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00:00 The blimp has landed. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday October 6th 2016 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 866 This is no agenda Twice as effective as SSRIs to keep you sane and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin Tejas, FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley Confucius say man become old when he watch food instead of waitress. I'm John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill! In the mornin' Oh boy how long are you gonna keep this up? This Confucius stuff

00:41 Well, let's see. Let me look at the book because every one of these sayings is numbered. Let me see what the last number is... 250! Okay great nice so around episode 1000 we will finally be free of it great well no people are now suggesting new ones oh please they suck they just suck They're supposed to suck Come up with something I'm surprised someone hasn't called me out for being insulting to Confucianism Anyway, so a little bit early for those listening in on the live stream I will be heading off to New York you know the keeper and I go into New York tomorrow. I'm speaking on a panel for new There was at the new house school no media yeah well No, it's radio It's actually broadcasting and I guess I'm supposed to be the troublemaker on the panel

01:34 You sure? Yes, very sure. I hope they know that because they have the chief marketing officer from iHeartRadio like the chief operating... So you're not going to be the trouble maker but you'll be the a-hole Well that's one way of looking at it. I don't want to be the a-hole! We need to discuss it later and I wanna talk to you and come up with some ideas for what I should do so It really benefits us. I hope so Working on it working on lose our audience overnight. Yeah, no kidding! Alright okay so we got a what do we have? Oh yes I remember well let's start off with the we had the vice president debate yeah but i didn't get any clips from it because it was just one guy ranting about Trump that would be Tim Kaine and by the way

02:32 I don't think it's absolutely the best. Yeah, yeah, I mean I know people that are much better but in the Bay Area if you kind of pick it up You I'm totally convinced that Tim Kaine is a closeted gay? I would like to hear from our gay listeners mm-hmm what they think I Think he's just goofy no Maybe and I don't really care Because I do well Hillary's gay too. So it's all good. Yes, that's what I mean is get all the gate ticket I did get a couple of clips I thought first of all anyway believe I believe Buchanan and his running mate may have Buchanan was our first gay president that you know everyone was kind of reluctant to admit to because there's the opportunity to elect eventually someone's gonna be out gay and

03:23 Running for president right in some time in the future not like Hillary and they want to be able to leverage that but you can't leverage it as the first gay president if you already had a Gay president you can write in office so all right Like Hilary's leveraging the first female although we may have had a woman before. We don't know I Okay, so I have a...I do have a couple clips from the debate. Just in general what was just your observation? Was your overall view of those things? I was very hard to watch it was mostly bickering It was one guy going oh brother and the other guy going me-me-me-me-me Yeah that's my summary Do you think there was a winner if we speak of a winner? Oh yeah Pence. Pence. Yeah I agree

04:12 Well, he's just a cool... He seems like a cool customer. Yes and I think I got two little things in it. It was so odd really to watch it where I felt both the moderator and Cain were just continuously talking over Pence and then of course Pence started talking over everybody else. And just that it was kind of a mess It was it was really poorly done. Yeah, yeah a 40 million viewership I think which is uh you know less than half of or about half of what? What the presidential debate was so I guess some people kind of interested What I always like about these debates is all the news channels are out front and

04:57 And, you know they'd so they have crowds behind him. And I don't know what MSNBC is thinking but or maybe they wanted this answer from this crowd have a listen to what happened here the crowd standing behind them and it's really it's not managed. So people are there with Trump signs with you sure Bernie bros it's all kinds of stuff done Hillary stuff of course Governor Granholm last night I had the very fortunate opportunity to hang out at a sorority house here at Longwood and when Ask the women if they felt so fortunate John don't you always feel fortunate we can hang out at a sorority house? Well, I would Opportunity to hang out at a sorority house here at Longwood and when I asked the women If they felt connected to Hillary Clinton They were very very proud to see a woman get the nomination But they didn't feel connection to her. I want to actually ask the crowd behind me So Hillary Clinton as a candidate do you feel connected er? I'm gonna ask the women in the room

05:51 Why do you think this disconnected? Clearly, Governor Granholm... I love that. No, we don't feel connected at all! It's just booter. A couple of other observations again... Again the setup we had Kane on the left hand side We had Pence on the right-hand side. Again, we have the Republican in a blue tie and we had the Democrat in the red tie. I do not know why they did this Is it just to even stuff out or is it to mess with my brain? I don't know why they do that. How about just some stripes, not one solid color... anything different." And you saw maybe that Kaine pulled the big power move at the beginning, same thing Trump did to Clinton

06:44 Where he shakes his hand, they turn to the audience and he puts his left hand on Pence's back. Major power move But then the guy just seemed like a sniveling douche who wanted to be right the whole time and just, you know I guess his mission was you've got to discredit everything he says. Everything is... He's all lying lying lying. And i think he really made himself look pretty stupid from time to time here is uh well this was about 9-11 I thought Kane sounded like a dick and Pence called him on it. America is less safe today than it was the day that Barack Obama became president of the United States, its absolutely inarguable we've weakened Americas place in the world and it's been a combination factors but mostly it's been a lack of leadership I will give you and I was in Washington DC on 9-11

07:36 I saw the clouds of smoke rise from the Pentagon. I was in Virginia, where the Pentagons are. I know you were. We all lived through that day as a nation and it was heartbreaking." So...I think we've all had this at some point where you're in a conversation but you're throwing stuff out then you throw something out with that is totally wrong and that's usually when you go oh crap! I need to shut my face because he came in sounding like... I wasn't done yet. I saw 9-11 too Yeah, and Pence correctly says yeah dude we all live through a douche. I thought that was pretty cool now Did did Cain stop there no? No more interrupting this was no they both have sons in the military I pursue I guess and Caine was wearing his his military star discuss this you know the one-star flag And so they both briefly talked about their son's and what kind of implications

08:33 and handling classified information in an incorrect manner would have. that cyber warfare is the new warfare of the asymmetrical enemies that we face in this country. And I look forward, if i'm privileged to be in this role working with you and the Senate, to make sure that we resource that effort. We will work together on whatever roles we have. We have an intelligence service. You see? So but I like what Penn says it's, you know, uh... I'll be working with Kaine in the Senate Pretty much implying I'll be the boss of the Senate because the vice president is the boss of the Senate. He's the tiebreaker You're saying that Cain is a douchebag Let me just roll it back and I'll get you to the douche bag part here we go We have got to bring together the best resources this country to understand that

09:28 that cyber warfare is the new warfare of the asymmetrical enemies that we face in this country and I look forward, if i'm privileged to be in this role working with you in the Senate, to make sure that we resource that. There ya go so... So Pence says really nasty and of course Cain catches it he says yeah I'll be working with you in the Senate when your still in the senate and I am the vice president which is the boss of the senate That was kind of sly Yeah, it was cute.

10:23 30 seconds. Yeah, it's not what you could maybe call that you got 10 seconds You get your white rapid but thirty is like saying you've got two minutes left. You got two minutes left No, you know you're falling behind no she's at 30 seconds there. He said 30 seconds is a lifetime I think that the way I heard it It sounded like there were instructions. If anyone brings up the emails, you just got to move along You just got to cut it off. You gotta keep going that's about it because I consistently that happened Anyone brings up the emails what we were talking about something else About drone strikes so you can hear the email thing that she responds to in this moment to remember Hillary Clinton

11:04 had a private server in her home that had classified information about drone strikes, emails from the President of the United States of America were on there. Her private server was subject to being hacked by foreign powers. We could put cybersecurity first if we just make sure the next Secretary of State doesn't The investigation concluded that not one reasonable prosecutor would take any additional step. You don't get to decide the rights and wrongs of this, we have a justice system that does that and a Republican FBI director did an investigation and concluded... Alright, we are moving on now. 250 thousand people, 100 thousand of their children, governors. That is absolutely false and you know it.

11:49 Okay, so you couldn't really hear what they were saying there? Yeah he said that my son would be thrown in the slammer for doing the same thing and you don't know that. No worse is it's absolutely not true! Absolutely not true! Well that's what brings me to if you want to step aside a little bit... That's what brings me to this story that was just breaking yes I think had something to do with it. I agree I know exactly where are going talk about this is the NSA guy This is the NSA exactly and I have a clip here. I thought it was more easily marked. Maybe we should... NSA ABC screwball report, and now you have the word agenda on here because this wasn't a-I believe this was before it was done with an agenda Yes Here we go Next to a contractor working for the NSA under arrest this evening accused of stealing top secret material on our nation's security And then storing it at his home Our senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas on the case tonight

12:46 This is the home where Harold Martin III is accused of illegally keeping some of the nation's top secrets. Stolen from the agency deploying the nation's most cutting-edge intelligence technology, The NSA. Neighbors stunned. It shocked everybody. Well actually you know I've seen FBI jackets and... You know, police. State police." Martin a contractor at the same company that Edward Snowden worked for is being held at an undisclosed location after the Argus raid that recovered classified documents and digital media material so sensitive prosecutors warned that if divulged they would cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States Once it's out of NSA

13:27 Anyone can get it. Sources tell ABC News the FBI suspects Martin stole critical computer codes that the NSA uses to hack foreign adversaries So far, the FBI is not accusing Martin of espionage but sources tell ABC News that probe is far from over And Pierre Thomas with us live tonight and Pierre the FBI says Martin admitted to taking the material Yes, David. They claim he acknowledged taking the material when confronted But it's tonight his lawyers say that he loves this country and would never betray it David now before we go into deconstruction I'm pretty sure we both have the same thoughts about this. I got a copy of the

14:06 criminal complaint against Harold Martin. So this is what the FBI... We love reading these because it really tells you why the guy was arrested, what the actual complaint is and follows the typical script of the Department of Justice in this case a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigations. He talks about his experience he knows how it works yada yada yada Now here is the offense On August 27, 2016 during execution of the warrants investigators located hard copy documents and digital information stored on various devices and removable digital media. A large percentage of the materials recovered from Martin's residence and vehicle bore markings indicating they were property of the United States that contained highly classified information of the United States including top-secret and sensitive compartmented information SCI

14:55 Among the classified documents located thus far, six of them appear to have been obtained from sensitive intelligence. These six documents are the property of the government and contain dates indicating they were produced by an agency of the government in 2014 Each of these documents bear standard markings and other indica... indicia? Indicia, that are applied to classified government information. These six documents were produced through sensitive government sources methods and capabilities which are critical to a wide variety of national security issues the disclosure of the documents would reveal those sensitive sources methods and capabilities And the final piece I marked up here, these documents contain information originated owned and possessed by the United States government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or executive order... ...to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interest of national security. So what is not mentioned in here are any hacking tools

15:52 Anything like that. And the guy said, yeah I know I took it home with me So it seems very obvious this is FBI working on behalf of Donald Trump Is that what you conclude as well? Well, I'm concluding that ABC in this case. I'm not going to take it any further than this Okay Which is ABC ran this story in such a way that it was obviously parallel to the Hillary Clinton Exactly story exact and and they even finished it off I think the ending is what's the most telling which is where he says well then they don't think he's a bad guy And

16:31 And there's no evidence that he had any motivation or I mean, everything that Hillary said like. Oh, I'm sorry I didn't do it right and I didn't mean to do it all she had no reason she wasn't motivated. It was a commentary that Comey threw out that she was know the. She wasn't inclined to break the law even though it's got nothing to do with it. It all sounds like this guy, I mean... I think he took some stuff that he wanted to work on at home personally. Yeah exactly! Which you do, you've got all this stuff and a lot of work to do they're probably making you do more than you should and so take some of it home and work. You have nothing else to be doing. Probably if he is married or has a girlfriend but

17:09 He's probably a workaholic and he's like Silicon Valley guy. They take their work home." So I agree with you that, um... That ABC def- It kind of depends on how the media picks this up if it is going to work or not because i'm sure there are people who get nabbed for this all the time. Like exactly what you said, took at home, know I shouldn't have but this is obviously FBI creating a scenario You just heard it there with the Pence-Kane debate You know, it's kind of weak. It doesn't really work well when you say, well you know if my son had do it your son had done and he'd be court-martialed now what's better is hey look at this guy! He took it home we took it home to work on it. He knew it. He says he admitted it yet he's going to jail I think that's that is the parallel they want to draw and you're right it depends on if the media will pick it up

18:02 And run with it appropriately which I don't think so some of the media that's a CBS folks in particular who also narrated that or moderated that last debate the Some of the media, that's all in for Hillary the main ones which is CBS and NBC They I think they'll figure this out that they're being played and they may not cover the story properly hmm I mean, we can figure it out both of us. You know just instantly and i think most of our listeners and producers for sure had that figured out at least to some extent. It seems so easy. So these guys will figure it out too. I think CBS will find some other way to play the story. Judge Andrew Napolitano was on Fox and he actually they brought in Binney? Was it Bill Binney

18:56 Oh, Benny. Yeah they wanted the old whistleblowers. Yes so Bill Binney was the guy wasn't he the guy on Second Street in San Francisco and the big building there and he blew the whistle on was it solar no solar wind or some crazy name? I thought he was back it's like he was in Langley or someplace back... No! He was in the shadow room there on AT&T building. Crazy building that we love to look at Exactly where they had you know pretty much a copy of the internet being made That's great building. Still there! Yeah, no windows I think you asserted that the NSA not only has a full copy of Hillary's emails but also more than likely are the source of the DNC leaks A lot of people have said that Napolitano has said that Here he is! Judge do you know... I'm sorry? Nothing, no I didn't say anything

19:52 Bill Binney, William Binney former NSA official the architect of the NSA surveillance program. Yes He says that the person as it turns out despite what the DNC and Democrats are saying It was not Russia that hacked the DNC it was perhaps it was somebody from the NSA who is angry about the fact that she was using personal email server which violated what is called gamma material, which is the most sensitive at the NSA. Do you believe that? I do believe it and one of the reasons there's so much anxiety... It's very interesting and probably going to become a issue in the campaign One of the reason there are so much anxiety about Mrs Clinton from the intelligence community

20:36 is the belief that some of the materials that she handled with such extreme carelessness, I'm using Jim Comey's phrase. In my opinion it was criminal but in the FBI director's opinion it was extreme carelessness contained the names of American undercover intelligence agents some of whom are no longer with us this is a belief for lot of people in the intelligence community." So he takes one step further there He saying that some people, he's implying that undercover agents were eliminated because of her carelessness. Yes I think he said this before, he said this a couple times apparently the way the story goes is she got some stuff in there that was carelessly handled and some guys died and some...the line guys rank-and-file of the intelligence agencies are all aware of this

21:31 And that's why they busted her. This still doesn't account for the upper echelon of the CIA being all in for her Which I'm sure annoys people too. CBS being the reflection of that. Yes, let's continue. If Mrs Clinton does become president in the United States she is going to have a lot of antipathy towards her by people in the intelligence community this is the tip of the iceberg That wasn't in the report that people might have died because names were listed and sent right? Correct Correct. The FBI did not reveal that the FBI never revealed the contents and quite properly because it's still classified sure the FBI never revealed the contents of The 25 top secret and of which five were SAP meaning even FBI agents didn't have the clearance to reveal them so bill Binney is saying of the 60,000

22:24 NSA agents and contractors. There's a critical mass who fear Mrs Clinton's presidency, and more likely than not act into the DNC and leak this." So the NSA has got him? According to them? This is a man you know well, Judge. He recently did a radio interview where he explained essentially that listen... If you had just estimate here as an analyst who your best guess uh what would be your best guess For who the hacker is, who Lucifer 2 is? In this situation I was thinking about how many other people have this data and hacked into the DNC while it's hacking into Hillary's server at home. If I go back to a statement made by Director Mueller of the FBI back in 30th March 2011 and he said that he got together with the Department of Defense and they created a technology database

23:19 where he, as a member of the FBI could go in with one query and get all past emails and all future ones as they came in on a person. Now what he's talking about is going into the NSA database so that means that NSA and a number of other agencies in the US government also have those emails So what he's saying is there's this NSA database and unbeknownst to us because there's no oversight The FBI, the CIA has access to it Comey could have looked at Hillary's email if they had him but then he'd open a whole can of worms. Right, then he would be revealing that the NSA in fact does have everybody's emails which a lot of us believe, which Bill Binney, a former NSA official who developed the software that the NSA uses says they have but which the NSA has never officially acknowledged there will also be serious criminal violations

24:10 if the FBI had unfettered access to the NSA material. The FBI has to ask for it or get a search warrant for it, did they ask? Did they get a search warrant for Mrs Clinton's materials answer no well its unthinkable that think that they could be the source of leaked emails that caused Debbie Rossman Schultz her job I can't imagine the NSA feeding Julian Assange this information, could you? Yes. That's a fact! Yes! Totally see that happening. Ah, love the judge man he is good. He is so good. By the way it was stellar... I'm aghast there's gambling going on. It was a stellar win was the name of the program

24:54 So that you know and this really that really could be true. And then of course by the way funny the guy said Lucifer 2 when we all know it's Guccifer 2, and maybe Gucci for two is indeed the NSA or some rogue version that is doing something I don't if you saw the latest release from a Gucci for 2.0 Yes, in fact I have a clip. Oh! Guccifer and the Clinton Foundation Very good...I look through all the documents for everybody so uh oops Well I looked through all of them too just to let you know A new potential leak could cause problems for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign A prominent hacker claims to have gained access to Clinton- The Clinton Foundation servers RT's Caleb Moppan reports

25:42 A hacker known as Goosepher2 says that he has penetrated and hacked into the Clinton Foundation's computer. Now, the hacker has released screenshots that he says come from the Clinton Foundation's computer and as you can see these screen shots actually contain a folder that is labeled pay to play now The hacker goes on to say that he has a list of donors to the Clinton Foundation and that he has thousands and thousands of pages, documents in a database with information about them. Now furthermore it looks as if the hacker says that he is looking for new way to release all the information that he had

26:26 because he has so much information. He's looking for a new way to release it to the public and make it available now the hacker also apparently stated that it was only a matter of time before he was able to get into the server in the hard drive at The Clinton Foundation Okay, yeah I looked at these let that go on but I I don't you can tell me what you think? Oh Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at these documents it seemed like a bunch of DNC documents to me I didn't see a lot of Clinton Foundation document well I saw what I saw was old documents and somebody revealed in a comment thread that this particularly the list of donors did 999 names or whatever it wasn't the donor's now besides being from 2010

27:09 They pointed out that this was already released years ago on some other website. And I forgot the name of the site, but it's one of those look at this site, look at this stuff sites and not DC leaks with somebody else. Open something, open secrets I think. Oh, opensecrets.org yeah sure sure sure Yeah i think this is and he said this was there already This is just plagiarized although that's not true based on what the term really means Right But it says just copied from there added here And then Scott Adams had a comment He said the conveniently labeled pay for play folder And I agree Makes it an obvious hoax

27:49 I don't think it's a hoax, but it's...because I believe the documents are real. But it's like whatever no big deal there was really nothing in there and the pay to play- Well, I agree the documents are real but I think is a hoax because these are not documents from The Clinton Foundation as you earlier observed. No. What what I did like is that one document that was interesting although again I see this as a DNC document this is what was in the pay to play folder which obviously You know name that way to you know, and it worked. You know the media is so stupid that it actually works. They go, oh pay to play! You wouldn't even think to do it because there's not the kind of thing that's on your mind if you're in a foundation. Not all sitting around hunched over rubbing their hands together going ha-ha-ha pay to play But what I did like is that so we had this list and on it are several prominent Democrats such as Barney Frank

28:50 and Nancy Pelosi. And on this spreadsheet, you'll see okay so who's in charge of Bank of America? You know, Bank of New York Mellon Capital One...and that's all Barney Frank! And then what they do is they...so you say Bank of America they received 15 billion dollars in TARP funds and then next to that it shows what they donated to the DNC So this is clearly a list that is set up You know track how friendly these guys are. Track the bribes? From the bailout, yeah the bail out bribes That's really an outrage that's an outrageous thing It was outrageous and something has to be done about that I was kind of intrigued by By the way TARP for those who don't know TARP was the 2008 bail-out that all the banks got in United States of Gitmo nation and far beyond including Deutsche Bank Yeah All the good that did

29:47 I was kind of still interested in those 900 names that were the donors. There's some email names on, there's an email on there but I'm sure they've all been changed by now but it was the West only, it was just the West Coast donors not only but that was targeted toward the West Coast so you had all the Silicon Valley billionaires on there. And if you ever want to get a look at this list, I mean you should put in the show notes... You want to see our assertion that the richest people in the world don't give any money! Well no they give money they give plenty of money to the Republicans or Democrats for whatever reason. To Hillary's opposition.

30:30 But they're not just, they're not giving money to charity. They're giving money for this is you know all part of a giant globalist scheme the way I see it. I mean not to mention that Barney Frank was a part of the Dodd-Frank bill and was intimately involved with the TARP bailout and now there's evidence... Of course he's no longer in Congress but now there's evidence that they were matching like okay you know you get 25 billion in bailouts so where's your money? That's disgusting. But that's not what I'm talking about. No, I know. I know.

31:08 confirms my assertion that the richest people in the United States are all Democrats. None of them are Republicans, I mean there's...I can't say none, there's a few names missing from the list which might be Republican but generally speaking but this is you could see John Doar on there, just about everybody Benioff from Salesforce is on their right to see pretty much everybody it's like a great list will go down and look at us go wow yeah Anyway, I just found that fascinating. Yeah no the corruption on the banking side is obvious and that's gonna continue when if Hillary gets elected because she's you know in bed with the banks

31:49 You know, I think we should mention to point out is that the current Wells Fargo scandal which results in a bunch of people grousing at them in Congress. Right? But it's an incredible racketeering scandal that's going on may be done by also by other banks. That's all cut where's Dodd-Frank! Shouldn't Dodd-Frank have stopped this? Or Sarbanes-Oxley, right?" Sarbanes-Oxley. Yeah! Sarbanes-Oxley totally. Totally. These laws are ineffective. Man man man... Okay so of course not only did I read through these documents you did that as well to see what we could come up with but i also set my alarm to wake up for the big October surprise Julian Assange had promised us

32:39 And it was a surprise. Yeah, it's quite a surprise because what the hell am I doing up at 5am and I got nothing? I think I predicted this on the last show you might have I think so, yeah. For those of you who did not wake up to hear nothing here is about 40 seconds of an extremely boring horrible sounding crappy chroma key hello please somebody help this guy with his keying it's really really bad the key Here is a song explaining what's not going to happen material that we should is going to publish before the end of the year is on a significant moment such as significant in different directions affecting

33:29 three powerful organizations in three different states, as well as of course the information previously referred to about the US electoral process. There's been a lot of misquoting of me and this particular case, uh... The mis- misquoting has to do with that we intend to harm Hillary Clinton or I intend to harm Hillary Clinton or I don't like Hillary Clinton All those are false. Alright PUSSY Well, we don't know that he wasn't promised something that he was going to then release and never got it. Yeah well let's look at the genesis right before you know a day or two before they had this memo which was circulated you know and Hillary Clinton said in a meeting its transcribed and documented she said can we just drone that Julian Assange guy?

34:26 Which I can understand is probably a joke, although later in the transcript she does kind of say hey he's just walking around free and we could probably do something about him. And you know so there are thoughts that oh maybe he was threatened or whatever but I don't think so! He just had nothing...He had nothing and should have cancelled it. Should've said anything but this-I dunno what his mission is? Maybe he's on the Clinton side?! I have no idea. Here's what Hillary Clinton said when queried if she had ever said, hey we can just drone Julian Assange. Did you ever joke about droning? Well i don't know anything about what he's talking about and uh... i don't recall any joke um it would've been a joke if that had been said but i don't recall that. Okay well its documented and transcribed

35:20 What did... It's documented and transcribed, but I don't remember. She does that! I think she sincerely has lost her memory. What did crop up is an interesting little tidbit about Libya, about Benghazi, Libya in general of course you know we went in with our NATO forces and we bombed the crap out of it And there was this guy Dr. Killari Paul naturalized American of Indian origin who oversaw peace efforts in Libya before the revolution And according to him, and I have email or not me but have a letter sent from Gaddafi and from his highest official to the president saying hey could you just give us a little bit of room here? You know we're trying to create peace. We're trying to work it all out. We're trying to get everything going. And according to this guy this Paul guy Clinton Hillary Clinton was mad at Gaddafi

36:17 Because he refused to back her in the 2008 election. He chose Barack Obama, so the implication here is that she actually wanted him dead because she had an axe to grind And I believe... Well, it fits in with her response when Uma Abedin hands her the blackberry that says we got him. We killed him. So, I mean that is the land of unconfirmed radius. Yes! We came, we saw he died. That'll teach you to never back me up! Crikey. A force to be reckoned with this lady is maybe she should be president? You just have to steer her properly

37:03 I don't know if anyone can do that. Bill apparently can no oh my god, oh that was so funny uh bill clinton what is it? I have, not that clip. I mean i do have the clip but it's incorporated in a long... this is actually worth playing I think This was the ABC... sorry? Well you have.. because he said a lot more than the sound bite that everyone responded to Well good because then you probably have it so you can play that But this was incorporated in ABC's Trump update which included The Gaffe and a bunch of other stuff and this was again

37:42 At least to me, because I'm looking at ABC as the only network that is pro-Trump. As kind of a pro Trump piece because the way they edit... In fact, I have an example before we play that if you don't mind sure? This is interesting this is it to me this is an ABC I call it ABC gotcha clip mm-hmm Because it's ABC looking as if they are neutral or even pro-Hillary when they're actually not. You decided to stay home and that's okay? I think Donald just criticized me for preparing for this debate, and yes i did

38:24 Tom Yamas with us live tonight from Trump Tower. We know that... Okay, now that's a little clip that looks like pro-Hillary but what they left out the end of that clip Yeah which is Alice who studied to be president That was the big punchline! That was the punchline and they purposely left the punchline which is what you would not leave out because that's the best part of that clip They left it out on purpose. Good catch, I think you're spot-on with that interesting yeah so then we have so which were still seeing this sort of slanted coverage on the part of ABC that's noticeable but so now we have the bigger clip which is ABC's update on Trump no Bill's gaffe

39:11 Bill's got Trump. It's a Trump update, yeah okay. Turn next here to the race for the White House and perhaps you were one of the millions watching that fiery vice presidential debate overnight but already tonight an intense focus on the next presidential face-off just four days away now ABC's Tom Yamas tonight with Trump out on the campaign trail and Hillary Clinton off the trail and preparing Tonight Donald Trump taking credit for his running mate's debate performance Mike Pence did an incredible job And I'm getting a lot of credit because that's really my first so-called choice. That was my first hire, as we would say in Las Vegas." In the VP debate Governor Mike Pence prays for his style both candidates arguing over which campaign deals more insults

39:58 He's called women, slobs pigs dogs disgusting. He attacked an Indiana born federal judge and said he was unqualified to hear a federal lawsuit because his parents were Mexican. He went after John McCain of POW and said he wasn't a hero because he'd been captured. Americans are living in hell. He still wouldn't have a fraction of the insults that Hillary Clinton leveled when she said that half of our supporters were a basket of deplorables. Trump now testing a possible new line-of-attack for his own debate Sunday Bill Clinton! Yesterday? Oh, they're so angry at him

40:53 They scolded him yesterday. He was scolded. He's talking about these recent Clinton comments criticizing Obamacare So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world. So Bill Clinton torched President Obama's signature legislation? He said it's just a crazy system! And that's the way he said it. It's the craziest thing in the whole world! Today, Clinton clarifying saying he supports Obamacare but it has some problems Hillary Clinton flying to Washington today already deepened that focus prep Trump once mocked

41:48 Besides the fact that this was just extremely entertaining to watch Bill Clinton do this and see the crowd going, hmm? The response from the news media is what I favor most. And you gotta go to MSNBC if there's something...I mean it's painful but I really watch a lot of MSNBC I'm glad. It really does, it gives me joy often particularly the Morning Joes who responded to this gaffe and man they...the way they talk about Bill Clinton is like he's drooling

42:24 dude maniac who just, oh no. Like a drooling senior citizen who needs to be shepherded everywhere. Put down! Yeah he's been put down now you're talking. Okay so let me read these he just talked about the awful awful legacy of the last eight years He talked about Barack Obama's awful awful and by the way editors I'm talking to you If a Republican presidential candidate, if this had happened on the other side this would have been on the front page day after day. Most Americans haven't heard this you really dropped the ball on this The awful legacy of the last eight years is what Bill Clinton calls Barack Obama's legacy

43:10 Pretty remarkable for a Democrat saying that about another Democrat, let alone any president saying it about another president. You have to go back and remember the history of it in 2008 the Clintons feel like this young Senator Barack Obama came in and stole what was rightly theirs. Right. Hillary Clinton to be the nominee and eventually the President He also feels like he was the cool president during times of peace and prosperity who looked even better after eight years of George W. Bush, but then Obama came in and stole that thunder too. You said yesterday he needs Obama just hold it together for a couple more weeks man! Give me one month Hillary Clinton must be saying Bill, one month Also Obamacare is pretty close to what Hillary Clinton proposed in 2008 as a candidate

43:54 I think he's concerned 50 years from now they're gonna look back at the Obama presidency with tremendous impact as far as Obamacare and bin Laden. They're going to look back at a Clinton presidency with Monica Lewinsky, you know? It's actually... Well they are! stunning is that they're still letting him out there. They are, it's like Warren G Harding you don't talk about oh but you know his economic no you talk about the scandal and 50 years from now Barack Obama whether Republicans and independents like or not he's going to be seen as a transformative president. You're gonna have FDR You're gonna have Reagan and you can have Barack Obama. Don't shoot me I'm only the piano player it's going to happen bill and Bill Clinton knows that and it's driving crazy But why is he still in the campaign? At some point they gave Joe Biden like an iPod and earphones and put him on a plane and flew him around Give that man an iPod fly them around a little bit put a couple of cheerleaders on board, you're good to go what

44:54 What this does point out though, and I think this is the proper analysis. Bill Clinton certainly and I think Hillary Clinton they really only care about themselves he only cares about his legacy He wasn't really thinking about how bad it is for the people of America Yeah, he only wants to everyone know that you know hey we had a better health care plan. We were better I was the first black president i'm cool uh i play saxophone i don't wear mom jeans You know i got i got bitches That does make him kind of cool. Well, he's definitely cooler than Obama! Yeah but this became a big problem because it's very obvious what Bill is saying even though I don't think he's cognizant of what he's doing... He's just trying to say hey you know we're better so of course that has to be defended. You know yeah

45:51 He's not paying attention to what he is up to. I mean, he is just out there freewheeling. Give the man an iPod and some cheerleaders and a jet! Let him go! Barbara Boxer of course had to help spin it and she came on to explain exactly what Bill meant you see because John you've got it all wrong You got it all wrong. This is not at all slamming Obamacare or President Obama, not at all. So Bill Clinton has said today Senator that he does support Obamacare but did Bill Clinton just give Donald Trump a big gift heading into Sunday's debate? Truly, no. Because if you listen to what Bill Clinton said is he said it's the craziest thing that we have 20 million more people and yet the insurance companies are raising their rates that's what he was talking about not the whole notion well he was saying that there are people getting insurance and then there are hard-working folks that are being checked out of this system and they can't really afford it anymore because of their insurance companies not being a part

46:49 of those different hubs that they can get insurance. So now he's saying he supports Obamacare, but he was shooting from the hip and the lip when he made that remark and kind of made a mess." Well okay I'm sorry that i don't agree with you here's exactly what we're talking about. We have a program in Obamacare called Risk Carters. Now risk carters had you ever heard of this? So I had to go back and look this up because I did read this thing. And it doesn't really...the term Rish Carters, I couldn't really figure out what she meant until I snooped around and figured out that this is really the kind of quiet problematic issue that we talked about maybe two months ago. That within the Affordable Care Act, the government had a huge fund and that fund was specifically meant to compensate insurers if they

47:42 were over-insuring and they were losing money. And that wasn't really apparent the way it was laid out, in fact it's possible that never made it in but I know there is some fund and its seven or eight billion dollars and they just give that to insurance companies like thank you very much for your courage thanks for participating in this system. You're losing money don't worry we are going to pay for because it has got to work. That money never went into coops that went out of business Oh, why give it to the little guys? No no no. We gotta give it to the big insurance companies! Part of the Affordable Care Act was to squeeze them out... obviously.

48:30 Led by Marco Rubio and the Republicans, they essentially stopped that program. And that program was to make sure that the insurance companies that were over-insuring poor people... Okay? Okay! ...were able to get some subsidies and Marco Rubio and the Republicans passed a rider stopping that program Bill Clinton maybe As an artful, I'll give him that. I love him because he speaks from the heart He's saying it like it is Of course we have to keep on working to make Obamacare better of course We have to fix the problems you should see how many times we tweaked Social Security Medicare Head Start You name it The highway system Bridge repair programs We always tweak them The Republicans don't want to make Obamacare better

49:21 because they want to repeal it and throw 20 million people out of the program. That's what Donald Trump wants to do, so I'm not defensive about the fact we have to fix it." Okay! So they did wind up giving that money. That money was dispersed this past year. Whether she says the rider was gone or not, it was just a whole idea set up... We already knew that but it starts to come out more and more And Bill knew it because Bill wasn't in on the deal. Yeah, Bill's not in on the deal. He does stuff like this although somebody suggested he's trying to submarine Hillary's campaign Yeah I don't know about that no think so I think he's just easy wants an iPod cheerleaders in a jet That's a you know that will shut him up. Do you want me to say something crazy again? Give me an iPad. I want one of those iPhone 7s and some cheer leaders

50:26 I actually have trouble watching her show. She is just, she's over the top with her Hillary support. It's, it just... I mean not a little bit. It's annoying. There are jokes to be made from Hillary if you're a comedian but if you're just gonna not make those gags You're going to be one-sided One note Johnny It's not going to be very appealing Well yes and its obvious in this little interview she had I have two clips

51:08 that she is all in for Hillary and her show is intended really to discredit anyone else but Hillary as the president. But the insane claim of the day comes from Gayle King right at the top of this clip. You know, Johnston would seem to make such an effort to be non-partisan... Wow! What planet is she on? Yeah, Jon Stewart was so he really tried to be fair and balanced and in the middle and just bipartisan. I think compared to Samantha Peele you can make that comment get away with it yeah well it leads into of course what side is she on? You know Jon Stewart seemed to make such an effort to be non-partisan and you and your team seem to have embraced

51:56 Putting your feelings out there for everybody to see you make no apologies about that I'd make no apologies for it because you know, I feel like we have one shot to do the show that fully expresses who We are and how we feel as she says one shot to do the show But she's not really talking about this shows just one shot to get Hillary in. That's what I'm hearing her say It's really I don't know why she does this to do the show that fully expresses who we are and how we feel And you know, we always wanted the show when we spoke about it in abstract terms before the show started We knew that we wanted to make a show that really kicked the door in and really was A total distillation of how we felt. And so that's what we're doing. It's not really our fault if people are responding to it or You know, I feel like

52:41 It's the only show that we can possibly do and so we can't be apologetic for it. Oh great, so after the election you will be out of a job? Somebody should send her note to crank up the vocal fry! More vocal fry please! After the elections she'll be jobless if this...that's what...so clearly oh this is all about this shows it how we feel is what we want to portray And she has no interest in even besides making any jokes about Hillary Clinton, she doesn't really even care who she is as witness in this clip. Do you think we know the real Hillary? Pardon? Do we know the real Hilary? Ah that's a good question I don't know that...I.. I do not know what we do. I dont'know what we do. Do we need to? Do we really need to? Do we really need to feel like we can go out for drinks with people

53:33 Do we not just want them to do a very good job? But we want to know something about their character, something about their intelligence, something about their temperament. If you don't know about Hillary Clinton by now what can we ever know I mean it's been so long yeah it's been like a live colonoscopy on television hasn't it? Yeah its a live colonoscopy on television okay gotcha thank You Samantha Bee Oh well, yeah. Joe Biden who continues to be out very aggressively I still think he has in the back of his mind if Hillary keels over i'm it! I really do. In my 80s deluded Deluded enough? Did you hear his comment about Bernie Sanders? Uh no... I aspire for one of my grandchildren become wealthy so when they put me into home I'll get a window with a view You know what I mean right now as I pointed out

54:33 It was embarrassing. Bernie Sanders' net worth is more than mine, I mean... I have less money than a socialist! I don't know what the hell happened to me! He's nailing it. That's good. Bringing the punchline, I like that! He is broke more or less he has never taken advantage of his political position to score dough like Hillary and Bill or others who trade the stock market based on legislation which they can do legally in Congress. And their assistants can too if you work in their offices

55:10 And which I find to be, wow. How'd that get ever happened? But they make money Biden never does anything care you got a government pension he's got plenty you've got enough money to get by just doesn't have any money in his name any net worth. Yeah. He's hoping to cash flow. Yeah. You say he's hoping to be president. That's uh... that's all we really can tell him yeah he's putting all on red. Probably is. Well he should have run. I just had one more clip before we go into a break here about Hillary Clinton and the election. There was a very problematic court case coming up in November, right around the time of the election. And Catherine Herridge, the pixie girl from Fox News explains what's going on. Ture makes a compelling case that Obama administration authorized a covert weapons program to arm the Libyan rebels in 2011 that spun out of control. The Justice Department has now moved to dismiss charges against Ture in part

56:06 because a trial that would happen around the election in November would publicly expose evidence about the administration's strategy to arm the Libyan opposition. The jury told Fox, as part of that investigation, that he believes half of the weapons ended up in Libya and the other half went to Syrian groups who are not friendly to the United States." So this is the case of the arms dealer And I think we talked about him maybe a couple years ago. Yeah, we've talked about him a couple of times as character. Yes. So this was the guy who brought the arms in and I presume he sent it to CIA annex in Benghazi and you know, he was kind of getting burned

56:44 for what happened and they were trying to pin this on him saying, well you know these weapons that got in the hands of... we don't know how that happened. How is it possible? It must be your fault! And now they know that this court case was coming up at a very inopportune time like I think will just drop all charges. You're good to go thank you thank you for your service and that's the justice department yeah That's apparently Loretta Lynch and Comey were on some case during the Clinton era the Clinton Bill Clinton his presidency in one of these scandals Supporting Hillary side of the argument. I'm not to look into that okay, but It's a lot is very This is a den of thieves what can I say yeah? Den of thieves this is what I hope people start to notice doubtful

57:41 Because no, no. No. Yeah we can point out all we want on the show and it's not gonna And yeah another shows dudes you know make may come You know negative commentary but nobody you know The public has made their minds up about one thing or another and tends to be On Hillary side of the thing and they the media courses is pumping a lot of this Good work. Well, well with that I think i should uh...I don't know thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C with a c stands for Clinton's iPod and cheerleaders Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs into water uh all feet in the air and the dames nights out there In the morning everyone in the chat room noagendastream.com thanks of those who showed up early

58:28 Uh, it's good to have you here again just for uh scheduling reasons. I want to thank CZN137 again who brought us the artwork for episode 865 that was the Wall of Phlegm and that was a classic Hillary looking into a mirror and Kathy Bates from Misery staring back That was good. That was funny because it's one of those where you had a, we get lot of good art but... You look at the art and there is one that just makes you laugh out loud Let's just play that mashup again that led to this And its the mash up between Hillary Clinton in that video Where she kind of yelling everybody and clips from misery What do think I say when I go to feed store in town? Oh now Wally give me a bag of that effing pig feed! 10 pounds of that bitchly cow corn

59:17 Now having said all this, why aren't I 50 points ahead you might ask? This isn't what happened last week. Have you all got amnesia?! The choice for working families has never been clearer! I stood right up and started shouting... I need your help to get Donald Trump's record out to everybody They just cheated us!! This isn't- Nobody should be fooled! Cockadoodie cockadoodie A genius, genius. That is very funny. All right this program is a yeah this is the value for value model where we bring you the show twice a week and if you like it if you think it's valuable to you of some value calculate that in your head and support us I agree so we do have a few people to thank starting with

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1:01:17 Hmm. Well, holy crap I don't think this has ever had this ever happened what two thousand dollars? Yeah one go boom like that out I can't remember it was done by our Grand Duke David Foley. Oh Okay. Yeah, but there's a long time ago. No, no, it wasn't while ago. You know well Ty Tran Thank you does he have a name as well that he said He didn't suggest anything, but we'll just leave him as Sir Titran until he changes it. Okay? Well thank you very much Thank you for your courage this is very much appreciated and here is your deducing has requested Oh what happened there oh here it is You've been D do jobs jobs jobs and jobs Yeah

1:02:11 Adding to the big donors, big executive producers. Sir Ryan, the knight of the Tesla coil in Tampa Florida gave us or contributed $1,000. which is nice to get a back-to-back. As long time huge fan of the show, I was thinking about the latest newsletters pleading for help the stellar deconstruction you two are doing regardless and exhausting media onslaught lately before the elections it didn't stem right after that thousands of producers are essentially freeloading while y'all work so hard to keep us sane maybe people just don't add up the value? I urge other producers to consider the following

1:02:53 If you listen to NOAAgenda at least once a week, it gives you the ability to skip literally hours more of mainstream news. Which gives you time for other things John? Yes! Yeah like drinking, having sex and all kinds of fun stuff yeah what price to put on drinking and sex Depends on how much the booze costs. You're saving precious time by not listening to propaganda and having it deconstructed for you I know i'm able to get anywhere from three to six hours a week of excellent insight, I could get nowhere else Thanks to John and Adam Wow in fact now i've cut the cord on cable I was doing the math on how much I actually paid Verizon to feed me channels of garbage that I didn't want

1:03:44 $1,440 a year. It's $120 times 12. When I looked at it that way supporting the best podcast in the world is a steal. In fact if he took... He gave us 1,000 and he still got 440 left so he was actually making out on this deal which all... Yes it's a winner. Yeah! It's a win! It's a total positive- It's a win-win-win. Very big win I or as all other producers consider how much their time is worth then do a similar multiplication on their cable bill and donate just one-tenth of that. I think every producer could would much rather John and Adam continue to fight for our sanity versus

1:04:27 pay the cable company thousands of dollars, isn't it time they save you worth so much as one-tenth of what you pay the heartless cable company? You know this cord cutting is pretty cool. Tina has been a cord cutter since before I met her and she has an Amazon Fire Stick device So she needs to watch TV, she watches Hulu. But I hooked her up with one of those antennas you're always raving about. One of those digital 8 HD over the air antennas. Yeah over there OTA $12 for the antenna 12 bucks and her TV didn't have a tuner in it so i bought a tuner

1:05:11 For over the air. What TV doesn't have a tuner in it, but okay? Well... It doesn't have a digital tuner. It has a tuner but not a digital tuner Oh its an old tv then? Yeah. Did you just get her a new tv? Well this one came with her new apartment and its already hung on the wall so like... Oh I see That's nice No I just bought one of those digital converter boxes 29 bucks Its unbelievable! And the quality is, it's twice as good as what you get on cable HD. It's really- Yeah because there's no compression. Over the air which everybody has a new TV set they got a tuner in there and their usually pretty decent You buy one of these antennas I like to flat ones that stick to the wall Yes sticks to the wall that's the one I got 12 bucks. Yeah its cheap and they get good reception On my set here

1:06:04 80 channels, I think. Oh that's pretty outrageous there. A lot of Vietnamese news and stuff like that. A lot of home shopping. And a lot of shopping channels it is true but all the major networks are on there and the quality of the image is superior and the Dolby sound over-the air is way better than what you get on cable. No, it's definitely a good deal. Definitely worth looking into and then you can support the best podcast in universe with your savings and still come out ahead of the deal! Sir Ryan Knight of The Tesla Coil thank you for that fabulous idea and your support of The NO Agenda Show for you. A little bit of karma I think is in order? You've got karma Beautiful

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1:07:32 And now we go to Terrence Harris and he's in Niceville, Florida. Yes makes you smile when you're in nice feel 333 33 I'd like to call out what is this bald the baldy baldy baldie? Yeah, yeah Baldy from Austin Texas as a douchebag douche bag He and Doug Owen listen to the show at work all the time, but Baldy never donates. I want to hear the Bush just send your cash song." We don't have a song... It's not a song? Not that i know of No, I think he wants the jingle Okay, I'll give him the jingle with a little bit of uh karma make it- We just need cash! I know a lot of people wanna send blankets or water Just send your cash

1:08:26 You've got karma. I still can't get over it, which is why I'm up to almost $9000 donated. What? When Chris... It adds up! Damn! Take one of these...I think he's got a barony or something. When Chris Rock is rubbing records all over himself at the end of Poodie Tang that's me after No Agendas episode. No Agenda, done it again. Love and Light go podcasting to an extreme!

1:09:14 I got a really bad visual on that. I didn't need that sir penonymous I'll give him a karma for the visual though. Thank you very much courage and passion Okay, um let me see okay Now we're off to Terrence Harris and oh, he's a nice fellow. It's your P9 I'm sorry Greg pass Passmore a pass more a how about just pass more? I mean just pass more could be passed for mm-hmm. I would think it'd be pass some already You know pass the more guys 23456 in Holland Dale Beach Florida keep me up to good work. Keep up the good work gents FWI W which means or what its worth

1:09:59 for what it's worth. I could tolerate, even welcome even deeper explanation exploration of everything." Even deeper exploration of everything is bullcrap idea! Okay i don't know what that sentence was... No no no, you know? I think he says uh.. He says uh..."I could tolerate and even welcome and even deeper explanation of everything that is-" You know what? I don't know what the hell he's saying either And they say check your email for an additional note Did you get an email Not yet. I don't have an email from him either, so and he says with an MP3 He says with an mp3 Well let me go look again Passmore right? Yeah Okay No, I do not see him at all hmm That's odd Let me do a search hang on So i certainly don't have an mp3 we may have to make good on this Come back at that We can do it next show is fine yeah alright You have anything It's always possible I'm typing in

1:10:57 Pessimore. Ah, you're doing that in... Squirrel! ...mail. Presidential hair? Now this is from October 4th 2016 this is not- Nooo like Oh maybe That is October fourth yeah go ahead Yeah I'm thinking Forward it to me Hey if there's an mp3 forward the email to me right now Is there an attachment Yeah, yeah. There's something that was actually embedded but it's there. Okay for Adam. Hey nice. Oh nice. I gave your email away adamacurry.com That's terrible! That's okay johncdvorak at dvorak dot org Good evening Mr and Mrs Dvorak and Curry Thank you so much for your insight and entertainment on the bi-weekly podcast that helps me It helps my hours of committing and other menial activities bearable

1:11:47 Commuting makes my hours of commuting bearable and even enjoyable. I have attached an mp3 file to this message that you are free to use at your discretion as well as the lyrics which are fast moving although the two of you are really well versed in the art of deciphering verbiage so they may be unnecessary The song is written it's one of his songs he did a song See if we can play this at the end of the show. I think we got to listen to it before you play it, OK? Listen to it again next year and make sure to be right there whenever Greg signs off. Alright thank you little karma there thank you very much great appreciate it. You've got karma.

1:12:38 All right, now I gotta get back to the thing here. Okay here we go Richard Riley in Loomis California 23456 and he says this is a... He says... What is this? 852. Oh, so he had previously donated 852 plus the 23456 equals night there you go okay so he wants to be known as Sir Slot Car from John's recent talk about slot car tracks that's not recent and I know it's not recent because i just got the one year reminder for the renewal of slutcar.com remember we had that whole conversation like oh yeah you gotta slot cars let's make slut cars

1:13:20 It was a year ago. Yeah, and it wasn't that funny then no I agree right Norman McDonough in the way Mr.. Slot car he would be He is a baron oh wait now this next though. You don't hit that one line Okay, because it's both blue. I'm sorry all right there because they're two blues Oh the second one probably shouldn't because you're not being knighted This is sir Norman McDonagh and Woodstock Ontario who wrote in a note He sent in a check and by the way he sent this check in. Canadians can do this you can just mention this anyone who wants to mail a check uh and you don't want to go through a rigamarole, and it's in your native funds of say in Deutsche well there wouldn't be Deutsche Mark but Euros how about SDRs? Nobody there's nobody that writes checks for SDR not yet and never will be um

1:14:19 It could be euros, it could be Canadian dollars. It could be pesos. You can do one of two things. One you can do what McDonough did which is he went to the bank and says I enclosed a $200 bank money order in US funds an accounting that shows I'm well past barren. I should have claimed last year. You can go to the bank and have special money order or bank ordered done at different kinds of funds so that he did it in dollars which was convenient but If you just want to send us a check from your funds, we can...we sent it to what most banks have which is called collections. And it goes through the process of being turned into the right amount of money and billed correctly so it doesn't matter. It's easier to do it the way he did it I think for us provided everything is okay in the territories unclaimed. He'd like to be known as the Baron of Partridge Island New Brunswick Canada in exile.

1:15:11 Now he backs up his barony with a bunch of documentation. I enclose a vintage postcard showing Partridge Island as well as some maps showing its location, the maps are all documented with arrows. My barony is small and uninhabited." Okay, but it is special and I hope as yet unclaimed. Yeah well that you could have waited another year to think you nailed it yeah You nailed it It's a former military outpost immigrant hospital and still has a lighthouse and foghorn nice Thank you for ya. I like the foghorn. Thank you very courage Norman McDonough For a sound clip can have anything from L Sharpton plus jobs karma? Yes

1:15:53 Yeah, well there's only one real Al Sharpton that is just the best of the best. There is no real conflict! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And then it concludes our listing of executive producers and associate executive producers for the show. And these are real credits, as Adam will explain. Yes they are real credits just like Hollywood and you can put them anywhere. Credits are recognized and I encourage you to do that in putting it on your CV or your resume or even a LinkedIn profile seems to get people views for sure. And of course you can join any guilder. It's real.

1:16:36 Before we go I wanted to thank one of our producers who i met in was it lubbock wasn't lubbock where? I had the first meetup on the they're, stream of consciousness tour well i don't know. Wasn't that let me see if it could be lubbock could Be abilene it was so richard bieber waco Richard okay richard beaver is one of our producers Who came to that meet up he has this interesting concept called bites and blades and what does He's he, you know if you need some help with like actually. He does the other way around that I don't know which thing it works both ways so if you need your knives sharpened and be like hey I'll come and sharpen your knives and then they'll say hey do you need any help with your eye because he's a total dude named Ben? You need any IT help? And sometimes the other way around but yeah you can come over in there like a geek squad to help you out got any knives that need to sharpen? And he sent me a knife!

1:17:35 He sent me a beautiful knife actually, which he sharpened of course. No no it's one of these lock blades It's an Emerson... Emerson Kershaw? So it was one of those you know like when you're in West Side Story Yeah I really got to gutted deer Or West Side Story just do this Hold on let me see how we'd do it Clicked open. When you're a jet, you're a je- Elsie made some nice keychains and stuff so I wanted to thank him for that And I wanted to thank Alex Nori who came in this morning I don't know if you saw that email No Agenda Animated series? Very funny Fantastic

1:18:11 I'm not quite sure how he did it. He did some subsystem that we don't know about, but it's pretty much our audio from episode 865 and then this animated John and Adam and then we go to a clip... Why are you holding an instrument? First of all, it is the most unsexy instrument in the world which is the keyboard like a guitar Which to me is kind of like, I'm a douchebag. There's a name for that thing. Yeah, I'm a douche bag is what it is. I can't play guitar so I'm holding my keyboard like its a guitar. Mmm yeah how very flock of seagulls have you? No. But anyway put the link in the show notes at 866 dot no agenda notes dot com because this is very funny hope he does more of them! I like it It's better than us video thats for sure. Ugh video We'll be thanking everyone else Go ahead

1:19:07 Yeah, I was just saying it actually kind of shows you know kind of a the pacing that we have for doing this podcast is not the same as video and it's kind of shows in this thing. Our show is paced for audio. Oh interesting observation Well, we'll see what the feedback is. Why don't you give it a look? Again that's in the show notes Another thank-you segment coming up later on in the program and did I have anything else here No, I don't think so. I think we're good to go Just remember We do have another show coming up on Sunday. I will be in New York bringing you that program And we'll talk about my trip in a moment as well But please remember us at tevorac.org slash NA And no matter where your traveling, no matter what your doing You should always be out there propagating our formula Our formula is this

1:19:53 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens! Shut up slave! I'm not quite sure who sent this to me but someone sent me an actual bell you know? I have my digital one and someone sent me a real table bell which i don't use and i'm going to explain to you why i don't use it because this is what it sounds like. Can we at least hear it? I'm sorry yeah okay this is what it sounds like

1:20:30 You see the problem is that it, unless I'm holding it up to the microphone... If I have it on the desk, the noise gate cuts out because it's just not loud enough. So you get this That's no good. Oh, it cuts at the end? Yeah which is the worst part or the most important part because you want to ring it yeah You wanted to have that melodious ending right oh interesting yeah because you use your various I have to be gated because unlike you who lives in you know the quiet suburbs of northern Silicon Valley I live in downtown Austin where we're building and doing all kinds of stuff Jackhammering exactly

1:21:11 Okay, well that's a good reason not to use the real bill. But you should keep it there! Oh no I have... So when you're just having a dinner party just put it on the table and when somebody is talking about their Obama or how great of guy he is... Hold on a second. Hold up. I should just take it with me? I'm traveling with it from now on its part in my rig. Just bring along your dough. By the way if you bang like you did over and over again it actually sounds okay Yeah that sounds good And you probably can't do that digitally No, I can't. I could but not the way it's set up. Right And we definitely had a big one... The Distraction of the Week on NO Agenda Cover! And it's good for us to remind ourselves as a community here at the NO Agenda Show that people who are not aware and whose sanity is not being saved

1:22:08 by clear thinking, they get trapped. And what did everyone get trapped in? Kim Kardashian got robbed! And that was the top news item everywhere while at the same time we had oh I don't know Russia and the US are kind of gearing up for war The Pentagon turns out that the Pentagon spent At least of what we know half a billion dollars making propaganda What else happened? Tons of different little things that happen. No one is paying attention to it at all because of Kim Kardashian and you gotta ask how that got set up. Yeah, the whole thing seems like I mean, I wouldn't even brought it up but now that you have I thought the whole thing seems

1:22:58 It seems sketchy. Yeah, where were your bodyguards are usually always around? What was she doing traveling with 10 million dollars worth of jewelry? That's not me serious. Not the way people do that at all smart money does not travel with real jewelry They travel with costume you know whether it would a copy costume copy of course that's how I traveled John That's how I tried I don't have the real one. I got the costume jewelry though. Yeah, skip to middleman. Hey man look at this. Just used a fake hey man look at this Rolex It's digital. A couple of fake Rolexes that are absolutely perfect Oh i have several fake Rolexes. I love them! I think they're funny very funnyy anyway so

1:23:44 I was just going to say that seemed like, wow. That was you know... Whether it was intended or not but it was a distraction of epic proportion so we missed a lot of stuff. We missed hearing about a lot of people. Not we didn't, people just missed it. Just didn't hear the things that were really going on and then yeah elections whatever Well, the other big distraction is the Trump tax return. The one that was stolen from 19...from 21 years ago! Yeah two things on that One I looked it up It is illegal to publish someone's tax return Yes Without permission That is illegal And I don't know how you get away with this as news but it is not legal From what I've heard People are like well Marlon Maples sent it and I'm like no Donald Trump sent it

1:24:34 I think he sent it himself. It makes total sense, he's got everyone on... That could be that's a good catch yeah i'd say that's a possibility well you think about it think about uh the clintons they had a seven 700 thousand what not seven hundred they had like a so very huge number i know what doesn't it wouldn't be 700 million would it? Well but Trump says 900 million But the tax loss carry forward, you know it's very easy to go and get other examples. Although weak like well The New York Times did it that's kind of weak I would say Elon Musk how about that everybody? This guys business is built on net loss carry forward And by the way the money he's using is your money in the first place

1:25:21 So if you want to see an a-hole. It's a little different than Trump, but the analysis in fact one of the two guys that was on this story along with there was a New York Times guy and this guy from The Beast and they were on the Democracy Now thing and they come up with I just took a very short clip This is the old brother clip where intelligently sit there, seemingly intelligently and they make some commentary about the taxes and the tax laws. And I just want to point out or deconstruct what not deconstruct but explain what this guy's trying to say and why he is so far off by this telling people about

1:26:04 First of all, those losses represented real damage suffered by other people. Secondly the state of New Jersey Casino Control Commission after two commissioners complained of official favoritism to Donald Trump by the New York State Attorney General's office took his side against his bankers and his bankers then had to give him huge discounts on his loans well if you borrow money from a bank and pay back less than you owe that's income and you have to pay taxes on it Donald escaped that I'm sure and that's what my column in the Daily Beast explains. the $900 million represents real damages to people. What people? Well, I think you're talking about banks. Let's look at the logic of this. I lose... let's say I lost 10...I bought something and I paid too much or did something or got robbed whatever and i have a tax loss of let's say 100 dollars under 100 or 900 million it doesn't make any difference how does that affect how is this

1:27:09 Somebody else's loss. It's my loss, not theirs. I think what they're trying with it where the I've heard this story. I'll just tell you what they're trying to say is that loss was for the investors took the loss he walked away with the money and so that's who when these referring to real people it was investors but it sounds like that was the deal was on the up and up and that was they had two go investors being banks that they had to pony up This is nonsense. It's illogical what he said, totally illogical then he makes the other commentary that if you... He says if you take out a loan and have to pay back less Play that whole clip again That second part I think is even more egregiously idiotic Not telling people about it

1:27:55 First of all, those losses represented real damage suffered by other people. Secondly the state of New Jersey Casino Control Commission after two commissioners complained of official favoritism to Donald Trump by the New York State Attorney General's office took his side against his bankers and his bankers then had to give him huge discounts on his loans well if you borrow money from a bank and pay back less than you owe that's income and you have to pay taxes on it Donald escaped that, I'm sure. And that's what my column in the Daily Beast explains." Wait a minute... how is that income? That's just another thing! That makes zero sense. That's not income. Wow. I've taken out a loan for $10,000. They're usually discounting it. They mean they're usually discounting the interest and not discounting the principal amount of money right now. It's not as though they say, here's... What would that mean? That they gave me 12 thousand instead

1:28:54 and I only had to pay back 10? Is that what he's trying to say this is all, this entire little thing that this guy did. And the whole episode because Amy sitting there with her mouth open she's not asking any questions it makes zero sense! It's nonsense! I don't care about... and i don't see anybody else... Hold on a question, question, question, question. Is debt forgiveness income? I don't know. Hmmmm....I think it may be Yeah, but that wasn't there. He wasn't talking about debt forgiveness he was talking about the discount and discounts usually refers to the interest rate He has to pay or how I have to pay it back right so that's not it's not like you got loaned yeah Okay, he got loan $10,000 and he paid back eight is That what they're saying that they took something on the dollars? I mean that could be a result of a bankruptcy sometimes that happens a bankers Rupsey court can do that But then well guess you know it's great. This is just bullshit You know what is we apparently have

1:29:52 400 accountants in the chat room because they all say it's income and the bank is supposed to send you a 1099 for the amount. I think it's, well, I think it's a little simple. Get a 1099 from the bank then its income? Yeah, I agree with that. But the misinformation and just pure ignorance of tax code... The guy goes on to say that That's income and then he makes the assertion that Trump didn't pay taxes on that income if there was any. I think it still is a discount on the rate

1:30:31 He says, well I don't know if he did or didn't. He makes an assertion and then kind of admits that he doesn't really know whether... This is terrible reporting! And you know what? I don't understand how people can even pay attention to anything on the media anymore including Democracy Now! But just a point out one thing and make it very simple If in a year you buy two stocks and both are $20,000 worth of stocks and one at the end of the year is you know, goes down it's now at 7000 and the other one goes up to 13 000. You only pay the tax on the gain of the first one but you can deduct the loss of the other one otherwise you'd be paying your 20% or whatever capital gains are over the 20000

1:31:21 which is insane. So you have to, that's part of the way the actual system works is to have that capability. This assuming you're selling those stocks right then? No, of course I'm talking about yes sell it within the same year absolutely absolutely and also what if I hear one more time... The tax laws are supposed to encourage like they said even with Trump. Encourage investment and spending of course yeah well Oh yeah, like no one deducted their loss with their home in 2008. It doesn't matter you're right The annoying part is we got everyone knows about the tax code except on television And in addition to that if I hear Hillary Clinton or anyone else say boy That's just crazy How can you not make money in the casino business? Have you looked at Las Vegas Three of the majors are in bankruptcy They're in bankruptcy

1:32:21 So I don't know what they're talking about, but eventually someone's going to have to say that's just not true. It's not you have to really be well managed in the casino business. You can make a lot of money and they do it sure but you have to know what you're doing to an extreme. Yeah there's very few guys who know how to do that But of course all this boils down to Donald Trump walked away with millions of dollars, screwed all the little guys. All the little guys got screwed and well maybe it's... Well you know let's go to Carol CNN! I think i spent over a million dollars in litigation with him The bottom line was that I would have been much happier Jess if he

1:33:01 He would have left me alone and simply left me to do my business. To him it was, uh... It was sport And to me it was my life During the last debate Trump claimed these people did not do a good job But now you have to wonder whether Trump had the money to pay them at all Right? Riiiight?! Maybe he didn't have the money to pay his contractors! Riiiiiightt?? Right That's your news everybody That's your news Just supposition Jeez Fantastic I'm hoping...I'm hoping Yeah, go ahead. Well the other day I look back on the days that the journalism schools began to crop up because it was such a reporting was shoddy and they didn't do anything right

1:33:45 And they didn't, who and when were why it was always left out. It was a lot of very slanted news coverage and they wanted to make it objective as you know everything has to be more balanced yeah so these guys started you know these Columbia School of Journalism the Missouri school there's a bunch them that Berkeley's got one but did fight more for making spies and anything else, but that's just a thesis. So they have... I think they failed! I think all these journalism schools failed because all these people that are on many of these shows have journalism degrees. They don't have any degree in history or sociology now they got a J school degree. Right at the J School you learn how to be part of the system. I don't think you'll learned to be independent. You learned how to be a cog in the wheel. Exactly exactly

1:34:39 Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs. Well thank God there is the best podcast in the universe so at least we can give you some clues as to what it really is all about I'm kind of hoping that Sunday we can do one of our special bits John One of our reports We got the big hurricane coming up It's on its way On his way to Florida Oh this hurricane is a whopper and also gonna... I'm sorry Go ahead It's going to slam Horowitz Yeah! I heard you guys talking about that I sent him a note He's sitting out he said he's gonna stay put Yeah, it should. Hold things down. Yeah now here's the board up to place listen to your local forecast if you live in Florida take care of neighbors check on the elderly and your family this is not a good scenario of Stewart category for four several days here along the coast it's not there's not and it's not hype it's real it's real it's real it's real it's not high but real

1:35:37 Alright, now what is... I think that's by the way give you a borderline clip of the day and i'll tell you why. And this again an example of really slip shot reporting What he's implying is that all these other ones are bullshit! This isn't like that other one! This was not hype like the other ones! This was not hype like global warming Oh man, ya had to take me there didn'tcha? Okay, here we go. Agenda 2030. Here we go global warming let's start first with the Paris Agreement. The Paris agreement which is the big IPCC climate change new world order document and it really is about bringing a set of rules and financial flows into the world as a whole

1:36:28 And so the EU quickly ratified it. The UN, I don't know why they're a country, but they ratified it President Obama... The Paris Agreement alone will not solve the climate crisis Even if we meet every target embodied in the agreement We'll only get to part of where we need to go But make no mistake this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst This is back to job saved or created. This is what is it delay or avoid, delay or avoid? Hold on. Raymond will help delay or avoid delay or avoid. Oh man hedging your bets there Prez delay or avoid we don't really know you've just signed the damn document. It will delay or avoid

1:37:20 But make no mistake, this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change. It will help other nations ratchet down their dangerous carbon emissions over time and set bolder targets as technology advances all under a strong system of transparency that allows each nation to evaluate the progress of all other nations And by sending a signal that this is going to be our future, a clean energy future. It opens up the floodgates for businesses and scientists and engineers to unleash high tech low carbon investment." By the way he's not lying it will open up the flood gates yeah of government money A big freaking bonanza with the carbon tax Canada is about to do it Yeah it'll open up the floodgates of our money into more

1:38:11 stuff energy future it opens up the floodgates one gates of money this is and scientists and engineers to unleash high-tech low carbon investment and innovation at a scale that we've never seen before gives us the best possible shot to save the one planet. We've got one shot in this planet, but one shot we got John's The One Shot at The One Shot, but he should have said he should have said to save what was it to delay or avoid the planet? Being destroyed. Let's avoid the planet. Avoid the planet! This was part of the South by South lawn

1:38:47 which was a, and I wonder if they got permission from South by Southwest. They use their font? They use their you know, the big S X SW. They need to be sued by South by Southwest. That's very possible they were all in and they said go ahead and do it so as south by south lawn And this was part of that actually promotion for South by Southwest Oh it could be that they probably saw it that way. In my view I think I believe all of this is coming now that Teresa May has announced by March 2017, we'll have you know will be initiating article. We'll trigger Article 50 so the Brexit can take place I think this is being done hastily to mess with the UK

1:39:31 Do you think? Yeah, yeah sure. Because they'll all have their agreement but the UK will not be in it because they're not going to sign it as an EU signatory and they also did not sign off on it they were not even asked to be there for the sign-off or the ratification so yeah there's something there's something going on with this Something is fishy. Something very fishy um but funnier was the president and that bastion of saving the bastion of delaying or saving the universe, Leonardo DiCaprio. And I actually took this clip a little bit longer so you can hear because they're walking onto the stage and you can hear DiCaprio like yeah i'll introduce you uh Barack. I don't think he says Barack but yeah I'll take care I introduce you and here's what he said. All righty! Hey hey let me see that I'll introduce you. You in the middle? Introduce me

1:40:34 Hello, everybody. I want to thank you all for coming here this evening. I want to in particular thank our president for your extraordinary environmental leadership. Most recently in protecting our oceans, Catherine thank you for the great work you do on climate change and helping improve preparedness of communities to deal with the impacts of climate change. And thank all of you for showing up here this evening tonight. Yeah like if I get an invitation to White House i'm going to blow them off. Eh, nah fuck it I don't want to be there. Tonight I am... Did he say this? Eveningke?

1:41:12 Did he say evening? Climate change. And thank all of you for showing up here this evening, this evening now I think it's evening not even tonight. I am pleased to present the US premiere of my new documentary before the flood was a three year endeavor on the part of myself and my director Fisher Stevens. Hey Fisher Stevens. Wasn't he the guy from Short Circuit? Johnny Five is Alive, kind of like the Indian guy? Fisher Stevens? Yeah! Well I don't know let's consult the book of knowledge. I think we should do that for a moment just to make sure... That's an interesting combo. I think that's the guy, Fisher Stevens. Hmm yeah yeah yeah that's the guy.

1:42:08 Uh, from let's see known for yeah. Short circuit short circuit and short circuit to Johnny five is alive. Uh, actually he's probably a good director. I don't know also from Chicago from Chicago might want to point that out everything's from Chicago. Yeah. Okay so with Fisher Stevens and this is his new movie which has worked on for years three years of myself and my director Fisher Stevens Together, we traveled from China to India to Greenland to the Arctic. Indonesia to Micronesia to Miami to learn more about the effects of climate change on our planet and highlight the message from a scientific community and leaders worldwide on the urgency of the issue

1:42:51 This film was developed to show the devastating impacts that climate change is having on our planet and more importantly what can be done. Our intention for the film was to be released before this upcoming election because after experiencing first-hand, the devastating impacts of climate change... Wait a minute! Is he referring to when he was in Alaska and you got one of those weird Chinook winds? Remember that? He was like, oh I saw climate change. Yeah it was a big story. Oh I witnessed climate change myself and it was one of these weird winds that is very warm and you know there's the one spot it just swirls around And he was ridiculed for that but he seems to be doubling down like I witnessed it myself. ...impacts of climate change worldwide we like many of you here today realize that urgent action must be taken

1:43:42 This moment is more important than ever. We must empower leaders who not only believe in climate change but are willing to do something about it The scientific consensus is in and the argument is now over If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts or in science It's a beautiful rant you want you want to interrupt DiCaprio Isn't this based on a computer model that is debatable? Science is in, John. Shut up! The debate is over the science is in Don't you believe it's not a computer model don't you believe an empirical facts Yeah It's all based on a computer model which have been wrong spectacularly wrong so far Always well, it's been 15 years But I think finally we're gonna get our one hurricane of the craziest Hurricane season ever which just didn't happen

1:44:41 Yeah, now we got the one. In fact someone was discussing this about apparently in the 1940s there was like that's when Florida which is blasted like 10 or 20 times with hurricane after hurricane and depressed all the real estate values. I'll go back to his rants as he wraps it all up but just remember it's real, the science is in, the debate over the debate is over Otherwise you don't believe in empirical fact. And the argument is now over if you do not believe in climate change, You do not believe in facts or in science or empirical truths and therefore... We're never gonna get through this clip. Is it just based on a computer model? Okay. Somebody get John his B12s Come on man come on Yes It's based on a computer model he's full of crap

1:45:38 And okay, but the point is yeah. The point is just be quiet shut up you do not believe in facts or in science or empirical truth and Therefore and my humble opinion should not be allowed to hold public office I guess that's a he doesn't like Donald Trump. I'm guessing the same thing Unbelievable douche knuckle well, I have a couple of things I can go I can do the pre donation story Which is fascinating early little early for that okay? Well, no, I don't know the timing is off today So let's go with an anniversary It's a big anniversary mm-hmm lot if you don't realize it was a big anniversary not being celebrated my 17th monthiversary or was yesterday

1:46:41 Oh, well that's interesting because it's also the anniversary of the US bombing of that hospital. I don't think i want to put those two together actually Well, here we go. Doctors Without Borders marked the first anniversary Monday of the U.S. military's bombing of its hospital in Kunduz Afghanistan October 3rd 2015 The attack killed 42 people including patients and staff Doctors without borders has described patients burning in their beds medical staff who were declared capitated and lost limbs, and staff members shot from the air while they fled the burning building. The Pentagon's called the attack a mistake. Sixteen U.S. officers have received administrative discipline over the attack but none have faced criminal charges this is Doctors Without Borders Switzerland president Thomas Nieroli

1:47:31 Four out of five members of the Security Council, permanent members of the Security Council are allied to forces who commit these crimes. And on the other hand, on the UN Security Council there's one resolution after the other is passed that health care structures should not be attacked. That they are protected and it should be respected but in the end nothing changes. Yeah yeah I think yeah nothing changes absolutely right And I should say regarding Afghanistan, the European Union is now negotiating after Turkey did their deal. You recall Turkey cut a deal with the EU and said all right we're gonna you can send these migrants back but you have to pay us and otherwise you can't send them back. So far they've been very successful of the million over a million refugees they sent about 5 000 back so that's pretty good but Afghanistan is like hey this is a good idea

1:48:35 So the European Union is now putting together a deal with Afghanistan. They will pay, the EU will pay Afghanistan 1.3 billion euros every year in order for Afghanistan to accept migrants who are being sent back and these guys stupid? It's unbelievable! And that's really stupid. That's just crazy. It is crazy. This is public money. Yeah, but most people don't even see that. They grab all the money they can and then just throw it around like drunken sailors. Exactly! My favorite story I got from this show was apparently there's some screwball irony going on in the UK which is disgust. Cameron apparently has now

1:49:29 Cameron, who didn't want to get used against the Brexit is against this. He's now up according to some of the newspapers and RT in particular is being blamed as a source of the rationale he's being blamed blame that some weird way for all the violence against immigrants that's going supposedly going on in the UK which It's just funny and listen to this report. Ever since Britain voted to leave the European Union back in June, there has been a sharp rise in the number of racist and xenophobic incidents taking place across the country. Many in Britain and outside the country are beginning to equate the term Brexit with hate crimes. Huge rise in cases of racist abuse. Increase

1:50:18 racist attacks on Eastern Europeans. According to a new report by the European Council's human rights watchdog, one big problem is the way politicians have been talking about immigration in fact the report on hate crimes specifically mentions the former Prime Minister David Cameron for referring to migrants trying to get to Britain as swarms you've got a swarm of people coming across the Mediterranean seeking a better life wanting to come to Britain I want an I want to know who Londoners think is to blame for the recent rise in hate crimes in Britain. Least responsible out of the next people that I'm about to list? Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson David Cameron and The Media. David Cameron's the least responsible isn't he? Yeah, I'd say... Haynes would say it but David Cameron! David Cameron probably his intentions were quite open and clear

1:51:12 I don't believe it went the way that he wanted it to go. Probably out of those choices, it has to be David Cameron. Least culpable? The most culpable I would say is Cameron. Really?! or being hated so much that he says don't do something, they're all going to do it. You have won the pop quiz! This was David Cameron speaking about the rise in hate crimes following the Brexit vote in June We will not stand for hate crime or these kinds of attacks They must be stamped out Little did he know that just three months later, he himself would be considered partly responsible for stoking increased xenophobia in his country. Now this is like there's obviously this is a campaign that we don't have the source of that created this hate toward Cameron out of the blue

1:52:05 And they based it, I think that one of the things was just what's going on in this country which is to take somebody's old-fashioned comment or something they said. In the case of Cameron it would be use of the word swarm And swarm always kind of sounds like insects. So by him using a swarm of immigrants are coming trying to get out of the Calais. Okay, so he was comparing them to bugs? Yes, hate speech. So he actually... yes that's exactly it and that is all there is to it! Swarm is hate speech so Cameron's responsible for all the hate that's going on Unbelievable Well along those lines Of course the UK is still in the EU

1:53:00 The European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance, the ECRI which is part of the European Council found that there was an increase in hate speech and racist violence in the UK specifically between 2009 and March 2016. That completely fits in with what you just shared with us however the ECRI blames the press This is an 83-page report marked up in the show notes if you're interested in looking at it. I won't go into too much depth, but in relationship to this story... The ECRI chair Christian Alunt said It's no coincidence that racist violence is on the rise in the UK at the same time as we see worrying examples of intolerance and hate speech in the newspapers online and even among politicians

1:53:50 So there's like 23 recommendations being made to the UK government and one of them specifically about the press that the British government needs to give quote, give more rigorous training to reporters so they don't always dwell on the fact that terrorism was committed by a Muslim. I mean this is come on! Shut up, Rave! Free speech anyone? Freedom of the press anyone?! Geez, yeah. Yeah well is actually there was a Also in the UK as a little detour every British swear word has now been officially ranked in order of offensiveness

1:54:34 And this is done by the UK telecommunications regulators. Like we have the seven dirty words in America that you can't say, so Ofcom is I guess putting together words they feel should not be used and of course on the heels of this will be when they can be used or what time or in what form of media they can be used or not And it's very interesting when you look at what we here in the United States of Gitmo Nation consider to be really bad and what they consider to be bad or actually its mild, medium strong and strongest. Would you like to hear a few of these categorizations? Of course! Mild words. Okay, mild words. Arse bloody bugger cow crap yeah cow

1:55:24 Yeah. Cow? Oh, that's often- Must have some slang meaning to it. It's misogynistic. Oh she's a cow! She's a cow exactly. Crap Damn Ginger Who is the redhead Git which is a cripple This is great God I don't understand why god is now a mild swear word but okay oh goddamn Jesus Christ minger Minger I should say it's minger and What does minger mean? I don't know what minger means Is it minger or mint? I think its minger I don't know. Let me see, well consult the book of knowledge and unattractive or unpleasant person or thing minger minger

1:56:03 So how is that on the list and an unattractive person? It's misogynistic because it was used against women. Now I get it now, medium bad words here we go so I think these will be the ones you probably can't use or only after a certain time arsehole balls bint where they have arson the other lists yeah but our whole is more outrageous you see Okay, balls bint bitch bollocks bullshit. It's a bit bint I have no idea what Bint is don't say it in the UK though bent Bint is British slang for a woman or a girl there you go. It's it's all There's actually an Arabic word daughter chick yeah But it's an Arabic word for daughter interestingly bins never heard of that oh

1:56:52 Uh, bitch, bollocks bullshit feck munter pissed or pissed off shit son of a bitch or tits. Now we get to the really bad ones now these so you will not be able to say these there's only three lists There's 1 4th. There's the strongest which I think can never be and your favorite word is on that strongest list But here's strong but these words will I presume not be allowed to be used bastard Beaver. Bastard? Yeah, bastard. Well it's the UK is a different culture man their words are interpreted differently I mean can you imagine bloody being a swear word at all now but that says cultures beaver beef curtains Wow they really went all out on this survey bellend B-E-L-L-E-N-D how can what is it Belland

1:57:44 I have no idea. He's Brits, man What's going on with Belland? By the way this show is- let me see... The end part of a penis designed so that your hand doesn't slide off The bell end, I got it. Oh the bell end. Oh man. Oh brother... Blood clot C-L-A-T again never heard of this word have no idea what it is but refers to a woman's menstrual period there you go and the device used to soak up the blood oh perfect This is just a list of shitty things You can't say too or about women plunge cock dick dickhead fanny

1:58:22 Flaps, gash, knob, minge, prick, punani, pussy, snatch and twat. Forboden words! Forboten! And then the final three... I find fanny to be unusual Well fanny is vagina in the UK Yeah but this is a very common word It's a name actually of some people Well remember this for the media These are the words that are going to be categorized and not able to be used So this is a list, you know. It's a list of words you can't use I get it! I get that part Yeah Well thats why its nuts Its exactly for the reason you pulled up And no other show would talk about this by the way out there Nope and i have the final three so if you have kids in the room These are not good in America either and John one of your favorites on here So the strongest 3 words that can ever be used Cunt Fuck and Motherfucker Wait wait The top of the list has only three words on it? yeah Ready? Yeah CUNT

1:59:25 Which I think you can say is see you next Tuesday. That's okay fuck and motherfucker your favorite word So okay, so on this list mm-hmm is not the word for example Cocksucker no show in England well you can't use cock you can't use cock Mm-Hmm yeah, they thought of everything they thought I like baby people Let me put my bellend in your beef curtains, baby. Here I come. If you can't say fuck why do they have a motherfucker as A redundant term and they don't have cocksucker is a redundant term that's what i'd like to know hey this Is a government outfit that's putting this list together? You know these guys are making work for themselves

2:00:07 And by the way, Russell Brand would be completely not allowed on the air anywhere. And since they specify specifically that this is online as well I think we're going to see this as the setup...as the list uh..that will outlaw speech essentially! Russell Brand did this like 14 minute podcast that he did. I clipped the first minute and 15 seconds because i thought it was very funny Uh and Russell Brand you know Is he, I guess he's still relevant in the UK? No. Not at all? No not really

2:00:42 Well, the media was flipping out over this minute. I mean in England we have a queen for fuck's sake! A QUEEN We have to call her things like Your Majesty! YOUR MAJESTY Like she is all majestic like an eagle or a mountain She is just a person, a little old lady in a shiny hat that WE paid for Or your highness What the fuck is that? What she is high up above us at the top of a class pyramid on a shelf of money with our own face on it We should be calling her Mrs Windsor In fact, that's not even a real name. They changed it in the war to distract us from the inconvenient fact that they were as German as the enemy that teenage boys were being encouraged – conscripted actually! – to die fighting

2:01:23 Her actual name is Mrs Saxe-Koburg-Gotha. Mrs Saxe-Koburg-Gotha? No wonder they fucking changed it, it's the most German thing I've ever heard! She might as well have been called Mrs Bratwurst Kraut Nazi. Titles have gotta go...I'm not calling her your highness or your majesty just so we can pretend there isn't and hasn't always been an international cabal of rich landowners flitting merrily across the globe getting us all to kill each other a couple times per decade From now on she's Frau Saxe-Kober-Goffer. Come on, Frau Saxe-Kober-Goffer! It's time for you to have breakfast with her, Saxe-Kober-Goffer and you can make it yourselves And by the way we're nicking this fucking great car so you've been dossing in giving it 200 poor families Actually You can stay if you want they'll need a cleaner y'all have to watch your lip though her saxe-kober-goffer some of them ain't white saxe-kober-gopher

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2:12:27 We need all your address and everything, otherwise we can't send it out to you. So please do that! And we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Well I think the funniest news story... This week was the anti-Samsung story. This is the ABC version of the latest that happened, this is anti Samsung ABC1 We move on to other news tonight and the other major headline at this hour The owner of a Samsung smartphone saying it started burning while on a passenger plane smoke in the cabin It happened on this southwest plane, the captain calling in emergency equipment

2:13:05 Samsung, as we've been reporting has recalled a million of its Note 7 smartphones and offered a replacement it said was safer. But the owner of this phone says it was one of those replacements. Here's ABC's David Curley. Tonight what happened in this jet at the gate in Louisville? Could mean even bigger trouble for Samsung. According to a passenger, it was his smoking-burning replacement Note 7 phone. I noticed smoke just pouring out of my pocket pulled the phone out of my pocket threw it on the ground where continued to smoke and kind of burn and smolder into the carpet Nice

2:13:45 Is this a native ad from Apple or what is this I wonder? This is crazy. These guys are just, you know track down these battery makers! Yeah. This is batteries from China You know they're cutting corners for best price Well this the same problems they had with those hoverboards It's really bad... Where's Elon Musk with his great batteries How come he doesn't jump in and say hey this all dangerous take my battery Yeah use my battery well he hasn't got the mega factory or whatever it's called, of working it that makes all the batteries. You want to finish this up as a kind of further analysis? This story really was should have been an item but they've turned into a story 60% of the nearly 1 million original Note 7 sold in the US replaced nearly 100 the originals overheated with 26 people being burned

2:14:34 In the past week, there have been reports that some of the replacements the South Korean company rushed to market were getting hot. But this would be the first case of a replacement phone smoking and burning so serious The Consumer Product Safety Commission already has investigators on the ground in Louisville We are going to be working around the clock to make sure that we can get to the bottom of this and make sure that consumers know what they can count on or not with regard to this remedy. Samsung says it is also sending representatives to Louisville, and will be working with the government to identify the phone and the cause. Oh man! So are you sure these are Chinese batteries? Because they're Korean right? Samsung?

2:15:14 Are they making their own batteries or buying? No, Samsung's sure and maybe they have their own battery factory. That makes it worse. Generally speaking most of the batteries are made in China I wonder Yeah It needs some looking into But you know... I haven't seen any reports on where the batteries are manufactured who the battery maker is for that matter but this is just one of uh yeah this is the type of story that mainstream loves You know blue jeans are going to give you cancer Talk about that for an hour Coffee will kill you We'll talk about that for an hour They love this. It's a human interest story, John. Human interests is the guy's pocket being on fire. That's did they have video of it though? That's the question. No that's the problem with somebody else should have pulled out their Samsung phone and made a video exactly I mean if here's a tip no agenda tip if you want to make some money If you be sure you have a Samsung phone fuck even if you have one that didn't just set it on fire but record video while it's on fire that would be cool

2:16:12 You would be able to sell that footage for sure. For sure! Oh, there was an altercation this morning John in the EU in Parliament My goodness something really bad happened On a walkway above the European Parliament building A dramatic scene as red-coated medical staff tend to the man who was favourite to become UKIP's next leader Stephen Wolfe is prone, his jacket is open. His colleagues look on anxiously as the medics care for him a screen is being erected next to him it's understood he collapsed after feeling ill and walking out of a vote and that earlier in the day he'd been involved in a dispute with fellow party members A statement from Nigel Farage says I deeply regret

2:16:58 that following an altercation that took place at a meeting of UKIP MEPs this morning, Stephen Wolfe subsequently collapsed and was taken to hospital. His condition is serious. Many were expecting Stephen Wolfe to take over the UKIP leadership. Now his fellow MEPs are sending him their best wishes and prayers. Love and light so what I understand he was he was someone hit him in the face. That's what I understood Someone punched him out yeah, yeah But that's not exactly the way it reads No well first of all woman who has given that you kip leadership role she quits Yeah She quit like after two or three weeks she said I can't take it yeah So she quits no with no explanation so that can't even say why?

2:17:44 And then Nigel Farage, according to like the last couple of days has taken back the UKIP leadership against his will. This other guy was being groomed I think it's get Farage back into retirement but maybe they want Farage in that job? Maybe they want him back in the European Parliament so he can make a fuss! Yeah possibly...I don't think he wants to do it I think he's kind of done. He doesn't want to do it, but he's you know right? He's stuck with a created this thing and now he's stuck just stuck which is you know for far as the show is concerned is fantastic for us. It's great yes of course we get good clips from well you know who's also fantastic. He just it's the gift that keeps on giving Duarte again president Philippines This Is Good Yeah short but sweet yeah You were going to say something

2:18:36 I was just gonna say this guy, you're right. This guy's a gifted...this is going to go on for awhile. I wish he would improve his English a little bit Just a tad but this 10 second clip does say it all Instead of helping us, the state department came So? You can go to hell Mr. Obama, you can go to hell! I love this guy And then he said that the UK and United Kingdom could be in purgatory because there's no more room in hell Yeah but I clipped that off because I couldn't understand that at all It was unintelligible Yes it was unintelligable You could have a clip of it Bad news

2:19:23 Bad news for KLM and Air France. And I guess by connection, Delta as they are all part of the One World Alliance or the Sky Team? Maybe there's a sky team. I think there's sky teams. I think one world alliance is united. That's United. Yeah. Sky team, sky team. Well, this bad news coming out of France and of course air France owns KLM now. They pretty much bought them the Dutch pride and Delta, they just have co-chairing agreements. It's a mess but now this." Air France has condemned media reports that it suffered a string of sabotage attempts on its planes by radicalized ground staff in a statement the airliner described the claims published in Le Canard Enchaîné as completely false and unfounded rumors

2:20:09 On Wednesday, the Investigative and Satirical Weekly reported that French intelligence had raised the alarm following a series of incidents involving Air France passenger jets at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport. That included an apparent attempt to cut the communication between the cockpit and the engines on several planes. According to the paper, around 40 jets were also dogged with ala Akbar or God is great on the fuel flap which resulted in one pilot refusing to take off. Yeah, I think i'm gonna sit this one out if you don't mind with y'all a walk bar on the fuel flap That's horrible. But they're so they're disputing it though They're saying uh, yeah, it's overblown It's not a big deal but I think that's a very big deal and I think is a huge deal And it doesn't surprise me Yeah, I think if I was flying around right now, I don't think air france would be at top of my list

2:21:02 Now on the other hand, it's exactly the one you want to fly with yeah because they'll be it'll be over monitored Yeah And the tickets will be on sale because most people won't fly it. Oh so nice cheap deal It's good all-around I tell ya yeah, it's a winner we cannot go through this show without talking about the escalation of tension between the United States and Russia This is this is unconscionable what is going on here? Yes, it is. This is this we are just you know we are just saying hey FU and I can only deconstruct this to be

2:21:40 They want to make everything for Trump look as bad as possible. I have no other idea why you would do this, why would you mess around with this? Josh Earnest spokesman for the White House answered a question. Since you've come out here and the State Department has announced we have actually suspended diplomatic consultations with Russia over Syria is President Obama's patience with Vladimir Putin on Syria officially at an end Well, Mark I think everybody's patience with Russia has run out. They've also spent a great deal of credibility in making a series of commitments without any clear indication that they were committed to following them so what we have seen from the Russians and the year or so since their military intervention in Syria is that they have not made much progress against ISIL

2:22:32 They claim that the reason that they're in Russia or in Syria is to fight extremists, but they haven't made a significant...they haven't achieved a significant counter-ISIL objective in more than seven months and they've been reduced to trying to claim credit for successful US operations. I'm referring of course to the U.S. strike it took al-Adnani off the battlefield he was a senior ISIL external plotter And Russia was in the position where they were rather pathetically trying to claim credit for having carried out that operation. I think that's an indication that they don't have too much to claim credit for when it comes to fighting extremists and fighting ISIL." So seriously? Everyone is fed up with Russia right now, we're just sick and tired of it, and we're just going to make all this noise where its gotten to the point where Russia suspended cleaning up plutonium

2:23:29 Even though Russia had said, hey we'd really like to work with you guys on these hacks because it's not us. And I might want to point out... Victoria Kagan Noodleman Oh yeah! She is in Moscow today! She deployed to Moscow yesterday and when Victoria Noodleman Kagelman is... Noodleman Kagan is in the house You've gotta be careful Regime change cannot be far behind Russia now deploying their air defense system to Syria. And this kind of brings back this story about the Pentagon spending half a billion dollars on propaganda, which I think most of our producers immediately said well you were right! You know? You're so right about the videos all those beheading videos or you know there those are fake and bogus they were paid for...I think that is a wrong take. I think it's actually much worse

2:24:29 Much much worse when you see what they were really doing and There's a couple of really good articles about this, but what these what this outfit was doing. They were pretty much doing all of the PR for something called the Syria campaign and the Syria campaign They are mainly pushing for a no-fly zone And that's where this money has been going has been you know to influence the media to get used to the idea that, you know... Yeah we should just have a no-fly zone. Which of course is going to be a big problem because there again the only jets flying around will be Russian jets so why this is taking place other than the only thing I can imagine is whatever happens let's discredit Donald Trump he's in bed with the enemy otherwise what else could it be?

2:25:22 Well, Ray McGovern the ex-CIA guy who's always showing up here and there. Oh yes. He has a... Is it Ray or Roy? One of the two. Maybe Roy. Anyway but he's just fantastic guy. He blames Israel! He says Israel is behind this whole thing I mean, it doesn't go into much detail as to what...but he has a on his webpage raymcgovern.com he has this little spiel on there and it's very interesting that should have clipped it just didn't have the time but I did want to minimize my clip today. Yeah maybe Sunday I'll get that clip for Sunday. This is what he says but he says all Israel... Really? Why does Israel want Russia out? What is the problem there?

2:26:06 I don't know if that may be us taking advantage of whatever's going on. Well, it's... I think your argument is trying to demonize the Russians so Trump looks like an idiot. That is there for sure but I don't like that thing playing with fire this just makes no sense very against this. Well, we know the Kagan's are more serious about this. They're not doing it... they don't care about Trump. No no they can know they just want to create World War III and they want to try get World War III going so that they can kill us all! I haven't..I mean those people are the worst Speaking of that there is some prophecies from this woman, I think she was Hungarian Baba Vanga Baba Vanga And she prophesied a long time ago

2:26:58 about World War three and I just and this list was sent to me, and it is wanted read a couple of the predictions And that for World War three predictions assassination murder attempts on four heads of state Will become one of the main causes for the start of world war 3 The one that I like the most is that she says world war three will start in Syria So I'm not much for Nostradamus stuff, but when you say Syria or specifically Damascus. Yeah, you know just throwing a little crazy out there for you well There's a lot of thought especially in the Israeli side that Syria should be destroyed the way Syria managed to destroy Lebanon Which was the one time considered the Paris of the Middle East in the 50s?

2:28:00 And it's just been rubble eyes because of various things that took place with some of these Muslim hate groups. So this is like a tit for tat? Now, you know the Israelis are into that tit for tat stuff. Interesting we need to talk about that. We need to talk about the SDR as and I kind of missed this because I was waiting since 2010 The IMF wanted the United States to ratify the 2010 IMF reforms and the whole idea was to get the Chinese yuan into this

2:28:36 single drawing rights into the basket. I have the future of the wand clip which discusses how they got into the basket and what it really means The elite club of reserve currencies used by the International Monetary Fund has a new member, the Chinese Yuan The list previously had four major world currencies, the US dollar, the euro, the British pound and the Japanese yen well the Chinese yuan also known as remin me is the fifth most used currency in international transactions many of its bills feature the image of German Mao Zedong as well as other communist leaders. The Yuan

2:29:16 Taiwan is only legal tender in mainland China and not in Hong Kong or Macau, which both have their own currency. Until 2005 it was tied to the US dollar meaning that when the dollar fluctuated up or down against other currencies the value of the Yuan would move with it. Let's go live now to Singapore where financial commentator and international investor Jim Rogers joins me, very welcome to the program Jim. I like Jim Rogers he is pretty funny Why do you think the Yuan is joining the reserve currency basket? What does that mean for global economy

2:29:53 It's nice to see you again. It's joining because the Renminbi is now one of the most important currencies in the world, You said it was the fifth most commonly used and it is Remember 15 years ago nobody knew that there was a Chinese currency! It has skyrocketed and its going to be even more important in the future How is this going to affect the four major world currencies that we're seeing already in the IMF's reserve basket, as we've just been mentioning? The dollar, euro, sterling and yen. Is this going to challenge the number one in that group – the dollars' international dominance at all or in time? The fact it's in the IMF current basket now is really just a publicity thing. It's not very important. It's significant that it's there but that's about all

2:30:39 Well, trade flows are what will change that. The fact that the British pound is in there has not helped it or the Swiss franc or the yen or anything else just because you're in the IMF basket means very little. What does mean something is trade flows and as I said, the renminbi 15 years ago was nothing now its already one of the most dominant currencies in the world Yet China has been the world's largest exporter since 2009, overtaking the US. What does the UN having reserve currency status mean to traders in particular?

2:31:15 Well, eventually we will all be using the renminbi. The renminbi is the only thing I see on the horizon which can challenge the U.S. dollar to become the world's reserve currency. It's not there yet but it is moving and moving fast." Now this is the exact same story that I've heard that the idea is this would become a shadow currency like the trading currency like the dollar or it would replace the dollar and now I believe you're skeptical Yeah, I'm skeptical because that's one of our great specialties. Well but answer me this... The American financial system like the way you found out that the American banks won? Right oh! I have a note on that too actually uh well... We're no slouches for maintaining this situation But here is the problem if we ratify the Paris Climate Change Agreement and we start to move towards his utopian world

2:32:13 no oil and gas, doesn't that by definition undermine our position as the world's reserve currency because people will be... I'm just playing devil's advocate here now that i think that'll happen. Doesn't it go contrary to saying oh we want to remain the world's reserve currency because it's tied to oil and oil is traded in that? I think so, perhaps. And I would guess that people like believing the globalists that are behind Obama and Clinton would love to see all this happen, all this bad stuff happen because one of the great ways to completely destroy our sovereignty and probably the economy is just to let it happen

2:32:59 American dollar not be the reserve currency that everyone trades in because we just gives us a lot of advantages But if we're a global world all one then your SDR thing comes true, right and all of a sudden We're dealing with some sort of international Bullshit this you know I won't be able to have a pocket full of SD ours in my wallet but it'll be on your smartphone John You'll have an app with your sdr is on. Yeah, I can have any money It'll just be an app but but I think that the people that really run things Which is on a slightly higher level than the I can yeah Are gonna let that happen? I'm hoping. Yeah, unless they're all in well I don't understand. I do not understand what I like I do and Silicon Valley billionaires are all in for Hillary Because they would just as soon be internationalist because it's an international world for them right

2:33:55 and they want international money. I just wanna remind you, John this is how Europe got into trouble the EU was sold to the people as no borders and we all have the same money that was for years i would lived in the in in the eu No...no borders don't have to show your it's almost like Obama saying going to take off your shoes when you get on the train which okay wait for that to not happen And we all have the same money. The same money is a big deal and I think that globalists in general would like to see that, would like to see something fair you know it's all... It's a basket everyone's involved everyone's apart and

2:34:38 I believe this is for China important because they are now issuing bonds in SDRs, the special drawing rights. Is that correct? I don't know anything about the bond market but i think that is... I don't know anything about China bonds so you..I don't know Okay we need to ask Horowitz about that because that's-i think that's the big deal is now they're writing bonds uh in SDRs which i believe they couldn't do previously in Yuan or Renminbi and the bond market is already such a quagmire who knows Well, the bond market's gonna collapse. So... And that screws up everything

2:35:14 that will screw up everything and it's going to happen because it is ridiculous at this point what we have for interest rates worldwide. Is it crazy to explain? And more negative interest rates in countries like Germany, I believe... Is it crazy to explain what a bond is and how the bond market works or what its for? I think a lot of people hear it and go, Bond this, James Bond... Well bonds are for all practical purposes but they get traded like items. This is like a bond represents loan to the company that you hold. So, you're acting as a bank when you buy a bond. I mean when you buy the bond, the bonds are already...the bonds were released and the money was received but as a loan to the company like for example Disney World in Orlando was built on

2:35:59 solely on bonds because Walt Disney thought the banks had screwed him when he tried to do Disneyland in Los Angeles. He says I don't want banks involved in this. So it's an alternative way to raise financing? Okay, but is it for early stages really for big companies who are already established? Companies when they need to make a loan they'll release a bunch of bonds take a bunch of money and those bonds stay out there Instead of paying interest to the bank for a loan you got from the bank, you pay it to the shareholders or holders of the bonds. So if you have a lot of bonds, you get like a check in the mail every so often. Okay and kind of like a dividend but only it's regular? No its a risk with interest. And it's fixed and it's for 10 years or whatever 5 years 20 years

2:36:43 Right, and the bond prices fluctuate based on the... So you get a fixed check in the mail when you own a bond. That doesn't fluctuate but if for example if the bonds compete with some other instruments and the interest rates start to go up Well, the bond prices start to come down because they on the open market sense that bonds are separate from the company in some way. I mean... So there's two things that part of we have one part which is the raising money part actually has more parts than for the quote unquote investor you get an ongoing annuity but

2:37:25 These bonds are also tradable and the value of the bond goes kind of against your unskilled financial thinking, whereas the bond price goes down as the interest rate goes up and vice versa. I'm sorry, but so people trade those actively just like their stocks. Right? And it's the active interest rate in other words the general interest rate that prevails and it varies from type of investment to type of an investment but if all of a sudden everybody... If the interest rates go say the Fed changes things and then all of a sudden we have our base interest rate of two or three percent instead of the next nothing- Well then the free money is over

2:38:08 Probably, yeah. Free money would be over. It's just kind of over for the average person anyway you can't get that free money right but they have the bonds will like if the I've said it before the bondage will collapse Meaning what? Meaning that no one wants to trade, no one wants to own these bonds because the companies won't actually be able to pay them off. Is that the idea? Well there's that. That's a different story but if you... If the bonds are paying 1% which like a lot of bonds might do. One percent which is nothing but it's stable It's more than the bank

2:38:46 Yeah, it's more than the bank. Generally they're a little more than the bank and so they pay 1% but all of a sudden every... The banks starts paying 5%. They wouldn't just do that I mean it would be ratcheted It would go one to one-and-a-half to two or three and then ratchets up And you could ratchet up quickly if you have hyperinflation You really have something on your hands. The bonds will be pretty close to being worth $1 worthless It's just right now it's a moment where the bond price is pretty hard for the bonds to go much higher because the interest rates are damn near zero. Right, and so when that falls apart then all the money kind of falls apart and then we go into our 27 depression as you have predicted? Actually the money doesn't necessarily fall apart

2:39:33 It just changes its relative value to other currencies, for example. That can happen right now the dollar is extremely powerful and it's a time to go to Europe. The pound is I think at a 75 year low when set against the dollar there's about 20-30 something like that very low. There's a lot...it's a complex mechanism but all I can tell you that the only thing Absolutely the case is that we cannot continue forever with this ridiculously low interest rate. Got it, well that means the bonds will collapse tomorrow morning in New York at the new house school of broadcasting there's called the radio audio summit and at this summit will be amongst other high-ranking officials from Sirius XM iHeartRadio Comcast who else is on this list

2:40:37 Let me see that's all Syracuse people. Uh, and as CEO of NPR Jarl Mohn j-a-r-l m-o-h-n who I know is... Ask him how advertising is doing Well so I want to You can't get through this thing without asking him specifically how Advertising is doing and see what he says well So this is a panel And, you know so it's going to be led by someone but just let me tell you what they sent us as the speakers on this panel and you tell me how I'm gonna get some good stuff in there or not. Okay before yeah okay now i just want to ask is this going to be recorded?

2:41:13 I sure hope so. It would be, i think it will be but it won't be...I don't think it'll be streamed live but it will be recorded yeah okay good okay So um here it is. I'd like everyone to come up with this and you know how this goes with uh with this panel Hi everybody! Thanks for your input thanks for your headshots thanks for the bios Okay uh I don't have the final draft of questions yet for third for he says third oh for Friday Um But I'd like everyone to come up with as many personal examples of the following as possible so I need your help John We need to be able to talk about great recent creative moments from your shop. And I think there we should say ISIS in America, Donate To No Agenda Al-Akbar and these are all great creative moments. Now you're confusing me! I don't know what that means? I thought a creative moment would be like some special that we did about the oil or something like that... Well it can be a creative moment so he says creative not most interesting, you know, creative

2:42:14 Something creative? Yeah. What about our jingles, how about to use douchebag? All right I'll try that oh you know we have uh our producers make- DOUCHEBAG! I'm sorry that didn't mean that for you um great creative moments elsewhere you've admired okay creative people in your midst that'll be fun now we have about i don't know 50 000 who work with us things you've heard in audio radio that are truly new and different Okay got a pencil you should definitely mention that we have We're the only podcast that has a new version of album art for each and every podcast. Instead of one general one, and that's very creative it takes a lot of people you could say we probably have 50 artists maybe 10 that are very dedicated who work on this every show twice a week right

2:43:05 Let's see, I'd like everyone to have at least one example of a creative idea that you are or were involved with that has never fully come to fruition and why? Well there is always my books. I say the podcast thing that you're working on hasn't come to fruition yet. It will, yeah. The podcast machine has something interesting as it's got something to do with the business. I think it'd be a good promotion for motion promotion. I like that small batch. Yes. Small nice. Yeah. Small batch. Small, small batch audio. Okay. We've had a million ideas out there have never gone to come to fruition

2:43:46 But I think that's probably the one you could, oh you know we should, hey hey hey. Airstream of consciousness? That's a good creative bit. Yeah but it has come to fruition! Oh yeah now I'm just saying I should have that on the back burner to talk about. What didn't come to fruition... Okay so here is okay, so we did this tour and wanted it to be sponsored by Hot Pockets. And they just wouldn't sponsor us so that really failed but we had a good time anyway Yeah, you could do that. Here let's see okay so... Was any real attempt made to get it sponsored by Hot Pockets? Yeah for a minute. Okay and here is a list of other possible questions the focus is creativity as experience... Stop stop how about the knighthoods and producerships yes yes

2:44:37 which we're the only ones who've perfected that. And it's very creative and people like it, but I think they'd like to become... Yeah, I think that will also come up later so here we go. Like everyone have at least one okay? So here's possible questions niche versus mass appeal how has the concept of what's mass appeal changed did the freedom to create for niche markets through podcasting playlisting multiple audio channels etc produce things that happen to be mass appeal I don't think in our case it has. We started off with mass appeal. Yeah, we went to niche. We never went to niche. Well what's master... What is our niche? Poverty?

2:45:22 The vow of poverty. When are you scared in the course of your day-to-day creative process? When should you power through... Oh God, oh my god I'm gonna use it! Let me read this again this is great. When are you scared, italicized when are you scared in the course of your day to day creative process when should you power through and do the thing that scares you when should you trust the initial instinct and turn back Well, this guy insane. So the good news is I'm scared all the time that there won't be another show because people don't like what we're doing. Yeah yeah we're walking a tight rope and also i think we get freaked out when something does stops working right? You get updated upgraded one of those the infrastructure fails us. There is a blimp landing as we speak

2:46:21 on the horse track. Breaking news everybody, we go over to John C. Dvorak who has breaking news about a horse track. John! There is a blimp that is over the horse track which I can see from my window because I'm in a hill that overlooks the track and there's a blimp A green and rainbow colored blimp That says save the rainforest one side and something about palm oil on the other Do you have your BB gun? And it slowly Dropping down to land apparently on the inner grass. They have a grass track and a regular dirt track. On the mud flats? The mud flats?

2:47:00 It's next to the mudflats, right next to the mudflats. And the mudflats by the way are still mud flats I see that and the blimp is landing there for some reason. Alright John do this! Do this! Oh the humanity! You just did it so... Onward onward. It is definitely landing though. I saw it out there spinning around you know just looking for a place to land now its landing. Alright onward Unless you have a flare gun, then I encourage you to shoot at it. What is the role of the listener slash consumer in creativity? Is user generated content as a buzzword or distant memory or just so much part of the landscape we don't need to talk about that now? Well, I know how to handle that! That's our whole producers versus listeners thing. We don't have listeners and consumers...I'm sorry

2:47:46 We find that insulting. We have producers who create this with us, they're not users who generate, they're producers! How about that huh? Pretty good huh? I like it, that's good. Is broadcast still a place for creative people and specifically where is the creativity if you have to live in a world of six second sweepers an eight minute listening occasions Wow... Not quite sure what to do with that I'll put it this way. The answer is there's plenty of room for creative people and there's more money available in broadcasting currently than there is anyplace else Can radio come up with the next big thing in audio? Because some people think it takes an outsider mentality Hello, podcasting

2:48:31 I don't know why you... No, the next big thing has been podcasting. Yeah it is. It's kind of in the dregs of, you know, it's moribund. Moribund! Use the word. Moribund? How do I use it in a sentence? The radio is moribund. It's not doing anything interesting or different than it has been since 1987 when Rush Limbaugh invented the talk format that he has, that new talk format where he does all the talking. Moribund? I just like moribund! I just want to say that. Why is it that all platforms end up turning to broadcast radio veterans eventually? What is it that only somebody with AMFM training can supply? What is it that only an outsider can offer? This goes through the culture of it

2:49:23 You can answer that question pretty well if you can get into a discussion, I think because I think it applies to a lot of podcasters who have had radio experience in their background or any sort of broadcasting experience. Well it's a skill! That's the answer...it's a skill and is you can learn it we have for example Jen Briney who does a fantastic podcast called The Congressional Dish Has no real, uh... The blimp has landed. Has no real broadcasting background that I know of and she's a natural so there are people that can- John! It has the hatch opened Are there little green men coming out of the blimp? Here is the problem The blimp is landing behind the only little grove of trees around the track And now it's out of view Oh man

2:50:18 All right. It's slating though, let's just get through this. So I just want to read two more and start starting to bore me now with the rise of off the air entities podcast playlisting OTT content how do you keep that? How do you keep the creativity on air as well? Oh TT hi my name is Adam Curry i'm an OTT content guy hey how are you doing so TT no idea over-the-top Maybe it's over the top. I think that's a cable box over the top, yeah? Over the top? How do you keep creativity on the air this is going to be rough does competition really make everything better or just more crowded well okay i understand what i have to do but it's going to be challenging i just want i just want to get when i need i need one zinger what doesn't work if you can't monetize the network they'll never understand that how do i say somehow when the distribution changed

2:51:18 your model got broken. You're in a slow motion death spiral, not just radio but television newspapers everything is in the slow motion spiral so eventually it makes no sense for you to be in control of the distribution of your product because these producers can distribute themselves that's the bottom line So the thing you need to do is get out of... People are going to roll in their eyes when you tell them that, even though it's true. Well I'll do a couple of cool Tourette's tics and then they'll be like, that guy is just nuts! Okay, well we'll talk about it later. In our special secret session? If people haven't tuned out by now they won't Well I think it's important This is totally important and will be a good promotion Hopefully Why don't you play us out with something nice here John Okay got one good clip I think we might as well go with this one This is the sticker shot clip

2:52:18 The people that were charged at the hospital for hugging a baby. Next tonight, the new parents in Utah with the case of sticker shock celebrating the birth of their son then they saw a surprising charge on their hospital bill. The father calling it ridiculous how many other families have paid this? Here's ABC's David Wright A Utah mother and father share their newborn's first few minutes of life. Priceless, right? Ryan Grassley thought so until he got the bill from the hospital that charge right there $39.35 The bill called it skin to skin contact I'm pretty sure you cannot blame this on Obamacare

2:52:58 It was a hot topic today on the U and social media after Grassley shared the bill on Reddit, where it struck a nerve. The hospital insists the charge is not for holding the baby but for the additional caregiver needed to maintain the highest levels of patient safety. They say they only bring in that extra nurse when it's a C-section. Grassley says in this case, the nurse borrowed his camera to take a few pictures as he held the baby on his wife's chest. He had no idea they'd charge him for it He has a sense of humor about the whole thing. Today he launched a GoFundMe campaign, the goal? $40. David Wright ABC News New York. Tweet us let us know what you think when we come back here in the meantime the deadly... Thanks Obama!

2:53:41 Thanks Obama. The funny thing was that Muir at the beginning of the piece says how many others have paid this? He asked that question and I didn't realize it was rhetorical you'd think they would cover that in their report, they didn't! So it's one of these things where you add it to front end and get a little cognitive dissonance out of it And the other thing is with the charge itself How do you come up with a charge for holding the baby Of $39.35 Hey, there's a code for it. You can charge for it! There is a code for your action. 35 cents? What is the 35 cents? This is nickel and... this what you call nickel-and-diming people to death Yeah but you get enough of those thirty five cents man and adds up yeah we're totally screwed all right so tomorrow in New York Sunday I'll have lots of talk about I'm still trying to figure out if we can do a meetup in New York as well a lot of people vying for attention and also just want to rest tired

2:54:42 Tired of the mold in Austin. Tired, tired... oh the mold is so bad Well the bar at Sparks is good for a meetup Yeah So I will be tweeting out and if it does happen John I'll let you know and then you can do a special mailing to everybody on Saturday or whatever Or whenever we do it Sure You can let everybody know Okay fantastic As long as your not on the mailing list Get on the mailing list Geez Already! Damnit Hi John, thank you very much for getting up early. I appreciate it's much earlier for you than it is for me Yes and Sunday will be doing the show from New York. It'll be fun and You never know well Sunday night of course is the second debate so we'll see And we'll just see if we're at war with Russia then or not that's what's on my mind yeah irresponsible

2:55:37 All right. Yep, until then everybody coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper in downtown Austin Texas In case you're looking for it You can find it on the map in FEMA region 6 and our next show on Sunday Remember us at Dvorak org slash na until then good morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley I'll have ready for the next show some Confucius say. I'm John C. Dvorak. All right, until Sunday everybody! Until then we say adios mofos! As a general rule i am just fine with drinking the booze. Hold on a second... and drinking the booze

2:56:37 No, no, no. Hey! No, no, no. Listen... And drinking the booze. It's not respectful when you get invited to somebody... I know that's right. You're not going to get a good response from me by interrupting me like this. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Come on! No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

2:57:57 No no no no. Hey! Tastes like poo. The outrage when, I think it's a Playboy is going to feature a Muslim woman in a hijab Yeah, hijab What's the point? Naked No not naked What was the point? Wait for the... Well i think they'll have problems anyway I think this very dangerous thing to do We can't be doing that we cant' be drawing cartoons My buddy Tao Fung Hock was killed because he made a movie about

2:59:11 Muslim women, which I can and can't do. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. Wait for the outrage... you got to be careful. Hey man fist bump! Adios mofo! The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A