Long Gun

00:00 Who's that one a-hole? Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday December 3rd 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 778 This is no agenda A new month with new normals and new realities guarding your sanity and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region 6 Austin Texas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it is predicted to have 100% of rain And it's sunny. I'm John C DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning! Always good to have a weather report on The 8s You know, so they had on Monday there was this... We got front coming in or something So they said 100% chance of rain and last night they said be raining. Oh well. It's sunny Yeah Well they messed it up

00:52 Don't understand they can't get the weather right you can't count on it. You can't count on anybody just can't count on anybody oh Man, I hate it when that happens well There's a lot going on but it's all about one thing It's all about one thing well. I don't know most of them even at the cop thing go on there's a couple only one couple You know before we even start John you know what its time for? It's time for the monthly review of Obama's special days. No, it's time for our podcast content trigger warning of course! Oh yes... I'm sorry The following podcast contains a satanic message.

01:40 Yeah, shoot me. It's not Listener discretion is advised there you go we're all good to go did you play that what did he say well? It's a satanic message I can't yeah But it said but everyone knows the tanning messages can be understood if they're played backwards You want me to play it backwards for ya? Yeah? Yeah, but as he shirks it in a still don't be a douchebag Donates to the no agenda podcast Satan will give you a leakage Thank goodness You walked right into it Wasn't that the idea yeah of course it was ah oh I'm through Leaving in disgust so apparently there was this shooting. Yeah, I heard about it no It was better than this yesterday

02:36 John, the shill and I had a quick little Skype thing which is funny by itself that the three of us will get on Skype. It happens once every three years And the meeting is like, yeah Eric tell us what to do. Okay good see you later and then John said uh hey Adam uh You haven't heard about this Shooting thing have ya? I'm like well how can i avoid it? I've got 6 000 new news feeds 500 television channels Like oh drat! Like what did you find something Did you have some big expose you wanted to roll out on us no Well, let's listen to how the BBC categorizes it. This has been a lot... this is a great time for media deconstruction. Well and there are couple of things I've come up with at least three or four insights as part of the standard you know let's ban guns litany. Yeah well here's the first. Here's the first. Fascinating! This is being played this morning on CNN. I saw in MSNBC It's out on The Web

03:41 And it's a... I believe it's intended to shame us, which as you know I'm not a fan of shaming in any way. It is meant to shame us into, you know just shame us for being Americans basically. Right now on that stretcher Just another day in the United States of America Another day of gunfire panic and fear This time in the city of San Bernardino in California where a civic building was apparently under attack The news channels are playing this going like everyone thinks we're douchebags We're horrible

04:18 That's good. I like the way it says San Bernardino. San Bernardino, yes! San Bernardino... Okay so this is- Just another day in the life of America Before we get started This is- Come visit There are a couple of things that really bother me When it came to- We had two shootings Really Well there was probably more But we had 2 that made the news just before The San Bernardino We had the uh Colorado Springs, was it Colorado Springs? Yeah. Yeah. Colorado Springs shooting in about near Planned Parenthood. What I find interesting is that that quite quickly and i'm sure we'll get to it later on...in fact we have to! That quite quickly was saddled up as well you know obviously this guy's uh you know he's a nut job who's been inspired by the rhetoric from Republican candidates and he's gone nuts

05:16 And he just went wacky over it. And we know that for sure because we heard some unnamed source claim that a law enforcement officer heard the guy mutter something under his breath like baby parts. This has never been confirmed, but everyone accepts it as true It has never been confirmed But when it comes to the San Bernardino shooting There's a lot of apprehension to say, well let me think about this. Seems like the guys or the guy, the lady whoever was involved it seems like they might be terrorists if you look at all the evidence if you look at all the pieces put together but they're not saying that no one will come out and say oh this is obviously terrorism. No, of course its not terrorism, its gun control

06:00 This is a... the reason this happened is because guns are too easily available. Well, I'm just gonna stay on this tip for a second Why is it that? Okay, I'll give you my quick summary of what I think might have happened and then I've got to work backwards And I want to hear your deconstruction where you have going This probably was some form of radicalized cell whoever radicalizes them who whatever their front is unimportant I think what may have happened is there was an operation planned and then this guy went to his office party, had gotten into some kind of fight. And he went back home said let's go kick these motherfuckers ass now! I'm sick and tired of these jabronis. It was a terrorist set up... ...and i based that on a strange press conference by the brother-in-law of this dude Saeed Farooq which was staged by

06:56 care. Yeah, everybody's in care. The Council on American Islamic Relations here is his speech I mean i am really here on behalf of my family to for the victims it's unbelievable what happened I'm very sad like deeply sad and shocked something like this happened here in my community I love this country I'm living in this community for a long time but something like this happened here And on behalf of my family, we all are shocked and very sorry for what happened. I mean you know we all are just completely shocked We have no idea that something this could happen. Shocked I say!

07:37 That's exactly why I'm here to you know tell all of you on behalf of my family that how sad we are How sad we are the people lost somebody lost husband and wife yeah? And he goes on and on so just care staging. That is a red flag for me yes, and then I love this By the way, I want to back you up a little bit because the concept that These guys were in his cell ready to do some damage at some point And then they just decided to go off script. Well, the president actually categorizes it differently Did you hear? No you probably didn't finish your thought on the script well I was just gonna say they went off script and that's why care had to jump in and do all kinds of damage control right this was a Damage control press release here's the first conference. Here's the president with fantasies of glory who are very savvy when it comes to social media

08:33 and are able to infiltrate the minds of not just Iraqis or Syrians, but disaffected individuals around the world. And when they activate those individuals... Those individuals can do a lot of damage." What is this? Manchurian candidate time?! When was that? Because that wasn't recent. No this was about a week ago. Because if you want to hear what he has to say about THIS... Oh I'd love too! It's slightly different story ahead of slip. Nah, I think this is very good By the way by the way yes, by the already complaints in the chat room saying we were all in on Sandy hook being a fake But now we're all in everything being real No no I would say. We're just deconstructing what we have yeah? We're just telling it like it is you don't have any bone to pick or dog in the hunt now this is this morning and

09:29 How much work I do? Well, you did prep! Because I know... No. I got this clip this morning. Ah okay. Uh the because i knew from the CBS reports last night that Nora O'Donnell was scheduled to have a meeting and do an interview with Obama Oh okay While the shooting was in progress Nora works for what outfit She is at The Morning Show with Charlie Rose Ah Nora is the good-looking woman Yeah yeah she's very good Got a lot to say But she's good looking She is, she's very pretty. I think she's the prettiest of the group and so she's in there with Obama here's the intro into it and this is all that this all about. He will describe what he sees as America's biggest challenges Congress is under new pressure to act to prevent mass shootings before traveling to California nor spoke to President Obama at the White House The president said there are things that can be done to stop these attacks We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country

10:27 has no parallel anywhere else in the world. And there's some steps we could take not to... What happened to Paris? ...eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently. Common sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks And, you know for those who are concerned about terrorism some may be aware of the fact that we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes but those same people who we don't allow to fly could go into a store right now in the United States and buy a firearm and there's nothing that we can do to stop them. That's a law that needs to be changed

11:12 Well, as this show goes on I'll play some clips from this particular little episode that happened this morning. Charlie Rose all in on what the president says and they bring Paul Ryan on... Before you move on John, what he said there is interesting for a different reason. A producer sent me...I'm looking forward to it...apparently a law was either just introduced or passed in the House so I am going to look for it will somehow link if you have a concealed carry permit and you are pre-check or clear, any of these other items that will be now annotated on your pre check information which is probably illegal.

12:04 Well, it's tracking is I was saying yeah as this episode continued the two of them Gail Oprah's friend and Charlie Rose jumped all over Paul Ryan about these topics and And Charlie comes actually this you probably might want to get into this right now But since I mentioned like me to do an entremont If you don't want to get into it? I just want to say a couple things. Okay, just to get this my side of this thing course the one thing to note was Obama's concept besides this bullcrap about the no-fly zone thing which is an illegal list as Ryan points out No fly list The no fly list sorry Is Obamas mention of frequency Yes i believe that This Was The Note

12:55 that the six-week cycle is long over, that didn't produce the results intended. We are going to do one of these things once a week, once every two weeks until people get a clue. Because I am going to pass gun laws of some sort while I'm president! The emphasis over and over again when Obama spoke, and then throughout all these other presentations was about frequency. And in fact even when Gayle comes up she brings out this frequency issue the frequency issue is the main thing they're promoting right now and they're gonna prove it to us by creating frequency. Kay do you have a clip? Well I guess I have to go back to these clips again

13:40 Let's start with the unanswered Charlie Rose question. I'm gonna get these clips out of the way, okay? Let's see what do we have? Charlie Rose... Charlie 1 gearing up now this is Charlie getting there's this is just Charlie I don't I didn't leave Paul Ryan stuff in because I'll answer to Paul Ryan questions took him two minutes But Charlie do you have to listen the very beginning? Did you miss the gale the gale and Paul Ryan clip do we need to play that first no No, that comes after okay. All right This is the first thing that happened and then I knew it was I knew the battle was on I said all may I should just push your show half-an-hour listened to this crap but Charlie

14:19 He gears up and he's building up a head of steam, and he starts off by girding his loins. And you can hear it very...at the very beginning... What is the definition of girding your loins? It's just a phrase. Okay. But he's getting geared up, and you could hear at the beginning where he's... Oh boy! Yeah. ...and he gets himself ready. You can hear it in this clip him getting himself ready, then he goes right after Ryan because he's a lousy Republican. Our speaker Paul Ryan is with us now from Capitol Hill. Mr Speaker, good morning. Good morning Charlie. How are you this morning? I'm glad to be getting again. Good. Our speaker Paul Ryan is with us now from Capitol Hill. Mr Speaker, good morning

15:04 Good morning, Charlie. How are you this morning? Good. That was a slur. Well the community is grieving as you know and our nation is asking questions about why and how do we stop this... Why! And we want to hear from you on that but why don't you after you make your speech today call the president say I'm gonna come down Pennsylvania Avenue let's you and I start off and do something about this right now. I'm speaker of the house your president during your fourth quarter and I'm in the beginning of my job as speaker What a loaded question. His answer was, we don't even really know what happened can we wait till the damn investigation's over? Until they have the bodies out of the building The bodies were still in the building last night at midnight when I was watching Well that's one report That was...that was the police chief

15:52 At 10 past midnight my time, so 10-10. 10-10 everybody! In San Bernardino we got 80 degrees It was... that's what he said He said we have not even gotten the bodies out yet That's what he said Well that kind of I know I didn't get that one But you know what? You know whats gonna happen next John? I guarantee within 1 year this facility is going to be burnt to the ground That's right They're gonna destroy it Demolish it just like Sandy Hook Where the bodies are is another issue. Because some of them were taken to one hospital, some taken to another... I have some clips on that where there was a triage set up and then if the bodies are still in the building why didn't they keep the triage during their tour? Cause it's a hoax man! False flag!!

16:38 Yeah, well that's another problem. The hoax... the guys are out there pulling out small minute details and calling everything a hoax and false flag is not helping. Anyway so let's go on Charlie 2. So Charlie still worked up he had that big snort at the beginning ready to go Ryan answers with a very calm answer and trying to because he knows he's in for it. So here's Charlie, Charlie two within Brian actually responds the mental health issue which we know is a common theme among these shootings and that something was just right now I suspect a lot of people would agree with you on that most people agrees on that but here's what the president said And the reason I suggested there might be a conversation between you and the President

17:16 He said we have a no-fly list where people can't get on plane, but these same people whom we do not like We did not allow to fly Could get into a store right now in the United States and buy a firearm And there's nothing we can do to stop them Well, on this particular issue we do have a constitution. Citizens have due process rights and anyone can just be arbitrarily placed upon the no-fly list in fact that's happened quite a bit people have been placed on the no fly list mistakenly innocently so we need to respect due process so when we rushed to act on these things let's make sure that we react accordingly let's make sure that we act according to citizens' rights the Constitution oh and let's make sure that what we do actually solves these problems

18:00 So that is why I think we need to take a pause and see what's happening. This is why we're working on mental health already Alright, so he's got this mental health thing he sticks to. And I noticed that Charlie said get on plane Is this the European sneaking in like go-to hospital? Yeah, I think so He's in hospital It's the BBC! That's their influence Everybody wants to be like the BBC because they're so great Get on plane So Gail...so they start getting into it with the beef and here is Gail going off on him cause she is shaking and she's nervous She's worried sick that someone's gonna rush into the studio and shoot her

18:36 What is it going to take to move the needle in Congress, I guess? It's a frustration. That's what I'm just trying to say Gail. What we're trying to do is find out the facts and make sure that what our response actually addresses the problems without infringing upon the rights of law enforcement. abiding citizens. That's the key here, Gail. But it keeps happening? It keeps happening. We also have citizens who have rights to be protected and again Gail one of the common themes here this is why we're really serious about our mental health legislation because a lot of these people are getting guns who are mentally unstable whoever who should not be getting guns and this is a gap in our laws that we feel needs to be filled

19:15 Look, if you're not outraged when you turn on the TV and see these shootings there's something wrong with you. And so we just want to get it right Gail and we want to make sure that we don't violate a person's rights if they're a law-abiding citizen But can I just say this to you? A mass shooting is described as four or more victims According to ShootingTracker.com Just the fact that we have a ShootingTracker.com I think speaks volumes Since January there have been at least 354 mass shootings in this country You must be frustrated as well. Yeah, I am Gail that's why again i don't want to keep saying the same thing over and over but one of the things we've noticed there are mental health issues here Hey John let me ask you a question because it's okay when they when there is comparison between statistics per so many people in United States X amount are killed by gunfire

20:04 But when you say the frequency is higher, isn't that directly proportionate to how many people there are? Shouldn't you say the percent of- the frequency by percentage? Is this just now a creepy numbers game that's being played. It's a creepy numbers game that's being played Okay That's what I thought Because the idea here is to, for Obama to get this gun legislation through by hook or crook. And the way that you had an entremont I want you play it because there's another issue besides this obvious what they're going to do is step up the frequency of these events Well, I have...I'll do three quickies. So you had Gail freaking out Matt Lauer was doing a pretty good job over there on the Today Show Turned out NBC's justice correspondent Pete Williams he has been talking to his law enforcement sources throughout the night and Pete what are you hearing?

20:55 Well, they say that they still don't know what led Saeed Farooq and his wife to carry out such a brutal and deadly attack. Matt authorities say it was clearly well planned not only were the two heavily armed they also had prepared and brought some homemade bombs at least three of those devices have been found though none of them apparently went off in the attack Federal officials say a check of customs and border protection records shows that Farouk recently traveled to Saudi Arabia, but authorities believe at this point that trip was a religious one. The Hajj or the pilgrimage Muslims are required to make at one point during their lives

21:31 But as for the motive, investigators say they'll look through the couple's computers and other electronic devices looking for clues. They'll carefully examine Farouk's employment records. They'll talk to his co-workers to see if that can shed any light. Authorities say some people who knew Farouk told them his personality began to change six months ago... But this morning, investigators cannot say what this attack was. Was it a workplace dispute that spun so strangely out of control? Was it jihadist-inspired terrorism or was it some combination of the two? Matt... Yeah but Pete I've known you for years and years You're one of the most careful journalists I've ever met Careful journalist What does that even mean? Careful journalist? You have to think at this moment is looking less and less like any kind of simple workplace disputed

22:19 more like the nightmare we've all been fearing. Someone blending into our society and carefully plotting out some kind of attack. Nightmare! It certainly does, and that is why I think that they're so much puzzled by trying to find an explanation. They can't interview the people who were involved in this shooting both of the gunmen are dead-the man and woman. Yeah i'm sorry trigger warning I have a problem it's gun persons I cant hear gun men if theres a woman that's gunned persons, I'm sorry trigger warning. So now they have to see if there is some other indication did they leave some message on social media? Is there something in their computers? No one that they've talked to yet can give an explanation. I also think manhunt is wrong and ConnectBed should be a person hunt very disturbed but very disturbed by these things Oh yeah I bet you are Over on CNN

23:08 They brought in, they were so out of ideas they brought in... Oh CNN was great. Casey Jordan who is a criminologist but she seems more like a gypsy fortune teller. Disgruntled employee and they can have Arabic or Middle Eastern names as well but the key is that from the beginning everything that was reported about him going into this conference room where it was a holiday party which may have been offensive to him It may have been offensive to him. Oh, trigger warning! Please before celebrating a holiday which might have I don't know some religious over undertones then you should have a disclaimer so please if you're if your jihadi don't get all upset about this. The bottom line is the motivation always appeared to be intrinsic not extrinsic. Aha intrinsic? What is extrinsic from out from the outside?

23:58 He was prepared for this. It's almost like he was looking for an excuse to go get the guns, get the female getaway driver. You know, put on his fatigues and let it look like terrorism. So I'm in total agreement that terrorism and disgruntled employee can be a mashup. This can be an amalgam of both! It's a terror mash-up everybody! It could be an amalgam of both. Mash up? I thought it was dead term No no its back. Its the terror...let me see if she gives it full time. I think terror mash-up terrorism and disgruntled employee can be a mashup. This can be an amalgam of both! An amalgam of both? It's a mash-up!

24:40 But I really do think his motive was very intrinsic, it was personal. It was about a grudge and it looks like terrorism and he might like that but it isn't what is about. Oh no! Let's go back to Matt Lauer and get fear put into us. I was just talking to Pete Williams in Washington our justice correspondent are you waking up today to the fear that there may have been a cell albeit a small cell living in plain sight in your community? Again, Matt this is an active investigation. We're leaving that up to the law enforcement to make sure that they conduct it when we find out more information from them They will be releasing that information Mm-hmm

25:21 It's an active investigation of what? The people are dead. I guess it's always say what you want, you know well we don't want to ruin the case. We don't want the jury that be turned and by the way I wanted to mention something before I forget because i've been wanting to say this for a while People always wonder why you know they get these two guys who have been great to capture them Yeah, why kill them? Well, I was thinking and it's not guys trigger warning people it's people Well, guys is actually women refer to women as guys. Good try! Those good try sexist pigs... Don't make me occupy your studio man you hurt my feelings as a guy The cops over time

26:05 Have decided and I think this is the same reason we use drone strikes to instead of picking people up right? Kill them kill Because if you if you injure them or if you do are you like a wing him Oh, why did they shoot him in the legs that has stopped him no No You should cut your cop. You shoot somebody in the leg Yeah He's coming at you with a knife And you don't want to you know kill him so you shoot him in the leg he goes down ambulance takes him in He sues you. He sues the city for being shot in the leg. You don't get sued by a dead man!

26:41 No, we must bomb them. Bomb them and bomb them again! We need to kill them This is the part of the judicial... this is a problem with the judicial If a guy is coming at you with a knife and you shoot him in the leg And he brings a lawsuit for injury because you shot him in the leg A judge, any normal judge in a normal system should just throw the case out But no They do a bunch of lawyers present a bunch of papers to a bunch of judges, many elected they don't know anything about the law and they say ah you know we'll go through that I don't want to deal with this yeah well start it will do a jury trial. So now the cops have gotten the clue because they get in too much trouble so they shoot the guy kill him

27:24 And by the way, and they also have a rationale to say think of the millions and millions of dollars in taxpayer money. It'll save just kill him would have been wasted on this trial I always have to admire The optics of something like this black SUV you know military-grade weaponry fatigues You know bulletproof vest body armor what all the things that are being said yeah, yeah Yeah That thing you know this who does that Blackwater Z feds not jihadists but okay fine

28:03 Ben, of course as always we're looking for one thing when something like this happens and the reports came out very quickly. ...tales of that but again we can tell you that the president has been briefed on what is a mass casualty and mass shooter situation happening now in San Bernardino California The police were able to move in very quickly according to local media reports... Are they using a microphone to record this? This was caught by someone. I'm so sorry for the quality, can you understand it? Can you see that juice? Barely but yes. The police were able to move in very quickly according to local media reports part of the reason for that is very nearby there was a police training exercise which was underway So this call for help goes out immediately and very quickly large number of first responders were on scene

28:55 Coincidence? I think not! And there did happen to be a training exercise close to the area, SWAT team training exercise we're told. That's why so many of these officers were able to make it to the scene so quickly however... That's great! That's just great whenever that happens. You gonna use those clips? I want you to play this one This is the woman who stayed at home discussing the cameras and drills on CNN and then I have a comment after this. Detectors anything like that No, no metal detectors. Do you have any say? I understand that there were alarms going off and that there were drills. I was hearing from a father whose daughter works in the building that you all have been going through drills and I don't know if it was in a case like this or for something else but is that the case? We always do we're I mean where they're very very good about staying on top of fire drill

29:52 drills. We do have what we call active shooter training you do. Yeah, we do. When did that begin? It started last year and I think they're going through the rounds now with that training So active shooter training happening at your workplace and here we have potentially three active shooters at lunchtime on what should have been a normal day. What about cameras in your building? Kristen, do you have cameras throughout your workplace? I don't know. There are people that think we have cameras there aren't cameras...I don't really know

30:41 Okay, now what I got a kick out of is the CNN woman. This is Brooke or whatever her name is yeah, Brooke She says oh you've had active shooter training That's so it's not as though this is like a scam It's oh that's so great then you would be prepared when these three guys showed up I mean, their take on it is you have a no agenda take on everything which indicates skepticism. Or you can have this all in hook in the mouth being dragged to the shore by a fisherman. But Brooke is cute! She never showed her face once in the whole chaotic squad. Oh, okay I'm very familiar with Brooke she's cute So where are we going to be on this? Let's go stay with CNN and uh... The boom-boom guy And CNN lifting coverage This is a good one What are you doing on my beat Dvorak! CNN is my beat man whatcha doin'?

31:35 You were doing other stuff. Okay! Also, according to sources they were using long rifles here's more sound. Long rifle in the center I was just walking down and this lady and a couple others heard shots that i heard from over there but then I started walking you know so then I got into chaos who knows it just boom boom boom boom and you know I'm just right wow right in the middle of it. And she was right behind me. Right behind the building So we're waiting for the bus That's how I transfer because I have a brain disorder so I can't drive So, yeah it's kind of scary. Paul can you plug your phone number into my phone? Hold on for one second. Plugging into my phone... Listen to this groovy Madonna track! Alright. It's just shots and hey you don't know where they're coming from. Okay hold on for one second we're gonna interview a couple people. Okay so local reporters were dipping it out of their coverage I just want to be totally transparent. Stealing their material

32:33 Meanwhile, that guy with the brain damage? He keeps showing up on different reports. Yeah he's great So here is the one that really got this I thought it was one of the best ones This is dad-best local report There's another local report a different one Now this is the guy with the Freemasons cap on No! I love that guy but I didn't get a clip from him Oh no He was, oh he's the one that uh... was texting his son who is inside. Well right and then they I recently got a clip because they had him on the mic and it was like- It was boring but the hat was fantastic! The hat was dynamic And on the subreddit, the Freemason Subreddit

33:11 There was a posting like, looks like I think his name is Lucas or something. Brother Lucas has been showing himself in sad circumstances or something like that but of all things to put on television...of all things! In fact i've never even seen one of those Freemasons hats. I want one. That's a dynamite hat. I want one of those. That's great Alright, here's dad. This is my favorite. What are you recording this with a microphone? Shooting at my work people shot in the office waiting for cops Pray for us

34:11 Are you just making fun, John? You're just making fun of these people. No no this is an important clip This is was this- Is this Dad Best local report ONR Oh I'm sorry that's the wrong one Yeah you know okay Hey it says dad It says dad daughter text pray for us! No I went dad best! Inside the building...I talked to the police there are casualties What did your daughter tell you? She told me that they were, she thought it was a drill because they've been practicing drills. They went outside and they were told to go back in. Oh yeah. Shuttled into her room. Police showed up and they were taken outside thank God

34:55 There weren't more casualties. Did she text or call? She did, she's outside with the fire department right now. Did she text you earlier to tell you that? She just texted me right now And what did she tell you about what she saw and heard? Well...she um...she wasn't too clear, she was shaken up I asked the police lady and they said there were some casualties What did she see I haven't talked to her about that. She's pretty shaken up." What I'm trying to point out here is that this is all dad-daughter. There was lots of dad daughter, it was my daughters in there, my daughters and their one of the clips as my daughter was in there and this guy over here, my buddy his daughter's in there This is part of the scheme to scare the bejeebers out of people about gun control but they've given up They've already gotten the women on their side Women are already frightened, they're frightened to death So let's scare the dads who have daughters

36:07 The daughters are there, and by the way that guy with the pray for one clip? Pray for us clip. There were numerous people that said- Pray for us. That read their text and it said pray for us. Yes Why was every how many people are texting in this all shit going on and you're writing pray for us In fact the dad with his son which wasn't anomaly in the guy with a Mason's hat He even showed his text that said, pray for us. So he said it too! Yes And it's interesting you bring that up because I just read somewhere...I think it might have been... It was a Republican candidate Someone was talking about Mitt Romney and not sure who it was maybe it was Fiorina someone said the reason why Romney had no chance is because he doesn't have any daughters

36:59 And that just stuck in my mind and I was thinking, oh that's interesting. And now you bring this up how the daughter meme is being used? Very interesting! The daughter meme is being used to an extreme and then there was this... ...and this is the CNN My Loved One Is Safe clip nobody says this. The guy's about to say his daughter but he amps it up a notch as though it was rehearsed. They coordinate bus rides and things. They coordinate bus rides for people with disabilities. My loved one is safe, and

37:38 We need to do something. This is crazy, there's just too many shootings Too much bad stuff going on here I mean you hear about it but... Too much bad stuff these shootings are happening far too often what seems to make this different than some of the other shootings we've been covering is the fact that there are three according to police Three different shooters or suspects Yeah and I'll hook right into that another interesting The little tidbit was last night, this thing that I saw a little after midnight my time. The police chief not once but twice read the names of the two deceased apparent actors and spelled their names. This is highly unusual!

38:22 This is not something I've seen during a police press conference. It usually comes... it's either leaked out or it comes much later when there is official word, but and he spelled them out! And this girlfriend, this woman seems to be a ghost. There isn't... Stek who has access to all kinds of databases could not find her in any database so that's troubling And there's something else that is new in this round. And it started a little bit with the Planned Parenthood, apparent Planned Parenthood shooting I don't understand why this hasn't been going on for far longer We're now playing scanner we're playing the police radio

39:07 And this baffles me. Shep did this? Yes, well everyone was doing it and it baffles me so last night you know again I'm hearing things from the scanner So I tuned in to the San Bernardino there were a couple of different...it's all streamed although its also baffling that if your going after terrorists and your just broadcasting out on open unencrypted analog police channels. That you can listen to in Austin? Yeah, I mean and they were giving positions there...in fact it was so nutty! So this is a new version of how they're going to be doing these types of operations um and you cannot tell me that uh that this is normal that you have this type of situation where could-be terrorism or active shooter or whatever you want to call it and you're just broadcasting every manhunt

40:02 you're broadcasting it in the clear, where you are what you're doing. So at eight o'clock I'm watching CNN and on the scanner we have an IED, we found an IED, moving back 50 yards...that didn't show up on CNN until midnight! There's something very strange about the reporting and adding in police radio which of course is not proof of anything It's just a sound file. Who the hell knows where- what's going on or where it's coming from, or what's being said? But it is a new part of the reporting so we can get that extra fear element and something else... Oh! And then I heard...I heard then I should have- I couldn't record actually but then I heard uh yeah we're gonna make way for the DOD guys

40:49 Like really? D.O.D.? Now I don't know if DOD means something different in San Bernardino It might be local Could be local, but if you listen to the news reports everybody's stumbling over the same obvious thing You know ambulance fire trucks Yeah this is recorded with a microphone by the way And you can see some of the unmarked cars that are going through They've shut it off obviously for anybody like us or our locals We're moving out of the way to let people buy In fact as we turn the corner here But you can see massive police presence here Oops, massive military presence is what he wanted to say but he said police presence. Okay? And as you can see they have boxed him in with large tactical units similar to the Bearcat that was used in Colorado Springs heavily armored vehicles With government at various positions safe positions around those vehicles and now a tactical unit Is making an approach with multiple Soldiers so I should say soldiers multiple multiple police officers It's okay You can say soldiers because that's what they look like

41:44 This is almost now being said. It reminds me of a clip I don't think I took it let me see if i have it but there was a kid this was on, I got this off online... It could have been BOD or something like bomb ordnance disposal that's probably what it was but still you're hearing the news reports talking about military soldiers yeah? You cannot deny that's what it looks like There was.. anyway ill give you the clip A guy, a kid with sunglasses on sitting on his hood in a traffic jam at the point where they shot those...at the area where they shot up the Ford Explorer was what it looked like. Denali. It wasn't a Denali? It was a Yukon! No it wasn't that's why they kept reporting but if you look at it, it wasn't a Yukon. Yukons are huge.

42:40 Whatever it was they shot it up and this kid sitting there. He says yeah, he's just yeah They told us we had to turn around he says so who told you to turn around? He says that detective and he pointed at someone I never turned the camera on him And the guy that reporter goes That's a detective? And I wondered what he would show us this guy mean was he in military uniform, was he in plain clothes, was the end jogging uniform. I have no idea but it just the way that guy responded was just like wow that's kind of interesting I want to stick with just a couple more clips since I collect them, more of this daughter emphasis. Here's another one... This is another daughter who saw nothing! This is the clip, Another Daughter Saw Nothing. Someone had come in and started shooting And they ran into an office and she was hiding with some other people

43:37 And our friend's daughter is in there too, and she texted me. So they're both hiding as we speak. That's all I know. Is she still hearing gunshots? She didn't say anything about gunshots but someone must have told her because she never said she heard gunshots but somehow she knew that 10 to 20 people were shot. She didn't hear anything, she didn't see anything. But it's 10 to 20? They also had a number I have one clip but don't think its necessary to play of the dads with their daughters again dad and daughter and the dad is in tears

44:20 I'm telling you, this was outrageous. Outrageous propaganda! Dad's in tears because oh i'm so glad my daughter is safe and I'm thinking well why are we... Is there nobody but it sounds like the place is filled with young women. It sounds like a great place to work. Well I like your analysis that this is we're now going to focus on frequency and of course that is a bogative number unless presented in the context of scale and percentages And that's really the thing to focus on in general with these events, is not whether it was a false flag or not. I have to say this has Sandy Hook hallmark all over it. It has a lot of Sandy Hook elements and I have two clips that kind of indicate that. Okay

45:08 Try this one. This is the two hospital lot now Here's the thing there were seven they're always the same numbers that which is really unusual 14 and 17,14 and 17, 14 killed 17 wounded injured Where are these people? Now everyone kept saying that there's the Loma Linda Hospital nearby And it turns out there was another little hospital in the dead a hospital took five people Loma Linda according to all reports took four And let me see if I think have two clips. One of them talks about the woman who is at the hospital discussing... I have a genitive to hospital lockdown

45:50 What else? Oh, a late report on Loma Linda. Yeah, Loma Linda that's play that one first thing that we learned at the news conference here is we got an update on exactly the number of victims that they took in here at the hospital They took in five adult victims and at this point two of them are in critical but stable condition And two are in fair condition also one is still being assessed now they have set up an area for obviously the ambulances to come in. They've taken down some of the tents that were there earlier, but they've also set up a room for families to come here and to wait and to hear about their loved ones that are in this hospital. And right now everyone in this community is wondering how something like this could happen at a place that takes care of so many people in need?

46:33 Yeah, they love that. They leverage that now so here's an eyewitness this guy was in a car wreck and He was at the Loma Linda hospital I don't know what happened to the other 12 people by the way The other hospitals seem to have three or four people So there's a bunch of missing injured people they can't account for and they never when they had the triage set up They never brought anybody out In fact, I have one just like Sandy Hook It's looking a little like that, especially when you hear this one. This is the two hospital lockdown and curtains clip at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center police were in riot gear as a lockdown was in place and victims family members were forced to wait outside

47:14 At Loma Linda University Medical Center, this man says he was left alone in the emergency room after a car crash Wednesday morning while nurses scrambled to work on the flood of people injured in the shooting. The people that were more seriously injured were pretty much kept in...in the shadows pretty much They had curtains covering them that way no one could see them They had curtains covering so no one could see them? And according to other reports there's only four Maybe there is nothing to see Well, getting very screwy. This whole business of they left the bodies in there and no one's been identified except the two who were killed and then their names were spelled out verbatim... Even the bodies in there is a I think script error because that's why they have to rubbleize the place guarantee this places rubbleized within a year them will know well here let's play this one

48:15 I got too many clips. They gotta play some of them. Yeah, okay? I'd love to get in here whenever you're ready Okay, well let me just do this because this would be good on Jermon okay So they bring in This is always suspicious your aunt you watching Fox and they bring in Harridge Oh Catherine Harris the pixie girl yeah the spy All right, okay now we're now you have my attention a little player Let's see where she Herridge and tidbits. Couple of tidbits. Very much involved with this, and our Catherine Heritage Works Intelligence for us live in Washington. No kidding! Catherine anything to add? What's that electronic sound did you hear that the connection was bad listen it sounded like they were juicing up her brain or something no seriously listen to it again sounds like they're juicing up her brain getting ready very much involved with this and our Catherine Heritage Works intelligence for us live in Washington Catherine anything to add

49:14 They're tasing her, John. Or she was with us. Catherine here... I'm back. Sorry. Please go ahead. I got tased. Okay so look Shepard what we have here unfolding in Washington unfortunately is a carbon copy of what we saw with this Colorado shooting the president has been briefed by his White House counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monaco that is standard practice- Hold on a second! She said this is a carbon copy? I listened to this a couple of times and I thought what you're thinking. But what she's really saying... Well, do we want to have her say it or do you want to preview it? Well, I'm going to give you the insight so people don't get mixed up. What she was referring to is the carbon copy of the reaction in Washington.

49:54 A series of steps that were taken, identical to the other one. Which of course if we're thinking along the same lines here yes it would be identical because this is part of this step up but anyway you can play it over. Hey John so look... Did I say look? No not you! Very much involved with this and our Catherine Herridge works intelligence for us live in Washington. Catherine anything to add? It's crazy. Of course she was with us, Catherine Haley. I'm back sorry. Little tease. Just on the phone okay so look Shepard what we have here unfolding in Washington unfortunately is a carbon copy of what we saw with this Colorado shooting the president has been briefed by his White House counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monaco that is standard practice and he will continue to receive regular updates same pattern with

50:42 of in effect, a standing by to assist when that's necessary. The FBI has staged—that means that they are now sort of in the area with their heavy equipment if they're needed on the scene and the ATF has satellite office as well as a field office in Riverside and San Bernardino so they are on the scene but at this point um...they are not taking on typical ATF role

51:20 because this is clearly not contained. Just a final point, DHS officials said to me based on the recent briefing that there was no specific or credible threat to this area at the time. We don't know what it is at that point but that's an important piece of information and they also indicated while the suspect or suspects fled the scene or were able to get away from the scene they emphasized that this is an area very thick with cameras and they were confident that there was an image of that SUV Shepard. Thick with cameras now this brings to light Eric the shillster. This was an NSA headquarters Boy, does he get this from watching alias too much at NSA or some big government intelligence operation posing as an inner? You know some sort of other With a front it's a front

52:06 And she goes on with the cameras. I don't know how she'd know that, that one woman as you know earlier was interviewed that we had a clip of and said she didn't know any cameras. There's other people who say yeah there are a lot of cameras but no cameras then there is no evidence they were cameras or...I mean there are a couple doofuses that i have a clip of again like your doofus that start making stuff up as it go along But why dont'cha take some clips? Well since Jay Johnson was brought up But and these did these guys travel to the he go to Saudi Arabia or Qatar gutter gutter I don't know And the only reason I bring that up is because there was a in the Doha news There was a release about presents gifts given to Jed Johnson by Qatari officials including totaling, I should say $170,000 including What is it?

53:03 Oh no, it was 170 total. Johnson's family was given some $44,000 in gifts including a $15,700 Cartier platinum bracelet and a 6600 Rolex watch and the Qatari Attorney General Ali bin Fattah Al-Mahri also gave both Johnson's daughter and wife 3200 gold Cartier necklaces pendants engraved with their initials and the word love What? Yeah. He can't take this! Let me see, I guess he did Well this is a scandal Well US government officials are not allowed to keep most valuable gifts given to them on the job but according to the disclosure they accept some offerings to quote avoid embarrassment to the donor and the U.S. Government Oh there you go Don't want to embarrass everybody Yes i have to take your bribe because they would embarass you if don't want to embarrass anybody Now as you know on The No Agenda Show

54:02 We have no agenda. We are completely open and I certainly am open to any theory, anything that needs to be followed up and if you take the stance that this was some kind of an operation... ...and that the elites in The New World Order always leave clues for us Of course we've seen clues about 9-11 in The Matrix You remember that? The passports, it shows 9-11 2001. Yeah, said Neal's passport. The Simpsons... There are all kinds of things!

54:44 If we connect this particular event with Paris, it's very interesting and I just want to bring it up. Just wanted to put it out there because the lyrics are quite interesting The band that was in the hall performing when most people were killed there in Paris is The Eagles of Death Metal And they have a song which is titled San Bernardino Sunburn. So they were in Paris, they got shot up and now they have this single So I'm gonna forward ahead a little bit to another part of the song again This is San Bernardino and we're going to San Bernardino. We're headed out to a girlfriend who's a swinger? Yes, and We're heading to San Bernardino yes, okay, and then And then we'll hit Texas stop in Amarillo

55:47 Then we'll stop over in Dallas. So I'm calling Amarillo, Texas and Dallas, Texas as the next targets! Well they're good targets...Amarillo not so much. Yeah why not? Everyone knows Amarillo. Yeah I guess they do. Yeah so iIm just saying if this is one of those little clues that they like to leave around for us....we got you boys. We got ya Message received the memos will be flying after this show message received And I will say I like those Eagles of death metal. That's a pretty good jam It's a little old-fashioned It it's a very Norman Greenbaum type of song yes Exactly what it is rip off rip off, I tell you let's play

56:38 Well, actually I got a couple more clips on this and then we move on if we want to. Yeah sure but... But i think we should maybe take a small welcoming break well in that case I'd like to say thank you very much for your courage and in the morning to you John Sui! Where the sea stands for clips recorded with my microphone Dvorak And in the morning to you mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships to see boots on the ground feed The air subs and the water and all the names of nights out there in the morning to our artistes In particular I'd like to say in the morning to Ponal geek And relatively new pono geek to the no agenda artiste family. He did actually funny Did a lot of stuff in the past we haven't really used it have we know him? We use it he's reminding me of JJ Martin JJ Yeah, I worked for about a year and then all of a sudden became the rage

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1:13:11 This is the first report, this is a... what's this word on here? It's all smeared. Something uh first report with stretchers I think it was another one. I have first report from Scott Pelly is what I have No, no but that I want to play next. It's down a little bit this one says something it's all muddled and says Marcos or something AG for... Oh yeah and you wonder why sometimes pull the wrong clip? I'm ready! You're telling me that your wife is in there still? She just got out of the building right now What did she see? She said the guy shot came in next to her office and I guess started shooting

1:13:49 They locked themselves in her office. They seen bodies on the floor and she said right now, ambulance are taking people out in stretchers That is the first report we've had from inside the building that's Marcos Aguilera describing what his wife told him about what she saw in the office building Okay They're pulling, this was like right at the beginning they got stretchers in there and they're pulling people out? No I don't think that's true at all. Maybe that was the drill part of it where they were pulling people out on stretchers And here is actually the first report that i picked up off a CBS and this is Scott Pellio by the way should not be doing these sorts of things he's not that good at it Number is sure to change as we learn more and discover exactly

1:14:38 What has occurred there in the in the next several hours? The freeway has been blocked off entirely In front of this building where I'm really the fire department Has set up a triage area to treat the wounded Jan Crawford reported a moment ago that the wounded are already en route to the Loma Linda University Medical Center We do not have any information on on any conditions of those people who've apparently been wounded. We do not know whether there are any fatalities." You know, everyone's trying to be Dan Rather! He sounded just like Dan Rather reporting on JFK being shot. This is what we know at this hour...we do not have...it's like everyone's doing Dan Rather

1:15:26 I never thought about it, but you're probably right. Well, I thought that clip had what i was looking for which was his mention of long guns. Now, you heard this on and off... Do you remember the last time or actually the first time we heard the phrase long guns? And I believe the last time it was used this frequently In a pirate movie matey bring out the long guns! Nope Sandy Hook Okay. Well, let's start with the definitions here. A gun is a gun it doesn't have rifling these were and by the way they weren't AK-47s everyone keeps saying AK 47s that there are reports that finally came out this morning these are M16s yeah They're 223s you know as if that shoots horrible long guns

1:16:21 But, and long gun. These are rifles! They're rifles you get if they say an assault rifle is fine but there are rifles they're rifling in the barrel it's a different animal than a gun which has no rifling it's like a pistol or shotgun And it's a different, you know... So why are you calling them long guns? Because the word gun is what we're trying to do. Ah! We want gun not rifle of course. Gun is the word that's operative word so these guys weren't using pistols were trying to get some laws against pistols right we gonna do call them guns column long guns yeah Well, never let any good crisis go to waste. I'm telling you this is outrageous these memes about the daughters The long guns Okay The frequency Then i'm gonna move us on and we'll do the exact same thing with the Planned Parenthood shooting Is that okay? Sure Alright

1:17:12 And this has kind of been pushed to the background, so I'm talking now two days ago when this was top of the news before. There you go. The frequency is increasing, so we'll never really get to fully analyze anything because just when we're kinda sure what's gonna happen maybe the frequency will kick in and the six-week cycle turns into six cycles per week. Howard Glassman I think that this is working better. Mike Long Oh it's much better because no one has any time... Howard Glassman This is Comey. Comeys' smarter guy than the other guy. Mike Long He is smarter. So we have, so here is the facts as we know them about. We don't even know if the Planned Parenthood shooting started in Planned Parenthood now. We don't know anything that... The main point that came out which is still I think the guy's well not sure when he's being arraigned but

1:17:58 But we only have the rumor that someone heard a law enforcement officer say, the guy muttered under his breath baby parts. So unlike you know the San Bernardino shooting which has a lot of terrorism memes in there Which we just won't call terrorism immediately this same day Planned Parenthood came out with a statement saying, you know this is nuts we can't have all this. This is always happening we're being targeted and they rolled out everybody John! Everybody was rolled out and you can't blame them considering that they got so harassed by politicians So harassed by the rhetoric which we need to talk about what rhetoric means

1:18:45 that they're striking back at Republicans. But it's in a way that is, it's a big shut up slave moment huge shut up slave I don't know how many how much legs it's going to get because of the frequency now but let us start with and they rolled out everybody they could including Cecile But first we have Vicki Coart. She is the CEO of the Colorado Planned Parenthood Operation and she's got her talking point, very interesting woman to look at beautiful gray hair you know she can tell she was a...she still is stunning to look at um it's kind of like Mimi, Mimi has this beautiful gray hair and just like it's a beautiful look I love it when Mimi has it tied back in that huge ponytail. Is she still doing that? No Oh too bad! I liked that. She hasn't gone short has she

1:19:33 No. I want to save height. Okay, here we go Vicki cohort. I want to move back to this idea of domestic terrorism again you're being cautious about now play it now We need to keep that in mind they desperately want this to be labeled as terrorism Domestic terrorism which has a very specific legal definition which this could totally fall into but it's important then we can have you know, it's a whole different level of prosecution and fear pretty much. What the suspect may or may not have said but you have said in a statement that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorists Extremist? You do know what they're talking about here don't you John? Yeah Tea Party! Yeah, Donald Trump! We've experienced so much

1:20:24 hateful language, hateful speech. Such a negative environment has been created around the work that Planned Parenthood does around the idea of safe and legal abortion and we've seen that across the country from all sorts of speakers in the last few months I can't believe this isn't contributing to some folks mentally unwell or not, thinking that it's okay to target Planned Parenthood or to target abortion providers. Are you talking about members of Congress? I think politicians have been in that conversation

1:21:05 conversation, and I mean you know that the airwaves are full of anti-abortion language of anti Planned Parenthood accusations much of which is false in nature And we... Oh, that's a great line. Much of which is false in nature doesn't mean it's factually false. It's false and this is a good one. Accusations much of which is false in nature and she's up talking to false in nature. This is a 66 year old woman stop the false in nature? False in nature. And we at Planned Parenthood are first and foremost a health care provider. We provide life saving

1:21:52 services to all kinds of folks, men and women across our communities. And the tirades against Planned Parenthood in the last few months have really been over the top." Okay so the idea here is that speech this type of speech from but of course only Republican candidates It's going to be equated to yelling fire in a crowded theater. This is what they are pushing for, to make people shut up. Anderson Pooper to the rescue! Like other Planned Parenthood clinics this one in Colorado Springs provides a range of health care services to women including abortions and as we said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well as anti-abortion... This has not been proven!!!

1:22:34 anti-government views. I didn't hear any of that he also had anti government, anti abortion views did you hear any of this? No it came out of Poopers butthole said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well just listen again they are saying is if they have some proof this is This is not journalism. He should have thrown in an alleged or something, or supposedly anything but this! Yes, the alleged would at least gotten past your complaining. The New York Times would have fired someone who allowed that to go to print or they should have, maybe they don't anymore. Other Planned Parenthood clinics this one in Colorado Springs provides a range of health care services to women including abortions and as we said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well as anti-abortion anti government views hmm new to me! The attack comes as abortion has once again become a white hot issue on the campaign trail fueled in part by controversial videos made by an anti-abortion group about Planned Parenthood it is really disturbing to see

1:21:52 services to all kinds of folks, men and women across our communities. And the tirades against Planned Parenthood in the last few months have really been over the top." Okay so the idea here is that speech this type of speech from but of course only Republican candidates It's going to be equated to yelling fire in a crowded theater. This is what they are pushing for, to make people shut up. Anderson Pooper to the rescue! Like other Planned Parenthood clinics this one in Colorado Springs provides a range of health care services to women including abortions and as we said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well as anti-abortion... This has not been proven!!!

1:22:34 anti-government views. I didn't hear any of that he also had anti government, anti abortion views did you hear any of this? No it came out of Poopers butthole said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well just listen again they are saying is if they have some proof this is This is not journalism. He should have thrown in an alleged or something, or supposedly anything but this! Yes, the alleged would at least gotten past your complaining. The New York Times would have fired someone who allowed that to go to print or they should have, maybe they don't anymore. Other Planned Parenthood clinics this one in Colorado Springs provides a range of health care services to women including abortions and as we said the suspect mentioned baby parts to investigators as well as anti-abortion anti government views hmm new to me! The attack comes as abortion has once again become a white hot issue on the campaign trail fueled in part by controversial videos made by an anti-abortion group about Planned Parenthood it is really disturbing to see

1:23:37 hateful rhetoric that this is to see a lot of this. Lee who? Oh, yes I love this woman. Oh my is this a woman or what? This is a great lady She just looks like she's great and it's too bad. She's working for those guys. It's been Talked about both about Planned Parenthood about the women who come to us about the doctors who provide health care It's very hard to see these kind of violent incidents that I think sometimes this rhetoric fuels. What is rhetoric, John? What is the definition of rhetoric? Well, rhetoric... The definition of rhetoric has changed over the years and it's actually got a lot of definitions

1:24:15 In the classic sense, rhetoric always referred to...it could actually refer to oratory and it could refer to how do you use the language properly. And there used to be courses in the major schools on rhetoric courses you'd take so you could be, you know, you have the ability to speak properly and write properly and argue properly as part of it. That is the old-fashioned definition. Today's definition It's just a use of, using exaggerations and hyperbole. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines one the art of speaking or writing effectively the study of principles and rules of competence...the skill in effective use of speech in verbal communication. In 1800s that would be true right? Well I always like to look at the Wikipedia

1:25:07 Or when you just type in rhetoric definition to Google, they give you the definition which I'm seeing more and more people posting as okay this is what the word means. But that's not necessarily from an approved and authorized dictionary source. According to Google, rhetoric the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques So, I guess she means a form of lying in this case. Rhetoric means lying. I think they're talking about the modern definition and in fact I just looked it up is in dictionary dot com which does a pretty good job of this by the way. And number one current definition in writing or speech talking or writing The undue use of exaggeration or display bombast! And should we use dictionary dot com from now on as the official no agenda word source?

1:25:59 I like it. Okay, to that point you said earlier today You said hateful rhetoric and words and harassment of doctors and harassment of women going health centers have real implications And you've said the quote that you've never seen the kind of rhetoric that we were seeing from presidential candidates Do you directly link? The rhetoric that your thing you're hearing from presidential candidates to what happened well i can't of course i can't directly link at Anderson but i do think that Everyone in public office, people who are leaders in this country have a responsibility to think about the words they use, language they use and possible repercussions. Mm-hmm don't you love that?

1:26:40 All right words matter be careful you say it's like yelling fire in a bin of theater now We go to the entertainment portion of CNN Larry Wilmore has this talk show This is where does guy come from from Larry Wilmore Larry Wilmores talk sure I believe is on comedy central. Oh, I'm sorry Yes You're right and why am I saying seen and comedy Central he used to be one of the bit players on the John Stewart Show okay? Well, and let's listen in. No more baby parts Okay now this could be excused as just a nut uttering some crazy thing but that That sounds very specific. No more baby parts I mean, almost as if it was served up in a nice cold pitcher of Fox and their friends Kool-Aid Selling the body parts of aborted babies They are taking babies apart to harvest its brain Baby parts Baby parts Baby parts Little baby parts Rip up their body parts and sell them like they're parts to a Buick A dead baby's head

1:27:36 I love hugs. Isn't that great? Dead babies hit Buick parts! Okay, so let's review since the summer Fox and the GOP ramped up their rhetoric about baby body parts being sold at Planned Parenthood The Kool-Aid Cut to a guy shoots up for Planned Parenthood then rants about baby parts Now you guys know what Occam's razor is right? The simplest explanation is probably the correct one So do I feel comfortable saying that he was at least partially motivated by the rights demonization of Planned Parenthood? Oh yeah Thank you Kool-Aid man. All right, so he's just going all in and yeah Occam's razor would be we have no idea what he said and you're full of crap that will be Occam's razor. Occams razor would be the guy was nuts but in other words that's used specifically to call out conspiracy theorists now let's go over to another EVP on the rhetoric of Planned Parenthood it was unrealistic and most people

1:28:33 would say that the more that people are out there demonizing, saying offensive and untrue things about an organization calling us outlandish names and making really obscene charges that are not true. The more that people even if they're mentally unstable can then decide they're being asked to take action And of course we need to be asking why people who perhaps have mental illness are being allowed access to AK-47s, to terrorize not just health centers but theaters and schools. And not asking why those groups and organizations in places have to be significantly fortified." And they are significantly fortified there's a lot of cameras in Every Planned Parenthood we haven't seen any of that footage either now Washington Post

1:29:27 They wanted an AK-47. Why does it always have to be an AK-47? That's a leftover from the F Putin meme It's ridiculous, yes! And nobody even uses that. The AK-74 is what they'd use if it was using that gun at all The newspaper that desperately wants to become the new paper of record, the Washington Post... and they're trying so hard Well this not gonna work with Ruth Marcus Are you familiar with Ruth Marker? She seems like an old... No, I'm going to be in a minute. Yeah she seems like an old school hardened hard ass hard nose journalist and this is a journalist! She writes for the Washington Post they want to be the paper of record and this is what they do?! The Republican candidates have been very very quiet about this shooting this horrible shooting for an obvious reason which is

1:30:20 They have been part of the inflamed and inflammatory rhetoric about Planned Parenthood, about the sale of baby parts. About dismembering live babies which is not accurate and not what was shown on the videos. And that when you use inflammatory rhetoric you inflame people. No! Write that down, John. If you use inflammatory... So are these people spontaneously combusting? Into flames?! That... if you use inflammatory rhetoric, you inflame people and I think we don't know exactly what this shooter was all about. I think it is a fair conclusion especially based on his mentioning of no more baby parts Which is not confirmed Washington Post future paper of record. Liar!

1:31:09 Alleged mentioning of no more baby parts. Oh, she said alleged she slipped in alleged okay That's this kind of rhetoric that helped create this environment So is it what the shooter says, even though he may be deranged that you think has a direct link correlation? Huh. What's this guy yelling at her? Well it's on the script therefore we have to yell at him. Rhetoric has been all about because if that's the formula there have been a lot of people who said some pretty outrageous things that you can't really tie to the national discourse. Well let me make myself clear people who are deranged

1:31:44 Let me make my, what is she running for office? Let me make myself clear. Yeah. And then she turned invisible. Look her up, will you? I want to know what's she doing over there. Give me your name again. Ruth Marcus are not responsible for their own behavior. So certainly candidates are not responsible for the behavior of deranged people however, when you exaggerate the rhetoric When you accuse Planned Parenthood of doing things that it was not doing he helped create a climate Say what it was doing

1:32:20 Yeah, it was doing it. Well this is their chance you see they get to strike back. See what you did? You killed people! ...things that it was not doing... you help create a climate where these deranged people have an outlet for their derangement and I think it does play a role It's not THE cause but it is part of the environment that helps create this thing All lawmakers and all politicians have a responsibility to keep the discourse civil and to keep it accurate. Shut up, slave! And that is not what's going on with the Planned Parenthood debate in my view. Okay did you look her up?

1:33:00 She's a lawyer, Harvard Law School. She writes commentaries in the Washington Post so you can't use that argument. You're right I can't do that. I didn't realize that she was an op-ed writer. Okay all right i didn't realize but still on message as is the president with respect to Planned Parenthood obviously my heart goes out to the families of those impacted Nancy I say this every time we've got one of these mass shootings. This just doesn't happen in other countries. Yeah, it does! Paris... Norway... Denmark... Holland... England... Switzerland... Whether in the United States or with friends and allies like France and we devote enormous resources to rooting out networks

1:34:09 Eyes boring me now shut up. I'm bored he's boring He's boring now when I hear him say the same spiel, and he's using it It's almost a word for word is always ads at least with not this frequency Did you say that here frequency? No on that one he didn't but I'm telling ya yeah Yeah, but I don't think he does it on this one This is before this is before the free candy for somebody clued him in oh I think we have two more clips. The undercover recordings set off a firestorm with many calling to defund Planned Parenthood some of the loudest voices Republican candidates for president candidate Mike Huckabee told a radio host it's the worst thing he seen since Nazi Germany at CNN's GOP debate in September more anger-filled rhetoric an impassioned Carly Fiorina watch a fully formed fetus all

1:34:59 on the table, its heart beating. Its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain." Goodbye Carly. Goodbye Carly. Goodbye Carly. Trouble is in this case that wasn't video of an aborted fetus but a stillborn child She's correct! That is exactly what is true So Carly just saw it, but she was wrong. She likes to exaggerate everything. No, this inflamed rhetoric. The company's done quite well! We're making plenty of money! told CNN that while he does believe Planned Parenthood sold fetal tissue, he did get creative with the video. Admitting that it was edited a critical detail that seemed to be lost on all of the GOP candidates. Following shooting at the Colorado Planned Parenthood Clinic, the executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America

1:35:54 had strong words for Republican critics, writing... Outstanding, the final one because we got to wrap it up. There's nothing better than being Cecile Richards and being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC because she might as well just ask the question then jump through the camera go to the other side and answer the question This is not an interview. The political parties have been pretty well divided by wedge issues, social issues including abortion rights for many years now we've seen this in so many cycles but it does seem now as though the divide is even more pronounced than in the past

1:36:43 I've never seen the kind of rhetoric that we are seeing from presidential candidates, that are demeaning not only Planned Parenthood but women who go to Planned Parenthood. Doctors at Planned Parenthood even the fact that there is safe and legal abortion in America. I do think this political season is as toxic as I have ever seen. And again, an extraordinary thing what we've seen Andrea over the last few months is as these attacks have escalated on health centers and on Planned Parenthood The support of Planned Parenthood has only grown. Hundreds of thousands of new supporters have joined Planned Parenthood because they are now realizing that access to basic health care, not only safe and legal abortion but other preventive care that we provide is actually at risk in America

1:37:27 Where do we stand with the defunding issue in Congress because of the... Watch her not answer the question. The undercover videos, the fetal tissue issue which became so toxic. The fetal tissue issue! Hi, made another run! Toxic. Well as I think you know, Planned Parenthood's full of it. Wow did she just editorialize there huh? It's so toxic It's so toxic. This is a big meme word, it's so toxic the rhetoric is toxic. So toxic. Well as I think you know Planned Parenthood has fully cooperated with Congress and we've provided tens of thousands of pages of documents. I spent five hours in front of a congressional committee We are fully cooperative they have found zero evidence of any wrongdoing at Planned Parenthood. We now have a record

1:38:11 committees by this US House of Representatives trying to investigate Planned Parenthood. I frankly think that what I wish Congress would spend their time on is thinking about how to get more women in this country health care that's affordable and accessible, the kind that we provide nearly three million people every single year. Wrap it up! Can you respond to the continuing rhetoric about selling baby parts? Absolutely. Andrea, I mean we have been very clear there are only a handful of centers in the country that allow women to donate fetal tissue There is no profit involved. There was nothing like that Mm-hmm they actually changed their their processes based upon this That's not reported anywhere, but it's not they change to not take any money at all No, no fees know nothing just to hand it out so and then you should go the other way

1:39:02 Jack up the price. Put a fee list down." And then when somebody comes along, they can say here's the fee list you talk to the paper Anyways, so yeah by the way I thought it was excellent of you to begin by pointing out the word and usage of the word rhetoric. And then as because we did the definition skit all we hear is that word now. Oh yeah. This will be one of those words that people out there will hear and they go oh no agenda Yeah, oh yeah you're right rhetoric. Rhetoric! Oh no agenda. Rhetoric! No agenda. Rhetoric! I forgot to donate no agenda. Rhetoric. Toxic rhetoric toxic rhetoric. Donate no agenda. Toxic rhetoric all right well of course we uh there's no way to escape it we have the big COP 21 the big climate conference happening in uh gay paris it's not even in Paris it's le bourget which is

1:39:59 where they always have the Paris Air Show. It's not real, it's an airport pretty much Le Bourget. Yeah it's up as north. They don't have a lot of big facilities in Paris? No! Le Bourget is the convention place. The joke... I always thought this was interesting In most of Europe, compared to like the Las Vegas Convention Center or any city in the country of the United States we have like Moscone in San Francisco. There's a Los Angeles operation there is the Javits Center. There's nothing like those things anywhere in Europe for By comparison, there's a few little centers that are big enough to hold this book fair. But there is nothing like Las Vegas for example. Some people fly in from all over the world to go an event at Las Vegas

1:40:44 And Le Bourget is great because everyone can land their plane there. Yeah, you can land your private jets... Those carbon-producing jets will be landed in place of the park. Let's open up the gate then since we're all here now. Here we are ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Climate Gates! 2015 COP21 in gay Paris! Here's the President We all know why he's there, we all know what's going on, we all know the connection The connection was made very early on by the douche knuckle from the New York Times, Thomas Friedman who did a series about the Earth and how we're all going to die. And he was the first one to say climate change is responsible for terrorism and the president followed his lead In Paris today President Obama warned that the world is fast approaching the hour when it will be too late to save the planet from climate change

1:41:41 Before the unprecedented global summit meeting, Mr. Obama acknowledged the threat of terrorism placing a tribute at one of the scenes in recent attacks Then he told 151 heads of state and government that a deal to cut carbon emissions would be an act of defiance against terror And our buddy Bill Nye The Crazy Science Guy is now The Climate Guy He was on the HuffPost, HuffPost Live. This one kind of went viral. It's very reasonable that the recent trouble in Paris is a result of climate change. Okay! That's very reasonable. Very reasonable. Yes! I can think of nothing more reasonable than this water shortage de-explanation... Well let's listen to him he will tell us how it works

1:42:24 It's very reasonable that the recent trouble in Paris is a result of climate change. This water shortage in Syria—there is a water shortage in Syria, this is fact-based. Fact! Small and medium farmers have abandoned their farms because there's not enough water, not enough rainfall. And especially the young people who have not grown up there, had their whole lives invested in living off the land. Young people gone to big cities looking for work. There's not enough work for everybody So, the disaffected youths as we say. The young people who don't believe in the system, believe the system's failed. Ah! They're ready to be radicalized Don't believe in the economy get... are more easily engaged and more easily recruited by terrorist organizations And then they end up partway around the world in Paris shooting people Wait a minute they were French nationals you douche There was no one there were no foreigners who did this They were French nationals at least the ones that were killed

1:43:24 So you can make a very reasonable argument that climate change is not that indirectly related to terrorism. It's related to terrorism, so this is just the start of things. The more we let this go on, the more trouble there's going to be. You could say well stamp out the terrorists but if everybody's leaving their farms because of water shortages... That's a little bigger problem. Okay! Well you heard it from Bill Nye must be true Now the president, now I'm very concerned about our president. I don't know if you've noticed this but it looks like he's defeated He has this complete defeated attitude His energy is extremely low although from time to time he picks up a little bit But he's also talking insane stuff

1:44:21 And, you know maybe it's not scripted. Maybe he feels like can go off-script and go kind of do his own thing but when the president... He is always so good that whatever he says he can point to that two years later and say I said exactly that. You look at the wording and think oh crap! He is a lawyer. He understands language So when I heard this, he's losing it. And then something else... This is the first little tidbit of his speech there in Le Bourget. Now the fact of the matter is- Oh my god! The fact of the matter we start off right away are you kidding me? The fact to the matter is there's a reason why You have the largest gathering of world leaders probably In human history Listen to his energy Here in Paris Everybody else has taken climate change really seriously

1:45:15 They think it's a really big problem. It spans political parties, I mean you travel around Europe and you talk to leaders of governments and the opposition And they are arguing about a whole bunch of things One thing they're not arguing about is whether the science of climate change is real and whether or not we have to do something about it So whoever is next president United States if they come in and suggest somehow that that global consensus. Global consensus, John! It's a global consensus... ...global. Not just 99.5% of scientists and experts- Wait a minute! What? We went from 97 to 99.5?!

1:46:07 We've been 97 was a bogus number now. He's jacked it up to 99 point 599 point five ninety nine point five kiss him Point five are yeah, ninety nine point five not just ninety-nine point five percent of scientists and experts But I'm one five climate FM hi doing everybody we're all gonna die another song here on that 9.5 99% World leaders. Oh, who's that one a-hole if there's 100 if there's 150 people D wait if there's 150 people they're world leaders and 99% Yeah is all in that means one point five world leaders yeah wanted to have guys who was the 0.5 er? It's a midget from World leaders think this is really important you can't even do math I said new common core stuff nothing

1:47:07 The President of the United States is gonna need to think this is really important. Alright, so his energy's low and then John he just goes into some crazy stuff. Crazy! I have long believed that the most elegant way to drive innovation and to reduce carbon emissions is... It's almost as though you slowed down the tape. I didn't, this is what I've been noticing he is that he I think he's just defeated then we'll get to that you know but he has nothing everyone's moving ahead without him boots on the ground in Syria working in no-fly zone

1:47:46 put on the sidelines, I think. His energy is the lowest I've ever seen it and he's laughing... It's a real desperation chuckle." Obama-"I have long believed that the most elegant way to drive innovation and reduce carbon emissions is to put a price on them." This is interesting because now we can reverse engineer, but the numbers don't really work for me. You can reverse engineer how much money is going to go into this thing and it's less than I thought and the reasoning behind it is the carbon budget

1:48:29 And if you look at the documentation from the shills, the carbon budget is a total of 750 gigatons of carbon in our lifetimes forever. Of which we've already used 500 so there's only 250 gigatons left in our carbon budget In order to keep that budget in check, because of course things do happen naturally over time. We need to lower the temperature rise to 2 degrees. So now we have a number this is how you can back into it so one tonne of CO2 the average price expected

1:49:06 will be $22. It's kind of a, it's an average of what they believe will be ten dollars to start with and around forty dollars by 2035 or 2025? Or 2035 I'm not sure. Um so a gigaton... To me is uh is that's a million A thousand million tons am I saying that right? It's a thousand billion. A thousand million or billion? Billion! A thousand billion And a billion is a million million Times twenty Seems like a lot of money seems like 20 like seems like 2 trillion two point two trillion. I'm do I have that right? Yeah, don't have a common core so So we can it's going to be a lot of money A lot of money that's going into this and that's when he says put a price on it This is exactly what he means well hold on a second

1:49:59 What's putting a price on it got to do with lowering anything but people just jack up the price and they may pass it on to the consumers whoever these polluters are that their carbon polluters And then you just pay more for your monthly gas bill in this right money just runs into a depression, right? It's exactly. It'll be it'll come in the form of attacks and the tax that has to be paid. So it's all fictional, it's like money itself! It's just fictional random numbers but at least they have numbers that we can now look at So it's see someone else will do the math, but I'm pretty sure it's 2.2 trillion dollars Well all I know is that I'm watching this and two point two trillions not that much nowadays Especially if you listen to the clip I have well they need to finish this before we go away Well, I was gonna say a couple of things I'd love to hear that But first we have to listen to the crazy talk of the president because he's gone off his rocker John completely insane classic

1:50:57 Market failure. He opened up a... Why is it a market failure? Well, it's a market failure because Maurice Strong just died Now Maurice strong was the guy with Al Gore who started the carbon exchange Right and then he rebuked it But this was supposed to be his Paris His client- This is why its in Paris! This was supposed to be his big thing Yeah but isn't he the guy who rebuked all this? Yeah Rebuke schmabook What? It's the way that goes. One textbook, it'll say you know the market is very good about

1:51:36 determining prices and allocating capital towards its most productive use, except there's certain externalities. There are certain things that the market just doesn't count it doesn't price So now he is an economist then he is saying that this a market failure that we have not come up with a price for carbon yet because of some crazy external factors Maybe there is just no market people want to be in but he is not saying that At least not on his own Clean air is an example. Clean water or the converse, dirty water dirtier in this case the carbons that are being sent up originally we didn't have the science to fully understand what? We didn't have the science to fully understand it?! That's not true!

1:52:27 We've had science to understand it since the early 70s when we claimed that we're going into an ice age. Is he saying that was wrong? Because its the same people, John Holdren who are advising him right now but for him to say we didn't... When did we get the science John? When did we get the science? Did the measurements all of a sudden they were good? I don't understand what he's saying. I don't know what he is talking about! He's completely nuts and by the way does he think he's being entertaining to these 150 world leaders?! He's putting him to sleep and I even cut out the pauses in this. The carbons that are being sent up Originally we didn't have the science To fully understand, we do now And if that is the case If you put a price on it then Then the entire market would respond And...the best investments and smartest technologies Would

1:53:25 begin scrubbing effectively our entire economy. But it's difficult and so I think that... Now he is struggling, yeah wait for it! He's struggling now He's he's out of control John. He's lost the plot at this point and now it's just gonna shoot from the hip Maybe the teleprompter didn't work It sounds like it was a teleprompter fail actually no I saw part of this and he was Now there was something else. He was just not he's I don't know what it was but if you'd left the pauses in the show to been oh, yeah

1:54:10 Let me finish this. Well, I left this one in because it's his lead into saying something insane The science around climate change is more accepted as people start realizing that even today Ah see now he's back on track You can put a price on the damage that climate change is doing you go down to Miami and when? It's flooding at high tide on a sunny day and fish are swimming through the middle of the streets Hold on, hold on. John! I'm out here on the streets of Miami... Tell us what you know. Tell us what you know about it. I've been learning there's a lot of water, John and oh my god! John it is so bad There are fish flopping around Oh be safe. I'm trying to be safe trying to get to higher ground but then-oh my god What is that? That's a huge fish It just threw down the streets in Miami

1:55:15 Okay, I don't know of any fish flopping in Miami. Please send report You say flopping is as though they're swimming around he said flopping well back it up high tide on a sunny day Fish are swimming through the middle of the streets. Oh, you're right Swimming I thought they were flopping. No no they're swimming this is so much water They can swim! Yeah, they're swimming around Miami People are bitching about not having enough food to eat come on You can walk into the street and grab some fish Some carp some saltwater carp insurance companies already Are beginning to realize that in terms of how they price risk

1:56:05 And the more the market on its own starts putting a price on it because of risk, it may be that the politics around setting up a cap and trade system for example... Ah! Cap and Trade. There you go. How does that solve anything? He's going to bring up your favorite topic. Shifts as well. Obviously I'm not under any illusion but this Congress will impose something like that. Because they're not idiots It is worth remembering It was conservatives and Republicans and center-right think tanks that originally figured out this was a smarter way to deal with pollution than a command and control system. You know what's coming now? And it was folks like George HW Bush and his EPA that effectively marshaled this approach to deal with acid rain Yeah We ended up solving it a lot faster Q John

1:57:09 Bullshit. Give us a little more. No, that was a cap system not cap and trade it was a cap system Right? With the acid rain, there was actually a modified cap and trade system. That's true. Ah! The mechanism was way different than this one we have for this phony deal and of course I noticed people listening to me going oh these bastards these guys are they're in denial yeah all i know is that he i would just use my logic i'm gonna bring it back up by do it all the time

1:57:46 If there's a problem that's gonna cause worldwide chaos, panic terrorism and everything in between why are you doing cap-and-trade? Cap and cap. You cap something but you're not really capping it. Your trading...you're still putting out as much pollution but you've traded your pollution or your carbon pollution which is bullshit But you're trading your carbon pollution for somebody's forest in South America because they have negative because therefore it sucks up carbon dioxide. And so the net carbon dioxide going in the air is the same! If you have a problem, cap it! Cap it! A lot cheaper than anybody had anticipated and I guess that more than anything that's the main message I want to send here Oh finally Is climate change is a massive problem Massive? It is a generational problem Generational?! It's a problem that by definition

1:58:44 is just about the hardest thing for any political system to absorb. What? Climate change is by definition one of the hardest things to solve, no it's not! That's not that's not the definition of climate change am I over-analyzing this? You've taken this in the wrong direction play it back and then we'll go over It's a problem that by definition is just about the hardest thing for any political system to absorb because... uh, the effects are gradual. They're diffuse People don't feel it immediately and so there's not a lot of constituency pressure on politicians to do something about it right away Hmm Maybe you're not buying this scam Yo And then my favorite thing- and then I'm done YO My favorite thing is- and I love that this is happening

1:59:48 The big all-in Mel and Belinda Gates are now being called out for their moral support, their moral donations. Their morals. Lee Colleton used his feet today in lieu of fossil fuels carrying a sign while other climate activists carried petitions with more than 1,000 signatures We're calling the Gates Foundation to cut its $1.4 billion ties with the fossil fuel industry." The group says, Gates is hypocritical taking money from fossil fuel companies while rallying for clean energy.

2:00:31 capital to the table as well. Former Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn joined the activists calling Gates Foundation investments a missed opportunity, one that jeopardizes its charitable work globally. Sadly the foundation undercuts its own advances when it invests in oil and coal companies who products are causing their earth's temperatures to rise and the oceans to acidify The Gates Foundation sent the following statement to King 5. Foundation staff have no influence on the trust's investment decisions and no visibility into its investment strategies or holdings other than through what is publicly available. Gates has criticized fossil fuel divestment campaigns for misleading messages about long-term climate impact

2:01:15 These activists say they know it's not a single solution, but it is an important place to start. But what we're doing is asking them to spend their moral capital in saying that extracting fossil fuels is not a legitimate means of raising money for their charitable work And the reason this is happening partially because Obama was organizing for Action Group who have started a big push You can look at their website. Call out the climate change deniers, which is another version of shaming like white privilege male privilege cisgender privilege whatever privilege Dutch privilege Tourette's privilege

2:02:00 And they have a big website with the Obama logo on it. Call out the climate change deniers! Then you sign them up, and you say these guys are denying...and of course, the first person you land at is Gates and Buffett can't be far behind for trucking all of the oil in from Canada. Well there's this thing going on which I thought was interesting. They had to 350 guys there of course. Which is now 420 isn't? They still call themselves 350, they can't get the other domain name. I'm with the 420 guys So that includes McKibben who keeps showing up

2:02:36 And this guy has become such a grump. He sits there, he's kind of hunched over and he is just angry. Now who is this? McKibben? McKibben is that guy who is always on Democracy Now! He was the one that started 350.org Oh okay gotcha, gotcha, gotcha... And he sat there with Amy Goodman and he's just seething because whatever anybody saying it's not good enough We're all gonna die." Anyways, so one of his women that work on the operation she gave this little speech on divestment and how well it's going. And there was a couple of things in here that struck me. is that if one of our guys who's one of our producers, who has gone to the bowels... Yes. ...of Congress and looked up White House and some these other people who are... Trading on insider trading? Insider trading guys, and they're buying oil companies at least they were I don't think they're doing it now but they probably will start again And i'm thinking if you can get these somehow cheaper

2:03:35 Because the oil companies are long established businesses that pay good dividends and it's a good investment. You can't get any interest at the bank anymore, you need dividend producing companies and that means mining companies, oil companies, drilling companies those kinds of things. And so you want to push down the price as much as you can because that means the dividend goes up So if the stock is paying 3% and it's $100 a share, if you can push it down to 50 dollars now its paying 6%. Because its a fixed amount so it varies as the price of the stock changes. So this divestment thing I really do believe is part of a process that slams these stocks all of them and just listen to this woman going on... Hold on let me just review what you said

2:04:27 So what you're saying is the way dividends work, if you can suppress the stock of let's say the oil companies then your dividend effectively if you can suppress it by 50% your dividend effectively doubles. Yes Because the dividend is a fixed amount. It's like, the stock will be paying $1 a share dividend. It's not percentage because otherwise it'd be fluctuating all the time so it's a fixed amount that they pay out based on their price of the stock. It's higher percentage of worth...of value of the stock? Yeah! So if you can sink the stock down to 10 bucks, you'll be making out if you invest in it. Now is the time to think about investing. Oh, that's great.

2:05:06 promotion promoting this divestiture, I can't even say it. But McKibben is going on he went on and started this conference... And this is why they're also doing this that they want all universities to divest from their... Yes! They are doing it. They're getting people get out of it This is fantastic. I didn't know that. McKibben says well you know the youth the Millennials are all in on this and they're protesting and making people divest. And I need to say if you've watched The Americans You will know groups who want to affect some kind of change or start a ruckus very often use college kids to do their work. Yeah, course. Of course, those are bored.

2:05:50 And they were all in on it. Oh, God! The horrible demand! Anyone over 30? So let's play this divestment thing I clipped it down as much as I could. I clipped it down a lot actually because there was a little...I had to get this little tidbit in at the end which just cracks me up We're very pleased to be announcing the new commitments to divest from fossil fuels. Who is this? This is the... Which outfit? She's got a funny name, I can't remember it but she's 350.org head honcho just under McKibben. And before I announce them to all of you, I just want to once again remind everyone what this movement for divestment is all about

2:06:31 We're here for a historic summit on climate change and the divestment movement is about something quite simple. If it's wrong to cause climate change, it's wrong to profit from causing climate change and the divestment movement has taken off all over the world with this as its rallying cry So without further ado, today we're announcing that as of today total divestment commitments have passed the 3.4 trillion dollar mark. That's three point four trillion dollars of assets under management now fossil-free a growing number of investors representing a growing amount of capital do not want to be associated with this industry any longer it is a rogue industry and

2:07:17 And that is what these commitments represent. It's a rogue industry? It's gone rogue, I tell ya! How is it a rogue industry? Well because they make pharmaceuticals from oil. Rogue. They make plastics from oil. Rogue. Yeah... Don't they make batteries from oil? Far away from anything you would define as rogue As anything I can imagine People don't want to be involved because it's a rogue industry, she says. What a dick! Well I'll tell you this... This clip with the rogue industry in combination with your outstanding analysis of why divestiture is good because it raises the effective dividend for the shareholders those two things combined deserved.

2:08:19 I thought the bang, bang, bang guy was really the one that should have gotten it. The boom-boom-boom guy? Nah... Boom-boom-boon-boom-boom-boom! And a boom-boom-boom guy? Nah, not like an old boom-boom-boom guy Oh just for your information That French weatherman who got fired for his book He wrote a book of saying this stuff Yes he shouted, that firing is a version of shouting the guy down for writing a book about climate change Yeah he's been hired by RT That's, in other words he is still not working. I think he has been hired by Putin personally. It could be but you know what they pay there? Oh yeah well...I don't know how well he was doing over there in the Francis. Yeah maybe not as well We take a moment just to talk about this The cry bullies There are lot going around right now we have the Lewis and Clark which

2:09:22 I see the President's Office at Lewis and Clark. Where is this, Portland? Is it Oregon? It's up in Oregon, I believe somewhere yeah. And so there's a list of demands... A look it up. Yeah, lists of demands and uh..it is really quite sad to see what is being demanded of these university presidents based upon an attack. Let me see if I have a clip here. Yes outside of Portland or in Portland Okay, so they had some incidents take place but then what they're asking for is I'm just struggling to find it here for a moment. But the president must

2:10:10 I admit, but Clark had a situation that began, I guess, a year ago and it was involved. Actually there's a white kid and a black kid they're best friends both on the football team, I believe. And they were joking around and one of them said something you know something that offended a passerby who told somebody else who told somebody else and they took in and they turned him too in for being racist or something like that. Well, there was that but then there was some kid who was beat up Some Nigerian kid, I think was beat up at Lewis... Was that Lewis and Clark? I think so. I don't know if that was Lewis and Clark. Well, I could be wrong but anyway they uh here's the things the demands are quite interesting uh So the demands are have Barry Glasner he's the president hold a press conference in oh you're right no it was one of the students was upset because

2:11:06 Doesn't matter. Here's what they want, a formal apology to Lewis and Clark Black Lives Matter organizers for his absence during the incident on the night of November 20 2015 and the lack of communication thereafter it was a Saturday so he wasn't in his office A verbal commitment to fulfilling LC black lives matter and walk this hashtag WalkTheTalk demands An admittance of his failure to prioritize the safety and security of students of color during his tenure as president. That's a pretty big one, so basically you have to admit that you were racist because you were safe for everyone but students of color A formal statement to the Delaire scholarship donors Romeo Delaire, The UWC International Office, The Davis Foundation blah blah blah A public acknowledgement of the following facts Lewis & Clark College was built upon stolen land through genocide of indigenous and Native American peoples

2:11:55 Through its name, Lewis and Clark College honors the lives and deeds of owners of enslaved peoples. Lewis & Clark College replicates the assertion of and benefits from the legacy of Anglo-American white supremacy." So he has to admit to all this? This is crazy. It's like he has just been captured by some terrorists in the Arab world. I want all my money in a brown paper bag! You must read his statement about the United States being such a bad place So you're right, it started over...it was over two buddies who were making racial jokes together black guy and white guy they were having fun

2:12:41 And that they were reported, and so this is how a lot of that kicked off. Now we also had an interesting... By the way I want to stop and mention something where I see these things I have some sympathy in the outset for some of the students and what they want. But this has now gotten completely out of control, and it's ridiculous, and it's stupid. And I think these universities have got to...I mean they're making so much money off these kids that they don't want to do anything but the way I would do is I'd find...and this is dominated by women, by the way, black women There's been a lot of research, people talk about... What about you? You're with them. Right? You're a guy why don't you say something? Oh no, no, no, no, nobody wants to say anything because they get called out and excoriated by these horrible people. They should fire...fire! You can't fire them. They should be expelled immediately. These kids that are doing this when you come through the college, these colleges have got to make you sign something so you have like

2:13:42 Right, but what's happening John... They should fire them and let them deal with it. Then the argument would be over whether they got fired or whether they got expelled legally or not. Let him deal with that is... But what's happening John is the customers although misguided, the customers of these... And what is Lewis & Clark? It's like $40,000 a year. Like 20 grand a semester something. I'm sure The customer are saying we want this and their school, the schools are such non-effective, non smart people producing institutions. They are money grubbing whores sorry not the teachers you know but the system the way it's set up with billions in endowments they are doing what their oh because they're affected too! They've all become these blobs of blithering dough

2:14:34 I don't want to get fired because students will lose our money, we'll lose their income. Except for thank God Dr. Everett Piper president of the Oklahoma Wesleyan University. The President of Oklahoma Wesleyan University making headlines for his epic response to a student who was offended by a chapel sermon Yeah this was great. The kid was offended. Yes yes uh i'll read here...I have the letter This past week, I think i should just read. I have reports on it but ill just read it. This past week I actually had a student this from the president come forward after university chapel service and complain because he felt quote victimized by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13

2:15:16 It appears this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him and his peers feel uncomfortable." I'm not making this up! Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic Anytime their feelings are hurt, they are victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and thus makes them feel bad about themselves is a hater, a bigot an oppressor and a victimizer I have a message for this young man and all others who care to listen. That feeling of discomfort you have after listening to a sermon is called a conscience, an altar call is supposed to make you feel bad it's supposed to make you feel guilty the goal of many good sermons get you to confess your sins not coddle you in your selfishness

2:16:05 Selfless selfishness. The primary objective of the church and the Christian faith is your confession, not your self-actualization so here's my advice if you want the chaplain to tell you that you're a victim rather than tell you that you need virtue this may not be the university you are looking for If you want to complain about a sermon that makes you feel less than loving for not showing love this might be the wrong place If you're more interested in playing the hater card than you are in confessing your own hate, if you want to arrogantly lecture rather than humbly learn. If you don't want to feel guilt in your soul and when you are guilty of sin, if you want to be enabled rather than confronted there are many universities across the land—in Missouri and elsewhere—that will give you exactly what you want but Oklahoma, Wellesleyan isn't one of them."

2:16:49 At OKWU, we teach you to be selfless rather than self-centered. We are more interested in you practicing personal forgiveness than political revenge. We want you to model interpersonal reconciliation rather than foment personal conflict. We believe the content of your character is more important than the color of your skin. We don't believe that you have been victimized every time you feel guilty and we do not issue trigger warnings before altercals! Oklahoma Welsian is not a safe place but rather... Wesleyan is not a safe place, but rather a place to learn. To learn that life isn't about you but about others. That bad feelings you have while listening to a sermon is called guilt. That the way to address it is to repent of everything that's wrong with you rather than blame other for everything that's wrong with him This is the place where you will quickly learn that you need to grow up this is not a daycare this is a university. Finally! Yeah well he is in the minority

2:17:48 And I do want to say about the term narcissism, yeah? I find it extremely humorous when people call Donald Trump a narcissist on Facebook. It's just twist my brain Okay go on Facebook is the definition of narcissism are you kidding me everyone's all made to be a fucking narcissist yes true it is the epitome of Narcissism to call out Donald Trump on Facebook as a narcissist. Are you kidding me? But I like, yeah he's in the minority it's the silent minority as well unfortunately. It's when you see my Facebook feed is so good that the professor from California posts The Rolling Stone article about the GOP candidates being a clown car it's a Matt Taibbi piece it's pretty funny

2:18:52 But, you know these otherwise smart people resort to name-calling all the time. Clowns, idiots, morons, crazies, jackasses... Right! That should be left to us Would you please leave that to guys who are professionals at this stuff? I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could deal with acid Oh yeah that'd be fab On NO AGENDA Laid but no cigar. We have a few people to thank for show 778

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2:25:35 for supporting the show. Can't do it without you, actually really can't do it without you." It's true! It is a fact. It is a big ass fact. Alrighty let me see... and we're a couple other things... Let's see what I got. Hillary there was some new Hillary emails which are kind of funny slash lame yeah um Yeah, there's another one that... I'm sorry you have an affair with that one guy though. Oh with who? That guy keeps cropping up in the conversation but i can't think of it. But I was actually kind of intrigued by Steve Ballmer going to the shareholders meeting at Microsoft and calling these saying that the numbers are that the new guy Nadelle was producing or bullshit

2:26:28 And he condemned them. Really? Yeah, it's harsh. This is bullshit! These numbers are bullshit you can't do this and they were talking about run rates and stuff that was just nonsense huh That's not good I should probably just start giving you a list of stories the brain professor from Stanford University posts on Facebook Are they that good? Well its always the commentary Oh, shit Actually, I should probably bring that up. Why don't you just bring it up and read the responses from... because he also comments on it and then his wife does as well, the interior designer. It's funny okay let's see. I'm surprised they haven't unfriended you? I think they're afraid of the onslaught so here is

2:27:24 This is the article from Vox, another fine... blog. It's not just Trump colon Islamophobia in America is spiraling out of control! Yeah And his comment is well it's increasingly easy to imagine what 1930s Germany was like That's from The Professor And then his wife chimes in and says, yeah. And unfortunately these are the only people who seem to vote anymore. The crazies! That's one. The crazies? Yeah, the crazies. The only ones who vote? How did Obama get into office? Well this is their reality you know this is my favorite was the posting of this survey which has been debunked even in the comments it was that he

2:28:23 of his posting, the negative association between religiousness and children's altruism across the world. And this study which is easily ripped to shreds claims that children from non-religious households are more altruistic than religious children And of course his comment is... I believe studies that i've seen involving charity. So exactly the opposite. Which is something we have to study because our show's kind of it It shows exactly the opposite. Right, but now this is a professor who deals in statistics and data and his comment is... He wanted that to be true? Yes he wanted it to be true I didn't realize he was such a bigot Oh! He's a huge bigot And then people come in and say you know come on with then his wife she's interior designer

2:29:23 The whole reason they're back in California, in my opinion. I just got an email request from a stranger for a free paint color consultation but it totes- But its... okay because he closed with God bless you Oh wait! I'm the atheist here so I am supposed to be altruistic and work for free right? Dangit People are insane John That's great people are in sick. This should be a whole say why I do not become a member of Facebook I get I hear enough of the nuttiness on Twitter, but they limit it to 140 440 characters So I can feel that I don't have to really be hit you know It was a broadside like being here with a baseball bat right in his stomach But we need a jingle I think for this

2:30:10 Adam reads from Facebook. Well, no it should be the professor's Facebook post Oh, you're just gonna be gonna specialize I think we should specialize on him because the guy is this he was a sought-after the Stanford University got this guy, they pulled him away now that he did it for the money wasn't enough etc. But his wife wanted to be back in California so and he's a Texan. He's a California guy? Yeah and he's an East Texan so you know the poor guy but he's but you're seeing the corruption... Sounds like it fits right in if you ask me! Well you're seeing the ruination of a very smart intellectual Into you know just a knee-jerk. Just yeah, just going down to need but mean mean Yeah, I'm mean and bigoted when you're when your that when your when your line of thought is along the That's kind of this modern liberal style And you you're not getting your way You'd get mean yeah

2:31:10 And it doesn't matter what comment I post. This is like, well, I'm telling you when I saw this with Amy Goodman and that Kibben guy from 350.org sitting there steaming he just...and they weren't even talking about anything negative there was denial material none of that because they are just steaming about his existence and they're the definition of bigots because they will not listen to any other's opinion They just will not listen to it and then and no, it hurts. It hurts the readjust when you're in total cognitive dissonance We'd love to talk about I do anyway Yeah When your brain is completely fried from a perspective that is totally political And makes really makes zero sense You cannot be taken out of this because you will you will have to deal with the stupidity of your entire existence

2:32:04 You're stuck. Exactly, we try to keep people from getting into that stuck mode and that's what the show does so appreciate it well It would be a big win if we could unstuck this guy now I don't think is possible So he says anyway on this Trump article On the the GOP clown car rolls on by Matt Aby There's couple of comments and I say well polls are bullcrap And then he comes back and says, Adam are you saying that Republicans don't actually support these clowns even though the polls say they do? Then I say no. What does that got to do with what you said? You said polls are bullcrap! Yeah so his take is...

2:32:55 The Republican, he says that the polls are reporting all these Republicans who support these clowns. And what he's asking is does it mean that Republicans don't actually support these clowns because the polls say they do but they're not because the polls are wrong? And remember, this is a guy who deals with statistics. And I reply, I'm saying polls funded by the same media organizations that report them are used to rig the audience into believing candidate standings. That's why Nate Silver looked like a genius when he accurately predicted Obama over Romney which poll showed was a close race polling is used to entice campaigns for more money in advertising. You're actually going into dialogue?

2:33:36 Which goes directly to the media companies that create the polls. Yeah, it's one of our thesis on the show His reply? Oh no Well we finally agree on something politically then Whatever that means A professor from Stanford University Drop out now! Drop out of Stanford Wow yeah I think we have you're actually sound you like sound like the reasonable one. Yeah, but to an extreme this is when you know were in trouble when i'm the reasonable one it's time to wake the neighbors and grab the kids and get me go to the gun store weaponry all right Ashton Carter that's my last bit unless you have something you want to slide in before then uh he got nothing yeah Ashton Carter spent about three hours on the hill

2:34:39 Up there talking about all things ISIS, ISIL. I said like IS-Daesh whatever everybody we and Let's just see what it was really about We're at war John word war even though it's not declared Well should be declared using the might of the finest fighting force the world has ever known this guy is a warmonger Tens of thousands of US personnel are operating in the broader Middle East region more on the way Some of our most advanced air and naval forces attacking ISIL U.s Troops are advising and assisting ground operations in Syria and Iraq, and it just went downhill from there It does kept ongoing now I have a question for you This is and this is it was kind of funny how this came about

2:35:32 Now, the president has been very clear that we have 65 nations on board. Yeah this is in your craw It is because I still can't come up with 60 You got your list you probably have a list and you keep looking at it and trying to add other names you can do it? It's very very hard to come up with The 65 nations is the same as the 99.5, a bit exaggerated. And what's sad is that if now we have 65 nations already on board why do we have to now beg people to do something?

2:36:14 Listen we have asked for the participation of special forces of people to provide police training, people to provide ammo military assistance People can provide enablers. There are various enables in which countries can contribute They don't have to necessarily be troops engaged in kinetic action. Guides? Guided? Guided? Medical facilities there are uh, other assets that could be deployed. Uh there is intelligence gathering blah blah blah so the guy keeps on saying well you know we need this I think in the other clip i had which didn't play oh yeah here it is now the other clip that we didn't played the president's actually talking about

2:36:57 Oh, we need people who can hand out band-aids. I'm not kidding! I'll find it for Sunday because it's in the middle of another clip... If everyone is all in why is Kerry begging? Why is he begging? Everyone's begging we need to somehow make all this happen. Tulsi Gabbard was also in this and shut her up yet. Oh, and she looks great. And she's very good. She's very calm because she knows what you're talking about. She's a the Iraq and Afghanistan veteran I believe, but with both. But she was now did she not fly A-10s? Yeah, I think she did choose an A-10 warthog pilot badass bad ass mama badass badass. And she leads

2:37:48 Ashton Carter down a path. I don't know if she, I don't think she's actually on this clip but another word we had to look up about the strategy. A declaration. What you victory it's indicated that it's war are we winning Mr Secretary? Oops hold on hold on that's not the one sorry It is funny though. Ah get that in a moment. These special operators over time listen these special operators will over time be able to conduct raids Free hostages gather intelligence and capture ISIL leaders This force will also be in a position to conduct unilateral operations in Syria that creates a virtual virtuous cycle of better intelligence Which generates more targets more raids? More momentum, okay Virtually or virtuous is both. Well he corrected himself and wound up saying virtuous

2:38:46 Virtuous. Definition, moral ethical righteous noble not accurate no moral ethical so he's saying that by giving our troops unilateral missions in Syria which means without any other partner none of the 65 are participating I guess it's just us we have the unilateral force they're going to not just kick ass but they're gonna create virtuous Intelligence. Well, he said virtual then he said virtuous. Let's listen again. Intelligence which generates... Oops I went back a little bit further He meant virtuous. Virtuous cycle. Backing it up, backing it up. That creates a virtuous cycle. Virtuous cycle? He mean to say virtue? He started with virtual and then he said virtuous Yeah, he meant to say... This is neuro-linguistic stuff

2:39:42 But he wants to implant the idea of a virtual and then drop in virtuous which has got nothing to do with anything. But virtuous is better! Yeah, but it's bullshit No I don't think so. I think he actually is telling the truth This will create virtuous intelligence It will create moral ethical righteous noble intelligence not accurate but righteous you see Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah! Well you're trying to say... oh. I'm not trying- In other words it's gonna create bullcrap Yes!! That is cool That is moral, ethical, righteous Right that we can make use of leverage You know whatever we are going to leverage on The guy is full of shit No And then of course the real question A declaration What do you victory? It's a- You indicated that its war Are we winning Mr Secretary

2:40:32 Uh, we will win. Are we winning now? We're going to win! Wow, winning?! Yeah! The guy dropped the ball on this he said are we now are we winning or are we not winning and he said we will, we will win. The guy right then the senator I think it was a senator should have said when He should have said when yeah No, he didn't say that. No you got cowed by the guy's really a nasty guy up there He's mean Ashton Carter is super mean oh yeah it's very mean spirited and then total a-hole to work for of course Putin who I didn't know that in Europe they call him poodler did you know that? They call him poodler? Poodler! Yeah Oh that's just a reference to Hitler? Yeah It's Putin and Hitlers poodler

2:41:28 Look it up. It's everywhere people calling him poodler I didn't know this was a thing poodle. I didn't either till now Pootler so poodler had his guys go up there and then poodler Putla said, hey wait a minute! The rift is growing between Russia and Turkey. The Russian Defense Ministry claims it has proof that Turkey's involved in the trading of oil with ISIL militants Officials released satellite pictures alleging they show oil tankers heading along three roads from ISIL held areas to Turkey Turkey is the principal consumer of this oil stolen from its legitimate owners Syria and Iraq says the Deputy Defence Minister.

2:42:10 According to inbound data, top Turkish leadership is involved in this criminal business including President Erdogan and his family he says. Pro-government media in Turkey... That's Balil, his son Balil who was running the oil. Yeah no his son is a known smuggler. He's running it, he's running it. So they have... Dads helping. So they have photos. Mr claims as impossible saying that rows shown by Russia are controlled by Kurdish rebels and Syrian army The Turkish president also denied the claims. Turkey has not lost its moral values. We are not buying oil from a terrorist organization, he says. We're watching Russia's disproportionate reactions with sadness while the whole world accepts that we're right If Russia's reactions continue, he says, will be forced to take our own measures.

2:43:10 Nothing, but you can't do anything. He's not gonna attack Turkey But he has put them on notice and now he saying all that Turkish streams yeah I don't think so Probably not and everyone's riling it they're so dumb in Europe Do you not know your being peopled? You are being played Hey, yeah, when your Germany should join in and should reject that rejected North Stream 2 pipeline Germany is going what? No, no way. 999? And by the way that if you go to pootler and look up the images... They must be great! Pootler images on Google or Bing both of them I guess I'm being actually... This thing about Turkey came up in the State Department briefing

2:43:59 I just want to mention abundance, it's a poodler thing before we go on in the State Department. This has got to be the biggest insult to Russians who pretty much... Liberated Europe! ...liberated Europe. I mean not for the benefit of Europe necessarily but they're the ones who took the biggest beating from the Nazis and did the best job of pushing them back where they belong To be called, to be referenced in this way. It's gotta be... Somebody dreamed this up. This is a great insult. Great insult! Anyway, Kootler State Department the one have the cute Russian girl I'm not the one we can whose name. We can't remember but the other one whose name? We can't remember Oh the second okay her images show huge convoys with what Russia says are oil trucks crossing The Turkish Syrian border unhindered and and one of the images shows And there are many shows 240 trucks on the Turkish side of the border and over 40 similar trucks under

2:44:56 on the Syrian side of the... Now you recall that we didn't blow up all of the trucks because we ran out of ammo. Yeah, we were at bullets and someone pinged me and wanted to have a beer with me about that said well let me tell you about the A-10 it's not the point! That should not have been an A-10 operation. That should have been a strife Blow it all out of the water operation, but no you can't do that because you might get air to want a little bit pissed off That it doesn't raise any red flags here. Well look first of all You know I'm not gonna speak to the credibility of your satellite imagery Like she's KGB like since saying she's KGB right there Yeah Your satellite imagery you over there at RT from this podium certainly this

2:45:38 Secondly, no we've never said that oil smuggling from ISIL is not a problem. What I'm trying to say is that there's no Turkish government complicity in some operation just to buy illegal oil from ISIL it's just...we don't believe that to be true in any way shape or form There are smuggling, there is smuggling that takes place across that border. That's one of the reasons why we're working with Turkey to seal that border but as to you know the scale of it I don't have any estimates to give to you QUESTIONS.

2:46:36 That's what – so what has the U.S. been doing specifically on trying to stop this smuggling? MR TONER Letting them go? QUESTION In that oil getting into the international markets? MR TONER Well, again, it's something we're working with Turkey. I'm not going to outline the steps. Secretary Kerry spoke to it earlier today but we are actively working on ways that we can seal that border, that we can end these routes as much as they exist where smuggling may be taking place. Yeah, and then Matt eventually comes in and the guy just keeps saying no this note is not true it's just not true it's not true there's no oil nothing to see here move along where of course as oil is going to the Chinese into that you... It has gone all over the place somehow we're condoning it or were behind it maybe we are making money

2:47:25 We're behind it. Yeah, we are behind we're behind you know everyone's seen the videos of US helicopters dropping supplies to ISIS ISIL is come on the whole world knows that except us Yes, I think it was pointed out with some only a few of the cartoons that are worldwide that were shown in the last newsletter Yeah people don't get the newsletter. You didn't see these cartoons But they're fantastic and then another one that I love if Putin wasn't a big enough conspiracy theorist to be thinking that the US and Turkey are complicit in helping ISIL with their funding efforts Russia has now, under their desirables law, has banned George Soros and his open society foundations from operating in Russia. Yeah of course! But whenever you say Soros creates trouble around the world and funds color revolutions you're called a conspiracy theorist. Oh the conspiracy theorists thing is just ridiculous I mean i think people should just reject the term

2:48:28 And the Brits of course came out right after the vote. They immediately started bombing last night. Oh good! Yeah, want a little clip of them bombing? Yeah I wanna hear this. British bombers have carried out their first air strikes against ISIL in Syria just hours after MPs voted in favour of UK action against the militants there Four tornado jets took off from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, making a strike over Syria according to the Ministry of Defense. High precision laser guided brimstone missiles are being... Ah there's the plug! Look at how our missiles are doing we make good stuff too yo! although the precise targets have not been revealed. On Wednesday, lawmakers backed Prime Minister David Cameron's call to target ISIL voting in favour by 397 to 223 after a 10-hour debate in Parliament We are NATO turning sand into glass

2:49:18 The result comes as a blow to the leader of Britain's main opposition party, Jeremy Corbyn who is a pacifist and was against the bombing. A total of 66 Labour MPs sided with the government." How can he be a pacifist? And of course all this ultimately boils down to money we have two sides We have the Republican side and we have the Democrat side. We start with the Republican I'm ashamed to say that he is from the great state of Texas He's probably a nice guy, but he does not know Jack. And he is the chair of the Homeland Security Committee! This is not okay to have this guy here or get the No Agenda Consulting Group, the Curry-DeVorey Consulting Group, to help him out. Congressman McCall of Texas is a dick. Chairman McCall what lessons have we learned from the attacks in Paris?

2:50:08 Well, there are several. The Paris attack was foreign fighters. No it's not foreign fighters! It was not right off the bat...no No, it was not foreign fighters. They were French nationals. Well there are several the Paris attack where it's a foreign fighters traveling to the region coming back so we have 5,000 Europeans with Western passports that have traveled through the region many of come back We have hundreds of Americans and many of them have come back to United States This just didn't count I mean he was read in on something and he just he doesn't does he read a newspaper? Does he look at a blog or anything? No. He doesn't have time, he's hitting the- he goes and leaves, he goes to the bar... This is a disservice! But this is just a disservice to say

2:50:55 Well, you know these are people who return no it's not I do think the threat is far greater in Europe because of the numbers there are far more foreign fighters traveling in and out of now notice their foreign fighters now Europe to Iraq and Syria My committee issued a bipartisan task force report that the speaker and the leader now are implementing the recommendations into legislation To help tighten up security gaps both internationally and domestic. I think as Adam talked about the ease of travel, they don't check their citizens pass watch lists. They don't check their citizens pass watch lists? What is a passed watched list? Right. That's what he was talking about. I think that's going to change in the wake of the Paris attacks. And what about here in the homeland?

2:51:45 In the homeland! Can't you see him? This woman, what's he saying? America baby. Homeland. McCall what do we really have to do? You can't protect all these soft targets Well, it's very difficult and we don't want... Soft targets. Maybe that when they were talking about this event in San... Oh soft target! What is a soft target? A soft target is a soft target. It's the target that has no protection. It can be easily hit by as a soft target. It got no security. It means unarmored undefended targets. Soft target. Okay, soft targets a soft target but what's it? But what's the soft target then there's security everywhere Everything is a soft target of what do we really have to do you can't protect all these soft targets No, I'm not soft baby

2:52:31 Well, it's very difficult and we don't want these foreign fighters coming into the United States from visa waiver countries. We've had in the homeland 18 plots stopped that are ISIS related. Plots? Plots! There was 900. We arrested 70 ISIS followers. We have a thousand investigations in all 50 states. I'll tell you one thing Congress— It was nine hundred not a thousand We have an appropriations bill coming up in about two weeks and I think the FBI, and components of Homeland Security will need an increase in funding to help combat this threat that we see right now.

2:53:11 Hey, money more money and Adam Schiff the democrat in the conversation says kind of the same thing. Is that the answer Congressman Schiff? Well you know we certainly have resource challenges but we are fortunate that we don't have enough money anywhere near the number foreign fighters to track that Europe does At the same time, I think two areas where we can really beef up our own security. One is the continuing vulnerability at our airports so all too often when we test the TSA they don't meet the test and that has to... And that was one of things I was going to bring up if you talk about this quickly. Down of the Russian passenger jet or not shooting down the explosion on board that what happened to downing, baby You're not using the right lexicon The explosion on board that we blame on Isis That is pretty incredible and we haven't talked about that a lot It is incredible And if you look at the device that Isis claims have used it's no larger than the size of a soda can That can bring down an entire believe. That's accurate

2:54:08 I believe that a device that small can bring down an aircraft and that means we really have to tighten up our defenses. And the other area, I would mention too is while some have put a lot of focus on the refugees by-and-large the refugees have not been the problem The real vulnerability here is people with European passports European citizens That can travel without a visa it's United States We're gonna have to address that issue They did do something they changed the ESTA visa waiver program connect more databases to each other. I read through the whole legislation and it's nothing, it's like well we're gonna connect the databases make them look but they've really... There is a date that's yeah they talk a big game about that but every time they try it then it's like the incompatibilities between every so just a few differences it's not like they all using the same you know software there not? No of course not

2:55:07 That would be a reason to install new software for everybody. More money! More money, more money, more money... poodler. Oh Ash Carter did say something he actually admitted Something about the oil transports I forgot to play. Here we go next in the south of Syria We're also taking advantage of opportunities to open a southern front on ISIL now This is interesting get your maps out look at Mosul Look at Raqqa and then look at Sinjar by enabling fighters trained and equipped by us another coalition partners To conduct strikes inside Syria

2:55:47 We're also enhancing the border control and defenses of a key ally Jordan Additional military assets and assistance. Oh, okay didn't know that in northern Iraq Peshmerga units with the help of US airpower and advisors have retaken the town of Sinjar Cutting the main line of communication between Raqqa and Mosul. This is interesting because I believe Mosul is where the oil is transported from to Raqqa for refinery Refining and then off up to Erdogan's kid there in Turkey So now we're going to be the gatekeeper somehow in Sinjar if you look at them, yeah toll Pay toll

2:56:34 The two largest cities under ISIL's control to move people and supplies I so must now rely on back roads where we locate and destroy them aha We shall see all right All right enough another depressing show oh no Well, then why did I end it with we're all gonna die? That's true. I'll end it with that Okay We can pick up the pace by having some funny stuff at the end I'm gonna try that to make everybody happy who came along for the show now. It's raining like it's really rain So they were right yeah, I don't perceive well there you have it There you go. It does happen again someone keeps calling me Somebody's calling you yeah from Hartford Connecticut. This is a spammer Yeah They won't stop That's the spammer. Yeah typical

2:57:36 Should answer in a robotic voice. I'm not I have no time, I'm doing a show you want to show I take my phone off I use the landline made out of bakelite Thank you very much for joining us here for the best podcast on the universe We shall return on Sunday with another episode of deconstruction anything that happens we'll have our eyes and ears open if You're a member of our intelligence network get it to us and get it to as fast And it'll be plenty interesting Hell to the yes. For reals. Coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin, Tejas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's now wet John C. DuBois We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda

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