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00:00 Well, we didn't give it to him. Protecting your mental hygiene from the mainstream mayhem and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Texas, FEMA Region 6. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where Confucius say girl with many men on string usually get into tangle. I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Yeah maybe you shouldn't do those

00:40 I had people tell me it was great. Can you fit it into the intro music then at least? Just try that, just try to fit it into the intros and- Read a little faster. It sounds kind of... yeah could you read a little faster please? Uh yeah. Hold on John we have breaking news breaking news! It is of course show day and uh on show day- Oh something's gotta be going on, it's a bomb man. Yeah well we have a train crash in New Jersey bad one bad one as a Rubicon yeah, New Jersey so A little bit no a train crashed into a station in Hoboken work well Interestingly enough as you know we have producers around the world

01:28 Many of them who are in interesting places. So this is an anonymous email that came in this morning, well I know it is but its anonymous My dad is a conductor! I just spoke with him Here's the theory floating around New Jersey Transit and the theory is this crash was intentional and possibly terrorism Oh, okay. Well that's going to lighten things up this week Here we go Number one The train could not have been going through the rail yard that fast or a conductor the tower or passenger would have been concerned and pulled the emergency brake Also the train would probably derailed before the station because of all the switches The train must've accelerated as it was pulling into the station Point number two Hoboken is one of the busiest stations in the state and is the only one that's guaranteed to have every track end

02:17 Guaranteed to have every track end. Not quite sure what that means. End? End! Yeah, so it ends. Every track has one of those bumpers. So no matter which one you were on it would end. You can't go through the station and you can't go wrong I think is the point all other major stations have tracks that go through the station there you go even New York Penn only has three tracks at end Point number three It could not have been a medical emergency from the engineer. This one I knew there's of course, a dead man switch. The engineer needs to press every 30 seconds to acknowledge he is alert and okay or the train stops and number four...

02:53 That train and time is heavy with commuters. If you wanted to do something and have a huge impact, that would be the place in time to do it." So he will give us more info as it comes along but that is what the New Jersey Transit Authority and at least the conductors are thinking about what has been going on Well, we're on top of the news this week. Hold on a second. Yeah, we're on top of the news for you everybody! There ya go I don't think anybody's carrying that right at this second Now no one has that information Of course not No, no, of course not Alrighty then I will say it was all jacked up about the debates. It's hoping that we have some more insight than that you've already gotten from the too many discussions about them, yeah? All slanted in one way or another mm-hmm You want to give you what did you okay? Yeah? Well, but I haven't well you wanted asking my impression What were you gonna do wanna talk first before I give your mind okay?

03:52 My impression first 20 minutes Trump did very well. He had Hillary on the ropes you could see it and Well, actually there were a couple of things I noticed first of all, I believe that all that Bullcrap about the podium and everything that seemed to me to be really just a distraction for what really happened. And I thought this was kind of odd how it showed up, we had Hillary Clinton on the screen right wearing red and Donald Trump on the screen left wearing a blue tie To me that, you know we know left blue red right. I just thought that was an interesting dynamic that showed up and i don't know if that was intentional or because they negotiate a lot of things about what colors they're going to wear certainly ties have always been the point of discussion so i'm not quite sure if that was

04:44 That was something that was intended to give some, you know, to confuse people or I don't know. There's also the stuff behind them but two of them that had hidden messages. Oh there were a lot? Well there was one thing that i know for sure Trump was doing that did not work and I could see it in his face he kept drinking a little bit of water and I could see him looking at Clinton going I mean, does it bother you yet? Is your throat scratchy? Don't you want to cough?" That could be. I think he was doing anything he could get her to clear her throat... Well then of course she had the sniffles and I think... The sniffles thing was... Let's get into that now. I just wanted to finish my thought. Yeah okay.

05:28 To me, and Scott Adams has a different opinion of why he think Trump did everything he had to do. And according to Scott Adams the persuasion technique all you had to do was show that he's not crazy and he can keep his anger in check To me, I think the thing that really hit home from him... because of course this is not going to sway any Hillary Clinton voter or any Donald Trump voter. Nothing will change those minds. No, they would die of beholder. He said look you've been around here for 30 years and now all of a sudden you got good ideas? That was good! If he didn't pound that home enough he could have kept doing that. Let me give my quick impression

06:12 Hey, here's what I find final if you want to talk about who won. Hillary Clinton and definitely even though not in content is not important, but she did win. I think the debate for everyone, everyone's feeling kicked his ass. Yeah. Totally. And then the thing when she did their little Oh-ho-ho and she did a little shimmy and that's so funny. She ridiculed him and knocked him off of his game completely he was here's what bothers me? And you could say well i think Trump won it doesn't really make as much difference So as far as I'm concerned, you're right. Nobody's going to change their votes. They're just gonna dig in and now they get more critical of the independent candidates less so Hillary. Here is what bothers me Trump made during the initial debates during the primary debates

06:59 And he didn't do it once or twice. He did it a number of times and I can almost still hear him saying, oh, I'm going to love to debate Hillary! I am going to wipe the stage with Hillary! I am going to kill Hillary up there! She doesn't have a prayer against me!" He bragged and bragged about how much he wanted to debate Hillary...and this is the performance he gives? I'm reminded of the wide receiver for the Oakland Raiders This guy, Tim Brown. There's nothing like a sports analogy when you give it to me, John love that Tim Brown is a wide receiver who was one of the best receivers the Raiders have ever had. They finally get to a Super Bowl where he gets to play into his super bowl. He goes out there and I think he makes one catch the whole game but at one time with one of these cornerbacks is guarding him because either drops a ball and the quarterback says You've been waiting 20 years for this? And this is what you're showing us

07:57 Yeah, it was pretty much like that. I agree That's what it was It was Trump big talker about how he's gonna wipe the stage with Hillary and here's what he comes up with He blows it! I was watching it with My daughter's boyfriend came over because he had a political science thing. I think you want to take some of my takes on this The two of us are watching this together. And he and there's opportunities, especially the one where Trump starts going or Hillary starts going off on law and order where Trump could have come in if he was listening and called her out for the crime bill and all that other stuff. He wimply says something about predators and she gives him softball after softball that he can hit out at the park. He had nothing! No

08:47 He had a couple of things that did show up on alternative mainstream channels like CNBC. The whole day after the bait, they were playing the clip of him talking about the Fed. I think he was right about that! Well, it's an old Ron Paul thing. It's not that new. No, it's not new. It's not new but that was just something I liked but I agree with you where was this a tactic? Was this some strategy? I don't know what's going on but it was not good. It was not good first 20 minutes like okay this is interesting even getting there even Tina and I are watching it seems like oh man what did this bad he's not good. This is bad. He stunk yeah then he goes has the nerve to say

09:33 Well, that's what you do. I mean come on... He could have apologized for his performance What is interesting though is the response from my UK friends Oh my gosh! They were like NO! No principle he has no content and doesn't know what he's doing They're brainwashed over there. That's what I told my friends and uh, I haven't heard from them I may no longer have friends in the UK you have actually saying Donald Trump is a criminal. I said now you See now? I know you've been brainwashed Yeah, I know. Here's an example of Trump not listening. I want you to play this clip. This is Hillary slamming Trump on the stop and frisk thing. Listen to this carefully. A dire negative picture of black communities in our country. You know the vibrancy of the black church?

10:31 Black businesses that employ so many people, the opportunities that so many families are working to provide for their kids. There's a lot that we should be proud of and we should be supporting and lifting up But we do always have to make sure we keep people safe. There are the right ways of doing it and then there are ways that are ineffective stop-and-frisk was found to be unconstitutional, and in part because it was ineffective It did not do what it needed to do now I believe in community policing Right as he goes on mm-hmm now if he was listening

11:15 He would have called her out and got her off track by asking her the simple question or pointing out She said, and I caught this immediately when she said it. She said stop-and-frisk was found unconstitutional Partly because it was ineffective Yeah Now what is constitutionality have to do with effectiveness ever? Nothing nothing And I don't believe, was it ruled unconstitutional? No. It was ruled unconstitutional by a lower court but never got very far. And they would got to a waste of time on that. But when she said it was unconstitutional, partly because it was ineffective... Why? Was he paying any attention to that? No no no no! That's the dumbest thing she said! You want to go through the whole debate and talk about things you should have done because to me is like I can hear that anywhere. Yeah I can hear that anywhere yeah I don't need that

12:16 But I pointed this particular one out because nobody noticed it. That's a very good well It's not like the mainstream is gonna pull that up and say hey boy water. What uh what a gash No. You want to hear the best gaffe of the whole night? Of course, of course! It's not really a gaffe that was on the debates it's this one it's the debate C-SPAN misspelling of Hillary. Play debate C-SPAN misspelled Hillary. My ears only glazed over three times Nancy puts out unscientific time poll 62% think that Hilary won

12:55 And NBC, New York NBC has this tweet. They misspelled Hillary's name on the debate 2016 ticket they only used one L in her first name. That's made by cable! I thought that was funny the other cable with the other one... I thought The C-Span would... C-Span it was the best i mean they're there the absolute is that way Is that what you watched the debate on? On C-Span I watched it on, I switched around and i can talk about that when I go through my notes but all right. I switched from every one to the other to see what how they were doing it differently but C-SPAN because they do they really interact with the public. They're the closest thing to like the network on TV or the internet on tv yeah people call in and you know

13:42 Yeah, they call in and one guy went crazy. They had to cut him off because he was talking about Hillary's red dress being the devil or something but they read these tweets and this one I just was so funny to listen because we've just watched the debate then this tweet comes in This is their top tweet. I just thought it was hilarious And finally this tweet from Congressman Brendan Boyle Democrat of Pennsylvania near Philadelphia To all people of the world, I respectfully request you please not watch this debate. Please look away. Thank you." Now that was not the best tweet though! There was an even better tweet that was discussed to the next day... Okay? Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean is standing by his controversial tweet about the source of Donald Trump's sniffles throughout Monday night's debate. Dean tweeted Monday quote

14:36 Notice Trump sniffing all the time? Coke user? Here he is speaking yesterday with MSNBC's Kate Snow. I love this! I'm suggesting we think about it because here's the kids are interesting constellation so he sniffs during the presentation which is something that users do. He also has grandiosity, which is something that accompanies that problem. He has delusions...I am not talking about being crazy but for example when he told everybody was very smart not to pay taxes and then denied after he said in front of 100 million people It's not that he's delusory or anything like that

15:13 he thinks somehow he's not going to get caught. That is delusional, He has trouble with pressured speech. He interrupted as you pointed out Hillary Clinton 29 times and couldn't keep himself together so look I do i think at 70 years old he has a cocaine habit? Probably not but You know, it's something that I think would be interesting to ask him and see if he ever had a problem with that. And now let's listen to the Morning Joes respond... What in the world? No need! It's going on there we know Howard like Howard wonder what in the world is going on?! A doctor

15:51 Diagnosing a coke problem because the guy was sniffing? I think apology's in order. Yeah, it's also just not necessary if you're trying to be... And I'll just say if a Trump surrogate said something like that... Oh my god we'd go crazy! A Trump surrogate would get killed Well at least they have some self-awareness Now, Dean. Dean doubled down but I got one more. Dean doubled down on this did you want to say something? I just wanted mention that Trippie Joe Trippe came on one of the on Brett Hume show and he said that Dean should apologize too and so i thought that was pretty because he's the one who did the he met Joe Tribbie is a guy who made Howard Dean oh okay right right

16:36 Now Howard Dean is a medical doctor. He's high up in the DNC still, isn't he? Isn't he like a muckety-muck? I believe so. Yeah and we know the Goldwater rule is you never do an analysis of someone say this is what's going on because you can get sued for that later uh...and so dean remains serious about his possibility. This is again on MSNBC, guy just keeps on going. So look I do i think at 70 years old he has a cocaine habit? Probably not! Well then that's enough isn't it they're really trying to spin this up but

17:16 You know, it's something that I think would be interesting to ask him and see if he ever had a problem with that. So as a physician and as a medical person yourself you're suggesting that we ought to look at whether the Republican candidate for president has a cocaine habit? I don't think he has a cocaine habit. Not a habit, maybe just a little toot for the snoop once in awhile. I'll make any diagnosis over the television. I don't...I think that's wrong and doctors shouldn't do it. Doctors have done it in the past and they shouldn't do it." And that is his lawyer talking. by the sniffing and then by his behavior which all sort of came together, these four symptoms. Do I think he has a cocaine habit? I think it's unlikely that you can mount a presidential campaign at 70 years old with a cocaine habit but it was pretty striking This is reminding me a lot sir of Rudy Giuliani a few weeks ago raising very not similar but different questions about medical history and your candidate Hillary Clinton

18:15 to which your campaign responded this is inappropriate that we shouldn't be raising questions about Hillary Clinton with absolutely no substance or proof. You don't see the parallel? Donald Trump has not only made his tax returns public, he's also not made medical history public in any meaningful way. Hillary Clinton has done that and it answered any question that Giuliani may want to raise What if a Trump supporter had suggested that Hillary Clinton was using drugs last night I suspect that she would have said no, I'm not and here's my medical report that shows so. Oh! So you're saying Donald Trump should answer your question? I know what i'm saying is, I raised the question last night. Do I? I don't make diagnoses on the television. I think you can't do that it was medically improper and I don't think he should but I don't think this is a ridiculous idea or something funny was going on with Trump last night. Do I think of cocaine probably not but again the sniffling, the grandiosity, the delusions

19:11 the pressured speech. This guy's already proven himself to be unstable, the question is why is he unstable? You're not gonna delete the tweet you don't regret it and you don't apologize for it, right? No absolutely right I like it. This is very good dirty tricks now the dirt, the better thing when I saw this, I just saw the sniffling cause he started right away with it. Yeah. I saw it as an opportunity that he had another one that he blew which was to pull out a handkerchief because he had issues. He has a cold or allergies or something like that. Or allergy whatever he should have pulled out of handkerchiefs just at the moment Taylor you're saying something and

19:54 And done that By the way, I loved his power move in the beginning where he shakes his hand and puts his other hand on her back. Oh man Power move yeah well Power move hey, I thought that would you know? That's nutty I like it Yeah, no, I'm enjoying a dirty trick Howard Dean is still at you know a jilted lover Yeah And he's always been a really extreme... Constraint progressive type lefty. Yeah, and he's also he's pissed because He got kicked out of any chance of winning because it was stupid scream So I think he's this is probably personally saying you know what the hell man Like I got bumped off for a first screen You know at least the idea he might be on the coke is worth kicking him out isn't it yeah?

20:54 But this is not how it works with Donald Trump. He could actually rail up and do lines on the lectern, and still probably would be in the race! I think he should have blew his nose during the debate maybe two or three times every once in a while you brought your handkerchief out because he has an excuse, he has sniffles everybody noticed him So he could have brought a handkerchief out and blew his nose just every so often right after Hillary said something, you blow his nose. You know what he needs? He needs one of these foot switches like I have that can just tap there's that and then you can sniffle all you want What he needs is a joke writer. The guy's got no sense of humor in the clutch. He was a choke artist! Hello, choke artist? Yeah it seemed like he choked I agree Let me ask you question One of the many conspiracy theories swirling around one which i actually like Is that Hillary had hand signals for Lester Scratching her nose when she wanted Lester to come to him

21:58 Well, there was one clip. I don't know if i have the clip yeah i think i do um Hillary on crime i think it's the i think it's the hillary on crime clip uh where she's giving her just her little spiel and then Lester, as if she didn't finish, she missed the talking point. Gives her a cue he kind of prompts her like leads the witness and gets her to say more. Justice system we cannot just say law and order We have to come forward with a plan that is going to divert people from the criminal justice system

22:39 deal with mandatory minimum sentences which have put too many people away for too long, for doing too little. We need to have more second chance programs I'm glad that we're ending private prisons in the federal system i want to see them ended in the state system you shouldn't have a profit motivation to fill prison cells with young americans so there There are some positive ways we can work on this. And I believe strongly that common sense gun safety measures would assist us right now, and this is something Donald has supported along with the gun lobby right now. We've got too many military-style weapons on the streets in a lot of places our police are outgunned. We need comprehensive background checks and we need to keep guns out of the hands of those who will do harm. You should speed it up faster here at this point?

23:30 That's not the clip then. That was your production moment du jour, well hold on let us redeem ourselves what was beautiful to witness is most of my clips are always after the debate I love the analysis that is what I love how people pick this up Believe me I listened to the debate recorded the debate There wasn't much to clip from the debate. No, I know and i'm not saying that we did anything wrong but it started my favorite moment when so after the debate and the press is all around the Hillary bus And she's getting on the bus and she comes back and she butt slams She butt slams Donald Trump But listen to this a CNN I believe Listened to the media squealing with delight coming is and that's what I'll do for the American people

24:20 and looking forward to it. What about his stamina? Anybody in the planes without the microphone is not having a good night. Oh my goodness, a little zinger there at the end right here we're talking about Anybody who had microphone problems is having a real problem. As you know, this morning Donald Trump was complaining about microphone problems. They just love it! Wooo! Oh! Oh! That's great! Oh yeah! Whoa! You got butt-slammed! Ho ho ho ho! Mmhmmm... Alright? They love that like oh we have a quote we can use

25:01 But I have a few more things unless you wanna...you got some more that you want to...? No, you keep going. I got a few things that are kind of interesting but they're again not during the debate again, I get the after the debate like Brit human cats going over some article like ran in The New York Times and this is just kind of back-ass analysis. Here's the thing that I found most interesting from the debate it was a clear setup And I think it's very poorly prepared because things are already seemingly going wrong. Maybe it doesn't make any difference, but and this is where Clinton really got under Trump skin by saying all well you called this former Miss Universe contestant you called her miss piggy and she's fat she had to lose weight

25:53 And you know, oh and she's now an American citizen. She is voting for me." You can see Trump was like where did he get that from? That's what he said. What is this? Where do you get that from? Here's a quick post debate clip from Today Show. is to hear Hillary Clinton bring up her story on live national TV, but she is an enthusiastic Clinton supporter who's adding her voice to the list of women who have accused Donald Trump of sexist behavior over the years. Okay so she was surprised John! She was just watching a debate and all of sudden oh my gosh Hillary's talking about me

26:35 idea. Okay, so the oh gee that was just and shame on you today show shame on you now I'm trying to which order I should do this in now doing disorder So first let's go to now so now this Alicia Machado and this is something that happened I guess in 80 know 97 right when Trump bought the Miss Universe pageant And so Alicia is now going on all the shows and her job is to tell, you know, to confirm of course what Hillary Clinton said about her. Yes this is probably a paid gig I wish someone would ask her Right well it's probably a paid gig but the thing is she is no good! And she has a lot of problematic background but here is Megyn Kelly

27:30 who puts her on the spot. And another thing, her English is mediocre she's you know it's like she's better speaking english than I would be speaking Spanish for sure but that doesn't help our situation so i think that the Clinton campaign really threw this woman out there...I don't know if there'll be any backlash but here is the start of what could become backlash. As a result of what he said to you By the way, this is Megyn Kelly in her very concerned voice. And don't forget Megyn Kelly if you remember I think it's in the newest Lehner report she's Most people assume and this came out of the WikiLeaks that Megan is a Hillary supporter Well She certainly helped Trump in this one as a result of what he said to you

28:22 developed an eating disorder, bulimia and anorexia. But you had said publicly at the time that you suffered from both of those eating disorders prior to the Miss Universe contest and really have come into... No no never! Never ever! Okay so just so we understand One of the claims is because of Trump's attitude and how harsh he was in calling her miss Piggy, she developed an eating disorder because of that. Oh yeah she must have had that far in one of these beauty pageant competitions which are cutthroat but she has such a weak will that happened. Well as it turns out

29:04 It's just not true. Prior to Miss Universe pageant, I never had any person be part of the Miss Universe. Well this is from Washington Post... Sorry that happened after Miss Universe. Let me tell you what i'm referring to and then you respond The Washington Post from May 16th 1997 reported this quote from you. I was anorexic and bulimic but almost all of us are When I was preparing for Miss Universe, it was an obsession for me to not gain weight. By the time I won, I was actually recovering but the year leading to it, I didn't eat at all and whatever I ate, I threw up. I weighed 116 pounds when I won. I was skeletal." So there is a same Alicia Mercado saying

29:53 before Trump was even involved, that she had this eating disorder. But that can't be true. It sounds like without diminishing anything you went through after Trump it does sound like you had an eating disorder prior to his comments and prior to winning no? No I'm sorry but that was not maybe in that moment they the company Miss Universe in a specific person They manipulate okay, I love mation about me. Okay? I got it so I understand of course It's the Miss universe who manipulated that and put that statement Because I know this person and he's not a good person That is the point the point is no more abuse for us no more

30:43 abuse for the girls. Now that was kind of the start, but then she went on a pooper show and there is some history to this young lady. And the way I understand it is she was involved in some form of crime. She drove the getaway car. This isn't shown though...she was a porn actress for awhile

31:23 And Pooper tries to kind of get her to correct the record and once again this is not the person you want. Let me ask, you said that Trump campaign will try to discredit you there are There are reports that Trump surrogates tonight have been referencing and pointing to on CNN and elsewhere about an incident in 1998 in Venezuela where you were accused of driving a getaway car from a murder scene. You were never charged with this. The judge, in the case also said you threatened to kill him after he indicted your boyfriend for the attempted murder. I just want to give you a chance to address these reports that the Trump surrogates are talking about

32:04 He can say whatever he wants to say. I don't care, you know? I have my past of course everybody has oh Everybody has a past and i'm not uh A saint girl but that is not the point now That um moment in venezuela was wrong was another speculation about my life because I'm a really famous person in my country, because I am an actress there. Actress? And in Mexico too and he can use whatever he wants to use The point is that happened 20 years ago Okay unlike what happened twenty years ago with Trump then it's different Here's another opportunity squandered

32:59 Because if they're gonna bring the dredge up 20 years ago, that's the right timing for Hillary's commentary about the blacks being predators and super predators. And the crime bill just dropped the ball again! Yeah well this of course wasn't in the debate I do have a little bit of... No it wasn't no her he brought it was a debate. I understand what you're saying but he was caught off guard He had no idea what to do with that audio from video from 1997, Trump is sitting there with Alicia Mercado. And you have to understand when he bought the Miss Universe contest in 97, in 96 this was Miss Venezuela and she was going to compete and now he said look, you gotta lose some weight which

33:46 By the way, is exactly what's happening in a beauty contest. We review the ridiculousness of these things once or twice a year and now all of a sudden when the guy who owns it whose job is to make women look great...now he's a dick! for saying, hey you gotta lose some weight. But if you listen to it here is a press conference with Trump with Alicia with the trainer that he brought in for her and the press. This stuff is terrific but I like golf I like tennis. When do you want? You come here with me. I'll work out with her anytime she wants What is your advice to Alicia? Well, I don't think Alicia needs much advice. I will say that last year before I owned the Miss Universe contest, I went to the Miss Universe contest last year it was in Las Vegas and I felt that Alicia was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen it was incredible and all of the folks that were here agreed with that

34:41 Alicia is like me and like a lot of other people. I love to eat, we all love to eat not all of us some of you are lucky but we eat We like to eat And she had tremendous pressure put on her with the wind and everything else plus she was going from country to country All foreign places...and there was huge amount of pressure Some people when they have pressure don't eat and some people when they have pressure eat too much like me, but like Alicia. And what she's going to do now is she has one of the great trainers in the world and a very famous man in his own right and he has been working with her for the last few days And I think she's gonna show up at that contest actually being probably a little bit heavier than when she won it. A little heavy. But you think that's actually better? When she won it, she weighed about 118 pounds. Too light for her! Actually from what I understand, a little bit heavier but I will say when she won the contest I had never seen anybody more beautiful So they're talking about weight which by the way I never hear anyone bitching and moaning about boxing matches when we have weigh-in Oh! It's fat shaming

35:43 Fat fighter you. So anyway, the whole thing is bullcrap but that's what no agenda show does is to dive in and... Once in a while, I'll give you a little bit of background. But oh my goodness... I'll give you a Borderline Clip Of The Day for digging that one up! Oh thank you, I appreciate it. I got a couple more... Let me see now.... That's a good dig. I admire that clip and it kind of changes the perspective on the whole thing yeah and it's like you know again Maybe, you know it's not that very much out of left field the way she brought it in and then she twisted it. And Trump was flat-footed! Yeah that was disappointing I'm sure he was disappointed himself You know I can't believe... He is flat footed the whole night Well um but have a few more Sean Penn was on Colbert

36:43 I saw Sean Penn on Colbert. I couldn't get a clip out of it though Oh, I got a clip out of it right off the bat there's only one clip to get! I don't think there is political debate going on so I didn't watch it It's a social debate That's interesting because its hard to see who won and people are trying to figure out who scored political points you think it's more social points? Its basically that there are two options either you can decide to divorce yourself from loving your children piss on a tree and show that you have the power to piss on a tree or you can go out and vote in a very big way for someone like Hillary Clinton who then you can challenge and support which is the only way that any kind of president can have any success, and you stick it out for four years. Or we can just masturbate our way into hell with

37:39 At this point I'm thinking, okay yeah that's an option. And we'll just pile on... Now go back to that option one more time because that was very appealing. The guy who looks like the only blonde magician If you're referring to Trump i don't think Trump could actually masturbate his way to hell because hands too small But wait there is more! Pile on! Proportional match

38:16 I understand. So yeah, let's just go that in that direction was very classy and again of course Colbert by the way Sean Penn still sounds like Spicoli doesn't he? Yeah, you could masturbate your way into hell man. Hey man! That'd be great So he is on CBS that's CBS is the CIA thing Sean Penn has got some new thing that he read which was a novel that he wrote under a pseudonym that he narrates and it talks about him being in the CIA according to Colbert earlier in that interview And, of course that would make nothing but sense because Sean Penn doesn't do TV. I've never seen him on one of these talk shows before because he's kind of a... Very seldom. Well very very seldom. He didn't even remember the last time he did one. Did I ever tell you this story when I flew to LA with Sean Penn? No

39:10 So, uh... We're open for anecdotes on this. Yes! Um.. This is back in the MTV days Yeah probably 88-89 and there was a fabulous FABULOUS flight between New York and Los Angeles And Los Angeles to New York That's all it did twice a day called MGM Grand Air Oh yes that was an interesting plane MGM Grand Air was a 727 or 737? I want to say 27 No no It was a longer plane It was either a 27 or a 8 It was 27 You could only, I think it was like 50 passengers. Of course MTV paid for this because they needed to get me out there. It wasn't that much more expensive than a regular ticket actually

39:47 And so it had a bar, it was all captain's chairs and then state rooms. There were like four or five state rooms where you could sit three people on each side, the table would come up so you could eat, the doors could close... Now I'd been in those once before- Like a train? Like a train! I've been in those ones before by myself and it was fantastic because you can move the two benches together, have a huge double bed, it was great but this one time I'm in there with Sean Penn In the stateroom with his brother, the one who died and Sean Penn's mom. And it was weird! First of all, what was his brothers name? I don't remember He was drinking beer out of a can taking off his shirt in the plane

40:32 It was just bare chested there. I mean, the mom was just very quiet and it was really odd like a Hey how you doing? Hey, you're that guy from VH1 aren't ya? I'm like oh Jesus. Vh1 must have been the greatest insult of your life Yeah so i said yeah thats me hey what was it like being married to Madonna if you don't mind me asking he said hell hath no fury And then we pretty much just looked at each other for the rest of the flight. Very, very bizarre." So you never got into a conversation with him? No! You couldn't. His brother's walking around drunk and he's all in the corner all kind of like quiet... I don't know how it happened. Well anyway i found the whole thing to be just classic CBS and its bias and- Also the way he goes out and interviews people you could almost think that that would be

41:29 Could be agency related work. Oh, you're talking about Sean Penn? Yeah! That was implied on the show. Yes. He's been all over the world he's been here and there. It's almost like he met with Fidel Castro hung out with Hugo Chavez Colbert grilled him about this. What are you doing this for? Why are you going here and he named a bunch of these things He says, you know I'm his excuse was you saw it Yeah You know, I'm just a curious guy and just curious just want to hey curious anybody else is curious Just curious by the way that the president was on Radio show Chicago radio show I think

42:12 And he said something that really pissed me off because I, you know this idea and you cannot convince people outside the United States and most people inside the United States that we do not have a two-party system. We have many other candidates. We have, you know, Stein, Johnson... we have my favorite, Verman Supreme everybody a free pony he's independent it is not just the two-party system and I really don't like people saying well if you vote for them it's a vote wasted your vote don't count there's no good as it might will be voting for Trump Actually Obama came out and said that. He said... I have it here, I have the clip. Because I didn't make that clip If you don't vote That's a vote for Trump If you vote for A third party candidate who has no chance to win That's a vote for Trump Wow! Fuck You! It pisses me off Its very bad Thats the president thats a constitutional lawyer Its very bad for him And by the way if you voted for a third party it made be a vote for Hillary

43:18 No, this is also true. If you're going to take that logic there's no logic that says if you vote for... so I'm voting for... if I vote for Jill Stein yeah that might be a vote for Trump in some existential world but if I vote for Gary Johnson Which is more likely that people are going to vote for Gary Johnson. That may be taking a vote away from Trump. Could be, could be. It's bull crap! It doesn't make any difference. Vote for who you think should be president. But it's also not okay. It's not okay... No its true. The President shouldn't do this stuff. Not doing that. Anything he does on the law- He's very poor as a role model but he's just a bad person. Yeah. Yeah. Never gone- That has been a bad person what he did Now we got couple of notes from producers of ours

44:02 One was very long. I'm so disappointed you guys don't cover Gary Johnson, other people are like hey man Johnson he's saying all this good stuff and my reply is hey look we do media deconstruction when the media starts giving them air time which they're doing now we'll have it for you unfortunately The guy is amazing. Chris Matthews set the trap for Donald Trump, if you recall. The trap was hypothetically if having an abortion was against the law what has to happen? And Trump was dumb and he jumped into the hypothetical and he said well they'd have to be punished so now it's like hey women get an abortion! You gotta be punished

44:44 And that was a good trap. And he sprung one on Gary Johnson that just befuddled the guy I like how he tried to handle it but jeez Louise! Who's your favorite foreign leader? Who's my favorite? Just name anywhere in the country, any one of the continents. Any country. Name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to anybody. I'm talking about living. That was well is the VP You gotta do this! Anywhere, any continent Canada Mexico Europe over there Asia South America Africa name a foreign leader that you respect. I guess i'm having an Aleppo moment in the former president of Mexico But I am giving you the whole world

45:21 I know, I know. Anybody in the world you like? Anybody! Pick any leader The former president of Mexico Which one? I'm having a brain... Well name anybody! Fox, Diaz, Says Floyd What's your favorite foreign leader? Get him off the hook Name a foreign leader he respects He was terrific Any foreign leader? Merkel Okay fine, save yourself Can't argue with that! Wow, the most hated woman in Europe I really respect her for letting a million migrants come in and fuck everything up. Sorry I'm being out this was this was the trap that was that was done with the sir The media loves doing this stuff because it's just making a fool out of somebody You just need a little research to figure out how to do it And he did agree he was boom boom boom boom Yeah, and then Matthews is badgering him which he does This is what my flight instructor used to do

46:16 You know, he'd be like, all right what are you gonna land if you do this right now? If this happens what are you gonna do? And it's very good training but you need to have the training before you can go and do it in a real life situation. So I feel bad for Gary Johnson- Eight minutes to remember this. Oh yeah. What newspapers do your read and she froze. These are all... Somebody pointed out on one of them Right Wing talk shows on the radio That it appeared to them as if they because the CIA we know is working for on behalf of Hillary that they had done a deconstruction of Donald Trump to find his trigger points and Everything Hillary did there, but hot button. Did she gets throw this like that's what she do with the Machado thing Yeah You could throw these things in and he would freeze And he didn't it worked they worked and by the way for people who say well to you again? You just show this shit nobody's good at

45:21 I know, I know. Anybody in the world you like? Anybody! Pick any leader The former president of Mexico Which one? I'm having a brain... Well name anybody! Fox, Diaz, Says Floyd What's your favorite foreign leader? Get him off the hook Name a foreign leader he respects He was terrific Any foreign leader? Merkel Okay fine, save yourself Can't argue with that! Wow, the most hated woman in Europe I really respect her for letting a million migrants come in and fuck everything up. Sorry I'm being out this was this was the trap that was that was done with the sir The media loves doing this stuff because it's just making a fool out of somebody You just need a little research to figure out how to do it And he did agree he was boom boom boom boom Yeah, and then Matthews is badgering him which he does This is what my flight instructor used to do

46:16 You know, he'd be like, all right what are you gonna land if you do this right now? If this happens what are you gonna do? And it's very good training but you need to have the training before you can go and do it in a real life situation. So I feel bad for Gary Johnson- Eight minutes to remember this. Oh yeah. What newspapers do your read and she froze. These are all... Somebody pointed out on one of them Right Wing talk shows on the radio That it appeared to them as if they because the CIA we know is working for on behalf of Hillary that they had done a deconstruction of Donald Trump to find his trigger points and Everything Hillary did there, but hot button. Did she gets throw this like that's what she do with the Machado thing Yeah You could throw these things in and he would freeze And he didn't it worked they worked and by the way for people who say well to you again? You just show this shit nobody's good at

47:13 We're not, we deconstruct. What would somebody be bitching at us for not? Because they feel that we should...that WE should be covering how great Johnson is! No. And we don't cover that it's media deconstruction. He's not that great he stoned I'll give my opinion and if you want to just hear opinions It's not an opinion show. I mean, we do have a lot of opinions true but that's not what the goal of the show is. Yeah i have an opinion. I think Johnson's a stoner and he's got to snap out of it. He's not showing well at all. Both these candidates...I feel bad about Jill Stein she's probably the smartest woman running for president. You know that she got arrested

47:53 And I knew this was going to happen. One of our producers told me that her plan was to get arrested protesting out front the debate. She got arrested last time, she got arrested in 2012 and I heard crickets nothing about that in the media nothing! No the media totally ignores both these candidates except for Democracy Now they did cover this well... I also like how... never mind yeah okay And this just takes us off the track. Yeah, I have one more Johnson is Gary Johnson so what? I've an Ultima good This is a Democratic States representative. I forget which state this was and I don't know her name doesn't really matter

48:34 But she is on stage riling up all the troops about Hillary. And of course, this is when you know she kind of looks a little bit like Hillary or at least, you know, she's trying to have the shorter hair and everything just I think are very typical Hillary supporter. Here's what she said. She gets keys to the White House. She will be fair in judgment if and we'll fight for human dignity. So let's get busy! 47th President of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton to be the 49th president of the United States of America. I don't know if you can hear that on Skype

49:33 Yeah, she said let's first. She says let's elect Hillary Clinton 47th president of the United States and then she says let's elect Hillary Clinton 49th president of the United States It would be the 45th I believe What an idiot States representative I might want to point out yeah This group is just the worst I mean here's a this is a it's called debate media gloating This is MSNBC who I put the ratings in the last newsletter of what network got how many people and MSNBC did pretty much the worst. They didn't count C-SPAN, it's not in the ratings that they don't do ratings on C-SPAN so we don't know how many people watched there but this was MSNBC take on this and then they make some prediction that

50:25 It just, gratuitous slams is unbelievable at these places and they just gratuitously slam Roger Ailes. And nothing, Roger Ailes has not shown up in anything but listen to their prediction All right, we're gonna rewrack that. While we're having a moment James Carville would like in. James critique the job you just heard Kellyanne Conway doing up against withering questioning from Chris Matthews. I thought i was back watching crossfire when i was on that. But look, she talked a lot and she has a difficult job. One point i wanted to make is so much of the Trump persona and so much what he talks about his winning and how he's a winner or everybody's loser and i think alot of his supporters like take pride in the fact that he such a winner And he was anything but that tonight

51:20 And I wonder what the effect of this is going to be on the enthusiasm of his supporters that he actually, and he got beat by Hillary Clinton who a lot of people think is evil incarnate or weak person. This is kind of a unique thing where somebody whose whole branding is built around being a winner and he can win for the country really did lost so bad tonight. Now, it's going to be curious to see how he carries that through but I agree with Hugh we have two more debates to come she's gotta take each one of these things deadly serious and Nicola

51:56 you tomorrow that Roger Ailes gets out that he didn't have very much to do with preparation. I just bet you it's a work from Rogers. I didn't have anything to do with this, don't pin this on me! I wouldn't be surprised myself if that made its way into the media conversation but... What are they talking about? No idea. Roger Ailes is gonna come out and say he had nothing to do with it because of why This is just these guys, they've never seen anything such a kind of bubble that they live in and they just obviously to this day even though he doesn't even work at Fox anymore. They hate Roger Ailes because for all practical purposes he kicked MSNBC's butt down the toilet nobody listens to The Network and it's all because of him so they hold such a grudge that they dream this sort of thing up? Wow! Yeah I guess

52:54 Yeah, anyway I just thought that was...I was amused. Now there was one funny little thing and we had and i think you know as you had uh Colbert's thing this Kimmel had this little bit I think he didn't get that involved because he's with ABC right? And the way we see it so he did just a yeah and you know Kimmel is in Hollywood He has to be a Hillary supporter yeah I'd be surprised if he wasn't but he doesn't do what Colbert does, which is just slam Trump constantly. This is what his little bit was taking doing the it's hard to hear because of the people laughing so loud but this is the drunk debate course of their 90 minute argument and went by very quickly so we decided to slow them both down for a special isn't first time ever done this or Fred special two candidate edition of Drunk Debate

53:51 I have a feeling by the end of this evening, I will be blamed for everything. Why not? Yeah! I will say the general consensus in my neighborhood was that Hillary had at least taken half a bar of Vesanix. I wouldn't be surprised Now Xanax does nothing for me, so I can't say one way or the other. She had this crazy smile on her face... In fact Nick who was watching this with me said the Joker smile He said it without any prompting and other people called it The Joker Smile because she looks like The Joker in that first Batman movie Get Low to Me With that big smile and you know just kind of a crazy smile. She looked nuts

54:49 I found her semi-condescending throughout the debate. Sure, all right i don't think i have much more...I mean there will be the second debate is coming and well we don't have to go on and on uh see what if i have anything that's well let me say yeah i do have a thing you can have an offset because again let's get back to the CIA aspect this was pre-debate Aaron Burnett was at the place and she was talking to one of the women that's on CNN all the time and In the process, she goes and has a little chit-chat with Brennan, head of the CIA. Oh he was just on hand? Just hanging out? She just casually saw him I guess... Hey! Hey Director! Can you want to sit down and talk? Hello Director CIA. Let's have a chat. So they had they had a little uh chit chat in it And my favorite part of this is when where Brennan says well You know

55:48 As part of the agency and this and that, we don't talk about politics. We don't get involved. However... But! Yes exactly. However let me say something it's very funny Do whatever he wanted right is the way any moderator should try to do and he successfully set the stage that way foreign policy is going to come up earlier today I actually sat down with a CIA director John Brennan And we talked about a whole lot of things about Hillary Clinton Donald Trump but one of them was Vladimir Putin And here's what he said, and I want to get your reaction on what you think this is going to play in the debate tonight. Here's the CIA director. Donald Trump has said plenty of positive things about Vladimir Putin again and again. Here are some... I think i'd get along very well with Vladimir Putin. Putin is a nicer person than I am. I like him because they call me a genius. If he says great things about me, I'm gonna say great things about him! What's your reaction when you hear that?

56:41 Well, as the director of CIA I don't involve myself in campaign politics. I will say though that when i look at Russia right now we know that Mr Putin has been very aggressive on the foreign policy front and also very aggressive in the cyber realm and we know that the Russians are very active in that area they have done some things over in the past years to try to affect certain elections in different countries So I think what we have to be very wary of what the Russians may be doing. I think we have to be very careful about Believing some things that they say publicly or disavowing any types of activities that they may be engaged in Russia is a an adversary and number of areas And as the CIA director, that's where do you use adversary? Well yes when I look at what's going on in Syria right now I am very very annoyed and frustrated The Russians have not been following through on their commitments

57:34 to apply pressure on the Syrian regime to stop its horrific bombing of innocent men, women and children in places like Aleppo. And Russia has said things publicly that I don't think they have followed through on privately So there are a lot of things about Russia that this administration and next administration need to focus on because they're not trying to pursue these objectives as a way to enhance U.S. national security interests What? So he called Russia an adversary. That's the word that he would use, certainly not a word Donald Trump has used and then he also in our conversation continued to say he did expect that wouldn't be surprised at all if something happened in October they'd be very relevant and perhaps impactful to this election. Hold on let me ask you question how about this for for a hypothesis

58:19 because we've seen, and I have a few clips later on of course there's a lot of crap going on with Russia right now. You know i have number of clips that are important but do you think maybe within the realm of feasibility that you have these agencies including state department and obviously CIA anyone else who in according to the Liener Report, lienerreport.com is pro-Hillary? Do you think they may actually be ratcheting up the Russia narrative specifically to mess with Trump? Do you think it goes that far? It could be. I think it's a possibility, as we spot, I think because Trump has shown no signs of... Trump is not going to if he got in he wouldn't be playing the game that needs to be played which makes Russia an adversary. Which sells weapons everywhere. Sells weapons and all the rest of it. And then we've got this now I've got a clip too coming up in the next part of the show uh that I think is extremely critical and I think you may have something similar um

59:21 And they, but it's yeah there is a possibility and the CIA would be the ones doing it. I was watching... I mean that goes very far. It kind of all started World War III to keep this guy out of office. It really kinda started, I mean the real ratcheting up started when Trump started boasting about Putin, thinking he was a fantastic guy. I think if you trace it back... There's two things in parallel the other one of course is Snowden. Obviously that out yeah that just the support to say these things snowed and now the rest of this clip does have one day that nasty little piece of propaganda they keep putting in there

1:00:08 And it was there's another clip that I didn't get. Let's they got another 45 seconds This is the bull crap about Russia being behind the DNC hack That'd be very relevant and perhaps impactful to this election in terms of leaks by parties who want to influence the outcome Well, we've already seen that. I mean we we boarded The administration has already said that they believe that the Russians are behind the tapping into the DNC emails etc. And so that doesn't surprise me, the fact that he says it is important because he is the CIA director and then I think this evening that'll be raised Hillary Clinton is going to raise Donald Trump's bromance with Vladimir Putin there's no doubt about it

1:00:52 Vladimir Putin has an 85% or 90 percent unpopularity rating in this country. So I think that's terra firma for her. Wait, we now have a poll for Putin's popularity? Putin's popularity poll! Who cares?! Hey how you doing hi i'm here guys want to ask you question actually it goes something like this... It goes like this Hello? Hi, hi! Is this John Charles Dvorak in Northern California? Yeah. Hi we have an important message for you We really want to help out with this year's election campaign is it okay if we ask a few questions? Okay alright if its fast What do you think about Vladimir Putin good guy bad guy or indifferent Who? Exactly

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1:10:25 You've got karma. And then we go on to Steve Fisher, who is in Missoula Montana and sent us a sent an email to me. Let me just take a quick look down the list. Steve Fishers, Sir Fish Knighthood Accounting. We got him down for the night when he's got the night. Oh it's OK backpacking. He's got the note separately Knights Book Report I was promised my 232 to round out my knighthood via PayPal, so let's get on with Sir Fish. We got that. Two of the... it says book report two of these are in the No Agenda Book Club but deserve re-mention one is not Family of Secrets he says should be required or yeah his book report Family of Secrets is a great book The Man Who Knew Too Much hired to kill Oswald and prevent the assassination of JFK It's just another JFK retelling

1:11:24 It says it was buried in the description of how 33 is used to alert other agents, spooks and fellow travelers. That's in this book. Which book? What's the title of the book? This Is The Man Who Knew Too Much Wasn't there a movie about that too? Maybe... This book details the connections between Oswaldus CIA owners of the schoolbook building and Zapruder who was assigned to be right there to film proof that he hit was successful We might as well just tell everybody right now Jackie Kennedy killed JFK. Well, there is a very interesting series that we want to talk about this on the show in more detail but there's not much to talk about it but if you look at some of the films you will see Jackie Kennedy bring her hand around and shoot him in the back of their head

1:12:14 Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And I'm not just not as that's not an exaggeration of the way it looks if you have that bias in mind It is exactly what it looks like. If you don't have a bias in mind You won't see it but if you do have a bias in mind then you'll see it And it explains a lot of the way things went, the way the bullet didn't go in the right way and all this rest of it. But we'll talk about that more. It's a funny thing...it showed up in the... You and I have talked about this after... We've talked about it a lot because you

1:12:50 Somebody pointed it out to me and I had some good examples, and he showed Adam. And he said yeah so Well you know me is like here's a video of Bigfoot He's real i'm like okay Yeah So what? It looks as though she Casually put had the little gun and shot him in the back of the head and then ditched the gun now in the car probably and I don't know. She had good reason to do this by the way. Heads are exploding everywhere, yes what was the good reason? Well apparently JFK is a douchebag screwing Marilyn Monroe amongst other women That's right you know when Elena... What's her name? Elena... The woman who cut off uh Elena Babbitt she cut off John Bobbitt's cock Yeah I mean penis i should say I'm getting complaints His penis and everyone's like oh she's great Good work! Right

1:13:43 Anyway, the assassination was one thing to cover up something else buried in the description of how 33 is used to alert other agent spooks and fellow travelers that The event operation is sanctioned. Mmm There you go You don't have that interpretation No for instance Oswald would include a small 33 in the bottom of the corner of his fair play for Cuba brochures Well, I'd like to see some evidence of that. Number three the third book is The Autobiography of Mark Twain is one he recommends. That's one I would read and sounds good And he has a bunch of... says it was dictated rather than him writing it so listen to it on tapes So he recommends that and then he says Sir Fish out Out! I'll give him a little bit of karma for that Thank you very much for the book report You've got Karma Yo yo

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1:19:33 and he addressed the very first veto of his that was overridden. Now, just you want to just explain to probably two people in United States as well how that works with a veto and exactly what has to go down? Yeah, you have to have two thirds of Congress. Both. Well hold on a little step back so you can have the House representatives in the Senate can say OK we passed this bill that's good it goes to the president's desk. And he doesn't like it and so he just says no, he won't sign it. That's called a veto. There are other ways you can do it. Some call it pocket veto where you put in the drawer and never address the issue and hope that it goes away but he vetoed because this was a bill to allow redress and its called terrorist something...you might have the name of the joint state sponsors terrorist bill

1:20:26 country that sponsors terrorism that the results in the death of someone, that country can be sued. And so both houses and I have a couple clips on it too Both houses said yes no problem and then the president said No! And course all the right-wingers go oh he's protecting Saudi Arabia and this...I don't know why he vetoed it Is he protecting Saudi Arabia? I don't know. Well, recall that part of the threat from Saudi Arabia was if you guys do that we're going to get rid of all our $750 billion worth of bonds Yeah they actually threatened that initially if we release the 28 pages

1:21:04 They didn't do anything after the 28 pages of the document that was the report on 9-11 attacks came out. There's 28 pages they kept away from the public, they released a 28 pages as you recall... And just so we know what the 28 pages that were omitted and classified and kept secret from the public of the 9-11 Commission Report very specifically said These guys were from Saudi Arabia, most of the terrorists. And they had definite connections to the Saudi Arabian government although you know it's through middleman etc so there's always and you can always say well you know they weren't directly involved

1:21:46 involved. It wasn't exactly that way, but... And so that report and the Saudis when they said if you release this because they knew what it was for some reason they already saw it I guess they got to see it but the public didn't American public didn't get to see but the Saudi's saw it said no you release this we're gonna take we're gonna sell all our bonds They released it. The Saudis didn't sell all their bonds that I think gave impetus for this these bills because it was like these guys are bluffers is they're not gonna sell the bonds, it's gonna hurt them or it's gonna hurt anyone and we'll really you know they really can't do that so just so to and by the way is Chuck Schumer big major Democrat who was really leading the charge on this bill and he says, hey tough luck we vetoed it because it's really important. Of course for his constituents is very important. So no wait they didn't veto it? The president vetoed it? The president vetoed and they overrode the veto yes And so they overrode the veto and you can do that by having a huge majority two-thirds of both houses say no

1:22:41 No, they re-vote on it and they get these big numbers. And they got huge numbers that only one person... In fact the Senate, it was everyone in the Senate voted for the veto except Harry Reid It's the only holdout. And I don't know why it was Harry Reid, on the other side he was like 18 Republican... He is a good soldier. Do you think that maybe part of the reason why we don't want to let's just say this isn't overridden so now people can sue and then very similar to Iran situation where there wasn't lawsuit? I don't know how that all was possible And, you know, people won portions of like a billion dollars that we had frozen of Iranian assets. And of course he gave the rest back with interest in cash and pallets of money and the debt of night but there was a lawsuit. And if this happens...and the president actually refers to this, you know, the last thing we want is we want subpoenas and paperwork and well maybe the last thing we want is to find out what actually happened

1:23:42 Maybe that's why we don't want this. That could be not nobody has explained it, there was a very good back and forth and I have most of it. Let's do that first before I get Obama's response in you. Okay well let's... This is kind of long too this is really important! I find this to be one of the most interesting things Let's go to PBS NewsHour because they were very into this and they decided to do a big deal about it. So let's start with veto, this is the first clip will be Veto 1. Now to the votes today on Capitol Hill to override for the first time the veto of a bill by President Obama. The issue permitting lawsuits against governments that support terrorist acts inside the United States one government in particular

1:24:29 The bill on reconsideration is passed. It was a rare show of unity, Senators voted 97 to 1 to override the president's veto with minority leader Harry Reid the lone holdout The bill permits families of 9-11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia over its alleged support of the 19 hijackers, most of whom were Saudis. How can anyone look at the families in the eye and tell them that they shouldn't have the opportunity to seek justice against a foreign government responsible for the death of their loved one? It's very simple if the Saudis were culpable they should be held accountable

1:25:10 If they had nothing to do with 9-11, they have nothing to fear. The attack left nearly 3,000 people dead and the Saudis have long rejected any claim they were involved their foreign minister spoke this past July after Congress released a long classified section of the official US government report on the 9-11 attacks. It wouldn't be that bad if we hadn't like, you know attacked Iraq first. You know it's like oh let's get into Iraq and then do a little bit of Afghanistan and then we went out there and just rubble-ized everything. Yeah Except Saudi Arabia That last guy was except Saudi Arabia Well...you never know Um..that guy was the spokeshole for Saudi Arabia Ah okay

1:26:16 That last guy. And he says, we didn't do anything. He said that there's some logic here we have to deal with and I think it's one of the things that we try to promote on the show which is where is the logic here? If everyone says they did Saudi Arabia had nothing to do with a day this guy says you know the CIA everybody says nothing nothing nothing We didn't do anything. Then what are you worried about so they're starting to make stuff up now hope that they get some Some more details on why we're so fearful of passing this little I think you might have beyond to something or it could be something else which

1:26:53 which is there's more information that could come out that they're afraid of coming. I do have a theory later, OK? We'll get to that. Let's go to the second part of this. This is where Judy decides to...I think she introduces some people to discuss this. The Saudis strongly oppose this lawsuit bill President Obama warned it could strain relations with Riyadh and spur retaliation against Americans elsewhere Again, where's the logic here? They said there is no connection. The Saudis have nothing to do with it! So how does this even make sense what they're saying?! The number one thing I've always heard is if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be worried about. Exactly! You don't understand the problem Saudi Arabia... With Riyadh and spur retaliation against Americans elsewhere in his veto message to Congress on Friday the president said

1:27:46 The bill does not enhance the safety of Americans from terrorist attacks and undermines core US interests. Defense Secretary Ash Carter also wrote to Congress predicting potentially devastating consequences for American troops abroad, but Supporters largely dismissed those fears and the house. I think my wrap-up with the president will make all of that clear join the Senate this afternoon overwhelmingly rejecting the president's veto President Obama called the vote a mistake and warned that it sets a dangerous precedent. We get two views now, Jack Quinn is a lawyer representing more than 2,000 families who were impacted by the attacks on 9-11 and who are suing Saudi Arabia he was also white... Wait wait wait! They're already suing Saudi Arabia? This guy? It's unclear yeah no he's already got this thing he's one of

1:28:41 promoters of the bill. Well, they think that any government with respect to which there's credible evidence of governmental involvement in a terrorist attack should be held accountable in the United States. That is all JASTA does. It says... I'm sorry, Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act

1:29:20 says quite simply that if a government, sovereign government aids and abets a terrorist attack inside the United States that causes death or injury in the United States then the courts of this country have jurisdiction over that government. I think if you ask most people in the street, should that be the law? They'd be shocked that it's not. And for a long time frankly it was. The administration which General McKay served with Bush administration went into court and said that the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act would allow suits for terrorist attacks United States like 9-11. Hmm... I found that to be interesting!

1:30:01 The Foreign Sovereignty Immunity Act. I wish i'd known that, I would have looked into that Yeah, I needed to look into it too but this guy on the other side of this debate who is an ex-Bushy according to the back and forth that goes on, starts to just lie about this. The whole thing and it's very distressing to listen to this guy because the guy says he is going to do this you're gonna do that and then other guys say no no no you can't That's not true! The judge should know better This guy is a judge now. And so the other guy comes on He comes right now in clip 3 Michael Mukasey It sounds like a reasonable request these families are making

1:30:41 Yes, it sounds reasonable. But if you look at it closely, it isn't. First of all I don't think anybody disputes that the families deserve not only sympathy but recompense and compensation to the extent that these losses can be compensated and they can't but this bill doesn't do it It doesn't do it for at least two reasons. Number one, there have been not one, not two, not three but at least four investigations by national security officials in the United States, by the CIA and FBI and then 9-11 commission that found directly concluded that there was no Saudi government involvement or involvement of high Saudi officials in 9-11

1:31:25 That has been investigated. You notice that little nugget there? No highly ranked government officials. Yeah, this guy calls him out on this. This is... yeah. That has been investigated and reinvestigated so there's simply no evidence there to show Saudi involvement. Jeff let me just stop you right here. Again! So what's the problem? Exactly. Saudi involvement. So why the fuss? Okay, go on. I mean you can ask me that for another hour No, I've been asked quite a few times. I just want to point out to people that they're making a fuss but it's like look we didn't do anything! Let me just stop you right there. It's also counterintuitive that there would be because Osama bin Laden when he was listing his reasons for 9-11 said that the presence of US troops in the Arabian Peninsula was a principal reason they were there at the invitation of the United States He was trying to overthrow the Saudi government

1:32:29 So what evidence... It's completely counterintuitive that they would participate. Jack, wait a minute! That makes nothing but sense If the Saudis were angry at the Yemens and of course we are now there killing them how can that make no sense? That they didn't want to get stuff riled up and have stuff like this happen Like Yemen We're in Yemen Mission accomplished Isn't that what they wanted Well, there's a number of just screwy things this guy says. And one of them is the idea that the Saudi government itself doesn't have elements within it which is

1:33:09 I think one of the basis for this lawsuit elements within the eye you can see the element so they don't wear that black little thing on their headdress. They would like to see the Saudi government fall, so the whole thing was a good was run by the Wahhabist clerics I mean, there's elements in that government for sure that want to go that way because the government has been encouraging this. But let's have a slight but the other guy gets him on this. Jack Quinn so what is the evidence that you're basing this on? Well, I want to start by saying what the judge just said is flatly untrue Those investigations concluded no such thing. In fact, the 9-11 Commission report itself in a very carefully constructed sentence that said although there was not evidence that it had not found evidence of official Saudi government involvement it conceded that it was likely that they were involved

1:34:05 in terms of people associated with the government and charities sponsored by the governments that had provided funds to the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda, that was behind the 9-11 attack. But why not sue those individuals or those charitable organizations rather than the government? They are sued but the government is responsible because we allege there were officials of the government that participated in the provision of those finances to the hijackers. The story is frankly quite shocking. That's actually in those 28 pages, that made very clear. Yes it was in those 28 pages. Shocking! And you know 9-11 commissioners former Senator Bob Kerry, former Congressman Tim Romer

1:34:55 Former Navy Secretary John Layman completely dispute what the judge just said about the import of the 9-11 Commission report. But look, whether I'm right or he's right The Congress has completely rejected this argument that the families should not have their day in court. It is now the law of the land, they will have their day in court and as Senator Schumer said if the Saudis are completely innocent of any responsibility here, they will do just fine Uh-huh. Yeah, nice. Nice. So this guy's in the I'm loving I'm loving this. You know what? Because it was 15 years after 9 love and finally we have some nice action going on. And I like it. Yeah well gets me is his character this other guy to judge who was a one of the attorney generals during the Bush administration. What is he protecting

1:35:52 I think, yeah. I think i know that too! Something's very very wrong with this guy but let's wrap this with the last clip Mr Mukasey what about that point? That if the Saudis...if there is no proof that the Saudi government or anyone associated with Saudi government was involved why not let this go forward A couple of reasons. First of all, as I don't know whether you know this or not but all a party has to do in order have a lawsuit go forward is make allegations claims in a complaint if that survives the motion to dismiss and crafty lawyers can

1:36:36 file a complaint that will survive the motion to dismiss. Then they get into what's called discovery, meaning they can riffle through the files in this case of the Saudi government, depose witnesses... There you go! ...of the Saudi government make them disclose national secrets. Bullshit! There is no sovereign government in the world that would ever participate in an exercise like that we certainly wouldn't and it's inconceivable that the Saudis would. So what you're gonna get is a situation where essentially they're blackmailed into writing a check. Other governments have indicated... That by the way, is the American way! There's nothing wrong with that. This guy has got to counter this. What he just said was bullcrap. The part about state secrets and all of that? Oh yeah, that's bullshit. Other governments have indicated

1:37:24 I was just going to say let Mr. Quinn respond to that because I want another question. That's entirely incorrect the judge should know this, that a foreign government has an immunity to protect its state secrets and sensitive classified information that is a fact And what he describes as being able to bring a lawsuit by making allegations and going to court. That's the American system of justice, and that's the system of justice has been denied for the 9-11 families The Congress has now overwhelmingly said these citizens deserve that justice Michael Mukasey you and others who oppose this are concerned about the precedent What is the dangerous precedent that you're concerned about?

1:38:07 There have been other countries, there have been parties in other countries who've tried to get at government officials and at soldiers in places as diverse as Belgium and Italy. Wow! Diverse? To get secretary... What, Belgium is the new Timbuktu? Is that what it is? very diverse. Like Belgium, Belgium! Government officials and at soldiers in places as diverse as Belgium and Italy there was an attempt to get Secretary Rumsfeld charged in Belgium There have been attempts to get US soldiers charged in Italy This is the sort of thing that sovereign immunity was meant to prevent We are the most present nation in the world we have more people in more countries

1:38:54 in the world than anybody else. More soldiers, more diplomats, more intelligence gatherers Every one of them is going to have a target on his back after this legislation because people have been trying to curtail our activities by going after those people and now they'll have a good excuse for doing it And the notion that somehow they would simply go after the US government is absurd. This isn't going to be tit for tat, it's going to be rat-a-tat-tat for tat and we're gonna be on a long end of that. Just quickly ten seconds response. If a driver from the Saudi embassy runs you over on your way home tonight you're allowed to sue that person. Why in heaven's name would American justice allow a lawsuit in that circumstance but not to the families of 3,000 murdered Americans? All right I think that's a very good setup for this little spiel the president threw out there yesterday during this town hall which I found to be unbelievably poor in thought he threw out things which

1:39:57 We could have other countries up in arms and well, I'd like to listen to this and dissect it with you. What this legislation did was it said if a private citizen believes that having been victimized by terrorism that another country didn't do enough to stop one of its citizens for example in engaging in terrorism. That is not what the legislation says! It's just an outright lie if they were somehow involved... What is going on with this? This is a big deal to him and it will continue. To stop one of its citizens for example so he's saying

1:40:41 Just let me review. Instead of the allegation, which is they were directly involved with financing at minimum he said if they didn't do their best to stop someone so that's he's reframing it right off the bat. To stop one of its citizens for example in engaging in terrorism then they can file a personal lawsuit a private lawsuit in court The problem with that Is that the We're doing disaster relief in the Philippines or some other, or Haiti. Oh yeah this is my favorite! We're in Haiti... I guess you don't want that lawsuit from Haiti about how all the money got stolen and people are still crapping from illness and cholera living in tents. And a traffic accident happens where tragically

1:41:50 a citizen of that country is killed. That would be Samantha Power who did that? If they pass the same kind of legislation we just passed, now potentially that family in that country could start suing the United States They might say We're going to take jurisdiction over that individual and concern I've had has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia per se or my sympathy for 9-11 families it has to do with me not wanting a situation in which We're suddenly exposed to liabilities for all the work that we're doing all around the world. Oh, you mean like killing brown people who live in sandy areas? With the unfortunate... This bill specifically refers to state-sponsored terrorism And that will come up

1:42:39 And suddenly finding ourselves subject to the private lawsuits in courts where we don't even know exactly whether they're on the up and up in some cases. Now let's throw out the dumbest example we can think of I am concerned, and this is not just my concern General Dunford Chairman of the Joint Chiefs said this was a bad idea Secretary of Defense said it was a bad idea And then when found out that some people who voted for it Said frankly we didn't know what was in it Oh, just like the Affordable Care Act. I thought it was just something cool! I wasn't paying attention. There was no debate of it? No debate. And it was basically a political vote. I understand that but... A political vote?! It was passed unanimously

1:43:25 How can it be political if both parties want it? That's odd. You know, my job as commander in chief is to make sure that we're looking ahead at how this is going to impact our overall mission because what this also means is... Here wait for this! This is my favorite. Hello! Hello United States of Gitmo Nation East. Hello United Kingdoms. This also means is this time in Saudi Arabia but let's say that there's a terrorist who comes here from Great Britain Our closest ally, we do all kinds of work with them to prevent terrorism. But they've got some people like the radicals who are living in our country." I mean did he just say that? Did he just say, hey Britain's got radicals living here? Does he realize this is about state-sponsored... Yeah if the UK was state sponsoring terrorism yes! He has an answer for that but I'm just saying Theresa May should come out and say hey

1:44:21 Use someone else as an example, okay? Radicals. That was an insult I agree with you. I mean that's our closest ally our special relationship. No he just... It's alright- I don't think they're uh this guy is okay Yeah it's not that much longer we're almost done but yeah he does answer the state sponsored thing We do all kinds of work with them to prevent terrorism But they've got some people like they are radicals who are living in our country Who may be British citizens They come here and carry out something Now under this legislation Somebody who had been harmed by that terrorist could sue the British government and start asking for all kinds of documents and sending in a bunch of trial lawyers. Oh, yeah see we don't want that! And that's mainly because he doesn't want to be part of any discovery or drone attacks or anything that happens No one wants this. By the way last point I'd make if we know that a country was helping a terrorist then we call them a state sponsor of terrorism

1:45:23 And they don't have immunity. You consume anyway But that's a judgment that we make based on the intelligence that we have, based on our military assessment. In this situation, we did not make such an assessment." In this situation... in THIS situation We did NOT make an assesment that they're state-sponsored terrorism So if we don't call them that then they aren't THAT! "...make based on the intelligence that we have, based on our military assessment..." "...in this situation, we DID NOT make such an assessment..." "...that Saudi Arabia was a state sponsor of terrorism." This is taking that out of our military and our intelligence in the hands of our national security professionals, and putting it into the courts. And that's a mistake." It's a mistake! That's right because we didn't call them state sponsors of terrorism so you... this is bullcrap You can do it they're not state sponsor terrorism This is the damnedest thing I've witnessed for awhile That was very odd So what he's saying

1:46:26 They don't want to lose control of who's the bad guys and who is the good guys. And we get to say that these are going to be good guys, and nobody can sue them because they're for the moment... They're not state sponsors of terrorism even though they might be. Hey let me ask you a different question. This paranoia on his part is very disconcerting So here's what I would do if I was Hayden We're going to have a problem in the bond market and I believe that is because of Deutsche Bank. You remember when the former New York banker said we won? the American banks won over the European banks. I think this is what he's referring to and Angela Merkel came out and said, Oh you know if Deutsche Bank goes belly up we're not helping them, we're not bailing them out. That was a lie by the way. That was not helpful that's not helpful so what if the bond market starts to go wacky? And we talked about this the other day and you said the bond market really is one of the core pillars of our financial system What if it starts to go wacky

1:47:29 You could always make the case, well this of course is because Saudi Arabia and you guys got to stop that. And it's hurting the financial system even though you could trace it back to where it's coming from that may be an angle to play. Well I don't see what the point of it would be at his juncture in his... Well, how about the fact that... By the way I think it's a good idea. And I think you could blame the Saudis if they did dump a few bonds and the bond market is going to crash. I don't think there is a person who works in stock market professionally that won't say that same exact thing to you It seems very simple to me

1:48:06 We know the Clinton Global Initiative had its last meeting because all the sponsors are pulling out and where are they going? They're going to President Obama with his My Brother's Keeper. It's gonna be the new Clinton Foundation I'm sure the Saudis want to be a part of that They're not just gonna say, oh well that was a good run we had with the Clintons. It's all over! No! We've seen President Obama hanging out with the Saudis. We've seen him bowing to the Saudis if you remember that too much. So maybe he really is... it's all about him and he just wants to get the Saudi money for his foundation? Could be that too

1:48:43 I see no reason. Oh, you know this is if you want to take it to another level this would be the reason that him and his crazy wife are stumping for Hillary because if Hillary becomes president that's the end of The Clinton Foundation as we know it And that would be perfect for The Obama My Brother's Keeper Foundation Yeah That would be good? That would be good for him So they gotta get Clinton to win. So they're out there, because they're saying stuff because everyone... People are playing these old clips of Hillary slamming, butt-slamming Obama.

1:49:23 During the 2008 campaign and you know, and then blaming her for a lot of stuff. You know, the pictures of him in the dish dash and all these other things right? Right, right. And but there we have to ignore that because what we do now is we have to get her in as president because that just benefits our foundation. We know how they operate at. He's staying in D.C.. Not moving to Chicago. No, no. It's going to run his foundations. Going to be it's going to be huge. It's gonna be next Bill Clinton so far. Only he'll be better. Much better. He's also Muslim, so there you have it! And we're there ladies and gentlemen

1:50:02 This is a very interesting piece of audio as we're I'm just pivoting a little bit towards Russia and Syria, as we have lots of problems going on. This of course is a report from RT which you know they actually have a report which references a report from German reporter who sat down with one of the commanders of Al-Nusra. Now yes, I have the same clip now al Nusra Al-Nusra, they are the bad guys. They are the army of consequence...of conquest I'm sorry. The army of consequence! Hey we should start our own army yeah with the Army of Consequence Yeah the Army of Consequence and well it was very interesting what he had to say remember these are the guys that that we're against if everyone's cool except al-nusra

1:51:01 Everybody's good, but we don't like al-Nusra and of course al-Nusra really are the bad guys. And here we go. Here we go. Hello? Jihadists fighting in Syria are dissatisfied with the alleged military assistance being provided to them by America and are demanding a greater supply of advanced US weaponry That's according to a commander from the Al Nusra Front terror group speaking in an interview with a German journalist Yes, the U.S. supports the opposition but not directly they support the countries that back us however we are still not satisfied with this support They should support us with advanced weapons We were winning the fights thanks to TOW missiles With these we gained parity with the regime

1:51:46 We received tanks from Libya via Turkey and multiple rocket launching systems too. The regime's only advantage is tactical aircraft, rockets and rocket launchers."We captured some of the rocket launchers and received a lot from abroad. Thanks to the TOW missiles we are able to keep this situation under control in many areas". According to the al-Nusra commander, the jihadists don't recognize a ceasefire in Syria and use it to regroup. He also told The German Journalist that U.S. instructors have been teaching radicals how to use new equipment. We got the missiles directly. They were delivered to a certain group. When the road was closed and was encircled we had officers from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the US here

1:52:31 Doing what? They were experts. Experts on how to use satellites, missiles, reconnaissance operations and thermal observation cameras Also American advisors Yes they were experts from many countries also American? yes There you go Now, he's just some dude in the desert. But still we are clearly helping these guys out and we're helping them train. I like to contrast that with it you know they do these reports over and over on RT. That's why i prefaced its RT Russia Today of course. And so here is another version of the same report that may be a little more...I think they punched it up a little bit

1:53:10 Meanwhile, the media has found out that the Gulf states might soon openly provide the Syrian rebels with high-tech weapons to turn the tide against Assad. Wait a minute... Gulf States meaning Saudi Arabia? No no just states should be Oman Qatar, Alrain Dubai United Arab Emirates.

1:53:48 Now the policy of arming so-called moderate rebels has been blamed for delivering weapons straight into the hands of terrorists. And a German journalist spoke to an al Nusra terrorist commander who receives weapons he says that his forces receive heavy weapons from America supported countries The journalist also found out that Al Nusra terrorists are trained by foreign military experts American experts I should say coming in from Langley. We had a word. Langley? I have said for years because i knew it and everybody knows that in Syria, that one kilometer behind the borders these weapons were taken by terrorist groups, by Al-Qaeda, by the Islamic State this is well known

1:54:36 And if I deliver weapons to a moderate, so-called moderate group in Syria everybody knows that at the end the weapons will be in the hands of terrorists. And this commander told it too that sometimes some radical rebels just say to get weapons, oh now I'm murdered. I am a member of the Free Syrian Army! They even changed the name of their group to Get The Weapons This is a game that everybody knows The Americans know that their weapons will at the end be in the hands of terrorists and they know that

1:55:14 You know what I couldn't wait clearly, but I couldn't find out is who this German guy works for What what outfit does he work? Is he just an independent guy you I don't know. I'm feeling it's just that either but the second part of this which is a weapons in Syria Part two and one thing that is really interesting, and I will say this after we play this part I think there's something that RT wants to say But they refuse they just don't have the guts to say it Which I'll say after this point and this in this one involves an extension of the report with our friend Gaia guy in oh Chachacha Chichikan? Chichikan, Chichikan. That's right everybody she is from Algeria but... No wait she is from Algeria? She works for Russia today and she hot! What?! I think she is Armenian. Armenian that what I meant to say yeah she is Armenian. RT's Gaini Chichikan asked the State Department if the US is ready to prevent its allies from shipping weapons directly to Syria

1:56:12 Well, a Reuters article cites U.S. officials who believe that Gulf states may soon begin to arm Syrian rebels with anti-aircraft weapons so called manpads one US official was quoted as saying the Saudis have always thought that the way to get the Russians to back off is what worked in Afghanistan 30 years ago negating their air power by giving man paths to the Mujahideen and The Mujahideen of Afghanistan later, of course, turned into enemies of the United States and used their weapons in training against Americans. With that my question at the State Department. About two weeks ago U.S.-backed rebels drove US special forces out of the town of Al Rai shouting infidels, crusaders dogs, pigs at them—their words

1:56:58 In light of the fact that some rebels are quite openly anti-American, are you worried that these manpads could one day be used to shoot down US planes? So first of all I'm not going to confirm what anonymous U.S officials may or may not have said we cannot dictate what other countries, and I'm not naming names but may or may not decide to do in terms of supporting certain groups within Syria. So you're going to try stop them from providing the rebels with manpads? With anti-aircraft weapons? I am not saying that at all Does the administration do anything to stop its allies from providing these powerful weapons to rebels in Syria What were engaged with our allies and frankly

1:57:41 the members of the ISSG, which is as we know not necessarily all like minded governments or nations. But they all share purportedly a common vision for the outcome that they want to see in Syria." Yeah, we want the pipeline from Qatar up to Turkey and that's the outcome we want So what's happening with these shoulder-fired anti aircraft missiles This is, we cannot come up with a way to keep the Russians out of this deal. We cannot actually send this type of weapon over there ourselves because then it would be traced back to us so we send these weapons over through the Arab Emirates and these other little countries that want to help they just want to help. Just helping

1:58:37 And so they send the weapons, these anti-aircraft weapons in through the back door. The weapons eventually as was reported at the beginning of the report these weapons eventually go to the terrorists because that's where everything ends up were supplying the terrorists and it's course much of the army of consequence The army, and much of this has to do with us actually maybe being in control of ISIS and the rest of them. They end up stealing the weapons from the good guys that are bullcrap... I hate it when that happens! Now they've got these little anti-aircraft missiles And they just start shooting down Russian planes That we can't do We love to have a no fly zone Hillary talks about a no fly zone We want to keep the Russians out of the way because They're messing up our scheme Yeah So let's shoot em

1:59:23 down but oh we didn't do it, we have nothing to do with it. I think the overall point that I like is...it's always stuff we made. No matter how it got there, its always stuff we made so we ultimately win and that follows into the next clip but first- We just don't want to get blamed for shooting down these Russian SUs and these other planes that are flying around because they're, you know, they're bombing these guys and they take out a couple of them. And this is going to happen probably in the next month or two Russian planes gonna get shot out of the sky than another one and then Russians are gonna get bent out of shape and we're gonna go... We had nothing to do with it just those horrible rebels! They stole our stuff and trained on it somehow magically and they know how to shoot down planes! And we didn't even send that stuff over there was sent by these other guys. Yeah bad

2:00:19 This came this also came from the state. Does anyone not see through this bullcrap? Well, it's worse because here is exactly what was said about what is going to happen to the Russians because of course its all the Russian fault. Extremist groups will continue to exploit the vacuums that are there in Syria to expand their operations which will include no question attacks against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities. And Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags." Nice! That to me was an act of war by saying that. What a douchebag is that? Was that Kirby or the other guy? It was Kirby. Total douchebag. This brings us to remember it's our weapons but we didn't give it to them

2:01:17 They're just these little side ones. So we're not really responsible." We can't tell the Omanis what to do, however when you look at the MH17 yet another interim report this is my wheelhouse yes another interim report came out from the Dutch Joint Investigation Team led by the Netherlands and again not a final report just an interim report which pretty much just repeats what the previous interim report said. How long does this take? And how long is this taking when did this well so here's 15 months, here's what they've done 15. So now okay here's where we have proof we have proof where what it was where it came from and whose weapon it was

2:02:04 Here's Fox News with the typical US rundown. Well, this report is just confirming what so many people suspected that this was a Russian made Buk missile system and it was fired from inside Russian backed Eastern Ukraine now This followed 15 months of meticulous and painstaking analysis around the crash site Which included photographic evidence from Bellingcat, the blogger. As Dutch authorities collected thousands of pieces of fragments over an area hundreds of miles wide... I got a couple of photos from our military intelligence assets and they say look at the shrapnel it's from the inside out

2:02:46 is that's not how a, you know, a book apparently explodes right at the right moment and then the shrapnel is what brings everything down. But you see this it's in the show notes You see this picture and the shrapnel was heading outward not inward I don't know anything about weapons but I'm just saying using these pieces they reconstructed the forward part of the aircraft using detailed analysis as well as audio recordings from the pilots headsets and satellite imagery they were able to confirm the type of weapon used and where it was fired from here's what the lead investigator told the media all representatives from the states participating in the investigation this is nice because we have a Dutch man who has an S problem endorsed conclusion that the crash was caused by

2:03:28 detonation of a warhead in close proximity to the airplane. The point is this specific kind of Russian missile doesn't hit the aircraft, it detonates just next to it and shrapnel from this kind of weapon was found in the bodies of the pilots The report, however doesn't seek to apportion blame but other evidence has pointed towards Russia as the culprit. Not least the fact that the missile was fired from an area controlled by pro-Russian groups and one of these systems was photographed in the area at the time Of course, Russia denies all of this but an ongoing criminal investigation is underway to determine who was responsible. So this is what they came up with? They came up with it was definitely a book and they did that based on simulations and fragments removed from the pilots bodies apparently It was definitely a Russian weapon system which of course All weapons in Ukraine until we started coming in were all Russian

2:04:24 And it was fired from, not from Russia but from Russian, you know, from the separatist area which we know of course are pro-Russian. So it's no different from saying we're not responsible for what the terrorists do with our weapons but when it comes to Russia... We're pretty sure you're responsible. Here's RT's take. Moscow has denounced as biased... I'm sorry, this is Euro news which is even better actually. Moscow has denounced as biased an investigation into the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 The Russian Foreign Office issued a statement saying it's disappointed by the fact that the situation with the Boeing crash investigation hasn't changed, and adding that the conclusions of the Dutch prosecutor's office confirmed that the inquiry was biased and politically motivated.

2:05:14 Almaz Ante, the Russian state-owned anti-aircraft missile manufacturer which made the buck used to shoot down the plane said that findings presented by the Dutch team were based on a simulation of the crash not reality. During today's presentation real technical evidence was almost absent as spokesman claimed Certain questions were not touched upon and we at Almaz-Antey believe this isn't right. Dutch investigators, however say the evidence that a Russian made missile launched from Ukrainian village held by pro-Russian rebels is strong and their conclusion is unlikely to change."

2:05:55 Russia. They haven't released a final report. Russia, Russia, Russia! They're never going to release the final report there will be no final report. The guys set up did a report on it and said that they have these apparently the shrapnel from these missiles and stuff I guess is in their mini dog biscuits shaped. Oh really? And there was no evidence of any of these holes looking like the common holes that you get from this thing. So, there's that... Now the guy who says that stuff is coming out he says the book will- The little dog biscuit thing should go in to fuselage and then come out the other side so stuff coming out is not proof much but they have an argument to be made They said they couldn't find

2:06:44 the evidence of this particular type of part, this dog biscuit shaped item was not apparent anywhere. But the overall point I'm making remains. Yeah, well the point is fine it's the point is what it is as the Russians are bad actors. But I'll tell you the Dutch are unhappy not the government and Dutch citizens like this is bullcrap again another interim report saying the same thing how long does it take they won't release a radar tracking because they cannot implicate Russia because The Netherlands does huge business with Russia They will never do it

2:07:19 They store their oil, they store the gas. They have all the businesses... That's a political element but what about the element that maybe Russia didn't do it? Well, now you're just talking crazy. Now you're just talking crazy talk John! We all know... It's like if you had the theory about the planes and radar being turned on You had a very elaborate thesis about this being shot down by a Ukrainian jet I can summarize that around the same period there were all kinds of GPS and transponder hacking going on There was a part- it was a confirmed part of a NATO war exercise

2:07:55 And they were actually changing signatures of aircraft, changing their transponder codes. All kinds of things were happening and the the my theory, which I'd have to go back and look at all my notes to give it to you perfectly is they did have a Ukrainian jet which did actually have the possibility to go up to this particular ceiling height and shoot the plane down. Although that is specifically refuted in this interim report not with evidence but with hearsay As in, well we looked at the radar images and there was nothing to see. Can we see the radar images? No you can't see that please shut up slave Shut up Shut up slave Alright now we have a report on this I think were done with that By the way i was listening to the C-SPAN one minute reports

2:08:57 that they do, they let the Congress guys come up for one minute. They always go over because I recorded a couple of these and they're always at 120 sometimes. It's interesting you did...I've recorded one too that's interesting you did that Okay well maybe record the same when I did but here's the one i recorded okay uh well actually I didn't record two I got this I got the one from Schaffetz which I wrote to them I called their offices to get some clarification on this and then I sent an email Media guy was supposed to get back. And how do you can I ask you a question? So, when you write the email and say hi, I'm John C. Dvorak from The No Agenda Show... Kind of! Does that work?

2:09:37 Well, you gotta say something. Did you get a response? No! So they host my podcast... I've never had any trouble with any of the senators They all have good staffs that do respond even though they always seem like they don't have enough people there But these guys are just a bunch of douchebags which makes me think that Chavez is one too but let's play this is Chavez he don't even have to play it He just calls for us. I guess we're gonna indict It calls for an indictment of contempt of Congress for that, for their dude named Ben. Ah! That they gave immunity? That one? Yeah. For what purpose does a gentleman from Utah seek recognition? Mr Speaker by the direction of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform I submit a privileged report The clerk will report the title

2:10:22 Report to a company resolution recommending that the House of Representatives find Brian Pagliano in contempt of Congress for refusal to comply with a subpoena duly issued by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Referred to the House calendar and ordered printed." That's, uh... The Stone Tear guy? Is that who he was talking about? Yeah, Stoned Here! Stoned- Stone Tear. Stone Tear yeah That's what it says. I know it's stone tear, S-T-O-N-E tear but when you say it, its stoned here! Now and another headache for Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and again over her email server new allegations suggest Clintons former IT specialist asked for advice in an online forum on deleting a VIPs address from emails RT's Caleb Maupin took a closer look

2:11:12 If you hit a glitch with your computer, most of us know you just Google the answer. If you're still stuck, check out the advice on web forums. Well it looks like one of Clinton's staffers was caught doing just that hoping to doctor Hillary Clinton's emails on Benghazi and he has been called out on it Mr. Combetta, do you intend to make an opening statement? On advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer and assert my Fifth Amendment privilege That's Paul Combetta, computer expert and former member of Hillary Clinton staff It is claimed he uses the online moniker Stone Tear Oh that was a different guy It's a different guy. That's not Pagliano? No, I think he just pronounced his name differently. No, it's the guy Cotton is a different guy. Oh wait so go back... might be a different guy Yeah well yeah i think he also received immunity. That's Paul Combetti computer- oh yeah Combetti you're right different guy expert and former member of Hillary Clinton's staff He's Stone Tear I don't know who that other guy is okay It's claimed he uses the online moniker stone tear and on the reddit internet forum someone called Stone Tear wrote Stone Tear

2:12:17 I may be facing a very interesting situation where i need to strip out of VIP's email address for a bunch of archived email. Basically they don't want the VIP's e-mail address exposed anyone does anyone have any experience with something like this and or suggestions on how this might be accomplished? So is this very VIP being referred to the Democratic presidential candidate but then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton? Did you wipe his shirt? What, like with a cloth or something? Well no. I don't know how it works digitally at all Things don't look so good for Paul His registered email address was stonetear at gmail.com On the e-commerce site Etsy, user StoneTear contains the name Paul Combetta And those Reddit posts are traced back to Rhode Island where Paul was living at that time I respectfully decline to answer and assert my Fifth Amendment privilege

2:13:11 Congress wants answers and if Paul doesn't agree to talk to the committee he could get a subpoena. Congress is also asking Reddit to hand over all the posts from the mysterious Stone Tear. Alright, yeah I read those. Okay so does she have something to say about that? I do have one clip that I picked up off of The One Minutes which is the WWTF, which should be W-T-F clip. This was a representative from California and he was allowed to talk for one minute and if you can stomach listening to the whole thing... You don't have to but do you want to stomach listen to the whole thing? This is the one minute he provided. For what purpose does gentleman from California seek recognition? Without objection, the gentleman has recognized for 1 minute

2:14:01 North Charleston, South Carolina June 29th 2013 Maurice Lamarck Horry 41 years old Carlos Davis 39 Theodore Waymeyers Jr. 36 Waco Texas May 17 2015 Jesus Delgado Rodriguez 65 years old Richard Vincent Kirschner 47 Charles Wayne Russell 46 Danielle Raymond Boyet 44 Wayne Lee Campbell 43 what the hell is this are these birthdays? Are these birthdays not that I know of why is he giving birthday so somebody in Waco, Texas He's from California. So we do we need to listen to find out will there be a big reveal no Near the end and play near the end Okay, this is very strange John one Jackson Edens 28 years old

2:14:57 New Orleans, Louisiana August 10th 2014 Terrence McBride 33 Jasmine Anderson 16 For what purpose is a gentleman from Michigan seek recognition? What was that gun deaths he doesn't say That's very rattles off. A bunch of names. That's very strange I think it's birthday and death. I mean sounds like birthdays Oh Whatever, it just starts saying names dates of birth and years old from all over the country then he ends with the same thing. It doesn't say a thing about it! I got one minute... How can this woman still be in Congress? Sheila Jackson Lee didn't we vote her out?!

2:15:49 Texas, Texas. What are you doing? Texas? This woman is a moron! Please listen to her minute. It's important as this Congress begins to deal with the confusion of the continued resolution that it be noted that we have not addressed the question of gun violence ending gun violence closing the loophole That is so important in a background check that allows people to get guns because they get it without the background check being completed. And here we go! Or in the issue of terrorism, that those who are on the terror watch list have random access to buying guns. Let's hear it. Simple legislation that could be passed I think it is crucial In America that we do so Because The violence has many roots Housing Health care Poverty

2:16:40 But certainly, it has the tool. And that is guns. That is automatic weapons like AK-47's and others more sophisticated America has a right to the second amendment but the people of America have a right to safety and the prevention of gun violence in their community Automatic weapons I'm so tired of these A-holes Semi-automatic Automatic weapons are banned And now the AK-47, the one we buy here is automatic? No it's pretty much semi-automatic. Of course there are the ones that are switchable but how does this woman do this?! It's just wrong! She just goes off on anything she's crazy We need to vote her out I don't know what's going on

2:17:31 It's crazy. Great, fantastic campaigner I have no idea what... Well after our break we'll talk about what she mentioned at the top there which is you know a couple things happened we have a continuing resolution which enables the government to continue until December 9th so we put that in and lot of things happen with that which i want to talk about The number one thing though I looked at that whole document And it's only about salaries of the government, except for the amendments. Do you know how much Congress and Senate receive for salaries for themselves and their staff in their offices? I know they get quite a bit On an annual basis

2:18:11 Just to get, no I know it's because of the state because somehow they worked in the staff. Yeah it's quite a bit It's 1.2 billion dollars That's for all of Congress And the Senate and the senate that's a lot of money John yeah 1.2 billion dollars yeah and that's what this whole thing is about their salary its the budget for their salary should say Yeah, that would be what they want. That's the most important thing to them Whatever happened to you know... You just come in from your city do your thing for your state and go back home This is careerism to the max A billion dollars Hey! We could use some of that I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah, that'd be fab On NO AGENDA

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2:19:52 Dio Sarin, Dio Sarin. Oh hold on this is a birthday doesn't seem to be on the list. Happy Birthday belated birthday to me and fellow Virgo Adam Okay so it's Hylia Deo Saran and Hylia's birthday is... See 36 on Labor Day okay they're in 36 alright got it! Okay Anastasia Paroff in Mississauga Ontario $100 I got a little note here. Oh, he needs to know what to do. You have to keep track of these things. Move on man! No notes we gotta go. Brian Mickey in San Francisco California $100 Anonymous in Ontario Oregon is that right? That's what it says yeah. James Camillo Camlo Eastlake Ohio Sergeant Cal

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2:21:37 San Jacinto. Yes, it's California you should know this I know these names Kevin and then that's 8009 mean well the boob donations come in with Kevin Booth in San Diego California cut the boob yeah he's got a call out for his friend Howard Gray in the mouth a few times over the year but he didn't but meanwhile of course Okay, there's something screwy about this because he wants to call out Eddie. He wants to call out Eddie S who just donated 80-09 so we can't do the callout Can't do a douchebag if you just donated. Yeah, he beat ya to it. Kevin? That's right. He was above you on the list that's why he did 8-0-9 until he would be first on the list. Genius! Fighting amongst each other on the donation segment beautiful Sam Leung and Sir Sam

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2:25:37 David Oliver in Calistoga, California. He's got a note there Joshua Willis in San Francisco Robert Hausner in Marmora Ontario Sir Mike Dukak in Chandler Arizona Sir Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario. I like this a lot of Canadians Marcus Mueller i'm guessing in Deutschland because it's got characters again Derek Neese in Alpharetta Georgia Ross Turpin and Troy Kansas sir Peter Totes and I thought he was in England but says US Gerald Sir Gerald Abonnet in Union South Carolina David Clark in Spartanburg South Carolina Alex

2:26:24 Bill Maher. Bill Meier. Bill Meier, and he's in Deutschland. Tirol, Deutschland! Joseph playing Joseph in Coeur d'Alene Idaho Anthony Clements in Trim That's Ireland, yeah Steve Chipman in San Rafael California just playing Glenn parts unknown David Middlebrook parts unknown Ben Durrell in Malta And that concludes our group of well-wishers. Yes, a good group it is I'd say! A lot of 50s today sometimes we don't have... We got like a slew of them and thank them profusely yes

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2:30:48 It involves your Fourth Amendment rights if you're in the United States of America. And I looked around, and I could only find one news report on this and it was from Fox News. We'll play that and then we can just...if you want to walk through a little bit of this Supreme Court ruling which is something I don't think we've ever discussed a Supreme Court ruling on the show Certainly not one we hadn't heard of. This is Supreme Court ruling number 1219. The Supreme Court has quietly approved new rules that could give access to all your digital information Fox News chief legal correspondent Shannon Bream is here to explain good evening, Shannon Good to see you Brett Well the Justice Department could soon have these sweeping new powers to hack into the phone

2:31:30 and computers of millions of Americans. As Britt said, even if they're not accused of doing anything wrong that is unless Congress puts a stop to it the power stems from a federal rule change that the administration has been pushing for over the last couple of years and one that's now been approved by the US Supreme Court so without ever hearing a case or controversy on the topic The nation's highest court has given Justice Department prosecutors the ability to go to any single Federal Magistrate and get a warrant that could allow the government to break into secure systems, search copy and transmit private files. And do this anywhere in the world? The administration says it's a necessary change because of the ability of suspects to anonymize their locations will Oregon Democrats Senator Ron Wyden says the plan would give the FBI authority to secretly probe into hundreds

2:32:18 thousands of computers that belong to innocent third parties and even crime victims. Speaking out against the move, Google said this quote, it invariably expands the scope of law enforcement searches weakens the fourth amendments particularity and notice requirements and opens the door to potentially unreasonable searches and seizures only Congress can put the brakes on the plan but lawmakers Speaker would have to act swiftly in the midst of an election year and potentially into a lame duck session. The rule changes go into effect December 1st if Congress doesn't put a stop to them, and there is bipartisan pushback from a growing coalition of senators, Democrats

2:32:54 Patrick Leahy and Republican Mike Lee, they're leading the charge. They've officially asked Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Chuck Grassley to hold a hearing. Brits no word tonight on whether Grassley plans to do so. Lee's office says they're still waiting to hear back in the meantime Wyden says he is going to introduce legislation and try to get it done before that deadline now I'm a little surprised to hear that Supreme Court just kind of did this Now you mentioned there was no case file right? So what is this peril the Supreme Court was exercising but

2:33:30 so all these recommendations then bubble to the Supreme Court which has now approved these amendments, only Congress can stop it. So this is a power that the court has always had and we just don't hear about it very much? Right! It's something that's done very quietly and that's why these senators are getting together to sound the alarm because they say it'll be over before anybody has a chance to object. This is kind of our speciality here on the best podcast in the universe. I'd like to read a few of these, few sections from this Supreme Court ruling which are supposed to only change procedure not change anything else and this is from the

2:34:07 Amendment Rule, the Supreme Court has proposed an amendment to rule 41. This is the search and seizure rule. A magistrate judge with authority in any district where activities related to a crime may have occurred has authority to issue or warrant to use remote access... ...to search electronic media and to seize or copy electronically stored information located within or outside that district if The district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means. That could be Tor, you're using Tor while you're hiding it... Or in an investigation of violation the media are protected computers that have been damaged without authorization and are located in five or more districts This would happen if you are part of a botnet

2:34:55 accidentally. Then you'll have more than five locations, it's on your computer so the Supreme Court is now saying that's when a warrant can be written by any magistrate in any district! Furthermore for a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and seize or copy electronically stored information The officer must make reasonable efforts to serve a copy of the warrant on the persons whose property was searched or whose information was seized or copied. Service may be accomplished by any means, including electronic means reasonably calculated to reach that person." I guess you can tweet him. Hey at Adam Curry we're looking at your stuff! I find this very troubling.

2:35:39 Well, we know that they're doing this anyway. At least the NSA is but they're not necessarily just downloading everything you've got what is the point of well they can I mean We know the FBI has always liked this kind of thing because oh god we have to go through a rigmarole. We don't want to do that. Um... Well listen This is a little subsection here A warrant to use remote access as allowed within or outside The district in investigation of a violation of blah blah code if the media to be searched are protected computers that have been damaged without authorization. So if the computer's been damaged... ZAPTNED! Yeah, good question and they are located in many districts criminal activity such as the creation and control of botnets it says right here may target multiple computers in several districts investigations of this nature the amendment would eliminate the burden of attempting to secure multiple warrants in numerous districts and allow a single judge to oversee the investigation.

2:36:34 So this could be just anti-spam. They're doing us all a favor as used in this rule the terms protected computer and damage have meaning Oh, I should have looked that up in 18 USC God should look that up for you Which I'll do but I find this very troubling Hmm is Supreme Court they can just I guess they can do whatever they want Pretty much yeah This doesn't seem like something Anybody on the Supreme Court? You know that I think there's an issue here That is been under discussed, which is the actual knowledge base of today's judiciary area. Especially any judge at any given place and I would say the Supreme Court really must suffer from this. Do they even know anything about these computers? How they work or... Probably not! I would think not. No

2:37:32 No, they just hear oh this is good if we have a botnet then we should go in and be able to scan through everyone's computer and get whatever we want. Yeah by and by tweeting them saying hey we're doing this yeah not a written no it could just be email amen another couple things that just reminds people a couple things keep the piece of tape on the camera shut your machine down at night Yeah. Encrypt a hard disk, I don't know if that really would... Well that could be deemed damaged. Oh it's damaged so we now are allowed to go decrypted. Generally speaking i think if you run the download through the console of an encrypted disc you just take unencrypted data right from the user himself or herself. I think encryption of a hard disk is not...I think its only valuable

2:38:30 Somebody steals the hard disk. I mean all of its moot though, I'm just pointing out what's going on and only Fox one report hmm? I don't think anyone can report on this very well No Well now I agree because I think our audience are producers understand the implications yeah a couple of euro Euro land news bits Did I want to get in there? Five suspected members of an ISIL terrorist cell have been arrested after coordinated police raids in Spain, Belgium and Germany. In Barcelona two individuals were detained and evidence seized. Accused of spreading propaganda and inciting attacks the group's dedicated Facebook page apparently had 32,500 followers and was attracting 500 new users per week. Did you hear what they were accused of?!

2:39:20 Yeah, nothing tweeting tweeting and maintaining a face bag page Spain's interior minister said we've simultaneously dismantled the network which was spreading. Oh We dismantled the network it was perfectly into shut the page down into the eyes all structure producing terrorist propaganda for example video material Which due to its cruelty aims to create a state of permanent insecurity? Arrests also took place in Brussels, Woerpertal in Germany and Spain's African enclave of Malia. There is Belgium again troublemakers! The EU's anti-terror chief praised the operation. The security service and law enforcement agencies are sharing much more information. Much more? Yes we're sharing. And it seems impressive. Very good we're sharing, we get social with them then go and get them. To see the number of plots which have been foreign in recent weeks

2:40:11 Spanish police say they've taken part in the arrests of 143 suspected terrorists since last year, 30 of which took place in other countries. The latest detentions reportedly included four Spaniards and one Moroccan national. Okay so now we have something to report... We got him! We got him! The damn Facebookers Meanwhile you know we have this deal with Turkey Not we, but the Eurolands has a deal with Turkey to send back migrants under certain circumstances. Mainly from Greece and from Italy this was put in place what six months ago now I think it's been about six months? It's been awhile How many migrants do you think they've moved?

2:40:57 of the half dozen, dozen fifty. It's not quite that bad a flagship EU policy to relocate migrants from Greece and Italy appears to have flopped but the European Commission is sticking to its flopped guns. EU leaders last September agreed to move 160 000 migrants from those two countries within two years But just over 5,000 people have been relocated. Commission officials reckon there are 30,000 eligible migrants still in Greece who will be moved by the end of next year. I don't know, these guys think they're all in charge and run the world. Despite the low numbers the EU's executive arm insists there'll be no change in policy We have to boost relocation. Relocation must work and I want to be very clear on that we haven't made any concession And we haven't stepped back from our basic principles on this policy The EU has also agreed a migration deal with the Turkish government

2:41:59 Under the pact, migrants who crossed by sea from Turkey to enter Greece will be deported back there if they don't apply for asylum or if their claim is rejected. Okay so there's the... You mentioned this guy sounds like he runs the world This is a classic bureaucrat! This is the world we're going to be stuck with that we don't divorce ourselves from The New World Order Yeah, exactly. You know we're well on our way. We are where we are signed were already signing the admission forms finally gents Jen Stoltenberg who of course is the NATO guy he weighed in

2:42:41 the debate about the EU army, which we should not call an EU army. Which we promised... We were promised there would never ever be an EU Army! It's- We promise you it is not going to happen No, we call it EU defense There is no contradiction between strong European defense and strong Atlantic cooperation within NATO Actually, strong Europe makes NATO stronger. What we need is a Europe which provides capabilities in complementarity with NATO and it is important to avoid duplication. Okay! It's all good to go EU defence not army defense

2:43:28 I got something on the New School shooting, which is one of the things that's been interrupting. But I want to do this story, which is the two guys who are those two boneheads walking down the street and picked up the bag in New York at the bag and threw out the bomb until they had pictures of the bag that bag by the way is gorgeous kind of bag was it? It was like some print bag, it had a print of a lion's head on it. It was just a good looking bag. Now that is exactly the bag I would choose if I wanted to have a nondescript bomb laying around New York. I'd put like a beautiful print bag. Air Mess, I think it was

2:44:03 It was looked like something, it didn't look cheap and it looked like something you went to the gym a lot. You'd want to use this bag but let's play these two guys in New York City the intro and then the follow-up. Oh I'm sorry I missed that one yeah here we go. Mohammed Rahami the father of the accused bomber tells ABC News... Stop stop stop! That's not the intro I don't think It's a bomber, new fact man and flannel. No no no those two guys in New York City Oh that's what I thought you said intro I'm sorry Mohammed Rahami the father of the accused bomber Now do i have them all wrong? You did it again Okay its those two guys in New York City Yeah Okay think I got it now Sorry I saying they know the two mystery men now

2:44:45 releasing this new surveillance image of them just today at the site of a bomb that did not detonate. They took the pressure cooker out of the bag and then walked off with the bag The police have been asking the men to come forward for a week now but they now say those men have left the country and they know where they went Here's ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross FBI agents tonight say they used hotel registration cards to identify these two men, employees of an Egyptian airline visiting New York from Cairo. But authorities still have not solved the week-long mystery of what they were up to when they apparently stumbled upon a piece of luggage with a pressure cooker bomb walking off of the bag and leaving the bomb behind They are witnesses there are no criminal charges they're not in any jeopardy being arrested but now authorities are arranging to question them

2:45:35 to determine if they are tied to the bomb attacks in any way or just sidewalk scavengers. Ooh, okay. Well they're just sidewalks scavengers. Sidewalk scavengers yes sir but as he continued with this report which is the second part which is New York City bomber new fact this dad of the bomber It's kind of a pest I think because he kind of blew He said before that this kid was working for the FBI, right? And you know that was not played up much but this second little episode here apparently if you listen to this The FBI guy. He was working with showed up and

2:46:14 When the guy was being hauled into the ambulance, and just listen to this and I'll explain what the scene looked like. Mohammed Rahami, the father of the accused bomber tells ABC News he has no idea who they are. The father also says he's convinced his 28-year old son Ahmad acted alone changing the locks on his bedroom door in the months before. Nobody can go there. One time my grandson went to his room And he's screaming and kick him out back. He is little four years old What do you think? I'd say he did something wrong The father also told ABC News that one of the FBI agents present when his son was captured last week, the man in the red check shirt Is the same agent who two years earlier had investigated His son as a possible terrorist and concluded without interviewing Ahmad in person that he was no terror threat Wait wait a minute what was that at the end

2:47:09 Yes, hold on let me listen that again. That was shirt is the same a back just a bit more Wow hold on And in the red check shirt is the same agent shit I want to get more of this I almost need to play The whole clip that's good man. What do you think? He did something wrong The father also told ABC News that one of the FBI agents present when his son was captured last week the man and the red checked shirt is the same agent who two years earlier had investigated his son as a possible terrorist and concluded without interviewing Ahmad in person that he was no terror threat. Wow! Yeah. Buh, bend over... Bend over. Well THAT tells us something Yes it puts us back on the six-week cycle kind of thing Two year cycle?

2:48:03 This guy was standing there. The guy was on a stretcher, the bomber and he's looking forward this guy shows up with his red check shirt and shows up and stands there the bomber looks at him and they make eye contact as some sort of like for a long time as though there is some messaging going on but it wasn't like the guys giving them hand signals and then they throw him into the ambulance. I thought it was very peculiar." I'll say, my goodness! Yeah. This is the dad again this dad yeah now this guy's... They gotta stop interviewing him or they're gonna blow everything He an Anthony Weiner may sign a suicide pact together i don't know that's not going to be good

2:48:55 As we're running a little short on time, I'd like to do one little bit here. This is tech news but i'm not going to do the tech news jingle. I just want to make a prediction and the prediction is when you listen to your favorite tech horny podcast here's what it will sound like this week. As Elon Musk announced his Kickstarter, because that's what the guy does. Another damn Kickstarter! The guy is just doing kickstarters to fund his crazy ideas and everybody lines up. Everyone lines up here he is, his Kickstarter for Mars. If we get a cut the cost of moving to Mars be roughly equivalent to a median house price in the US which is around $200,000

2:49:49 then I think the probability of establishing a self-sustaining civilization is very high. I think it would almost certainly occur... Not everyone would want to go, in fact I think a relatively small number of people from Earth would want to go but enough who'd want to go and could afford the trope. That's right! He's pitching! Hey can you do have a $200,000 house? You can go to Mars This guy Wow, this guy's out of control. He says he wants to die on Mars I'm like I said you can't start soon enough started Just have the new school shooting thing I think we need to get out of the way okay, which was not blown out of proportion like it could have been and And what I think is what's weird about the kid the new school shooting is this

2:50:42 You know, again drugs seem to be some issue here. Psychotropic drugs... And this kid with that piece of information here I will be at the end it was unknown to me. Move that patient towards the helicopter! Cell phones in the pockets of frightened parents across this small town started burning up at 1 45 p.m just before the end of classes. Samsung? What's that? There were Samsung phones When he said there's somebody pointed this out. I just it isn't a little interruption, but when they mentioned cell phones burning up They mentioned they said they had something about a Samsung washing machine exploding Yeah, I heard about this somebody pointed out that hey you're dealing with ABC owned by Disney large the largest shareholder Steve Jobs wife Apple Associates Samsung and phones with blowing up including their washing machines now blow-up

2:51:35 Yeah, blow it like they blow up. Parents across... yeah let's go. This small town started burning up at 1 45 p.m just before the end of classes for the day at Townville Elementary. We did have a report on a third patient Police say a local teenager armed with a handgun appeared to the playground behind the school and started shooting at teachers and children I think there were some students out on that recess area and the shooting may have occurred there and the teacher got the students in the classroom. A young boy was shot in the leg, another boy in the foot a teacher trying to keep the kids safe was shot in the shoulder one of the children had to be flown into a hospital in Greenville South Carolina police got here fast In seven minutes they had the teen in custody snipers went to the roof to clear the building while this all too familiar scene of moving children by school bus to a nearby church played out

2:52:30 Parents couldn't get to their children fast enough. It's not a fun call you ever want to get, and my mind started running and then I got here as fast as I could. About two miles from the school another crime scene police say it's the father of the shooter 46 year old Jeffrey Osborne And he's been shot dead Police say the son was homeschooled and they're not sure yet why he targeted the elementary schools School is canceled for rest of the week. Wow! I hadn't heard any of that either Dang, so he killed his dad? Yeah! He's homeschooled. Oh man... There you go. Homeschooling crazy. It's crazy children you're making crazy kids. Yeah the kid was obviously on some drug. Oh man why do I need to something uplifting to play us out then because this is just too depressing Okay. I got a fake commercial and thought it was funny. Why don't want hear it? No I do absolutely If you don't like it tell me stop and I'll stop

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2:55:06 Now on the App Store and Android you know I was listening to that thing. That's not a bad idea How about what we could make the love and light app instead of thoughts and prayers? I think love in light is better than thoughts and prayers well, maybe Think about it. We need some app developers oh Boy that was fun all right Well we're off. We're off until Sunday yes Sunday Sunday Sunday Funday. That's right at Monday Oh, and on Sunday we have to talk about what I'm going to talk about at the radio forum. The Newhouse Radio Forum in New York next week? You're going to New York to talk in a forum? Yeah with the CEO of NPR you know the chief marketing officer from iHeart. It's gonna be mainstream and then me Thursday after the show

2:55:57 Today some no, no next week next week. Okay start thinking about it was my So you're gonna do okay? Yeah well tell are you gonna give a talk yeah? It's I'm on a panel Oh Well, I have to have my zingers didn't you know do my go podcasting bit Yeah, mic drop. All right everybody thank you very much thank you for your support remember we have another show coming up on Sunday Dvorak dot org slash na until then coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper downtown Austin Texas if you're looking forward it's FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I should finish with a Confucius say but i'm not going to... I'm John C. Dvorak We will be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos! This is a rowdy crowd! Nope nope nope nope I don't want you guys to break anything while your here Nope nope nope nope

2:56:56 I've told you that the civil rights of LGBT Americans is... Hold on a second. Okay, you know what? No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no hey! Listen You're in my house. You're not gonna get a good response from me by interrupting like this I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. Shame on you! You shouldn't be doing this. You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take ya out. Alright... Can we have this person removed please? I'm just gonna wait until we get this done. Okay where was i?

2:57:56 As a general rule, I am just fine with a few hecklers. But not when i'm up in the house! My attitude is that if you're eating the actual hors d'oeuvres... You know what im saying? ELON! There would be an examination of me and all this as who we are and what we've done And based on that- Oh uh Climate change. I think the world is getting warmer, but it's man-caused. Should we take a long term view when it comes to global warming? And the long term view is that in billions of years

2:58:51 Sun is gonna actually grow and encompass the earth right so global warming is in our future What it is a lot May I have your attention please? Oh, Zika! Oh, Zika. Zika zika zika zika... A little baby with a little bitty head With a baby with a small head They're gonna have to make a little head You watch Zika zika zika zika zika yeah Where's the money? 1.9 billion dollars Zika zika zika zika zika yeah Where's the money? Let's have it now Zika zika zika zika zika yeah Where's the money

2:59:43 Small heads are coming. You're gonna do it you watch I got ants I Got ants I don't know if we had ants. We had ant invasion, uh...I was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants and then ground them to powder like fine grind black pepper? We were having dinner and yeah! I got an ant somehow in the meal and I ate it These things are peppery.

3:00:39 I got ants. These ants, they don't need a lot and then you see when you find all the ones that are roaming around you... I backed them off by doing the burning trick. You just torch them. And leave him there The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's an ant that you do not torch and that's an ant that is carrying one of the dead ants back. I got ants! I got ants. I got ants, ants, ants, ants. Hey man fist bump. The best podcast in the universe! Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N A