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00:00 Tiny hands, tiny hands! Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. And Sunday March 19th 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode Niner One Three This is no agenda Hop nubbing with the Noah Jenner elites and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in southern Silicon Valley, in The Fortress known as Chez Foley. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I am not in a fortress, I'm not in a chez... ...and I'm not in a chez lounge. I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! On his feet as usual Nice Yeah you nailed it That was good Yeah that was all on the fly

00:44 Unbelievable. Yeah, does he do it? How does he do it everybody in the morning coming to you from the fortress here and southern Silicon Valley belonging talking about Fortress Okay, your ed Foley's mansion I am that's the fortress yeah Yes, and you were at the fortress as well yes, I showed up last night to say hello to do my part Meet the meet-and-greet yeah Got to meet the lovely Tina. Yes, and you know what I of course missed the meeting Dr Livingstone I presume and Tina said that you came right in and she stuck out her hand And you said no no no we're gonna be hugging tonight exactly We're in California She's you know

01:33 And besides, I know her virtually for years. Yeah well this is true. This is true. So hugging's acceptable even though in California of course hugging is acceptable in all situations? Yes of course and if you don't like it move out of the state yeah but some people don't like it Hugging?! Yeah Well you know where... California hugging just gratuitous bullcrap hugging! Well there's not really where I grew up where we have to do three kisses Oh yeah, the three kisses. Yeah, the Dutch are three kisses. Well in Brazil it's two. Brazil is two kisses. France I think is one. But in Holland men also kiss each other goodbye with three kisses if they know each other not just like hey thanks for the... Well and then Saudi Arabia give themselves a big wet

02:19 Kiss on the lips, men. Yeah and you see a picture of George Bush I think you see these pictures it's hard to catch because they don't let photographers do it but these Arabs only give me a big kiss Well you were kind of the hit of the party John first of all You came from farthest you drove an hour-and-a-half to come here that was appreciated by all Yes in this long way And everyone thought your sketchers were great and your hoodie was on point Sketchers you notice no one else was dressed in a hoodie for the party, but you were on point. No I was the hoodie one It was one of the South Dakota State University one of their football They won they won this NCAA championship five years in a row and every year one of the alumni sends me a hoodie Yeah And that was there third dude that was the one of the better ones got a huge logo on it now yeah So yeah III thought I carefully considered that outfit

03:16 It was apparent. Should I wear this hoodie or should I wear that hoodie? Then, of course you left exactly after two hours and how do i know this You said, okay I'm gonna leave now and Tina said oh you're leaving? And John you apparently said to her yeah it's been exactly two hours. I'm going home now. Did you pre-plan that two hours was your budget? I had a time I wanted to get back by so i could finish my clips. Oh okay well show prep this is true. Oh yeah and I had to entertain the troops here until 2 in the morning you know so... Yeah I'm sure you're in great shape but..oh yeah! So you brought uh a number of them with thank you very much over

03:57 the past, what two and a half year period since we've seen each other? Right. Which by the way everyone notices to say you know you guys haven't seen each other for 2 1⁄2 years and now... Well, but how come you're not like talking and hanging out together? We really don't have... We're sick of each other. Yeah! I talk to him all the time. Yeah, yeah. We talked for three hours twice a week six hours a week iIdon't think we were there's much to catch up on And boy, I'm sorry man this 9am start time on a Sunday I'd forgotten about that You know, Mr 11 am in Austin

04:36 9 a.m.. Is is a little yeah, you got to get up at 7. Why do we do this? Well that this this is the point that we're going to discuss today Because I forgot why we set this this particular time. I remember I think I remember This was like 10 years ago we decided to do it at this hour. Yeah, and when I was in Los Angeles, I remember now how much I hated it because I have to get up at six or five actually and then you know to do prep and stuff and be ready. I do pre-prep at the night then I get some sleep then I do two hours in the morning. So yeah so I did a little bit of well I was doing prep all day yesterday before the party started and then I got up early this morning um...I think if I'm not mistaken its because

05:18 of the Australian listeners. What time is it right now in Australia? I have no idea. I think it's late or early, or... I don't think this is true. What you're saying now is a ring of bell. No, tell me, I think we chose the time so that there was either Australian listeners could listen live, or by the time the show was uploaded they had it in the morning, something like that. Okay how about this for an idea which I think now that you brought up this bogus point-up, I'm now... Bogus? It's not coming to me! See if I can find my keyboard first. It's near that big giant remote we gave you. Australian time, yes is very good. Australian time right now is... What is it now? 3 30 a.m.? Maybe that's too early. It's sometime... Wait a minute hold on one second Alexa what time is it in Sydney? This is three thirty in the morning

06:13 330 in Canberra and three elsewhere, 230 some other places. Adelaide is three. Maybe that wasn't why we did it then? No I know why we did it now. Oh okay It was the best compromise because when we started the show you were in London! Ohhh yessss And it would be 6pm my time Yes Yeahhh you're right You're right Okay mystery solved Yeah, you were in London and I was here. And then so we ended couldn't that was the best time where you would be or where I could actually manage it? I can manage to get up at seven and you weren't getting too late into the evening right That's right this right So he knew the show still go out. Here's some people were talking after you left people had some comments but maybe like to hear him

07:04 The main thing was actually, and Tina she almost couldn't get over this. She's like John sounds different in person and I had to think about it. It's like well I mean he sounds the same to me. Obviously we've got you boosted with the voice of God to give you balls. Hello! But i think it's because you don't project as much in person. You're soft-spoken. You're not a loud guy Oh, okay. I think it's just soft spot and of course even when you hear your voice on tape for the first time your own voice sounds different so maybe it's just different? I don't know It's different

07:50 Now, you brought along a whole bunch of goodies that you had kept. You know some challenge coins and of course my favorite the I'm A Podcaster Ask Me About My Podcast button. The greatest button ever made! So i should have...I really should have worn it sooner because I walk in there with the bar area and I walk up and Tina's talking to one of the guests And I hear Tina say, yeah Adam invented podcasting. And Michelle goes oh yeah like Al Gore invented the internet? What?! There is your legacy right there in a nutshell

08:28 I invented podcasting just like Al Gore invented the internet. Boom! Yeah, boom no time wasted this is in the sunny villa of Los Gatos yes yes anyway it's been great uh The Grand Duke and his wife would be that she what does that if you're married to a grand duke what are you? The wife of the Grand Duke okay Yes yes that's correct Um, alright. I just want to start with- Well you know he can get her a duchess, Grand Duchess! You know it's a thought, i mean... It'll take awhile. It is the gift that keeps on giving. It's worth considering. I hadn't thought about that one. Hey amidst all of the fun stuff though, I've been getting messages from our

09:19 military sources. Yeah, apparently there's a big buildup of US troops right now in Kuwait and Kuwait is always a staging area when I went to Iraq we had to fly to Kuwait City first and then drive God was like seven or eight hours driving up to you know where the camps midi was in Somalia province and he says it's a big buildup and I'm thinking okay does that mean Iraq? And he says, yeah it could be but that's also where the stage for Afghanistan. But then I get this report and there are a lot of reports like it and I'm starting to get a little worried about the rebellization factor in the Middle East. Moving on, a Syrian surface-to-air missile has been shot down by Israel this Friday That is the first time the Tel Aviv government has used its advanced

10:05 Arrow anti-missile technology. It comes as tensions are ratcheted up between the two neighbors after Israel carried out a string of air strikes on Syrian soil, the Assad regime has deployed air defense systems and fired several missiles targeting Israeli jets in retaliation. Things heating up so I wonder if it's for Syria? I haven't gotten any answers by the way. And i don't think anyone knows, but there's a build up. I don't think they know either. They're probably just being staged it could be from just to completely you know stop the fighting in Mosul we're getting humiliated there yeah by the fact that were killing so many civilians and then now recently blew up a mosque that their trying to deny

10:47 It's just it was the only thing that blowed up. But let's play a couple of these clips and try to catch up on this Mosul situation because RT people, of course are giving us the needle about it. Is this the Mosul versus Aleppo? Yes. Try that ability on these precise or these exact allegations I can only say that by the way isn't it odd to have Mark Toner still as the spokeshole for the State Department? I mean, it's like a dimension A and dimension B in one block. Yeah, I like it. It is very interesting. ...ability on these precise or these exact allegations...I can only say that we stand by what we said before which is that we take every effort of carrying out our own air strikes but also sharing information with Iraqi security forces to obviously avoid civilian casualties. I just don't have any sense whether these are credible numbers or not.

11:42 The State Department saying it has no visibility on the situation with civilians in Mosul is raising questions, considering the fact that the U.S. is involved in operations to retake Mosul from ISIL. Related to that here's another question I asked the State Department. I'm

12:19 You know, I think there's UN organizations on the ground obviously dealing with refugees fleeing the city. I'd have to get back to you on what are the monitoring groups and again it's not that there aren't them or some there just don't have precise details So the State Department spokesman did not appear to be immediately aware of what monitoring organizations say about the plight of civilians in Mosul. Meanwhile, the Air Wars monitoring group raised alarm about hundreds reported killed just within a week since the assault first on East Mosul and then and then West Mosul began we have seen just a

12:54 remarkable change at Mosul, moving from tens of civilians reported killed to hundreds reported killed every week now by coalition airstrikes. We're seeing worse numbers now in Mosul than we did during Aleppo. Three hundred civilians died in just two neighborhoods of Mosul in a 24-hour period as a result of air strikes. We didn't see that level of death in Aleppo, yet we did during the final stages of Aleppo. In fact all through the Aleppo siege we saw significant international media coverage so why is there this difference? Why does international media not want to engage on civilian casualties and Mosul?" Now who are all these these so called expert sources that this report

13:43 claims have this information. Nobody has any information, thank you but nobody wants any information apparently if you play part two of this clip they try to get somebody that's talk about this from all these organizations and they all refuse to talk about any of it we asked a number of journalist organizations to comment on the coverage of the situation in Mosul here are some other responses that we received The organization investigative reporters and editors told us that it declines to participate in this story. Other groups said they had nothing to say on the matter, and referred us to the International Federation of Journalists It told us that the situation in Mosul is difficult for civilians adding that he was sure the human suffering in Mosul was being covered adequately

14:29 Hmm, so nobody's covering it and they work but they weren't covering Aleppo either. They had RT had somebody there yeah And then they did then they took a bunch of reports after the situation ended and then kind of deep got a debriefing on what might have happened and when they say coalition forces It does that mean us? Does it mean yes? It's yours not the Turks it can't be the Turks let it be the Turks not in not in Iraq So, they have...nobody covers this because it's too dangerous. So no reporters are gonna do any of this stuff.

15:05 There's a couple of things I noticed. What RT is bitching about is that it looks as if Aleppo was covered even though it wasn't really covered either, but they dreamed up bullcrap stories about Aleppo and they ran them and went nuts about them because the Russians blamed the Russian for everything. The same thing going on here but nobody doing bull crap story? Well whose fault is that? It's the Russians' fault! I mean, we let's okay. Let's take it from a perspective of propaganda Okay We are we have a point to make so we have you know So he got this situation going on in Aleppo? But we make our point by just pretty much making up stories and getting them everybody that run these stories the Russians Experts in propaganda as were led to believe they can't seem to do the same thing except grouse on RT hmm

15:54 So I just find that they're the best at it. They have more money than we do in propaganda, I can't believe that! And here's another thing that should be noted and i think everyone is starting to do this because I noticed during the campaign you see more and more of this and Gay-Anne does this the best She makes herself part of the story. She says, I asked Toner another question and then they show a shot of her asking a question and then Toner answering it We don't see anyone doing that with the AP we don't see you know Matt going on about how he asked the question You know by the way where is Matt Lee? I think he's on vacation so anyway or Bender Yeah

16:46 So, but I noticed this during the campaign where these different reporters would have a camera on them as they yelled out a question. And so I think we're going to see more and more of that, so the reporters are more part of the story. Which isn't exactly what you're not taught in J-school? Isn't that the antithesis of being a journalist is like... If you're Hunter Thompson, that's what you're supposed to do as reference in something called gonzo journalism where the reporter is part of this story but generally speaking it's bad form. But I think, predicting right now you're gonna see more and more of it because what happens is that you do that and then you get more money.

17:28 Good work there, Bill. I saw you in that report because most of the time you should be doing these things semi-anonymously. You should just be doing an objective reporting based on what you hear and what you piece together. You don't make yourself part of the story but people who do they'll be getting more money because they're making it look at me! Look at me! You're gonna see this, you watch. Anyway, well in addition to that I was going to mention that we now also have We have 300 armor vehicles challenger 2 tanks all UK military deployment To Estonia which took place over this weekend. Yes, it's Estonia as the Poland's got a bunch of people yes, Tony That's not very friendly no It's kind of f-russia

18:23 And you know what, John? I'm worried. I caught this... Let me see if i can find it here Well first of all just to remind you how nuts is right now in the United States of Gitmo Nation government We have one senator accusing the other of working for Vladimir Putin directly A little reminder of that exchange So I repeat again The Senator from Kentucky Is now working for Vladimir Putin The Senator from Kentucky I object and he walks off Yes, a little production. No expense spared here on the no agenda show but there was so now we have these These sessions going on On the hill about Russian influence in global democracies in fact and this starts off with Senator Leahy who I just left him in because he's the way he dogs is so funny and So slow

19:21 But then, wait for the kicker as Lindsey Graham comes in and what he really wants and how he really feels about Russia as it pertains to their influence on global democracy. Now there are five witnesses The typical shills, the people we don't I mean they're from think tanks and all kinds of organizations so. So i didn't have to tell you who they are You know how it works, you bring in people who are going to give you the answers that you want And that's why you ask questions that are set up and pre-approved and written Well then the best ones of course should be first sorry Sorry for stepping on that, but I haven't heard this these clips But I would assume that Lindsey Graham does his normal do you agree with me that no it's better than that Lindsay So its lay you as who was asking some questions And then I edited this down of course because just too much bull crap and pauses but then he's the chairman of the of this particular committee of this Ram

20:17 Yeah, he's the chairman of this one. The Russian influence in global democracies I'm not sure how we yeah it may be part of the committee He's on but they make these committees up as they go along okay? So he doesn't do a question. He actually just state something Let me and to close with this Nato has been missed Listen to him listen to this frog in my throat no no lady is hit something else wrong with them wasn't Let me, um... sort of close with this. NATO's been mentioned here- I had a really big lunch but let me ask you about NATO. So the topic is NATO here as well? Let me, uh... sort of close with this. NATO has been- I can't get over that! What is wrong with him?! Let me, um... sort of close with this. NATO has been mentioned here. I think we'd all agree that

21:11 NATO is important if there's unity but this also has to be within NATO and understand that the United States stands. Does this, if they see the United States being able to be manipulated by Russia does that sound so doubt? Maybe he had a stroke I don't think so. Maybe just a three martini lunch? We can start calling him Mr. Phlegm, but he's not... normally even when he is all phlegmy, he enunciates it better than this. He's bad!

21:57 within NATO and understand that the United States stands. Does this, if they see the United States being able to be manipulated by Russia... Because that's so doubts in NATO. Well, I don't think we believe that the United States is being manipulated by Russia but if we reach a point... You hear that? Did you hear that? Yeah! He's being honest. Yeah, let's not stop and question that lets move on The United States is being manipulated by Russia But if we reach a point that we did I guess we'd be pretty nervous. Do you think this operation of Russia was a one-time operation or do you think we might see this? The guy just said, We're not being manipulated. I'm not quite sure why he thinks there's still an operation Maybe it's referring to the DNCC hack Operation or do you think we might see this in the future? The operation regarding the 2016 election Absolutely Senator Leahy They're they're gonna be emboldened

22:55 by the extent to which they had an effect on whether they affected the outcome of the election, and they had an effect on the course of the election. It's caused a lot of disruption. They're gonna be emboldened by that, they're going to come back even stronger next time and they are going to perfect their techniques and other countries like North Korea Iran China... What? Oh yeah the Russians are taking over the world with RT Hold on a second With RT Let's start with No! North Korea Yeah Gonna hack their elections, they're gonna hack their computer systems They don't even have internet there Do they even have elections And they don't have elections! What am I thinking?

23:35 They haven't got elections, they haven't got computers. They haven't got an internet but they're gonna go hack them and influence the election so that other guy will win Yeah, Kim Jong-un too! They are going to come back even stronger next time. They are going to perfect their techniques And other countries like North Korea Iran China Are gonna get on the bandwagon and do the same Yes sir Senator Leahy I just want you know The French election I believe is in the April runoff would be in May, is that correct? First round April 23rd second round may 7th. I think it's important that the Congress take some kind of action on our bipartisan legislation to punish Russia for interfering and our election before the German uh... the French elections and Germany is in September

24:22 September 23rd. I view an attack on one party in the United States and an attack on all parties by a foreign entity we need kind of an article 5 response here. Oh yeah, we need an article five response What's an article 5 response? That's NATO's article five, an attack on one is an attack on all. He's comparing... Oh he's an idiot this guy! He's comparing the bogus attack that probably didn't- the Russians probably didn't even do because what was the point against a Hillary Clinton campaign and John Podesta who had the password of

24:59 Password. Well, here's the sad thing what happened? What is happening now in dimension B there is there is an entire story that has been built and This is the technical explanation of course you know this may make it into The New York Times But you take a couple layers down And you get Donna Brazil who of course is a part of this dimension and she was on The Daily Show And you think it's nuts for Lindsey Graham to equate this to a NATO-based Article 5, an attack on one is an attack on all. Let's go nuke Russia response? She's taking it one step... I mean just listen. ...was serving as the acting chair after Debbie Russell and Schultz left... Was thrown out. The DNC that is a thankless job let's second time okay the first... A thankless job did you hear this woman

24:22 September 23rd. I view an attack on one party in the United States and an attack on all parties by a foreign entity we need kind of an article 5 response here. Oh yeah, we need an article five response What's an article 5 response? That's NATO's article five, an attack on one is an attack on all. He's comparing... Oh he's an idiot this guy! He's comparing the bogus attack that probably didn't- the Russians probably didn't even do because what was the point against a Hillary Clinton campaign and John Podesta who had the password of

24:59 Password. Well, here's the sad thing what happened? What is happening now in dimension B there is there is an entire story that has been built and This is the technical explanation of course you know this may make it into The New York Times But you take a couple layers down And you get Donna Brazil who of course is a part of this dimension and she was on The Daily Show And you think it's nuts for Lindsey Graham to equate this to a NATO-based Article 5, an attack on one is an attack on all. Let's go nuke Russia response? She's taking it one step... I mean just listen. ...was serving as the acting chair after Debbie Russell and Schultz left... Was thrown out. The DNC that is a thankless job let's second time okay the first... A thankless job did you hear this woman

25:54 You're the chairwoman. It's a thankless job! I wouldn't want her as my chairperson. Now if she thinks that way... Left the DNC, that is a thankless job. Second time okay? The first time i was chair it was like over the Easter break and it was really nice but this time it was over the break from hell because the Russians invaded us What? Hey, wait. It gets better! I just wanted to pause so you could prepare yourself for what's coming next. Hell... because the Russians invaded us Did you know that it was the Russians at that time or did you just know you've been hacked

26:33 I was told initially that we were hacked by hostile foreign power. And then later when I received my brief and I received a really thorough view and picture of what was going on, at one point I was just fearful because think about it...I've gone up against Republicans, I've gone up against Libertarians, Independents but i've never gone up against a hostile military force Were they sitting outside her door? With AK-47s. Hey, Donna Brazil Force and how do you run a campaign when you have somebody not only going into your emails but ripping through all your files harassing your donors harassing your staff every day so first of all were they I don't recall reports of harassment

27:23 I don't recall. No, i think that would have been reported by the liberal media Yeah, they're ripping through your documents harassing your staff harassing your donors Isn't that what you do Don in Brazil? Don't you harass donors for more money isn't that your job? Yes, send three dollars harassing your staff no chip in chip in every day so first of all this is the truth you you're running with but this is But to get the real truth, you gotta come to me. Cause I know the truth Oh! She knows the truth Are you gonna write a book? Hell yeah! Oh yeah! Shes gonna write a book! Wooo! We want the truth

27:59 But the truth is, is that politics is a hard fought game. Yes And when you're in the battle of fighting to make sure that you have inclusion To make sure you have diversity and make sure that you have the kind of not just communication but the kind of conversation with voters You want to make sure those questions Those topics That it's out there Whatever I'm not quite sure what she meant by that last bit. She finally admitted she was a douchebag after lying and lying and lying... Yeah, it's really quite amazing how we all know what she did! She took questions from the CNN town hall which was like a real debate situation and gave them to Hillary! The pass this woman gets is amazing

28:53 They should, she should be blackballed. It's like the Brian Williams passive power you know just everyone gets me lie fine cares fake news fake news I guess it you know i guess finding decent news readers that are that are pleasant looking uh is not that easy I don't know I float around the country I watch all the local news when I go there and I see a lot of people that look like they'd be fine on the network So Donna Brazile, she's going to write a book. I can't wait for that! There is another film out about President Obama and it's kind of like a documentary and this guy Jesse Williams who narrated the film was on CBS this morning. Now what...and this really...this almost...I probably should have put this under alternate universes

29:51 Well, you help me determine it. I think it's an alternate universe story here So in this film tries to describe President Obama and how fantastic he is was as president Another hagiography. But what's interesting is I would argue, and you'll...I'm setting it up this way for a specific reason. I would argue that Trump was elected by people who liked him a lot for his way to communicate his way to message. So the guy that's on is Jesse? Jesse Williams. Yes He's an actor he's in Grey's Anatomy

30:29 And he's just, and he's an activist actor. So yeah, one of those guys allowed loud mouth. Yeah. If you ever wins in the Academy awards is, you know, he'll make the show go long. Um, people who voted for Trump, uh, most of them will say, Oh I liked it. He just communicates the way I like to hear it be the communication style was without a doubt, a big point in this, even this election But then you listen to what Jesse Williams is about to say here, and you can apply it to either dimension. To either universe except here of course it only works with President Obama Let's see if my setup makes sense when you hear the clip. What's the essence of the process? Writing... By the way what's the essence of the process? Charlie Rose! Yeah! What is your sexuality? It's in your DNA. What's the essence of the process? Writing these speeches

31:27 I think it has to be born out of an authentic, not only interest and passion for the material... I'm sorry. This is about President Obama's speech writing capability as if he writes them all himself obviously not. What does he write any of his speeches? I'm sure he's responsible for them. Writing these speeches? I think it has to be born out of an authentic... He doesn't know, he just says that. It has to be this and it has to be that? Interest and passion for the material but information you have to have some wisdom and experience and intellect matters despite popular opinion these days You have to have some intellectual heft

32:10 You have to have some intellectual heft. He tried to use his ways to try and make people understand. Yeah, I think that... And a teaching element? Yes! A teaching element. This is Good Morning America there's what's her name No no it's CBS this morning It's not good morning. That's what i meant CBS this morning and that's uh yeah But please notice that he has a gift He has a gift, it's a teaching element. He was teaching us Yes! A teaching element Yeah and anybody can recite words right but there is a connectivity to being able to really understand you know who and what you're talking about and being able to frame it in a way that is relatable the people can see themselves in the experience and use kind of keywords and vocabulary that relax people disarm people and make them set a table

33:12 Thanks, Obama Yeah, but only the wow. Why don't you just lay it on did you hit boots this stand through this bullcrap? So was that an alternate universe That's a good I think it was the alternate universe speaking to itself in that little group there because that group is all dimension B We're straddling How nice is that one? That's good. Yeah, this is you do this Fletcher oh yeah Fletcher seems to be I have a lot of talent does amazing screaming By the way You know as birthday presents now I just asked Fletcher to do you know a shout out for my friends and send it To him as a ringtone

34:14 It's the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah, yeah Fletcher's got... Fletcher is Fletcher what can I say? All right. Um, oh, I think that's it. Yeah, I think there was all did you know I think it was so I think you're right in your assertion These guys are just blowing smoke up each other's butts as likely to say yeah now Was it I of course being here where we left right after the show Thursday So I haven't seen a lot of the mainstream news because we were just you know honestly goofing off um But what is the reporting been on Angela Merkel's visit and conference with the president? I have some clips. Very good!

34:56 Now, the thing was is that I think it was a very successful. Everyone says well it's kind of a success for Merkel and this what the analysis comes down to. It was kinda a wash for Trump they wouldn't give him credit for the fact that one thing came out of this was Germany coming out and their foreign minister or defense minister one of them coming out saying yeah we're gonna put a lot more money into NATO That's all really Trump was bitching about They weren't getting the money they deserved from the Germans, I mean only the UK, Poland and a few countries are paying their fair share. So the Germans are now coming out and saying but no media outlet is equating this to anything all they're talking about is the handshake. Oh! Now... I miss this what would they do in Illuminati handshake? No I'm gonna give you the rundown then we'll get to the handshake at the end so let's see if we got a Merkel clip that's uh not to look here

35:52 Merkel, Merkel, Merkel. Marine scandal... Merkel! Merkel! Merkel!! Where's Merkel? I don't know where is Angela? Uhh..I have thoughts on Merkel meeting Yeah let's go with thoughts on Merkle Thoughts on Merkel meeting here we go A meeting of the two most influential leaders in the Western world Cold weather had delayed an earlier visit and a frosty atmosphere prevailed as the president and the chancellor poked for photos at the White House To say what?! She says frosty. It was cold, she couldn't come when it was cold but now they had a frosty meeting get it? Oh you know I have yes oh my goodness! I love that we used to do that in J-school A meeting of the two most influential leaders in the western world Cold weather had delayed an earlier visit and a frosty atmosphere prevailed as the president and the chancellor posed for photos at The White House

36:47 Trump appeared to decline an invitation for a handshake. Proceedings then moved behind closed doors, for talks on terrorism, the conflict in Ukraine and defense spending. Both said they wanted to see fair trade and a fair deal on NATO. I am a trader that wants to see good for everybody worldwide but i'm not an isolationist The president underlined how important he thinks NATO is It's of prime importance to us, as we said during our summit meeting in Wales. Germany needs to increase its spending in this area." They spent more money but the emphasis on the mainstream media... This was from France 24 which I thought was a little more at least trying to be a little more objective except for this clip which is the follow-up clip on The Handshake

37:38 France 24's Gallagher Fenwick spoke to us a little earlier from Washington. He described more about this rather strange tete-a-tete for us, including that awkward moment Merkel offered a handshake for the cameras and Trump appeared to ignore her. Now you saw this so I can't wait to hear what you thought about this yeah I watched this thing okay there was Merkel was never offering it. She wasn't like she was left hanging with her hand out there that people always like to get those photos of. Handshake, you're looking the other way hey over here! Wait wait did they have any video that even looked remotely like that? No they had two of them so here's what went on let's go from beginning to end first of all and this was mentioned a little bit now they think oh a new protocol has been established

38:30 Trump greeted her at the door of the White House. That's a new protocol right there! That's what they all said, they said oh now every president is going to have to do that What's wrong with that? That's nice There was nothing wrong with it but then went on and on about it But when he did gave her big hearty handshake everything just short of a California hug And so the handshake was there. Then they sat down in these two chairs and he's all slouched over the way he is to cover up that fact that he's overweight, and ties too long... I don't know you know this guy. You know now that you mention that, the long tie is clearly something he's doing because

39:14 Make his gut not look as big as it is. It's a trick, it's an old guy trick! It's an old guy trick that way he always sucks forward I didn't even think about it you're right That's why the ties too long because has to flow over that mound Exactly So he's got this, so he's there like that and now he sits in there. And the handshake thing started with some two or three reporters yelling, handshake! Handshake! Do you have a clip of that? We need a clip of that. If you listen to the first clip it was in there Oh I didn't hear it right at the beginning? Yeah they were yelling handshake and so they're yelling handshake, handshake You can hear in the background

39:56 He emphasized it on some reports. But I saw him give her a handshake after the news conference, I saw that! Yes, well here's the deal, here's what i'm thinking... They have gotten him sitting in those two chairs, giving these... and the person's a mile away. So they have him kind of hunched over giving a handshake to whoever it is and they've done this shot over and over with everyone who shows up. And I think that they're making a mockery out of it because they show these handshakes and then put them on Twitter. Look at this! He looks like an idiot. Oh hey he didn't want..he held his hands too long long. He has tiny hands, tiny hands, tiny hands." And so they...so I think he just decided to not do those handshakes from the chair it looks dumb! Yeah and you get ridiculed. And you get ridiculed so why should i be doing this stupid handshake? I'm not a dumb...I'm not that stupendous yelling handshake, handshake. She did nothing she didn't make a move she didn't do anything she wasn't like doing it she wasn't making emotion for a handshake they said she was

40:53 Somebody show me a clip of her doing it. I have looked at this over and over again, and she doesn't even twitch." So then they get up and go out, he welcomes her out, and then at the very end of the whole meeting there's your handshake big handshake... And they can get all the pictures that want of that handshake! They want a specific handshake, and now their bitching because they're not getting it. I think in the new protocol should be you know handshakes peck on the cheek slap on the ass boom good to go That would be me. Yeah, well all the presidents would have to do that after that. I actually wanted you had a piece in your clip which i have in a different clip about fake news

41:36 And I just thought it was interesting to hear the German journalists ask a question. Then you hear how Trump, she actually asked the question of Merkel and Trump and he says well let me just jump in here first. I just thought it was interesting the whole exchange that I kind of liked. Sina Dunz from the German press agency. Madam Chancellor given the experience of the GDR you are always saying that you are so confident that walls can fall also. For how dangerous do you think this isolationist policy of the US president is, what with the import terrorists that he plans and also with the fact that he doesn't deal with the EU in a very respectful way? And Mr President America first don't you think this is going to weaken also the European Union and why are so scared

42:25 diversity in the news and in the media that you speak so often of fake news and that things after all, in the end cannot be proven. For example, the fact that you have been wired up by Mr Obama." So what was interesting about her is a cute German woman, blondie, she sits down and she's smiling like, I did it didn't I? Ich hab es geschafft! I asked him about the fake news what he was afraid off She had a real kind of grin on her face. And that's why I like Trump's response. Nice friendly reporter, first of all i don't believe in an isolationist policy but i also believe a policy of trade should be a fair policy

43:15 And the United States has been treated very, very unfairly by many countries over the years. And that's going to stop but I'm not an isolationist. I am a free trader but I'm also a fair trader and our free trade has led to a lot of bad things happening you look at the deficits that we have and you look at all of the accumulation of debt We're very powerful company country were very strong. Nice little flub there huh? Yeah, that was a good one. I thought that was cool. A lot of people made a big fuss out of that. Oh he's running us like a company! Maybe we shouldn't call him chief executive then? We're very powerful country... We are! Look at the structure look at the legal documents were company strong and very strong country will soon be

44:10 at a level that we perhaps have never been before. Our military is going to be strengthened, it's been depleted but I am a traitor... Which is kind of threatening To say that. We're gonna be strong, that means our military. Yeah... There was a- You know? Anyway. Traitor I am a fair traitor. I am the traitor that wants to see good for everybody worldwide But i'm not an isolationist by any stretch of imagination so i don't know what newspaper you are reading but i guess it would be another example as you say fake news Hmmmm....I would say your butt slammed BUTT SLAMMED!

44:48 Definitely butt slam. Got butt slammed now in your report you had one of those what if frosty reception because it was cold But before I want to do a little aside because you brought up something that came up in a, that he just said. Okay? That came up in the ceiling finest French 24 this is this came up at the G20 which is meeting and the clip has bought and bought it. Oh, this game upon Deutsche Vella there's this new woman Helena who does the business reporting. Wait a minute wait a minute Is that the one used to be on CNBC with

45:28 Tall crazy blonde no, no. No okay this Helena's you guys a nice German accent She's absolutely gorgeous especially if you like the dark dark black haired goth look she Has and in this particular report she has these Goth just I'm telling it's goth makeup everything short of black lipstick really and wait we work for Deutsche Welle And she is she's really pretty and she and they put her in these tight fitting dresses, and so then as she does a stand Hold on a second Deutsche Deutsche what's-her-name Helga? Helena oh Helen. I don't know I can remember last name But it's something very Germanic that can be a whole bunch of Helena's let's see okay

46:16 So she stands up and she's wearing these tight-fitting dresses, and she's got kind of a butt. She's cut...she's uh..she's um...kind of like Guilfoyle-esque? Yes! A little bit but she's prettier Oh yeah much prettier sorry Guilfoyle you're outnumbered by the crowds She's uh, anyways they have her do a stand-up and talking to a giant screen. And then she... Hey baby! I've seen this like a number of times. Talking to my giant screen? She's talking to the giant screen so i'm watching DW now one of my routines and they have her standing there with this tight fitting dress and she's got a shapely butt

46:56 And so they all, she's got her feet positioned a certain way and then she does that pivot to the screen. She does the screen pivot? Nice! It's like a screen pivot and it exactly...and all you can see is her butt sticking out. I don't even want to know what she had to say anymore just keep telling me what she looks like. This woman has this terrific butt and so you're saying wow that was a good find on the part of KW. Well i don't know what they just said but it must be true because look at that butt So I get the biggest kick out of this, obviously. So she is now doing a report on the G20 and she's throwing it to the guys. She's throwing it to the giant head and we're going to get a report and you'll see what's going on in the G20 just a bunch of meetings like a drinking club where they can decide what not to talk about

47:44 Well, let's cross over now to our correspondent Javier Arguelles who is reporting for us from Baden-Baden. Now, Javier protectionism has been the elephant in the room we understand and whether or not that word will make its way into the final communique what are you hearing? Well, Helena from what I'm hearing. I would say that it's very unlikely that the word protectionism and the commitment to fight protectionism is going to appear in that final communique of the G20 finance ministers meeting And the reason is very clearly that the US is opposing that fiercely now The u.s Already succeeded today in eliminating all references to climate change in this declaration So it is very likely that they will also pursue and succeed in eliminating protectionism The question is how?

48:28 countries are going to discuss that tomorrow especially if they do not want to talk about the sensitive topic of trade and protectionism. And briefly, Javier we understand China doesn't want the word fair trade in the communique either. That's right if China wants to strike the word fair because the United States is pushing for that exact word it would be fair in the sense better suited to the United States so China is definitely opposing that as you can see the details always make the difference and in the end will probably just see a vague description of what the countries are really looking for. All right Javier Aguiles in Baden-Baden thanks for that

49:04 I think she's quite the find. What was the clip about? Bottom apparently. Alright, I need to go back to... I'm looking for a term when in a news report you do those cool little like tie-ins like oh frosty or frosty reception because it was cold yeah is there name for that yes call it cheap pun cheap on me that would be upon to me okay cheap on One of our producers found the cheapest of all puns on PBS. If it's a true pun? Oh yeah, on PBS and so what you're going to hear in this clip is the tail end of the report of the president with Merkel of Deutschland

49:55 And then you're going to hear the back announce from that is Judy, I believe. And listen to what she says. Merkel's dealings with President Trump may affect her popularity at a critical moment. She seeking a fourth term as chancellor in elections later this year and faces challenges from both the left and right In the day's other news, President Trump defended the White House handling of his claim that President Obama had him wiretapped. His press secretary Sean Spicer had quoted a Fox News analyst who suggested British intelligence handled the wiretapping The British flatly denied it and complained to the White House but at his news conference today the president dismissed the furor Come on! Come on! That was on purpose

50:44 You know... He dismissed the Führer, der Fuhrer. Come on! I'm thinking sometimes because i do these kinds of lines often and some of them they sound like gems they're all that guy's so fun and they're subconscious uh and i think that may have been subconscious because Judy can't really do that well but she didn't write the copy She didn't write what she's reading in the prompter. Well, not necessarily she might write her own copy but when you say he dismissed the Führer and talking specifically here... Handled the wiretapping The British flatly denied it and complained to the White House But at his news conference today the president dismissed the Fuhrer

51:31 It's almost like when he says I'm a fair trader, you could also say I'm a traitor. You know? You can hear all these things! I just thought that was pretty... Yeah that was definitely- That's a- You want to borderline clip of the day for that? I do i'm just gonna take it. I'm claiming it. It's alright because I got true clips of the day coming up. Now since you're on that going on down that road let's at least uh play Let's play the CBS hit piece that was done by Garrett. Major Garrett. The major hasn't become general yet and this is... Major Garrett, what do I have here? A hit piece on wiretap

52:15 That would be it. other things. Both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees have said no surveillance of Trump Tower took place we said nothing but the president also amplified another unverified allegation that Mr Obama used British intelligence to spy on him

52:54 Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano made the accusation Tuesday. President Obama went outside the chain of command, he didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI and he didn't use the Department of Justice He used GCHQ What the heck is GCHQ? That's the initials for the British spying agency. On Fox News on March 14th, Judge Andrew Napolitano... Press Secretary Sean Spicer cited that report at yesterday's White House briefing. The GCHQ issued a rare public rebuke saying the allegation is quote utterly ridiculous and should be ignored

53:33 But the president took no responsibility for the breach of protocol with the UK, one of America's closest allies. I didn't make an opinion on it that was a statement made by a very talented lawyer on Fox and so you shouldn't be talking to me you should be talking to Fox Is he serious? He's gotta stop that That's dumb Hey man but what i said was guy on fox Talented guy though lawyer on Fox and so you shouldn't be talking to me, you should be talking to Fox. Fox anchor Shepard Smith moments after the press conference. Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano's commentary Why doesn't he just go work at CNN already?

54:17 He, you know he's throwing everybody under the bus that he can. Yeah I mean... Hey guys look at me! I'm doing such good work throwing people under the bus! Hey i'm in your dimension! Hire Me! Hire me in Dimension B hire me Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano commentary Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now President United States was surveilled at anytime in anyway full stop You know so... Wait you missed to end last thing he said Oh yeah oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to step on it Nope. Listen to it. Was surveilled at any time in any way full stop. Full stop!

54:55 Hold on. So he, Napolitano I remember the clip the whole clip and he said Sources who I can't name three of them three inside the intelligence community told him this yeah so it's always okay for everyone to use anonymous sources. Sorry? Yeah, I said we have the original clip if you want to play us from the last show Well can do that why don't we do that what's the name of the outfit again GHCQ was in it Yeah But it'd be under Napolitano Nepal, okay here we go. And by the way, he said the exact same thing with his exact same words with the exact it's almost rehearsed where you because this second showing of it was I believe a different show When they played that clip. Yes. Yeah. Yes correct? I think this let me see what this one is here three intelligence sources have informed Fox there we go three intelligence sources having Listen to what he says haven't formed Fox isn't saying me He says Fox and then we have

55:59 Fox saying we can't confirm it. Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command, he didn't use the Okay and Shep says States was surveilled at any time in He says Fox News cannot, so who's lying here? Fox News knows of no evidence. I definitely hear something else here on Fox News... Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News. Someone has got to get their story straight people! Well the other one if you listen to Shepard Smith and then another example this later in the show that this sort of Weasel wording your way out. Hmm having somebody tell you this happened doesn't mean you have evidence hold on a second I want to play CNN's Yes, Shep says Fox News has no evidence ship ship ship Yes, that's what he says yeah there's no evidence okay? I You can say sources have said but we have no evidence ice understand what you're saying

57:03 Yeah, we're gonna see more of that. Weasel words in other words you really reporting nothing to turd. Turds is a turd here CNN I forget which commentator had the line but you'll hear it. What was your reaction when you see the British government calling something that White House says, said from the White House briefing room ridiculous and should be ignored? Well Kate it was ridiculous GCHQ is the National Security Agency of Britain It operates under very very strict guidelines strict laws And for GCHQ to make a press statement like this

57:40 I've never heard of it. It's unprecedented, they are furious. The accusation that Sean Spicer made is Britain got involved in our politics which for the British is a red line and and I'd like to add that if this White House continues to play with national security like this for political partisan purposes And frankly, bat around lies that everybody knows is a lie. This is going to hurt our security and Sean Spicer... Oh it's not? ...is gonna get people killed because GCHQ... Killed?! Stop talking over it! Yes, that's what he said. I want to hear that old sentence again. It's gonna get people killed you see. ...but he knows this is a lie this is gonna hurt our security and Sean Spicer uh is gonna get people killed because GCHQ will stop cooperating eventually

58:28 Sunspot, sweaty Sean the murderer. Can I get people- They're not gonna stop coo- Wait a minute who says they're cooperating? If they're cooperating already doesn't it make sense that this could possibly happen This is not, this is one of the workarounds that security people talk about this all the time. And we everybody knows this is going on that you can't spy the NSA or NSA essentially a signals company bringing all this, all this, all the stuff in there. SIGINT. And the CIA can't spy on Americans and this SIGINT guys get mostly signals, but they do they can get all this data and they can share it

59:14 And then the other guys, GCHQ can get all the data that they want on Americans and then they can share it. Yeah so it's the Five Eyes Agreement I can spy on the British as one of them...on one side Okay I can spy on the British what do you have on this guy? Because we can't legally spy on him What do you have? This is a known fact that goes on It's easiest way to do it! They do under the Five Eyes agreement with Australia and New Zealand and Canada And it's legal. Yes, it's totally legal. Yeah yes our CIA cannot spy on us but British MIA 6 can and they can get the information to whoever needs it yeah so the whole thing is a joke this is all of this is denial about you know and all of it is show It's just all show well but I like them being haughty oh

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1:04:34 Science! The science is in! Karma changes! Karma changes! It's gonna have to be a different man. When the ocean rises just this much, this whole area will be underwater That's what you gotta get your heads around You've got karma There ya go I don't know who Bill Nye's irking, but he's getting a lot of negative publicity. He's doing ads now! Now he's doing endorsements which is a real...I should have clipped that out. I apologize. I'll get it for Thursday. A couple people sent me a link that he's doing endorsements for some company and of course that's a true sign of a problem because he's clearly not making money from the climate change message

1:05:34 So he has to go make money somewhere else. How's he going to make money from the climate change message? He needs to do a paper, or get some funding. Becoming just a stooge doesn't get you... your check doesn't show up Maybe because it's not a climate scientist Maybe because he's a mechanical engineer? I think he is an electrical engineer. I don't know if it was mechanical or electrical. One of the two. He's a dick! There are a lot of engineers in the world that believe that they know one little segment of engineering, they know everything about everything. No offense to you engineers but you know what i'm talking about. Exactly ie triple E boys we're looking at you

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1:06:53 But throw in whatever your favorite clip is. I like Sharpton Resist, but a lot of people have been asking for it so play something different. A deep douching is also humbly requested and give him that right now. He wants to resist or not? He doesn't want to resist he wants something different. He just wants deeply wants to resist but realizes we're playing too much So he wants and he doesn't want it. It's one of those things... Well I don't have anything then! Well play him to resist then. No, I'll play this for him. The following podcast will make you realize that Al Sharpton is incomprehensible. But resist we must. We must and we will much about that

1:07:37 Be committed. Was the result of... anal leakage. Listener discretion is advised. You've been D-douche'd! That's what you get when you play something on the fly This is old news, but he continues on his note. You gave him a deducing yesterday? I did. This is old news but one thing that has been on my mind is about Comey saying they were reopening the Clinton email investigation just prior to the election What if the reason he did this was because he actually knows what was in the 30,000 emails from some other method? Maybe something from The Vault 7 bag of tricks or similar. And he was trying to determine if what was in Clinton's email was worth revealing how the FBI got the information. He needed a week to weight the cost versus benefits and ultimately determined the cost was too great. Just a wild thought. Yeah it's pretty wild.

1:08:33 Nobody knows. Comey is... Comey right now, and he's in Austin today if you can believe that He has time to go do open some- He's rummaging through your place as we speak He's not here man come on! We know he's not here let's go in we'll find it we'll find some evidence Anyway, he says keep up the good work trying to hit people in the mouth. I just have bad aim so we did get that and yesterday's Partay over at Duke's house we did get one new listener yes And a listener when you listen on an Android no less

1:09:13 Yes, I thought that was fantastic. You know what? Our work is done John. We were good for the day we have yet another one a day so that was our rather short list of executive producers and one executive associate producer appreciate that highly Of course thank you That's why he put you at the front there just like Hollywood with real credits these things are always good to go And we'll be thanking more people, $50 or above in our second donation segment. And of course another show coming up on Thursday Please remember us at devorak.org slash N-A. And just like we did! Yup, were not too big to go out... Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens Shut Up Ray! Quiet! Shut Up! Um Robert Reich

1:10:14 What's his deal, Robert Reich? Well, Robert Reich is the old labor secretary. Very small diminutive person. He was a petite male. Oh he was a small man like Richard Marx I don't know how tall Richard Marx is but I think Reich is about four... nine Does he have a cute butt? I wouldn't know and I wouldn't want to know. He uh was the Labor Secretary under Clinton. He's an old school progressive Funny public speakers, got some good jokes. He does good material he's over at Cal or here in Berkeley Teaching something he doesn't seem to have published office hours so you can't go over there seems I don't know what Okay well, I guess he does get asked from time the time to comment on things is that he's a oh? He was all he was the best we had this clip This was him with sometime ago would during the before the election and

1:11:13 And he was with Chris Hedges and they were debating each other on somebody else's show, Democracy Now or something like that. And Chris Hedges had a real good grasp of reality And Reich did not. It was so apparent when the two of them went off against each other that Reich is like an old woman, total dimension B completely nuts, scared to death that we're all going to die because of climate change and Trump So he's loony Well I think it has gotten really bad with him We know that as we've witnessed many times on this program throughout our decade of broadcast experience

1:11:52 We know that the truth always wants to come out and what someone is really thinking will slip out. And sometimes it's so blatant, you just have to stop and go wow... You're harboring in this case I think very bad thoughts! I'm a tad worried perhaps for him. Hmmmm.... This is regarding the complete freakout of The Budget. Obviously we'll have more clips talk about As one of the campaign promises was we're going to remove spending that is not useful I want to say wasteful but not useful to the American people and you know, it's a National Endowment for the Arts. It's PBS its NPR will talk about those Specifically but Robert Wright really was looking at these cuts from a meta level and how unprecedented they are And again, the truth always wants to come out now as you know The new budget expands the military

1:12:51 by 10 percent, $54 billion. Now because the military is such a large part of the budget that 10% expansion, that 54 billion dollars is huge and requires a lot cuts elsewhere in the budget to accommodate that 54 billion dollars He's also expanding homeland security including his wall That is also going to cost billions of dollars and that means cuts elsewhere in the budgets And where are the cuts coming? He is imposing unprecedented, unprecedented cunts. Cuts in issues that people... Did you hear it? Yeah. I could not hear it! What's he thinking?! Unprecedented cunts. Seriously, thats what hes thinking! Hes thinking the whole time these guys will see you next Tuesday and it slips out! Huh

1:13:46 I don't hear that support a borderline clip of the day. I thought we would think so Unprecedented cunts yeah sure cuz that that's what he's thinking well it had to be on his mind you can't that word just doesn't show up out of the blue as an As an alternative to the word cuts well and now check this out, but I don't know if its uh if its Tourette's And I have some standing in this. It doesn't sound like it, maybe there's just new protocol that i'm unaware of speaking of the new protocol Of what you can say on CNN? This is Fareed Zakaria The anti-constitutionalist douchebag Oh yeah and he is He's the New World Order poster child on CNN Yes, he's totally a one world government guy Yeah no nations No borders and he's on with uh...the overnight legend Don Lemon

1:14:44 And if you want I can play the whole clip, but just listen to what he says in the beginning. It's okay now to say bullshit five times on CNN? I guess so. Well, it's a cable station so technically... Technically it is okay but we don't even like to say that on our show. Thank you sir We do not like to say that and we use Bullshit once in awhile, but typically Bull crap yeah which works

1:15:38 Now, somebody on the word thing which we'll maybe do a little bit of today. Somebody brought one up that I said...oh, no, I forgot all about this one," which was the substitute for horse shit, which I think my dad even used to say is horse feathers. Horsefeathers? Now, you might as well talk about this right now because we're here at The Good Grand Duke's home and the wife of The Grand Duke, as you say She is a member of Junior League, which is one of the oldest women's charitable organizations. Yes she looks... yeah I like her and Ben but she does seem like a junior league girl woman yes and so they had a big rummage sale

1:16:28 because there, which really was only for Saturday but we went Friday because they're you know she's on the inside so we had the first evening first pick first dibs on all those stuff. But yeah just like any old elitist! But wait wait wait... The catch is you have to pay double the price Oh again I like that a decadent elitist Yes, we have to go early. Daphne! Daphne, we gotta get to the rummage sale. What are you doing? Okay let's go We have to pay twice as much but we get in early Oh fiddle sticks Who gives a hoot

1:17:10 Anyway, at the rummage sale you know there's typical stuff you can pick up but I was walking through the book section and jumping out at me Was book by Webbe Garrison Why You Say It? The fascinating stories behind over 600 everyday words and phrases. In alphabetical order So we decided on the fly during the party that we would use this book to see if we can find stuff that's not in the book. Now horse feathers is not in the book? Horse feathers is a big one because I remember horse feathers and it was, it was very good all-purpose word for bull crap. Horse feathers! Horse feathers! I have horses mouth

1:17:53 Horsepower, horseplay, horse around. No I do not have horse feathers. Yeah you know i think this book's probably not going to carry half the stuff that we've been getting well That's okay now you want a little bit of this yeah but don't have the jingle? We do have the jingle Oh, okay. What is it? Well since I brought up idioms which is... Idioms. Idioms we're talking about here's what came in. Phrases bring back the old phrases? I have no-I don't have a title on my phone right now. No agenda assassinates me yeah Idioms? Is it idioms? No agenda American idiot. It's your boys! Clinton, Boyd and Pierce. It's your boys man! Come on John it's your boys here we go. No agenda assassinates media. American idiots. That is Mike Malarno. Mike our boy Mike. Philly

1:18:56 Yeah, yeah. I love that! It's your boys Green Day! It's the boys... You know you love them Those kids they might get somewhere They might make a buck or two Alright Now we had an idiomatic expression somebody came up with I got my list here and i don't have it- I can open up We've got a million of these And by the way, and by the way The- We gotta talk about this Let me talk about this The instructions were very clear John said Email Me, John with words in the subject. At no point did that mean copy Adam on it! Just saying, I didn't open them! I just put them in a folder and like this is your beat this is your deal you gotta manage it We got Hyphalutin Yes Is that in the book? I don't think so Oh sure Hyphalutin's in the book... Is that uh... HI something? Hmm...Hyphalutin No

1:19:56 Now this guy is it. This is G Jeannie she says don't be so high hat which equals do not be so highfalutin Which is the idiom that we wanted said? This is another one that does I'm gonna try to tell people not to do these send her away with a flea in her ear Flea in her ear yes, so you didn't mean yell at her So she goes away with your words are ringing in her ear now She doesn't tell me where she's from and then people got to tell me where you're from Like, here's Sir Dave Pugh one of our knights says don't let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass. I'm sure that's not in here! I am sure it's not in there. No. And here is another one from Joseph Pomfrey.

1:20:50 A lick log? A phrase made to convey the difficulty of a situation or choice. Hmm, lick log... Yeah I'm up against the lick log! I don't know what that means it may be-I don't know Now I have lick into shape He also mentions my grandfather would not limit himself to the seven major curse words he would count in horse feathers as a good enough explanation to convey anger or deep disappointment Another person writes in my grandpa had some colorful station, Pennsylvania Dutch So we got what the Sam Hill which we have already added Did this one I forgot about Jiminy cricket Jiminy crickets. Yeah now this one does that just come from a

1:21:32 from Disney? Yeah, but I think it meant it was a Jesus Christ, a Kripes kind of substitute. People didn't...it was using the Lord's name in vain and was taken seriously and so they'd say Jiminy Crickets instead. And this one which is...I never heard of but it sounds great! I'm going to the Shinnehanness Shinhannes? Yeah, S-H-I-N-A-H-U-N-I-S. I thought the last one... He says to me, let's see who this is. Oh, this is Sir Munchnuts. Munchnuts says, uh, I thought the last one, Shinhannes meant my death. My aunt thought it was the outhouse and I think it is the outhouse. Where you going? Going into the shinahannes! And you go and take a crap in the outhouse

1:22:28 Anyway, and then we have a long list from Johnny. And I'm gonna malu you which is...I never heard the big galoot stupid person wind your neck in for calm down or don't get your panties in a bunch? I never heard any of these. This one I have heard when I was kid. You look like the wild man of Borneo! And this means you just didn't comb your hair or something because apparently the wild man of Borneo was a big deal in the 40s. Catch yourself on for Wise Up, give us a wee juke at that. That means look at.

1:23:12 You ones are a bunch of eejits, which is idiot. I dead on me let's go for a weedander Which is a walk it's a brass monkey out there cold. I I fell near on me hoop bum Okay now this one. I was baffled by completely This is uh I think this is Leo Bravo to sent this Bump my rock have you ever heard this no he claims? It's a It's a phrase from the 1980s high school in Downey, California. Maybe it was just something that was local and never caught on anywhere. Could be. Hang ten... who is calling? Then much of these are just normal that you hear all the time still which I don't want people sending those in. I'm going to give you five more because we can do these all day. I know he could but luckily I only have about five more to do as I printed this out hard copy

1:24:16 uh, deader than Kelsey's nuts. Kelsey Grammer's nuts? Because I don't know what that means! After all those marriages they probably are pretty dead compared to Camilla. Better than a poor man's eye you can plant potatoes in those ears and then this one which we're going to end with which is the one i don't want to get because again it is a this from um... I can't remember who this is maybe Curtis Because this is not anything that is old and out of play that we want to reintroduce. The idea of this is to reintroduce cool sounding phrases, and children should be seen and not heard is not one of them! Okay stop good now We have a reason for doing the segment Thank you. We only want to hear cool phrases that should be repurposed Yes That's the way to go

1:25:19 Otherwise, we just have a million phrases here that are kind of interesting. Now if you want to send some in that are really weird and interesting like the Shina House house or whatever it is I probably won't bring it up on the show but I'd be kind of interested in hearing those But children should be seen and not heard is not even in this right dimension No all right John at Dvorak org Words in the subject line, please. That's right! It's our American idioms here on the Noah-Jepson- Let's talk about these budget cuts everybody freaking out I heard that stuff about this at the party last night too

1:26:04 You know, I've heard...I don't have any clips on this but i've heard people freaking out on the one hand and then other people usually political commentators from the right dimension A will say yes saying this is the greatest ever. Well it's really in the nuance and but also in the details we've mentioned for a long time that the actual amount of government funding for NPR and for PBS is very, it's a very small amount. But it is money? Oh, it's definitely money but as its one and the same goes from you know Meals on Wheels there was a lot of different programs Planned Parenthood defunding Planned Parenthood would not remove all of their money

1:26:50 you know, through the Medicare reimbursement. It would remove a what I would call a handout Yes! Yeah in the...I mean they're one point I think four billion dollar organization this has a lot of people very upset and of course that's all that the media looks to do is we just need something to freak out over it's fabulous and with media i will now also include print media uh New York Daily News very, very upset about the cuts.

1:27:39 from the Homeland Security Grant program. He says that program is the backbone of the Department's Counterterrorism Unit. Joining me now, CNN correspondent Jason Carroll. Jason what's going on here? Well you know look, the mayor really blasting this budget proposal if you want to see how the city is reacting I want to put something up for your viewers to take a look at it It's the cover of The Daily News and what it shows there you see right there it shows One World Trade Center as a target. It's a pretty provocative cover, but it really falls in step with how the mayor and the police commissioner feel about this budget proposal as it goes forward they say would make the city left safe and that would cripple efforts to defend it from terrorists Police Commissioner James O'Neill says Trumps budget would translate into cutting 110 million that the NYPD receives annually as part of the Homeland Security grant program

1:28:25 That means they say the city would not be able to pay for counterterrorism tools put into place following 9-11, such as the network of security cameras that monitor potential soft targets like Times Square. Radiological detectors placed throughout the city active shooter training for officers and intelligence analysis which is key to preventing another terrorist attack. So all you need now is just some kind of little event and then we could pin it on the Trump administration, of course. Oh yeah! That's why were dying. Well they probably do... I'm just guessing they probably based on local numbers i do have They'd probably do a hundred million dollars in traffic fines and parking meter violations a year

1:29:13 A minimum. And I would assume, and they also not have a tax to come into the city and it costs like 50 bucks to go through the bridge or something like that? Yeah we know it's 24. 24 bucks to go into the city. It's kind of crazy All they have to do is just double it You had to pay, I don't know what they get because it can't get worse than San Francisco. Typical San Francisco parking ticket and compare this to your local municipalities but a typical parking meter violation in San Francisco is $50. Now most people's most cities municipalities is five ten maybe but there's 50 and that's the beginning everything else is like 200 plus

1:30:00 And that's it, but pick up that tab. I don't think is undoable and then New Yorkers in screw them right? But when you see the New York Daily News saying because of the administration's budget, well, the New York Daily News is the one who did all those crazy covers they did a whole newsletter filled with these covers have trumped the clown Trump to bonehead. Yeah, but now they have like a target, you know, a scope target on One World Trade Center yeah That's pleasant. Yeah, that was very nice Well it was interesting to listen to Don Lemon I can't help myself Now Don did something i've not yet seen and im very happy that its taking place He had a blackta box You know we have the secta box The octabox When you have more people on he had seven black commentators And himself Seven blacks? Black all blacks It was a blacktabox

1:30:58 I've never seen it on CNN. Trump's black guy. I just can't say it any other way, uh yeah that's Trump's black guy and then on the other hand you've got Bakari, you've got Angela Rye, Ray or Angela Rye everyone who just hates Trump and of course Don Lemon and this is about the budget cuts and well you can understand we're going to die. We can see where this is going if you walk down the street he gets... He starts off with a

1:31:40 This was the intro clip of Trump to get into the topic. Right now you walk down the street, and you get shot! What do you have to lose? Well that did happen didn't it... So um what do we have to lose? What African Americans have to lose with President's proposed budget? By the way none of these people live in any neighborhood remotely as dangerous as what was being talked about there. Of course not. Yeah Don Lemon he doesn't need to be worried about being shot He's got a door man What do we have to lose? What African Americans have to lose with the President's proposed budget slash funding. Let's see, for federal agencies that assist the poor in urban areas including many African Americans Department of Housing and Urban Development down 13.2%, Department of Education down 13.5% Department of Health and Human Services down 16.2%.

1:32:28 So, it seems like some African Americans are losing a lot. Am I wrong, Ferris? Well yes Don, you think you are wrong because if you look at the 13.5% cut that you mentioned for the Department of Education what we do know in a time that a lot of cuts happen across the board across the federal government because the president said and campaigned that he was going to do that What we did not see were any cuts to HBCU The former- HBCU took me five minutes to remember is the historically black colleges Right, he's all for the black colleges and help them support them. Yeah. See you they had $492 million to HBCUs were not cut what we did not see were cuts to Pell when you see over 90% of people are kicked out of their houses I guess they're gonna go live in an historically black college university but as when you look at this president budget he did not make one cut to HBCU funding he that made one cut to Pell funding actually

1:33:24 So a lot of people, HBCUs is important. But there are a lot of people who are sitting here watching tonight going, HBCUs? I gotta eat! I've got to live somewhere! Great yes i would love to send my kid to college any college and hopefully maybe... What does eating have to do with the federal budget?! This is what is so crazy. Lemon is saying that because of the racist policies I mean he's not saying that specifically, we'll listen a little bit longer. The policies are racist because they're making black people starve but

1:34:03 Nice that you kept the HBCUs going. Well, maybe starving people can eat there." I don't know what he's talking about but what he is saying is the president hates black people and it's gonna make him starve That's all I can hear Maybe it's because I'm not straddling today But they want to send them to an HBCU. Why are you rambling on about HBCUs when we're talking about urban development, about other education, and health and human services? There are more important issues than HBCUs. Don I would caution you by saying that all those 300 thousand students who attend HBCUs... more important issues. I would say that... Don't put words in my mouth, did you hear what i said? HBCUs are important and when you put up a graphic that shows all these cuts... Paris look, my entire family went to HBCUs don't give me the lesson I know with HBCU's look at me! I know what they are and I'm a product of an HBCU family but there are more important things than HBCUs and you keep them

1:35:01 You keep pointing to one of them when I've gone down a list of things that are really important and when i'm telling you, I would rather eat Than or some people it's more the priority for them is to eat rather than where they're going to go to college He could just no one can win with this guy. He's gone off the deep end Yeah, he better watch out because chef smith is gonna come in take his spot ship smith now There was a lot there was more uh Like super freak out about what was going on. We can listen to Pelosi, but I think the funniest one was The View

1:35:37 You know, there are in this case I think two women on the panel who are clearly conservatives. And you know this is really a dimension A, dimension B where B and A are not even listening to each other yet they're yelling over each other. Very similar to the kind of debate you hear on college campuses in the 60's and 70's between Palestinians and Israelis It was just like, wow these guys don't are paying zero attention to each other. Now that's very...that's a very interesting analogy or parallel you draw there of course I didn't know that and so what you're saying is in the 60s and 70s there were big debates about Israel and Palestine? Yeah! And they were usually in the street with a big crowd around With fighting with violence? No just yelling, yelling both sides So what we can tell now is 40 years later nothing has changed

1:36:30 So this does not bode well for these dimensions. So this is about PBS and the... And I want to stop you one more time, I mentioned this in a newsletter or I mentioned it in a tweet but during this debate because of funding of the endowment for arts and all that somebody pointed out that Hamilton, because Hamilton's like you know, on Broadway. Hamilton wouldn't be even on Broadway if it wasn't for the endowment for the arts which helped fund it or something I don't know anything about this I don't know it may or may not be true but my comment was well if that's even remotely true why did the cast of Hamilton berate in public Mike Pence when he went to see the damn play and then they yelled at him and screamed at him and call them a douchebag

1:37:25 And they expect funding? I mean, come on. You can't do that! That's a very good point and... Do we get part of the massive profits? Does that go back into...? No. What? Well while we're at it, do we get part of the massive global, I mean global down to licensing huge profits of Sesame Street? Sesame Street is a non-profit they don't even pay taxes over their huge What's funny about Sesame Street, it keeps coming up in the conversation but Sesame Street has long since become profit and for the last three years they've been only on HBO. All they have on NPR or PBS is old reruns. Well they are a 5013C corporation! They pay no taxes

1:38:19 Well, that's fine. But they shouldn't be getting any government money? I don't think they were getting any more government money other than if they're still being broadcast on PBS but let's just look at the two fundamental pieces NPR which i believe it's four percent of NPRs budget comes from the government You do not have to worry about NPR. Yarrow Mone, I told you on the show after I met him in New York he has a... He's doing this huge endowment it's like multi-billion dollar and that's gonna fund them for the next 20 years. Yeah yeah they got it made! And once Lee, I mean sorry Yarrow, once he has that done he's gonna leave

1:39:09 It's interesting because he was posting on the facebag, record numbers NPR! Record downloads NPR Pocket. Record number of website visits. Yeah it was the election... Okay No mention of why everyone was tuning in So I predict that he is going to leave very soon The minute he has that endowment in, he's out Because there are a bunch of douchebags who work there You know its not gonna be fun And all the stations have their own agendas and they own their own stuff, and they don't have to listen. I mean it's gotta be a mess. But the money is 4%. For PBS its even less! And PBS... They do little underwriting? No, they run full on commercials. PBS runs commercials just regular commercials. Yeah just watch the beginning of the news hour but beside that in between we're gonna take a break and commercial plays

1:40:05 You know, the whole point of government funded or in our case listener supported and we take it one step further. If you're not a listener you're producer and your responsibility to help us if not financially there's many other ways because that is the future media thats how its going to work you can't do with your sitting on your high horse anyways is even less. Oh! That goes on the list High Horse yes wait let me see if thats in That's gotta be in the book. It better be, otherwise I'd throw that book out! Uh-oh... Let's see high high HIGH HORSE 32 let's go okay This is the old school uh Alexa Okay 32 High Horse When a friend's arrogance gets on your nerves you may react with GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE Long ago a person's rank was fairly clearly indicated by the steed he or she rode Donkeys were used by peasants and serfs And run of the mill horses transported shopkeepers

1:41:03 Petty gentry, big stallions bred and trained as charges for use in tournaments. And wore and were reserved for the rich and famous." So there you go! It was literally... Surprise surprise? If you were hoity-toity, ya had a high horse Back to the view, two of the women are conservative. They're trying to make a point that it's very small amount of money that is not going to go to multiple programs no just talking about PBS and PR but about others and you can hear 2 dimensions just clashing. not

1:42:08 I thought this one had gone away. Millionaires and billionaires aren't paying their fair share! I thought that was gone but it's just back. I don't think it ever disappeared completely, it was always bubbling yeah. The way...I don't know why no one ever brings up a wealth tax on these shows well the programs Meals on Wheels by the way aren't paying their fair share

1:42:59 AMT to evade tax. This is great isn't it? 3.3% she cannot get into her head that this three point three percent when it goes away, okay maybe your grandmother will get three point three percent less goop or whatever sludge. No the number doesn't mean anything to them I'm reminded... Let me just finish up I want to hear your story 30 seconds later

1:43:47 It is not a talking point. When you look at Meals on Wheels that helps out seniors, helped people like my grandmother bottom line is talk to the people that 3.3% is going to affect. No no all I'm saying is what it affects is significant. I agree with you that the program is significant what I am saying is 3.3 percent of its funding comes from government so even if he cuts it your gonna have private citizens as they often do come in corporations and we're gonna value this government. America. And I would suggest that certainly Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg be very careful when they talk about millionaires and billionaires not paying their fair share, I'm pretty sure Whoopi Goldberg for sure and probably Joy Behar are millionaires

1:44:34 multi-millionaires to an extreme, especially Whoopi with all the royalty she gets. She still gets residuals from old Star Trek stuff I would think that she's a millionaire and maybe they should be ponying up You gotta be careful how you talk about these things Well, they don't want to pony up. They want the government to pony up that's the point yeah yes and by raising taxes mill Mills mills on wills Mills on wills what was your story?

1:45:11 I'm reminded of this clip. I've been wanting to put in the newsletter and people should go out and look for it, it's this joker with his girlfriend and some people think is rigged but I don't think she's that good of an actress. It says YouTube thing this guy keeps doing with her about he asked a question about pizza you get up you get a 12-inch pizza and he asked her would you want it sliced into twelve pieces or eight pieces? And she seriously says, eight because I can't eat 12 pieces. And he does the same thing you just did. He laughs at her and she says what are you laughing at? And it says well, you know as a pizza certain is a pizza. It's one pizza cut up with twelve pieces or eight pizzas. She says yeah, yeah, I want eight pieces. I can't eat all pieces that what did you get through your head that I can't eat twelve pieces is too much

1:46:08 And she's dead, and I believe she is dead serious. People can watch this on their own and tell me what they think because I don't think she is that good of actress. She was just a dummy. It was the same kind of dummy thing we had in that clip where it doesn't seem to understand 3.3% isn't hardly much. No, no...I think its completely unrelated. I understand why you would say that but it doesnt matter what amount it was. Doesn't matter. It's just, Trump... There is that element and then the White House I also want to ask this question because I didn't look it up did you look it up? I don't think so. I'm gonna look it up for the next show are we talking about cuts

1:46:54 Or are we talking about cuts? Are we talking about cuts in increases like the normal, oh they're gonna cut 10% and they're not cutting 10%. They got a budget of 30. They're going to make it 33 and they're gonna cut 10 percent of the extra ten or the extra three I guess. Uh...I don't know. Well you know uh- I can't tell because they're not being explanatory at all. They just bitching. No let's just listen to Nancy Pelosi she would know She had something to say about it. Speaker Ryan, he has in his budget over and over again that we would take the guarantee away from Medicare without a guarantee. Medicare is a guarantee without a guarantee you're reverting back to how it was for seniors. Now right now as far as I know she's mentioned nothing that is in writing

1:48:04 As far as I know. She's only saying, well this is what they want but it is nothing about what is in writing today. Before we had Medicare so this is all about a philosophical distrust of the role of the federal government in any way and meeting the needs of the American people Should there be a debate? Should we subject all spending to the harshest scrutiny? We certainly should. And those of us who have advocated for some of it are the harshest critics, to make sure that those investments accomplish what they set out to do So...we don't have any argument about saying okay are we getting our money's worth for what we need to do for the American people But that is not what this is about This is systemic

1:48:51 deconstruction of the federal government and the role. So it's very hard to see... I'm wondering why she uses the term deconstruction where that may mean something to you and I, into the press but if you want to send a message to the American people you would say no he's wrecking it ruining in it be pulling out the rug out from underneath? That's because she got that from Bannon We had a clip some time ago of Bannon talking about it. I don't know if we still have the clip, but... Maybe and I think it's really... But Bannon said they want to deconstruct and he had his very specific term they want to deconstruct the federal bureaucracy of lawmaking or something so you wants to stop these agencies from writing all these laws that Congress is supposed to write because but Congress has abdicated

1:49:44 The responsibility to all these agencies, the EPA and all their rules or laws. I've always felt this way when I was working for the air pollution district they had the ability to write these regulations and laws. They're called regulations but there are laws and you get fined if you don't follow these laws and even have a kangaroo court where you go into the court You have to stand when the guy comes in, the kangaroo judge and you have to sit. And then they slam the gavel and tell you $100,000 for this thing you did wrong. That's what Bannon is talking about. He used the word deconstruct. She hung up on this. Will you please use his proper name though?

1:50:25 Bannon? No, Banion. He's banned. Let's continue. I'm sorry? I'll go either way and kind of buy Banyon. Nah, I'm all in on Banyon. Out on infrastructure perhaps this is paving the way for what i fear which is that he's going to have a bill that will be a tax bill for the rich disguised as infrastructure now this is something that I am an agreement with although we haven't seen it But I'm also worried about this based on the president's words and the explanation of the president's words as it comes to infrastructure.

1:51:11 charge fees so the taxpayers paying twice, subsidizing it and then paying for use of it. Now has she by any chance being a lawmaker from California? Has she by any chance been a part of any of these types of schemes in California? I have no idea. It's possible. You do pay tolls for stuff, is that because... It's only on bridges. Right? Are those government funded 100% or is that a public-private partnership? They've always been funded by the government. I don't know of any public private partnership bridge. So you paid taxes

1:51:48 We paid taxes to have the thing built and we were promised that there wouldn't be tolls, the taxes and the whole thing once it was built would be self-sustaining somehow. Does Nancy Pelosi not represent California? No she represents San Francisco Ah where the bridges are Yeah Okay With the tolls Tolls yeah Why doesn't she fight about that then first because you got screwed Well we got lied too by the government I got the old ads when they were building Golden Gate Bridge, you can find it in old newspapers. This is gonna be great once it's built, it's gonna be just some... I guess local taxes will pick up the charge for painting it and which is really the main maintenance problem with these bridges that have to constantly painted because of the seawater being corrosive and now they had to do it. All right so what the conclusion

1:52:47 Whether it's government or not, I mean whether it's private involved or not there is a cost. There's a fee involved to cross the bridge. All right one of the most along these lines about these cuts one of the most hated men in mainstream media is Mulvaney in the Trump administration who his...I guess the Office of Management and Budget has a representative in the White House? Is that how that works? Or is this...? I am NOT aware of how this works Hmm. Well, it says that White House director of OMB or the Office of Management and Budget who as far as I know have not been giving high marks for anything that's come out of the administration any approach but Mulvaney i think is just he's a Trump guy he's got to be just a pure Trump guy

1:53:33 People hate him too much for him to be anything else. Oh yeah, he's got something to do with Trump So he came out and he did...he came into the briefing and it was very specific about two pieces that are going to be not funded, defunded however you want to call it in the budget and the first is climate change research. Regarding the question as to climate change I think the president was fairly straightforward we're not spending money on that anymore We consider that to be a waste of your money to go out and do that so that is a specific tie to his campaign Alright slow clap Nice. And the other piece? I think the message the president sent right now is that we want to defund those and there's completely defensible reasons for doing that it's a simple message by the way, um i put myself in the shoes of that steel worker in Ohio The coal miner- the coal mining family in West Virginia The mother of two in Detroit and im saying okay I have to go ask these folks for money and I have to tell them where Im going to spend it

1:54:36 Can I really go to those folks, look them in the eye and say, Look. I want to take money from you and give it to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? That is a really hard sell. In fact something we don't think we can defend anymore As to specific vetoes You and I both know It doesn't come over one by one Line item by line item does not come over They come over large appropriations bills And will work with Congress To go through the process And make determinations on whether or not to sign Appropriation bills Or veto them at appropriate time And that to me is also the bottom line. I agree with that. I don't really have much of a problem with this. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, these things are just drinking clubs as far as i'm concerned when it comes to like there's the group that gives them government money they don't need that money they obviously don't need no money No!

1:55:28 You know, if I was running the thing, I'd moan and groan about it because the money's good. It's good money but you can get by." And we need to start cutting this stuff because we have to reset because we're going into the toilet here with our debt and when it comes home to roost which will be maybe this year, it's gonna cause a huge problem. It's gonna slow down everything. You're not gonna get any money government or otherwise. It's gonna be a disaster. Unless Whoopi opens up her pocketbook. And that ain't happening. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda! Imagine all the people who could do that? Oh yeah, that'd be fab! On No Agenda! One morning... Opening up the pocketbook is not trivial apparently at least today We sent a newsletter out to 16 thousand people and only 25 would respond with more than $50 in donations

1:56:28 Which I think is rather... What happened? I think it was an off day that perhaps people were watching NCAA basketball tournament or they lost their, you know, their brackets and a bet at the office. I have no idea but I found this to be a piss poor performance. Oh! And there he is putting your newly learned knowledge to use But we can thank Derek Adams-White in Queensland, Australia for $172. Also RC Mouse for a hundred dollars in Vista California and he sent in a card so since anyone sends in a card it's gonna get read. Thank you very much for the great show and the media deconstruction on Show 910

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2:01:14 Yeah, the boob link was a good one too. What was it? It's a bunch of boobs Okay makes total sense No we had...it took to Kurt Eichenwald picture with the stooge and we did want to discuss a little bit about what happened to him Well first I want to thank everybody for their courage for supporting the program also people who came in under $50 that is typically done for anonymity reasons Or you may be on one of the programs layaway programs all of this helps incredibly Very very appreciative, and let's show them. Let's show them that we don't need no government funding We're doing okay You know how we do it by not having huge staff and producers by working hard Working hard. We don't have anyone doing the work for us And you got these NPR people they roll into the studio

2:02:09 This is right. I worked at these places you go roll in and you get somebody hands You a script, and yeah practice it or not Yeah, you can do good good cold reads that some people can we resist we much hey right? but he obviously thinks he could do cold reads and Somebody writes it for you, and he's up there. And then they put makeup on you? They put you in the makeup room where they slap powder and they... Oh your hairline needs a little work! But John when you really think about it There is so much, particularly with today's technology. There is so much that can be cut in all news organizations You cannot make money on a podcast if you want to have a producer and someone who edits for you And a dude named Ben to upload...you gotta do some stuff yourself It's just over

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2:05:39 Oh. You know, I told you my Percy Sledge story didn't i? We're gonna hear it now Yeah It was a kind of small gig It was part of a radio thing in Holland and so it was in a cafe and there's a stage riser but the lights were relatively low because it wasn't like a huge concert venue And Percy is there He has about four songs he does just over and over again or did But he had all this jerry curl on his hair Old school jerry curl Then, what exactly... do we know the history of Jerry Curl? I don't know it but i remember when it came out in the 50s or 60s and was used to create that effect. Yeah, it's a permed hairstyle. Greasy looking but... Oh here we go! Invented by hairdresser Jerry Redding

2:06:30 No, it's okay. Okay so the jerry curl is just a style but there's a lot of liquid in there. There's goop! Yeah, goop, goop... So he's singing when a man loves a woman and he's belting it out but he's standing right under and of course back in the day we didn't have LED lights no we had 2.2 kilowatt lights I know those things were hot And he was standing under it and his hair is smoking John And it's more and more. And I got on the intercom, I said, I'm going on stage. I gotta get him away from the light! He's going to combust! We saved him. No, I'm sorry. I saved him. Yeah you saved no one else cared. I saved him. Hey that smoking thing looks great. See if it catches on fire that'd be cool. Yeah man exactly okay

2:07:22 All right, so let's just be real aside here. I just want to get this Kurt Eichenwald the writer is a Newsweek writer used to be in The New York Times and he made a fuss over this and if what he says is true I can assume why it made a fuss but some He's a big Trump basher and some douchebag sent him, said really? And sent him a gif. The guy has epilepsy. Oh right now okay maybe let's just clarify this for a second but I was amazed at this story so the mechanics of it were that someone sent him an email

2:07:58 Right? No, I thought it was a Twitter fee thing. But he...I think he had to click on the link or something Okay And when he clicked on the link It was clinking and clinking involved Then it opened up a page that had flashes intended to induce an epileptic fit Or so just a seizure Yes An epileptic seizure Yeah Yeah exactly Has this been done successfully? I find this to be an incredible weapon It's a known thing that you can do. On the computer screen though? That's why they warn you about flashbulbs on English television, warning flashbulbs because apparently if enough flash bulbs go off you can get this effect and I don't know what the frequency is, I don't know how to do it but it's doable but I don't know what the results would be. This guy... Let me read this thing from the Raw Story

2:08:50 Just three months ago, Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald temporarily quit Twitter. It's Twitter as a result of the support for Donald or after a supporter of Donald Trump sent him a flashing image that is just on Twitter that triggered an epileptic seizure Friday I can wall tweeted at the man who was sent the strobing image has been arrested by the FBI and I find this to be peculiar Yeah The man faces federal charge charges will be indicted the debtors in Dallas and other charges for this is an attack after the news came out that someone had harmed Ikenwald. Unlined Copycat sent him similar graphics of how much he's loved, I guess. Oh yeah? Hey there Chase look at mine! Apparently the FBI went and tracked down 40 people who did this one of the reports says that

2:09:38 He had a seizure, couldn't move one side of his body. I couldn't talk for days on end. Now I've known people that have grand mal and both grand mal and petite mal which was more noticeable when i was a kid because it wasn't good medication for either one And with grand mal, which is the most...is the exaggerated version. I'm not even familiar with these terms, grand mal. Grand mal is the real epileptic seizure where you go nuts or your usually fall down or you start yelling and screaming or you start running around. There's different ways you can react to it. We had a guy in my school who used to go beat people up. Just a short interjection after you left, not long after he left last night?

2:10:21 The party officially became a party as one of the guests, a guy face planted right into the floor. And I was like this is so cool! This is like a real party he had a seizure but unfortunately... But it was just like a real party. I'm not kidding. Was there an epileptic seizure or what? Not sure All I know is all I know is yeah now we're starting to face Anyway, so the petite mall is like you just kind of zone It does not much to it and we I knew a kid who had this and it was just like he'd be talking to you And then all of a sudden he'd be staring for maybe 20 seconds. And then kinda just be literally gone

2:11:03 But you wouldn't notice this if you weren't aware of these things. Right, but apparently Eichenwald went down! He went down and hurt himself I guess and then he was numb on one side of his body...I don't know about this effect But I assume it's possible. All I know is my boyhood friend, my next door neighbor had epilepsy when we were growing up and we were all on the block. We're all taught if Hans has a seizure then you got to make sure that he doesn't swallow his tongue or try to bite his tongue off and you've gotta put a piece of wood or something in his mouth. Sadly, we never got to try it. How cool would that have been? As a kid! Not now... Anyway so the FBI is going after this and I'm thinking there's a number of screwy things about this one

2:12:02 Is it leading, is it going to lead to something like if you send somebody a triggering picture of a mouse with his head cut off let's say because people will send that out as nasty. Oh yeah? And they just sent a picture of the dead animal or the goat see through some pictures. My favorite! So if you send that out, is this an attack? Well I totally agree that this is going to be very interesting. Is it Twitter's fault for allowing this clearly weaponized tweet going through

2:12:38 And should they put in... Should they put in... Weaponized tweet is a good show title. Weaponized tweet, yeah or should it be you know like the an automatic Twitter trigger warning? You know people are asking me to all the time I got a note this morning please don't play the Rosie O'Donnell nyet-nyet thing! A horrible hate it hurts me and so what do you want a trigger warning every time I do something maybe that's what people want a Twitter trigger warning well I think Twitter It has a big, it's a computer system. It should be able to catch this sort of thing something that strobe Yes one of these hypnotic strobe things and just not run it they should just kill it there's no reason they can't I can let know there's no reason to run this sort of an animated gif They should kill it in the process but I think it's gonna Be very interesting to see how far you can go if you're gonna if you're going

2:13:40 Arrest someone for sending a strobe light tweet to a guy with epilepsy first And I guess they kind of proved the guy knew where they found some documents that the guy knew that Eichenwald had epilepsy So you can say there was intent so they got the intent part. I'm pretty sure right, but still is it really? Can you call somebody a name you're a jerk and And you don't realize, but when they hear the word jerk they go into it and have a tantrum or something. I mean...I don't know. I find this to be very weird. Yeah, I tried clipping someone sent me a rather long video of this. I'll have to find it. There's some outfit in California, I think

2:14:26 And they are focusing very heavily on how words hurt people. You know, the antithesis of sticks and stones may break your bones but words will never hurt me... We've been following this. Free speech is going to have to—it's going away! Certainly if you don't own the avenue where this free speech wants to take place such as Twitter So I think Twitter will have to instead, but you know Twitter or Facebag it's not going to end well for them. Let's hope! It just can't. At a certain point you have a checklist of all these things that you can and cannot say or post

2:15:10 It'll just be over. I watch my followers go up and down with whenever I post certain things that are political, I've decided i'm not going to post political stuff, there's some good stuff out there too! Well I have a link here from BBC Germany warns social media firms over illegal content. Germany's justice minister has drafted a law that seeks to impose the fines as part of efforts to police toxic chat Hilo Maas said the voluntary efforts of social networks to tackle the problem had not gone far enough. The proposal requires sites to run 24-hour helplines and to delete flagged content within seven days This is not... this is the internet! It's not gonna work that way Unbelievable Mr. Maas quoted research which suggests Twitter deletes only 1% of the hate speech

2:16:08 It is told about by users and Facebook only 39%. Racism and hate speech are believed to have become more prevalent on German social media following the arrival of large number of refugees in Germany. Any content that was clearly criminal would have to be removed within 24 hours under conditions outlined in the draft law, it's a draft law okay? If after investigation content has found to be criminal then that must be removed in seven days The people who posted illegal content must also be told about its deletion This is not going to work long term, certainly not. But where's the criteria? Where's the criteria and I think it is very interesting at what point is your tweet weaponized? Well, can adjust pictures? I agree. Now as you know, I'm on board with what I call memology of memes and I think memes are very powerful if they're done right. I think they're super powerful

2:17:11 You're talking about a true meme that goes on into the public domain or you talk about one of those photos that somebody puts words around and they call that a meme? Both. I think that the picture memes sometimes can be very, very... A lot of them are dumb and don't do anything some of them are powerful. I know they are! I know that stuff works But will that then, you know what? Let's do some more research. Then maybe that'll be forbidden." Where does it end? Forbidden tweets! That's forbidden. You cannot do that. Verboten tweets. Verboten... Well anyway so that's the story which is developing So we have no other clip to connect with Eichenwalde? No I got no backup for the train thing. Okay. Eichenwalde is not talking to anybody Alright. So..I do have this couple of stories here We have uh how much time do we have left on this show?

2:18:06 It'd be probably about 10 more minutes, although let's say 11. Might as well say 12 No! No because after you play this next clip then the ten minute warning should sound Well I have a couple of things- Well let's play- I mean I got some time Oh i'm sorry Less than ten minutes to go You're wasting valuable time Let's play this clip This is kind of tech news thing maybe it's not really but its kinda something that I wanted to play Have you ever heard about gray ball? Gray Ball?! Oh, Grayball. Yeah it's a this has something to do with masking ride sharing right? There is Uber and Grayball I just thought this would be kind of interesting to me But first uber has announced it will no longer use gray ball A secret software developed and used to avoid officials It suspected conducting sting operations on drivers

2:19:02 So how did the program work? Shirley Sitbon has the story. When you thought 2017 couldn't get any worse for Uber, it just did. According to a New York Times report the company intentionally dodged rules of towns that banned its services. Uber allegedly used a secret program called Grayball, a software that allowed them to identify which users may have been trying to prove the company was operating illegally One technique involved drawing a digital perimeter dubbed GeoFence around government offices on the digital map. The company would then watch which users would frequently open and close the app as evidence the person was associated to city agencies, a process nicknamed eyeballing credit card information to find direct links to institutions like a police credit union were also used

2:19:57 Based on the data collected, Uber then served up a fake version of the app with ghost cars to those tagged or grayballed as city officials. According to the article it's been going on for awhile back in 2014 Portland City officials tried to catch uber in the act but yeah there are two drivers that Grayball was reportedly approved by the company's legal team. Uber says it is a way for them to stop consumers from using its service improperly This comes at time of intense negative media coverage for uber At the top of list claims by former female engineer that HR department ignored multiple instances sexual harassment and discrimination Chief executive Travis Kalanick

2:20:49 Gray ball, I like every day bring in unrelated information into the story. Why why why so if I understand correctly grayballing is to Make sure that people who are gonna spy on the company To see if they're doing things right that they don't get picked up well In the case of Portland and some of these other cities as if they were still working in Austin yes And it just didn't want to get busted well They're coming back illegal in Austin where was you know word? Is there coming back hmm? That's the word That's the word. Hey, I got one! Okay... This is um you mentioned it one or two shows ago with the fence jumper Yes i have a clip on him uh okay well i'll do uh well i thought we played your fence jumper clip? You have a new one? The Secret Service Report CBS? Do you have a new one yeah this is new

2:21:46 Oh, let's play that then. I want to hear that. I have something maybe related. Let's check this. The Secret Service is investigating an embarrassing breach of security... Are you sure we didn't play this already? I'm so sure we played this! Well, this is the one about the laptop mostly. Okay there you go. It's the latest in a string of them over the past few years CBS News has learned that an agent's laptop computer containing sensitive information is missing Here's Jeff Pegues The laptop was stolen yesterday morning from a Secret Service agent's car. What kind of voice is this guy really trying to put on? I've got the Jeff Begays does a lot of stuff and he does talk a little bit like a guy that's a character in a cartoon playing a guy who is yelling out a news story And I do not know why I'm talking like this however we will continue to bring you the information!

2:22:38 The laptop was stolen yesterday morning from a Secret Service agent's car parked on this street in Brooklyn. Law enforcement sources say the computer contained information about Trump Tower and information on Hillary Clinton, also missing Secret Service agent lapel pins for the Trump and Clinton campaigns as well as the 2015 papal visit. Okay stop right there! We know this, we need to make sure that people who are new to the program know. That is a serious security violation! The lapel pins... They're really seriously important because the lapel pins are how you identify for each scenario. We know this, we've gotten this information If your part of a particular day and they have meetings Today were wearing this pin so y'all can identify if someone shows up with the wrong pin there's something very wrong

2:23:34 All the way you get around because you go and see what the Secret Service pin they're wearing, then you have that pin. This report doesn't emphasize that and it talks about there's a little fence jumping action in here but... It's not done. You want to play the rest? Yeah, play the rest of it because there are a couple of points that they didn't even make and this guy Pegues puts together he has another story I do have a clip of him He drops when he is in his booth doing editing he says he is pretty loose and loosey goosey seems to me but we will discuss that later Clinton campaigns as well as 2015 papal visit

2:24:11 Police have grainy surveillance videos showing someone breaking into the vehicle, but detectives have been unable to develop a profile of the suspect or determine whether the agent was specifically targeted. What happened to rotate enhance and zoom? In his statement The Secret Service said its laptops contain multiple layers of security including full disk encryption and are not permitted to contain classified information The theft comes less than a week after intruder Jonathan Tran climbed over the White House fence and roamed around undetected for nearly 17 minutes while President Trump was in the executive mansion. The Secret Service says Tran scaled three different fences on the White House grounds, one five feet

2:25:00 one eight feet and one three-and-a-half feet while uniformed divisions officers attempted to ascertain the location and identity of the individual. Before deconstructing this, I would just like to remind people we believe these types reports are meant for one reason only—to communicate with the President, and they did it to President Obama a lot… We can get you whenever we want! They had this guy, a Vietnamese guy from around here. He's from Palo Alto or something like that and they had him on the street I don't have the clip of it but I did watch this. He is walking down the street he is wearing a suit and tie looks very normal

2:25:40 And she's, reporters running up to him and they got the camera and you can tell he's backpedaling as fast as he can talking to this guy. She says why did you do it? Why did you run into the, why'd you run around on the lawn? And the kid says, kid is like 20 something. He says I was just looking for...I'm trying to get some attention. Trying to draw attention of myself. And she says The president says your unhinged or something wrong with you. And the guy says yeah, he's probably right! Wow. Anyway, I got part two of this if you want to play it live. House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz has investigated other White House breaches and says Tran nearly made it inside the mansion The idea that somebody could jump the fence at the White House be on the grounds for upwards of 15 plus minutes Be right up against the building hide behind a pillar and then jiggle the door That can never ever happen And yet it happened again

2:26:38 In 2014, a man scaled the White House fence and made it all the way into the East Room. Anthony's Secret Service officials are angered by this latest breach and CBS News has learned that it is expected to lead to suspensions and possibly termination for some of the people involved. Jeff Begays thanks Jeff. This laptop part that's a new twist to the old fence jumping thing though... And by the way they jiggle their handle I thought was dynamite Yes, the laptop thing. But this thing's got disk encryption it sounds like they've got their encryption act together and there is no problem here Probably not but still you guys password written right on the laptop You just gotta wonder why... So here they have grainy surveillance video Why? Huh

2:27:28 Why have surveillance video at all? If it's gonna be grainy. Yeah, I know We can have a drone flying over everything 24-7 getting down to you know 30 centimeters Yeah what does it take yeah I don't like this didn't like it when they did it to Obama I don't like it It's mean Well yeah definitely mean Uh I did not put this together but I thought it was a cute montage that I wanted to share from uh Media Research Center You know, they're totally right-wing love Trump hate everybody else but they did put together a funny little bit in relation to the tax returns or tax return The two pages of the tax return that Rachel Maddow brought to the forefront and helped us understand And I really like this little compilation of all the people who were so certain that Trump never paid any taxes in the past 20 years

2:28:30 This is not something you would typically see on mainstream media. And again, we didn't put it together but I think it's fun to listen to. income taxes. Donald Trump is avoiding paying taxes. He won't pay taxes on the fact that he hasn't paid taxes for almost 20 years. He doesn't pay taxes in 20 years, probably hasn't paid taxes in 18 years. We know he didn't pay his taxes for 20 years. He didn't pay income taxes for 18 years. So Donald Trump hasn't paid taxes in the past 20 years. We're not even talking about the fact that Trump didn't pay taxes. Now, the idea that Trump hasn't paid taxes nearly twenty years... That means Trump hasn't paid taxes since the year his next wife was born! Even if Trump hasn't paid federal income taxes for 18 years who knows?

2:29:20 the So, people can in the chat room calling me a Trump lover which I really despise. I kick you out the minute you say that and I'm more critical of Trump than most Yeah who talks about him being so fat? Besides us! Fat...I've never heard anybody discuss this No that's right and Moreover we not only just talked about him being fat but how he covers it up yeah there is methodology for covering it up Yes

2:30:20 Yeah, what could be more complete than that? This show's worth its weight in gold. Yeah I concur all right. Do a little uh how about a uh get to mosque but i got a lot of stuff oh this is interesting and I have a story to go with it and then I won't do anything else like that I can move this stuff till Thursday okay but this or what today is Thursday yeah no today is Sunday today's Sunday hello Yeah, there was the I got off but everything gets off when i have to when i gotta do something that's Off-schedule and going down to Los Gatos the cats Did that to me?

2:30:59 Hello. Face recognition, here we go. In the near future CCTV will not only film us and detect dangerous behavior but it will also be able to identify each and every one of us in real time It's made possible thanks to phenomenal advances in facial recognition technology as Alex Hurst explains. It might sound like something out of George Orwell's 1984 with Big Brother watching your every move But with advances in facial recognition software, it could be a reality sooner than you think. In the past few months Eurostar, the high-speed train that connects Paris and London has been testing such software at security screenings The technology is advancing at a rapid pace and becoming more effective

2:31:47 Like this software created by a French company for the FBI, which is adept at recognizing faces even when they aren't completely turned towards the camera. The program is also able to tell when someone has changed their appearance For example you might think that these are two different people That would be a mistake of two different Chinese women. Yeah, and when you look at him here there's not the same it's not the same person she had but what it was is it is the same person she had work done. No? But... And they could see that? Yes! I have actually experienced this equipment and I'm going to talk about it. I think I've clipped 2 here. It says 3.

2:32:35 Even more efficient software can track a subject like this man as he passes from one camera to another. You see that at 12 32, he was over there on camera 2 and then he shows up again on camera 1 and you can follow as he goes the benefit is that we gain time The implications go well beyond saving time during investigations The software could potentially be used in real time, for example to scan crowds as they wait to enter sports stadiums. For the moment problems remain with poor video quality the system can make errors and to identify a suspect that person has to already exist in a database somewhere

2:33:23 Plus, widespread use would raise questions about civil liberties and the ability for ordinary people to go where they please anonymously. Oh yes! It might raise questions you think? You think?! Someone's gonna get killed from this you know that's obviously going to happen wrong guy I had been just about five years ago was in Portugal for some event and And there was a computer show that I went to, it was...I think it's one of the reasons why I was there if I'm not mistaken. But next to the show and lot of these areas where they have exhibits and exhibitions, sometimes two or three from different industries running parallel. Well next to the computer show was a

2:34:12 law enforcement tools show with all kinds of crazy stuff, cop cars and all these things. So I warmed my way into that event because it would seem more interesting to me and they had this equipment and this is like five years ago huh? And it was, I'm pretty sure it was a French company. I'm guessing it's the same company because they... So then they had this turnstile they had like a thing to walk through and you know, the demo was you get there, you walk through it and once it identifies you, every time he walked through it says it's you so you go through this. It actually works so well, it's creepy. You go through it and puff out your cheeks

2:34:53 And you squint your eyes and puff out your cheeks. Boom, John! You turn sideways to give it like a profile. Boom, John! How about if you're wearing a hat? A hat doesn't matter. I couldn't do anything. I tried and tried and tried... The guy said this thing is everybody's John the guy walks through now it says this guy so I could not beat this thing and I tried every way possible And every time it was you'd identify me. It was unbelievable and that was years ago I can't imagine what it's like now, it must be just absolute dynamite That's why I could spot that woman who had the she had a nose job and it's only a same person Certainly if she's Asian, you know If she's Chinese and there's a lot of things just new hair color eye color doesn't really change

2:35:43 She had a facelift and a nose job. And still it could detect that? Yeah, well they said but I don't know if it could or not but I can tell you this the equipment I was dealing with was no...I could not do anything! I couldn't scrunch up my face, I couldn't give it smirks or down, you know pull back edges nothing It was always catching me. There is a Turing test for this type of equipment And I believe if any facial recognition program can identify Rachel Maddow today from TRMF and the high school yearbook photo of her, then you've got a damn good machine. Have you ever seen the high school yearbook photo of Rachel Maddow? No no i haven't Just search right now uh Yearbook Rachel Maddow it'll be the top one

2:36:34 If any machine can identify that, then it's worth its weight in gold. Well it doesn't necessarily... maybe! I mean might you never know? I have no idea but I'm telling you this stuff works great the only good news is that if you're not in the database they won't recognize you How about if you put on eye patch? I think it would still catch ya. Alright everybody. I want to uh, I'm wrapping it up John. I know i'm gonna get this before you're done Get what? The picture Rachel Okay good well my thanks for sure to Grand Duke Sir David Foley for his hospitality and of course to his lovely family Holy crap! And there is There it is and his lovely wife Lisa

2:37:26 and their son, and... She's got that big thick neck. All of their friends- And now this one is like she has the same eyes and she got a big thick neck all of their friends who are here in the community who welcomed us with open arms despite well you know the Tourettes yes indeed You're Touretting it up! Tourette's and Skechers Hey! Sketchers Coming to you from Chez Foley here in Southern Silicon Valley everybody We'll be back Back on Thursday in the morning. My name's Adam Curry and for Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C Dvorak as said we will return on Thursday right here on no agenda until then adios mofos Donate to a no agenda they give us shows week after week donate to a no agenda

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2:39:17 What I can say is there are many ways to surveil each other. The British spying against GCHQ's Primo went outside the chain of command. And that is just the fact that they're not targeting Americans, they're doing it purposefully to get to Americans Let us know what this story is. Go to noagendashow.com Alright, we ready? I can't help but think about Upton Sinclair who said it's hard to get a man to believe something when his salary depends on his not believing. That's your business too Bill! So you must believe this

2:40:18 Okay, he's got the Upton Sinclair quote wrong. It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it. Ah! He substituted the word believe. So you must believe this? This is not a scientific anything...this is a belief system and he actually proves it by using the word belief instead of understands. Shut up! So I predict that the year 2016 will be among the top 10 hottest years ever recorded. Oh, well i'm not a scientist either but... Believe this! You believe in the wrong religion my friend. Douche Was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron? Or was it appropriate to jail people from cigarette industry

2:41:11 So I can see where people are very concerned about this and they're pursuing criminal investigations. So we'll see what happens, We'll see what happens... So what we want to do is have a fee for carbon. There it is! Unprecedented cunts! The ability to create... ...which doesn't have... ...inside at all with reality to create reality.

2:42:11 Thanks Nancy, thanks Nancy. We should agree to the motion reconsider... reconsider many in length. Nancy, thank you. Which doesn't... I can say it's pretty small but really all you're eating with your... Object to this! ...all you need for one person which doesn't have a stove... ...facility to create reality... Eating with... ...a kid who's soon... ...perceived as an executive session of two dozen and eleven... So then there's just 251 square foot apartment

2:42:53 which doesn't coincide at all with the ability to create... ...and that now, congratulations are in your hands. It's about time you get a chance. It doesn't coincide at all... Adios, mofo! The best podcast in the universe! Borac dot org slash N-A Thanks Nancy. Thanks Obama