Episode 97 · Thursday, 14 May 2009

Brain Damage

A surge in pharmaceutical liquidations and new surveillance tactics in the UK highlight a week of shifting global power dynamics and executive tension.

By The No Agenda Show | 1h 25m listen | 35 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 97

About this episode

President Barack Obama faced scrutiny following a commencement address at Arizona State University where his interactions with students and a public interruption by Speaker Nancy Pelosi sparked debate over executive authority. The administration's focus on energy independence through natural gas and wind power remains a central pillar of the White House platform, even as Pelosi’s effusive praise in the Rose Garden appeared to undermine the President’s standing. Tensions between the executive branch and the House leadership suggest a burgeoning power struggle over foreign policy and the influence of the Israeli lobby.

Pharmaceutical giant Roche is reportedly liquidating short-dated Tamiflu stockpiles as generic manufacturer Cipla prepares to flood the market with affordable alternatives. In the United Kingdom, the Too Much Bling campaign in Gloucestershire encourages citizens to report neighbors with unexplained wealth, a move critics compare to communist-era surveillance. Meanwhile, the House Judiciary Committee passed legislation to levy new performance fees on local radio stations, potentially funneling millions to international record labels. In the Middle East, President Asif Ali Zardari claimed the CIA and ISI were instrumental in the creation of the Taliban, while General Stanley McChrystal replaced David McKiernan to lead operations in Afghanistan.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dissect the absurdity of a jackhammer-related fatality and the cultural impact of the Eurovision Song Contest. Author David Seaman argues that Twitter’s 140-character limit is causing literal brain damage by simplifying human thought, while Dvorak offers a high-end review of Park Cognac as a remedy for the digital age.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Introduction, Mistress Metaphor, Daily Source Code

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the bi-weekly publication from the Crackpot Command Center in the United Kingdom and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry addresses listener requests for the return of the Daily Source Code, metaphorically describing the project as a mistress that requires a different type of respect. The hosts establish their locations within Gitmo Nation East and West.

adam curry· john c dvorak· no agenda· daily source code· gitmo nation

00:03 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Tracking the sliver of overlap between information and real news, this is your bi-weekly Gitmo Nation publication. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, known as the United Kingdom, I'm Adam Curry. And from Gitmo Nation West, actually Northern Silicon Valley, the place that doesn't exist but is nice and sunny and hot for some unknown reason. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hmm look out daily source code return is next. I know it will be there will be people that want that Yeah, there are people that want that there are people who are very angry at me well Then why don't you you know crank out a couple of shows to just to promote us? Well the daily source code is for is different That's kind of like my mistress on the side John you know I have to treat her with a different type of respect so

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Barack Obama, Arizona State University Commencement, Party School Reputation

President Barack Obama delivered a commencement address at Arizona State University, a location noted by the hosts for its reputation as a party school and its proximity to John McCain's home. The discussion touches on the "big three" pillars of Obama's platform: education, healthcare, and energy. Dvorak expresses skepticism regarding the choice of venue for a presidential address.

barack obama· arizona state university· john mccain· commencement address· party school

01:20 Bunch of swine flu stuff came in this week. Also, but at the top of the news, I think, is Obama, like I guess it was either yesterday or the day before yesterday, gave the commencement address at Arizona State, which anyone who knows colleges in the United States knows is a party school. It's John McCain's backyard, of course. Right, which I guess is adding insult to injury. Oh, yeah, although you know the thing is I'm always wondering about you know why is he doing this and Because it's like why would you go to some school like Arizona State no offense to you Arizona? I know a lot of people from Arizona State and I've been there. I saw you two at their lovely stadium That's a beautiful place, but you know it was still in the Pac-10 the conference in which it belongs it is the party school and

02:10 You know, so did you see this said commencement? Yeah, I saw it Damn it. I saw it It's the same all is the same, you know speeches given he's got this and by the way I got tipped off by somebody I'd have to dig them up I think I mentioned them in the I have a blog Entry I think I was to think about how I dealt with it, but whatever that I think maybe just save it for the show anyway, the point is is that Yes, he was the trifecta, you know educate, you know Obama did his big three, you know education What are they healthcare health care and The big three they're so big we can't even remember them. I just got up There's so big health care economy perhaps I don't remember yeah, yeah that must know something something with money

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Obama Eyeballing Student, Nancy Pelosi Press Conference Behavior

Observations of President Obama at the Arizona State commencement suggest he was staring intensely at a student on stage in a manner described as creepy. A separate incident in the Rose Garden involved Speaker Nancy Pelosi interrupting the President to offer effusive praise for his healthcare leadership. The hosts interpret Pelosi's actions as undermining the President's authority and note his apparent displeasure.

barack obama· nancy pelosi· arizona state university· rose garden· healthcare legislation

03:03 It's pathetic. It takes me like an hour, it takes me like two hours to, I'm like an old model T. I just keep, until I warm up, I've got nothing going on. The oil is still a little bit thick. It's getting there. It was the same old same old with him. But what was weird was at the beginning of the thing, Obama's like, they're introducing all these special students who are either Came from weird backgrounds and they got their degree or their straight a or and then they had a bunch of doctoral people that come out and they had it some really Some older woman announcing them and she was up on this podium and she's looking over her glasses and she looks so ominous She's gonna beat someone up. She looks just like I don't know. What's the way that was toadist there? I didn't see him

03:50 Do you know who I'm talking about? It's something. Teleprompter of the United States. Oh no, it was. Yeah, that's what's funny. When you first saw the stage, there's these two, you know, the two prompters, you know, the back and forths were sitting, were there and they were real obvious because the lights were reflecting off of them funny. But anyway, the thing that was weird about the whole thing, and people should try to catch this, and I'm sure it's going to be on YouTube. is that, hopefully you can catch the whole thing, because at the beginning they're bringing out these people and some black girl comes out, because she was, you know, got a straight A's or she was in, she came from some, I don't know what her background was, but it was weird. She's kind of cute. And Obama starts eyeballing her.

04:27 No, really? Like really eyeballing her? He's eyeballing her. And so she comes and she stands there and Obama's like staring at her from a distance. And it's like real obvious on this thing, it's almost uncomfortable to watch. He's just like, he's like, he's like laying into her that just a kind of a creepy stare and she looks over at him and she's like, dude, stop staring at me. Seriously. And maybe that's why she was on stage, John. Maybe that's, you know, maybe there's something going on there. Well, whatever the case was, he was like giving it to her. And I just thought that it was slightly creepy. I saw yesterday, I was watching CNBC, I hadn't really watched in a while, and the president came out and I guess they're very close or that he was giving a push to some health care legislation. So they're in the, looked like maybe the Rose Garden or whatever. And there was Pelosi, Speaker of the House was next to him and a couple other jabronis. But here's what was interesting.

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

Energy Independence, Natural Gas, Wind Power Potential

The conversation shifts to the administration's focus on reducing dependence on foreign oil through domestic resources. Mention is made of untapped natural gas reserves and the potential for wind power in the United States. The hosts argue that the country possesses sufficient internal energy resources to achieve independence if managed correctly.

energy independence· natural gas· wind power· foreign oil· reserves

05:27 So Obama does this whole thing, it's a no questions press conference. And he's like, you know, this is great and you know, we're really going to do this. We have to do this this year. We have to do this this year. He's repeating it over and over again. All right. Thank you very much. And then Pelosi says, excuse me, Mr. President. He's like, what? So, yeah, I just want to say something. And she gives him the biggest public blow job I've ever seen in my life. It's like without your leadership, you have done more for health care since health care began in 1951. What has he done? It was nothing. But this is the whole point. So first of all, doesn't the president get like the final word? Isn't it like, doesn't it completely undermine his power if you then step up to the microphone and say, excuse me, I just wanted to say one thing here. It was wrong. It's like she's conferring him. But it was, I felt like, whoa, man. And you could see he was not pleased with that move. And then so he did have the final word. OK, thank you very much. That's it. And then he turns around, he bolts.

06:27 But he's got to deal with this woman. Oh, does he ever oh that was I just say a huge faux pas, but man It was lip-smacking. Hmm world-class BJ from Pelosi. Okay, the the trilogy is health education and energy All right, of course reduce our dependence upon for foreign oil which of course we we can easily do just by using our own oil and Which more and lower we have found that well natural gas we got natural gas we got this way We also have a lot of reserves and we have untapped reserves and we have unknown reserves and we have wind power. Yes anyway Anyway, so the thing that's my wind power So he usually does the health education energy and then then he throws in the fourth one, which is the economy It's as a kind of a little little ditty on the side there. Hey, can I ask you a question John? Sure. I was this actually started when

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Tamiflu Stockpiles, Pharmacist Observations, Expiration Dates

A pharmacist from New York City reports a massive surge in Tamiflu sales following the announcement of a potential swine flu pandemic. The report claims that current Tamiflu supplies are "short-dated" and likely represent old stockpiles from the previous avian flu scare that Roche needed to liquidate. The pharmacist notes that many patients seeking the drug actually have seasonal allergies rather than the flu.

tamiflu· swine flu· roche· avian flu· antibiotics

10:34 Okay, well let's get to a couple of things here. You want start with this one? I want to get to some some items before we do before I get the real news yeah By the way, and I want to congratulate you know our audience is we've gotten the critical mass not so much with the money, but we have with the With them with the talent that we have accumulated in so far as our producers. I concur yes, and our moles We have artists that working for us, and we have people out there that are doing stuff. I Yeah, look at around stuff looking around And they kind of confirm our theories. Oh, here we go hit me this from Steve. Oh, New York City Hey, John, I'm a pharmacist in a bitty busy, New York City pharmacy ever Every says everybody's ever since this coming apocalypse pandemic was announced. We've been selling Tamiflu by the boatload We couldn't get enough of it

11:28 We even had physicians and surgeons coming in and placing their orders for five and ten packs. I'm in agreement with you regarding to having a pack on hand when traveling, but I also think people should have antibiotics with them as well. All too often people come in from traveling abroad and need antibiotics and other meds and have to go to a city emergency room just to see a doctor, some vacation. Just a couple of observations about the swine flu deal that I've noticed. All the Tamiflu that we are getting is short dated. Oh really? A.K.A. expiring soon. I feel that this is a stockpile of drugs that were unable to move them by the avian flu scare a few years back. Well we know this for a fact. We know that they've had this stuff.

12:16 Roach needed an excuse to unload it before it was expired. Also, the timing of this flu coincides with the allergy season in this part of the country as well as other parts. People come in with a runny nose, sore throat and cough and think they have the flu. They go to the doctor and get a Tamiflu script and think they will be all better. Even though I tell them that a hallmark of the flu is a fever, they either do not believe me or think I'm wrong. Went to school for over seven years to do this and all I do is this is day in and day out It's all I do day in and day out, but the public rather bill would rather believe the liberal media whores Damn them liberal media whores We need a jingle we need a jingle for that. Hello You do actually we need a jingle for liberal media whores Keep up the great no agenda work Let me tie into that because you know if you think that was eloquent and

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Chinese Zodiac Coincidences, Animal Flu Outbreaks

A listener email suggests a correlation between the Chinese Zodiac and global flu outbreaks, noting the Year of the Chicken coincided with bird flu and the Year of the Pig with swine flu. The hosts humorously speculate on the implications for the upcoming Year of the Cock in 2010.

chinese zodiac· bird flu· equine influenza· swine flu· year of the pig

13:13 Well, except for my reading of it. Yeah, that kind of blew. Chris Schouler. Title of this email, coincidence. Don't know if this is just a sick coincidence, but 2007 was the Chinese year of the chicken. Bird flu pandemic devastates parts of Asia. 2008, Chinese year of the horse. Equine influenza decimates Australian racing. 2009, Chinese year of the pig. Swine flu pandemic kills hundreds of pigs around the globe. And it gets worse. Next year, 2010, Chinese Year of the Cock. I'm very worried. I'm so worried now. Isn't that weird though? With the chicken, horse, pig? I guess you could shoehorn anything into anything, but cock of course is another form of chicken. So that would be another... You don't say. So anyway, I think that's what it is.

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Swine Flu Skepticism, Marketing Ploys, Conspiracy vs Strategy

The hosts analyze the swine flu outbreak as a potential marketing ploy rather than a government conspiracy. They discuss reports from Mexico suggesting that many victims did not exhibit standard flu symptoms like fever. The segment emphasizes that corporate PR strategies to move inventory can often be mistaken for deeper conspiracies.

swine flu· marketing strategy· conspiracy theory· mexico· public relations

14:17 Meanwhile, I got another guy who noted that in Mexico, a number of the, you know, there's 150 or more dead from this swine flu. It turns out that a lot of them never even had the requisite fever. Or the vomiting. They were dying from something. Yeah, they had pneumonia or whatever. There's something up. So this whole thing, and by the way, I want to give you the credit for when we first started bringing this story, you without, before we had a shot at even analyzing it, you called it as a fraud. instantly. I came up with more of these, with the theories of why. By the way, and I want to mention the people who keep claiming that everything, you know, that's Curry and Dvorak or Curry and mainly you, this is a conspiracy, you know, a conspiracy. You know, if some one company decides to hire a PR agency to get rid of some inventory and they go through a process to do so, even though it may frighten the public, let's say,

15:17 It's not a conspiracy. These things aren't necessarily conspiracies. These sometimes are marketing ploys. If I go out and do some crazy thing by myself for my company, it's not a conspiracy. We're not doing conspiracy theories. The ones that may involve the government in bed with the industry to do this and that and then the Builder burgers and all that other kind of BS, that would be maybe a conspiracy. But for the most part, we're just talking about generally speaking, especially in the case of the Tamiflu, a simple marketing strategy to get rid of inventory.

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Generic Tamiflu, Indian Pharmaceutical Patents, Drug Advertising

An Indian company, Cipla, is reportedly preparing to flood the market with generic Tamiflu, which may explain Roche's urgency in selling existing stock. The hosts discuss the complexities of pharmaceutical patents and the practice of drug companies marketing against generic alternatives as the patent expiration date approaches.

cipla· tamiflu· patents· generic drugs· gilead sciences

15:58 And I was reading somewhere, I know I didn't save the article, but worth mentioning that there's now an Indian company who is going to start flooding the market with a generic Tamiflu. I would have thought they still had those rights, that they couldn't do that. Well that's a good question. Now if that's the case, that would be another good reason for Roach to get rid of it. It makes even more sense, doesn't it? Yeah, because it's going generic. It's getting much money out of this horse while we can. Well that would mean Relenza is probably going to be out of phase 2. Let me take a look. Oh no, no. Oh by the way, remember I kept saying that I had Tamiflu, that the doctor gave it to me once for a urinary tract and you were like, that doesn't make sense? It hit me today, it wasn't Tamiflu. It was another drug at the time people wanted to have in their possession. It was Cipro.

16:43 And that was at the time of the anthrax scares. Right. So I was incorrect about that. So... You got it on Rolenza? Well, I'm looking at Tamiflu. I think Rolenza actually predates Tamiflu, but I'm not sure. I'm looking at these articles and nobody... This is one thing that, by the way, you don't find... Now that I think about it, because I'm looking at USA Today's story on the patent, You don't find a lot of news items by the mainstream media that actually give you the date. You know, it's like this. The patent runs out on January 15th. It might be of some value to the public because if you're paying like $10 a pill, which is not unusual for these things, these types of drugs that are patented, it might be a good thing to wait a day if you knew that the patent was running out this month. Because now you see this with a bunch of ads they have on television, which they shouldn't even have.

17:40 saying you know don't forget to ask for this the original did you know to eat with this when the patent starts to run out on these drugs they start advertising them as you know the extra special if you don't let the doctor give you generic Which by the way should be busted. One of these government agencies should bust people. It's either a drug that's based on a chemical that's very specific, a generic drug should be exactly the same, it should work exactly the same or it's obviously not manufactured properly. Somebody's either in violation of manufacturing standards or somebody else is lying. You know, and what, and the public doesn't know, they're all, oh I guess, no this is the original, I have to still have the real expensive stuff because the generic's not as good. Yeah, that, that, isn't that, isn't that outlawed? Isn't that banned somehow from them marketing against it that way? I'm not seeing any evidence of it.

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Performance Rights Act, Radio Fees, House Judiciary Committee

The House Judiciary Committee passed a bill that would levy new fees on local radio stations for airing music. If enacted, half of these fees would go to major record labels, most of which are based outside the United States. The hosts suggest this move could be the "final neck chop" for traditional music radio, leading to an increase in talk radio.

house judiciary committee· radio stations· performance rights· record labels· music industry

18:30 Well, this is clearly all a part or ACTA is going to solve a lot of these problems for the pharmaceutical industry and There are there are some massive moves afoot when it comes to intellectual property So if you don't realize how this works and this is and there's been some very important drugs in just the past few years including the beta blocker Its name evades me for a moment the patent runs out and then anyone can make this drug, which by the way also means drugs that can be distributed to people in poor countries who have no access to this because it's too expensive. So it's a good thing that there's this expiration and I believe that they are continuously trying to extend those dates. It's a fractal of the music industry. In fact, if I can just deviate for a moment, very important ruling

19:21 by the House Judiciary Committee yesterday. They passed a bill, 21 to 9, the vote, that will levy a new fee on local radio stations for music aired free to listeners. If enacted, 50% of the new fee will go directly into the coffers of the major record label companies, three out of four, incidentally, which reside outside the United States. And so it looks like this is the final neck chop for radio. Yeah, that means there's more talk radio, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. Here we are. That's right. Here we are. Everybody welcome. Now that you can't afford to play any songs on the radio anymore, it's AC and JCD. Cougar.

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Gilead Sciences, Roche Agreement, Virus Creation Theories

Gilead Sciences, the developer of Tamiflu, reportedly terminated its agreement with Roche regarding marketing rights. The hosts also discuss blog reports claiming the swine flu virus shows signs of being engineered. They draw a parallel between biological viruses and the computer antivirus industry, suggesting companies may create problems to sell solutions.

gilead sciences· roche· tamiflu· computer viruses· symantec

20:14 Alright, so here's that Indian company. I still can't get the date. It's weird. Here's a website called Patent Baristas and this is very interesting. This ran in October of 2005. Let me just read this. In a new twist in the Tamiflu drama being played out across the globe, it's now being reported that Jyleed Sciences, which apparently is the developer of Tamiflu, is believed to have terminated its agreement with Roche. which has the exclusive marketing right on the drug. Now generic manufacturers like India's Cipla, which is the one you're talking about, are the ones who hold the patent rights on the drug and they want to start making it. So something's screwy. There's a back story.

20:55 about this flu, about Tamiflu and all the rest of it and the crazy stuff that's going on that is not just... I mean we have to go through blogs to kind of piece it together. Where is the... what is the media doing? It's so obvious what... it's so obvious what has happened. They've injected this into the air or however it was done. Oh, did you hear the latest? There was another story that just ran which says that something... this just got blogged by the way on the Dvorak.org slash blog, check it out. It talks about some guy who broke down this virus and claims there's no way this thing was created. Oh yeah, exactly. I did read that. Oh, absolutely. And John, ever since I was a young kid, I've had this thought, this...

21:37 And I'm saying like, you know, formative years, 13 to 15 is when I start thinking, you know, I was becoming aware of media and how it worked and I was becoming a part of it and I was like, it seems so amazing that these guys always time their advertising buys right around the fact when everyone is completely shit out with the flu. I think, you know, and I've always thought if I had a company I can see how incredibly tempting it would be to shoot something into the air and then have the solution, problem, solution. And people wonder if the, the, uh... But then people have the audacity to call me a crackpot and a conspiracy theorist when companies are fucking with you all day long and you know it. I'm talking about the computer viruses and anti-virus software. Same thing. Same thing. We talked about Symantec. It's the same thing. They work for the government. They work for the government. That's their biggest client. Alright, enough of that.

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Eurovision Song Contest, Terry Wogan, Blasphemy Day

The Eurovision Song Contest is highlighted as a major cultural event in Europe, with the hosts explaining its significance to an American audience. They discuss the retirement of commentator Sir Terry Wogan, known for his humorous and biting critiques of the contestants. Additionally, a listener notes that it is "Blasphemy Day" in Ireland.

eurovision· terry wogan· united kingdom· ireland· blasphemy day

22:36 And you don't have to defend yourself. Everybody knows you're crazy. I love you, baby. And now, back to Real News. Yes, two important pieces of Real News. Tonight, the second preliminary round of the Eurovision Song Contest. Yeah, this is not very... We talked about this some time back, but Americans are unfamiliar with this event. You're going to have to re-explain it. Why is it so big? Because it was one of the first pan-European satellite broadcast initiatives that came back on a yearly basis. So very analogous to the Oscars and later the Grammys. How about this is very analogous to the World Cup, do you think?

23:22 No, not the same. I'm talking about in terms of country versus country. You know, we're going to beat those bastards in France. You know, the Germans want to do that or the British think they're going to win the World Cup. No, no, I think it might have been that. No, I don't think it was. It was it was more exciting. country to country rival. stupid, cheesy and pretty much everything is gay on this show. And it's funny to watch. It is absolutely hilarious to watch. So it's become counterculture. Of course people are happy, but I

24:13 I've never known differently than people say I think they're the best and they're gonna win it was never about our guys that got a win because you each country that is a member of the only has to be a member of the European Broadcast Union so it's not even technically just Europeans that are in it Israel participates and you know there are all kinds of different countries But it used to be a really exciting thing because it would start off with the Eurovision tune which everyone can hum. Everyone knows it. And then you had the satellite thingy, like, oh yeah man we're hooked up, we're connected, everyone's watching it live. And that was the genesis. In the United Kingdom,

24:56 Although this will be the first year he's not doing it ever since I was aware of Sir Terry Wogan doing the commentary. The reason to watch in the United Kingdom was always the commentary from Terry Wogan because he would just sit there getting hammered, completely hammered on whatever he drinks is good and would just take the piss out of every single contestant. And seriously, it's so incredibly funny. You think he's the model for these shows that are syndicated now? Interesting. No, I think very few people outside of the United Kingdom. No, I'm just saying but from the guys like what's his name? Who's the guy who produces American Idol? Oh Simon Cowell. Yeah, there could be someone there. Yeah, there could be something. He saw it and said, you know, that's a good bit. I think I can do better than that. I can be a bigger jerk. Because Terry Wogan is not a jerk because you agree with him. I was like, you're so right, Terry. I agree with Cowell.

25:52 But yeah, okay, and Terry would always say now watch for the feathers. You won't believe what's gonna happen. He would give away all the surprises. You know, it's like he's a total spoiler on everything. And then of course when the UK come around who haven't won in 20 years because the product they've delivered is so crap, you know, he would just be taking the piss out of the UK's entry. It's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Too bad he's not doing it this year. I'll really miss him. So that's big news in Gitmo Nation East and apparently it's also according to Ponder who twittered me this, it's blasphemy day in Ireland.

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Twitter Brain Damage, David Seaman, Social Media Simplification

Author David Seaman claims that frequent Twitter use causes the equivalent of brain damage by encouraging overly simplistic thinking and emotional behavior. Seaman argues that the 140-character limit boils down complex ideas into meaningless sound bites. The hosts mock the assertion while acknowledging the platform's limitations.

twitter· david seaman· brain damage· social media· sound bites

26:29 And he requests us to say something grossly insulting. To the Irish? I don't think so. To God, I guess. I don't know. I don't feel like it. I think he's just egging you on. He's probably got a bet down on it. Don't do it. I'm not falling for it. Well, since you talked about Twitter, right? Yeah. So here we go. More Real News. Oh, I'm sorry. And now, back to Real News. Now I always admire someone who goes out of their way to get some press coverage with some sort of a crackpot statement that they'll make publicly. So here's the headline. This is sent out over the MMD Newswire, which is a public relations distribution network.

27:14 Headline Twitter use causes serious in quotes brain damage media expert said Social media expert and author David Seaman offers the clear David seems that how do you take that guy? Yeah, yeah, what claims that frequent Twitter use causes the equivalent of brain damage quote We're seeing 30 and 40 year olds acting like overly emotional teenagers on Twitter semen said it's not all that healthy and Twitter also uses complex ideas, or no, Twitter also takes complex ideas and boils them down to overly simplistic sound bites, according to Seaman, who is annoyed by the service's 140 character text size limit. Unlike television, who of course are so in-depth and so healthy for you. Basically, Twitter has some good uses, but it's making us all a bit stupider.

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Tourette Syndrome Research, Brain Mapping, Frontostriatal Circuitry

Neuroscientists using magnetic transfer imaging (MTI) believe they have identified the part of the brain responsible for Tourette Syndrome. The research focuses on alterations in the frontostriatal circuitry and the prefrontal area. The hosts struggle with the medical terminology while discussing the potential for "hacking" the brain to treat tics.

tourette syndrome· neuroscience· mti· brain surgery· prefrontal cortex

28:09 Stoop stupider did he say stupider so it says stupider and made him stupider with that beautiful Well along the lines of brains when this of course flows into our conversation from the last show neuroscientists think they've identified the part of the brain that causes Tourette syndrome and The condition that causes random ticks including compulsive obscenity. How long before we can hack that part of the brain? So apparently if you use an MTI, a magnetic transfer imaging technique to scan the prefrontal area of the brain of the 19 Tourette's sufferers as well as 20 control subjects they found alterations in the... here it comes John because I know you were a brain surgeon in the past... a frontostr...

28:59 frontostracial circuitries frontostracial circuitries I could probably pronounce the word if I could see it but that's okay so and what are they gonna do about it? hold on let me Skype you this word I don't think anybody would want any except for the guys who cuss a lot you know when they did that special on Therese nobody bitched about it too much and they just lived with it Yeah, exactly. Well, let me see what they can do. So, changing the architecture of the front lobe lead to disinhibition of the cingulate gyrus and abnormal basangalia... I'm fucked. I'm a sick man. Who did you choose to read this story? I'm a sick man. I need help.

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Clean Water Restoration Act, UN Human Rights, Government Ownership

A listener raises concerns about the Clean Water Restoration Act, noting that the UN Declaration of Human Rights does not explicitly list water as a fundamental right. The discussion explores the legal theory that if Congress claims ownership of all water in the U.S., and the human body is 50% water, the government effectively owns half of every citizen.

clean water restoration act· united nations· human rights· congress· water rights

29:46 I want one of those MTIs. It'd be kind of cool to see my brain firing up in strange places. Well, that'd be interesting. That could be fun to do. There's a joke there. I'm not going to use it. Go ahead. No. Okay. Frontostriatial, yeah. Frontostriatial. Yeah, I think you had it. Hey Adam, in regards to Sunday's show where you discussed the Clean Water Restoration Act and the fact that all water in the US is subject to Congress, this raised a couple of points in my head. One, I've just read through the United States In the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, I found no reference to a fundamental right to water. The closest thing to a right to water in this document is located in Article 25 where it states, everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family including food. The question is, is water a part of food? But more importantly, if the human body is made up of 50% plus water, does that mean that if you are inside the borders of the US, Congress now owns half your body?

30:42 Think that's an excellent question since they'll all water on the planet That's a total New World Order move I'd say makes sense hey are you made of water? I'm sorry we own you come this way hey John Yes, could you turn on your speakers? Okay? I did. Thank you still so I'm self slapping back yeah Let's see, there's a good thing, people should use some stuff, some advice. If you get to watch the PBS show, I think it's running on different local PBS stations.

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

Behind Closed Doors, Stalin and Churchill, Bernie Madoff Frontline

The PBS documentary series "Behind Closed Doors" is recommended for its unique blend of dramatic interpretation and historical evidence regarding Stalin and Churchill. The hosts also mention a "Frontline" episode on Bernie Madoff, which features interviews with victims who lost their life savings in the Ponzi scheme.

pbs· behind closed doors· stalin· churchill· bernie madoff

31:24 It's a series called Behind Closed Doors. I've seen the promo for that. It's a multi-part series, I think. Yeah, it's a multi-part series and it's weird because it's a new model for a documentary. I've never seen this quite done this way before. It's essentially combining dramatic interpretation with actual documentary evidence. Plus, actual interviews with people who might then be played as a character. And it's mainly about Stalin. And it's absolutely... Stalin and Churchill. And by the way, if you're one of those people that don't... and there are people like this that don't... that dislike Churchill, you'll love this series. They just give it to him. And it's very interesting. It makes... it actually makes everybody look like a bunch of idiots except Stalin. But it makes him look like a psychopath, which of course he was, obviously, of some sort.

32:19 But anyways, outstanding, it's totally riveting, it's got great pacing, it's just really hard to put down. It's just an amazing series, I have to say. Is this currently running on PBS? Yeah, it was running, they had an episode last night. But I think you'll be able to track it down if you try hard enough. There's also a front line that ran this week on Madoff, and if you get a chance to see that, that's worth watching too. For no other reason than to watch, they brought out a lot of people that got scammed by him and lost all their money and now live in apartments. Boxed cardboard boxes. It's very interesting, their take on things. Can you burn a copy for me?

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Homeowner Hope Program, Lend America Investigation, Loan Failure

A Forbes report reveals that the government's "Homeowner Hope" program has only facilitated 51 loans despite hundreds of millions in funding. Of those 51 loans, 50 were made by a single company, Lend America, and are currently under federal investigation. The hosts characterize the program as a massive failure.

homeowner hope program· lend america· forbes· mortgage crisis· bailout

33:02 If I get, yeah, if I pick it up, if it plays again, I'll burn a copy for you. You remember as a part of the bailout, John, I think the, I forgot which one, but the, the some, one of the $800 billion bailouts, there was this homeowner hope program. We actually went through the website and we looked at, cause you know, this was in order to make loans affordable for people again. Yeah. And we kind of figured out how it works. Essentially your, your monthly rate is lowered. By it could be several hundred dollars in some cases even a little more extreme up to a thousand dollars But of course you actually wind up paying more over a longer period of time So kind of a it's like a refinance if if anything, but not necessarily in your favor long term so there was an interesting article in Forbes, which is talking and the article itself is Isn't really what I found interesting

33:51 New troubles for a troubled Washington mortgage plan. So one of the companies, and we even saw this on the homeownerhelp.gov, whatever website, that it was purely a marketing site. So there's a company from Melville, New York called Lend America. This is one of these outfits that I guess the guy has a TV infomercial and, you know, get your part of the bailout now. And you know, one of those guys, Nick, What is it? I think it's Nick Bratsosophilus. I'm terrible with reading today. So the loans that Lend America made under the program, 50 of them are being investigated. They're being held up pending ongoing federal investigations. But the news in the article was, it's unbelievable, senior federal housing officials say 51 of the loans made under the program, 50 were made by Lend America.

34:51 Let me wing that by you again. Of this program, 51 loans were made. 50 of them are under investigation. Well, there's two things that come immediately to the front. One, 51 loans, that's it? That's it. 51 loans is all that has been made under this homeowner help program according to Forbes, who I guess might have some of the facts right. Yeah, actually, Forbes is good about that. 51! 51?! That's ridiculous. What has this helped anybody? I thought they had hundreds of millions were set aside for this. Hundreds of millions of dollars and only 51 loans were made. Can we just say fail? Doesn't sound right. Well, I don't know. Force another one of these things. I mean, the whole thing is this. I mean, Obama's got too much. He's too busy giving speeches at AFU. To deal with any real news.

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Pakistan Instability, Taliban Drug Deals, Save Page As Technique

Chaos in Pakistan and Afghanistan is discussed, with reports of the U.S. military negotiating drug deals with the Taliban. Dvorak provides a technical tip on using the "Save Page As" function in web browsers to archive controversial news articles before they are removed or altered by mainstream media outlets.

pakistan· taliban· afghanistan· drug trade· internet archiving

35:56 So yeah, Pakistan's falling apart. They got the Taliban's taking over the place. They're gonna grab a nuke. So this is gonna drop it on Islamabad. Oh man, this is what I was talking to my to Ahmed about at the grocery store. And he's the guy is now visibly upset when I walk in not not at me, but he knows that we're gonna talk about shit. He's like, It's so out of control. He said right now in Kabul people are blowing themselves up left and right There's fucking shootings all day long right in the middle of the street. He's like it's it's complete now It's utter utter chaos. He said and and he showed me pictures because his brother just came back He showed me pictures look here Here's the US command and they're sitting down here with the Taliban and they're negotiating the drugs deal said all they're doing it's only for the drugs the guy is flipping out his whole family's there, you know, and

36:44 And it's just like, it's become the most unsafe place on earth. And this is not the way it's being portrayed to us in the media. Now we just get another surge. And why are we sending everyone to Afghanistan when the problems clearly are in Pakistan? Clearly! Well, we can't send our troops to Pakistan because they're our ally and they won't let us. I gotta find this, there was a quote from Who's the guy who runs the, uh... runs the army? What army? Who's...? Yeah, Pakistan's army. Uh, I don't know. Dad, I don't know. I know they keep showing him on TV all the time. Don't worry, everything is fine. Here it is, I got him. You're not gonna believe it. Now this is from... Oh shit! Of course now the link is gone. Oh, don't give me that shit. Oh no. Oh no, this is so wrong. Wait a minute, maybe I can still salvage it.

37:46 You have to save page as and I want to tell everybody out there to do this. You run into a really good article that seems a little sketchy because it's like why are they telling me this? Go up to the upper left hand corner under file and put save page as and it would be then you do scroll down where it says web page complete and then click on that. The page gets saved as a complete copy of the page with all the ads and everything and it's saved to a file. I keep them all separate from the rest of my documents so I can always access them if I need them. And then when one of these situations occurs like Adam's experiencing, you won't have the problem

38:23 Because stuff does get pulled off the internet, you know, and it never gets archived. And there's a lot of old, there's a couple of articles I've been wanting from the London Times back in 2001 that I can't find, that I had documented. That's when I got the clue about Save Page As, when something's really outstanding, you've got to do that. And by the way, for anybody out there, For anybody out there who is sending us tips and info, at least for me, please put no agenda on the subject line someplace so I can search these things easier. Because sometimes I have to find, because somebody will write me and then I'll have trouble finding the, what's it called?

39:05 What they had to say because they the subject line it doesn't say no agenda John. Thank you I have now recovered the article and I knew you were doing that appreciated. This is from the Press Trust of India They call themselves India's premier news agency Washington May 11th in a new revelation Pakistan president. I'm sorry Asif Ali Zardari Said the CIA of the United States and his country's ISI together created the Taliban. Here's the quote I think it was part of your past and our past and the ISI and CIA. They created them together. He apparently told an NBC News channel in an interview which I've not been able to retrieve. In the interview which was given to the NBC, so maybe it's an Indian NBC, on May 7th, Zardari also accused the US of supporting the military rule of Perez Musharraf who was alleged to be taking the side of the Taliban. So here's the guy saying

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

CIA and ISI, Taliban Creation, Asif Ali Zardari Interview

Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari reportedly told NBC News that the CIA and Pakistan's ISI worked together to create the Taliban. The hosts discuss this historical context, linking it to the book "Legacy of Ashes," which documents the history of CIA blunders and covert operations.

asif ali zardari· cia· isi· taliban· legacy of ashes

38:23 Because stuff does get pulled off the internet, you know, and it never gets archived. And there's a lot of old, there's a couple of articles I've been wanting from the London Times back in 2001 that I can't find, that I had documented. That's when I got the clue about Save Page As, when something's really outstanding, you've got to do that. And by the way, for anybody out there, For anybody out there who is sending us tips and info, at least for me, please put no agenda on the subject line someplace so I can search these things easier. Because sometimes I have to find, because somebody will write me and then I'll have trouble finding the, what's it called?

39:05 What they had to say because they the subject line it doesn't say no agenda John. Thank you I have now recovered the article and I knew you were doing that appreciated. This is from the Press Trust of India They call themselves India's premier news agency Washington May 11th in a new revelation Pakistan president. I'm sorry Asif Ali Zardari Said the CIA of the United States and his country's ISI together created the Taliban. Here's the quote I think it was part of your past and our past and the ISI and CIA. They created them together. He apparently told an NBC News channel in an interview which I've not been able to retrieve. In the interview which was given to the NBC, so maybe it's an Indian NBC, on May 7th, Zardari also accused the US of supporting the military rule of Perez Musharraf who was alleged to be taking the side of the Taliban. So here's the guy saying

40:04 That the ISI and the CIA created the Taliban, which I believe historically is true. Well, it's possible at least, because that would have made sense, because the Taliban was seen as, you create a fundamentalist organization that can then control the mess that was over there at one time when the Russians were invading. And, you know, why not? You'd come up with some crackpot scheme like this. Again, this, of course, harkens back to the Legacy of Ashes book that you cited before. Exactly. Which essentially is just a book documenting all these botches and blunders. I don't think that's in there, though. Not like... Well, there is a lot about... No, I'd have to go look. Actually, I gave my copy away. I have to go look at it. But what really blew my mind

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

General David McKiernan, Stanley McChrystal, Camp Liberty Shooting

General David McKiernan was relieved of command in Iraq and replaced by Special Forces Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal. The hosts discuss a shooting at Camp Liberty that killed five U.S. soldiers, questioning the official narrative of a "stressed" soldier and suggesting a possible connection to Nancy Pelosi's surprise visit to the Green Zone.

david mckiernan· stanley mcchrystal· camp liberty· nancy pelosi· iraq

40:54 You probably, you know what, you live in Gitmo Nation West, you probably did not hear that the David McKiernan, who was the top US general in charge of, in command essentially of everything in Iraq, was relieved of duty and replaced. Did you catch this? Yeah, that was kind of mentioned just as a quick news item. Okay, so how did that strike you when you when you heard that that he was relieved of command and replaced by? US Special Forces Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal did you did you sniff anything on that? No, I did not I just figured it was just a you know, that's our guy and that's Bush's guy Let's get rid of him. Here's the story apparently Nancy Pelosi was in Iraq. I presume in the green zone and

41:47 And she was there. Yeah, absolutely. Where else would she go? Well, it was a surprise visit to coordinate with Iraqi officials about the containment of the Kurdish regions, which you hear nothing about. There's a lot of crap going on there right now. Of course, you know, we're focused all over the map. But what happened is there was a shootout and this is just a source, right? So I don't know how true it is, but man, There was a shootout, five US soldiers were killed. Oh yeah, that was a big story here. Okay, but do you know who they apparently were killed by? By other dissident US soldiers who were freaking out. No, it was one guy. We were told it was one guy. Yeah, well no, it was more than one guy.

42:31 But Pelosi was there. Let me give you the story the way it's presented over here and then you can tell us what you're getting over there. It goes like this. Some guy goes in to get some help because he's freaking out about something. And he goes into the mental facility, or the hospital facility, to get some drugs or who knows what, according to what nobody says. He goes in there and he causes a fuss about something, gets pissed off, and he gets so agitated that some of the military police took his weapon away from him because I guess he was either brandishing it or who knows what. So he runs off and goes and gets another weapon and comes in and shoots up the place and kills five guys.

43:12 And then he gets killed and that's the end of it. That's the story. And that's pretty much it. And all the follow up is little news items about all the stress over there is bad. He's had his third tour of duty and that's too many tours for anybody and you know he was going to be, although he was going to be out of Iraq in August. So that's basically all we got. And we just take that as face value. It seems reasonable that it could happen that way. Well, so it seems to be, first of all, this is being reported by other sources to me as a deliberate attack on the Speaker of the House. And it all stems from

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Roxana Saberi Release, Kurdistan Conflict, Iranian Influence

The release of U.S.-Iranian journalist Roxana Saberi is linked to broader geopolitical shifts and secret agreements by the Obama administration. The hosts also note a lack of media coverage regarding Iranian attacks on the Kurdistan region of Iraq and the resulting tension with Israel.

roxana saberi· kurdistan· iran· israel· iraq

43:50 Iranian artillery and helicopter gunships that have started attacking Iraq's Kurdistan region. Now the Israelis are all bent out of shape. This ties right into the release of that spy, Roxana Saberi, right? The U.S. Iranian journalist. Did you catch that at all? Oh, right, right. The Iranian, right. That, yeah, she was released. Here's the way that story was presented here. This girl was over there, she's like an Iranian student or she was a journalist or something and she was floating around probably doing some, maybe not. But they arrested her and accused her of being a spy and they were going to give her 20 years in jail and that became a big civil rights issue and everybody's bent out of shape about it and now I guess they're releasing her. So she was released according to the same source

44:47 because of agreements that President Obama has signed. So there's stuff going on and I think we're just completely being lied to. I don't think we have any idea what's happening, but there are forces at work and shit is changing. And so apparently... So wait, now, there's two things you mentioned that are kind of interesting that I'm not following. I'm not getting any information on, thus I'm not following. One is the Kurdistan or the Kurd area of Iraq having some... Now that you mention it, we haven't heard nothing about this. I mean, we haven't heard anything about what's going on in Kurdistan or Kurd... whatever you want to call it. I mean, the Kurds call it Kurdistan.

45:31 That would be interesting to find some, maybe we have a listener that would clue us into the Kurd situation because we don't know. And the other thing is if there's an attack on, you think it was like an attack on Pelosi and it ended up with this cover story about the guy going crazy? Yeah, well I think that this is happening all over the world now. I believe that what happened in the Netherlands was an attack on the Queen. Maybe a warning shot more than an attack But yeah, I absolutely believe that those things are happening Let me read from this article, and I don't want to tell you where it's from because you'd only poo-poo it

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Israeli Lobby, Obama Foreign Policy, Nancy Pelosi Power Dynamics

An article suggests President Obama is launching an assault against the Israeli lobby to reshape American foreign policy. The hosts discuss the internal power struggle between the executive branch and Speaker Nancy Pelosi, suggesting she is acting as a "second government" and may be overstepping her authority.

israeli lobby· barack obama· nancy pelosi· boston review· foreign policy

46:09 Not being understood by the American people is that Obama has for the first time since the presidency of John F. Kennedy launched an all-out assault against the powerful Israeli lobby and that many experts say has corrupted American foreign policy and led to their disastrous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which a new survey by the Boston Review shows over one third of American people blame the Jewish people for the current global financial crisis as well. So this is obviously a very skewed article but that's the slant that's being taken here is that It's a... Are you reading this from Prison Planet? No. No, I'm not. All right. I'm not. You should actually tell us where you're reading it from. Well, read it first and then tell us the source. Well, I always put it... I always put the source in the show notes. Oh, okay. Never mind then. It's always in there. So you can... you can go right to the show notes and you can check it out. But it has some very good links to, you know, for instance, that survey by the Boston Review. I don't even know the Boston Review if that's worth anything.

47:07 But it's a good article and basically what it's saying is, you know, we're in so many conflicts and so many different moves and deals that are being made as we speak, but we're completely oblivious to it. That's kind of the essence of the article. And it makes sense because you could easily believe the attack on Pelosi story as you could just some guy who freaked out and went nutty. Five soldiers, by the way, being killed by one guy is pretty extreme. Yeah, but some more injured. Yeah. Well, somebody knows that real story there, but I'm sure they've all been signed and taken into a room and told not to talk. But yeah, it does sound dubious because once one gunshot is fired amongst soldiers that are war-hardened, I mean, these guys are going to be... They'll mess around, baby. They're going to be, right. They're going to be ducking cover and grab a gun and let's start firing back. Yeah, it is actually not to mention it, unless the guy came in with a

48:07 a machine gun and caught it and... Well we don't even know that! We don't even know that! We don't know anything. We have zero news. Zero news. And what the hell was Pelosi doing in the Green Zone? What was so important? It can only be if a power person had to show up to do something, and I would say make a deal about something. Pelosi's like becoming the second government. She's got to watch herself. She's the kind of person that will find herself with two to the head and a gun in her right hand. She could easily become part of the body count. I'm not saying... I think she's on very, very thin ice. She has to be careful. With that whole thing with Obama? Why is she playing this game? It seems to me that she's just getting a little carried away with being the boss. Well, it feels to me like, when I look at her, it feels to me like this is...

48:58 What can happen with power? This is a powerful woman who was given more power and she's just she just flipped out She's gone beyond and she must have some powers behind her which give her this confidence. Oh, they're probably Egging her on yeah Go ahead, you can do that. Go, go, go do it. Yeah, that'll get him. Come on, go, go, go. You're the boss anyway. Come on, you're the one that runs everything. You run the show. Come on, Nancy. You run the show. Don't kid yourself. That guy's just, you know, by the way, you know, Congress has got just as much power as the executive office. And this guy's weak. He's weak. Yeah, he's weak. He's weak. And look at your hair. It's strong. It's very strong. You have Samson hair. Meanwhile, talking about that, there was a story that also ran, which is similar. Now, she mentioned the two that had suicide.

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

CIA Congressional Briefings, Waterboarding Documents, Bush-Clinton Control

Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi and Carl Levin, accuse the CIA of releasing documents about interrogation briefings to deflect blame for waterboarding. The hosts argue that the CIA remains under the influence of the Bush and Clinton families, and that Obama's decision to stop releasing detainee abuse photos indicates he has been "brought into the fold."

cia· waterboarding· nancy pelosi· carl levin· george h.w. bush

49:45 that we do have on the blog about how a number of Democrats, including Feinstein and others, who has got her tit in her ringer for some dirty dealing, say that the CIA is after them. Did you see that? No! That's something I should be saying. The CIA is after me, John! Help me, Johnny Boy! Who's saying this? Politicians? Yeah, these Democrats. Let me go to the piece. Oh, we got a lot of good pieces by the way the

50:25 Who is investigating this claim that swine flu virus is created and blah blah blah. Let's go. There's another one. Student hoaxes the world on Wikipedia. Oh yeah, I had that one as some real news. You should read that because that's fun. It's sad because Jean-Michel Jarre passed and I didn't even know it happened. I had to read about Jean-Michel Jarre dying. Fantastic musician. One of the early synthesizer pioneers who did some... He was one of the earliest VJs in the truest sense of the word. He had visual light displays and lasers. This guy did some amazing shit and he passed away. No one knew about it until this story surfaces that some kid, what is it, he wrote a quote? He wrote a poem the guy supposedly wrote but it's all, the kid wrote it and attributed it to this guy and slipped it on the Wikipedia.

51:13 And let me guess, how many really authoritative organizations cut and pasted this blindly? Apparently a lot. That just goes to show. So Democrats charged Tuesday that the CIA has released documents about congressional briefings on harsh interrogation techniques in order to deflect attention away from itself. I think there's so much embarrassment, quote, it's from some quarters of the CIA that people are going to try to shift some of the responsibility to others. That's what I think said Carl Levin, Democrat in Michigan, who sat on the Senate. In other words, what it is, these guys who sat on the commission that would listen to them tell you, where were you waterboarding? And all these people that were sitting there going, OK, well, knock yourself out.

51:59 And then now because, oh it's bad, we should indict everybody, they take the other side, the CIA says, well yeah really? Here's some documents, you tell us what you didn't know back then. Yeah, exactly. And Pelosi right up front. Yeah, she's one of them, but I think they're nailing the Senators first. Well good, but I truly believe the CIA is still Bush Clinton controlled. I mean that's those guys have been running that shop for so long it's it's shit man. Bush senior basically created he created the whole thing it's it's his puppy it's his family it's his

52:38 It's his whole department. Those guys don't just all of a sudden work for the president and the Constitution. Kidding me? That's not how it works. Why would they? What's the point? Well, that makes a lot of sense then with President Obama now saying, oh, we're not going to release any more pictures of detainee abuse. I mean, now everything's shutting down. Now the transparency has gotten cloudy. Well, it's been getting that way since day one. Yeah, but now we're going to release this and then our night what changed? I mean, who came and had the meeting?

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Jackhammer Sex Toy Fatality

A brief news item reports on a woman who died after attempting to use a jackhammer as a sexual device. The hosts discuss the absurdity of the headline and the lack of necessary further detail.

jackhammer· sex toy· accidental death· johnny green· news oddity

53:15 Told Obama look here's the deal. Here's the way the games play Obama look let you hear a hair. Here's a ticket to Phoenix Take a ride, sonny Take a ride down to Phoenix and give a speech and we'll go fix things back here Don't you worry don't worry your pretty little head I? Can just hear Rahm Emanuel saying it that way too. Oh Hey, oh, oh baby. You just go on over to- you know what? It's lovely this time of year in Phoenix. You'll like it. Oh boy. Oh boy. Okay, so what else we got? Here's one. Back to real news. At least I punched it. Yeah, you did. You punched it. I'm just gonna read you the headline. Woman dies from using jackhammer as sex toy. Hey now! Hooga!

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Katie Price Split, Too Much Bling Campaign, UK Policing

The high-profile split of UK celebrities Katie Price (Jordan) and Peter Andre is mentioned as major news in Britain. This is followed by a discussion of the "Too Much Bling, Give Us A Ring" campaign in Gloucestershire, where citizens are encouraged to report neighbors who appear to have jewelry or lifestyles beyond their visible means.

katie price· peter andre· gloucestershire· crime stoppers· bling

54:13 And that one, that by the way, came in from Johnny Green. I have seen this article. I think it's been around. Johnny Green. So is there any detail on what kind of jackhammer? Was it pneumatic? Was it a black and decker thing? I don't think it's important. You know, that's just like details that are unnecessary. The headline is all you need, really. Isn't that the truth? Oh, dude, big ass, big ass Real News. And now, back to Real News. Katie Price, known as Glamour Model Jordan, and I'm sure you've heard of her, John. Oh yeah, I've heard of Jordan. Who of course has been married to the former boy band singer and successful in his own right, Peter Andre, are splitting up. This is huge. This has just captured the attention of the entire nation. They actually released a statement through their agent.

55:09 And because people thought this has to be a publicity stunt. They do this all the time when they're about to do another reality show. But no, this time it's for real. They are splitting up. Yes, she's choosing horses over him. This doesn't even show up on the radar over here. Of course, she doesn't care. Most of these types of people are very local. You will care about this. This is from the Telegraph. This is great. I am so... I probably... Oh, don't tell me another 404. Jesus. Unbelievable. I'm a dick that I didn't say these. Okay. I know the story there are now actual posters that are being posted in Gitmo Nation East If you feel that someone you see on the street or your neighbor. Yeah, we blog this already Let me just get it out and then you can do the details once you bring up the article from from your blog

56:01 If you feel that these people are wearing too much bling, you should report them. No, actually I don't remember that specifically. No, the poster says too much bling. Really? Yeah, let me find it. So wait a minute, you're telling me that somebody walking down the street with a bunch of jewelry or like say a clock around their neck or a bunch of big rings that are made out of fake gold or whatever or they just have a gold tooth that says, you know, eat shit on it across their mouth, something like that. would constitute too much bling and it should be reported. The latest original and some say ridiculous method of policing in Britain comes from the Gloucestershire Constablery. In a partnership with Crime Stoppers, the Too Much Bling Give Us A Ring campaign has just been launched. It hopes to put an end to ill gains by making regular people contact police officers once they suspect someone is wearing bling they can't afford.

56:59 How would they even know if it's real or not? I mean you can buy fake bling at any... You've got to see the picture. ...anywhere. Go to Canal Street in New York City, especially around, I think it's around Amsterdam Broadway, one of those streets is an area where you can buy all this stuff. Well this also just may be another part of the acta that's coming. It's a huge crackdown and maybe it's all about even fake bling. Look at this poster. Look at this poster with a little diamond bling ring. Too much bling? Give us a ring. Is someone you know living a lavish lifestyle from the proceeds of crime? Don't stand for it! Report it! Wow. Kitmo, fricking nation, man. That's unbelievable. No, we did not blog this. It's gonna be blogged as soon as we're done with the show, though. What did you blog then? Too much bling. This has gotta be an April Fool's joke. No, I don't think it is. I don't think it is. Huh.

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Neighbor Spying, Commie Comparisons, No Agenda Merchandise

The hosts compare the UK's "Bling" reporting campaign to the neighborhood spying tactics used in communist Cuba. The segment devolves into a humorous discussion about potential No Agenda branded merchandise, including jockstraps and codpieces.

cuba· communism· spying· codpieces· jockstraps

57:50 Don't stand for it. This is worse than when I was a kid. I remember, you know, when... Oh, here we go. I remember when I was a kid, we used to get in grammar school, we used to be told how horrible it is in Cuba because people turn in their neighbors for crimes they did. Everyone's spying on each other and Cuba's a terrible place because you're told to turn your neighbor in. Damn commies, yeah, damn commies. Those damn commies make people turn in their neighbor. And we all went, oh, that's terrible. Why would anybody do that?

58:28 It's cause they're commies, they're damn commies. So meanwhile of course we're doing this to do an extreme. In other words, don't wear any jewelry at all. It's nuts. No you can't wear fur, you can't wear jewelry, you can't wear fur, you can't wear jewelry, you can't wear sneakers made by underprivileged children. You can't go naked by the way, that of course is the ultimate offense. What's left? What's left? Just an armband? Well an armband and a jockstrap. Another premium item the Noah Jendis jockstrap mmm I'm liking that with with a cup pouch and we can cups old separately cod pieces would also be hot So let me read this story God

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Mexico Drug Decriminalization, Portugal Model, Money Laundering

Mexico's Senate approved a bill decriminalizing small amounts of narcotics for personal use to focus resources on cartels. The hosts discuss the success of a similar model in Portugal and argue that the U.S. financial system and Wall Street are heavily dependent on the laundering of drug money.

mexico· portugal· drug decriminalization· felipe calderon· money laundering

59:26 That's a t-shirt. You know cod pieces. You know we're do here. We go. What's the name of the guy who? Now we'll talk about later. I just want to read this article from Reuters This is we're sending by Ivan Silva who says this is a report you under reported news mm-hmm Let me say I was sort of reading it. Let me just summarize they've decriminalized drugs in Mexico really well, that's a solution and Mexico's Senate approved a bill on Tuesday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of narcotics for personal use in order to free resources to fight violent drug cartels. The bill proposed, in other words, to save money, which was my argument about doing the same thing in California. Because we don't have any money and this is a wasted effort anyway.

1:00:17 The bill proposed by conservative president Felipe Calderon would make it legal to carry up to 5 grams of marijuana, 500 milligrams of cocaine, and tiny quantities of other drugs such as heroin and meth. Hey! Hooga! New Mexico's Congress passed a similar proposal in 2006 but the bill was vetoed by Calderon's predecessor, Vincente Fox, under pressure from the USA. Ehh. So that should solve all the problems. You watch, problems will go away in Mexico. Done. Well, there was an article in the New York Times, by the way, not to harp on this issue, but there was an article in the New York Times talking about the decriminalization of drugs in Portugal. Yeah. And apparently after doing it, drug issues have waned. There's less people addicted. There's less drug use. It's all gone down. This is exactly what we talked about when I discovered it in the first place.

1:01:15 So there you have it. But, you know, I see that this is bringing more and more credence to your crackpot theory that the US government's essentially in the drug business. And I'll just explain it one more time. The way I believe it works is Wall Street was set up specifically because we learned all this. We learned this firsthand. You may not bring ten thousand dollars into the country or take it out of the country for that matter. without or the equivalent in stocks bonds paper etc without notifying the government Every entity, every body has to adhere to this rule except for publicly listed companies. They can accept money from anywhere without that going through IRS channels, without that being notified. And they have their own money banking networks. This is what Iridium does. They handle a lot of the banking. There's all these backbones, all these networks and how money is transferred and it's not through the regular system.

1:02:17 Now, if you take into account the mountains of evidence, the witnesses, the former officers who have come forward and just Google MENA Arizona, Mike Echo November Alpha, MENA Arizona, and you will see how involved Clinton was in this use of military aircraft to bring drugs into the country. If you haven't seen the fantastic movie with Denzel Washington, American Gangster, it's based on a true story. They brought in drugs in coffins of dead boys and girls. The Wall Street system and I believe a large part of the American economy runs on drug money. And the war on drugs was set up to pump even more money into the system. I mean, hey, we might as well make it on both sides. You know, we're making it with actually bringing the drugs in. Well, we might as well make a couple billion over here with our own defense companies by saying that we're combating it when really we're probably only shipping those arms out and trading them for more drugs.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Mena Arkansas, American Gangster, Casino Money Laundering

The hosts discuss historical allegations of drug smuggling in Mena, Arkansas, during the Clinton administration. They compare these operations to the film "American Gangster" and suggest that high-level politicians benefit from the drug trade. Dvorak also shares observations about the "high roller" rooms in Las Vegas casinos as potential venues for massive money laundering.

mena arkansas· bill clinton· american gangster· las vegas· money laundering

1:01:15 So there you have it. But, you know, I see that this is bringing more and more credence to your crackpot theory that the US government's essentially in the drug business. And I'll just explain it one more time. The way I believe it works is Wall Street was set up specifically because we learned all this. We learned this firsthand. You may not bring ten thousand dollars into the country or take it out of the country for that matter. without or the equivalent in stocks bonds paper etc without notifying the government Every entity, every body has to adhere to this rule except for publicly listed companies. They can accept money from anywhere without that going through IRS channels, without that being notified. And they have their own money banking networks. This is what Iridium does. They handle a lot of the banking. There's all these backbones, all these networks and how money is transferred and it's not through the regular system.

1:02:17 Now, if you take into account the mountains of evidence, the witnesses, the former officers who have come forward and just Google MENA Arizona, Mike Echo November Alpha, MENA Arizona, and you will see how involved Clinton was in this use of military aircraft to bring drugs into the country. If you haven't seen the fantastic movie with Denzel Washington, American Gangster, it's based on a true story. They brought in drugs in coffins of dead boys and girls. The Wall Street system and I believe a large part of the American economy runs on drug money. And the war on drugs was set up to pump even more money into the system. I mean, hey, we might as well make it on both sides. You know, we're making it with actually bringing the drugs in. Well, we might as well make a couple billion over here with our own defense companies by saying that we're combating it when really we're probably only shipping those arms out and trading them for more drugs.

1:03:17 And it's horrible, but it's what the economy runs on. You cannot legalize Marijuana possibly because it's not a very efficient drug when it comes to value for money you need a lot of it to make a lot of money and so it's it's not as portable as cocaine or heroin or or ecstasy for that matter I know people who are in the ecstasy making business in the Netherlands I mean it's not hard to figure out who's doing this stuff and these are A couple of parents, who, parents of one of Christina's girlfriends back in the British school of Amsterdam, they were totally running an e-pill company. They were doing a hundred million a year, John. And I know exactly how they whitewashed it, you know, always be on the lookout for studios and musicians, you know, that's a good way to whitewash your money.

1:04:12 And it's a fact and we should wake up and understand that that's what's happening and just by with the knowledge of it we can attack the problems differently. It's so stupid, so stupid. Well let's look at the logic of this argument and indeed there are money laundering operations everywhere you look. That's no doubt about it and I actually am suspicious of large Las Vegas casinos. Oh, well yeah, another perfect way to launder money. It's a cash business. I have been given tours of places and I've been in the back rooms where they have all the cameras. It's actually quite interesting to get into the bowels because there's actually a whole different world.

1:04:54 You open a door and you're in another hole underground place where there's... It's like backstage at Disney. It's wild. But anyway, there are rooms that in all the casinos, the high roller rooms, and they'll show you what they are and they'll say this room brings in $700 million a year and it's locked. And yeah, only if you are somebody from Saudi Arabia, you can get in there to play with somebody from Australia who's a gambler. And somehow the results in $700 million. I just find the whole thing to be...

1:05:31 quick sketchy yeah okay that's but now let's go back to this bargain in yours if you decriminalize drugs how would that's change anything except it would save us the money of the prisons that the prisoners and their law enforcement costs which is killing us oh yeah but i'm not looking at that i'm looking at the who are the people that have been if benefiting from this and this is uh... Wall Street companies, CEOs, it's not who you expect. It's not really Denzel Washington, although he traveled in exactly the same circles. This is high-level politicians, government officials who've been there forever. They're all a part of the system. And it's been a great cash cow for a long time. They don't give a shit about the economy. They don't care about you and I. All they care about is themselves. And they're hooked. There's no substitute for this.

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Opium Economics, Afghanistan Production, Taliban Disguises

The discussion focuses on Afghanistan's role as the producer of 90% of the world's opiates. The hosts argue that the U.S. government resists drug legalization because it would crash the price of a controlled cash crop. They joke about retiring to an opium farm in Afghanistan and the difficulty of Curry or Dvorak passing for Taliban members.

opium· afghanistan· taliban· decriminalization· economics

1:04:54 You open a door and you're in another hole underground place where there's... It's like backstage at Disney. It's wild. But anyway, there are rooms that in all the casinos, the high roller rooms, and they'll show you what they are and they'll say this room brings in $700 million a year and it's locked. And yeah, only if you are somebody from Saudi Arabia, you can get in there to play with somebody from Australia who's a gambler. And somehow the results in $700 million. I just find the whole thing to be...

1:05:31 quick sketchy yeah okay that's but now let's go back to this bargain in yours if you decriminalize drugs how would that's change anything except it would save us the money of the prisons that the prisoners and their law enforcement costs which is killing us oh yeah but i'm not looking at that i'm looking at the who are the people that have been if benefiting from this and this is uh... Wall Street companies, CEOs, it's not who you expect. It's not really Denzel Washington, although he traveled in exactly the same circles. This is high-level politicians, government officials who've been there forever. They're all a part of the system. And it's been a great cash cow for a long time. They don't give a shit about the economy. They don't care about you and I. All they care about is themselves. And they're hooked. There's no substitute for this.

1:06:18 You know, where as I'm sure it used to be coffee and tea and other light, mild drugs back in the day, which people love to have monopolies on. Think about the monopoly they've got. They've got the factory, which is Afghanistan. 90% of all opiates come from Afghanistan. It's the only place where they apparently can grow it properly or whatever. So they don't care about the economics of it, they only care about the price. And of course if it's decriminalized, then I believe the price will change drastically and they're not prepared to accept that. That's what the theory is, but I don't see that that's actually true.

1:06:55 Well, I mean that's what you I can see where somebody might fear that well, it's decriminalized so the pressure go down You don't think that will happen? Well be might maybe it wouldn't I mean, so there's gotta be a right but if they control the supply Yeah, then you say well, you know, you're either gonna pay a hundred bucks for this or you're not getting it hold on a second if you decriminalize and we have to be aware of what's going on and If you decriminalize, it depends on what kind of decriminalization. So possession would be one, distribution would be another. I don't think Portugal has decriminalized distribution and holding with intent to distribute. No, not at all. If they did that, well then it would be all over because then I could go to Afghanistan and we'd start up the no agenda opium farm. Yeah. Not a bad place to retire. We'd have to be in the Taliban though. I just spit out my tea.

1:07:50 It's about time. Can you see us in Taliban outfits? Yeah, that black turban and a big beard. Of course I'll have a... Since I can't grow my facial hair so sketchy that would be so this guy, you know, look like, you know, they would be questioning me constantly. You would look so fake as a Taliban. You would look so lame. I don't think you could pull it off, man. Who's this pale guy? Who is this pale-faced Taliban? That's some album art we're looking for. Could someone please do that album art in the next 15 minutes so we can put it up as a part of the show? It's a black turban and a big beard, that's what the Taliban is earmarked by. In the chat room someone, I love it when you look at this anagram, God is gold, oil and drugs. Oh, that's cute. So here's one I got from one of our listeners.

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Coca-Cola Cocaine History, Jean-Michel Jarre Death Hoax

A listener provides details on the Stepan Company in New Jersey, which is licensed to import coca leaves for Coca-Cola. The hosts then correct a previous error regarding the death of musician Jean-Michel Jarre; it was his father, Maurice Jarre, who passed away. They acknowledge how easily Wikipedia hoaxes can spread through the media.

coca-cola· cocaine· stepan company· jean-michel jarre· wikipedia

1:08:39 Cocaine. Northfield is the same zip code as Winnetka, where Rumsfeld is from, and Stepan Company is the one company licensed to import cocaine and the extracts. It's still used in Coca-Cola, which is not... It's a Rumsfeld company? No, it's just coincidental that it's in the same area where Rumsfeld is from. Sure. Coincidental. like the year of the pig swine flu. So he's got the Coca-Cola, I guess Wikipedia, of course he got that from Wikipedia so it's questionable but. Yeah, very. Since Pemberton called for five ounces of coca leaf per gallon of syrup, a significant dose in 1891, if it's just the leaves though that means it probably had all the other beneficial chemicals in it. Coca-Cola is probably pretty damn good I would think with this dosage. Have you ever smoked opium? No, I never have. Hmm, me neither. I was just curious.

1:09:35 I think yeah, you'd have to go. I don't know where you'd even do it. I guess there's probably still opium dens. I've seen one when I was up at near the Golden Triangle. I stayed during doing a documentary. I stayed with a Burmese Hill tribe and all I think I told you this before all the women run. Yeah, where's the horn honking? It's you mean this one? Okay, now you can continue with your repeated story. All the women basically run the village because the men are all in the opium den. It's really what it is. You walk in, these guys just completely... There's no chicks. There's no like fruit. Baked? Baked and flipped over thrice. I tell you, completely, completely baked. And that's all they do all day, just sit there and get baked. Eh, sad. I guess it's really addictive.

1:10:28 Yeah, well that's probably, yeah, I'm sure it has some benefits. After 1904 instead of using fresh leaves, Coca-Cola started using spent leaves, the leftovers of the cocaine extraction process with cocaine traces left over at a molecular level, supposedly. To this day, Coca-Cola uses an ingredient, a cocaine-free coca leaf extract prepared at a Stepan company plant in Maywood, New Jersey. Those New Jersey plants. Yeah, this Wikipedia, I mean, it's possible. Uh-oh, fail alert. I'm sorry, we screwed this up, didn't we? net Pierre just DM'd me on Twitter Jean-Michel Jarre is still alive it was his dad who died okay now I feel stupid we could have launched an entirely new piece of bullshit that people would be repeating in mainstream media can you just see him playing clips of his songs like oh he'll be severely missed and as heard on no agenda big fan Adam Curry said quote I will really miss his work

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Twitter Feature Changes, Identica, Celebrity Social Media

Twitter users are reportedly upset over changes to the "replies" and "following" features. The hosts predict the rise of Twitter clones like Identica and the eventual fragmentation of the service into specialized networks for geeks, celebrities, and other niches.

twitter· identica· social media· followers· microblogging

1:11:28 Sorry, sorry people. Well at least we have instant feedback. I love it. I love it. Twitter changed something that people are all up in arms about. Something about the friend following or something. Did you catch that at all? I'm sure it will be a topic not to be discussed on Twit this Sunday. I don't know but I lost 10 followers today. There's something going on with... they changed something. What they did essentially is took a feature away and that's always gonna give you a lot of noise from the user base. But there was something about how you could discover people and now the replies won't turn up unless you follow those people. It's weird. I don't know. Who cares? I do. I don't know why.

1:12:13 Because it's I become the big thing in celebrity bill. I mean that's all you article after article is there just all over the place Oh, everybody's in everyone is a celebrity now is in Twitter, but that's good Which is going to be dead by the way. This is a beginning at the end these people are Fickle no, it's not the concept is fantastic. I think identica will get some traction We'll just I told you this we're going to get all these These Twitter clones that'll work exactly the same. They'll work with your existing software, maybe one update so you can enter a different server and you'll have the kind of like the real new celebrity Twitter which may be the original. Then you'll have the geeky Twitter, the sex Twitter where you can just sex each other up. I see a universe of Twitters personally. Could be.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Bilderberg Meeting, Park Cognac Review, Dominic Park

The annual Bilderberg meeting has reportedly begun in Athens, Greece. Shifting to "Wine and Food News," Dvorak provides a glowing review of Park Cognac, an XO cognac produced by Dominic Park. He recommends it as a high-quality, affordable alternative to more expensive brands.

bilderberg· athens· park cognac· dominic park· xo cognac

1:13:04 That would be another one of you. I'm not going to say it's not possible. So here's the thing, let's see what we got here. Bilderberg started today. Yeah, yeah. In Athens. Do you have any insight on it? Nah, nothing. I'm just reading Prison Planet. While you're reading that, I'm going to go back to wine and food news just for a second for people because they always want us to say something. Okay. Wine and food news. We need a jingle. Wine and food news. If anybody likes cognac, I tried to, there's a new cognac out there. There's a British guy who used to work at Berry Brothers and Rudd, which is that wine store in Mayfair that I keep telling you to go get me something and you just basically shine me on and refuse to do it.

1:13:56 He quit, I guess he worked for his consultant. There's a picture of him on the website. Anyway, I guess he's gone to Cognac and he's scrounged up a lot of really old stocks that are here and there and he's produced a line of Cognac called Park. P-A-R-C or P-A-R-K? P-A-R-K, which is his name. And I think his name is Dominic Park. And you can go to the website, which is Park Cognac, I think. And you can see a picture of him and you go, oh brother. And he looks like a Monty Python character. And anyway, you can get an XO, which is really the sipping cognac you want because it's essentially designed to be

1:14:38 Sipped but it's also it's older and it has it's got all the qualities that you that cognac develops for about $65 you can get an XO from Park Maybe 75 at the most that is the equivalent easily of any of the other XO selling for 130 or 140 or 150 and in fact it may be better than all those it's an absolutely outstanding product that was stunned stunned by how good it is so that I rarely do this but I went to his website and I sent him a compliment. Whoa! Stand back. It actually was real work. Wow. So take a look for Park Konyak. I think you won't regret it. Actual work involved. This is something that would be bloggable. I think you'd like it. Judicial Watch. I love those guys.

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Judicial Watch, TARP Contracts, Bank Coercion

Judicial Watch obtained documents through FOIA requests showing that the Obama administration forced major banks to accept TARP bailout funds. The hosts discuss the specific four-point contracts bank CEOs were required to sign, characterizing the government's coercion of private financial institutions as a form of fascism.

judicial watch· tarp· bank bailout· treasury department· fascism

1:15:36 I think their entire business, which doesn't really seem to be a business, is sending out Freedom of Information requests. And they have received a number of documents which makes this whole bank bailout and the TARP fund seem very much like a Sopranos episode. Available now online and there are links there will be links in the show notes at no agenda dot me vo comm the not only the signature on a Piece of paper from each of the bank CEOs, but the actual talking points when the Obama administration forced forced mind you forced the banks to take money from the government and Have you seen these? Yeah, you didn't like him. I

1:16:26 About what? Well, the fact that our government did this. These guys... I thought this was true. What? Well, you're talking about... Are you talking about that they forced the banks to take money? Yeah, but they made them sign those contracts. Yeah, no, this is pretty well known. Did you read these contracts? I didn't read them, but I know that they're pretty onerous. That's why some of the banks said, look, we don't want to do this deal. And some of them currently, like Wells, is trying to give them the money back because of this contract. They think it sucks. Well, they're signing four points, basically. And so this is the first one which signed by, was this the Bank of America? They've literally written in the contract $10 billion.

1:17:09 Major financial institution participation commitment, hello, in support of the US financial system and the broader US economy, the, and then name of, CFO, agrees to Four points. One, issue preferred shares in the amount of, in this case, $10 billion to the U.S. Treasury under the terms and conditions of the TARP Capital Purchase Program announced today. Two, participate in the FDIC program guaranteeing new issues of eligible senior liabilities by banks and bank holding companies and transaction amounts as announced today under the systemic risk exemption invoked by the FDIC, U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve. Three,

1:17:49 expand the flow of credit to US consumers and businesses on competitive terms to promote the sustained growth and validity of the US economy, and four, continue to work diligently under existing programs to modify the terms of residential mortgages as appropriate to strengthen the health of the US housing market, which as we know resulted in 51 loans. This is pretty amazing stuff that they were forced to sign this commitment. Well, I don't see anything in there that's The fact that they're forced to sign it. Well, yeah, that's not good. No, that's fascism. Well, this has been the fascist country for a while. That's some level. I mean, you know, we've always thank you point more now point made when you say it then it then it's true point made done move on Johnny Pedia, ladies and gentlemen, right there, Johnny Pedia. When john says it, you know, it's true.

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony, Star Trek Numerology

The hosts conduct the "Knighting Ceremony" for producers who donated $50 or more, including John Kilburn, Joshua Brickner, and Elaine Hengem. They analyze various odd donation amounts, identifying "1701" as a reference to the USS Enterprise's registry number and discussing other numerological contributions.

donations· knights· star trek· 1701· numerology

1:18:45 And what I do know is true is that Bubba has been doing a great job of keeping us posted here and there on his various outlets. Yes, Bubba, absolutely, and we've had a number of fantastic contributors to the program. And we have some good artists that are helping us out. So let me mention some people that gave us $50 or more. Ah, hold on a second, if you don't mind, I'd like to bring us this little notification. In a world. We are the Knights of the No Agenda, Knights of the No Agenda, Knights of the No Agenda, and we suck. That's right, Knights of the No Agenda and we suck. We need Mark Russell. Anyway, so there's some one person out there laughing at that. Probably a guy named Mark Russell.

1:19:35 John Kilburn, by the way, we got no hundred dollar things this week and it was kind of actually kind of a disappointing turnout We have to I think we have to hound our listeners more and I hate to do that by the way John Kilborn $50 Joshua Brickner $50 Kyle Miller $50 Elaine Hengem I believe she's a librarian by the way. I'm a big librarian. Yeah, me too man. Smoking hot librarian with the hair up in a bun and the horn rimmed glasses and then in slow motion then she kind of whips her head around as her hair falls loose she takes the glasses off and then she straddles me. Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. Hi Elaine, thanks. We really appreciate it. Maybe we should make a recording of that and crack up. As her ringtone.

1:20:20 Cali- Ha! That's a ringtone. Good idea. We should do that. We should just on the show every so often we should just say certain things that would make great ringtones. John, John. People are going to like download them. 90% of what you say is ringtone worthy my friend. Calvin Perry. Now here's one that's a little off the wall. $64.21. What does that mean do you think? Hand it over again. What is it? $64 does Calvin Perry. $64.21. I have a feeling you know what it means. I don't he may have actually written and said but I don't remember it 64 I can do it while you're doing the next one I'll do a quick gmail search see if that pops up and then we have another one John Matthews another 50 and this one Ben Bruce Sala BRU SC ELA he gave us two donations and there must be some significance to this and that you can try to figure this one out $59 and then $1

1:21:19 Hmm. What do you think that doing? I'm not sure okay now and so far as the odd numerological stuff is keeping is still coming in and we have Unlike the past to not at all odd numerological. That's yeah, we'll never figure those out 902 902. Maybe it's from 90210, maybe he should have given us 902, $902.01 would probably be a really good donation. We'll make a jingle if anyone gives us 90210. Okay, 1701 by we got another 1701 we got one before we were kind of baffled by it But now we know what it is because number people wrote in and said 1701 is the designator on the Star Trek Enterprise of course Why how could we have missed it John? I'm wondering myself because I knew the number looked familiar. Yes, is that what's on the side of the USS Enterprise? Yeah, it's just this and that that's this ship number 1701. Tail number. Yeah, tail number.

1:22:20 1414 any idea no no 707 we got two 707 some two different people in it, which is like you know could be a Boeing 707 I don't know So nice number 707 just by itself is a nice number. It's a good number. Yeah, and then 2495 which just sounds like some that sounds like a deal like a We got a discount. Yeah, it sounds like a price wait. There's more for 25 We do get a set of knives Ginsu knives for you You get three sets These things are so cheap we have to give them away

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Outro, Layaway Program, Sunday Show Preview

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode by discussing a potential "layaway" donation program for listeners. They preview upcoming topics for the Sunday show, including the "Clean Plate" anecdotes and the Buffalo plane crash tapes. The hosts sign off from their respective Gitmo Nation locations.

adam curry· john c dvorak· layaway· buffalo pilot· moon rising

1:22:56 Lovely so people who want to donate especially if you're interested in getting a big call out go to Dvorak org slash na and One of our followers father Frank and Chicago father made an interesting suggestion which is that for people who want to be nice, but they really can't afford just giving us a thousand dollars because they can't and There may be some way we could put like a $50 a month or $50 a week thing and people can do it the slow way. Slow, painful way. Oh, like layaway. Yeah, layaway. Yeah, No Agenda layaway program. Yeah, I like that. There you go. Yeah, that's a pretty good idea. So we may do that. Well, John, I... Can you go to noagenda.com slash N-A. I could talk with you for hours, my friend, as you know. But I'd like to keep some powder dry for Sunday.

1:23:47 Got a few more items including the clean plate anecdotes which we still haven't gotten okay write that down I've written down here on the computer on a post-it note, okay? I've got moon rising which I need to talk to you about the buffalo pilot who failed five check rides And you know about the they've got the tapes out on that crash in the middle of nowhere with the girl pilot saying she doesn't know what she's doing. Oh really? Is that on the blog? I haven't heard those yet. No, it's not on the blog, but look it up. Okay, will do. Uh... Yeah. Just keep the notes. We'll be good. That was a fast show. Yeah, but we're still 124, you know, so it's time to end it. Yep. Coming to you from the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, in my covert crackpot command center, which seems to be less and less crackpot with every day that passes, I'm Adam Curry.

1:24:44 And from Northern Silicon Valley, the place that doesn't exist yet, it has actual temperatures. I'm in the Buzzkill bunker. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday, right here on NO Agenda.