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00:00 A word to the wise. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Action! Sunday December 3rd 2017 this is your award winning Game On Nation media assassination episode 9 or 8 7 This is no agenda Welcome to the world of Windows and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas. Capital of the drone star state here in Laclubia. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where the Zephyr has gone by without carrying anything The sun is out everything's fine. I'm John C. Gordon It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Everything's kind of fine, but yeah. Yes, because we should tell everyone what you're doing yes What I'm doing? I've switched to Windows the whole show is running on windows as of today and that means that You can expect To experience the unexpected and may you or might I ask is why you made this switch oh

00:59 Well, I've been thinking about this for a long time. I watched Apple successfully alienate the video professional video industry I see the weirdness going on with upgrades particularly when it pertains to USB They've really they don't care. You know there was an USB problem about a year ago, and they left that problem going for you know six months Fester is the word you're looking at Esther nice yes fester And I don't trust them Anna and honestly I became quite enamored with the you know The Windows product of windows 10 that I'd like to surface machines although. I'm not on a service machine

01:42 I'm kind of enamored by it all and i think that there you know maybe It's a cycle time for them to cycle up now. I would have done this on Linux if linux had any Kind of tools for got nothing for podcast production and sure please don't send me the links To the open source mixer when I already went through this with all The guys trying because I wanted to put us really small Linux box to run Skype yeah, so I don't need their other stuff that you have And Skype doesn't work on Linux. It works, doesn't it? Barely! So anyway, they're all you can try this and use this news. Oh you got get the wrong linux You should use instead of that Linux use this Linux is really made for multimedia I loaded that it died wouldn't even load that Linux. I mean its ridiculous Know exactly what you mean now? Hey man Jack piloted works great for audio no No, doesn't Really well here's what usually got me there was his advertisement on The TV and it showed some little girl

02:47 with her iPad and a keyboard on the iPad, and she's doing all her homework. She's doing all this stuff at the very end of the commercial. The mom says something like can you go do something about our computers? And she said Can you do something with the computer I don't remember what the did you do that all on your computer in the kid is working on an iPad. And I must say If you haven't seen the commercial, it's really good because the positioning is so well done. My favorite part actually is the kids ordering like I think maybe he ordered an ice cream cone or something and- That was a little girl. Could be, who knows these days?

03:27 And and he or she you know clunking clunking slams on the iPad which immediately says to any parent Oh the things indestructible Fantastic my moron kid won't break it immediately and then the kids lying in the grass typing on the keyboard of the iPad I think is iPad Pro, and mom says hey You've been working. Did you do that all your computer? And the kid goes what's a computer oh And we talked about this yesterday briefly when we were testing and you know, that hadn't even hit me like that. Like there's proof they're giving up entirely the Mac OS it's gone right? Yes because at the end of this commercial they said iOS yeah

04:10 They actually had the iOS, and we know that they wanted to move the iOS to the Mac where they were trying to which was just would have been a joke as far as I'm concerned. And uh...they kind of gave up on that and I think they're gonna bail! I think there's no- They got bookkeepers there that can look at these numbers and say The amount of resources we put into maintaining this Macintosh in a world of changing everything is not worth the trouble We can make more margin just with phones and everyone loves the iPad. I don't know, I think it's a mistake." Yeah and for me migrating to Windows... And i've actually been using just pure Windows all week And if anything goes wrong I'd switch right back to the Mac The setup is good to go So you know if we don't like it we can always go back But man everything so much faster! Just the filing... Although Windows has its little problems Oh my god

05:06 File Explorer. Oh, wait a minute it's busy How long do you have to look into a directory to tell me what files are in there? What are you busy doing but anyway It's I haven't seen that message for years. I don't know what Well there you go case in point You know those like all kinds of little quirks and little things that just pop up on windows. I mean I Was almost quirky that was almost disastrous sorry It was a quirky. It's quirky yeah, there's some quirks in it for sure but they're not as bad as it used to be I think Windows 10 is usable very usable Yeah And and hey that kind of works the way my mind thinks about where my files are and where I want stuff and In the Mac is you know? It's kind of its tricky how the Mac obfuscates that but they do it They can't really obfuscate The filing system which is the whole point of uh iOS I think

06:01 Yeah, you don't know where anything is. Yeah, yes to be photos have to be in photos Why would you want to put your photos any place other than photo? Well now I gotta tell ya and I hate to do a tech segment here but windows ahead But I am I have a little folder And I'm dropping all the files in for today's show and I have a JPEG I dropped that in immediately the folder goes like Wait it where's my date modified sort oh No, it had automatically decided it would optimize that folder for pictures. So F you Microsoft! Oh yeah well now this is a real issue I mean thats stupid Yes, I agree. In fact they have had the same problem with you can go to view Yeah, yeah You can change it but I don't want it to change automatically no It does it just decides that whoa there's your photo so they what this guy obviously wants is he wants this information When it's not necessary true. I have the same problem with the clips. I have this pile of clips and It doesn't get it doesn't all it says oh There's all music as all this guy cares about his music because at all every three miles

07:06 So I don't get the length. I have to actually go in there and hand pick view length so when I get my list of clips, I have the lengths so I can go as a short clip is a long clip kind of regulate my clippage. Well here's the cool thing about our setup now and I found this program which is...I think it's really going to work well for us we'll find out because you know the workflows are untested as if yet but it does have a SQL database built-in So all of our clips are all categorized and even you know I can change that. I can tag things easily, and it should be easy to find things in fact just going through just migrating all this stuff I found some amazing stuff. I didn't-I don't even remember... I remember we had it But yeah, I'm doing this off a Motu interface Mark Of The Unicorn which is only five six hundred bucks It's getting affordable

08:03 What is it? I don't even know what you're talking about. Well, there's hardware! You can't do this kind of stuff in software you have to do it in hardware so we've got a Mark Of The Unicorn audio device and it provides digital signal processing for EQ for compression and for gate which is really all you need once you have those things in hardware but that box is new it's like five six hundred bucks that's all And then you used everything through the universal audio controller, right? But I Wanted to use that but it only the only you have to use Thunderbolt So you have to get a remember the whole thing that PCI Express card to USB see oh yeah Don't go dongle to a thunderbolts. You switched over you switched over your hardware Yeah, when I went big time and that universal audio by the time you get the plugins That's 1500s. No 1700 bucks

08:59 So, you know this is... So you're on board with Mark of the Unicorn? Well so far. Last night we had all sudden the- You got little uh All kinds of bits and bytes and started to sound like crap so if that happens I won't be so on board but we'll have to figure it out Alright, well let's get started by doing everything back ass word and I'd like this play the Joe joy Bayhard goes nuts You know what you have an ISO and give the Well yeah, I do have the ISO but that's for later. Yeah Okay obviously I had this clip too Do we want to set it up because I there? I believe the boy has a little bit while the producer running on to the set is

09:40 Right as they're coming back from the commercial break is an obvious scripted setup moment. Oh, yeah Cuz she can't act and it's pretty obvious nor could that guy for that matter Okay, let me set it up now This is regarding and we do have more clips about this as Brian Ross at ABC produced a false report for which he was Now do you have I could not? Find the report. I have the second one because the first one was pulled and it only showed up on the East Coast in time to sink the stock market. Dude, it was crazy! I saw this happening and I was listening to CNBC

10:20 And there they were pumping it. Oh, that's the end the Trump trade is over Trump odds all it's all gonna fall down now we're all gonna die yeah well They're in a little help well before we play both Bayer then let's catch catch this up Play the Brian it says Ryan Ross suspended KTVU local clip under our oh Ryan I'm sorry I got it okay ABC News apologized today for a serious error and suspended reporter Brian Ross for a month without pay for an erroneous report on retired General Michael Flynn. Ross had delivered what was billed as an exclusive report about Flynn, the reports that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Mr. Trump was still a candidate The report set off calls for the president's impeachment and sent the Dow into freefall

11:17 But later in the day, ABC issued a clarification saying President Trump's directive came during the transition after he'd been elected president which is a key distinction. Ross appeared on World News Tonight to correct the report. Now I wish and this is the problem with Google because you know you even did a minus sign suspend so that should omit those Anything that has suspension in the content would not show up in search results. You cannot find the original video, it's done, its gone! Yeah I know... What you can come up with is this report, this is Brian Ross second

12:00 This was the one that he did as the mea culpa and the way they describe it in the other report is, oh you know no. They just kind of ran through this as though it was the original report yeah and then I only have a clip at the end because this thing's actually the original report with his little bit taken out and then him put back in telling correctly and you can play this and it's kind of, you know... You show us kinda wishy-washy. Two weeks later Flynn was fired and Comey says the president later asked him to go easy on the general I understood him to be saying that what he wanted me do is drop any investigation connected to Flynn's account of his conversations with the Russians Even after Flynn was gone The President still praised him General Flynn is a wonderful man I think its really sad thing that he was treated so badly

12:49 And David, a clarification tonight on something one of Flynn's confidants told us and we reported earlier today. He said the president had asked Flynn to contact Russia during the campaign. He is now clarifying that saying according to Flynn candidate Trump asked him during the campaign to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hotspots And then after the election, the president-elect asked him to contact Russia on issues including working together to fight ISIS. Before and after and in the meantime Brian we do have a statement from Michael Flynn tonight he said I accept full responsibility for my actions that's right and Flynn's confidant says Flynn is extremely angry at the White House tonight that he was going broke

13:26 with crippling legal fees and made this deal for his family. His son, Michael Jr., had also been under investigation but he was not charged today David. Alright Brian Ross leading us off tonight Brian thank you. You know the whole financial angle which is not really being discussed that was odd Why was it all I don't know what just it felt off to me. Oh, no like I mean how does this market is panicky? They and they see Trump as the no no No, I'm sorry not about that What was odd was about Flynn that he you know if a million dollars in legal bills did he tell them yeah? I mean is that what Flynn said I don't know. I think some of that, well Brian Ross has been condemned a couple of times by media on the media that PBS show where they looked into some of his reporting and he's not really that good. I mean Jeff Pagay is the guy who

14:17 That guy, I think is really good and he never makes these sorts of mistakes. This was just a huge blunder that didn't make any sense if you looked at the timeline But the mistake must have come from sources Yeah yeah somebody told him this And he didn't check it out All they had to do was look at the timeline Because the timeline itself It's all about when Obama put in those sketchy sanctions in December, which is after the election. Which means it would be okay after the election and then they kick those guys out of that Maryland house and those houses and into San Francisco place to kick the Russians out so they can rewire the bugs. They haven't let them back in yet but they will.

15:04 And because I think was it illegal what they did but so let's I have the good report on Flynn on CBS which Jeff Pegues is Doing part of course he's a winning pooper and he's got like, but before we do that Let's play the joy Behar and talk about a biased horrible person. This is that sketch that they did Because they thought to Brian Ross report was accurate Like she won the Academy Award.

16:05 It's unbelievable. I mean that is... I mean, that clip is going around so everyone probably saw it by now but.. I mean yeah first of all its so poorly acted on both the production assistants part or the producer whoever that was floor producer floor director and then her oh breaking news! Oh! I'm shocked and then you kind need a video to go with it because just see their face ahhh everyone is so happy Oh, yeah. No, it's well accepted that two Republicans are the one Republican that's there... But before we go any further, so let me just try and understand it. So what we now know according to still sources even though the second report was a correction of the first report is still from sources I don't think it's from any official anything? Is it? I think there's some official statements sure.

16:56 Nobody's disputing what's going on. Right, but the request was please go talk to everybody on the UN Security Council and talk to the Russians and talk with everybody and let's make sure that we know what we're doing. We listened to the Flynn report of CBS1 and they actually explained what this is really all about and you have to ask yourself... it stops after a while You have to ask yourself, why was this considered anything other than business as usual? and agreed to cooperate with Robert Mueller. Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the U.S election, whether anyone in the Trump campaign was involved and any other crimes he may find along the way including obstruction of justice Flynn, the president's first national security adviser... Hold on hold on so he's already supposing that those are crimes? Is there any other crime that he may have found? What crime is there?!

18:03 Yeah, good catcher anyone in the Trump campaign was involved. Well no stop stop No the crime was lying to the FBI Okay, which I think it's kind of funny how? All the right-wing media are say oh that's the Martha Stewart punishment Yeah, that's like Stuart got and so did his Papa this Papadopoulos got this other guy. This is outlier That's also busted for lying to the FBI supposed to be cooperating really wasn't part of anything I looked at his indictment and he's lie was like missing the dates Really? Yeah, you should look at it It's just like what well, I mean I said it was on July 3rd But it was July 4th as a Lenny's so we lied. I have a let me see if I have it here

18:52 I do have a piece of the document about Flynn, and...I can paraphrase it but I want to see if I can find it. In essence the crime he committed is punishable by zero to six months in jail and or $4999-$9999 And typically, there's never jail sentence served or even the fine levied. But that's exactly what Martha Stewart got – she got the full Monty. She got the fine and she got the six months. Yeah. So... Yeah, she's a hazard to public I guess. Anyway let's listen to the rest of this and you see what this is really about is kind of it's very interesting that they don't…

19:43 Yeah, sorry. Play. There are crimes he may find along the way including obstruction of justice Flynn the president's first national security advisor was an advisor to the campaign He could serve as a guide as investigators look into the Trump team's contacts with Russia before and after the election Jeff Pagais begins our coverage Michael Flynn arrived at the courthouse this morning to plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI. Once inside, a federal judge asked him if he was doing so willingly and voluntarily The 58-year old former lieutenant general answered with a simple yes sir

20:22 According to court papers, Flynn lied to FBI agents about the details of two phone calls he had with then Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak during the presidential transition. CBS News has learned Flynn was directed to make the first call by President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner described in court papers as a very senior member of the transition team You know, he is in rare form today our Jeff Begaises He really is in an upper regions needing to go Directed to make the first call by President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner described in court papers as a very senior member of the transition team. On December 22nd 2016 Flynn called Kislyak to urge Russia to delay or defeat a United Nations resolution concerning Israeli settlements. A week later Flynn spoke to Kislyak again this time about new sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on Russia

21:20 He relayed to the ambassador that the Trump team did not want Russia to escalate the situation. Flynn made that call after consulting with someone court papers identify as a senior transition official CBS News has learned, That was Flynn's deputy KT McFarland After the second Kislyak call Russian President Vladimir Putin announced he would no retaliate for US sanctions and president-elect Trump tweeted Putin was very smart Now, a couple of things. This is the only report that mentions KT McFarland who we know as former security advisor to Bush I believe and she looks like a spook and so I don't know what the connection is there with her in this whole fiasco but the fiasco part of it is what the conversations were about? It was just trying to get business started on one was on Israeli settlements

22:20 And the other one was on emptying out these houses and kicking the Russians out of the country, and telling Putin not to overreact to it. So what was... But more importantly why does CNN and MSNBC and all of ABC and everybody, everybody, why do they think that because There's this information that that it means anything are they it sounds really delusional Yes, and I hate when I have to say that because like come on these are intelligent people well Behar excluded but they're intelligent people how can they think this? How can they not just listen to the evidence or the... It's not even evidence. The bullshit They're spewing and think that there is something happening. I'm baffled by it

23:15 Dimension B. I'm baffled by a couple of things, i'm also baffled by there's no reason for Flynn to have to lie about this stuff because it wasn't anything meaningful It was just the conversation about Israel and settlements Maybe he had something else going on Well he does have something else going on trying to kidnap Gulan and some other bullcrap But maybe he has Alzheimer's we don't know I mean, he maybe forgot the conversations and he should have known they were being recorded. Because everything Kislyak does in this country or anywhere else is being recorded. So the whole thing is making it less and less sense to me. Well, I was going to say unless you know… It's like one of those, you know, he lied but it was about a date or something that's just being blown all out of proportion

24:08 Yeah, well it's wish I think there's a delusion. I think is wishful thinking I think you could tell the pent-up Wishful thinking when Bayhar went nuts I have to ISO play ISO OMG Bayhar Oh my god There you go That totally oh my god. Oh my god Anyway, so let's go to clip two of this report. What does Flynn's cooperation signal about the direction of this investigation? Signals it is going forward and it's moving and advancing very quickly. Peter Zydenberg is a former federal prosecutor If anyone was gonna be interacting with the Russians or would know about it, it would be Flynn

24:52 So if you can get him to talk, it would be worth giving him a great deal. Court papers say Flynn could get up to six months behind bars but he was under scrutiny for other alleged crimes including failing to disclose payments from Russian-backed companies and trying to orchestrate the kidnapping of a Turkish cleric in exchange for 15 million dollars Anthony Jeff Begay's thanks Jeff Now I'm thinking this And, you know, there's this crocodile tears about a lot of this. About oh I'm gonna go broke and have to cooperate if nothing actually happened which we believe to be true in terms of collusion Yeah Wouldn't this be a great opportunity for Flint to turn himself in plead guilty and do a deal that gets him off the hook for all The other weird crap that he was doing what would he have to give up for said deal?

25:46 He just has to answer every question that has anything to do with anything on the lie detector. I mean, he's cooperating! Yeah you know, whatever that means. Let's go to the last clip and we'll get a little wrap up here. Let's go now to our chief White House correspondent Major Garrett. Major this is the first time current and former White House officials have been implicated in the investigation what's the significance of that? Well it reveals high-level status of talks with the Trump transition and Russia and suggests or certainly points to and an easy level of engagement with a rival nation already suspected at that time, and confirmed by some US officials, of meddling in the 2016 elections still.

26:30 These revelations today do not necessarily suggest that either Jared Kushner or KT McFarlane committed a crime. The two issues involved, criticizing Israeli settlements and Russian reaction to new sanctions would be relevant to any incoming administration and engaging the Russians is something a presidential transition team might reasonably try to accomplish but In the context of so many transition and White House denials about dealings with Russia, today's court revelations strongly contradict at least some of those denials putting them in a sharply different context. So what is the White House saying about today's developments Major?

27:10 Well, the president was notified this morning and he considered it a sad event for sure for General Flynn and a serious crime for three-star general retired to admit to. But the president still believes nothing that was revealed today threatens either him or his administration in those close to the president tell us that he was neither angry nor frustrated by this particular development of the special counsel's investigation and reassured that nothing that Flynn pled guilty to touched his campaign, and the actions that Flynn did plead guilty to dealt with him and him alone. And by the way, that contradicts the Brian Ross report where everyone is freaked out! Right. Of course Ross is sidelined now for a month

27:56 The thing that's really taking place is, you know stuff that we track on a more singular item level. It's very apparent when reading the face bag it's like this is the proof? The proof is here Mueller is going to make it happen these guys are all effed and the details no longer matter and this will go down in history I mean, as just false facts. It's like the you know like what Trump said yeah You're famous you can grab him by the pussy no not what it is now is admitted Sex offender you know it's that kind of it's really a psychological operation well if the interesting thing is they when I first found the Bayhar clip

28:46 It was on Twitter and some guy had pointed out how this, this and this alone is a false news. It's fake news but everybody... But you would start to see it crop up as fact! Yes All over the place. They said, well Dave he's done now and wait a minute it was already been disproven the guy who did the report has been suspended this is a major deal by the way you're not one of these guys that works on the network as an investigative reporter one of the top guys top men and you get suspended for a month without pay? Yeah, and let's talk about that for a second because you know from a from a journo perspective what are the levels of Discipline that you can get and where does this particular discipline disciplinary measure? Where does it fit in on that scale well you can get fired Why didn't he get fired

29:38 Oh, because they like him. I think he presents himself well and is very authoritative. He's good but he's loose with the facts and he's done this before and I don't think that he would have even gotten a suspension if he hadn't been caught doing stuff like this in the past So, one month without pay is a lot of money for a guy like that. For anybody! But he... I don't know what he makes but it's not underpayment. Right? Is that typical if someone at the New York Times- I've never seen it. That's my point. Most of time its just reprimand and nasty note in your file. I've never seen a guy suspended for a month. I mean thats probably just under getting fired. Yeah

30:18 And I wonder why that? Why not fire, why you're right. They like him and of course it still launched kind of a fake story that will go down in history as the story Yeah yeah and Bayhar didn't help she just passed on fake news i have one last report this is Pierre Thomas he's on ABCs kind of the Jeff Begay's be somewhere between Pegues and uh what was his name Stegopolis. No, the guy who just got fired or didn't get fired. Charlie Rose? No! The guy we're talking about Brian Ross. Oh, Brian Ross okay he didn't get fired He's in between the two guys a little bit and I think he's credible That one count of lying to the FBI Robert Mueller is seasoned prosecutor here Is he trying to show as little of his hand as possible

31:08 David, make no mistake Mueller approved this deal to get something. He's an aggressive KZ prosecutor who has been targeting the Trump campaign, the transition and potentially the White House inner circle. Flynn now faces hours of FBI interrogations in the coming months subject to lie detector tests along the way to prove he is telling the truth. Mueller wants to know did Trump campaign officials and White House advisors know about any contacts with the Russians that could impact the election? Those transition advisors mentioned in today's charges face the possibility of being called before a grand jury and if they've already been interviewed They better have told the truth Peter Thomas with us tonight as well Scary. Well, hey It's just not ending anytime soon is gonna be in the background for the next six months at least But you know the journos are on notice now Hey You got to be careful gotta be careful with your sources

32:04 Because you know, Brian Ross I'm sure is doing okay. Even even with the month's pay docked but you don't want to be lower on any totem pole and have that happen to you. Yeah. I love Comey's reaction now we have the fired FBI director James Comey tweeting so let me just share this with everyone here's the quote but justice Rolled down like waters and righteousness, like an ever-flowing stream. If you actually look at his Instagram it's this whole picture of a stream and rocks Amos 524 What kind of guy does that? Nutball I mean It doesn't seem to fit with his character You know what i mean Yeah maybe he is religious guy I don't know I just found him very peculiar

32:54 Karen do you? Hammered yeah, here's a brook in the CNN Panel trying to figure it out come he doesn't tweet much But when he does he likes to quote important weighty things I think this is him kind of sitting back and having his moment of thinking ha I said so I knew what I wasn't Ronnie look the guy got pushed out Of his job wait II thinks. This is the guy that says Lordi Yes, very weighty. Lordy lordy! I was going to find that for you. Important weighty things...I think this is him kind of sitting back and having his moment of thinking, huh? I said so, I knew it, I wasn't wrong. Look the guy got pushed out of his job by the president and it was connected to people that are involved in the events of today

33:36 And so he's clearly watching all this, he clearly has thoughts and feelings about that. He is expressing it all in a tweet that is using somebody else's words which if you look through his Twitter profile its how he tweets when very seldom tweets. So thats just kind of the... Good work! Good investigative work! You looked through his Twitter profile The narrator voice off to the side really of James Comey remarking on this whole proceeding and certainly it's still, he is firing is what touched off much of this right? I mean you can't take that out of the equation. Had the president not gotten rid of Comey there never would have been a special counsel. The special counsel would then never be looking at Michael Flynn and the very senior members of the Trump transition team that

34:18 apparently was speaking with when it came to doing what he now admits he lied about the FBI so do you hear that she's building this story and just you lie FBI blah blah blah and it just all sounds like they're all going to jail. It's just exactly what that defense attorney said I was defending the convicted illegal immigrant Who killed that girl? He says, hey you know these guys got to shut up because they're under investigation themselves. What do they know? Jeez! That's weird. That's not really a legal perspective It's very weird. I actually have a clip here this little like quite off topic but

35:06 I'll bring it up later, but this is a very funny lawyer clip here that's got to do with another story. So I'll just remind you when I play it out. All right. You mentioned all right? I do have one little sanctions issue ABC wrong info question that we can play to get this out of the way sanctions issue. So what is it about this conversation that's a problem? Part of it is the timing. President Obama had just issued sanctions against the Russians for meddling in the election, then you have Flynn effectively calling the Russians and saying please don't retaliate and then you have President Trump saying oh it's great that president Putin didn't retaliate

36:05 Yeah. That's really... I gotta tell you, the face bag has never been so entertaining and now we have this tax bill? Now did they- did the Senate pass a version of it last night is that what happened? Oh yeah! It got passed at the last minute very late. You were probably in bed when it happened. I think was like 4 in the morning or something. Yes, I'm sure I was in bed Yeah, I got past 51 to 48 or 49. Okay so on the edge there as expected? Well it's always going to be on the edge. Democrats aren't gonna refuse...I have a tax bill clip! Yeah because then i want to read something from Facebag

36:43 Okay, great. But let's play the tax bill clip we'll catch up this is not a there's not a great this is not a Great and or long synopsis It's just a little that little tidbits that that I picked up they thought were funny initially get a tax break averaging $2200 but only until 2025 Millions of Americans must be watching in stunned disbelief tonight Democratic senators without enough votes to stop the bill could only protest They're sending around their edits as we speak. Can you tell me what that word is? Retiring Tennessee Senator Bob Corker, the lone Republican holdout was frustrated the bill added over a trillion dollars to the deficit over the next decade and it just came down to sort of

37:31 bump up between fiscal issues and my concern about the long-term debt. The Senate's bill now heads into conference where Republicans will work to reconcile it with the House version, ironing out key differences Now President Trump wants congressional Republicans to get him a final tax bill to sign before Christmas. This is in addition to other pending deadlines. Republicans are also preparing a two-week spending bill to avoid a government shutdown before federal funding runs out this upcoming Friday. Reena? Errol Barnett from the White House, thank you Errol

38:08 Now, a couple of things. A couple of things. Please. One is the Democrats are making a huge fuss over well you know they're going to have a tax break for the middle class but it ends in 2025 they're gonna be screwed now 2025 is a long ways away I think to get a nice tax break for you know eight years... Is it a sunset clause? Is that the idea? Yeah something like this as this tax break ends and then go back your old taxes I'm assuming if doesn't go up Oh, come on. We know one thing for sure taxes always go up! Yeah I know but it's not intended as a trick to go up right the other one is this Wyden the guy with that screwball voice from Oregon who says he says the Republican electorate must be in stunned disbelief

38:59 I don't think the electorate is paying playing World of Warcraft. What are you talking about? Give a crap. And another one, this guy says can you read this and he points it out a little bit said there's a bunch of scribbling on half of these bills they're trying to yeah they did mark up in red line that was a big complaint i read about and so I'm looking at it says aforementioned or acknowledgement or something...I saw the word I don't remember specifically what it said, but when I saw it as I could read it. So this bullcrap right now Now I'd like to follow this stuff and you know It's very hard to even get a hold of the right publication and this was too long for me to get anything You know The problem with these types of this type of legislation. I liked I like to read this. I really do. It's a hobby I love it

39:47 is it's they refer to the current law in almost everything. It's a change and then it's like okay so insert this word and change that word for this word over in that document, you know that's almost impossible to parse In fact there would be great project for someone put together so you know it will all be hyperlinked how about that for concept? Huh! Duh just a thought The concept behind the tax bill I understand, but I just have no idea what's in there now. And just on the surface of it, I'm not thinking it's going to be all that great. What do you think? I would agree they're never great unless they go to some radical change like a flat tax or reverse income tax or something really radical

40:37 It's just going to be a bunch of patchwork crap. Right And it's gonna benefit a few people that you won't find out about until after the thing is passed Well, that's a really bad one. Sorry didn't realize that was the one anyway Let's get an opinion on what's going on regarding the tax bill from one of my face bag friends This is a local Austin woman used to live in California She is in her early 60s

41:16 Code phrases states rights equals right to own slaves small government equals deregulation of industry and removal of consumer protections geopet tax plan equals majority of citizens subsidizing increases that subjugate us to the greed of the 1% and the psych offense in Congress make America great again equals If you voted for me, you're a self-defeating fool. A white nationalist or greedy SOB! I don't really care...I made my money bankrupting small businesses and manipulating the tax code It'll be a cold day in Mar-a-Lago before i show you my returns it's all return to our murderous roots Give the American Indians back their country We've undone any good that may have emerged from our original sins of creation and are wallowing in shit

42:07 Turning away immigrants when virtually every one of us has immigrant roots Denying health care education liberty and most definitely the pursuit of happiness I am disgusted that we cannot muster the national cohesion to recognize The devil is now in power and the devil must be banished, and the devils minions too. She's Jewish by the way How these people get religion or all of a sudden? I don't know but Well, that's a person that is about to have a nervous breakdown. What? I think you know... A lot of people are on the verge! You can tell the smallest thing triggers people these days Yeah Just the smallest things. Oh well Well i want to hear more of these Facebook notes. I keep telling you this Yeah well..I just brought one This where you say thank you May I have more Yes Thank you may I have more Alright Let me see while we're in the A block

43:15 I think we're kind of done with the Brian Ross and Russia story for now. It's a show day, who knows what will be coming? Who knows? A little follow-up... I think we may have discussed this but now it finally went through. EU diplomats are back extending the use of the weed killer glyphosate, a new five-year license will enter into force after the current one expires on December 15th We're so disappointed! We see that those who are supposed to protect our environment and to protect our health are failing to do their job

43:51 They're basically not doing what they are supposed to do. They are betraying the trust that Europeans place in them and they leave us with another five years of glyphosate which contaminates our environment, contaminates our bodies is in our food it's hard to avoid." One study said glyphosate was probably carcinogenic But others have found that it's safe. We are talking about... Hold on, I need to talk to our resident chemical expert Dr. Dvorak Glyphosate! Safe or not safe? We need a jingle for that. For people out there who don't know what we're talking about this is Monsanto Roundup

44:31 Well, I don't know if it's safe or not safe. There is a lot of evidence...I think there is more evidence that its very unsafe than there was any evidence that its safe. Our bodies are in our food and it's hard to avoid One study said glyphosate was probably carcinogenic but others have found that it's safe We're talking about very widely used chemical substance that is considered safe We use it in a very responsible manner in Europe. We are by law trained and our sprayers are tested quite frequently, and we're quite disappointed that all this work, especially with the assessment of EFSA and ECHA European institutions, and now in this case European Member States representatives went for decisions that certainly don't follow that consistency

45:18 The Gleichverseid decision created some considerable collateral damage within Germany's caretaker government. Instead of abstaining, as Berlin did before, the German representative on the council voted yes following an order by the conservative agriculture minister and ignoring the expressed wish of the environment minister, a social democrat. Result? The social democrats were livid! Here's the tricky thing, though. Merkel's conservatives are desperately courting the Social Democrats to form a new grand coalition But SPD leaders are now decrying a breach of trust. Merkel, who was in Africa this week, reprimanded her conservative cabinet colleague stopping short of firing him – a face-saving measure that won't make negotiations with the Social Democrats easier. Now I left that bit on the clip because it shows there's a political issue with this in Germany. Yeah, I'm glad you did!

46:14 I think we are able to identify a media distraction in its very infancy, so infant in fact that I don't have a clip. But Germany has launched another issue... now remember this was glyphosate. Is that glyphosate? Yeah, yeah I think so. Glyphosate Now, they... so from Germany comes now the threat. Only the threat but it's getting big headlines everywhere starting in the UK comes the threat that the EU Parliament Health Committee which Germany has a large hand in is going to object to allow the use of phosphate additives in such important meals as frozen kebab meat

47:03 And this is creating outrage. We've got glyphosate, we've got phosphate so people are going to forget the Monsanto news because shut up already it's science and I think this is what's going to grab the headlines Well there's phosphate in kebabs Turkish kebabs to be specific It caught me off guard cause I don't know what they're talking about I have no clips, i didn't even look into it that much because what are they doing? Is it in the seasoning? I mean, what are we talking about here? Yes. Phosphate additives are used in many foods to enhance flavor and moisture not only frozen meats used often in kebabs but also cheese brand cereals and other baked goods However a 2012 study found that phosphate is linked to heart disease prompting some members of European Parliament to act including Christel Schadelmaus of Denmark! Is that like MSG?! I have no idea...I've never heard of this

48:07 I mean, I know about phosphoric acid being used in soda but that's about it. I don't know anything about these phosphates." Well you need to know about it because this is good drugs! I feel like I'm completely... It's my beat and I don't what the hells going on? Yeah well this is also used of course in shawarma which is my favorite meal whenever I am in Amsterdam and I guess its gonna ruin it? This is disgusting meal if you keep discussing it You don't like Shawarma? Isn't it chopped kale and mashed potatoes? No, no. No, no shawarma is it's like a It's like kebab in a pita but has a special Garlic sauce and a little bit of lettuce and a little tomato so it's like a hand roll No, it's they or they slice the pita bread open at the top then stuff and then stuff in Lettuce tomato and then kebab meat

49:02 Yeah, yeah they sell those in New York City. Yes! No they sell them in Austin. They sell them everywhere. I've had that it's delicious So well they're not gonna be so delicious once you take the phosphate out...I guess? I don't know that Well, let's do some research. I think we should. OK, let's go phosphates in food. I'll start there because it sounds like what I liked about MSG, which is mono pseudo flagellate flights, monosodium glutamate. What I liked about MSG is that what it really did is

49:41 It made you think the food was tastier. Now that's a groovy ingredient! Well actually what it gives, it gives... I thought it affected your taste buds or your brain or something? It does an umami thing Umami? Yeah, umami is the... gives it a... Umami is like this eighth sense. It's like something you can't actually taste. It's just something that you sense and umami is in mushrooms and MSG so... I think we have the umami of podcasting! Alright. I'm looking at phosphase in food additives

50:26 Let's see what we got. What foods are high in phosphate? Phosphate additives and food, a health risk according to the National something or other NIH included. Let's see what it is. Is it sodium phosphate? Live strong says...phosphate and food are health risks blah blah blah hyper blah blah has been identified in the past decade. At least mumble into I'm not still getting this. You apparently get chronic kidney disease from some sort of phosphates. That sounds like a day wrecker? Yeah, let's try this. Food additives. What is sodium phosphate? This must be all about sodium phosphate because this is the Livestrong website. Okay any sodium salt or phosphoric acid they're commonly used

51:23 Added to food and may serve a variety of purposes. Sodium phosphates have been well studied and are generally considered safe when used as a food additive." And this kind of contradicts the other thing, sodium phosphate may refer you any three specific... Okay what is it supposed to do to ya? All right I'll get us started now. I'll work this out figure out what the hell's going on. It's emulsifier, a leavening agent, a surface active agent, a neutralizing agent, nutrient. Nice! I don't know what they're using it with the kebabs for. Kebab is just a... Well, maybe it's not even that important. Maybe it's just again, I introduced the story as a possible distraction from the Monsanto because Monsanto doesn't want this attention. They don't want that. No they don't and everyone hates the Turks and this dude specifically talking about Turkish kebabs! So right. Yeah yeah but the thing

52:23 I don't know. Wait a minute, hold on! Wasn't this German kebabs? Yeah but while they're still in... This is an EU thing. While they're still in the EU they'll have to adhere to it so maybe it's interesting. It could be a let's really Brexit or it could be hey you know let's just mess with those guys before we get rid of them. Nah that's always a possibility. I wish they'd have more things to do at their time than something like that You mean and destroy a good five minutes of Noah's in the show content? No, no. I don't think you're on the right track so I run into this Turk is a mechanic and Mechanical Turk and he's from And I think it's him He's not from Istanbul but he's from somewhere in Turkey and he starts telling I've been asking him questions obviously like you do with the cab drivers Right, and he says gulan is the best thing that's ever happened to turkey really? Oh

53:19 Not, I'm sorry. What am I thinking? Not Gulan but Erdogan. Yeah not Gulan. Erdogan let me get this straight. Erdogan's the best he says before Erdogan If you went to a hospital, you'd wait for eight hours. Everything was falling apart. The infrastructure was crap." He says the whole country was falling apart it was a mess and he says especially the medical system which was just down the toilet. He says ever since Gulen or I keep wanting to say Gulen but Erdogan got in, he's straightened that out. Actually, he is like a dictator obviously but he is straightening out the country. He says the place is very livable now. It's fantastic!

53:56 And he goes on and on and on, singing this praise. He said without Erdogan we'd be screwed! It would be a mess!" Then they went onto condemn Gulen who should be shot according to him. Did you ask him why wasn't back living in Turkey? He likes it here. Gee... no surprise And with that- He's got relatives, he goes there all the time. He's got relatives there and it just says is like night and day. He says pre Eritrean I, the place was hellish. Now it's like... All the new hospitals, he's built hospitals all over the place. He's put new infrastructure in. The places been modernized. Oh! You can go, you named about 10 little cities to check these cities out before and after. They're old crappy ol' dirt roads now they are fancy and new

54:43 He says the people love him. Well, I think this is not the story we're getting no This is definitely not just not the story I'm getting from the uber drivers But maybe it's different from the cab know this wasn't a cab who was this guy? No, there's mechanic mechanic auto mechanic Yeah, the mechanical Turk right hmm well keep talking and I think there's something I think he's I mean he just may be a maven you know fanatic but It seems to me that he was, because I checked a few of these things out and there is a modernization process going on. Right Which is one of the things that caused that you know... He was gonna push this But I thought they went completely secularism has gone Yeah it seems to be yeah That's kind of the..I think thats mostly propaganda Well we need to get some Turkish experts

55:35 Do we have listeners in Turkey? I don't think we have any. Maybe some guy passed through once, I don't think so. Well, we're looking at you boots on the ground in Turkey. We need some help here to be able to deconstruct this because that's very...I mean, Turkey is such an important country when it comes to the pipelines for energy- Everything. Yeah, the immigrants and migrants. I don't believe anything the media tells us. This is true. The whole thing could be right. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. where the C stands for chemist. Dvorak! Well thanks for jumping the gun on that. In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air

56:20 Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and in the morning to The Troll Room, noagendastream.com thank you for being here as always and participating in the program it's highly appreciated! And in the morning to Illuminadia she brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 8-6 of the title that was Fruit Machine and it was a very nice original piece of work It was like a drawing on animal hide You know, like you'd see from as an archaeological discovery. Right. Archaeological. Yeah some archaeologists that come up with it and also just on the topic of fruit machine before we launch into thanking some of our producers executive and associate executive producers after the show We started looking around at this This fruit machine yeah, you found it yes And uh... So this is the gaydar that now you know what forget it I even have a clip What am I doing here? Well do it after the this is tease

57:16 We got great stuff about the fruit machine. So Illuminati, thank you very much we appreciate that. Noahjenderartgenerator.com is where you can go and upload all of your clips and they're used for newsletters for pre-show boosts and tweet retweets yeah they're also used by noagendashop.com and you can make money off of that if your T-shirts are sell so it's a good deal and we really appreciate it and Thank You! Noajenderartgenerator.com It worked out Okay, so we start off with the Baron Mark Workman the Gulch Gulch get Baron of Galt's gulch and he sent in a check with no note

57:55 for $543.21 from Dayton, Ohio and so I've got no jingles, no karma, no note. NJNKNN! Yeah, NJNKNN. NJNKNN, NJNKNN, got it. NJNKNN. Nice thank you. Want to do that again? One more time fast come on a go NJNKNN. I think you've got something there. Sir Tom McRod Adams came in with $333 and 33 cents from Sir Rod, he writes currently baron of the Blue Ridge request for a barony change from the Blue Ridge Mountains to Florida's Suncoast. Oh wow! No longer be able to oversee my former lands due to a relocation uh to be closer to our grand human resources gonna have

58:53 Two little girl yeas and some travel karma for our planned period of being homeless vagabonds between abodes. Wow, so that means the Blue Ridge Mountains are open! So in other words, he's yes. Which would mean there was plenty of takers to all that you know so now they were sees the kids moved to Florida to get rid of the you know get away from the parents and yeah and then the parents follow Oh No! Oh no! Good try kids I don't think so i'm gonna do that to my kid later too great a great idea hey we moved in next door hi

59:33 Yeah, you might as well. Sir Todd Cochran 333 from Knight Todd Cochran. Hey! Todd Cochran Mr. Blueberry Adam keep an eye out for the special delivery coming your way in a few weeks it's gonna blow your mind That said, send me your email or mailing address. 2017 has been an incredibly successful year for my company and personal podcast. I do not want to jinx it by not getting a donation to the best podcast in the universe. So kind! To all of you douchebags out there don't be a Grinch donate today! I just need some karma to close out this year and prepare for 2018 much aloha

1:00:15 Night Todd. No, thank you very much Todd that's highly appreciated man glad you got a good year. You've got karma Guy does and that he He should be I'm the pod father. He should be known as mr Podcasting. I mean that guy is doing he's done so much for the podcast community Truly do anything on this note? That's that priest sages the word lavender. I'm sorry Do you have anything on this next note from Sir Cal who came up with $333 from Northville, Michigan that says any wordage before the word lavender because that's the only thing that said at top of my thing I can't get past it. Okay well yeah I think i have a whole cell here. Well I see the website Lavender Blossoms

1:01:08 Let me read it. Yeah, read it. All right. Sir Cal 333 from Northville Michigan I used to be dude named Ben but three years ago I quit the cubicle life and started farming lavender and medicinal herbs Oh Now because like I got a delivery notification from some lavender blossoms. I'm like what did I order? Okay, I guess he said something. Okay. Comfrey Feverfew chamomile etc Nama farmer named Cal along with my wife Jeanette who was a nurse and cult follower drew we created some unique blends infused with these beautiful herbs and packages moisturizers sprays essential oils and CBD products a plethora of natural products for all kinds of medical conditions say no to big pharma

1:01:55 Would you be kind enough to help a farmer out by mentioning our website, www.lavenderblossoms.org and the coupon code ITM for a small token of appreciation for our NA clan? Speaking of NA thanks for decade of entertainment You have the magic to turn hours or pulling weeds or manually labeling thousands of products into pleasure Almost always with happy endings I've been a listener for five years nighted on show 666 and probably a triple night by now Eh who cares about it Just call me Sir Cal Jingle request time by your sexuality. Okay, you got to read those for me because I of course was reading And couldn't get it all set. Oh can we get to that jingle request tell me about your sexuality? Yeah Hillary chuckle do we have a chuckle we have a cackle I think Chuckle cackle same thing yeah, I gotta I gotta advertising yeah okay

1:02:50 I'm sorry, lost go tell me a small business goat karma. Yeah So he's got goats but he says they can't scream so that it's all he needs is the sexuality The car the chuckle and the goat karma tell me about in this sexuality It's in your DNA You've got I was gonna say you know who i met the other day at last week, I forgot to mention it Chad from colorado remember chad he's the emt He's the one that had the funniest note about the toilet paper roll when he was biking

1:03:33 We laughed our ass off about that. No, you don't remember Oh yeah He's the one that told us about the Narcan like he gives someone you know, he's an EMT so all right He's again talked about they gotta be hyped up on meth Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the narc is just knock the heroin down and he'd be a mess head and go nuts exactly So he was in Austin last weekend and Tina I went to see him and had a drink And he's doing well, says hi. Here is the kind of guy he is He's like yeah I'm just a little woozy Oh why is that? Well I did a bone marrow transplant for somebody So when was this? Two days ago What?! Apparently they had gone to the fire station You know the hospital and said hey where can we get some virile men who could be donors This was two years ago Everyone was like ah shit sign me up here's my DNA All of sudden you got a call from some guy in Korea

1:04:25 needed bone marrow. It's like a 12-hour process and... Yeah, well yeah it was supposed to be agonizing. Oh! And then literally just cycling blood through your system what a guy anyway so his dad is like a real blue collar worker you know worked at steel work all his life And so he was visiting them and this guy, he had like thrown his brother out of the house one time because he was smoking some weed. He's really anti all that. So they start talking about the dispensaries in Colorado and says... Because he has really bad arthritis and Chad says, well hey why don't we go get some CBD oil? See how it goes. The guy is like...

1:05:07 And apparently it was quite funny because he felt like it was all illegal, and even though its not he felt really weird inside the dispensary. He puts on his hands... Who? His dad! His dad has arthritis. Once you get in there a few times you notice a bunch of old women in there It's not uncomfortable So here is this guy steel worker and says look maybe it's my brain They were in the car on their way home I already feel it working This is a guy who is really against the whole idea So anyway, yeah Unbelievable. So yeah, I got a big fan or later in the show. Ooh, hey that's my beat What are you doing? You're doing on my beat and no one is always promoting pot Your the your the one who do your beat is smoking it Oh, yeah, I'm sorry Which I think will actually have something to do with this clip All right last last we got Brian Latakian latin wait, no Timothy Pierce I see here

1:06:03 Oh, yeah. No this is Timothy Pierce he was on two shows ago three shows ago the same donation with no note don't know from the 14th I which i read last show and I read it before and I'm not reading it again you sure that he's not donating over and over again just sending us the same note? He's not sending the same note! He only has one notice from the fourteenth Well, then what's going on here? And we're in December. I don't know. I think it got carried over some unknown reason But I'll say Timothy purse $333 no note Maybe he can straighten this out

1:06:39 Baron Ladequin in Houston $200 ITM nighted on show 978 but never de-douche'd. Oh no, well let's do that now! You've been de-douche'd. Jenny asks does that make me a black douche? Well I have to ask are you black? A black douche Anyway, thorough de-douching. Anyhow... Merry Christmas and thank you guys for all you do and that's about it. Well, I'm glad you got your deducing in there. Fantastic! I do have a couple of notes from people and I do have the list... And I read these separately the list of everyone who donated over 50 pounds in UK Oh, in the UK at The Meetup? Yes. In the UK's. I can do that now or I can do it to beginning of next segment but I have to do it before the night because there is a couple nights in there Then why don't just do it now because this was lightless anyway Yeah It was So let me grab the notes

1:07:43 the notes in a special spot. All right, let's start with Toby Langford who is from Birmingham and by the way I'm going to talk to people about these notes in the envelopes it's nice to have your name and where you're from There's nobody did. And your actual full name if you can, or just a nickname if you want to use that and then if there is a note it would be nice. Anyway Toby Langford Birmingham 50 pounds. Kaz to be knighted... You might get your pin out. Oh hold on. Kaz? Kaz! K-A-Z Kaz? Yeah yeah. Okay Kaz He donated fifty pounds and he already had enough to be knighted as Sir Kaz of the 30 trees

1:08:28 Sir Kaz of the 30 trees. Yeah, the 30 trees. He actually dropped off a card that doesn't really say anything except Nightmare is Sir Kaz and he's got us as... Anyway it's good so it was a funny card Leslie and Dan 33 pounds I have note by the way 50 pounds is six six dot six dollars I thought that was interesting. She wrote a little short, little note that was actually kind of pleasant and I was going to read it. And we had a long chat with her she's trying to bring her dad did the thing. He didn't want to come? No, he didn't wanna come but he couldn't make it. Oh too bad. Yeah here is another 10 years my dad is a veteran listener to the show and who was really hoping again some time off

1:09:20 work to swing by the meetup. So this is donations from my dad and I, he introduced me to the show two years ago and I haven't missed an episode since there you go guys keep up the great work and have an excellent trip time in London and there you have it that's Leslie and Dan Dennis the Dad Sir Robert Clayson one of our regulars $100 sir nuked to be Now he has 200 in and there's another pin, you gotta write this down. Again no... let me get the note. This is a knighting? It's gonna be yeah. He never gave off the name or anything he just said

1:10:08 Sir Nuked to be, so he's going to be a... Oh wait. No, it's not going to be a knight and he's going to eventually be sir Nuked. Okay. Gotcha. But he never left the name except nuked. So I don't know what that tells you. Okay onward Doug Kitzig 50 pounds and sir nuke to be was 200. Sir Luke Rainier Baron of London, 50 pounds. He has a note. Uh, nuked to be Two of the big ones. Surreared, yeah here it is. Never thought I'd see a meetup here in my barony. This is the Baron of London. Yeah, of course! I've included this donation as they're becoming ever... Oh with a 50 pound note as they're being rare because there's lot of people won't even take them he says and so he's doing himself a favor because he can't get anyone any... A lot of shops won't take him did you know this? No

1:11:08 Wait, because it's not plastified or is that the plastic money? I don't know. He just says he won't take them as of today's exchange rate this donation 666 dot 66 people do great work hope to see Adam here at some point sir Luke onward Richard footer 250 pounds and he has a note so he'll be an executive producer Well, actually no that would be over 300 won't it? Yeah. He'll be an executive producer Okay so we're gonna do these names after the show you're gonna give them to me again because I didn't follow everything okay good Like oh, No was I supposed to write down the executive producers too? Just write down the nights Okay I've been listening since The Burning Man when hit in the mouth by Sir Matt Wittering Been hooked ever since listen to your shows at least twice during my morning and evening commutes

1:12:02 So he's a guy who listens twice. Still on the road to be knighted, didn't want a blog off one so I let the time pass before I next donate love everything you guys do thanks for saving me from being another zombie millennial. Yes that is what we do! You're welcome yeah will be an executive producer for this show happy to help Richard Futter and then Sir John South London, $200 have no he'll also be a he'll be what does that get it I don't know 50s three six six times four. No just doesn't quit will be associate executive producer all right and i do have a note from him please find enclosed two hundred dollars hope you enjoyed the trip that's it nothing really these notes are very not non-elaborated

1:12:59 Nuked I got nukes note that should read it a long time boner first-time donor except my 200 and cold hard Sterling is my first contribution to the BP ITU been too afraid to donate via PayPal you guys need to set up a Bitcoin address Can you help my two girls to shout? I needs a shot at first two girls. Hello girls Elise eight and Saskia five To your show every time they're in the car very good girls And he needs a de-douching with John saying, you knowbert. Okay here we go You've been dedouched! You knowbert? I think that covers it Alright i have one more note here It's a note that was hand delivered to me yesterday Here in Austin from Brandon Toy of the Michigan Local 1

1:13:57 Oh, Michigan Local 1. Michigan Local One was in the house or in town and he delivered a scroll which I was notified we have a messenger from Michigan Local one with a scroll this is parchment paper it has the ever recognizable night ring implant on some sealing wax so we know it's official. Be it known in the year of our Lord 2017 that the No Agenda producers of Michigan Local 1 request the visit of Adam Clark Curry, beloved among us as The Crackpot and his royal consort The Keeper to our lands in the near future. The undersigned of Gitmo Nation Mitten

1:14:35 Brandon Toy, Sir Timothy Kiernan, Baronet of the No Fixed Title. Sir Vix, Baron of the Hot Southern Bush. Sir Nick, Dragon Of The Four Domains. Sir Mark, The Wandering Knight. Brian and Susie Churchill and Lisa... I think it's Beimer? Bemmer? Don't know So that means we got to go. Michigan is fantastic, it's a very entertaining place but you're gonna demand because since you would be their leader I somebody take over the Packard plant and also the old train station which has been abandoned

1:15:16 for sightseeing. Okay, now Detroit is fabulous sightseeing even though a lot of the good stuff has been torn down I've been told that it's probably best to do the meetup in Ann Arbor. Yes, but that's a short drive okay yeah it's like 45 minutes or something it's not that bad I mean it's not the audience think that's long but yes Ann Arbor is the place you do to meet up but you want it you definitely want to tour Detroit It's fantastic! Yeah so we're gonna have to do that we have to plan that We got a lot of stuff we gotta plan...we gotta get through Christmas first Holy moly. All right, everybody thank you very much special thanks to people came to meetups and came to Austin and And everybody who's helping out These are executive and associate executive well executive producers and one associate executive producer actual credits You can use anywhere that recognized by the Producers Guild of America and other associations because we're a real show We've been around for awhile and We do this based solely on your support

1:16:13 So please think of us for our show on Thursday. Devorak dot org slash N-A- And today being a show day, you never know what you might find out there remember to propagate our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up! Shut Up! Now we were talking just at the beginning of the B block there about the fruit machine

1:16:52 Yes, the fruit. Let me tell you I actually had forgotten what the topic was and I asked the troll room and they reminded Me uh... The Fruit Machine so there is this actually there's a little bit of looking into this organization It's called that we demand an apology network They're the ones who started this all off And they wanted, well I'll just read you a little bit of the introduction here. The We Demand an Apology Network demands an apology for the historical wrongs committed by the Canadian government against LGBT people. Notice there's no two-spirit on their demand.

1:17:29 Letterhead the we demand apology network demands an apology for the historical wrongs committed by the Canadian government against LGBT people We bring together people who were directly affected by the national security campaigns to purge homosexuals from public service The RCMP and the military and supporters and researchers who believed in injustice was done And so this is a lot of text they got on this website But they're the ones that came up with the idea of really reparations in a way Money, money money money. And I'm going to give you just a quick backgrounder here's Trudeau who we played on the last show A number of clips about this apology and how inhumane it was and here is a bit about the outfit behind it This We Demand An Apology Network. We also thank members of The We Demand An Apology Network

1:18:21 our LGBTQ2 Apology Advisory Council and the Just Society Committee for EGAL as well as the individuals who have long advocated for this overdue apology. There you go, so we looked up these fruit machines Yeah, and they called him yeah And we both said almost simultaneously Wow I think you said what a collectible and I said yeah. I really need one of these oh my god Beautiful and as you look a little further The manufacturer went on to create the Church of Scientology E-meters. Yeah, they look the same! It's the same technology Only there are more knobs and buttons and little switches and gears and whatever all kinds of crazy stuff on a fruit machine The e-meters are pretty simple Well I think it is just an abstraction really Of what the GADAR was But if you look at it, it's the Matheson And Matheson went onto make the e-meters

1:19:23 It's called the electro-psychometer. That's... I would guess this has been debunked more than a few times! I want one of these so badly. Oh, me too. Oh my goodness wouldn't you love to have that? Good listening to have it. This... yeah, in it I have a Geiger counter from the World War II one those yellow ones like that is beautiful. Yeah those are cool and still works but to have one of these in my collection oh man And it kind of begs the question, when the e-meters were used based on the exact same principle what was The Church of Scientology thinking? Let's find gays. I have no idea. No, I haven't got a clue yet that...I don't know you'd have to find some insider in The Church of Scientology yeah they'd have to go way back because this e meter thing was used i think when

1:20:17 Probably not during the Dianetics era right which was what the 70 60 70s I think it was the sixties or the right and that's the same time as The Purge yeah I don't know. Maybe they just didn't want gays, but that didn't work out for the Scientologists." You know what's interesting about it? There has always been this story that Ron L Hubbard made up the whole church on the back of a napkin in a bar and ha-ha-ha-ha and write about this stuff and show you can make it happen... I got a better story from Jerry Purnell who used to be his good friend But all I'm going to say is in addition to that then I wanna hear the Purnell story of course RIP

1:20:56 is maybe he went, hey that's not funny enough. Watch this let me get this fruit machine from the Canadians and we'll use it to clear people with their E-meter status. Yeah that kind of sounds like it So what did Pernell have to say about it? Pernell said the whole thing was a beef that Hubbard had with the government, especially the tax guys. About taxes yeah And he decided to start a religion and then he took it to the extremes uh...to tell the government to screw off but they still kept coming after him I guess he had back-taxed I don't know what his tax status was but apparently wasn't good and that's when he had the retreat to the boat

1:21:37 stay on that thing. That's when the Sea Org started, I think yeah mm-hmm but no it was all about taxes and the government. Right okay wasn't like a lark right? Okay but then it still holds true It's like okay you know...it's a lark? Yeah let me just... Not a LARK! A LARK is just do it to goof off he did it with a purpose in mind right and then he took it really seriously by putting I just love that. Well, we don't know that no, but he could have been sold a bill of goods by that manufacturing company possibly could've invented it or he may have dreamed it up himself is not an on its own. I think so wheatstone bridge. I'm not sure the name of it as a galvanic response device and this simple it's like a simple light detector basically didn't have all those bells and whistles of the fruit machine has all kinds

1:22:33 I love the meters. The meters have 20 different scales on it, all kinds of lines and colors is fantastic Yeah, there's a line... GAY! No wait here we go oh just the catalog yeah i'm looking at ebay just the catalog alone for the model E54? The catalog From 1953, electro-psychomotor. 500 dollars just for the catalog! Oh jeez... Oh this is bad news. Apparently somebody discovered these long before we did Yeah and went, ha collectible

1:23:12 Oh man. Well, you know the other thing I want to get a hold of? What? When we're talking about collectibles, I want to get ahold of an Enigma machine. I've played with a couple of them. Two people I know have them. Really? Or two organizations have them. One is at Silicon Valley and then I saw another one in some trade show and I typed a little message in it. It's kind of cool but most of them that are floating around for sale are immaculate condition. Okay. We have two things we need. And what, you know, so we're talking about the German. Yeah yeah yeah the code machine. The code machine? Yeah that and but this other thing this new thing the fruit machine I never heard of this thing but it's gotta be great to have! Now there was an article just switching gears here there was an article in The New York Times actually an op-ed i should say by Jill Filipovic I don't know who she is now actually I do know she used to work at the times I think then went on to work for

1:24:12 I liked it because it kind of corroborates a bit with what some of our thinking regarding the hashtag Me Too. Oh, we need our sexual update! We do? I got a sexual update for us. No, you need the... You need a jingle. Yeah, the jingle. And now its time for your Sexual Harassment Update. There we go. Sexual Harassment Update So this op-ed is titled The Men Who Cost Clinton The Election And I'll just read a bit of it. Matt Lauer, like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin before him is a journalist out of a job after his employer fired him for sexually harassing female colleagues It's good news that real penalties are now level on men who harass after centuries of the cost mostly befall in the women who endure harassment yada yada yada yada and then she goes on to say

1:25:07 Mark Halperin and Charlie Rose set much of the televised political discourse on the race, interviewing other pundits, opinioning... opining themselves and obsessing over the electoral play-by-play. Mr. Rose after election took a tone similar to Mr. Lauer's with Mrs. Clinton talking down to her interrupting her portraying her as untrustworthy. Mr. Halpern was a harsh critic of Mrs. Clinton painting her is ruthless and corrupt while going surprisingly easy on Mr. Trump." And then I did little bit before this I'm not completely buying that argument. I watched Hal Perrin and his friend John, who I know...I don't think he was going that easy on anybody

1:25:45 But that's the argument is not him going easy. The argument is you'll recall Matt Lauer interviewed mrs Clinton and mr Trump in an official commander-in-chief forum for NBC He notoriously peppered and interrupted mrs Clinton with cold aggressive condescending questions hyper focused on her emails only to pitch softballs of Mr Trump so forget the easy on other politicians I'm not gonna argue that one this goes back to the takedown Why did this happen? And we've got three guys who Hillary hates And you've got the New York Times. But, you know, you're putting two and two together! I'm connecting the dots baby! Could be...I mean why not? Why not? They go after Harvey Weinstein No, look, the cat's out of the bag now it's just who are their targets We could think John You and I know at least one person right now today on this show we could destroy his career. We do? Yes

1:26:46 Of course we do. Okay, well we don't do that because we're not vindictive and we don't have an axe to grind with everybody. We got an axe with everybody but not anybody so you know I think this is being misused abused for all kinds of personal vendettas all kinds of gain yeah well it's definitely going on mm-hmm Well let's since you played the jingle lets play the update And I have an update and a follow up clip we already played. I chopped it down a little bit to get, because there's a new piece of information in here which leads me to believe that NBC

1:27:26 is full of crap about a lot of this stuff. But let's play the Matt Lauer, this is the final and then at the very end they kick it up by also in kind of indicting Russell Simmons, the hip-hop guy. He was kinda using his power over her According to Variety magazine, several women say they complained to executives at the network about Lauer's behavior which fell on deaf ears given the lucrative advertising surrounding Today. Jeff Zucker, the former president of NBCUniversal who led The Today Show when he was just 26 had this to say... Obviously I've known Matt for 25 years and

1:28:03 I didn't know this Matt. And NBC's current management doesn't... Oh it's getting so close, the fire is getting hot for him! Ooh Zuck! I've known Matt for 25 years and uh I didn't know this Matt And NBC's current management doubled down, releasing a statement unequivocally denying any prior knowledge of complaints about Matt Lauer's conduct. But Variety magazine is questioning the validity of that statement. It is at odds with our reporting we had talked to dozens of former and current staffers who say that there was general knowledge within all ranks of NBC between staffers, high-ranking executives other anchors that were on air with Matt knowing detailing speaking about what Matt was doing pursuing women.

1:28:55 You wish me well. Oh boy do we. Matt Lauer's firing is also bringing the tearful departure of Ann Curry back into the headlines. Curry is now speaking out about Lauer's firing, telling People magazine she is still processing it adding the women's movement got us into the workplace but it didn't make us safe once we got there and the battle lines are now clear. We need to move this revolution forward and make our workplaces safe And Lindsay Davis back with us here tonight and this evening we're also learning details about what NBC News employees were told by their boss after Matt Lauer's firing. Yeah, and David he would not give the details about that complaint but he did describe a power dynamic at play which he said made the encounters inappropriate

1:29:36 All right, Lindsay Davis leading us off. Lindsay thank you and one more major name music and movie mogul Russell Simmons resigning from all of his companies today after facing a new claim of sexual assault Screenwriter Jenny Lumet writing in the Hollywood Reporter about the incident from 1991 when she says she was around 24 years old claiming Simmons offered her a ride home then locked the car doors and had the driver take her to his home where she says he sexually assaulted her. Simmons denies the assault saying he remembers the night differently but apologizes for being thoughtless and insensitive in relationships over the years we do move on tonight yeah now I want to go back on that comment that the Variety guys said it doesn't match our reporting, we talked to a bunch of guys...I want to

1:30:20 swing back to the original day Lauer was fired and just play a piece of what Savannah Guthrie was reading, which is the memo that came in from Andy Lack. And this is the Andy Lack memo and then I have a comment about this. Yes, the Lack Memo. It represented, after serious review a clear violation of our company's standards. As a result we have decided to terminate his employment while it is the first complaint about his behavior in the over 20 years he has been at NBC News. We were also presented with reasons to believe this may not have been an isolated incident." Okay okay first complaint that never happened gosh you were stunned by this! The Variety reporter contradicted that and so I

1:31:20 I'd like to ask the question, how can you trust a news organization NBC if they lie about their own situation? This is a lie that they never got a complaint before. Because once the variety guys started looking into it there were tons of complaints everybody knew what was going on with this guy and i would say Savannah Guthrie knew too as she read this thing you know with the crocodile tears so this is bullcrap This just tells me that NBC is a bad news organization. They lie, they're liars! Yeah well they hire liars... liar hires, liars hires. How about Brian Williams? Another liar yeah and they lie over there What's always cool though is when you've had a 20 or 25 year television career and I think he was 25 because he worked at VH1 it was way below us

1:32:16 There's a lot of material. It's a lot of fun stuff I just love over and over showing him being all self-righteous about women but Norm Macdonald who i think is an undervalued comic He hosted the White House Correspondents Dinner years ago. It's been great to be in Washington, I can tell you that man! Oh my god...I had a lovely stay here so far and sightseeing. In fact I stopped at this museum, it'll probably be interesting for you guys They have this news museum now, have you seen this? It's a museum that is dedicated to broadcast journalism and they have all sorts of tributes to Edward R. Murrow and such, you know? And they have this one fascinating place it's kind of interactive display and visitors what they can do is appear on camera and pretend that they are real journalists So far its been visited 20 times by Matt Lauer

1:33:17 That was pretty good Matt Lauer he's always been the joke of the industry Poor guy no more. Oh, yeah, so Pelosi finally changed her tune Nancy Pelosi about representative Conyers So you smacked your lip. Oh, no it's the it's the new setup. It's not me Well the allegations against congressman Conyers as we have learned more since Sunday are serious disappoint disappointing and very credible It's very sad of the brave women who came forward or owed justice I pray for Congressman Conyers and his family And wish them well

1:34:02 However, Congressman Conyers should resign. Yes. As Dean, Congressman Conyers has served our Congress for more than five decades and shaped some of the most consequential legislation of the last half century. However, zero tolerance means consequences for everyone no matter how great the legacy is no life to harass or discriminate." So she's very clear but still you know he's been a great guy Fabulous. His lawyer is a whole different story though, did you see this guy? Konya's lawyer? No not that I recall Ah this guy is great he's a black guy with the bow tie so it's just a look It's very specific kind of look He's not having any of it and if you listen to the rebuttal from many of these accused men

1:34:56 You know, they remember the night differently. The circumstances weren't quite that way... Mr. Campbell indicates that he never saw anything and verified that the congressman hired the accuser's daughter but there became a problem all hell broke loose when the congressmen fired the daughter and then all of a sudden we get this sexual harassment sexual allegation problem Here is the predator that she is talking about He's holding up a picture of the two of them in party dress. At the Barrister Ball, 2011 Barrister Ball she said that he took every opportunity during hours

1:35:39 to harass her. He was an animal, but you booed up with him at the Barrister Ball? Come on now! It doesn't work like that. I like that. Come on now! You know it doesn't work like that at all. Come on now it doesn't work like that but you want to get angry and you want to get mad when a congressman defends himself this ladies and gentlemen I promise you If this nonsense continues, this is just a harbinger of what's to come. And I want to thank all the media who are here who have been fair, who have been trying to get out the other side of the story because there is another side of the story now

1:36:26 Conyers looks like it could be creepy, but when you hear about someone's daughter got fired and this could be retribution then everything... if your a hammer everything looks like a nail. Yeah but when you hear the story and also take it from the perspective that she didn't put out so she got fired. Well possible? It's possible I don't know! But you know what no one is talking about this known as really have to use the word knows having the conversation You know, they can't do it on mainstream media. You can for one second talk about the real problems that's going on you know? Pamela Anderson she got slammed butt-slammed Angela Lansbury oh my god did you read what she wrote? What did Pamela Anderson do besides hang out with Julian?

1:37:14 She said, you know what you're getting into if you go into a hotel room alone. Yeah yeah I think she's right. Angela Lansbury said there is no excuse whatsoever for men to harass women in an abusive sexual manner and I am devastated anyone should deem me capable of thinking otherwise because she wrote something and the feminist just got all over her Speaking to Radio Times, let me see... where's her original statement? Ah! Oh yeah here it is. She was speaking to Radio Times, she's 92 by the way. We have to own up to the fact that women since time immemorial have gone out of their way to make themselves attractive and unfortunately it has backfired on us and this is where we are today although its awful to say we can't make ourselves look as attractive as possible without being knocked down raped

1:38:10 And they got people got in their face about that, but you know that's the problem You know we're never gonna get anywhere if you can't talk about this stuff honestly because there are two sides to every story But the power structure. That's where it's egregious It's abusive power egregious abuse of power and that's the real problem, but you can't deny The tension between men and women which has been going on since Men & Women well This is why I brought up I forgot which of Jessica Chastain coming out on one of the shows with that slit dress showing all that leg. And so, I thought that was abusive... it's not necessary! Well this is the problem with show business

1:39:03 It's not a new problem with show. No, it's surprise surprise is not something that's really new although cool Lauer his wife is Dutch I'd forgotten about that so the yes she is Yeah, the dutch press together they do not look like a matching couple This is his second or third? I think he was a second but he's probably been like this all of us life well before you get went bald and and became kind of a goofy looking guy. He was a good looking guy with his hair, younger. And he probably was one of those guys who...

1:39:41 We have abused the situation. There are a lot of, some of the best looking guys I've ever known really some of them hate women. We had a number of salesmen at PC Magazine who were just amazingly good looking guys and it was what you want as a sales person. You want good-looking guys, good-looking women they go out and sell them. For the ads yeah And one of these guys who may have been the best looking of the group, I mean just a male model no doubt about it. He hated women! Wow... I mean he just hated them and i think in large part because he got tired of them? Women threw themselves at him and he didn't like that you know I have a brain or something. Wow all those things guys never say

1:40:29 Oh, what a punishment to have to go through life being a handsome dude. How horrible! And we of course had my favorite one and it was fairly I still I probably haven't seen him for years but I remember the time We're at an event in Atlanta. I don't know if I told this story before, but we're in Atlanta and there's a PC Magazine event and there's a bunch of...we have hired local models to man the table. Ah booth babes! Well it was the table for you come in get your badge. Table trolls? Well I do not know what you call them but anyway one of them was couple I think they were all like Atlanta Hawks cheerleaders. Wow okay

1:41:17 And so one of them was just gorgeous and they were, Mark is the guy who knows this story. He kept eyeballing him and so I'm like the troublemaker trying to say you should get over there. Let's just stop yes, you are a trouble maker. Yes, you are! So I said you gotta get a date with this girl she's literally she's just staring at ya And, you know I don't think so. I got other things to do." Come on! And so, you know, I finally goaded him into it and he got his date and then... The day after the day I said what happened? It sounds like it could have been funny. He says first of all she lived in a trailer park and the second thing was she was a communist Oh no! She spent the whole date berating me for being an enemy of the people What?!

1:42:07 Yeah! He says it was the worst date he's ever had. She was beautiful. Wrong again, Dvorak. No I was right. I got a great story out of it. We have a final update here. We have another allegation against Senator Al. A new woman is coming forward this morning to say that Senator Al Franken groped her years ago, Her name is Stephanie Kemplin she is a 41 year old army veteran She says that when she was deployed in Kuwait In December of 2003 She met Senator Franken while he was touring with the USO To visit American troops abroad

1:42:44 Now this is what Stephanie told CNN about the interaction that she had with him during a photo op. She said, when he put his arm around me he groped my right breast. He kept his hand all the way over on my breast and I remember thinking is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident was he going to move his hand now she says that the touching lasted at least five seconds and then at some point she shifted her body so that his hand was no longer directly on her breasts As you can see in that photo, you can see Senator Franken's hand is on her side. Now she says that she felt ashamed, she felt embarrassed and she was in shock in the moment and that she did not say anything directly to Senator Franken at

1:43:26 at the time. Now, I will note that we reached out to Franken's office last night and this is the spokesperson statement provided to CNN. The spokesperson says as Senator Franken made clear this week he takes thousands of photos and has met tens of thousands of people and he has never intentionally engaged in this kind of conduct. He remains fully committed to cooperating with the ethics investigation now Allison and Chris just put all of this into context Stephanie is the fifth woman now in a period of around two weeks to accuse Senator Franken of inappropriate touching and she is also the second woman To say that this kind of misconduct took place while he was on tour with the USO. Yeah, it's a pattern They always come out of the woodwork at them and I am sending get around it I'm semi authorized to tell you that I intend to do some boots-on-the-ground investigative work

1:44:26 as the No Agenda show could possibly have a live broadcast or two from Kandahar. Oh, Kandahar! Yes... Or maybe the other base whatever it is I may be going Yeah you said that Well i don't think I've mentioned on the show no you haven't because its not a done deal yeah so we're working on that but uh... The logistics are kind of there just have to figure out when And I think it'd be kind of cool do the show live from Afghanistan my end. We'll get some dudes and some some grunts Talk about what's happening? Okay, I'm thinking leg no no they've got to I think they have 20 megabits which is back called straight into it means it's It shouldn't be too bad we'll find out

1:45:19 You definitely will find out. Take a camera." Yes, I think that might be a good idea and it might be the trip of a lifetime. Do you want to come? Probably not. Oh... I mean, I might. I'll think about it when the logistics are all worked out. Okay. It seems like it's pretty straightforward. Yeah. So anyway we'll do... because I'm thinking maybe The Boots on the Ground reporting, you'd be interested as well if we go interview some people so tell me about Franken. Yeah, it does sound good. And now it's time for the sexual harassment update! I need a closer jingle... This was your sexual harassment update? Yeah and close the door. I do have an interesting clip which will include the lawyer clip that I teased at the beginning of this show. Okay Have you heard about the brainwashing killer?

1:46:16 The brainwashed killer? No, no. Brainwashed by his own shrink to kill her ex? No! Okay where's this report from? This is I think it's CBS. We have new developments in a bizarre attempted murder case that we first told you about last year. The guy doing the reporting took, is taking over from Charlie Rose he has a very skinny young light-skinned bald black kid who sounds gay What's his name? They found the right guy I don't know his name. All right, a new star will be on the lookout for him We have new developments in a bizarre attempted murder case that we first told you about last year A young man Jake Nolan claims he was brainwashed by his psychiatrist so he could kill on her behalf He is serving time in prison now five years after the attack The woman he claims was the mastermind Dr Pamela Bookbinder is under arrest 48 hours correspondent Peter van Zandt has a preview of it

1:47:20 Jake Nolan readily admits he walked into a New York City high-rise on November 12, 2012 with murder on his mind. I planned on killing Michael Weiss. Dr. Michael Weiss is a psychiatrist Inside Jake's duffel bag, a knife and large sledgehammer. He sees the sledge hammer and charges at me...and I reach for the knife. Jake's attorney Roger Stavis This is not a whodunit he did what he was accused of doing but the big question was why? I saw Jake Nolan brainwashed by Dr. Pamela Buckbinder. Dr. Buckbinder is another psychiatrist and Jake's cousin She and Dr. Weiss were battling over custody of their son They hated each other, and in turn she made me hate him

1:48:13 Jake claims Dr. Bookbinder manipulated him to kill by filling his head with horror stories about her ex and he says he was vulnerable because he suffers from bipolar and other disorders And she morphed me into whatever she wanted me to be This surveillance footage shows dr. Bookbinder with Jake paying for that sledgehammer the night before the attack Wow now Sledgehammer? It's a bit crude. Yeah, I would say...

1:48:51 You come in there, you bust in there then you crack the guy's head with a sledgehammer I guess or kneecap him and then smash him with it. It sounds pretty gruesome but meanwhile she has a lawyer she is in this slammer She has a lawyer and this is the bookbinders' lawyer WTF clip This lawyer comes up with what I think is really a poor analogy The law finally caught up with this Ivy League psychiatrist. Eric Franz, one of Dr. Bookbinder's lawyers says Jake acted alone. Pamela Bookbinder is an educated psychiatrist not Wile E Coyote. Dr. Pamela Bookbinder remains in Rikers Island Jail

1:49:36 Wiley Coyote? I'm not quite sure i understand the analogy. There is no analogy, it's just a stupid thing to say! Wiley coyotes not Hitler While we're doing that, I have two whipsaws. CBS Whipsaw someone sent me. Yeah, I think they're pretty good actually. Whipsaw you want to explain the concept quickly? Yeah the concept is you are doing a story and by the way Good Reporters Jeff Pagase by the way as I have never caught him doing this and Good Reporters don't do it And what it is where you make an assertion and then you back it up with a clip

1:50:17 But when upon careful examination the clip has absolutely nothing to do with the assertion Here's clip one, but CBS News confirms There is a plan to put CIA director Mike Pompeo at the State Department replacing him with either retired Vice Admiral Robert Harward or Arkansas senator and Trump loyalist Tom Cotton I'm proud to be representing the people of Arkansas. Would you like to be CIA Director? I'm very proud to be representing the people of Arkansas. Cotton denied that he was looking for a new job It wasn't really a complete whipsaw it wasn't a perfect one and by the way, we haven't discussed this before Tom Cotton is the worst guy? I mean He you know, he's a slick operator and everything but if we talked about him in the show before he's kind of a sketchy character

1:51:08 Yeah, yeah next second one is better and the handling of tensions with North Korea boiled over just a few weeks ago We disagree in a couple of things Sometimes I'd like him to be a little bit tougher. That came after reports that Tillerson has become frustrated with the president and had even referred to him as a moron. I have never considered leaving this post. These are all, those are two in a row that just got nothing to do with what they're asserting How's it boiling over? I don't know. Just thought it was really funny You got to play that one again because it was good you have two good Assertions followed by a clip that's got nothing to do with anything and the same and the other one was just announced Oh, by the way these are technically non sequiturs and the handling of tensions with North Korea boy I also like just the gratuitous missile launch to start off any North Korea report

1:52:02 And the handling of tensions with North Korea boiled over just a few weeks ago. We disagreed on a couple of things, sometimes I'd like him to be a little bit tougher... That came after reports that Tillerson has become frustrated with the president and had even referred to him as a moron. I have never considered leaving this post Are you sure that these weren't just clipped together by the guy who sent them to you? No, no. Well I'm not 100% sure. It's astonishing! Yeah it doesn't surprise me...it doesn't surprise you either does it? No, I've heard worse but they're non sequiturs they're stupid and a good reporter wouldn't do them. They mean they just are lazy there's just you gonna tell your time about Tillerson just drops and then make an assertion didn't drop some random clip that's got nothing to do with anything it was just Tillerson saying something this is not good news

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2:03:06 But Wired Magazine is now saying they're going to put up a paywall. Goodbye, na-na-na-na, hey hey! So they'll be gone and... I get irked when I run into one of these things. I just get mad somebody said read this article and I can't get to it. If you're gonna send me an article to read as a clip in some pay wall just cut and paste it right out. I can read that way otherwise I'm not gonna bother We also saw a video service shutter and this was a service that, Vidme? V-I-D-M-E.

2:03:43 No, yeah. Yeah it was a video sharing platform they've closed and they Why do you think that is? Well they actually talk about that in their goodbye note What did they say? Well although we still... It's sad to see these things go Although we still believe the world would greatly benefit from a creator first video platform You hear that? Creator first. Yeah, create! And I love this creator what are you...I'm a creator A creator. I create blogs When you go to these big conferences from Adobe they always call them the creatives Ah yes the creatives. I'm a creator in the creatives industry yeah we weren't um okay although we still believe the world would greatly benefit from a creator-first video platform We weren't able to find a path to financial sustainability Ya don't say

2:04:33 Here are major obstacles we encountered in our attempts. Now, let's pay attention! Number one... Monetizing user-generated content is increasingly challenging and this is what I wanted to focus on so people understand why YouTube is doing what it's doing and Google was doing what its doing and what your future is as a creator because you're pretty much fucked Here we go. Advertisers want to target specific audiences, which means a new platform that doesn't store troves of personal user data is at severe disadvantage relative to Facebook and Google, which combined control 60% of online ad spending in the US

2:05:16 Two, most advertisers want their ads to be...to complement quote brand safe content. Yeah that's a word I haven't heard for awhile. Unfortunately... At least a week! This is a subjective designation which is difficult to define and enforce. Content therefore must be thoroughly reviewed and moderated at expensive prospect As YouTube recently learned with the ad-pocalypse, even a single poorly moderated video can result in a PR disaster and undermine advertiser trust. 3. Few advertisers are willing to negotiate direct deals with platforms that don't have enormous scale, meaning ad revenue rates are lower for newer platforms. In turn there's less overall revenue to be shared with creators which means creators are less likely support newer platforms for a sustained period of time. Oh no it was a catch-22!

2:06:09 Four, although... Yes. Can you send me this document? Because it sounds like a column to me. It is a column John I will send this to you. Thanks Although we introduced direct fan patronage as an additional business model let me just say something stop you right there whenever you use the term direct fan patronage and call that a business model you deserve to go out of business This is how stupid can you be? Alright. The profit margin was insufficient to cover the high cost of storing and delivering video. Yes, videos expensive to store and deliver. Storing and delivering videos becoming less expensive but remains extremely costly

2:06:54 Videos are often massive files, making them globally available at any time as expensive. YouTube sold to Google just 18 months after launching partly because of YouTube's high burn rate and to this day is still likely operating in a loss." I agree. When we launched in 2014, we projected that infrastructure costs would decline due to decreased competition in the CDN and data storage industries while marginal prices have fallen dramatically over the past few years our aggregate costs still outpace our ability to generate meaningful revenue And this is... We need to know this before going in. Yeah, but who cares? You know they had some hook I'm sure they had some great deck they showed on Tuesday to the VC and they got a bunch of money and they went for it and uh.. They couldn't ramp! And i think it shows that you know yeah there's if your banking your future on a career as a creator or you might want to start looking at some other vocation because unless

2:07:54 Superstar in bed with the video platform, then let's face it there is only YouTube really. You're not going to make money and you are probably going to get demonetized and eventually kicked off so a word to the wise A word to the wise! Word to the wise Another phrase from The Shays that has not been used Yeah, well yeah. Good reason. Well that was good! So go on you had something to say? You got more to add to this? I do want to add something else...I want to add the because this is what's going to be conflated with this is net neutrality and we have we touched on it briefly at the end of the last show I know if we've been through this several times I think we again need to remind people

2:08:49 Why this is a bullcrap argument and that it's Google and Apple and Facebag And not Netflix anymore because they fix their problem. They don't they don't even go over the net anymore They're in all the all the data barns, and all the storage centers right near you know the right in the network Yeah There in the network But the amount of people who just think that and of course it helps with you know this being Trump's guy as he You know, because everything he does is wrong. But believe me... Let's give your example again of telemedicine and just how that fits in with net neutrality. This is very important because people are being hoodwinked into one- Well it's only one of many examples. I did a column in 2014, I think as being passed around once again on the Twitter.

2:09:35 And I think this is the best column. I've done this column maybe six times, different variations of the net neutrality column but I think the 2014 version was the best and one of my arguments is that all bits are equal well how does that make any sense when you have to deal with quality of service? Should a video bit be equal to a text bit And more importantly, what are you going to do when you have this telemetry operations? So you got a doctor in Sydney Australia and he's got his rig and he's on the internet. He is going to operate on somebody in the middle of nowhere outside of Perth

2:10:21 And he needs the good bits and he needs some, you know. Priority scheduling of his traffic? You know better than I do! Why don't you tell this story?! Anyway so... When you wrote the column Exactly! I write this stuff but I can't remember it Okay here's the problem First of all your being hoodwinked and my favorite has got to be, I'm sure you've seen this one Is that it looks like a ad for ISP It's always always from Portugal or someone you know someplace. You clearly can't verify it, and it's showing you hey Do you want? 30 hours of face bag this month that's 1495 hey you want to be good on Twitter That's 995 extra does yeah and people first of all they look at this oh man This is what's coming. This is what's gonna happen okay? How's that work? Yeah? I don't know and in second

2:11:14 Is your life so pathetic that you're upset about losing access to Facebag? No, that's really bad. I mean that's That's the level that we're at and it's very that is the level they're selling because that's the that's you know That's exactly where the emotional nut balls are and this where you have to that's where you go after them Yeah anyway everybody's all in on this. I mean we can bitch-and-moan about it well there's like Let me just give you the main players and their reason so the face bag Google Apple they want

2:11:50 They want regulation. They really do, they're saying they don't but they really want they want regulation in their favor what's being done here is a different kind of Problem it's not about you getting on your Facebook or your Twitter or anything like that. It's not about, you know stuff Not coming through it's about the language of the regulations that we're talking about where certain types of content will be deemed illegal and thus can be filtered and Certain types of network traffic can be deemed illegal And they haven't defined those But you can pretty much bet it's going to be peer-to-peer. It could be blockchain traffic might become illegal, that would be an easy one. So particularly proponents of Bitcoin should be outraged by the entire concept of the government having any kind of legislative power over the internet. That is what you don't want!

2:12:47 All this other stuff is pathetic. It's pathetic! The point I make over and over again, when the internet got to start getting going in todays... especially with the emergence of the web browser in 93 or so everybody was like oh the government hands off hands off hands off the internet don't touch the internet and now they're begging people to touch the Internet? Does anybody see a conflict of interest here you know first you want that goverment involved now you want the government involved I mean, the original thinkers were correct. You don't want the government involved but they're gonna be involved and you're not going to be able do anything about it once they are involved and They are gonna start...I think BitTorrent's a good example that so you can spot those packets nowadays. All peer-to-peer traffic will be deemed out illegal all of it Yeah But blockchain in particular look there already cracking down as any other IRS is getting into the game There's all kinds there's a lot happening in in the cryptocurrency scene

2:13:45 I just think it's interesting that they've sold the tech community and most of the public a bill of goods. And they're all in on it! Yeah, they're all in on if you listen to anybody talk about any of this or all... You know? They're all in on it. And by the way- I gotta put that in the next column. Oh yeah, there is an update. It's the 2017 version. Well remember its illegal network traffic That is the main thing. That's not even about the content but I would say network traffic is also First Amendment. You can argue with You could. But weren't these regular... Well, I'm talking about that so I mean in London and everything is BT British Telecom yeah everything so you're in an Airbnb and they go online and they give us a password to use their system

2:14:33 Everybody apparently has been plugged in. Everyone's got BT routers, because you get a list when you do your list of what's local nearby Wi-Fis and it's all right down to 100 of them. BT 603 dot 5. It's kind of like AT&T in an apartment building? Yeah! It's all BT, BT, BT, BT... You cannot go to the noagendashow.com. You cannot go to Dvorak.org What?! Yes. How about curry calm? No dead You're not allowed to go you can you just get limited access as JC pointed out the very large corporate sites Huh, you know who going do here and there but there's no way to bypass it yes There is if you're a customer of BT and you sign in you can go on everything huh yeah

2:15:26 Well, that sucks. Yeah! What list did we get on? We're not big enough for payoffs I would like to have some of our British knights and barons and people look into this and see why they can't be accessed at the first level yeah I find it very distressing That is distressing douchebags So, yeah. And I don't think net neutrality is going to have anything to do with any of this. The net neutrality thing's a scam. Now, I did make a list of some things that also wanted to talk about because you kind of have some knowledge of this which is the washing machines and dryers in Europe in general. You mean the combo washer dryer?

2:16:16 Well, there's the combo one. We only had a washer but then they have some drying mechanism But but the combo washer dryer is classic But the washing machine just in itself they seem to all be made by Bosch or some other electronic German electronic company They're all extremely small Yeah When Tina and I were in Amsterdam on our last trip They had one of these as well And our experience was you can't fit anything in it and it just stays damp. And it runs for like five hours. Well, the washing cycle's got a timer on to show you what it is. The washing cycle is two hours and 40 minutes.

2:17:00 Okay, and you put your stuff in there and it spins around as swashes back and forth because it's a front loader So you can't open it once you start. It spins around then stops Five minutes go by then spins around spins around stops And this does this for two hours. You're right some kind of power saver mode This feels like where goes zoom zoom zoom Zoom zoom zoom Instead of a normal machine which is off to the races and does its thing. Yes, an American Maytag or any other Whirlpool, any one of them... Kenmore! They- yes you can put in 30 pounds of clothes and fill it up and turn it on 15 minutes later the clothes are washed I think this another EU thing man This is energy saving But this predates the EU I first noticed this in the 70s

2:17:55 This is the stupid washing machines are idiotic. And then there's the combo one that you mentioned we didn't have this time, but I've seen I've used them You're right it takes about five hours and everything's damp I Don't understand it. I don't get it either just beyond me so what was your question? Why is this a common thing and nobody says anything about it That is a great question. I love that question, that is my favorite question ever asked of me on this podcast. Just someone picked up. It's a good one. It's a keeper. Hey you know you had a nice little expo and theory behind Meghan Markle

2:18:38 the new princess to be. Yeah, yeah. The spy theory! Yeah the spy theory and now she's touted as an actress but I looked at her IMDB and you know she's got a lot of third person on the right Yeah, she's definitely got a lot of sitting at the table in the back. A lot of screen extras guild stuff yeah Screen extras go I don't think there's a guild called the screen extras guilt But I like you want to look it up really is that true? Yeah We had a person at me view that I never thought about it but we had a person at Mevio That was a member of the screen extras Guild holy crap let me say yeah find it

2:19:24 Screen extras guild. I had no idea that existed oh my god well it's a part of, oh yeah the extra union screen extras guild seg huh? Yeah. Nah! There you go. How about that? That'd be no longer... Oh. Yeah anyway so- I can't get in that either You can't on that website or you can't get into the Union? Can't get into the Union. I'm so sorry man So um I would say You hit on something really big here. And I have a piece of her at the United Nations Women's Conference, and your assertion is this is a marriage of CIA possibly MI6? Yeah he looks MI6 to me He just has the look of a guy who was saying... He's perfect! You need a guy like that. Always in Africa, he's floating around. He likes to party

2:20:24 Yeah, party with booze. He's likes that he's not into drugs and the boost perfect Most of a lot of these guys their main job is to recruit yeah well her jobs Recruiting I think he can recruit very well both of them. Well here's the little background We're gonna have to start following her because I would like you to meet the new Angelina Jolie see I had been in school watching a TV show in elementary school and this commercial came on with the tagline for this dishwashing liquid and the tag line said, Women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans. Two boys from my class said yeah that's where women belong in the kitchen I remember feeling shocked Remember she is 11

2:21:24 and angry. Yes, another yes! This is fan- yes these stories about little girls that are shocked about stuff or said certain things we see this all the time these are all bullcrap stories well you're gonna love this one this is a tale to tell being shocked and angry and also just feeling so hurt it just wasn't right and something needed to be done I went home and told my dad what had happened. And he encouraged me to write letters So, I did To the most powerful people that I could think of Now my 11 year old self worked out that if i really wanted someone to hear me Well then I should write a letter to the first lady! So off I went scribbling away to our first lady at the time Hillary Clinton

2:22:29 Also, put pen to paper and I wrote a letter to my news source at the time Linda Ellerby who hosted a kids news program. I love Linda Ellerby And then... To powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred Woo! Because even at 11, I wanted to cover all of my bases Of course Finally, I wrote to the soap manufacturer and a few weeks went by and to my surprise I received letters of encouragement from Hillary Clinton, from Linda Ellerbe and from Gloria Allred. Yes! It was amazing. Princess The kids news show they sent a camera crew to my home to cover the story and it was roughly a month later when the soap manufacturer Procter & Gamble changed the commercial for their ivory clear dishwashing liquid

2:23:33 They changed it from women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans to people all over America. It was at that moment that I realized the magnitude of my actions At the age of 11, I had created my small level of impact by standing up for equality. Oh man she's gonna be a force to reckon with! Diana 2.0! What an old crap story how does eleven-year-old know or even care about Gloria Allred? Are you kidding me?! Well maybe she's from a spook family... Maybe that's how it worked i don't know

2:24:23 Yeah, whatever. I like it! I like her international studies and she's got the whole- got to write everything yeah and she looks the part so does he and they'll be great there'll be all over the world floating around Mr. & Mrs Smith its the new hot couple I think they're going too far outstrip uh what's his face Wills and Kate oh yeah no no their will and Kate they are they got their job, which is to become the next king and queen or whatever she becomes. I'm not sure but this other guy here he's a freelancer you can go out and do whatever he wants him either the likelihood of him ever becoming King or even being something has to worry about his nil it was like fifth or fifth i think in succession well i think she i think she's got Angelina's job there at the UN although you know she was high representative for refugees

2:25:18 Well, Angelina kind of blew herself up. Yeah she did. I think they had to take her off the beat. Yeah. I wonder who her handler's going to be? We'll find out soon enough. The handler will see whoever the handler is way too often. I think i asked if there was a vaccine for hepatitis A. Yeah? Is there a vaccine yeah, I think so because I didn't know...I thought once you got hepatitis A you're dead it's over no no you're not dead you can get yours is curable oh it is curable okay well the vaccines well this there's a couple of things about vaccines and the vaccines are short-lived one is something that's

2:25:59 It's only in situations where you're exposed. Yeah, well listen to it. Listen to it. Hepatitis A is a liver infection that is highly contagious. It's caused by a virus that creates inflammation and impairs liver function. It can be spread many ways including ingesting even a small amount of contaminated fecal matter eating food handled by someone with the virus who didn't wash his or her hands drinking contaminated water, eating raw shellfish from polluted waters. Having sex with someone who has the virus. Symptoms don't appear until after you've had the virus for a few weeks and include low-grade fever fatigue nausea

2:26:38 vomiting, abdominal pain, clay color bowel movements dark urine and joint pain. Not everyone with the condition develop symptoms there's no specific treatment and your body will clear the infection in a few weeks if you've been exposed to the virus the hepatitis A vaccine may protect you from infection within two weeks of contact hand-washing and avoiding infected people are key to prevention There are five types of hepatitis A through E. Each causes some form of liver problems unlike B or C, Hepatitis A does not cause chronic liver disease and is rarely fatal. You know all these vaccines that don't really work is getting on my nerves yeah I mean

2:27:24 I mean, we've talked about the latest flu. I don't think it's a vaccine. It is some preventative thing like maybe a gamma-bomb. Well then they shouldn't call it a vaccine then? Well just like the vaccine to stop smoking! How does that make sense?! They're using the word too loosely. The flu vaccine for this year is Hose. How many times have we heard this? Yeah, wrong strain or something went wrong. It's not effective." Well here you go! U.S health officials say they're bracing for a devastating flu season and they worry that the flu shot might not help this year only 10% of flu vaccines were effective in Australia That is according to a study published by the New England Journal of Medicine And it also found that the shot was most ineffective against influenza A

2:28:06 which is historically the most dangerous. Dr Anthony Fousey told WTOP quote, what happened in development of the vaccine as we grow it in eggs the virus itself mutated a bit so that there was almost an accidental mismatch purely on the basis at the virus trying to adapt itself to growing and eggs that's what happened in Australia and it is likely that's what we're going to see here. Last year, US flu shots were 34 percent effective according to the study and while the outlook looks more grim this year Dr Fauci says Americans still need to take time to get vaccinated The CDC estimated flu vaccines save 40 thousand lives between 2005-2014 It doesn't work but get your shot anyway stupid slaves And now my favorite

2:28:58 Sanofi Pasteur, they have asked for health authorities to update information provided to physicians and patients about its dengue fever vaccine. Dengue Vaxia and this is what is known as a label update which means you'll never hear about it based on... This is from their official document Based on up to six years of clinical data, the new analysis evaluated long-term safety and efficacy of Dengavaxia in people who had been infected with dengue prior to vaccination and those who had not.

2:29:35 The analysis confirmed that Dengvaxia provides persistent protective benefit against dengue fever in those who had prior infection. For those not previously infected by the dengue virus, however, the analysis found that in the longer term more cases of severe disease could occur following vaccination upon a subsequent dengue infection." What? Well, basically on the base theory of vaccinations that doesn't make any sense at all. But it's also not a great message hey if you want this dengue fever vaccine and you've never had dengue fever you might get really horrible dengue fever! Yeah sounds like a thing to avoid luckily it's not required anywhere No but I'm surprised I mean I think this is big news

2:30:34 Yeah, well let me see. Let me turn on the TV and see if they're talking about it." I don't think so no isn't they're not talking about it Pick this up today Kathy Griffin sold her or Hollywood Hills home for point nice place very nice place very famous It's famous there upon the yeah the hills 4.49 million dollars like do you think she needed the money? I don't think so. I think it's nonsense that she is making good money touring internationally. She sure seems to be bitching about it. Kathy Griffin, bitching? Huh! Okay, I got one for you This is the Hawaiian Airway- Air Raid Alert Listen to this shorty Oh why isn't that playing Across Hawaii today a blast from the past

2:31:37 Warning sirens in paradise they blared in Hawaiian cities and villages for the first time since the end of the Cold War It was just a test response to the threat of an attack from North Korea. Really? No, did they really do that just a test because of North Korea now that's fear-mongering That's terrorism right there. I agree. That's not okay Oh douchebags Well, Hawaii is doing what we predicted would happen. The Honolulu Police Department has issued an order for medical marijuana users to surrender their firearms and I have a copy of a letter that looks pretty official

2:32:23 November 13th, dear Mr. and Redacted this letter is to inform you that under the provisions of the Hawaii revised statutes section 134-7a You are disqualified from firearms ownership possession of controlling firearms your medical marijuana use Disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition Hrs. 134 7 dot 3 seizure firearms upon disqualification if you currently own or have any firearms You have 30 days upon receipt of this letter to voluntary surrender your voluntarily Surrender your firearms permit and ammunition to the Honolulu Police Department Or otherwise transfer ownership a medical doctor's clearance letter is required for any future Firearms applications, or return of firearms from 8 from HPD evidence there you go

2:33:14 Yeah, that's a test case. It'll be everywhere. Luckily the recreational laws will transcend the problem. What do you mean? Well because you're not going to be registered. You don't go into a shop by a bunch of people. Ah if it's recreational. Good point good point But when you have to register and get your permission it's not gonna work Can they do that though is that something that... States can do whatever they want pretty much All right I got my last clip I have a couple of clips here, but I'm going to play this one the last. We're on time. I know isn't it beautiful? Okay this is the weird now there's a lot of... This was a freelance story that ran on local TV. I don't know what the point of it was has got nothing to do with the Bay Area that I know of and it's a story about pot in Minnesota

2:34:13 Health officials in Minnesota have added autism spectrum disorders to the list of conditions that qualify for medical cannabis. Fox reporter Iris Perez spoke with two mothers who say their son's lives change for the better thanks to medical marijuana You see that all the time. Oh yeah, we do." Heather Tidd and her 13-year old son TJ flip through a chapter of life that for eight years was difficult to grasp. Pre cannabis TJ had really difficult time reading She adopted TJ when he was four. At 10, he was diagnosed with Tourette's. School was horrible I had to quit my job and pick him up several times a week By the time TJ was 11 Heather had tried it all until 2015 when she was certified to treat TJ with medical cannabis Previously we had the police at our house every day We have holes in walls He was trying hurt himself and others

2:35:04 that all ended immediately. We have not had the police here since." That life change is one Victoria Grancowicz also attests to, we tried everything else Iris and nothing else stopped the self-injurious behavior and the aggression that we were seeing every day for a year her 14 year old son Julian suffers autism and a seizure disorder now is how we got him qualified for medical cannabis this was This was Julian in January before he started taking medical cannabis. He was giving himself black eyes, we couldn't stop it It was his way of crying out in pain but these are snapshots of Julian now This is the first time in my child's life I'm truly seeing him pain free and I am seeing my child thrive

2:35:48 Victoria and Heather represent only two moms relieved to learn autism is now a condition Minnesota considers eligible for the alternative treatment. Within a year he went up three grades in his reading abilities Treatment that leads them away from stories of pain and has them now flipping onto pages of joy People with autism will have an opportunity To become successful because of this choice Well, I can't argue any of that Of course not But why are they running this story? And this is where did it run the story TV you local? Local drug Bay Area's I got Oakland. Yeah, and this is a story out of Minnesota Lisa per Iris Perez is the reporter and she's a local reporter in Fox 9 in Minnesota somewhere hmm, and I and she put this package together obviously as a

2:36:46 With an eye to be a syndicator or something. I don't know why It's just baffling to me by the stories got any you know, it's a local story from Minnesota Well near the Tourette's thing is true and Miller it certainly helps it really does It just makes it very difficult to do television appearances when your stone But otherwise it helps with the Tourettes there was a lot of people stoned on TV from the looks of it No clip but final story Maybe you can help out. I think we can the courage of where our consulting group is available for this type of service President Trump's staff complain of cockroach mice and ant Infestations at the White House ants yeah, I wondered about this story because it came out to get a lot of play

2:37:32 I wouldn't be surprised if it was true, but it seemed like just a kind of slam because Trump called the place a dump supposedly. I don't believe that either so I don't know if this is real story or not but could be! It's a big place an old big old place and yeah was built you know like a long time ago and it could be filled infested with all kinds of stuff well for sure we'll be playing our favorite ant song can learn what to do and what not to do. I don't think they have Argentinian ants in Washington, D.C., I think they got those big boys. Ah! But you still gotta kill the right one? I'm not sure how it works with those other ants. Maybe you could do a little study so we can pitch our services. Somebody should send me out there on a lark... Alright everybody, eyes open it is show day You never know what could happen

2:38:30 Because crazy stuff does happen from time to time. Indeed! And I am coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas. It is the capital of the drone star state. I'm in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo. It is FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps if you're looking for it In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley... and by the way there's a big giant moon floating around If you get to see it tonight will be your last shot at it. We return on Thursday remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA until then as always Adios, mofos.

2:39:56 I... They do call me Auntie Maxine. I embrace that, and love that! I'm gonna be there, auntie! I am sitting here... I don't hear you! I was in the legislature, I was in the state house... I've been to hell!

2:40:55 The fact of the matter is I don't read everything, etc. etc., all of that... I think- I really do believe and i want you to know I've said and I also said I will go and take Trump out tonight! That's that! Okay so now I can buy $100 worth of Bitcoin Boom They're gonna take it out of my bank account I'm

2:42:53 I got ants.

2:44:32 I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion. Uh, I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to a powder like a fine-grind black pepper... We were having dinner and uh Yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal And I ate it These things are peppery. I got ants. I Got ants These ants, they don't need a lot. And then you see all the ones that are roaming around and go like back them off by doing the burning trick. Just torch them. And you leave him there. The only ant... There are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back I got ants!

2:45:44 I got ants. Ants? Oh my god! The best podcast in the universe! Audio, mofo... Dvorak dot org slash N A Oh my god