Episode 777 · Sunday, 29 November 2015

Pop-Up Terrorism

Globalist agendas collide at COP21 while domestic unrest in Chicago and Colorado Springs provides the backdrop for a new era of state-sponsored media narratives.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 58m listen | 29 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 777

About this episode

The Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting has triggered a wave of media speculation as the Obama administration leverages the event to renew gun control efforts. Robert Lewis Dear faces scrutiny over his motives while the press adopts a baby-parts narrative based on unnamed sources. Meanwhile, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard appeared on CNN to denounce CIA-backed efforts to overthrow the Syrian government, warning that arming extremist rebels risks a direct military confrontation with Russia and the onset of World War III.

Global tensions escalate as Russia imposes harsh economic sanctions on Turkey following the downing of a Russian warplane, banning charter flights and Turkish imports. At the COP21 climate summit in Paris, Prince Charles linked the Syrian conflict to climate-induced droughts while US Special Envoy Todd Stern pushed for non-binding agreements to bypass Senate oversight. Financial mechanisms like the Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance and the Climate Investor One fund are emerging as tools for Western influence in Africa to counter Chinese expansion. In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel faces backlash over the delayed release of the Laquan McDonald dashcam video, which critics claim was suppressed to protect his re-election campaign.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of pharmaceutical side-effect warnings and the rise of millennial trypophobia. The broadcast features a detailed guide to cooking a ten-pound Narragansett heritage turkey at 500 degrees and a look at the Iraqi Rambo, Abu Azrael, as a Mossad-backed propaganda figure. The hosts also celebrate the 777 Club donors with a formal knighting ceremony for the show's executive producers.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

Cisgender Identity, Trigger Warnings, and Pharmaceutical Side Effects

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the broadcast with a discussion on gender identity terms, specifically the definition of "cisgender." The conversation transitions into a satirical "trigger warning" regarding the repetitive use of the word trigger. This leads to a critique of pharmaceutical advertisements, specifically highlighting the common disclaimer of "anal leakage" as a side effect in drug marketing.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· cisgender· trigger warning· anal leakage· pharmaceutical ads

00:00 Turkey's long overdue for rebelization. Once again, I'm broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state of FEMA region 6 Austin, Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I see 777 in chemtrails. I'm John C. DeVore Really Not really not really no I didn't think so in fact. It's a very clear sky surprisingly. This means. It's very cold. Oh, it's rainy here Brain and cold and cold rainy alcohol is cold to you well for us. It's in the 40s. That's cold Yeah, that's very cold for the Texans before we start John

00:59 I do want to make sure everyone understands. My name is Adam Curry. I'm a podcaster. I'm cisgendered. I'm white. I am male. My preferred pronoun is dude. You're cisgendered? Yes, so are you. What does that even mean? It's what we are. It's who we are, who we identify as. Okay. Cisgendered. I think it means kind of normal. Cisgendered. I wish I could remember that phrase that one woman had. Normative. Sexual normative douchebags. Wasn't it gender normative? Gender normative douchebags. Well with that we probably should play our content trigger warning just to make sure everybody understands who is new to this broadcast. The following podcast contains a trigger warning that uses the word trigger.

01:47 Some listeners who have a trigger from the word trigger may be triggered when they hear the word trigger as the word trigger triggers their trigger. However, as I am meant to provide a trigger warning that warns that the trigger warning contains the word trigger and trigger may trigger someone's trigger, but by doing so we have already used the word trigger in the trigger warning and the trigger in the trigger warning may be the trigger that triggered the trigger of the word trigger, let me put this another way. See? Now that didn't hurt a bit. Listener discretion is advised. It's the first trigger warning that doesn't cause anal leakage. Wait a minute! Can we get someone to clean this up? Yeah, it's leakage. There's always leakage. The Lucid Mojo. There's always leakage. People need to realize that there is a class of medication out there that actually does provide anal leakage and is often disclaimed in these side effects.

02:47 Oh, there's plenty. Oh, I'm sorry. You have all the categories there? No, I don't. But I can tell you this from all the number of drug ads that we've played that about half of them have the anal leakage disclaimer. Yeah, they just don't always put it in the voiceover, which is a shame. Well, sometimes they do. Sometimes they put it in the script. They have little writings on there. Think of the entertainment. The anal leakage is not the thing that's going to make you drop dead. Oh, it may not get right. Oh my God may not get you late either. It's not that's not good stuff If you're taking any of those drugs, you're not getting laid That's what the little pink pill is for that thing's a big flop. You know yeah, I heard it sold almost nothing yes Pretty much what it's old almost nothing considered. They've they lost more money in the marketing They have yet to make a profit on that thing nobody's interested really women don't need

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

No Agenda Thanksgiving Special and Show Humor Metrics

The hosts reflect on the success of their recent Thanksgiving Day special, episode 776.5, noting its high entertainment value. They analyze the typical ratio of humor in a standard No Agenda show, estimating that comedic elements usually comprise less than five percent of their deconstructive content.

no agenda· thanksgiving special· podcasting· humor· deconstruction

03:42 such things. They can just lay back and pretend. Oh, John! Yeah, I have to say our Thanksgiving Day special, the No Agenda Funny 776.5, um, was- it was a hoot even after the third time. It was two or three times. Well, you, my friend, You're funny. I'm hilarious you are yeah, you know there's nothing like the story of you trying to pick up the girl on the motorcycle when your face is frozen Yeah, that's a favorite fact that no agenda kids is a favorite. There's just a lot of favorites in there This is very very good

04:21 Of course not representative of the best podcasting universe in our normal deconstructive mode, which is I think what we have. Small tidbits that just show up in the show. The percentage of humor in a typical NOA agenda show is probably 5% max. Maybe less. Probably less. I'd say it's less than that. Yeah, 1%. But when we bring it. Maybe one funny thing in each show. When we bring it. Maybe. We bring it, don't we? Well, if you put it all together in one show, it's pretty obvious that we have. Look at that juice. The juice that comes out. My hand is dripping wet here because I have nothing but juice. Yeah, there's a new one. There's a new juice. That guy up to. There's a new juice on the horizon. Wow. I think you've... I don't want to know that guy. I think somehow you've got onto a trend.

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Heritage Turkey Cooking Techniques and Thanksgiving Traditions

A detailed account is provided regarding the preparation of a ten-pound Narragansett heritage turkey. The narrative emphasizes the necessity of high-temperature cooking methods, starting at 500 degrees, and warns against the use of oiled parchment paper which can ash at such heat. The discussion concludes with a comparison of heritage birds versus commercial broad-breasted turkeys.

heritage bird· naragansett turkey· cooking· thanksgiving· oven temperature

05:10 Gosh, can you see that juice? I'm telling you. The juice is loose, baby. I think it's because food is dry nowadays. Hey! It's wishful thinking. How was Thanksgiving? How was the food? You did a heritage bird, right? I did a heritage bird, a naraganset. A 10-pound naraganset farmed by a woman in Port Orchard or Port Gamble or some little town. It was interesting because I did it the night before. We did our Thanksgiving, Mimi and I, on Wednesday. Oh, that's un-American. No, we also had the same meal the next day. That's called leftovers. Well, not the way I did it. It was a completely different meal, but it was the same.

05:58 But what it allowed me to do was to test market or test cook the bird. And what I discovered, and I guess I didn't really, I haven't, you know, I've been cooking these heritage birds wrong. Now, that's why I didn't have a recipe. I always do it differently. And you really do have to follow the...if you read all the literature, and my daughter read all the literature including stuff that I didn't read, she sent me some, we went back and forth. And it turns out that these birds cook a lot faster than even the literature does if you cook them correctly. You cook them extremely high temperatures. You start like 500 or 550. Oh, well my oven doesn't even go to that well Whatever goes to max it out 375 throw that baby in there for about I don't know 45 minutes to an hour It's almost done now, but pull down the temperature to like 400 to 450 now Do you have to put a foil hat on it? Yeah? Yeah? I think you would well They want you to use oil parchment

06:55 And everyone says, oiled parchment, oiled parchment. Well, if you do it the way the instructions are, the oiled parchment catches on fire. And so that's you don't want. It doesn't really catch on fire, but it turns into like an ash. It turns black. It's horrible. So the bird that was supposed to cook for two and a half hours was done in my process in hour 50. It was a 10-pounder. And so I... That's hardly a turkey, man. It's a turkey. It's turkey. The other birds are those crazy giant monsters with the big breasts that can't stand up. Those are freaks.

07:37 So, anyway, the 10-pound... The heritage birds are never gonna be very big. But this 10-pounder was cooked an hour 50. And then so I warned the kids, because Eric was cooking a very similar bird, almost the same...in fact, the sister of this one. And Jay was cooking a bird and it was, I think, about 11 pounds maybe. And these were sisters, you say? Were they... Well, the one that I had and the one that Eric had was from the same farm. Separated at birth. Well, the heads were gone, so who knows. And her head is gone. Oh, they're very similar looking. So we warned everybody and so everyone had a perfect turkey. Because it was like, everyone was saying two and a half hours would have turned the thing to a smoldering block of charcoal. Anyway, that's what you... It was good. It wasn't overcooked. I made the sweet potatoes. Yes. Great job. I used the heavy cream, as you suggested. It was great. Right.

08:36 Yeah, the heavy cream. I think is better than that you were using yogurt. Yeah, yeah, the heavy cream was good And then my stovetop turned out perfect beautiful and passed it right off slaved over it Anyway, I always Has always difficult you come back after a week I wasn't really able to check out 100% if you were it's so complicated we had all these things happen Yes, there was a number of events including the crazy shooting by a total nut job. I mean, if you look at this guy, I mean, this is where's the NSA when they need, when we need them. So this guy, and then you get all these little racial comments coming out of the woodwork on Twitter. You're talking about this, the shooting in Colorado Springs. Yeah. At the Planned Parenthood office. And just before we start off,

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Shooting and Media Narratives

The shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs is analyzed as a potential catalyst for renewed gun control efforts by the Obama administration. Skepticism is expressed regarding the reported motives of the shooter, Robert Lewis Dear, and the media's quick adoption of the "baby parts" narrative based on unnamed sources. The segment also touches on the $15 million lawsuit filed by Ahmed Mohamed, known as "Clock Boy."

colorado springs· planned parenthood· robert lewis dear· gun control· barack obama

09:27 This guy, I mean he pretty much has the setup I'm thinking of putting together. You got the trailer, you got the compounds, you know. Exactly, that's you. He did hit an RV and said... This is you in 10 years. Yeah, well he seemed pretty nice. He was handing out anti-Obama pamphlets. Otherwise, you know, Curry seemed like a pretty good guy. Which was kind of peculiar since Obama had been out of office for 10 years. Yeah, but yeah. Okay, I didn't do too much with this story. I just have the one there the original rundown that came out on PBS is worth playing because if you think of it as somehow this seems to me to be like if you wanted a perfect script

10:11 For Obama to come out and say enough's enough. Yeah, you so you say it's pretty much what he said a tick He said this is not normal. I think was his exact quote Yeah, something and he said you know you we can't put it in your Obama really does have it Have it on his checklist to do something about guns gun violence even though it's not gonna help anything in Chicago I'll tell you Facebook lost its collective crap over this and You just and people again, it's so disheartening people who I know very well, you know, like time for the president to ban all guns Time for the president. Yeah hair hair Obama. Yeah monarch this is and I don't understand how people can even think that that will happen ever and

10:57 You know, you should put up a little web, just a small webpage about it. No, no, no, no. About the Second Amendment. No, I need to get invited to these parties. I don't want to be banned up front. Well, no, it would be an anonymous little website. that says repeal the Second Amendment and then point people to it and have a bunch of really screwball arguments, you know, stuff that's just nuts, and put it on the website and then just leave it there as a standalone, not an active site, just kind of a brochure. And they say, well, if you feel that way, go here, and just point them to that. If you won't do it, I will, right after I finish my two books.

11:36 So here's the Planned Parenthood scene. And now if you think of the thing as like a set up to find some nutcase and send him over to the who, which he, what he looks like and send him over to do a shoot up the place. You think of it as a scenario. a play, a script with actors, and then substitute the word, when the policewoman says the word scene, think of it as a Broadway play. A gunman is holed up inside a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs tonight, wounding multiple people and engaging in gun battles with police. Police said they are trying to evacuate as many people from the building as they can. They haven't yet identified the suspect.

12:17 Lieutenant Catherine Buckley with the Colorado Springs Police Department briefed reporters a short time ago. There are an unknown amount of casualties. at this point. We know that this scene is going to be going on for the next several hours because there are items that the suspect took with him to the Planned Parenthood building that we have to check out once the scene is stabilized. This is not a stabilized scene at this time. What I read, and all the headlines screamed, you know, crazy guy, Planned Parenthood shooting. And then somewhere on the second or third paragraph, New York Times, Washington Post, everything, Guardian, it would say, well, you know, it's unclear what his motive was or where he really started shooting. It appears he may have started shooting out near the bank and across the parking lot. But because some unnamed law enforcement officer, unnamed source,

13:14 claims that he heard the guy mutter something about baby parts when they were arresting him. Therefore, it's obvious what happened. And at this point, at this point, what difference does it make? No one will care about the truth anymore. It's done. People check out of these stories. Yeah, no matter what I make their quick generalization. They're done here And then you have the little racial comments that start showing up. He's black. They would have gunned him down That was yeah, that was very strange But that it'd be and I caught a professor at one of the colleges some Asian guy saying they're the worst amount on Twitter Okay, oh boy. That's a racist shameful. Yeah, I

13:57 Yeah, I mean, you can yell racist at anybody if you want to start playing that game. Well, it's the same, I considered, in fact, I caught myself actually going to look for the thread on Facebook with my professor when we were talking about Clock Boy. I'm like, oh, this would have never happened if his name was Todd or Tim or John and not Ahmed. And now this little douche knuckle boy is suing for $15 million. And I got to post that. I got to post it on these A-holes, Facebook timeline and I gave up on it, but you know, just give up. What do you, I mean, what, what do you, what do you want to say about that? It's like, is this, if the guy was named Tim or John or Jeff, would he be suing for $15 million? And probably not. It's probably not. Yeah.

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

Global Protests, Syria Bombing, and Chicago Stare-Down

Anti-war protests in London against David Cameron's plan to bomb Syria are highlighted, with the hosts noting the professional quality of the signage. The discussion shifts to Chicago, focusing on Lamon Ricord, a protester who engaged in a silent "stare-down" with a police officer. The hosts debate the appropriateness of such tactics and suggest humorous ways for police to handle close-proximity protesters.

london· syria· david cameron· chicago· lamon ricord· first amendment

14:46 Meanwhile in Chicago There's but one thing that we that went on during the week that we didn't discuss because we didn't do a show on Thursday is protests everywhere yeah, I have like this was protest week hold I have What is it it's not just in the u.s.. Actually no no it's happening everywhere, which I like I like it I like protest week, but you know I I see a lot of very professionally made signs. They're all professionally made. There was protests in London. There were protests in London over the bomb. You know, Cameron wants to bomb Syria because it's like they've got a bunch of extra bombs. They don't know quite what to do with them. And so they think they can just drop them over there and that gets rid of them. It's like a recycling program.

15:38 And so the protests are going on in London, tons of them with people holding up these Don't Bomb Syria signs which have obviously been printed by the same people because there's thousands of this exact same sign. Here, I have a clip. Just kind of getting the gig giveaway. I have a clip. I have a clip. Making their voices heard as Britain weighs up whether to take military action against ISIL in Syria. Anti-war activists have taken to the streets of London to reject any extension of airstrikes already underway in Iraq. The government wants a green light from MPs as early as next week. We're very much opposed to David Cameron's plans to have a vote in Parliament to bomb Syria. The bombing has already been going on for more than a year by other forces. At the moment Syria is being bombed by the two biggest military powers in the world, the United States and Russia.

16:24 Despite his casual look, this is a tense time for Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn, for while the veteran left-winger is personally opposed to bombing, his parliamentary party is deeply divided. Spain has no immediate plans to get involved in airstrikes, but pacifist protesters in Madrid are also determined to have their say, with less than a month to go before the country's general election. Yes, actually so that's going on there. Well, and did you see this this kid the stare-down kid? I'm calling him who? In Chicago, oh that when it gets the cop yeah, but this guy is a professional

17:07 He has all, there was some research done on him that I stumbled across and he seems to be very cozy hanging out with the teachers union a lot. With the president of the teachers union, with the vice president of the teachers union. He's a professional stare down specialist. Professional stare down artist, yeah. Wow, that's a good catch. Yeah, here's Megan Kelly on it. Just want to jump in as we're seeing an extraordinary moment. Look what's happening here. Listen, you're going to have guys like this, you know, they want to instigate, they want to create a... What is he instigating, Bernie? I'm sorry, I've got to interrupt. Richard, look at him. This is a cop out there accused of doing nothing wrong, trying to keep the peace. This guy is having a silent protest with his police officer.

17:52 It gets right in his face and stares him down? This cop hasn't done anything wrong. That is his First Amendment right, Megan. To get in a cop's face and stare him down? This is his First Amendment right. I don't understand. You think that's fine? You have no problem with this? This is his First Amendment right. It's not a question of what his constitutional rights are, it's a question of what's appropriate. His name is Lamon Ricord. R-I-C-C-O-R-D. Well, for police that listen to the show, I have a concept, because this could happen to anybody, I suppose. But I would say that if you could carry one clove of garlic in your mouth... Pop that into your face and breathe back. Start chewing it, and then just... Which is, you know, it burns a little bit, but you can get milder garlics.

18:42 and then just kind of rough and puff, right? Could you please... The guy will back off. We'd like to know what kind of milder garlic. Do you have a brand name that we can... I mean, there's just different varieties of garlic. You can find this... Everywhere you go, there's somebody that's a garlic nut that grows garlic and they have all these different varieties you can get. You want to get one that doesn't burn too much but still has a stench and then you can chew on it and then... I guarantee the guy would back off. If I eat garlic bread, that's one of the worst things to really be close to. And of course, you exude the skin. I was going to say, if you take it way in advance, it'll just exude through all your pores. Right, but it's not quite the same as coming out of your breath as this guy standing one inch from you. John, your crowd tactics are noteworthy, my friend. Thank you. Yeah, noteworthy. So this guy is a paid shill, and what's disappointing, of course, is that...

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

Laquan McDonald Shooting Video and Chicago Police Corruption

The release of the dashcam video showing the shooting of Laquan McDonald by officer Jason Van Dyke is scrutinized for its political timing. The hosts suggest Mayor Rahm Emanuel delayed the video's release to protect his re-election. A news clip regarding the gang-related death of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee is also analyzed for a verbal gaffe regarding police involvement.

laquan mcdonald· rahm emanuel· jason van dyke· chicago police· blackout friday

19:37 And no one is doing any research into the guy. And look at him, he's media friendly, he looks great, he's doing everything very, very well. But he is, well, the technical term would be an agent provocateur. Yes. Well, I have a couple of clips because Chicago was...this was over an event that took place over a year ago and then they...well, play this, play this protesters in Chicago odd clip. Thousands of protesters marched through Chicago's rainy retail district today, voicing their anger against the shooting death of a black teenager by a Chicago policeman last year.

20:17 The magnificent mile on Chicago's Michigan Avenue the day after Thanksgiving, usually filled with holiday shoppers, today flooded with protesters. Thousands marched along the main artery, while others blocked store entrances to take part in so-called Blackout Friday. Their goal? To shut down the busy retail district to protest the shooting death of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald.

20:52 We have to come together. And it's power and impact when you touch the economy. And that's what we're trying to do. The police are murdering people in the city with no repercussions. They can't do that. You charge one officer and there's hundreds of other children dead with no charges. Today's demonstrations are the latest since the city's police department released video Tuesday night of the shooting. It showed officer Jason Van Dyke, who is white, firing at McDonald, who was black, 16 times. Most struck him while he was on the ground. McDonald, who was holding a knife, had allegedly punctured the tires of a police car.

21:33 Prior to the video's release, Van Dyke was charged with first-degree murder. But today, many, including the Reverend Jesse Jackson, one of the event's organizers, said protests will continue. Yeah, when Jesse Jackson shows up, you know there's a scam going on. Yes, extortion. Now let's go over a couple of points here. One, the guy was charged with murder. It was a year ago. How does a year ago match up with the following? What do we want? Justice. When do we want it? Now. It appeared to me, the way this all happened, is we had a very embarrassing situation for the president. Everything was kicking loose in Syria with the Turks and with the Russians. And it's almost as if a call went out and it was like, hey, get Rahm on the phone! Get Rahm on the phone! Come on! Hey, Rahm, remember that video you pulled about a year ago to make sure that nothing endangered your re-election campaign? Well, time to release it, brah.

22:38 The timing was obvious. Now, I have a clip too and there's a gaffe in here. And one other thing before you play that clip. Why is it always the teacher unions? Do you remember when I went to Occupy LA and I walked around with the sign, don't drone me bro. And I went to the tent camp and. Yeah, yeah, it was a while back. Right. And with, yeah, it was 2012, I guess. I don't know. And within 15 minutes I discovered, oh, wait a minute. There's a microphone here, but the only people allowed on the microphone were the people affiliated with the teachers union who at that point co-opted the entire entire Occupy movement. Yeah, I Maybe who is this teacher these teacher unions must be very strong. Well in Chicago. Yes, okay. Well, it's not everywhere. Oh

23:27 In California for sure. We play two, this is Find the Gaff in this because I think there's kind of a subtle little thing going on here. What am I playing? This is Chicago 2, Find the Gaff. In a separate Chicago case today police announced first-degree murder charges against a man suspected in the death of a nine-year-old boy as gang retaliation. Police believe 27 year old Corey Morgan and two others lured Taishan Lee from a park into an alley and killed him earlier this month. It was evidently to get back at the boy's father. Chicago Police Superintendent Gary McCarthy said the arrest was made possible by police coming forward with information. Wait a minute.

24:11 Police coming forward with information? Were they part of the gang? How did that work? That was the gaffe. That's bigger than a gaffe. I don't know where she got it. If it was on the script, because she's a reader. Let me just hear that. Let me hear the read again, because that was intense. This month, it was evidently to get back at the boy's father. Chicago Police Superintendent Gary McCarthy said the arrest was made possible by police coming forward with information. Strange. It should have been written public. Yeah, oh. Because they went into a package after that about how the public helped. Well, you know, maybe she just misread it. It's possible. Police, public. That's a really bad misread, if true. Anyway, there's nobody protesting the shooting of a little nine-year-old by gangs.

24:58 But it's okay, you know. Yeah, well this of course has now become a Republican talking point, not that I'm accusing you of that. Well, I don't know that because I haven't been watching it. Yeah, I do, because I actually was... Teeny the Keeper turned me on to that story about the nine-year-old and two days later, you know, it was all over the face bag. Well, I relent. It's okay. It's okay, it's okay. Let's see there. There was just so much happening. Well, that's the way we're on the thing with protests. And yeah, let's stick with that because I have another bunch of short clips because the other protests this one was extremely well organized worldwide. Yes, I know what you're talking about. The COP 21 event is taking place. And let us remember a little memory refresher.

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

COP21 Climate Summit and Global Environmental Protests

The COP21 climate summit in Paris is framed as a major globalist event, with Prince Charles linking the Syrian conflict to climate-induced droughts. Protests in Auckland, Brisbane, and Manila are reviewed, with the hosts mocking the specific demands of activists, such as the plea to keep the Philippines "above sea level."

cop21· paris· prince charles· climate change· refugees· auckland

25:49 that it is very fortuitous that we had this horrible event take place in Paris, so all eyes are focused on Paris for the COP21 climate change event. And as we know, reiterated by Prince Charles... There's very good evidence indeed that... Indeed? That one of the major reasons for this horror in Syria, Falunaf, has been a... was a drought that lasted for about five or six years. Ooh. Which meant that huge numbers of people in the end had to leave the land because the water ran out, their crops failed and so on. And increasingly they came into the cities already full of Iraqi refugees from that horror and that crisis. And this combined to create a very difficult situation. It's bad enough now with refugees, we think what it's going to be like if we don't deal with the problem

26:45 which is actually helping to cause it because the conflict very often comes from movement of people as a result of not being able to survive. So are you suggesting that there is there is a link between climate change and and conflict? Absolutely. Well, one of our producers sent in, I'll put it in the next newsletter so everyone should keep tabs on that. The next newsletter will have this picture. One of our producers sent a picture of a poster in, I guess it was in Dublin or Edinburgh, I think it was Dublin. It was one of the, it was on the island. I think it's Edinburgh.

27:26 And burr. Burr. Burr. And it's a picture of these... It says climate causes, you know... Anal leakage. It causes refugees or something along those lines. And it's huge. It's like covers a whole church or some facade of some sort. Anyway, so there's these coordinated protests around the world all in the same day at the same time. How does that happen? I don't know. But there's all about, you know, we got to do something about climate change. This is probably the...and I was thinking about this. This is probably the most subversive thing that we've seen.

28:03 And the fact that governments are going along with it is kind of surprising to me when you have the prince there, that guy. Well, okay. I have some contra noises, but yeah. Well, you can do that, but let's play a couple of these. Let's start with COP 21 protests. Okey dokey. While 150 world leaders are arriving in Paris for UN climate talks where they hope to agree on how to reduce greenhouse emissions to help control global warming. Yeah, that's not where they're really there, but okay. As thousands of people have started to demonstrate in different parts of the world to call for a strong outcome of the climate conference as Shana Bhattacharya reports.

28:43 A haka for the planet. In Auckland, thousands said no to more oil exploration and yes to saving the Pacific Islands at risk of being submerged by rising waters. I'm not with a particular group, just really care about these talks and the future of the planet and I feel like this is one thing I can do. Now, before I go on, That voice at the end. Yeah. Is like an ask Adam. I want to I have an ISO on it play the ISO so you can get I want you to visualize what this woman looks like. Okay, I'm closing. She's a New Zealander. Usually good looking New Zealanders are usually pretty good looking. Well play the clip and then describe her. Okay, closing my eyes and go. These talks in the future of the planet and I feel like this is one thing I can do. Oh, she's a redhead.

29:40 No? I don't know. I don't remember that part. Oh, I'm sorry. Wrong again! I'm sure- I'm- no, okay, well let me listen again. Let me just see if I can figure this one out. Because you're asking me for a specific reason, no doubt. These, um, talks on the future of the planet and I feel like this is one thing I can do. She was a redhead with a limp. Give me her age. She's a middle-aged okay, and Redhead got a limp good-looking all right. She's about I'm wait wait wait. She's a twerp

30:26 That's good. Yeah, I like all that okay, but it's not anything, but she's it's all she's smoking 19 year old She's like a millennial really good-looking one. She's not like an old hag I'm thinking the wood are all the women in New Zealand. Do they all talk like this like some old like I feel screwed Well, she's quite pretty. But I know why they came. I know why they came because they heard the president's call. As one Parisian said, Paris will always be Paris. And next week I will be joining President Hollande and world leaders in Paris for the global climate conference. What a powerful rebuke to the terrorists

31:19 It will be when the world stands as one and shows that we will not be deterred from building a better future for our children. A very loaded comment. One, of course, all terrorists are shaking their boots. That's obvious. But it's so beautiful because what the president is saying here, I'll roll it back just eight seconds. He's saying It's a fact, it's a given fact. We are going to join hands globally mano a mano, womano a womano and we're going to show them terrorists. What a powerful rebuke to the terrorists it will be. The world stands as one and shows that we will not be deterred from building a better future for our children. Take that terrorist! We're driving battery cars! Screw ya!

32:10 Alright, I'm gonna before I go on with my other clips which are very you know They're just interesting because they're from everywhere in the world I want to hear that thesis of yours that rebukes my Commentary that this is a subversive Crazy crazy subversive movement. I know I was I was rebuking something else you said I Okay, well then let's play a few more. Yeah, play a few more and then I'll slide into it. Top 21-2. Okay... Australians were the first to take to the streets on Saturday. In Brisbane, close to 5,000 people demanded a cleaner and fairer world. With its large mining sector, Australia is one of the biggest carbon dioxide producers on the planet. Mining was on the minds of activists in South Africa as well, where 90% of electricity comes from coal. Let's just shut down everything.

33:11 I'm telling you, this is not good. Play COP 21-3. This is an important one. COP 21-3, sea level? Yes. In Manila, religious dignitaries led the climate march. Students and environmental activists followed, demanding change to allow the Philippines to stay above sea level. Wait a minute! Wait, wait, wait. Did someone actually have a sign that said, keep us above sea level? Did that happen at all? I'm sure. Let me hear that again. That was pretty, I think it is. In Manila, religious dignitaries led the climate march. Students and environmental activists followed, demanding change to allow the Philippines to stay above sea level. Oh yeah, you got it.

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

Climate Finance Instruments and Global Innovation Lab

The financial mechanisms behind climate policy are explored, focusing on the Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance. The "Climate Investor One" fund is identified as a vehicle for government-seeded investments in renewable energy in developing nations. The hosts criticize the "one big check" construction financing model and the use of complex financial instruments to guarantee returns for institutional investors.

climate finance· global innovation lab· climate investor one· institutional investors· derivatives

34:04 And you knew it. Then you knew it. Then you knew it. You knew it. I knew it was funny. Well, let me roll out a couple things here before you continue with your protest. So here is now. Now, I took a little different tact. I'm very interested in what the deals really are. What is really happening? We know that there's this two degrees is that's just for the stupid people. That's so we just remember something simple. Oh, yeah, we need to keep we cool it down two degrees. That's a that's simple. But it's really all about the money. You raise one important issue and that is climate finance so far with the target of climate finance, baby Love this term hundred billion. We've reached between private and public sources 62 billion and that target did not need to be met until

34:57 and It will just mean that we're in a less competitive position. I think one of the main vehicles for this climate finance. And would you know, it's partially funded by the Dutch government. And the Dutch are... Non-profits in Holland are rampant. I think half of all businesses are probably non-profit. It's very strange and, you know, well, actually not strange. What happens in a socialist government?

35:56 You got all these little nonprofits funded, little bits and bobs. And one of them is the Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance. So I looked into this outfit and I have two clips. It's very obvious you've got financial people who are not media stars at all, but I know how this goes. You set up your nonprofit, okay, we got the money and we're going to get this going, okay, we need to put some promotional material out there, and then they have the founders, often people who are just not really media savvy. I have two clips. One is the guy who is within the Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance and he is leading something called Climate Investor One.

36:41 Now, this may sound like a strange name, it's like a spaceship, but no, this is very typical for fund management. Because you'll have Kleiner Perkins 5, right? I said right, geez, sorry. I'm talking, when I talk about Silicon Valley companies, I start talking like Silicon Valley douchebag. So, they just give it a number. So, this is Climate Investor 1, formerly known as the Climate Development and Finance Facility. And what you're saying, the way you're describing it, is that this is a fund like a Kleiner Perkins Fund, like it was that they made money on, by the way, or one, two, and three. It's worse than that. No, it's worse than that.

37:21 So I can't invest in this? Yes, you can. But it's not exactly like a Kleiner Perkins fund because the initial seed money, which I believe is, I think they've collected 50 or $60 million. comes from governments. The idea is you invest in this fund, and this fund, I think it's in the clip here, I think they intend to build it to $2 billion. And this is just one, just one little rinky dink operation partially run by the Dutch. So this is not a big deal. This is the first one I've really found with a lot of information. And they are pretty much guaranteeing investors

37:59 Guaranteed by the nations who back this fund that you'll never lose your money. And what they do with this money is they invest it in solar and wind projects in poor countries, which of course will be a bonanza for corporations investing in it because you have no downside. You only have Upside. Listen to the explanation of Climate Investor One. to provide an end-to-end financing solution for wind, solar and hydro projects. The facility supports projects at various stages and at the outset will support developers through the provision of commercial, technical and financial assistance. During construction stage, the facility will cut out complex negotiations by providing a large single check to fund construction through to the operation stage. This was my favorite part.

39:00 But of all financing I've ever heard of in my entire life, when it comes to construction, Yeah. One big check. Never is there one big check. I'd rather be on the other side of this deal. Well, I think that's the idea is that you want to be one of the economic hitmen executors who goes in and takes the big check and, yeah, we'll build something. Don't worry about it. Every construction project I've ever known of, you get a piece here to start. We check how you're doing. Then we get you the next piece. No. Otherwise you get ripped off. One big check, everybody. What did you do with my big check? I don't see anything. Well, you know we need more money. I think it's actually one of those giant checks, the real big ones that you give out. A single check to fund construction through the operation stage. Once operational, the facility provides an access to institutional investors

39:51 to invest and get access and exposure to... And mind you, institutional investors, very important. Institutional investors are not just you and I. I'll tell you what that means. That means everybody out there, your retirement funds are screwed. Once operational, the facility provides an access to institutional investors to invest and get access and exposure to operating stable assets in attractive investment jurisdictions. Over the next six years, we are hopeful of building out at least 10 new projects, mobilizing something of $2 billion. We hope that will connect some of our 4.5 million new customers to power. Hold on a second. $2.5 billion will connect 4,000 customers to power. No, it was more than 4,000. I don't think so. No. Hold on. Roll it back and let me see.

40:52 million. Maybe I just misunderstood what he was saying. Something of two billion dollars. We hope that will connect four and a half million new customers to power. Why did I think that was? Avert one and a half tons of CO2 emissions. One and a half tons? What? My car delivers more than that! That's nothing! That is absolutely nothing! Isn't the price of one ton of carbon like 30 bucks? This can't be right, but yes, here he is saying it. Of CO2 emissions. Wait, let me just play back. He said one and a half tons, moron. We hope that will connect four and a half million new customers to power, avert one and a half tons of CO2 emissions.

41:42 as well as create something in the order of 8,000 jobs. All of that done at a cost in the order of 15 to 18 percent lower than business as usual at the moment. Climate Investor One has been developed. I know, I know, I know. And supported by FMO, the Dutch Development Bank, and Phoenix Infraworks. Hold on a second. We've got our money in this fund and we can spend it better than somebody who's doing it commercially? Apparently ridiculous extreme apparently still money the money can only buy so much you can buy a bolt But John you know what the secret is the secret is one big magic one big check. It's one big check the one big check That's what does it do you want to hear the two founders of this outfit you want to hear them from the keep playing? This is interesting. Okay. Here's that was over. Here's the the two founders one guy is a real finance guy and

42:33 And I believe the other one, she may be Dutch, let me say. I'm Tom Heller, executive director of Climate Policy Initiative, which serves as the secretariat for the Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance. The secretariat. I'm Barbara Buchner, I'm senior director of Climate Policy Initiative and I am managing... No, she's not Dutch. Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance. Global Innovation Lab. As nations work to address climate change, access to finance has emerged as a critical element. Enough capital exists to move the world on a low-carbon, climate-resilient economy. However, current investments in climate-friendly development fall far short of the need.

43:15 This is particularly true in developing countries, which are often unable to attract private investment. money guy, doesn't give a shit about you, your kids or the earth or anything. To low carbon and climate resilient activities. And this resilient activities is a joke. So climate resilient activities. Well, I think sleeping is a climate resilient activity. Napping. Napping for humanity. Yes. All of that is valid. Napp for humanity.

43:54 at the scale needed to reach their emissions and energy access goals. As we move toward and beyond Paris this year, the need for action is on the ground. On the ground. The Global Innovation Lab for Climate Finance addresses these challenges by identifying, developing, stress testing and launching cutting-edge climate finance instruments. Now, that is banking! Cutting edge usually means high risk. Financial instruments is bonds. It's Derivatives can make anything any Bitcoin could be it could be anything you can yeah You can just as long as you can create it and package it up and add about you know about 1,000 pages of legalese Yeah, which is what it always amounts to and it's annoying that these people aren't you know the audio jail?

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

African Development, China Competition, and Climate Resilience

The geopolitical struggle for influence in Africa is discussed, suggesting that Western climate finance initiatives are designed to counter Chinese expansion on the continent. The term "climate resilience" is mocked as a meaningless corporate buzzword used to justify agricultural and infrastructure projects funded by the Dutch Development Bank and other European entities.

africa· china· private equity· climate resilience· fmo· dutch development bank

44:49 That's annoying too. But what they're saying is highly important. This is what it comes down to. This is just one. Well, stop for a second, because one of the things that's not discussed in this, oh, the COP 21 and all the rest of it is China. And what they seem to be talking about here is Africa. Because that's the place where you can do all these development deals and the problem with Africa is the Chinese are coming in there and doing all these deals on their dime and And the term that I heard in the last with the last guy said was private equity. We need private We have some companies in there good, but they never mentioned China China's never mentioned in the COP 21 thing This is almost like something to stop China. I mean we're talking about Africa and talk about China, but we never talk about China it was addressed in the Senate hearing

45:38 Senator Brasso was talking to Todd Stern. He's from the State Department and, hold on a second, he has an interesting title. He is the United States Special Envoy for Climate Change, leading talks at the United Nations Climate Change Conferences and Smaller Sessions, appointed by the Secretary of State. And he was initially appointed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. His message is very clear and I have to say I enjoyed what he was saying Because we are pretty much out to screw everybody else we being murk I did you know I wonder if you think that it serves the interest of this country to establish a precedent that international commitments are made in a manner designed to towards the constitutionally derived oversight role of

46:31 of congress and what he's saying is a whole and second if you guys can be making some kind of deals over there you better make sure that we assign off on that's what he's worried about the answer is somewhat surprising united states senate it why not i i i would not think that would serve the interest of the country and uh... mister chairman we are we are going to uh... look at the agreement once we have an agreement uh... and we will evaluate uh... at that time uh... but And we will act fully in accordance with law. As you know, there are different procedures by which the United States has historically and continues to

47:14 Join international agreement, so we will act fully in accordance with law. We don't know yet What the agreement is going to say so does the administration plan to submit any climate change agreement produced in Paris to the Senate for its advice and consent? Mr.. Chairman we don't know yet what the what the elements of the agreement are going to be it's hard to speculate at this time we have as I as I said we're trying to we're pushing hard for an agreement that does not include a binding targets which are kind of the heart of the agreement. So we're looking for something that is not binding in that regard. So this is something that is not legally binding if there are parts that are. I love this. Yeah, we're going there but we're not really gonna do anything for real. Crazy.

47:58 We're going to non-binding, non-binding agreements. But what's the point? It's pointless. It is going to be a good time for everybody. They all go into Paris. Oh, no. Everybody's already there. They just stayed on. In fact, Amy Goodman went. She didn't go during the crisis. She went now because she wants to be there a whole week. And so she takes off. I guess on Thursday, because the whole Friday Democracy Now, which I hope to get some clips from, was...the entire show was devoted to some guy's lecture, which they played the whole lecture of this guy, and they never had any news at all. I mean, even we... Even we had a clip show. We had a clip show. Want to hear some more of these climate finance people, or are you done with them? Play a little more.

48:46 The lab brings together high-level members from the public and private sectors, and by drawing on the experience of its membership and the climate finance community at large, it moves quickly from talk to action. Talk to action. In just over a year of operation, the lab has launched four climate finance instruments that have collectively already raised nearly 200 million U.S. dollars in initial funding. These initiatives include first Climate Investor One, or formerly known as the Climate Development and Finance Facility, which will fast-track renewable energy projects in developing countries.

49:23 Second, the agricultural supply chain and adaptation facility, which we partner with agribusiness companies to help local farmers make climate resilient agriculture in the future. Climate resilient agriculture. This is the biggest bullcrap term I've ever heard. Climate resilient. You know what? What does that even mean? It means you're resilient to climate. Water resistant, I think is the saying. This watch is climate resistant. The lab members by the way, resilient, I'm sorry. The lab members, the lab, great to call it a lab, these are all African companies. So we have principal,

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

UNICEF AIDS Report and Energy Savings Insurance

A UNICEF report stating that AIDS is the leading cause of death for African teenagers is contrasted with climate change narratives. The discussion returns to financial "scams," specifically "Energy Savings Insurance" and "Long-term Foreign Exchange Risk Management" instruments endorsed by the G7 to hedge currency risks in climate-relevant projects.

unicef· aids· africa· energy savings insurance· derivatives· g7

50:02 Oliver Andrews, CIO Africa Finance Corporation. We have Private Sector Africa Development Bank. We have, let's see, Moroccan Agency for Solar Energy. We have the BlackRock NTR Renewable Power Fund. Bullshit! We have, let's see, Allianz Climate Solutions. That's... This may be part of a bigger scheme which began in the 70s. And I have a clip, play it. Play the AIDS in Africa update. Ooh, okay. AIDS is now the main cause of death for African teenagers. Wait a minute, I thought they were dying from climate change.

50:45 The UN agency for children UNICEF reported that since 2000 AIDS related deaths have tripled in children between the ages of 10 and 19. One reason the global push to eradicate HIV focused on babies and not as much on the second decade of childhood. Oh, so we have that's the reason we have to kill them all. That's the reason. What a crock. We didn't do a good job. It's unbelievable. So this thing is truly the Brazilian Development Bank, of course they have a couple of dudes. Like they don't have enough problems of their own. Deutsche Bank. Yeah, oh yeah. A couple more seconds.

51:28 Third, the energy savings insurance, which will ensure the value of savings generated by energy efficiency investments. Energy savings insurance. Everybody's in on the scam, John. Everybody except us. And fourth, the long term foreign exchange risk management instrument. That's now this is pure derivatives, long term currency exchange. What you call it? Investment protection or something. But that's what you use derivatives for. Ensure the value of savings generated by energy efficiency investments. And fourth, the long-term foreign exchange risk management instrument, which will provide the tools to address both currency and interest rate risks related to climate relevant projects in developing countries. Oh, God.

52:17 How to hedge your money. These guys are pros. Yes. You know how to do this stuff. Have been endorsed by the G7. If they're piloted and replicated at scale, they have the potential to unlock billions of climate finance in and for developing countries. Building on the success of the first year, the lab has launched a second cycle and is also working to expand into India. And we are looking forward to the next generation of instruments that can make an impact on the ground. Expand into India from where? Wherever they want to do it from. Africa. Yeah. So this is mainly Africa. Yeah. So this is all about money. We are not going to commit to anything binding.

CHAPTER 11 / 29 Discussion

US Special Envoy Todd Stern and Non-Binding Agreements

US Special Envoy for Climate Change Todd Stern's testimony before the Senate is reviewed, highlighting the administration's push for non-binding targets to avoid the need for Senate advice and consent. The hosts conclude that the COP21 summit is primarily about the movement of money rather than enforceable environmental standards.

todd stern· senate· climate finance· barack obama· paris agreement

53:06 And I didn't play the very end of that Todd Stern clip. He says, you know, well, we already kind of preset our deal with China, which you know is just bogative. There's nothing. Nothing. Well, I might as well play the last COP 21 clip, which is number four. Well, before you do that, I have one last one that I'll put up. What is it? Number four? Yeah. You raise one important issue and that is climate finance. So far with a target of 100 billion we've reached between private and public sources 62 billion and that target did not need to be met

53:47 until 2020 based on our original commitments. So we're all, we're well on our way to meeting these commitments. A hundred billion? Yeah, that's my hollow tooth. A hundred billion? Yeah. I have potholes out here on Highway 80 that need fixing. It's a smart investment for us to make. Smart investment even the president is talking about investments. It's not I agree. We have other things we can invest in Yeah, like the potholes eating these commitments and it's a smart investment for us to make You know sometimes back home critics will argue. Oh, there's no point in us doing something about getting our house in order when it comes to climate change because other countries won't do anything and

54:33 I'm sorry we played that just it was bad enough So here the reason I want to play this fourth clip is because after everybody runs out of all this bullcrap like the Philippines will be underwater that sort of thing. It's under sea level. Under sea level. Somehow. And then it's like what do we what you have to have protests over what do you think Tokyo that would give you a guess here. I'm going to stop the clip and say what do you think that the Japanese are going to complain about. about being underwater. No, and that you would have never guessed this. This is in the clip. In Tokyo, Japanese protesters raised their voices too, concerned about the number of animals going extinct due to climate change.

55:29 Of course I could have known everything is because of this I found one more way system bit This is an astonishing thing we were witnessing. Oh it is this will be written Hundreds of years after we're dead and gone this will be written about the baby maybe TX TC X fund is another one of these outfits, this is the the currency exchange fund for climate resilience. They have this climate resilience. Yes, and they have products we have by providing hedging instruments, TCX facilities facilitates the establishment of a local currency business line for its investor and clients.

56:13 So, TCS can hedge the lender, TCS can hedge the borrower. You don't think anyone's in the middle making money, do you? Somehow? Not yet, but there's got to be some credit default swap vehicles out there that should be purchasable by the average guy somehow, if you can even find out about it. Most of these things are secret. So, the Currency Exchange Fund is a special purpose fund that provides OTC derivatives. That's pink slips. Pink slips. To hedge the currency and interest rate mismatch that is created in cross-border investments between international investors and local borrowers in frontier and less liquid emerging markets. The goal is to promote long-term local currency financing. To achieve this objective, TCX acts as a market maker in currencies and maturities not covered by commercial banks or other providers. Notably, there are no offshore markets, no long-term hedging, or in extreme cases, no... We need to get Horowitz on this.

57:08 What we need to do we probably say the same thing as those you know this is all kept under wraps unless you're part of the game Yeah, that's true. That is the problem. It's true Just in all the people involved in this oh This is one woman from Holland who's and who's the leading one of these? non-profits just oh I Did make my skin crawl people Anyway, all right, so I think I think that's all we have for COP 21 waiting just waiting for it all to kick off. I'm sure there'll be plenty of things to talk about. Do you have anything else on this? No, I think I'm done with COP 21. I think, you know, it's it'll.

57:54 I'm expecting to just, you know, watch Amy Goodman. She's going to be there gushing over her. And her hair will look great. I saw Brooke from... Her hair will not look great. I saw Brooke from CNN wearing like a pink scarf over her head. Yeah, but very Parisian. Yes, I'm in Paris now. I'm wearing a Parisian headgear. Oh yes, it's lovely. Douches all of them. Well, the real problem is it's freezing there at this time. So everyone will be inside eating. The optics are never good for climate change of global warming when it's really freezing outside. It's just, it doesn't look good. I don't see why these people don't get that. Seems so simple. Do it in May or April. This would be a good time to be in Rio. Well, with that, I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. where the C stands for climate resilience. Dvorak.

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producers and 777 Club Donations

The hosts acknowledge high-value donors for episode 777, including Sir Mark Workman and Eric Fischel. Sir Thomas Nussbaum is recognized for his contributions and the closing of his "No Agendization" store. The segment includes the reading of various "Mile High Club" donations and notes from the "Associate Executive Producers."

mark workman· eric fischel· thomas nussbaum· mile high club· executive producers

58:44 Well, in the morning to you and also in the morning to all the ships at sea and in the morning to all the boots on the ground and feet in the air and the subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. And in the morning to everybody in the chatroom. Welcome back. Good to see you all for our live show. We do it on Thursdays and Sundays, noagendastream.com. Anybody in the chatroom? There's people in the chatroom. Yeah, there's people in the chatroom. What if they were in the chatroom during the Thanksgiving show? Most definitely. Most definitely, I would say. Oh yeah, people's hooting it up. I want to thank Spades85. who provided the artwork for episode 776.5. It was very nice of the fat lady, we presume, the fat climate lady. I also want to thank you to go out to Mike DuPont who gave us one of those Eiffel Tower pictures I use in a newsletter and he deserves credit. Very nice. You can see all of the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.com. And now we have multiple podcast clients

59:43 able to portray artwork by episode So if you look at your podcast player, and not all of them have it, we're working on getting more people to support the...otherwise, you know, this is part of the protocol, just people never...you know, there's so few podcasts that create fresh artwork for every episode that a lot of these podcast clients, they just say, we don't need to show it by episode. But when you see it, like the Windows podcast player does it, and I think Pocketcast does it and I want to get Overcast to do it and maybe iTunes very own podcast app would do it since I don't know. It's their special tag. It looks dynamite and I think it helps. I really do. So it's appreciated all you artists out there. Okay, there's a special episode today 777. 7777! We do have a few people to thank including Sir Mark Workman, the Baron of Galt's Galt's Gulch.

1:00:47 Gulch, Gulch's Gulch. And he sent us $789.10, we'll put him in the 777 club. And he sent no note. He sent a check with no note, just he noted that he's the baron of Gulch's Gulch. And there's nothing in email? No, he mailed it. There you have it. Now, no agendization came in with 777.77. Oh, really? Yes. How nice. Actually sent a note. He says we don't have to read it, but... Of course we're gonna read it. But he says, no note, he says, with a no-agenda donation, just thanks to the producers and even the boners for supporting the show in their various ways. It's a fantastic audience that gives... He's not listening right now. Maybe he is. He might be. It's a fantastic audience that gives a glimmer of hope that not everyone is

1:01:43 that not everyone are, is, are dull-eyed apathetic morons, which is what he thinks of the people that don't listen to the show. I guess he's had his own Obama-bot dinners. Yeah, I smell some frustration. Yeah, there's definitely something going on. Well, that's really cool. Thanks. That's Eric. Eric Fischel. Sir Thomas Nussbaum and he's closing his store at noageneration.com and shipping everything out on December 1st. So go check it out if you want to buy a cup. The thing I recommend is those mugs. Did you ever get any? Yeah, does he still have any lanyards? I like the lanyards a lot. He's got millions of lanyards. I gotta check and see. Yeah, lanyards and the wake up in the morning stickers. Yeah, this bumper stickers were, yeah, one of them is particularly nice. Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, 777.

1:02:30 And he does even note yeah, I see. Thank you for everything oh and one last chance to order one last chance Yeah, right to order from knowage in the nation great He does a nest bomb is a Baron yeah, sir Isaac of Altadena in Altadena, California three four five six seven and And he says, as current events unfold, the show becomes more and more important to everyone and history. Here's 34567 to help the cause. Gracias. And then we drop to executive, associate executive producers with... Meredith Bagwell? Yeah, where's Meredith's note? Did she send one in? I don't... doesn't seem like there's a note. I'll look it up an email and we'll give her a call out on... whoops. Hold on.

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1:04:53 Enslaved comatose in a slave comatose state before no agenda now have some dignity so contribute please play resist we much followed by two to the head and karma for all resist we much we must and we will much about that be committed you've got karma Dame Francine Hardaway closes out to the Associate Executive Producers for $200 in Phoenix, Arizona. I want to be part of the Mile High Club and be an Associate Executive Producer for show 777. Love you guys more and more over time. We're like a fine wine. We're like an aged meat. Yeah, that's what you want. Actually, you do. You want your meat to be a little aged. Yeah, we are aged meats. It became a controversy over the turkeys.

1:05:51 What? Your turkey, now we eat the turkeys we had from the...we're just butchered the day that we picked them up. And there's a controversy online if you look at you want to cook the turkey right away because a bunch of people do, oh, this is the best. Or do you want to let it sit for about two or three days to relax, which is, oh, that's the best. It was never resolved so we just ate the turkey. Anyway, so it could be us too. Anyway, I want to thank all these folks for contributing to their executive producership and associate executive producership. We also have a list of people that will get credited on the final tally for 777.

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

Tulsi Gabbard on Syrian Intervention and CIA Covert Ops

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard's appearance on CNN is featured, where she criticizes the US and CIA efforts to overthrow the Syrian government. Gabbard argues that arming "rebels" who are often Islamic extremists is illegal and counterproductive, potentially leading to a direct conflict with Russia and World War III. The hosts speculate on her political future following these outspoken remarks.

tulsi gabbard· syria· bashar al-assad· cia· wolf blitzer· world war iii

1:09:26 Oh, the license will continue. I mean, podcasting is really one of these mediums that it was invented for the revolution, you know, every day people say, oh, you're a media revolution. Well, let's face it. No revolution is going to be started on Facebook or Instagram. Change your icon. You didn't change your icon. Are you with us there against us? Oh, my goodness. Yeah. So please keep your podcasters rocking it. There's a new puppet on the scene who I had not heard of before, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. Have you ever heard of her? She is a Democrat from Hawaii. No. Now, I like her. She is, first of all, she's good looking. No, I will say she's hot.

1:10:18 Let me just double-check you would say that yeah, but I want to make sure I wrote that as a note to matter now You got me looking around Tulsi Gabbard. Let me see how I name. She's 34 no wonder she looked hot. She's 34. She's young and she's Yes, so as I said she's spelled Tulsi T L T ULS I Tulsi Gabbard well while you're looking her up I have a multiple parter here and I was blown away that she is even, well she has the balls to say it, but she came out and just said over and over again exactly what is happening with

1:10:55 With Assad, with the United States, with the rebels, with ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, call it whatever you want. And I like this lady. But there's a bigger issue here that I'm concerned with, and that is the fact that the US and the CIA are working to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad, while Russia, a longtime ally of Assad for decades now, is working to defend or uphold this Syrian government of Assad and this puts us in a position of a possible direct head-to-head conflict with Russia as long as the US and CIA continue down this path. She keeps saying CIA. She keeps... Yeah, she's gonna get a visit. Well, I think it's Brolf who's interviewing her. What do you think? Will Brolf say, hey, wait a minute, is the CIA doing this? Do we have covert operations there? Is this something that I should know about? Well, how does the US... Is he an idiot?

1:11:50 Why yes, yes. CIA continue down this path. Well how do you, how does the US and Russia avoid that head-on contact, because you're absolutely right. The US wants to get rid of Bashar al-Assad. The Russians want to boost him and protect him together with the Iranians, their allies, the Lebanese Hezbollah group. They're trying to prop him up. What? He's going on and on and blah blah blah blah blah. How do you avoid that potential collision? Very simple. The US and the CIA should stop this illegal and counterproductive war to overthrow the Syrian government. Illegal and unproductive war. Attention Hawaii, attention Hawaii, you should not go into any hot pools.

1:12:28 Assad and should stay focused on fighting against who our enemy is, the Islamic extremist groups. Because right now we're seeing why this is counterproductive. By working towards that end, by working towards overthrowing the Syrian government of Assad, we are not only strengthening our enemy, the Islamic extremists, who will walk in and take over all of the country of Syria. Right now they have about half of the country under their control. But it also puts us in that position of a potential direct head-to-head conflict with Russia, which brings us to the brink of a potential larger conflict of a World War III type situation. She's speaking my language. How could she? She's crazy. She's in the wrong party. She should be a Republican. She's one of the two female combat veterans along with Tammy Duckworth. That's right. She is in Congress. And she was, she's actually an American Samoan and a Hindu. That's why she's so pretty.

1:13:23 Those bloodlines make her look dynamite. She had a couple more things to say to our friend, Brolf. This is, well, some very obvious advice. Maybe you should not be arming these morons. Why do you say the US effort to get rid of Bashar al-Assad's regime is counterproductive and illegal? Why? Because it is. Because it all is, bro. Well, first of all, there's not been a vote in Congress to authorize the use of force, to authorize a war, to overthrow a sovereign government. And she is right. The only authorization of military force, which the president keeps saying he wants to have a new version of, is for those responsible for the 9-11 attacks. That is the literal text

1:14:05 of the authorization of the use of military force. So we do not have an upgraded one, unless you want to call these guys still part of that original operation 15 years ago. For as long as I've been there, that hasn't happened. It didn't happen before I got there. So the American people haven't had a choice to speak their voice to approve or disapprove such a war. Therefore, it's illegal. Secondly, it is counterproductive because right now US arms are getting into the hands of our enemy, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, these other groups, Islamic extremist groups who are our sworn enemy. These are groups who attacked us on 9-11 and who supposedly were trying to defeat yet at the same time supporting them with these arms to overthrow the Syrian government. So you don't even want the US to provide weapons or arms to

1:14:49 to these anti-Bashar al-Assad rebels. I don't want the U.S. government to provide weapons to al-Qaeda, to Islamic extremists, to our enemy. I think it's a very simple concept in my mind that you can't defeat your enemy if you're arming them and helping them at the same time. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Have you told this to officials at the White House? We've had conversations both in hearings and otherwise. I think it's important for the American people to stand up and say, look, we don't want to go and do what happened in Iraq with Saddam Hussein, do what happened in Libya with Gaddafi because these are countries that have fallen into chaos and that have been taken over by these terrorists because of the actions that the United States and others took.

1:15:31 And she pretty much brings it all home by saying, hey, you want more of what we've seen in the past? Then continue on this path. Yeah, well, if it concerns me deeply to see this tremendous and tragic human suffering, I think it's important for leaders of the world, leaders here in the United States, to look at this issue, though, and say, OK, if you do in Syria, what happened in Libya, what happened in Iraq because the same things that are being said about Assad right now were said about Gaddafi. They were said about Saddam Hussein by those who were advocating for the US to go in and intervene to over... She's gonna get read in on this and she told us shut up. This will be the last time you hear her talking about any of this stuff you watch. Now the funny thing about her, I just, I'm still reading her bio. This will kill you. She was a Hari Krishna.

1:16:20 Really? Hare Hare Krishna Dancing around in the robe Dancing around in the robe at airports Collecting money. Oh, yeah, huh really how long was she a Hare Krishna? It doesn't quite say it just mentioned that it was in the She's a vegetarian and a Hindu who follows this Krishna guy And she was a Krishna Hare Krishna movement, especially it doesn't say I think she should have a dot on her forehead She's beautiful and she's smart and she's right yes, and she's done. She's done. She's done for She's gonna be taken aside. Yeah, I got a little and they're gonna get reader the riot act yeah, and Bring one of her kids with a gun to his head

1:17:08 And say, you know, you can, you've had your day, you had your fun, you had your nice little speech, you got on the CNN show, isn't that sweet? You're not, you got, by the way, you stepped, you stepped in front of somebody in line to do that. Oh yeah. And you can stop now. You didn't, that'll be the end of it. You just, you just happen to catch it. Yep. Well, I like her. You'll never hear from her again. Sad. I challenge you. It's very, very sad. I think this kind of leads into that, uh, Azrael thing you sent me this morning. Ah, this is, um, you know, this really irks me. I had a lot of thoughts about this after seeing these couple of videos you sent me, which is, and this is not normal that John sends me something to look at.

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

Vocativ, Mossad Propaganda, and Abu Azrael "The Iraqi Rambo"

The news site Vocativ is identified as a potential Mossad front founded by Israeli industrialist Mati Kochavi. The site's promotion of Abu Azrael, a Shiite militiaman known as the "Iraqi Rambo," is analyzed as a propaganda effort. A France 24 report on Azrael is scrutinized, revealing that the interview was facilitated by an Iraqi businessman in Washington D.C.

vocativ· mati kochavi· mossad· abu azrael· iraqi rambo· france 24

1:17:53 No, at all. Because he'll dig into it and then he will edge me out. Yeah, you send it to me last minute. I just said last minute. Otherwise, it's like I got my conclusions, I got my thing, I'm working on it. Well, the way it turns out that there's this NGO in South Africa. I was like, oh man, I have no time to dive into this. But I like, I have thoughts about it. Which one? Give us the background. Okay. The first thing I ran into there, first everyone, I want to keep a lookout. I want everyone to keep a lookout for a new site that is kind of like a vice clone called vocative.

1:18:29 Vocative? Vocative is an up-and-comer and they're starting to feed news feeds into different like PBS and other outlets. And if you read their wiki page, the wiki page let me just say is full of crap. Vocative news from the dark web is what they... Yeah, they claim to be big dark web so they... Wait a minute, is this a Rita Katz job? What is going on here? It's a Mossad front. Ah, okay. Let's start there. All right, gotcha. And the guy who runs it is a very famous Israeli industrialist and now he's a very famous American real estate guy. And he's got lots of connections with Mossad. And what's his name?

1:19:08 Oh, you can look at the wiki page and get his name. It's some Israeli name. And he's hired a bunch of mostly millennials, even though they claim they've, oh, we're stealing our talent from the Beast and NBC and CBS. No, they're all ex-interns. That means some of the guys are functional, but they're young. And the thing really appears to be just a propaganda arm of Mossad. And that's where I first ran into this. They did a whole video on this character, Azrael, and people can look him up and check out his videos in particular. Both of them are in the show notes, both videos. Those two, but you can also look him up on YouTube, A-Z-R-A-E-L. And let's hear the run down. This guy has been

1:19:55 promoted by someone for some reason, I'm not sure what, but he's a, he appears to be, he's like a celebrity. They call him the Rambo. The Iraqi Rambo is what they call him. The Iraqi Rambo and, and, and they, It looks, the videos that he's produced to promote himself on social media... Look a lot like Rita Katz produced. Looks a little like Rita Katz stuff. And there's just a bunch of guys standing over a hill shooting their gun and they're not wearing helmets. I love it when he loads up a machine gun with a belt and then just holds it over his head and just fires indiscriminately and blows the whole belt in a second.

1:20:31 Yes, it's and then they're in the gym working out these guys big him and a bunch of other guys are big dudes. They're they're got big almost like the PC bros in South Park. Exactly. Well, the play, the first clip is a background on it. It's the Azrael F-24 rundowns from France 24. In this edition, one man against the Islamic State group, a vigilante hero in the city of Baghdad. We follow the man who set himself up as a single-handed force against the jihadists. Abu Azrael is a rough, tough and determined man. He's nicknamed Rambo. Rambo. He's become a propaganda symbol of the fight against Islamic State, Odesh.

1:21:10 he's almost a caricature carrying his armory around in his car working out in the gym but to many he represents the hope of one day winning the battle against the jihadists our report by june and fouchier begins with the hero worship abu azrael inspires on the streets of the iraqi isn't the name as as real almost already like kind of hinting that maybe there's some israel behind this guy or is that just me I don't think it's you. Whenever he steps out of his car, it only takes seconds before people crowd around Abu Azrael. These Baghdadis all want their picture with the man who many see as a national hero. I'm ready to do anything for him, anything. I swear. You're everything to me. People worship Abu Azrael, Anon the Gher which literally translates to the father of the angel of death in Arabic. The Shiite militiaman is the most renowned fighter in Iraq.

1:22:09 His bravery has turned him into a living legend in a country still in shock after the Islamic State ousted the Iraqi army last summer. I stand by my words. That's why people prefer having me instead of a dishonest politician who announces measures on TV but does nothing. Abu Azrael has spent all night in Fallujah district fighting the Islamic State organization. In the trunk lies his equipment, always at hand. That's an M4 with a grenade launcher. These are explosives. A grenade, a smoke bomb. This is another smoke bomb.

1:22:54 Yeah, yeah, he's loaded to the gills with smoke bombs. And you know, in the video then he's like, oh, he's, they keep talking about how he, I don't know if you have this on the clip about how he's, you know, is shooting video for the fans back at home on his cell phone. Do they have cell phone coverage in these areas? Cause it seems like he does. Cause he, oh, but just, just posted it on Facebook. And then they go to some hill, and it's like, oh, they're right behind this hill, and then they're shooting over the hill with their hands up in the air. Yeah, you never see them in shot. No, I've been there. You never see the enemy. Time to go. We all should leave now, because there's nothing, I think it's, there's nothing there. He's shooting at nothing. I think it's all bullcrap. Yeah. Well, and the guy has a catchphrase.

1:23:32 Oh, I didn't know that. I'll turn you into dust or something like that. Oh, no, grind you into dust. Yeah. Grind you into dust. So the French 24 guys, they got into his house and it is, I only have two more clips, and here he is in the house and he's pontificating and it's discussing, throwing out a couple little tidbits there that are worth listening to. I'm sorry, you had more? No. Oh, okay. In this simple home, the decoration consists of religious books and this portrait of Ayatollah Khomeini. These militias obey Iranian religious leaders more than their own government. Abu Azrael says he's ready to pursue his war beyond the borders of Iraq. If the Imam tells us to march on Saudi Arabia, on Mecca,

1:24:17 We'll go. If we have to go to Yemen to help our Houthi brothers, I'll go. All we ask for is to fall as martyrs. I'll have a decent end and God willing, I'll die a martyr. But we'll win. He works for the Iranians. Yeah. Yeah, he works for the Iranians and the whole thing is some propaganda stunt. I'm not sure who's behind it, how they're doing it, who's producing this, but it does have the stench of... Yeah, big time. Now, meanwhile, to do this report, they grilled the reporter, the French 24 reporter. And I thought if you can understand him, which you have to really key in on this French accent, and you can kind of hear what he has to say.

1:25:01 He does give away something kind of interesting about how he got to the interview in the first place and how it got clear and how he got into the guy's house, which apparently was a challenge. Was it easy to convince Abu Azrael to take part in this film shoot? It was not easy. It was the first time Abu Hassan accepted an interview with a European journalist. It was the first time he accepted to be filmed off the battlefield at his gym and especially at home with his family. To convince him, I had to get through a powerful Iraqi businessman, member of the Iraqi diaspora, Irina Ananin. I'm going to need some translation. I can't.

1:25:44 Catch all of it. What is he saying? Uh, it's coming up But they have close ties with the Iraqi politician, the brigade commanders of the Shiite militias. And so they convinced the Abu Azrail commanders to be filmed by a Western journalist. The businessmen, those Iraqi businessmen wanted to show very- Okay, stop, stop. When you resume the clip, you cut out the part that- I'll summarize. Some guy who is in the diaspora, the people that left the country of Iraq and moved to Washington, D.C. as one does.

1:26:31 He says it was this business guy in Washington, D.C., who he contacted. It was, I guess, like, he was the front man or he's the roadie or something for this character. And he talked him into letting them... to approve it, to, I guess, skid the track so he could get in. Yeah, it was well-arranged. It's clearly... Something... I think the State Department... is involved. In other words, this whole thing was a scam. And they had this on France 24, it was like a 17 to 20 minute special about this guy. And it ran in March or April or May. I mean, we missed this when it first happened with this character because he has not been promoted in this country at all. Well, keep an eye out for him. The Iraqi Rambo, it's good. They've got some good stuff going there.

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

Oil Tanker Strikes and US Military Ammunition Claims

Former CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell discusses why the US previously avoided bombing ISIS oil tankers, citing environmental concerns and infrastructure preservation. A Department of Defense briefing is then played, where a spokesperson claims that US aircraft failed to destroy an entire oil convoy because they "ran out of ammunition," an excuse the hosts find highly suspicious.

mike morell· charlie rose· oil tankers· isis· department of defense· turkey

1:27:21 Yeah, we're rocky. Right? I'll grind you to dust. Grind you to dust. So a couple of things back home. Mike Morrell was on Charlie Rose. Mike Morrell, of course, former second in command at CIA and later ran CIA for a little while. He still runs, he still runs, what do you call it when you run the operation? Pundit. He still runs. Operation Pundit is him. And You know, imagine Mike Morrell, who has kind of this Weasley mousy face. When he's saying this on the Charlie Rose show, he's smiling. He can't contain his glee. Attack the funding that they have, attack the ability to sell the oil. We've seen attacks on that oil transfer taking place now after Paris that didn't take place before Paris.

1:28:13 Which is your original question. Right. So this is one of the collateral damage questions, right? Right. One of the collateral damage questions, right? Right, Charlie? Right? Right. So prior to Paris, there seemed to be a judgment, right? I don't sit in this room anymore, but there seems to have been a judgment that, look, we don't want to destroy these oil tankers. Now, this is about the What do you call that? Shoot down of all these where they... Well, they're trucking all the oil from the ISIS now controlled oil fields in Iraq into Turkey run by, what's his name? Balil, I think is Erdogan's son. He is... Yes, and by the way, I think we missed the timeline, which is the Russians show these tankers and humiliate the Americans for not shooting them.

1:29:06 We then shoot them. Illegal gets screwed in the deal, and so they shoot down the Russian plane. Yeah. Well, before we get to that, why don't you stick with the tanker's role, because I have two clips, two varying opinions. We did not blow up this entire, what do you call it? What do you call one of the convoy? We didn't blow up the entire convoy of trucks. No, just enough to get some photos. Do you know why we didn't blow up? There's two opinions. Mike Morrell has an opinion and then we will hear from the Department of Defense. I have a theory. What is your theory? No, what is Mike Morrell's theory? I don't know what his theory is, but my theory is that they ran out of bullets.

1:29:48 I'm going to give you Mike Morrell's theory first. There seemed to have been a judgment that, look, we don't want to destroy these oil tankers because that's infrastructure that's going to be necessary to support the people when ISIS isn't there anymore. And it's going to create environmental damage. And we didn't go after oil wells, actually hitting oil wells that ISIS controls because we didn't want to do environmental damage and we didn't want to destroy that infrastructure, right? Right. So we hit oil on trucks. So now we're hitting oil on trucks, right? And maybe you get to the point where you say we have to also hit oil wells. Hit them all! Those are the kind of tough decisions you have to make.

1:30:29 Brought to you by Clan Kagan. Rubble on the double! Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to rubble on the double! So I love that Mike Morrell plays right into your thesis that the plan may ultimately be to just rubble eyes the whole place make the oil fields completely unusable, but of course That's obvious. We were not going to bomb these this in this entire convoy because it's sending oil up to Turkey our be there's a lot of people who were involved with Erdogan and this kid and all this oil and it's a big whatever you do don't talk about the oil now the Department of Defense is

1:31:06 says the following about why we did not go out and blow up the whole convoy. Again, on the fuel tanker strikes, it looks like from the video that they were targeting specific trucks instead of targeting them on that. There were many in a line, for example, and only one was targeted. Can you sort of talk about what the plan is with that? Is that a design to kind of send a message or is it meant to block other trucks from being able to move? Why only one when it seems like you could target all of them? all of them if you wanted to. Now the beginning of his answer is already fabulous. Well they did target all of them. That's just a factor of how the video comes out, the way we cut it. Because otherwise it would be hours long. So we were just looking for the good shots. Hours? We're just looking for the good shots he said. It would be hours long? Oh yeah, hours long. Just looking for the good shots. We just wanted to put together a snappy snazzy video for you. It's called propaganda dude.

1:32:01 uh... today like but yes it would be good for you and then they'll have to get his about precision right it is a good sign of the senate fly along in his restraint and now it's not like a movie which is fly along straight to blow what we can do this now this is being bullshit we can't go fly off and blow them all up now you know the trucks blow up now it's in the end of the only striking struck or or groups of two or three trucks It is a machine gun, so there is a certain area aspect to it. The gunfire isn't laser guided. Wait for it. Ballistics will cause the bullets, the rounds to move a little bit in the air. So it's individuals strike a truck or two or three trucks, move to the next batch, strike them, move, strike, move, strike. And so the goal was to destroy every truck there. They ran out of ammunition before they were able to do that. There you go. You nailed it.

1:32:58 We ran out of ammo! Hey! Hey, let's get this convoy! Shit man, we ran out of bullets! They're shooting the convoy with a gun? Come on! That's just- that's- that is the- that is the worst excuse I've ever heard. You said it as a joke, I'm sure. Right. Oh, didn't you say it as a joke? They ran Quite honestly, they ran out of ammo. I'm sorry Go back and reload the convoys still there. Ah, I'm sorry Obama has some great things to say about the terrorists out there the message I have is that

CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Obama on Media Responsibility and the 65-Country Coalition

President Obama's remarks regarding the media's role in reporting on terrorism are analyzed, with the hosts interpreting his comments as a demand for "perspective" that doesn't empower ISIS. Obama is also seen distancing himself from intelligence failures by claiming to be a mere "consumer" of information. The hosts question the validity of the "65-country coalition" frequently cited by the administration.

barack obama· media· isis· coalition· intelligence· dia

1:33:43 Those of us who are charged with protecting the American people are going to do everything we can to destroy this particular network. Once this network is destroyed, and it will be, there may be others that pop up in different parts of the world. So we're going to have to continue to take seriously how we, the infrastructure that we've built to prevent this. But it doesn't have to change the fundamental trajectory of the American people and and the media needs to help in this I mean I oh oh hold on a second enough pay attention let's get our pads out you have your pad I'm ready to take a notes all right everybody the media needs to help help in this all right I just want to say during the course of this week a very difficult week it is understandable that this has been a primary focus

1:34:32 But one of the things that has to happen is how we report on this. Oh, John Payton, we're not reporting right. We're not doing it right. It has to maintain perspective. OK. And not empower in any way these terrorist organizations or elevate them in ways that make it easier for them to recruit or make them stronger. OK, put him back to JV. No, no. You stepped on the line. No. No, it's not a JV.

1:35:21 Step on anything. That's how we roll. That's how we roll. And that's the story. Your skills is bullcrap. The president is also trying to save his own skin and he's getting a lot of help because of the... And by the way, stop. What if he said if this is not going to encourage people then one of the reasons people are joining is because they are a bunch of killers and these you know 16 year old boys in the middle of nowhere they have miserable lives want to go be killers Yeah, be a killer and they have good social media. Yeah, so they keep up with their Facebook account And they can be killers yes They're just making this worse and the press is bullcrap the whole thing is a scam it is and

1:36:13 It's all about, in this case, just getting Assad to go. We'll talk about that in a moment. Well, we should also mention, was it Project Hornet's Nest? Yeah, this rings a bell. Why does it ring a bell? Because it's another thing I sent you last night really late. Yeah, I didn't get to you. Thanks. Too late. Sunday, Thursday. The president trying to save his own skin because of course, you know, but he said it was a JV team They're contained. He said that pretty much the day before the the Paris attacks He's been wrong everywhere time to blame the intelligence one of the things I insisted on the day I walked into the Oval Office I insisted was that

1:36:55 I don't want intelligence shaded by politics. I don't want it shaded by shaded The desire to this shaded thing have you heard this term that people are kid the kids today are using hey, man Don't throw shade on me. No. Oh, yeah, you got a look out for it. She threw shade on me, man It's like when you look at someone like their douchebag and make them feel small the shades is shaded to tell a feeling and good story We can't make good policy unless we've got good, accurate, hard-headed, clear-eyed intelligence. Uh-huh, good, accurate, hard-headed intelligence. That's right. Guess you didn't have it, sir. I believe that the Department of Defense and all those who head up our intelligence agencies understand that. They understand it, mm-hmm. And... He's aiming this at the DIA. Oh, yeah.

1:37:48 made it repeatedly clear to all my top national security advisors that I never want them to hold back. He's really, this is really sickening. He is really blaming everybody else. One last thing I'll say though is... As a consumer of this intelligence... Can I become a consumer? Is there a website I can sign? I'd love to get this intelligence. It's not as if... And by the way, it's very, very important that he says, as a consumer of this intelligence. But I don't know, I'm just consuming the intelligence.

1:38:23 I think everyone knows they're supposed to do it right, but clearly something went wrong. Consumer of this intelligence? It's not on his second. What is he specifically bitching about? He's saying, well, what he's trying to say is the intelligence on ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, IS was wrong, but he's just the consumer. But he doesn't have good information, then he can't call the shots. That's why he made mistakes in saying they're a JV team. And you know, they're contained.

1:39:11 uh, the IG may discover, but, um, yeah, he does doing an investigation. Is that what he implied? Oh yeah. The IG. Yep. Like at my level, at least we've had a pretty, at my level, it's the top guy. It sounds like there's a level above him that we are unaware of what's, uh, the IG may discover, but, um, it feels to me like at my level, at least we've had a pretty clear eyed, sober assessment of where we've made real progress. and where we have not. Okay. A lot of mixed messages in that little thing. And then there's one thing I would like the press, I can't ask. That was all about, that was a message to somebody. Oh, the message is there's an investigation going on, you're screwed, it's not my fault. Or maybe it was a message to the inspector general saying, at my level, hey, if you want to have a career anywhere, IG, you want to be careful what you're doing.

1:40:09 Here's the one thing that I really want, and I've heard it so many times now, and I went looking for it, could not find the answer. A coalition of 65 countries who've been active in pushing back against ISIL for quite some time. I would like to know what the 65 countries are. Why didn't you not even bother? Why don't you just play the clip you've got right there, the bullshit clip. Oh, yeah, well of course.

1:40:46 Well, let's just pull is it 22? Something like that screw it. We'll give them 25. So that's 25, but France is a part of that. So it's 25 25 25 Arab countries how many Arab countries? 1 2 3 4 5 6 but about 12 12. Okay. So now it's 37 countries as far-flung as Australia 38 countries in Southeast Asia. What's in Southeast Asia? Cambodia, South Vietnam, Vietnam, not South Vietnam, Vietnam. Let's just call it Indonesia, Malaysia. Fine, fine. We're up to 50 then. 50, I'll give you 50.

1:41:24 Russia right now is a coalition of two Iran and Russia. What I don't know how it wasn't freezing France in that coalition Apparently he doesn't want to no no no no no no I don't want to hear anything about France I Really really really want to know what all the 65 countries are I know that Germany is sending 1,500 soldiers now this is new Yeah, I didn't know they still had them Germany and I think the Netherlands is sending a helicopter or half a helicopter once they get the steam up to speed. It's it's it really is just not true. No. And then I someone said one of our producers sent me a note.

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

Gog and Magog Biblical Prophecy in Geopolitics

A historical anecdote is shared regarding George W. Bush invoking the biblical prophecy of "Gog and Magog" during a 2003 phone call with French President Jacques Chirac to justify the Iraq War. The segment also includes an Islamic perspective from an imam who identifies European Zionism as the modern manifestation of Gog and Magog.

gog and magog· george w. bush· jacques chirac· ezekiel· book of revelation

1:42:11 And I always like to follow up on every kind of angle I can when it comes to what's really going on in the world. And I do not, I'm not afraid of religious texts. I'm not afraid of looking into them. And one of our producers sent me a story which is in the Old Testament. about Gog and Magog. Have you ever heard of these two jabronis? Of course. I'd never heard of Gog and Magog. Oh, you have to have heard of Gog and Magog. No. Yes, they're famous Jewish characters. Well, not only Jewish, but they also appear in the Quran. They also appear in other religions. And what it seems to me, if... The second half of show material. Not really, because I got some first half of show clips.

1:43:03 It seems that whenever Gog and Magog are called into some kind of conflict, it is end of times. So it's Book of Revelation stuff. And I, and I just went searching around to see, you know, who has used this Gog and Magog analogy. And I ran across, I think it was a Democracy Now! interview with Kurt Eichenwald, I think his name is, a New York Times reporter. And he reported on the first, well, not really, on the prior to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, George W. Bush called up Jacques Chirac.

1:43:44 And he said, look, you guys—remember, this is the Freedom Fries call. You guys got to get on board, because, well, it's time. And we'll listen to what Eichenwalde said. You write that Bush said to Chirac, quote, "'Jacques, you and I share a common faith. You're Roman Catholic, I'm Methodist, but we are both Christians committed to the teachings of the Bible. We share one common Lord.'" Bush goes on to say, quote, "'Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. Biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase His people's enemies before a new age begins."

1:44:24 Can you elaborate on that? It was a very interesting day when I heard that question. Can you elaborate on that? This was a phone call—at that point, Chirac had been expressing a great deal of doubt about the intelligence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. His doubts, obviously, were well placed. So there's this phone call, and Bush is giving many reasons why France should become part of it, why Chirac should be joining in. And he's not having a lot of success. And suddenly you shift into this religious conversation.

1:45:06 And Chirac's response to this was, you know, he gets off the phone, and other people have been, you know—have been in on the call. And he looks at his staff and says, does anyone know what he was talking about? Clearly the leader of France at the time was as dumb as I was. His administration, someone there reaches out to an expert on the Bible in Switzerland. And this person, because it's like, what is Gog and Magog? And this person writes up a report. I just say this, and it's surreal. He writes a report for the French president explaining these biblical terms that were cited by the president of the United States in this national security conversation. And Gog and Magog are from two books of the Bible, one the Book of Ezekiel and one the Book of Revelation, and it is central elements in the apocalyptic

1:46:04 You know, the Armageddon concept. And so, Chirac's response when he reads this is, I'm dealing with a fanatic, and I'm not going to make, you know, national security decisions for France based on someone—you know, the president's interpretation of the Bible. I love that story. Wisely. Well, of course it resulted in freedom fries. And then I have I found another clip from an imam in Britain who has his own interpretation based on the Quran of Gog and Magog. It's just I think these things are good to listen to. Who are Gog and Magog? Are they funny looking people or are they normal human beings? I don't know. To answer that question we have to locate a people

1:46:55 who prior to Wael ul-Arab, prior to the time of the Prophet Muhammad A.S. had no special links with the Holy Land. But after the Prophet Muhammad A.S. are now obsessed with liberating the Holy Land. Only one people qualify. It's Europe. Europe after the Prophet Muhammad A.S. embarks upon the Crusades. It's the white people doing it. The European. It's not an essentially Christian phenomenon. Why? Because no other Christians are involved in the Crusades. Only Europe. So, the Crusades are an essentially European phenomenon masquerading as Christianity. Secondly, the obsession with the Holy Land continues with the Zionist movement. But the Zionist movement is European. But it is masquerading as Jewish. How do we know that?

1:47:50 No other Jews are involved in the effort to liberate the Holy Land, only the European. This strange obsession on the part of Europe for liberating the Holy Land which they eventually did in 1919 indicates that Gog and Magog are located in European civilization. We can refine it even more than that. We can be specific within European civilization. Because the Hadith is that when Gog and Magog are released, the first of them will pass by the Sea of Galilee and start to drink the water. And by the time the last of them pass, they'll say there used to be water here. Who are they? Who drinking the water from the Sea of Galilee? Not the Egyptians, not the Jordanians, not the Syrians. Wait! Israel. Jews! Who in Israel? Not Banu Israel, the European. It is the European Jew who controls the State of Israel. So we can identify Gog and Magog not only in Europe,

1:48:46 but also in that part of Europe which is Jewish. But I'm telling you. Well I ain't got a right- that's a roundabout way to just condemn the Jews. It's exactly what's going on. But be on the lookout for this Gog and Magog because just looking back in history the Gog and Magog meme has been evoked many many times and it does pretty much You or usually ends in rubble isation. Well, it's We're getting a rubble isation taking place as we speak. Yeah, but I'm not going to discount the religious So I would guess under the Higgins that Robert is Gog Yeah, and maybe Newland is my Gog Victoria Newland my God

1:49:36 She would be my god. She's the one who keeps showing up. Yeah, she shows up. Oh Rubble ization follows, you know, what we haven't done is we haven't looked Kind of looks like my god. Hold on a second. Do we have a My machine is freaking out today. It's not happy I wanted the noodleman jingle. She's so slick she's taking that away from me. Yes, that's what Magog can do. You have to be careful. She's going to Turkey. Well, it's about time. Yeah, well, exactly. Turkey's long overdue for rebelization. Yeah, they may get it.

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Russian Sanctions on Turkey and China Dissent Crackdown

Russia's economic sanctions against Turkey following the downing of a Russian warplane are detailed, including bans on Turkish goods, charter flights, and tourism. The segment also briefly covers the sentencing of Chinese human rights activist Guo Feishong to six years in prison for "disturbing social order."

russia· turkey· sanctions· vladimir putin· guo feishong· china

1:50:23 Okay, Russians have already closed the border. They won't let the- they used to be passport free to go to Turkey. That's no good. They're gonna pull the oil. Yeah, I have a clip on on the sanctions that Russia's imposed on Turkey. Moscow has announced a package of economic sanctions against Turkey over the downing of a Russian warplane on the Syrian border. Hey, can we agree? Can we stop saying downing, downs, the downed? Can we just say shot down, blowed up? I'm sick and tired of downed. It has to do with cattle. And it gives me trigger warnings for down syndrome. So stop. It's very disturbing. Downed. It was downed. Why does this term use all this stuff? I'm kind of amused that it irks you so much. And then on the second level, I have not noticed this, but now that you mention it, why do they keep saying it? Why do they say shot down or shot or the shooting or the...

1:51:15 Or the destruction of the plane. It's always downed. It was downed. When's the last time you downed something? I downed a beer last night. Okay, you can down a beer. But that's a Beaujolais. A Beaujolais should be drunk in that fashion. You're not drinking an airplane, you're drinking a Beaujolais. Downed. I don't like downed. I think it's chicken shit. Moscow has announced a package of economic sanctions against Turkey over the downing of a Russian warplane on the Syrian border last Tuesday. President Vladimir Putin has signed an order which includes a ban on imports on some Turkish goods as well as restrictions on Turkish firms operating in Russia. It also calls for an end to charter flights from Russia to Turkey and for Russian travel companies to stop selling holiday packages.

1:52:01 We're looking at restrictions on imports. We don't know what exactly will be in, what will be restricted yet. We'll find out next week. But Turkish firms will be restricted from doing business here. Turkish workers will be restricted on coming here. In terms of tourism as well, we know that charter flights will certainly stop and that travel agencies are now being told to stop selling holidays to Turkey. Now that's a big deal for Turkey because something like four million Russians went to Turkey last year on holiday. Obviously those people, the Russians as well, will be affected by this measure. But it does seem to stop short of affecting energy politics between the two countries. It seems that the gas tap won't be turned off, the oil will continue to flow and scheduled flights between the two countries will continue. That was something which had been discussed, whether or not all air transport between the two countries would in fact be stopped. Okay, so the main thing is the oil will continue to flow. That is the main thing. I don't think

1:52:52 anything else matters. He is. Isn't Charlie Rose going to interview him yet again? No, but now we got some chicky from Phoenix TV in Hong Kong. I mean, anybody can go interview the guy now. And I think he did a very smart move. Because for the most important thing to the Chinese people now, China is one of the greatest countries in this world. And to be great country doesn't mean to have great military and great economy as one. You need to have great values.

1:53:41 And that's what the Chinese have today. So we look to all of the Chinese people and the Chinese government will do for our world in the future, near future. Seems to me like that was an open invitation for the Chinas to come and join in the festivities. Come on, Bob, we think you people are smart. Yeah, they got great value. Sure. Play this clip. China crackdown on dissent. And in China, a prominent human rights activist was sentenced to six years in prison as a nationwide crackdown on dissent by the Chinese government continues. 48-year-old Guo Feishong was arrested for quote, gathering crowds to disturb social order after a week-long peaceful demonstration outside a newspaper office two weeks ago. It's all coming here. All good. Just getting ready for it.

CHAPTER 19 / 29 Discussion

Dianne Feinstein on Encryption and the "Black Web"

Senator Dianne Feinstein's comments on the dangers of encryption are mocked, specifically her use of the term "black web" and her claim that terrorists use PlayStation consoles to communicate. The hosts criticize her lack of technical understanding regarding how information is shared on the internet.

dianne feinstein· encryption· playstation· black web· bomb recipes

1:54:33 I think we should wind up this segment with Diane Feinstein. Gag! I can say this, Director Comey and I think John Brennan would agree that the Achilles heel in the internet is encryption. Because there are now, it's a black web. It's a black web now, John. A black web? I've heard of the dark web, but a black web. She went to the black web. Trigger warning! Racist! The Achilles heel in the internet is encryption.

1:55:13 because there are now... it's a black web and there's no way of piercing it. Can't pierce the black web! If only I could reach my utility belt, I could pierce the black web. And this even in commercial products. PlayStation, John, which our kids use. If the two ends communicate, that's encrypted. So terrorists could use PlayStation to be able to communicate. I mean it's fantastic. You use PlayStation to train while shooting and then you can use it to communicate. And there's nothing that can be done about it. You know, I have visited with all of the general counsels of the tech companies

1:55:56 just to try to ask them to take bomb building recipes off the internet, recipes that have been tested and we know can explode a plane. Explode a plane. Where did she get her education? Explode a plane. This is five year old talk. It exploded the plane. Explode a plane. Directions where to sit on the plane to blow it up. We know there are bombs... She should have said to down it. That would have been much better. Where to sit to down the plane. Directions where to sit on the plane to blow it up. We know there are bombs that can go through magnetometers and to put that information out on the internet is terrible. And her head is gone. Terrible, I tell you. Just terrible.

1:56:49 What an idiot. I think she's senile. She doesn't look right if you see her. Her eyes are sunken, she's got a vacant look in her face. I think she's uh... The Botox has seeped. Yeah, I think she's been Botoxed. Hey, how come... That's pathetic. Good clip. I just hit a jingle. That's a borderline clip of the day, by the way. I hit a jingle and it didn't go. What's going on? Something's wrong here. Hold on. Huh. Now you have two things for me to do. Hold on. The borderline clip of the day and I want to get into our segment. Well, apparently nothing works anymore on your machine there. In fact, you got too much stuff going on. Hold on a second. It actually doesn't seem to be working. I think it's out of control. It's decided it's striking. I'm going to show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fabulous.

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony and Donor Credits

The formal knighting ceremony and donor credit sequence for episode 777 is conducted. Numerous producers are recognized for their "Value for Value" contributions, including those reaching the "Mile High Club" ($5,280) and those donating $77.77 or $77.70 in honor of the episode number.

knighting· robert smiley· alan bean· mile high club· value for value

1:57:46 I miss my borderline clip of the day. Yeah, you just too bad too bad Oh, well, you might get another one later. You seem to have a lot of good clips Well, I had a little bit of time. All right Well, let's thank a few people for helping us out on show 777 There's gonna be a long list because we have a lot of people that gave 77 dot 70 nice But let's start with I don't know why I have no idea why this says sir Alan Bean when it should be sir Robert Smiley and make sure he's on the birthday list, which I think he is. $177.70 from Holland, Pennsylvania. I have Sir Alan Bean is wrong? Yes. Sir Alan Bean. Yeah, I got him. Okay, got him.

1:58:26 Yes, Sir Alan Bean did contribute to this show, his normal $50 that he sends in from Oakland. But that's not, I don't know how this got here like this, because it's Sir Robert Smiley, who is an international spy, you know, is a novel. No, he's not. But he's named after a famous character in a Le Carre book. Kirk Ann in Genesco, New York, $130.57. He's got a couple of things going on here. Joaquim Fornalaz in Zurich, Switzerland. I don't know how to pronounce his name. 1-2-3-4-5. Donald Borosky in Spokane Valley, Washington. 1-2-3-4-5. Oops, oops. We have to stop because this is a... This is a member of the United Federation of Planets. We have the letterhead. He's got the letterhead. That means I must read the note.

1:59:25 Hey, I don't know why nobody else takes advantage of this or I guess they can't join anymore. Here's a bit of support for the show even though I can't listen. My DSL service has been out for five days so far. Oh. Oh. That sucks. They should have mentioned who it was so we can shame them. I'm surviving on old shows that I downloaded previously. Cheers, Sir Donald of the fire bottles. W a six o m I I guess Spokane Valley fellow ham yes clay egg Gilliland Gilliland in Chandler, Arizona 111 11 Wayne Lacombe

2:00:12 Capital L small our comb Sunny Bank Queensland Australia and this he's got a knighthood coming. So I think we have on the list outstanding Yes, Stephen Hawkins in Wakefield West Yorkshire UK $100 flat Dame Beth Borazan the Baronetess of Baja, Arizona Tucson actually in 89 48 Thank you for your courage, she says. Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa, 88, 88. Joe Campagna... Oh, I'm just doing my 88, sorry. I'm hearing it, yeah, there it goes. In Ontario, California, 77, 77. Ken Anderson in St. Louis Park, Minnesota, 77.

2:01:01 7777, Sam Menner, 7777 in Box Hill South, Brian Hastie in Hudson, Wisconsin, 7777, Trevor Baxter in Aurora, Indiana. And he had something to say and he had a note to... I think... Wait a minute. Trevor backstabbing thanks for all you do the service is worth so much I give you what I can sometimes I can't I don't know what I would listen to without you guys everyone is lying to me except you You know that's for sure. Thank you for your courage. It was a note here from him, and they came in It's I think it's separate than that all right onward whoops Through the paper down on the mouse and the mouse click something and I'm way off here there. I'm Dame Bora's on Monday

2:01:49 Dick Monday, I am 77 77 with a son known he by the way sent a note and saying he wants to be anonymous And so I think Dick Monday is a bullcrap name, okay? But he wanted he went by that name, and I said it was not to say the city Baroness Monica Lansing is in with 77 70 these are all 77 70s from here on out. She's in Drayton Valley, Alberta Catherine Lee in shah alam Malaysia and And she sent a note in saying she can't give us more Malaysian news. But to sum it up, at the end of the day, we have Prime Minister who equals Clinton in the murder club kill list. Good to know. Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Now, he has... Robert Goschko has a note. He says, I see that I have accrued enough value for value to be promoted to Earl. So this donation, I would henceforth like to be known as Sir Robert Goschko, Earl of Alberta. I think Eric missed that one.

2:02:45 He is the Alberta Earl at this point. Sir Robert Gashko, Sean Mountain in Nuevo, California, 7770, Joel Blazek in Reno, Nevada, Christopher Dechter in Richland, Washington, James Zuckel in Los Angeles, California, Daniel Vautour in Scarborough, Ontario, Dame Tanya Wayman in New York City, Nicholas Frost in Canberra, Australia, Kenberra. Kenberra. Kenberra. I said Kenberra. Uh, Ken-d-bear. Dan Reeder in Maudsland, Queensland.

2:03:28 Robert Dreykussen in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Eric Wesseldyke in Burlington, North Dakota. Jay Kincaid in Roswell, Georgia. Aaron O'Farrell in... Jay is a first-time donor, wants a de-douching. You've been de-douched. There you go. Thank you. Aaron O'Farrell in Elk Grove, California. Harvey Lee in Federal Way, Washington. David Villiue in Concord, California. Ryan Wolf in Covington, Virginia. Nicholas Ragucci in Hanover Park, Illinois. Irina Marchenko in London, UK. Brent Dombrowski in Westminster, Maryland. Richard Gardner, Sir Richard Gardner in parts unknown. John Geiser in South Elgin, Illinois. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone says. Richard Gardner in Chicago, sorry.

2:04:29 Richard Gardner in Chicago, Illinois, he's something to say. Lonely exists is not having other NOAA agenda producers in the immediate circle. Meetups. Yeah, meetups for sure. We have to actually get on the stick. This will be 2016 will be the year of the meetup. We will try to encourage local NOAA, because you're in Chicago. There's probably about 50 NOAA agenda people in the Chicago area. You can meet up with all of the team of the Keeper sisters. Yeah, there you go So there's a meet at Chicago is it was ripe for a big meetup? And then once you meet you can hang out or do whatever because everybody I don't know about you But every time I've seen no agenda listeners get together. They all like each other Oh always even if they differ in opinion they all get along Democrats and Republicans beautiful beautiful

2:05:22 Aaron Guzman in Redding, California. Dr. Jada in Loveland, Colorado. Dave Carey in Clermont, Florida. Armando Guerra. Yeah, there he is. Ah, the mailman. The mail carrier. I'm glad. The mail carrier. Yes. The mail attendant. The mail engineer from Austin, Texas. Armando. I think it's great that he still listens. Dennis... It keeps him going. He's walking that route every day. He probably listens to the show while he walks. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. That's a great idea. Dennis Jarnett in Hollister, Maryland. Sir Charles Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois. Vincent James in Madison, Alabama. A dude named Benonymous in San Leandro, California. He did send a note in which says... Let's actually look at it.

2:06:14 These notes are, you know, just as it's oh yeah KJ6RHJ. K5SLN, 7 3's. And the do name Benonymous is the end of our list of 7 7.70s. Now we go continue with got Nate and in Draper, Utah 69 69 Ellen Murray in Missoula, Montana 67 89 James will 67 89 Los Angeles, California Not sure what the 67 89 is not sure either

2:06:54 Ellen did send a note saying that we make... That's just nice, 6789, it's nice. Oh, 6789, duh. Ellen says that she says, uh, Sarah, you guys make life brighter. Aw, thank you, Ellen. James Wilson, excuse me, said that. Sir, inside jobs, Black Knight of Seattle, Washington, 6666. Sir Brian Warden in Down, Illinois, 6433. James Kachin II in Herndon, Virginia. We need more Virginia money. Got a birthday coming up there. 6050. John Bolsovich,

2:07:33 Kulcevich, I think, in Warren, Michigan. 60. Good Polish name, I can't pronounce. Now this next one should be hollowbooks.com. That's a free hollow book. No, that's the whole point. He changed it because they're no longer free. It's hollowbooks.com. He's got a business now. Oh, okay. Well, it's hollowbooks.com. Six, five, six, seven, eight. Another good number. In Summerfield, North Carolina. And he's launching on Cyber Monday. What a crock. Mark Magpio in Cerritos, California. Double nickels on the dime. Josh McDonald, double nickels on the dime. Parts unknown. Andrew Dawson in, oh, one, Tirana South, Victoria, Australia. 652.80. David Swanson, 52.80 in Grants Pass, Oregon. And these are the mile high club, there's only five of them, six.

2:08:25 Allen Fleetwood in Cottage Grove also has a birthday. Oregon, 5280. Howard LaHiro in Worcester, Massachusetts. or Wooster, I guess, 5280. Kathleen Bowman in Quartz Hill, California, 5280. And Vail Pilly, parts unknown, 5280. Good old Eric, Sir Eric Hochul in Berlin, 5280. And then onward to Marcos Murayama Nagasaki in Lins Lima, Peru, 5150. Karma, karma for everybody. Well, we do have a couple of karma requests, including one of them for a daughter that needs work. That would be a jobs karma? That would be at the end. I got to get that ready. Pay attention. Eric Osnes in Lawndale, California, 5150. Sir Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona, 5050.

2:09:19 Gregory Davis in Lawton, Oklahoma, 50. The final ones are $50 and that includes Gregory Davis, Gregory Davis in Lawton, Oklahoma, David Durrell in Malta, New York, Gerald Inabonay in Union, South Carolina, Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas, Peter Totes in the UK, 50. Shad Rich, and I won't say it, parts unknown, 50. Donald Napier in Chicago, Illinois. Brian Evans in Berwick, Victoria, Australia. A lot of Australians today, thank you. Paul Davis in Feltham, Middlesex, UK. A lot of Brits today, thank you. Joe Schwartzbauer in Fluorescent, Missouri.

2:10:06 Matt Comstock in Walcott, Connecticut. And wrapping up, we got Sir Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia, 50. Amy Herbert in South Windsor, Connecticut. And Alan Bean, Sir Alan Bean over here in Oakland, Sir Bogdan Lehendro in Roanoke, Virginia. And that concludes our list of well wishes for the last two shows. That's right. There's two shows. Right. There's a two show list for 776.5 and 7770. I want to thank all of you for helping us keep going here. And also thank you to everyone who came in with the affordable donation as you

2:10:46 stated in the newsletter of $7.77. A lot of those, that was very good. That was amazing. A lot of them had little notes that were very nice. And yeah, it was John Bolzowicz that had the daughter who's looking for work and she needs a job. Okay. And a lot of GoPodcasting. Well, for some reason people like putting that in their donation note. GoPodcasting. That's right. GoPodcasting! All right. Hey, thank you all very much. This is great. This totally carried us over for the two shows and again, thank you to Sir Cyber for the No Agenda Funnies on Thanksgiving, which traditionally is a very, very slow day for listening and for producerships. So I think we... I'm happy. I'm thankful. No, I'm thankful. That's what I am. How about you? Yeah.

2:11:38 Yeah, I'm very thankful and I think this is a very slow week. Thanksgiving week is miserable. People are not watching or listening on Thursday. Hopefully they will listen because the show is so funny. And today's show probably has a minor audience too. Hopefully they'll just download it and play and then... Well, people are all... The one thing I saw consistently when everything was going down this week was, oh man, why did we have to wait until Sunday? People want to hear the voice of reason, whatever we provide. Which of course is completely unfettered. We have nothing to worry about for what we want to say.

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

Jeff Bezos and Blue Origin Rocket Landing

The successful vertical landing of Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin rocket is discussed, noting the rivalry with Elon Musk's SpaceX. Bezos's enthusiasm for space tourism is highlighted through a Good Morning America interview, where he invites the public to eventually join him in suborbital flight.

jeff bezos· blue origin· elon musk· rocket landing· space tourism

2:10:46 stated in the newsletter of $7.77. A lot of those, that was very good. That was amazing. A lot of them had little notes that were very nice. And yeah, it was John Bolzowicz that had the daughter who's looking for work and she needs a job. Okay. And a lot of GoPodcasting. Well, for some reason people like putting that in their donation note. GoPodcasting. That's right. GoPodcasting! All right. Hey, thank you all very much. This is great. This totally carried us over for the two shows and again, thank you to Sir Cyber for the No Agenda Funnies on Thanksgiving, which traditionally is a very, very slow day for listening and for producerships. So I think we... I'm happy. I'm thankful. No, I'm thankful. That's what I am. How about you? Yeah.

2:11:38 Yeah, I'm very thankful and I think this is a very slow week. Thanksgiving week is miserable. People are not watching or listening on Thursday. Hopefully they will listen because the show is so funny. And today's show probably has a minor audience too. Hopefully they'll just download it and play and then... Well, people are all... The one thing I saw consistently when everything was going down this week was, oh man, why did we have to wait until Sunday? People want to hear the voice of reason, whatever we provide. Which of course is completely unfettered. We have nothing to worry about for what we want to say.

2:12:14 Because we don't have commercial interests involved in the show because commercial interest will always make the slow, the show slanted. It will ruin the show. That's why we ask for contributions and we'd rather, we prefer plugging all these people, mentioning them by name than talking about some product you should buy. Exactly. And quite honestly, there's not a lot of products I like anymore. You? Well, not really. I like Vorac.org. I'm sorry. What were you going to say? I don't know. I got things around here I kind of like. I like the slide whistle. All right. Let's hand out the jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought. All right, everybody. Thank you very much for your support. It's highly appreciated.

2:13:10 And the list reads as follows. Sir Alan Dean turning 54, turned 54 yesterday. Kevin McLaughlin celebrates his birthday tomorrow. James Kachin II, Kachin II, his happy birthday to Doug Yu, his birthday is today. Alan Fleetwood celebrating tomorrow and David Bradshaw will be celebrating his birthday on December 1st. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Title for this segment. Hold, hold, stop, stop, stop. Did you say Sir Alan Bean instead of Sir Robert Smiley? That's what I asked. Sir Alan Bean. No, I said Sir Alan Bean. No, at the beginning I said Sir Alan Bean was listed for $177.70 but it was for Sir Robert Smiley and he's the one who should have gotten the birthday call out. I said I have Sir Alan Bean. Well, I didn't hear you correctly. Okay. So, uh... Tell me what it was. Sir Robert Smiley has a birthday. He's 54. Got it.

2:14:09 We say congratulations to Sir Robert Goschko becoming the Earl of Alberta, Canada. And we have a nice list of knights today. We have one, two, three, four, five, five, five knights. So I'd like to invite onto the stage while I get my blade here. John, yours please, you can get that out. Kevin McLaughlin, you want him on? Yeah, you got it? It was some ranch hand, it's stuck in here. Oh, Sir Lloyd of... Okay, perfect sir, Lloyd of Brisbane Joachim Fornada's and Wayne Larkholm. Come on gentlemen. All of you are now Joining the roundtable the Knights and dames of no agenda hereby pronounce the KD

2:14:52 Sir Kevin, Sir Lloyd of Brisbane, Sir Joachim, Sir Wayne Larkholm, and Sir Benjamin, order of dudes named Ben for you we have hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay, we've got Dilaudid and Dramamine, crickets and cream, cheap wine and chili dogs, ah screw it, just get some mutton and mead. Oh my god, tough list. Please all go to no agenda nation comm slash rings I'm pretty sure that's all gonna stay open right just because we've sold out the inventory the rings part stays the rings are not you know I mean they're being made as we speak so they won't I'll be a little while Eric says they'll be around Christmas when they get shipped out Oh, but it'll be a lovely Christmas gift Yeah, you make sure to post it on Twitter or something so we can you know repost it excellent retweet it Excellent excellent. Thank you all very much. It's really really appreciated

2:15:44 Let me see a couple more things that were going on that oh yeah, I thought this was kind of cool. I really enjoyed Jeff Bezos and his His rocket ship that landed looks like a big dick Okay Most rockets do look at this thing most rockets do it look no this looks really bad I mean this is like one of those things that you would have in one of the the movies with Mike what's you know the I can't remember the name of those films, but the where he played this shag me character. Oh, the Austin Powers. Austin Powers. It reminds me of that bit that you did in there.

2:16:22 I really liked that Elon Musk is all pissed off about it. That's the thing I like. No, I didn't know this. Oh, yeah. He's been tweeting saying, well, we've been doing these for many years now. Although every baby, every single one of his attempts, of course, fails. He hasn't been able to land it like like this one did it landed back on Earth. It was damn cool to see. And he was on with Good Morning America and I, you know, Bezos, Bezos, no, Bezos, Bezos, Musk. Now, Musk, now Musk is all teed off, you know, and Bezos, you know, he's got this cool video, which is of course animated and you see people go up into space and they're floating around in what looks like a really nice capsule with big windows, which would be the head part of the dick you talk about.

2:17:06 And it's just fun to listen to Bezos laugh. And your website actually teased some information about a window seat and space travel. Is that something that you could possibly be planning? Yes. So we're right now, you know, we just flew this vehicle successfully. We're going to we're at the beginning of a long and very deliberate test program where we're going to fly the vehicle. many, many times. And then when we're completely confident in it, we're going to start using it to take people up into space. That should take another couple of years. Wow. Now, do you want to go to space one day? I mean, it's one thing to launch the rocket successfully. You know it. Absolutely. I've wanted to do that since I was a five-year-old boy. It's a passion. It's deep in my heart.

2:17:51 You guys are invited if you want to come. I mean, I because at first I was thinking no, but you're right Jeff. It's a great adventure and you're going to test it over and over again. I haven't seen the Grand Canyon. I love how Bezos laughs, it's so great. Unfortunately, it was good. While you were playing that clip, I was thinking the same thing that one of them said, which is most people haven't even seen the Grand Canyon. Yeah, but they're going to take one of these rides. I'm sad that he offered that to Good Morning America and not to Al Roker. Put that fucker in space, please. Get rid of that guy. Look at that juice. The juice that comes out. My hand is dripping wet here because I have nothing but juice.

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

Mars Mouse Hoax and GMO Salmon Approval

The hosts mock a CNN report about a "mouse" spotted in NASA Mars rover photos, suggesting it is an optical illusion or evidence of a terrestrial filming location. The discussion moves to the FDA's approval of genetically engineered salmon, criticizing a KTLA news segment that appeared to be a failed "native advertisement" due to the anchors' negative reactions.

mars· nasa· gmo salmon· fda· ktla· native advertising

2:18:55 No entry. Second half of show. Alright, second half of show! It's a short one today. I caught some breaking news on CNN the other morning and I was dumbfounded once again. Once again, I just can't believe why people don't see through this hoax. Yeah, that's a mouse. Or is that an optical illusion? Well, I think it's a mouse. A Mars optocular. It's a Mars mouse. That looks like a cockroach. That doesn't look like a mouse. You see its ears to the right? I can't believe this. This is breaking news. When will they just say, all right, it's New Mexico, come on. A mouse. We know. It would be different with those little rodents that are really mice. It's really, it's really nuts.

2:19:58 Well I have, you're gonna do that, I get to do sports news. Oh, oh wait, wait, wait, we have a jingle for that I think. Is this about football? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, then I say here we go. Sports! Sports! John Cena Morag with sports! Well, there's been a breakthrough in the kind of sports coverage we can expect in the future from ESPN. And there's exemplified here by this report they had the coach of the LSU Tigers. What are they, the Tigers? I don't know what they are, but they're LSU team. I think they're the Tigers. Maybe not.

2:20:40 What is the LSU team? Somebody in the chat room must know. Whatever the case, they had the coach out there. They're interviewing him. And because he's surrounded by all the players, he breaks into song. Coach, you just got off the shoulders of your team. Tell me what this moment feels like for you. It's great. I love this team. Great young men. They fought like hell. I'm going to have to sing Alma Mater now. I'm sorry. Molder of mankind. Oh, God. God. May greater glory, love unending, be forever thine. Our work and life will be thy worth, we pray to keep it. It reminded me of you, Adam, so I had to play it. Thank you so much. So as a part, we got singing Sparks right here on the show.

2:21:43 I think that may be a good new segment. I kind of like it. Now, I have one other thing that's kind of interesting. Offbeat, since you got the half a second, half a show. If this was done as a native advertiser, this is a native advertisement. I believe it was a native ad. I could be wrong, but whatever it was, it failed as any sort of report. This is the KTLA dingbat clip. The FDA has ruled that genetically engineered salmon are safe to eat. The ruling paves the way for the first altered fish to eventually reach supermarket shelves.

2:22:26 its salmon, which has been shown to grow much faster than farm-raised Atlantic salmon. No word yet on when the first batches of fish would be sold commercially. Not that you would buy it anyway. Yes, nor would I eat that ever. Oops. Nothing modified. Why would you eat something modified? That doesn't even make sense. Yeah. You're here. Thanks, Kai. Cheer, cheer. That's why we're educated about those things. It's important to stay healthy. Well, outside we go. Hello hello hello hello hello is this advertising department yeah, yeah, you probably heard about the deal we had for our salmon our genetically modified salmon I'm a little confused a lot of deals. I'm oh Excuse me is the customer wrong. I'm calling. I am your customer. Oh

2:23:20 I'm sorry, I don't know who you are. I'm from the GMO Salmon Company. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, we did it. We placed that ad in one of the KTLA... Yeah, but I'm not understanding why your morning team decided to tag this. This was not the agreed to tag. This is not how it was supposed to work out. No, we agreed to talk about it a little bit after it played. Can't you keep these people in line? We agreed that we'd talk about it. What they had to say, it's fine. I mean, you got your plug. No, they then said that they would never eat anything genetically modified. This is an outrage! I want make good! Make goods! Make goods! You're not getting it. You're lucky to be in business. Bye. I just, hold on. I just snotted. Hold on. I don't want to be on the end of that phone call.

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

UnitedHealth and the Failure of Obamacare Exchanges

UnitedHealth's warning that it may exit the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) exchanges due to massive financial losses is examined. A former Aetna CEO discusses the lack of affordability and the collapse of health insurance co-ops, while the hosts suggest the situation may lead to a government bailout or "too big to fail" status for major insurers.

unitedhealth· obamacare· health insurance· aetna· medicaid expansion

2:24:17 They messed that one up. Why eat anything modified? It makes no sense. I caught a thing on CNBC, I think the Obamacare exchanges are open and there was a profit warning and a big notice from UnitedHealth Now, UnitedHealth is one of the largest health insurers. They're only what, only three or four, aren't they? Like really big ones. We got Blue Cross Blue Shield, UnitedHealth. Here's a former CEO of Aetna and he's talking about, and this is on CNBC, about UnitedHealth possibly considering leaving the exchange.

2:25:17 We have more people who need health care today and fewer who are making a decision to purchase the insurance before they actually need the health care. Could what happened today be the biggest threat and the biggest hit of all to the health care law? I mean, UnitedHealth is so big and so powerful, it has to be hurting the other guys too. Well, I think we have to keep it all in perspective. The reality is it is better for people to have insurance than to not have insurance. The debate is how do we do it and how do we structure it in a way that we maintain affordability. For the people who participated in Medicaid expansion, there's 7 million of them. They have no out-of-pocket, no expense. It's been a big win, but it's been a Medicaid expansion. For individuals who purchased and families who purchased through the exchanges, we need to find better ways to make certain that it's an affordable product.

2:26:02 I don't think it's the end of the exchanges. I don't think it's the biggest thing we'll see. The health plans will look at their costs and they will price their product to reflect the cost. But it is a blow. I mean, $500 million for the biggest health insurer on a loss just from these exchanges next year. That's not going to be good for the health care law, which needs these companies. Well, I would agree. And I think what we'll see is each plan will look at their costs. They will take whatever write-off is necessary and they will price those plans. The question is, what kind of regulatory pushback will they get? Will they be asked to go forward with premiums? No, not actually supportable. If that happens, then the plans will not participate would be my judgment. So that worked out fine, didn't it? Well, all the co-ops, with the exception of maybe one or two of all folded. Oh, the co-ops were out earlier. Oh, yeah. There's still a couple of hanging. They are actually out of business. Some of them have closed. They had to fold it because it didn't work.

2:26:58 and they couldn't afford it, it just went out. Now let me ask you this, do you think... This whole thing is an outrageous scam. Agreed. Question, because that last bit there about the regulatory oversight, would they be allowed? I'm thinking Now, this of course will be the next president probably when this takes place, I think. I have a feeling that UnitedHealth will be maybe seemed as too big to fail or something and they'll get some kind of pass on jacking up the rates more. Oh, you think this is just an extortion gimmick? Yes. Yeah, probably. Could be. Yeah, something like that. Oh, John, by the way, we need to update Dvorak's law.

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

Dvorak's Law and the Prostitution Economy in Greece

The hosts discuss "Dvorak's Law," which posits that as the economy worsens, the quality of prostitutes increases while prices decrease. They cite reports from Greece where the price of sex has reportedly dropped to the cost of a sandwich, leading to a debate over a proposed "Curry Amendment" regarding the age of workers in a depressed economy.

dvorak's law· greece· prostitution· economy· urban dictionary

2:27:38 Why? Because of the sandwiches? Yes, I would like a curry amendment to Dvorak's law. I will read Dvorak's law. This came up, of course, in the Best Of for the Funny Show on Thanksgiving. It's in the Urban Dictionary. Dvorak's law, I quote verbatim, the worse the economy, not only do the hookers get better looking, but they get cheaper. And then there's a little subscript here. Some postulate that additionally hookers get more business during a worse economy. However, Dvorak himself attributes this to supply and demand which often leads to an increase in business, which is driven by the need to compensate for loss of revenue caused by the same reduction in cost stated in Dvorak's law. All of course continuously being proven true. But I would like a curry amendment to Dvorak's law if you don't mind me weaseling in on your action.

2:28:28 Well, it depends on the amendment. The amendment? I mean, if the amendment is Adam Curry is great, I think that could be left out. You should just have that bumper sticker anyway. No. So based on the news out of Greece where prostitution is legal, the price of sex has fallen from 50 euros to about $2 or the cost of a sammich. But the amendment would be that hookers also get younger. These are teenage prostitutes now, John. So better looking, price goes down and the hookers get younger. See I'm not going to buy into that one completely because I think the hookers get older too. And should we not? I think the age range just expands as more people become hookers.

CHAPTER 25 / 29 Discussion

Migrant Crisis and Self-Harm Protests in Macedonia

A disturbing report from the border of Greece and Macedonia describes migrants who have sewn their mouths shut in protest. These individuals, primarily from Iran and other non-Syrian nations, are being denied entry into Macedonia as the country tightens its borders against non-refugee economic migrants.

macedonia· greece· migrants· syria· iran· hunger strike

2:29:18 In the crappy economy. Okay. Well, that's a reasonable point You'd saying that is that that scale expands on the young side and the old side. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, then I The amendment has has been denied. What do you say that when it struck down? My amendment has been downed downed My amendment is downed people Alright, then let's go look at my favorite obsession, which I'm sure will keep going for the next couple of years. Migrants in Europe! Oh boy, we're on the border between Greece and Macedonia, and we have our BBC man on the spot. All these people are stranded now. I'm going to show you something which is quite disturbing. So you've been warned, look away. Alright, close your ears if you can't handle it. You don't want to see it, but these people say they will not eat, they will not talk, and to prove their point,

2:30:07 Around a dozen have sewn up their mouths. Have you seen this? I'm sorry. I couldn't understand a lot he said so they're protesting They're not being allowed into the mass into Macedonia because they are not Syrian or I guess the Syrians in Iraqis, I don't think anyone else is allowed to apply the lot of Iranians So they're sitting there. They have sewn their mouths shut what? Yeah. Yeah, it's disturbing. I Why? A protest. So they can't eat. That they're not being allowed past the border into Macedonia to continue their voyage into, I guess, Germany. Huh. Yeah. So they're sewing their mouths shut. It's an old tactic, but I think it's always effective. Well, it's always disgusting. And effective. And effective.

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

Kunduz Hospital Strike Investigation and JAG Lawyers

General John Campbell's report on the US airstrike on a Doctors Without Borders (MSF) hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, is reviewed. The military attributes the tragedy to "human error" and equipment failure, while the hosts express skepticism over the "glitch" narrative. A side discussion explores the theory that JAG lawyers are increasingly embedded throughout the US criminal justice system.

kunduz· doctors without borders· john campbell· afghanistan· jag

2:31:02 All right, well that was a nice depressing piece. I got plenty more. Oh, we finally did get a very disturbing report from General John Campbell about the attack on the Doctors Without Borders Hospital in Afghanistan. Oh, we're finally getting to the bottom of it? It was a big, big glitch. Strike began at 2.08 a.m. At 2.20 a.m. A SOF officer at Bagram received a call from MSF advising that their facility was under attack. It took the headquarters and the US Special Operations Commander until 2.37am to realize a fatal mistake. At that time, the AC-130 had already ceased firing. The strike lasted for approximately 29 minutes. This is an example of human and process error. The investigation found that the strike resulted in the death of 30 staff,

2:32:02 patient and assistance in the injury of 37 others. U.S. Forces Afghanistan is currently working hand-in-hand with MSF to identify the injured and the families of those who lost loved ones in order that we may offer appropriate condolences. Send a card to the right address. Based upon the information learned during the investigation, the report determined that the proximate cause of this tragedy was a direct result of avoidable human error compounded by process and equipment failures. An additional report found that fatigue in a high operational tempo contributed to this tragedy. It also identified failures in systems and processes that, while not the cause of the strike on the MSF Trauma Center, contributed to the incident.

2:32:55 These included the loss of electronic communication systems on the aircraft. What kind of outfit are we running? Hey, the radio... That's bull... And by the way, if you remember the early reports, one of the guys on the plane said, hey, we're not supposed to be shooting at that thing. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, shoot. Radio's not working. The nature of the planning and approval process employed during operations in Kunduz City and the lack of a single system to vet proposed targets against a no-strike list. We have reviewed each of these failures and implemented corrections as appropriate. We have learned from this terrible incident.

2:33:33 We'll also take appropriate administrative and disciplinary action through a process... Wait a minute. Yeah, exactly. Why disciplinary action if it was all a glitch? Why disciplinary action if it was a glitch? A glitch. That is fair... He should have just said, it was a glitch and everyone would have been, oh, okay, gotcha. All right, let's go home boys, pack it up. There should be no disciplinary action. And thoroughly... What he says is true, which is bull crap. ...considers the available evidence. The cornerstone of our military justice system is the independence of decision makers following a thorough investigation such as this one. You know, something just hit me. Someone told me that JAG lawyers are infiltrated everywhere throughout the entire U.S. court system. Did you hear about this?

2:34:21 No, it sounds like a conspiracy. It is. And the JAG lawyers are always going to obviously help the armed forces, but they...apparently, they're spread out now throughout the entire criminal justice system in the United States. Well, I don't buy the argument that they will always do something or not do something. Well, okay. Good point. Unless they're still being paid by the Navy. And I'll tell you why. They may be. Because when I was an air pollution inspector, Having come from the oil refining business, I had no problem being harsh on the oil refiners. It was, oh, it's just a revolving door. You worked for an oil company. Now you're inspecting them. That's corruption. No, it's not true. It's not the way you operate, the way normal people operate. A JAG lawyer, if he was in the Navy, is, yeah, pro-military, you have a military background. And then he's now a civilian and he happens to be an ex-JAG lawyer, he's not gonna,

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

Trypophobia and the Loss of Empathy via Smartphones

The concept of "trypophobia"—the fear of small holes—is introduced as a modern millennial phenomenon. This leads into a discussion of MIT professor Sherry Turkle's research on how smartphones are eroding human empathy and deteriorating the quality of face-to-face conversation, even when the devices are silent and face-down on a table.

trypophobia· sherry turkle· smartphones· empathy· mit

2:35:17 He may go just the opposite. I mean, if you talk, for example, about like Navy captains, everybody knows that on these smaller ships, these little boats and oilers and things like that, they're all A-holes. And everybody in the Navy knows it. If you got out of the Navy and you had a chance to get back at one of these clowns, you would do it. So I'm not buying it. Okay. Just something that hit me. Yeah. And I learned something. Did you learn anything hanging out with the millennials over Thanksgiving? I was with my wife. Oh, I thought the Millennials were there. No, no, no. They were down here eating dinner. I mean, that's why we had to distribute all the information about the turkey. Oh, okay. I learned something from one of the Keepers Millennials. I learned a new word. Didn't you give me that word a little earlier? Well, no, I'm going to give you the word now. Then it ties into something your Millennials identified earlier. It is related. Yeah. It is trypophobia.

2:36:13 Never heard of it. About tripe? Trypophobia. And this is a real thing. I saw, I saw it before my eyes. About tripe? Trypophobia. T-R-Y-P. Trypophobia. I don't know what that is. Trypophobia is the fear of objects with small holes. What? Yeah, I know. Fear of objects with small holes. So, and a honeycomb is one, coral reef is another, a tree trunk that a woodpecker's been at, could even be a pancake with holes in it, a strawberry, small holes, golf ball, the inside of a cantaloupe. These kids are fucked. Well, let's take a look at how fucked they are. I have a couple clips.

2:37:10 Please, they're listening, so let's hit it. All right, let's start with Sherry Turkle's new book about conversation and discuss cell phones and how they are affecting the way people have conversations. And I'm not a big fan of Sherry Turkle normally. She's an MIT professor who always writes about technology from a professor's perspective. She's never been in the Valley. She's not a tech... But I have to say this new book is interesting. Let's play. I got three little clips. Let's start with Sherry Turkle phone at lunch one. You see something a very specific problem, a loss of empathy, of our ability to empathize with others. Explain that.

2:37:50 It's very typical that when two people are having lunch, they put a phone on the table between them. And all the research shows that the presence of that phone will do two things to the conversation. It will make the conversation go to trivial matters and it will decrease the amount of empathy that the two people in the conversation feel toward each other. phone is a signal that either of us can put our attention elsewhere. Even if we don't look at it? Even a silent phone disconnects us. Really? Well I'm buying into this and I kind of like what she's up to here. I mean it's a stretch, a little bit of a stretch, but but she's got some documentation. Let's play phone at lunch 2. There's a 40

2:38:36 40% decline in all markers for empathy among college students with most of it taking place in the past 10 years That's not okay So even if I mean our phones do play to our natural nervousness about being vulnerable to each other but that doesn't mean that we can't We can't pull ourselves together and say we need to talk to each other because it's in conversation the most human and humanizing thing that we do. That empathy is born, that intimacy is born, that relationship is born.

2:39:15 Hmm. She's making these points and then she wraps it up with the stats final. But somehow not take it seriously. In the latest Pew study, 89% of Americans said that they interrupted their last social encounter by looking at a phone. And 82% 82% of them said that it deteriorated the conversation. So my favorite line in my book, kind of author's choice, is technology makes us forget what we know about life. We know we're doing something that's not good. You put your hand up in somebody's face and say, excuse me, I just need to interrupt this conversation for a moment, and yet we do it anyway.

2:39:58 Well, I was thinking about this because when I have the millennials over, they're always doing this. You're having dinner, you're talking about something, and then somebody checks their phone, and then next thing you know, they're obsessed with the phone, they're fiddling around, and they write, okay, I'll call you later, or whatever they do. And it's a very common thing, and it does, I think, make things deteriorate. And I think it happens when you go out to lunch with somebody, and she's right, you put the phone... I would say 15 years ago, before this empathy thing started ruining everything, if you went, it was always considered rude. Maybe it was 20 years ago. It was always considered rude to either have the phone on the table. It was just rude. Well, 20 years ago, if you had a phone, you were a dick.

2:40:41 Don't you remember that? It was like, what are you, important or something? Maybe it was a little longer than that. Maybe it was 25. Maybe it was a little longer. Whatever. I do remember when it was rude to have the phone. The restaurants would get upset with you if you had one. Oh, you'd have to go outside to take a call even though you'd interrupt a meal to do it. But this thing is a nightmarish little device and it doesn't really...unless you're a doctor on call, there was no reason to be constantly checking this phone. This began with the BlackBerry and I never thought, I always felt that the BlackBerry The crackberry, they used to call it. When the BlackBerry first came out, everyone had these...anyone who had one was constantly checking it. And if you were on an airplane with somebody who had it like that... Well, that was really the first portable email machine that really worked.

2:41:27 Right, and people were checking it and checking it and checking it. And that was the beginning. And I always said when people tried to copy and try to make inroads with the popularity of the Blackberry, I said, well, the mechanism isn't the same on these other smartphones or dumb phones or whatever they were, the flip phones. And so they could never catch what the Blackberry had, which was this crazy addiction people had to it. Steve Jobs came along with the iPhone and it started taking the place of the BlackBerry. The BlackBerry's a dead product now. Everybody now has a smartphone and everybody is completely addicted in an old BlackBerry-like sense, where they're constantly checking this device.

2:42:07 And it just interrupts everything. And it used to be considered rude, but because everybody's addicted, nobody thinks it's rude anymore. So they have them, you bring the phone out, you put it on the table when you have lunch and you check it every once in a while, use the look stuff up. Anyway, she's got a whole book about it. She thinks it's ruining us all. I would agree. We have no... You would. I figured you'd be very specific in this book. We as a human species who still have tailbones have absolutely no idea how to handle this much information. We're not... We have not evolved yet to be able to equip it, which is why we naturally gravitate towards, you know, the stu... Like pictures, emojis.

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

Millennials Living at Home and Erdogan's Rhetoric

Pew Research data showing that 36% of young women and 43% of young men live at home with parents is analyzed as a symptom of a modern economic depression. The segment concludes with a brief observation of Turkish President Erdogan's aggressive public speaking style, which the hosts compare to historical dictators.

millennials· pew research· great depression· recep tayyip erdogan· turkey

2:42:53 Yeah, exactly. And we all know what that eggplant is for. We all know what that emoji is for. Come on. Now, continuing with the millennials. Okay. PBS Living at Home. Oh my goodness. Not part two, part one. Let me make sure I got part one. It doesn't say part one. No. Parents and plenty of 20 and 30 somethings are well aware that many young adults move back home these days after they finish school. And they're back on the payroll. Analysis of census data out today from the Pew Research Center underlines the extent to which this is happening. It finds that

2:43:33 36 percent of women between the ages of 18 and 34 are living at home with parents or relatives. That is higher than at any time since 1940. An earlier analysis also found that nearly 43 percent of young men lived in a similar arrangement last year. All right, we have that element going. And so if you play part two, they always seem to overlook the one factor that I think is kind of part of the problem, but they brush past it. At 36 percent, more than 36 percent, the biggest percentage we've seen since the Great Depression. What's behind this? I would point to sort of three factors sort of for the long run sweep.

2:44:19 The low point was about 1960, we're about 24%. So it's been on the rise slowly, markedly picked up in the new century. Three factors, number one, young adults are much less likely to be married than was the case 50, 60 years ago. When young couples get married, they don't live with their parents. So that delayed marriage has sort of reduced the incentive to leave the nest. Secondly, particularly among young women, many more of them are college students. While college enrollment by young women has gone up by about five-fold since 1960, college students, if you think about community college students, students going to their local universities, much more likely be living at home.

2:45:03 Maybe that's why the president proclaimed this coming week National Family Week. Well, what's ignored by this is they discussed the...this is just the turn of the century, which was, of course, the dot-com crash and the economy's never recovered. We're in a depression. So no wonder this is going on because they said since the Great Depression there haven't been anything like this. It is the depression and it's the simplest explanation for the phenomenon. And these kids can't...and there's no job that's to be had by anybody. It's a dependent group.

2:45:40 We're all beating him We will be eating them people Taste like poop. I have another oddball clip okay Have you ever listened to Erdogan speak? in Yes, yes. He screams like Hitler. Like Mussolini was more my thought. But yeah. Oh, okay. Well, Hitler, Mussolini, either one of them. But I just have this clip where they're translating it, but in the background you can hear him and he screams his speeches.

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Project Hornet's Nest and Show Outro

The show concludes with a discussion of "Project Hornet's Nest," a theory allegedly based on Snowden documents suggesting ISIS was a joint creation of US and Israeli intelligence. The hosts warn of impending "rubble-ization" in Turkey following Victoria Nuland's visit before signing off for episode 777.

project hornet's nest· edward snowden· isis· israel· victoria nuland

2:46:21 On Monday, there will be a meeting in Paris. I believe Mr. Putin will be there attending. I would like to meet him there and maybe talk about this in a reasonable way. We are very disturbed by the fact that this issue got escalated needlessly. There is a big potential for cooperation between the two countries, and we do not want this issue to hurt our current or potential relations. Putin's foreign affairs advisor said the Kremlin had received a meeting request, but wouldn't say if it was possible. So let's just call it John when right when Will we have someone just say it is a World War three. We're screwed. This is not good I mean you have a date. Well. I think it's already past the date. I think only world war three for a while Yeah, but someone has to call it call

2:47:24 I think a bunch of people have called it, but not of presidential level or prime minister level or anything. Do you think they're not going to call it? I'm not going to call it. No, because what they're going to do is they're going to beat around the bush about it. I think it's going to I think the date would only be determined by one bomb being dropped somewhere by someone and blowing up a whole area. Yeah. Or or my original thesis, which would be to blow up a nuclear reactor. That would be kind of OK. I really think so. I would like to see a bomb. Great, I'm so happy. Yeah, it'll be fun. Let's see a bomb.

2:48:04 We have to talk about the Project Hornet's Nest and the whole ISIL, ISIS versus Israel thing because it's getting more and more apparent. Do you have a summary on what Project Hornet's Nest is? Supposedly, according to one source, a European source, it was part of the information that was held back by The Guardian and The New York Times. That the whole ISIL ISIS thing is this was Snowden document documents documents saying that this was project hornets nest and it was designed by the Israeli and American intelligence, which is a what everybody thinks so here's the run down. I've got it here

2:48:46 This is according to documents that we have not seen, which would have been withheld, Snowden documents, which are usually PowerPoints. ISIS leader al-Baghdadi was once a super high-level prisoner of the US government, despite the fact that the US had offered a $10 million reward for him, the Obama regime ordered his release in 2009, which I think is verifiable. The Obama regime with major support from Senate neocons John McCain and Lindsey Graham have given hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Sunni jihadists in Syria. We've actually seen the meetings. ISIS posted pictures of al-Baghdadi and other fighters meeting with John McCain. Completely ignored these pictures by mainstream media. Israel has directly aided Sunni jihadists in Syria by bombing Syrian military assets. True.

2:49:34 Israeli Prime Minister has reacted to the ISIS spearhead Sunni Shia civil war in Iraq with borderline glee. The US and Britain have provided Sunni jihadists with Toyota trucks, yes, through the State Department, when an army of ISIS fighters rolled over the Syrian Iraqi border. It looked like a commercial, of course, for Toyota. So we would need to get a hand on... Why has WikiLeaks not come out with these yet? Do they have copies of these Snowden documents? I have no idea. I don't think so. But I mean, this falls into place with the memo that came out that we discussed on the show saying that this needs to happen. We need to create this situation. And what really stands out like a sore thumb is that these guys aren't shaking their fists at Israel. No, there's nothing ever happens.

2:50:29 operation, oh Israel's gotta go, it's gotta go, it's gotta go, and then meanwhile... But they never do anything in Israel, yeah. They don't do this. They're not shaking their fists at anybody. Except us. Let us review. For me it appears, well first of all, question for you. If Daesh, which is now the hip term, we've been following this for what, two years? But it's now the hip term to call ISIS, ISIL, IS, call them Daesh, because they hate it so much, right? Have I heard this correctly? That was one argument. There's another argument... But when the president or the vice president or the secretary of state keeps referring to them as dash, isn't that the same as...did anyone in World War II of that presidential nature or stature say, you know, the krauts, the huns, the japs? Did we say any of that? The japs was used quite a bit.

2:51:27 But I think it's inappropriate. The press was a very low-end thing. But it seems inappropriate if you know that this is only going to make them mad, which is what I've understood. Why would the president... Why would you keep doing that? The right wing would argue that the president has gone out of his way not to mention Islam, Islamists. They make a big stink about this. He won't say Islamists or Islamists or Islam... Raghead, towel heads. He won't say no, not just Islam. He won't use the word Islam in any of his complaints. And ISIL incorporates the word Islam. And so they've somebody said, well, what are you going to do about that? And so he said, well, we're going to change it to Daesh. That would be a conspiracy right wing thing, because because for various reasons, Obama will not

2:52:20 condemn the Islamists under any circumstance using the word Islam. I don't know. I have no idea why they've changed it to Daesh, but this whole thing is some sort of a... we're being scammed as a public. which I think we've concluded. And if you look at the car, in fact I'll run one, I've got a cartoon, I'll run it in the next newsletter. Please subscribe. And it's a cartoon from the Middle East showing, it's classic, everybody believes it's in the Middle East, they all think that this ISIL, ISIS group is

2:52:56 financed and controlled by us, the United States. And his cartoon clearly shows an American, you know, an Uncle Sam with a puppet. And the puppet is the ISIL guy scaring all the other Arabs. And it's all bullcrap. I mean, that's what they believe. And there's some evidence that they may be correct. The man on the street in the Middle East if you ask one you'd hear this argument We're the only show that discusses it clearly has become a quagmire because we you know We know that our CIA and DOD groups are there. They're being attacked by Russia Meanwhile Israel sitting around getting a free ride there in the Middle East and they don't have to do much but no the Russians I must be in on this idea because they're doing this just to irk us and

2:53:42 The Russians that get screwed on this Ukraine thing. There was one other thing that happened just before the maybe it was I think it was just before the Russian jet got downed. There was an attack on the grid in Crimea. Did you see this? It was very really underreported. Yeah, all the power they there was a I don't know if it was an air drop bomb or some other form of IED, but it blew out all power on Crimea. I haven't heard this. No, no. But it's kind of what you want to do. That's how you send a message. So I don't know if that came before. It's hard to find the timeline. I don't know if it came before the jet or after. Regardless, messages being sent and I think well received. Well, this is a lot of back and forth that's unnecessary. I mean, this is part of that.

2:54:32 seven countries in five years thing. Yeah, the West Coast. I mean, this is the Kagan's and the Victorians and Newlands and these people, they have to be stopped. They're dangerous. They're putting us all at risk. Newland is going. Yes, you're right. Newland is going to Turkey. So you know what that means? Rubble-ization follows. That's right. It always does. Regime change. Rubble-ization always follows Victoria Newland Kagan. Alrighty, okay, that's a uplifting little ending here to show 777. This shows how many damn shows we've done 777 well we've done more than that we've had a couple of point right a couple of actual 0.5 here and there yeah, well I enjoy doing it John I I can't live life without thinking oh, maybe I can oh, maybe that's for the show how about this? Oh, that'd be great for the show. Oh, this is just dandy. Let me record this I'm amazed ever relationship at all

2:55:31 Yeah, you can work it in. As long as the relationship understands what you're up to. Saving the world for truth! And we will continue to save the world for truth on Thursday's episode of the best podcast in the universe. Please support us at Dvorak.org. John, a pleasure as always. As I sit here in FEMA Region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley I await show 778. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Adios, mofos.

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