Loyalty Test

00:00 No, it's not an O-O. It's an O! Adam Curry John C Devorah And Sunday January 29th 2017 this is your award winning GiveMyNation Media Assassination Episode 899er This is no agenda Sliding between parallel universes with ease and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet right here in downtown Austin Tejas In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've got my duck call John C. DeVore I Kidokie that was exciting that was yes riveting really? Buon giorno hey, I'm speaking Italian buongiorno

00:45 Yeah, you speak in Italian. My Italian nephew is in town visiting me Matteo You guys going out and beating some thugs? Let's see what we've done We we did the typical go to a music store and buy guitar Buy no like you know play stairway to heaven a lot And then by it by guitar that's an Austin staple he can place their way to have him He's very good guitarist actually watch recorded I'm a song yeah Uh-huh. That's your favorite song? I don't think so Well, it's a song if everyone ever goes floating around with me we go to a bar There's a piano bar there's a guy playing guitar i always give them five bucks If they play stairway to heaven It always brings the house down! It's true though and you often sing along with uh with stairway to heaven

01:42 And yesterday we went to the shooting range, and you know so he's getting a full-on taste of Texas. They have pinched off a few rounds. Pinched off quite a few. We tossed some brass is what we did But you know this kid is smart He's 19 and You said maybe I would get lucky now would get a rundown a millennial rundown on what's happening in Italy Oh? I did! I'm all ears Yeah well It's not good His generation pretty much sees everybody older than them as people who only care about one thing and one thing only for all of Italy. Hillary? No, football... soccer for us. Soccer?! They do not give a crap about anything! As long as there's soccer on TV everything is good

02:32 No, the kids or the adults? The adults. So the kid... Yeah that makes sense! That's what they've been trying- that's what the whole New World Order has been trying to promote soccer in the United States for. Right right. Get us to be the same way. Well that's a good point I hadn't even thought about the soccer angle to it. Ohhhh! So i said well you know how about the economy what's going on what do you guys think he said oh well we're screwed so what do you mean well and he did the kids know very well that uh the only money that comes into Italy is from the European Central Bank And the main reason they get a lot of money is because of their main business model in Italy, which is migrants. Everybody wants migrants because that's the only way we get money from the EU and that money flows right into the economy. We've discussed this where if you want to...if you got a house or if you wanted set up an

03:24 living quarters, etc. for migrants you get 45 euros per day per migrant to do that and from that you give a couple shekels to the migrants and the rest is business model but that is not the thing I found most interesting. Sounds like a very good economy It does or doesn't? Doesn't why would that sound like a good economy? That's dumb. Of course not so I said, well what's going on with the economy we said well you know we obviously have olive oil We have wine although he says wall of yeah wait He said no this is a 19 year old kid who really knows what's happening in his country. I was very impressed He said but wine were going down the tubes because California now has the exact right conditions that rival Chianti

04:12 You would know better than I John, but he says that's that seems to be problematic that they can't compete anymore with California wines. Is that a are you disagreeing? I'm totally disagreeing okay. Well. I'm just saying what he says but here's the number one problem He says The Chinese oh yeah, this is the Chinese yeah, yeah They say the Chinese are buying up the following football clubs Milan, Inter. They're buying up the olive oil companies and they are buying up almost every single fashion brand Dolce & Gabbana all of them being bought out by the Chinese I mean does that mean the Chinese kind of view Italy similar to Africa? Apparently yeah We'll build some roads too

05:13 And all the kids see it and they're like, yeah. Well okay so they all want to leave They don't want to get out where are they gonna go? Italians are in Italy well he's lucky He has a dual citizenship now willow did a really good job But she spent I think better portion of a year on Getting all the forms and everything because you know she's American But they were both born in Italy, and she got went through all the trouble And she got them dual citizenship. They even had to do a little ceremony and wave their flag and yes I'm now citizen So they have lots of rights to come in here if they want to which brings us to the topic at hand Okay Yeah, and I was gonna say something actually before we start

06:03 You know, we've been talking a lot about parallel universes and again there's just tons and tons of examples of people using these words in their speech. In fact, let me just start with Christiana Anampur who just rolls it out as usual. Look seriously Steve Bannon is playing the role that he set out for himself There's obviously some kind of strategy here Although it's hard for me to comprehend it because you know I operate in this truth and the fact-based universe You see she operates in the truth and fact based universe It's getting interesting how this is in the lexicon now

06:39 But there is a parallel universe and I have proof, and it's frightening to me. And it should be frightening to you as well John You know how in the lot of these parallel universe parallel worlds multiverse theories There is another Adam Curry doing a show Maybe it's completely different type of show or different angle but they could be multiple! We have captured a different version of either you or me In a different universe. Is this the daily code source? No! Which would be the alternate version of your show? No, no... This is agenda NO?!

07:25 Um, from the Twit Network. Padre SJ. Another hour listening to the best podcast in the universe that's according to 9 out of 10 virtual machines you've used up another hour listen to the best podcasts in the universe that's according to nine out of ten GIS filters into the best podcasts in the universe apparently this alternative universe has been going on for a while and he is us! Well he needs to lose some weight Okay I thought it was a little frightening I saw that little Twitter thing going back and forth between you two. No, I wasn't tweeting him someone else was tweeting him. I had nothing to do with it. I thought you tweeted them or sent something saying yeah It's okay can use our moniker no I didn't I did no such thing and know he's not all it was your alter ego Yeah, that's not okay for him to do that what happened if thou shalt not steal hmm So he's been using best podcast in the universe yes

08:28 Since when? Well, not before us and he also claims that we stole it from him. That's not even possible! It is in the multiverse John anything is possible So I got into a little Twitter thing with going back and forth with...I found a number of good examples of this With Jay Rosen. You were back and forth with Jay Rosen? I called him out on something, he's over tweeting something. Wait a minute are you the Twitter police? Hey! Hey Rosen your over tweeting! Funny that is what he said. He says well you have this soul of a cop.

09:13 Whoa, that's fighting words. And I'm thinking in the two universes...I guess on his universe which he was on that other side he's over on the globalist side mm-hmm That's why I've divided it up Yes, so there no that would be an insult to No Nations No Borders universe. Yeah, that's a good name for it. No borders, no nations is the way it actually goes. So that would be an insult but then the other side It would be a compliment Yes, if yeah of course if that's yeah for the you could say that You have the soul of a cop and I can see it being interpreted as in fact. I think is I was going to tweet back Thanks for the insult slash compliment Straddling the two universes which what we try to do on this show well with now with that in mind I Will read a note okay one of our guys who quit the show oh yes? We've had a number of these once again

10:10 Yeah, and it's always one thing or another. A lot of it is pent-up hostility toward the show because we refuse to budge on a number of points – global warming being one of them. Mainly, I would just reiterate that with global warming the whole concept everything is based on a computer model and I'm on the ocean, and there's no sea rising. I've got mud flats right here that I can visually see. It hasn't changed for a hundred years so where is the rising tides? I like to think they had that excuse recently Oh it turns out there are no rising tides in the Pacific because Australia is acting like a giant sponge! Remember that story? You know there was also an article that came out A Dutch scientific article That says global warming can actually produce lowering of sea level

10:58 Isn't this great? It's like damned if you do, damned if you don't. Whatever it is we're all gonna die and that's another... That's the new scientific... Just what you do! Hey, it's not going my way. And as part of the globalist agenda because it even got to work global in it That's okay. We lose these people, we are fighting against a machine with single-handed and single handed two of us. Two of us are fighting against the giant machine and we have a lot of listeners there is no doubt about that but they also get mostly subjected to the machine and the machines better than we are because it is bigger. And the machine is nipping at our heels

11:43 I looked at the spreadsheet today and of course, you know the common comment we get is well if you stop being the Trump protection podcast maybe your donations would go up. I'm gonna speak on my behalf We have been doing the same thing with the same attitude...of course the show has changed And if it's not sustainable, first of all I'm not getting any checks from anybody except for you and if that's gonna dry up we're gonna have to go find something else to do. I'm not going to compromise It's with great sadness and a feeling of realness from Scott M The great sadness in the feeling of real loss that I unsubscribe from your email list This is after. I sent out one of the best emails ever according to most people yeah, which of course brought in very low don't know I never bring the good newsletters no response the ones that get big donations is subject line hey

12:36 Hey, hey. There's more money! Oh okay. When we give actual content...actual content? Nah not so much And so then he goes because you see these guys they're just a subtle repressed anger or something because it goes like this It's not even subtle John every line starts with I'm quitting and I'm out I can't believe Let me read it. In truth, this is a good one... in truth I've never opened that many of your emails although i did enjoy the ones I read Or red. I have also canceled my subscription to the show, I will miss you John! I have been a fan since i heard you on twit. I can still remember the show when you guys came up with the name...I think I was using podcast pickle at that time. I stopped listening to all those shows I subscribed too all about android twig because I didn't like how you were treated near the end and I thought that not only were you treated with disrespect

13:32 But that Leo condoned it. I think Leo and some of the other younger people owe you a great deal for helping to pave the way for them." Enough of that! Why am i quitting this show? There are several reasons. Reason number one, global warming. I don't really care whether you believe in global warming or not The truth is we're making an unbelievable mess of this little ball we live on We may stop or most of us will die. Either way the results will be the same. Two guns I'm Canadian, i've used guns. I've used them to target shoot and kill things Both of these things I did with long guns. I don't see the need for handguns other than for law enforcement etc The proliferation of small concealable guns just leads to more dead people If you want to protect yourself your home nothing works better than a 12 gauge shotgun Pretty much what I have always said Haven't we said this forever?

14:34 A shotgun is the best, the shell goes in here. Joe Biden says that too! Yeah you point in the general direction it's always going to be okay I don't know what his complaint is here because he ends it and then goes next He's repressed there's something going on with him, something personal life Three this is the one Trump enough Trump already tell that to the mainstream media I stayed with you through the election I wish you had the same time limit We do. The non-US segments of the show are so few and far between that frankly I lost interest, only wanted more Canadian news. Yeah. Uh...I know it is important even for Canada but enough already My biggest concern is that I think you've become an echo chamber of two Oh yeah Maybe just maybe not all the people That have left in the last six months because you were Hillary supporters

15:27 were Hillary's, because they were Hillary supporters. Maybe the show just wasn't meeting their needs anymore I know i've been an infrequent financial supporter in all the months of that boils it down and all the months that the focus has been your election. I felt it wasn't necessary. I took the time to write this because I hope its helpful I wish you Adam and your families all the best may you enjoy health and happiness if you ever had in Victoria BC meetup, I'd be very grateful for the chance to meet you. You're banned! You're banned! No he took himself off the mailing list how am i supposed to get a hold of him? Right thanks for all the years of listening I will check-in in the future S Scott M in Sydney B C so yeah I was disappointing

16:13 I mean, you know if you don't want to listen just you well. Don't you have to send these notes? They're actually kind of subversive now those notes are and and I don't want to talk about it Actually, I'm kind of done But those those notes are meant to engage you if they're acts I believe they're actually trying to get you to say yeah You're right We should do be a talk about long guns in Canada And no Trump that you know hey, I think I replied to him hey man. You should do a podcast It's easy Yeah, that's always a good cheap way to work. Anyway moving back into... there is something else going on with this parallel universe we are in a fractal of repetition of course fractals are repetitive but we can almost predict

16:58 everything that is going to happen because it started with, oh yes we're living in the times of 1984. Now you'll recall that we were discussing this book maybe eight years ago...of course is not like a new book and when we were comparing it to what was happening at the time and now we have people so I know and I think obviously we have quite a list of books that are parallels to the time we felt certainly in the past 10 years. Don't know if that's changed, but when you hear what is going on in the in the meeting the corporate media Well listen to this number one It's been over one for a few days This isn't 1984 being the number-one book on Amazon which I think it's also demonstrably not true But doesn't matter right now. Number one. It's been over one for a few days now And it's actually sold out on Amazon so the publisher penguin More copies of the book and the reason why people are associating alternative facts with 1984 is because in that

17:59 book all about big brother and surveillance there's this idea of newspeak that war is actually peace, that famine is actually feast. The idea that words and language are manipulated by this all-powerful ruler so obviously lots of differences between then the fake book and now that fictional book is resonating with lots of people it's not the only one today on Amazon Sinclair Lewis says It Can't Happen Here! Now okay let's just predict Garden of the Beast will be the next one that'll be selling like hotcakes. I mean, these are all the books on the No Agenda Book Club! And Poppy Harlow, who is listening to this. She is not have to say it an idiot about a fascist takeover of the United States is actually number four maybe it'll creep up the number three and join 1984 on the list few other books with similar themes are all on the Amazon bestsellers list This is clearly at least in part a reaction to Trump's presidency I would assume mostly liberal readers buying these books wanting to read these fictional stories about what can happen In a place like Iran doing better

19:01 What's that? Do we know of any Ayn Rand books back there?" What an idiot! That is good. She clearly has never read Atlas Shrugged, or you'd never say that... I'm looking at the Amazon site right now. There are plenty of copies of 1984 available and it's not sold out. Of course. But do you see what's happening? It's like all these things that we discussed when there was a different administration are coming back almost in sequential order Yeah, it's right pretty much the same order. It was true. Hey, it's baffling That's why I say garden Garden of the Beast What other books did we have by the way? The night that you can't happen here is about a socialist government taking over not as fast just I know that's what so and so Why do you switch? Why do you want to switch that they're talking about alternative facts? Fact-check false oh yeah exactly

19:55 Yeah, it's getting kind of kooky. And then this has to be just my favorite thing that was done... I mean everybody is you know of course we have all this worry about Donald Trump and we might as well throw some scientists in there they got the big March for Science coming up i believe and everyone's going to participate with Neil deGrasse and And Bill Nye up front will be the leaders of this movement, I'm sure. And...of course we had this happen. The board concludes in no uncertain terms that words matter in ensuring the safety and security of our planet Can you guess what this is?

20:33 This is some bullcrap about global warming, 97% of all scientists in the world. This is the doomsday clock They are not the same as actions but they matter a lot especially when the risks of accident and miscalculation are so high The first has been the cavalier and reckless language used across the globe especially in the United States during the presidential election and after around nuclear weapons and nuclear threats and the second is a growing disregard of scientific expertise. Expertise that is needed when it comes to responding to pressing global challenges including climate change. The board takes the unprecedented step, the first time in its history moving the clock hand 30 seconds closer to midnight. Today we moved the clock

21:21 Does it ever move the other way? It is now two and a half minutes to midnight. Two and a half minutes to midnight! This is the same bullcrap clock that was going to kill us all if they remember in the 70's during the population bomb, Well no I don't so... Was it the same clock? No it was 8 o'clock, very similar clock. It was at a couple of minutes and it was gonna hit midnight at year 2000 Well, that didn't happen. But it didn't because of Y2K and it jumped back to 1970 should have eight. So the way to get took us back to 1900 to the doomsday clock? That is a if I understand correctly as a project of the atomic scientists, I think because they keep the atomic time is concerned scientists, I think

22:15 It's concerned so look it up concern scientists. We should we should look at that Maybe a concerned Atomic scientist let me see doomsday clock I thought it was the guy the atomic guys It could be a concerned, some concerned group. Is there are concern these people? No is it lots of concerns. Let's see here we go has been maintained by the members of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Science and Security Board. Oh I thought it was Concerned Atomic Scientists. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist Science and Security Board who in turn are advised by the Governing Board and the board of sponsors which includes 18 Nobel laureates

22:58 This is serious guys, man. You can't question that! I have a question. Okay? I just said you can't question that... If there's two and half minutes left what measurements are we dealing with? Two and half minutes already happened Okay, yeah. It's clearly it's you understand what to what's the tune have no? What in what universe is this tune as it is one minute 100 years Is there not a saying its two minutes to midnight that a song I think it has something to do with Cinderella No, it has something to do with hmmm. I know there's an Iron Maiden song of course but two minutes to midnight I thought that was

23:46 Oh here it is. Let's see no that's also just song hmm I thought we'll take it No, Iron Maiden. It's an iron maiden song anyway, but it's saying you know just more of the same Be afraid, be very very afraid. Be afraid! Be very afraid of everything that's happening. Wrap yourself if you can. Although I do have clips...I also spent and i'm very happy uh I spent a little bit of time going through the executive orders the presidential memoranda everything that has been released so far and I've discovered some interesting things

24:25 New things have come to light, man. I'm telling you for reals! But maybe we should start off with the most recent news which kind of just came out of nowhere and it was very evident to me within... hmmm Maybe 16 minutes? You know where these airport demonstrations came from And we also have a producer Dewey from DC who was boots on the ground and went to Dulles Airport and recorded some of the protesters that were there. Oh, yes! And it was quite telling actually This is a point for you I think you will like... Would you like to run through a couple of these? Actually start with the one that is Well let's before we do that Let's get the backgrounders from the big news networks Yes good idea So we have a little bit of this You know kind of you know We kinda get a feeling for the whole thing I got two clubs We can start with Trump's ban on CBS

25:23 Okay, Trump's Wow your your upper lower case was fun today. All right against terrorism he said President Trump's ban was announced on International Holocaust Remembrance Day. Critics online were quick to remember Anne Frank, the young writer who was killed in a concentration camp after the US denied her family of visa to escape Nazi Germany Yeah and it's it's a side note but you know there's a lot of anger about this Holocaust remembrance proclamation because the Jews were not specifically mentioned and that of course is an outrage.

26:03 Well, there's a couple of things that I gotta kick out. The next clip by the way is the fiasco at Kennedy and it will be done with that but i do have to mention something about the uh... about this Anne Frank thing which they've all thrown in as a meme yeah There are two interesting things I saw. By the way all the networks are still using the gold doors every time they show Putin coming into the room. So talk about Anne Frank and they said she would have been a rich that they refuse her entry She could have she would have lived and become a great writer right now today. She'd be 79 This was doing this who is saying this democracy now, geez They're going on as you would have been a great writer And she's been 79 if she was allowed in the United States Now there's again we have the duopoly here the two ways of looking at this one This is terrible

26:54 This woman could have been a great writer and we're obviously by keeping these refugees out, uh... We are- We're hurting literally. We're losing a lot of good writers! Yeah where you were- Even for the sitcoms we've got to bring them in The other one, which the way I looked at it says oh that was the Roosevelt a Democrat administration if i'm not mistaken that kept Anne Frank and killed her. Oh you could take it from both sides. Wait tell me about the Roosevelt administration what did they do to Anne Frank? They refused her entry in the United States when they applied for a visa! They tried to sneak, yes that's what Anne Franklin was all about. Anne Franklin documented that she tried to get in the United States and the United States government, Franklin Roosevelt's Democratic Party said no! We don't want any extra Jews over here but they don't really make that a big point. No Jews for you? Really? Yeah! Oh what a dick

27:49 Yeah, totally. Oh man! So Anne Frank became kind of a meme but only the one side of the meme shows up in mainstream media and that side is the side that oh you know it was terrible what they did then now Trump's doing the same thing rather than looking at it fully objectively saying it was Roosevelt and the Democrats are just as guilty if not more so its Anne Frank after all Well yeah the accusation You didn't mention the Jews specifically, therefore you're an anti-Semite. And then the response from what I understand from the Trump administration was well they didn't just kill Jews they killed gypsies and gays as we want to be inclusive. We want to be inclusive in our death notice! Thank God...I mean come on

28:33 You can expect this. All right, here we go This is the fiasco at Kennedy and CBS again. All right Fiasco at Le Kennedy's. These were detained New York Congressman Jerry Nadler says all had valid visas and were aboard flights when the executive order was signed More now from Kenneth Craig a Kennedy Airport And as you can see opponents quickly organized here at JFK Airport in New York Protests erupted as federal authorities scrambled to figure out how to enforce the ban Supporters that JFK cheered as one of the two men detained overnight was released Iraqi Hamid Khaled Darwish has a special immigrant visa. Thanks to his work for the US government I support the US government from the other side over the wall

29:20 But when I came here they said no. And they treat me as a, I break the rules or do something wrong. On Friday President Donald Trump signed an executive order that puts a four month hold on all refugees settling in the US A 90 day ban for visitors from seven Muslim majority nations and a block on all Syrian refugees indefinitely We're going to have a very very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting which we should've had in this country for many years Now, this Darwish guy by the way is a big Trump... I think he works for the White House or something. He's like a Trump guy. They left that part out where it says you know what? No, I like Donald Trump! He's a great guy and they just put they have to be... He was only got out in time for the deadline. Okay well there's a number of things going on here that are troubling one this executive order according to the Federal Register is dated tomorrow January 30th 2017

30:22 So none of this should have happened? I don't believe so, no. And and i'm still not convinced that something actually happened at the airports all we have is uh the instigators of these protests the ACLU which you'll hear in a moment who had a very coordinated campaign before this executive order was published CNN had a copy that's the only copy I have every other All orders about immigration are all dated January 30th for tomorrow and they're also dated that way in the document itself. So I'm not quite sure exactly what happened, but the point was being made people really it's messed up dude! People can't...people with green cards are being stopped at the border and i would like to mention something about that briefly a green card is not

31:14 some kind of full-on license. You're not a citizen, you're not allowed to vote it is permission to stay and work in the United States and you are on probation for the duration of your green card I know because i've had brought two people into the country legally and they're on there you're on probation if you are arrested for certain crimes deportations imminent so yeah you're not allowed to you can't mess up So it's not like you're a citizen. You can't vote, you are welcome to work and stay and pay taxes. That just has to be said up front. Now when you come in with the green card you can get questioned. In fact you probably do get questioned! Just check in see how your doing I've seen this many many times. I think that is what happened with Darwish

32:03 And conversely, I do want to remind everyone that I was barred from traveling to the European Union, the Schengen zone with valid documentation. Which they decided is not valid right now so that's new rules not valid So this is not like some crazy thing that never happens but let's listen to some of the protesters Now here's a note from our producer Dewey from DC It says about 200-250 people at the Dulles Airport protest. Mostly disorganized, but there was at least one small group there with a laptop Facebook chatting They looked organized and they were the ones starting a bunch of chants And he has a couple of these clips There were maybe one or two news crews look kind of like local local news There were a handful of lawyers there in casual suits and name tags that said attorney offering free immigration counsel

32:59 And here is some of the chants that were being organized there by the people with the laptop. We tear it down! We build a wall, we tear it down! There you go. You build a wall? We tear it down... And then we have this one. That is let them in now, right? But here's the one that kind of gives it away.

33:44 There is the ACLU chant. They're just- I never knew there was one! They're just blatant now who is organizing this? The ACLU obviously we have the two lawyers, I have them as well This is the same people who organized Occupy Wall Street And they're using the same stupid crap. Doing the mic check, John! Hello! Hello five years ago. Mic check, mic check... Now why would they do that?

34:40 Other than... They're all the same people. Thank you, a couple more of these protests chants. Welcome to the USA! Not quite sure what the purpose of that one is this one of course an oldie but goody. Love not hate makes America great! That's love Trumps hate make America great and again back to the ACLU. This has got to be the most un-American thing you can ever say, let them see their lawyers no! No who comes up with that?

35:33 Let them see their lawyers. That's a gem! Isn't that beautiful? Let them see their lawyers, he has the attorney name badge another one. The people who have the green card or are permanent residents who have already landed cannot be deported I like the chant, if you have a green card or permanent resident status you cannot be deported. That's not law! Sorry... You can be deported. You can be deported easily. Easily you can be deported and if you're in violation rightfully so but of course Muslims are welcome here

36:21 Now before moving on to any other chants, this is the most troubling part that came out of this as I was scanning through all the channels immediately. Is even though and I think we talked about it one or two shows ago where i was already hearing people saying, well you know it's a seven country ban. I don't think they even knew it was seven countries at the time It's a country ban but that is just a watered down version of a Muslim ban No its not! But here is the representative care

37:08 the Council on Islamic-American Relations and who of course are also a... They're subversive, and they're very closely associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Well they were a front that they they were convicted I think Or implicated as a front group for terrorism, for terrorism financing. But OK. Absolutely. They are now in the lexicon here we go. Joining me now is Zahra Bilo, executive director for the Council on American Islamic Relations, The San Francisco Chapter joins us live from there. Zahra good to have you with us first how do you see the message that Donald Trump is sending with this signing of this executive order? What do you think that message is?

37:47 Thanks so much for having me, Eamon. Honestly the message feels like national security theater They're targeting a number of countries where we haven't seen terrorist attacks happening in the United States connected to those countries and still he pushes forward this rhetoric of this makes America safer In reality what it is is a Muslim ban No! It's not a Muslim ban and I'll tell you why The country with most Muslims in the world is Indonesia There is no ban on Indonesia. Sadly, there's also no ban on Saudi Arabia which I find to be kind of dumb that would have really been a line in the sand say you know what screw you guys too and now even though we're not really supposed to talk about it now oh the actual terrorists who came and brought down the towers are still allowed to come

38:45 A brain freeze you get from it. Of course, this is nothing new in 2011. Any constitutional and that could be where this order gets staked? Well look, this is also not unprecedented by the way I mean Barack Obama put a pause for six months on refugees coming from Iraq back in 2011. I don't remember protesters and I don't remember lawsuits so I think the bigger question if this is a temporary pause which is designed for us to improve and look at our vetting processes, and it indeed temporary. I don't necessarily think that's an outrageous idea but the bigger question should be implementation did you get it right from the start? Okay so there's nothing new but of course we're going to get a different-a new noise about it because it is not President Obama doing this And I do want to point out that having read the executive order It is a completely legal order So I'm not sure why

39:38 why ACLU is claiming it is not, as this order builds on U.S Code 1187 the Visa Waiver Program specifically Section 12a which by name mentions Iraq and Iran that they can be banned at any time or of course any other countries that the Secretary of State or the President deem as necessary. So it's entirely legal, as far as I can tell. Oh man! Are we protecting Trump too much John? You gotta stop me if-if i do that. Bastard. Okay. But... Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

40:33 Is a pause in your clippage and it allows me to interrupt and drop my own clip good because it goes on what? It was all the way. I saw that was a cue And so you're cuing this happened the last two or three shows miss Q as a miscue You're right, Miss Q me and you've been doing it consistently and tell you why guys are bickering your bickering. No we're not bickering well I'll tell you somebody's bisque ing the other guy and that is you know I'll tell you why Because you have stepped up asking me questions. You'll say, what? Can it not be like this? Can it not be like that? But when I do it to you, you take it as a cue to do something else so doesn't matter. No but that's not what you did. You didn't ask me a question. Well you did. I did ask you a question specifically! The last time wait a minute just get in the bickering mode

41:21 The last time you yelled at me for asking you a question that you needed to answer, but it wasn't the question. I made a statement and I made it clear was a statement. Let's hear your clips! And that would be no... No because obviously you have some on a continuation mode which you didn't let me know and finish your continuation mode cause mine is a sidetrack. Let's hear your clips? I have one clip. Okay This is the H-1B visa clip Now this came into the conversation with all this crap in the Silicon Valley whining and whining. And this has been, Silicon Valley has relied on H-1B visas for a long time to get cheap labor from India to replace American workers

42:09 So Trump is gonna do something about that. There's a guy at UC Davis, we've talked about him before I can't think of his name offhand very famous guy has debunked all the H1B arguments it's always about the same thing you bring in some cheap guys from India and you put them into places of Americans and they work cheaper and they're just as good So let's play the H-1B visa story on CBS. Twisted, it's twisted. Rina? Jonathan Vigliotti thank you Well the president's ban on refugees is sending shockwaves to the US tech industry Carter Evans has more on this Are they hiring refugees? I'm sorry? Are they hiring refugees and so it's sending shock waves Yeah of course Shockwaves through the U.S. Tech Industry Carter Evans has more on this

42:58 The president's aggressive immigration agenda has Silicon Valley preparing to take on Mr. Trump and issue H-1B visas. Companies rely on them to recruit top talent from around the world Jessica Levinson is a law professor at Loyola University. The immigration policy, particularly this visa program I think it is very much on the table my guess that will be changed and it is very much up in the air Currently the US grants visas to 85,000 foreign workers a year through a lottery. But a draft of a proposed executive order published in The New York Times this week suggests change is coming. The administration wants to consider ways to make the process for allocating H-1B visas more efficient." How do you think New York Times got ahold of a draft? Is that something that was leaked to them specifically on purpose? What did he think it was about?

43:51 There's two possibilities one they have somebody in the Trump administration is passing these things around I have an idea who it is. Yeah, okay And or it could have been leaked on purpose to see what you would push back to get in advance No, it's not a trial balloon. Okay. The administration wants to consider ways to make the process for allocating H-1B visas more efficient and ensure that beneficiaries of the program are the best and brightest. They will be enforced and enforce strongly Just how the administration would do that is what concerns Mike Grandinetti, Chief Marketing Officer at Reduxio, a digital storage startup. We're looking to recruit at least 10 engineers. Ten? And we can't afford to slow down because continue to stay ahead of the big guys. More than half of the country's startups... Stop, stop!

44:41 This is the best they could do? Ten guys. They had some guy on a screen, a Skype screen and he runs some company no one's ever heard of and he's hiring ten people Is it Jason Calacanis and Angel in that company? Sorry. Yes. I wish I had invested, but I never have. Digital storage startups where we're looking to recruit at least 10 engineers and you know we can't afford to slow down because continue to stay ahead of the big guys. The big guys! More than half for the country's startup companies worth more than a billion dollars were founded by immigrants Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is from South Africa. And two of the world's largest tech companies Microsoft in Google all

45:27 have immigrant CEOs. And Steve Jobs! In a statement Google says it's concerned of feeling now prominent in Silicon Valley hmm They call the CEO of Microsoft an immigrant. What is his name? The Indian guy. But they make it sound as though the guy just came over on a rowboat and he's now running Microsoft because he's a genius! On their face bags, it's all a picture of Steve Jobs like, Steve Jobs is from Syria which isn't true but... No, it's not but he and he was like okay Steve Jobs is Was abandoned by his Syrian father just kicked out of the get out of here That's a kind of people were dealing with is that there? Is that the point you're trying to make now I'm not again. You had two dimensions Oh totally totally But I can tell you though in one dimension if you think h1b visa as a problem none No The real problem is coming up

46:25 One of these Sundays. The effects of the ban have even hit Hollywood, reports say Iranian director Asghar Farhadi a nominee for best foreign language film may not be able to attend the Oscars. Oh! Oh, humanity That Oscar show is gonna be just one big. Oh my god, it's gonna be horrible Tonight we have We have Miss Universe tonight which I have a lot of message oh yeah you are you gonna be on the beat? Well only if I'm sure if it's a request because I thought I retired from this game Yeah, I think I think this is an important time for you to To be brought back in I do one more protest chant for us here.

47:17 I like that. It's funny, but this is again... This is shaming. This is the kind of thing that these people are supposed to not do. It's insulting, shaming its appearances as giving somebody crap about their appearance. Like the Cheeto face, the one that Cheeto face Judd talked about and this whole thing is like dust. It's an embarrassment to the left and the causes that they say that they're so important. I would like, for just a moment, talk about the executive order that discusses The Wall. You know of course there is outrage abound about this wall it's crazy its insane So how do I read the executive order? And the executive orders states very specifically That this order is based on previous existing law

48:11 And that would be the, I would say... the mislabeled Secure Fence Act of 2006. And based upon that law and the initial funding, which I think was underfunded it was about a $1.2 billion to the Congress and this was signed by George W Bush went through you know went through Congress was passed in House Representatives in Senate and President signed off on it and of course this was largely ignored by the administration after that But the executive order does nothing other than say, oh you know this order this Secure Fence Act has not been completed as it has to be so we're going to do this and oh yeah will need more money. I do want to mention specifically The Secure Fence Act was probably written with that title To make it sound

49:06 You know, softer because the act itself does not speak of offense or you know with a fence I get like Tom Sawyer Huck Finn visions of whitewashing the fence. Painting the fence no a physical barrier is the terminology The Secure Fence Act of 2006, the goal is to help secure America's borders to decrease illegal entry drug trafficking and security threats by building 700 miles of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border. Additionally, the law authorizes more vehicle barriers checkpoints and lighting as well as authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras satellites and unmanned aerial devices to reinforce infrastructure along the border that is what actually happened with the money

49:54 All of those douchebags with the L3 and all those DHS, the Chertoff group. They took that money and they said oh yeah we have drones and infrared cameras which I am against as a border protection you can have some of it in addition but it's too easy to create windows! That's how the drugs come in Yeah, the cameras will be pointed north by northeast at 1130 You know you have about 15 minutes before they swing around whereas you get some physical people in things change But again from the Trump Protection Department He's using existing law. I see no issue Philosophically a you can have an issue but I see no issue certainly not From a legal standpoint at all what?

50:44 Yes, and but let's that don't take it from me because I don't know what I'm talking about Let's listen to people who apparently know much more than I do And that would be the two ACLU lawyers who came out amongst the crowd as heroes to proclaim they had done something We asked the judge to hold everything in place. We believe this executive order is clearly unlawful, but we said to the judges that she may need time to figure that out and block the removal of everyone nationwide who has been caught up in this unlawful executive order She agreed that the government may not send anybody back

51:22 Until she finally rules, everyone now who came is safe. And that is absolutely critical and as Anthony said... Safe! As Anthony said the courts work the way they're supposed to work in our country The president could not override the courts They have to be let go. Everybody has to be let go tonight." We, they don't have to be released from detention we've asked for the names she ordered government give us the names... See they don't have to be sent back they are also not being whoever it is apparently... Not being released from detention he said? Yes that's correct Well what that still good I thought you're supposed to free these people No this is a small victory obviously there's a small small victory

52:14 But again, as he says right they don't even know the names of these people. We don't know if anyone is actually sitting there we really don't know it's just all of a sudden... A day before this is signed officially into law the way I understand how the Federal Register works based upon a draft ACLU was out there with crowds chanting their ACLU safe space occupy Wall Street garbage garbage Yeah, there are. There are probably a few people that do have jobs and they have to work on Monday some well let's continue weekend I know most of them don't let's continue with this that's it that's bigoted to say that but the weekends easier

52:53 The weekend is much easier, but yeah to do that. So yeah better than Monday you're right. We let go tonight? They don't have to be released from detention we have asked for the names she ordered the government to give us the names which is critical because the government has not allowed them to see attorneys. We cannot find everyone they're all over the country once we have the names we will painstakingly go through each one on the list and go to the government and try and get them out of detention while the court process proceeds The critical point tonight is no one can be sent back to one of these countries. It's critical right now. People who've never had a passport cheering

53:31 It's critical that the judge understood irreparable harm that would happen to individuals who return back to their countries. These are individuals who've been granted visas, some of them are green card holders They're lawfully here in this country and just because his order was executed yesterday they've been caught in this limbo And so the judge wants to make sure these individuals are not harmed See he says the order was executed yesterday but maybe I'm just wrong about how the Federal Register works If it's signed and supposed to go into effect at a certain date, maybe when they signed it that's executed but doesn't mean it goes into effect. They're lawfully here in this country just because his order was executed yesterday they've been caught in this limbo... And by the way for many years we've known and everybody who is

54:19 It's concerned about your personal security and your personal effects and your rights. We've been through this several times when you arrive at the United States border, even if you are a United States citizen before you are let into the country, you have no rights! You have no rights to do anything I don't like it, by the way. I've been blocked at the border so many times and they can search your stuff They could do anything they want you have no right once you step foot on the United States of soil You should be a beer in the country as far as I'm concerned until you go through the gate officially. You're not on US soil That's the same with an embassy. No that's what did it? I don't like it either I think is I think it's un-american but

55:03 But that is just what's been happening and you've got to take that up with the Obama administration, Department of Homeland Security who started doing that. They granted visas some of them are green card holders they're lawfully here in this country and just because his order was executed... You're lawfully here but you're on probation. ... yesterday they have been caught in this limbo And so the judge wants to make sure that these individuals are not harmed, that they stay on American soil. That the government is forced to walk through an argument of whether or not they get to stay and it's a remarkable moment because clearly this is an enormous setback for President Trump's executive order." Oh! That's the number one thing that's important

55:42 It's not if he what I expect him to say is this is clearly a victory for people who are being persecuted unfairly Instead he says this is clearly a victory against that orange do an enormous setback as the yeah Yeah, well um yeah said back so they're preoccupied. That's what their target is they don't care about these people Thank you only care about Trump. That's correct. That's exactly it. That's why it's top of mind And it's a remarkable moment because clearly this is an enormous setback for President Trump's executive order. We already have the federal judge issuing a stay, a hold on that executive order for individuals who already are in American soil It's the first day that we get to fight back and make sure we can use the courts To ensure immigrants' rights in this country Okay Immigrants' rights I don't think are being violated yet I'm not a lawyer Here is Democratic Representative Adam Smith

56:36 And he has, well he's also trying to propagate this as being a Muslim ban only. A Muslim ban which I'm sorry it is not But you understand Congressman why a lot of Americans believe extreme vetting of refugees coming into the United States will protect them? Um i think in large part its because people aren't aware of the vetting process that already exists and again they're not aware apparently of the fact that we have not had terrorist attacks from refugees I think that may be a stretch. We don't have that many refugees in the country yet. They've had them in Germany, they had a terrorist attacks on refugees. In France they've had terrorist attacks and refugees more or less but Germany for sure... My understanding is there have been I've seen two numbers 18 or 25 thousand people who under existing rules have been stopped who were deemed to be terrorists coming into be up to no good

57:38 But for him to say no refugees, hmm. But certainly the wife of Omar Mateen though not a refugee she was certainly here as a guest on a waiver and by the way this is an aside Poland cannot get visas to the United States Are they not one of our strongest allies? Do we not have, you know 5,000 troops now in Poland. Do we have tanks in Poland? Poland is not a part of the visa waiver program. Poland does not allow them to just come into the United States." Well there's a bunch of conspiracy theories about why that is...

58:20 Adam Smith. They're aware of the vetting process that already exists and again, they're not aware apparently of the fact that we have not had terrorist attacks from refugees. Gosh you think about all the shootings that have gone on in the US most of them have been committed by US citizens so we have a strong vetting process in place already So the outright ban again sends that anti-Muslim message I don't think it's going to be helpful for US interests It's not an anti-Muslim bill. Nowhere does it mention Muslim in the memorandum, nor does it mention that anywhere in the bill that the memorandum is based on Well now there are a number of pieces of fallout I don't know if you have anything else because I'm going to go to Sanctuary Cities for a moment only have one clip If you have anything for that

59:18 I do have it's while you're looking. It's the sanctuary cities is all a part of the same executive order Oh, I didn't know that's interesting once you go on with that and then oh Yeah, we got her yeah. Yeah okay so the sanctuary cities The way they work. I'm gonna try and paraphrase as much as possible in Austin We've had a lot of clips about this. I think we know well You know people are very forgetful The sanctuary cities are cities that have decided they will not tell the federal immigration officials, ICE about any illegal as the law says illegal alien. That's what the law states still about any infraction they have occurred I believe unless it is you know murder so they will not... I think murders at the point where they might even though in San Francisco

1:00:18 Not so sure. Well, New York is also interesting Mayor Bill de Blasio was defending New York as a sanctuary city and the counter to this the administration has said look if you're not going to follow federal law and I think this falls under nullification If you're not going to follow that, if you're just gonna pick and choose and you're not gonna choose these. That's fine. Clearly the federal government cannot force the state what to do in this regard but they can turn off funding This is the old gambit that the conservatives have always complained about with the education system, which is that once you get in bed with the feds... Once you get in bed with the feds. You end up being at their mercy and this is a trap that has to do with states' rights versus the feds'. Yes. And San Francisco, all these cities are all in bed and they get all this money for roads and it's just a bunch of tax money stolen from the public and then given back.

1:01:17 is what it amounts to. So, what do you think would be the cutoff? The type of crime that would be a cutoff for Bill de Blasio specifically... To tell the feds about an illegal alien or not What crime- what are the lower crimes I can think of a bunch Rape should be reported I think armed robbery burglary Along those, there was most of these kind of middle-sized felonies for sure. Not a parking ticket. Well let's see what the mayor of New York says. The new sanctuary city law that you approved in October 2014 the City of New York shields from the feds undocumented immigrants who commit what are deemed to be lesser offenses but they include drunk driving and grand larceny why shouldn't the City of New York comply with federal law in this area

1:02:15 If you're a drunk driver and you're an undocumented immigrant, why should there be a place for you in this country? Jake there are 170 offenses in that law that are listed as serious and violent crimes that lead to automatic cooperation between the City of New York and our federal partners. So any serious and violent crime we're going to work with them someone commits a minor offense. For example, right now if you didn't have clear definitions like we have let's say someone has small amount of marijuana let's say someone went through a stop sign they could be deported for that and their family could be torn apart, and you could have children left behind where the breadwinner in a family is sent back to home country. That is not good for anyone so we differentiate...anyone who's violent or serious threat to society, we agree will work with the federal partners

1:03:06 and they get deported. But we are not going to see, with half a million undocumented people here this would be true for 11-12 million undocumented folks in this country the vast majority of whom are law abiding We're not gonna see families torn apart over a very minor offense Is grand larceny or drunk driving a very minor offense? Drunk driving that does not lead to any other negative outcome I could define as that Wow! I don't think i'm okay with that Drunk driving?! As long as you don't kill anybody, it's okay. This is new." Yeah that's a tough one he should probably drop the... That argument should probably be pushed down a little bit more yeah I but it just shows you the thinking uh as long didn't kill anybody now they're driving drunk I mean hey you know they finally got some alcohol in them! They're enjoying America

1:04:03 Yeah, you know I have mixed feelings about all of this because they will take that same argument in some other venue and then use it differently. It's just liberal wishy-washiness is kind of annoying. The real worry of course is the dairy industry who apparently use a lot of illegal workers and the articles I'm reading say well... You better get ready to pay more for that ice cream! Get ready to pay more for that frozen yogurt you like so much. Yeah, this is the kind of bulk... You know it reminds me when I was taking my tour of Holland with Jan Eelman who took me up the whole country and got to see everything including that obscure Van Gogh museum out in the middle of nowhere where most of the paintings are a giant chicken truck went by. A giant truck with chicken some sort of Dutch chicken

1:05:04 And I said, yeah, you see all these trucks they make a lot of chicken here. He says yes he says the Dutch have the most advanced automated chicken facilities in the world because we've got no Mexicans He said So we had to automate what? He says, We had to automate because we couldn't get anyone to work in these chicken factories and now we have this outrageously modern Chicken facility that is just all robots. I guess that's great Oh yeah It's all indoor you don't see anything same with the cows the other you know The hay goes in the front and chicken and chicken and cows come out the back You don't know what's going on in there very secretive very very secretive

1:05:46 Then I have one more piece of research that I want to share and then we should go on. Thanks some of our executive and associate producers, associate executive producers regarding repeal and replace a big lot of comments certainly from people who are accusatory of the program say well you know there is no replacement for the repeal there is no Obamacare replacement for the repeal And I think that we already discussed that Rand Paul, who is a doctor who is a part of the committee making the replace legislation released at least his plan which is Senate Act 222. And I found something incredibly interesting in this proposed legislation but first let me get run through some of the highlights what I'm seeing a lot of

1:06:45 is making it easy for health saving accounts, which I don't know if you remember but I had one of those through Mevio. I think it was like $2,000 and the way it worked then is you get a credit card which goes through your company because you can only do it through a company couldn't do it privately that's going to change. That no I'm telling you that's in the legislation it is being proposed, okay? No i am just saying you could always do it privately until Obamacare came along. Oh I'm sorry yes excellent point and there's another and that where the gotcha is what I found thank you so all of that has been turned back now will be up to my problems were

1:07:27 You know, everything...every single payment you made for anything you had to prove. You had to send in receipts. You had to scan them. You had the email. Like the poor doctors have to do now for everything when they show up? Yeah I think that doctors do even more and they would reject things and really the only thing you're getting from it which is not to be discounted is that money is tax-free. So it's $2,000 right off the top because there are no taxes being paid on it. It's like an IRA. The proposal is a tax credit up to $5,000 per HSA but also removes the maximal allowable annual contribution

1:08:07 So individuals may make unlimited contributions to their health savings account. Removes the HSA plan type requirement to allow individuals with types of insurance to establish and use the HSA so it won't will no longer be restricted the way it was also will allow for prescription and OTC drugs which was not always allowed you will also be allowed to use that tax-free money to pay for your insurance premium this is huge that has never been there There will also be bankruptcy protection to the full extent of the law, which is not 100%, as previously under Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act. Which I read... By the way this is why I'm doing this. I read that whole thing we knew what to expect more or less

1:08:57 Under the Affordable Care Act, where is it here? I was talking and then I... Oh yeah. If you go bankrupt then your HSA account could be seized under the replacement as proposed while some states have passed laws that exempt HSA funds from being seized in bankruptcy there's no federal protection for HSA funds in bankruptcy but the government going to try to protect you as much as possible The Federal Government will try to protect you from that It would also allow periodic fees paid to medical practitioners for access to medical care, can be used for prepaid physician fees, direct practice concierge medicine. Really anything there was no really restrictions have just been lifted

1:09:42 Now, a couple of the things in Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act were touted as the big marketing message. And this is the one that I didn't realize and it kind of blew me away when I learned and that is... Well, The three main selling points of the Affordable Care Act were 20 million people who don't have health care will now get health care, which is not healthcare but at least they have healthcare insurance. This is now going to change to be an expansion of Medicaid under the proposed plan which makes sense so that states can then deal with that as they want

1:10:31 But the two other selling points were your kids can stay on your plan until they're 26, which I always thought was just additional money. I never thought that oh thank you so much! Thank you, thank you! Thanks Obama Because, you know, you got kids who are out of the house at 21. They probably won't really have health insurance for the first five or six years because the jobs they're getting, the places they work in may not offer it so I think it's... It behooves the insurance companies to at least have some money cause being on your parents plan doesn't mean its free

1:11:07 You're just on your parents' plan and it could be $500 a month extra. So to me, that was always like, yeah okay great so the insurance companies want to get that group that's kind of hanging out there before we suck them into our system The third was pre-existing conditions. Now, this is still touted certainly on the face bag as the most important piece of the Affordable Care Act legislation. This is not a cue I'm asking you do you think that's true? Was that a big piece of it like a revolutionary act?" Yeah! It was the main thing they were...that's what all the protests are always about because those are the sob stories. That's how you sell the thing

1:11:48 Well, oh you know I got had breast cancer. No, let's say some condition MS Yeah, I have MS and I need all this help And I need medication and then I got bounced from my insurance company So they find another one and the new one wouldn't pay for any of this because it's a pre-existing Condition right? And these stories were always used to there were good stories They're accurate then I think it's true. And so we're gonna have a big giant fund Because everyone supposed to be all gooey in what's all being on this deal. There is more than enough leftover money, just look at the profits of the insurance companies to pay for these poor people that have these situations and we should help them very socialistic by the way." Well very similar to what you pointed out that the Affordable Care Act removed a lot of these great benefits of the health system

1:12:39 savings account, which was clearly done to behoove the insurance companies. Hell yeah! Let's not make that easy for them we don't want people paying their own way we want them on the scam well as a part of the replace I did not know this when the Affordable Care Act came into existence the pre-existing conditions protection replaced a 17-year law under HIPAA known as the HIPAA preexisting condition protection which guaranteed those within a group market could contain continuous health coverage regardless of preexisting conditions. So I didn't know this

1:11:48 Well, oh you know I got had breast cancer. No, let's say some condition MS Yeah, I have MS and I need all this help And I need medication and then I got bounced from my insurance company So they find another one and the new one wouldn't pay for any of this because it's a pre-existing Condition right? And these stories were always used to there were good stories They're accurate then I think it's true. And so we're gonna have a big giant fund Because everyone supposed to be all gooey in what's all being on this deal. There is more than enough leftover money, just look at the profits of the insurance companies to pay for these poor people that have these situations and we should help them very socialistic by the way." Well very similar to what you pointed out that the Affordable Care Act removed a lot of these great benefits of the health system

1:12:39 savings account, which was clearly done to behoove the insurance companies. Hell yeah! Let's not make that easy for them we don't want people paying their own way we want them on the scam well as a part of the replace I did not know this when the Affordable Care Act came into existence the pre-existing conditions protection replaced a 17-year law under HIPAA known as the HIPAA preexisting condition protection which guaranteed those within a group market could contain continuous health coverage regardless of preexisting conditions. So I didn't know this

1:13:26 But you had pre-existing conditions protection. What's the definition of a health market? Ah, a group market means anything but private so if you are part of a group health insurance plan through a company or AARP or you could even be the ham radio club any group market coverage used to have, and this was what Rand Paul is proposing in S222 restores HIPAA pre-existing conditions protections. Prior to Obamacare HIPAA guaranteed those within the group market could obtain continuous health coverage regardless of pre existing conditions it was always there! It may be implementation issues here... In what way? In what manner

1:14:15 It's like, well yeah but this group came in after the HIPAA thing was passed. These guys are always looking for the out especially the insurance companies. No doubt they were looking for an out. Made another rhyme but I'm a little pissed off about that. Rhyming today? Yeah That's pretty outrageous But they made it look like, ah ha! We've done something beyond never heard of before. You have cancer you get health insurance. It was always like that. Well apparently it wasn't for everyone. I don't know that

1:14:55 Well, I don't know it either but they didn't give it to people. Let's put it that way. I don't know that either John! I'm sorry all I heard is a bunch of people... When you hear a million people come out moaning and groaning about how they got on the news crying about how they did insurance company It's the same privileged people who are... This is about privileged people thinking that everyone else is getting screwed And believing that, and we have to... I'm like completely on board with this. We will find out a lot about HIPAA because we have a lot of people in the field who understand this and what I would like to know is what are the big differences between the HIPAA pre-existing conditions protection and the Affordable Care Act existing, uh, pre-existing conditions protection? That's what i'd like to know! So to wrap it up though, to skip that part

1:15:52 Is this a good, did you look this over? You thought it was a good idea. You think Rand Paul's onto something and maybe this would be the good replacement to be better than Obamacare because the fear according to everything I've heard all these people talking and yakking about it is that it will end up still costing more. Somehow the insurance companies will still scam the public and they, so they're reluctant to jump on board with anything because they have, they have to study it to death. Okay here's my conclusion. It's not... I have been marked up actually in the show notes 899.noagendanotes.com A couple of things that are done here as I said increasing state flexibility for Medicaid

1:16:32 That is the idea for poor people, which Medicaid is. Medicaid is intended for poor people. They will also be instituting flexibility to conduct Medicaid waivers That is, you know regarding poor people that's all I see. So is that really better? I don't know it depends on how much you make available and what the states do with that money. Um...I do like the self-insurance protections uh you will now be allowed to have a stop loss insurance as an employer

1:17:09 which is interesting. You couldn't have that previously and the way it doesn't even mean, okay? Okay. So what you do is you have a small company, you'd be up 10 people I'm going to provide you with some health insurance. It'll be uh, yeah, it's really on the business owner himself. So you can do that. You can say, all right here's what we're going to do for our health insurance plan. It doesn't necessarily have to be an insurance company but you only do that along with a stop loss insurance which means if you get hit by something like some multiple cancer person in your company and it's a huge bill then you could have certain almost disaster insurance I guess. That wasn't allowed under the Affordable Care Act so its pushing back

1:17:55 responsibility, accountability back onto the people and the way they want to make it cheaper of course is by removing all of the interstate commerce between for insurance companies between states. They're obviously trying to break up this monopoly which I think is what needs to be done now will this result immediately in lower cost and we'll shake out no I think that takes a while before you get them before a market understands How is any of this gonna save any money if the thing is a collusive arrangement between the insurance companies and the drug companies so they can rack up the price of the drugs and the insurance companies then pay them more money, and then take a bigger... So they become a bigger company because they have to charge bigger premiums to pay for these drug companies. And they still only... Well we only make 2% profit. I mean this scam to me has always been that collusion. It's got nothing to do with anything else.

1:18:52 That I don't think is addressed. It doesn't address anything as far as i'm concerned How would you propose addressing that? Medicare for everyone. Medicare or Medicaid? Medicaid is not It has nothing to do with Medicare. Right? So what is Medicaid for poor people, right? And it's a it's something of a scam if you really look into it Medicaid they still they take your property and they try to make you pay anyway. Medicare is the American way man what's your problem? Medicare is socialized medicine for people over 65. Ah okay right

1:19:39 And everybody likes it and people will vote their representatives out of office if they take it away. And the Democrats like to ridicule the right, the right wingers because all the old retirees who are Republicans always say you do anything you want but don't touch my Social Security or my Medicare and those are two socialized systems and the Democrats like to point and laugh at saying oh those Republicans are a bunch of hypocrites They don't want this, they don't want that But here when they have it, they like it Well, we'll see what happens. I personally was surprised about the HIPAA pre-existing condition protection. Yeah that's what we need clarification because that was really you know such a huge selling point just like the HSA accounts they were just swapping things in and out

1:20:27 So we'll see what else comes. Of course there will be amendments and all kinds of things will be happening. I'm happy though, there's one thing I like about this administration they're publishing their publishing the publishing to getting stuff out and I can read it is also maybe it's just a could be my imagination feels like the language used is not quite as lawyer-y as it typically is or that it was for the past eight years. There's much more simple language there's not I mean, wow man. Some of these Obama executive orders that'd be references to 15 different pieces of legislation you have to find each individual paragraph. It seems to me a lot easier here and there's also preamble which seems a little more conversational good for me because guess what? I'm not a lawyer. I'm just the guy who reads and Googles a lot according to... Well let's play this last clip before we skip to the end.

1:21:20 This is Brooks on day and Brooks and Shields are on the PBS. It's just become annoying, it's my number one annoyance because they're supposed to have these two guys that are arguing about stuff that are supposed to be from different perspectives but But both are from the exact same kind of Democrat, globalist New World Order agenda. Brooks is supposed to be the Republican and Shields was supposed to be the Democrat but Brooks is a Trump hater it makes no sense they should get rid of him he's makes plenty of money at The New York Times He doesn't need to be doing this gig and he's beside himself doing this gig And now unlike these other guys who say that Trump is lazy Brooks says the guy's doing too much work and he's a maniac and he shouldn't be shot

1:22:03 The smallness of his preoccupation about the size of the crowd, which he keeps returning to in a rather bizarre fashion. How do you see this first week David? We were here a week ago together and it feels like a century and I wonder over the course of his presidency can he keep up this pace of news and busy-ness and conflict without just exhausting everybody and I will say among business people have spoken to, among political class, and among Republicans on the Hill just a great sense of being unnerved. Unnerved at the instability. Partly he's done what he said as Mark said, he's undermined the post-war international order pretty quickly

1:22:47 Tearing down TPP was a bill that I think economists say would have produced hundreds of millions billions of dollars of earnings every year for America. Play the bullshit, Cliff! Picking a fight with their second biggest export market? Very unnerving But then I think the two other things, I'd say is the general sense of chaos and incompetence in how you do it. Okay? You want to pick a fight with Mexico Do you have to do it by tweet? Do you have put forward a proposal that would have Americans paying for the wall and then sort of withdraw it And then sorta not withdraw it? Do it in a way maximally designed to polarize Mexican opinion against the United States

1:23:22 And then the final thing is I wonder, I'm left wondering how much of this is real. Okay he signs a series of papers that Steve Bannon and others wrote for him but who's going to implement it? Does it make any sense we saw that with the Syrian ban in the discussion early on in the program How much of it is the government just gonna let him sign papers and then it just goes along their merry way. Bullshit! Now this guy's note is just horrible Let me mention one thing that we have to put back on the, because people seem to be ignoring this. Trump... Nobody wanted the TPP, the Democrats or the Republicans it was so bad on the Democrat side that Hillary had to change her mind. She had to say I don't like it yeah and she was all for it she thought was one of the best things ever which he harped on. So the TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership

1:24:10 How come all of a sudden guys like Brooks say, well I would have brought billions and billions of dollars to Americans somehow. This is a secret agreement we have to remember this no one has seen this agreement It hasn't been published. Well, the people who are writing it have seen it. You read some of it but stuff about all the way that the sovereignty of the country being violated by corporate corporations and the rest of it where corporations have a bigger role in the world than countries do and all the rest of it there's no economist who has actually seen the entire document to say that is going to bring money or nothing. It could bring zip into the country for all we know right

1:24:52 It's crazy to put that on his, to throw that at Trump as a bad thing when everybody on both parties thought it was something he had to discard and he discarded it. And now it's bad according to Brooks? Yeah of course! How does that work? When Hillary thought it was bad too Because those guys are the true Trump derangement syndrome people You heard this one huh It's annoying. Ah, it is very annoying. Meanwhile and then we'll get into our break since you brought up Mexico former president of Mexico Vicente Fox he did have something to say about Trump This is the former guy? He hates Trump! He hates white people No no please please don't say that

1:25:41 Because that's Trump style. We're not paying for that wall, now now, not ever. But let me say yes we are being harmed. We don't like that by why a US CEO sitting on the presidential chair? A white U S C E O sitting on the presidential chair. There you go. Look at me this is good call out for that obvious racism Because the people who are talking to him are all on board with white guilt, whites privilege, white old dudes. They're all on board with it! We are them we are... White men are more hated than Donald Trump Well according to some people white women are getting in that same they're getting in that same position last clip that I have All right This is Joy Reid at the DNC where you know

1:26:38 They have this meeting of all these people. You can have other clips, I'm sure there's not the one you have. They have all these people they all want to be the head of the DNC and it's called Dem in Color Meeting. They do not want Whitey! The Democrat Party is actually going Kind of become a minority just only Latinos and blacks and Chinese. White Democrats are going to be in our camp pretty soon Yes with white old white guys, yeah Okay well let's play this and you'll hear a good example This is actually beautiful so there is a blowback of epic proportions from the very same people who brought you who brought you white privilege These people are now being ousted because of their white privilege

1:27:28 That's fantastic. America! Sticks in my reliance on statistics, I'm going to come back to even more statistics because i do love a number and the reality is that sounds really good and you all sound very ecumenical and I think that's important but... Ecumenical? Hmm what does this word mean? Ecumenical They're all they're all it's kind of it's a term that refers to a bunch of people with different opinions slightly different opinions but they're all kind of in larger agreement Sounds really good, and you all sound very ecumenical. And I think that's important but we also know that racially polarized voting is the reality in the United States and it's just a fact right? And that Democrats have invested heavily in trying to win over and the Clinton campaign invested heavily in trying to win over particularly white college educated women they invested their resources there um...and my question which

1:28:22 of you very skillfully evaded was whether they made a mistake in not devoting more resources. I'll come to those who didn't answer that directly, but I'm going to come back Sally again because the question is whether or not the DNC, DCCC DSCC and the Clinton campaign were in error in devoting so many television commercials to our kids are watching, not enough television commercials to African American radio as Keith Ellison said. So many resources trying to win over white voters in Arizona and poach additional Republican voters based on Donald Trump's poor standing among Americans and not enough in GOTV in Cleveland whether or not that was an error

1:29:16 I definitely think that the way that those resources were targeted didn't work. We didn't win the election at the end of the day. Oh, thank goodness we haven't ended it yet! Now she's the one who says they gotta tell Whitey to shut up...that woman there is at the end. Never in all these conversations and then I'm done. Do they ever say, you know maybe we had a flawed candidate? No of course not. Why would we say that it's everyone's fault except the candidate our party us are and we couldn't have done it wrong is because of hate Now it's the white college-educated women who voted mostly for Trump Yeah That are like why will just ditch them cuz they're no good We should've gotten more black votes out

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1:41:55 I was watching a C-SPAN and they had one of those little meetings that I love when they have them. There's one of these kind of think tank organizations, and they have these experts up there. And just usually a bunch of professionals in there asking him questions back and forth on it. I just thought this was interesting because it just confirmed everything we said on this show and something that mainstream media refused to even discuss Which is the IC report, the intelligence community report on the Russian hacking with the one disclaimer in there. The NSA saying they had moderate confidence This is a guy who's an old CIA guy who used to be head of Russia Okay it's Robert David Steele

1:42:41 It is George Beebe. Great, I have another old CIA guy perfect. Okay well let's listen to George Beebe who was a very erudite guy and he knows the ropes on how things should be done and uses the word...I guess we didn't use when did exact same analysis which is red flag and this is George on The IC Report Thank you. Thank you, Committee Member. And thank you for those excellent presentations. My question is for George Beebe and it pushes a little further on the area that Karen... I'm sorry John what is the setting of this? This is a speech or...? No no no this is one of those closed meetings. Oh so this was something that wasn't supposed to get out? Is this uh...? No no it was supposed to get out but who sees it? Yeah I gotcha

1:43:30 and DeYoung brought up, but also takes us back to Graham Ellison's excellent question which is still on the floor. And questions about the dossier and all of that. I wanted to ask you to give us your judgment as an intelligence professional how this statement by the intelligence community is with all of the caveats you put in but also all of the warnings you put in, all of the criticism you've put in? How could this have happened Well, I really don't know the answer to that. The simplest explanation is they have some very conclusive classified evidence which has driven their judgments. That's the easiest thing to do. I'm a little skeptical that that's the case. Why is that? A couple of things. One in the intelligence community report itself

1:44:25 There's an interesting caveat that NSA had only moderate confidence in one of the report significant judgments That's a red flag And then the thing the National Security Agency, yes the National Security Agency That suggests to me that the kind of evidence that they've got in the classified world is not all that conclusive So then that's number one. The second thing is Given the political atmosphere that we're experiencing now in Washington, which I think Paul has very accurately described and the degree to which we're able to keep these sorts of things secret genuinely in that atmosphere.

1:45:08 I'm suspicious that if we really had that kind of evidence in the classified world, that we would know that either directly or indirectly in-in the public domain. So... Mm hmm. ...I suspect that we really don't have that kind of conclusive evidence in-in the classified world. So now how did we end up with a report that we wound up with? A lot of potential explanations um you know as mentioned earlier the cognitive bias tendencies that we all share That, that might explain a lot of all of this. The pressures that can occur bureaucratically and organizationally, the time deadlines that are underway, the separation of sets of expertise within the community — all of that may have had a role to play in all of this but I'm speculating. Wait! There's political stuff going on in the intelligence community?

1:46:00 You don't say. I would have never guessed it. That's impossible! Now if you want to go to yours or you want to play, he also has some thoughts on the dossier... No no so let's hear the do-you mean the uh the dossier of the bedwetting dossier? The bedwetting guy yeah. Yes the dossier. I thought i got a reprieve there from Senator Roberts but apparently not Um, on the dossier I think there are a couple of questions here. One is how do you actually vet something like this? Hard thing to do CIA would typically approach this by looking at the sourcing and subsourcing very critically it's impossible to do really in this case

1:46:44 Um, the next case would be looking for facts that are reported in this that you can verify. You know was so and so in a particular place at a certain time? That's verifiable. It only gets you so far though in really investigating the veracity of the claims and-in this alleged report which I have not actually seen by the way. There is uh, a couple of things that make me skeptical about the information that's One, the target, you know the source of some of these claims is supposedly the Russian presidential administration. That is a very hard intelligence target

1:47:28 Intelligence organizations around the world devote themselves to trying to penetrate that target. Very, very hard to do so we're led to believe that a private individual running a security firm hired to dig up dirt is able to penetrate that hard target using his own sources maybe so I'm skeptical second thing to note here Moscow, for anybody that's been there is good at nothing beyond generating lots and lots of rumors. And a lot of these rumors are generated precisely because the people in these closed circles of decision making are not very transparent about what's going on. In the absence of hard information, people tend to gossip a lot about what's going on. Really easy to tap into that gossip network. Now the question is gee am I getting rumor or am I getting solid information here?

1:48:29 You know, we have no basis for judging but I suspect the most likely explanation here is somebody that tapped into the very active Moscow rumor mill and circulated what's out there on. Hmm there you have it well Teresa May weighed in the other day about the dossier and specifically about Chris Steele before was mi5 or mi6? Mi6 guy. Do you know, it's a long-standing position that we don't comment on such matters but I think

1:49:04 what, from everything that you will have seen it is absolutely clear that the individual who produced this dossier has not worked for the UK government for years. Oh okay so back off! Back off we got nothing to do with that I had a...I found another former CIA agent This would be um...former case officer Robert David Steele he was an RT i have to say that because of course its RT and ya know You play clips from RT you know what you are Is he? The other guy's name is Steel. Are they related? I don't believe so, interesting but i've seen this guy around before

1:49:47 I think he does show up on RT a number of times, but he had the different take on Trump's election. Different take on the so-called hacking what really happened and sums it up neatly here. So Trump has a chance to reset everything. He talked about how the system is rigged. It's not just campaign finance reform its paper ballots one of the reasons Trump won by accident was because Hillary Clinton started talking about the Russians too soon and it led to the closure of the electronic vote tampering that she used against Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton, it's on record Stanford University has studied this and documented it Hillary Clinton stole 13 primaries from Bernie Sanders using electronic ballot tampering The Russians did not hack the election Hillary Clinton hacked the election and lost because that door was closed at the very end That sounds very reasonable to me Wow! That is clip o' the day Thank you

1:50:45 Now this brings us back. I actually kind of buy into that a little bit, because of the New York ballots especially the one in Erie where they were all of a sudden it was Brooklyn i think and the whole number of precincts got no votes coming in at all and then we're all gonna go to Bernie and no you get nothing zip! Bernie made a little fuss But he didn't make a big fuss. And some news guys picked it up and talked about it a little bit, made a little fuss but they didn't make a big fuss and then we just went on... I think that's a very funny an ironic conclusion that this is the highest of all sorts of humor. And even if it wasn't meant to be funny

1:51:36 It fits perfectly. Yeah, she blew it! She started yapping about the Russians too early and then they had to- they couldn't do their own voter fraud which of course has got to be rampant. Has gotta be we're America that's what we do. Well especially with those electronic machines yeah well we've complained about that a lot all right here he is um oh yes another interesting point he made check it out Trump is a wild card Trump is a businessman. Trump already understands that, for example we're paying too much for Boeing and Lockheed and Northrop Grumman He's coming at this with a fresh perspective he did not expect to win

1:52:17 He has replaced the political elites with business and military elites. We've had a counter coup in the United States, we have successfully defeated the coup that was being led by Wall Street and Hillary Clinton and John Brennan so it's up to Trump my personal feeling is that if Trump does not pass an electoral reform act in the next 90 days he he will not finish his term. He will leave. Why is that? What does the Electoral Reform Act do and why is it so important to his presidency? The Electoral Reform Act does a number of things, but one of the most important is that it frees the members from the bribery and blackmail

1:52:56 that is pervasive in US politics. Wayne Madsen is one of my favorite investigative journalists and he published recently a piece on how John McCain and Lindsey Graham have been blackmailed by CIA, and that is why they've been so anti-Russia Now, because of Wayne's piece and because of some other things that I and a few others have done Trump has gone back to McCain. McCain is now being if you will counter blackmailed And so he's softening and he saying well now i'm leaning toward Rex Tillerson Which is exactly what he better do if he wants to finish his term out I think Trump has the capacity to free the members from their dependency on foreign money, particularly Saudi Arabian and Israeli and Wall Street money. Beyond that he has to show the Sandinistas, the libertarians and the independents that they have a president who really means it." I like the term Sandinista's as I hadn't heard about what it is.

1:53:54 I looked at the Voter Reform Act of 2016, could not parse from it what he is saying about... Well, and I don't know if it's in this next clip but the general idea is that was really only 47% percent of the eligible voting public who voted at all. And of that you know I guess 24% went to Hillary. You know, it was all very small margins and somehow with this act and again I read it And I just couldn't parse it to his words How that would then free everyone you know will basically break up the the two-party system quote unquote two party system

1:54:35 I'm not sure how that would work if someone out there far smarter than us can maybe help us. I don't see how it could do anything. But, I did like what he said because that is a call back to John Kerry that if he doesn't get that done then he'll be gone before his term's up so I don't know but there's something brewing in that area Well, let's also play the same topic. Gay-Ann on the threats to Trump which are getting a little disturbing. Hold on one second. If Gay-Ann is coming in we gotta roll our hands at Gay-Anne! Right everybody, Gay-Anne Chichicón she is hard, fast and reporter We love her here on The Noah Tremblay Show Let's hear what she has to say I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House But I know

1:55:22 that this won't change anything. Rioters smashed windows and set things on fire, but with some the anger took a more morbid turn death wishes for Trump started pouring in social media director of a news site publicly expressed his hope for the president to die soon A schoolteacher was filmed in her classroom mockingly shooting President Donald Trump as a live feed was projected of his inauguration ceremony The Secret Service is probing a woman in Kentucky who tweeted a call for someone to assassinate the president. Some may consider a death wish to the president, a form of protest others don't It's being owned by people boldface names in them in the news and celebrities who normally would not ever say something like this so it's I think clearly a reflection on the highly polarized

1:56:12 state of the United States at this point. Regardless of one's position on Trump's policies, there is something very wrong about people publicizing their desire for the president to die especially considering that US has a history of leaders assassinations in Washington I'm Ganesh Chakyan, RT. Yeah my memory is not the best in the world but I do recall after President Obama was inaugurated police were saying That they would rough you up if you said anything negative about the president. When Reagan got elected, he was shot within probably the first six months of his candidacy. And those Dutch douchebags on the face bag? The ones who were here on O-1 visas and tourist visas and they had their little club... Of course by osmosis I get sucked into their face bag feed and I don't say anything about it because i want to read it During the inauguration do you know what they were posting

1:57:09 Hey, where's that sniper? Oh God. Yeah and they're here as visitors you know on visa dicks You're gonna be bumped now! You're done I'm done Do they listen to the show? Please Final clip from this former CIA case officer, Robert David Steele. He's going to deconstruct the three hacks that are really in play here in this entire scenario. The DNC was never properly investigated they wouldn't allow the FBI to get to their computers and In fact the FBI was simply given second-hand information from CrowdStrike and others who are anti Russian

1:57:52 technocrats that are in the pockets of Hillary Clinton and the neoconservatives. So it was never proven, and in fact Donald Trump to his credit called Julian Assange and said tell me my face tell me directly and Julian Assange repeated to Donald Trump The Russians did not give us this stuff now Podesta? The FBI and CIA are asking us to believe that a Romanian taxi driver using antiquated equipment, who has had some modest success against celebrities. Perhaps he's after you next is being run by Russian national intelligence that's absolutely absurd in fact the man was in jail here and in Virginia

1:58:29 Now, I didn't think that was true. I always thought it was true, but you always said it wasn't. I thought it wasn't but he's saying... He actually says there is some confusion about it so he says that it IS the same person. And by the way people get confused. Guccifer 2.0 and Guccifer are the same person okay? If you look that up its not completely clear So the third big leak was the Anthony Weiner laptop

1:59:09 that had allegedly 650,000 emails from Huma Abedin. She was introduced to Hillary Clinton as a very young girl. Hillary Clinton fell in love with her and has been with Hillary Clinton ever since Those emails although the FBI sequestered that computer very quickly they were enough to make the New York Police Department very angry Because they had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton sending classified information back to IP addresses in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton with pay-to-play, I mean Hillary Clinton sold Syria and Yemen to Saudi Arabia And John Brennan has been her executive agent for

1:59:52 for essentially doing regime change in Syria and further destabilizing Yemen. I mean, really Brennan should be in an international court under indictment for being a war criminal." Yeah we kind of forget about the Wiener stuff that's that kind of drifted off the radar didn't it? Yeah because it was sequestered as he says yeah you know they like to keep this stuff in abeyance well you know if we need it we use it when we need it You know how people always talk a little bit differently when they're on a podcast Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone. We played a couple clips and he was, what was that? It was Canadian television I think. Canadia CBC. And yeah when you're overseas you could also say what you want because nobody can hear it. Yeah but it wasn't quite as...it's just the different, it's almost a different tune what he's saying now. He was kind of cagey like well we don't exactly have all the information but ehhhhh

2:00:43 And actually this wasn't a podcast, worse than a podcast. He shows up on Sirius XM. Worse than a podcast? Of course it's worse than the podcast! Sirius XM, worse than a podcast?! That's your bumper sticker right there I've been very skeptical about this publicly No not that skeptical Mr. Taibbi Said from the beginning that i don't believe...that i dont think we should just openly believe the assessments of people in the intelligence community and I'm willing to believe the idea that they were behind the hack of

2:01:19 the DNC. There's some evidence for that, I've talked to people who are cyber experts but even they really are only making a circumstantial case about the probable origin of where that is coming from Trump himself has said he believed it was Russia But the rest of it you know this idea there was a Manchurian candidate story and they had a collusive agreement Like, you know I think that's... That stuff is all for me totally out to lunch and you know that dossier like that came out. Having lived in Russia like since when is the Kremlin like a high school cafeteria where you can overhear what everybody's saying? They were on much tighter ship than that if they actually had something like that it would keep it a lot closer to their vest. I wish he would write like that! That would be so honest of him

2:02:08 One short... David Maguire, he's a liberal. He was a little... You can't do anything that even remotely says anything positive that could be interpreted by the other side of the divide of the polarized globalist versus nationalist agendas He can't do it. He loses audience well, he's trying they talk to the actual people who investigated the hacks You know I don't know but I mean they add up these signatures They do seems they do seem To be not unlike actual physical evidence and that they have a DNA They have an imprint And they know that where their there are their internet protocols are and then they see this signatures that are similar

2:02:52 And certainly sure, but it's a little bit like the standard approved internet protocol address. That's why I wanted you to hear this clip. I thought that was so funny. I loved it. It was back for another great all right And then they see the signatures that are similar and certainly sure. But it's a little bit like, like the standard of proof for that. Did I miss it? I must have missed it. Yeah, it's back further Add up these signatures they do seems they do seem to be not unlike actual physical evidence and that they have a DNA they have an imprint and they know where their Internet protocols are. Have you hugged your internet protocol today?

2:03:44 Yeah, he doesn't know what it was a signature. No I love that interest that are similar and certainly sure but it's it's a little bit like Like the standard of proof for for that is that you have a series of indications? That lead to a conclusion And yeah You still have to make a qualitative assessment at the end of all those things in any edits its Again, it's just not as strong as a whistleblower saying I was in on it. I did this You know what? I'm saying like you're like there are different levels of proof Wow Okay, this is I guess just like there's different levels of facts Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it mm-hmm The little I know you saw this the loyalty test meme is spreading as predicted The if you talk about this on the last show yes And you said that you didn't see that happening

2:04:40 No, I still haven't seen it happening. Okay here's the BBC. Some sometimes children do this he's testing their loyalty because the crowd was obviously much smaller than it then it was That's so by sending Sean out. He's testing his loyalty He is and that's how you hold the power then if you make somebody lie, then you hold power over them What that's the meme like children she did add that there's a new bit I like it I like it your means Oh If you if you force people to go out in life for you You have control over them

2:05:26 Yeah, that's all it takes. Has anyone ever heard the Sean guy? The guy is a maniac! He is pretty high energy I like it though. It makes me laugh. I got the biggest kick out of the Nikki Haley situation Yeah, now so she's going to be the ambassador to the United Nations Yes and she...I don't think she was a Trump supporter at first but she sounds sure sounds like the right mentality for it But none of the mainstream media because everybody likes her and she is also woman So you can say anything too bad No But you can't overdo it, because she's a woman. And so she comes out with this crazy comment that I thought was hilarious! The President's ambassador to the UN put every nation on notice today Nikki Haley said the US wants value for its UN commitments and she chose these words as her first greeting in her new post

2:06:26 And the way that we'll show value is to show our strength, show our voice. Have the backs of our allies and make sure that our allies have our back as well for those who don't have our back or taking names we will make points to respond accordingly. Ambassador Nikki Haley. Whoa! She's taking names and kicking ass is what going down? Yeah, I thought that was fantastic. So apparently the idea what i understand is uh the U.S will cut back its funding of the United Nations by...I've heard 40 percent Well here's the defunding clip Oh hold on a second Defunding yes! I've been wanting to hear this Uh Andres The UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon pretty much said that Saudi Arabia had pressured him to remove them from a human rights report No you got the wrong one I'm sorry it says defunding

2:07:18 The UN. Oh, I'm sorry yes there's two you're right my mistake Donald Trump's administration is reportedly drawing up an executive order to significantly reduce America's funding for the United Nations and also other international organizations the White House is said to be seeking an overall 40% cut in funding Trump has previously been extremely critical of the U.N The UN has such tremendous potential, not living up to its potential. There is such tremendous potential but it is not living up... When you see the United Nations solving problems they don't cause problems so if it lives up to the potential that's a great thing and if doesn't then it's a waste of time and money Now Trump this is an example of Trump in his tripling

2:08:03 of say something, United Nations has tremendous potential. The United Nations has tremendous potential. Yes, tremendous third time and it's like he does this on some trying to make a point or brainwash us I'm not absolutely sure... Whenever you say something three times that's when people remember it such as Optima tax relief They do that's an example all the time. I want to make a hundred cars for kids That was for you know it did the commercial like this Did you know that you can? You know pay off your credit card don't pay the full amount optima optimum tax relief, that's right optimum attacks relief You can get that at optimal tax relief boom optimum attacks relief and they do a jingle which is genius right after that That's why it works

2:08:51 Well he does, just that some... He learned it in some sales seminar. He should do a jingle after that! He should do a jingle. He has a little jingle machine. He has a little pocket dealer you can play with. But I think this is, and i think he makes a good point. They cause more trouble than they you know like the douchebag thing that happened in Haiti well there's also... That they wouldn't take credit for There's also some thinking now that this is a concerted effort to bankrupt Germany who currently are at about one percent of their GDP and to move it up to two percent GDP which is the requirement for NATO United Nations You know? That could be a serious financial issue

2:09:32 But that's just another way of looking at it. It's interesting though... I want to say something about the First Amendment Defense Act, which is now in play again and i bring this up well of course i've been looking all the legislation stuff that's floating around that have people freaking out And the LGBTQIAAP community is freaking out about the First Amendment Defense Act and headlines such as, sweeping bill will institutionalize discrimination against LGBT.

2:10:10 And I wanted to discuss briefly, and I think that I'm going to need your help. What discrimination laws there are currently in the United States and how it fits in with this or not? And the first really a question I have for you... The Civil Rights Act, I think I remember you telling me that was never signed or ratified? No, the Equal Rights Amendment. Oh, the Equal Rights Amendment. Okay What is different from the Equal Rights Amendment versus the Civil Rights Act? Is that what is the... Well, the Civil Rights Act was about blacks and the Equal Rights Amendment was about women. Okay. What is...? Okay let's go to the Civil Rights Act then which was signed that's good what exactly did that outlaw or forbid because I what I found is different than I thought it was

2:11:07 And I'll just tell you. I think segregation was one of the issues that it was targeted, I think segregation was targeted specifically and i think it was about the schools mostly. Ah! The school is actually there was no legislation for schools as I've read that in the bill um there was a recommendation and requirement request but there was no legal basis to desegregate schools, although of course that did happen luckily. But it was mainly about businesses involved in interstate commerce and I'm not quite sure how that's a part of it but that means hotels restaurants public places where people go and I liken this a lot to the... Schools would be included? Public schools could be included yes not private or public

2:11:55 That also, it's very analogous to the American with Disabilities Act where now you know that a hospital or a restaurant has to adhere to the ADA because they serve everybody. And you may not discriminate anyone from staying in a hotel or eating at a restaurant or I think movie theaters... places where the public goes this does not adhere towards private businesses that are not part of interstate commerce. So let's just take an example, um, an ice cream parlor... oh! Let's take a better example. A wedding cake shop

2:12:36 absolutely has the right, it's not nice but it is no violation of the Civil Rights Act to say uh no I don't want to serve you. You can also say No shoes, no shirt, no service We reserve the right to not serve anybody This says almost on every establishment they have this sign And the First Amendment Defense Act somehow has been misconstrued into this now-you-can discriminate against gays Whereas, you are absolutely allowed to refuse service to anybody if you do not fall under the guise of interstate commerce public place where public people come in and do things. The First Amendment Defense Act doesn't want... It really does want... Public people also known as the public. The public yes

2:13:24 I'll just read this briefly. The First Amendment Defense Act prohibits the federal government from taking discriminatory action against a person on the basis that such person believes or acts in accordance with religious belief or moral conviction that 1.) Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman, or 2. Sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage. And it defines discriminatory action as any federal government action to discriminate against the person with such beliefs or convictions, such as altering the federal tax treatment Disallowing a deduction of any charitable contribution. Withhold, reduce exclude terminate otherwise deny any federal grant. Withhold, reduce exclude terminate otherwise deny any benefit under a federal benefit program." So what is being said here is if you and it doesn't fit on this has to be...if it does not fit under the Civil Rights Act You have the right to do that and the government may not penalize you for it Now people may not like this

2:14:26 that they can be discriminated against, but anybody can be. Black people, brown people yellow people old white people and it's coming will be asked to leave establishments because we're not going to serve you and that is okay and you have that right to do that there is no such thing in the United States where you cannot discriminate in a private business And people are freaking out about it and being told something untrue Then now, oh you can just discriminate against gays. Well you know what? No! You cannot be kicked out of a restaurant. You cannot be kicked out of a hotel anything that is where the public goes... already under existing law but now the only thing that's been stipulated here which is really a jerk-off thing as far as I'm concerned Oh okay so then the IRS can't penalize you

2:15:13 Well, I think this came about from the IRS debacle. Of course it did! And that's all it really is. Yes but you'll see its being shouted around as gays are going to die in America. To me its an eye roller. I'm out and in the trenches John. Let's go to the women's march

2:15:50 That took place the women's life March, and this was which this was the pro-life. This is a pro-life when it took place mm-hmm This is the play that the intro clip This is women's life march because there's little piece of information here that I didn't realize I'm sorry to be in a right that you did do I think I never knew this. This was the 44th March for Life, but it held special significance for tens of thousands of anti-abortion activists with the coming of a Republican president in Congress. I'm here for the unborn! This year is even more different we're making history Many arrived in groups from churches and schools after long bus rides President Trump began their day with a tweet saying to all of you marching you have my full support

2:16:40 And at a rally before the march, a sitting vice president addressed the annual gathering for the first time. Because of all of you... That guy's got the voice of a politician! Now they had a bunch of women bitching about that fact that they weren't even allowed to show up at the Women's March because they were pro-life and I guess pro life women aren't women And so that was an interesting complaint. But the only reason it's got any coverage at all is because of the Trump meeting with David Muir, which was this interview that was done on ABC. And here's what's interesting about that and then Trump bitched about this. And that's why I was caught off guard when he said it is the 44th of these marches like 44? I never heard of it!

2:17:24 But now they put it up because Trump actually made a fuss with David Muir. He says, they never cover it and so all the networks covered it because I think because Trump complained which is interesting in itself but the thing about that David Muir interview which was on ABC and there's nothing to clip from as far you may have something I didn't find interesting was that this These things are usually all exclusive. Oh, we got a copyrighted story in the front of The New York Times usually where you when you see a news is a little tip. You don't see it as much as used to but when he used to see a front page story about some breaking news thing and it says copyrighted on the head or say it's a copyrighted

2:18:04 Mm-hmm in the story or somewhere say copyrighted by you who the writer is that they put it in different ways But says copyright, that's the message to the other newspapers. You can't steal right? Right, right The David Muir interview, which ran on ABC was simultaneously seen on CBS PBS and probably NBC even though it wasn't monitoring NBC. At the same time it was running on ABC as if it was a we got the interview now let's pass it around which is to me very you know It's almost I would say illegal. It's like they're colluding

2:18:42 They don't even care that they have the exclusives. The idea is to do some trap questions, and there we go! And you send out copies to everybody and they all run it." I just thought that was...I personally found it very offensive. Do you think that was some kind of deal? Like under a pool deal or something? Yeah, well, I think it was an unwritten agreement that if we're gonna do this interview because trump who can aid finds that a bc which is says in the leaner report to this kind of soft and soft as of the networks for him and so he will do a b so dead david mirrors kinda soft interviewers not hard ass needs seems pleasant so he does it but they set them up and then next thing you know i was on all the networks i find that there'd be very disconcerting it means that the network's are in our inclusion including sure i don't

2:19:32 Now just like go on, there was a thing. There was a woman that came up on PBS about and she came out of this pro-life march which I never heard of in my life even though it's happened 44 times and they try to trap her too but she goes right into...I guess she understood that this could happen and she had it figured out because it was like It was trying to be a trap question and then she kind of disarmed it in such a way that it became very awkward for the interviewer. It's very interesting, this is Marjorie Danensfelder who was one of the leaders I think one of the leaders of this march. It's interesting. For overturning it in a day? I think it's more likely that we'll see modest proposals that are enacted into the law and then slowly the will of people will be enacted into the law as well.

2:20:21 You know, many people are still parsing the recent election and the outcome. And I have to ask you even personally—I saw a letter from January 2016 in which a number of anti-abortion leaders wrote a letter saying anybody but Donald Trump. And there was a quote in there that said as women we are disgusted by Mr. Trump's treatment of individuals, women in particular. I was the author of that letter. I know, that's why i'm asking you about it. That's why i'm saying good question! Yes, I was the author of that letter he was our last choice because of the reasons that were stated in that letter He was our last choice and then until...He was our first choice and Why was he our first choice? He WAS because we were comparing two

2:21:04 people with fatal character flaws in our opinion at that point. We thought that we weren't sure before that who we could trust, but there was no question that when we compared Hillary Clinton her treatment of the women that went through a husband's life and Trump and how...and the concerns that we had about the outrageous things that he said, we were voting on policy in the end. And policy must rule the day when you have a choice like that and for us he was far greater committed pro-life and is turning out to be the far better choice because he is following through on the commitments. And become the person that we hope that he would be. Excuse me, I just want to ask you one more question briefly if you could? Just thinking again about the causes and factors behind the election how much do you think abortion was a factor in the end of Donald Trump's victory

2:21:52 It was the biggest factor in any election, that abortion was a major factor. He believes that we know that we saw the numbers of voters that we brought to the polls and battleground states it was number one googled item The day before the election people's on their minds and we brought those votes to the battle ground states for a win And and he knows that in so does Mike Pence. Marjorie Denon-Felzer, thank you very much to take credit This is Tempest in a teapot this whole thing It's bullcrap but yeah That was nonsense But the thing that was interesting to me was said she tried to do a setup Yeah, and she says I saw this would make this point. I Saw a letter. Yeah, he knew damn well She wrote it He should have said

2:22:40 You wrote a letter and then go into that. That means she's not trying to trap her Well, he says I saw a letter and then starts quoting from it He's trying to get her say well that's terrible there are you or you wrote it right sort of a thing? I found it disreputable presuming as away Yeah, well, it's what is it PBS yeah, that's PBS. Go figure. I'm finally Finally I got some information And I love it when we get it from our producers firsthand out of DC. Got some information about the inauguration crowd! Oh God... Yeah, no you'll like it. It's good

2:23:17 Hey Adam, first things first. This is a firsthand report I'm leaving out of few details and I cannot share what agency I work for please do not mention my name if you use it on the show." And I verified this person so i know what agency he works for onto the story there was a meeting two days ago that involved White House staff including Kellyanne Conway senior Secret Service officials senior security personnel from the Smithsonian Institute senior security personnel from National Park Service plus a few others The purpose of this meeting was to determine why the inauguration crowd was so small and to explain it to the White House. I think you would say Trump! The answer is very simple, in previous years the security checkpoints and magnetometers were not on the mall they were only on the parade route large portions of the mall remained basically open which allowed the crowds to move about more freely

2:24:08 The inaugural planning committee this year insisted on making this change and it is the general consensus that this change combined with a total lack of confidence in DC Metro Rail to keep up with demand. They have had a terrible rash of safety and maintenance issues over the last 18 months, plus the forecast for rain was enough to keep people away. Apparently that wasn't enough for the White House though because now all agencies with cameras on them all are being asked to provide a variety of data over a 12-hour period I would estimate that a combined 3,000 man-hours will be dedicated to this fiasco when it's all over with. With an average hourly rate of $45, that's $135 in taxpayer dollars pissed away on essentially nothing." And then went back and asked him specifically...

2:24:52 Do you think, I said are the numbers there? Was it a huge bigly crowd and he says no. The interpretation of the photos based on crowd density has been accepted by everyone except the president it appears. I believe that is why all agencies were asked to review video from areas that may have not been shown from the monument long shots. The whole thing is stupid hopefully he lets it die after this because I do not see the numbers changing so I'm taking this...I'll take this as fact from our producer first It's really the first report that I think is credible because he's looking at the information. Yeah, I'm sure it sounds right? Yeah! I think the whole thing is something of a tempest in a teapot. I don't know why Trump...what the point is maybe just to test. Well maybe...I have no idea. Well so that's the question. Why?!

2:25:49 So I'm starting to go to the camp of, man are you a fucking moron? Stop it. Do you just want to prove the media wrong? You need to choose a different topic. Your not going to win this one. But I understand how you looked out and saw that it looked really full...I get it. Now I am just happy we have people who can do these things." The underwhelmed nature of your response is always heartening Well, it's just okay. I mean this is what I thought before the report was given... Yeah but I was not so sure and now I'm sure so I am coming over to your side now. I think the bigger stories if he had some insight into why Trump is so preoccupied with this specific one thing and why has a say in it? It can be only one thing! It has to be ego

2:26:52 You know what, it doesn't necessarily have to be ego. It could be he's fooling himself Yeah, well that's yeah of course. That could be a Mandela effect this is it and this has Mandela effect written all over it Oh God! Alright finally a quick short The whole show that we do has Mandela effect written over A quick few shorties here before we get to into our donation segment Longtime producer I work as a production manager for an event space in Midtown Manhattan This specializes in high-end corporate fundraisers galas and investor meetings

2:27:30 While we were freeing up some space on one of our audio recorders, I found the recording for an event for the NRDC. That is the National Resources Defense Council This event featured Hollywood comedians right the day after the election Nevertheless there was not a lot of comedy during the event but i was able to go through The two-hour event and find the best ISO's If you do use them please I'd like to remain anonymous I got a couple of ISO's here from that private event I'm all ears. George Lopez! Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't like immigrants, but then stop marrying them. Actually that joke's old he does he done that joke before? Who is Hassan Minhaj? Do we know Hassan Minaj?

2:28:17 No, I don't know. He's a comedian? Apparently he is a comedian. Here's what blows my mind we're here in New York right we're in the little liberal bubble like we do not understand who's actually voting for Trump We don't know what's going on in Montana and we shouldn't but... Seth Meyers That's good! Yeah Seth Myers two jokes from him And I shook his crib until he woke up and said WE GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE! I dunno if you were talking about Trump or his own kid Another one from Seth Meyers. So I tried to find a positive and I said when you wake up tomorrow this nation will for the first time have a president who was a steak salesman Nah, not cutting it now. I'm telling you that two guys are funnier Yeah John has his stuff mostly written forms on an audience right no stuff there Well John Oliver has the final one so you can do it You can fight facts

2:29:06 That's actually more an end of show ISO, I think. Yeah, we should keep that well that's how sad they were they could not come up with a single funny line apparently. I think the stop marrying immigrants is a good one. Lopez yeah... Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't like immigrants but then stop marrying them! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Now we do have a few people to thank for show 899. A few. 899, 899 starting with Donald Borosky in Spokane Valley Washington 1 2 3 4 5 he has a uh he was the unfortunate I think he's got it could be wrong but i think you got kicked out of the federation oh no isn't he's not writing on his stationery

2:30:02 Oh, well we need to get the skinny on that. I don't know whatever the case is he's now writing apparently he's quit the Federation of Planets and now is working for HP. It's a different federation altogether! No, he's not reading... Note that HP started as an electronic test and measurement company it split off this business in 1998 which became Agilent Technologies okay John and Adam, thanks for the continuing excellent analysis of the reaction to the Donald Trump presidency. It's interesting to note how alert the mainstream media has now become after eight years of slumber during Obama stay in the White House. Yeah no kidding! Contrast this is a new agenda which has been and continues to be on the ball with regards to the news of the day Cheers! Okay that's right thank you we are on the ball Tom Thomas

2:30:51 Shannoni I guess it is. Shannon? Shannon, Shannon. I would say Shannony. It could be... It's spelled with an S that got it wrong on here. It's SCA. Shannon. Thank you for the great analysis and unique media deconstructions refreshing to get a regular reminder that I am fact- I am not in fact insane! Something I've noticed that hasn't gotten any airtime at the right-wing press. Why hasn't anyone gone after the person at NBC who leaked the grab them by the pussy audio? No one is saying that NBC meddled in the election by releasing it. Well, that's a good point. Good point and no one is calling for the FBI to investigate

2:31:32 But, is what the person at NBC and what the Russians did substantially different? Both leaked inflammatory but authentic information about our presidential candidates. I'm gonna give him... Both meddled and hacked the election! I'm giving him a point for that thank you. Alright, I am too. Could there be any other motives for doing this other than the left covering for itself or am i wrong in these two instances are actually different? I'm interested to hear your takes on it No, I think it's exactly the same you nailed it Yeah dynamite We should have actually pissed at myself for dropping we dropped the ball. Yeah, thank you for alerting us Okay onward to and by the way he is a came in 120 dollars and 17 cents from Chicago anonymous 113 33 Kevin Kelly 101 dollars and one cent and Michael hints 97 41 Ralph Massaro in Kirkland Washington

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2:37:57 CBS has decided to do a kind of... I think this is gonna last not very long, but it could go on for awhile. A fact-check section of the show. Oh! It's actually called the Fact Check Section? No, but that's what it is. They're rolling out a Trump statement and they're saying what really is. They only had two on this particular one. But let me give you an example how... It's a soft launch of the segment then. Let me give you an example something like that. You know, dozens and dozens of protesters have crowded my hallway and then you say no it was 19 people and call me a liar because it's not dozens yeah or dozens and dozens which imply more than a dozen. So I'm a liar now? Yes huge liar! And you've proven it yes proven BAM nailed it

2:38:56 So you have to now be very specific when you say anything. So when Trump says millions of millions, they can prove it's not true and so this is a big deal. Okay! Now here's CBS cherry-picking Facts. Okay, in the news conference that we wondered about Mr Trump said that the United States is losing quote millions and millions of jobs to Mexico Well our research department found this most recent survey ending in 2010 estimated that at most 682 thousand jobs have been lost since the North American free trade agreement began in 1994

2:39:36 Mr. Trump also said the US loses in trade to every single country, but for the record the U.S has a trade surplus with most countries 132 a deficit with 102 fact-check false Okay, now there was one little... The trade deficit thing. I mean we'd have to look at the you can see it's not we don't have one with the big traders We don't have one with Mexico You don't have one with China or you know? We don't we have a deficit but that's beside the point There's 130 little bitty countries as Samoa I'm sure we make 10 bucks a year But that's beside the point there was a little gotcha in there

2:40:19 I don't know if you caught it or not. But it was like them kind of fudging to say the least and by the way 682,000 if Trump had said thousands and thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands he'd have been okay in this segment but he said millions instead which is wrong. Well there's still a gotcha in here that indicates CBS could be full of crap. He should have said millions and millions of jobs saved or created and then it would've been okay Lost or something lost or destroyed? Lost or yeah, I mean the last are never created. That's it lost or never create a store Never yeah exactly now Did you notice the little of the little probably didn't no he didn't he says oh

2:41:06 the numbers about since the creation of NAFTA to 2010. Those numbers are six years old! Oh, hold on... Yeah that's bullcrap And he slipped it in smoothly. Oh damnit I missed it It's just like, what? That's 2010. Those aren't real numbers! The numbers are not that number anymore so why don't you give us the real numbers and actually do some work. Hmm... So anyway I find that this segment is going to be a fiasco Well this falls under the fake news segment on our show I think And one of our producers sent me a recording of that bastion of new media Ira Glass

2:41:50 Ira Glass is a... now what does he do? Does this American Life? He was a big shot at NPR for years. Yeah, doing all sorts of things and I think he went off and started to make money as a podcaster because they weren't gonna pay him enough or something like that. Well it's funny you bring that up Uh, this is a speech he did at the NPR future of uh, it's like an NPR Future Evening or something. And so he and you know people at NPR certainly but um people like the artists here in Austin, you know they love Ira Glasses you know is on the same as the male equivalency of Rachel Maddow. In fact that may be the same person I'm not quite sure because we've never seen him

2:42:35 Um, and he was there to...and this is mainly NPR people. To talk about fake news, fact-based reporting etc., etc.. I thought it was fun and have a couple clips. One way to measure the limited power of fact based reporting came in September when Donald Trump held press conference declaring that number one He had personally concluded that Barack Obama was born in this country And number two The rumor that he was not born in this country Was started by Hillary Clinton Now let's just stop there for a moment If I recall correctly, it was not that Hillary Clinton had started the rumor but that it had started within the Hillary Clinton campaign. Correct! And we have to assume she approved of it? That's the assumption but you can even leave that out

2:43:23 Right off the bat, the question that is about to be asked is not did it start in the Hillary Clinton campaign? But did Hillary Clinton start it so it's kind of a false narrative to start with but this he's going to use this to explain you know The fake news etc. That he was not born in this country was started by Hillary Clinton Second claim, everybody remember was refuted almost in real time on my television forcefully and thoroughly by the excellent and exemplary Jake Tapper. Hold on a second just so you know... Just blow the guy! It was done in almost in real time by the excellent and exemplary my colleague, my friend, my confidante The man I look up to so much Jake Tapper of CNN

2:44:14 Paul Lee's an exemplary Jake Tapper on CNN and by a number of others And then the entire machine of the American mainstream media kicked into gear immediately and for a few days I like that he admits it to machine at least that's kind of cool. Mm-hmm It's a machine that kicked in yes of the American mainstream media kicked into gear immediately and for a few days refuting the lie about Hillary Clinton starting the birther controversy. And then, a couple days after that I went looking for polling numbers on this issue so the only poll that i could find that hit this specific topic in the right time frame was a Monmouth poll uh... likely voters in Florida it showed that after Trump's press conference a couple days after one third now believe that Hillary Clinton started the birther controversy which is really depressing

2:45:00 Sometimes this year, I don't know how you all are feeling but sometimes it feels like as a working journalist on one team that is losing yardage week by week. I want to reach those people like I want to reach that third. Like I want to reach them those people who are not interested in factual information or in fact they actively doubt the factual information presented by those of us who are in the mainstream media and and it's a puzzle." It's interesting how he's calling himself mainstream media Although maybe he's not it's very easy trying to walk a very fine line here I think because he's maybe not on an NPR or you know, he's independent. I don't know what it is. I think he's referring to himself Yeah, I think so

2:45:43 John are you a fact-based person? Think so are you sure because it sounds like yeah, I had a myself to the day and a bunch of facts came out Yeah The answer to that is possibly that there's nothing we can do. So there's this big pause, like there's nothing we can do it's unbelievable. It was a lie to begin with you phony! It's unbelievable for him... First of all he doesn't even know the story or either lying on purpose because the question should not be what did Hillary Clinton started doing in her campaign? That's fact check false right off the top

2:46:48 But then it's like, I don't know. 30% of people who were polled... we could trust those... believed it! I want to reach them! I want to convert them!! This is your conversion therapy right here ladies and gentlemen!!! And he's depressed now and then he says... That just seems like quitter talk. And among the American values that I believe journalists carry every day in their jobs, is that we are not quitters We make the extra phone call, we do the extra interview... We don't shut up ever and um.. I feel like we need to run at this problem He's losing the thread in his speech here when you go like, I dunno

2:47:35 But it's clear journalists are not lazy, John. They're happy to do the extra interview. They're happy to do the extra mile... anything you need. Mmm okay? Now one of our favorite topics! The press has been countering the non-factual statements coming out of the White House and it's been totally wonderful to watch. You rock! I rock. So many moments in the Spicer press conferences just make me feel so proud to be a journalist, to proud to be on the team like just proud of my colleagues who are asking questions like could we just hear how many people are unemployed right now in this country? Like what's the baseline? Mara Lison asked that recently at a press conference if you're saying you're going to add to them jobs what is the unemployment rate right now

2:48:26 Now, this is interesting because clearly... They're very concerned about this. Yeah well the Trump administration is messing it up they're morons! They need to immediately explain how the numbers are calculated when the calculation changed why the U6 numbers have been eliminated from the calculation Why aren't they doing this? This is baffling to me You know the guy who would have been the best president was Ross Perot Ross Perot would go on his little TV things, his little outings and he'd have a little chart in his hand. And a little pointer. A hand-drawn chart to flip over? He said here's what's going on and he'd show these numbers and point this is the sucking sound of NAFTA, you know, he hated that. Yeah. And he had these little charts and he showed people it always made a lot of sense just to watch him explain the charts. Glenn Beck used to do that on Fox all the time. Right. You'd have a chart or he overdid it

2:49:24 He had too many... Paul Adams Well, his charts always ended with Soros. It got a little annoying. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah and he stopped doing that for some reason but–his thing was a little too much but Perot was great at this and I've always wondered why these candidates don't do that more often they try to do it in the House and the Senate because they have a guy there make signs and puts a sign up and sometimes they show a graph but it seems to me that's the way to go cuz you just can't talk to people who can hear you But they always remember what a graph told them. Right? Well, so apparently they're going to do this at least that's what I understand from what Ira Glass is saying here but they should...I mean you're right someone needs to come out there with the pointer explain how it works explain how their numbers are calculated and you need to show exactly when that changed which from what i understand from what you said is kind of when Obama came into office and then the numbers just went screwy

2:50:19 Yeah, they may look rosy. But the thing that's so troubling to me is now in this one speech the bastion of news of NPR Ira Glass not only does he have his facts wrong on the birther meme started in the Hillary Clinton campaign during that fierce battle but he also doesn't understand or has not bothered to investigate how the numbers work And what the actual unemployment is calculated on and what it's not calculated on as people was it three months now? Is after three months. Yeah, you don't have a job You are presumed to be a bum and you've given up I think any well first of all you can take yourself off of that you Don't look okay for work you gave up uh-huh boom your now doesn't count so you're not unemployed you just

2:51:08 I don't know what you are, but you're a zombie. What is the...what do you think the number is? The actual unemployment number? The number according to John Williams, a statistician out of San Francisco who just recently interviewed by Andrew Horowitz The number's around 23 to 24% unemployment. It has been stable for the last five or six years at that number. Did Horowitz ask him about the... This guy is always, this shadow stats guy is always accused of massaging the numbers and doing some kind of trickery? Yeah he talked about that. What was his answer? I think he's kind of massages the numbers, but he does it in a way. He claims that reflects the reality of the situation. He says there's he says you because you can't get some of these numbers anymore So you have to kind of yes and figure them out But he doesn't see claims he doesn't through reverse engineering He says his numbers reflect the actual Situation when you go look at the homeless when you look at people begging for money When you look at these

2:52:07 These encampments, when you look at people that can't get jobs and bitching moaning about it. He says his numbers are on the money. This is the numbers 23 percent final clip from Ira Glass Hold onto your keyboard John I know you're sitting down but hold on to it he is going to tell us about the future of journalism he sees very rosy future for journalism extremely rosy in fact he says that's a boon time for journalists did you realize it's a boon time? Boon Time! I tell ya... Yeah if you want to write for nothing Well, you're close. You're close to his conclusion But yes there is a future of journalism and uh... You will be surprised I'm in the unusual position to be part of journalism that's going through a crazy boom time Where audience revenues are climbing very very quickly And that's podcasting Yay! Millions around the world are consuming long form serious journalism in podcast form John The Future Of Journalism Is Podcasting!

2:53:07 You know, this guy wants to be a...you see this with guys who are taking a look around and say you know I'm gonna starve to death if i stay in this business at where I am now because the money is dried up. And so they all think they can go into podcasting and by saying what he just said By saying that, he hopes to God it's true. Oh and he didn't stop there! 13 million people downloaded every episode of Serial Season 1 It is impossible to calculate downloads without having control over the player You- this is... Just a guesstimate at best 4 million people I think more downloaded every episode of NPR's invisibilia 2.5 million download every episode of this Did he say NPR's imbecilia? What was that what was that show? Showing the ceiling I like that show and PR is in Bacillus more downloaded every episode of NPR's invisibility Oh invisible 5 million download every episode of This American Life and one of our producers Zoe chase I feel these podcasts go places That are really interesting one of our produce now listen to this

2:54:11 Listen to what he said just listen to the words these podcasts go places you never expect they travel They get on planes trains automobiles. They go places You don't expect really interesting one of our producers Zoe Chase was at the inaugural ball One of the inaugural balls last week that for people who create memes and troll on behalf of Donald Trump on social media This is the deporer ball And she was very interested to learn how many, many fans we had there. See? Fans! Nah you just showed your colors there...fans. What's important is fans that they have fans because they want to be popular Yeah That's it John future of podcast versus future journalism and we are leading the charge

2:54:57 We are. We are the future. Unfortunately, nobody's following our lead. Less than 10 minutes to go! Alright everybody that's your 10 minute warning I'm pushing my global warming stuff to Thursday it's that good? All right i have a couple things I can push but I want to get this out of the way This is the report on what's going on in California with Monsanto. And there's a little kind of another one of these gotchas in there, I'm gonna talk to you about it after the reports over The weed killer Roundup can be labeled with a cancer warning at least in California A judge made that ruling today against the agriculture giant Monsanto Here's Omar Villafranca

2:55:41 Roundup is one of the most popular weed killers on the market, used by everyday gardeners and farmers because of its effectiveness. David Annis is with the Texas A&M AgriLife Extension. It's cost effective and it is very effective as far as controlling weeds. Roundup is a commercially sold weed killer manufactured by Monsanto The herbicide's main ingredient is glyphosate, a chemical that is efficient at destroying various types of weeds. They can spray the weeds and then plant right into where they've sprayed But the country's largest agricultural state is considering a new warning label on Roundup California officials want to list glyphosate as a chemical known to possibly cause cancer based on a 2015 decision by the World Health Organization

2:56:27 organization saying it is probably carcinogenic to humans, citing limited evidence. Monsanto is suing California rejecting that their product poses a health risk calling the proposal flawed and baseless and that it violates the Constitution killing weeds is big business last year monsanto reported 3.5 billion dollars in global sales of crop control products which include roundup up. And there's more at stake for Monsanto than just the weed killer, many of the company's genetically modified crops are designed with an immunity to glyphosate. It's becoming one of the more widely used materials on the planet. Now I'm not saying CBS especially The Network is unprofessional... Yeah you are!

2:57:22 But they have, you know there's these things NBC has a book that you can buy the occasion it shows up on the market. It's called the NBC pronunceteer or gives a tear something and it has all the pronunciations of all the words in the world and just tells you how to pronounce them so your news organization at the high level not any local who cares but at the highest level they pronounce all the words are the same So you don't have one guy saying Monsanto and the other guys saying Mon-SANTO. Monsanto. I mean, come on! Is this guy like work for the company? Does he know about this? You're supposed to pronounce the MonSanto one way? Wait... That drives me nuts every time you said mon-sonto. Our jingle's wrong it's wrong! It's wrong we gotta get a new jingle.

2:58:13 It's a problem. I just found it quite annoying. I can imagine! It was also pro-Monsanto thing because they were talking about, here is the report and it was just dubious. Why don't they just say that? Let's get out of here. I want to play one funny clip from our new president. Look at what I've done recently. Ford's moving back, and General Motors is going to be spending massive amounts of money and Fiat Chrysler the head who was a highly respected man Sergio flew all the way from Italy to have... To go to the meeting two days ago They're gonna spend a lot of money in the United States Foxconn 7 billion dollars Foxconnn Alibaba Alibaba who's a great guy by the way All these companies they are all excited

2:59:00 Ali Baba's a great guy. That Ali Baba guy, he's great! Ali Baba is a great guy. Wait before you start the jingle I got one last one... Oh sorry, I'm sorry Zuckerberg douchebag. You didn't hear this one? No, I'm sure i didn't. Hundreds of people in Hawaii say they'll protest against Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg this weekend over his filing of lawsuits to force hundreds of residents including native families off their land in order to make his Hawaiian beachfront property as private as possible Native Hawaiian professor Kapua Spro to the University of Hawaii said quote this is the face of neocolonialism unquote Zuckerberg now says he's reconsidering the lawsuits Hold on a second That's what we need all right

2:59:49 Is there a game I need to watch? Is something happening today?" Well, today is the Pro Bowl which is an exhibition game that takes place the week before the Superbowl nowadays. And it's weird because they have different rules and nobody wants to hurt each other. Oh boy! Then there's the Miss Universe thing which we'll take care of. Looking forward to that... Always nice. Alright everybody, please remember us at Dvorak.org slash na particularly for a big episode 900 900 of them of the best podcast in this universe Hey is the Miss Universe this universe or different universe? It's just it's the best universe I think miss universe will be in the alternate universe don't you think

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3:02:11 We must love one another or die. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. Say, Alibaba who's a great guy by the way... Build the wall! Hands too small! Can't build the wall! Hands too small! So you can do it? You can fight facts?! I'm angry We cannot continue to hide it. Happiness and joy at seeing an American walking through their streets, but they expressed a question they said why is it that the United States its allies in other countries are providing support or providing arms to terrorist groups? I'm a white woman!

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