Episode 962 · Thursday, 7 September 2017

Service Pony

A massive hurricane exposes the fragility of American weather models while a shadow struggle for control of the White House plays out between military handlers and the CIA.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 1m listen | 56 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 962

About this episode

Hurricane Irma bears down on Florida as Miami officials warn of catastrophic failures involving twenty-five construction cranes and a twelve-foot storm surge. While NBC News and CBS News broadcast conflicting surge estimates, residents in the Caribbean protectorates of Barbuda and Saba report flattened infrastructure and destroyed airports. The storm's intensity has sparked a debate over meteorological supercomputing, with the European model currently outperforming American systems in high-resolution predictive accuracy.

Amazon faces price gouging allegations after dynamic pricing algorithms spiked bottled water costs, while the Red Cross draws criticism for allegedly blocking hot meal deliveries in Houston following Hurricane Harvey. In the political sphere, Steve Pieczenik claims a power struggle exists between military intelligence and the CIA for influence over the Trump administration. General John Kelly is reportedly managing White House operations as the Rand Corporation shapes a new strategy for North Korea involving psychological operations and the Sony film The Interview.

Linguistic oddities and cultural shifts take center stage as the BBC launches a Pidgin English service for West Africa, featuring viral stories of disastrous Tinder dates. Prime Minister Theresa May faces a parliamentary battle over the Brexit Repeal Bill while Jeremy Corbyn challenges the use of zero-hours contracts at McDonald's. In a lighter moment, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the proliferation of service animals in airports and the rise of childless European leaders like Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron.


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CHAPTER 01 / 56 Discussion

Hurricane Irma Preparations, Horowitz Tiki Hut Construction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the session discussing the weather conditions in Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They report on a text from a friend named Horowitz who is preparing his boat and a newly constructed Tiki hut for Hurricane Irma in Florida. The construction of the Tiki hut reportedly required specific blessings or involvement from American Indians to bypass certain permit requirements.

hurricane irma· florida· horowitz· tiki hut· seminole indians· austin· silicon valley

00:00 That's right, baby. I'm in show business. Through no fault of our own, we are coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin-Tejas. Capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's overcast cold chilly It's kind of weird...I don't know what to make of it. I'm John C. DeVore It's always nice to have a weather report on a podcast. I guarantee we'll be talking about the weather on this podcast Yeah, you are right what happened to your to your heat wave? Is it over now is it done? It was two days Oh, that's not a he rate card break and that's a heat wavelet

00:52 It's a wavelet. It was a wavelet. Just a little wavelet, oh it's beautiful! You go to the other side of the mountain and it's hot over there. Not just in the Bay Area, near the bay area is not. It's beautiful here in Austin. It's 75 degrees, sun shining... Oh yes perfect weather absolutely stunning. I can't ask for anything more. No. I got a text from Horowitz this morning What'd he say? He says he's now officially freaking out. Because you know, I text with him quite a lot actually we have little... Sure he is freaking out! It's the new house. Yeah no he doesn't care about the house he cares about the boat The boat and the Tiki bar Oh yeah the boat can get ruined and the Tiki hut

01:41 A very interesting explanation of the building of the Tiki Hut. Yeah, I heard it yeah. Of course I heard it! I didn't realize that these things had to be kind of blessed by the Seminoles and all this other stuff... Otherwise you can get a permit to build it is if it's like a casino and get a couple Indian guys. I'm sorry not Indian guys American Indians Yes, as they like to be called. Native Americans? No no no! They don't like Native American it's American Indians Oh is that the latest? Yeah Or is that just Texas? Do we know this? I asked some American Indians Well they don't care what difference does it make what they think It's what the left liberals in San Francisco Bay Area think It is what is just I tell you It is not what they want It is not what they require What do they want?!

CHAPTER 02 / 56 Discussion

Hurricane Skepticism, Barbuda and Saba Storm Damage

The discussion shifts to the geographical impact of Hurricane Irma on Caribbean islands like Barbuda and the Dutch protectorate of Saba. While acknowledging reports of flattened airports and destroyed infrastructure, skepticism is expressed regarding the accuracy of hurricane path predictions and "spaghetti models." Comparisons are made to previous storms like Hurricane Matthew, which some characterized as a "dud" relative to the initial media hype.

hurricane irma· barbuda· saba· hurricane matthew· atlantic hurricanes· storm models

02:33 Oh, man. Yeah. Let's stay with the hurricane just for a moment. It's very interesting to be with someone who has lived through two hurricanes in Florida because I'm very skeptical and I've seen this thing out by was it? How is it Barbuda Have you heard of this place? Barbuda bar Buddha bar Buddha. I never heard of it Yeah, it was on the map. It's a very small island right in the middle of all these islands. It was on the map? There were Saint Martin and all these other... It was on- it was on the map just before got wiped off the map is beautiful Yes apparently one of our uh one of our intelligence connections military intelligence is in Saba which is a Dutch protectorate

03:20 Well that one I have not heard of. Oh man, he sent me 15-20 pictures the airport completely destroyed just flattened not flatten but messed up really really messed up they got it bad yeah so anyway living with the keeper who has been through a couple these you know i said well when you see this previously 10 years ago the last time we had any hurricane activity in the Atlantic What would you think? She's like, this is really bad. This is going to pop right up and it's gonna go all the... And she knows a lot of anecdotal stuff about these because I'm skeptical like oh, it's gonna make this 85 degree turn. No 43 degree turn. Well if you remember the last...I can't remember which one it was but it was just a few years ago

04:10 And Horowitz was tying down his boat then too, maybe three years ago. And you were saying oh, his boats gonna get wrecked and all this other stuff and Horowitz is poo-pooing the whole thing and nothing happened but The pictures he sent, if you remember were just of nothing. There was nothing going on it was just they had this big thread of this monster hurricane. Yeah which hurricane was that? I don't know. Was that Matthew? They don't even talk about it anymore because there was such a dud! I think it was Matthew wasn't it? Was that Matthew? No I don't remember. I believe so...I think so um anyway yeah there's there's just a lot of different

CHAPTER 03 / 56 Discussion

Meteorological Supercomputers, European vs American Weather Models

A comparison of weather forecasting technology reveals that the European model is often considered superior to American models due to higher resolution and better supercomputing power. The hosts question why American meteorological technology has seemingly lagged behind since the 1980s. The segment concludes with a brief critique of how news algorithms and supercomputers are used to influence public opinion and maintain a state of fear.

nbc· supercomputers· weather models· european model· meteorological data· algorithms

04:47 Discrepancies and you know I've got quite a number of emails that people have sent in Regarding the measurement of the winds yeah, cuz it's still cat 5 cat 5 But it really probably won't be a cat 3 when it hits like I know what the hell that means when it hits land. But if it does, it may not! I mean these models are you know with...I'm very skeptical of all models in general. You know they call them spaghetti models? I don't remember that term. I saw it in the newsletter and hadn't heard of it either and then I was aware of it and started looking at like hmm actually have a A short little clip here from NBC.com regarding the weather models.

05:45 Supercomputer power. The European is much stronger, it has a higher resolution forecast and on average it's given better forecast ever since the 1980s Doesn't mean well this time but on average it does How about that? The Brits got better supercomputers! It doesn't make any sense...it says they've been every bit better every since the 1980s Your Apple Watch has got more computing power than a 1980s machine. I don't know what the... I don't know? How come we haven't at least caught up to the 1980's, this is bull! It's NBC. They probably have a better algo. Oh man, don't get me started on the algos. Don't get me started on the algos John. When the algorithm starts to sway opinions on The News Today

CHAPTER 04 / 56 Discussion

NBC News Coverage, Hurricane Irma Impact and Miami Infrastructure

NBC News reports highlight the intensity of Hurricane Irma, comparing it to Hurricane Andrew from 25 years prior. Coverage focuses on Miami's readiness, specifically the danger posed by 25 construction cranes that could collapse in Category 5 winds and the potential for a 12-foot storm surge. Residents with hurricane-impact windows discuss their preparations while the media emphasizes the record-setting strength of the storm.

nbc news· hurricane irma· miami· hurricane andrew· storm surge· construction cranes

06:32 There's a guy coding in LA to keep us afraid and Facebook made Everybody heard the call-to-action. We need some algo jingles, we only have a couple We'll play them as we go along. Let's listen to the big report from NBC, this is the Irma NBC reports. Like previous monster storms Hugo Floyd and Ivan, Irma is what's known as a classic Cape Verde hurricane formed off the west coast of Africa they're typically among the most intense.

07:13 faster and stronger than Hurricane Andrew. Andrew sliced through South Florida in Louisiana 25 years ago killing dozens, damaging 125 thousand homes and causing more than $25 billion dollars in damage with airlines canceling flights later this week and prices skyrocketing. down to Fort Myers, Florida. The Pryor family borrowed an RV and drove 16 hours overnight from Richmond Virginia to Fort Myers to rescue 93 year old grandma Janet and her friend Beverly. And they're in! Tonight they're among the millions desperately trying to escape the most powerful Atlantic storm in memory Gabe Gutierrez NBC News Key Largo Florida

08:01 I'm Kerry Sanders in Miami where tonight there's a balancing act Megan curler. I mean this is one report into the next yeah The latest interesting help us storming south to the not even they don't even go back to the studio They just know straight from one thing you're doing this well, this is very new Yeah. Uncurious and resentful. At the beginning, you didn't get to beginning-beginning-beginning. They kind of... they tell you that this is gonna happen. Ah okay I uh So it's not really a surprise? I like it! It's kind of dynamic. I do too, it moves it along. Gabe Gutierrez NBC News Key Largo Florida

08:39 I'm Kerry Sanders in Miami where tonight there's a balancing act. Megan Curlew preparing to ride out the storm in South Miami We specifically bought this house two years ago because it had full hurricane impact windows and doors. Which means what? It means that nothing can get through it, it might as well be bulletproof. 25 years ago Megan was 11 years old when Hurricane Andrew pummeled South Florida widespread devastation followed by decades of rebuilding now concerns if Miami is ready to handle another monster storm this is what Miami looks like today the coastline crowded with new condos but built with stricter codes established after Andrew

09:19 It's a strong building code. Is it strong enough? This is the question I don't have the answer for you Another danger, 25 cranes the city is now warning could collapse in category 5 winds And on the highest floor stronger gust 75 miles per hour on the ground turns to 115 miles per hour on the 30th floor Then there's the storm surge that could be 12 feet, which would easily flood a low-lying Miami neighborhood like this. This is what storm surge looks like! It's likely worse than what we saw during Hurricane Matthew in Jacksonville Beach Florida last year... Which is why even Florida Storm veterans like Megan are anxious tonight The panic has set in now and I keep hearing where it's shifting and where the winds are and I'm getting nervous

10:08 It's a good prelude. It's a good one! Yes, I agree that's Horowitz by the way that woman at the end was the same as the woman earlier who had the windows you couldn't bulletproof Right well i've been practicing hold on where is it let's see if this works because we need to have pre-storm sounds and reports during the storm and this was a very good example Let me see if this works. Do a little of this, and why is it not on? Come on here we go. Okay should be blowing right into the mic okay John! Well it's not loud enough... John I'm trying to get the blowing of the mic here we go uh John people here are obviously quite worried you know what you could do hold on okay what I think if you take your fingers yeah oh

CHAPTER 05 / 56 Discussion

CBS News Coverage, Caribbean Destruction and Storm Surge Discrepancies

CBS News provides updates on the destruction in Puerto Rico, St. Martin, and St. Bartholomew, where wind gusts topped 200 miles per hour. A discrepancy is noted between NBC's 12-foot storm surge prediction and CBS's 9-foot estimate. The report features a resident in Puerto Rico who refused to evacuate, claiming his self-built house was strong enough to withstand the record-setting winds.

cbs news· puerto rico· st. martin· st. bartholomew· storm surge· hurricane irma

11:09 I have to work on it. It's the I think the finger signal work That's what she said Wow, we're up to the arm of the terrorist. All right everybody let's keep moving with the show! Anyway let's go to the CBS version of The Report before you do that though you heard the guy say the 12-foot surge right? Yeah Now listen this is an ISO this is the Irma Surge according to CBS I just wanted to play it Oh is there something I can use over and over again? This surge from Hurricane Irma has the potential to be more than nine feet high Okay well thats not the same as twelve is it No its nine

11:56 Alright, let's go to Irma CBS report. This is another variation of the report and then I have a couple of comments I want to make about these reports. Irma, a category 5 has already turned deadly on the islands of the Caribbean. The National Hurricane Center says chances have grown for a direct hit on Florida possibly as soon as this weekend. We have a team of correspondents covering the storm versus Tony DeCople in Puerto Rico

12:35 This wall of wind and rain is only getting worse tonight as hundreds of Puerto Ricans are already in shelters, and more than 200 tourists from this hotel have been evacuated out of their rooms into a ballroom where they're expecting a very long night in the storm. Residents were warned to brace for the worst as the strongest winds in a century lash Puerto Rico Burma has already left plenty of evidence of its record-setting strength. Wind gusts topped 200 miles per hour, knocking out power as buildings collapsed and debris flew. St. Martin took a direct hit wind and pelting rain blew palm trees horizontal

13:15 Boats were left tangled in the port as cars were nearly submerged. One tourist tweeted that the noise of the storm was insane and was like standing behind a jet engine, he took shelter in the concrete stairwell of a hotel In St Bartholomew roofs flew off buildings streets became rivers as Irma continued its destructive trek past the British Virgin Islands on it's way to the Florida Keys Puerto Rico ordered an evacuation of low-lying areas, but in the coastal village of Las Croabas 80 year old Augustin Moija has decided to stay in his home along with his wife and grandson. Most of your neighbors have evacuated? That's right But why not you because they don't feel safe in their houses I know my house there because I built it myself It is a strong house

CHAPTER 06 / 56 Discussion

Construction Crane Safety, Meteorological Data Collection Issues

The conversation addresses the logistical difficulty of dismantling large construction cranes before a storm, which can take up to two weeks. A producer provides a report claiming that actual ground-based weather stations often record lower wind speeds than those reported by the National Hurricane Center. There is a further claim that some weather stations are intentionally disabled when a hurricane makes landfall to avoid recording data that contradicts official estimates.

construction cranes· engineering· wind speeds· national hurricane center· weather stations

14:09 All right, now there's a couple things going on that I think we need at least some commentary. Yes Why didn't these cranes are all over the place in Florida? And they they say they're gonna tie him down but you know let the tops float around like a weathervane This is the latest yeah because they didn't have enough time to take the crane down how much time Do they need it takes quite a while? I've watched months It can be two weeks. I've watched it extensively here in downtown Austin and i've seen them swiveling around in high winds, that's what they do But it's not, I agree it's not a good idea. But shouldn't there be some engineer who can look at the numbers and say well you know this crane can sustain X? Seems like if you're putting that kind of structure amongst people you might want to know kinda what it could do. Not that we'll be able to measure it got a great note from producer Sean from Las Vegas who is often he says I work often with meteorological data

15:12 And he says, I actually applaud the podcast. When you bring up the fact that when a hurricane or other tropical storm makes landfall the wind speeds measured actual ground- or buoy based weather stations don't even come close to the record breaking quote and quote stunning values reported by The National Hurricane Center as it turns out once the hurricane comes near their stations they actually turn them off and disable them They don't even measure when it's going right over them Isn't that interesting? Well, there are things I know that... well the wind turbines that are all over California. There's a bunch of them nearby when it is too windy they turn them off and you think wait a minute isn't that when you'd want it running? Don't you wanna collect that energy from the wind no they turn them off. They burn out. They only have them running when this just mild wind burns out

CHAPTER 07 / 56 Discussion

Amazon Price Gauging Allegations, Dynamic Pricing Algorithms

Amazon faces accusations of price gouging in Florida as bottled water prices reportedly spiked ahead of Hurricane Irma. The company denies engaging in "surge pricing" but admits to using "dynamic pricing" algorithms that adjust costs based on demand. The hosts criticize the use of machine learning to jack up prices for essential goods during emergencies, arguing it subverts traditional supply and demand principles.

amazon· price gouging· bottled water· dynamic pricing· machine learning· algorithms

16:06 Yeah, another thing is there's a big fuss about in Houston. Oh they're gouging for water! They're gouging, they're gouging but where's the fuss about the price of airline tickets that went from like 200 bucks to get from A-B-C? Well Southwest lowered their fares Well Delta didn't. No, no and Amazon is complicit now Amazon stands accused of price gouging ahead of Irma's arrival some people on social media reported price hikes for bottled water in Florida customers say packages of Nestle water were selling for $25 but the same case cost just 1850 in other parts of the country Amazon said it does not engage in surge pricing and deny

16:49 that bottled water prices have changed recently it does say it engages in dynamic pricing where items that are in demand receive price tweaks. This is exactly it, dynamic pricing ladies and gentlemen! There you go. The algo's jacking the price up because that's what it is, it's machine learning It's like hey we learn people like this Jack up the price which I think exactly the opposite of what supposed to happen in supply and demand

CHAPTER 09 / 56 Discussion

Florida Resident Logistics, Orlando Supply Shortages

A producer from Orlando, Florida, provides a first-hand account of the local atmosphere, noting that many residents view hurricanes as an annoyance rather than a threat. Despite this, grocery stores like Publix ran out of water within 30 minutes of opening. Logistics companies in the region are shutting down operations for up to five days, diverting trucks away from Miami and Tampa until the storm passes.

publix· orlando· miami· logistics· supply chain· millennials

19:16 I find the whole thing somewhat baffling, these live reports. Why don't you just go to green screen and leave it at that? Or do what we do. Yeah. It could be fake. John...it's not working. Producer Brandon, salutations John Adam! I'm a Floridian of 21 years who lived through Charlie and Frances despite being young. I come with my own report on the situation. Millennial Report Many of the people who will give an off-the-camera answer to their thoughts are that they're stocked up but are like, what all the memes say online? Hurricanes are more an annoyance than a threat despite what media is telling us. Interesting take We all know to take it seriously and we are this morning I arrived at my neighbor's Publix grocery store 20 minutes after opening just barely got there amount of water at that moment within 30 minutes of opening They were out of water

20:05 In terms of logistics, my company which has a base in Miami is being closed Friday morning in Miami most likely Saturday morning in Orlando where I am. In Orlando? That's quite a ways up! Many of the trucks we would send south to Miami or Tampa from Orlando have been diverted are being held up north until the storm clears By my own listening, my company may be closed for up to five days which is big considering that we are 24-7 terminal in our network We only ever close that long for Christmas and New Years Well, stay safe Brandon. Stay safe. Orlando never gets much of anything We do have we did get a report somebody had to slip in the global warming thing in the local news It's not been as bad as I expected it to be well, that's you Well, I'm not in California good point So we had this global warming report from the San Jose State professor that she and they put this one I don't know if she's only when they could find but she's like a kind of uh, I don't know if she's British or what but she's an oh, she's

CHAPTER 10 / 56 Discussion

Climate Change Debate, San Jose State Professor Analysis

Professor Allison Bridger from San Jose State University links the recent string of hurricanes and heat waves directly to global warming. She argues that warming oceans and atmospheres are creating a "new normal" of extreme weather events. The hosts express skepticism toward this narrative, critiquing the professor's presentation and questioning the validity of "500-year flood" labels for events like Hurricane Harvey.

global warming· climate change· san jose state· hurricane harvey· meteorology

21:04 She's wearing like one of those weird Christmas sweaters, you know that people joke about. And she's like, doesn't know what she is talking about. Why is she wearing that? I don't know and she's old! This was like...and I don't want to say that in a diminutive or not diminutive but in the pejorative way but she seems like an idiot and they brought her on to talk about this being all about it's all global warming from heat waves to back-to-back hurricanes one San Jose State professor says get used to it may become our new normal Tonight she told KPX 5's Maria Medina it is all connected to climate change.

21:44 Back-to-back hurricanes Irma, Jose, Katia and Harvey which devastated parts of Texas. It's got to be a 500 year flood or thousand year flood it's ridiculous are all signs of what San Jose State meteorology professors like Allison Bridger there is the hurricane you can see the eye really well have taught students for years The oceans are warming up just as the atmosphere is warming up she says recent weather events across our country are proof of global warming And now she says it's catching up to us. We've been teaching about this stuff for over 20 years and we're still not doing anything about it Another piece of evidence that climate change is happening according to Professor Bridger, our own record-breaking heat wave over the weekend so hot it even caused equipment problems and delays for BART It's not like we broke the record by a teeny bit...we broke the record

22:37 buy it a lot. So the question is, is this the new norm? I would tend to think so. So what exactly does that mean? The professor says climate change means more and longer heat waves or cold weather droughts and even extreme rain events like hurricanes Harvey was probably able to grow strong because of the super warm temperatures in the ocean in the Gulf of Mexico That's right! You mind die Did you see Dave Weiner's tweet? No, I missed it. But actually unfollowed him. I'm tired of him What did he say well somebody retweeted it that's all but he said What if what have we what are these hurricanes are gonna be coming every day 24-7 Yeah

CHAPTER 11 / 56 Discussion

Hyperbolic Media Narratives, Historical Hurricane Comparisons

The discussion focuses on the tendency of modern media to label every weather event as the "worst ever." While Hurricane Irma is significant, it is noted as the second largest in the Atlantic, not the first. The hosts argue that this hyperbolic framing is designed to drive engagement ("if it bleeds, it leads") rather than provide historical context.

media hyperbole· reno· hurricane irma· atlantic hurricanes· weather history

23:30 I mean it was serious, it was like a serious tweet. Well I was talking to my wife last night and she asked me this crazy rhetorical question which was why is everything nowadays the worst ever? And she's citing specifically a windstorm that took place in Reno that lasted five minutes and it was blew all this dust all over the place. It was the worst ever, she said when she was a kid there was one that lasted a half an hour took to paint off their house. And where is this? How could this what yeah Where? How could this would be the worst ever in everything's the worst ever its the worse ever why does everything have to be the worst ever as we're getting from all these things were stever Yeah. Were stever Well that is

24:16 In fact, interesting this is not the worst ever or the largest ever hurricane as I've heard many times. It is the second largest in the Atlantic! it's not even the largest in the Atlantic I think so why come on? if it bleeds it leads whatever happens uh...I remain very skeptical of the national or international Red Cross in these rescue and cleanup efforts I went shopping, it's actually the past two days. I go to the grocery store and at the checkout there is a donate to The Red Cross. You know big sign you can donate $1, $3, $5, $10 and it goes to The Red Cross And of course would like to donate to Hurricane Harvey victims? Yes I would but not to The Red Cross. And the whole line

CHAPTER 12 / 56 Discussion

Red Cross Criticism, Houston Relief Distribution Issues

Reports from Houston following Hurricane Harvey suggest that the Red Cross interfered with local relief efforts, including blocking the delivery of hot meals to evacuees. Critics argue that the organization's methodology of centralizing all donations before distribution causes unnecessary delays for those in immediate need. The hosts advise listeners to be cautious with cash donations and mention the lack of visible financial aid from the Clinton Foundation.

red cross· hurricane harvey· houston· charitable donations· clinton foundation

25:11 Did you hear what he just said? He doesn't like the Red Cross. You get these horrible, horrible looks and I have some stuff to back it up from Houston This was posted on the face bag... I'm astonished at the behavior of the Red Cross husband-and-wife team At the Mid County Jack Brooks Airport yesterday who together accosted me And took turns berating me because i was trying To bring 400 warm hamburgers to our hungry evacuees who according to them did not need the food because they had already had a sandwich. Yes, one sandwich in 24 hours! They were desperate for a hot meal The Red Cross proceeded to try and load the warm ready-to-eat hamburgers into an ice chest on a plane The pilot who donated his time fuel money plane and arranged delivery of burgers was horrified at not being able to serve them to people right there

26:05 And this goes on and on. What has to happen every single time, according to the local chapters of the Red Cross is they have to... So people brought blankets for people who are wet. No no you can't give them to these people they have to go back to the central distribution point This is how their... They cant give it because they could be having smallpox? No! The way the red cross works I'm sure somebody out there got that joke Yes They continuously take everything that is donated in kind and they take it back to the distribution point. And then they start handing it out, when people bring it for people right there! It's a very odd methodology... at least it comes across as odd to me

26:51 Well, I don't have the clip. I don't think that...I don't but there's a very long report from CBS and maybe try to remember you put it on The Sunday Show that discusses all this and how important it is that you don't give your blankets and your water. We know that! We just need cash. I know a lot of people want us in blankets or water just send your cash Has the Clinton Foundation sent any cash yet? No, no. They don't have it. They ran out of money. Oh damn... Anyway so maybe Sunday! Sunday show day would be a good time to have it hit land if it hits land at all It could still veer off Yeah now- Could still go to Texas as a matter fact but- Noah, Noah talks about that One of the models. Nobody wants even think about it Don't think about because then it might happen There's one spaghetti string that goes towards Texas I saw In your newsletter

CHAPTER 13 / 56 Discussion

Vocabulary Discussion, Adverbs and "Askance"

A brief linguistic detour occurs regarding the word "askance," which one host was previously unfamiliar with. They discuss its use as an adverb and reference Stephen King's advice that "adverbs are not your friend" in writing. The segment transitions back to Horowitz's boat insurance and the relative safety of his house in Florida.

vocabulary· grammar· stephen king· adverbs· linguistics

27:48 Which used the word... Axtance? Ax-axence, what was the word? A scant. A scans. Yeah they looked a scants at the idea. Yeah you were befuddled by this word Yes I had not heard this word! A scants That's funny It's pretty common I've never seen it ever Okay, so but the idea is if it doesn't hit then we shall be looking at the models with a scant No, I know you don't know will be looking askance at the models. Oh a scants Can you look at a person of the opposite? So it's treated differently than the way he just presented right so I can say I was looking at someone of the opposite sex a scans I Was looking asked

28:34 Okay, it's an adverb so what it does is modifies a verb and looking would be the verb askance as the adverb got it So I'm looking a scan scans. Okay? It's like it's like all those ly words that people writers in particular are supposed to use as much as they do Adverbs Stephen King once said adverbs are not your friend told that there was one this writing class hmm But as Scant's I like it. Especially since it is so confusing to you apparently, so... I'm glad you can have a little chuckle at my expense. Yes! That's what I do. Is there anything else we gotta worry about? Well I think- I don't think I have anything else. I am actually interested that Horowitz is getting concerned because all through the show I kept saying well your roof is going to get blown off

29:24 And, uh... He doesn't care about that. There's a new house for him it's a new little place It's small I've been to that house Oh yeah? Yeah when we were in Florida he only cares about the boat Yeah you're right And i think the house will be okay The houses is between other bigger homes and like saying there are really big houses around Andrews little tent there and his tiki tent and his little outboard boat It's got outboard motor. He's got insurance on the boat I think I'm sure he does, and I don't know what can do what they do with these storms Hurricane insurance? I don't know why I'm not sure how this insurance policies work. I know they take a huge Beating as it as it were in Florida from these storms when they happen But once every 25 years is not that much so I had since the last show several to three calls

CHAPTER 14 / 56 Discussion

Steve Pieczenik, Military Intelligence vs CIA Power Struggle

Steve Pieczenik, a former military intelligence official, claims that a struggle for influence over the presidency exists between military intelligence and the CIA. Pieczenik asserts that Barack Obama was a CIA asset handled by John Brennan, whereas Donald Trump is being "handled" by military intelligence. The theory suggests that General John Kelly was placed in the White House to manage Trump's behavior, mirroring a psychological pattern from Trump's youth at a military academy.

steve pieczenik· military intelligence· cia· donald trump· john kelly· continuity of government

30:21 With Steve Pachanik my new friend all right you remember who he is no Steve Pachanik is the guy who was on InfoWars at the same time I was. He knows my uncle... Well he's actually, yeah not- he was never a spook! He was military intelligence. It's big difference to me as well. I'll tell you why now Pretty sure everything I'm telling you is he's mentioned publicly one place. I've done a little bit of investigation because, you know, a lot of people are saying well who was this guy? And i'll tell you after the second call I thought to myself either He's totally truthful or he's completely off his effing rocker so it could be both It could be well it could be both but according to other sources he's still very connected and uh...he's the real deal

31:27 And what he says, in effect there is a... right now we've had kind of a military coup but not the military intelligence. And historically his story is that it has always been a struggle slash battle between military intelligence and CIA who would be running the president I can see that. And he is adamant, by the way, that Obama was CIA, Obama's mother was CIA and that Brennan was Obama's handler. He is adamant about that We had the thesis of the show for awhile we didn't take it

32:10 to the end, but we had it that Obama was CIA and there's some evidence of that. But we never had the Brennan thing and I'm not... It doesn't really ring...I don't like it. My thinking is, I would rather go back to the thinking that George HW Bush is the one who's really running everything Well, in this case Trump was obviously not being run by CIA but CIA is very pissed off about that. How many times have we played a clip or report where someone says he wasn't following the script? We gave him the script! The CIA script! He didn't follow it so Trump is

32:53 supposedly being handled, and I say quote unquote handled by military intelligence. And it struck me that months and months ago before I'd even met Pachenik we played a clip and I said listen to some guys talking about a coup and he's like a military guy or intelligence guy... and that was Pachenik! I only realized it yesterday you know but there was this thing of oh we're gonna stage some kind of coup and the idea is Under the continuity of government which was installed in 2001, which is still in place. I didn't know that you know we're under we have a state of emergency Which has renewed every every year by every president since 9-11 2001 and under continuity of government there are certain people who remain active in government even if they're not and I believe Pachanik to be one of those

33:46 So they have this group who don't really meet, but I guess they communicate with each other. And their entire idea was to get Bannon out to get Gorka out ultimately would like to get Javanka out but that's not going to happen because psychologically that's something the Trump needs they put in Kelly specifically to, and remember Pchenik is a psyops guy. Specifically to trigger an old pattern with Trump which was when his dad when he was in a naughty boy, his dad sent him to military academy

CHAPTER 15 / 56 Discussion

White House Internal Dynamics, General John Kelly's Role

The internal power structure of the Trump administration is analyzed, with General John Kelly described as the essential figure maintaining order. There are claims that Kelly and other military handlers have restricted Trump's Twitter access and are pushing him toward more conventional military strategies in North Korea and Afghanistan. The hosts discuss the tension between "peacetime generals" and combat-experienced personnel regarding these global conflicts.

john kelly· donald trump· military coup· north korea· afghanistan· twitter

34:24 And we already came up with this thesis, I think. We already said this sounds like kind of a good idea and now the problem is... So here's the panic if you believe all this and that Kelly is their guy or Kelly has been they need Kelly in there to run Trump otherwise they got a big problem and Kelly now kinda wants to leave so there's a lot of movement trying to keep Kelly in trying to still keep Javanka at bay And apparently there's this apparatus of military intelligence guys who are doing everything they can and he is very adamant over and over, I'm just reading from my notes here. He says what we're doing no one is going to get killed this all about the internet all about changing ideas manipulating people thinking on the internet

35:14 And then the military coup part is where the handlers, I guess have kind of lost control such as now there's a he admitted there's no command and control system for the president's Twitter so we can't just go and tweet anymore that they apparently have in place. Just looking at what he has or has not been tweeting of late. But that the military guys, they're the ones who are completely off the... And I said are these guys insane? Why would they want to actually go and strike North Korea? He thinks it's still marketing

35:54 And I guess we did sell something to South Korea this past week. There was some... Another set of missiles. But there's no reason for them to do it this way! And, you know the same with Afghanistan. All of this stuff is Trump following along with the not military intelligence but the military generals and we've discussed this before that a lot of combat people do not like their peacetime generals because they've never really seen combat and it's very easy to sit in the war room and run scenarios say okay this is great but none these guys actually been shot at and doesn't really understand what its like

36:36 And the bottom line message was if Kelly leaves, then we have a real problem. Well I think there's a couple of things that affect to have a clip this one of the clips for the humorous moment on the show what you said about them handling him to the point vetting his tweets. They're obviously making him read from a prompter more too, which is weird when he goes out into the wild like he did in South Dakota and gives the regular off-the-cuff speech that he likes to do

CHAPTER 16 / 56 Discussion

Trump Teleprompter Gaffes, "Unite the Red Tape"

Donald Trump is observed struggling with teleprompter delivery during a speech in South Dakota, leading to a verbal gaffe where he said "unite the red tape" instead of "untie." The hosts compare his delivery style to Al Sharpton and suggest that his handlers are forcing him to use a prompter more frequently to control his messaging. Despite the awkward delivery, the segment notes Trump's ongoing efforts toward deregulation.

donald trump· teleprompter· gaffes· al sharpton· deregulation

37:18 He's now reading from a prompter and it doesn't really, you can see him. You can hear in this clip, this is the red tape gaffe. You could hear in this clip him reading from a prompter screwing up in an Al Sharpton way trying to save it and then kind of going back to his normal conversational style And I think there are... This is like people who Start to watch Trump now should start to think of him There's an old Star Trek episode the original series was Shatner where some guy had Taken over that some guy had been dropped off some old star Star Federation guide it now is a was Hitler in this Nazi environment It turned out that the generals Had him drugged up and making them say stuff. He didn't want to say here is Trump on a prompter

38:11 Screwing up just very short clips in ISO. screwing up and then trying to save it, and it becomes an L. Sharpton moment. Barring the amazing things that are possible when we unleash the genius of American innovators unite the red tape and I'll tell you... We have to unite everything! And all that red tape becomes beautiful when you get rid of it but.. Are we getting rid of a lot of red tape by the way? But resist, we must! You're right! We must and we will much about that be committed. Beautiful He's also the reason that he keeps sending him out on the road, the handlers I'm just looking through the rest of my notes. I wrote seven pages in those is because he's not insane but he is hypo kinetic is what Pachandic calls it which he cannot sit still he cannot sit down he has to be moving around and That's why they put him out you just go out there Just do something

CHAPTER 17 / 56 Discussion

North Korea Strategy, Rand Corporation Influence and "The Interview"

Bruce Bennett of the Rand Corporation is identified as a key architect behind the current U.S. strategy toward North Korea. A report suggests that the CIA may have been involved in the production of the Sony film "The Interview" as a psychological operation intended to destabilize Kim Jong-un's regime. Steve Pieczenik's past at Rand is mentioned, along with his habit of referencing the "Bill Hicks is Alex Jones" conspiracy theory.

north korea· rand corporation· bruce bennett· sony pictures· the interview· cia

39:14 I can see that. He seems nervous. Just a couple data points... By the way, before you go on to that we should mention Chelsea Handler's getting grief for coming out and publicly saying that there we should have a military coup to take out Trump! Well there you go it's already happened and look what you're getting? You're getting possible kinetic war with North Korea Which is still about China, but man these guys are crazy. These military guys...these generals Well there was a good write-up in Alternet of all places about the guys who were really behind this North Korea thing This guy named Bennett who worked for the Rand Corporation and he's got the ear of everybody and has never been to North Korea Jeez

40:04 He's been to South Korea like 200 times and he should look him up. I mean, he is the maniac behind our North Korea strategy In fact according to this story, this was a big story just came out this morning Apparently it wasn't Sony Rogan who claims that the CIA was working on that movie with them Yeah And the whole thing was all part of a scheme Propagandize and hopefully get that movie pushed into North Korea. Oh We're Kim Jong-un. That was their sigh up that was there big size Yes, yeah What's the payoff? Well they were revolution this guy's an idiot

40:48 Well, I can ask Pchenik about it because he worked at Rand. So he may know the guy and we'll ask him about it. Was it Rand? Yeah no, he worked at Rand Corporation. Also- I'm trying to think if this guy's been inside of Rand or not. But also something that he said you got to listen carefully because he slipped stuff in and I'm very aware that he's a psychologist and could be psyoping me. Sure! I'm not saying that didn't work. I'm just saying I'm aware of One thing he keeps doing, every single time he talks about Alex Jones. He'll say you know Alex Jones Bill Hicks You know whatever...He keeps throwing in Bill Hicks It's like why does he do that? I mean I know this the theory that Bill Hicks became Alex Jones But it's very interesting that Pichenna keeps doing that and What what about how much effect they think be pretty minimal

CHAPTER 18 / 56 Discussion

North Korean Nuclear Testing, Dennis Rodman Diplomacy

Reports of a North Korean hydrogen bomb test are met with skepticism, with the hosts questioning if the seismic activity was actually a cave-in at a nuclear facility. They discuss the "insane" idea of reuniting the Koreas under U.S. and South Korean rule. Dennis Rodman's unique relationship with North Korea is highlighted, with the suggestion that he may possess more diplomatic insight than professional politicians.

north korea· hydrogen bomb· nuclear test site· dennis rodman· south korea· china

41:38 What minimal amount of plastic surgery would be required? Zero. He's him, zero! He wouldn't need no... he wouldn't need no plastic surgery If you put them side by side I think there are some minor differences Yeah people grow old But more importantly apparently the Chinese military is very restless and There was even some rumor that there might have been some potential coup of the military just in the past week or so. I'm just telling you what i heard yeah no, I said yeah sorry let me see if I had anything else that's the main stuff anyway the idea is you gotta keep Kelly and Military Intelligence wants to keep running him which includes DNI

42:41 You know clapper type people who's the do we have a director of DNI again yet, or is it still open? Nick you keep all remember his name Nick. All right anyway So that's kind of the update from there And again, on this North Korea thing. I am looking for all kinds of details information ball we have is a report that the Koreans North Korean said they pumped off a hydrogen bomb and then we have some US GS data that shows there was seismic activity detected. I mean it's a lot of imagination and theater of the mind and It seems like a pretty big one for those guys, it doesn't seem right and there's also this discussion that apparently they're

43:33 Nuclear testing facility Had some sort of a cave-in and the whole thing may not be usable anymore And it's gonna leak radiation if you heard that report no no yeah, it's another one They're just inundating us with all kinds of weird stuff how much of its true. I don't know I Believe this Bennett story Yeah, but where is the strategy behind all this? What is the idea that I mean, you can't keep saying... The idea that apparently was developed and has been promoted is that we can take out North Korea and reunite the two countries under South Korean and USA rule. That's insane idea! It's the way we think there are a bunch of these guys who think like this. Neocons look at what they think. The whole world would be burned into a crisp if it let things go their way

44:31 Yeah, I don't know. Okay? Although it is good to see Dennis Rodman back on the scene Yes And I think he's this more He's that he's that guy who knows the most remember what uncle Don said Dennis Rodman knows more about North Korea than any diplomat I'm sure he does And you know, it's interesting to read the face bag. They've been to that zoo I want to go too! Well what's interesting change of heart... Facebag is now just one big leftist pool of blah. Ooze. At least that's what the algo is giving me to piss me off I guess

CHAPTER 19 / 56 Discussion

Trump Animal Abuse Protest, Hollywood Walk of Fame

A protest on the Hollywood Walk of Fame accused Donald Trump of being an animal abuser, primarily because he is the first president in 145 years not to have a dog. Man-on-the-street interviews from the event feature a self-described communist who claims communism "worked in America back in the day." The hosts mock the protesters' logic and the shifting definitions of political ideologies among the activists.

donald trump· animal rights· hollywood walk of fame· communism· socialism

45:13 And you know the same people who would say, oh shut up Dennis Robbin. You idiot! You moron now it's well hey we might as well give him a shot What do we have to lose? Yeah I agree yeah what do you get to lose without was the worst that could happen Meanwhile there was some more Trump hate in Los Angeles that i'd like to talk about since We're kind of done with North Korea Did you know Amongst all of the things, the president is. He also is an animal abuser!

45:51 Oh, you didn't know this did you? No. This is news to me. Oh yeah there was a whole well actually the There was a protest it was on the Hollywood Walk of Fame You know that runs around Sunset and Vine a couple other places all over all over and It was bring your dogs were protesting the animal rights abuser Donald Trump now I think this stems from some procedural database of people who abuse animals and the animal rights activists want that. The database was taken offline among some legal privacy concerns, and I don't know if they're washing something or they're going to bring it back

46:33 the animal rights activists came out and said, Donald Trump hates animals. He's abusing animals he doesn't want these people's names to be known I cut out all that stuff because it is not interesting what is interesting is the people on the street who were interviewed man-on-the-street I admit it freely and I even edited the edit but its kind of funny There's no excuse for animal abuse What does your sign say? My sign says life is like a box of deplorable Deplorables you never know who you're gonna get for us Trump. What does that mean? It means that he's deplorable and he's against all Humans and animals, okay Why are you against him because he's an evil dictator what do you think his most evil characteristics are He's a capitalist He's an evil capitalist

47:26 Okay, so you a socialist? I'm a communist. Communist! Okay... Where has communism worked? It's kind of worked in America in the way back in the day Back in the day John you're from back in the day do you remember when communism kinda worked back in the day? Communism Oh, I know what she must be referring to the 60s when there was all these communes. Oh, commune! With a bunch of peace and love lots of free sex. Yes yes that worked yeah okay i mean i could hear she's a stoner You can just tell it by listening to her. Not that I'm a bigot or anything, but she's like, yeah man... I remember back in the day communism worked She's not a stoner. She's an idiot It kind of worked in America in a way back in the day no? He is the first president in 145 years to not have a dog companion I mean I am not saying people who don't like dogs are bad people But I am just saying

48:28 Caring towards animals is a good trait to have in a human. So this president does not have a dog and she had a sign with all the presidents from the past 140 years, and they all had a dog! And he doesn't have a dog so I'm just saying...I think you actually said that. I believe Obama was never a dog guy and he got his dog deep into his presidency didn't he? He didn't come into the presidency with a dog. Mmmmm....I remember it was a big deal When he got the dog, yeah. It's for the children or something but I don't believe him to be a dog guy That was probably protesting Obama they probably pressured him was probably there was I'm sure now that I think about it There must have been some pressure like man The animal rights people they really think it's weird you're the first president in 130 years not to have a dog so maybe get a dog

CHAPTER 20 / 56 Discussion

Speciesism and Animal Rights, Melania Trump Fur Controversy

The concept of "speciesism"—the idea that favoring humans over animals is a form of prejudice—is discussed following its mention by protesters. The hosts look up the term in the dictionary and mock the activists' claims that Melania Trump's wardrobe choice of fur constitutes animal abuse. The segment highlights the extreme rhetoric used by anti-Trump protesters regarding animal and human rights.

speciesism· animal rights· melania trump· fur· dictionary· activism

47:26 Okay, so you a socialist? I'm a communist. Communist! Okay... Where has communism worked? It's kind of worked in America in the way back in the day Back in the day John you're from back in the day do you remember when communism kinda worked back in the day? Communism Oh, I know what she must be referring to the 60s when there was all these communes. Oh, commune! With a bunch of peace and love lots of free sex. Yes yes that worked yeah okay i mean i could hear she's a stoner You can just tell it by listening to her. Not that I'm a bigot or anything, but she's like, yeah man... I remember back in the day communism worked She's not a stoner. She's an idiot It kind of worked in America in a way back in the day no? He is the first president in 145 years to not have a dog companion I mean I am not saying people who don't like dogs are bad people But I am just saying

48:28 Caring towards animals is a good trait to have in a human. So this president does not have a dog and she had a sign with all the presidents from the past 140 years, and they all had a dog! And he doesn't have a dog so I'm just saying...I think you actually said that. I believe Obama was never a dog guy and he got his dog deep into his presidency didn't he? He didn't come into the presidency with a dog. Mmmmm....I remember it was a big deal When he got the dog, yeah. It's for the children or something but I don't believe him to be a dog guy That was probably protesting Obama they probably pressured him was probably there was I'm sure now that I think about it There must have been some pressure like man The animal rights people they really think it's weird you're the first president in 130 years not to have a dog so maybe get a dog

49:22 Caring towards animals is a good trait to have in a human. You know? He hates animals! Human rights are animal rights because humans are animals. If you fight for human rights and you don't fight for animal rights, you're being a speciesist. Speciesists! There we have it... Is that a thing? I can't even spell that. Specie-zist Yeah, I guess species. It's a very ugly word it's ugly to say speciesist so if you s-p-e-c-i-e-s species ist ist ist so speciesist Is that in the in the dictionary? No Are you sure no, I'm not sure but I would be stunned if it was well because it's so stupid

50:16 Let's see, speciesist. Well... Urban Dictionary, Free Dictionary, Speciesism by Merian Webster. Oh well that's close enough! Yeah if you have speciesism then I presume you can be a speciesist? How about a speciest? Can you just shorten it to Spee-shist? Spee-shist. Spee-shist, shi-shi-shist? Love it! Animal rights because humans are animals if you fight for human rights and you don't fight for animal rights You're being a speciesist And that's just back to the matter Who did you vote for I didn't vote his wife wears

50:54 His wife has a closet full of blood and wears it. She wears fur, that's supporting animal abuse! No excuse for animal abuse! Animals love their children! We were protesting against Trump and the fact that you know he abuses animals so Donald Trump, f*** Trump, f**k Trump. Hashtag F*** Trump. We're protesting that he abuses animals! That's right I don't know i've heard a lot but hadn't heard this one No this is good Abuses... well it's just another new thing does kind of fit into my service animals gripe

CHAPTER 21 / 56 Discussion

Service Animal Abuse, Pope Francis on Procreation

The proliferation of service animals in public spaces like airports is criticized as an abuse of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Anecdotes describe service dogs fighting in terminals and defecating on planes. The hosts reference Pope Francis's recent comments encouraging people to raise children instead of pets, noting the negative population growth in European countries like Italy.

service dogs· ada· airport travel· pope francis· population growth· italy

51:40 Yeah, I got what I get. I got the Sir K Mac sent me a funny note He says this is my pet peeve as well. I travel a lot during recent business trips I have witnessed service dogs doing the following fighting in the middle of an airport terminal with another service dog Battle of the service dog People being tripped by leashes because the dog owners are treating Airport terminals like the local park A dog taking a dump on one of the moving walkways, a dog taking a dump on the plane seat and the saddest he said would appear to be a lesbian couple talking to him playing with their service animal while they're real child was told to sit on the ground under their chairs and play with the stickers. Yeah yeah what is that not surprise you stunned me but yeah and I've noticed this dog

52:37 trend for a long time and how problematic it is with younger people, and we need to procreate. And the Pope has now come out and said hey please consider raising kids not cats and dogs This is the Pope! Well good for the Pope Yeah It's true though. He probably seen this in Italy, it exaggerated the problem that for sure With the dogs? No with not raising kids They have a negative population growth Don't we as well? We're not at 2.1 No,no,we don't have a negative population growth Most countries in the European Union do Yes they do Under 2.1 thats a negative growth

53:28 Don't know what the number is, but something like that. I think it's 2.1 in order to procreate Most of them have 1.5 1.7. I think Italy's down dude. I think it's less than one Maybe geez they have less than one kid he's just like an army I got a torso My torso can meet your head All right, what other depressing news do you have for us? Service dogs. I can see this is going to be a pet peeve for awhile. Everybody sends your service dog stories to Adam. It's like him pooping on the walkway that's just great! Well yeah i understand the therapeutic benefits of dogs and horses and yeah that's been proven to be very helpful. A lot of peat doesn't help. Thanks so much for having this service horse at the airport This my service horse

54:23 Maybe hey, why wouldn't you be able to do like a really cool animal like service pig? They're popular. Everyone loves pigs these days like the service you dig people love pigs But just the whole idea that people are so afraid to say hey get your dog out of my way because this service animal and I don't know it's just I need to look at the aide. I'm sure that ADA has a lot of has a paragraph or two on service animals and what is and isn't allowed. I'm gonna look into that. I think people are just abusing this Well, of course they're abusing it! They just want to take their dog which is like their pet- I know rock n' roll guys like serious metalheads who have no children and yet have a Yorkshire And they call it...this...I won't say who it is This particular bass player calls his Yorkshire his Dogter

CHAPTER 22 / 56 Discussion

UK Prime Minister's Questions, Zero-Hours Contracts Debate

During Prime Minister's Questions, Jeremy Corbyn challenges Theresa May over the use of "zero-hours contracts" at McDonald's, where workers went on strike for better pay. These contracts, which do not guarantee minimum working hours, are common in the UK and the EU. The hosts explain that such contracts are often used by employers to bypass strict European labor laws that make firing employees difficult.

theresa may· jeremy corbyn· mcdonald's· zero-hours contracts· uk parliament· labor rights

55:16 My dog- and he'll say it in a sentence. You know, we went to last night went over to the game We took our doctor with us and you don't hear in first like but are you saying dogter? Yeah, doctor. It's disturbing. Yes. Yes I'd say Alright, well on to the next depressing topic. Well these aren't depressing this is this is men's depressing to me It's oh come on it's meant to be fun All right let's go Let's take a let's take a huge break and go to the prime minister question time just see what the hell is going on Very good Prime Minister question time number one I'm presuming

55:57 Yeah, let's listen to what is going on. Mr Speaker every member across this house should be concerned that inflation is once again running ahead of people's pay This week workers at McDonald's restaurants took strike action for the first time in this country The boss of McDonald's, Steve Easterbrook is reported to have earned £11.8 million last year while some of his staff are paid as little as four pounds seventy-five per hour Does the Prime Minister back the McDonalds workers case for an end to zero hours contract and decent pay? Obviously the issue that is taking place in McDonalds is a matter for McDonalds to deal with but

56:44 Let's focus on what the right honourable gentleman has raised about things like zero zero hours contracts. In fact the number of people on zero hours contracts is very small, there are people who genuinely say... That's bullshit! ...who genuinely say as a proportion of the workforce who genuinely say that it is a benefit to them to be on those contracts but for 13 years the Labour Party was in government and did nothing about zero hours contracts It is this Conservative government that has put the workers first and banned exclusive zero-hours contracts.

57:27 This is an interesting topic, this zero hours contract. Christina had one of those in Holland. Oh did she? Yeah it's a European Union model and it's... Well actually they could have them here too let me read from the wiki page on the zero hour contracts so we know. A zero hour contracts are type of contract between employer and worker where the employer is not obliged to provide any minimum working hours while that worker is not obliged to accept any work The employee may sign an agreement to be available for work as and when required so that no particular number of hours or time or work are specified. Depending on the jurisdiction, conditions of employment a ZERO-R contract may differ from casual work they are often used in agriculture hotels in catering education and healthcare sectors they're used to enable

58:16 On-call scheduling. This term is used to refer to on call shift scheduling. Hold on, hold on! Hey this is how it goes... Emergency we need all McDonald workers report to your stations. Report to your stations zero contract hours report to your stations Yeah like that's gonna happen It's a trick. When the term zero hour contract is primarily used in the United Kingdom, which is around 3% of the workforce are on zero-hour contracts... Corbyn says 800,000 people. Casual and part time workers are employed under similar terms in many countries. They really think it's a big deal over there. I mean we don't have that. We've never even heard that term. Allow me to explain.

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European Labor Laws, Corporate Pay Transparency

The difficulty of firing employees in the European Union is discussed, with the hosts noting that companies often need court permission or specific dates to conduct layoffs. The UK government's proposals on corporate governance are examined, specifically the idea of giving shareholders binding votes on executive pay packages to curb "corporate greed."

labor laws· european union· corporate governance· executive pay· shareholders

59:05 There's another part to this. You see, the concept of freelance or just part-time or just working on Saturdays is what we know. In socialist European Union you can't just fire people That's why they, this really is a trick. They give you a contract where the contract is for zero hours therefore they don't have to pay as far as I understand it may be different per country You don't have to pay certain social taxes that the employer that is certainly not for health care and you are effectively an at-will employee And they can fire you by not really firing you This is the trick See if you want to fire someone in the European Union you need to get permission

59:53 You have to explain why, and even if your company is bankrupt you have to show how bankrupt you are. And you need to get permission from the court to fire someone I've been through this several times Yes this is very well known to Americans who try to set up shop over there Yeah yeah And uh think in Germany you can only fire persons one day out of the year on some specific date It's it's we call it The Purge We can purge everybody And so it's just very difficult. So if they give you a zero hours contract, they're not really firing you but they can say well we got no work for you sorry gotten to work for you and then that just kind of goes by the wayside unless they make the mistake of saying we're not giving you any more hours because which is what happened to Christina and then she threatened legal action they paid her off

1:00:44 But that is what the zero hours contract is and it's funny in general because we know the direction of McDonald's as the British always say. I don't know why there's no A, there's no M big M small a they always say MacDonald's you notice that? Well, there's no ice eye and their either Why would be McDonald's okay McDonald's is going towards kiosk. They won't need anybody. Ah, good point! Well let's listen how they finish up this little argument Mr Speaker, my question was about McDonald's and the Chief Executive is paid 1300 times as much as his staff. There are 800 thousand people approximately in Britain on zero hours contracts When she became leader the Prime Minister pledged and I quote, ''I want to make shareholder votes on corporate pay not just advisory but

1:01:46 binding and she put it into her manifesto. That manifesto has now been dumped or archived, whatever way you want to describe it and like so much else in her manifesto where was the tough talk on corporate greed? Was it just for the election campaign or is going to be put... Or is it going to be put into law?! Well, I suggest to the right honourable gentleman that he looks again at the action that in government Conservatives have taken on this issue. It is the Conservative Government who has recently published our proposals on corporate governance it's Conservatives who gave shareholders the power to veto pay policies its Conservatives who forced companies to disclose board directors' pay and its

1:02:34 that introduced tough transparency measures for the banks. That's been done not by a Labour government, it is the Conservative party that has been putting wordless vote. I note she uses the word advisory because page 18 of The Dumped Manifesto says The next... says Mr. Speaker, the next Conservative government will legislate to make executive pay packages subject to strict annual votes by shareholders. Yeah this is another issue in socialist European Union

CHAPTER 24 / 56 Discussion

Public Broadcasting Pay Scales, The Balkanende Rule

The Netherlands' "Balkanende rule," which mandates that no public official or public broadcasting employee can earn more than the Prime Minister, is cited as a model for socialistic pay caps. This has led to "top talent" leaving public stations for commercial broadcasters. The hosts discuss how this experiment in pay transparency and limitation is affecting organizations like the BBC.

bbc· netherlands· balkanende rule· public broadcasting· executive compensation

1:03:11 Yes. And it's really cropping up a lot more, particularly in media and you'll see this with the BBC it's happening It happened with the Dutch public broadcasting system which has a lot of power, employs a lot of people They came up with something called the Balkanende rule Balkanende was the previous prime minister and the rule is no one in any branch of government and the public broadcast organization is obviously government, no one may earn more per year than the Prime Minister of the country. And then they readjusted their pay scale according to that and what you see now is you see top talent leaving for commercial broadcasters like screw that I'm leaving! It's just it's another one of these things That uh... You know?

1:04:06 I don't even know if it's justified really, because the argument is always... It's an interesting experiment and it is socialistic to say the least. And I think you've always thought of the UK as a testing ground for everything. For pretty much everything especially for manhandling the public. This would be this is an interesting idea that the shareholders and why wouldn't the shareholders own the company? Why wouldn't they be able pick the salary. Well, that's how most public companies run you have now I'll tell you exactly how it was run You have a board of directors and on the board of directors there's subcommittees and a committee would be the compensation committee And you get your biggest and bestest friend on the Board of Directors to serve on the compensation committees Yes, and that's how you get the big dough yes

1:04:57 And I think what they're talking about is bypassing the board of directors completely and actually having a vote on the salary. Yeah, exactly that's exactly what they want. Pretty funny! If you want a lot of CEOs to not deal with it these CEOs they travel around they don't care They'll go sit in Malaysia though they'll work for any company They don't mind Meanwhile i learned a new word hunting around the Gitmo Nation GMT This was the GQ awards in Britain MC Stormzy

CHAPTER 25 / 56 Discussion

Brexit Repeal Bill, UK Immigration Proposals

Theresa May faces a parliamentary battle over the "Repeal Bill," intended to sever legal ties with the European Union by 2019. Leaked documents suggest the UK plans to end the free movement of labor immediately after Brexit, limiting low-skilled workers to two-year residencies. The segment also mentions rapper Stormzy calling the Prime Minister a "pagan" at the GQ Awards.

brexit· theresa may· house of commons· immigration· eu withdrawal bill· stormzy

1:05:33 Speaking out about Teresa May with a new word. Yeah, I'm so happy to be here blessed in the room full of talent We've got so much black excellence in this room as well tiny temple my brother Anthony Joshua Skepta flips Coop or demand him So it's so incredible to be here with everyone and big up Jeremy Corbyn I do want to use this to say Teresa may is a pagan and you know what we're doing right now yeah trust me Yeah, it's awkward innit when I say that. Trust. Hey guy, I go and play that again. It's not it's Ali says Teresa makes a pig As well tiny temple my brother Anthony Joshua Skepta flips coop or the man himself is so incredible to be here with everyone Big up Jeremy Corbyn. I do want to use this to say Theresa May as a pagan and you know what we're doing right now Yeah, I can hear a pagan pagan

1:06:43 I like how the, um... a large segment of the Brits just turned TH into D. See here we got bruvva, bruvva, bruhduh is what he's saying. Bruhduh. Yes. I guess that's cool We're losing a lot of these middle keys. The T's are under attack! Yeah, the TH is under-we just removed it from the alphabet who needs the TH? Crazy And other news this is also revolves around Theresa May, as the debate now is starting on the key Brexit bill. The one that will allow the UK to go into full-on negotiations I guess. Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit battle returns to British Parliament She's calling on the House of Commons to support legislation to sever political financial and legal ties with the European Union

1:07:42 On Thursday, the main principles of the so-called repeal bill will be debated. Formerly known as the EU Withdrawal Bill It's central to the government's plan to exit the bloc in 2019. It'll untangle Britain from more than 40 years of EU lawmaking and repeal the treaty that first made Britain a member in 1972. May needs all the support she can get, following criticism from Brussels over her Brexit strategy and after a series of leaks. including details of proposals to halt nearly all immigration from the EU. It'll also be a test for the UK Prime Minister's relationship with the small Northern Irish party. May's Conservatives lost their majority in the House of Commons in a snap election in June and now rely on an alliance

1:08:37 alliance with Northern Ireland's DUP. To defeat her, the opposition Labour party will have to win over some Conservative MPs. The party led by Jeremy Corbyn says it will vote against the bill as it stands, arguing that amounts to a huge power grab from the executive. And my question is why do they talk like this? John, I don't know what they do. Maybe she has to poop at the end of every single sentence She has to go up talking Very strange yes why do by the way have a clip that follows that clip okay?

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EU Law Entanglement, Post-Brexit Legal Challenges

The process of untangling 40 years of EU law from the British system is described as a massive logistical "mess." While the public voted for immigration control, the practical application of new permit systems and the repeal of embedded regulations will keep the government occupied for years. The hosts reflect on the complexity of transitioning from EU membership to full sovereignty.

eu law· brexit· immigration· work permits· legal reform

1:09:17 Which is the leaked UK documents you're talking about in that clip. Yeah, this is uh... This is interesting. The documents were marked as sensitive inside details of the UK's plan to end the free movement of labor immediately after leaving the EU. EU! The measures include a plan to limit the number of low-skilled workers in the country by offering them a maximum residency of two years.

1:09:55 Exactly. Fantastic! The public are very clear they want to see immigration not stopped but brought properly under control being managed downwards and they also want to be clear that we implement what they voted for in the Brexit referendum, that we take back control over the number of people from the European Union who were previously free to come here and then we introduce some control system over that The 82-page draft proposal also includes plans to make it tougher for EU workers in Britain to bring family members to join them. EU officials didn't hold back in their condemnation

1:10:38 I sincerely hope that this is not the Home Office position. I think there would be a very discriminatory treatment of European citizens. Mm-hmm, yeah it's all fear mongering have we seen pages from this report or only reports about it? They show pictures of pages! Hmm okay... Possible Well why is everyone surprised I mean, it's very difficult. It's very difficult if you're as a US citizen, I couldn't just go live in England because at the time was married to an EU national Yes, I got a work permit

1:11:15 Yeah, there's a lot of permitting involved with all this stuff. It was just they did discuss one thing in the PM, the Prime Minister question time that I didn't clip but I should mention regarding the getting out of EU. They do have it was discussed a little bit in that clip you played getting the EU laws out They're so built in and jammed into the British system over all these years since 72. And they have to repeal so many laws probably. There's a bunch of laws in there that they didn't want in the first place, and now it's like how do we get rid of them? Oh I know! Systems are in place, enforcement is in place... It's a mess. This turns out to be a mess. My-I'm thinking now this was a bad idea. What, what the Brexit?!

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BBC Pidgin Service, West African Digital News

The BBC has launched a digital news service in Pidgin English specifically for audiences in West and Central Africa. The hosts read headlines from the site, including stories about Hurricane Irma and a Beyonce-themed course at the University of Copenhagen. They compare the service to "Ebonics" and marvel at the linguistic style used by the British broadcaster.

bbc pidgin· west africa· linguistics· ebonics· university of copenhagen· beyonce

1:12:07 No, it's a great idea. It keeps these people gainfully employed for years. Well it does keep people busy and that is the good news. What I'm thinking bad about this is we had an opportunity because of the Brits being so staunch about these things to make English the universal language because if you had to... It had to be used a lot in the EU. And it's one of the better, easier languages for everybody to learn that this is not the intricacies of language but just the language and simplicity part of it. So that's done although I'll stick with my guns and it's not going to happen anyway when you get to 2019 there's no way they're gonna get out of this thing Have you seen the BBC's Pigden website which I thought was a hoax but seems to

1:12:56 Pidgin? P-I-G, no. P-I-D-G-I-N. Pidgeon. Maybe it's pigeon. Oh pigeon! It's pronounced pigeon like pigeon English Yeah pigeon So they have a version of their news in pidgin Really? I think so Well pidgin is considered actually by some linguists it's actually considered a language Is it a language I don't see it as one. It's a bastardization of English that is spoken mostly, I think in the... Africa. ...certain parts of the Philippines and Micronesia and places like that. Well BBC says they started the Pidgin digital service specifically for West and Central African audiences. So its like Voice Of America. Only its Pidgin English. Yeah! Its pretty funny

1:13:45 I'll bet it is. It's bbc.com slash pigeon let me just read a story uh hurricane Irma seven people don't die the powerful tropical storm done destroy plenty plenty things for Caribbean islands even as people they died Britain don send help to the people nice That's wow. I'm reading straight from the BBC Pidgey. This is great, yeah you can read and no one would consider you a racist! Oh yes we need this let me see You fit study Beyonce for university? I don't even know what that headline means let's see... You go fit study Beyonce as University course The life of Beyonce not cost way one university for Denmark one begin doh

1:14:26 Local TV station say the class done already day full now 75 students register quick-quick for the course EB like say plenty people get interest for this Beyonce gender and race cause so Ted University of Copenhagen Don move students to go lecture hallway get more space Holy crap, I'm in an alien universe. This is fantastic! Professor Eric Skynescoke talks AMGO yourself. I give you something quick-quick. Quick-Quick. Register Quick-Quick for the cause. This is really fascinating. There must be... Well this is the British version of what it was called? Ebonics. Ebonics. Yes exactly. Yeah, ebonics

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BBC Pidgin Viral Stories, Tinder Date Incident

A viral story about a British student's disastrous Tinder date—where a woman got stuck in a window trying to retrieve a discarded turd—is reported by the BBC Pidgin service. The hosts use this as an example of the "low-brow" content being pushed by news algorithms. They conclude the segment by critiquing the BBC's use of ads on their Pidgin platform.

bbc pidgin· tinder· viral news· liam smith· algorithms

1:15:10 Except here. It's racist bonnet or you was a eubonics or ebonics ebonics This is great, this is the find of the day it's really fascinating. It's no BBC comm pigeon PID gin It's fun. It's fun to read may pick up some I don't believe for a minute oh that the people putting that website together aren't the most racist sickos. They did this on purpose as a joke so they should have the British upper class that runs the BBC, the elites just think business in the areas

1:15:50 This is the BBC Pigeon Minute. Oh, UK. Poopoo way trap woman when come play love! Sorry just read a headline UK. Poo-poo weight trap woman when come play love British student Liam Smith meet woman for internet way I'm on one friend but the first walker them together come and with fire service over poo-poo matter Watch how Mr. Smith described waitin' happen when the woman poopoo and toilet begin do stubborn head no grief lush This is the story about the woman who had a Tinder date, I guess? And that she got stuck trying to pick up her turd that she dropped on the floor

1:16:40 It was an internet. He was an international story. Let's listen to the audio version of it shall we let's see They still have ads Oh, I wonder if the ads are in pigeon as you can see No, the ads are not in pigeon that's disappointing You think that they have segmented that audience to sell them to the pigeon advertisers? Yeah money and then why else are they doing it what is the BBC doing with no way also doing it hmm The algo. Yes, the algo is once again the problem for everything. The algos algos following the algos algos following the algo following the algos and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning you johnson

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Value-for-Value Model, Producer Donations and Karma

The hosts explain their "value-for-value" funding model, where listeners (producers) contribute financially to support the show instead of traditional advertising. They read a donation from a producer who requested "gender karma" for his fifth child and another from a "baronet" who called his boss a "douchebag" and requested "jobs karma" after being fired.

value-for-value· crowdfunding· podcasting· donations· jobs karma

1:17:26 USC stands for Can't Follow the Elgos, Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry and In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there Yes in the morning to The Chatroom noagendastream.com in uh...in the morning to NoAgendaSocial.com everybody over there participating as well and in the morning too let me see this was Patrick Bauss A fan favorite of the No Agenda show who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 6-1 titled that show Big Bricks. It was the Latinx balsam, which was appropriate and somewhat funny Well That was a tough one for us this last show Yes it was Uh it had um...it was just like everything was kind you know we could

1:18:22 It was everything was like again B plus maybe but no real a nothing has stood out right well it's kind of like the show where we had a lot of transitional issues mainly because Your brain was boiling just it was too warm. Oh that day yeah, yes That was the day this is our biggest global warming This is our value for value model where? We have The producers you can call them listeners But they're producers of this show produce the show and And that happens in a variety of ways. Art, as an example. Jingles you heard one but also finances and executive producers and associate executive producers just like Hollywood get thanked up front in the show for their massive contribution. Yeah pretty much

1:19:08 That would be the way I see it. So let's thank a few of our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 962, we're getting there We do have our 10th anniversary coming up in about almost a month now Wow yeah that's right Ten years Kevin Strange $800.85 from Norfolk, Great Britain comes in with a note he emailed which I have here so you can read My first donation was show 786 when I requested and received baby girl karma for my fifth child to be a female HR resource after producing four boys. What happened? Does he say, no, I'm not seeing it. I accepted...I completed my knighthood on show 877 in No Agenda Karma. Oh! It became amplified after learning from our NOAA agenda scan this week we have a baby girl due in February next year

1:20:13 Your value for value karma has delivered outstanding results just like your product. Big asks require big donations that's why he gave us $800 and 85 cents The way, the best way I could think to thank you guys for the gender karma, genda karma. Gender karma. He didn't get no gender karma he got genda karma from the best podcast in universe was a big boobs donation of 800.85 boobs with an S on the end. Oh yes! Yes, yes, yes. Boobs

1:20:50 Uh, this donation pushes me into baronet. $249 and he's got some numbers No jingle request but I could certainly use some jobs comrades After my Silicon Valley boss politely recommended that I stop hitting people in the mouth during our GameCom meetings in Germany last week... ...I called him a douchebag! Great. Hey so he's not a knight? He's a baronet?? He's oh this kid cuz I don't know I did on show 877 right, but this is a baronet status And we don't have it on the list. Oh well put it on the list They wouldn't have another list because he doesn't Eric doesn't have this email So would be unlikely for him to imagine that he would be on any list

1:21:36 After my, well anyway he hit his boss or he hit the employees in the mouth and then called his boss a douchebag. That's where we left off. Yeah See I had to stop here and say you know this may not be the best thing in the world No it's...we don't..I don't think we encourage this behavior We do not courage encourage this. I said encourage. I call him a douchebag and asked if he was the thought police makes it even worse thank you Uh-huh, and? The problem is that he can't control my mind or my words and that critical thinkers are exactly what he needed on his team. He seemed to take it in good humor but let's give me some jobs karma just in case. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma That is uh not the way to go I would med them poo poo

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Executive Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony Preparation

Several high-tier donors are recognized as Executive Producers for their significant financial contributions. One donor, Steven Schneider, is preparing for his knighthood ceremony. Another donor, Timothy A, requested specific sound clips including "Boom Shakalaka" and "WTC7 won't go away." The hosts discuss the 1963 birth year and various "de-douching" requests from the audience.

knighthood· executive producers· donations· wtc7· al sharpton

1:22:30 Quick quick, Steven Schneider. Round Lake Illinois 500 bucks and he sent a note in. Quite a note there. Handwritten note. I would like to apologize for my lapse in donations this donation along with the provided accounting should not only help the two of you but finish the layaway on my knighthood Listeners and producers, is he on there? I think so. Schneider? Yes! He's on the list, yep. Listeners and producers alike should cancel their shitty subscription box services... ...and donate the savings to the best podcast in universe Future Nighting of coffee roasting and tobacco pipes

1:23:17 Says he says well and the black letter was easier to read than my usual arcane longhand mm-hmm And happy birthday to Adam. Thank you NJNK Apparently, it's what looks like okay in JNK, and he will be the sole knighting of today's program looking forward to his ceremony Timothy a Another note this one errors I believe is on email Okay, Timmy from Tigard, Oregon. Tigard $400 so he's gonna be our another executive producer today the odometer this is a good story Today today the odometer turned three three three three three dot 3-3 So what choice do I have?

1:24:09 Sending a check from the bank arriving at nine seven for four hundred dollars This is three hundred thirty-three dollars with executive producer credit three three dollars or podcast license $33 for a mothership boarding pass and ten dollars put before the episode 963 so it is 1963 which was a very good year. Yes One year before my birth you were born in 64 yeah 64 It was a very interesting year for Bordeaux. That's for sure, okay I was wondering what you were gonna come up with uh yes the Bordeaux in 64 i remembered well scrumptious does he have any requests? Timmy I'm sorry let me finish reading the note

1:25:02 Uh, listening from the beginning. He's listening from show one he's at the show three 87 and he's going strong. You'll get there. You'll get there. Keep going. Keep going. Clearly require a de-douching. You've been de douched. But I could also pass on some jobs karma to those in need of a new job. And I just Those in need, in honor of the new job he just started. Also if you would please... Okay sorry about this, should have read it earlier. Once a boom shaka laka WTC7 won't go away which I believe is in C. Don't look over here nothing to see here which we haven't played for a long time and resist we much what she played earlier. ITM can't wait for my eventual knighthood

1:26:03 Okay, is that all he has? Should not be a problem. Unless it didn't play. Boom shaka laka! Boom shaka laka! Boom shakalaka and boom shakalaka! WTC7 won't go away! Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Ooh, look at that! But resist we much We must and we will much So how many variations of boom shaka laka from Manning do you have oh I have so many. Oh, yeah Yeah, I got to say get this one It's not manning but I Got that one there's a lot of boom shock alakas

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Global Donor Support, No Agenda Peerage

Donations from international producers in the UK, France, and Portugal are acknowledged. A "Dame" from North Carolina contributes $200 for her 25th birthday and requests "F cancer" karma for her mother. The hosts express pride in the show's nearly 10-year longevity and the community's role in sustaining the production without corporate sponsors.

peerage· donations· international listeners· cancer awareness· podcasting

1:26:58 There's a truth the whole truth and nothing but the stomp down boom shaka laka true Wow, yeah you do a whole show. Yeah the boom shakalaka podcast All right Doug Gwiler Jeff $210 and 33 cents Make sure that's next to the list because he again overfilled the box. Yeah, proof. Proof that there is plenty of room in the PayPal to

1:27:35 Right. Yeah, this is just I didn't mail to anybody Hello it's me hello It's me please reply to my email when you get the chance I register a domain it's okay if you don't use Okay we have to figure out what he's talking about here's hoping except the currency conversion compensation for yen hmm? I have a message for anyone who has never donated by the way the yen no dollars You can do that now. We're not doing yen or rupees No, they're gonna happen It's a reminder, you may not remember this but right now you're supposed to feel very small and unsafe and insecure. Nothing would be better for you than remain in the looped state of low-key terror existential dread when you strike

1:28:15 You're one in every ten showers. The world is overwhelming, it's too much to deal with you need someone smarter and more powerful to take care of you because folks are dumb your week your stupid shut up slave should be larping in the streets on the lookout for the next terror attack you should feel beyond rational thought like a child trapped in a cave the war scariness continues in the meanie entering future and your fear as an ATM card in your tag is this poetry thing what do we got poetry jam here deaf jam We stand before a striking rotten per- pustulent hole in the side of the universe. No agenda is slave armor, it's not perfect! You know you disagree with some of what these folks say." Folks? That that's referring to us? Hey folk. Hey we're folks man. Folks.

1:28:59 Uh, he goes on and says peace of mind... challenge everyone to total up the time you've spent. Whoops! Free from torment thanks to this show watching in relaxed calm as your fellow human resources run around like their hair is on fire multiply that by some factor representative of your material wealth look at this figure realize it isn't your money and do as a wise man once told me donate to no agenda You could probably make that more succinct. Just a tad! We didn't even read close to half of it. Thank you very much Doug Weiland. But thank you for your courage and I appreciate the thought, it's just that if it takes my spreadsheet and it wipes out my entire screen because it is too long... It doesn't help anybody

1:30:00 But, you know it was a good attempt I think. More like it is Dame Catlin Williams in Seven Springs North Carolina $200. By the way we should also mention that one of the reasons we don't read all the notes anymore Is because at some point everybody was writing a note like that for every donation and it was taking a good half hour to an hour To get through the donations segment So we just stopped doing it. Anyway, Dame Katlyn Williams... I think it's Katelyn. Katelyn! It is Katelyn because k-a-y-i is really Katelyn. 200 bucks to ITM Guardians of Reality this will be my first donation since reaching Dame Hood and as an honor of my 25th birthday coming up on September 7 she's on the list as I can tell please give me all the karma you have

1:30:54 for this next year plus another F cancer for her mom. Thank you very much. And we really appreciate this, highly appreciate this. It's what keeps the show going almost 10 years now so this is not some fly-by-night fluke that this is working and very proud of it and all the executive producers associate executive producers all producers should be very proud of it

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Facebook Ad Reach Discrepancies, Bloomberg Analysis

An analyst report from Brian Weiser of Pivotal Research reveals that Facebook claims an "estimated reach" in the U.S. that exceeds the actual population recorded by the U.S. Census by 10 million people. Facebook attributes the discrepancy to tourists and duplicate accounts, but critics argue the company is inflating its numbers to advertisers. The hosts use this as evidence that the traditional digital advertising model is "full of crap."

facebook· advertising· us census· brian weiser· pivotal research· bloomberg

1:31:37 If not for the reason of this clip that I'm gonna play just before we end the donation segment as I've always said that the advertising on the internet is bullcrap. Not so much the advertising but the big promise, the promise of truth and transparency and the right ad for the right person at the right time Hello Moto! Hello Facebook! Analysts report out that Facebook is saying it can reach people who don't exist in fact by 10 million they're inflating these numbers of people that they say exists that this analyst says don't exist. Explain what's happening here?

1:32:14 So, on one hand we're talking about the estimated reach of a Facebook ad. On the other hand we're talking about the numbers that are in the US census so Facebook says it can reach more people than are in the U.S. census. Of course that implies that you know in this...in Facebook which is a place where we have real names and identities, Facebook sells its advertising based on that there might be some fake names, fake identities or duplicate accounts or whatever it might be. What Facebook says in response is that they don't mean to totally match the census in fact in a lot of geographic regions they are often

1:32:53 often visitors or people who are in a place that are not actual residents of that place and the advertisers only pay for the people they reach. So this report, analyst's report is coming from Brian Weiser of Pivotal and I'm curious he saying there is like 10 million dollars, person difference. I mean, is 10... do these other kinds of people that Facebook is talking about can there really be ten million of them? Ten million tourists in America yeah you know- I can't actually stand their voices now I'm hearing it for the second time these are Millennials this Bloomberg Bloomberg reporters they're all screechers and and I'm gonna cut this one off because I have another one which is just as entertaining for a moment but the idea is Facebook is full of crap

1:33:40 They've been over-inflating their numbers. People believe them because they're all the godly Facebook and Their numbers just aren't adding up They sold more reach through their ads than people exist in the country Hello? Yes, seems unlikely Eventually it's going to come to a head. It will, it will. Did you see that thing with Zuckerberg talking to three dreamers or four dreamers? No. Let me close the segment I want to talk about that again thank you everybody! It is for this very reason we enjoy our model so much We don't have to be coming up with bogative numbers and pretending that we know everything no

1:34:26 Instead, all we need to do is look at the numbers and say ah good we can pay rent again. Thank you so much! We have another show coming up on Sunday. So if you see any of those 10 million people that exist according to Facebook, our formula... Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth. Tell me about Zuckerberg and the... He's sitting there talking to these people And I just think-I want to take exception to something right off the bat

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Mark Zuckerberg and the "Dreamers" Propaganda

Mark Zuckerberg's public meeting with "Dreamers" is criticized as a calculated piece of propaganda. The hosts argue that the term "Dreamer" was a brilliant marketing invention designed to make opposition to the DREAM Act seem like an attack on the American Dream. They also mock Zuckerberg's "robotic" and "creepy" physical posture during the meeting, suggesting he appears to be "on the spectrum."

mark zuckerberg· daca· dreamers· american dream· propaganda· autism

1:35:08 Yeah. When you just said, did you see Zuckerberg with this dream? With these dreamers? What an unbelievably fantastic bit of propaganda has been launched into our culture But the dreamers the term dreamer stems from the Dream Act which never passed. Never pass I know And so but now these you can have a lot of terms Yeah, the doctor but everyone consistently calls them dreamers I'm is just susceptible to this I know but I just I just want to explain to people Just so you understand This term was like who needs that act when you have this term out there on the loose because who?

1:35:50 Who would want to steal the dream from the dreamers? I agree. No one wants it because the dream is the American Dream, it's a beautiful dream and It's no one I just can't bring my dynamite dynamite people whoever dreamed whoever dreamed it up dreamed it up Yeah, was absolutely top drawer. Oh and I'm sure somebody is in some advertising agency You know polishing his or her nails right now Yes swooshing their hair mm-hmm What was

1:36:29 It was just a Trump slam and you know these companies I have to say, Google and Facebook all these companies that are subject to antitrust and government screw with you kinds of things. should just shut up. I mean, the idea of slamming Trump every chance you get is just not a good idea. Yeah before he was president yeah you could do whatever go ahead and slam him. He's President! Yeah, you could be critical and say I don't like the way he did that. But no they're not doing that. They're making him out to be a douchebag, he's a creep, he's a red-headed cheeto. Orange Cheeto. Well just to put some things into historical context... Before we do that I wanted to mention one thing about this little meeting. It was Zuckerberg himself

1:37:26 He is sitting in a chair, in this awkward position where he's not in the chair. And he's not at the edge of the chair. He's kind of halfway up to chair with his back straight as an arrow really back it super straight as though he's in some sort of a class where they're teaching him how to sit and you might have a book on his head. Both of his palms hands are on his legs So his fingertips are kind of maybe touching his knees and that looks idiotic. He sits in there like that, boom! And then he's got a tight-fitting t-shirt on as if he has been apparently working out a lot so he has this tight fitting t-shirts hands around his legs stupidly and is sitting up straight as an arrow and is unmoving and talking

1:38:13 I would say this guy is annoying. I can't imagine he thinks he's going to run for president, it's just annoying to watch! No offense Mark. All offense we're talking about... He's like one of these guys as a guy who has been writing about technology. He's the guy i never wanted to meet. I had zero interest in ever meeting Mark Zuckerberg because he just doesn't seem like he's all there It's like a robot or something. He is on the spectrum, I'm pretty sure he is autistic. Well he definitely on the spectrum but even Gates who is on the spectrum and supposedly has Asperger's and I believe you might, at least seems pretty normal from all... he doesn't sit weird upright lockstep and robot-like it's...I don't know I find him creepy to be honest about it

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DACA Executive Order, Trump's Referral to Congress

The history of DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) is explained as an executive order issued by President Obama because Congress failed to pass the DREAM Act. President Trump's decision to phase out the program is framed as a move to force Congress to fulfill its constitutional role in making immigration law. The hosts question the accuracy of the "800,000" figure often cited for DACA recipients.

daca· donald trump· barack obama· executive order· congress· immigration law

1:39:05 For historical perspective, there's a lot of listeners and producers of the show who do not reside in the United States and probably don't really follow a lot of these things. Just to explain what DACA is, it's a Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Very specific if you arrive before your 16th birthday yet after I think it's 1981? I believe or yeah 81 or 87 one of the two Then Through no fault of your own You have to point that out through no fault of their own This is-I'm so tired of this

1:39:46 Let's just be talking around. So let's just talk about DACA these children who by no fault of their own By no fault of their own there are so many memes in this thing Were brought into the country illegally with their parents, I guess who were here illegally as well. And they received deferred action which means the action against you for entering the country illegally is deferred for two years and with that depending on the state that you're in a municipality there's a lot of different programs and you could get into school and many other things and you've got a driver's license and before all intents and purposes your almost equal to a green card

1:40:24 And this program, which was an executive order not law written by Congress where our laws are made was an executive order. Which the president has every right to do they can say oh it's not constitutional well... It's an executive order and the whole point is you're out now we just gonna turn that off but it did have a sunset had an expiration in the expiration of these two years in the expiration date for this executive order was also coming up instead of Trump I guess he'll save his executive orders for other things. He said, no this should be a law and this is the only reason President Obama put this in place is Congress couldn't get the law passed for The Dreamers, The DREAM Act and I think President Trump rightly said yeah this is nice I'm not gonna deal with that This is for Congress And he did give them an extra six months and it seems like...I think It's a pretty smart move because

1:41:22 You know, you're very clear. You're saying Congress it's your job. You need to make the rules and if you can't come together and fix this shame on you And then all these poor children are on you There's a lot of problems that I have with this. I keep hearing the number 800 000 and they are all Ivy Leaguers They all, the visions that are conjured up is they're entrepreneurs businesses. They're the best in Silicon Valley. I know it may all be true but i see zero data It may not all be true there's no chance and I went looking There is no data The 800 000 number Is it eight hundred thousand exactly? Why can't you just give me the actual number Do we have this? I'm afraid we don't have the information We really don't know

1:42:11 We really don't know. And just the data that's being thrown out there is, oh man it's troublesome! Very very troublesome. It's interesting that 800 thousand is the same number thrown out for zero hour contracts? Yeah I heard that. Now...I was watching one of these reports, I don't have a clip but some guy who's president at the University of Maryland and this guy has just this useless character he He's beside himself because they have a couple of these people in the university and he doesn't know what is going to happen to the future of this school. Okay, this is very interesting and I broke the rule since you broke it last show. I had too. You didn't have to do anything! Yeah, I did. The whole idea behind supporters of DACA

CHAPTER 35 / 56 Discussion

Tucker Carlson vs. Reason Magazine, Open Borders Debate

In a heated interview, Katherine Mangu-Ward, editor-in-chief of Reason magazine, tells Tucker Carlson that the U.S. has no moral obligation to prioritize citizens over immigrants. She advocates for a "billion Americans," arguing that a massive population increase would make the country an "unstoppable" economic power. The hosts label her a "globalist" and criticize her perspective as detached from the reality of poverty in high-population countries like India.

tucker carlson· katherine mangu-ward· reason magazine· libertarianism· immigration· globalism

1:43:07 And I hope, so I haven't read the Dream Act recently. I will read it again for Sunday so I can know exactly what's in it It may not be that different from From what DACA did The issue is that a lot of Republicans are afraid to vote yes because they'll be seen as A-holes by their constituents At least that's what they're afraid of Shit was I saying? I'm not gonna tell you I had a really good track there. Go ahead then you what that was talking about something? I'll tell ya you were gonna break the rules. I'm about probably at Tucker Carl yes, of course it is

1:43:54 What the proponents of DACA feel, truly feel is more people in our country is better for our country. This is the bottom line and yeah children it's all being... this really child abuse because you're arguing over children It's like parents..it's very disgusting I really find it disgusting We all want to help children now there are many ways if we actually know who the DACA children are I have doubts that we can even find them but I don't know what the hell is real or not anymore I just can't see the info But the underlying thought is, the more people in America the better we will be. Regardless of who it is where they come from what their status is We just need more people as his evidence and I normally wouldn't bring this clip but I had to bring this and I've edited this down significantly from Tucker Carlson yesterday And he has on amongst some other guy but he has the editor-in-chief of Reason

1:44:50 Oh yeah, I saw this. Yeah, Catherine Mangle but there's one little bit in there which is just near the second half of this clip which really got me Do we have an obligation to put the interests of American citizens ahead of the interests of immigrants? No, i don't think so! I just love that...that was the beginning of the interview That right there is a fundamental thing Should we put the interests of Americans above those or of illegal aliens, above those citizens? And right away no I don't think so. Do we have... No the other way around

1:45:28 Well, no. this are going to add to our economy, add to our culture and make America better place. But if you could determine in this specific case if there's one job and it-you know, you got a choice between someone who came here illegally and someone who is American citizen, you wouldn't automatically go for the American citizen? Well I mean, I think you could ask similarly do I favor protectionist policies right? Do I think that a job could be here or a job can be in China?

1:46:25 Morally better for the job to be here. I think the answer is no in that case That's also it says morally here for the job to be in America or in China and she says no It could be could be in China makes no difference She's a globalist in case you hadn't caught on but here comes there's no in that case, too What's an appropriate level of immigration into this country? Like how many people should we let in by the way This is a question that I don't like I'm not even sure why i don't like it but its a real right wing talking point. Well how many people are in? How many should be let in? It may be an valid question, but he's clearly reciting a talking point here. Well how many should we let in? Her answer is even better! There was no one that case too What's the appropriate level of immigration into this country? Like how many people should we let in

1:47:13 I think, you know... call me crazy but i believe in the American ideal that we are a place for people who are downtrodden abused can come. So everybody wants to come? What's the limit? We have systems in place systems that are broken an asylum system for example we need to focus on fixing those things so we can determine who needs to come How many should we let in? It is not hard question. More than we let right now? Like how many? I don't know! We could get to a billion people by the end of this century really easily Dude if we had a billion people in America America would be unstoppable. It's kind of hard to hear it there in the background, but she literally said if we had a billion people in America we would be unstoppable! I just don't see that as being smart. A billion people in America would be unstoppable? What does that even mean, unstoppable? She believes that our economic power would be so unstoppable if we had a billion people living here

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Taylor Swift "Aryan Goddess" Narrative, Fan Interaction

The media's attempt to link Taylor Swift to "alt-right" or "Aryan" imagery is discussed. A recent incident where Swift was booed at a friend's wedding for using blankets to hide from paparazzi is analyzed; the hosts suggest the media misrepresented the reason for the booing to fit a "douchebag" narrative.

taylor swift· alt-right· media narrative· wedding· fans

1:51:21 Yeah, you watch we can we can pick him out. We can pick up more Tom Cruise He has a movie coming out I think to the new movie coming out yeah, yeah always says a new movie Let's see if he does some interviews and yes, dude. He's popular while white let's see what he does Oh, he's gonna toys totally detours the line is all in yeah. Yeah, yeah did it TayTay got booed Yes, well that was over a week ago. I think it had a clip and never played it Oh really? Was that a week ago? Yeah She got booed at some of them They say she got booed where's the... they reported it but I didn't hear anybody I didn't get to see any videos I have it First of all if she is anywhere you know everyone has their phone out This video Here she comes out of the back of the church What

1:52:16 Well here it comes. Now they're pissed off, they're pissed off because she was at a friend's wedding and came out the back and they held up blankets so she could walk to the car without being seen That's what they were booing her for yeah, they were booing her for not showing herself and she released another song She's like trying to get out of this really bad now. Oh I'm sorry she didn't watch what am I saying? She dropped a new song she dropped dropped And it's back to the poppy Taylor Swift alt-right white stuff White Witch Whitewalker, I'm working on all these names that I can call her White Witch Aryan goddess yes

1:53:01 So I'm keeping an eye on that for you. Yeah, we're keeping an eye on it and obviously not doing a good job Well nothing's happened It's all hurricane, it's all hurricane all the time But now tell ya this Now that I heard that clip And the fact she was booed Probably for not greeting her fans Rightfully so That was never reported that way Oh interesting You need to find the report where she was booed then We can compare She is booed for being a douchebag Is how it was reported Okay well Depends on how you want to look at that all right? Let's take a look at your suits before we completely leave Europe because we're kind of bouncing around it I do want to replay this clip

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Fashion Industry Skinny Model Ban, LVMH and Kering

Major fashion houses including Gucci and Christian Dior have signed a charter banning the hiring of ultra-thin models and those under age 16. The hosts dismiss this as "pandering" and "bullcrap," noting that similar bans have been announced for decades without significant change in the industry. They suggest the move is a PR stunt timed for Fashion Week.

gucci· christian dior· lvmh· kering· skinny models· fashion week

1:53:40 I do have some tech news too. This is the clip Skinny Models and named it Skinny Model, how many? I named it this Skinny Models Banned Again How often are skinny models often or skinny models banned they seem to be banned all the time but they're still working They still crop up those waves Two of the world's biggest fashion houses representing brands such as Gucci and Christian Dior have signed a charter that bans the hiring of models who are too thin and who are under the age of 16. The move follows a barrage of criticism that the industry encourages eating disorders. Now, how many times have you heard I think when i was in high school

1:54:27 I've been hearing about these skinny models and how they have to bend them because they're not eating enough food or they're strung out on heroin. It's been going for quite a while And they keep doing this. I think this is bogus, they don't ban anybody and what does a 15 year old... Okay so you got this fifteen-year-old who's not gonna abandon them to these poor fifteen year old girls So we've got a fifteen year old she's I don't know five eleven beauty but she's fifteen and but and she walks the runway she kicks butt You're not going to hire her? I think they do. And irk her so she'll never work for you again because you won't hire her? It's just pandering, John. It's just pandering. The whole thing is bullcrap! Yeah but they... well it's pandering to everyone on all bases but you're right this crops up and you kind of don't think about it anymore and then fashion week comes and fashion week goes oh there they are again and their right back yeah There's not that many people who can do that job. It's the dream job

1:55:33 for dreamers. It's the dream job for dreamers you get to smoke cigarettes drink coffee yeah couple lines of coke just throwing out on heroin nah I think they do coke more to stay thin not heroin at least that's what they did back in the day well i think the smoking is up there living the life yeah living the life it's living the life that's right baby, I'm in show business if you don't get MK Ultra down What is it the Lolita Express Island or whatever? Yeah, whatever. Mm-hmm Okay, so let's turn to the German debates yeah This is fantastic Angela Merkel seems to be in trouble not that I way I see it okay Especially after the debate they had these debates only gonna have one debate with her and what's his name? Yeah that guy the guy running against her

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German Election Debate, Angela Merkel vs. Martin Schulz

The televised debate between Chancellor Angela Merkel and her challenger Martin Schulz is described by German media as a "duet" rather than a duel due to the lack of conflict. Critics argue the debate ignored the most pressing issue for voters: migration. Despite some public dissatisfaction, Merkel is expected to win the upcoming national election easily.

angela merkel· martin schulz· cdu· spd· germany· televised debate

1:56:25 The EU guy. The other guy, I'll look it up forget his name. So here now well he's in the report so here is the report and first of all this is the Deutsche Welle and Deutsche Welle is just they hate Trump And that's our operation where our friend, non-friend Helena Humphrey. Before you go any further did you see the magazine covers last week in Germany? Oh the Trump anti-Trump covers yeah one with Trump as Hitler and one with a Trump with a KK with a hood over his head I mean pretty amazing oh yeah especially for Germans to show him is Hitler they should know better or maybe they do

1:57:06 Mmm, if the Germans say it. They hate the whole situation they hate us Well the Germans also hate Angela Well here we go German debates won It has been a year since the US presidential debates between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton The personal attacks in what many called the depths of verbal depravity still shock us even one year later Well, today the US president in one of his tweets proved that there is a lot of adult behavior that is still missing in action. Today Trump retweeted this image of the cover of Hillary Clinton's new book about her campaign now The book is entitled What Happened? Next to it a cover with Trump's face and the title I happened

1:57:57 Now this all seems even more sophomoric when you compare and contrast with the campaigns ahead of Germany's national election taking place later this month. If you saw last night's televised debate between the Chancellor candidates Angela Merkel and Martin Schulz, and then think about Trump and Clinton on stage last summer... What we have here ladies and gentlemen is The Great Debate Divide More on that in just a moment. But first, look at that debate last night the TV duel that turned into more of a TV duet Wow! That was just the intro? Yes and by the way this guy is one reporter who hates Trump He's he's the one who coined this duet thing And so it brings... This went for long time I only have these two short clips but

1:58:46 He keeps bringing this, well you know I called it a duet. Hoping they get them to say yeah that was great, fantastic and no nobody would go oh whatever so he keeps saying you know what? I still think it should be called the duet Why? He keeps making a scene about this duet phrase that he came up with, or phrase or word. And it's embarrassing but he brings some people on and they all agree that it was the dud of a debate they never did anything in this second clip includes some of the third and fourth parties bitching about this lousy debate which got no points for Schultz.

1:59:43 Otherwise, there was a harmonious mood in the only TV debate between Merkel and Schulz. The press called it a clear nil-nil outcome giving Merkel a slight advantage. The smaller parties were disappointed saying that the debate was more cozy than cutthroat. I got that feeling at least during the first hour That at any moment we can expect the two of them to fall into each other's arms with tears in their eyes saying, I didn't mean it that way. Don't be angry at me." At this debate the big loser was the future of our country because they focused on backward looking policies. Only three more weeks left then Schulz and Merkel will face the final battle when the voters decide

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Facebook Russian Ad Buy, Rachel Maddow Coverage

Rachel Maddow's 40-minute segment on Facebook selling $100,000 in ads to Russian entities is critiqued as "delusional" and hyperbolic. The ads in question reportedly focused on divisive social issues like LGBT rights and immigration rather than specific candidates. The hosts argue that $100,000 is an insignificant amount in a presidential election and mock the idea that 3,000 ads could "throw" the results.

rachel maddow· facebook· russia· election interference· advertising· algorithms

2:05:08 I don't know. Maybe, I have no idea. Ed Koch was the childless mayor of New York but he was gay. Yeah well so is the prime minister of Holland Well maybe Merkel is too. Maybe they're all gay. They just don't want to admit it Could be Macron looks a little gay Don't you think? John You may be surprised but there's a lot of gay people Just say...you just made me somewhat surprised Well, they're giving us wrong numbers then. So we were back to trying desperately although it's gonna be a little weird the next few days The media is trying desperately to get back on track with the With the Russia Russia collusion stuff and I mean, I'm not even clipping it anymore There's so much I really should but there's so much dumb just insanity like somehow if Trump

2:06:09 told his son to write the letter differently, the letter that was about the meeting that was about the... No it's insane. It's dying! It's a dying topic Well Rachel Maddow last night and I did not bring Rachel clips You have to really watch that in context and just see the whole thing And how smug Crazy, I mean it's delusional and not crazy delusional. She is when it comes to this latest which is Apparently and it's bad for Facebook apparently Facebook had been asked many times many many times poopoo many times quite quick quick

2:06:51 if they had sold any ad inventory to Russian entities during the election cycle. And the way Matt went on for 40 minutes last night, no! They said no don't have it there's nothing and then now Facebag comes out and says well yeah we did find something And she had a whole expose last night, and I'll tell you how she sees it tying in. About this one particular story...I have the numbers here again it's from Bloomberg from the two Millennials but at least you get a little more data than she was handing out. ...has been looking into what it calls information campaigns which are... Just listen because they are so stupid! They really believe that this works and that this amount of propaganda works

2:07:42 has been looking into what it calls information campaigns, which are they sort of have this malicious fake element to them where there are a lot of fake accounts, a lot of fake pages and they try to spread propaganda in one way or the other. They had our report come out earlier this year that detailed that and linked it sort of vaguely to Russia. This now comes out and says money is involved. And while $100,000 might not sound like a lot of money, it can buy a lot in Facebook advertising. This is more than 3,000 ads that were purchased that were targeted in some cases to certain geographic regions which we know was very important ahead of an election while most of the ads didn't name a candidate or talk specifically about voting they did talk about very divisive issues in the US like LGBT rights

2:08:36 and gun rights, and race relations. And immigration so they were trying to spark or whoever was behind this effort whether it was the government or some other Russian actor was trying to spark some divisiveness in America ahead of election now I know that their share information with US regulators but is there any idea just who in Russia was behind the ads I mean whether they have ties to the actual Russian government Facebook is not saying whether they have ties for the government of course we are looking into it everyone is looking into it there are several

2:09:13 intelligence committee ongoing investigations into this. So I think that Facebook is cooperating, they're trying to provide information where they can but the main thing they're trying to do is prevent this from happening in the future. They are looking at patterns matching it to their machine learning algorithms and trying to stop us from being a problem in future elections around the world. Okay so many things to unpack here 1. I hate the way they talk 2. Bloomberg! This is Bloomberg business news, Bloomberg Michael Bloomberg should get his act together

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Advertising Mechanics, Propaganda vs. Influence

The technical aspects of the Russian Facebook ad buy are analyzed, with the hosts questioning the reported numbers of "3,000 ads." They point out the irony of Facebook promising to fix its algorithms so ads don't "influence" people, noting that the entire purpose of advertising is influence. They conclude that "political propaganda" is a standard practice used by all sides.

cpm· impressions· facebook ads· propaganda· election meddling

2:09:55 This is not a- you can't take this serious anymore. The lack of depth of reporting, but this is what Rachel Maddow had So they found that a Russian entity we still don't know who had bought $100,000 worth of ads We still don't know exactly what the ads were But these ads clearly influence your election Show us the ads All three- Show us the ads Well here's the third thing The claim is A 100 thousand dollar ad buy for 3 thousand ads to 3000 people Are you kidding me? What is their CPM over there that's what is it $300 no three thirty dollars 30 no 30 I should have done this when it came out okay 3,000 ads at ten dollars would be the 3000 hundred dollars would be so to hundred would be a You're right the first time. I think was 300 dollars times 30 thousand should be 10,000

2:10:56 $400,000 it was 3,000 ads. We're horrible We always do this we oh you know if we had a calculator the computer has when we could just type it in Okay, I'm gonna do it that way really we have one of those. I think it's a billion. I think it's 30 It's 33 dollars. It's even better than that No, okay. It was $100 you're talking about per thousand Are you talking about the by per at what it costs per ad now so that it was 3,000 people right no ads Oh 3000

2:11:34 3,000 ads. Yeah you're right, you're right, but that doesn't make any sense they sell it by impressions They don't sell it by I showed it You get no money for showing the ad someone has to see it so what is the three thousand? Was it three thousand separate creative ads for $100,000 What are gonna do with 100,000 dollars throw an election It's vague. This is very poorly reported and the way I know what how these ads were presented whereas the 3,000 people 3000 as three thousands impression 3000 click-throughs was it Was it what were the ad specifically where they clicked through ads or their display ads? Where they banner ads What kind of ads were there Rachel Maddow that there's nothing we don't know anything exactly mark Rachel Maddow spent 40 minutes and her conclusion Is that this is this helped throw the election in

2:12:27 that this type of behavior, the $100,000 ad buy because that's all you need apparently. If you're in a presidential election for $100,000 then if you think that is even possible then your nuts! Well thats Rachel and in addition to that it's illegal she says its illegal to have foreign money used in running ads on Facebook? How does that work as an international company? It would be International money coming in meddling in the election, which I don't think is that...I think you can't send money to a campaign but if you just want to place an ad. Is there a problem with that? Nope! Anyway at the end did she say machine algorithm or just algorithm? She said learning algorithm I think. Yeah machine learning algorithm. Something like that

2:13:24 But you know, obviously yes we have to take a look at this so this doesn't happen in the future. It's called political propaganda everybody does it! Everybody was buying Facebook ads. Zuckerberg has a problem he's going... Yes, that chair he's sitting on with his two hands on his legs and Rachel stand up and tell people hey We're in it. We are in advertising where can we take advertising? People gave us money to run their ads the ads were legal we ran them No He said now we're working on our algorithms You know we got to make sure that this doesn't happen in the future so we don't have anything bad anything might influence people And that is that's all the influence people That's what ads are for

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Etymology of "Nitty-Gritty", Ham Radio Donors

A brief discussion on the etymology of the phrase "nitty-gritty" suggests it may have originated as a derogatory term in the American South. The hosts also acknowledge several "Ham" radio operators who contributed to the show, using their call signs and discussing "boob" donations (amounts ending in .85 or .80).

nitty-gritty· etymology· ham radio· slang· linguistics

2:14:06 Can you see the conundrum? We don't want our advertisements influencing people. We don't want them to work! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda, imagine all the people who could deal with us. Oh yeah that'd be fab. On No Agenda morning... Okay uh we have a bunch of people to thank and i'm going to start with Baronet Sir Nicholas Princep I'm gonna put my glasses down somewhere and I gotta find them. Of course, I can't find them. Hold the note a mile away to read it. Where did the glasses go? It doesn't make any sense! My daughter gives me crap about this by the way. You know what you need?! You're always losing stuff! A chain around your neck... Yeah but what about for the glasses??

2:15:08 Here's $133.53 or is it 53? Yeah, he's from Fuquay, Verena North Carolina Where is Fuquay Verena I don't know Here's a check with the note my crappy handwriting Sally still stuck at baronet hoping for real Barren Hood by the end of the years Sorry donations are down. I blame the M5M boom anyway 73 W4 NAP 73 is kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie Rui, Rui, Rui Segaldo in Guamares Portugal. $123 and 43 cents... 45 cents John Gardner in Haleswind, I think Great Britain's 99.99 is interesting after being hit in the mouth about a year ago by my son Richard. I'm afraid that this is only my second donation but could have a formal de-douching this time

2:16:10 Absolutely. He also, oh yeah he did this phrase from the Shays tit for tat where the cockney rhyming slang for a hat comes from. I had one i had a phrase from the shays i had uh what was it nitty gritty? Oh yes nitty gritty we're going to talk about nitty gritty We are? It's a black term i think No it was slang in the south for negro

2:17:03 Oh. That's how it started, according to the Wiktionary. Yeah you take the N and the GR nitty-gritty. Never heard that one Greg Dial 9999 Laurent Bureau in Vitale France Vitale where they have their good tasting waters always thanks for the excellent work Patrick Comer, $75. Jeffrey Kelly in Arnold Maryland, $60 and 8 cents which is a lopsided boob donation It's the boobs in the dark Yikes Is that what he said? Yes That's really bad And he's a ham Of course KB3YSL Yeah it's kilo 5 alpha 7 Charlie A YSL

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Congressional Staff Listeners, Military Support for No Agenda

The hosts acknowledge a growing number of listeners among Congressional staff and military personnel. They suggest that these groups appreciate the show's willingness to call out "pencil-pushing non-combat generals" and provide insights not found in mainstream media. Donors from Washington D.C. and various military branches are thanked for their support.

congress· military· pentagon· washington dc· podcast audience

2:17:57 Timothy Cato in Waipahu somewhere. 5510, double-niggles on the dime. Scott Fuller, $55 from Cumming, Georgia. Sir Chris of the Low Earth Orbit in Houston Texas. Hurricane Harvey didn't flood my house so I'm performing my nightly duty to assist those whose houses were flooded." Very good. So good for you. And that was 53-53 which is a double birthday. Hello, Miles Comer in Walnut California 53-53 also it's these are the belated happy birthdays to Adam so we will be happy to read these off one by one We have

2:18:45 Ty Robinson in Queen Creek, Arizona another 5353 and then Craig Denniston in Omaha Nebraska 53 35 which is a variation. And now these are just $53 donations I'll read them one at a time name and location if possible Sir Tyler Fox in Cedar Park Texas William O'Donovan John Prebys in Washington DC Washingtonian DC, Washington DC. Miles Johnson we have a lot of people that are in on congressional staffs yes I've noticed that are we a thing?

2:19:24 I think one of those secrets that people whisper about. My God, have you heard? I think it's one of those things that some people listen to because they know they can get maybe some info, some insight they wouldn't normally get from the hill as they call it but... And I think they pass this around but I don't think anyone's... Hey! Listen to these guys! We're passed around like cheap whores Yeah we're passed around like cheap whores Miles Johnson In the linoleum clad hallways of Congress Kaylin this store sir Pat Deary in Sarnia Ontario Canada DC Timothy of the no fix title My favorite a DC girl DC girl in the chat room just says I'm in DC learned about their show while working in the Navy

2:20:09 That makes military and stuff. I know but we got a lot of military yeah, sir Timothy the no-fig style even though We're you know we don't know what they must think because we're not like gung-ho military types But we appreciate what's going on here? We are I don't think we'd like the military takeover of the president's No, but here's the thing. Just report it! No no here's the thing The military likes us because we call out the stupidity of these pencil-pushing non combat generals Ah yes. The military actually... But how can they not like us? Yes, the military is actually in the field and we're at war everywhere We're in Africa or Somalia where if I everywhere And people are like why am I here? I don't know

2:20:57 There's a reason. Anyway, Black Knight Sir Mark Magpio $53 Adriana Oporto which is also town in Portugal sir Brad Doherty and I don't know what his Ventura City New Jersey Venter city go bitch like we have a lot of people left over here Arthur Gobbits are Zondam guy He's a sir isn't he yes? Sir Zondam guy, I think he's the sir zondom guy which means damn made of sand No Eric no it doesn't what does it mean oh

2:21:39 Well, it's a dam but Zandam is just the place where the dam was. I don't think... It would be Zonddam. That's not... Eric Grunewald. Grunewald in... He's in Nazair or South Africa depending on what Z-A is. It's a river. The Zaan is a river so I should have known Design so it's the dam of the river damn. Yes, the Zan River Dam That's what we're calling it from now on James Susan of their Willamette Valley 53 and Sir Jad Biderman, the Baron of Guam who by the way always sends a note in his letterhead actually says Baron of Guam. Beautiful! Does he have the little sticker on the back of his envelope?

2:22:30 No, he's I have it right here. It said no just says sir This is letterhead right across the top of says sir Chad biterman Baron of Guam then has his address and there's a little map of Guam Next to him and then it looks very official. Oh well. He's official what are you talking about? Well? He is the Baron of Guam so why wouldn't he have a letterhead ever recommend everyone get their letterhead oh Michael Gates, that was the end of our well-wishers. There weren't as many as last time but there shouldn't be because it's not your birthday anymore but happy birthday! Michael Gates 5280 valued cardholder in Queensland Australia 5224 I remember this guy yeah he also I don't know if he is on the list but he is wishing his son Jake Kenyon a happy 21st yes he's on the list

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AARP Membership, Senior Discounts and "Old White Men"

Adam Curry discusses receiving his AARP membership invitation in the mail, jokingly embracing his status as an "old white man." The hosts discuss the practical benefits of the card, such as discounts at Denny's and on rental cars. They compare using an expired or unverified membership card to flashing a "KLM Gold Card" to get perks.

aarp· senior discounts· aging· denny's· klm gold card

2:21:39 Well, it's a dam but Zandam is just the place where the dam was. I don't think... It would be Zonddam. That's not... Eric Grunewald. Grunewald in... He's in Nazair or South Africa depending on what Z-A is. It's a river. The Zaan is a river so I should have known Design so it's the dam of the river damn. Yes, the Zan River Dam That's what we're calling it from now on James Susan of their Willamette Valley 53 and Sir Jad Biderman, the Baron of Guam who by the way always sends a note in his letterhead actually says Baron of Guam. Beautiful! Does he have the little sticker on the back of his envelope?

2:22:30 No, he's I have it right here. It said no just says sir This is letterhead right across the top of says sir Chad biterman Baron of Guam then has his address and there's a little map of Guam Next to him and then it looks very official. Oh well. He's official what are you talking about? Well? He is the Baron of Guam so why wouldn't he have a letterhead ever recommend everyone get their letterhead oh Michael Gates, that was the end of our well-wishers. There weren't as many as last time but there shouldn't be because it's not your birthday anymore but happy birthday! Michael Gates 5280 valued cardholder in Queensland Australia 5224 I remember this guy yeah he also I don't know if he is on the list but he is wishing his son Jake Kenyon a happy 21st yes he's on the list

2:23:21 valued cardholder. This is like occupant, another one. Yeah hello dear resident. Sean Rigaldo in Sarnac Lake New York these are $50 donors I'm gonna give you the name and location if it's possible Derek Bretts $50 Jonathan Meyer Xenia Ohio Caleb Kniffin in Grain Valley Missouri Robert Bruckner in Gilbert Arizona David Schlesinger in Rosemont, Illinois. Gene Ablin in Sonora California Edward I think is a Sir Mazurik and Memphis Tennessee another Tennessean lots of them Tim Able and Bergfeld Berkshire UK Brown Beard in California

2:24:16 He is a, he's got a long note about being punched in the mouth and which is good. Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois. Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina and last but not least Jason Deluzio in Chatsford Pennsylvania I want to thank all these folks good list for thanking you for wishing Adam a happy birthday and helping support the show 9632 yeah Thank You there's the birthday congratulations still going on really appreciate it I got my AARP Congratulatory note in the mail. Yeah, I saw this I saw that you tweeted it in a rage in a rage yeah like happy birthday You old white man What is there any good deals with the AARP? You can get some discounts on rented cars Yeah and some other things they die think to triple-a as your best bet for getting deals are usually are you remember Costco

2:25:19 Here's what I did. You know, you see those two cards that you show? That one card is a real card It's the hardest card with that just put that in your wallet And then if there you see any discounts for AARP pull the card out and show it to him Oh, I threw it out crap because you can just flash it right yeah, why would they're not gonna be oh, I'm an a-hole I've been doing that since 2011 with my KLM gold card Yeah, I just put my thing. I put my finger over the 2011 thing just flash it like yeah Hey, I'm good to go. I can go through this line Because a card that they send out is there's like a real card is not Okay, I'm gonna go get that cuz I can get cheap food at Denny's

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CHAPTER 46 / 56 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Stephen of Coffee and Tobacco

Stephen Schneider is officially knighted as "Sir Stephen of the coffee roasting and tobacco pipes" for his $1,000 aggregate contribution to the show. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, granting him a seat at the No Agenda Round Table. Other peerage elevations, including a new Baronet, are also announced.

knighthood· no agenda· stephen schneider· peerage· ceremony

2:26:50 Very short list today. Dame Caitlin Williams celebrating today we congratulate her on her 25th birthday and valued cold-hearted says happy birthday to his son Jake Kenyon he turns 24 tomorrow Happy Birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe Is there something you wanted to say? No I just said brown beard one of Jobs karma wouldn't make shriek That's right, time for the title changes. The way it works is you become a knight or a dame of the Noah Jenner Roundtable if you support the program in aggregate in the amount of $1,000 or more and that can be over any amount of time. The same goes for our different peerage levels You can find out more at uh... devorak dot org slash peerage And Sir Kevin Strange donated up to another thousand dollars He came with a nice amount today as executive producer and he therefore becomes Baronet

2:27:44 And we could not be happier to thank him very much for that. You can put that on his letterhead and then we have one nighting today, John So you can just bring up the... Here he comes, I got it. Stephen Schneider! Come on man! You're the one and only today come on up to podium Stand over here by the lectern sir Thank you very much for your contribution To The No Agenda Show And for that reason you now have a reserved seat at the round table of The No Agenda Knights & Dames And I proudly pronounce to Kate Sir Steven of the coffee roasting and tobacco pipes. And for you we have hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, pipelines and poppies! We got half eggs with Lee sauce whiskey and bacon garlic and broccoli cheap wine and chili dogs sake and sushi molten barley

2:28:29 and hops, dusseckies and Dutch dominatrix breast milk and pavlov hot pants and booze wenches in beer ginger ale and gerbils bong hits and bourbon and mutton and mead you can find your rings at least you can send your info in that noagenda nation.com slash rings and Eric the show will get that off to as soon as possible thank you so much for supporting us and thank you to everybody It's beautiful to show up here twice a week. I truly enjoy it still. A couple things came up on Deutsche Welle, I think both of them were presented by that woman who hates you. Hates me? Yeah, Helena and she wrote- You can get her beef letter. Oh yeah yeah she...I think she blocked me on Twitter did she not

CHAPTER 47 / 56 Discussion

Intel EU Antitrust Case, Billion Euro Fine Re-examination

The European Court of Justice has ordered a re-examination of a billion-euro antitrust fine imposed on Intel eight years ago. The case is seen as a significant test for other ongoing probes into tech giants like Google and Amazon. The hosts express skepticism that the EU will ever successfully collect these large fines from American tech companies.

intel· european union· antitrust· european court of justice· google· amazon

2:29:21 I don't know. She follows me. I'm such a lightning rod Yeah, we always cause in trouble yeah tech news EU re-examines the Intel case you shouldn't talk about this just a little bit A big boost for Intel in its fight against a billion euro EU fine. The bloc's highest court says the antitrust judgment needs re-examining. The European Commission fined the chipmaker eight years ago for undercutting a smaller rival, now the European Court of Justice in Brussels has instructed a lower court to take another look at Intel's arguments. It is being seen as a test case for other antitrust probes against tech giants Google and Amazon

2:30:02 Of course, they're trying to gouge us. But this case started it was eight years ago I believe and they still haven't paid? How does that add up do they get like interest payments? I have no idea what the deal is but it seems to me that this has been dragging on forever yeah they're never going to get any money out of those cheap bastards at Google I don't know. It's a good question, I don't know. I didn't even know about it honestly. You have to look into it. Maybe you remember when it happened? It was like saber rattling. Apparently some reporters went to the Eiffel Tower or whatever that big Berlin thing is.

CHAPTER 48 / 56 Discussion

IFA Berlin Tech Show, Sony 3D Scanning and LG V30

At the IFA electronics show in Berlin, Sony unveiled new smartphones capable of 3D scanning, allowing users to create 3D-printable models of objects and heads. LG also launched the V30, featuring advanced "light-sensitive optics" and cinematic video filters. The hosts discuss the "gimmicky" nature of these features and the high cost of modern smartphones.

ifa berlin· sony· 3d scanning· lg v30· smartphones· mobile technology

2:30:45 It's IFA. They say what it is, but it's this big conference of mobile conferences in Berlin every year when... Oh, so there's the mobile conference isn't just a big giant? I thought was Barcelona where they held that well this was in Berlin I think So maybe it's a different one. There are all these conferences, they're just rolling out stuff left and right but they rolled out two phones and I hate talking about phones but I listen to the features of these phones and one of them which is a Sony 3D phone which allows you not only take a 3D photo yet the wiggle a phone around little bit it makes a 3D photo somebody but then you can print their head out on

2:31:21 a printer. On the 3D printer? Yeah and it's very cool, it was just like the guys head but anyway play this then I have a comment here's a look at some of the gadgets which have stolen the limelight this year Every smartphone can take a photo, but only the new Sony phones can take pictures in 3D and they've unveiled them first at the IFA International Electronics Show. The pictures can be printed on a 3d printer and the device will be in the shops from next month LG has also launched a new flagship at IFA. The V30 promises in new era in light-sensitive optics there are also new video functions such as a jerk free zoom motor and video effect filters for different ambiences including the thriller mode forbid of that Hollywood feeling preset selfie with cine video mode users can produce

2:32:19 cinematic video content with a clarity and quality of a professional movie. So these things keep coming out in left and right this 3D I like the 3D thing, it's got to be cool to take pictures your friends that didn't make their heads hang them somewhere. I like the Motorola commercials yeah hello Moto! And they have... I do well that's why its great commercial The mods moto mod. Yeah, little things you clip on I think they've got some marketing right there. I mean the the They've got a beamer, you know a projector projector and then it can't do like a real big camera lens You can strap on

CHAPTER 49 / 56 Discussion

Apple and Tiffany Partnership Rumors, Luxury Tech Market

Speculation arises regarding a potential partnership between Apple and luxury jeweler Tiffany & Co., based on high levels of insider buying at Tiffany's. The hosts suggest that a "Tiffany Phone" could be a successful move for Apple as it seeks to maintain its high profit-per-square-foot retail dominance. They argue the market is ready for a new luxury-tier device beyond standard face recognition features.

apple· tiffany & co· luxury goods· insider trading· retail stores

2:33:04 Yeah, what else can you strap on? Uh-huh. No I'm saying bro So the point is there's all this stuff going on and I just think Apple at some point I don't know when but at some point people are gonna say why am i spending a thousand dollars for an apple phone? Because Apple can't keep up with it. It's not as though it's Apple versus Samsung, Apple versus Samsung These other guys want to get into the action too because they look at Apple's numbers and go my god all these guys do is sell trillions of dollars worth of phones Yeah And so they're all they see this a huge market even though this market has been destroyed more than once I heard something besides point I heard something on DH unplugged which I found interesting you said that

2:33:49 According to your ancillary observations, it may look like Apple is going to do a deal with Tiffany's? Well this was based on our stock pick. And there was a bunch of insider activity going on with Tiffany's and it just dawned on me. And the only reason it dawned on me is because I've been reading so much stuff, because I'm tracking Apple stores, because I figure if they ever start reversing and start closing stores then I think its over but they're not. They did close this store recently and somebody got a bunch of tweets oh! Is that the end? I don't think so. But... I really despise doing this what we are doing right now Because this is what I you know they shouldn't call

2:34:32 Tech shows you just call it people who think they're CEO shows. Yeah, well I'm not gonna I'm not advising anybody what I'm saying is that I keep reading in these articles apples Amount of money they make per square foot And it's always followed by Tiffany. So I put the two and two together, Apple-Tiffany-Apple. Why doesn't Apple do a deal with Tiffany? It would just totally kick ass! And I'm thinking why is all this insider buying going on at Tiffany's? That's why I put it on the list Now could easily nothing, but it seems like it'd be cool to have a Tiffany phone No We'll get you the first one John was so wrong I'm just saying yeah, that's where you did. I believe that the that is

2:35:28 The time is prime for something to float in that people will just love and Samsung and Apple, I would say it wouldn't be a Samsung or an Apple product. But it just feels like you know that people are ready for something new and it's not gonna be like face recognition I don't think people give a shit about that. I think the little heads are cool Little heads here now, I only have one tech news item that I brought to the show And I want some of our producers to help me because I think this will be I mean I'd only got it This morning so I haven't even tried it maybe I can do it although I have some technical issues That I need to figure out

CHAPTER 50 / 56 Discussion

Ultrasonic Voice Assistant Vulnerability, "DolphinAttack" Research

Chinese researchers have demonstrated that voice assistants like Siri, Alexa, and Cortana can be controlled using ultrasonic commands inaudible to the human ear. This "DolphinAttack" vulnerability allows hackers to send silent instructions to devices. The hosts discuss the potential for broadcasting these high-frequency commands via television or in public spaces, though they note technical limitations in podcast audio encoding.

siri· alexa· cortana· ultrasonic· cybersecurity· chinese researchers

2:36:09 Chinese researchers, and there's a video of this have figured out that the voice assistants from Apple Google Amazon Microsoft. Does Samsung have an assistant? No no he's google so we have Siri Google Cortana what's Alexa there we go that's that's the main one or that's the main ones for three was it three or four I think four. Four is the main one. Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft that's the four big ones. That they're... And they show it so i'm going to presume that it's..I haven't tested it obviously we'll find out what They say if you transcode a voice command such as I'll say hey Alexa do something and you transcode that

2:37:06 to a frequency outside of human range, that it still works. That the device listens... understands spoken commands at very high frequency level. You mean at dog hearing level? Yes, at dog hearing level And this says this and how do we know it? Well, there's a video they show the video of it working. Although of course I can't verify because you can't hear it. The question is could you do this through a podcast Could I have high pitch commands just going out continuously that these devices would recognize even though the human ear wouldn't hear it? I don't think will that work with in 90s that won't work with the encoding we will get 96

2:37:54 Kilo bits it won't work at what? Can handle it has to be above 20 kilohertz yeah, there's nothing. There's no you won't work So it only work over the air through an originating device. It won't work through, you can't do it in a podcast. I think that has to work in person because I don't think you can get those frequencies out of any these things. You can't get off on the phone and most stereos can hit above 20. Yes speakers wont' do it. Well they have... I mean some speakers will but those aren't cheap

2:38:35 Well, I like it. Well you could also if you had a Let's say you had this device They show little box and has it has a speaker on the side And they know that commands go in a little tweet is a tweeter right? That's what it looks like It looks like a piezo type tweeter You could go into the mall Turned up really loud or in the movie theater There's a lot of fun things you can do biting yeah there's a lot of fun things you could do That's a lot of fun things you can do anyway. So I want to know if anyone can make this, can you make this happen? Um...I don't believe it-it's too bad! I mean, I wish you could go on as a guest on a television talk show. I'm sure the TV speakers won't do it. And then just have commands spitting out telling them, you know, Alexa play the latest No Agenda show. All kinds of fun stuff. Yeah just bring your little box and push the button every once in awhile. I gotta figure this out

2:39:32 I think it would be phenomenal if we could mess around with that. It's definitely, if possible a huge security hole What about using the time domain instead of the frequency domain and having something very slowly said that can actually be audibly heard? That is also possible Well, we have enough smart people in our producing audience John someone will know what to do and They're all working for a living as Jews named Ben And they got nothing but time on their hands and actually they would love to do this. Yeah I know it on company time that's right Do it on company time and send it to me Adam at curry calm The landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders Gaffes, The View Interview

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is caught in a verbal gaffe, accidentally attributing a Trump policy to President Obama. She also appeared on "The View," where host Joy Behar claimed that 95% of Donald Trump's statements are lies, citing PolitiFact and The New York Times. The hosts mock Behar's "moronic" reliance on these fact-checking outlets.

sarah huckabee sanders· the view· joy behar· politifact· gaffes

2:40:22 Okie dokie, what else do we have here? I have a couple of things. Oh, I can have hmm. I've some Sarah Huckabee Sanders who was out and about doing the rounds. I have a ISO that's used as an intermezzo kind of in between a little Lester Holton blowing the pronunciation of Irma Oregon ran for the thanks and millions in Florida are anxiously eyeing Hurricane Irma and racing to prepare for the worst. It's always funny, well not quite as good as Sarah Huckabee. Work permits and other government benefits are being gradually phased out

2:41:11 But rather than leave DACA recipients and the men of women of immigration enforcement in confusing limbo while the DACA program was challenged by states in the same court that struck down another of the previous administration's unlawful immigration orders earlier this year, President Obama is laying out a responsible 24-month phaseout. No permit—sorry, President Trump? Uh oh! —no permits will be expiring Whoops. It's an honest mistake, it can happen. She never worked for the other guy? Why should she say that? I don't know... And she was on The View with her dad Mike Huckabee and Joy Behar laid down some facts! She dropped some facts on us! Is the media supposed to not report on the fact that 95% of what he says is a lie?

2:42:06 That is a that is you are doing exactly what we're talking about and pushing a false narrative No, it's 95% of what the president says. It's not a lot from political It's not just the dreaded New York Times It is other other outlets that say it 5 percent of his statements are true five percent Just five percent only five percent is true Only five percent? How do you even manage to talk so only 5% of what you say is true. It's facts, it's the New York Times, it's Politico, PolitiFact, Fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, check false. Only five percent! She is a moron that woman Yeah Yes I thought was pretty brave Sarah Huckabee went on the show Oh she should have...she won't go back A lot of reinforcement of what we've been discovering about racism versus bigotry versus

CHAPTER 52 / 56 Discussion

Democratic Party 2020 Strategy, "Two White Men" Debate

MSNBC's Chris Matthews and other pundits debate whether the Democratic Party can afford to run "two white men" on the 2020 presidential ticket. They suggest that the party requires ethnic or gender balance, mentioning Kamala Harris and Cory Booker as potential candidates. The hosts compare this to the "charm" of Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, arguing that personality often outweighs identity in winning elections.

chris matthews· democratic party· 2020 election· kamala harris· identity politics· barack obama

2:43:07 you know, racist. And I'm starting to understand much better now that sexism racism none of this it can never be against men or whites or white man purely because the only time something can be sexist or racist or another is if it includes the system that includes the... Yeah, you've been talking about this. I know but it's a change of definition and i just want to recognize it and maybe how we can... I don't know if yeah go ahead. No, I agree in total I'm lined up with you on this one right there where they have the shooting squad firing squad? That's what I meant

2:44:01 I just don't know what to make of it. Well, it's really in an odd way fighting against institutions which I'm not against. There are a lot of institutions that I don't like most of them in fact or have take issue with them But instead of fighting the institutional system, you're abusing men. White men in the process saying that we are the problem and we're the fault of everything and we need to shut up and learn whatever that is And I don't know, it's even this conversation just to make it even crazier. Here is Larry O'Donnell and they're trying to figure out what do they do with the Democratic Party? Here's a question can the Democrats run...I'll be blunt now at this point in time of 2020 election can they run two white men? This is the question! This is what their talking about! Yeah this is Chris Matthews Oh Chris Matthews sorry not Larry O'Donnell

2:45:01 That actually is a dynamite observation by Matthews. Yeah, given the nature of the party to make up for the party today can they just run two white men still or does there have to be balance gender balance ethnic balance of some kind you start I think there has to be some balance and I think two white guys won't do it I think on the Democratic side that's why you're seeing Cory Booker and you're seeing Duval Patrick and you're seeing other deal breaker if it's too white guy I don't know. I think it is, that's my thing Well but we're so they're gonna then go to the Republicans and appreciate you saying that but... What do you mean they are going to go to the Republicans? Well what your saying is are they gonna penalize the Democrats if they only have two white men And I'm saying if they only have two white men, they will vote for the Republican I would say people putting together will anticipate the problem Two White Men Big Problem So the Democrats can run two whites I think he's right! I agree That why they need Kamala Harris

2:45:59 Well, she's an idiot. She's smug is what she is and she can't win very soon you know the thing we always comes back to when we start looking at who's gonna win who can run it? Who can get the nomination I mean y'all just look at them the last Republican primaries with the 19 guys or how many there were at the beginning and why they didn't beat Trump, who should have been anyone should be able to beat him. But you had Trump called them out. You're too slow-witted. You have no low energy and he had all these things to say about these guys right? And that's what the reason Trump was because that's what the public thinks when you see Jeb Bush yeah The guy is low energy He's kind of a dud. He's got those funny glasses with those big eyeballs and all the rest of it

2:46:46 You really, to get a president has to be someone that the public wants to vote for. And it could be any white black... I mean Obama was the charmer of all time That's why he won It wasn't because he was black He didn't win because he was black that's for sure He won because he was really charming and funny! And he is funny Has a great natural sense of humor The whole thing So he can win Bill, yeah. Good looking guy. Handsome! I would say the same thing George Bush when he ran the first time and before he got so dull-witted He's a quick witted guy knew he was going to win. I won a lot of money on George Bush

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David Brock's Verrit Launch, Pro-Clinton Media Platform

David Brock has launched Verrit, a new media platform aimed at the "65.8 million" Hillary Clinton voters. The site uses "authentication codes" to verify its pro-Clinton "facts," which the hosts describe as blatant propaganda. They mock the site's lack of an RSS feed and mention a producer who registered a "typo-squatting" domain, Cerit.com, to counter the platform.

david brock· verrit· shareblue· media matters· hillary clinton· propaganda

2:47:31 And you got other guys who's stiff. You know, it's like again Zuckerberg was sitting there with that straight up and he's not going to get in nobody was gonna like would vote for him in a million years. Well, share blue. I don't think the Democrats have a group of guys phony. They don't have anything yet. Not yet but they're already working share blue Who we've talked about quite a bit in the past couple of years. That's the outfit from David Brock, Clinton Money. Oh Brock yeah! Yeah Brock and Peter Dow so they started verrit.com V E R R I T dot com Which is very if you haven't seen this right at the top it tells you what it is media for the 65 point 8 million

2:48:22 I guess that means the Hillary voters and it's a very odd site. Very odd, but they've put in this... They've put in a verit authentication code And the way it works is, it has an authentication code each story so you can go back and verify that its a real story. And its the real truth such as Republican Party Is Harmful To America's Children True! You always remember David Broxigow does media matters so don't lose sight of that Yeah same thing

2:49:04 Uh, equal pay for women of color is still centuries away. True! Centuries I tell you. Centuries Study mainstream media activist Trump's mouthpiece and Clinton's foe Wow...I'm not so sure about that But uh it's a- just take a look at it And very annoying even though its based on WordPress they don't have an RSS feed Okay? I don't know why they wouldn't do that But the reason I bring this up is, is I think that they're really going to push this and this is where they'll push a lot of their propaganda from. The so-called techno experts. Even though they don't have an RSS feed listed WordPress has RSS feeds kind of built in it if you put in any of the classic codes that you use normally and put it into URL line, you'll see a feed will crop up. Slash feed? That's one of them. Shit! You're right.

2:49:59 Okay, thank you. Nailed it! You're welcome. Yeah that's very good. Thank you very much That's exactly what I was looking for let me subscribe right now Oh man...You are a genius John C. Dvorak As is one of our producers I think it's Chris Wilson from Australia I don't think he set it up yet but he got seret dot com C-E-R-R-I-T, which is genius. And I can't believe that Media Matters or ShareBlue didn't come up with it It's a very... this is something you do in the search engine business You buy words that start with the key next to the one that people will use Instead of a V, you might hit a C Yeah, yeah happens all time

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Global Conflict Update, Rohingya Persecution and Angola Elections

A "clip blitz" provides updates on international news, including U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan that killed civilians and the mass exodus of Rohingya Muslims from Burma to Bangladesh. In Angola, the ruling MPLA party extended its 37-year rule with the election of João Lourenço. The hosts note the "mean-spirited" nature of the Buddhist-led violence against the Rohingya.

afghanistan· rohingya· burma· bangladesh· angola· mpla

2:50:45 Usually you then you hook it up to a virus and your in business. Well the virus would be the no agenda show yeah, just I Think it's genius very smart We need more of that more of that so So I do have a clip blitz if you want to finish the show that way yeah That's a good idea home you get set up okay cliplets yes one two three four five Okay, are you ready hold on a second here? We go 33 Rowing gas in Burma run out

2:51:23 In Afghanistan, a U.S. air strike destroyed a home in the southeastern province of Logar Wednesday, killing at least 11 civilians and injuring 16 others. One resident put the death toll higher saying at least 28 civilians were killed. The assault came just two days after air strikes killed more than a dozen civilians in the western province of Herat Monday. Meanwhile, the Pentagon said Wednesday the number of US troops in Afghanistan has increased to more than 11,000—thousands more than previously known. In Bangladesh, aid groups say more than 18,000 refugees from the majority Muslim Rohingya community have fled violence in neighboring Burma in recent days with thousands more trapped at the border attempting to cross. The mass exodus came after Burmese security forces stormed Rohingya towns opening fire on civilians torching homes and forcing thousands to flee many of those arriving in Bangladesh Wednesday arrived sick or with bullet wounds

2:52:19 The Buddhists are killing us with bullets. They burned our houses and tried to shoot us. They killed my husband with a bullet." Rohingyas have long faced persecution and violence in Burma, where they are denied citizenship. Angola's ruling MPLA party is set to extend its 37-year rule after the Electoral Commission officially declared it the winner of last month's elections. Defence Minister João Lourenço will officially replace President Eduardo dos Santos, who spent almost 38 years in power. Angolans hope the new leadership will bring change to the oil rich nation where many live in poverty.

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Catalonia Independence Referendum, Yemen Cholera Crisis

The Catalan government has set a binding referendum for independence from Spain for October 1st, despite opposition from Madrid. Meanwhile, in Yemen, the Saudi-led coalition continues airstrikes as the country faces a massive cholera epidemic and starvation. The hosts criticize the lack of media coverage regarding the humanitarian disaster in Yemen and the ongoing U.S. support for the conflict.

catalonia· spain· independence· yemen· saudi coalition· cholera

2:53:12 Well, French wine won't be flowing quite so freely this year. Climate change making sure of that the world's number two wine producer has seen its crop shrink due to extreme weather some farmers have lost 85% of their harvest due to frosty weather not quite the chilled shabbily that wine connoisseurs had in mind. Thanks Obama! Red 33! Catalonian vote coming... oops I overshot the mark. Here we go. The Catalan government has set a binding referendum on independence from Spain on October 1st This comes after its regional parliament approved the vote along with a legal framework to set up a new state That's despite fierce resistance from the opposition and Spain central government Madrid says the vote is illegal and is vowing to stop it It's another no agenda Yemen update

2:54:11 This has got to be the last war. In Yemen, U.S.-backed Saudi coalition warplanes attacked a checkpoint outside the capital Sana'a on Wednesday killing at least five civilians. Witnesses said the attack came out of the blue We were surprised by the missile falling on the checkpoint, which injured innocent people in their car while they were on their way to celebrate the Eid holiday. The latest civilian deaths came as human rights groups asked the U.N. to establish an independent inquiry into war crimes and human rights abuses in the Yemen conflict, which the UN says has killed more than 5,000 civilians since March of 2015. The US-backed Saudi led war

2:54:51 and naval blockade has decimated Yemen's health and sanitation infrastructure, has left 7 million Yemenis on the brink of starvation while a cholera epidemic has killed more than 2 000 people and sickened more than half million others. You know no one talks about Yemen what a mess! Only we do well yeah but you don't talk about it enough I was thinking that when i was listening to that clip Do they still have a kill list that Trump has to go over now? I've questioned this a couple times myself. I don't know, i don't know We have to find out! I can, I can find out. I'm sure we could find out if he still has a kill list Yeah, but is Trump going to go over it? Well I think this guy should be killed This guy... oh not that guy Kill him yeah A lot of elections too in your clip blitz

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Show Wrap-up, Hurricane Safety and Outro Mix

The hosts conclude the episode with a final warning for listeners in Florida to stay safe during Hurricane Irma. They sign off from Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley, reminding the audience of the upcoming Sunday show. The episode ends with a produced audio mix featuring show themes, "Boom Shakalaka" clips, and critiques of news algorithms.

hurricane irma· austin· silicon valley· fema· outro

2:55:42 Yes, the Catalonian story is one that fascinated me the most. That's always been an issue Also we did have people that Twitter tweeted me saying they would want to talk about the Rohingya situation I don't know that much about it so we have to look into this That's the group of people being killed by the Buddhists Do the Buddhists have guns? Are they shooting at them and this is what There are a lot of mean spirited Buddhist out there Don't kid yourself Really Uh, I didn't know this. Yeah, killer Buddhists. Oh well that's a show title if i ever heard one. Alright everybody who will be watching C-SPAN for you? Who will be watching the mainstream media the M5M for you? That is us and we do it so you don't have to and we'll report back on things that sometimes are interesting to know like the little clip bits blitz It's like Charlie Rose is The Week Ahead only with information

2:56:40 Yeah, I'll be coming up on the Sunday show. All right everybody in Florida stay safe as we know it's getting pretty bad out here Stay safe. Yeah Sunday stays Actually when you do it sounds better yeah Maybe I should just when we do the fit I should be using the mic. Yeah, okay You pound the mic pounded pound the mic. Yes Oh We'll work on it, everybody. We'll work on it. Coming to you from the common law condo here in downtown Austin Texas in the Cluedio 5x9 FEMA Region 6 if you're looking for it on the government map In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where now I am looking for a gardener I'm John C. Dvorak we will return on Sunday another show day who knows what will happen right here On NO Agenda till then Adios Mofos!

2:57:46 foreign Following the elgos, elgos. Hit it!

2:58:31 I don't know what's wrong with these kids today. Build a wall! Kids these days, These kids. Yay! Shut up! Boo shakalaka! Algos algos and more algos. Hey, Simpson! Who eat me Hillary Clinton? What is the matter with kids too?! How we ever beat the Russians? Let's burn Potville I would rather be broke than be a douchebag. What's the matter with kids? When the algorithm starts to sway, opinions on the news today There is a guy coding in LA To keep us afraid and Facebook made it

2:59:39 What is on stake? Dropping some knowledge at the VMAs And I think to myself, what a horrible world I see McCain Tony Blaine too Still walking free Still selling nukes And I think to myself What a horrible

3:00:27 The colors of the rainbow for LGBTQI are shoved in the faces of people going I see Trump serving food saying no but what he's really saying is how much she hates the Jews. I hear millennials cry, I wonder if there's still more war

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