44:07 He could have said, he should've said for one thing you're not going to hear me swearing on network TV and watch the kids listen to cable. You know he gets distracted that's what happens. Well he hates these guys! I think he genuinely hates not all of them but a number of the media people oh yes now i picked up something after the show you and i were talking just Yeah, after show chatter. Post-mortem post mortem chatter and we were talking about his Trump's use of his hands with the finger up that goes to an okay sign finger up down up down up down He has another one too I picked up by since that conversation Which one is that?
44:50 He holds his finger, he makes a circle with his pointing finger and thumb. And then holds up the three fingers and then uses it to emphasize the point. Yes! He moves his hand back-and-forth... It's almost like what warriors do when they score 3 points by the way. He holds it and he goes like this, as though there's another point. And he has the pointer up in the air or the finger up in the air and then he has the rounded thing which also means a-hole in Italy I believe. Ah yes! Yes, yes... And he uses that when he wants to make a finer point So I finally saw one of my favorite body language experts show up on The Today Show
45:34 And that is Janine Driver. I think she's the real deal. She has a book... She's really good. Yeah, there's a book that she just came out with a new book called You Can't Lie to Me and she used to be a federal agent and her job was to catch people lying and she became so good that she had quite a career and then now she's doing that. She's teaching how to detect lies to the corporate world and in her books. And I started reading this, like holy crap this woman is so good! And she did a deconstruction... She did it for all the candidates but I only picked out Hillary Trump and Bernie
46:13 And it's a little long, obviously because there are couple minutes. But I think it's worth listening to and discussing because now you can pick up all these subtle little cues. And what's nice about this is when she talks about Clinton and then about Trump the Good Morning or The Today Show The hosts are baffled, they're flummoxed. You'll hear some of that... Wait a minute how come you don't see Trump as a Nazi? This isn't crazy! Good morning. We dissect their words so much, but you're going to clue us into their body language and actually the piece that I cut out was her explaining how she does this for corporations until hold up five hula hoops and she'll say okay all you CEOs who are here for this course or senior managers go through the hula hoops but when she tells them to do that, she uses a wave snake like motion
47:14 while she's explaining it. And so instead of just walking straight through the hula hoops, these CEOs and senior managers follow her visual cue and start to go through it like a snake in a wave. Her explanation wasn't all that great but so she's just saying is very important this visual body language cues. Which because there are some tells as well what kind of leader they would be right? Absolutely we actually look at body language more often than words. Alright let's start by taking a look at Hillary Clinton Let's play the sound and tell us what you see. I've always been somebody who believed that I, with my blessings had an opportunity and obligation to do what I could help others And that is what i will do as president Now let's rewind You might not have even seen it Did you see it? No It's a shoulder shrug Watch this A shoulder shrug indicates uncertainty Look at this We have one shrug already Two shrugs right here We're going to have third There we go The hat trick of shoulder shrugs right here Woo! The hat trick of shoulder shrugs Could no be good I don't think A shoulder shrug is uncertainty
48:10 So when you're saying a definitive answer, listen I'm doing this not for me. I'm doing it for the public and I shrug it cancels out your message. You can hear the NBC of whoa What? Shoulder shrug is uncertainty. But if I ever said to you, hey Willie, did you ever cheat on your wife and you say no... That actually comes up! It doesn't mean that you're a cheater maybe you know your neighbor is cheating so we don't know what the catalyst is here for Hillary but it will hurt her message And do voters pick up on those views subconsciously? Yes subconsciously they do pick up on our brain its called an N400 An N400 this is something I'm very interested in
48:46 The N400s neuroscience. It's a Lionel train, is it? No? Yes! Just like the Zephyr. It's from neuroscience and there is an OBOT dinner coming up soon with the brain professor so I'll be able to get all the details on N400. Yeah, making a note exactly Cheating so we don't know what the catalyst is here for Hillary, but it will hurt her message And you think voters pick up on those subconsciously subconsciously. We do pick up on it our brain It's called an n400 if I say have a peanut butter and jelly are my socks please your brain says wait a minute? I don't understand that when you it's cognitive dissonance isn't that kind of what what takes advantage of? What are you saying about my girl
49:27 She's imploding. Take a look at Donald Trump. Okay, finally we can go move on past Hillary because I don't like that imploding noise you're making again We heard a lot of what he's had to say let's you read the body language tell me what she said Now You know what movie they're talking about here is when he has his two hands His palms facing each other as hands stretch out and he starts moving moving the hands together.
50:30 That's why you get someone that is from the real estate industry running for president. That's why you get a man who's going to be on the front lines talking to, you know, the people coming into our border, you know, Border Patrol. He's gonna think outside the box creative thinking if he wants someone that has that strategy with creativity Donald Trump might not letting politics get into this it's just you reading the body language. Well, he may be thinking out of the box but he's an asshole. Come on! Say that! He's a big chopper? He likes the O'Ks? Let's go back to the Democrats and take a look at Bernie Sanders. You see him putting his finger... Bernie is a good one. When I talk about democratic socialism...
51:11 the and they go in on a raid, they're like on the ground Natalie! On the ground Willie right here. So he'll do this it could be like you're feeling judged by him but here's the deal is he when he's talking saying something that he does have judgment to but it's almost like he's reprimanding us here so judgment does come so someone could be like wait a minute is he the right person for president? Or is he reprimanding what he's talking about? Right
51:51 We don't know what the catalyst is. That's right, you're smart! Have you come to a class of the body language institute? I'd like to be a guest speaker again. We've had you here enough. What?! So she says hey... Who is she? She's all in for Hillary to such an extreme that she insults her at the end? That's The Today Show chick. What's your name uh do you know uh... Savannah? Savannah Guthrie yeah. That was Savannah Guthrie? Yes Wow. And, but what I like... No idea that she was that caught up in this? Well not only that but when the woman says to her co-hosts or forget his name, hey you're pretty good you should come and take one of our courses then she says no no you've been here enough already because uh yeah do you want to hear this a little bit that was quite telling Savannah's pissed
52:41 He's reprimanding us here, so judgment does come. So someone could be like wait a minute is he the right person for president? Or is he reprimanding what he's talking about? Right! We don't know what the catalyst is. That's right you're smart have you come to our class at The Body Language Institute? I'd like to be a speaker again. No we've had you hear enough. Well I have one...I really liked that as I will be reading all of Janine Driver's books I'll be sharing some of this knowledge of how to detect people. I got a kick out of this comment. This is Megyn Kelly talking casually on the, she was in the three box or something and they're all talking about the election. They had this one guy who just... Or about the last primaries. They had this one guy who hates Trump and he's going on and on about it. And in fact Fox is still kind of, I still think they're hating Trump but in fact, plus
53:51 Play this first. This is blunt, you know lunch the guy who does the focus groups? Yeah He's on and he goes to a whole line of people after that after the last The last debate that Trump was in where they were getting into the bickering And they're talking about the size of his hands and all this listen to this describe tonight's debate sophomore embarrassment disappointing shameful despicable angering Disgusting. Schoolyard brawl. Low on substance, she's right! Now if I'm in a focus group... If i saw that thing why doesn't one at least one person in this phony group say hilarious? Because that person had already worked their hours and was on a meal time penalty break so they didn't want to pay the meal the meal break for the actor