Exodus of Misery

00:00 Hey, would you like to make 10 bucks? Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. And it's Thursday December 15th 2016 this is your award-winning Gimpo Nation Media Assassination episode 886 This is no agenda Propagating the formula to all state-sponsored media and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in Austin, Tejas. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say men who suggest vegan lettuce only diet just tip off the iceberg. I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah... good Plato?

00:38 Sorry. It was in the veganism, but who knew? Who knew it was popular back then is just crazy. Hey John episode 886 of our little show here the best podcast in the universe two things at the top of the show I had a brilliant idea Oh no we were talking about getting someone to edit a clean version of the show for some radio stations who want to air Yes. I have a better idea, instead of trying to find someone who does that why don't we just ask the producers who are listening on the stream anyway to write down the time codes of questionable content words and then at the end of show send them to me? I'm doing everything anyway how many edits can it be three four and i can do a separate show Five six seven Well that depends how the Tourette's is but you know what im saying in general isn't that much easier way to do it

01:35 I'd rather have someone do it. Why? Well, here's what gonna happen you're going to get a bunch of people sending all these time codes and they're not going to be right. They'll be approximately right Okay, and then you go. Well okay well I don't think that's a bad idea let's put it that way. I just think you know it won't take me much extra time It'll take me maybe 15 minutes and I can spin it off And then is done. I think the way it should be done Is that we did somebody out there who was actually a pro? Who likes to listen to the show would sit there with like an 8 second delay button on himself He'd set it up as he listened to the short used to hitting the button every so ma

02:23 Okay Somehow you're your way. I mean, I think my in my ways cleaner. I think I did all just saying You want my second genius idea? Oh Yeah, I'm on a roll this morning Okay, so Max Keiser just released his interview with me on RT that's oh yeah, that's out now. Yeah, it's pretty good And in it we talked about you know say so myself well, you know me mr.. Humble and No, I'm pleased. I'm pleased with the result not for my performance but pleased for the show, for the promotion of our ideas and the promotion of our producers

03:02 And we were talking about neither of us being verified on Twitter. And then I said, Hey you know that's why licensing is coming. That's why if podcastlicense.com and Max like oh that's a really good idea! And as i was thinking about it like... You know? We could actually do a podcast verification service for real. We could have a little board of people who say who qualifies as a licensed podcast Well, that's funny because I kind of fits in with something else. I've been wanting to do okay There was and you know the old theory about top 10 top 25 media influencers Yes, yes like yeah exactly and we went over the list you had it somewhere We should go over it again on the show think it was wasn't not Vanity Fair who did that no? No, I don't think so wrote a down somewhere

03:48 Whoever know it was media-ite. Oh, media-ite yeah Yeah that was dumb They did this top 25 media influencers and we looked at the list This is after the show I believe And the list was just crap It was the worst There were maybe there was three or four in there that might be influencers, but they just the thing was backwards. It it was these media influencers that are broadcasted... Let's put it this way if you don't have people like Rush Limbaugh on the list then it's not a serious list of media influencers. You may not like Rush Limbaugh but he's definitely an influencer Yeah, especially when you have people on there like Martha Radich. And you have John Oliver... So how do we combine that? I mean, I'm just looking to make money. How do we combine it? Well, this is not a moneymaker but like most of the stuff we do this is just as service that will draw attention to the podcast which eventually will make money. But so there's no fee for becoming licensed?

04:45 Oh, no. There should be for the... I'm talking about my list of 25 not about the licensing. No, I understand but we could basically launch the podcast license in conjunction with that. Yeah there could be a fee why not? All right yeah all right we'll work on it uh but then i might as well start with the two pieces I promised that would cut for you about propaganda and RT from Max Keiser when he and I were at The Seed Man The Seed Man Because you didn't see the whole interview and I wanted to play for you these two little clips with Max Kaiser said some outrageous stuff. I'm all ears Let's go alright so first we're going and again this is we were on Alex Jones show, and max starts telling us about the censorship and actual propaganda in the UK Where off calm now off calm is the regulator of? I think all media do they regulate other things besides just broadcasters

05:47 broadcast me. You're asking the wrong guy, right? Okay but it's a kind of like a cross between our FCC and maybe our FTC and well here's what Max Keiser had to say about how they handle Russia today an information in Gitmo Nation East all news to some degree would have some degree of subjectivity to it, would have some degree of- But these are the people saying kill Donald Trump. News is not pure. It's not a pure comes out- It's all propaganda! Whole cloth and pure news has in many times has errors in it you try to do the best that you can but to say it's fake news this thing we don't want any news We don't want any news. That's right, they're introducing the idea that we want propaganda. We want only propaganda it comes from one source and if you do not report what we say is like Britain where we do most of our shows has become a totalitarian propaganda state where the state is now dictating

04:45 Oh, no. There should be for the... I'm talking about my list of 25 not about the licensing. No, I understand but we could basically launch the podcast license in conjunction with that. Yeah there could be a fee why not? All right yeah all right we'll work on it uh but then i might as well start with the two pieces I promised that would cut for you about propaganda and RT from Max Keiser when he and I were at The Seed Man The Seed Man Because you didn't see the whole interview and I wanted to play for you these two little clips with Max Kaiser said some outrageous stuff. I'm all ears Let's go alright so first we're going and again this is we were on Alex Jones show, and max starts telling us about the censorship and actual propaganda in the UK Where off calm now off calm is the regulator of? I think all media do they regulate other things besides just broadcasters

05:47 broadcast me. You're asking the wrong guy, right? Okay but it's a kind of like a cross between our FCC and maybe our FTC and well here's what Max Keiser had to say about how they handle Russia today an information in Gitmo Nation East all news to some degree would have some degree of subjectivity to it, would have some degree of- But these are the people saying kill Donald Trump. News is not pure. It's not a pure comes out- It's all propaganda! Whole cloth and pure news has in many times has errors in it you try to do the best that you can but to say it's fake news this thing we don't want any news We don't want any news. That's right, they're introducing the idea that we want propaganda. We want only propaganda it comes from one source and if you do not report what we say is like Britain where we do most of our shows has become a totalitarian propaganda state where the state is now dictating

06:36 everything that comes out in any major news source, we're constantly harassed as I was saying yesterday for my offcom the regulator who gets actually into our face and says he gives us scripts. The UK regulator gives us scripts to read on our show and then they accuse us of propaganda. The regulator gives a script center detailing our position on energy companies in the UK. That's state sponsored propaganda, that's right up there with Pol Pot and all of this grew out of denotices. I like how he brings Paul Pott into it for some reason what is he thinking? What i like is the fact that Alex wants to always get his word in or just say crazy stuff

07:19 and he just rides right over it's the it's a super male vitality drops I think. It just makes him like, bah yeah! And Max just... Yeah you're right just keep going National Security oh you can't talk about where nuclear weapons are stored next it's you can't say you're for Brexit or you can't say you're against that you just have no view you can't even imagine Brexit first I'm trying to get in a word edgewise failing six months will give up when those two are battling I mentioned Brexit for six months! You can't say anything negative about the migrant situation. We can't mention Brexit for six months, they threatened to take RT off the air in the UK How about that? Isn't there like a two-week window that you have with voting in the UK and... I don't know No, I think so and RT wouldn't allow or they wouldn't allow RT to talk about Brexit for 6 months

08:07 That was rigged. They were all in on making sure they got past us, that's why they're still not going to follow up But how can anyone claim Russia was involved if RT couldn't even report on it? And that's the kind of restrictions we deal with. There is no free speech in the UK, the UK is pretty high up on the global free speech and by the way they want a law passed here same as England quote if something foreign media while they invited him then you're an American on that international platform everything is global You can't ever make comments about anything domestic. Well, how are you supposed to do the news then? I'm sure you covered the reply here's Adam bringing in a little no agenda lore appeal of The Smith month act yes your show and people need to hear that i think that In the i think was the mid 70s there was A bill an act a law That said the US government may not

08:57 propagandize its citizens. They repealed it three years ago in the National Defense Authorization Act, and the reasoning behind it was well we do so much propaganda on the Internet that is going to eventually flow into the US. So just so we don't get in trouble you might as well just take it off the table and this is only a couple of years- Yeah they said we're gonna put out fake news they said even deceptive stories We do put out Voice Of America they do put out fake news. So they're saying we're fake when they admit their fake and pass the law that they can lie to us. Correct Voice of America is an American propaganda arm for American propaganda, it's it was out you couldn't broadcast voice of America in America due to anti prop anti propaganda laws then they changed the law and now you can broadcast voice of America inside America because our pro-propaganda there is no anti propaganda laws anymore in America as I've not so then more talk blah blah blah more interruption commercial break and then Max Keiser blows the lid off of something that we discussed on our show

09:54 Actually I have the date somewhere, let me see. Tell you when it was because i have clips... It was 2014 March 2014 here we go about Voice of America. I'm sure you covered the repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act on your show and people need to hear that. Let's fast forward my mistake. Broadcast Voice of America in America doing anti propaganda laws Then they changed the law and now you can broadcast Voice of America inside America because they're pro propaganda. There is no anti-propaganda laws anymore in America, as I mentioned to you a while ago when i was doing my show in Paris, I was approached from somebody from Voice America to do an on air hissy fit resignation on RT

10:38 And I wait was this the same time when that other girl? You know it's because we know it's not really voice of America. It's central intelligence agency They were flashing some big money around like you don't get it. I was a stockbroker in the 80s You can't bribe me, you're not one now with that sack of money You've got to come with a truck full of money or go home But he is bribable you know Maybe so how about that Yeah, that's kind of depressing But it was, because we knew that she had been coerced by someone to do this. And while we were under the impression that it was CNN or one of these guys who offered her a job and says hey, it'd be even better if you... No no there would not have been on the air It was someone from there was I recall correctly enough to go back and look it up. It was someone maybe involved with Politico where there was one guy who remember he was tweeting before she said make sure your watch he was retweeting her saying make sure your watch

11:38 It wasn't Voice of America, but this is blatantly that she was...that she took the money. Yeah, we tried to find out they probably don't I don't get the impression. They pay a lot at our well No not an RT But sir, I don't think it voice of America either We tried to kind of get that amount out of max home but he is bribe able you know The budget of Voice of America does not wouldn't wouldn't take me to the place? I would need to go to undermine my own show You freaking losers get out of my face We're such cheapskates. I can't believe it. I know, they've only offered me 10 million to sell out and i'm like listen... John what are we doing wrong? Ten million! What are we doing wrong?! Yeah they only offered us seven

12:26 Here is the epic moment that Liz Wall quit on air at RT. This is the moment we're talking about, March 2014. Last night RT made international headlines and one of our anchors went on the record and said Russian intervention in Crimea is wrong And indeed as a reporter on this network I face many ethical and moral challenges especially me personally Especially taking money from Voice Of America Coming from a family whose grandparents, my grandparents came here as refugees during the Hungarian revolution ironically to escape the Soviet forces. I have family on the opposite side on my mother's side that sees the daily grind of poverty and i'm very lucky to have grown up here

13:15 In the United States, I'm the daughter of a veteran. My partner is a physician at a military base where he sees every day... She's ramping up she's about to blow it blow the lid off The first-hand accounts of the ultimate prices that people pay for For this country here comes and that is why personally I cannot be part of network funded by the Russian government That whitewashes the actions of Putin. I'm proud to be an American and believe in disseminating The truth, and that is why after this newscast? I'm resigning who in yeah had I saw that who in

13:56 Putin. You know we've been talking about... She should have fired her because she can't even say Putin! That's a sackable offense in my book. And then of course she went on her little tour and went to the View, short clip. Well in light of current events I could see how the network was being used as a propaganda machine who promote Putin's foreign policy. So that's what kind of... Yes yes right now right now and everybody is saying two years but it's like you know In an abusive relationship and the woman finally leaves, you blame her for getting in the relationship in the first place? In this country if a journalist disagrees with the administration they just get hired at Fox News. But you know what John she's back! Liz Wall is back on track

14:42 I just want to stop before you go that far, which is the RT network. Which I have a bunch of clips from today because it's some pretty good stuff on Aleppo because they are the only ones who have a correspondent over there but they host The Tom Hartman Show And if anybody has an anti-Trump, anti-Russia perspective it's Tom Hartman. Her argument does not hold water that is the problem. And he has Professor Cohen on him I heard Cohen on the other day on The Thumbs Show. Yeah totally. Correct! Anyway Liz Wall reappeared

15:19 On CNN on the CNN's and of course she she's the expert now on Russian media infiltration Russian propaganda actors to just so confusion to make people doubt that anything could be true Putin sure yeah I mean that is the main goal of Russian disinformation whether it be through their television channels whether it be through other measures like hacking like legions of paid trolls. That is the ultimate goal, to undermine democracy, to undermine faith in our institutions like the media and we have a president-elect now who has basically matched some of these key talking points in Russian propaganda to undermine our system

16:05 and People didn't really take it seriously. I mean, the goal of Russian media is to undermine faith in our institutions and now they've succeeded in hacking our elections. And I know that Julia has done some reporting and there have been some reporting but- Just say that they've succeeded in hacking our elections! That's fake news! You know what else is interesting about that comment? Woolsey was on one of the talks...I got too many clips already so I didn't clip this but

16:46 Woolsey, the ex-CIA director. And he says that problem people are having is they're conflating...in other words taking two discrepant things and pushing them together to make a third thing that doesn't exist. And she herself just did it by talking about all the Russians are really good at disinformation or really good at disinformation. These emails are not disinformation by any means! recognized as legitimate emails. So where's the disinformation part? In fact, there has been no evidence of disinformation. No one can cite any disinformation regarding this election and as this little particular thing goes on I have a completely different take now having heard all the deconstructions that have gone on or attempted deconstruction. As do i by the way. I also have a theory on what really happened here. Okay well you want to do your thing?

17:39 Okay, you might want to hear mine first. Yeah First of all let's take a look at some of the these clips that have come out about the hacking and all the rest I have I have a bunch of really silly ones in there and one really dynamite one from an unexpected source Well, let's start with NBC which is a disinformation source if anybody is. NBC would take the cake and NBC broke in number of you know this is the thing where all of a sudden based on The Washington Post once again. The Washington Post comes out with a story saying it's been confirmed by their intelligence agencies that uh... the russians who were behind it and they can point the finger at buden which is just not true they have not confirmed anything i think that's the point and it's not a room but it's not put her on to win so proven cool let's see what we have for the nbc uh... run down on this now by the way they didn't play did you obey joy behar ice or before she was like finders of the club god

18:40 Okay, I mean do we have to wait till the hammer and sickle is on the American flag before we stand up to this guy And now you're just walking on my beat. I have that It's late. Just walk in a much walk, and I shouldn't have given you the floor who then it okay? Let's start with Let's start with what has really come out of this. I can't seem to find my NBC... Yeah, I got it! Starter NBC Putin Russia hack. Oh yeah, I'm ready to go. I'm good to go boss. Now on NBC News exclusive What intelligence officials say is evidence the Russian effort to disrupt the US election went all the way to the top, naming President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB chief as an active player in the cyber operation that targeted Democrats and the Hillary Clinton campaign. And tonight we've also learned new details about what officials believe motivated the plot NBC senior investigative correspondent Cynthia McFadden tells us more

19:35 Tonight NBC News can report that Vladimir Putin was personally involved. Wow, he's also on the Putin tip What is this? This is why we have to use our consonants John like T Important Putin who ten ten putin up pooing pooing I don't mean personally involved in the Russian attempt. I gotta do that again I can't believe that That's not good. And this is Cynthia McFadden, their top hitman. Broadcast legend! ...an attempt to disrupt the US election Two senior intelligence officials with direct access to all the information tell NBC News The new intelligence is derived from diplomatic sources and others including spies working for America's allies Spies? Specifically a high-level intelligence official tells NBC News Putin's role

20:30 was directing the use of the hacked material. Putin's objectives were multifaceted what began as a vendetta against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to split off key American allies by creating the image that other countries couldn't depend on the US to be a credible global leader anymore He is out of it against Hillary Clinton. That has been known for a long time he wants to discredit American democracy and make us weaker in terms of leading the liberal democratic order and most certainly, he likes President-elect Trump's views on Russia now it sounds like we have evidence to support those hypotheses

21:13 So tonight the question will the US retaliate against Mr. Putin directly as part of its contingency planning, US intelligence dug into mr. Putin's personal empire and concluded that his network controls some 85 billion dollars worth of assets. Lester? All right Cynthia thank you. Okay By the way, just to break down that report from a deconstruction perspective. What was the point of them throwing in the $85 billion assets? He controls $85 billion in assets. What does that got to do with anything in that report? I don't know. That I don't know. It's just put it there as a gratuitous slam to make you suspicious at the end so your mind is open to the bull crap she delivered. Excellent point!

22:01 I think maybe as an additional backgrounder, just what the thinking is among the elites. Harry Reid...I had no idea he is more crackpot than I've ever even considered to be! Yes. Every single Russia theory is in Harry Reid's mouth And I think that what's going on here, is that you have WikiLeaks who coordinated everything they did obviously with the Trump campaign That's why they leaked out a little bit here drip here, drip there So it...there's collusion there

22:40 Clearly. During the campaign, especially last few months of the campaign, WikiLeaks was heavily involved in trying to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Trump. Someone within the Trump campaign organization was in on the deal I have no doubt. Comey was a front for the Republican Party Here's a man who violated all precedent and decided that he was on his own He was going overruled many, many decades of precedent and he said he didn't care what this attorney general or any other said. He was going to get involved in the election and he did. And not only did it once but time after time. One time a week before the election

23:27 He should not have done that. He should not have done that because I'm confident we lost Senate seats because of that and I'm confident that Clinton lost the election because of that." Well, it's what Hillary says too. Yeah well its talking points... And it went all the way to the White House! I mean did you hear Josh Earnest? I didn't clip it, but yeah. I heard him play it oh There's ample evidence that was known long before the election and even in most cases long before October about the Trump campaign in Russia everything from the Republican nominee himself Calling on Russia to hack his opponent. Ha is joking

24:07 You know he didn't even say that I said, I'm sure the American media will reward you highly if you can find the 33 missing emails. That's what he said Yeah No, they could... I mean that is such a distortion. And he was being cynical about that! Yeah it's such a distortion of the truth. To hack his opponent. Hack? It might be an indication that he was obviously aware Wait a minute to hack his opponent oh you mean Trump's opponent okay that makes sense That he was obviously aware and concluded He wasn't aware of anything no. Let's make up our minds about Trump It's either all knowing everybody, he got control of all things. He was aware of this and that or is just a big dummy? He doesn't even do his daily intelligence reports! How the heck could he know?! He's dumb!!

24:49 He's a dummy, he's a buffoon. A sack of orange Cheetos! This was the problem they've always had with George Bush the media had it. He was either a big dummy or he was a mad genius. Make up your mind! The exact same thing and concluded based on whatever facts or sources that he had available to him, that Russia was involved and their involvement was having a negative impact on his opponent's campaign. That is why he was encouraging them The Republican nominee referred to... When was he encouraging them to keep doing it? He's referring back to the same joke. Hey, if you can find those emails I'm sure they're going to be... Well they weren't doing it at that time! They hadn't found any of these emails from the DNC so how could he be encouraging them to keep doing it when they haven't been doing it?! This is exactly why Josh Earnest will never receive a podcast license No

25:47 the Republican nominee referred to. By the way, I did that audacity trick again on him? He was... there were pauses of six seconds in this thing! I don't understand how he gets away with them. When do people say, why can't you speak in sentences? He's very considered in the way he speaks. Yeah right so but the audacity is great removes all the silences fantastic. The president of Russia as a strong leader the republican nominee chose a campaign chair that had extensive lucrative personal financial ties to the Kremlin and it was obvious to those who were covering the race that the hack-and-leak strategy that had been operationalized is not being equally applied to the two parties into the campaign. It wasn't fair! They should have released something from the Republicans too

26:37 That's not fair. There was one side that was bearing the brunt of that strategy, and another side that was clearly benefiting from it. Now I know there is a lot of reporting about whether or not there may be some disagreement in the intelligence community about whether or not that was the intent... Uh, there is disagreement! ...that they should ask and a question they may attempt to answer but there certainly was no doubt about the effect Okay, I think we've heard it. It was 10 seconds okay? Now now since you want to do you're gonna play him I have to play my counter clip hmm Which is not really a counterclip but they have the entire clip that available for people on this Keith Olbermann Yeah Why wouldn't I only have the ice or the little why would he play the whole clip its seven and a half minutes is the reason yeah

27:25 seven and a half minutes of dynamite juiciness. No, no, no. The end is juicy enough. OK? I'm glad you thought that because now I can write about this long clips but it's kind of juicy for awhile then he just repeats himself but it gets at the end it so good It'll get people to go to their show notes and get used to that system and play it there. I think unless you...I got the whole thing if you want to know what's good But I have it too don't worry about we'll play the ISO That's fine. Here we go, Keith Olbermann this is he now let's talk about it let's see yeah let's give a little background no station the GQ right well actually right he can't keep a job because I guess he's like this that's why he's kind of a hothead and so he was fired from ESPN and then

28:11 Went to work for MSNBC and pretty much carried the station during the Bush administration. Wait, wasn't it the other way around? It was MSNBC then he went to ESPN No no, he was at ESPN long before MSNBC Oh I didn't know that He's very famous on ESPN But then he made a big fuss when they fired him because he was disagreeable. Then, he went to MSNBC and totally kicked ass for awhile and then he got sick of them or Current offered him the job. He went to Current. Then he bitched and moaned because he didn't like the way this set was and he didn't like the sound but of course meanwhile it's worse now. And then he went back to MSNBC to do a special show which never go any ratings. It was very good! He is really a good sportscaster

28:50 And he fired again, and this time a little with less indignity I believe. So then he's got nothing to do. He was getting good money so now he does a video podcast for GQ magazine. He has done a few of these. Does he have a podcast license? No. Fake news? And so he goes on this rant, because he hates Trump probably more than he hates anybody, George Bush or anyone else. So he goes on this long rant and this flip that you can pick up anywhere and the end of it is where he really ramps it up and then he finishes off in his... It's just

29:30 It's really, really weird. The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread! And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to SCUM! That was my favorite bit in the whole clip We're beholden- the military leaders are scum, I tell ya! We're beholden to SCUM. We're beholden to SCUM! We're beholden to SCUM! Russian Scum! Russian Scum As things are today January 20th will not be an inauguration but rather the end of The United States as an independent country It will not be a peaceful change of power it will be a usurpation and the usurper has no validity No credibility And NO authority

30:13 under the Constitution. This is a reality that will become the only reality until this country rids itself of Donald John Trump! He is not a president, he is a puppet put in power by Vladimir Putin and those who ignore these elemental existential facts Democrats or Republicans are traitors to this country and will immediately and forever after be held accountable Resist! Peace! We actually put... Damn it, hold on a second. I wasn't ready for that. Hold on. Accountable! Resist! But resist we much. We must resist and we will much about If you actually put his ending together Yeah its kind of the same No not in regards to

31:10 Tell me what you want. Put his last two words together, it's resist peace. Yeah, I resist peace yes very good moron let's listen again. Resist Peace! I can do that well Let's just...you still gave me the floor so i'm going to keep it because I want to get right to the kind of the crux of this whole thing which showed up on. Oh I wanted to play a few more clips before you get to the crux of the thing Okay, if I come okay. They're gonna be as good as Joy Behar's oh man I don't know if I can get as good as joy Bay har, but I'll try Nancy Pelosi was on with Andrea Mitchell

31:54 And, by the way you have to see this video. The woman's face does not move her eyes look like she puts on a head mask every morning her eyes are really really sunken. She's all Botoxed. It's beyond Botoxed. Oh no it is beyond Botoxed! Beyond! It's just insane. No, she really looks horrible and and she came out with some with a huge lie which I have another clip to prove it Regarding, I guess it was Trump's reply to the intelligence community with you know they have some... They're not in total agreement etc. And he said well this is the same people who told us there were weapons of mass destruction and we got to be careful with this before we start taking action that was pretty much his answer and Nancy Pelosi addresses this. I want to ask you about Russia because...

32:52 What? The idea that, I was just going to say this commentary about they've screwed up with the weapons of mass destruction was pretty much repeated by everybody to an excess. Yeah Nancy Pelosi refutes it Oh yeah, right. Yes I saw this thing and when she re- I didn't clip it but you got me on that one. It's hilarious. agreed on is Russia's role in trying to interfere with the US election, with hacking not just hacking the DNC but hacking John Podesta's emails and then according to our own reporting and a lot of other reporting turning that material through intermediaries over to WikiLeaks to be distributed. What do we know about what Russia tried to do? And how effective they may have been I think it's quite remarkable and people should take

33:55 sharp notice of the fact that the President of the United States has made the statement he has about the Russian involvement in the disruption of our election. Even if it didn't succeed, even if Hillary Clinton had won. It's still very important for us to have an investigation I prefer an outside bipartisan commission to review it Others have said that can be done in the Congress but it has to be done You can just say as Mitch McConnell and his speaker said Congress could do this task them to do it. It's interesting also that Donald Trump responded when he said the intelligence community has said that Russia was responsible for the hacking, he returned it with those same people who told us that Saddam Hussein had Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

34:50 did not. The intelligence community never said that the evidence there is no intelligence to support that claim, that threat was made by the Bush-Cheney administration as you see in Britain they've just dispelled all of that it was a massive misrepresentation of American people but there's nothing in the intelligence to support the threat that Bush Cheney was presenting so it was acute response with acute response and other people felt maybe have fallen for it but it's important to note that a president should pay attention. All right so she's saying cute but it's just not true there was our intelligence never said that, it was Bush and Cheney the horrible Bush and Cheney well that's interesting

35:35 Why is it that former CIA director Michael Hayden in 2008 said something different? Looking back at what the American people were told about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, was there a colossal intelligence failure? Yeah. We got it wrong Alright, and although I wasn't at the CIA. I was in the room when that national intelligence estimate was approved by the community Oh! It wasn't just a CIA document And frankly Tim, I voted yes it was my belief that what we were saying in that document Was correct Why did you get wrong? Now... So Pelosi is full of crap She's just out blatantly lying or she didn't know Or she's senile Hello Yeah, this is incredible

36:23 And it wasn't that hard to find. But the rules he was on, he also admitted that they screwed up on their own. Yeah but here's Hayden talking about what happened. They all signed onto the agreement there was a consensus document same words we're hearing now yeah consensus high confidence report you imagine if uh if you got your report card as a kid and little Johnny... We have a consensus on Little Johnny with high confidence we think he's gonna be okay come on So I have the other side of this argument, but maybe you just want to jump in. Yeah let me wrap my side up and then you have a... Let's go start with Intel Agency's no-show Scandal 1 Fox. You got it!

37:03 We have a big story breaking tonight as an increasingly tense fight takes an ugly new turn with US spy agencies now refusing to share the intel being used to attack the legitimacy of the 2016 election, to some extent. Good evening and welcome to The Kelly File everyone I'm Megan Kelly The battle over the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election took a couple of explosive turns in the last 24 hours. First, the Republicans started questioning why they were seeing media stories of Russian involvement that went well beyond what they had been told by these agencies

37:40 Then the House Intel Committee demanded an emergency hearing with the CIA, the FBI and National Security Agency to figure out what's going on here. And now tonight just hours ago Republicans forced to cancel that hearing when the intel agencies refused to cooperate saying they would not be sending any briefers in In just a moment we will have reaction from Congressman Peter King of the Homeland Security Committee. Yeah, I saw that. But we begin tonight with our Chief Intelligence Correspondent Catherine Herridge who's had a busy day in Washington. Catherine? Well thank you Megan. Hey Pixie Girl is back! She's had a busy day. Hey Pixie! She's a busy girl. Whatcha doing Pixie? You know what's funny about her is I notice this especially on reports like this...I think because she has been working at Fox or there something going on that they cut her off

38:27 She has this look of a person that's been cut off. I don't know like she suppressed He has a look of defeat They won't tell me they usually they always tell me stuff, but now they're not telling me anything right look Yeah You got the Peter King thing too yes And there's something I want to talk about in the next clip yeah That was my kicker cliff, but okay you go for it let's finish her Let's finish pixie girl Well, thank you Megan. Late today the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee issuing this statement after the CIA said that agency would not send a briefer to Capitol Hill to de-conflict reports about Russia's alleged interference in November election. Congressman Devin Nunes of California writes, The committee is deeply concerned that intransigence in sharing intelligence with Congress

39:13 can enable the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes. The committee will continue its efforts and will insist that we receive all the necessary cooperation from the relevant leaders of the intelligence community." The classified briefing Thursday on the Hill was going to focus on whether there is new intelligence or analysis that concludes the Russian President Vladimir Putin authorized a cyber activity to ensure a Trump victory, the CIA told the House Committee it was too busy with the president's review to help A former intelligence officer tells Fox News that knowing the Russian leader's intent would be challenging. If you're going after a leadership target, you have to have someone next to that leader so the idea of finding out intent has to be clearly defined and based on having a human intelligence asset, a spy inside of the very circle you're trying to collect on

40:05 With at least four investigations on Capitol Hill and a full review requested by President Obama, A former senior intelligence officer said the probes are creating a paper trail that will make it harder for Mr. Trump and the Russian president to build a close relationship after January 20th Megan. Wow! That'll be hard I think it'd be party. Man those douchebags are gone. So they bring in Peter King, who we consider kind of a flake. No! We consider him an incredible douchebag but he was making sense here Well, what was interesting to me is he was so upset about this situation because when the Congress calls for a hearing on this emergency or otherwise these agencies work for the Congress. These oversight committees... For us they work for- This is oversight on behalf of the people Right and so they have to show up So the reason not showing up we have to speculate why aren't they showing up I think you're not showing it because they don't know what the hell's going on Or where this is even coming from? I think The Washington Post The New York Times and NBC

41:03 which are all colluded against Trump in the first place. I think they're making this stuff up! Well, i have some ideas. Okay good well let's see but first let me say the thing about the King thing here where he's upset... He says a lot of stuff in here. I agree and this was-I told you this is my kicker killer clip It's a killer clip because he talks about stuff that has been in the news And he's refuting it all, even though nobody would say anything before. If you can listen to Peter King closely you really get a lot out of it. Joining me now with more New York Congressman Peter King member of the Homeland Security Committee and permanent select committee on intelligence. Congressman good to see tonight so what does tell you that these agencies have refused Congress' demand that they show up and share the intel?

41:48 Megan, this is absolutely disgraceful. All we've heard from the intelligence community over the last several months is that they could not say that there was any attempt to undermine Hillary Clinton to help Donald Trump. The consensus was that there was an attempt by the Russians to put a cloud over the election—to create disunity. Well, that's what happening right now and it's the intelligence community doing it. There was nothing at all. ever told to us. In fact, they said that they couldn't prove it that there was an attempt to favor one candidate over the other director Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence said that publicly on November 17th. They what? He says they said they couldn't prove it but yet the news media keeps telling us they could I'm going to interrupt this clip for 45 for 21 seconds This is Clapper answering the question about WikiLeaks as far as the WikiLeaks

42:45 The evidence there is not as strong and we don't have good insight into the sequencing of the releases or when that, when the data may have been provided. We don't, we don't have a good insight into that otherwise known as nothing. So Peter King speaks the truth here speaks the truth There's nothing at all ever told to us—in fact, they said that they couldn't prove it—that there was an attempt to favor one candidate over the other. Director Clapper, the director of national intelligence, said that publicly on November 17th. And now we have this—as far as I know, there is no decision by the CIA. There is no consensus opinion. And yet we find in The New York Times and The Washington Post, and yet the—I mean,

43:37 The House Committee on Intelligence was told nothing about this, and yet it's our committee—it's Devin Nunes who has jurisdiction over the CIA and all the intelligence agencies. This violates all protocols, and it's almost as if people in the intelligence community are carrying out a disinformation campaign against the president-elect of the United States. It is absolutely disgraceful, and if they're not doing it then there must be someone in in the House or the Senate who's leaking false information. And there should be a full investigation of this." So you're telling me that when the Washington Post had this report on Friday citing anonymous sources saying that the CIA has determined Russia interfered in the election with the purpose of helping Trump's campaign,

44:25 That was the first you heard of it from The Washington Post. And now this would be your next and best attempt to get the CIA to come before you, and you have oversight responsibility over them, to tell you what they know...and you've been refused! Absolutely, absolutely refuse. They won't be there tomorrow they have somebody has the time to leak it to The Washington Post and The New York Times But they don't have the time to come to Congress And it's the House Committee on Intelligence that has the absolute jurisdiction over the CIA and the intelligence community You don't believe that? That we're too busy to help you right now because we're busy helping President Obama. You don't believe that No, It's their job. It's their job to come. They-they don't have any choice. They have to come in Yeah I was really good

45:09 Well, he made a bunch of points clear which is that these agencies don't know what happened or who did what. I think this whole thing is made up. I think the Washington Post and The New York Times following it will at some point say they're going to come out maybe after the inauguration, not the inauguration but the electoral college and say we were misled We apologize. They're going to be apologizing, but they're going to have said that we were misled by normally good sources that are giving you this kind of bull crap. They'll do the same thing they did with the intelligence briefing to the president. Yeah well somewhere along line it got mistranslated and then it didn't come out right people are afraid to speak up and yeah it's nonsense but these guys are going after

45:53 the election and they're trying to do everything they can to get the Electoral College changed. And Fox actually has this little clip, which is a bit of an aside but this is a clip about Larry Lessig now getting involved with the Electoral College vote trying to convince people that they're gonna switch over to Hillary for some unknown reason but he's also offering legal service you gotta just play this clip This is Electoral College Lessig Allegations that Mr. Trump got a helping hand from the Russians, again allegations. Trace Gallagher picks up the story from there.

46:30 And Megan, because Donald Trump won 306 electoral college votes to change the outcome anti-Trump activists would need to convince 37 Republican electors to vote against him. Harvard constitutional law professor Larry Lessig himself a brief Democratic presidential candidate says he knows of 20 GOP electors who are considering ditching Trump He's even offering them free legal counsel which could come in handy considering 29 states including 14 that voted for Trump have laws that bind electors to the candidate who won. Professor Lessig has offered no evidence to back up his claim, which is being directly contradicted by the Republican National Committee and state GOP committees who say that only one GOP elector, Chris Supran of Texas has revealed he's intended to vote against Trump

47:20 State and national GOP leaders have also been in constant contact with Republican electors to make sure they lock down their votes, although Democratic operatives are still actively trying to sway those people. Now, how... start with this. How is Lessig offering free legal services? And by the way he's not a trial attorney. He's a professor! But how is that not a bribe and how is that not interfering with an actual election? Ah John you misunderstand these are patriots They're patriots, they're heroes. So is that guy from Austin? That Texas? I have no idea. I don't think so he should be. Yeah move to Texas dude you'll be a hero! Gun-toting liberals before we get into the electoral college i have a couple things i want to play regarding well and so we heard Peter King he's congressman Republican Carol CNN

48:16 Facebook.com slash Carol CNN had Congressman Eliot Engel from New York, he's a Democrat and he corroborates the story Let me ask you about that because your ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Did you hear from intelligence sources that Russia's intent was to put Donald Trump in the White House? I haven't heard from intelligence sources I only know what i'm reading in the newspapers with intelligence sources have not contacted the members of Congress. I'm calling on the intelligence sources to brief the members of Congress, give us a thorough briefing as to what they know and why they came to the conclusion that they came with it. And also calling on the House to hold hearings. I am the Ranking Member for Foreign Affairs Committee. I think it's appropriate if we hold hearings or some other committees might want to hold some hearings you know in the house we've had all kinds of hearings about Benghazi

49:08 Planned Parenthood about Hillary Clinton's emails. I certainly think that the house ought to do hearings Involving this very very serious breach okay, so he corroborates the fact that intelligence has not come to Congress yeah So now I want to play a couple of short clips that lead into my hypothesis about what really happened with this hacking. Okay, and when you're done with that, I have my one last clip with my hypothesis which will vary from yours. Okay good! Who knows? It's always a danger when you let me go first. Just reading the headlines though, New York Times, CIA judgment on Russia built on swell of evidence I mean this is how it's being portrayed that's one of my favorites there's no evidence a swell of evidence The perfect weapon how Russian cyber power invaded the US another New York Times headline and of course what is unfortunate

50:07 Although they do it pretty, I guess if it was the printed version would be below the fold is where they put the information that this was really a fishing expedition and that's how they got his password. You can't really speak of a hack if that's what happened and they have to keep going back to um... The crowdfire report which said oh this is how it happened It was you know it was a rogue email as a phishing attempt And they got your password and then your emails were downloaded seconds after that Yeah. So that's not necessarily a hack, you know and that could be anyone can do it It's a leak and well let's let's Well now you get now you're getting to where I want to go But first a nice little entremont from Josh Ernest Boyd responding to some of the charges from the president likes Twitter feed and You know what? I've tried to do is just to present objective facts And you know that I think the objective fact that's relevant here is The intelligence community a month before the election came forward and presented at a unanimous view

51:05 a high confidence assessment that China was engaged in malicious cyber activity to destabilize our political system. I'm sorry, Russia What an idiot. You get to almost clip of the day, that's fantastic catch. I'll take a borderline. It was like a border line. All right? What an idiot yeah he had a stupid look on his face too well that's what it used to be China remember it was China China China the president China China North Korea North Korea

51:47 North Korea, they hacked Sony. North Korea! North Korea!" That's what they say... Well you know the funny thing is I'll slip a clip in here The funny thing is that they seem to think What I'm talking about is that the elite seem to think Russia is great foil for anything Play this little aside which is the German news Now Germany is pre-blaming Russia For what's going to happen to their elections Hysteria in America over accusations that Russian hackers influenced the presidential vote is now spreading to Germany, which is gearing up for its own general election next year. Newspapers have been flooded by headlines warning of possible Kremlin interference Peter Oliver reports

52:33 We've seen it in the US, we've seen it in the United Kingdom. It now seems that its here as well in Germany Russia represents the biggest threat to your daily lives if you read the newspapers anyway said that Russia could influence next year's federal elections. That has been lapped up by the media here with article after article after article all saying that the votes of the German people might not matter if Kremlin backed hackers have different opinion. If we look at todays headlines in one of the country's major newspapers, the Frankfurter

53:09 and Russia's mentioned twice on the front page in a story just up here about Lepo saying that Russia never wanted to have any kind of peaceful or diplomatic solution to the conflict. And then Russia again mentioned in relation to hacking in the United States, potentially attempting to influence the outcome of the election and also its closeness allegedly to Donald Trump it would seem There were so much mentions of Russia going on in the German press, it seems there's nothing else left for them to write about. Peter Oliver RT Berlin And it turns out Russia has done better than Britain. Are we done? Yeah you're just good. Uh there was another story I don't have a clip for You get the idea Oh well it gets better Story came out this morning in the Daily Mail Syria and Russia could be encouraging migrant sex attacks to oust Angela Merkel

54:04 Russian and Syrian secret services may be encouraging refugees in Germany to carry out orchestrated sex attacks in a bid to oust Angela Merkel from office. And this is from the European Council on Foreign Relations, uh-huh. Isn't that fantastic? Yeah! That's how you do it... You get the migrants Hey, would you like to make 10 bucks? Go rape that co-ed. I'll bet you before Christmas we hear that the Russians are handing out Viagra to migrants to rape the German women. Oh yeah, we forgot the old Viagra plug. Yeah they gotta get the Viagra plug in this is how it rolls! Alright now to get my assertion about what's going on and in this case I'm talking specifically about the DNC emails

54:52 Because that's really, you know...that was hacking the election in regard that we all discovered the DNC had screwed over Bernie Sanders. And they were very partisan towards Hillary Clinton and whatever they were going to do is going to get Bernie Sanders out of the race. That would...that's the true embarrassment because it's true! It was in the documents which are not refuted. Here's John Bolton, oh I want to be Secretary of State but no way Jose. I think it was on Fox and Friends. Now, he's former ambassador to the United Nations wasn't he also in the intelligence community? No, he was a bureaucrat in Washington that Bush took a liking too because he was just kind of

55:36 ideologue, and they put him in the UN. And that's really where he got his reputation before that he was considered a douchebag administrator I think he still a douche bag administrator Yeah well no as far as i remember i could look it up and i will while you're doing this but He has no connection of that No real connection to the intelligence community Well I think he signed his own not death warrant But he'll never work in DC again Because he used the word, although technically correct. He used a word that once you use that word your crackpot It's not at all clear to me just viewing this from the outside That this hacking into the DNC and the RNC computers was not a false flag operation Oops! Listen dude if you're gonna use false flag don't expect to get work

56:23 That's just not how I mean, I agree. False flag is it was a real term? It really happens and happened with our government. But still see computers was not a false flag to handy tip operation selling a nutball because truth if you speak truth in your jerk off your nut ball false flag its real term Anyway, yeah. He sounds like a crackhead. And it does happen? Yes, it certainly does! Here we go... Remember what FBI Director James Comey said dealing with Hillary's homebrew server he said we found no direct evidence of foreign intelligence service penetration but given the nature of this we didn't expect to so the question that has to be asked is

57:04 is, why did the Russians run their smart intelligence service against Hillary's server but their dumb intelligence services against the election? I believe that intelligence has been politicized in the Obama administration to a very significant degree. Okay, I agree as well so he makes a valid point which is you know why do they have this sophisticated way of hacking into stuff and And the FBI said, well, yeah it was probably Russia hacked in. We would know anyway because that's what you do. You cover your tracks and delete log files. It's an art form. Yeah you'd do it as like a pro. An art form now you use the word leak earlier Here's Judge Napolitano.

58:06 Hacking is when someone remotely enters an information system and alters it remotely so that the operator of the system doesn't know there was an alteration. That is what did not happen here, no matter what The New York Times and The Washington Post are opining this morning they cannot point to any evidence whatsoever that the outcome of the election was altered by foreign agents. There certainly was leaking, that leaking could have been facilitated by people in the NSA, by a rogue in Mrs Clinton's campaign or by a foreign entity but that was a leak! That was not a hack but the leaking probably came from someone on the inside or someone who had access

58:54 to the fiber optics through which the communications ran. That means somebody in the NSA or somebody who once was in the NSA, how do we know this? We know it because for better for worse whatever you think of them Edward Snowden revealed all this and revealed the nature and extent of the NSA's tentacles in all of the fiber optic traffic in the United States of America not to get too much uh... in the weeds The leaking could not have occurred without the NSA knowing about it. And if anybody hacked in and altered internal systems, the NSA would know who the hacker was and when they did it." We haven't heard any of that. Alright! Then I concur... Here's what I think happened. This is again only regarding the DNC emails which were very damaging Obama hates Hillary Clinton He hates the Clintons in general

59:55 We know this. They never get along, not a good vibe. He also waited quite long before he endorsed Hillary Clinton and I think what he saw as the campaign started is holy crap this woman's gonna ruin my legacy is she's going to change my healthcare, you know, my Obamacare. I'm going to change all these things." She's already saying well it's no good we gotta fix it there's no good and I think that he was more interested in his legacy when I say him I mean him and the people around him And it would be better to have a Republican come in, forget who it is. I mean, it's a dream that as Donald Trump because everyone will be able to say now man, it was so much better when Obama was there we really all we could have should've given him a third term. So my assertion is these emails were leaked on purpose by the Obama administration and in particular, I will say it was done by Valerie Jarrett. Well, it's an interesting theory

1:01:02 I don't think so, personally. Okay, my thinking is different and my thinking is based on one clip that came out all of a sudden kind of was it? Was the news media paid no attention to it Would to this what happened which is the hacking of the DCCC The D triple C. Yeah Which is the committee that elects the Congress people and there was played on This is a clip called those got DC CC in at somewhere's the name And I'll tell you what it leads me to believe, and this is the sidebar DCCC notes. Okay play or do you want some more set up? Yes play no play. Eric one of the stories that... You had a separate piece about this but one of the things that got buried in this while we were all focused on the DNC hack and perhaps the Podesta emails were how some of this information actually made it down into very key house races, the hack into the DCCC, the Congressional Campaign Committee

1:02:00 That's right. So at the same time as the hackers got into the DNC, they share a building and actually have a connection between the computer systems of the DNC and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. And so they were able to take tens of thousands of pages of documents from the DCCC which oversees their house races by Democrats. They took these documents and then distributed them to bloggers and reporters in individual states At key moments, like right before specific debates, before primaries to try to damage the standing of the Democratic candidates. It was all the documents that went out were related to opposition research and other collections of documents from the Democrats

1:02:39 Those document dumps had real consequences on some Democrats. So while Trump's spokesman suggested this had no impact on the election, I think you could look at some of the House races in particular in Florida there is a particular House race where the party wanted one woman who was running Annette Tadeo to be their candidate and she was lost after the document dump embarrassed her and it became a subject of debates in news coverage. And that's, that was consequential on what didn't get much attention from the media because we were so focused on other things. Dimitri would you just have a few seconds or are there enough measures in place to talk to me? Okay, so the only people who had benefited from all this especially the DCCC crack were the Republicans I would

1:03:25 put forward the idea that the Republicans were behind all of this with various spies and tricky dicks, a Nixonian style of getting into the different systems. And then leaking this stuff to WikiLeaks doing it kind of using the Russian thing as a smoke screen and what makes me think that this is because the Russians don't benefit from half these Congress people getting in office there's only people that benefit from all these break-ins, hacks fishing expeditions no matter how cheesy they are including the Podesta one. Are the Republicans and if it was done by the NSA or by anybody from the Obama administration could really get in there is a lot of stuff they couldn't get into so this is second tier kind

1:04:10 And the Republicans did it, they did it and then they misdirected to the Russians. As soon as the Russian thing came up they were fine with that. And Donald Trump's just kind of mild things like well you know they were wrong about weapons of mass destruction and the giveaway to me is that Late in the game is when all of a sudden this bull crap comes out that well, you know The Russians also had hacked the RNC but they didn't bring that up. They never hacked anybody Let alone the RNC but this was another little misdirection You throw it out there nothing to see here Oh yeah Yeah, the right the RNC was also hacked so let's put more focus on the Russian outside sources Meanwhile you get away with murder

1:04:54 the Republican Party's behind this, period. Hmm. Okay well you know could be It's the only...who else benefited? Follow the money. It's a who benefited, and this DCCC thing- Yeah that's a piece of info I hadn't thought about. That said to me oh wait a minute there is no way...the Russians don't give a crap about a Florida congressperson. In fact most of these Democrats and Republicans all hate the Russians so why would they get involved in that it makes no sense. Well, we do know that it's being used to possibly influence the electoral college. I want to talk about that after I say in the morning to you John Suarez! He stands for DCCCC, Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the names of knights out there. Yow in the morning to everybody in the chatroom no agenda stream dot com in the morning too

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1:15:48 And that didn't sound very, very tough. Yeah no then you give them a dirty look! So what are you looking at? What are you looking at man?! Alright thank you all very much we'll be thanking everybody else in our second segment $50 or above and of course we have another show coming up on Sunday remember us at... Devorac.org slash N A yeah so you tell him your an executive producer give him a good dirty look and propagate the form Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Patrick Fulson? Shut up slave! Shut up slave! So perhaps to get us into the mood for talking about the latest gambit to thwart Donald Trump from ever becoming president... ...we should play this little video which came across The Transom and this is from

1:16:52 Uh, Unite for America. Is it about scum? No! Unite for America. Now unite for america is a uh this is really this is dynamite Actually, I have... we should probably take a look at the website John. It's uniteforamerica.org and just at the top here. We're a multi-partisan movement of concerned citizens and volunteers united against the unprecedented threat of an unqualified candidate taking our nation's highest office! So here is a bunch of celebrities led off by Sheen

1:17:29 Martin Sheen, you know Moby's in here. A bunch of people you'll recognize some of the voices and here's their message Republican members of the Electoral College this message is for you as You know our founding fathers built the electoral college to safeguard the American people from the dangers of a demagogue And who ensure that the presidency only goes to someone who is to an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications An eminent degree someone who is highly qualified for the job. The Electoral College was created specifically to prevent an unfit candidate from becoming president There are 538 members of the Electoral College You and just 36 other conscientious Republican electors can make a difference by voting your conscience on December 19th And thereby shaping the future of our nation I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton Yeah, you are! No, I am asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton

1:18:27 I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton. As you know, the Constitution gives electors the right to vote for any eligible person Any eligible person no matter which party they belong to But it should certainly be someone you consider especially competent Especially competent To serve as President of The United States Of America By voting your conscience You and other brave Republican electors can give The House of Representatives the option to select a qualified candidate for the presidency. I stand with you. I stand with you in support and solidarity with conservatives, independents and liberals... ...and all citizens of the United States The American people trust that your voice speaks for us all And that you will make yourself heard through the constitutional responsibility granted to you by Alexander Hamilton himself What is evident is Donald Trump lacks more than the qualifications to be president

1:19:26 He lacks the necessary stability. And clearly, the respect for the constitution of our great nation. Ah! Note the piano swelling. You have position... Nice. ...and the opportunity to go down in the books as an American hero who changed the course of history. A hero? Patron?! You have my respect. For your patriotism and service to the American people. Unite for America I respect your work, man. You know somebody came up with a thesis that these actors and jerk-offs from Hollywood have actually cost Hillary the election! Yeah that's not about a thesis at all

1:20:07 Because they're so arrogant. What is very interesting about this site, I don't know if you went to uniteforamerica.com Yeah i was watching the difference talking heads pop up Now if you go to the FAQ page down about three quarters of way down They do have a nice infographic Here's the plan The plan is to get 37 Republican elector Is this the About page? No it says FAQ It's all the way at the bottom See ya says that about and then it goes to the FAQ. Okay, all right the FAQ and then three quarters away down So the idea is to have electors flip for someone else, which would not be Hillary. It would be someone else there's talk of John Kasich on this website that's I guess one of their ideas is talk of Michael Bloomberg. So you vote for somebody else and then this infographic shows that it goes back to the House and then it would be the top three candidates which will be Trump Clinton and then The Unknown presumably John Kasich

1:21:07 and they talk about the draft vote, and all these things. And what gets me is this is all based on Alexander Hamilton's Federalist Papers No. 68. And you know on the one hand I know it's the same thing we were talking about earlier how can you say well this electoral college is an arcane idea from the 1700s? It's crazy but at the same time you want to stop the president-elect from becoming president by using the same, even more arcane... The Federalist Papers are older than the Constitution. Are they not? I don't remember when they were written but there's a bunch of them. Yeah and again i go back to saying yes the electoral college it worked we kept a maniacal person completely corrupt and as far as i'm concerned unqualified from becoming president! It worked

1:22:06 because the big states couldn't basically call. I mean, if Texas by itself could do this... We have 38 electors here, I think 39? Yeah, Texas is just alone with doing it already have one turncoat. So, that is the... Who should be sued by the way. That is the idea and everyone's going giddy over it man! Giddy I tell you. Well this is like-I hate to bring this back up but this reminds me of The Bet with my two journalist friends which I finally got my second check so they both paid for it. Ah, they paid up okay nice

1:22:45 Hookers and blow baby, which both of them said it's in there at the dinner table said well Trump is going to quit the campaign remember this little area. It's gonna work everybody was to all these big news organizations were trying to tell us that Trump was gonna quit the campaign cuz things are going so poorly for him he's gonna quit by Friday and I think we were there on Tuesday. And they both took the bet, and said this is bullcrap! This is nonsense! There's no way... Why would he do that? It makes no sense!" No. And- no, they took the bet. Oh yeah, now he's quitting the campaign. Oh yeah obviously. Absolutely. Yeah, he's out of it. This is a kind of delusion. And these are New York Times guys

1:23:25 That level, let's put it that way. No, it was a New York Times and Wall Street Journal level. Okay there you go And by the way so there was a thing in the Wall Street Journal I don't know unless you want to finish the end you wanna finish some points here but I wanna talk about something that was run in The Wall Street Journal That was a map of the table with everybody at the table. And I want to discuss, it was in the journal and showed who is that meeting with the techies? The big tech guys. Oh yeah well let's get into that in a second. Yeah maybe you can do it as Tech News too. My god okay but let's just finish up with the Electoral College because this...I find this highly interesting and entertaining what they're trying to do

1:24:05 It's desperation of the worst kind. It is here's Chuck no wait so again Federalist Papers are not part of the Constitution I mean do we need a background on The Federalist Papers? I think we do actually can you give us a brief... Let's go to the wikipedia page. Okay, that is better known as the Consultative Book of Knowledge. Alright let's read about it. By the way Tina and I were looking at my book of knowledge entry yesterday Oh yeah does it need fixing Well, you have a big audience now that can fix it. She fixed it but here's what's funny They talk about my company that took public think new ideas and at one point we had We had 700 employees It was a very big company on Wikipedia now its 7400 employees That's how many employees I had just to give you an idea of Wikipedia wait Wait how many were there really? 700 And how many did they say? 7400 So what are you bitching about

1:25:06 I wish you many employees. I wish you many employees. Yeah, Federalist Papers later known as the Federalists was a name of the publication later known as The Federalist Papers, a collection of 85 articles and essays written under this pseudonym Nobody had the guts to write it. Publius or Publius? Wait a minute, wait, so Hamilton didn't even write under his own name? No It could be fake news! And it was fake names It was actually written by Hamilton James Madison and John Jay promoting the ratification of the Constitution So these are during the constitutional development 77 were published serially in The Independent Journal and New York Packet between 1787-1788

1:25:51 The authors of the Federalist Paper foremost wish to influence the vote in favor of ratifying the Constitution." So they didn't want their names on there. This is a form of fake news, I think... Yeah. And it was all under...I didn't know it was under pen names. Yep. A pen name one guy with different guys writing for him. Federalists number 10 which Madison discusses as means of preventing rule by majority- We don't know if Madison wrote or Hamilton wrote it? Or John Jay was an important character. Interesting point. Advocates a long commercial report, I'm sure they talked about it later so when i wrote that part uh that's the way they talked back then

1:26:33 Anyway, it was a lot apparently Hamilton Moser wrote most of it. He in fact federalist 84 is attributed to Hamilton Federalist 10 the Hamilton Federal Federalist 39s Madison so this mostly about but creating a Republican Federation as opposed to To appear democracy which they argued against right because of the problems with democracies So what they're saying? The people who want to the electoral votes changed are saying, the intent was that really the electoral college were the ones that pick the president. We can even pick someone who wasn't and never even nominated we can pick someone who doesn't want to be president. That's a John Kasich thing and we need to do that with full understanding of the candidate and therefore we need to have this is a good idea but we need to have eyes on the classified

1:27:29 evidence of Russia hacking the DNC and Podesta emails, and whatever else Russia did. And giving Viagra to German migrants That's the idea. And people are giddy over this, the people who hate the Constitution and the Second Amendment... This is true! It should be under the UN banner. Yeah it's an old outdated document when they had muskets. The First Amendment? No it's outdated. It's a living document that has to be updated to reflect social media but no

1:28:11 Now when it said the oh my I'm losing my voice now they're going back to the 1700s. Yes, yes It's going forward This is that of course the view obviously happen is going forward The idea that we'd apply it to this election when it was decided before I know a solution provides and out There's a glimmer of hope on the Constitution There's a glimmer of hope on the Constitution. There is a glimmer of hope we have an out! I would say that play Hamilton has probably ruined it for all these liberals Oh yes, and here is... By the way

1:28:55 Barbara Walters came out with it is some interview. I saw she said the view was ruining the legacy You as bad because of that she thought the network has ruined it there's a revolving door They don't have the same people any Bob weeks in a row now She went on and on about it. She says nothing to do with it anymore Well, we do not want it to change because it's just lovely the way it is its material It isn't show prep here's a chip Todd chip Todd Chuck Chuck Chuck Todd Chuck Todd Chuck Todd. Yeah, he's all in on the idea of getting rid of the electoral college which would take a constitutional amendment which is fine we can do that if you want to but there is a little different take on it If were never going to use the Electoral College then we should abolish it not say go popular vote that you make it a delegates

1:29:46 Stop. Aren't they using the electoral college now? Because the popular vote, thanks to California by the way I'll keep harping on this because nobody else is aren't we using it now isn't that what it's being used for to keep California from running in place yeah but they want to use it differently John No he says if were not going to use it He says if were not gonna use it aren't we using it Yeah but this a conversation about getting rid of it So he's saying, well if we're gonna get rid of it we're not going to use it. No, he says that we are not going to use it when we get rid of it That is what he said It was the other way around And then were using it This doesn't make any sense I'm sorry I interrupted the clip But play it away What I am just saying these guys are insane In general pretty much every clip We play on this show Will have insane people in it

1:30:40 Because that's what the mainstream is if we are never going to use the Electoral College, then we should abolish it not to say you go popular The electoral college was the idea a college of influencers right deciding whether they write American public have made the right decision if you were not going to ever allow them to exercise that power. I'm not saying get rid of the electoral college and the idea that a state is worth a certain amount of delegates, then turn it into a delegate. That's one piece of the puzzle that needs to be changed this whole election cycle has shown us what the founding fathers have created needs to maybe change they didn't foresee social media

1:31:21 I give them credit. You gotta give them credit, they thought of almost everything including the emoluments clause But it's- but they didn't see social media and the immediacy in how things can change at a moment's notice The electoral college is there to prevent the biggest majority states from dominating the presidential process Thank you So it's working exactly as the founders intended That guy got shut up real quick when he said that Now Well he's the only guy with any logic I mean thats exactly what he said is exactly the situation we're dealing with Exactly right There is... They just don't, you know what? I've come- Oh hold on. I've come to an enlightened view. Holding on Is there anything that we can please a little music little theremin maybe? Uh theremin if you want theremin no problem okay ladies and gentlemen hold on one second John We have an enlightened view from the only- Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! And go! I've just come to some conclusion that i think it's worth stopping the show almost for They hate Trump

1:32:22 Oh, yeah. They do? Yeah! With a passion. President-elect Trump does have an actual problem with his hotel in Pennsylvania I have uncovered. You know... I'm sorry, Pennsylvania but I don't know why I said Pennsylvania. I meant Washington DC. I'm sorry, I don't know why I said Penn... I think it's on Pennsylvania Avenue maybe. That's what it is. It's the old post office. That's the old post office. So he's leasing that and in the lease there is a provision that is going to be problematic from him And this is according to the GSA, which is the government... Government Services Administration. Thank you! Here it is in the contract let me see so he won the right to develop that in the lease okay The terms of the lease preclude any elected federal or DC official from holding the lease

1:33:24 including the provision that, quote, no member or delegate to Congress or elected official of the government of United States or the government of District Columbia shall be admitted to share—to any share or part of this lease or to any benefit that may arise therefrom. Provided however, that this provision shall not be construed as extending to any person who maybe a shareholder or other beneficial owner of any publicly held corporation or other entity." if this lease is for the general benefit of such corporation or other entity. So that means he, unless he puts it into a shell company that is public, he's gonna have a problem and they're going to go after him." I think he's just gonna have to dump it. Yeah. He's owned other hotels that he sold off. The Plaza Hotel for a long time... I'm just saying this has not reported you will hear about it. You've heard on The Noah Jenner Show first? It's not reported because there still is on the list

1:34:18 They're still harping on this rush. They got all this other news to keep harping and harping on it, and when that runs out of steam which will be in a week or two then they'll bring this up more troubles for Donald Trump ahead breaking news more troubles for Donald Trump ahead yes And then they're gonna talk about this there'll be something else rough road for the president elect we do have We're ahead of the game on our show as everyone knows and so does you what you're doing is just reading that kind of a new story from, I don't know. I'm guessing two or three weeks probably after the... They got to hound the Electoral College thing because that's their last best hope. No it's not going to start talking about anything until that's over once he gets in which will happen on the 20th i guess yeah uh no i'm not to try this month sometime shortly is good i think it's when when is it the 19th? I forgot now what no the 19th is the electoral college vote okay that's it

1:35:11 That's the one. And J-20 is the riots? Yes, that's the January inauguration. So okay so the 19th which we're coming up on... Today is 15th Wednesday Wednesday, so by the next- No not Wednesday. I'm sorry not Wednesday Monday is it Monday? Yeah, Monday It'll be Monday Okay that means on show 888 we will be discussing this situation because you never know I mean it's possible that what Larry Lessig says is true that the Republicans all hate Trump too and they're gonna vote for someone else John Kasich Well Kasich seems to be the guy That's who the celebrities are going with Kasich is a douchebag yeah yeah I would say you're right about that

1:35:57 Yeah, we shall see. All right where were we? Sorry I interrupted with my... We're all over the place My meta-analysis Yes well let me see oh I want to go to Euroland for a moment Well if you're gonna do that then afterwards we get there wait before you do it since we're still talking about Trump yeah let's do the miscellaneous rants which incorporates the Behar ISO Ah, miscellaneous rants. I mean do we have to wait till the hammer and sickle is on the American flag before we stand up to this guy? I think what we have are ignoramuses billionaires and a few generals This is pretty frightful stuff You have loads of people who have never been in government who don't understand the difference between business and government And we have a president-elect now who has basically matched some of these key talking points in Russian propaganda To undermine our system

1:36:54 We're talking about a candidate who's lost in an historic way, in terms of the popular vote. But clearly won at the electoral college Is this something like a national emergency? He's Trump! He's Trump! The President! I can't get enough of it Hey, I don't care what the guy sings, that jingle is just great Yeah, that was good What song is that from? That is from... I can't remember. Because, I know that the crazy parody guy Jeff Smith No no no The commercial guy Yankovic Oh Weird Al Yeah He did a whole song based on that riff Thats from some song from I think its uh I don't know Pearl Jam or something crazy Its Gump Gump Lump Lump Lump

1:37:45 Lump, right. President of the USA that's what it is. Nigel Farage we always love hearing from Nigel when he speaking to the douchebags at European Parliament Now before you play this clip I saw a part of this I didn't see the whole thing but you probably have it But! I thought he bailed on that? I thought he quit the European Parliament Um...I think its next term that hes not in I believe. When i saw this because it referred to the election, I'm watching and going...I thought he quit! What is he doing there? Someone would know someone in the chat room probably knows exactly what's going on with that but um He's still in UKIP isn't he? Yes no he had to take it over because the person who took it over couldn't take it It was some woman I think and she couldn't handle it so I think they just pulled him back in

1:38:41 Well, I don't know. We should look into it but yeah i saw this and said great you guys back And he was talking yes indeed more show prep It was very, very good little speech here about NATO. The European army which again we were promised promise I was there. I was living in the EU never will we have an army those days are over this is peace as unicorns rainbows no no no no. Well i think we can all agree that 2016 has been a momentous indeed historic year and as it's Christmas let's think of those events in terms of the three wise men bearing their gifts

1:39:19 First we had the Brexit deliverance. Then we had the Trump triumph and then thirdly of course, the Italian rebellion It's just that in this case, the gifts were all the same democracy and the rebirth of the nation-state. And I really think you better listen because i know in the past, you've managed to ignore Danish Dutch Irish and French referendums but this time it is for real a democratic revolution has begun When the 28 leaders of the EU countries meet tomorrow, on the agenda I see no sign of humility. I see no understanding what has happened at all In fact what is is the implementation plan of the EU global strategy on security and defence in simple English EU militarisation The building a European army and indeed Mr Juncker used Donald Trump's magnificent victory

1:40:20 to say, well that means NATO won't be here anymore. We have to do this ourselves is what you said and I think this is a huge and dangerous error Trump is not a threat to NATO he wants it to be redefined and he wants the members to pay their way It's Mr Juncker who was a threat to NATO You can pretend today if you like that your military structure is going to run in parallel with NATO, but those two structures cannot run together without being in direct conflict with each other. It was Tony Blair that first really worried me about this project when he said the rationale for the EU today is not peace it's about power and already we've seen that power exercised in terms of foreign policy in Ukraine where we have wantonly provoked Russia

1:41:12 and we actually got rid of a democratically elected leader. You know, history is littered with conflicts caused by empires that seek to expand and it's about time the British government actually stood up tomorrow and said enough This is madness and we as an independent United Kingdom will act as the bridge between America and the nation states of Europe to make sure that NATO is secure. I also hope tomorrow that we see at the British Prime Minister stop dithering on Brexit. It's been six months since we voted for our liberation and at the minute we're being dictated to by courts and European commissioners, and told what we can and cannot do I hope we do that but i suspect we won't and i suspect the other 27 leaders will continue on the same course And that is why you can all look forward to some even bigger dramatic shocks coming

1:42:09 in 2017. It's going to be, for nation-state Democrats a very happy New Year. Alright Paul Piedmont says Farage did not quit he serving out his term or until Brexit but he stepped down from the party leadership. He stepped back into it though now is temporary head of it again. Oh that's possible Yeah, right. They're there to give us very entertaining. They only gets called on once every two months or something like that as they go through everyone has got the boring his job in history. Well good glad you got that. OK yeah he tells it like it is

1:42:50 Well, you want to talk about the one thing that's the most interesting thing going on right now is Aleppo. Yes and because I was looking for clips...I was trying to put it together but couldn't quite make it happen. Well, Aleppo is interesting because there's a conflict of information. And I think there's a lot of propaganda with these cute videos that we're gonna talk about? I was thinking of the cute girl from Canada who's been in Syria and she's grilled by somebody in the mainstream media. She chews him out, yeah? I have that but I want to start with Here's the basic thesis, and I have most of the clips that cover this. The Western media is trying to sell a bullcrap story based on absolutely zero reporting. There is nobody there to report on any of this. And by the way every single video I've seen is taken from about

1:43:48 Let's say if a guy is shooting his Kalashnikov or whatever he is shooting. And the video is being shot from about the two o'clock position. So not even behind him, not even behind the barrel but from in front to the side and this is bogus bullshit video these are guys just shooting they're just shooting in the air that is propaganda! No the whole thing is all b-roll bullcrap yeah so let's start with a Canadian woman who chews out this guy... This is a clip that has been around it goes around on internet She's a Canadian journalist who was called the blogger on one site that doesn't like her. A guy from the Norwegian mainstream media asked her questions saying, what are you... Because she is bitching at this forum about we have an agenda and he says what is the agenda? We're just reporting. We got good stuff and we're reporting it. And that guy was arrogant too. He sitting there. Very arrogant. Total arrogant cock! Yeah

1:44:45 Timecode. I'm sorry, timecode. RT Canadian journalist versus Stooge. Before I play we could also have like a 15 kilohertz tone which you wouldn't hear but then i could go back and find the tone This is asking for more work. This is like a violation of your basic principles It's totally a violation of my life principles Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett has visited Syria several times in the past few years At her news conference she explained why she believes the Western media has its own agenda when covering the Aleppo crisis

1:45:27 You talk about the corporate media, the Western media, the lies and all of this. Could you explain what do you think might be the agenda from us in the Western media? And why we should lie, why the international organizations on the ground should lie? So international organizations on the ground tell me which ones are on the ground in Eastern Aleppo Yeah, okay I'll tell you there are none. These organizations are relying on the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights which is based in Coventry UK and which is one man they're relying on compromised groups like the White Helmets which let's talk about the White Helmets The White Helmets were founded in 2013 by a British ex-military officer They have been funded to the tune of 100 million dollars by the US, UK and Europe and other states

1:46:21 They purport to be rescuing civilians in eastern Aleppo and Idlib, yet no one in eastern Aleppo has heard of them. And I say no one bearing in mind that now 95% of these areas of eastern Aleppo are liberated The white helmets purport to be neutral yet they can found carrying guns and standing on the dead bodies of Syrian soldiers And their video footage actually contains children that have been recycled in different reports. You can find a girl named Aya who turns up in a report in month, say- I love the idea of recycled children. That's just funny. She turns up in the next month in two different locations so they are not credible. The SOHR is not credible.

1:47:01 Unnamed activists are not credible. Once or twice maybe, but every time? Not credible." So your sources on the ground you don't have them. The agenda of some corporate media it is the agenda of regime change in 2014 politicians, they see the problem as terrorism. They see elements of problems in the system that they have there but President Assad they don't seize the problem, they actually overwhelmingly support him so I'm basing it on their choice and their leader and I'm basing it on my interactions with people in Syria. So the best I like, I like that someone else besides us said the you know the Syrian observatory is one guy in the UK and like an apartment. And he's the number one source listed in European Parliament documents about the atrocities in Aleppo and Syria in general people know this we know it We talk about it but the mainstream media definitely does not got to talk about instead they're going to give you stuff like this is the NBC report there's Aleppo 1

1:48:06 Aleppo won NBC and this is the kind of reporting you're going to get from them making all these crazy claims. Now to the brutal four-year long battle for Aleppo that appears to be near its end this evening, The Russian government allied with a Syrian regime said today that military action has ceased in eastern Aleppo claiming Syrian forces have taken control of the city from rebels But as our Bill Neely reports, civilians are still scrambling to get out of Aleppo amid horrifying reports of executions. They escaped a slaughter today, thousands fleeing Aleppo's last battleground. The young and sick the old and helpless besieged for months trudging from the ruins of their homes they fled a relentless onslaught by regime and Russian forces crushing what is left of the rebel east but not everyone escaped terrified civilians sending what they called there last messages

1:49:06 The acid militias are maybe 300 meters away. No place not to go, it's the last place." No word tonight of one child seven-year old Banna whose latest message read this is my final moment to either live or die The horrors are clear on Aleppo's streets. Shelling and airstrikes claiming hundreds of lives We can't verify this video or many claims, but the UN is alleging regime militias are executing civilians in cold blood They've been going door-to-door Executing people on the spot

1:49:49 First of all... They're going door to door because they got to get out of there because the right, you know the place is being reclaimed by the government. But instead it's just getting out of there when well they can't now. They're going from door-to-door just shooting people in the head okay here this makes nothing but sense yeah here's my problem here's a big problem I have first of all that seven year old who did the video she's verified on Twitter okay so i'm just saying uh that is a i'd call that a flag I would say that's definitely a red flag. Although it is a blue flag on Twitter. All of these videos, to me smack of complete propaganda lying fake news so this...I've seen the videos this place has rubble eyes has been rubble eyes I guess the cell phone networks are still working great? So we can get all the videos out or they have Wi-Fi or how are they how is that working

1:50:39 I mean, that infrastructure still works? Seriously. Where they are... You can get a Twitter view. Yeah must be because you can get Twitter. Twitter! Twitter! So I asked- A good catch by the way with the fact that she's verified and two days later I see some of these very same people doing interviews on the BBC See this is what i tried to put together just didn't have the time to find all the clips but I know this is this is this is Hey hey hey! You read that? Now it's bad in Aleppo for sure, but this is not Assad going in there. I mean Samantha Powers...I don't want to play that clip of her and uh..I'm not gonna play it. I hate her! She's a horrible person. She's a dick and she's lying. She is lying Well here's the kicker to this little episode thing because I have a second part but it says Celepo so it starts with an S

1:51:34 And this is Celepo 2, and there's the second part of that report. And there's a very interesting punchline that to me just... Just reiterate what you're saying right there about the bullcrap. President Assad's troops are celebrating victory over the symbolic city of the revolution and denying they're committing atrocities As soon as people heard we freed this area he says, they feel safe But few can be safe even if the regime boasts that Aleppo rebels have stopped fighting That they'll be allowed to leave though it is not clear where But the battle here is over. The exodus of misery isn't over, nor is this war in so many places beyond Aleppo. Bill Neely NBC News Beirut. Hold on a second! The Exodus of Misery I like that but it's Joe Tough Did you hear this sign off? No don't say it let me roll it back

1:52:33 The battle here is over. The exodus of misery isn't over, nor is this war in so many places beyond Aleppo. Bill Neely NBC News Beirut. Beirut? He's not reporting from Aleppo! He's in Beirut Lebanon That is 185 miles away from Aleppo. So this is like reporting on the Seattle riots and talking about people trudging, have all these clips slaughter using words like that and talking about the exodus. This is like reporting on that happening in Seattle and you're in Portland Oregon. That's actually a shorter distance.

1:53:16 So the guy's in Beirut. So what? Yeah, he might as well be in London! He's watching CNN and reporting on it who knows so this is a bogus report in every way I think the whole thing is bogus there's no doubt it's bad in Aleppo No doubt Well actually But here's a prediction for you because this is being used obviously Because this will all be blamed on Russia The seven-year old Twitter verified kid she's gonna die That would be that would be the way to do it. Oh, well that's one way first you become a new account. We need her to become a little bit more of a celebrity. That's why she has the Twitter verification little more celebrity status interview here or there and then they have to kill her and then we'll be angry yeah damn Assad and so will twitter with your barrel bombs

1:54:10 Now here's the Russia Today report on this, which I believe because they actually have somebody in Aleppo. The only news outlet that does, I think and of course this could all be bull crap too but no one said it is. If Russia Today is going to deliver a phony baloney report someone would catch them This is Aleppo RT1. The sound of fighting had eased... That's not the right one. This is short RT Aleppo opening. No, no, Aleppo RT1 Sorry? Gotcha The State Department has a pretty one-dimensional view of what's happening in eastern Aleppo Its spokesman John Kirby confirmed it today when asked if he saw reports of people cheering in eastern Aleppo as the Syrian government was retaking control of that part of the city There are all these reports

1:54:59 of all just one dimension, kind of. Would you agree with that? No I don't, Saeed! I mean, I haven't seen every picture coming out of Aleppo but... I haven't seen honestly, Saeed, I haven't see any dancing in the streets. This is Dancing In The Streets? Yeah

1:55:36 Many people who are coming out of the war torn eastern Aleppo or telling stories that contradict the State Department's view of the situation there and apparently John Kirby never heard those stories from his sources of information. And we gather the best information that we can from a variety of sources. Some of it's press reporting, no question. A lot of it comes from reputable aid agencies that are either on the ground or have associates on the ground Yeah, no in Syria and some of it comes from intelligence sources Which I'm obviously clearly not gonna get into and I don't think secret It's incumbent upon me or anybody else from a podium To sit there in detail and provide a laundry list of every single individual. Is he harping on Guy NG Chachachacan again? Yeah And what a dick we should have played her jingle too by the way Provide a laundry list of every single individual organization that gives us information. It's a mosaic

1:56:36 It's a mosaic. Again, I would encourage you to go flip on CNN today and look for yourself at the imagery that is coming out of Aleppo by a reputable news organization So we did. We followed Mr Kirby's advice and looked into coverage of Aleppo by prospective Wait a minute they're on our beat all of sudden Back off RT Western media outlets certainly questions were raised RT's Murat Gazdiyev reports What's happening in Aleppo is one thing. What the media is telling you is happening, is entirely another. 100 thousand people are trapped in this city we're getting reports of executions a very grim picture emerging from inside Aleppo and thousands of civilians are still trapped in the ever-shrinking rebel enclave

1:57:22 complete meltdown on humanity. And the source is... well, someone told them. That's it! Very little of what you see in the Western media about Aleppo is verified after all they've got no one on the ground What they do have are exaggerated headlines Yes I'm telling ya Seven-year old Twitter girl dead. I like the prediction, I think you might be right. She won't be obviously dead. No she obviously won't be dead. They just changed her...she's like that girl they used to use, the Canadian woman pointed out where she is in this scene and some other scenes. She's an actress! Recycling children? Yeah, she gonna be recycled at the end of the year. That's funny. Oh man

1:58:21 Can we go talk to you? Yeah, it's actually disgusting to me. To watch this play out mainly because nobody has the guts to go there. It just unbelievable. Just unbelievable Here's a guy, this came out before Aleppo was liberated. This is from a couple days ago and it was from the last show I didn't play it but this is that guy Wilkerson he's on one of these cable news shows. Wilkerson if you remember is the general or Lieutenant General or Lieutenant Colonel something? Oh yeah okay I know yes And he used to be the aide de camp for Colin Powell

1:59:01 And he's the one who says, this is bullcrap. They came up and told us to read this in front of the United Nations. He has...he's just a grouser but he has a little interesting insight here that I thought was at least worth playing if we're gonna talk about it. Oh my gosh! I seem to forget that it wasn't Moscow who equipped trained and sponsored these rebels so they became capable of capturing and holding Aleppo for more than four years while terrifying its residents? opposition element is resident in the United States of America. It isn't on the ground in Syria fighting tooth and nail for its so-called rights, liberty and democracy and that sort of thing but I have never been able to detect in Syria a substantial militarily capable force of Jeffersonian Democrats desiring

1:59:53 to unseat Bashar al-Assad. In fact, quite the contrary." In short whichever way Aleppo's fortunes have rolled the only certainty is hearing that tried and tested formula of the past few years whatever happens blame Russia Canada must be pissed used to blame everything on them now it's all Russia yeah well as darn it darn it yeah Well, there's a lot of things coming to head. This is going to be a very interesting week Yeah, it's gonna be very very interesting week. We'll have to see how this all comes together But this Aleppo stuff and I'm gonna see if I can put something together for Sunday With these desperate please 300 there only 300 meters away from us they're gonna kill us we're all going to die luckily you have internet and I can do any of you with the BBC in two days um let me check my calendar for my veils

2:00:54 Talk to my agent. I better talk to my agent, yeah Can you play this clip because i'm just wondering what it is because i misspelled it completely which is very rare for me Yeah breach? Yeah! Yeah, I was looking at that myself It's spelled y-a-h pp. I'm gonna guess yahoo breech Oh that shit stops I'm gonna start with we do that in tech news We'll do that later Okay um...I have two little things on cache if you don't mind Cash is king. Yeah, well not in India we know that Modi took away the 500 and thousand rupee notes and it is a crisis! Well how much is a rupee? It's like 10 to 1 I don't know what a rupee is...I think something like that let me look it up while you do this but there's something like 10 and one so they took away the hundred dollar bill on the fifty dollar bill yeah yes and the problem is of course most people in india use cash

2:01:48 And this is a very nice drive as you're hearing that. This is a thing, this came from might have come from Euro News but their local correspondent and you'll see that the entire It's working. Get everyone to get a bank account, digital money here we go For a month now this has become the new normal Hundreds of people queue up for hours outside banks to withdraw money On November 8th with only a few hours notice The Indian government demonetized all 500 and 1000 rupee bills That's 86% of all currency in circulation Frustration is mounting among the people

2:02:27 Me or one of my three children, we queue up here every day. Yet sometimes we can't even withdraw a single rupee." I took leave yesterday to withdraw the credits so i'm back here today. Prime Minister Narendra Modi says the move is meant to target black money – a term commonly used for the country's parallel shadow economy In India, 78% of all transactions are done in cash. Most of them are undeclared. The new currency notes are gradually being injected into the system but not fast enough for the economy to function normally. The scarcity of notes also affects 300 million Indians who do not have bank accounts

2:03:07 Overwhelmed by the number of customers, this bank has set up a temporary branch outside to help people open new accounts. We the banks are overwhelmed by the influx of customers. There used to be about 100 clients per day now it's 5,000 Ever since my childhood, I've never had a bank account. But because of the many problems we have with cash right now... ...I got to know that bank accounts can now be easily opened on the streets so I came here." I'm keeping a very close eye on this. This to me is a test And I think it's going to be very successful for them because people are now getting cell phones to do banking. And of course, we know that we love electronic money. This is exactly where governments want you to be and the EU has been trying under the guise of well, the 500 euro note is really only used by drug dealers so we should get rid of that and they may get rid of the 100 at the same time in The Netherlands

2:04:08 There's some places you can't even pay with cash, it's PIN only. And hello Australia! Do you have a $100 bill in your wallet right now? I'm guessing not In fact i reckon it'd take the average Australian quite awhile to realise if they disappeared altogether...I certainly have no idea But UBS analysts say that we should turf the 100 dollar note and they throw down a couple of facts as to why First there are 300 million 100 dollar notes in Australia but But they're almost never used by the general population. Second, that means that there are almost three times as many $100 bills than five dollar bills by number and third 92% of all currency by value in this country is held in 50s and 100s Anyway so they're ratcheting it up in Australia And this is all going towards a common goal I was thinking the other day what kind of problems lack of cash brings along with it

2:05:03 Oh, yeah. You know? And so of course downtown here in Austin Second Street is kind of where I live and you know me but I see someone on the street. Yeah give them a fiber if they ask me for money I give them my now they got to give him a credit card and they have to have a credit cards You gotta have square, you gotta have a smartphone. Yeah you have to have a smart phone or computer of some sort... yeah that kind of stuff. To take your credit card so screw the poor! Yes and thats what they did in India and its working just fine Yeah, let them die. Let them die in the streets where they belong! That's what the Indians are a bunch of people that believe in generally speaking that Hindus believe in reincarnation and they're poor because there be reincarnated. They were jerk-offs when they were the other person I think this is sick. They're being recycled This is sick It really is And it's so wrong...I mean like paying with Apple Pay don't get me wrong but I have cash always

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2:12:54 Oh, I didn't know that. No, I just saw one. That was dynamite! She had a ring on her finger she had her hand... oh yes she's got the ring on the pointing finger fantastic yeah i saw that On the No Agenda Show, tech news John. You had some tech news I have a bunch of tech news actually let's play this start off with the Uber launch apparently Ubers launching illegally in San Francisco Inside an non-descript warehouse south of market a fleet of vehicles is shrouded in secrecy Tonight we watched as some of them emerged and drove around the block Turns out these are self driving cars from uber And they're about to start picking up customers on the streets of San Francisco

2:13:44 So says Dara Kerr of CNET who broke the story. This person familiar with the launch told me that they would be rolling out very soon I have since got further confirmation that the launch will be happening tomorrow A launch she says much like the one in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania in September where customers who need a ride just use the uber app and now there's a good chance a driverless car will show up And the self-driving cars will come I believe with a safety driver. In Pittsburgh, you're not alone in the car and I presume that they'll be doing the same sort of thing here in San Francisco." Most of the self-driving uber cars we've seen tonight are Volvo SUVs They've got a Whirly Gig on the top that is some sort of computerized device that... What did he call it? A whirly gig?!

2:14:30 Yeah, I like that. A whirly gig! I've got a whirly gig! SUVs they've got a Whirligig on the top That is some sort of computerized device that helps map the streets and Uber markings on the side I think it's pretty cool. I would probably try it Does it make you nervous to not have a driver? Not really. I mean, I'm assuming that they've tested it and they know what they're doing but there's a small risk, I'm sure yeah The California DMV tells KPIX5 that Uber does not yet have a testing permit issued by the state Quote 20 manufacturers have already obtained permits to test hundreds of cars on California roads. Uber should do the same

2:15:09 Oh man. So they're in violation of the DMV, apparently busted them too so you get those cars off the streets Hey you know I was reading uh... The Department Of Transportation this is tech news has proposed a new rule which would mandate vehicle to vehicle communications oh yeah so cars would talk to each other and they think this is a good idea Yeah, this was a Ford initiative as far as I know. And I first heard about it about five or six years ago. Ford does these meetups with the media and they described this. They thought at the time they thought self-driving cars was a loser even though they've changed their mind right? They think self driving cars is a loser and the real future was these networks network car so they all talking to each other just that's so now somebody I think it was a lobbyist. I don't know how they got this past but they this is the backstory

2:15:59 is these car companies. Oh, Professor Kaczynski would not be happy with this. I'm sure he wouldn't. This is so it's called V2V vehicle to vehicle advanced vehicle technologies may well prove to be the silver bullet in saving lives on our roadways seems unlikely that's what it's all about though and it's going to be...I mean it'll take years of course before we see it in cars but they're gonna make it a rule And it's going to happen. You'll have to have it and privacy, I mean read from their own document here is also protected in V2V safety transmission. Sure it is! V2V technology does not involve the exchange of information linked to or as a practical matter linked linkable to an individual and the rule would require extensive privacy and security controls in any v2v devices uh-huh sure you know why don't you just kill us all just had the cars driving around

2:16:55 Who needs the humans are the irritating part. So it well there you go so insofar as privacy is concerned this Yahoo breach which turns out to be another one that took place in 2013 that they never told their customers about leaving There's late word from yahoo tonight of a massive and stunning security breach The company revealing that hackers may have stolen the personal information for more than a month billion Yahoo users. The hack apparently occurred over three years ago but is just now being made public what's more the eye-popping breach is apparently separate from the major attack announced by the company just a few months ago NBC's Miguel Almaguer has late details

2:17:36 In what is one of the largest hacks in US history, today Yahoo confirms data from more than 1 billion user accounts was stolen in 2013. Private names, email addresses, telephone numbers, dates of birth even encrypted security questions and answers have been exposed. Oh man! Hey, is this after the... Is the sale done? This is information after the sale. It seems like information they keep bringing out so Yahoo can't be sold. I mean this is totally material adverse change in valuation. Oh yeah big time. Bigly, bigly. Maybe we should shut this thing down just shut it down. I'm sorry for the people who are working there but shut it down.

2:18:25 Flickr is worth more by itself probably than Yahoo. Yeah, that's true well the other ones they kind of screw up everything they buy so flicker is probably not worth as much as it used to be I have a little bit of tech news good I think this is not nefarious but its being reported as such just to show you that crap reporting from the Georgia Secretary of State and well you'll hear the reports, a local report. In an exclusive interview with visibly frustrated Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp confirmed 10 separate cyber attacks at different levels on his agency's network over the last ten months. It all traced back to United States Department of Homeland Security IP addresses. We're being told

2:17:36 In what is one of the largest hacks in US history, today Yahoo confirms data from more than 1 billion user accounts was stolen in 2013. Private names, email addresses, telephone numbers, dates of birth even encrypted security questions and answers have been exposed. Oh man! Hey, is this after the... Is the sale done? This is information after the sale. It seems like information they keep bringing out so Yahoo can't be sold. I mean this is totally material adverse change in valuation. Oh yeah big time. Bigly, bigly. Maybe we should shut this thing down just shut it down. I'm sorry for the people who are working there but shut it down.

2:18:25 Flickr is worth more by itself probably than Yahoo. Yeah, that's true well the other ones they kind of screw up everything they buy so flicker is probably not worth as much as it used to be I have a little bit of tech news good I think this is not nefarious but its being reported as such just to show you that crap reporting from the Georgia Secretary of State and well you'll hear the reports, a local report. In an exclusive interview with visibly frustrated Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp confirmed 10 separate cyber attacks at different levels on his agency's network over the last ten months. It all traced back to United States Department of Homeland Security IP addresses. We're being told

2:19:16 something that they think they haven't figured out yet. Nobody's really shown us how this happened. Kemp told us his office is cyber security vendor discovered the additional so-called vulnerability scans to his network's firewall after a massive mid November cyber attack triggered an internal investigation, The secretary of state's office manages Georgia's elections and most concerning for camp about the newly discovered scans. The timing? The first one on February 2nd happened the day after George's voter registration deadline The next one just days before the SEC primary. Another in May, the day before the general primary plus two in November, the day before and the day of the presidential election. It makes you wonder if somebody was trying to prove a point Last week DHS confirmed the large November 15th hack traced back to US Customs and Border Protection Internet gateway but Kemp says DHS's story about its source keeps changing First it was an employee at Corpus Christi now is a contractor in Georgia

2:20:12 And unsatisfied with the response he got from DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson this week, Kemp fired off this letter Wednesday to loop in President-elect Donald Trump. We just need to ask the new administration to take a look at this and make sure that we get the truth The people of Georgia are deserving to know that and really demanding it. Oh man! This is so dumb So here's what I conclude from this report. First of all, the way the guy uses in one instance as security scan, I think that's proper usage of what happened a proper term and then he says well they hacked into this and was the time it seems to me like maybe DHS was doing port scans security scans to see if you know these databases and other stuff were open or not doesn't seem that nefarious to me they should have alerted them and let

2:21:00 Yeah, but this doesn't see and it just support scanning. You know you have security scans companies do them all the time So I'm just a little annoyed by the reporting if anything well on well you should be Thanks now Now I want to drop Trump in the text Trump in the text. Now, here's an interesting thing that a friend sent me this from The Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal mapped out who is at this meeting that Trump had this meeting and his tower with all these tech CEOs he had I'll tell you who they were Jeff Bezos on Larry Page and Sheryl Sandberg it and Peter Thiel and Tim Cook Gina Rometti CEO

2:21:43 The funny thing is Marissa Myers wasn't there when I saw the back shot one of the shots. I thought it was her for sure because of the hairdo that Ginny had It was just way too, it's just unbelievable blonde hair and beautiful Oh, and I didn't I thought it'd be honest Marissa even though you have to show her face always more energy No, no Marissa. Oh Ivanka Joe Trump Derek and Brett anyway so they got this map now is a little side note here on the tech news yeah they have a map they showed worse air who was sitting at where to table which is valuable information because it shows you what Trump thinks of people but were they place them this was yes I'm gonna remember was next to Pence that's what I saw that's about all I saw

2:22:29 Yes, she was. Now here's the way...and I think she was in a good spot. This is kind of a long-winded way of putting this. I'm absolutely convinced that Donald Trump back in 1975 and 1976 did what everybody did in those years which was read Michael Korda's book Power How to Get It, How To Use it. I remember my parents reading this, I think. This is a very famous book. There was two interesting little fads in book selling that took place, one in the late 60s and one in the middle 70s. The late 60's books came out and they were all sex books. The Joy of Sex I think was the number one best seller at the time. And there were a slew of these books that just talked about different sex positions and how you can have sex

2:23:17 Standing on your head now you can have sex this way and that way and that was in the late 60s. Can I ask you a question? Why do you put so much emphasis on the word sex, you say it as if its dirty like sex! Yeah well these books were dirty I'll tell ya that. These books were really dirty but they're hot very hot sellers. By the time the mid 70's came along a slew of these power books came out how to become powerful, how to do this. And I think this had to do with the depression of the 70's where everybody felt so helpless and you know there was also the Vietnam War that was being resolved. There were a lot of things going on that would create a need for these books so people could read these books. The Corda book was absolutely dynamite! You can get a used copy of it. I would recommend everybody one of our listeners to get it. You will not regret it

2:24:05 One of the things in the book that, the only thing I actually remember almost verbatim is how to sit at a big table in a conference. Really? Yes! In fact... Because that gets you sex or what is it? It's just there are different spots that you want to know about. There are power spots, you don't want to sit in the weak side and I'll mention this as an anecdote my fit And I was actually always stunned by this that when at Mevio they had this meeting room with his big power table and Ron Bloom always sat at the absolute weakest spot

2:24:45 I don't think he ever read the Corda book. The weakest spot at a long table is the middle of the side, which is your short side there's long side and this is your short side. The short side in the middle With your back to the door is the most weak, wimpy useless side. Never sit there! What is the power position? The most powerful position is the head of the table at the other side looking towards the door The middle of that is the power position. In this case, what they called the children's table in the Wall Street Journal which was bull crap... They had sitting at the power end was I have no idea what the backstory is for this one guy which is Brad Smith, the president legal officer of Microsoft and sitting at a corner

2:25:35 facing the door at the right side, and then in the middle was Ivanka and Eric. And the other corner opposite of where Brad Smith was would be Donald Trump Jr.. This is the king and queen spot. So Ivanka- And Junior. And Eric, no. No Eric. Eric. Eric. Yeah. Junior would be second string but this is the power spot so those are the two most powerful they don't have to say anything because with the way Trump set this up he put himself in the long end yeah go ahead go ahead He put himself He put himself in the middle of the long end of, of the table. And you can be on either side to do this but he was on the side that was facing where all the cameras were going to be. That middle of the long side is considered the judgeship

2:26:29 If you sit at that spot, then you're the guy that can be the judge. You know in the middle your neutral because you got two ends, the weak side and strong side? Yeah yeah. Your'e the neutral guy who can sit there. That's a perfect spot for him. And across from him sitting next to him was Pence on one side and Thiel on the other. Oh interesting! Directly across Wait a minute Was he separating the 2? Because I'm sure Pence wanted to kill him because he is gay Nobody's sitting next to cook, which is funny. Directly across from Trump and directly across from those three, which represent like a Supreme Court with Trump in the middle and the other two guys supporting. Across from him would be kind of the other side of the power coin. And that means Trump was directly across from Rance Pribis- Oh yes! Which means he would be this number 2 guy in the pecking order. An then next to Pribis was Bannon on one side who is sitting next to Eric Schmidt

2:27:31 And then on the other side of Priebus was number 16, which is Kushner. The son of... Now the way that The Wall Street Journal has it he has the power guests which is bullcrap because these are not the power guest necessarily Schmidt and Number 15 was Chuck Robbins, the CEO of Cisco no no no no these are not the power guests. And on his, on the weak side again with their backs to the door are three of the cabinet members that did not have to speak or anything. That was perfect for them. Gary Cohn... I thought what's her face? Lean forward girl she had a powerful spot next to Pence She did and she was very close to him too very close

2:28:18 She was right next to Pence. Yeah, but it just felt like she was closer than normal. That was a power spot Larry Page was a power spot next to her and then Jeff Bezos Was kind of in the corner which is less of a power spot But that side of the tail is very powerful six seven eight and nine was teal cook And then the eighth guy Which is the CEO of Oracle or X's co-ceo of Oracle? And then Musk was on the kind of a very weak position and so was Let's see, Romadi I thought was weak. Oh the Microsoft CEO... Oh, Parviz, Parviz, Parviz, Parviz... Satyal Nadella, Nadella. Yeah he was an extremely- He was the weakest of all the corporate sponsors and so i was looking at this thing as uh this wasn't there's no doubt in my mind because of where Trump was. Wait wait wait! Where was Elon?

2:29:09 Elon was in a weak spot across from the Microsoft guy. He was just a token, wasn't he? Yeah borderline back to the door spot. Yeah he's just a token because I've even read on the face bag people going Wow, that's kind of cool. He brought Elon in as an advisor! That's great! None of these people were really advising anybody. But the point... when I saw this map initially and especially this poor interpretation of the map by The Wall Street Journal who apparently doesn't know what they're doing especially with this children's table nonsense at the most powerful part of the table technically

2:29:48 It was just ridiculous. And when I saw this, I said somebody and i'm sure it's Trump read that book and did the same thing I did. I remembered this part of the book where these tables are designed where you should sit how you should sit...and to this day when I go into a meeting I find a spot that is not weak And I sit there. I don't sit, generally don't sit at the head of the table and I will sit where Trump sat kind of thing that judge ship kinda spot but I tend to sit in In this spot, in this case I tend to put myself into a corner facing the door. In this case is a very powerful spot considered part of the children's table but not really. Brian Krasnich, the CEO of Intel was seated pretty much where I would sit. Well his stuff isn't everybody else's stuff. Yeah. So I have a little report on this

2:30:53 Which clears up the Elon thing, but of course also introduces the Jack Dorsey issue. We are looking live at Trump Tower where President-elect Donald Trump in about 90 minutes will now excuse me well now we welcome a who's who from the tech industry for a summit on jobs and the economy among those there will be top executives from IBM Amazon Apple Microsoft Google and Facebook some of whom have voiced concerns about Mr. Trump's vow to tighten immigration restrictions, especially on his criticism of the special visas used to lure the high-value foreign workers Silicon Valley relies upon and many of those leaders were very vocally opposed to mr. Trump during the campaign so David I'm gonna go with you there's reports that these people had a hard time being lured in to take this meeting Jack

2:31:38 back to where he's from Twitter not going. Very interesting given that Donald Trump has sort of made Twitter great again this year. Exactly, that is true but he has very definitive views against him I think it is interesting some people came back like Elon Musk remember at first he wasn't gonna do it He depends on the government for to help him support a lot of his projects No all of his projects Yes he's a government... His expertise is getting money from the government First of all, a great analysis John. I enjoy that immensely! That's very cool. Tell me about Dorsey... So this report said Dorsey didn't want to go? He didn't come? I don't know they was invited Well that's why I was wondering if you had any info and what did they really discuss No, I mean thought he wasn't invited because there was a battle between Trump and Twitter about using the Crooked Hillary emoji

2:32:33 It's outrageous if you think about it. Oh man, what a world we're living in! What are we arguing about here? So what do ya... I haven't really heard much analysis of what they talked about other than H-1B okay sure They must have talked about other stuff Well then I think the most honest analysis was that Trump called them in so they could kiss the ring and to show him who his boss And the only thing that I heard from it, that somebody recorded somehow was that he said you've got my phone number. You have a problem. You don't have to go through channels we hit. We have no structure that requires you go through channels just call me right? Yes yeah He did say that. Just email me Yeah or email or whatever. I think this kind of fits in tech news A bill that i stumbled across

2:33:26 The missing Alzheimer's disease patient alert program now. We have a yeah, I remember that I heard of this too I didn't well they tried they tried to do this in the 90s and now it's now it's a new bill and so this is to Help people with Alzheimer's because of course is horrible It's a horrible disease but here's how they propose to do it Inconstitution, here we go. Shall establish standards and practices this is section 302 and this is House Bill 4919 4901 niner

2:34:04 established standards and best practices relating to the use of permanent tracking technology where a guardian or parent in consultation with the individual's health care provider has determined that a permanent tracking device, or non-permanent tracking device is the least restrictive alternative to locate individuals as described below. And then of course this is for people who are confused and walk off but I find this a little dodgy Because it's... It is about implants, right? Well no. They are saying in the language specifically non-invasive types of tracking devices but that would just be a one small change down the road but they're talking about collection use retention of the data

2:34:53 Which of course would only be used by the government to prevent injury or death to the patient. Because it will be shared with the government, that's the idea. It is kind of like Lojack... there it is! It's Lojack for people and so when you need to activate your lost person then you have to call the authorities and then they activate the people Lojack I don't know how often this happens that people with Alzheimer's wander off and hurt someone else or die. It seems like a lot of work to help these people just so they want to get their foot in the door for shipping everybody. Yes, yes. That's what the paranoid screwballs have been saying for years but it's it's a great idea if you can ship the public and listen to this. The number of state local tribal local law enforcement public safety agencies that receive funding

2:35:52 include for the follow. So here's other entities that will be involved in this program, so training I have here again law enforcement companies of the headquartered local offices who provide the tracking technology that you use by state local and tribal law enforcement nonprofit organizations including their headquarters. They actually put tribal law enforcement in that list? Yes sir! And check this out The number of missing children with autism or another developmental disability with wandering tendencies or adults with Alzheimer's being served by the program. So they're talking about doing this to kids with, uh, autism which is pretty much every kid because you're on the spectrum, you see? Yeah! So we can have tracking devices for my autistic kid in case he goes nuts and wanders off and the government has it

2:36:53 Yeah, well that way you can track everything you do. I mean they kind of do that with cars now? I mean the fast-track thing for the Bay Bridges and around San Francisco Bay Area... tracking device, which I keep it. I don't keep it out but it is tracking you all over the place. It's just not... Oh yeah through the whole city attracts you absolutely. Yeah tracks you through the entire cities that it's not just yeah tracks going through the bridge and say your tolls paid and then you go but once you're in the city there are all these little inductors all over the place that just keep track of what car went by right

2:37:34 That's why they want everybody to use these things. I use it because i think it's really convenient but, I don't have it glued to the car...I put on the dashboard when I go through the bridge then I put in my glove box. Oh you should put it in your... I know! I should put it as an aluminum foil or a Faraday cage. You can just use your hat there is no problem unfold the hat and it'll work Yeah, alright everybody. I'm not dead nuts that is what we call tech iPhone my phone Ten minutes to go John Less than ten ten okay well let's see what we got together. I have something I have something I guess I get something this is

2:38:21 Just I just said, I didn't play it yet. Actually had two clips here because they didn't play yet Here is Andrea Mitchell talking about the Trump transition team and The Nazis are in against the climate scientists There was a very controversial questionnaire that their energy transition team sent out to everyone in the Energy Department at high levels Asking for the names of anyone who helped negotiate the Paris Climate change accord and it was basically Asking for top senior people to be identified, it was viewed by a lot of people at Energy and in the environmental world as potential hit list of people to get rid off. That's a controversial approach nobody can remember anything quite that intrusive from a transition team. Incredibly controversial Andrea! A 74 point questionnaire in addition to the questions you just mentioned it also asked

2:39:11 had energy staffers attended climate change meetings or briefings. So this really dug deep to try to get the heart of this issue and, of course, the concern is that there will be some blowback against those energy officials who have participated in these meetings." Drain the swamp I guess. Smoke them out! Maybe they just wanted to meet and see what information you had? I don't know it's always so... Oh no, they're trying to- there's a hit list. They want to kill him! I love the hit list bit Did you hear Denzel Washington on uh... he was interviewed about fake news? No i didn't hear Denzel It was pretty good! There have been a lot of blogs about this fake news You were the subject of a fake news story Well yeah what'd they say? I was running for president- no, no I voted- No, you said you were running for president! What did they say?! He switched your support from Hillary to Trump Yeah, yeah, yeah If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed if you do read it, you're misinformed

2:40:09 That's a great question. What is the long-term effect of two? Not a great question One of the effects is the need to be first not even to be true anymore So what are responsibility you all have to be to tell the truth not just to be first But it tells the truth we live in this society now where it's just first who cares get it out there We don't care who it hurts. We don't care who we destroy. We don't care if it's true Just say it sell it anything your practice You'll get good at include including BS I did like that's not his quote. I'm sure If you read the newspaper Now if you don't read on yeah, I've heard that before whose quote is that it's old Okay, just not new phenomenon all right

2:41:07 All right, I got an interesting anomaly. Okay tell me what you find peculiar about this 15 second advertisement okay it was a tide commercial Oh, that is a- oops. That is a form of uh... A washing powder for the uh... Washing machine Alright, Tide. Yeah, it's pushing the child towards multigenderism

2:41:44 Yeah, making the man the houseman. Yep! The man is the woman and the daughter becomes a son it's meant to confuse us profusely I presume? I'm guessing... I don't understand does it sell washing powders the question? I have no idea well I just found it peculiar. It's gender neutral, or more sinister the way you have it and I found it to be odd I thought it'd be odd. I wasn't offended by it because, I mean, I buy washing detergent myself and I will give a washing detergent tip for people out there who listen to Noah Jenner the show for these rare gems. Hold on a second. Ladies and gentlemen, a washing machine tip from John C. Dvorak. Okay so of course part of my job was meeting with in some situation with Colgate Palmolive

2:42:43 And they told, I've given this tip before on the show but I think people should know it. If you're going to buy detergents whether it's dishwasher detergent or laundry detergent or anything that you expect to clean something with always get the liquid. Always the liquid? Yes and here is the reason why was told What's happened over the years is some of this stuff that did the way laundry detergent was first discovered, was they let a bunch of the soaps that they made dry up and it became flakes. And so they developed laundry detergent. It was just a powder and you dump it in and you clean with it. But over the years... So basically a secondary product? There was a byproduct of the original?

2:43:26 Yeah, but what happened was they banned all the phosphates and other chemicals that used to be great cleaners that you could turn into powder. And why did they ban them? Was it killing people? No, it was environmental. It was the EPA and others because it was making like blooms of algae in lakes and it was causing you know water lilies to grow out of control. The phosphates are a food for plant life so there's a problem. So they banned all this stuff So they had to reformulate to produce these new chemicals that did as good a job of cleaning, but they could not make it into a powder. It wouldn't powderize so they started selling this idea of liquid and so liquid if you want to have anything that actually cleans unless you're in Mexico where they still sell the original stuff But if you want it in the United States If you want anything that actually cleans and works it has to be liquid now

2:44:26 First of all, thank you for this tip. That is... Let me just... Ladies and gentlemen John C. DeVore with a tip and only the tip as he is known Mr Tip Would you since you know Of course we talk about all kinds of products on the show Products that we like products that we don't like because we're not paid We don't have no advertisement I would like to know what is your liquid detergent of choice? I do like Tide. But knowing that these formulations are pretty universal, I'll buy anything if it's on sale so i use tide, I use era, I use all I use all the, I use the pens. But Tide, I believe to be probably one of the best formulations you could buy especially that ones and but there's a lot of different formulations and you have to kind of pick and choose which one do you want if you want the fake bleach that's in Tide which is actually an enzyme. Well I'll tell ya, I'm a Tideman myself Yeah And that is because for the three months I went to college in West Virginia my roommate Tyree Hamilton from Newark

2:45:31 black kid, he taught me how to wash my clothes properly. He also taught me how to moisturize. I'm going to tell you the black guys know how to de-moisturize and so and then he said Tide man nothing ever it's only tide there was no...I don't remember if we had liquid but i've been a tide man ever since yeah well you probably were using some powders uh no i never used the powders in school Huh you never took a powder never took a powder. Well yeah, we used to snort Diet pills you did really admitting for that It was it was West Virginia

2:46:12 Oh yeah, there you go. Yeah. Thank you all right thanks! My final clip for today we of course assert that the pharmaceutical industry pretty much keeps the mainstream media running and if you watch and you're under the age of 60 you're not going to be very compelled to buy any of the products that are advertised because it's all pharmaceuticals and it's usually for people who were over the age of 60 Nice to see it corroborated that it's all working just well in this report from HLN Headline News. One and six American adults are taking psychiatric drugs according to a new study, and researchers say most of them are antidepressants but what really worries them is the majority

2:46:55 The majority of the people in this study have been using the drugs for a long period of time. Experts say doctors and patients need to periodically evaluate whether they need to keep taking the drugs, people older than 60 seem to be taking the drugs the most. Duh! One in six? Why would anybody take these drugs? That makes you feel good. Why do people take drugs? It makes you feel good But, you know it just makes you lethargic and dumb and addicted. That's the problem. Yeah if not suicidal... Well yeah there is that with the shantics. Alright John I think that is about all I've got other than Wonder Woman has been fired from the United Nations gig. That's sad. Aww. They got rid of her. Sad about that. Oh! And The Stanford Band has once again been suspended

2:47:52 These guys are just looking for ways to get out of rehearsal. Right now, but you know what? You and I happened this time. I don't know what they did that actually was no specification and I have a final question for you as the resident food and drink expert is it just me No It's not just me But why has the American cuisine decided that it's a good idea to put fried eggs on everything I'm seeing fried egg on pizza, fried egg on french fries, fried eggs on hamburgers. Fried eggs everywhere and not like a dead fried egg no with yolky goopy...I mean who? What is this?! This is wrong! Yeah the fried eggs on hamburgers are old by the way that's been that dates back to God knows when era in the Pacific Northwest it was very common put a fried egg on a hamburger

2:48:48 I've noticed a few more fried eggs than usual when you see these guys in the cooking shows that put a fried egg on stuff that doesn't really want to fried egg on it. And so the goo gets all over, you know, he gets kind of a poor man's bear name sauce is what is not appetizing. It's not happening in California that I know off. Really, it's everywhere. You have to know that Tina the Keeper has a... I just call an ovum phobia she not a big egg lover. Oh interesting And of course what happened is Does she like bananas? Yes

2:49:26 But here's the problem. Does she like eggplant? Eggplant, that's another one. Yes she does. Okay yeah but here...but here's the sad thing so she you know and she likes Instagram a lot all the ladies like the Instagrams and you know she likes looking at baking, she likes looking at food stuff and then all of sudden there will be a video or photo of an egg on on a piece of food that you don't expect it Chocolate cake? But here's the problem. Because she keeps stopping and looking at it going, oh god why would you put an egg on that?! The algorithm is going, Oh! You clearly want more So she keeps getting egg photos and videos on every piece of food that is completely disgusting Welcome to the new era I told ya wouldn't end well It's not ending well

2:50:16 Alright, John. So we'll be back on Sunday and this will be... Wow! The show before the 88888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 And I look forward to our show. Until then, I would like to say that I'm coming to you as usual from downtown Austin Tejas in the Crackpot condo It's in the skyscraper and that is the capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 on the map if you're looking for it

2:51:05 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say men who celebrate Hitler's birthday have a bad hair day. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Adios Malfos Sorry, quote the Russians quote hacked our democracy and their madam. Sorry, quote the Russians quote hacked our democracy in there madams are close to WMD in Iraq which the intelligence community

2:51:49 I know this, and I can't thank the intelligence community for seeing their man about it. The interesting is that Russia, and I'm quoting now, hacked our search institutions. That this isn't Russia, and I'm quoting now, hacked our, sorry quote, the Russian branch of the party of Reagan taking place without the approval of SNS. They could not have really... What a douchebag! ...levels of decrumulence. That's speculation and hack institutions by among other things

2:52:33 I'm not denying it. Yeah You have to figure out, alright what do we do from here? And you're right. We've gotta get some jobs. I want some jobs!

2:53:37 We must. And we will much about be committed. What the hell did he say? I don't know, but we're with you! But resist, we must. We must and we will much about that

2:54:54 We must and we will be committed. We must, and we will must. I'm gonna blow my f***ing- Where with you? 3, 4 ,5 6 7 8 9 10 I think we lost them there. I want to sell some seeds! I got seeds! Tommy Lauren The young vocal and the rights rising media star It's... There is a little something that not right with it yet but just give me a little more time No no no keep going! I miss Lauren Your day is just a little bit long

2:56:18 Up there goes the Zephyr. What time is it? Who then? Adios, mofo!