Jobs Justice and Climate

00:03 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak Time again for the team unofficially known as the G2 fighting disinformation and lunacy all across Gitmo Nation This is no agenda From the Crackpot Command Center burrowed in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East I'm Adam Curry And from Silicon Valley North and why am i shouting? I'm asking the other guy I'm John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill Excellent we did a good one that was well, you know once in awhile. You can hit it hit the thing That was one of the better ones Yeah Hey John Actually, you know that one of that first time you thought that we blew it I listened to that It was one of the better ones too early on a couple weeks ago. Its beauty is in the eye of the beholder as always Well yeah and depends on what you're looking for

00:58 Boy, it was tough. I'm listening to you go on and on and reminded of the old you know why am i shouting Dana Carvey bit? Yeah the Pukin News guy. I'm Shep Smith everybody how ya doing? Oh wait a minute...I gotta turn my control panel off. It's on. There you go yeah Umm... That was kind of weird waiting for you. First of all, we moved our clocks- We sprung ahead last night or early this morning so now were back to the 8 hour time difference between Gitmo Nation East and Gitmo Nation West which is a shame. Wait a minute I thought it was spring back fall forward? No It's fall back spring forward that would make no sense if it was spring back You spring forward and you fall back

01:41 You spring back. Hey, the guy sprung back! No you- no you spring forward Well why would they come up with this crazy thing because it's very confusing? You can spring back, you can spring forward, you can fall back, you can fall forward But it's... So how did they say oh you spring back and fall forward, yeah fallback and springforward The whole thing never makes any sense to me I always have to look it up And now back to real news It's Spring Forward Fall Back That's what you say yeah, that's what she said oh wow I got to play you with. I only have one or two sound clips since we had We do apologize to your people out there who got sick of our sound clips Yeah People did get kind of sick of that There's the egg you know like just keep it to a couple maybe well. You need to do them Well there is a very funny one

02:33 uh... in this happened that was i think the state senate listened to this interlude between the you can show you must have blogged this now they think about it on loaded up ahead actually planned on playing this but this is between senate budget chairman ken conrad if you know who he is and uh... group of senator chuck grassley and his party has a right him there were dealing with high and i'd like to suggest to the chairman that he might want to support this because you remember you asked me two years ago not take a vote on it and you said that if we did take a vote on it, you might now get your budget resolution adopted. And so I did not ask for a vote on it and you said it was very statesman-like thing... So this is Grassley right? ...to do at that particular time uh... and so I would hope you would return the favor

03:29 Check it out. You know I used to like you Let me just say oh, you are good your wife said the same thing I Love that Your wife said the same thing! What are they doing, shtick? They're doing stand-up in the Senate. I mean that's funny That's the kind of humor we need a lot more of Yeah, that's pretty good Oh hold on a second John for some reason... It sounds like a bunch of drunks these guys For some reason we were off uh Hold on what's going on why is this stream? What the hell is thaaat Logging in

04:19 Oh man. Anyway, keep going while I fuck with that. Did our stream miss that great material? Yeah they're gonna have to listen to the... oh horrors! They're gonna have to listen to the podcast. That's funny yeah so you get the stream back up the stream you know this like and i think it's interesting that there I ran into a guy the other day who uh you know saw me roaming around town and he said that he listens to the show religiously On the stream. Yeah, who is this guy? I know or is this just a streamer backup? Just of just a Miscellaneous fan well let me tell you what I feel is happening So you have no agenda stream calm and we used to only turn it on when we did the show There is something going wrong with it. I don't know anyway people are just gonna have to that's a bummer because what happens is now that the streams up 24 7

05:21 Or it used to be up until the until we actually started It was up 24-7 It you know because I it's not just a playlist of songs. I mean there's a lot of stuff going on There's when you when you Twitter into no agenda stream, then it reads back those tweets We've got real news Headlines coming through that are yeah, it's auto generated by you know by computer But its news coming through Twitter which is what I like about it now because twitter is turning out to be this amazing new source and And I was even programming some stuff in yesterday with the G20 protest, which of course the G20 doesn't kick off until April 1st and 2nd here in London or the city of London. I should say and you know so this idea of hashtag tracking

06:12 So you, and I have a beautiful customized version now. In fact you can emulate that. Have you seen Twitter Fall John? No! I'm very shallow in it. I use Twitter, I have a lot of people who follow me...I am not into all the yet. I might eventually get into all these ancillary little gizmo like programs. What's cool about Twitter Fall is you put in some keywords that you want to track and it just gives you a scrolling list, and you can determine how fast you want the list to scroll. And it's basically a filter of the entire Twitter sphere

06:55 and it has so much mass at this point that I was able to follow four different groups yesterday through London, some of it with pictures with GPS locations because you can also broadcast that through Twitter as a part of the metadata with each tweet that you send. So it's fascinating for Following the news and all that was on BBC and Sky who did have some on-location reports with like the same incessant over and over, the same helicopter view shot. You know there was nothing really new or fresh or accurate, a current about it. And using the stuff that I've hacked up personally here at home to track it was beautiful! It's very interesting...I would have to say news medium is coming really close to being that and it's all in the interface you know what people are using it to keep track of Demi Moore and Aston Kutcher

07:51 You know, it's equally as interesting to track what people are saying around the world who have grabbed onto this meme of using tags. The tags that tag their information I'm loving it! I really am It was late to this party but boy...I'm trying to grab it with both hands Well you were actually early in the party but then you kind of slacked off Well I didn't do anything to-it wasn't about the following Right, you didn't do anything Yeah just wanted to figure out what the hell was going on Seems to me to be what you know, do you have people like Dan Gilmore all these other? You know a lot of people that are just perfect. They're pundits they sit around Punitizing right and they never actually, you know They never accomplish much but they make these you know assertions and there was this thing a couple years ago about citizen journalism And then everybody who knew what they did was they took the idea of citizen Journalism and then put it back on the but the problem they make is always put it back on an old model or

08:47 So they figured citizen journalists are going to go online, start blogs and solicit stuff. It was just old... it was essentially a newspaper model that wasn't gonna work. In other words you're gonna be out there writing for free Nobody considered this what you're describing as what citizen journalism actually becomes which is exactly completely new system where in other words there's no stories You know, the problem with citizen journalism is all of the citizens out there are going to go out and write stories. And stories of course are something that goes into newspapers so everything is like seen as some old you take the old model and then pull one element out and throw in some new idea it doesn't do that

09:27 It becomes its own thing. Exactly And you can't predict it, who knew? Precisely and it's because of the critical mass based upon the celebrity hype that everyone is on this thing and thank God! Thank God! The beauty of 140 character limit just makes it beautiful So you can parse this thing and I'm building parsers, controls that if something comes in... I am so...I am really into it. But not for the hey...well actually part of the beauty is that people are saying hey I'm walking here I see some people protesting That's a raw data point that put together can create a beautiful story It's beautiful

10:14 So, not to beat it up because everybody moans about... I do the Leo Show and they talk about Twitter incessantly. Yeah, but in a different way. They're talking about it as the broadcast communication medium who has more followers Which is is a very valid conversation But something happened I have to give Dave Weiner props for this because he sees it I read his blog scripting calm Even though we don't really see eye-to-eye and have its scripting issues you have a scripting comm is the web so it is yeah Yeah, so scripting news is the name of it You know see I'd I nobody does

10:58 Well, it's really a shame because I'm a dick and he is an idiot. We can't really get together right? You know...I am horrible person and he is mentally insane that the way we categorize each other It too bad because the combination... If you put two of them together we have small A-bomb What is that mushroom cloud over there in Oakland Tesla will be nothing compared us uh... just staying on the g twenty for a moment of the protest did indeed starts uh... pretty much a week before anything takes place and ended the g twenty summit will be taking place in the city of london out there which is going to get a lot of people are doing what you're trying to see no other city as well yeah i'm glad u s the city of london he's is kind of like the vatican it is his own entity has its own mayor has his own police forces on fire brigade along and it has its own laws indeed

11:54 So you want to be very little city within what we think of as London American see now all London I'm coming to London. It's a big giant town, but the City of London is a little enclave within the larger and London sphere Yeah yeah And so you gotta be very careful what you do there because You know it's basically their own private police force say they look kind of like regular different to ya They do look a little different So people are... Wait, what is the point of the City of London? Oh! Well it being the financial capital of well they would like to think the world and I would have to say after all the regulation for you know the IPO market definitely moved to UK after. What's your favorite regulation? Sarbanes-Oxley! After Starbucks. It needs to be like an echoing thing when i say that Try again hold on a second

10:58 Well, it's really a shame because I'm a dick and he is an idiot. We can't really get together right? You know...I am horrible person and he is mentally insane that the way we categorize each other It too bad because the combination... If you put two of them together we have small A-bomb What is that mushroom cloud over there in Oakland Tesla will be nothing compared us uh... just staying on the g twenty for a moment of the protest did indeed starts uh... pretty much a week before anything takes place and ended the g twenty summit will be taking place in the city of london out there which is going to get a lot of people are doing what you're trying to see no other city as well yeah i'm glad u s the city of london he's is kind of like the vatican it is his own entity has its own mayor has his own police forces on fire brigade along and it has its own laws indeed

11:54 So you want to be very little city within what we think of as London American see now all London I'm coming to London. It's a big giant town, but the City of London is a little enclave within the larger and London sphere Yeah yeah And so you gotta be very careful what you do there because You know it's basically their own private police force say they look kind of like regular different to ya They do look a little different So people are... Wait, what is the point of the City of London? Oh! Well it being the financial capital of well they would like to think the world and I would have to say after all the regulation for you know the IPO market definitely moved to UK after. What's your favorite regulation? Sarbanes-Oxley! After Starbucks. It needs to be like an echoing thing when i say that Try again hold on a second

12:52 Yeah, I'm ready. Go ahead Sarbanes-oxley! I don't have enough hands to control everything that is necessary for this show We have some new jingles by the way from the fabulous Jeff Smith who? Who donates to the show in his own way and I think it's a fantastic contribution Don't look over here! Did nothing to see here! Ooh, look at that A couple more which maybe I'll get to during the show. So anyway, the point of that of course is to have complete control over the financial industry with its own rules and regulations and there's kind of a gate around this thing. This would be like in New York City having another town within Manhattan called Wall Street being its own town. Its own police and you know that kinda thing

13:46 We don't do that here in the USA. Well, well... The fractal is of course coming now that we know that the Freedom Tower has been renamed to One World Tower. Could it get any more obvious? How did I miss THAT?! Well its real news John! Why would anyone actually want to learn about that? No this was a news story that was carried fairly wide widely, um Freedom Tower is a new tower they're gonna build where the twin towers are blowed up. Yes Because it's good I guess the address is one world trade centers that is the address yes They're calling at one World Tower what? I mean you can't get more blatant than that You know what I'm saying It's like and you know that there's a group of guys going No, I know there is Of course we've been in those groups uh-huh sure you have

14:44 Well, not that group. Oh okay you are... But groups that have a similar kind of sick sense of humor What kind of struck me about these so back to the city of London and these protests So what's happening is we have the G20 it's the 20 biggest economies Of the world and two others The Netherlands is joining as well of course because they are the Bilderberg founders so there always allowed in but forget who else one other country that's allowed And at this meeting, we don't really know what's going to be discussed. Of course a lot of talk now about the global currency. Gee where have I heard that one before? Lots of talk about the low carbon economy etc... So people were out there protesting and as i was following this on in my Twitter news system

15:32 The main meme, which I believe was organized by the unions who were responsible for some of the march yesterday was jobs justice and climate. And the dichotomy... The dichotomy of people protesting for climate change regulation to the G20 just twists my mind in unbelievable knots. This is exactly what they want you to do! They want you to buy into it! Obviously, the protesters have been co-opted Yes And I believe this is... What I could tell from The Union Oh but The Guardian oh man they were broadcasting live streaming live live reports oh geez

16:18 So, you know be very and so along with this came something very dangerous that I want to talk to you about because you can always put my brain jumble into perspective help me straighten things out. So, yes I'm admitting it. For the past couple days flyers were being handed out news reports saying if you work in the City of London if you are in the banking or financial services industry dress down because you don't want to be attacked okay and even The Financial Times front page today this is a weekend edition has

16:58 uh... picture of a guy in the black like a funeral undertaker's hat with the sign around his neck that says eat the bankers and their headline is rage against the banking machine very hip by the way how public anger spread around the world this fractal is spreading everywhere john in the netherlands They had a crisis meeting until one in the morning televised about two bankers who received bonuses leaving the bank that of course was one of the bailed out banks. So it's a fractal of this, we're really angry at the bankers now here is what I wanted to get to with you and it has been on my mind for 48 hours straight

17:37 I'm sure you've heard the saying where, and it probably stems from the Second World War. First they came for the gypsies and I didn't say anything then they came for the black people and i didn't say anything Then they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything And then they came for me and no one was left The fact...and we kind of glossed over on the last show but the fact that our US representatives who work for us supposedly Have you started to use the Internal Revenue Service as a weapon against people, against citizens? As a punitive measure.

18:18 So I'm talking about a bill that passed the Senate immediately or the House immediately to tax people making over $250,000 who receive money bonus money from bailed out institutions. To tax them at a 90% rate it took me awhile to parse because of course internally i'm going ha ha but then I'm saying holy crap who the fuck is next I have been assaulted by the IRS, I've been assaulted by multiple tax institutions. They wear guns when they come into your office! They are in my eyes a terrorist organization who claim people to be guilty and you have to prove your innocence which is exactly the opposite of how it's supposed to work and they sentence you while you're proving your innocence with all kinds of sanctions and penalties

19:08 Should we not be very careful? Is not something happening here where a group of people, in this case not based upon heritage creed or religion but based upon occupation are being vilified and singled out and discriminated against. Shouldn't we not be incredibly careful about this John? Well if it wasn't for the fact that they're bankers Yeah, but so replace the word bankers. Replace no no no replace the word bankers with Jews it's the same thing It's the same thing this is what happened in Weimar yeah? Yeah The guy guys like you all worked up The point is that what's really going on here Is that they've created a smoke screen for our bankers

19:51 with this night you said okay the public's worked and they've been in new european countries are actually people going out i understand seven england and yeah i mean some of the ruining cars throwing their scratchers skiing there was a style not type stuff breaking windows here on a break through the walls was somebody here we don't read me don't really like that kind of thing so what we have to do is assuage in the public so let us raise the public by putting through some law that is obviously illegal and is never going to fly because what happens when you do this kind of thing it actually works in the courts don't say hey you can't do this which is what's gonna happen by the way with his okay that your prediction will see we'll see I suck at happiness impossible

20:34 For one thing, it's completely illegal. And secondly everybody knows that there are two things that aren't going to happen and this is one of them they put this thing out we're gonna charge him get all our money back because we're putting a law through that's going to be 90% and everybody knows this law is unconstitutional And the fact of the matter is that everybody realizes, although only a few people have expressed this. You being one of them and Rush Limbaugh your doppelganger being the other one... Much prettier Realizes well or triple ganger in his case so everybody realizes you know that what's really going on or the powers-that-be note it is set up like this

21:11 This will calm the public down, okay? The bonuses will come back. In fact you know Chris Dodd was the one who pushed the bonuses. Yep in fact it turns out John I also found out it's more like 400 million not 180 just whatever essentially it's a redefinition of salary yeah because what happened was they say we couldn't you know because if we're gonna take do this tarp thing you know the salaries are gonna be capped oh well what are we gonna get around the caps Chris Dodd comes along and says, well here's what we'll do. Well let's just redefine everything as a bonus and so people will work on a certain basis and then they get a bonus instead of salary and you still get your million-and-a-half or two million dollars or whatever it is that you get

21:49 Okay, so that goes through and the public finds out about it. It's all let's kill all the bankers And so oh god what we're gonna do now? So okay I got an idea Let's put this law together is going to tax these guys for all their money when if it'll never get collected ever They won't we won't collect a dime of it because of course if we actually could then we could tax the catholic church out a business or we can take some guy who voted against this out of business or we can taxed the city of san francisco out-of-business or we could just target anybody we wanted in his tax on that is the days there's a new slogan Tax the gaze. So the point is that this thing is just a red herring, it's a distraction. Oh in other words... It's a big distraction than the real distraction. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here That's it right?

22:40 Exactly. Okay, so my point is... So you've almost confirmed my point that was not the hatred of the Jews although different in Weimar Germany? Was that not also a distraction so people could focus on that while the real terror was taking place behind-the-scenes Right, but of course in the meantime they decided to put these camps up because I guess a few guys took it seriously. Well this is obviously the danger when a few guys take it seriously Yeah no cause there's a lot of dummies out there So I actually sure that you said, well, I'm just going to say, I mean this like the IRS thing. There's a few of those guys out there that are just bureaucrats that take things through. This is like we see more and more of this. You're seeing it in police departments or seeing it all over the place because we haven't had any situations where people don't get to work for a living anymore especially kids they don't get when they're in high school they don't get to work at a factory. Well, that's about the change John

23:39 Yeah, they don't get paper routes. They don't get to do it I mean if you go to these towns during the summertime just nothing but kids roaming around and he asked any of them What why don't you get a job? Well? I mean that's not like you say it that way But you've talked to yes, you do get off my lawn kids Why didn't you go get a job? Curiously, I don't have a lawn. So the but I wrote a column about this some years ago bitching about all the kids I saw in this little town in Washington and then I got a bunch of letters from these same kids said look we can't we get a job if We could there's nothing going on? I don't want to you know The only thing is minimum wage working at you know some yeah And he came get those jobs because there's not that many of them The point is that you never got enough work experience as a young person to learn the ropes about what you take seriously, when you go by the book and when you don't. All these kinds of things that you're supposed to know which is no – yeah I see the rule there but I'm not going to follow it. That's stupid!

24:31 And you know, it's the old story. You see in a lot of old movies from the 40s and 50s where they were you got the guy who was the A-hole is the guy who goes by the book every single thing that's in that law you follow to the letter That's the way its done We used to have a post guy postal guy here In the town I live in and It was like a small post office with one guy in it Him And he was obviously some ex go-by the book, you know low level clerk type. I would go in there to pick up stuff that was left at the post office for 20 years!

25:08 He knew who I was and every time... your ID sir. Your ID, your ID sir. You know okay yeah here see now maybe you can recognize me next time i come in anyway the post office is always a dud they finally took him fired or got retired for God knows what and then they put in some efficient you know people in the things that post office really isn't great now I mean everyone's there fast and efficient this guy was always real slow well they're gonna be me that experience thing where you learn where you go by the way so we were turning into the whole world strain a bunch of bureaucratic numb nuts

25:47 who don't know, you know. And that's how you get into that situation I mean let's face it the German mess during World War II took place after almost a decade of nobody working and you had a bunch people coming up without any experience and they wouldn't read the book. So this is bull! Right but what is happening now with the House Resolution 1388, the so-called Give Act As we talked about on the last show, mandatory volunteerism is going to be... Which is another interesting violation of the 13th amendment for slavery. Don't you think it's weird that the first black president we have reinstituted slavery? What a deal is that! Don't look over here! Nothing to see here!

26:37 But here's what amazing, John. So what this act would do and the GIVE Act reauthorizes the National and Community Service Act of 1990. They've been trying this for a while apparently in the Domestic Volunteer Act of 1973 would make any American I believe between 18-25 It would be compulsory for community service and this includes Special zones where you wear your uniform, and it's a special type of school But what's interesting is that I mentioned this to Patricia now She has a whole different background And you know she comes from she comes from the original gitmo nation in old Europe

27:20 And I said, you know so what would you think? You know this is crazy and how would you feel if because of course you know Christina may be living here but if she's between 18 and 25. I'm sure they'll have a zone here and she'll have to go on Saturdays or Sundays and wear her little uniform And armband don't forget and hand I bet you there's gonna be arm bands, but Patricia said yeah That that's not a bad idea. Be good for these kids you know and I'm like yeah the idea of You know and this is oh? This is the this is my life I gave up on it really, I didn't argue with it. I just took it as important information because this is how people get tricked into these things but before you know you literally have the brown shirts operating and there's commercials all over the radio...I just heard one this morning on Classic FM which Patricia always has upstairs typical they're targeting the right people

28:12 If you see someone if you see something suspicious report it and literally if you see someone looking at CCTV cameras You should report them. Yeah, that's like we're turning away hold on a second let's start let's stop right there If they're looking at the camera, the cameras looking at them. Why do you need to report them? The camera sees them and they can report themselves let him do their own job Well thank you for injecting some logic into the conversation but obviously it's because there is a need to create some form of police state where we're all this is that everybody suspicious of each other yes our domestic

28:51 You know, one time I was... this was about two or three years ago. As everyone knows who listens to me at all knows that usually have a camera or two with me and i'm taking pictures of everything! I am just kind of a photography junkie It's like an addiction. So I documented the entire trip from, and it was one of these things that I do all the time by the way, I've documented a number of these things. How you get from Manhattan to JFK using the Long Island Expressway plus that crazy little free, well it's not free because it is some sort of a shuttle that goes from... The Jutney? The Jitney whatever its called. No I can't remember the name of it for some reason but anyways no it's really about modern sub, like an elevated train that goes from

29:45 One of the stations, I'll think of the name in a second, to JFK drops you right off at Terminal 6. Anyway, so I documented the whole process because the toughest part of the process is actually getting onto the right train on a Long Island Railway out of Penn Station because you have to go down an extra level and you can't find the tickets. It's very poorly done to be honest about it but it's a cheap way to get back to the airport and it's faster than a cab by a lot. You get nice little train ride out of it. Anyway, so I'm taking pictures of the whole process and some woman who happened to be Indian you know in is from India. I've taken some pictures You know you can't take pictures She just out of the blue this woman she's not like a cop Pictures yeah, she's like telling me I can't take wait John this is wrong This is wrong do the accent man no

30:47 I don't have a real strong accent so it wasn't like you should not be taking right now no you're not going to be taking pictures anyway she told me that take pictures and i said and i looked at her like she was crazy and i said and i just acted didn't even say anything back to the only the only response is you should not be polluting the earth with your carbon dioxide shut your trap Yeah, well anyway so but I was just stunned by some you know citizen. Yes But again you know from a cultural of repression generally not as bad as Europeans like making the telling me what to do and by the way on this chat a cop on the chat room at noagenda drop calm people are wondering who they is and the answer is Kurt Loder Just say now You don't know who Kurt Loder is do ya?

31:37 No. Oh, that's too bad... That's that old guy on MTV who used to write for Rolling Stone magazine? Oh okay yeah no I know who it is. It's funny He's the guy But anyway so that's all right train, woman picture don't take I got the whole thing documented but i'm stuttering and stammering because you were outraged by it no no i was actually stuttering and stammering because i was almost remembering the name of the station that you get off on the uh... is in manhattan? No its out on the island. You take the long island expressway to Long Island

32:17 Man, I can almost think of it damn. It's connected maybe somebody in Twitter can know it's nothing just want to pull out my Favorite words connect the D Poughkeepsie you get off an Aurora. I mean anyway there's tons of links Or there will be tons of links in the show notes today at noagenda.mevo.com I've collected a number about this GIVE Act which is, as you say it's unconstitutional It's crazy and it's total indoctrination of... well its Gitmo Nation Of course Can I um

32:53 Because we kind of got off the G20 thing, I just wanted to share something with the audience which you can take for whatever advice you want it to be. Actually, I had coffee earlier this week with Andrew Horowitz and his son Oh that's right! By the way before we go into that its Jamaica Station and then you get on the air train from JFK from there Okay in case your traveling to the Isle Of Man by the way its the way to go Oh, much better. Don't take a cab. No, never take that. This is faster and it takes... the train to Long Island Railroad goes to Penn Station and it runs about every 10 minutes I mean it's just amazing It's like the Gatwick Express and the Heathrow Express if you want to get into London hop that train 15- 17 minutes in your you're in London Right, and its cheaper A lot cheaper So we touched on and I went back to read this site

33:45 Because I didn't realize, and I'm just kind of replaying some of the conversation that had with Andrew Horowitz, the Discipline Investor. You do a show with him which is the DH something? DH Unplugged. DH Unplugged exactly so this what was the name of that site... Of course now i can't find it momentarily Financialstability.gov, which is basically an outline of a site it's an HTML page with a couple links but it has linked to very important PDF file and that is this private public investment plan that Secretary Geithner has proposed to fix this whole mess

34:34 And there's a couple of good YouTube videos explaining it. I left those in the show notes as well, but just let me explain very briefly and how this is basically the big dagger in the back that we've all been waiting for So the idea is new entities will be created New companies who will bid on and buy the toxic assets from these banks so AIG would be a big one And so they'll create a market price which will not be 100 cents to the dollar obviously it'll be less. But they only have to come up with 90, I'm sorry 86

35:14 They only have to come up with 14% of the money that they bid for these assets. In fact, less, only 7%, because you come up with let's just say $100, you come up with $7, the Federal Reserve will match your $7 and the Treasury – just like the Fed by the way but the Treasury which is our money, taxpayer money – will guarantee their remaining $86 So again, toxic assets will be purchased by new companies who have raised at least $7 for every hundred dollars themselves. The Federal Reserve which also of course will create this money off our back but that doesn't matter it's for the upside

35:56 And so they put in $7, the rest is guaranteed by the taxpayer. So here's the loophole and Horowitz confirmed this with me Watch for executives leaving these big companies right now and it's happening couple left I think Citibank a couple left Bank of America you'll see more and more leaving and where are they going? They're going toward new funds that create pursuing outside interest whatever the bullshit line is They're basically going to create these new companies And they're using money from their old corporate entities, which if that's easy you know because those guys lend money all the time just not to you and I. They'll lend it to this new company then bid on the assets and say oh we don't think that's worth 30 cents a dollar We think that's worthwhile That's at least 80 cents of the dollar That's really good stuff You know? Well we can get that

36:46 So they put up the $7 which they basically borrowed from their old company. The Fed matches that seven dollars and the rest comes in from the Treasury, effectively taking the 100% exposure of those toxic assets and transferring it to a new place where no one gives a shit! And it's and and of course those are those does ask assets are toxic they will bust exposing the American taxpayer to an estimated two trillion dollars, of course you know I think it's much much higher But there's an estimated two trillion dollars exposure and the FDIC will be the ones overseeing these new entities well. I give up I Give up

37:31 So, and you can read it. You should give up this is just to beat you down Well the thing is and as you said nothing to see here please move on everyone's focus on these bonuses kill the bankers eat the bankers but at the same time the true theft is happening Almost it's spelled out even with these numbers would like the $7 and 86 dollars. It's a Geithner's plan is written for kindergarten Kindergarteners you can understand this link in the show notes So by the way your links in the show notes are fantastic You got lots of them way too many, but not too many well that other words just as I give you look at me Oh my god. I mean, it's like a huge its its almost like

38:16 Robo robot wisdom that site is one guy's been doing for years a lot of really good links And they're just lined up, but they're categorized the categorized so well They are categorized so little more than then they probably need to be I mean It's just I mean. I think people can go there and just click click click click click-click and really have a good time reading this stuff. Well, here are my categories Gitmo Nation Climate Change Aviation hot category for today Financial Crisis Economy Bailout Bankers Minnesota MILF which we certainly have to talk about Health Shadow Puppet Theater which I want to get too And then of course everybody's favorite category! And now back to real news We have winners John

39:01 We have winners. We have the winners of the 2009 hottest vegetarians! Oh do we? Yes, let me send you the link. Oh send me the link. Yeah hold on a second it is Fiona and I'm so glad she won Because, uh... You have links to these winners right? Yeah yeah here it comes. I'm sending you the first one No i mean you're gonna put on this site too Of course of course! It's always in the show notes So Fiona- Uh..I think this is the one who was so weak she couldn't stand up HLM super babe Oh this is the one that couldn't stand up Look at her ribs man Her ribs are poking She's still down there oh she's like gonna die Here she got ribs all over the place This woman has got ribs coming out of her thighs

39:48 Wait, there's also one of the guys in the guy category. Well she's kind of pretty in that one picture You know you know I'm lying down state well She's got a she's got a nice figure. She's got she looks okay. No. She like weak she does look weak and Ludwig Ludwig won. He's from Sweden doesn't look very Swedish I don't think showing all those ribs is a positive thing I think it's a very bad thing and I think it's bad because this is what young girls aspire to Yeah, they're already there's a big trend that was always get the hair. I was giving my hair done and when I Should be laughing I did I get a haircut once in a while Excuse me for living

40:32 Just like I had a visual. I'm sorry well when I'm there, I'm just sitting there reading this National Enquirer which is of course So they did during the national enquirer There was all these articles or this long article about all these actresses and including the girl that's on TV on the 30 Rock and a whole bunch of different celebrities that are all starving themselves to death so they can get as thin as possible. And it's like, a big trend in Hollywood right now is just lose as much weight you can so your like thin as a rail. It's not like that new John, that has been around for awhile No I know its not new but its an interesting counter-trend because there was this big thing recently if you recall

41:16 ban skinny models from the runway and it's getting ridiculous. And every time they try to do that, it never works out you end up with people who still want to look skinny So I have, since my schedule... By the way, I went to this other link. This one here from PETA dot org dot UK Yes And they got the picture of Fiona Yeah Only she's like pulling her pants off What is that? Well because it's kind of you know how they promise the terrorists 72 virgins so if you don't eat meat You'll get this girl That's kind of the message Yeah more likely to get the guy He doesn't look very Swedish does he

41:56 He doesn't, he doesn't look... from Malmo who knows but there's a Swede that'll think that's funny. So ummm.... He looks like at least he eats Yeah he does! He looks like he's probably on the juice too man. He's probably doing steroids. He might be could be bovine steroids Ummm so I have She is definitely not on roids No no and she needs to have some... she needs to eat some mash or something. She needs to eat some oatmeal at least So I was very excited. We had another new chapter in transparency as the White House did its first online virtual town hall meeting, in fact I harped about this on MeVeo today which is running throughout the weekend don't bother looking at it and I know you haven't seen yet and the way this worked... You do it on a weekend? Yeah! Huh. I work fucking excuse me I'm trying not to swear because I'm hoping that we can get radio affiliates so I'm trying

42:55 By the way, if you want to distribute this show fine. It doesn't matter You can take it you can copy it you can put on your own podcast stream You could put it on your local radio station your low at low power FM station We're fine with that. It's a open source radio source. That's right Oh It's morning somewhere So there were these questions and then the final list of questions were the list of questions, and then people voted on a list of questions so that the president could address them. It didn't look a lot of it. It was all pre-screened basically and stuff was you know set up in a certain way that it didn't have the kind of live feel To it like we have where, you know the stream cuts in and out And it's all crappy and shit there was like professional so there was one question well There's one remark that the president made about halfway through and I just want you might have heard already But I do want to share because this is incredibly Interesting to me here we go

43:59 We took votes about which questions were going to be asked. And I think 3 million people voted or...3.5 million people voted? I have to say that there was one question that was voted on, that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy Wait for it! ...and job creation and uh...I don't know what this says about the online audience So, when I heard this and you had to see him guffawing and laughing. First of all the question was not just legal it was number one question in four categories including health care for medicinal marijuana but for the president who was elected by online audience who raised millions of dollars in campaign contributions apparently supposedly allegedly from the online audience

44:53 This is an absolute outrage for him to speak to the online audience as if they're a bunch of fricking stoners who have nothing better to do with their time. Even starts off with this question ranked high on the list I can see that even wrote that let's slip that little joke in there yeah so you know and by the way, third of our prisons in United States are filled with marijuana drug uh... criminals you know we could see significantly reduce our Our prison population there would be so much probably save about three billion dollars a year in that overhead and probably another week attacks You know I go of course is a specious argument against taxing this but you could tax this and pick up another Number of billions of dollars in tax money, and you decriminalize the whole scene it's not going to change the usage much as

45:48 Meanwhile, meanwhile... And he's also promised to let you know. On the same day John another DEA bust in San Francisco of Emelon's California Cannabis Clinic on Howard Street Another bust going on while he is laughing at people thinking about the audacity of wanting to legalize marijuana but as I said before The audacity of dope! As I said before, it will not happen because first of all the president knows as everyone let me finish it. I don't care what you say listen to me Listen look let me be clear

46:26 Because the real economy runs on drug money and they need that money flowing through the economy. And they don't want our drugs, the drug of the people, the weed which you can grow in your backyard competing with the drug grown in Afghanistan 90% of the world's opium trade coming from there which our troops are there to defend Anyway so then Robert Gibbs because this is where it gets interesting The press secretary he has asked this question And his response is even more insulting. So this is a question from one of the reporters, you know where they sit and Helen sits there... This guy Gibbs sucks! Well it's beautiful to listen to him here we go When the president said he doesn't think legalizing marijuana would give the economy a boost was he giving a political answer or an economic answer? Great question

47:23 I mean is that a great question or not? Yeah, it's a great question. Okay this guy by the way...I won't play the whole clip but he comes back later and says you know you may be making a joke out of it but it's a serious question so here's the answer Does he have economic numbers to back that up? Uh..I'm unaware of a CEA analysis Regarding that so he's saying I'm unaware of a I guess it's committee on economic Analysis or whatever see what it is. Yeah, you know no one's done any analysis on it I think was he picking his nose yeah I Think you've heard the president talk about

48:06 getting us on a path towards sustained economic growth. I don't think he believes that is part of that plan. I'd point you to the Justice Department. Oh, you mean the Justice Department who was raiding legal medical marijuana dispensaries? The President asked people to ask their questions obviously interests aligned with certain viewpoints did so. Interests aligned with certain viewpoints?! You stoners!

48:46 I can't even listen to it anymore. But it's... Of course not, but you know by the way there is a Gibbs is the guy who remember there was where Obama had made some comment about you know being special Olympics and assaulted a bunch of people and then like I guess something there's a bowler out there who has like a 200 average who says although even though they're Olympian Yeah, but he's a really good bowler and I actually used to bowl with guys who had various ailments that would they would bowl really weird but they would bowl these great games. It was amazing and so I guess it was this bowler that has a pretty high average and he challenged Obama to a game you know? And it became a big issue all the people wrote up and they brought it up at the press conference and somebody asked him is Obama going to do this play of bowling game down in the White House? The White House has a bowling alley

49:37 In the White House bowling alley and Gibbs says no comment. Why do you say no comment to that? Because he's a douche! He said total asshole, I've never read it. He is the worst guy ever. Well, the whole Special Olympics comment I was okay with because I understood what he was saying. And can we just not get offended for a moment about stuff? No, I agree with that but the fact that Gibbs would say no comment is so it's some sort of state secret. That's offensive! Yeah, oooohh... By the way, the right-wing radio talk show guys have given Obama a moniker that is kind of catching on and hasn't quite totally caught on especially with the public but they call him Giggles

50:26 Giggles president giggles and because he giggles a lot when he's on you did all these talk shows in years He does give a little bit. Yeah, that's true And so they're calling him giggles and it's it's interesting because it keeps cropping up and I think it could catch Giggles, I don't like it personally Hey, we've got some some speed happening up here and get my nation east as There's a huge push for couple things. One of course would be the European Union elections scheduled for June as well as this important document that needs to be signed and ratified, the Lisbon Treaty Of course one of the last countries in all 26 member states have to sign on The Czech Republic since the president

51:22 The Czech Republic said hey, you know I don't like this. I don't think we should be signing this there's too much power We don't want this European army This whole thing ushers in the climate change which I don't believe in either he said I'm probably not gonna ratify this so they basically toppled the whole government around The Russians are watching this going, my God is that easy? Why didn't you send our troops in there years ago. They just sent in the jackals and they pulled that shit right out from under them. You're out buddy! I was a duly elected. Get out! So the fractal is apparent everywhere. The EU customers

52:06 I'll get back to the elections in a moment. The EU customers will have smart energy meters in their future that will... and this is the EU Observer which you need to read from time-to-time, euobserver.com uh... we will indeed have smart meters that they are will be mandatory in fact it will be a crime to not to have your smart meter installed he will be a crime so basically now information from inside your house go straight to the government and even says here They've introduced provisions to fight energy poverty when gas and electricity bills eat up so much of a user's income they cannot afford other basics. So the government will start to regulate all this for you, and will help you turn on your lights at appropriate times, and help you wash at appropriate times... And maybe shut down your shit altogether at appropriate times! Oh yeah it is going to be- We have a violator on meter section 106 2E 1B Please turn off that meter immediately

53:08 So I've got, you've gotta see some of these billboards for the EU election. I'm gonna send you this link right now It is too funny for words so it's once again built for kindergartners Graphical elements here it is for the and these links of course are all in the show notes. Just have a quick gander at this John just so you could see So and these are postcards that you can download print out and use yourself Scroll down to the bottom there's four postcards There's a picture of a laptop on the left and a bottle of baby milk on the right. And then the text, how should we help balance family and career? My favorite is how much labeling do we need just look at the chicken with no labeling and then chicken on the right with a million labels all over which of course is what they're advocating

54:05 And then the far right one, what should cars run on? You see on the left a jerry can of gas and in the middle you see a battery like a double A battery. Yeah! Run my car into a double A battery and I'm in. That's what I want. What is that thing on the right like a bush of... I have no idea. Oh I guess it's some sort of something you row or maybe make into alcohol. But it's just amazing, amazing. It sounds like for idiots At the same time again from... I know this is from Politiken What kind of energy do we have? We have a flame We have a sun We have the radiation symbol and then a wind turbine So here is what they're doing to really garner a lot of support not just for Wait wait stop

54:49 all postcards in JPEG format and they have them in all languages. Oh, every language you want? There's a French version, German-Lithuanian, there is Dutch, Polish Portuguese Romanian Isn't it beautiful? Unbelievable So in order to get people to buy into more European Union more global state They are, the parliament European Parliament is voting now to hand out food to the poor. But of course you have to pledge your allegiance to the European Union before you can eat! Wait, say this again? You have to pledge your allegiance to the European Union before you can eat it?! Yeah. How does that work!? Well I mean...you don't really have to pledge... Do you want this hot dog! Yeah, I'd love to have a hot dog. Pledge your allegiance to the European Union! You gotta read the pamphlet first and then get your hotdog or your wiener and sauerkraut as the situation may be

55:54 Could be in Germany. In the Netherlands also these meters coming in, this will be... The Netherlands is already in the process of implementing the black GPS box in the car FYI they're much further along so it's all these fractals popping up all over the place now a German... Lead foil my friends lead foil buy it while you can So the German government had already said, hey you know let's get a bonus going for people who scrap as in trash their environmentally unfriendly cars. Now they're saying we're also gonna hand out bonuses for scrapping old office furniture and coffee machines it's totally out of control What if they got against coffee machines? Well... They are unfriendly to the environment

56:45 Because they stay on all the time and it probably warm. Probably hey, maybe maybe these smart meters could Could just turn my coffee on in the morning And so make sure that my coffee is freshly brewed I'm sure the government would be more than happy to do that for me Yeah You know they probably use that as a selling point So reading through my Twitter fall of information Throughout the weekend and I follow mrs. Kutcher M-R-S K-U-T C-H-E-R. Mrs. Kutcher is Demi Moore on Twitter. Oh, I thought it was Ashton Well that's her husband Oh no see I thought he was Mrs. Ku...Kutcher No he's uh Okay go on Whatever he is And all of a sudden I start You know cause usually you miss these tweets she'll send a couple whatever and so they scroll by and don't pay attention but then I see a lot of activity and she like come on let's do this people we can do this! I'm like what? What are we gonna She's totally like

57:41 It's like, yeah we can do this. Let's all join in. Retweet this! This is Demi Moore okay? One of the hottest actresses in the world Good actress too It's for Earth Hour Oh yeah, that was... oh damn it was last night and I missed it! Isn't it today? No no. It's Saturday night. I'm sure it was. I thought it was 8pm tonight Well, I missed it then. 830. Yeah. Earth Hour the idea is we're going to shut everything off for an hour. That sucks because you know what I wanted to look across the bridge and see if San Francisco is gonna be shut down cause I know they are gonna turn off the bay bridge lights. Yeah Earth Hour. Let me see here. I have a link here US Cities Poised

58:22 for Earth hour Saturday night yet one hour so we missed it damn 8 30 p.m.. The 930 and this was this is you know This is a feeble attempt Not just feeble, it's an idiotic attempt to bring global awareness to demise climate change whatever it is this infuriating it was so feeble that I will plan to actually pay attention to it and I couldn't even do it. It's the week leading the feeble we can't even make that work The simplest thing I was gonna go stand on the balcony and look at San Francisco. They didn't nap nothing Don't want to see lights going off you know if they were no, I don't know I want to apologize put a camera one apologize everybody who's having problems with the stream It's I have no idea what it is this server some guy says that your bitrate is wrong No, the bit rate is

59:18 Let me just double check and needs to drop his up. No no it's 64 kilobits It's everything's the same nothings changed, and I've noticed problems It's a streaming server or whatever you know it someone's bandwidth is host somewhere And I'm sorry now they finally they've already there on to us Yeah, ha ha no kidding By the way, I want to ask certainly our UK listeners here in Gitmo Nation East. I noticed something weird and I wonder if anyone else witnessed this? We had some form of either a spike an electricity spike Or I'm thinking maybe a magnetic or solar wind or something happened. It screwed up just about every single electronic device in my house, most noticeably the digital Sky TV satellite box. Was this at 930 last night? No...

1:00:11 Well, you don't know. No it was Friday. It was when everybody threw the switches back on and just went whoa! No no no it wasn't last night it was two days ago. You know those deals where people all flush the toilet at one time? At one time and it blows up the... the pipes. Now also all of the free view televisions that we have which are digital television recorders, free over-the air... They were locking in and they were putting those systems in place My printer reset itself to January 1st 1907 That was a bug So it was really weird I want to know if anyone else had similar problems

1:00:51 Very typical just you it's just me is there after being dead well I'm getting a message to get him off this topic. Okay, I promise that wouldn't talk about it anymore But I'm gonna have to rescind since there's new information from the world of aviation Of course I'm referring to flight 1549 two piece of information reached me which kind of complete some of my theories The first one is that? Well, it kind of flows together. There's a photographer named Stephen Mallon and Stephen took a number of...a series of pictures which he actually planned to publish in the book of the salvage operation of Flight 1549 His pictures were extremely good mainly because they focus on the front of the aircraft that is being lifted out of the water in which by the way you can see there was absolutely no hull damage whatsoever only damaged two one engines missing and one is clearly damaged

1:01:50 But no other damage at all, which is quite amazing to fly into a flock of birds and only have them hit your engine and nothing else. And they do dent aircraft He was summoned by the insurance company To take these pictures down At the same time the insurance company said you did not have the right to give those to the FAA The Federal Aviation Administration Guess which insurance company insured that aircraft John Monsanto. No, try AIG. Yeah so your sense of humor today really is lacking. AIG... Anyone who listens to the show knows that's funny It is funny I liked it but I didn't have a rimshot I can give you a quick... On the heels of this the Federal Aviation Administration does not want to release any data or information about bird strikes

1:02:53 how frequent they occur, why they occur. And so I did a little bit of delving around So there's one important thing you have to know if you get a double bird strike that is known it is so rare and in fact I can't find another instance of that happening It is known as an act of God An act of god Is a get out of jail free card for the insurance company Exactly I'm thinking, John, knowing that there were Bank of America executives on board and I'm not talking about the 30 people in the back. I'm talking about the guys in first class and knowing this AIG story

1:03:37 was paid off because that you don't get a three million dollar book deal of which one is a book of poems. The poems book is the giveaway, maybe Sullenberger that's his message to people what can I do at least alert people that I'm getting paid off so either Sullenberger was in on it from the beginning right which somehow I doubt except for his radio call but I believe that these pilots are probably trained to call a bird strike immediately because if you have double engine failure, that's like huge liability. That would essentially take the industry down so one of two things is happening either Sullenberger was in on it and this is whole prep for the airline industry who need massive bailout

1:04:28 Say, because he also went to the Senate and did this whole thing about well only because guys who are as experienced as I am you know in our industry is going to shit no one's paying the pilots enough so you can see lots of people dying because Sully is not on board. So either it was a setup To prepare everyone for massive aviation bailouts or which was confirmed by the way by the accident that happened a few weeks later Which was the amateur behind, you know the one that crashed with it took care of one woman with it. You know that continental flight whatever it was Oh the Buffalo? Right exactly so there's your confirmation very good your confirmation and they almost had a DJ guy on board to make it even more of an Amy Winehouse story

1:05:11 So they almost had that all set up, so oh well these guys had low air time you know this is what the state of the industry is about. So it's either that or... The only other alternative is someone shot out of the sky and we actually are pretty lucky to have this guy landed in the Hudson and he knows it was shot out of the sky just by nuking those two engines however it was done And this was his reward for not telling everybody there wasn't a bird strike One way or another, the whole thing stinks And that's why he did the book of poems because there is this poetic justice message. Have you read his poems? They're beautiful! Anyway, there are plenty of links in the show notes of these pictures because of course this is the interwebs You can't hide that It's good that you do these kinds of stories Because it sounds just crazy enough That again takes us off the radar Because oh brother...there we go So you gotta be out there

1:06:07 I try hats. I had some I want to recommend people out there that you know the PG tips gold Yes, which is really good if you can get some of this red tea called rusebiosis from Red Bush and everybody loves That's a Roy Roy boss as the original answer yeah Anyway, just a tease substitute it was used in Africa by the British they would need a T But they couldn't find any anyway if you have like if you make a big cup of tea and then you throw one of these packs of the Redbush in with the PG tips. It makes a tea, it's like a natural...it makes a tea sweet! It's really actually good combination. Check it out. You don't get high off of it? I don't think so. Then why bother? Oh yes, oh gee. I almost forgot we have another jingle from the fabulous Jeff Smith. We have another entrance into our shadow puppet theater category John

1:07:10 Oh, okay. Well tell me all about it. Well just so you didn't know one of the people named to President Obama's new task force on tax reform is a member of the board of directors of AIG! Oh, okay. Shadow Puppet Theater! Martin Feldstein welcome to the shadow puppet theater Getting back to that story about your concerns about the targeted tax and all the rest of it. One of the things that is going on, I actually talked about this some years ago in some columns at some point what's going on in Europe where they're tracking down these bankers and keying their cars and protesting out their houses and throwing bricks through the window

1:07:51 I think that the hyper-wealthy, the people who live in for example in the San Francisco Bay Area you'd have Hillsboro. You would have Los Altos Hills maybe to a lesser extent, Atherton for sure I think there's a possibility that if you have a real economic collapse, which this isn't. That people would go in there and ransack these areas. They're all enclaves... Oh they could be totally ransacking where I live? Your area is like one of these little enclaves of rich people

1:08:27 Yeah, in fact it's a... rich people yeah by all intents and purposes rich people but by London standards middle class. Okay well they won't you know that you want to target them you want to go after the real rich area. So okay so you want to go to Chelsea and Kensington really not England? Right start throwing Molotov cocktails. It could happen! It's going to happen this is why I'm calling for restraint because It's the wrong people. It is amazing when you see this Geithner plan that is intended to screw us and everyone goes, oh chuckle along no problem hey eat the bankers it's wrong! It is just fundamentally wrong and because we're misguided and the government is out there pushing us towards it

1:09:10 Well, before we get I want to take a break here and talk about a couple donors that came in this week We're gonna talk you were gonna do the call out on the hundred and five fifty dollar people In the upcoming Thursday episode but there's we got two interesting donations this week one of them For the exact amount. I was talking about six hundred only the guy took it to an extreme This is Harry Selwood. Hey, Harry. He he said give me Harry and in the morning Harry Sellwood. He sent us $666 and 66 cents, and I think he kind of missed the point of it. Well first we appreciate the donation to the library but you know i'd almost rather you send 6,666 dollars and sixty six cents because then you have two times three sixes if you can afford it

1:10:08 Well, if you can't afford it you wouldn't sell it in the first place. But then you do $6.66 that's cool too or... Yeah thats okay Or you can just link to our show Or, you can tell someone about it. Go to Dvorak dot org slash NA and help us out and what's the other address you have? NoahGendelibrary dot com Okay now we did get a $1,000 donation from John. From who? From John Holman Wow So I sent, and Holman, I asked him about you know he's a retired investment consultant. Did you see his site? Because I went to the site that was listed and it was... It's just a picture of him Just a picture and then four email links or five each of the family members Right, it's pretty simple He used to be on Wall Street apparently and loves this show but I asked them about being a hyper donor what would he do And he sent me a notepad which is worth reading and people should listen Yeah go for it

1:11:08 So the reason to do the big donation is to get others to do the same. I certainly appreciate the offer of an in-the morning, but frankly I'm ambivalent at best about being called out by name unless it helps to get the auction mentality going amongst prospective donors Whatever gets other enthusiastic listeners to give, I think it's absolutely critical to have intelligent skeptical thinking like what you and Adam deliver so consistently, entertainingly and surprisingly. That's three! It seems like advertiser supported media is diminishing anyway

1:11:48 Yes, and then he says in a just answer some other Simple questions but I think he makes a good point very good point deliver a good product people should you know appreciate the fact that this is extremely rare because with the combination of you and myself is Unusual do you find yourself waking up and excited about the show? I'm on a show day. I'm literally buzzing My My wife listened to the show last week. Uh oh, you're in trouble now! What did she say? One thing... She just got... She went on a rampage about Michelle Bachman which is who will get you. Oh yes. Just to end this other thing I do want to thank John Holman for the thousand dollars and anyone else who wants to help us out at Dvorak dot org slash NA or TheNoAgendaLibrary dot com And if you send us $100,000 then you will get every show for a year i guess it is at least

1:12:48 Yeah. Disinformation minute and we'll read your script verbatim, you get a little jingle like Jeff Smith makes for everybody so we'll pay him for that obviously but I agree with it so much... We had this conversation earlier in the week that really commercialism in media always fucks it up at the end of the day It always breaks it and it makes it just inherently uncool Yeah, and the fact is we talk about getting donations for about two minutes out of 90 minutes which is one minute every 45. And typical radio if you listen to talk radio it's one minute per two minutes of talking so every 2 minutes there's a whole minute advertising It's ridiculous! It ruins these shows and you have to keep switching channels I mean I hate it This is reason why were asking for money So we don't have ever do advertising except that 1-minute thing which will do but people understand that this never gonna happen

1:13:43 So, by the way it would be a good CPM for anyone wanting to do it. It's great CPM but you don't get quite delivered the way its traditionally done Yeah that is a little different But anyway we are trying to see if anyone can beat John Holman And we want to go three days a week and this is where the critical point for 3 day a week We really need money to do that I would have to give up other things for sure and I know you would John Yeah, so anyway. So my wife listens to the tunes in and she hears the Michelle Bachman stuff and so she goes kind of nuts And so she did a whole bunch of research on it She by the way She said to me well I'm glad to see that you're as rude with Adam as you are with the family

1:14:33 Oh, that means... I take that as a huge compliment. I take that as a huge compliment so you are actually- I'm taking it as a complete insult because you're the one who's rude and don't get my jokes You know? What are talking about?! What do you mean i dont get your jokes!? The funny ones I laugh at them! I just dont laugh at all of them So anyway where am I rude? Am I getting this? Well, at home your apparently rude Well she says im rude on the show too Am I rude you say oh there he is. He's rude that guy well not If you're rude to me, I don't take it personally up. I don't take it personally That's for sure if your if if you're being rude to me and no problem here I don't intend to be rude anybody. I mean I find the whole the whole assertion to be dubious Maybe you know I don't know maybe she's I maybe she's hypersensitive. I never knew this about the woman

1:15:26 God, this is a great show. It's actually changing your life I find that exhilarating Yeah, I'm getting enlightened So I have not met Mimi nor have you met Patricia so But we still have a wife swap show in mind Anyway, so Michelle Bachman...I did my research as well Let me start this starts with the guy, this is what triggered I was talking to my wife and said well this guy sent us his note. And then she went... My wife loves going online and doing tons of research so she got a million links which i'll send to you. I can just see me being mm-hmm Viagra She's doing research. John! Christopher Schuh sends us this note

1:16:06 And I argued when I was talking to my wife that this guy, he's just obviously a knee-jerk who is just spewing this hatred to Michelle without any attribution. So my wife went and got the attribution but let me just read this. I was listening to your last NO Agenda show in my car driving down one of many potholed roads in Minnesota. When you talked about Michelle Bachman, I nearly drove my car off the road! It is a shill for the Republican Party and it's bat shit crazy. This woman was running practically uncontested for her representative seat last year, she decides that a good political move was to go on hardball and suggest that Barack Obama was a terrorist She nearly lost her seat to a guy named Tinkleberg

1:16:52 The woman has quite a few screws loose. I think there are better pickings for Adam to have his MILF obsessions over, otherwise good show and keep up the good work." Alright so let me respond to this So I really knew nothing about Michelle Bachmann other than this one piece of video where she's questioning the Secretary of Treasury and of the Fed Bernanke The chairman of the Fed Federal Reserve about the Geithner plan which he nailed right on the money saying hey, the taxpayer is going to be responsible for 90% of this and they don't get 90 percent of the upside. Can you confirm? And of course she was cut off by Barney Frank. And in that particular shot

1:17:36 I have to say she looks really, really good. And Milfy her hair is done differently when she has her hair down She looks kind of witchy I have to say but anyway that's regardless a little bit of that That's that's the irrespective of that so this woman I could be married to her and it's and you know, I looked at the Keith Olbom the countdown piece You know what she was doing was repeating things that we have discussed on this show But she was doing it in a way that people categorize me as a crackpot. That's why she's saying the exact same things In fact

1:18:14 I put a whole bunch of links in to, there's actually a radio interview that she did and you know she's completely on to the climate change scan. You want to hear that for second? Just where she debunks climate change? You can get an idea how she talks so just take me a second I gotta forward to like... John thank you Brian the elder! And she goes on radio shows She has a site, she calls herself a foreign correspondent. I love this woman And the things that, you know if you really listen to what she's saying it's exactly the same stuff people call me a crackpot for. Here we go listen to this about climate change.

1:18:56 Well, this will be for the purchase of energy. You're exactly right because human activity only puts about between 3 to 5% carbon dioxide into the atmosphere The bulk of carbon dioxide is produced naturally from the ocean So she's saying things that we talk about all the time She's on to the GIVE Act and says it exactly the same way But let's not forget, A. She is a woman B. She is an attractive woman she's a Republican which really the problem but I like what she stands for and if she does her hair right and pulls out that little Minnesota accent it makes me completely love her And she no more crackpot than I am she just labeled that way by clearly from your email overzealous out of control Obama bot

1:19:53 Here's the thing that bothers me about her. I'm not disagreeing with any of this except for the fact that she seems to be a stooge for the credit card companies She has gone out of he way to support all their abuses, she has done nothing to stop it every time a bill comes out including a bill just passed by the House of Representatives which does very little more than saying you can't continue to gouge at customers in fact there was an anti-gouging bill she voted against And if you start looking, if you go to Open Secrets and take a look. In fact I sent you the links that my wife came up with If you go to Open Secrets and see who's been funding her You find out that it's finance and insurance companies So in that regard she is just as evil as our president

1:20:40 Yeah, but I mean it's not something that I'm going to fall all over myself for. But at the same time I do think she is getting beat up too much and obviously she is kind of an old fashioned...I don't see how she is a shill for the Republican Party. At least she has a consistent message and on top of that a bill that would ban global currency. I've got to like the woman because she didn't get a straight, well actually she got a very straight answer from Geithner and from Bernanke when she asked them point-blank are you going to introduce or would you accept world currency? No categorically deny it then Geithner the next day is at the Council of Foreign Relations why on earth he needs to go there other than because they actually control him and does his speech says oh we're open to it yeah all options are on the table

1:21:29 So she's right. You know, and so yeah maybe look we're no one's clean No one's exactly right on the money but to call this woman a kook and a nutjob is unfair because she is saying A lot of very sensible things and I believe that she might have just woken up all of a sudden Has she been doing this forever? I don't think so. I remember seeing her just occasionally, but now that she's got the spotlight turned on...I mean Olbermann if anybody has given her the you know the spotlight and and Olbermann who is a raving lunatic He is he's a true lunatic absolutely

1:22:06 Oh, it's unbelievable. In fact I just...I mean Rachel Maddow looks like you know a conservative Republican by comparison and she must just be loving Olbermanns constant pontificating and going over the top because she is gonna end up taking over that spot and she'll throw him under the bus in a minute She is just a classic broadcasting person And uh..you know she has got her own show now She used to be part of Olbermann's show She comes on after him doesn't she? Yeah, and she's the only one. She was interesting because I remember listening to Air America occasionally...I listen to both everything. You're a radio guy! Nah you're a radio guy. Alright, I'm listening to these guys. I would listen to Air America and some of the worst stuff that was on that network it was like oh my god are you kidding me there is all touchy-feely stuff and new age crap and all kinds of bull

1:22:59 And she would come on, it was like she was just a hardcore political commentator. She was obviously hyper-liberal and an out lesbian who's out so there is no... you can't accuse her of anything. Well hold on let's give her a little lesbian out in the morning! She's a lesbian and she makes no, she has no qualms about it. And she has very strong but she is solid I mean she is a solid broadcaster. When I first heard her I said wow this is the one to just give her the whole network! She was the only one on there that worth of crap because she was good broadcaster everybody else was...

1:23:37 just amateur hour and so then she gets somehow sneaks onto olbermann show before the last elections and i saw seeing yourself and there are sorry for cuz i would have heard on the radio said well that's an interesting person And but she had the problem. I thought as a TV person she has a smirk that's really annoying I thought that She cut this work out a little bit, but she still you can't quite get rid of it because it's almost like his part of her face and so Joker Exactly so they played around with their look a little bit So she doesn't look quite so extreme And she comes off as a normal person after you listen to Olbermann who is just like he's angry, he just hates something. That's his shtick! So one more thing about Bachmann...

1:24:28 So in this, in the New York Times actually a link to it of course and our show notes. Michelle Bachman says she wants Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous for opposition to cap-and-trade I mean she's calling for arms! I love this woman I just love her I love her I love you Minnesota milf. That guy is going off the road again but what's interesting is that so the minister really caught some traction with this anti global currency bill So immediately they turn on the harp machine and they give Minnesota and the Dakotas the worst weather in the world. They're turning it up, it's HAARP, it's harp And by the way yesterday at a protest in London I have not heard thunder like that

1:23:37 just amateur hour and so then she gets somehow sneaks onto olbermann show before the last elections and i saw seeing yourself and there are sorry for cuz i would have heard on the radio said well that's an interesting person And but she had the problem. I thought as a TV person she has a smirk that's really annoying I thought that She cut this work out a little bit, but she still you can't quite get rid of it because it's almost like his part of her face and so Joker Exactly so they played around with their look a little bit So she doesn't look quite so extreme And she comes off as a normal person after you listen to Olbermann who is just like he's angry, he just hates something. That's his shtick! So one more thing about Bachmann...

1:24:28 So in this, in the New York Times actually a link to it of course and our show notes. Michelle Bachman says she wants Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous for opposition to cap-and-trade I mean she's calling for arms! I love this woman I just love her I love her I love you Minnesota milf. That guy is going off the road again but what's interesting is that so the minister really caught some traction with this anti global currency bill So immediately they turn on the harp machine and they give Minnesota and the Dakotas the worst weather in the world. They're turning it up, it's HAARP, it's harp And by the way yesterday at a protest in London I have not heard thunder like that

1:25:18 years in London. These guys turned on the harp machine and rained on their parade! That's from being assassinated, this is great stuff. Where do you think that phrase rain-on your parade comes from? From the evil Uberlords because they turn on harp they can completely control the weather I might want to remind you by the way that September 11th 2001 right off the coast of New York was a gigantic, gigantic hurricane Then right after the planes, so-called planes kind of so called flew into the buildings and they collapsed. The storm went away you can see the radar images it was the size of Katrina anyways So they control the weather and now there's messing with her They control the weather thank you very much that saves the bacon for us You like this no way that they're gonna put the bomb in the plane We got a maid Don't look over here Nothing to see here

1:26:14 Jeff Smith is awesome. Let me just run through a couple things I wasn't talking about that, but that's another story Oh, okay so the so where were we before you went on this show? Michelle Bachman and the weather and they harp h-a-r H A R P go google it anyone's ever been online has run into this bull It's right next to goat see its ghostly Alright, can I just run through a couple of Gitmo Nation stories since we're nearing the end? And by the way, I'm gonna repeat the show on the stream from the server and so people who want to listen to it before the podcast is downloadable. What's happening is this service that I'm paying for is just overloading

1:27:03 This is I mean the stream is out of control thousands of people trying to grab this screen a stream And I think that they don't have me on the right account or whatever, but it looks like Like let's call him out. What's the name of this company? That's ripping you off primcast Primcast com Papa Romeo India Mike Charlie alpha Sierra Tango prim cast that's a bummer because I pay a lot of money You know cuz you and it's a bummer um So we're doing music. I decided to do some, I'm going to do some shows on there Let me mention this so the stream which of course runs 24-7 except for now when were doing the actual highlight of the week John put together an awesome show about a hour and half i think it was Almost two hours actually 156 Holy crap! I wonder if I got the whole thing Anyway its called The Dvorak Interlude And It's in rotation now

1:28:00 It repeats I think every after so it plays and then there's three hours of regular playlist And then it goes back, so you can probably catch it and and I'll leave it in that rotation for a bit I'm hoping you're gonna come up with with another show for us John because I was actually blown away. I mean you played The who you put but he also played Ian jury in the blockheads my goodness are like whoa You've got some chops man. It was really good, and you sound almost like One of those classic rock guys on WNEW where there's no sweepers, no music and it's like hey everybody. You did do it like that I think you did a hey everybody. I gotta give ya some jingles Hey everybody! It's Dvorak here sitting in for the Big Adam Curry In the morning And I got some songs for ya' It was good. I loved it Oh? Good well we'll see what you think of the next one when I bring in some surfer music Ooh... Well you played The Contours Got alot of comments about that That was good

1:28:56 And of course, we're tracking everything so we'll pay our ASCAP BMI fees. You can only really do that legally on a web stream by the way there's no other way to do it legally and It's not a money-making proposition, I can tell you that. There is no way you can make money now... but there is no way you could make money. You gotta... it's reasonable enough. It's public service and that why we have the NOAgenda library dot com and Dvorak dot org slash NA for people who like this sort of thing and actually when we get that thing completely loaded up with material Which it'll be very entertaining and there's some good we got some presidential speeches on there running from time to time. We got some Poetry slam poetry it is getting good you also have the Mechanism where people can leave a tweet, and then it gets put on the stream That's right if anything you tweet to no agenda stream will come back And be read by a robot voice by Alex the robot voice Within like 10 or 15 minutes sometimes little sooner

1:29:57 So anyway, I'll put this show on the stream because it's-I can just see that it's skipping and it's sucking. And I'm sorry everybody...everybody. Uhh.. quick rundown of Gitmo Nation stuff? Go! US Marshal found dead in Mexican Canal Okay. Uhh.. Spy database to monitor your every move on Facebook and MySpace Nope doesn't fancy you no No no I think this is disturbing And of course the Mexican thing, war with Mexico that's going on. That's why I mentioned it yeah it's escalating and we'll have to someone mentioned to me it was an article somewhere that you know the President Obama said

1:30:45 you know, illegal guns flowing into Mexico is total horse crap because if you're in Mexico it's like these are unmarked non-serialized not that they've been rubbed off or anything they just are unserialized guns like M16s AK47s. You know guns that you cannot buy in the United States because they're coming from China or somewhere where they make ripoffs I guess knockoff guns must be a big business Next Bilderberg meeting is scheduled to be in Athens 14th through the 16th of May. That's always fun and the big news which I'm surprised you didn't bring up John, it seems we're uncovering what ACTA is all about this is the

1:31:37 I keep forgetting what the acronym stands for, but it's the intellectual property law that is being written globally and is so incredibly important to our homeland security that it must be kept a secret by our transparent government. So apparently it's all about the right and it will become kind of like a constitutional right for the government to look into your computer or iPod, or any other device. And you've got to believe that it's something that is going to be baked in at the manufacturing end and of course this sparks a huge debate whether that is legal or not. Well... Does it really? Well no unfortunately nobody gives a shit and they just... There ya go! Now you get it. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Ummm

1:32:41 More about the volunteerism. That MySpace Facebook thing is kind of interesting, you should definitely... Take a look at that. There's also a fantastic site that I found John, so they arrested some 14 year old girl for posting naked pictures yeah They arrested her under child pornography laws Yeah she is apparently a pornographer 14 years old taking her own pictures and they weren't even like pictures of sex or anything Porn now is just you know picture of a girl in a bikini Well, were they naked pictures or bikini pictures? No. They were semi-nude I guess there was a couple of tits showing or something...I don't know. Because she wanted her boyfriend to see it that's why she put them online right? Yeah, yeah right! She was actually arrested! She was actually arrested!! Yeah, arrested and they're threatening her with being a sex offender. She is a danger to society!!! When i was 13 14 I was out there showing my bits to other girls and they were showing me their bits

1:33:37 You know there's a... Well you're obviously a pervert. A pervert, I heard the news coming through on the No Agenda stream and i don't know where it was but somewhere there is a preschool that has a no touching rule Yeah, no it was a regular school. It was a regular school? No touching rule you're not allowed to touch anyone! I think it's in Jersey or something... We actually blogged... No, not in Jersey please tell me wasn't in Jersey. It was some place where the...I have to look it up but on the blog we blogged and said you can do high fives, you can give hugs, you can shake hands, you can touch and then stems back and this is typical of these this again example of this you go by the book jerk-offs that are out there everything he knows zero tolerance

1:34:20 Apparently it stems from the fact that, and I don't know how this qualifies as touching but it stems from the fact that one student apparently just took out with all his might kicked another student in the nuts. Which by the way has happened to me so many times Well, that's probably why your voice is so hot. But anyway So I laughed at one of your dumb jokes are you happy now? Yes, so because of this Somebody kicking somebody in the balls as hard as they can and make an hospitalizing him which is I wonder Now there's no touching You can't touch it can't see you can't you know Pat somebody on the back you can do what kind of maniacs or running these schools

1:35:09 It's little people who'd like to be politicians. Little, little feuders! Do you see that map I just sent you? This is just a great map to look at. This is the RSOE-EDIS. The alert map for hazards globally and it's clickable So now on the left there's a red icon Biological hazard in the United States as of March 29th 03-5156, you click on it and it shows we have a biological hazard in the state of Vermont. And then you can go to the event description and the states leading bat biologists updated...and its a red morning! Updated resins... What's this thing over by Alaska that is blinking as though there was an earthquake? Oh wait oh shit hold on a second. Yes a seismic quake tube. Oh my goodness there's a blink

1:36:01 2.7, wait there's a volcano eruption here oh that's the volcano yeah we knew that was happening okay but how about I'm looking at the red one it says epidemic in the United States on 329 right so that's Vermont no that that's the biological hazard this is the epidemic where's that? Where's the red? It's right next to it Oh its green No it's the red one you're looking at the green one The green one is the biological hazard. Oh, epidemic. Okay yeah the red one is the epidemic. This is the state of Pennsylvania So we have an epidemic event description Officials in northern Pennsylvania School District are trying to find the cause of an illness that has affected some 200 elementary school pupils officials oh man hold on a second it's probably Noro

1:36:44 And now, back to real news. Officials say one of three of the 603 students was stricken on Friday but half the sick children stayed home and the rest were sent home after falling ill in school They do not believe it was a case of food poisoning or water contamination State health officials know- What's their description? Description! What did they do? Did they throw up? It doesn't say that So what was it? Don't look over here Nothing to see here I don't know what it was. You love that one! I do, well i also like the... Shadow Puppet Theater That has to be one of my favorites as well Driving some people off their way from the show? I don't think so Okay So- I like that map That map needs to be posted on The Show Notes Yes It is in The Show Notes at noagenda dot mevo dot com And we have a new one coming We got a square space site that we've gotta configure Did you

1:37:41 Get the details, have you asked maybe Eric to do something for us? Now that we have a budget to pay someone to do something. Because that's what this library fund is for right? Yeah well we gotta do something with it. Okay ready? Yes I got a letter from a guy Towson's name he doesn't have any other name after JFK read Jefferson's notes from Dining Alone He signed an executive order that the Federal Reserve Bank should be assigned back to the people of the United States as Andrew Jackson had done before him. Kennedy was promptly assassinated." Oh, this is Nefera? How big are bonuses for banks and individuals who own our bank?

1:38:25 Our bank. Rumors are that these bonuses are approaching a trillion dollars a year, why is the list of ownership of the Federal Reserve Banks not disclosed to anyone or their bonuses? Let me try and give you an idea." And he goes on with his debts and he's got big numbers like your tax 60 trillion so... You mean my 1.2 quadrillion number you mean It's getting there Well, so he's asking about the Federal Reserve which of course is what you really should be doing is burning down the Central Bank. The central bank of United States is the federal reserve that's the one you should be burning down at the central banks in general are made out a brick okay then bazooka that thing if you have to get out his stone and that's what nobody's that's what Ron Paul congressman Ron Paul was doing with this audit the Fed bill which is I think HR 1220 or 1225

1:39:16 He's got 32 co-sponsors. You know it's But the fact that you even say it that way John the fact you even are so skeptical and of course, you know That our government has bought and paid for and then stuff like that will never get through that shows how complacent we are as a population We're just letting him do it yeah, we give them little hurdle from time to time Yeah, we might throw you know break your windows or whatever but at end of day We're just... ooooh, you broke my window. Exactly. No worries! Oh man. So I'm really sorry about the stream that's too bad and that kind of sucked Did we have any other business? Seeing as we have no agenda it's hard to remember stuff that we always say were gonna do

1:40:03 Let me see if there's anything left over from last week. I think there was something you had Well, no, I know you had the clip of the Mexican clip. I still have to save that if yeah We can say that we could've got a little bit more into the fact that during this for this week Would do we can do this next week? That the protesters would be for jobs justice and climate which makes it You know if your if you're losing your job And you're a union guy You would probably not, you associate this climate business with losing your job. Not something you'd want I mean that makes no sense so we have to talk about that with some more details So what clearly is coming next is... What's her name? The vegetarian winner Oh yeah, her She'll become a poster child, you watch

1:40:56 The vegetarian women. Yeah, I forgot her name. Fear Factor... Olga, Eureka? Yeah whatever her name is. The one who was too weak to stand. Too weak to stand! John, I could talk for hours but that would mean were almost doing three shows a week so... Global currents.. No i don't think there's really anything that were backed up on Okay We'll catch it on Thursday Yes Whatever it is It's Thursday this week right? yeah okay good Coming to you from the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East in the Crackpot Command Center, my name is Adam Curry. And from Buzzkill Bunker in the Silicon Valley North, Gitmo Nation West or The Gitmo Nation I'm John C. Dvorak and we will talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda