Episode 769 · Thursday, 29 October 2015

Electile Dysfuntion

A chaotic Republican debate triggers a media firestorm while new federal surveillance laws and global health reports signal a shift in the American political landscape.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 769

About this episode

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump dominated the CNBC Republican primary debate, where moderators John Harwood and Becky Quick faced intense audience booing for perceived media bias. Cruz delivered a viral rebuke of the panel's questioning style, while Trump targeted John Kasich for his tenure at Lehman Brothers and credited Ohio’s economic growth to fracking rather than policy. The hosts analyze the fallout of the debate, including Ben Carson’s surge in Iowa evangelical polling and Hillary Clinton’s strategic ad buys during the broadcast.

FBI Director James Comey and former Commissioner Ray Kelly have warned of a Ferguson effect, suggesting that increased scrutiny of law enforcement is leading to a rise in violent crime. This follows a South Carolina prosecutor’s decision to clear officer Mark Tiller in the fatal shooting of Zachary Hammond during a marijuana sting. Meanwhile, the Senate passed the Cyber Information Sharing Act (CISA), raising concerns about the broad definition of cyber threat indicators and the potential for federal monitoring of VPN usage and server pings.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the eighth anniversary of the program with a deep dive into the World Health Organization’s classification of processed meat as a carcinogen. They identify vegan activism within the WHO panel and link the report to the upcoming Paris Climate Summit. The episode concludes with a look at Ted Koppel’s warnings regarding electrical grid vulnerability, the failure of the Steve Jobs biopic, and the mysterious death of Chelsea Ake-Salvacion in a Las Vegas cryotherapy chamber.


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CHAPTER 01 / 53 Discussion

No Agenda Eighth Anniversary Celebration, Austin Mold Issues

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the eighth anniversary and 769th episode of the No Agenda show. Curry reports severe mold levels in Austin, Texas, following heavy rains, leading to a discussion about his living situation in a trailer and the potential need for breathing apparatus or scuba gear to avoid spores.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· eighth anniversary· austin· mold· airstream· podcasting

00:00 A lid. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday October 29th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 769! This is no agenda Celebrating eight years of reality guardianship and broadcasting live from the capital, the drone star state FEMA region six Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where this is a beautiful eighth anniversary I am John C DeVore. It's crackpotting buzzkill! Here we go! Eight-eight years come on! Come on John play your harmonica man play your harmonica come on yeah

00:43 Eight years 769 episodes and you actually Were playing in tune during the pre the pre stream. That's right harmonica I got I got messages people saying hey John's finally playing on key Well congratulations, I'm getting better congratulations John Congratulations to you, Mr. Adam Kernan and congratulations to all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all the dames and knights out there Exactly Yo! Okay And of course you never want to be sick on your birthday but I'm gonna leave next October I'm not going to be in Austin

01:30 Well, you... is the continuation of the dreaded mold? Yes. Yeah so we had all the rain and then there was like two... Rain causes mold! Well first rain washes away the mold and I had, oh what is it, almost three days of glorious... I was outside walking around feeling good and yesterday boom boom boom boom boom cranks up this morning mold levels off the chart once again This is the time of year that you should be in the trailer. Yes, in a different state! Yeah perfect yeah and I got it's a trailer this is no argument how many times you have to go through this but this is like your fifth time I believe or fourth time fourth time fourth time is your fourth go-round now this isn't this is by far the worst

02:21 Well, you got the trailer if you didn't have the trailer. I wouldn't be lecturing Would you mind refraining from calling it a trailer? I mean call it the inner stream of consciousness It's not just a trailer like I'm like I'm some right on trailer like a double wide or something no no no no no Double-wide trailer No, no the trailer yeah now I'm doing it next and I think we also have a mold period somewhere in February Mmm, I don't remember that Anyway, so there we go 769 episodes. How come people in Austin aren't roaming around the streets with either like a Scott air pack or Breathing apparatus or something to do it? So they don't ingest the mold that would do it I think that's what I need and would it help if I had one of those You know like the Japanese face masks

03:15 I think that would help. I don't know, I think the mold...I think the size of these spores is so small they go right through them but i don't know maybe yeah if you took the face mask off later when you got home and saw it was all black in front. Oh disgusting! It's disgusting Okay, oxygen tank. I could probably get one of those." Yeah! Just with a mask? Yeah! Well, I should get just scuba gear. Have a tank on my back and walk around through town... Hey, how are you doing? I'm here to pick up my dry cleaning. Exactly. Nothing wrong with me. Nothing at all. I don't know for some reason-I see that you had the same lot of clips today. Well it turned out that the dreadful Republican debates

CHAPTER 02 / 53 Discussion

CNBC Republican Primary Debate, Media Bias Criticism

The hosts analyze the CNBC Republican primary debate, characterizing it as hilarious television due to the perceived incompetence and bias of moderators like John Harwood and Becky Quick. They note that the audience turned against the moderators, booing questions that were seen as personal attacks rather than substantive policy inquiries.

cnbc· republican debate· becky quick· john harwood· rick santelli· donald trump· ted cruz

04:01 For starters, we're hilarious. It was one of the best television shows I've seen in a long time! Yeah we had... Well at least two I don't know about the Beck Becky quick. She wasn't that bad, but I like Becky I thought she was okay No hardwood hardwood whatever his name is he's running for president. I think he's the biggest douche on television And all sudden Rick Santelli they let him ask a question I love that Yeah, what's he coming on for? Well he's CNBC and he's the guy that all of a sudden will go off going crazy rant about how everything is screwed. He's kind of like an Ayn Randian type person Right But they had worse than that was Kramer! It was really like okay well everybody who has ever done anything on the channel we'll let them in What were the ratings have we checked the ratings by the way? No I haven't you want to check it out? Yeah I'm gonna check the overnight

05:00 ratings CNBC debate let's see because they probably won't have the full ratings just yet. Ratings drop it says here, let's see well I wasn't gonna watch it I mean...I can see a lot of people not watching it Let's say they had 10 share so that's going to be about 7-8 million I'd say So significantly less, but I have to say... Yeah. But CNBC who the heck even knows how to find it? Even I was watching MSNBC for a couple hours before the debate for some reason like I thought it was going to be on MSNBC and then oh, it's on CNN. It might as well have been with the bias of that group. Yeah. That was pretty interesting. Obviously, I got a couple of clips that I just thought were interesting

05:48 Let me see. I see you have one that, uh...I'm glad you got that about Trump doing the deal for this show to be two hours? Yeah and then the guy jumps in At the end, that Hargraves guy? Hold on. No it wasn't! It was always gonna be two hours Let me play this clip This is your Trump on two hours I presume that's what is right Yeah yeah Three and a half or three hours It was a big sacrifice And I have to hand it to Ben We called Ben He was with me 100% We called in we said That by the way Is a stroke of genius You know...it is so smart Trump. I mean this really shows what the guy's doing he's good at negotiating, he got a competitor in and said hey let's form you know a common front. We're not doing it they lost a lot of money everybody said it couldn't be done everybody said it was gonna be three hours three-and-a-half including them and about two minutes Irene negotiated down to two hours so we can get the hell out of here

06:48 And I'll do that with the country. We will make America great again and thank you everybody, just for the record The debate was always going to be two hours. That's not right, absolutely not right. Just for the record. That is not right. Senator Rubio? Thank you. You know America doesn't owe me anything. What does he mean by just for the record? Is this some sort of legal thing going on? Yeah so I don't get called on it later in my career I don't know, it was stupid. But that to me was kind of a highlight where Trump said look all this bull crap these long shows...I know entertainment now there's not saying that the same skills run a country but he certainly is great television executive and he's right! This was exactly the right amount of time it moved along everybody was interesting and funny in some way

07:41 entertaining for sure and I thought we really saw personality during this. And it certainly had more personality than the Democratic debate, it was... Well, I liked it! Since we're on it might as well get this out of the way play a few clips you want me to play at the best clip of the night? For starters and then I can back off a little bit. Okay The best clip I thought, and there were some great clips because they would go in at it and they were getting the audience on their side. And the audience at one point actually booed... Yeah, booed the question! Booed the question! That was fantastic Well it was very clear mainstream media sucks that was good. That was a theme and these guys fell right into that into the whole thing yeah okay but the best clip which I think I have to say is a Trump-led initiative

08:32 It was fantastic. In fact, let's start with one of those that I think we have... Ted Cruz starts off by going after the panel and this is where I think triggered the whole thing because he was the first, this is his first question and he was asked a stupid question all other questions they're right they were very negative yeah they weren't about topics there but you're falling down in the polls what are you gonna do about it? Yeah I have to say the way Cruz either He's probably a brilliant litigator, that's why he... but he remembered exactly what all the dumb questions were. Yes! He had paraphrased each question to make it sound even dumber so either he knew what all the questions were or he had.. he is just good I guess. I think he is pretty good. Surprising to me. Surprising. Cruz Rant won. Prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets that fear of another Washington created crisis on the way Does your opposition show you are not kind of problem solver American voters want?

CHAPTER 03 / 53 Discussion

Ted Cruz Criticizes Debate Moderators, Bolsheviks and Mensheviks

Ted Cruz delivers a viral response during the CNBC debate, listing the insulting questions asked of his fellow candidates to illustrate why the American people distrust the media. Cruz compares the Democratic debates to a fawning exchange between Bolsheviks and Mensheviks while refusing to answer a debt limit question until the moderators address substantive issues.

ted cruz· cnbc· debt limit· bolsheviks· mensheviks· becky quick· university of colorado

09:28 You know, let me say something at the outset. The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media. This is not a cage match and you look at the questions Donald Trump are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson can you do math? John Kasich will you insult two people over here? Marco Rubio why don't you resign? Jeb Bush why have your numbers fallen What about talking about the substantive issues? Yeah, yeah. You know... The only thing I cannot get past the guy's voice

10:07 He's got a scratch. Oh, he's not easily shitty voice yeah, and he's and he's well. He's got that preachers voice It's a real problem Yeah So let's play the rest of it because it goes on And then they then he tries to answer the question like and then that John Hargraves guy cuts hardwood harwood harwood Hardwood he's not hard what is Harwood? talking about the substantive issues Now this is where I started doing cocaine again, around this time. Do we get credit for this one? And I'm not finished yet the contrast with the Democratic debate were every fawning question from the media was which of you is more handsome and wise? So let me be clear... This is a question about the deadline limit which if you have 30 seconds left to answer should you choose to do so Let me be clear The men and women on this stage

11:05 have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the democratic debate. That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks." Also good line! Good line, Mensheviks! I think that was too intellectual but it was good for the University of Colorado. I thought it was funny And nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators has any intention of voting in a Republican primary. The questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each other, it should be what are your substantive solutions... I just want the record to reflect, I asked you about the debt limit and got no answer. Okay, if you wanted answer then put out but I'm happy to answer the question.

11:52 Let me tell you how the question is. Senator Paul, I've got a question for you on the same subject. So you don't actually want to hear the answer John? You used your time on something else. Senator Paul... You're not interested in an answer John? I'm interested in an answer from Senator Paul! Senator Paul, the budget deal... Oh, you didn't have the best part on there What?! Which is Becky Quick which is a great name by the way. Becky Quick. Becky Quick top of the hour. Becky quick here She said, that's at moderator discretion. I didn't hear that! Oh yeah? Yeah...I don't have it either but right at the end there he says how come you don't want to- How come i'm not getting the mic to answer the question and Becky says It's moderators discretion. It was mean. Well Cruz had two other things which uh I liked a lot this is um

12:44 Yeah, this is uh he's talking to the who was the other the guy asking most of the questions Quinn quintile. What's his name? Yeah, yeah that guy first of all John before we go to break We're clearly not having that beer you mentioned. But I'll give you 30 more seconds to respond... But I'l buy ya tequila! Okay, but I like that because it's completely racist except I guess Cruz can say that If anyone else has said I'll buy a tequila would have been trigger for racism Or even some famous Colorado brownies I'll give you thirty seconds to respond... Famous Colorado Brownies

CHAPTER 04 / 53 Discussion

Donald Trump Attacks John Kasich, Lehman Brothers Connection

Donald Trump retaliates against John Kasich's criticisms by attributing Ohio's economic success to fracking luck rather than Kasich's leadership. Trump further attacks Kasich's past as a managing general partner at Lehman Brothers, claiming Kasich was involved when the firm collapsed and nearly ruined the economy.

donald trump· john kasich· lehman brothers· fracking· ohio· ben carson

13:23 That was kind of cute. Yeah, it was cute and then Trump did I thought one of the best assassinations? I've ever seen this is the one way against Casey oh yeah Oh man, I didn't even realize this So, you know Kasich's gone. Well I wonder about it...Kasich denies it! First of all John- I didn't have time to look it up. Me neither here we go. Here's a look at it first of all John got lucky with the thing called fracking okay he hit- That I think is true that his state doing well because of fracking. Absolutely. He got lucky with fracking believe me thats why Ohio is doing well and thats important for you to know. Number two this is the man

14:00 You gotta set this up. This was after Kasich went after Trump. Yeah, and well he actually I think he said you know people are... He says he's gonna be an incompetent bonehead yeah can't do all these things he says is going to doing we can't afford to have a guy like this in the end as the president yes so he clearly he went after Trump that's why Trump retaliated And thats important for you to know number two man that was a managing general partner at Lehman Brothers when it went down the tubes and almost took every one of us with us, including Ben and myself. What did that mean exactly? Were they invested in Lehman Brothers or... Why does he bring Carson into that? That would be the assumption and probably both of them were. Interesting. Because I was there and I watched what happened and Lehman Brother started it all, he was on

14:53 and he was a managing general partner. And just thirdly, he was so nice! He was such a nice guy and he said oh I'm never going to attack but then his poll numbers tanked that's why he is on the end. So you know what? You can have him. You can have him. Perfect Did you see the earlier debate? The happy hour debate Yes, I only have one clip from it because I thought the earlier debate was no one would answer any questions and then the panelists...the guys doing the debate didn't care. So you'd ask me a question just right now be a pass and asked me a question? Do you think we should put boots on the ground in Syria? You know, I'm glad you asked that. It's about to for one thing let's talk about grocery prices. Have you noticed the price of certain kinds of commodities have gone way up

CHAPTER 05 / 53 Discussion

Lindsey Graham and Chris Christie, Foreign Policy Rhetoric

Lindsey Graham uses self-deprecating humor regarding his academic standards at the University of Colorado during the "happy hour" debate. Meanwhile, Chris Christie employs aggressive foreign policy rhetoric, threatening dictators and challenging China and Russia with a "clenched fist" approach to international relations.

lindsey graham· chris christie· vladimir putin· china· boulder colorado· commander in chief

15:46 Yeah, is that how every kind of yeah a lot of questions are answered. I believe every question was answered like that They wouldn't touch any of them. And then we had the situation, I'll play this right to start it off because it's short but we started off again with Lindsey Graham who is yucking it up as though its just a fraternity thing. I have a Lindsey Graham clip too yeah But this my Lindsey Graham clip This is again...I don't know what he thinks he's accomplishing when he does this Why is he calling himself a dummy? Governor, Senator Grant Well number one thank you for having me here tonight How about round of applause for Boulder Colorado This is a beautiful place Looking at their academic standards, the only way I could have gotten into this university is to be invited to this debate tonight. Somehow he believes that's endearing or something? He's crazy if he thinks that... Yeah! This is very endearing. You know, I'm the dumbest guy here! Is that endearing?! Well here's a clip that I thought was just cringe-worthy yet funny Here's the problem

16:51 We're being walked all over because our commander in chief is weak in the eyes of our enemies. Do you think Putin would be in the Ukraine today if Ronald Reagan were president? Why are the Chinese stealing our intellectual property, hacking into our system? Why are they building islands over resource-rich waters cause they didn't get away with it At the end of the day, ladies and gentlemen. The foreign policy of Barack Obama needs to be replaced in the last person you want to find to replace his foreign policy is his Secretary of State so to the Chinese when it comes to dealing with me You got a clenched fist or an open hand? You pick The party's over to all the dictators. Make me commander chief and this crap stops!

CHAPTER 06 / 53 Discussion

John Kasich and Ben Carson, Candidate Performance Gaffes

John Kasich suffers a verbal gaffe during the debate, mistakenly referring to deporting "10 or 11 people" instead of millions. Ben Carson discusses his own reluctance to run for president, stating he only saw himself in the position after thousands of people urged him to do so, leading to a discussion on the president's role as a "sales guy" for the country.

john kasich· ben carson· medicare· medicaid· deportations· presidential image

17:48 Well, first of all let's play another shorty. This is Kacic in the opening I knew he was nervous when he said that you were here in the opening and this indicated to me that he was nervous to begin with because it couldn't speak and then he built up his nerves to go after Trump and then he got beaten back, but just listen the little gaff he makes here in this opening. perhaps of picking someone who cannot do this job. I've watched to see people say that we should dismantle Medicare and Medicaid and leave our senior citizens out in the cold, I've heard them talk about deporting 10 or 11 people here from this country out of this country." Yeah all eleven of them! I cracked up yeah ten or eleven people did he not know he was going first? Do you think he must have known

18:48 I don't know whether he was... It wasn't madness, it was just nervous. He was a nervous wreck. Also, he has zero presence on camera. He's probably a pretty good guy. He might even be a good president but you're never going to get that! He has zero presence. Yeah, but he lacks karma. Tons of it. You should donate and we'll give him some. Yeah, he should donate Another one that was kind of an interesting little...this is another shorty. This is Carson, who again for all practical purposes in this clip says he shouldn't be president. I've heard this, yeah. Carson probably in terms of applying for a job as president the weakness would not really seeing myself in that position until hundreds to thousands of people begin to tell me that I needed it do it. Yeah. Was that even mean?

19:41 You know, it's so hard. Ben Carr... and I want to like the guy and he is actually quite likable but his way of being forceful is just going well this is crap which is kind of funny but he doesn't really you know what is the job with the president? None these guys are gonna actually change anything we know this is same with every president Yeah you can do executive orders in the President has a lot of freedoms to do things But really he's sales guy for the country Isn't that the point? Isn't that what the president really, you know... He's he's the father figure make everybody feel good or excited. So that's important And then also he's a sales guy. He's got to make sure we're stuff being you know The business is being run it's the chief executive It's a business

CHAPTER 07 / 53 Discussion

New York Times CBS News Poll, Trump vs Carson

A New York Times/CBS News poll shows Ben Carson leading Donald Trump in Iowa, particularly among evangelical and Tea Party voters. The hosts question the statistical significance of the poll, noting the margin of error is nearly equal to the lead, while Major Garrett reports on Trump's eroding demographic support.

donald trump· ben carson· new york times· cbs news· polling· major garrett· evangelical voters

20:29 Now, I found that...I knew this was going to be kind of a very slanted. At least they attempted it to be even though you're right and made it much more entertaining because they were so bad. Well also ahead of this we had, you know, this poll which showed that Ben Carson was ahead and then of course I looked the poll up They all promote yeah all the networks promoted them Right And this was a New York Times CBS News poll now I believe in Iowa, right? I don't know. Yeah but they made it sound like you know Trump is second...I did notice one thing when they showed the poll at the very end what do you think the plus and minus was? It's exactly the difference it's a six percent difference Seven! Oh it says here hold on I have it here The one that showed on this TV screen said seven Hmm well that's a mistake What they did is there were 575 people who were polled

21:24 See, here we go. On October 21st-25th on cell phones and landlines 575 Republican primary voters the margin of sampling error is plus or minus six percentage points for each candidate And of course, that is exactly the difference between the 22 and 28 percent. So they could be neck and neck but you know it's fine I guess that's a representative sample i've had so many arguments with people about statistics and stuff but I guess it's a representative sample and you know Carson has uh has the religious thing going people like him for that People really like him Well I think the poll is bull crap well here's CBS promoting the bad polling for Trump

22:09 Yes. The polls told us a number of fascinating things and with more on that here's Major Garrett. So it seems like the poll is all over the place, you saw seven on the screen I see six in The New York Times he's talking... Scott Donald Trump support has eroded across every demographic group we surveyed but two instances really caught our eye among Tea Party inspired voters Trump support has fallen from 27% last month

22:48 to 19 percent. Ben Carson now leads here by nine points among evangelical voters the two were tied last month, now Trump trails Carson 35% to 13%. Now it's not all bad news for Trump he retains two advantages. The first Republican voters see him by almost a 2-1 margin as the most likely to win the general election next November I don't know if you got a clip of this, but was it before or after? Trump is now saying that he's about to start really spending which i think made a lot of people happy. No, no, I did not catch that. Yeah, I don't know if it was... Was it on the debate? Well before these debates began and still getting into my top clip only then you'll see why.. You clearly have a path This bothered me quite a bit

CHAPTER 08 / 53 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Campaign Ads, Republican Debate Counter-Programming

Hillary Clinton's campaign purchased local ad spots in Iowa and New Hampshire to air during the Republican primary debate on CNBC. The ads focus on middle-class issues and equal pay for women, attempting to provide a direct contrast between her candidacy and the GOP field.

hillary clinton· cnbc· iowa· new hampshire· equal pay· campaign advertising

23:41 This is the Clinton to run ads during the debates. I don't know how this could be allowed But it was only in Iowa and New Hampshire, right? Well that's all accounts Yeah, they shouldn't be running ads at all. This is like can Clinton write ads on her own yeah on the done the Democrat debate too why not I don't know the rules, but I do know that... The rules are you there's no rules. If you're a CNBC and want to take her ads? No that's the difference. I think how it works is she bought local ads and you buy it from the cable station now that may be Comcast yeah I don't know what but you buy on the on the cable stations for their local market the cable stations have

24:28 a number of pods to insert local ads into. Well here's, here is little presentation on the local news here about it and you can hear Hillary and she has gone back to her one word at time cadence in the beginning of the ad. Hillary Clinton is going to run ads during tomorrow's Republican debate On average, women need to work an extra two hours each day to earn the same paycheck as their male co-workers. The Democratic presidential candidate will be airing a series of ads that feature working women and middle class issues among those issues equal pay for women Clinton hopes to give viewers a chance to compare her candidacy with her GOP rivals

CHAPTER 09 / 53 Discussion

Mike Huckabee and the Clinton Machine, National Enquirer Claims

Mike Huckabee emphasizes his history of fighting and defeating the "Clinton machine" in Arkansas politics for over 26 years. The discussion shifts to a National Enquirer story alleging Clinton is facing jail time, reviving conspiracy theories regarding the "Clinton kill list" and the death of Vince Foster.

mike huckabee· hillary clinton· clinton machine· national enquirer· vince foster· secret service

25:16 Well, I thought this was chicken shit. This whole thing that the crappy guys The crappy questions Hillary adds and all the rest of it can be put right on blame put right on the porch But we're right in front of Rance Priebus Yeah This guy is a disaster for the Republican Party He's a noodle wet noodle And he's a nude nick and then he just looks a little bit like Jeff Bezos with hair by the way All right here is the top clip And you can tell me why I think this is the top clip because it brings up an underground subject. He doesn't say it, but he hints at it. This is Huckabee on the Clinton machine. Yes yes yes. Together The leading Republican candidate when you look at the average of national polls right now is Donald Trump When you look at him do you see someone with the moral authority to unite the country?

26:12 You know, as few questions I've got the last one I need is to give him some more time. I love Donald Trump he's a good man and i'm wearing a trump tie tonight get over that one I don't know. Is it made in China or Mexico? I have no idea, as you can imagine. Such a nasty question but thank you Governor. You're welcome! Let me tell ya Donald Trump would be a better president every day of the week and twice on Sunday rather than Hillary. You want to talk about what we're going to be up against next year? I'm the only guy on this stage. Everybody has an only guy, I am the only guy of this and that. Let me tell you one thing that I am the only guy. The only guy who has consistently fought

27:00 I fought the Clinton machine every election I was ever in over the past 26 years. And not only did I fight them, but I beat them. Somebody says I'm a fighter? Well, I want to know did you win? Well, I did and not only that I fight them and when, I live to tell about it and I am standing on this stage tonight evidence of that. I think that ought to be worth something." And you know, did you see the National Enquirer this week? No. Oh no it's Hillary is going to jail and they have got the doctored pictures of her with handcuffs on and stuff and it's about uh... Vince Foster murder-I'm sorry suicide he shot himself in the head twice and had a gun his left hand and so they're saying that the Secret Service is gonna we always say that we know the secret service does not like her

CHAPTER 10 / 53 Discussion

Hillary Clinton on Stephen Colbert, House of Cards Reference

Hillary Clinton appeared on Stephen Colbert's show, where she discussed binge-watching "House of Cards." The hosts find the reference ironic and "sick" given the show's themes of political murder, linking it back to their discussion of the suspicious deaths of Clinton associates.

hillary clinton· stephen colbert· house of cards· late show· binge watching

27:48 But yeah, it's the Clinton kill list or the body count if you want. And she was... That was a direct reference to it? Oh yeah! And she was on Colbert again. Now you recall last time she was on Colbert during the previous Republican debate? I think it was. So she wasn't on the same day but a day before. I actually thought that it was a repeat and I'm like wow, she is on again of course. It may be because he has been running repeats all week. It's not a repeat. You checked. Yeah, everyone was talking about it. I think it was a repeat because this week he took off. Well did we hear this the last time then? What do you binge watch? Do you have a show that you really like? We have a lot of them and we finally finished House Of Cards It took awhile because

28:35 We were slow going. You watch that show on every yawn and go, yeah, another murder I mean really? That is so sick in context. Another Murdy ho hum whatever old hat for the Clintons Yeah it was a rerun It's hard for people when i tell people You know, it's like you should really not become friends with the Clintons ever and here is why. Even if I point them to all of the... There is no doubt a lot of Clinton friends die now that doesn't necessarily implicate them but people don't need when I say... They are pretty good at this. Hey! It's like potato chips. You eat one and finish the whole bag keep on going

CHAPTER 11 / 53 Discussion

Mika Brzezinski Criticizes Hillary Clinton, Sexism Claims

Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski criticizes Hillary Clinton for accusing Bernie Sanders of sexism regarding his "shouting" comments on gun control. Brzezinski calls Clinton's tactic "pathetic" and "straight out of Veep," arguing that such claims denigrate actual issues of sexism and equal pay.

mika brzezinski· hillary clinton· bernie sanders· morning joe· sexism· gun control

29:23 Hillary did something, I thought off base and I have to tell you Mika Brzezinski daughter of the elitists My heart is going out to her. She's doing some interesting analysis of her own, and this was where Hillary Clinton went out around the country after the Democratic debates and said well you know some people say I'm shouting about gun legislation or some people think that when a woman speaks up she's shouting which was clearly a slam at Bernie Sanders And Mika Brzezinski tore Hillary a new one on that, and I really liked it. I've been told to stop shouting about ending gun violence Well...I haven't been shouting but sometimes when a woman speaks out some people think it's shouting But- And listen to the program bots all in on it! Jeez! This was unfair It was unfair, this is not what Sanders intended

30:26 I won't be silenced and i hope you won't be either. How many more people have to die before we take action? Is that sexist though, what Bernie Sanders said? No That was... Don't make me say it, Joe. No, please don't make me say it because then you know Well let me just say that's pathetic Okay That is absolutely pathetic That was pathetic I know she's the front runner and I'm sure she's going to win and go for it You know she's gonna win but that is pathetic And by the way That was like Veep Straight out of Veep It wasn't funny

31:07 You know, when Veep does it, Julia Lurie drives it. It's hysterical because it's so ridiculous that wasn't even funny that was pathetic but playing the I know sexism yeah Hillary Clinton knows sexism she should know better than to let her staff make her do that it needs to be her she needs to get out there and talk Everyone stop writing lines for her. They're bad, really bad and when we talk about sexism We talk about women an equal pay and all these things that are important Let's not denigrate it with that stupidity let's not because we embarrass ourselves yes I'm like cringing you really shouldn't have asked me I'm glad you answered because... I'm gonna get killed? There ya go she's everyone's worried about a whole bunch of these everybody's worried about Hillary killing them

31:53 A pre-debate, there was a lot of different things going on. By the way I'm gonna stop here for a second because when we get to the meat discussion later it's the same thing... I'm a little tired of people saying, well we know she's going to win. Well she...we know she is going to be the nominee We know she is gonna be the next president This is bull crap! This what he said He said that well we know she is gonna win and then... She said it Mika said that actually She said it, we know she is gonna win No I think he said it Oh I'll double check Whatever, it doesn't matter. Everybody says that! Well that's the same thing as saying I like Donald Trump not that I'd vote for him That's the same thing It's chicken shit is what is is and its pathetic Beyond that... This is coming to a conclusion before this... We know that New England Patriots went undefeated one year so they're obviously going to win the Super Bowl They lost it Bernie Sanders I think he's making a mistake

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Jane O'Meara Sanders, Holiday vs Christmas Party Gaffe

Jane O'Meara Sanders, wife of Bernie Sanders, is heard in an interview repeatedly correcting herself from saying "Christmas party" to "holiday party." The hosts identify this as a "borderline clip of the day," highlighting the influence of political correctness on the Sanders campaign's language.

jane o'meara sanders· bernie sanders· political correctness· christmas party· holiday party

32:57 He's let his wife out into the wild. Uh-oh! Yeah, this is Jane O'Meara Sanders and I see... Sweet woman She's very sweet she seems you know she kind of like a little bit hippie vibe to her which i kinda like Little bit yeah but she is way too in on the political correctness tip In this interview, uh, this is about a minute and she does it not once but twice. It's like an anecdote or or a trade of his that you think God I wish people everybody in the country knew that it's got nothing to do with issues but just about him well

33:33 Well, I mean he loves music and he is... He's just very sincere. And when he's not talking about the issues and he's with seniors for instance in from Seniors? What does that mean? Seniors from like you know from the New World Order or Bilderberg or high school. When he's not talking about the issues and he is with seniors for instance in Vermont, He is very there. He is very present. He is listening to them and enjoying what they are telling him. He is thinking in the back of his mind what else has to happen but you know he does a Christmas party every year holiday party

34:09 All right, so she corrects herself there. The political correct thing to say is we had a holiday party not a Christmas party and I'll give her that but she does it again he has For seniors and then there's one that somebody he ran his first campaign for mayor against condominium complex, a luxury condominium complex on the waterfront. He wanted people-oriented waterfront The developer of that has become a very, very good friend. He's a Republican you know we've never asked him for any donations or anything but he's become a very good friend and he started with us 35 years ago to have a Christmas party or holiday party for low income families. What? She can't... They told her it was a holiday party. It is the borderline clip of the day because it so obtuse Thank-you very much I will accept your borderline clip of the day nomination

35:06 That is a fantastic catch. Yeah, well it's because I heard it twice and oh come on lady first time I'm sure you didn't even notice it But when you saw that you heard the meme It was like a meme at that point Christmas I mean holiday Christmas I mean holiday Christmas I mean holiday party like Kwanzaa I mean holiday parties she was actually She may have asked them may actually be the way she always describes it Christmas party, I mean holiday. She wants to put the Christmas word in so she's not being cowed out of this. Oh! I'm going to say Christmas because it's Christmas because she looks like that type but I'll measure it by saying holiday as a correction even though I said Christmas. That's possible. So if you can catch her doing it two or three more times which I betcha could thats what shes up too. Having lived in a couple socialist countries and knowing how it works and what

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Rand Paul on Socialism, Stalin and Reindeer Gaffe

Rand Paul criticizes Bernie Sanders' promotion of democratic socialism, arguing that it inherently involves state force and the removal of individual choice. During his critique, Paul makes a verbal slip about "making reindeer" while warning that socialist regimes like Stalin's ultimately lead to the extermination of dissenters.

rand paul· bernie sanders· socialism· stalin· inalienable rights· capitalism

35:57 in particular what does not work. And when I went back to the Netherlands at the turn of the century, went back to Europe, I found it very difficult to conduct business because there's the rules are so much a change. It was crazy town and it was like a culture shock and Rand Paul His conclusion is kind of off the wall, but he says a few things here about Bernie Sanders and of course he's referring to Bernie Sanders and socialism. Yeah the problem though is Bernie complains about crony capitalism, he kinda gets it right but he equates with all of capitalism and actually promotes something called democratic socialism and I've been trying to point out, because i'm on a lot of college campuses we have a big following in college campuses that there's nothing sexy and there is nothing cool about socialism. What there is the implied force that goes along with taking away your choice they tell you cannot make

36:48 Reindeer, you cannot make... He meant well but I don't think he wanted to say you can not make reindeer. What the hell was that? You moron! They tell you cannot make reindeer, you cannot make cars, you cannot sell water only the state tells what you can do. It's the most anti-choice economics. If you don't listen, they fine you. If you don't pay the fine they imprison you if you will not listen ultimately what has happened in history and people get mad when I say this but they exterminate you and that's what happened under Stalin. People say oh no he wants democratic socialism The problem is a majority can be just as bad as one single authoritarian, and that's why we shouldn't allow any of our rights to be subject to a majority. Our founding fathers understood that they understood that your rights come from your Creator and no majority should be able to take them away from him

37:40 I don't agree completely. I don't know if the rights came from the creator, it doesn't specify that but these are inalienable rights. We had the rights when we were here but he added the creator part and i'm not so sure if that's true How about the three by three? I think I saw ABC really hammering Trump based on a poll I don't have any clips from ABC hammering Trump. I have one. Well, do I? I have one here's one First I want to say about Donald Trump he makes me smile in the course of this Watching him yesterday is like a guy with Iowa electile dysfunction trying to give his folks polling viagra to get his poll numbers up He just wanted to get that Viagra line

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Ben Carson's Childhood Anecdotes, Throwing Rocks at Cars

Ben Carson shares stories from his youth about being a troublemaker, including throwing rocks at cars to provoke angry drivers into chasing him. He describes his athletic ability to leap over ten-foot fences to escape the police, noting that this was in an era before law enforcement was as quick to use lethal force.

ben carson· childhood· throwing rocks· police· fences· new hampshire

38:21 There's some bonus pull numbers up there must be there must be some kind of deal if you mentioned by agra you get a hundred dollars or something it could be yeah and Then I have Ben Carson who was a bad boy When he was a kid, yeah, I don't know. It wasn't trouble me the troublemaker He was at the New Hampshire University Yeah, I heard this too. You want me to play? Yeah plans for me. I couldn't wait till school without baseball, basketball, dodgeball any kind of ball. Throwing rocks at cars I really liked that anybody remember throwing rocks at car when they were young? There were a few honest people everybody did Did you ever throw rocks at cars? I can't remember doing that We threw rocks at each other but not at cars Because it was so much fun because those old people they would sometimes get angry

39:22 And they would stop the car, and they would get out and they would chase you. We would run slowly to encourage them but when they were nearby we were gone like a flash But sometimes police will come always in unmarked cars They'd be chasing us across the field They would think that they had trapped us There was these tall fences about 10 feet tall They had no idea how adept we were at getting over those fences. I mean, full speed ahead never break stride leap high into the fence allow the momentum of your feet to swing you over the top drop down on the other side all in one motion and laugh at them because they couldn't do that now That was back in the day before they would shoot you. And then... I just can't

40:12 Really? That's probably true. I have a clip about a cop shooting that only ABC or one of the networks is playing this, but it was the cop shooting in South Carolina so white kid with some white goofy looking gawky kid who looks like some wannabe engineer of the future and play this clip. ABC? Yeah, ABC. There will be no state criminal charges after an unarmed teenager on a first date was shot and killed by a police officer This is the teenager his family outraged tonight And for the first time authorities have now released the video from that fast-food parking lot You can see the images the moments right before the officer opens fire

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Zachary Hammond Police Shooting, South Carolina Verdict

A South Carolina prosecutor ruled that the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Zachary Hammond by officer Mark Tiller was justified. Hammond was shot during an undercover drug sting involving a small amount of marijuana; the hosts describe the incident as "murder plain and simple" and criticize the lack of charges.

zachary hammond· seneca· south carolina· mark tiller· police shooting· marijuana

39:22 And they would stop the car, and they would get out and they would chase you. We would run slowly to encourage them but when they were nearby we were gone like a flash But sometimes police will come always in unmarked cars They'd be chasing us across the field They would think that they had trapped us There was these tall fences about 10 feet tall They had no idea how adept we were at getting over those fences. I mean, full speed ahead never break stride leap high into the fence allow the momentum of your feet to swing you over the top drop down on the other side all in one motion and laugh at them because they couldn't do that now That was back in the day before they would shoot you. And then... I just can't

40:12 Really? That's probably true. I have a clip about a cop shooting that only ABC or one of the networks is playing this, but it was the cop shooting in South Carolina so white kid with some white goofy looking gawky kid who looks like some wannabe engineer of the future and play this clip. ABC? Yeah, ABC. There will be no state criminal charges after an unarmed teenager on a first date was shot and killed by a police officer This is the teenager his family outraged tonight And for the first time authorities have now released the video from that fast-food parking lot You can see the images the moments right before the officer opens fire

40:59 investigators revealing what they believe happened and why they believed the shooting was justified. ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas tonight. The young couple was sitting in the car after buying ice cream on a first date it all goes down in seconds following a sting which undercover police allegedly sell drugs to woman riding this car with 19-year old Zachary Hammond Seneca, South Carolina police officer Mark Tiller with his handgun drawn tries to make an arrest briefly stepping in front of Hammond's car. But Hammond attempts to speed off Officer Tiller fires hamming struck twice in the side and back dies today a South Carolina prosecutor concluded the shooting was justified that Officer Tiller had reason to fear for his life and that he had a difficult decision to make In just three seconds

41:46 Yeah, so they show the video yeah And if you hear the description he was shot twice in this side and once in the back of their head Yeah, and there's supposedly. This is fine because he was fearful for his life The kid was driving away yeah driving it and so the cop just kills him oh Uh, over apparently a lid or half an ounce or something of pot which is another reason to legalize this drug. What's the lid? A lid is the old term for an ounce. Okay thank you. Amen got it very old term sorry. Can you walk into uh dispensary and ask for a lid I bet you they know what you're talking about. At least in California. That's like a hippie term, lid. It was a lid and so they shoot this kid who has nothing to do with it and the girl gets arrested and nothing happened to her. I'm sure it was worst date of her life ever. And it was murder! Yeah. Oh yeah. It was murder plain and simple and South Carolina prosecutors and everybody involved are corrupt

42:45 to not get this guy taken off the streets. My wife used to actually trained to be a policeman when she was younger. And she knows a lot of cops. A police officer, you mean? To be correct. Policewoman. And so she knows a lot of cops. Hey do you remember Angie Dickinson Pepper? Policewoman? Yeah. That was cool. So I... She says that the old cop... The old guys are trying to get out of the force because they're uh.. The young kids are coming up don't seem to understand how this all works and they just as soon shoot and kill some teenager over some small amount of marijuana. A lid! A lid, a small amount of marijuana... Are you gonna stay on this lid thing forever? No no I like it is it's cool and sorry To kill because they're trying to make a point here which is these cops don't give a shit these younger cops

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The Ferguson Effect, James Comey vs White House

FBI Director James Comey suggests that a "chill wind" has blown through law enforcement since the Ferguson protests, leading to a "Ferguson effect" where officers are less proactive, potentially causing a rise in violent crime. The White House and various analysts dispute this claim, while former Commissioner Ray Kelly supports Comey's assessment.

james comey· ray kelly· ferguson effect· fbi· white house· policing· crime rates

43:40 And, I mean all week we've been watching the same thing about this one brutal cop who pulled some kid out of a chair. Yeah so we have the Ferguson effect is what is what we now have... Have you seen? Have you heard about this conversation? Well I do have that clip of it actually and I have Comey versus the president versus the police! Well how about I play mine first and then we'll see if yours fits into it Do you agree with her? This is former New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly On with Brolf talking about the Ferguson effect. Do you agree with the remarks of the FBI director James Coby when he suggested that this rise in crime and some... Did he say Coby? He might have, let me roll it back. Brol- You never know with Brolf. ...agreeing with the remarks of the FBI director James Coby... He does say Kobe! What an idiot

44:25 Kobe when he suggested that this rise in crime in some parts of the country may be a result of the chill that has swept law enforcement since Ferguson. Yes, I do. I commend Jim Comey for telling it like it is to me if you talk to police officers and other jurisdictions not only In New York where or I am they'll tell you that there they're backing off a lot of police work discretionary and they don't want to put their careers at risk, they don't want to put their families well-being at risk. So they're hesitating somewhat in some people's minds I guess that's a good thing in my mind it's not a good thing proactive policing and my judgment has reduced crime in this country for two decades smarter policing better use of technology now they are not teenagers taking those the initiative you might say

45:14 And that's what causing, in my judgment not totally but to a significant extent an increase in violent crime In 30 major cities throughout the country I can't blame them It is probably the older guys like fine let the young guys do it. I don't want to be on TV When something goes wrong. Mimi also pointed out these old guys think these young guys are dangerous They appear to be good police they appear to be yeah, and this is probably influence from the stupid shows on television They're always killing everybody. Yeah, let's just shoot the guy." So here is the Comey comment that really got everybody bent out of shape. Police officers have fueled an increase in crime. Speaking to police officials at a conference in Chicago Monday, Comey said the so-called Ferguson effect is just common sense

46:04 And so the suggestion, the question that's been asked of me is are these kinds of things changing police behavior all over the country? and is that what explains the map and calendar. The honest answer is, I don't know. And I don't know that that explains it entirely. But I do have a strong sense that some part of the explanation is a chill wind that has blown through law enforcement over the last year." The White House, meanwhile, disputed the FBI director's claims about the supposed connection between increased crime and increased scrutiny of police, saying, quote, "'The evidence we have seen so far does not support' the contention that law enforcement officials are shirking their responsibilities.'"

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Barack Obama on Law Enforcement, Baltimore Unrest

President Obama addresses a police conference in Chicago, acknowledging the dangers of the job while calling for a partnership between society and law enforcement. The hosts argue that the administration's rhetoric often "hangs cops out to dry" and suggest that the real drawdown in policing is most evident in Baltimore following the Freddie Gray case.

barack obama· al sharpton· chicago· baltimore· law enforcement· police conference

46:44 This was a police conference in Chicago, I believe. Which is kind of funny by itself. Yeah it's ironic How many people die every day in Chicago? 7-8? In the weekend 40 people die... Well actually I heard Obama's thing and have the clip of that. I got a clip of that you want to hear the clip my guys? Yes here's what Obama says and by the way this was influenced by Al Sharpton who still working at the White House as far as I know And I found this with the president but the way he said And this is one of those rare cases where I didn't take out the long overdrawn pauses that he puts in. It sounded condescending to me. We can't stop every crime, we can't prevent every tragedy there is evil in the world they're just some bad people you don't know why sometimes they just it just happens You can't always make excuses for it Sometimes you can't even understand it That's why we need laws That's why we need law enforcement How about poverty?

47:49 That's why your job is dangerous. So we can't eliminate all of that. This is the same conference? Yeah, but if we take some of the actions I just talked about then we will be able to help you do what you do every day which is save people's lives. We'll be able to make sure that this society is a partner with law enforcement and were not just sending you out there to do dirty work And then hanging you up to drive if it doesn't work out well. Which is exactly what you do, Mr President! Exactly what you do! But then instead we're all working together tackling these hard problems No no whenever there's white officer black victim or perp or dead kid or whatever You're always out there

48:43 Saying this has to stop. Nah, I didn't know sorry anyway I think that call me I think everyone's kind of missing the point What causes this idea what happened in Fergus is not a new thing has happened before and it still sketchy situation in Ferguson Yeah, I don't think any of that's affected the couch But I think one thing did affect the cops and I think if there's any drawdown In policing which is obviously not the case in South Carolina where they killed that poor kid yeah If there's any draw down its because of Baltimore Yes, Baltimore and if you look at the Baltimore stats its Baltimore where they were the crime is rising It's Baltimore where the murders are going up because the Baltimore police Did not like the idea of six of their own being Arrested for murder right for tossing some guy around in the back of a van. Yeah

49:32 That was the end. And then they have this douchebag female black mayor who's not backing them up at all and is in fact going after them, this is a rebellion going on in Baltimore We need to have a conversation...in this country But nobody mentions Baltimore? No Well of course not! It's a sore spot it doesn't look good And with that I'd like to say thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C where the c stands for Kobe Dvorak. And in the morning, Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the names of nights out there in the morning everybody in the chat room know agenda stream dot com and thank you for showing up for our 8th anniversary celebrations In the morning 220 watt bulb along with Oliver other artists 20 watt bulb or bought us the artwork for episode 768 terror Tuesdays it was a beautiful

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Executive Producer Donations, Eighth Anniversary Credits

The hosts acknowledge high-value donors for the eighth anniversary show, including a discussion on the origins of Kingsford charcoal as a venture between Henry Ford and Thomas Edison. They also read a note from a donor who redirected their NPR subscription funds to No Agenda, citing the Koch brothers' underwriting of public radio.

donations· executive producers· kingsford charcoal· henry ford· npr· koch brothers

50:24 8-ball in anticipation of the eighth anniversary. And you can always find all of the submitted artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com. We have a few fine executive and associate executive producers for show 769, I want to mention that we do the list that will appear on the The final show when it's produced, the show notes and the show page will include everyone who has donated $310.26 and $210.26 as their second executive producer credit. We also have a couple people that donate more they wanted to pull some money out of that. And how about the $88.88? No. Okay. You know we thank them on the show!

51:11 They've got thanked. I haven't been paying attention, I do the audio production. I'm the audio guy! We get the doubles and then the 88s or the 88's. Alright And the double were promoted as doubles, the 88 never were. They're just like the sack of 8s. Or eight ball or whatever So let's start with Derby Dyke in Tucson Arizona $310.26 uh... he also wants to call on marv s of tucson and steven v of bethlehem says uh... when i got josh as well john is that it's the ok we have all three of them

51:56 He wants to thank us for a curse happy 8th anniversary And he wants me to pick a jingle and every time I you know, I always want to write some jingles not because everyone's trying to think of some classic Jingle right that we haven't played for a while. Yeah, but How about playing the bugs bugs things? Oh, yeah, I love bug song Usually have that handy here we go bugs You've got karma Nailed it. It's like poop Adam Kowalski in let me I just close cuz I gotta have a Deutschland Wurzburg Wurtzburg Wurzburg in Deutschland 310 2060 sent us an old little email no big deal and

52:50 But he did send it. It's easier, he says it's easier to donate to no agenda than buy a rug on Amazon. Okay? Hail Sir Adam the Baron of Poland! Oh yes! He's the Baron of Poland. I guess... Well, thank you Adam. Yeah! Or does... The Incognigro comes in with $250 to send a long note but he doesn't want me to read it He doesn't want you read anything? No, he doesn't want me to read the following. Okay. Incognegro living his self-imposed exile here in north eastern Pennsylvania so now we know where is sovereign of right of the night nursing staff

53:36 Where everyone chimes in with $250 or he chimes him for 250 dollars to encourage the excellence that is the no agenda? Episode 7 6 5 oh so you'd like remember we mentioned. That's one of our best episodes mm-hmm That says note you also send thank you longer note. Thank You incognito. Thank you Yes, and he says hail Apple at the hail apple Shamanic ape in Kingsford Michigan Kingsford I believe it could be wrong But maybe where they were manufacturing the charcoal. Because Michigan is where the idea came from. Charcoal was an idea that was hatched between Henry Ford and Edison, because they were making these cars and they're using wood frames and had all this sawdust

54:25 They didn't know what to do with it, and Ford wanted to turn a quick dime on it. So they invented the charcoal briquette. Really? Yes! And its called Kingsford. So they invented that before the hibachi? I believe so because the hibachi used wood initially. Natural charcoal. Kingsford... King is the king of inventors and Ford. Kingsford. Ohhhh okay, I didn't know that. So they named a town after it. Wow. Please forgive me for being a douche. I hope this small donation Will begin to repay the value you have provided for your excellent analysis and entertainment sincerely shamanic ape of the Rui Q's So do we have a letter we need we have another note missing note, which is Andre Kelka from the Czech Republic $210 this key key. I should be looking at Andre with a J right in an O I don't have anything from him

55:30 I don't think we've ever heard from him actually. No, I just see that note and I don't see anything from him from that name anyway All right Well if he has something to say He'll send it later yeah and send us some details on what's happening in the Czech Republic yes The Czech Republic is important Nicholas Blexer Rud Did they have unusual names 210 26 would be an associate executive producer along with Andre? Portland Oregon He has a note that's for sure. Let me click on it so I can blow it up come on Congrats, on the eight years longtime droner Second time donor can I get a de-douching and a douche bag call out to forgive him a deducing first? You've been D douched

56:23 And a douchebag call out to both Aaron Abramson, long time listener no donation he says and Terry Neebling. Sorry say it again? Terry Neibling student but he donates well what am I giving him a douche bag call-out for? I've stopped my subscription with my local NPR radio station and instead giving it to the only two people who give me the truth I guarantee the mainstream NPR superfans driving around with their highbrads plastered with NPR stickers know that their beloved station was underwritten by the Koch brothers. They'd probably shit a brick! Thank you both for your dedication to deconstruction, keep it real mofos can i get a don't eat me Hillary so juicy and a Hillary laugh? You betcha. Don't eat me Hilary Clinton! Oh my gosh can you see that juice?!

57:20 You've got karma. That's a horrible combo. Yeah, it is Benjamin Carlson in San St Louis and Missouri Dear John and Adam ITM to the best podcast in the universe. I apologize for this for $200 by the way. Apologize for the long delay since my last donation. I mailed the check a few months ago but it was never cashed So I'm afraid it never arrived. Hopefully this one will come through. Thanks to both of you for your excellent deconstruction of the news media, and since native advertising has been a pet peeve of mine for some time now, I appreciate it's become a regular topic on the show. Can I get a douchebagged Jeff Jarvis?

58:07 and his consummate shilling role is Google. Google shill, seriously that guy needs to give it a break if he gets paid from them anyway keep up the excellent or he gets his expenses I don't know something yeah anyway keep up the excellent work in And since I'm celebrating 60th or so anniversary of the US Army spraying zinc cadmium all over St. Louis just to see what happens Can I get a chemtrails followed by a boom shaka laka and a Hillary laugh? Yeah, you bet You've got karma

58:52 And finally, our last day's associate executive producer is Marvin Burkholder in Waterloo New York. $200 please play Out of My Vagina Juice and Karma so he wants she wants out of home God He wants the vaginas thing the juice thing and karma love this show I drive my big rig on the third world roads to get other big riggers that are listen On the third world roads in the great state of New York, the one bright spot is that New York is the home state of the future God Emperor of the University Honorable Donald Trump. Where I know what he wants. I think this is it. What's the whoopee thing? Yeah, I don't know if this is the right... Can you see that juice?! Get out of my vagina! What else did he want? He said karma. It was good. I think that was good. I think it's good too. You thought karma. Actually, that order was better because it was so screwy

59:52 Well, anyway this are the folks for executive and associate executive producers for show 769 I want to remind people we do have a show coming up on Sunday and it usually is a big drop-off after these. This is a good time on Sunday I suggest to get an executive or associate executive producership because Usually there's a big drop off after an anniversary We have to do everything we can to get our donations back up for the rest of the month And in addition to that You know, if for our executives and associate executive producers for today you can now say executive producer or associate executive producer of the eighth anniversary show. Yeah it looks good! It looks good! Yeah and you could do that with all the extra with all those special double dippers that will be listed. All right I'll do that. And we'll have that on the show.

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CISA Legislation, Cyber Threat Indicator Definitions

The Senate passed the Cyber Information Sharing Act (CISA), which mandates that internet service providers and tech companies share "cyber threat indicators" with the federal government. The hosts examine the broad definitions in the bill, noting that common activities like pinging servers or using VPNs could be flagged as "malicious reconnaissance."

cisa· senate· cyber information sharing act· fourth amendment· cybersecurity· whistleblowers

1:01:13 Did you see Ted Koppel on the News Hour? Oh, you know... Now that you mention it. This was- Did you get it?! Yes! Because I really- Here's what happened to me I was listening to... The News Hour is also played on public radio, at least locally. And so yeah, I can kind of pre... Because recording it and so they play it and there's Ted Koppel as oh man! I got a rush home to get this because it's ridiculous. It is off the charts. It's like if poor bastard can't get work or somebody stole his money. Well, this is all connected. This is all connected. You do it then? Okay. The CISA that's the Cyber Information Sharing Act.

1:01:53 passed the Senate. And if you look at the committee report, which I have a copy of in the show notes, of course marked up this is really an unbelievable violation where every single company that provides any kind of service on the internet so that is your Google, that's your Yahoo, that's your Amazon, everybody... Your ISP? That's right! Everybody will by mandate have to share, and they want to do this in automatic fashion. If there's a cyber threat indicator that will go straight to the feds and these companies will be indemnified so they can't get in trouble, they can't get sued, they can't be prosecuted for doing this violation of fourth amendment none of that applies. Why don't we just indemnify everything everybody for everything? So the only thing I wanted to read...and this will lead us into COPL

1:02:46 Because this is why all these things are happening right now. This is why everything cyber is about this bill because it's going to come to a final vote and it's gonna have to pass What I liked about this bill for the show that is, is the definition. So here's a clause here under the first article... The term cyber threat indicator is one of the most important definitions in this act." That of course got my attention! It has defined as information that is necessary to describe or identify and so here's what cyber threat indicators are. If you do any of the following things you will be reported to the authorities 1. Malicious reconnaissance

1:03:26 including anomalous patterns of communications that appear to be transmitted for the purpose of gathering technical information related to a cyber security threat or security vulnerability. What if you're a cyber security researcher? Or what if you just want to ping and see if Google is live. That could be reconnaissance. It is! Trace routing, pinging... It's not would-be. Yeah probing ports all of that stuff. Two A method of defeating a security control or exploitation of a security vulnerability Which even if you forgot your password and you keep re-entering stuff... That's your Tor network, that's your VPN. Yep! That's any of those things that you commonly use As do YOU! 3. A security vulnerability including anomalous activity that appears to indicate the existence of a security vulnerability

1:04:21 I'm not sure what that means. Well, tell you this is a bad thing to do. This is discouraging the white hat guys who go in there and look for problems and then they would sit for what is it? X day one day. What does that exploit zero day zero day exploits the guys who will go out and find those things which protects us all. They're now violation. There should be locked up for trying to make this worse. Oh yeah well this is why Snowden is no good snowed in his pushing for this too Four, a method of causing a user with legitimate access to an information system or information that is stored on processed by or transmitting and information or transiting an information system too unwittingly enable the defeat of security control or exploitation of a security vulnerability. That's also your white hat guy Five malicious cyber command-and-control I mean that could even be remote desktop

1:05:16 Six the actual yeah, the actual or potential harm caused by an incident including a description of the information Exfiltrated as a result of a particular cybersecurity threat so if you describe Or if you repost Information exfiltrated as a result of a particular cyber security threat hello wiki leaks that will be in violation Yeah This is this is one of the many things out to get wiki leaks and where the press Or the press or anybody who doesn't feel repressed. I mean they have a clause about whistleblowers, but screw it! Seven... Any other attribute of a cybersecurity threat if disclosure of such attribute is not otherwise prohibited by law? So any other attribute of a cyber security threat if disclosure of such attribute is not otherwise prohibited by law what does that mean?!

1:06:05 It's vague. Yeah, eight any combination thereof. What is a combination for? And so the news hour this all happened on the same show They, of course they got into the...they did a sit down. They had a little forum which was co-sponsored by the CIA and of course Brennan was there and Gwen Ifill was the moderator so could we I mean are you a shill or what? And as part of all this happening right now they of course talk about his email being hacked and listen to not only what he says but then how PBS public television just

1:06:42 Just lies. I asked Brennan about it today at a forum co-sponsored by George Washington University and the CIA Certainly, I think saying George Washington University and the CIA is like the same thing It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I certainly was concerned about what people might try to do with that information. I was also dismayed at how some of the media handled it, the implication of some of the recording was that I was doing something inappropriate or wrong or violation my security responsibilities." Yeah, now he's right because he was not in office at the time when he was using this but

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John Brennan Email Hack, PBS NewsHour Coverage

CIA Director John Brennan discusses the hacking of his personal AOL email account at a forum. The hosts criticize PBS NewsHour and moderator Gwen Ifill for downplaying the severity of the data breach, which included Brennan's detailed security clearance background check and family social security numbers.

john brennan· cia· pbs newshour· gwen ifill· hacking· wikileaks

1:06:05 It's vague. Yeah, eight any combination thereof. What is a combination for? And so the news hour this all happened on the same show They, of course they got into the...they did a sit down. They had a little forum which was co-sponsored by the CIA and of course Brennan was there and Gwen Ifill was the moderator so could we I mean are you a shill or what? And as part of all this happening right now they of course talk about his email being hacked and listen to not only what he says but then how PBS public television just

1:06:42 Just lies. I asked Brennan about it today at a forum co-sponsored by George Washington University and the CIA Certainly, I think saying George Washington University and the CIA is like the same thing It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I certainly was concerned about what people might try to do with that information. I was also dismayed at how some of the media handled it, the implication of some of the recording was that I was doing something inappropriate or wrong or violation my security responsibilities." Yeah, now he's right because he was not in office at the time when he was using this but

1:07:31 he immediately is like, oh it's all about me. But then listen to how... because we know what was stolen or what was published, exfiltrated uh was his background check form which has a lot of information on it. It has this you know its address, his kids, you know what he's done, his health and there's a full-on draft but it's a full-on background of Brennan but then listen how the NewsHour explains what was lost. Which was certainly not the case The hacked data included Brennan's contact list and his wife social security number. You liar, you liar Gwenaethel! That is a lie it had so much more. It was just covering up okay so then at the end of the show Ted Koppel comes on now Ted Koppel for those who don't know was a news anchor one of the big three it was that Tom Brokaw

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Ted Koppel's "Lights Out", Electrical Grid Vulnerability

Former Nightline anchor Ted Koppel promotes his new book, "Lights Out," which warns of a catastrophic cyber attack on the U.S. electrical grid. Koppel cites warnings from Leon Panetta regarding a "Cyber Pearl Harbor" and criticizes the government's lack of a plan for a long-term power outage.

ted koppel· lights out· electrical grid· cyber attack· leon panetta· cyber pearl harbor

1:08:23 No, no Jennings. No, no, I'm sorry he was He was the anchor at the nightline show when it's actually a news show. I'm sorry ever you're right This guy Reynolds was the first guy Reynolds was uh, I can't remember his first name But Reynolds who is the real this did the model for this type of reporting? Was the anchor news I can't even remember the name of the show half the time because it's been degraded so much. But he was the anchor on the show during the hostage crisis, during Carter's administration and he starts to show with Nightline, he starts to show with

1:09:05 We are going to stay and report on this exclusively until the hostages are recovered. And it was day six, then it became day 30 then it became day 90. So apparently this was his idea when it became Day 300 or so they I think they dropped the day of the show is kind of like a three by three. It's great. It was horrible. Um, so yes, you had a choice back in the day could watch The Tonight Show You could watch Letterman we could watch Nightline Wasn't that it? It was you could know Letterman was almost late during that era But it was like it was like the alternative to the talk shows do you had night and the talk shows what was there was one talk show it Was Carson right and the other guy the other shows were just trying to struggle so Nightline came into being okay, so couple of your right He must be looking for a gig And he got in with CIA or somebody and then he wrote. He wrote a book called lights out

1:10:04 And we'll start off with the backgrounder. You have written a book about the next big threat, we always talk about cyber threats, about hacking but you're talking about the electrical grid We are accustomed to cyber attacks that result in grand larceny We're accustomed to cyber attacks that amount to huge vacuuming of intelligence. No, no that's not cyber attacks! That is our government who is doing the vacuuming. Information... What we've never had is a cyber attack that amounts to a weapon of mass destruction. Weapon of mass that we're all gonna be blowed to bits John my point is that if someone succeeds in Taking down one of our power grids and the Russians can do it and the Chinese can do it And maybe the Iranians and North Koreans North Koreans everybody can do this Everybody everybody could you know, the grid? Of course is just one system. You just flip a switch and everything's off The funny thing is Quinn that for up It wasn't funny Dan about Ted whatever news now

1:11:08 a number of our top leaders, including the president. The president has twice mentioned it in successive State of the Union addresses... Which is always scary to me because this president is very good at putting little Easter eggs in so he can later say I told you! Not once but I told you that in two state of unions we have this problem with the grid. Warning just a little paragraph but warning that there are those who are trying to get into our infrastructure especially the power grid The secretary of defense at the time, Leon Panetta. called the threat of a cyber attack on the power grid potentially a Cyber Pearl Harbor. That's pretty huge and nobody was paying any attention to it. Hold on, hold on a second we were paying attention to it! We made a big deal about it. I wondered A are these people exaggerating for reasons that I don't quite understand? And B if they're not what is the government doing to prepare for it and to prepare the public for it

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DHS Response to Grid Threats, Jeh Johnson's Radio Advice

Ted Koppel recounts interviews with DHS secretaries Janet Napolitano and Jeh Johnson regarding grid security. Napolitano estimated the chance of a successful attack at 80-90%, while Johnson reportedly dismissed the concern by suggesting citizens simply keep a battery-powered radio, which Koppel finds woefully inadequate.

jeh johnson· janet napolitano· dhs· ted koppel· electrical grid· emergency preparedness

1:12:09 And my instinct told me that the answer was going to be not much. Not much is an exaggeration, nothing is closer to the truth." This a nothing problem? Nothing! Well hold on because he went to several department heads of the Department of Homeland Security... Yeah I heard this He talked to Lucy Oh he talked to Lucy Janet Napolitano and he also talked to Jeh J. Johnson? Yeah, and it's not good what he found out John, not good in fact, J. Johnson is a little pissed off at Ted Koppel You have talked to so many people including the last four heads of the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense Gwen is loving this by the way I think she has like royalty to her somehow do you think

1:12:55 that she's feeling? Oh, good point. I never thought of that. You're absolutely correct. He is royalty news royalty in the way she sings you've talked to so many people so many people just so awesome it's Ted you're the man. You have talked to so many including the last four heads of the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense. Four heads! She's talking about four heads yeah. And did you get a sense after talking to them with any one of them knows what to do if this were to happen um Probably not. Several of them know that the likelihood of it happening is great When I spoke to Janet Napolitano just after she left as Secretary of Homeland Security and she'd been on the job for five years, I said to her what do you think the chances are of a cyber attack on the power grid? What do you think those are John? What is the chance of an attack- Well if I was just quit that job And I wanted to throw a bomb under the bus Yeah...I say it's gonna happen any minute

1:13:53 She said very, very high. 80 to 90 percent. It seems to me inevitable that we have to deal with this but maybe because we don't know what the answer is we have not even begun to do so. When you talk to Jay Johnson who currently runs Homeland Security he was trying to be more optimistic, currently being in the job. But it didn't sound like that conversation went well? It did not go well. It did not go well Gwen. Because on the one hand... Because I'm a hard-hitting newsman and i really get down to the bottom of things He conceded that the likelihood of a cyber attack on the power grid is great On the other hand when I said okay what's the plan you're the secretary of homeland security

1:14:35 He sort of dismissed it and said, well as long as you have a radio with extra batteries. Everybody! You need a radio with extra batteries when the grid comes down? If you have a radio and the power goes out and you turn your radio on... What are you going to tell people? I'm gonna give them a signal report that you're five by nine here. What else am i gonna do? He's talking about passively listening and I don't know how you can find out nothing is the one-way radio Exactly, and doesn't it seem a little strange That we're going to defer telling people what the plan is until after the electricity goes out and communication

1:15:15 Communication is far more difficult than it needs to be. That's right, well yeah that's the American way, America! Now- We're all gonna die, play the All Gonna Die clip come on Yeah yeah I have all kinds of things queued up for this jabroni Okay keep going Anyway so he First of all let's start with your initial present... premise Yes Which is which is same way I felt First thing that happens to me when I heard this is, Koppel? Yeah. Who wrote this book for him? Oh yeah oh yeah

1:15:50 And why did they get him to be the spokeshole? Because obviously, now this seems to me to be one of those money grab deals. We gotta get some more money so let's scare the public with it. Well its all for the cyber stuff right now. So its a cyber money. Now this is one of these intelligence agencies or some...one of these groups that writes books for people we talk about this all the time there are a lot of books I mean if the CIA guy called me up and said you know what we want you do something keep an eye on Adam. I said well is there a book in it? Right okay, right? What do you want us to write I'd have him write a book. I'd have my name on there And then we would keep an eye on Adam oh man that would be that you should look at the reviews on Amazon for this thing This is hilarious is the brother Well they start off with all agency people talking about how great five stars five stars and he has editorial reviews from Tom Brokaw Anderson Pooper ah It's a big well so here's the thing that got me though

CHAPTER 23 / 53 Discussion

Mormon Preparedness, Storable Food and Cyber Warfare

Ted Koppel praises the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for their culture of preparedness, recommending that all Americans maintain a three-to-six-month supply of food and water. He also warns that non-state actors like ISIS could buy the expertise needed to launch devastating cyber attacks using off-the-shelf equipment.

mormons· prepping· storable food· isis· nsa· cyber warfare

1:15:15 Communication is far more difficult than it needs to be. That's right, well yeah that's the American way, America! Now- We're all gonna die, play the All Gonna Die clip come on Yeah yeah I have all kinds of things queued up for this jabroni Okay keep going Anyway so he First of all let's start with your initial present... premise Yes Which is which is same way I felt First thing that happens to me when I heard this is, Koppel? Yeah. Who wrote this book for him? Oh yeah oh yeah

1:15:50 And why did they get him to be the spokeshole? Because obviously, now this seems to me to be one of those money grab deals. We gotta get some more money so let's scare the public with it. Well its all for the cyber stuff right now. So its a cyber money. Now this is one of these intelligence agencies or some...one of these groups that writes books for people we talk about this all the time there are a lot of books I mean if the CIA guy called me up and said you know what we want you do something keep an eye on Adam. I said well is there a book in it? Right okay, right? What do you want us to write I'd have him write a book. I'd have my name on there And then we would keep an eye on Adam oh man that would be that you should look at the reviews on Amazon for this thing This is hilarious is the brother Well they start off with all agency people talking about how great five stars five stars and he has editorial reviews from Tom Brokaw Anderson Pooper ah It's a big well so here's the thing that got me though

1:16:47 I, when he went on this tangent. I lost it. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah because we know who can actually save us when the lights go out so it's easy to see there is not a plan but what would you say the plan oughta be mass evacuations from someplace like Manhattan? Can't do it. Gwen, seriously get a grip we're gonna mass evacuate Manhattan okay Gwen so they can go to some other dark place yeah the Lincoln Tunnel will be groovy can't do it too many people no place to put them the only thing and I don't want to be in a position of even sounding as though I have the answers but I spent three chapters of the book

1:17:32 dealing with the Mormons. And the reason I focused on the Mormons is that the Mormons, after 200 years of being driven from pillar to post... What's the etymology of pillar-to-post? I don't know. It's up there with a lid! ...have learned how to survive in difficult situations and they are probably about as well prepared as any large group in the country. So he's advocating preppers now?! Yeah, he's and he'll go deeper into this but no then when you get his next comment here comes real Iroh here it comes and so the one thing that the Mormons do that. I would recommend to Americans in general to do is to have a three-to-six months supply of food seeds we need seeds Get out of your asses get out of the damn country

1:18:27 We need a crisis garden and water. So this is not a corporate responsibility necessarily or government responsibility? We're not talking about state actors all the time? It may be, I mean it maybe their responsibility but since what i'm finding is that they haven't taken that responsibility very seriously or at least have not come up with the solution yet...I am saying to those people who can afford it and I fully appreciate that there are tens of millions of people in this country who can barely afford to put food on the table. You're gonna die! Y'all, you don't have three to six months of food and water? You're dead! You're dead suckers! Let alone get a supply of three to six months but if those who can afford it do it and if the government has a backlog

1:19:15 of freeze-dried food. Oh, that'll be tasty! Which lasts up to 25 years. Storable food!! We can probably survive something like this if we don't do that there will be... We're all gonna die! I am sick and tired of these alarmists. It's so annoying, just another example. You can play some more games if you want. Let me just send the last one it's a shorty and then your rant is valid i want you to go listen to the last bit. You say quite provocatively towards the end of the book that the internet is our weapon of mass destruction thanks Ted in addition to all

1:19:51 the wonderful things. Like porn? Porn, it can be used as a weapon of mass destruction and the dangerous thing Gwen is it doesn't require a government to do it. It doesn't require anyone with a ton of money. 15 year old kid that's the point! Someone sufficiently skilled in cyber warfare using an individual laptop can inflict enormous damage. I've been told by the man who was a former chief scientist for the NSA, the National Security Agency. That he now believes that there are individual groups and possibly a group like ISIS for example which has about two billion dollars

CHAPTER 24 / 53 Discussion

Climate Change Alarmism, Club of Rome and Michael Crichton

The hosts link current cyber and climate alarms to the "fear-mongering" of the 1970s, such as Paul Ehrlich's "Population Bomb." They reference Michael Crichton's "State of Fear" to argue that the media and organizations like the Club of Rome use panic to control the public and drive political agendas.

club of rome· paul ehrlich· population bomb· michael crichton· state of fear· global warming

1:20:32 They got two billion bucks. They could buy the expertise and that the equipment they need is available off the shelf That's a pretty scary prospect. That's challenging them to buy the expertise, well so scary This alarmist thing has gotten on my nerves to an extreme in fact this is the whole global warming thing doing some research on something, and I was referring...referencing the Club of Rome because there is this period when Paul Ehrlich wrote the Population Bomb. And then it came with the race bomb and all these things using bomb as a metaphor. And it was, you know...this is just to scare the population thing that was happening in the 70's which means we're all gonna die by the year 2000 because there are going be too many people who can't feed them. This was nothing more than trying to scare the public. This is all just kind of negative process of frightening the public in any way you can and fear-mongering.

1:21:30 And just curiously, I said whatever happened to the Club of Rome? I think that... Are they still around? I'm sure they're still around. It turns out yes! And did this same guy Ehrlich not write some global warming thing? Yeah he's done a global warming thing. Guess what the club of Rome is all preoccupied with? Well, global warming. Yeah climate change of course climate change and so that this is all fear-mongering It's all designed to put the public in a state of panic In fact the book that the Crichton wrote was State Of Fear. That's what he's talking about And now when this comes up I'm getting a little tired of this sort of fear mongering that is going on in the media's all in on it. Yeah, okay, it's nice when you want to bleeds at leads but somebody getting shot is not the same as fear mongering though

1:22:18 now. And this is your public television, John! This is supposed to be highbrow! They should be ashamed of themselves because it's partially government- The world's not coming to an end tomorrow you don't have to buy heritage seeds heirloom seeds because they're not going to be able to buy a tomato in a week this is all bullcrap and it's annoying that we have to subject ourselves to it. End. Exactly. It's inexcusable and when we talk about the meat issue... Well, this leads right... The same thing! We need to do this now because I'm of the belief that this whole meat scam is about global warming and i think i can prove it but why don't you take us through it? Well that's funny because I have on the same track at proving its about global warming Because.. alright let's do the background. We'll see how we got there. I got there in different way than you did

CHAPTER 25 / 53 Discussion

WHO Meat and Cancer Report, Processed Meat Risks

The World Health Organization (WHO) released a report classifying processed meats like bacon and hot dogs as Group 1 carcinogens, the same category as tobacco. While most networks ran alarmist headlines, CBS News provided context, noting that while the risk category is the same, the actual increase in lifetime cancer risk is significantly lower than that of smoking.

world health organization· cancer· processed meat· red meat· bacon· cbs news

1:23:14 Well, let's start with the says it all clip. This is the ABC... All the networks were in on this. Democracy Now! was in on this. NewsHour was in on this all on the same day at the same time. Meat Is Going To Kill You. You're all gonna die. Cancer warning hot dogs processed meat and bacon now put in the same category as cigarettes and asbestos Yeah, that does it. That summarizes it. So we have... let's see who else? NBC has the- here's a kicker this is the NBC meat or actually play NBC on meat primary teas. This is beginning of their thing. Good evening! The news hit around breakfast time as a lot of Americans were sitting down in front of a plate of bacon or sausage

1:23:59 The alarming warning from the World Health Organization's cancer research arm that goes like this, processed meats cause cancer and red meat probably does too. Probably? Probably! We don't know that it does we have no clue but it probably does. Yeah, probably... And then they have the here's the kicker there's the NBC Meat Kicker The same group said red meat beef lamb and pork are probably carcinogens. Probably! I remember when blue jeans were probably carcinogens. Probably, probably so they all ran and by the way they all ran this as the number one a block story right at the top with the teas opening tees and straight into the A Block at the top i know it was like a storm yeah

1:24:43 Are you getting more? I have to say CBS did a pretty good job of backing people off. They weren't all in on this because CBS, which is the smartest of the networks they're the ones who make all the money and CBS somebody wisely said to them says said to the staff You know, this is the way this is going to cost us advertising. Oh, oh! Is there any way? Because you know that we do have people that might want to advertise the milk people I mean next year. Well, I don't what these people are all about but This seems like we should push back on this because this might cost us advertising money So they ran...this is the CBS so they backed They soft pedaled it as best they could here's CBS on meat and wash your hands after touching any raw meat

1:25:25 Today, an international panel of experts said that eating processed meats such as cold cuts and bacon increases the risk of colon cancer. And eating red meat likely does the same. After today's report by the World Health Organization everyone seemed to be asking how great is that risk? So we asked Dr. John Lepook The WHO committee has placed processed meat like hot dogs and ham in the same cancer risk category as tobacco, but the amount of increased risk is nowhere near the same. Lifetime risk of getting colon cancer is 5%.

1:26:02 Eating the equivalent of one hot dog a day raises that to about 6%. By comparison, one study found the lifetime risk of lung cancer is 1.3% in male non-smokers and about 17% in smokers The evidence was strongest for a cancer link with processed meat The international panel of experts said the cancer link for red meat like steak and pork is weaker Now And they went on in that direction. And they were the only ones who did. Well, they want to be with Goodwill at Port Lobby... Well whatever they wanted to be in Goodwill with it was a more balanced report now when I was doing research on this and you can tell me your stuff after I finish which is um I found the exact same program was set in place in 2010 exactly the same

CHAPTER 26 / 53 Discussion

Vegan Activism and Meat Study Flaws, Epidemiology vs Causality

The hosts investigate Dr. Mariana Stern, a member of the WHO panel, identifying her as a vegan activist who links meat consumption to CO2 emissions. They argue the study relies on flawed observational epidemiology that shows correlation rather than causality, suggesting the report is a political tool to promote veganism and climate goals.

mariana stern· veganism· epidemiology· climate change· red meat· causality

1:26:50 It was the 2010 they did the same roll out the same bullcrap. Was it the same study or there must have been a different study? Yeah, no it was actually bigger studies somehow okay but so I decided I'm just gonna play with myself I am going to take the first expert that they bring on, that's not one of the staffers on one of the networks. And then I'm gonna look into her because I suspect like you do that veganism is somehow in this deal." So play Mariana Stern, I think, on meats...first name I ran into it?

1:27:28 Okay. The committee described a number of possible mechanisms Dr. Mariana Stern of USC served on the panel Processed meat are treated with different chemicals in order to preserve the meat Okay, so I said okay let me just get down and made that little clip So i can just look her up Right She is a vegan and two years ago she's promoting this nonsense that a vegan diet will reduce CO2 emissions by an outrageous amount of money. And you can see, she has this chart that you can find it on Twitter, you look her up, and its the chart showing meat eaters are causing global warming which is exactly what you've come up with! This is just another ploy by the vegetarian vegans

1:28:10 I think it's the other way around. I think that global warming is used as leverage to promote the vegan diet... Dr. Kahne Walters So here's what, here's what I found. Here's what I found. So I found and admittedly, I went looking for it about you know, did a couple searches, meat cancer climate change and then whenever you see the same article posted over and over again and I put the couple of relevant searches into the show notes And it's the same text, but it's on the following websites. EcoWatch, Science Daily, Tech Times, ScienceBlogs.com, MedicalDaily.com... These are all bullshit websites. And what you did is you did a trick that we do on this show and people can do this. You take a leading sentence- Here it is! Eating less red and processed meats has two benefits of

1:29:04 a reduced risk for certain forms of cancer, and reduced effect on climate change. And that shows up everywhere! Everywhere! Now to the bogativity of the study I asked one of our professors it to look at the study itself and here's what he said The research that this pronouncement relies upon does not establish that red meat of any kind causes cancer. It is all based on observational epidemiology, which we know is fundamentally unable to establish causality. What it shows is that there's a certain correlation between eating processed red meat and getting cancer. That could be because eating processed meat causes cancer or... ...it could be because there are things that cause one to both eats lots of processed meat AND get cancer

1:29:51 Or people who eat a lot of red meat and get cancer may just be completely coincidental. Epidemiology tries to remove those confounding factors but its methods are fundamentally flawed, so in other words... It's epidemiology I think is the word? Yeah that what it is So it's almost like CO2 leading or following temperatures It's the same thing. Just because it has commonality doesn't mean that one is the cause of the other necessarily. Right, which is a false... So the study, the conclusions of this study are bullshit! Yeah

CHAPTER 27 / 53 Discussion

Paris Climate Summit, Anti-Meat Public Relations Stunt

The timing of the WHO meat report is linked to the upcoming Paris Climate Summit (COP21), with the hosts suggesting it is a "shameful public relations stunt" to prepare the public for meat restrictions. They criticize the mainstream media for uncritically repeating the "meat kills" meme without examining the underlying data or activist motivations.

paris climate summit· ipcc· vegan diet· media memes· alarmism· public relations

1:30:30 But everybody ran... It's a political study done for the purposes of climate change. Well, no see I disagree with that. I think it's to promote the vegan diet. No but you cannot get around the fact that Paris is coming up and maybe we'll have some agreements about meat production or intake or whatever who knows what these crazy people are doing? I'm taking my... Yes, okay. That's okay. Because Paris is coming up same thing this is their opportunity to get people on board with a vegetarian vegan diet This is the time to do it yes and eat bugs well there's that I would hope to see more bug-eating stories coincidentally during this period of them the anti meat movement but this is a shameful public relations stunt

1:31:21 Whether it was for climate change or whether it was for vegan diet, which I think is really the goal personally. Here's how I see it this is the problem reaction solution The problem was presented, the reaction was everybody...I think in general people are like, I've heard this but they're thinking about it. Oh, I agree! We've heard this too much especially the demonization of bacon or anything and you know blue jeans eggs whatever is all gonna kill you so people kind rolling their eyes but there is a reaction the reaction is really the media everyone ran then we just shortened up to red meat will kill ya yeah didn't even get into the study

1:32:00 It's it bothers me to know and of course I'm just saying this over and over again that the media is so susceptible To going along with this meme based bullcrap No one has the guts even any of them to stand up and say, this is nonsense And bring some guy on which would like you just talk to one of your buddies or that link that I had in there There's a good link in the yeah. Yeah, it's called to this woman who is a long time anti-meat vegetarian activist researcher on WHO meat cancer panel. Is that it? No, no it's the challenge not a single epidemiological study credibly links meat eating with cancer. Is that the one? I don't know...I sent you a list of them. Yeah they're all in there. It's in the show notes. Whatever the case and I said that yeah

1:32:52 This is shame again. I hate I'm gonna use this word too much Shameful it is because I don't know of a better word somebody's got to give me some well that this media is just did again this This is scaring the public needlessly. Alarmism reporting, this is not bleed leads, this is just fear mongering the miserable media and that's why the public was so up in arms during that CNBC sham of a debate for this very reason. And everyone just slammed them immediately yeah they all They're screwing us. Exactly everybody knows this is going on, but they can't do anything about it and the media itself Refuses to do anything about it So what is happening in Paris? And and I've been following this as closely as possible

1:33:37 and we already have African nations in particular but smaller countries are complaining saying, hey wait a minute the ground rules have changed all of sudden for this Paris IPCC meeting. And what everybody wants is...and they're all talking about the huge economic change so when they're talking about Paris they say this will be an economic change at the proportions I go whoa what are you talking about? What they're talking about is who of the rich nations will give what to which one of the poor nations. And that's why you see some African countries going, this is like apartheid when we did this it supposed to be what comes out of this and this is where were supposed to be going that the rich nation send money to the poor nations because it's our fault that we created climate change That's what this about and people like our EPA administrator What's her name from Gina McCarthy

CHAPTER 28 / 53 Discussion

Gina McCarthy on Paris Climate Commitments, Economic Shift

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy expresses excitement for the Paris Climate Summit, citing "bilateral discussions" and financial commitments from countries like China and India. The hosts interpret her comments about "economic change" as a plan for wealth redistribution from rich nations to poor nations under the guise of climate justice.

gina mccarthy· epa· paris climate summit· china· india· wealth redistribution

1:32:52 This is shame again. I hate I'm gonna use this word too much Shameful it is because I don't know of a better word somebody's got to give me some well that this media is just did again this This is scaring the public needlessly. Alarmism reporting, this is not bleed leads, this is just fear mongering the miserable media and that's why the public was so up in arms during that CNBC sham of a debate for this very reason. And everyone just slammed them immediately yeah they all They're screwing us. Exactly everybody knows this is going on, but they can't do anything about it and the media itself Refuses to do anything about it So what is happening in Paris? And and I've been following this as closely as possible

1:33:37 and we already have African nations in particular but smaller countries are complaining saying, hey wait a minute the ground rules have changed all of sudden for this Paris IPCC meeting. And what everybody wants is...and they're all talking about the huge economic change so when they're talking about Paris they say this will be an economic change at the proportions I go whoa what are you talking about? What they're talking about is who of the rich nations will give what to which one of the poor nations. And that's why you see some African countries going, this is like apartheid when we did this it supposed to be what comes out of this and this is where were supposed to be going that the rich nation send money to the poor nations because it's our fault that we created climate change That's what this about and people like our EPA administrator What's her name from Gina McCarthy

1:34:31 McCarthy. She's giddy, John! She's giddy about Paris she can't wait to go I have to say i'm pretty excited because of the work that the president and leadership here in the US have had and bilateral discussions we've had with China and Brazil and India if you look at all of the commitments that are coming in international context We have more that's money. I think commitments is money the hundreds of millions Yeah, it's money has ever been made before India was a record in it It was amazing. It's been amazing There is definitely a momentum shift and I think all of that is good news in terms of our ability to make progress in

1:35:16 in I think part of the downside of this is, much of the progress that we're going to be making is because we are already feeling impacts of a changing climate now. We are not modeling what might happen. No! Hold on a second...we're not modeling what might happen? You can feel it now-this IS climate change! This is unbelievable what this woman is saying

1:35:56 If I understand her correctly, he says this is not about...we're not modeling. We're not even doing that anymore. We know a fact science is in you feeling the effects The only thing that was missing was her saying we just had the largest hurricane in history. The progress that we're going to be making is because we are already feeling the impacts of a changing climate now, We are not modeling what might happen but I think it's providing momentum for action to happen But i think what the US has provided is a pathway forward A clear acknowledgement that there are solutions on the table today that have never been available to us before, that allow us to continue to grow the economy. To look at where jobs are being grown and explain to both other developed countries and developing countries that we're looking for opportunities for the future... Uh-huh That really are open to all of us and that we need to learn from one another and move forward so I'm pretty excited She's giddy

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NOAA Subpoena Conflict, Global Warming Pause Data

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is refusing to comply with a subpoena from Representative Lamar Smith regarding a study that claimed there has been no 15-year pause in global warming. NOAA cites "scientific integrity" and confidentiality, while skeptics argue the agency is hiding data that contradicts the narrative of continuous heating.

noaa· lamar smith· subpoena· climate change· global warming pause· scientific integrity

1:36:53 Yeah, opportunities in your poor country. We're going to come in and we're gonna rape you with your resources under the guise of climate change will create all these bullshit jobs for something that's not gonna happen it's like why is like Y2K? It's totally like, and meanwhile there is a- At least Y2K did prop ups of the consulting business for awhile. What do you think all these climate change deals are? They're all consultants. Yeah that's true Meanwhile there is little scandal that I just want to highlight because you won't hear it probably anywhere else The federal government chief climate research agency is refusing to give house republicans the detailed information they want on controversial study on climate change

1:37:32 The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said it will not give Rep. Lamar Smith what he recently subpoenaed about the research, citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and integrity of scientific process. At the center of this controversy is a study that concluded there has not been a 15-year pause in global warming. Skeptics of climate change including Smith have cited the pause to prove that increased greenhouse gas emissions mostly from burning fossil fuels are not heating up the globe That's nice. What is wrong with giving them the data? Is it supposed to be open and transparent? Well, it's not going to happen of course Why because they had a study that showed that warm the temperatures have gone down And then they had all sudden a new study that said on and out temperatures have gone up But they won't hand over the data of the new study why Because lying oh Right

1:38:29 They're lying. Yeah, hey we got the new spreadsheet in by the way yes I know okay send you a note but you don't pay attention my notes anymore where did you back channel notes oh sorry back channel note I didn't hear your back channel note come in did the note say we're gonna do a break I think maybe it's a good time. Do you want to do which break? Do you want to do well we can do the first one, I think no then We'll do that one in post okay. We'll do this would be the second break hold on a second make some notes Yeah, I am making noise hair raising It's gonna get me a moment to look up how a loose key yeah You do that what you lose on my ride um we can always cut this piece out too of course I can't spill it today Let me see here. We go let me open it up

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Cap and Trade Scams, Harry Reid's LBJ Gaffe

The hosts criticize cap-and-trade systems as a financial vehicle for commissions rather than environmental protection. They also mock Senator Harry Reid for a verbal slip where he repeatedly referred to "LBJ" (Lyndon B. Johnson) instead of "LGBT" while discussing social progress, with Chuck Schumer attempting to correct him.

cap and trade· al gore· harry reid· chuck schumer· lgbt· lbj

1:39:17 And magically we have something. Hold on, close that... Done! This looks much better. Yes. Yeah hold on. Uh yeah I'd rather do our regular break- Okay no I'm good whatever you're doing you have to sit there and do the crap? Yeah You think we should do the regular break now? No no i'm good okay All right good. I'm amenable all right good yes so easy today all right good Anyway, yeah. So that's all I have on climate change but this is very interesting what's happening and what's going to be happening in Paris and it's all about money It's all about money. It has been about money since the beginning First it was about the cap-and-trade scam And before I'll say again every once in awhile a radical left winger comes out and says it and then they shut him up But I'll say it

1:40:17 The whole cap, why a cap and trade? If you're serious about this just cap no trade. What does the trade do it just doesn't do anything I got a bunch of extra emissions, so I buy some forest land and now I'm good to go. The extra emissions are still going into the atmosphere? That's cap-and-trade. How is that helping?" Because we need the trade to be able to send money to poor countries in Africa and get carbon credits. We need the trade so we can have a trading vehicle that has a commission structure so Al Gore can make money because he owns this Chicago Trading Operation. It says...I hate this. Don't don't it's not gonna say anything.

1:40:54 The Democratic Party, without a doubt is all in and backs and supports LGBTQQIAAP initiatives. And I say that because that is now of course the official acronym Lesbian Gay Bisexual Bi Curious Transgender Queer Questioning Intersex Asexual Allied Pansexual However, what's pansexual? Pansexual means you just love anybody regardless of their gender. It could be anybody or anything Yes it could be a house

1:41:31 Could it be a dog? It could be dog. Yes, that's pansexual So what is Harry Reid the leader of the Democratic Party does he is important Is he pansexual? No, let's bring this up because I want to play you say are you trying to tell us something? I want to play a clip from Harry Reid yes He's the head of the Democrats. I'm not gonna get involved in their politics, but I am going to say this. I think it's time for this country look forward not backwards and i'm satisfied that we've made a lot of progress with issues related LBJ... Let's see. LBJ? Lyndon Johnson? LBJ! And then so then he realizes he said something stupid and then everyone is trying to help including Chuck Schumer

1:42:17 He says LBJ. What is that lesbian bi and Jenner? What is that you moron? Anyway, what are the letters? LGBT. Just what I was gonna say. That's just what I was gonna say! You dick! We've made progress with LBJ also. That play was terrific but anyway... Try and play it off. What an idiot! LBJ. That's great. Doofus! He always has been a doofus. LBJ. And then in the funny, you said LBJ QQTA. Yeah that would be even funnier and here's a little something that happened it's really this was a local news story in Washington DC

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Washington DC High Heel Race, Tasha Salad Winner

A local news report covers the 29th annual high heel drag queen race in DuPont Circle, Washington D.C. The hosts highlight the winner's name, "Tasha Salad," noting that the news reporters seemingly missed the sexual double entendre ("toss your salad") inherent in the name.

washington dc· dupont circle· drag queen race· tasha salad· halloween

1:43:02 Which I like, it's the annual high heel race. Where you get all the transgesters and they do a race in high heels which is very funny but i don't think anyone got the joke at the end of the report because it did air. Drag queens don their heels in Washington DC for the annual Highfield drag queen race in DuPont Circle For the past 29 years on the Tuesday before Halloween, drag queens have paraded along 17th Street before sprinting one block as supporters cheer them on. An American institution. In a city where button down shirts are the norm One participant said the race lets D.C unwind This is a very political town

1:43:46 This sort of thing does not make sense in DC. How it's been around for so long just baffles me, um... So we're out here to support anything that helps DC live more joyfully less uptight A little less concerned about image and just to have fun. Local media say this year's winner, a queen named Tasha Salad ran a record-breaking race of just 41 seconds Does anyone get the Tasha salad reference? I love that name! Tasha Salad? Tasha Salad You know where thats from right? Toss your salad Yeah... You know what that is it's a sexual act

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Germaine Greer Transgender Controversy, Political Correctness Backlash

Feminist scholar Germaine Greer faces backlash and "de-platforming" after stating that post-operative transgender women are not actually women. Greer defends her right to an opinion, refusing to "walk on eggshells," while the hosts note the irony of an early proponent of political correctness being silenced by the movement she helped create.

germaine greer· caitlyn jenner· transgender· feminism· political correctness· free speech

1:44:22 Well, it's a reference to an act. It's not a sexual act itself because that would be tossing a salad which is what people do when they make their salad usually mostly Californians as part of their meal. Yeah okay way to paper over it and then just something I thought was very refreshing to hear in today's political correct world Germaine Greer now I don't think anyone knows who she is anymore But she was, they will after her grousing. It was she growls in a way that you know is worth listening to

1:44:59 I guess people pissed off at her. She said that, well look a man who was post-op transgender is not a woman That's what she said this began when they decided I think it was glamour magazine was going to name Caitlyn Jenner I think they did Woman of the Year! I think they did name her Women of... didn't that happen? Yeah okay They named her Woman of The Year This set some of these older feminists off I Was going to talk about women in power, the lessons of the 20th century because I think there's a lot of triumphalist talk that masks the real historic situation. And apparently people have decided that because I don't think that post-operative transgender men i.e M2F transgender people are women

1:45:49 I'm not to be allowed to talk. But surely if a man who feels that he actually would like gender reassignment, to make him or her feel more comfortable in their body... then that's what should be done. They should be allowed to do that I'm not saying that people should not be allowed to go through that procedure What i am saying is it doesn't make them woman, It happens to be an opinion See! I like that Finally someone just saying hey That's an opinion Don't get all bent out of shape don't try to kill me over this don't hate me Its just an opinion Thank you finally someone talking some sense

1:46:27 It's not a prohibition. Carry on if that is what you think it is you want to do I've been accused of inciting violence against transsexual people That's absolute nonsense But, do you feel that the transgender community has too big a voice now? It seems to me your saying they are becoming what feminists were often called strident Yes, but they very seldom were strident alas. I think that a great many women don't think that post-operative or even non post operative transsexual M to F transexual people look like sound like or behave like women but then they dare and say so

1:47:14 But just because they dare not say so, doesn't mean that person can feel like that and feels more comfortable with themselves. Yeah but so what? That's no my issue! I don't even talk about it. Thank you. Then do you understand how they might feel that you have been hurtful towards them? People are hurtful to me all the time. Yeah listen... Try being your own bad! Now listen to what she says though. She says something very important here at the end of the interview. Just because they dare not say so doesn't mean that person can feel like that and feels more comfortable with themselves Yeah, but so what? That's not my issue. I don't even talk about it a bit Then do you understand how they might feel that you have been hurtful towards them People are hurtful to me all the time Try being an old woman For goodness sake! People get hurt all the time I'm not about to walk on eggshells Exactly This is what we always say

1:48:01 Hey, there was a woman that set this model up. She set the model up she's one of the early ones that setup PC for political correctness comes from a lot of these old feminists interesting and now here we go The chickens have come home to roost and she gets kicked out as public speech So here's a lesson This is the lesson is that your day when you're all PC and politically correct your day will come I guess that's the only really good gig. What was the gig? It was a some major speech is going to give her a commencement or something at one of the big colleges, OK? Yeah, there would have been money and they disinvited her for maybe just a big lecture that they just invited her because she's mean. Well then just being to the transsexuals so let this be a lesson it's a lesson all right we got a couple short things here i gotta

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South by Southwest Panel Cancellations, Gaming Harassment

South by Southwest (SXSW) canceled two panels related to sexual harassment in the gaming industry following threats of violence. Media outlets like BuzzFeed and The Verge threatened to boycott the festival in response, leading the hosts to speculate if the controversy was a promotional stunt to drive ticket sales.

south by southwest· sxsw· gamergate· harassment· buzzfeed· the verge

1:48:58 Oh, you're talking about things being canceled? Here's another one of them. And this one refers right to that person we were talking about the other day. This is the South by Southwest News program— Oh yeah. —is canceled. Yes. And the conference South By Southwest Interactive has canceled two panels about sexual harassment in the gaming industry following threats of violence. It's the latest chapter in the rampant online harassment of women who critique sex sexism in video games. South by Southwest said it canceled the panels after, quote, numerous threats of on-site violence related to this programming." And this is that woman again. Yeah, and those threats of violence she probably made the threats herself! And I think BuzzFeed and The Verge are all pulling out of South by Southwest now? Because of this?! Yeah This is unbelievable!! I think it's very smart...I mean I Well yeah if you want to save money It's very smart No no if I didn't know better I'd say that this is a promotional stunt

1:49:53 This is to get people to buy tickets. To South by Southwest? Of course they're going to reinstate this, watch... I bet you they don't Oh i betcha they do Okay a dollar 50 cents Well your goin' big! Well hey man... You're already down $1 but 50 cents was fine. We don't encourage gambling Right okay let's see Things are bad in the Euro land The migrant crisis continues. They had a meeting on Sunday, couple more meetings and of course Slovenia is now one of the countries that really all they can do is shuttle people right through and hand them off at the other border which I believe this Hungary and... No no, Slovenia's up against Hungary. I think it said they take us to Austria or something Let's go look at the map! Yeah good idea hold on I don't want to sound stupid Slovenia

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European Migrant Crisis, Slovenia Warns of EU Collapse

Slovenia's premier warns that the European Union faces collapse if a common solution to the migrant crisis is not found, as thousands of refugees continue to pour across borders. The hosts describe the influx as a "horde" and note that German public opinion is turning sharply against Angela Merkel's open-door policy.

slovenia· european union· migrant crisis· hungary· croatia· angela merkel

1:50:51 It might be in this report actually. Hungary's blocked off anyway, they don't drop them off there? Is it sending them off to Austria I think you may be right. That would be north Yeah north to Austria Okay well here is the report but in particular I want you listen to the... what was that? Maybe the president of Slovenia. As migrants continue to pour across the border from Serbia into Croatia and many more waiting in the freezing cold, to be registered in Slovenia, The European Union is searching for answers As European leaders bicker over who is to blame for the crisis, Slovenia's premier warned on Sunday at an emergency mini-summit in Brussels that the EU itself faces collapse if the bloc can't agree on a plan to confront the influx of refugees. This guy is terrible! The Europe is at stake now and if we don't do all we can together to find a common solution to deliver it I mean then this is the beginning of the end of the EU

1:51:54 Maybe I can do this guy's voice if we don't find something for the migrants, a crisis. This is the beginning of the end for the EU project." Yeah i wanted to find that clip it's a good clip yeah that's he that's one of the leaders calling saying hey we're gonna melt down! Yeah they are you know when Victoria Nuland said F the EU she meant it She met we got I don't understand why they don't take that more seriously The EU should have been up in arms about the comment it went everywhere They all heard it and they should be up and arms well because they should be up in arms about Syria They shouldn't be up in arms about everything. We're doing its astonishing. Well, I think wimps day Yeah, I think the reason why they weren't up but it was obfuscated It was completely covered up pushed away that what Victoria Nuland said with Ukraine? And it's because they

1:52:53 You know, they wanted to have the transition in place because that's their pipeline. All their gas is coming through Ukraine and they were all for it like oh yeah we'll have a single... Remember that? A single buying market everything will be fantastic and it'll be great and Putin won't be such a bully and you know then his guy is in there but yeah they all knew that they would go into a huge transition. We put our chosen people in. In fact, Newland called the shot she said who is they want to put in and he got in. She yats, she's like we'll yats it and we'll send this guy out and then when they say hey you know what about the EU? Then this is not their plan then she said fuck the EU!

1:53:44 Now, a couple of things come to mind. One why wasn't she fired for doing that getting caught saying that? Of course this is the Russians who made this interceptor you know it was yeah they got there's they get their people everywhere like we do and so they pulled it out and said look at us play this and see what happens The Russian must have been beside themselves when nothing happened! It was like, here's a woman who calls the shots says what's going on tells everyone what they're gonna do. Who they're gonna put in power in this whole scammish Ukraine thing the Russians say to themselves Oh let's run this clip and that'll put a stop to it No! It didn't change anything. It was like nothing happened And you remember there was a phone call

1:54:25 with the no-neck monster, uh... The Baron High Priestess of Foreign Affairs Ashton. No, the Chinless Wonder Yeah maybe I have this. Unserious aside, in fact... Ah, it's a shitty recording. I'll put it on the show notes where they talk about snipers on the roof She says oh goodness! Oh really? I didn't know that You know, the snipers that killed the police. Yeah? Shot them straight through their body armor. Oh man... People of the Eurolands people of EU you're being screwed and I'm not saying that we're not doing it but this is World War III and it's not anything you thought it would be like It's economic and disastrous The German people are now turning They're turning on Merkel

1:55:10 Whereas, at first it was 60% were all for and now 60% are against. It's way too many. Way too many! Yeah, it is a horde. Like an invasion. You have no idea what it looks like. Every time I watch the news especially when I watch alternative news out of China or Europe where you get to see these pictures...it's a stream to the horizon It's tens of thousands. It's a 10 person wide stream from the horizon you could look out and they just go as far as the eye can see, and they're moving at about two or three miles per hour like a bunch of army ants in Africa. And people are pushing other people in wheelchairs through mud and snow... Yeah it's unbelievable!

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Nigel Farage on the Brezhnev Doctrine, Brexit Prospects

Nigel Farage delivers a speech in the European Parliament comparing the EU's treatment of member states like Greece and Portugal to the Soviet Union's Brezhnev Doctrine. Farage argues that national democracy is being crushed by an authoritarian EU, positioning the upcoming British referendum (Brexit) as a "golden opportunity" to restore parliamentary sovereignty.

nigel farage· brexit· brezhnev doctrine· portugal· greece· democracy

1:55:55 We downplay it here as much as yeah, I don't I'm shocked. No we don't on this show I'm saying we downplaying the United States said the news guys are all about to meet carcinogens And then this week by there was the worst for all running the same news stories It was that cars in the Jans it was the tires There's a tire story that everybody had and the winter came early in Europe ah I have Nigel Farage doing about three minutes on this in the EU Starfleet command. Okay, yeah he is good and for those of you playing along at home you might want to take a look at the Brezhnev doctrine to enjoy Mr. Farage's speech to its max. This migrant crisis begins to overwhelm the European Union and yes it is an existential crisis perhaps we should ask

1:56:44 ask ourselves what really is the true nature of this project because I've heard a lot today about rights. Well, what about democratic rights? Because i think what we're seeing is an increasingly authoritarian European Union that crushes democratic rights and then actually crows about it every single time there's a crisis its national democracy that loses back in 2011. The Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi, sounding Eurosceptic removed and replaced by a puppet prime minister we saw exactly the same thing happen in Greece in 2011 Mr Papandreou threatened a referendum on Euro membership there was a coup against him he was replaced by a puppet In this migrant crisis we've seen four countries

1:57:31 led, I guess by the strongest Hungary making it clear they want no part of EU migrant quotas only to find themselves crushed through EU trickery and made to accept the very thing that they'd said no too. And i never forget seeing the Greek Prime Minister Mississippa sitting just over there having won a general election and then come to this house to be told the manifesto was unacceptable and it must be ditched But I think all of this has reached a new low this week with Portugal. Virtually unremarked upon by the media and yet for those that don't know there is now following the general election, a left wing majority with a socialist plan for Portugal and yet the President of Portugal Mr Silva is refusing them office

1:58:20 on the grounds that they represent anti-European forces and is allowing the minority conservative pro EU prime minister to stay in place. Shut up, Slade! This is the modern day implementation of the Brezhnev Doctrine Now... That was uh.... Is that about the satellite states of Russia? Yeah, it was pretty much... Right. The Soviet Union not this year. So you knew it was part of what it was Russia as the key player had all these satellite states around it and the idea was to do the same thing just kind of like what we're trying to do with Ukraine but instead they put their guys in so everybody their bosses are all into this kind of run by the Russians and this is the idea and Portugal they want to run by the EU

1:59:08 AKA, whatever you want to call them Russians of Europe. And so they can't...you can have elections. Here's the main statement from the doctrine when forces that are hostile to socialism try to turn the development of some socialist country towards capitalism it becomes not only a problem of the country concern but a common problem and concern of all socialist countries yeah I guess so. Right, it's kind of the opposite. Want to hear more? We'll finish this up in another minute. Yeah, of course you gotta... Farage is one of the guys that we listen to. Although every- In the UK! You walk around and it's like he's racist, he's a horrible guy, terrible. No they've done a good job of demonizing him. This is exactly what happened to states living inside the USSR What has been made clear here with Greece and indeed with Portugal Is that a country only has democratic rights

2:00:01 if it's in favour of the project. If not, those rights are taken away and perhaps none of this should surprise us as Mr Juncker has told us before there can be no democratic choice against the European treaties and the German finance minister, Mr Schäuble has said elections change nothing There are rules I think for anyone that believes in democracy Portugal should be the final straw. It should be the warning that this project, to protect itself and all its failings will destroy the individual rights of people and of nations My country has always believed in parliamentary democracy so strongly that twice in my last century it risked everything to fight for parliamentary democracy not just for Britain but for the rest of Europe

2:00:53 And I actually believe that for all of us that believe in democracy and want to see it re-implemented, the British referendum offers a golden opportunity. Well, so goodbye. I'd say Brexit is gonna happen. I'm now doubting it really? I'm a big Brexit fan. I think it's fantastic idea and it will change things but the way they do this and there's thing with Portugal uh...and the propaganda in The UK that you mentioned just a second ago about demonizing and making this guy look like an a-hole Yeah, when he's the most he's very erudite interesting especially at the in the EU part of it. In the EU context for sure And they will pull out all his stops the media will do its thing And scare everybody this is the same thing This is how they scared... once they scared the Scots into not voting for independence

2:01:51 with fear-mongering, scaring this poor... The Scots wanted this and wanted it. And they've been getting closer to it but now they're gonna squash it for good They're pretty good at this and I think they're going to be able to keep from the Brexit However, just the fact that they never entered the monetary unit That helps Was always a hedge to get out It's hard for me to imagine with the Brits I know not wanting to leave. It will be at the very last minute, it'll be a really good campaign that'll keep them in the EU and you want put another 50 cents down?

2:02:30 Yeah, I'll put 50 cents down. And then... I'm all for it by the way! I am a big fan of the Brexit and think it should happen but I think the media and government powers is already gone beyond all recognition into a state. If the Brexit doesn't happen now after the migrant crisis etc I know this is the best time. Yeah, then... You can't do it during this moment in history where there's these hordes invading Europe from Syria and the Middle East. Oh, from Somalia, Sudan, from all over the place! Yeah, and we heard that interview, we had a clip of it, people are coming from Afghanistan, they're from everywhere. It was like free food you know? Let's go. It's like a bunch of journalists going for a buffet. It is literally, literally free food

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The View on Virginity, Religious Values vs Hollywood

The hosts critique a segment from "The View" where the panelists discuss adults in their 30s and 40s who remain virgins for religious reasons. They highlight the inconsistency of the hosts, who champion "bodily autonomy" regarding abortion but mock individuals who choose to abstain from sex to honor their faith.

the view· whoopi goldberg· virginity· religion· sexual politics

2:03:17 And money. And a better life! Yeah, if you could beat the debtor die in the process of getting there but this is...you're right if this doesn't trigger the Brexit nothing will because nothing will be so obvious and then they'll lock down the public and they're already doing that Great Britain's a mess I wanted to place them before we go into our break here. It seems recently, we've received donation letters and other notes of people saying my wife doesn't listen and I can't get her to listen. And I thought maybe if we play a little clip and show the inconsistency of something maybe you could use that say these guys they do interesting stuff might be interested in it. And I am of the belief that The View is a program that a lot of women in America watch and they probably get a lot of their information from that program

2:04:03 Mainly because they feel it's a diverse group. You know, that it was very diverse Yeah, the first group of Hollywood liberals Well, there's always one one girl in right winger that they all jump on now these women speak often about Certainly about abortion whoopie Goldberg you know we've heard what she says? This is a woman's choice and woman's choice It's her body a woman's choice its her body Oh a woman's body as her choice but When it comes to something else, then they're just... this is insane. Oh no! I don't understand why you don't do this with your body? A lot more virgins out there than people realize. Yes. I have a lot of girlfriends and know of guys that are in their 30's that still have their virginity. I think um.. It's for me and my- Guys in their 40's?! Yeah. Yes. Girl hook it up! I'd be the best thing ever happened

2:04:59 It's not a surprise to me, but that is also the types of friendships and groups of people or people within the church community. That it is very familiar so its not shocking to me I would have posted that on Twitter, but I think she was honoring her mother and father of wanting to keep that promise to them as she goes onto her husband. But 30s and 40's? That is a little bit much. You need to be... you need to have sex! You need to have sex! Who is anyone to say this really about a relationship between them and wanting to honor God Of course, it's really the God thing that bothers him the most. But how can they say oh this is crazy you have to have had sex by 30 This is not okay You're not a real woman This is wrong It's wrong

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Knighting Ceremony, Eric Van Marder and No Agenda Donations

The hosts conduct an extensive donation segment for the eighth anniversary, reading names of "well-wishers" who donated $88.88. They perform a formal knighting ceremony for Eric Van Marder, who contributed over $1,000, granting him a seat at the No Agenda Round Table.

knighting· eric van marder· donations· 88.88· round table· producers

2:05:45 Well, I was hoping you'd come up with the contrast between you can't let the government do this and you can't let the government do that. I own my body and forced vaccinations. I'll work on that one for you. We do have a few people to thank for our show 769. Our eighth anniversary everybody! It is eight years! Eighth year, eighth anniversary 88888 ball So some one of our producers when we came up with the 8-ball sent us notices you know what you could have done I'm sorry i'm so late with this but it could have been a crate of eights Could've been yeah Yeah well I told him to come up with something for

2:06:39 9999 999 David Van Sunder want to thank him from Pacific Grove, California came with $100 and 88 cents And he said even the seem like eighty eight dot eighty. It was enough so I brought it up to a hundred nice Thank you. Thank You Shane Brady 89 48 have from parts unknown and now we have the list of they well wishers for the anniversary of 88 dot 88 now do we have separate credits or what are we doing with these? We're gonna read their names Okay That's what we do sir our cane is a mirror read the all 8880 as we get a bunch of them Starting with sore arcane code there looks like some maybe alphabetical With the 8888 from Colombiana, Alabama And for I XT 7 3s kilo Fox 5 sugar Lima November ditto

2:07:35 David Oliver in Calistoga, California. There's a geyser up there which is by the way...there's a geyser in Calistoga, California and I've seen it It's a geyser that goes off but there's a big valve that they turn Oh! We got enough people here? Okay He says not to be dramatic but this program has changed my life A lot of people feel that way. Matt Camarer, we've always had trouble with this name he's come in once while from Denver Sir Brad Doherty from Brooklyn New York is here

2:08:13 Matthew Hertet in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania. Brian Johnson in Bowling Green, Ohio. Roy Pingell in Woodhaven, New York. Lucas Zua in Munich, Deutschland...Munichin. Danny Baker of Morristown, Tennessee. Sir Patrick Coble, a dude named Ben. Fellow named Ben. Fairview, Tennessee. Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia. Finally some Virginians. Julian Swan in Atlanta Georgia. PMK Enterprises in Medford Oregon. Sir Craig Porter and Council Bluffs Iowa. Alan Fleetwood in Cottage Grove Oregon. Sir Borislav Marinov in Trabuco Canyon California. Baroness Monica Lansing... Hello Monica! In Alberta Calgary, Drayton Valley to be exact

2:09:08 Andy Kluber in Terre Haute, Indiana. Sir Mike Westfield Wakefield I'm sorry in Wakefield Massachusetts. Sir Mike of Wakefield yes of Wakefield of course Anthony Garlinger in Downers Grove. There's another cow down in the grove, Illinois! There is a lot of them in that area. Let's name a town after it. Gilbert Fragae in Los Angeles California Keith Hausner in Corona California nearby Jim Burlingame in Bergen New York Horse presence Nice

2:09:47 The horse was ordered some prison California and Nico de Han parts unknown sir Nico sir, sir Nico our buddies in Florida Sorry he's our resident black belt Trevor a Baxter in Aurora Indiana Willie unison in gravrava Grava in Netherlands 8888 William Hyatt in Fayetteville Arkansas sir Nico de Hans shows up here again This time he's in Bel Air Bluffs, Florida. That's where is exactly he's the martial arts night there you go Yes, Sir Nico Marshall Arts Knight. Gerald Fridlansky in Montreal Quebec. Revelations Radio News in Edmonds Washington. Scuba Vision Productions in Burlington Vermont. We got a number of well-wishers. Michael Dougherty in Chicago Illinois. Lex

2:10:39 Lex from Brooklyn Eric von Marder in Van Nuys cabin that was it. That's our group Okay, so about 20 people all well wishes want to thank them all for the 8888 we go down to Eric Von Marder 8008 Which he decided was a cuter number to play and he becomes a knight today Becomes a night and that is also a processor chip And you wants to be a cool Cool chip to have and he wants three predates the 8080 He wants crickets and cream added to the The list of good... I like it. Can we reject some of these? No, no, of course not! Not for the roundtable, not for the nights are you insane?! Alright Sergio, Yoho the Swazzle Knight in Surfside Beach South Carolina 69-69 Bruce D Hall in Encino California 66-66 Fleet Larson in Bettendorf Iowa 5510 Dennis Goad Hold on this is a double douchebag callout? Oh this is a double douche bag call out

2:11:37 Yeah, he sent an email and for douchebag call-outs. I have to go get it do I have a copy you might have a copy would use Either from Larson or Goad They have a bunch of friends of theirs to call out as douchebags. We'd like to make history today by doing what we think is the first coordinated douchebag callout. We've both been listening to the show for a few years now and discuss it often, we hit someone in the mouth about a year and half ago it took him a few months to listen regularly but he's been hooked for months and never misses a show! It's great that we have another NA Show companion here in The Quad Cities but were both starting to feel dirty hanging around his freeloading douche bag all the time

2:12:17 Will you please call Shannon Phillips as a douchebag twice once from each of us? Your loyal producers Fleet Larson and Denny Goat. Nice boys. Very strange Josh McDonald, Double Nickels on the Dime, Parts Unknown. Stephen Hutto in Denver Colorado 5510 Sir Kevin Payne in Chantilly Virginia 5432 Chris Palmiter in Hillsboro Oregon 5333 Brian Kaufman 5050 in Phoenix Arizona and the following people are all $50 donors this wraps it up

2:12:54 David Durrell in Malta, New York. Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas. Peter Totez... Sir Peter Totez? Sir Peter Totez I think is in the UK somewhere if I'm not mistaken. Gerald Inabonet in Union South Carolina. Shadrich and... and fifty dollars a bendigo brian ever brin brin not brian brin brin evans in burwick victoria australia day donald napier in chicago and that concludes our group of uh well wishers and celebrate celebrities celebrities celebrity we have a make good or actually with something we forgot to read this is from dame astrid the duchess of japan japan oh this is based on the

2:13:45 What did Sir Mark Ed, what did he become now? Duke. He became a duke! He became the Duke of Japan Many congratulations only truth and quality like The No Agenda Show can stand the test of time The figure eight is... And she's from Japan Dame Astrid The figure eight is an endless loop and therefore stands for into eternity So yes no agenda forever Go podcasting! Drop the mic grab the popcorn With the state secrecy law, the security bill now implemented in Japan, the quote my number social security and tax number system soon to follow. And that Japan's education ministry asking universities to act social science and humanities in favor of more practical vocational education so that young slaves can better serve their country I cant help being reminded it cant happen here by Sinclair Lewis

2:14:36 Yes, good book. Yes classic and no agenda book please keep it coming we desperately need you heck I might even overcome my analog self one day and get a ham license i already caught myself oogling at Airstreams It is with enormous pleasure that Klein Dytham architecture contributes to No Agenda And this should bring Sir Mark Baron of Tokyo up to be the Duke Duke of Tokyo so that is Duke of Japan Duke of Japan I'm sorry We cleared it up later Cleared it up taken care of thank you very much Dame Astrid and uh sir mark And thank you everybody who has helped us throughout the years in many different forms. It's highly appreciated, even for today show a lot of people coming in with amounts under the $50 level for reasons of anonymity or subscriptions and even some... Did we get some eights down at the bottom there? Just some eight dollars I'm sure we did. Oh yeah! A lot of 8888 and 808 and stuff like that. Super nice it's really appreciated. It's your show

2:15:30 And you will have another one of these shows coming up on Sunday. Okay, we have one nighting today.

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CHAPTER 38 / 53 Discussion

Ash Carter on Combat vs Advice Missions, Iraq and Syria

Defense Secretary Ash Carter struggles to distinguish between "combat roles" and "advice and assist missions" during congressional testimony. Despite claims of no combat troops on the ground, Carter admits that U.S. forces are engaging in raids and "prosecuting the campaign" in ways that clearly involve active combat.

ash carter· pentagon· combat troops· iraq· syria· advice and assist

2:16:58 Long-haired heavy metal guys in scotch long hits and bourbon and mutton and mead you hear my voice is going now It is did you get through the crickets and goon? We're gonna scream. Yeah crickets and cream of course yeah, so not good No crickets and cream That was a minimum I had day If you want to talk about this thing you know Ashton Carter was talking a lot on the... Troopy Dog. Yeah, Troopy Dog. Well this guy there's no doubt about it we're going to war and we're putting troops in Iraq We're putting troops everywhere That's funny you bring this up because there was one of the hearings I didn't clip it See? I watched all these hearings so I might have it what your talking about It's one of the four star guys yeah that was uh I think its head of the Marine Corps Dundun uh whats his name? Yeah Dun-Duh-Dun-Duh Dodo Dundon Dodo Dundon DuBrain yeah that guy Head of the Marine Corp

2:17:54 And he's all in on this. Let's bring some... We gotta put the troops to the ground and let him get killed who gives a crap." Well, it's a little different. Ash Carter—we've always laughed because we have the contacts as a part of the No Agenda Intelligence Network, when they talk about advisors. Yes we have advisors in on the ground because just- they're not really fighting it's just advisers. Where is my white screen? So Ash Carter in one single sentence like in 40 seconds will blow the lid on what these advisers are really doing so could you please explain how more raids

2:18:33 Fits with no combat troops. It doesn't represent us assuming a Combat role it represents a continuation of our advice and assist mission I said right from advise and assist mission okay, so we say no combat role do he's added a word yeah But wait the beginning David and we mean this when we find opportunities to do things that will effectively prosecute the campaign, we're gonna do that. Could you provide us some of that detail? I can't- You seem very impressed by what had happened Well yeah I am and I tell ya Mick That's on the basis of the reports i've gotten so I want to be careful about that because this is combat things are complicated but Wait a minute wait a minute They're in an advise & assist role yet he can get any information because they're in combat Yeah it's what he said

CHAPTER 39 / 53 Discussion

Tim Kaine Questions War Authorization, ISIS Metastasis

Senator Tim Kaine grills Ash Carter on the legal justification for ongoing military operations in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, and Cameroon. Kaine argues that the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) is being stretched beyond its original intent to cover groups like Boko Haram that did not exist during the 9/11 attacks.

tim kaine· ash carter· isis· boko haram· war powers· 2001 aumf

2:19:28 Yeah. Well, so something is wrong! Something's amiss... Uh, you- I- So it was actually Tim Kaine who's a Democrat. I like it when a Democrat is, you know, is fun to listen too for once And he was really grilling Ashton Carter, who you know it's so obvious why this guy is in here. And it kind of all fits into the president first vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act and we don't know exactly what has happened but somehow we had the budget talks And it seems like money from Social Security, and I think it's about 80 billion. This is a number 60 or 80 billion that have been hearing. I think that somehow comes around and that will now fill up the so-called sequester gap in the NDAA. Still money from the old folks? That's right! The stealing money... Hey AARP is sending me notes already

2:20:22 What are they telling you that they're taking my money join? They say join up your old. No, they're not gonna help You they say join up your old what is it American Association of retired people yeah Yeah come back to me in 30 years and I'll never be able to retire So they're trying to justify, I guess how we can now put more troops back in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria. And Tim Kaine is working with Ash Carter here too although he...I like this guy because he sets him up and then comes around with something that you and I will agree with so first he needs a little background He's teeing up this general about

2:21:04 ISIL. Currently, I think i'm right on this we are engaged in activities against ISIL military activities in Iraq Syria Afghanistan Yemen Libya and then when we were on a during that week of congressional recess the president sent to Congress a war powers letter indicating the detachment if I think 300 American troops to Cameroon to protect the pipeline to assist in activities against Boko Haram, which has pledged allegiance to ISIL. Have I omitted any countries where there is currently activity that is either ISIL activity or groups that have pledged allegiance? We're watching ISIL all over the world Senator as you know it has aspirations and tries to metastasize uses the web. Oh they use the web! Listen to them pronounce be the Web

2:21:57 uses the web. Web, the web, the web we have had and Director Comey's made this very clear Americans who have self-radicalized. Actually, that's going to be my next question... And so this is a phenomenon that is around the world we're watching it around the world not just ourselves but in law enforcement and intelligence circles It's one of the reasons why ISIL needs to be defeated In terms of kind of kinetic activities by the military... Kinetic? That means killing people... ...military though am I right that currently its Iraq Syria Afghanistan Yemen Libya and then the deployment troops to Cameroon

2:22:37 It depends on what you mean by that. You want to go ahead, Joe? Senator... Joe Dunbar I think that's the general. Hey Joe go ahead Joe We don't currently have operations ongoing in Yemen direct operations against ISIL we don't have operations against Libya against ISIL and our support in Cameroon is ISRC No operations! What?! Support of operations against Boko Haram you But, Secretary Carter... We can get you what we're doing in each country. Now we have an oh this is Ash Carter now talking about ISIS and about a new term that we need to be aware of maybe it's not that new but I haven't heard it that often which is boots on the ground. And then we need a new term for that. Secretary Carter, you indicate were watching ISIL in other countries Is it fair to assume based on your joint professional judgment

2:23:36 ISIL continues to mutate and find adherence in other countries, and we may well have to contemplate DOD activity against ISIL and nations other than those that are active. It could come to that, and that's why I think we need to kill the source of it which is in Syria and Iraq. Okay so final clip here there was another one but too long Tim Kaine wraps this up, so he's gotten all this information about all these ISIL-ISIS DOD actions. War! We're at war everywhere we're killing brown people in sandy areas mainly and he wraps it up with a way that I like The administration's position about the authority to wage this war is based upon an authorization that was passed on September 18 2001 before many of us were here

2:24:28 that specifically says the president is authorized to use force against those who planned, authorized committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11 2001 and I would just renew my observation that i think it would have been far beyond the contemplation of the members of Congress who voted on that at the time. And it's certainly beyond the contemplation of those of us who did not vote on that at the time, that those words would be applying 15 years later to an effort in the countries I just mentioned and may mutate to other countries That is by the admission of our witnesses today likely to take a good deal

2:25:04 more i think it's very much time that congress uh... revisit the question of this authorization and tried underlying legal justification for the ongoing military action with a mystery traffic exactly Yeah, yeah. They'll be marginalized kicked off a committee probably but he's right this was authorized for anyone who was a part of the September 11th 2001 sure well you know they're part that's fighting Boko Haram who have pledged allegiance to ISIS which is or Al Qaeda which is a splinter of al-qaeda that's unbelievable stop it people stop it oh

CHAPTER 40 / 53 Discussion

NCIS Technical Gaffes, Al-Shabaab and Dubai Errors

The hosts point out significant factual errors in a recent episode of the TV show NCIS. The show depicted a terror attack by Al-Shabaab at a hotel in Dubai, but the hosts note that the specific hotel is actually in Bahrain and Al-Shabaab is a Somali-based group that does not operate in the UAE.

ncis· television· al-shabaab· dubai· uae· technical errors

2:25:48 There was the thing, a clip you didn't get which I wish I had gotten. Where's where they going? There was a Carter...I gotta go back and think I still find this clip. Carter goes on and he says well we'd like to cooperate with anybody who wants to help us the Swiss, the French, the Germans anybody who wants to help us in this fight against these horrible people We're all in on And then like after couple more questions somebody says what about Russia are you gonna do it? Oh! We don't want any help from them Right It's like, we don't want any help from the Russians. They're screwing things up whatever our scheme is The Russians aren't playing ball. Right? The only thing you need to know about those conversations is when they say terrorists that means the Fighters funded by the Department of Defense and by CIA two different groups That's what the terrorists are not ISIL And I think I did get that clip somewhere where hmm maybe Maybe this is it let me see

2:26:48 I'm the leading state sponsor of terrorism. No, that's not it It's a good one. Well, I have kind of an ask Adam clip for you Okay? Do you want me to play the jingle or... Yeah let's play the jingle okay Here we go, we're playing a jingle. All right John roll it out on me. Okay now I have a good...I'm very disappointed in NCIS so i think is the best show on television It's the best written show, its the best structured show, it has got the best characters and been on for almost 20 years

2:27:26 And because it's so they don't chimp, chimp. They don't cheap out on the writing there's no doubt about that paying people top dollar right but I'm very disappointed in the last episode and this is right after you told me you love that show! I know this was the irony because i said hey i'm going to watch this show Revenge and you said oh yeah it's great but beware... It's a soap opera that never ends which you're right Yes. Yeah, I do not recommend watching these are standalone shows there is a there's a long arc but it's not important on NCIS now so i'm listening to this clip I want you isn't ask him to find the two gaffes to huge blunders hold on to let me get stupid things that are said in this very short clip yeah and I'm sure you can identify them

2:28:12 Okay, I got my pen. I have my pad yeah two things I have to say just two things all right here We go any ball crap. Yeah, I'll be quiet now that and I need I need total sockets okay? Terror attack in Dubai to bomb set an aid inside the Monroe Hotel Al Shabaab claimed responsibility how many people inside number 500 There's chatter why didn't they change the venue? Hey, and I say wait. I didn't hear that last little hold on a second you said yeah There's chatter that there is everybody to change the venue of change your venues always uses it There's chatter they wanted to change the venue change the venue And I say okay two gasps. I don't think that hotel is in the downtown district

2:29:09 Is that Gaff-Los? But no cigar. The hotel is not even in that country! Okay, so... The hotel is in the UAE So I got that one In Bahrain We'll give you a ding on that one I got a ding Now the second thing... You've got the wrong country Hold on, I think I should listen to it again One more time Joining us we have breaking news out of Dubai Early this morning in the downtown business district to explosive device terror attack in Dubai two bombs sentenated inside the Monroe Hotel Al Shabaab claimed responsibility. How many people inside number 500? There's chatter. Why didn't they change the venue? Wait a minute NSA wait a minute al-shabaab

2:29:52 They're not in... where's Al-Shabaab? Somalia! Yeah, see I knew that was wrong. And they never got any further than Kenya there are an African operation they were not allowed to go up to Dubai is it by the way nobody is and blow up a hotel this is bullcrap. That is pretty sad actually I'm gonna take a ding for that though I think i got it. It wasn't that hard, there was only two items in the group. NSA was mentioned but I don't know what that's go to do with anything. Her boyfriend works for the NSA and she is worried sick he was killed in the thing but he wasn't. Lame. Fascinating! Bad bad bad NCIS. You know, I wanted to tell you... actually for everyone to know, I called John yesterday

CHAPTER 41 / 53 Discussion

No Agenda Chicken Recipe, Brussels Sprouts Technique

Adam Curry shares his experience making "No Agenda Chicken," a signature dish of the show's community. He describes a specific technique for preparing Brussels sprouts by chopping them into thirds and discarding the vine end to ensure they cook properly alongside the chicken in a single pan.

no agenda chicken· recipe· brussels sprouts· cooking· chicken council

2:30:47 And after that I thought, wow man. I'm so stupid again such great material that I don't get don't capture for the show because i was making no agenda chicken which I'd forgotten was No Agenda Chicken I just remember it as the chicken with all the stuff underneath it. It was no agenda chicken! Yeah, and then you go ah yes no agenda chicken... Oh well I could have looked it up online but what was the timing and what was the oven setting? And then use and you said that the Brussels sprouts wouldn't work. I want you to know that I made the brussels sprouts work okay and I did it by chopping them in three bits discarding the bit that is nearest to the vine and then just taking those two halves of 2 thirds

2:31:28 and putting those in, it was perfect. It really works. If Google no agenda chicken this is a dish you can make. One of the official dishes of the show. It's an easy way to make a meal for up to five people if you have a big enough thing but three or four are easy without having to do anything more than one One device you have to one pan and you put everything in there, and it cooks It's fine, and it won't give you cancer unlike red. No, it's chicken Yes chicken it also been the chicken council behind all this bullcrap eat more chicken Yeah, but she gets tired by the way it gets old oh no that what is that? That's the? That's the could've been Chick-fil-a behind fillet right alright

CHAPTER 42 / 53 Discussion

Peter Gøtzsche on Big Pharma Corruption, Prescription Drug Deaths

Dr. Peter Gøtzsche, director of the Nordic Cochrane Center, claims that prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the U.S. and Europe. He compares the pharmaceutical industry to the mafia, alleging widespread corruption of doctors and health ministers to promote unnecessary and dangerous medications.

peter gøtzsche· denmark· big pharma· prescription drugs· corruption· organized crime

2:33:08 Denmark is so great. Everybody's happy, everybody's jacked up, they got free everything, free healthcare, free education... And cute blondes! It's the happiest place on earth. It is. And Bernie Sanders wants us to be like Denmark Now what we did find out is that there's part of being the happiest country on earth with free health care free schooling and free Swimming pools. I don't know what a freeze all great lines for three beautiful blondes They also write a lot of prescriptions for drugs You know happy pill drugs the kind of stuff that have the disclaimers The stuff that we joke about the SSRIs and this doctor Peter Gooch

2:33:55 who was ahead of, well he actually introduced himself in this clip. Comes out and says something about the pharmaceutical industry and the medical industry, the doctors in the happiest place on earth! My name is Peter Gertje I'm director of the Nordic Cochrane Center in Copenhagen and professor of research design and analysis at the University of Copenhagen Two years ago I found out that our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer. Our drugs kill around 200,000 people in America every year and half of these people die while they do what their doctors told them so they died because of side effects The other half died because of errors

2:34:46 And it's often the doctors that make the errors because any drug may come with 20, 30 or 40 warnings, contraindications, precautions and so on. No doctor in the world knows about all this So they give patients drugs that they should not have given them That interact dangerously with other drugs or food items and then the patients die – that is the other half So, the other thing I found out two years ago was that much of what the drug industry does fulfills the criteria for organized crime in US law. And they behave in many ways like the mafia does They corrupt everyone they can corrupt They have bought every type of person even including ministers of health in some countries There is a huge amount of corruption

2:35:41 In my country, for example Denmark we are regarded as having very little corruption but yet we have thousands of doctors on industry payroll although we are just 20.000 doctors so this is an effective kind of corruption the drug industry buys the professors first then chiefs of department then other chief physicians and so on they don't buy junior doctor So when several thousands are on industry payroll, it's really really bad. And that is why I wrote my book Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare. I hope to convince patients not to take so many drugs because so many die.

2:36:28 from the drugs they take. Yeah, you better not be hopping in any hot tubs my friend. I'd be careful. He should be very careful. There's probably three four or five maybe six months ago there was some one of these...I played a clip with a guy but we didn't have the visual he had some smaller drug company looking to sell this sort of crap and he looked like a mobster! I mean he looked like a gangster look at that look yeah we're gonna do this raise the price yeah it is great You do that very well. I think we need to talk briefly about China... Before we do that, I did have one thing i wanted just at least mention in passing before we get too far along because we talked about on the last show

CHAPTER 43 / 53 Discussion

Hurricane Patricia Aftermath, Media Hype vs Reality

The hosts review the aftermath of Hurricane Patricia, which was hyped as the strongest storm in history but caused minimal damage upon landfall. They criticize the media for failing to acknowledge the "phony" nature of the hype, instead pivoting to cover flooding in the southern U.S. as a continuation of the storm's threat.

hurricane patricia· mexico· texas· weather hype· nbc news· climate change

2:37:15 And I wanted to see what happened because we talked about in the last show this stupid 200 mile an hour hurricane, which is now the fastest on record and they can...the warmest. We'll be able to use this as a data point. We're all gonna die! We don't need to model anymore. We're seeing it happen right now before our very eyes. There it was at 200 miles per hour that comes in 35 miles an hour doesn't do anything craps out So I wouldn't want it, because this happened over the weekend. And I wondered what were the news guys going to do about it? And how are they gonna deal with it? Were they gonna bring up... It was obvious why we told us this horrible thing and nothing happened and didn't really even knock over that many trees. There's even a clip of some guy wandering around because they sent him there on NBC or whatever. He had come up with a report. Oh look at him throwing the roof off this place!

2:38:08 One crummy roof. It was a tin roof, it was like a corrugated roof over a chicken coop and he's showing how it got blown away." Okay so here are the kind of things that we ended up with... Now this is NBC and Patricia, here's how they decided to reference it. Every network did this. Nobody talked about what a phony hurricane this was. Millions of Americans across several states in the South and south-central US are dealing with a punishing mix of torrential rain, flooding and the threat of tornadoes part of one two punch that began as a storm that lasted for days then the remnants of Hurricane Patricia on top of it with no break in between NBC's Janet Chamleon is in the Storm Zone tonight

2:38:55 That's how they did it. Yeah, that's how you get away with it! People... I was disgusted by them. Ted Koppel is right. The internet IS a weapon of mass destruction. It's going to the elites and the media are using it to make us eat ourselves after the bugs. I don't know what it is but it's crazy And now this China thing, which there's some legitimate cause for concern. Now you're talking about the islands? The islands yes. Yes. That was a quick little clip with the backgrounder. China was building its new airbase here on a reef called Fiery Cross by April this year This is what it looked like filmed from a US Navy aircraft

CHAPTER 44 / 53 Discussion

South China Sea Tensions, US Navy Freedom of Navigation

The U.S. Navy sailed a guided missile destroyer within 12 miles of artificial islands built by China in the South China Sea to challenge Beijing's territorial claims. China expressed "furious" unofficial responses, while the hosts discuss the strategic importance of the shipping lanes and the growing Chinese naval presence.

south china sea· us navy· china· fiery cross reef· freedom of navigation· bbc

2:39:41 China claims these new artificial islands are its sovereign territory. The US strongly disagrees, and so today the US Navy sailed this guided missile destroyer right in to those contested waters It was a very deliberate act, one that provoked this furious if unofficial response from Beijing. American military vessels sailing in China's territorial waters he says at China's front door the whole of China is enraged and the entire country is calling for a strike back This is BBC I'm under the impression, the distinct impression that they never got within 12 miles of the islands

2:40:24 I don't think they did. They stayed away, they stayed 12 miles away and China just bent out of shape that they were cruising around But there...I think the Chinese don't belong there this is right in the middle of the opening of the Straits of Malacca. Well there's that element You can have the Chinese sitting as a... And the oil in the area Yes but I think that this is strategic on their part and you know the Chinese Navy is growing they're building it our Navy is decrepit Our Navy is not even borderline decrepit when you compare it to the Chinese Navy and that crappy one aircraft carrier they bought from France on surplus, with a big loop at the end. Surplus store. Surplus piece of crap! Most modern Navy gear is like frightening

2:41:15 It's not decrepit. That is a myth that I'm in with you, but I am also in with these Chinese need to get out of there. That is one of the busiest shipping lanes and they're going to be right in the middle of it? That's not okay on an international scale. Well, it'll be a fuss made over at DestroSure. They will have to relent. They will have to go away This is what Carrie's been talking about with the 12 miles a law of the sea It's all about this you remember CNN flew over and there was like American Yankee. You go home to that Remember we had that clip it's a good one I probably have it What was it, uh? It was funny. What do you think I would have called that oh

2:42:08 Uh, Threat? I don't know. You have your own naming convention so... I probably would've had like CNN doing something. CNN, Threat, China... I don't think i can find it that fast. Anyway. Can be found. No, can't- But you guys think your imitation of it was just as good Here we go! I found it Oh my goodness here we go. Foreign military aircraft This is Chinese TV You are approaching our military alert zone American Yankee ball High above the South China Sea, the radio crackles with a stern warning. And this was May so that's how long we've been at this and that's the way we do them by the way nobody else does these sorts of references no because we have to low we have a long arc show if something screwy happens we keep tabs on it

CHAPTER 45 / 53 Discussion

Adam Curry's MacBook Storage Issues, SSD Upgrades

Adam Curry discusses running out of disk space on his production MacBook, which only has a 250GB SSD. He considers upgrading to a larger drive but expresses concern about the technical process of "ghosting" the drive and "stretching the partition" without disrupting the show's production schedule.

macbook· ssd· storage· technical support· disk space

2:43:04 Do you know that I actually ran out of disk space yesterday on the main production machine? Really, what is it an Apple right so would you have 200 megabytes or something like that. Did Apple put on 200 megabytes? It's 250 gigabytes Total which is not a small, but it's it's the it's a Mac book because I need to be it needs to be mobile Oh Wow So I'm gonna have to buy an external drive now Because um I was down to one gigabyte and they went in delete well Is that up? Is that an SSD that 250? It might be You don't need an external drive, just pull that baby out of there. Just ghost it out. Drop in a 500 or a terabyte SSD I think... Oh man that sounds really dangerous. Hold on let me see about this Mac it'll tell me what's in it won't it? More info better hmm It doesn't tell him what the hard drive is oh here we go Is that HDA? You should immediately come up with the following words you paid too much for this hard drive and this mac should say that hold on

2:44:12 That's ATA Hardware, it shouldn't have the that's a volumes here. We go no well This is crazy know someone in the chat room would tell you how to do it You have to push the cloverleaf sat down Oh here we go yeah SSD okay? It's a plus okay now big Capacity 209 oh let's see if I at 250 gigabytes that's what I sold ya Yeah, you can pull could drop a five Okay I'm gonna find someone to help me with a much this price fit very worried about doing that why Because you know it's like this if this system is down the show is now a couple of systems out there I can't think of the names them, but I use one of them. It's a you boot off of this drive and

2:45:04 And then it completely goes, it takes an exact copy of the old disk and moves it onto a file. And then when you put the new drive in there, you boot off that same sketchy product... You have to copy every sector over? Yeah, it has to be exactly copied and push it over to the 500 gig drive and make it a bootable exactly the same way it was. It'll look just like the 250, then you got to go in and stretch the partition afterwards after you booted it. Stretch the partition? Let me write that down. Maybe not even possible on the Mac to do what I described. I'm going to stretch the partition by one or two lids

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Steve Jobs Movie Failure, Doctors Without Borders Bombing

The hosts note the box office failure of the new Steve Jobs movie written by Aaron Sorkin. They also discuss the recent bombing of another Doctors Without Borders (MSF) hospital in Yemen, speculating on the Obama administration's tense relationship with the organization following the Ebola crisis.

steve jobs movie· aaron sorkin· doctors without borders· msf· yemen· ebola

2:45:46 Two lids. Which is, you know... You get a special discount on it. Alright we'll work on it. Oh speaking of which for the Hail Apple Steve Jobs movie like the bottom of the list in the box office no one's watching this movie Who wants to? It's a sorkin film! They're always horrible Yeah but that's what so funny is everyone oh the Steve Jobs movie all that tech horny Steve Jobs oh Steve Jobs oh it was so great done by Danny Boyle Danny Boyle he did train spotting and and then you know what it is likely this is sounds exactly like the chatter you've heard yes it was like seven million dollars but do you think I think it's great what do you think that I think it's great I liked by that back oh yeah all right the steeple hey Apple fantastic little apple hail apple yeah no it's very funny to listen to the reviews of that thing alright ya know them by the reviews it should be the number one movie um... and then I want to mention finally this new another doctors without borders uh... hospital was bombed

2:46:44 Oh, really? Yes. I think it was in Yemen this time where we are only in an advise and assist role. They said we'll drop bombs on the Doctors Without Borders hospital. Now there is... And you'll notice, I think the president always or there's always reference to MSF which is Médecins Sans Frontieres And the Obama administration, I figured something's wrong here. They've been really at odds with Doctors Without Borders for a long time and primarily like the last straw and there's all the founder of Doctors Without Borders he left you know it was huge blow up in that this is a political organization we've talked about this yes there are doctors on the ground but it's big its huge budget and it's political organization they were

2:47:33 I think the Obama administration is angry that they started this, oh there's Ebola outbreak while they were about to do a vaccination trial because I think Doctors Without Borders does that for the pharmaceutical industry. If i'm wrong let me know But they really...so what I've been reading is that, really the Ebola outbreak wasn't such a huge deal and the Obama administration wanted to run it differently or had some other plan to get those, what is now 3500 troops in there? Which I guess they're still there even though the Ebola crisis never seemed to really pan out. So they are pain in the ass for some reason and you know when someone bothers us here in America we bomb you. It works yeah usually shuts up

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World Series Power Outage, Fox and Google Fiber Glitch

During the first game of the World Series, Fox Sports suffered a major technical failure that took the broadcast off the air. Google Fiber, the provider in Kansas City, also apologized for outages, leading the hosts to suspect that Fox's reliance on internet-based infrastructure rather than traditional satellite backups caused the embarrassment.

world series· fox sports· google fiber· kansas city· technical glitch· broadcasting

2:48:18 I'm looking into this. I'd like to find out, yeah you've now taken it... You've chosen... I have chosen this as my beach. Chosen this is some horrible thing that we gotta look into? I don't mind! I think its gonna be great So there's a problem so this bombing is not coincidental It's what we do. It was what we do. That's I'm sure there was a lot of guys saying, hey, we shouldn't be bombing in Osbill now as we got to do this for this reason. Yeah no that's why you haven't heard anything since about the other bombers. Got to bomb these guys yeah or i got one This was a strange thing that happened at the first game of The World Series The power went out and they Fox lost their stuff completely twice and had to give a blue screen of death to them to the viewers yeah then Now this is like professional broadcasters it's bad

2:49:05 It's very bad. In fact, most of the networks they have a complete backup system for events like this which are massive major events so when and I've seen it happen there There's a HD or the high-definition broadcast going in some I have somebody strips over a cord and boom immediately goes to a low definition But it still going you don't lose that thing completely like they did but there was a strange little tidbit when they tried to explain this on the nightly news that I thought was just, you know again... Just play this clip and then i'll tell you what we're talking about. Which clip is it? Fox blows out! Ah yes of course were wishing him well and there was something else about the game and now the apology over going to black

2:49:48 ABC's TJ Holmes on the glitch seen by millions. Hi, we're having some technical difficulties It was the middle of the fourth of an epic 14 inning World Series opener when TVs across the country went to this Fox commentators at a loss. I don't think it's a weather problem because it wasn't raining at the time of this. Fox Broadcasting has taken some kind of a technical glitch. The game was halted here in the stadium, meanwhile fans at home were having a field day on social media for one fan It was kind of like watching baseball with the Flintstones another asking did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in? Our music does that mean we're going back to Kansas City

2:50:29 After five minutes and a second outage, power restored. Fox now apologizing blaming the outage on a rare electronics failure Google Fiber providers of high-speed internet apologizes to its customers too. That's for game two tonight rest assured baseball fans I got 99 glitches And put a goatee on there will ya? Alright Why what does any of this have to do with Google apologizing? Because Google who provide Google Fiber which is television they lost their network in a whole different state.

2:51:13 That's what happened. Yeah, it was never really mentioned during this report that he was just Fox scrambling around and apologizing and acting like idiots And then Google slightly apologized there's no press release There's no mention because Google doesn't tell you anything they yeah Kansas City. Yeah, Kansas City had they own Kansas City fiber? That's their first so it was Google I think it was somebody flipped the switch or did something or somebody hated the well hold on now We're going to search Hold on, check this out. Search dot N-A show notes dot com I believe years ago when we were talking about sunspot activity and how it can ruin satellite transmissions... ...I believe we had a story about Fox maybe was from one of our producers who said you know Fox specifically Fox is going all IP they want to run they don't want to rely on satellites are doing everything over internet protocol it's possible

2:52:13 that they were using some of the infrastructure. I think it's more than possible because there is no other reason for Google to apologize to its customers, meaning Fox was its customer! That's what I think yeah. Yeah. You know the Fox...I mean you..I don't think a lot people realize how The networks think they do not the big boys the big boys where we are you're not like seeing stuff like this happen We already have wired who as we know is a Manipulable don't blame Google fiber for that World Series outage Okay, I'll have to look into that. I think you're right it was probably all Google's fault yeah

2:53:00 I'm sure it was. They're not broadcast... The broadcasting people are just, everything is duplicated they do not like because what happens this was an ABC story they like to chide each other yeah these guys are amateurs and then the next negotiations for the World Series come up with baseball people you say you can't trust these guys their amateur that's right it costs money Look at the money and it was embarrassing. People turned off the sets, a lot of people didn't watch after that and it was a great game and you would trust them again? It's very big problem. You have a problem. Yeah I know... Google! It's a glitch! This is a glitch hold on a second By the way I thought twice use of the word glitch was a bonus with that clip That was a big bonus hold on a sec So I have to mention one thing because in that clip it brought up the weather

CHAPTER 48 / 53 Discussion

IBM Buys Weather Company Assets, J-Lens Balloon Crash

IBM acquired the digital assets of the Weather Company to integrate data into its Watson AI platform for climate strategies. Meanwhile, a massive "J-Lens" military surveillance balloon broke loose from its tether in Maryland and drifted into Pennsylvania, taking out power lines before crashing.

ibm· watson· weather company· j-lens· surveillance balloon· pennsylvania

2:53:51 The IBM just bought the weather company's digital assets. What? Yeah! From the Rothschilds? Yep, they did not however buy the Weather Channel... Just all of their digital assets so IBM is now going to be in charge of all that. The weather Oh, that's because they want to put this got something new with Watson. Yeah of course of course and Watson will come up with I don't know some climate change strategies oh yeah guaranteed Guaranteed climate change guaranteed Yes It's it's crazy you can't even what can i do to uh to help solve climate change nothing eat less meat Don't fart eat less meat

2:54:34 And of course we can't leave today's program without chuckling about the... well I'll just call it a drone, but okay. It was a balloon. That was a balloon! Yeah but you know this thing is everyone's oh this is surveillance for incoming missiles and yeah oh yeah it works so well we caught the guy in the gyrocopter flying right onto the White House lawn So no these things are called J-Lens I think that what its called? If you look at the specs of this, this is where they have that Argus, the huge high resolution. They can follow you, your car or anything. This is a total shut up slave thing and thank God it crashed! It was funny floating around shorting out power lines then busted in two and fell apart I like that part, I think thats hilarious

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Google Play Podcast Terms, Advertising and Content Restrictions

The hosts analyze the new Google Play podcasting terms of service, noting that Google reserves the right to run ads after shows without sharing revenue with creators. They also highlight restrictive content policies regarding "hate speech" and "promotional content," which they believe would prevent No Agenda from operating freely on the platform.

google play· podcasting· terms of service· advertising· hate speech· monetization

2:55:28 It's good work burning a power line They had one of the network one of the networks had an early report where they first put this thing up and locals were complaining And they had to report with the guy. Well, what is there any chance this thing get loose? No There's no chance in a million years We've got this tether here and you guys showed all the gear that why I would never get lose Yeah, it seems like a bill is like two billion dollars or something as crazy was it was a few million or a couple million maybe I just wanted to, a lot of people are just so you don't have to do this anymore. Uh, the people are sending me this note that Google has now uh they're getting into podcasting cause it's hot. You know it's hot. It's a hot podcast. Podcasting is hot. We got to get in on that podcast. Go podcasting! Yeah yeah go GO PODCASTING! Um and so then hey just submit your RSS feed and it'll be great

2:56:18 And it was like, hey... They already threw our assess out the window. They already threw it under the bus. Yeah well not for podcasts and but here's why we're not going to do that one Google in their terms of service if no one no one bothers to look at this of course They assign themselves the right to put any type of advertising at the end of your show, after your show. They won't do pre-roll they won't do mid roll but they will do advertising after the show which is just a start because... Oh yeah that's just the beginning it doesn't mean anything there's no big deal But here's the mistake that people make well first I'll tell you what else so then they have your show has to adhere to the content and conduct policies for podcasts

2:57:03 Why don't you just work for a suit? So, number three on the list. Do not distribute content that promotes hatred or violence towards groups of people based on their race or ethnic origin religion disability gender age veteran status or sexual orientation slash gender identity. You're telling me this... That I can't do an anti-Al Qaeda antiterrorist show? Nope! Technically that would be hate speech I can't say all these terrorists should be dead, these Al-Qaeda bad guys should be killed and in the wars that we're in we should kill the enemy? You can't do that. What is anti American?! What's wrong with these people! Also you may not spam including sending unwanted promotional or commercial content or unwanted mass solicitation Do no create Puck... We can't so wait a minute

2:58:00 So I can't say, can you give us donations? Everybody out there with the dovorak.org slash NAA it would be very useful especially this upcoming Sunday show because usually we have a fall off after an anniversary and it'd be nice to pick up the slack a little bit. I can't do that! I will read you the line that forbids you from doing this Do not create podcasts or pages on Google Play with the sole purpose of advertising content or services outside of Google Play We can't even send someone to a different service. But anyway, oh here... I can't say, Al-Iwaki's a douchebag. We can't even use the douche bag call out with people doing it with their buddies! That's right! So that's illegal or violates their terms so they can't... You don't have a choice you said that we're not gonna do it yeah we can't do it is illegal by their terms of service To monetize your... Wait wait stop

2:59:05 So what you're telling me is that anybody who goes along with this and actually puts it on the internet... Well, here's where it gets bad. Yeah? Okay. Well what's bad I know what's going to happen because People will get uptake, you know when you're on Google and they'll highlight and everything that Apple did. And then you'll be locked in and stuck! You'd be afraid to leave because your audience somehow would be connected to this Google Play podcast portal. I have a funny idea... Okay hold on To monetize your podcasts, here's what you can do. You are allowed by the grace of Google You can include ads and other methods of monetization and sponsorship in your podcast. You can work with advertisers, you can work with advertisers, ad networks and other sponsors to help monetize your podcasts If you include ads or other monetization in your podcasts content make sure the advertising content complies with the Google...with the Content and Conduct Policies for Podcast

3:00:02 And here, Google reserves the right to show and display image ads alongside podcast content. Google will not insert any pre-roll ads before podcast content starts or mid roll ads during a given podcast episode. Google reserves the right to serve post role video or audio ads after the podcast content. Google Play Music does not provide direct payment or revenue share for your podcast content. Wait a minute, they're going to run your podcast and then run an ad? And you're not going to get a piece of the action? No. Okay so here's how you do it I'm just doing anyone out there who thinks they are going to use this service at the very end of your podcast say

3:00:40 And now as we end the podcast, you should know that you will hear an ad from a douchebag advertiser that won't give us any money and we get no piece of this action. So listen away! Enjoy yourself with this douche bag." Well that's not going to happen because you violated their terms of service for content and conduct. I'm not sure is that true? Yeah because you said douche bag... You disparaged it... I can reword it so its legal Yeah, but they're gonna kick you off. They'll kick you off so no people this is not a good idea This is in fact a very bad idea A very very bad idea. This is not the way they did YouTube

3:01:22 Now, but they're screwing the... this is well look at that's a great example. Anyone who was a partner with YouTube you know now they have to sign on to this this YouTube Red or whatever it is otherwise their podcast get their shows get deleted so they have to sign this contract or they'll give me oh you'll no longer be you can still link to it but do you want to have presence and whole page of something he's nuts! They are just greedy bastards I don't know why people fall for this crap They want all the money. It's so trusting, there is so much trust of these companies. Well let us see what happens? I have an idea though we should do a podcast on this Google network Okay and then what? And it is just hate speech No! no I don't wanna get kicked off I wanna stay on it should be all love and milk and roses 10 minute podcast maybe 5 minutes I am writing this down 5 to 10 minute podcast promoting

3:02:20 The Great No Agenda Show. And what do we call this? And then we say, and make sure to Google no agenda so you can see what's going on. Oh man that's gonna... So google no agenda You'll love it and you can use google and we're happy John and happy Adam and here we are with the unicorns and all of the rest. Climate change is real! Climate change is real listen to no agenda when you get the chance you might enjoy it if you'd love listening to us If they're all in on climate change Fuck I'm all-in and your trans jester Five trends just we are the show for you five minutes of your time. It would so do the five minute It's fine They can run an ad after it You know big deal, and it's just a guy see doesn't as a marketing tool what could be wrong with nothing's wrong with that Okay gonna kick us off

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Russian Ships and Undersea Cables, New York Times Blame

The New York Times reports that Russian ships are operating near critical undersea data cables, causing concern for U.S. officials. The hosts argue this is "pre-blaming" Russia for potential future cable cuts, while also noting a Times story that blames Putin for the surge of Syrian refugees into Europe.

russia· undersea cables· new york times· david sanger· syrian refugees· vladimir putin

3:03:13 Then we can make a fuss as you've even better marketing tool. It's we got kicked off of Google it's too tiring man It'd be great hiring no yeah, we can do it all right lot of f-russian news Russian ships are near the the undersea data cables to close for comfort yet this way I pointed this out as oh Pre-announcing, pre blaming Russia for something that hasn't happened yet. That we're obviously going to do Yeah, we're gonna cut the lines and tap into them like we always do yeah We will blame Russia yeah it's despicable even better New York so this was that was New York Times headline Russian ship nears data cables Russian ship near data cables are too close for US comfort

3:03:57 And of course it says, you know there's no actual fear no threat nothing but it's too close for comfort. Thank You New York Times and the New York Times now saying Russia is responsible for this Syrian refugee surge Is that rich or what? Wow That's a good one But think about the implications of that Because that's a way to... Europe will love the story. Yeah, man! Yeah Putin did that man and all these people are here from Somalia because Putin in Syria, Putin, Putin, Putin

3:04:39 It's not even worth commenting on. I mean, it seems to me that if anything Putin is trying to stop that but okay because he's worried is gonna flow over into Russia But it is the New York Times that says this This is what they're saying about Who's the writer? Who's the writer on both those stories Hold on, hold on I'm going to look him up and see if we can tell Let's look at the Russian story for The Data Cables That was written by David E Sanger and Eric Schmidt S-C-H M-I T-T. Yeah, Sanger. And the other one... Where was that? Now that was which one of the stories? The Russian...? That was the data cables. Data cables. And it's and the... Putin is fault! Yeah, Putin responsible for the surge is Karim Fahim and Maher Saman I don't know who these are. Maher Saman doesn't even have a link in Karim Fahim

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Gulen Movement Charter Schools, Turkey Police Raid

The hosts provide updated statistics on the Gulen movement, noting there are 149 Gulen-linked charter schools in the U.S., with the largest concentration in Texas. This follows a police raid on a Gulen-operated television station in Turkey ordered by President Erdogan.

fethullah gulen· turkey· recep tayyip erdogan· charter schools· texas

3:05:47 I wanted to talk about the New York Times a little bit, but i'm gonna put it off to the Sunday show because I have a funny bit that I've been watching some of the stuff they're doing and It's like one of you guys kidding me. Yeah, but yeah David saying is very famous he's uh He's one of their guys. He's in New York times What do you want me to do next right? Right quick correction on we were talking and this kind of ties into the air to one the boss there in Turkey who had a police storm television station during live broadcast shut it down. That is one that is operated by the Gulenists, the Gulen movement that's our guy there in Pennsylvania and quick correction on the actual stats of the Gulen movement as it relates to charter schools or schools

3:06:37 The official numbers, there are over 1200 Gulen schools worldwide. Outside of Turkey there are more Gulen schools in America than anywhere else in the world with 149 charter schools in 26 states. The total number of kids in Gulen charter schools in the USA exceeds 60 thousand and Texas has the largest number of them which is I think 43. So just to make it...I want to get those numbers right when accusing people of being a-holes All right. And then a funny one, something we saw coming from a long way off this week employees at rejuvenize in Henderson found Chelsea Aki dead the 24 year old posted this video on her Instagram it shows a cryo chamber a Metro Police report says Aki died in a chamber like this the Hawaii native was the manager of Rejuvenice I do know that she was alone closing the shop up

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Cryotherapy Death in Las Vegas, Chelsea Ake-Salvacion

A 24-year-old manager of a cryotherapy center in Las Vegas was found dead after spending ten hours in a cryo chamber. While investigators ruled it operator error, the hosts express skepticism about how someone could be trapped for that long in a machine meant for three-minute sessions, suggesting the possibility of foul play.

cryotherapy· las vegas· chelsea ake-salvacion· liquid nitrogen· occupational safety

3:07:36 and then did go into the machine, and apparently it didn't turn off. Authorities with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration believe Aki was in the chamber for at least 10 hours! A police report says that 24-year old used a machine without any assistance It goes on to say Aki may have suffocated Investigators ruled operator error. It's very frustrating to know because You know, there are no cameras in there. So basically the only person that does know what happened is Chelsea. Cryotherapy experts say no one should be in the machine longer than three minutes! We are told the cryo chamber temperatures go down to minus 240 degrees Fahrenheit What could possibly go wrong? I suspect murder. Murder... It's dangerous

3:08:35 Yes, it is. It's not an it's a great way to kill someone hit surely no cameras nothing around just throw into things stay and keep her in there And you know even she'd fight to get out You push her back down until she can't move anymore, and then usually we're there for 10 hours all right perfect Why don't you give us a nice kicker? We'll get out of here well I do have a Have a kind of a kicker, but it's not what I would call funny. Okay? It doesn't have to be I got a funny one Let's try this with that set up just a little Bad setup this is a little just a little bit of

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Republican Distrust of Government, Show Outro and Mix

The hosts conclude the eighth anniversary show by citing a poll showing that 48% of Republicans view the federal government as a threat to life and liberty. They sign off with their traditional "In the morning" greetings and a music mix featuring clips from the episode's discussions on drones, glitches, and government lies.

polling· gop· world war iii· adam curry· john c. dvorak· adios mofo

3:09:12 I'll keep the other clips. There's a shorty, Republicans...I just thought this was funny they did all these polls to put down Trump but i thought they had an interesting conclusion here in these little polling data that shows Republicans hate the government and Republicans have some deep institutional concerns 48% believe the federal government is a threat to their life and liberty, while 74% believe the political system is not working despite GOP control of the House and Senate. Yeah well duh! We're running it and it doesn't work? Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. Alright I look forward to your New York Times thing on Sunday that'll be fun And I have a few things left over here as well

3:09:56 And we will keep tracking everything that's going on. Migrant crisis, Europe falling apart... We're killing people everywhere- WOOO! PARTAY! World War III is in full progress. We should start-we should pick a date when it really started and just call it that Happy 8th John has been a pleasure so far. Ah, It's been fantastic Here's to eight more Eight to go. Eight to go. Ohhhh. The end of the world Yeah exactly Alright everybody, coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of drone star state. Thank you very much for supporting us for these past years Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back right here with 8 year and 1 episode on Sunday Right here On NO Agenda Adios mofo! I'm the leading states sponsor of Terrorism

3:11:24 When it comes to dealing with me, you got a clenched fist or an open hand. You pick! The party's over to all the dictators Make me commander chief and this crap stops If you have computer problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but a glitch ain't one Yes right on Murderer Government documents And i walk out in clear blood It goes Albert Scott The government lies

3:12:03 No Japanese Japan blowing up in sea You will light up and you and your family Pay judgment for GMOs Deaths, rots of disease Fires spreading dance rotten bodies Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex Talkin' things like Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe Dvorak.org slash N-A