Episode 914 · Thursday, 23 March 2017

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Investigations into Russian influence intensify as new reports link Paul Manafort to oligarchs and whistleblowers allege a massive intelligence schism within the American security state.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 914

About this episode

Paul Manafort faces mounting legal pressure as an Associated Press investigation by Jeff Horowitz reveals a decade of secret work for Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska. Memos suggest Manafort proposed a political influence campaign to favor Vladimir Putin and undermine democratic movements in Ukraine. While the White House distances itself from these historical business dealings, rumors of an imminent indictment circulate throughout the San Francisco Bay Area.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes announced that the intelligence community widely disseminated incidental collection data regarding the Trump transition team, a move Representative Adam Schiff criticized as a breach of protocol. Former CIA agent Larry Johnson claims GCHQ utilized back-channels to bypass U.S. surveillance laws, while Bob Woodward characterized the unmasking of American citizens as a gross violation of privacy. Meanwhile, Senator Dianne Feinstein faced mockery for mispronouncing the Emoluments Clause during a legislative push against presidential conflicts of interest.

Journalist Carl Bernstein appeared on CNN to accuse the administration of inventing conspiracies, though his delivery suggested a reliance on scripted talking points. Actor Tim Allen compared the current Hollywood political climate to 1930s Germany, citing intense pressure to conform to liberal orthodoxy. The program concludes with a look at the death of Chuck Barris, whose claims of being a CIA assassin were notably omitted from his official CBS obituary.


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CHAPTER 01 / 49 Discussion

Paul Manafort Indictment Rumors, Bay Area Political Tensions

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing the political climate in the San Francisco Bay Area. Residents are reportedly anticipating the indictment of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort on charges related to Russian collusion. The hosts clarify the distinction between Manafort and other campaign figures like Corey Lewandowski and Roger Stone.

paul manafort· donald trump· bay area· silicon valley· corey lewandowski· roger stone· russian collusion

00:00 Why didn't you shake her hand? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 23rd, 2017. This is your award-winning Getmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9er14. This is no agenda. Setting all microwaves to record mode and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the drone star state Austin, Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where everyone is in a tizzy, I'm John C. Dvorak. Why is everyone in a tizzy? Oh, they're all in a tizzy. Who's in a tizzy? Who's everyone and what's the tiz? What's the tiz? Tell me what's happening. Well, everyone of course is the entire population of the Bay Area which is very conservatively left-wing. That's contradiction in terms. And they are in a tizzy. In a tizzy. Yeah, over, because they know that

00:57 Manafort is gonna be indicted and and jailed for being a Russian spy. I haven't actually followed that that particular Story too much. Oh that that's the story. That's the counter story. That's the big story though I mean I got that is actually the big story because it sounds like that's actually true that he was in some kind of collusion Well, not during the election, which is what they're trying to prove. Well, he didn't register as a lobbyist. Is that his main fault? He was working... Most of the time he was working for Russian... Actually, first he was... Well, I actually have the whole story. I have the complete story as one of my clips, and I don't even know why I should be explaining it because I think this is actually a pretty good rundown.

01:43 We're going to have a couple of different kind of cool things. All right, so let's just is there background in here who this guy is for people who don't know what the heck we're talking about? Manafort was Trump's, we all remember, he was the campaign manager. The campaign manager for a couple of months. He's the guy who who hurt the girl, the journalist. He did? Remember he said, you pulled my arm. No, no, no. Wasn't that Manafort? No, it was some one of the other, it was the guy that was, uh, Oh, that was Lewandowski. I'm sorry. You're right. Lewandowski. Yeah. He's different. And Manafort's in bed with, not in bed literally, but he's in bed with Stone. Ah. They, they, they're, but they're, it's like a public relations company. You mean Roger Rock?

CHAPTER 02 / 49 Discussion

Associated Press Report, Paul Manafort Russian Billionaire Ties

An Associated Press investigation by Jeff Horowitz reveals that Paul Manafort worked for Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska starting in 2004. Memos suggest Manafort proposed plans to influence U.S. politics to favor Vladimir Putin's interests and undercut the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. The White House maintains that Manafort's historical business dealings have no connection to President Donald Trump.

paul manafort· oleg deripaska· vladimir putin· associated press· jeff horowitz· orange revolution· ukraine

02:24 Roger Stone. No, Roger Rock is his new name. Roger Rock. So let's listen to this. This is a, it's gonna, this is three-parter unfortunately, but it, at least they'll get it out of the way and you'll see what everyone's in it. This is a pretty good report. This is the Manafort Report Part 1. According to the Associated Press, Manafort worked for a Russian billionaire in 2005 with close ties to President Vladimir Putin and he drew up plans to influence politics in the U.S. that would favor Russian government interests. For more on all of this. We turn now to Jeff Horowitz of AP who helped break the story. Jeff, let's lay out the findings here. Jeff Horowitz, AP News. Again, you stop right there. Stop. The reason this is such a good report is this AP report, and generally speaking, the Associated Press takes other people's work and then they... Yeah, they rarely produce their own reports. I've noticed that. They rarely do. But when they do, it becomes... And they promotion it. They promotion it.

03:19 So they promotion and the this guy is the guy who wrote the thing that everyone's I'm telling you They're in a tizzy over this where Jeff let's lay out your findings here dear sure so according to memos that we obtained that Manafort wrote to Oleg Deripaska and his associates and Deripaska is a Russian aluminum magnate very close to Vladimir Putin Manafort was working for for Deripaska for a number of years starting sort of in 04 and and probably continuing through about 2009, on a whole bunch of projects in Eastern Europe with some ties into the U.S. as well. And so, what Manafort was basically promising to do in the memos we've obtained is to—was attempt to undercut Orange Revolution, so sort of revolutions that were—as a reference to the 2004 uprising in Ukraine that overthrew a pro-Russian government.

04:11 So he's trying to prevent that and sort of promote the Putin government's interests throughout the region. And part of that was focused on the U.S. as well, with the idea being that Manafort would use contacts in Washington as well. So, in the context of what's happening now, in the Trump administration, what's the connection between what Paul Manafort did 10 years ago, or 12 years ago, and what's happening today? So, Paul Manafort's work is historical on this front. He had a falling out with Oleg Deripaska over a business deal that soured and, you know, as best we know, there is no continued sort of business relationship between them at all. Okay. Did you walk away from your post? I walked away from my post because a robocall was called. Hold on a second. I'm having trouble getting my headset on. Hello. I'm sorry. Have you received that call?

CHAPTER 03 / 49 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren Robocall, Automated Bot Interactions

A host describes receiving a sophisticated robocall that utilized a female voice capable of simulating natural conversation. The call, which initially seemed interactive, turned out to be a recorded message from Senator Elizabeth Warren. This interaction highlights the increasing use of advanced bot technology by the Democratic Party for outreach.

elizabeth warren· robocall· automated bot· telemarketing· democratic party

05:03 No. Oh, that's the new bot. Is it a real bot that can talk to you? Yes, yes. And then I love these bots. I've only been called by one once. But but she doesn't allow you. She she doesn't allow you to interrupt. It's a woman's voice. Yes. Because you say hello. Hello. And then you don't hear anything else. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. I had a little trouble with my headset. Hi. I want to tell you about this. You can't interrupt then. But then you get a point where you can. And that's where you just say pseudo root. Pseudo-rude I just I just say main menu I've mean pseudo reboot anyway, but it turned out to be a call from Elizabeth Warren I got one. I got you one yesterday the Democrats are calling around again. Oh

CHAPTER 04 / 49 Discussion

Paul Manafort Investigation, Unmasking and Lobbying Allegations

Jeff Horowitz of the Associated Press details the ongoing scrutiny of Paul Manafort by members of Congress. Investigations focus on whether Manafort received illicit cash payments from the Ukrainian government and his failure to disclose lobbying work performed in the United States. Despite the media attention, the hosts argue that there is currently zero evidence of criminal collusion involving the Trump campaign.

paul manafort· devin nunes· adam schiff· associated press· ukraine· lobbying· house intelligence committee

05:53 Well, I'm telling you, this report that you're hearing here, for everyone out there, this is the definitive report done by the guy who wrote the article. Everybody is, they're just kind of wringing their hands going, ha ha, we've got him now. We've got him now. Exactly. Let's go to part two. As best we know, there is no continued business relationship between them at all. But the thing that's important here is that Paul Manafort in these memos both demonstrated a willingness and sort of a knowledge of the region and set of contacts to do work on behalf of the Russian government. In fact, that's one of the things that he was even promising in these memos was that he would happily do work directly on behalf of the Russian state if it was of interest. So what's the White House response been to this? So the White House's response to this has been, one, to note that it was 10 years ago,

06:44 That's emphatically true. And they have been very careful to say that Donald Trump—President Donald Trump knew nothing about Paul Manafort's past clients. Now, they are also, of course, have sort of downplayed the role that Mr. Manafort played during the campaign. He was the campaign chairman. He was in charge of the ship for, I think, a number of months, certainly including the Republican National Convention. And, you know, some of his people sort of have stayed on in Trump's orbit as well. But the White House's position is that this has nothing to do with Mr. Trump, that Paul Manafort is a private citizen, that he did nothing illegal, and that it's time to move on. OK. So I didn't realize it was 10 years ago, but it makes sense.

07:29 Yeah, yeah. Well, you're one of those guys that's in that business and you hook up with some oligarch and of course it eventually doesn't work out. You know who one of those guys is, although he never became a politician? Tom Freston. Tom Freston, who was the CEO of MTV, and then he was big at Viacom until he was fired because he didn't buy Facebook. Not Facebook. What's the other one? The other one. MySpace. MySpace, yeah, because he didn't buy MySpace. But Tom Freston, when I met him, when he was CEO of MTV Networks, his history was import export from Afghanistan. Hey, Ro. So I'm not kidding either. Yeah, I used to do import export where Afghanistan. OK, Tom. OK, look around, look left, look right. All right. All right. Let's see. We'll finish this off and then.

08:24 We really don't have to discuss it much. I think this report's pretty complete, and I think it's a—I don't think it's really got much legs, personally, but that's not the way everyone sees it. Is Paul Manafort being investigated in any way now? So, yes, there are a number of different things going on, and some of this has been—a lot of this has been publicly reported already. There are sort of a number of different reviews. And, of course, we also have members of Congress who are, at this point, hinting that they want to subpoena him or haul him in front of committees in either the Senate or the House. And so that, I think, is going to be something where

09:01 We might be getting a bit more public exposure to this and to be clear This is not the reason that he no longer was chairman of Donald Trump's campaign. That is kind of a separate issue No, no, he left the campaign in August amid a whole bunch of concerns as to whether they first of all whether the Ukrainian government might have paid him cash payments in a way that that was potentially illicit. That was sort of a controversy back then. And then we also reported that in 2013, he actually had been doing lobbying work or had been his firm had been overseeing lobbying work in the United States on behalf of those Ukrainian interests.

09:38 without disclosing it. So, those two things together sort of preceded his departure. All right. Jeff Horwitz of the Associated Press joining us from Washington. Thanks so much. I got to tell you, between the Manafort story, the Nunes speech, Adam Schiff, the whole—everybody—we have absolutely zero evidence of anything. I've seen nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. Zero. Here is...I got one that...just to continue on this pace, but we may have seen...there's maybe zero evidence, but we're starting to see some interesting things going on. Oh, I agree with that for sure. What do you have? Well, first of all... What are you learning? What am I learning? First of all, I think there's a schism within the agency.

CHAPTER 05 / 49 Discussion

Carl Bernstein CNN Appearance, Intelligence Community Schism

Journalist Carl Bernstein appeared on CNN to argue that President Trump is inventing conspiracies to deflect from Russian interference. The hosts analyze the segment's production, noting that Bernstein seemed to be reading from specific talking points rather than speaking independently. They suggest this reflects a growing divide within the U.S. intelligence community regarding the administration.

carl bernstein· cnn· donald trump· barack obama· intelligence community· special prosecutor

10:28 Ooh, within the Agency of Central Intelligence? Yeah. Yes, that one. And the reason I say that is because, in fact I have two clips to kind of just show what is this clip? Why do I even have this clip? This is a clip of, the clip is Carl Bernstein. They're going to a break. Carl Bernstein's in a six box. He's up in the corner. That's the CNN set to box. A set this sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, box, sex box. He's up in the corner and they're going to a break. But there's something phony about this break because Bernstein interrupts and then he starts yakking about this whole thing, meaningless blather. And then they don't go to the break after he's done and they keep talking. And I found that was the point of going.

11:17 I don't know about you, but when you're going to a break, you're usually you're on a clock and you're gonna go to some break. Within, you let somebody interrupt for a few minutes, but you don't just stop, you don't go to the break anymore. So here we go. We gotta take a I'm sorry, go ahead, Carl. I think we need to make clear what the president is doing here. He is trying to invent a new conspiracy laid at Obama, laid at the outgoing intelligence community of the United States, laid at the press, and laid at supposed leaking that is more important than what the Russians did and more important

11:52 important in what he is laying out in this conspiracy than what he and his people might have done. So, it's with the lines are now drawn and the question is can it be investigated by the House committee? And it's very doubtful and why we need a special prosecutor and a 9-11 type commission to get to the bottom of all of this. You know what's interesting Maggie, I mean to Carl's point about you know we sort of You know, it's been what, 60-some days. We kind of know the playbook now, you know? I mean, the morning of... Yeah, it's Hitler's. We all know that. It's Hitler's playbook. He goes on and on. They never go to the break. Bernstein is showing up... I mean, he's now kind of a paid contributor to be on CNN. But he spiels what sounds to me like somebody's talking points. He's not his own man, let's put it that way.

12:41 And I'm seeing this more and more, and there's some sort of agency talking points from someone. But what about Woodward? Where did he go? Hold on one second. Everyone ends with the same statement. Everybody. And we'll hear that throughout the show, I'm sure. Independent investigation. You and I talked about this. This is what they want. It doesn't... So clearly everything fell apart with whatever Nunes has to say. Because they were like, oh, it all fell apart. We can't have our... Congress can't do this anymore. Whatever. I don't even know why. Well, there's a lot of... The Nunes thing has really opened up an interesting can of worms as far as I'm concerned.

CHAPTER 06 / 49 Discussion

Bob Woodward O'Reilly Interview, Intelligence Unmasking Legality

Bob Woodward appeared on Fox News with Bill O'Reilly to discuss the potential illegal unmasking of American citizens in intelligence reports. Woodward characterized the failure to follow minimization procedures as a "gross violation" and potentially criminal. The hosts discuss the technical ease of unmasking names within classified databases, suggesting the process is less secure than publicly portrayed.

bob woodward· bill o'reilly· fox news· unmasking· surveillance· minimization· intelligence community

13:20 So, Woodward, who I think still, I mean, there's no reason that we don't think he still works for some government spy agency, because he was always in military intelligence. And then he went, and according to the, we mentioned this again to the doubtfuls out there that listen to the show only once in a while, you go to the book Family of Secrets. by Russ Baker, and it's very clearly outlined that Woodward's always been an intelligence. And these books, these giant books and stuff he's reading, I think Bernstein finally got jealous. He got co-opted by somebody, now he's showing up a lot with the talking points. Woodward, meanwhile, is a little irked by this because it sounds like there's some schism going on in the community itself. And so he shows up of all places,

14:12 On O'Reilly! And he's giving a completely different angle on this. He's talking about the leaked memos, the unmasking, and it's illegal and all that. And he's on a different track completely, and it's just like, what? Continuing now with our lead story, the Trump tap story makes a major turn. Joining us from Washington, Bob Woodward, an associate editor of the Washington Post. So, I don't want to speculate, that's what the others do, and we don't want to do that. But we have on the record two members of the House Intelligence Committee saying that they know that this stuff that was floating around the intel agencies was A, inappropriate, possible, against the law.

15:00 How big do you think the story is? I think it's, if true, is a gross violation. And it's not what Trump said about him being tapped directly, but apparently what has happened here is a couple of diplomats who can be legitimately wiretapped We're talking about meeting with Trump or people on his transition team. And, of course, you can learn all kinds of things from diplomats gossiping, because that's what occurs under the rules, and they're pretty strict.

15:37 You are supposed, it's called minimization. You don't name the American person who is being discussed. And there are 20 people in the intelligence community. for intelligence reasons, can say, OK, we need to unmask or take the minimization off of these names. But the idea that there was an intelligence failure here is really thin. It's again down the middle. It's not what Trump said, but this could be

16:14 criminal on the part of people who decided, oh, let's name these people and put it in writing. Before we discuss that, I just want to make a point about this unmasking. Are you kidding me? Unmasking is easy for anyone to just click. It's one command and it's unmasked. Like it's this big secret. Where I know personally, I know a dudette named Bernadette. who worked at the drone department, in the drone department, she ran all the servers. And when she left that department, someone said, hey, could you just write down the root password for me so we can get in there? And it never changed! It never changed! This is crazy, this masking. What secrets do you think we're hiding in this big computer masking scheme? Bullcrap! Here's the thing that's interesting.

CHAPTER 07 / 49 Discussion

Larry Johnson RT Interview, GCHQ Surveillance Claims

Former CIA agent Larry Johnson claims that British intelligence agency GCHQ passed information to the Obama administration through back-channels to bypass U.S. surveillance laws. Johnson asserts that while Barack Obama may not have directed the activity, John Brennan and James Clapper were fully aware. This alleged meddling is cited as a primary driver of the current schism within the intelligence community.

larry johnson· gchq· john brennan· james clapper· judge napolitano· russia today· surveillance

17:08 To me the unmasking or masking part is not the interesting part, it's the schism I'm starting to see. Oh no, I understand the schism. By the way, it should be a fractal of what's going on that we're pointing out in the dimension. Yes, dimension A and B. And I want to hook right into it with a former CIA agent, Larry Johnson. And this will maybe help a little bit with...it's about the claim that it was the British intelligence, GCHQ, who gave the intel about Trump to the Obama administration. Now this guy is a member of...you know, there's a...I think we've heard from these guys before. This guy is another character, I would say. Of course he is. Of course he's a character. He's a RT contributor. Yes, yes, yes. But he has interesting things to say, and I think it fits into your schism.

17:53 So this is about this information, which apparently he had weeks ago, was known. They'd posted it on their little, you know, this concerned former intelligence personnel, that little group. Yeah, it's funny. My sense is that on Monday Napolitano says this on TV, says he has intel sources who believe... This of course is that douchebag, the media douchebag on CNN. This is... seltzer water. This is true. You're saying you were one of those sources but you didn't know that Napolitano was going to use you like that. Yeah, well apparently what happened is I communicated when Donald Trump tweeted what he did on Saturday two weeks ago.

18:32 The next day I was interviewed on Russia Today. Now, I had known about the fact that the British, through GHCQ, were passing information back-channel. This was not done at the direction of Barack Obama, let's be clear about that. But it was being done with the full knowledge of people like John Brennan and Jim Clapper. And I had been told this by two different people I know within the intelligence community, you know, in January. They were very concerned about this because they saw it as an unfair meddling of, uh, in the politics, but it was a way to get around the issue of American intelligence agencies not collecting. To be clear, you had this second hand, so you didn't get this information directly. You were hearing it from others. Yeah, whatever. I'm hearing it from people who are in a position to know. That's correct.

19:21 Now, so I posted that on the VIPs discussion board and apparently one of the individuals there shared that with Judge Napolitano. Now I'm thinking that the schism, because all schisms happen for a reason, they have a ground zero, may have been this very event. And of course that's why Clapper lied. Nothing going on as far as I know. Of course he lies all the time. Brennan's a Muslim. Brennan's a Muslim, Clapper's a liar. And it probably split down the middle with people who were thinking, we have to be patriotic. This is our duty. And other people who said, yeah, no, that's against the law.

CHAPTER 08 / 49 Discussion

Michael Morell CBS Interview, Incidental Collection Defense

Former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell defended the intelligence community on CBS, explaining the concept of "incidental collection." Morell argued that surveillance targets were legitimate foreign nationals and that any collection of Trump transition team data was a standard byproduct of intelligence work. The hosts critique the interview as a rehearsed exchange designed to protect the agency's reputation.

michael morell· scott pelley· cbs news· cia· nsa· incidental collection· devin nunes

20:00 I think that's probably... I think that's exactly the schism that you just described. And I think that's why we have these two groups. Now we have Woodward on one side and Bernstein on the other. One of them is trying to distract, oh, let's get a special prosecutor. That's like splitting up Laurel and Hardy. It is. Actually, it's very much like it. So I was wondering, do we have an official? Because there's got to be some mediation in the middle. There's got to be some official, especially from the CIA. So where would I go to get the official? commentary, well I would go to the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley who is going to interview Morell, the former CIA guy. Oh, perfect. And first he introduces him with way too much introduction, which indicates to me immediately when I see that where the introduction is a bit much and it

20:52 It's a stilted conversation because it's not a conversation. This is a rehearsed bit where Morrell is reading or reading from a prompter and and Pelly's reading from a prompter and this is all rehearsed and it tells us what they want us to believe. Now for some insight into all of this we'll turn to Michael Morrell. He is the former number two at the Central Intelligence Agency. Another way of saying he's poop. I'm number one, I'm number two. Number two at the Central Intelligence Agency and he was for the record a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House run last year. First time we have seen... Stop, stop, stop. That is the first time they've ever mentioned that that I can recall. I agree. I agree.

21:37 I've not heard that either. So there's a reason for that? Oh yeah. Scott, this is what we in the intelligence community call incidental collection. And that means that the target was a legitimate foreign national intelligence target and not an American. So no, Donald Trump was not the target of this collection. And just because U.S. intelligence is listening in on the conversations of one of these foreign officials doesn't necessarily mean that official is up to something

22:14 nefarious. Correct, Scott. There are thousands of conversations every day between U.S. officials and foreign officials and some of those conversations are picked up. The incidental collection that occurs is numerous and it happens every day. Congressman Nunes says that there was really no valuable intelligence in any of this. Scott, that may be Chairman Nunes' view, but I can tell you that these reports would not have been disseminated by NSA had NSA not believed that there was intelligence value there. Now, Congressman Nunes discovered these reports, took them to the White House, or I should say took the information to the White House, and beat the president on that. Is that unusual?

22:59 Yes, Scott, it is. It sounds to me as if he did not get these reports directly from Mike Rogers at NSA, but somebody else brought them to him. It would have been much more appropriate to have gone back to Director Rogers to ask about the reports, to get a full Wow, so first of all, kudos for calling that a scripted interview.

CHAPTER 09 / 49 Discussion

Devin Nunes Intelligence Findings, Trump Transition Surveillance

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes announced that the intelligence community collected and widely disseminated information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition. Nunes clarified that this surveillance was unrelated to the Russia investigation or any criminal activity. The hosts discuss the friction between these findings and previous statements made by FBI Director James Comey.

devin nunes· house intelligence committee· trump transition· surveillance· unmasking· james comey

23:38 And second of all, it was pretty obvious. It's also very obvious that the dimension A schism at CIA is desperate to know what the heck dimension B has. They're freaking out. Somebody's freaking out, but here's the thing that was interesting and I have other reports that talk about this, especially with Schiff coming out saying, I don't understand why he went to the White House. He did this, he did that. Can we just for 40 seconds, just give you the little bit of newness so people have some context? Okay, let's do that. Because there's been a lot of reporting. Ignore everything you heard. We've sifted through the crap for you, please. We've sifted through it for you.

24:15 This is the most important part. And I'll say Nunes, just to give you some context, is the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, but he's a Republican and he was also on the Trump transition team, which gives him a lack of credibility, of course. So first, I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions, the intelligence community incidentally collected information about US citizens involved in the Trump transition. Details about US persons associated with the incoming administration, details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value, were widely disseminated in intelligence community reporting. Third, I have confirmed that additional names of Trump transition team members were unmasked. And fourth and finally, I want to be clear, none of this surveillance was related to Russia,

25:04 or the investigation of Russian activities, or of the Trump team. Ruh-roh! So here's where everyone's brain starts to fry. Didn't Comey specifically say that there was an investigation of the entire campaign? Yeah. Okay. Well, it was kind of, he kind of didn't say it with much assertion. He just said it. Kind of, I don't know if he said it on purpose or what. It was very sketchy. We don't have that clip. But now that you brought Nunes in, I want to do... I got two things.

25:43 two clips. One is the PBS and you left the end of that clip off which is great because I have that part. Because I have that connected to this clip which is this is the PBS, this is Judy on Nunes and she reaches and she makes this, it's too long but she has a conclusion at the end that I want to rebuke There was word tonight that U.S. agencies may have intercepted communications by Trump transition officials. The chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, said it happened during legal surveillance of foreign nationals. Nunes briefed the president at the White House today and said the information is not related to any contacts with the Russians.

CHAPTER 10 / 49 Discussion

Adam Schiff Criticism, Devin Nunes White House Briefing

Representative Adam Schiff criticized Chairman Devin Nunes for briefing the White House on intelligence findings before sharing them with the full committee. Meanwhile, media outlets like PBS reported that Nunes denied evidence of wiretapping, though the hosts point out that Nunes actually called such surveillance "possible." Rumors also circulate regarding a Russian gambling ring in Trump Tower as a potential pretext for the monitoring.

adam schiff· devin nunes· judy woodruff· pbs newshour· surveillance· wiretapping· trump tower

25:04 or the investigation of Russian activities, or of the Trump team. Ruh-roh! So here's where everyone's brain starts to fry. Didn't Comey specifically say that there was an investigation of the entire campaign? Yeah. Okay. Well, it was kind of, he kind of didn't say it with much assertion. He just said it. Kind of, I don't know if he said it on purpose or what. It was very sketchy. We don't have that clip. But now that you brought Nunes in, I want to do... I got two things.

25:43 two clips. One is the PBS and you left the end of that clip off which is great because I have that part. Because I have that connected to this clip which is this is the PBS, this is Judy on Nunes and she reaches and she makes this, it's too long but she has a conclusion at the end that I want to rebuke There was word tonight that U.S. agencies may have intercepted communications by Trump transition officials. The chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, said it happened during legal surveillance of foreign nationals. Nunes briefed the president at the White House today and said the information is not related to any contacts with the Russians.

26:28 It has nothing to do with Russia and nothing to do with the Russia investigation. It has everything to do with possible surveillance activities, and the president needs to know that these intelligence reports are out there, and I have a duty to tell him that. Nunes says he believes the intercepts may have been improperly included in intelligence reports. The chairman did share the information with the ranking Democrat on the intelligence panel before going public. That is representative, or rather he did not share it with him, and that is representative Adam Schiff of California. The chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct

27:07 which includes allegations of potential coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians, or he is going to act as a surrogate of the White House because he cannot do both. Chairman Nunes repeated today that there is still no evidence for the president's claim that he was wiretapped. But Mr. Trump said he feels quote somewhat vindicated by this disclosure. Okay now she says at the end that Nunes indicated there's no evidence that Trump was wiretapped but she didn't have a clip. Right. She just said it. Just said it, yeah. That's just a tag, it's a throwaway so you cover your ass but the story stands. Yes, unfortunately she's full of shit.

27:52 timecode. This is newness, this is the same kind of the same clip you had, but this one he kind of did the same thing over and over, but he came out on the White House lawn. Right. And he made this as his little commentary there at the very end. You can barely hear, but you can hear it. Does this mean that Trump's wiretap thing is right or wrong? And then he answers that. in a very vague way, not what she said, which was that he denied it. What I've read seems to me to be some level of surveillance activity, perhaps legal, but I don't know that it's right and I don't know that the American people would be comfortable with what I've read, but let us get all the reports. It is possible.

28:43 Wait a minute. That's his comment. What exactly, what exactly was the question? I couldn't hear it. There was two questions asked at the same time. Was Trump right when he says he was being tapped? Ah, he says that's possible. And he says that's possible, which is not what Judy said. You know, I heard- He said he denied it. I got a whole nother, uh, I don't have a clip, but I did get an article that apparently there were Russian, a Russian gambling, this is a great one, a Russian gambling ring in Trump Tower. And that's what they were listening in on. Oh, that's cool. So that by the way would be a stingray. That would be a stingray right out front of Trump Tower. It's a little different, yeah. Now here's what I'm thinking about this whole thing about Nunes going straight to the president and not going to Schiff. You'd think that he would at least share it with the ranking member.

29:30 I believe that he doesn't trust Schiff and he doesn't trust any of these people and figured that if he brought it up at the committee at the closed session... He'd be killed. Exactly. He'd be killed. So he ran over to the White House and got in front of I'm sure more than one person. and delivered this information directly to the White House so now he's done, he's covered. At least he won't be killed. But I don't think he trusts Schiff and Schiff looks like the kind of guy that is in deep with someone. I don't like Schiff at all. I want to get to Schiff. I want to get to Schiff. But since we correctly recall, he doesn't want to get killed. This was a fantastic piece of reporting. It's from about a week and a half ago.

CHAPTER 11 / 49 Discussion

Seth Rich Murder Investigation, Russian Hacking Theory

Lobbyist Jack Berkman appeared on a Washington D.C. Fox affiliate claiming new evidence in the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. Berkman suggests Rich was killed by Russian operatives after discovering they had hacked the DNC. The hosts discuss how this narrative contributes to the political schism, noting Julian Assange's previous interest in the case.

seth rich· dnc· jack berkman· fox news· julian assange· russian hacking· conspiracy

30:16 This is the Washington DC Fox affiliate talking with a GOP lobbyist, Jack Berkman. I don't know who he is, but for some reason he's on talking about what happened to Seth Rich. You'll remember Seth Rich was the DNC staffer who was robbed or two to the head.

30:54 who's put up reward money in this case says he has new evidence linking Rich's murder to Rich's discovery that Russian operatives had hacked the DNC. All right, Jack joins us live in the studio with more this morning. Good to see you once again. All right, break down... Like a spy novel. Yes, exactly. It does, it does. I wish I had. It's kind of a... It's a morbid subject, but it's a hopeful subject because finally some progress and it's my job to bring closure to the family. That's what I'm trying to do. You get a lot of crank calls in this type of role. I've done this sort of stuff before, it's just part of the job, but I think I have something credible here. Was approached by a guy who styles himself as a former US Intel officer. I quizzed him, I think he's credible. You never know motive of people. But what he said is basically this, that Seth discovered that the Russians had been hacking and therefore the Russian government did away with Seth. Now, one of the things that... This is the ultimate in schism.

31:50 This is fan... well, I don't think... I think this is just disinformation. I don't even know if there's a schism angle here. No, but the schism will... I mean, when people get a hold of this story, which I don't... it doesn't seem like they are going to... Oh yeah, one of the sides will take this. Oh, the Russians killed him. No, Hillary killed him. I mean, it's perfect. It's exactly... Well, it creates this... right, it adds to the schism. This gives a menace the Russians and Russians the Russians killed him because he figured out they were hacking him really And the friend do we have to remember that this guy who we suspected was the real guy who hacked into the? DNC yeah, and they shot him for it and

32:34 This is the guy and then when Julian Assange was grilled about this, he says, well, we don't say who our people are that give us stuff. But then he put up a big fund for the guy. Exactly. Schiff, we'll get into Schiff now. And why would he, by the way, and why would he do that? I don't see Julian Assange putting up a fund for anybody else. No, of course not. It's obvious. Schiff was on Chip Tuck Show. What is it? MTP Daily. Chip Tuck. And here's his version. And of course, he winds up with what everybody really wants because once you have an independent investigation, you know, we started off with white water on Bill Clinton, we wound up with Monica Lewinsky. That's how you get a president out. All you have right now is a circumstantial case.

CHAPTER 12 / 49 Discussion

Adam Schiff Collusion Claims, GCHQ Denial Language

Representative Adam Schiff told Chuck Todd on MSNBC that there is "more than circumstantial evidence" of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, though he declined to provide specifics. The hosts analyze the language used by GCHQ regarding surveillance allegations, noting the agency calls the claims "ridiculous" rather than issuing a flat denial.

adam schiff· chuck todd· gchq· collusion· evidence· intelligence

33:23 Actually, no, Chuck. I can tell you that the case is more than that. And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. So, again, I think... So you have seen direct evidence of collusion? I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial. I love this. But what do you have? I can't talk about it. And is very much worthy of investigation. So that is what we ought to do. Now again, I think we have been dealt a serious body blow to the credibility of our ability to get answers by today's events. And to me it underscores the importance of having an independent commission look at this as a supplement to anything that Congress does. Now there's something else going on. Do you want to stay on shift for a minute? Because I have some legislative stuff that pertains to it. But if you want to stay on shift? Yeah, stay on shift. Well, do you have something for shift? Oh, I thought you had something. Well, probably, but it sounded like you had something.

34:26 I'm good with where you're headed. I just want to mention that there's a number of, there's one of our producers said anything about GHCQ and I think this is what he's Said it was reflective of what Schiff said where he wouldn't answer the question. Do you have you seen something? That's that's credible and criminal and he says well, I can't Our producer pointed out that GCHQ when going to accuse them sending this information over said it's ridiculous This shouldn't even be thought of that we could even think of such a thing. They never denied it right there was no Exactly, you're right and that was based on the clip

35:05 that we played on the last show and whenever people ask the question they don't say no they say it's ridiculous yeah they don't say no you that we have to keep an eye out for that we do this is what we just heard right here he did not say yes and both of us being fathers we should be much more tuned into this i'm we're slacking on our on our skills because this is what kids do all the time yeah that's what you do yeah you lie but you don't lie you say that's crazy dad that's nuts i wouldn't have taken your car and dented it So, then I thought that was a good catch because we didn't catch it. We should have caught it. The GCHQ never denied it. They just said it was ridiculous. It is. It is ridiculous. They're right. But it doesn't mean they didn't do it. Anyway, onward. I got a clip here from Dianne Feinstein and there was a lot of demonstrations and press conferences on the steps of the Capitol and everyone was doing something.

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Dianne Feinstein Interview, Emoluments Clause Confusion

Senator Dianne Feinstein discussed potential legislation regarding presidential conflicts of interest and the Emoluments Clause. During the interview, she appeared to mispronounce the term as the "emollients clause," leading to host banter about skin moisturizers. The discussion also touches on media bias and the business dealings of Hunter Biden in Ukraine.

diane feinstein· emoluments clause· conflict of interest· hunter biden· joe biden· legislation

35:57 And I think these are reporters who are asking these questions of her. But when you even just hearing the question from the reporters and how they respond to Feinstein's answers, you know, they're all like, well, Trump is a crazy a-hole. What are you going to do about him? You know, that's their interview question. And her answer was equally as interesting. I thought Here with this Yeah, there's too many things he's doing, how do we get him out? Yeah, I've been doing so many things unconstitutional, it's racist, how do we get him out? Well, we have a lot of people looking at this, technical people, and I think he's gonna get himself out. I think the creation... Did you hear this? The reporter said yay. Yay!

36:55 And I think he's gonna get himself out. I think creation, I think sending sons to another country. And people wonder why shows like No Agenda are important. It's like, wow. Yay! the creation, I think sending sons to another country to make a financial deal for his company. And then- Are they talking about Joe Biden? Is that what they're talking about? Yeah, probably. financial deal for his company. You mean Hunter Biden? Hunter who went over Ukraine and is running the big show. We're involved in all of that. Or maybe one of those stooges that are down in Haiti and they got all the gold concessions? Yeah, maybe one of those things. I think they're talking about. Is that what they're talking about? I think so. Yes, I think so. Financial deal for his company and then have that covered with government expenses.

37:50 I believe those government expenses should not be allowed. And we are working—let me finish—we are working on a bill that would do that now. We're working on a couple of bills that would deal with conflict of interest right now. It's difficult because this is— A field that relates to some extent to the emollients clause of the Constitution. Now did she say emollients clause? She said emollient. What is emollient? Is that a new word or does that mean something completely different? I think there is a word for emollient. It's emoluments. Something you rub in maybe? Wait let's look at this. Emolients? Yeah, emolients. She said emolients, right? Because this is a field that relates to some extent to the emolients clause. Yes, that's eczema. It's right here! Emolients. What are they and how can we use them? Oh, okay, so it helps with... Yeah, some of you rub in. It's a salve.

38:51 Solve is a salve. It's a salve. Yeah, it's a moisturizer basically. Yeah, it has to do with the moisturizer moisturizer clause This is the law of ole is what we're talking about here And there's no proceeding legislation to do this. But we've got good people looking at it and we're going to some of the ethicists along the line that are well known. The law of emollients, now with microbeads. So one of the things that I found is one of the bills she's talking about. HR 356, to establish the National Commission on Foreign Interference in the 2016 election. Now there's a lot of Republicans who signed on to this as well.

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HR 356, National Commission on Foreign Interference

The hosts examine HR 356, a bill proposed to establish a national commission to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. The legislation targets electronic hacks of the DNC, John Podesta, and Colin Powell, as well as the dissemination of "false news." The hosts argue the bill's scope is overly broad and targets standard propaganda efforts.

hr 356· russian interference· john podesta· colin powell· dnc· hacking· legislation

39:38 The Republicans are, there's as many Republicans that are on the side of the Democrats as you can imagine. The purpose of this bill to activities of Russian government, the purpose of the commission is to examine any attempts or activities by the Russian government persons or entities associated with the Russian government or persons or entities within Russia to use electronic means to influence, interfere with, or sow distrust in the elections for public office held in the United States in 2016. Well, duh! Of course, we all do that. But let's list it. Number one, including the following. Electronic hacks by the government, Russian government, persons or entities associated with the Russian government, or other persons or entities within Russia, into...

40:24 A, the electronic systems of the Democratic National Committee, the electronic systems of the Democratic Congressional Campaign, the electronic systems of Mr. John Podesta, campaign chairman for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, the electronic systems of former Secretary of State Colin Powell, and the electronic systems of Arizona, Illinois, and Florida, particularly voter database information. efforts by the Russian government, persons or entities associated with the Russian government, or persons or entities within Russia to put forward, disseminate, or promote false news about the campaigns for election for public office held in the United States in 2016, and efforts by the Russian government to work with other governments, entities, and individuals to carry out activities described in the paragraphs above.

41:06 So there's going to be a paid panel, a paid committee, and it's this is pretty much your independent commission here that is going to investigate all of this. But if you just look at how broad it is, well, of course, you can look at Russia today and say, well, yeah, they're propaganda. So yes, OK, good work. We found something. I don't understand. In fact, I got to play the second bit of that. Larry Johnson, he said something very interesting about RT. Now remember, this is the media show with Brian Seltzerwater on CNN. And he says something that we've talked about many times on this show. as to why RT maybe isn't such a propagandistic outfit as, I don't know, CNN. Here's the irony of this, Brian. You know, one of the main claims that came out of the report that was issued in early January claiming, oh, Russia was meddling in our election and one of their main vehicles was Russia Today,

CHAPTER 15 / 49 Discussion

Larry Johnson on RT Influence, Media Pre-Interviews

Larry Johnson argued on CNN that Russia Today (RT) has negligible influence on American voters compared to domestic networks. He highlighted a key difference in production: RT does not conduct "pre-interviews" to vet guest opinions, whereas U.S. networks like the BBC and CNBC often use them to ensure guests fit a specific narrative. The hosts share personal anecdotes about being bumped from segments for having non-conforming views.

larry johnson· russia today· cnn· brian stelter· cnbc· media bias· propaganda

42:00 I spoke on Russia Today two weeks ago. This thing didn't surface until Judge Napolitano brought it out. Now, if Russia Today was so influential... You're saying Russia Today is not that influential? I'm telling you that's the truth. I mean, who watches it? The fact that I spoke about it two weeks ago and it didn't even surface, it wasn't even a blip. anywhere in the US news media. And so I guarantee if people like yourself who are very informed, very up to speed on things don't pick up on something like that, you expect a coal miner in Pennsylvania, an auto worker in Michigan, that they're going to be on top of Russia today? Excuse me, you can't.

42:37 You can't even get it here on Verizon Files in the DC area. Well, I can get it on Spectrum here in New York, but let me ask you about Russia today. He's pointing out something really good here. He's like, no one watches the damn channel. But OK. It's appropriate for any American to appear on a Kremlin propaganda network. Well, it's not a Kremlin propaganda network. You know what the fundamental difference I found in appearing on Russia Today as opposed to CNN? And CNN and on MSNBC and on Fox, remember I was fired from Fox back in the, my contract was not renewed in 2003 because I had the audacity to go on the Hannity and Combs show in November of 2002 and say going into Iraq would be a diversion in the war on terror.

43:19 I was told subsequently that Roger Ailes didn't like that, wanted me off air. So I've had quite a bit of experience with media. What I found the difference with Russia today is they don't do pre-interviews. I've done pre-interviews with your people. I've done pre-interviews in the past when I've appeared on other networks. Just two days ago, I did a pre-interview with the BBC. They were going to have me on air, but once they heard what I had to say, they came back and said, oh, no, we don't need to use you now. This is what we've said many times. It's an absolute fact. You've had that happen to you. Oh yeah, all the time. Yeah, me too. And I used to do a lot of work for CNBC and I've done other stuff too. I've worked ABC, NBC, but CNBC was what I was doing a lot of work for for about a year or two when I was at MarketWatch. And they always call you up and they ask you what you want. This is how I got my tit in the ring over a couple of things because I'm so... Hold on, hold on, hold on, write that down.

44:13 That is one of our idioms, American idioms. Tit in a ringer. Yeah. Believe me, only person I know who says that is you. Well, it could catch on. Sexist! Anyway, they'll tell you, you know, we're going to talk about this, what can you tell me? And you're talking to the producer, and you say, well, I can talk about this and that. We don't have anybody taking the other side of this argument. Is there any way you can? This was my job. Right, right. Generally my job in general. Yeah, I can. No problem. I can take that position. Okay, great, great. Okay, we'll put you on. You'll be called about 115 and that's where she's probably the segment will start about. No, but they do it differently, John. It's like, okay, Dan's going to be the host and he's going to ask you this. Didn't they add that all that information exactly what the toss to you is and everything? No. Okay. No, they don't do that.

45:13 There's no reason to go that far, it seems to me. But one of the things that always galled me about CNBC was, we'll call you at 115 and you'll be on, we'll bring the segment on at 130. And then you're on, and then they bring on Kramer, the chatterbox, and he yaks and yaks until 10 minutes to the hour. And we're sitting there, what is this? And then they finally put us on, or they bump us. Yeah, anyway, and you didn't get paid. I'm sure no I did get paid, but I got paid by by Market Watch not by CNN right right well anyway this this disseminating false information Propaganda is very very bad. It's very very very bad for America as as discussed and explained explained twerp splained by Susan Rice who

CHAPTER 16 / 49 Discussion

Susan Rice Media Tour, Obama Administration Micromanagement

Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice appeared on PBS to criticize the Trump administration's factual accuracy and its impact on global credibility. When questioned about President Obama's reputation for micromanaging the military, Rice defended his "commander-in-chief" role while discussing recent operations in Yemen and Syria. The hosts characterize her appearances as an effort to protect Obama's legacy.

susan rice· barack obama· pbs newshour· judy woodruff· yemen· syria· national security

46:06 Has come out of the woodworks the United States of America is the leading power in the world our friends and our adversaries Respect us in large measure because they know that we are steady. We are fact-based. We are serious major She says fact-based fact, but we're fact-based. We're fact-based because they know that we are steady We are fact-based. We are she says fact-based She says fact base. Fact base. She didn't say fact. No, she says fact. Fact base. She says fact. Fact base. Fact base, bitches. We are steady. We are fact base. We are serious. And when we have the White House of the United States

46:42 It's putting out information that everybody can see to be inaccurate, if not deliberately false. It shakes the credibility and the confidence of our allies, and it lends doubt to our adversaries who may miscalculate. And it undermines the confidence of the American people in what comes out of the White House, which is very detrimental in the event we have a national crisis and we need to rally around the flag. No, no, no, you shut up. Don't talk through it. She said the most beautiful thing at the end. What did she say? I don't know, play it again. ...who may miscalculate and it undermines the confidence of the American people in what comes out of the White House, which is very detrimental in the event we have a national crisis and we need to rally around the flag. Oh yeah, she said the same thing on, since you brought her in, you've opened the line of questioning. Hold on, stop, stop! I gotta rally around the flag for a second. Okay, well you... Okay, I just rallied around the flag.

47:42 She was on, you're right, she showed up and she's making the rounds and she's showing up everywhere. For some reason she's a stooge representing someone, I have no idea who, but she is out there to protect Obama's legacy. There's that element. So, so she comes on Woodruff on the PBS NewsHour and they do an interview, which is, you know, I think it was kind of rehearsal, maybe not fully like the other one we heard, but it comes down to the, at the end. I think, Judy asked her a question, well you know, Trump is going to give more control of the military to the Pentagon, let them go do their thing, as opposed to what Obama did. And Obama is being accused of being a micromanager. He micromanaged everything. And they didn't mention the kill list that he personally approved. The Tuesday kill list meeting, yeah. I think this guy should be dead. Yes, kill him.

48:40 So, she asked that question of Rice, and Rice can't say no. She doesn't deny that he was a micromanager, and then kind of just explains why he was a micromanager without ever really saying. that he was a micromanager. I just found this a fascinating bunch of bull crap. The last thing I want to ask you about is a decision that was announced or that appears to have been made by this administration to shift more authority over military operations to the Pentagon in the context of criticism that under President Obama there was too much micromanaging out of the White House about everything that happened that the military did.

49:22 Well, I think that criticism is a well-trodden line. I've heard it many times. And I think the fact is this. President Obama took very, very seriously his role as commander in chief. Now, you know, when things go wrong, as unfortunately, tragically, they did in Yemen recently, during the first military raid of this administration, When we're trying to figure out what just happened in Syria with respect to a bombing that caused a number of civilian casualties—some say it was a mosque, we say it wasn't—it's very important that the commander-in-chief own responsibility for decisions such as that and is willing to say to the men and women in uniform, that was my choice, and not blame it on others, whether the commanders or

50:09 people below him. Former National Security Advisor to President Obama, Susan Rice. Thank you very much. Good to be with you, Judy. What a see you next Tuesday. That was Obama's op! No kidding. That was Obama's op. Yeah. Oh man, she's a horrible person. Oh, she is. Amidst all of this, John, I have some new information. New shit has come to light. Come to light? It has, but it's really old information, and we're gonna go back to 2013 to get this information. I want you to be queen. My love for you is almost obscene.

50:48 I really hope you know what I mean. Maxine. That's right, everybody. Maxine Waters. Who knew she was great? Starting four years ago, she was already fantastic. This is Maxine Waters talking about something that the president was doing just right around the time of his re-election, President Obama. And just listen to how she characterizes the database. that contains the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That's going to be very, very powerful and whoever... In terms of the Organizing for America that he's now shifting to become a 501c4. That's right. That's right. And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it's never been done before. And whoever runs for president on the Democratic ticket have to deal with that. They're going to have to go down

CHAPTER 17 / 49 Discussion

Maxine Waters 2013 Comments, Obama OFA Database

A 2013 clip of Representative Maxine Waters resurfaces in which she describes a powerful database built by President Obama's "Organizing for America" (OFA). Waters claimed the database contained unprecedented levels of information on individuals that future Democratic candidates would have to utilize. The hosts speculate on whether this private database contains sensitive government information.

maxine waters· barack obama· organizing for america· 501c4· database· voter data

50:09 people below him. Former National Security Advisor to President Obama, Susan Rice. Thank you very much. Good to be with you, Judy. What a see you next Tuesday. That was Obama's op! No kidding. That was Obama's op. Yeah. Oh man, she's a horrible person. Oh, she is. Amidst all of this, John, I have some new information. New shit has come to light. Come to light? It has, but it's really old information, and we're gonna go back to 2013 to get this information. I want you to be queen. My love for you is almost obscene.

50:48 I really hope you know what I mean. Maxine. That's right, everybody. Maxine Waters. Who knew she was great? Starting four years ago, she was already fantastic. This is Maxine Waters talking about something that the president was doing just right around the time of his re-election, President Obama. And just listen to how she characterizes the database. that contains the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That's going to be very, very powerful and whoever... In terms of the Organizing for America that he's now shifting to become a 501c4. That's right. That's right. And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it's never been done before. And whoever runs for president on the Democratic ticket have to deal with that. They're going to have to go down

51:55 with that database and the concerns of those people because they can't get around it. And he's been very smart. I mean, it's very powerful what he's leaving in place. And I think that's what any Democratic candidate is going to have to deal with. Now, I ask myself, what does he even mean by this? She said, by the way, the OFA is the operation that now has that database. Yes, exactly. I'm on their mailing list. The question is, she said they built this in ways nobody's ever seen. They got all the information. Did they get any information that was maybe government information? Do you think it's just all Google stuff? And how creepy is it? It's totally creepy. There's no doubt in my mind they've got government files in there because it's like the guy who works for a company, you're working for some big corporation, you have your Rolodex. When you get hired to another corporation, the idea is that you're going to bring that Rolodex with you because you're a sales guy, let's say.

52:53 So there's no doubt that whatever information they've accumulated while he was president over four, eight years, they've got it. They've got all of it and they, you know, it's horrible. I don't like it. The fact of the matter is this liberal will be all about socializing. Vaccine. Hello? Water. Scumbag. Vaccine. Vaccine. Vaccine. Water. All right, Maxine. There's some about the scream in there that makes it worthwhile doesn't it? Yeah, exactly Let me see what I've got here for but we got some other stuff, but there's a tons of stuff There's some minor newness comments on CBS which I have on here as a clip And I wouldn't put it on there unless I had something to say about it, okay

CHAPTER 18 / 49 Discussion

Andrew Sullivan Career Shift, Independent Media Models

The hosts discuss the career of blogger Andrew Sullivan, who famously left The Atlantic to start a successful independent subscription-based site. Despite reportedly earning significant revenue, Sullivan eventually shuttered the independent venture to return to traditional publications. The hosts analyze the difficulties of maintaining independent media models and Sullivan's shift toward vocal opposition to Donald Trump.

andrew sullivan· the atlantic· blogging· paywalls· independent media· subscriptions

53:45 Which one is that? It's called some Nunes comments. I thought you said PBS. You said CBS. Gotcha. I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions, the intelligence community incidentally collected information about US citizens involved in the Trump transition. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said he had seen about a dozen intercepted communications involving members of the Trump transition team. That may mean either Trump associates or Trump himself were in contact with foreigners under surveillance, or the foreigners were discussing the Trump team. I believe it was all done legally. Nunes' committee is investigating Russian interference in the election, but the chairman said the reports did not involve Russia. Okay, we had that one already, sorry. Yeah, that's alright.

54:31 If you want to split off a little bit and go off to another... Hold on, I think I have one more thing here. I have one more too, which is I have Andrew Sullivan, which I kind of teased in the newsletter. Oh yeah, yeah, I want to see this. Now, Sullivan, who was a big... Now wait, isn't this the guy who's anti-internet? Isn't that this guy? No, Andrew Sullivan is the famous... Oh, the blogger. gay blogger who was a Republican. I don't see how you can be a Republican and be gay. And he was like defended the conservatives forever. He was always on, used to be on Bill Maher's show a lot. And he, then he was the guy, this is kind of interesting. He was the guy who decided to quit. He was working for the Atlantic. I think he had his blog on the Atlantic.

55:20 He decided he was going to start a newsletter, his own website. This was about... Oh, I remember this. And he was one of the first people to start charging for it. And he started charging for it and it was like... Celebrity. He was a web celebrity. It was like 20 bucks a month or 10 bucks a month. It was something. Yeah, it was big time. And then he, and he was supposedly from the numbers that they were throwing around, I looked at it because I remember when this happened and I was like, holy crap, this guy's making a million dollars on this newsletter. with subscriptions and this is pre-Patreon and pre-structure. He did the whole thing on his own and I was stunned. Well, he also made an outstanding product for the audience. He was a good, he was and still is a good writer. Yeah, that's the trick. That's the big secret. It helps.

56:11 And then all of a sudden he quits and goes to work for some publication. I know they're not paying him a million, nobody does that. I mean, if you're top dog, you get $120,000 maybe if you're lucky. And I don't even know if that's true anymore. It's more like 80. And so why would you quit a million dollar little operation? All you're doing is just what you've always done. You write and you collect money. I thought from the beginning that this wasn't gonna work because the public is just not used to these sort of models like ours, for example, took us a while. But still it was, it seemed like he wasn't making anything. He was like starving to death. He had to go back to work. Then suddenly becomes a Democrat

CHAPTER 19 / 49 Discussion

Andrew Sullivan Tavis Smiley Interview, Trump Handshake Controversy

Andrew Sullivan appeared on the Tavis Smiley Show to claim President Trump is "psychologically unwell" and "clinically delusional." He cited Trump's supposed refusal to shake German Chancellor Angela Merkel's hand as evidence of "childish" behavior. The hosts debunk this narrative, noting that Trump shook Merkel's hand multiple times during the visit and that the media focused on a single awkward moment.

andrew sullivan· tavis smiley· angela merkel· donald trump· handshakes· media memes

56:51 voted for Obama in 2008, voted for Obama in 2012, a huge Hillary supporter. I remember that too, yeah. I'm with her. He was one of those guys. And so he's incredibly butt hurt. by Trump in the election. And so he's like now he's whining about it and he's using the same memes and I find them extremely offensive these memes but let's listen to what he has to say on Tavis Smiley Show. eyes, right? We can see... Now if someone we came across in real life started telling you that this is a beautiful purple set, that we're living on these amazing red couches here and isn't it great? Isn't it? And you'd be like, okay... And you'd slowly kind of walk out of the room and try and stay away from that person. But unfortunately we can't stay away from this person. He's in our lives. And he is, to my mind, I don't mind going there, he's psychologically unwell.

57:51 And let's put it that way. I mean, he's clearly not a well person. If you, if he'd been appointed the CEO of a publicly traded company on January 20th and it behaved this way, the board would have removed him by now. Easily. Within a day. You can't represent a big organization and keep telling untruths, let alone a country like the United, let alone the leading power in the world. So how do we cover that? I think we cover it the way we see it. And I think we have to be not afraid to say, this is bonkers. This isn't just wrong. There is something really wrong here. This is not normal. There are lies that politicians have always told. They spin, they put a top spin on it, they say things they don't really mean, they exaggerate what they do, all that goes on. We know that and we can point that out. But to actually be clinically delusional

58:50 to be saying things that are just completely untrue and then to treat our relations with other countries in this petty, childish way. I mean, like with Merkel, probably the most important figure in Europe at this point, to sit there and refuse to shake her hand in public. I mean, what is that? It's a child. It's like a child, a toddler. You have to tell to take a time out. It is, this is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to do the show anymore. It just makes me so... That's what I'm watching all day. All day. Yeah, when he clearly shook her hand more than once. It was at one moment. So annoying. Yeah, this is very interesting to me. And then this guy being one of the... He's obviously in that dimension. Dimension B. But is it really... I mean, there's so much evidence to the contrary. So much evidence to the contrary.

59:51 What I put it in the newsletter I made it I've made a very strong point in the newsletter about this shaking the hand thing you bring it up to one of these dimension B people Hillbots or whatever you want to call them advertising you you bring it up and they go well when he was seated That's that's when they wanted him to shake her hand right right and and so that's what matters and oh yeah sure he shook her hand when he saw her and he shook her hand when he So really what the media is complaining about is that he didn't dance like a monkey boy when they wanted him to. Which is my point, yeah. They wanted him to dance the monkey boy dance. He wouldn't do it and so he didn't shake her hand. And he probably, and probably he did that indeed as a petulant child, like screw you, I'm not gonna do that.

1:00:36 So partially right, but I would, you know, it's like when people... By the way, I want to say the petulant child thing is a meme that they're promoting. This is the latest. First he's insane, now he's acting like a kid. Yeah, but when you say it about Obama, then you're racist. Remember that? when Romney said he's a petulant child and everyone went, racist! Child means boy, boy means negro, racist! Don't you remember that? Yeah, I do remember that. I remember the connection between one word and another. Wait a minute, let me see if I can find that. Because it's crazy that, you know, this is, this is completely, the whole thing is racist. Oh, petulant. How do I spell petulant? P-E-T-U. That's what I did.

1:01:19 Oh man. I clipped is probably misspelled. Yeah. How about PET? Maybe I'll get under PET. Nah, I don't think so. Petrol and Shiloh. Darn it, we'll have to find that. But yeah, when Romney said that in the debates about Obama, it was Romney I think. It was Romney. Yeah, it was the last election. Not the most recent one, the one before it. It could be. Was it? I don't remember now. Romney was the last before, yeah. Now I want to mention Andrew Sullivan is also not an American. He's a meddlesome Brit. Does he live here? Like J.K. Rowling, who is like

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Tim Allen Jimmy Kimmel Interview, Hollywood Political Climate

Actor Tim Allen appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live and compared the current political climate in Hollywood to 1930s Germany. Allen described the pressure to conform to specific liberal beliefs and the backlash faced by those who attended the presidential inauguration. The hosts praise Allen for speaking out about the exclusionary nature of the entertainment industry.

tim allen· jimmy kimmel· hollywood· 1930s germany· inauguration· conservatism

1:01:57 Making more commentary about Trump than anyone in the United States is and she's a Brit. Yeah, oh shit, but they're also both I think Sullivan and Rowling's were were anti brexit so they're internationalists which is really kind of discouraging So while you did that side I have dimension a on the Jimmy Kimmel show Tim Allen who I predicted his career would be over and And he still gets a spot on Kimmel. I thought that was kind of nice. It's nice to bring back a guy who really will never work again in Hollywood based on his... And he probably didn't help himself here. You went to the presidential inauguration, right? I was invited by... We did a VIP thing for the vets and went to the veterans ball. And so I went to go see the Democrats and Republicans. Yeah, I went to the inauguration. I'm not attacking you. You get this now.

1:02:49 You gotta be real careful around here, you know, you get beat up. If you don't believe what everybody believes, this is like 30s Germany. I don't know what happened. If you're not part of the group, you know what we believe is right. They go, well, I might have a problem with that. Yeah, I heard that. I love that. I love that. 30s Germany. A little clip here before the break. This is from a podcast, a video podcast. America's lawyer, Mike Pompant, Papantonio. There you go. Mike Papantonio, America's lawyer.

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Mike Papantonio, Pharmaceutical Influence on Media Boards

Attorney Mike Papantonio highlights the deep ties between major media outlets and the pharmaceutical industry. He notes that with the exception of CBS, every major U.S. media outlet shares board members with pharmaceutical giants like Merck or Pfizer. This overlap, combined with $5 billion in annual advertising spend, allegedly prevents critical reporting on drug companies.

mike papantonio· big pharma· pharmaceutical industry· media ownership· advertising· cbs

1:03:27 And it was just this one particular opening that he did of one of his recent shows that I thought was worthy of sharing. With the exception of CBS, every major media outlet in the United States shares at least one board member with at least one pharmaceutical company. Let me put that into perspective. These board members wake up, they go to a meeting at Merck or Pfizer, then they have their driver take them over to a meeting with NBC to decide what kind of programming that network is going to air. And for those board members who aren't pulling double duty with a media conglomerate and a big drug company, they still understand that they can't be mean to Big Pharma because Big Pharma pays their bills. Drug companies spend about $5 billion a year on advertising with these media outlets.

1:04:14 So, when you have a case against Pfizer or Merck or Eli Lilly or any of the other major pharmaceutical companies, do you think those board members are going to let you get on the air and tell a story that's bad about what they do? Or are you naive enough to believe that they really don't interfere with the day-to-day operation? Stuff that we talk about all the time, but I was- We talk about all the time. I was unaware of the board seats. That's all I knew there's voices. I thought CBS had one to CBS of course which is and I want to follow that clip with a clip Okay, CBS of course we believe to be the Central Intelligence Agency Broadcasting system yes, sir, and so they had Remember Chuck Chuck Barrett died Chuck. Yeah. He was from the the gong show gong show For our non get mo nation listeners

CHAPTER 22 / 49 Discussion

Chuck Barris Obituary, CIA Assassin Claims

The hosts reflect on the death of "The Gong Show" creator Chuck Barris at age 87. They discuss his controversial claim of being a CIA assassin, which was the subject of his book and the film "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind." They critique the CBS obituary for omitting his intelligence claims, which they view as a significant part of his public persona.

chuck barris· the gong show· cia· confessions of a dangerous mind· george clooney· obituary

1:05:06 The Gong Show, arguably one of the first talent shows like America's Got Talent, which was a great format and later turned into crap and then it kind of got revitalized and turned into crap again. You had people performing on stage and of course they were all selected, the kooky wacky, and you get gonged out instead of a buzzer or X's or whatever. So it's one of the originals. Yeah, there's a gong, just a big gong. A big gong. Where's your gong? The acts are always kind of flaky and you won 500 bucks if you won the show. It's a very popular show and Chuck Beres was the host. He also invented the dating game and the newlywed game and a couple of other shows. Just letting you know that the gong, got my gong. Oh, that's a gong. He had written a book, it's kind of his biography called Confessions of Something or Other. And he was portrayed in a George Clooney movie as this character. He was a CIA assassin. Oh, that was the game show or something? What was that movie called? No, it wasn't a game show. It was something like Confessions of Something or Other. I'd have to look it up.

1:06:10 But it was a very famous book and he claimed to be, with sincerity, a CIA assassin. And he documented it. Who he killed and what he's working for and all this stuff. And then nobody's, you know, everyone rolled their eyes and didn't take it too seriously. But it was one of the most important things that he did. It would be one of the things that he did that was noteworthy. And they mentioned it everywhere. Everybody mentioned it. It's kind of like he claimed it and they kind of chuckle about it. Confessions of a dangerous mind. Thank you, Charlie. So here is the CBS Obit. You mean the CIA Obit? Here's the CIA version of the Obit.

1:06:56 Chuck Beres produced two of TV's most popular game shows, the newlywed game and the dating game. But he's best known as host of one of the most bizarre shows ever to hit the airwaves, the Gong Show. Truly awful amateur acts competed for a prize of $516.32 if they could avoid the gong. Chuck Beres died yesterday. He was 87. Wow, thanks. What about his book? Yeah, you know the sad thing is when they realized they had to kill him They killed the wrong Chuck first and got Chuck Berry. It's really sad. Oops really? Oh man wrong guy. Oh boy well with that I'd like to thank you for courage to say in the morning to you John sweet

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No Agenda Episode 914 Donation Segment, Knighting Ceremony

Adam and John conduct the "Value-for-Value" donation segment, acknowledging high-tier producers and performing knighting ceremonies. Notable donors include Nicholas Haller (Sir Viv of the Virtual Reality), Grand Duke Dwayne Melanson, and Sir HMFIC. The hosts discuss the show's funding model, listener anecdotes, and the importance of direct support to maintain independence from corporate advertising.

no agenda· knighthood· donations· executive producers· value-for-value· crowdfunding

1:07:44 where the C stands for Chuck Dvorak. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the chat room, noagenstream.com. Very helpful today. Thank you. Good to have you all on board. And in the morning to Nick the Rad. He's usually also in the chat room. Thank you very much for the artwork, Nick, for episode 913. Title of that was toxic chat and this was the zoom in enhanced rotated target unidentifiable picture of Rachel Maddow from her high school yearbook, which I've shown to many people and can I say who is this? They don't know. They cannot tell you that you can see your face in there. Yeah.

1:08:24 Yeah, once again. So it was funny art. I liked it. It was yeah, it was very funny something different for sure Yeah, you know you're getting used a lot on the Nick the rat show I am yeah, we like clips. Yeah Oh, I haven't listened in a while Nick the rat is great. Oh, I know the show's fantastic in this no That's what you're saying on the show Well, let's help him out then hold on a second. Let's see if we can make it work for Nick all right We can one jingle then we can move on Nick the rat is great in the sewer. Now you can use that. Well let's thank a few people starting with Nicholas Haller. He did send a note which I will now go retrieve. And he has 914 which would be a 914 club member for today. He would be a 914 club member which is a big deal. Yes. And he writes

1:09:21 It's HALER. It's H-A-L-E-R. You got H-A-L-E-R. So it's HALER, I guess. ITM, gentlemen, with this donation, not only will I be ascending to knighthood, accounting below, do we... we probably not have done him on the list. I'll check. You keep going. Accounting below, I will finally be graduated from college. It's been a long journey to earn my engineering degree and I'm glad I was introduced to the show along the way. It probably does help college kids. It has definitely helped keep me sane as almost everyone I talk with is nonstop ridiculing President Trump and they seem unhappy. If available, please knight me as Sir Viv of the virtual reality and as spelled V-I-V-E. Wouldn't it be Vive?

1:10:09 Survive survive. It's a low loo survive of the virtual reality okay, and five is of course the virtual reality gear Yes, why do I know more about this than you? I don't know why I don't I'm not a big I don't follow the VR I don't either but somehow I know okay, okay I've been busted if unavailable please pick one of the names from my backup list below no, but that's a good good Please you're good to go also could I get an extra large serving of sake and sushi? Sake and since around table with wasabi and soy sauce on the side. Oh

1:10:47 Okay Sake and sushi with Wasabi and soy on the side soy sauce soy sauce on the side, okay? Thank you for the... I have ordered it from the kitchen. Good, it's about time. Thank you for the wonderful show and the enlightenment you bring. Karma all around and a douchebag call out to Josh Reed. Douchebag! For not yet donating yet. For not donating yet. Please play one of the... one of the suck it up buttercup jingles. Jingles now and another at the end of the show. I would like the Trump jobs karma.

1:11:29 So I can help validate if it works. Okay, why at the end of the show? Well, he wants suck it up buttercup He thinks he wants you to put it at the end. It not the Trump thing. Oh Okay, hold on. Let me just check. He just thinks I got a buttercup Okay, that's the one I'll put that the end of the show Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't understand and then we need Trump jobs Think we only have the one with with Pelosi don't we yeah, but yeah, I have this one That's a new one. He has an anecdote here I might want to read. The day after President Trump signed the travel ban, the president of my university, Oregon State, released a letter to the students, staff and faculty. I've attached it. Okay, he's got it attached. I'll put it in the newsletter if it's worth repeating. That should do it. So let's... He'll be getting a knight and he's in shining armor. I look forward to it. Meanwhile, Grand Duke Dwayne Melanson

1:12:39 is in for the same amount, 914. Look at this big number. Wow. That's pretty, it's astonishing. ITM from the Grand Duke and Abbeyance. And I believe with another 90 bucks that Abbeyance leaves. Here's the first shrubbery toward my officialness. Karma to all nice who say nay. Nee. No, it's nee. Nay is the Dutch nay. Nay. I thought he meant nice to say me, which is what they said in the Monty Python movie. Oh, I don't know that. The knight who says me. Could be. Could be both. And a fear is freedom, please. Okay. Okay. And he says, I sent you some words. What does that mean? For the, uh, the word. Oh, for the words thing. Okay. We must acknowledge. Oops. That's not the one. I think it is. That's odd. This one. Yeah.

1:13:45 And you will all surrender to them! You piece of- You thought. Prima. Alright, nicely done. Stefan Kalv- Kalvit. Uh, in Deutschland. Thanks for the countless hours of great and thought-provoking entertainment. Looking forward to you two butchering my name. Well, let me give it a try. Stefan Kalweit. I'd say Kalweit. Yeah, I would say that too. Also turning 34 on March 23rd, he needs to be on the birthday list. He's on the birthday list. Great. And congratulations and thank you for your courage, Stefan. Danke. Danke für den Hals- und Beinbruch.

1:14:33 Sir H.M. Head mofo in charge. The head mofo in charge is back. 350 bucks saw the newsletter and the request for donations to offset the poor showing from the last show. Yes. So I had to get off my fourth point of contact ass and send in a donation to offer the overwhelming to offset the overwhelming bonerism of other freeloaders. With this donation I become a Baron. I'm currently the Sir HMFIC Black Knight of the US Army. I request to be Sir HMFIC.

1:15:09 Baron of the US Armed Forces. Yeah, that's an interesting protectorate. I like that. Yeah, it's a good one. Been a great run over the years listening to the show and the outstanding analysis that keeps me and others sane. Just want to throw in a plug for my online store, www.asmdssgear.com. Now this is awesome shit my drill sergeant says. Asmdssgear.com. I order from that all the time. He has great mugs and t-shirts. I got a hoodie that says suck it up buttercup on the back. Walk around Austin with that. Now it's a great, he has great stuff. It's funny. And he has new stuff all the time. I just laugh, I laugh my butt off. I gotta order that. Cups. Anyway, you can use the discount code NOAGENDA to get 20% off your order. Oh good, I can do that now as well. Good. And now I have plugged my business. I'll be writing this future donations off on my taxes. As an advertising expense, really?

1:16:06 I think it's, I think you might get away with it. I would like a Huntsman Karma for me and the rest of the donating producers. Holy moly, that's an old one. That goes back to 2012. Wow. You've got Karma. Wow, good call back. Huntsman and we got to Sir Grand Duke the other grand. Oh wait wait a minute I didn't realize he was on the list we have to do we don't we have a thing for him Well, we should have one for Melancon too. We don't have one yet for I know

1:16:56 Grand Duke David Foley, 33333, please enclose a donation towards eventual knighthood for my wife. As John so promptly pointed out, carries no title, even though she's married to a grand duke. Sorry that your visit appears to have distracted donations. Listen up, producers, slaves and other listeners, please donate to the best podcast in the universe as without your support, there is no show. This is true. Yes, this is true. For the Lady Lisa then, very good. Thank you very much, Grand Duke. You've got karma. It was nice staying at the compound. Brian, yeah, you like Los Gatos? The cats? Yeah, for visiting, absolutely.

1:17:42 Brian Hertziger in Omaha, Nebraska 32323 Oops, he says see a see an email from sales at by rar.com Completed knighthood today. Do we have a why are you reading out people's emails address dude? Docs, I'm don't do it don't talk. It's just sales that don't dogs don't dogs Well, do you have them on the list? I'll check I think so. Oh But what do you need? He's gonna be a knight. Yeah, do you not see the color on this thing? No, there's no color on mine. Well, that's very interesting. So mine has a color, yet he's not on the list. How about that? Well, there you have it. I don't have a color. I think you're imagining the color. Oh, okay, fine. Okay, keep going. Okay, well, give me his... Let me dig this up. Hold on, I gotta get the mail.

1:18:34 I thought I saw that one earlier. Yes, yes. You are now witnessing the back office of the Noah Jenner Show. That's right, the back office. That's how we roll, people. That's how we roll. Did you find something? World backup day, backup your files. Finally reached my now, here it is. Sales manager. John, I've taken too long to get to this point, but I'm glad I finally crossed the line for my knighthood. Passed it a while back and didn't realize it. I started my journey in 2012 and hope you'll let me... By the way, I know, I think he's on here. We got some guy who's been giving $10 a month. Yeah, and it became a knight fund. Eight years. And he becomes a knight today, I know. Yeah. I know. It's been too long to get to this point, but I'm glad I crossed the line for my knighthood. Passed it a while back and started my journey in 2012.

1:19:26 Hope you let me join the nice and names at the roundtable so honored I'd like to be known as surveilled yeah of Nib brass nuts Nebraska and ebr a ss nuts the brass nuts all right, which is refers to Nebraska. Yeah, and he's surveilled I am also hoping my donation today, uh, palindrome for the show 32323 for the show on 323. Okay. Helps me get my first executive producership. Can you play we follow by little girl? Yay. And give my wife some medical karma. I would very much appreciate it. Your serve. You've got karma.

1:20:15 Sir Chad Biderman, $250, this is going to be a First Associate Executive Producer. Sir Chad has this great letterhead which at the cross the top is emblazoned, Sir Chad Biderman, Baron of Guam, name and address, and he's in Illinois actually. Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, I hate bandwagons. Hate! Whenever I hear all my friends in the media trumpeting, and the media trumpeting about a product or narrative, I tend to argue the opposite just on principle. Like I'm supposed to just agree because a bunch of people are yelling loudly enough? Screw that! I'm the guy who refused to see Titanic. You know what? I refuse to see Titanic. Really? I've never seen it. Really?

1:21:01 Yet, based upon your recommendation, I watched La La Land and wanted to kill myself. What a horrible movie, how can you like that? It took me about 10 shots at it. It's crap! Well, I enjoyed it. You like Titanic. I might. Come on. But I did, and he says the other movie didn't refuse us, it was Avatar, which I did refuse. I have not seen Avatar. I do not have... Ah, but there you go. No, no. The one you don't like. You know why? Because Ritardo DiCaprio wasn't in the Blue People movie. I liked the boat movie. Because everybody kept on pushing those movies in the theater, like it was my duty as an American citizen to see the damn things. In fact, in fact... Wait a minute, wait a minute. You said you had to do ten shots before you liked the movie? I just didn't drink enough maybe.

1:21:47 In fact, if a bandwagon coincidentally shares the same belief I came to independently, I automatically question my own thinking. That's interesting. This guy is a real cynic. When my friends go on too much about one thing or another, I bring up the opposing view just to make sure they thought through their own position. Here we go. Example, the world is round. Looks pretty flat to me. In all the photos I see, anyway, he makes him, he's the devil's advocate. During such times, I'm grateful to No Agenda, particularly for the discussions with which I disagree. My own opinions and worldview mean nothing if they can't withstand a challenge. Must let the press do the debate.

1:22:34 No, this guy is smart. I like this guy. He's great. I like this guy too. You give me plenty of material to be a buzzkill in training, my friends at least, and they spend too much time on the echo chamber. So I consider that my attached $250 check to be more of an investment than a donation. Of course. Yeah. You're investing in your show. Exactly. That's funny. And your mental hygiene. Anyway, that's that's any characters or listen to the show and produce it just the karma anything anything else for him He doesn't have anything Thank you very much, you've got karma Baron of Guam Baron of Guam Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas to 2850 I TM Jens here's a stack of 914 quarters good idea

1:23:23 Tell keep the show going strong this should put me over the double knighthood threshold I'm sending the accounting to John and like to be knighted as Sir Reptilious the stealthy Sir Reptitious the stealthy Oh, oh, Reptitious yes Thanks for all the hard work and boundless entertainment Can somebody please increase John's font size? Tony Tanzi, by the way, he's in Tigard, Oregon with Dwayne Mellison and they both donated on the same day, 204.50. Boom shakalaka. I think you guys should get together. I'm not sure I would have survived this election without your dismantling of the constant flow of crap coming from the corporate media. I've quit Facebag and Twitter, which has had a tremendously positive effect and impact on my life. I'll bet.

1:24:15 You are slowly becoming my only constant connection to the outside world. I'm not sure if that's healthy, but it's entertaining. Thank you for keeping me sane while I navigate life in this area of the country that spends most of its time in the other universe. I'll take a de-douching, a John and Adele hello. I don't know why, but I find it hilarious, and some karma for the thing I've got in the works. Keep up the good fight. I did want to mention that Lady Lisa, the Grand Duke's Girl yeah has no yeah, but his wife's yeah, well It's not on any social media, and she's really and she's really happy You better that's interesting. Yeah, I did. Yeah. She said no not on face bag nothing She's not just I said I don't I don't want in my life. I don't need it pretty good Wow I know I know Health and family. I'm impressed. Hell is the family there yes indeed. I'm sorry it was a hello And what was the other thing you wanted? Oh just a karma

1:25:17 No, no, he's got the other thing. Now I gotta go back to it because I had to open up this thing for Cruz. I'm sorry. I was not... Well, you do that. I do that to you all the time. Yeah, true. Um... Douching... He needs a de-douching. Oh, de-douching. That's right. Hello and then... You've been de-douched. Hello. Hello. It's me. It's me. And here I sit on the stoop. You've got karma. I should have had the lyrics in front of me when I did that bit. Okay, now Dennis Cruz. I think it's Sir Dennis Cruz, is it not? Sir Dennis Cruz in Portland, 201. And he has a note he sent in by email. It's what allowed my contribution, a tax refund, give 10% tithing, maybe too convoluted of your return. Give 10% of your return to something that matters. Just a thought, no agenda. Okay. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1:26:20 Yeah, 10% so he got the $2,000 back. Thank you. Thank you. Do a reverse thing there. Sir John the Brewer, our buddy. Yep. See you grousing and raise your donation. Now I need some new human resource karma. Thank you for your courage, Sir John the Brewer. Here you go. Good luck with the new human resource. Congratulations. You've got karma. Dave C from Atlanta comes in, final executive associate executive producer $200, Atlanta, Georgia. Call me Dave C from Atlanta searching my email from last year PayPal said you canceled my weekly subscription. How rude. They're still doing that, huh? They're still saying that we canceled. I dislike that.

1:27:02 I mean, what's weird is because a lot of times it's just a guy's credit card number ran out or lossy, but that's mostly what it is. That's mostly what it is. No, it's mostly what it is. And I was thinking about this. I think the logic is since we decided. that once you're credit, we decide it's our decision to not put one of those extension things in there so somebody ends up giving us their life. We don't like the idea of you forgetting and just charging you money for years and we don't like that. We don't like it when it's done to us and we don't want to do it to you. Right. And so then we get blamed. How does that work on Patreon? Do they just charge you every month automatically? I'll bet you they do.

1:27:42 Have no idea. I bet you they do too Anyway, here's my money whether you like it or not. I'm caught up now. Please de douche me all right. Thank you very much You've been de duke you've got karma does it Yeah, that's it. That's a great group there, especially with the two club members at the top. I want to thank them all. And remember, we do have a show coming up shortly, just a few days on Sunday, and continued support is very Much welcome. Indeed, and these of course are the executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 9er14 of the best podcast in the universe, noagendashow.com. Real credits can be used any way you like and we'll be thanking the rest of the donors for today's program later on. And again, as John said, another show on Sunday. Devorak.org slash N-A. I don't know if March Madness is over or not. Probably not. Well, you know what? Go out there and hit someone in the mouth. Our formula is this. We go out,

CHAPTER 24 / 49 Discussion

Shaquille O'Neal Flat Earth Comments, Kyrie Irving

The hosts play a clip of basketball star Shaquille O'Neal appearing to support "Flat Earth" theory during a podcast interview. Shaq references Kyrie Irving's previous comments on the subject and uses his experience driving across the country as "evidence" of a flat plane. The hosts debate whether the athlete is being serious or performing a comedic bit.

shaquille o'neal· flat earth· kyrie irving· conspiracy theories· basketball

1:28:47 We hit people in the mouth. Shut up, lady. Fact base. You know, there's something in the donation segment I wanted to return back to about Flat Earth. I finally got the audio. I had to hear it myself to hear if he was serious or if it was a joke. We have a famous Flat Earther now amongst us and that would be the basketball superstar Shaquille O'Neal.

1:29:25 And you're taking them seriously? Yes. Have you heard the whole interview? No. Here we go. What did you make of the Kyrie stuff? I don't... It's true. The earth is flat. Shaq, what are you talking about? The earth is flat. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. Listen, there's three ways to manipulate the mind. which read what you see and what you hear conspiracies in school first thing they teach us is oh Columbus discovered America but when he got there it was some fair-skinned people with the long hair smoking out of peace pipes so what does that tell you Columbus didn't discover America he found where some other people are he lives I drive from coast to coast and

1:30:10 to me. Okay. That's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I drive for Florida to California all the time. 92 podcasts. And that's the dumbest thing you've ever said. That's a high bar to get over. I do not go up and down in a 360 degree angle and all that stuff about gravity. Have you looked outside of Atlanta lately and seen all these buildings? So you mean to tell me that China is under us? China is under us. They are under us. That's not what they tell you when you're a kid. If you dug straight through your backyard, you can get to China. The world is not flat. We've seen the

1:30:46 I think he's serious. Well, I don't think so, but I know that it's some I guess it's he was referring to Kyrie Irving who said this Yeah, who must have said something he said yeah, what yeah, so we got two basketball players Yeah, and by the way they both use a round ball, huh? Yeah, hey now. There's a oh wow you got me there John I have a little expo to have Shaq on the on the team. Yeah, but I

CHAPTER 25 / 49 Discussion

Michael Flynn Russian Payments, Leading Authorities Speakers Bureau

General Michael Flynn is under fire for receiving $34,000 from RT to attend a 2015 gala in Moscow where he sat next to Vladimir Putin. Investigations also reveal payments from Kaspersky Labs and a $600,000 lobbying contract involving Turkey. The hosts explain how the "speakers bureau" industry works, suggesting Flynn was likely part of a pre-packaged group of speakers booked by the agency Leading Authorities.

michael flynn· rt· vladimir putin· leading authorities· speakers bureau· kaspersky labs· turkey

1:31:45 I have a little exposition on Michael Flynn. I had it for the last show, but it was going to take up too much time. It takes up a little time, not a lot. But Michael Flynn, I just want to explain to people how this sort of public speaking game works because it turns out that I worked for one of the companies that Flynn was involved with that got him booked in Russia. So let's play, and I can tell you what the deal is. And I don't like this people anymore by the way. Flynn rundown, CBS Jeff Pegues or however his name is, this is the guy with that funny voice, part one. Investigating President Trump's first national security advisor revealed today that he received tens of thousands of dollars in 2015 from Russia's government-run television system. Jeff Pegues has been looking into that.

1:32:38 Yes, that's right. Lock her up! Just two months before retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn began advising the Trump campaign, he traveled to Moscow to attend a gala where he was seated right next to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Today, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Elijah Cummings, released checks, emails and invoices that showed Flynn was paid almost $34,000 to attend the event by RT, a media company the CIA has said engaged in a Kremlin-directed campaign to undermine faith in the U.S. government.

1:33:14 It begs the question, why would President Trump allow him to be in his inner circle receiving top secrets of our government? In a statement, a spokesman says Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, notified and briefed the DIA before his trip to Russia and again upon his return. And that just wasn't acceptable to me. President Trump fired Flynn after just 24 days as National Security Advisor when it was revealed Flynn lied to Vice President Pence about conversations he had had with the Russian ambassador to the US. Alright, so that's part one. And by the way, at that event, it was, I saw Marsha, whatever her name is, the one who was the lawyer for the OJ Simpson trial. Marsha Clark. Marsha Clark was there. Really?

1:34:08 Yeah, there's a whole bunch of celebrities there. We don't have to really, I don't think we need to play part two, but it's pretty short. So play that and then it's maybe a piece of information. And it's not just his connections to Russia that have raised questions. Just last week, Flynn retroactively registered with the Justice Department as an agent of a foreign government. He had a $600,000 lobbying contract with a company with ties to the Turkish government. In addition, Flynn received over $11,000 from a Russian cargo airline and Anthony was also paid $11,000 from Kaspersky Labs. That's a well-known cyber security company with ties to Russian officials. Jeff Begay, thanks Jeff.

CHAPTER 26 / 49 Discussion

RT Response to Flynn Controversy, Leading Authorities Data Leak

RT's head of communications, Anna Belkina, defended the payment to Michael Flynn as a standard commercial transaction through a U.S. speakers bureau. She criticized the agency, Leading Authorities, for leaking confidential, unredacted emails to the Washington Post. The hosts condemn the agency for violating client confidentiality and failing to protect the names of employees involved in the booking.

rt· michael flynn· leading authorities· washington post· confidential emails· speakers bureau

1:34:50 No, I like that because that fries all these people's minds. Oh, security now, yes. Kaspersky, what is the name? Kaspersky? Kaspersky, yeah. Kaspersky, oh yeah, they know, they're great guys. And now they're Russian, they have ties to the Russian government. Can we believe the reports anymore? Oh no, we'll have to get Bruce to say something about it. Yeah, it's all bullcrap of course. So here we go, let's play this clip. This is trying to explain the Russian event. Booked by leading authorities. Well earlier Neil Harvey spoke to RT's head of communications Anna Belkina and our correspondent Ilya Petrenko to try and find out exactly what all the fuss is about. What we're witnessing right now is really an absurd extent to which the mainstream

1:35:34 mainstream media is trying to outdo one another with sensationalized headlines. We're seeing breaking news on CNN, we're seeing groundbreaking revelations and explosive details and so forth. But what exactly are the revelations that General Flynn Came to Moscow to speak at international conference that was hosted by RT in December 2015 He himself has already spoken publicly about this. In fact, he has spoken to American media outlets about this months ago using the agency and compensating speakers for an agency in order to invite an expert a VIP kind of analyst speaker for an event such as our conference in December

1:36:13 2015 was, it's an entirely common practice in the United States and around the world. There are scores of agencies, particularly in Washington, D.C., alongside of those in New York, in London and other places, that specifically specialize in working with civil servants, working with former officials from all branches of the government, of politics, politics and connecting them with opportunities like that. And everything is entirely transparent. Now, the agency with which we engaged, the name is Leading Authorities Speakers, I believe, they're very publicly, very proudly boast a very impressive roster of Washington politicians and other kind of government officials, public figures. OK, let's start with a little information for people.

1:37:05 Leading authorities, which is I believe is centered in Boston, at one point, not so much anymore because three of the major speakers bureaus, the traditional old great one is Harry Walker out of New York, leading authorities is very competitive and they do packages, a lot of packages. And the other one that was well known, I think they've fallen a little bit out of favor is the Washington Speakers Bureau. And then there's about 50 to 100 little speakers bureaus, and the kind of the funny thing about it is with very rare exceptions, whatever speaker you want, you can get through any of them. It's almost like a shared list. The number of exclusive speakers, people that only work for one agency, is a handful. And they're the really big ones, I'm sure. Like Joe... Like Hillary Clinton. Actually, I think Clinton probably books herself.

1:37:57 No, she has a booker we've talked about. Well, she has one of them. She may be exclusive, but there's... Swifty Lazar. He's dead. And he's also Hollywood. And the Speakers' Bureaus are pretty well known, and that's where you book these things. And they can pretty much get anybody. So everybody works for everybody. And I worked for all three of those that I mentioned at one time or another. Not so much anymore, but I'm over the hill, I guess. Whatever the case, and I said that, the Speakers Bureau that we're talking about, leading authorities, it's obvious to me that what happened was the RT people got a hold of one of their agents.

1:38:44 And it was sold a package. Ah, a package of speakers. It was a package of speakers because the event was in Russia, it had to be coordinated. I worked in a gig that was in Brazil and it was the same kind of thing they had to... Yeah, man, you were a baller. The Speakers Bureau had to... the Speakers Bureau had to package the whole thing. It wasn't like they picked from here, oh I like they had that speaker. Did they do production as well or just the speaker? No, no, they might hire a production company. I don't know about that part. But mostly they packaged the whole thing. So Flynn was part of a big group and he was not like, oh we want Michael Flynn. No, Flynn was working for, he's probably one of the more expensive guys, he's probably

1:39:29 at the 15 to $25,000 level. He got this much more, because when you go overseas, they'll double it. They'll say, well, we got a flight to Russia, it's twice as much. And so it's a huge scam. And so he probably went in at a $50,000 rate. Speakers Bureau took about 15,000 of that. And along with everybody else. 30%? They'll go from 15 to 30, yeah. Oh my. Generally, it's around 20. Now, do you think there's a career for me at a Speaker's Bureau? Well, you have to have some... First of all, you have to have given a couple of speeches that you have. I have my cusp appearance. You need a couple of speeches that you have a video take on. I got a video of that. It's on the YouTubes. Yeah, well, then you go to some Speaker's Bureau and say you want to do some speaking. The thing is, it's, yeah, you know... I want to speak truth to power. Can you book me?

1:40:29 I'm just kidding, John. I'm just looking at, you know, plan B. It is probably not a bad idea to get some speaking gigs. All right. Anyway, the point is, is that they had, uh, this was leading authorities ran out of, you know, ran the whole thing and it was just a coincidence pretty much that Flynn was in this package because they said, we're going to give you this guy and this guy and that guy and this guy. And they had Marsha Clark in there. Obviously she was part of the package and she is, I know she does a lot of public speaking. She's probably in the, uh, I'm I'm thinking $15,000 of speech range, maybe more. Some people get up pretty high. It used to be 25 was a big number, but now with Clinton and some of these other people asking for, you know, $200,000, it's changed a lot. But here's the thing that ended up bothering me about...and by the way, I thought leading authorities, I'd been to their offices, I just thought they were kind of...I didn't like them. They were...and they'd also cut me out of a gig.

1:41:23 gigs I know I was supposed to get. You know that Dvorak, he kind of gives off the rails a lot. Once you get this guy. He's a troublemaker. He doesn't color inside the lines. And one of the reasons I know this is because they accidentally sent some literature out that was not meant for me. It was something else and there was some disparaging remarks in there about me. Really? About you? In their own literature? So leading authorities, just to kind of show where they're coming from, the second clip, which is leading authorities, they did what I think is inexcusable. Somebody who, you know, trying to get out to get Flynn, and I'd like to know who this person was, went to leading authorities and said, can you give us all these confidential things that, you know, Flynn signed off on and this and that? Oh, yeah, sure. Here, take it.

1:42:14 And I just thought this was terrible. I'm sorry, which, I don't know if this is the right clip. It says, leading authorities release details on Russian meeting. I thought we just played that one. Maybe... No, you played. Oh, no. You played the one after the trying to get to the event by leading authorities. Oh, yes. Now we got a place. It's an expectation for, I think, any kind of entities discussing such matters. And what you're actually seeing in some of these documents that are published on Washington Post website, the email exchanges between RT and the

1:42:49 uh... the agency is that label confidential is still actually preserved on those emails that are there and yet they're out there. They're public. There are names of our employees that are published out there and other various details which goes obviously entirely contrary to what our expectations were. So, of course, we will be looking into the situation in greater detail. Oh, okay. We'll give you all the here of New York Times here. Here's the whole email conversation, private email conversation between us and RT with all the names, none redacted. Unbelievable. Yeah. This company is like really needs to be called out on this. Leading authorities. That's what they're called. Leading authorities. Yeah. Leading authorities is the name of the company. I want to look into them. There must be more to that than meets the eye. I think they're just another. You know, these speakers bureaus are,

CHAPTER 27 / 49 Discussion

Madeleine Albright Senate Testimony, NATO Expansion History

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright testified regarding Russian aggression, claiming that Vladimir Putin deliberately views NATO expansion as a threat despite assurances given to Boris Yeltsin. Albright argued that the U.S. did nothing wrong during the post-Cold War period and that Putin simply "needs an enemy." The hosts view this as part of a broader "New World Order" narrative.

madeleine albright· vladimir putin· nato· cold war· boris yeltsin· russia· foreign policy

1:43:47 I mean, some of them do good work. I've never had a problem with Harry Walker out of New York, which is the original classic. It's like working with William Morris. I thought he was the one that did Clinton. Harry Walker probably does Clinton. I would bet money on that. I'm pretty sure. Harry Walker has a lot of exclusive clients. We had one of those contracts. I think it was through Harry, originally through Harry Walker. Yeah. All right. Let me move to a couple more F Russia things here just because you know, Russia is horrible. Russia is our adversary. We had a ton of hearings on the Hill with Gorsuch for the Supreme Court nominee. You got a few clips and a lot about hacking Russia, Bob, Senator Spire, the asking a very simple questions. These are my favorite questions. You know, the question usually is will we be attacked within the next three months? In this case, asking Comey and

1:44:46 Admiral Rogers about Russia. You know, I think it's really important as we sit here that we explain this to the American people in a way that they can understand it. Because we're stupid! You're stupid, people! Stupid, stupid American people. Vote that woman out. Harm can have many meanings. They're an adversary and so they want to resist us, oppose us, undermine us in lots of different ways. Thanks, Comey. I'm disliking him more. His squirrely words. Oh, a great one. Okay, but the true... By the way, I'm going to pre-give you... I had this clip. I want to pre-give you clip of the day because I somehow got lost in the shuffle. This is unbelievable.

1:46:02 What she's about to say. Madeline Albright. No, Spear. Oh, I... You don't have any more of the clip? No. Oh, well then I have to... You don't get clip of the day. You might get clip of the day. Well, I don't have it. That's what I said, but I'll tell you what she said. Yeah. She said, I think that the Russians taking on the DNC was an act of war. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't clip that. Yeah, you're right. She said it was an act of war and she said we should declare war on Russia. Well, we've had so many of these dogs saying stuff like that or, or it's the same as they came in and raided your house in the middle of the night. We've heard all of this and these jabronis. I want to get to the root of the Russian hate. And there's no one who knows it better or has more hate for Russia than Madeleine Albright.

1:46:48 And she was also a witness, of course, because you always want to prepare everybody, bring them up, get them ready and say what you want them to say. I think that a mistake was made at the end of the Cold War when we said that we had won the Cold War. They lost the Cold War. And that's not just a semantic difference. The system failed. We were, the Clinton administration was in office when we did the first tranche of NATO expansion. It was the right thing to do because these countries wanted to be part of a European system and it was not against Russia. And I specifically spoke to President Yeltsin and I said this is not against you and at some point you might be able to be members as part of a new system. And what has happened is

1:47:34 I think that Putin has deliberately tried to figure out how to make sure that it is viewed as a threat to them when it was never set up in the post-Cold War period as a threat to them. So I don't think we've done anything wrong. I think that Putin needs an enemy and that's what he's been doing. Okay, so now we understand exactly where everybody's coming from. But how, why, why all the problems and you know, You know, what really, what do people, what do elites really, really want? And I have two clips I think that start to answer this question. Because it is a new world order. And Trump as president is screwing up all the plans. You just heard Albright talk about a new system. A new system.

CHAPTER 28 / 49 Discussion

Global Governance, New World Order Revitalization

European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and former National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley discuss the need to "revitalize" the international order. Hadley argues that if the U.S. does not lead, the system will benefit powers like Russia and China at the expense of smaller nations. The hosts interpret these statements as a push for global governance and a "New World Order" that excludes nationalist interests.

federica mogherini· stephen hadley· new world order· international order· syria· global governance

1:48:16 That is the new world order. It's a new system. And, you know, Putin can't be on it. Trump loves Putin. He's messing it up. We can't have the system. No, this is absolutely true. That, of course, combined with the other little gotcha, which I think really triggered the whole thing. Which is? Snowden. Oh, yes. Okay. Thank you. Damn, you got me. Yeah, you got me. You got me. A point for you there. A point for you. This is the European Union foreign policy chief, Frederica Mogherini. And just listen to what she said. So part of this is about NATO, but it's really about what America's responsibility is in the new world order. I was particularly worried to see the news coming from Washington on the budget cuts.

1:49:06 I know this is internal, domestic, but I was the day before yesterday in Cairo for meetings with the Arab League. The previous day I was in Addis Ababa for meetings with the African Union. If the United States were to reduce significantly its investments, being it on humanitarian development, development aid, peace and security operations, the world and certain regions of the world... I just want to just, let's just not gloss over the peace and security operations. I just love these words. You can't just let them slip by. You mean war machine, peace and security operations. Got it. God bless you, George Carlin. Now, did you hear that? The Syrian refugee crisis started because the World Food Program was underfunded?

1:50:06 Huh? Wow. Syrian refugee crisis. That's delusional. It's completely delusional. Guys, don't forget that the major Syrian refugee crisis a couple of years ago started because the World Food Program was underfunded. Yeah, if I recall, the crisis had already happened. The refugees were in Turkish camps and they all have debit cards. That's what the World Food Program is. They're not sending over mush the way when I was growing up. Hey, here's some mush for you people to eat. No, no. Now they give them a debit card and they just, but they didn't have the money to fill up the debit cards. So people didn't have money to buy the foods locally, but that didn't start the crisis. And what it was our fault somehow. I hope there's wisdom enough here to keep in mind that investing in America

1:50:56 means also investing in places that are far away. It's your own interests. Okay, I got it. By the way, I thought it was climate change that started that whole thing. People get your story straight. Yeah, they can't seem to get one single... Well, you just use it for anything. There needs to be a central point where you can get the right talking points. Well, no, you can use Syria, you can use for everything. Stub my toe, us, Syria. They had the former national security advisor, Stephen Hadley on as a witness. And same talk. The current conception of the new of the international order is not notice how he wanted to say new world order but caught himself. He did himself. The current conception of the new of the international order is not sustainable. That's why we say it needs to be revised and revitalized. We may have made huge investments in helping Europe, Japan, South Korea emerge to be the healthy prosperous societies they are. We helped

1:51:54 China integrate into the international system. We have seen the growth of India. These countries need to be given a greater role to play in the international system. But that of course comes with some responsibilities and part of that responsibility is not only responsible action and constructive action but also to foot some of the bill. So I think there has to be a readjustment and a rebalancing, a look at division of labor and division of responsibilities. But if we step out from that process and do not lead it,

1:52:31 an international order that will emerge in the traditional way, which is it will benefit the big powers like Russia and China at the expense of the little powers. That's not the international order that we want. It's not the international order that's in our interest. And it's not an international order that will provide enduring peace and security. There you go. It's clear. It's very clear what they want, as you said. You know, I'm listening to a 1999 YouTube video, so we can remember that this is nothing new, where Walter Cronkite, and this went around a little bit on Twitter, Walter Cronkite's accepting the Norman Cousins Award for global governance.

CHAPTER 29 / 49 Discussion

Walter Cronkite 1999 Global Governance Award

A 1999 video features Walter Cronkite accepting the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award, where he advocated for a system of "world law" to ensure peace. The ceremony included an introduction by John Anderson and a message from Hillary Clinton. The hosts use this archival footage to demonstrate the long-standing push for one-world government among media and political elites.

walter cronkite· global governance· world government· norman cousins· hillary clinton· 1999

1:53:31 And I want to play a little bit of the intro, which is John Anderson, the presidential candidate. who's giving, who's announcing that Walter Cronkite won the award shortly after Cronkite wins this award and advocates for global governance. And, you know, we should have one world government and it should be with laws because everything will work so much better. And then Hillary comes on and she says something too. She doesn't, she's not quite as definitive, but this is in 1999, she wasn't. She wasn't quite on her game. But let's play a couple of these clips. This is Norman Cousins' Global Governance Award to Cronkite, which is the intro to Cronkite. That's the first priority of human... No, that's Cronkite. Oh, I'm sorry.

1:54:21 I'm looking for it. It says Norman Cousins. Ah, got it. Sorry. You know that we have come to the point of our really being here this evening and that is to honor with the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award Walter Cronkite. We are proud to present to you this amethyst geode. and a what? Amethyst geode. It's those things you crack open and there's a bunch of crystals inside and he describes this award as how the global one world order, how it would develop. It's actually kind of interesting because you can see how these people think. I love this history lesson, JCD. Amethyst geode and

1:55:14 I hope all of you will take the opportunity at the conclusion of the program to come up and examine it. We're not worrying about anybody carrying it off. It's too heavy for me to lift. But it illustrates a very important lesson. The crystals of a geode are formed within another rock that serves as the foundation for their fragile beauty. The rock provides the structure necessary for the crystals to grow. And in similar fashion, world government is the structure necessary for global justice. You sir, you sir have been a lifelong advocate of this principle and it is appropriate therefore that we present you with this amethyst geode.

1:56:17 Well, it's very that's I like this a lot, John. And the this whole notion before the Internet, they were pulling it off. No problem. Yes, I believe so. I believe the Internet really messed it up. And now they've figured out that they can use the Internet to Well, all they're getting now is a split universe, but they got half the people. They got half of them and they're all in. But let's listen to, I only have the very short, one small part of Cronkite going on and on and on about how great one world government would be because it would solve all crimes. That the first priority of humankind in this difficult era

1:56:59 is to establish an effective system of world law that will assure peace with justice among the peoples of all the world. Oh yes, of course, and we will take care of everybody. It's gonna be great! Well, people won't have their stuff stolen. Reminds me of the movie I saw, which I'd like. And by the way, before you talk about the movie, troubled times. This was 99 when we were at the peak of money flying around. Everyone was getting rich overnight on IPOs. Really? This was 99? I thought it was much older than that. No, it's only 99. Oh, wow. But they were already in the toilet because of the internet was creeping in on them. But they were still seeing things in some other world because they were talking about, unless I'm wrong about the date, but the way I see it was in October 19th, 1999, unless someone can show me a different time. Sounds older. Yeah, I know it does. It's because it's so corny. Unbelievable. I watched Hidden Figures.

CHAPTER 30 / 49 Discussion

Hidden Figures Movie, Milk and Racism Controversy

The hosts discuss the film "Hidden Figures," which depicts black female mathematicians at NASA in the 1960s. The conversation pivots to a modern controversy where activists claim drinking milk is a symbol of white supremacy and hate speech due to varying rates of lactose intolerance among different races. The hosts mock the convoluted logic used to link dairy consumption to systemic racism.

hidden figures· nasa· racism· milk· hate speech· lactose intolerance

1:57:58 Oh, this is a good movie. And the reason why I bring it up is because it's an, you know, it's about the early sixties and three black women who are computers at NASA, which I never knew that's where the word came from. Computers. They were people who actually would compute equations and they were called computers until they got an actual IBM mainframe. Have you seen this movie? No, not yet. Oh, it's about three black women, computers, and they, uh, with their, uh, well, of course it's all about the struggle, black and white, and so, you know, the race, the racist. I don't think that's what the word computer came from. I think it said that's just what they were called. Well, okay. I don't, yes, but they were called computers and they had to, uh, computate, uh, John Glenn's re-entry trajectory. And it's a really good movie and historically,

1:58:52 True, I don't know if everything in the movie is correct, but... Well, it's obviously been dramatized, so it wouldn't be a good movie. But really, it's about racism. Although when I watch the movie, I see Kevin Costner, I'm like, yeah, that's America. That's the guy who's shunning racism. Not about, oh, how guilty I feel. No, no, how great I feel that they were the director of the programs, and screw that, these ladies belong here. That's how I interpret it. But I did find a new racist thing. Okay. Did you know that drinking milk is racist? Hey, I tweeted this before anyone else. No, I didn't see your tweet. I'll play the clip. This is a guy with a Make America Great Again hat on.

1:59:35 Very calmly standing with a black guy who's got a cool big is like 70s fro and clothes to match and they're having a very civil conversation which is beautiful, but I did not know this. Today people got kicked out because they were spreading hate speech and they were trying to scare people. There are people, I didn't see anyone spreading hate. There were people... And the guy got kicked out who was drinking milk. What did he say? That's hate speech. Anti-veganism? You know that's hate speech. What? Anti-veganism? You know that's hate speech. What was hate speech? That's part of it. That's part of hate speech and I'm not even gonna sit here and explain that. What, you're anti-vegan? No, you know what that is. What do you say? You know what that milk, that's a symbol that represents hate speech. Milk is a symbol of something? Yes, towards black people. What is it a symbol of? I've never heard that in my life. Truthfully speaking, I've never heard that in my life. You've never heard of it? You being honest? Yes. I don't know what milk is. Basically, and that's another thing that we're doing on Saturday.

2:00:25 No, no, no. That's another thing they were doing on Saturday. There's all these subliminal racist type of things they do. For example, drinking the milk, right? They try to say that, um, like black people are lactose intolerant. So they come and they try to drink milk, like just purposely drink milk outside very obnoxiously. So like, I personally met that. Love that. Did you know that black people are lactose intolerant? Is this, is this a fact? Is this fact base? I don't know, some black people are, some white people are. My daughter's lactose intolerant. Yeah. Interesting. But it's hate speech, I should correct myself. A lot of this stems from an op-ed that was written, which is what I tweeted. I didn't print it out or I should have, maybe I did but I don't have it. Candy.

2:01:09 by some woman who went on to a long spiel about how milk is racist. This is existence is racist. And the argument was like, wow, how do you get to this? Because it was long. This piece was about a thousand words of convoluted logic. It was fantastic. But did it have anything to do with it being white or was that not to... Yes. I'll drink chocolate milk then. No, it has a lot to do with it being white. Well, if I drink chocolate milk, then I'm not racist. She didn't go into the chocolate milk angle. I just hacked it that I know of I just hacked her angle What about banana milk then what almond milk? I got a couple more social justice warrior things that I think you'll enjoy just as a little Ataman here New new new new new new new for the kids

CHAPTER 31 / 49 Discussion

Hello Hijab Barbie Accessory, Diversity in Toys

A new product called "Hello Hijab" has been launched as a Barbie-compatible headscarf to promote diversity in children's play. The creator claims it will help children become familiar with different cultures. The hosts point out the irony of seeking "realism" in Barbie dolls, which possess anatomically impossible proportions.

hello hijab· barbie· mattel· diversity· toys· social justice

2:02:03 Hello Hijab for all your Barbies. Hello Hijab is a Barbie compatible hijab that children can play with at home, at schools, amongst all their dolls. And we hope that they will become familiar with it and they will see it as something a kind memory from their playtime and then they were growing to a kinder generation being used to playing with dolls that look different than them. Now I really, sorry for the crappy audio, it's just how it was recorded. So the idea is Hello Hijab is a Barbie compatible hijab, it snaps in place, that fits on all Barbies. But at the end here she says something very interesting. She says, so that girls can play with dolls that don't look just like them.

2:02:49 Have you ever seen a Barbie doll where the legs are three times as long as the body? Are you kidding me? These people are delusional. Barbie dolls have absolutely no basis on reality. Zero. Zero. But okay, we'll add a hijab to it. Now, we always have issues with using the right pronouns. I personally like to be, my pronoun is podcaster. Asked me about my podcast. I'm a podcaster and Ellen DeGeneres even she gets confused by what she's supposed to use on her show she had Asia Kate Dillon who is a She claims herself a non-binary gender non-binary gender

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Asia Kate Dillon on Ellen, Non-Binary Gender Identity

Actor Asia Kate Dillon appeared on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to explain their non-binary gender identity and the use of "they/them" pronouns. Ellen appeared visibly flustered by the terminology, particularly the phrase "assigned female at birth." The hosts discuss the rapid shift in cultural language regarding gender and the pressure on media figures to adopt new linguistic norms.

asia kate dillon· ellen degeneres· non-binary· gender identity· pronouns· billions

2:03:42 Just listen to Ellen has problems. So we don't have to feel bad. So let me let me Understand this and help everyone understand this your character on the show is a non-binary Identifies non-binary. Yes, and you also identify that way explain what that means So non-binary is a term used by some people myself included who experience their gender identity as falling somewhere outside of the boxes or man or woman Okay, so you don't, and you prefer to be referred to as they or them? Mm-hmm. I use the singular they, them, their pronouns. Okay. Because you don't, but is it, if someone says she, because you were both... Stop for one second and back it up. Ellen's flustered. Ellen as a professional stand-up comedian has to be dying. Yes.

2:04:36 But you can't make jokes about it, John. Yes, this is killing her. There are some days I wake up and I don't fit in the female or male box. I'm just a thing. That's my pronoun. Thing. Man or woman. Okay, so you don't... and you prefer to be referred to as they or them? Mm-hmm. I use the singular they, them, their pronouns. Okay, because you don't... But is it, is it if someone just says she because you, you were born, she doesn't know what to do. She, because you, you were born a female. I was assigned female at birth. I was assigned female at birth. My God, where are we going? Born a female. I was assigned female at birth. You are a female, but that's microaggression, microaggression, Ellen. Female. I was assigned female at birth. You are a female, but you don't choose to identify that way.

2:05:29 Correct. Oh my goodness, so then on good morning America, and why would you have a guest like this on your show to promote her movie? She's promoting a movie I'd call up the public the PR department of that movie studio Good food signs these things to all these shows and you are out. Yeah, I'm sure it's a Disney movie Probably what's the name of the movie? I don't know you know Someone in chat room may know Good morning, America now. This was really I think Good Morning America needs to be careful with how they present these stories. I did a huge expose, well expose, we talked in great detail about how, expose. Huge expose. The day I do an expose, you know, call me up, give me a medal.

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Transgender Journey Media Coverage, WPATH Standards

ABC's Nightline featured a story on a father and daughter undergoing gender reassignment together, described by reporter Juju Chang as a "moving, touching story." The hosts analyze the media's role in normalizing these transitions and examine the WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) standards of care. They argue the criteria for surgery and hormone therapy are increasingly subjective.

transgender· juju chang· abc news· gender reassignment· wpath· hormones· surgery

2:06:19 We talked in great detail about the way society is set up to encourage gender reassignment surgery and transgenderism. There's an entire infrastructure at schools, at doctor's offices, etc. that should be questioned. I personally, I don't give a crap what you do. I really, really don't. I have Transgendered people in my circle of friends, which is better than saying some of my best friends are transgender. We have a bunch of transgender no agenda. Yes, of course. That's well, I include them in my that's my circle of friends John. What are you talking about? There's my friends, right? That's it. That is your friend. That's my friends. What am I thinking? I'm looking at you, Ali.

2:07:01 But the way this was presented, and it's a rather interesting story, I think it just warrants some caution. It just makes it all way too easy, sound way too normal, and particularly with young children, there's a high rate of suicide, a high rate of all kinds of depression. The ex-Johns Hopkins dude who ran the The the psych part says this is a mental disorder I'm not saying any of that but careful when you present stories like this I think we're back now with that incredible story of a father and daughter the two of them undergoing the gender reassessment process reassignment process I should say together and Nightline's Juju Chang our good friend is here and this is such a moving touching story It is so moving and touching. How old is this kid?

2:07:52 I don't know if it's mentioned in the story. All I can look it up. ...story about an amazing family really. There are two generations, a metaphor really for the transgender journey. They both say they knew... Ooh, the transgender journey. I like that. ...for really for the transgender journey. They both say they knew as kids that something was off with their gender. But Cori came out at 15 and then mom watched her daughter brave the bullies. She said then she could no longer deny she too was transgender. They've always had a special mother-son bond, but together they transitioned to father-daughter, learning from each other every step of the way. Eric and Corey have both undergone years of counseling and a mental health assessment before starting hormones. Mom, you should know how to double mastectomy, but it's all

2:08:39 in line with the international guidelines for gender reassignment. To see your child going through something like that and then to give you the courage to do it yourself. To be inspired like that together. Thank you for sharing that with us, JuJu. We appreciate it. Yes, oh thank you. To have the courage. So I looked this up. The, let me see, the standards of care for the health of transsexual, transgender, and gender non-conforming people and that falls, what she just mentioned there, I'm going to open it up here. This is very interesting, at least to me. Uh, criteria for sex reassignment surgery, the WPATH standards of care. This is version 7, revisited. This lasts about 20 minutes. Now what does WPWPATH stand for? This is from the International Journal of Transgenderism.

2:09:28 The WPATH standards of care revision committee are reassessing criteria for sex reassignment surgery. Okay, that's just the intro. But then we have the actual bits and pieces. Here we go. Oh my god, is this what I wanted to... I'm sorry, I have the wrong document open. I know, I know. What? Oh no, it's not a fail. It's not as bad as failing... trying to find a letter for a donation. Here we go. I got it here. So there's criteria. And I think there's five criteria that they adhere to. I'm really butchering this, John. I've noticed. Yeah. I'm gonna let you slide. Go. Yeah, no, no. Swing in the wind.

2:10:22 Mental health professionals document a patient's relevant history in a letter which should be required by medical professionals prior to physical intervention. One letter is required for hormone replacement therapy or either augmentation, mammoplasty, or male chest reduction. Two additional letters are needed for genital surgeries. The eligibility criteria and readiness criteria give certain very specific minimum requirements as prerequisites to HRT or sex reassignment surgery. Uh, this of course is highly controversial, off on the line. Section 1 through 4 are in doc- uh, intro- introductory in nature. You know what? I have the wrong- I have everything wrong here. Fuck me. Sorry. I- I- I have the- I don't understand why I don't have the right documents. Uh... Maybe we should just cut it all out of the show.

2:11:20 The point of what I was trying to tell you is that it is an incredibly subjective Set of criteria. It's pretty much. How do you feel that's pretty much it and then you need letters? I'm trying to liven it up. Don't worry. No. I don't think anything will help. No. I don't think so either III think I'm I think I'm just I'll give you the right send off oh man And I'm still and I'm still looking for it. Yeah, well you're not gonna find it epic fail. Well. Let's go this Let's live and things up quickly, please with Joan you'll never hear this part in the show. It's all being cut out. Yeah, that's what you say Jones kill everybody Jones kill everybody

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Alex Jones, Big Swinging Johnson Clip

The hosts play a high-energy clip of Alex Jones asserting that the American people, not the Russians, were responsible for Hillary Clinton's election defeat. Jones uses the phrase "big swinging Johnson" to describe American political power. The hosts find the clip's intensity and phrasing humorous, adding it to their collection of soundbites.

alex jones· hillary clinton· russian interference· infowars· election 2016

2:12:11 If so, can you say when and describe the nature of their inquiries? They want the funding in shadow government blocking Trump to start surveilling and killing people with hit teams they insert within these groups. I told you this three months ago. They plan to kill everybody. No, it makes nothing but sense. They're gonna kill everybody. Why not? And let's play Jones big swinging Johnson. Dude, America kicked Hillary's ass and the Democrats, not the damn Russians. Can you give me some credit here? The big swingin' Johnson, bro! Not the Russians! Get that through your head! Oh my god, beautiful ISO, you get a borderline for that! Borderline! Fabulous! You didn't cut the ISO though, I gotta cut that. That's a good one. Yeah. I like that. Big swingin' Johnson. I like that a lot. Uh, okay, let me do a little lighthearted stuff just to make up for it. On the previous episode we talked about media puns. Media puns.

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Affordable Care Act Puns, Nancy Pelosi Protest Chant

Media outlets used bowling puns to describe President Trump's efforts to "pin down" votes for the new healthcare bill at the White House bowling alley. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden led a "Protect Our Care" protest chant that the hosts describe as "lame." The segment also features a "War on Men" protest chant regarding the "penis party."

affordable care act· donald trump· nancy pelosi· joe biden· white house bowling alley· protest

2:13:10 the useless media puns. Yeah. Trump, I guess, was trying to convince people to vote for the Affordable Health Care Act. And the way he did that is he brought them into the White House bowling alley. Plus our power player of the week, behind the scenes at the White House bowling alley. We'll give you an exclusive look at where the administration is trying to pin down votes. Right now on Fox News Sunday. Thanks. I think there's two lanes. I think it's two lanes. Two lane alley. It's a two lane alley. I think you have to set up the pins yourself. No, no, I think they get machines now. Really? Doesn't Omarosa do that for Trump?

2:13:56 Amorosa, go set up the pins. Go set up the pins. Nancy, was it just Affordable Health Care Act for a moment, which looks like it's going to be a big problem. This bill is not going to pass. And before you go on, I want to mention something, which is that when the market went down the other day, I was doing the Horowitz show. And he says that the word on the street that the reason the market would go down is that if Trump loses this Affordable Care Act deal that they're trying to do, you know, not just ram this thing through, if this doesn't happen, he's going to lose all credibility and the market's going to collapse. Why? Why would that be? Now, there was a little dip and I saw on the face bag, actually, I should have captured it. There was a report, you know, it was down, the Trump rally comes to a stall and there's like, well, clearly Wall Street figured out he's lying. Like, that's not exactly how Wall Street works. I don't think.

2:14:50 uh... no is a based on uh... isn't the rally based on the repatriation of the money that tax lower is business taxes did well that that's what they say and i believe is probably true that the idea is that we're gonna just lower the tax rate for corporations down from thirty five percent is something more reasonable like fifteen or twenty and then they're going to do repatriation of all these trillions of dollars that are overseas by giving a huge tax break to bring the money back and that's good That itself will boost the economy, but the logic is that if he can't get this health care act thing through He's not getting these other things through either and thus the markets gonna collapse. I don't see it that way and he's The tax law comes from the Republican representatives not from Trump

2:15:37 Well, this comes from the Republicans too. Yeah, of course it does. Yeah, no, it's not. And I wonder why they rushed so much. Well, either way, I'll rush this thing. I can give you the two headlines, okay? Headline one, if it passes, 24 million people thrown off health insurance and thrown off healthcare with a stroke of a pen. Yeah, you can write it down. Now, if it doesn't pass, 24 million people saved or created. I guarantee you that's what it's going to be. I think the second would be more Trump failed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, Nancy Pelosi was out on the steps of the Capitol along with Joe Biden, trying to, you know, garner up support against any bill, but in particular, the health care bill. And Nancy Pelosi tries to start a little chant

2:16:34 Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, she tries to start a chant. Doesn't go so well. Protect our care! Protect our care! Protect our care! Protect our care! Protect our care! Thank you, Mr. Vice President, for helping to protect our care. Come on. Protect our care. It's so lame. I got another one for when we have a War on Men segment.

2:17:10 Which is a real chant. I just wanted to let you hear it so when we have one of those War on Men segments then we can use it. Here we go. I love that! The penis party's got to go! The penis party's got to go! Hey hey ho ho, the penis party's got to go. I will be packing up, I'll be rolling up my penis and taking my penis home with me. Yep. You can't play with it. No. You are not going to play with it. I like the hey, hey, ho, ho, and then anything that rhymes with oh, you throw it in there. It usually got to go. Something's got to go. Hey, hey, ho, ho, no agendas got to go. Yeah. That would be one of them. Don't you just love it? It's very creative. It's a beautiful thing. And I just wanted to say one final thing as we're about to get into our donations here.

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YouTube Advertising Boycott, Brand Safe Content

The hosts address reports of YouTube "censoring" LGBTQ and political content. They clarify that this is not government censorship but the result of advertisers demanding "brand safe content." They advise content creators to stop relying on centralized platforms and instead set up their own servers to remain truly independent of corporate influence.

youtube· censorship· advertising· google· brand safety· lgbtq· independent servers

2:18:05 People keep sending me emails, why aren't you covering? YouTube is censoring! YouTube is kicking people off! And now they're kicking LGBTQ people off! Let me explain it to you. This is not YouTube censoring. This is not any censorship, this is the power of advertising. Everything online has to be brand safe content. I will repeat, quote, brand safe content. Anything slightly off color is not interesting. It's not interesting to advertisers. When it's not interesting to advertisers, Google will take that off their network. So if you want to be uncensored, get your own damn server, learn how to set one up. Amazon, AWS, you can set AWS up, you know, EC2.

2:18:55 One click basically you got a web yes, it's very easy We got away do a little bit of research and even the rat is doing it See anyone can do it if Nick the rat can do it kids set up your own server do your own video stuff And make an outstanding product. That's how it works And don't take advertising! Ah, crap me. Well, get out of that in time. Yeah, sorry. He's clearly rattled. Yeah, that's true. True. Rattled. I've never seen that before as a matter of fact. Not to this extent.

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No Agenda Donor Acknowledgments, Job Karma

Adam and John continue acknowledging the "Producers" of the show, reading names and locations of those who donated at various levels. They provide "Job Karma" for listeners seeking employment and "Medical Karma" for those facing health issues. The hosts emphasize that these donations are the sole reason the show can continue without traditional advertising.

no agenda· donations· value-for-value· job karma· producers· crowdfunding

2:19:46 So let's thank a few people instead of harping on that. Beginning with Sir Joshua Mandel, 1-2-3-4-5. And curiously, right after that same exact number donation, we have Sir Don Borowski with 1-2-3-4-5, and he's in Spokane Valley, and he's got, he found his notepad And he sent a note in on the International Federation of Planets Starfleet Command letterhead. In the morning AC and JC, actually I have to read it by the way, it's a rule. I am back at the Federation after my sabbatical at Hewlett-Packard.

2:20:29 My nightly quest to listen to all No Agenda podcasts will be finished soon. I will then listen to all new podcasts twice. Oh God, because they are so packed full of insightful deconstruction that a single listener, a single listen does not do them justice. I think he's probably correct. You know, Tina does that all the time. Yeah, a lot of people do. We hear a lot of people that do that. Sir Donald the Firebottle Baron of Spokane Valley, Don Borosky. WA6, OMI. Yeah, 73's, Kilo 5 Alpha, Charlie Trump. Okay, onward. So we have a lot of donations today. I'll try to get through as many as I can.

2:21:12 Sir Jim Zuckel, $100. Peter J. Boyle Jr., who also says, Dan in San Diego and Jack in San Jose, it's time to donate you douchebags. ♪ Douchebags ♪ Baron Henry of Outpost West in Rancho Palos Verdes, $100. These are $100. So is Boyle and Zuckel. Anonymous, $100 out of Houston, Texas. Anonymous Houstonian here. Joseph Willis $100 now we have 99 from Neil on Bonac in Hamburg Deutschland

2:21:59 and Randall Brown in Providence Village, Texas. And then we drop to from E.H. Flutert in Leiden. Flutert. Flutert. Flutert in Leiden. Leiden. Leiden. Leiden. Leiden. Leiden. Netherlands, 9997. Marv Sandberg. Santayla in Tucson, Arizona, 91-40. Mark Hudson in Otley, West Yorkshire, UK. Also Karen Samuel in Colorado Springs gave boobs. She also, I believe, sent a note in, I think. Do I have it? Yeah, this is her.

2:22:44 About three months ago, a family member turned my husband, Ryan, onto your show. Here's a few things you should know about him. He's a huge fan. He helped increase your listener audience. He's not a douche and he's turning 40. We have him on the list. And if you put at the end, Yoko Hono, NEL Sharpton, Trump aliens, and two shots to the head. We're living in maddening times. Thank you for doing the impossible or breaking down the insanity and having some fun while doing it. I love the show. Keep it coming. Please acknowledge this contribution for show. 918 would be greatly appreciated. Well, that can't happen. You're on 914. You got lucky.

2:23:20 It's a better show. 918 was no good. No, 918 was a dud. Tangerine, stinker. A huge dud. Randall Myers, 8008. Timothy Worth, 8008. By the way, I don't believe I put a boobs link in this last newsletter. Yeah, it's organic, John. It's weird. It's organic boobs. Randall Myers, Timothy Worth. And finally, and these are no city's names. Sir Roger Boots in Mechanicsville, Iowa, and Sherry Sterko in Bend, Oregon. And she, Sherry Sterko, I thought she sent something in.

2:24:00 Yeah, she sent a note. I remember reading it, but it was it was about so it was something else Work Douglas Harvey 77 77 sir Brian Kaufman 75 75 in Spokane Jeremy is Salinas 75 No part parts unknown Brian Pollack 69 96 Roger Esty in Tampa, Florida $64 Carla Kruger Scott Wallace, $60. And he says, keeping it critical and analytical, never hypocritical. Charlie Serpa in St. Louis, Missouri, 59, 14. Todd Hendrickson in Woodstock, Illinois.

2:24:48 5555 Daniel Napier a parts unknown 5510 double nickels on the dime also for Brian Leslie and Bremerton Washington where the ferry goes Michael Miguel Lopez 5510 Chad Psyker 55 Olaf Krigsmann Just about chat, I think it's maybe seeker. I need to read something here hold on a second I got a note from him Adam and John, I've gotten into a bind that only the best podcast in the universe can make right. Long story short, I'm on a business trip and will not make it home in time for my son Caleb's ninth birthday on Thursday. Caleb is an incredible kid and deserves much better. So please wish him, the last name pronounced seeker, a happy birthday from his loving father who feels like a total douche for not being there. I'm sure he would also have a nice chuckle if you could de-douche his dear old dad during the donation segment.

2:25:44 I added this birthday request to my rather meager $55 donation, but since PayPal sucks, I thought it best to follow up. So of course we do that and we'll de-douche. You've been de-douched. We break for dads. Nice. Olof Kriegsmann in Deutschland, Darmstadt. George Tangan in Intergrove Heights, Minnesota, and that's 53. I think Darmstadt means intestine city. I thought it meant the city where there's a lot of dharma. What's dharma? Some Indian thing, I can't remember the exact definition. George Tangan in Intergrove Heights, Minnesota, nuts. These nuts from Austin, Texas, 51-51. Dominic Quigley in London, UK, 51. Vladimir Putin. Yeah, 50, 49.

2:26:45 It says Dame Amanda of the Northeast. She actually gave, he's got a wrong number, that's 50-50. She sent a card. Wait a minute, now can we be arrested for taking money from foreign dignitaries? No, we're not government officials. If Putin wants to send us a lot of money, that's fine with me. And he's off to a great start. Yeah, thanks, Poot. 50 bucks. Thanks, Vlad. Thanks, Poot. Thanks, Poot. Poot. Thanks, Putin. Pootwin. So Dame Amanda, she always has these nice cards that she finds and there's a birthday card. And then she says, welcome to the crusty years for me. Happy birthday to my favorite buzzkill. I'm sending you this after the show 912, which I must say what she says after show 912, which I must say was phenomenal from start to finish. And that was a 50 50 donation from Dame Amanda. I guess my birthday is coming up.

2:27:39 Because I as you to birthday somebody else in a chicken with a birthday. Thank you serve sir herb lamb to April 5th yeah, it's coming up. It's coming up 5033 Maybe you can bring in Napolitano now that Fox has put him on the bench. Yeah, we didn't mention that, but it looks like Napolitano was fired. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes. Oh, I didn't know that at all. Oh, well, yeah, but Napolitano appears to have been fired from Fox for bringing up that GCHQ thing. Yeah. Yeah, they're a very great operation. Cameron Lindemood, 50-33, Gregory

2:28:21 Clesla, Clesla? Ciesla. Ciesla. Ciesla, maybe. Ciesla. Ciesla. He's 5001. And then the rest of these people are fine producers at the $50 level, name and location, if there is a location. Otherwise, just name it. All $50, Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan. Marta Kallstrom Jason Daniels, Patrick Maycomb in New York, New York, Sir Patrick, actually. Sir Brendan Menk in Tempe, Arizona. Andrew Beard in Belmont, North Carolina. Andrew Drake in Port Arthur, Texas. He said something, I don't know what. Mathieu Heli in Gatineau, Quebec.

2:29:08 who's commonly on the Twitters helping us that way. Max Turnquist in Somerville, Massachusetts. Todd Hill, Jessica Knebling, St. Paul, Minnesota. Robert Newby. That's an interesting name to have. parts unknown sandy Geisler or I think sir in Watkinsville, Georgia Reminder people put your titles on your donations. They'll put them in there somewhere David a lot of people put them on the checks that come through the banks. This is right at the top. That's the way to go. Yeah. Yeah, David McLean drew a Veneman Oh Joe Metzger die Dodge

2:29:57 Gaskell, this is a good group, a good long list. Eric and Gaskell's in Pensacola. Eric... Hold on, hold on, hold on. Dodge Gaskell has a birthday. He says, as I turn 50 on Saturday the 25th, I'm donating $50 towards knighthood. My girlfriend Misty is a regular listener now, except she first referred to Adam Curry as Adam Carolla for two weeks and swears JCD is drunk on scotch when on the air. Well, I'm not a big scotch drinker. Nailed it, I'd say. I'm not a big scotch drinker Corolla. I find that unlikely. Yeah, okay, John, it's good. Let's see how you read those names. Eric Elan, I think, or Elan, Elaine, Elan, I'm not sure. 50. And last but not least, Miles Comer.

2:30:51 One more of these and I'll be a knight, he says, so that'll be good for him. And that's our group of producers for show 914. We want to thank each and every one of them and those who donate lesser amounts also for reasons of anonymity or just because they're a subscriber. And it was a good turnout and it did make up for last Sunday, but let's hope that we don't have another last Sunday. Yeah, I really don't like the seesaw stuff. I mean, I'd rather have a... Seesaw stuff's not good. Yeah, it's always disappointing when you... because you sent out a great newsletter to remind everybody, previous show is chock full of information, donations down, you send out another newsletter saying help and then everyone donates.

2:31:32 And you don't want to keep getting the help newsletter. No, no. OK, what did we do? Thank you very much. Yeah, we did get the help we needed. We appreciate that very much. I'm going to give those who need a little bit of jobs karma here. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And remember, another show is coming up on Sunday. Vorac dot org slash and a It's your birthday, birthday. Oh, yeah.

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Birthday Announcements, Title Changes and Knighthoods

The hosts read a list of listener birthdays and announce title changes for long-time supporters. New knights are inducted into the "Roundtable," including Sir Reptitious the Stealthy and Sir Newman, Knight of Gentrified Brooklyn. This segment reinforces the community aspect of the No Agenda "Getmo Nation."

no agenda· birthdays· knighthood· baron· roundtable· community

2:32:07 As discussed, we say happy birthday to Caleb Seeker from your dad, from Chad, who won't be there. He's really sorry. That's obvious. Stefan Kallweit turns 34 today. Garrett Ivester says happy birthday to his girlfriend Megan, turning 23 today. George Tangan, 53 today as well. Sherry Sterko says happy birthday to her husband Ryan, who'll be turning 40 next week. And Dodge Gaskell, 50 years old, on March 25th. Happy birthday from all your friends here and the back office of the best podcast in the universe. And we have, uh, we do. We got a couple of title changes here. We have sir. H M F I C the head mofo in charge becomes sir. HMFIC Baron of the U S armed forces. Sir. Mark Tanner becomes Baron of, I believe Whittier, California and Brian Hertzegger becomes sir. Brian Hertzegger Baron to you gentlemen. Wait,

2:33:02 Mistake he doesn't become a bear, and he's a knight. Sorry. I think that I think I made a mistake I made a mistake. I think also that What mark Tanner has a title that he wants and we probably have to grant it to him next show and we figure out? What it is okay? Cuz I just have I don't think it's a whittier. I have I have incomplete. That's what it says on my sheet Yeah, well back office. Well. That's what it says because it's incomplete. I don't have it no I know yeah, so he's got the right thing there and But he guesses Whittier, but no one's gonna be the Baron of Whittier. He can take all of Orange County. He can take the South Coast. He can have all of the Pacific Ocean. Nah, nobody wants the Pacific Ocean. It's just like Whittier. Nobody wants either one of those. Alright, get your blade out, man. Let's do this. We got a big, we got a nice list here today. Alright, on the podium please, Brian Herziger. There you go. Nicholas Haller.

2:33:59 Jeroen Sloats, Simon Horn, Ben Smith and Eric Newman. Gentlemen, you all have contributed to the No Agenda Show, best podcast in the university, amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore you deserve your spot at the round table of the Knights of the Danes. And so I very proudly pronounce the K-D, surveilled of Nebraska nuts, survived. of the virtual reality. Sir Yerun Slote, Sir Manly, who is a black knight, Sir Repetitious the Stealthy, and Sir Newman, Knight of Gentrified Brooklyn. For you gentlemen, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, sake and sushi with asabi and soy sauce on the side. We got breast milk and pavloon sparkling cider escort, ginger ale and gerbils and mutton and mead all at noageneration.com slash rings head over there and Eric DeShiel will get you your ring.

2:34:42 And here I have Mark Tanner's note, which you should have read, but I'll read it now because it's a good note. And he's a constant contributor. He says, just to let you know that Job Karma worked. We gave him some Job Karma. He was out of work, so he stopped giving us a twice monthly $50 donation. I found a much better, higher paying job. I sent you $100, will arrive on March 23rd. Also restarted the bi-weekly contribution starting $331, up them to $5533." Ooh, thank you. So that's twice a month. To put my above all other $50 donors, it was to be higher than them. Please put me down for a little title change to Barron, but again, he doesn't say what it is.

2:35:22 He does say this, he wants a call out, add my granddaughter Georgia Quinn Negrete to the birthday list on April 22nd. We'll have to move that to the...unless she was mentioned. We'll have to move that to the next show. So we'll do that for her. Hi, Georgia. Okay, Georgia. No, we did not. We do not have Georgia. Back office. That was my fault. I will. I don't believe I shifted this note over there, but I'll check if I did. That's right. Supposedly we would all be engulfed in lawsuits and Armageddon was going to all hell was going to break loose, but it doesn't seem that it's happened yet. In fact,

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Saudi Arabia 9/11 Lawsuit, JASTA Legislation

A major lawsuit involving 800 victims' families and 1,500 first responders is moving forward against Saudi Arabia for alleged involvement in the 9/11 attacks. The legal action was made possible by the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), which Congress passed by overriding President Obama's veto. The lawsuit alleges Saudi officials facilitated the hijackers' stay in the U.S.

saudi arabia· 9/11· jasta· barack obama· james clapper· terrorism· lawsuit

2:36:06 It's not really even being reported. The lawsuit accuses Saudi officials of helping some of the 9-11 terrorists before the attacks. Yes, John, that's right. It's on. After the bill was passed that the families could sue Saudi Arabia for the revelations finally released in the 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission report, which were kept secret, Now, the lawsuit is on, and Gaian has it for us. Remember, 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. It accuses embassy officials, Saudi embassy officials, of facilitating their stay in the United States. They've yet to prove that the officials knew what the hijackers were up to, of course.

2:36:46 The lawsuit alleges that a Saudi official was even in the same hotel in Virginia with hijackers the night before the attacks. It also claims that members of the Saudi royal family were aware that funds from Saudi charities were being funneled to al-Qaeda. The lawsuit describes how the purported money was being transferred from the charities to the terrorist organization. Saudi Arabia denies any involvement in the 9-11 attacks. Behind the legal action are the families of 800 victims of 9-11, as well as 1,500 first responders. This lawsuit was made possible after Congress passed a bill last year that would strip Saudi Arabia of immunity from prosecution. It was the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act.

2:37:31 President Obama vetoed the bill, but Congress had enough votes to override the president's veto, and they did. The previous administration claimed that the bill would set a bad precedent and could expose U.S. diplomats and servicemen to litigation in other countries. After many years of pressure from the public, last July, the U.S. government declassified 28 pages from the 9-11 Commission report, which say that some of the 9-11 hijackers received financial support from individuals connected to the Saudi government. Some parts of the 28 pages still remain redacted. Here's President Obama in April of last year. This has been a process which we generally deal with through the

2:38:18 intelligence community and Jim Clapper, our director of national intelligence, has been going through to make sure that whatever it is that is released is not going to compromise some major national security interests of the United States. It is unclear how far this lawsuit will go or what precedent it would set but the 9-11 victims families all these years later are making clear they have no tolerance for secrecy. Under reported as far as I'm concerned Under reported wasn't reported. Yeah Only by the propaganda outfit. Yeah, the propaganda certainly was a reported it and propaganda guys Oh John, I hate I hate to do it, but I got You know, I'm really all over the map today I meant to hit this

CHAPTER 40 / 49 Discussion

BBC Climate Change Report, Miami Flooding and Mar-a-Lago

A BBC report claims that Miami Beach is becoming a "modern-day Atlantis" due to rising sea levels. The report specifically targets President Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate, predicting a quarter of the property will be underwater in decades. The hosts point out that Miami's flooding is often caused by water seeping through porous limestone rather than simple sea-level rise.

bbc· climate change· miami beach· mar-a-lago· global warming· porous limestone

2:39:09 Boy you are Yeah, I was rattled because I had a tremendous fail and I don't know if I can recover well you were covered by the next show I'm hoping but if you're gonna play that theme you might as well play this somebody can I play the clip that I played the theme for you want to hijack it I'm not hijacking. I just want this. I think this will be... Well, play the clip. But this is a similar thing to what you just played as the intro. Well, give it to me. This was offered by somebody saying we should use it. I said no, we can't use it because we didn't, uh, we haven't been given permission to use it, but we could play it once, I think. Okay, what is it? And I think it applies to what your clip is. What is it? The Captain Planet theme song. Captain Planet. Wind! Watch who! By your powers combined, I am Captain Planet! Captain Planet!

2:40:15 Yeah, you're right it's too long I just want a little thing. No, I just want a little climate gate thing. Just a little bit of, from the BBC. So filled with hate, they cannot even do a climate change report without disparaging our president. First at six, flooding concerns, new fears. The southern coast of Florida has long been America's playground. But the Sunshine State has become a gorgeous front line in the fight against global warming. Flooding emergency along coastal cities today in South Florida. Rising sea waters and recurring flooding is turning Miami Beach into a modern-day Atlantis, a city being submerged by water. A modern-day Atlantis, John. A modern-day Atlantis. Now, there's a little thing in this report, it's really about the end that's funny, but there's a little bit in this report that isn't often discussed when it comes to Miami flooding. And even on sunny days, it can get inundated because it's built on porous limestone and water seeps up through the ground. Oh.

2:41:17 I didn't realize that. Miami is built on porous limestone. The water is seeping up through the ground, not flowing from the beach into the streets with the fish flopping around. I didn't know this. Do we have that old clip about the fish flopping around? Probably. Supposedly you drive down a highway in Miami and there's fish. You can actually run them over and then eat them. Let me see if I can find that. That'd be funny if I could. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think this is it. Or is this just a... No, that's just a... It's just sound effects for when we played the bit. I don't think I have it on hand. I don't know what it would be called. Fish Miami maybe? Florida? That would be what it would be called, Fish Miami. Uh, hold on. I can probably find it here. Yes. Yeah. I found it. Wow, great report. Gee, that was great going back in time. I'm just gonna stick with what I know today. Adam, there's a bunch of fish in Miami. I'm just gonna stick with what I know today. How about... It seeps up through the ground. Miami Beach has about

2:42:29 In my estimation, 30 years left before there's going to be too much water to pump it out and it's going to cost too much money. Local resident Dan Kipnis gave us a tour of the newly built flood defences. But scientists fear they'll be obsolete in just a few decades time. But don't tell that to all these people building all these new houses and apartments. They don't want to hear it. They're in total denial. Total denial. It alarms him that America's new president is a climate change skeptic. Our so-called president thinks it's a hoax. Don't you love that? Our so-called president. I love it when people do that. I would salute you, sir. Such a patriot. Our so-called president thinks it's a hoax. It's a Chinese hoax. I mean, I can't believe it. I live right in the middle of climate change every day. Every day.

2:43:19 We've come up the Florida coastline to Mar-El-Lago, Donald Trump's luxury residence, a place he refers to as his winter White House. It's a waterfront property where the waves lap against the sturdy peach-coloured sea wall. And it shows how the effects of climate change are being felt on the president's front doorstep. Because it's estimated that over the coming decades, a quarter of this property will be inundated with water. Thank You BBC okay mark the date yeah March 23rd 2027 when of course we'll still be doing this damn show Probably we'll be right if we're lucky or if the public's lucky actually we wouldn't be that lucky no Enough said hello Hey Mike working just briefly about the the attack in London yesterday

CHAPTER 41 / 49 Discussion

London Westminster Terror Attack, CBS News Report

CBS News provides a detailed report on the terror attack at Westminster Bridge and the Houses of Parliament. An attacker drove a car into pedestrians before stabbing a police officer; four people were killed. Prime Minister Theresa May was evacuated as Parliament went into lockdown. The hosts evaluate the report as a rare example of decent corporate journalism.

london· westminster bridge· parliament· terror attack· theresa may· elizabeth palmer

2:44:16 I have the whole report if you want to hear it. Yeah, do you have a background report or something we can do? Yeah, it's the background. It's actually the complete background around CBS. I thought they did a pretty good job. It's a little long, but you can play as much as you want. It's kind of written in a journalistic style. It's not as interesting at the end. Western edition. Just as the British were on guard for a possible terror attack in the sky, they were struck today on the ground in the heart of London. A driver plowed a car into a group of pedestrians, then stabbed a police officer. At least four people, including the officer, were killed. Forty others were wounded. The attacker was shot to death by the police and Elizabeth Palmer is in London.

2:45:00 There has been a terror attack. In only seconds, a car speeding along the sidewalk left a trail of broken and bleeding bodies strewn across one of London's busiest bridges. Seconds later, the car had crashed into the railings around Parliament, setting off a panicked rush. In the chaos, shots rang out. It turned out the driver had shoved past security into Parliament's grounds and started to stab a policeman until he was fatally shot by another officer. The attack began in early afternoon when Parliament was in session, but astonished politicians were suddenly told it was in lockdown. I am now going to suspend the sitting of the House. This House is now suspended, but please wait here.

2:45:53 British Prime Minister Theresa May was whisked to safety while on the nearby bridge paramedics helped the injured and fought to save the dying. Sunita and Bobby Nagy, tourists from India, saw the whole attack unfold. He was speeding on the pavement and he was knocking off people walking by. So there was a big sound one after the other. Sunita ran. Bobby started filming. One victim flung under a bus. Another lying still in the middle of the road. surrounded by shocked bystanders. I immediately told my wife that this is an attack. It's a terrorist attack. There was no question in your mind that he was going for as many people as he could get.

2:46:39 Yeah, he was. He was just going on and on. He didn't stop. One British member of Parliament on his way to work did his best to save the stabbed policeman, but a short time later, he died. Police say a full terrorist investigation is underway into the most serious attack in London since the deadly subway bombings of 2005. Prime Minister Theresa May did meet with senior intelligence chiefs this afternoon against a backdrop of so many smaller tragedies, individual tragedies. Scotland Yard hasn't released the name of the attacker but just in the last couple of minutes they have announced that they do believe they know who it was. And no official account of a motive. Elizabeth Palmer at the Palace of Westminster Forest tonight.

2:47:32 Alright, good report and I appreciate you clipping that because a lot of people... It's a little long. Well, no, it's okay. A lot of people don't listen to corporate media because they know they'll get it from us and I think this was a pretty decent report. Now the identity is known. Not a good dude. 52 though. all kinds of run-ins with the law. But really... Before your analysis, I do want to point out two things. One, at the beginning of this whole report, Scott Pelley says that the British were expecting an air attack. Well, it's even crazier than that because they did a... They had a drill the day before in the exact area, but it was a maritime attack. They simulated a hijacking of a tourist boat on the Thames.

CHAPTER 42 / 49 Discussion

Katie Hopkins on London Multiculturalism, Security Drills

The hosts discuss the aftermath of the London attack, noting that a maritime security drill had taken place on the Thames just the day before. They play a clip of commentator Katie Hopkins, who argues that London is a "nation of ghettos" and that the "we stand united" message is a liberal myth. Hopkins claims the UK is losing its culture due to unintegrated enclaves.

katie hopkins· london· multiculturalism· terror attack· theresa may· security drills· 4chan

2:48:18 as part of training for a possible terrorist attack. Which maybe explains why they got the woman who got, you know, bounced right over the side of the bridge into the water. Maybe that's why they got her so fast. I think she's alive. But the The response, very, very typical. I don't have a clip, but I heard somewhere on one of the bull crap news networks, someone saying, why hasn't Trump used this yet? Why hasn't he tweeted about it yet? Why hasn't he tweeted about immigration? This is where to get you. No, this has nothing to do with immigration. This has everything to do with the multicultural society. We'll get to that in a moment, but just listen to NBC, the NBC reporter coming in from London. This is really going to have an impact

2:48:58 on politics outside of that. This is an issue that is really affecting so many people here in Britain. We've seen this rise of a kind of a right-wing movement here and throughout Europe. And this has only put wind in the sails of those who would say that this is an issue that needs to be that needs to be looked at, that needs to be examined in terms of refugees, this is a conversation that's going on in the States. But it should be noted that MI5, which is the domestic intelligence agency and police agency for the UK, they've come out and said that there is no terror link so far. And what they said here... They're investigating. Yeah, good point. They're saying that it's too early to say certainly that it isn't. They're still trying to get a lockdown.

2:49:44 So, you see, it's all about, oh, the right-wingers, they're going to use this as fuel. I don't think so. This is about the multicultural society. And how... Nigel Farage came on one of the shows, I didn't clip it, but he came on and that's what you're saying is exactly what he said. What I think was a great example of, or yeah, a good example of explaining this, explaining this, is Katie Hopkins. I like Katie Hopkins a lot. People in the UK don't like Katie Hopkins. They hate her. The people in London hate her. The people in the UK in general. Exactly. London. Bam. Nailed it.

2:50:22 across at me. You know, they are London. London is a liberal city. And we've seen a lot of this tonight after the attacks, after everything that's gone on here today. You know, coming from the rest of the U.K., this foreign country compared to London, people are sad. People feel—I feel smaller as a result of the attacks today. I feel that we've been taken from. You know, we're a country that spends so much time tiptoeing around the cultures that choose to join us and not enough time defending the culture they've chosen to join. But because I say those things, I am widely hated for those views. And what I'm tired of hearing on the media everywhere at the moment here is, we will not be cowed by terror. We stand united. Because the big news is, that's the message in London. That is not the message here in the UK. People are cowed.

2:51:17 are absolutely divided more than any time in its past and we are in fact a nation of ghettos. I can go to the west of London and I'll find the Afghanis, I'll go to the east of London I'll find the Eritreans, they don't speak to the Somalis who don't speak to the Syrians. All that conflict, all that war,

2:51:57 all that tension, that didn't get left behind, they just brought it here. They are enclaves of individuals here in the city. And if we imagine we're united, that we stand strong, that's a lie. All of these hashtags, you know, lights, visuals, candles, making hearts one year on from Brussels, that means nothing. Put that stuff away. Don't turn the lights on the Eiffel Tower. That isn't a solution. We need a solution. We need to protect this country and for the views of many outside of this liberal city, we are losing the country we loved. Exactly. Exactly right. And all my friends in the UK say the same thing. Even my friends in London. So that's very, very problematic. Rex Tillerson for some reason

CHAPTER 43 / 49 Discussion

Rex Tillerson on ISIS Ideology, Westminster CCTV Cuts

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke about the need to combat the "warped interpretation of Islam" that fuels ISIS. Meanwhile, it is revealed that the Westminster Council had recently switched off its entire network of CCTV cameras in the area of the London attack to save one million pounds. The hosts find the timing of these security budget cuts suspicious.

rex tillerson· isis· islam· westminster council· cctv· surveillance· budget cuts

2:52:48 was talking about this. Here's a quick clip about what his assessment is of ISIS terrorists. We also must look this enemy's ideology. By the way, Mr. President, please, please, we've talked about this before, have- get some professional audio people in your group, will you? This is crap. And Tillerson has a good voice. It's just over-modulated. He's got a nice voice. They got jabronis, jamoks running the show. We also must look this enemy's ideology in the eyes for what it is, a warped interpretation of Islam that threatens all of our people. As his majesty King Abdullah II of Jordan has recently said, and I quote, everything they are, everything they do is a blatant violation of my faith, end quote.

2:53:38 ISIS fighters are not all from poor or impoverished communities. Many come from middle class or even upper class backgrounds, drawn to a radical and false utopian vision that purports to be based upon the Koran. Muslim partners and leaders of their faith must combat this perverse ideological message. And we are grateful that so many have and are ready to take up this responsibility. All right. Good old Rex. A couple other annoying bits about this. Westminster Council, that's the area of course where this took place. Let me see, when was this? This was... yeah, June of 2016. They decided to switch off the entire network of closed circuit TV cameras all along the bridge, the whole area.

2:54:36 I think it would have been handy to have that, don't you? We could see what we, at least we might know what happened. That's very suspicious if you ask me. Yeah, all council CCTV networks are a massive resource to police, have a massive impact on bringing down anti-social behavior, crime, drug dealing, very valuable. That was the pro argument, but Westminster's cabinet member for public protection said it could no longer afford to pay for the service. Ah, okay, well they couldn't afford to it and it's a non-statutory service, which means it's not legally required. So it was a cost savings of a million pounds. Well, there you go. I think it would have been quite handy. And I'd like to tell our producers who actually believe that

CHAPTER 44 / 49 Discussion

Helena Humphrey Twitter Dispute, Media Deconstruction

Deutsche Welle business reporter Helena Humphrey engaged in a Twitter dispute with the hosts, accusing them of "outrageous sexist commentary." The hosts defend their practice of deconstructing the "on-air personas" of media figures, which they have done for a decade. They note that Humphrey's own social media is heavily focused on opposition to President Trump.

helena humphrey· deutsche welle· twitter· sexism· media deconstruction· journalism

2:55:23 an intelligence insider went on 4chan, posted a URL in Morse code, which then had binary for the GPS coordinates of Big Ben. If you think that that actually is some kind of warning this was going to happen, and if you actually believe that FBI informants are on 4chan, you need to check your privilege. That's crazy. I'm so tired of this. Nothing that's been on 4chan has come out. Nothing. Yeah, remember all the files from Anthony Weiner. Yeah, the insider says, no, stop it. And then finally we're in trouble, John. Oh, we're in trouble with Helena Humphrey. Oh, Helena Humphrey, the pretty business reporter for Deutsche Welle. Yeah, well, she was been did you not see her tweeting us? She did. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I will read you the tweets stream.

2:56:25 Am I on this tweet thing that she got my real Dvorak on there? I don't see it. At Adam Curry at the real Dvorak. Disgusted by the way you talk about women. No one should be spoken about in that way, man or woman. So I... That's great. Wait, I come back. I say, we deconstruct media like your bosses do. Purely TV executive talk. Our listeners know that. Fair? Is that a fair response? I think it's a fine response. Her response. Exactly what we do. Her response. Not in my case! It was an outrageous, sexist commentary. So she's got something, she's got some hang-up about the, that kinda, she has kind of a...

2:57:02 Yeah, yeah, okay. Do you want me to read the tweets? Yes, keep reading. Because I think that will probably answer your question. Not in my case! It was an outrageous sexist commentary which any intelligent human would be ashamed of. Oh, this goes in the newsletter. You gotta find it. Wait, and now I reply. Sorry you feel that way. We've been doing this for ten years. And then I link to currydvorak.com, which is our consulting group. I thought that was funny. Yeah. Nothing. Okay. But then her response? And clearly you represent man that has not evolved in over 400,000 years. Wow! Now, I think she should be very happy.

2:57:51 with her 1,400 followers, sorry, 1,342 followers. She follows more people than are following her. She'd be very happy that we're mentioning her and we were extremely complimentary. Yes, we were. About her work and her work. She obviously does not appreciate that publicity is good publicity. No, and she looks dynamite. She dresses beautifully. Yeah, yeah, she does. And we deconstruct media. Yes, yeah, so we have to deconstruct The appearance that people put forward to get their points across sometimes it's used as part of the influence factor.

2:58:32 Yeah, whatever you said. I don't know. But for sure, I'm sad that she took it that way. I am sad too. She's obviously a... We actually like her. We think she looks great. We think she's a rising star. We point this out as any good television... She told me if she has that attitude in broadcasting, that's for sure. Well, if you go look at her tweet stream, it's all Trump hate. And she's a journalist. Trump hate. Trump hate. Just a lot of Trump hate. She doesn't know a thing about it, but she's all on board with Trump hate. I don't mind so much, you know, people like Rob Reiner, some of our local Hollywood types and people going crazy with Trump hate. But when somebody in Germany or, you know, somebody in Great Britain, when the writer of the Harry Potter novels, people that aren't even Americans, they're not in America, they have no clue what's really going on.

2:59:23 Start to they get on the bandwagon as though it's like they're a local politician I find that incredibly offensive if she wants to talk about somebody being offended I'm incredibly offended if she's writing Trump hate stuff She's as far as I can tell she's not an American Additionally her Twitter handle has the three brackets around it Mm-hmm, which is like the anti anti Jew thing. Yeah. Yeah, so how come you don't have a flag British flag with sad smile sad smiley? frowny face. Yeah, well anyway, well anyway still I think she still presents herself well, but I thought as as as a little a an olive branch I'd like to reach out to Helena Humphrey and I'd like to give you something to hate on and we need a jingle for this for the Trump cast that's the president's address, you know used to be the Barack Obama's podcast now, it's a Donald Trump's podcast. This is the narcissistic quote of the day my fellow Americans. I

CHAPTER 45 / 49 Discussion

Donald Trump Andrew Jackson Tribute, Narcissistic Quote

President Trump released a weekly address commemorating the 250th anniversary of Andrew Jackson's birth. Trump praised Jackson for fighting the "arrogant elite" of his day, drawing parallels to his own presidency. The hosts play the clip as their "Narcissistic Quote of the Day," highlighting the self-referential nature of the President's historical tributes.

donald trump· andrew jackson· nashville· war of 1812· narcissistic quote· podcast

3:00:24 This week I traveled to Nashville, Tennessee to lay a wreath at the grave of Andrew Jackson on the 250th anniversary of his birth. Jackson was an American hero, first as a brilliant general whose crushing defeat of the British at New Orleans saved our independence in the War of 1812, and later as the seventh president of the United States when he fought to defend the forgotten men and women from the arrogant elite of his day. Does it sound familiar? Bing-bing-bong-bong-bing-bing. Narcissistic quote of the day.

3:01:04 Now, Helena, you can go report on that, because we think that's pretty funny too. Sounds familiar. Does it sound familiar? Oh man, I love that. Fabulous. Well, that was interesting that that happened. How did I miss it? I have no idea. But I'm glad you picked up the cudgel. The Kudgel? Indeed what you picked up. The Kudgel? I think it's called the Kudgel. You picked up the... I've never heard of this. You picked it up. Oh, never heard of this. I do want to say that it appears that big aggregation of US troops in Kuwait appears now to be for some kind of Syria op.

CHAPTER 46 / 49 Discussion

Alaska Airlines Virgin America Merger, Marvel Comic Cancellations

Alaska Airlines is officially retiring the Virgin America brand following their merger, a move the hosts lament due to Virgin's superior service. In other news, Marvel Comics is reportedly canceling eight titles, including Ghost Rider. The hosts predict this will be a major topic of mourning across the "tech podcast" circuit.

alaska airlines· virgin america· richard branson· marvel comics· ghost rider· andy ihnatko

3:01:44 This is stuff you won't hear about anywhere, but there's tons of US troop movements and they're aggregating, congregating, they're staging, I guess, staging in Kuwait, Kuwait City mainly for the move out. And so that would be apparently for Syria. I still don't have absolute confirmation, but it seems that way. And Virgin America is gone. Yeah, they've been gone. I mean, they did the deal some time ago we talked about. Yeah, but Alaska Airlines, Richard Branson did a whole thing. Alaska Airlines is gonna close it down. They're just gonna suck in the planes, the names, the brands going, everything's going, everything's going away. It's just gonna be Alaskan Airlines. Oh yeah, heaven forbid that you get on a nice plane, Virgin America plane that's comfortable.

3:02:34 and with nice service and, you know, it's a little somewhat trendy and get back on one of those Alaskan no-food flights. And by the way, most Alaskan flights are delayed. They say that they're going to integrate some of the outstanding service perks. That makes sense. Sure they are. Sure. They could have done that without buying the airline, right? I would say, right. Why did Richard Branson even sell the airline? I think they're losing their asses. Thank you, exactly, exactly. Then some sad news for tech podcasters everywhere. Does Andy Anotko still do his podcast? The one, the Anotko Almanac? Yes. Almanac? Yes. No, I think he stopped it in October. Well, I guarantee you for the next two weeks at least on every single tech

3:03:25 Podcast you here. You will hear the story with great sadness that Marvel Comics is going to be cancelling up to eight titles, including Ghost Rider. I can just see hearts breaking everywhere. Well, Natko's a big comic book guy. I once advocated that. Yes, he's a big comic book guy. But I once advocated that they give him a show on that Twitnet work because it'd be perfect for their audience and it would be very interesting to people. There are a lot of people out there that like to talk about and hear about and yak about comics. And I was dead serious, but you know, it didn't happen.

CHAPTER 47 / 49 Discussion

Arkansas Concealed Carry Law, Austin Sanctuary City Stats

Arkansas has signed a new law allowing concealed handguns on state college campuses and in some bars. Meanwhile, data from Travis County, Texas, shows that over 260 illegal aliens with criminal records were released despite ICE detainers. The hosts discuss the contrast between expanding gun rights and the challenges of sanctuary city policies.

arkansas· concealed carry· second amendment· ice· sanctuary cities· austin· travis county

3:04:09 I'm now, by the way, I'm not one of them. I find it very tedious to listen to chit-chat about comic books. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I thought that was it. That was all the chit-chat you get from me. Well, I got a little, I got a thing here that kind of applies to you. This is a clip. Armed in Arkansas. I was recently. Back in this country, the governor of Arkansas signed a law allowing concealed handguns at state colleges, other government sites and some bars. Gun owners would have up to eight hours of active shooter training. Have to have. Supporters said it will let law-abiding people defend themselves. Opponents said that it will make everyday life more dangerous. Everyday life is more dangerous.

3:04:53 How does that work with the stats that come out of states like Texas? Well, I'm glad you asked that because there's a lot of reporting now about between, I think January 28th and February 2nd, there were over 3,000 ICE notices that went out for states to hold on to illegal aliens who were arrested for a crime. And over 260 of them were released. So the criminals arrested for a crime, illegal aliens, released from the sanctuary, well it's Travis County, but that is the sanctuary city of Austin, Texas. So we have at least 268 criminals. It could be anything from shoplifting to God knows what. But I'm happy I am packing heat.

3:05:45 And they probably know that. I like the way the story was presented was also intriguing, which is that they had, you know, they don't do this with climate stories. They don't do this with a lot of stories, but they had to have the balance. So opponents said it was bad. Make us all die. Exactly. Well, since you brought that in, I just have to play this. I'm going to move most of my Supreme Court nominations, all of it really, over to Sunday. But I did, I like this guy Gorsuch. It seems like he will become, and this is really what the election was about. I mean, I cannot overstate how important. That's why they're trying to stall it. This is really what it's about because we have four conservatives, four liberals, the fifth one, you know, of course everyone's afraid or everyone's happy. It upsets the balance. It's very, it is really a big deal.

CHAPTER 48 / 49 Discussion

Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court Hearings, Second Amendment Testimony

Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch faced questioning from Senator Dianne Feinstein regarding the Second Amendment and the Heller decision. Gorsuch maintained that he follows the law as written rather than expressing personal policy preferences. Dvorak expresses skepticism of Gorsuch, characterizing him as a "smug weasel" and comparing him to Justice Breyer.

neil gorsuch· supreme court· second amendment· heller decision· dianne feinstein· antonin scalia

3:06:41 Of course, the problem is Gorsuch's name was known. He was on the list of 20 or whatever it was that Trump published. It's going to be one of these people. And he's already been confirmed by Senate unanimously. Love the guy. It was always great. And there was this 10th Circuit judge. And now, of course, they're trying to trap him and trick him on all kinds of stuff. Yeah, they're not getting very far. But I'll tell you something. I don't like this guy. Oh, really? Tell me why not. I think he's a little too slick, a little too cool, a little too, you know, bobbing the head around like Jay Leno when he used to do his monologues. He's just... yeah, I do have a clip from him. Maybe he has Tourette's. No, he does not have Tourette's. This is the Gorsuch humor clip which was floating around Twitter and I thought I'd clip it and put it on the show. John Hancock is now synonymous with a signature. No one remembers who John Hancock was.

3:07:32 But they know that that's a signature because he wrote his name so bigly big. You just said bigly. That's pretty funny. Is there more to the clip we should listen to? Yeah, a little bit. Just another gag. And I just won five bucks. He embarrassed me in front of my nephew and he loves it. He's the one paying me the five bucks. That's a little too buddy-buddy stuff for my taste. Well, and I was talking to Tina about that. You know, we had this, I think there was another one, I don't even think you can clip it, but all the Republicans were making jokes and was funny and having a good time and then all the Democrats are being total a-holes.

3:08:28 Here is Feinstein asking about the Second Amendment, in particular the Heller Amendment. and really trying to catch him, because every single one of the Republicans was trying to get him to state his opinion. And he just would say, no, I don't have an opinion, I just follow the law. Justice Scalia also wrote that, quote, weapons that are most useful in military service, M16 rifles and the like, may be banned, end quote, without infringing on the Second Amendment. Do you agree with that statement, that under the Second Amendment, weapons that are most useful in military service, M16 rifles and the like, may be banned? Senator, Heller makes clear the standard that we judges are supposed to apply. The question is whether it's a gun in common use for self-defense

3:09:25 And that may be subject to reasonable regulation. That's the test as I understand it. There's lots of ongoing litigation about which weapons qualify. under those standards and I can't prejudge that litigation. No, I'm just asking you do you agree with his statement yes or no? Are those statements out of the Heller decision from the United States? Justice Scalia's statement. Well, whatever's in Heller is the law and I follow the law. Well, it's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, Senator, respectfully. It's a matter of it being the law and my job is to apply and enforce the law.

3:10:02 So you think he's too squirrely? I like that. That's all you want him to do. I think he's a weasel. Smug weasel. I can see that. I mean, putting my hat on, I can see that. I mean, I have, you know, when I first nominated him, when he first came up, he seemed like a really great guy, good guy to go have a beer with. But the more, and he's been through three days of this, the more I see him, the less I like him. Well, uh, it's just a gut thing. I don't know. That's good. Judge, but it seems to me that, you know, he reminds you a little bit of Briar, right? Also a smug a hole. And you know, he just thinks he knows it all. He's the smartest guy in the room kind of guy. And I just find these guys, I don't like Briar either. I think he's just smug. Well, I got my ears. When you, when you call something like that, then I'm of course, I'm going to pay attention on like a holes on the face bag.

CHAPTER 49 / 49 Discussion

Al Franken Constitution Comments, Show Outro

Senator Al Franken claimed during the Gorsuch hearings that the Constitution he swore to defend looks "very different" from the one revered by Justice Scalia. The hosts mock this as a "different font" theory of law. The episode concludes with a montage of "fake news" soundbites, listener-requested Yoko Ono clips, and a final sign-off.

al franken· neil gorsuch· constitution· no agenda· end of show· yoko ono

3:10:54 The final bit, which came straight from the alternate universe, that's why I have to play it before we leave, is Senator Al Franken, who was a total douche during the whole thing, and he had a little statement in here that I thought was interesting. Judge Gorsuch, while no one can dispute that the late Judge Scalia's love of the Constitution, the document he revered looks very different from the one that I have sworn to support and defend. So he has a different constitution. Maybe it's a different font.

3:11:31 Using comic sans. Exactly. Came from the alternate universe. All right, and that's it. I got other stuff. We'll keep it for Sunday. We are way over time. I have, yeah, I got some stuff we can push off. I mean, we are way over time. But, you know, people came out in droves and supported us, so I don't mind. I don't mind working extra hard. Fine. We can, we can move this. I can't imagine there being any more interesting news between now and Sunday. Oh, nothing could happen. No. Nothing ever happened. Okie dokie. And we'll talk a little bit about the words again in the show. I have not received any jingles for it yet. No. Sadly. Well, somebody's listening. That's right. Alright everybody, thank you very much for tuning in if you're on the live stream. Yes, I remember all the stuff. Yeah, trigger warning, Yoko coming up in the end sequence as requested.

3:12:27 And remember us for Sunday's show, Dvorak.org slash NA. Thank you for your courage. And coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper here in downtown Austin, Texas, it is the capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region 6, if you're looking for it on any government maps. Until Sunday in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, It's a nice day out, but it's chilly, but sunny and bright. I'm John C. DuBois. We will be back on Sunday with another episode right here on NO Agenda. Till then, adios, mofos! Fake news. Fake news. It's all fake news. It's all fake news.

3:13:37 I'm changing it from fake news though. Very fake news. Dude, America kicked Hillary's ass and the Democrats, not the damn Russians. Can you give me some credit here? The big swing in Johnson, bro. Not the Russians! Get that thing in your head! We gotta get to the rubbish sale. What are you doing? Horse feathers is a big one. I remember the phrase, plant potatoes in those ears. The idea of this is to reintroduce cool sounding phrases. I'm gonna give you five

3:14:35 But it needs to break and it was really nice. But this is no grass monkey out there cojones But this time the breath of Russians invaded us, but it needs to break to look like the wild man of 40 Russians invaded us and it was really nice, but this time the Russians invaded us, but it needs to break Going to the law. It's a brass monkey out there to look like the wild much. This is normal I have hostile foreign power, I'm like, okay, cool. Better than Kelsey's nuts. Later when I receive my Insta break. I don't want people sending those in. I put an Insta break. View and picture, and it was really nice. But the Russians invaded, and it was really nice. I put an Insta break. Damn, they're rich as a whore. N-A-H-A-U-N-I-S.

3:15:41 Let your alligator mouth purpose. Send e-mail. So Russians invaded for the Easter break. Purpose. Send her a- We gotta get to the rubbish sale! Hey, rubbish! What are you- Hey man, fist bump. very dangerous and very effective destabilization campaign underway against this president, his administration, and his agenda. Destroy his presidency and they would like to see the man in prison. Donald Trump is an alien organism that has been injected into the body politics by the American people to reform him. They want to personally destroy him in order to reject him out of the system. They want for blood and the reason they have to destroy him.

3:16:51 This is a war. This is a war, war, war, war, war, war, war. This is a war, war, war. They will not end until you must not be allowed to succeed. They are for life. They have sworn to this day, they have sworn to everybody around him. This is a war, war, war, war, war, war, war. They will not end until the president is denied. They are for life. And the reason they have been convicted is this is a war, war, war, war, war, war, war. This is a war, war, war. In the morning.

3:17:49 This penis party's got to go, hey hey! This penis party's got to go, hey hey! This penis party's got to go, hey hey! This penis party's got to go! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Thanks Obama.