Hillary and the Vase

00:00 What is the point of this messaging? It's bullcrap. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday June 30th 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 838! This is no agenda Reading crappy books so you don't have to and we're broadcasting live from the capital drone star state here in FEMA region 6 on this award-winning podcast in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I am caressing the award, The trophy finally achieved. I'm John C DeVore. It's crackpotting buzzkill! In the morning... Well, I know that to be factually untrue

00:39 Because if we want the trophy I believe we have to send bunny. Yes, Bunny has to go there. We have to send money. Bunny! You wanna take a trip? Money, money... Money? I thought you meant bunny No, money man It's a... hey, screw that. Congratulations John! Well thank you and congratulations to you You're the one who produces the show so expertly I am still... they took the best producer award away I think Really? I didn't even see it on there Really? Best produced? Best produced is not available Otherwise you would win it Thank you Well mainly I want to thank our producers The actual producers of the show

01:25 which is everybody who is listening and contributes with, of course financial contributions information insider info artwork sound jingles feedback we don't call you producers for nothing people so congratulations Best News and Politics podcast. And you know what was crazy? I thought that this was going to happen next week because we had to be on Skype, and we even sent in our bios if you recall after the show... We were gonna be on Skype! Yeah so I thought it's next week all of a sudden here people are like oh congratulations so go congratulate them to see the podcast awards and then oh wait a minute Podcastgate

02:06 Some falsification in the voting process. Did you follow any of that? No, tell me! So everyone's like hey you won and I'm like how can this be this makes no sense so i check it out there is a big note all the winners are on hold because there some tool out there that bots were using we have to figure it out oh my god Fake voting going on in the podcast awards. I'm shocked at tell you and we know it's not our producers because Our guys begging them to do it for your no one ever does it for us What's the point they don't care? But III am gonna pick a star is their concern were already gold well, this is true

02:54 But anyway, and congratulations to all the other nominees. Just being nominated in that fine category was honor enough don't you agree John? Oh yeah that's right! What am I thinking... It is so interesting people are saying oh you're gonna get so... I haven't won an award for how long it has almost been 10 years maybe... I only have I have the Hall of Fame award from the... That's just lifetime achievement, Hall of Fame. It means it's time for him to die What are we going to do about this guy? He hasn't won anything and everyone knows him Hey thanks for putting The Buzzkill on my award When did you get that? Last year! Oh that was a different one. I agree You deserved that award Because it was actually a pioneer award more than it was a...

03:50 That Pioneer Awards, I think are great because the guys who started the whole thing they never get credit. Most of the time they fall off you know and at some point like recently when those guys from PBS started to say well we invented podcasting. Oh yeah of course, of course. And Ricky Gervais is the podfather and yeah we know how it works that's okay that's okay it doesn't bother me uh It really doesn't but I took title podfather away from ya Yeah that was a good one. But that award's fine so your...that's a good award I'm thinking about more when you're like 70 and they've noticed that, shit this guy's done a billion great movies and he's never won a damn thing. What are we gonna do? We gotta do something with him! Yeah exactly well what an honor fabulous thank you so much thank everybody who voted but more importantly thank y'all for doing it with us A number of emails came in people saying oh man

04:45 You're going to get so much attention. Are you insane? I got that same mail, no! I sent a note back home. It's like let me think... No. You're gonna get a lot of attention. Yeah, you are none and three homeless. Exactly. That was pretty much about it. Nobody where- In fact couple years ago when they did these awards i checked out all the nominees and who actually won these awards to see maybe, well maybe there'd be something good here. No it was all mainstream stuff pretty much Well yeah and not only that but either that or it was just... It wasn't I don't hate to say this because a lot of people podcast and except for maybe five or six of these podcasts out of thousands most of them are hard to listen to like I find them not entertaining at all. Yeah I personally believe a lot of that is because of the quality of the audio

05:43 That's something I'm very anal about and I think it's very important. There is an element of that, but if material was good, I think it would at least make up a little bit for the... Somebody I know well has started up a podcast recently. And, uh...I went to check it out and there's like three or four episodes out and it's all poorly modulated and I realized that this person had done a lot of broadcasting or done podcasting of a sort but it was all the stuff where you have ten engineers and some guy micing the person up

06:23 And but I guess this person's never Mike. So so so I tell you that podcast sounds mostly like this. But hey, I wouldn't be making too many jokes today because you sound like you put your underwear over the microphone today. But that's just a Skype anomaly unfortunately. Well, I'm not, you know, over popping my peas or no and oh as an aside please do not email me with your better VoIP solution It's just not necessary. I appreciate it but... People still do that? Oh my god, yeah all the time But they don't understand things like latency Yeah we can make it sound dynamite But it would be like this In the morning John! And in the morning to you Adam and how are you today? I'm good Outstanding That's pretty much what it would be So thats not gonna work Anyway anyway

07:24 Plenty of stuff going on today. Plenty of stuff, but I'll tell you what I did and then you can start into where you want to start. I got halfway through the Benghazi report which is very interesting there's a lot of interesting things in there that i think are important we'll discuss that later and also... Let's discuss it right off the top! Really? Well let's discuss the book I read which came in yesterday You read a book? Woo! Stop, oh hold on a second. Stop the show stop the show there's something wrong with Adam Yeah I read a book thanks i read a book i placed a pre-order on Amazon and let me see if i have this yeah here it is This is the book Crisis of Character written by Gary J Byrne former presidential secret service officer Now hold on one second

08:23 Now didn't this guy, now I gotta get you. This may be the Mandela effect. Here we go! But i have the sense that this book came out already like two years ago or was it just a different Secret Service guy but there was some secret service guy who wrote a book And it's got all these stories in there about, you know the ashtray or the vase that Hillary tossed at Bill and hit him in the head. I believe that was the preamble to the book and I don't know if it came out then or not. It was another book that came out, it had a different title. And I got the sense it was by the same guy because I saw this guy now that may be because Secret Service guys have kind of similar look. Yeah well he was in the Secret Service uniform division so we always wore uniforms but its interesting that he was from the Secret Service Uniform Division because these are the guys

09:20 that just stand next to the door all day long. And they hear everything. So this came in yesterday, I interrupted the Benghazi report because i'm sure we can do all that on Sunday as more bullcrap comes out in the mainstream about it and I'll give you the real lowdown so I read this and one day saying like I could do this and I did it for you Me for you. Yes, and everybody else I'm very disappointed Here's well interesting you bring up the viles story here is Gary Byrne on Fox? I think it was with Megyn Kelly yesterday Oh the no It wasn't Megan Kelly the vase story is a came in one morning to go to work early came in worked out And then as I headed over the post I ran into

10:08 house residence workers that were going home and they said, oh you better go over and see your buddy we had a problem last night. So I went over to the mansion post on the ground floor and I said what's going on? And heard something happened they said Mr. Mrs Clinton had this horrendous fight it was so loud that the staff people in the ground had walked away from the elevator shaft the sound was coming down and then they heard a crash And then when it was investigated, they saw a broken vase on the floor. Now this has been reported to be not true and they've reported that a lamp was thrown... well a lamp wasn't thrown, a vase was. The vase was on one side of the room and broken on the other side of the room? Right! The vase sat on a long oblong table that was in front of the living rooms

10:52 I doubt it. So yeah, it looked like had been launched and was shattered and the way in reason I know this is true Is because when I heard the story after I heard having worked at the White House And no know how the white house works? I knew if something like that happened where they're where the debris would be so I walked down to the curator's office and looked inside The curators office and there was a cardboard box with the blue blue mostly blue and some white on it They have all right now. I knew it was sure. Yeah, so this is how the book starts out and along with that Apparently, Hillary socked Bill a black eye during that same fight. So let me get this straight. This contentiously married couple who have a relationship of convenience of some sort may be crazy in love with each other early on and time passes

11:41 had a fight. Yeah, I know. Unbelievable! How can a man and woman do such a thing? And I want to say Donald Trump better stop saying that this is the book that shows Hillary's not electable because it's just not in here what this is there are couple pieces that are fun read from it what this is is a guy Saying secret service gets a bum rap we work very hard we put our lives in danger it's really a very angry home about the Secret Service and how they loved Papa Bush.

12:17 Then when the Clintons came in, it's interesting to see the attitude of the Democrats or I'd say the Clinton Democrats perhaps who were just coming in saying oh people with no pass all of a sudden at the pool with his feet in the pool and he goes excuse me you got a pass. I don't need passes our house now! Stuff like that Now this is course all his experience through the filters which he viewed but Hillary total see you next Tuesday A total biatch according to him Bill, very nice. Very cool but they were so tired of covering up all the girlfriends and did we talk about Eleanor Mondale in this because she was clearly one of Bill's girlfriends when he was messing around with Monica? No, tell all! So she died recently a couple years ago at 51 brain cancer. This is the daughter of the great Vice President Mondale

13:14 Vice presidential candidate Mondale? He was a presidential candidate actually. Presidential. Very hot. I don't think he was... Super hot! Now you know this is the problem, i can't remember and most people can't who was the vice presidential candidate for well McCain because it comes up quite a few times right uh i would say who's the vice presidential candidate off top of your head Romney but Who? Vice President was your candidate for Romney. Yeah I can't remember This is a common situation Who was it, who was it? I don't really know because of the Mandela effect I think it's Ryan, I think that's Ryan That's right Ryan, who is it okay alright But let's just move on

14:01 I'm just pointing this out that this is the way everybody's it's like to come in second place in the you know who lost the World Series in 1964. Right, you don't remember them? It's Mandela effect exactly exactly well it's not technically so what this what this book attempts to do is to place and to frame Hillary Clinton and the Clintons as a team as really people of horrible character. And the timing of this book is interesting in regards to the Benghazi report when you read in this crisis-of-character book

14:41 Burns saying, you know they only care about the optics and the political fallout from anything. Anything that's going on it was only about the politics not about the American people and in The Benghazi Report we now know that there was a three-hour meeting while people were getting killed and they were talking about the optics and the politics of it all and came up with this video lie but I digress... A couple of things just to read yeah just to read from the book. And I want to stop right now And because I'm not a fan of Hillary and I probably, I believe she's probably a grouse and has other issues. And she's probably mean to people but here's the thing that I'm going to... There is no this is my big pet peeve about all this. Should I have the jingle ready? No it's not that kind of a pet peeve. Where oh where is any

15:36 audio tape of any of her screaming or yelling, or acting like a crazy person. You know in the government people are carrying around wires your phone using like there's a number of good apps that can turn your cell phone into a beautiful recorder does a fantastic job. In fact once in awhile you see at press conferences guys have his phone held up. Yeah I use it for my Uber well there is no more Uber but I use to record stuff from the car sure Well, do you think because we have not heard it? And mind you... Saying that. In the uh in when the Clintons were in The White House Her O'Ware is I will talk about that later Hold on! When the Clintons were in The White House We didn't have iPhones I just want to point that out No but you had recorders and everything's being recorded left and right Yeah well Do you say are you saying because And we've never heard it Are we saying because we never heard it It didn't happen

16:34 I'm not saying it didn't happen. I said, I prefaced it with that probably did happen but still until the tape shows up, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. Okay maybe she cries all the time! You don't know if she's screaming at people? No no so a couple... And then when she was over here in Florida Lee having lunch or dinner with with all her staffers, the gaggling women. She was very you know everyone says she's just kind of keeps to herself she doesn't even order she just sits there on her phone looking at it I mean she does...I don't know i'd like to see some evidence of this I know they're trying to goad her into going nuts on the stage but they haven't done that well yet

17:17 I don't know. So a couple of things that are interesting in the book, one is the ongoing ever interdepartmental feud between the FBI and the Secret Service there's a lot about that we know there's interdepartmental strife but the Clintons according to Byrne use the FBI as their own personal little investigative unit and i'd forgotten about this This goes back to, what's the guy named Aldrich I believe? Aldrich. He was, I think the FBI agent who on behalf of the Clintons and this came out later in the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee that White House Office personnel security had requested FBI to conduct more than 900 illegal background checks on its political opponents do you remember that yeah i'd forgotten about it

18:07 And of course we had the White House, the travel gate. I'd forgotten about that too! Where Hillary wanted to fire everybody and bring in her cronies and so it's all just gripe gripe gripe gripe gripe. Interesting little passage in this book is is this. The first lady took a surprising liking to firearms, especially a Thompson submachine gun an original and American classic. I've never shot one of those i'd love to Al Capone's legendary Chicago typewriter well Mrs Clinton now so they had one of these dog-and-pony show days everyone comes in you know be hey this is what the Secret Service is and then of course it take everybody to the gun range

18:47 When Mrs. Clinton let loose a spray of man-stopping 45 ACP rounds into the paper, dirt and berms of her outdoor one way range I thought she'd erupt in maniacal laugh! She just smiled ear to ear." Most newcomer women shy away but not her if not for the assault weapon ban she probably would have taken the Thompson home with her Her next shots zipped right into target's crotch everyone chuckled turned away or glanced at the president I can just see, we also provided our visitors with a rifle. Rested its stock on a sandbag and sighted targets at 50 yards The visitor had just had to pull the trigger to hit the target. I was impressed with Mrs Clinton pulled the stock of the rifle onto her shoulder Now recoil could slam right into you but she knew what she was doing High caliber rounds like 7mm Remington Magnum could snap a collarbone And he goes on how she has no problem shooting whatsoever I didn't know that about her that she liked shooting guns Kinda cool

19:45 It surprised me. Yeah, so what and this is a very politically charged book and it's very disappointing the last three chapters take this unsatisfied experience the guy had with the Clintons when it sounds very on its does not sound presidential doesn't sound great it sounds like total a-holes and total power hungry a-hole And then he morphs that into, it's obvious why she didn't do anything for Benghazi. So politically charged book not worth reading done sorry I wish there was something in there no smoke and gun nothing I know disappointing I know I know well I had this sense that was going on crisis of character

20:32 Meanwhile, meanwhile back on the scene as we talk about character once again and I really don't want to do the Benghazi report today. I will just say that it's a fantastic read is much better in this crisis of character because they have all the witnesses that were shuttled off to Germany you recall? It wasn't just the four guys including the ambassador there There were 30 people, and other people got hurt too. So all those interviews although the people are not identified only by what their function was are also interviewed. Before you go there I want to finish a little thing on that thing you just did okay? Okay. I'm looking on Amazon right now there's actually about 20 of these books almost identical. Oh really makes total sense yeah the question is right yeah um and the main thing

21:24 Is the timeline and the timeline is really damning. Because on September 11th, 12th 13th 14th while she was there you know we have meeting notes internally. There was a three-hour meeting while the Benghazi people were saying send help send help there are guys on the runway for four hours in Spain not believing for help and They had this three-hour meeting and there were ten action points five of which were how do we? Explain, this is because of that silly video That was well I've got a clip that. I want you to continue this after you hear the clip because this is Charles Krauthammer And he discusses the timeline and I want to get into

22:17 this out of the way so we can hear what you say against what he just, what he's gonna say. Everybody wants to talk about her role she is in one of the roles but the real story is here The failure of the chain of command starting with the president going to Secretary Panetta and going down to the Joint Chiefs. The President had a meeting with Panetta, and the Joint Chief of Staff Commander at about 5-6 o'clock By 7 o'clock they ordered apparently Panetta said this is Eastern time ordered everything be done to help them Nothing was done until it was all over but here's the worst part

22:58 What Cummings and other Democrats will say it wouldn't have made any difference anyway That is completely irrelevant. The reason is yes in hindsight We know they wouldn't have gotten there in time, but at the time they didn't nobody knew when it was going to end Ten hours 20 hours right how can you not send help? When the ambassador was missing But it's even bigger than that. How can the military not obey a direct order from the Secretary of Defense, which he says was backed up by the President and Secretary of State Clinton? How can the military not obey that order? That should be the big investigation! Who defies

23:42 I agree with you. The other is, where was the president during those six hours? He's in the Situation Room nicely on camera during the Bin Laden raid which is essentially out of his hands the minute he launched it But yet here in a situation that is changing fluctuating requires presidential or at least secretarial instructions Nowhere to be seen. That's the scandal and that's what we don't know What difference at this point does it make exactly? Difference at this point, does it make well Okay So I have not read enough of the report to have an answer on the chain-of-command

24:28 The main thing is the cover-up of whatever happened and the lies, you know the twerp went out and did all the Sunday news shows and said it's a video to video to video. In fact this came up in the State Department briefing yesterday just to make sure it had nothing to do with the video. Can you just say what the essential facts are on the role that the video played? I think it's nothing has changed in the fact that we have acknowledged before that our initial assessment took into consideration what was happening elsewhere in the region and else by the way there they can continue to refer to Cairo, Cairo and Benghazi. I wouldn't call that in the region

25:20 Would you? No, I wouldn't. And I would also want to mention that as people listen to toners who is doing the talking here... The binder this guy's got! This thing is like at least three inches thick and it's got these huge rings. Huge! Haven't they ever heard of an iPad or something? He is constantly flipping over, constantly fiddling with it Constantly when he as he talks, she's going from page moving a page over. He moves it back to his movement it already is moving back and then he's thumbing through the tabs there's 100 of these tabs yeah and he's coming through those and he's moving it over he's moving it back in this thing is sitting off the desk if was any bigger be blocking his head And that's why I have to cut out all the pauses In his answers or most of them. I try to leave some in just for

26:07 you know, to give you the feeling that he's struggling. But it takes forever for him to flip through these tabs. We're in the region we had had protests at embassies including Cairo including Khartoum based on this video that appeared on YouTube which in the report the demonstrations in Cairo was reported as rocks and spray paint so it wasn't all that scary that was seen as blaspheme against Prophet Muhammad. And so I guess, I go back to the fact that and it's not just unique to Benghazi but in any kind of situation like this

26:52 It is hard to get all of the facts right away and to present them, uh... ...to the American people. And in a way— Oops! To present them to the American people in a way that they'll just carry on and not ask questions? We at the time did the best we could to convey the facts as we knew them at the time to the American people. Which is a lie, because they knew just hours after the attack that it was a coordinated attack so it's a lie. Just to clarify you no longer believe that the video played any role in motivating these extremists armed or... I don't think we've ever been there okay? To be honest I don't think

27:36 been able to categorically say that the video played no role? As opposed to all the lies I just told you. Yeah, it's a funny thing to say... To be honest, the rest of it is by the way... Whenever someone says, I'll be honest with you, I say okay, I'm gonna discount everything you just said then people usually go huh what I think as you go on here we should at least have one explanation, no agenda explanation for this and it's the only thing that makes sense. And when Krauthammer talks about the president being out of action for six hours it actually falls right back into what we

28:12 surmised from the get-go. Which, and we understood that there were it was 56 days before the reelection of the president they were worried Romney was doing pretty well they would... According to the bogus polls! According to the bogus polls and this is not of course in this report but what we heard and understood is they wanted to do a kind October surprise, the idea was to have a kidnapping and then the president would show his dedication and his leadership. And we would spring the ambassador free from this hostage situation which was set up with guys from Tunisia but instead some other dude showed up everything went awry. Well what happened as I recall

29:04 What would happen was there was a concurrent CIA operation going on next door where the other side didn't know about. They were selling guns, they were doing a gun deal while this was going on at the same time they did not communicate this to each other and so this thing got all fouled up and you ended up with the dead, four dead and a dead ambassador which is really pretty rare. And Hillary storming around during... She gets very angry about this and she felt that somehow because she would be part of it that they screwed it up so she was very weird. Beside herself!

29:44 And this is the, it actually explains almost everything including the stand down orders. Yes. Because stand down, we got it, we have an operation underway. Yeah they thought that everything was rolling the way it was supposed to. This was a known fact within Hillary's world for sure and I'm sure the president knew too! He must've known. Yeah, yeah. He had to and so this thing went sideways and now you have that and somebody in the Republican side of the aisle knows this and that's why they keep bringing it back. They have investigation after investigation trying to get somebody to crack or those guys that disappeared ones that were rousted immediately shipped out of the country which I

30:30 I'm sure was addressed in there. Anyway, you can continue. We have new listeners. We have the nun and the homeless that are now listening because we got nominated and won an award so i wanted to make sure they knew what... Hey Nun! Hey Nun? In the morning to ya' Nun. Uh yeah And but we got this from pretty reliable sources as reliable as they can be but it does fit into everything and makes a lot of sense They were running scared at time when doing show I remember the vibe. To categorically say that video played no role But what I think we have been able to say is that this wasn't a demonstration gone awry. This was a coordinated attack. So you don't believe the video was the motivating factor for this – for this attack? I'm not getting into attacks and demonstrations, but I'm talking about the video. Right, right. Exactly. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Sorry. You don't believe that? Yes. We've said that before. I can't say that it was not any – played no role, but I just can't

31:25 I'm sorry to be, i just don't want to say Katamari no role. It did play a role the role it played was in the play yes yeah i was just going to say that's a role a role it was it was part of the whole bullcrap scenario and that is a role then he can't deny it Yes what is interesting but what is interesting here is There's something else that just happened yesterday, which I don't think has gotten a lot of news play. But the questions were certainly being asked in the State Department this time. Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau has to answer the question and this is may what it come down to is the illegal guns. And man there's a lot going on with this administration and gun running and giving guns to people whether it's Mexicans which we'll get too later

32:11 You know smuggling them over the border illegally to try and entrap people or whether it's selling them out of out of the CIA annexed to To the Libyans this just happened in Jordan, and Here's the exchange. And wow they're freaking out now There was a joint Al Jazeera New York Times report rather I should say New York Times al-jazeerah report alleging that some members of the Jordanian intelligence structure may have taken weapons intended for rebels fighting against the Assad regime and sold those weapons on the black market. What is this building's reaction? What conversations has it had with the Jordanian government? We all know that weapons turn up on the black market all the time, but given the complexity of the situation in Syria it does raise some alarm bells. Okay so thanks for the question

33:05 We have no comment on that report. There is an ongoing investigation Investigation investigation, yeah do we need the hot Russian chick here she comes remains committed to Jordan security and stability And we're proud to stand side by side with Jordan in the global counter-ISIL coalition. But on that particular report, there's an ongoing investigation and I just can't speak to it, Roz. The CIA does not comment either on its covert transfers of weapons and yet it is a U.S. government policy who else should we ask about this? This is a very good question! I like the hot Russian chick whose name we can't remember she saying... No no no, We can remember it, we just can't pronounce it Okay

33:49 This seems to be policy of the US. And we know it's policy, Iran-Contra this is policy and it usually doesn't work out well so was policy with Iran-Contra didn't really... It was fast and furious I mean Holder a lot of people feel they had to quit and run kind of get out of town Did you know that one of the guns used in the Paris terrorist attack Was one of the guns from Phoenix from Fast & Furious from the gun running? No. Yes! Yeah, that's a long way to go for a gun judicial law guns having the time of his life They had a report of investigation if they had a see the case against the Bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms They tracked the gun and one of the guns using the Paris attack Was tracked back to one of the gun running operations in Phoenix who were sanctioned to sell guns illegally Good work good work

34:39 Okay, we continue. It's a policy. It is not it's not the only red flag out there. For example, last September the Pentagon acknowledged that the Syrian rebels that it trained gave at least a quarter of their weapons cache to al-Nusra. How many red flags do there have to be for the U.S. to stop arming rebels?

35:16 So we're gonna leave it where I left it. Matt, you had a question? Yeah who's doing the investigation It's actually an interagency investigation but the State Department is contributing And she's really such a valley girl She talks a little bit like up talking and she doesn't fuck or fry So what are the other agencies involved? Yeah I can't speak to all the different agencies But its multiple US agencies were contributing information Well hold on just one thing The White House was just asked about this in their briefing right I believe they were. Yeah, you know what they did? They refused to comment on it No no they referred the questions to the State Department and to the FBI So it's not even coordinated John! They're coming in a complete disarray That's one thing we've learned over these last seven years These guys don't talk to each other that's why the Benghazi thing went south Exactly

36:07 So in on this I'm saying there's an ongoing investigation. You won't even say who is doing the investigation? It's my understanding it's interagency, it's multiple government agencies. I don't have a rundown of who exactly if I have anything more we'll come back to you on that. I am going to hold my breath. How long should I hold it? Probably not until the end of the briefing. Okay so shut up slave! We're not gonna tell you anything nothing at all now Here's what I think should happen because this is the woman who showed up early on in the Begazi fracas and that is the mother of Sean Smith, Patricia Smith who was at the coffin, the casket ceremony at the airport with Hillary Clinton. And we know this is 10 days after everything happened and she leans over and says don't worry it's just video were going to get to the bottom of

36:57 and this woman is dynamite, I think she is the smoking gun but she's a loose cannon and someone needs to rein her in. If I were Donald Trump and was going after Clinton with this, this woman needs to be bring her in put on Xanax give her the script and she'll be great because otherwise she's not that great So you personally spoke with Hillary Clinton She said she would get back to you and never did That correct? I spoke to her at the coffin ceremony And she told me which she told me, within about five feet of my son's coffin. And she lied to me then." And she said we will get you answers and then you have never heard back from her or her team? No no actually she told me that it was the fault of the video and I said what video

37:47 I didn't know anything about a video. And she says it was the video that caused all this and if it's any different, she will get back to me. I have not heard from her other than to hear...I called back over there to the State Department and asked what is happening? and they tell me, we cannot tell you are not a member of the immediate family. And to this day people of America this is still what your country does to you she still has not spoken to me or anybody in her group telling me what happened

38:24 I'd like to see her in stripes. I think somebody out of this... Yes, if i talk to Johnny and I talked to Tom Ford he agrees she looked dynamite in stripes. Did they tell? I guess what... What?! They're vertical. Thinning. Exactly! I guess what she told the committee..I haven't seen the report but I guess what she told a committee is all her words and nobody's questioning anything This is crazy. It was her department, her area and when she talked to me she said that she didn't know anything about it! Now tell me if it's her department why didn't she take care of the situation? Patricia we are going to keep in touch I thank you in the meantime. Please do something make her admit what she did

39:17 Please do something. Don't just talk don't just listen to her question it make makers say something Have her call me I'm still waiting Hillary, I'm waiting for what you promised me all I heard was you getting on TV Calling me a liar That's not true Hillary. I am NOT the liar You are the liar? Yeah There's nothing like a troubled mom, but they really got to do something with it if they want to make it useful. You know back to the guns in Was that Lebanon or a Georgia Jordan since the administration is so notorious for having you know slipping guns to whoever? You know the fast and furious was a gun running operation And we discussed this another four newcomers the muzzle would give you some background

40:10 We discussed this on the show, there was a guy that was a Sinaloa cartel guy arrested and he had showed up in Chicago. There was a deposition and a request from his lawyer to get some information from the government in Washington D.C., and he outlined the entire scheme in his... Testimony? Deposition. This is the lawyer's request for For documents he was looking for is doing discovery and then he made this I think the commentary came out then. I could have been in a deposition from the criminal himself that thing was at the US government's working with us in a low car to make them the one and only

40:53 gang in charge of all the drugs because that way they're easier to control by us and so it was a scheme another one of our Massive schemes were doing constantly, and we're good at it usually but this was not good This is not seen any evidence. It would this group is good at anything no but So that that was it was and this was uh? This was documented its available I think we even had links to it in one of the newsletters And you can read it yourself, and it was getting everybody always like me sorry What did you do? I just spilled coffee all over my... Hold on. Oh, jeez! You want to stop tape? No, no keep going keep going just okay so anyway So they had this came out and this also has something to do with Guzman getting you know escaping prison every so often as part of it and it was a very elaborate thing and made a lot of sense. I'm now thinking that these guys supposedly selling these guns that were

41:50 targeting, the guns were supposed to go to some rebel group in Syria and these Jordanians got a hold of them and now they're selling them. I'm thinking that was intentional! Oh hello? That's why hot Russian chicks says it's policy yes it's policy its all intentional And here is what... Here's the way I would write it Hey, we got a bunch of disgruntled guys here that are working in intelligence and doing counterintelligence. And they keep asking for a raise. Is there any way I had this great idea to get us some guns? Let them put them out on the open market and just collect some money or give them like five grand apiece so they don't satisfy their needs because we can't afford giving him a raise unless you want to give us more money."

42:37 Oh yeah, okay. No problem. Yeah we'll get a whole shipment going out which is... We're just re-sending it over to you guys. Silly. Well I think a lot of this stems from and we may touch on this later but a lot of it stemmed from the fact that we do not have the congressional approval for war. And so that's why it's no boots on the ground. Well, I meant like you know really like a 10 thousand military boots not just boots on the ground. Well you know we're not really doing anything with just leading and training because its completely unconstitutional what is taking place.

43:17 I have to look, might have a clip. It's either Obama or it was Hillary Clinton who were saying we need to go to Congress and we need get them to buy in you know really gotta get sign off on it because they...in order to really launch the war you can't just keep using the old authorization of use of military force so to circumvent that... Has nothing to do with any things are doing No but to circumvent that We give it to friendly rebels and we train them, we say there shoot there. And that usually doesn't end well! There's one clip that I took from the Toner press conference

44:08 And I want to play because i didn't realize i listen the whole thing it was i couldn't get any clips and heard that when you played in a wasn't that thrilled. I can run on too long but but i did notice something the third time he said it, and he may have said along his after this i just gave up on him But the third time he said, I said wait a minute. You don't keep repeating yourself over and over and over about something unless it's in your craw and it has something to do with something that could be misinterpreted or you know there is some reason for this. And this is let see what clip this is? This is the Department of State Benghazi uniforms. This is the third time he brought this up and then I'm going to explain in more detail what the problem was

44:55 You know, I don't want to speak for the Department of Defense and what are its equities. All I'm trying to say is – and there was this not even veiled allegation at the press conference this morning that somehow they were kept on hold because of the uniform issue it's just incorrect. That's what I'm addressing. Yes, yes that was in the report that the guys on the runway We're waiting to take off and the report states They change their in out of the uniform four times not quite sure what that means, but that's what I read in the report Well they were if you remember we had another event

45:33 Now, probably some months back where a guy testified that he or they had this guy. They're wearing local uniforms from some brigade that was some kick ass Kurd Brigade and the they were wearing these Kurd uniforms are guys were wearing Kurd uniforms and then it got Erdogan all bent out of shape. Yeah, but the YPG uniform? Yes. Yeah. Remember that? Of course. So there's something going on with the uniforms and I didn't need when toner first heard when he first brought up and i didn't pay attention to his first commentary it was took me the third time to pick it up. He says that there was a question asked in the earlier part of an earlier press conference, and some reporter accused them of stalling and dicking around while they were changing uniforms

46:24 And every time Toner talked about it, and this was the third time you just heard. He got more elaborate in what he said if you parsed it. He said I can assure you and is bogus and there's no truth to it that there was no uniform issue that caused a delay Well, thank you. You just proved our point which just said to me that they were changing uniforms but it wasn't causing a delay because they were probably doing it in flight It was the stand up No according to the report it was on the tarmac there in the plane changing uniforms In the plane Yeah so its not causing a delay So he's all bent out of shape about this This guy is going to be a real problem for the State Department Because what he has done For one thing He brings it to the fore

47:14 because it got my attention after he kept going on about it. It brings us to the four and then because what he's picky about not the changing of the uniforms but that it caused a delay. So so, he's taking a look and he's parsing... He's parsing a scenario and missing the main point of it because of some inaccuracy in the interpretation This guy is no good! You can't do that! He's a tab turner That's all he's good at Tab turning The minute he has to improvise smoke comes out of his ears And so he was very, and I want to emphasize there was no delay. It was just terrible the way he handled it and yeah, apparently what we're doing over there is by international law extremely illegal you can't be wearing the enemy's suit or whatever you were doing

48:11 looking like I did. I did get some feedback on that from some of our, uh, our producers are military producers And what they said is, although doubtful this happens on the battlefield is often when when they meet a group or you know from a different country. They will swap patches and they'll put someone else's patch on and then they'll give their patch in those guys will put but that's more like at base hanging around it's kind of like swapping shirts at the end of a soccer game. Like challenge coins? Yes! It's like a challenge exactly. It's a challenge coin precisely precisely Yeah, but that doesn't sound like what's going on. No I know but that is you know just giving you what could come back

48:54 Yeah, that would be the... That's what Toner was you know. Yeah yeah that could come out as as what they were doing when it appears doesn't look like that to me now and so is all part of this illegal war I mean we can do you know we do all kinds of illegal stuff in it I think like passing the guns at the Jordanians you know wink-wink nudge-nudge wouldn't really not be tolerated in an actual war no But again, Sunday I'll have read the whole report. We'll have it marked up and we will have the no agenda take on it which always includes something that the mainstream is missing or obfuscating This book? I guarantee you not a single person who's going to interview this guy has read the book It sounds like a boring book Sure but I still guarantee you no one read it That's what WE do

49:45 We do that stuff. So I will read and it's not 800 pages, 799 of the big house to long telling me TLDR now there was lots of other exciting stuff mainly CIA director Brennan was at the Council on Foreign Relations OK stop right there because I want to put this in Brennan was not at the Council of Foreign Relations. He was everywhere and one of the places he was, was the Council for relations. He was on CBS. He was on 60 minutes or 16 minutes a couple weeks ago. He was on CBS. He was on Judy interviewed him on news hour. He was out on it was on a road. Judy what interviewed him with the Q&A at CFR as well?

50:31 Well, she was also sitting at a desk with him in some little office. This was out of control Brennan he was everywhere and I just kept seeing him every time looking for clips and i'm going to one thing or another there's Brennan again! And his head is back and he's looking down his nose at Judy when she when he's sitting across from her...and something going on There's something going on. Maybe it's a message to Trump, hey we're here if you want to chat? I mean i just kept...I saw way too much of him he's the head of the CIA doesn't he have anything else to do well? Well I'd like to play a few clips from his CFR speech because I thought he was saying some very interesting things now of course you know he spoke about ISIS and blah blah we'll get to that but um he had a couple of interesting topics

51:27 things we should be very afraid of in America. So what else is there besides terrorism, global instability, cyber security and nuclear proliferation? Well I don't know anything else besides we're all gonna die! Stop for a second This I, if anyone's listened to the show for more than 100 episodes they've know. I bring this up, I don't bring it up all the time but I bring it up once in a while and its cadence, the way people speak and you can tell what office they're working in who else is speaking because then pick of mill you characteristics of the milieu. In the milieu, like for example with all the torps that were and there's many of them that work inside the White House they all have the same exact cadence and it's pretty much epitomized by Susan Rice I brought this up before with other guys and i think they're either in the agency or

52:20 Or they're working out of some milieu that makes them sound like Meet the Beaver. The beaver kid talks with this funny cadence And it's kind of a fast talking, but... You mean Leave It To Beaver? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. Leave It to Beaver. I forgot the exact name but leave it to beaver has this main character little kid has this funny way of talking and he really is a lousy actor so where do you have to conclude it But there's a bunch of people working in the agency and elsewhere that talk like this and Brennan is the worst example at the moment

52:59 And you'll hear anyone who remembers that old show, they will hear this. The beaver in his voice Well let's listen to a little bit of the beaver then I think we can probably find something to play for a moment Here we go Is this working? Oh Is that it It's almost it, but it is close. And this really bad acting because of the style... Oh well they're bad acting let's just keep it at that. Brennan the Bad Actor But listen to Brennan cadence and you'll hear this cadence in other milieus but I think most of them come from the CIA so there's a bunch of people in the CIA that talk like this

53:49 So what else is there besides terrorism, global instability, cyber security and nuclear proliferation that worries the CIA director and keeps CIA officers busy around the clock? Notice notice the spacing. Yeah. And it's like The Beaver does the same thing as this funny spacing in fact that clip you play with The Beaver had this pregnant pause between something within the same kind of a staccato choppy cadence yeah Well, as a liberal arts guy from the baby boomer generation, the rapid pace of technological change during my lifetime has been simply dizzying. Moreover, as we have seen with just about every scientific leap forward new technologies often carry substantial risks to the same degree that they hold tremendous promise

54:37 Nowhere are their stakes higher for our national security than in the field of biotechnology. Recent advances in genome editing that offer great potential for breakthroughs in public health are also cause for concern because the same methods could be used to create genetically engineered biological warfare agents and though the overwhelming majority of nation states have tended to be rational enough to refrain from unleashing a menace with such unpredictable consequences a subnational terrorist entity such as ISIL would have few compunctions in wielding such weapon. Oh, ISIL got the genetically modified mosquitoes maybe? The scope of the bio threat as well potential measures to mitigate it were laid out very clearly last October in the bipartisan report for the Blue Ribbon Study Panel on Biodefense chaired by former Senator Joe Lieberman and former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge

55:32 As with the cyber threat, the international community's response to this issue lags behind the technology driving it. Effectively countering this danger requires the development of national and international strategies along with a consensus on the laws standards and authorities that will be needed. Hmm... Okay! So bio, biogenetically modified very dangerous. Now he's going to talk about another danger this is all about dangers. All the stuff we're working on apparently you have no idea giving away the store here because you know oh yeah Isis is working on genetically modified organisms so they can kill us all now well it's it will themselves up what is that this is a long

56:19 There's a much greater risk to entire nation states, John. But first Brennan is going to crack a little joke. As former Defense Secretary and CIA Director Bob Gates is fond of saying when intelligence officers smell flowers they look around for a coffin that remains a pretty good depiction of our intelligence mindset I smell flowers must be a dead person nearby This another little thing I've noted Brennan and there's a few other guys when they talk about the CIA, they say CI. Yeah, because he is director of central intelligence he doesn't have to say agency Right right but nobody else does that I'm gonna start doing it well That'll make everyone suspicious now if I give you three guesses what is the biggest way to look at large danger? To any nation cyber

57:09 No, that's well. Yeah I'm sure but he already hand we already heard what he talked about so it's not cyber It's not Isis. What is the most dangerous thing? Lack of compassion One example, again taking a page from the biotech and life sciences sectors is how a wide range of breakthroughs that potentially could extend life expectancy such as new methods of fighting cancer and a greater understanding of the aging process could reinforce the trend toward older populations in advanced nations. Some of the world's leading economies and even the lesser economies could face even stronger headwinds from having significantly larger proportions of retired people and older people relative to working age citizens. Old people are gonna kill us! Yes, old people! Old? Kill the aged! Get rid of them we can't have you out living your useful life

58:04 Eliminate them! What is he saying? He's saying because of technological advances in science and medicine, people will become very old and they'll drag everything down. Holy crap! You know what he's saying is like offensive ages ago. Hello old person but now ladies and gentlemen this has to be my favorite clip because it justifies Justifies. I'll just say it justifies Are you familiar with SAI, Mr. Dvorak? Uh... Sad Apple Interface Another example is the array of technologies often referred to collectively as geoengineering that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection or SAI

58:59 A method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do. An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels This process is also relatively inexpensive. Here what he said, very important He said it would give us time to transition away from fossil fuels So this is happening Does he know anything about who's really behind a lot of the up you know who's running the country besides the CIA? I don't think he cares No I think he doesn't care Well he's not going to be there for long with this attitude

59:51 So as we transition away from fossil fuels, which is the president's words. This will give us ample time to do so by spraying aluminum and barium and all kinds of crap in the stratosphere What could possibly go wrong? And John it's cheap! This process is also relatively inexpensive The National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about 10 billion dollars yearly Well what are we waiting for?! What are we waiting for? Get it going already. Oh, that's right you're already doing it yeah As promising as it may be moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community Government! His government baby government On the technical side greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects such as ocean acidification because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere

1:00:50 And we know from 1978 was then Cohen, I think was Secretary of Defense. He said we need to get on this ship other countries are doing weather modification that is not good if we're not all in and on board and of course it's happening. You know i'm fascinated by the fact that he'd go into this in the first place obviously has a scientific background No! He said his liberal arts

1:01:29 Oh wait a minute, let me look. He's got a BA in political science which by the way of all the... no offense to everyone out there who has gotten a BA in political science but It's weak. It's like a BA in sociology, not much going on there. He received a BA in political science from Fordham in 1977 his studies included a junior year abroad learning Arabic well good for him and taking Middle Eastern... Yes he speaks Arabic fluently multiple dialects multiple dialects. Well he should be in the field! Could trigger sharp opposition What? Wait he also received a master's degree in government and

1:02:08 concentration in Middle East studies. So he's a middle east expert, he is not a climate expert Doesn't matter, he is just telling what going on this is happening He wouldn't be talking about it if wasn't already happening This is not just pie-in the sky others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives.

1:02:47 Well, I think it's chemtrails baby. It was all that is going to happen because as I've been saying for years and here we go. Yeah yeah yeah. You've been saying chemtrails is part of population control? Who says its not? I say its not! Oh okay. There's too much a mixing effect you can't... unless everything can be taken in parts per trillion this can have no effect on anyone And you have some reason to believe any government gives two craps about their population I'm sorry, I'm a little too cynical. They want to control the population! Well that's why you spray stuff that controls them like bugs! Final one here she is with Judy during the Q&A just a little joke i thought was kind of cute that he was saying this and what is your what's the level of communication between your agency and Iran? I don't communicate with Iran

1:03:38 There's zero I do not personally have any interaction. Not personally, okay? I do not have any interaction and here the elites ha we all know CI the CI How how now you're great your everywhere you kill people in the middle of night Any formal liaison relationship or engagement with with Iran does the agency that agency does not okay I can't understand what they're talking about with what, with who? Okay. She says do you have any formal contact with Iran and he's saying nope nope i do not have formal con... He's making a joke! He's trying to be coy about how the fact that we're spying on everybody. I don't understand when she says Iran it sounded like she said Ron The agency does not

1:04:26 No formal intelligence leads on relationship with the Iranians. Maybe somebody out here can phrase it better, and phrase it... President Assad I've- But we know the Iranians very well. Just saying. Just saying! Dick just saying. Total dick. Just on Iran for a moment if I didn't play the clip last week I think you know Boeing sold a whole bunch of planes to Iran Yes, that's part of the deal. And this is confusing to people how is it that we're giving for the first time apparently in history? We are allowing sales to a nation state that sponsors terrorism I think as the term number. In fact over this since the last show there has been a number of discussions about Iran and they always say the largest

1:05:22 They make a point of this. Oh, it's the largest? The largest! The number one in sponsoring terrorism Well, here's John Kerry and of course I had to clip out all the silences and pregnant pauses explaining how this works. These are a terrorist organization in another country that is being supported by Iran so you're absolutely we're going to call them on it We're gonna absolutely stay focused on that. We're gonna shame you! We're gonna call you out! Shame, shame, shame, shame But at the same time we're trying to move the process thoughtfully and doing business is one of the best ways to create interests, a vested purpose if you will in furthering transformation. Now it's complex folks... Hey! It's complex this is for the elites to do folks Folks You don't under- just because you don't understand doesn't mean we're not doing the right thing folks. Purpose if you will in furthering

1:06:27 transformation. It's complex, folks! Not every... I mean... Hold on for a second You know there is so much Obama does this too but it is part of the milieu again with his folks adding folks I think from now on everyone out there and you and myself, we should all stop. When you hear the word folks he's actually saying idiots. This is kind of like Mr Robot where every time he sees this E-corps he misses the evil corporation it just sees it everywhere evil corporation so from now on when you hear folks just think to dummy idiot dummy stupid

1:07:07 Idiots. Cannon fodder, grass eater... So we're doing this folks and when Obama says well the folks out there were the idiots out there is what he's saying! Yeah I think you're right it's obvious transformation now it's complex and I love the transformation transformation uh transformation now it's complex folks not every I mean issues in foreign policy don't always, if they lend themselves to the you know just right and wrong black and white simple line you draw it. You're often wrong

1:07:44 The distinction between the planes and the other things is I think trying to draw a line that threads a needle. It's a very difficult needle to thread, but very important in order to have a transformation that doesn't send you down the road to a needless confrontation or to misunderstanding or to lost opportunity. You're telling me you're going to fit that head through the eye of the needle? I don't think so. Thread the needle! People really buy this I guess they do. I guess they do that's like I don't know what to say about that

1:08:21 Bread the needle. He said nothing by the way, that was just a... I'll give you minus one for that clip there's nothing he didn't say shit. No it was only about if the only okay you give me a minus 1 but it was the thing that was interesting was he said its complicated folks that was the whole reason for the clip well that was worth the trip I'd say well yeah I'll reverse and give you plus-one on the minus once so your back to neutral ok then I'll continue but I will remind you and people listening this show that you promised I don't know, about a year ago that you would never put because of one incident that we had on the show. Yeah well i'm lying because i'm gonna do another one for you there you go yeah i'm sorry i'm going to do another one from the same speech it's short but then i have a counter clip to that it's a package so what was really interesting in light of the Ataturk airport attack

1:09:15 which we should probably talk about after the break, is that it was categorized by many in the administration as desperation you see. Because we're hammering, we're slamming, we're obliterating, we're decimating ISIL so they are so desperate they are blowing stuff up! It has been more than one year since Daesh has actually launched a full-scale military offensive And that's because our coalition is moving forward relentlessly on every front. Now, yes you can bomb an airport You can blow yourself up Yeah That's the tragedy Yeah Dash and others like it know that we have to get it right 24-7 365 They have to get it right for 10 minutes or one hour Oh So it's a very different scale Mmm And if you're desperate and if you know you're losing Desperate! You're losing If you want to give up your life

1:10:13 then obviously you can do some harm. Yeah, obviously. And let me be blunt Blunt please! Taking out Daesh is only one part of this struggle We have to as a nation and particularly a Congress and an executive come together to engage in a far more comprehensive effort against the forces that make terrorism a global, not just the regional threat. And this is... and I want to play counter to that. Well, I'll play the counter first and then I'll tell you what I think about what he just said because he said right there we need to work with Congress. What he's calling for is for an extended or new authorization for use of military force or God forbid, we could actually have Congress say okay go to war with ISIS, ISIL, IS- whatever you want it to be It's because according to John Kerry they're desperate and they're on the run

1:11:04 Let's go to Mike McCall who is on the oversight committee for Homeland Security. I'd like to know if you feel like the Secretary of State that ISIS is desperate and they're losing, that's why they're doing things like this? You know, they've said they are on the run for many years and... Yeah They are not Brian! That's a fact of the matter. I think the air strikes have ramped up external operations which is what you see now both in Turkey and you saw them in Europe You're seeing them in the United States. This is an unprecedented pace of terror in modern times. So to say they're on the run is absolutely defies reality I was just in Cairo, Egypt and up in the Sinai province buying some rugs ISIS is very heavy Tunisia Libya They are expanding beyond the caliphate now into northern Africa so they are not on the run there on the rise. Well gee that doesn't quite corroborates

1:12:04 And this is, I believe... Now remember Turkey is a NATO member. Article 5! And this is a ramp up. We hear Kerry saying, we need Congress to help us out! We have no claim for the airport at the Ataturk Airport attack...we have no claim from ISIS but it has all the hauls of ISIS All the hallmarks of ISIS Gee this is what ISIS does, all the hallmarks of ISIS No Turkey Is funding ISIS Turkey sends weapons to ISIS This was obviously PKK, which everyone goes oh no it wasn't PKK they only attack military targets. Bullcrap! But whether there was a false flag or not I don't care but the result is we're going to see maybe this week even depending on what else pops up in the news we're going to see United Nations NATO initiative saying hey wait a minute we have ISIS now attacking one of our nation and another one

1:13:05 Another one of our member states, we have to invoke Article 5 and we have to get some new stuff going in Congress. I'm not completely a subscriber this thesis. Okay? I don't see any reason why it can be ISIS because I know that the Turks have stopped disallowed a lot of the stuff they used to do for ISIS and now they're apparently, especially in recent bombing coordinated by both the Americans and the Turks may have put ISIS in a conflict situation with Turkey. So I'm not completely convinced that this is a PKK thing. I know that they did go out of their way...I mean the Americans in analysis went out of their way to say it's Isis-Isis-Isis but

1:13:52 The problem, of course is that neither PKK or ISIS have actually come out and said anything. At least not that I know of... Which would say maybe it was... Look we know if its ISIS Rita Katz would have the info boom like hey! We have a video we found something on a... You know they take awhile to produce these things they're very slow No but usually its like we found a link on a jihadist website and they don't even provide the link just here's the text so I'm very, very skeptical. Well let's play a couple of the clips that i have collected on this airport thing since you went over to the airport somehow. I don't know how you even transitioned there? I transitioned from Cary into Turkey! I'm good! Yeah... You're great folks. Thanks

1:14:36 Let's start with the backgrounder. I'm sorry, the backgrounder that is... Yes, a backgrounder and a concern here in the US You think it's absolutely time to do something? They've achieved success they've achieved what they wanted max number of casualties world detention and an economic impact on airports, and that's their goal. There have been nearly 60 airport attacks in just the past year most in Europe Africa and Asia not one in North America but some security experts do worry about US airports. Now of course, they make the point that there's never been an attack in an American airport and they make it... They make a point kind of in the face of an attack on an American airport. If you remember from two or three years ago when Los Angeles Airport was attacked by a bunch of maniacs? One guy! Not a bunch of maniacs but one guy

1:15:31 Oh yeah, it was one guy. But only one guy attacked the Orlando thing and that was considered a horrible event that I got a clip about that later that's very funny but if we're gonna go with the thesis that no airport has ever been attacked under any circumstances which is what they kind of said there why are we worried about any of this? And even though one guy was pretty much taken care by their local guys, the security guys And we don't even know if that wasn't just a complete exercise, which every indication was that it was an exercise. So what's the... Why has everybody all been... Why is everyone all going crazy? Because when you have a scared population known as folks you can control them easily!

1:16:18 Peter King came on one of the shows it with Megan I think and he introduced this character, this guy Flynn who's a lieutenant general retired. Apparently he ran the DEA for awhile...I don't remember him. He came in, he has got to book out. How do we win this whole thing? And of course his main thesis is that all we have to do is discredit ISIS. Discredit them! Shame them That's all we have. Exactly, shame them! We should call them racist and xenophobes that'll work Let's listen I think i have the clip of Peter King prelude yeah got it

1:16:56 Wow. Also license plate readers, all of that, all the technology and moving out the perimeter if we have to but again Megan if someone arrives at the airport and they have explosives or they have a AR-15 or AK47 odds are they're going to succeed If they go to a subway station or shopping center They're gonna succeed The only way that we've real hope in stopping them is stop it before it starts and that requires surveillance. And I know the Obama people call it snooping and spying, but in reality that's what we have to do." There is not support for that or for Senator John McCain's push to expand the capabilities of the feds to look at people suspected peoples Facebook accounts and Twitter accounts are things that wouldn't necessarily be made public.

1:17:45 She's saying that, oh you know they could just look at Facebook accounts. They won't even do that! They do that? Are you kidding me?! Is she making the claim and Peter Kings are two of them... They're making a claim that there is all this stuff going on on Facebook and Twitter because Obama is so much against all this since when? So much against all these things they don't even do simple things that wouldn't hurt anybody Well What is the point in this messaging it's bull crap Yeah I agree. Let's listen to the intro to Flynn Made public

1:18:22 Yeah, and again we are in time of war. And for instance I believe that if that had been done with the shooter in Orlando we could have found out a lot more about him beforehand right now We're still treating 15 years later too many of these cases as ordinary law enforcement cases I know you general Flynn coming on he's a real advocate for being aggressive and going forward ah General Flynn Yes, I know who is he is deemed by our guys as a really good guy a good guy Flynn I'm just saying our guys, our military guys. Specifically, Agent Orange says Flynn's a good guy. Years later too many of these cases are ordinary law enforcement cases I know you have General Flynn coming on he is a real advocate for being aggressive and going forward in this we have to this is not like going after a burglar or even going after bank robber or murderer We're talking about an army that wants to kill us And has troops right here in our country and they are being investigated by the FBI but again...we can't treat it as law enforcement we need to be preemptive and go out stop them and get them

1:19:21 Congressman Peter King, thank you sir. We got to stop him! Okay well since everyone's all high on Flynn who seems like a guy out of his job if he asked me with a book out I want to play a couple of clips. He's going to talk about ISIS here This is Flynn and his fantastic analysis, and he's the one on this show I'm not saying it's not a great guy But he's not showing well He the one who says we just discredit Isis that we got it made with this all we need to do but let's listen To this this is kind of a ask Adam sketch Okay So I got Isis part 1 is the Isis Flynn something like them how's it lab the Isis in the counter-attack won?

1:20:00 Yes, I want you to play this. That internationally we have not really stated what our real strategy is as America... But wait let me ask you about that because the Obama administration has made progress in Iraq We've taken back cities they no longer control Fallujah They're on their heels now Mosul's basically what they have So here so here's how people have to look at this We have a very, very tactical strategy. Meaning it's very narrow and short term And we go after these little attacks in Iraq, Fallujah, Raqqa, Ramadi ISIS actually counter attack Alright I'm ready They counter attack What is their methodology? Where do they counter attack

1:20:58 Counter-attack by calling them folks. Well, that's one possibility but let's go back That clip to talk about what we do we target our things We you know were very specific we do surgical stuff and and every time we do that Isis counterattacks And let's play this clip out You know in Ramadi at all these little places ISIS they actually counter attack in San Bernardino Orlando Oh Okay, so every time we attack them they counterattack. Only in Orlando or just... I think we should give Orlando to ISIS have at it! Now also play Flynn talking about Orlando and i have two

1:21:51 Preface this. Maybe you should cue up that clip and I think it's called a Davis, I think is David Weiss. You have to look at your little database there. It's the one with all the shooting that took place by the cops but first play Flynn on Orlando Megan, thank you. Well our next guest spent more than three decades in the military including more than 10 years doing intelligence work eventually becoming the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency which is the sister to the CIA General Michael Flynn is tonight asking why the Obama administration was so quick to move on from Orlando? The worst attack on US soil since 9-11 less than three weeks after it happened

1:22:36 General Michael Flynn joins me now. He's also the author of the new book, The Field of Fight How We Can Win The Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies. General good to see you Thanks for having me Why do you think that is? No one is talking about Orlando anymore Yeah I tell ya so after the terrorist attack this most recent terrorist attack in Turkey I'm paying very close attention to this entire problem that we're facing and all of a sudden Orlando just drops off the screen. We barely, if anybody's even talking about San Bernardino...I feel bad. Those people who lost loved ones no one is even talking to them anymore so we have a problem as Congressman King just pointed out right here in our homeland

1:23:17 Turkey is another example of this radical ideology that we are facing and we must discredit this ideology. We can build all sorts of fences and security systems that we want, but until we really go after the ideology which is this radical Islamist ideology Megan, until we decide to do all the tactics in the world, all the little things that we do around airports. That just actually increases the cost and that is to the advantage of our enemy." It doesn't feel like it doesn't. I mean you take off your shoes there but it doesn't feel like its doing anything other than this banal comfort check. No and actually every time they do one of these things what it does is increase the cost for our own security. Okay you can stop it. Now what clip did you want me to play? Look for... here can you do a keyword search look for

1:24:07 sweet spot. This is the cops in Orlando right here we go get ready now this is 5 15 a.m? Is that what does the timing of this was yeah it's where the SWAT team shows up no, It's not when the SWAT team shows up is when they start coming out the hole in the wall that's when that well they just punched a hole in the wall you just heard that bang I bet you that somebody can get a waveform of that and you could probably count. You'd get pretty close to a count. Now here's the thing, this guy Flynn is bitching about the fact we're not talking about this anymore. I believe and always thought this and i thought it was they may have killed a number people in police but

1:25:18 Clip you played in the last show at Napolitano saying that there's no buddy shot until this happened Which is exactly what the FBI report said and I'm thinking They're the reason that this all this chatter that Flynn who apparently has no perspective on anything Flynn's Sorry to all of our military guys Flynn unaware of this any of this information bitching about the fact that we're not talking about Orlando anymore because it was an ISIS, some sort of an ISIS thing. Yeah which he said it was. Which she said it was and now

1:25:56 not talking about perhaps for the following reason in the hospital every time they pull out a bullet from one of these dead guys because they're doing that. They say, oh my God that's a police bullet oops there's another police bullets oh shit does another police bullets they're pulling police bullets out at people nobody is talking about it they don't want to talk about it and their not going to talk about it you might as well kiss this whole thing its done we got guys who I'm in communication with have friends in ED as it's called, emergency department. So in what we would call ER, emergency room and he says no one is talking. It's exactly what you said no one's talking about it. Yeah so there's Flynn with his fantastic analysis right before us I the guys not high on my list as a... I'm not saying that he's smart I'm just saying people like him

1:26:47 Well, he's probably a likable guy. I'd probably have a beer with him. I'd probably have a beer with him before Clapper. I'd have a beer with you any day John... actually wait! I think Comey may be top of the list for beer. Oh, I'd love to have a beer with Comey right? I bet he's... Right did you say right did you just throw a right out there wow hello get off Facebook. With that i'd like to thank you for your courage and saying in the morning to you John C with a c stands for co-host of the award winning no agenda show podcast Dvorak Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water and feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there And in the morning too well I have to thank two artists one I made a mistake and said Mark G had done the artwork for 837 that was CZM 137 who had done that my apologies but oh 836 actually 837 was indeed again by Mark G

1:27:46 And so this was... We have to say something here. If you have the, we'd have to open this up and get his credit I don't remember who it was. What? It may be Cesium again. Cesium 137? We were talking about picking the artwork Yeah Adam and I both thought that the funniest piece was the Hogan's Heroes piece. Oh, this is for Open The Tunnel? Yeah yeah because it actually literally made both of us laugh when we saw it And I said we're too old and were to American for this to matter to many other people I mean even this I don't think a lot of people know that this comes from Hogan's Heroes

1:28:24 with uh, Schultz going, HOOOGEN! No it was never Schultz. It was always Clink Oh Clink I'm sorry yeah, Clink Yeah Clink would be shaking his fist and yell Hogan Are you sure? Mandela effect It was never Schultz. Schultz's thing was, I see nothing...I know nothing it was always this keep you know he would say Hogan but not with that screaming voice that was uh that was Klink and i'm not absolutely sure Klink actually said that specifically just by as a standalone in the show I think it was some from some mockery either in The Simpsons or someplace else. Oh well that could be that Mandela effect there you go yelling but it's not a Mandela effect, the Mandela effect which ended up going deeply into this. Oh no!

1:29:09 Yeah, just to figure out what... After you excoriated me for even bringing it up. Oh! I remember there was a big island off the coast of Australia! She's falling for it And its gone and no one can remember the name of it New Zealand I think was the name of the big island No on the other side And then they showed some globe from an old movie with... See the thing is if the Mandela effect was, if this thing was true that there's somebody rewriting history because of the Hadron Collider. Yeah! That's a big part of it. Oh you did go deep didn't ya? We went through the whole thing And now John C. Dvorak!

1:30:02 exercise in mass hypnosis that I've ever seen. Now, one guy I kind of bought bodies as this whole Mandela effect thing is a psyops to see how stupid the public is and how much they can be manipulated. I'm down with that. I mean, I was thinking that's probably if that's the case I could buy into that. It has some validity to me, it's an experiment Anyway you wanted to say something about the art that we laughed out loud but we just felt it wasn't international enough Well, actually I thought that was an element but i thought it was because its so dated. It's from the 60s! I mean...I'm not sure how many people would actually recognize those two characters. Uh..i mean its like people who are comics and mimics they like to do impressions and they still do Jimmy Stewart. Yeah hello Martin Short

1:30:55 Martin Short, who I like that show with Maya and Marty because it's a Lorne Michaels show so they get all the great Saturday Night Live people on. But Martin Short everything he says is really dated all his jokes are dated. When Richard Simmons is the punchline to a joke you got to work on your material. I mean yes when was the last time anyone seen Richard Simmon? You know the word is he's transgendered to a woman Well any. When surprise me when we let's get this thing is cracking it crackin a day mastered client is at the top of the list so she becomes our automatic executive producer today since you had an associate donation,

1:31:44 That's interesting because she just missed the cutoff for the Thursday show, sent a note in which I have to read and then she sent...I'll explain it. But anyway she came in with $272.72 and she is the Viscountess of Tokyo? I believe. Yep! No so she's Baroness at this point? Well you read the note Let me read the note get the note. She okay, so she came in like 10 minutes ago. She's the Duchess of Japan John the duchess Oh, she's a duchess that's right Okay, she's way up there Yeah And it just and then here and she says is she says another notice I couldn't you tell by her sash? It was so obvious. She says I

1:32:31 I screwed up, you don't have to read the note. In fact, I'd rather not read the note." And then I said, no, I want to read the note! It's a funny note it's a good note and she says oh okay so she wasn't hard to convince and here is the note. She's a pushover. in anticipation of the Brexit analysis is what you might think. Well, you know that it's over we did that born and raised in a multicultural environment in the early 1960s I used to proudly call myself European. I still stand for breaking down all cultural barriers always good back then there were French Franks Italian lira and Dutch shillings guilders shillings

1:33:15 Gilders yes, I guess the guilders gilder so much for breaking down all the cultural barriers. And then she says, and healthy competition I believe that much more can be achieved when directly dealing with each other when each can negotiate their own appropriate terms rather than having to blindly obey to a one size fits all common denominator dictated by an unelected somebody no one even knows trusts or believes in Okay, I'm all on board with that. She says though it might not come easy for quite some time people will actually have to start using their brain again! I believe the Brexit is a first step in the right direction to much more meaningful success and prosperity maybe i am an optimistic daydreaming anarchist but definitely not a xenophobe over to you John Adam from the future

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1:43:43 I'm sorry that your principled, you know professional class is offended. You're offended apparently offended by this word and oh my God, I'm offended Oh, I'm being bullied. I'll tell you John not telling so I can't so Rod just stop goading me It's I understand, you know again their filters the Navy is has been they get a they're troubled. Now, we have to mention Rod Adams actually comes in twice. He's got the $200 here and then at the bottom he said 4999 which is normally anonymous and he says can you pick in kick in the penny so he gets into 200 but he's already in the 200s So I'm not sure why every year Here's his note Thanks for the apology

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1:46:01 Anyway, that's our group of producers and executive producers. And it's a funny group today because all $200 people want to remind you we do have another show coming up shortly and Sunday and there'll be a show three eight 39 and reminds you to divorce that org slash N A to kind of help us Get into July which and we and the 4th of July is on Monday. Yeah, so that means this is a holiday weekend No one will be listening to the show on Sunday now they might listen later. We'll do the show we're gonna Do this show but we're gonna do this show we're gonna work on the holiday yeah So it's what we use what we do show business

1:46:44 Yeah. Show business, baby! You gotta be working on holidays. What? Quit show business?! Yeah exactly. devorek dot org slash n a Well don't you dare quit show business you can be out there participating by propagating the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Okey dokey... Very nice

1:47:22 Perhaps we should just briefly go to Brexit? Just because there's fallout and I got a lot of compliments. People liked very much what we did Some people said, I gotta go back and listen to it again It was just so much that you...so much information you gave Oh is that right? Yeah! Which i thought was nice Did you get the Farage clip Yes I did Now did you get the beginning of it Here's what I have I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives. This clip? Oh, no. Yeah that's the clip but that is deep into the clip You know it was my fault i should've clipped it If he catched the whole clip which I believe is on his website... yeah but I've heard the whole clip But I felt It was you know we're now four days what uh a week later The reason why liked the whole clips because right and the only reason just to make a point

1:48:19 Right at the beginning. I'll just explain it we don't to play it because I don't have it okay, but right at the beginning he is rudely and soundly booed Before he even gets to start to talk oh no. I don't have that you're right and and Whoever's the who's showing something with Schultz Schultz is running the thing and he excoriates well I have that by him what he excoriates everybody else Oh This was he didn't do it just once I only have him as excoriating. At the beginning, he does it at the beginning when he's really booed. It is noisy and they're booing him and he actually looks a little shook up by it because before they just ignored him

1:48:59 And so he looked a little shook up and then he started his rant, and went on and on. Then he goes into this thing that you're gonna play where he condemns everybody... He gets razzed again the second time. And then Schultz comes out, depending who he had translated I thought his response was very funny because he says hey! You know your guys are doing what this guy's always doing Here we go I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives or worked, or worked in business. Or worked in trade... ...Or indeed ever created a job! But listen just listen... Herr Farrarcz, one moment... Just a second... Ladies and gentlemen... I do understand that you're getting emotional but you are acting like UKIP normally acts in this chamber so please

1:50:09 Yeah, don't imitate them. Mr. Farage however I would say one thing to you the fact that you're claiming nobody has done a decent job in their life You can't really say that i'm sorry So you're quite right mr Schultz UKIP used to protest against the establishment and now the establishment protests against UKIP so something has happened here yeah no but that was kind of what you were talking about Yeah, the rest of the speech was mostly gloating. But he had a... Now put on my regular watch list is the Parliament, weekly Parliament debate and he was excoriated in the British parliament for being an A-hole it's pretty funny it wasn't worth clipping but there was one thing I had worth clipping

1:51:05 continue on with what you have. Yes, so when we heard and this was Sunday we didn't have time to really dive into it but I think Sunday already information came out about the meme that was launched saying People didn't even know what EU was, it was the number one Google term. And of course as we found out that there were pretty much about a thousand people who had Googled this but it came through trends and not through... they hadn't looked at the actual numbers just the google trend CNBC who is this? This is, I can't remember who this was but they mentioned it briefly and of course the meme popped up of really you know who was to blame and why they're angry. Their aim! So you have people were angry but anger's not a strategy. It wasn't about 1,000 people. That was only about 1000 people. It's a thousand people but if you Google it maybe most people who barely took the vote don't even know what Google is because it's a generational issue

1:52:04 My point is that there is pain in the world and people don't have an answer. It's generational because, you know, bold people don't understand the internet and just old people, this stupid, stupid old people. Yeah. A little ageism there. I mean, Oh, lots of this isn't it? The ageism is rampant. It's right. It's pretty disgusting actually. Um, Christian on them poor And I want to remind you of what she said, because we played this clip. This was just after Brexit was announced here's what she said. A lot of these leave movements are led by the hard right very xenophobic anti-immigrant very populist nationalist white identity politics

1:52:48 So pretty much a bunch of A-hole racists is pretty much what she said. Old, A-hole white racist! So she gets on the stick with Daniel Hannan now he's the member of European Parliament and was one spokesholes for the leave campaign and I mean you can tell me whenever you want to stop it because it was just fascinating to listen to this argument and she is so convinced of what she just said here that she will not let up with this guy. I'm hearing, a very much softer gentler version of what you proposed during the campaign

1:53:24 temper some of the stuff like what? Like immigration because you yourself have sort of stepped back so has Boris Johnson. Hang on, what have I stepped back for? You have said that... Yes let me get my... yes i've said that we want control back rather than numbers down No no you have said that maybe when not yes exactly And when did I ever say the opposite? When did I ever not say that? Listen do you know and you've been through all this on other channels The reason people voted, the majority of them and I can play you what they've said is to start You just accused me of doing a U-turn. No, backtracking! Okay maybe that's a u-turn. When have I ever said anything different? You have said in your Leave campaign and you are the lead spokesman for the leave campaign that immigration and free flow was the sine qua non... Never! I've never ever said that.

1:54:10 called why vote leave. Would you agree that the Leave campaign's main objective in terms of sovereignty was to stop the free leave movement? She is crazy! Isn't she an interviewer, isn't she a journalist? All she's doing is saying you lie, you're wrong... How?! Let the guy talk! It's not unprecedented to be this style of interview. This is the way it, it's very unusual for the American audience but this is kind of what they do on Newsweek or whatever news night week. What's that show on the BBC? News watch! No it's not news watch question time now it's news

1:54:52 News night. That's it. News night, okay. Yeah news night is kind of the 60 minutes way of the BBC they'd run it on Fridays in America BBC American you hear on most PBS stations and they have that interview style well this isn't not even interviewing me what's his name he's gone there and usually yelling at the person and they won't let him change their minds that's not I don't think unusual but she's a dick. Are you then saying that this immigration is going to be much lighter than you all promised? I have never ever made any commitment on numbers, ever. On the country... Not numbers just facts no free movement of labour What we say is that we would take back control now what that means is that a foreign court should no longer get to determine who can reside in this country who can enter this country but that should be a question for parliamentary sovereignty We are clear about that So you're saying it does not... You're saying that parliamentary sovereignty could quite easily allow the same number of people to keep coming in? That will be a decision for Parliament

1:55:53 That's how democracy works. You have got to be kidding me! This whole thing was run on im- Can I play for you? You guys have been shouting racist so long, we weren't listening to what we were actually saying. Did I say that?! When did YOU retract that right now? When have I ever... Did I say that? Yeah, you pretty much said that. The made immigration my issue. Did I say that? Yes. Well, you would accuse of backtracking and I want you to give me wha- We've always- Hold on. Yes. YES, YOU SAID IT A lot of these Leave movements are led by the hard right very, very xenophobic anti-immigrant. Very populist nationalist white identity politics and the reason is because this has to be the narrative it must be the narrative because we can connect this horrible decision to Donald Trump and that is exactly what Van Jones did now van Jones I did not see him on CNN after Brexit do you see him anywhere

1:56:50 No, I didn't. So he was maybe because it's not his wheelhouse? I don't know...I'm not quite sure what his wheelhouse is He was one of the guys looking it up on Google But he did a Facebook live video post that I stumbled upon right after, it was on the No Agenda Face Bag group. I just have to play because you could listen for Christiane Annenpoel forever just goes on for five minutes Van Jones he did ten minutes a chop it down to couple minutes but you'll get the idea because this is the way its being used in United States press what a mistake polls were wrong old white people racist win when your sleep. I know you don't want hear this

1:57:33 But tonight, while we're all just Netflixing and chilling out not paying attention to anything the UK just voted to leave the European Union. So-called Brexit Britain exit Brexit Thanks for that! You haven't cared about it nobody cares about it Dad you don't listen to The No Agenda Show It's summertime We're all happy This is the end of the world And that's just the beginning of his little rant. Folks. Yes, exactly folks idiots. Yeah, so he's predefining these people as idiots They don't know anything about this but he's gonna tell him about it and is and let's start with the premise that It's the end of the world until you can scare you to death There's a way the Democrats like to do. This is absolutely I didn't hear any more of it I mean we want to hear the rest of it but or some of it

1:58:39 But right now I can already tell this guy is an a-hole. Yeah, disdain for people you American people who i speak to are stupid because you're only doing Netflix and chill there's an element of that sure we have stupid people everywhere but this is really coming from up high. It's just summertime we're all happy This is the end of the world as we know it Okay, okay. Please take this seriously what happened? What happened what happened was you have this complete right-wing crazy racist xenophobic horror show that breaks out and

1:59:23 In the UK, they don't want no immigrants. I love his double negatives these are really good They don't want no immigrants Hey Van Jones go back to school with you he does a triple negative at a certain point in the UK They don't want no immigrants Does that sound familiar? They don't want multiculturalism Did that sound familiar They don't want to have nothing to do with nobody, period. Except for people who look just like them basically white folks in Britain they say they can't even deal with white folks in Europe! They just wanna be on their own so everybody goes no way who cares these people are crazy

2:00:09 If you vote for Brexit, if you vote to leave the European Union, you're going to destroy the economy. You're going to be doing crazy stuff! You're gonna crash your stock market." Does any of this sound familiar? Hmm... You've got a movement of crazy people that are going for power making lunatic arguments and then you have good thoughtful liberal people saying all that wouldn't be prudent That wouldn't work out. The policies seem irrational And then all the polls come out and the polls say, hey this thing is gonna lose. There's no way that people would do something as stupid as voting for Brexit! Is he an economist? Does he have a... we want to look him up on the book of knowledge and see if what his credentials are. He's a scrounger. He doesn't do anything. He was a... he's been in a consultant. He's a community organizer. Ah yes. You got kicked out of the Obama administration I don't remember why though

2:01:12 Why did he get kicked out? Well I can tell you kind of why. Okay He was a racist A-hole that the right wingers got figured out and they hounded Obama on those radio shows and everything else to get him kicked out, he's got a grudge! And by the way but we're talking about it...I just had to throw this in The stock market went down right after Brexit and then it went down a little bit again. And that was like, because there was so much uncertainty nobody figured it out what we're supposed to do And so the next day it went way up, then it went way up again. I will say that today its going up over 200 points today is almost back to the 18000 mark and Soros has his money. Soros has his money mission accomplished whatever he did he made money

2:02:07 Yeah, that's how you do it. You're short for a couple of days and then you're long again and then right back to where you were That must have been killing for somebody who knew what was going to happen I think he bought into gold Was my understanding He liquidated everything got into gold Gold is actually hanging in there Gold went great It went up 100 bucks And so now its starting to drop Yeah, it'll drop down again It drops slowly Doesn't go down fast Another minute of van? Yeah Get back Nobody would do this and the polls are so reassuring. And all the liberal people, and the smart people come on here. Oh these foolish people. Smart people just as smart people come on. Liberal and smart yeah. And they come on the air because like him he's a smart person. They think that they would vote. This will never happen

2:02:58 just happened. Crazy hard right lunatics just led the UK off a cliff into the vast abyss of stupidity. Wait, did he say abysst? I think it's adding a T to the... Yes! Abyssed He didn't say abysses, he said abyssed Into the vast abyss Yeah, you said abyssed Yeah, he went into the abyss. Does he know that like over half of the Sikhs voted to get out? What is this? Most ethnics voted to get out then it was mostly working people though The financial guys are the ones that were all in the stay and the Scots yeah I don't know i'm here does this guy actually know what happened? I am talking to you from the abyss! Hey hey! The Abysst! The Abysst is actually a bar in South Brooklyn

2:03:55 off a cliff into the vast abyss of stupidity and foolishness and soon to be economic chaos. Chaos? Does this sound familiar? Hello, back to normal. Well then well uh... To be fair this was after this all happened. And soon-to-be economic chaos. Chaos! Does it sound familiar? I don't know man tell me. We've gotta take this seriously who are incredibly uncomfortable with multiculturalism, they're incredibly uncomfortable with immigration. They're incredibly uncomfortable with the world changing and these people will go an vote in very large numbers and the pollsters miss it!

2:04:39 The pollsters don't get it. The pollsters call reasonable people and ask them reasonable questions and get reasonable answers, and put you to sleep! And they tell you that Trump can't win. They told the people in Britain that these Brexit people couldn't win. Those sane people went to sleep... ...and the crazy people stood up. Everybody who tells you that Trump can't win should start screaming at them Because all they're doing is putting our base to sleep. All they're doing is calming people down when they should be riling people up and if you want to know will this strategy work or will it fail look at what just happened in the UK So that was a little excerpt from the 12 minutes he posted on the bag It's reasonable I think it's an unreasonable presentation for the dummies that listen to him, uh-huh The folks folks and

2:05:32 And the point, what is the real point is that we've got to make sure we get the numbers because Trump numbers most ever in the history of the Republican Party for primary voters are kind of frightening. Because and there is an element that a lot of people say took part during the Brexit polling which has people which is you know They didn't want to take part in the polling so I said, I'm voting to stay and they voted leave. And there's all this other thing that buyers remorse thing they're pushing it as hard as they can try to convince people they bring some stooge out is why I voted to leave but after all has happened

2:06:09 you know that which is going to go away rather quickly once the market stabilizes because that's what everyone was freaked out about. They were hoping it was going to crash and Horowitz and I talked about this on a special edition on DHS. Yes, I heard that last time it was very good. It was like you know this was like is this gonna be the thing that's gonna take You know, we have a lot of problems. We get so much debt it's unbelievable but is this going to be the triggering mechanism? And that's the question everyone was asking right now. It doesn't look like it in fact it doesn't look like anything and made the opposite may happen And there is something important about what Van Jones did here, although he didn't quite put it together in the same sentence. And of course I'm going to the Oracle for this Scott Adams who posted on his blog and his never ending hypnosis persuasion technique analysis of Donald Trump that he said OMG

2:07:00 that they may not realize it, but the Clinton campaign have come up with a dynamite persuasion mechanism that he believes will... He's now turned. He said if Trump doesn't combat this you will lose. Clinton will win in the landslide and he says calling Trump racist hurt him already But by combining crazy, when you say a crazy racist he says that is a very very powerful persuasion tool and it almost cannot be combated by Trump unless he continuously talks about how we loves all children of all colors of the rainbow. And I think there's a good point! Crazy racists... Yeah i read this too and he..I think there was

2:07:51 There's some weak spots in his argument and I think a lot of times he is being kind of purposely combative. He probably executing persuasion techniques on us. There are couple things in there that, first of all the Clinton campaign didn't or didn't they stumbled on this, which is what he says may have happened. Thus they will not do what's going to happen as they since they stumbled on it and since they don't believe any of the bull crap about persuasion because if there were no you know do things that the old fashioned way it's an old fashioned group and they're gonna do things the old fashioned way like like the way you just heard Van Jones do it

2:08:32 They're just, they're gonna revert. So that thing is not going to stick because they won't push it enough there as opposed to crooked Hillary which Trump sticks with. He's...Trump is the guy who knows how to do this and I think the original thesis of Adams was correct and I think it remains correct. I just don't think that Hillary folks will stick with this meme. Are you calling them stupid? By saying folks? Folks! Folks are smart. They're smart liberals, so I think Adams is wrong and Trump is trying to switch around a little bit. I'm not liking the new Trump that much he's not that interesting it's not that good for the show now let's play this this is Trumpies on

2:09:20 Hannity, no no O'Reilly. Is he there? O'Reilly I think it was on last night. It's O'Reilly and this one comment just was like okay play this little clip Pretty good chance of winning i don't like to be giving out all this information i'd like to just go and do the job if you look at General Patton he wasn't one to give out information on television and then... Now I don't think Patton was giving information out on television Uh, he's no not in those days. No these references are like he wasn't giving information on television is not doubtful and then O'Reilly said nothing or I says what was there? So those were the radio days and it wasn't like there wasn't really television. I mean it was an experimental. There was a product out there called television. We had war film we had war films before it was newsreels

2:10:10 They played them all at theaters. I remember when the only war reporting was on a celluloid newsreel in the theater! So Trump's got to be careful and also O'Reilly should be listening a little bit, he...I don't think he listens to anybody. I don't watch him it's hard to watch him annoying. And you're right but but you're right Trump is boring, he's become extremely boring with his demeanor, but this is the pivot. This is the pivot and I think it will make a difference. Well he might still be good in these in-person things where he does the big audience. He talks to 20 thousand people and has to you know... brings it up a little bit. I think he plays a better game there And that's being ignored to see still drawing the big crowds like Bernie does. One of our producers did something very nice and he sent me two little clips from the 2008 campaign

2:11:06 A little shorty here, these were political advertisements. Of course we had Barack Obama running against Hillary Clinton and here's a piece from Hillary about Barack. Shame on you Barack Obama! Okay I remember that one but here is the one from Obama about Hillary which... Shades of Trump just listen It's what wrong with politics today Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected. Now she's making false attacks on Barack Obama The Washington Post says Clinton isn't telling the truth She championed NAFTA, even though it has cost South Carolina thousands of jobs And worst of all it was Hillary Clinton who voted for George Bush's war in Iraq Hillary Clinton shall say anything and change nothing It's time to turn the page

2:12:03 Paid for by Obama for America. I'm Barack Obama, candidate for president and i approve this message Alright! Kind of shows you how these elections work doesn't it? Yeah yeah exactly the same thing Trump is saying now exactly she voted for the war he voted for NAFTA when President Obama said it love that guy from says it crazy racist cool Yeah, well they should dredge some of these old ads up and just play them again. Yeah it's always fun to do that! And then of course we had this event in Phoenix which I think warrants a little discussion before we take a break Charlie Rose actually categorizes it as something very funny First talk about Hillary Clinton and her husband the former president at a meeting with Loretta Lynch which seems on the face of it simply to be an innocent meeting of two politicians saying hello

2:13:01 I'm just not smart, right? Not a smart thing to do. Two politicians saying hello Yeah that's what it was. He is not a politician No neither is he anymore of course not this crazy Charlie Rose should be beaten over the head with his handbag! I know exactly what took place on that plane but I know exactly what it was and just to frame this I don't if you have any clips on this but to frame it they were both in Phoenix Clinton gets off his plane goes under her plane and has a half hour meeting. Now, in the framing of potential indictment of his wife this would make no sense for Loretta Lynch to do this because if she does not indict everyone will say oh well you know it was inside they made a deal and I can tell you what the deal is if I know okay game If you don't... First of all before you do let me preface that give you a little more

2:14:02 Ground to stand on. I listened to, I didn't take any clips of this but I listened to all the analysis of it. And one of the analysis points according to Lynch and there was she did say a few things they just talked about their kids! Yeah! About the grandchildren So nice yeah they talked about you know Chelsea and this and that it took a whole half hour to do this apparently and of course everyone mocked this whether they believed that's what happened or not nobody was pleased It has conflict of interest written all over it, but these sorts of meetings you can't do these things. But okay now yours." I think there's two things one without a doubt he said if you don't indict your on the Supreme Court that for sure that was the offer. The Supreme Court makes nothing but sense for her woman African-American fabulous

2:14:59 But I think, you know the Clintons went and this much. I know from reading these books when there's a scandal they create a different scandal then I think we're going to see Someone is going to take the fall for Benghazi and I think he gave her the info He said go after this person This is the person you want something like that but for sure she was offered Supreme Court seat for sure. I'm not gonna argue That's a great analysis because that would be exactly what she'd want. By the way, you know she's a twerp too! Yes it's like Obama only hires these short black women. You know they're very... we're talking about women that are yeah I'm not disparaging short women i think there is nothing you know very attractive petite women are all over the place but these women are all 411 to 510 maybe. Is she that tiny?

2:16:03 I didn't notice this until recently when she was with Carrie or someone that's really tall. She is very small, i would say if you put her next to the twerp, the twerp, Susan Rice, I think they are the same height. Well it doesn't say in the book of knowledge she's 57. I do know Hillary Clinton is 5'3". Yeah, she's short too. Man did you see her and what a fashion disaster I'm sorry just to talk about the fashion of it. Elizabeth Warren? I don't care what you say about what they said The two blue outfits oh my god this was the fashion disas- This was really fash holes! This is no good! Tell us more! I am very interested in this part of the conversation It was a total disaster No good

2:16:50 No good. The president... I thought Warren's office was a little classier because you had the black as contrast color But when you see her talk, it's like she has Tourette's man She's insane Elizabeth Warren when she in her longer speeches that when I thought she was gonna run for president and win and I was willing to bet on that, I still think she can still pull it out if something really bad happens to Hillary before the election or before the convention. Not much time left you know somebody busted her for something.

2:17:32 Elizabeth was pretty good because she was more plodding but she's actually sounds like a maniac, crazed maniac when she's talking about Trump and she's yelling. She's yelling like Hillary does. No no not like that! She is very very different insanity what I see She looks nuts. I'm just saying she's yelling like Hillary does, Hillary yells a lot. She yells at us with a different cadence but it sounds like yelling misogynist when a man when a man yells he you don't say he's crazy now here's the thing that would be interesting about adding a little love this would really be tough to pull off but i think it's doable if somebody else does

2:18:15 Adding the word, like one of those coinages that you know you keep using with a person like Hillary. Goofy Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas Those don't work and the Pocahontas thing is now being interpreted as racist even though okay hysterical Yeah I can say that You cannot say that Yes, because there's nothing worse than calling a woman hysterical. Even if she is very funny. You can't call her hysterical because it's considered a misogynist commentary currently. But I think somebody could slip it in there and I think Trump might even be able to get away with it with what else can I call her?

2:19:06 She's hysterical. And she is, she's hysterical. She's acting like someone who is insane I would say in hysterics perhaps Yeah but thank you that what I'm seeing her eyes go wide and go... choppy and her whole body is moving like... turrets looks like turrets come on outstanding just to add to the Clinton body count did you hear about this? yeah This guy was from the UN He was identified in a 98 Senate report as the source of hundreds of thousands of dollars illegally funneled through an Arkansas restaurant owner, Charlie Tree to the Democratic National Committee during the Clinton administration.

2:19:54 And he died before he could testify. He was set to testify the next day, and I think a barbell fell on his head? No it fell on his throat Oh well there you go Here i'll spot ya Man. It wasn't a barbell, it was big heavy thing on your back and you're doing some lifts and somebody's behind you because in case you like well I can't hold it! You know they grab it so if somebody just positioned over his throat and dropped him... And he's dead. He's dead. Whoa. Crushed his trachea Just don't ever become close friends with the Clintons. It's just not a healthy idea

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2:31:00 Are we done? Yeah, yeah. We're done I want to bring up a topic then which is we've been trying to determine where Putin stands on the Brexit because there's you know he doesn't want to get too involved so now i realize that he was for the Brexit didn't want to get involved and he's probably for more than that, he would like to see the European Union because they just kind of... Because there are stooges. I don't think he wants the European Union to break up! He wants it all contained doesn't he? I don't know because of this report on RT and not the... By the way, RT has got a deal with these Americans that are on the show because they're conflicting or

2:31:45 Yeah, they're trying to do journalism. That's wrong! No, they're just... Don't do journalism people? They're not even trying to do journalism but their opinion style is too much like you know it's too left-wing right left wing American left wing which is anti all kinds of things and not really in the interest of Russia. And Russia today is Russia today Russia we always watch these shows and look at them and analyze them in fact with it in mind that they're slanted to benefit Russia, their Russian Russia. So, so you get to see some of these shows like watching the Eagles or whatever that one is and they're just bitching and moaning about Trump all the time when I think Putin is probably all for it. And here's what makes me think that they were against hoping the EU falls apart because the EU seems to be like lapdogs for the Americans when it came to these sanctions which still annoy Putin. And of course, I believe this all stems from them holding Snowden.

2:32:42 But let's play this report on the labor riots are still continuing in France and Russia has a different take on it. France has suffered months of protests over the highly contested changes to the law which will among other things allow employers to sack workers more easily. We gauged opinions on the streets at the Capitol where people told us that government is caving into EU demands rather than representing its own people. RT's Lizzie Phelan reports The French Senate passed through a draft version of that Labour law. Critics say it's an extremely harsh version, they say it is far too pro-business and most controversially gets rid of the 35 hour working week. Now of course amidst Brexit many French people talking about the impact

2:33:30 of the EU under national policies, many people saying that these reforms these labour reforms that the French government is pushing through are largely a result of pressure from Brussels. The EU last year particularly the European Commission and the European Council said that France needed to enact labour reforms very similar to those being pushed through by the French government today in order to address its deficit here's what some other people we spoke to on the streets of Paris today had to say There was a similar situation in Germany, a similar law in Spain. All the countries are adopting the guidelines of the European Union which serve the capitalists. This is an absurd scandalous logic which is unacceptable. This was liberal policy which was imposed by Brussels and adopted by Hollande and France is expected to yield. I think there's some little messaging going on there? Well yeah you'd expect it

2:34:27 Yeah, and I think that's anti-EU. Putin right now is he's nosing up to Turkey and he said hey you know we should probably figure out how to get along... You know I know you shot down our jet. I'm following it slow but iIm not absolutely sure this is Putin's initiative. I think turkey's cozying up the Russia because they've lost they've lost now it's going to get worse yep turkey is a massive tourist attraction Not anymore! Well, according to everyone that's at the airport the next day their place was packed. But yeah I know people are skeptical but...I've been to Turkey and it's a... Well time to fly to an airport is right after the attack now is the time to go. It's safest time for the next month Go!Go!Go! But they have um

2:35:16 I mean, the Russians used to be... it used to be their place. They used to go to them they get to the Baltic Sea or something like that. So he lifted the ban? Or there's talk of him lifting the tourism ban? And if you paid some attention to what Erdogan was saying, he apologized! Yes Which i think the Russians wanted He literally apologized for shooting down that plane There ya'go And then that was it. That's what the Russians want, you know I think a lot of people always... My wife is in a beef with the city council up in Port Angeles and she filed an ethics complaint against this one woman Can you go into this? Can you tell us what its about or...?

2:35:55 Yeah, well now it's kind of boring to be honest about it but the city council has got they cut off discussions about some topic and there are conflicts of interest in some other things. So she filed an ethics complaint for shutting down a meeting improperly and now this is big their city spending a lot of money defending this woman My wife has made it clear that if the woman just simply apologized, that she would drop the ethics complaint. And then she filed one against the mayor later which is a troublemaker. So Mimi is filing because she wants her to apologize?

2:36:36 Well, no. She didn't like the woman and she likes harassing her and... Okay let's just make sure that we know about it! But to get her you know end this misery that everyone has to go through because Noah's Mimi found in old city she found in the minutes some places this ethics thing Here's the IR, okay. So this woman and some other people had a guy on the city council they hated him and so they created this ethics law on the books and no one has ever used it! And it's been languishing and Mimi said you know this would apply to this action this woman did. And so Mimi was the first one who ever used this ethics law

2:37:18 And everybody went kind of ballista, what are we going to do? And then she'd use it a second time and then she just had a meeting with the city council the other day. Sorry, with the city manager about the second ethics committee against the mayor who is apparently ailing he's got some health issues and they did a behind-the-scenes deal about what can they do to get her to drop that and she said if they allow people to speak for a longer period of time in front of the city council, she'd drop it. I think that's what was going to happen You're right! It's a boring story Yeah, I told you... I did, I'm sorry I would have volunteered if it was interesting I apologize, I'll never do it again To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates Yes, to the climate gates

2:38:08 Of course the Paris Accords are now on shaky ground with Brexit and we need everyone to buy in, we need everyone to ratify. This is mainly about poor countries getting money, just soaking it all up and part of it is guilt. Of course we're all guilty for ruining the universe with our global warming for whatever we're doing We're so sorry Alaska though getting in on the game trying to look for some money but unfortunately this mayor of some Alaskan town I just mentioned at the beginning He flubs a little bit, but he's saying we need money up here because the sea is rising and it's eating up the coast and we're all going to drown if we don't move. I want to stop you for a second mention that this same

2:39:00 stupid city has been trying to scam for a while. I remember, a couple years ago we had some clip from these guys Yeah They got erosion It's called erosion Except he blames it on climate change wants money and then he goofs up Mayor Mike Ama has lived in Barrow for over 40 years He wants to move the entire city inland To save it from the effects of climate change If there were enough monies available My thought would be to move the town. But it's not that simple Barrow has a billion dollars worth of infrastructure houses schools A heated underground tunnel that keeps pipes and sewer lines from freezing all of which makes moving prohibitively expensive our coastal communities are

2:39:52 tied to the ocean. So in the past, they could move very easily because you just build a new house but we've got buried infrastructure and all of our communities now and there's no easy fix." So here's the problem he says we need money we need money but in the past ie before climate change they just moved I don't understand how no one picks up on these things The guy actually said, well we just moved the town way back when there was no climate change. Yeah so why were they moving it?

2:40:27 Because of erosion just the universe mother earth somebody should come and check out those little townie here around here Pacifica yeah Pacific has been because the ocean slams against these sand banks Yeah, it eats away at the certain streets And then next thing you know these apartment buildings fall into the drink and they have to you know Make move the street. It's just erosion I I have a, I think of more apt one that has less to do with erosion and more to do with just plain stupidity. Uh huh. This is this is a good one Oakland coal facility. Okay?

2:41:05 And as California reels from scorching heat and deadly wildfires, the city of Oakland has taken a step against the fossil fuel industry—a main driver of climate change. On Monday, Oakland City officials voted unanimously to ban the transport and storage of large shipments of coal, quashing plans for what would have been the largest coal shipment facility on the West Coast. The facility in West Oakland would have sent coal from the Western United States abroad to China and other markets. Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said in a statement, quote, Oaklanders know that it's a false choice to say we have to pick between jobs and this community is health and safety. We can and we will do both, the mayor said. So they got this big facility and according to her

2:41:56 It's unhealthy or something. I mean, all it is is just that they take coal off the train and put in a boat and ship the boat ship goes to China, goes to India who knows where it's going to go but it's gonna go to someplace where they burn coal what's got to do with their health of Oakland? I don't make a lot of coal dust. I mean, I don't think the modern facility has a lot of cold us. They have those scrubbers for that. I think it's like a cold dust. I mean there's they're not burning the coal here. So what is her rationale for saying is going to save their health? Oh, I know sucking in soot. That's what it is. Sucking and suck baby sucking in soot. By the way West Oakland is one of the most impoverished areas in the United States

2:42:46 Anything would help the area. No, no Oakland we have to have a lot of poor blacks because that's our image so let's don't do anything that might be you know screw that up I'm done okay I have a couple things to end up with. You gotta close the gate oh I'm sorry give it a swing it will ya swing it hit it pushin' Oh, a little bit of second half of show stuff. You don't mind? I won't play the jingle. The president had a big powwow now known as the North American caucus between Mexico and Canada and United States. And I want to thank...I want to thank the Canadian who sent me two packs of the Zig Zag Trudeau

2:43:44 Uh, papers rolling. Oh, rolling papers that's got Trudeau is they called the Trudeau papers and they got a little image of him I need that and why did they send it to the non weed smoker? Because i asked oh okay all right So the president had this and there was a lot of things that he said that we might have pulled clips from but there was just one thing it just stuck out in my mind. In second half of show totally because we've talked about it many times when it comes to the proven MK ultra program is proven, this was true they really did experiments Bill Clinton even had to apologize for thousands Americans who were experimented on with psychological tricks

2:44:28 mainly run by the CIA, was called the MKUltra program. And there's a couple of things... I'm sorry? Well documented! Yeah and there are a couple of things that are rumored to be triggers for MKUltra people who have either previously were... what is the word i'm looking for? Brainwashed One of them is somewhere over the rainbow. That always seems to be a trigger when somewhere over the rainbow, but the other one came up as the Mexican president used it as an example of how and it was just an odd example of how well The North American caucus is working together Finally I would like to use an example To describe our level of integration

2:45:19 The preservation of the monarch butterfly conservation. This is a species that in its pilgrimage, we can see how our countries are intertwined and back in our last summit we agreed that we would take care of this species and make sure that in its journey the monarch butterfly from Canada flying through the United States all the way down to Mexico. And the figures speak for itself." That's right! And then, the president actually came back! "...We're determined to keep building on the progress that has been made at so many previous summits... ...and by the way Enrique I love the story about monarch butterflies..." Yeah

2:46:02 They're not just any species. No, spectacular Yes they are and we want to make sure that our children our grandchildren can see them as well to be brainwashed by I don't know. I didn't know, it was a little thing the second half of show stuff NPR this will be my last one for today NPR had journalists from The New York Times on talking about FBI and it was of course in relation to the Orlando shooting how FBI uses informants What we consider basically honeypot trap and radicalize people into something that we traditionally called the six-week cycle as it was apparent the FBI for years had to have some kind of event every six weeks or so, to make sure they're on the radar. They're all doing the right thing you don't cut our funding

2:46:54 But these were all, you know they were homeless people that they would radicalize and arrest. They were like the... what was it? Remember the four morons who were... The four morons! They were completely, totally morons. They went they bought the guns for them and it was beautiful to hear this in NPR particularly because I don't think at any point maybe there's a little hint of it but at no point does anyone say in this or does the interviewer say how can this be right?! So here's the opening. When we say an undercover operation, how is that different from a standard investigation? Sure these are... This guy starts with sure every single sentence The New York Times Are basically stings where the FBI has identified someone they see as a potential threat in this case because of support for ISIS now overwhelmingly these people have been identified because of things they have said or done on social media

2:47:52 through either semi-public forms, through Twitter or Facebook or Snapchat or Instagram. Or what they're seeing more and more is encrypted communications that the FBI has been able to break and... Ooh! Did you hear that? A little nugget there Apparently the FBI is able to break some encryption, according Why don't you try that? Why don't you try tweeting right now, You go ISIS. See if it's not a crime." If that is taken to the next level, if you are pledging allegiance and support for ISIS, then that could conceivably be a crime so the FBI depending on how much of a threat they think someone is… Could that be a crime if you pledge allegiance to ISIS? That's a thought-crime or is that a crime?

2:48:49 I don't know. To be honest, about it? I don't know. Well we'll just keep listening. ...more and more to undercover operations not just monitoring these people but sending in either actual FBI agents to pose as jihadists or ISIS sympathizers or sometimes even gun dealers or bomb makers or using informants in an undercover capacity those aren't FBI employees but they're sort of acting as agents of the FBI to really determine their intentions. And what we found was that with ISIS occupying a greater place of concern for the FBI in the last 18 months, they have resorted increasingly to these undercover operations now about two out of every three FBI investigations into suspected ISIS supporters they are approving undercover investigations to do that

2:49:44 which is a much higher percentage than we saw just a few years ago with these ISIS cases. So they're using very aggressive methods, not just as undercover observers but really as participants in cases to say here help us out in buying some guns for an attack. Help us out with setting up a bomb to attack a synagogue Hey, hook a brother up man. Hook a brother up." So here's the example and this is of… And people should be careful if you're – don't make new friends. Yeah. Shun people! Hi nice to meet you. Don't want to be friends if you don't mind. If you don't mind. Here's the example of the Newburgh homeless guy. The case of the Newburgh sting in Newburgh, New York where there was a documentary about this where

2:50:35 Yeah, that was a fascinating case before ISIS where the judge was clearly very troubled. She said in sentencing these four guys in Newburgh that had it not been for the FBI there would have been no plot. The FBI and her view created this entire situation and yet she thought her hands were tied and sentenced all four of them to prison time because the FBI at the end of the day, can point to its record of convictions in all these cases since 9-11. And they have never been found to have breached the line of entrapment in Newburgh or any of these other cases. They've been very aggressive but they've been – in the view of FBI and judges within bounds of law." And the final…it was really so much more this interview I'm just bringing out some highlights you can find the whole thing on the show notes 838.noagendanotes.com

2:51:28 Of course the question is how does this all stand up in court? Could the target be legitimately charged and convicted? Under no circumstances! If they can legitimately say that the person was predisposed to, to that mindset. That's pre-crime by the way if the person was predisposed to that mindset

2:52:06 My goodness. Legitimately say that the person was predisposed to, to that mindset that the FBI did not introduce the idea of radicalism to them they can do an awful lot after that point if they have identified someone who has already shown a proclivity towards towards a radical mindset um they can really go step by step That's me, by the way. willy-nilly identifying someone and introducing the idea. If they can say, this is someone who was already walking down that road and we just sort of let him there a little bit quicker. Precrime... Precrime? It's precrime! We make it a little quicker. United States of America everybody do not say anything wrong over your freedom of speech

2:53:18 And on that downer... What was that last show and the guy, poor guy's trying to give us some uh a donation and he... It was crazy. Crazy! ...they act about ISIS or something they damn near locked him up Dumb Alright everybody I have the Zika bill under the loop very interesting I have it-I have a last clip Oh i'm sorry I thought you were done You said you were done? I thought-I said it was done but I lied oh okay just oh crooked Dvorak Crooked Dvorak. I just wanted to get this out of the way, this is the California to put pot back on the ballot! California voters will decide in November whether to legalize recreational marijuana Secretary of State Alex Padilla said proponents of legalization have submitted more than enough signatures to get the issue on the ballot if the initiative passes one in six Americans would live in a state where selling marijuana is legal Suckin' and soot Nice

2:54:15 All right, we voted against it once before. We can do it again! Of course! Liberal California, look out for it. Alright everybody we will return on Sunday as I said the Zika bill very interesting what happened there is that Democrats blocked the Zika bill and I'll tell you why. Can't wait to hear about it. Oh yeah but wait until you find out what was really about nutty so that's a tease classic tease in the classic tease sense of manner? Just fast forward folks We thank everybody for producing this program, for helping us financially as well as with information jingles clips artwork you name it and we'll be back with another show on Sunday. So until then coming to you from the skyscraper the crackpot condo in downtown Austin capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 I'll say yeah will see you on Sunday in the morning everybody

2:55:15 My name's Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it might not be a bad day unlike yesterday when it was all foggy and terrible I'm John C. Dvorak We will return on Sunday with more deconstruction news analysis and yes comedy bits right here on NOAgenda Adios mofos! Where does this fit into the cycles? Well going to regulate kettles is perfect Where does this fit into the cycles Which is right into the cycle way. It's a new form of generosity, but it was largely botched Well, it's right into the cycles Saying that they were going to regulate I know Whether or not this is the big body was largely simply different tools. Well if it's right end of the cycles All this

2:56:16 So they write, right? Specifically the world. It's a new- it's- it's- it's- I think Rick specifically the British Tom and where does this fit into the cycle? All of small government governments in order or not out you know and energy is- And here's what I now but whether gov uploaded posters of the kind that the English users are not democratic it's a new- it's almost perfect Smooth as practice, I- nah, but don't cut out saying that there wasn't two. CANTRAIN! Suckin' and suckin', suckin' and suck, suckin' and suck. You might not die.

2:57:51 You might die, sucking in soot. You might die, sucking in soot. I think they're geeks! Isn't it funny? You know when I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union well I have to say you're not laughing now are ya?

2:58:29 We want our country back. We want our borders back! We want a dependent, self-governing normal nation. Funny isn't it? Funny isn't it?! Amen fist bump Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe! Jeborak dot org slash N A