Episode 860 · Thursday, 15 September 2016

Power Through

A medical emergency at Ground Zero and a massive email leak from Colin Powell send the 2016 presidential race into a spiral of health conspiracies and media cover-ups.

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About this episode

Hillary Clinton abruptly exited a 9/11 memorial ceremony in New York City after appearing to collapse while boarding her motorcade, sparking intense scrutiny of her medical transparency. Video footage captured the Democratic nominee being physically supported by staff as her feet dragged on the pavement, leading the campaign to pivot from initial claims of overheating to a pneumonia diagnosis. This medical emergency has reignited debates over presidential succession and the potential for the DNC to activate contingency plans.

Leaked emails from a compromise of Colin Powell’s AOL account reveal the former Secretary of State privately questioned Clinton’s stamina and labeled Donald Trump a national disgrace. Meanwhile, James Woolsey joined the Trump campaign as a senior adviser, signaling a shift in support from the intelligence community. Media bias remains a central focus after CBS News edited an interview with Bill Clinton to remove his admission that his wife’s physical collapses occur frequently. Further analysis of the 9/11 incident identifies Christine Falvo of the Rubenstein agency as the woman assisting the candidate, debunking rumors of a secret neurological nurse.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the coordinated media use of the phrase power through to describe the candidate's health struggles. The broadcast features a deep dive into the purse shoulder theory regarding a potential body double and a look at the $124 million payout for Wells Fargo executive Carrie Tolstedt following the bank's massive fraud scandal.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, Night Attack Crossover

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. Curry discusses his recent appearance on the Night Attack podcast with Brian Brushwood and Justin Robert Young, noting the significant audience crossover between the two shows. The hosts briefly mention the history of the Podcast Awards and the maturity of the No Agenda audience compared to other fanbases.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· night attack· brian brushwood· justin robert young· podcast awards· austin

00:00 Do not tweet this! Oh, and my glad rags and handbags and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin, Tejas in FEMA region six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I want to remind you children don't blow in a mic. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. Oh, did I have a plosive?

00:37 I just run what I read. Oh, it was time to remind kids not to blow into a mic It was just a handy tip okay get it. I thought I thought I messed something up. No you sound good, okay? Heyo in the morning In the morning to you, and I guess, oh by the way, I wanted to say I heard you on the Nighthawk. Oh, Night Attack. Night Attack? Yes. Which also, by the way, has the same two letters as the agenda. NA. It was an incredible crossover of the Venn diagram of the two audiences. Yeah, I bet. Did you see the whole thing? No, I watched the first half hour and the last 15 minutes. Oh man, did you see me smoking?

01:20 Yeah, you're smoking dope right off the beginning. I said like surprise the cops didn't bust in I know it's illegal there right in Texas. Yes, it is yeah, it is a Cigarette that's what I'd say. You know what it is though. I'll tell you why Because when I was preparing to go on the show yes, I prepared to go on interviews etc Wow yeah, I noticed the way they do this show they have pretty much the cameras are on all the time and And you know there's not it's not switched away, so I'm on screen the entire time and p and they did one cut oh Really yeah, it was like that three shot three shot just the whole time except for about it for about 10 seconds There was a one shot of you right. I don't know why well. Here's the problem so when you

02:12 I've done television all my life, but it was controlled television or it's you know It's gonna be and this was like, you know with a pre-show and the post-show like four hours that I'm there But if you had that shot on me I become very conscious of my Tourette's and you start to see it, you know I start I was well I was that's the only reason I was watching. Did you see it? You saw it, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was it was it was pretty funny actually to me So what when I when I smoke some weed I can be incredibly I can think, I can think straight, I can be myself, but it takes my mind off of that because otherwise I'd be out of control. In fact, there's a chat room, you have a screen rolling by. At one point I saw someone in the chat room say, oh my God, Curry has Zika. Just look at him. I'm like, okay. So you get really... I watch for that, not for that reason. I just want to see how the show is. You're like, eh, let me see his Tourette's. Yeah, just to mock you.

03:08 And I thought you, knowing what you have to go through when you get on video to look halfway normal, I thought you did a fantastic job. I don't think anybody, normal person that doesn't know you or didn't know that you had Tourette's would ever even think of that. It'd be the last thing on their mind. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I mean, you had a couple of little twitches and ticks, you know, little... It's like you had a sore neck or something, you know, that kind of thing. That's pretty much it. It wasn't that... It was hardly noticeable. Okay. Well, thank you. And I didn't realize that you were... That was the... I didn't know that the weed helped, but I guess, yeah. Oh, man, it helped so much. Oh good, well those guys are just get drinking. Yeah, so you know me I couldn't drink too much I wanted to be kind of on point. Right, you in fact I said, oh great he's got these. I thought here's what I thought. I said, ah I see he's smoking dope so he doesn't have to drink. Yep. Because that's what you know would be an you know. We know that's an error, that's an error if I yeah.

04:04 If I drink yeah, yeah, you got like I said it to you before no you know you've never done a test on this But I think you've got Indian blood in you yeah, okay, all right And so I didn't so yeah, I smoked the weed and it was I think I smoked three joints really I Got home I was baked No, but yes, I thought I had a lot of fun. I really and you know I I know Schwood, I've met him a couple of times. I never really met Justin Young. That guy's talented. He's a real comedian. I mean, like comedic writer. He is a comedian. I think he did stand up. Yeah. And a very funny guy. And it's a good combo. It's these two people like us, you know, sometimes it really turns out well. But I got to tell stories that would normally not come up on No Agenda.

04:59 Just they trigger, oh, I'll tell that story. Stuff that we've never even talked about. I had a good time. The coolest thing was I showed up early, because I was traffic and I had to go down way, way south Austin. And Brian says, well, before we start, why don't you, you want to play with the Vive? The Vive? What's the Vive? You know what the Vive is? Oh, you know, I should know, but I don't. Yeah, you should really. It's a virtual reality system. Okay, so they have it there for some reason. Yeah, he has it in the studio. He has the VR. He has the goggles. You gotta, you have to have a big honking computer to run it like an eight core Intel something or other. But this system also has sensors in the room that are all set up and calibrated. So, oh my. My son has that rig in one of his bedrooms. I gotta tell you. Have you tried it? No. Oh, you have to try it.

06:00 And you know I've been very skeptical about VR very skeptical this shit blew me away And this is before I started smoking weed this was really really good very natural within 20 seconds your brains like okay, I'm here And you're shooting arrows, you're looking at whales, I mean, very immersive. I would say a public health danger. People will never ever go back to real life. You know, people who don't understand that, you know, that you're in fantasy, your brain adapts immediately. You can walk around things. I was fully impressed. And so much for tech news, everybody. Anyway, it's enough. Yeah. Anyway, it's what is it?

06:46 What is it called? Nightattack.tv. Have a look. I'll put it in the show notes. Okay. Well, at least I noticed that you plugged the show. You did a good job of that, especially at the end where you're dropping and dropping in the URL. All right. Come on. You mentioned that we won an award. We actually talked about the awards. Oh yeah. How, how the night attack ruined the podcast awards. Because yeah, well, you know as it turns out remember that year not this year with the year before they won every single category Well, that's because of their audience unlike the no agenda audience Well, our guys are a little more mature. Yeah, so maybe I don't know about that But you know, maybe maybe we'll get some help in the next awards even it out a little bit just to make it better

07:36 I'll definitely go with that says horror which says that we should win the award for comedy show. That's no for best Album art oh yeah, there's not even a category for that. Yeah, it should be that hell. Yeah. Yeah, hell. Yeah absolutely Okay, well there's a lot of news to discuss and we got to get to it because there's a lot yeah Yes, it's all but it's all really this is the great sketchy news. This is like I'll say sleazy news Hillary Call Colin Powell mm-hmm another email hack in the email I don't know what you want to start with because we got plenty of different directions to go But I wouldn't mind starting with that

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

Colin Powell Email Hack, Russian Intelligence Allegations

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell's personal AOL email account was compromised, with the leaked contents published on DCLeaks.com. Media outlets including Fox News and ABC report that Powell referred to Donald Trump as a "national disgrace" and labeled the birther movement as racist. While intelligence officials link the hack to Russian state actors, the hosts question why Russia would release emails that damage Trump's reputation.

colin powell· dcleaks· russian intelligence· donald trump· hillary clinton· guccifer 2.0· wada

08:20 Colin Powell email hack okay, yeah, I got one or two clips there you got something well I have some setup clips that are all kind of interesting as these are this Let's start with what happened Powell had apparently his personal email which is maybe an AOL account. I don't know what you know and somebody just He was on the board of directors at AOL. That's why he had an AOL account so he yeah like he should be on the board so He probably had some like a password that somebody just cracked because AOL would be easy to crack, it seems to me, if you wanted to just, you know, throw a bunch of bots at the password. And starting with some good guesses, which I'm sure somebody could do. And so they got into his account and maybe some other accounts or, you know, there's different ways they can go with this. But what got me was there was immediate

09:19 And we play some of these clips. I have mostly clips of people reading. We haven't gone into the thing itself because it's just one of those things. I'll tell you what, let me just do this for one second. This is a very short setup. Fox about the Colin Powell emails and you know we have more examples of this. I believe when Trump couldn't keep that up he said he also wanted to see if the certificate is in the birth certificate noted that he was a Muslim as in President Obama. By the way these emails were obtained by DCLeaks.com which has ties to Russian intelligence agencies and angle to keep an eye on after that hack on the DNC and all these charges. There you go. Russia's the right, that was Fox News by the way.

10:03 Fox News? Oh, it's Russians. Everybody was... I think I have... I don't know. Yeah, here's one. Here's the ABC report on the hack Powell emails. This is number one. Colin Powell hacked, calling Donald Trump in email, quote, a national disgrace and Trump's birther movement, quote, racist. But he also expressed his displeasure with the Clinton campaign and ABC Cecilia Vega on what the emails reveal. He is one of the most famous faces in the GOP, serving under three Republican presidents. But in his hacked emails, Colin Powell calls his own party's nominee a national disgrace and an international pariah. The former Secretary of State also said Donald Trump has no sense of shame.

10:45 Powell's emails were hacked in what could be Russia's latest attempt to influence this election. In those emails, he does not hold back, saying Trump appeals to the worst angels of the GOP nature. The thing that I found most peculiar about what Colin Powell was saying in his emails is that he is so convinced His conviction is so strong that the birther movement, that Donald Trump's birther actions are racist. How is that racist if you want to know if someone was born in America or not? How is that racist? Well, he's got to screw loose if he thinks that's racist. And the worst part, there are two things that bother me about this. One,

11:31 It's been proven and we've discussed this on the show that Hillary Clinton is the one who started the birther movement when she was running for president in 2008. Her staff. It was her dirty tricksters. So, so Clinton, so, uh, meanwhile, we should probably don't we have a clip of that Clinton birth or we have some clip. We might, we probably have a few clips. I don't know what they would be called. And the second thing is, but while you look for that, the second thing is how does rush, how's Russia involved if the, if the results of this show that Trump is a despicable creep.

12:11 and they go on and on and Paul just nails him for being a you know and then he also nails Flynn for being a jerk and I don't see where why why would this be Russia? This is because it doesn't make sense why wouldn't they edit a few of these out especially the anti-Trump stuff there was a lot of anti-Trump stuff you know how's that the Russians trying to rig the election who are they rigging it for? Sanders? Allow me to bring in Chris Hayes from MSNBC who just would not stop about this. In multiple emails he comments on Trump's leadership of the birther movement calling it racist writing in one quoting quote there is nothing he can say that will sway black voters he takes us for idiots he can never overcome what he tried to do to Obama with a search for the birth certificate hoping to force Obama out of the presidency

12:55 A senior U.S. intelligence official tells NBC News the site where the emails were posted, dcleaks.com, not affiliated with Wikileaks, is believed to be a conduit for Russian intelligence. This is just the latest trove of hacked emails to disrupt the presidential race. There were those internal DNC emails released just before the Democratic convention, which revealed institutional bias against Bernie Sanders and led to the ouster of party chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz. That leak was claimed by a hacker who goes by the moniker Goosepher 2.0, widely believed to have been made up by the Russian government in an attempt to cover up their own hack. Just yesterday that same happened. The guy's in jail. Ah, no, no, stop for a second. You're incorrect on that. Guccifer is in jail. Guccifer 2.0 is probably not the same guy.

13:44 So I'm not gonna say that's not true. Okay. All I know is the guy that was in jail and we do have a clip. We've had the clip. It's the Amy Goodman clip. Yeah. Announcing the sentencing of this guy who claims to be Guccifer 2.0. No, no, no, no. He claimed to be Guccifer. I don't think he was Guccifer 2.0. Now you can listen to the Amy Goodman clip. Hold on. Let's listen to the Amy Goodman clip. Let me see. I'm sure I have it here. Guccifer Jails. Yeah, that would be the one. In Virginia, the Romanian hacker known as Gucci for 2.0 has been sentenced to 52 months in prison. You're right. You're right. Okay. Well, that may be incorrect on her part. I'm not saying it's incorrect or correct. It's somewhat beside the point. I got you. In the lexicon, he's in jail. That's your point. He's in jail and he admitted to the DNC hack. Is that also in this clip? I believe so.

14:38 In Virginia, the Romanian hacker known as Guccifer 2.0 has been sentenced to 52 months in prison. In June, Guccifer claimed responsibility for hacking into the DNC's computer network. He's thought to be the source of the 200,000 DNC emails. I got a bunch of flack on Twitter from some guy saying this. Yeah, I got a lot too. But that's where you got this from. This is not the report. No, no, I got you. I got you. OK, I'm going to go back and we'll pick this up again. I'm almost done with this. Chris Hayes goes by the moniker Guccifer 2.0. Why? And by the way, I agree it should be. We need an official pronunciation guide. It should be Gucci for. I think it should be Gucci. Gucci for like the shoes. Gucci. Gucci for exactly. I think we say Gucci for.

15:28 All right, we're good? Goochie for me. I'm saying Goochie for you. Wait, this is actually pretty funny. Made up! Made up, there's a guy in jail. Just yesterday that same hacker released more DNC documents including one containing what appears to be the personal cell phone number for vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine. According to a memo that Tim... Hold on. All the reports of this guy, you know, sending new stuff out which is another Twitter feedback I got from some goofus. It always says in the reports a spokesperson for Gucci fur. Yeah.

16:12 Whoever that is. Whoever that is. I wanted that spokesperson. That's kind of fun. Have some staff. Bias against Bernie Sanders and led to the ouster of party chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz. That leak was claimed by a hacker who goes by the moniker Goosepher 2.0, widely believed to have been made up by the Russian government in an attempt to cover up their own hack. Just yesterday, that same hacker released more DNC documents, including one containing what appears to be the personal cell phone number for Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine. According to a memo obtained by Politico, hackers are also targeting state Democratic Party officials and have successfully breached and impersonated some of them. Interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile did not mince words when she holds, before she holds responsible, quote,

16:57 The DNC is the victim of a crime, an illegal cyber attack by Russian state-sponsored agents who seek to harm the Democratic Party and progressive groups in an effort to influence the presidential election. There's one person who stands to benefit from these criminal acts, and that is Donald Trump. It's not just the Democratic Party and other public officials being targeted. Not long after Russian athletes were barred from the Rio Olympics for doping, Russian hackers posted what they say are the drug testing records of gymnast Simone Biles and tennis star Serena Williams. Did you follow that by the way? They hacked him. And it wasn't a report, it was a fact. They busted him. And this I believe may have been done by the Russians because it was a quid pro quo of them getting screwed by these same guys. I have a quick report on that. That is a possibility. I have a quick report from our favorite girl if you're interested. Yeah, play it. Guyanichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichichich

17:53 The leaked water documents purportedly show that a number of top US athletes were allowed to take banned substances over a long period of time. As we understand, posted online were copies of therapeutic use exemption certificates. Tennis player Serena Williams was allowed to take banned substances such as... Listen to this. Listen to these substances. This is great. oxycodone, hydromorphone, prednisone and methylprednisolone, if I pronounce them correctly. I'm baked, man. Holy moly, that's some hardcore crap right there.

18:30 In 2010, 2014 and 2015, Venice Williams was also allowed to take a number of banned substances in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. Gymnast Simone Biles, who won four gold medals in the 2016 Olympics in Rio, is shown to have tested positive for methyl methyl phenidate in August at the time of the Olympics. Biles was apparently also allowed to take dextroamphetamine in 2013 or 2014. We reached out to the Gymnastics Federation and they said Biles took the substances for medical reasons. Oh yeah, medical reasons. Yeah, to keep you awake. Now this

19:14 I love that stuff. I would say that this is this may this makes the most sense of being a Russian hack Yeah, I agree and I would say that this probably wouldn't have happened if they hadn't banned completely all the Russian including Paralympics guys. Yeah Guys were banned all of them. Stop is in wheelchairs. Stop doping your wheelchair, man. That's not cool. Oh I mean these deserve to be hacked and this deserve to come out. This is another you know kind of an interesting I like how they say relation. I like I got to say you know took the drugs for medical reasons Yeah, that seems like kind of what you do Crazy I mean yeah the show writes itself people

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Health Rumors, Colin Powell Emails

Leaked emails from Colin Powell reveal private discussions regarding Hillary Clinton's physical health and her relationship with President Obama. In correspondence with Democratic donor Jeffrey Leeds, Powell noted that Clinton "doesn't look good" on television and reportedly struggled to climb podium steps at events. Additional emails show Powell dismissing the Benghazi investigation as a "stupid witch hunt" while still placing some blame on Clinton and the State Department.

hillary clinton· colin powell· jeffrey leeds· benghazi· don lemon· hamptons· health

20:02 So let's go back to the Colin Powell run. Now here's another one that's kind of funny. This is Don Lemon was... Ah, what are you doing on my beat? Sorry, I just caught him and I couldn't resist this particular clip. Email rundown Don Lemon Hampton party. Oh boy, this will be good. Yeah, the Hamptons party. Okay, let's stop right here. Ha ha! They were at the Hamptons party together? So let's get this straight. Colin Powell's at the Hamptons party. A Democratic fundraiser. A big Democratic fundraiser. He's supposedly a Republican, but he's there at the Hamptons.

21:01 and he's throwing a hissy fit because they're going to bring out because what they're going to think they're going to do is blame him for the email thing and he doesn't want it. So he had to throw a temper tantrum to get their attention and still and still they did it. He told her minions don't bring me into this and they did as he's sip the Chardonnay, the Moet Chardonnay, and ate the delicious, delicious shrimp. I have to tell you that petit fours were just delectable. So this guy is a hand for the Democrats. He's supposedly a big GOP guy. I sure he is. Yeah. That may be an opener. Let me write that down. I missed it. The delectable. So let's, then we get this one here. This is another rundown. This is a,

21:56 Run down Powell on the on Hillary is more more dirt Colin Powell. Oh, no play play play. Sorry play Play it, play it, no play it, play it, play it, play it. Colin Powell also discussed Hillary Clinton's health. In an email conversation with Democratic mega-donor Jeffrey Leeds, Powell writes, quote, on HDTV, she doesn't look good. She is working herself to death. Mr. Leeds responds by saying that Rhode Island Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse told him that he and Clinton gave, quote, speeches at the same event a few months back, and she could barely climb the podium steps. Jeffrey Leeds also sent a number of emails to Colin Powell detailing Hillary and Bill Clinton's dislike of President Obama. Now that rundown of that email, which is why we're going to have to go over these, or somebody's going to have to go over these with a fine tooth comb.

22:50 That was edited back by every network. They would not bring in the guy's name They would not bring in that she's staggering up the stairs barely making it the White House. Oh, no We don't want to put that out there so that this this was a report on Fox So there they would put it in yeah, but everybody else took all that information out It was actually the best part have you updated the leaner report for this? No, but there's a new couple new I know I'm sure you have the same I do mm-hmm which one I Bill what about bill bill CBS editing bill? Oh yeah, Bill, I didn't put... No, I got that. We have to play that. Okay, we'll play it, but let's finish this. Take your time. I'm good. Here's another one. This is also Don Lemon about the Benghazi thing. And Powell has obviously never read into what we believe to be the case for Benghazi, but it's still beside the point. It's a good clip. It's about Benghazi. They supported her, sort of. All right, so here's what Powell writes. He says, Benghazi is a stupid witch hunt. Basic false false.

23:51 on a courageous ambassador who thought Libyans now love me and I am okay in this very vulnerable place. But blame also rests on his leaders and supports back here, Pat Kennedy, Intel Community, DS, and yes, HRC. And then Condoleezza Rice replied, completely agree. Okay, that was that and then we have I yeah, that's just a gratuitous clip, but no no, there's a gratuitous clip, okay, okay? Let's go with this one. This is the Megan Kelly had Flynn who I'm actually liking more and more You know we have a direct line to Flynn we can talk. Yes. Yeah, that's good. We like it. We like it the direct line oh

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

General Michael Flynn, NSA Surveillance Capabilities

General Michael Flynn appeared on Fox News with Megyn Kelly to address being insulted in the leaked Colin Powell emails. Flynn suggests that high-visibility individuals must assume their communications are never truly private, whether targeted by nation-states or anonymous groups. The discussion explores the possibility that the NSA's internal databases, which allow access via Social Security numbers, could be the source of such leaks rather than Russian intelligence.

michael flynn· meyn kelly· nsa· surveillance· dcleaks· russian hackers· intelligence

24:33 We like the direct line and I watched this guy. He's very personal. He had a big smile on his face. He thought these emails calling him. He was called by a pal, a jerk, right wing, a whole. Yeah. He was rude to people. I'll go figure someone in the military rude to people. Yeah. I can't imagine while somebody in the, especially in the Pentagon running the D I a would be rude to anybody you think I'm just shocked in the world. Yeah. Can I get an invite to those Hampton parties? So he came on and he actually, I think he didn't do, he didn't say anything specifically that, that, that I can point to that I think it's a smoking gun. But if I'm interpreting the following, I'm believing the following because we've talked about this on the show. The easiest way to get Powell's emails, wherever they came from, was to use the mechanism that's available to NSA.

25:31 This was discussed by Snowden, this was discussed by others. There's apparently a terminal, you walk up to it, you put somebody's social security number in it, which is the weird way to access, but that's what the way that Linden is. That's the identifier. That was the identifier. You put that number in and boom, you've got all their emails, you got all whatever you want, you got all their phone records. So that's an NSA internal database? Supposedly nice and guys have been using it against their girl I Called bill again good times Now I I'm guessing although this wasn't discussed in too much detail about the emails at the NSA I'm guessing they could pull up that stuff rather easily and pass it around. Yeah, and I'm still of the opinion that the NSA is kind of working against Hillary

26:26 But here's Megan and Flynn, and this is Megan and Flynn on the emails part one. Which is the intelligence arm of the US military. He's also author of The Field of Fight, How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies. General, good to see you. Hi, Megan. Your reaction to General Powell's thoughts? Yeah, right wing nutty, and I think he called me a jerk too. I've actually been called worse things by my little sister. I would just tell you, you know, take that sissy boy. Wow. That was, I know that was a very interesting, very slight needle. My little sister is worse than you. You win. Call me a jerk too. I've actually been called worse things by my little sister. You know, I would just tell you, you know, this is another secretary of state, you know, and, you know, you know, actually he got that, that is an actual example of someone getting butt slammed.

27:19 Well, you got the clip. Play it. No, you need to bring it to the front. I didn't... Yeah, yeah, we'll do it this way. Hi, Megan. Your reaction to General Powell's thoughts? Yeah, right wing nutty and I think he called me a jerk too. I've actually been called worse things by my little sister. Whoa! You got butt-slammed! You know, I would just tell you, you know, this is another Secretary of State, you know, and another individual who has had their email hacked. I mean, what are we learning from this, Megan? I mean, and I will tell you what, more to come, more to come. And the fact, you know, the business with, you know, not knowing whether or not, you know, nation states have the 33,000 or what Colin Powell has said. I mean, when are people going to learn that there are

28:08 there are threats out there that are going to continue to hack their email. I've said I would love to have my emails hacked and people have, I know that they've tried it because I'm not saying, I'm not disparaging people in my emails. I'm being very honest, very blunt about what I say publicly is what I say in my private email communications. I don't screw around like that because I was taught as a young kid by my father to treat others like you like to be treated and that's the golden rule. Yeah, all right. Ben, he's an intelligence guy. He's not dumb. He's not gonna put stupid stuff on email. Yeah, right. These guys know what's going on. This is Megan and Flynn, this part, this second part, which is a Target clip. This one kind of says to me that there's something, somebody knows something that they're not really telling us. Do you think this was Russia? I mean, do you think Russia is behind the DNC hack?

29:02 and this hack, and if so, why? Well, who would know would be our, the White House would know if that was the case and certainly those in our intelligence community would know, would know what that, if that is the case. You know, I really don't know. What I know is that- Why would they go after Colin Powell? Well, you know, hey everybody's everybody that's in a that's a highly visible person when somebody finds that kind of you know Sort of titillating whatever you want to call it, you know Information it's publicly it's going they're gonna make it publicly available I mean people have got to come to grips with their emails, you know, and they're those that are high visibility people He's a high visibility person. He obviously said some really mean things I mean the end of the day he said some really mean things now he thought that they were private and

29:46 But Megan, nothing is private when you are a target of whether it's an anonymous group or whether it's a nation state. Oh. All right. He also said, I thought I had one of these two clips. Maybe it was in the first one. I missed it. But it was he says there's more to come. Yeah, we know there's more to come. Yeah, there's more to come. He wouldn't say the Russians because he knows better. It's not the Russians. Why would it be? Well, this DC leaks thing is very annoying. They came out of nowhere. And they're being called a Russian front. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Do they have any proof that they're a Russian front? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know anything about them. Nope. I have not heard anything. No one's really given any details. Oh, DC leaks. Assange would probably know. Assange would know. Yeah, I'm sure he does. Well, he published, he, I think, didn't they co-publish or didn't he publish those as well or something like that? I haven't seen them.

30:42 No, no, it's the Guccifer 2.0 that he published. Okay. Yeah, the DC leaks, I don't know. It's a little annoying that those guys, I don't know who those guys are. Yeah, we have to find out or get close to figuring it out. We'll just have Flynn tell us. We got a line to him. Hey, man, who are those DC leaks guys? Let us know. You might know. Then there's kind of in the same... During this, I'm listening to all this stuff about Flynn. We have our theories on the show about who's on what side and we've got the... You were kind of anti-Flynn first. It's interesting that you... I don't believe that. You thought he was an a-hole promoting a book. I clearly remember that. Oh well, he probably was when it was on. Part of that is true obviously.

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

James Woolsey Joins Trump Campaign, CIA Internal Politics

Former CIA Director James Woolsey has joined Donald Trump's campaign as a senior adviser on national security. This move is analyzed alongside endorsements from 88 former military leaders and 14 Medal of Honor recipients. The hosts discuss the internal divide within the CIA and military between high-level "pencil pushers" and rank-and-file operatives, noting that Woolsey's alignment with Trump marks a significant shift in intelligence community support.

james woolsey· donald trump· cia· national security· michael flynn· military endorsements

31:26 So he, I like him more and more. And I've kind of admired his, he has a lot of style. He reminds me of Dempsey. Only Dempsey managed not to get thrown out of the army the way Flynn was thrown out of the Pentagon. Obama had one of his house cleanings. Dempsey literally flies under the radar. Yeah, Dempsey did a good job, because he's now retired. But then this story, the Woolsey story showed up, and I didn't see anybody playing this up except Democracy Now! The Woolsey story, all right. In more campaign news, Donald Trump has named former CIA Director James Woolsey to be his senior adviser on national security. Woolsey is considered a far-right neoconservative. After the 9-11 attacks, he was a leading voice calling for war with Iraq. Donald Trump, in contrast, has repeatedly claimed he's been against the war in Iraq.

32:21 Now, Woolsey's pretty high up, or was high up, wasn't he? He was the director. Yeah, he was a big-ass guy. And I think he was one of the directors that actually had something to do with the rank and file. Now, we've heard from our sources, as you reported this, that it's not necessarily true that the CIA... Because in our basic thesis of this election, who's supporting who, we have the CIA and CBS, it's a broadcasting outlet. All in for Hillary. All in for Hillary, but then you said one of your sources, somebody said... Here's what my source said. He said, the people who actually run CIA are considered pencil pushers and they don't really count. Same in the military. The people who are actually doing the work are, you know, are really doing the work. They call them literally pencil pushers. So when I say, Hey, Brennan, isn't this guy, he's all in for... No, pencil pusher, just a pencil pusher. Okay. I'll take their word for it.

33:17 Yeah, and now that Woolsey came over, that may be a kind of a break in the dike. I think Trump had a letter from former military and intelligence commanders that he really, which of course you won't hear about, you know, Hillary has, you know, 100 million former guys who are all on All pencil pushers. All on her side, here it is, Military Times. What is this? Let me see, I'm gonna bring it up right now. Oh no, I'm sorry, 14 Medal of Honor recipients endorsed Trump. That's not bad. And some other military, here's a letter, open letter from military leaders. And here's the following list of people who are, I probably won't read it all, but

34:02 List who support Trump. General Bell, General Hansen, Admiral Johnson, General Crosby-Saint, Lieutenant General Boykin, Lieutenant General, it just goes on and on and on. Vice admirals, admirals, major generals, I mean there's, how many are on here? 88. That's the list of 88. 88, hey, nice number. Some sort of a number code number. I'm sure, they're all ham guy, they're all hams. That's your they probably are there's a lot of hams in the military. Oh, oh, yeah, definitely I think anyway, so the Woolsey story was under reported as you even didn't even know it which is no no I got you there one for me And that says that I don't know what that means in the scheme of things But you know that he I'm hoping I could be wrong because I don't know what's going on with the Trump campaign But I would think he would run it past Flynn before he did this

35:03 Yeah, because you don't want two good military guys from two different agencies beefing with each other. Oh, no, not getting along. And there's been a lot of even though the D.A. and the CIA seem to work well together, from what I can see just observing these these, you know, these crazy conferences that they keep broadcasting on C-SPAN, they seem to get along. It's the NSA guys that seem to be all by themselves doing whatever they do. They maintain that they're the most secretive historically. We didn't even know about them until recently. And they're sticking with that. They still, you know, we don't know what the hell they're thinking. They never show up for these meetings. I'm gonna go in this stupid meeting. Yeah, why should I go to that meeting? What difference at this point does it make? So let's go back to

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

Donald Trump Medical Records, Dr. Oz Appearance

Donald Trump appeared on The Dr. Oz Show to reveal summary data from his recent physical examination, including cholesterol levels and blood pressure. The media reaction focuses on the unconventional nature of Trump's longtime physician, Dr. Harold Bornstein, who previously claimed Trump would be the healthiest president ever elected. Critics point out that the campaign has yet to release a full, detailed medical history beyond the summary pages shown on television.

donald trump· dr. oz· medical records· harold bornstein· cholesterol· colonoscopy· health

35:54 This is the latest ABC Trump rundown. ABC, of course, we believe is a Trump promoter. And you have to kind of read between the lines with some of these stories. Do you already want to move away from Clinton and go to Trump? Is that what we're doing? Are we transitioning? I didn't think we even got to Clinton yet. I think we're going... Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, you're absolutely right. Keep going. Yeah, unless you want to just jump to Clinton. I'd rather get Trump out of the way. Yeah, let's get Trump out of the way and then I got to jump to Clinton. I got some stuff for you. Good. So this is the... I got a perfect transition because I'm going to go from this clip, the Trump run down to the Clinton. Oh my God. We're going to go into a transition here. Standby. John's going to do a transition then tosses it.

36:38 So we're going to start with the Trump rundown and this is a report by Tom Yamas who must just be, if he has to do anything, his stuff is always anti-Trump, but if he has to do anything that's kind of pro-Trump, it's got to gall him because he's the guy that they keep referring to Trump called out a reporter by name at one of the Trump speeches and he did. He called out Tom Yamas and said he was a liar. Yes, that's exactly what happened. Tonight Trump now leads 46 to 41. Every one of these networks started off with like one of these 48 to 42, 46 to 43 and each one by their bias

37:24 When CBS did this, it was Hillary was ahead but not by as much. I didn't see the NBC report, but I'm guessing it was a pro, because these numbers go back and forth. All the MSNBC stuff is like... Oh yeah, it's all over the place. ABC, which we believe is pro-Trump, doesn't switcheroo and shows that Trump's kicking ass somehow. Yeah, in Ohio, a very important state. Leads 46 to 41. ABC's Tom Yamos leading us off. Just like she's failed on foreign policy. Everything she touched didn't work out. Nothing. Now Hillary Clinton... Mr. Trump, I invited you here to thank us for what we've done... Oh, oh, oh, okay. Not to give a political speech. Okay. That was really... Someone really effed up on that appearance.

38:23 Yeah, that would be Trump's feet on the ground. That was bad. No, man, because he's good in the black church, but this was bad the way he right. It was. But but if you notice the report, because we're talking about ABC, they started off with Trump's butt slamming Hillary with a couple of interesting little quotes that they left in. They didn't have to do that. They could have just reported it. They didn't have to leave the anti-Hillary stuff in there, but they did. So it was edited in. The woman comes out and kind of embarrasses Trump and tells him to get back on track. And then Yamas gets his part of it and he says, then Trump left, kind of, even though there was a whole bunch of stuff Trump said. after that moment.

39:27 Genius move. I think that was the smartest thing. You know, it's one of these things you or I would be like, I'm too embarrassed to even do that. He has no shame. No, he's shameless. I think Powell hit that one on the right on the money. Out of the park with this one though. But this one, here's what was to me funniest bit about it. He's sitting there. It's like so rehearsed. That's what really bugged me. He's like, hey, what do you think audience? So, well, there was already that, but he goes like, yes, exactly. He goes, because you can't see this from the clip, but he says, he's sitting there and Oz says, why don't you reveal your stuff? He says, well, I guess I could. Yeah, I should have it right here. Should I carry it with me wherever I go? And he pulls it out of his pocket. Now, apparently, come on, people. Now, apparently,

40:18 And I don't have any clips of this. This was just a promo that was sent early to all the news networks and they're like, oh, this is ridiculous, it's nuts. But on the show, and I think it airs Monday. I thought it airs today. Oh, it might air today. He actually has a full lab report and all kinds of stuff that was not in the promo. So everyone is going to look pretty stupid. So it was like a double setup. I think today he'll reveal, oh my God, look at all this stuff that he actually had throughout the entire week. I'm like, oh, this is nuts, Dr. Oz, nothing, piece of paper in his pocket. So I think there's a setup there that will be revealed. I don't think anyone's fallen for it because there was a lot revealed on this ABC report. Why not share your medical records? Why not? Well, I have really no problem in doing it. I have it right here. I mean, should I do it? I don't care.

41:12 It's two letters, one is the report and the other is from Lenox Hill Hospital. May I see them? Yeah, sure. So these are the reports? Those were all the tests that were just done last week. Audience members tell us Trump revealed his cholesterol level, blood pressure, and the results of his latest colonoscopy, and that he takes a statin. Dr. Oz likes talking about poop, so maybe they talk about his colonoscopy. He does have a hand. He has a poop thing, man. Pressure and the results of his latest colonoscopy and that he takes a statin. I've got to see the doctor if he was my patient. They're good for a man of his age. The Trump campaign has yet to show reporters those two pages he handed to Dr. Oz.

41:56 In 2015, Trump tweeted, I have instructed my long time doctor to issue a full medical report. It will show perfection. But since then, all we've seen is this four paragraph letter. Trump's doctor, Harold Bornstein, declaring Trump quote, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. You know, they keep showing a picture of this guy with like long gray hair, like a hippie douche. Yeah, this is what Megan Kelly when she brings it up. Is that really his doctor? That's the guy? Yes. And Megan always says it's weird doctor. She always throws that in. Yeah, no kidding.

42:36 I think I probably picked up his kind of language and then just interpreted it to my own. Wait a minute, I lost the plot here. What did we switch to? Okay, well this is Yama Stros in a gratuitous clip of this weird doctor, which I'm going to call him. Oh, okay, I gotcha. Of him talking about how Trump came running in and said, I need a report. on my health and he says well the limo is still running it took him like 10 minutes he knocked this out. Oh perfect perfect. I think I probably picked up his kind of language and then just interpreted it to my own. Dr. Bornstein also performed Trump's physical exam last week. The campaign unclear on whether they will ever release a more complete medical history.

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

Hillary Clinton 9/11 Collapse, Pneumonia Diagnosis

Hillary Clinton abruptly departed a 9/11 memorial ceremony in New York City after appearing to collapse while boarding her motorcade. Video footage captured her being physically supported by staff as her feet dragged on the pavement. While her campaign initially cited "overheating" and later "pneumonia," media outlets like MSNBC were criticized for attributing the incident to "sweltering" 75-degree weather and Clinton's choice of clothing.

hillary clinton· 9/11 memorial· pneumonia· dehydration· msnbc· heat exhaustion· medical emergency

43:14 All right, so that's as balanced as you're going to get on the networks. And that again is, I believe, to be a pro-Trump report. But they have to balance it a little bit with a Hillary report following it. And this is actually This second clip, which is the latest ABC clip, this is the cutaway to Clinton. I cut this down a little bit because I think this is the point that they were making and it was just short and sweet. Sidelined with pneumonia, her doctor, Lisa Bardach, releasing a new detailed health summary saying Clinton's physical exam was quote normal and she is in excellent mental condition. Mental condition? I like condition.

43:54 When does that come up in the conversation? She's an excellent mental hygiene is the term you want to use her a mental hygiene is completely clean She's an excellent mental condition. I think which I guess was like I thought again. That was a negative Hillary yes, or it even though Yamas delivered it. I was like I agree yes ABC is a master of course there are Disney company yeah master propagandists. Oh, yeah, they're very good. They're very good All right, it's all yours. We're on to Hillary. Yes, I spent some time on the 9-11 collapse, not the building, but in free fall as well, Hillary Clinton, the rumors of body doubles. I really, really, really, really drilled down into this because this was irritating to me.

44:49 But, more interesting is how mainstream media played this. Now, I think everyone who's listening to our broadcast here has seen the video, has seen the two different versions of the video. Maybe we've even seen the one that was mirrored and reversed and looks like there's a whole different angle, which... It's just a mirror. Yeah. Although it is an interesting way to find more clues and more details. I thought it was interesting because it, and I'd gone back and forth and it was a mirror, even though Rush Limbaugh thought there was something rigged about it. He made a mistake. A lot of people didn't see how he, all you have to do is look for where that fence was. The fence was on one side, that was on the other. Where's the guy standing? He's over here, now he's over here. It's the same group of people, but it's for some reason, and I've not figured this out, I've looked at both of these side by side. The mirrored one, you see Hillary staggering better.

45:43 Yeah, well this is a known thing that you know if you need to draw something sometimes It's easier if you draw it upside down You know if you want to copy something you turn that upside down draw it upside down it turns out better I mean, this is the way the brain works it analyzes things differently. Yeah, it did definitely was a different Yes, the effect was different. It seemed as though it's two different colors the same clip no Now, I'll ask you, but I'm pretty sure everyone else who's seen this video, there is no doubt that Hillary collapsed. You can't see if she lost consciousness, but her entire body went slack and her toes, the top of her toes were dragging over the pavement, a shoe came off. So this woman was not

46:30 She was out. Yeah. Now, Brit Hume from Fox, I was going to read all these quotes to you, but he actually did the read and I think it's funnier when he does it. Brit Hume is, yeah, he's got the kind of the old grouchy newsman style. I like that. It comes across as very authoritative. I met him. Is he a cool guy? No. The douche? He is a, he's just like he is on television. He wears reading glasses and when he talks to you he drops his face and looks down into the glasses at you. Down his nose, yeah. At you, yeah. Yeah, he looks down his nose. Wait, he's that tall? You're 6'2".

47:09 He's no he I'm talking when he was seated. I was talking to you a seat I wasn't standing in the chat with him all right He was seated and he would drop his his glasses and drop his nose and look like it and he Exactly what you see on television is him. He is that guy okay? Well, I liked his read of the headlines for the org the reporting on this from USA Today Wall Street Journal in New York Times without a doubt three print publications that are the big ones in the USA, right? There could be little doubt that only some help from her bodyguards kept Hillary Clinton from collapsing to the pavement as she boarded her motorcade outside that 9-11 event in New York yesterday. Some mainstream media outlets, however, didn't quite put it that way. USA Today said only that she, quote, quickly departed. The Wall Street Journal said she was, quote, looking wobbly. The New York Times did manage to say she had, quote, had to be helped into a van. That's unbelievable.

48:11 Everyone who saw that video knows that none of those descriptions are accurate. Well, they've even gone further than that. I mean, there's a number of theories. Well, before we get into all theories, okay? We know what the official word is. Let me see which one I'm going to grab here. Okay, so and by the way to back up a little bit and talk about would these news outlets not reporting correctly Big news there none of them were there and I think there were I think and I put this I pointed this out in the newsletter for people who don't get the newsletter they should get the newsletter there was the guy who who was there recording this and

49:01 Where was everybody else? Hillary was at the event, she was called off by her escorts and nobody followed them? Well, the press apparently was distracted, kept in a certain spot by staffers. And they were shielded and they didn't know about this and the press are pretty angry that they didn't know anything that was going on for I think 90 minutes is their number. Some freelancer just happens to be standing around the pickup spot and he says, oh, here we go. Let me take a movie of this and see what happens. Exactly. Unbelievable to me. And it's a great piece of video. I've seen it forwards, backwards, zoomed in, everything. And I have thoughts on that coming up. But first, the immediate response from the mainstream media and my favorite, of course, is MSNBC. Whenever something crazy happens, I like going there first. It's the best. Now this is long. We can just stop whenever you've heard enough of it. But this is MSNBC.

50:01 pretty much saying, oh well you know this is this is it was warm, it was muggy, it was a very hot day, which it was not. It was it was unseasonably, well not even unseasonably, it was it was nice and cool. But let's listen to this MSNBC. Of course the big story today has been the fact that Secretary Clinton left rather unceremoniously having become overheated. We should say the weather has been horrific. Very hot, extremely humid temperatures. She was adorned in a long sleeved coat, a pantsuit. And so what we will see here now is her getting into the car.

50:36 She was a little bit unstable there. She was a little bit wobbly. That's I think an appropriate word to use. She could say the same words, the same talking points wobbly right there again. She had become overheated. I couldn't even wear what I'm wearing now to be appropriately dressed to anchor a broadcast. This pissed Tina off to no end. She's like, I could not believe these women saying this. Oh, but you know, I even get woozy. Woozy when I have long sleeves on I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt when I came in early this morning It was that horrible that weather she has an unbelievably challenging taxing schedule that would be so physically for anybody right let alone somebody Who's who's her age and frankly standing for a long period of time there is you know something that

51:21 fainting reflex that's called basal vagal sync syncope which is not a days of Vegas syncope what this is now now we're doctors in common with that excessive heat if she didn't eat enough that morning or well enough that morning oh she didn't eat enough it could happen to anybody that doesn't seem likely could happen to anybody I know there are plenty of days that I will drink coffee and a fair amount of it I might in the early mornings to get going and then if you don't eat properly that can set you off. Oh yeah I've seen her faint on the news desk all the time. It can set you off. Kids have been spinning up theories that she's not in fact in good health. It is a rare occurrence that you and I discuss fashion when we're talking about politics. Oh fashion! Looking at what you are wearing, you've got short sleeves on,

52:03 I can tell it's a light material. That is in direct contrast to what it appears Secretary Clinton was wearing. That blouse might even be a long-sleeved blouse. I mean, put into perspective this weather out there, and if that's what she's wearing, I mean, that's just horribly uncomfortable. Oh my goodness. John, I hate it when that happens. I feel so uncomfortable. That's a good point and you know it was the start of the day the sun beating down the sun beating down other folks who were there at the 9-11 memorial they also say that it was pretty hot there. Pretty hot! She's in a dark suit, dark sleeve. It's not the kind of thing that you want to be wearing any inappropriate attire so absolutely appropriate for the event. You want to hear more? It's a little bit longer still but if

52:50 Well, I get the point. I want to follow up after this, but that I think fits into what you're doing here. But well, let's do that. This is pathetic. Well, here's the Fox, this is short, the Fox News guy who lives in New York. It was really a contrast for it in terms of on MSNBC, they were talking about sweltering weather in New York being a factor in Hillary Clinton possibly being overheated. I live in New York. It was 75 degrees at the time, low humidity, considerable breeze, but that was the spin from there. CNN, on the other hand, waited to go with the story and then when they finally did, they were chalking it up to conspiracy theory and saying that probably nothing

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

Media Coverage Bias, CBS News Edit Controversy

CBS News faced criticism for editing an interview between Charlie Rose and Bill Clinton regarding Hillary Clinton's health episodes. In the original footage, Bill Clinton stated such collapses happened "frequently," before correcting himself to "rarely"; however, the aired version removed the word "frequently" entirely. The hosts argue this represents a blatant cover-up by the network to protect the Democratic nominee's image.

cbs news· bill clinton· charlie rose· media bias· edit· dehydration· health

52:03 I can tell it's a light material. That is in direct contrast to what it appears Secretary Clinton was wearing. That blouse might even be a long-sleeved blouse. I mean, put into perspective this weather out there, and if that's what she's wearing, I mean, that's just horribly uncomfortable. Oh my goodness. John, I hate it when that happens. I feel so uncomfortable. That's a good point and you know it was the start of the day the sun beating down the sun beating down other folks who were there at the 9-11 memorial they also say that it was pretty hot there. Pretty hot! She's in a dark suit, dark sleeve. It's not the kind of thing that you want to be wearing any inappropriate attire so absolutely appropriate for the event. You want to hear more? It's a little bit longer still but if

52:50 Well, I get the point. I want to follow up after this, but that I think fits into what you're doing here. But well, let's do that. This is pathetic. Well, here's the Fox, this is short, the Fox News guy who lives in New York. It was really a contrast for it in terms of on MSNBC, they were talking about sweltering weather in New York being a factor in Hillary Clinton possibly being overheated. I live in New York. It was 75 degrees at the time, low humidity, considerable breeze, but that was the spin from there. CNN, on the other hand, waited to go with the story and then when they finally did, they were chalking it up to conspiracy theory and saying that probably nothing

53:27 much ado about nothing here. Yeah. Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory. What do you have? And there's no, and these guys are not coordinating any of this stuff as you can witness by this great little clip that one of the online publications put together. I call it the power, the power. No, no, no. Stop. I know exactly what that is. We'll do it in a moment. It fits in somewhere else. Okay. Yeah, it fits in somewhere else. Okay. I fit in perfectly. Yeah, no, no, it'll fit in even better. Trust me. Okay. Okay. Cool. All right now. Um, so there's a lot of conversations, a lot of discussion. Sanjay Gupta got rolled out very, very, um, tepid. It's like, well, you know, I need a lot actually in the power clip too, but go on.

54:13 You know, I really need a lot more information. Not really totally sure. Gloria Borger, who I do like, she seems to have no elitist ties to anybody. I have no idea. She just, I know, she only just acts like one. Yes, exactly. She must be married to someone. She must come from a family. She must be wealthy. No, none of that. So she was there and she agreed with Sanjay and here's this little clip from her where there was a little phrase here that I liked. It was another two page letter like the two page letter we already had. I'm with the doctor here. I think we don't know a lot more than we knew. And I think that for those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories. For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories because the conspiracy theory is from conspiracy theorists. Those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton's health. And for those who say she's healthy...

55:11 Is this a new clip? Yeah. Because I distinctly remember, and I don't know if it was her or not, somebody else using the same phraseology. Those that believe in conspiracy. Do you remember this? It was some time ago. Those who believe in conspiracies will always believe in conspiracies because they believe in conspiracies. Let me see. Hold on a second. I don't know if you could find it. It would be impossible. That would be I'd give you ten points if you could find that clip But that wasn't that was like a year or more ago the same and it was on I believe it was on CNN because they just NPR social science correspondent Shankar Vedanta muffin drops by with juicy new research. He's here with us again Shankar what's on your mind? I want to talk about conspiracy theories today David Okay And this is everything from whether the US government was secretly behind the 9-11 attacks to where the President Obama was actually born this I think this is one of your clips isn't it or is this one of my clips?

56:02 It seems like one of my United States what proportion of the US population would you say? Subscribes to one of these theories 10 15 percent me now. I got it's a long clip I don't want to mess around with that, but I will look at go back to your point The point is that this is a meme is what I'm yes about Hillary Clinton's health And for those who say she's healthy, she's healthy. I don't think we didn't go back to 2012, learn more about what actually happened to her when she had the big incident in the fall. Gloria, the big incident. That's where she fell in the in her home. This is not why didn't she? Why do we keep talking about? But why doesn't she say that? Why she said the big incident?

56:46 Plane crash sounds more like a big incident than tripping and falling. That's my point. She's talking about a big incident. No, I know that's your point. I'm just I'm just being sarcastic. Ah, gotcha. OK, but now we have most people. This was Fox was airing this. Everybody had this. Bill Clinton goes on CBS with Charlie Rose and explains about these episodes that she's had. Look at that collapse, that video that was taken. You wonder if it's not more serious than dehydration. Well, if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors because it's frequently, not frequently, I think, rarely, but on more than one occasion over the last many, many years,

57:30 The same sort of things happened to her when she just got severely dehydrated. All right, so Bill corrects himself and says, he says, no, not frequently, not frequently. So this is how this segment aired later in the day on CBS. She's been, well, if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors, rarely, but on more than one occasion over the last many, many years. Yeah, they edited out the frequently take. The edit did that out. Let's start over and do that one again. Now I knew about this but I'm actually not... that's funny you got it. I didn't go back to to get this side by side clip but let's play those again just so we can re-emphasize what happened here. Look at that collapse, that video that was taken.

58:18 You wonder if it's not more serious than dehydration. She's been, well if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors because it's frequently, not frequently, rarely but on more than one occasion. He corrects frequently and turns it into rarely. Here's the edit. She's been, well if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors. Rarely but on more than one occasion. Ruh-roh! Does anybody think that they can get away with this? So CBS was called to account and their explanation was it was edited for time constraints all three seconds. How about getting him off the show? That would be a great edit.

59:02 three seconds we had to take out for timing. That is blatant. That is not OK. And that is a cover up and it's a CBS of the networks. CBS is the most they're the worst. Yeah. And they're the worst on their in their morning show. They're the with you know, they got I think one of the best looking women on the on this morning shows. No, it's not to have one good looking one. I actually say ABC's got a nice woman to be pleasant because you wake up in the morning. We owe this kid's pretty. Just turns, turns just sour when she talks about Trump. Their news show is absolutely just a conduit for the government and everything, all the messaging that goes on in their programming, everything CBS is absolutely all in, at least at the moment, but they can switch it to the drop of a hat. LeanerReport.com everybody.

1:00:00 Lena report me discussing some of this right um and Charlie Rose is like the go-to guy of course on all this stuff He's our morning show. He's on the night show. He's on the new desperate substitute. You got Ellie He's got his own show on PBS this guy He must be making a fortune at this point. I know he never was before, but now he's with his association with CBS. He's making millions and millions of dollars, but he's working himself to death. He should just quit. Well, let him do what he wants to do. So with all this speculation out there, what do you do? What you got to do is you got to go to the guy you trust the most to bring you the story and play along with the game. There's only one. You know who it is.

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

Power Through It, Hillary Clinton Media Narrative

Following her medical incident, Hillary Clinton told Anderson Cooper in a phone interview that she simply tried to "power through" her illness. A media montage reveals that numerous news anchors and pundits used the exact phrase "power through" simultaneously, suggesting a coordinated messaging strategy from the campaign. The discussion touches on the gendered nature of this narrative, framing the candidate's health struggles as a relatable maternal trait.

hillary clinton· anderson cooper· power through· media montage· messaging· pneumonia

1:00:46 Clooney? No, if you, if Hillary Clinton wants to pass on messages unedited on television, on the telescreens, who are you gonna call? Not Clooney. Who? Pooper! Oh, yeah, of course. So she calls into Pooper for like an eight minute call and there's some important clips here. Thank you very much for calling in. There's a lot of folks who are very worried about you. How are you feeling? Oh, thank you, Anderson. I'm feeling so much better and obviously I should have gotten some rest sooner. I probably would have been better off if I had just pulled down my schedule on Friday but like a lot of people I just thought I could keep going forward and power through it and obviously that didn't work out so well. There it is! She made a determination with her doctor that she would power through this. She made a decision to just power through this. We've decided to power through sometimes. Just power through this. Continue to power through. This is all the mainstream media.

1:01:43 This is actually before the Pooper interview when this power through it, power through this thing came out. Nice montage. She tried to power through it. She decided to power through it. Well, you know Brooke, she just wanted to power through. She just wanted to power through her schedule. So she wanted to just power through and keep doing it. I appreciate all of her desire to power through. To power through and get things done. She tried to power through it. It was Hillary Clinton's decision essentially to power through the candidate who famously wants to power through these things. She's going to try and power through. We say when you get a call just power through, power through. They thought she could power through. They thought she could power through. They thought that she could power through it. Wants to power through things. That too, the powering through. Governor Jennifer Granholm said women just power through these things and I get it. I try to power through all my illnesses. Hillary Clinton had a very busy day on Friday and she powered through that day. Yeah, she powered through.

1:02:39 Man, I love that clip. That was the most sexist thing that Granholm said. Yeah, but women do this all the time. I've powered through so many personal things. On this very show, I've powered through stuff. What a bull crap. Mothers, mothers power through it. So let's, and that was associative. Here the thing is, let's remind everyone she's a woman. Okay, we've got that done a couple of times. And she's powering through like a good woman would do. Like a good woman. And then she's also powering through like a good mother would do. So this is very subconscious messaging that is extremely insulting.

1:03:28 And who are they kidding? Yeah, it is truly, truly... Staggering up, like the one thing, like the Fox guy had the letter from Colin Powell talking about her staggering up, barely, he says, she looks beat! Staggering up the stairs, that's not powering through. If she jogged up the stairs, that would be powering through. Okay, the difference between men and women? Women power through men plow through you watch you watch I don't think so. Okay, I Will put that down as a no that's not gonna have that we're not gonna see I don't know what they're gonna do that this power through thing is and that clip was just put together by the Washington beacon yeah, I think was

1:04:11 I believe it may have been put to by Jimmy Kimmel in the beginning who knows I mean he said actually now Washington free now Washington free beacon does this they do a lot of these super cuts so we have like Once it's revealed where I like these sort of medleys is what once they're revealed It shows you you now you're on the lookout for him. I mean we do that on our show Well, you're going to hear her say this several more times in this very interview She is really pushing this one the power through Here is part two of the pooper. This was somebody, this was instructions from a consultant. Yeah. Let's call it powering through. And everyone will get it. They'll feel it. They'll feel good. They'll feel good about her being a woman and a mother. And here's part two of the interview. Let me ask you, your husband said tonight in an interview with Charlie Rose, he said, quote, rarely on more than one occasion over the last... What? I don't think so, poop.

1:05:08 Wow. So he's just propagating the edit version. Rarely, rarely, not frequently, rarely. Let me ask you, your husband said tonight in an interview with Charlie Rose, he said, quote, rarely on more than one occasion over the last many, many years that he said, quote, Well, that is a partial quote, a misquote. That is not an actual... That's a misleading quote. Misleading quote, yes. Same sort of things happened to her, meaning you, when she got severely dehydrated. Can you say how many times over the course of the last, say, five years you've been dehydrated and gotten dizzy? I know you passed out, hit your head back in 2012. Gotten dizzy? Nobody said? What do you think he said?

1:05:48 Gotten busy? Dizzy. Oh, gotten dizzy. Dizzy, dizzy, dizzy. Dehydrated and gotten busy. Can we stop for one second and mention one thing that we had that I think is something somewhat pertinent? Hold on, we're stopping. John has something pertinent. We don't need the snarky guy in the control room to come in on us there. I'm sorry. She doesn't sweat. Yes, yes, because she's a reptile. She doesn't sweat at all. So she so none of this is she can't really dehydrate necessarily because you dehydrate from sweating and not drinking enough water. And she won't drink water, according to her staff, which you can bring that up in the conspiracy. Scott Adams had an interesting theory hypothesis he called it. And he says, this is not what I think is going on. But he says the hypothesis, he says, is an illness that he himself has.

1:06:39 which is prororisis. also known as shy bladder. So his hypothesis was that she has a shy bladder and that one might fit in with some other behaviors we've seen with her on the debate stage. And she can't, and so this apparently something that's genetic and then you cannot urinate while the people are around and you get into trouble if you're drinking water and then you can't urinate and then, you know, and so what you do is, or what Scott Adams says he does, is he purposely dehydrates himself to the, when he's doing speeches, which he doesn't do anymore since he started saying Trump might win. I have that story if we need it for the show. Go ahead. I have the Scott Adams speeches story.

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

Scott Adams, Shy Bladder Hypothesis

The hosts discuss a hypothesis from Dilbert creator Scott Adams regarding Hillary Clinton's health. Adams suggests she may suffer from paruresis, or "shy bladder," a condition that leads individuals to intentionally dehydrate themselves before public appearances to avoid needing a restroom. This theory is used to explain her frequent bouts of dehydration and her reluctance to drink water on the campaign trail.

scott adams· dilbert· paruresis· shy bladder· dehydration· public speaking

1:05:48 Gotten busy? Dizzy. Oh, gotten dizzy. Dizzy, dizzy, dizzy. Dehydrated and gotten busy. Can we stop for one second and mention one thing that we had that I think is something somewhat pertinent? Hold on, we're stopping. John has something pertinent. We don't need the snarky guy in the control room to come in on us there. I'm sorry. She doesn't sweat. Yes, yes, because she's a reptile. She doesn't sweat at all. So she so none of this is she can't really dehydrate necessarily because you dehydrate from sweating and not drinking enough water. And she won't drink water, according to her staff, which you can bring that up in the conspiracy. Scott Adams had an interesting theory hypothesis he called it. And he says, this is not what I think is going on. But he says the hypothesis, he says, is an illness that he himself has.

1:06:39 which is prororisis. also known as shy bladder. So his hypothesis was that she has a shy bladder and that one might fit in with some other behaviors we've seen with her on the debate stage. And she can't, and so this apparently something that's genetic and then you cannot urinate while the people are around and you get into trouble if you're drinking water and then you can't urinate and then, you know, and so what you do is, or what Scott Adams says he does, is he purposely dehydrates himself to the, when he's doing speeches, which he doesn't do anymore since he started saying Trump might win. I have that story if we need it for the show. Go ahead. I have the Scott Adams speeches story.

1:07:25 When I first met him, he was early on in his career and he talked about wanting to do speeches. For everyone who doesn't know, Scott Adams is the cartoonist who draws Dilbert. And he's got a high profile on Twitter and he's doing a lot of analysis of this campaign. Of bias and confirmation bias and of what is he called persuasion. Yes, persuasion. He's a hypnotist. So he was, oh, speeches, that's what I want to do. And he made a big stink about it because I was doing speeches and you know, it was fun, kind of. And so he decided he wanted to do a lot of speech. So he got a booking agent, he booked a bunch of speeches. I ran into him on one of the speeches, I did some tour, every so often you run into the craziest people because they're also on the same venue as you are. And so he quit very shortly after this, I think this one speech.

1:08:15 Because this was happening too often. He'd go out and give one of his speeches, which he's a very dry sense of humor. And he's funny. He's a funny guy, but he's extremely dry and extremely cutting. and he got one too many of the after the speech meetings. Well, you know, our PR people have listened to the speech and we felt that you were a little harsh because we are a company run with a CEO and to just... This is the people that paid him to do the speech? Yes. Oh boy. So anytime that you do a speech, you get postmortemed by the people who paid you. And oftentimes you get these people

1:08:54 You know, and it's always a lowling, it's always underling. Could you please go talk to him, tell him that we didn't really appreciate all of that? We didn't appreciate the humor that he, his humor was a little too close to home and we didn't really appreciate it, it was too biting. And so he got, I guess he got chewed out one too many times. in a kind and gentle way, because they don't chew you out, they don't yell at you. And it's really annoying. And so he just says, screw this, I'm not doing speeches anymore. He was an idealist. And his little periscope thing in the morning, he said, well, you know, this could have been shy bladder. Anyway, that's just something to know. Let me ask you, your husband said tonight in an interview with Charlie Rose, he said, quote, rarely on more than one occasion over the last many, many years, the same sort of things happened to her, meaning you, when she got severely dehydrated. Can you say how many times over the course of the last, say, five years you've been dehydrated and gotten dizzy? I know you passed out, hit your head back in 2012. It sounds like he said busy.

CHAPTER 11 / 29 Discussion

Pathological Lying Allegations, Chuck Schumer Pneumonia

Hillary Clinton's explanation for her cough—initially blamed on allergies and later on pneumonia—is scrutinized for inconsistencies. She claimed that Senator Chuck Schumer also recently had pneumonia, suggesting a viral infection was "going around" the political circle. The hosts analyze her language for "fuzzy terms" that they believe indicate a pattern of pathological lying regarding her true medical condition.

hillary clinton· chuck schumer· pneumonia· pathological liar· allergies· medical records

1:09:59 I think he's dizzy. Back in 2012 which led to the concussion, how often- A little more. Just for you. Hit your head back in 2012 which led to the concussion- Oh fuck me. Never mind, forget it. Five years you've been dehydrated and gotten dizzy, I know you- Yeah, it sounds like busy but I- He said busy! I'm sure he means dizzy. We know what he passed out hit your head back in 2012 which led to the concussion how often has this happened? Oh, I think really only twice now We have to listen very closely because I am now convinced that she's a pathological liar And we'll find out why I'm convinced of this now well I've always been convinced of it no, but this this goes deep with me this goes deep pathological lies goes deep with the pathological liar and

1:10:45 And so there's a lot of fuzzy terms and words she throws in there, and you know, as I can recall, and all these types of terms. But of course, in complete contradiction to her husband, who said frequently and then, you know, kind of fuzzy that up. I can recall. Yeah, well you were out cold maybe you can't recall. You know it is something that has occurred a few times over the course of my life. So it's a few, is that two? That would be a couple or a few, is it more? So this has occurred a few times and I'm going to presume that she's talking about her complete

1:11:21 her body going slack and having to be dragged. She's aware of it, okay. What is this condition? incredibly committed to being at the memorial and senator on nine eleven this is incredibly personal to me and i could you'll feel how hot and humid it was i'd overheated i decided that i did need to leave and as soon as i got into the air-conditioned van i pulled off i got some water and very quickly uh... i felt better so

1:11:59 I felt fine, but I'm now taking my doctor's advice, which was given to me on Friday that I ignored, to just take some time to get over pneumonia completely. You know, a lot of people have obviously seen the video of you being helped into the vaccine. That's the next clip. Okay, so there she is. saying, well, you know, I just needed some help. But once I was in the van, I had some water, the air conditioner, it was great, felt perfect. And, you know, but this is, I don't understand her comment, which is, this is something I'm aware of. This is not something that has showed up in the doctor report, some condition that has her fainting a lot.

1:12:35 in her life. That's very odd. So let's go to the next. Pooper, of course, follows up appropriately. Did you actually faint? Did you actually pass out or lose consciousness? No, I didn't. I felt dizzy and I did lose my balance for a minute. That's not what I saw. Did you see that? She just lost her balance, John. Was that your experience? I thought she was going to collapse. She did collapse. It was an actual collapse. Okay. Or lose consciousness. I mean, I thought she was going to collapse before they even moved her. She was falling to the side. Right. So he is saying, did you lose consciousness? Now we can't tell, but it sure looked like she was pretty unconsciously faint. Did you actually pass out or lose consciousness? No, I didn't. I felt dizzy and I

1:13:23 And I did lose my balance for a minute. But once I got in, once I could sit down, once I could cool off, once I had some water, I immediately started feeling better. And my daughter lives nearby, so I went over to her apartment and spent time with her and my grandchildren, which is the best medicine for anything in my life. Okay, we're going to get to that in a moment. But now we go to... The original cover story was very interesting as everyone started jumping up and saying, well, you know, um, yeah, I wasn't feeling well. Yeah, I was, I felt, you know, I hadn't been to Melania. All her staff was like, oh, there's been something going around. You know, she's not the only one.

1:14:07 Different staffers, I think Robbie Mook even said that. Oh man, I wasn't feeling good, I was out for a week. So everyone's covering, including... A lot has been made over the course of the last week or so about the cough you've been struggling with. You blamed it on allergies, joked at one point you were allergic to Donald Trump. Was that cough actually pneumonia related and not in fact allergy related? Well, it sure seemed like it was an allergy because I've had allergies, seasonal allergies off and on. And it does come with a cough. You know, I've got lots of examples of, you know, in the spring and in the fall, getting a bit of a coughing fit and then it dissipates. What happened this time though was it didn't dissipate and that's why when I got off the road on Friday, I did go to see my doctor and that's when I was diagnosed with pneumonia.

1:14:55 And the funniest thing that happened to me on Sunday, wasn't a funny day after all, but this was kind of humorous. I got to the memorial, I saw my friend and former colleague Chuck Schumer, and the first thing he said to me is, I've had pneumonia, and I've been resting for five days. And I looked at him and he said, you know, that's so funny, I've just been told I have pneumonia. So apparently there's something to this that's going around. all that i've been and contacted by a number of people who've told me they have had it they've gotten over it All right, so this would mean, the way she's saying it, this would mean it's a viral infection, that people are getting this, there's something to it. No, if she took antibiotics for a viral infection, that would be some sort of a medical violation. It has to be a regular pneumonia from bacteria. Okay, so... Nobody ever said viral pneumonia. She's taking antibiotics, so it has to be... But what she's saying is a number of people,

1:15:51 But were ill, Chuck Schumer had pneumonia. So apparently there's something to this. There's something going around that makes no sense in even our simple medical analysis. Here's Chuck Schumer. Fantastic. And New York Senator Chuck Schumer says he too recently had pneumonia but recovered quickly with rest and a lighter schedule. Donald Trump wished her well. All right. So that was a that was out there. Oh, Chuck Schumer. Oh, I had it too. By the way, the way Chuck Schumer looked at her, I looked at all the pictures. I mean it really looked like he was happy she's going to die. That's the look he had on his face. Okay, so, the thing that... Go ahead. I didn't see that, but go on. It's a funny comment. So she gets into the van, and I've been looking at this video a million times.

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

Christine Falvo, Rubenstein Agency Connections

Analysis of the 9/11 collapse video identifies a woman assisting Hillary Clinton as Christine Falvo, the Chief Operating Officer of the Rubenstein PR agency. Contrary to internet rumors that she was a neurological nurse, Falvo is a longtime Clinton aide and friend. The discussion highlights the connections of the Rubenstein agency to high-profile figures like Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump, framing Falvo's presence as that of a concerned personal confidante rather than a medical professional.

christine falvo· howard rubenstein· hillary clinton· secret service· 9/11 memorial· pr agency

1:16:48 Okay, there are really only four Secret Service agents. All the other people are her personal security detail who drive the van. These are not Secret Service guys. If you look at this video and you really focus, the Secret Service guys look like Secret Service guys. They got, you know, the drab suit on, they got the black tie, even the women. And there's four of them and they are protecting her getting into the car. They're not helping her, no. There's a guy with a big loud striped tie. That is not Secret Service, okay? And the bald guy? That is also not Secret Service. You can even see their pins. They do not have Secret Service pins, they have little shields. So I think they're probably off-duty cops or something like that.

1:17:35 And don't forget to mention the big black guy who walks around with the syringe. He's always right within three feet of her. Now, what we initially thought was her nurse... Is not her nurse. This is the chief operating officer of The Rubinstein agency, and I'm sure you know the Rubinstein agency. I don't know the Rubinstein agency ah the Rubinstein agency is I think it's what is it near his is a David Rubinstein. Let me find out a Howard Rubinstein Howard Rubinstein is This guy is the connector in New York City and

1:18:14 In fact, I have a pretty good article here. So he's a PR agent and to be the chief operating officer of a PR agency is not really a big deal when it's really about one guy. His clients, George Steinbrenner, Rupert Murdoch, Donald Trump, Ron Perlman, Larry Silverstein, Leonard Lauder, Michael Bloomberg, Charles Kushner, Jerry Spier, Dan Tishman, who else? Ed Koch, Chuck Schumer. He's a connector. In fact, this is very interesting when you know that the the connections here. His firm, for example, simultaneously represented the Tobacco Institute and the Cancer Hospital, and he represented both Leona Helmsley and Donald Trump when the two were publicly sparring. And there was an... Here it is.

1:19:01 It was Rubenstein who found a suitable rental for longtime client Rupert Murdoch while his $44 million Fifth Avenue apartment was under renovation. He dialed up another client, Donald Trump, who was more than happy to help out. He also negotiated the pact between Murdoch and Mord Zuckerman. So this guy is a real connector and PR. Now, was she, was this woman, is Christine, F-Falvo. F-A-L-V-O. Now is this the woman that was holding Hillary's fingers? Yes, yes, yes, that is the woman. Okay. There was, oh this is her nurse and this is a neurological check. No, that is not true. That is not true. What was she doing? Well, she was accompanying her. First of all, no one, okay let me back up. I 100% believe

1:19:50 Hillary Clinton wanted to be there. It was a personal issue for her. She wanted to be at the ceremony. She was of course wearing these nutty blue glasses, which are Zeiss Z1 lenses. Which are you can see I've been in the show notes. I have pictures It is literally the same glasses the same round lenses everything the same blue which are marketed specifically for people with epilepsy or other seizures seizures yeah, if a seizure will trigger something so that so this really was her really being there really wanting to do this even though she knew she was not feeling well enough to do it and

1:20:30 And this woman, Christine Falbo, she worked for Clinton several times throughout her career. In fact, she came out of school and then was an aide, a staffer, and then she went on to become first just staff at the PR agency, and now she's the chief operating officer. So, I believe she is actually a friend. I don't see any nefarious connections with Rubenstein necessarily, but I gave you the information because I think it's important. Okay, I think that you're probably correct with this analysis. Okay. So she's a real friend and no one else wanted to go with her. Huma didn't want to go. She wants to stay out of the limelight. Bill can't stand the heat, that's true. So, she was long as a friend, a very concerned friend. In fact, when you see her walking, you've seen the picture, and she's holding her arm

1:21:18 To me that was more like a motherly thing, not necessarily stabilizing her, although that may be part of it. But it's like, you know, I know it's bad and it's rough and it's a bad day. I'm sure she was personally affected by 9-11, maybe because everyone had something to do with it. I don't know. But she was feeling bad about it. Good. So then we see this video, we see all these things. She's in the van and she goes to her daughter's house and comes out. Now, this was a very, very irritating scene to me. And it took me a long time to figure it out. Because everyone's like, it's a body double! That's not her! Oh, look at her, doesn't even look like her! Very different ass! Everything's- what?

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Body Double, Purse Shoulder Theory

A theory is presented suggesting a body double was used when Hillary Clinton emerged from Chelsea Clinton's apartment following her collapse. The primary evidence cited is the placement of her handbag; the woman in the video carried her purse on her right shoulder, whereas Hillary Clinton is historically a left-shoulder purse bearer. The hosts also note the lack of a standard Secret Service perimeter during this specific appearance as further proof of a staged event.

hillary clinton· body double· conspiracy theory· secret service· fashion· chelsea clinton

1:21:59 She's wearing black. Yeah. Well, let me let me mention a couple of things. She came out of that building. I mean, why was the Secret Service already positioned out there? I'm going to reveal all perimeter. Okay, good. Well, So let's just stick with the body double for a second. This is, you know, these are the conspiracy theories I've learned to, you know, to be careful with. You know, it's like you're seeing video, you're seeing pictures that's very hard, you know, oh, her middle finger is longer than the real Hillary's middle finger. You know, the other thing I noticed is there's a lot of comparisons with a re-aspect ratioed video showing her, she's like, it looks like she's 130 pounds in one of them.

1:22:43 Now, Tina, the keeper, She said, ah, this is not the same woman. And women look at women differently, I think. And she said, no, this is, she has a, I can see the bottom half is different. I said, well, I really don't know. Cause you know what you said, you know, aspect ratios, angle, there's a million things that could, what lens was used. It could be Photoshop, a million things. A million things that could disprove that. And it's really, you know, you really need a little more conclusive proof. So I believe it was a body double. I'm going to tell you why. And I am thoroughly convinced of this and I have my own evidence.

1:23:21 First of all, the reason why she comes out and there's no secret service is because it wasn't Hillary Clinton. So that's easy. The child who was pushed up to take a picture staged. Again, no secret service. It was not Hillary Clinton. Okay, now I want to stop you. Okay. There was plenty of secret service. Nope. No, no, no. Not when she when she walked out of the door into the van. There was no secret service, John. And I want you to go to CBD.grumpyradio.com CBD as in Clinton body double dot grumpy radio.com. Okay, a chat room you can play along. CBD dot grumpy radio.com. You come up with something shorter. No, just

1:24:11 Type it. Type it out. Server not found. Then you didn't do it right. Obviously. Try it again. Alright, let me just see. CBD. I can just send you the link if that's gonna help. Grumpy. Grumpy. Radio. Radio. Dot com. Alrighty. You there? You know, I still get server not found. There must be something different. Okay, send me the link. I'm going to send it to you right now in the sky. I need to hear about this reflection. Oh, there it is. Clinton body double. Ah, you got it. Okay. Now, what you see here, let's take a look at this picture. Because the proof that this is not Hillary Clinton is in plain sight.

1:24:54 Plain sight and I actually down below. I have all do you see also have pictures of her at the 9-11? You see that there's a there's Christine And she's holding on to her fingers, and you see her there walking right behind Christine Falwell you see those right Okay, all right now the picture the first two pictures on this page you see Hillary with the dude and then to her to other dudes. These are not Secret Service, John. Okay, you're saying they're her personal guys. Yes. Look at the tie. There's no way. There's no way Secret Service does not wear that tie. And look at the pin. It is not a Secret Service pin.

1:25:29 Now now down below by that they're not that's because I was very befuddled by the fact that they wouldn't walking out because those guys Hang close. Yeah, no no, they're off They're off to the side when they're walking along with their way off to the side yeah But they're coming out with the with the woman, but the baldy guy is also not Secret Service. Oh Notice the pin, wrong pin. Notice no earpiece. That's not Secret Service, these guys. And look at the tie, wrong tie. This is not how Secret Service look. Go back at the video, you'll see there are four Secret Service agents and that's it. Okay. So I grew up with women. I love women's clothing. I love women's fashion. I love shopping with women. Somebody make a clip of that for me, please.

1:26:16 I'll write it down for you even. I'm not ashamed. I'm not ashamed. I love women's clothing. I do. It's so much more comfortable. No, I don't wear it. I like, I like. Oh, you confused me. Okay. So I've grown up with women. All my life. I know behavior. I think I'm an expert. I have some standing. Okay, okay. We're giving you the credit for that. You got standing. Now take a look at Hillary's pictures, the two bottom ones and then the two top ones and tell me if you can spot the difference. Besides the fact that her hand's way up in the air? Yeah, that's not it. Okay, well, so we don't belabor the point. What is the difference? Oh, wait a minute. I see one difference. Okay.

1:27:03 She's got her purse on the other side. You fucking nailed it. Women do not switch shoulders for their shoulder bag. Never. They do not switch. They carry it on one side. It's comfortable. That's what they do. And you show me a picture of Hillary Clinton not wearing her purse or even holding her purse in her left hand. Except one picture I found where she's walking next to Obama. So when you come out and you're all comfortable and feeling great and you've got the purse on your non-comfortable side, that's the proof. That is not Hillary Clinton. No woman does that. I stake my reputation on it.

1:27:44 That's a good one. I give you one point for that. One point. I would have normally given you 10 points, but you're so cheap with points to me, I'm only giving you one. All right, I'll take one. And that, and so now, here's the deal, people. Do not tweet this. Be quiet about this. This is the no agenda secret. If it gets out there, she'll start doing it. She'll start wearing on the right side. This is our tell. This is how we know when it's not the real Clinton. Well, the thing that made me think, I mean, when I saw that the woman, uh,

1:28:22 I just thought that the smile was wrong. Oh, the teeth work is different, but all of that is, you know, you can argue that until the cows come home. Yeah, no. First on the other side, I want women to say, oh no, I switch all the time. I bet you maybe it's 1% of women who do that. Hillary Clinton is a left shoulder, left hand purse wearer bearer. That's who she is. That doesn't change. Every photo, every photo. Good one. This is, this is, you would have been a good analyst for the pickle factory. Who says I'm not? I say. So there for me is irrefutable proof. Please keep this amongst ourselves. Please.

1:29:10 If this gets out far and wide then... There's other tells that we'll figure out. But this is... No one's gonna be able to keep this a secret. This is a beautiful tell. This is a great... It's good though. I gave you already the one blown point. Man, you're harsh. Yes, very. From now on... Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Where the C stands for Clinton body double Dvorak. Well in the morning you Mr. Adam Curry good finish I'm In the morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and in the morning to everyone in the chatroom No agenda stream calm good to have you all here in the morning to

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Barking Dog Imagery

The hosts review recent submissions to the No Agenda Art Generator, including a "Weekend at Bernie's" parody featuring George Soros and Goldman Sachs executives. They highlight a "barking dog" image used in the show's newsletter, credited to an artist named Cesium, noting its striking visual impact.

no agenda art· george soros· goldman sachs· newsletter· digital art· producers

1:29:57 Let's see, Sir Paul Couture, who actually set up, maintains and runs the NOAA Gender Art Generator. NOAAGenderArtGenerator.com. He came in with a piece. And yeah, he came up with not just the weekend at Bernie's, but he added a little extra dimension. As far as I'm concerned, we were one of the first people to do this. I saw other versions of it. And he photoshopped George Soros and Blank and fine from Goldman Sachs on to the guy's head who were holding her up. We thought that was pretty funny. It was good. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can submit and we appreciate the work that all our artists do. There is a lot of good stuff. I did use for the newsletter the barking dog.

1:30:44 Yeah, because I still think it's go back and if you had the thing open you could tell me who that artist was No, I didn't I think it was cesium or Mark maybe I don't know mark G or cesium one one at whatever the number is is cesium 137 128 well, I know it's 137 hold on let me see with the barking dog Let me see if I can find that one There's a lot of extra art that showed up. But I used it because that is one of the most striking images we've had for a long time and we couldn't use it for that particular show because there was something funnier but I really had to use it and so I put it on the newsletter. There was no new no boobla donation. Yes there was. Oh I didn't find it.

1:31:27 Yeah, funny. Yeah, there wasn't some people. All right, we'll talk about that later. First, let's get to with our executive and associate executive producers who help sponsor and make this show what it is. Yes. And we want to thank them profusely. Oh, yeah. Beginning with Pat the prick. I can't wait for this Pat the prick. Yeah, what does he have to say I have to go dig I've said fortunately I was listening to you. I didn't dig up his email But let's go from dig it up. Yeah, I I don't think I have one from him He sent it twice as a matter of fact Okay His name right

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremony

The first donation segment features a $1,111.11 contribution from "Pat the Prick," who requests a specific "shut up slave" jingle. Other significant donors include Steven Greif, who is dubbed "Knight of the Unfriendly Skies," and James Wallmacher, who funded his donation through professional "Magic: The Gathering" tournament winnings. Adam Curry shares an anecdote about his past as a pirate radio DJ in Amsterdam, where he used a persona as a 32-year-old Black man who rode a Harley.

donations· knighthood· pat the prick· karma· magic the gathering· moped· amsterdam

1:30:44 Yeah, because I still think it's go back and if you had the thing open you could tell me who that artist was No, I didn't I think it was cesium or Mark maybe I don't know mark G or cesium one one at whatever the number is is cesium 137 128 well, I know it's 137 hold on let me see with the barking dog Let me see if I can find that one There's a lot of extra art that showed up. But I used it because that is one of the most striking images we've had for a long time and we couldn't use it for that particular show because there was something funnier but I really had to use it and so I put it on the newsletter. There was no new no boobla donation. Yes there was. Oh I didn't find it.

1:31:27 Yeah, funny. Yeah, there wasn't some people. All right, we'll talk about that later. First, let's get to with our executive and associate executive producers who help sponsor and make this show what it is. Yes. And we want to thank them profusely. Oh, yeah. Beginning with Pat the prick. I can't wait for this Pat the prick. Yeah, what does he have to say I have to go dig I've said fortunately I was listening to you. I didn't dig up his email But let's go from dig it up. Yeah, I I don't think I have one from him He sent it twice as a matter of fact Okay His name right

1:32:09 There he is knighthood. Okay, I had knighthood. All right. Yeah, he's got this is a 100 1111 dollars Holy moly from Garden Grove, California Hey guys love the show I've been a fan of John C since the tech TV days and later when he was on that show with that guy I Got heavy into all of the people involved with tech TV during the middle and high middle and high school So he's in middle school in high school listening to That's your audience man. And Adam, since they're listening to No Agenda, I'm just as big a fan of you. Hey-o! Enough nostalgia. Life is hard for a while. I dropped out of it all to focus on college and surviving the move to a different state.

1:32:54 by myself, but recently things have slowed down and I was able to check in on what people I admire were doing. I ended up hitting myself in the mouth about four months ago and I have to say it's actually what I needed. Thank you for providing this much needed service. Oh wow. I have had the best job opportunities recently and I feel that no agenda is to thank for that. So I would, yes. And the reason for that is just to stop for a second is because we get you so you're not thinking like the masses. Like robots. You stand out from the crowd. Adam gives us a super long super crazy shut up say that's what he's asking for. I'm sorry. I'm sorry back I have had the best job opportunities in no agenda to thank for this So I'd like to give a jobs karma out to all listeners out there My only other request is that at the end of this donation segment Adam gives a super long super crazy shut up slave That is hilarious. Oh during the jingle, okay? And I said we'd like to be knighted sir Pat the prick and

1:33:57 I request Saki... Is he on the list as such? No, how could he be? And he wants to request Saki and Skanks. It's so acceptable. Keep up the fantastic good work, you old bastards. Hold on, hold on. Pat the prick. I'm writing it down. Pat the prick will be... Sir Pat the prick. And he needs a Saki and Skanks in there. Sake and skanks, okay, is that no? Sake and skanks nice nice edition nice edition. I don't know nice. It's just it's beautiful gruesome gruesome Thank you. I keep up the fantastic work you old bastards if you're ever in the LA area beers on me right on And then how the hell do I get my ring the link you provided a few shows ago went to nothing and

1:34:44 Noahjendonation.com slash rings and I'm gonna deduce him too. This is his first donation, correct? Yeah. Oh, sorry. You came a douche, but now you gotta dedouche. You've been dedouched. Well, you were confusing me. We'll dedouche him. Blame the co-host. Dedouche him twice. You've been dedouched. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. All right, thank you Pat the Brick to be knighted later on. You left one thing out. What I- no that's at the end of the segment he wants me to do that. I know what he wants. The shut up slave thing. I know what he wants. I know what he wants. All right, Vera... Let's see, this is Nekara Greif.

1:35:34 in Port Orchard, Washington. Happy birthday to my handler. Oops, I mean my husband, Steven, who turned 33 on September 14th. He has taught me so much, but most importantly, he hit me in the mouth three years ago, and I'm forever grateful. This contribution, along with my others, will give him knighthood status today. I don't even know if he's listed. Oh, yes, I guess he is. Yes, and you know what? I think I sent Eric a follow-up. There was a follow-up email because he found out about it, I believe. Hold on a second. I have to look at this now. But Eric didn't put that in. I hope it wasn't like a do an anonymous thing because that would suck. Let me see.

1:36:14 No, Stevie, it wouldn't be because you would have the pronunciation of her name in there. It has come to my attention. It's definitely not anonymous. It's come to my attention. My wonderful wife has made a substantial donation towards my knighthood. She gave away the spoiler on my birthday early this evening. I hit her in the mouth a few years ago and she saved me from a bout of serious douchebaggery and directed a few associate, associative, executive producerships my way. In the meantime, I can't say much about what it is I do for a living. But if I could be referred to as Knight of the Unfriendly Skies, I think you would get the reference. Did he say that? Eric put that in. Knight of the Unfriendly Skies. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, hold on a second. Let me see. I'm not going to try to deconstruct what he does for a living, but he's in Port Orchard, Washington. Yeah, where these people live doesn't matter where they work. I guess. Okay.

1:37:09 Anyway, we got him on the list. Karma needs a karma. I mean, these people need karma. Come on, karma. You've got karma. Karma karma. Do we have a ch... Okay, Night of the Unfriendly Skies. Okay. Next is Anonymous, who sent in a check for $333.33 with a little note on it that said, keep doing what you're doing. All right, thank you. We will do just that. It's just that simple. Joseph Amato in Northport, New York, 281-55. Love the show. I'm long overdue for a donation. We need you guys around to keep everyone honest. I guess there's no chance that Jesse Ventura would stand in for Hillary. I would love to hear the Clippity-Clop jingle from a few years ago in honor of Hillary or

1:37:54 or he says Hitler-y. I would like some karma from my buddy Donovan. Thanks for the, thanks for doing the reading and media clipping too so I don't have to. You don't have to read this part and he talks about his donation level. Okay, so he won Clippity Club. He got that and some karma. It's Clippity Club. The message is clear. Just Clippity Club. You've got karma. Chris Perry, 250 bucks. This is where both at the associate executive producer level here with Joe and Chris. 250 bucks parts unknown just top donations to become a knight. She's knight me as Sir Selvarin. Knight in exile. Exile from California. All right. Nice. Thank you. Also, here's an extra 250. Does he need a karma?

1:38:48 I just want to give everyone a karma today. It's good. You've got karma. Karma's on me. Clyde Perry. I mean, there's Chris Perry. Lauren Smudski in Pleasant Grove, California, $240. I do have the note, but the note is like a two, three page screen. It's pretty much war and peace, but, and he didn't expect it to be read because he actually sent a donation in pieces and he got to 240 because he also sent a bottle of wine. And I'm just giving him credit for that. And so he gets credit as an associate executive producer. He thinks the show is great. He is a independent, he's a farmer.

1:39:27 And he has all kinds of theories that we kind of have too. I may boil it down and read it as a separate item. I'm going to give him some farm karma then. Give him some farm karma. You've got karma. Not to be confused with pharma karma. That's something else. He did turn me on to a winery I didn't know anything about. Michael Spence, which is, you know, can happen. Michael Spencer in Atlanta, California, $233.33 for my birthday, 9-29. I've chosen to be supportive. Finally. So I've gone through an associate executive producer credit plus podcast license, gonna work my way up to knighthood. I would love to hear a Dvorak fave and a Curry fave combo. Thank you guys for all the hard work you do. What do you want?

1:40:14 Well, you know the one you know my favorite. I'll play it again cuz we haven't played it for a while is everyone share a secret I like that okay share secret comes to mind hmm. What should I I don't know what should I do? I don't know pick something I know I'm just you just push the button you got that big board of all these just push rent close your eyes and Push I'm still looking for the secret clip. What is going on here? Why can't I find the secret clip? Oh? Everybody join hands. We're not competitive. Everyone join hands and share a secret. Yeah, I know. Oh, here it is. Yeah, it's tell a secret, not share a secret. Tell a secret. And then let me see what I can get. Let me pull something out. Come on, just do it blindly. Come on. Okay, okay. Well, hold on. I'm going to do it blindly. I'll just, I won't look. I'm just going to pick something. And here's yours. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret.

1:41:12 You've got karma figured one of the last times we can play that since and then now become Bayer so They're gonna keep the brand don't kid yourself sir Tyler Fox and Munich Munchen Deutschland Bayern Munchen couldn't talk by and Munchen iron Mutian Munchen whoops In the morning looks like I'm missing the deadline for Sunday show But luckily that's not how no agenda karma works last time Adam Adam be guided a tactical job karma missile my way It was a direct hit The karma I need this time. Okay, I got it. The karma I need is worth the, this time is more important. Please send some karma to that sweet, sweet, sweet apartment hunting karma over to Munich. We discovered a massive mold growth. Most likely penicillium. Usually that's not what it is.

1:42:07 Growing through the wall directly behind that unless it's blue is if it's blue maybe but you see I had that in my house in New Jersey and there was just one piece of the wall probably about a foot in diameter there was just ill and You know you could do whatever it would just say we'll start to ooze and bubble. It was just very scary gook You've been constantly sick for three months, yes. And the doctors couldn't figure out why. Did you mention this? And now we know we have to get out of here ASAP as my wife is deathly allergic to penicillin, explaining why she's been much more sick than me. We found the perfect place, which is, you know, any of these moles will make you ill. Yeah, it's bad. Tell me about it. It's very difficult to grow penicillin on plaster. I think, I could be wrong. Somebody could send me a note telling me I'm full of it.

1:42:55 You need some karma to help keep the looming legal battle with our current landlord from screwing up getting a new place. I've also finally figured out why my baron name, I figured out my baron name, please dub me Sir Tyler Fox, Baron of the Middle Finger Erection. Bada boom! Yeah. I don't have a geography area I feel is home yet, so I can have an industry as my profession. No, no, as protectorate. Instead of an area, he wants an industry as his protectorate. Oh, he wants the industry. Okay, I'd like to have a business, aviation industry as my protectorate. Thank you for everything you guys do. Happy birthday to Adam, by the way. Thank you. Here is some non-mold awesome 133 square foot karma. You've got karma. For your apartment.

1:43:43 Okay, let's see if we have any email from whoa. Hey, whoa James Wallmacher wallmacher wallmacher W-o-h-l-m-a-c-h-e-r James Wallmacher donation note. Astonishing. Greetings gentlemen, I'm able to afford the donation of my recent success by the way guy Wallmacher gave us $200 for today's show of 860. They'd be associate executive producers in Pittston, New Jersey. I'm able to afford the donation be due to my recent success playing Magic the Gathering, the world's oldest and most popular trading card game. Okay, now I have to stop here.

1:44:30 JC, Buzzkill Jr. has a friend who is a professional magic player. Now, I don't know anything about this. Yeah, well, join the club. Let me finish what he says. Most popular trading card game. I've long enjoyed listening to the show while traveling to magic tournaments. This is another subculture. This is one of the many things that goes on in subcultures that we just don't know about. And after many years of practicing this hobby, finally turned, started to pay off for me. Now I can return the value I owe from countless hours of being entertained on the road, because he has to travel, keep up the good work. Now magic is, I don't even, I can't explain what it is. You can look it up in the Wikipedia. But this guy who's JC's, it's a brother of one of JC's best friends.

1:45:16 is a professional magic player. MAGIC, just as you, magic? Yeah, just like the word magic. And he is apparent, it sounds to me that he's making like a half million to a million dollars or something playing this game. Holy moly. But I gotta give up. And this is like some of these other games, there's these things, these subculture things and people, they have these tournaments and people flock to them. And I have no idea. I just had it explained to me a couple of times, anything about this. Oh, well that's easy. John at Dvorak dot org. Do not. Hey, I got a guy, I know the professional. He could explain it to me. I never bothered to ask. Okay. So no, I don't want any email.

1:46:03 But it's some crazy, crazy thing that is extremely popular and I guess somewhat addictive. But now we have another potential professional who's a No Agenda listener. Are there costumes involved for this game? No, no, this is something, this is not Dungeons & Dragons, this is not dress up, this is not cosplay. Magic the Gathering. Magic the Gathering, I'm told, is what it's really called. Magic the Gathering. That's the, yeah. I'll have to look this up. Sounds like another fun hobby. Sounds like something you should do. Anyway, that's how James gave us $200 and two cents just to make sure. And did he need anything like a karma or something? I think a karma for his magic plate's gotta go. Magic the Gathering karma for you, sir. You've got karma.

1:46:49 Alright, now we have, uh, I don't know what to do here. This is a guy in Pearl City, Hawaii. Hawaii of $200. Now, what does this say? No, that's who you just did. Now what? No, he's 202. That's James Wallmacher's 202 cents. He's Pittstown. Right, right. Yeah, okay. This guy has got a special note. John DeMoss. Or Jordan DeMoss. Gotcha. Okay, Jordan DeMoss. Oh, I understand. I get it, I get it, I get it. Okay, he's a 32-year-old black DJ. rides a Harley in Amsterdam. Why not? No, no. He says my real name is John Holden. I'm a 32 year old black DJ who rides a Harley in Amsterdam. That's all. Oh wait, one more thing. Jason David is a douchebag for not donating. Douchebag! Even though he's white people rich and knows he can afford it. And I can explain.

1:47:36 This is all stuff from the Night Attack show. I revealed my original DJ name when I was a pirate in Amsterdam and I had this persona. I was black, I was 32, rode a Harley, and my name was John Holden even though I was 17, geeky, and I rode a moped. I can see you on a moped. Theater of the mind, everybody. That's theater of the mind right there for you. Yeah. This thing won't stop. I drove a moped. I used to have a couple of motorcycles and I drove a moped once. What kind of moped? I thought it was the most dangerous vehicle ever. I ever put my butt on. It was unbelievable. It has gutless and

1:48:16 and couldn't stop. The thing with mopeds growing up in the Netherlands, you couldn't drive until you were 18. There's no driving when you're 16. And most people flunk the driving test at least once. It's very difficult to get a car. So when you're 16, you can ride a moped. And a moped is determined by a certain amount of horsepower, but specifically you can only have 50 cc's, or really 49.99 cc's the size of the engine. So we would... Change them out for 70 CC cylinders. We put huge carburetors on with big air ducts to suck it in I mean these things were going a hundred miles an hour is amazing. Yeah, very dangerous. I'm amazed I'm alive. Yeah, you could again kill it. Yeah. Oh, I'm amazed I'm alive. Yeah, well Anyway, although now that you we've admitted that you did You were a DJ in blackface

1:49:15 I don't know if anyone can trust you. Well, people kept calling up saying, hey, can I talk to the black DJ from America? I was like, okay. Were you doing a voice? No, it was just me. I was doing English. I was doing an English show in Holland. You weren't doing some sort of a Pastor Reverend Manning thing or anything? No. It's hard too hard to do that voice. No, I was just me and people thought I was black. Let me give a little karma there. As deserved. You've got karma. And I want to thank everybody for all our executive producers and associate executive producers. Very good list today. Thank you. This is exactly the kind of support we need. And I like the cross, the crossover support from, from Night Attack. Very good. Now you're talking some independent media right here, people.

1:50:04 Helping each other out doing the nasty. See there's my black scene You won't get the the analysis of Clinton's body double from that perspective. No way if he likes women's dresses, that's right Anywhere else that's right. I mean you will now yeah, well hopefully we can no no no just forget it It's done. These are real credits. You can use them anywhere credits are accepted Your LinkedIn profile seems to be a good place, and of course we'll be thanking everyone else who came in with $50 or above in our second donation segment. And we have another show coming up on Sunday. Please remember us at... And while you're keeping a secret about the body double, please be propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up! Shut up! Slave!

CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Presidential Succession, Koki Roberts Commentary

Media outlets and political commentators have begun discussing the legal process for replacing a presidential candidate should they withdraw or become incapacitated. Koki Roberts noted on NPR that Democrats are "nervously whispering" about finding a replacement for Hillary Clinton. Former DNC Chair Don Fowler publicly called for a contingency plan, though he later clarified he was not yet calling for an actual replacement.

koki roberts· dnc· presidential succession· amy goodman· don fowler· contingency plan

1:51:05 So, uh, what did Chelsea say when Hillary showed up at the apartment? I give up. What did she say? She said, Mom, who's this other woman? I saved one clip because I didn't want it to detract from what I feel is good analysis of the body double. Now, this could be fake. It's like ambient recording. The television is far away. It's very hard to hear, hard to see. But apparently this aired on WABC-TV in New York. Good evening, everyone. I'm Sandra Fawcett. And I'm George Morales. We begin with the breaking news about Hillary Clinton's death.

1:51:46 Oh yeah. Could you hear it? Yeah. You got the breaking news about Hillary Clinton's death. I don't know if that's true or not. There was a couple of, uh, apparently CNN had reported this too by accident. It was just one of these things that happened, some rumors. Right. But then we should at least finish off with a couple of the conspiracy theories that came out. But before we do that, I did want to say when I heard that clip, the first thing I thought was, to myself, hey self, what happens if a presidential candidate withdraws or dies before the election's over? How does that work? And I... Well, the DNC just picks anybody and put them in there. But wait, here's the interesting part. So I just decided to go Google that. The very same morning, Washington Post had done a huge deconstruction of what happens or how it works if a presidential candidate dies.

1:52:41 MSNBC also, same thing. Everyone's like, oh, well this is a... Now for that to come out on the same day as this takes place was a nice coincidence. And they were all talking about her dying? No, no. It's generic. What happens if a presidential candidate dies? And you're right, the DNC basically chooses a new candidate. There's some issues with constitutionality as it pertains to the electoral college. But it is something that is someone else is thinking about it. It's just coincidence that they put this in now. Well, they would be thinking about it because I'm sure that it was a big rumor that floated all over the place about it after that report came out. Well, there you go. Okay, so you want to finish? You got some more stuff here to finish up. I got some more stuff. Let's we could talk about. I wanted to talk a little bit about some of the conspiracies, but let's get rid of some of these clips. This is the one that kind of amuses me. This is

1:53:36 Democracy Now, and this is Amy, and she's—let's call this Spot the Flub. Ah, yes. News from the campaign trail. Hillary Clinton says she'll release more medical records after she fell ill with what her doctor described as pneumonia and dehydration. On Sunday, Clinton was seen abruptly leaving a ceremony in Lower Manhattan commemorating the 9-11 attacks. Video showed her stumbling as Secret Service agents helped her into a van. Clinton says she's feeling much better, yet Sunday's episode has set off a wave of speculation about whether the Democratic Party may replace Clinton as the candidate. This is ABC commentator Koki Roberts speaking with NPR Morning Edition host David Green on Monday.

1:54:17 It's taking her off of the campaign trail, cancelling her trip to California today. It has them very nervously beginning to whisper about having her step aside and finding another candidate. That is no small thing to say. I mean, is that a real thing? Or is this just some nerves after a weekend of— I think it's unlikely to be a real thing. And I'm sure it's an overreaction of an already skittish party. This comes as former Democratic National Committee Chair Don Fowler says the Democratic Party should draft up a contingency plan in case it needs to identify a replacement candidate.

1:54:54 On Monday, Fowler told Politico, quote, "'I think the plan should be developed by 6 o'clock this afternoon. It's something you would be a fool not to prepare for,' unquote. After the article ran, Fowler, who has backed Hillary Clinton, clarified he was only calling for a process to be drafted up, not for a replacement candidate to be named. The DNC's rules allow for the party to name the replacement candidate ahead of November's election. Okay, before you say a single thing, even though you're mean to me and say that I'm stingy, there's no way I could not let you have Clip of the Day for this. I have not heard this anywhere on television. I know it's your beat, but dang. Yeah. Dang.

1:55:43 And did you catch the flub? After the article ran, Fowler, who is backed, President, who has backed Hillary Clinton. President, I mean, they want her to be president even if it's her brain in the jar in the Oval Office. Yeah, it's going to be like a Futurama. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Her head will be in the formality. Yeah, wow. Good one. Good one. No thanks. You got more? I'm sure you have more. Yeah, see there's a couple things here. Now we can go... There's also some Trump stuff. There's a... I watched the press conference with Josh and there was a bunch of good stuff in this press conference by this one woman. I don't know who it is but she's very aggressive and she's obviously got a lot of seniority because they let her ask question after question after question. And I think this is the White House press conference. The White House Josh Earnest, yes.

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

White House Press Briefing, IRS Impeachment

During a White House press briefing, Josh Earnest was questioned about a provision in the tax code that would allow President Obama to personally request and release Donald Trump's tax returns. Earnest dismissed the idea as unlikely, citing the need to keep the IRS free from political influence. The hosts transition to the ongoing efforts to impeach the head of the IRS over the Lois Lerner email scandal and the perceived lack of accountability in the agency.

josh earnest· irs· donald trump· tax returns· lois lerner· impeachment· transparency

1:56:35 And so, and she's aggressive and she keeps asking me stuff over and over. She's more like Matt over at the State Department press conference. And she's very good looking reporter. I don't know who she works for. I could figure it out. I've seen her before. And I think Josh has a crush on her because there's a kind of a, you can just see this twinkle in his eye when she's, And he's pretty emotionless. Yes, for him to have a smile on his face when he's talking to her. So there's something going on with this woman. Let's see, where do I have these clips? No, it depends on the plural. Oh, sorry about this. That's all right. I do have a new actually before we play her Let's play this another this was I thought was a kind of setup is that I'm all ready for this you're right You're right. You're right Don't make the director get on the horn Okay, I did anything but that Okay, where is she?

1:57:34 This is this annoys me when this happens by the way. Trump Foundation, Trump, Trump Trudeau. How about guy punched an audience? No, but play that while I'm looking. Okay. Donald Trump is continuing to attack Hillary Clinton over her comments Friday, calling half of Trump supporters, quote, a basket of deplorables. This comes as a new video has emerged of a Trump supporter punching an anti-Trump protester, as the protester was being escorted out of a rally in Asheville, North Carolina. In March, one of Trump's supporters was caught on video sucker-punching an anti-Trump protester at a rally in Tucson, Arizona. Donald Trump has said he'd pay the legal fees of his supporters, who also said the next time he might kill the protester. That's the story in Asheville.

1:58:24 Yeah, this could be a setup by the Clinton people. You don't know what this is all about. Okay, this is on Russia at the press conference. It's just a just misnamed and screwed it up. There it is. Hold on. I'm sorry. Now I screwed it up. Okay. On Russia at the press conference. Yes, I got it. On Russia. When the president was speaking yesterday at that political rally, he spent a lot of time talking about the comparison of Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin. Is there a reason he spent a lot of time doing that given how delicate the diplomacy is with Russia right now on this Syria deal, given that the US is now agreeing to share military and intelligence with Russia? I know they're not there yet, but it came to that agreement and the President signed off on it.

1:59:16 that would damage the very fragile agreement? No, the President's not worried about that. I think the President's comments yesterday say a lot more about the Republican nominee than they do about the Russian president. But is there a reason he spent so much time talking about the nominee? Well, again, I think the President's comments speak for themselves. I think he thought that was a rather illuminating a declaration from the Republican nominee to compare himself to somebody who Republicans or at least the type of leader that Republicans have historically expressed deep concerns about. Yeah, yeah in the 50s. Yeah. Give me a break. I mean George Bush was great pals with Putin.

2:00:10 They hang out with the guy. This is nonsense. Wait, wait. George Bush was pals with Putin. Oh, that's right. At the ranch. At the ranch. You're right. Yeah, Putin and him were hanging out all the time. Yeah, they were. They rode bears together. You're right. Well, let's go. So let's stay at this press conference because this guy, this other reporter, I thought had one of the really funny trap questions. You know, Obama's been making a big stink about, because he's on the stump for Hillary, about Trump not releasing his tax forms so this guy dug up some a piece of the law that I don't think anybody knows about and they kind of hushed it up and they did kind of overlooked it I think the scandal of the story is that this particular law actually exists because we're always now this is in reference to what this is about

2:00:59 Trump not releasing his taxes. Okay, gotcha So this guy came up with a with an interest very interesting trick question and listen to this tax code trap question. Okay, Josh Nice to see you here What a setup nice to see you I put him off guard I know what he's gonna do, but that's what you do A couple questions on the president's comments in Philadelphia yesterday about Trump's taxes. Okay. Is it fair to take from the fact that he brought this up, I believe twice in the speech that the president believes that it's important or valuable for voters to have information on Trump's taxes or to see those returns before they go to the polls in November? Well, the president believes that it's a

2:01:40 that there's an important tradition in American politics. For decades, candidates in both parties, in the spirit of transparency, have released their tax returns. I know Secretary Clinton has done that, and the President believes that that's important. So in that vein, you probably don't have a copy of the Internal Revenue Code up there on the podium, I bet. I do not. But under Section 6103G, the President... You brought it with you, though. I just cut out that part. Upon written request by the President signed by him personally, the Treasury Secretary can furnish to the President the president may designate a return or return information with respect to any taxpayer named in such request. And this section goes on to say that as long as you or others have the personal written direction of the president, you're free to go ahead and release that. So with the president, I'm going to let him go ahead and release that.

2:02:32 feel this is so important that he'd be willing to get those returns from the treasury and make them public if voters really should have this information by November. Well, I've heard of this potential option. I think it is rather unlikely that the president would order something like that. Why? It's a great idea. If there's more on this, uh, shit, he is stumbling badly. I hate you. Why?

2:03:14 I'm on a roll. You are on fire. The interpretation of the statute will consult the lawyers and let you know. But you'd say it's rather unlikely because that would raise other concerns or because of the history of the White House and release of tax information under prior presidents? Well, I think there are a couple of principles here. Certainly one thing that is important and certainly something that's been prioritized in this administration is making sure that the work of the IRS is not affected with even the appearance of political influence. And in this regard, obviously the President has made clear that he's a strong supporter of Secretary Clinton in the presidential race. I think the second thing, though, Josh, is this. No other presidential nominee in either party has ever been compelled to release their tax returns. They've all done so voluntarily.

2:04:07 There's been no reason to resort to obscure sections of the tax code to try to find a reason to force them to release these tax returns. My goodness! Why wouldn't the president do that? That's great! Well, there's a couple. One reason he wouldn't do it is because it would just draw attention to the fact that right now it is not being reported very well, but I caught it on C-SPAN. I didn't make a clip. I could have, but it was a little boring. Maybe I'll bring a clip for the next show. They're trying to impeach the head of the IRS because he has not done anything, apparently, about all these things that Lerner did, which was scamming the whole country. Yeah, deleting emails as well and making life difficult for people.

2:04:54 And in the process of them trying to impeach this guy, and they're all in on it, so I think they're going to manage to at least get it to the floor. They think, they said that Lerner got full pension, even though she's a massive screw-up. Yeah. Well, government job, baby. It's great. Yeah, well, it was that. Okay, any more on the elections or well yeah, you know I want to just talk over a couple of these things that are going on with the Conspiracy people and the Hillary thing all right starting with that and I want to go through every one of them just quickly okay first of all there was the handcuffs and

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Clinton Health Conspiracies, Metal Object Mystery

Various conspiracy theories regarding Hillary Clinton's health are examined, including allegations of Parkinson's disease, Russian poisoning, and the use of a catheter or leg brace. A specific moment in the 9/11 video where a small metal object appears to fall from Clinton's pant leg is discussed, with theories ranging from a broken pair of glasses to a mechanical part of a medical brace.

parkinson's· poisoning· leg brace· catheter· metal object· conspiracy theory

2:05:31 theory. That her friend had her handcuffed? Yes, and in fact if you look at the video of her stumbling around and somebody pointed out to me that you can see that she had her hands behind her back and you can actually see her hand behind her back. And I put these, the photos you email me, I put them in the show notes so people could take a look themselves. And supposedly she was arrested And they let her walk to those cars before they handcuffed her somewhere. And she didn't want to get in because she was going to go away. And she didn't want to get in. She didn't collapse at all. This was nothing but her fighting it. Not going in. They threw her in. I would have bought into that as a possibility had I not seen the purse, but okay. Well, that doesn't mean they can swap her out. No, it fits with the purse. It does. Yeah, it works fine with the purse.

2:06:22 So there's the other one is she was poisoned By the Russians because the Russians poison people that's the Russians Russians are big poisoners. Yeah And you can look up Hillary poisoned and you'll find a bunch of stuff on Google and that's why she doesn't drink water She gives staffs always or because she won't drink, you know, she doesn't want to take a chance that the waters been poisoned Oh And she doesn't have a trusted taster I guess she doesn't have a trusted taster. She doesn't trust anybody, especially in the Secret Service because they hate her. Another one is she's got Parkinson's. Yeah, I've heard this. There's a lot of stuff on the Parkinson's and it's all over the place. Swallowing and all that stuff. Yeah. And this is one of the main thing is done by this guy who does a kind of a fake news report. It looks like he's got you. He spent some money to get some, uh, some sets and stuff for his, uh, little operation. And it's called new news network. I see that.

2:07:21 And he brings this one doctor who's the big proponent of the Parkinson's thing, even though he says it's not a diagnosis, but, and then he lists everything. And then it's very convincing, it's very good. And then there's another spin-off of that, it's not Parkinson's at all, but it's some neurological disorder that's very specific. And I sent you a link to the video. Yeah, wait, is this the... Deep vein thrombosis. Yeah, well something. No, no, no, it was something else That's another thing that she had but this is a cortical some it's a neurological thing pure neurological and This is actually very convincing because one of the elements is you get pneumonia. Yeah, I thought that was good and I see is there any other ones besides the hand comes to drinking water there? Oh, yeah, this one is the last one I think it'll be the last one

2:08:12 She's got either a colostomy bag or a leg brace. or a, if she got a brace and a colostomy bag, or it's not a colostomy bag, it is a catheter, and the catheter drips down and so she can pee, like you said earlier. She's peeing in a bag which is down on her leg and it's been identified by various photos that show from different angles of lump in her pantsuit. She's always covering her legs for the reasons, there's a lot of reasons I'm supposing, but mostly to cover up this bag of pee which she's walking around with. Well put. I have to say that this is... Before you say, the piece of metal that fell on the ground and it's, I think it came out of her pants, it's not completely clear.

2:09:06 Very bothersome you hear the thing drop on the ground. Tink-a-ling-ting. You know someone said oh it was the the leg of one of her glasses broke and fell on the ground now because the the body double had the glasses on when she came out so the glasses did not break unless there's two Two pairs and but you know still that just doesn't make sense in the story, but that was troublesome what that why I have no idea what that is Well, and then she came, that's when she kind of left, leaned to that, to where that came out. She kind of leaned like she didn't have a knee or something. Maybe she has a missing knee. The brace to me made sense. I could, like a Forrest Gump thing and it broke. I don't know.

2:09:46 It happened at the same time her knees buckled. Yeah, and then she lost a shoe. But anyway, these are the common conspiracy theories that are floating around about her. And I would say compared to Trump, who they just, you know, they've done instead of doing a number on Trump, They just call him an idiot and a clown and a moron and a douche and a cheap bastard. They have a whole report trying to, you know, because they were bringing up the Hillary Clinton Foundation, they decided to go with some guy at the Washington Post. Yeah, we're going to go after the Trump Foundation.

CHAPTER 19 / 29 Discussion

Trump Foundation vs. Clinton Foundation, GuideStar Ratings

The Washington Post's investigation into the Trump Foundation is contrasted with the financial complexities of the Clinton Foundation. While the Trump Foundation is criticized for its small size and lack of personal contributions from Trump since 2008, the Clinton Foundation faces scrutiny over its 990 tax filings and registration status. GuideStar recently awarded the Clinton Foundation a "platinum" rating, which the hosts suggest may be a result of recent book-cleaning or political influence.

trump foundation· clinton foundation· guidestar· david farenthold· washington post· charles ortel

2:10:24 So they're going after the Trump Foundation and this is like, this is the beginning of it. And this is on PBS. So we're talking about, and so Washington, by the way, PBS should stop bringing Washington Post people on their show. Washington Post is not trustworthy. I was at the dinner table recently with my daughter and I think Some I think somebody else mentioned this they were talking about taking that class in It was a history class or some class and they the teacher said you cannot use the Washington Post as a source Oh Wow Because it is unreliable So here's the Washington Post guy trying to make a case against Trump and it is so weak. I mean, yeah Would you would turns out I'll explain a couple of things I'd love I didn't clip the whole thing as was long But let's listen to the beginning of it is catching heat for how his foundation has functioned I'm joined by David Farenthold of the Washington Post who has spent the past few months digging into the Republican nominees history of charitable donations and his lack of

2:11:22 of personal contributions to the Trump Foundation. David Farenthold, thank you for talking with us. Tell us first a little bit about the foundation. How is it set up? How is it different from other foundations? Well, it's quite a small foundation. Trump started it in 1987. And in contrast to other people who have about as much money as Trump does, it doesn't have very much money in it at all. The most money it's ever had was about $3.3 million in 2009. The most the money it has now is about a million dollars total. So, there's no paid staff. The board of it is just four Trumps, Donald, Donald Jr., Eric and Ivanka, and one Trump organization employee. They all work for no pay. They work half an hour a week. The most unusual thing about it is not just that it's small, but whose money is in it. Donald Trump hasn't put any money into his own foundation since 2008. Instead, he's got other people to donate, and then he sort of gives their money away to people who are under the impression that they're getting Donald Trump's money.

2:12:18 When you say other people have put money in, what sort of people are we talking about? Well, a lot of them don't want to talk, but the biggest donation you can see in tax filings is from Vince and Linda McMahon, the WWE moguls. Trump was on WrestleMania in 2007, and in that year, in 2009, the McMahons gave a total of $5 million. Now, we know that was not Trump's payment for WrestleMania. He got paid separately. Okay, okay now a couple things before I can tell you what had went on after this. Let's just jump to the chase and say it appears as if Donald Trump's a cheap prick. Okay, we can stop there and that's he doesn't give to anybody. And a cheater and a cheater. Well, he might be a cheater. I don't know about that but

2:12:59 This is interesting because I had to kick this guy I'd take with a grain of salt because he starts his little thing at the beginning with the most it's ever had in it was 3.3 million in 2009 and he says that very clearly at the beginning. Then he says in 2009 the McMahons gave 5 million. Yeah. So why would it be 3.3? What happened to the other 1.7 million? Good question. So he's already at the beginning of this whole spiel. He's like loose with his facts. He's loose. So this is not what a good investigative reporter does. This is, he's loose. He's loose. He's just that this is a Trump hit piece done in the Washington Post. I'm sure it's a wonderful hit piece. Well, there's a couple of things. But it's dumb. I'm Mr. 990. It's my beat. I look at the tax filings.

2:13:49 The Clinton Foundation 990 in tax filing is Charles Ortel's beat. CharlesOrtel.com, you want to look at him. But GuideStar, which is where I look up all the 990s, They have recently, because I've looked this up previously when talking on the show, oh, Clinton Foundation, you know, top star, top awards from Charity Watch and all these very small organizations which are really one man non-profits and they get about $250,000 and you know, gee, it's from the Clinton Foundation. So, you know, so we can't, we'd have to discount those, but GuideStar.

2:14:29 They rate the Clinton Foundation out as platinum and they came out with an article, Tina of course sent this to me, she's in the nonprofit world. Yeah, I saw this and I have a comment if you don't have it. Okay, so the main thing is that because everyone's asking us about it, we have some key differences here between the Clinton Foundation and the Trump Foundation and the main Of course, they're saying the main thing is size, whereas the Clinton Foundation has assets of $354 million compared to the Trump Foundation's $1 million. Clinton Foundation had total expenses of $91 million versus $596,000 for the Trump Foundation. The Clinton Foundation has 486 staff compared to zero staff at the Trump Foundation. Now, one other thing, one point I want to make.

2:15:15 The idea, and this was on the white gay Hillary channel on Sirius, the white gay guy Hillary channel, Progressive 127. They're saying, yo, this is unbelievable, unbelievable. Trump has a foundation that collects money from other people and he gives it away like it's his! I don't know. The Clinton Foundation does exactly the same thing. They take money from other people and give it away and take all the glory. It's the same thing. Although, of course, the Washington Post guy, as he went on, this is the point he kept pounding home. And that's where they got it from. The Washington Post guy went on about, oh, he's collecting money from other people and giving it away and then taking credit for it.

2:16:04 And what is your question about the GuideStar note? The GuideStar note, which put them at platinum, is that right? Yeah. I think if I'm not mistaken, if that's the operation that's got the 990s, I think they rank all these guys. They never ranked the Clinton Foundation before, if I'm not mistaken. That's what I'm saying. I've looked at it many times. Yes, and there's a little thing there that says history. There's no history of this platinum. It's just now. So, they've been bought off. Or the Clintons really cleaned up their books and they roll out this, hey, look at this, it's clean as a whistle. Well, no, the issue with the Clinton books, the Clinton books are okay. That's not the problem. One, the organization is not approved for what it does. I think GuideStar messes up by not actually checking the registration and, you know, it's for a library, it's not for AIDS, drugs in Africa. So, it's an incorrectly...

2:16:53 registered, which is important because the IRS will only... okay, you've got a foundation, this is according to Charles Ortel, you've got a foundation, great. What's it going to do? It's going to do that. Okay, you have to stay within those boundaries. You want to change that, you have to alert the IRS. As far as we know, this has never happened. And then the real problem is you need to look at the numbers from the other organizations that donate to the Clinton Foundation. And we have many examples where 50 million leaves one NGO, go to the Clinton Foundation, but only 30 million shows up. What happened to the other 20 million? So that's... Yeah, that's what Ortel has got on his... That's what Ortel is doing, exactly.

2:17:33 So these guys can go on with it. And I think it's funny, I wish you'd get some clips from those guys on 127 because it sounds hilarious to me. But yes, there are, you know, everyone's all over the place. I will get you some clips of these guys. Okay, I'll do that. I would love to hear something from these guys. I do like your description, but I would like to hear it. I have to tell you that every time I take a shower, if it's during the day, in the afternoon, sometimes I shower in the afternoon, I'll take my little Bluetooth speaker and I'll put on the white guy, white gay guy Hillary channel and just, it's just, I shower for hours. It's so much fun.

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

Steubenville Rape Case, Hacker Derek Lostutter

Hacker Derek Lostutter faces up to 16 years in prison for exposing a 2012 rape case involving high school football players in Steubenville, Ohio. Lostutter uncovered social media posts and videos of the assault, leading to the conviction of two students. The discussion highlights the disparity in sentencing, as the rapists served only two years while the whistleblower who "set the information free" faces a much harsher federal penalty.

steubenville· ohio· derek lostutter· hacking· rape· anonymous· rt

2:18:15 I'll get that for you. Well, let's go to a story that's really irksome and I don't see anybody mainstream covering much of it. You can get it if you look up Steubenville rape on Google and you can find this story. I saw the CBS website has it. I didn't hear it necessarily on CBS or any place else for that. I'm sorry for that matter, except Democracy Now. And I just think this is an out... People made such a stink over this guy at Stanford Swimmer and all the rest of it, who apparently raped an unconscious woman at a party while everyone was drunk. And it's all over the news. Big deal. This guy's ruined for life. Meanwhile, this hacker who uncovered the Steubenville, Ohio rapists

2:19:09 who are a bunch of football players that the it was high school football players that was uh Uncovered by a guy who hacked into a bunch of emails in the Facebook accounts, I guess and Reveal what was going on and then the whole town turned against the hacker because they like these their football team They don't care about the apparently a girl who was raped 15 year old raped and then committed suicide could see was humiliated We don't care if a football player cold Cox's wife in the elevator drags her out. We don't care Yeah, sit on the bench for a game So here we go. A hacker in the US state of Ohio is facing as much as 16 years in prison for allegedly exposing the rape of a minor by high school football players. Derek Lostata has pleaded not guilty to four felony counts of hacking in connection with the rape case. In 2012, he reportedly hacked the local school website and posted video online, ultimately exposing the rapists.

2:20:10 The party took place in a small town in Ohio known as Steubenville. At this party are a list of men named in the preliminary docs below who took part in the kidnapping and rape of a 15 year old girl. This video is to document the proof for the masses. The town of Steubenville has been good at keeping this quiet and their star football team protected. According to the indictment, Lostutter is facing three counts of unauthorized access to a computer affecting interstate communication and one count of making a false statement to the FBI. His revelations allegedly showed the rapists sharing posts on social media joking about the rape victim and referring to her as the dead girl. Two students were convicted and in prison for up to two years but have since been released for good behavior.

2:20:57 Now, Lostato's attorney told us what makes hacking so much worse than rape in the eyes of the law. The government is obsessed with controlling information and having total control over information over its citizens and anything that they view as a threat to that control of the information, which hackers of course are because hackers seek to set information free. Whatever you think about the information that they're setting free and how they're doing it, that's one of the main modalities of hackers. That's a threat to the government's control over information and the government seeks to punish that very, very harshly.

2:21:36 I'm sorry, I said democracy now perhaps, but that's RT. Love to give this to Neil. I just thought that was one of the most disgusting situations. Well, this is what's really bad. This was really bad about it. So you have these football players, they've done this. We get the guy who cold cocked his wife, girlfriend, dragged her out. And I was like, eh, whatever. But guy kneels for the national anthem, everyone loses their shit. Unbelievable. We have a sad, sad public. This is the one tie in here. This is a clip sent to me by one of our producers, G non-nomous and.

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

Megan Rapinoe Kneeling, First Amendment Discourse

U.S. soccer star Megan Rapinoe has joined the movement of kneeling during the national anthem to protest social injustice. In an interview, Rapinoe questioned if the country should protect the "discourse" of people using slurs against her in response to her protest. The hosts argue that free speech must apply to both the protester and those who use their speech to criticize the protester, regardless of how offensive the language may be.

megan rapinoe· national anthem· first amendment· free speech· hate speech· colin kaepernick

2:22:17 It took me a while to figure out why he thought it was an important clip. This is on ESPN, which you know I didn't get that clip. Megan Rapone, she's a soccer player and she is... is she the... on the women's US team, I presume? I think she was one of the stars. Yes, and now she has also decided she is going to kneel. before the flag, which what it originally was, but of course now it's the national anthem. But she brings us back to the First Amendment issue in a very interesting way. Are you ready for the backlash if it comes? Yeah, I am. I feel like what I'm doing is right.

2:22:53 Do we want to live in a country where someone exercises their first amendment right? Whether you agree with it or not, or you think it's offensive or not, that they're called the N-word, the C-word, a bitch, anti-American, whatever. Is that the kind of discourse that we want to have? Is that the kind of conversation that we want to have? So she said something very interesting. He says, are you worried about the backlash? She says, no, I'm not. Do you want people exercising their first amendment right calling me the N word, the C word, bitch. It kind of sounds like she's saying that should not be protected speech. That she's on the right path by kneeling, but everyone who exercises their right to free speech and calls you a name, as long as it's not slanderous,

2:23:39 They should shut up and that can't happen. It's very very I think I think yeah, this is a missing the point moment if you want to express free speech by not standing for the national anthem. And by the way, I did get a letter. I don't have it in front of me. I should probably put it in the binder. I need to get... I'm working with a binder. I think this is the setup to hate speech is not free speech or something like that. Well, I got it. This is an aside. A guy sent a note, said he's a lawyer. He said, don't use my name. I'm a lawyer. Oh no, it's his lawyer who sent him a note. He asked his lawyer a question, the lawyer sent him a note back. He forwarded me the note from the lawyer. That code, the US code that you were discussing where you have to, you know, those are all suggestions and it's not written, it's not codified in a way that is required.

2:24:30 Say that again? The point...the law that you cited that has...you're supposed to stand and put your hand... Yes, yes, yes. U.S. Code. It's written as a suggestion. Yes. If you read it carefully, you don't have to do any of that stuff. Well, the U.S. Code in that case is...if you read it carefully, no, it says what you should do, but U.S. Code in general, you know, there's no fines or punishment if you don't do it. Yeah, so but I think we pretty much got that one. Yeah, I think we'd be dead to death. But I think there's the moment where you where you think it's okay to Kneel and not pay any attention to the fight and you know my and again, you know My feelings about these militaristic kinds of things at a sporting event right commercial sporting event. Yeah as opposed to the Olympics

2:25:21 If you're going to do that and somebody calls you certain dirty names, they got the same rights you have. I mean, it's just that I think you're right. And this woman is expressing that, which is that hate speech. Hate speech. Can't call me whatever I am. A C word. That's what she said. See you next Tuesday. But yeah. OK. You got anything else I'd like to move to a new topic? Well, I got a money topic if you want to move to that topic if you know what I mean. No, I'd like to... Okay, well I do have a money topic just cue me when you're ready. Money topic coming soon. We're gonna go long today man, I gotta tell you right now. No, I don't want to go long. Well, geez, okay. We still have a donation segment. I can't help it.

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

Edward Snowden Pardon Campaign, Oliver Stone Movie

The ACLU has launched a formal campaign urging President Obama to pardon Edward Snowden before leaving office. Snowden appeared via video link to support the effort, though observers noted his glasses appeared crooked and the "nose guard" was missing. The hosts suggest the timing of the pardon campaign is less about legal justice and more about promoting the release of the new "Snowden" biographical film directed by Oliver Stone.

edward snowden· barack obama· aclu· presidential pardon· oliver stone· movie promotion

2:26:06 Okay, Snowden, Snowden, Snowden, Snowden, this is one of your favors. The ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, who is a very odd organization in my opinion, they have come out with a new campaign. We believe this is precisely the time for the US President to act. President Obama is in his final months of his presidency. Presidents normally take some of the most difficult actions of their eight years in office in the final months. Ed's case has affected the rights of millions of Americans and hundreds of millions of people across the globe.

2:26:45 And so it's the public pressure on the president to help him see that the acts of Ed's whistleblowing merit a presidential pardon that we think and why we advise Ed that this was the perfect time for launching a presidential pardon campaign. Okay, so it's the Pardonsnowden.org, a presidential pardon campaign to pardon Ed Snowden. Ed Snowden was at the event, although of course he wasn't at the event. He was on video, which I have a little clip from. And he not only is the nose guard still missing from his glasses, which he only seems to wear for US appearances, not when he's just hanging out roaming around in Russia.

2:27:22 But they're askew. I mean, it's literally crooked on his head. Very, very... Not a good appearance by Ed. And listen to the emotion. I don't know where we're going from here. I don't know what tomorrow looks like. But I'm glad for the decisions that I made. And I'm thankful to all of you who are supporting me and believe in the same. Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined three years ago such an outpouring of solidarity. But even though I'm far from home, your company, your support, Keeps me company in exile. Oh, oh my goodness. Can I ask a quick question? It's just a point of oral, you know, a point of information as it were. Yeah, of course. Pardon him in what way? Ah, you're jumping the gun. You're jumping the gun. Yeah, jumping the gun. Point of information. Well, I'm obviously not the only one because I wouldn't have thought of it. Well, now this of course went to the White House briefing. Josh Earnest. Mr. Snowden has not been convicted of crimes with regard to this particular situation, but he's charged with serious crimes.

2:28:22 And it's the view of the administration and certainly the view of the president that he should return to the United States and face those charges even as he enjoys the protection of a due process and other rights that are afforded to American citizens who are charged with serious crimes. That's right. If you're not charged, there's nothing to pardon. You are right on the money, John. Right on the money. Now, why is this campaign by people lawyers? ACLU has lots of lawyers. Why did they set this up? Why why in the world would they ask for a presidential pardon if they know it's completely unrealistic because there's nothing to pardon? Why? I have a guess. Okay. More money, more money. Close. Okay, that's my only guess. The modern battlefield is everywhere. Leave that there. Are they watching us?

2:29:07 There's something inside the government. I can't ignore they're gonna come for me Are you going away? Rated R. That's right. The movie's coming out, of course! Yeah, but why would they? Chill, you have anything to do with promoting the movie. Oh, maybe they get a piece, maybe they get a donation Come on! This commercial aired in the commercial block after I saw this piece. Oh, that's pathetic. It really is pathetic. It really is so pathetic. But yes, that's what happened. Movie PR, people, movie PR before your very eyes. Yep. We spotted that early. All right. I'll let you do one more before we have to go to a break. I got to keep you tight. Well, how about Wells Fargo? Now, let's stop for a second and remember, Wells Fargo just scammed the American public out of millions of dollars.

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

Wells Fargo Fraud Scandal, Carrie Tolstedt Payout

Wells Fargo executive Carrie Tolstedt is retiring with a $124 million payout following the revelation that bank employees created over 2 million unauthorized customer accounts to meet sales goals. Despite the bank being fined $185 million, critics point out that no executives have faced criminal charges for the systemic fraud. The hosts compare the massive executive bonus to the relatively small fine levied against the institution.

wells fargo· carrie tolstedt· banking scandal· fraud· bonus· fake accounts

2:30:05 And they got a slap on the wrist of a hundred and something, $180 million fine, I think. Compare the fine to the bonus they gave this woman. And by the way, she's like a Sheryl Sandberg lean in woman who was behind the scam. Thank you. And next this evening, a massive payout for the head of the Wells Fargo division where workers created phony accounts in their customers' names. Kerry Tolstead is retiring with high praise and a package reported to be worth more than $124 million. Just as the bank eliminates the sales goals that caused its workers to open more than 2 million unauthorized accounts in their customers' names, which cost those customers millions in fees. Yo-yo.

2:30:51 Good work, lady. Unbelievable. Where's the racketeering charge? Well, this of course is Pocahontas' outfit that levied the fine, but where's the arrests? This is absolutely... They should be rounding him up and sending him to Rikers. All right, you know what we'll do now? I know what we're gonna do now. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On KnowAgenda morning. All right, a few people to thank, starting with Jim Bickhouse in St. Louis, Missouri, $100. And he has, oh my goodness, let me read this for you. My 15-year-old, John and Adam, my 15-year-old daughter, Elena, passed away two years ago.

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

Second Donation Segment, International Producer Support

The second donation segment includes contributions from listeners in Missouri, Wyoming, and the United Kingdom. A producer from Brazil, Guilherme, describes the extreme difficulty of obtaining a U.S. work visa, prompting a discussion on the reciprocal "visa war" between the two countries. The hosts grant "job karma" to several listeners facing employment transitions.

donations· brazil· visa· karma· australia· uk· producers

2:31:46 September 18th from Ewing Sarcoma, which is bone cancer. Please play F Cancer for me. By the way, I've been listening to you since your first podcast. It was good enough to continue listening, keep hitting them in the mouth. Yeah, of course we'll do that for you. I'm sorry about that, man. Terrible. Yeah. And we'll put you to put that at the end. Of course. Well, I just would know if you can play it now or put it at the end. That was the question. I want to play it for him now. I'll play it for him now and give him a karma. This guy deserves it. You've got karma. Lance Fisher in Kansas City, Missouri. Another one. He's just down the road from St. Louis where Jim is. And he has a douchebag call out. $100. No, he doesn't. My mistake. I'm shutting up. No. That'd be written in it. He's no longer a douchebag. Give him a de-douching and we'll move on. You've been de-douched.

2:32:47 Macintosh, I'm sorry, it's Machinsky. Machinsky Home Construction in Evanston, Wyoming, 99.99. He did send a note congratulating us on the show. He likes the show. I don't have it in front of me, unfortunately. I would, yeah, I will read it later. He's a good guy. He donates all the time. Sir Richard Moffitt in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Yeah, both of them, 9999. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Riley Kimball. Boobs, boobs, booboo. Boobs. He's the only one who seems to have found the boobs. What was it? What was the link? I missed it. It was the train. Ugh. Yeah, why would I click on a train?

2:33:24 Riley, Ken was a boob who drove it off the tracks and I got here. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I should have known Riley's in with the 8008 Neil Chapman in Exeter, Devon, Great Britain, UK, 73 73. What's his? Oh, he's Mike one Delta Tango Charlie. Yeah. Oh, nice. Nice. Seven threes. Kilo five alpha Charlie. Charlie Ditto. Tabitha Spinoza is sixty nine sixty nine. She's got a birthday coming up. Loves the show. Will Stagno in Kenmore, Washington, 6543. Ron Driggs in Salt Lake City. He says, this is my weekly strip club allowance and boy is Porsche gonna be pissed. He gives 60. Yeah, Porsche is pissed.

2:34:14 Paul, from my days running the old Club 33 Porsche was a very popular name. Yeah it is. I think it's spelled P-O-R. It should be named after the car. No, but it's spelled differently. Well, real Porsche's name is P-O-R-T-I-A, but I can see some stripper naming herself Porsche as the car. I've been working with him at the club. I know, right? You know about the club? Paul Shirley, Beavercrest, uh, Beaver Creek, Oregon, 5510, Howard Leharue in Worcester, Massachusetts, nuts. Uh, double nickels on the dime, Michael Hochberg in Helsinki, 55, uh, mrah.

2:34:54 Oh, Sir Philip Meeson in Welshpool, Pows, Great Britain. And he wanted to vote 52. He says that 9-11 was staged. These are the 52 donors that are still voting. Andrew Dawson in Victoria, Australia, 52. John Cannons, 52, in Cairns, Queensland. Sir Horatio Wandsworth in London, England, 52. Thomas Hithaller in Vienna. Austria, 52. John Porter, 52 in Houston. And Stephen McConnell, 52 in Cortland, Ohio. These are all people voting for the 9-11 with stakes action that we had. And I guess maybe a birthday call out too, but that's over. The rest of these are $50 donors. I'm just gonna name their names and locations, all $50. Mike Madaloni in Chicago.

2:35:56 Kent O'Rourke, Parts Unknown, Simon Horn in Manly, Queensland, Australia. Manly Place. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada. Garemay Broom. And I think it's from Brazil. His note says, Hi Adam and John, I'm a longtime listener, first time supporter. OK, hold on. You've been deduced lately. I found special interest in your cast podcast because I was offered a position in our company's factory in the US. I'm from Brazil and the visa process takes some time. Well, you are welcome. You are welcome. Guilherme, you'll be welcome as a citizen. Come on in.

2:36:39 Yeah, well, they Brazilians and the Americans have had a beef forever And I don't know why but it's been going on no one from either Council it can explain this to me because I tried to get to the bottom of it So he's actually having a this guy cut off his note. I He's, I know what's going on. He's having a miserable time just getting into the United States because I guess that if all the countries in the world are filled with terrorists, Brazil's not one of them. That's interesting. I didn't know this. Yes, this has been going on. And would you want to get a thing to go to Brazil? Because they're doing, it's like, well, you did that to us. We're going to do that to you. They make it miserable for you because of we're making it miserable. We started it. Yeah. I want him to send me an email with the full story, adamandcurry.com.

2:37:22 Yeah, he'll have it. I'd like to know about that. It's terrible. So if you're going to go to Brazil, make it...you have to take a spaceship a month to just get a visa. Really? Not to mention a working visa. Yeah. It takes a long time. And you need a visa to go to Brazil? I didn't know that. Yes. Why is that even true? Why do you need a visa to go to Brazil? They're not in the visa waiver program either then, I guess. Oh, man. No, it's ridiculous. Okay, listen. Anyway, it's just... The Brazilians... Our producers will tell us what's going on. Mike Westerfield, Sir Mike, Parts Unknown, $50, Brandon Savoy, $50, Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, $50, Aaron Held in Philadelphia, $50, John Holler in Missoula, Montana, Christopher Brant in Volga, South Dakota, interesting town.

2:38:16 Bill Hudak in Timonium, Maryland. And last but not least, Dame Melody Mann in Ringgold, Louisiana. Those are all $50 donors. I want to thank all those folks and everyone that donated lesser amounts for helping us out with show 860. And a quick request from one of our knights, Sir Rory Stone, and we always break for knights, as you know. This is very important. And let's see, he says, Lost my dude named Ben job and I'm in need of job karma episode one listener longtime night going to listen live tomorrow would brighten my low spirits to hear the jingle of the bells jobs jobs Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs You've got karma There you go Remind everybody another show coming up on Sunday Dvorak org slash and a

CHAPTER 25 / 29 Discussion

Title Upgrades, Knighting Ceremony Part Two

The show concludes its formal ceremonies by upgrading several producers to the rank of Baron. Sir Andrew Lemesne is named Baron of America's Mountain, claiming El Paso and Teller counties in Colorado. The hosts perform a traditional knighting ceremony for new members of the Round Table, accompanied by the "Blade, Present Arms" sound effect.

knighthood· baron· colorado· middle finger· ceremony· producers

2:39:15 And here we see the Nicaragrief says, gripes, I'm sorry, says happy birthday to her husband slash handler Steven, who turned 33 yesterday. Michael Spencer celebrates on the 29th. Get in there nice and early. And Tabitha Spinoza says happy birthday to her husband, Joe, celebrating today. We could not be happier. Happy birthday to you from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe. Bam. Oh, I want to do titles, but we need a I feel We have these title changes, people moving to baronet or baron or further up the chain. We need some kind of jingle sound effect. We need something that can... we have a nighting sound. I think, I feel it's important. Even though we mentioned the title changes, I'd like some kind of sound effect. I'd leave that up to the producers. Or a little song. Upgrade, upgrade, you got an upgrade. Something like that. Something like that. That would be pretty pathetic, but something like that. Yeah, I guess it would. All right, so we have title changes today. Sir Andrew Lemesne becomes Baron of America's Mountain.

2:40:18 And he claims El Paso and Teller counties in Colorado as his protectorate. That seems to be okay. Sir Tyler Fox becomes baron of the Middle Finger Erection and he wanted the industry, right? Which industry did he want again? He wanted industry. I forgot what it was. We have to go back and look. Yeah, I feel kind of bad that we already forgot the industry he wanted to be a part of. Sure wasn't Pete the prick that wanted the industry? No, I don't think so. Or Pat the prick. It's Pat the prick. Pete the prick. Here it is. No, I guess, no. Khyama, Karma. No, it's just he wants to be Sir Tyler Barron of the Middle Finger Erection. Okay. I forget what that was. We'll figure it out. We can always fix these later. Okay, good. Well, in that case... Somebody wanted to protect her. We're on to the...

2:41:09 Whoo! Blade, present arms! Here you go. 73's. 73's. Hey, we got a nice list today. Come on up. Steven Greif, step up, might a good sir. Chris Perry, please join us here on the podium. And Pat the Prick, all of you here by the lectern. I'd like you to kneel because you have We've all entered the exclusive club known as the Round Table of the No Agenda Knights and Dames and we're very happy to bring you in and I therefore pronounce the K.V. Sir Steven, Knight of the Unfriendly Skies! Sir Selvarin, Knight in Exile from California! And Pat the Prick, Sir Pat the Prick! For you guys we got hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay, most importantly we have sake and skanks.

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

EU Military Proposal, Global Warming Narrative

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has proposed the creation of a permanent EU military headquarters, a move previously promised would never happen. Meanwhile, northern Europe is experiencing unseasonably high temperatures, which media outlets are attributing to man-made greenhouse gases and El Niño. The hosts mock the "science is in" narrative while noting that record highs in the UK only date back to 1911.

jean-claude juncker· eu military· nato· global warming· climate change· europe

2:41:55 And mutton and meat, of course. Wow, ran out of time almost there in the ceremony. Head on over to noageneration.com slash rings and give Eric the shill yo information. I'd like to go to the Euroland for a moment as we power through the last few minutes of the show. That needs to be cut to music too, by the way. Claude Juncker the drunker. A Euro Commission president, big man on campus, the drunk. He's not really the top guy. No, but he's drunk and that's why he's funny. I mean there's a bunch of different guys. Well, you're about to hear a clip of him in German, but of course it's translated.

2:42:40 He is now proposing something which we've been laughing about for many years and was sworn up and down to all the citizens of the EU lands that this would never happen. We'll never do this. I promise you. Promise, promise, promise. This will not happen. For the past 10 years, we have participated in more than 30 military and civil missions carried out by the European Union. That's actually French he's speaking. I'm sorry, not German. European Union but we don't have a permanent structure and without that we're not able to work efficiently. We must have a European headquarters. Yeah, all right.

2:43:23 And so we should work towards a common military force and this should be in complement with NATO. More European defense in Europe doesn't mean less from transatlantic solidarity, from an economic point of view, bringing together our military resources could be clearly justified. We can use cooperation and that is something which is very useful because the lack of cooperation is something which is costing the European Union 20 to 100 billion a year. So we must do something in this area.

2:44:12 There you go. EU military. They promised it would never happen, not going to take place. We're not going to withdraw from NATO, but we need our own headquarters. We need our own military. We gotta spend more money. Yeah, we saw this coming down Broadway. Unconscionable. Liars. I think you want to educate the public a little bit here. Can I do one more Euroland thing? Or is this also a Euroland thing you got? This is a Euroland thing. I just want to express this to the EU presidents. I want to list them. I want to tell you what they do. All right. There's four of them. There's a president of the European Parliament, there's the president of the European Council, there's the president of the European Commission, and there's the presidency of the Council of the EU. Which has nothing to... The Council of the EU, I think, is not even a government organization. I don't know what it is, but there's nobody... It's a lobbying organization. European Parliament president is Martin Schulz. He's essentially a do-nothing who just...

2:45:06 presides over the do-nothing parliament. Well, it's the Germans keeping tabs on everything. And the European Council president is Donald Tusk. Ah, the Polish guy. And he doesn't do anything either. He sends in the European Commission, the European Commission president, who is John Claude Juncker, is the guy who oversees the commission. That's the group, the commission, which is a bunch of paid bureaucrats that make all the laws and stuff with nobody having any input whatsoever. Well, unless it's a yellow or red card, then they can send something back from Parliament. It's a red card, red card. Change that. That's not OK. Yeah, and so that's useless. And so there's the president of the Council of the EU and the Council of the EU where national ministers discuss EU legislation doesn't have anybody permanently. It's led by a country holding the council presidency. So this would be John Claude Juncker. No, the council, he's the commission. So it'd be the guy who's, it'd be Donald Tusk. Right. And they're only in for six months. So there you go.

2:46:07 Just so you know, this is a confused bureaucracy. It's ridiculous. You're back. Yes. Report from Euronews. Actually, I did a podcast yesterday. I was interviewed about Dutch radio and because it was a podcast, I decided to do it. And he started off by mentioning the guys. I know the guy very well. I work with him. He says, it's like it's 30 degrees here in Centigrade. So that's very warm for Europe, 30 degrees. In fact, most people are very happy. Oh, 30 degrees is great. We're loving it. Much of northern Europe has been sizzling in unseasonably high temperatures, sending people scurrying into parks and onto the beach. In the UK, the Met Office recorded the warmest September day since 1911, with the mercury rising to over 34 degrees Celsius. Notice they couldn't say, warmest year on record ever, but 1911. In the South, not to be outdone, in Brussels, people also sought ways to cool off.

2:47:03 September is not usually a hot month, but some northern regions are experiencing temperatures around 9 to 12 degrees above normal. In the Netherlands, as the experts were warning people to slap on the sun cream and to drink lots of water, for the children it was playtime. And it was the same story in Berlin. Worldwide, this year is set to be the hottest since records began in the 19th century. According to the experts, it's due to a buildup of man-made greenhouse gases and an El Nino event that has warmed the Pacific Ocean. There it is! Thank goodness. Thank goodness. El Nino? El Nino. Good work. The science is in! Science! Okay. I did want to mention one more thing. Two things, actually.

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

Apple Austin Campus, Chip Design Infrastructure

Apple has expanded its presence in Austin, Texas, now employing over 6,000 people at a 216,000-square-foot campus. The facility reportedly focuses on chip design, leveraging the existing semiconductor infrastructure in the region established by companies like Samsung, Texas Instruments, and Silicon Labs.

apple· austin· samsung· chip design· silicon labs· texas instruments

2:47:54 Sad, sad day. Crazy Eddie died. We were just talking about him. I thought he already died. No, dead at 68. Okay, I thought he already died, but yeah. Dead at 68. We were just talking about him. Yeah, we were talking about him recently. You don't want us talking about you. That's not good. And the only other thing I wanted to say is, oh, this came out in an Austin newspaper yesterday. The secret Apple campus. Now, I believe I told you, I don't know if it was on the show or after the show, that Samsung has decided Austin is the place for their big new fab, for their chip fab, which is great. We have Amazon here. But now it turns out... So I thought that what I understood

2:48:42 was Apple had their customer service here and they also, I think they were building the Mac Pro, which was the dustbin, you know, the round receptacle, which I didn't, is that even on the market anymore? Can you still buy that thing? It went the way of the Cube. I had the Cube, I liked the Cube. The Cube I liked, I thought it was light, but it had a hairline of cracks. And it had some power issues too. Apple has now 6,000 employees in Austin. Wow. Six thousand. Be careful what you say. Their campus, 216,000 square feet, and a lot of these people are the chip design team, which makes sense because the FAB is right here in Austin. I did not know this. It also makes sense because that area happens to have an infrastructure milieu for chip design. They had Texas Instruments there for a long time. They've got Silicon Labs. And they used to have Motorola down there, and they all, they were

2:49:35 chip makers. Yeah, in fact one of my good friends. Yeah, I think Cyrix was another one that was in the Austin area. Well, Silicon Labs is a big one here and they're prominently placed in downtown Austin with Salt and Pepper buildings, really, you know, beautiful. It's right behind mine actually, one of their buildings. You will get a pass to get in there. I'm sure they serve free lunch. It's better than that. My friend Charlie, producer of the show, who took me flying when I first moved to Austin, Charlie Thompson, he's a retired chip designer. So we can go in anytime, he knows everybody there. Oh, just go in and get something to eat. Okay. Hey, Charlie, man, get me in so we can get something to eat. He's gonna go, what is wrong with you? No, he's not. The chip designers are always looking for free food. I have a four clip finale. Okay, wow. So first of all, so it starts off with Netanyahu

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

Israel Military Aid Package, Netanyahu Accusations

The Obama administration has finalized a record-breaking $38 billion military aid package for Israel over the next ten years. The deal includes funding for F-35 fighter jets but phases out a provision that allowed Israel to spend a portion of the aid on its own domestic defense industry. This follows controversial remarks by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who accused those opposing West Bank settlements of supporting "ethnic cleansing" of Jews.

benjamin netanyahu· israel· military aid· f-35· obama· ethnic cleansing· state department

2:50:34 making just crazy accusations that were very entertaining. And so this is the no Jews clip. The Palestinian leadership actually demands a Palestinian state with one precondition, no Jews. There's a phrase for that. It's called ethnic cleansing. And this demand is outrageous. It's even more outrageous that the world doesn't find this outrageous. Well, I don't know if just no Jews means ethnic cleansing, but... Not quite. So somebody at the State Department press conference got into the face of Trudeau about this to get her to like... You mean Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau? Yeah, that one. She is no good. She should not be doing this job. Oh, she's a little mouse. She's just no good. She has no personality. She's terrible. But here's what she had to say about that.

2:51:32 We obviously strongly disagree with the characterization that those who oppose settlement activity or view it as an obstacle to peace are somehow calling for ethnic cleansing of Jews from the West Bank. We believe that using that type of terminology is inappropriate and unhelpful. It's inappropriate and unhelpful. You really shouldn't be doing this people. It's really bad. So then we get to back to Josh Earnest and that the acute reporter who he flirts with. Yeah. She asked a series of questions.

2:52:08 And this is, and I think she was on the money, they have covered up the story as best they can. And when Trudeau, I didn't see anything about her talking about this, but listen to this information that we haven't received any place really in any sort of news way. This is the $40 billion to Israel. The Obama administration is about to give nearly $40 billion military aid package to Israel, which the State Department is calling the largest ever given to any country in American history. Why aren't you talking about it here at the White House, given what a tough relationship, well documented in the public space, President Obama and Benjamin Netanyahu have had?

2:52:49 And what do you make of some of the complaints that it's not enough? Well, I've only seen one person make that complaint. I think most people, including the Israeli government, including AIPAC, which has not been shy about offering up their criticism of the Obama administration, welcome the completion of this agreement. Obviously, the president made this a priority and identified the the completion of a new memorandum of understanding as a national security priority three years ago now. So this agreement represents the culmination of a lot of work and a whole series of difficult negotiations, but negotiations that ultimately reflected the shared priorities

2:53:38 between the United States and our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel. Now before you go to your second clip, I have some stats, of course I read this, some stats and some questions for you. So first of all, it's not 40 billion. The number is 3.8, 38 billion over 10 years. You know, I think it's important that people don't just throw away 2 billion like that. It's big numbers. Well, now, well, let me read you the fact sheet and then I'll shut up. I just want to read the fact sheet. Annual payments of 3.3 billion in so-called foreign military financing. Gotta love the number 33. Gotta love that. 500 million a year for Israeli missile defense funding. This is the first time it's been built into a formally into an aid pack.

2:54:25 phasing out a special arrangement that for decades has allowed Israel to use 26.3% of the U.S. aid on its own defense industry instead of on American-made weapons. I'm liking that, good sale. Elimination of a long-standing provision that has allowed Israel to use about 13% of U.S. aid to buy military fuel. No, no, no, no, no, you're gonna buy it from us. And the funding will allow Israel to update the lion's share of its fighter aircraft, including purchasing additional F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, which don't really fly. Israel is scheduled to receive 33 F-35 aircraft, the first two of which will be delivered in December. Yeah, they're going to deliver them via crate because they're not going to have to bring them over by ship. Here's my question for you. It won't fly them. Doesn't Congress have to approve this money? Well, that's a good question.

2:55:26 I would think, I think as part of the, I think there's an aid package bill. Yeah. Briney would be better at answering this than me. Yeah, Briney. Send us a clip with you and a clip in it to explain it, please. She'd be good at that. But whatever the case, and I said that, you said that, I meant to say it. That 38, I think is 40 because there was in the second part of the clip, this is mentioned because they're starting to do this now more and more. I find it annoying because the woman is going on about how come you guys didn't make a bigger deal of this? You're not even talking about it. And he and Josh Earnest does what he does. He says,

2:56:08 Well, we talked about it in 2013. That's when we started the process and you should have been paying attention then. And I've noticed they've been doing this. We've talked about on another show where they throw it back. Oh, no, we talked about it. And then she says, yes, but then it was 38. Ah, OK, that's this clip. Yeah. Given that it is the largest ever in any country in the history of America, why isn't that happening here? And given what you know has been a very politically heated issue and this president has been attacked because of the Iran deal, his support that you just said on questioning towards Israel has been questioned by Republicans, by Israelis. And this has been a very heated issue. It would seem that you would want to

2:56:55 I would contest the notion that this is being downplayed. The President announced the fact that we were going to pursue this memorandum of understanding at a news conference in Israel standing next to the Israeli Prime Minister. That was back in 2013. Well, listen, I think what we have made clear all along is that this is a priority. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to do that. You stepped on her chain, it was 38 billion. I was laughing, I couldn't help myself. This memorandum of understanding at a news conference in Israel standing next to the Israeli Prime Minister. That was back in 2013. Well, listen, I think what we have made clear all along is that this is a priority. He doesn't answer that question, does he?

2:57:43 Extra 2 bill just floating around. Okay, I have here. Congress must still formally approve the funding each year, but it is expected to put up few roadblocks. Both parties in Congress have sought to outdo each other with displays of support for the Jewish state. The previous 10-year agreement is set to expire in 2018. Netanyahu and Obama both plan to be in New York next week for the UN General Assembly meetings, but officials have not yet announced any plans for a formal meeting. Of course, that'll all take place at the CGI, the Clinton Global Initiative, which will spin up for when everyone's in town. That's the secret little meetings we have, you know. Yep. That's good. You know where I got that from? I was listening to you and Horowitz. I gotta call him, I keep missing him. That's the reason to go to Davos and all these things and CGI is so you can have meetings without, you know, a big deal about it. I totally agree with your assessment of that.

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Show Outro, George Carlin Mix

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from the "Crackpot Condo" in Austin. The episode concludes with a creative audio mix featuring a famous George Carlin speech about modern life and corporate culture, interspersed with clips of political figures like Nigel Farage and Gary Johnson.

george carlin· adam curry· john c. dvorak· outro· podcast· austin

2:58:37 Yeah, makes it easy. You get to meet with five or six guys, otherwise be flying and flying and flying. It's annoying and attention everywhere. Nobody wants that. Right. You get too much attention. Sometimes you don't want it. All right. Well, I'm done with my clips. I'm done. I'm done with my clips. I'm done with my stories. We're still just a tad long, but not too much. And I apologize for that. Of course, I got a couple of cool end of show clips. One of our producers made a mix of a famous George Carlin speech as bit. We got some other stuff Yeah, it's very funny. I heard it UK PMX. Good people good people Thank you all so much, and thank you for supporting us with your Intel your information your knowledge your finances it is your show your producer And we appreciate the work of everyone who supports us remember us at the borak org slash na That's where I am

2:59:40 And we'll be back, as I said, on Sunday. So coming to you from the Crackpot condo here in the skyscraper, we're in downtown Austin. It is FEMA Region 6 in Clayshire looking for us. Good morning, everybody. My name's Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, it's turning out to be a very nice day. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will return on Thursday, Sunday, I'm sorry, right here on No Agenda. There you go. Bye-bye. Adios, mofos! Let's go to Cleveland. I've been talking so. Every time I think about Trump, I get allergic. We have 63 days to go.

3:00:51 I think the key is... Isn't it funny? You know, when I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, well I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you? You're not laughing. We want our country back. We want our borders. We want to be free. Independent, self-governing, normal nation. Funny isn't it? Funny isn't it? But you know, he's a dud. He's got no worries now, he's just kind of like... stoned. Stoned. Stoned. What would you do if you were elected? Vote Aleppo out. Aleppo. And what is Aleppo? You kidding? No.

3:01:56 Aleppo is in Syria. It's the epicenter of the refugee crisis. Okay, got it. Got it. So what did you get out of it, right? What is the last stone? Okay, got it. Got it. He's a dud. He's got no worries now. He's just kind of like stoned.

3:02:53 You can't shut me up. Rough, tough and hard to bluff. You can't dumb me down. I got no need for coke and speed. You can't shut me up. You got no urge to binge and purge. You can't dumb me down. I interface in my database, my database is in cyberspace I wear power ties, I tell power lies, I take power naps, I run victory laps I read junk mail, I eat junk food, I buy junk bonds, I watch trash sports I'm tireless and I'm wireless, I'm an alpha male on data blockers Interactive, I'm hyperactive from time to time, I'm radioactive Take it slow, I go with the flow, I ride with the tide, I get blinded by shine I don't snooze, so I don't lose, I keep the pedal to the metal and the whip around the road I've been pre-washed, pre-cooked, pre-heated, pre-screened, pre-approved

3:03:49 I'm hanging in, there ain't no doubt, and I'm hanging tough over and out. Adios, mofo. Amen, fist bump.