Dead Men Can't Sue

00:00 These guys are in a bubble. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday March 27th 2016 time once again via Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 811! This is no agenda Still wearing our parka as the US political hell freezes over and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm not cold, I'm John C. Dvorak. Have to look up this I have to look at the schedules now as a certified foamer You are a foamer. It's true just in case and forgot you're a foamer this truffle well welcome to the only podcast that Writes its name in the sky Yes, I saw that you posted that on the down the Twitter. I did yeah what to explain? What happened oh

01:13 We decided to do some digital skywriting by following a GPS track and reporting that back to the ground stations where everyone could watch it being drawn live on the web. And it's still there today. I'll bet you packed them in for that one! You know, but a lot of people liked it John. In fact, a lot of people sent me letters... I liked it, It was just- I'm definitely not gonna be watching it live action. What were you doing Saturday? Bing! Instead of watching- I was watching Grass Grow. Instead of watching your colleague promote the show... A little more excited. I was watching paint dry. What what? That's interesting, you know when the paint dries it kind of lightens up You are such... Never mind And now i see why the ITMS looks... Because you did like you could do it all in one thing Yes. You should do it again in script

02:15 What was cool about it is that I took along my my ham radio, my digital you know My hand thing. Wait let's get that preface again Yeah what was cool? It was cool about it Was that I brought my my handheld and I was beaconing every 30 seconds on APRS down to just ham radio ground stations, digipeters and that showed up on APRS.fi so you could see our track on multiple platforms. Holy crap! You're so disingenuous it's showing

02:53 Well, a lot of people liked it. I'm sure there were four or five people some old guys old geezers As you like to call them that just thought it was great? I thought it was the creative thing and it was posted on Twitter so thousands of people saw it in that form yeah Wondering what the hell is this? I wanted to read a comment to you because i also posted it in like a ham radio reddit group. A ham radio Reddit group! Wow Let me see if I can find this because you'll crack up here we go so I put it kind of... Here it is This is so bad all right

03:38 So I posted my little blog to the Reddit amateur radio group and here's the guy first response. What were you going for? That drawing looks like nothing! Also, this guy in Japan made a proposal by walking the entire islands of Japan with his GPS much more epic than having someone fly you around for an hour. Oh welcome to the internet. These are ham radio guys yeah It infects everybody. Unbelievable, unbelievable! Anyway so that was just a little distraction

04:22 Liked it. I like I enjoy to be seriously, I thought it was I thought it was on some level cool Yeah, that's all we were going for some level That's about the extent of what we can do here John is just We're not really good at some level where somehow we're kind. I'm not quite sure how but we may be cool. Yeah gonna work on it Nobody else did it? That's what I'm saying boy anyway okay well I've been just reading Dutch stuff and You've been reading, doing a lot of reading? Yeah. Just seeing what I can catch more from Brussels and understand it a little bit more. Before we go on let's start with a little light... you know this guy Mike Morrell? Yeah of course he was the deputy chief, the CIA guy. He is on a lot of stuff. He is trying to become like a normal guy or your regular Catherine Herridge type. Now I think what happened, do you recall Mike left and then he was going to have this big Silicon Valley funded venture where he would have all these great

05:24 Spy stuff based upon his experience. I don't think that really is a year out. I don't think it panned out Well, there's something about him that bothers me and I think there's a reason that he's never really gonna get dead gig He's looking for and I think okay I've summarized it by cutting down a couple of his clips to see if you can see what the common The common theme is here that would probably annoy yes Can I guess what it is? I'm going to write it. I'm going to right yeah, I'm going to write it down Writes it down. I'm going to write it down Is this the short clip you've produced? This is the clip by producers called Mike Morrell in the days and weeks ahead right here at home as well, right So we don't know right dates right with a defense right security Intelligence all right the leadership level right the local level right communications right apartment right there guy in the mosque, right? All right bend over here you go might as well get into your Idaho

06:22 It's not really a clip. No, but I'll take it everybody felt so bad about your massive cutting room floor failure Did you did you pick up the pieces from the cutting room floor? Yeah Oh everyone wanted to hear that it's coming. It's coming Tina was on with in tears Because we knew you set it up and it was so beautiful Then there was something else funny that happened So she'd know she's I know she was reading off or some time email to me and she says Let me see if I can find exactly what it was. He said something to the effect of... hold on, let me find this What's the title of it? Hmm? Well this is starting off great! Yeah, well I wasn't expecting to do this at this very moment. It's because you changed the show with the ICM in the sky

07:15 How can I be jinxing this show? I'm just not jinxing the show. What was Mike Morrell's jinx? What was what was the title of the newsletter with something like here is a picture you won't see on mainstream media Yes, so I haven't seen it. I'm not yes. I'm just doing something else and Tina says oh Here's a picture You will never see on Mainstream Media and my first response is wow that's some clickbait if I ever heard of it Of course It's a fact. I sent out this picture of Bernie Sanders rally, here is what happened on Friday we had dinner with the Millennials Oh boy! Be careful what you say because you're wrong no matter what you say about the Millennials any conclusions you draw your'e wrong So Jesse has these photos that were taken at one of Seattle Bernie rallies and they are just like she never sent them to me but she should have I would use those And so it is huge

08:12 outrageous, they're filling the safe code thing. You know 20 000 people was this specific to Washington though or was it no this particular one was taken from the Portland paper and this was the mode center modus center whatever it is so I think it's where that were the Portland trailblazers Play and it was filled to capacity Wow with Bernie in there And there were some clips of it, and somebody sends me a nasty no saying that's an old B roll the whole picture From someplace else you say he only got 11 thousand people in this thing I said This was died didn't know whatever. I think it's guys full of whatever the case They are not playing any of they're not putting any of these

08:53 they're not giving Bernie his due for packing in the crowds. There's this report on this local station, they'll play these things locally showed, showed Bernie's place place full. They had a live feed of this speech, people had to wait two hours before Bernie even showed up and then he comes out and you can't hear him it's ridiculous but there are people outside it is much more cramped and crowded than any Trump rally seems to me and Trump has And

09:39 The media people are not going to give Bernie any time. Bernie is out to screw them! Yeah, he's not spending any money... He is totally...he's spending money this year, he has 40 million here and there and he has a super PAC and the rest of his money being spent. That's probably what Trump is spending too. It's probably about what they're spending. They're spending money but the thing is that Bernie is the only one who is extremely sincere to the point where he's a fanatic about campaign finance reform. And this is taking the money away from the media, it's going to screw them! Half of them won't even be in business if they don't get this money. But to be honest every single candidate always talks about comprehensive campaign finance reform even Hillary but she doesn't actually walk the walk

10:30 No, they're all full of crap. They're doing it for the public. Bernie is sincere and they know it! So he gets no coverage for these things. Oh you brought in 50 000 people? Hey look there's 15 people over here protesting something let's send a crew over there yeah and so bernie's never ended and he doesn't have to do this because Nobody, I don't care. You can talk to people they always talk a big game about this but to be honest about it i don't know anyone who is sincerely all in on campaign finance reform the public especially oh my god he's in for campaign finance! I'm voting for him because of campaign finance reform! I don't even think that and he's made illusions to such if trump wins the nomination he goes into the general he'll be taking money

11:18 He's already kind of alluded to that like yeah, well you know people want to give me money. I already know his pitch What's the pitch what's the pitch? The pitches these guys are gonna bring in so they're bringing in so much money Can't you do it like Trump? I mean that's kinda disappointing. Yeah, you know I've tried I'll take whatever you got when I was at me vio they used to I was always played when they had these little dramas in their Little in the basement. They know yeah, remember those what it is could be the Trump character. They had a wig for me I did it kind of a trump this terrible do we want to give it a shot no? It's mostly the look as opposed to the way highly visual But Trump is going to say that look they're coming at him with all again all his money And he's gonna have to just to compete and

11:58 You know, he's only gonna get so much... They're not gonna give him so much free stuff anymore. He's gonna have to take some money. He's going to do it as a fallback but oh I got it! Yeah, you'll have too. But yeah So what exactly is the pitch? I'm not quite sure what the pitch is now That was the pitch I just gave you. I didn't... There was little... You know I needed tightening up. Yeah that's true. I need to tighten it up. Whatever they case and I'm using that phrase The media is not going to give Bernie a break on this because he's an idiot. He's not interested, because that wasn't what got his attraction with all the young people after him... I think you nailed it! Free school free college! College? He's boring! Since you're on that topic This was a little thing from Vox Media

12:49 And so they... It's a long piece, it's a 10 minute piece. I just took the intro one minute which was perfect. It says really cute girl millennial girl and she is convinced and she knows it's true That when Trump is elected president, then all the millennials are going to move to Canada. And so this is a whole prelude that she winds up interviewing Trudeau which was not interesting because he's just what a suck-ass that guy is oh my god He's a huge disappointment. Oh yeah But just listen to the opening I can't believe this. I'm a politician

13:27 It's f***ing believable. You can see the excitement! Look at those hands, are they small hands? People want to move! People want to move to Canada They're not acting like politicians, they're acting like middle school kids If Donald Trump is president that's gonna be a really big disaster then I'll probably have to leave the country Where would you go?! I'm going to Canada We're gonna move to Can- 28% of Americans say they will move to Canada if Donald Trump is elected president 15%, if Hillary's I agree, I would move too. We brought them the immigration papers... I have application forms for permanent residence in Canada Would you fill it out? And they were like hell yeah! Like it would be a great reality show like I would watch that show It'd be very well written honestly. It was a reality show but its real life

14:18 Wow! Yeah, reality show. Millennials move to Candenavia. That's something we could produce, John. Where did you get that? Vox. V-O-X. Vox Media. Vox. Vox. It was just like a video that's sitting there? No, it's yeah. It's a 10 minute video on you know where they she winds up interviewing Trudeau and he says well I don't come to Canada it's kind of his idea Please stay away Especially you but this would be a fantastic reality show follow these Millennials as they starved to death in Canada freeze to death in Canada Northern territories await

14:59 What's the new name for the Northern Territories? It's something Inuit City or something Take me down to Inuit city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty hmm. All right axles on the phone Yeah, so that was just one of those just one of those things Wow Let's say Trump did get elected yeah I mean, it's a lot of people. It's not just the president.

15:44 to work on the Supreme Court, you know, nominee and all this stuff. But otherwise he's not doing anything. He's not going to fight ISIS. He's not going to take care of anything. No one even talks about what shambles we're in But then it's always, yeah but everything was great because the president fixed everything. He turned into Tango in Argentina! Yeah he was really shitty he was really bad Oh you ever see him throw a baseball? Yes Michelle was good The only thing is seems to be really... he actually does seem to be able to play basketball Yeah um but Michelle was good because she had a guy leading her and then you know lead if following is much easier than leading the President was brilliant Right that never happened with Obama Really poor really really poor

16:27 All right, just hold on. I'm crazy people about Trump here's a Keith Olbermann for some reason he got he's trying to get a job or is going to be back in show business and so he's out making his normal fuss about anything it's actually any Republican but Trump's a good target uh and he may be promoting heavily does he not have a book or something out I don't know if he can write a book. Well, it was on The View usually you only get on The View if you're going to be... Yeah, I think he's getting a new gig! I think somebody finally shot the bullet and hired him. He's kind of snake bit because he's not a good employee

17:06 Although I have to say, I've always enjoyed him. We both always enjoyed him. Well here he is on The View briefly... Somebody said to me the other day and we were quite serious and you can understand when you hear these two things together they're terrifying What would happen if ISIS got nukes? They're thinking about it. All right, so I said what would happen if Donald Trump got nukes? Yeah Who would use it first? Well also but which is the more realistic concern for us at the moment? I mean the second one is a distinct visible possibility and the first one is Theoretical but very unlikely because they're difficult to move but he gets them in the day and first day in off Here's the key to your nukes mr.. President yeah, yeah that's that's right exactly how it works exactly how it works yes

17:49 Well this morning I awoke, actually it was late last night before i went to bed and the terrorists have won in Europe. The terrorists have won! Yeah-I'm sorry the terrorists have won! The march against fear scheduled to take place in Brussels has been called off... It's been called off! I wanted to get this clip so bad! It's been called off! The March Against Fear is cancelled because we're afraid. Exactly! It just doesn't get much better than that, people. That's the best news of the week The march against fear scheduled to take place in Brussels has been called off The rally due to be held on Sunday was organized to encourage solidarity in the country hit by deadly suicide bombings on Tuesday citing security concerns the Brussels mayor called for the march to be postponed to a later date

18:39 We share the emotion of the population and we prefer to leave the security forces working on the investigation. So, we ask that the march that many people us included wanted to participate in would be postponed by a few weeks." The terror threat level remains at three out of a possible four following the attacks, meaning a rally would require considerable manpower from police forces already stretched by investigations. Just sad! It's just so sad... It was funny. The irony I guess is lost but that march against fear was cancelled due to fear this is so sad they have won and then what happens this morning

19:19 is a whole bunch of people who are pissed off and not afraid go out towards the memorial there by the I think the makeshift memorial. And they start protesting and say, hey this is our home get out you foreigners! I looked at the video, this is a long report but we can just stop it wherever we want. But what she's saying you're not seeing. You're seeing a lot of people jostling around but listen... This is CNN I think. Well George the ambience here has changed a lot in the last few minutes It was just about five minutes ago that a rather large group of far right wing football hooligans

19:58 hooligans essentially marched onto this memorial square. Okay, so now the vision you have to have is a bunch of skinheads marching with jack- Jack no boots. Jack Boots You're not seeing any of that. They began chanting over and over again, Onishenu which means we are in our home this is our home essentially a sort of racist chant like... A sort of racist chant? They're saying this is our home! We're in our home that's not I mean I understand the implications but She's doing a far right, hooligans! Racist! This is our home. Essentially a sort of racist chant I can tell you that I saw several Nazi salutes. I saw several Nazi salutes You can't see them now but I saw them! I saw them! I saw them! I saw several Nazi salutes They burned the flair and now essentially what your seeing...I'm just going to step out of the way so you get a better sense of whats going on And your just seeing crowded people Yeah there are people who are mingling

21:00 And there's anger, there is anger. And were they really hooligans? Not with my trained eye they weren't but anyway... Just ridiculous so that is going on that's happening today but these people some people are not afraid just the march against fear people were afraid it's just crazy! It's really it's really really nuts Well, here was one of the reports from Deutsche Welle that kind of is another head shaker and I don't know quite match the one you just played. But play the coulda woulda shoulda in Belgium This is kind of interesting.

22:06 So people there, given all the blunders that have happened. People there must be furious that the security apparatus has failed so spectacularly? Anger is mounting and I suppose as the investigation in Parliament goes forward and more and more details come to light, hard questions will be put particularly by the Belgian media. Also imagine you were one of the family members of the victims and you have to look at these reports and see over and over again that this could have probably been prevented had the Belgian police and anti-terror agents

22:42 acted earlier and acted in unison. Finally, now we see a push. We see that they work together, that they cooperate across Europe and even with the United States. This could have been done earlier." What is the point of Five Eyes then? Well it's not Belgium No... Well I mean you can say- I would agree. I know what you're gonna say and i'm going to say too If we're supposedly, we got everybody bugged. We got everything... We've got eyes on everything. These guys are the brothers were on a terror watch list! A US terror watch list? Yeah but apparently it's ineffective Maybe they have to pay their dues for the subscription You know I get this sense during some of the reporting I had clips like maybe about just when this happened and didn't play them because i didn't get to them but yeah I always had the sense that there is

23:34 We held back information for the... so we could get in more. So, we can kind of now got our 11 FBI guys there. We being our security and law enforcement services? Yeah, our apparatus. Okay, our apparatchik. Our apparatus. Well that's right. Yes yes yes well but our apparatus so we can get into getting a little especially in this part of Belgium where the EU is located because maybe have not been able to pick up all that we haven't built a bug the entire parliament I wanted to get back to something that you said, or actually a clip that you played on the previous show. Before we do that, a couple of anomalies because now they're kind of floating to the top of things that took place during this pretty much week in Brussels...

24:19 First I have Professor Ryan Murrow. Not sure where he's professor, but anyway he was on the... it's the only place you could find a clip about this He was on The Frank Gaffney Show and Frank Gaffney runs, you know, he's like this uber-uber Jew hate-hate the... what's his... the woman The crazy woman who did the cartoon contest, what's her name? She is one of his... Oh that woman. It sounds like millennials. I'm sorry! I don't remember her name. That one. Anyway so take that with a grain of salt One other interesting detail about this suspect that was captured and has gotten some attention is he was frequently seen at

24:59 at a gay bar before drinking, before he became radicalized. And that speaks to an issue that is sensitive and the media doesn't touch upon very often which is that one of the key elements of the radicalization process is they tell people this how you atone for your sin. This is how you gain entry into paradise because you are such a dirty filthy person that you have to go die in violent jihad in order to gain entry." There ya go Pamela Geller. That's the woman I was thinking So well, I was thinking well to go continue because I have a thought on this Okay. I'm gonna go off in it's like different direction then we'll come back. I definitely want to play this clip from From the last show which I think I certainly underestimated so here is This was just a little ditty actually Brian the gay crusader caught this one. It says CNN Baron burn burn it out front

25:48 and she has a, what is it? Nick Payton-Walsh who's reporting from the scene. And just this little thing... Now what's key is that Interior Ministry officials have released a statement suggesting five people have been arrested in raids this night now It isn't clear if they're concentrated in this area those five arrests or across the capital We're not aware of any other raid occurring at this stage it seems right now are there different reports coming in but Aaron There had been a concentration of trucks down that road, which we thought potentially were police evidence vehicles. It turns out actually a film shoot has been occurring here as well but further down... Really? So there was a film shoot that had permission to film in the area The press was not allowed back there A whole bunch of trucks for a film shoot in Brussels Huh Yeah it is uh huh Now to this clip that you played

26:45 Which be just something somehow sometimes how the show works these things just pass me by but I always listen to the show after we're done and I usually find thing. Usually it's a joke that you passed off. I'm like, oh crap That was a good one. I didn't even hear it now your one-liners but then this clip The second is Ibrahim alba Crowley he was reportedly arrested in Turkey shit That's not the one. I don't remember that clip either now, that's it is your clip? That's not the one I wanted. Now I'm sorry home. Let me get the one I wanted also started with odd dammit and I say and I saved this clip right after the show because what was the one about the odd guys walking around? That's the that's a clip I'm looking for. The odd guys you remember that know

27:32 Hold on a second. Here it is, this is the one. This is the one. At the time he was The BuzzFeed News Michael Hastings Fellow Well what did they miss? Well that was a particular story about a raid that took place in a town in eastern Belgium In January of last year and it was right in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo attacks And so it didn't really get a lot of attention at the time What I did is, I went back and looked at it. And I noticed that the description of it, the reporting on it, the way that the prosecutor talked about it fit with the pattern we tend to hear about these raids—somebody who's a psychopath of some sort who goes to Syria, who returns back to Brussels. He's very Islamist radical and he wants to blow himself up and kill everyone. That made some sense but there was a third guy in that house.

28:17 They grouped him together in that category, but he didn't really fit there. He seemed to be someone who—he had never gone to Syria. Everyone I met said he wasn't radicalized at all. Some people said he may have had no idea what he was doing there, but I think more likely— And this was which raid? This was a raid in a town called Verviers where they killed everyone except him. And this guy jumped out the window and the prosecutor conceded that he didn't seem prepared to die like the other two. And they killed everyone in a fierce firefight, right? Really I mean and you may have heard about the firefight in Saint-Denis after the attacks in Paris it was exactly the same thing I mean it was many minutes long but this is after Charlie Hebdo so much earlier and what I realize is that people like this guy seem to exist they come up all the time in these attacks there are people who

29:03 play kind of smaller support roles who have connections to the people who we think of as the terrorists through childhood, to growing up in the neighborhoods together through petty criminality. But they aren't terrorists in the way we think of it and if we realize that actually those are the people we need to focus on helps us understand that the foundation for terrorism structure that exists in cities like Brussels and Paris have people who are going abroad and coming back its maybe much more mundane than this sort of high rhetoric here about people trying to defeat democracy and they hate our freedoms and things like that who exist within a sort of lower spectrum of local grievances and criminality, and things that actually are maybe easier to deal with but also more complicated to try to understand. So when I heard this clip really for the first time it was face palm time like holy crap! This guy is onto something really really big

30:01 Okay, explain. Well what he's saying is around all of these terrorist attacks there always seems to be some lower level guys who are just kind of quiet they're not really terrorists but this kind of in and out they're low-level guys these are the instigators it appears to me and the bigger question of course is who are they? It could just as easily be us I would agree with that. And we have some... It could just as easily be FBI guys. Well, I have clips to back you up on this which is going to be as we progress on this particular episode that may kind of indicate yeah okay

30:58 But first I want to just do an aside. Oh, you pumped me all up boy! Oh it's coming but the aside can't be ignored which is this one This gay thing has kind of bugged me Yeah annoying The gay guy Famous gay guy and he blows himself up with Was thinking what if Isis was actually no he didn't blow himself up. He was the guy who got caught He's a little level guy yes, but he's but these low-level guys Here's I'm here's the question what if this whole ISIS then they throwing the gays off the buildings is all bullshit Yeah And maybe there's like like a gay element to the whole thing oh

31:49 It's gay-sis. Gay-sis? Well, hold on explain this I like this explain explain this for a second there's a gay element it's all gay guys who are doing this how awesome would that be? Believe me i'm not saying that How awesome would that be Hmm, it would be awesome. Well Alexander the great is almost his entire army Were gay guys hopped up on morphine really yeah? The whole Army is almost all what a party's the way to go the gays can they can fuck the gays no? You said the gaze the gaze And low-level guy is pun intended

32:32 We're terrible. Yes, but it's not a crazy theory what if? No it's not a crazy theory especially if you think of Alexander the Great! But I'm just...I just dawned on because this has been eating at me this guy as it were This gay guy that well how does he keep out from all we've heard here is from all we've heard There's no way any ISIS guy can be gay. They throw him off of a roof! That's where they belong, bouncing. Bouncing off the ground? Now is that possibly... we don't know any of this to be true. We have no idea what the hell is going on in this whole thing could be. Let's look at what we got for a moment here. First of all all of the confirmation of this being ISIS came through site intelligence group Rita Katz she was the only person to confirm it

33:28 As far as I can tell, the only person to confirm it. We're very skeptical about her she could definitely have an agenda looking at her background All of the videos that were cited by Kerry, by Obama anytime it's come up in Congress are the highly produced multi-camera fakes. And I say fake because we never actually saw someone's head being cut off We never actually saw someone being burned alive...we just saw all these highly stylized videos So this video is very questionable. For years we've been talking about those videos You know, sometimes you see real videos and it's obvious it's real. It's not stylized and someone's head gets chopped off and rolls on the ground. It's for real But the stuff that they've been citing is not real So then we have if you truly had... well then we have the State Department saying fuck to EU We don't care and yes that related to Ukraine but that is the feeling Fuck these guys who gives a shit about them? We'll do whatever we need to do for ourselves

34:28 Now, if we're playing with somebody. I don't know if we're in bed with... If we're still in bed with Turkey? With Erdogan is very possible maybe we've somehow come up with a new deal with the Russians but whatever it is let's just say we want to destabilize Europe. Well all the pieces fit. All the pieces fit and what a great cover! Have these, the loner guys who show up and start to really truly radicalize and get people all pumped up. You know... Works here? Yeah! Yes it works here What do you mean by that We have FBI guys finding some dumb fucks And they go over them and say hey we're with you Jihad, death to America Then next thing you know they got a guy pushing a button on a phone That's supposed to blow up at Chicago Tower It works here

35:22 And it could just be a gay cabal. That would be hilarious! The gay part is interesting, and needs thought. But since you mentioned Turkey... You know what's going on in Turkey with the journalists right? Yeah they were arrested and they're standing trial now. What do you know about them? They are financed by Fethullah Gulen. Well, the newspaper is a gulenist paper? A gulenist paper yes So what was the reason for them getting arrested Because they were telling the truth about Turkey sending troops down to kill the Kurds Oh well... I would have said the same thing until i heard this report

36:08 There's actually a real story behind this. Is this about the new ghetto they want to make in southwestern Turkey, northeastern Syria? No, these journalists did a real report that was... Oh stop! I can't believe that. So let's play this as journalism and... Who are these journalists?! This report explains it all, but it also tells what the story they wrote that got him thrown in jail is all about which has never been reported as far as I know in the United States. Thank you. Two Turkish journalists have gone on trial behind closed doors on charges of espionage one of them is the editor-in-chief of Cumhuriyet, one of the country's biggest opposition newspapers

36:50 He and his colleague faced life in prison for a story they published last year about Turkey's role in the Syria conflict. They'd already spent 92 days in jail before the Constitutional Court ruled that their pretrial detention could not be justified. So what have these journalists done to sow anger? President Erdogan, DW correspondent Dorian Jones in Istanbul can tell us more. Dorian, what came out of today's proceedings? Well, it was a very controversial proceeding. In spite of the Constitutional Court ruling that this case violates individual freedoms and media freedoms, the court is carrying on with this case added to their controversy. The court has now decided all future proceedings will be held in secret and there will be a ban on media reporting of this following that ruling. There was absolute mayhem in the court. A number

37:39 opposition members of Parliament who were attending the case refused to leave. There was boos and whistles, and this forced a court to adjourn the case until April. This just underlines how controversial this case has become, and in many ways is putting the president on trial and his government's handling of media as much as these two defendants. So tell us about the reports that have got these journalists into so much trouble? What did they claim to have discovered? Well, basically they claim to have revealed a police raid on the number of lorries that were reportedly meant to be carrying aids to Syria. But in fact when they stopped these trucks which were being reportedly escorted by Turkish intelligence officers inside, the trucks were found to be full of munitions including heavy mortar shells large amounts of arms and machine guns and according to the police who are investigating that case they were being delivered

38:33 Islamic Jihadists fighting in Syria. This turned out to be extremely embarrassing for the government and, in particular, for the president who has now made it a personal campaign to imprison these journalists." Huh! Well here's here's the two sides of it on one hand we have the United States Obviously protecting the guy who financed this newspaper, Fertula Gulen. He lives in a compound in Pennsylvania, the Poconos and he runs multi-billion dollar network of charter schools many of them in the US over 100 in Texas alone now so that's his outfit trying to pull down Erdogan. He is probably just doing what he does

39:19 He's just moving along as you know, his asset but all of his efforts are being thwarted. The only conclusion I can come to is that we the United States want this to happen. Yeah i have to assume that We want this to happen. We are ISIS, there you go! Well that's what we've said since the beginning And there was a couple of... no audio of course because it is in Dutch but they were interviewing kids at schools Muslim kids in schools in the Netherlands and teenagers junior high and all without fail so everybody knows America is behind ISIS Yeah we all know that Muslims are conspiracy theorists

40:01 Well, I think a lot of people are becoming that way. When they start hearing reports like this! Yeah... I didn't know about the Turkish intelligence escorting truckloads of supposed aid? There's just nothing but machine guns?! To be fair we did talk about it on the show We reported that not with a clip but we reported it But you're right, the reason there was no clip is because no one else is covering what actually was reported by these. And by the way where's The Freedom of the Press? Where are those A-holes in New York? Where's Gregg Greenrath Dahlrath? Where's Snowden? Where's everybody talking about this being an outrage? It's a total outrage I don't hear anyone talking about it being an outrage Well here's the next outrage coming up, coming your way

40:44 So I'm watching Democracy Now! This is the Friday show. On Fridays, Democracy Now really takes the day off. And they just have a lot of interviews. So, they have Scahill and some guy from the Intercept doing this story... Actually I might want to put this into after the first segment because it's kind of lengthy. But apparently the US is going after Eric Prince! Their own buddy? I think you're right No, screw it we can cram this into the A-block because I read about this story and really want to hear what you got for us

41:21 Well, Eric Prince decided to go after him and I'm listening to their scale in this other guy who is the security guy for the intercept. Now hold on going on. Eric Prince was the owner of Blackwater then became Z then became Academy he got fired The last thing I remember He was pitching business with the Chinese but that's probably a year ago You know he still pitch he's pitching everywhere But i'm listening to this to this report. And as I listen to it, I'm thinking to myself what actually has he done wrong that would have any sort of... Well it was his guys who shot up all those people in Iraq and it was... Oh no thats all water under the bridge! This is all new stuff. New? Yeah this is all new It must be him working for the Chiners No one likes that

42:14 Well, I don't know if that's it either but we have some hints of what it is. Okay? And when you play all these clips there's only one conclusion you can draw at the end of it which relates to what we've just been talking about Is that a stage management instruction to me? I don't really have any. At the end of it, yeah... Shut up, Curry! Don't interrupt. Let's start with this one. This is Eric Prince first rap and as far as i can tell this is what- this is how the- I don't know if there's no wonder we're- Start this off and then I'll have to stop it eventually. And eventually we were able to review No, no stop it, stop it

42:55 Okay, let's see. I gotta get the real first clip which is Amy going on... Well in the meantime play E starts with the letter e need all hands on deck play that We need all hands on deck Okay good enough Now I was like, I'm just gonna get my whistle while that clip of playing Thanks for the warning. We need all hands on deck Okay That will be in the end to show through a nice ISO that is Melissa Myers Oh Marissa Marissa I feel so bad for her why?

43:32 Why? Because she's failing. She doesn't think so. Eric, she's not failing and her banker doesn't think so. Eric Prince overview try that All righty. Prince overview in a major new expose, the intercept has revealed that the Justice Department is investigating Blackwater founder Eric Prince for possible money laundering ties to Chinese intelligence and attempts to broker military services to foreign governments. Prince is currently the chairman of Frontier Services Group, an aviation logistics firm that specializes in shipping in Africa The documents obtained by the Intercept show that Prince has also set up shell companies to offer paramilitary services to at least a half-dozen African nations, including Libya. Both the U.S. and United Nations have imposed a series of restrictions on military dealings in Libya. Prince is also suspected of attempting to open Chinese bank accounts

44:28 to move money for his Libyan associates. A former intelligence official told The Intercept, quote, "'Money laundering' for Libyan officials using a Chinese bank—that is the issue that pushed it over the edge." As part of its investigation, The Intercept obtained an internal slide presentation showing Erik Prince's private force would operate in Libya for the stated purpose of stopping the flow of refugees to Europe Libya is one of the main routes for migrants trying to enter Europe from Eastern Africa and parts of the Central Sahel region. Prince has also long been interested in raising a private military force to battle Islamic militant groups in a variety of countries. The Intercept also reports an internal proposals drafted by Prince and his team for project code name Project November

45:16 and to confronting the theft of Nigerian oil, providing VIP protection for Nigerian officials and engaging in counterinsurgency activities. You know I know guys like this. I know guys like this. And they really don't care what side they play on Well, that's true. But let's go over the basics here. He was stemming the flow of immigrants from Libya to Europe? Stemming or stimulating! That's the question. No, stemming... Okay. Let's just look at the surface and just take it for what it is. He wants to stem the flow of immigrants from Libya. Yeah. What client wants that?

45:58 That's my question. This is all revealed in these clips by the way, as you continue... Oh shut up! He wants to stem the flow of immigrants he wants to fight ISIS and he wants to keep this Nigerian oil scam it was he wants end that now the question is just at the surface maybe this is all bullcrap but what's wrong with any of those three things? Okay first he uh you know I'm just gonna give up What's wrong with stemming? Because somebody doesn't want him stemming the flow of immigrants. Clearly he does not, they do not want him to do that right so they're going to make trouble for them

46:41 They don't want him fighting ISIS. No, no that would be no good. Because he's killing the... He's killing us! He's killing the good guys yeah that's not good and they they don't want him apparently to do anything about this scam going on in Nigeria which we know where were intimately involved in you know that's up to 60 billion dollars now that was stolen when we reported on it was 16 Yeah. And that was a year ago? Apparently never got the memo or he's just been taken out of the loop, or he knows this is all going on because I did which is what I believe and it's just causing trouble

47:22 But let's go to the first rap. This is the guy from The Intercept going on and on, and there's just a kicker in here when you just get crack up hearing this. This is Eric Prince first rap did nothing. And eventually we were able to review a series of documents that showed what prints and a small group of cohorts were trying to do. And what we found was pretty alarming in terms of a US citizen, private US citizen and no longer really associated with the U.S government going around to countries and trying to exploit either their problems or their fears to present what they call turnkey solutions which is a full spectrum of military operations

48:06 services, intelligence. So that the countries that would potentially buy these proposals basically have to do nothing other than write a check and he would be able to bring in everything from spy airplanes to paramilitary operatives on the ground and his own personal spying force and hunter killers if you will You know, so far what we found is that no one has purchased his services. But it didn't stop him from trying and continuing to try to provide those things to as many countries anywhere he could and could see a business opportunity." So they went right in during the sales cycle? They didn't even let him get to the pitch! He just didn't sell anybody there were nobody's buying this product. Mm-hmm. So what did you do wrong?!

48:56 The bad sales pitch yeah Very fishy to me. I like this then this fits right into what we're talking about today Yes, geez let's go. Let's add a little more complexity to it Okay, this is this I did not know this is the Eric Prince Libya story Huff car Because Libya is essentially a failed state. There's competing groups claiming to be the actual government, and not to mention all the other insurgent groups. Who was he working with in Libya? Well it's it's a little murky in terms of who he was working with. What we know about Eric Prince's interest in Libya is that it began early on almost I believe it began by 2011 when fall of Gaddafi but

49:41 In 2013, he was in Libya—had come together with a proposal with the few partners to offer a complete blackwater service for counterinsurgency. He wanted to bring stability into the east and wipe out the Islamists who were gaining strength subsequent to Qaddafi's fall. And, initially he had a difficult time finding the right partners. It was clear when he was meeting with people that he didn't trust some of the factions that he was dealing with and I think it was—he wasn't familiar with Libya. He's certainly not an Arabist or an expert. and had a difficult time trying to figure out who was who. And ultimately what he did was, he went after meetings or trying to broker a deal with a man by the name of General Haftar, who is now the head of armed forces essentially in Libya but who lived in the U.S., dual US citizen, lived in the U.S for a long time and worked with the agency, the CIA for many years

50:41 So we have the head of the Libyan military forces, a CIA guy? Yeah. Really? Well that would explain it because when you're weaseling on the CIA's turf, if you usually don't be... You're lucky to get out alive with a Democracy Now piece Hey Prince, we're gonna make a deal. We'll give you democracy now peace and then you get out stop it. Now I have an optional clip Can i just throw something in here? So yeah sure this if this is truly the the way It's going And they're and CIA that's the only people who I think would be able to do this

51:19 with some cooperation from State Department, there's got to be co- and there is always cooperation with CIA and State Department. They sit in the same buildings. The idea is to overrun Europe which is kind of the same thing that that Erdogan wants except the US who needs to have Hillary Clinton be president. You can't execute this plan without Hillary Clinton, although I have an option because she's the only one who truly wants to go and kill people And um... The idea is we go in Every single time there's one of these attacks, we're on the scene. We start building up some presence and bases and then we're going to defend the EU from Turkey while we really manage the EU through our banking strength and of course at this point our military power are gonna keep everybody safe. We will once again become the policeman in the world with special presence in the EU On the other hand interestingly

52:19 Donald Trump would fit in very perfectly with this because he has said consistently, it's okay. We'll play policeman of the world but they're going to pay us for it which may be an even better message for the military industrial complex either way we're going to wind up protecting Europe I think. We end up running and running Europe yeah we're gonna start working... what else can they do? Well, the sounds of all these people I've been listening to they can't do much and there seem to be beside themselves. And this fear... Canceling the fear barge!

52:55 It's just too much. Now I have a clip that is kind of optional, it's not as important as the last clip but you can play it if you find all this interesting. I'm very interesting are you kidding me? Yeah Eric prints WTF2 Over time he changed his proposal and the reason why was because in his office... This is a new version to PowerPoint Offering of a group of European white mercenaries, non-Muslim mercenaries. He didn't get a whole lot of takers and what he was advised is that if you want to sell this program what you need to do is give them something that was politically palatable so what you need to do is you need to offer the solution to problem that they currently have but they can seem to control which was migration uh... the problem of migrants coming up through

53:41 well-established, you know lanes if you will routes to try to get into Europe and if you provide them with a border solution that is something that not only will they accept but you can probably get buy in of the European Union because the European Union Of course is the one who receives the migrants on the other end And so come 2015 last year where you had this crisis or refugee crisis as far as Europe was concerned certainly certainly is very evident from the conflicts in the Middle East. They have all of these migrants washing up at their shores, and many of them get there from—leave Libya regardless of whether they were from Libya. And so now he started to get a little bit more traction because the—he wasn't offering a mercenary force. He was offering border control

54:28 system. And what was, in fact this is part of where our story began in terms of where we picked it up because what we were being told was that yeah he's offering a border service, a border patrol but really his intent is to build a mercenary force and this is just the fig leaf that allows him to do it if you can sell this there was a second Hold on a second. Is that pitch still open to the EU? Could he possibly be the one to put together the EU security forces, could that be contracted out to him? Well, that's kind of where he was headed but that is when the government decided to put the kibosh on this guy and play clip 3. And you can hear all of the elements coming together and why this guy is so screwed although he has done nothing! Complication which is a Libyan government because it essentially divided government in a stalemate something like a civil war and uh... it is a failed state

55:24 They're financially frozen. They have a lot of money sitting in their central bank from all of their oil wealth, $150 to 180 billion dollars but no one will allow them to spend it because no one's sure which government is in power and whether the money being spent is legitimate so Eric had this problem he had Libyans who were interested but they couldn't pay for anything partnering with the EU potentially was a way to get half of it funded from Europe and also to get the Europeans to help free up some of that money. And so now Eric Prince was offering something not just a mercenary force, he was acting as a banker! He was a real knight in shining armor for Libyan government officials who are sitting there with no money and uh...so what we

56:12 Saw and what we could we could see from and what our sources were saying was that? What this was was an opportunity unlike the other proposals that he was offering Was the ability to be a banker oh Man, it fits perfectly And you know what else folds into this of this theory John T. Tip oh yeah Just when your all came that has been off the radar But but the president has signed it just needs to be ratified by Congress Think about that since we don't really know what's in the t-tip and I've been all for it, all for TTIP. Yeah, I'd rather have the New World Order come in and you know We fight him mano a mano going through this...I want to be alive when they take over! I do not want to wait. I want to see it happen please so It is inevitable we all know this

57:05 So, you have the bank...so there it is. The banking power and we know our former New York banker here in Austin says we won, we beat the Europeans in particular of the Germans. We won, we won. And we're not experts in finance, you're much more expert than I am but we know that Europe is kind of a house of cards and any small or medium events could start tipping it over. And if we're then in there protecting them at every event, and then we have T-Tip come into play... Then we'll own everything! We would hopefully yeah now this guy obviously Eric yes hopefully yeah hopefully what are you gonna do let's be honest about it now this good guy uh hey are you on the comcast today John? Yeah why? Yeah could you switch

57:55 I'll make it well then stop tape yeah Make sure I'm on the right network Please don't leave the floor everybody. We will be back momentarily this is not a bathroom break This is not a coffee break just to click by for talent Well, let's just start you can hear any sound okay? Okay never mind. It's I'm saying that for you Not for me We got makeup coming for you. I need it that's I'm leaving all this in actually, I'm not taking this out. This is comedy gold people. I don't know about gold Okay well where were we you were going to but I don't know

58:59 So we have the situation you just described and we have this guy Eric Prince who hasn't really done anything wrong. He's, you know tried to sell things he's trying do this and that but he hasn't done anything but he's in there mucking things up. He's on these pie-in-the sky proposals for the EU. We can stop them I think we can stop immigrants from coming from India I don't think so. This is not this is clearly not in our best interest, so this guy's got to go he's under federal investigation He's dealing with the Chinese. He's got something do a Chinese intelligence. He's talking to too many people He's in the middle of he's making a mess who would have ever thought Eric Prince could possibly be one of the good guys Well, and every brain twister yeah dang all right

59:52 So let's go after him and now he's got to run around. Alright, well we have a few more things to process and will go in a few different directions but I like this a lot because now finally things are starting to come together for us understand a little bit what possibly is going on but man the lot of it does indicate that we actually want the United States of Europe overrun and in trouble hmm And with that... We've always said that. We have, and here we are back again! With that I need to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C with a c stands for curious gay dudes handling ISIS Dvorak! Hello? Yeah what? I just said in the morning to you. Then you just disappeared Oh well it's time to thank some people

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1:09:42 Yeah, they didn't do nothing. And then they let him go. Yeah. But interestingly... Back to Washington. The third guy I'm reading in the Dutch telegraphe, the third guy who got away? The one with a hat? Oh yeah, the guy with the hat. Turns out to be a freelance Belgian journalist and activist. What?! Now hold on a second before you go on. Here's what's interesting about that guy in the hat. On Friday news it was a Friday... No when was the bombing? The bombing was, did we wake up to it Monday?

1:10:19 I don't remember if it was Monday or Tuesday, whatever the case. They made a big stink about this third guy on all the news things and then i heard on one of the European broadcasts that they caught the guy somewhere in the northern part of the country and then I didn't hear any more that they caught the guy...they said that report is was no we didn't catch the guy well I don't know what happened but they didn't catch the guy now you're telling me that he's a journalist? Translating on-the-fly The guys name would be Faisal Shafu He was apprehended Thursday in Brussels and apparently a cab driver recognized the guy because he had dropped the three of them off at the airport, which was of course El Bakroui, Najim Lakroui and this according to Belgian media 30 year old Sheffoux.

1:11:08 Sheffou, I'm translating on the fly. Sheffou is not an unknown person to the authorities in Brussels as a reporter and an announcer of extreme messaging to migrants he has repeatedly been in contact with the authorities even the mayor of Brussels Ivan Maier had complained earlier about Sheffou so this guy was known he was a troublemaker but And where's the reporting on this? Because there is a picture of him that he was pretty much posing as a journalist. And these days, you know we're journalists I guess you could argue... There is a picture of him with holding a mic reporting but the big mistake because he doesn't have a mic flag see this is what these guys need to learn they need to talk to The Curry Dvorak Consulting Group if you want to be taken seriously You have to have a mic cube

1:12:01 I still have it. Explain what that is? Oh, so it's the little sleeve cube that you put over your microphone right underneath the head and it has your stations call letters on it. I still have one with MTV on it maybe we should send that to him could use that. The migraine... Use this dummy! Hey don't use this one douche yeah So how about that Yeah And they're cheap They're only a couple bucks and of course really the disgusting part of all this but there was just another attack this morning What was it? We had 21 people killed in a bombing. We had people, you know... Whenever the people are brown and ISIS attacks there's not a lot of news about it if they're brown and live in the sand who gives a shit

1:12:47 I don't care about these people. Here, this is yesterday 26 in Iraq." The bloody aftermath of a suicide bombing outside Baghdad Islamic State is claiming responsibility for the blast that killed at least 26 people and wounded at least 71 others at the end of an amateur soccer game The head of security in Babel province where the attack happened says the suicide bomber detonated an explosive belt in the park where the game was being held Islamic State militants who control swaths of territory in Iraq's north and west also claimed responsibility for an attack earlier this month that killed at least 60 people at a security checkpoint. Yeah, yeah but of course where is our news media on that? It's racist! You don't give a shit about the brown people you don't

1:13:33 But you just don't care. It's, oh it's white people in Brussels where they kind of speak English we think we're not sure who cares? Let's take another look at this from a different angle okay what if this is a test okay and these are tests that they're doing and they that's one of the reasons I get reported not because the media isn't complicit but you know... They're not... It's a test so there's not a script distributed to everybody yet So it's a test and this is off-the-wall which just came to me I'm good with it Which is the way the show works This is a test to see if they should be attacking soccer games. To see if soccer games, yeah? Huh... Because soccer's got it you know, it's getting a mixed review It's got a lot of corruption involved Yeah... We get some sympathy for the sport If we start blowing people up who actually go watch the game Mmmmmmmm It's a very European thing and well Well I'm gonna add to that

1:14:26 seeing as we now already have said football hooligans are responsible for the Nazi salutes there in Brussels. Football hooligans... Was that in the report or was that you? No, she said football hooligan showed up. Okay. Uh-huh That would fit. That fits the model. So we got a precursor, so we got a little mentioning there and now we're gonna have.. We had a soccer I mean they also did it test run if you recall this is all Paris Yes, you're right. They did it the stadium but that was a it was a didn't it blew up at the house, right? Right, oh Good blast to see what would happen excellent and that was a test

1:15:07 Because it didn't accomplish anything. It had to be a test and it's a twofer because then you can anyone with a bald head you can arrest on the street You have you have a goodbye man? Let's go back to the testers that here I'm gonna use little element of the test This is just taking right from crime story shown on television That's right is how we roll you do the tests, you're gonna blow up a stadium or something you do the test To see what was gonna happen too big blast and then you go into town and blow up a bunch things in that The test is ignored Hmm because the real action took place elsewhere so that you don't pay attention there was a test going on Oh, yes And now you just blow up a bunch of so I would be very leery. I've going to soccer matches in Europe for starters and then maybe you know cuz it's about and just Just to pile on you know they killed Johan Cruyff the number one football player of The Netherlands ever well Maybe that's a little too far-fetched

1:16:05 Well, yeah. It is for fish but it's an element. Could be a test. Although Ajax... Oh my god! Is there chat room? Is there some big game planned? Ajax which of course was Krois Klub in the Netherlands will have lots of luminaries lots of famous people lots of big soccer players from all over the world is there something coming up some kind of memorial game or something that's what I would be looking for Well, I'd avoid these and avoid large crowds. Yeah yeah for sure um well just to wrap up a little bit of what we were talking about earlier i have just one more clip uh McCall Mike McCall he is the uh he's the chairs the homeland security committee he's the douche from Texas who I met in here so he's not clued in

1:17:02 He's just not clued in. This is running outside of the Homeland Security, possibly outside of Homeland Security altogether as he's still running the same old memes on this thing. Lieutenant General Vincent Stewart, he is the director of the DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency He told Congress that ISIS quote would probably conduct additional attacks in Europe and attempt to direct attacks on the US homeland this year 2016 You're the chairman of Homeland Security Committee What are you bracing for? Well I think Europe has been wide open Leading the witness what are you bracing for

1:17:40 has been wide open. This really comes as no surprise, unfortunately and I think he's right you know i think Europe given the security gaps we have legislation out of my committee to address some of this ISIS in a video last week called for terrorist Paris style attacks in the United States and from my perspective that's one of our greatest I've talked to the FBI, to Homeland Security officials. We are ramping up security in the United States but also looking at visa applicants, looking at visa waiver applicants and looking at travel manifests on the airplanes to try to come into the United States. We know there are ISIS investigations, ISIS-related investigations... Interesting how he's kind of talking about a Trump like policy there It's like we gotta really watch everybody that is coming in. ...in all 50 states right now but is there any specific terror plot that you know of? That the US is working on Well when I talked to the FBI and Homeland they said There was no specific incredible threat in the United States But you have to factor in The idea that they can communicate now In what's called dark space Uhhhhhhh

1:18:42 Guy's not clued in. In encrypted space as the pair style... I don't understand, if the FBI has a week ago comes out and says oh don't worry Apple we're... hey court call it off we're good to go we got some Israelis or whatever why is the guy on managing the Homeland Security Oversight Committee why is he still saying we can't look at it? Liar attacks occurred they didn't end in encrypted apps where we couldn't see what they were saying That's why we couldn't stop it from happening. That is when I talked to federal law enforcement that's our greatest concern here in the homeland because if they could be here and there are Terrorists in Raqqa communicating with individuals in the United States We just don't can't see what their say Oh, oh, we know the communicating but we can't see what they're saying really you know Come on

1:19:38 This the homeland, you know what it is that bugs me about it? It's a Nazi thing. No thats the fatherland. Okay Which is a Nazi thing but the homeland has elements of that but the homeland which is supposed to be an elemental place where things evolve from. A nation of immigrants and indigenous people, that's their homeland yes ours not so much I'll tell you what bothers me...I'm always wondering why I am galled every time somebody says the homeland. I know if i haven't done the research on but I know this has never been used pre 9-11 to any extreme at all

1:20:17 No, President Roosevelt wasn't talking about the homeland during the Great Depression. It bothers me because it's a science fiction term! It's something you'd find in a science fiction novel. The group going back to the homeland...it just is like a fiction element of some sort of fictional story and I don't even know what we're dealing with a lot of fiction here that is what we do on this show but it just bugs me Well, I'm going to counter you and say that Hitler definitely used homeland. Heimat he there were different versions of the fatherland but one thing it never was was the motherland what happened to that? Remember when they used to be Russia owned at already They had the copyright trademark yeah hey hey hey hey hey hey you can't use that for a violation we want residuals on our homeland

1:21:15 Well, I think it's much more... It's very nationalistic. I think we can agree on that and the fact that we have a Department of Homeland Security maybe because people don't want to say America anymore I it's getting worse. Maybe it's an effort to get out of the United States of America idea because if we're gonna take over the world Yeah, yeah You can just make the homeland you could expand it easily just call it that part of the homeland ah When will EU be part of the homeland? We can wait on it. No, but depends the rest of these guys that dark web the dark web may prove a part Web will know Is the fear that they will go after what they call soft targets like they did for example today in Brussels as subway station? Outside the security perimeter and I also don't like this softened hard target talk

1:22:06 It's just cold that you mention it. This is interesting because this is I noticed it too But I didn't notice as much as you just did to say something about it, but this is over the last week So this is when these two terms have really been hitting it out of the park soft targets target Target means humans the underbelly of the soft targets its humans soft target is human Yeah, we're soft and we're soft we rip apart easily For example, today in Brussels a subway station outside the security perimeter at an airport and you just walk in before you go through security. The baggage department would check your bags? And they are soft targets I mean it's hard to

1:22:48 manage, but we are putting these Viper teams they call them. What are Viper teams? Viper Teams are basically TSA and local law enforcement... Viper Teams! TSA! Yeah they're so good at stopping nothing. ...local law enforcement working together to provide... 95% of all contraband slips by them These are basically TSA and local law enforcement... They stop all A-holes... ...working together to provide a greater presence at airports and at metro stations... The press scaring children old people... ...at metro stations and train stations to provide a deterrent with sniffer dogs stuff like that. Canines, not dogs! Not dogs! Not canines. It's not dogs, canines. Train stations to provide a deterrent with sniffer dog stuff with canines and the canines can detect these explosive devices that we saw unfortunately go off successfully. Is that a visible presence or is it largely blended in? Have you never seen The Viper team's brawl

1:23:41 Now it's a very visible presence and it was done intentionally for deterrence. What else needs to be done, for example at US airports that is not being done? Well I think again we are looking...I think its the foreign travel coming into the United States so last points of departure that is what my legislation... Yeah but listen what he saying..He has got some legislation on the table which sounds like the Trump idea. There is a lot going on That is what my legislation's looking at. That's what Homeland Security is looking at to tighten up those travel documents, look at the manifest and make sure they can't come into United States. The foreign fighter threat is real and that's what we saw happen

1:24:20 today in Belgium and that's what we don't want to see happen the United States. So the fear is sleeper cells may already be here in the United States? The fear is a Paris style attack or Brussels attack occurring here in the United States through the use of encrypted communications When you say encrypted communications, I know! The best intelligence they can break that... The best intelligence Even with the lawful warrant We can't see it even our intelligent services in some cases can't see it. This obviously went under the radar screen. I'm looking so far as in this sort of diagnosis or autopsy of this case that we find out that encryption was used." Alright, yeah... We'll find out that encryption was used? This guy is not read-in! Fire that guy! He's banned from the show now unless he has a real doozy

1:25:07 No, screw this guy. He's not ready and doesn't know what he is talking about." So this just proves more of our theory... If we're going around that has to be kept going around besides the hard target soft target is that now were going to have series of these things in Europe every couple weeks And I've heard this over and over and over again. This is just going to be the way it's going to be! So in other words, when i say we... That's not John and Adam. It's not me it's this is CIA, it's Brennan these guys are a-holes they're crazy! Well they're doing the heck of a job of blowing stuff up. This is not your uncle's agency you know? So here is the thing we had to focus on... News Hour by the way one of the best at doing this or better than everybody else

1:26:01 all over the map, like the Democracy Now thing and the Eric Prince thing. Nobody asked us any questions of these reporters that would make sense? Like why are they going after this guy hasn't really done anything? And hold on... Why do you think they even had him on Democracy Now at all? I think Democracy now is a stooge for the intelligence agencies but i think an unwitting. Oh of course! They are all smoking their own dope over there especially Judy Woodruff and Bill what's-her-face hagiographer girl No, I'm talking about Democracy Now. Oh! Amy... Yeah no she's just a moron yeah she doesn't know. They just feed them hey we're gonna give you some exclusive stuff on global warming if you run these people on the show If we had an opportunity to meet the Democracy Now staff i think you and I would both be able to spot the spook in two seconds. Spot the spook is a great game. In 30 seconds. Spot the spook And now

1:27:03 Oh yeah, I would- Now ladies and gentlemen it's time to... Why didn't it work? Alright so here is a clip this was from uh... Thought you were gonna do the intro. SPOT THE SPOOK! And now ladies and gentlemen Here's our host of Spot The Spook Adam Curry Welcome to another episode of Spot The Spook John what have ya got for us today I have the Democracy Now! staff. Let's start with some photos. Let's start with some photos, photo says... Alright

1:27:49 So let's stop the game and go to this clip. Which clip is it? This is ISIS in Europe, this was a guy who wasn't defense DIA he was an army intelligence and now he's professor at some school in Florida And he's here on the PBS News Hour they're more amenable I mean they play the game but I think there are more than one spook working their They brought this guy in to give us the litany. We have to know this, and I think it's important so we can understand what is going to happen and why it's going to happen and straighten out some of the misinformation that other networks put out there." Boom! Harvey one more question Secretary of State John Kerry was saying today

1:28:33 in Europe. He essentially suggested that because ISIS is losing ground in Iraq and Syria, that they're lashing out in Europe he said they're resorting to actions outside the Middle East because their fantasy of a caliphate is collapsing I think that's just plain wrong The Islamic State has, for two years, been talking in their speeches and in their communications about conducting operations in Europe and elsewhere. This was not a lashing out. This is part of their normal operational profile, and we're going to see more of it, particularly as we see these foreign fighters move back to areas around the world—not just Europe but North Africa and Asia." Well how come not the United States?

1:29:18 Well, I don't think we're in the picture yet. We have a jingle for it! ISIS Come on boys come on over here! We will follow them...ISIS I think we just talk a big game about the Isis in America so that we can make it not look like this whole thing is schemed out Right right right So we throw in Whatever happened in San Bernardino, that was not planned. Something's wrong there. Okay let's transition a bit into the political sphere. There is a guy I've been keeping my eye on he is from Minnesota nuts Keith Maurice Ellison

1:30:09 Oh, that guy. Yeah he's a congressman... He is the Muslim? He is the Muslim exactly so you want to keep an eye on what the muslim representatives are saying now we know that in the past we've had some issues in Minnesota there's a big Somalian population I think it is. In Minnesota yeah I think it's the Somalis. I think it is. So they got a lot of Muslim immigrants and there's definitely seen some issues But of course, you know the wrong thing to do and this is Part of the shift that we've seen from the Muslim hate is slowly transitioning, in some cases not so slowly. From Donald Trump to Ted Cruz We remarked on this in the previous episode So now it's mainly sometimes Cruz you know Trump gets mentioned in the same breath as Cruz But particularly Cruz being out there saying we need to be patrolling Muslim neighborhoods has brought up a lot of anger

1:31:10 And comments here from the congressman for the I'll just say the Muslim congressman or The congressmen who happens to be Muslim Do you have faith that? God forbid if there were to be another attack in the u.s Of a scale like something here in the American and by the way, why is Chris Hayes in Brussels? He does a talk... Hayes is in Brussels. Erin, what's her name is in Brussels? They all went to Brussels when they had the opportunity if they had the budget for the food and the fries and the beer Oh, the beer's good. The fries are good. You get to just mayonnaise on the fries? Yeah and he's standing there on the street corner! He could have easily just been in the studio Anywhere... yeah And what a waste of money I'm sure everyone had like on their way back Well we're flying back since the airport is closed We're driving to Paris I'm gonna see Pierre for my hair I would be stunned if they didn't all go to Paris for the weekend They'll hop on the train Probably this weekend

1:32:07 Yeah, this is the weekend. I can't get back home for Easter. I'm forced to stay in Paris. Sucks! Exactly! Sucks for me! Do you have faith that God forbid if there were to be another attack in the US of a scale like something here... Now why do you say god forbid to the Muslim guy? Are you just trying him to say something or what are you doing there Chris Hayes? What are you doing?! in the US of a scale like something here, in the American political system to not completely lose sight of these sort of core values. Yes I do believe that we will deal with the problem in a forthright sensible way Okay...I DO BELIEVE we're going to solve the problem in a forthright sensible way! I think that the greater majority of Americans know and understand that panic and scapegoating is not gonna make us safer

1:32:58 What we've got to do is have greater amounts... Do it for fun, not for that. Did you say we do it for fun? Yeah! That's the American way. You do it for fun, not because it's going to make you safer." It is not going to make us safer! What we've got to do is have greater amount of integration, build relationships... We've got to make sure that we're monitoring people who actually are showing signs of radicalization. I love this so What we're afraid to say in our country is, hey man a lot of these terrorists seem to be Muslim faith. So clearly this Muslim faith thing has been hijacked and they're making these kids crazy and then these guys come in and then these kids wind up killing themselves it's really easy

1:33:48 But now, but we can't actually say that and we can go surveil people. We have to keep our eye on and monitor people who are showing signs of self-radicalization." How do you do that without like watching them? These are all just fluff words. Showing signs of radicalization not just their religion but actually doing things that raise legitimate concern... Like what? And it's important to have... I don't know like what! His point is We gotta do all this, but we can't just say it like Ted Cruz is saying. And it's important to have great relationship within the Muslim community so I you know there are reports out there that have shown that as many as a third of the attacks or potential attacks have been reported and thwarted by Muslims and of course as we both know Chris the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all

1:34:42 thereby people like Timothy McVeigh, uh and- I know. This is gonna bring that old bromide up? How old is that bombing?! Was it 83? How's that everybody is like Timothy McVeigh? I mean, Timothy McVays have come along. Well so this is really... This is really disgusting what he's doing here because he is pretty much saying hey it's not the brown guys who pray to Allah It's the white guys who prayed God! It was just obvious you need that guy 91 95 93 93 93 83 89 56 anyway a while ago

1:35:21 That's really not okay. I mean, the overwhelming... when people are labeled terrorists, okay yeah i guess we have to label people who go and shoot up Planned Parenthood terrorists? Okay fine we'll call them terrorist too but this is It's unfair what he is saying and it is not, it's an unfair comparison. That's beside the point that we are talking about. The topic of discussion is not some guy who shoots up Planned Parenthood. No. The topic of discussion are some radicals who go into a train station and blow up a car! And try to kill as many people as possible

1:35:56 So he's saying you know really making a point warded by Muslims and of course as we both know Chris the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all Okay, so he's saying the greater majority of domestic Muslim is attacked the terrorist attacks. Yeah terrorist attacks okay That's probably technically true I guess but he knows it's out We're talking I would say historically it has to be true yes Yes, especially if you go all the way back to the 1800s. I'm sure that every guy with a pipe bomb... when i was a kid, I remember every report about once every three or four or five twice a year about a pipe bomb being planted in front of a bank

1:36:41 And there's some guy, he had a grievance with the bank and he put a pipe bomb out there and either exploded it or didn't. That's terrorism but it's not really... He is trying to make a point like it's a grievance. It's not like terrorism. Exactly, but he's just trying to move it away And of course as we both know Chris the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all They're by people like Timothy McVeigh and so you know We've got to understand terrorism as a generalized threat various ideologies that drive it But no I think that I think we can get through this but people like Trump and Cruz are not helping. All right

1:37:21 I'm just going to quickly go to Shields and Brooks. Now, they were on... Is that Democracy Now! that they show up on or is it the News Hour? The News Hour. That's your PBS News Hour. Here's the so these are the two this Brooks he writes for they both write right to The New York Times now. No, I don't know where she'lls write said Brooks is The New York Times apologist He's supposed to be there representative of the Republican Party and all he does is see I have a bunch of clips from him Yeah, I got seized over Donald Trump I got this one here was striking some of the reaction among the Republican candidates for president David you had Ted Cruz saying what we need to do is send

1:36:41 And there's some guy, he had a grievance with the bank and he put a pipe bomb out there and either exploded it or didn't. That's terrorism but it's not really... He is trying to make a point like it's a grievance. It's not like terrorism. Exactly, but he's just trying to move it away And of course as we both know Chris the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all They're by people like Timothy McVeigh and so you know We've got to understand terrorism as a generalized threat various ideologies that drive it But no I think that I think we can get through this but people like Trump and Cruz are not helping. All right

1:37:21 I'm just going to quickly go to Shields and Brooks. Now, they were on... Is that Democracy Now! that they show up on or is it the News Hour? The News Hour. That's your PBS News Hour. Here's the so these are the two this Brooks he writes for they both write right to The New York Times now. No, I don't know where she'lls write said Brooks is The New York Times apologist He's supposed to be there representative of the Republican Party and all he does is see I have a bunch of clips from him Yeah, I got seized over Donald Trump I got this one here was striking some of the reaction among the Republican candidates for president David you had Ted Cruz saying what we need to do is send

1:37:58 more security into patrolling basically neighborhoods where Muslim Americans live. Did he say patrolling, basically? I don't think he said patrolling but okay that may be an ad-lib on on her part. Neighborhoods where Muslim Americans live Yeah, I've spent the last week so repulsed by Donald Trump that I'd forgotten how ugly Ted Cruz could be but he reminded us this week There we go You know as i said and everyone says The reason we have terrorism is not because the prophet Mohammed came down and not cause there's a religion called Islam It's true The reason why we have terror Is that young men are alienated And feel they can wage war An unjust war against societies

1:38:40 racist and xenophobic and crushing toward them. And if you want to spread that message a good way would be to have extra police operations directed at Muslim neighborhoods, so Ted Cruz's idea is probably the worst idea well only of the day because we have a lot in this campaign. A truly terrible idea only saved by the fact it's almost certain he doesn't actually believe it. He just wants to sound like Donald Trump Okay, so and that was... There's an analysis for you. Well here comes the other guys analysis but important to note is what he saying is this is so wrong to be mon- He effectively okay You can call it patrolling or you can call it monitoring Let's stop right there And let's stick with the idea of patrolling What would be wrong

1:39:27 I know in Oakland, in the black communities where they're always complaining because they have so much black on black crime that there's never any cops around when they need them. And in the olden days especially in towns and places like Minnesota that might have a town like Minneapolis or some other place where you'd have these neighborhoods where they used to have cops on the beat Walking the beat. Yes, and so would that be bad? You don't want a cop walking the beat or do you? I think David put his finger on it. It was ironic Judy as the Republican Party to avoid Donald Trump is rallying reluctantly against their own will around Ted Cruz

1:40:09 he reminded them and everybody else why they didn't like him in the first place. I mean this is an awful, awful position it's... when the Indian Information League comes out and compares it to the imprisonment incarceration of Japanese Americans during World War II When Police Commissioner Bill Bratton of New York says he has no idea at all what he's talking about there are thousand Muslim Americans many of them combat veterans on the New York police force. It was It's beyond stupid. Okay, so besides the obvious question as to why neither of these gentlemen have spoken about the atrocities also committed by ISIS that involve brown people because that is just not newsworthy Brown people don't bleed the lead

1:40:54 But how is it any different from what is happening right now in Brussels? Belgian prosecutors have charged a man with terrorist offenses, in relation to the Brussels attacks. The suspect was named as Faisal C., but no further information was given However, Belgium media are reporting that he's the third man seen on CCTV at the airport alongside two suspected suicide bombers Le Soir newspaper said he was identified by the taxi driver who took them to the airport No weapons or explosives were uncovered during a search of the suspect's home. Two other men were charged with terrorist activities and membership of a terrorist group. Three people were arrested in Brussels on Friday, including one man shot in the leg at a tram stop in the Skarbek area of the city. He'll be held for a further 24 hours. In total nine people have been arrested in Belgium as investigations continue to uncover jihadist networks in the wake of the Brussels attacks

1:41:49 Police said that 24 victims from nine different nationalities had been identified so far. So why aren't we screaming about profiling and patrolling and doing all this now? I guess it's okay once people have been blown up, but to do preventative work it's not okay because racism. Yeah! Yes. Yeah! John help me understand why... what is the...? I'm just trying to understand I'm hearing people say, and it's come down to this stupid verbiage which is not important. The reason is why when someone says hey it looks like the terrorists are... we got other terrorists too but looks like these Muslims are terrorist Muslims they're radical Islamic jihadists whatever you want Why is everyone so afraid to say this particular section

1:42:44 of Muslims, not okay. We have Sunnis and Shias! And we're all those are there's the bad ones or is it good ones? Why won't we say that why did the Muslims in America not understand we need to figure out which which of these people are the shitty ones now I think you're missing the point i guess i am The point is that Republicans are a-holes And we're on television, so let's make a point of finding either Trump or Cruz are one of the two and just calling them out for being racist pigs. And sexists! So the people that are doing that do not have America's best interests at heart? No they have the interest of the Democrat Party at heart. Of course. Worse ratings they only care about ratings. It's ratings! Ratings... You're actually taking it seriously I'm stunned

1:43:32 Well, what can I tell you? Here's... So I got this. Since you brought it up, I want to just get this clip out of the way. This is the clip of the bus stop takedown that they mentioned in there and this is from DW so this is a European. They have the sweetened with the little girl. They brought some little girl told her to get out of the way because we're shooting. They take couple shots even though the girls there which I thought was irresponsible. Yeah. These guys are firing in the wild on the street, you know. The Belgian guy's like... Crazy! So they shoot this guy and the lady, they can't find anything it-the whole thing was a hoax just not a hoax but uh a screw up but this little girl and they're bringing come over here come over here because this guy has been is down he's down and bleeding and she's all mess and I hear these little girls screeching then there's just so pathetic But in this case They have her

1:44:25 Because they said they recorded everything and then they play her voice during the report of her saying mommy, mommy or something like that. Oh no... It's kind of pathetic except for the fact that you're hearing an adult woman's voice. That's odd. Well, you tell me! You play this clip and tell me what YOU think. Officers with their guns trained on this man lying amid the shattered glass of a tram stop they've shot him twice in the leg apparently thinking he is a terrorist eyewitnesses are telling us that the man was here at the tram stop with a child They say down this platform police came with long guns. They don't seem to be ordinary traffic cops, something happens and they shoot him twice even though he's with a child. That young girl police beckoned to her and she goes to them the neighbors anguished as they record it all

1:45:14 The man lies on the ground motionless, still clutching his bag as a bomb disposal robot draws near. Then three masked officers approach grabbing the wounded man by his arms and dragging him off to their waiting car afterwards. The bomb disposal experts scours the tram tracks Belgian authorities say this was an anti-terror operation but tonight That's all they'll say. They won't identify the man. Gracia Mehta, who shot much of the video from her window tells me the man yelled at police he was innocent. He kept saying I have nothing this is for nothing. Yes she says this is what really hurt me Wow hmm yeah

1:46:03 I don't know. I'm not, I don't, I can't add to that. No, you notice when it was kind of switched off American news coverage and get to these European outlets and it's just more disturbing way more disturbing than America stuff. Let's see. I got two things here or let's see Trump hate. Let's just do this quickly over going to do Trump hate. I got some good stuff. Okay? Well let's start off by just saying that the best podcast in universe had the information months ago about Ted Cruz having an extramarital affair. The sequence of events is it comes out in the National Enquirer, they have five witnesses they've paid to speak which is how they do it which is why we trust a lot of this political coverage and National Inquirer that is immediately blamed on Trump And I think we can both agree Trump has his fingers all over that

1:47:01 I'm sure he does. Somebody sent me a nasty note, you got and this by the way nothing galls me more than this phrase You didn't do your homework! What am i? I'm not in the eighth grade there is no homework Anyway so I didn't do my homework Trump his best pals with the guy who runs The National Choir This Pecker guy, the guys Pecker name it's great name But there's no evidence of this. I mean, we played that clip before where Trump says he's friends with everybody Yeah, I'm sure he says his friends with the guy yeah but if you look at the guy these you can see they have nothing in common They're not even in the same age group and it's ludicrous but and also nobody And I mentioned I had to write back to this guys is nobody is going to risk a liable slander suit

1:47:45 For their pal, but just because he needs it for some political leverage. It's not gonna happen Oh absolutely Just makes no sense But we're pretty sure it was held back and this was good to go that's not something they just put together This is I think has been yeah? It's probably been sitting on the shelf ready to pop whenever whenever requested they have a lot of stuff in the can over there Hello? Yeah. It was your turn to say something, okay well they have a lot of stuff in the can over there yeah they have a lot of stuff course they do this morning just to gauge the Trump campaign it appears that besides Cruz is now the Muslim guy this is the strategy I'm saying Cruz highly ironic Cruz must be beside himself he is and also because you know some part of this inquired story is true

1:48:38 But anyway, Muslim hate goes towards him. He's trying to deflect that. You know what? Cruz might have put it out himself to deflect from the Muslim hate who knows who knows at this point. That seems like extreme well now they're going after Trump for his women hate that is kind of... He hates women yeah Yeah really really hates women so this is uh that The guy who worked for Jeff Sessions for eight years This is the real consultant Trump has Stephen Miller We talked about him previously and they got under his skin at this morning on CNN.

1:49:14 This one I get off. I should have forgot who she was she was pretty good actually and she is just saying hey look Trump hates women that is the message and this guy really got pissed off because they try to pin some of it on him And just listen to the exchange There's nothing feigned here, I watched your interview with Kate Baldwin and god bless her for being as tough on you as you He's talking about Stephen Miller his interview with Kate Baldwin I don't think this guy's had a lot of media training just yet.

1:48:38 But anyway, Muslim hate goes towards him. He's trying to deflect that. You know what? Cruz might have put it out himself to deflect from the Muslim hate who knows who knows at this point. That seems like extreme well now they're going after Trump for his women hate that is kind of... He hates women yeah Yeah really really hates women so this is uh that The guy who worked for Jeff Sessions for eight years This is the real consultant Trump has Stephen Miller We talked about him previously and they got under his skin at this morning on CNN.

1:49:14 This one I get off. I should have forgot who she was she was pretty good actually and she is just saying hey look Trump hates women that is the message and this guy really got pissed off because they try to pin some of it on him And just listen to the exchange There's nothing feigned here, I watched your interview with Kate Baldwin and god bless her for being as tough on you as you He's talking about Stephen Miller his interview with Kate Baldwin I don't think this guy's had a lot of media training just yet.

1:50:05 Okay, go ahead and respond. That is absolutely inappropriate sir! I'm not yelling at you if you yell at me that's fine. I will because... You know what? There are people- Let him finish. No there are- You misquoted me. Now mistake number one he doesn't remember actually what he was said. Misquoting me that is a lie What did you say? I said in that interview Yeah see when you throw that in I said In that interview I was pretty certain that i was mentioning. He's trying to think about what he said, fail fail Miller! I said in that interview what I'm saying right now which is that it is a trivial issue to debate deep to be debating retweets when it is a fact that you have Americans dying every single day as a result of immigration policies

1:50:55 That's what I was saying. You said that we don't have real solutions to problems? I just spent the other day in Johnstown, Pennsylvania a once great American town A thriving hub of industry The steel industry shut down and the town is dying You know why the steel industry shut down? Because the political class in D.C didn't care about product dumping Didn't care about foreign cheating Just like Americans all over this country see their communities destroyed by uncontrolled migration Alright he's getting way off track Let's bring it back to the female hate! Wow talking about going under the rails What? I said he went off the rails. He's trying to move away from the women hate, but it's like so obvious that guy should be fired. Migration. Oh my God! This is not a joke! You want to talk about women issues here's something we should be talking about this is fact as result of uncontrolled migration into this country you can look up statistics from Equality Now.

1:51:53 cardinal mistake of bringing it back to women himself, the idiot. Half a million US girls in this country are at risk of female genital mutilation. Oh my God! That is- This is exactly what happens! He said something outrageous and I'm not saying anything outrageous You don't think that statistic is correct? No, I don't think a half a million girls are at risk Let me review Wait you don't think that's a statistic Come on, Poe Burnham to fight and respond. Go ahead, Neera go ahead The fact is that if we actually want to fight sexism in America I agree with Doug that the wrong way to go is Donald Trump who judges women on their looks who says terrible things about women in every way because she has no examples which is always weak

1:52:41 about women in every way he could possibly do. No, not every way! That's not true you're weak you don't have anything and in every way he could possibly to do and the reality is that the reason why he's losing women in the general electorate The reason why independent women young conservative women say they will never vote for Donald Trump Is because of what he does everyday Not a retweet just things that come out his mouth regularly There you go. This is a meme by the way mm-hmm I didn't get a good clip of it, but when I was doing the thing about Bernie Sanders I listened to his entire speech Yeah And he would does a rant on Trump in the middle of the speech okay? and here and then one thing he says was Donald Trump insults women every day every hour every day

1:53:34 He insults women every day. This is like an ongoing meme because this is the way, as we've known and we talked about on the show, that Democrats are very good at getting women to become Democrats or... We did this with a discussion of gun control and scaring the women, oh guns are bad, I would never shoot a gun. And you can see that it has a good effect and they're doing this with Trump. Now if I can switch to another clip that backs this up I want to play David Brooks, who we had earlier. You had him on? Yep And who's an insane maniac Trump-hater Who is supposed to be representing... Instead of... Here is a guy as an analyst on PBS NewsHour and instead of giving us any insight Right

1:54:24 He just spews. He is the worst kind of hater and he's relentless, play this one This is David Brooks on the loveless Trump It hadn't been for what he... how he reacted to it The other thing about his whole career and his whole language His whole worldview Is there's no room for love in it There's.. you get the sense of a man who received no love can give no love So his relationship with women has no love in it Its trophy And his relationship toward the world is one of competition and beating And as if he's going to win by competition what other people get by love. So you really are seeing someone who just has an odd psychology, unleavened by kindness and charity but where it is all winners and losers beating and being beaten. That is part of the authoritarian personality that comes out in his attitudes towards women.

1:55:17 I'm sorry, is he talking about the National Football League or is he talking about Donald Trump? Because all I see is black guys and everyone wants to kick the white guy's ass and then the black guy going hit their girlfriends. What F! I would say in his defense, which i didn't think i'd use that phrase. His relationship with his children seems quite good. With his daughter and with his sons and they seem like... They don't seem like malevolent people at all. They seem very benevolent. I wonder what their reaction is to all this? What did he say under his breath because their not what? Their not evil?

1:55:53 He said they're not evil. Oh my god! Which implies that Trump is evil. They don't seem like malevolent people at all, they seem like very benevolent people. I wonder what their reaction is to this? Exactly. Mark Shields, David Brooks... They're not evil. This is the kind of analysis- Is it supposed to be analysis? What kinda logic is that?! There's no logic involved. He is just a hater So let's play David Brooks spewing one and calling Trump a coward A day later, Trump ratcheted up the war of the wives when he retweeted an unflattering image of Mrs Cruz Polls show Trump standing with women voters has worsened in recent months

1:56:38 According to the latest Washington Post ABC News poll, 64% of women say they have a strongly unfavorable reaction to him. That is 18 points higher than it was in August. So what do we say about this? I mean you know did we ever think that this was going to be the lead story out of a campaign for president of the United States. Yeah, I mean that's the first thing you say are we really here? Is this really happening is this America are we great country talking about trying to straddle the world and create opportunity in this country it's just mind-boggling when we've sort of become acculturated because this campaign has been so ugly we've become acculturated to sleaze and unhappiness that you just want to shower from every 15 minutes

1:57:25 Oh man! a diseased adolescent. Isn't that the worst? Now here he goes, this is unfortunately misspelled as Favet Brooks and this is the end of that rant. This is spewing too. Yeah I got it hold on uh and so we've seen a bit of that show up again but if you go back over his past calling in radio shows bragging about his affairs talking about his sex life in public uh he's childish in his immaturity and even his misogyny

1:58:11 is a childish misogyny. And that's why I do not think Republicans, standard Republicans can say yeah i'm going to vote for this guy because he's our nominee He is of a different order than your normal candidate and this whole week is just another reminder of that Could this finally be something Mark that really does hurt Donald Trump? Well we've predicted nine of his last eight stumbles and they have yet all materialize Judy Whoever did that political action committee ad has to be thrilled. I mean, because it elicited from Donald Trump the worst of his personality—the bullying...

1:58:50 This is not analysis. I also can't blame them because this is the filters through which they view everything and these are the elites, these are the elites and they just want happy-go-lucky... They have jobs you know? They got jobs don't worry about it. There's been a lot of discussion on some of these C-SPAN where we get into little deeper on anything about this bubble concept And these guys are in a bubble. I mean, Brooks in particular...I don't believe he could go and stand in line at a McDonald's or go buy shoes or do anything. In New York sure but I think these guys are so dissociated from the general public that they are out of touch and what kind of analysis we're going to get from people that are that out-of-touch?

1:59:43 It's not out of touch, John. It's just the reality which they view everything... They truly- there is I can hear it these people absolutely believe this is the devil incarnate and they're believing the same for Cruz you know just bad bad evil bad evil bad bad bad bad bad evil bad. This is an Obama bot phenomenon Totally the Obama bot phenomenon Yes! There's the same phenomenon but and that was a big but BUT David Brooks is supposed to be representing an analysis from a Republican perspective. He's just another Obama bot! Horrible... Now let me shift to Dame Hillary for a moment, as we had this new cache of emails come out and everyone sifting through it Thank you WikiLeaks for making that searchable The first thing I always do is search for Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak Damnit We're never in these emails

2:00:38 I'm just hoping, hey those Curry and Dvorak boys. You should listen to them." No none of that. They nailed it! Instead we learned something about our friends Google In the emails we see evidence of cooperation between Google and the US State Department with a goal of trying to oust Bashar Assad out Syria This by the way is our girlfriend Chaya The emails are from 2012 The head of Google Ideas at the time wrote this to Clinton's team They did a cutesy little package. Sorry, I should have edited that out it was just so cute. Deputy Secretary Burns Jake Alec

2:01:18 Please keep close hold, but my team is planning to launch a tool that will publicly track and map the defections in Syria. Our logic behind this is that nobody's visually representing and mapping the defections which we believe are important." I don't like the voice they're using for these emails! We could have done much better than this guy... are important in encouraging more to defect and giving confidence to the opposition. We're partnering with Al Jazeera who will take primary ownership, please keep this very close hold and let me know if there's anything else you think we need to account for or think about before

2:01:57 before take primary ownership of the tool. Al Jazeera did exactly that, listed the interactive map on its website and even received an award for the best technical innovation! Exactly for the very tool that Google created. Nice work Google helping out fighters You know that's kind of interesting in light of the fact

2:02:38 Clinton ownership of the State Department, she made a public comment about how great Al Jazeera is as the news source. You remember that? I sure do! She said something to the effect that they were kicking our ass...I think Yeah or something Well I'd like to dig that clip up Well hold on Clinton-Al Jazeera maybe, well maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe AJ would be an also way you should refer to Al Jazeera's AJ Leaving the country. Yeah, I don't know if we have that. We could've must have entitled something else No, no, I can't find oh wait wait wait Oh, we might get lucky here Al Jazeera has been the leader in that are literally changing people's minds and attitudes. Oh That's even better hey you guys over there changing people's minds and attitudes now We got a little tool for you a tool

2:03:42 There you go. So Google in bed with the government, wow! Gee who would have thunk that huh? Yeah and why is Palantir never mentioned? That's a good question that has actually been marginalized for some reason. They got the kibosh after Snowden came out with it but oh no that's just some tool called Palantir. That's not the company name Palantir started by In-Q-Tel uh huh. Oh they definitely put that on the back to make it... Graded out. I have an update here John two little quick updates first of all the The guy who was arrested for the mealy mouth comment on? Twitter He was he would let go Unless he is fired from school now they let no no, there were two This is not the teacher this is the the guy who

2:04:38 said, oh this these mealy mouth I got a mealy mouth reply and that was racist. Racist exactly so he was let free they let him on they let him out they said well that was here following discussion with the crown prosecution service They took that up pretty high. Mr Doyle is no longer charged with the offense and will not be appearing in court, police may not make charging decisions and offenses under section 19 of the Public Order Act that's what he was charged under there will be further consultations with CPS so they will talk to you about this yeah it's got to generate a lot of bad publicity more supporters of UKIP Yeah we can't have that oh there was also a update hold on a second

2:05:24 Where was that? There was an update about... Yes, this one. Here we go. Belgium is a nation on high alert following the rush hour attacks at the airport and metro stop in the capital Brussels Airport announced it will not reopen for passenger flights before Tuesday as experts examine the damage to the building Now attention is turning to the security of the country's nuclear facilities after 11 workers had their security passes revoked due to intelligence warnings. Though security was stepped up around the plants, the EU's counter-terrorism chief says that the facilities and other infrastructure remain at risk of a cyber attack. Some guy was found dead! Well I thought with the reports I saw it they shot him

2:06:13 Well, I'm talking about the guy used to that worked at yes Yeah III heard the he was shot during a takedown but that could be wrong. I don't know well I understood that he was found dead and then his security badge was missing and this caused a big panic Oh how hard is it to turn off the RFID? Number apparently isn't possible sees Emory University Oh, that's a good... this is a good story. Yeah I wish i had a clip of it! I wish I could get a clip of it either. I looked, I looked, I looked. Well the clips I got were lame. They were from comedy shows So apparently there were pro-Donald Trump chalk markings as we call them now It's not words Chalk markings We all know that the typical Donald Trump supporter can't actually write so must be just check markings after witnessing the horrific messages

2:07:06 Several students now feel unsafe on campus. And Emory's student government has declared emergency measures will be enacted to deal with the crisis! Yeah, the chalk markings consist of Vote Trump, Trump and Trump 2016 The uh... Is this the president? Yes. Apparently, this just ruined some kids' day. I think this whole story is a hoax personally. No no...this brings true to me. President Wagner said the incident provided the impetus for the university to implement quote immediate refinements to certain policy and procedural deficiencies regular and structured opportunities for difficult dialogues a formal process to institutionalize identification review

2:07:56 and addressing of social justice opportunities and issues, and a commitment to an annual retreat to renew our efforts." What does that mean? It means money. Well the money thing is also coming into play I hear that where's Yale located? Yale is in Connecticut I believe Yes yes Connecticut it looks like Connecticut they're so hard up for money They're saying, we're going to tax endowments over $10 billion. Yale has an endowment of about $26 billion. Very good idea! Excellent idea! Yeah it's a wealth tax. The beginning people. 26 billion dollars? Holy crap! And they keep charging the students more and more and more. Yale could put every single student in America today through Yale

2:08:58 with that kind of money. Yeah, well don't you think? They definitely can put a lot of people through there's a lot of money. Geez! That'd be beautiful uh Hillary Clinton is doing a dinner with George and Amal Clooney then you can have dinner with them John now remember the Democrats have all the rich people I mean the Republicans at least that's what we're let i misspoke already but the we've learned that the Republicans they're the rich fuckers the Koch brothers everybody trying to buy everything How much do you think this dinner per person will cost? Well, since it's for the normal Democrats I would say 10 bucks maybe because a normal Democrat... Chip in. Chip in Mimi! Chip in. Just chip in. Chip in $1. Yeah how much just make a guess well they're always asking me for a dollar so it really can't be much more than 20 okay give me the other end of the spectrum if you were just to crazy amount of money oh yeah 30 grand 30 grand okay

2:10:00 Survey says $353,000. Holy crap! Yeah Who has that kind of money? That just to buy... Republicans Wait no it's who has that money for dinner? Oh brother! She must be entertaining Republicans she is crazy That's outrageous. I knew about this dinner, but you can go free by the way if there is a raffle. They bring one pauper, one regular democrat off the street to come in and he has no shoes, just cloth wrapped around your feet raggedy pants that are made from shirts and you come in with no haircut and you get to go to this thing it's just a raffle and they all get to point and laugh at ya

2:10:53 Cool. So I added my name. I bet you did! A cool article, I came across the eight things you need to know about Ted Cruz's sex scandal. I think this is good for us for our show Yeah Number one the National Enquirer was correct about John Edwards Tiger Woods and Jesse Jackson? I guess that's just pointing it out number two The Washington Times reporter confirmed the story and he got fired over it Yeah, he tweeted coming clean from what I know at least two of the women named as Cruz's mistresses by the National Enquirer are accurate this guy got fired and He's with wet paper The Washington Times The Washington Times and is that a right wing or left-wing paper? I really don't know. I do right wing It's a right wing leading Republican part paper number three my son young moon of the Moonies

2:11:48 Yeah, Washington Times. Oh I didn't know that! It's a very conservative paper so why would it be conservative paper? Well the conservative paper would be all in for Cruz because he is more conservative in traditional sense than Trump but to fire the guy you know... It shows what's going on. For tweeting! It shows whats going on that's why its I find interesting Breitbart had this story but chose not to publish as witnessed by tweets from Alan Bakari I hate getting scooped Ah, yes. Okay it's trending on Twitter... Let's see... Most of these women have been identified.... Let's see what else do we have? Hmm... Oh is one of them appears to be Donald Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pearson

2:12:37 that he had an affair with? Apparently. That would be kind of interesting, playing that game! And of course also surfacing now is the Texas Police report from 2005 where Heidi Cruz was claimed a danger to herself when they found her sitting near I-35 It's not a good place to hang out Heidi. That's probably what Trump was referring you too. Yeah yeah Now Ted Cruz is a mess He is a mess booger eater. We know that was a booger eater yeah, that did it for me Was over the line hey, but did you see the meeting between Putin and Kerry? No I did this was odd Yeah So there

2:13:23 I presume they're in Geneva again. They have a meeting, it's a big oval table. Putin is on one side with his guys, Kerry is on the other side with his guys... I did see this meeting you're right now so they have translators and what I did just left a little piece of the Russian in there but if you want and I'd love for some of our Russian native speakers to check out the clip in the show notes 811.noagendanotes.com let us know that this exactly what Putin said But today when I saw the footage of you going down, the plane carrying your luggage. I was a bit frustrated and upset On the one hand it's quite democratic way of conduct but on the other hand

2:14:05 the situation in the United States is not that good and there is no one to assist Secretary of State in carrying his luggage. So now, first he starts off by saying hey bro, hey Broseph you were carrying your own luggage off the plane was very funny what's wrong with the United States your economy I thought you had a good economy well how sad maybe it just because you want to be a democratic guy and carry your own suitcase? I hear your economy is okay Maybe you brought some money with you to haggle.

2:14:57 Kerry's response is also beautiful. But in earnest, we are really glad to see you. Well Mr President thank you. When we have a private moment I'll show what's in my briefcase and I think he will be surprised. Pleasantly? Oh wow! Wow what do you think he has in the suitcase?! Well, it's got to be a surprise. I have no dildos! I think it's girly magazines. Hey, hey Vladimir, you want to see some awesome boobs? There used to be a guy that was one of the editors of Eye Spy...I think is the name of the magazine or that was... Spy? Spy Magazine? Private Eye in England who used to make a...who always used to pack his suitcase full of dildoes when he went through airport security

2:15:56 Because it always because there'd be all these dildos in there so they always have to open Open the bag and pass these things around and see if they were okay. Did he do this for his own jollies? Yes, it was he thought it was hilarious that that the Homeland Security guys would have to handle all these dildo's at airport security Seems like a funny idea. Yeah, I don't know if it's that fun But that's what I said That's why I said because I figured you knew that story yeah, that's why I said that is what John Kerry's got in his briefcase No probably not but I like that I liked Vladimir cracking some jokes

2:16:35 I've seen him do other stuff, he's actually quite funny. He is very funny. If you watch enough... not so much RT, they don't show his humorous moments as much as they do at Deutsche Welle and some of these other European outlets He's always making jokes. Yeah, and he speaks English! He should just give it a shot... This is another part of the problem why we don't carry any of these ISIS attacks in other countries in sandy areas with brown people. There's no one can talk You gotta have translators. It reminds me... It doesn't flow, it's not fun! They moved 11 guys, 11 FBI guys into Belgium Do you think these guy are just FBI guys or do you think they actually can speak French or German? Or anything other than English Absolutely I would hope Yeah absolutely But for TV it is no good This is all Just ask yourself why television isn't covering it Are these people worth less then white people

2:17:37 Possibly? And that'll be my final one before we go into the D-block. This is very disturbing, okay... The National Union of Students and this is in the UK they have a campaign the LGBT plus campaign uh they have called for those who represent white gay men to be removed from LGBT societies at their yearly conference in Sheffield this week The reason why, and I quote... gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT community. I'm sorry white gay men So what they're saying now is that cis... it's now cis-gay men in other words they're gay and they belong to be gay i think or they feel that way and they are what they are if there are white gay men They are not suppressed

2:18:39 and therefore they don't really need to be in our union. Yeah, screw them! Get out Whitey! It's unbelievable. Here it is... The motion the group passed specifically implies discrimination and prejudice is more likely to happen if white cis gay men dominate their society Cisgender, often abbreviated to cis refers to people whose physiology and identity match the gender they were assigned at birth with. So only I guess if you're closeted or confused... We need to add a c. Lesbian gay bisexual transgender and confused All these organizations tend to fall apart from within? I hope so my goodness bickering

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2:29:22 Everybody's helping. Oh man, yeah again follow the story was short-lived a story about this stupid bot named Tay Yeah I wish I had seen the stupid bot name tay and of course it got all this really It just sounds like more dumb stuff from Microsoft. I thought it was pretty funny to naive at a well are we doing tech news? Well, that's the only tech news I have. It's not worth the jingle but i did want to say that Apple has a huge problem on their hands it cropped up this weekend. I think mainly because of the Easter holiday that hasn't gotten coverage it needs yet

2:29:59 But they have a serious problem inside iOS 9.3, have you been following any of this? No I haven't because they don't use it but i did see your tweets and you seem to be concerned about something Yeah so... It started happening slowly and then everyone was told oh 9.3 is the update that will fix this What was happening if you clicked on link in Safari or if you click on the link pretty much anything that uses the webkit in iOS. I think even Firefox is just a shell over the webkit, but the shell responds differently mainly to JavaScript so there's something going on with JavaScript and if you click on a link in Safari it freezes Safari If you click on a link in the Apple Mail app It freezes the mail app

2:30:46 And now it's happening with everything. So even the Twitter app, you want to click a link in Twitter then Twitter freezes and so I did a lot of research because it affects me directly and It looks like the shared web credentials or some process which is running to share web credentials in the whole iOS platform Something is broken, but it's happening primarily with JavaScript and it looks to me I'm just poking in the wind here. I think I know what this might be To me It looks like Google is fucking with ad blocking somehow and doing something with Javascript that is messing up

2:31:27 Apple. JC, they had big meetings at their company that teach JavaScript and apparently the one of the... Was it change made to JavaScript? That's also possible. No it wasn't change made to Javascript there was shared libraries Mm-hmm that everybody refers to they don't keep the libraries on the on the device and They bring him in through there was something it's not github But it's a thing that's related to github where is all these libraries that are out there that you link to yeah? A lot of it is the Google API be bringing fonts and stuff from them when they bring all this stuff in but this one guy Had a somebody called some little dipshit company called him out for one of his JavaScript modules and Apparently you know the threatened assume or something the guy got irked And he pulled all of his Javascript modules off of this shared site, and apparently He's one of these guys who produces. You know thousands and thousands Little bits that see our little bits that people actually use

2:32:32 So the big scandal now since he pulled all this stuff half of this stuff on that uses this JavaScript making is now crapping out Because they instead of keeping their their library someplace else or local because the new thinking it's like He was talking about some old-timers that there said yeah, you should never do that. You should always keep your stuff local and And which is not what you do anymore. You keep everything like those micro, what's it called? Micro services where you don't keep anything local. You're just poking all over the place and your things... Of course this is millennials who are developing this shit they believe the Internet's always there. That was a big argument with millennial thinking versus these old timers. Why'd you do that? You're taking a big risk

2:33:17 And so now everything's failing left and right, it may not have anything at all to do with that. Well I'm seeing...I saw some other stuff go on um that the uh Safari is now blue so as i continue to study the accessibility stuff and there's these fonts that you bring in that are specific fonts that people can read blind or low sight people obviously low sight people can see better But there if you have a web page and in your I think it's probably the CSS if you're calling for any resource that is either encrypted or not encrypted but the exact opposite of the server You're calling it from Safari now blocks that by itself so if you have an unencrypted site, and you're calling in an encrypted resource an HTTPS resource Safari now blocks that

2:34:08 And this is not widely documented. This is part of this HTTPS everywhere, I guess the drink and the Kool-Aid too But something is going very very wrong with Apple and this thing rendered my phone really useless So the only way to kind of get around it... Oh! There's a difference. I have a regular 6, Tina has the 6S She does not have the problem It looks like Apple fixed the problem but didn't test it. Also, iPad 2 seems to work... Now why would that be? What's the difference between the 6 and the 6s except screen space? Well—and this is another clue—you have the long press and it peaks or pokes whatever they call it pops up a thing I think that's JavaScript related how they probably do that in the OS maybe? I'm not trying to say I know what I'm talking about

2:34:54 Anyway, that was so and of course everyone says oh just use the whole line a second again. Yeah why would you do that? Do I would you make a six and a 6S with basic baseline code being different enough that one would work under one circumstance in one worker there's no reason for this now but I think they don't know what's happening at this is This is a ending at the end anyway it is and thank you automatic updates This is the kind of stuff that happens Because I had a little bit of trouble once i put in 9.3 it was just thank you, but just no good and they had some other issues going on which is getting a lot more attention as some people had to input their for the new OS now you have to input your icloud password for some security gambit

2:35:40 Um, and people forgot that they weren't notified. Like, Hey go get your iCloud number password you'll need it for this. And then when you said oh do over then I just brick the phone so they're probably trying to fix those people first but this problem bricked up, bricked it yeah This problem is real. This is a, it should be popping tomorrow not everyone's you know because there's no tech press on the Eastern. Yeah that's not the same as reviewing their next new phone Well, this is part of the next new football anyway. It's not the same Is there a new cover? Hey they got some new straps Bands baby it's all about bands for the watches bands made out of vinyl Let me see as we wrap this up age material yeah fine

2:36:32 But, but this is a if you don't have it yet. You may have it within the next day or two It seems to build up over time but I'm telling you John this is everything in my body says there's something not good going on and like the information about the guy who just withdrew all of his all of his what would you call them packages? Or yeah, or as resources that's possible But it could also be something that Google changed in their code because it seems to be so many when you talk about microservices In the way this new architecture is there where everyone operates nowadays? Yeah, and you look into look behind of the Behind a door. It's frightening Yes It's all built on stuff

2:37:18 Because it's like, there is not one point of failure anymore. There are millions of points of failure and yes lots can be coded around and you have it well this doesn't work so this will take over or this doesn't work... You can code stuff so that works fine if something fails or falls apart but everyone has become so reliant on this It's unbelievable. Well, but also these days you know a JavaScript developers pretty much anybody who can Google and copy paste code from now what? What's the big one everyone uses? I don't know, JC knows all this stuff. Yeah you know what i'm talking about. There's a bunch of libraries out there you can just use and your skill nowadays is knowing how to find the right module and cut-and-paste yeah and stack overflow yes you can stack overflow but i'm not gonna about to do it no this is going to be one of the... we have a full time gig what are you talking about? We have no time for this nonsense copy pasting

2:38:22 uh eclipse which is a form of copy paste true it's the copy paste world this is the copy paste era you know I wrote a blog post about this in 1993. I think the copy paste something, I should look that up find that again... In our in our true um recession app based economy where ride sharing is all the rage Indonesia The shit is hitting the fan in Indonesia because of some new ride-sharing apps, but it has a twist. Anger on the streets of Indonesia's capital. Thousands of taxi drivers rallying to demand a ban on what they say is forcing them out of business Reuters Kanopriya Kapur explains what its all about

2:39:10 Jakarta is one of the most congested cities on the planet in terms of traffic and what has happened recently is that ride-hailing apps, online based apps have given consumers and residents of Jakarta a very popular alternative. Now what do you think this alternative is? Well it's got to be one of those little tricycle things! Some of the traditional taxi drivers... You mean a tuk-tuk?! Yes, that's what they're called. Some of them say that they have seen their incomes drop by as much as 60 percent because their passengers are opting for cheaper rides heavily subsidized rides The cutthroat price war is shaking up Indonesia's transport market

2:39:54 As well as the obvious threat from Uber, unprofitable cabs are giving way to motorcycle taxis dominated by two local rivals. Gojek which has capped the price of a motorbike ride at $1.15 anywhere in Jakarta and Grab which gives first time users up to 20 free rides But trying to force a law change won't be easy Part of that's down to government and different departments with different views Mm-hmm. That's pretty cool though you should see these guys I got nifty little motorcycles outfits and a helmet Jakarta, and I've been on those Motorcycles well the two tuks of the motorcycle that to other tricycles right to

2:40:33 But there are millions of them, they're all over the place. The buses are the worst because people are hanging out at them and it's horrible. Jakarta is the worst! Every time I say here is your top congested cities always LA or Los Angeles San Francisco... And I'm always thinking Jakarta has got to be way up there even though seems a move better than freeways around here Yeah, I had to take one of those little pieces of crap to the airport. I wrote the copy paste culture in 2003 actually Oh well that's pretty recent I'll say You need to take two vitamin b12 because of that blunder. I do

2:41:14 Um... quick North Korea update? A Korean-American man detained in North Korea has confessed to stealing military secrets and plotting subversion with South Koreans. Oops! Well that's not, I thought these were all missionaries and all nice guys and what is up with that? There's something odd in this report as it pertains to this because here he is guy saying alright I'm a spy According to the state news agency North Korean officials say Kim Dong-chul, who was arrested in October admitted to committing quote Unpardonable espionage under direction of the US and South Korean governments. I have been arrested on the spot of handing over a USB memory stick and documents containing the Republic's nuclear data and secrets Damn that's pretty serious How did he get that? Well

2:42:05 A tearful Kim apologized for his crime and said he was paid for doing it. Of course we don't know who paid him but hmm... There's actually another report that should, that talked about the operation more thoroughly And you have that report? No. And said he was paid for doing it His comments are similar to the recent confession of 21 year old This I don't understand She is saying this guy who admitted that he had stolen the North Korean nuclear secrets on a USB stick is similar to the kid who stole the propaganda poster? Where'd you get this clip? This is...

2:42:46 I think Reuters. For his crime and said he was paid for doing it. Listen to this, his comments are similar to the recent confession of 21 year old Otto Warmbier another American being held in North Korea how? How...I don't understand how that works it's not similar nothing similar about similarity no similarity unless there's something we don't know. I don't think so okay anything is possible The other kid was a goofball kid. He's grabbing a poster to take home, thinks it'd be funny. Yeah he could have bought the poster that's what I think they're irked about. Hey American Yankees, cheap skate... Exactly! If i go to North Korea which I intend to do

2:43:33 I'm gonna try to buy everything i see. Can I buy that? Can I buy that?" Yeah, I'll have an escort. I'l make sure to have an escort. You look great on TV! I didn't mean it! I didn't mean to buy that! I'm so sorry...I didn't know that was illegal It's just-it was just a Bordeaux what can I say Okay, translating on the fly from agent orange the guy who was a shot at the Brussels tram stop Good. Yes. Okay? I'm translating on the flies. It's like kind of hard his name is Amarud he is oh He is well known in jihadist circles. He had been Arrested he would owe the French court

2:44:18 convicted him to seven years of jail for being involved in the murder on the Afghani Commandant Masood. Wow, this is stretching my brain! Masood was the guy who was killed just a few days before 9-11 by his helicopter I think... by a suicide commando. Now Masood was a top figure he was the Taliban is what he was. Huh. Okay, so the murderers of Commodore Massoud had stolen Belgian passports? I don't know this is interesting. This story is falling apart. Well, I'm reading it verbatim...

2:45:06 That's the problem. Okay that that amarood is now showing up once again in our country is cause for concern Because it means that an old veteran an old Taliban veteran all of a sudden popping up if new terror Investigations in West Europe is huge cause for concern because now this guy is okay I think what they're saying is this guy is connected to such a well embedded well entrenched Terror network of the Taliban that it goes back ten years maybe that this guy was probably not at all connected to the Brussels bombers. Recent events, thank you. I've got to look into the Massoud story there's gotta be something... Why are they shooting a guy in the leg? We never do that! Well it is legal and part of the European constitution

2:45:58 If you are running away from police, then you're allowed to be shot by police. This is one of the first shows we did when we talked about that I remember this yeah, so they say well You can't have the death penalty in Europe Well you can if you're running away from the police and the police shoots you and they kill you it will be a legal kill So that's why they just shoot you in the leg which I kind of like but in the US We just shoot you in the head. I think I think the leg is better Well, you know the reason we can't do that here. We can't shoot people in the leg You can't wing them because you end up getting sued Exactly a dead man can't sue Dead men cancer That's all I got John you anything else well besides see well I can play the David Muir this though. I noticed this on ABC. I'm gonna stop watching ABC I move to CBS and then I'm gonna

2:46:49 But everything's breaking news. Of course! It's the story that says, breaking news, breaking news and so here is the latest breaking news and there is absolutely nothing in this summary whatsoever it was very useless waste of time. This scene unfolding today a man shot by police he had a backpack A little girl right there authorities calling to that girl A robot from the bomb unit approaching there on the right. Police have not named the man tonight, but this played out not far from where authorities say those suspects were building their explosives and this new video now emerging the moments after the bombing at the airport to fireball where passengers... Okay, so you can stop it doesn't go anywhere but I thought yeah the only thing that i think was about that clip the reason I did it was the uh this associative thing which is the guy was at a bus stop near

2:47:37 where something else took place. Because of that, that's good enough to shoot the guy." Yeah there are other things going on that is not being reported on for sure! That's what I'm guessing. And here is the thing that actually Horowitz brought up on the last DH Unplugged which he found peculiar and I am starting to think it's peculiar too this is the Belgian stock market Okay, hold on. I'm glad you have this The attacks in Brussels that killed 31 people and injured many more also disrupted the lives of thousands of ordinary European citizens Flights and train services were cancelled across the continent as Europeans scrambled to come to terms with the violence Stock markets are normally quite sensitive to events like this but strangely this time investors seemed unfazed

2:48:27 Outside the Brussels Stock Exchange on the Place de la Bourse, people gather here days after the attacks to mourn and pay homage to the victims. Inside the building however business as usual Belgian stocks didn't budge following the attacks just a few kilometers away Similar reaction at the London Stock Exchange after the bombings in the British capital in 2005. The FTSE 100 even managed to gain slightly in the days following the attacks. He pointed out that this is very, if you look historically, markets always take a beating for a day or two and then they rise and go higher. Sure! These haven't budged

2:49:13 It's like, oh whatever. He just thought that was very strange and I think it is kind of strange myself. Don't know what to make of it but its one of those observations we put on the show this time. How are aviation stocks in general? Are they down just in general? No, nothing. Interesting. Actually aviation stocks are going up because of the especially airliners are going up because the low fuel costs have changed them...the way you do the calculations so it looks like they can make more money. Well Tina The Keeper and I have a trip planned to Europe last week of April first week of May and we will be visiting the gay city of Paris now will be visiting even gayer city of Amsterdam and i think will make a little trip down to Brussels

2:49:56 You should. Yeah, just go have a look at it. It's just...it's just a shot over is not even that far. I will drive if you take the high-speed rail from Paris to uh... We'll drive. Just drive. Are we gonna drive? Yes not that far. Drive or well get some mussels in Brussels Belgium. Get some of those pommes frites and my final thought for the day is now that the FBI has said they don't need Apple Is that because they don't need Apple Or is Apple co- collaborating with them? Behind the scenes. Well, after you played that Google clip I think we know the answer to that question. Mmhmm Yeah, I want all the fanboys to think about that for a moment Not a single person has said, gee did they capitulate?! Where is... journalism? With an agreement that they would not That they would come up with this cock and bull story about We don't need Apple anymore Yep Part of the deal Yeah Oh well let's just leak some Israeli company Always sounds good

2:50:58 Yeah, they're into that sort of yeah exactly all right everybody anything I should watch John is a big game on today big game big game There's an Easter Warriors game at five o'clock Western time it might be fun don't we have the country music awards coming on tonight? I would know. I hope so! I find those award shows to be tedious science and there's too many ads No ads on this show because we are Running purely on you the producers of the best podcast in the universe. Please remember us for this coming Thursday Thursday Dvorak org slash na Coming to you from a gray day Wait, maybe there's a little bit of Sun here in the skyscraper The crackpot condo downtown Austin Tejas and FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's just a northern Silicon Valley kind of day

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2:53:35 Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in soot. Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in soot and smalls! The fact of the matter is that 99.5% of scientists and experts see the oceans rise more extreme weather events more drought, more flooding bigger hurricanes, typhoons... uhhhh.... And you might not That's the dream each of us has for ourselves and our families Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in sick. Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in sick. Burning it myself! Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in sick and smalls. Truckin' in, truckin' in, truckin' in sick. And you say...and you say... As a general rule I am just fine with drinkin the booze. Hold on a second. And drinkin the booze

2:55:03 No, no, no. Hey! Listen... And drinking the booze! It's not respectful when you get invited to somebody... I know that's right. You're not going to get a good response from me by interrupting like this?

2:55:42 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Come on. No, no, no, no. Shame on you! Hey! You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take you out Okay, where was I?