Episode 963 · Sunday, 10 September 2017

Born This Way

Corporate scandals collide with atmospheric chaos as Equifax executives dump stock ahead of a massive data breach disclosure while Hurricane Irma bears down on the Florida coast.

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About this episode

Equifax faces intense scrutiny following a massive data breach exposing 143 million Americans, while CEO Rick Smith and other top executives are accused of insider trading after selling $1.8 million in stock. Senator Elizabeth Warren has called for a formal investigation into the six-week delay between the breach discovery and public disclosure. Body language analysis of Smith’s video statement suggests significant internal conflict, with theories emerging that the scale of the theft points toward a state-sponsored intelligence operation rather than a standard criminal hack.

In Florida, Governor Rick Scott has issued mandatory evacuation orders as Hurricane Irma approaches Lee County with catastrophic wind speeds and a 35-mile radius of destruction. The mass exodus has triggered fuel shortages and overwhelmed shelters, where an influx of pets is causing sanitation and safety concerns. Meanwhile, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has launched a massive Department of Defense-backed vector control operation to combat mosquito outbreaks following Hurricane Harvey. In the political sphere, archival footage of Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer reveals a stark shift from their previous hardline stances on illegal immigration as the DACA debate intensifies.

Steve Bannon’s 60 Minutes interview has sparked a feud with Cardinal Dolan over the Catholic Church’s economic interests in immigration policy. Elsewhere, Lenny Dykstra utilized Periscope to offer unsolicited marriage advice to Lena Dunham, and Dennis Rodman detailed his karaoke sessions with Kim Jong-un on Good Morning Britain. The program also pays tribute to the late science fiction legend Jerry Pournelle following his passing at age 84.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

Equifax Data Breach, Cybersecurity Failures and Executive Stock Sales

Equifax revealed a massive cyber attack impacting 143 million Americans, exposing sensitive data including Social Security numbers and birth dates. Critics and lawmakers like Elizabeth Warren have called for investigations into why the company waited six weeks to announce the hack. Reports indicate three senior executives sold $1.8 million in stock shortly after the breach was discovered, though the company claims they were unaware of the incident at the time.

equifax· data breach· rick smith· elizabeth warren· cybersecurity· social security numbers

00:00 Hashtag DACA. Tracking Irma, Jose and the Algos! And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin-Tejas capital of the drawing star state In The Cluedio. In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm overlooking my Equifax report... ...I'm John C. DeVorelli. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Yeah we're screwed Oh yeah This is one of the best news stories that has come out

00:42 I know. If it wasn't for these hurricanes, they could really do something with this story And they should and so should Elizabeth Warren She should be on every Sunday morning news show! She can make hay with this? I haven't seen her Did you just corner yourself into arbitration by admitting that you had requested your report or your protection No, I didn't do anything actually That's what everyone is now saying Just some background Equifax this is Let's go background to the background. This is a racketeering operation all right you may continue In the United States of Gitmo nation we have a couple of services and they actually three Equifax what are the three? I don't know there's three Equifax Interfax and old facts All right facts fact-check false fact check false

01:38 And these companies track your credit score based upon some magic formula, and your life is pretty much beholden to it. When I moved back to the United States in 2000... was it 5 or 6? Something like that, later than that Anyway, when I was a kid and have these services. Well, I didn't have any credit history and then I couldn't do anything like Just recently actually you it didn't have you couldn't do anything until like about three or four years ago I could barely rent an apartment without getting a co-signer right? Or no one apart had to pay six months in advance member at San Francisco Yeah, we trust you pay us six months in advance but you know, I haven't done the bat signal haven't done any of this stuff

02:28 Well, why don't you give us a little background on the... The background for before the Backgrounder. Do you have any clips for this? Well, yeah I do. Yeah let's play the clip. The massive cyber attack on the credit report company Equifax has already triggered a class action lawsuit and calls for congressional investigation. Equifax revealed on Thursday that hackers earlier this year stole the personal information of 143 million Americans. Here is Chip Reid Equifax keeps track of the credit ratings of American consumers, which means its database is a massive treasure trove of personal information including birth dates social security numbers and addresses. Aviva Leighton is a cybersecurity analyst This is basically the Irma data breaches It's at 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 for the hackers it's like finding a gold mine And they can take out a mortgage they can file tax refunds

03:27 for social security benefits, you name it. They can take all your benefits away." What should your average consumer do? Consumers need to be hyper vigilant and monitor their accounts. I apologize to every affected consumer. Equifax CEO Rick Smith posted this statement on the company's website. While we've made significant investments in cybersecurity We have more to do and we will. Maybe so, but this is the third major hack of Equifax in less than two years. It makes you wonder did they do as much as they could've done? Critics also wonder why Equifax waited six weeks to announce the hack and they want to know why three senior executives sold $1.8 million dollars in Equifax stock soon after the hack was discovered. Equifax says that the executives did not know about the breach at the time

04:18 The perpetrators of the hack have not yet been identified, but some experts say these massive hacks are often done by international cyber criminal organizations who then sell the information to Russia or China for millions of dollars. Chifri, CBS News Washington I'm surprised we haven't already blamed Russia or China Why haven't we blamed anyone? There is no, not a word. Not a single word about who might... Usually with a hack like this immediately there's information about who it might have been and of course they have hired a private security firm one recently acquired by FireEye pew-pew pew-pew

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

Equifax Executive Stock Sales, Insider Trading Allegations

The timing of Equifax executive stock sales is scrutinized following the disclosure of the May-June data breach. While some argue the sales were part of a standard post-lockup schedule, others find it unlikely that the CFO was unaware of a breach of this magnitude. The discussion notes that internal corporate gossip usually spreads quickly once a security incident is identified.

insider trading· 8k filing· cfo· stock lockup· corporate gossip

05:02 So they got those guys instead of having the feds. They got the pew-pew guys! Yeah, they did. Pew-pew pew-pew we've gotta threat vector map here Let me start backwards with that report there's a lot of this... Bahh the insider sold so corrupt I'm gonna have to say no because they disclosed..I read the docs it was 8k is that what it is? They disclosed the hack, which they say started somewhere between May and June. In the same report, which you do, which you file. You file that insiders sold stock and these guys have been locked up for a number of years so it was kind of normal that they were going to sell after the lockup and I'm pretty sure this breach was not known until long after it occurred So this shaming of these executives...I'm not buying that Well, I will buy it

05:57 Uh, I can't completely buy it because you'd think they'd sold more. That's what I'm thinking. How stupid are these guys? They only sold like a million that's like nothing, especially if you're going to get busted for it. Yeah. But anytime something happens in these companies, I don't care if there is small company of five people or, you know, you have a lot of people hundreds of thousands even the word gets out It's a gossip mill, these companies. All of them and if one guy knew about the breach I'm sure within no time at all everybody kind of least had an inkling something happened. Well it's...I think on their part it's defensible we'll see but that the CFO didn't know seems unlikely but again they say this is when we think it started that's not necessarily when they discovered it. I didn't see a date of we discovered this on this date

06:52 That wasn't in the filing. Yeah, it's just a sloppily run operation. Well not only that... It's shameful! Shameful! They should be shut down But this website they put up which you know WordPress with all its vulnerabilities some kind of some there was I read there was some issue with their certificate wasn't reverse verifiable and you know asking for the last six digits of your social security is very abnormal Yeah, I had... There was a rumor going on that you could put anything in there and they tell ya yeah. I tried that it worked for me couple of times just putting in random numbers. It didn't work for me. Did not? I put a bunch of random stuff in there says now your good! Oh, yeah, he said yeah you're good to go so they should have spewed that back saying invalid but it's not looking at the... It's not looking at anything And then this as far as we know

CHAPTER 03 / 47 Discussion

Equifax CEO Rick Smith, Body Language Analysis

An analysis of Equifax CEO Rick Smith's video statement using Bombard's Body Language techniques suggests he was reading from cue cards rather than a teleprompter. The evaluation highlights specific "tells," such as mouth pursing and eye squinting, which allegedly indicate internal conflict and stress regarding the "unauthorized access" claims. The analysis concludes Smith is primarily concerned with protecting corporate partners rather than individual consumers.

rick smith· bombard's body language· teleprompter· micro-expressions· edelman

07:48 Nothing touched the core databases. What is that about? The core database, the program we need to know what these guys are doing it I you know when I was looking at this story like what can I do to Dig a little deeper in this and then went ah because I'd already gotten the clip which I'll play for you Let me I played for you right after this one. I got the body language language lady She evaluated his video these CEO Rick Smith of Equifax This should be good. Yeah, you know the video very stoic very stiff it seems and this is Bombard's body language you can find that on YouTube link in the show notes And I don't know what he's reading off his eyeballs are moving to an extreme Oh, oh, he's reading of course He's reading yeah, no he's reading but i don't know if it's like a big board

08:39 It's somebody thought it was not a teleprompter. It was obviously aboard held near the because it was off to the side It wasn't that where our prompters located which is right at the lens Yes, so if somebody who's holding up a big sign with all these cue cards yeah cue card So what we're looking for as lies or other types of emotions that are slipping through The guy has a lot of tells he has a lot of Doing this and a lot of pursing his mouth. And here is the here's the rundown Let's see earlier today We announced a cyber security incident that has impacted those who rely on us to protect their personal information What and we can with that? Mmm hold the mouth shut

09:21 Let it go. Paused on that one, refocused on the words you're reading That's why we see the squinting in the eyes as usually on screen right now because that was a big statement He is reading and as will find he did not write this On July 29th of this year We discovered that attackers had gained unauthorized access to certain Equifax data files We acted immediately To stop the intrusion Just on that for minute July 29th here we are September They had a lot of time to talk about this. So they should have either a lot more information by now, don't you think? I don't know what's been going on with this company. I don't think they're competent enough to really develop it. I agree. Here we go.

10:05 to stop the intrusion. We promptly engaged a leading cyber security firm which has been conducting a comprehensive... Now he's just reading you a list of facts, that's it and his brain is not stuttering on it. ...review to determine the scope for the intrusion And his body is singing with him now when she says his body is singing that means that he's completely at ease, he's feeling good, his movements are good so whatever he's reading he feels confident about even though he's reading So his mind agrees with the words that he's reading off that paper The unauthorized access occurred between mid-May and July. Unauthorized, let's go back and look at that. The unauthorized access occurred between mid-May and July. Hmm... I don't know we can go back to that. The unauthorized access occurred between mid-May and July

10:50 He's got conflict. There is conflict in the mind on this, that what we're seeing it's not deception it's conflict in the mind and maybe conflict that that's what they know so far and they are now actually sure on the extent and doesn't seem to really share on the unauthorized. That I like that interesting. Well that was interesting because he already said it was July 29th What's he talking about now? Well, because of the unauthorized. It may have been an inside job is what I'm reading into this Yeah you know I did more I look at this report I keep thinking I've been taking inside job files are too big yeah Let's continue. I'm pleased to report that the review found no evidence of unauthorized activity on our core credit reporting databases No evidence of unauthorized activity

11:40 Wait a minute. Now I'm confused. Okay, yeah now I'm confused as what he said let me roll up... I've been confused since the beginning and they're not actually sure on the extent and it doesn't seem they're really sure on the unauthorized. I am pleased to report that the review found no evidence of unauthorized activity on our core credit reporting databases. On the core databases? What is this just the marketing database that everybody's in everyone's in it This is clearly a disappointing event. And that was an act, okay acting that little mouth and then head down to the moment that was an act one that strikes at the heart of who we are and what we do I deeply regret this incident and more acting i apologized every affected consumer and all of our partners

12:30 The partners, there's stress in the partners. Now that's the big thing so everyone is like oh it's about us but their business is not us they don't give a crap about the consumers as he continues to call us He cares about the partners thats where their real business is his and their partnerships I apologize every affected consumer and all of our partners And where do we see the stress in partners? Watch here, both of them do it on Partners. She shows this freeze frame with his eyes and he looks really worried. Cool though when you catch it! Those are those past movements. We all know that the threats to data security are growing by the day I know you'll all agree that our first priority must be to support consumers Together we will serve our customers, support consumers and strengthen our data security capabilities He's got a lot of confidence in their response abilities In the process, we will build a stronger company with many great days ahead This is my commitment to each of you

13:32 and all of our valued partners. There you go, so the takeaway from this is he's worried about the actual unauthorized access to the core database He doesn't really know that for sure and he is very concerned about partners About their partners which is pretty much everything anywhere that deals with finance and consumers Why couldn't just say people? Americans or whatever It's just annoying. I don't know and they've hired Edelman so they've got the right people on it, although i would say you want the other guys uh they're all owned by the same three companies now it doesn't really matter okay

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

Intelligence Agency Involvement, Large Scale Data Theft

Speculation arises that the Equifax breach may have been the work of an intelligence agency rather than a standard criminal organization. The sheer volume of the data stolen suggests a level of processing power and intent beyond simple identity theft for profit. One theory posits that an agency might have "stolen" the database to replace a failed internal backup.

intelligence agency· data theft· identity theft· database· hacking

14:16 This is this is very bad, and it's kind of well. I'm wondering if this was done by an insider Or if really this outside hack you know who this a big file You don't really need to get anything that big to make money stealing Identities and all the rest you don't need that It's just like why why bought would you know it's like buying into army tank? You'll do so you can get go up and down the freeway. It doesn't make any sense." I think it was an intelligence agency. What would they do with that kind of information? They don't already have access to it? Well, they're the ones that can handle that kind of information for starters. I think there's something up in the intelligence agency had to steal the database. Hey man! Our backup failed. Can we have yours? We need a list of everybody.

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Mark Zuckerberg, Dominance and Body Language

Mark Zuckerberg's public speaking posture and eye contact are analyzed as intentional displays of dominance and control. The evaluation compares his stiff, upright seating position to the character Data from Star Trek, describing his appearance as "eerie." The segment briefly touches on fringe theories regarding "homo capensis" and Zuckerberg's long head shape.

mark zuckerberg· data· star trek· homo capensis· psychology

15:08 I got another just for you. I got a bombards body language evaluation of Mark Zuckerberg who you made a a Morning and grown in about a great sits Yeah, back straight mark back straight. Yes dad yes Would you like a little evaluation of why I was lucky here that sure let's see earlier today We announced a cyber security incident that has impacted those who rely on us to protect their personal information And we can with that mmm hold the mouth shut You're playing the same clip paused on now. I'm sorry how did I do that?

15:45 By pushing the button. Yeah, wrong one so for me the thing that I was really fascinated by and it always have been is People right and how people work You see how he's sitting straight up, hands on his knees. Head up chin level where as opposed to this guy who is mirroring Mark He slightly angled down in the face so he submitting to mark. He's covering. He's open. He's dominating the space and he is purposely doing this and we will I'll show you how I know Is people right? And then how people work people right? Um, you know what it was in college I studied psychology and computer science

16:24 Very long, intense eye contact. He's purposely doing it looks away shortly purposely doing that as well thoughts come through and gives a break but is to dominate And you know, one of the things that you learn when you study psychology is that there are all these parts of the brain which are geared towards a certain type of behavior. They can relax and be relaxed as well. So it's a relaxed atmosphere when your personality As his is to dominate in control You're never going to let them relax And here's the thing about this video when you watch it when he's doing that stare that she spoke about He looks just like his eyes look just like data from Star Trek Yeah, I'm telling you It is a dead ringer very eerie yeah

17:26 I think the guy's creepy. Well, maybe he has homo capensis capability... his head is rather long Maybe but he's procreated so did they adopt or they have their own dad a child right? It was theirs. I believe it is there's yeah because you know They can't procreate Well that doesn't mean well okay we talk about that later but let's get back to this Nobody knows what we're talking about. The homo capensis? Yeah, we have not really discussed it. No this is the world's longest tease! We're not going to discuss it today either. No, we are not going to do that at all.

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

Steve Jobs, Nudity and Dominance Tactics

A historical anecdote from a Vanity Fair article describes Steve Jobs' alleged habit of putting his feet up on tables during meetings while wearing loose shorts and no underwear. This behavior is characterized as a deliberate, albeit disturbing, tactic to dominate and unsettle colleagues. The story was reportedly confirmed by a guest on the program Silicon Spin.

steve jobs· vanity fair· silicon spin· dominance· office behavior

18:11 There was so much interesting news. And... Is that the end of the analysis of him? I mean, it goes on forever. I just want to do this stick up his butt thing. So it's... Oh send these! Yeah, I didn't realize that was a trick. Yeah and he's doing it on purpose and if you- He is really manspreading which is the interesting part. He has his hands on his knees and legs apart with this, you know, with that straight back and that is dominant position but it is manspreading Well, he could have... I guess Steve Jobs could have learned a couple of things from this guy. A lot of people can learn things from this guy. Jobs used to put his legs up on the table and then show us nuts! Wooo! And? Have you seen them?!

18:53 I never saw him. I haven't seen Steve for... well he's dead now, but last time i saw him was in the 1980s. Did you ever see Jobs Nuts? No why would I see his nuts?! Well you just said that's what he used to do! That was written up in Vanity Fair, a very elaborate article. Oh hohoh, I didn't know this And it became part of the movie And he, I had the guy in Silicon Spin. The guy wrote the article and he says jobs would disturb people because you'd throw his, he'd wear these kind of comic book guys shorts and then he throws legs up on the table and no underwear on it is nuts who were there for anyone to see apparently. And that was some sort of dominating thing, I guess? I don't know maybe just a,

19:36 You could look at it any way you want, I guess. But I didn't have any idea that sitting up straight like that was an idea...was a way of dominating people. Yeah apparently or according to Bombard, Bombard's body language on the YouTubes! I would give her the credit. I mean, I'll defer So we have hurricanes approaching Miami as we approaching Florida as we speak and i got a text from... Hold on a second Wasn't this big whopper supposed to hit, according to our last show on Thursday it was supposed to hit the mainland on Saturday morning. Yeah well... It didn't? No! Funny how that works and these are the great models and you know everybody on the East Coast is completely prepared and I can even sense a little bit of disappointment just I'm not kidding

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Irma, Florida Evacuations and Media Coverage

Hurricane Irma is tracking toward the Florida coast, prompting mandatory evacuation orders for the Florida Keys and surrounding areas. Governor Rick Scott issued urgent warnings for residents to leave immediately as the Category 3 storm threatens triple-digit winds and significant storm surges. Media reports highlight the logistical challenges of the mass exodus, including fuel shortages and reaching shelter capacity.

hurricane irma· rick scott· key largo· evacuation· storm surge

18:53 I never saw him. I haven't seen Steve for... well he's dead now, but last time i saw him was in the 1980s. Did you ever see Jobs Nuts? No why would I see his nuts?! Well you just said that's what he used to do! That was written up in Vanity Fair, a very elaborate article. Oh hohoh, I didn't know this And it became part of the movie And he, I had the guy in Silicon Spin. The guy wrote the article and he says jobs would disturb people because you'd throw his, he'd wear these kind of comic book guys shorts and then he throws legs up on the table and no underwear on it is nuts who were there for anyone to see apparently. And that was some sort of dominating thing, I guess? I don't know maybe just a,

19:36 You could look at it any way you want, I guess. But I didn't have any idea that sitting up straight like that was an idea...was a way of dominating people. Yeah apparently or according to Bombard, Bombard's body language on the YouTubes! I would give her the credit. I mean, I'll defer So we have hurricanes approaching Miami as we approaching Florida as we speak and i got a text from... Hold on a second Wasn't this big whopper supposed to hit, according to our last show on Thursday it was supposed to hit the mainland on Saturday morning. Yeah well... It didn't? No! Funny how that works and these are the great models and you know everybody on the East Coast is completely prepared and I can even sense a little bit of disappointment just I'm not kidding

20:34 Yeah, everyone's happy but I sense just a twinge of disappointment. But Horowitz's Tiki Hut still stands there is water on the... So far. Did he send you a picture? Send me the picture. I got a picture in the newsletter but I don't have an updated picture Oh no, he showed me the updated picture with palm trees blowing in the background and there's definitely water coming up a little bit BUT The Tiki hut still stands! He got lucky I'm sure if it went up the other side, he would have been... T-Cat would have been washed away. Now we had the news media really trying to prepare us for this fabulous event which so i mean things will happen. Biggest in history! Yeah biggest ever and things i'm sure will happen as this is a show day and it's now rolling up the coast Is it hugging the coast? As predicted in the yet again updated uh...? As far as i can tell it isn't hasn't hit Florida yet So we don't know anything. Here i got new sounds

21:33 Yes, uh John I'm right here. Uh we're out here at the Kiki Hut doing everything we can to- Fabulous report Adam fabulous report. Glad you stuck it out and hung in there stay safe! Alright! How'd... You like that? Do you like my new sounds? I liked it that is the sound of hail or something banging into the mic. I even put a crack made a little crack in the microphone here so get like the crack that like did you hear me pounding the mic yeah this is pounding the mic

22:20 It's perfect We didn't need your extra sound effect Pretty close to the real thing Makes you wonder So the question is, you know... let's just say this. Go ahead Well we do have a couple of reports that I've collected As do i And the one that we want is the new one which was the one that was Saturday morning when it was supposed to already hit But it is the... I think its where they got here Yes, Thermo Saturday Good evening, I'm Elenke Hano in Key Largo. This is our Western edition The Sunshine State is taking its first blows from Hurricane Irma Power was knocked out to tens of thousands today as the outer bands of the monster storm started lashing South Florida tomorrow

23:11 morning the Keys are expected to take a pounding before the category 3 storm barrels up the Gulf Coast. Cities including Naples, Fort Myers, Sarasota and Tampa are now expected to get battered with triple digit winds and possibly a 15-40 storm. million people live in areas under hurricane warnings. More than 7 million in Florida and Georgia have been urged to leave their homes and get to a safer place. The storm killed more than two dozen in the Caribbean here in the keys evacuation orders are mandatory still some have chosen to ride out the storm

24:05 Hurricane Irma's tropical force winds lashed the Keys this afternoon, hours before the storm's expected landfall. Florida Governor Rick Scott's warning was unmistakable. Do not wait evacuate not tonight and not in an hour you need to go right now The islands could be swamped including half of the island Did you know Rick Scott every time he comes on has got a different translator for the deaf? Yeah Have you seen the Italian guy? No, I saw the lady. I didn't see the Italian guy Well there's...I've seen two or three different ladies but there is this Italian guy He is tall he's a big Italian guy and he has got like a day's growth beard and looks very Italian

24:51 And he's hilarious. His eyeballs are bulging out and his mouth is opening and closing, and he's flaying his arms all over the place. It's the funniest thing you've ever seen. I gotta watch this. Rick Scott is so non-dynamic that... He's in a wheelchair, so then, you know, I'm gonna give him that but no, no, it's your governor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry mistake. Rick Scott is also not dynamic but You have to, he has these pauses in between everything. Just boring. All these guys are boring. The Italian guy makes up for it! Good good and I'm always watching the hand signer. Well this guy is so curious So much more interesting like oh that seems cool language Yeah i actually would like their look...I saw somebody signing the other day in a store and I said jeez I wish they could understand what they were saying

25:44 All right, continue with this report? Yes. Continue. Key West the storm surge is predicted to be five to ten feet anything over three feet is considered life-threatening It's time to punch out and we need to get out of here. Punch out! Last minute evacuees from the barrier islands filled up at this turnpike rest stop one of the only places still selling gas We've been working really hard last couple like probably week trying to get everything buttoned up We don't know what we're gonna come home to long-time residents known as conks have been through many a hurricane But Irma they say is different. You left a lot of people back there my mom and my aunt

26:25 and my in-laws. County officials opened four refuge sites on the Keys for those who stayed behind to ride out the worst of the storm, one of those is Key West High School We're not certain that the Key West high school was even gonna save them so we're worried about the people we love Across the state at least 330 shelters are open 11 of the 42 in Miami-Dade County are at capacity including those that are pet friendly about 175 miles northwest of here is the city of Naples one of the jewels of Florida's Gulf Coast it's expected to be one of Irma's first stops as it rumbles towards Tampa Jonathan Vigliotti is there. There was a good report on I think it was The Weather Channel about

27:12 dogs. It's a real problem and there are so many dogs that are associated with humans, many people having multiple dogs they show up at the shelter and it's as many dogs as people and it's a problem you can't...you know? You just can't have animals roaming around the whole time they're fighting their barkin' people can't sleep and of course they have to you know do their business There is a lot of complaints! Poop is the word yeah poop I have a few responses from the Democrats on social media which i'd like to share with you regarding Hurricane Irma. Is this going to be entertaining because it's from Facebag? Yeah! Here we go. Social Media, okay now you're talking. Can't wait for Irma to smoke all them Trump supporters in Florida That's one

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Irma, Pet Management in Shelters

The influx of pets at hurricane shelters has created significant noise and sanitation issues for evacuees. Many people arriving at shelters with multiple dogs have led to reports of fighting, barking, and hygiene problems. The segment emphasizes the difficulty of managing large numbers of animals in confined emergency spaces.

pet friendly shelters· animal behavior· hurricane evacuation· dogs

26:25 and my in-laws. County officials opened four refuge sites on the Keys for those who stayed behind to ride out the worst of the storm, one of those is Key West High School We're not certain that the Key West high school was even gonna save them so we're worried about the people we love Across the state at least 330 shelters are open 11 of the 42 in Miami-Dade County are at capacity including those that are pet friendly about 175 miles northwest of here is the city of Naples one of the jewels of Florida's Gulf Coast it's expected to be one of Irma's first stops as it rumbles towards Tampa Jonathan Vigliotti is there. There was a good report on I think it was The Weather Channel about

27:12 dogs. It's a real problem and there are so many dogs that are associated with humans, many people having multiple dogs they show up at the shelter and it's as many dogs as people and it's a problem you can't...you know? You just can't have animals roaming around the whole time they're fighting their barkin' people can't sleep and of course they have to you know do their business There is a lot of complaints! Poop is the word yeah poop I have a few responses from the Democrats on social media which i'd like to share with you regarding Hurricane Irma. Is this going to be entertaining because it's from Facebag? Yeah! Here we go. Social Media, okay now you're talking. Can't wait for Irma to smoke all them Trump supporters in Florida That's one

CHAPTER 09 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Irma, Political Vitriol on Social Media

Social media posts from political opponents of Donald Trump have drawn criticism for wishing destruction upon Florida residents who support the President. Various users on platforms like Facebook and Twitter used hashtags like #DACA while expressing hope that Hurricane Irma would specifically target Trump supporters' homes. The commentary notes the extreme level of polarization and lack of empathy in these public statements.

social media· trump supporters· daca· political polarization· twitter

28:09 I hope Irma leaves all these Trump supporters homeless and humble their asses. Nice! Hey, Trump supporters who live in Florida stay there. Irma's for you don't come up north we don't want you. Do these dipshits have any clue that it was at least probably it was pretty close to a half-and-half votes or half of the people that were Hillary supporters? No, but also they may not realize well let's continue to read. Yeah I keep going Can we just put Donald Trump and all his supporters in a house right by the ocean when Hurricane Irma supposed to hit first? Hashtag DACA Here we go Michelle I wish there was a way to direct hurricane Irma to trump his family and its current supporters now that's really kind Oh wow

29:04 Hurricane Irma needs to take Trump and his supporters away. Hashtag defend DACA I hate to be cruel and all but, I hope Irma also destroys the homes of Trump's supporters! Trump's home, Austin's home, Walter Palmer's, Enric Scott's, ah! Hurricane Irma needs to land directly on America where all of Trump and his supporters are so we can rejoice to mother nature And finally, we should round up all the Trump supporters and leave them directly in Hurricane Irma's path. It's really sad! The beautiful loving people of America wishing death and destruction upon people. Supporters no less I mean supporters like you're a supporter of the Red Sox You know your supporter of... nahhh... the 49ers

CHAPTER 10 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Irma, Wind Radius and Lee County Landfall

Meteorological data indicates that Hurricane Irma's most destructive winds are concentrated within a 35-mile radius of the eye. Landfall is projected for Lee County, Florida, which triggers a brief discussion regarding the county's namesake, Robert E. Lee. The segment notes that while the storm surge is a major threat, wind speeds drop off significantly outside the immediate eyewall.

eyewall· lee county· robert e lee· storm surge· wind speed

30:04 Any more random teams you want to name? No, that's about it. Warriors! I could do warriors, bulls and the heat and i'm done. I do have a clip from... By the way, I should mention there was a good report on CBS describing finally getting down to the nitty-gritty about this giant storm and out at the uh yeah you know like what's going to happen on the east coast well there will be a store a surge because there's gonna be that's part of Storm where you have a lot of action in the in the drink, but either winds are only gonna be you know Probably 40 50 miles an hour on the Tiki Hut max the Tiki We need a Tiki measurement system. Yeah, we need to be The string is nine on the scale It's only within two 35 mile radius Of the eye where you have the so-called eyewall where you have those hurricanes

30:57 It was high speeds, 150 to 180 miles an hour. So if you're not within 35 miles of the eye it drops off rather radically. It's raining and it's a mess! But it's not. Now the eye is apparently to make, this is great, to make landfall in Lee County named after Robert E Lee I might add. Deserves it! Facebag post coming! That's right John! It's county! Tell us more! There are a lot of statues there! Yes well Lee County was um...

CHAPTER 11 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Harvey Recovery, Texas Mosquito Vector Control

Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced a massive vector control operation to combat mosquito outbreaks following Hurricane Harvey. The state is partnering with the Department of Defense and federal health agencies to conduct wide-area aerial spraying. The standing water left by the storm has created a significant health risk, and the federal government is expected to fund 100% of the initial 30-day spraying effort.

greg abbott· vector control· mosquitoes· aerial spraying· department of defense

31:51 God, I love that. Let's listen to Texas Governor Abbott since we're on hurricanes talking about something very important that is now happening in Texas because we're not done with Harvey We still have a lot of issues and it's going to take a long time to clean up. Well, the sewage there is all kinds of disease. I want to talk about some current and looming healthcare-based issues A key issue that we are focused on is vector control for mosquitoes The state of Texas has a vector control task force working with... So how do mosquitoes not get blown out into smithereens? No, now they come. This is mosquito season all you need is a little bit of standing water in Texas and you're done! You got mosquitoes and they're horrible

32:45 Horrible. So this is going to be a big problem. The issue that we are focused on is vector control for mosquitoes. We have, the state of Texas has a Vector Control Task Force working with local officials as well as working with federal HHS as well as Federal Department of Defense. We are prioritizing areas for aerial spraying, local spraying has already begun state spraying should begin this week the Department of Defense will help with wide area spraying 100% of the funding for all of the vector control spraying that will be paid by the federal government

CHAPTER 12 / 47 Discussion

Economic Impact of Disasters, New York Fed Analysis

William Dudley, President of the New York Fed, suggests that while hurricanes initially disrupt commerce and raise prices, the long-term effect can actually boost economic activity through rebuilding efforts. This "broken window" economic theory is met with skepticism, as historical data often fails to show a clear net positive from such destruction. The disruption makes it difficult for economists to read accurate data in the months following a major storm.

william dudley· new york fed· economic growth· gdp· rebuilding

33:32 For spraying that is done within the first 30 days. I don't know why Texas would allow the government to spray its citizens, but okay Sure it'll be sure it's all good Some of you guys tell you drop two chemtrails a jingle in there you and I thought it was a little too obvious Okay. Big question is obviously about the, uh what kind of economic impact do hurricanes have? And I was quite surprised to hear President of the New York Fed William Dudley say the following... You know first consequences it actually pushes down economic activity because it disrupts commerce and disrupts the ability of people to do their business also will tend to push up prices initially we saw Hurricane Harvey a big increase in gasoline prices

34:18 But those effects tend to be pretty transitory. The longer run effect of disasters, unfortunately is that it actually lists economic activity because you have to rebuild all the things that have been damaged by these storms so... I think that when we think about the impact of these storms, first of all it's going to make it very difficult to read the economic data over the next few months because its hard to know exactly what the data would have been X the hurricanes. And then second I think you'll actually end up boosting the economy as we get later this year. I hate to ask but is there a point at which a storm becomes so damaging that the normal rules that we talk about, which is this dip and this return don't necessarily apply. I know it hit Sandy and bounced back from that there was little effect but the trajectory of this storm looks different." Well it could stretch out that period of disruption so I think the amount of time in which the storm has had negative impacts on economy could be longer if those destructions more severe and more widespread Do you think thats true? That actually boost economic growth

35:24 I don't, from his argument. I'd say yeah because they I went back and I looked to see economic differences in previous hurricanes. I couldn't find any art walls you can't find anything you want anymore on Google obviously it's just impossible. No not the stuff you screwed but I couldn't find anything that backed that claim up but he is from the New York Fed and he might know Yeah, I would hope he knows. He might know but the best clip i have for you and there was a lot of even you know...I'm all about weather modification earthquake machines we had a lot of different things going on just in this past week and we need to talk about them the earthquake in Mexico also large-scale X flares solar flares like it we had a 9 x flare that's pretty decent

CHAPTER 13 / 47 Discussion

Michio Kaku, Laser-Based Weather Modification

Physicist Michio Kaku appeared on CBS to discuss experimental technology using trillion-watt lasers to precipitate rain and lightning. Kaku noted that the CIA allegedly attempted weather modification during the Vietnam War to flood the Viet Cong. While the technology requires existing water vapor to work, it is presented as a potential future tool for managing droughts and steering hurricanes.

michio kaku· weather modification· lasers· cia· vietnam war

36:17 And that can disrupt a lot of things, but it also does stuff to the weather. On CBS and I mentioned that specifically as you have coined it the Central Intelligence Broadcasting System we find our friend Michio Kaku the scientist talking about controlling weather how it's applied, how it's done and some interesting little gotchas in here. You know they were talking about climate change yesterday and now we're learning that scientists and researchers are looking at how to change the weather on purpose That's right lasers now. Lasers? One day manipulate rain and lightning CBS This Morning contributor Michio Kaku is a physics professor at City College of New York

37:05 Nice to see you. I mean lasers really to change the weather? That's right Well as Mark Twain once famously said everyone complains about the weather, but no one ever does anything about it Well instead of doing a rain dance We physicists are firing trillion watt lasers into this guy To actually precipitate rain clouds and actually bring down lightning bolts This is potentially against But this is experimental. It's experimental, however in the laboratory so far it works when you have water vapor and you have dust particles or ice crystals you can precipitate rain it condenses around the seeds these seeds can also be created by laser beams by firing trillion watt lasers you rip apart the electrons creating what I call ions and these ions act like seeds like dust particles bringing down rain and even lightning. Go ahead

37:58 We have some of these capabilities now? Inconclusive. Even in the 60s, the CIA used this to bring down monsoons during the Vietnam War to wash out the Viet Cong. Governments have been playing with this thing... Alleged too! I love this so he's the first one to bring up CIA on the CIA broadcasting system. Say, Bob, well the CIA used this in the 60s even though it's unconfirmed and conclusive that it works yeah we tried to drown get monsoons and flood Vietnam And then she jumps in, oh alleged! Alleged! Let's not get any trouble with it. Defending HQ. Defending the boss. Oh yeah

38:37 The CIA used this to bring down monsoons during the Vietnam War, to wash out the Viet Cong. Governments have been playing with this thing... Alleged too. Alleged too right? Yeah. Now we realize that for decades... Wait a second then we'll talk about it. I'm sorry just excuse me. People use alleged when they don't need to It gets better In the 60s, the CIA used this to bring down monsoons during the Vietnam War. To wash out the Viet Cong. Governments have been playing with this thing... Alleged too! Alleged too right? Yeah Now we realize that for decades now these governments have been alleged to have experimented He does it himself. Alleged. Oh shit I forgot to use the alleged word The agency they told me

39:22 You had a gripe about nefarious use of the ledge? Is that at the end of it? Well, that's not the end of the clip. Oh no then play it out I don't want to go disrupt it. ...to wash out the Viet Cong governments have been playing with this thing... Alleged too. Alleged right now realize that for decades now these governments have been alleged to have experimented with weather control but nothing This time we're bringing in the laws of physics rather than simply waving our hands and uttering mumbo-jumbo. We're actually using trillion watt lasers now, and in the laboratory sure enough they precipitate rain out of water vapor sure enough you can actually bring down electricity down the beam So what does it mean for drought areas that need to have rain for crops? And if they don't have them there's

40:09 in the consequences of famine? Well, the bad news is if it's a clear blue sky it's not going to do anything at all because it only takes water vapor that's already in the air and condenses it. However for floods for agriculture farmers or people planning waiting parties football games you name it outdoor events and agriculture and flooding even hurricanes all them could be subject to weather modification Uh-huh And just looking at the track and all of the models that claim that it was going to hit Florida head-on, maybe we should be looking at something else besides this news story if this thing was pushed. You know? Just push it away and then... We won't kill anybody. Well you want to pushed away from Mar-a-Lago! Well I don't know how much control they have. The best thing about this clip is from 2013

CHAPTER 14 / 47 Discussion

Climategate Emails, Sam Harris and History Revisionism

A discussion on the Sam Harris podcast regarding the "Climategate" email scandal is criticized as an attempt to rewrite history. Harris suggested that Russia may have been the source of the hack, while the hosts argue that the content of the emails—which suggested data manipulation—was proven true despite subsequent investigations. The segment frames this as a broader trend of media figures dismissing past scandals as foreign propaganda.

climategate· sam harris· scott adams· russia· propaganda

41:06 Nice good. Good gotcha how about that and while we're on it? Let's open the gate for a moment The climate gate the emails remember the emails were the falsified information about eight years ago Yeah, falsified information have been these emails every once in a new falsified information story comes up in the news talk about it. And do you remember that they said that they had been hacked? That, oh these emails have been hacked and it looks like it might've been changed... Do you remember that little narrative they had running? I think there may have been an attempt at that but then it was verified now that didn't get very far well It was brought up again on the Sam Harris podcast worth a listen What was Climategate and how did that affect

41:58 the public perception of this issue? At the end of the day, the... At the end of the day. ...emails were subject to six or seven investigations and found that there was no there-there. I will say that we never found out the source of the hacking but in light of recent events, I think the most likely scenario is Russia between obviously their attempts Why is the guy talk so added delay dollars he got something like stuck at his nose, okay? I thought it was a lot with

42:48 There was no there, there. I like this again one of these examples we use on the show a lot to try these attempts to rewrite history by just lying and lying and lying about something that is proven to be true and just saying you know it wasn't true didn't happen no no no it did happen yeah well That's a good one. What podcast was this? Sam Harris, Sam Harris is a major major left-wing guy, you know Hillary Super Hillary fan hates Trump the Scott Adams did a podcast with him that went on his podcast Oh Okay, it was alright Anyway I think we can conclude that the

CHAPTER 15 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Irma, St. Martin and Barbuda Destruction

Hurricane Irma caused catastrophic damage to the islands of St. Martin and Barbuda, with officials estimating 70% of homes on St. Martin were destroyed. The U.S. Department of Defense began evacuating hundreds of Americans from the island, though some residents initially reported a lack of clear evacuation plans. The storm's path through the Caribbean has left thousands homeless and seeking international aid.

st. martin· barbuda· evacuation· department of defense· hurricane damage

43:37 The climate models, or the weather models in this case weren't too good. There was only one spaghetti string that kind of had this path And now let's look at the solar flares. And by the way, this path isn't finished. Oh we have no idea where it is going to go I don't think anyone has an idea It could bounce off of Naples or wherever it is in Lee County and it could bounce out and hit back into the ocean and just whack the west coast Or it can move toward Orlando which I don't think will do That would be against all the rules. You know that's where Disney is so Disney did nothing can be destroyed there, right? So they can't get within 35 miles of Orlando will fire up the trillion watt laser And just move it over here. Yes in the back Louisiana Don't take the heavy rains because it's it's we caught cleans to the place especially the Sleeping Beauty's castle very difficult to clean that tower

44:41 So they'll soap it up, and then that rain will come through and get the sucker clean as a whistle. I'm going to think that there's really not gonna be that much damage. There'll be a lot of water but I really feel... And I've been telling Horowitz all weekend, I don't think so man! I know why but I'm no scientist. As I said, I'm looking at all these maps in even teenage like once it hits that the Straits of Florida then we'll get more power from the war. It did but it just seems like it doesn't want just doesn't want to do its job But if his job was to destroy St. Martins and Barbuda, he'd wipe out those two places. And so on St. Martin the US military came in evacuated all American citizens and there were two Brits? And the military said yeah I'm sorry we can't take you, you're not American citizens! It looks like no one came for them

CHAPTER 16 / 47 Discussion

Hurricane Survival Stories, Condos and Boats in Mangroves

Various unconventional survival strategies are discussed, including boat owners who tied their vessels into mangroves in hopes the natural barrier would protect them from Irma. Other stories involve residents staying in high-rise Miami condos with metal shutters or self-built reinforced homes in Puerto Rico. The hosts express a desire for follow-up reporting to see which of these methods actually withstood the storm's force.

mangroves· miami· puerto rico· hurricane survival· boat safety

45:39 from the UK. The hurricane spared Puerto Rico from a direct hit, but St. Martin fared much worse. One official there estimates 70 percent of homes on the island are destroyed. Some Americans are trapped and say the situation is dangerous and terrifying. We just do need to bring attention to the fact that there are Americans here with no evacuation plans from either the Dutch, French or United States government

46:21 The Department of Defense says it started evacuating Americans from St. Martin, more than 150 evacuated yesterday and another 700 were moved out this morning. I just thought that one woman said there's no plans we're stuck here and then meanwhile well now the official report is being they're being evacuated yeah so I wonder you know the one other things i've noticed and there's another this one last I don't want to keep playing these clips but I've got this weird clip that showed up what was on I think it was on CBS is that this is the Irma's or my boats in mangroves play this

47:00 I don't know if there's anything on the water that is going to be fully safe. No, this is four times larger than something that came through here 25 years ago." All the boats you see here right now are normally not here what people have done is tuck them in and tied them up along the mangroves to try to protect them those mangroves should provide a natural barrier and they think the boat will be okay unfortunately many people have also made the decision to stay on those boats Why are you staying? You think you'll be all right? Yeah, we have big water tanks in the boat. A thousand gallons of water in the boat to keep it down and just sit here and just... Not recommended! Yeah I know If they choose to stay And this is a tough decision that they're gonna have to make There's going to be time In this area that were in That could be up to 72 hours before we can even come down here And if they yell for help We cant provide it Which is why there's part Why we give those evacuation orders

47:59 It is one of the heartbreaking realities here for police that once winds reach that sustained level of 45 miles an hour, they cannot and they will not... Now I there's a so here's what i've been watching. There we and we heard reports over probably the last three shows two shows um There was that woman who has the house built out of iron or something, and she's glass can't be broken by bullets. And she's staying in her house and there was a couple that I didn't get a clip of it they're on this Miami condo right on the beach. And they are gonna stay there and oh you know its dangerous should go to no we're going to stay. The thing about the condo is it had metal window covers

48:45 So you could, your windows had a kind of porch and then you had your big doors and windows there. And then these metal things go right over it. Right. Then they have these people in the boats who are going to push themselves into mango groves! I have no idea what that's all about but apparently this these groves are designed to take beating And so they're in there. So now, and then there's another guy in Puerto Rico we heard that clip before the guy says oh yeah people are afraid because their houses aren't well built I built my own house I know how strong it is. This was going to be disappointing to me they're not gonna follow up on any of this

49:23 No, why would they? They're not going to go back to the old man in Puerto Rico. They're not gonna go to the people that were up in the condo. I want to know what happened! Unless he's dead and mangled and arms sticking out of some rubble then they'll go back Well that you might be right, but I would like to get a follow-up report on all these people the people in the boat who? Want to hear what they had to say oh my god. I'd never do that again because it's we're sick as a dog The bow is being thrown all over the place or maybe not no No, well, we'll never find out will be back to Mueller investigation by tonight So I said BC is already doing that they're already doing that so but did I think there's a lot of

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Earthquakes and Solar Flares, Ring of Fire Activity

A massive 8.1 magnitude earthquake in Mexico and significant X-class solar flares have raised concerns about increased geological activity along the Ring of Fire. The tectonic shift in Mexico was reported to be as much as 50 to 60 feet. Speculation follows regarding potential volcanic eruptions in the Pacific Northwest, specifically mentioning Mount Rainier and Mount Shasta as active threats.

mexico earthquake· solar flares· ring of fire· mount rainier· volcanoes

50:05 But here's what I'm always thinking. You've got these, there are some houses that stand up to these storms in fact when they went out to Barbuda and they showed them the place is flattened but there's a place or two that's just still there made of cinder block or whatever. Oh yeah well was it Hemingway's house? I saw a report on that. Then the, it's a museum and the caretaker he was interviewed- It's out on the cape? Yeah! He said this thing has been around since 1900s is made of pure stone it's not going anywhere. This is wooden houses we build shit houses in America We really do overpriced wood and sheetrock. Well in California you have to build a wooden house

50:51 Yes, that's true. Otherwise the... Well let's talk about that for a second because we had so and I'm gonna go back to these to the solar flares these these solar flares are of significant importance to me for number reasons first of all it can disrupt ham radio transmissions and you can tell them you know the bands have been definitely problematic but big flares like this influence things on the ground here on earth And this Mexico quake, from what I understand the... and you'll know this better than I do John. The plate that the Pacific plates or whatever that is shifted under the West Coast plate? You'll know these names hopefully for like 50 feet, 50 or 60 feet shifted under that plate. Yeah it happens That's a pretty significant move It's about right

51:48 I'm expecting a few more earthquakes. There's gotta be, that is... A move like that is-I think there's gonna be more and... Well, I mean there are two theories to these quakes one of them it upsets the balance and things have to readjust up and down that rim of fire as they like to call it. The ring of fire? Yeah, ring. The Ring Of Fire which was also the earthquake. You're thinking something else! And so anyway, shifting has to take place That's theory number one that can happen with a quake. The other one is that it was a release. So it was like you've got some tightness over with. Oh, so this was a tension release? And you get no earthquakes after that yeah okay it's possible When there is a big move like that It seems to be more of the latter I think I don't think we're gonna see by being just overdue quakes around here That's for sure but there are also some reports and I don't have any clips of this But if you read it round enough Mimi's reading them She likes reading about this stuff They all the Ring Of Fire has a bunch We have a bunch

52:52 unresolved volcanoes on the West Coast that could still go off. And one of or two of them, it looks possible they could and including Mount Rainier which would be a water... That would be a big one yeah! ...and also Shasta and a couple in California People are thinking that we're gonna have a volcano eruption probably in the next couple years as long as is not Yellowstone that will probably disrupt things quite a bit. And it could be in California, could be in Oregon or could be in Washington which is where all the volcanoes active volcanoes exist Yes we have active volcanoes in California My friends who follow The End Times and Tribulation say that although this is not... We are not yet in tribulation Wait for it! Hey you know You can't do this on M5M media because you get laughed at So I might as well just... Yeah yeah I shouldn't be laughing at ya

53:52 Because God knows it could happen. Yes, here's what could happen the theory is two Hurricanes will be followed by three earthquakes So that's it well we've already had three hurricanes followed by one earthquake So they got two more. The total is the same Two more, two more to go The total's the same but the numbers are wrong Two more to go I am just throwing it out there It's like all the celebrities that die in threes At age 27 with a white Bic lighter Weapons of mass destruction meet the end Big news! Did we mention on this show that the white Bic lighter was not invented in time for 2 of these deaths? You did now

CHAPTER 18 / 47 Discussion

Stanford AI Study, Facial Recognition and Sexuality

Researchers at Stanford University, led by Mikhail Kassinsky, developed an AI algorithm capable of detecting sexual orientation from facial images with high accuracy. The study, which used data from public dating sites, claims the AI can distinguish between gay and straight men with 92% accuracy. The hosts argue the study is being used to support the theory that sexuality is biological rather than a choice, while questioning the validity of using curated dating profile photos as a data set.

stanford university· artificial intelligence· gaydar· mikhail kassinsky· dating sites

54:41 Algo time. Algo, algo time! Big news from the algo world This was a fantastic story that came out in The Guardian about new artificial intelligence that can detect the sexuality of people and I think everyone's discussing... No sexual orientation Sexual orientation i'm sorry and I think everyone is missing a couple of big points. I do have a backgrounder actually From have any clips because I was looking for a clip. Yeah, I got a clip. I got a clip This is one of the researchers from Stanford who produced this study and it's a real problem by the way What? Nevermind just go on

55:25 A study published in a peer-reviewed journal suggests that machines could have better GADAR than humans. It's all arisen out of data analysis of dating sites, and one of the authors of the study, Mikhail Kassinsky joined me earlier—he is an assistant professor of organizational behavior at Stanford University—I asked what he wanted to achieve with this study? Well, we're trying to sound an early warning related to the fact that it is now possible to use AI technologies to infer our intimate traits. So first of all this is not really reported anywhere except in a BBC interview. The point of the study was to show how dangerous algorithmic computing resources can be

56:10 That's not mentioned. I like that that's why they did it, but I see a lot of problems with this. It is now possible to use AI technologies to infer our intimate traits from different types of digital footprints in the past we have studied likes and status updates and other types of digital footprints this time We turned to facial images that people are leaving behind while using internets and digital products and services Right, you got all your images from dating sites I think? We got the images from a publicly available dating website and also from some participants who volunteered their images to our research. Okay but as i understand it if you have a randomly selected group

56:52 of men, and you have five images of each man. You will predict around 47 times out of 100 if someone is gay. You'd be right! 47 times out of a hundred... but that's not very good is it? Sorta 50-50 That's well, that's very good. I think the fair comparison is when you look at just comparing between a face of a straight man and a gay man and in such case the accuracy would be 92%. Just another issue is you talked about the physical features jaw shape and that kind of thing. Stop stop

57:29 So that was interesting you had to listen. I don't think the reporter was getting it, no He says if you have he said 92% is what the accuracy is yes between straight and gay If you have a mix yeah Which is high? Yeah now we had a clip some time ago from one of the TV shows which exploited this because they've studied human behavior And most men or and women can spot a gay face And it was introduced into a drama that was one of these, and I think we have a clip. I don't know if you could find it might be under gaydar or something like that but the 47% is out of general population is that you can pull because there's only a small portion of the population that's gay depends on who you talk to between five and 10%, maybe less

58:20 So if you can pull those out at a rate of 47%, that's actually quite astonishing. Yeah, although I'm... But it is different than the 97% or whatever he said. Right but hold on a second and let me just finish the clip it's only 35 seconds just finish the clip and then we'll talk about this. And in such case accuracy would be 92%. Just another issue is you know you've talked about the physical features of jaw shape and that kind of thing to what extent did your algorithm rely on more socially determined things such as hairstyle? Using all of the features altogether obviously provides for the most accurate prediction but just using morphological features, so just the shape of your facial features. Such data is already pretty revealing allowing for predictions of an accuracy above 80%.

59:15 So yeah, very high although I'm pretty sure if i looked at pictures from a dating site My gaydar would detect 90% accuracy Maybe. Because there's a big difference between... But you're looking and you have experience, and you're older and you have this scene and all those other variables. We are talking about a computer. You make it but you're making my point. It would be even easier in audio. If you give me 10 guys who talk, mature guys who are on the dating site which is where the data comes from, you gonna hear the gay guy!

59:55 You see, this is... I don't think that. I disagree with that. Oh! I think you hear a lot of gay guys. I think i can get 90 percent. But once you get outside the, what I would call the gay stereotype areas where they like to be gay- Who's on a dating site? Thank you. You're making my point. Who's on a dating site? Why are you stopping me?! Because I had to remind you. If you go to Iowa or let's say to the Midwest in Kansas In fact, there was a whole special on KQ- on PBS News Hour regarding this is that most of the gays in the country dislike this stereotype gay that we have out here on the West Coast. The guys who... It's not just on the West Coast!

1:00:46 It's everywhere. But hear me out... That was what the report was about, it's not everywhere! No, the report is saying something different. I'm sorry the actual study. I'm talking about what they were discussing on NewsHour. Okay but i'm trying to make a point. We'll go on Fisher Point and then I'll argue later. I want you to listen, I want you to listen to what I'm saying. The data they used was a dating site So it's either going to be straight, gay or bi. And I'm pretty sure... Said a lot of volunteer photos were sent in? Some not a lot some but look i read the report and looked at the data most of it was from dating sites and I'm pretty sure if you're gay and looking for someone who is gay on a dating site your gonna be your best gay! You are gonna put your gay on!

1:01:37 While all of this conversation is going on, people are very loosely using the term gay. And it does say specifically in the study following the APA's recommendation that the term gay is used to refer to same-gender sexual orientation so they haven't quite caught up with LGBTQIAAP but I digress from that The main problem with this study is, and what is not being discussed as it presumes and even says so strong support for the theory that sexual orientation stems from exposure to certain hormones before birth meaning people are born gay. And it's not a choice. That's what's interesting about this study Not that AI could detect it amongst only white men and only men I don't think that such a big deal. I really do

1:02:29 who are acting gay on a dating site. I don't think that's a big feat! I think a big feat would be for one of our producers to do the song Born Gay in the model of, born free... But that's kind of what this is doing, it's cementing into fact. And you'll see this will come back to us maybe a couple years from now... Well the study proved that you're born gay! You're not- It's not a choice That's what going on with the study I don't like it. You probably right

1:03:05 And coming out of Stanford, that would make nothing but sense. Yes precisely! But at the same time we got a bunch of problems with these damn Algos and you know the fact that they did that to prove this point okay I guess...I guess that's nice what thoughts did you have? I really didn't have much. I thought you were gonna argue once I laid out my case. You're right! This whole thing is bad this is just bad news That's right, the Algos are coming! Gotta chase those Algos Everything that we need to know about you So that we can bring you deep, deep And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage today and good morning to you John C. with a c stands for Calculating Algos Dvorak

CHAPTER 19 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Show, P2P Donation Systems

The program explores new peer-to-peer (P2P) payment systems as a way to avoid high transaction fees associated with traditional platforms like PayPal. A donor utilized a bank-direct P2P transfer to send a large contribution, which arrived without the usual processing cuts. The hosts compare this to services like Zelle and Popmoney, noting the increasing ease of direct digital transfers.

p2p· zelle· popmoney· paypal· crowdfunding

1:04:08 Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Carlson, good morning to these boots on the ground feeding or something... and all the dames and knights out there! In the morning everybody in the chat room at noagentostream.com Good to have most of y'all here And in the morning to all our artists who are always contributing to our album arts Brand new album art every single show We've had 962 so far we want to thank Conan Salata For he's done a couple of them recently for his outstanding work on episode 9 or 6 too titled that episode service pony Service pony and just a great shot of a cute girl in a bikini Standing in front of the storm surge like the good m5m media always does we laughed immediately And there's all kinds little gotchas in there

1:05:00 It was excellent. And we have a lot of excellent producers and associate executive producers today too, starting with Robert Osagueda You know, he never sent me I went back and forth and back and forth because this took forever. He's got some new system Mm-hmm. He donated through something called P2P p2p Yeah p2p And some banks I guess use it person to person p2p And it comes in as a message and then you have two is little like pop money But it's a little easier to use just like Zelle there's another one. I don't know what that is It sounds similar So P2P comes in and it sends you a message saying, Robert wants to send you this money. And it was $831.01. And so unlike the five dollar thing he really jumped too. I never got the message but he got the message and forwarded it to me. Then when you go their site they can give it a PayPal account and noagendaatdvorak.org is such an account

1:06:02 And it goes right in, boom! Just as though it was a PayPal thing. Except for one thing... You go look at the money? There's no PayPal fee. And with $831, that's quite a bit of savings. Yeah, that makes sense. That's cool! What is it called again? Peer-to-peer? P2P. P2P. All right we'll keep our eye on it. Yeah we're gonna look into this I never heard of them I mean I've been pretty caught up with the pop money and pop money is a little harder to deal with because unless your bank uses it and it can push it right into the bank account that we have here

1:06:41 It becomes a problem and it doesn't work as advertised. Because I have to go, you have to approve it and then you have to send it the bank... That's annoying! I don't like that bank number that bank number doesn't work wait a minute that same exact bank number works fine when its Bank-To-Bank how come it doesn't work now? And so it's like a customer service issue with Pop Money. From my perspective, I think I can smooth it out but I haven't been able to yet but this worked like a dream! Yeah, it sounds a lot like Zelle and it works exactly the same way Well I've never seen a Zelle thing

CHAPTER 20 / 47 Discussion

Native American Governance, Benjamin Franklin and Consensus

A donor's note discusses the influence of the Five-Nation Confederacy on the American Founders, specifically Benjamin Franklin. The theory suggests that the U.S. government structure borrowed heavily from indigenous forms of consensus-based governance. The hosts critique the efficiency of consensus-based systems, citing modern Swedish and Japanese corporate cultures as examples of where the model can become cumbersome.

iroquois confederacy· benjamin franklin· massachusetts· consensus· government

1:07:18 Alright, well let's continue with Robert. So Robert writes in and this will put me through the knighthood I never thought I'd be able to make this much of a contribution at one time but a vacation I've been saving for fell through so i went to someplace closer and I had some scratch despair bear scratch scratch. I ended up in a thoroughly B universe place on East, in East Hampton Massachusetts nuts. I almost panicked however with the little help from my friends I straddled the universe zone is able to survive and even learn a little something what alert learn little something I think I might have figured out why the female type humans are so pissed around here when

1:07:58 When the Europeans landed in this northern parts of America, they landed in a five-nation confederacy of one million inhabitants who had lived in prosperity. Peace was in the Confederacy and no poverty, no police force, no jails for over 200 years! They're the ones who inspired Benjamin Franklin and other founders of the Republic of the former Union with 13 colonies. The Founders copied most of the Indian forms of government The natives were, I love the simplicity of this. The natives are much more civilized than the newcomers they resolve problems by consensus everyone should speak their concerns in the longhouse Wait is this what he learned while in Massachusetts? Yeah Okay

1:08:38 He says the Europeans copied most of the indigenous forms but not all. In a high council debate, he goes on this theory to get it's little too long but I will say this if you've ever been in a big consensus thing isn't is used a lot And if you've ever been in one of those consensus environments, it is horrible. Swedish government or the Swedes kind of govern that way and they work that way in their businesses too. They rely on a lot of consensus. The Japanese also Americans... It doesn't really fit our personalities. Anyway, safely back in Universe A but is able to feel much more compassion for the predicament of the other universe. Maybe we'll be able to traverse the gap more easily in the future. Sometimes I would like to be or someday I would like to be known when I get knighted as Sir Robert Protector of The Hampshires

1:09:30 Okay. For jingles, I like the mariachi no-no-no to their head and Jobs Karma for everybody and keep those healthy doses of sanity coming. Hey! Listen... You're in my house. Come on guys. Shame on you. Okay. I'm up in the house. Breakin' the booths Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. He'll be knighted later onward if I charge a dual email look up here Trent Perkins $333 in Fenton Missouri

CHAPTER 21 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda History, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Meeting

The hosts recount their first meeting in 1992 on the set of a CNET television production. They reflect on their shared history in traditional media and how their dissatisfaction with corporate production standards led them to create the No Agenda podcast. This retrospective was prompted by a listener question regarding the origins of their professional partnership.

cnet· silicon valley· podcasting history· 1992· media production

1:10:25 ITM fellas came across the podcast earlier this year. He's a very newcomer found it on on reddit believe it or not That's one of those things I can imagine going but what the hell these guys bitching about I gotta check this I got to check This piece of crap out I thank you guys. I think you guys host an incredible show, look forward to it more than any other podcast. I don't know the history of No Agenda well we're gonna fix that with another version of Show 200 I hope. Did you ever get that email from me on that? Yeah I did! I replied to it. Oh... Did you ever get my reply to that email on that email that you sent me do you want to know if I saw

1:11:02 When and how did you guys meet he wants to know. Thanks for the best podcast in the universe can I try some karma? And can I get an ISIS in America and a goat scream do we have not to answer his question first Oh, how do we meet yeah wasn't that in the club net on this set I could tell where we met it was In a club there was a BDSM Club Yes, that's it We will follow them Isis You've got karma. Ooh, I like how that works! Ooh, I like the scream. Yeah We actually met in 1992 on the CNET set Yes That's correct You were doing a... yet another version of your talk show I was doing yet another and always reluctantly

1:12:01 That was an interesting time. We should recount that one of these days. The way I see it, they never did anything right. That's why we're doing this show ourselves because... They fucked it all up! ...I think the two of us discovered they don't get it right! Nothing right. You gotta do it yourself. You gotta do it yourself people Sir Roger boots in Mechanicsville, Iowa $333 sir Roger Bootser has 64th birthday on nine-nine I believe he's on the list on the list yes a Richard straw 330 bucks and he was the one I was looking up and here He says donation error. Please give me my money back. That's pretty much what it says all right? We'll send it back

1:12:49 I misunderstood a website while trying to donate another amount. Can you please cancel this, please? Okay, we'll go. I'll go cancel it later today so there goes our in total down the drain done list David McGee becomes an associate executive producer from Memphis Tennessee $261 and 17 cents he becomes a knight I believe he's on the list as Sir Nine. Yes, sir! Sir Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine! Nine

CHAPTER 22 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producers, Show 963 Credits

The hosts credit the executive and associate executive producers who funded Episode 963 through the "value for value" model. They emphasize that the show operates without traditional advertising, relying entirely on listener support. The segment includes the reading of various donation amounts and the granting of honorary titles to top contributors.

executive producer· associate executive producer· value for value· knighthood· donations

1:13:46 You've got karma. I guess some compliments for my cold pigeon read quick quick Yeah, felt as some felt. I fell right into the island speak. I thought you got pretty close I think you could have done better well we can check hold on I gotta go grab the card all right Well, I'll look at the latest headlines from The Pigeon BBC Hmm okay? What do we have her hurricane Irma okay? Hurricane Irma don't begin enter a South Florida, Florida USA. A zombie people day expecting to walk on the full force over the next hour and hold on I think because I did caught a little bit there where he sounded right on the money i think if you do that kind of dumb Dutch accent oh yes

1:14:36 With this the pigeon he reached 63 point million people's weight of supposed on evacuated state didn't go other places But it is funnier, but it's not as my good stuff you're looking for But the governor say now we don't too late for anyone who's I'm in my Russian. I got the card I get Thank God. Get me out of here, man! This is Dame Amanda of the Northeast and she always sends a cute little card with a bunch of hearts around it and it's a Hallmark card too if she spent money

1:15:11 Dear John and Adam, I'd like to request some travel karma for my mother and I before we make our way to Gitmo Nation Pyramids for a two-week trip. That should be a lot of fun! I look forward to catching up on the hours of deconstruction in entertainment upon my return. Dame Amanda of the Nor'east. Ooh, the gong in there. Nice. That is our group of executive producers minus one and associate executive producers for show 963 I believe. Yes 9 or 6 3 that's correct and even though one of our producer reneged. He'll be in the next project he'll come along in the next project

1:16:04 We laugh about this, but these are executive producers and associate executive producers. It's exactly how it works in Hollywood. We don't have all the perks that they get when helping out a fine piece of media entertainment as this but we do like to give you the credits just like starlets no Starlet's The Bang But We do give you the credits just like you see on all the big Hollywood productions. We appreciate that and remind everyone we have more people to thank later on, and another show coming up on Thursday Please support the program at devorak.org slash N-A Our formula is this...we go out, we hit people in the mouth Chemtrails There's your chemtrails

CHAPTER 23 / 47 Discussion

Harvard Study, Propaganda and the 2016 Election

A report from Harvard's Berkman Klein Center claims that partisan propaganda and disinformation on Facebook significantly aided Donald Trump's 2016 victory. The hosts dispute this, arguing that Trump's victory was due to his high volume of live speeches and the media's obsessive coverage of him. They contend that the media is blaming social media algorithms to avoid acknowledging their own role in elevating Trump's profile.

harvard university· berkman klein center· propaganda· facebook· 2016 election

1:17:01 Oh, just on Algos. Just briefly I'm still reading this whole report but the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University released a report on partisanship propaganda and disinformation online media and the 2016 US presidential election And I can give you the key takeaways, but they are claiming through this and you know they're claiming that yes indeed propaganda did help Donald Trump win the election mainly through Facebook. What's interesting is they never really have any examples of the content of what convinced everybody to vote for Donald Trump

1:17:48 I'm always like the advertising. Where are the ads that made this so convincing? But, yeah, I don't see any examples. Yeah, and they're not buying it and the face baggers... They're not Trump people anyway! No I mean, i don't know how many of them you can tell by your do the reads. I don't know that there's pockets of Trump supporters if they were there they'd always be there with the elgos aren't gonna fix anything. I think it's bullcrap. This is this is a fact! You know the reason? I think trump won because he was doing five and six of these speeches every couple days yes yeah He was doing three in a day when Clinton was doing none although there's no conclusive evidence

1:18:27 to that nature in this study, they do point out that at every turn Trump got all the media attention. But they're blaming it on everything but the media! And the media is their fault. You know, if the media had covered Bernie the way they covered Trump and there was logical reason to do so... He could have been a contender! Because he was drawing the crowds that Trump was drawing Hillary was drawing nothing There were examples of her showing up kind of hanging out at a cafe getting nobody to show up And it was like they just covered Trump, Trump, Trump and then they bitch and they're still doing it. They're still over covering Trump and wondering what you know so Bernie shows up on the Colbert show ah It wasn't that great But I do have some clips uh-huh and he was kind of confronted on a couple of things I have Let's go with here's let's go with this one that this probably the best one which is Bernie on Hillary

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Bernie Sanders, Medicare for All and Hillary Clinton

Bernie Sanders appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to defend his "Medicare for All" proposal and respond to criticisms from Hillary Clinton's memoir. Sanders argued that healthcare should be a human right, while the hosts critique the "human right" framing as a socialist trope. They suggest a better argument for universal healthcare would be based on national pride and public health pragmatism rather than intangible rights.

bernie sanders· stephen colbert· medicare for all· hillary clinton· healthcare

1:19:31 Alright. like a reaction to this. Hillary Clinton says that your attacks during the campaign caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives. What is your response to that accusation that you damaged America by damaging Hillary Clinton? Actually, the cases with progressive movement today and grassroots activism is stronger than it has been in many many years

1:20:11 As a result of our campaign, millions of young people began to vote for the first time became engaged in the political process. There you go! So that we have a government that works for all of us not just the 1%. Ah, shill in the audience. What the hell is that? Look at that douche. Shill! Funny by the way I like always like it when you do this. ...so we have a government that works for all of us not just the 1%. Shill

1:20:53 Those are the kind of attacks she was talking about, Bernie. But I understand look you know Secretary Clinton ran against the most unpopular candidate in the history this country and she lost that she was upset about it and i understand that little dig finally. Hey, did he bring up the financing scandal with his wife? Was there any talk of that? No, no. Are you kidding me at Colbert now on this big news by the way I chickened it. I thought he was a spoke with a bit of disdain about Hillary the way well yeah I detected some disdain from Coleman. It's that too. Well here's here's a follow This is Bernie 2020. Oh, I don't want to talk about 2016 anymore

1:21:38 Let's talk about 2020. In July, you were in Iowa You were in New Hampshire last weekend Are you running again? And are you prepared to be blamed next time for Trumps re-election? I will tell you what I tell everybody that right now What the American people want The Senate and House to do is start addressing the real issues are facing. And the real issues are health care, making educational opportunity available to all raising the minimum wage that is what they want us to focus on they do not like never-ending campaigns media likes that I don't think people do so we got a long time ago we just came from election eight or nine months ago So let us focus on the issues that the American people care about and politics will follow that You gestured at me when you said media

1:22:33 I take that as an act of hostility, Senator. Okay well sir thank you so much for being here the book is Bernie Sanders guide to political revolution Well there's only one other clip that i got that was worth it which was him stealing the idea of medicare for everyone Now next Not a new thought by any means and of course on apparently on one of the MSNBC shows It's brought out that Hillary accused Bernie of stealing her ideas Wednesday I understand you're introducing a Medicare for all bill. What what is that?

1:23:20 What it is, is finally coming to terms with a very fundamental issue. And that is as a nation we have got to finally decide whether healthcare is a human right or not. Whether every man woman and child in this country are entitled to healthcare because they are human beings or whether or not we're going to continue to have a system run by the insurance companies and the drug companies where the major goal is to make huge profits for those entities. And I think that time is now for the United States to join every other major country on earth, talking about Canada, UK, France, Germany – every major country that guarantees health care to all people

1:24:05 And what a Medicare for all system is about, is saying we got a good program now for seniors. It's called Medicare let's make that program available to every man woman and child in this country. Okay yeah this is going about this all the wrong ways For one thing he's a liar Because you go to any of these, they don't guarantee medical treatment for all people. Total horse crap! I know two countries where it's... Canada is one of them! You want to get treated in Canada? You can get treated there but your not getting it free

1:24:46 So that's bull crap. The other thing is this idea of, so this is where the socialist progressive Bernie is like a little bit much of a dingbat and should take care of his problems with the universities that they've invested in. This human right thing is not the argument that you want It's not a human right that somebody has to pay for your medical bill. Not a human right, it should be done on the purposes of betterment for the entire country. It should be a national pride thing. We don't want a bunch of people sick and coughing and having tuberculosis roaming around the streets and making everybody else sick. That doesn't help us. And it is not a positive thing for the nation to have people bleeding out on the street

1:25:33 That's the argument you should make. It should be a nationalist, a pride thing it shouldn't be human rights Yeah but that is the narrative is...it's a human right and everybody should have it That's what he has been pushing Let's just show What if you shut down all of the hospitals and shutdown the whole medical system And you say okay now medical care is a human right Okay so human right what good does that do me? I got my right to what There's nothing to serve me No. I mean, human right is like freedom liberty these things are kind of intangible it's not like my human right to have a thousand dollars in my checking account which essentially is what they're talking about here as a human right That's coming! That's next we talked about that Well I think it is coming but I don't think it should be done for the purpose because its not a human right that means you have to give it everybody? Yep I mean thats what his indication was

CHAPTER 25 / 47 Discussion

Lenny Dykstra, Lena Dunham and Twitter Periscope

Former baseball player Lenny Dykstra posted a series of controversial videos on Twitter directed at Lena Dunham, offering unsolicited advice on marriage and traditional gender roles. Dykstra, who has a history of legal and financial troubles, claimed he could "rescue" Dunham and her fans from disillusionment. The hosts discuss the rise of unpolished, direct-to-camera video content on platforms like Periscope.

lenny dykstra· lena dunham· periscope· twitter· baseball

1:26:24 and take it one step further. As we know, people are animals, animals are dogs so dogs will also have a human right an animal right to have health care. Well that would save a lot of money. Yeah. The vet bill maybe they're on to something back but let's go back to this algo thing you said you have a couple of clips I wanted to get out of the way now you familiar with what happened with Lenny Dykstra and Lena Dunham? I don't know. Maybe. Okay, well this is a little Twitter thing that took off Lena finally got fed up with it but he calls her Lena and he goes on so this i wrote a column about why we shouldn't have these video things on you know there's periscopes and things like that Scott Adams is abusing other people are yeah because its allows for people to shoot themselves on camera or

1:27:18 Or come on, by the way the Zephyr just gone by now. Late again. Are you advocating for restriction of free speech? No I'm advocating for restriction and free video. Okay so Dykstra comes on drunk Who is Lenny Dykstra? Lenny Dykstra is a very interesting character he was a very famous baseball player I think it's with the Mets And he went on to become a renowned stock picker, to the point where he'd become a billionaire. Then it turned out that he was this massive scammer and his...he was thrown in jail for I don't know how long. He's only been out recently and now he decided that his whole reason to exist is to help women

1:28:15 And so and he's gonna start with Lena Dunham. I don't know how much you want to listen to this You can look I got cut it up into two pieces in case you don't wanna listen the second half which is pretty funny, but This is why I think this should be banned following my exchange with land Sorry on the night of Thursday September 7th. I realized there was a serious crisis in this country that I believe I can solve. Women are unhappy and they don't understand why America is suffering deeply because women are confused about their role in society. Oh boy, oh yeah. Lena was clearly reaching out to me for help and guidance And if you doubt me consider this...I don't think it's a coincidence

1:29:15 that she has a feminist newsletter called Lenny Letter, nor that she is horny for baseball players. If that is not evidence of a cry for help directed at me I don't know what it is. Lena! Honey! I'm here to rescue you your female fans from a life of disillusionment while helping to make America great again. Believe me, I know what women really want just ask them. Let's move on here is my four point plan number one marriage

1:30:12 This should be a woman's primary goal. Women are happier when they are married with kids and helping their husbands succeed." Oh, he... yeah it was too bad about the audio Is this a podcast? Is this a YouTube thingy does? No this was done on Twitter on one of those videos. Oh Periscope! Yeah I guess it was periscope or something like that And so yeah, no I feel bad about these guys and they do it. Does...I have another clip later in the show. I don't! I think this is fantastic. Well, this guy..I like them to have been mic'd better yes if you want to know So okay on this part two and it gets...it...I do cut it off eventually because that just like it's too much of an eye roller at this point Number 2

1:30:57 Finances. Women should work only until they're married, once married they should quit their jobs and focus on the family! It's actually more financially prudent than hiring housekeepers and or child care. Grooming Lose 20 pounds. Trust me, you'll look better and feel better and the chances that your husband will remain attracted to you will definitely increase. Sixth, the so-called sexual revolution did nothing to help women. Pouring yourself at a bar every weekend when you're 32 is not hot!

1:31:46 I can't believe he wasn't in the red pill documentary. It's so surprising. Yeah, Lena. Lena he keeps calling her. Well because of her newsletter is yeah addressed to the Lenny's the Lenny newsletter but I receive that from time to time actually i wanted to go back because you kind of switched on me real quick it's very fun to see um when your uh what were we doing uh Hillary just before this? Bernie! Bernie right Bernie Hilary

CHAPTER 26 / 47 Discussion

DACA Hypocrisy, Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer

Archival clips of Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer from 2009 and 2011 show them taking much harder stances on illegal immigration than their current positions on DACA. Schumer is heard emphasizing the importance of the term "illegal alien" and the need for tough enforcement. The hosts highlight these clips as evidence of political opportunism and the power of the internet to preserve contradictory past statements.

daca· chuck schumer· hillary clinton· immigration· political flip-flopping

1:32:33 How she had how he had stolen something from her, you know the Medicare for all What happens it's unavoidable in these situations with the internet. It's really cool when you have something like DACA People immediately go back and pick up old clips Yeah, yeah I know which one you're going for if to act I just saw this this morning is that I don't have time I got two I get One from Hillary but we have to send a clear message just because your child gets across the border that that doesn't mean the child gets to stay. So we don't want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous trek." Yeah, so gee! That was 2011 Hillary had a very different very different message about DACA but the best and this is one that's cut up between the old footage and the new footage is Chuck Schumer certainly big

1:33:27 Big Buona there in the Democratic Party, his recent statement about President Trump's rescinding the DACA order so it can sunset and giving Congress time to do something about it. People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the US legally. The president's decision to end DACA was heartless and it was brainless when we use phrases like undocumented workers We convey a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Hundreds, hundreds of thousands of families will be ripped apart If you don't think it's illegal, you're not going to say it I think it is illegal and wrong Tens of thousands of American businesses will lose hard-working employees A biometric based employer verification system

1:34:21 with tough enforcement and auditing is necessary to significantly diminish the job magnet that attracts illegal aliens to the United States. They may have known no other country but ours." Man, that guy's really contradicting himself! Yeah, this is a problem that the internet has brought forward. And we've been observing it through... I think our show has largely kind of blossomed from this particular phenomenon

CHAPTER 27 / 47 Discussion

Associated Press Style Guide, Undocumented Citizens Terminology

The Associated Press and certain political figures like Rahm Emanuel have begun using the term "undocumented citizens" to describe illegal immigrants. The hosts argue this is a factually incorrect use of the word "citizen" and represents a propaganda effort to normalize the lack of national borders. They note that while the official AP style guide may not have changed, the practical usage in reporting has shifted.

associated press· style guide· undocumented citizens· rahm emanuel· propaganda

1:34:57 Because it's part of the whole thing and just to show these hypocrites, and he's the worst example And then those clips are fantastic. And so is Hillary you can find all these great clips a Hillary mm-hmm and people want to ignore him But I really know what has been on the internet talking about black kids being wild wild animals and stuff yeah Yeah It's something else that that gets caught in these days is use of words obviously The Associated Press, outfits like this they have their style guide and they refer to groups of people in certain ways. That's how we get LGBTQIAP or the UN way LGBTI, they drop the Q. Associated Press in their style guide, they always speak of undocumented immigrants. They changed this that... They didn't change a style guide but they started to use undocumented citizens

1:35:52 And surprising to me that they're doing that. Yes, well that's a piece of propaganda. Well it also fits right in with the CIA running the AP. You know, it's incorrect. It seems a globalist idea. Yeah global thing is the globalists are they yeah the internationalists They want one and what is that? And you see more wouldn't use it anyway I see using that I think we should call them out but they're also using not citizens. Yeah They called on undoes UN do undoes which I like to see as undos but okay undoes Undoes undocumented citizens

1:36:37 It's all part of the no borders thing. It is pretty hard to resist Let me just see what the definition is of citizen, just to make sure But legally recognized... right off the top A legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth When I forget my driver's license that makes me an undocumented citizen Correct Troubling You sure thats right? What, that definition? No. The AP's made that change or maybe it was something else... No no I'm saying is they didn't make the change they started- It's not changed in their style guide they've started using it They just started using it So still in this style of guide is the right way Let's see Rahm Emanuel spoke as Chicago Public Schools marked the first day of classes Tuesday The mayor told the Chicago Sun Times report school officials say about a third of the school students are undocumented citizens

CHAPTER 28 / 47 Discussion

Charlottesville Investigation, Heather Heyer Death Details

Questions are raised regarding the specific cause of death for Heather Heyer during the Charlottesville protests. While initially reported as being "mowed down" by a car, her mother stated in an interview that Heyer died of a heart attack at the scene. The hosts note the lack of recent updates or formal indictments in the case against the driver, James Alex Fields Jr., suggesting the story has been largely dropped by the media.

charlottesville· heather heyer· heart attack· domestic terrorism· autopsy

1:37:40 It's just factually incorrect. Well, Chicago is a testing ground! Yeah... yeah it is. Let's see I have some kind of sad stuff maybe we'll just do that now Two things, both about domestic terrorists. As you now locked into the lexicon certainly in Gitmo Nation proper here is Charlottesville the death of Heather Heyer was perpetrated by domestic terrorists even though... and where is it? Have we heard anything else about this guy? It's so odd that just went away Where is he? What's happened, where is the indictment. Is he still in jail I mean who knows what's happening to him Have you heard anything No zip I've heard so little that I forgot about the story completely until you just brought it up Well there's something that I don't have conclusive evidence of but So far it does appear to be correct Now when you see the tributes for Heather Heyer

1:38:39 Who was I'll say allegedly mowed down by the alleged domestic terrorist in Charlottesville The pictures you see are like a high school yearbook picture and it's horrible You see this beautiful girl, and you know she's been mowed down by the car What's interesting is that was not a current picture of her. That was a very very old picture In fact Heather Heyer before death looked a lot more like her mother She was probably tipping 300 pounds. You didn't know that, did you? No I did not know that In fact if you look at the video and again this is presuming that is indeed her and it seems like it she wasn't actually scooped up by the car but she fell down to the right of the car and suffered a heart attack And died If you saw the videos you saw different

1:39:36 EMT's giving CPR and if you look at the video, you'll see it's a very large woman. And they're trying to give her CPR and they couldn't revive her which would mean technically that she wasn't mowed down that she got a fright or maybe she was struck That is not entirely clear but her own mother even kind of backs up this theory So I'm just grieving my child She died pretty instantly She didn't suffer She died of a heart attack right away at the scene. They revived her briefly and then not consciously just got her heart beating again, and then it- Her heart just stopped so I don't feel like she suffered That's been a blessing Just interesting And I know its you know its very hard to bring this up It sounds insensitive but I do think it is important data point in also in light of where is this guy? Where is he? Where are all the charges? Where is the gas chamber? Where is the electric chair

1:40:41 Good catch. Interesting, isn't it? It's been swept under the carpet and well some of these videos are in the show notes 963.noagendanotes.com but you can see that there's a very large woman being given CPR as video as you can see she's on the right-hand side of the car looking at the car from behind and she may not have been struck necessarily by the car or killed I mean the incident is unfortunate things happen uh but her mom seems to say yeah she died instantly she had no pain okay I'm going to be called an insensitive prick for doing that one. Maxine... Well, I'm not gonna call you that but I know who will call you that there's a number of people that condemn us generally and I don't know why they even bother listening to the show. I don't think they actually do. Maxine Waters is on a number of these big committees and there was one that was held the other day about financing terrorism

CHAPTER 29 / 47 Discussion

Maxine Waters, Domestic Terrorism and Privacy

Representative Maxine Waters cited historical events like Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City bombing to argue for increased focus on domestic terrorism. During a committee hearing, she suggested that privacy concerns should not prevent the government from getting a "fix" on "lone killers" and white nationalists. The hosts interpret her comments as an open call for expanded domestic spying on American citizens.

maxine waters· domestic terrorism· ruby ridge· oklahoma city· domestic spying

1:41:36 Then how are we going to do this has a lot to do with Bitcoin and there's all kinds of things that are being done under the guise of all. We have to combat financing for terrorism, that's why all of these rules exist because of terrorism but she had a little opening statement about it. about domestic terrorism which just needs to be heard. As the recent events in Charlottesville, which took the life of Heather Hehir and two VA state troopers have reminded us extremists radicalized by foreign terrorist groups are not the only terrorists with a capacity and will to target and kill American citizens And listen when she when she inhales

1:42:11 It sounds like a death rattle Indeed domestic terrorist attacks have become more frequent in recent years. I just took a look at what has happened since 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff three killed two wounded, Oklahoma City. Whoa hold on a second went real fast Domestic terrorism she goes straight to Ruby Ridge three killed yeah By the FBI? The FBI shot his, uh, his Randall Weaver's wife through the head. Killed the kid Yeah And she just- She just throws that in as like three dead. Yeah!

1:42:48 Wow, this is another good example of rewriting history. It comes back again. Since 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff three killed two wounded Oklahoma City bombing 168 killed over 680 wounded 2009 United States Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting one kill one wounded 2012 Wisconsin Sheik Temple shooting killed six wounded for 2013 Los Angeles International Airport shooting attack on TSA officer kill 116 2015 Planned Parenthood shooting killed three wounded 9 2017 Portland train attack killed two wounded one Charlottesville car ramming attack here 3 wounded 19 and I'm worried. Oh, hold on hold on hold on Hold on the car attacked did not kill three it killed one

1:43:35 And the other two died in a helicopter crash. But OK, we'll attribute it to your domestic terrorist Maxine no problem. I'm 19 and I'm worried about these domestic attacks as a matter of fact I was forced to focus on it a little bit more yesterday in my office in Los Angeles One of the people opening the mail opened an envelope and a bunch of powder fell out with a note about me dying and killing Hillary Clinton and on and on and on this is getting more frequent And I know that we have privacy concerns and information sharing and all of that, but I'm wondering what can we do to get a handle—a fix on these loan killers?

1:44:17 Lone wolves is the term, but okay. Lone killers. It's on these lone killers and not simply just say we throw our hands up and can't really do anything because of privacy concerns I think we should focus a lot... Well this is she's very consistent What she's saying is apparent if you listen to it about privacy. Well, we have these privacy concerns. I think because of privacy concerns, I think we should focus a lot on domestic terrorism also so i would like to ask again given all that you have said about how difficult it is and the private concerns do you have any thoughts

1:45:00 about what we can do to begin to deal with the KKK, and the white nationalists. The extremists? They're alt-right! They are on the internet. Brett Barth—if you look at YouTube, you'll see how much they want to kill me and others. What can we do?" Brett Barth. Brett Barth. They all want to kill her John. They all want to kill her. The white nationalist want to kill her. And what she's saying, if you listen to it and I watch the whole thing... She's advocating for domestic spying. So I know we have privacy concerns but they're terrorists! Privacy concern? They're terrorists! We've got to spy on Americans! That's what she is advocating for. Does she know that we already do that? It may just be theater but yeah that's Maxine.

CHAPTER 30 / 47 Discussion

Judicial Watch, FOIA Lawsuits and the Deep State

A representative from Judicial Watch discussed the organization's hundreds of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits against the federal government. He argued that a "Deep State" of career bureaucrats is actively obstructing the Trump administration's transparency efforts. The segment frames the ongoing legal battles as a necessary check on a bureaucracy that Judicial Watch claims is operating outside the rule of law to target political opponents.

judicial watch· foia· deep state· transparency· trump administration

1:45:54 That's right, Maxine. Please run for president! Keep our show in business and stay woke my millennials! Secret agent Paul nailing it The guy from Judicial Watch also came on un-miked on some video thing

1:46:33 And it's interesting what they're doing. I mean, Judicial Watch is...I think in another era would have been considered a bunch of right-wing nutballs but they present themselves because they're all lawyers at sea and they're paid by the right wing no doubt well and their cause tends to be right wing but there slick and then their presentation is very almost liberal academic in style And they sue everybody left and right for good reason. Mostly breaking the law, but the main thing is apparently these FOIA suits I didn't know that they were doing so many of them but apparently on the... That's pretty much all they do is FOIA requests all the time. Well and suits because you don't get anything from their FOIA request So let's play this guy for a minute and get a clue. When it breaks the law and the Trump administration unfortunately breaks the law repeatedly On one issue? The Freedom Of Information Act

1:47:32 So what happens is, someone asks for records from an agency. They're required to give the records in a timely way and if they withhold the records improperly or refuse to respond they're breaking the law And the way you enforce the law it's the suit of federal court This is what we do hundreds of times under the Freedom Of Information Act Hundreds of times What's happening here? The Deep State is running the Trump administration on transparency issues Not the President. It's the Deep State His political appointees, as I've said repeatedly need to be held accountable for allowing this to continue to go on but it is a challenge In many ways it was more of a challenge than it was with Obama administration At least with the Obama Administration you had the glare of public spotlight Now the concern isn't high about transparency issues in media or Congress So the deep state thinks they can get away with anything they want

1:48:34 And as I said, the political appointees are either complicit or oblivious. And to that end we've been pursuing something that Congress is really incapable of doing even if they want to do it and something the media doesn't really want to do too much of either just figuring out the corruption and details behind the effort to destroy Donald Trump Now you know, you can disagree with Donald Trump politically But my concern is, the Judicial Watch's concern is that the opposition to Donald Trump within the deep state is contrary to the rule of law. And they're opposing him through illegal means. Abusing powers to try and get him because they disagree with his politics. It's just like Obama abusing the IRS to target the Tea Party

1:49:23 You have officials abusing their authority and abusing the agencies they run. It happened under the Obama administration, I think it continues with bureaucracies today to target someone they don't like and that was Donald Trump he's the Tea Party you know substitute him for The Tea Party And you'll understand what i mean in terms of targeting by the establishment government at bureaucracies here in town Yeah, I'm gonna send you a filter for audacity so you can easily Fix that kind of audio. I would welcome it yeah That's interesting you know i've used different audacity filters for that and It tends to it brings in a warble which are both now, I find very annoying Yeah, but I don't know why it does that because it shouldn't theoretically But that was interesting

CHAPTER 31 / 47 Discussion

Technocracy and Light Bulb Regulation, Philips Scandal

The discussion explores the concept of technocracy, where experts and bureaucrats make laws without public votes, such as the ban on incandescent light bulbs. A scandal in the Netherlands allegedly involves Philips colluding with government experts to push mercury-based CFL bulbs. The hosts also critique LEED certification requirements that lead to "crippled" appliances, such as dishwashers with disabled heating elements.

technocracy· philips· light bulbs· leed certification· incandescent ban

1:50:18 So that's where they're coming from. They see the whole thing as a deep state play, which is kind of it was easy enough to if you're gonna buy into the CIA having taken over the government according to Ron Paul we have that clip somewhere. A CIA supposedly took over and when they killed Kennedy and then more recently the DIA or the Defense Department took over from the CIA and now there's a squabble but what does Trump got to do with it? Why even have a president Just have a bunch of bureaucrats run the place, the technocracy which is kind of what was predicted in Jacques Elluel's The Technological Society. Which is that technocrats run everything and this is how they... Not to say that they're more modern than we are but their buildings are! The EU, that's what they do. It's exactly what they do.

1:51:10 There's nobody who has voted in his presidency, just a bunch of technocrats making laws by the dozens just constantly because they know what they're doing. They are experts! You got to get them making their law about how many feathers should be in a pillow? Because he is an expert and he knows more than a bunch of guys... And the argument from technological society is this. It's an argument you hear all time and this is what you get This is the argument for global warming there's an expert who knows more than you do And legislating some of these laws, like how many... why would you legislate how many feathers in a pillow? It's not something for a vote. It's something for an expert! Well I can tell you that right now in the Netherlands there is quite a scandal unfolding. I believe it airs tonight

1:51:57 about Phillips colluding with the techno technocrats and experts regarding the entire ban of regular light bulbs incandescent light bulbs and bringing in their the shitty ones you know the mercury based uh ones that shoot off those fluorescent yeah that shoot off for that shoot off like by the way electrical rays yeah besides shooting off electrical let's go let's talk about these stupid bulbs well let's let's go let's go back one step further and agree Particularly when it comes to the light bulb industry, which is really only three companies. They have colluded for decades... Since the 50s? For decades because there was a price fixing suit in the fifties with General Electric and a couple of these other operations. Osram, General Electric, Philips. Yeah that's the three.

1:52:53 And they colluded and they came up with the planned obsolescence, which is on the box. It says 10,000 hours if you even get one that has ten thousand hours and it goes off around ten thousand hours its programmed to die after ten thousand hours and they all agreed to do it They agree to the standards and to this day as far as I know it continues. I'm looking at these bulbs They don't last 10,000 hours. Yeah they will stay lit for 10,000 hours but the luminosity goes away some of them you have to warm up before they even get to their peak luminosity I've got a whole room full and when you turn it on they're all oh god he turned on electricity let me see and struggles in about half an hour later there bright

1:53:41 Those are the same kind of boats. A lot of them buzz? Yeah, they buzz for sure! A lot of them have like to give off UV, you know, you probably don't have cataracts after being in the dining room for too long. It's unbelievable how bad and crappy these bulbs are! Yeah they do save a lot of energy luckily I don't know what you feel about this but luckily LEDs have come in which is to have their problems too well before we get to LEDs one more thing about the CFLs when I discovered this on our new building here

1:54:17 And the CFLs are in all buildings in Austin. They're in the hallways, it's all... and they're crap! It looks like a prison no matter what. Yes, it's a strobe, you have the wrong Kelvin. Penitentiary. I know why they do it though. So you get used to it? No. You're right, what can I say?! That is ultimately the Illuminati's illuminosity No, but we had problems with the dishwasher. I'm like you know the dish it's not drying It's a you know that I got water on top of everything so I caught you have to maintenance guy comes in he says ah Well, you need your jet dryer what is I've never had used JetDry What is that said no? You have to use it, but because they disabled 50% of the heating in all of the Dishwasher units in this building

1:55:10 and they also cut the time that you can do high heat drying in half. The reason is to get LEED certification Can't you get a mechanic in there to return those features? I asked him, and my guy would do that if he could. He said it's disabled within firmware or something... You can't do that. But to make this building LEED certified which i'm sure gives them a tax break they cripple the actual things you need That's funny. It is not funny! Well, that's going on everywhere. Yeah so I'm sure these light bulbs are a part of it anyway how we get to the light bulbs? We got to it there was a scandal that the Phillips colluded with the experts in government to push this through even though they knew that they had mercury all kinds of crap with the CFL these early CFL bulbs RF radiation...it's just crap So yeah you just don't make waves

CHAPTER 32 / 47 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis, Brussels and Italy

The migrant crisis in Europe has reached Brussels, where hundreds of people are sleeping in parks near EU headquarters. Reports from Italy suggest that the mafia is exploiting migrants as slave labor on farms, pocketing government subsidies intended for their care. The situation remains tense as countries like Belgium attempt to prevent the formation of permanent camps similar to the "Jungle" in Calais.

brussels· calais· italy· migrant crisis· slave labor

1:56:16 Yeah, of course. What will be the punishment? Nothing. Well like you could whatever it is they can handle it well Let's stay in Europe for a second hold on a second what do I have I got something on the mic I got where I got a Merkel report so we know that she's gonna win well We'll get to them. We'll get to the Merkel report. We have two reports first Brussels, now a problem with the continuous inflow of migrants. The crisis the EU continues to grapple with on its southern shores has now reached its heart, Brussels. Every night hundreds of migrant sleep rough in this park not far from the EU headquarters until police show up

1:56:54 They confiscate not only the migrants' belongings, but also their documents, phones etc., as well as things we give them like sleeping bags, backpacks blankets even clothes. Every night volunteers from the NGO Belgium Kitchen make their way across the park to hand out meals to these migrants most of whom made it all the way from Sudan and Eritrea were a stone's throw from the Gare du Nord train station As in the French port of Calais, most men don't want to seek asylum here. They want to reach the UK. When we started handing out meals there were 250 people on average now we can have up to 650 The men here can only rely on help from NGOs

1:57:32 Belgian authorities don't want to see a tent camp set up in the capital, a new jungle like the one dismantled in Calais last year. Our correspondent on the ground says that according to most volunteers here repeated police operations in the past couple of days have got migrants scared and as a result many have scattered and moved to other locations So that's not very good. There was a report on you, not your own news but some DW show and it was about the mafia in Italy exploiting them migrants using him as slave labor in farms housing them and making tons of money from the government to get something like $30 per migrant per day and they feed them gruel

1:58:18 And they pocketed like 25. Sorghum, sorghum! They said sorghum and then 25 bucks they pocket that used to five on the migrants this is a massive scam Well first of all it's business model is not a scam It's a business model certainly in Italy Germany is now getting into trouble with Turkey as both Merkel and Schultz are saying yeah Yeah, you know we shouldn't have Turkey become a member of the EU. That shouldn't happen now We don't like what they're doing and Erdogan is making a lot of noise Becoming very very difficult about this and he could just open the gates and release three million Three and there and they're not asylum seekers I have the numbers here It's like in Germany You know how many people actually asylum seekers? Of the million that are in there? Like 8000

CHAPTER 33 / 47 Discussion

German Federal Elections, Angela Merkel Popularity

Polling data ahead of the German federal elections shows Chancellor Angela Merkel holding a significant lead over her rival Martin Schulz. Merkel's CDU-CSU bloc is projected to remain the strongest party, while the right-wing AfD is expected to enter the Bundestag for the first time. Despite some public protests regarding the refugee crisis, Merkel's popularity has reportedly increased in the final weeks of the campaign.

angela merkel· martin schulz· cdu· spd· bundestag

1:59:12 in Germany and other countries 800, 1000 the rest are economic migrants. Economic refugees which they used to keep out because Africa will send them all to Europe it's fine Go there, go to Europe. We'll give you a transport and get out of here." So I guess because Merkel was having such trouble with people throwing tomatoes at her because she wasn't addressing the crisis — the refugee crisis — she's now being like, well shut up Turkey! I think the tomato thing was an exaggeration from maybe one of the parties. Because if you listen to this report that we've got here, she's doing better than ever! Now here in Germany the country's biggest parties are gearing up for the end spurt with just a little over two weeks left till national elections The latest surveys are out and they show Angela Merkel is still miles ahead of our closest rival Martin Schulz of the Social Democrats Here is a closer look at the numbers

2:00:15 Things are going well for Angela Merkel. Two weeks before Germany's federal elections, the Chancellor's popularity numbers are up again If German voters could elect their chancellor directly 54% would choose Merkel that is 5 percent more than one week ago Only 26 percent prefer her challenger Martin Schulz His popularity remains unchanged If the elections were to take place on Sunday, Merkel's conservative CDU-CSU bloc would again become Germany's strongest party with 37% of the votes. The social democratic SPD would be number two with 21 percent of the vote. The right wing populist AfD would become the third largest party with 11 per cent and would be represented in Bundestag for the first time

2:01:06 would be just behind them with 10% and the business-friendly FDP would get 9, with the Greens receiving 8%. With just over two weeks until polling day a Merkel victory is becoming more and more likely. Do you think this is an accurate report or is this more of your media like, oh close race only 5% who knows what's going to happen? I don't think they pull that stunt so much in Europe that we do. It was pretty obvious by the end and I think those numbers will be when this is said then those will be the numbers Well, in the meantime something that had zero reporting despite the referendum in The Netherlands, the Ukraine Association Treaty was ratified.

CHAPTER 34 / 47 Discussion

European Egg Scandal, Fipronil Contamination

A major food safety scandal involving eggs contaminated with the insecticide fipronil has affected 40 countries. Millions of eggs were pulled from shelves and destroyed after the chemical was traced to a Dutch cleaning product supplier. EU agriculture ministers met in Estonia to discuss the breach in the food chain's integrity and the failure of rapid alert systems to catch the contamination earlier.

fipronil· insecticide· egg scandal· netherlands· belgium

2:01:51 I'm not quite sure how they did it. The Dutch went, yes! Who cares what the voters say? Just sign it is good. Very little fanfare about it but has been ratified. None and I didn't know about this. Yeah yeah very little there's not even a video clip of it they couldn't even find the clip just some reporting oh yeah that was signed well uh the dutch should be outraged they had a directive although legally binding they had a directive through their to what the politician said they would do they'd follow it No No. That's shameful! Yes, and last little thing happening there in Europe... Rise and shine to- I'm sorry, didn't mean to play that. Thought we had a war on eggs? Don't we have that? Maybe just war on chickens then It was just chickens, eggs are good Well no they're not

2:02:48 The war on chicken eggs. Contaminated eggs have been found in 40 countries worldwide, according to the DPA news agency. They have traces of fipronil an insecticide which can cause organ failure in humans. National regulators worry many have already entered the food chain EU agriculture ministers are discussing the scandal in Tallinn, Estonia. I do expect the European Rapid Alert System works as it should according to its name. It was not like this in the past. Unfortunately there was information about this for months but they didn't forward it to us. Officials in Belgium and Netherlands trace the source of insecticide to a Dutch cleaning product supplier.

2:03:30 The two men who ran the company were arrested last month. And we will not tolerate the actions of few people, putting in question the integrity and reputation and stability of our entire food chain... Of the eggs? ...one of the economic pillars of the European Union. TPA quoted a European Commission spokeswoman as saying that 24 EU countries had been affected by the scandal. Lots of video of eggs being destroyed That's interesting. Yeah, destruction of eggs. They should at least have an egg fight or something fun! Well I'm pretty sure the Egg Council will try and you know they'll...I don't know if they also do work for Europe?

CHAPTER 35 / 47 Discussion

Jerry Pournelle, Science Fiction Legend Passing

Tributes are paid to science fiction author and technology columnist Jerry Pournelle, who passed away at age 84. Pournelle had recently returned from Dragon Con and reportedly died in his sleep after contracting a cold or flu. The hosts reflect on his long career, including his influential columns in Byte Magazine and his presence in the early tech media scene.

jerry pournelle· dragon con· byte magazine· science fiction· pneumonia

2:04:11 But put an egg on it, takes out a whole new... It sounds like it's sabotaged to me this egg thing. Could be. Put an egg on it. Hey here is your coffin! Put an egg on it. Beautiful I just died. They should try that! And indeed we do have a few people to thank for show 963 And starting with Michael Brambke in Draper, Utah. Came in at one two three four five to send a nice check-in? No nothing. Wesley K Walker $100. Anthony Fields in West Roxbury Massachusetts that's 9110 Melchor Von De Decken. Let me just say about Anthony Fields emergency don't 9 11 emergency donations since my entire family lives in Naples Florida

2:05:13 So ah just passing that on Naples is where it's gonna. That may actually hit in Naples so that would be bad yeah Melchior von der Decken Melchior melchior Von der Decken von der Decken and was he Czechoslovakia or yes, we're Switzerland And this is a tribute to Jerry Pornell Yes, we mentioned him in the newsletter Jerry died last Friday. Now you said this was unexpected You would just had dinner with yeah I was over at his house having dinner like I don't know three weeks ago and Four weeks ago and he seems like is in really good shape

2:05:56 I mean considering all he's been through, but you know he wasn't didn't see it so i think what happened if you read further down Mimi pointed this out. I didn't read too much of the mention if you read further down he had gone to Dragon Con and he came back with the flu and a cold yeah probably got pneumonia. I was thinking pneumonia too because that kills their people die from pneumonia mainly a lot And he died in his sleep, which can happen in these situations. How old was he? Sorry? How old was he? 84

2:06:34 I mean, it's too young but yeah. He was a tough guy. Yeah that sucks. Seems you were affected? I know as we get older people drop dead left and right you just sit there thinking when is it my turn? Well the problem is he's 84 so there are some rest... There's a little bit of a relaxed note about that could have gone to 90 though but instead said I just saw him which is like you know. That's always odd Kind of not good. I mean, it wasn't yesterday but... And the funny thing is he was looking very much- Very looking very forward to going to DragonCon and getting out of the house. Like you know why don't get out of the house? Yeah and he was like oh had a great time! I'm back home again time to die. Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce Florida

CHAPTER 36 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony, Show 963

The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for several high-level donors, including Robert Ossegueda, David McGee, and Trent Wabus. Each new knight is given a unique title and welcomed to the "No Agenda Roundtable." The segment reinforces the show's reliance on the peerage system for financial sustainability and listener engagement.

knighthood· value for value· donations· peerage· roundtable

2:07:25 I'm sorry you miss Dame Janice. Oh, oh Dame Janice Baroness of the Mutton and Meat. Dame Janice. Dame Janice. Dame Janice the Baroness of the Mutton and Meat in Milpitas right over here by us. Hey who's going to be left on Twit that is funny? It says it all over. Well Jerry hasn't been on Twit for... In fact we talked about that when he was at his house. He had been invited back for about a year so That's interesting. Was there a rift? You know the thing about Twitter, they should start how I think people want to say oh put the VORAC back on put the verb right I'm telling you here's what you wanna do if you wanna have Leo to do something Oh boy haven't get Chris Pirillo Chris is that knows as much about anything as any of these guys he has it's a good point where he stays right on top of technology and

2:08:14 And he could use the money. Well, maybe he could but I think he could. But Chris would be perfect! I just don't understand why...I don't know if he's ever been on this show. Okay, onward. Sir Brian Green of Hamzahs... I'm sorry now we do Sean DeSantis. I about missed you. We keep missing him. Yeah. Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce Florida. Ah, I was saying him $75 bucks is interrupted Hurricane Donation thanks guys Sir Brian Green of Ham 7373 Casey 9y jm 73505 alpha Charlie Charlie sir Daniel Mac $64 another Jerry Pornel donation

2:09:01 He's read a little stuff in Bite Magazine as young man. Donate $1 per bit to eight bites. 64, nice! I like that. That's a good one. Will Shura in Madison Wisconsin. Shur-ah he says is how you pronounce it? Is on the birthday list? No, is he? I don't know if he is yes Sir Andrew Harms at 53 dollars KC Well, this is call number Casey zero WII. Yes World War two yeah, Oh 73s 73s sir Richard Gardner cash Chicago Illinois $53 oh he says elated birthday greeting I didn't realize that okay for him for himself or who? I guess for you Oh it's from me! Oh don't need to write that down Thank You forgot I was 53 Trent Wabus

2:10:00 Sir Trent Wabus, the rascally rabbit. 5111 The following people is a short list... Wait wait I'm sorry gotta stop! The Trent Wabus becomes a knight if you're still... Oh oh i thought he always was a knight? Uh don't... He's gonna become sir Trent Wabus the rascally rabbit? Yes yes let's see if you're still doing the Australian dollar knighting... I finally made it!!! Yeah, please knight me sir Trent Wabus the wascally wabbit also possible Can I have we're doing Australian and Canadian dollars as if they were American dollars if possible can? I have the roundtable items from back around show 300 before it got all corrupted with nonsense The hell he doesn't like we've had these for years so 300 was a little more pure

2:10:54 Well, no. You can't have that the roundtable items are the round table items you can just take away from other knights and dames who put these on the list Yeah, I agree got to be strict so this oh you have to make a executive peerage Decision yes No Send them all take a memoranda know No. So the following are $50 donors name and location if available starting with Mary Krenzel in Ipswich, Massachusetts David Peet in Aubrey Texas Dennis Browne in Rhinelander Wisconsin Drew Mocek over here in El Cerrito California can wave and you can see me Larry Hay in Mooresville North Carolina Kyle Meyer in Atlanta Georgia And last on this short list

2:11:47 But not least, Frank and Carol Molinari in Boulevard Texas. Thanks to all these folks for supporting the show and especially Show 963! And we hope to get a little better results in the next show and as we head toward our 10th anniversary on the 26th of October. That's right, and we have another program coming up on Thursday appreciate all of the support that we got also people under $50 who are in a lot of them are in subscriptions you can find all the information at Dvorak.org slash N A

2:12:24 For the hurricane, for health, for travel and... Jobs. Jobs. Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know what you have. Here is your knowledge on the birthday list for today Sir Roger Boots turned 64 yesterday we congratulate him Will Shura turns 32 on September 11 tomorrow as does Michael Reed no Michael Reeds his happy birthday to Joshua Reed he'll be 10 tomorrow on September 11 Happy Birthday from all of you buddies here at The Best Podcast in

CHAPTER 37 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Birthday List, September 11

The hosts read a list of birthdays for listeners and community members, noting several occurring on September 11. This regular segment serves to acknowledge the show's "boots on the ground" and maintain a personal connection with the audience.

birthdays· community· listeners· september 11· celebrations

2:11:47 But not least, Frank and Carol Molinari in Boulevard Texas. Thanks to all these folks for supporting the show and especially Show 963! And we hope to get a little better results in the next show and as we head toward our 10th anniversary on the 26th of October. That's right, and we have another program coming up on Thursday appreciate all of the support that we got also people under $50 who are in a lot of them are in subscriptions you can find all the information at Dvorak.org slash N A

2:12:24 For the hurricane, for health, for travel and... Jobs. Jobs. Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know what you have. Here is your knowledge on the birthday list for today Sir Roger Boots turned 64 yesterday we congratulate him Will Shura turns 32 on September 11 tomorrow as does Michael Reed no Michael Reeds his happy birthday to Joshua Reed he'll be 10 tomorrow on September 11 Happy Birthday from all of you buddies here at The Best Podcast in

2:13:02 in the universe. Three nightings to do, John so we need some big blade-age from you. Got it! Okay very good We need Robert Ossegueda, David McGee and Trent Wabas all up here on the podium please next to the lectern Gentlemen for you we have spots reserved for The Noah Jenner Roundtable of the Knights and the Dames And thank you very much for supporting The Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more I proudly pronounce again the Sir Robert Protector of the Hampshire, Sir Nine and Sir Trent Wabbus. The wascally wabbit for you gentlemen we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Pipelines of Poppies, Runny Eggs, Grapefruit WWE and Dabs Aero Gay and Ambien, Let's Blink as Whiskey and Gunpowder, Brisket in Brown Ale, Saffo and Spice Cheap Wine and Chili Dogs, Wenches and Beer, Geishas and Sake Vodka Vanilla Bong Hits a Bourbon Sparkling Cider Nesquik Ginger Ale and Gerbils and Muddin' In Mead all ready for you

CHAPTER 38 / 47 Discussion

Charlie Rose, New York City Centric News

A critique of Charlie Rose's "week ahead" segment on CBS highlights a heavy bias toward events occurring in New York City. The hosts point out that almost every item mentioned—from the US Open to the UN General Assembly—is located in Manhattan. They argue this reflects a narrow, provincial view of the country held by major media figures living in the New York bubble.

charlie rose· cbs· new york city· media bias· cultural center

2:13:55 If you head over to noagendination.com slash rings and let Eric DeShill know about your ring size, we'll get it off to as soon as possible thanks again for supporting us in our value for value model boom. I want to get into the week ahead. I got clipped at this week again. I find Charlie Rose has gotta be read in by the agency. I was thinking about that. I mean he oh this whole week is this week thing has become all CBS clips except for his interview show It's ridiculous, of course he is. Now let's go to this week ahead and tell me what the commonality... What's the common thing? The theme of these events? Sunday is the men singles finals at the US Open Tennis Championships Monday is the 16th anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks Tuesday is the start of the UN General Assembly

2:14:56 Wednesday marks the 32nd anniversary of Nintendo's release of Super Mario Brothers. Thursday is the feast of San Gennaro in New York's Little Italy Friday Sir Paul McCartney performs at Madison Square Garden Saturday is the National Women's Hall Of Fame 2017 induction ceremony Well Read them over to you again, and you get if you don't get this and I by the way. I find it Distressing will I be fired? Yeah, you're gonna be fired okay give it give me a shot Here's what we're gonna look at sounded like product placement is what it sounded like no It does not this is okay all right go ahead where's the u.s.. Open London It's a sports question what answer do you expect

2:15:58 Let's skip that one. Give me a Benny for that one, it was fast! It was funny yeah. Alright. Okay where was 9-11? 9-11 in New York City Where is the UN General Assembly? In New York City Where is the celebration in Little Italy in New York City? What town is that in? In New York City Where is the McCartney Madison Square Garden concert? Ah...New York City Yeah, and I didn't look up the Women's Hall of Fame thing but i'm guessing everything else on this list except the Nintendo game is in New York City. This is the New York City news! This has got nothing to do with the week coming. This is so New York City centric where Charlie lives

2:16:44 That is not watchable. This is a scam! Everybody knows that the cultural center of the United States is in Los Angeles, there's no mention of a concert at The Hollywood Bowl There's no mention of a symphony at Disney Hall There's no mention of a parade down Main Street on Disneyland There's nothing to do with anything except New York City and this is ridiculous! John Cena's boyfriend acts like he loves the day I guess it was a peeve. But, I think my point is well made. There must be a celebration of the Nintendo thing in New York City That's what i'm guessing! That's great... There are a lot of guys named Mario in New York Ah there you go Hey Mario your making the pizza

CHAPTER 39 / 47 Discussion

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Imran Awan Investigation

Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is distancing herself from former IT staffer Imran Awan, who was arrested by the FBI while attempting to fly to Pakistan. Awan is accused of bank fraud and procurement theft, though Wasserman Schultz claims he is being targeted due to religious profiling. Speculation continues regarding Awan's potential ties to Pakistani intelligence (ISI) and what information he may provide to federal investigators.

debbie wasserman schultz· imran awan· congressional staffer· fbi· pakistani isi

2:17:27 Yeah. Some, well some good news Debbie Wasserman Schultz I saw you have a clip we'll get to it after i play the local report I think this is CBS Miami Where's my Debbie Wasserman Schultz clip? Oh you have an ISO no I thought... No guess you don't maybe oh DW okay That's Deutsche Welle You can play that ISO right now Okay This would be Debbie Wasserman Schultz German version Too bad about the ending we need to yeah, I know it off. Yeah very nice as a good. I would love to use that

2:18:12 No, Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoke for the first time amidst rumors that... Great story. Yeah that one or many of the Awan brother family cabal have been cutting deals with the Department of Justice in exchange for testifying against Possibly Debbie Wasserman Schultz, other members of Congress. Well he's not my staffer. Sorry? I was going to say yes but apparently they're targeting a whole bunch of members of Congress who love this. Well he's not my staffer right? He no longer works for me and when he was arrested i terminated him. Debbie Wasserman Schultz distancing herself from Imran Awan. He is the former congressional staffer arrested by FBI agents last month before boarding a flight to Pakistan. He was then fired by Wasserman Schultz So I terminated him

2:18:59 when he was arrested, which meant that there was a process being followed. That his due process was being followed. I mean, it's important to point out what he has been arrested and charged with is unrelated to his employment." Awan was an IT specialist for several Democratic members of Congress. He was fired early this year when reports surfaced that he might be involved in possible procurement theft He was kept on by Wasserman Schultz until last month when he was charged with falsifying a home equity loan application and unlawfully transferring money to Pakistan. Wasserman Schultz says she doesn't know about Awan's finances, but believes his family has been singled out for being Muslim. They were experiencing the things that I was concerned about in terms of

2:19:46 racial, ethnic and religious profiling. And so she brought their children... They lost their jobs, lost their livelihood and she brought their children, their family to Pakistan. Man! She's nervous. Oh yeah. Yeah there is trouble brewing I'm very curious. We talked about these guys before with this speculation they possibly ISI? No not just possibly with certainty ISIs CIA total connection It's turning the frogs gay, I know about this stuff. But it is a situation where they must have screwed up something but they're coming back to testify and they're gonna blow the lid off stuff... In other words we are not going to hear anything about any more of this. This will be swept.

CHAPTER 40 / 47 Discussion

Gary Cohn, White House Economic Advisor Tension

Tensions between President Trump and economic advisor Gary Cohn have escalated following Cohn's public criticism of the President's response to Charlottesville. Reports suggest Trump has stopped making eye contact with Cohn, signaling a likely departure from the administration. Cohn was previously considered a top candidate for the Federal Reserve chairmanship, but his standing has diminished as internal White House dynamics shift.

gary cohn· donald trump· charlottesville· federal reserve· tax reform

2:20:38 Gonna be swept under the rug. Yeah, the agency doesn't think everyone's laughing now But I think there's People shouldn't be listening to this show because we did we have theses not feces but theses on the show that have to do with this structure of the way We structure things and that element has to be part of it or it doesn't or you can explain There's no show It's no show. Sometimes you also get inside information, I told you maybe a week ago or two weeks ago that my former New York banker buddy uh told me the reason why Gary Cohn had not left the administration yet despite calls from his fellow Jews um to leave because Trump equals Hitler is because he really wants to get the Fed chair job and he's worried that if he leaves

2:21:30 That, uh... Mnuchin will get it. And that's why he is hanging in there. Until this week! A newly fraying relationship between US President Donald Trump and top White House economic advisor Gary Cohn, raising questions about how long Cohn will stay in his job. Sources telling Reuters Cohen planned to remain director of the National Economic Council for at least a year but concern is said to be growing among his allies that he may be pressured to leave. The sentiment stemming from a recent report in the Wall Street Journal from

2:22:18 Cone criticized Trump last month in a Financial Times interview for saying both sides were to blame for violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia where one woman was killed. Cone told the newspaper the administration quote must do better and condemning neo-Nazi and white supremacists The Wall Street veteran is seen by many as a key driver of the president's ability to deliver on his economic agenda, particularly tax reform. One Yale University management expert going so far as to say Cohn's departure could crash the markets. Still, a White House official told Reuters Cohn is focused on his job with Cohn himself saying last week he and the president are working well together. Well my understanding that all the reports that I've read

2:23:04 is that Trump won't even make eye contact with the guy anymore. Which is supposedly the beginning of the end. He screwed him! Yeah, no he screwed him and if you're the president this guy comes up and says well I handled that Charleston thing poorly You know there's...you're not there to be criticized by your own staff like that in this situation where the media is jumping all over ya? But Cohen had to do it. He got pressure from his uh...from the Jews And apparently Kelly a outflanked Trump to get rid of this guy. I hope Kelly stays in though, we know that the Republic will come crashing down if Kelly leaves we know this well i still think that the best chief of staff even though he doesn't fit into the scheme of things which is having the military run our government which is what they want more and more of yeah

2:24:03 is still Newt Gingrich because Gingrich has got, he understands the system better. And he's a lightning rod. He can draw energy away from things that are problematic. Yes! He'd be great chief of staff but they shipped him off to they shipped him off to the Vatican where he was just gonna get fatter What a gig damn what a gig that's the best So of all the stories we've talked about in the past week, guess which one got the most feedback on our show? And bear in mind that we're a podcast. Taylor Swift. No no no thank god for that! Better than that

CHAPTER 41 / 47 Discussion

Service Dog Fraud, ADA Regulations and Therapy Pets

The widespread use of "fake" service dogs in restaurants and on airplanes has drawn criticism from both the public and the visually impaired community. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), service dogs must perform specific tasks, whereas therapy or comfort pets have no legal right of access. Florida recently passed a law making it a misdemeanor to knowingly misrepresent a pet as a service animal, addressing the ease of buying fraudulent vests and IDs online.

service dogs· ada· therapy pets· fraud· florida law

2:24:47 I didn't expect, expected feedback but not quite this much. Okay No the service dog gripe that i have Oh the service dog gripe Service dog yeah Yeah you had another gripe today about dogs You hate animals Yes since I don't have any I'm clearly an animal abuser just like the president So my problem is that I am seeing people with service dogs all over the place in restaurants and air travel, just... And they're clearly not service dogs. They are comfort dogs. They are therapy dogs but there is no legal basis to have a service dog that is not a service dog with you in places where dogs are forbidden So if there's a couple of things with the ADA The American Disability Act, the service dog must perform a service

2:25:40 like a trick, it has to do something. Like lead you... A trick? Yeah, a trick! Roll over! In fact you are not allowed to ask what affliction you have but You are allowed to ask is that- Is the dog necessary for uh.. Not uh... disability and then you're allowed Wait Then your're allowed to ask What service does the dog provide And It specifically states in the ADA That therapy dogs Are not service dogs And the people who are angry about this, in this being a podcast which is why it doesn't surprise me we got a lot of feedback. Is people with sight disability that's the politically correct term for blind and because they're different isn't it? Blind dogs guide dog for the blind is different than a service dog no that is that is in fact a service dog boy that is a service dog

2:26:33 We can't gripe about that. We don't have any complaints about guide dogs for the blind, why are people giving us crap? No no the blind people are chiming in saying these A-holes with their therapy dogs is bullshit and it's giving our dogs a bad name I have a report! Can you tell which one of these animals is a service dog and which isn't Good boy, buddy. Every step is a matter of trust for Mary Ann Brignan. Trust that her service dog Percy will keep her safe and trust that others will let him. But that trust has been tested by people parading fake service animals. What do you think? I think it's terrible there endangering our

2:27:22 our image. Service dog handler Michael Pierce knows the feeling. I truly believe that over the three year period, I've been with her she's probably saved my life several times and i don't even know it. Michael and Mary Ann don't advertise their dogs as service animals with vests or ID cards they don't have to according to the Americans with Disabilities Act for a while couldn't understand it and fought it but then I realized that those cards are so easy to get on the Internet. All we had to do was go online and search service animal gear, and for 50 or 60 bucks this is what we got. People fake having a service animal so they can bring it to places animals aren't allowed like many stores and restaurants. They also do it so they don't have to pay for their animals to fly. He's a therapy dog

2:28:16 a therapy dog wearing a service animal vest. Do you know the difference between a service animal and a therapy pet? A therapy pet, a therapy animal is actually a service animal. Not according to the ADA, service dogs perform tasks for people with disabilities and have the right to go anywhere a person is allowed. Therapy dogs have no special rights. There's a definite difference. The service animals have more extensive training what Faith and I As of July 1st, knowingly posing your pet as a service animal is a second-degree misdemeanor in Florida. You can't possibly imagine how important what you're doing is and it's a story to you but for us It's what is required to get this law to work and that is education Ah The problem with this report Is its two years old This has been an issue Wow

2:29:18 You pulled that trick twice in the show. I know, I couldn't help it! It just happened that way but this is a real problem uh it's also it's bullcrap it's annoying and it doesn't...I mean it's going to be very problematic first of all you know people are owned slavery if you go by the animal rights activists who say animals you know people are animals animals are people it's all the same thing so you know that's why you're a caretaker you can't own a pet You don't have a dog, you take care of the dog. But yeah I guess it's not slavery even though they're animals are people and people are animals And then just this fakery and buying service dog gear on the internet and then oh my therapy pet We need to come up with some ideas for this bring this to a halt This has to stop I don't know if we can It is like major societal trend

2:30:17 You find the dogs in restaurants and you know, they're everywhere. It depends on... I haven't run into a bad dog who is in that category of phony. Phonies! There would be no lecture to the dog. You phony! You know you're not a service dog. Maybe we are approaching it from the wrong way? Maybe she just get her own service animals Yes this my service goat. Yeah sorry he's little loud but he performs very important service to me whenever I feel down My service goat is there. Yeah, that would work I would encourage our no agenda listeners who are blind get yourself a service pony Get yourself a service goat. I'm sure it'd be funny. I'm sure we have some I mean just because you're blind doesn't mean You don't have the sense of humor? I'm sure that I'm sure someone will do this for us. Well. We'll see yeah

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

Steve Bannon, 60 Minutes Interview and Catholic Church

In a 60 Minutes interview, Steve Bannon criticized the Catholic Church's stance on DACA, claiming the bishops have an "economic interest" in illegal immigration to fill their pews. Bannon argued that while he respects church doctrine, immigration is a matter of national sovereignty. The comments have sparked a backlash from church leaders like Cardinal Dolan, who Bannon singled out for criticism.

steve bannon· 60 minutes· catholic church· daca· cardinal dolan

2:31:14 All right, what else we got? I have Dennis Bannon. Bannon is coming up on 60 minutes today Oh that's the yeah i'm looking forward to that huge interview they've clipped it They keep clipping it and giving it to us on the central intelligence broadcasting system and um And the latest one is, oh Bannon insulted the Catholic Church. Oh no! I'm sorry, you hit it right. It's already making headlines for Bannon controversial comments about the Catholic church. Bishops criticized President Trump decision this past week to scrap the DACA program which protects about 800 thousand young immigrants from deportation

2:31:55 Look what he did on DACA the other day. Okay, I don't agree with that DACA decision but i understand how he struggled with it. I understand how he's giving a possibility of a legislative thing and he said even last night in a tweet...even a tweet He would rethink it Trust me The guys on the far right The guys on the conservative side are not happy with this Can I remind you A good catholic That Cardinal Dole is opposed to whats happening at DACA Cardinal Dolan. The Catholic Church has been terrible about this. Okay, fair enough. The bishops have been terrible about this By the way you know why? You know why because unable to really...

2:32:33 to come to grips with the problems in the church, they need illegal aliens. They need illegal aliens to fill the churches. It's obvious on the face of it. That is what the entire Catholic bishop is condemning. They have an economic interest. They have an economic interest in unlimited immigration, unlimited illegal immigration. Boy that's a tough thing to say about your church! As much as I respect Cardinal Dolan and the bishops on doctrine, this is not doctrine. This is not doctrine at all! I totally respect the Pope and I totally respect the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals on doctrine. This is not about doctrine. This is about the sovereignty of a nation. And in that regard they're just another guy with an opinion

2:33:18 Well, there we go. Ben's out of shape now if he'd have said the Catholic Church has an interest in small boys... Now that would have been a story! That would've been something but he didn't say that He was just bitching and moaning about this But they made a huge story out of this And of course it is mostly to plug the interview which I'm sure is I don't know. It's you know, that's what it is part of the whole scheme of putting these guys have just been fired on now this being but let's let's look at it from our perspective this being CBS Banyan please please pronounce his code name properly Banyan Actually, I saw another body language thing. What's her name? Bogart whatever her name is and she did Banyan and She said this isn't this is not a man who was worried This is not a man who was thrown out This is a man who has been given a new job But how does this work with CBS the being you know the agency and Banyan what are they gonna do will they I mean his banion in with them What's going on

2:34:16 Well, let's look at it from a strategic perspective. Let's say that the military have taken over the government that was previously run by the CIA. Okay, I think it wrote this up in a newsletter and they and if you just already heard the Judicial Watch guy bitching about this because they're doing a crappy job yeah there you know these guys aren't that good at this the CIA has always been good at this and so they're trying to get the CIA back in what better guy to help them than Banyan? Now, if that doesn't sound nutty enough... I like it. I'm all for it. Yeah, it's a possibility. We'll know what they made of him. They're gonna do a lot of Bannion talking so Bannion may be read in and they're saying look these guys these military guys are just a bunch of idiots. Yeah exactly! That would be sad now if he attacks Kelly then we know there really is a full-on war

CHAPTER 43 / 47 Discussion

State Department Briefing, Heather Nauert and Russian Parity

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert faced a difficult briefing regarding the U.S. search of Russian diplomatic properties in San Francisco. Nauert argued the searches were necessary to achieve "parity" after Russia expelled U.S. diplomats, but she struggled to answer questions about the legality of searching sovereign property. The briefing became contentious when Nauert accused journalists of "working for RT" for asking critical questions.

heather nauert· state department· russia· diplomatic parity· san francisco embassy

2:35:19 Because we know that's the guy if he leaves. I guarantee he is attacking Kelly Okay, that'll be a good one to look at beautiful damn this getting thick here John We're in the midst of it all with you now No other show could get away with even discussing such a crazy matter But our longtime listeners listen to this and go oh yeah sounds right was right to me But I have, you know, started watching the State Department briefings again since Heather Nowart is doing it. You've seen Heather? Sometimes she looks like... what's her name?... Cameron

2:36:01 Cameron Diaz. Cameron Diaz, yeah a little bit I think you're right she looks like at least her and one other Hollywood star she has the Starlet look about her She looks very... Total Starlet look But she was very frustrated this past week Very frustrated And her binder is way too big The binder is too big She's resorting to people coming in and prompting her about stuff that she didn't know There was a little back-and-forth that I wanted to share This is about the invasion and search of sovereign Russian turf,

2:36:39 in San Francisco at the embassy. And what Heather is going to try and tell us here, that this is bringing us back to parody but there's a... you'll hear in this Russian journalist who say hey wait a minute what's going on? Is it not sovereign then you'll hear an American journalist I think from CNN she wants to know about the sovereignty as well and then we get Matt chiming in And when Matt chimes in, Heather goes a little bit wacky.

2:37:25 I love how she says ma'am. She's like a school teacher in a way, like ma'am let me just tell you something ma'am. Russia's consent? How can you explain this? Ma'am this is something that we the Russian government said that it wanted to get to parity. Russian government said it wanted to get to parity and now our missions are number of our buildings are closer to parody okay so the idea here... This is what she's trying to tell the press and she's surprised they're pushing back The idea is, hey Russia threw out a whole bunch of our people because they wanted parity with how many people are there. You know what? They have too many buildings we're going to invade and search two Russian buildings and that will bring us back to parity so then were kind of all even that's what she's gonna try and sell. Okay I'm just going to leave it at that okay let's move on. Okay hold on go ahead hi. Something you said about about parody What is um

2:38:20 The US searching a Russian property have to do with parody. We, okay first of all and I guess you guys find this funny but... Isn't she just like a school mom? Oh, I guess you guys find that very funny. She's very defensive about this topic. Oh but she is out of her depth. Because everybody knows this is totally illegal. Exactly. First of all and I guess you guys find this funny but some chuckles in the back here. I just want to point that out. The whole reason that this occurred was because the government of Russia said they wanted parity

2:39:01 They asked a lot of our members to leave from our properties in Russia. And so here we're trying to get back to parity, okay? All of this was conducted in accordance with the Foreign Missions Act and it was all conducted in accordance with the Vienna Conventions. But I'm just curious like do you still consider that sovereign Russian property or were those valid questions? Property search because there was a concern that they were being used for intelligence purposes, which would be like a different issue than parity. Because you know the Russians kind of closed some... Lisa, I'm not gonna get into that right now okay? I'm just not going to get into it. Let's move on to something else right now. Shut up!

2:39:45 If some of these matters I'm not gonna, I'm not going to get into and debate with you here from the podium. When I can give you additional information, I certainly will and would be happy too. Q Mac! A question though maybe perhaps or consider taking a question are you aware in Russia or any other country where US missions that have been vacated have been searched by the host Um, whether it's their version of the FBI or their version of diplomatic security. You know what? I don't know if you all are working for RT today or what but... Wow! That's a borderline clip of the day dynamite and she'll pawn this off and wind it up with a real uh

2:40:30 Crap just pussy whether it's their at their version of the FBI or their version of the clinics You know what? I don't know if you all are working for our tea today, but I Will ask that question I don't know. I've been here four months. I don't know the normal process for asking, I don't know the normal process for going through those facilities but i will look into that okay? I have only been here four months! I can be funny too man! Wow you may be cute Heather but well they do this stuff and you wonder why they get comes up in their conversations she should just quashed it from the get-go

2:41:18 Nick, couldn't do it. Nick, nipped it in the butt. Couldn't do it! No... But so we'll see what happens between Matt and Heather? Well you know what I think we both agreed on this thesis but they'd also confiscated that property that the lodge has done on the other side of Connecticut or something someplace and think they're gonna get end up giving this stuff back to the Russians after they put in the most high-tech buggy Yes yes putting all the good gear Some of the new stuff that they know there's no defense for yeah, I don't know what the new stuff is. I haven't got a clue but it has to exist maybe some of that high-tech Sonic stuff you said it can be the old bugs where these take this loop and you walk around You see in the movies It's gotta be something more special than that you shouldn't be able to find these things exactly put right into brickwork Exactly

CHAPTER 44 / 47 Discussion

Facebook, Pharmaceutical Marketing and Media Competition

Facebook held a private breakfast for pharmaceutical marketers to discuss targeting users for clinical trials, a move that threatens the advertising revenue of traditional cable news networks. The hosts suggest that the sudden surge in media criticism of Facebook—including reports on Russian election meddling—is partly driven by the networks' fear of losing lucrative pharma ad dollars to the social media giant.

facebook· pharmaceutical industry· advertising· cnbc· clinical trials

2:42:19 Alright, you guys just really oh wait a minute. Yeah I did want to bring this up during the donation segment Facebook already a little bit under pressure now from The old left that in particular Rachel Maddow very very mad about Facebook You know by allowing ads from Russian propagandists to throw the election to To elect Donald Trump it's all done through Facebook Mm-hmm yeah So, you know they're getting a lot of pressure and I think that you'll see the news networks going all out and really getting mad at doing all kinds of things to discredit Facebook. They've been waiting for this... well not that this is a story that will help...I think the opportunity is to blame Russia meddling on Facebook but the real reason maybe in this story comes from CNBC

2:43:14 that Facebook had a big breakfast, invitation only breakfast for pharmaceutical marketers to learn about targeting users for their clinical trials. This is big! Oh yes! This is big! Yeah I saw that... This is very very big now you're messing with the cable news guys You're gonna come after our pharma advertisers? Okay son we're gonna end you Oh, that could be. I never thought it was going after their advertiser they were looking for people so they can get them into trials Right! That's a huge service that Facebag can provide Yeah And the pharmaceuticals are the advertisers Yes Yeah, that would upset especially TV people who really... and magazines too to some extent

2:44:08 that rely on the pharmaceutical dollar. They don't need Facebook stealing that dollar." No! And just the mere fact this meeting took place, I think is enough for... You watch keep your eye on anti-Facebook from CNN MSNBC Fox CNBC reporting on it fairly i don't think they care. Well mainly CBS NBC and ABC Yeah, but yeah well it'll bubble up. It'll bubble up to them We'll see what the story is but right now its what seems to be happening his face face bag responsible Did hasn't Hillary put this in her book yet? That's where the story belongs she with volume 2 you have to blame Facebook God yeah I can't wait The only other story I have is Dennis Rodman

CHAPTER 45 / 47 Discussion

Dennis Rodman, Kim Jong-un and Good Morning Britain

Dennis Rodman appeared on Good Morning Britain to discuss his personal friendship with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, describing their time together as involving karaoke and horseback riding. Rodman expressed hope that he could facilitate a meeting between Kim and President Trump. Host Piers Morgan ended the interview by asking to join Rodman on his next trip to the Hermit Kingdom.

dennis rodman· kim jong-un· piers morgan· north korea· diplomacy

2:45:04 who appeared on Good Morning Britain with Piers Morgan this week. And, uh...Piers Morgan had legitimate questions about Kim Jong-un and what Dennis Rodman can do to help you know to maybe make a connection between the president and the Supreme Leader. Pierce's real motivation and motive behind the interview becomes apparent at the end of this clip. unlikely connection. How on earth have you become friends with the North Korean leader, and what sort of influence do you think you have over him? Well it's not all about that... He has two piercings in his lip

2:45:47 And this is why I forbade my daughter from ever doing anything in your tongue, your lip. I don't care about a cheek none of that. Your tongue is very dangerous Yeah But she has two through his lip and when you hear it he's already has coherence issues but It's disgusting to listen to unlikely connection. How on earth have you become friends with the North Korean leader? And what sort of influence do you think you have over him? Well, it's not all about that. It was the fact that he lost basketball I basically hang out with him all the time. We live, we sing karaoke and we do a lot of cool things together! And we ride horses... How gay is this? We do karaoke, we ride horses, go skiing, just hang out together! It's really fun! A lot of cool things together. Yeah it's great! We ride horses, we hang out, we go skiing and uh.. we hardly ever talk politics that's the good thing about that

2:46:47 To me, I think if the president even tries to reach out for Kim, I think it would be a great possibility things can happen. But the deal is, though that's what I'm all about. I'm all about bringing unity as force. No politics! Again Mr Dennis but just to ask you once again because what is unique about your relationship with him is you've spent so much time with him and I have no idea what this man is actually like? I know Donald Trump's like...I spend lots of time with him and actually the reality of Donald Trump as you and I know can be a lot different than lunatic people think he is

2:47:26 Just give us a little insight, Dennis into the personality of Kim Jong-un. Pierce I tell you what David you know as well as i do Donald could be a little crazy sometimes and that's when you are done you know donald trump attitude is he loves to be cocky he loves to beat the boss he loves to be the man which i love donald trump and uh i think that i thank donald trump for giving me opportunity to be on his show an opportunity to be his friend and an opportunity to be American. But I just think that one day, Pierce, if someone can reach out, if Donald could say okay you know what maybe I would try to do something. Next time you go to North Korea can I come with you? You know what I asked a lot of people to do that.

2:48:12 And Obama shut me down. I will come, if I play this, it played this peers next time I go to North Korea and I would take you peers now once you do one thing for Come back to America or London, or whatever. Like I said people don't need to hate me because guess what? Like I said, I don't love him. I just want to try and straighten things out for everyone get along together. Dennis you have a deal next time you go on the plane let's meet Kim Jong-un. Great talking to you Dennis see in the UK. That is what it was all about. I just wanna go to North Korea! Hey sounds like you. Yep yep sounds just like me

2:48:57 Well, not really. Trying to scrounge a trip but... I'd do it! I'd be part of that entourage. Shit, I would go in a heartbeat. I'd polish his balls. You know the basketballs? Yeah. I want to go horseback riding and skiing and hanging out singing karaoke. But I'm telling you Dennis Rodman still may just do it. Wouldn't that be great get Don Dennis Rodman with Trump to go to North Korea? Then they have a Dennis Rodman statue in North Korea Ha ha, yeah. Okay. Reminder! The October 1st deadline's coming up everybody that's when Google screws everybody you gotta be HTTPS is Dvorak dot org HTTPS? I believe it might be. It's not that hard to fix. It's a pain in the ass because the Chrome browser will now display a huge... I don't know what was it will it be that thief again little guy the little burglar

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Google HTTPS Deadline, Website Security Requirements

Google has set a deadline for websites to transition to HTTPS, warning that the Chrome browser will soon flag non-secure sites with prominent warnings. The hosts discuss the technical hurdles of updating older websites and Amazon S3 buckets to meet these new security standards. They express frustration with being forced into these changes by Google's dominant market position.

google· https· ssl· chrome browser· web development

2:50:00 The Hamburglar. Yeah, the Hamburglar will be... I gotta do this for curry.com it's annoying. Just do it! Quit stalling! No, I don't like it. I hate being forced. Curry.com is just gonna leave completely HTTPS free but I like it you know dangerous oh my god it's curry.com very dangerous website whoo now I'm gonna leave it Well, curry.com is the one you need isn't show notes website in there? Yeah that's well that's also but it's and they should of course will be changed anyway because its Squarespace site so they'll just do it uh well the show notes themselves run off of Amazon S3 in buckets and that's not HTPS I got to figure that out send a note to the customer service for this three folks sure hey

CHAPTER 47 / 47 Discussion

Miami International Airport, Final Flights Before Irma

Miami International Airport saw record-breaking passenger volume as residents scrambled to catch the last flights out before Hurricane Irma's arrival. Airlines added thousands of seats, but many travelers remained stranded as the terminal eventually closed. Those unable to secure flights were bused to local emergency shelters to wait out the storm.

miami international airport· hurricane irma· evacuation· airlines· shelters

2:50:57 What do I have to do? If i give you a little memo and it's with the three or four steps, you have to take. Oh yeah okay...I don't think it's that easy It's gonna be-it's going to require five system reboots for sure You got anything else to play us out here. I got a couple of things that could play I get the update on Catalonia, which is everyone's getting pissed off about now Yeah What else and we also have the air last airport report just before they close the Airport ABC was there with one of their let's do this through the airport or but this is Miami I Believe so you think David We saw so many lines at gas stations today as well Matt, our thanks to you. They were urgent pleas at Miami's airport for people not to show up unless they already had tickets every passenger jet sold out and tonight the last flights now taking off and take a look at this radar from midday the sky full of flights the highest concentration right there over Florida people escaping the storm zone. So this evening where are they now taking the people who could not get on those flights? ABC's Amy Robach is there

2:52:00 Today a crush of passengers hoping to make the last flight out of Miami. Lines of desperate passengers snaking through the airport, a sea of bags piling up in the terminal. A whole week without electricity internet food, especially when you have a baby. It's harsh." Airlines adding thousands of seats and sending bigger jets to fit more passengers tonight the terminal nearly empty the last flights taking off Nick Williams is one of the lucky ones who's getting out I got a last minute ticket like this afternoon. But so many here with no flight home, the airport is now busing those stranded passengers to a nearby shelter to ride out the storm You don't have your bags? No you just have this and now you're being bused to a shelter that has to be incredibly overwhelming. You just want to go home yeah

2:52:52 And David a stunning number for you tonight Miami International Airport saw more passengers today than it has in any other single day in the last 10 years and even still with that number as we've been reporting so many passengers still left without a flight stranded they are now being bused to local shelters across Miami to ride out this monster storm. David? All right I think we can end on that yeah well actually we should Okay, okay. Thank you Adam stay safe And from Northern Silicon Valley where I have to go to a store to get fish, I'm John C Devorak

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