White Male Clerks

00:00 To me, it's the handshake of the devil. Lifted my head up from the secure enclave I've been studying all weekend and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas, FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm wondering why is he shouting? I'm John C. Dvorak. Because I have some very important information to convey that's why like this like what well alert the affiliates I'm clip light

00:41 Clip light today. What would the affiliates care? You're right I'm saying it for you production production, but I got plenty of clips to you wait Because a Thursday we had Democratic Town Hall we had a GOP downhaul recording the town of Downhall Downhall is good at Down all I recorded both But yeah, I was really into the Apple thing and then will talk about won't do it right now I looked at these things, it was so boring John. I couldn't bring myself to watch it did you watch any of this stuff? It's so boring! I just got a few miscellaneous things...I let other people watch it. So boring man Yeah very boring. Alright I'll tell ya something there are couple of things that struck me

01:27 One was that the Wall Street Journal, NBC, Wall Street Journal, Marist, these different polls and anything that involves a Wall Street Journal. These polls are garbage." Oh yeah this was the big one that said Cruz was ahead of Trump Well, there was that. It was the one that everyone just said oh god let me just understand so what I saw is Trump won with the magic number 33 and then it was Rubio Cruz with 22 each What happened to the poll? The poll was clearly way off well does the Wall Street Journal go back and say gee we have to go recalculate or look at what our polling is

02:10 Well, everybody wanted these polls to go that way. Let's listen to the A- this is before the election This is ABC reports on the polls and you can see what they're trying to do here Breaking developments on both sides tonight in South Carolina The Republican rumble and the new poll tonight Donald Trump at 28% but his lead not as large as before Ted Cruz closing in five points behind there Marco Rubio in third with 15 percent So they're, so what are the, you know. So Rubio's got 50. They're way off! These polls the day before the election they're not even close These polls are bogus. Yeah, and ABC and NBC both were all in on trying to indicate that Trump was fading and perhaps could lose. But now John this is NBC News in the Wall Street Journal! This cannot just... we cannot let this slip by without saying hello

03:07 Either your polling is off significantly or it's corrupt. Yes, and where is everybody on this issue? Well, you know they don't want Trump. I there's a couple of...I got a variety of disjointed clips which means i can go just about anywhere I want but this Trump thing this was the end and I think the best clip that...let me just kind of jump ahead now we'll go back to some more stuff on the polls what they're trying to accomplish but let's go jump ahead to this one clip where Karl Bernstein who's on CNN and when Bernstein, I rarely... When he comes on. He is from the famous Bernstein Woodward, The Watergate Reporters. So when he's on you listen because he seems to be... Now is he the CIA guy or was that the other one? No, Woodward's a CIA guy okay. Yeah but I'll tell you this Bernstain has all of a sudden out of the blue got the CIA white hair

04:11 And so I don't know maybe he's that's a dead giveaway. It's just it's you know what I'm talking about Yeah, the CIA white hair so What color is your hair these days John? Sorry, what color is your hair these days? It's it's it's the same goes always been sand Carl Bernstein summarizes and predicts now let's listen to this because this is I think this is right on the money exactly What's gonna happen in the Republican race but even proportional delegate you know allocation at South Carolina Donald Trump won them all he won At least 44 looks like he's gonna win 50 delegates in South Carolina everyone else gets zero

04:52 zero delegates out of South Carolina. That is a big result for Donald Trump and if he can continue anything like that, you know Nevada is Tuesday it looks like he's doing well there too And the calendar and the nature of the states ahead on Super Tuesday are a big advantage for him. I talked to a major Republican officeholder in the Bush administration, a couple hours ago and he said look you gotta look at this as Trump having a 75% chance of getting the nomination as a result of what's happened here. At the same time there is a real movement now that we're going see Trump among the so-called, it's a very loose term, establishment figures. But you still can't see absolutely how Trump gets a majority of delegates going into that convention there could be a deadlocked convention in which case you could see someone like Rubio and Kasich for instance coming together at the convention with quote establishment Republican figures trying

05:54 to keep Trump from getting the nomination, giving their delegates and votes to each other. And having a really exciting convention you could see a ticket perhaps with Rubio in Kasich some kind of different form but that we're gonna see now a huge stop Trump effort in the media, as David Gergen was saying earlier we're going to see some real serious overdue reporting on Trump. We're going to see Republican regulars at this point take out all the stops to try and halt this train because they see the destruction of the Republican Party ahead and also you know we've ended

06:36 uh... dynasty of bush tonight and i think we might see bernie sanders start to make an argument that says it's a time that we had all these dynasties including the clinton dynasty because in a way He, too is this outsider who has a chance to start a movement—he has already—that could keep going. But he's got to come up with some new angles to keep moving on what he had before his momentum was broken tonight." Hmm… So the thinking here is that the media are going to take Trump out? Is that what they're planning on?

07:14 Well, that's gonna have to be the media but it's going to be at the behest of the Republican. Yeah but thats not gonna work this is no their field anymore they're wrong I think Trump beats them in the media every time No matter what they try Well this became a...I didn't clip this whole thing because i went on with another debate cause a trump supporter one of campaign people or other, was there to argue with Bernstein saying he's been asked a lot of questions. He's done a great job with the media and manipulated them and Bernstein mentions that well he says he's talking about reporting not interviewing. He says yeah Trump is a kick-ass interview because you can't beat him but I think we're just seeing an element of that this clip here which is the Howard Stern clip

07:58 was I think the first kind of salvo trying to bust Trump on his bull crap. And this is Trump in Stern Clip I have not heard, is this Trump on Stern or is this just Stern talking? Well here it's self-explanatory. Trump now under fire for his frequent claims he is the only Republican candidate who opposed the war in Iraq! I was against the war in Iraq...I said it's going to totally destabilize the Middle East... ...and I tell the truth about Iraq and say that what was a disaster We shouldn't have done it we did it I should get points for vision because i was totally against the war in Iraq. But today, Trump confronted with this recording of a 2002 interview with Howard Stern. Are you for invading Iraq?

08:39 Yeah, I guess so. You know, I wish it was...I wish the first time it was done correctly." On the stump the candidate trying to explain and the first guy ever asked me about Iraq was Howard Stern. And I said, well yeah, I guess so then I started looking at before the war started. I was against that war! I was against that war!! I said don't go to Iraq And I said it strongly and i said it loud. But Trump's campaign unable or unwilling to produce any evidence that he was ever a vocal opponent of the war before it began See, I don't think this... That the voting public cares about these stories anymore The year of the flip-flopper? That was you know... It was three elections ago Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree to some extent but that's not the point. The point is that this was at least an example somebody digging Oh, of course! ...and that's what they haven't been doing

09:28 And digging up an old clip from 2002 is actually a lot of work. Now I suspect that somebody in Stern's office did this, pulled it up and said... It had to be Fred Probably was, I don't know. Whatever the case there will be a lot of these things cropping up now and again to kind of rattle Trump Now there's a little kicker in this that i'm not too sure about one way or the other but they say well trump can't prove it you know this is what the ABC guys are going on...Trump can't prove it! Or maybe yeah ABC And uh It's possible that Trump CAN prove it

10:08 He wants to save that I mean this would be a good political move is to actually have evidence Have something that he's bitching about this war well early on, but he's had it in his book. You know the newspaper articles He's not quite a bit of exposure about his stance at the time Well while we're on this topic. I need to read an email if you don't mind no okay from Frank Mancuso Which is a fake name? That's like a name dudes named Ben use when they using a fake account and A few things I want to clear from listening to your show. I do not like Islamists, I despise them but what about those refugees? What are you- what did they do to you? These are human beings you're talking about not animals! For someone like you that gets annoyed with waiting in line at the store which i can't remember... I would like to see when your me yeah I would like to see you and your family without food water or bathroom for six months think about that

11:02 Okay, I really liked your show a lot before you both turned into Trump ass kissing agents. I mean come on already every episode it goes on and on are you getting donations from his supporters? Trump already has a hot girlfriend that takes care of the BJ's so please take his dick out of your mouths is disgusting Okay, yeah you know I don't know. I did some people just don't listen to the show no It's not listening to the show that's that's a listing of this show it's annoying it's just you listen for Codes or something and then the codes aren't too cool Yeah But you know it's the guys in Brooklyn so he's got to be a Hillary bot everyone in Brooklyn is now a hillary yeah Hillary bot as far as I'm concerned Brooklyn does now Hillary territory

11:48 Yeah, well it should be Bernie territory But it's not can I do a little entremont before we continue the just because Jeb Bush dropped out yesterday He brought his mom to introduce him to the last event this is the guy. It's really pathetic And he was kind of heartbreaking his little good. I'm telling you I said this on the show before I don't think he wanted to job I think he just took the money yeah, he was insincere and He had no, Trump was right everything he criticized him for. He was just out there doing it because somebody told him to even though his mother said he shouldn't run Somebody told me had to run and so he obliged and that's the end of it I'm proud of the campaign that we've run to unify our country And to advocate conservative solutions That would give more Americans the opportunity to rise up and reach their God-given potential

12:41 But the people of Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina have spoken, and I really respect their decision. So tonight I am suspending my campaign. Please clap. Yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. I like that! Yeah, yeah... Of course he had the group of losers. He had most of the group. Case is just staying in. Even Ben Carson's staying in. Everyone's staying in. He got out at the first opportunity. Let's hear him cry. He had the money. I want to hear him cry. Well talking about crying. You're interrupting his crying moment! I thought it was over? No, he's about to cry He's about to cry right here. Here, that's fine Thank you very much. I'm tearing up! Poor guy

13:35 Well, if you want to see something that's even more pathetic than I think is this bit that I saw a case pool and this was played on the Today Show. And this is the case. You'll see it Casey Casey. Kasich. It's Kasich, it's Kasich! Hugging... the hugging incident Oh what is this all about then? Okay so Today Show they played this thing and they had Charlie and Nora and what's her name? That's CBS This Morning you mean not The Today Show Yes, right. Right? Sorry CBS this morning I have it today after several months of three by three gets confusing I understand so the we're talking about see The Morning Show on CBS and the three of them they were all taken aback by this whole incident Here we go

14:23 The New York Times reports on an emotional moment during a campaign stop in South Carolina for John Kasich. Brett Smith, a University of Georgia student told the candidate yesterday the Kasich campaign gave him hope. Over a year ago, uh... A man who was like my second dad he killed himself And then a few months later, my parents got a divorce. And then a few months later, my dog got run over and my dad lost his job but I was in a really dark place for a long time. I was pretty depressed but I found hope and found it in the Lord and in my friends. Now I've found it in my presidential candidate that I support and I'd really appreciate one of those hugs you've been talking about

15:13 Okay. We need to slow down because there are not enough people who are helping those who have no one celebrate their victories and we don't have enough people that sit down and cry with that young man Brett says Kasich is a uniter and thinks he can win the presidency. This is something Kasich talked about when he was here at the table. Absolutely, yes I hadn't seen it nor- And you talked about the hug as well They're really befuddled! Well that's right I mean a hug at the right time at the right place from the right person From Oprah Can be a game changer Oh yeah I haven't sent it until you sent it around yesterday and I think

16:00 That's the kind of message more people need to hear. Very touched and also to make it more than just policy, that's right It is about people and their own feelings. Wow touching why don't very genuine? Why don't you just give him the crown in the sash right now all right well You should let them talk without he stepped on the end but I'm sorry what did they say at the end no is Just as said they go on and on and on but but what's good caught my attention was just a casual remark by Charlie about the hugs. Yeah, he talked about that when he was here and then she said yeah and they kind of like agreed upon that but then one of them said we didn't get to see it and then they got to see it

16:44 This is rigged. This was like so staged, he set it up he shows up at the show and says oh yeah I like to hug people okay great And then a dude shows up... So then they have a guy come on who's damn near crying like a baby up there So these guys are all pre-selected let's face it we know this It's the way you do things In fact there's a report now that every single candidate has been hiring actors There's couple of agencies And you get paid 50 bucks to sit in the background there and be holding up the sign. Trump has done it, Clinton has done it... everyone's done it! Everyone does it of course so yeah this is and they're given scripts to speak at town halls

17:27 You know the kid is up there in tears and then Casey goes and gives him a big hug which lasts for kind of uncomfortably long. And then Casey goes up to him, he talks about it, there's nobody there to cry with this man! And it's like... Did he brush his tears away? It was just like rigged. It was like staged to an extreme and then when they played it on the CBS folks played it, and they were all oh my god that's so nice! So... To be honest about it would be kind of glib but I don't want to be too glib It was sickening. Yeah, and it was more sickening to listen to this analysis that supposed analysis we're getting from the CBS folks who didn't notice the coincidence that Kasich had said that he gives these hugs and then all of a sudden there's a hug clip. Gee!

18:16 Yeah. Does this guy think he's going to get any votes? This reminds me that we're talking about guys not gonna get votes from the average Joe, here's a clip this is the reason I would never vote for Ted Cruz in a million years By the way, I will be voting for the Libertarian candidate as usual. Is that going to be Gary Johnson? I don't know yet. They're doing a debate! There will be a debate on...I think... They do it every year. It's usually about C-SPAN and Gree. On Crackle though it'll be on Crackle. That is the part that is sickening about this process, that if you're not in one of the two big parties, Republicans or Democrats, you don't get to be on TV. And this is why there are kids growing up in our country who believe we have a two-party system. Now, this is what bothers me...here's Cruz and in South Carolina

19:15 And this is the way his speeches go. If I want to elect a preacher as the President of the United States, Hucklebee... or Huckabee if you will... Hucklebee is smarter He's sharper, he's funnier and he doesn't go off on the deep end all the time like this guy does. This guy I wouldn't vote for-I don't see how anyone could vote for him. He is wearing his religion on his sleeve. This is horrible! Who's best in the economy? Is Trump Voters here live with modern growth that is leaving some behind. There's a piece of the state that still catching up and the cut-and-sew textile plants have shut down and closed, and those jobs have gone overseas which plays right into the message that Donald Trump is delivering about trade about jobs and about China Meanwhile Ted Cruz is counting on help from the states evangelicals Father God please continue this awakening

20:15 Continue the spirit of revival. Awaken the body of Christ that we might pull back from the abyss." South Carolina is pivotal because... He's done that one before, he's already done the From The Abyss bit. This is an old bid, he just replaying old bids! I find it offensive that we might pull back from the abyss. South Carolina is pivotal because of the calendar... And what's the difference between him saying, We'll pull back from the abyss and Barack Obama saying he saved us from the abyss? It's the same thing only Obama was talking about the financial crisis and Cruz is talking about something else. ...is pivotal because of the calendar it's... There's no more on that clip. Okay leave it. Anyway so that guys

21:00 You know, I'm surprised and he should eliminate himself but he's not going to. Now there have been five or six states suing Cruz over his Canadian citizenship. Yes! And this was instigated by the Democrats as Trump predicted. As Trump predicted? That's hilarious. Let me see... Which lawsuits do you have? There are a couple of them. I don't have any of them. I think New York's one of the states. Yeah, looking at this real second... Just want to know who is really leading it? Oh there is always a lead state. It's typical lead states are New York or Connecticut. Yeah and he may have a problem we don't know

21:50 Well, I think his real problem is that he's a religious... He's just insincere. And how does this religion here? There's the question for you. How do these religious people feel about the fact that Cruz is the one that is photoshopping all kinds of false images Well, this handshake between Rubio and Obama which everybody was all up in arms about. No I haven't seen it at all. You should have followed this. It's not funny! So there is a picture of Obama and Rubio shaking hands in some implication that the two are in bed or something... well maybe literally? Yeah.

22:30 It turns out that it was Cruz's campaign, it was a smear campaign against Rubio and the photo was photoshopped. There were a couple of instances of this... How does that jive with his Christianity and do good nature? This seems not appropriate! And the funny thing about the one which I saw picture of he's got the two of them And I don't know, maybe it's subconscious. Somebody came up with this idea as a good idea Obama and Rubio are shaking hands with their right hand or left hands So its the left-hand shake Is Rubio a lefty? Well we know Obama is but if you're a lefty you dont shake that way anyway No but the reason im saying that It could be like a secret lefty handshake

23:21 To me, it's the handshake of the devil. Here it is! Marco Rubio as a lefty? Well, lefties don't do this... You do if you're in... It's subtle though... Stop stop stop wait a second how do you know that?! You don't know that! Know what? Do you not know that lefties don't have some secret handshake when they recognize each other Yeah, I do. No you're not- no you don't! You just made it up! There's no... there is no look at that see find me some documentation for this or is it that secret? Okay well it will get to the... And by the way its a photoshopped picture so it doesn't make any difference Secret left hand let I'll do lefty handshake elites illuminati okay lets see what we can see from

24:10 Uh-huh, uh-huh. It's the Scout handshake? Yes left handed handshakes. Uh huh, I think this needs some research for mob... The story of the Mob Secret Handshake? I've got to look into this. Tina is a lefty, I'll ask her. I'll ask her to let me into the club. We have a lot of lefties in the story here today Let be into the club baby Well, of course if you are in an Asian country You always shake with your left hand. You always eat with your left hand Not all asian countries been Thailand I've been all over the place that i've never seen anyone shake with their left hand they usually bow Hmm, you may be wrong on that one No, i'm not okay and besides that's the left hand to suppose it The thing is you always eat with your right hand because just your left hand you wipe your ass with

25:11 No, you do that with your right hand. You don't wipe your ass with your right hand! You do everything... no. Yes. The left-hand is the wiping the ass hand. NO! Well, you were wiping your hand with your right hand? I use the shells! Or using toilet paper like an American? I use the shells. It's not that important for now but I do think I need to look into it. Yes, you better. All right, let's go on. Let me try to wrap this thing so we get everyone caught up. So here is another example of the media bias. This is a...let's go right back to Katie Turd. Sorry. Yeah it's like you'll discoriate me for which hand I wipe my ass with but then you make a poop joke about our journalist. Good one John! A woman no less good work

26:04 This is the South Carolina, this is her report on the day before the election again promoting the idea that Trump is fading. Of course she and Trump had it out. They've had it out yeah. He insulted her in public and I don't know why she didn't take it out of the package that she produced but he insulted her She left it in the package. I don't know why but she did this was early on when he first ran and nobody was taking him seriously And he was a clown and a jerk, and yeah, and all that sort of clown car is here You know that sort of thing so let's play number one

26:39 Next Saturday, the 27th for the Democratic primary. A timeline that is ratcheting up the urgency in both races we've got both races covered let's start tonight with NBC's Katie Tershy's in North Charleston for us hi Katie good evening Lester Donald Trump has just taken this stage it's now less than 24 hours before this state votes and there are indications as you said that this race could be a lot tighter than many had previously suspected Donald Trump losing his commanding lead as Ted Cruz tries to replicate his win in Iowa. Donald Trump sounding confident to a boisterous crowd in Myrtle Beach is still on the defensive now

27:21 Okay. That end there? That's how it ended, yeah. Okay he is on the defensive. All right go to clip two of the second part because there is the element I'm looking for. A new NBC News Wall Street Journal Marist poll out today showing his lead slash... Every time they do a poll I have a lousy poll! One potential reason Trump's accusation during the debate that George W Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction sources within the campaign told NBC news trump has been warned to ease off off, both by advisors and even phone bank volunteers who were hearing negative reaction from voters about his attacks on George W. Bush. Cruz in second punching up and down mocking Trump with his own words. It's easy to say let's make America great again. He didn't even print that out of a baseball cap!

28:13 But the question to ask is do you understand what made America great in the first place? And again, linking Marco Rubio to President Obama in a new ad. Marco Rubio burned us once Trump gives Christians a bad name This guy's creepy He yells, he screams, he's overly fanatic Yeah, and then he's over-modulating to such an extreme that even the NBC experts can't... they have to use that clip? Yeah. They had subtitles captions I'm sure. Well, I got a little bit of news on the election tip so i got a note from one of the millennials who is now trained to be on the lookout for stuff within the millennial sphere you know

29:07 Here's what I got. There is a big movement preparing people for Bernie's loss and people saying that you need to vote for H And, uh...I'm training her To be on because i said well this is very interesting and I actually sent this clip from about the play And she said wow! Well actually I'll tell you what she said after after the fact here is Hillary and so again as I go down this list of messages says Here we go. Big Moon preparing people for Bernie's loss, people saying you need to vote for Hillary because Bernie's numbers don't add up that is the quote that I got and then i hear this clip Senator Sanders said that he would raise taxes on any family that made 250 000 and above Is that your level? 250 000 Well I've said I will not raise taxes on anybody 250 or below but here's the problem with senator Sanders plan his numbers don't add up there is no way for him

30:07 to fulfill the promises he's making without raising taxes on the middle class. So this is the talking point, and I had to explain it because she came back and said in this text message well i guess Hillary was listening uh no now that's the other way around This is the Hillary camp planting shit into your little college network of communications This is what they do! This is how everyone does it And it's sad that that is not recognized. It is exactly the same... It's recognized by the people who listen to our show The people who don't listen to our show? No, I said anyone who listens to our show recognizes these talking points as they emerge Exactly But then Hillary made a big cock up on CBS

30:56 And you have to look at the video, you've probably seen it. To see her face when she realizes what she's done which strangely enough makes her actually really likeable and human even though the reason why she has become human for a second is that she realized that she messed up when she said this. You know in 76 Jimmy Carter famously said I will not lie to you Well, I have to tell you. I have tried in every way I know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as Secretary of State to level with the American people You talk about leveling with the American people Have you always told the truth? I've always tried too Always

31:39 Some people are gonna call that wiggle room. Now you can see your eyes going, oh crap! You just gave yourself all this always tried to do. No I've always tried to- Jimmy Carter said I will never lie to you. You know you're asking me to say have i ever? I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I'm gonna do the best I can to level with the American people. I didn't...the cookies..I didn't take them it's not me She sounds like a little kid. Dad but that's bad That's worse than the then the barking as far as I'm concerned. Well she also had, what i thought was a bad play when she was in doing the caucusing floating around Nevada and and she had a big crowd that actually She pretty much had the crowd in her grasp And then she kind of... The crowd turned on her! Yeah I saw this, I know which clip it is

32:33 Morrow's caucus senator Sanders wasn't really a Democrat until he decided to run for president Wow true, you know what was he then? What was it is an independent? Oh Oh, okay. When he was in the Senate... He was one of the parties and then he turned independent so he can get on better committees. Yeah right right right And then he stayed independent and ran as an independent but he's always been a socialist Democrat. He is a socialist! Does anyone doubt his credentials? Is this a democrat if he wants to be a democrat call himself a democrat? There's a uh... But counter that by we have to play The Bernie Clip

33:20 This is Bernie's kind of humorous and this is the thing that he got. He has to do more of this sort of thing because he almost like a stand up comic when he does his story tell, this is Bernie tells anecdote, it was similar meeting. Sanders drawing laughter after this. Gloria Steinem everybody knows Gloria is one of leading feminists in America made me an honorary woman many many years ago I don't know exactly what that meant but I accepted it. Uh, okay. Hold on hold on what do I have here? Made me an honorary woman Yeah that's pretty sad Um Here i have uh After Susan Sarandon's you know beautiful intro to Bernie Sanders Unsold and pure And we now have the opportunity to make that man our choice for the president of the United States Just wanted to hear it again

34:24 And he's right, you know. Change is difficult and what this man is asking of us is to be the machine now I give you Bernie Sanders Who should line her up with that kid that was at the Kasich meeting? Yeah she needs a hug but Dick Van Dyke was on the Chris Matthew show First of all, Dick Van Dyke looks great. He's 90. Yeah he looks you know 60 I gotta know what his secret is a guy looks fantastic and he weighed in on the on the socialist thing which i thought had interesting perspective just dick van dyke you know over all kinds of things that he's a douchebag but you got to like him this for...I don't know..i like him Mr. Van Dyke what made you come out come out not come out the other way but come out

35:16 Come out so much for Bernie Sanders. And I loved the little flub there, what made you come out for Hillary? What's in the script? Bernie Sanders! Come out so much for Bernie Sanders. Well haven't campaigned since Eugene McCarthy, so you know how political i am but I'm 90 years old so I like to give a hand to young aspiring politicians like Bernie No, Bernie has lit a fire that's been lit a lot of times over the last hundred years but always got sidelined or squelched. But somehow Bernie has caught the eye and mind of young people and I think this time it is going to happen we've gotta put him in the White House He is... he's a New Deal Democrat! I was there back in the 30's and 40's

36:07 Bernie is a New Deal Democrat. So you don't think much of his self-description as a socialist, democratic socialist that means to you just liberal democrat? I don't think young people are bothered so much by that word socialism. Yeah, I agree. It used to be classed along with communist and Nazi and fascists but socialism has a whole different connotation now thanks to countries like Sweden Sweden? I don't...he must be banging some hot Swedish chick up there. I don't know why he got that all of a sudden, but there is something that needs to be discussed briefly that whenever this topic of Bernie and democratic socialist or socialism or anything comes up, I keep reading everywhere will social security is a social program? How do you like socialism?

37:02 I think, I need to disagree that Social Security is a socialist program. It's if anything it's a capitalist program or am i completely off base here? I would think you're off base but you could probably make the argument...I think it's an argument that could be made now isn't just deferred payment and then you know you put money in you never get out what you put into it but its deferred payment it's like a saving program so your forced insurance yeah it is insurance But, uh... I don't— Well the socialist system requires you to put a lot of money into systems too. Let me finish! Socialism means the government controls production, the government controls distribution. That's communism. Uh okay then there is—I can't refute. Okay well then work on it but i think it's a debate that I'd love to have

37:58 Some day in the future. So you're saying Social Security is socialism? No, it would be that way if everyone got the same social security The same amount no it's just still socialism It's just not perfect yeah but Medicare for sure You don't pay for Medicare well you do you pay a token amount out of Social Security And you get a token amount back that sounds about right Yeah I get a token back I'm not going to argue, i am going to look into it. It's what he self described and its not a big deal and nobody really cares. I think you hit the nail on the head or somebody did either you or JC one of them

38:40 I think you did on a show about three shows ago, but some of he'd say too. Which is the only reason people or the kids are all in on free school. And I knew that Hillary would... Once she won, I knew that she would start weaseling into Bernie's territory now. She's a little flake. She's not saying free school but now she's saying we have to make it so that you don't pay any more than you can afford which is kind of what it supposed to be today which is not Well, I'm assuming that she's got the same approach that Bill Clinton had. Stop for one second John. Chat room... This is a conversation! We talk about stuff okay? This isn't- The chatroom is complaining. He still uninformed you don't know what you're doing he said you know what fuck you I'm out goodbye idiots

39:29 I can't stand it. You can't say anything without people... This is what the whole world is like this, everyone's so boh we're so much better than everybody else Can't even bring up a conversation Anyway let's continue this thing uh where was I? I don't know but I- You interrupted me and now I lost my train of thought because of the chat room! I had a profound thing to say About socialism No, but the kid no about the Clintons. Okay a socialism got it you're back the Clinton's steal ideas Oh Yeah Of course anything that works they would take well You know their Republican ideas and call them their own and I'm surprised that Hillary hasn't taken all of Bernie's ideas And just said yeah Good idea. I'm all in on it free education for everybody now if that would be great That's what she needs to do. That's all that counts

40:23 If she can come up with a way of saying free without it actually being free that would work, too well You know it would be free to do Obama's thing just promise a bunch of crap before you get elected never execute any Of it I got a lot of email by the way about this This first of all. I hope you saw the animated gif of Hillary choking on the bong when she's coughing like this I sent that one to you. I saw the gif, but i didn't see the animated version. That's great! So...I was thinking about this And I got a lot of interesting emails. One is, and we have doctors plenty of doctors listen to the show this her symptoms of what she displayed on stage Of course it could have just been you know very bad cold but i got several I have several doctors some veterinarians too saying that's as he has possibly COPD or even worse chronic heart failure

41:23 And this is exactly the type of symptom you'd see. Chronic bronchitis, emphysema... The airways that extend from the trachea into the lungs become irritated and emphysema occurs when serious damage is done to the tiny air sacs. And someone else said she might have a whooping cough or barnyard cough? Oh yeah there's a barnyard cough it's got a name I can't remember what it is. And she's been floating around Iowa, you can get it there. It's a swine flu. She's going to have meetings in Barnes. You got the swine flu is what you got. But what surprised me here was a 69 year old woman

42:07 And she's hacking her lungs up on stage. As I was listening back to the show, why? Was there not a single person who gives a shit about this woman and says hey Hillary are you okay come up on stage Hey let's just give her a second no none of that is everyone afraid what is going on then either everybody hates her like oh good I can't wait until she'll drop dead hack up along and die it's what it seems like There's gotta be RNC reps, there's got to... but where is Uma? Yeah. Uma should have rushed up there with a glass of water or something! Yes her body man yeah exactly No we've seen this before people you know they're coughing I mentioned it on another show which is the guys tearing up up there and nobody brings them a tissue

42:56 Or a guy, no it's a guy sniveling. He has his you know and he's got to wipe his hand over his nose because he's got... where is somebody with the tissue? Exactly. I mean you're up on stage with a bunch of...I know one thing that does happen when you do it, and I've noticed this A lot of people are afraid to rush up on the stage. I was just about to say this is still some very strange leftover remnant People having respect for live television which of course it's completely unnecessary Oh its on television? Oh no we're on television. You think your right! That may be that too. It's very old school. People are afraid to do that because maybe they would be scolded

43:38 I have no idea, but it's bizarre. It's bizarre and it's rude! Yeah, I've seen it over and over and I'm seeing more of it... Where is the tissue? Where's a cup of water?! What does it take to give a guy some water!? And I really don't care too much about Hillary Clinton but just from a human being perspective you know come on people. Strange she's not beloved inside her own camp I think she's mean. Here is another thing that gets me, we hear about her being mean and she hates the Secret Service and she berates people and she gets all worked up where is the video? Where is a audio tape of this? Are we saving it for the election? Wait a minute, videotape of what? Of Hillary blowing up!

44:29 Yeah, it may not be there. I don't know It has to be she's surrounded by people constantly There's got to be somebody with a pair of glasses that records everything or somebody with their phone recorder turned on I mean There's no way you can get away with being a complete jerk Which is what they describe her as especially the Secret Service people without having some evidence in this hmm Now she bet she runs a tight ship though and i'm pretty sure stuff doesn't leak out easily from her camp Anyway, so there's another debate tonight. No it's just a town hall tonight isn't there another debate on Tuesday? It's annoying! It has become unfun we need you know...we need to do something I mean even the Supreme Court thing is kind of falling off the radar Yeah i agree Although I did catch this Jeffery Before you go off topic I want us to stay on this for one more clip Sure Maybe two

45:30 But this was a clip, I just only want to play this clip because to remind us both and the audience of very important fact that has cropped up because of this election. This is a very short clip where they did on CNN are discussing how Bush just quit bailed out And this is the Bush quit and there's a comment on the 150, but just a casual comment was made. Bush as well, very bad night for him The end of a long road for Governor Bush Athena thank you so much $150 million if you add to pack up The definition of a war chest Unbelievable amount of money spent For a campaign that really never got off the ground What happens next all that where was it 7.8% in South Carolina Where does that support move?

46:17 Okay, the reminder is 100 citizens United Koch brothers. Oh these guys are gonna buy all the elections This guy had a hundred and fifty million dollars right from the get-go. He had 40 million in one chest, he had a pack—a huge super pack—spent all this money got nowhere So where is that argument that we're gonna continue to hear on Democracy Now! and everyplace else about Citizens United? Well now we have three examples We have Donald Trump self financed, we have Bernie Sanders although he's not entirely truthful because he does have a pack at least one The Nurses Union

46:55 giving him millions of dollars. And exactly as you say, all this money went into Bush where is it? Where's the results? It's not true at least not this election cycle and in general I call it Moneyball but I'm not going to do that anymore it probably kind of the wrong analogy But all I... it's so cynical. The news media is just blatantly saying, well if you have money then you win! If you have money then you win oh you got this money they've got money why do you think they say that? Because the money is going to them Exactly That's how you win The whole Citizens United scam is all about the media And its crazy that.. It's so blatantly So in your face and so obvious how this works Yeah yeah well

47:43 It'll take a billion dollars. Whoever's gonna win, it'll take a billion. It always does! Well... we'll see I just have the one last clip Okay And this is the clip which i thought was interesting One of the more entertaining clips Actually there are two clips One was a woman There's a woman that talked about the pollings and I thought this is just a clip to scold people and this is where's the polling? Poll watch? Poll watching? Pole sitting poll sitting, poll watching and who to vote for. Yeah that would play this.

48:32 that it's probably gonna be between Trump and Cruz. I was really liking Ben Carson but poll wise, I don't really think he's going to do so well any longer. So you're influenced by the polls? You may not vote for him... Right! I think it may be a wasted vote may go elsewhere. I can't help it, I'm looking at who has the best chance of winning? Yeah exactly this is what it is who has the best chance my vote won't count but it has become so cynical so cynical! This is pathetic this is not the way you're supposed to vote but also somehow just these people sounded like they were under 30

49:09 They're all 30-ish. The polls have become like this, you know just like big data...like it's fact! Like 97% of all scientists agree. You know it's just become one...oh well the poll must be right whereas we know the polls are only probably what what the NBC News Wall Street Journal polls was about was getting some of that cruise cash Yeah, before while he's still in the race. Trying to get some of that cash out of him It's so cynical it really is very cynical Well I feel it just that people should know that you vote for who you think You want to be there even though? He said long shot yeah Of course That way you make yourself that makes a clear with the people analyze the votes and so what a lot of people like this guy

49:56 Yeah, if you get that kind of analysis. You're not hired to be a strategist. It's above your pay grade of no pay. Let me strategize this out well. If I vote for him it won't be a vote lost and I think he has a better chance at beating so-and-so and all that sort of thing. You just vote for who you're supposed to vote...who you feel like voting for. You don't strategize your votes? And part of the...I'm calling in a distraction because we know that nothing is really final until we have the nominees from the conventions But the super delegates left and right, and Debbie Wasserman knick-knocked shows up. And she explains it again and again, and explains it to Rachel... She's just nauseating. So Scalia's funeral was over the weekend. The president did not attend which is oh boy everyone's so horrible he didn't attend whatever don't care what was really offensive with Jeffrey Toobin who

50:56 He's kind of the go-to lawyer. I guess for CNN he's one of them either douche and so they're doing live play by play of Scalia's Funeral life played yeah, yeah live play by plays coming up to the green well It's even more listen to what this is listen to listen to what this a whole says so the guy's dead You know he's heralded by a large percentage of The country As you know, a great guy. The other half hates him wanted him dead apparently mainly Democrats are quite vocal on Facebook and even stuff like more Republicans should go to Texas and stuff like that

51:39 It was really quite low. But listen how far Tubin went... So you see all these clerks are standing outside, kind of like an honor guard for the for the justice. He was President George W Bush's solicitor general, Jeffrey Sutton another prominent judge on the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals is there Paul Cappuccio who was the General Counsel to our parent company Time Warner is in that group I think you have to say as you can look an overwhelmingly white male group Justice Scalia

52:21 Almost all of his clerks were white men, as you can see in that group. Why didn't you say he was a racist? Or, you know... hated women, hated blacks, hated browns He's just a horrible A-hole That's unbelievable! The guy is at his funeral As you can see, he was a racist Yeah, nothing but young white boys. Maybe he was a homo. I don't know Jeffrey tube and went in a hole believable that it's just really good catch and no one pushes back

52:57 Nobody pushes back on anything. Imagine oh, there's John C Dvorak yes He was great as you can see he mainly has white male friends Yes were so yeah, yeah Lots of wrong with him Yeah What is wrong with him? Well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and passion send you love and light and say in the morning to you John C C stands for Caucasian Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water day and all the names of knights out there hey in the morning too everybody oh no I don't say that they're in purgatory chat room purgatory no chat room thanks today thank you to our artists we had Hassan Maynard who brought the artwork for episode number 800

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1:13:02 She was all gung-ho. You recall she organized the tour, the last tour we did? Oh yes right! The complex tour. The complex tour. Yeah you went up and down... And she said hey I will be more than happy more than happy to do anything you need to get your campaign going but i've really done some research and it turns out yes I could have my 500 signatures if I wanted one for Congress in the 21st district of Texas However, you need to file your intent by December 14th of the previous year. So we're gonna have to wait two years. I know i'm pissed off! I was so sure it didn't have to- that wasn't a requirement but it is... I know now I'm disappointed too very yeah this is bullcrap You had to file an intent like over a year in advance Yeah December 14 2015 yeah yeah now I'm disappointed

1:14:00 Because there were people showing up who wanted to get signatures and well, it's okay if we're still around God willing then we can always do it for the 2018 cycle 2018 my god Who couldn't even think that far? I'll be after the depression so you can get probably a lot of Support then yeah all right Do you want to talk about this Apple thing because I did a lot of a lot of work Yeah might as well Trump wants to boycott Apple. Yeah, so there's a couple things going on here and one thing really struck me. It took me awhile to kind of figure it out because what is really odd about... There are a couple things that are odd with this scenario The first one is the very strongly worded public statement from Tom Collins Cook Tim thing which really insinuated that the government wants to put a backdoor on the iPhone

1:15:00 which is technically, we know now from the court documents and I can see now that you know finally Ars Technica, Eb Slash Dot and you know some people with some actual technical skills came in and said hold on a second this is not exactly what is being asked of Apple. They're being asked to do something else And... So I spent a lot of time conversing with dudes named Ben looking at another small anomaly which popped up about the iPhone in question belonging to the dead San Bernardino shooter, that a password reset had been requested. And so there's some annoying things about that as well. But the first thing what I really realized is that... and Tim, and I'm going to say Tim Cook—a guy like that doesn't make a public statement unless it's for the company. You said maybe he just lost his cool? I don't think so

1:15:57 And companies like... Did I say that? You said he probably lost his cool and didn't check or something. Yeah, it was an odd note, an odd letter but Apple you know companies like Apple these multi-billion dollar companies they only do things for one reason and one reason only is for the health of the company so yeah you may think he's a big patriot i'm not so sure He's doing stuff for the company And what I realize is you're really going into this country so patriotic they bring that money back into the country They have like trillions overseas. Well if Exactly what? I really expected this were an Ayn Rand novel You know then we did we'd see Tim Cook close and it was a company in yeah, close the company and disappear Yeah, and go live in the grand can in the Gulch. Yeah engulfed gulch now

1:16:45 Just briefly from the technical standpoint, what is actually being asked is not a circumvention of encryption. And what I'm seeing with Tim Cook's message... ...is he is obfuscating intentionally or not, obfuscating the obvious security hole that Apple has created by default in its systems and that is the passcode So when you have an iPhone And I believe it is still standard to have a four numeric digit passcode to get into it. Two things happen when you enter the correct passcode, and this happens in the so-called secure enclave which is hardcoded into the chip and there's a lot of cool stuff they've done there

1:17:32 And it's kind of like if you have... so just presume everything on your iPhone is encrypted and it has a big master key and a big lock that you have to have the right key, insert that and then you can turn it. But the passcode that Apple has implemented which also is a part of crypto technology is extremely weak And it is intended to turn the big key. There's two different secure enclaves and different things happen, that's how you can or cannot load software do certain things but having a four digit passcode which is very convenient for people Is inherently insecure because it only takes about 10 thousand guesses to figure out what your passcode is

1:18:19 And Apple, of course knows this and they did two things. This is the part that I didn't realize you can customize your passcode onto your phone with six digits You can have any random number of digits or you could have a complete alphanumeric string as long as you want it to be The longer it is... crypto things you can do, certain characters and that will take longer for brute force cracking to take place. So Apple realizing that they really don't have a secure environment because once you can go in and start hacking again, basically using brute force crack which is the same thing that would happen if the FBI or NSA had one of your emails and you had it encrypted. If they really wanted to find out what it was, they would have to go into a brute force crack mode and it takes time to do that

1:19:15 But what Apple did, and then went off and claimed are we can't do anything. It's your data We have nothing to do with it you know with it's your secure. We're all good Because the four-digit passcode is so inherently insecure They built in a number of tries You can have which is 10 before the device erases itself if you have that setting on oh and with each attempt, they build in a time delay. So the first second third times you enter the wrong passcode then you get a one minute delay The next time is a five-minute delay Then you get an hour delay and before we know it there's really long delays because it keeps warning you if you do this two more Times you'll be at ten We're gonna have to Erase all the data on the device so what Apple is really saying Is they don't want the FBI

1:20:09 to force them to disable, not cryptology but to disable these little steps that they've kind of thrown in front of you if you want to go and brute-force this device. Whereas really the...and so now we're into it's privacy versus security? No! It is convenience that Apple is giving you. Because of course if your phone is locked and you have to enter 256 characters to unlock it, no one wants to do that! But that would actually be secure and you wouldn't really even need these little delays that are built into the iPhone's access into the secure system So this brings up two main points One

1:20:56 Why is Apple saying that this is weakening their encryption? Because it's not. The passcode entry, it's a hurdle... But it's not a cryptology hurdle. It is not... They have a backdoor, they have a huge gaping hole right there which anyone if you want your iPhone to be secure whether or not they have a delay in it whether or not they have erase functions are not You need much larger passcode, passphrase In order to have the cryptography work to any degree So when I hear Tim Cook and when i read what he's saying, and in fact I'm going to play a clip just to break up my own monotonous tone. He's even using the gay card! To slam the government on this People have entrusted us with their most personal and precious information We owe them nothing less than the best protections that we can possibly provide

1:21:56 By harnessing the technology at our disposal and working together as businesses, governments and citizens we believe we can bring about a future that fully embraces both privacy and security. Which in recent memory he said well we don't have to choose it shouldn't be that choice now he's saying we need that choice and here is his example We must get this right History has shown us that sacrificing our right to privacy can have dire consequences. We still live in a world where all people are not treated equally, too many people do not feel free to practice their religion or express their opinion or love who they choose. Say it again! Or love who they choose. We got it

1:23:05 A world in which that information... Did he say it twice? ...can make the difference. Yes, he did! Between life and death So what he's saying is that in countries around the world if you're gay That's what he- That is the code he used then that could mean life or death based upon your iPhone Yeah Nigeria This is heady stuff right now My iPhone could get me killed But to say that the government wants a backdoor is specious. They have a sh- they, it's pretty much a hack and I do not see well i see what from his vantage point understand why he's pissed off but I do not see how if we're not if you stand up there and say we can't touch your information

1:23:51 But really the only reason why you can't do that is because we give you convenience of four passcode digits, and therefore we've built in all this delays and stuff. I think the court is right to force Apple to remove their walls because it's not cryptography It's removing... And a lot of people, most people disagree with what I'm saying but I want To make the point clear that this is not a cryptography issue. It is Apple saying, you need to be safe here's what we've implemented and we shouldn't be forced to crack that they're pretty much just a system that is flawed. So that's Occam's razor. That's the real simple stuff John. And then Komi of course who was in New York with his other buddy Cyrus Vance who remember him he's the state's attorney

1:24:41 They used to work together. They're the guys that, as you have pointed out many times put Martha Stewart in jail... they have a hundred and seventy-five iPhones ready to be ready to brute force once Apple lets, disables this kind of shoddy gates and hurdles they have to jump over And they've been waiting for the right case for a long time In fact, here is Rand Paul. We don't play many clips from him but he gave us a little insight into the timing of this event again this is the Occam's Razor theory These are people who have a history of not being honest in fact one of them The General Counsel, the legal counsel for the NSA He said this about six months ago and they have his email The Washington Post found this He said that we just need to wait till someone dies And then we'll use that uh...to get what we want Now

1:25:35 That brings me into some anomalies in the story. We've learned now that not only did some unnamed employee... And it's a little sketchy where there was the FBI itself or the FBI asked said unnamed employee to reset the passcode on the device. Because of this, the device if it was enabled could no longer provide an automatic backup now This resetting of the password was done according to the court documents quote remotely and couple of our producers helped out and we found out that the San Bernardino Department of Health

1:26:14 which is who were the owner of phone they own the phone. They had an MDM tool, mobile device management tool which specifically allows you to clear passcodes reset passcodes do anything you want as if your right on the phone itself So was this issued through the MDM? Was this issued through iCloud? I would say, in case number one that if FBI really wanted to go after Apple and find the right case where somebody died Then if they had left this phone alone, there's a probability they may have received the most recent backup which pretty much include everything you need because there were backups created previously. Then you just take it into a secure network that it knows or no network and starts automatically backing up. It is possible that they said oh crap we can't have that let's brick it so then we can go after Apple and I don't put it past Comey at all. I think that's completely... Alright let me try to summarize what you said And there's another one yeah

1:27:18 You had an explanation for the simplicity. I think that was too long, I think the key here was the idea and let me tell you if i'm wrong The FBI's got a bunch of phones And they haven't had really the rationale or the wherewithal or the ability to get this trick that you're trying, that we're going to defeat this system. Not encryption but the hurdles? Right! No... The stalling system. Yeah. The system to keep you from trying 10 times and I always recommend if anyone has someone with an iPhone just pop in about 11 passwords. Can i just say give me one little data point there the reason why you want to do that is because of how Apple's encryption works

1:27:58 Every single passcode, whether it's a huge passphrase or four digits... It takes about 80 milliseconds for the software internally to decrypt that. So that is an inherent...that is something they can't change. That is an inherent delay, meaning if you have a passcode of 11 digits it could take up to 250 years at that speed to crack. Okay, but that's not really where I'm going. It's important to know! And it's a nice little thing to know, I guess. It's about timing. It's about how fast can something be cracked? Let's go back to what I think is at play here

1:28:38 They've got a bunch of phones that need to be decrypted and they haven't had the real, the leverage that they need to get this trick, this Apple thing, this Apple patch. Right To get rid of the little barrier there Yeah they needed So now they got a terrorist Yes correct so they can play it up as a publicity stunt They don't give a shit about anything on that phone because there's nothing on the phone Probably right And because it's a health department phone anyway. But then now once they get this little trick that to get the bypasses... Once they bricked it, once they bricked the phone Well brick or not brick is beside the point They're trying to get something on some specific phone

1:29:15 that they have in that pile you're talking about, the pile of 175 phones. There's a phone in there and there are a bunch of phones but they want to open them all up but there is one in particular and thats what this is all about it would be kinda cool to know what phone is out there that they need to really look at yeah this we don't know I bet you if you looked in enough newspaper, or you'd find some situation that they tried. I'm sure Apple knows what it is because they probably hounded them and now but now they've got this terrorist thing so the they're leveraging terrorism once again

1:29:52 Once again, to exploit something that's got nothing to do with terrorism. This is like setting up shop at the TSA and saying oh we're only about terrorism and then they bust a bunch of guys who are carrying marijuana this happened to John Perry Barlow And you know he had a little thing in marijuana and then next thing you know he was talking to the police well I thought it was about terrorism You putting this stuff for terrorists? Stop terrorism No it has nothing to do with terrorism So now there were just as Essentially a scam, but it's a good one. It's really good. Really good one what I find interesting in the discourse about this is when it comes to terrorists and guns and the Second Amendment everybody's like

1:30:30 Wow man, second amendment it's a living document. We had muskets back then this you know it's a living document should change you know we have to not everyone should have a gun we have to stop crazy people from having guns when it comes to apple and your iphone and the fourth and or fifth amendment everybody's like no that's not that's unconstitutional! You can't do that! Do you see the hypocrisy in this? Well there's... Hypocrisy is... It's inconsistency it's not hypocrisy. There's another thing now, and if you get into the San Bernardino shooting itself which we have... I went back and listened to what we discussed. There's a lot of loose ends. There were two black SUVs, there was three hours where someone was missing, there are witnesses saying there were three white guys in camos... A lot of stuff went wrong! What if the- and this is just a crackpot scenario- what if the following happened? We know that the FBI is always setting up people so they we're setting up these two crazies who for some reason decided that the people they had not only emailed because the FBI does have that not only emailed their colleagues but they had a baby shower

1:31:33 And then they decided to go kill them all. So I think one of our, or I know one of our theses was this was an FBI op but something happened and then this couple they got triggered activated something happened so what if the triggering happened by some other group other than the FBI? And the FBI wants to know who the hell Was involved in messing and busting up their op basically it could be I like that actually I don't think it's that crackpot That was that would

1:32:12 Besides the obvious, that would also explain... Now this is something the FBI would be able to discuss. They're not going to come out and say that! We had these guys set up to do a murder but then they got triggered and they shot their buddies. We'd like to know who did that? We don't like people messing with our ops. Something very very wrong with that I don't think we're gonna hear of press conference like that ever But from a strictly legal perspective, which is where this is going to come down to. I think Apple's in the wrong here and they're trying to cover it up with the government evil and for Tim Cook to come out... And he placed a huge distrust in the government, huge! Which isn't you know? That's fine. He has got reason to do that. They are always hassling him.

1:33:06 The trade-off is convenience. Well, what you're saying is that this is bogus. It's not there... John, how many times has Cook stood there and said your shit safe with Apple? You're safe but it isn't. It's not safe! He messed up. Apple messed up they I think the FBI go back and you listen to the words Comey's using data at rest, data in transit. Yeah we don't really want a back door or sliding door any kind of door no they already knew what they wanted from Apple they knew this for awhile and they were waiting for this particular instance I think Rand Paul may be correct that they just wanted to find something was so big that they could you know turn this around either to get one those 175 phones but for me just the bottom line Apple fucked up

1:33:52 They're wrong. They should have said, you want to be completely secure? Then you need to unlock your phone every single time with 256 characters or something of that nature and they have the capability built in it's a little little option says you know passcode options You can change it we don't see discussed anywhere And I only found because I was looking to see how wait a minute How can you do more passcodes for new more digits but they had if you pushed it up there too during need 256 when you could you know, 50-40. A long sentence... And they can remove their entire hurdles—their waiting hurdles—as long as people know look if you have to use an appropriate passcode otherwise you're just not secure but they kind of hoodwinked everybody and it turns out their little hack, their little trick was not all that great because unless now the court decides —and that would be interesting—that using uh that the method

1:34:51 of, well maybe it would be the type of key or... I don't see how they can connect their system to cryptography. That's what you know there not being asked for secret keys are being asked to remove some barriers if you built a warehouse and had it locked up in triple cement and got all kinds of steel around it and something inside and the court wants that you have to open it up! You can say we can't because you can Well, that's a good one. Okay! That'll keep people caught up. It will be interesting to see how this finishes but it probably will finish with them having to do something like what you described. I'm quite sure but you know Cook is gonna... and also one other thing. I only said the Ayn Rand comment was only kind of half jokingly What choices does cook at this point after that statement have? I only won as far as i'm concerned

1:35:50 And he's been wanting to do this for a while, I'll bet. He wants to resign. Quit? He'll quit yeah! I think he'll quit over this and he's probably been wanting to quit...he can't grow this company any bigger with this. No, he said that David Lager is heavier Yeah, he's at the apex then you have China and there are lots of rumors that Apple let them do a security audit so they know something and they know some capabilities possibilities maybe Apple look Apple was giving away exact digital copies of people's phones to the Feds up until iOS 8 And then they put in this little hurdle and the feds went, well that's not a real hurdle. And so now they have their reason to take it to court

1:36:26 And maybe that error code, the Error 53 might even have something to do with it. It's coincidental that crops up all part of the secure enclave and all this stuff... And also, that is a part of Apple's convenience! Hey you don't want to input 256 characters? Great then you can just use your thumbprint What I would say if i was Tim Cook but I would say here's what you can do You keep your phone on immediate lock You can request and make sure that you cannot use the thumbprint, or you could say... Use your thumbprint for your huge 256 character passcode. And if you want to be secure shut the phone down because when the phone reboots you cannot use your thumbprint, you have to use the code So that's safe computing but I'm gonna put it in a book. I'm saying he resigns over this Well that's a pretty bold prediction He wants out anyway

1:37:25 That's why he makes this big statement. He's putting his reputation on the line! What other evidence do you have that he wants out? I have no evidence, but it's just a feeling. But the evidence is he can't build the company any bigger. You know that the stock keeps sliding slowly. Eddie Q was standing right behind him going let me in Buffalo. Yeah, he's probably making it miserable. Yeah, I know this type of office politics you have to one guy who wants to take over and all he does his bad mouthy behind your back and keep saying different things just could slowly eats away at the confidence of other employees. Very common way to do it right?

1:38:01 Now Trump has become unelectable on his stance, not in his ultimate opinion but on the stand because he's not taking this issue seriously. That's an offense. He says, ah, fuck it Apple should do this." Make him unelectable or someone you don't think should be elected is what you're really saying. I'm just using this Democrat channel. He said plenty of stupid stuff that is just like, what? He's on for the torture thing! You gotta do more than torture these people it's not good. No. The only thing that's positive about Trump in my mind is he's kind of pro-Russia

1:37:25 That's why he makes this big statement. He's putting his reputation on the line! What other evidence do you have that he wants out? I have no evidence, but it's just a feeling. But the evidence is he can't build the company any bigger. You know that the stock keeps sliding slowly. Eddie Q was standing right behind him going let me in Buffalo. Yeah, he's probably making it miserable. Yeah, I know this type of office politics you have to one guy who wants to take over and all he does his bad mouthy behind your back and keep saying different things just could slowly eats away at the confidence of other employees. Very common way to do it right?

1:38:01 Now Trump has become unelectable on his stance, not in his ultimate opinion but on the stand because he's not taking this issue seriously. That's an offense. He says, ah, fuck it Apple should do this." Make him unelectable or someone you don't think should be elected is what you're really saying. I'm just using this Democrat channel. He said plenty of stupid stuff that is just like, what? He's on for the torture thing! You gotta do more than torture these people it's not good. No. The only thing that's positive about Trump in my mind is he's kind of pro-Russia

1:38:45 And this Russian thing is completely out of control. Oh man, no kidding! It's not going to get any better as long as they let the Kagans run things Yeah and Turkey is now... Actually I got to- we're moving away from Apple right? We're done with iPhone. Yeah we're done with Apple Ashton Carter our new Secretary of Defense who of course a guy who was just a douche not trustworthy, he did an interview with Charlie Rose. Did not talk about his sexuality and his DNA but did tell us what is going to be happening in the next few years with our deployments overseas? You know for 25 years Charlie I came up in this business during the Cold War and so I remember... you've been dealing with Russians for a long time...for very long time and after the Soviet Union ended

1:39:36 There was a long period of time when in the Department of Defense thinking about Russia as a competitor Was not something that we had to do and now since what happened in Ukraine A year and a half ago It's quite clear that at least as long as Vladimir Putin is running the country it has the intentions he says he has, we are going to have a competitor in Russia. That is meant for us in defense and for the Europeans and for NATO having to create a new playbook

1:40:18 that we haven't had for a quarter century, which is one of territorial defense deterrence against aggression of Russia into Europe. Not just by traditional means but also by what is called hybrid warfare but as the little green men kind of phenomenon and you know I regret... How do we meet the challenge of little green men? I thought that was interesting they're using this metaphor of little green men Which, what he means by that is you know the so-called real Russian soldiers who were in Ukraine although there's enough evidence it was probably Blackwater or something. But Rose just goes back and says they're little green men? I mean... What was it infantile I guess how they talk about that. No, I regret the problem How did we meet the challenge of little green men

1:41:14 Two ways. First of all, you help these societies to harden themselves the ones that are particularly affected by it that means in terms of their border controls intelligence sharing cyber protection protection critical infrastructure and so forth so that they are not as easily subverted as Ukraine two years ago and secondly its by stiffening NATO response. We're doing that, we this budget which were submitting now quadruples our spending on European presence and posture we're putting in heavy equipment into Eastern Europe

1:42:00 We are putting forces in now, not on a permanent basis but on a persistent rotational basis. There will be a lot more American troops in Europe in coming years than there were in past years so we're doing a lot and sadly Russian conduct in Europe and elsewhere makes that necessary Persistent rotational basis is code for lots of people, but new faces every three months. Yeah rotating everyone through yeah this is nonsense I mean this is like ruin dude I don't get this I mean they're This thing about Russia it's all something you know there's a missing piece of this puzzle let's listen to what we're talking about Russia and since you mentioned Turkey Oh when I have a little thing on Turkey so ask Adam But since you mentioned Russia play the clip on Germany

1:42:51 German and Russian trade problems. This is ongoing with especially with Germany, but all the other countries Poland or everybody else has got huge this is a dough we're doing this on purpose just to Fuck the EU. It's been a spectacular fall from grace, the Russian economy has been plagued by the falling oil price and Western sanctions those have both dragged down the value of the ruble Of course economic crises don't happen in isolation they also affect trading partners The German chambers of industry and commerce have held a Russia conference in Berlin to try and keep the trade ties tight

1:43:31 The political mood between Moscow and Berlin might be frosty, but politicians and business leaders here hope to put that behind them and get back to work. But they have their work cut out for them. Since 2012 German exports to Russia have tumbled by half And a third of German companies have put their investment plans on hold. Around 80% of companies expect Russia's economic situation to worsen More and more members are complaining about the sanctions against Russia. We've lost around 30 to 40 billion in trade volume, and more and more companies are warning that they'll have to cut staff due to the reduced trading figures. Something urgently needs to be done about this."

1:44:15 The sanctions have also weighed on Asman International, which is helping build several airports in Russia. The contracts represent a fifth of the company's business. It is hard to get new orders at the moment because our current contracts are starting to expire and our Russian partners can't secure financing as they are locked out of European financial markets I'm glad you played that We forget sometimes to bring that up, these sanctions and everything. It's a messed up all trade. And Turkey has got... I get stories about Turkey saying- Well, they're supposed to receive the new North Stream would be to Turkey, the Turkish Stream Pipeline. It is a complete cluster and this United States is behind it. Yeah, it is. And I am actually stunned that the EU and the Europeans haven't figured out that this is not in their interest

1:45:09 Well, we're Ukraine. We need to remind them what Victoria noodleman Kagan said Exactly so there's that now I do have an ask Adam thing you want to drift a little bit okay? So this guy, Peter Berger who's CNN's security guy. He's a British guy in fact he looks exactly like him. Oh yeah that's the guy they always bring in when it's serious security news. He's all about it! He's all about security. Security Sanders. And he's like the guy just got a new book. It's a new book called Homegrown Terrorists. Yes, Violent Extremism. Yeah so I got a two-parter. I've got part one and part two

1:45:56 And this is a question for you. This is Peter Berger on C-SPAN discussing his book about all of it. He's got the worldview of everything on C-SPAN, and he's taking this crazy question that the C-SPAN guy couldn't handle and he actually pretty much cut the guy off. But I want you to play this part one, and then I have a question for you, and then we'll play the part two. John is calling in from North Port Florida on our Republican line. You're on with Peter Bergen. Excuse me. Hello, Peter. Thank you for listening. I really appreciate the way you're speaking and everything. The only thing I have to ask a question is why are you not talking about the country of Turkey? The reason why I say that is I grew up in Pennsylvania

1:46:43 I live in Florida now, but I grew up in Pennsylvania three minutes from a town called Salisbury, Pennsylvania. His name is Fentullah Gulan. He's a clergyman out of the country of Turkey. He was put into the United States back in 1999 and Robert Amsterdam—you might have heard this person out of London and he has an office at Washington—I spoke to him briefly regarding this man because there is now an investigation throughout the United States because of charter schools throughout the United States that he is under investigation. He's considered a terrorist which the country of Turkey put him on the terrorist list plus, the country of Turkey is the one that hired Robert Amsterdam Hey John this is getting real complicated and where do you want to go with it?

1:47:32 The only question is, is he familiar with Fentullah Gulen? And I feel the country of Turkey is funneling terrorists out of the country of Turkey into Syria. Thank you sir! All right, I'm ready. Okay so where do you think Peter Bergen goes with this? Let me think. Okay, so the true answer is hey this guy's on an investigation he was put there by the CIA got his green card with help from the uncle of the Sarnoff brothers who were the Boston bombers... I think you're right idea but let's hear what Peter Bergen says Wait wait! Do i get a guess? No it's just if you got to guess I mean good you can get some more if there's more to it than this that's gonna reveal these CIA stooge

1:48:24 No, he's probably gonna say... I'm trying to think if Peter Berg is- first of all have an accent. He's British. I don't know man but i have to give up. Hit it! Sorry. I'm not familiar with the case um... I'm not familiar with the case um... Never heard of him! Never heard of him never heard of Fertula Gulen. Yeah go see Killing Ed the documentary So there's the book that's a value of the book we just got in the nutshell. Never heard of him I tell you

1:49:02 Ah yeah, that's good. Now Turkey has requested extradition of Gulen? Good luck! Yeah I know the CIA should account for this eventually someone is going to have to explain exactly how all that went down. We have a few people to thank for show 801 helping us out here and starting with Dame Beth Baronetess of Baja, Arizona in Tucson 8948 interesting number. Yeah what does he think that means? I don't know no idea hi all gents uh here's 800 dimes uh with a bunch of she has some codes here we're not gonna read uh thank you for your courage something or other uh Dame Beth Baronette that's of Baja that's it

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1:51:38 He sent me a USAID bag. No! Like, like a bag to go help people in Haiti? Like a Haiti help bag?! I'll put a picture of it in the next newsletter It's a bag that would...it was an empty bag of course but it was a bag that would hold sorghum Usually those bags are filled with cash Yeah, well this one wasn't. It wasn't filled with anything but it's very artistic I think it is a work of art and it says sorghum and I want to talk about sorghum one of these days on the show What is sorghum? Sorghum is kind of a grass that turns out to be like the fifth most popular cereal in the world Its not eaten so much in United States although its in the south sometimes used as a cereal for different things it could be used as...

1:52:29 Uh, well... It makes the sugar. You can make a sugar out of it called sorghum molasses Is it a plant? It's a plant! It's grass! It's giant grass! It's like wheat! Huh Only it's mostly used, and I started looking into this because I want to say what is sorghum being used for? Why are we in the United States... It turns out we grow a lot of it. Kansas mainly grows sorghum. And you should look at so that you can recognize if there was ever a sorghum plant that you could recognize and say something about. I was looking into why are we giving it away so much into these USAID bags? Where is it going, must be going a lot of to Africa because it seems to be much used in Africa. And you start to look and look and look what does it do...what did they cook with it? It turns out that if you've tried to... They make alcohol from it. You can do that, we do that. In fact the Chinese use sorghum to make famous alcohol.

1:53:25 So you can make alcohol out of it. Can't get high off of it? There must be something you can get high off this stuff. It's alcohol! I'll smoke it But if you start looking at what is used for like perhaps in Africa and what could be used for the United States, gruel It's used to make gruel. Hmm, I've never had it. For starving people Oh! It says slave food? It's slave food Nice! Starving slave food is gruel and which is that fits right in with the mac and cheese and all the rest of it Dynamite And so...I am predicting now immediately on this show Here we go That sorghum will become a major player in the superfood movement Do you think we could have sorghum with bugs

1:54:09 Sorghum with bugs crunchy cereal, crunchy cereal everybody. Well that'd be gruel. Crunchy gruel. Crunchy gruel? Yeah well okay I like this prediction yeah it's a good prediction good one but look out for sorghum it's gonna take off any time soon does it have to be processed before you make it into gruel or can you boil oh this is the thing that's funny about it to get the little grains out of it you have to boil it and you have to boil it for like an 55 to 65 minutes over an hour. So it's not really something that would go well in a area that doesn't have a lot of energy, unless you can just burn wood and put the gruel in a pot... It's not really fast food. ...and put it over the burning wood and cook for an hour or little over an hour then you can eat it. You could put bugs in it and garnish with kale. Yum! And top off with some mac n' cheese. That meal is fit for king.

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1:56:03 Dario... where's my keyboard? There it is. Dario Gonzales or Gonzals, depends on how you pronounce it that name is pronounced a number of different ways whether he's Portuguese Spanish 69-69 he's in Williams Landing Victoria Australia Brian Warden, I think it's Sir Brian Warden Downs Illinois 6433. Richard Young in London Ontario Canada 5510. Custom Holobook Company 5432 in Summerfield North Carolina we haven't heard from them for a while so... Yeah that's Sir Jimmy! Holobook dot com. Yeah great product. It's an outstanding product. It should be sold in gun stores really? Yeah yeah when I was marketing, marketing app

1:56:47 Sir Gray of Grimerica. Hello, Grimerica boys! Grimerica Boys in Calgary Alberta 5150 Mr BX in Kastel Kambelovic in Croatia Huh? Kambelovic Castle, I don't know where that is... Croatia now the rest of these are 50 just not a big list today. Most of these are 50 we got John Highton Folsom California Daniel Laboe in Bath Michigan Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon UK. Nikki Lewis in Seattle Washington Diana Carruthers and Tumwater Washington Chris Moore an Indianapolis Indiana Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville Illinois Joshua Defabo in Alameda California where are these all grayed out? Means you have a note it was check maybe

1:57:38 No, well these were checks. Benjamin Smith in Oakland California Black Knights are inside jobs in Seattle Washington that concludes our group of people from for show 801 Yes and we have the birthday also F cancer for Mr BX he also has a new human resource and a job that is looking for man this Wow okay and then Nikki Lewis also as a birthday shout out very nice Yeah, it's a short list but they're there John. They're there. There...there...there...there... I need a hug from Kasich! I told you about the hug I got once didn't i? You got any hugs from Kasich? No not Kasich. I interviewed Shaquille O'Neal Oh see he likes to give people hugs And after that I said hey Shaq man you know I'm 6'4 and he's 7 what is he 7'8 or 7'7 No no he's like 7'2

1:58:40 And I said, but he's huge. Could I have a hug? And he went, well, it was a beer was a great hug. Oh man. It was really by giant bear. He was really nice. All right thank you very much also thank you to everybody who came in under the cutoff of $50 and quick note here from let me see who is this from love deluxe they've only been on at six months What is this? Oh, he says he's broke. He says I really wanted to get a night hood and have only gotten $400 but health problems and unfortunate debt have collided To even make fifty dollars a month unaffordable call me out as a douchebag No we're not going to dude This is the whole point of this show It's free You support when you can, you support if you want too That's the way it works that-I like that system very much If only the whole world worked that way John Let's go to the grocery store and say

1:59:39 Nah, not today. I'll take the cucumber but I'm not going to pay you." No, the douchebags are people who have money to spare. Exactly! So we really appreciate all the support and as requested a couple of karmas... Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Tomorrow we got Dwight Chicks has happy birthday to his brother Doug. We got Mr. Bix who celebrates today, happy birthday! Nikki Lewis says happy birthday to her husband Tristan the Canadian and Sir Donald Winkler knight of the bohemian forest and bargain realm which you'll be in a moment turns 41 tomorrow Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe! Almost forgot to remind you...

2:00:36 And I've got the lucky blade out. I'm gonna be taking this one on the road with me to Arkansas Hello, sorry, there you go This little podcast the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and therefore you have reached the round table. The Knights and the Dames and we are very happy to pronounce the K-D Dame Christina and Sir Donald Winkler Knight of the Bohemian Forest and the Burghain Realm for you! We have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Raspberry Pies and Breakfast Burritos, Drams and DMT, Librarians and Jager Bombs Opium and Warm Orange Juice, Papi Van Winkel Bourbon served by Oktoberfest Frauleins

2:01:18 Three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, rent boys in Chardonnay Hot pants and booze Long-haired heavy metal guys in scotch Wenches in beer Rubin S. Women in rosé Vodka vanilla Bong hits and bourbon Sparkly cider And escorts and mutton... ...and mead! And uh we had like three I think three ring photos that were tweeted so make sure you retweet those John I like the one producer who had the certificate, the sealing wax, the ring and then three handguns. Yeah that's... we're not on a list! We're not on a list anywhere! Oh man lots of feedback on the section 508 stuff The you know for um i've learned a term uh blind people in the blind community call themselves which doesn't mean i can call them that uh blenders for some reason

2:02:07 There's not blenders? No, no. It was very specific...blinders! There was a pronunciation guide And here is what I've learned from a lot of...we have a lot of blinders who listen to the show who..I will say one of them actually said they use our websites as an example how accessibility should work That's a huge compliment towards us because we have that baked into our DNA. It's baked? It's baked into our DNA. Exactly, but this is really being driven by lawsuits and what are known as the ADA trolls

2:02:46 And it doesn't, Section 508 doesn't even matter. This is where I think I got sidetracked thinking where is the law that says you have to do this? It is an interpretation of the American with Disabilities Act and the bottom line is if you don't make the effort, if you don't try to be A or AA compliant with the WCAG 2.0 content guidelines... You'll get sued! That's what happening. And everyone in the community hates it, say Bill on the other hand is good that you know gets people's attention but that is why the consultants are out and why everyone's running around trying to fix their websites and it could hit us too John we could easily be sued We don't really provide such a public service perhaps as some other companies do

2:03:35 But it's rampant, rampant these lawsuits. And usually they're for about $15,000 and it's just easier to settle! Why call your law team? Don't call the lawyers just settle that's why it's being pushed so hard but I can't convince anyone of the people who have emailed back at me that it makes no sense to degrade my experience Because you know if you have to degrade the colors of a website to be compliant Would this not also be the case with television clothing people wear outdoor advertising advertising in magazines? Can we now just sue all of them. I'm sure they'd like to I'm sure it may happen good I think we just go back to gray everything should just be grayscale and I said it before I like the grace Just keep it at gray scales good grayscale That's a little update on that

2:04:32 Well, we should at least discuss this before the show ends which is the back and forth that's been going on in the EU regarding Great Britain. Yes! I have maybe as a little start off, I have Quickie from Cameron his little speech there in Brussels Okay play that This is after he said Done the work, he has negotiated on behalf of Britain. Within the last hour I've negotiated a deal to give the United Kingdom special status inside the European Union. I will fly back to London tonight and update the cabinet at 10am tomorrow morning. Thank you! This deal has delivered on the commitments I made in the beginning of this renegotiation process. Britain will be permanently out of ever closer union never part of a European super state

2:05:27 There will be tough new restrictions on access to our welfare system for EU migrants. No more something-for-nothing Britain will never join the Euro and we've secured vital protections for our economy, and a full say over the rules of the free trade single market while remaining outside the Euro I believe that this is enough for me to recommend that the United Kingdom remain in the European Union having the best of both worlds There you go special status all negotiated. He's like exaggerating that must be the least it must be but he Lot of that is true and but the main thing they were trying to get out It was the welfare problem that they had which was people would come over and then they would To work yeah

2:06:16 from Poland and other places, not just the refugees. And many of them wouldn't...they would just immediately quit their jobs, stay there and neglect welfare. Not many of them but enough that it was becoming a problem. That was the absolute main thing they were working on. They were...the special status thing that can be pulled out from under him. But this report that I have which discusses to build up to this And which is a report out of Germany and was played on Deutsche Welle shows the kind of Kind of crap that went on during the process of him getting this special status in fact. They weren't gonna grant it What do you think this means though? The special status does it just Just we will participate We want to be a member, but not really It's like

2:07:05 It's some special privilege. Play this Deutsche World thing first and then we'll talk about that. Good morning, good morning! It is exactly what he has been asking for and what he needs. David Cameron is fighting an uphill battle – and he's very keen to show that to British voters. The key to overcome last pockets of resistance to a deal now seem to be bilateral meetings… The deal here is possible but But timing, it will depend what kind of deepness of drama some countries would like to perform. Deepness of drama? Yes. So who are the culprits here? Everybody! Take Greece for example. The Greek Prime Minister has apparently brought the refugee crisis back on the agenda

2:07:50 Greece wants its EU peers to pledge to keep their borders open to refugees, at least until March. A government source said or it will refuse to adopt an accord keeping Britain in the bloc Then there is Belgium. The country is pressing for a clause to ensure a deal with Britain would automatically cease to exist in case of a vote to leave, to make sure there was no possibility for a second renegotiation. It's very clear there will be no second chance it's now or never and we have to get this message across with the full capacity of Europe. The marathon talks continue and plans for an English breakfast brunch or lunch have long

2:08:30 been transformed into plans for a dinner to hammer out the final deal. And our Brussels correspondent is standing by with the very latest, Max Hoffman he joins us now. Max so do we have any indications on where things stand at this hour? Are they are least close to coming to some sort of consensus Well, we have news concerning the food. Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor decided to skip the dinner I think and she went for... And that's not a joke! She went to grab some fries just next to the building here, the European Council Building because everybody took a break for about two hours to clear their head and approach this what might be final stretch of negotiations All the delegations were advised to get hotel reservations here in case it drags on through the night and maybe even

2:09:18 But the most diplomats I've been talking to think that within the next hours there will be a deal but of course they couldn't give me any guarantees as if anybody would actually be sleeping in those hotels max it looks like you know, They're actually having sex. Did you see that report? I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, there were people who were so bored with what was going on that they were in the cloakroom and the bathrooms nailing each other! Well this thing turned out to be a benefit... The idea is just give the Brits a few little crumbs. Yeah they maintain Schengen and then keep their currency

2:09:56 They keep their currency, they don't have to pay these ridiculous welfare rates. Although they do after they've been there for four or five years in other words they put a time limit on it so in other words you can show up and start collecting welfare but if you show up and work for awhile then after 4-5 years you decide to do it you can start collecting welfare. And this is not the same for other countries in the EU? Apparently no, it's not. I thought every country got to determine their own laws? I thought that was how it worked well Yeah It's a bunch of other things supposed to there were concessions and one of the main ones that would get the UKIP guys were irked about was There was a timetable where everybody had to do a kumbaya and come together and we'd become one giant country and

2:10:42 And the Brits have been grandfathered out of that. They don't have to take part in this kind of thing, and it's one of the reasons they get to keep their money. But it is interesting... I read about it and I listened these German reports, and it seems that I'm going to have to wait until UKIP or some of the real euro haters come out with their analysis. And have you now seen that Nigel Farage ultra-right is now teaming up with George Galloway ultra left? on this issue? Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. It's almost like the world wide phenomenon is almost like Trump and Sanders have more... yeah it's interesting... more in common than they don't, yeah right Common enemies is what it amounts to and yeah it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out but I think if we're going to talk about the Brexit vote thats coming up this summer uh..I believe its a summer

2:11:38 They are not going to leave the European Union. There was a bunch of like they're showing people handing out pamphlets and now in the EU or in Britain And they're all these pretty millennial girls, and they want to stay in the EU because it's so nice to be European or whatever. I have no idea what their thinking is but i'm telling you this gonna be like the Scotland vote It's going to look like its going to happen and then it doesn't happen They are not... The Brits do not have the guts to leave the EU And there's propaganda. I asked the question, the same question I ask about Bernie Sanders and free education. It used to be that way! The Brits used to be on their own as a single country doing fine trading with Canada and United States and various European countries Why can't you know if they used to build do it now? They can't do it Yeah why why can't they do it now well because you got this big blog because of the scam

2:12:36 Yeah, because of the scam. It's totally a money scam once you have the money available then all you have to do is go and get it and it's running through the children You know your your running the scam through the American children Disgusting well if you wanted to hear a long clip that'll disgust you further especially running something through the American children I have the clip alright roll it out Well let's set it up Goldie Hawn She's up there in Susan Sarandon territory

2:13:15 About 12 years ago, she says created this system that the schools are implementing called mind up Minds up and it mined up And this is something that is going around the schools and I have to tell you It's the most for this this package That was put together and shown on The Today Show as though it was their package but there's too much music. It's overproduced This is Goldie Hawn's foundation. This is from her foundation I see yes and mind up well play the clip, and you'll get most of the story But for 12 years now the Oscar-winning actress has been following a much more serious script that focuses on children in many ways right now Is this the most important thing? I've ever done

2:14:03 I'd have to say probably yes. One, two three... She created a program called Mind Up working with neuroscientists psychologists and educators they developed an interactive way to teach school kids how their brains work and how to become more mindful what does mindfulness mean? Mindfulness is really being in the moment i think it's wonderful be able to bring yourself back to center actually have the sense of now It's all we have. We don't have yesterday is gone, tomorrow hasn't happened so the beautiful thing is to live right now How hard is that? The only thing that's hard about it is finding the time to sit down

2:14:42 A few times each day, the kids pause. It's called a brain break after a few quiet moments their eyes open and heart rates drop That's telling our bodies that we're calm and we can think clearly And were ready to take a test or ready to calm down it can also tame aggression What if you're angry at your friend? Should you just hit them no That's why we pause Take some deep breaths In and out. I don't do nearly as much conflict resolution with students, they're better able to manage their own conflicts with themselves. Goldie strongly believes in meditation. Ready? Okay. Do you close your eyes? Close your eyes if you're comfortable here, once you are in the lab. She gave me a quick lesson. If thoughts come into your mind let them float away and come back to breathing

2:15:32 She started practicing in her 20s to calm anxiety during her rapid rise to fame as a star on Laugh-In. Do you think kids today have it harder than when you were young? Most definitely, I think the world has changed obviously it changed after 9 11 and we live in a lot of fear She hopes MindUp gives kids the tools they need to be happy, optimistic and compassionate. 650 thousand children kindergarten through eighth grade are now doing the program when you're calm does that help you with your schoolwork? When I'm calmed down at home and do my yoga i feel like I should do homework more and focus

2:16:15 When you hear the chime, how does it make you feel? Good. Why is that? Because it cools me down Have you heard some success stories that have moved you? Yeah One of them was these kids who came back and said if it wasn't for this class I would've never gone through college When you hear stories like that how do you respond I cry because our children have to have every chance to survive and every chance to live in a healthy, happy world. For this comedy legend it's a dramatic turn giving children something good to think about for today Joe Fryer NBC News Redondo Beach California yeah you could've cut that minute out of that i'm sure

2:17:02 You know, I could have. So this is a couple of things there was a couple of things you couldn't see they had this classroom and they had this little gong that they did not a gone but ding this little noise you heard it three times in that yes it almost sound like an iPhone ringtone well as a ding and then it's a little thing and then they have a little hammer the ting and when they hit to think the kids a whole room full of kids have lobbying response freeze like yeah, they freeze in place and close their eyes the whole class boing it's like And it's frightening to see this. It's like creepy do they have to cower in the corner? I have no shelter-in-place Well, this is just did they bring the bell on all these kids boying They all closed her eyes and there still in silent its this it's extremely programmed This is part of the mindfulness movement

2:17:55 Mindful living. You use that word mindfulness? Yes, and you see this on the face bag everywhere It's about living in the moment living now feeling now being present which I'm all for The Hahn Foundation brought in 1.2 million dollars last year This is a typical Hollywood Tax thing yeah tax deal and Kimberly McNatt the chief executive officer takes home a quarter of that with a two... $289,000 a year salary. So great! And they make children freeze on command Do you have one of these devices? Do you have one of these ding devices? Yeah right here What do you think was it that was that it has to be the right timbre It has to be the right key

2:18:45 Well, this might... I don't have the right. Because then you can just because you're in California and go around to these schools and hit that thing. It looked like some they all looked they showed a couple of these They all look identical there's some it's I think they buy them so i think i can buy one Doug oh well maybe they could maybe they sell them on the site It's possible if they can and we need it because we ding it on the show Yes, and then kids will freeze in their tracks a bunch of kids are what wrong with Billy. Let me see they have They've teaching oh you can be we could become Certificated and accredited in mind up play that theremin That now that would actually be great If we could get kids to respond to the theremin

2:19:31 Thera... thera... theremin? There- there a min- how do you spell theremin? I don't know, you're the one that wrote it. They changed the old title. Theramin! I'm gonna put this on a hot button Come on kids it's time to be mindful Here we go The Hahn Foundation provides resources to support the successful implementation of the MindUp program Sooo...? There's the curriculum but I like the dinger Yeah, we need a copy of the dinger. Is it mind... Mind up? Is it is it a symbol what does it look like no oh It looks like that it looks like a one thing of xylophone cuz just the one thing across Mind-up tone okay I'm gonna look for that We should be able to get one of those tones and just hit it all the time yeah And you know and if you do that near Kate Hudson she's like drops to her knees

2:20:31 I'd get an in the morning for that. Give yourself an in the morning. Alright, I got a couple of Black Lives Mattered things before we phase out for today First is... Oh yes this was very nice This is Melissa Click Do you remember Melissa Click? Melissa Click Melissa Click Melissa Click was the journalism professor Uh, in Missouri. People need their space go away? No I need some muscle over here! We need to remove this reporter i need some muscle over here! Yeah she needs some muscle and she was on CBS This Morning which sometimes known as the Today Show and she uh... and as I'm- So she's apologizing but listen to the words because it shows you exactly what her mind says first of all she's not sorry at all She doesn't care if you look at this woman You just want a

2:21:26 She evokes anger, just the contentiousness, the smirky. I don't know man something about her rubs me the wrong way. The University of Missouri says this morning an investigation into the assistant professor who sparked a national backlash is nearly done. Were you appalled by your behavior when you watched the video? I was embarrassed by my behavior. I believe it doesn't represent who i am as a person, It doesn't represent the good that I was doing there that day and certainly wish I could do it over again. Click says she was trying to protect the students protesting who she says were under threat and wasn't sure the man filming was a real journalist

2:22:12 He introduced himself only as media and came at me with a camera. He came at me with the camera! And that's a camera, not a weapon? Sure... but it also wasn't a big camera It could have been a phone-sized camera. Again didn't say professional journalist to me Oh, that's okay. So this is what the kids learn in school John that only if you have a big camera, the big camera, a big old fashioned camera with a huge VHS tape in it with with a big battery on the tap on the back yeah then then your professional media size camera wasn't

2:22:52 Again, didn't say professional journalist to me. That's you know if you have a camera You need to put on the side a sticker that says professional camera Yeah, she's got it were you supposed to wear a fedora with a thing stick in a card sticking in this press Sure, and he should be smoking a cigar He gotta be smoking maybe you can get away with the green visor If your print we're not a weapon Sure, but it also wasn't a big camera. It could have been a phone size camera. It wasn't a Again didn't say professional journalist to me we asked if she would review the table I just want to get this right But I know I'm obsessed by it but for a journalism modern-day journalism professor assistant or not just say that

2:23:39 She was confused and thought it was not a journalist because they only have the big cameras that say professional journalists This woman should not be teaching. No, she shouldn't. This is really... Every year of citizen journalism? Every year of journalism? Every year of the First Amendment?! Again didn't say professional journalist to me We asked if she would- What's a professional journalist? You can only be professional if you went to school I don't know. Doesn't make any sense to me. Again didn't say professional journalist to me We asked if she would review the tape of that incident with us She declined Oh! I don't really wish to do that

2:24:15 No, no. I know you don't wish to do that of course not Horrible woman and she gets away with it gets a pass no problem But then this is little on the long side but maybe worth listening to it Because there's kind of a surprise they've seen the video makes it that much better, but this is Captain Clay Higgins in Louisiana And they're out, there's gang members out. Gang members around and these...and the sheriff, the captain he is tired of the gang members and this is a big outdoor shot all the materiel is there all the SUVs and you know their riot stuff and everyone's out. Gremlin street gang is responsible for hundreds of violent crimes murders armed robberies witness intimidation burglaries drug trafficking extortion

2:23:39 She was confused and thought it was not a journalist because they only have the big cameras that say professional journalists This woman should not be teaching. No, she shouldn't. This is really... Every year of citizen journalism? Every year of journalism? Every year of the First Amendment?! Again didn't say professional journalist to me We asked if she would- What's a professional journalist? You can only be professional if you went to school I don't know. Doesn't make any sense to me. Again didn't say professional journalist to me We asked if she would review the tape of that incident with us She declined Oh! I don't really wish to do that

2:24:15 No, no. I know you don't wish to do that of course not Horrible woman and she gets away with it gets a pass no problem But then this is little on the long side but maybe worth listening to it Because there's kind of a surprise they've seen the video makes it that much better, but this is Captain Clay Higgins in Louisiana And they're out, there's gang members out. Gang members around and these...and the sheriff, the captain he is tired of the gang members and this is a big outdoor shot all the materiel is there all the SUVs and you know their riot stuff and everyone's out. Gremlin street gang is responsible for hundreds of violent crimes murders armed robberies witness intimidation burglaries drug trafficking extortion

2:25:06 beatings. We've arrested 10 of these thugs and have warrants on 7 more. Every one of the animals is most definitely armed and dangerous. Darren Carter, Aaron Carter Travis Cooper Cody Guidry Jaron Diggs Kirkland Demache Jonathan Landry we have felony warrant for your arrest you will be hunted you will be tracked if you raise your weapon to a man like me We'll return fire with superior fire. How's it sounding so far, John? How do you like this guy? What does he sound like to you? What did he think he sounded- Does he sounded like a big ass southern bigot racist?! He sounds like a good old boy who is probably overweight

2:25:50 No, he's not actually. Darren Carter you think men like these are afraid of an uneducated 125 pound punk like you that never won a fair fight in your life and hold your gun sideways? Young man... I liked that part! You hold your gun sideways all the gangbangers they hold their guns sideways which ensures you'll always miss. ...young man i'll meet you on solid ground anytime anywhere light or heavy Lighter Heavy! Makes no difference to me you wont walk away I might want to point out every single one of the mugshots was a black guy. Look at you! Men like us, son we do dumbbell presses with weights bigger than you and the convicts in jail

2:26:28 Most of those men are good people who just found themselves crossed with the law. They're not evil, and they don't respect you or any punk like you! They'll toss you around like a rag doll I encourage every citizen watching this to look into your own heart and find the American courage that conquers all evil And here comes the big reveal Where did you get this? It's a public service announcement from Captain Clay Higgins Well where did it run? Oh local TV But now there's a zoom out. Here is the reveal.

2:27:17 Take a close look behind me. Standing next to every cop is the leader of our black community This is not about race, it's about right versus wrong One last message to the gremlins You don't like the things I've told you tonight? I got one thing to say...I'm easy to find! On behalf of the St. Andrew Parish Sheriff's Office The Louisiana State Police The U.S. Marshals And every cop and law-abiding citizen from sea to shining sea I'm Captain Clay Higgins asking every patriot to stand up, share this video and send a clear message to the world. We're Americans. Would rather die on our feet than live on our knees. That's right fools! I like it that way it was... I watched this thing like wow what a racist is guy isn't then all of sudden there's like all these black guys standing next to the cops It was great! I'm all for this go out there and shoot the gangbangers

2:28:15 That's what it sounds like. Yeah, well you know they're tired. This is Southern justice They're tired of it man. They're a little different yeah We're a little different down here in the south The family guy doing good work very good work You know by the way he was shouting the whole time this one. Yeah Well so family guy along with South Park and these guys are doing they're starting to do good work So before we go, I was gonna something. I want to do the last show I'm going to do it now before we're setting up a clip and you're just gonna arrange well You got a clip coming? Well, I'm saying family guy family guy family guy family Yeah But I thought you were just referring to the museum no family guys doing good work They're making fun of the security theater making some fun of the government and its subtle And I like it guys were under attack by who I don't know Oh

2:29:13 Oh, it's Cobra. Oh of course look they have the pictures of the snakes on their planes Duke What have I been saying for years what makes a good terrorist organization brand recognition brand recognition? Exactly Brand recognition is that Brian no no well it's Brian's voice but it's not Brian. Hmm. I love that Well, I missed that one And then the final one actually I'm gonna open up the gate for this one if you don't mind Neil deGrasse Tyson Neil DeGrasse Tyson has his he has a podcast called stargazers or something. It's a TV show it's probably a TV show

2:30:01 And he said something really remarkable, which was so not Neil deGrasse Tyson. So not what you'd expect him to say but now that he said it thank you very much NDGT! Now if my records are correct here 2014 was the warmest year on record since 1880. Correct. So we've got these other data 97% of climate scientists agree Only on that global warming is reality and humans are most of it. That's an important fact Yes, okay now however There's a famous quote from Galileo Yeah Who says? And I quote in questions of science the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning Of a single individual you go so I've never been happy with people saying 97% of scientists agree because that's like so

2:30:52 So, maybe they're wrong. What I... what they should be saying in my IMHO, in my humble opinion is that the overwhelming consensus of experiments give these results It's the experiments that the results of experiments that matter here This is a tough one though because we're not experiment. Well, we're running only one experiment Observations observations and experts that's what people report on that's what we should be looking at I like it Thank You Neil deGrasse Tyson Does he realize what he's done there? No made it easy for us

2:31:30 I'm watching this travel show and they go to Fort Jefferson, which i'd love to see so fort jefferson is all you're watching television during the show No not now. Okay good for jefferson. I just didn't get a clip of it. I do have a clip but some reason didn't show up in the clips Fort Jefferson's end is at the end of the Tortuga, or it's in the vicinity of the Tortuga Islands which are on the...in the area of the Keys. The Florida Keys. And the Tortuga Islands which are named after turtles are like at sea level about a foot above sea level

2:32:16 The whole island little structures, the islands are small. They're little bitty groups and then this Fort Jefferson is about a foot above sea level and it was built in 1860 A beautiful fort so since 1860 this thing which is at pretty much a foot above sea level Where's the rising tides of Tortuga Island should be underwater? Yeah And this Fort Jefferson should be inundated But no Is the rising sea levels, they don't go to this Florida Keys? Well you'd think they would. Yeah Maybe uh... It's an anomaly I guess the lumpy ocean is only rising some places that there are nobodies looking at. Well maybe we should ask Because of what is happening in Greenland right now The maps of the world will have to be redrawn

2:33:15 This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay. That's right, time for another Mud Flats report! John C. Dvorak how the mud flats doing? Well the mud flats are still there but it is high tide so they're covered with a couple inches of water but not so much that the nearby freeway which is at one foot above sea level has any effect there so it appears to me that nothing's going on. The maps of the world will have you wrong. Thanks for telling us There's nothing going on what would happen to San Francisco back? Mud flats intact we're good to go. I'm still looking for that for that chime now We'll find it yeah, ask the schools or just send him an email say like you'd like that I'd like to get your turn and my kids of meditating. I need that chime I like it because you know the you know this kind of stuff It sticks for a long time You can probably just do it in Whole Foods and see what children freeze

2:34:17 Ding! Hello kids. Oh, to be tried yes all right bring us home Johnny boy well do I have anything to bring us home with? No no I thought you had one more thing you wanted to talk about maybe i'm wrong take a look at the list maybe just mention briefly that we didn't talk about on the last show that watermelon head John Kerry Secretary of State met with the heads of the major studios on Tuesday to talk about how to counter the ISIS narrative And he tweeted... Oh, there's that. Yeah somebody sent us a picture of the meeting. He tweeted a picture here is his tweet. It's like douchebagville! Here is his tweet Great Convo W slash studio execs in LA good to hear their perspectives and ideas on how to counter hashtag daesh narrative So I have one last clip

2:35:07 There's a they've been doing studies. This is one of the rundown of the news stories this was important because I this gives me another question to ask you okay? This is the sleeping college education clip, okay The Wall Street Journal reports that many Americans are sleep deprived. A new study by the CDC finds more than 35% of adults get less than the recommended seven hours of sleep in a 24-hour period People who do get enough rest tend to be employed, married or have a college education or higher. Hmmmm... Okay here's the question for you. What is higher than a college education?

2:35:47 Is there some other institution we're unaware of? Hey, it's a club I want to be in. What's higher than college education? No, yeah, well you say it's the masters degree... no, masters degree is a college education PhD is college, bachelors is college, so what's higher? Hmmmm....I don't know! Public office maybe? It's a mystery. Could be. Alrighty good nice So more town halls tonight. I'll watch, you don't have to if you want to. I'll watch tonight and get the clips from that. And well... Is there stuff tonight really? Yeah it seems like every show night there's something going on. Apparently in the next Republican debate of course i think i've heard this before the next debate coming up in Tuesday or Thursday of next week they said will be THE LAST! Oh sure. That what they said. Uh huh. Sure

2:36:48 And somehow Trump's gonna be the huge disadvantage now because he doesn't have Bush to pick on him. Oh, okay well we'll see Stand by Cruz and Rubio that could be fun Don't forget the check to cash our Donald Trump money as we've been accused Cash that Donald Trump money catch that money got a big check here they guys cheap bastard He's not giving us anything Everybody coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in downtown Austin, FEMA Region 6. In the skyscraper I say in the morning to you, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's a beautiful sunny day and appears is gonna be sunny for the next few days and maybe a whole week. I'm John C. Dvorak We will return right here on Thursday remember us at dvorak dot org slash na until then in the morning everybody adios mofos

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2:39:19 The science is in! The science is on a critical Science! You might die Elon

2:40:05 The best podcast in the universe! Amen, fist bump. Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A