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00:00 Uh, Benal... Toled... Apalila... Um. The bone? El-Oleed Bin Talal Yeah! Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday November 9th 2017 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode Niner Eight Zero This is no agenda Upgrades to our experience and broadcasting live from downtown Austin Tejas in the capital of drone star state in the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I got this see a very interesting sight a few minutes ago. I'm John C Devorah It must be

00:39 Zephyr related yes, it is gee why do I think that all right? What was your unusual sight John they had three private cars hooked to the end of this zephyr ooh nice And one of them was not kind of a nondescript, like a Midwestern car. The other two were both the original California Zephyr cars dome cars. The first one was a normal car and this last car and the whole Zephyr was a very famous private coach which is the originals that It's not like a complete idiot. Yes, that's okay original the original observation car Wait this is when we saw the picture of yeah? Yeah, oh it's a beautiful car actually Oh gorgeous well Next we talk about my ham gear yeah and then comic books Welcome to the best podcast in the universe ladies gentlemen back to a normal show feels good

01:44 I don't know about that. Well, it started off rough this morning as uh... Now you told me Windows doesn't do this but on the Mac if you start up Skype just you know hey i'm just going to start Skype up because I want to use it all of a sudden we've upgraded your experience and everything's different The whole interface is different, how you get to the audio video settings is different. It had changed my audio video settings! Yeah, that's the bad part. Who thinks this is a good idea? Well you know they used to do that with Windows but nowadays it asks you if we've got a great new Skype! Do you want to use it and then you have a choice. It says no thanks I'll check it out later But don't they say upgrade your experience? Don't they? I don't know what the exact wording is but you can just say no

02:40 Well, I can't wait because my gear was supposed to come yesterday. My new computer my Windows computer cuz as you know I'm in transition. I'm transitioning your transitioning. I am transitioning to windows It's a scary thing very disappointing to a lot of the Mac people out there Yeah well the Mac has become very disappointing and chase if everybody with their iPhone 10 is I've really, you know. I've always gotten the new gear. I've always liked it some...I don't know what it is why do I have an antipathy now? To the iPhone 10? Yeah maybe Apple in general! I don't know what it is Maybe they weren't out there welcome. Maybe the magic has faded that's my guess from The Missing Circle The magic died although the X is important too It's just that x should be IN a circle. Maybe there's no circle. I'm not drawn to it No circle

03:33 Yeah, any word on that surface phone yet cuz that's the one I want There's no word it probably be 2020 damn doing Microsoft operates All right It'll be a big surprise when they do it. Yeah, I wanted to start off with the bailout What's that? Maybe little bail out they had all kinds of cool initiatives and maybe that giant surface device in the folding laptop That was like a book Well, as long as they... I think they should continue the Surface line. But I opted not to get that it's just too expensive It's just crazy $3,000 for a moderately sized screen thats touchscreen sure but Yeah well you can put a machine together cheaper than that yeah i got an Alienware Oh! Alienware is good stuff Yeah and I think they're made in Texas? They are made by Dell For Texas there ya go Yea its nice I like those

04:33 Alright, I wanted to start with a little deconstruction regarding the president in Korea. His trip there... Do you have anything on his Korea trip? Uh, I don't have any clips or anything. I do have a couple of cli- No not- Yes! I do. Oh okay. Uhh.. I have the uh... Yeah Let me see. No, go ahead if I have some of it... You have worst ABC North Korea background checks is that not? Yeah this is a different kind of story This is one of the worst One of the worse ABC reports which includes two stories they somehow combined just so they can get a little needle in on Trump Okay And I'd rather play it later Oh okay we can do that later Well as you know news media does left and right CNN and Fox If we just want to call out the universes

05:29 They always gotta make fun of the guy. And in this case, uh... they were very wrong and stupid- stupidly wrong. Uh there was a lot of bitching about oh he could- Oh! He had to promote his golf course! What a douche what a dick move You saw this I presume? Yeah yeah i saw that Let me play the clip for a second. And Korean golfers are some of the best on earth In fact, and you know what I'm going to say. The women's US Open was held at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster New Jersey

06:22 It just happened to be won by a great Korean golfer, Sung Hyun Park. And eight of the top 10 players were from Korea and the top four golfers 1 2 3 4 The top four were from Korea Congratulations Now, everybody just fell over themselves to condemn the president for doing this. But I happen to know because my uncle was ambassador in South Korea that there are a couple of things that are very important to the Koreans and golf is bigger than NASCAR for them and the fact they're winning, that they have huge pros it's like a 15 billion dollar industry in Korea

07:14 And they really, really love this. And in fact if you listen to the applause it wasn't just polite they were really like, oh yeah! I think he did a really good thing here He really endeared them by saying hey i get your culture and it happened again this time on Fox with another thing So Trump did one of the most trump things ever when he went and ate with the Prime Minister of Japan instead of ordering Sushi or tempura some of the best food you could ever have over in Japan. The man orders a well-done cheeseburger Yes, and he locally sourced it the beef was from America apparently He's got the Heinz ketchup over there so well done

07:56 Mr. President, I agree with him on that you do yeah this is how we order what you want where you are it's better for your dad yes not a single one of these people no they're all retards What a moronic bunch. Do they know nothing? By the way, I love that clip you should start off all your clips with a bunch of laughter. Just a bunch of laughter! Adding kind of a stupidity to the clip that is pretty hard to otherwise catch. The beef... Where's the beef? One thing more important than golf in South Korea is their beef. They were talking about him when he was in Japan

08:40 Oh, fuck me. I'm sorry. I thought there was Korea! Wow... then my whole thing is no good. I mean it's- Nah, I don't think this is the same. Well let me tell you what I was gonna say and then you can tell me how it's still valid Nothing is more important than golf and beef in Korea. That's all I was gonna say, particularly American beef It may be-I don't know if there's a thing with Japan with the beef? No, no. I feel stupid. The Japanese have their own beefs thing. Yeah, I feel stupid But they do have McDonalds though and they have beef. I feel stupid! The Japanese... well you shouldn't because it's actually there is a better point to make Okay Which is that I've noticed this, the Japanese like to uh when they come over here

09:20 They like to, there's another train going by very slowly. Looks like they're bringing the Zephyr but no it's a different train. There's the thing about the Japanese and I've told this story before on The Show and I'm gonna tell it again. The Japanese try to make the point that You can eat your own food when you're in Japan, in hopes that you will allow them to eat their own food when they're visiting the United States. Because the tendency is to give them big steaks... take him to Luger's and give him steaks that make him sick for a month. Did he say Hooters? Luger's! Peter Luger's

10:03 to, it's funny what you're hearing. Because they get sick they can't they don't have the right enzymes because they don't eat enough beef and then they'll be out of commission it's an American trick American businessman's trick to always take Japanese businessmen who you want to take out of the negotiations to these steakhouses. You'll be puking all night bro! They'll be sick as a dog for about a month so when you go to Japan If it's some official sort of a group, they try to encourage you to have American food there and you have to ask asked to eat the Japanese food. You almost got to float around by yourself as a tourist yeah you do whatever you want but if you're in a group you're always guided away and then the message is what I just said which is they would like the same ability to hear. Well in other words, Curry swings and misses and divorce!

11:01 So it's fine what would happen. It's not a big deal, like these guys are making it out to be because oh they have the best sushi and who thinks everybody in the world eats sushi? Yeah we all remember Bush 1 puking in the Prime Minister's lap Yeah, you don't want that. And the Japanese are fearful that can happen at any moment because most Americans... I doubt that half the Americans in this country have ever had a piece of sushi. Oh, that's possible. It doesn't even sound right for some people. What? Raw fish! Nah! The CDC is going back to North Korea for a moment or Korea

11:51 The CDC is on top of their game. They're spending money This is the, you know they are... CDC. They're supposed to take care of us You know whenever something bad is going on and they have a new version of duck and cover which is now meant for the millennial generation And this has put out now probably coincidentally with all the fear about North Korea's killing us with a nuclear weapon If a radiation emergency happens in your area This isn't whole animated video You can protect yourself your loved ones and your pets No matter where you are, the safest action to take immediately after a radiation emergency is to get inside. Stay inside and stay tuned.

12:43 Several producers are experts in this field and they say really the best thing to do is to go away in the opposite direction from The blast zone as quickly as possible, as far as possible. Do not go indoors and sit there and listen what they- what the CDC tells you to do you dumb slaves If you are outside, or in a car, bus or other vehicle get inside of building right away. Cars do not provide good protection from radiation outside. If you have pets bring them inside with you if you can for food

13:20 Radioactive material settles on the outside of buildings, like dust or mud. So the best thing to do is stay either in the basement... ...or as far away from walls and roof as you can. Close and lock all doors, windows & fireplace dampers. And turn off fans, air conditioners,... ..and forced-air heating units that bring air in from the outside. Once you are inside, stay tuned for updated instructions! Television, radio and social media may be used to share more information. Remember immediately after a radiation emergency the safest action for yourself your loved ones and your pets is to get inside stay inside and stay tuned!

14:08 This is bad advice. That's bad advice the best thing to do is and they should say get in your car turn on recirculation yeah which is the button on the air conditioner that recirculates the air so it doesn't bring an outside air and drive, drive, drive yes as fast as you can go Yeah This is dumb. Yeah, I don't know how they came up with that and why is this even being played? Why are they trying to scare the public who's bombing who well you were alive when duck and cover was in schools You know it's a similar thing. It's the same little kids hey and by the way Millennials Don't have cars as a problem Thank You DC girl good good call troll room Good call yeah, they'd have ducking covered and don't look at the flash oh

14:54 Get on your bike as soon as possible, you hipster and go in the opposite direction. Geez! Now is it time for your ABC Korea clip? Well they... The clip is really about the um... It's about okay this is one of the worst... ABC has really lost its head writers or something because this they decided to combine two stories that are totally unrelated Two completely unrelated and they combine them into one for no apparent reason. Let's play this.

15:43 North Korea to come to the table and make a deal that's good for the people of North Korea and the people of the world. I do see certain movement, yes but let's see what happens." Quite a shift for the president who not long ago said this... fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before. While he continued to boast about America's military dominance he acknowledged war would be bad for everyone we have many things happening that we hope we hope affect

16:23 I'll go a step further. We hope to God we never have to use." Jonathan Karl with us tonight from Seoul and John, the president in Asia of course dealing with North Korea there but also the mass shooting here at home and John when it comes to this suspect despite that domestic violence conviction that escape from a mental facility the president insisting that extreme vetting would not have worked? Yeah David you heard him say it but the bottom line is there are bipartisan calls in Congress to strengthen the background check system including John Cornyn, a prominent Republican in the Senate saying that he wants a new law strengthening the current background check system. David? Jonathan Kahl reporting on the president's trip in Asia Jon are thanks to you and there are also major developments of the Russia investigation That is very strange

17:11 And then he wraps it, he wraps it saying here's John Carl reporting on an Asian trip. So what has that got to do with this shooter in Texas? Nothing! That is very odd... Why are they doing- I don't even know why I'm asking you there's no reason, no rhyme or reason No this could was to me one of the worst jobs of reporting ABC has ever done by combining these two stories. I don't get it They have the reporter that's reporting the Asian story and they're asking him about background checks It almost feels like a paragraph got messed up in the prompter? No, he asked them to question... It does have that but then if that's true Yeah strange If that's true

17:57 Then John Carl is one of the best field reporters in history. Yeah, because he had... He didn't miss a beat answering the question about background checks. Could be. Even though he's reporting from Korea By the way update we really need to get the Curry Dvorak consulting group over to the CDC Because obviously it should be call an Uber that's what the Millennials do yeah they call an uber or get your bike share You know so it's in San Francisco. They have all these Ford bikes Ford as in the I gotta take a picture of this right as in four trucks Yeah, is the big rack of bikes that you pay at you and little guess? I don't know if you pay $1 I don't know what to put procedures was one of these rent-a-bikes And there's a rack of about I don't know we got him here. There's the New York They're called city bikes and yeah no they have those too. Oh But these are Fords hmm

18:55 And every bike has the Ford logo on it. And it's like, why is Ford doing this? It just makes zero sense to me and I don't know what they cost but these other bikes like City and some of these other bikes that are borderline free where you pay a quarter or something cheap people are leaving them all over the place like they did in China there's a big we did this story about yes I remember you know In Austin it seems to be working Well, in the Bay Area it's not. It's Californians you're not polite You don't put your bike back well they do put it back if you call in the middle of into the top of a tree back but It said but these Ford bikes I'm gonna take this so weird. Yeah, just hmm Well, it seems like someone bought into some advertising scam Promoting cars not bikes. No it's the new Ford John

19:48 The new Ford, the friendlier Ford. And forget that it's Chevy Truck Month! Thank you very much Country Music Awards. Did you notice that its always Chevy Truck Month? It is well at Country Music Awards last night and a big big sponsorship by Chevrolet. Did you watch those awards was anything good was any guy... I have to..I well yeah they did a lot about the Vegas victims and they showed that collage photo of the victims. They did something generally interesting, which is instead of... Well they did have one kind of full-length dead people segment Which I was surprised to learn that Tony Martell and Sandy Gallen had passed away And now both of them. I was like oh, pfft! Didn't get the memo

20:30 And so Carrie Underwood was singing but throughout the evening they would have different bands perform and they would do a song by dead person who had written the song. And the funniest bit was when Little Big Town won for best song of the year which is really recognition for the writer And it was, it's almost like they were embarrassed because... and I should have clipped it actually. You know the award goes to... I forget what the name of the song was... Taylor Swift! And you could see everyone going like, huh? What? Whoa whoa what? She wasn't there first of all and then they came up and said yeah Taylor Swift wrote this song So she deserves all the credit but he could tell that we're feeling uncomfortable

21:19 Oh, the Taylor Swift thing is completely out of control. This is very good I want to say that I am a little bit from the future on this Yeah you kind of called us earlier Kind of! But they... Well you didn't call years ago I have a clip Of yourself? No, I have a clip of the controversy. The American Civil Liberties Union has issued a letter calling out Taylor Swift after her lawyers threatened to blog her with a lawsuit. The piece published on a site called Popfront drew connection between the Call It What You Want singer and the alt-right movement It was written by the site's executive editor, Megan Herning who argued that Swift's music has included alt-right language and symbolism. The post also critiqued Swift decision not to publicly endorse a candidate in the 2016 election Now the ACLU is involved representing Herning and posting a cease and desist letter sent by Swift lawyer William J Briggs calling for the posts removal

22:11 Briggs asserts the singer has no obligation to broadcast her political views, telling Herning, The fact that her political views are not public enough for your taste does not give you the authority to presume what her political opinions may be or that her political views correlate to the support of white supremacy. Briggs also insisted that Swift unequivocally denounces white supremacy and the alt-right." This story has taken off and it's no different from what we played from that stupid entertainment podcast when we first identified what was going on with Taylor Swift And if you read this blog post, which is very long but it's in the show notes at 980.noagendanotes.com The author is taking her video Ripping it apart and saying all you see this thing over here that's clearly a little nudge-nudge wink-wink towards white supremacists and we're connecting the dots

23:04 I'm... distressed by this. This is a 20, what's she 26? 27? This is just like you know- I won't say that she's not talented and genius and successful but Well you can say she's not talented But genius and successful for sure She's talented but then you know this is wrong! It says just wrong what's happening There was some very good- I'm defending TayTay Team TayTay There's a very good editorial in today's I think it's today's Washington Post. Yeah that talks about The new feminism is really ugly and they cite this this Taylor Swift episode, and they have the checklist They say if you if Taylor Swift is considered to be everything bad because she won't denounce Trump right That was the top reason we identify all it is yeah

23:54 And then they said that today's feminists say if you don't denounce Trump, you're not a feminist no matter what you say. Yes. It is actually well written it has all the real definitions and all of that I'll put that in the show notes but i saw variety write about it USA Today write about it And at the same time she's got her campaign is in full gear. She's selling a magazine with her CD and he's got a new she had a new album hitting Dropping dropping is drop I said you notice how I said hitting now You see it's gotta drop baby. She's got a new album coming out so that will be when by the way What's wrong with saying coming out of new album coming out? Why why say dropping because that's cultural appropriation at its best

24:41 And it comes from the hip-hop world. So, it seems like there's a lot of this publicity probably benefiting her? Yeah and also she has I think a TV channel on U-verse which is coming Yeah, we're an Oprah. Yeah, that'll be a bus I don't know about that no do not Doubt the power of the Tay-Tay. I doubt the power of the of these TV networks Let's go since we're talking real news yeah, let's jump to the latest on Kevin Spacey well first because And now back to real news. This is the ABC? No, you gotta save that as a second clip. All right The first clip is more Kevin Spacey allegations. Ooh yes. Okay. Hold on where are we? Yeah boom shut up A distraught mother of former Boston TV News anchor today accused actor Kevin Spacey of sexually assaulting her

25:38 her son. Heather Unruh says her son did not report it at the time because he was ashamed we cautioned her story includes graphic details here's Jerica Duncan Actor Kevin Spacey has sexually assaulted my son. At a news conference in Boston today, Heather Unruh described what she says Kevin Spacey did to her son at the Club Car restaurant on Nantucket in July of 2016 when he was 18 years old. Kevin Spacey bought him drink after drink after drink And when my son was drunk, Spacey made his move. Spacey stuck his hand inside my son's pants and grabbed his genitals." She says Spacey left the table and a random stranger came to her sons aide.

24:41 And it comes from the hip-hop world. So, it seems like there's a lot of this publicity probably benefiting her? Yeah and also she has I think a TV channel on U-verse which is coming Yeah, we're an Oprah. Yeah, that'll be a bus I don't know about that no do not Doubt the power of the Tay-Tay. I doubt the power of the of these TV networks Let's go since we're talking real news yeah, let's jump to the latest on Kevin Spacey well first because And now back to real news. This is the ABC? No, you gotta save that as a second clip. All right The first clip is more Kevin Spacey allegations. Ooh yes. Okay. Hold on where are we? Yeah boom shut up A distraught mother of former Boston TV News anchor today accused actor Kevin Spacey of sexually assaulting her

25:38 her son. Heather Unruh says her son did not report it at the time because he was ashamed we cautioned her story includes graphic details here's Jerica Duncan Actor Kevin Spacey has sexually assaulted my son. At a news conference in Boston today, Heather Unruh described what she says Kevin Spacey did to her son at the Club Car restaurant on Nantucket in July of 2016 when he was 18 years old. Kevin Spacey bought him drink after drink after drink And when my son was drunk, Spacey made his move. Spacey stuck his hand inside my son's pants and grabbed his genitals." She says Spacey left the table and a random stranger came to her sons aide.

26:31 Unruh, a former news anchor tweeted her frustration on October 13th saying in part I was a Kevin Spacey fan until he assaulted a loved one. The Cape and Islands District Attorney's Office confirmed to CBS News that they have received information regarding allegations of indecent assault and battery police are now investigating Representatives for Spacey didn't return our request for comment. Unruh has a message for the Oscar-winning actor. When he hurts one person, he hurts all the people who love that person and he should be ashamed of himself I hope he feels real shame and at some point feels the heartache

27:20 Okay, so I have this other... This kid was 18. I believe right? So he shouldn't have been drinking anyway Right well that's turns out to be besides the point in the story There was another aspect of the story if you read variety some of these other trades The kid was starstruck with space any sure could have and and try to find a picture of him Try to find a picture of this 18 year old. Oh, it's not illegal opposed to picture of an 18-year I'll find his picture What does he look like interesting? You won't find it okay? I think I found one And I think that you can kind of get a little with this ABC report, which has got a little more in it than the CBS report. Which is really just negative reporting.

28:01 reporting, the ABC report gives us a little insight and listen carefully to what is said here. And you'll get it kind of a feeling for what might really have happened." She says Spacey insisted that her son go with him to a party then the actor left to use the bathroom. A concerned woman quickly came to my very shaken son's side and asked if he was okay she told him to run and he did. He ran as fast as he could all the way to his grandmother's house. She says he woke up his sister and together they called their mom nothing could have prepared my son for how that sexual assault would make him feel as a man it harmed him and it

28:51 A couple of things. One, why are both kids at grandma's house? Two evidence Those are two things. He ran and ran around to grandma's house now, did he get picked up or taken? I maybe took an Uber to this place so you didn't have time to call uber again So they didn't have a car. So he ran and ran around to grandma's house And then to get to call the mom he had to wake up his sister Yeah

29:35 Now, I don't know anything about this kid and i'm not going to make accusations but he seems like a very sensitive boy. Yes. Millennial. And I think Spacey saw him as gay and coming on to him and his little before-I-go-to-the bathroom grab-his-crotch thing was probably some sort of... Well that's gay for hate! Gay for hay. Yeah, it's gay for hay! It was a show title... I don't know about show title But the point is that this is ridiculous this story It IS ridiculous And where is the boy? How come the boy isn't there doing the news conference Why has mom taken care of all of this

30:21 Yeah, you're connecting the dots. And mom if you see a picture of Mom and her husband who looks rather Hollywood-ish probably produced just a very good looking boy let me say put it that way right okay so this story is very this is just now its gotten to the point I have thoughts about that I have thoughts about that but first I need to give you props I'm breaking the no Tucker rule. You were very, very right with your assessment of Spacey and the gay community." This was some Hollywood gay guy on Tucker's show.

31:09 the You were right.

31:53 Yeah, you were totally get it. I did get a note from one of our pipe maybe gay listeners I'm not sure you could can't we don't have any gay listeners plenty again sisters and wanted and this guy Berated me saying no does not the gaze occurs inside joke It's big is not the gaze in here then he sent me a clip of spacey yeah mocking the bohemian Grove In a in a part of the okay, Illuminati is trying to get rid of him That's what it is But it wasn't he was some other group It was it was clearly mocking the bohemian Grove and and this was after he had visited I guess He was a guest there for one of those summer encampments And I didn't like their didn't like it. You can't say but

32:43 He did this bit and he, so thus yes. He's claiming this Illuminati... You know I know a lot of these guys in the Bohemian Club and they're so far away from politics nowadays it's not even They just roll their eyes at this stuff. I just don't see this even being a remote possibility, and they have very little influence in Hollywood—none! Not compared to the gay community." Right. And so I'm sticking with my guns and I'm glad you brought this clip in so that kind of throws back on this guy who sent me the pushback. Well there is one additional theory which I am a little disturbed that you and I didn't figure it out...

33:23 And it's not the reason why the Hurricane Harvey Gates storm erupted, but who are the main people with very little evidence for seemingly innocuous crimes? At least in Spacey's case. We don't really know what happened It's a lot of you know he said she said yeah You just pointed out this is an odd story also the head of Amazon Studios I believe, as our producer pointed out to me that this may be being misused abused or used from the broadcast and film people but really broadcast to shame the video on demand people their biggest competitor. And they just got rid of a pretty big show

34:10 That's an interesting theory. It's no agenda thinking to the max and it would bring in the Reason that Woody Allen's name kept cropping back into the situation because he's done Amazon yeah, and he put up a phony baloney little TV thing there But it sucked so nobody was and and Jeffrey Tambor is now being accused of harassing a trans woman And that's another Netflix show Yeah Keep your eye on this I like. You're right, this is totally no agenda! Wow that's a great...that's a good one. I'm actually more inclined to-I think the gay thing is still valid and I think they are you know ganging up on him but I like this better. This is uh let me see I think it was Adam Barrett yeah producer Barrett and just read his note actually occasional producer listener

35:07 The first thing that struck me when the series of articles on Weinstein came out, the emphasis on its relationship with Netflix and Amazon. The emphasis yes Also why was this such a big deal? But every party involved went out of their way to do everything possible to cover the whole Jeffrey Epstein business It's a whole nother story Let me see what he puts here Hollywoods revenue is in decline I don't have the numbers at hand but i understand it's the worst year for revenue in very long time video demand Is being blamed Hmm well Oh yeah, to further recognize this open secret you only have to look at the actresses who were wholly compelled to thank Weinstein every opportunity and arguably the alignment to those... To these and those wrapped up in The Fappening. Ricky Gervais made a joke? Okay well that's not- Anyway I like the whole broadcast and theater versus Netflix and Amazon angle because it certainly seems that's what it's being used for

35:58 Maybe we have to analyze. I think you would have to do this properly We'd have to look at the unions and how much involvement they have with the video on demand because if it if the thing is going video On-demand, it's still money into the same coffers paramount 20th Century Fox and all these guys So they're not gonna be complaining about but not the spacey production That was not a big studio production as far as I know I'll thank you I don't know. We'd have to look into the... But, I like this whole theory. It's valid to look at it that way. I got a kick by the way out of it because I made this mention on the other show about what about the women who liked hanging out and having sex with Weinstein? Is always that kind of woman!

36:45 And so I just as I was saying that, I didn't make it clear. I didn't put in the news everybody could have. So I'm looking at again since I'm going through variety to read some of this trade stuff there's a picture on the online picture of guess who? Lindsay Lohan saying, I don't see why they're everyone's jumping all over Harvey they should let leave him alone stop now! Stop picking on Harvey Media Rights Capital. So that's one into that camp, right? Media Rights Capital MRC is the main production company and let's see what they do. They also are producing Ozark which is I think also an on demand House of Cards, House of Cards Ricky Gervais show or Ricky Gervais specialties careful Ricky Gervais you're next who else could be on the way

37:43 Let me see. Man, they produce a lot. Rita Rocks? Who's Rita Rocks- what's Rita Rocks I'm not familiar with that show... Okay! Well i think we should keep our eye on it. Yeah, I like that yeah yeah I liked it too okay well I think we covered that enough So the big, oh by the way the story that I don't have any clips for and that i think is like a meaningful in some funny way or other. And I think we touched on it where I know I talked about with Horowitz which is these new papers, the new version of the Panama Papers yeah but they're not the Panama, they're the Paradise Papers

38:33 Yeah, you know and I heard you in Horowitz talk about it. Actually didn't hear much of the show just heard it like in the opening and I figured ah! I don't have to worry about it John's got it covered so go There is nothing to get that's why I'm pre-apologizing Well I don't even know the basics of it Oh Well, the basics of it is this big law firm. It's similar to what happened in Panama. There was a company that specializes in hiding money and now there's a cut...this is a bigger one. This is a bigger company that specializes in hiding money for other people. Every one of these companies has about five or six of them I think worldwide. And where are they located?

39:10 These guys, I don't remember. They're in Cayman Islands or someplace. I'm not sure somebody in the chat room might know but they're not in Panama But there are one of these companies that specializes and so every one of these companies have their own group of clients which will always be different because the way I see it Somebody is hacking these guys one after the other and it's gonna happen once every year So the next hack will be next year with another one of these companies And so the hack comes out or the hack releases all these documents and people plow through it. One newspaper in particular leads the way of this German operation, then The New York Times Guardian and these other guys get it as part of some sort of a deal

39:55 And they all plow through it trying to figure out what's going on. They've deconstructed the Queen of England, for example uses these people. Oh surprise! Gee... And it shows how she hides money and it shows how everybody hides money but there is no- these guys are high end lawyers so there is no illegality so this story is kind of a fizzle Which is kinda the same with the Panama Papers It's not really a story there. It's just interesting, it's not like scandalous well it's scandalous and interesting it's not illegal or anything like that but it really makes you wonder why these guys have all these they do deals with people they're not supposed to deals with so they run through these operations these fake companies that own each other and this is a massive breach of

40:41 of bigger names and you can look it up on, look at Paradise Papers in the Wikipedia. And there's a number of the major players listed and I got nothing. There's nobody would none of the networks made a big deal out of it because half of them are doing it. It seems to be something that they just referred to now like well as we know from the from the from the Paradise Papers guys rotten! You know thats how its kind of referred too Yeah...I find it somewhat distressing I mean the IRS makes such a big deal about middle class tax returns and meanwhile they have this going on, and they have the scammers going out. They're just ripping off the public to tune of billions of dollars by filing false returns and then having their money sent to a credit card. The scam is quite interesting it's you can go to Target and buy these blank credit cards

41:41 And then you load them up. You can charge it up with money Yeah, you can charge it up with money and you just use that number to so the IRS pays you directly for the false return I'm surprised that these elites who are so incredibly smart don't see this store of value that Bitcoin clearly is and Yeah, like ABC now he's just changing the topic. I cannot I can't believe that they're not all buying bitcoin It's a great storm value better than gold why aren't the smart people doing that? So anyway, that Paradise Papers I've got nothing. There's no good stories and then I can clip there's nothing to talk about except individuals and it's so what? Just calling back to the Weinstein thing look for revelations from Handmaid's Tale because that would be Hulu Look for revelations from Orange is the New Black What are the other big shows

42:41 Handmaid's Tale Orange is the new Black House. Well, Handmaid's Tale wouldn't work because Hulu was owned by the television network so they're not going to bite themselves in the foot... shoot themselves in the foot. Well, no but if we were saying it's the Hollywood Studios Right? It would be out okay Maybe Yeah but I still think its about the outlet It has to be the perfect storm of video on demand and not a... That's Netflix and Amazon. So those are the two target companies. So who else do we have? The transparent would be the other one, which already happened. Yeah. So I'd be looking at Orange is the New Black, The Goldbergs, Man in the High Castle. How about Game of Thrones? There was that hot show that got the millennials. No how about Game of Thrones?

43:39 That's HBO, but that's a problem isn't it? No it's not. HBO has been around forever and this is not a problem. Okay no I'm thinking of that millennial show that says what's got some crazy name and everyone's raving about as the main one of the main winners on Netflix. Oh Stranger Things! Yeah Stranger Things yes Yes yes yes yes okay eyes open children at home that's right eyes open troll room trollroom eyes open Oh, great. I love it when we get a new theory! It's fantastic. Yes. This is something to do if you don't have enough theories Let me throw this at you...this just came through-I haven't had a chance to watch the whole half hour I just got a two minute clip right off the top talking about your feminist and your crazy nut job BBC Hard Talk had Kathy Griffin on yes i saw that did you first let's talk about

44:40 What about the hair? Did you see her hair?! Yeah, I did. It's gone! Yeah, she cut her hair off. It looks horrible! She's got this kind of a clipped look. No, it doesn't... She actually looks older. She looks like an- I don't know what she doesnt' look right? She looks like after they shaved the girls heads if they were Nazi collaborators after Second World War That's what she looks like. I'm sorry to use that metaphor. With more makeup. With more makeup. I just wanted to play this just to hear how incredibly insane She is. Remember, nothing would have happened to her. Nothing would have happened to her job. Nothing would happen if she hadn't done this. So ultimately it's up to her that things happen and you take a risk as a public person no matter what you do but now Trump Kathy Griffin welcome to Steve

45:29 Your stand-up show, which you're currently taking around the world. Yes! It's funny and it's frank but to many people it is also shocking and to some its offensive And I wonder whether you carefully calculate how to offend? I do. I'm an expert at offending people. I've offended you just in the makeup room alone because first of all I can't believe someone married you What... what is this?! So she's she's an asshole not funny I'm not quite sure why that's funny. She talks like she is coked up Thank you, yes good point But good luck to her Anyway when i took that photo one of the things that struck me was people actually were saying it was a severed head So what I'd like to talk about in my act is I make a joke of it as if went into the severed head store That is hilarious Doesn't exist so the outrage It doesn't exists? I am disappointed who knew

46:24 So the outrage is faux, in my opinion. What is this faux? Since when do we use faux instead of fake? What is that I don't know it's funny that you put you noticed it because yeah, you're right the people using fo all the time even though. I think it's a reference to cuz everyone likes pho or far for which is the Vietnamese ah super noodles yes noodle soup fall I think it's called puffer Actually, there was a there's a recent I go tell you how this pronounced fa really and man I'll say that because there was a recent show on the Food Network And they had this Vietnamese guy owned one of the top restaurants and he says you pronounce it fa. Okay You know don't pronounce it fuff but no wait It's fun to have a gif of some fa right here

47:18 Alright, so she's rude and she's not funny and then she's gonna go off on him. Is faux in my opinion And I am you know? I don't have one single day of paid work ahead of me in my own country In your own country no less! Because of the reaction you mean Well let's get to that in a minute but let's start with the reaction Let's start with the action I thought I was the guest What is that?! If someone had said that to me and I made you be like, no way. Play that back again? I missed that. Yeah So he interrupts her incredibly interesting story. Let's start with the reaction let's start with the action i thought i was the guest but really let's do this your way well don't man explain to me Don't you mansplain to me come on this is she's ill

48:06 I mean, mansplaining sure is a thing. That was not mansplaining! You're in a faux environment lady. Well she obviously is unfamiliar with this show too... Yeah but she's in a faux environment namely a television studio which is meant to look like you know a swanky space station type thing with monitors you're in a faux world girl and now he's mansplaining because he wants to run the interview the way he wants to run it? You're a guest and your guests do promote yourself I thought i was the guest but really let's do this your way. Don't mansplain me! Well, let's start with the action of choosing to go into the photographers studio yeah with that mask and that ketchup Let me just stop you and say one thing I will say this difficult is the photographer Tyler Shields has the copyright And I have no say in the copyright so I just have to say because I trusted him I kind of got screwed Blaming the photographer now

49:04 Okay, anyone but your fault Kathy have you met Hillary that he can make what however much money from that image which will sort of stand with me forever? I mean that is everywhere. I know and your biography and frankly your epitaph will probably be about the moment You decided to stand yes people at airports want me to do that post with their with that pose with their head That's where you should be making your money Cathy You should carry around a bottle of ketchup. That is a great idea! Yeah, I mean you could make millions doing that Hold on to their head with a little bit of ketchup around the throat and then you photoshop your body out because it would be fantastic. With that pose with their head and say I can't. She can't by the way that's bull crap He has a copyright he's got photographers copyrights very common she has right to her persona

49:56 She can do whatever she wants in that regard. She can't sell his photo, that's what she is talking about. She is not even explaining it correctly. She's not getting cut-in, that's her problem. He could make as much money working on... Well, she should have known better! Boy, she has been in the business forever and she should know how this works? I know how to work, because I don't do this. You know what, when you walked out of... When I went to the musical in Holland And there was only one way to get in and, you know... In fact I walked behind the photographers because I didn't want to walk on the faux red carpet where everyone's taking your picture. Because I just wanted to watch them. I didn't want it. It was just-I didn't wanna do it! So I get corralled You know like, ugh for the military... Okay so I do it and then all these guys they're not taking pictures of me with a backdrop that promotes the musical No they're taking close ups See? Your assholes. Then I walk off

50:51 You're just you're just gonna make money off of my close-up, and they're all gonna be crap oh Okay, they do make money. They can so if I take pictures of view yeah And I could put up a website and say you need a picture of Adam for our news story you can buy it from me for $15 one time use you can get more for if it's a nutty one Yeah, well you can get anything you want. You can get 200 or 300 bucks depends on who's selling it to. Apparently... But the guy whose picture is is he doesn't get anything! Sorry about this but apparently she shaved her head for a sister who died of cancer so another swing and miss

51:28 Sorry. Okay, well that'd be thematic it's fine. People at airports want me to do that pose with their head and I say... So as I posed the question in the introduction what were you thinking at that time? You must have known that you were crossing a line here Yes of course! That's a comedians job, that's what we do Is that a comedians job? John you happen know alot about comedians I don't know what a comedian's job is. Whose idea was it to take this picture of her holding out the head? I'm sure it was her. Was it the photographer's? No, it wasn't hers. It was her idea. I'm sure it was. Well then its her intellectual property! Its his photograph and being that is her intellectual property she can do the airport poses She just doesn't want to do them. No but she could make a bundle Of course That's a comedian job That's what we do If you don't cross the line well I like to move it and then cross it Then what are we doing

52:32 What am I gonna do, jokes about the differences between puppies and kittens? Yeah. I mean there's never been a president like this in history There has never been a president who deserved to be shamed so much Please refer to the show notes for the rest of this interview She is off the rails Sad really She is a victim She is toxic now No one will touch her Or touch her Yeah, that's bullcrap. She's gonna come back and do a big tour is gonna be filled with all these Taylor Swift haters They're all gonna go see her and it's going to be almost an all-female audience since you can make a shitload of money That's my side of the prediction Could be could be so the other thing that's kind of oh I got just a little entremont here How much should enlist this is was? Kramer Jim Kramer yeah on

53:29 in California at the, talking to Mark Benioff who we both know. He's from Salesforce? He is the guy CEO of Salesforce he is a billionaire now and unbelievably rich I don't think I can recognize him anymore he has kind of bulked out let say yeah and it was kinda nondescript actually but he did have something to say that interesting regards Our show, things in general that I've never heard this. It reminds me of Scott McNeely saying privacy is dead which he was probably true about in some ways even though it's something you're supposed to fight. Who was Scott McNeely? He ran Sun Microsystems and he said...

54:19 So let's try, listen to this and tell me if you... I want to discuss what you think of this. That's what Marriott is doing also they realize loyalty is dead They want to have this huge community of hundreds of millions of consumers map out where they are on their journeys and get all those consumers into those Marriott hotels walk in have a great experience Have your key right on your phone And welcome back to Marriott that's a customer experience That doesn't sound like just the loyalty program Loyalty is dead Okay, keep that thought. Because it's all about your community isn't that how you buy anyway from your friends? Yes Don't you want to join a community and be part of the community When I think about community when I could think about community I think about strategic partners I think about large companies that have figured this out I'm thinking about a new strategic partnership That you're going to announce today who is it well You're gonna see us do amazing new things with Google

55:13 And he goes on after that to talk about amazing new things, amazing new things here and there. I mean this is typical Silicon Valley guy. Yeah right? Now Kramer couldn't keep a straight face when he said loyalty is dead which is his basic thesis and it doesn't surprise me because it kind of flies in the face of everything but the more I thought about it you know he said loyalty is dead and community is where we're going to take over even though... I concur I do too. Because if you look at our community, and we've called it a community... It is a community! And they call themselves a community. Just look at what's going on in Michigan local number one. Yeah the meetups. Yeah they have meetups all the time. They had to cancel one recently. What's great about it when you say community which is really a community of interest, it can be anybody. We run the gamut of people

56:08 Locations, race, genders... everything. Which I think by the way is more typical of a genuine community because if you look at it like a town which is a community by definition there's not all bunch of the same people that don't look like each other It's a variety of people. They all live in that same town and our group I think is closest to a genuine community because we have every age group, we got kids, little kids, old people, military, police, teachers, lawyers everything. We should have a love-in

56:52 We shouldn't have a love affair. So I'm thinking about this and so far as what does it mean for everything because maybe loyalty was always weak, and these loyalty programs were all a gimmick Because I tell you the truth when I was like even renting cars it in. I used to be a big Emerald Club member and here's what happened so Emmerdon So the emerald club was a great deal, and I had all these Perks and it was what you said. You said it right there great deal is about the money It's not about the loyalty It's about them in fact it was oh, it was always about to do because when they change ownership They killed all lot of my old coupons and this whole thing was like weak I never very rarely rent from them Yeah So the loyalty thing tends to be yeah, you keep offering a lot of good deals And I think that may be true with Amazon What do you mean?

57:53 Well, Amazon really keeps you hooked because they got the outrageously good deal on shipping. Free shipping so that doesn't catch you. That's the number one reason? It's complete ease of use? Well I think it is one of many reasons but it is a number 1 reason and no taxes in many cases although its hard to pull off in places like California but there are a lot of stuff I buy at Amazon not paying tax on. And overnight delivery, unbelievable selection...it has all these benefits Somebody else came along with a better deal. Yeah, we don't all rush right over there I think so I think it's also availability of product. And, you know... I keep reading that Amazon is kicking Google's ass in search and what do you mean? When you go look at the details it's product search people go to Amazon more often and just type in whatever product they want. I find myself doing that! I do that all time. It makes so much sense. Well yeah good point. I think loyalty is dead if it ever existed

58:55 loyalty to your own pocketbook for sure, but the power of a community that's what I mean. Look at our 10th anniversary look at the communities that came together and compare it today for example And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C who can't believe today's spreadsheet Dvorak. And the morning to you, Mr Adam Curry in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs and the water and all the dames and knights out there yes and in the morning too Mike Riley who brought us the artwork for episode nine or seven niner that is Donna gate he did kind of the Carmen San Diego logo with san diego

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1:10:12 We're going into the alternate universe! It can hurt! Forward is going to be only America first. America first. We choose love you! There's Sparky, Sparky always- Oh hold on I just gotta look at the ground for a second it makes me nauseous that machine let me get a drink of water

1:10:50 That doesn't bother you? You don't get nauseous from traveling. I never get nauseous and i don't really necessarily get altitude sickness so, I think it's probably part of the same function No well I don't get altitude sickness but man does that transition really hurts all right we are now on the alternative yeah We're here but why? Tonight thousands of peoples in cities across the country will scream helplessly at the sky one year after the election of President Donald Trump. The events are being planned on Facebook in Dallas, Boston New York Miami Philly Austin and Washington State In the details section it reads quote rage rage against the dying of the light mark the one-year anniversary of the so called election to the so called president by joining the national primal scream howl at the sky gnash your teeth bang your drums and it goes on from there

1:11:37 there. The Dallas event starts at 6 tonight on the Continental Avenue pedestrian bridge, but as the Facebook page itself warns it will be 48 degrees and rainy outside. Matt Urich for CBS 11 News. Well that's our local news and here it is! Now wait for it. We've got some real big mouths in the crowd. There it is!

1:12:56 Now do you see why we're here? Yeah, I guess. Well, I didn't even know this was going on. I think I would have heard some where I'm located in the normal dimension. I think it would have heard some voices. I didn't hear anybody yelling and screaming It doesn't carry over only if you're a dog it doesn't carry over with people that's true but it was disturbing Were they screaming in Austin? Yeah, everywhere. Austin Dallas Houston yeah just but with their heads all places Texas yeah well we're pretty blue here you look at Dallas and Houston and Austin it's Democrats a lot of Democrats And so they're screaming in the sky that just this is another one of those things organized so you can meet girls

1:13:55 Yeah, did you see that Saturday Saturday night life skit no the called girl at a bar? No. Oh, so the girl is sitting at the bar and she's uh... And you know guy after guy comes in one guy has got a pussy hat on The other guys got You know like I'm with her T-shirt and you know it strikes up a conversation and then he says hey do you want to go home? And make out and says no bitch horrible bitch It just keeps going like that Like all these guys are there just to scam dates Yeah That's what it makes sense that guy yelling at top of his lungs and there was definitely trying to get attention

1:14:31 And you can go and you can also look and see what kind of screamers are there, the women wise. Because if somebody is one of those unbelievably screwy ones that seem insane, you know you don't have to go up to them. It's a good place for market research is what I'm hearing. Yeah. He's like okay, you're not on the list? Oh my goodness. Well let's get out of here! That's all I had. Are You Ready? Back.

1:15:29 Well, the Democrats didn't make a big deal about it. A lot of people are making bigger deals than others. But CBS had an election like yesterday. Can I ask you a question? This was gubernatorial. It was state elections in certain states, gubernatorial and representative. I have a linguistic question. Why is it the governor of the state but yet it's the gubernatorial election? I don't know why does the V convert to a B there's a joke in there somewhere and I cannot come up with the life for me wasn't meant as a joke I'm just trying to figure it out but there is a joke in never understood that

1:16:16 Well, you could say gubernatorial. Somebody will do it go to phrase from the Shays will go into the gubernatorial discussion. Okay but there's a lot of the Democrats definitely have made hay with their identity politics oh yeah because they their claim to fame on all their people that they elected were just I would say diverse group this is Diversity in Democrat elections. To the Capitol, thank you Nancy! Across the country the 2017 election saw big wins for a highly diverse group of candidates. Chip Reid introduces us

1:16:55 Chris Hurst was a TV news anchor in southwest Virginia two years ago when his reporter girlfriend was fatally shot by a former station employee during an outdoor live broadcast. The grieving Hurst decided to run for the Virginia House of Delegates as a Democrat in a Republican area and won I think she would of course be incredibly proud. I also think that she would immediately be bending my ear to make sure that i fulfill on the promise, that don't just talk-the-talk, but walk-the-walk too. Democrat Danica Rome made history in Virginia by winning a seat in the House of Delegates She will be the state's first openly transgender lawmaker. She defeated a conservative Republican who sponsored a bill to dictate which bathroom transgender people can use

1:17:43 And in the words of St. Francis de Sales, be who you are and be that well. Democrats Hala Ayala and Elizabeth Guzman will be the Virginia House of Delegates first Latina members while Kathy Tran a former refugee from Vietnam would be its first Asian American. Did they have any cripples? Anything like that? And it's not just Virginia. Diverse Democrats were elected across the nation. Ravinder Bala is a Sikh and won the race for mayor in Hoboken, New Jersey despite racist flyers that said don't let terrorism take over our town. Democrat Jenny Durkan will be Seattle's first lesbian mayor. Can I just say to Donald Trump

1:18:24 Keep your hands off Seattle. Wilmot Collins came to Helena, Montana 23 years ago as a refugee from Liberia. It's believed he will be the first black mayor in Montana history. Andrea Jenkins winner of a seat on the Minneapolis City Council will be the first openly transgender black woman officeholder in the nation. This is dynamite! Hold on a second I am giving you a clip of the day for this...I had no idea it was that good. That diverse, the diverse Dems. Wow! Wow wow wow that's really great but I'm so happy these people will be fine well you know it is we'll see uh i too caught the just because somebody's diverse

1:19:13 It doesn't mean they're any good by the way, but the Democrats will try to make it seem so. But we don't know...but from the report we only heard their qualifications in diversity not in ideas legislation or governing or any of the like. I did also catch that Chris Hirst guy, and I went back... Well first let me play the report I have. When I met you you were dealing with the worst thing that you'd ever imagined happened to you What did that moment do to you in terms of changing you? And putting you on this path? Uh-I remember very vividly when I met you. I met you outside our television station the day after Allison was killed

1:19:57 I told people since and i'll tell you and your viewers now that Allison and Adam Ward's death connected me to humanity more than anything else. That I, through tragedy had a shared experience and common bond with so many people who have gone through tragedy who've gone through loss and now unfortunately as we have seen in recent events of also going on through the tragedy and horror losing a loved one through gun violence but it connected me to my community. It galvanized me to my community. You know, only through fire can that steel be forged stronger and it made me want to stay in no place other than in Southwest Virginia and Appalachia but I couldn't say at the station anymore It became too emotionally difficult for me to stay there And so what could I do? That would be a natural progression To be able to give back to a community to people that gave me so much strength love prayer and support when I needed it and this seemed like the right thing to do now I remembered

1:20:55 that when we covered this story there was a lot going on it was a lot of issues with uh with the official story and with this guy in particular if he really had a relationship he was really going to marry her and i don't want to speak ill of the dead or not dead or whatever But I just remember this guy was very, very strange. And it is...I looked at the date August 27th is when we had these previous clips so almost a year to date A little bit longer Let's just go back and listen to two quick clips from Chris Hearst after his girlfriend, Alison Parker was killed live on camera. They reported and investigated and once you answer that question then that kind of guides you as to whether or not you really think that something should be done by our government How are you doing?

1:21:43 I mean, I woke up this morning and was staring at the hotel ceiling wishing that I could return this contract that I signed. That she was going to be here with me, that we were going to have our life together and then this wasn't going to be the most traumatic five months of my entire life but i feel a duty to honor her with action right now I'm a storyteller in the only thing I can do is share the love that we had together I don't know man, but that whole-I remember that whole contract thing and then he says yeah. I didn't know this would be the worst five months Well wait... I thought that you were..that it was five months of bliss It was very weird do you remember this? Yeah what was his worst five months well wasn't that This wasn't recorded five months after the shooting No! I think that well maybe the second clip Do you remember he had a book like a scrapbook and he was proving that they had a relationship Yeah He was uh well even when i saw him

1:22:39 With this latest win, I think he's... MKUltra. Yeah go ahead just say it MKUltra. I don't want to make this a theme of this show but he looks like a closeted gay to me Oh no! He is definitely gay In fact didn't they? Isn't he- I don't think he has come out No there is every story Hello Every single story Here let us take a look I'm just going to do a book of knowledge So Chris What was his name Hurst? Yeah Hurst Gay, right go Google. Yeah at her sure something like her HUR ST I thought you but I thought it was being touted as as As a gay a gay man know if that was true then they would have pushed that in that CBS clip of the diversity

1:23:36 Although I thought, I saw some. I don't remember that well let's just listen to him proving that they had a relationship this is something this is something that I have been showing people and somewhat hesitant to show it the public but She I believe would want our love to be shared because it was a love That was genuine and a love that I hope everybody else gets to experience at least once in their life As young foolish couples in love do, we celebrate not anniversaries but month-iversaries. Month-iversaries? And for our six month anniversary she made me this photo album which... A month-iversity Which says that all of these pictures are from my phone and I don't really post on Facebook very much We were not public on our professional Facebook pages or social media as being in a relationship together It was something we talked about eventually doing but weren't there yet Mmhmmm I don't really post much to Facebook at all

1:24:38 But these are pictures from the first six months of our relationship and she said it was my job to upload photos to Facebook and put pictures in here into this Into the scrapbook for the next six months. Mm-hmm, right? Well yeah that was peculiar The whole thing is rather odd And now he's a congressman one year I think that was the state state legislative Job just its important a state senator Statehouse delegate I think they call him okay anyway Eyes on that guy. Yeah, I would say... I've always thought that was odd. Always thought it was odd that guy- That guy's needs to be watched Put him on the list Jean. He needs to be on a list. Put him on the list I tell you very good very good You know who else should be on the list? Al Green Gotta put that guy in the list Oh that guys insane. Yeah he got up again Mr Speaker! I rise because i love my country Mr Speaker

1:25:44 Because I love my country, I rise to thank those who voted to reject bigotry racism xenophobia ethnocentrism sexism, hatred in all of its forms Mr. Speaker I rise to thank them for what they did when they voted to reject these things and Mr. Speaker because i love my country and because I cannot accept these things Mr. Speaker I refuse to accept hatred. I refuse to acquiesce to any forms of bigotry, Mr Speaker because I rise to reject these things and now announce that before Christmas there will be a vote

1:26:35 On the chief inciter. Oh, there it is my favorite word the only word that you can't you that doesn't fit the first amendment if you incite violence with your words yes right use it man on the chief inciter of racism bigotry hatred xenophobia sexism ethnocentrism there will be a vote in the US House of Representatives, Mr. Speaker on the impeachment of the president? There's no real conflict! Dang there you go Well that's assuming that uh well that's this year that's holy crap this guy who does he representing anybody who does he represent Well it's a good question let's look it up let's check the book of knowledge I think it's Jersey or someplace like that

1:27:30 All right, any word? I haven't gotten there yet. Al Green. Not the singer good luck with that one Well no you just put representative Congressman Al Green Working for the people of the 9th district of Texas Ah! I should have known Told ya told it's a blue state if You actually got the Texans out to vote they'd probably vote more Democratic Well, it sounds like if they have any way that would put this guy in office and keep him there. What's his district? I wonder where is it gotta be like no let's find out our district map of the district or information about the districts one of those one of those gerrymandered districts It looks like some sort of a monster. Yeah sugar land is so outside at Pearl and Sugarland Sugar Land Sugar Land Yes, I have no idea who this is to middle-of-nowhere Texas

1:28:37 which is pretty much Texas. Hey, hey! Easy with us now. Okay well let's move on to since we're going through actual news today... Let's go oh by the way I want to play this little tidbit because this is a gem it's not being discussed much in the tech media It was just kind of mentioned in passing on Bloomberg Okay, and I think it may actually be a trend that might be underway because you know the there's net neutrality And all the rest of this stuff that is inviting the government to come in and fix things Might result in this replay the Bloomberg tidbit check

1:29:16 And Congress continues to make the case for holding big tech more accountable. We're talking about the efforts to hold internet companies legally liable for the content on their platforms." Yeah, well this is what we've always been talking about it's section 709? Is that what it is? 702? 703? What's my number... It says where they're not here This is what it's been about! We talked about this! This has shut down Facebook And Twitter. Facebook and the one if you're going to go after this stuff, I don't know for a fact that it's there but the most vile of pornography is on Tumblr owned by Yahoo.

1:30:00 with Melissa Meyer is running it. Most of the time she's the one who... Marissa? Marissa, I said Melissa. But hold on why are you shutting down my porn? She's the one who brought it in and Tumblr if you go in there you're gonna find kiddie porn It's illegal to post it, its illegal to have it, it's illegal to hold it They're holding it Yeah but the way this is being done and I did read something we didn't bring up because of the 10th celebration uh..it's all being done through the Backpage case You know, to start off by saying well you are legally liable if there's human trafficking involved. So that is how they're going to start it and I think they're gonna buckle these guys like Zuckerberg? I think their poop don't stink. Whatever we aren't worried about you We're powerful They'll probably go along with it to some degree and get screwed but yeah It's going to shut down And good

1:30:57 Good. The question is, if I'm hosting let's say noagendasocial.com will I be held liable? Yep Well then that has to end It will A lot of this stuff has to end and here's... Section 203 by the way of the Communications Decency Act Here's the problem you're going to run into which is uh... John hold on Let me just restate it for people who don't know because we just assume that like all other tech horny shows and that's not good Section 203 was put in place very smartly, I believe. It said if you have a server where people are generating content on your server you will be like a library You will not be held liable for the content that you host in your library which is also pretty important for libraries Yes And that's it and that's a very very smart thing to do I think it really helped the internet grow

1:32:01 And now we see the unintended consequences or be unintended. It's human nature, there is not much you can do about it about humans being evil and crappy. Well one of my thesis on all these things that has to do with and I think our theme for today may kind of represent this when you came up with the producers' thesis that One side of the show business getting rid of the other side attacking the other side because they're they're causing trouble They make them lose money. The way, they see it Yeah And they don't understand how money works apparently because I did the same thing with VHS tapes which saves Hollywood But that's beside the point we have this instance we have

1:32:45 traditional publishers not too happy with Facebook and Google in particular because they're stealing all the advertising dollars. They haven't stolen it at all, but they're stealing it! Are they stealing it? Well they are taking it from us... Yeah yeah okay I got what you said It was ours! And then using headlines and they're stealing our headlines and they're leveraging us And all the hard work we do. I know this meeting is taking place all the time, because that's the way they see it. They see it, they're leveraging us, they're stealing our headlines or stealing our stories and then they're making money and they're stealing our advertising. Bastards! So big media includes television people even though their foot's in both camps but

1:33:40 They're not gonna be, leave Facebook alone. It's so important! Leave Google and Twitter alone because you can't go after them cause they are so important to society Nobody sees it that way They see is that they are just stealing money And here is the joke of it I'm at Facebook, I am stealing money left and right And I'm not putting any work into it. It's all algos and bots, and a couple of salespeople maybe has hundreds of them but it's beside the point. I'm not doing the kind of work they do at a newspaper where you have editors in control, people know what they're doing good writing and all this extra work you have to do make sure that you're not doing anything that is not right

1:34:26 They don't care. You want to publish fake news? Yeah, hooray! The fake news thing the way I see it is leverage It's a shoehorn Look at what they did and now they're going after- With Russians and the money and collusion. The Russians with the money And the Saudis in the money and all this corruption in the money About the Saudis for a second Yes, I want to go into that. Yeah yeah, I'd like to talk about that right now You know and we can talk later than you know some of that There's actually a conspiracy theory with ties the Saudi thing into the Vegas massacre But yeah interesting way haven't heard that one yeah no you'll like it you'll like it but I got an email from one of our producers wants to be anonymous he says

1:35:15 The Saudi Aramco, this is part of my thesis that a lot of things are taking place and Trump was over there and he said hey you want to list on the right exchange be it probably New York Stock Exchange. You gotta clean up your stuff whatever's going on. And then all of sudden we have this cleanup. We also have to remember that The third in line when the king was still alive, his helicopter crashed. Oh boy it's nasty when that happens which seems like to me an assassination but our producer said it's going to take a year at least he says the books are a mess apparently he has inside knowledge and I can't tell you why but yes I think he does

1:35:59 He says, the books are a mess. We have no... It would make sense! Yeah it's completely like napkins stuff. It's a multi-billion dollar monster company and they have had no controls over the years? There is no books?! No precisely. The books aren't a mess there is no book. That's why they brought Goldman Sachs and all these hot shots in. Exactly exactly so their cooking up some books and they will list... Cooking up books this not cooking the books this is cooking up books. From scratch from scratch its their own recipe MacArthur's Park Yeah, and if you know Goldman Sachs is gonna be involved. They're good at this yeah And they'll come up with some some sterling books because this is promises to be the biggest IPO in the history of IPOs Now do you want me to tell you about The Vegas Conspiracy? Or do you want to talk about what's going on well Let's do that I think we should talk about what's going on first and then that then it will lead into The Vegas Conspiracy. I got three clips all right I have I Have let's do

1:36:58 What one of the I have to actually maybe four let's say there was a fourth TSA inspection You got Yeah, what do you got okay? Well let's start with This is a, I guess Judy was on vacation so they put this guy, the Asian guy reading from the prompter. He's terrible he's a flubber and it's a good background. This is Al Salomon on PBS with The Flubber. and

1:37:49 prices to a two-year high today. President Trump, traveling in Asia took to Twitter moments ago expressing great confidence in King Salman and the crown prince saying they know exactly what they're doing here's special correspondent Nick Schifrin In the name of fighting corruption, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is stamping out opposition and cementing his rule. The 32-year old ordered the arrests of more than a dozen including Prince Awaleed Bin Talal, a billionaire who has major investments in Citigroup Twitter and Apple, and Prince Muta'ib bin Abdullah, the former National Guard chief and most obvious rival

1:38:25 It's not the first house of Saad shake up But it's the most rapid and it centralizes Mohammed bin Salman's power over the military and security services that began earlier this year When he replaced Mohammed bin Nayef, the former heir to the throne State TV announced the arrests and accused the princes of embezzlement and stealing public money That was a message to a Saudi population. That sick of ostentatious royal wealth and eager for reform. That reform is what Mohammed bin Salman is selling as state-owned oil company Aramco plans to go public and diversify. Mohammed bin Salman, who's known as MBS has vowed to modernize in fight extremism

1:39:04 Right. Yeah, this will fit nicely into the theory okay? And so there's one little group of details that came up in the report as they continued going on and on about it and then I want to play the CNBC analysis which is a little longer but the CNBC analysis It's interesting they have better guests and because it's about the stocks, you know This is gonna affect your buying book But let's just play this Saudi and Middle East details part for two years a Saudi led coalition has targeted Iranian allies The Houthis the war has caused the world to worst humanitarian crisis. And this weekend Saudi announced a total blockade

1:39:45 But that was in response to the Houthis launching a ballistic missile at Saudi Arabia. A Saudi military spokesman said it intercepted the missile and blamed Iran. The coalition has ample evidence to prove that Iran is providing weapons to the Houthi armed group. Saudi's anti-Iran policy extends to Lebanon Prime Minister Saad Hariri has led a fragile alliance with Iranian backed Hezbollah and this weekend, Hariri visited Saudi Arabia and appeared on Saudi owned TV to resign and blame Iran.

1:40:24 Wherever Iran is present, it plants discord and destruction attested to by its interference in Arab countries. Throughout this process President Trump has lent support and the Saudi leaders who embraced him have been emboldened All of this means today might be the most volatile moment for Saudi Arabia in more than half a century Okay Now, I find it as though this is like a setup to get Saudi Arabia and Iran to go to war. Which they would like to do, I believe. Could be yeah. They hate... Bless you! I need a soft button. They would gladly do it if we supported one side which would be Saudi Arabia or the other and uh..we would

1:41:17 Now, but on the other...but in a more reasonable tone CNBC I think actually probably did a little better job of giving us some insight into what might be going on considering that if this guy doesn't get killed this 32-year old prince that's running things he doesn't get murdered which you know is gonna be interesting to watch. He'll be in office for 60 years. He'll be like one of these characters that just runs the country forever, but let's play this deals deals deal That's what's going on right now meanwhile Saudi Arabia is King Salman and crown prince Mohammed bin Salman launching this anti-corruption committee Resulted in the arrest of billionaire investor Prince Ali Waleed bint an all of

1:42:02 That was kind of a gratuitous little jingle they threw in there. Why did they do that while she's talking? I think somebody, sounds like a button slip. Yeah, fat finger. That was just weird. Now for more on this is Dennis Ross, former special assistant president Obama currently at the Washington Institute and Fred Kemp from the Atlantic Council who joins us live from Riyadh. Thank you both. Dennis just to begin with you what do you think the implications are for US businesses?

1:42:50 Well, I think there'll be a concern about whether or not there's going to be stability in the kingdom or not and that's gonna raise questions about is this a good time to be investing. My own sense is that what we're seeing is a dramatic effort to consolidate the power of the crown prince so he can actually carry out reforms that are serious He wants to transform the kingdom. I was there last year, one of the leading ministers said to me welcome to our revolution disguised as economic reform. I think in the end the economic reform will actually be quite good for investors. I also think transforming the kingdom is something that's necessary.

1:43:26 Fred, understandably since you're in Riyadh we have a long audio delay so we'll be patient with this but I'm curious how is this all playing out in Saudi Arabia what is the mood in Riyadh this evening? Yeah market forces in a moment. But let's first talk about what is going on in history, there really is sense that since Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman came to power in June the country has been moving very slowly and it has been on overdrive There is geopolitical impact, geoeconomic impact and geo-religious impact don't forget this is the place of Mecca, the center of global Islam

1:44:08 And this is a leadership that's trying to move toward modernity and moderation. So what you've got now is a situation where over the short term, you're going to have a lot of investor nervousness—you have oil going up today—but if this 32-year old reformer stays in power it can actually change the kingdom. I agree with Dennis he could be in power for 30 or 40 years and this could be an amazing longterm play Dennis, I understand that everybody's talking about him as a reformer and that they are doing some things like letting women drive and maybe attending sporting events. But is that just to disguise? There is one UK analyst at Market Watcher who was saying there are some predicting a more repressive and theocratic Wahhabi ascendancy as a possibility. His behavior certainly not in line with a country moving towards democratic pluralism

1:44:59 Well, in a sense what he's trying to do is carry out a revolution from the top not from the bottom. But he also recognizes that you've got to transform the kingdom if it's going to become more modern He also recognizes 70% of the population is under the age of 30 Bear in mind some of what he's doing right now, in terms of the anti-corruption campaign is both to appeal to that larger population that feels they've been left out and also to show that he's producing a kind of dynamic change. Being able to take on and produce this kind of change in a very conservative society probably had to be engineered from the top

1:45:35 We shouldn't look at it as something that's going to be a democracy anytime in the near future. That's not what they're trying to do, but what they are trying to do is modernize their country so it's stable over time I think with both Fred and I are saying if he succeeds this is something thats important because it also creates a successful model of development there has been no successful model of development in the Arab world One of the reasons I see groups like Isis appear is precisely because there hasn't been that successful model this potentially could be one There's a lot. There's a lot going on there, and there's something else going on something else we got to add to it which is Lebanon The Saudi Arabia has just Ordered all citizens to leave Lebanon this comes in the wake of the prime minister

1:46:27 resigning suddenly. Well, in the previous clip they discussed how he walked over to Saudi Arabia and resigned on their television show? Yes correct and this is very bad because it appears that perhaps we as in we Americans and I will point squarely at the president and worse Kushner...I think they're involved in setting up some kind of civil war in Lebanon A religious war, but it'll be a civil war. It's on the list! It's on Wesley Clark 7 Oh my god yes John let's get the list hold on a second West Clark Here is the West Clark seven this was from three weeks after 9-11 Seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran There you go Iran of course big friends with Hezbollah Now

1:47:27 in a way that also kind of, well there's a lot that fits into this vagus theory which I want to unfurl for you here. And you have to understand that this entire makeover of the kingdom since the prince came in Mohammed bin Salman has not been sitting very well with everybody. You know women driving... Have we gone nuts? So, you know this whole we've got to become nicer. We have to clean up all the corruption... This did not sit well with a lot of people inside the kingdom and there was an obvious power struggle with the main guy being- But you have to remember that one other factoid in there which is 70% of the population is under 30

1:48:12 And these folks aren't, you know they're young and it's like the huge young population in Iran. They don't like this repressive idea. No. And they can get satellite TV I mean stuff gets passed around. They have iPhones. They have iPhones so something does have to give Well Al-Wali bin Talal is the main culprit here And by the way, they mentioned him in the CBS report without ever mentioning that he's a major shareholder in Fox News Corp. Not just Fox but also in Four Seasons and I didn't know this but the top floors of MGM are actually Four Seasons property not MGM but Mandalay Bay

1:49:09 So, those top floors—I don't know if it's two or if it's four but those are actually not part of Mandalay Bay per se. They are Four Seasons property so here is how the theory goes and you'll recall there was other weird stuff going on in Vegas. There were reports of other shootings not just reports we played some police audio and there was shooting going on in other places So, the theory goes that Paddock, the Vegas gunman air quotes was indeed running guns selling guns thinking he might be selling him to some Taliban or whatever and he was in with the spooks but with the intelligence or with whoever set up this sting.

1:49:55 But the idea was that there was really a group of what are being called assassins, Saudi assassins under order from al-Wali bin Talal to kill Prince Mohammed bin Salman and to assassinate him. And so they had guys everywhere and there's video it is very interesting videos in the show notes of a guy who certainly looks like the prince with armed guards, not just armed guards but with automatic weapons drawn walking through the casino leading him away from wherever. A very odd video something you've never seen before I mean with their guns pointing around trying to just walk through the casino so the theory goes that these guys were just going to get their guns it was gonna be a perfect

1:50:44 a perfect setup and you remember ISIS did claim responsibility. So they probably kept their end of the bargain if this wasn't, if this happened this way they kept that into the bargain say yeah we did it but it went wrong fell apart and so these guys just started shooting and maybe they always intended to shoot at the crowd or add a crowd or shoot stuff up And when they couldn't get away They both committed suicide That's your two shots At The End But there were multiple assassins everywhere trying and probably one of the bodies that with the body we saw might have been one of you know, The Assassins. It might not even have been Paddock who the hell knows? The body they kept showing was only from like the butt to the feet They never showed it as upper body at all. They'd see his dress I would be wrong So, you know There's a lot of different angles to this but it does kind of fit

1:51:40 In a way, and unresolved for me is indeed what are all these other shooting events going on in Vegas? What was happening you see this video it's like wow okay I just like to know who that was. What was going on why did that happen So that may all be just 4chan stuff, but... Do we know for a fact that he was in Las Vegas? I don't. I don't know for a fact. That hasn't come up in the conversation, that's for sure Well these guys do go to Vegas a lot and they usually will go into skies and they love gambling They'll go to Vegas or what's the one off of China there, the island Macau And they love gambling. They've got plenty of money

1:52:22 But probably, or more likely is... My understanding is rarely do they wear their garb. I don't know. It fits, it's still way out there for me... Well this guy is definitely... But for Trump to then just go along with it now would kind of make sense because he knew what was going on He wants Salman to be his buddy. I guess they saved him in a way from the assassin crew so that was kinda good but its conflict cause you know I'm sure some people got killed something happened maybe wasn't all big false flag maybe was just as something gone terribly wrong

1:53:02 But for sure it makes sense that this guy's under attack, as you say. If he is going to live for 60 years if he is not assassinated and perhaps the so-called rocket from Iran maybe was something else inbound to kill the prince? Well one thing we know and I've described this situation sounding like the end of the first Godfather movie where this guy throws everybody can into house arrest fast as they can all at once which is the way to go, seems to me. And the Talweed guy, whatever his name is... That guy who owns half of everything Al-Walid Bin Talal. And just one more little thing The coincidence and timing of Trump's Twitter being deleted may not be a coincidence seeing as this guy has clout within Twitter

1:54:01 Bent out Ben Talal. Yeah, he does he owns piece of it yeah or did so maybe someone to you know Trump couldn't tweet about anything while something was taking place I don't know I don't know well It's a it's out there. It's piling on I would all I knows that this guy this new guy is 32 year old millennial He has a reason be a problem. He's gonna be a problem is gonna be a problem for somebody and And I think Trump has made the right move by visiting him immediately after becoming president. Yeah, and of course you saw in the newsletter I had that thing kind of outlined as

1:54:40 him meeting with the new guy and then next thing you know Al-Waleed Ben Talal is in prison because Al-Waleed Ben Talal had insulted Trump before the election saying he was a disgrace to America. And he's never going to win presidency, I mean as if he's an American making these comments, And I thought it was extremely insulting and kind of weird that he'd do that at all, since they've done business together. And next thing you know, he's in jail in Saudi Arabia! There is some hanky-panky but there's some good diplomacy going on if you want to call it that. Well what it does do and I'm surprised it hasn't caught on a little bit maybe we can start some of that...I think people should be boycotting Twitter for the evil thinking that the part owner

1:55:33 Bin al-Talib bin Talal. Yeah, that you know he hates women driving and they should you know it's not to politically correct this outfit this Twitter outfits got evil money bad money bad money yeah that's gonna catch on no probably not But this will be a story that we follow throughout probably for the next year. Yeah, and sadly I really feel we're going to see Lebanon you know will be the proxy it's where it's all gonna go down in Lebanon. This is...I mean Lebanon always gets the short end of the stick

1:56:10 It's not like they don't have their own problems, but man was it the 80s? They rubble-ized the place. They rubble-ized...it was the first rubbleization and it was blamed on the Syrians and of course the Israelis too And then they wrecked the place and the Lebanese are the best of all the people in that area in terms of them They're also fantastic people, the Lebanese. I've talked to Middle Eastern Arabs and Jews in the Middle East about the penchant for doing, just making business and doing business and running business and being business-oriented like a Chinese would be. And I always attribute it to say that the Jews have a very

1:56:53 great sense of how to start and run a business and do various... Everybody learned it from the Lebanese, even the Jews. He says that Lebanese are the businessman, the natural-born businessman of the Middle East If you find a good business, you'll find the Lebanese somewhere involved in keeping the thing running. And I always thought that was kind of an interesting observation since it's the ones that get...they had in the 50s apparently what was considered the Paris of the Middle East when in Lebanon. Beirut was yeah and you can look at us like Saskatoon Exactly. Saskatoon is the terrorist in Canada We just call it the Saskatoon of the Middle East They had these beaches and it was all, you know, very westernized and all rest of it And then next thing you know has bombed to crap Sorry, I don't think they got bombed as much as Syria got bombed which seemed well deserved after what they did to Lebanon But this was more rebellization The Saudis have stayed out of this

1:57:51 They haven't been rebelized. Right, but I have a feeling that you know Kushner went into Lebanon we have this guy resigning in Saudi Arabia on TV What next? We're gonna see Israel going into Lebanon to get Hezbollah is that what's gonna happen Boar we're gonna see the Sunni Shia fractions in a civil war so no goods coming of this and I'm telling you We have a part of it, and I'm looking at you Jared Kushner. Yeah He was gonna bring peace to the Middle East he's now is just gonna move the fighting to Lebanon some bad idea It's not nice. It's on the list it was on the list. I know what's on the list damnit

1:58:38 Let me do two little fun clips before we go into our second break. I always love the podcast, people always speak up on the podcast they don't say things especially journos. Journos do things on podcasts they would never do on their traditional show. Katie Ter has written a book And what's the book called? Who wrote it? Katie Ter. Your friend, Katie Ter. Katie Ter from NBC and I don't know what she wrote Yeah she has been doing the rounds Let me see... Like nutball election or something like that No it has a snappy title The title is Unbelievable You were so close My front row seat to the craziest campaign in American history

1:59:31 Wow all right Katie Turr And she was on I like her though when I when I hear her speak She's watch if you watch your show, which you don't know MSNBC. Yes, she has their own show I thought she was just a course and over a year. She said oh, no. She doesn't show and she sucks well that said she was on recode with Kara Swisher and And I just had to clip the grab them by the pussy segment because you rarely hear, it's always like grab them by the lady parts. By the vajayjay. By the lady bits and here is two women cause they're on a podcast so just talking like women and I enjoyed the conversation. You were also the first if I have this my memory correct up? You were the first on air reporter to talk about the Access Hollywood tapes. I was yeah.

2:00:26 And that was because NBC had the tapes in their vault, because Access Hollywood was an NBC distributor. Access Hollywood had the tapes? It was an NBC distributed show or something. They have the tapes before it did. Yeah but Access Hollywood still has them. That's important I think for some reason she really makes a point of that. Access Hollywood not NBC, Access Hollywood! But I'm sure there's some talking point reason. Yeah, but Access Hollywood still had the tapes. Right? But NBC was aware of them. You got them sooner than others so... Yeah we did because it's an NBC property. The first time I heard the tape I was sitting in an office and my ear was right up against a computer because the volume was really low

2:01:08 could make out Donald Trump's voice distinctly. It was a voice at that point I knew better than my own, and he is talking about trying to sleep with a married woman. He is saying these things on the hot mic that clearly he wouldn't say if he knew — although he had been saying wild stuff on Howard Stern before so this wasn't totally out of character but hearing him say you can grab them by the pussy… That really got me. Grab her by the pussy hair? I love how she says that! Grab by the pussy hair." Hearing him say, you can grab them by the pussy was...I mean my jaw cartoonishly dropped to the floor. I remember yelling out in this executive's office and executive row where everyone is relatively quiet. Oh my God did Donald Trump just say he can grab women by the pussy? I mean screaming this out and then thinking wow if

2:02:03 Oh, my God. If anything's going to stop this campaign it's going to be this or is it? You know I think—I thought immediately oh my god he can never survive this. You were the one who kept telling NBC that none of these other crises were going to stop. Did you think this one would? So I thought this one might but then almost immediately I though well I don't know. Yeah. I mean I thought for a few reasons. One his campaign went completely dark Fifty former and current Republican lawmakers were either calling for him to drop out or calling for him—or saying they weren't going to vote for him. The crescendo of condemnation was—it was a crescendo, it was loud.

2:02:47 Then again, I knew that Donald Trump was not somebody who would ever drop out of anything. He would never quit and if you forced—if you pushed him back into a corner he would just fight harder so what happened in—what was going to happen in the debate? Was my question how is he going to try and turn this on Hillary Clinton How would he use Bill Clinton and his accusers Would that work for him And then the real test was What's gonna happen at his first rally after that If the same amount of people, the same amount of enthusiasm is out there then we'll know it doesn't really matter. And that's what happened. So the first rally out of that was thousands of people! Thousands? I don't remember exactly where it was. It might have been Ohio.

2:03:30 Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people screaming and cheering. The more that he was backed into a corner, the more that they felt like they needed to defend him—the louder they got. There was a woman wearing a shirt… An equal amount of women by the way. Yeah! Absolutely. I went to several of those rallies after that. There were a lot of women there. And one woman was wearing a shirt that said And she wasn't the only one, but she was the one that we got the best images of. Donald Trump can grab me by my... and she had an arrow pointed down. She looked like a normal woman. She wore glasses. She looked like someone's mom. You know? Like someone on the PTA at somebody's middle school. She didn't look crazy! But she wanted her pussy grabbed. Yeah I guess. Unwelcome.

2:04:22 I you know, it was it was wild. It was wild. They didn't care man. I enjoyed that little road that back and forth between the women and the pussy talk. Yeah. Hey, you know, I just do what you know, that shows their I remember a clip which we had actually played this clip. It was right after this incident and some woman, and it was in Minnesota or someplace that they were very practical. And she was two ladies and they were middle age and they were asked specifically because the reporters are pushing the story. And then the woman says well every time I've heard stupid shit like that from a man you know it's like what last week? This is no big deal. And they were very down to earth about us saying

2:05:10 you know, talking over his head. And it's very common that men do this and I've always felt that way about a lot of the stuff Trump does he sees really kind of a guy from the 50s, you know, Brett, he brags a lot is he's a little over the top with this stuff to say the least and this was just bull crap And as somebody pointed out, his true words was they went to just kind of it was a little untwisted, kind of a twisted phraseology. But beside the point it's thought it was almost a demarcation point between the hysterical Katie Turr and the practical. Well I have a much shorter practical clip but while that was playing

2:05:58 Access Hollywood, maybe we missed this. Maybe we talked about it the it's an NBC a KNBC owned Production so it's a little disingenuous of Katie to say well access Hollywood had it access Hollywood is produced by KNBC which as far as I know is Oh No Is it an oh no? I think so okay, so NBC doesn't own it and No, they own the station. Oh it is? Okay so... I think it's an O&O. That's why they use the name KNBC they're not gonna let anybody else use that. The executive producer is Robert Silverstein. Owned and operated. The executive producer of Access Hollywood is Rob Silverstein he's a lawyer not a constitutional lawyer for the Silverstein law firm

2:06:48 And as I just dove into this now, everyone's pointing towards him as the one responsible. If it was a lawyer, I'm sure he has beef with Trump for something so that's probably the guy who did it. Probably! Yeah if its a lawyer you know especially if he is successful he will have had run-ins with Trump somewhere. Katie Turr did have something to say kind of the rational Katie Turr about the journos and everybody really When your looking at like who Who are the big gets? Who are the big opportunities for other voices? What do you say?" The people that don't want to be gotten because they don't want to get the hellfire from the other side, which is Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders. She likes Hellfire! She's good with the Hellfire. That's true. Those are the names that people

2:07:39 look at in the Democratic Party for potential leaders in 2020. I wonder if there's somebody just completely different that we're just not thinking of. And so you think some of the biggest Democratic names are, in essence, avoiding a fight? The conventional wisdom is that you don't want to put your hat in the ring too early because you don't want to be the focus of everybody's attention. The focus of all of the criticism. And therefore we have a sort of vacuum of ideas at the same time? Yeah, yeah I'll say that as a Democrat. We have a vacuum of ideas. Look it with the DNC... I'm not putting that on you!

2:08:19 Shut up. I just wonder if the DNC is... Kara Swisher, shut up! What is she trying to do? I just wonder if the DNC has their finger on the pulse. They put out a press release after Flake announced that he wasn't running again, just attacking Flake and it's like, darn! It's a little tone deaf. He seemed like a lost opportunity. He is actually quite articulate about this. He is more articulate than Democrats about the problem. You're almost like, gosh, he sounds like a Democrat. I think everybody needs to tone at the f down. Just tone it down. Bring down the volume because

2:09:03 loud about everything, nothing penetrates. I think we're facing big dangers when it comes to our sovereignty, when it comes to our democratic process, our elections. We have a foreign power that's trying to manipulate us. We need to focus on that! That is a huge story and you can't let that keep happening otherwise where will be? Everybody's a connoisseur idea of sovereignty has to do with Russian meddling. I know not globalism no, no That's okay that's fine yeah the WTO Pretty much their own government everybody else obey we don't need to be sovereign when you know we're helping the world oh

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2:26:16 And we'll take this, hopefully take care of Chris Wilson from Sydney who says he needed a de-douching during the two for one sale of his son Felix. And he says he's able to say my hardcore Catholic mother next time she asks me if I plan on having Felix baptized I will be able to say no but I've had him dedouched. Here we go! You've been DEDOUCHED It's the new baptism. D-Douching, the new baptism. Yeah and he needs to be... He was supposed to be the one that was executive producer for show 977 so I think what we can do is add him as executive producer to this show and then it'll have him covered All right let me just get his deets real quick then hold on i have a system here that seems to be working uh he'll be executive producer or associate? Exec Associate Associate okay hold on now in the spreadsheet at row below

2:27:14 Oh, no. Add row below okay? All right sounds like me what's his name Felix Wilson Felix Wilson Okay on the list it's a list you want to be on yes Donagate yes don again Don again now I for sure thought you would have had some clips of Donna Brazil on Tucker Well, I decided that I was going to kind of follow our rule. No Tucker and no Tucker good because I didn't get anything either. I actually miss rate however. I do have a few other interesting clips

2:28:04 Let us start with the innocuous. Tulsi Gabbard is grabbing on to the controversy with her message, and as you know I'm a big fan of Tulsi. I think she's got her head on straight and this proves it Earlier today we heard from Donna Brazile that what many people had suspected for a long time has turned out to be true The DNC secretly chose their nominee over a year before the primary elections even occurred This shines a light on how deeply broken our campaign finance laws are and how they've weakened individual candidates while strengthening and empowering political parties and special interests. These laws essentially allowed the Clinton campaign to bypass individual campaign contribution limits by funneling millions of dollars through the DNC and state parties, taking control of the DNC in the process

2:28:59 Along with the recent retaliatory purge of Bernie Sanders and Keith Ellison supporters from the DNC's executive committee, this is just further evidence that the DNC needs to be completely overhauled to take our party back from the special interests of a powerful few and put it back in the hands of the people. We must bring about real campaign finance reform We must get rid of the undemocratic system of superdelegates. We must implement open or same-day registration in democratic primaries to actually encourage voter engagement. We must care more about people than protecting the status quo

2:29:39 No more games, no more retaliation. No more picking of winners and losers We must act now to take back our party a party that belongs to the people And fight for a new path forward that is open transparent and accountable and that strengthens our democracy And I wish you lots of luck with that mission Tulsi Yes good luck As much as i like her I wish her lots of luck with that You know, the DNC... The Democratic Party needs a de-douching really. That's that would do everything for them. In fact I'm gonna give him a little de-douche. You've been de-douched! You're clean! Do with it what you need. Take advantage of it? So there's one person well we've heard a little bit from Hillary but we hadn't really heard from Debbie Wasserman Schultz

2:30:32 And luckily our local affiliates in Florida caught up with her. Former Democratic National Committee chairwoman Donna Brazile facing her critics this weekend she's about to release a book called Hacks it's a behind-the-scenes look at the time when she was interim head of the DNC after South Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz stepped down after a leaked email scandal Brazil makes explosive allegations including that Wasserman Schultz allowed the Clinton campaign based in Brooklyn to take over the DNC and its finances. Brazil said then party chairwoman Wasserman Schultz was not a good manager and favored Clinton to become the nominee basically stacking the deck against Bernie Sanders

2:31:10 Your overall reactions to Donna Brazile's book? You know, I'm focused on doing the best job that i can to represent my constituents here in Florida's 23rd congressional district. For the first time we were able to ask a congresswoman about the explosive allegations Can you deny those for us? Can you respond to what Ms. Brazil is saying about you? My focus which is what my constituents elected me to do. I have to say she is good at it, she knows you just don't say anything you just keep repeating the same statement over and over again do not answer the question Which is what my constituents elected me to do is to make sure that I can fight for the things that they care about time after time She refused to respond directly to the allegations continually saying she's focused on issues like getting other Democrats elected stopping the Trump tax cuts

2:31:59 and strengthening environmental protections. Oh, okay. Just this past weekend we had king tides inundate parts of the coastal areas of my district I can assure you that folks in and the neighborhoods in Hollywood are much more concerned and talking to me and raising those issues when I see them in the cafes and coffee shops in our district than they are about anything related to last year's election. I'm surprised somebody didn't say

2:32:47 My constituents, what did she want him to do? What is the constituents wanted her to do about a king tide. What's she gonna do about it go and block the water? I'm stopping this tide right here By the way i don't think that was very good at all you said gave her kudos for not answering the question I think she could have done much better than being a dick which is what she was there And she could have said I haven't read the book I might have to read it I'll see I'll let you know when I have to read it Oh okay well That would've been better She didn't read it I'm sure she didn't read the book. No, she's not lying Now she went on CBS By the way and to follow up to that thing I would say well they said this and that and she said I don't know i'd have To read it for myself You're right you're right uh now dona brazil was on the cbs morning show And boy was there some backpedaling going on? She got called out on it too It became very uncomfortable so gail is there and what's the other girl's name

2:33:46 Nora. Nora and Charlie, who was very annoyed by the whole thing but she starts to backpedal on everything she said But only as far as I know on this CBS morning show so I have still have to see the long Tucker interview Which is just missed for circumstance through circumstances online. Oh sure yes Thanks yeah, I also record his show So I always have my fresh tuck oh you do? I do always had my fresh Tucker Um, here we go. This is on the CBS morning show baffling. Was it a fair fight between Senator Clinton and Bernie Sanders? I believe so look we have five candidates in the race. What? And Nora is confused like what was it a fair fight

2:34:34 between Senator Clinton and Bernie Sanders? I believe so. Look, we had five candidates in the race Hillary Clinton no question about it ran a very strong campaign she had resources in the states that matter especially those early states she won three out of the four early States and she went on to win more votes than Senators Sanders but my purpose in looking into what happened was to find out if anything happened that we did not anticipate and what I learned was there was a memorandum of understanding in addition to the joint fundraising agreement that of the DNC's ability to control his communication and some of its financial investments. And I pointed that out... That is not entirely true Donna, what happened was in 2015 both Secretary Clinton and Bernie Sanders signed an agreement with the DNC right? The DNC was deep in debt and they agreed to help replenish it's coffers. Nora, I'm but I was a vice chair at a party and I had no idea there was a separate memorandum that gave one

2:35:35 one candidate control over selecting staff in three or four departments. Now, it may not be illegal but I thought... This was a supplemental agreement that Hillary Clinton... A supplemental agreement that when I became chair when I figured out why can't I spend money? Why can't I go out there and make some other strategic investments and because of this memorandum I could not so I felt obligated as I told Bernie I would at the convention that what that I would get to the bottom of it and I found no that the party rigged the process and I wanted to make sure that Bernie his supporters understood. Your book does not seem to suggest that you think it was a fair fight, that's why i'm surprised to hear you say to Nora knew it was a fair fight

2:36:14 Your book seems to suggest that you're bitter, you're angry and on top of all of that you seem very hurt. But it doesn't seem like you think it was a fair fight Donna? You even called Bernie just explained to him I found the cancer here! That doesn't sound like... So so I'm also first of all I'm a member I'm a member the Democratic establishment in terms of rules committee. It is a fair fight we don't set primary dates they're set by the states We set caucus dates. You called Bernie to tell him what? Bernie to explain to him that there was cancer that I could not destroy. And I could not destroy it because of this memorandum." I had two choices to make, and I think Bernie agreed with me. One was to expose it and expunge it and then disrupt the party in September 2016 or wait until the election is over with and rid the party basically allowing any candidates...

2:37:09 Hillary Clinton did something for the party that everyone should understand. The party was broke and she gave the party a lifeline of resources in order for us to compete, and that's what she did for the general election." Let me shift this... But now you're claiming that Hillary Clinton and her campaign treated you like Patsy the slave! Well no I said I felt like Patsy the slave. This is backpedaling of the highest order! This is the opposite of what she was saying on Stephanopoulos show Somebody got to her big time and now they're getting this little tiff at the end here. First of all, I want to correct a record because I've known Gail for a long time She's been my editor so she's tough but there's no question that I was upset I was upset because we were hacked This country is hacked by foreign country a hostile country

2:38:01 Donna, you sound like in the book. I read the book that you were upset with Robbie Mook certainly You also sound very angry with Hillary Clinton Yes The hacking was an issue My emotions are my emotions But there's no question that i was very upset at the time because look I'm chair of a party I have a lot of skin in the game. like most campaigns you have family squabbles. I've fought with my family. You guys settle on this one, I'm going to do one other thing. And i love these two women but they're tough. So come on be gentle please. And then she did add insult to injuries that Charlie you shouldn't be you'd be lured you'll be like them tough not like his pussy man man

2:38:59 She's an idiot. Brazil is not a good she's a Loose cannon, she's what doesn't seem that bright well someone got to her and said I do and then was that focus back on Russia and the Hatton hacking Oh And I got crap for one of our nights about we were laughing about how when she gets excited She doesn't speak English anymore. That was called racist you're a racist guys now race We make fun of everybody we make fun of ourselves Well, somebody at that level should not be speaking poor English. I agree! That's what we were saying? Like she as a woman who grew up in segregated South you know that was insensitive and said do you mean by insensitive I'm racist yeah well yeah you could look at it that way Yeah i can see why someone would think that um couple things the party was broke now how could that even be when you had Obama who ran through

2:39:55 two presidential campaigns where he out-moneyed everybody in the world and broke the record in his second campaign with I think something over a billion dollars. Which is supposed to go through the DNC, did Obama just steal all of the money and the DNC got nothing? How did they get broke? They also get millions of dollars for these even though they're not chairman anymore because they don't have the House or Senate but their co chairmen have to pay ran through that on one of our shows. They have to pay the Democratic National Committee or Republican National... Adam Blyth for the chairmanships, yeah. You have to pay them money for the chairmanships and that and the money can be a million dollars or more depending on it on the various committees But don't they have to come with their own money? The people who are going to be the chair

2:40:40 Don't they have to raise the money? It's not the Democrat money. They give it to them, so it was supposed to go from their campaigning into the coffers of DNC. Where did all that money into DNC go? That was never explained in your book or by anybody else. Where is all that money? There was money in there! Hey phrase from The Shays... where does the term coffers come from? That's a good one Why don't we just say bank account or PayPal or Coffers I know what it means In Dutch, koffer is suitcase Well, there's some suitcases involved in this deal. Yeah anyway I'm dead the whole thing is annoying There was one report i've not read the book and I don't think I will uh but this was an interesting report

2:41:24 about how she expands on Seth Rich in her book Hacks. Donna Brazile worried that Seth Rich was either killed for being white or killed by Russians In her latest book titled Hacks, she wrote I felt some responsibility for Seth Rich's death. I didn't bring him into the DNC but i helped keep him there working on voting rights with all While I knew about the Russians hacking, I could not help but wonder if they had played some part in his unsolved murder. Besides that racial tensions were high that summer and I worried he was murdered for being white on the wrong side of town. My friend Elaine expressed her doubts about that and I heard her.

2:42:03 The FBI said that they did not see any Russian fingerprints there. Rich's murder haunted Brazil, the DNC data staffer was killed days before WikiLeaks began publishing its emails and his valuables were not taken. The intelligence community told her after the killing that she needed protection for herself including cameras alarms and backup power at her house and she heeded their advice. Brazil was so concerned with Rich's death that she used her brief only phone call from Hillary Clinton after the election loss to bring him up She asked Clinton to use some of the millions of dollars the campaign had in order to set up a reward fund to find his murderer but Hillary said, she really had to go. Gotta Go! Got no time for this Why is she expanding so much on this?

2:42:50 I find it peculiar. And that little telling moment was Hillary saying, ah... Yeah, got to go. One quickie then one last clip about the new Democratic Party The diverse Democrats, this is White House correspondent Abby something or other from CNN and just a brief one. Virginia is the kind of state that really highlights the key problem for Democrats right now which is that in order to bring out African-American voters you might have to alienate some white voters and it's a purple state it's a place where Democrats still have to appeal to some white voters and so that balancing act is really difficult for them to strike

2:43:32 They're just saying this. Do they realize how odd they sound? Yeah, we gotta alienate some whiteys! That's the compassionate Democrats. Borderline? I would say by the way now that i think about it calling you out for condemning somebody speech pattern as racist is racist The knight that we have within our group he's the racist Explain You were just doing something objective and he saw it as a racial issue. In other words, this is like Dimension B. They see everything in the framework of race. I wouldn't call him Dimension B but I definitely think he has white guilt. He's from the South

2:44:28 But if you see everything in terms of race, and you criticize somebody for using the language poorly. It's not a matter... If you see it in terms of race I mean yes! Yeah exactly. But if you just see it as bitching and moaning about people not being able to speak good English or not speaking it when they get agitated or whatever. He presented-and I like him by the way he is a nice guy I've met him-He presented it Almost like a handicap. You know, well she's she grew up in the segregated South therefore you can't blame her for Speaking that way there's no excuse Thank you Yeah, and you're right That's a racist thought because we do just laughing with your laughter about how dumb people are but We love again everything in a race Obama's everybody everything in a racist framework Just what? You just said no racist check your privilege Joe

2:45:24 Yeah, you're privileged. You're a jerk privilege guy. He's a good guy but he just needs... No you're the jerk in this case Me? Because I'm now seeing everything in a racist framework and I didn't realize yeah exactly I have a couple of things there that could easily go to Sunday Well hold on let's just transition Okay Where is the woppo woppo woppo? Oh well I didn't know you wanted a woppo That was just a transition blipper You wanna there is a that's the worst by the way. The worst trend is might as well use this No Yeah, the worse no I just think it's good I Got one clip left and we can wrap on time actually were late anyway yeah, I know sorry

2:46:20 I'll put this off. All of this goes to Sunday, which includes maybe a little discussion of the Texas shooting which is obviously we didn't discuss today that needs to be discussed. I got a clip by the two idiot basketball players that were arrested in China with a little commentary at the end of it. Let's do that! Okay let's play that and then i have something too now... Three basketball players from UCLA were busted in China for stealing sunglasses from a sunglass hut or whatever it is, in the mall at Beijing or Shanghai. What idiots! Idiots and instead of getting the news reports I actually took this report from a sports talk show called Pardon The Interruption which was fantastic show if you like sports The update from Shanghai is that three UCLA basketball players are arrested for shoplifting sunglasses including LiAngelo Ball

2:47:08 are out on bail but essentially under house arrest in their luxurious team hotel. They have, not surprisingly been ruled out of Friday night's game with Georgia Tech. Daddy Ball and his wife are there in Honjo shooting their Facebook reality show balling the family I bet you like that tone. It's a good name. Where LaVar told reporters quote it ain't that big deal close quote Tony your thoughts my immediate thought when I heard about this was if this is true How stupid can you be? You are in a foreign country. That is not a democracy You do not know the rules that you can be locked up They can throw away the key you have no access to lawyers in United States because why cuz you're out in the United States and you're stealing Sunglasses how stupid Can you be yeah, um how about this Tony how unaware oh

2:48:00 teenagers and we're talking about teenagers here what do they know about a communist country anymore? What do they know about non-democracy, what do they know when they see a mall with a sunglass hut or a Fendi or a Prada or the same stuff they see in SoCal dude, what would they know the difference is between China? You think that they read it in the morning New York Times because they didn't or the LA Times because they didn't. Because there to play basketball so they don't know that. How aware are we as a parent now? Now these are allegations and that's all they are are allegations. That goes on and on but at this point I think that they never really did kind of make this into awareness. They bring up awareness What do they teach kids in high school nowadays nothing

2:48:43 They don't teach about the American government, the American system and the kind of freedoms and opportunities we have. And how the systems work and how it differs from other systems where you do get your hands chopped off in some of them So these kids come out of high school, now they're at UCLA. Of course they're just starting in but it's like could they got managed to get in so they graduated from high school I would assume if you get the UCLA to play basketball but this is an example to me of the lousy educational system in this country and in California in particular well it's also parents man I mean how do you even become like that?

2:49:25 You steal sunglasses. Stealing is very odd to me Yes, well the parents in one of them is a very famous A-hole parent. Oh okay! But it's beside the point we have three of these kids that are naive they just think they can... Yeah, they're idiots like the kid who took their poster down in North Korea. They should throw these kids into slammer and leave him there for a couple years. They can play basketball for the Chinese team Time out time out for five years It's new rules time up Alright everybody, that is the show for today. Keep your eyes open and we'll do the same There's always something to deconstruct And then you know it's no agenda time So we return on Sunday Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA Until that time coming to you from the common law condo in the 5 by 9 Cluedio downtown Austin Tejas capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps if you're looking forward In The Morning everybody

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2:51:28 I'm gonna take a dump! Jeff Begay, even though it sounds like he's taking a dump is the best reporter that reports these things because he's not dishonest. Well he has no time to be dishonest cause you gotta get the report out and hit the can! The guys in trouble! You like that? Yeah I do...I don't know why but i like it. The poop guy sound.

2:52:08 Just step up. Step up and do what? Resist! Poop, resist...resist And this is not a good idea if you need to poop You have to push harder Actually that's funny Jeff Pagais That it sounds like he actually managed To get that dump out of the way Oh its my favorite guy At the other end of the mall He does sound much more relaxed Going to my party I think they finally took the right X-Lags Party party Holy crap Poop on the floor, slave! Poop. The poop project dot org Go drink some poop Thanks Jeff This whole thing stinks to high heaven In the morning to you John C Reddicy stands for Chicago

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