Episode 843 · Sunday, 17 July 2016

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A botched Turkish uprising and a horrific truck attack in Nice force a global reckoning with intelligence failures, pipeline geopolitics, and the rise of theocratic conflict.

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A failed military coup in Turkey has left President Recep Tayyip Erdogan consolidating power while demanding the extradition of cleric Fethullah Gulen from Pennsylvania. General Wesley Clark and John Bolton analyzed the tactical failures of the uprising, including the inability to seize the internet or arrest the President. The strategic importance of Incirlik Air Base remains a flashpoint as Turkish authorities cut power to the facility amidst allegations of US involvement in the plot.

In the wake of the Nice truck attack, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls and intelligence chief Patrick Calvar warned of a potential civil war, while President François Hollande extended the national state of emergency. Media coverage linked the attacker to Al-Qaeda’s Inspire magazine, a narrative Maajid Nawaz and Dr. Zuhdi Jasser used to debate the terminology of political Islam. Simultaneously, the US Congress released the long-classified 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report, detailing potential Saudi Arabian ties to the hijackers that White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest attempted to downplay during briefings.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the media's focus on the Pokemon Go craze and the rise of artisanal toast as distractions from global instability. The hosts also examine the selection of Mike Pence as Donald Trump’s running mate and the military's new social media restrictions aimed at silencing dissent. New Knight Sir Scott Lonergan joins the round table as the show explores the intersection of digital addiction and geopolitical shifts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 843 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 843 of the No Agenda show on July 17, 2016. Curry broadcasts from Austin, Texas, while Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts establish the "media assassination" theme for the Sunday program.

adam curry· john c dvorak· gitmo nation· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Open up! Saturday Police, open up. Open the door! Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday July 17th 2016 and time for your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 843 This is no agenda Being from the future can really suck sometimes. As we continue to broadcast live from the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas, FEMA region six in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where being from the past can really suck. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning! Well... I figured it was reflecting on the weather that was ruining the bit We're all good. We're all good as we start off today's program

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Baton Rouge Police Ambush, DeRay McKesson and George Soros

Three police officers were killed by a lone shooter in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, following reports of a hacked plot involving Black Lives Matter. Activist DeRay McKesson is noted for living in a Baltimore home owned by associates of the Open Society Institute, an organization funded by George Soros. Media coverage from CNN's Erin Burnett highlights the high alert status of law enforcement prior to the attack.

baton rouge· black lives matter· deray mckesson· george soros· erin burnett

00:46 Very sad to say that the intelligence we receive from our network about what possibly could happen in Baton Rouge happened. There's not a lot of information, so there's not much we can say about it on this particular program but apparently three cops have been killed in Baton Rouge by a lone shooter and actually I was going to play this today but now is a good time to play it you'll recall that had received hacked documents, text messages, tweets direct messages and emails from one of the founders of Black Lives Matter. And that there was going to be a Dallas-style attack on cops in Baton Rouge

01:38 I was gonna play this clip to accentuate that that had been mentioned and that the police force knew about it. Good evening, I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight The breaking news an alleged plot to murder police a manhunt on tonight for a suspect who officials say may be conspiring to kill Police authorities in Baton Rouge Louisiana already arresting three people in connection to a possible plot Police say at least eight guns were stolen from a pawn shop over the weekend. One of the suspects, at least one of them telling police they were going to use them to kill law enforcement officers. The Baton Rouge Police Department is on high alert tonight. We took this as a very viable threat

02:14 We have been questioned repeatedly over the last several days about our show of force and why we have the tactics that we have. Well, this is the reason because we had credible threats against the lives of law enforcement in this city and as law enforcement officers that are charged with the protection of this community and in that community as our law enforcement officers. There you go! That was yesterday. Yeah well there ya have it And this happens today So yeah...this is very disturbing And the Black Lives Matter guy has got a book deal in the way I can just see it coming. You mean DeRay MacKesson? Yeah, you arrest him and make a big scene... Just as an extra bit of information that came out couple days ago. This DeRay MacKesson lives in a house which is

03:08 owned by James and Robin Wood in Baltimore, Maryland. But the same address is used for the Baltimore chapter of the Open Society Institute doesn't want to point that out which of course is the Open Society Institute. That's George Soros' deal. Oh he's living in a house paid for by Soros just to put a little perspective into it. Somebody has got to pick up the Soros thread since Glenn Beck stopped doing And I didn't get a lot of sleep. I gotta tell you, this uh... These two things- well actually three things happened in succession We had 28 pages come out right around Was it was? Was this...? Well you have to play the Nothing To See Here then Don't look over here! Nothing to see here

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

9/11 Commission Report, Classified 28 Pages Release

Congress released the long-classified 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report, detailing potential links between the hijackers and the Saudi Arabian government. Media outlets including CBS and PBS are criticized for downplaying the findings by emphasizing subsequent investigations that claimed no institutional Saudi support. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest stated the documents do not change fundamental facts regarding Al-Qaeda funding.

9/11 commission· saudi arabia· josh earnest· cbs news· pbs newshour

03:58 Came out, you know right after all this mayhem took place in Nice. So there's almost no mention of that well of course we'll discuss it today Well actually there was a couple mentions more than a few Oh really? Yes and I want to play these so I think we should go right into that Let's do it You read the document I did I read the document I'm sure you did Well, it's because it was short. Yeah and were you surprised by anything in said document? Yeah a couple of things I think because they named names yeah Banda Har whatever that guy is who used to be on TV all the time who seems to be a bad actor

04:38 And it was a very...it seemed to me when I read it, I came away with the following thought. Hold on. Do we need to just set up what this is for people who don't? Oh yes please set it up so that maybe somebody doesn't know because they sure wouldn't find out listening in the news The 9-11 Commission Report which was kind of destined to fail with underfunding and delays and delays and finally in 2003 this thing came out and you know we all know pretty much what it said But there were pages omitted. The legendary 28 pages, had these pages as we learned about them and now we're what? We're now 15 years later... We figured out pretty much what was in there was implication that a lot of the hijackers doing air quotes had close ties to Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia in the consulate and

05:31 You know that this was omitted and had been Shoveled away and classified classified is top secret. Yes top secret So so that we would not mess And that's what the document actually states because of the relationship with United States in Saudi Arabia That was not prudent to let the public see that And, as the tale continued a number of congressmen saw it and they said it should be released. They were shaking their fists at Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia obviously had somebody see it and they said if we reveal it will be the end of our relationship, they're going to pull all their bonds out...

06:15 Oh my, very close. They're going to do all these things and then the next thing you know there's enough pressure to get the document released yeah and so I'm okay now that so you and i both read it I look at it I think he was incredibly incredible indictment of Saudi Arabia I completely agree If you read the document, and it's linked in the last newsletter an actual PDF of the full document. And that is in the show notes. It's in the show notes today as well but there's not that much redacted. There's enough to disannoying but... True! But with or without the redactions which took some people's names out they left other names in I don't know who did this but it was poorly done

07:03 It sounds to me as though Saudi Arabia financed the whole damn thing. And I also read, the way I perceived it CIA was holding back a lot of information from FBI they were not transparent or they weren't open with information they had in fact I think CIA lied to FBI just from the way i read some piece of the document. I think you could easily say that now with that in mind What you just heard from us, I want you to play the clips away. The media handled this so let's start now what you just heard from us. Now play here's how CBS handled it. This is the 1128 pages on CBS today Congress made public 28 formerly top secret pages from its investigation into 9-11

07:58 The pages detail suspicions at the time of links between the hijackers and the Saudi government. Though 15 hijackers were Saudis, two investigations have found no evidence that the Saudi government supported them." That's pretty funny! So don't look at all the other ones that were completely tied into Saudi Arabia. Just mention the two that weren't. And don't look at 28 pages! They say, there were 28 pages released and a bunch of people are hot Saudis but 2 other investigations said there was nothing to it so don't look over here. That was the entire... back.

08:54 Because believe me democracy now didn't do much better, but they'll bring somebody it's an expert on eventually meaningless right so PBS I figure well. They're gonna do a little Better you had hope you had hope you had hope for PBS yes Yeah, I'd say well that was a cover-up It was of horrible report they should be ashamed to themselves at CBS or doing that because again You read it? I read it. It was indictment of Saudi Arabia no question about it Yes And anyone who reads it will say, let's come back with the same thing. But they don't want you reading it so lets listen to PBS and its fantastic in-depth report In the day's other news, Congress released a long classified section of its report on the 9-11 attacks. It details possible links between the hijackers and officials in Saudi Arabia but it also notes that subsequent investigations found no such links at White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said today the information does not change the fundamental facts They didn't find any evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded al Qaeda

09:55 That's the definitive word of the outside experts who took an unvarnished look at this particular situation. And that conclusion is unchanged." The Saudi ambassador to the US said today, the released information quote absolutely exonerates his government. I love the kicker! That is great. Hey clearly you read the 28 pages as you can tell we did nothing wrong Now, now the num- there's a number of crazy things. Wait wait no I'm just stopping. I'm gonna give you double shot just cause you deserve it for those two. Ah those are great! That's fantastic

10:36 Now, this particular clip from PBS had a number of interesting things. It almost implies that the 28 pages talks about the future reports that will be written. It was slipped in there in a very odd way of putting it she says and it just was a very strange report. It made it sound as though the 28 pages referred forward to something that would be done in the future And then Ernest comes on and he says, well there's no evidence that there was an institutional contribution. He uses the word government institutional as though there were some agency set up just to blow up the towers so he kind of weaseled his way out of that one

11:22 Then I don't know whose idea it was to put in the kicker, which was telling us that the Saudi government says they're exonerated. That is corruption at the highest level. It's gotta be one of the people that sponsors The News Hour. This is the problem with sponsored underwritten crap like this. Looking through the redacted parts trying to guess what the black lines mean... Black Lines Matter? Yes. Oh! I just made up a new one. That's pretty good I think there's implications of Israel in there too. Well, maybe but like you said it wasn't enough redacted It wasn't very powerful if that's true Maybe in some hints But I actually doubt that They have some crazy stuff in there It was a crazy thing to read and listen to these reports from the media

12:17 downplaying it, just lying blatantly lying about it hoping that nobody really pays any attention. I'll just pick a random page random paragraph for former assistant special agent in charge and San Diego testified that FBI received numerous I would say half a dozen reports quotes from individuals who believe that Al-Bayoutumi was a Saudi intelligence officer the FBI's November 18th response is inconsistent as to whether FBI currently is designating him as a suspected Saudi intelligence officer. In his response, FBI notes that he blacklined until after September 11th but the response also states there was no evidence to conclude that he was a Saudi intelligence officer so I mean yeah I can write reports like this it's the reverse of what The New York Times does

13:07 You know, this can happen. This can happen at the end of the report is go we'll see what happens! I mean this is exactly the same thing hey looks like he was an intelligence officer but we don't really have the evidence and come on... Well they did have the evidence on a lot of people Absolutely but even that's the softest one That's the softest accusation People should read this thing and tell me what you just heard from the media especially CBS Is accurate and you'll determine it's not. And I guess they managed to brush it, maybe the whole thing was a...I don't know who pressured who to just not say much about it but its there if you want to read it. I guess nobody in the media wants to read so okay that is just the way it is. It was very frustrating as the 28 pages come out and um... Nice happened and at a certain point

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Nice Truck Attack, Media Coverage and Radicalization Claims

A terrorist attack in Nice, France, involving a truck driven into crowds, resulted in mass casualties. Initial reports were difficult to obtain due to US media focus on the Republican National Convention, leading to a reliance on Sky News. ISIS claimed responsibility through Rita Katz's SITE Intelligence Group, while the attacker's father described his son as mentally unstable rather than a long-term radical.

nice france· sky news· isis· rita katz· mohamed lahouaiej-bouhlel

14:01 News that was hat that had any kind of information Was sky news which you can get on YouTube on one of their live channels Of course, I have BBC world Which is total crap BBC we did it. We can't report anything because we don't know if it's true yet Okay, so they had nothing how does that stop anyone NBC? CNN MSNBC Fox they were all set up at the convention in Ohio. So, they had no resources. In fact Fox at a certain point was just put on... of course, it's a Murdoch property, just streamed Sky News live. Yeah that's handy. And so it was extremely difficult to get any information but what happened on my end

14:43 I got to use the phrase, what the Millennials like saying. I've never used it before... My phone was blowing up! I'd like to tell you. My phone was blowing and through the app that i was using I was actually able to transpose that into an outline with timestamps exactly of what the information I was getting in real time as it was coming in. And there's so much we did not hear about, so much! It's really... Paris, in Paris itself two guys were apprehended with a van full of explosives trying to blow up the Eiffel Tower

15:26 Wow, I didn't hear that either. There was a guy in Nice who was apprehended with the machete there was another truck with two guys apprehended A lot of stuff was going on...a lot of things and Of course we heard none of that None of that Let me see but do have a couple of clips Yeah, I have they've and both of them may have nothing to do with any of the good stuff But it's just I think they were interesting clips One of them is the ISIS taking responsibility way after the fact for this, even though it's possible that they did have something to do with it. But we don't know. Well, the ISIS and to be fair, but ISIS taking responsibility once again came from Rita Katz. Oh, was this on this last one? Was a Rita Katz thing? Yes. And but Rita didn't have one for the Istanbul airport couple weeks ago

16:17 Okay, so there's something crazy about this but it sounds bogus anyway. So let's play this ISIS claims Nice Islamic State has claimed responsibility for Thursday night's terrorist atrocity in the French city of Nice In a statement It said the attacker was one of its soldiers who answered the call to target citizens of states fighting the terror group The man responsible for the massacre was a Tunisian-born heavy goods driver from Nice. He was known to police but had no record with either the French or Tunisian intelligence services There are reports his behavior had changed dramatically prior to the attack, he became aggressive and began to mention ISIL in conversations Initially authorities said there was no evidence linking him to any terror group But they later said he'd been radicalized very quickly

17:04 Now, the only reason I like this clip is because of somehow this new idea of radicalizing overnight. Well, I can back this up a little bit as what his father said in some interview was he was mentally unstable... Yes, I actually have that clip too. Oh! I want you to play that and then I have one to... Okay, play Maniac and Niece A little bit more light was shed on this tragedy today, Scott. When Mohamed Bilal's father gave an interview in Tunisia where he lives and he did confirm that his son had a history of mental illness and had in fact suffered several breakdowns in the past. Liz Palmer in East Forest tonight thanks Liz

17:49 So you'll recall on Thursday's show I played a clip from Richard Stengel, Undersecretary of State for Public Affairs. This was the guy who was saying well you know sometimes ISIS has a positive message that the digital caliphate is waning so here's what's going on! I think now because the digital caliphate is shrinking they are looking for people who have mental health issues who are psychotic and they're trying to pinpoint those So that's why I made that clip because we did play that lockstep lock step again again. We're ahead of it uh-huh sadly now okay, so Before going into what you know an analysis or we think

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Fox News Analysis, Al-Qaeda Inspire Magazine Tactics

Fox News coverage featuring Catherine Harridge and Megan Kelly links the Nice attack to a 2010 edition of Al-Qaeda’s Inspire magazine. The publication, associated with Anwar al-Awlaki, reportedly encouraged using trucks as "mowing machines" for civilian targets. Analysts suggest the "inspired by" narrative serves to indirectly criticize the Obama administration's drone program and counter-terrorism efficacy.

megan kelly· catherine harridge· anwar al-awlaki· inspire magazine· fox news

18:32 is going on. A couple of key points, actually Megan Kelly I have to say had a couple she did an hour long show and she had a lot of fabulous people on but a lot with the same message and she started off with if you don't mind me doing this little package of clips here uh she started off with the spy pixie girl uh Harridge oh yeah And so she kind of sets the tone and that tells us what's up and what we need to believe about this particular attack. A U.S. government official tells Fox News that the Homeland Security Secretary, Jay Johnson is receiving regular updates on the attack The official said given the indicators a soft target in a major economic tourist hub on the French national holiday it all points to terrorism and ISIS has become more brazen in its targets and plots

19:25 The official said they are quote starting with terrorism and then working back the official said a threat stream for trucks used as killing machines or laden with explosives Was not in today's intelligence brief nor in recent days and described the attack in Nice as quote a surprise that they were in fact blindsided. Tonight, two sources including one that tracks jihadist social media report that ISIS accounts are quote celebratory and telling followers to use the niece hashtags this is not a claim of responsibility and these are not leadership accounts but it gives I like that these are not leadership accounts this is not a claim of responsibility but it all came from Rita Katz so that's where these messages came from

20:08 This is not a claim of responsibility and these are not leadership accounts, but it gives us a flavor of the attack's immediate impact. And a former senior intelligence official is drawing our attention tonight to al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and this fall 2010 edition of its propaganda magazine, Inspire. Where it calls on followers to use trucks as killing machines to mow down civilians. Al Qaeda and ISIS share the same tactics but al-Qaeda has really been the one to champion these styles of plots with trucks Megan Catherine, thank you. You're welcome So at first I thought well this is just a little spy pixie girl Just pulling something out to make it report interesting to reach back to a 2010

20:52 Inspire magazine written by Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula about using trucks and vehicles, which by the way is a... The Palestinians have been doing this for years. This is nothing new but then she brings on the same... A couple minutes later former speechwriter for George W Bush So you know that guy knows something. And here's what he had to say... called Open Source Shihad, which were published in 2010. And one of those articles described exactly what happened in Paris today This was the magazine that was published by Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan who are two Al Qaeda terrorists American born Al Qaeda terrorists In this article The Ultimate Mowing Machine Let me just read you this because it's exactly what happened The ultimate mowing machine I like the fact that he says Paris instead of Nice Oh yeah But the guy is

21:52 First of all, I'd be saying oh! I remembered all of a sudden this 2010... The guy probably wrote it. He probably wrote it! Al-Qaeda terrorists and this article the ultimate mowing machine let me just read you this because is exactly what happened The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine not to mow grass but to move down the enemies of Allah Pick your location Hold on a second He said, this is exactly what happened. And it's not at all! It's not a pickup truck. No its not at all and for one thing there was no old pickup truck involved Oh no But that's just amazing The ultimate mowing machine let me just read you this because this is exactly what happened The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine Not to mow grass but to mow down the enemies of Allah

22:36 Pick your location and timing carefully. Go for the most crowded locations to achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control of your vehicle in order to strike as many people as possible in your first run. The ideal location is a place where there are maximum number pedestrians and the least number vehicles if you can get through pedestrian only areas that exist in some downtown city areas that would be fabulous! And finally this is the kicker access to firearms carry them with you so that you may use them to finish off your work if your vehicle gets grounded during the attack. The idea would be implemented in countries like Israel, the US Britain Canada Australia and France

23:15 That is exactly what happened tonight. Al-Qaeda published it in 2010 in their magazine, Inspire. This is back to the Anwar al-Awlaki writings which remain on long past his death which some criticized uh...in the drone program. Did you hear what she did there? I thought that was interesting! What she did She said, well actually... This is Harridge again. No this is Kelly. Was Kelly not Harridge? Yeah listen to the whole bit at the end here which some criticized in the drone program. And people continue to find inspiration from that magazine, unfortunately Mark there's not much we can do about it." What she is saying is President Obama gave the kill order for Anwar al-Awlaki

24:07 What I hear her saying is, well this of course you know now we have all this crap coming because this guy has been martyred. He's a hero people are getting inspiration from his writings in Inspire magazine...this whole inspired by thing so indirectly indirectly blaming President Obama for that would be very coy it's coy but i think its intentional and I think there's more behind it now Kelly had this guy, I've seen him before. Former radical fundamentalist who now is wearing the suit and is an analyst. Yes, I know who thi- This guy gets around. I know who it is. I thought he had two little bits from him here

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Maajid Nawaz on Lone Wolf Terrorism and French Policy

Maajid Nawaz, a former fundamentalist, argues that the term "lone wolf" is inaccurate, preferring "self-starter" to describe individuals radicalized by online networks. He suggests jihadists target France specifically due to its stance on free speech following the Charlie Hebdo attack and its ban on face veils. Nawaz posits that these attacks are symbolic gestures against Western secularism.

maajid nawaz· quilliam foundation· hamas· secularism· france

24:48 I thought his explanation of what happened in Nice from a Occam's razor perspective, this is the simplest explanation. I think he nailed it in a minute. Joining us now from London Majid Nawaz who's a former Islamic fundamentalist who now leads a counter extremists Think think tank. Majid, thank you for being here with us again France with its third major terror attack in a year why? Let's be clear I mean these sorts of attacks are not unexpected at least they shouldn't have been Hamas has for years been encouraging its followers to use vehicles to drive up on pavements and kill Israeli citizens

25:25 Meghan, in 2010 Al-Qaeda announced to the world that it wanted its followers to do the same and only two years ago in 2014 ISIS spokesperson Adnani not only encouraged their followers in ISIS to get into vehicles and to mow people down on the streets he specifically said especially in France There are a number of reasons jihadists are angry with France. One of them, among many others as we know is the tragic attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices and their stance on free speech was an honorable praiseworthy stance And the second is the ban on face veils. So jihadists have taken it upon themselves to attack France as a symbolic gesture that symbolizes generally an attack on the West. Very good messaging from him, very good messaging! I think a lot of people will buy into that lock stock and barrel

26:17 Now, he... this is the next part. I liked his wording here as verbiage. What do you think the odds are that this really was a lone wolf? I don't use that phrase. I use the phrase self-starter because these days people are inspired online and offline by all forms of networks By relatives, by people they've been listening to on videos online or by other attacks that they've seen So it's certainly inspired by the jihadist ideology whether they start the operation themselves taking command directly from ISIS headquarters. You know we've looked into this very, very few people if any are lone wolves in the literal sense of that word. Okay I'd like to... She's picked up to this habit of hmmmm and she goes hmmm. Amy has which is mmmm. Actually Amy is mostly hmmmmm That's why I'm leaving it in because she goes hmmmm. Yeah leave it in

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser Proposes War on Political Islam

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, appeared on Fox News to advocate for a new terminology in the war on terror. He suggests the United States should declare war on "political, theocratic Islam" rather than using the term radical Islam. Jasser compares the necessary strategy to the Cold War effort against communism.

zuhdi jasser· political islam· sharia state· theocratic islam· megan kelly

27:08 final clip from this show, which I thought it really was. It was fun to watch you did a good job before whatever. Because I have a Megan clip where she didn't do such a good job. Oh play right after this of course when you have all these issues cropping up You need to bring in someone to represent the Muslim community and Megan brought in Dr. Zudi Yasser who is the co-founder and CEO of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, and he did something very interesting. You know the big problem here in the United States is we cannot... The government will not say radical Islamic terrorism has been obfuscated from all the training materials. We have to be politically correct you can't use these terms so this guy comes in and sets us up

27:58 In his one two sentences for the new term he would like us to use as a Muslim I'll tell you who loves my country and loves freedom is about defeating political Islam It's about defeating the Sharia state And yes, you know I agree with the jailer that we need herb leaders do it because they're drinking from the same drug The intoxicant of theocratic Islam their sharia state so what we need to land on is is develop a strategy that We call the enemy and declare war Just like we did in the Cold War against communism. Declare war against political, theocratic Islam." So it should be political, theocratic Islam? I have a feeling that may get legs... No! Yeah it will if you want- It's so dumb. I'll put five bucks on it. Done. Five bucks done. Five bucks yeah this is it's so nutty that I think oh this is a good way to explain it. It's too long

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

France Security State Extension, July 23rd Warning

President François Hollande extended France's state of emergency for three months following the Nice attack. Speculation arises regarding potential future targets, specifically Gay Pride events in Amsterdam and Berlin scheduled for July 23rd. The political climate in France is noted as favorable for Marine Le Pen as the public reacts to the ongoing security crisis.

francois hollande· marine le pen· berlin· gay pride· security threat

28:50 Well, it's shorter than radical Islam. TLDR I mean come on! Now a couple of things i noticed that happened very early on one president Hollande made a statement saying but hey we were gonna stop the security threat on the 26th of July We're extending it for another three months which is you know they big deal So it was handy for him, I'm sure he wanted that. Remember he is also in a re-election... what would you call it? In a re-election cycle. Yes campaign A campaign yeah thank you He's not that popular anymore Well no of course not his biggest worry I'm sure is not about citizens I'm sure his biggest worry is how am I going to get reelected the Le Pen or someone's gonna get this because people are freaking out

29:46 Yeah, this is right up. This is perfect for Le Pen So what happened here? You know this quickly radicalized thing Is of course the key and how that happened or who that who who radicalized him or how you know Just how he got into this frame of mind will probably never know but there's a lot of ways and a lot of Actors who could make that happen But the result, of course I get lots of boots on the ground reports from people Even even the FBI when they get some guy who's like one of these characters and they drive them You know take him down to primrose path to push in a button It takes him really six months to nine months to a year sometimes. They get these guys to commit Yeah, it was quick radicalization thing is very sketchy certainly is

30:38 And just how it all went down. I mean, we really have just sketchy reports but man this was a game changer! I think is a real game changer in what's happening and I hate to be from the future but... ...I would keep July 23rd in mind as a date if we're looking at- If this is the new normal I love saying that. If this is the new normal, but killing and killing people with vehicles is not new. I mean this has happened all over Europe and in the Middle East. This is just not a new thing but... It happened with a bus in San Francisco by accident. But this was really-this was a big one July 23rd will be Gay Pride Day simultaneously celebrated in Amsterdam and Berlin

31:33 You know, my theory has always been if you want to get attention you've got to start killing gays. Now Amsterdam it's the canal gay pride which logistically is difficult I think too well... you're not going to drive a truck into the canal but if you look at the Strasse in Berlin where this is being held actually have a picture for You know, it's like a 12-lane road and straight as an arrow. And that is going to be filled with people I'm just saying it. It would be yeah...an interesting target The Germans are..I think they have their act together enough to prevent it but we'll see We will see Back to this clip I have of Kelly losing it This was about... Oh yes everybody save the date everybody July 23rd Save the Date

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Megan Kelly Sharia Law Debate, Ahmadiyya Muslim Community

A Fox News segment featuring Megan Kelly and Newt Gingrich sparked controversy over Gingrich's proposal to deport Muslims who believe in Sharia law. The subsequent panel discussion with Imam Azam Akram and Sheikh Ahmed Salman became chaotic when the guests were misidentified and began arguing over the definition of Sharia. The hosts characterize the segment as a "jaw-dropping disaster" due to the lack of clarity.

megan kelly· newt gingrich· sharia law· ahmadiyya· brigitte gabriel

32:33 So you mentioned Sharia and all this, and there's a big discussion about it because of what Newt Gingrich did. Which was in fact I think is in this clip. Newt Gingrich comes out and says that... There were who believes in Sharia should be deported from the US and it became a big everybody brought it up as a talking point Gingrich of course taking any pressure off at Trump for saying crazy stuff. Mm-hmm and And Kelly she brings drops the clip, and then she decides to bring on three people to discuss sharia law and end the clip and She brings on two Imams from the same cult It's like not even normal Shia Shiite She, Sunni.

33:16 Islam, it's these other guys. It's some other group I think they're the same group that they persecute in Pakistan and they're both from this group and they can't say don't know what they're talking about They can't say anything Their just babbling And one guy just babbles away and it confuses her so much That she starts to blah blah And then she ends...I didn't play put the whole thing in there Because it gets worse Okay But let's just play this clip ISIS affiliated groups are promising that The violence we saw in Nice France is likely To continue across the globe And Newt Gingrich is taking some heat tonight for suggesting that American Muslims who subscribe to Sharia law should actually be deported. Here's what Gingrich told Sean Hannity last night. Western civilization is in a war, we should frankly test every person here who is of Muslim background and if they believe in Sharia they should be deported. Sharia is incompatible with western civilization

34:14 Azam Akram is imam of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in Chicago. Brigitte Gabriel is a New York Times bestselling author and president of Act for America, and Sheikh Ahmed Salman is imam of the Dar es Salaam Mosque in San Francisco. Thank you all so much for being here. Ahmed, let me start with you on this and your thoughts on Newt's proposal to potentially deport American Muslims who follow Sharia law? First of all, thank you Megan for having me. That's fine. To begin with Kelly I think Newit Gingrich does not know anything about you. Did he just call her Kelly instead of Megan? Hey Kelly! He called her I think so and he says New it knew it knew it instead of newt

35:01 By the way, it starts off bad with the two guys talking over each other because she called out the wrong guy. Yeah yeah that's what threw her off I think. That got a little frazzled. First of all, thank you, Megan, for having us on. That's for Ahmed—sorry. To begin with, Kelly, I think, knew it in Gingrich and doesn't know anything about Sharia. Thank you, Kelly. Before he understands Sharia—if we talk about Sharia, it stands totally on the basis of justice. What we see in the United States as the Constitution, it is on the basis of justice and

35:39 The Holy Quran teaches that we have to obey by the law of the land. So this is what Sharia is Now in order for Gingrich to know more about this you can come to my mosque in Dar es Salaam Mosque, House Of Peace where we can talk more about Sharia on that matter But, but Brijeev what about I mean. She's just blowing it. Now she says completely, because the guy said nothing he said and then he plugs his mosque The other guy pretty much does the same thing and plugs his mosque I think he throws a website out there There are these two jokers who should have never been booked in the first place And got her all frustrated and then meanwhile this woman that was there who has been on before she is just like a you know

36:36 goes nuts about these guys being full of crap and neither one of them representative of anything. And it was just a whole segment, it was just like the jaw-dropping disaster." Yeah. And then he calls her Kelly. That's pretty good! Well on Sharia, just to tie into it, the new Prime Minister of Britain Theresa May She made, this is a short clip but it's a statement about Sharia in the UK and what she's going to do about it to investigate its what's going on. But just listen to the words and maybe I misunderstood or reading too much into it but let's listen. For too long I think politicians in this country

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Theresa May and Sharia Law Review in UK

British Prime Minister Theresa May announced a review of Sharia law operations in the UK, chaired by Professor Mona Siddiqui. The review aims to determine if Sharia councils discriminate against women or counter the nation's single rule of law. The hosts debate whether these councils function as private clubs or parallel legal systems that threaten national sovereignty.

theresa may· mona siddiqui· united kingdom· sharia courts· rule of law

37:16 Notice she uses my favorite word which is in this country. She don't love her country, you don't love your country lady? For too long I think politicians in this country refused to look at the issue of Sharia law and just allowed this to continue without any question So far so good! I've been the politician who's been willing to say no I'm concerned that Sharia Law is operating in a way that could discriminate against women and that it could be counter to what our single rule of law that we have in the UK. So there is one rule of law in the UK, but that's why I've set up the review that I have chaired by Professor Mona Zdeiky and that will be looking at the operation of Sharia Law and whether it is actually operating to discriminate against women and counter to our overall rule of law." So here she mentions that same Zdeiki guy who we heard on... no that's a different guy, sorry, Zdeiki

38:12 But what I hear her say is, it's operating in Britain and we know about it. And we're just going to check and make sure if it's compatible with our laws. Is that what you heard? Yeah exactly Well that's an outrage Well, there should be no... There's only one rule of law and she saying but we'll check it. Let me just listen to what I have to say. Okay um and but that's why i've set up the uh the review that I have chaired by Professor Mona Siddiqui uh and that will be looking at the operation of Sharia Law and whether it is actually operating discriminate against women and counter to our overall rule of law so it's okay it's operating a business going on we're just gonna make sure it's okay come on

38:57 Well, what are you concluding here? That it's going on and she's not really gonna do much about it. Well how is it different from a men's club that has its rules and if you're a member of that club and you have some dispute The club makes decisions that may or may not be discriminatory because you've ascribed to the rules of the club. How is it any different than Sharia? In Great Britain, they have all these Sharia centers are all over the place where people they have a dispute and you know guys wife isn't giving him enough sex he goes in there and then they chop her hand off but they don't do the chopping

39:39 In any of these places they don't do anything like that. They just give you it They give rulings, but they don't do any of the stonings or choppings or that anything really bad It's I don't see it any different than then then the Commonwealth Club Or the Olympic club in San Francisco or there were the century club in New York You can't just do anything and not to have the club within the clubs by Within the club's rules and not be punished so what's the difference? uh Well, you got me John. It's okay we should probably have it here too just have the Sharia Club good to go I'm just saying yeah no but i hear you sir it is it acts as a club and unless you want to start cracking down on all these clubs... I'm fine with that too! We crack down on clubs all the time for racism for exclusionary practices for anti-semitism we crack down on them all the time You don't crack down on all of them? No not not the sharia clubs

40:37 No. So to me... What she should have said, what the British people want to hear is there's one rule of law we're going to make sure that if a crime takes place Because they're, you know like adultery considered a crime by Christian values. We will make sure that if something needs to be... just picking an example Something that it will be prosecuted in it by British law and you can't have your own little courts Okay there's no law against adultery in Britain that I know of I'm not so sure about that. I don't think there is, people have affairs all the time. Okay let's take Texas, Texas has adultery laws and that is a divorceable offense. Let's take California where there are no adultery laws that I know of

41:25 And so you commit adultery and that's okay. You're fine, you're good to go but because you've subscribed to the Sharia system and you're a Muslim and you feel obliged to go to the Sharia guys tell you no, you can't do this but what are you going to do? Are you gonna kill the guy? Can't do that because that is against the law So they're abiding the law They're within the legal system cause the Sharia system in England they're not executing anybody You know, I don't have a reply for you there. I just think that is not the message the British people want to hear

42:02 Well, what I'm saying is nobody wants to hear. Right? Okay. There's other issues with Sharia that you have to deal with which is it wants to supersede when you get that situation where it wants to take over and we should have a Sharia law the whole thing lives in the law of the land That's the issue These bullshit Sharia clubs as I call them yeah, I think are beside the point I think they're distractions In fact they lead to my argument okay Which is not really the point. My argument's not the point The point is? The point is that these countries that have subscribed to Sharia and make it the law of the land where they can impose the entire system which includes killing you for different things like adultery, That's different John in a country where you cannot even tweet

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

French Civil War Warnings, Manuel Valls Statement

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls faced criticism for stating that France must learn to live with terrorism. Meanwhile, intelligence chief Patrick Calvar warned that further attacks could spark a civil war within the country. The discussion touches on the ghettoization of Muslim populations in France and the potential for domestic conflict.

manuel valls· patrick calvar· france· civil war· terrorism

42:55 something negative about migrants without being arrested for hate speech. It's a little odd! Yeah, okay. The French Prime Minister came out and he said some very annoying things the French did not like this. Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. We should learn to live with terrorism. He says times have changed well, I just moved to Israel Yeah if you don't want any terrorism yeah exactly And then was it was it the same foreign minister? I think who came out and he said let me see if I have a clip of that I may not but he said we're going to respond with full force and that was rather underreported

43:54 But he was very clear, we are going to go full force. At the same time the intelligence official, intelligence chief for France... what's his name here? Patrick Calabar, he said another terrorist attack could spark a civil war in France But this is these are things not to say in the heat of the moment See how that's possible. Oh the front well hey, the French are no strangers to you know make mixing it up a way but Better excuse than a couple of maniacs I don't you know i've talked to

44:45 A lot of French who are sympathetic with the Muslims in their country. And they can, I got into an argument with one of them and they said that the situation was poverty it was that they couldn't get work if you're gonna get there was jobs It was a job's poverty related thing has nothing to do with anything right? I'm not buying that by the way But well, there is ghetto. There is not see the seeds of a civil war Well, there's lots of ghettoization I mean, we're on the brink of a civil war here ourselves. You know, a form of it's not going to be North versus South but we have a black versus white thing happening right now. Those are all different than civil wars is where

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Bataclan Torture Allegations, John Bolton and French Suppression

Former UN Ambassador John Bolton discussed reports of suppressed testimony regarding the Bataclan theater massacre, alleging victims suffered extreme acts of barbarism and torture. A French government committee reportedly heard testimony about disfigurement and mutilation that was kept from the public to prevent an overreaction. The hosts express skepticism regarding the logistics of such acts given the official timeline of the attack.

bataclan· john bolton· torture· france· commission of inquiry

45:27 You know, civil wars are different. They're bigger. They're massive. They're huge. The ones that were ever overthrowing the government burning down the White House to Congress of the Senate how everything goes I mean it gets is there a save today? Is there saved the date for that for burning down the White House? Save the date. Save the date everybody. So this is just a lot of blather well so now we transition unless you have more specifically on Nice I'm done with Neese. Okay, transition Judge Judy Jeanine... Judge Jeannene that's what it is. Judge Jeannene Your favorite. She now again everyone's on location in Ohio because that's where all the bloodshed is gonna flow Everyone's ready for that we'll get to that later Bring your band-aids Especially after today bring your band-aid On there the most elitist douche we know John Bolton former ambassador to United Nations and judge Janine loves him

46:24 Yeah, and he's good TV. And he brought out a story that I've been following for a couple of days now that you may have heard about And I have a lot of questions about. Here we go. You know, this is France three times they had Charlie Hebdo the Bata clans and now Nice Why is this happening in France? What is unique about France why France as opposed to the other countries Well, I think between France and Belgium it they are magnets for people from the Middle East speaking French former French colonies And I think they're particularly vulnerable. You know, I was in Paris the weekend before the attack on Nice there were armed uniformed military all over the center of Paris apparently not in Nice and some of the other cities and just revealed earlier this week to show what the mentality of the French government is

47:14 a testimony about the torture that the victims of the Bata clan killing suffered before they died. That you can't even repeat on this newscast, that the French government suppressed not telling, not treating the citizens of France like adults to let them know what the criminals these terrorists are. Why? I think because they share, President Hollande of France shares with President Obama a fear that when people learn the real terrorist threat that in their minds we will overreact meaning we'll defend ourselves Thanks Obama Now, have you read this torture report from the Bataclan? I have not. Okay... now uh i have issues with the information we already have about Bataclan it was supposed to be three people two of them blew themselves up uh you know we know about the death toll so this started circulating probably Thursday as well and it is a French government committee

48:16 who has heard testimony which is being claimed to be suppressed by the French government. You heard Bolton right there say it's so horrible that we can't even mention on the air, well of course because it's Fox but no agenda show can mention on the air So here is Okay, this is a question and answer because that's what this report is. It's in French. There are many translations of it. For the information of the Commission of Inquiry can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan? And the investigator says after the assault we were with colleagues at the passage of Pierre Amelot and I saw a weeping from one of our colleagues who came outside to vomit he told us what he had seen

49:04 acts of torture on the second floor. And the bodies cannot, had not been presented to family members because of the following things that apparently happened People were disemboweled Women had their genitals stabbed Some men have their testicles cut off and shoved into their mouth Eyes were gouged out like with a knife punctured in the eye and sliced down the right hand side of someone's face So Somehow, and this is the problem I have with this. If it really was only three terrorists two of which detonated themselves how exactly did this happen? Did one of them go upstairs to the second floor to gouge everybody's eyes out and cut off testicles and stuff them into people's mouths while one other guy was watching a hundred people? Even the timeline is very odd

50:04 But it is an official government committee testimony, so you know it's just testimony. And apparently Daesh as they call it took photos and videos of this with the intent to use it in future propaganda films Now this is interesting to me because there was another report that came out about ISIL And it was like, I don't know where this was floating around. I didn't really pick up on it but there was a similar report about what they're doing behind the scenes and it included eye gouging

50:41 So I believe eye gouging is going to be some sort of a meme. Well, I like the testicles in the mouth thing made famous by the Mexicans. Yeah, they're members of the Italian mafia? Is that what that implies or are the Mexican drug lords do that? I think the Mexican drug lords do the testicles and mafia does penis Okay, there is this there's code. You know it was code of conduct we do things differently in the mob So you know This what you're saying is because if as a hectic situation who had time to do this cool? Yeah, but wait no if you read the report about the Klan and The you know this has not been mentioned by any survivors. This is just it's missing

51:25 Photos and video apparently exist. We haven't seen it yet, but it's supposed to be used in the future And why would the French government suppress this yet? It leaks out and here we have John Bolton who is a douche of the highest order What we know he's douche douche of the highest order You know propagating this and that's all you're so horrible. We can't even talk about on this network Yeah, didn't say something you couldn't talk about I agree So why didn't they talk about it? Why are you talking about it? Why didn't they talk about it? It wasn't like a bunch of...it wasn't crazy. I was like, never heard anything like that before." Well he's only using it as a propagandistic tool to say how crazy these people are. Hmmmm....I just find the report very very difficult to believe

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Turkey Military Coup Attempt, Erdogan and Fethullah Gulen

A failed military coup in Turkey resulted in President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's consolidation of power and the arrest of thousands. John Bolton and other analysts discuss the secular nature of the Turkish military as a historical check against Islamism. Erdogan has demanded the extradition of cleric Fethullah Gulen from Pennsylvania, accusing him of orchestrating the uprising.

turkey· recep tayyip erdogan· fethullah gulen· john bolton· military coup

52:16 Yeah, but it's there. It's there so Bolton then transitioned into what I thought was a decent backgrounder on what happened in Turkey And we can get into that now. I just thought it was interesting that he uses the present tense for Osama bin Laden

52:57 It may just be a mistake, but as if he's still alive. Europe-oriented secular Muslim, but secular government no established religion. He abolished the last Islam... Can I stop for second? Just on that thought If he was still alive Bolton would be the last guy to know True. It's just a matter of form. He abolished the last Islamic caliphate, that is why Osama bin Laden and ISIS are so intent on creating another one. And Mustafa Kamal thought if we could... Was Osama bin Laden intent on creating a new caliphate? An Islamic state? I don't think that was ever his messaging was it? I do not think so either and the reason I say this because the ISIS people when they started, when they declared their caliphate were doing it because

53:43 Osama's group weren't interested in that sort of thing. They didn't want to establish a political base No, they wanted to be this movement movement That's all it is some movement not as another state didn't want a state so that's bullcrap Yep, this is are so intent on creating another one And Mustafa Kemal thought if we couldn't break free of this Islamic hold, we would never make Turkey a modern country. So for 100 years the military was the guarantee against establishing Islam as the state religion. Erdogan has been clearing that away so I believe this coup was kind of last ditch last gasp effort by the pro-secular military forces it's been crushed there is no doubt about it. But what interesting ambassador is that it worked in Egypt

54:26 where the Egyptians said, no we don't want you know the Muslim Brotherhood. We don't wanna go radical Islam but the same thing military coup didn't work in Turkey It's a very important comparison because for the past 10 years or more Erdogan has been systematically purging the upper reaches of the Turkish military of pro-secular generals and admirals he's put in personal loyalists and islamists He's done one other thing...He's been purging the judiciary which was kind of a co-guarantor of the secular nature of the state. And I'll just give you a small example today in New York, The UN Security Council was considering a presidential statement it's called by the president and security council supporting the Erdogan government blocked by Egypt

55:12 which said you cannot say that the Erdogan government is democratic. So, the El-Sisi government in Egypt picking up exactly on your point sees what's happening I think this is a very disturbing moment for the United States it could mean the loss of Turkey as an ally I think Erdogan will use the failed coup now as an excuse to crack down. He's arrested thousands of people already, power was turned off at an important U.S air base in Turkey – that was our base exactly yeah. Now Erdogan is also demanding in effect the extradition of Fadula Gulen. Is that going to happen?

55:51 Well, we need to know whether in fact Gulen did have any involvement in this. We have U.S. laws against that sort of thing. Extradition. But on the other hand I think if he's extradited he'll never see the light of day again so we have to be very careful about bowing to Erdogan's demand here. Well, he certainly is going to be acting quite differently now He doesn't need to be as moderate as he was It's very disturbing you can't really calculate just how bad this is at the moment This is bad Now what I was very proud of just being on all the social networks, is the amount of No Agenda producers who were tweeting and posting saying holy crap we know who this guy is. We know Fatou Lagoulet. I saw that too! We've been hearing this on The NO AGENDA Show for years...for years so I like that a lot but

56:37 But before we move on to anything else, a quick ditty from General Wesley Clark. Of course he is the guy who's always giving us inside info and slipping up in here—we have the Wes Clarke 7—and he came on Anderson Cooper with just a little ditty that…well listen. General Clarke what do you make of what you have been witnessing over these last several hours? Lots of mistakes by the coup executors and we don't know who they really are yet. They're not identified. Mistakes such as? Not arresting the president, not shutting down the internet, not being able to block social media, not having sufficient troops with sufficient power to intimidate protesters... I mean,

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

General Wesley Clark on Failed Coup Tactics

General Wesley Clark appeared on CNN to analyze the tactical failures of the Turkish coup executors, noting they failed to arrest the president or shut down the internet. Clark compares the situation to the 1989 move against Manuel Noriega in Panama, suggesting that for a coup to succeed, the perpetrators must be willing to use lethal force immediately.

wesley clark· turkey· coup d'etat· manuel noriega· anderson cooper

55:51 Well, we need to know whether in fact Gulen did have any involvement in this. We have U.S. laws against that sort of thing. Extradition. But on the other hand I think if he's extradited he'll never see the light of day again so we have to be very careful about bowing to Erdogan's demand here. Well, he certainly is going to be acting quite differently now He doesn't need to be as moderate as he was It's very disturbing you can't really calculate just how bad this is at the moment This is bad Now what I was very proud of just being on all the social networks, is the amount of No Agenda producers who were tweeting and posting saying holy crap we know who this guy is. We know Fatou Lagoulet. I saw that too! We've been hearing this on The NO AGENDA Show for years...for years so I like that a lot but

56:37 But before we move on to anything else, a quick ditty from General Wesley Clark. Of course he is the guy who's always giving us inside info and slipping up in here—we have the Wes Clarke 7—and he came on Anderson Cooper with just a little ditty that…well listen. General Clarke what do you make of what you have been witnessing over these last several hours? Lots of mistakes by the coup executors and we don't know who they really are yet. They're not identified. Mistakes such as? Not arresting the president, not shutting down the internet, not being able to block social media, not having sufficient troops with sufficient power to intimidate protesters... I mean,

57:24 these coups and certainly we're not encouraging it, we're discouraging it. But history shows that if you are going to execute one of these coups you have to really mean it Yes, you have to really mean it but I don't think it was meant... Oh! You didn't play the rest of that Oh, you have the rest? Yeah. You should play my... because it has a little there's an anecdote he throws in at the end of that that I just thought was funny It really had nothing to do with Turkey but the anecdote itself was funny Which clip is it? The under coup? Wesley Clark got it yeah But I didn't receive and this is all of the clip I had so I'm glad you have the rest General Clark what do you make of what you have been witnessing over these last several hours

58:06 Lots of mistakes by the coup executors and we don't know who they really are yet. They're not identified. Mistakes such as? Not arresting the president, not shutting down the internet, not being able to block social media, not having sufficient troops with sufficient power to intimidate protesters... I mean, these crews and certainly were not encouraging it for discouraging it uh... history shows that if you're going to execute one of these clues you have to really mean it may going back to panama in nineteen eighty nine when a man walked in on dictator noriega after couple hours noria get talk to me giving up the pistol and then he shot him because their cool directed to go execute didn't really mean it so in this case uh... i think

59:00 All the indicators to me look like it's not successful now. He didn't really mean it So guy walks in give me your gun okay, boom shit without thinking just shoot them immediately Should done an oriega if he wanted to have a coup now before you go any further I want to give you This I have some stuff for us little little package of stuff that is handy as we go through this. Okay, well before you do that then play my secondary clip which is part of the same package No no no I want to open this and then we can go into your clip it's just a nice thing to have open while were talking about this Go to 843 dot grumpy radio dot com

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

NATO Bases in Turkey, Erdogan FaceTime Appearance

The strategic importance of Turkey is highlighted by the presence of numerous NATO and US military bases, including Incirlik. During the coup attempt, President Erdogan famously appeared on FaceTime to rally supporters, a move the hosts find highly unusual. Flight tracking data showed Erdogan's plane in a holding pattern before landing in Istanbul once the situation stabilized.

nato· incirlik air base· facetime· flightradar24· turkey

59:43 843.grumpyradio.com 843.grumpy... Those of you at home can play along! ...dot com Okay, so you have your live notes? Yeah. Okay, actually while just the top there you see Berlin Street just click on that and you can see the street I was talking about the Strasse where the gay pride will be held? Yes that would be running down... You could run down hundreds of people. That'd be great! Now Turkey this is the most important map that i think-I love maps This is turkey and it shows you the NATO bases The US military presence slash bases And uh of course the Navy

1:00:31 Just look at this, Istanbul Rapid Deployable Corps. Ankara US Office of Defense Corporation Partnership for Peace Training Center Center of Excellence Defense Against Terrorism We have Allied Land Command NATO Patriot Missile Batteries we have a missile defense radar I mean who is in charge of this country really when you look at it? NATO and the U.S are in charge Yeah, well Erdogan doesn't probably care for that. No of course he doesn't care for it but it's important to have this in the back your mind and what you see on this page is just a whole bunch of supporting material about what happened and just some things that I don't think...I've not been able to find any other screen grab of Erdogan talking on FaceTime which must piss off Zuckerberg to no end

1:01:21 That he's not using a face bag live. Well that was the weirdest thing to see because him on the FaceTime thing and then some woman holding his head In her hand. Like that is very strange, in fact if you saw that on a movie actually JC pointed this out if you saw that on a movie before we actually saw it in real life you'd think this was really contrived yeah something from Mr. Robot almost and it's like very yes exactly and Well, anyway I mean...I think we've probably come to the same conclusion that this whole thing was phony. But let's- But the question is who did the phony? Erdogan! I don't think so Okay well you can tell me why later but let's play this clip This is a follow up clip to Wesley Clark who said and the reason I'm when Clarke That Clarke clip I thinks it's most important one

1:02:15 Because there are a number of, you can buy. There's two major books out there that you can buy one of them is how to stage a military coup it's available on Amazon and the other one is Coup d'etat which is also available on Amazon and there's a couple of other books that are less important but those two books are they outline exactly how to do it and when Clark came out and made his comment that they botched this thing because they didn't capture the president who was conveniently out of town. Well, hold on just if you look at my map at my page You'll see I have the flight radar track of Erdogan's plane where he was down in the south as a hotel

1:02:59 that has houses and he has a house there. And that's where he was, you'll see further down... ...you'll see that there was a shootout there and he escaped that location via helicopter to get onto his Gulfstream IV and you can see the tracking because he wanted to go land in Istanbul and then it was put into a holding pattern for quite awhile because they said that if he lands than he will be captured shot etc And then... And you believe all this? I'm I have...I'm gonna listen to you. I just want to say, right below that just for your benefit the first propaganda cartoon showing Erdogan and was like coup in Turkey factor fiction portraying him as an actor who is making this up with his popularity soaring. I just want to point out that that is done by Carlos Latouf who's a guy in Brazil but he is always

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

RT Coverage and False Flag Theories in Turkey

RT News coverage highlighted social media conspiracy theories suggesting President Erdogan may have staged the coup to justify a purge of the military. Political cartoonist Carlos Latuff quickly produced imagery supporting the "staged" narrative. The hosts weigh the "Erdogan show" theory against the possibility of a botched NATO or CIA operation intended as a warning to the Turkish leader.

rt news· carlos latuff· false flag· turkey· social media

1:03:59 He always does political cartoons very, very quickly and I think he's an asset by propagating these things. I wouldn't be surprised. And I would say that there was a little bit too much... in fact i have a clip which let me see what it my clip list looks like. I have to put my glasses on constantly sorry That's okay but have you considered a chain? It's a funny idea. It's an horrible idea. This is on RT and RT was very, it was interesting because RT didn't want to listen to this what this woman had to say this is their normal, this is coup, coup, coup RT weird Twitter report. Of potentially failed military coup in Turkey my colleague Emily Sue here you're monitoring all the social apps right now where are the latest feeds getting from Twitter?

1:04:51 Well, Worry now every the question everybody on Twitter is asking what's going to come next? What is President Erdogan going to do following this attempted failed coup and now everybody is saying that they're possibly going to be a purge coming up. And there was even conspiracy theories coming out of saying that this could have been a coup that everyone staged in order to have an excuse to crack down on the military instead you can but of course this is just some people's opinions on Twitter conspiracy theories Not confirmed, but this is the sense we're getting on Twitter and online. Well that's already begun so maybe your people you're following on Twitter are clairvoyant in some degree or they're well up to date of what exactly going because the purge has already started

1:05:32 Alright, now let's take that and deconstruct what went on there. When she says this thing... And it bothers me that there are so many people with this conspiracy theory which I think weakens the idea but because too many people coming out a good one of these things if it was executed well this would never happen She says that there is a conspiracy theory that Erdogan did this on his own and he- The guy who's the RT guy in Moscow He goes yeah yeah trying to get her off that Yeah And why is he, what difference does it make to him whether or not they're going to discuss that part of the conversation? It just I found it very weird that they would do that unless Russia's got some messaging going on and they don't want that message in the pipeline. That's the only thing I could think of their way there was handled and meanwhile there's this

1:06:23 There was a second clip from that same where Wesley Clark comes out and says it was botched. So immediately I think it was done that way on purpose because there are these ways of doing things, and of course you would have to say that Erdogan was attacked because they tried to grab him or something and then failed if that wasn't pretty lame seems to me but let's play this is another little tidbit This is part two, TV station. A very short clip. Well you know the first apparent target one of the first targets of the coup plotters was to go after state television TRT which frankly is not terribly popular in Turkey and we've since learned that has since gone back into the hands of the government

1:07:05 What didn't make sense was the fact that the coup plotters did not go after private television news networks like our sister network CNN Turk, like NTV. So that was another indication that this wasn't... maybe they guys were just incompetent boneheads? Well and everyone I spoke to unanimously said A lot of the internet and networks were not shut down. They just weren't shut down. Now this is something that Erdogan typically has under control, I mean hey look at what he was able to use an iPhone with FaceTime! There's a lot of stuff that just was left open and it seems like that was left open on purpose

1:07:50 Was he on the ground or still flying around in that pattern when he was on FaceTime? No, he was in the hotel room and the hotel is... I have it here. The Hotel Grand Yaziki Club in Turban and photos that I have of that notes page, you know show these are tourists actually Dutch tourists who took pictures of him. You can see the shells on the ground you can see military around the hotel but there was a firefight but he got in a helicopter and the helicopter was shooting down at the troops on the ground

1:08:26 So there was definitely stuff going on. I mean, you can stage a lot of things...I'm not gonna disagree but i want to hear you make the case that this is an Erdogan organized operation ie a false flag for him to gain more power and I'd love to hear how you end up with it. I don't have any more proof do it! I mean I'm not over there to prove this No, I am just asking It seems to me that if you look at the results And who benefits? Yeah. And all the rest of it, it all benefits Erdogan and the whole thing I you know okay you got a bunch of shell casings all over the place that's fantastic Okay then can I make a case why I believe that this was a NATO CIA operation meant as a warning towards Erdogan That has actually come up in the conversation

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

John Kerry and Victoria Nuland Moscow Meeting

Secretary of State John Kerry and Victoria Nuland met with Vladimir Putin in Moscow on the day of the Turkish coup to discuss a proposal for military cooperation in Syria. State Department spokesperson Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau struggled to define the nature of the "proposal" during press briefings. The timing of the high-level meeting is viewed as suspicious given the regional instability.

john kerry· victoria nuland· vladimir putin· syria· state department

1:09:15 It was minor, but I did hear one of the analysts go well is this at least putting him in his place and getting him back on track for the Westernization that's been going on or not going on. And okay, I think it's a much better idea Well, I believe that you know. I'm always thinking we're behind all this stuff and in We did have Newland show up but hold on a second Victoria Kagan noodle men Okay This is where I want to go and I have the package for you I got a package so on the 14th on the day that this all took place not only do we have Victoria noodle man newlands

1:09:59 in Moscow, she's with John Kerry and Joe Biden. All three sitting down with Putin all three of them and the reason for this then this is where we're going to go to the State Department and to the White House to get a little clarity is a so-called proposal that was, as far as I can tell made public or summarily made public the end of June. And the proposal was nothing really new we've heard about hey you know we'd love to have Russia involved as long as you're not killing our guys you know killing the guy's that were funding against Assad and these trifecta went to meet with Putin on the very day this all goes down

1:10:47 And, you know it's not like they're sitting there going oh well you know that just coincidence. No that suspicious very suspicious. Well moreover when... Except for I'd like the explanation why Biden had anything to do with this. For Ukraine because it's a deal we had Biden is in charge of Ukraine his son runs huge ships so this was a Ukraine-Ukraine was part of the negotiation however this trip this proposal has been denied by the White House and the State Department in the oddest way. Of course, they brought the wrong one out. They brought Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau out to answer questions so I have a couple of clips here from the State Department briefing Matt Lee is the guy who points out the elephant in the room about this

1:11:35 this, if this is indeed the proposal which is being denied that there's any proposal strangely. He said well if you're doing this now why couldn't you have done it a couple months ago with obvious results? The kind of proposal that were...that has been presented or that has been presented is being presented now why couldn't it have been presented far earlier Is it wrong to think that had this proposal been made earlier, a lot of lives could have been saved? I would dispute the view that our position has moved. Our position has been consistent which is Assad must go. That there must be space to have discussions and create an area for political transition to move. We have long said we would welcome

1:12:29 Russia's increased focus on ISIL, on al-Qaida in Syria. Our common view is that these groups pose a threat to not only the people of Syria but to both our nations. On your question on timing again I'm not going to get ahead of discussions that may be happening in Moscow Not gonna- of discussions that may be happening in Moscow. She can't even admit that it's going on while everybody knows is happening We have live video of Carrie and Noodleman, but I love how Lavrov will not look at her He will not look at her! He hates her Oh so fun to watch Okay Matt continues because he's correct

1:13:10 If, if why couldn't we have put this proposal together months ago and save thousands of lives? If you really think that this is going to salvage the ceasefire and lead to transition talks or I think it has a chance too. Why wasn't it...why didn't he do it earlier? I mean a lot of thousands of people have died in the interim We are absolutely aware of that You know, we have been consistent in calling not only for the cessation of hostilities to continue in Syria but also to push Russia to exert its influence on the Syrian regime. To make that possible. The mere fact that you're considering doing it is a shift? Yeah I would dispute that

1:13:47 What? I would say, he almost said it like you. What?! Shades of John C Dvorak in the State Department. Considering doing it is a shift Yeah, I would dispute that What? How can you possibly dispute that? It has been the position of the administration That you would not, or that you would deconflict As soon as the Russians sent their planes and people back in last September The position up until now has been nothing other than just this deconfliction exercise. Now, you are considering have proposed or willing to consider Russian proposal. But that's it? That is itself is a shift It is not consistent with your position. You're obviously we're not going to get into... He was so disgusted he gave up on her just gave up but luckily some British chick jumps in Just to be clear as the secretaries Is this proposal coming from the secretary Or is an interagency

1:14:49 So again, I'm not going to comment on specifics of any proposal. But if you say that the secretary's trip is the full backing of the White House and President Obama? You know, I'm not going to characterize that for the White House but I would say that this Secretary is going to present and to have discussions. You see she messed it up there because she flubbed the secretary is going to present I mean have discussions if he's presenting a proposal but apparently the White House has not signed off on it. To present and to have discussions in Moscow that

1:15:36 Here's what she said. The awkward thing is that none of us are talking about a proposal right now. Why is that awkward? Is that this so she's saying well they're not talking about a proposal and we're no he's presenting but it's not a proposal, but...but it's awkward

1:16:17 She's very troubled as not getting out of this easy. The proposal right now, what we're talking about is there are going to be discussions that happen they start tonight when the secretary meets with President Putin They'll continue tomorrow as he meets with Foreign Minister Lavrov Let's see where they go Okay so now we have to go over to the White House To finish up this confusion about this trip We have the Vice-President Did they all travel on the same plane? I'm talking about a national security disaster Do they all fly separately I mean, that's pretty big to have the Secretary of State and the Vice President and the largest neocon shill in the universe Noodleman. And Josh Ernst was asked this question in The White House briefing. There are reports about the US offering Russia some sort of military deal to go after Islamic state through Al Qaeda in Syria. Is that something you can comment on?

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Josh Earnest White House Briefing, Teleprompter Usage

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest addressed questions regarding potential military coordination with Russia against ISIS and Al-Qaeda. The hosts analyze audio of Earnest, noting long pauses and the sound of typing, suggesting his responses were being fed to him in real-time via digital displays on his lectern.

josh earnest· white house· russia· syria· military coordination

1:15:36 Here's what she said. The awkward thing is that none of us are talking about a proposal right now. Why is that awkward? Is that this so she's saying well they're not talking about a proposal and we're no he's presenting but it's not a proposal, but...but it's awkward

1:16:17 She's very troubled as not getting out of this easy. The proposal right now, what we're talking about is there are going to be discussions that happen they start tonight when the secretary meets with President Putin They'll continue tomorrow as he meets with Foreign Minister Lavrov Let's see where they go Okay so now we have to go over to the White House To finish up this confusion about this trip We have the Vice-President Did they all travel on the same plane? I'm talking about a national security disaster Do they all fly separately I mean, that's pretty big to have the Secretary of State and the Vice President and the largest neocon shill in the universe Noodleman. And Josh Ernst was asked this question in The White House briefing. There are reports about the US offering Russia some sort of military deal to go after Islamic state through Al Qaeda in Syria. Is that something you can comment on?

1:17:11 something like that in the works? At present, the United States is not conducting or coordinating military operations with Russia. I know there's some speculation that an agreement may be reached to do so but it's not clear that will happen since that time we have seen the security situation stability erode and that has dealt a setback to efforts to reach up political agreement as relates to our military coordination, we've always made clear that we would welcome a contribution, a military contribution from Russia as long as they were focused on ISIL and al Qaeda's presence in Syria. Unfortunately, we've seen them devote too much of their attention to using their military might to prop up the Assad regime. So the situation that we find ourselves in now is Russia at a crossroads

1:18:05 Russia has to decide for themselves if they're prepared to take the kinds of actions that we've been hoping they would take for quite some time now. And the consequences for Russia are quite grave So, we have Josh Earnest presenting the case that we're going over with some kind of fait accompli which makes zero sense to go over and say hey shape up. We're here in your office shape or you know it's gonna be trouble makes no sense. You might... No, we wouldn't do that. Now you might have heard Ernst's... Not with that group? You might have heard Ernest's cadence, and that is because I chop out—I usually have to chop out all the silences that Kerry and Ernest and of course the president. Because it just takes too long when we don't enough hours in a day but in this case I want to play you a bit of what he just said unedited

1:18:57 And if you have time, and the video's in the show notes. If you have time to go take a look at it... We know he has these displays on his lectern There are two iPad-sized displays While he is answering the question, and you're going to hear it in realtime now He is looking down And then we'll look up and pretty much recite the line he just memorized. And it's really evident in this piece of audio. We've always made clear that we would welcome a contribution, a military contribution from Russia as long as they were focused on ISIL and Al Qaeda's presence in Syria You can just hear someone typing Holy mackerel! That's a great clip of the day It gets better, gets better Unfortunately, we've seen them devote too much of their attention

1:19:56 to using their military might to prop up the Assad regime. So, the situation that we find ourselves in now is Russia's at a crossroads. Russia has to decide for themselves if they're prepared to take the kinds of actions that we've been hoping they would take for quite some time now and the consequences for Russia are quite great. I think you made the point so he's reading this as it gives his type being typed up yes and Why don't they? Okay, well this is... Well first of all I'm gonna take it. First of all, I'm gonna take it first of all. I'm taking it you said it, I'm taking it. But it seems to me that if this guy was in it would they get they got to find a different kind of spokesman that guys can handle the IFB Yeah he wasn't wearing there was no IFB No they never wear an IFB but they should have the IFB and then they could they can take it in real time because I've seen guys do it I can almost do it. Of course! I can do it yeah

1:20:56 And where the guy talks to you and you just, you talk exactly what he's saying in real time with his face so we can get that. So you don't have these long pauses? That was ridiculous! It was pretty obvious and you can see him looking down and just memorizing it. And then it says a line which is like what's the point once you give us the iPad when you read for ourselves Just put on the screens behind them. Just type it up there Okay as I make my case here You made what case? As I'm going to make my case here. I'm going to make it now! I'm waiting... Yeah, just chill. Don't be so dank. It's not that Whatcha Got hasn't been entertaining. Okay thank you. I'm just waiting for the connection That's what i'm here for So we know that Syria

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Geopolitics of Syria Pipelines and Turkish Regime Change

The conflict in Syria is framed as a struggle over competing natural gas pipeline routes involving Qatar and Iran. The hosts propose a thesis that the US and Russia may have reached a deal to stabilize the region, which involved putting pressure on President Erdogan. They suggest Fethullah Gulen's status as a CIA asset makes him a key figure in potential US-led regime change efforts in Turkey.

syria· qatar· iran· pipeline· fethullah gulen

1:21:41 can be pretty much resolved if the United States and Russia make a deal about what is going to happen. This was always intended to be a Libya operation, we're in, we're out, we kill the fucker, get rid of him he runs away whatever people do with him is not our problem We are good to go, we can continue our pipeline with our friends in Qatar and it could right up through Syria Of course that's the main issue with Syria because on the other side we have Assad his supplier and his friends, the Russians saying no we want to have a pipeline from Iran through Iraq and then into our port. And then we can send all kinds of groovy stuff to Europe and around the world. This is what the fundamental issue has always been

1:22:22 Now, if we can fish or cut bait and like we got to stop this because it's out of control. Everyone knows that this is just going nowhere. This is not what it was supposed to be like. We can cut a deal with Putin and will give him something in Ukraine. And these people showing up when this happens to me says Particularly when you take this into account, this is the CNN background of Fethullah Gulen. Now the Turkish president Erdogan wants the man he says he believes is responsible This is who that is A popular cleric who leads a religious movement from his place of self-exile You see him right there on your screen The problem for Turkey is that place is the United States Fetullah Gulen lives in Pennsylvania of all places He lives in the Poconos

1:23:07 Turkish President Erdogan calling on President Obama to arrest and extradite him and hand him over. Keep in mind many American families are very close to the unrest this weekend Turkey is a NATO ally hundreds of US service members and their families are stationed in Turkey, and right now the air bases are secure everyone is reported safe and all military operations so in and out of those air bases are on hold Okay, so Fethullah Gulen is the bad guy and of course we know historically that the gulanists and the Hizmet movement has been a problem for Erdogan inside Turkey because the gulanists were in the legislature. They're in the military they're in the police force and he's been systematically getting rid of them We also know that Gulen is a CIA operative

1:23:57 He was put there by the CIA, the CIA and the State Department arranged his paperwork. And CNN of course in all their wisdom categorized him as a very popular friendly guy and they showed me a video of him just smiling kind of old guy don't mention that he controls 25 billion dollars has madrasas and charter schools and is indoctrinating the entire world with his version of Islam It makes nothing but sense that we sit with Putin and say, listen Vlad actually they don't it's a wall. But what we're going to do here is we're going to show you what we can do with Turkey

1:24:36 And we're going to take this opportunity to push Erdogan into a corner because, you know, we don't like the fact that he offered our base in Sirklik—our base—to you. We don't like that because we have 40 nukes on that base. You'll see that in my notes page I put up and where...you can see pictures of the nuclear weapons. Umm…we control Turkey And we're going to make a deal with you, and of course I don't know exactly what the deal is. And we're putting Erdogan on notice this is the first shoe We can go in and take over this whole place in a heartbeat. We are pulling back, not gonna make it big deal, not killing him or arresting him But this is the warning shot because it's Erdogan who was screwing everything up He is the one that on his own initiative

1:25:26 funding terrorist groups, killing Kurds in Syria and Iraq. His son is the one taking the oil... The guy's a bad actor! He's a super bad actor and now we have I think we have cut a deal with Putin and i believe there will be a follow-on coup and it will be a real one when perhaps Gulen, we don't know someone who's going to do what US media are talking about him he'd be great he would say everything he's friendly as popular That, I think is what happened here. It could just as... Now of course Erdogan says oh well look what I did now i have more power Well that would be the opposite of what we really want We want to show this guy as a dick and were gonna take him out and it will be full on The other shoe will drop

1:26:13 That is the only way I see this. Because if we really wanted to do it, we could do it look at how our bases are. We could do this in a heartbeat would be not a problem at all If we didn't have the meeting in Moscow, I would think differently But this is just not a coincidence that happens at this very moment. I like the thesis It makes more sense than Erdogan trying to put on a show, which is what the thesis would be. Quite a show! There's no thesis that I know of that actually this was an actual coup Did you see the pictures of parliament?

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Turkish Parliament Bombing and Incirlik Air Base Siege

Visual evidence of the bombing of the Turkish Parliament is discussed, alongside reports that Incirlik Air Base was placed under power cuts and a temporary siege. The hosts compare the events to "Operation Valkyrie," the failed plot to assassinate Hitler. They speculate that Turkish intelligence may be aware of US involvement in the coup attempt, leading to the current tensions at the air base.

turkey· incirlik· operation valkyrie· f-16· gulen

1:26:56 that are on that page. No, it did not you had them in a little video? Yeah if you scroll down first you'll see some of the propaganda where television was showing Morocco not Turkey with people on the street I have the list of all the so-called bad actors there you have The Base then you have Erdogan on CNN Turk saying Gulen is the guy then you have pictures of him at the hotel let me see it's in between Where is it? Oh, these soldiers. These soldiers that were by the blue water go up, go up above so above the air, the encircling Air Force Base you see bombed parliament picks. It's an expandable node

1:27:39 I don't see this. Okay, do you see all the so-called... Let's start with the coup in Turkey cartoon. Okay. Underneath that you have Istanbul propaganda photo. Right, everyone knows that one. Then you have this coup gang. And then underneath that bombed parliament picks. Click on that. Oh okay click on that. This shows you..this was not and there were and this video they were in parliament when when the first strike hit. This is some real damage! Okay, so if you're gonna still doesn't that doesn't confirm anything. No no it does it no It doesn't but if you're putting on a show there's a number of things You could I just can't buy the show bit because the show was shitty for him. It wasn't a great show

1:28:25 Well, I'll say this that what bothers me most about the show theory and I like the other theory a little better because I liked the fact that Noodleman had visited Turkey and we've already seen the connection between any time she shows up. And she was there within the last six months every time she shows up all hell breaks loose in the place and that's where she went And what I really don't like about the Erdoğan show is that too many people on social media picked up on it. And very quickly, and I think that cartoon is where it started

1:29:03 That guy, he did all the Arab Spring cartoons. He's quick. He's known as the fastest cartoonist and... Well that means he's getting it free. He's getting early I mean although we can see our artists that can do stuff within an hour of the show finishing or within Of course! When the show finishes there is art Right So this guy could do that but And they do it under a value for value proposition. What's this guys' value? He just putting it on WordPress blogs, where is he getting his money from to do all this great stuff?" I mean, but I haven't looked that deeply into him... I have a look at the thing we need you now and looked at his wiki page That was just the first thing that struck me like Rio Yeah This is propaganda and I'm

1:29:49 I'm not going to argue that it's not a... Now listen, listen to Wesley Clark saying well you know obviously this is a failed coup. This is no good because we didn't do this and this and this. Correct but I don't think it was meant to be a full-on coup We now need to see what comes back how the State Department of White House are going to justify this meeting How they're gonna explain what the deal was And how we move forward But I think this, but I'm telling you my feeling is this was the first shoe. The second shoe is still to drop it would be

1:30:26 It would be a dynamite kicker bonus if somehow Gulen got to run Turkey. I don't think that's going to happen, but was he responsible for a lot of this? Yeah! He just puts out one bad signal and all his people do whatever they want the Turkish military who are flying F-16s or flying Cobras who have full on support from US military personnel to maintain these aircraft They don't take a crap without talking to the U.S. Military We've carefully, carefully put that together over decades. And we're the cool people! Come on! This is what we do. Regime changes us. We can't do it in Syria because Russia is not going to allow it but Russia will certainly allow us to do that in Turkey. Okay, Cry, tell me what you think then I'm just talking to the chat room. All right. I think we can move on with that as our base and it's the Russians

1:31:29 Can't do anything without the Russians. Let me just see if I had anything else here in my notes because it took a lot of notes... Oh, so the way I left it with the intelligence network who was blowing up my phone was that it appears that the Incirclic Air Force Base is under a form of siege people cannot leave as far as I know, no flights are landing or taking off. And it appears that Erdogan is trying to use some blackmail or hostage type situation to say you have to deliver Gulen to me! You have to get...I want him extradited which he asked for three days before this failed coup took place and you know they've been- He's asking for it constantly but he fired the filed paperwork and

1:32:23 The Air Force Base, you know they've been flipping off the power. You know which doesn't affect us that much but based on all this here's the one message I have the 82nd airborne has an unscheduled emergency deployment readiness exercise coming this week but they have another term...I'm just looking for the military terms They have another team on standby. I mean, we're kind of sitting around waiting for something to happen to do something if necessary We have... We're on high alert preparedness but TSK the Turkish military is flying over the base you know at sonic boom speed this is of course not going- Would that indicate that Turkish intelligence has picked up on this thesis of yours? I would say so yes

1:33:23 Yeah, I would say so. Just a side interesting note that almost to the day the plot to kill Hitler took place which resulted in my favorite Operation Valkyrie which of course is our pre-stream tune It's just one of those things elites like to do, you know put it into...you know it was very similar. They tried to blow up Hitler and did-it didn't work and then Hitler implemented the Valkyrie operation and nothing good came of it. Well nothing good came with any of that yeah all right okay I'll let you slide on this much better than...yeah I'm letting you slide. You can have the thesis in other words I'm not gonna argue against it okay all right

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Value-for-Value Donations

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors, including new Knight Sir Scott Lonergan from North Pole, Alaska. Other significant contributions came from Anthony Farmer in Las Vegas and Sir Cravato in Croatia. The "value-for-value" model is emphasized as the primary funding mechanism for the show, allowing for independent media deconstruction.

scott lonergan· anthony farmer· croatia· suriname· value-for-value

1:34:16 Anything else on these two? I think that's a guland out. With that, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to John C where the c stands for Kudeta Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam McCreary, ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning to our artists in particular I love that. I-I love your little accompaniment, I'd like to say it yes in the morning to Let's see it was Who was our artist for this? Mark G who brought us the artwork for CanMed That was episode 842 Was fun little name badge hello my name is douchebag It was just a fun one little piece of art look nice Yeah we could it was nothing else really stuck

1:35:11 But it's a, it was one of those things where you go what are we going to do? Well this is pretty let's use this. Well we appreciate all the work that our artists do and you can see all of the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.com And thank you so much Mark G for putting that together also in the warning to you chat room NoAgendaStream.com good to see everybody there with their own opinions which usually is false flag We want to thank a few people. Let's start with our executive producers, we got three of them today including a big instant night Scott Lonergan in North Pole Alaska

1:35:51 $100,000. I noticed this last couple of weeks have been disgraceful on the value for value and decided to take this time to lessen my boner status and send in an instant night donation. I say a lesson because I've been listening since about show 120. Wow! And this is my first donation. Wow! Fantastic. Now I'm a knight, uh, figure an 1111 subscription will put me on my path to baronship Did you say $100,000? No i said 1000 did I say 100 yeah I think so I don't think so well that's 1 000 I wish it was 100 that would be great It took you a long time to hear that and find that peculiar

1:36:37 Anyways, he says I want to thank you both for all you do and pledge to do better on my part for the value for value model. I would like to be known as Sir Scott first night of the North Pole nice as I live in North Pole Alaska about two blocks from Santa's house. Keep up the good work and congrats on the award is long overdue this guy needs to be a ham radio operator If he's up there, yeah absolutely. Yeah that'd be great I'm going to and now he has a request for the full Gitmo Nation anthem at the end of the show. Yeah we'll do that i'm gonna give him a de-douching and a well deserved karma you've really appreciated it. You've been de-douched! Looking forward to your ceremony later in todays program. You've got karma

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1:38:57 And he has a note, dear... and it's handwritten in longhand so I'm gonna go through this. Go for it! Dear Guardians of Reality, I must apologize- and it has that little bit of French style which makes it difficult to read. I must apologize for it as its been awhile since my last donation After a gig in Suriname last winter, I ended up in Western Quebec Only to find myself at the corner of Texas and Arkansas, at the movement. At the moment! You can say, now he's in Texarkana. You can say I've been living in the exile for the last eight months please de-douche me. This guy sounds like an economic hit man by the way. Yeah going from where was he first before you went to? He was in Croatia then he went to Suriname then he went to Quebec and now he's in Texarkana which I don't know what's going on there. We need to follow him. He says after numerous failed attempts to end

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CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Artisanal Toast Trend and Depression Food

A new food trend in San Francisco involves selling artisanal toast for four dollars a slice, which the hosts identify as a potential "slave depression food." They compare it to the evolution of mac and cheese from a gourmet item to a cheap staple. The segment features a clip from a bakery owner describing the popularity of simple comfort foods in high-end cafes.

san francisco· artisanal toast· mac and cheese· depression food· mission pie

1:41:18 In 1-337 speak. Leet speak, leet speak. Yeah, leet. Yeah, leet speak. Ass is 455 I can't quite afford that so here's half of 555 or a half ass. I like it! Let's keep up the great analysis. That's funny. Well let's see if anybody bites on that and likes it Please give me all the slaves out there some mac and cheese. Another Mac and Cheese? This is random numbers again. No reason out of the blue for people to be requesting Mac and Cheese karma. You've got karma before you move on Since we're always looking for signs of the depression and of course the mac and cheese is your original based on the grilled cheese Depression food. We have a Russian food. Yes, we've been tracking Mac and cheese as depression food it started off as a

1:42:17 as kind of a gourmet thing. And then it just, you know, be like oh we can have gourmet mac and cheese and now it's just Mac & Cheese Kraft is coming up with Mac & Cheese days and they're selling their cheap cheddar and Macaroni melted together crap for like 50 cents. I know some of these, oh they had five tweeted photos of the mac and cheese dinners you can buy at a grocery outlet 39 cents. Well i have i have a clip here of possibly the next version of depression food which as always starts off with something cool and hip and i want to play a clip

1:42:57 It's one of the simplest foods around. Everyone has had it, anyone with a little bread butter and jam can make it In San Francisco artisanal shops have turned into the trend of the moment I never thought i'd look to a crusty piece of warm bread to illustrate greater truths, but it seems that's just what diners in the city are doing. From what I know about it was first presented at a cafe an artisan cafe on Divisadero the mill or at least that's where it got its reputation. I brought a few loaves of bread that I baked at Mission Pie and my toaster from home And started making toast for people and people really loved it It's a comfort food. It tastes good quick to prepare and simple. We wanted to create really good toast, we've been promising it but it took us a while to kind of reformulate it. We didn't want to do an ordinary toast. There was line that snaked out the door... And the toasters were filled with toasting slices of bread. And I was like holy shit what have I gotten myself into? There you go John! The new slave depression food is TOAST

1:43:58 Holy crap! You gotta give yourself a borderline clip of the day. Toast! Toast! I missed the boat on this, this is absolutely idiot- What about bread and water? Let's have a restaurant that serves bread and water... While you're chained to your seat. The gruel restaurant. With a ball. You slaves can eat toast warmed over gluten toast and the guy's falling all over himself. Well, he's selling the toast currently for four bucks a slice so no wonder he's falling. Holy crap! But this is how mac and cheese started it was like eight bucks you know now restaurants have it for 15 20 bucks we're all there but

1:44:48 The bottom line is, it's like fashion. You have your haute couture, you're ready to wear then you have your lines etc and all the way down at the bottom you've got Old Navy And it's based on the same stylings as what's on the runway, but it's slave stuff. It's slave threads and this is toast toast John Toast Yeah, toast that's pretty pathetic all right All right serendipity in Cuombrá Coimbra Coimbra That there's probably a better pronunciation I'm sure he's in Portugal 201 60

1:45:31 This is 2016.6 donation to hear John saying Forza Portugal on the air. Okay, you have to say it like you really mean it though. Oh yeah, we got it? FORZA PORTUGAL! Drop the mic, grab the popcorn. Even though he doesn't care about soccer at all we are the European champions followed by little girl Yey for the audience to have your vacations in Portugal We need the money They do need the money and it's a best place to go Go to Portugal and have a great time And drugs are legal Yay! Prostitution is illegal

1:46:17 Thank you for the effort you guys have put into the last few shows, they've been sensational. A douchebag call out to Philippe A and karma for everyone! And finally in Wooddale Illinois $200 from Sir Jojo The Network Chimp Guys, Sir Jojo the Network Chimp here. I'm working my way towards something...something wonderful." That's all he has to say is very cryptic. Nice! I like it. Cryptic, cryptic, cryptic and that concludes our group of well-wishers and executive and associate executive producers for show 843

1:47:02 Or 4-4. Yes, and thank you these credits are real You can use them anywhere credits are accepted in an IMDB works your Your LinkedIn page seems to get you a lot of attention Of course I'll be thanking everyone else later on in our full on segment above $50 or more And another show coming up on Thursday Dvorak dot org slash N A So whatever you're doing you probably should be out there propagating our formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth Order!

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Ted Kaczynski and the Impact of the Internet

Adam Curry reflects on the writings of Theodore Kaczynski, specifically "Industrial Society and Its Future," in the context of modern social unrest. He argues that the internet and social media are overwhelming human capacity to process information, leading to increased social friction and the live-streaming of violence.

ted kaczynski· unabomber· industrial society· internet· social media

1:47:39 I was thinking about all of this that's going on, that's happening and just wanted to share a thought. As you know i'm a big fan of Industrial Society and its Future which is the manuscript by Mr Theodore Kaczynski Now just in reflection of these recent events the past week... actually do two weeks Dallas I now believe that this is exactly what Ted was trying to warn us about in his manuscript. If you think about it, the internet is pretty much at the nexus of all the world's shit right now

1:48:17 because people are able to understand that governments are covering up poverty and joblessness with misleading data. We have jobs themselves being replaced by better tools with technology, entire industries are being hijacked so workers can continue... Robots! Yeah well no, hijacked by new owners so these people who work in industries can continue to eat like the music business and news business these are all hijacked industries because the distribution model is broken terrorist acts always include a huge social media element. And of course this started back in the Iraq war when, you know someone said hey I'm gonna go blow something up run back home and then look on CNN via satellite and see how it did so now you can actually watch your stream yourself live it's even better all this has been enhanced with live streaming online video So I conclude that

1:49:14 the network itself is causing our problems because we, most humans are not equipped to deal with this information. Not the speed of it, not the quantity or the signal-to-noise ratio... Now of course a lot of people are able to cope I think that No Agenda producers are in that group. Yeah i think so So just be aware that this is happening and the internet is not our friend. And I think a lot of people will wind up very hurt because of it, just because they're not prepared to deal with what's happening." Well that brings us to Pokemon! So we went to the post office to pick up the mail from the well-wishers

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Pokemon Go Craze and Addictive Personalities

The global phenomenon of Pokemon Go is discussed as a sign of a mental health crisis and "zombified" public behavior. The hosts review five signs of an addictive personality from Psychology Today, including impulse control issues and social alienation. They note that the game's developer, Niantic, previously created the similar but less popular game Ingress.

pokemon go· niantic· central park· addictive personality· augmented reality

1:50:05 And people who send in checks to Bucks 339, El Cerrito California 94530. By the way I forgot to round up my little spiel there with... We're all gonna die! That's what i missed out on. Okay and you know I had a long conversation with Mimi because she knows she's resisting getting the Pokemon thing because she has an addictive personality oh and so everybody seems to have an addictive personality if you look at it So I go to get some gas at this little bitty gas station this woman parks into next pump over And so she's pumping her gas, she gets a receipt and she's about to get in the car. She's looking at her phone and she runs off! Okay? She just runs out of the gas station down the street

1:50:47 And she stops over by a... I already get it. Yeah, you know what happened? I was watching her and so she runs, she just leaves your car with the door open runs down the street as fast as she can goes up to street two of to a running path which is underneath the BART station in El Cerrito and she stops since she's got her phone in her hand and she's doing something with the phone and then she casually walks back to her car So that, she ran after a Pokemon of some sort. Now there is the thing on the internet right now showing literally thousands of people because there was some special... Time in Central Park? Yes! Because there was some special monster of Velocipede or something very special monster that showed up at Central Park and all these people rushed over to take him you know grab it It's like watching an episode of The Walking Dead

1:51:43 It's unbelievable! So Mimi says that she is probably going to end up succumbing because Jay and JC, Buzzkill Jr., have both succumbed. I'm so sorry to hear this John. Sorry about your family. They were really nice And I said... To her I said... Finally got a compliment. I said, I have no zero desire to download or play this game None And I don't think Adam does either. She says you're not an addictive personality. Well, that's not entirely true. Oh you're playing it? No! I have...I have.. I don't have an addictive personality because i can stop whatever the addiction is. I had for a while with Second Life that was going on for little bit. Now as you mentioned your in Second Life and I lost respect for you for the day. It was research.

1:52:36 So she sent me this article called, Five Signs You Have an Addictive Personality. I'd like to read from it and this is for everyone out there... Can i do the test? There's no test! Oh okay It's just a list And I just want to mention this because this is, cause Solmac...cause i said to her it sounds like half the world must have an addictive personality and this ties in nicely with your commentary about the internet screwing us up. Because everybody's playing this game! Well not everybody No I'm not playin' it. I'm not playin'. And you're not playing it? Absolutely Not

1:53:15 Okay, here it is. This is according to Stephen Moss an article published in Psychology Today a question's hard to answer Apparently 10-15% of the population have an addictive personality But if you read these features I think its worse now with the internet One inability to control impulse behavior Absolutely your phone goes ding and vibrates You can't control it Right. And there's a lot of people out there with impulse control problems, which is encouraged by the internet that's why these groups form like perverts And you can't not go to the thing. You can't go look at the photos, you can't not look at a photo, you cannot do something because of the impulse control and this is very common today. Number two weak commitment. This one I found interesting. Weak and this probably applies to No Agenda people cause they don't have this problem. Weak commitment to personal goals and values

1:54:14 Those of you, as it goes on. It says those of you with whose identity or identify with impulse behavior probably know that the logical follow-up is a trait that is weak overall commitment to personal goals and values but this might apply to me a little bit because I've yet to clean up my office. Well that is my personal goal! And that is due to your addiction for archiving things? Well there's that...that may account for it Number three. This one I think is the internet constant stress and anxiety. Now what's interesting here is if you look at this two forms of studies, and of course, fuck science but one

1:54:56 study says that the internet and the way we use it, it has increased people's anxiety level without them really knowing it to a much higher level. And there because you can't stop the stream of shit that's coming in and you know, we're seeing what you saw on television was nothing everyone I'm sure is seen the video of of Nice where you see the real bodies uncovered mangled That increases anxiety level on the other hand there's studies out there that say people have become desensitized. Now it could be either one, it could be a combination but multiple things could be happening. Yes I agree and television does it too and all this fear in fact there's a new they're talking about

1:55:45 the new studies that have shown, actually I'll play this clip later but it shows that they're bringing him back to George Bush style of getting people to vote for the Republicans. You know scare them. Oh of course! Number four recurring themes of social alienation Another major sign that you're fighting an addictive personality comes in the form of social alienation and loneliness. Now this theme I've heard, oh the kids are at least they're getting out well that means they weren't getting out before now they're getting out right? That means there were alienated and they were lonely yes You hear about it's a great dating app

1:56:24 It's all, you know part of this. Okay? I like that and finally the number five last one This is really this is the indictment as far as I'm concerned mood swings And negative self-worth which I would categorize with a term as ethno masochism okay certainly for white people Yeah, yeah. White self-loathing. Yeah. Self loathing. Ethnomassacism. Caused by everyone telling you that you're a white privilege. You're no good! Yeah, you're no good whity So the whole thing all adds up to a huge boom for this crummy game What I found interesting about it is as i look into Niantic a little bit more the company that produced it they also did the game Ingress do you remember this?

1:57:20 No. I probably do, but I'm saying no because it doesn't come to mind quickly Now i have not played either but from what I've read It appears it's the same engine, only Ingress was... you played kind of- The way I understand it. You played with teams, you had- y'know, there was augmented reality and it was a couple years ago and people were crazy about it but it never really caught on fire the way Pokemon has because it was too complicated cause really then of course have seen videos I have not loaded this thing will not load and don't want to play it Pokemon, it's pretty simple. You just you are in a zombified state. You just walk around like oh let me see what we can find. It's like an Easter egg hunt. There is one! Yeah its really an easter egg hunt that's what it is. Its not very complicated No its not but Although there all these advanced strategies Well I think they can bring back...no ingress was not very popular Not when you compare to just responding

1:58:21 not when you compare it to Pokemon. Ingress was very popular amongst Silicon Valley tech nerds, etc., not with general population who just are the people you see walking like zombies but it's possible they could bring that back and who knows where we go from there? This augmented reality is a hit and sell stock in anyone in virtual reality It's not going to be the big hit We've seen this happen so many times. There's no question that this is a huge hit, it's bringing the servers down women are running away from their car I could have stolen her car! It was unbelievable when i witnessed this and she was like middle-aged

1:59:04 Yeah, it's a health crisis. It is a mental health crisis we are witnessing before our eyes. Yeah and nobody sees it as such. They just laugh it off! You watch the news guys... Oh ho ho you playing yet? Ho ho ho! This is like happy news. That's great. It reminds me of one of the Star Trek Next Generation episodes where they all got addicted to some game. If somebody gave me the name that episode I'd appreciate it Anyway, all right. That was my Pokemon. Yes your experience with Pokemon very good Oh, but just we're not doing tech news But I have a question now this is not for you by the question in general. I've noticed there's a couple times Well two things one I keep noticing this flash bug that it keeps freezing up and it looks like it's in the encoding I don't know what's going on. I understand why? But it's odd and it happens with YouTube videos all the time so

1:59:55 That's still happening. Here is the thing that I noticed, it started happening two days ago and i've seen this happen with some regularity where particularly on the iPhone auto-correct is the number one way that you know... This is kind of genius of what the iPhone did because remember the first conversations were, I don't want a virtual keyboard! That's horrible! I can feel the keys! I want my Blackberry! That was the big controversy And of course, and but what Apple was able to do. And I think Steve Jobs even categorized it as is like magic when you're typing, it does this. It's going online. It's doing autocorrect

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iPhone Autocorrect Algorithms and User Frustration

A discussion on the frustrations of iPhone autocorrect suggests that Apple may be frequently updating its algorithms, leading to periods of nonsensical word replacements. The hosts compare the experience of virtual keyboards to the tactile feedback of older Blackberry devices and solicit listener feedback on recent typing errors.

apple· iphone· autocorrect· ios· virtual keyboard

1:59:04 Yeah, it's a health crisis. It is a mental health crisis we are witnessing before our eyes. Yeah and nobody sees it as such. They just laugh it off! You watch the news guys... Oh ho ho you playing yet? Ho ho ho! This is like happy news. That's great. It reminds me of one of the Star Trek Next Generation episodes where they all got addicted to some game. If somebody gave me the name that episode I'd appreciate it Anyway, all right. That was my Pokemon. Yes your experience with Pokemon very good Oh, but just we're not doing tech news But I have a question now this is not for you by the question in general. I've noticed there's a couple times Well two things one I keep noticing this flash bug that it keeps freezing up and it looks like it's in the encoding I don't know what's going on. I understand why? But it's odd and it happens with YouTube videos all the time so

1:59:55 That's still happening. Here is the thing that I noticed, it started happening two days ago and i've seen this happen with some regularity where particularly on the iPhone auto-correct is the number one way that you know... This is kind of genius of what the iPhone did because remember the first conversations were, I don't want a virtual keyboard! That's horrible! I can feel the keys! I want my Blackberry! That was the big controversy And of course, and but what Apple was able to do. And I think Steve Jobs even categorized it as is like magic when you're typing, it does this. It's going online. It's doing autocorrect

2:00:35 in a number of ways, and I think what they're doing from time to time whether it's for individuals but...I don't think so but more generally. They change the algorithm or something and you wind up with a day or two of all these crazy replacement words that show up that-that you normally have no problem with And I think they're refreshing something or they changed the algorithm and it screwed me up over the past 48 hours big time with just dumb mistakes. With words that i've never used before being substituted for things that would be pretty obvious what I mean in a sentence structure. Huh... I'm interested if anyone else has felt that? Now you don't use iOS so you certainly know how to do that No, I use Android and I don't even use the keypad. I tend to talk into it Yeah

2:01:24 I do that too. But anyway, if i have to use the keyboard and do a lot of messaging on the computer using Google Voice, I don't even go into the phone at all. Right? Okay! I just thought that was something I wanted to mention to you. Yeah it's pet peeve sounds like. It happened so many times I want to bring up borderline pet peeve of the day. Borderline Pet Peeve Of The Day! All right. So the last big news item that fit into this whole thing was the idiotic choice of pants? Yes, I have some thoughts on that for good. I have one clip just so you know this if you don't know this particular thing which is that the let's see if I haven't here looking forward

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Donald Trump Selects Mike Pence for Vice President

Donald Trump officially announced Indiana Governor Mike Pence as his running mate following a series of leaks and a delayed announcement due to the Nice attack. The hosts discuss Pence's ties to the Koch brothers and his reputation for staying strictly on message. They speculate that Pence was chosen to appease the Republican establishment and the donor class.

donald trump· mike pence· koch brothers· indiana· republican party

2:02:14 Is there a thing on Pence? Yeah, I have a Pence fiasco. This is the this is the minor clip taken from I think Fox it's the Pence fiasco. This is Megan with some guy who was one of their really good political analysts And I thought this, I didn't know this because I wasn't paying that much attention. I didn't care about Pence but this is interesting. What was up with the weird...I'm announcing him on Friday morning wait i'm not announcing him on Friday morning because we had a terror attack in Nice oh but wait! I'm gonna make other announcements and then I'm going to announce it via Twitter and like there he is and here's our logo

2:02:51 Yeah, well the logo was not exactly a smash hit but the Trump campaign vehemently denied any wish on the part of the presidential nominee to ditch Pence at the last minute. But one could understand why he would have wanted too given that fact that leaks came out of Indianapolis and blew the story that Trump was getting ready for the big reveal and there was a feeling that maybe Pence was trying to jam Trump and prevent him from switching at the end. But, reports from other outlets were that Trump was looking even late into the night to try to find a way to ditch Pence. And then today, Pence is the guy but he doesn't get the ceremony. Then tomorrow they take it to Chris Christie's home state I guess rub his nose in it but take it to his home state to say Pence is the guy announce it in New Jersey." Oh wow!

2:03:36 It's like an arranged marriage that it's getting off to a rocky start. Before you deconstruct that, this started well right after you announced and after I guess most mainstream in America lost interest in Nice and Turkey And I was listening to my favorite channel, Progressive 127 on Sirius satellite to Michelangelo Signorelli. It appears that the reporter from Slate started this and he came on...I don't have a clip but he came on the show and said well you know here's- I have an off the wall theory and that is Trump really used, the asshole Trump used the terrorist attack to try and get rid of Pence

2:04:19 to do something different. And Michelangelo Signorelli in the next segment, he was like well we all know what Trump did you know he wanted to get out of the deal and he's a horrible man who used the terrorist attack to try and get out of the deal this is a actual conspiracy theory from the left that is I think demonstrable uh...to be as such now have thoughts about Pence? I'd love to hear yours Well, I think he's just a classic douchebag. who, you know he seems what I just good and bad that his positions on things are the worst. And he's got all these douchebag qualities He seems like a really pleasant person and people have reported that is really good just a good guy to hang around with. He has a... He's good somebody was criticizing for this but i think and it was on Democracy Now! This analyst from Indiana says

2:05:20 Once Pence became governor, he says it was much better as a congressman and much better working in Washington because when he became governor He couldn't really...He'd decide on two talking points And no matter how much you hounded him. He would never answer the question! He would just stick with the talking points and I saw him do this a couple of times before he was chosen, they would hound him. It was CBS or Tom Yamas on ABC hounding him about well you said this and you said Trump was a douchebag and the guy says well no I think he's a great guy and he's good family man. I love the guy. He's a great guys, good family man. I love it. You never could be budged.

2:06:01 If he has anything good going on from Trump's perspective, he is good at sticking to a point and shutting up. To allow Trump to do his own thing I have a more... I don't think he's a great choice at all and i think it's the kind of guy that you might want to see the Republicans shoot Trump so they can get this guy in as president. Well, you nailed- You know? Stop! Stop! You nailed it That is exactly the way I see it. I think this is a horrible choice The reason why I believe why he is the choice is mainly... KOOOK BROTHER!!! You recall all the Koch brothers talk. This is the guy who has received a lot of money from the Koch brothers this is the Koch brother's butt boy right here, this is him and it is my belief that this is certainly a possible plan

2:06:51 that you're looking at the next president of the United States. I have a very bad feeling about this, very bad feeling that all you have to do is take Trump out and here's your new president. I think Trump just appointed the next president. Well, that's a pretty grim view It's very grim and i don't like saying it but Well, that's one of the reasons we have our listeners support us so we can actually say stuff like this as theory and discuss it openly where no network could possibly discuss this. I want to remind people of that. Yes Now here is what I saw after the whole thing went down and Pence was kind of shoehorned into this deal. I think he'd be a good vice president from the perspective that he won't do anything

2:07:35 I mean, he won't do anything. He won't mess things up. He knows how to work with Congress and is rigid in his talking points. He's not going to go off the reservation unlike Biden. So I think that's one positive thing but when I saw the two of them when they first got together and they're going into Trump Tower, I saw Trump walking ahead of him like somebody with a very old wife. Men always walk ahead of their wives in a funny kind of way that you see the other old married couple and Or the watch just doesn't want to walk. You're walking too fast only if they're holding plastic bags and wearing comfortable shoes Anyway, you have this situation And Trump was and I've seen Trump with other people that he's buddies with and he's always hanging Next to him and he's always budding pop telling around with him kind of so they were together No no This was like the two-hole the old married couple with their husband way in front and and Pence trying to keep up

2:08:31 I mean all that was missing was his yelling, hey you're walking too fast! Or anything like that. So i'm thinking this is not... This is something's amiss with this. This is not right. I stand by my theory and I don't like it. Okay So, I was not a fan of this character. No me neither for that very reason. He's just you know... I don't think it would make any difference in the election because i've been noticing some... no, he won't make but it wouldn't make a difference in the future Just a follow up on the whole Ginsburg thing. Well it's not very often you hear a Supreme Court justice apologize, but that appears to be what Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is doing She released a statement this morning saying she regrets comments she made about Donald Trump in which she called him a faker Well Trump turned around and called those comments dumb and said Ginsburg should resign

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg Apology and Tech Leaders Letter

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg issued an apology for her public criticisms of Donald Trump, acknowledging that judges should remain neutral. Simultaneously, a group of 150 technology leaders, including Twitter's Ev Williams, signed an open letter opposing Trump's candidacy, claiming his policies would be a disaster for innovation.

ruth bader ginsburg· donald trump· silicon valley· ev williams· innovation

2:09:24 This morning Ginsburg said judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. I haven't heard Trump say it and maybe i just missed it there was a lot going on but doesn't this episode confirm that a judge can have a bias against him and therefore should not be It should recuse themselves. And of course, now I'm talking about the Mexican judge isn't this proof? Isn't this proof that one of the highest judges in the land comes out with a huge bias? Yeah yeah but doesn't that prove what he was saying? That's probably why she's supposed to shut up because you...yeah! I mean i think they have every right in the world to say whatever they want because there's no reason that they can't but they don't for that reason

2:10:11 And I think that's, yeah you've proven a point. You're proving Trump's point he hasn't brought... He hasn't brought that up as far! I don't know if he's discovered it yet or thought about it. If anyone from the Trump campaign and I'm sure somebody in the campaign listens to this show they should pass the word along and see what happens Did you see the open letter from technology sector leaders? Did you see this? I remember seeing something about it. Oh my, so it's signed by 150 different people We are inventors, entrepreneurs, engineers, investors... Any names you can throw in there? Well that's... I'm gonna get to that. Okay good! We are inventors, entrepreneurs, engineers, investors researchers and business leaders working in the technology sector we are proud that American innovation is the envy of the world a source of widely shared prosperity and a hallmark of our global leadership. We believe in an inclusive country that fosters opportunity creativity and a level playing field Donald Trump does not

2:11:10 He campaigns on anger, bigotry, fear of new ideas and new people and a fundamental belief that America is weak and in decline. We have listened to Donald Trump over the past year and we have concluded Trump would be a disaster for innovation His vision stands against the open exchange of ideas free movement of people and productive engagement with the outside world that is critical to our economy And then provide the foundation for innovation and growth And they go on and on. We, in the end... Here we go. Finally, we believe the government plays an important role in technology economy by investing in infrastructure education scientific research Donald Trump articulates few policies beyond erratic and contradictory pronouncements His reckless disregard for our legal and political institutions threatens to upend what attracts companies to start and scale in America

2:11:57 He risks distorting markets, reducing exports and slowing job creation. We stand against Donald Trump's divisive candidacy and want a candidate who embraces the ideals that built America's technology industry—freedom of expression, openness to newcomers, equality of opportunity, public investments in research and infrastructure, respect for the rule of law. We embrace an optimistic vision for a more inclusive country where American innovation continues to fuel opportunity, prosperity and leadership." And then they have 150 names, of which none work for Google. Of which... I mean there's former Google people who have little startups of which none include the top VC firms There is only one Kleiner Perkins person in here Who is low level There's no Sequoia Capital on here This is not the- it has a lot of names Sure you could put Ev Williams in there But he's not the technology leader

2:12:54 These guys are douchebags and they're seeing the opportunity that is taking place before them where technology, as we discussed earlier is taking over the world. Silicon Valley's able to put thousands of people into Central Park They do not want anyone rocking their boat No wonder they don't want Trump But notice that the big names are not there The big names aren't stupid Of course they're not stupid! Course not William's is on the list. Yeah, yeah, this is a lot of douchebags I forgot to play this on Thursday This is kind of funny where Brianna Keillor is reporting On Hillary Clinton and she goes off the reservation And well, I'll do these sound effects in the control room largely

2:13:50 largely Hillary Clinton's comments here today, John were based around the recent violence that we have seen. The police involved shootings of black men in Minnesota and Louisiana and then the killing of white police officers by a black gunman Dallas. That was really what she based her comments on around today for Hillary Clinton has some vulnerabilities herself. Even as she calls for criminal justice reform because of her support in the 1990s or anti crime legislation that ultimately helped contribute to this era of mass incarceration that she now speaks out again. We just lost Brianna Keillor who was in Springfield, Illinois where Hillary Clinton just spoke. Yes 10 points for you my friend

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Associate Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct a large knighting ceremony and acknowledge numerous donations from around the world, including Zurich, Hawaii, and Saskatoon. Specific "marriage karma" is sent to listeners in Canada, and several birthdays are celebrated. The segment reinforces the community aspect of the No Agenda "round table."

saskatoon· zurich· hawaii· knighthood· marriage karma

2:12:54 These guys are douchebags and they're seeing the opportunity that is taking place before them where technology, as we discussed earlier is taking over the world. Silicon Valley's able to put thousands of people into Central Park They do not want anyone rocking their boat No wonder they don't want Trump But notice that the big names are not there The big names aren't stupid Of course they're not stupid! Course not William's is on the list. Yeah, yeah, this is a lot of douchebags I forgot to play this on Thursday This is kind of funny where Brianna Keillor is reporting On Hillary Clinton and she goes off the reservation And well, I'll do these sound effects in the control room largely

2:13:50 largely Hillary Clinton's comments here today, John were based around the recent violence that we have seen. The police involved shootings of black men in Minnesota and Louisiana and then the killing of white police officers by a black gunman Dallas. That was really what she based her comments on around today for Hillary Clinton has some vulnerabilities herself. Even as she calls for criminal justice reform because of her support in the 1990s or anti crime legislation that ultimately helped contribute to this era of mass incarceration that she now speaks out again. We just lost Brianna Keillor who was in Springfield, Illinois where Hillary Clinton just spoke. Yes 10 points for you my friend

2:14:38 Exactly what happened. I love that! Hey, why don't we take a break and then we come back? There's more Black Lives Matter stuff we need to talk about. Is that right? Correct. 843 is the actual number. It says 843, I thought. 843 is what I'm on. Oh okay it says 843 on here too so must be at 43. Well the next show then will be 844 yeah! So there'll be two 4's and an eight which four plus four is eight. That's more magic numbers. Eight plus eight is sixteen six plus six is one. It's seven lucky seven!

2:15:26 All right, that'd be great. Sean Fincham in Modesto California comes in with 1-2-3-4-5 he's gonna become a knight so it might as well read his note for him given the amount of douchebaggery occurring in the world lately I figured there is no better time right now to complete my knighthood and show my support for The Best Podcasts and universe you guys are truly the saviors of sanity That's a good one. Saviors of Sanity! Huh? I like it It has a ring to it. I'd have more of a ring too if i do like this. SAVIORS OF SANITY! That's the ringtone for you. Yeah, that's good one. I like it. Yes, I like it too. I would probably be walking face first into street signs looking for Pokemon if it wasn't for you guys and I've seen it happen yeah I liked the title of Sir Finch Nasty Night Of The Bachelor Butt

2:16:19 And B-U-T-T-E. Butte, Bachelor Butte. Oh I was going to say, okay yeah it makes more sense. Bachelor Butte and some good old fashioned hookers and blow us a fight in the round table you have the time? I'd love to hear a Marachi Obama we can put that at the end if you want by Boomshakalaka and thank you for all you do Night Hat Accounting, Night Hood Accounting is below that was very good alright onward are you Woke Yo Kim, Joaquim, Yo Kim, Yakim, Yokum, Yokam! No, it's Joachim. It's from Switzerland. Oh okay. For an alas!

2:16:55 Fornales. Wow, this guy's got a million ways to pronounce his name! 1-2-3-4-5 from Zurich by the way Sean was one two three four five also nice and we need more Swiss listeners so however you pronounce fornales' name thanks Garrett Ivestor in Murrieta California 111 dot 11 You can read the notes and see if there's anything worth talking about. Oh, I'm sorry. Eppostell in Dusseldorf, Deutschland. EPPOSTELL, S-E-T-L to $100. Sir Don from Uwa Beach, Hawaii

2:17:31 $100. He actually sent a note in, it's short note but it's worth reading. Since the political... he says here's contribution to help the show since the political drama started I listened half-heartedly The level of BS is phenomenal so bad that grains of truth are spoken gets covered over with their crap. He's talking about the mainstream media Thankfully you listen much better than I do Lately things are heating up with the Brexit and Hillary evading prosecution This is interesting thank you both for keeping us well informed and may you both Be well now and in the future. I guess it wasn't as exciting as I hoped. Chad Syker in Owensville, Missouri $90 Max Myers in Henrico Virginia 8008 He got the boobs Yeah! I saw that one and liked it It was a very good little Easter egg you put together for boobs

2:18:24 Yeah, boobs. What was the picture again? It was a picture of Clinton ogling some woman. Ogling! And I saw it like boobs click oh yeah there it is that's good one. That was a good one John Opper...I have some thoughts on some of these images I'm starting to see especially I was really taken aback By that picture of a bill with Lewinsky and signed by Bill. Happy Christmas or whatever it was I've never seen that picture before now you said stuff You said something in the news maybe was just a typo because you know we always try to help each other out with With proofreading, but you never send the captions let me just see where your uh

2:19:07 your newsletter was, you had something very... okay here it is. At the very bottom it was here of Clinton an unusual establishing shot? Did you mean establishing shot? Yeah Okay because I was like this is a word I don't know yeah but I like establishing It's a new word! It's what it is that's exactly what I meant Well I was unsure so I wanted to make sure okay I'm glad you asked Sorry, John. It was an unusual establishing shot Yeah that's what- That's how I read it actually but the team is... And I'm looking at that picture and looking at other pictures I'm starting to see these things and I want people to do the following for me if you're listening

2:19:49 Start to look for, because you're going to see this a lot. Start to look for screwball websites that have screwball pictures of Hillary and send me the websites because I believe this is all part of a fantastic scheme by the Trump social media folks to just in the background, just to humiliate Hillary with some of these photos and things. I've never seen a lot of these before. I know that one of Bill's uglying the breasts of that woman did get around before there's been other examples but stuff is starting to show up in strange places and lots of it

2:20:29 Believe me, I follow the images because i'd like to find them and photoshop them and do stuff. And I'm looking at images that I have never seen cropping up You're an archivist of this. And I am an archivist! I would notice this Yes it's what you do All right, onward. Old cars old Hillary is all stuff you collect. Old cars... John Opper in Ostine Florida boobs 8008 Joe Reynoso in Chippewa Falls Wisconsin he yells go podcasting He also has boobs so he also found that found the joke John said the show is good medicine I'm sure you two are helping listeners to live longer lives by removing the stress of fear from our minds Yes, I think we are

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Military Social Media Restrictions and Hillary Clinton

An anonymous member of the US Armed Forces shared a new "ALARACT" regulation that restricts military personnel from retweeting or sharing partisan political content on social media. The source suggests these rules are intended to silence military dissent regarding Hillary Clinton following the FBI's investigation into her email server.

department of defense· alaract· social media· hillary clinton· opsec

2:26:50 You have a show coming up on Thursday. Yeah, we got a really big show coming up and we appreciate everything that everyone does for us I Really? I maybe got four hours of sleep last night It wasn't much before then I'm actually gonna I believe the rundown, because it's all the names are changed etc. and i've taken out personally identifiable information...I have the full rundown of my chats with the intelligence guys who are part of our intelligence network just people to read through with a timestamp is kind of fun to look at and all this is possible because of people supporting the program also under $50 of course with subscriptions John's always asking you to think about getting a subscription as a good idea frankly and we appreciate

2:27:30 All of the support that you give us not just financially, but of course with jingles with stories with clips It's it's it's really fun to do this. I really love it Thank You for org slash and a little John's Karma for everybody jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Karma all right And here we go, we got Sir John Horner saying happy birthday to Sarah Cozy celebrating on the 22nd. An anonymous millennial happy birthday to her brother's girlfriend We have Shane Rozdilski saying happy bir-birthday to his brothers Sir Chase and Rozdilski who turns 26 on July

2:28:17 22nd and also himself who is turning 28 tomorrow on the 18th of July. Happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Okay, three nights today good to see this happening for once I brought my blade yeah i got it i've got it right here very good Scott Lonergan, Sean Fincham and Shane Rozdilski. Step on up to the podium here at the lecture and please thank you very much gentlemen all three of you have contributed to The Best Podcast in University amount of $1,000 or more that earns you a coveted spot

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2:29:42 When did you start doing the knighting with your left hand? Is your shoulder bad or something? Yeah, just a little. I had a massage in Vegas. Oh, I bet you did! I have a note from a guy in the Army. Okay It's kind of long but I'm going to mention it. He is all anonymous he wouldn't put his name anywhere came in unwritten. I am fellow Knight but for this contribution I chose remain anonymous and also member of the Armed Forces so thought I'd share excerpt from recent Alaract like a regulation but this is A L A R A C T's all army something or other notices just notice that you're supposed to follow. You can look it up, ALARACT see what it means? It was in my unit new rules over social media! New rules?!

2:30:33 New rules. Civilian and military personnel may generally express their personal views on public issues or political candidates via social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter or personal blogs much the same as they would be permitted to write a letter to the editor of a newspaper if while expressing a personal opinion personnel are identified by social media site as DOD employees The posting must clearly and prominently state that the views expressed are those of the individual only and not of DOD As previously noted, active duty members and further restricted civilian employees are prohibited from participating in partisan political activity. Therefore while these employees may follow or friend or like a political party or candidate running for political office they will not post links to share or retweet comments or tweets from Facebook pages of a political party or candidate running for partisan office such as an activity is deemed to constitute participation in political activities."

2:31:30 Wow. He goes on to say, this is interesting he says members of the army now we're or contact his writing members of the arms force should be aware that we cannot show up to political events in uniform identifies ourselves as such but this took it to a new level he says I thought the timing and this was very coincidental with president's endorsement Hillary Obama's endorsement of Hillary among other things, and I believe the true purpose of this is to silence members of the military. Anecdotal for sure but I don't know a single service member who likes Hillary. I'm not saying they are rooting for Trump either but many if not all were very furious in his platoon i guess

2:32:10 with the FBI's results. Many of the soldiers were joking that we shouldn't have to do any more OPSEC courses after the news broke and, of course these rules expire at inauguration which means we aren't supposed to say anything negative about whomever does become president for that is disrespecting the chain excuse me the chain of command if nothing else I thought you'd like to hear what the retreat the retweet is now officially part of military lexicon Wow, the retweet. So... Shut up! Shut up Slade! Shut Up! I got a lot of feedback on the Harvard study and the way that MSNBC crew responded to it say hey we need a qualitative analysis and you and i struggled a little bit about that first this uh the study was

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Harvard Study on Police Shootings and Racial Bias

A Harvard study led by Roland Fryer found no racial bias in officer-involved shootings, though it did find bias in lower-level uses of force. Media figures like Thom Hartmann and MSNBC analysts are criticized for dismissing the quantitative data in favor of "common sense" and viral videos. The hosts discuss the difference between qualitative and quantitative analysis in academic research.

harvard university· roland fryer· police shootings· racial bias· thom hartmann

2:33:06 reiterated on CNN the other day. But it turns out, at least according to a new Harvard study that scenes like these are not the norm The study looked at more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments in Texas Florida and California plus stop-and-frisk policing in New York City When it comes to more extreme force, officer-involved shootings the study found no racial difference at all. In fact officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked if the suspects were white weakening the argument for racial bias in the use of lethal force 19 year old Zachary Hammond who was white was shot to death by police in South Carolina

2:33:50 as he drove away from a drug sting. John Gere, who was also white, was gunned down by police standing in the doorway of his Virginia home. In Houston the study found that in cases where lethal force might be justified officers were about 24% less likely to shoot a black suspect Okay, so that is the report and the pushback that came mainly from MSNBC was well we need to see a qualitative analysis. And a lot of people sent very similar responses about surveys and these are about analysis and reports and studies and all of them have standing in the academic field. So here's one

2:34:32 In the example discussed on the show, Dr. Farrari used quantitative data numbers to show that blacks were less likely to be shot but were more likely to experience other forms of violence If we were to do a qualitative analysis on the same subject, we might tell a descriptive story of a few individuals that experience police violence. As you might notice, quantitative analysis is often what journalists do—they focus on an individual's story while ignoring larger quantitative trends The reason why I decided to write is because John's explanation prevented you from drawing the obvious conclusion that the reporter in your clip is an idiot. Well, I think we both knew that! It is pointless to suggest the use of qualitative data to refute the significance of quantitative data analysis."

2:35:20 Assuming the statistics are done properly, which of course is a huge caveat there's nothing to refute. You could question methodology like sampling method chosen statistic etc but performing a qualitative analysis will tell you absolutely nothing Well if you want to do that then there's only one guy who will do that kind of stuff in media today and he is a friend of the show his name is Thom Hartmann Are you ready? I'm always ready. This was seven minutes, but i just took the best. Joining us... So you write that this report actually provides and quoting you further evidence of anti-black bias and casual day to day brutality by the country's cops

2:36:01 What are you seeing here that the right wing and others are missing? So just to, so what his guest is about to say is the report actually proves a lot more bias racial bias. You have my attention Thumb I mean where the right-wing hate mongers and hate media dancing on the graves of black folks killed by the police Gotta love that Is that what they do they dance on their graves? Yeah, they dance on the graves WOOOOOOHOOHOOHOOHOO! What are you seeing here that the right wing and others are missing I mean, where the right wing hate mongers and hate media are dancing on the graves of black folks killed by the police. I don't think they actually read the article because the article also includes damning and devastating information that should be familiar to any person of color in this country that police officers are significantly more likely to beat upon throw on the ground mace and otherwise assault black folks all

2:36:51 all The winner of tons of awards even said, yes the findings are surprising but in social science the work is iterative meaning other folks have to go and follow it up. And it has to be reconciled with all the other data plus our common sense... Oh! We need just throw in common sense John that's what we need to do. Ignore this survey because we didn't put any common sense into it. And it has to be reconciled with all the other data, plus our common sense. Plus the videos... Videos? Well this is the problem! We discussed this It's the focus of the videos You don't see the white people being killed by the cops you only see the black people So he is actually saying

2:37:40 You need to take the videos into account. You need to take all these other things into account. Plus, the videos that show us that police officers are much more likely to use lethal force against African Americans and other people of color. It occurred to me... in fact we did an op-ed about this that uh... it's been smaller police departments um... is more police for some i not have the budget for good training or high standards are hiring better police officers something like that do you think that that you know this isn't as dumb barney five hicks white hits who out there in small town and through she's could call a small-town yeah more action all towns small towns as a reminder your call but the report

2:38:40 of the Dallas shooter that he wrote the letters RB in his blood on the wall? Yeah, which I never believed. What if it was BR as in Baton Rouge? Sample of garbage-in garbage out Well, I mean the other angle we have to pursue here is that the statistics We have about police violence and murder are reported by the police They're notoriously unreliable The other question here is what a selection bias And again sort of thinking about who would actually submit the data So if you're a police department that knows you have rampant problems with police abuse, are you actually going to respond to somebody requesting your data? This gets back to having public accountability for America's police. Now wait a minute he is gonna talk about selection bias and all these things that he is kind of hinting at He has to do a methodology study himself to disprove this You just can't sit there I mean I can see it possible to do a methodology study To show that this survey is bull crap! You could do it

2:39:37 But just saying, oh blah blah it's this boy no good. Why is it no good? The guy has got no proof whatsoever Because he doesn't fit the entire narrative and its coming from Harvard They have a narrative going This is that left wing narrative you keep hearing when you listen to that horrible serious station Oh no thats much worse they're just lying That's not a bias. No, it's entertainment is what it is. Well, entertainment is what it is! I think it's entertainment It's good stuff Just staying with Black Lives Matter for a moment Did you know that they were active up in Canada? Yes, I did know that as a matter of fact and very well received by Trudeau Yeah, well no so well received by all Canadians certainly because they interrupted the Toronto Pride Day

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Black Lives Matter Protests at Toronto Pride

Black Lives Matter activists in Toronto disrupted the city's Pride Parade, demanding the removal of police floats. The protest sparked a "red pill" moment for the gay community, particularly following the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando. Critics point out the irony of targeting the Toronto Police Department, which is led by a black man.

black lives matter· toronto· pride parade· gay rights· orlando

2:40:30 And here's a Canadian gay. The conflict that went down at the Toronto Pride Parade last week, let's hear your thoughts on that So the gay community are getting a really big red pill right now Last week in Toronto Black Lives Matter shut down the... What does it even mean? What, Red Pill? Yeah Oh they're getting a dose of reality like Red Pill Blue Pill, The Matrix I thought the blue pill was reality Well if that's the one you took no wonder it explains a lot. I prayed last night. Let's hear Did you take the blue pill? What Jill are you talking about took the wrong pill? Yeah, have you seen The Matrix I've seen them H I saw all the matrix season I didn't paid no attention to them. I know there was appeal here Take the pill it was a corniest idea ever they take the pill oh

2:41:16 So okay, you took- somebody took the pill. Is it a red pill? Is it blue pill? I don't know The conflict that went down at the Toronto Pride Parade last week Let's hear your thoughts on that So the gay community are getting a really big red pill right now Last week in Toronto Black Lives Matter shut down the pride parade with a list of demands one of which included removing the police float from the parade and this is quite insulting for a number of reasons Firstly there are lots of gay police officers working in Toronto Secondly, there are also lots of black police officers and in fact the head of the Toronto Police Department is a black man. So I don't understand how they reconcile this? And also after what happened in Orlando where 49 gay people were killed it seems quite insulting to expect us to remove police presence as they did in San Francisco from pride parades making us even weaker targets to terrorism

2:42:12 And so is there a problem with Toronto's black police officers killing white Candanavians? So then it's not just an American crazy ass thing. I mean, it's a very different culture but apparently it's the same? How can this be? This makes no sense! What is Soros up to?! It's a worldwide takeover It's not taking over anything though. No, it's just making certain groups cower Yeah Okay I'll take that...cower Oh no what did we do wrong? Why are they picking on us?! What did we do wrong why are they picking on us We have black people! I know a black man! Ridiculous Exactly

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Zika Virus Transmission and Epidemic Projections

New York City health officials reported the first suspected case of female-to-male sexual transmission of the Zika virus. Meanwhile, researchers at Imperial College London released a computer model suggesting the Zika epidemic in Latin America will likely burn itself out within three years as populations develop immunity.

zika virus· new york city· imperial college london· latin america· epidemic

2:43:10 Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika. Yeah! Where's the money? 1.9 billion dollars. Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika. Yeah! Where is the money? Two reports... Small heads are coming. You're gonna do it you watch. Two reports came out that were interesting in the Zika and ongoing of course it's a little on the back burner but they're still trying to get the $1.9 billion slush fund all their buddies So we have New York City with a suspected female-to-male transmission of Zika virus. This is very interesting, female to male sexual transmission of the Zika virus and they say that this woman who was in her 20s reported she had engaged in a single event of condomless vaginal intercourse with the male partner

2:44:04 And somehow the male partner now also has the Zika virus. This is not very traditional way of... It doesn't sound right, no I mean if there was cunnilingus performed okay i can believe that but she doesn't say that and the report isn't official report Well I would have to assume that's what happened? I would think so but she's embarrassed to say it or I don't know maybe the media just won't say that oh well yeah a lot of things don't fit Researchers at Imperial College London indicate the ongoing Zika epidemic in parts of Latin America will likely burn itself out within three years, according to their computer models. And this was published in Science and it concludes that the Zika epidemic will largely come to an end about two or three years. The next large-scale epidemic is unlikely to emerge for another ten years."

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

CBS Report on Online Hate Speech and Extremism

A CBS News report examines the rise of "communities of hate" online, linking internet extremism to attackers like Dylann Roof and the San Bernardino shooters. The Simon Wiesenthal Center claims to have identified 30,000 extremist networks online. The hosts view the report as part of a broader push to justify internet censorship and the regulation of free speech.

cbs news· hate speech· internet· dylann roof· simon wiesenthal center

2:44:57 That puts a damper on it. I love those computer models, they're so good! But it puts a damper on things doesn't it? It puts a damper on something... All right let's go to the free speech issue okay this is probably the hardest I've ever seen the hate speech notions pushed on network TV hate speech diatribe on CBS. CBS with these massacres including Nice, Dallas and Orlando coming so rapidly now we wondered what's changed well Mark Strassman found one factor in the growth of hate online

2:45:41 The night five police officers were gunned down in Dallas, an extremist group called the African-American Defense League posted this message online. We must kill white police officers across the country One of the groups followers was Micah Johnson, the Dallas Gunman People just have much more access to hate and people also feel more emboldened to project their hate. Orrin Siegel tracks extremist groups online The internet sort of breaks down some of these normal codes of conduct that we have, so in some ways we see quite a bit of spike in hate speech because of the internet The internet can be a community of hate Extremist organizations with webpages looking for followers

2:46:29 Dylan Roof, who murdered nine black churchgoers in Charleston last June said that... I think he's referring to the no agenda forums. I think is what he was talking about? Of course. Dylan Roof, who murdered nine black churchgoers in Charleston last June said that Council of Conservative Citizens and online white supremacist group shaped his his racial views. And Tashfeen Malik, one of two terrorists who killed 14 people in San Bernardino spread her radicalized views with her Facebook friends The most impactful type of activity online by extremists is really on social media

2:47:06 Because social media is a whole different sort of feeling. It's an ability for you to engage with somebody, create a community and feel like you have like-minded people who are interested in you. Siegel said the challenge comes in fighting hate speech without violating people's right to free speech Give me that community of hate again I liked it Community of HATE! That's a ringtone right there So, community of hate. So there's a kicker if you want to play part two? Of course we want to play a kicker! This is dynamite stuff I love it

2:47:42 The Simon Wiesenthal Center tracks online networks that involve extremist groups. Two years ago it had identified 30,000 of them and stopped counting. Scott? Then gave up! Too much hate. We've had enough of this hate we're stopped counting Well that just fits right into my thesis from earlier makes nothing but sense Just hate. Hate hate hate That's right...we're not prepared for it Okay, I have two more things. What do you got? Anything else you want to... I've got a little bit on the setup at the convention of all that work they're making a big fuss Yes yes and they're really just everyone is saying it's gonna be a bloodbath It's gonna be horrible We have groups coming from all over the world Then i'd say this clip would be the one you want which is Convention Security CBS with The Kicker

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Republican National Convention Security and UN Peacekeepers

Security preparations for the Republican National Convention in Cleveland include barricades, chemical detectors, and thousands of police officers. US Ambassador Samantha Power announced support for UN principles allowing peacekeepers to use force to protect civilians, leading to host speculation about the potential use of "blue helmets" on American soil.

rnc· cleveland· samantha power· united nations· secret service

2:48:38 Omar Villafranca in Lakeway for us tonight. Omar, thanks. Correspondent Jeff Pagay says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention. Yeah they'd rather be in France. What? I said they'd rather be in Paris detecting that. It was so interesting to see being in France, it's summertime so everyone is on vacation but most of the news people were on vacation in France and you see Brooke Baldwin completely tanned looking all beautiful hanging out there. And by the way I want ask this question, I forgot to mention this when we did the Istanbul report

2:49:15 How did all these anchors, these people be there instantly? They had Williams that girl that works for Holly Williams the girl that works for CBS and she also does some work for Sky News apparently. She was right there while it was happening. They were vacationing! These are the elites. These are the elites vacationing in the south of France Well she was in Istanbul These are the elites vacationing in Istanbul It could be. Omar Viafranca, it is a hot spot to vacation in and you'd think based upon no agenda logic You know you have a big terrorist attack at the airport in Istanbul best time to go is now Yeah, I'm glad we didn't say that. They took our advice yeah Omar Viafranca and Lakeway for us tonight Omar thanks And then Lakeway of course is right up the road from me this is

2:50:04 father and son who were killed in Nice. Very sad. Correspondent Jeff Pagay says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention It's Jeff the gay everybody! We keep hearing this gay word, is it us? He said here's Jeff the Gay Omar Villafranca and Lakeway for us tonight, Omar thanks Correspondent Jeff Pagays says that France is on the minds of those protecting next week's Republican convention Barricades and jersey walls line the streets. Machines are in place to detect a potential chemical attack, and police surveillance is ramped up. Still stopping a knee-style copycat attack is difficult. Ron Hosko was a former assistant director of the FBI. There's a real risk that someone who is inspired to action whether criminal or terrorist sees this as a success

2:50:58 and they try to replicate it. 50,000 people will attend the convention and thousands of protesters are expected 4,000 local police will be supplemented by thousands of federal officials so what is this? The secure zone has been mapped out by the Secret Service to allow agents to quickly cover miles and seconds in case of a disturbance. It's not easy secret service director Joseph Clancy plans never finished you have to constantly be ready to adapt, be flexible to whatever may occur Scott it's about remaining vigilant officials say there is no specific or credible threat against the convention No credible threat? There's no nothing! No credible threat huh huh And then the other thing is they cover miles in seconds

2:51:45 How do you cover miles? Can you do a mile in one second? I don't know. But... I think it's possible, they're full of crap Well this is going to be quite a show obviously It starts tomorrow Yeah it's gonna be quite the show Actually kind of starts tonight with some pre-crap Everybody knows that there are 6 thousand people being bused in groups from all over the country They're specifically just make trouble Yeah They should make it so only locals can be in the city. There's a this they should do lots of stuff, but something interesting came up in the United Nations just when it comes to strife in countries and uprisings Samantha Power United States announced its support for a set of principles that give a green light for United Nations peacekeeping troops and police

2:52:42 to use force to protect civilians in armed conflicts. The U.S. Ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power told a high-level UN meeting Wednesday focusing on the responsibility to protect civil—protect civilians —we're here for your protection civilian— that United States was proud and humbled to join 28 other countries that have pledged to abide by the 18 pledges Is this... Do I read this that if necessary, we could have United Nations peacekeepers? The blue helmets in America. Be great! This is New World Order stuff man Of course You got something against the New World Order Yeah, I'm a little belligerent I would have to say Arrest him What else do i have here

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Cuba Embargo and Military Schengen Zone Proposal

Oxfam has called for the lifting of the US embargo on Cuba, which remains in place despite restored diplomatic relations. In Europe, US Army General Ben Hodges proposed a "military Schengen zone" to allow NATO troops and equipment to move across European borders as quickly as Russian forces can move within their own territory.

cuba· oxfam· nato· schengen zone· ben hodges

2:53:40 I got a clip that kind of got me. I forgot, you know play this Cuba embargo clip Cuba Cuba embargo The NGO Oxfam has issued a call to lift the U.S. embargo on Cuba. Oxfam executive director Winnie Baima said the group had previously avoided taking up the issue, but will now campaign to have it removed sooner rather than later. In March President Obama became the first sitting president in 88 years to visit Cuba as diplomatic relations were restored and the US embassy there reopened however the more than half century old embargo remains in place

2:54:16 Was I was when I heard this to wait a minute. I thought the embargo was already lifted, but apparently not or it's the Mandela effect. Oh that would be it That's my guess. All right, well a couple of things in Europe migrants first of all there has been a massive migrant camp set up right next to George Clooney's Italian mansion that that's just beautiful this is a funny yeah very funny I like that a lot survey has revealed the Germany's top companies employ a total of 54 migrants. Wow, that's really good what a great ratio. A million or something that is in Germany? That is a great ratio

2:54:57 And this was on...now what was this? This is Yanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister. And he's blowing the whistle and calling himself a whistleblower while doing it. He started as a long lead into this but what he starts off in his interview with saying I wish that when I was in Europe, the EU Council meetings are done in secret. This is where the, you know, the laws are made and then we hand it over to the parliament and parliament can go say well... Rubber stamps them Or issue a yellow card or whatever's necessary Yeah they don't get anywhere And he said something happened which he'll explain in a moment with the German

2:55:41 with the German, who was it then? We'll find out who it is as you mentioned in the clip. Something happened during one of these top secret meetings and he says oh I wish I could just press the button have a live stream! You say it's easy in the sense that you just press a button but in terms of changing the mindset of politicians and institutions that's not so easy is it? Well you know pressing the button would go a long way towards that when I attended my first Eurogroup and I heard to my dismay, the German finance minister in all seriousness saying that elections cannot be allowed to change economic policy. At that moment I thought if only the world could see this and could hear this

2:56:22 if only our citizens both in Germany and in Greece but also in Britain, France everywhere else could actually hear that. That would change the debate. But in a sense that has been heard and that has changed the debate hasn't it? And that's why we're having people saying look you know the European Union might have had some great ideals but its fundamentally undemocratic Well there is no reason why you've heard this because I told you because I operated as something of a whistleblower It is remarkable that for all those years nobody else has done it, really. And it shouldn't be down to a particular person and the particular whistleblowing minister to offer this degree of transparency. And you're right, what the fact that whistleblowing is essential in order to bring this news out in the open. Yeah so he brought it out in the open no one will care but it's nice for us we like it yeah We like hearing those things. It makes nothing but sense I played this one out of order um...I wanted to play this right after

2:57:21 the blue helmets story. This is Ben Hodges, commanding general United States Army Europe I don't think that's the exact title and he's on BBC hard talk and he brings up a term which we may be hearing more of Are you worried right now? The thing i worry about the most is freedom of movement The Russians are able to move huge formations and lots of equipment a long distance very fast. 20,000 troops, you know lot of equipment shows up on the border of NATO country or maybe somebody like Georgia or Ukraine that is concerning the Russians have what we call freedom of movement on interior lines they can move anywhere inside Russia as fast as they want

2:58:11 In order for our political leaders to have options other than a liberation campaign, we need to match that same speed inside NATO. They would say, We see what you're thinking about doing don't do it, we're prepared You don't have that speed today. No, we need what I would call a military Schengen zone that would allow the military to move inside... A British convoy an American convoy or German convoy should be able to go anywhere inside NATO in order to have the same freedom of movement and I'm talking about three days Three days notification We oughta be able do that! We absolutely don't have that right now. Mmmh, I love the sound of it

2:58:54 God military Schengen zone Nice nice Then you know I'm glad we're alive during this period John. It's a good time to do a show it is Let's shit don't you play this cuz I don't know what this clip is but that maybe the one I was looking for try This push report on terror at the election oh Okay.

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Election Polling on Terrorism and Show Outro

Pew Research indicates that 51% of Americans fear they or a family member will be a victim of terrorism, a statistic the hosts attribute to media-driven fear. The show concludes with a final thank you to the producers and a reminder of the next broadcast on Thursday. A remix of political soundbites and the "Gitmo Nation" anthem plays the episode out.

pew research· terrorism· hillary clinton· donald trump· benghazi

2:59:33 the party and the candidate. You hit on a very important point for this election, every week when there is a new attack it makes voters think more and more about their personal security and recently Pew Research that has been tracking this well before 9-11 but came out with its newest findings that 51% of Americans now think they or a member of their family will be a victim of terrorism. And as those numbers stay that high, or hopefully they don't but could get higher it only makes foreign policy and terrorism more of an issue. And on this issue look there couldn't be a bigger difference you have Hillary Clinton who allowed four Americans to die in Benghazi

3:00:22 and who was part of every major foreign policy decision that has helped get us to this point in where we are with the fight on terrorism versus Donald Trump, who says we're going close down our borders to make sure we know who's coming in here. We're gonna get out people who have committed crimes and want to do harm to America, we're going to get them out and we're gonna get tough on terrorists now that's a pretty easy choice for most Americans about who they are gonna vote for bomb them bomb them and bomb them again That was kind of an interesting thing, this 51 percent. I mean which is ludicrous if you think about it. Do you think that one of your relatives or family members or yourself just asking you are going to get killed by a terrorist? Would you...I don't think that but i can imagine that the public at large they're being scared to death probably a lot of them do believe that. But 51% of the American public are you kidding me

3:01:26 Um, I... yeah. You don't think so? You think that's uh...? No, I do believe it but i don't believe that anyone could actually think that way I mean, it doesn't surprise me but to think that way if you look at the statistical analysis of being killed by a terrorist what the likelihood is. It's so remote that i think the public at large is being bamboozled and I also think they're basically stupid because they never consider this stuff They don't consider the numbers You're telling me there's propaganda and lying going on?

3:02:01 I'm shocked. Yeah, alright that's the clip i was looking for actually from earlier. I like it. You know? I think that's about all I have for today. I'm good. I can-I got some stuff I'm gonna move forward We could continue for a while obviously but we're going to have lots more on Thursday because of course... The way things are going there'll be an event today Well the even happened already Right, right. Three cops killed! Today's event happened. That happens on show day then there is going to be the convention which will be hilarious and there is going to be some action some event there probably three or four events this is unbelievable it's a bonanza of events It really is a bonanza of events And its always on show days which is just uncanny Uncanny Not quite sure what to do with it but

3:03:04 There it is. There it is, indeed. Well thank you very much for supporting the work It's great when we have support because we're doing a lot of it and will continue as just like double time on the spin bike now just cranking out trying to keep up These are times when would be nice to have some staff but honestly I'm glad we do it all together A spin bike metaphor We've sunk to a new low Everybody so keep your eyes peeled keep the information flowing and support us light the candles like to get in the tub Remember we'll have another show on Thursday

3:03:43 And I look forward to it as always. Coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper here in downtown Austin, Tejas FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody! I am Adam Kirk and from Northern Silicon Valley where its still foggy It was foggy this morning, now its foggy Its cold, its July Im John C. Dvorak We will return on Thursday for more of your media deconstruction Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA and we'll see you here on No Agenda Adios, mofos. We need to kill them!

3:04:45 We need to kill them. Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again eh? We need to kill them. We need to kill them! Bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again eh? And bomb them again eh? Bomb them, bomb them

3:05:33 and bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them. Bomb them. And then...and kill them! Bomb them. Bomb them. And then...and kill them! Bomb them again. Bomb them again We need to KILL THEM! BOMB! Bomb them again. Bomb them again WE NEED TO KILL THEM! AND BOMB THEM AGAIN

3:06:15 What Homie said was that sometimes, which is what I've been saying for a long time. The problem. The issue. He should have known! But if... What Homie said was that sometimes, which is what I've been saying for- But this the problem. The issue. This is the problem. ...for a long time. What Homie said was that sometimes, which is what I've been saying for a long time. Classified until after someone is sent? That's the issue. No. But she might have said it. It isn't. She's a smart one. Well, which ISN'T?! Capable of bullshitting. She's capable of bullshitting. No! That's the problem. The issue. He shouldn't have- That's my intention. content that stuff should not have been transmitted. Which is it? This symbol she might have gotten, symbol in the issue. This is the problem, in the issue. Symbol she might have been on, issues system. In the issue symbol she must've been on but if she... When I say whoa! I mean WHOA! T-T-Fear Fear Fear Fear Oh this thing here getting much uglier. Happy agenda. T-T-Fear Fear Fear It's real and its growing They can bring down airplanes

3:07:43 Drive our agenda. Fear, fear and fear. It could very well be a very hot summer we don't know what ramifications will come. Mental incapacity We must know that more guns make us less safe Criminal thoughts? Drive our agenda And that can happen in front of a mall tomorrow, church or theater Fear, fear, fear it is real and its growing But what we do know is there will be more people killed by guns Joining a gang is like having a family. It's feeling like you're part of something bigger than yourself, so we're either going to have gangs that murder and rob and do the things that are so destructive to the gang members into the community or we're gonna have positive gangs. We're gonna have positive alternatives for young people

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