Can You See That Juice?

00:00 And I was stunned by this. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Sunday October 11th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 764 This is no agenda Guarding your fragile reality from sea to shining sea and broadcasting live. Being the region 6 here in Austin Texas In the morning everybody i'm Adam Curry a-a-and from northern Silicon Valley where we've got this new noise maker I'm John C. DeVorah Sorry I heard your noise maker shake your noisemaker, baby. It's called a crow or something Whatever you do don't shake the rain stick man, but forgot to mention that yeah somebody else bitched about this We gotta be careful with these things they're real they work doesn't work here hmm Broadcasting it all over the country probably doesn't help

00:55 Dilutes it no, no sends all the South Carolina before we started mea culpa short may a culpa. Okay? things always comes in to come in threes and We'd had two previous episodes before Thursday show where something went wrong with the RSS feed and And just because I always tweet glitch doesn't mean I don't want to explain your briefly But you know, you make a mistake and the problem with republishing an episode in the RSS feed is that a lot of these podcast apps don't really know what to do when something changes. So it's a horrible process... A lot of them or all of them? I would say... What's the one... Stitcher is one that people use besides the

01:47 Whatever that and stitcher is a big one And then when you change the GU ID which should tell the podcast client to say oh, this has changed Let me refresh that it doesn't actually do it now That's bad enough because whenever this happens the amount of tweets and emails It's my own fault But it just it floods the inbox. Hey man I couldn't get the show better okay great now what happened on Thursday on Thursday Oh, it's really bad. Well you know what? It's kind of a slap in the face because I'm guessing that the other side of this equation which are the podcast apps they don't care. No they don't. They just don't and they specifically don't care about this show. Specifically not about this show!

02:35 What happened on Thursday and I was way out of it. The allergies were really, really bad so we finished the show and we do all the post production... I will attest to this let me give you an example for the audience out there This is Adam like hi i'm adam curry blah blah blah on the show on the show on the shows over ohhhhhhhhhh I can barely talk I'm dying here. I like how you do it! Hi, I am Adam Curry on the show and the show of the show." That's a nice thing. He can maintain a professional sound even though he is... Even though I'm tripping. ...trying to walk. I was tripping. Okay so I upload the show and so Tina The Keeper is coming over so I want to get everything nice and I wanted be ready we are already little bit yeah we started late went a little long

03:22 And so I'm, you know everything's done. I'm in the bathroom and starting to shave. You're in bathroom? In the bathroom! I said I'm starting to shave and all of a sudden they start getting all kinds emergency messages from Void Zero. It was like come back come back there is something wrong with the MP3 Now, in my haste or in my fog of allergies I failed to notice that the upload had failed. It looked like it had gone through but there was an error message which I just hadn't seen and although I said glitch the technical explanation is that our own CDN that we've built which Void0 runs completely just because he loves this show his contribution...it had run out of disk space

04:11 And so the show only made it up halfway and then once that happens we have our own kind of virtual CDN. It propagated half a show, goes everywhere half a show! So everybody's freaking out and Boyd Zero is freaking out too he's like oh yeah re-upload okay so I'm waiting now this is going on for about five minutes to upload the show okay re-upload good we check we test good...I go back now when I was on the I Love Laundry tour I think we discussed this. You learn to be very conservative with water, not so much that you don't have water when you're hooked up to a campground or what we call city water but your tank will fill up...I think the graywater tank is what may be... Howard Glassman Hold on a second. I am now incredibly impressed if you were making a segue into some other topic on water. Ben Wattenberg No, I wish!

05:08 So what you learn is that instead of when you're shaving, because I shave with a razor wet shave and then I have shaving cream all over my face. And you learn that instead of keeping the water running, you fill up the basin and then you clean the shaver in between shaves in the water so this has now become a habit Unfortunately, when Void Zero started sending me these warning messages I walked away leaving the water running. And the thing in the drain clogged? No! The whole bathroom was flooded John. Wow... I mean the wastebasket was starting to float away- The whole thing was flooded

05:55 This is getting funnier by the minute. And I have pictures... I like the way you prefaced this thesis about why you had to plug in the drain. It's true, it's a good story! So I took pictures now... You have no idea! Have you ever done this? When you're maybe 15 you make this mistake but not when your 51. I could not believe it And now the crazy thing is, you know this building is concrete unfinished ceilings exposed concrete and the floors are... what's that? Stained concrete. I don't know where the water went but I certainly didn't clean up all of the water that should have been on the floor so I don't know if it went downstairs or... Yeah dripped down your neighbor! So why did the building work?! This was not good It was not good at all

06:47 Anyway, so and then I still had to deal with hey man only got one hour to show what's wrong Can I ask a question of course now? What would since the these podcast apps aren't gonna deal with this With it with the standard with it's the standard of this was resetting the thing is saying you notice an hour It's two or three two-and-a-half hours another our could you could you upload a part 2 on And would that fix the problem with the podcast apps? Well, then you have another entry and of course I could do that. But what should happen is first of all, you just replace the file and then anyone who hasn't retrieved it yet will get it but there's so many automatic systems in place like BitTorrent Love,

07:35 They grabbed from the RSS feed so the BitTorrent version was truncated, the BitTorrent Sync version was truncated. It's just never-ending! Anyway... That explains their lack of donations. Then I take full responsibility and it's very very sorry. Really? I don't but it..I understand what you have to do but it just seems to me that if I'm running one of these apps yeah I would be a little more forgiving, because I'm sure this happens a lot with all kinds of people. Yeah and it's something that is at the core...I mean it has happened to us two or three times over the last eight years We've had our mistakes yeah but really what its part of the core RSS system with this GUID which you know unique identifier for The Post and when it changes and removes it the feed should be reparsed and then you know it should have the proper episodes there but a lot of this does not work

08:32 Anyway, sorry and then it's amazing how many people say where can I get a copy? Where can I get the show like we've now we forgotten that you know You can download it from the website always baffled me. You can play it from the world No agenda showed our comments right there click yay yeah wow oh I got a lot of, well anyway. What you got on your plate? Willis? Well I was just coming upstairs to start to do the show and I was setting the television to record something but I was catching the end or part of the middle I guess of this show, I think it's floating around HBO or Showtime one of the two called San Francisco 2.0 Oh I'm not familiar with this is like a reality show or what is it No no no It's a documentary about how San Francisco's being ruined

09:21 by the tech companies and real estate prices, and all the rest of it. There's been a bunch of clips that we haven't played on this show but I've been collecting them on some of these crazy things going in San Francisco where people rent a house out and they put bunk beds in every room and they put 50 people in there. Yeah like 800 bucks for a bunk bed. Oh yeah this is great! And then people put up with this crap and nobody even thinks about going to East Bay where you can get something still not cheap but its cheaper And this woman who's the narrator says, and the tech companies have said they don't have to follow government rules.

10:00 And tech companies are saying that they're not going to follow government rules. What tech company said this? No, tech companies are saying they don't have to follow government rules." I was just irked! I'm gonna contact the producer and ask him...I want to know specifically which tech company has said we're not following government rules. You do that. I'm going to fail at this. You go do that, John! I'm going to! I'm irked! Yeah... Alright. Okay Well we start with the bombing in Ankara The bombing in Turkey The double bombing, I should say We can do that but I think to preface it I have a perfect clip That I believe should be played here and again Here and agai- I'm only gonna play once today

10:55 You you might be surprised if you hear it, okay? Can you see that juice? Okey-dokey oh my gosh. Can you see that juice? You know, the minute I drag the clip into the player and see it's two seconds. I know that i've been had once again Okay this one is going over here so we can play more often very good Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? What was that from?! That's great! I have three clips from this little thing And I'll explain after we played the third one but... So this a thread throughout the entire show

11:36 Yeah, okay. See I can start to combine these things that you're sending me. I like that a lot. Well you can do this... Can you see that juice? Juice It's a sickening, you know... I got my own story about juice later. That'll be the perfect lead in. Let's go with the bombings! All right well first let's look at what's happening on the ground boots on the ground we've received from several of them from the professor out there in uh I think he's in Istanbul that everybody is pretty convinced that this was the government's doing. Protesters in Istanbul blame their government for a pair of deadly bomb attacks earlier in the day, that killed some 95 people in Turkey's capital city During a demonstration protesters held signs linking President Tayyip Erdogan to the explosions. Erdogan gave the order his henchmen carried out the massacre The sign read

12:40 The bombings in Ankara targeted a planned peace march by pro-Kurdish and leftist groups who were protesting the conflict between Turkish forces and Kurdish militants in the country's southeast. Video of bodies and bloodstained flags scattered in the streets showed the level of destruction from the bombings As the demonstrations continued into the night, some protesters in a largely working class residential district on the northern edge of central Istanbul hurled stones as riot police retaliated with smoke grenades. So just looking at this and because we do this show there's an incredible amount of information that we deconstruct and dissect every episode

13:21 I recall very distinctly, now this is going to go back to probably February of this year when there were a number of phone calls recorded phone calls and conversations that were released to the public regarding, one, Erdogan. And there was some corruption going on with him and his son. But then where these two... If you recall John, a conversation was overheard it was recorded there were transcripts everywhere of these two Erdogan officials talking about creating what we would call a false flag

13:58 And they said, oh you know what we're going to do is we're going to start bombing crowds and then we'll use that uh...to go and attack the Kurds in northern Syria. Now they did it! Do we have that clip? Well, of course we don't have an actual audio that is usable for the show because it's not in English but I do have this Turkish Prime Minister Amad Davutoglu told reporters there was strong evidence to suggest the twin attacks at a pro-Kurdish rally in Ankara was the work of two suicide bombers. That's enough, you don't need to know any more than that! No this is it. Why would a suicide bomber do that? It doesn't make sense here no I don't think there's any suicide bomber here from the transcript. Of course not. I mean i could coordinate the diplomacy but civil war the military

14:51 We don't have any problems with that. Second after it happens, it'll cause great internal commotion." The border is not under control? Yes the bombings are of course going to happen but I remember our talk from three years ago and they just go...it goes on and on the whole transcript in the show notes they talked specifically about bombing crowds to create you know a huge outrage so that they can then... Well they got their outrage! Yeah yeah absolutely. Aimed at the wrong direction. So this is not, you know... This is no surprise to anyone who has no agenda thinking. No. Although a lot of people with no agenda thinking will see things that don't exist which we haven't been able to fix Yeah that does happen It does happen but it's okay! It's training and people got the training wheels on. It takes a little while to be able figure out And then there's this I think what we should be on the lookout for Is the tomb of Suleyman Shah

15:52 Are you familiar with this artifact? I didn't know he had it. I know Suleiman, but I didn't know about his tomb or what's going on with it So he of course according to legend is the grandfather and founder of the Ottoman Empire And now his tomb has been moved It has had three different locations since...I guess since he died in 1236 All of them in Syria But they have been moving this tomb closer to the Syrian-Turkish border. Let's see, in 73', the tomb was under threat of being flooded by Lake Assad and then they agreed... Turkey and Syria agreed to move it 85 kilometers north but still along the Euphrates Riverside And that's only 27 kilometers from the Turkish border

16:46 And this is an ongoing struggle and just as a symbol, I'm pretty sure we'll see the tomb of Suleiman pop up as a target. That's just the future vision that i think is coming down the pike because whenever you can get something like that in a way it's like the flag for us or something of that ilk. More like moving the Washington monument around? Yeah...I don't think its that big And of course now the military industrial complex is going to expand the number of troops at the Incirlik air base in Turkey. I didn't know this, that that air base has 5 000 troops on it! That's the biggest one anywhere you know let's just call turkey a part of Europe for all intents and purposes and they're going to expand it by another two-and-a-half thousand capacity so this this is kicking off

17:51 Yeah, well everything's all hell is breaking loose let's face it. And then we have strife everywhere in Europe regarding the migrants this is really getting out of hand We in the Netherlands we saw one of the centers one of the asylum centers Was stormed people are now storming these places. There's protests everywhere It's just it's this is a much bigger problem than anyone really realizes I think Not if you watch RT Okay, what'd she got well? You know but I have

18:31 Quick clip, just as an intro to what you have on RT. We had Comey and Johnson all up on the hill testifying about Department of Homeland Security and about the FBI and just how we're doing in general And here's what they had to say about Syrian refugees which does not sound hopeful With respect to the potential of Syrian assailees coming into United States Assailees? I didn't know that was the word. I have never heard anyone use that word, and don't even know the word exists until now. Asylees? Asylum seekers is what you'd say. How would you spell that? Asy... Asylum. You'd spell it like that and change it to asylee. It looks good! Asylee a person who's seeking or has been granted political asylum. Yeah.

19:25 With respect to the potential of Syrian asylees coming to the United States, it is something that we have learned how to do better screening people. I should mention that before this, Jeh Johnson was asked the question, what about the refugees? And he... I don't know. Maybe it was playing words with friends or something and he went on this two minute monologue saying absolutely nothing just sometimes in a meeting like Ron Bloom could do this we just talk total crap and not answer the question but didn't say anything at all you know these people

20:02 But he did that. Most government people can do that, right? But it was really lame and then Jim as he called him... I didn't clip all that because it's just so boring but you get the idea. Then Jim jumps in with this The experience we had, we didn't do it as well as we should have in the mid-2000s. First decade with Iraqi refugees so we had to go back and redo it We've learned a lot from that So I think we are more effective as a law enforcement intelligence national security community at screening folks That said there is no such thing as a No Risk enterprise And there are things There are deficits that we face

20:38 I'm not comfortable talking about them in an open session. I don't want the bad guys to know what we might not be able to understand." That's how he summed it up. Now, listen to Judd Johnson because Comey did a pretty good job. He said hey you know it's not all great and we got to be careful. And then Judd Johnson who of course was just shined by his... What do you call him? If he is the superior then Comey is the... Superior? No. Judd Johnson's superior Then what is Comey to Johnson? He's the bo- he's the... I don't know who they both are. He's under him, he's under him! His underling No no no Yeah yeah yeah FBI is part of DHS Comey reports to Johnson Oh yeah FBI is under DHS Yes sir yes sir Anyway here's what here's what Johnson then said Alright fine thank you Senator if I could please With regard to Syrian refugees in particular I agree totally with what Jim said Oh asshole

21:38 We should do the right thing by accepting more, but we've got to be careful in doing it. We have improved the process for vetting from a security standpoint the refugees who are admitted in this country and I'm committed to making sure that we maintain that process. Oh, suck up! He immediately, yeah. Well if he's his boss why would he suck up to him? Well because he looked bad because uh...his underling shined him They're like oh yeah I agree that's exactly what he said. What HE said. Douchebag! Well whatever We're not gonna take that many It's not like what is going on in Europe. Well there are a bunch of reports going on including ones that are trying to document what is happening in these camps which apparently very poorly organized and which are about to get pretty darn cold

22:27 We get in the winter, the winter's coming and we have people freezing in tents. So the big trend which I saw was...and fortunately it is not translated but you can understand the German and he doesn't talk for too long but Juncker was giving a seminar by guess who was being interviewed on in front of large group of EU people and discussing how they're kind of tired of taking orders from Washington. At least that's kinda the way the RT played it, which is to their benefit, of course. But it's very interesting play EU Rethink Part One. Okay? Welcome back you're watching RT International. Washington must not dictate how the EU builds ties with Russia. That's according to the president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker

23:17 You have to treat the Russians, I say it bluntly, with respect. But we can't let Washington dictate our relationship. That's not possible." Well, it certainly looks like part of a general thawing. Last week we saw the meeting of the Normandy Four in Paris which ended on a positive note discussions about Ukraine there and now Juncker talks of this almost conscious uncoupling from Washington What is that? Conscious uncoupling they're using a Gwyneth Paltrow meme

24:06 That's where that stems from. Yeah, when she and Chris, what is his name? Chris from Coldplay… Chris' game. When they decided to divorce it was a conscious uncoupling and now we're using this? A meme phrase going around the EU or something. Strange. Last week we saw the meeting of Normandy 4 in Paris which ended on a positive note discussions about Ukraine there Juncker talks of this almost conscious uncoupling from Washington. How will it develop? Well, there's certainly a feeling that there was pressure on the European Union to place sanctions on Russia over Ukraine and in fact even the U.S., itself admits it. Let's hear that. It is true they did not want to do that but again it was America's leadership and the President of the United States insisting

24:55 half times almost having to embarrass Europe to stand up and take economic hits to impose costs. Well, we now know that those... Nice! That's exactly what we did in the end. Yes, and what I get a kick out of is that Biden calls it leadership. Now I was thinking about this. Well it is if you're a war machine It is bullying Yes. And now that I think about it, we have been bullying the EU to such an extreme that we're so... It's been going on long enough that we've become so self-conscious about bullying That's why bullying is a major major meme within our own country. But that comes back to the Dutch proverb what you say by yourself met je kop door de helft

25:41 Which means? What you are, what you say is what you are. IE what you accuse someone of is what you are yourself Exactly Yes So we're bullies Almost having to embarrass Europe just stand up and take economic hits to impose costs. Well, we now know that those sanctions have proven to be bad for both parties – bad for the Russian economy obviously but also for individual EU member states which have both lost trade as a result of the sanctions and as a result of Russia's counter-sanctions so this really marks a turning point in attitude at least. That is why you need to make efforts towards a more correct relationship with Russia

26:31 So it's necessary, says Juncker. Now these... What was the translation on that? Do you remember? Yeah it's something like uh it's not sexy but we're gonna have to look at this differently and yeah it was just another- It was pretty much what he said before. We can't continue like this So, it's necessary says Juncker. Now these sanctions on Russia are up for renewal towards the end of the year The question is could this rapprochement mean a rethink?

27:09 Yeah, I think he thinks it meant that the rethink is underway and we're gonna get screwed in this deal But you know the hypocrisy of the American approach is always amusing While I was doing today's show. I was looking at a lot of Sukhoi jets because they're best what the Russians are really using and And they have a lot of nice planes. You know, last night this has happened twice now all of the sudden tweets are flying emails are coming in this about midnight it's like Russian jet you know shot down over Turkey Russian jet shot down over Turkey and I saw this propagate really quickly USA Today US News everywhere...I don't think is true

27:51 I don't think a lot of what we're hearing is true. It seems unlikely that our Russian jets are going to get shot down anytime soon. Oh, absolutely! I don't see that happening. But look at Sukhoi and I was thinking about the sanctions against Russia and Sukhoi's a major operator. I think they're bigger than the MIG company, which is another...I can't remember if it's McCoy or something that has some name. And the two or three other companies that make these fighters but Sukhoi seems to have the top spot and they must make a lot of interesting components because I'm reading this on the wiki page US sanctions here we are at the big sanctioners. Let me read this. Does it actually have a pronunciation guide? Yes, it does. On August 4th 2006 the US State Department imposed sanctions on Sukhoi for allegedly supplying Iran in violation of the United States... violation of our agreement. Right. The Non-Proliferation Act 2000. Sukhoi was prohibited from doing business with the United States federal government

28:49 In November, same year in November the US State Department reversed its sanctions. It doesn't say any more than that but you know what happened? They're obviously supplying us with some crucial parts for jet engines... And rocket engines. Rocket engines. Something. I think it was the rocket engines though right? The rocket engines. We use Russian rocket engines. But it's interesting you bring that up I have a quick two-parter here about the missiles. So this is CNN, probably within three hours of the report... there was three hours between each of these reports. The first one… What we've seen in the course of the past few minutes only is an announcement quite an extraordinary one by the Russian defense minister he was sitting in the office of the Russian president when you almost casually sort of announced to him that the Russian naval bombardment

29:39 of Syria had begun. He said that four ships of the Caspian flotilla, which is a... The Caspian Sea is quite remote from Syria it's not close by at all but four ships of the Caspian Flotilla had launched long-range missiles 26 of them that have traveled something in the region the as far as the defense minister was concerned. Vladimir Putin took the news, these are often very staged events of course but he took the news... Unlike US events. ...in his stride and congratulated the Defense Minister on the operation saying that the results of that operation were positive and so that was how Russia learned

30:36 of Russia's escalation of its involvement in Syria from airstrikes to now officially include naval strikes as well. Alright, so they're shooting it from the Caspian Sea which is 1500 kilometers. These are ballistic cruise missiles and considering that we, the United States you know, can't even drop a few bombs out of a plane flying low and without killing children and doctors. You mean in hospital? Yeah like that. We meant to hit it! Well we'll get to that in the minute so... Oh wow look at the Russians they've got this high-tech gear their pinpoint surgical strikes now we can have that and I think as you were talking about the Russian aircraft maybe

31:23 Maybe there's a deal going down that has to be discredited because CNN came out with this report. Russian warships firing cruise missiles... By the way, whenever it's Barbara Starr you know it's bullshit. Russian warships firing cruise missile at what is says are ISIS targets in Syria. Vladimir Putin! But as the Russian leader celebrated his 63rd birthday on the ice rink There are new signs of trouble for the Russian military campaign CNN has learned at least four of the more than two dozen Russian cruise missiles launched from ships in the Caspian Sea crashed in Iran. They're duds, they're no good! They're crap, they don't work! No word from Moscow or Tehran

32:07 But US officials say they believe there are injuries. Here comes a setback for the Russian caliber cruise missile, billed as a highly precise weapon with a 1,000 pound warhead being used for the first time in combat." Aha! So it fails the field test? Yeah, and Russians have...and Iranians have both come out and said that there's no such event And nobody was hurt Did they report that too? Of course not Of course not. But you're right, though this is what's going on we have the Russians if you start looking at that's where I got involved with Sukhoi and that's a MiG to there some big 29s that the Syrian our Air Force has and Russian planes a lot of them especially yeah I didn't even realize that one of the early Migs was the best-selling aircraft in the world historically and still holds the record everybody even weren't the everybody was flying them

32:59 They're all over the world. And this is an armaments company, a number of them there's a number of them in Russia and about four or five aircraft builders and they have...they want to run a business like everyone else and they have to do this in real-time testing because Americans have been doing this and they know that we sell a lot of goods because look at what our jets did Yeah, and it's proven in war. And the Russians have not been able to pull that off and now they can and they'll be selling more planes which is going to hurt our business. So I wonder if this was a to tell the Iranians that the Russian missiles are no good?

33:39 I don't know who buys cruise missiles. It's not like the jets, you know? Everyone buys jets... It just seemed to say it's a setback for the manufacturer that that's blatant. Yeah well that was a nice try but you know i don't think a lot of the buyers of these types of products are listening to CNN I don't know about that. It's all about meme propagation and Barbara Starr is, you know she's the Pentagon reporter all she does...she has her own desk all she does is sit there all day and wait for the press releases to come in so everyone got this press release well Richard Engel of course on NBC is our CIA guy at NBC that is going to now dramatize the whole situation Russia versus Syria with this report

34:30 Russia's intervention into Syria is escalating by the day. And so are the risks, including confrontation with the US Senior defense officials tell NBC News that four of the 26 cruise missiles Russia fired at Syria from the Caspian Sea yesterday landed short in Iran. Russia and Iran deny it, apparently there were no casualties but what really has US military officials worried is that Washington wasn't informed before the launch even though the missiles traveled through airspace where American aircraft are operating Already at least two US planes had to be diverted to avoid confrontations with Russian aircraft. There has been U.S.-Russian consultation so- Hold on a second, that by the way... Let me just roll that back for a second let me hear exactly what he said. ...traveled through airspace where American aircraft are operating already at least two us planes had to be diverted to avoid confrontation Yeah you know what those planes were? Because I looked that up they were not fighter jets John they were drones

35:34 These are the ones that were 20 miles away? Yeah, they were drones not fighter aircraft. So that's yes there US planes if you didn't realize it would be technical. I didn't realized they were drones. No one is mentioning that but they were definitely two drones that needed to be deconflicted. After our operating, already at least two US planes had to be diverted to avoid confrontations with Russian aircraft There has been U.S.-Russian consultation so-called deconflicting meetings but they don't seem to be working and what's worse the Russians secretly recorded the video conference and showed it on television I love that! That was so funny

36:15 In the milf-milf conversations perfect Washington is also fuming at Russia's choice of targets in Syria mostly anti Assad rebels I'm sorry. It sounded like you were yelling the back We have not and will not agree to cooperate with Russia so long as they continue to pursue this misguided strategy The problem is Washington and Moscow are fighting what are effectively two different wars. The US bombing to stop ISIS, Vladimir Putin bombing to keep Assad in power and because these wars overlap a mistake could escalate quickly and badly Syria has been an open wound for more than four years now it's bringing the U.S. And Russian militaries dangerously close to each other closer than they've come in decades Lester yeah

37:08 If you're gonna say open wound, you might as well play the juice clip. You're right! Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? Dripping out of the open wound is beautiful So Lavrov, I'm happy with Lavrov. Finally, you know Russia is has found his voice Unfortunately comes in the form of Lavrov but because of his stature because of his his voice You know his whole appearance yeah and people like him Yeah And he hasn't been a nice demeanor and he hasn't and as I really love his accent well, I'll try his accent in a moment but He is making nothing but sense.

37:59 basis of the coalition activities in Syria is really flawed. Flawed? Why is it flawed, It's very good how he makes point here. You cannot operate without security council mandate you cannot operate without the consent of the country in question and we said from the very beginning when the coalition was announced that it was a mistake not to go to the Security Council It was a mistake. It was another mistake not to engage the Syrian government. Had they come for the Security Council, I believe we would be able... Now listen what he's saying. ...to agree on a concept which would be acceptable to all

38:38 So what he's saying is, hey how come you didn't just come to the Security Council? We would have come up with a concept that is agreeable to all. But no the Americans didn't do that and they call the Syrian leadership, the Syrian government led by Bashar al-Assad illegitimate and Lavrov makes an excellent point. And the words about illegitimacy of the Syrian regime, you know against the background of what we did on chemical disarmament. I believe this is very hypocritical. The Syrian regime was perfectly legitimate when they all agreed to deprive Syria for its chemical weapons."

39:19 Deprive of the so yeah, they were completely legitimate when we were negotiating to remove their chemical to deprive them of the chemical weapons We welcomed in our resolutions and the Security Council the decision of the government of Syria to join OPCW And everything was fine with everybody. Hunky-dory I don't understand why getting rid of chemical weapon requires a legitimate regime cooperation and on the other hand fighting terrorism requires no cooperation with this regime. That is our only... We're never going to get a puppet into this mess. This is the quagmire, meanwhile I play the flawed strategy this is the clip from last show. This is flawed strategies Ash Carter's complaints about the Russian intervention US Defense Secretary Ash Carter says that U.S.-led coalition will not be cooperating with Russia in the fight against Islamic State because Russia's strategy is tragically flawed. I've said before that we believe Russia has the wrong strategy

40:37 They continue to hit targets that are not ISIL. We believe this is a fundamental mistake Despite what the Russians say, we have not agreed to cooperate with Russia so long as they continue to pursue mistaken strategies and hit these targets Carter clarified the US position during a press conference in Rome with Italian Defense Minister Roberto Pioletti. He said the U.S will, however conduct basic technical talks with Russia about efforts to ensure flights over Syria are conducted safely

41:13 Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry says Washington's refusal to share intelligence with it about the position of Islamic State militants shows the U.S is looking for an excuse not to fight terrorism. First of all, this clip is probably about five or six days old. It's not that old but they still maintain this position and the failure to share information on which I think you and I would agree there are guys It might be because we really don't know anything and we're just trying to bluff our way, cause' were not interested in doing it much more than rubble-lising. I'm in agreement and I think that this bombing in Ankara

42:04 was intended to, if not now in the near future to invoke article 5 because of course as we found out on the last show yes indeed Turkey is a NATO member so an attack on one is an attack on all this will be this will come out as Syrians But maybe they'll blame it on the Kurds in northern Syria. But it will be the reason, the only reason to at least gear up... ...to have a full-on NATO assault because I think we're pretty much checkmate now." In Syria anything we do with the Russians in there is gonna make us look bad and To that point here's a more recent clip from Ash Carter who is he doesn't seem like a military guy at all You know no He's really a politician, and he's pretty good at it now knowing that We the John McCain who I have another update from has said in no uncertain terms That we have two groups of so-called rebels fighting in Syria against Assad one. Is the DOD

43:03 One is the DOD contractors, which McCain takes responsibility for. The other one are the CIA contractors, which McCain always poo-poos and says, well you know that's their guys we have nothing to do with them and of course that probably is ISIL But first, here's Ash Carter saying well maybe we're just gonna have to stop that and rethink. With respect to the issue of training forces in Syria that will take the fight to ISIL on Syrian territory That is an important ingredient of our overall counter-ISIL strategy And the United States remains committed to that We have been looking for now several weeks

43:45 at ways to improve that program. I wasn't satisfied with the early efforts in that regard, and so we're looking at different ways to achieve basically the same kind of strategic objective which is the right one which is to enable capable motivated forces on the ground to retake territory from ISIL and reclaim Syrian territory from extremism. So we have devised a number of different approaches to that going forward, and taking them to President Obama – I think you'll be hearing very shortly from him

44:25 in that regard about the effort, the proposals that he has approved and then we're gonna go forward with. Yeah so you're on the ground, your part of the DOD supplied and financed and supported group...and this is going on like yeah well have a meeting and we'll see what's gonna go on but coming up with some new strategies Oh yeah you get none the other side as fast as you can Now here's McCain what I thought was just a big whoa clip Where, again let's take into account we have the McCain backed guys which is Department of Defense Pentagon and these are all you know as Putin himself says these are all mercenaries they'll work for whomever but as long as the US keeps supplying them to work for them. But then the other guys the CIA our thesis that this is ISIL

45:13 Right. And that would be backed up by the report, the military report that came out two years ago that said we needed to make an organization like this. We need to make it and so that's exactly what CIA does. So if you listen with that in mind to what McCain says here he is not lying! Do you believe Russia is targeting ISIS targets or no? They're not. They may be targeting some, Chris but it's interesting their initial strikes were against the individuals and the groups that have been funded and trained by our CIA in a incredible flaunting

45:54 of any kind of cooperation or effort to conceal what their first, Putin's priority is and that is of course the prop up Bashar Assad. And by the way I can absolutely confirm to you that they were strikes against our Free Syrian Army or groups that have been armed and trained by the CIA because we have communications with people So not only is he saying, yeah they struck well it wasn't ISIL but it was really the guys who are ISIL and we because we talked to them. We have confirmation excuse me CIA we know what's going on over there we know what you guys are doing. There and so now we're going to have a meeting of the

46:40 military or some kind of communications that seems to be the administration's first priority and so we can stand by and watch them strike those groups that are fighting against Bashar Assad, that we're training in funding. So this is a Orwellian experience That's for sure. For McCain, for John McCain to say it's an Orwellian experience is quite rich. Now here's the thing that bothers me about right now what's going on at this moment I watched the three by threes yeah we're in week eight Friday no I think we were wrapping up week two okay all three networks there was only there were two common stories on Friday

47:27 All three networks played. One of them, which we'll get to later is the Ben Carson story The other one was this story and it's been displayed in a bunch of different ways But that what bothers me is that we did this story and you remember it because it came out at Democracy Now! clip And it was like two Three shows ago about how they've taken the five hundred million dollars away from this sit from this project Yeah, I'm from funding the rebels. Yeah They all on Friday they reintroduced The story to the mainstream media for a second go-round as if the first go round of the story didn't hit home It didn't hit home it didn't do the job or they wanted to rephrase it or restate it Or put in different words and I was stunned by this I'm thinking oh

48:14 This is an old story that is now being rehashed as though it's a new story, and they kind of twist it a little bit this way and that way. And nobody got the same version on the second go-round but this is one of them. This is the 500 million story redo Now to an outrage involving your money tonight. Your money? A half a billion dollars in US taxpayer money supposed to train thousands of moderate rebels to fight ISIS inside Syria Well, tonight the Pentagon admitting the program is a failure So let's get right to ABC's chief global affairs correspondent Martha Yeah It's a failure now all of a sudden new new news was like a failure like three or four and like a week And a half ago

48:55 And now it's a failure again tonight? What are they up to with this? And this is ABC, correct. Yeah well they have direct ties to the White House. Well no but all of the networks ran the story pretty much. The program is a failure so let's get right to ABC's Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz. Martha I want to show everyone at home some of the numbers and math we did today. 300 million dollars contracted out so far But only 80 rebels believed to be trained in actually fighting. That's about $3,75 million per fighter. And Mark you were telling us the Pentagon is going to continue the program just evolve it a little bit? Hey those guys got great math don't they we did the math middle of meeting and boy that's like over three million dollars per fighter yeah mercenaries don't come cheap! They certainly will The new plan for the 500 million dollar program is this

49:44 Instead of training rebel units, rebel leaders will be taught battlefield skills like how to provide information for airstrikes and then they will go join up with their units already in Syria. The units will be given ammo and if they prove their worth they will get bigger and better weapons Two things are clear, David. This will take a long time and there is no guarantee this program will succeed either. Very costly already. I thought about why we're having a redo, or there's another word for it. A revisit... Reboot of the same exact story and by the way I will say that there is little variation on the way they conclude one variation I think was on PBS says that their just gonna end up giving them money to the Kurds which we don't give em anything

50:39 Here's the reason I think they rebooted the thing and try to get now we bring it up again put it back in The publics mind so you forget the original report. The original report was pretty much centered around the idea that We gave them all this money, and the first thing they did was give it right to the Al Qaeda Remember that? Yeah, of course. They took them and said thank you for all your money here Al-Qaeda here al Nusra take the guns and they had these guys we didn't play all the clips I had but they have this guy say oh no we just gave the guns to al nusra because it was a new... They were already in place so we didn't have to organize the team there were already there

51:15 I think they wanted to reset that story so people forgot that. The hypocrisy though of yelling at Putin, you know, that he is... PUTIN! ...arming rebels in Ukraine, eastern Ukraine Yet we're doing exactly the same thing and it's okay. No one, no one questions that! No one or even funnier and a lot of people on the face page did pick up on this where the president says you know country doesn't need guns to protect itself yet we're giving guns to a country to protect itself I mean it's crazy yes it's crazy it's completely nuts

51:59 Good catch on that. So I have, yeah it was actually really a head scratcher when they're playing it as though its news today It happened today when this is like old news I have a couple of things on the Russians This is from RT and this is the Russian's bragging their approach to the Syrian thing is very propagandistic and very old-fashioned. When I'm listening to this particular report, I think wow it sounds like Stalin in the 50s It's just kind of old fashioned everything is going great we're very careful about what we're doing were not like these other boneheads This is Russian bragging about Syria Russia's air force has stepped up its campaign against ISIL with a record 67 sorties in the last 24 hours

52:47 That's the most since this coalition started hitting terrorist strongholds in the country. Now, a major strike hit ISIL headquarters here in the militant hotspot of Raqqa. We can show you the precise pictures of the terror bases being hit in another key ISIL command post Aleppo. Terrorists were killed in a former prison converted into an Islamic State base. Deputy Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Igor Makachev added other targets hit include, quote, communication hubs, command posts fuel stores and terrorist training bases. As a result of our air strikes, the militants are taking heavy losses and have been forced to change their tactics. They're now dispersing going deeper into cover and hiding in populated areas." So just replace rebels for American mercenaries? And we're on the short end of the stick! You really are yeah well

53:41 Well, that's what you get when we do proxy wars. You can't come out and say hey they're messing with our guys you can't see it. No you have to beat around the bush play part two and see where that goes. It has been the Su-30SM a 4++ generation machine called one of the most advanced in the nations locker according to one top fighter pilot. Oh this is another promo for their gear. Yeah because this is extraordinary. Yeah. ...meaning while such maneuvers can cause problems for rival states' planes, for the Su-30SM this is a standard move Its main function is air cover from potential threats for bombers like the Su-34 but it's also using those moves to hit terror targets You know you gotta... Backed by Russian fighter jets The Syrian army is currently stepping up its offensive across the country And here are pictures from a district in the Syrian capital Damascus You know it's gotta be

54:33 By the way, in the middle of that I took it out because it was just sound. They were showing the SU-30 which they call the Su-30 but we refer to as the SU, the Sukhoi 30 doing just crazy stuff in this guy going straight up and spinning around and flat...just crazy looking. Yeah, but that's a promo reel. It was total...it was a total promo video. I would think with Iran opening up all these companies jumped in the military industrial complex is all over Iran trying to sell our stuff to Iran and then you have Russia trying to sell their stuff to Iran so this is all about selling weapons to Iran. Expensive gear. But I can't see it any other way

55:18 It seems, you know...that's what at least part of this is about. Oh man that thing didn't work huh? Oh it sucks! Ah their missiles are no good. You don't want that." Well the Iranians are already pretty much all...it's gonna be hard to unseat the Russians they there are Iranian air forces already I think owned by the Russians i mean they have all their jets are Now, amidst all of this we have one extra problem that is cropping up and this is on the West Clark 5 so it's not completely unexpected but we're having more issues in the region. Lebanese security forces fire water cannon and tear gas to break up an anti-government protest in Beirut on Thursday. Protesters hurl rocks at riot police blocking the way to Parliament

56:04 Anger at Lebanon's government over perceived corruption and incompetence has sparked repeated protests. It came to a head in July when the government failed to resolve a trash disposal problem, and garbage piled up in the streets. Formed last year, the Lebanese government has struggled to make decisions. The country is still without a president at a time when the war in Syria has driven more than one million refugees into Lebanon. How handy, no president! Lebanon's parliament speaker cancelled the last day of this week session a discussion aimed at finding a way out of political crisis I made a mistake it is not the West Clark 5 that is Dave Clark 5 its the West Clark 7 lets review and see how countries are doing So I came back to see him a few weeks later

56:50 And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? He said oh it's worse than that! He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper and he said... ...I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense office today. This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran. We got it all! I think we have with Lebanon we've got them all John Now i'm listening to this my last clip I am listening to PBS News Hour and they have a couple of guys speaking and the Kagan's not given up because this ex-Bush guy came on David something I don't know his name is downstairs but this guy comes on who is an ex Bush Kagan

57:39 Operative. Operative. Operative. An operative, and he's trying to get us borderline to bring out World War III. Now I want you to listen to this character. This is the insanity clip on the...and this is where there have to remember or people listening to this have to remember that they're and we're talking about the West Clark Seven these guys are the ones behind it And this is the thinking that's going on right now because the Syria thing is not working out as it was supposed to work out, because the Russians have come in and rightfully came in finally to defend their ally.

58:18 who they sat on the sidelines for forever, figuring they could do the job themselves because they have all this Russian gear but they didn't know how to shoot it I guess. They didn't supply them manuals Who knows? But listen to this guy and listen carefully to his wording because there's one little phrase in here that just really is like what are you saying? Very significant, you know unintended consequences. So David Kramer what about that? I mean there is the real worry if the US gets involved it gets sucked in dragged in and can't get out The Turks had indicated a long time ago that they were prepared to send forces in if the United States provided cover and support so we should create safe zones We should create no-fly zones We should enforce those for any planes that would threaten people in those areas whether they're Syrian planes or Russian planes We should give the Russians full notice

59:08 that any violations or attacks on those zones would constitute an attack that we would have to respond to. Nobody wants this, there are bad decisions that have to be made here." What? Bad decisions?! There's bad decisions that have to be made is what he said and he's advocating that WE the United States in a different hemisphere put up a no-fly zone over Syria while the Russians are flying around there, which is one of their allies. Is he nuts? Yes! But what he wants is to happen under Article 5, which I think supersedes the Security Council. That's why I think he brought Turkey into the argument and Turkey as the big helper. Yeah, and Turkey...what do they do? They blow some people up

59:55 Blame it on the Syrians. It's easy to see. Those zones would constitute an attack that we would have to respond to but nobody wants this there are bad decisions that have To be made here, but that's where we are right now And I think unless we do that We will continue to see people get killed will continue to see people flee Syria so there aren't any good solutions? We have to find at least worst option But my question is isn't that it an entire new level of risk US planes gets shot down us troops can get potentially captured Not to mention a conflict with potential conflict with Russia. We have the Turks that have indicated their willingness to go ahead we may have other countries including from the Gulf although they're not great contributors to this kind of operation, The United States could provide the air support To provide the cover that way I think there is a way of doing this without putting US forces on the ground But there aren't any good options here Why isn't that?

1:00:53 Well, there's your strategy. David Kramer! What? This man is insane! This is the strategy it sounds like that was a desperate strategy at the moment Yeah well if the problem is you have everyone has to tie their selves in knots to explain what's happening because the truth is too ugly they say well basically we are ISIS and everything is bogative all these beheading videos which they stopped all of a sudden...what's up with that It just stopped. The studio wanted more money, or people were getting on to it. Well there was a lot of deconstruction by others on that case. Very obvious so yeah I think they are insane John and that would make sense with the expansion of the base in Turkey expanding by 50% from 5,000 to 7500 now this does come some geopolitical news

1:01:51 Israeli oil prospectors have discovered a huge oil deposit in the Golan Heights. Oh no! Let's make things more complicated and this is what they found is a layer I think 375 meters in thickness, in depth which Could be, you know... and I don't think it does. Israel doesn't have refinery capability do they? No! They don't have that but that would be enough so they already have the Leviathan gas deposits off the coast of well Israel Lebanon etc but now with this oil yeah people look at the map look at the Golan Heights This is for all intents and purposes Syria

1:02:40 So, you're going to see them getting into the deal protecting what they think is theirs. There's a lot of action going on right now in Israel not being reported so much because the way our news is structured currently we do not... We cover just, I don't know 9 to 11 stories on a daily basis and this isn't one of them in the mainstream media but it's all over every place else including even in China. And this is the stabbings in Israel clip so we can catch up with this so we all know what's going on. Instead of peace a new wave of violence is gripping Israelis and Palestinians and reached a new peak today

1:03:17 today as Israeli troops shot and killed six protesters. The trouble erupted in chaotic scenes along the Gaza border where young Palestinians rolled burning tires and threw rocks, meanwhile the leader of Hamas in Gaza praised a recent rash of stabbing attacks on Israelis And there were more stabbings today, including an apparent revenge attack by a Jewish man who knifed four Arabs in southern Israel. I'm sad now that I didn't clip the...I was watching the... Stabbings? Yeah, I was watching the State Department briefing

1:03:52 And I didn't clip it. God damn, I should have. Well what did it say? Well Matt said hey how come when Palestinians stab Israelis you call an act of terrorism but when an Israeli stabs Palestinians its not an act of terrorism The guy went home in a home in the home and I'm gonna highway things just an act of stabbing well, I know But you know it's there's a lot of stabbing going on. We're living in a war of words my friends Stabbing stabbings knifed with that. I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C

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1:06:58 Good excellent I can't wait for this for the whole juice sequence on them. Very excited another one's pretty good They're all three clips are super excited next Executive producers William Granger Marion and Indiana $310 in 26 cents, I'm already on my path to knighthood but after reading another superb newsletter by mr Devorak I feel compelled to graduate from associate executive producer to full-blown executive producer then that 310.26 gives them a double executive producership. That's right, you want to explain that for a second? Yes anyone who donates 10.26 is our birthday for the eighth anniversary of the show and anyone who donates any variable that has 10.26 in it if its over associate executive producership which would be $210.26 gets credit

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1:08:38 Crowd pleaser mac and cheese. I can't chase leftover pasta, whatever put it in you bake it and make a beautiful Brown I mean it goes with everything does oh man? I get it now Can you see that juice? But what was that from what to find news organization play the third one then Which is the yum clip and I'll tell explain it. Oh yum beautiful yum, okay? God What was that

1:09:19 This is the home shopping network. Oh gosh! And this is all ads all the time for some product or other and this is Wolfgang Puck who's making the mac and cheese which goes with everything Uh, and all this other stuff in this crazy oven he's selling that is a pressure cooker oven. It's like 400 or 300 bucks I guess or something like that and you put it cooks...you put in like a turkey...I can't even say how he says it...in his thing and cook a whole turkey was stuffing in everything in 55 minutes. Wow! In some circumstances, I look at it and I've seen this thing...I look at it and it looks like a cleanup nightmare. I don't know how you clean this thing? Yeah, but I am really in awe of you. It's one thing for the past three months to be watching three networks

1:10:13 For three months, but then it's but then you know yeah Okay Three weeks sure John 3 3 by 3 But then to add into your mix into your viewing mix the home shopping channel You are truly a god amongst men well when you can get clips like this yum clip. I mean come on All right, so... She does this throughout the show. It's very interesting to watch it's almost like a religious thing where you have the preacher and then everyone yelling amen she's like the Amen person and So he'll do something is they look at this I'll cut I'm cutting through the ham as your oh my god! That ham looks so good!

1:10:55 That's where the juice came from because he holds up this ham, slices of ham that are soaked with like this sugary goo on the outside and the goo is what's falling off. There's no juice. It's just goo? Is it goo or spooge? It's just goo and its coming off real thick like a syrup pouring off these ampies and she goes nuts! Oh nice Anyway, okay. That's your idea got your explanation all right so we have to do a sequence here. What does it mean? Hold on but it's Mac and cheese he just wants karma we got that for you. Oh yeah, sorry mac and cheese Leftover pasta whatever I put it in you bake it and make it beautiful brown. How many goes with everything? fall

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1:14:15 So I was in Houston. Oh yes, yes the report Yes i was in houston at you drove or flew? Drove okay yeah it's only two and a half hours driving if you want to fly then would take you longer and you wouldn't be mobile. Dexter, the vapor, Christina's ex-boyfriend and they're still really good friends then yeah he's yeah Dexter is kind of like my long lost son

1:14:59 So Dexter is in Houston for the Vape Summit 4. Now you have to know, Dexter he went through a pretty strange time so to see him pull himself up by his britches and become a businessman was nice to see it's nice to witness. So Vape Summit 4 in Houston at the big George R Brown Convention Center. I've been there. Phenomenally interesting John just Unbelievable this there is so much money going around in this business right now And there's a couple things and I don't think any bit in mainstream whenever you hear about vaping it's always you know It blew up, and they took the guy's nose off and his face off and Now hardware was these shows barely have

1:15:48 Hardware sales, but there's a couple of them. But really the Chinese have cornered the market on On the actual vaporizers and then that's how we make sense to me They have blanketed that and this could you know? There's no money to be made in that although there's a lot of guys making mods You know handmade beautiful wood mods mods yes called a mod so if what it is yeah It's mod version 3 really third generation So this is all about and that's why your clip is so interesting the e-liquid which in the industry jargon, Is known as Juice does it get any better? Oh my gosh Can you see that juice and so it's good. It's all about Since the juice itself is pretty much everyone is doing the same thing You've got your flavors. You got your fruity flavors. You got your custard flavors There was one outfit I thought wasn't interesting

1:16:43 twist, they have yogurt flavors and it tastes like yogurt. Have you tried? I tried everything! Oh yeah, you can try to be trade everything... You walk in the bottom so it's the ground floor of the big hall on the ground floor John it was blue The whole place was just blue from vape smoke. It's not smoke, it's vape! Well they had to eventually... this is before the show opened because you know Dexter is a dealer distributor or whatever and those are appropriate words so everybody basically has the same type of stuff

1:17:20 it's all about the branding and the packaging. So you've got the crazy, clown juice line which is just like a... So there are different lines? Oh yeah! Everyone is... It's all about the juice and the reason why. And you see these people while you see like the kind of Middle Eastern Israeli-like guys big stomachs, you know walking on comfortable shoes with the slubby outfits. These are the guys who always get into drug dealing early and this is right now it's still legal drugs because you can make up these liquids pretty much in your kitchen. You don't need to be a high-end scientist to put this together for a 30 milliliter bottle

1:18:06 It probably costs you depending on how in the scale that you're making it probably cost you about 50 cents a bottle Wholesale they go for between five and eight and you know retail. You're talking, you know north of $10 ten bucks for 30 milliliters Yes, sir, and so but there are people moving 20 thousand bottles a week And everybody there has tattoos, you know the black cut off pants at the knee. It's like a wild west and they're all rolling in money! There is tons and tons of money now Of course we have legislation on the horizon and the AVA had a booth and I hung out there for that That's the American Vape Association Because the 2009 Tobacco Control Act Is about to be re-examined

1:18:56 And what this would do is it would require an SE, a substantial equivalence application for every single vape liquid introduced to the market after 2007. Which is pretty much all of them and you know for one flavor one nicotine strength you know every single new product line the SE applications cost between two and ten million dollars to move through the FDA. So what you also saw... That would put a crimp in things? It would put a big crimp in things, and what a lot of people are doing is no longer putting the nicotine in which doesn't seem to be a requirement for most of the users that really the nicotine is not such a big deal this is my observation so there is a house resolution bill HR 2058 which would stop the FDA from banning e-cigarettes and vapor products

1:19:48 and you can go to the American Vapor Association to find out more. But what was interesting about that is everyone just as flush with cash, and the Chinese were there as well, the Chinese ramping up as quickly as possible with their liquids now just on that tobacco control act and resolution, the tobacco companies they actually want vaporizers to be in the marketplace What they want on top of that is that no one else can get into the game. That's why you know, that the SE fee of two to ten million dollars so all these little guys would be... Yeah, that's how free market capitalism works. Use government to screw free market capitalism. Exactly!

1:20:31 Dexter had a buddy of his along. This guy was, this guy by the way was an amazing guy he's a chemist and He has a different business although he and Dexter have been friends but this guy knows everything...he works for Diageo and Johnson & Johnson His main line of work Was research in smell and taste, which is of course huge in these companies. But now he is selling ISO 9001 and FDA compliance in anticipation of new laws coming onto the books so he would walk over to the Chinese guys and say well you know you're gonna get screwed and they would sign a contract with him right there for huge amounts of money for him to certify them

1:21:19 in ISO 9001 practices, people are buying up old pharma facilities and doing anything they can to at least be as compliant as possible. It's just it's insane the amount of money that is being spent this guy though he's famous and I learned something you know he had a very funny story about his dad is a very famous fisherman in the UK And, uh... he went into the family business for a while. And if you go to YouTube and look for largest alligator gar ever caught- and I didn't even know what an alligator gar was! Fish isn't it? Yeah it's the fish with the head of an alligator. Yeah horrible looking thing. 203 pounds! These things are crazy!! This is really outrageous fish, I've never seen this before John. Yeah they're horrible looking. Alligator Gar.

1:22:12 So, of course I picked up a few products. I got a whole bunch of juice that I'm testing out. I got a big vapor shark which is the Rolls Royce of the mods. Okay, but yeah you were selling mods there. Oh, they're made well vapor shark is a you know those guys Well no mod doesn't mean that you modify it yourself necessarily It's just the term for anything That's no longer an e-cigarette or a pelican or vape pen so the mods are the big batteries lithium ion battery this thing is crazy You can turn up to 200 watts which will probably burn out your element but now what was cool is The entire

1:22:55 Now, you know what a trade show is like. You're walking around and you've got that carpet and you're really tired after a day of walking the floor particularly if your vendor there were some guys... How many vendors do think there were on the floor? Easily 100. Okay, and then where their lectures and stuff going on in the side? Not lectures, but smoke-blowing competition There are a bunch of rooms with people giving no there may have been but I didn't okay not that I noticed Okay, but someone and was probably the Chinese because these are Chinese things brought in and a huge shipment of unbranded smart scooters

1:23:40 Now, and I had to buy one. It's a couple hundred bucks. The Smart Scooter this is these new kind of Segway type devices that you stand on. Yeah and you go zooming around. Yeah it's very much like a segway And so... It doesn't have anything you can hold on to. Right, but it's really- you really don't need it. It's a fantastic device You can do what? You can run out without falling on your butt? Yep! Yeah I got within five minutes and was all over the place Okay oh god Really We need a video of this. Okay, we need to video you the tall six foot four guy 51 years old on one of those little things not a problem and going around Zooming down the street and turning it around and coming back the other way But I like so much though. I'll put it in the newsletter that you know This is so the Chinese man You know they're just flooding the market with this And as I said there's these are these were unbranded So they were very cheap

1:24:39 But the manual that comes with this, this is Changlish. This Chinese English in these manuals is hilarious. You don't even bother trying! Listen to a couple lines here... Page 1 Do not drive smart too young or too old Please wear safety equipment while driving Do not drive smart under the influence of alcohol or other non-conscious situation Hey man, I'm unconscious. Don't put me on that thing. Tip! Overweight people is hard to drive steady Yeah? That's what she said This is so good If you cannot drive smart skillfully don't drive it at crowded place or any other dangerous place Thanks for the tip, gyners Especially for through entrance or somewhere with barrier please take care head safety to avoid bruising hair

1:25:35 In case of emergency, please ensure your own security. I mean these guys are great! I think there's a market for helping the Chinese translate things into English. No, that market has been long since established and the Chinese refuse to use it. They just say, ah no we got Bill over here he can speak yeah he is good at English you do it free cheaper. Do not drive... The best price! Best price as what it is? Do not drive scooter if your weight over 100 kilograms otherwise it will cause fall injuries in the processing of use or more serious accidents

1:26:12 Do not drive scooter if your weight less than 20 kilos right did you're less than 20 kilos your fetus? Shouldn't be on this thing actually 40 pounds or a 45 yeah Anyway, then on the way home Because it's two and a half hours. I'm listening to my favorite new media outlet Sirius Channel 127 progress Yeah the progressive status progress yes and Who am i listening to Thaum Hartman. And Thaum, it was very interesting he totally made the connection I have a clip with this professor he had on Dr.. Peter Bregan talking about the correlation between mass shootings and The perpetrators being on SSRI drugs What was and this went on for half hour? You know and I'll play a little bit of it He never

1:27:14 could make the connection between this not being in the news and the fact that these are the largest advertisers of all of them. He couldn't, he could not make the connection John! It was astounding that he could not see that now maybe you know I mean, he hoping to get drug companies to sponsor his show. Maybe because the only sponsors I heard were like, you know, buy gold and other things. Yeah. Those yeah. Rinky Dink sponsors. Let's listen to a little bit because I thought it was well worth listening to. And this is something you can send to your, you know, your friends who are all on board with let's get rid of the guns instead of looking at this very important aspect of the situation. So my understanding of the mechanism of action here

1:27:59 and and the reason why it seems that so many of these shooters have been on ssr i drug selective search on a reuptake inhibitor drugs as opposed to other kinds of anti anxiety drugs like the benzodiazepines for example the old valley in my drugs is that by inhibiting the reuptake of serotonin, what SSRI drugs do is they increase... The theory is they increase brain levels of this neurotransmitter serotonin. but the body senses the fact that this certain levels are too high and so it starts growing new uh... whatever the cells are that that uptake you know they dissolve out the serotonin to maintain normal levels and you know because the bodies always try to achieve homeostasis and that's a the mechanism of addiction and be the mechanism or part of my cousin by which they'll allow i was returned the people's affect that their emotions are flattened do i have a right

1:28:57 Yeah, you got it basically right. About as good a summary as I've heard on the air there are three different mechanisms which fight the effect of SSRIs and actually drive down the stimulating effect that the drug is having on this serotonin producing a very unstable unpredictable state And that results in a lot of different emotions that lead to violence. Sometimes, really quite often the people become flat as you mentioned and they lose their empathy, their caring but at the same time there's something about these drugs that agitates people in a terrible way and often makes them feel very very violent and very disturbed

1:29:41 And then finally, among the various clinical syndromes this produces it actually can cause psychosis of a man of kind with violence. I'm sorry. Looking at the Har- looking at Columbine, looking at Aurora those young men were in manic like psychoses and caused by this. So we have about a minute and half left here sir We are... I mean why get to the bottom of it? You know everybody's pointing out that fact that we're 5% of world population And we have 50% of guns in civilians hands on entire planet earth you

1:30:34 funding for the whole pharmaceutical industry. We get more of the drugs and we pay more for the drugs, and I think as a third factor that we probably watch a lot more violent video games than the rest of the world. Now this is typically... you know there's been as far as i know studies have shown no correlation between real-world violence in video game violence however... None whatsoever! However SSRI induced players and video games. I don't know if that's ever been researched, and this guy makes a claim which could be the possibility. It was with the biggest consumer of everything... And you put together the availability of the guns with the stimulating effect of the drugs, and then the fact that a lot of these youngsters are getting heavily involved in the video games... Right But he could never put it together! He could not put that last bit together

1:31:28 that the reason why this is... The bit we put together five years ago? Yeah, that this is rampant because and no one will discuss it on the mainstream because they're the largest advertisers. And sure, the guys who make SSRI's they make all kinds of stuff and that's what being advertised everywhere! Everywhere! Yeah, and I'm sure that the 20 thousand listeners to that channel whatever it is 240 whatever the heck 127. I may have been the only listener John who you know maybe in the only listener That's true There's a lot of I mean there's so much selection on Sirius XM that Why you'd listen to Thom Hartmann as a mystery?

1:32:14 I need to listen to Thom Hartmann. No, I said why anybody would. Oh why anyone? You're doing it for the show Yeah yeah of course am or Sam And well let's just stick on the war on crazy for a moment and the guns because I think this is where we bring The Ben Carson thing in With a quick side note that the University of Texas Austin is creating a protest As you probably are aware The governor, I think he has signed into law that the UT campus will no longer be a gun-free zone. Which makes sense here in Texas Everyone's up in arms they're freaking out and they will be protesting with the Cox not Glocks which means students will be walking around with dildos attached to their backpacks

1:33:05 And there is a connection between that and guns somehow? Is it just a joke connection maybe? Yeah, that's it. Cox not Glocks That is the joke connection Why are they promoting Glocks? How about Smith & Wesson? Yeah well... Maybe Glock themselves did it I don't know That is what they're going to come up with Very funny at least its humorous Kind of humorous So Ben Carson got screwed Over there. I have the well Ben Carson he got screwed be he this is a true media deconstruction, then could well You want to play the longest clip? I have which is the one the best clip. I have I have to say this is a

1:33:48 There's a bunch of things that took place. There were number of events, there was Carson's commentary which was highlighted by... Brolf. And it came from Brolf. Then there was something that... I'm sorry John? I think we should start with that because the thing... Well, that's what this...I'm just gonna... Okay. The clip I have starts with that. All right. Gotcha. Now, but the reason I want this clip is because this will take everyone up to speed because this is a comprehensive report ABC coverage it has three of the topics at all the networks were playing but none of them put it together into one package Like ABC did. And this is a long clip, well... That's okay! But it's the...

1:34:32 I was stunned because everybody did this. Everybody went after Carson, all the networks. And let me just say they went after Ben Carson and said Ben Carson said if the Jews had guns Hitler wouldn't have killed them all that was what the abbreviated version right? And it became a huge to do you know and brought in other stories ABC put it all together in one package beautifully. Bound of controversial comments made by Ben Carson after what he said when asked about the Oregon school massacre and guns. Today, Dr Ben Carson and his new statements this time when asked about what he'd written before about the Holocaust suggesting had Germany not had such tight gun restrictions the Holocaust might have been avoided there would've been more guns ABC's Tom Yamas on the campaign trail

1:35:21 Tonight, Dr. Ben Carson taking his pro-gun stance to another level writing in his book that the Holocaust would have been less likely if Jews were armed But just clarify If there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time would 6 million Jews have been slaughtered? I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would've been greatly diminished if people had been armed The Anti-Defamation League calling Carson's comments historically inaccurate Carson outspoken against gun control since last week's massacre at an Oregon Community College, writing on Facebook... Wow. And repeatedly insisting he would have rushed the shooter if put in a similar situation

1:36:07 just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say, hey guys everybody attack him he may shoot me but he can't get us all." But now Carson revealing what he did when he was once confronted by a gunman in a fast-food restaurant... He did not rush the shooter. The guy comes in puts the gun to my ribs And I just said, I believe that you want the guy behind the counter. Oh so you just redirected him to... Today Carson asked about that on CNN That sounds counter to what your recommending right now That's a completely different situation This is somebody who comes into us adjoint it, not somebody who's sequentially killing people. But you didn't know he was just going to rob the joint? I did know that. He potentially could have killed you! I didn't know that. But Gorson in second place getting some support today from frontrunner Donald Trump. He made a statement essentially that if there were some maniac over there shooting people, he'd charge. Okay They said oh that's terrible that's disrespectful to the people they would kill and

1:37:04 And I didn't see it that way. and much else, but later Murdoch tweeting apologies no offense meant personally find both men charming. The other man of course David President Obama back to you Tom Yamas live in Nevada tonight Tom thank you all right I have done some research on this where do you want to start? Okay before we do that can i make a couple comments about what was said please do I have the clip of what would the full clip of what he said with Brolf one of the things that they brought the news guy brought in

1:37:53 After Carson said, if the Jews were armed to the teeth that things would have gone differently. They threw this gratuitous line in there just to kind of... I think it's one of those tricks you use, you just throw something... It's a non-sequitur. You throw in and let people go into their subconscious and say, oh, these guys are fucked up idiots." It's the anti-defamation League. Yeah, yeah once you get what Carson said was historically inaccurate He is not talking about history he's talking about a hypothetical How can I hypothetical be historically inaccurate this is now this meme has been around for a while? It's called well the way salon magazine wrote it up a couple years ago. It's called the Hitler gun control lie first of all

1:38:41 And to make an argument saying something wouldn't have happened if something else had happened is impossible to prove. But one way or the other, yeah. And you know, Snopes says this is mostly bogus...so the historical context is in 1919 was it 19? I think the Weimar Republic not 1919, The Weimar Republic had banned all guns at a certain point. No one could have a firearm at all and then when the Nazis came into power, they actually softened the gun law and allowed people to have guns but specifically said Jews can't have guns...specifically

1:39:22 But the way Carson, the context of Carson's comment which was nicely obfuscated by that report you just played is a little different. This is from his book wherein he writes about guns and he mentions several instances where totalitarian fascist governments disarmed the public before going after them and taking over. So here's a little bit more of the context, and you can hear how Brolf, of course big friend of Israel took took this out of context and really created this meme.

1:40:11 Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance. That sounds a little different than, eh, bae the Jews should have had guns So what is the point you're trying to make? If there had been gun... there might not have been a holocaust? my point is that was only one of the countries i mentioned. there were a number of countries where tyranny reigned and before it happened they disarmed the people, that was the point noah webster said when he was talking about tyranny that the people of america would never suffer tyranny because they are armed

1:40:48 So, but just clarify if there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time would six million Jews have been slaughtered? I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed. Because they are a powerful military machine as you know the Nazis. Well understand them. They could've simply gone and they did go and wipe out whole communities But realize it was reason that took the guns first right Okay so If you go back I almost want you to play it again. But there's a spot where he explains that this is talking about the number of tyrannies and what Webster said, Noah Webster... And then Brolf rephrases and develops a new question as on...and then he did it twice. He actually did two of them.

1:41:39 Normally, if you're interviewing a guy about something and you're being fair after he explains why this was written and what it was about. It's about taking guns away from Americans is not about what happened to the Jews exactly. And so he would have said okay that explains what you were talking about then go on to the next topic but instead Brohlf asked a very specific question to elicit a very specific response and then did a variation of the exact same thing again to create a sound bite that could be used as a hit piece vehicle. And this was a complete setup... Adam, big set up. One of the worst and I never heard that whole thing because I didn't buy it or what... That's the beauty of it. The whole piece is when put in context he didn't say what he's being accused of and I heard from my Arkansas millennial contact all

1:42:30 all of her Jewish friends hate Ben Carson now, which is what you want. You want the Jews hating the blacks? The blacks hating the Jews? Thank you! Congratulations!" Well I would say that well Carson's very naive about this when he should have stopped. That's not right there but that's not the point and i don't know why here's where i do it That's not the point, and I really don't know why you're going in this direction. Are you implying something? If it is...if you are tell me what it is." Then throw the questioner into the point of having to answer questions even though a good questioner will say well yeah I'm not here to be answering questions I am here to ask the questions and then the whole thing falls apart so but no Carson fell right into it. He fell for it. And he fell into both of them!

1:43:11 And, but I did like he got a little bit of fire on Good Morning America with Stephanopoulos. But you suggested maybe arming more people even kindergarten teachers are more guns really the answer? You know there's a whole series of things that needs to be done. One of the problems with people in the media is they pick one little thing and they say that your philosophy on this which is a bunch of crap! Hey, he actually got a temperament there for a minute. It's a bunch of crap! It's a bunch of crap! Oh media no good!" Sorry Ben you lost out that doesn't work it doesn't work to blame the media people don't understand it. A little thing and they say that that's your philosophy on this which is a bunch of crap You know we're sophisticated individuals

1:43:58 And, you know it's going to be a multifactorial solution to this. We're gonna have to study these people see if there are any commonalities or some early warning signs we need to empower mental health professionals. SSRIs! And finally how about this news about the House Speaker Kevin McCarthy? You praised him for putting others before himself but other Republicans like Congressman Peter King saying this turbulence in the house looks absolutely crazy... Okay fine But here is what interesting with Murdoch's tweet clearly saying, hey Ben Carson. All right! The good guy It's a little convoluted by the real black American president You know that I think that was taken the wrong way But I believe that Murdoch was happy about the gun and the Jews comment witness prominent rabbi in the EU from Paris... let me see where is he from?

1:44:53 This is Rabbi Menachem Magolan. He has... Here, what am I reading from? This is Israeli national news so I don't know how credible it is or Israeli producers will let me know. Rabbi Menachem Magolan wrote to the governments of all EU member states urging a change in the law to allow special gun permits for Jews at risk They're agreeing with him! They're agreeing with him, and of course Murdoch's a Jew. And he's agreeing with Carson as well! That's the crazy part! Is Murdoch a Jew? Yeah I think so... I think he's Episcopalian. I thought he was a Jew. Well you will, I'm gonna find out. Because i'm reading the Murdoch biography and it doesn't come up in the conversation. Hmmmm.... Welllll.....I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm not sure about that

1:45:53 Why? I don't know why i thought that. Well, I could give you some guesses of why you'd think that. Okay Because he owns media? Because he owns media! The Jews own all the media. Except for the Noah Janissary show so he's alright. Hold on a second, hold on a second. You can say that I'm real... I'm real... Religion Christian It says He has Jewish ancestors Catholic Okay All right, then I'm wrong. Here is Jew or not Jew? Rupert Murdoch Let's see... He was an Episcopalian but his wife was Catholic and so he now has put down... According to some out there Rupert's great-great grandmother Carolyn Jemima Sherson was Jewish Okay well that's quite a stretch all right But the rabbi

1:46:47 Not Jewish the rabbi definitely Jewish. Yes, I would hope so Definitely Jewish but yeah Carson got totally boned and It was in full keep bone. Yeah, exactly the best way to put it Yeah, he fell right into it because he's he's not I don't think the guy I don't know I'm not a big fan of I'd never was a big fan of his always thought he was a Ben Carson dummy. Yeah He impresses the Republicans because he seems intellectual because he talks slow and he's thoughtful. And, you know, it doesn't just blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. He's not like Trump that's for sure but I'm not impressed. So Trump...just moving that along and actually I picked up the magazine a couple of days ago when i was at the HEB. The Heeb?

1:47:37 our local supermarket here in Texas. And I was looking, it's Trump and his family that's the at home with the Trumps, the exclusive people interview people goes inside the opulent and never dull private world of Donald wife Melania and son Barron. And this is just a good looking family? A very good-looking family but there was...and i remember looking at the cover saying there's something strange about it, I can't quite figure it out And the story was okay, it was overly positive I'd say. Now you probably saw the Hispanic woman jump up and go crazy for Trump at his moment. I have the clip that's worth listening to. Colombians for Trump Okay because there is something else that happened in there that was interesting Where are you from? I'm from Colombia! I am Hispanic! And is this a set-up did I ever meet you before? I'm Hispanic but for Mr.Trump we boss him!

1:48:33 That's so great Never met her before. She's amazing You know, you missed the most important part Okay And this is right along with the media The mainstream media discrediting these candidates and when I heard the second part of what happened there which is the clip I have The continuation we fit beautifully together today Then I realized oh yes Of course This all started with a People Magazine So here's the story so I love this story They couldn't have been nicer Nice story right? Couldn't be nicer

1:49:33 But I don't know what happened. They played with my nose, I don't want touching! So i'm looking... What he means is photoshop or...? Somebody photoshopped a picture that's what you were referring to? Yes yes! Now you'll tell me how's my nose right? That fine right? It's beautiful and perfect! I have a wart on the end of my nose. Can you believe it? And I went back, and grabbed the People magazine They have photoshopped him It looks like he has the ugliest wart hanging off the side of his nose John And it's so obviously photoshopped. Bring up a picture right now. Holy crap! You see it? I haven't got it yet, I'm just thinking the whole thing is ridiculous you can't do that Oh its really... It's hideous to look at it And I said oh my god don't have to look Its terrible

1:50:27 That's okay. Because they meant it well. I think they wanted to make me look like Cary Grant, do we remember Cary? And i've always wanted to look like Cary Grant but anyway you are beautiful will you make sure she... All right so he goes on but take a look at the picture yeah I gotta find him He has the- and his- he has a perfectly symmetrical nose in general a pretty good looking nose But then you see they have... it's, they even put shadow in there to make it look like a big ugly ass wart hanging off the right side of his nose. And I don't know what the subliminal effects could be but I certainly don't see any reason to make that Photoshop edit. Huh? Any luck finding the picture? You find it? Yeah got it. Do you see how hideous it looks? Yeah it looks terrible. Well then how come he didn't notice that immediately? Who me or him? You

1:51:26 I told you that when i picked it up, I said this... You saw something was amiss but you didn't... No. Because I went straight into the story So that means he did a really good job is what im saying But it makes him look like an evil witch Yeah Good work People Magazine Time Warner You can't trust anybody CNN Uh-huh Yeah CNN yeah That's what it is Then we have People magazine owned by Time Warner? I think so, yeah. Ah you know they just changed the ownership on this thing a couple times. Could be someone else. Let me look it up Well you look it up and we're going to play a little bit of Trump's continuing message which is important But I see all these young strong men And I'm saying that's a strange migration because they're all men So then I said I wonder why they are not fighting for their country number one

1:52:15 And then you see what's going on in Germany where they're having tremendous problems with what's happening with their women, with these people. And that what's happening and you're seeing your reading the stories I hate to even repeat what's going on so now they want to talk about 200 000 i'm looking at all these men we're gonna bring them into our country we know nothing about him They are not documented They can't give you papers. They don't know anything, we know nothing! This could be one of the great Trojan horses this could make the Trojan horse look like peanuts okay? Now is that the case probably not but the word probably is not acceptable it's not acceptable probably not It's probably not the case but you know what

1:52:56 Why are we taking chances? We're going to spend billions of dollars over a 10-year period. They say it costs billions, and you know I actually said to one and i've said it very strongly because if I'm president And if I win and I become president they are going back they're going back They're going back. So this is Trump's continuing meme, specifically as it relates to Mexicans. He's also saying it here about the migrants, the asylum seekers and possible ISIS terrorists But Trump has started off the entire cycle with, we've got to send the Mexicans back. Undocumented illegal you gotta go back these guys are in gangs they're killing people it's a huge mess and everyone is laughing and oh you horrible hater your total piece of crap how can you say that about Mexicans? Well witness will go back to our little panel here with Comey and Jeh Johnson

1:53:55 completely, 100% corroborate Donald Trump's message about illegal immigrants in particular Mexicans. We talk about the threat from ISIS it's spectacular and we're talking about couple of dozen folks that are here that are major concerns that are here last year with... That's Senator Lankford by the way. He had over 10,000 deaths by heroin on the streets United States hotel rooms, houses on the streets homes people quietly dying from heroin and from narco-terrorists moving into our borders and distributing this incredibly toxic substance across our nation. So whether it's heroin whether it's cocaine whether its marijuana with his methamphetamines is a very strategic move

1:54:40 that's happening and it is extremely aggressive and seems to be accelerating at a pace we haven't seen before. Now remember Donald Trump said the Mexicans are bringing gang violence, drugs everything into our country it has to stop we have to go after them he said the first people I'm sending back are the gang members and now listen to what is happening right now in many areas of certain types We seem to have new locations that these drugs are coming from as well. So can you help me understand the coordinated strategy not only dealing with ISIS and those threats on American soil, but the threats that are coming in from narco-terrorists around the world as well? Both their distribution networks, the interdiction and if we're dealing with new locations and new groups to bring it in how are we coordinating that among the agencies to take that on?

1:55:27 Senator, I can start from the enforcement perspective. Your description is completely accurate and i actually worry that our country's not getting it the way you described it. Recently the acting administrator of the DEA who was a great leader sent over his team to brief me on their current view of the threat and it is breathtaking Cocaine use has gone down since 2006, that's good news. All the rest is not just bad news it's awful and so the strategy from the enforcement perspective is try to disrupt The traffickers right try to lock them up both the big kingpins in Mexico, which is where this is coming from Oh gee and to disrupt their there at the gangs and organized criminals. They're using to distribute it United States Oh the goal being to try to drive up the price to be honest what's happening? Hey hold on a second We'll have none of that call me as heroin is so cheap and so pure that its

1:56:20 It's a tidal wave washing over children and killing them because they don't know how pure it is. So that's the strategy from the law enforcement perspective, drive up the cost by locking up as many of these people as we can We seem to have supply coming from new areas as well. Are you seeing new players internationally that are trying to actually get supply to the United States? Interesting, could it be from somewhere else this epidemic that is washing over us? I mean Mexico's obviously a very close neighbor they're pushing all the way through North America all the way to Canada Are there other locations that you've seen on the horizon that you would say this is a new region that we haven't dealt with as much but they're trying to transport it to United States? Please tell me Donald Trump can be right. Please tell me its not just Mexico, please please please! The big focus is Mexico because what's happened is Mexican traffickers have figured out they can do better

1:57:11 By instead of bringing Colombian heroin or heroin from some other place in the United States and transport it... Whoa, hold on a second. He said heroin from some other place in the United States? Would that be the poppies that we bring in from Afghanistan they're cutting into our supply here? No. We have to go after these Mexicans. Listen to this. by instead of bringing Colombian heroin or heroin from some other place in the United States and transport it to the United States, they're growing it in southern Mexico. They're growing the poppies, they're refining themselves so its just a business. They've just shortened their transportation routes, they dropped their cost so that can sell at lower costs and higher purity And so is that domination and then the other piece which is a plague on the west is methamphetamine

1:57:57 They're making it in huge factories in Mexico again. They're not bringing in from Columbia or any other place anymore So that the center ground zero for this plague on Across the drugs is Mexico Oh Donald Trump is right well you'd be right all he wants not gonna help him help his cause I know that but still He's right, I still sense that Carly Fiorina somehow is the one behind this slams because she's the only one who benefits with if Carson gets kicked out of that race. Oh yeah and she's a bad actor, she doesn't have a prayer either it is all Bush. It's gonna be fun to watch how Bush goes from this hanging around and hanging around to winning

1:58:48 And it's all because this system is corrupt. I have two more clips for the election cycle if you're interested, and if you have anything Not so much Okay Here's a quick update on Hillary new details in the Hillary Clinton email investigation The AP the Associated Press reporting this morning that Clinton's private email server was the target of attempted cyber attacks from China South Korea and Germany the attacks came after her time as Secretary of State and were apparently blocked by by security software, but the report says there was a three-month period after Clinton left the administration when that protection wasn't installed. Meaning the server was potentially vulnerable." Yeah well of course... It's been hacked big time Well I was also going to say that you know I run my own email server and the potential attacks yeah they're from getting from China all the time they're always probing ports are always trying to get... If they knew it was Hillary Clinton's I think they'd put more effort into it

1:59:43 I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying the report is specious at best by saying, oh well it was every email server is under attack all the time but all the time. It's always going on so... All right and then today or yesterday today I believe is the big celebration that we missed out on and I should be there myself, but I'm not. And the DPRK has their 50th anniversary party in Pyongyang or in the Kim Jong Il Square or wherever it is there you know it's a big it's like May Day thing used to happen in Russia and I think they still do

2:00:22 Now, there's two different reasons. Everyone is... A bunch of our people are going over this. The triple guy says CBS is sending a guy and he gave this report. This is CBS and DPRK and this report is so slanted in I want to comment on these two. I got two reports here one from the DPRK one from China. And I mean sorry one from since DPRK meant CBS party. And that gave Seth Doane a rare opportunity to look inside the Hermit Kingdom The trip is carefully choreographed. We board buses and are told where we're headed North Korea gets media coverage for its upcoming military parade, and we get a glimpse inside this infamously secretive country to stop a look at the metro with its conductors chandeliers and piped in patriotic music

2:01:15 This is hardly just a casual stop at the subway. It is a deliberate effort to show us infrastructure at work One of the things Kim Jong-un has said is that he wants to improve people's everyday life. The question is, Is that really happening? Determining that is a tough task with government assigned minders who monitor our every move How about this lady here I think she doesn't like it too much But we haven't asked Can we ask? The power of the government is clear Many, including children wear pins depicting former leaders. Why do you want to wear Kim Il-sung? This is my heart. Do you wear that pin every day? This doesn't get off in even one hour

2:02:05 They have loosened some restrictions compared with our last trip about two years ago. For instance, now we're able to take video from the bus however when the bus driver made a wrong turn through a rather run-down residential neighborhood there was a scramble Scott to get us out of there. A scramble? A scramble! Because there's no such thing as a run down neighborhood in St Louis or Cleveland or Chicago Austin or Austin or Austin, Texas are any place in the United States. There's no such thing We don't have run neighborhoods No So they freak out when we drive the bus into the rundown this report showed nothing Although it did show the cool Metro station which was very interesting so we switch over to a longer report and I hate that make it play the whole thing but this is a concise report from the Chinese of

2:02:56 outfit. And they put a very, they make a very interesting point which is more or less a pat on the back to the no agenda show by the time this is done." Vice President Liu Enqiao has attended the celebration activities held by the DPRK's embassy in Beijing For more on the DPRK celebration, we want to go live to our correspondent Tony Cheng who's in Pyongyang now. Thanks for joining us there Tony! What more can you tell us about the anniversary celebration there? Well, not an awful lot frankly. Everything is being kept very much under wraps this evening There have been signs all over the city of Pyongyang today that preparations are underway We've seen large movements of people in processions coming in on large buses one imagines from outside

2:03:47 We're still waiting to find out exactly what time we're going to be taken from our hotel to the procession tomorrow. rain tonight and tomorrow morning so the authorities may well be pushing it back slightly because of the weather. But as with many things here in the DPRK, things are generally kept under wraps we are expecting however as you mentioned a very large parade mainly focused on military parade again we're going to be seeing the goose stepping soldiers going through the center Kim Jong-il Square

2:04:28 through the center of Pyongyang, followed by tanks artillery and possibly most interestingly those large missile carriers that we've seen in the past. And what's the mood there Tony? What about international perception of the event? Everyone is happy! I think everyone's very keen obviously that this goes very smoothly. Obviously the DPRK is very famous for putting on these sorts of events, incredibly well coordinated, incredibly well planned There's a certain level of excitement too. And interestingly, what I've seen this time which i haven't seen previously is very large numbers of tourists coming in to witness these events and I think now that access is slightly easier to the DPRK than it has been in the past many people are keen to come from overseas to see this spectacle so

2:05:19 They're all getting rather excited and they're staying in the hotel that we are in as well. But I think, yeah everyone again very keen that this goes smoothly it will have been coordinated and highly orchestrated so one would imagine there'll be very little left to chance. Ah yes! That was your thesis that you brought a long long time ago that North Korea wants to be a tourist destination. And I'll tell you this, when the CBS guy gave his snooty report... Right? He didn't mention that! No of course he didn't mention that and he's been there before apparently and when he was showing the street scenes and the subway in particular people coming in and out The people were dressed a lot more casually than Western

2:06:05 the kind of clothes they wear in China, which is Western clothes. Very casual clothes not uniforms and it was a colorful group It looked a lot different than it did a couple years ago or even when they were doing those shows that Vice Magazine was doing So things are improving This guy's not a slouch Yeah and you know they have that whole ski resort that they wanted to set up I guess the Swiss wouldn't send them the new ski lifts But you know this boils down to one thing John. It's very obvious what has to happen Yes, I love Rondly. Hi. I robbed wrongly I have to go to Korea Yeah, don't drop we need an eye love laundry tour in Korea. We gotta get over there yeah with the airstream Yeah, I rubbed Ron Lee at the air stream over there that would break the show especially kind of results we got today

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2:13:27 Okay, oh yes. Finally! Finally finally finally we're going to find out John. We just sent another rocket up on Thursday and that will deploy... it already has deployed a new amateur radio satellite which is a lot of fun That's my next on my bucket list is to communicate via one of these satellites, these transponder satellites. Yeah yeah But there's another... so it's quite simple to put these CubeSats in orbit and there's a group of kids I think they're in Russia and they have an idea which I wholeheartedly support It seemed to be half a century since humanity made that proverbial giant leap to the moon

2:14:09 Well that was then, back to the here and now. Decades on after that Apollo mission a group of Russian space enthusiasts and engineers are embarking on a quest of their own They're planning to send a micro-satellite to the moon To get some real high resolution footage Of the remains of that American landing Well thats' the theory at least Here's how they came up with the idea As a blogger, I talk to lots of people on the Internet about Cosmos and have noticed that it is a frequent topic. If the Americans flew to the Moon or not? Was Apollo on the Moon or not? All points have already been made by both sides – some believe they did not fly, others claim they did. And no one can actually convince each other! I was so bored with listening about the flag, the ground, the rockets… So, I thought, guys let's just fly there and have a look. We can argue forever.

2:14:56 The moon hasn't gone anywhere. If the Americans have actually been on the moon, everything should still be there! Let's stop wasting time on the Internet. We'd better collect money, build a satellite and have a look ourselves Researchers now then crowdfunding their project. Seems they've already gathered $15,000 which is supposedly enough to complete the project Why? Well because they say no booster rockets needed that's usually the most expensive part The engineers instead plan to tag their lightweight micro module onto a government-financed satellite Yeah these guys better not be jumping any hot tubs out of celebration That might end well for them

2:15:34 Well, luckily they hit the spot where this guy's supposedly landed. I like the idea of this could end is it fine? I think it's a gag Why is it a gag these satellites are launchable yeah, don't say that just sounds like up like a like a house Okay, okay here so here's a little entremont Did you hear this story? This is the CBS report on the Airbus patent. Mmm, I don't think... This seems like a hoax too but it probably is a real patent And maybe not such a good idea have a look at this Airbus has filed for a patent for a split-level airliner cabin two tiers of seats that lie flat like bunk beds That's in business class No telling how they're gonna stack them up and coach

2:16:25 Okay, like that. I think funny came up with where you're standing and then strapped in yeah So you push a whole bunch of people because it's all the leg root of you because you get to when your seat seated It shoes up too much space I Love it very good so we had more testimony but I watched a lot of C-SPAN as you can tell I do love doing that watch some c-span and on the heels of new manufacturers being implicated in cheating emissions testing. We now have added Mercedes, Honda, Mazda and Mitsubishi along with the Volkswagen group of companies who have cheated emissions. Once again no American manufacturers in this list which is... And I think it's also pointing out since this is not getting as much publicity at all

2:17:20 Volkswagen, US CEO. Volkswagen and Germany. This is big F-Germany time. The Germans are full tilt they are doing the second North Stream now with the Russians which will bypass Poland screw you Poland if you don't get any piece of that but the Volkswagen CEO Michael Horn was up on the hill and he He brought out Americans, the American CEO. He's the American CEO? Yeah he apologized! These events and I fully agree on this are deeply troubling. I did not think that something like this was possible at the Volkswagen Group we have broken the trust of our customers dealerships employees as well as the public and regulators And you gotta hand it to this guy but there is something beautiful about the German mentality just saying okay we screwed up were not going

2:18:12 Pussyfoot around. We did it, we're guilty, we're wrong! Let me be very clear. We at Volkswagen take full responsibility for our actions and we are working with all the relevant authorities in a cooperative way After that study by West Virginia University, isn't it true that VW told the EPA and the California board that the increased emissions were due to technical issues and unexpected in-use conditions? Yes. And those representations at that time were in fact incorrect and false, weren't they sir? Yes. Yes they were now to your knowledge did anybody at the Volkswagen Group of America know at that time that in fact those discrepancies were due to these defeat devices when they made those representations to the regulators? To my knowledge at this point of time no. No one in the US did?

2:19:09 But isn't it true that the technology was installed in the automobiles at least initially because the cars could not meet the new more stringent admission standards for diesel engines Yes to your last question this appears to be this way This appears to be this way so damn, you know all out almost like a Japanese confession I was waiting for a Harakiri moment. He's hoping to kill himself right on the spot instead He blames it on the dude's name Ben. This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reasons Do you really believe? Whatever reasons Listen to the follow-up question This was a couple of software engineers who put this in for whatever reasons do you really believe as good As well run as Volkswagen has always been reputed be that senior level

2:20:04 Corporate managers, administrators had no knowledge for years and years? I agree it's very hard to believe. Yes! The dude named Hans did it. Hans and Franz blame it on the engineers wow that's pretty low That was that's pretty low man I think Hans why not? Blame it on them you know they don't Hans and Franz did it always get work yes, oh Here's another thing that's important for us

2:20:44 Yes, the FAA and I follow this closely of course is late. They are now a couple months late in delivering their ruling on drones and how they can be used in airspace in the United States. And you have two categories, well there's three categories of drones but you have the under 55 pounds over 55 pounds and then I submit that there is the war machinery drones that are just aircraft, you know just large scale aircraft And they have yet to deliver a ruling. And meanwhile, as a pilot I am all for some form of regulation but probably certification you know if your flying in public airspace and your flying these things around You should know how it works How the rules on the road work so to speak They've been talking about needing at least a sport pilot license certification

2:21:43 But they're late. They have not come to the table, they're dragging their feet... I'm not sure why but Congressman... Why? They can't afford it. Can't afford what? What they're gonna have to do which is licensing that's an expensive proposition. No but why is the FAA dragging their heels on coming up with this regulation? Because they know it's going to cost them... It's gonna ruin their budget. That's the only thing I can think of. It's not gonna ruin their budget! No, just give more budget. I don't know why they're dragging their heels, but Representative Micah he's almost wishing in fact you just listen to what he does here and this questioning. What? I missed this part hold on a second ago and the rule came out in February so you've had February March April May June July August September we're just into October So you've had eight months to finalize that rule

2:22:46 And now you're saying that and the rule does a real rule just deal with the small aircraft? Small UAS under 55 pounds. Under 55 pounds because I think we allowed a differentiation between small and large, um...and You at least the testimony I've heard is sometime in 2016 Can you be more specific with some time So the comment period was open until April of this year. We've had over 4,500 comments and we're adjudicating those comments and our internal objective is to get the rule out of FAA by the end of this year then it will go through the review process at DOT and OMB

2:23:31 And our last time you and I discussed this February, March April? Yeah get to it. Last time we discussed the point we agreed on a date of June 17th and i think that's still a solid date We should be able to beat that So not till next June It should be in the first half of next year Uh huh What about large? So the development of large UAS integration is going to depend In large part on commercial demand and also in large part on technology So that will develop as technology develops and the demand develops. I think what that means is maybe they want to fold this into the next gen system, so if the technology improves where the next-gen systems work where drones can fly as a part of the system? But I think that's what he means by the technology. Well again, I'm disappointed What will probably propel this may be actually propel yours

2:24:25 Your schedule is going to be a very serious accident and incident. I can almost predict there will be one, there are just so many of these now flying that it's almost inevitable that we have a drone hit an aircraft and there will be probably injuries and hopefully not fatalities. It sounds like someone gave him a piece of paper that said here's what we're playing with, hey boss! Hey boss! He does it again, boss! Boss boss boss if you can have the fatalities maybe boss? And this these drones are up to 55 pounds I remember going to a testing center when they would throw like a 40 pound

2:25:07 frozen bird or something into an aircraft engine and I saw what that did. These can do as much damage, you know, I don't need another test to show what would happen but it probably will happen maybe that will speed things up. You've had how many incidents? aircraft was on. How many, this is a good question... how many incidents do you think have happened or happen on a regular basis and of course they don't really define the incidents but incidents that involve aircraft sighting drones and at least calling out an emergency situation because of them? How many do you think? You're asking me? Yes I'm asking you. 100 per what

2:25:55 So far. With drones that were somewhat serious, is it 200? 400? Captain Carroll do you know? Do you want to revise your answer yet John and you still want the 100 total So we don't keep the record. I'm saying 100 total, the rest are bullcrap. Okay FAA do you know? FAA would have to know they can't lie on roads How many of you had reported? We're at a rate about 100 a month of private reporting. You didn't say a month, you said all time. I said a month! I said 100 a month. Liar! You did not say 100 a month but okay. 1200 a year

2:26:32 And so far you've cited about 20, there's been about 20 enforcement actions. Did I hear that? That involve civil penalties yes. That seems very low. Nice 100 total a month Oh a month you thought that in your head okay a month fine Yes i did yeah it counts A hundred a month...I'm against this It is like oh look there's a drone over here No, no. That's aircraft calling in a situation to air traffic control that's what the 100 months is. Stop this! This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen It is John I'm against the drones and everyone's all horny about drones but screw it you should have some kind of certification The airspace is not just for playing around Yes I agree Okay That was my point Are these drone flying into a jet engine? No especially if your on it

2:27:32 No, especially especially a little update on the clock kid. I didn't know there was an update on well You're right. There's not an update in the clock kid. There's an update on the clock kids father Okay, 14 year old Ahmed Mohammed is still on his world tour gaining recognition for his alleged scientific and engineering capabilities world tour After he was arrested for bringing what some believe was a hoax bomb to school, we've learned Ahmed's father, Sudanese political activist El Hassan Mohamed has two different Facebook pages. One is his personal page where he appears pro-America when asked about

2:28:14 ISIS threatening to kill police officers, he responded quote killing is not right and is prohibited in Islam as Allah mentioned in the Quran if you kill one person without rightness it is as you are killing all mankind but there's also an Arab Arabic Facebook page for the National Reform Party, a political party started by Al-Hassan Mohammed bearing a similar profile picture and address. Only this webpage is much more active and the tone is very different including a 14 minute conspiracy theory clip on the 9 11 terrorist attacks and a post that shows the smoking World Trade Towers describing it as a US sponsored hoax to launch a world war

2:28:55 against Islam and Muslims. We should note Al-Hassan Mohammed has repeatedly run for president of Sudan despite living near Dallas as we're finding out more information about the clock that Ahmed says he built and how some believe he was targeted for his race in religion, the Irving school district says it has information that would shed new light on why he did it but they can't release him because he's a minor and his family would have to sign off on it The problem is the district sent the release form to the wrong lawyer. the Chinese besides digging a hole through Thailand so they can avoid the straits over there. Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi has met his Thai counterpart Dong Pramud Winai in Beijing, they say they agreed to accelerate a joint railway project take a listen

2:29:58 The China-Thailand Railway is the middle route of a transition railway network. Laying the foundation and launching the China-Thailand Railway signal a breakthrough for the transition railway network that has been contemplated for years, it will not only benefit long term development of Thailand but also enable Thailand to perform better as a transport hub in the region's interconnectivity." Mahmoud Wini said Thailand attaches great importance to rail cooperation with China and is ready to make joint efforts to promote an early start of the construction. He also voiced support for China's Belt Road Initiative, and agreed to promote bilateral cooperation within the framework in the spirit of openness and transparency. Yeah those Chiners they're doing it! Everyone is going with this transparency meme.

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2:32:40 There's one that gives us a, about once a month and once every couple of months he sends us a post, a postal money order for the show for $50 or so. And he is in Chelmsburg Illinois that's all I know but he keeps sending his, they're all anonymous we won't put his address or name right? He always comes in as Mark Pugner there's another Mark Pugner who's a subscriber And there's a third Mark Pugner who was grousing about something the other day. And we have people that have been suggesting certain things that we do, in fact, we had a letter and I don't know if you remember it was the Mark Pugner or one of the Mark Pugners or somebody like him who had all these...a list of things that we should do to improve this show and I think I should go over the lists. Did it include you prepping more?

2:33:28 No, curiously. Give us the list! The list was one get rid of all the jingles okay shorten the show to an hour, stop retelling anecdotes and change the banter between the two of us. Okay what are you left with? Nothing! We have no show! An empty mp3 file... we have no show Change the banter If you don't like this show Don't send us these suggestions Well while were on feedback Ever since we covered the VOGUE UN VOGUE

2:34:06 the violence against women and girls at the United Nations with all the, you know, the Celebrities and then the two Gamergate social justice warriors. A message to everybody... Yes! You are right this is all about social justice about cultural Marxism about how things are, you know, about bullying and hate speech. You're absolutely right please refrain from sending me emails of undetermined length pointing this out. There's something so fruity with this Gamergate thing, John where we kind of ignored it in the beginning because people would send us these emails that were like war and peace! The War and Peace Report And now they're doing the same thing with... Here is the UN doing this and here it is because of this We know! It's nothing new You don't have to point it out This is what the United Nations does

2:35:02 Please I get it. I'm just filing him away for historical record be a yes We know this is this has been a long time coming I got a primary gate thing if something we didn't cover for a good reason Yeah, but um I got a positive clip here over at least positive slant from me about from Megyn Kelly Oh Yes, Megan Kelly watching Fox again No no no No, she was on Charlie Rose. Oh... And you'll recall when- Did they talk about her sexuality? Tell me about the sexuality it's in your DNA! That was the first question you are correct. Um no she was saying something that I totally agree with it's a on board with a social justice warrior bullcrap but also you'll recall that I defended Sarah Palin for a long time

2:35:57 But I could not believe how seemingly intelligent women were just making her out to be a slut whore bitch. Completely the antithesis to what feminism is supposed to be about and Megyn Kelly discussed this on Charlie Rose, and I thought it was worth listening too. And I see somebody like Gloria Steinem who you're only a feminist in her world if you believe everything she believes. You know if you're in any way against abortion on demand all the way through the third trimester, you're not a feminist You know, if you don't stand for all of her principles. Look at what she did and what many on the far left did in a feminist cause to somebody like Sarah Palin but she's running for president and where were they when they were asking Sarah Palin whether she could be both...she was running for vice-president...where she could be both vice president and mother to her children?

2:36:44 No one asked that of Barack Obama. That was a sexist question If that had ever been asked of Hillary when she was younger and raising Chelsea, now would have been up in arms about that Steinem the other would have been marching on Washington to say this has got to stop crickets when it happened to a conservative woman. And some actually came out and said, she's less of a woman than some men I know... They try to take your womanhood away from you if you don't walk in lockstep with their beliefs. That is what I mean by the feminism that I reject.

2:37:21 Those feminists would be well served to be a little more open-minded when it comes to left and right in this country so they could get more women into the fold. Now, this is an important tool for those of you who have Obama bot listeners and crazy left wing Republicans or right wing nut jobs, baby killing, don't want to just gun kill everything Go to noagenderplayer.com, find this segment and you can send that link to your friends everyone has empathy at the moment for Megyn Kelly because of the Donald Trump fracas a trumped up fracas to coin a phrase play that for them

2:38:04 No one's gonna do that. I love your positivity, it's just dynamite. Might as well play the little phony baloney piece that was done on one of the 3x3s on Roseburg and this is Obama in Roseburg and there's a little thingy there i have an ISO of it later something he Obama said which never didn't make any sense if you listen to him carefully Now this is uh...the appearance so that It was the editor or the publisher of the local newspaper said, we don't want the president here and were going to have the West Baptist, what are they called?

2:38:48 Yeah, the West Baptist whatever they are those guys would sell or show it up. I know of selling their signs yeah The protesters gathered at the Roseburg Airport carried both signs and guns a potential nightmare for the Secret Service Alan Montgomery made no attempt to hide his holsters is part of your statement here The fact that as I see you've got a couple of guns on you Well, that's not necessarily a statement more than... I saw this. I saw this piece and the guy who was asking that he is such a dick Yeah He like well you got a couple of guns on ya? Is that what you're trying to show? Secret Service Alan Montgomery made no attempt to hide his holsters This is part of your statement here The fact as I see it You've got a couple of guns on ya Well, that's not necessarily a statement more than just my right

2:39:34 As the president's helicopter arrived, many showed their distaste for his call for more gun control. The White House has indicated the President is considering an executive order that would require more gun retailers to conduct background checks in spite of the killings here that remains an unpopular position in this part of Oregon Sally Telford is a gun owner. Our second amendment says no infringement So anybody can have a gun, somebody with mental problems? Yes. Everybody can have a gun to defend themselves so you cant just make us get a background check because somebody might have a mental problem. The president's mobile aid avoided the largest group of demonstrators on his way to Roseburg High School where he met privately with families of all the victims of last week's shooting We're going to have to come together as a country To see how we can prevent these issues from taking place

2:40:28 But today, it's about the families. Eric Dietz is the former husband of shooting victim Kim Dietz and he said to you? He said that when it comes right down to it there are a lot different opinions in our country but really we're a lot more alike than we are different The president's visit to Roseburg was largely confined to the safe secure area in the local high school. And in spite of suggestions that demonstrators would try to block roads, Scott his motorcade came and went without disruption. Okay I saw this report. Westboro is a church.

2:41:09 Well, if you listen to what he says... Listen to this thing that Obama said. This is the ISO on what he said. Just deconstruct what he said I thought i heard him say something about rights. I couldn't quite hear it. No issues Okay, well listen We're gonna have to come together as a country To see how we can prevent these issues from taking place But today, take from these issues from taking place. Yes what he says is he wants to prevent these issues from taking place? Huh good catch! What does that mean yeah well we have to come together as a country to prevent these issues from taking place. What issues could be taking place? Well it was a

2:41:49 I don't know. He's either talking about the gun rights advocates that were all over the place, it must have been in the back of his mind and that's an issue... I do want to remind everybody... The shooting is not an issue! That's a minor issue No, It's not an issue. It's an event. It's not an issue. It's an event. I don't know but I have no idea these issues well we will unfold as it always does We did get a letter from a local Craig Weinberg David just came in this morning and he said, David Jacks the Beacon editor is considered to be a local nut job by many people. The beacon's extremely small publication cropped up trying to be a conservative news source to counter the News Review which is the long established mainstream newspaper. That was good info for us to know that was the guy who was talking about the protests

2:42:37 I do want to remind everyone of the exact text of the Second Amendment, particularly for those outside of the United States who do not understand the Bill of Rights and the amendments in the Constitution. Specifically, the Second Amendment reads a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state comma The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. And this is critical, that it's misunderstood purposefully made to be misunderstood. The Second Amendment is not a gun right It is a specific language that forbids the federal government from infringing upon a right which already existed

2:43:23 Call it God-given or whatever you want, but that is the text. That is the actual text of the amendment shall not be infringed." Yes! That's what that woman said. Infringed... Yeah she said stupid though. She was a stupid moron Why is she a stupid moron? We have to have background checks because they're crazy. That's not a good PR move. Well, that's what they wanted! Yeah well they got that... They shall not be infringed You want to play the refugee update? Will that be the last for us or are we done? I think they can end with that Migrant arrivals in the Greek islands have surged to at least 7000 a day

2:44:06 to beat the onset of winter. More arrived on Lesbos today as the International Organization for Migration reported a sharp increase from September, meanwhile in Italy the first wave of Eritrean refugees departed for Sweden as part of the European Union's new relocation plan this relocation scheme is a really important step towards stabilizing the refugee crisis in Europe It can only work if it takes place at the entry points of Europe and it can only work If robust facilities are created above and beyond what we have in Italy More than half a million migrants have fled to Europe so far this year Unbelievable that the woman says refugees, and then Woodruff comes back with migrants. Yeah, that's unbelievable

2:44:59 I don't know if that's a...I don't know why they're, I dunno. It was News Hour? What do you expect? It's like ISIS-ISIL-IS. It's all more of the same. Word games! There are big differences. There is no difference in definition for all practical purposes with ISIL and ISIS there is a difference between migrant and refugee. Yes Alright then I will play the final one from your state John You have a brand new bill there in California Yeah Jerry Brown Moonbeam Jerry? Yeah, Moonbeam. He signed the renewable electricity bill Did you know this? Probably. California through this bill is taking a major step other people are going to follow but it's not going to be easy and it's not going to come overnight there's no quick one thing you can do, its just gonna be a long march to transition the entire modern world to decarbonize future

2:45:58 It's big, it's important. Yeah! And we're doing it in California. I did it! In general climate change is not news. Oh... It's happening too gradually. It's happening too diffusely so anytime we can get focus on this existential threat We have to do it because it's everywhere and it's just difficult to mobilize the political will when something bad happens we can respond The trouble with climate change, it's a bad happening rather slowly. And if we don't get it in time... It will be very difficult to turn back. It's a bad happening very slowly John! It's a bad happening very slowly is what it is. I'm gonna put pictures of the

2:46:48 Grasslands. Yes, do you want to do a little update for us before we leave? What's happening in the Greenland right now? Hold on hold on will have to be redrawn this is what would happen to San Francisco Bay John C Devorah give us an update The tides end and mudflats are covered with water Thank you. And I'll wrap it all up nicely coming back to your San Francisco 2.0 at the beginning of the show, John today in The New York Times we seem to have a huge issue with all the battery cars out there in San Francisco people are getting into shouting matches and fights at the charging stations? Yeah because they're using their charging stations

2:47:43 One of the reasons is you got one of these battery cars, you drive it to the charging station which is one in five let's say parking spots left in the parking lot because everybody's in the city and you stick a charger in and then you walk and go to work. And eight hours later the car has...you haven't moved your car or maybe not even charging for all you know. It's just fiasco. Yeah what happening is people are unplugging other people's cars They're rolling up just unplugging it and plugging in their own. Yeah, that's the that is the friendly the friendly voice of people who want to save the world by jipping their fellow human beings. Yeah, somebody will be like you buy a three-hour charge and somebody else comes along pulls the charger sticks it in their car and they get three hours of charging while your stupidly going to the store expecting they have something when you get back So bottom line eventually everyone who has one of these battery cars becomes an asshole That's what's gonna happen It's gonna be one big... Becomes? Right

2:48:45 A-holes! Unbelievable. You unplugged my car, man! Hey buddy what do you think you're doing? Well your car's done charging! God I can just see it. That's gonna be great. Heheheheh... Alrighty. Uhhh okay Should i be watching any football today Uh, the Sunday Night Football 49ers. I like to watch because they're so bad it's kind of fun to kinda like chuckle chortle if you watch them fail Alright Watching it... The owner is one of these A-holes and everybody is an a-hole And so its good team to watch lose Okay Sounds like fun It is well yeah because you can't go wrong Alrighty

2:49:34 Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA, we need all the help we can get for Thursday's program We'll be back with more deconstruction for you of the media and uh...of course of the first democratic debate on CNN will probably one of few watching the whole thing That's on Tuesday I believe That's right Tuesday Until then coming to you from downtown Austin here in the Crackpot Condo In the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak by The Bud Flats Will be back Thursday right here on no agenda. Tell me about this sexuality, it's in your DNA I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen And wash your hands after touching any raw meat Flying over Afghanistan

2:50:41 Or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman, child and man That was on my list. I don't care if i missed I'm remote controlled. I do what I am told by someone at a computer Newt or Obama gave me a push, more than Bush and I cost millions. I'm supposed to target terrorists but not so much civilians. I don't know what to say. Whoops! Some got in my... A drone again naturally. A drone again naturally

2:51:32 Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? It's a little harsh, but we gotta live with it. There are rules within the world so you kind of have to follow them I'm a rule follower So if the rule is that we have to do this then I'll do it Adios mofo The best podcast in the universe Dvorak dot org slash N A