Episode 871 · Sunday, 23 October 2016

New World Hackers

Global internet infrastructure buckles under an IoT botnet attack while leaked emails and family interviews provide a raw look at the Obama administration's final months.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 42 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 871

About this episode

A massive Distributed Denial of Service attack against DNS provider Dyn has crippled major internet platforms including Netflix, Twitter, and Spotify. Security firm Flashpoint and a group calling itself New World Hackers have linked the disruption to a botnet of compromised Internet of Things devices, specifically Chinese-made DVRs and webcams. This systemic failure highlights the inherent vulnerabilities of modern microservice architecture and the poor security standards of consumer electronics.

In the political sphere, WikiLeaks emails from the Podesta archives reveal internal confusion following the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens, with Hillary Clinton mistakenly referring to him as Chris Smith. Meanwhile, Malik Obama appeared on Sean Hannity's program to describe his estranged relationship with President Barack Obama, claiming the President has become stiff and formal. On the international front, the European Union faces a ratification crisis as the Walloon parliament in Belgium blocks the CETA trade deal with Canada, while the EPA faces scrutiny for delaying an emergency order in the Flint water crisis for seven months.

Distinctive moments include a breakdown of the annual Al Smith charity dinner where Maria Bartiromo and the candidates traded barbs, and a look at the UN naming Wonder Woman an honorary ambassador. The program features a knighting ceremony for Sir Abs and Dame Terry, alongside a musical remix of Donald Trump's bing-bong vocalizations to mark the upcoming ninth anniversary of the show.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

Confucius Say Opening, Irish Writer Anecdote

The program opens with a "Confucius say" joke regarding jackhammers making noise. An anecdote is shared about an Irish writer who provides these jokes and a listener's email criticizing the host's delivery style.

confucius say· email· irish writer· listener feedback· opening segment

00:00 I've seen a smart stove at Best Buy. Wait a minute. What? What does Confucius say today?

00:39 He says, uh, jackhammers make noise. Oh now okay just whenever back to the get back to this Confucius say I just want to see what people thought if i didn't open with it because somebody sent me a nasty note oh saying listen to Adam but no wait let me get this came in as an email from some gal never donates uh listen dad he said listen to adam that's how my friends and my fans speak yes that's exactly the tone Yes, that's what he said. They stink! Well let me confess... The guy was Irish. My Confucius say writer is Irish Let me just say, I missed it Hows that? Aha! Aha yes indeed So a small problem this morning It doesn't happen often but it does happen from time to time last night Christina is here

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

Christina Curry, Dutch TV Interview and Gun Range Visit

Christina Curry visited Texas to film a segment for a Dutch television show titled "At Home With The Stars." During the visit, the production crew filmed a trip to a shooting range where they used an AR-15 and a Glock 17. The interviewer expressed stereotypical European views regarding American gun culture and Republican politics.

christina curry· texas· shooting range· ar-15· glock 17· dutch television

01:35 Oh, this is what caused this problem. That's where it all starts the pod daughter is here because now what's happened as you're out of sync well let me tell you what's happened and then you can analyze me afterwards I can analyze before or after doesn't make any difference But go on. So I'm very proud of Christina, she scammed us, she pulled off a great scam A scam? You're proud of your daughter because she's a scam artist? Yeah! Great! I am Because you know, she loves visiting her daddy-o but because of cost we can only do this a couple times a year so some TV show was kind of like...I think it's called At Home With The Stars or something of this ilk She said alright dad i've got it all worked out

02:22 I'm going to come see you. They're going to pay for my trip, they're going to pay her money." They paid a good fee and so they interviewed us and yeah... So how is working for a living which is what you are describing a scam in any way? Well she just put together a good deal let's put it that way she did a good deal. Okay thats different. She put together..I just call that a cool scam But it was pretty funny because you know, they were interviewing us both and then I said well we should do something interesting with this. That's what just you know at my apartment which is one of the least interesting things and in fact looks nothing like any other star apartments you might have seen. You rented some art? No but instead I said yeah so why don't we go shooting? Why don't we go to the shooting range

03:10 Oh, the Dutch man. It was so funny. So and Christina is a pretty good shot too. So we had the AR 15 We had the judge. Yeah, I'm like and I put it I put the target at getting out to TV. So you know, I know how this will look. I put the targeted like three yards Which is, which is you know but they were filming me from behind so it may not look that close. And I put in the shotgun shells into the judge like... Like blew the whole target with a huge hole in it! Like that's how we roll in Texas and then here's what the interviewer kept saying So this obsession you have with guns? Oh I don't have an obsession with guns

03:49 He said, I've never had any guns but we're here in Texas and you have the right to defend yourself. I prefer to do that with this and I like to go make sure I know how to use them." Well then you were a Republican! I said no what are you talking about? What?! Yeah yeah well we all know Republicans love guns and Democrats hate them. Like okay... And this just kept coming back so are you voting Donald Trump or are you a Republican? Why does it have to do with anything? Well you like guns Wow, you know you guys really got problems there in Europe. I'm pretty sure it's not just Republicans who have guns It was odd But no, I'm sure we the Dutch will be appropriately horrified

04:37 That's pathetic. It really is, I mean it's just massively pathetic! Well it's mind control they really don't understand do not understand the how the second amendment works and I don't expect them to anyway so Christina's here... Besides that point that's just beside the point the point is that they're parroting some sort of memes and some stereotypes some horrible stereotypes and by the way the liberal part of the world supposed to be against stereotyping but that sounds like there's all stereotyping. All of it! Yes, correct. It's a poor it said porridge is deplorable almost Deplorable yeah and you know and actually I was gonna invite Sir Jean to come along because he has all the fun toys But you know they couldn't they got Reds the indoor range like okay? We'll just go we'll just do three shots boom boom boom. They'll be all be done oh And also I made the interviewer who of course never held a gun and made him shoot a Glock 17

05:36 It's just so funny to see someone who despises the whole idea of holding it like Hope you only had one shell and a thing no I know he emptied the empty the magazine Okay So freak out, then they start shooting all over the place nah if that was not I was ready to like slam this guy forward If any dumb happen But he got through it. Anyway, so Christina's here and last night I went until 2 a.m.. It was like I'm just gonna get all my clips done so I can get up at 8 And then you know and leisurely get everything together and So we go out we get a coffee to come back now is 9 and okay? I got two hours, and we're good to go and then my My Mac says oh You know you run out of space this has been a recurring themes like I don't you know what I'm just gonna delete everything in downloads

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Syria Chemical Weapons, UN Report Discrepancies

A United Nations report claims Syrian government forces used chlorine gas in barrel bombs in Idlib during March 2015. Skepticism is expressed regarding the technical feasibility of using gas in barrel bombs dropped from helicopters. The report is characterized as relying on circumstantial evidence to frame Bashar al-Assad for war crimes.

syria· idlib· chemical weapons· united nations· barrel bombs· aleppo

06:32 and delete empty trash. Like, okay let me record these last two or three clips I got. Wait a minute where did all my clips go? Yeah they were in downloads so... I deleted them all and had to reconstruct and re-record as many as possible which of course means that you're sort of time saving thing of doing things in advance which by the way I recommend against actually cost you more time yeah absolutely like I screwed Got screwed and of course the ones the ones that I'm missing you know those are the clips of the day. That's that's a thing I'll give you clip of the day already Thank you, I lost the clip This Clip is not gonna go away cuz it's gonna keep coming up on Russia today because nobody else seems to want to want to discuss this but they don't know who it is American or

07:26 possibly allied or even maybe Iraqis, outside of Kirkuk or whatever it is. There was like 50 miles... Kirkuk. 50 miles from there, there was a funeral that was bombed killing a bunch of women mostly women and a bunch of kids. And now everyone's talking about it being a war crime because it had nothing to do with anything. It wasn't listed as an area where there was even anybody there to be blown up. And Russia Today guys have been harping on this in every headline news There's not too much information available on it, but the one thing they say is that they cannot find anybody in the mainstream media in the United States even mentioning this event because we're promoting

08:13 war crimes against the Russians and Syrians over in the other country. In fact, I have a clip from the United Nations if you want to hear it briefly this is from Euronews where something that we have debunked had not just us but has been debunked multiple times came up with those exact same words John war crime Listen to this. Investigators have said Syrian government forces were behind a third chemical weapons attack last year in a report to the UN Security Council military helicopters are said to have dropped barrel bombs containing chlorine gas in Syria's northwest province of Idlib in March 2015 The toxic chemical can kill by burning the victims lungs drowning them in the resulting body fluids

08:57 The finding sets the stage for a showdown between Russia and Western UN Council members over how to respond. In addition to the bombing in Idlib, an earlier report also accused Bashar al-Assad's forces of two other chemical weapons attacks The report follows the UN Human Rights Chief's condemnation over the crisis in Aleppo. Describing the city as a slaughterhouse, Zayed Arad Al Hussein said that siege and bombing of eastern districts constituted crimes of historic proportions." Now we've already been through this thing! This was not barrel bombs from helicopters And why would they put the gas in the barrel bomb? It makes no sense. The whole thing makes no sense, I think I thought about this... Actually, I got the report from end of August and marked up a couple things because it was filled with very circumstantial evidence and that's also one of the things I deleted so i'll get that back on Thursday. I'll fill that out because the report was actually fun to read from Well here is how I'm seeing it

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Mosul Offensive, Alleged Funeral Bombing Censorship

Russia Today reports on a bombing at a funeral near Kirkuk that allegedly killed numerous women and children, an event the mainstream U.S. media has not covered. Meanwhile, Defense Secretary Ash Carter arrived in Baghdad to assess the Mosul offensive against ISIS.

mosul· kirkuk· ash carter· funeral bombing· russia today· censorship

10:01 There was a big kerfuffle over the red line in the sand or whatever it was at Obama. They used this to get, and then they did then the phony baloney gas attack took place which was debunked over and over again by sources all around the world these are not the right missiles that were too far away from any place where they had this gas it was the wrong gas and everything in between but thats that meme has stuck around because Because that's the only time Obama actually made some sort of what we're gonna attack it. Yeah, we're gonna kick your ass exactly so I think they keep revisiting the same idea to get as so we can have an excuse well Well, I was being nice the last time and so I died the line in the sand is still there We can't take it anymore this gas is gonna continue. We have to bomb you know Assad directly so

10:55 So so so I keep saying so but this seems to me to be what's going on and that's why they the Western media. I had a clip from PBS which actually still have where I thought they were gonna go into it because there were this is them This is kind of the PBS weekend Middle East update, and I thought they're gonna do very last clauses and then it's just I was, ah here it is they're gonna talk about this bombing of the funeral and no. Oh okay. Nobody has talked about it. Ash Carter arrived in Baghdad today to assess the progress of the Iraqi government offensive to retake Mosul from Islamic State militants. Carter spoke with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and US commanders but al-Abadi turned down Carter's request to let coalition partner Turkey

11:45 and for the past two years. A hundred miles away in the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, Iraqi officials say their troops have repelled ISIS militants who killed at least 80 people in an attack yesterday to retaliate for the Mosul offensive. Air strikes by Russian or Syrian warplanes on the divided city of Aleppo in northern Syria resumed today after only a 2 day pause in fighting.

12:28 I thought that's when they were going to go into this murder of these, uh, this war crime a bomb and a funeral. And no, it just is absolutely astonishing in the Russian TV guys who can watch anybody who watch any version of head headline news and this leads the news is why has this been censored? Well, there's a lot I got a lot of intelligence stuff in this morning which I need to talk about and I have pictures here. You probably put those in the show notes In Mosul right it right in Mosul US troops US troops on the front line complete It's the 101st airborne one of hundred and first airborne And they're there you know we can't have that be known and We also now know

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

WikiLeaks, Hillary Clinton Emails and Chris Stevens Death

WikiLeaks emails from the Podesta archives reveal internal communications regarding the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. In one email chain, Hillary Clinton refers to the deceased ambassador as "Chris Smith," a mistake that went uncorrected by aides Cheryl Mills and Victoria Nuland.

wikileaks· john podesta· hillary clinton· chris stevens· benghazi· cheryl mills

13:16 from the latest WikiLeaks, there is a just a genius email from Hrod17 to John Podesta where she and there may have been some classified intelligence in this it's you know like four paragraphs really long paragraphs explaining exactly what we're doing exactly who were giving weapons to You know, what kind of weapons? Why we decided to give heavy artillery to the Kurds, the KRG despite not doing that previously. It's a treasure trove to understand what they're thinking and we're just all over there and we're not train-and-assist, we're frontline! I got pictures here it's unbelievable so we can't be talking about... By the way you want to hear the Intel community buzz today? What?

14:07 that there is some email or some document, I don't know if it's a WikiLeaks or not. That is without a doubt proof and I'm just reading verbatim that the emails on her server and her BlackBerry are the direct reason for Ambassador Chris Stevens death This is the intelligence community who we have lots of people in And along with that goes really horrible horrible Wikileaks email where Hillary Clinton, you're gonna love this I'm going to bring it up. It's email ID 19610 from H that HDR 22 in this case but that's Hilary to Mills and Newland and Sullivan Cheryl told me the Libyans confirmed his death should we announce tonight or wait until morning? But here is the kicker subject line was Chris Smith

15:06 So they didn't even... and the whole email chain, they talk about Chris Smith instead of Chris Stevens. Now there was a Sean Smith who was killed but Hillary knows her member her best friend in the universe Chris Stevens, her friend Ambassador Chris Stevens who she in the email now calls Chris Smith Huh And then Newland doesn't correct her on it she doesn't know no one corrects her you mean Stevens? No so Besides this, this Danville email which is really disrespectful. I mean you can make a mistake but shouldn't someone just on that chain say oh i'm sorry it's not Smith its Steves? Well maybe there was just nickname like WeDo. Then they would have had gay dude or something like we do would be funny no this is not funny it was just dumb

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

David Goodfriend, Fox News Clash Over Russian Hacking

Democratic consultant David Goodfriend appeared on Fox News to discuss WikiLeaks and the Clinton Foundation's role in uranium deals. Goodfriend repeatedly attributed the leaks to Vladimir Putin and the Russian government, leading to a heated exchange with the anchor regarding the lack of "fingerprint evidence" for Russian interference.

david goodfriend· fox news· bill hemmer· wikileaks· vladimir putin· uranium one

16:01 So I'm expecting something to happen, I guess if we go based on what Julian Assange did yesterday at the embassy. Man this guy is boring! He is boring It's unbelievable how boring he is and he really never got anything Yeah it's a shame that he was boring If he was any less boring they'd have shot him. If he were actually interesting...I think you would be tolerated more if your'e boring There was a pretty funny interview, I got two part clips regarding Assange. So this is... what's his guy? His name is Hemmer or something and it may be explained in the opening. He's on Fox and he's a consultant. He has worked for the Clinton campaign. Now we all know that when someone brings up a WikiLeaks email what do we do? How do we answer that?

16:56 that they're not confirmed or yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's their face stolen by the Russians. Yes. By the Russians now you can do that like Donna Brazil fell apart doing it but she still kind of kept her cool this guy he just it's unbelievable how he's protesting the validity, because his emails are also among them. And it is just beautiful to hear how people will do anything to lie. New email leaks putting her at the center of a negotiation for $12 million from the King of Morocco David, good friend former deputy secretary to President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton's reporter. David how are you? Good morning to you. I don't know who wins in 18 days but the Clintons can raise a lot of money defend us Well i've had my emails to John Podesta posted on WikiLeaks and I've noticed some discrepancies myself. I'm pursuing the right channels to deal with it

17:49 But I think we have to talk first and foremost about the source of all these emails. At least he stops him, I thought that was it. So you're saying that you've got emails that are now public and you say they're not accurate? Yeah! I don't believe so... And i'm pursuing those uh..I can't talk about it here on Fox but i'm pursuing appropriate channels. This is a new one John We gotta remember this. You know, i'm pursing appropriate channels That's all you gotta say This is the extension of I can't talk about it because it's a legal thing. It's the Donald Trump defense, so I'm under audit. I can't do that. Yeah, I'm being audited man! Same thing. Well but no, but its absolutely related to this. Yes Bill, yes. Let's get to the chart. We have to talk about the source of emails. David, this has not been denied

18:36 Hillary Clinton negotiated, Ahmad Abedin is on the emails talking about the exchange. Ultimately she did not attend but her husband and daughter did Right so as I say Vladimir Putin's email dump is not exactly where I would go for my information Thank You Mother Russia Thank you, Mother Russia. I wouldn't go to Vladimir Putin for an email dump." So I thought that was pretty good. No wonder we've never seen this guy before he's an incompetent on the media! Wait until you hear the second part of this which is...I cut out a whole bunch in the middle and then went to the end and it just got better and this guy- He went off the

19:14 He just went off the deep end and he's so frustrated about really not, you know, just lying I guess. He just freaks out! How do you allow Russian companies to get the contracts for the uranium deposits all over the world? Oh now you don't like Russia?! You liked them when they give Donald Trump documents but now you don't like Russia? Subtle though what he says there in the background... You like it when they give Donald Trump documents hmm That's interesting. That's probably exactly how they feel about it. Giving us, giving our shit to them man! It's not cool Vlad. You like them when they give Donald Trump documents but now you don't like Russia? I don't like the fact that we allow these Russian companies with direct ties of Vladimir Putin get access to uranium deposits overseas and some in this country as well. I can't believe what i'm hearing...you love Russia when they give you emails and now you say you hate Russia when they get contracts. Get it straight Bill

20:09 You love Russia when they give you emails. This is the beginning of the end for this guy I'm not saying anything about Russia, what i am saying is that the fact that the Clinton Foundation helped negotiate these deals While she was Secretary of State These companies in Russia were given access to uranium mines My question for you David is this Show me the connection Is that ok? I'm going to say this again, Bill, until i am blue in the face. If you can show me that an official action was taken in exchange for a contribution

20:47 Look, maybe this is something you'll understand. Donald Trump in a business deal... Not condescending at all. Donald Trump in a business deal would say make a contribution to my charity as part of the business deal Do not want answer the question? I just did Bill show me the official action You can't! And you know what Bill This guy 12? Oh yeah this like high school lunch table Now he's gonna do the worst possible thing You cant and you know what bill You can try to help Donald Trump all you want in this campaign. This is not about Don. That's exactly what you're doing! David, this isn't about... No it's exactly what you're doing Bill I want you say that you'd like put your thumb on the scale for Donald Trump because he's gonna- You gotta say it! Admit it! Admit it! You're shilling for Trump? Admit it!! He's gonna lose anyway but might as well say it Are you finished?

21:31 Yeah, let's hear it Bill. This is about America. Oh now you... okay how about the Russians spying on our political process? Say on the air that you don't like Russia trying to interfere with our elections! Certainly I do not but you don't have proof that Russia is doing this I know intel- 17 CIA, 17 national security agencies. I love this one! 17 CIA intelligence agencies... you know the thing that Hillary said. Agencies have said? David Are they lying to you no more than they do Bill? My turn. You know more than a national security apparatus knows? David Yes Thanks for coming on. It may be true ultimately that Russia's responsible for this

22:11 but we don't have the fingerprint evidence that that's the case. Now wait for the kickers... So you're smarter than the National Security Agency? I did not say that! Please don't put words into my mouth. Well then are they right or wrong, Bill? David Goodfriend from Washington. We will find out about that in time Yes and we'll find out about it at the voting booth too, Bill Thank You David Enjoy your weekend What was that at the end?! That was that guy Did you hear that?? It sounded like a woman. No, he goes He got beat down by this Fox guy have a great weekend I think he felt that he held his own But it was like all these days they just throws every one of these talking points out

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

Two Obamas Theory, Secret Laws and FISA Court

A theory is posited that two versions of Barack Obama exist to handle different presidential duties, potentially enabled by secret laws. The discussion references the secrecy of the FISA Court and National Security Letters as evidence of a hidden legal infrastructure in the United States.

barack obama· body double· fisa court· secret laws· national security letters

22:56 And then yell you're smarter than they are always one of them. Yeah, I mean there's a bunch of them and he uses them all as best He can but I just That just sums it all up sounds like a woman to me so the woman it was him huh? I know ain't that beautiful It's pathetic yeah well There's a lot of that going on Let me see well I'm gonna hit you with this one of the things that we've asserted on this show is And you have bought in, you've bought into really big and uh... You maintain and we see this more often that there are two Obamas. Yeah! Right? All these guys have to have a duplicate. It finally came out that George Bush had a duplicate Was that a factual report or something like that? I think so. I think it was the fact they verified it Did Snopes verify it? I don't know about Snopes. Whatever the case, and I said that before

24:00 It seems like a smart thing to do. Yeah, and... Or to-do? To-do is the smart thing to do. And we've often called it, well that's probably the other Obama and let's remember that during his first inauguration and his second inauguration there were two inaugurations both second ones done privately and our assertion could be that was perhaps the other Obama who was also sworn in to be able to do stuff to do presidential actions. Now, if we wanted to... And let's bring something into this conversation that I haven't brought in before based on my two Obama theory. There was a lot over the last, I'd say at least the last since 2000 or maybe before then there has been a lot of secret laws. This country is filled with secret laws.

24:58 There's just a lot of secret laws that are being passed and I believe there may be some sort of law that was passed that allows for the second Obama to be around here and there. Oh, where do these secret laws show up? They have to be documented somewhere! Not that I know of. Well, how do... then you need to explain it? It's like that court that they use for... FISA Court? FISA Court and the rules are secret. They don't know anything about this court. Right now of course we don't. You're not allowed to. No. So there could be some... well that's not necessarily a rule but somewhere there is a court perhaps who makes decisions that are secret

25:37 It wouldn't surprise me. I think there's been discussions about this." Okay, well... I mean those security letters... Yeah national security letters yeah. Those things are kind of creepy. Okay well we don't have proof of it but i obviously am willing to believe um but who would know the president very well not better than anyone but very well I would. Well, I think his mother-in-law is going to get the big pension for hanging out and shutting up with a big pension. That seemed apparently according to Snopes that's false she actually is getting the pension! What's false then? Well that story may not be true. What story? The $160,000 retirement that came from a source that was not reliable now found out

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Malik Obama, Sean Hannity Interview on Brother's Change

Malik Obama appeared on Sean Hannity's program to discuss his estranged relationship with his half-brother, President Barack Obama. Malik described the President as having become "stiff" and "formal," claiming he is only allowed 15-minute visits at the White House.

malik obama· sean hannity· barack obama· white house· family relations

26:31 Okay, so it's not...but she is getting a retirement. She is getting pension? I don't know that there's no...I don't know. But anyway let's not digress. It could be 159 the way Snopes operates. That could be true! No, I think that his half-brother would at least know a little bit about him right? The guy that Trump brought into the debate for some unknown reason Oh well the reason is known and although he doesn't say it everything he says points to to Obama He showed up on Sean Hannity, of course. Who else you gonna use? I cut out the dumb Hannity bits and here we go. And joining us now is the president President Obama's half-brother Malik Obama How are you sir it's an honor to meet you Likewise You doing okay? I'm pretty good yeah Tell me about your relationship with your brother how is it? It used to be good but since he has become the president

27:26 It's changed. Why? I can't reach him You didn't even talk to you Well we talked but it is hard, you know, I can't reach him Have you been in the White House? I've been there yes How many times Almost every year once a year. What do you get invited to Christmas party? I have to fight together He's my brother so he once said we gotta be our brothers keeper didn't I know, you know disappointed in him I am I Am at least if I'm the president My brother gets to come whenever he wants he has a free pass That's just the way family is. Well, I know John F Kennedy he had Robert K's brother right there. Yeah You know so you're hurt Just disappointed yeah and you know how to thought that it would have been different Your brother will never talk to me He actually talked about with me a lot when he was running for office and even said he wanted to send some guy To beat me up

28:24 Tear me up. Oh, well before you knew it was running for office he was everybody's friend You think the offices changed them? Let's change them. I think has been sucked into that matrix. Yeah You think sir nothing so yeah, what would what is a different guy he was a different guy He was you know humble and he would listen here to build a soft side of him But now you know He's just too formal and stiff. Even when you're alone? Even when we are alone, there is not much that we can talk about that is really heart brother to brother It's too formal it's like he's busy maybe

29:11 He's got this line of people, all these people you know want to see him. So it would have been nice if let's say maybe I could go and have dinner with him You know and then... So when you do see him how long are you talking to them for? Maybe 15 minutes That's it 20 minutes That's gotta be disappointing This makes total sense to me Like, this is a different guy. This guy's been sucked into the Matrix! It's possible the other Obama is tied up and trying to ride himself out of a bunch of ropes Don't you think it's totally possible that the other Obama sitting there is like Mr President we have uh... The other Obamas brother here? He's like oh geez that guy alright bring him in After 15 minutes get me out of it

29:56 Yeah, ring yeah call myself. I'm just saying he his own half-brothers like I don't know this guy He's a completely different guy. I don't know him you got sucked into the matrix. Oh He's stiff Is everybody's best friend? Yeah fabulous oh I like it. Well, since he is kind of a funny Obama can tell jokes he can relax. He seems to be funny could be everybody's best friend. I think that Obama if we're going to go into two Obama theory the real Obama who is this guy's brother and not their guys all plastic surgeon to look like Obama? He doesn't want to see his brother because he knows his brothers boring or you know God, you know this guy shoes have all my time. I don't have time for this bull crap

30:48 You take care of it gives it to the other Obama's and you deal with them This stiff one says I don't know this guy is stiff Yeah, of course not because the other guy And he does any has no qualms about ending the conversation cuz he doesn't know this character from Adam. Yeah yeah Confirming the theory yeah anyway so So, uh... Where do we go from there? Oh well we can go many ways. I wanted to say actually I'll play two clips and then want to talk about it We had the big Al Smith dinner. Oh, you know okay You know I purposely avoided that I watched a couple of clips Hold on hold on Let me finish what i'm going to say No let me finish no I started the topic let me finish No I gotta say something Okay age before beauty Age before beauty please You go ahead

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Al Smith Dinner, Media Bias and Maria Bartiromo

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton delivered comedic speeches at the annual Al Smith charity dinner. While mainstream media focused on the booing during Trump's set, the hosts argue both candidates were equally "mean" and that the routines should be viewed in their full context. Maria Bartiromo's appearance at the event also drew significant commentary.

al smith dinner· donald trump· hillary clinton· maria bartiromo· comedy routine

31:45 I found, here's what...I watched the entire Al Smith dinner. Clinton spoke for about 18 minutes Trump for about 15 minutes. I watched both in entirety and I decided we should not play any clips from this because what the mainstream media has done—and i just have two clips of them about it not even the clips themselves or what took place They, I mean it is so skewed the way they picked clips and how they talked about the booze etc. When you see both of them in context...

32:27 They were both pretty good and pretty funny, and not at all how they were discussed. So for us to pull out clips would be just as bad because you really have to see them- Well that's great! Because I got no clips... I don't have any clips either That's what i'm saying You HAVE TO watch them in their entirety NO CLIPS In full context? You gotta watch it in full context Trump is a GREAT comedian Except the last five minutes I think he was still telling jokes But they just sucked. You know, it can happen you can hit a nerve somehow and then the next three jokes are just not gonna work because they're meant to build on the success of the previous. Yeah And that's where he got booed- Hillary got boo'd too! She was mean as well in fact The Hillary speech is probably more entertaining to watch

33:22 And I also think that Trump, in his jokes that he made. He was not going to sell out to the establishment and say oh i'm just gonna be funny and lighthearted and self-deprecating the whole time no we also said hey you know screw it this woman's no good But here's what NBC was saying about what they saw. And before we play that clip, I want to mention one thing... Everybody has to realize that both of these comedy routines were professionally written by comics! Yes and both of them admitted that actually during their speeches If weren't sad before, I mean we can be officially depressed even a charity dinner to benefit Catholics Catholic charities it devolves

34:05 involves a little bit. And I talked to one senior Trump advisor who said, why did he bomb so badly? Why did he bomb? He didn't bomb and why don't you just mention the Trump's senior Trump advisor by name lady. I said, why did he bomb so badly? Well it was bad but there are not a lot of funny people at Trump Tower The delivery from both of them had a mean edge to it. It was worse with Trump because he got booed. Not only did he get booed but in a room where what we consider his crowd was. Absolutely, I mean you got a lot of sort of wealthy people who might be Republicans traditionally He actually killed it. At the end, eh! His jokes fell flat his timing was off and it didn't work out they were just as mean as the other ones and of course he had some really funny self-deprecating ones but again it all has to be heard in context CNN of course took it one step further I you know is there such a risk here sounding partisan? But I must tell you that was a real difference between the two Donald Trump was very much himself but he... he didn't seem to know the difference between being lighthearted and heavy handed

35:08 And, you know this is supposed to be a light-hearted kind of occasion. And he had several jokes that were sort of pretty tough jokes about her. You know basically calling her corrupt, that the emails show she pretends like the Catholic Church and that sort of thing He was I thought particularly good when we talked about Melania That was very funny and humorous in the right spirit But I think there was a reason that the booze were there and that was it that he went over the line on several occasions She was a much more traditional. I know people don't necessarily like tradition anymore She was much more of the traditional kind of speaker in at the at the Grand Iron Club in Washington their dinner They say you should sing but never burn hmm, and her jokes had much more of this singing quality I think Donald Trump

35:55 Missed the self-deprecating part. He's been there maybe his maybe his joke writers haven't been there But I think it was sort of uncomfortable to me just watching it. I don't know how you guys feel but I felt Trump couldn't get away from the from the nastiness about her Didn't joke about himself very much. I used to like Gloria Borger over at CNN, but not after I heard that He had a whole, his first seven minutes was self-deprecating. These people are full of shit and lying and I doubt they even saw it! They only saw the clips themselves. Well, they may or may not have seen it but this group of people that we're discussing... Yeah? ...they always going to see what they want to see. Of course! You're hearing bias both of those 15-18 minute clips from The Show Notes I encourage you to watch them because it's entertaining also from Hillary Clinton who was also mean It was entertaining and pretty darn good But to be honest The best part about that dinner

36:56 Maria Bartiromo in every single shot where their boobs hanging out and she had those long sleeve gloves up into her elbow. And she had earrings that were dangling onto her shoulders, I could not stop watching these fantastic a lot of people on the network commenting on her. That was fantastic go Maria And then the contrast, you got to get a better gig. She used to be top dog moving her way up and she's a second stringer. Yeah well here she is the second string on Fox Business News now we know that president did a big thing about Obamacare I had a couple of clips from that those are gone

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Zeke Emanuel, Obamacare Defense on Fox Business

Obamacare architect Zeke Emanuel appeared on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo to defend the Affordable Care Act. Emanuel blamed Republicans and Marco Rubio for the withdrawal of major insurance companies like Aetna and UnitedHealth from the exchanges, while Bartiromo highlighted rising deductibles and costs for consumers.

zeke emanuel· obamacare· maria bartiromo· health care costs· insurance premiums

37:32 But he had a big thing about Obamacare. And of course, we already identified that Zeke Emanuel one of the architects of Obamacare is out on the circuit doing very poorly trying to explain what's going on with Obamacare? So here's Maria and now she's in her money honey spot on Fox Business grilling Zeke Emanuel about Obamacare You already know the guy's gonna fall apart, but it's just beautiful. And look I agree! The fact of the matter is we cannot be... Did he just do a double whammy? And look! Yeah. I agree! The fact of the matter- He looked. And look! I agree! The fact of the matter is That's perfect! That's how you start everything

38:14 That's the best way. And look, I agree! The fact of the matter is we cannot be too vigilant on health care costs We constantly have to do things to bring them down and the fact is Obamacare has actually allowed Medicare to do a lot of innovative things to keep health care costs under control. Introducing new payment models to move away from fee-for service, that is going to be the key method for keeping health care costs under control." I'm getting tweets as you're speaking and one is just coming in... uh... we cannot afford it i pay eleven thousand dollars a year with fifteen thousand dollar deductible fewer doctors in florida take obama care what do you say that how come fewer and fewer doctors are even accepting obamacare? I mean look what happened with united health, look at these insurance companies etna they're bowing out. They're losing a billion dollars on the plan well first of all when you go into a new market every business expects to lose some money at the start hold on

39:14 That's bullcrap. That is total bull crap! It says, oh it's some money a billion dollars. Everyone expects to lose some money that's how business works I don't think this guy has ever been in business at all No no that is exactly not how business works What a douche now so that's bullshit That's the first point The second point is that the busines became a lot more uncertain because of Republicans In particular Marco Rubio eliminating some of the risk corridors and protections for the insurance companies I love how he instead of saying Marco Rubio made it impossible for the government to compensate those sum losses that every business has, because that's what he is saying. Look everybody, every business has some sum losses and because we couldn't compensate those sum losses with government money i.e., taxpayer money

40:03 It sucks. Republicans! but for taking away some of the protections that made it work better. Yes, it is the Republicans' fault for taking away those risk corridors and that has had... That sounds very creative to me! A new study finds... No, its just a fact! It's not a fact. Look, we're speaking to big... Yeah! Go Maria. This is all the time they are blaming the Affordable Care Act on the fact that they can't hire employees They can't afford it They're going bankrupt You've seen all of the major insurance companies say I'm not gonna be in the program anymore First of all that's no true It's not all the major insurance company Well and second of all UnitedHealth and Humana What's left? Blue Cross? What else is there

40:59 uh... kaiser okay okay second of all it also is easy to blame obama care for business decisions they want to make that is a very easy thing to do because obamacare as you know is not popular despite the fact that it's done so much good for the country. It has been bad PR but not bad on substance and its easy for insurance companies to blame someone else than their own business decision I thought that was the whole point we are tied into paying and they're tied into insuring. Except no, they are not tied in! This thing's a disaster Yeah? Oh yeah... oh yeah And it's going to be difficult to untangle it You mean repeal and replace Well then I can be able to replace that for sure They probably won't be able to repeal Really So there is just running a lot of interference everywhere That's for sure Yeah, I have to say

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

Dyn DDoS Attack, Internet of Things Vulnerabilities

A massive Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack targeted Dyn, a major DNS provider, causing outages for sites like Netflix, Twitter, and Spotify. The attack reportedly utilized a botnet of "Internet of Things" devices, including webcams and DVRs. Local news coverage of the event is criticized for technical inaccuracies regarding "smart stoves."

ddos· dyn· internet of things· fbi· malware· smart stoves

42:03 Alright, you want to talk about the hack? Which one? Well there's a... Oh you mean the DDoS? You mean the distributed denial of service attack? Yeah. Okay so you said hack I'm okay yes okay. We call it a hack. All right all right yes well also here this thing we could do it as tech news no let's not nah I don't want to hear the jingle Let's play first hack reports from ABC. Kansas, Alex thank you and the other breaking headline this Friday night a major attack on the internet the newest attack just a short time ago affecting Americans coast to coast tonight The FBI and Homeland Security taking this very seriously sites like Netflix Amazon eBay all affected And look at this map tonight The areas in deep red there are the worst affected

42:57 Several waves of malicious attacks today. Hold on, how come they don't have any cyber sounds when they show the map? What's going on is this ABC? Yeah They should have cyber sounds when uh...when they do that I don't know if they-I think this came in late as a late story so i dont think they got to produce it well So they couldn't make the noises Uh huh It's okay ill provide for them No problem Several waves of malicious attacks today and ABC's David Curley tonight from the FBI Twitter, Spotify, eBay among the hundreds of popular sites affected by this attack all trying to recover tonight. Early this morning the attacks started taking down sites including Netflix with its popular shows like Orange is the New Black and Stranger Things

43:41 It was the East Coast host of these sites, DynInc in New Hampshire which was hit. It's called a denial-of-service attack when devices are used as bots to overwhelm a site with queries This just the most recent attack according to US intelligence email hacks were made by the Russian government The White House says it is too early to know who is responsible for today's attack which it called malicious activity A lot of folks joking, David. What will they do this weekend about Netflix? How will they shop this weekend but there are real concerns tonight about this being a new kind of attack we're dealing with. The company called it extremely sophisticated and complex and just two weeks ago David the first documented account of a bot

44:27 using surveillance cameras in an attack. These are called the Internet of Things, your printers or your faxes hooked up to the internet they're not secure someone's figured out how to use them in a...in an attack and they may have used it in this one. David Curley live at the FBI for us David thank you yes thank you jeez I think you can kill that sound effect Well, first of all really poor report. Technically bad. It's very bad if you want to hear bad we gotta go to the KTVU local news part one and then they try to explain this They go way off the rails on this one cast in Netflix Some web browsers at Campbell's Orchard Valley coffee noticed either extremely slow service to those sites or no service at all Has this been happening just a year since yesterday today? Yeah, I was trying to get there some other site. There was a link to and I thought it was odd that it kept getting

45:23 that it couldn't be reached. White House officials say the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring the situation The rules of the road when it comes to cyber security What? In large part are not well established The rules of the road? Listen to this guy and tell me what he's saying The rules of the road when it comes to cybersecurity in large part are not well established What we're seeing is increasing amount of... What does that mean?! I think it means, I don't know. Wow. I don't know how to answer that question! Increasing amount of critical infrastructure attacks, attacks against the foundation of the internet and so this is a good example of this. Vincent Weaver of McAfee Labs says the areas of cyber vulnerability migrated from phones laptops and tablets to other smart tech refrigerators stoves security systems... Oh hold on a second Hold on a second where's my smart refrigerator that orders my milk when i need it?

46:21 I don't even know if anyone has a smart stove. To other smart tech, refrigerators stoves... Smart tech? Oh God! To other smart tech, refrigerators stoves security systems today's inconvenience could have a broader impact tomorrow There are some services which use these websites, which may be critical services where it becomes much more than simply I can't send a tweet. I can do something else so depending on what site you're going to and how you're using them it can be a bigger deal The potential for greater problems keeps Jeff Fall checking and rechecking his personal systems for the day when a few hours of inconvenience Becomes something more thrusters

47:03 And the US officials say a third hack attack this afternoon was negated before it could cause substantial disruptions. Service is slowly returning to a lot of the popular sites, as matter of fact some other sites already have service back up I just checked Twitter and Twitter is once again tweeting away we are live in our South Bay Bureau Jesse Gary KTVU Fox 2 News. Alright just got calm everybody down for minute Yes, I'm sure there is a smart stove available at Best Buy. I hear you What does the smart student in the chat room that there are smart stoves? Oh they're pissed you morons this Smart stuff the hell would buy us March though our dark chat room Okay, well this is talk about this for one minute

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

New World Hackers, Mirai Botnet and DVR Exploits

A group calling itself New World Hackers claimed responsibility for the Dyn DDoS attack. Security firm Flashpoint suggests the hackers exploited vulnerabilities in Chinese-made DVRs and webcams using malware. The hosts discuss the poor security standards of these internet-connected consumer devices.

new world hackers· mirai· dvr· flashpoint· malware· china

47:55 Let's finish these clips. At least get this one out of the way. This is where they try to explain, they throw it to the anchor at KTVU Julie or one of the other ones and she tries to kind of explain it this makes it even funnier All right thank you very much Jesse want to tell people now more about a distributed denial-of-service Web service is intentionally overwhelmed by traffic from many sources. Now the company hit today said it received requests from tens of millions of IP addresses all at the same time. It said those devices are infected with a malware code that was released on the web in recent weeks it's not known just who is behind why attack now there's doing some malware I gotta hear that whole thing again let me see all right thank you very much Jesse want to tell people now more about a distributed denial of service its winner

48:49 Web service is intentionally overwhelmed by traffic from many sources. Now the company hit today said it received requests from tens of millions of IP addresses all at the same time It said those devices are infected with a malware code that was released on the web in recent weeks Oh, it's not known just who is behind the attack Okay Hmm, maybe it's Stuxnet out of control. Look listen the fact of the matter is The first person if you're talking about an Internet Of Things distributed denial-of-service attack which they have wrong in so many ways The first people you got to look at is China

49:34 They make all this crap with shitty passwords, no password. This is where it all comes from! So anyone who buys a smart stove one of the chat rooms... By the way those people in the chat room none of them have a smart stove because they're not that stupid No and they all should do their own podcast and talk about smart stoves Smart Stove Podcast But this it is very interesting Because you know the push for the Internet of Things and the lack of understanding and knowledge by the public in general, and by experts at large really. That there is no rules of the road. There's not going to be any rules of the road

50:19 It's just not, you know this it's all hackable. All software is buggy and shit and sucks and everything is possible in my view whatever you want to do. I have some thoughts on this but let's first since they only showed up yesterday the actual name of the group taking responsibility So we might as well at least get that out of the way. We don't know if they're from China or where they're from, but this is the hack P it says PBD which means PBS New World. I and U.S Department of Homeland Security haven't named any suspects in the cyber attacks that froze or slowed down websites

50:56 across the US and Europe yesterday, but a group called New World Hackers claimed responsibility. The security from Flashpoint says the hackers may have exploited internet connected devices like webcams and DVRs to launch the attack Twitter PayPal Amazon Netflix and Spotify. What did he say? Did you say DVRS? Yeah, hold on a second. That could be possible. Well there is computers the Linux computer and most DVRs. I don't know how you're gonna get the malware in there but okay China puts it into the factory New World hackers claim responsibility The security firm Flashpoint says that hackers may have exploited internet connected devices like webcams and DVR's to launch the attack

51:40 Twitter, PayPal, Amazon, Netflix and Spotify are among the companies that were affected. I love that so much energy is put into installing malware on DVRs, so they can go out and attack people. But meanwhile DVR's have the shittiest interfaces They don't do what you needed to do They pretty much all suck because I guess the Chinese or whoever's or The New World hackers are too busy putting a malware on them Hey make this thing work better! I have never Hooked my DVR to the internet. I just you I mean, I use it as a dish Networking talks to it. Yeah, I don't need it on the Internet Maybe let's go through the dish network satellites But I've noticed a couple things I think I kind of sense what this might actually be What might actually going on which okay something that is gonna change things? This is this

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Microservice Architecture, PayPal Donation Failures

The recent internet outages are attributed to vulnerabilities in microservice architecture, where modern websites rely on numerous interlinked third-party services. A listener report describes a failure in PayPal's credit card verification system during the attack, illustrating how a single point of failure in a microservice chain can disable a platform.

microservices· amazon web services· paypal· cloudflare· dns

52:35 Because then people keep talking about services, remote services and all these other things. I think what they're talking about nobody can explain it to them because nobody understands microservice architecture at all! And so they can't discuss it on some stupid level like webcams causing this problem when its not webcams at all. The reason is that they've hacked the microservice architecture system system, because there's no protections within that system at all from attacks. When you say microservice architecture what do you mean exactly with that? This was developed over the last few years this is what let's Netflix is pretty much a micro services architecture driven company

53:16 And what it implies is that, and this was explained to me when I went to IngenX and talked to the CEO and had a conversation because I didn't know much about it. It's the modern architecture of the internet which is that I start a little company and I don't really want to do anything! I don't want to do anything... Oh, I see what you're saying yeah You get Amazon EC2 AWS And you get the services that do the credit card reporting and when you see it on somebody map it out for ya, there's like 40 things that you do using other services. They're all interlinked and there is no protection of those services from being attacked because there's no cloud flare or some system like that which protects websites but doesn't protect microservices. Wait I'd argue that cloud flare

54:07 Can be a part and is a part of microservices if used I've talked to cloudflare about this specifically Okay, because it's something like this came up and they said their specialty is protecting websites. Okay? And so but but this is true I mean even if you go back to Twitter and it provides a huge single point of failure although I trust Amazon My trust level in Amazon is very high on there on their services because well one reason is If they go down, they're losing a million dollars a second. They're going to keep that stuff working and I think they really are quite good but...I know a lot about it because we use Amazon Web Services for a lot of things and I've seen the problems crop up from time-to-time but Twitter if you recall was built on that and Twitter's number one problem was they were always down in the beginning. I haven't remembered the fail whale? Yeah there is always something wrong with one of the systems

55:03 Now, the reason I'm thinking it's microservices architecture that's the problem is because of some tweets. I went back and forth with some people they were bitching because they couldn't get on pay. They can get on PayPal but then they couldn't give us a donation we lost money. We lost money. I know we did. In fact, I thought... This sucks. Because if one thing I've lost money, because if someone can't get to the website because DNS is not resolving which has really was really the big problem then and then they'll do it later and then they forget that happens. Well here's what kind of a key some guys on PayPal is trying to pay by credit card Every time he attempted to pay by credit card, it asked him again for the information and then again and then again. And then he said I freaked out this looks like something's wrong here so I didn't donate anything I got off the site! That's a classic microservices architecture problem because there is one element within the entire system that is failing

55:58 And in this case, it was the credit card verification system. Which is off-site someplace else with some specialty company that does this on a cheap... Now that's the one company that does it for Uber and what's the name of that company? They advertise on tech podcasts. Yeah but there's more than one company that clears credit cards. But they're all usually positioned as microservices. So they're not, you know... so you hook into them and then they take care of the back end when you have to do a credit card transaction and if they get taken down for whatever reason your credit card doesn't go through in the whole site might as well be dead by the way we had a denial-of-service attack on our servers last night according to our network provider

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

Kodi Software, Amazon Fire Stick Hacking

Kodi, an open-source media manager, is discussed in the context of users hacking Amazon Fire Sticks to access free content. There is speculation that the media may spin the recent DDoS attacks to crack down on unauthorized software installations on streaming devices.

kodi· amazon fire stick· open source· media manager· hacking

56:47 And they mitigated it by funneling that traffic into some kind of, I don't know. They funneled away into something? Do they have a word for it? So they resolved it for us but we got hammered so there's something going on This architecture is reasonably weak, but of course it's built to withstand this. So while inconvenient you know it doesn't last forever there are ways to fix it there a lot of smart dudes named Ben out there and sysadmins and they figure it out and they can change stuff so it is compatible I'm thinking... The DVR thing just hit me just stuck in my head There is something that's rampant right now called Kodi You familiar with it? KODI

57:35 No. Okay, so Cody is an open source media manager I think it's a and as part of it fits in the Linux architecture I believe I haven't looked at it myself but I've heard people talk about it and there is a way very simple way even for you to hack into your Amazon Fire Stick and once you've hacked into it you install Um, Cody and then you can get all the content for free or a lot of it is a lot of the stuff has been hacked. And then you can just start ordering stuff. What's your website for this? Well no if you just type in hacking fire stick Cody, I'm just kidding. But I think it works on a whole bunch of platforms. It's possible

58:18 Whether this was done for that reason, I doubt. But we will see a spin with these DVRs to say, oh yeah well people are installing this bogus software and we have to do something about it. So you know scare people into stopping stop doing that or any other avenues that would be possible That would that's something there's enough money in that yeah, there's enough money in that it would I like it and I like it like that could be misused for It or could be created for it either way. Well we do I think we've said enough

58:54 the two of us to give, we have so many dudes named Ben out there that I expect especially before I write my next column. That many of them will say well that sounds good from a simplistic point of view but here's what's going on and they're gonna tell me what's really going on. My theory is just a theory based on one guy who couldn't get his check thing to go through and you have more sinister theory But I'm sure that i will get letters at Dvorak, JohnatDvorak.org That will from our huge coterie of geniuses that will explain this in detail and I will push it into the public domain Well with that...I'd like to thank you for your courage and say In the morning to you John C. Dvorak! With a c stands for Columnist Extraordinaire

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Art, RSS Feed Technical Specs

The hosts discuss the artwork for Episode 870, "Yeezy Squeezy," and the technical limitations of the Apple Podcasts app. They explain that while the RSS spec allows for unique artwork per episode, many apps only display the most recent show cover.

podcast art· rss feed· itunes· apple podcasts· yeezy squeezy

59:47 Yes, well and in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and the morning to the chat room We're happy to have you there no matter what moods are in No agenda stream calm And of course we want us and we want to thank all over artists who were always ruminants art stoves The chatroom filled with smart stoves yes I want to thank I want to thank John Sell, who brought us the artwork for episode 870. Yeezy Squeezy was the title of that one and he had Wonder Woman decked out as Hillary Clinton or Hillary Clinton decked out as a Wonder Woman i should say uh it was just...it was a beautiful piece! It was very very nice nice piece

1:00:34 and we liked it. NoahGenera... ArtGenerator.com, anyone can participate, anyone can submit artwork and we're always happy that we can choose one to go as the album art a lot of people sending me notes after our discussion last week or last show who I see the album are just fine let me explain. I got one of these too! I've got a ton of them it works fine no If you have a list of all of our episodes, I think we have about 30 in current rotation. The most recent 30 in the RSS feed maybe it's 20 there should be able to see a list of all the episodes and a little icon of the artwork for each of those episodes that is recognition as a whole bunch of great things that come with that and that is not in most podcast apps certainly not apples

1:01:27 Well, specifically the iTunes. Yeah that's what I say yeah the iTunes and somebody... The podcast app. I see all the covers on my iOS app you know they got from the App Store or something it's not an iTunes thing. I don't know what their problem is kind of thing right but if you look at the list in the official Apple app Of all the episodes of a show, it will not... It will show the same artwork. The most current artwork for all the episodes That is what we want to change. It's not a big deal but look at that- It's in the spec! It's in this spec which Apple wrote and there's a lot of work being done and then makes it look pretty Alright backslash done Now I do know that on the NoAgenda app for the

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Donation Segment, Sir Nussbaum and Sir Abs

Producers contribute to the show, including a $999.99 donation from Duke Nussbaum. Abhini Mehta from the UK is knighted as "Sir Abs," requesting "election-winning karma" for Donald Trump to cause a "conniption fit" in Europe.

donations· nussbaum· knighthood· gitmo nation· karma

1:02:11 for the Roku box. Mm-hmm. The guy who does it? Oh yeah, oh yeah! You see all the different things now the guy I think the guys doing these by hand... No no he's just parsing the RSS differently because we put in our feed okay well because once in a while there'll be a slew of shows with no art. Hmm that shit happens glitch Well, we do want to thank a few people for this show. Despite the problems they had Nussbaum was at the top Duke Nussbaum I think we have a little jingle for him Yeah well first you want the jingle? I'm shocked! Shocked to find Sir Nussbaum working on a no agenda day

1:02:55 Tell Nussbaum if he reposted, he blocked. I do not take dick pics Don't do it Nussbaum. Don't do it man you don't wanna get blocked What are you doing now? I'm gonna put some pants on Okay I love it when producers send in their own jingles Dynamite! Yeah that was Nussbaum's jingle Love it He was going back and forth with me on Twitter, because he couldn't get his donation in which would have been a huge loss to us. Yeah he tried three or four times! Yeah I finally did it and he came up with $999.99 to celebrate our stack of nines. And he said he finally made it through love you John & Adam. I sent the jingle to Adam which she just played. Thank You very much sir Nelson now doesn't does he do not have a upgrade of title?

1:03:49 If we, we probably have to throw in the extra change. Well he's up in the dukedoms and so the upgrades really are hard to come by they're very... Yeah and he would've mentioned it. Okay well we really appreciate it And is he still with Saint Nicole? I don't know you're gonna have to ask him. Okay well thank ya let me give him some karma for that too! Oh yes hello hello You've got karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Kamakamele Abhini Mehta, I think. Or Meta? Abhini, Abhini Meta, Meta, Meta, M-E-H-T-A, Abhini in Wembley UK 345. I'm attaching my accounts and with my latest donation I have enough to become a knight! Woo! This is just a birthday gift to myself as my birthday is on the 25th of October we have them on the list I assume sometimes they get some... Yeah yeah yeah I'll check go ahead

1:04:49 The show is my safe space and I'd be lost without you guys. The safe space of podcasting, no agenda! I live in the UK and can confirm that Europe is becoming more and more retarded by the day. I would therefore like to request some some election winning karma for Donald Trump. Not that I have anything to gain from him winning, but it would be hilarious to see the whole of Europe having an epileptic seizure. I think we'd use the word conniption fit on the 9th of November. I would like to be known as Sir Abs

1:05:27 Night of the Gitmo Nation East deplorables. As a side note, John I like the Confucius openings also like it when Adam recaps past analysis just like the Clinton Foundation paying two million dollars to the charity Watchdog to increase their ratings. Oh, I see what he did there He made you feel good by saying I like your Confucius says and then he also put you down by saying By the way It's good when Adam recaps Which you excoriated before. I did, I did. You were wrong with good reason. Yeah i know what to play is here it's pretty good as you know he's learned a few things from the show oh i'm sure everyone forgets uh bits from time to time this sort of stuff is invaluable once your nightmare could you please direct me to the hookers and blow it would be much appreciated no problem we have that at the special table

1:06:16 We have the, yeah it's a neighborhood there. Alright man I'm going to give you that karma thank you! You've got karma Thank you looking forward to your ceremony to become Sir Abs Okay now we have this is a very interesting donation that came in and it says It came in with a no postmark, this guy wants to be anonymous pretty much. And this is Noah Jenda. You know I read that name and then you're like anonymous? Well why did they put their name here? Oh Noah Jenda bam got it! Yeah $248 or $246.80 and he sent a note which i will read

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Noah Jenda Moniker, Birthday Tributes and Listener Notes

A donor from Idaho claims the moniker "Noah Jenda" after a neighbor misunderstood the show's name. Karen Schrock contributes $200 for her husband Nigel's 25th birthday and knighthood, sharing a story about finding No Agenda episodes on her late father's computer.

noah jenda· idaho· birthday· knighthood· global warming

1:07:05 My donation comes with a cheer. 2468, who do we appreciate? No agenda no agenda go podcasting yay! Yay I have been hitting my neighbor in the mouth of late no agenda this no agenda that i showed him how access to live stream and archive one day and he says oh no agenda I thought you were listening some guy named Noah. Agenda Thus, I claim the moniker. Nice! And by the way this first guy... This is an obvious gag that no one's discovered in nine years. Yeah. I find it kind of peculiar to be honest about it Oh you're talking about that guy Noah Agenda? No agenda. No agenda. And by the way at the end of today as a matter fact In my opinion The NOAH Agenda show is essentially for all practical purposes The best podcast in the universe Right?!

1:07:58 Many thanks and in the morning, thank you for your courage. Noah Jenda from the Wood Valley of Idaho Two clips The New York snob who reads the New York Times followed by the scream Who reads The New York Times? What is that? Oh, I know what it is. You'll never find it. And I wouldn't say... I know! I say that all the time and you find it 90% of the time. This is the clip where this woman was being interviewed by RT. You'll never find it. She's being interviewed by RT and she says oh I listen to CNN and I read The New York Times and I read The Washington Post and I don't see why people aren't more informed and I'd never listened to Fox

1:08:41 I remember the clip, it's not findable. It must be one of your clips? It was one of my clips and it's an RT... SnideRT clip that- Well thats why its prompter. Its man on the street, mislabeled. It's not findable ill tell you that much If you were to label this lets just try this if you were to label what would you label it? Uh, R would be something like RT, have RT for sure And then it would have a man on the street with some man on the street idiots or something stupid like that Idiots. I can see you writing idiots Yeah, I do that a lot Probably too often Well you know You may have stumped me on this one That's too bad Now i'd like to hear that one It was funny Yeah, I'm sure it was dynamite Hang around and have a hug and share our secret That's pretty much the same thing Okay well Secret is always good

1:09:42 Uh-huh. This is not going well for me today. That's okay. I'm trying... Oh, there's no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret You've got karma Best i could do Okay, well we'll look forward in the future I don't feel good about that Okay, and so finally last but not least we have Karen Schrock at $200 And she's from parts unknown. She sent me an email which I printed and I just had to find it Where is it you're as good as me today? Yeah, I figured this is gonna be the way this is gonna Be the way it is Shrug shrug shrug shrug shrug. It's like yeah, I got a truck here she is oh

1:10:37 It made a little more difficult to find since her name is Karen Evan, but she's Karen Schrock too. Dear Johnny, oh get your pen out. Get your pen out. I got my pens out! Dear John and Adam, this donation is a birthday present for president. Hi, President! This is a birthday present from my husband Nigel who's turning 25 on October 23rd. Please put it towards his knighthood. He first started listening to the No Agenda... Oh no, whoa, this is interesting. He first started listening to Adams Daily Podcast in 2005 when he, Nigel was 13

1:11:17 and has been a no agenda since, no agender. You've cursed the show! A No Agenda listener since day one. Nigel is a wonderful man and I'm so thankful for it." So in other words this guy's since 13 has been completely... Well he's on the team. Yeah, it's on the team. I'm still thankful for everything he's brought into my life including No Agenda. My first episode was on the drive home from our honeymoon Way to go. Can you imagine that? I'm so happy, I'm married too now let's listen to this. It's like annulment! can you spell annullment?! Okay... Now wait a minute is there does he have a birthday or was it just for his knighthood i didn't catch No no no no this is towards his knighthood but but he does not as night with his birthdays turning 25 on October 23rd yeah

1:12:15 Nigel, we love listening. He said on the drive home from my honeymoon, we love listening to it and discussing it with each other is also an honor of my father who passed away a year-and-a-half ago when I found some old no agenda episodes on his computer. Wow! That's like finding porn A distant memory of him telling us that global warming was a scare tactic suddenly made sense. Wow! Thanks for all you do. P.S., this is Karen Ewan, please call out our friend Max as a douchebag and a butch. And she would like to Reverend Manning whoop Obama's behind please.

1:12:58 Very good. That was a good note. Fantastic note, yeah really really loved it Thank you. We'll play the full rap for ya You've got karma

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

EU Ratification Crisis, Dutch Ukraine Referendum

The European Union faces a legal quagmire regarding the ratification of the Ukraine association agreement. Despite a Dutch referendum rejecting the deal, Brussels is attempting to move forward, highlighting the tension between EU mandates and the requirement for unanimous member state approval.

european union· netherlands· ukraine· referendum· ratification

1:13:37 Good one. I love hearing that one again and that concludes our associate executive producers and executive producers for two and two for show 871 and of course people yeah when we have another donation segment coming up or people $50 and above and When is our big birthday is the 26th Wednesday? Wednesday so Wednesday, so the Thursday show will be the anniversary show then how are we going to be celebrating John By doing a long donation segment, I hope. Yeah me too! Please remember us for our next show! devorek.org slash N A Thank you very much to our execs and our associate executive producers everybody else be out there with our formula! Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Slaaaayyyy! Shut up! Slaaaaaaaaayyyy! Oh nice

1:14:45 Okay, very good. Hey there's a I've discovered something that is a flaw in the European Union A huge flaw and it's coming to head now we've already seen this problem. One? Well for them for the elite who put it together let's put it that way you know, the people who like to just have everything go their way. Oh yeah! We saw this first happen with the Netherlands but I have some standing discussing them they held a big referendum and it was a referendum against allowing Turkey...I'm sorry Ukraine into the EU

1:15:26 association agreement, which is a step before possibly EU. But referendum? No one wanted it. They went and voted there was a good majority who said nope and this is not necessarily binding according to the Dutch constitution but the implication is okay if that's what the public wants we have to come up with something else. This was important Because the rules of the European Union are, of certain types of agreements certainly those of inter-country commerce outside of the EU and expansion of the EU requires ratification a unanimous ratification from all 28 member states.

1:16:13 So the Netherlands said, you know we're not on board with that. The government still has to do something about it... How long was this ago? Six months now this referendum for the Netherlands? At least! And Brussels is like they're just moving ahead even though the Netherlands has not ratified because if they do there's going to be riots on the street and Europe or EU says okay whatever just moving along so but they can't really do that legally so it's a quagmire. They haven't fixed it Now we have the Walloons of all people. The Walloons, and we probably should explain who the Walloons are. Yes! In Belgium you have the French-speaking portion and you have the Flemish or Dutch dialect

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

CETA Trade Deal, Walloon Parliament Veto

The Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) between the EU and Canada was blocked by the regional parliament of Wallonia in Belgium. Walloon leader Paul Magnette demanded guarantees on social and environmental standards, demonstrating how a sub-national entity can halt major international trade deals.

ceta· canada· belgium· wallonia· paul magnette· trade agreement

1:16:57 speaking population. And they are pretty much as long as I've been in that, in the Benelux area they've always been at odds. The Walloons and the Flemish they do not like each other of course they're both in the Belgian government then just the name alone Walloons you know you got to kind of laugh at him no laughing matter though We've talked about TTIP, TPP. Most people in Europe certainly and in the US we're seeing people against these big trade agreements they feel that they're not really trade agreements they're helping out big corporations and doing all kinds of crazy shit with the laws all the texts are secretive it's not a good deal so CETA this is the Big EU Trade Agreement with Canada

1:17:46 Everybody's good to go. We're just kind of at ambassador levels, a couple things are working out it's going to be great everybody ratifies and this thing is on." Uh-uh! The Walloons discovered or I guess they might have known hey wait a minute even the province of a member state can block this Therefore, making the trade agreement not possible because Belgium now cannot and will not ratify this agreement. So I found this actually pretty good interview at a little piece on Euronews

1:18:22 And this is all in French and they have one guy just reading over it, translating it including a piece of an interview with one of the top dogs there from the Walloons. Very interesting to listen on what they're saying and how... Well I don't know what the EU was going to do but its fun to watch their train just fall off the tracks drive off the tracks with something that never expected to happen because we know that they are really good at bullying countries Mike, hey Ireland. We don't like your vote do over You know, we still expect a do-over for the Brexit. Here we go! International trade agreements were also discussed especially the soon to be signed one with Canada which has run into a last minute snag According to press reports the EU member states are ready to give new guarantees to Wallonia so that's the Belgian region accepts the trade deal between Europe and Canada The talks are at the level of ambassadors if there is an agreement

1:19:20 The heads of states and governments will approve this on Friday. to national and regional parliaments in this field, why is the French-speaking Belgian region blocking the free trade agreement with Canada? The reasons are political say the critics. Not so according to the head of the Walloon government Paul Magnette he's defending the interests of European citizens take a look at this interview Are you going give your green light for the EU-Canada Free Trade Deal

1:20:04 I clearly said we have to follow the benchmarks that were set by my Parliament and told that to the European Commission one year ago. It turns out that the Parliament of Wallonia has the same powers as all other national parliaments in EU, if we don't sign it, we do not ratify the treaty or never come to fruition! I always said I supported a Treaty with Canada –a well-developed treaty– but expect guarantees on social and environmental standards, human rights, consumer protection… So therefore I am still waiting to see which text the Commission will come up with. Is that a clear no? Are you ready to negotiate further?" I already said it's not a point-blank, no it is not a veto. I told the Commission what our remaining difficulties were last Monday but I did add which shortfalls still remain in terms of protecting our agriculture, in terms of arbitration rules or techniques...I also wanted to make sure that only truly Canada based companies

1:20:56 with real business activities in Canada could use the treaty so it avoids becoming a Trojan horse for multinationals from other countries. Well, here's a couple of interesting things that needs clearing up. First of all the way the report sounds it sounds like the French side of the country didn't want to do it and then the Walloons decided to veto it so that was confusing. The other thing is

1:21:44 The way this, well Switzerland is not in the EU and I can see a bit of Swiss thinking in this sort of thing going on in Belgium. Which is these individual cantons have a lot more power than you know like we try to talk big game here in the United States about the 10th amendment and all those states rights and all the rest of it but we always try to abnegate that and don't take it too seriously and people, the general public will still say something like well fed Trump's state when it comes to lawmaking, which is why marijuana's illegal. But it's bull crap, which is why marijuana has been legalized and the feds really don't want to deal with it. Is it possible that because these two parliaments that one half of the country can make this decision and then veto the whole thing? Is the whole EU set up like that where you have these multi-

1:22:39 I didn't think about it, but I didn't know that Belgium actually had two distinct parliaments for the two separate entities. Yes well you know they didn't have a government for couple years at all right so the Belgian governmental status is already kind of odd But this is some kind of Achilles heel that I guess they never thought that this would happen. That you can have, you know, this kind of a veto that blocks ratification of these obvious very important New World Order documents to create the globalist society! I don't know what they're going to do about it other than passing some... maybe we'll

1:23:18 Well, we'll do like a nine out of 10. Maybe it's probably best for the EU that Great Britain left because in fact with Britain or the UK you had what three distinct parliaments that are, you know Wales I guess yeah North and Northern Ireland Wales there's four Scotland. It's got its own Parliament And then you have the England right but they so that would be four sources of vetoes I don't know if their system works the same thing. I doubt it But we do know that, you know there could be referenda stuff like that has happened with the Netherlands. This is the second time there's been some important treaty to the globalists that has been blocked and this guy he's just a dude somewhere, you know? He's not like being on the international stage so we'll have to see. They're gonna have to change their rules. They must! I don't think somebody can veto that. Yeah, veto changing of the rules. If they try to change their rules then it should definitely be vetoed

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

George Soros, Nazi Collaboration Allegations

An investigation into George Soros is announced, featuring a vintage clip where Soros describes the year of German occupation in Hungary as a "positive experience." The hosts plan to "untangle the web" of Soros's global influence and political activities.

george soros· hungary· nazi occupation· glenn beck· investigation

1:24:20 I've also decided, because no one has done it that i know of certainly not the way we deconstruct things. I need to go after George Soros It's too easy. It's all about Soros and how Soros this... And actually its too easy just say Soros but its hard to really pin this guy down because his web is so vast and so well established That im going to really dive into this guy He irritates the hell outta me And he seems to be, you know... At first it was crackpot theory. I don't think it was ever crackpot theory. Not for me! Glenn Beck? Not for me but people because Glenn Beck was saying it was crackpot theory the rest my case. I'd like to know why Glenn Beck got off that horse. I haven't heard Glenn Beck even say Soros's name in the last two years.

1:25:19 But there's a lot of things wrong with this guy. And so let me try and assassinate his character first, what we do in America." It's pretty well documented that as a kid although he says he didn't really understand the implications of what he was doing... He grew up in Hungary occupied Hungary that he actually worked with the Nazis putting Jews on trains and there's been no real denial from him on that But what I did come across, and I figured I'd play it on the show before it disappears from the interwebs entirely. A short clip of Soros talking about that time when he was collaborating with the Nazis under the auspices of his father. It was actually probably the happiest year of my life

1:26:07 that year of German occupation. For me it was a very positive experience, it's a strange thing because you see incredible suffering around you and in fact you are in considerable danger yourself But you're 14 years old and you don't believe that it can actually touch you. You have a belief in yourself, your belief in your father... It's a very happy-making exhilarating experience." For the happiest times of his life John! Wow! That's a clip So that's just my shot across the bow Soros I'm coming for ya

1:26:47 I feel like doing some investigation. No agenda what? Who's that guy Noah Jenda? What's that, what are you talking about? Noah who? Exactly Well, it would be fun to kind of untangle a little of it because you're right. It's a web of deceit And no one is really doing anything other than he's bad and evil Yeah we know that but let's dive in deeper Let's show some things You might turn out to be a great guy! Yeah okay that'll happen I have a lot of respect for Jill Stein

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

Syria Pipelines, WikiLeaks Oil Collusion

Jill Stein tweeted an article linking the Syrian conflict to gas pipeline competition. Meanwhile, WikiLeaks emails suggest a plan to use the Federal Reserve to funnel oil revenues to the Kurds (KRG) by reversing pipelines in Iraq, which the hosts characterize as a scheme to steal oil and manipulate markets.

syria· pipelines· jill stein· krg· federal reserve· oil markets

1:27:31 She tweeted... Yeah, Jill Stein is great. She's going down with a fight! She's argh! Yeah she now did this is what she did. She tweeted a link to an article with the picture and I recognize the picture because it's the one that I put in this the Syrian problem of the two pipelines Now that wasn't my picture but this picture was used In this article and actually two other ones which I hadn't seen And it explains probably in even better detail than the articles I've linked to, what is the title of this? It's from news.com.au so that's a

1:28:09 That's a Murdoch property. Is the fight over Australia, is the fight over gas pipeline fueling the world's bloodiest conflict? And you know there it is sometimes... It's the gas stupid and it goes into the whole thing about the two pipelines and she tweeted that out like well with someone with that awareness that's almost worth a vote even though she's nuts about climate change and all the other stuff. Yeah yeah she's nuts about climate change Um, yeah. I was, I saw that and then I liked the people who will say, Hey Noah Jen has been talking about this for the last three years or whatever, however long it's been. And then there was in one of the Podesta emails, there was something very interesting from WikiLeaks and this is from Steven J Hadley, I believe. And who is his Hadley guy? He's from a consulting company with Gates and Rice. It's rice had Lee gates.

1:29:06 That's the consulting company, writes an email and here it is. It says a lot about the current... I'm just going to read it to you. With the occupation of Ninh Nhua by ISIS and of Greater Kirkuk by the KRG we have an interesting possibility. It is my understanding that the pipelines that brought Kurdish crude to Kirkuk to be shipped via the Kirkuk-Sehan pipeline can be reversed Now this is the oil that we've been talking about, that Erdogan's son has been stealing or shipping off to the off to Ceyhan which is you know all the way west coast there uh to be shipped out and sold. And gee who knows who's buying that you know stolen oil? I don't know it was not us no

1:29:58 So, he's saying I believe this pipeline can be reversed. If this is so, this provides an opportunity for the Northern Oil Company part of the central government of Iraq to ship out up to 200,000 barrels per day. I think that pipeline could take that, I'd have to check but clearly close to that as the Kurds are on good days we're sending up to 175,000 barrels per day to Kirkuk The idea would be, Kirkuk to keep producing. Shutting down operation wells is a laborious costly and very detrimental process with the Beji refinery fed up to 100 thousand barrels day from Kirkuk in the Sehan line in enemy hands that's lot of capacity that shut-in with production either sent to Kurdistan for refining or shipped out by 300 thousand barrels per day line that very fortunately KRG now has to say on

1:30:47 So the KRG would temporarily market all oil exported via that line, its own quantities. there would be about 100,000 barrels a day. But proceeds check this out would be put into the Fed Reserve DFI account with some special arrangement for the CURTR 17% of total revenues countrywide now a Federal Reserve DFI account is um a deposit a Depository Financial Institution uh so these are you know really only central banks and that kind of big organizations do this So what they're talking about is

1:31:24 really stealing the oil with help from the Kurds and then kicking back 17% to them using our Federal Reserve System. That's interesting! No, it's not interesting... It's a fucking outrage! Well that's... Sorry sorry I mean that's- And where is the media? The media doesn't want to look at this stolen emails that Russians have delivered to us just to ruin our two party system Oh my god I mean, this is a big deal to me. And there goes your voice! Yeah, yeah... I know, I know! I'm clearly emotional about it but you know come on this is clearly showing what's going on and how there's this collusion and bringing in the Fed for to funnel the money

1:32:24 Yeah, it's outrageous. I'm just wondering... And then listen on top of everything else what this would do is while quantities are limited this could calm the world markets they're taking it that far they want to influence the markets whether you influencing it for good or bad or settling or not your influencing it? I'm sorry! I was blown away and like where and I'm looking for reporting no there's no reporting Well, I know there's been a lot of chatter in the investment community about trying to stabilize oil at 55. Because that brings online and I didn't know these numbers and I questioned some of them... I thought it was higher for US to come online or I mean lower? I'm sorry lower

1:33:12 55 is what makes fracking work. Fracking's expensive, but marginally I guess isn't it? How much are you making on that? It's not like a bonanza but you can make money and have jobs and like he said in that memo if you read it carefully and you did uh...it's hard to stop to cap a well or shut down what you're doing It's easy, it's just some way you can do any good way of not doing that and have because setting the things back up and starting over is like a pain. And you lose a bunch of money at the beginning just like the other guy said, uh, the expert to business expert is always going to lose some money there at the beginning. And which is not true but the oil might be if he had to turn her well on and off so that could be that yeah, I couldn't be part of a bigger grander scheme

1:34:01 I'm glad that Jill Stein's got at least on this much of it. You should send her a copy of this memo! Yeah, I gotta send her that for sure. Obviously she's not gonna read in the New York Times. I don't know... Every day I try to go through another swath of WikiLeaks emails because I know we're just not being served by anybody No these guys are terrible Really not being served? I need to get, I should probably do the same thing. I just let you do it. I ran into an interesting clip just out of the blue which is kind of confirmed something we've kinda decided and I think both of us this is Jeff Greenfield he's on I think he's on PBS now or he's in a little hack from ABC and now he's floating around doing different things but he makes his very interesting assertion which I think that

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Presidential Debates, Jeff Greenfield Analysis

Analyst Jeff Greenfield suggests the first presidential debate was the turning point where Hillary Clinton's lead stabilized. The hosts criticize Donald Trump's performance, arguing he "choked" after previously claiming he would easily defeat Clinton in a debate format.

donald trump· hillary clinton· jeff greenfield· pbs· polling

1:34:56 that two of us could agree on. And it's a pet peeve of mine, and I'll go into the pet peeve again after the clip. It looks like it may challenge that conventional wisdom, because the first debate really seems to have been the turning point. Trump had closed within a point or two in virtually every poll and once that first debate ended Clinton's lead began to grow and it has still grown and now stabilized up to this point Remember, the fundamentals, the economic data and stuff predicted a close race. So this may be a case where an event actually had an impact one quick footnote The economic fundamentals Barack Obama's approval ratings have all moved in a direction in the last month or two that helps the Democrats But I still think we're going to look back at that first debate as a critical factor Jeff Greenfield many thanks so what am I reminded of when I hear this analysis is

1:35:59 I'm reminded of Donald Trump, this may be the last time i do this. I am reminded of Donald Trump in his debates with the other Republicans about how he's so looking forward to debating Hillary because he is going to wipe the floor with her! I am so looking forward to debating Hillary ohhh I'm so looking forward to it and here's what we get... Choke! Chokes Oh, you know I didn't want to say anything bad because Chelsea was in the audience and i didn't want to hurt her feelings. Okay are you ready? Yeah, I've expected a little more of a rant but okay that's good enough. You know I can't...I've been ranting about this since every debate like I shouldn't have done a debate that's what he should have done he should have retired well winner ah! These debates are too easy for me I'm not going to do any of them

1:37:00 So this is what we got. Yeah, of course it's still rigged We don't know really who's gonna win or how people were actually gonna vote because you know that all the information we're getting is bogus yeah, yeah But it's now you just it's the whole It's a scam. It's free. It truly Israel. Really all is rigged. That's really true And it's so vast Yeah, it's very tight. And I think the thing about the oil that you just exposed that nobody wants to report they don't report on anything now stuff they do report and I do have some clips of. I think this is... I have something about the debate quickly a quick little from off.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Nuclear Launch Window, Hillary Clinton Debate Claim

During a debate, Hillary Clinton claimed there is a four-minute window between a presidential order and a nuclear launch. Defense Secretary Ash Carter refused to confirm if this information is classified, while the hosts question if Clinton was "ad-libbing" or revealing state secrets.

nuclear weapons· ash carter· hillary clinton· classified information· barbara starr

1:37:45 So it kind of passed by me. I didn't really think of anything until i saw the Defense Department press briefing in the debate Hillary Clinton said that, uh, The president has four minutes between making a decision to launch and so a lot of people said hey man that's you know or like you know I saw a lot of memes Putin going hey thanks now we know how much time we have And when you think about it, yeah I guess that would be something that would be classified. You certainly don't want to know that...I think four minutes is a long time seems long if we really committed to it so does that mean we have four minutes to stop or? I'm not quite sure but Ash Carter the Secretary of Defense has said up front at his news conference he was not going to discuss this

1:38:34 because it, you know he doesn't get...he does not want to wade into the political debate. Luckily Barbara Starr from CNN I do not hold her very high and have very high regard about much but she went ahead and she asked yes a two-part question they cut out the second question so if you hear him talking about his second questions cuz i removed it and she took a little different tactic and I appreciate that she did that Mr. Secretary just spoken couple of times about the full weight US strategic deterrence to defend South Korea and because of your own expertise in nuclear matters, I want to ask you questions of policy not politics. Nonetheless it was said last night that- and i want a quote um let me just finish the question sir if i might that there are about four minutes between the order being given and people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so

1:39:26 I want to ask you not about that. I do want to ask you, is it classified to discuss nuclear launch timeframes? It's either classified or it's not." I'm sorry but I am not going to answer your first part because it is cast in terms of the ongoing presidential campaign and as said repeatedly I am not going to answer questions in that context So, not gonna answer on that one. No! So not gonna do it? Just not gonna answer? Not going to answer on that one? Well clearly your answer is there why wouldn't you just say it I'm not convinced of this first of all I believe Hillary's just ad-libbing she's a liar by the way when she said that

1:40:19 If I were Trump, I would have said yeah gee it's so important too bad your husband lost the biscuit for three months. Well he could have brought that up he could have brought up the national security thing he could have brought about this is how you are so random with your knowledge of secrets state secrets you're just giving them away to a debate crowd? Yeah that would have been even better! He could've gone a million different ways he had he chokes at these debates he's no good Show, fail. Epic fail! It is an epic fail but the question is do you think it's classified? I think she just made up. These things may not even work at all we don't know they work. I'm sure they work well enough. They make a lot of smoke that's for sure. In the Woodward and Bernstein, who are of course very famous journalistic duo

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Carl Bernstein, Neo-Fascist Trump Comments

Watergate journalist Carl Bernstein appeared on CNN and labeled Donald Trump a "neo-fascist sociopath." Bernstein also suggested Trump is planning to build a "media empire" with Breitbart executives following a potential election loss, a narrative the hosts dismiss as an intelligence community talking point.

carl bernstein· cnn· donald trump· neo-fascist· breitbart· watergate

1:41:18 who did the All The Presidents Men. They reported at Washington Post, correct? Both or there was one... Yeah both at Washington Post And they you know famous Robert Redford movie it was a book too I guess must have been a book Was it a book Debs, All the President's Men was a book. It was actually a series of reports that became a book later. So they really...they're heralded as great journalists. Was one of the two really the smart one in the operation? Is there one guy who is the real guy or are they both equally insidious to us? Well, one of the guys we know from Russ Baker's book

1:41:53 One of the guys secrets Woodward mm-hmm was Navy intelligence went into The Washington Post probably as a CIA guy right? Bernstein Bernstein seems to be a guy who resisted going into one of these agencies and he stayed an independent. And he's the one who in 1997 wrote on his own website, I think it's still there, A long exposition of government infiltration of the media. It's in...I'm gonna put it in The Show Notes again we've done it before. It's a great read so- It's a great read! Thank you for reminding me because I thought the guy is pretty good He sees through all the bullcrap

1:42:34 Well, he's working with an agency guy. Sure. But you get a clue after awhile? No but that was not... That was his own words written on his own website and said it's all bull crap. It's all set up. Everyone is a shill pretty much. There are enough shills to make it yeah. You can almost say that everyone is a shill. So imagine my disappointment when I hear him using the following words on CNN where he is a regular contributor. This campaign is now about a neo-fascist, I keep coming back to that...

1:43:10 Sociopath. That's where we are and what interests me at this point because it seems apparent he is going to lose barring some really big surprise, is how and why 80-90% of people who call themselves Republicans can continue to support this man in this movement no matter how much they hate Hillary Clinton? I think the most interesting thing going on right now is Trump saying that he may not go along with the results of this election. What does it really mean? It means, I think that he is setting himself up

1:43:47 as the head of, again I'm going to go back to that neo-fascist term, a real neo fascist movement and media empire with the people from Breitbart. There's talks going on about that, about a media empire and is there going to be remnants of a neo fascist movement he leads in this country after this election? Alright so explain what do you mean by Neo Fascists? Neo meaning new Well, how was he talking about where did he get the fascism from I don't know. I have no idea what he's talking about or what is even

1:44:28 implying he is either sold out because at some point you got to see your partner cranking out these books, which he's not writing cause it's written by the agency. That's the way I'm looking at it cause I know what it takes to write a book. I can't even get my vinegar book done. You know exactly how hard it is. So and I've done a lot of books but you know usually in team as teams that they're all easy and they're instant best sellers And this guy is like cranking these things out left and right because he doesn't have to write them. You can spot guys like this, they just told a line on certain things politically and then they were cranking out these books? Okay well... So maybe Bernstein said well jeez you know I could use a few books! Okay so that would mean that the intelligence community's party line is

1:45:24 Trump is a neo-fascist and the entire population that supports him are neo fascists. And they're all going to be watching the new media empire, by the way you build an empire don't just make it like presto you build an empire Ahole And who's gonna, you know, get a Breitbart guy and Trump together? They're gonna pool some money and make a media empire. Glenn Beck had a better shot at it! Let's talk about that for second because this is the continuing narrative... Well he knows he's gonna lose so he's going to build his own new media empire To compete against Fox That's implied Which is what Beck did Yeah that's implied Do you think there's any validity to it No

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Trump Media Empire, Roger Ailes and Alt-Right TV

Speculation continues regarding Donald Trump, Roger Ailes, and Breitbart launching a new "Alt-Right" television network to compete with Fox News. The hosts argue that Trump's primary strength is Twitter rather than traditional television and doubt the financial viability of such a project.

roger ailes· breitbart· alt-right· fox news· megyn kelly· twitter

1:46:09 I think Trump's full of crap about this. And I think somebody slipped it, or somebody...I think somebody dreamed it up with the Breitbart guy where somebody added two and two and two and they said well this must be a media empire in the making you know but there's what where's to me? Maybe they're gonna go okay here's the possibility I'll put it in The Red Book. AILS! Roger Ailes is in part of this deal and so he comes in, that's why he shows up in the first place. Roger Ailes says look I did it at Fox, I'm the one who made Fox News and he has yeah I know how to do it you just douchebag you be a sleazeball pinched girls butts as they walk into see if they object to it then don't get hired

1:46:50 And I know how to do this. Because look at this, it took us... It did take a few years. It's not like overnight but it was like here is what we can do and we can do better than Fox. I'll tell you where Fox's flaws are and they got these problems. They've got a bunch of political correct guy James Murdoch who is an idiot who knows what he's saying? Then the old man is going to die then the whole thing will fall apart. Here is my problem with the whole idea Trump strength is not television its Twitter In fact, if Trump would stop tweeting you could buy Twitter for $500,000. He is Twitter as far as I'm concerned. I don't think there's anything else. You're making the mistake of thinking that Trump is going to be the front man and the guy on the other side of the camera No no! I am not making any mistakes. It makes no sense to do a television project

1:47:37 First of all, just I think he's just a finance guy in this case. It would be Roger Ailes and the Breitbart guy could be a fine Trump is to fight as the money guy He's gonna get the money but with his power of what? He's been able to know understand what you're saying. I agree 100% That's why the whole thing is kind of sketch makes no sense Yeah, it just look but it looks if he's gonna just do it as a guy with them the month mr Moneybags who can get the money to do this thing and he now knows how to fundraise, and he knows how to get big crowds. And he could probably get a lot of interest in something like this. He could get interest and he could tweet about it but he wouldn't be anything more than that It'd be a Roger Ailes project with the Breitbart guy. Those two right-wingers are new alt-right

1:48:23 All right. I mean, all right station would be more sincere than I was going to say this thing yet you've always said it and I can't disagree which is really a bunch of Democrats that are posing as Republicans especially since Ailes is out and they're not pro-Trump at all yeah they're starting to back off and you know we they need a you know Megyn Kelly they could probably steal Megyn Kelly Megyn Kelly at night! I'd watch it You know, they could just call it Alt-Right. If you're gonna do it I'll just call it Alt-Right TV. Yeah freak a lot of people out. Again though Beck tried to do this and he's... Right but he had no money and takes a lot of money to do this as you know John every business expects to lose some money when they start a new... Billions! Yes I got a couple quickies here

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

2000 Election Recount, Al Gore Patriotism Narrative

The media is using Al Gore's 2000 concession speech as a benchmark for patriotism in the face of Donald Trump's claims of a "rigged" election. The hosts dispute the "gracious" narrative, noting that Gore's concession came only after a month-long legal battle and a Supreme Court ruling.

al gore· george w. bush· 2000 election· recount· patriotism

1:49:18 with this, you know Donald Trump bringing the validity of the elections into question. ABC although they then factually not wrong the way they painted the Bush-Gore recount and that whole continuity I mean how long did it take? Did it takes four or five weeks? I've lost track of it but I remember I think this is when we had blogs, but we didn't have Twitter obviously. And I remember posting like,

1:49:56 That was a very weird time and it was because the election was contested. It was a big problem, made America look very problematic but ABC they kind of changed the history on this or at least turned it into a different good story And another tough campaign with 2000 Al Gore and George W Bush and Al Gore he made a gracious concession speech Let's take a listen I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside and may God bless his stewardship of this country. Now John, how important is a speech like that or this speech in bringing the country back together again?

1:50:37 Well, I'll never forget that one. You know? That was in December after the long recount after the Supreme Court put an end to the recount everybody wondered how Gore would handle it that was the best speech of that entire campaign for Al Gore incredibly gracious and the country really needed it! I remember vividly out out in front of the vice presidential residence there were protesters who had been chanting day after day get out of Dick Cheney's house After Gore gave that speech, they started chanting thank you Al Gore. It was absolutely critical to bringing the country back together after that very bitter campaign and even more bitter recount

1:51:17 Wow. Yeah, that was really something that was it and a real act of patriotism by Al Gore at the time yes. He didn't do it right after the election he did it a month later! Exactly! So I expect Trump to do something a month later if he loses? A real patriot. Who are these guys kidding?! But he's a real patriot our Al Gore was what a patriotic move just fabulous. It sounded like the guy would sound like an irked dick Yeah, it's not a happy camper given that speech. It was hardly a patriotic move The guy still goes on and on about this being a ripoff He should be I should have been president when he gives his speeches hi. I'm the former should have been president And then he went on to assault the massage girl in the hotel remember that oh

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Constitutional Succession, Joe Biden and Sexual Assault

A scenario is discussed where Congress chooses the president if the Electoral College is deadlocked, potentially leading to a Joe Biden presidency. Biden is criticized for his rhetoric regarding "taking Trump behind the gym," which the hosts compare to the physical aggression Trump has been accused of.

joe biden· constitution· sexual assault· 2016 election· vice president

1:52:05 Yes, I think people who want to forget that. I don't it's because the visual is like this as a sad visual I agree Hey you want to massage this so as we were talking about what happens if there's a contested election. You know, there's so Congress can choose at a certain point from the you know under certain circumstances like a draw it's starting to look more like an episode of Veep than anything when you think about it and they actually played this scenario out in a very similar way If there's no conclusion from voting, then Congress can choose from the top three candidates. If they fail then the current vice president becomes president." That's how it works! Did you know that? Oh yeah?! Where did this come from? It's from the Constitution

1:53:03 It says that the current vice president becomes president? Yes. Well, then everybody would be happy! Because we have Joe! Joe would be president... And I think Joe knows that there is a slight possibility of that happening He's probably happy. If you notice in the national press talking about Trump's behavior his personal behavior but what he said he did and does is a textbook definition of sexual assault. And think about this, but it's more than that he said because I'm famous because i'm a star Because! I'm the billionaire. I can do things other people can't what a disgusting assertion for anyone to make

1:54:05 The press always asks me, don't I wish I were debating him? No. I wish you're in high school. I could take him behind the gym. Take him out back kick his ass brother go Joe by the way Joe that is just as illegal as what Donald Trump did. You assert that he was talking about how he's going to assault women. You just talk about how are you gonna salt him with a difference Joe's are actually an idiot, which is makes it kind of fun. Oh that's for sure Yeah, I know this is the same guys you know that Trump that Trump's a name-caller He's a clown My favorite one. Yeah, he calls everyone a name he's a clown. He's a clown and a doofus Nobody uses doofus. I don't know why yeah But you know what? I think that the Millennials would come out en masse if he were in election I think everyone would be pretty happy if Joe was president for a while

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

EPA Flint Water Crisis, Delayed Emergency Order

A report found the EPA had sufficient information by June 2015 to issue an emergency order regarding the Flint, Michigan water crisis but failed to act until January 2016. The agency is criticized for prioritizing regulations over the immediate safety of citizens being poisoned by lead.

epa· flint michigan· lead poisoning· rick snyder· safe drinking water act

1:55:13 No, it would definitely make us happy. Yeah! Can you imagine? You know what, it doesn't matter—it's all good for the show. It really doesn't matter. It really doesn't. So there's this report, and this is a little off changing the subject. All right. A little report I just think that this is...I don't know why people don't just aren't not up in arms about the EPA? This is the EPA and the Flint Michigan thing and exactly what do these people do besides make rules and rules and rules? Let's recap for a second. Just recap for our international audience Actually, there's no need to recap because it is actually in the clip.

1:56:03 The report found the EPA had enough information in June 2015 to issue an emergency order under the Safe Drinking Water Act, but the agency did not act until January of 2016. Flint's lead poisoning began when an unelected emergency manager appointed by Michigan Governor Rick Snyder switched the source of Flint's drinking water to the Croce of Flint River in 2014. What do these people do with their time? What kind of an enforcement agency is this? They make a lot of rules and regulations to make people's lives miserable, but when they have the opportunity to actually take some action and do something that would be positive while kids are being poisoned by lead water. They do nothing! They sit on it for seven months?! Yeah... The people should be fired I mean that's obvious Oh yeah they should fire someone then no one's gonna get fired ever Here's story just wanted bring up Noclip

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Military Bonus Repayment, Pentagon Debt Collection

The Department of Defense has ordered nearly 10,000 veterans to repay enlistment bonuses received during the height of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The Pentagon is using wage garnishment and tax liens to recover the funds, a move described as a betrayal of service members who fulfilled their combat tours.

department of defense· veterans· enlistment bonuses· california national guard· irs

1:57:05 Very disturbing. Over 10,000 veterans some not even veterans still serving many of whom served multiple combat tours have been ordered by the Department of Defense to repay bonuses they received to reenlist And the story goes as follows. What? Yeah, wait for it! So the way it goes is guys and gals that had done a tour and this was around I think... This may have been around 2003-2004 and the military said well look please reenlist, re up for one more time we need people remember we needed a lot of people trying to figure out how to get in so they were handing out bonuses 15 thousand 20 thousand 25 thousand

1:57:56 And people re-enlisted, took the bonus and went out for at least one but some multiple tours just kept on going back. And now the Department of Defense has decided that these bonuses were meant for only a select few. And the 10,000 plus military service men and women who received them and they were not proper according to the Department of Defense have said okay you have to pay it back And of course, people were... and this is going on for a while now because it got to the point where they were garnishing wages. They were freezing bank accounts on these people and you know now you have these military families borrowing money or on payment plans to pay back these bonuses that they did all kinds of things with like paid off part of their mortgage

1:58:50 You know, just other things that you do with a bonus like that for the reason you got it. And the Department of Defense is pressuring these people with the IRS again to pay it back! That's ridiculous I didn't know about this. Yeah and yet the president should immediately intervene... Immediately! That'll be the day. Nice sound. Good sound effect It's really, this is and by the way hello. Oh, I was like him Hello Mr.. Trump Opportunity you should be out there pounding the hell out of this but now he should this is great This is fodder. This is fantastic can't hurt for yeah during an election period But it also hurts all these guys running for offices Senators congressmen. This is all good stuff

1:59:49 And for the Republicans, the Republicans are always looking for issues. Because it's not the Democrats can't do anything they can say anything because it's like I don't know maybe some scam going on and yeah Meanwhile, people can deliver crappy weaponry and all the rest of it. Overbill by billions of dollars. Billions? There's trillions we don't know about! I said trillions not billions. Trillions! Billions literally billions because like that Zumwalt boat...I mean that thing is a billion or two billion over budget and they don't make them pay him back but they stake to poor soldier the guy the grunt

2:00:30 get stuck with a bill for something that they were maybe, that they were used to. Now this is like illegal! Not only... First of all I want to say this from the Los Angeles Times so it's not like some crazy site this isn't you know pretty well-established journalistic institution but we have had soldiers before go to Washington and I believe that was after which war? Well, you want me to name them? Yes. Civil War. Thank you. World war one. Thank you world war two Vietnam war yeah because and the first times because they didn't like Lucy in the football Yeah Oh yes exactly I am floored by this Hey You know these guys are screwing They do have guns I don't know you just uh you gotta be careful Don't wanna piss people off like this Wow okay well

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

Rodrigo Duterte, Philippines-US Relations Pivot

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte clarified his comments about "separating" from the United States, stating he is not cutting ties but seeking a more independent foreign policy. The White House expressed concern over his rhetoric as Duterte moves to strengthen relations with Russia and China.

rodrigo duterte· philippines· south china sea· josh earnest· china

2:01:27 That would have been clip of the day. Damn it, damn it! I have an update on PBS. It just doesn't have any quotes from him but I want to make sure we keep them on the show as a regular. Duarte's on PBS This is Duterte's. Philippines has clarified comments he made yesterday about a quote separation from the United States Rodrigo Duterte says he is not cutting ties with the US but rather meant that the Philippines, quote need not dovetail the foreign policy of America in Washington White House spokesman Josh Earnest expressed concern about the leaders recent pronouncements

2:02:13 We've seen too many troubling public statements from President Duterte over the last several months. And the frequency of that rhetoric has added an element of unnecessary certainty into our relationship that doesn't advance the interests of either country." The US and Philippines have been allies for 70 years I think they're throwing down the gauntlet. They're going to go after this guy. Of course, that's how it ended. Now the thing is...I didn't have a clip of it but I had a clip of it. But wait John! That means we have to build up a whole new China Is Evil narrative which as we just got were doing The Russians today Well, we can swing back and pivot. Pivot? Pivot. There was a clip of him

2:03:03 in China, I believe going on and he said something that was un-understandable but it was something along the lines of the whole world is against us. There's only three countries Russia China and the Philippines that will stand up against the entire world. So he's got the New World Order vision He's Trump! And I think this is gonna develop into a just a good ongoing segment for the show Good well we like him, we like him when we can even understand them

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

New York Times Podcast Strategy, Advertising Challenges

The New York Times is expanding its podcast library to attract younger subscribers, despite imminent newsroom cuts. The hosts critique the Times's struggle to monetize the medium and their realization that download metrics are an unreliable measure of actual listenership.

new york times· podcasting· advertising· michael barbaro· downloads

2:03:42 Which is rare. You know there was an article in the New York Times, The Public Editor which I guess is kind of the ombudsman Yeah like an ombudsman and it caught my eye because of the title Taking The Plunge Into The Podcast Pool Oh God! Oh yeah! And the New York Times Is Used To A Change Of Costume That's Right Now more repackaging is underway, this time with the goal of creating a whole library of Times journalism you can listen to while driving or making dinner. It's The Papers Podcast! And as the project enters its sixth month, a familiar question is arising... What should The Times look like in this form? Or more precisely what should it sound like? See they do everything by committee there over at New York Times and um This is really a fabulous article They have a- check this out

2:04:33 with a five-person team, John. They have five person team for this podcast which is modest on timezine scales it says it right here. It's modest on PBS scale too. It says it right here! That's fantastic. It says modest 5? It says modest on timescales with five people yeah you made that up no no it's right here in the new it's her article They're already producing a lively podcast on the election, an adventurous talk show on popular culture and a new podcast due out next month in game show format. Woo! Oh that's just a steal from Wait Don't Tell Me But does it make sense for The Times to be directing its talent and money toward podcasts when newsroom cuts are imminent? And every position is precarious? This is a very good question of course Now

2:05:29 She's going to try and explain why. If you buy into the prevailing in-house theory, the answer to that question is yes! So that means The New York Times believes they need to steer their money towards podcasting instead of newsroom personnel. If you buy into the, oh sorry I got that prevailing in-house theory audio is part of the future because it... no listen no stop something stepping on is the best line New York Times by the way ladies and gentlemen The Grey Lady The Bastion Of Journalism

2:06:09 Audio is part of the future because it attracts young people who aren't typically time subscribers. So the idea is, John do you have a pen? You gotta write it down! I'm writing it down... So the idea is to lure them with free podcasts with the hope of getting them to take paid subscriptions. Wow. And this is the in-house belief The show hosted by the political writer Michael Barbaro does everything that time should do more of in the rest of its operations. It brings listeners right into the room, it treats them like insiders and it doesn't just assume they'll keep coming back...it works for it! See? They're working really hard there and um...they go on this is goes on and on and on until we get to the part which is of course the most interesting hold on

2:07:19 It is not just a matter of drawing listeners, you also have to attract advertisers. Wow! A lightbulb moment! Thus far big brands have been reluctant to peel off some of their advertising dollars for a bet on podcasts I don't know why but that whole sentence sounded really degrading denigrating We had to peel off a few... Here's a 20 for you stupid podcaster I'm peeling off one Peeling off a one. Those that do sign on find it difficult to measure the size of a podcast audience because at the moment, not like we discovered this 10 years ago but at the moment The most reliable measure is downloads and just because you downloaded a podcast doesn't mean you listen to it Wow what a discovery I never thought of such a thing But wait! Followed by

2:08:20 The same as with a newspaper you subscribe to but only read twice a week. Whoa! Fire that lady! You don't want anyone, you didn't want anyone to be thinking that. Nooo...that was bad But what she's trying to say and this is what the Times is going to use I guess in their sales pitch Well, you advertise it in the newspaper, you don't know if people are reading it This is how stupid these people are Yeah they're unselling their other-their cash cow It's funny. Is this podcast generation going to convert to time subscribers after a few episodes of The Run-Up? Possibly, but it's a real bank shot! Is it going to turn the spigot on a gushing new revenue stream? Not likely... But sometimes reasons of journalism are good enough Holy crap I give these fuckers 10 more years they're dead This can't last He's deluded

2:09:19 Um, so look you're never going to accurately count downloads. It's a farce is not gonna happen it's technically not possible unless everyone's registered and you have an app that you control on the people's device done this is not possible You stupid New York Times Well they did bring up what they brought up was the same stuff we've been hearing actually since before We started doing this show It's the same issues and it's just bogus. And podcasting, what is the difference between podcasting and radio in any real sense? You can cuss on podcasts. There's no antennae there's no transmitter... There's only one difference that matters. There's something called Arbitron. There's an agreed-to belief system called the Radio Ratings. Until you have a belief system that everyone agrees to which doesn't I mean we've been looking at it for 10 years

2:10:22 Yeah, there's no belief system. I mean you can't... Oh it's number one on the iTunes list! Which is about as bogus as any list. No that's why we have to do the Value for Value model for uh.. To pay for the podcast because its the only thing... I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all of people who could deal with us Oh yeah that'd be fab On KnowAgenda I was hoping to cue that a little better, but... Yeah well i know how i can cut it in the edit. It'll sound great! Don't worry about it. I'm sorry i was waiting for you to end and i thought you ended it. I was about to go into a thing that would be perfect segue. You need a switch? I need a light that goes lights up in your place yeah so oh now it's time to uh to play the g- you want to do your i'd love to hear what you were gonna say

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Dame Terry and Sir Harvey Lee

The hosts thank high-level donors for the upcoming ninth anniversary show. Terry is anointed "Dame Terry of Tosa," and Sir Harvey Lee is promoted to Baronet. The segment includes various birthday wishes for producers and a discussion on the "Value for Value" funding model.

donations· knighthood· dame terry· harvey lee· anniversary

2:11:16 I don't remember now. But, I knew it was coming so... James we do have a few people to thank and we're gonna thank them for show 871 as we get toward ninth anniversary on Wednesday October 26th We've been doing this for nine years you know let the times and all these guys big blowhards come on with their new ideas that have been done for way longer than we've been doing this podcast, these mistakes. But do they ever call and ask what do you think about this? No. Let's start by thanking a few people starting with James Edwards at 12345 and he has a quickie call out for Mosley I guess. Mosley is a douchebag! Anonymous comes in at the same amount 12345

2:12:13 And he's in Denver. This is what? I get that sun in my eyes again, Matt Asbury. You podcast you're doing this show in a darkened room. Yes, Matt Asbury $119 and 20 with 23 cents. What do we have here? We have a call out of somebody being knighted. Let me see, dear Adam and John please accept my donation of $119.21 to complete my knighthood while I know agenda knighthood is truly the pinnacle of human achievement i would like this title to go more to my wonderful wife Terry she's been listening beside me for six years and what yeah he sent us in as an email

2:12:57 He had a bunch of people give him a knighthood and he realized he already had one. He never called it out, so he put this together as good note to keep reading. Okay I see... She's been listening beside me for six years and is the most delightful listening partner one could ask for. In addition to being the finest wife mother and partner of my life journey please anoint her Dame Terry of Tosa I'd request on her behalf that Harf, eggs and Lee sauce be served at the table that is round. Hmm... hold on a second. Not familiar with this? What is Harf, eggs and Lee sauce?" That's when the spokesperson for the Defense Department was Maria Harf. And she had her egg frozen by Matt Lee!

2:13:45 Yeah, bam. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. I think you're right. Got it? Okay, I'm gonna put that into the roundtable rewards right now. Can you finish up the note john As we serve the table at this round, I would like to request new human resource Karma as she is in the seventh month of production. And I will deliver our third human resource in December counting to follow. No, I'm going to give it to you. Absolutely here you go. You've got karma. Wesley K. Walker in Pacifica, California came with $100. Jay Kumar our buddy who I always thought was a knight already but I guess what was wrong he did send a little note in which I will grab he came in with 100 bucks it's a check and it's just another hundred bucks for the best podcast in the universe this election season has been a pain to endure but your analysis has been entertaining and informative as always

2:14:46 Anyway, he's on his way to knighthood and he says don't raft Okay, I got that at the end of the show but at the end of this show. Yeah Harvey Lee not of the hearth eggs 9999 these are We got three of these, Kendall Brian Jr. and Jacksonville Florida 9999 David Fugazotto in parts unknown. Why do you think we only got three 9-9ers? I don't know. It's either a bug or no one cares there you go! Or i think there is this element too

2:15:26 Let's see I can give it. Oh, I'm gonna give it. I'm fine with you 9999 I do on the Thursday show which is the anniversary show why should I do it today? And again anything extra out of it and although what you get out of as you get more attention But too late Chad door meanwhile comes in 9997 Which is a seven of nines and sir Jackery night of the bluff was the bluffs something Boobs boobs boobs boobs boobs my bluff City Bluff City. Brian Leslie in Bremerton, Washington. Boobs! Boobs! Boobs! Baron Sir Pete in Amsterdam? Sir Pate. Pate. Baron of Northern Holland and Friesland. Eric Macarowicz I think is Socorro New Mexico No no Nanette Shiflett

2:16:27 I think it got that right. 6666. Oh, she has a douchebag call out for Sir Brimrose and I see a birthday for Mountain Vortex on the list? Yeah, I didn't know was his birthday is he on the list but he is now OK and then we have somebody who've I don't know they fill the whole page Chris Wilson from seawards from yeah, he's got a birthday first son Felix turning seven so that's on Okay, Sam now am I correct on this next one which is Sam Godwin in San Jose? That's what I got. Okay $55 and then we have 50 dollar donors just a few of them to again slow day And I'll read him place and location name place the location was placed in locations the same thing

2:17:21 Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan. Patrick Macom is Sir Patrick who's in New York City. Jason Daniels parts unknown Brandon Mank I think as a sir too and Tempe Arizona Andrew Beard in Powhatan Virginia Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville Georgia Benjamin C. Smith in Oakland, who might be a knight by now I think he is, don't remember and Sir Matthew Tanner or Mark Tanner who's definitely a knight and probably beyond that by now in Whittier California want to thank all these folks and the ones that came out with lesser amounts of money for helping us on show 871 and then we got our anniversary show coming up next Thursday. The big celebration on Wednesday off course alright well thank you

2:18:13 Yeah, I hope we see at least some more Saxon 9s to know that you love us for our birthday. Nine years long time! Yes, it's a very long time. We'll make ten for sure and the product just gets better and better Outstanding product and I thank everybody and we have a couple of requests so throw them all in here as we do have some requests for karma and some f-cancer stuff Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs That's one mother I like to You've got karma.

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Gitmo Nation Rings

A formal knighting ceremony is held for Dame Lauren, Sir Abs, and Dame Terry. The new knights and dames are instructed to visit the "No Agenda Nation" website to provide information for their official rings.

knighting· dame lauren· sir abs· gitmo nation· rings

2:19:00 And today we apparently say happy birthday to Mountain Vortex, one of our dudes named Ben who keeps everything running. I don't see him in the back channel and don't know how old he is but we congratulate him of course! Matt Aspreys says happy birthday to Terry celebrating on the 25th Karen Schrock Happy Birthday to her husband Nigel He turns twenty-five today Chris Wilson says happy birthday to his son Felix seven on October 29th Ryan Leslie's celebrating and Abine Mehta is celebrating on the 25th birthday from everybody here at that outstanding product known as the best podcast in the universe. Let me see what we have, I believe we have a title change which is good and this is for Sir Harvey Lee becomes a baronet. Congratulations my good sir looking forward to you. You had to tell me again where did that wee come from? Someone sent it to

2:19:56 I think it's just the funniest thing for some reason. It's great, i agree! It's a fan favorite You know...it's the length perhaps or the timing? I don't know why it's so funny. It shouldn't be funny at all. There we go sorry Let me see, did we get a mountain vortex saying how old he is? No. Okay. Yes you did that all right So sir Harvey Lee looking forward to your next step on the ascension ladder my friend when you get a protectorate and now it is time for A few knightings that we have sword please here comes All right

2:20:36 Let's see, we need Lauren to come up here. Her husband Richard McCutcheon sent her We need Abanay Mehta to step up as well as Terry whose husband Matt Asbury brought her onto the stage Wow this is gonna be great because we got not one but two dames and one knight so I hear by pronounce the K-D Dame... oh shit... Dame Lauren Sir Abs Knight of the Gitmo Nation East Deplorables And Dame Terry of Tosa! For you we got Hookers and Blow Rent Boys in Chardonnay, We have Harfags with Leaf Sauce Cuban Cigars a Single Malt Scotch Ass Cream with Bear Fillings Bong Hits & Bourbon Ginger Ale & Gerbils And Mutton and Mead. Still hard to get through it with my voice I'm falling apart still from the physical problems

2:21:26 Oh, you still have that issue? It's better but I'm at the tail end of it now. Yeah oh good yeah thank you a lot of people sending in all kinds of ideas for remedies and stuff i'm good uh hey um for the three of you for our two dames and one night go to noahjindernation.com slash rings make sure you give eric the show all of the info so we can get those rings to you post haste very excited and we love it when you tweet something out so we can show that to the people what it's all about All right. Yeah, all right. I've got a couple of things that we let's play this little thing This was only this again not reported really by the mainstream media because along from as these things began and i think 2005 is a long investigation of this corrupt Chicago Police Department use the word corrupt

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

Chicago Police Corruption, Code of Silence Investigation

The Intercept published a four-part investigation titled "The Code of Silence," detailing corruption within the Chicago Police Department. Two whistleblowers who exposed officers taking bribes from drug dealers were reportedly harassed and forced out, while the corrupt officials retired with full pensions.

chicago police· whistleblowers· the intercept· corruption· fbi

2:22:18 And this is just the beginning of what was a 10-minute segment, but I just have a little bit that kind of sums it up. Only Democracy Now! would play this. Chicago police officers who blew the whistle on a gang of their colleagues after they discovered they were demanding bribes from drug dealers in the housing projects of Chicago, arresting their rivals and blocking any internal investigations into their actions The two whistleblowers, Shannon Spaulding and her partner Danny Echeverria, spent five years working with the Chicago Police Department and the FBI in their case only to be sidelined—outed as informants threatened and eventually forced out of the police department. In contrast, the named senior officials and cops who helped cover for their fellow officers were able to retire from the force with their pensions intact and faced no punishment for their role in the cover-up.

2:23:08 Spaulding says she has even received death threats. She and her partner both took stress-related medical leaves, and she's been diagnosed with posttraumatic stress disorder. Their ordeal is chronicled in a four part investigation published by The Intercept called the Code of Silence. Part one is headlined In the Chicago Police Department If the Bosses Say It Didn't Happen, it didn't happen Yeah Well, what's interesting about this story which is a whopper and just covers the whole corrupt scene. It was written by a somewhat famous local investigative reporter nobody would pick up the story. They went no no we're not going to run this story so you had to go to The Intercept

2:23:53 Who I will say, that I catch myself reading more and more Intercept articles. Yeah they finally got their act together after this early year where you know they bring an editor in he quit he says it's a piece of crap nobody knows what they're doing but they've stabilized them that you're right they got some good stuff in there now yeah And they've also limited what they're doing because that was my problem like oh you just let journalists go and they write 20 pages of too much Yeah, no that's why editors are even though most writers are big fans of editors. Editors are important for a lot of writers I remember I was at We had this guy that was the editor PC computing who is a friend in my name There were two things that were fascinating about him his name was John Zilber he is now a PR guy

2:24:43 And Zilber was one of these guys who liked to write. And when he was a columnist or writer, just reporter, you know, he would have editors that would stop him from going on and on once he got control over his writing. He's the editor now. He would write these unbelievably long hellos, you know because the editors weren't supposed to say anything except well hello on this issue we got this and that and the other thing he would go on for days because no one could stop him a lot of editors seem to be of the ilk that they understand why they need to be editors right? Because they write too long And the other fascinating thing about him is that he'd always try to do these puns for titles

2:25:27 And they were always dreadful. Like Confucius says, pretty much. Yes well kind of but it's like anything else if you keep doing something this is a message to everyone you keep doing something and then all of the sudden they were all gold so could you give me a headline for this? I mean, that's how it was. So it was the headlines that he would start started to write were beyond good interest. They were just like wow what did what happened? Well how did the change come about? I think just through trial and error failure yeah fails and never give up well I'll say that one of the biggest problems of blogging and podcasts is decided take you there is a you know you don't have a station manager program director and editor

CHAPTER 35 / 42 Discussion

Podcast Length, Self-Editing and "Acne" Clip

The hosts discuss the challenges of self-editing and maintaining an entertaining show length, typically aiming for three hours. The segment concludes with a humorous vintage clip from the Joe Bob Briggs show regarding "fallen nature" and acne.

podcasting· editing· chat room· joe bob briggs· humor

2:26:20 And you have to do that yourself. You have to self-edit, and we do it on the fly but I'll say the one thing We always talk about after the show is total length of the whole program and of bits and of clips and what are we in? It's usually you telling me that was too long That was a pretty good impression usually usually that's true. You always tell me it's too long on the show So there's that, but we try to do the show in two hours and 45 minutes. And we've rarely hit it last show is short at 248 but generally speaking they hit around 255-305 three or three hours and in a normal environment even though people don't really object to the length of the shows that but in a normal environment they'd be fixed no you're done yeah at this time and what we're talking about here

2:27:09 This thinking about what is too long? What is the length, you know. What remains entertaining it's not easy to do I'm sorry It's real easy because there are at least 10 guys in the chat room who could do a show they know exactly how it works Yeah, I think they should go do one and get out of that chat. In fact, I got some advice for them Oh here play the childhood The woman says, acme. Play the chat because these guys in the chat room I think have this problem Your sins have to pop out somewhere Little children have acne Why? Well i can tell you why What little boys do in the bedroom at night It's a natural process of the fallen creature what he does in the bedroom at night You tie his hands The catholics used to tie their hands Tie the girls' hands Weren't doing good Tie them all you want Because it is in there nature It's a fallen nature what they do in the bedroom at nigh

2:27:58 Why does he act mean that's why I act means on these young people's face. That's what they do You are probably gonna find this hard to believe This is one of the clips that I accidentally deleted, I had this clip so i'm going to give it to you I like that. And that was someone pretty well known too, I think in the... That was Sister something or other she was from this was on a Joe Bob Briggs show you did a show for about nine episodes and in the 90's where he just ridiculed all these preachers and he'd dig up clips like that. That was really funny. Summarizing a number of emails I've received

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Evan McMullin, Mormon Church Political Neutrality

A listener provides feedback on candidate Evan McMullin, clarifying that the LDS Church maintains political neutrality and does not fund specific candidates. There is speculation that McMullin, a former CIA officer, is being used to split the conservative vote in states like Utah and Arizona.

evan mcmullin· mormon· lds church· utah· cia

2:28:45 regarding our little segment that we did on Evan McMullin, the CIA Goldman Sachs Mormon candidate. Yes whose name keeps cropping up more and more as why is he getting so many votes? He's so popular! Yeah Adam I'm sure you will get multiple emails about this no need to respond they know you're busy not a sir John Arama As a Mormon, I can promise you that Evan McMullin is not being funded by the Mormon Church. I guarantee it! The LDS church constantly reaffirms its position as a politically neutral organization and never condemns or endorses any political parties or candidates period Occasionally the LDS church will take a position on specific piece of legislation if the legislation directly addresses specific moral issues such as abortion but they never endorse a specific candidate

2:29:33 I just read a letter from the pulpit last week written by the first presidency of the LDS church which encouraged church members to participate in the political process and to evaluate for themselves who to vote for. I'm an active member of the church, i've talked dozens of my LDS brothers and sisters that's latter-day saints for those who don't know about this election and have only met one who was actually my sister who is planning on voting for McMullen Thank you for your courage. And of course I wrote back, and said hey that's good i'll clarify this although there is a difference between endorsing and funding so we don't really know if there's no funding because that's what I was talking about but I'll take it at face value who do you think they're going to vote for?

2:30:13 And he comes back and says, well it's hard to say. The majority of Mormons are conservative especially in Arizona but there are many democratic leading Mormons as well I would guess that as a whole there is a higher ratio of libertarians than there is in the rest of the US population. I agree you know having been to Utah twice having done meetups several Latter-day Saint brothers and sisters were there uh I agree very libertarian but he does say if I had to guess I would say most Mormons will vote for Trump how about that? You know, it's possible. That's not the feeling this guy's finest by the CIA They're trying to screw up the election so they can get Biden in It's a great plan split it all away and this guy could easily be number three you never know It could happen So I appreciate the feedback and I loved our LDS brother-and-sister listeners he always got interesting things to say

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

Numerology in Donations, Michael Martin Query

In response to a producer's question, the hosts explain that their interest in numerology stems from the creative donation amounts sent in by listeners. Patterns like palindromes and the "6969" donation became recurring themes within the show's funding ecosystem.

numerology· donations· value for value· palindromes· 6969

2:31:08 Yeah, well they're isolated. Well you know a lot of people say Mormons are crazy that's not my experience at all at all So while your reading notes we do have a note belated note from the last show from associate executive producer who I mentioned that he should send a note in and i guess it was an associate executive producer Michael Martin I'd like to thank...I'd like to ask for a thorough de-douching You've been de-douched I've been listening since around episode 650 and the guilt of not holding up my half of the value for value system has been messing with my karma.

2:31:53 I'd like to ask Adam, you frequently discuss numerology on the show. What first piqued your interest in numerology? That was a question just an open question and finally if it's not too much to ask i'd like to look for that juice and Trump bing-bing-bong-bong we can put that at the end for ya Oh! I love to do the bing-bing-bong-bong at the end Yeah And add that juice Thank you for your passion and courage Michael Martin So... Numerology I think it's in one of our regular episodes, one of our review episodes 200 point something where we talk about this.

2:32:31 And that's the answer to the question. No, answer the question! I'm looking for the bing-bing-bong-bong don't you get it by now? I'm trying to find this... Well i'll tell you what but the numerology is not Adam's interest or my interest either one of us interested in what happened was in the early days of this show when people would donate random numbers and we mentioned all the donations from a dollar and up because there weren't that many And so we'd go through them. And there was always some people with crazy donations that meant something to them, it was a date, it was something...it was always some numerological thing and then we noticed that when we asked for certain kinds of donation like palindromes for example and this is people like they I like that no don't donate those so numerology enters into the donation system because it seems to have an attraction

2:33:19 to a certain number of people and it actually helps our donations. I don't know that there's any more to it than that. And, was it not 69-69? That was a big one for us? Yeah but that was just kind of lewd. There is numerology or just lewd So it was a big one if we went for over a year with everyone with somebody donating 6969 I was part of Carrie shirin Is idea she presented she's overboard. Yes, is that long overboard? She's long overboard and It was a winner for awhile We still have it still crops up but it's not like important right

CHAPTER 38 / 42 Discussion

Mediterranean Migrant Crisis, Libyan Coast Guard Training

Over 3,300 migrants were rescued in the Mediterranean in a single day, while the Libyan Coast Guard is accused of attacking a rubber boat. The EU plans to begin training Libyan maritime forces to manage the ongoing humanitarian disaster.

migrants· italy· libya· mediterranean· sea-watch

2:34:09 I have an update from the EU's. We don't talk about it much anymore because we've been just so incredibly busy with other things, the migrant situation continues to worsen by leaps and bounds. More than 800 of the estimated 3300 migrants rescued by the Italian Coast Guard on Friday are brought to safety They were picked up off one large boat, three smaller ones and 20 rubber vessels. And these are the lucky ones! The bodies of seven dead migrants were also recovered. The German NGO Sea-Watch says a speedboat marked Libyan Coast Guard attacked an overcrowded rubber boat in the early hours of Friday. Many of the occupants fell into the water and some are feared drowned. Libyan naval forces have denied the accusations

2:34:56 Trainings plan to start next week of up to a hundred Libyan Coast Guard members as part of an EU operation. Yeah, I can't wait for that! Will they be machine guns on their lifeboats? And note the 33... 3300. But man 3300 in one day It's outrageous. Just want to remind you of the humanitarian disaster of epic proportions that is taking place and just politicized into numbers and stuff, and deals... Can't do anything more than that it's just pure numbers. Yes thanks to our policies in the Middle East we did a great job screwing over the EU Yeah oh yeah well of course

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Wonder Woman, UN Honorary Ambassador Controversy

The United Nations named the fictional character Wonder Woman as an Honorary Ambassador for the Empowerment of Women and Girls. The decision drew criticism from those who find the character's depiction inappropriate for the role, while original actress Lynda Carter defended the choice on CBS.

wonder woman· united nations· lynda carter· dc comics· gender equality

2:35:44 The art, a callback to our artwork for the previous episode Hillary Clinton Dresses Wonder Woman had a reason which we didn't... And that was it wasn't an evergreen? The art? Yeah. No, the art was... The Wonder Woman art in the background was an evergreen but having Hillary's head on there on that specific art piece I could not find any example of that My point is- In our system! In our system yeah. I think it wasn't evergreen. Yeah we had to go into the evergreens and found that piece And uh There's a lot of good stuff in the evergreen pile But here's what interesting This is very actual

2:36:22 Because last week or yeah in this past week Wonder Woman was chosen as the symbol for the United Nations What? Yeah, let me read you before I play the clip. Wonder woman UN Hold on a second...I thought you knew this No! I'm stunned by this Yes, wonder woman named UN ambassador I'll read from CNN Is this a Marvel character or DC? Whatever it is, somebody's done a masterful job of public relations. It's disgusting! I don't know if it's Marvel or DC... I know one thing our chat room will know. Yeah give us something to do The decision comes as part of a campaign to raise awareness on sustainable development goals 5 What?! Sustainable Development Goals Five Five They have got they got goals and now it's the fifth

2:37:22 achieving gender equality and empowerment for all women and girls. Goal 5 is one of 17 goals set by the UN in 2015 to achieve a prosperous protected planet." So I get it, let's use a fictional character to show that this is malarkey! Oh, nice joeism. Let's use a fictional character to insult the women of the world! Since her inception in the midst of World War II, The iconic female warrior superhero made famous in... DC Comics has made great strides in displacing traditional female tropes such as the damsel in distress, offering instead a strong capable heroine with a strategic mind and incredible fighting capabilities who ranks as among the finest in her trade. Okay

2:38:14 So, first you say something interesting which is DC Comics. This could be a deal I would presume that they've licensed it? Oh they have to! They can't just be using that... No We need to look at the licensing for that but you can imagine in today's political correct world and our world of social justice warriors this ain't playing very well let's Let's talk to Gail over at CBS who has the one and only Linda Carter, the original Wonder Woman on the show. The UN didn't pick a female secretary general as a petition because you're getting this recognition and drawing some scrutiny because of the way your dressed. No but listen what they are saying though Linda A large breasted white woman of impossible proportions scantily clad

2:39:04 in a shimmery thigh-bearing bodysuit with an American flag motif and knee high boots is not an appropriate spokeswoman for gender equality at the United Nations. She would, by the way be very appropriate spokeswomen for The No Agenda podcast I think it'll be perfect Exactly An appropriate spokeswoman for gender equality at the United Nations into that you say what? Can I say it? Probably not. I think it's ridiculous. You can say that, yeah. I can say its bold. Why do you feel that way? Because they're nitpicking on something that has nothing to do with anything. It is a superhero, number one and that gender it has nothing to do with anything They want to pick on you know Wonder Woman is an idea This is not the American flag this is about fighting for freedom

2:40:03 Oh God. This is great! So she's actually defending the use of the Wonder Woman character? Of course she is, because she has a gig... Hello?! Exactly and there's a gig involved, there's a movie involved... Money!!! And if you listen to the beginning... The UN didn't pick a female Secretary General. I have petitioned because you're getting this recognition She's not getting the recognition This is how dumb they are. You, Linda Carter are getting the recognition... No! It's a fictional character Wonder Woman getting the recognition. But okay. Insanity of the elite acting class. United Nations is so porous and corrupt I guarantee you someone can get me the information on the licensing deal that was signed for this and I'd like to know how much money it was? I'd like to know what was the deal if the United Nation just said oh we're going use Batman

2:41:01 just to make it easier, which is quite a franchise. You think for one second that there wouldn't be a problem with that? No no you're right there's a deal that went down Yeah but I want to know what is and why are they spending their money on this dumb shit Well, there's that. For the movie! Oh gee I forgot when is the movie coming out? Is it coming out soon? The chat room knows...I've now decided not to go to the book of knowledge anymore just throw it in the chatroom. Yeah 2017 apparently Okay well this is prelude

2:41:40 And we've fallen prey to since we used a Wonder Woman character in our art. I know, yeah. Oh, I love it how people say... Playing into the hands of Hollywood! I love how people say you know Adam just use the internet and I'm doing a show dosh What kind of feedback is that? You just told them why... The chat room is in real funk today Real Funk They know all they know better Names I Know It started with the smart stove and it went downhill from there. Oh, the smart stove! I've seen a smart stove at Best Buy What makes is so smart? It's got buttons and its got an LED Connects to the web man And you hook into the web and turn on this burner Hey watch watch watch I'm sitting on the couch right Watch watch watch See with my app I turned the burner on Alright The cat was sitting on it I-I-I got one more clip here

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

Obama Health Care Speech, "Thanks Obama" Meme

President Obama delivered a speech defending the Affordable Care Act, arguing that premium increases are often the fault of employers rather than the law. The hosts mock the President's dismissal of consumer concerns and his use of the "Thanks Obama" meme.

barack obama· obamacare· health insurance· premiums· memes

2:42:39 Now this is the weakest of the two Obama clips I had so the other one will come on Thursday. I like that, yeah! But it got away, but I did get this little trout. Here yes, I have the trout version of the whale that is coming on Thursday he did a 46 minute speech on Obamacare remember this is all going down now because you know we've got that architect Zeke out there trying to smooth everything over and blame Republicans so he didn't say this And as I said part of this is just health care is complicated think about this speech has been pretty long and your just thinking wow

2:43:20 take a picture with the president or something. Which is some self-awareness there! So it's hard to get people focused on the facts and even reporters who cover this stuff, and they do a good job they're trying to follow all the debate but a lot of times they just report premium increases And everybody thinks wow my insurance rates are going up It must be Obama's fault It is. Even though you don't get health insurance through Obamacare, you get it through your job! And even though your increases have gone up a lot slower... No they haven't! No the increases are slower than they would've been Oh I see You don't know what you're talking about Yeah save or destroy jobs It was- no it was avoid delay That's what it was Gone up a lot slower

2:44:21 Or suddenly you're paying a bigger copay. Thanks Obama! Yeah! Thanks Obama! That's a good one, that's a clip-clip. Thanks Obama! You don't think I had it ISO'd already boss? Thanks Obama! Sounds good... Noooo, I had nothing to do with that Yes you did So part of it is this is complicated the way it gets reported There's a lot of Hysteria around anything that happens. Thanks Obama! It's just hysteria and it's not his fault, it's your job Yeah, it's everybody's fault but his. Yeah, it's your job man Nothing has been his fault I don't even have insurance anymore. I'm going with the...I'll pay the fine and I'll negotiate for cash

CHAPTER 41 / 42 Discussion

South China Sea Tensions, Taltz Psoriasis Commercial

The USS Decatur sailed near the Paracel Islands, prompting a rebuke from the Chinese military. The show concludes with a critique of a pharmaceutical advertisement for the psoriasis drug Taltz, highlighting the extensive list of dangerous side effects required in the disclaimer.

south china sea· uss decatur· china· psoriasis· taltz

2:45:13 There you go. I only have one last clip. I can't get in until the exchanges open up again and then it'll be... It opens up like in a day or two. Yeah, soon, I know. I don't think I can afford it. I'll see what's there but I don't think I can afford that. No, it will be like 7000 a day. It's unbelievable how high it is. Alright! This is a little thing to keep us up-to-date on what's going on. We're always chiding China, we're doing this screwing around... We got this Philippine guy he's making trouble. This is the South China Sea. There's the latest update on harassment A US Navy warship sailed near disputed islands in the South China Sea today

2:45:53 drawing a stern rebuke from China. The USS Decatur drew close to the Paracel Islands, one of the territories contested by China and its neighbors before two Chinese ships warned it to leave. China's defense ministry called the move illegal and provocative. There you go! Yeah well we're up-to-date for sure Yeah, that's so much. Is that everything? Do we have nothing else to do no I guess a couple of things but they're there and they can keep till Thursday. I just want one that makes me just feel good. Well that's the one i don't have well I got it I got one of those drug commercials. Oh yeah, drug commercial always good yeah what because this drug commercial has got more stuff on the screen they've changed the law or something about these commercials so instead of the guy having to warn you about all the bad things that are going to happen they put it on the screen

2:46:47 It's like you have to read all this crap. You have to stop motion the playback So they're not doing there's nothing I'm doing a disclaimer with the voice no They got that they got they have a bunch of disclaimers apparently They have to do but then most of them are it's a new drug for psoriasis That could kill you, I don't know how bad What is right? What is psoriasis? It's like a skin rash, flaking. It's horrible looking thing if it depends on where it shows up. Oh! I think dandruff is a mild form of psoriasis. Right so its like the white scaly skin? Yeah or your big patch of semen you grab and then a whole sheet comes off. Its borderline leprosy

2:47:27 And so here's the uplifting hard sell. These things should all be illegal, these commercials but there is one for Tulsa or Tulsi. When you're close to the people you love does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? If you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with TALTS. TALTS is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. With TALTS up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement in their psoriasis plaques In fact 4 out 10 even achieved completely clear skin. Woo! Four out of ten what a great ratio. Yeah I think vinegar gives you those numbers. Do not use if you are allergic to TALTS before...

2:48:15 How do you know if you're allergic if you haven't used it yet? This is great. Wait, any vaccine?! Yeah! Isn't that just anybody? I guess. You have received a vaccine or plan to, inflammatory bowel disease can happen with TALTs including worsening of symptoms serious allergic reactions can occur now's your chance at completely clear skin just ask your doctor about TALTs you might die

2:48:56 Wow. Yeah, some great stuff. Here's your chance like 40% according to their own advertisement Just love that ratio Well there is a 40% chance we'll be back on Thursday I think it's higher than that Okay We'll go with 90-90% Alright alright we will be here Alright everybody thank you very much for being there in the chat room Thank you for supporting our little podcast Because we can't get advertisers to peel off money and let us do our thing, it's up to you. Which means you need to remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA moreover because it will be our ninth anniversary show! And you know that promise is nothing but gelatinous goodness Oh yeah

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

Show Outro, Trump "Bing Bong" Remix

The episode concludes with the signature "Adios, mofos" sign-off and a musical remix featuring Donald Trump's "bing bing bong" and "China" vocalizations. The hosts remind listeners of the upcoming ninth anniversary show.

adios mofos· donald trump· remix· closing credits· anniversary

2:49:49 Alright, amen. Ice cream! Free ice cream for everyone. Coming to you from the Crackpot condo here in the skyscraper in downtown Austin Texas on the map you'll find it in FEMA region number six and from northern Silicon Valley and I don't remember this FEMA regions seven six five three...I do not know. I'm John C. Duporak We will talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda And then finally say good morning everybody I am Adam Curry Adios, mofos! Oh my gosh. Can you see that juice? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

2:50:53 is making absolutely sure that Hillary Clinton is our next president. This woman has never been satisfied with proposals from Trump for increasing his funding or improving your education. This woman has never been satisfied. Hillary Clinton believes in keeping her people, she believes in our dreamers. This woman has never been satisfied. At long last, our wealthy vindictive paranoid narcissistic power hungry president will have a vagina. A vagina! She'll have a vagina. Bitch. This changes. This woman has never been satisfied. This woman has never been satisfied. This woman has never been satisfied. The greatest country on earth

2:52:02 We have always been about tomorrow. Your children, your children will bless you forever. Why are you laughing? God bless you! Thank You! Shut up! Shut Up! We came... we saw and died. Shit! Whoa whoa whoa whoa

2:52:44 Hello everybody. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot Now everyone hug and share a secret! We just need cash I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water Just send your cash. Amen

2:54:14 Oh no. It's different for the media, so everything you learn about this you're learning from it's different for the media So everything you learn about this You're learning from us and in full disclosure let's take a look at what is it near and what it means Through WikiLeaks that she says one thing... Uh... Through WikiLeaks that she says one thing... Uh... Through WikiLeaks that she said one thing... Uh... F*** off! No It's different for the media. So everything you learn about this, you're learning from us. It's different for the media so everything you learn about this You're learning from us. Jeb Bush or Hillary are one of these politicians all talk no action All controlled by lobbyists and donors and donors all controlled by lobbyists and donors owners owners all controlled by lobbyist and donors and donors People like me from previous months Okay?

2:55:13 Bang, bang, bing-bing-bong. Bing-bing-bing-ching-choo! Oh, I'm not gonna be any good if they didn't give me money Not gonna be any good if they didn't take care of my mom I couldn't care less Couldn't care less You are going to love me Bang, bang, bang, bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bing-bang China, China, China from China And I love China Nothing wrong with China

2:55:58 I love the Mexican people, they have tremendous spirit. They're taking your job, taking your money, they're taking everything and i'm gonna win that Hispanic vote! Sure! Bing bong bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bong China, China, China from China You are going to love President Trump Bing China, China, China from China You are going to love President Trump Bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bong

2:57:04 Bing, bing, bing. You know what that is right? Adios mofo. Thanks Obama.