Manbuns & Mohawks

00:00 But it's great. Liberals are psychotic. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. And Sunday, June 12, 2016. And time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 833. This is no agenda. Wishing our advice wouldn't be followed for once and broadcasting live from the capital the drone star state here in Austin Tejas, FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm celebrating palindrome week. I'm John C. Dvorak That's right palindrome week yes, it may be overshadowed

00:41 But this morning or last night, I guess it was last. I guess it was this morning. It was this morning shooting. Yeah. And, you know, we talked about two things. One, there would have to be a major event that would help Donald Trump get elected. But so many times we've said before, if you really want to get Americans attention, kill the gays. And there we go. Thanks. This is bad. I think it should be. Was it kill the gays or just involve the gays? No, no, no, no. Or condemn the gays? No, no, no, no. This was about what the caliphators were doing. Or write to Taliban people throwing the gays off the roofs. ISIS more, not to Taliban. ISIS. I'm sorry, not Taliban, ISIS. But throwing people off buildings didn't really do it. No, you got to kill some American gays.

01:34 It was never promoted much. No, no, no. It was not. We have an Afghanist to stand ethnic. I mean, he's an American born in the United States to make a big. You know, they're trying to turn this into a gun thing. Oh, that's what they're going to try to do. But check it out. From what I understand, first of all, from our sources, I don't have I can't. Let's just say what happened. People are some. By the time people hear this, we already may know a lot more because this is always the downside of a podcast. But apparently a guy came in, according to his dad, he hated the idea of gays kissing each other in Florida, Orlando. And so he went to go shoot him up in the gay club. Which may not have, which may not have, no it wasn't, it's a gay club but it was actually a Latin dance night. So it was not all homosexual. It doesn't matter. But that appears to be his motivation.

02:33 And from what I understand, he either... A, was not only was he under FBI surveillance already... In fact, I thought I had a clip of that maybe somewhere. But he appears to also have been a vetted and approved security guard. Which would make it rather annoying to pin this on guns, seeing as, you know, he was vetted and had guns for his job. Yeah. So how do we do that, huh? So you kill 50 apparently and wound is 53 and that number will change drastically because nobody gets these things even remotely right. Yeah, this was, I caught this late last night.

03:16 as this was all coming, kind of coming... Late last night, because it was supposed to have taken place at 2 in the morning. East Coast time, which should have been... 1 a.m. my time, that's late last night. Oh, you were up. Okay. Hello, Saturday night? Yes. I don't sleep much between Saturday night prep and Sunday morning, but listen to this. What I can tell you is... This is... and the guy from the FBI. The history that we know of this individual so far is that he may have made threats that he was tied to it. The definitive determination made at this point, obviously, we're in the initial stages of the investigation and we're running every lead to ground. I'm sorry, Agent Hopper, I think you're falling out for one sec. Just to be totally clear, he made threats that he had ties to what? There's allegations that the individual has made threats in the past to having ties to

04:05 And the phone cuts out again. Did you hear that? It was really good. It's probably coincidental, but he says threat that he had ties to and then the phone drops out. And then when he comes back, he doesn't really want to mention that. And Agent Hopper, that information coming to you from what his computer, his cell phone? his social media, somebody who knows him, a family member. Where does that information come from, those allegations? Yeah, unfortunately I can't divulge that information at this time because all these things are tied to the actual active investigation. So we're trying to be as clear and transparent as we can because we want the general public to feel as safe. Trying to be as transparent so we can't reveal it, is that what he said? Yeah, trying to be as transparent as possible. That's why we can't tell you anything. It's great. Wow. It's great. Now, did you get that clip using a tin can and a string? This is a, he's calling into a TV show.

05:07 So, now I understand, let me just get my articles here, and all this stuff will change, but it's always fun to grab the things at the beginning of an event because the information changes drastically over time. Apparently he was a registered Democrat. Uh-oh! I know, this is going to be very, very annoying. And yeah, registered Democrat. Because we have we have people who could pull up those that even pertinent to this. How did they dig that out? No? No, that's one of our guys who dug that up wait. Oh wait for it Okay, that's fine one of our guys who has access to that kind of stuff once his name was out. Yeah, you look it up Yeah, so sir Democrat so this is definitely going to change a lot of narrative We'll see what happens, but man. This is bad. This is this is a bad one and

06:06 Yeah, this is on par almost, not quite with the numbers, but it's kind of on par with the Paris incident. It may wind up being very much on par. I mean, it was 20 dead, now it's 50 dead. Most of the dead still inside as far as I understand. And it went from 20 to 50 in like an hour. So, I don't know. But this is no false flag, this is real. At least what this guy did is real. And where he comes from, yeah, I don't know. I can just see everyone freaking out. You've got the Trump camp, of course, going, oh, we gotta make sure this is terrorism. And I think the Clinton camp will definitely want to skew it, guns and gays. Oh, show title. Guns and gays.

07:00 Or the guns and the gays, I don't know whatever you prefer Yeah, so yeah, this is this is gonna be interesting who has the power to spin this And will the media step up? So far, they're, you know, again, being very, very cautious. And there were Muslim guys... Well, they haven't given their marching orders yet. Yeah, CARE was already on TV this morning. It's a weekend, you know, they can't get their orders. It's a weekend, everybody's off. That's right. If this was something that was a false flag, it never happens on a weekend. Oh, of course not. There's too much planning involved.

07:36 Oh, my, my, my. But of course it does another great thing. It does cover up a lot of annoyances for certainly for Hillary Clinton at this very moment where, you know, we have today Donald Trump is supposed to have his big speech would unveil all of the nastiness of the Clinton Foundation. So I didn't think it was I thought it was going to be a Monday or Tuesday. I'm sorry. It's Monday. What am I thinking? Yeah. Monday, Sunday, Monday. Yes. But it'll be tough for him to jump into that unless he has something else to do. Well, I think it's a bigger event. It's gonna put a real... It's gonna put a downer into the Tonys. The Tony Awards. The Chonys? No, the Chonys are on Monday or tonight? Tonight. Tonight. We'll have to have a moment of silence.

08:18 By the way, I'm gonna go out of just not to change the subject But I'm gonna go out on a limb because we're so damn good at predicting things. Let me guess Hamilton Hamilton is gonna win a bunch of Tony's think everything's gonna win everything. Hey John. That's great man. No Fabulous you write it down good in the red prediction. Yeah, put that in put it in a special red book. Yeah But it's shocking. This is this is I'm shocked by this Well, it's pretty nasty, that's for sure. It's some maniac. I mean, that's crazy. How did the guy shoot himself? I never got the end of the story. Well, I think police killed him. And there's also a big sub, you know, side story, which is about the Kevlar helmet that saved one of the cops' lives. And of course, it's pretty much a military camouflaged helmet.

09:11 So I don't know why that all of a sudden is maybe that's all they have oh We got a guy almost died and you know show the bullet hole and so how was Kevlar helmet saved him? But you could position that information many ways, but his Kevlar helmet saved him is an interesting one Yeah, so we need more we need more of the militaristic. Yeah, we need more helmets. Yeah personal and it's no longer riot gear It's a personal protection gear. Yeah, that's what it is and That's about all I have John. It's a that's I don't have anything on it. Yeah, we'll probably know more Complete story wrap up Thursday and Thursday. We'll have so much. We'll have so much by Thursday You know who knows where we'll be depending on how this is spun

10:01 I'm sure... The thing is, like, it's also, it's such a dichotomy, or maybe just a brain freeze, you know, because we want to protect the Muslims, we don't want to say, hey, Muslims are potentially jihadist radicals and terrorists. On the other hand, you know, we've got, you know, gays. I don't know which, who gets, who should be the beneficiary in this one. I think it would be interesting to deconstruct it. I think it's pretty straightforward though. Some loose nut. Well, the story the way I see it from what I've heard and the statements from his father is he hated gays.

10:48 And he had access to weapons legally, he probably was trained in them, and somehow he gets past... And they never really say that this police officer who was at the door, if he was off duty just working the door, or if he works the door as a part of the police department's job, you know, part of the police force, they do that anyway. And so how did a guy with a quote assault type rifle and handguns and some form of quote device how did he get in? Hmm. Yeah, exactly. Did he have to pay a cover? Muslims were free I hear on the Saturday night. All right. What else we let's go to the real news. Yeah, if we have to that there's a Okay, where do you want to start? We both have again a lot of clips. I

11:40 Yeah, I don't have as many as last time. Well, let me get one out of the way which I was a carrier from last time. Because there was still way too much Muhammad Ali material on the news. I mean it was clogging up the Deutsche Welle and everything in between. That funeral, man, it lasted, what, five hours? Everybody was there, they were doing stand-up, it was unbelievable. There was also a separate event for the the Muslim, the black Muslims. And this brings me to a point I want to make. Wait a minute, what do you mean they had a separate event? They had another funeral, the black Muslims, and Muhammad Ali was one. Yes. They had a separate event.

12:26 Huh, and no white non-Muslim, cisgender non-binaries allowed? I think it was just mentioned in passing. Yeah, they weren't allowed. No, of course not, unless they were black Muslims, which is unlikely. So they had a local guy, he's an Oakland, very famous writer, novelist in Oakland called Ishmael Reed, very famous guy. And he was on Democracy Now! to discuss The Muhammad Ali thing, because he wrote a definitive book on Muhammad Ali, studied him for 10 years. He was fascinated by the guy. And he has a few interesting things to say and including this, which is a clip one. Muhammad Ali. And talk about why you spent years researching his life. Well, I think that his death sort of represents a great tragedy, because this is a man who

13:26 Stayed in the ring too long was abandoned by his entourage I was broke and suffering from brain damage when he fought his last two fights according to Angelo Dundee is a trainer It's a great tragedy and without the intervention of his current wife I think he might be might might have died a long time ago. So I'm very skeptical about this adulation that's happening now because none of those people who are praising him wanted to rescue him and or try to intervene when, for example, he was suffering horrible physical damage from taking punches from people like Larry Holmes. So I think that this is a great tragedy. I think that not enough attention has been given to the influence of the Nation of Islam on Muhammad Ali.

14:21 So he says everybody this is a this event. He's he's appalled by it because of the right Hypocrite hypocrites yeah, it was a phony didn't do him a help him at all during his last days when he was brain damaged up from the Larry Holmes fight Which I saw and I saw Billy Crystal And he was funny, but yeah, but You know it's like really you were that close to him you're his good buddy and still you can kind of let him wilt away I mean, I don't know but well Ishmael is making the points. I think he does know and he was worked about this now he mentioned a nation of Islam being the

15:05 the people that actually saved Muhammad Ali. He got him out of the army and got him to be a conscientious objector. But what he also mentions, he believes that his entire career, and this is never mentioned by anybody except him in this book and on the show, his entire career was saved by the Nation of Islam and including the This next story, which he tells, which I found to be, I never knew this, and I found it fascinating, and I think a lot of this has been overlooked. They did have a few clips of Malcolm X talking fondly when he was alive during Ali's career.

15:47 talking fondly of him and that was a very interesting clips there, but this has completely been pushed under the rug of the Nation of Islam connection and the importance of it. And that's why I thought that this other ceremony that they had, which was again repressed, it was also somewhat hypocritical and humiliating. But play the second clip. This is very, very interesting. And his resistance... Now, one more thing, Amy, I wanted to mention this. Ernie Terrell was considered the mob fighter. There was a... My book was published in Canada, and so some of my passages have a Canadian emphasis. There was a showdown between organized crime, which ran boxing, up to the Nation of Islam, introduced an organization called Main Bouts. The showdown happened in Toronto.

16:40 Ali and Herman Muhammad were warned that if Ali didn't take a dive and didn't fall to Ernie Terrell, he would wind up at the bottom of Lake Michigan. Now, according to George Shavalo, whom Ali fought, the man who made the threat was paid a visit by the Nation of Islam. And you want to know what happened after that, you can read my book. Wow. Huh. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah, so how do we get more on that or does this guy? Always that way of selling a book. Yeah, that's kind of good but Yeah, so that was when I mean when he beat Ernie Terrell, which was a big deal of a fight and they had a big

17:31 kind of a fight before the fight, yelling at each other, just as Muhammad Ali changed, just during the period where he had, after he changed his name. And Tarell refused to call him Muhammad Ali, he kept calling him Cassius Clay, and they got into a, kind of a phony publicity, gaining, stunned with Howard Cosell. But, I didn't know any of this. So, there you go. Now, we also weren't doing a show back then, otherwise we might have known. We might have. Another thing I, think we talked about is this move, if you don't mind me transitioning away from this, you okay? No, I'm done. Alright. The move towards defining Donald Trump as clinically insane and mentally ill. And this would be one of the strategies and it's kind of a two-pronged strategy. Let the world know he's mentally ill.

18:20 And of course we can't have a mentally ill person with his hand on the nuclear codes or his hand on the button. That's kind of the strategy. You know, I want to stop you there for a second because I think, I want to hear this, but I think what Elizabeth Warren is doing is much more effective than this. I think this other thing is going to be a dead end. Well, interesting you say that because I wanted to get into it with just a quick hit here from Elizabeth Warren when she was talking to Rachel Maddow. This is when she pretty much announced that she would be endorsing Hillary Clinton. Here's how she starts off about Trump. And by the way, just listen to her. The way she talks is so fake. I wonder if she talks to her husband like this. Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this country. He is a threat economically to this country, but he is a threat to who we are as a people. There is an ugly side to Donald Trump that we all have to stop and think about what's going on here. And I would submit

19:15 When she says there's an ugly side, I think that is the ugly side of the country. We have that ugly side. You know, the funny thing is to me when I listen to her, she's representing it too. Because she's doing the same thing. She's doing exactly the same thing. She's name-calling. And there's something I was thinking about because I'm considering the way she's handling this. She has her memes. Donald Trump is thin-skinned. He is greedy, and he's a racist. He's a greedy, bigoted, racist, thin-skinned jerk. She does a little more in this clip, but yeah. Well, let me finish my thought, which is that while she's doing this,

19:59 In a very mean-spirited way as least as mean-spirited as Trump has ever been Trump always did it in the context of debating Right so the people that he had this this beefs with were people that were trying to beat him out of this job She's got no dog in the hunt for all practical purposes. She's just doing it because she enjoys it I think she's more mean-spirited than Donald Trump. Oh, I Totally. And then, of course, after this interview, she went to meet with Hillary Clinton at the Clinton House in upstate New York. And so she was promised something. I well, let's listen to the rest of her clip. And I don't know if she was actually offered the VP slot or secretary of state, but she's been offered something for sure. I have to stop and think about what's going on here. And I'll look up one example. We talk about him and one example. Now, she says this is her big example.

20:52 to show this horrible Donald Trump. An example when we talk about him and that is the housing crisis. Remember where Donald Trump was in this in 2007 before the big explosion in 2008. Now what she's going to talk about here is based on an audio recording before the housing crisis and before anyone knew what that really meant it was a you know it was a bubble on Wall Street as different from you know the economy was destroyed and we had to bail out the banks But she's turning this around and this is her one example is very weak. Especially because she's lying. I disagree. It is, technically it's weak. But the way she presents it is very strong. I think she does a very good job. Oh, absolutely, John. But she's lying. But she's doing a very good job. She's lying. She's the one who keeps talking about Rachel and those robocalls. By the way, I do this on Twitter constantly. Every time some from Herx shows up on my Twitter feed, I always write,

21:50 back to her saying, what are you going to do about those robocalls you promised to stop? I just got a call from Rachel. Yeah. The big explosion in 2008, a lot of people are starting to look around and say, whoa, we've got an inflated bubble here. There's going to be trouble coming. And Donald Trump said, was quoted, he was excited for the crash because he knew how to make money off it. He was rooting for an economic crash because it was going to help line his pockets. What kind of a person does something like that? What kind of a person roots for people to be kicked out of their home? What kind of a person does that? It's a person who

22:31 is an insecure money grubber who cares about nothing but himself. He doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he makes a profit off it. That cannot, cannot be the man who leads the United States of America. And of course you'd expect Rachel Maddow to follow up with, so glad that you were there to protect the American citizens. How many bankers did we throw in jail from this horrible, horrible event? Oh, let me think. Yeah, pretty much a zero. Now we go over to CBS. Now we're starting to ratchet it up. This is Nancy Giles, I think? She's a CBS... I think she's a commentator for the morning show. So she's not really a journalist.

23:12 I don't know. She's going for the jugular in ways that, actually I'm now seeing Hillary Clinton in her own way kind of lay out her case against his temperament. And I love the fact that she's using his own language against him. I think that's probably the most effective way because he's, I think, clinically insane. I mean, I really do.

23:51 Yeah, I'm not alone. There's a lot of clinicians who have been speculating about that. I want to see more psychologists and psychiatrists evaluating him from a mental health point of view. I really feel like, you know, I've written the Times and said, come on, you know, this is more important than the women. Oh, she wrote to Time magazine. Is that what she said? Oh, come on. She said that she likes Elizabeth Warren because she tells it like it is. She shoots from the hip. She had all these things that Trump does. does, but it's okay if she does it. The point of my clip here is for her saying, I really believe he's clinically insane and we need more psychologists evaluating this. And we got exactly what she wished for in the form of Deepak Chopra. I've been waiting for him to show up.

24:39 Didn't we talk about him recently? No, I'm always talking about him. We talked about him in relationship to reality because he doesn't believe anything exists, which is funny. Yeah, because if he's going to come out and talk about it, why does he care? Wow, that's crazy. So, wait, so Deepak Chopra is one of these guys who says we're probably in a simulation, reality doesn't exist. Yeah, he pretty much does not believe in reality. Well, he's got a reality on Donald Trump, that's for sure. You had a piece out and have a piece out that just was published in the San Francisco Chronicle about the psyche of Donald Trump and the whole explanation of what it is he appeals to. And you mentioned the phrase, the shadow. What is your take on what's going on here? The shadow is that part of ourselves that we are ashamed of, that we feel guilty about.

25:26 and everyone has a shadow, and if you ignore the shadow, then it says you're ignoring me, I'm going to embarrass you. Donald Trump at the moment is in a way representing the shadow of our collective consciousness. He is unfortunately, and you know I would never say this unless I believe to be 100% true, but he represents the racist, the bigot, the one who's prejudiced, the one who is full of fear and hatred, the one who represents emotional retardation of a three-year-old, and yet he's so popular because he's given permission to our collective psyche

26:14 To express their darkest demons now is he all the things you mentioned is he racist is he mentally wait for it? Retarded as you said or see just someone who represent since when can you use the R word now these days? What's up with that first to Trump? It's great. Yeah, when she had with you when it's Trump. You can call him a retard. Yeah tard Retarded as you said or I'm gonna try this out with I'm you know I run into robots all the time and Man, Trump's retarded, ain't he? Let's see if they say anything. If you do it with less enthusiasm, I think you might be able to see what... Okay, let me try it again. Wow, man, that Trump is really a retard. How about that? Instead of retard, I'll call him a... Let's think about this because I think you might be onto something here. How would you present it? He's a retard.

27:06 How about doing it as kind of a reluctant? We're doing acting class here. Okay. All right. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. What's my motivation? Well, your motivation is to elicit a response that then you can condemn. Yeah, but that's not how method acting works. I need motivation. Who am I? Well, you want to I think you want to show... here's what you want... here you are. You are saddened because people do think maybe you're a Trump supporter and you're saddened that as far as you can tell he's retarded. And you're expressing this dishonesty to this other person. Why don't I do this? I was watching

27:52 I consider him to be a guru, my guru. I've learned so much from Deepak Chopra. Ah, you can get away with that. Right? Right. Yeah. I think you might be able to pull that, pull that bull crap off. You like that? Okay. Yeah. I'm very, very in touch with the universe as Deepak Chopra communicates it. No, no, no, no. Now you're just saying. Too much, too much, too much. Okay, I'll dial it back. Let me try again. Wow, I saw an interview with my, well, I'd call him my personal guru. I don't think you should go that far. A guy I respect. A guy you respect. Respect. You know, I was watching Deepak Chopra. I really respect this guy, you know, guru to a lot of people. And he said that he 100%, because he wouldn't say it if he didn't mean it. And he even reiterated that. He says Trump is a retard. And I'm thinking like, yeah, the mental retardation of a three-year-old.

28:43 Doesn't have a bail no emotional retardation. I think you said emotional retardation Yes, and then they should say oh man. You can't use the r-word. No. They won't say that that's what you're trying to write I know I'll record it then you can call them out. Yes, how come it's okay for me to do that to use this door word That's when I rip off my mask Ha I got you old bot More from Chopra. It's a possibility. I think you can do this. Well, let's listen to Morf. What they should say if they're honest to these pledges they've made just to political correctness, they should say, well, you know, it may be true, but it's not really a word I would like to use or hear used. I'll be the Obot if I was honest to political correctness. All right, all right, here we go. You're the Obot. Not dishonest. Hey, Obot, how you doing?

29:38 I'm good. Obama's gonna win again. Third term. Third term for Obama. Man, I was watching Deepak Chopra. Oh yeah, he's great. I have a lot of respect for him. He's guru to like a lot of leaders and stuff and he's met pretty much everybody. He was talking about Trump. Yeah. And he said 100% sure and he even reiterated he would not say this unless he was 100% sure. He says Donald Trump is a retard. He has the emotional retardation of a three-year-old. Hold off here. You can't use that word. That's nonsense. That's terrible. We do not use the word retard. That'll never happen. That'll never happen. Let's listen to the rest of Deepak Chopra.

30:20 You mentioned is he racist, is he mentally retarded as you said or is he just someone who represents that? But is he those things? I think he is. I think he's racist, he's bigoted, he's prejudiced, he's full of fear, he is angry, he has a lot of hatred, he pouts, he's belligerent. He's emotionally retarded. Yes And yet why is it that he appeals to so many and has just about clinched the Republican nomination? This is actually a great follow-on because his followers are retarded. Yeah, right Denominator in our collective psyche brings out the worst

31:02 in all of us. For example, what I said just now, I would never say these things about anybody. Okay? I would never say this. It's not like you. Yeah, it's not like me, but he's bringing out the worst in me because I too am fearful of what would happen to the United States of America and the rest of the world if God forbid He became the president. God forbid he was in charge of the nuclear weaponry. God forbid he was the commander-in-chief of the largest army in the world. We're all gonna die! That's right. Thank you, Deepak. There you go. We're all gonna die. And Donald Trump is insane. That's good. I think they're doing their job. Yes.

31:50 Okay, so there were a lot of was that by the way that was a Spring deepak Chopra on as a political analyst this fantastic It was it was a radio show. I have to look it up here. I can tell you what it was It's the progressive commentary hour on the progressive... Again, they're preaching to the choir. No, I'm sorry, that's not it. It was something else. Anyway, yes, they're preaching to the choir. They're still preaching to the choir. It's like MSNBC. Who's watching that show that's going to change? Well, I'm going to tell you. I was watching MSNBC. I have two more clips from the half-hour sit-down with Rachel Maddow and

32:31 Elizabeth Warren. By the way, Pocahontas.com now forwards to ElizabethWarren.com. I thought that was pretty cute. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Okay, let's now. Now this was. Pretty much her pitch for her to be in the fight, whatever that means. Rachel asked many times, you know, are you gonna be VP? Are you on the VP list? Blah blah blah. The only thing she mentioned at the very end is yes, I could do the job if the president, God forbid. Interesting how Rachel Maddow and everyone, whenever it comes to the president dying, it's always God forbid. I don't know when she got religion all of a sudden. It's always God forbid. Oh God forbid. You heard it in that clip too. God forbid.

33:10 So here she is a whole bunch of atheists. Yes here. She is selling her soul to Satan We have gone 240 years in this country without a woman ever being nominated for president let alone elected one. Yeah, that's not true No, I know it's complete. It's completely really Chisholm. We got what's-her-name from the Green Party Stein? Yeah, we have a bunch of women have run. Yeah, but we're nominated But remember as the president said we need a strong two-party system, which is un-american To say that is even un-American. Her aggression and her stance as a fighter in politics, does that make her more palatable to a country who apparently has a real problem with this concept? Oh, of a strong woman? Thanks, Rachel! Or less? Does that make it harder for her? You know, to me, this isn't about palatable anymore. This is about what we need to survive.

34:01 We need this to survive. This is about whether or not we are going to die. Yeah. A country that just works for the Donald Trump's of the world, that just works for a handful of the largest corporations in the world or a country that really is building an economic future for all of us. And yes, I think having a fighter in the lead, a female fighter in the lead is exactly what this country needs. Okey dokey. Just so you know where she's coming from. There has to be a female fighter in the lead. Yeah. Has to be a female fighter. And then, this is the last clip I have of this, but just listen to him. Has Hillary Clinton talked to you about the prospect of being... This is before she met with Clinton. Her running mate. Have you been vetted? No. Have you... No. No conversations? No.

34:49 Am I supposed to ask it more broadly? Have her people talk to your people? I don't think so. You know, look, I know there's been a lot of speculation about this. Look, I love that. There's a lot of speculation about this. Now, the people of Massachusetts may want to be a little perturbed by her next statement. The truth is, I love the work I do. I can't tell you how grateful I am to the people of Massachusetts who sent me here to just wade into these fights. Is that why the people of Massachusetts sent you there, Elizabeth Warren? To wade into fights? To wade into fights or maybe to represent their interests at a federal level. No, they chose her to wade into fights.

35:34 Well, screw you, Massachusetts. that pits a tough woman who is willing to lead against a small, insecure bully who thinks he's gonna get his way by throwing nasty tantrums, by giving people ugly names, by saying racist and other kinds of outrageous things. And we just can't let him be the leader of this country.

36:13 We can line up, we can be part of Hillary Clinton's effort to be the President of the United States and to help do the things we care about in this country. To really help build a future. Like getting rid of robocalls? Yeah, I got a couple the other day myself. And it's all from Silicon Valley these days. Do you want your business to be top ranked on Google? I get the same too. I get one for my auto Warranty my warranty is running out my warranties running at the car is 25 years old My credit cards I give what credit cards Warranties running out yeah

37:04 Right. So, well, anyway, Elizabeth Warren talks about a fight. She uses the biggest fight. She talks about fight, fight, fight, which is, you know, it would be more appropriate probably, she says, political fight. But she's talking about fight and the backdrop of what will happen in Philadelphia, considering this new information, the fight may be in your own backyard, Ms. Warren. Hundreds of Bernie Sanders protesters expected at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia next month will be camping out in South Jersey. The Timberlane campground in Clarksboro, Gloucester County and Old Cedar campground in Monroeville, Salem County have already sold out their 10 NRV sites to the pro-Sanders supporters. That's according to one of the organizers of a group called Occupy DNC Convention. She also tells us bus

37:48 Buses are booked to take the group to and from the protests at FDR Park in South Philly. That's right across from the Wells Fargo Center where the convention will take place. Okay, well I'll tell you this, couple things. The Democrats are much better at doing this sort of riots and protests and all that. They have experience. They have more experience. They have experience and they're so reminiscent of the 68 convention. Only now we have RVs, only now we have RVs, glampers coming to protest. But, so it should be good. It should be, I mean, if they have their act together, it should be pretty dynamite. Now, the other thing is that locally we had the event in, I guess, in the peninsula where, where San Jose, where Trump, where there are anti-Trump protests, which were all Democrats, again. And reportedly Craigslist ad answerers. And they were all from a Craigslist ad. They were hired to do this. And a couple of people were injured and beaten up.

38:49 Now, it seems to me that if you hire somebody and they beat somebody up, you're a liable. Where's the work being done on finding out who hired these people and putting them in this? No, no, no, John, no. No. It's not going to happen. If I was in law enforcement, that's exactly who I'd go after. Yeah, yeah. Well, no. There were a number of big breaking articles about Hillary Clinton from surprising sources. And these are, I don't know if we'll get to pick these back up, certainly not today with this shooting. And one came from Associated Press.

39:29 And that came just before a big one from ABC. If you don't mind, I'll play the first revelation from Associated Press. The Associated Press just broke news hours ago that there's a chance that Hillary Clinton emails could have exposed the identities of CIA operatives. There's a chance that that could have happened. They also mentioned AIDS having to unplug the server when there was potentially hackers going into the State Department. There's a lot of new details breaking. And this was a Wall Street Journal Had had this front and center that well, it's in the ABC report Which is I think even a little bit better as they came up with two pieces of breaking news now Now first of all for AP to come up with this and AP helped Hillary Clinton clinch the nomination by Rigging the process democratic primary process and

40:19 And so for them to come out and now say, oh, well, you know, we've got this scoob, something's wrong. But then there was the Intelligence Board issue. ABC reports. Members of the State Department's International Security Advisory Board include some of the country's most prominent figures on American nuclear strategy, all with top secret clearances. But in 2011, the Clinton State Department also added this man, Rajiv Fernando, a wealthy Chicago commodities broker with no known connection to the national security world. I'd like to invite to the stage Raj Fernando. What he was known for before and after his appointment was raising and giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns and as much as $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation. But now the new set of State Department emails obtained after a lawsuit brought by Citizens United reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor. Have you seen pictures of Cheryl Mills?

41:20 I probably better... Oh my... They make her look like a just a horrible a... I mean she's really as a resting bitch face. The pictures of her are not flattering. The big donor with a senior career... That's for a reason. Sorry? I said that's for a reason. Well, they used it in this report, so yeah. Reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor with a senior career official using the shorthand S, a common reference to Secretary Clinton. The true answer is simply that S staff, Cheryl Mills, added him. Raj was not on the list sent to S. He was added at their insistence.

42:04 where they confront, where they... I'm just saying, I'm looking at her pictures, I've seen her before. She's a very officious kind of a looking person, black. Yeah, but she has a resting bitch face. And so here's the follow-up to this ABC report. Now they really go out and... Very bad optics, the way this... the way this story unfolds. Members of the State Department's International Security Advisory Board include some of the country's most prominent figures on American nuclear strategy, all with top secret clearances. But in 2011, the Clinton State Department also added this man, Rajiv Fernando, a wealthy Chicago commodities broker with no known connection to the national security world. I'd like to invite to the stage Rajiv Fernando. Sorry for the repeat.

42:51 What he was known for before and after his appointment was raising and giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns and as much as $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation. When we approached Fernando at the 2012 Democratic Convention... He became upset and we were threatened with arrest. I'll be arrested for asking questions of this man? But now the new set of State Department emails obtained after a lawsuit brought by Citizens United reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor with a senior career official using the shorthand S, a common reference to Secretary Clinton.

43:39 The true answer is simply that S staff, Cheryl Mills, added him. Raj was not on the list sent to S. He was added at their insistence. I don't know who will be giving money. At her confirmation hearing, Clinton vowed foundation donors would not receive special treatment. That will not influence, it will not be in the atmosphere. The new Clinton emails also show that when ABC began asking questions about the appointment of Fernando in 2011, top Clinton aide Cheryl Mills asked the press officer to stall for 24 hours. The very next day, Fernando submitted his resignation from the prestigious board. Oops. The Clinton campaign declined to comment on our story and the State Department said it's not unusual for the Secretary's Chief of Staff to play a role. As for Fernando, he has continued to raise big dollars for the Clinton campaign and has given more than a million dollars to the Clinton Foundation. In fact, he'll be one of her superdelegates

44:33 at next month's convention, Amy. And Brian, this morning there is another new report about Hillary's emails on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, linking them to some potentially sensitive messages about drone strikes overseas. That's right. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the ongoing FBI investigation is focusing on these messages sent by American diplomats in Pakistan about pending drone attacks which ended up on her personal email server. The journal also says the messages were vaguely worded and did not use the term CIA or drone. ABC News has not been able to independently confirm the general's report, Amy. That would be a pretty bad one.

45:11 Well, I'm sure worse than that. The Russians would just come out and just roll some of this stuff out for us. It would simplify a lot easier. Well, maybe they're doing that in the background. Why would he could be the Russians behind this? You never know. But ABC, ABC, all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, ABC. Of course, this is still hard. ABC is just the toughest of the three networks to figure out what they're up to. I mean, it's not like CBS. CBS is just Hillary. Yeah. You know, they're just front men for Hillary. But ABC's got other stuff going on. This came up at the State Department briefing. And of course, we have the spokes whole roulette these days. Don't whatever you do, don't let the same person be there two days in a row because they get they mess it up and then we get annoying questions.

45:58 Of course, this came up about the National Security Advisory Board in the briefing. So, Mr. Fernando, he was appointed to the board that seems to have puzzled even some State Department employees. If he was at all qualified, why did he resign so suddenly after ABC News started asking questions? I mean, you'd have to ask him. I mean, look, all I know and can say about this story—and I've read the story, obviously—is is looking at he served on the international security advisory board. And that was established to provide State Department with independent insight and advice on different international security matters.

46:46 The board should reflect according to its charter, balance of background, points of view. So he was chosen as part of that process of trying to choose members that represent abroad. range of views, I assume. I don't have any more details into his selection process and I certainly don't have any details into why he resigned so briefly or so quickly after he was appointed. Does the state have any concerns that the decision to appoint him was purely political, was without any national security considerations? Do we have concerns that it was purely politically motivated? No, I don't think so. It's not unusual for

47:32 As I said, a broad range of individuals to be vetted and chosen for these kinds of positions. Okay. Has he had any other engagements or encounters with the State Department prior to the ISAB appointment? Good question. I'm not sure what his... I apologize. I don't know. You're talking about whether he had worked for. No tab. No tab. It would be funny if he just answered. I don't have a tab for that. I'll see if I can get you any information about that. I don't have it in front of me. Okay. Yeah. Are there any other appointments made by Secretary Clinton's chief of staff or Secretary Clinton herself that the State Department had any concerns about or that

48:26 No, not that I'm aware of. Oh, be careful, be careful. You're gonna have to edit that out when you say no. Now I have a three minute clip from Charles Ortel. I think he did a good job saying not that I'm aware of. Yeah, he did say I'm aware of, you're right. Now, Charles Ortel, who you introduced us to, he is doing everything he can. He's doing podcasts. This guy, yeah, kind of great, but sad because here's a guy who is a financial analyst. As far as we know, he has no political dog in the hunt and he's saying things are not okay with the Clinton Foundation. And there's this- He's got a book.

49:10 This is a book, right? Yeah, he's got a book out. Of course he's got a book, yeah. So this three minute clip, he explains, and Tina was listening to this, you know, she works at Ronald McDonald House Charities, she said, wait, how is this possible? How can any foundation switch their mission and not have official audits. Because she does the 990 and has to make sure they get all four stars, a charity navigator. So she's deep into this. She was so appalled by what he had to say. But then when you hear how they steal the money or allegedly steal the money, it's such a simple system. So if you don't mind, it's long, but I think this guy's worth it. I love listening to this. Sure.

49:50 biggest donor declared donor to the clinton foundation is a entity that that most people have not heard of i only found out about it march two thousand fifteen then it'll be called a unit a u n i t a i d and that was an entity that was created uh... by the book the world's temperate two thousand six became fully operational november two thousand six uh... and the concept behind it was Various governments, principally, would agree to allow annual subs to be funneled into a central pot in Geneva that would be housed within the World Health Organization. And from this central pot, the administrators would work, of UNITAID, would work with validly constituted charities.

50:39 to help primarily people who live in the poorest countries of the world, the lowest annual level of income measured by the international government organizations. So it was born, the money started flowing in November of 2006. All told, I mentioned $2 billion has been declared as having been sent, received actually by the Clinton Foundation, and it's existed. $600 million or so. came from this Unitaid. That was by far and away the largest donor. Now, Unitaid's books and accounts are not validly audited either. They do have an audit, what they call an audit, but it's not really done by an independent party, truly independent party.

51:24 And, nonetheless, they produce annual reports, which are available online, and they produce glossy annual brochures, which are also available online. From those reports, and supposedly the financials for the Unitaid books are done in U.S. dollars. on the same accrual method of accounting that the Clinton Foundation uses, you compare year by year what Unicage says it sent towards the Clinton Foundation to the information in the Clinton Foundation reports and you find variations in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And in particular, in the period 2007-8 when Hillary Clinton was running

52:08 for office at the first time as president uh... there's about a hundred million dollars missing that is to say a hundred million more was declared as having been sent to the clinton foundation that the clinton bank foundation books show it's having been received that's the first level of the problem the next level of the problem is But the entity that was supposed to receive this money from Unitaid is an entity called Clinton Foundation HIV AIDS Initiative, Inc. period, which was an Arkansas corporation operated primarily for Massachusetts, but operated illegally.

52:44 because it never validly got an IRS approval, it never validly submitted the kinds of reports that it would have to have submitted, and it had its license to operate in its key home state where its key personnel were based. It voluntarily revoked on the 31st of March 2008 with a check from December 31st 2007. All this information that I just gave you and your listeners is available online. Go to Unitaid.gov UNITAID, just Google that with financial report, annual report, you'll see what I'm talking about on the numbers. I gave you the name of the Clinton Foundation entity. You'll see in the UNITAID reports, they show that that's the entity that was supposed to get the money. They'll go on the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Attorney General Charity Bureau site and you will see hard and fast evidence of what I told you, that this charity's license to operate was involuntarily revoked.

53:42 And so there's no way lawfully that you could have transferred this money from the imitate to the Clinton Foundation in 2008. Couldn't have done it yet. They say about 100 million more is listed as having sent to them than was received. So what happened to that money? It seems pretty easy to me. What are they doing with the money? Um, I was thinking about this. You know, the Clinton Foundation, which has developed into this crazy thing that we're discussing, probably an illegal operation of some sort, according to this guy. Well, you know, well, earlier...and I encourage everyone to listen to the whole interview. It's in the show notes. You can find it under Clips and Docs. Earlier in the interview, he says, when you start a 5013C foundation, you have to say what it's for and you have to stick to those goals. And it was presidential library. Right. And that was pretty much it.

54:40 And they switch to, you know, HIV, AIDS, Haiti, and oh man, Haiti he claims it's 14 billion that has gone missing. I wouldn't be surprised. No. I don't know what he's doing with the money, but... I do know, I did notice one interesting thing. Besides the fact that George W. Bush was involved in the Haiti scam. And their own foundation, which is not called the Bush Foundation, but something else. We looked that up. Because you recall they said, send us cash, not blankets or water. There was three presidents doing this for Haiti. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.

55:19 Just send your cash. And because they didn't have a receiving entity set up, and they were open about it, they said, no, it's coming into the Clinton Foundation, into this, it's like the, I'll have to look it up, the Jordan. It's like using your personal bank account. Yeah. And we were just saying something about, but right now it's just going to go to my bank account. Yeah, just. This all, I don't want, you know, this, Is it possible that the Clinton Foundation is some radically large and protected? I would say it's protected because... Well, we know the IRS works for the administration. Is it possibly a massive money laundering operation and US... the United... United... Well, you know what I'm worried about... Let me just finish this one thought. Sure.

56:08 This all began, because it was the Clinton library, even though that was kind of shady too. And don't forget the MENA operation that Bill had something to do with. And some of the other corruption that went on, including their redevelopment agency in Arkansas itself during his governorship is very suspect and there's been specials written about that. But this all began in a big way when Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush all of a sudden became good buddies. If you remember that little period of time where they were hanging out together doing all this stuff, and George H.W. Bush, of course, is one of the ex-heads of the CIA. It just seems like too many coincidences going on at once.

56:54 There's an interesting documentary or kind of a documentary-like film, ask more questions than it answers, about the banker suicides. I actually had a short conversation with my former New York banker friend this morning over email. And this documentary claims that these were not suicides, but they were murders. And the implication is drug laundering money. And I'm thinking, if you take into account the amounts of money, you take into account the theaters of operation of the Clinton Foundation, their connection to Wall Street, and as you say, why is this being protected? I mean, I'm still convinced that, you know, drugs is the biggest commodity in the world, and that's what all the money is about, and that's what kept the United States afloat. I mean, it's bigger than oil.

57:45 as a commodity, price-wise or profit-wise maybe I should say. Yeah, profit-wise. And so maybe it's all connected and of course then it'll never come out. No. Ever. Of course not, everybody's behind it. Bankers, the agencies. Ever. No. Yeah. And that's why this thing sits there, they, yeah, hey you want to file some paperwork? Eh, who cares? What are they gonna do? I mean there's no paperwork, this thing is just ridiculous. I don't even know how much the Clintons get out of it. I mean, sure they get something out of it, but I don't see that they're buying castles in Italy. And Hillary is a huge, obviously the big representative in this election of the banks. She is the banker's gal. So then she's going to be protected. Hillary's fine. She's one of us.

58:44 It's like a bunch of mobsters competing with each other. And of course, you know, there's evidence, not evidence. Well, there may be evidence that, you know, Trump is like another part of a different gang. Oh yeah, I was totally part of the gang. He's part of the Gambino family, according to some people who... Really? The Gambino crime family. Nice. Yeah. Excellent. So you can't, you know, this whole thing, this is, I think the whole country, we've got to the point of massive corruption. Yeah, and it's so big. And drugs are all behind it, and you have your Afghanistan operation going on. That's where the drugs and the heroin and stuff is coming from. And that's not doing anybody any good. And that's run by the agency, according to anyone who has a, you know, kind of looks into it. And that movie, I think, what was the name of that movie? Public Enemy or whatever it was, which was a true story starring Denzel Washington.

59:41 Enemy of the state? Enemy of the state? Is it enemy of the state? I think it's enemy of the state. Kingpin out of Vietnam running this drug. Oh no, that's American drug lord. American gangster. American gangster, yes, there it is. Where they were smuggling the drugs back from Afghanistan in coffins. Yeah, that was based on a true story. So yeah, this is a disaster. By the way, just Pocahontas and Elizabeth Warren, one of our producers who asked not to be named, said that Harvard has a law when it comes to minorities. You have to be able to a prove that you know you're at least You have connection bloodline connection, but as the second part of that you have to show that you regularly participate in Native American Events and keep in touch with your tribe, which is an extra requirement above and beyond any other affirmative act affirmative action hiring or admission, but she never showed that and she doesn't she doesn't keep in touch with her tribe and

1:00:46 I've seen that. She didn't run her out. And thank you, by the way, for the newsletter about that with all of the political cartoons from four years ago making fun of her with headdresses on and all kinds of feathers missing like, oops, didn't quite make it, girl. Yeah. Yeah, this was like a big deal. Everyone was talking about it. But now Trump calls her Pocahontas, stealing our line. Of course, we've been calling her that for a couple of years. And he's like the bad guy. He's racist. Not that we're defending Trump. Please. It's like you can't help it. Please don't do that. Well, there's some, the administration or the administration in general is very confused about a lot of things that Donald Trump is talking about. Nancy Pelosi's had some real zingers. We'll talk about one of those later in tech news, but here's what she said about Trump and his wall. Do you think that the US and Mexico border is secure?

1:01:41 I think it's important to note that there are more... I just took a delegation, bipartisan delegation to Mexico and migration was one of our issues. Donkey show. TPP, national security always first and foremost. The blue fogs. And the fact is that we have a negative migration. More people are going back to Mexico than are coming into our country. I keep hearing this. Is this really true? I don't know. I think it might be true at some point, you know, here and there, but I think no, it's bullcrap. And the idea of building a wall there, a barrier rather than a bridge. Anyone familiar with the region, and I am to a certain extent many times to El Paso or Laredo or McAllen or other spaces along the border.

1:02:33 Go to El Paso. It's a community with a border running through it. Yeah, with a fence by the way, a real fence that you can't just hop over. People come back and forth and buy their groceries, see their families, some go to school. It is a beautiful sight to behold, I have to say. So the thought of building a wall there is is wrong and people in Mexico have concerns about what that means in terms of disrespect for them. I don't see many people writing about the fact that there are more people going back to Mexico than coming in into the United States. I'm very happy Nancy Pelosi is so incredibly in tune with what's going on in Texas, particularly El Paso. There is, you should look at the Narcos documentaries called Narcos. Take a look at what's going on in El Paso specifically and there's a nice, well it's chain link but it's as high as a wall.

1:03:31 wall. And it's definitely a barrier. But here's what's annoying. So she says, crazy, we don't need this. Everything works great. And Texas, I went down to the border, El Paso, Laredo, you went to Texas, is what you did. Why don't we talk to the man who's from Texas, who is a The chief of the intelligence committee speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations, our buddy, Congressman McCaul here from Texas. Let's hear what he has to say about what you just mentioned, Ms. Pelosi. What's the criteria that will finally let us know when we have a secure border? Thank you. It's when we can gain operational control. Oh, we have no control. You can define that in many ways, but right now we're catching less than half.

1:04:15 of what's coming in. And you know, what Bob and I worry about is what's coming in that we don't know about. We do know we're apprehending other than Mexicans, special interest aliens. from countries of interest that concern us. We're apprehending them, but how many have already gotten into this country? And I think that's one of the biggest concerns. I believe, and I had a bill that we got out of my committee that is a multi-layered approach to basically create a barrier to prevent illegal aliens, but also potential terrorists from coming into the United States. Notice he says barrier. That involves not just fencing,

1:04:52 Although fencing is important, infrastructure, but also technology and aviation assets and manpower. Jesse, this is the problem with Trump's wall. It's way too old school. We can't bring in our buddies like McCall is going to do here. We need the technology. We need drones. We need airplanes. We need night vision goggles. Yeah, we need NVGs. We need eye in the sky. Boots on the ground to respond. One important program we passed was the Department of Defense transferring excess surplus property like aerostats

1:05:28 from Afghanistan to the southwest border. So we have that visibility. Right now, we can't see 100% what's happening on the ground. If you can't see what's happening, it's very difficult to respond to it. So I think the answer is when we achieve operational control, we're far from that right now. Sounds to me like we have an issue at the border. And if we take into account what you just said about the gang members, you have the Bush and the Clintons, let's just, you know, total theorization. Let's think Clinton and the Bushes are in one gang, and it's a big narco gang. Now if Trump is indeed with the Gambino crime family, two things would be possible with this wall. This is why, this is the prize, it's not about illegals, no, no, it's about the drugs. Why does 50% still get in? Because of the drugs. All the cocaine and heroin comes from Mexico in the United States.

1:06:18 That's where it's coming from. That's where it currently is coming from. Yeah. So, uh, the, the Trump gang could say, maybe, I don't know, the Gambinos, they used to have code like, hey man, we don't do drugs. You know, we do garbage. We do, we do all kinds of other racketeering, but you know, we don't want to do drugs. It could be, hey, these drugs are ruining everything or, hey, maybe we could get in on this action. We'll have two doors perhaps. Yeah, if you get the wall, you can have the, you'll be in control of what gets across. Yeah. That's your big, beautiful door. So it's possible, it's possible either way. Certainly one thing's for sure. If you really want control of the United States, control the drug supply. And I'm not just talking about pharmaceuticals. That's how you control everything. Yeah. This country uses too many drugs. Everyone's all drugged up. I have, let's see. Oh, your pal, Barbara Boxer was on that Bill Maher.

1:07:23 And I had a good chance to observe her. She did the opening interview when you come in and sit down. First of all, that thing at the beginning, your interaction with her, she seems to be a little person almost with very short arms. Have you noticed this or do you remember her being I never interacted with her that much I've interacted with Feinstein maybe a couple times these women these were Boxer boxer not Feinstein box. I know I say you know I'm sorry Stan They were both on the bonds are advisory board or the air air air resource board whatever the hell they called it The kangaroo court is what it was well

1:08:04 She is she's ready of course to support Hillary Clinton now if you have a chance if you have well I noticed a couple things one She is wearing, and you have to look out for this, she has a big gaudy kind of necklace on, silver, and then below that a chain, and the chain is a little silver Hillary H with the arrow through it. So be on the lookout for this as a fashion accessory. She probably gave it to everybody, you know. Nice spot. Yeah, and it could have an RFID something in it, you know, to track these crazy people. That's what I would do. That's what I would be doing. Or you can activate it.

1:08:39 Yeah, Hillary Clinton! Hey, Barbara! I was thinking, I think, you know, I'm so pleased with everything you've done for the campaign. I want you to have this and please wear and display this proudly. And then she goes on Bill Maher and then it's like, yes! Hillary for president! That thing could just be a mind control device. Here she is on Hillary. Oh, I also want to mention, she has so much Botox in her head that only her mouth moves. Uh, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, nothing.

1:09:16 Everything except this hole in her face and her eyes blink, but that's it. It's very very scary. Her eyes blink. Oh, it's scary to look at. So what do you think about Elizabeth Warren? I mean she came out very strong yesterday. She was all over TV. I felt she kind of overshadowed Hillary Clinton. I kind of thought well this is not going to happen because... Good observation from her. I guess Hillary sees this and goes, ugh. I don't want to be on a ticket with somebody who everybody's saying should be at the top. Oh no. No. Come on girlfriend. No! Come on girlfriend. Girlfriend! She was supportive of Hillary. She was, but she looked better than Hillary. That's my point. For... She, she, come on. She looked better. She's just a better natural politician. Look, here's the deal. Look, look, here's the deal. She's not someone... Exactly.

1:10:09 People say to me she's not authentic. She is I agree an authentically hard-working woman who writes for sleeves and She also had a quick little blurb on Bill Maher asked, how come all of you liberals, how come you didn't support the legal marijuana? Was it Prop 19 I think in California? Yeah, that's a good question. It's a good question, not great, it's a good one. Glass-Steagall, gay marriage, I think you're only one of eight to defend gay marriage.

1:10:49 The one time I was hoping you would come out for something I wanted was Prop 19 in 2010. It was on the ballot to legalize marijuana. It lost narrowly. No Democrat in this state defended it. But here it is, six years later. What do you think? Well... Times come for the wacky weed, Senator. Come on. I'm actually going to surprise you. I'm leaning in favor. Oh! She's leaning. Is that a call? Like, hey, somebody better send a check. I'm leaning. Hello. Hello, Trayvon. I can push you right over after the show.

1:11:34 No violence. No, no, no. God. There's just one. No violence, is that what she said? Well, so he taps her and pushes her like I can push you right over the edge. You go, no violence, no physical contact. No violence. No, no. There's just one issue that's a serious one I'm looking at. Ah. Which is worrisome from Colorado and Washington State where they've seen. She sounds a little coked up. Do you hear that? Yeah, it's possible. Washington state. From Colorado to Washington state where they've seen fatalities drive... Oh bull crap! No, it's true! Facts! Be quiet, it's real! Private fatalities go up, but there is something in the initiative that does address it so I'm hoping I'll be able to support this. Most of the driver fatalities... Can't die. Say what? Yeah, it's in the initiative, can't die. No.

1:12:30 So I'm hoping I'll be able to support this stuff. Most of the driver fatalities are from alcohol, which has always been legal. Well, not always. I mean, come on. It's just not fair. You know what? It's not fair. There are more. It's also bullcrap. And let me mention something that Mimi has noticed in Washington state where it's all legalized. Yeah. And I think everyone will vouch for this. The people who get stoned on grass and drive around, drive around super cautiously, usually too slow. If anybody gets killed it's because they got rear-ended. They're not driving around like maniacs.

1:13:11 So this is bullcrap. This is just part of the propaganda. You know what? It's not fair. There are more driver fatalities. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's just than there were before. But we can address it. We need to figure out how, you know, the breathalyzer idea, the blood test idea. This is what's interesting. I don't think they really have a way or a... There's no way. There's no model that says... No, you have to take blood and it still doesn't tell you... But even then, there's no model. What is too much anything there is a there is an opportunity here if somebody wants to start a little company? Just like that like that woman with who just got busted for doing the blood testing thing that doesn't work. Ah Toronto's a little prick you know a little deke a little Needle prick and then you take some blood if you can do a marijuana thing with that nice you will make billions

1:14:02 Yes. Yes, I agree. And once we do that, but anyhow, I am leaning. Okay. I'm glad. Send checks. Just to put you on a short leg. I drive better when I'm stoned. Don't drive stoned. Well, you know, I have standing in this area and I have done tests and it is very possible for me at least to do complicated feats while stoned. But it was a while ago that I tried it. What complicated feats are we talking about? Flying a helicopter. Oh yeah, I did it under supervision of my commercial instructor at the time. As a test. As a test and he said, hey light one of those up. You might have to fly stone someday. He said, light one of those up and let's go fly. I'm like, okay, hold on. And best landing ever. A lot of people find it helps their concentration. Very, very helpful.

1:15:01 Now I don't know what I would do in an emergency. I bet you know there's like whoops probably scream like a lady. It's like Done anyway, yeah, man. We have so much to go through Do you have something we can slip in or you want to thank some people or I think we should thank some people? It's about time. Oh, but wait what I never opened my email. That's funny well again I'll do the little noise here and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you John C with us. He stands for can't see my spreadsheet. Devorah. Well in the morning you mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there in the morning everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm good dab y'all here listening to us live thank you very much to mark G now mark G is one of our artists and he provided the album art for episode 832 sis sexist hick story and that we got so many compliments about this album art and

1:16:03 It reminded me a bit of the cover for the... you remember that band The Power Station? Had a couple of Duranis in it. So it's a high-heeled shoe trying to pick up from the pavement apparently, and there's some pink gum with the face of Bernie Sanders in there, which is hearkening back to the... he's like gum under Hillary's shoe. And I want to say, Mark G., he's a pro. He's a professional artist, and he's been out of work for quite a while. Yeah, he was complaining to us in email. Yeah, but that's messed up. This guy is good. He's definitely got the touch for doing conceptual stuff with the... We try to look for stuff that's dimension... I always say this, you guys are full of crap, but we look for stuff that's dimensional. So it makes a point and it's got sub points that it makes. And the cool thing about the gum was the little, little Bernie head in there.

1:17:00 If it didn't have the Bernie head, it wouldn't have gotten anywhere. But Mark is good, man. This guy is good. So I want to give him a little jobs karma just at the top here because this is crazy. This guy has a great portfolio. You can see it actually at noagendaartgenerator.com. So even though selfishly we'd like him to be around to do lots of art for us, we sure want to give him some jobs karma. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. a palindrome donation and we had offered two of them. There was the one that I thought was very interesting, which was 61116, which was Saturday's date. Today's a palindrome too, which is 61216.

1:17:59 But the one that they both picked which was 61616 which is very jazzy sounding and it's Saturday. It's the Thursday show on Thursday. We have 61616 is the date. Yeah, beautiful. And so they so Toby Kobe hung Sir Kobe hung in Hong Kong and Sir Dwayne Mellon's on the the Duke of Pacific Northwest. Archduke of the Pacific Northwest. Yes, he's the Archduke. So Kobe writes in, Hi John and Adam, I'm doing my part to motivate our two fabulous hosts on a possible slow donation day. That's appreciated. Here's an anecdote. I was having dinner with a doctor who lives in California, family man with a wife and kids. He thinks Obama's message of hope and change from 2008 is largely responsible for the rise of Trump.

1:18:47 I was intrigued for a moment, I was thinking I've met another producer in the wild, but we then want to say how racist Trump is and he's only popular amongst white middle America and Bernie and the Bernie crowd is just kids who know nothing about being responsible adults. Susan Sarandon. Susan Sarandon. I wish she had that clip of Susan Sarandon crying when she introduced Bernie. Of course I have that clip. I left disappointed thinking that he is just another coastal liberal. I give you Bernie Sanders. Who will possibly hold his nose and vote for you-know-who?

1:19:25 I also want to congratulate you on being in the forefront and keeping producers alert about memes in the media. The Hong Kong media likes to parrot whatever propaganda is being pushed by the American big three networks and translate them into Cantonese. I blame this mostly on laziness rather than malice, so it's no surprise when I saw Trump's Pocahontas tweet. being reported here a few days ago. I tried to explain to friends the humor behind the nickname, but no one could understand it. But I'm proud to know the origin of that nickname. Thank you for your courage, Sir Kobe from Gitmo Nation, British Colony East. Former, former British colony. Former. I'm sorry. Well, let's give him a little karma for that since he didn't ask for anything. I give you Bernie Sanders. You've got karma. Oh, nice.

1:20:13 Archduke Dwayne, ITM gentlemen, gentle humans from the Archduke of the Pacific Northwest. I got back from Europe and the news coverage is so different there. I found it funny. They called Trump barking mad. Huh? Yeah, we've seen this. Actually, I've seen this. The British call him barking mad. When in fact, it was Hillary who has been barking. We should have the clip of Hillary barking. Of course. Of course. I don't know why that's so funny, because it actually does sound like a little dog. Kermit all night and pro something. He's got cut off. The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation. The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation. The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.

1:21:14 You've got yeah, that's Maynard did that for us? Hasan Hasan Maynard sorry Hasan Maynard did that for us on Hasan? Yeah, not Maynard. No Hasan whatever happened to me. Maynard is he still listening? He's around. He's around. He's still good. Does he listen? I don't think he does. Yes, he does. We're the inspiration for all of his work ST Felter, aka... That's why he got fired from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Fired from ABC and Australian Broadcasting. We're so sorry, Maynard. So sorry. I got an anonymous lesbian still listening to the show. She's broke. She's broke, she says. Oh, okay. She still gives five bucks a month. Double awe. But she's still, she's not overboard, like I thought. ST Felter, aka rogue black knight of the someplace.

1:22:05 What do I have here? What does it say on your Okanogan planes? Oh the Okanogan? That's right. Yes bless me fathers for I have sinned has been 33 shows since my last donation Please let me know how many hail apples I must recite to receive your forgiveness last 80 or so shows have been outstanding And I sincerely think you, thank you for the diligence and humor you wield while defending us from the stream of banal and vomitous untruths and distortions spewed forth from the bought, bribed, and suborned mainstream media.

1:22:49 Okay, I couldn't have said it better myself. My donation is a marvelous $3.33 plus $11.11 and a few dozen shows back. Adam lamented about how he frequently notices 11.11 on digital clocks. That's right. Thanks Adam, really appreciate that shout out. Because now I do too. I have never seen 1111 on. Oh, I see it all the time. Really? I have two special requests. Please give a douchebag shout out to T tall Paul. Douchebag. He can't send money. The least he could do is send you guys a few bottles of what the most brilliant, excellent vintages he's hoarding in his cellar. Oh yeah. Nice. My best pal Gary is compare as competing with about 20,000 other

1:23:34 Low lives in the world series of poker in Las Vegas, please dispatch a healthy healthy healthy dose of karma to him Okay, and defend him from the runner runner runner suck out players And finally the jingles also for Gary little girl brown Boom shakalaka. Mm-hmm whoopee get out of my vagina You've been D douched and little girl yay Alright, faithfully yours, ST Felter, rogue black knight of the Okanogan plains, definitely. Boo, Chocolata! Boo, Chocolata! Get out of my vagina! You've been de-duped. You've got karma. Lots of little girls doing yay. Yeah, yay. Uh... Yeah, we're into Ingrid. I have to go to the email to get her note. Uh, she, uh...

1:24:30 Sent this in this was actually a wire transfer. Oh, oh, that's right. I remember this note Yeah, yeah, and I thought I'd printed the note out, but I didn't so I have to now go through a rigmarole here to find her Okay, well squirrel mail is not easy. I agree here we go Adam and John greetings from Amsterdam gitmo nation lowlands my second donation this time three three three dot three three is on its way I enjoy listening to your show. In between the new episodes, I listen to the old ones. I started from show number one and it made me realize I wish I had discovered your show sooner. I listened to the audiobook Atlas Shrugged. Oh wow, what is that, 45 hours? I knew about the book. The audiobook of Atlas Shrugged? Is there one? Yes, I know there's one. Is it used by the CIA during renditions? I don't know.

1:25:19 I knew about the book, but Adam really made me curious about it. I'm sorry John She says I was able to contribute this amount because in the Netherlands May is the month when people receive their holiday allowance That's right. That's right your holiday free pay. Yeah, and if I get some money I I'm sorry you get money. They just give you a bunch of cash, and yeah you get yeah Yeah, we've talked about this 13th month Holiday a lot of fun thing to get right in the Netherlands probably four weeks vacation minimum Maybe six actually I think about it. I think well. That's the same in France and most of Europe. Yeah We really appreciate that Ingrid. Thank you so much. I'm gonna give you some karma for that. You've got karma

1:26:05 Sean Alaka in Chester, New Jersey, 333, and he did send a note in which I have a copy of. I did print that one out. Did you print anything? What? Did you print anything? I did, I got it. Okay. Hello John and Adam, here's another donation on my way to knighthood from the soon-to-be Sir Sean of Slovakia. We need news from Slovakia. King of Krem... Kremnica, Kremni, Kremni-sa, oh Kremnisa, Kremnitsa. Thank you very much. I'm, thank you for the applause. I'm sending this donation for Thursday's show for a few reasons that are still, they're all Snowden related. Three years ago, JCD was on a Sunday show, tech show, where he hit me in the mouth as Snowden, Prism was the main topic that day. I started re-listening to No Agenda the next day.

1:27:04 I spent three years and I've never missed a show since. I plan on making a donation anyway to mark my three-year anniversary, but then Ed Snowden, between an old news clip propagating the lie about forcing down of the Ecuadorian president's airplane, I could not let this stand. As I knew the truth, you both exposed me two years ago. I replied to Snowden, he's the good one who went back and forth to Snowden. with links to the actual tower plane conversation. My shock Snowden replied with a bogus BBC report about France taking the blame and that my audio link was somehow suspect. Didn't we already do this note? Is this a double? It feels like a double. We may have read it already. Okay. Yes, that's possible. I felt many things strangely converging so I gave my money. Okay. I was able to hit my... Oh right, okay, because the pretty wife. Ah yes, we did all that. Yeah, you got that note and read it. Yeah. And I got the note when I was looking him up because this is when the donation came in and then I got to see his wife who's very, very good looking. She's a great looking woman.

1:28:01 He needs no karma with that wife. Ah, shoot, I'll give it to him anyway. You've got karma. I'm just saying. I'm sorry about reading the note all over again. And Snowden's back in the news again and we promised not to talk about him anymore. But I just want a clip that's worth playing. Okay, well you want to do it now? Why not? No, I think I'll do it after. It'd be better. Alright. Because it may devolve into a contest. Okay, I gotcha. Andrew Wert in Sacramento, California, 271-82, Associate Executive Producer for show 833, and he said, I looked and looked and looked, no note. So give him some karma. Okay. Let me just check. You've got karma. Let me check and see if I have any note from him.

1:28:54 Thomas Hitler in Vienna, 268 in Austria. It was my birthday last week, June 2nd, turning 36, $286.00 seems to be a good number to thank you for your courage. Some relationship in getting laid, Karma would be greatly appreciated. My just ended relationship, tacked the letters, I know I got blah, blah, blah. Lacked, lacked the letters. Oh, lacked, lacked. I don't know, but then it's... This needs to change. Have a nice day. I can't read my... I can't read it. PayPal screwed it up. Double byte encoding everybody. Unicode. Hello PayPal. You've got Karma. Just a thought. It is 2016. Yeah, well...

1:29:40 Unicode? If I could get a de-douching and a karma followed by the seed man ranting about glow-in-the-dark dogs... Yeah, okay. You can get that. What did he want? He wanted karma. He wants a de-douching and a karma followed by the seed man ranting about glow-in-the-dark dogs, HIV corn, and human fetuses growing inside cows.

1:30:20 I was wondering if Adam ever tried to call and troll the seed man or actually meet him. You almost did once. Yeah, I almost did. Keep up the excellent work as appreciated even by proletariat slaves. Suck as me. Even my proletariat slaves suck as me. Such. Probably meant such. Such. Such. All right. You've been de-douched. For 20 plus years, they've had glow-in-the-dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish. For 20 years, they've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas, protogen. You know about pharmacological corn? My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows. You've got karma.

1:31:04 That's my favorite I Forgot all about that clip. Oh, that's why we have our producers to remind us. That's what producers do hey Dynamite content bring that back everybody yeah, yeah, my god for 25 years. They've been growing babies in cows Wow, that's fantastic. 45 years yet. That's good stuff. Eric Powers in Los Alamos, New Mexico, $210.12. It's de-douching please. Been listening for a year now and I'm hooked. Took that long? For your information, here's how I got hit in the mouth. This is a good one. Wait a minute, for a year. So a year is probably, what, 100 hours? Like, I wonder if I'm hooked on this or not. I'm not quite sure.

1:31:54 You if you've been listening for a year you may be hooked I read this note before because I had this I had this I had a comment to it So I don't know if this is this is a double no I saw this no to where this is interesting Yeah, this may have showed up because of the time it came in I got read he's getting double credit Yeah, it's okay. Well, then do it, but I love this note. I'm gonna read it um My brother-in-law connected me with the Stansbury newsletters where I found out about Frank Curzio's podcast. Wait, wait, wait, the Stansbury newsletters. That's a thing that's a, that's like, you need to watch this now if you want to win big or avoid the collapse. And it's a video that plays without controls. You can't stop it. You can't see how much longer it lasts. You can stop it. Just close the tab. Yeah.

1:32:39 I found out about the Frank Curzio's podcast where I heard about the Andrew Horowitz podcast where I heard about the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged where I heard about no agenda. Bing! Okay, so we did that one before. We've done that one. And I think we did these other two. Ashton Bonta, Monica Lansi. There's something going on with the spreadsheet, Monomi. Yeah, I think so too. Hold on, let me skip those. Let me just open the last one. Let's see. Let me just see what we're missing here. Dang! Hate it when that happens. Well, I don't remember Helen Trejo. Yeah, I do. Oh you do? Yeah, absolutely. Because I always do the credits. Hmm. Let me see. I got it here. We have, yeah, Ashton Bonta. So Eric Powers. Oh my goodness. What about Olaf Wolff?

1:33:25 Yeah, in Munchen, I remember calling him. Yeah, Olaf. Well, but Olaf is 123. Man, this was a bad merge or something. Yeah. Okay, well, I'll bitch about it later. But anyway, that concludes it. Can I just say something? We have to get a whole new spreadsheet. It's a duplicate all the way down. There's duplicates all over this thing, yeah. Yeah, you should probably call Eric or send a note to him or something. This is way off. We have Brian, let me see, Brian Irwin. Not all of it, but there's, let's see. I know, it's obviously merged. Yeah, it's a bad merge. I see Ryan Goulsen-Luchter. That's a repeat. Crapola. Well, why don't we just thank everybody all over again? Doesn't, no, it's getting off my nose, really. Yeah, a lot of, yeah, okay. Might as well. Well, that's, well, we've got this one done, so we're good.

1:34:22 Since these last three are duplicates. Boy, okay. Sorry about that people. You know, it's happened before. The worst time it happened I remember when it was like, they were all wrong. They weren't even the real spreadsheet. It was a complete disaster. Yeah. Okay, well if you too want to be mentioned yet again, then just go to devorak.org slash n a for our next show on Thursday. In the meantime, while you're waiting for that to happen, please go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Hey, citizen. Shut up, snake! God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows! Hell yeah. Whoops.

1:35:20 Where does he get that? He's read the documents! I've seen them! Oh, you're getting there. Google it for yourself! No, you do fall apart. Yeah, I can't, I really... It can't be good for your voice. Not for me. It's not for me. Oh, since we're talking about... Is there any update yet? Chat room, do we know? Has this been called terrorism yet or is it guns and crazy people? Whatever it is, I would like to revisit just briefly before you get into, because you want to talk about Snowden. Back to McCall at the Council on Foreign Relations. And Dana Bash is there interviewing him. And now he's going to tell us about the threat environment. National security, I think, is the number one responsibility under the Constitution. I am so tired of you. No, no, no. That is not the first responsibility under the Constitution. Okay. This is why you're a congressman. Good work. National security, I think, is the number one responsibility under the Constitution.

1:36:22 I would say we're in the highest threat environment I've seen since 9-11. The airports, last point of departure airports, are of serious concern. I just returned from Cairo, Egypt to look at that airport. We have daily flights into JFK. That concerns me. There are many last point departure airports that are not secure. And we know that al-Qaeda and ISIS are very intent on putting bombs on the airplanes, as we saw with the Russian jetliner. We don't know for sure now about the Egyptian airliner, but we know Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is still very focused. So what our blueprint calls for is a beefing up of security at last point of departure airports, better vetting, better screening at the airports. Homeland Security is really about a couple things. It's identifying the threats and keeping them outside of this country, whether it be bad people or bad things, terrorists or potentially weapons of mass destruction.

1:37:23 This is highly important. You mentioned the border. I think the border applies as well. We need a secure border to stop potential terrorists from entering the nation. We know ISIS and Dubeet magazine talked about taking a Pakistan nuclear weapon and smuggling it across the US-Mexico border. So all these components are vitally important to protecting Americans here at home. There you go. Have we found that Egypt heir? No. No, we still haven't found it. It's kind of fallen out of the news cycle now that you mention it. I forgot all about it. Well, there was another interesting little ditty. You know, the guy who found that piece of Malaysian heir 370, which we also have not found, he found some new pieces, but he has something interesting to say.

1:38:21 New in Tennessee, Edelman says he has found more possible debris from missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370. Blaine Gibson is the man you see here. He says he found the debris in Madagascar and posted video of it on his Facebook page. His latest find includes what he described as light gray smooth paneling, a second piece with the letters FB on it, and a third one that appears to be the case around a monitor like that you would see on the back seat back of a plane. This debris provides some valuable clues if it is proven to be from Malaysia 370. However, these are only pieces of the plane.

1:39:00 They do not prove absolutely that the passengers were on board when it crashed. Gibson plans to turn that debris over to the NTSB and Malaysian authorities. Earlier this year, he found more debris believed to belong to MH370 in Mozambique. You know, this, I think it's pretty unique. I should go back and study this, but to have now two aircraft in the span of as many years just completely disappear and be unfindable. I'm so sure that I... it could be the Mandela effect, but I've never seen this before. I don't recall any aircraft we just could not find after an incident.

1:39:44 Very strange. All right, I got a couple of clips that are interesting. None of them reported by the way in any mainstream media. Well, but this... Hello. The CIA MI6 story, which I had MI8 here for some reason, scammer thing going on. That's your classified status. I don't know how you know about them, but okay. Yeah. This is a very interesting story and it only got revealed as causing a big stir in Great Britain, especially in advance of the Brexit, which we probably should start really focusing on because we're getting close.

1:40:19 And it was not reported at all here. And it was—it's kind of like a—it's a very disgusting story. British prosecutors have announced no charges will be brought against MI6 officials who took part in a joint CIA operation targeting a Libyan dissident and his wife. In 2004, Abdulhakim Berhaj and his pregnant wife were secretly detained at a secret CIA prison in Thailand and then rendered to Libya, where they were jailed and tortured in one of Muammar Gaddafi's prisons. Berhaj's wife, Fatima Bouchar, spoke to the BBC.

1:40:55 My hands and legs were tied and my eyes were covered. They injected me with something. I didn't know where I was going. I was six months pregnant. I was so scared that I was going to die. Details of the MI6's role in the CIA operation emerged after Human Rights Watch found documents related to the case in Libya after the fall of Gaddafi's government. Ah, wait, what was that last bit? Let me just play that last bit again, last 10 seconds. It's a little irony there. This is what happened in East Germany when the East German government folded and the Stasi files got released and the government got to see who their local spies were. Yeah. It always comes out. You're working for one of these agencies, it's going to come out. But this particular event is very strange because why were we renditioning people that were

1:41:56 against Gaddafi and then sending him to Gaddafi so they could be tortured and then later take Gaddafi out. It's a service we provide. What do we charge? I don't know. We're probably not getting paid, but we do provide the service. Hi. Yeah, well we did a... Disgusting. So meanwhile there's this story, another one that was kind of screwy. This one here is more of a novelty story, but it was kind of interesting because it was obviously done for some reason to put some message into the public domain. But this is the German intelligence story.

1:42:35 Well, whose side is Edward Snowden really on? It's a question demanding new answers here in Berlin. Now the former US intelligence contractor He released classified documents back in 2013, some of which revealed that the NSA was eavesdropping on Germany's own security agencies. Well now a high ranking German intelligence expert says Snowden may not be the US patriot that he wants the world to see. Nice. The committee was working late last night, questioning the head of Germany's domestic intelligence service, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

1:43:13 The topic was meant to be Germany's role in supplying information to the United States. But Hans-Georg Masson went way off topic with relish. I really enjoyed it. I've been looking forward to this day for two years. Marsen told the committee he thought Edward Snowden, the US whistleblower who has temporary asylum in Moscow, might be a Russian spy who's trying to drive a wedge between the United States and Europe. Marsen offered no evidence to back this up. It's one thing to dream up conspiracy theories as working hypotheses. It's quite another to go public with them, especially if you're president of a German government body. You need to provide evidence. I didn't hear any. That was not an exercise in humility on the part of Mr. Maaßen today. Perhaps he was thinking that offense is the best defense.

1:44:10 The discussion continued during the break, even though the media were watching. Snowden was evidently following the proceedings because he promptly posted a tweet, is Marson perhaps a Russian agent? As to sharing data with the United States, on that topic, Marson said everything had been done by the book. Now, what do you, what do you, I saw this, I didn't hear this, I read this. I really wanna believe that Snowden is a Russian spy, but it would have to be counter-spy because he is a CIA asset. Here's what I think. He's a CIA asset and there's been movement... Now, last time we started talking about this, we got cut off. Yeah, be careful. There's been a movement to get him back to the country to extract him, as it were.

1:45:01 Because he's a CIA guy, if he is, and he says he is, and he has his cards and we believe he is, actively, he has, they have a responsibility to get him back. No man left behind. And so, but meanwhile the NSA is so steamed about this. That they're doing, it's them that are doing everything they can and they're the ones playing this. We need to take a look at the guys who are saying, is it, um... Which senators and congressmen are saying he's a spy? Because those are the ones who then we would suppose are not connected to CIA. No, they'd be connected to NSA. Exactly, so we need to go back and take a look. Uh oh. So you believe this crap? Stream just cut out again? Really? Yes.

1:45:53 Uh, hello? We're onto something. Hold on, hold on. We have to stop talking about it. Hold on, hold on. Void Zero, are we back? Let me just see. Hold on a second. Uh, are we back? Okay, they say it dropped out twice. I don't know. Let's just keep going. Okay, well, whatever. Anyway, there's something going on and these two agencies are still battling each other. Yeah. That's the way I see it. We need to go back and look and see exactly who... Did McCain say he was a traitor?

1:46:30 Well, a lot of probably. Yeah, but those would all be NSA connections and not CIA. Well, anyway, I'm willing to believe this. And I don't know how or if or when it's ever going to be proven, but it's going to make a lot of people look stupid. Now, the funny thing about their comment was it was the rationale this guy came up with this character who is obviously, you know, working with somebody. To even bring this out, because like the other guy said, there's no evidence of any of this. This guy's just shooting his mouth off. But he said it was to bring it to a wedge between the EU and the United States, which I don't think is Russia's... Well, maybe it is Russia's goal for the energy part of it, of the equation, because they want to sell gas to Europe.

1:47:18 We've just, Snowden's got nothing to do with the wedge. No. To say the least. No, no, no he doesn't. You know, Victoria Nuland has got more to do with it than the Snowden. Yeah. And I don't see any wedge coming out of the Snowden incident. The only thing that's come out of the Snowden incident has been our relationship with Russia has been tainted because they won't turn him over. It all started with that. So this guy's totally full of crap and this is a misdirection. Hmm. Again we're not talking about this anymore because we know no don't don't because I'm not to and we you know Looks like it's no reason to it's not it's not that interesting to most people Okay, like to maintain our stream. Yes, that would be nice

1:48:04 Along with this comes news, and I check this with our Ukrainian military sources. Yes, we actually do have those in many places around the world. So we have in France, Marseille, British football supporters, of course, everything is happening right during this Euro 2016 soccer competition, football competition, including the Brexit, I might add. And so it may or may not be related. But the news reported that Russia... Can I say one thing about the soccer event, just quickly? Man Buns and Mohawks. Another title! Okay. Man Buns and Mohawks. So there were 200... And the BBC reports, ah, Russian hooligans are attacking the British football supporters. That's nonsense. It's the French that's been documented.

1:49:04 What who are tech no no no these were black Balaclava clad men with knives black t-shirts they were the Ukrainian Pravi sector who are Nazis who call themselves Nazis They're the ones that did it not the Russians not the French Oh, I thought it was the French. I'm not talking about what happened... Are they blaming it on the Russians and it's the Ukrainians? Yeah, BBC blames it on the Russians. I'm not talking about what happened in the stadium, John. I'm talking about what happened at the old port district in Marseille. This was like... Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay. Where did you get the French from? I think I got it from... I think I got it from one of the European news sources.

1:49:45 I watched it. I mean, I didn't clip it or anything. I wasn't paying that much attention. All I saw was just hooligans. And this is, you know, the soccer is what the elites want to promote in the United States and make us watch so we can be the same way. I don't think it's a... I watched one of the games. It was like uninteresting. It's just not a good sport. It's not a good sport. It's like hockey is a better version of the same sort of game. I don't know. I just...soccer bugs me. Yeah, well, it's now...of course, we know soccer is corrupt. This is no news. We know about FIFA. But to have the BBC... You can manipulate the world if everyone's in on soccer. But it is important that whatever people are hearing, our sources, and I really trust these, say, yes, this is true. That was not Russians. It was not French. It was the...it's the right sector, basically, the Pravi sector.

1:50:39 Who and if you look at the pictures you see these guys in public lavas black t-shirts? And if you look at them in Ukraine they like having they have kind of that lightning bolt swastika variation these are the guys doing it, so You have to question. Why? Why is this happening? Why are we blaming the Russians or why well? I know why we're blaming the Russians is that it maybe it's just it blame the Russians Yeah, maybe probably makes a lot of sense Cameron I'm gonna get this is it was an interesting article. Headline, Cameron could stage another referendum to undo Brexit victory, former Commons clerk warns. And this makes nothing but sense. It made nothing but sense when I heard it. Yeah, this is what this is how you do it. If the result on June 23rd is, for example, 51 to 49 in favor of leave on a turnout of 55%, then that would move quite a lot of goalposts.

1:51:41 Which means it would be too close to call and we'd have to have a do-over. This is what they do in Europe. It's gonna be too close to call. Lisbon Treaty... No, it won't be too close to call. They're gonna... I mean, I don't think they're gonna... I think they're gonna pull a rabbit out of a hat and rig the election. That's the easiest way to do it. That's what I would do. Yeah. Everyone I speak to really feels that it... And the polls, of course, also show leave ahead from stay. which is good just for fun to make it a tight race. But yeah, I think you're right, Brexit will not happen, but I like this new twist and something we kind of already discussed and expect. It'll be leave wins and do over. Yeah, it's great. I just don't see any other way. It's perfect. It's perfect. We do have a lot of listeners to the show who are and producers who

1:52:45 are all in on staying in the EU and they question why we seem to be for the Brexit. And I think we're probably for the Brexit. For the action? Yeah. I'm completely selfish. I'm all in for the action. I think it will cause an economic mini-crisis, especially in Britain. I think already the pound has dropped like, I don't know, 5% because of the polls alone. Right, right, right, right. Well, just speaking of exits or Brexit's, we've known that Puerto Rico is in big, big trouble. Big trouble. Financial trouble. Now, maybe we could explain for everybody exactly how Puerto Rico fits into the United States.

1:53:34 I don't think everyone understands exactly how this works. It's a colony. It's a protectorate is what it's called technically. But it's a colony. But it's a protectorate and it wants to be the 51st... any number you can come up with, state. They'll wait through, you know, turning anything into a state and they'll be the next one. So how did this become our property? Or is it not really our property? During the Spanish-American War, I believe. I think we claimed it. So, what's our responsibility to Puerto Rico? We are...we...that's like the responsibility we used to have in the Philippines, I believe, but it's like the responsibility we have in Guam. Guam is not a state. Puerto Ricans are natural-born citizens of the United States. Puerto Rico does not have a vote in the United States Congress, which governs the territory with full jurisdiction under the Puerto Rico Federal Relations Act of 1950.

1:54:31 As U.S. territory, American citizens residing on the island are quote, disenfranchised at the national level, and may not vote for president and vice president of the United States. However, Congress approved a local constitution allowing U.S. citizens on the territory to elect a governor. And we're about to move it a little bit further with these poor people. And it's not just Puerto Rico, we have Guam and something else. What else is nearby there? I think it's in my notes actually. I don't know what else we got around there. We have the, I think, Virgin Islands or something. Yes, the American Virgin Islands. You're correct. I have the document here, which I do want to read a couple of highlights from because the president dedicated his entire podcast to it this weekend. I bet he's sorry about that. He might want to swap it out for please no guns or something like that. Hi, everybody. Hey, Ohio! Today, I want to talk with you about the crisis in Puerto Rico and why it matters to all of us.

1:55:27 Puerto Ricans are American citizens, just like folks in Maine. No, no, no, I'm sorry. They're not just like American citizens. That's not true. They don't get to vote. Didn't we just read that? If they moved to Maine, they could. Yeah. Are American citizens, just like folks in Maine or Oklahoma or New Mexico. Folks, folks. And over the last decade, Puerto Rico has suffered through a deep and painful recession. But unlike the rest of the United States, it hasn't recovered. Today's island... That's rich. Yeah, we're fully recovered over here, everybody. Don't worry. We'll help you out, Puerto Rico. Today, the island continues to face a crippling economic crisis. Schools are closing. Power is being cut off at homes and hospitals. Teachers have to choose between turning on the lights or turning on the computers.

1:56:17 Doctors can't get medicine to treat newborns unless they pay in cash. And as the Zika virus threatens both the island and the mainland, workers dealing with mosquito control to help protect women and their unborn babies are at risk of being laid off. Right now, Puerto Rico is spending about a third of its tax revenue on debt payments, far more than anywhere else in America. And on July 1st, the island faces another $2 billion in debt payments that it cannot pay. There's only one way for Puerto Rico to pull itself out of this crisis. Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them again! And that's by restructuring its debt and finding a sustainable fiscal path toward growth and opportunity for its people. Now, what does this remind us of? I've heard these kinds of words. Where have I heard this?

1:57:06 This sounds familiar, but there's another piece missing. But here's the problem. Right now, Puerto Rico doesn't have the tools it needs to restructure its debt. Tools available elsewhere in America. And only Congress can fix the problem. Only Congress. And put Puerto Rico on a path to recovery. Thankfully, this week the House overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan bill to address the crisis. And I now urge the Senate to move quickly to follow suit. This bill won't cost federal taxpayers a dime. It doesn't include special interest bailouts, and it gives Puerto Rico the ability to restructure its debt, safeguard essential services, and provide important protections to public pensions that more than 300,000 folks rely on to retire with dignity.

1:57:56 This bill also includes something... For that is the American dream, Puerto Rico. We want you to retire with dignity. ...pensions that more than 300,000 folks rely on to retire with dignity. This bill also includes something else. A temporary system of oversight to help implement needed reforms and ensure transparency. I know that some folks in Puerto Rico are worried about this kind of oversight, but I've always insisted that any solution to this crisis has to respect the democratic rights of the people of Puerto Rico. All right, so we're going to stop it there because the president does not really explain what's going on and it's actually quite hard to find... what this bill was. I was looking around, there's tons of little Puerto Rico bills, but the one they're talking about is, which was passed by Congress, House Resolution 4900, and it is the Puerto Rico Oversight Management and Economic Stability Act, or we can call it PROMESA. PROMESA. Now when you hear all that with oversight, what does that remind you of? It reminded me of Greece and the IMF.

1:59:00 And when the president says, I know you're not fond of oversight. Yeah, the Puerto Ricans don't like this oversight because it's exactly like the IMF, the Troika really with the European Commission and they will force austerity. So, what this act is, and it's not true that it doesn't cost a single dime because we're putting together an oversight board, even though they do not receive any compensation for being on the oversight board, it does cost money. You know, it does. It just costs money to have these people running around doing stuff. Well, let's stop. I do have a clip to kind of back you up here. Okay.

1:59:36 One of the guys I like, one of the least likable guys on the Congress is Luis Gutierrez, who is a firebrand, I think he's in New York, and hates everything, he's a communist. And he went off on this bitch, pitching about it, because it was a very interesting vote. I looked at the vote that passed this thing, and it was like pretty half Democrats, half Republicans, Half and then a bunch of people on both sides that didn't like it didn't like at all no at all and then Gutierrez Who really hates the thing came shouted on C-Span? He just went ballistic on this thing, and I just thought this is kind of interesting so you can play this clip This is the Puerto Rico junta

2:00:19 The House of Representatives voted Thursday to create a federal control board to help Puerto Rico cope with its crippling debt crisis. The bill passed by a vote of 297 to 127. The bill now moves on to the Senate. The bill would impose a seven-member oversight board with sweeping powers to run Puerto Rico's economy. Democratic Congress member Luis Gutierrez spoke out against the bill. We're engaged today in a wholly undemocratic activity in the world's greatest democracy We're debating how we will take power from the people who are virtually powerless already. Think about it You are imposing a junta because that's what they're calling it There will be no difference between this junta and the junta of Pinochet in Chile As far as the international community is concerned. Well that guy's he's got his head on straight. Absolutely

2:01:13 But he's making one big mistake. We own your ass. You have no rights. And if you want to be part of the great American system, this is how it works. This is what you get. You junta. I mean, this is a very big bill. It has 500, you know, like just tons of pages. And it doesn't really spell out exactly what this board is going to do, but it's very apparent when you just read, I mean, if you just look at the definitions used right off the bat in this act. Agreed accounting standards. The term agreed accounting standards means modified accrual accounting standards or for any period during which the board determines in its sole discretion

2:01:54 that a territorial government is not reasonably capable of comprehensive reporting. So they are saying that they will be able, they're going to be in charge of, I guess, the audit of the accounting and they're going to use the agreed accounting standards, which is the modified accrual accounting standard. I don't know anything about that, but all I know is GAAP. which is the generally approved accounting... Generally accepted. ...accepted accounting principles. I don't know exactly what agreed accounting standards means, but they can just do whatever they want. Bond. This is number two definition. The term bond means a bond, loan, letter of credit, other borrowing, title, obligation of insurance or other indebtedness, including rights, entitlements or obligations, whether such rights, entitlements or obligations are from contract, statute or any other source of law in any case.

2:02:40 So they're going to be creating a bond. That's the way I read this. Another term, compliant budget. The term compliant budget means a budget that is prepared in accordance with A, agreed upon accounting standards and B, the applicable fiscal plan, you see. So we'll be creating a fiscal plan. The instrumentality budget means a budget for a covered territorial instrumentality designed by the board in accordance with section 101, submitted, approved and certified in accordance with section 202. And 202 is a very important section. So this board will be able to create a bond, basically tell them how to account for it, and the covered territory is Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, or the United States Virgin Islands. Territory budget. This term means a budget for a territorial government submitted, approved, and certified in accordance with Section 202.

2:03:40 So, we want to go to...let's see. Oh, separate instrumentality fiscal plans. The oversight board may designate in its sole discretion a covered territorial instrumentality to be the subject of an instrumentality fiscal plan separate from the applicable territory fiscal plan. This is what the IMF does. This is what they did with Greece. Well, this is...if you remember about two years ago when Puerto Rico was having all kinds of issues. It was discussed that the economic hitman model was going to be turned against Americans starting with Puerto Rico. Oh my God, I'd forgotten about that. And that's exactly what you're talking about. Yes. And what the funny thing is, you had a similar kind of thing, but not quite as to an extreme in Michigan where you have all these... Yeah, yeah. The mayor, these officers were removed from managing Detroit and people were put in their place, unelected.

2:04:36 And I think this is might be part of a trend because it's, you know, it's a long-term thing you have to do if you're going to be a one world government and all the rest of it. You've got to get rid of some of these democratic institutions and kind of just show that it's better without them. The junta would be a better thing because these people are professionals. Yes. Oh, oh, totally. Professionals. They know what they're doing. Yeah. You don't have a professional. Donald Trump is going to make this worse because he's an example of a guy who's, you know, just some guy and he's getting elected president. You can't do that. The oversight professionals, the oversight professionals, professional rapists of countries, the board shall have

2:05:20 Subpoena power. They can issue subpoenas requiring the attendance and testimony of witnesses in the production of books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, documents, electronic files, metadata, tapes, hey, hello NSA, you got a gig in Puerto Rico. Materials of any nature relating to any matter under investigation by the Oversight Board. The attendance of witnesses and the production of such materials may be required from any place within the United States. But then there's an odd one. There's an odd... Exception here for the board regarding gifts be quests and Devices I understand gifts what are be quests? You got to get to dick I know what it is kind of but it's kind of like a gift But it's not there's something else just some other element to the definition get the definition okay be quest

2:06:13 That's the machine no no I've banned the machine from the studio screw her it's all she get don't just laugh It's laughable is no good the action of bequeathing something legacy inheritance endowment settlement Okay, so gifts or any kind of other shit or devises what is devises cheese? I never heard of that word I know what the word DVI SES devises a plan careful thought ah In law, in law, it means to leave to someone by terms of a will. Okay. It's kind of like a bequest. The oversight board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts, bequests, or devices of service or services or property, both real and personal, for the purpose of aiding or facilitating the work of the oversight board.

2:07:11 Gifts, bequests or devises of money and proceeds from sales of other property received as gifts, bequests or devises shall be deposited in such account as the Oversight Board may establish and shall be available for the disbursement upon order of the Chair consistent with the Oversight Board's laws. They're going to sit on a throne and get tributes? All gifts bequests or devises and the identities of the donors shall be publicly disclosed by the oversight board within 30 days of receipt. But they can keep it! This is strange. That's a good catch. It's annoying to my spidey sense, that's for sure. Yeah, it sounds like a king on a throne and people coming in lining up and dropping off stuff. Here's a goat, here's my daughter, here's a pot full of money. And when I die, here's my house. Yeah. Add the borderline authority to enter into contracts.

2:08:07 Here's section 202, the approval of budgets. This is the important section, I'm just going to read a little bit from it. Reasonable schedule for development of budgets. As soon as practicable after at least four members have been appointed to the oversight board in the fiscal year in which the oversight board is established and each fiscal year thereafter. during which the Oversight Board is in operation, the Oversight Board shall deliver a notice to the Governor and the Legislature providing a schedule for developing, submitting, approving, and certifying budgets for a period of fiscal years as determined by the Oversight Board." That's austerity, ladies and gentlemen. That is austerity. And congratulations, Puerto Rico, you're now part of the big people's world. You get off the austerity. Now, Section 210. Very interesting.

2:08:49 In general, the full faith and credit of the United States is not pledged for the payment of any principle of, of, or interest on any bond, note, or other obligation issued by the Oversight Board. Hello! The United States is not responsible or liable for the payment of any principal or interest on any bond, note, or other obligation issued by the Oversight Board. So we're going to issue a bond, you're going to get austerity, and we're kind of just telling you what to do, and we have all kinds of power to tell you to shut up, slave. But if you give me your goat, I might go a little easy on you. But we're just going to sell off your debt and make sure that you pay back everything through austerity measures. And that's why the President says,

2:09:34 Specifically, I know it's not popular. No, of course not. Who wants to be a slave like the Greek? It's an outrage, this. Well, I mean, not really an outrage, but for Puerto Ricans, it can be an outrage. They're not getting treated like American citizens. No, this blows. Interesting. Okay, well, we have to follow this now. Something's up. The president used his podcast for it. That's definitely, it's important to him. Meanwhile, the president is also using his, uh, this is Napolitano bitching about the FBI's investigating Hillary for criminal.

2:10:18 Yes, and that's what they violated a bunch of laws with that email thing of hers. And so here's Napolitano. This is a clip they actually pulled from Twitter. So it's been edited. But this is like Napolitano, you know, kind of saying this is not going to work out. You're talking about hundreds of human beings, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, investigators, clerks, researchers. and thousands of person hours investigating Mrs. Clinton. These people are saying, well, our work could now be nullified because of the president's political wishes. He's not saying stop investigating her. He's not saying we're not gonna present this to a grand jury, but how can we continue with this investigation knowing that our boss wants this person who's the target of the investigation to succeed him? That's called a conflict.

2:09:34 Specifically, I know it's not popular. No, of course not. Who wants to be a slave like the Greek? It's an outrage, this. Well, I mean, not really an outrage, but for Puerto Ricans, it can be an outrage. They're not getting treated like American citizens. No, this blows. Interesting. Okay, well, we have to follow this now. Something's up. The president used his podcast for it. That's definitely, it's important to him. Meanwhile, the president is also using his, uh, this is Napolitano bitching about the FBI's investigating Hillary for criminal.

2:10:18 Yes, and that's what they violated a bunch of laws with that email thing of hers. And so here's Napolitano. This is a clip they actually pulled from Twitter. So it's been edited. But this is like Napolitano, you know, kind of saying this is not going to work out. You're talking about hundreds of human beings, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, investigators, clerks, researchers. and thousands of person hours investigating Mrs. Clinton. These people are saying, well, our work could now be nullified because of the president's political wishes. He's not saying stop investigating her. He's not saying we're not gonna present this to a grand jury, but how can we continue with this investigation knowing that our boss wants this person who's the target of the investigation to succeed him? That's called a conflict.

2:11:08 What a mess. Yeah, it's a good one. And then meanwhile, last, apparently last week, uh, Sanders was on one of the, one of the, I think Jake Tapper show and he said, and he, uh, he discussed the Clinton foundation in a very awkward way, I thought. And then of course he's backed off of it. And in fact, I, in fact, I think I have another clip, but play this one. Sanders supports on, okay, this is the, okay, now I remember this is the clip. So on this clip, sorry, Wait, in this clip, Sanders goes off on the Clinton Foundation and is in his, if you can call it going off. Meanwhile, Democracy Now!, Amy's got these two people on one's a Clinton supporter, one's a Sanders supporter. And the Sanders supporter, who is the former head of the Communications Workers Union.

2:11:54 uh... she can't grills about the clinton foundation and he's reluctant to say anything to me or see is a total pussy so i recall let me ask you about this is was bernie sanders just last sunday speaking with jake tapper and cnn state of the union let's go to a class do i have a problem uh... when i sitting secretary of state and a foundation run by our husband collects many millions of dollars uh... from foreign governments of governments which are dictatorships. You don't have a lot of civil liberties or democratic rights in Saudi Arabia. You don't have a lot of respect there for opposition points of view, for gay rights, for women's rights. Do I have a problem with that? Yeah, I do. You think it creates an appearance of conflict of interest? Yeah, I do.

2:12:48 So, there is Bernie Sanders saying that Hillary Clinton has a conflict of interest between the Clinton Foundation, receiving millions of dollars from corrupt, despotic governments like Saudi Arabia, and the secretary of state's work. Are we going to see comments like this anymore? Donald Trump says he's going to give a major address on the Clintons this week, perhaps as early as Monday. Your thoughts? Well, I think Bernie, as you heard yesterday, is going to shift more to a focus on Donald Trump, because in elections we have choices, not necessarily the choices we want. So probably not many more of those

2:13:30 of those comments. I do think the campaign has been important in terms of pointing out the differences between Bernie and Secretary Clinton. You know, that's part of what this campaign is about. More of it, as Michelle said, has been about, you know, a different vision for America, an inclusive vision that excites young people and people of all ages and from all backgrounds about a new American dream, about growth in the country. Hmm yeah, he's not gonna say nothing about Clinton. Oh this guy so that that's a doomed operation law enforcement officials tell NBC News that The Orlando shooters swore allegiance to the leader of ISIS on a 9-11 phone call shortly before the shooting That's a good one well there you go Donald Trump is in

2:14:25 Well, at least for the moment. Well, seeing as that clip was about the Saudis and I see that you have one, I have just Ban Ki-moon talking. Do you have a report about Saudi Arabia? This is the Saudi Ban Ki-moon thing too. But is it a report or just the audio? It's a report. Okay, I want to hear the report. And it's got Banky in there. But this is another... Now, I have to stop when I get this, when you see this sort of thing. We have to consider the fact that maybe there is a movement to do something about Saudi Arabia. Oh yeah, well this is the 28 pages. Yeah, we got a whole bunch of things going on there. We may have to do something about Saudi Arabia because we're now propagandizing the American public to make sure everybody knows that they're bad and that, you know, they're jerk-offs. There's no doubt about it. But I haven't seen this so much before. Yeah, it's rampant right now. But it's really rampant and so that means something is up. We're being propagandized.

2:15:20 For a purpose. And this report is really annoying. This one gets anybody irked. United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has acknowledged he was coerced into removing Saudi Arabia from a blacklist of forces responsible for killing children after the kingdom threatened to cut off funding to the UN. An annual U.N. report found nearly 2,000 children were killed or injured in Yemen last year, a sixfold increase over the previous year. Sixty percent of those casualties were blamed on the U.S.-backed Saudi-led coalition. Ban Ki-moon described the decision to remove the Saudi-led coalition from the blacklist as one of the most painful and difficult decisions I have had to make. Wow.

2:16:04 The court describes horrors no child should have to face. At the same time, I also had to consider the very real prospect that millions of other children would suffer grievously if, as was suggested to me, Countries would defund many UN programs. Children already at risk in Palestine, South Sudan, Syria, Yemen and so many other places would fall further into despair. It is unacceptable for Member States to exert undue pressure. Don't laugh! Why are you laughing?

2:16:49 So, it's unacceptable for member states to assert undue pressure, which is exactly what he did. Exactly what he did. This guy should resign. He should resign immediately. I don't understand how... So, what happened, the way I understood the story, and you don't have to play my clip because it's pretty much the same, a little more in the beginning, about how, oh, it was so difficult, what, to lie? To lie in your report? That was so difficult, Mr. Ban Ki-moon? I don't understand that, because what? Because how much does Saudi Arabia put into the UN? I know the United States carries most of the load. We carry the load. Yeah, that's unbelievable. They mentioned Saudi Arabia being ahead of the Human Rights Commission or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and Cameron also made a deal with them. We have it, we played that, that was months ago. Cameron-Saudi deal, hold on a second.

2:17:43 And was it... hmm... deal... Now of course I can't find it. Maybe I'll find it sometime. But yeah, Cameron made a deal with the Saudis so that they could become members of, you know, running the Human Rights Commission within the UN, which is just hilarious. Yeah, it's outrageous. It's just... okay. They have... yeah. Ooh, I have a nice little ditty. Using science! Yes, a little bit of science for you for a second. I introduced you to retraction watch calm couple shows. Yes, everybody's reading it now Did you see the most recent one yes is fantastic what came out this I gotta read this to you

2:18:29 So Retraction Watch, for those of you who don't know what it is, there is a crisis in science today, a huge crisis, of manipulation of data to either fit the outcome or to create an outcome that fits the data. And there's a lot of manipulation statistics with something called the p-values. And this RetractionWatch.com, which also have an RSS feed, I love this, are very, very good at identifying and reporting on retractions of studies, reports, and it can range anything from blue genes will give you cancer to, well, this one. Researchers have fixed a number of papers after mistakenly reporting that people who hold conservative political beliefs are more likely to exhibit traits associated with psychoticism, such as authoritarianism and tough-mindedness.

2:19:19 Obviously, this is a report from the American Journal of Political Sciences to say that Republicans are crazy. However, as one of the retraction notices specifies, it now appears that liberal political beliefs are linked to psychoticism. The paper also swapped ideologies when reporting on people higher in neuroticism and social desirability, falsely claiming that you have socially desirable qualities. The original paper said those traits are linked with liberal beliefs, but they are more common among people with conservative values. And so they had to retract this and change this in three total papers.

2:20:01 The paper is Correlation, Not Causation, The Relationship Between Personality Traits and Political Ideologies. And again, published in the American Journal of Political Science. And if you want, I can give you a little quote, but I think you get the idea. It's very funny. This should be top of the news. Yeah, no, that's not... Yeah, no, it's not going to be the case ever. Amen. Fist bump. But it's great. Liberals are psychotic. Well, you've been running into that when you have your Obama-bot. That's right. But if you just read Facebag, it's proof. It's proof. Facebag is proof. I love this website. And if you can, I love this website. These guys are great. But that needs to go viral, man.

2:20:56 Well, it will go viral amongst the conservative Facebookers. Not even that. Not even that. Probably not. No one picks this stuff up. So I'm watching, talking about conservatives, I'm watching Laura Ingram who is a... Talk show host. She's a talk show host. She's on Fox. Shows up on Fox a lot. She's on Hannity. Is she a lesbian? I think she's a lesbian. No, there is one that, what's her name, Cindy, Rendy, there's a woman that is an out lesbian who is a conservative talk show host and she is one of the smartest, smartest people I've ever listened to. She's really good but I can't remember her name. I don't think Ingram is. I mean, she's dikey but I don't think she's a lesbian.

2:21:45 And you know the weird thing about Ingram, and I've seen her, you know, she's a blonde, she's not unattractive. She, I've heard her on the radio and she's going through different mics, you know, they do the compression, do different things on the radio than they do on television. And every time, if I ever catch her show, which is always on at some odd hour, she's not the most popular radio person. I always think it's a guy. I always think it's a guy. Until she says, I'm Laurie Ingram and then oh, then I hear her real voice, her voice as a woman. But I always think she's, I don't know what she's got in her voice that does that. But that's very suspicious. So here she is on Hannity, and by the way, they never come back to this and never readdress this. This is, she's on Hannity talking about something, she's just about to reveal something, and like us, talking about Snowden,

2:22:33 Oh, okay. I mean all these comments they made during the first round of the presidency. Why is he harder on Trump than he's ever been on Obama? Why are a lot of them doing that? Well because they see Trump as an existential threat to their agendas. I mean on the critical issues that we've hammered on this show, trade and immigration. I mean Paul Ryan Ryan is a guy who thinks that most of these trade deals are good deals and I know he's kind of re-examining TPP but that's only because of the rise of Donald Trump. So Trump's victory in November, if Trump wins... When a moment turns romantic, pause to take a pill or stop to find a bathroom. Wow. See us for daily use. Oh you know how that went down, that's easy.

2:23:17 That's an easy one. I can hear the- did you not hear the control room? No, how did it go? I just have to get the control room plugged in. Trump so- Wait hold on, let me roll back a little bit. Here we go, control room. Alright. Are good deals and I know he's kind of re-examining TPP but that's only because of the rise of Donald Trump. Trump's victory in November. Trump wins- In a moment turns romantic, why pause to take a pill? Alright everybody, we're in commercials. We'll just drop over, not coming back. Curiously, WTC7 fell down just at that moment. Nice. Alright, well I'll just throw out a little jokey and then we'll go thank some people. This is your future, people. Love these kinds of nudes. This actually should do this... There we go.

2:24:10 And now, back to Real News. I'm sure you've heard of the term Netflix and chill, or maybe you're one of the people who hasn't. Just in case, let me break it down for you. Break it down. It's slang for visiting a partner or a friend with benefits to engage in sexual activities while chilling back and watching Netflix. Have you heard of this trend, John? Netflix and chill. Netflix and chill? Yes. This is a term that is well known. You haven't heard this one yet? No. Okay. Yeah, it's it's your baby come over for Netflix and chill. You know I'm saying also known as a booty call. It's a booty call. It's not just something called an old phrase. Yeah, but it's a new phrase for booty call. It's Netflix and chill is your booty call and watch a Netflix

2:24:51 Also known as a booty call. It's not just something college kids are doing It's something a lot of people are partaking in a new study from Cambridge University shows Netflix may actually be killing your sex life Oh my god yikes the study shows people are having less sex because they're staying up late binge-watching House of Cards Scandal orange is the new but now wait for it wait for these statistics black and whatever else tickles their fancy according According to previous studies, lack of sleep severely affects a person's sex drive. Let's take a look at some numbers. In 1990, couples between the ages of 16 and 64 had sex an average of five times a month. Stop right there. Is this America? What was the average and what was the age group? It was 16 to 64. Well, that's too broad of a group. Of course it is because kids, they're not that great.

2:25:47 But five times a month? It's ridiculous to even say anything because you have so many people over 60. Yeah, five times a month I can see that. Somebody 18? If you're making love five times a month, do you need to get divorced? I'm serious. Now that number has been dropping gradually. In the year 2000, it was four times a month. Now let's jump forward to 10 years, placing us at 2010. That number dropped to just three times a month. And wait for it. Now with the sex rate shrinking, the study shows by the year 2030, couples are not going to be having sex at all. All thanks to Netflix. The science is in. No one's going to have sex because of Netflix. Yeah. Really?

2:26:36 How's that any different than television? It's of course it's not different. This is binge watching. Binge watching. I don't think so. You're going to play this guy. I can't believe, but I can't believe in, and first of all, this may only be with someone else. I'm pretty sure the American public is having a lot of sex. You know, we're just all whacking off. We got too much porn. We're the inventors of porn. But if you're not having sex with your wife or partner, husband, three times, four times a month, You need to reconsider. Yeah, you should. So let's play, I got one similar stupid thing. I want you to, I just found this to be, it's probably not as funny as that, but I just found this to be like, what? Here we are at PBS, the Broadway guy, the Broadway reviewer from the New York Times is on who's just kind of an insufferable, kind of stick up his ass guy. Let me guess, gay guy?

2:27:32 Apparently, yes, usually it's a Broadway guy. So he's there and he's talking about some revisions or some new stuff coming out and what's gonna happen with it because the Tonys are tonight. Tonys! And so he says something in this little thing, you may or may not catch it, I sure did. And nobody, no, Judy didn't catch it, and direct, nobody catches this. And off we go talking about something else because nobody cares, they're just reading from a prompter, except this guy's not. So let's play this. A young actress named Cynthia Erivo in the musical The Color Purple. which came in from London. It had been on Broadway not that long ago, but this is a pared-down revival from John Doyle and she is extraordinary. She plays, it's based on Alice Waters' novel, and she plays a very repressed woman, young girl really, who grows into her sense of herself and watching Cynthia Erivo grow in presence on stage is like watching a star being born before your eyes.

2:28:33 Do you know this wait wait wait? I wanted I want to see if I could catch it you you're gonna catch it Okay, go ahead say it again Alice Waters Alice Waters the Alice Waters novel Yeah, Alice Waters is the woman who owns shape and ease she's a chef cook restaurateur the person he's referring to is Alice Walker Oh But apparently he had food on his mind or something. I don't even know where he would come up with Alice Waters. And there was lots of corrections for that, I'm sure. There was no corrections whatsoever. Who cares? That's a good one. I'll give you a borderliner for that. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

2:29:28 In the morning! That's where you can start. Okay, well Don O'Malley is the surdoom, the liberator of the hen house. The Hennepin slaves, yes. Oh, the Hennepin slaves. He came in with $150. Yeah. And I know a bunch of these are definitely legit. Yeah. Olaf Wolff, as we did him last time, John Ocurto in Dunedin, Florida, $111.79. Daniel McTough in Silver Springs, Maryland, $100.

2:30:09 I think Trevor. I think we did Trevor. Yeah, Trevor and Kevin strange. I think so yep You guys are getting double mentions. We got Ryan ghouls and Luke door like there. We did him We did Brian Irwin Kent Anderson Alan boulder off Sir Joel the Battle Born Knights or Matt Baron of Melbourne right Melbourne geez sir No, sir herb lamb is new. That's a new one He's the Baron of Beaufort Dam. Sugar Hill, yeah. He comes in as a, he came in with the, with the 8008, which I had hidden in the, one of the pictures as a, as a Easter egg. Very nice. Every, yeah. So he got us all that tons of money. Then we have,

2:30:59 I don't know, do we do Mira? No, no, no, Mira's new. You have to read the whole note. Yeah, Ranganathan, Ranganathan, Ranganathan in Hampton, Middlesex, Great Britain, 6969, Roland Bluer. Oh, hi, A and J. My contributions are finally added up to more than $1,000. I'd like you to knight my husband, Paul, as surplus of Middlesex and be served samosa and chai at the round table. Hold on, let me put that in there. Samosa and chai. I think Roland Boulder and Sir Hurtgen Bosch. No, we did that one. He was in the last show. Now, the ones we know we didn't do, and there's also Howard LeHero in Worcester, Worcester, 6502, but all these are new, which is Andrew Wirt in Sacramento, California. These are all palindromes. These are the 61 whatever, 6116s. Jonathan Jobin in Vancouver, BC. Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

2:31:59 John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida. Anonymous in Leechburg, Pennsylvania is 5555. Some jumped over a bunch of people. John Knowles in Murfreesboro. Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida. And then we have Brad Bauer in Chicago. And he's got a birthday coming up. And he needs job karma. So I'm gonna give everybody a jobs karma at the end here. Okay, so now we go back to the normals and we got Sir Shaker Maker of the Black Forest. Not sure if that was mentioned last time. 5510 Brent Knudsen in Appleton, Wisconsin, which I did. We did mention Les Fogg. Les Fogg and more sex in Bristol Avon.

2:32:44 50-50 I like I like I like what he said there Thanks for so much for you do it reminds me. I'm not alone when often when I mean a slave meeting I think to myself. What would John say now? This is bullcrap is the usual answer You gotta have the voice right bullcrap oh crap Carl Hamburger in Rochester, New York Mr.. DH slammer there I said actually said the age. Oh, okay. Sorry. And he has a birthday. He's got a birthday coming up. Somebody's got a birthday. Jeffrey Montagna. We had him before. That's a dupe.

2:33:25 Edgar Alma Gower is a dupe and watch a hatchet etch to watch a hatchet, Texas Tim just do them all the 50s as you get through. Yeah, okay? These are all 50s done name and location and you get a double if you did it last show Tim a bell in Bergfield Jonathan Meyer in Xenia Xenia, Ohio Jesse knowlet in Arlington, Texas Michael Vicklund in parts unknown and Edward, Missouri, and Memphis, Tennessee, Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio. Richard Gardner, parts unknown, Christina Fabiani, Hamilton, Ontario, Michael Madaloni, Chicago, Drew Mochak in, he's over here, getting another credit, in El Cerrito, David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.

2:34:16 Terry Ring has a birthday coming up on Mineola. She sent a note in wondering if she could do a birthday call out for her husband. She had a very sweet note. Yes, I have it all. He's on the list and you're on the list too. So that concludes our group. Even with the dupes, it's not that big. No. I want to remind people we do have a show coming up on Thursday where we're going to discuss some things that are Maybe the Trump speech of Hillary. I wonder if he's gonna do it, you know, how he's gonna present this. I remember when Ross Perot was running as a third-party candidate and he bought all this airtime. And I always thought it was very effective. Yeah, he did a late night infomercial. Yeah, he did a bunch of infomercials. I thought it was extremely effective.

2:35:00 with these little cards. It's like a PowerPoint thing, you know, it's a little card. He had a little card that he'd show and he'd say, here's the chicken plucker, here's the chicken pluckers, and he would show how people were going to be chicken pluckers because of the NAFTA agreement. And he had these little graphs, little charts and graphs. He says, here's where we are, here's where we're going, and here's what's going to happen. And they were very explanatory. I thought they were extremely effective because you look at the chart. You know, it's like a little PowerPoint thing when it's like a piece of paper and you go, that's interesting. That's not good because people like to say, I mean, they would respond to charts. I don't believe Trump's going to have a clue and he's going to just yak. No, I think he'll do teleprompter. I think he'll be very, very, very, very specific. Yes, but unless there's charts, unless there's something that people can see, they're just going to see a gap. They're talking off of a teleprompter. Miles will send me the send me a memo, write it up.

2:35:54 Well, that's a good point. He could do my heat. Well, maybe someone will do that. Well, if they do it, it'll be effective because it was very effective with Ross Perot. Well, we want to thank everyone who supported us for today's show, although it was a little confusing. If you weren't mentioned or if something was wrong or incorrect, just let us know. We'll fix it all. Sorry, we're just a small staff here and about to get even smaller. Who's quitting? Who's getting fired? Then what? I know. No, it's not gonna happen at all, at all, at all. So thank you very much. It's highly appreciated. And as John said, who knows what will be on Thursday, but we'll need your support for sure. Dvorak.org slash N-A-M-E. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2:36:43 You've got karma. Today on the list, Sir Andrew turns 8 on June 14th. Happy birthday in advance. Terry says happy birthday to her husband Paul Ring. And Brad Bauer celebrated yesterday, June 11th. And we say happy birthday to everybody on the list from your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Okay, two nightings today. This is good. People who have been around for a long time supporting us with as much as they can. And eventually you can get there. It's really nice how that works.

2:37:21 Your blade, sir. Uh, hold on, hold on. I gotta get some WD-40. Okay, okay. Here it comes. Got it, got it. What happened to your ranch hand? I couldn't find it. I've lost it in the house. on the podium. We welcome Master Andrew and Paul, who will both be joining the roundtable here. We have all we house our knights and our dames. This of course is for those who supported the best podcast in the universe, the amount of $1,000 or more. And therefore very, very proud to pronounce the K-D. Master Andrew, you will become Sir Andrew, Knight of the Mountains, the care of Baron D. H. Slammer. And Paul, you become Sir Paul of Middlesex, care of your wife Marina Ranganathan. And for you, we've got

2:38:08 Oh my goodness, hookers and blow, rentboys and chardonnays, most and child, legos and leg warmers, and we've got hookers and blow, rentboys and chardonnays, ginger ale and gerbils, mutton and mead, breast milk and pabulum. Sorry, a little long on the music. The music didn't support the whole reading of the list. No, I noticed it crapped out. Thank you, thank you. And go to noahjennation.com slash rings, and I will get out to you as soon as possible. And knowing Eric, we might send you three. Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. That's a good one. Yeah, let's hope not. It is, uh, it is of course Sunday. I don't know if you have anything, but I think, uh... The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's right everybody, time for tech news. This is not where the tech horny hang out. This is where the real deal takes place. I just realized, Monday,

2:39:04 This is going to be a crazy day. We'll also be one of those sneaky Apple announcement events. So we'll have Donald Trump, but of course if Apple comes out... That's the Warriors game, don't forget that. The Warriors game, yes. We'll have everyone talking about the Chonies. And the Chonies will be... well, that's tonight. We'll have to get up early on Monday. No. I will. I love it. You got any tech news, John? I do. I got this. This is a disgusting story that's not reported. I didn't see it reported on any of the mainstream media in the United States. All right. And the disgusting part is that it would be at the end of the story.

2:39:45 This is a Tesla story and Deutsche Welle. This is the DW on Tesla. Okay. Okay. Commissions data, malfunctioning airbags, accident causing ignition failures. Investigators, they've had their hands full, probably being irregularities in the car industries in the last few months. And now Tesla. Tesla Motors, maybe the company The next car manufacturer in regulatory hot water, the United States Transportation Authority is investigating potential suspension problems in Tesla's popular model S sedan. The investigation was instigated after several customers filed complaints against the electric car manufacturer.

2:40:28 The NHTSA also said it was concerned about reports Tesla had required customers to sign non-disclosure agreements which could prevent them from reporting technical problems with their cars. Wow. This is a douchebag thing to do. Well, hold on. Let's make sure we, uh... Douchebag. Douchebag him. Very douchebaggy. But here's the thing that I don't think they get because this is typical of the technology industry. Yeah. Yeah. Let's make them sign a nondisclosure. So everyone signs these stupid things and now they're going to provide, make you sign a nondisclosure so you can't report flaws and somebody gets killed. This company is out of business overnight. I think actually when you get into the Tesla and you turn it on, there's a big terms of service screen you have to say yes to.

2:41:21 It's just like Apple. It's just like, who knows? Maybe Apple may have in their terms of service the same thing. This is a violation of the public trust. Well, let me... This will be the worst thing that could ever happen to this company is if something was wrong with the car that never got reported because of these, this term, this not terms of service, but the nondisclosure agreement. And if somebody gets killed, the company is going to be hugely liable. Well, they're already in some other... And if that's what they want, they want to play that stupid game with nondisclosures, Yeah, good luck. I'm gonna give you another borderliner for this Borderline I had not heard this what I know what I just not reported here But what I did hear which was reported here And this is while the Muhammad Ali thing was going on for hours and hours, but you couldn't watch anything on TV at least not in cable news The 10 key Tesla released their 10 Q which is the quarterly financial report and

2:42:19 And you know they had that's 1,000. Isn't that a 10K? I'm not sure. No, it's the Q. Oh, he gone. A K or Q. No, I'm not sure. It might've been reported in the Q for the reasons for what it is. Now, what Elon Musk did and what Tesla did is they said, okay, everybody want the Model 3, make your reservation. And they used to ask for $5,000, non-refundable now is 1,000 refundable. And they got a huge amount of people. Somewhere near $265 million they picked up in cash. But according to their Wall Street reporting, I can hear you clicking on the keyboard already. Here's what's in the report. They have used this money to pay off existing debt. Okay.

2:43:18 You see, the problem with this is that Tesla is now having issues raising enough money to continue. So all analysts who did report on this pretty much universally say this is very, very precarious because they have to come up with cars. So what Elon Musk has done with this by using this money to pay off, you know, to service existing debt is he has to come up with new financing within the next 10 to 12 months. Real financing, like billions of financing. Otherwise, they're just not going to make it.

2:44:00 And also these thousand dollars, they're refundable. So at a certain point, I want my money back. Everyone's starting to ask for their money back. It could be a problem. This kind of news might create that. This is going to happen because the Model 3 is, they've got so many orders, it's not completely out of control. There's no evidence they can produce this car, especially in quantities. And people are going to be, they don't want to wait two or three years at some point. They say, give me my thousand bucks back. I want to go get something else. Yeah, exactly. And it kind of flows into something else because of course Elon is such a hero. Oh Elon! He's the man, he is so fabulous. Everyone fawns over him and oh my goodness he believes we live in a simulation. He's the master. Oh Elon! That's right. Here's Nancy Pelosi with something she was talking about.

2:44:51 I tweeted a link to this short clip, but it folds right into this Elon bull crap. In this smartphone, almost everything came from federal investments in research. GPS created by the military, flat screens, LLD, digital... It's LCD. LLD. LLD. It's LCD, darling. Created by the military, flat screens, LLD, digital camera, wireless data compression, research... Alloys for strength and lightweight voice recognition. The list goes on and on. If you want to know more, look at the Association for the Advancement of Science in America and they have the full list. They say Steve Jobs did a good idea designing it and putting it together. Federal research invented it.

2:45:46 Bull crap. And, but you know, there are people who say, yeah, this is, this is part of the Elizabeth Warren meme. You know, you are a billionaire, not because you're great, but because we gave you roads and we gave you money. You know, we gave you research and you know, it's like, you can't, cause this is for the people. It's all for the people. It's, you know, you shouldn't take all that. And what's coming next, of course, you know, that now we're going to start claiming that the iPhone is a, is a US government invention. What a crock. And it was in one of our dames on the face bag responded to this and she said, oh, I think that's totally true. You know, this is how it works. I have a client right now who is using a US patent. And I said, oh, great. Did he have to pay a license fee or did he get it for free seeing as we already paid for it? No, he has to pay a license. Oh, okay. Just wanted to check. It's called double dipping.

2:46:44 But this is all part of the, you can take this to Black Lives Matter. If this is true, then black people, brown people, everyone except the red people, get the F out. Not your land, you didn't build it, we stole it, we all stole it from the Native Americans. What a slap in the face this lady is. Oh, she's terrible. And Elon Musk has pretty much built his businesses on government money as well. big subsidies which we're now giving to other countries because of course the Tesla is available around the world so that they're enjoying the subsidies that United States prisoners have given Tesla. And then finally there was a report about all of these different, they're called AI but they're not. It's just a search engine with a bad interface because voice recognition shit just doesn't work.

2:47:45 Kids are becoming very rude, mainly because of the Amazon Echo device. And I see this happening in myself, but also people who are in my house. You know, when Alexa, when she doesn't respond, then people get a little huffy. You know, Alexa, Alexa do this! I saw my daughter do it too. And parents are now saying, these young kids who love, love this device. And of course there's others, there's Siri and Google and Cortana and all that. But when they don't give an answer, then these kids get all huffy and they start yelling and cursing at them.

2:48:21 Another dynamite development for technology none of this yeah, we're people making the world a better place none of this ends Well is that it you got anything else? Tech news um let me make sure I got how to play that there's no crying Okay, there's no crying in barbecue That's not tech news No, that's not Are you spent I think I'm done with tech news? Once again bringing you the tech news it's the only news that really matters it really is I got one here that needs to be played you know that we discussed a little bit the I didn't realize that you just this huge

2:49:15 nationwide, worldwide, everybody being upset. Nobody cares about the rape kits that have never been, nobody cares to look at them. So they're sitting there backed up, but everyone's all bent out of shape about the guy at Stanford and Stanford. In fact, in fact, there was another slam piece. Hold on, just back up one second, John. Explain the rape kits, the issue there. There are so many rape kits, some of them are years and years behind ever being checked out. They're just piling up everywhere across the whole country. Because DNA evidence takes quite a while to actually come back with it, right? Well, mostly yes. Except on TV. They're not even doing them. So I got two clips that have something to do with this. One is, I thought was an interesting slam. This is the Stanford is now the rape capital.

2:50:05 NPR is reporting the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights is now investigating five sexual violence cases at Stanford University. That's more than any other school in the country. Nice! That doesn't include the one guy, that one guy that everyone's all bent out of shape about. But here's what bothers me. This whole thing is being orchestrated by the Daily Costs and MoveOn.org. Oh, really? Listen to this report and then listen to the kicker at the end. And by the way, stop. The guy who is the spokesperson that comes in and starts talking and bitching and moaning, he's from the Daily Kos. Yeah, I wish I could. I wish I knew which clip it was. I'm sorry. OK, this is. Oh, sorry. Move on. Look for move on rape case boxes. I don't have that. Move MOV. Move.

2:51:05 Yeah, you do Move on rape cakes boss. I don't have that you see Modi. Yeah, yes Yeah, and there's look what happened above it and Napolitano below it. That's odd. I should only have Obama in Afghanistan Taliban No, we're done. Oh, yeah, Obama Afghanistan Taliban and above that is Napolitano and above that should be move on rape kit well It's not, interestingly, it's not in the list but I just did a search of the whole machine and it showed up so we'll take it. Judge Aaron Persky for misconduct. They also want Santa Clara County to review the six-month jail sentence. This all comes as women's advocacy groups deliver boxes of petitions to have the judge removed.

2:51:56 Activists from MoveOn.org and Daily Cause delivered nearly 1 million signatures to the San Francisco offices of the Commission on Judicial Performance. The judge's sentence has sparked national outrage. Turner faced up to 14 years in prison for assaulting an unconscious woman outside of a frat party last year, and he got six months. This is a miscarriage of justice. It is an outrage. And it speaks not only to the condoning of rape culture in our criminal justice system, but an epidemic of judges letting criminals off who are rich and powerful.

2:52:35 Now activists complain they had to leave the boxes on a ledge instead of being allowed to hand them over to the commission. But it turns out we learned those boxes were for show. They were empty. The signatures were delivered on a thumb drive. So they're bitching, hold on a second, they're bitching about, oh we didn't get, didn't let us drop the boxes off and the boxes were empty. So this was a staged event by these two operations that move on, we know them, and Daily Kos is a blog. I'm finding this whole thing to be quite peculiar. Not because the guy's not a douchebag, the kid, I mean he looks like one, but it's because of this, the way they're doing this, this kind of thing, staging them, box, there was like shit loads of people with boxes. Oh we got the boxes, we want to drop the boxes off and the boxes are just empty boxes. And how does it work? That's the point of this. And how does it work to say

2:53:32 Judges let the rich and powerful off, but at the same time, hey man, that judge for Trump is all right. Isn't Trump rich and powerful? Yes. Yeah, the judge for Trump is fine. Yeah, can't have it all. But Trump, right. Yeah, there's a little, this is all bullshit. This is on a lot of levels. Yeah. It's annoying to watch. I have two things I wanted to share. This was, this was interesting. Um, I've always learned that, yes, you need to have some kind of dictator figure, but fascism is collusion between the commercial private sector and the government. That is one definition at least. Corporatism. Corporatism for sure. And now we're going to institutionalize it. We will listen to our Secretary of the Department of Defense, Ash Carter. Seeking to create a new two-way talent exchange program with the private sector.

2:54:30 Right now we have very few such programs with very limited scope. If we want to send a civilian from the Defense Logistics Agency or Transcom to spend six months at a place like Amazon or FedEx... To weaponize them? To see what we might be able to learn, there's no formal mechanism for that. And the same goes for the opposite direction, if we want to host people from those other companies. So we want to create a program to facilitate that, with all the proper ethical safeguards of course. And being able to temporarily exchange civilian employees, talent, and best practices with some of America's best and most innovative companies will help DOD stay on the cutting edge and be more efficient and effective. Now, as ominous as it sounds, I think what they might be doing here is an end-around way to get drug-smoking engineers into doing something for the government.

2:55:26 Oh, yeah, that's the problem. That's a good one. We can't we can't recruit because you can't hire them. Yeah, they won't they won't get past any security whatsoever So our government is in terms of cyber use that term in terms of cyber You can't get anybody that's got any talent because all the talented people are crazy We're a little odd. We know many of them our names are all different Ben, I mean this is very hard stuff. And so they set for a very few guys and we do have a few listeners that are working for the government and managing because they ex-military usually. And so they get through this problem. But a lot of the extremely talented hackers can't get a job in the government. The government needs them. And so this may be an end run. You may have nailed it.

2:56:16 So the basic thesis about the fascism isn't accurate, but it sounds like it. Sounds good. Oh crap, there's one thing. This was important. I'm sorry I forgot about this. Again, we heard, who was it? Who yelled at Donald Trump about not using their song at rallies? Who was it this time? Loads. We have had REM, we've had the Rolling Stones. And we've discussed on this program before that you cannot Legally, it's statutory. You cannot forbid someone from playing your record at an event. That is, the venue of course has to have an ASCAP, BMI, or both blanket license and then there's statutory amounts. This is all codified in law.

2:57:10 I just wanted to reiterate it because people don't really believe it and there is also as far as I could find as far as I was able to research not a single artist has ever even sued someone over the use of their song and the reason why is because they can't and I'll just give it to you this ASCAP released a nice little I don't know where this is from but it's the political campaign usage of political campaign music I just want to read these two for you because, you know, this is... these stories are great, you know. It's like, don't use my song. Don't use my song. Question. What license does a campaign need to play music at a campaign event? First of all, many venues have proper public performance licenses. As a general rule, the licenses for convention centers, arenas, and hotels exclude music used during conventions, expositions, and campaign events. If a campaign is holding many events at dozens of different venues, it may be easier for the campaign itself to obtain a public performance license from ASCAP.

2:58:07 Or other and the other two US performing rights organizations if the music is licensed through one of them this would guarantee that no matter where you have a campaign stop it would be in compliance with copyright law. Now there are three ways that someone could sue, let's just use Donald Trump as an example, there are three ways you can do that. But none of it have to do with copyright. So, if a campaign events are properly licensed, can the campaign still be criticized or even sued by an artist for playing his or her song at an event? The answer is yes, but not because of the copyright. You can sue because of number one, right of publicity, which in many states provides image protection for famous people or artists. So, if you play the Rolling Stones and you're saying, hey, Rolling Stones,

2:58:56 Or you have images of them, that could be an issue. Number two is one I'm very familiar with. This is the lawsuit MTV sued me through the Lanham Act, which covers confusion or dilution of a trademark through its unauthorized use. That is really open to interpretation in this case. I really don't think the Lanham Act can apply. And the false endorsement, which is the third one on the list, is applicable when use of an artist identifying work implies the artist supports a product or candidate. That one's off the table because if you stand up and say, hey, screw this, I don't, I don't, I'm not allowing you to use it, it's pretty obvious it's not an endorsement. So there's no recourse. There's no recourse.

2:59:45 And certainly no one's going to go after the Lanham Act. It would take maybe... Why would you want to do that when you pretty much got yourself in the public eye by saying, oh, I forbid you from using it. But they cannot forbid it. As long as they have their... perform to the PRO organizations, as long as that's all taken care of, then no way. There you go. There you go. Only on no agenda would you learn this. Well, we've talked about it enough, but I figured it was finally time just to... And then, and of course, we have this We have all of the, all the PDFs, et cetera. So all the news stories that bring this up are just a bunch of slanted stories trying to slam somebody. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, for bands or artists to say this, you know, it's okay. You can say, I, Hey, I don't want this, but really you're better shutting up and saying, Hey, he's using this like it's a, like I'm endorsing and then go. But if you come out publicly and say, no, no, no, no, no. You can't have that third option.

3:00:43 Oh, it's just not true. Now, I feel personally there should be huge fines against the playing of Tiny Dancer. I think that should be illegal in whatever case. Okay. Trump. Do you have a clip? No. You know Trump plays Tiny Dancer at every single campaign rally. I think we talked about this. He's pulled it. No, I heard it just the other day. Did you now? He brought it back, yeah. Dumb. Here's another piece of unreported news. This was actually for the last show. Let's play it. This is, this, nobody's talking about this. This is all, everyone's talking about the campaign. They're talking about this, talking about that. But meanwhile, we got this guy floating around. This is Modi, the head of India, is in the United States floating around. In Washington, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has called for his country and the United States to forge closer ties on security issues and the fight against terrorism.

3:01:37 Modi made the appeal in an address to a joint session of Congress. The speech is the high point of his three-day visit to the U.S. On Tuesday, he held talks with President Barack Obama on a range of subjects. And correspondent Miodrag Sorge is covering all of this for us from Washington. So, Miodrag, how did the Indian prime minister present himself today? I think he did very well. It was a very American speech. It was very personal. He mentioned, for example, when he was a young man that he traveled the U.S. from coast to coast, that he has seen more than 25 states. He said, thank you.

3:02:14 America for fighting international terrorism. He said he loves American people for, you know, for the value that they stand for, liberty and freedom. And let me have a look at the statistic. He was interrupted by applause from the members of Congress more than 60 times. A speech that is only 50 minutes long. I think this is not bad. That sounds all nice and good. But let's talk about the bottom line here. How would you assess this trip? Did it achieve anything that was concrete? I think it's more than only a symbolic visit. America and India are not allies, but they are some sort of partners trying to balance China's rise in Asia. And I think this brings the US and India together.

3:02:58 Now, when we look at Modi and especially his relationship with the United States, it was not always a good one. Just walk us through exactly what the issue was and now where things stand at this moment. You're right. 2002, Modi was chief minister in a part of India where it came to, let's say, religious motivated riots and more than 1,000 Muslims died. And the US said to some extent Modi is responsible for that. And they didn't allow Modi to enter the US. And right now, of course, the situation has changed. Relationships are much better.

3:03:34 And I think there are a lot of common interests. You cannot solve any global problems without India. Think about climate change, think about proliferation, think about fighting international terrorism. Mia Draxorich in Washington, thank you. In business news, the ECB is... I don't know why it's on there, but yeah. Nobody did he spoke before Congress and no big deal. I guess nobody paid any attention to even see it on C-SPAN This may be a stretch, but that the guy was named the nominee from the nuclear board Raj Raj. What was his name? Yeah Raj Raj Mitaj Raj or Rav Raj Sheldon Raj something or other now is he Indian? I know he's from Chicago

3:04:23 He's Indian or Pakistani that would be very important to know oh Because if you're on the nuclear advisory board as one of the two yeah That could now we're more friends with Pakistan yes, I believe so goes back to the Cold War because the Indians were big buddies with Russia and they ended up buying signing on and so all the Air Force of Army, everything in India is all Russian gear. And so we got irked about that, of course. And so we made buddies with Pakistan and sold them our stuff. Let me see. Born July 8, 71. America businessman, philanthropist, chairman and CEO of Scoutahead.com, which I guess is a headhounding firm. See, born in, born to C.K. and Laura Fernando, living in Denmark. Hmm.

3:05:21 Interesting. You have to look into this guy a little more. Yeah, this is... There's something very fishy about him. This is just too easy. But he did, he founded Chopper Trading Chicago, that was the, that's a flash trading company. That's what he was. He's a flash trader. He's one of the leading flash traders, I'm reading here. Hmm. Hmm. But there's no mention of India or Pakistan anywhere. But he's, of course it shouldn't make any difference. No, he is of Indian descent. I got it here now. Okay. So he's probably a Hindu. Or he could be a Muslim. There's more Muslims in India than there are in Pakistan, damn near. But I would say if you're on the Nuclear Security Advisory Board and you're kind of thrown in there and you may have allegiance to one of the two nuclear powers that are annoying, India and Pakistan, there might be a problem with that. I would think. That's probably what they didn't want to look into. They had to quit.

3:06:24 I don't want to quit! You have to quit. Final one, pizza bullcrap, you need to see the video if you have a chance because it makes it that much funnier. A swarm of earthquakes rattled Southern California while you were sleeping. The largest was about 5.2 in the desert south. 5.2 what? 5.2 what? 5.2. Just 5.2. It's no longer the Richter scale, it's the new bull crap scale. 5.2. Bull crap scale. And they can't even say what scale it is because it's not Richter. There's no scale. 5.2, just a 5.2. But here's the funnier part. In California while you were sleeping, the largest was about 5.2 in the desert south of Palm Springs. Caltech seismologists say there have been nearly 350 aftershocks

3:07:04 Most of them are very small. You're looking at a U.S. Geological Survey map of that cluster of aftershocks overnight. Home security cameras show the shaking right there, about one this morning. The CBS television station in Southern California also shared video of a seismograph recording the quakes. So they're showing this graph. You see it going up and down for the quakes. There is no legend on the X or the Y axis. It's just a graph, a couple of lines. Doesn't say... doesn't even have numbers on it. Just going up and down. What kind of... what kind of... That's all you need, slave. People across the Los Angeles and San Diego regions don't quake. Shut up, slave! I just need to shut up, slave. That's exactly right. Oops. I need this one is what I need. There we go. Alrighty.

3:07:54 Well, it's gonna be a strange weekend, a strange couple of days, and we will be all over, we'll be working very hard for you, for sure. Because we got a ton of things to do. Including the Chonies, to be honest. Yeah, the Tonys, you know. It's always, it's just never an up to par kind of event. It's just, you'd think for people that know how to put on a show, although they're, the one thing, they do have a lot of, pretty much the best number of each show is done on the stage with the cast, and that's probably the only thing worth watching. So you get to see another little piece of Hamilton. Yeah! Which we still have not seen.

3:08:35 It's gonna show up as San Francisco apparently on the road tour. But you know, it's just a play. Or a musical. There's plenty of them. But it's so genius, John. So genius. Alright everybody, thank you very much for checking us out on the live stream or on the podcast. Remember us for our show on Thursday at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in the skyscraper in Austin Tejas, downtown that is, FEMA Region 6 in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'll be, uh, I don't know what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna probably take a nap, I'm John C. DuBois. We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Adios, mofos.

3:09:28 You know, the Great Recession was caused by too much regulation. You know? My God, for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! As you all know, for more than 20 years following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States has sought to build a constructive relationship with Russia and to support that country's greater integration into regional and global institutions and the rules-based international order.

3:10:05 Our working assumption in doing this was that a more integrated, democratic, secure, and prosperous Russia would be a safer, more predictable, and willing partner for the United States and our allies. By 2014, however, we had no choice but to re-evaluate our assumptions following Russia's invasion of sovereign Ukrainian territory, first in Crimea and then in eastern Ukraine, which shattered any remaining illusions about this Kremlin's willingness to abide by international law,

3:10:48 or live by the rules of the institutions that Russia joined at the end of the Cold War. You will obey. Based on divisions of race or religion... Sounds funnier. Sounds funnier.

3:11:37 I know that you're doing another one of your coveted Miss USA reports, which I'm very excited about. I think in time I would love to see a female put these 44 men down. But, hold, and they walk down the street, but should should be put these forty four see you doing another one of the street they'd be sweeping the sidewalk candidacy of bernie sand butthole and are pursued by the zombie candidacy of bernie floating who looks and i've come to this conclusion i'm gonna go with ya butt should be a floating war machine being pursued by the i've come to this conclusion

3:12:28 In time I would love to see a female put these 44 men down. Now you put a broom in there. I know that you're doing good by the sun, man. Lovely, lovely. I'm a fan of yours. Ha! Should we walk? I'm gonna go with David Ike here. Adios, mofo.