Episode 748 · Sunday, 16 August 2015

Lone Rat

A massive air traffic control failure and GPS interference collide with Donald Trump's latest trade strategy and the FBI's new push for encrypted data access.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 56m listen | 51 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 748

About this episode

The Perseid meteor shower on August 16, 2015, coincides with widespread reports of GPS signal interference and Google Maps routing failures. While atmospheric activity is cited as a potential cause, the decline in mapping reliability is increasingly attributed to undisclosed vendor changes and a lack of transparency from Google. Meanwhile, a massive computer glitch at the Leesburg, Virginia air traffic control center grounded thousands of East Coast flights, exposing critical vulnerabilities in the $2.1 billion ERAM automation system.

Political tensions escalate as Donald Trump proposes using billionaire dealmakers Carl Icahn and Henry Kravis to renegotiate trade terms with China. In the Democratic primary, speculation grows regarding Joe Biden entering the race as Hillary Clinton faces scrutiny over a private email server and a golf course meeting between Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. FBI Director James Comey has introduced the term lone rat to rebrand domestic terrorists while calling for encryption in motion to allow law enforcement access to Silicon Valley data. Additionally, the third Greek bailout is criticized as a mechanism for Germany to acquire infrastructure assets through the KFW bank.

Audrey Hepburn faces a modern character critique as a gold digger in a re-evaluation of the cinematic classic Breakfast at Tiffany's. NBC reporter Richard Engel is noted for adopting a high-energy sales cadence reminiscent of infomercial legend Billy Mays during serious news dispatches. The program also explores the absurdity of Al Roker attempting a homemade McRib on The Today Show and the deployment of 96 million shade balls in a Los Angeles reservoir.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

Perseid Meteor Shower, GPS Signal Interference Claims

The Perseid meteor shower on August 16, 2015, is linked to anecdotal reports of GPS inaccuracies and Google Maps routing errors. While some suggest the atmospheric activity caused positioning shifts, skeptics argue that meteor particles are too small to impact satellite signals compared to the ionosphere's general behavior.

perseid meteor shower· gps· google maps· ionosphere· satellite signals

00:00 I'm going to kill in place. Dark horses of deliciousness are back on the stick again and broadcasting live from FEMA region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in The morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I've got a new red book. I'm John C. DeMora Okay, how what to number red book is this five? I think hmm

00:38 This book is black. There's something so wrong with that. Hey, I've noticed something! What is the date? Today is the 16th of August 2015 Have you been out and about with your GPS in the past couple days? No... I have heard multiple people complaining about their particularly Google Maps throwing them off Yeah Thinking they're on the other side of the road And I'm surprised and i'm thinking that this was the the meteorite storm. Oh well nobody said anything about it, and I would think that if it was a major GPS outage or Or some of their satellites got moved. I think I think it's moving of course I think it's going oh really but you can't move what was it? The person was at the purse was a person not Poseidon Poseidon

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

Google Maps Service Quality, Vendor Changes

Google Maps has reportedly faced a decline in reliability due to undisclosed changes in mapping vendors and a lack of public relations transparency. Early versions of the software, potentially powered by TomTom or Magellan, are recalled as superior to the current iteration, which users find prone to routing errors and poor customer support.

google maps· customer service· tom tom· magellan· navigation software

01:34 What was the name of this meteorite storm we had? Perseus. Yeah, Perside. The Persided Adventure! Exactly Now, a couple of people have mentioned it. Hey man, this thing routed me all wrong and I was talking to the Uber guys like yeah what's going on with this? Well you know Google Maps has been deteriorating for years and when they first came out...I used to rave about it say that's the only reason to buy an Android phone and then out of the blue they switched something. They switched vendors and because Google is closed mouth they don't really have a public relations department except an operation that you email them and they send you, maybe they send you a note back. There's not anybody you can actually talk to

02:12 Mean you can try they don't know how to do customer service at all. They don't have a ball No, and so when they made these changes or you couldn't ask him about it because it was none of your business right? but I know that for a fact that they've changed a couple of times because the original whoever the original vendor was could have been Tom Tom or Magellan who or anybody mm-hmm they Maps were fantastic They were like out of control good this is wouldn't tell you to keep turning around But this is pure positioning. I'm thinking there's something... Yeah, now the positioning is a different issue of course as opposed to going down my favorite thing that Google Maps you go down one street and it says turn left on Powell. Hey John, John! I'm not complaining about Google Maps are complaining about the GPS situation okay yeah and I know you have a real issue with the Google Maps I'm sorry about them sorry hear it

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Ham Radio Conditions, Signal Bouncing Experiments

A new "buddy pole" antenna setup in Austin allowed for global communication on low power, sparking a debate on whether radio signals bounce off meteor clouds or the ionosphere. References are made to historical experiments like the Echo Star balloon and moon-bounce communications to explain long-distance signal propagation.

ham radio· buddy pole· ionosphere· troposphere· signal bouncing

03:00 But I think and I noticed this because I have a new antenna here at the in the skyscraper. I got a buddy pole for my buddy pole yeah from Okay, it's bu DDI P OLE buddy but as a bud dipole of buddy dipole But dipole even considered this dumb joke Yeah, I got a buddy poll. It's not uncommon here in Austin. Okay? And man the conditions just popped up yesterday and i'm sure it's because of this these meteorites was really was just all of a sudden getting around the world on five watts. It was nice. Well the meteorite has absolutely zero to do with the troposphere

03:50 No, but your signals are bouncing off and it's the ionosphere not the troposphere. Okay the ionosphere... Yeah It's bouncing off but then the ionosphere doesn't change because of a few meteors coming in? No no But your signal bounces around off them This is true I don't believe this Do you know that I can bounce... Off these miniscule particles? Do you know that I can bounce a signal off the moon and hear myself back delayed It's probably the bathroom. No, no you can shoot a signal at the moon it'll bounce off the moon and... Okay do you know the size of the Moon? And do you know the size of these little meteors? All right look I'm not gonna argue with you You know they used to have it they sent one time this big giant balloon Echoes it was an Echo Star but it was something like that it had some funny name and you're supposed to be able to bounce off of it

04:43 Apparently it worked. But it too is a million times bigger than one of these little pellets that comes flying through. It's you, but it's a general cloud of stuff that you bounce off of just take it from someone who was really a ham operator Yeah I know but you make this sort of stuff up this... I'm not making it up! You just happen good conditions. It's just good conditions it could happen anytime is that happens every once in a while doesn't have okay? All right, all right So the meteorites are also not responsible for the GPS issues I would probably guess Unless they hit one those little guys would do some damage Okay But I don't know if something's up maybe they moved them or maybe they thought there was

05:27 I mean, they do move them if sometimes they turn them off. You know what? But I don't understand how you passed your license this was a question on the exam. Oh wait, you're not a general, i'm sorry. There's no question...I've seen the general test there's no meteor question Meteors let me ask you something. You know more about a meteor shower to get better reception of the ionosphere Let me ask your question yes, that's your is yes no sometimes Okay now you are like half a generation ahead of me Breakfast at Tiffany's the movie and I'm still running fast

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

Breakfast at Tiffany's, Audrey Hepburn Character Critique

A re-watch of the 1961 film Breakfast at Tiffany's leads to a critique of Audrey Hepburn's character as a "flake" and a "gold digger" rather than a lovable protagonist. The film is described as "fucked up" and "crazy," with George Peppard's performance and the plot's disconnect from reality questioned despite its status as a cinematic classic.

breakfast at tiffany's· audrey hepburn· george peppard· gold digger· classic cinema

06:10 Yes, Breck very very seminal movie. Okay? I saw it recently by the way. Okay well hold on! I saw it yesterday... okay I just saw pretty recently but close to yesterday but not that close This is Audrey Hepburn who of course looks dynamite in this movie and I don't think yeah I'm sure I saw a long time ago or my sister was named after this movie And I got a question my mom's sanity this movie is fucked up ah This is about you know a gold digger Who Audrey Hepburn is a gold digger and some douchebag what I

06:45 I saw it again. I remember seeing it when I was a kid, that was a fantastic film at least I remembered as a fantastic film then when I saw it again...I thought the film was nuts! It's crazy this is totally crazy movie what was the appeal of this? You got people drunk and one of the lead characters is so gay its ludicrous George Pappard from the A-Team But what was the appeal? Why is that heralded as such a great movie, it's completely crazy. I'll tell you why because before i saw it a few weeks ago... ...I remembered it years ago as a great movie and then you'd always throw cuts of it You know like the little car going around and around there would always be uses reference points for other movies so you just remembered it wrongly.

07:41 I was if you had if you hadn't asked me before. I saw it this the second time recently The name a great movie yes, or no he gave me a listen You said breakfast at Tiffany's? I would say yeah Yeah But not after you saw it recently because this is crazy your right It's completely is this maybe like and its corny yeah And it's all about gold diggers. It's a well, she's not that but she's a flake. A total nut job and she's not I don't think she's that lovable like everyone else. She's pretty tall completely nuts but she's kind of like disconnected from society yeah she's uh kind of a beatnik of some sort

08:22 Yeah, I'm a total agreement with you. You got the wrong guy to argue with. I'm just trying to understand why it's held as such a great movie when you watch it and I'm like...I'm gonna sit through it! I really am going to make it but holy crap this is dumb! Well again, I'll reiterate. Yeah? I thought it was a great movie. It's probably like if we would watch Blazing Saddles now we'd probably think that's stupid. I've seen Blazing Saddles recently and it's still good Oh okay alright well I'll watch it tonight then Yeah, you'll know placing saddles holds up. I don't know why because it's pretty gross But it was gross to begin with it was never considered a great movie just consider it You know oddly funny well anyway here's what I recommend for all parents who are listening to this show We have a new change in the the FDA has made or the CDC has made a very important decision and I would say rack up breakfast at Tiffany's

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

FDA Oxycontin Approval, Pediatric Pain Management

The FDA approved the use of Oxycontin for children as young as 11 years old, sparking concerns about addiction risks in minors. While some doctors argue the narcotic is necessary for children battling terminal cancer, critics point to the high volume of opioid prescriptions in the U.S. as evidence of over-medication.

fda· oxycontin· pediatric medicine· narcotic· pain management

09:16 When you take your kid to the doctor and your doctor now is allowed to give children as young as 11 years old Oxycontin play the clip. I got it Lovely, I hadn't seen it yes Tonight, the FDA approving Oxycontin that powerful narcotic for some children as young as 11. Critics saying the highly addictive drug could put those children at risk Some doctors saying it can actually help children battling diseases including cancer. The newest addition to the Bush- Yes? Kids dying of cancers and dreadful pain and you're saying now he can't have Oxycontin He's only gonna live another hour No! Can't have it I'm not saying that Okay... I'm not saying that

09:56 But I'm pretty sure if you look at the amount of prescriptions written in 2012, which was... what was it? The 150 million prescriptions of Oxy? Oh that seems low. Family Poppy Louise Hager right there with mom Jenna named for great-grandpa former president George H.W. Okay I know I got it. Sure, John. I'm all for pain management but come on we know that these fuckers prescribe this stuff anything to children's This is not crazy. They're just giving it to kids for a backache Yeah! Just get them stoned. It's out of control Everybody is so stoned in America Come to America people were stoned We're not, I'm not Well I'm not stoned right now Are you going to be stoned after the show? Oh do you know?! You know it

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

ABC News, FaceTime Native Advertising Analysis

An ABC News report by David Muir regarding the birth of Poppy Louise Hager is scrutinized for alleged native advertising. The segment highlights a specific mention of the baby "FaceTiming" with George H.W. Bush, suggesting Apple may have paid for the product placement within the network's news coverage.

abc news· david muir· native advertising· facetime· poppy louise hager

10:50 You know what I always say after the show, is that I'm going to go get my drink. Wink wink nudge nudge uh huh? So I'm listening...that report came from David Muir on ABC and I want to mention you know I've been tracking the three networks it's gonna be part of a project i'm gonna continue for them in next few weeks and ABC is the one I spotted with the native advertising they always slip it in And I couldn't find it. I said, oh maybe the theory was wrong they just did it once. I mean I did find some great native advertising on the other networks and I found some... Well great is a loose term here. I found some native advertising on The Today Show which is pretty much all native advertising but I re-listened to one of the clips and now I want you listen to it tell me if you

11:44 After knowing that there's some native advertising buried in here, it's buried. I didn't hear it the first time but it was very good then. Which clip is this John? This will be David Muir hidden ad ABC Native Advertising. The newest addition to the Bush family Poppy Louise Hager right there with mom Jenna named for great-grandpa former president George HW. It was right there we're already done! The kid's name is poppy as obviously an oxy a native ad It's cute, but no. Bush whose nickname of course is Poppy and we're told Poppy has already FaceTimed with her great-grandfather. Congrats! Oh really?

12:23 I've listened to all the reports that this kid is in the news on all the stories, just short stories. Not like the long boring stories about how the royal couple doesn't want paparazzi taking pictures of their baby." Wow! I miss that one. And why are we even covering that? Why do we care in the United States that this is even an issue?" But every network had a little short story that you heard just about that length on this girl or the baby, the puppy. And only ABC dropped his little bomb about FaceTime. Yeah that's good. That probably cost a hundred grand. People come to the No Agenda show expecting to hear

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

FAA ERAM System, Virginia Air Traffic Control Glitch

A major computer glitch at an air traffic control center in Leesburg, Virginia, grounded thousands of flights across the U.S. East Coast. The failure involved the En Route Automation Modernization (ERAM) system, a $2.1 billion "next-gen" foundational component that failed despite claims of total redundancy and backup reliability.

faa· eram· leesburg virginia· air traffic control· flight delays

13:02 different takes on the news, different deconstructions analysis. And there was one of my favorite news stories came out... Was it yesterday? Maybe the day before and It wasn't that hard really for me to look into it to see what was going on its aviation related That's why I'm very- I got 99 glitches! Glitch! Glitch! Glitch is a glitch And put a goatee on there, will ya? Alright. I see you have a clip of the air traffic control glitch. Should we play yours as an intro here? Well it says Air Traffic Control 1 where do you get the idea that i have a glitch

13:39 Do you need me to play this or can I just continue? Air Traffic Control 1, please. Tens of thousands of travelers face long delays or cancellations today caused by major problems with a computer system at an air traffic control center in Virginia what started on the east coast quickly spread well beyond NBC's Kristen Dahlgren is that New York's LaGuardia Airport tonight Kristen good evening Good evening to you, Peter. Well the FAA now says that its system is back in service so things slowly getting back to normal I just checked the board inside here at LaGuardia only three departure delays but more than a dozen still on arrival and tonight up and down the east coast there are many passengers still stranded

14:20 At DC's Reagan National this afternoon, the only thing going up was frustration. It shouldn't be like this! Planes weren't going anywhere. According to the FAA, the glitch... ...was in a tracking computer system based in Leesburg Virginia supposed to help route high altitude traffic near the nation's capital and so this is what the airspace looked like for several hours planes not allowed to fly in or out of the usually busy region not a good day to fly, so stay home if you can. I figured, what the heck? Might as well go see what was going on. You know... I'm glad you did because i wasn't interested These things are always interesting to me and I find it quite appalling this reporting that has been done on this all we do is get men on the street women on the street oh my flight's delayed I've been here for a million hours Oh boys oh boy Oh terrible day to fly oh this is not good so I look into this and there was

15:20 definite glitch, computer glitch in the ERAM system. Now I have talked a lot about the next generation aviation system that has been planned for a long time and being implemented in the United States and eventually will go global because of this next gen system we do have some benefits such as the ADS-B so you can actually receive aircraft data just free over the air but a lot of people are doing this with these little software-defined radio USB sticks that are intended for receiving television. You can tune them differently and use them to receive this data, but what went down

15:57 was the ERAM system, which stands for En Route Automation Modernization. This thing launched in April of this year and as the Department of Transportation Inspector General put it quote, ERAM is a foundational component of FAA's next gen and it is critical to meeting FAA goals for increasing airspace capacity and reducing flight delays And I went back and looked at this thing. Now, this is the follow-up to also a failed program, the AAS, the Advanced Automation Systems which you may remember in 1990 they brought this in that it was the same thing! We're just going to modernize aviation. It's going to be fantastic. This gonna really...it's gonna be great

16:45 $2.6 billion of the advanced automation system, and it failed." And they said, well you know what? Mulligan! We'll do something new that will be the next gen. I went back and read all of them...actually i'm going to play a little bit of the promo reel while I get these two statements from the company and from the FAA Let's see, this is... here we go. The FAA has completed the foundational system that gives controllers greater vision across the 20 En-Route centers enhancing safety in what is already the world's safest aviation system Oh yeah! The En-Route Automation Modernization or ERAM is the future of air traffic control. THE FUTURE! By replacing a series of single sites with a networked and integrated system controllers have greater vision across the airspace Okay

17:32 So this is intense, I mean this thing goes on you can listen to all of it and just get it in the show notes. But every single article about this when it launched in April was very very clear about their redundant backup systems This thing cannot fail! I'm looking here at the FAA's own website A fully redundant backup channel precludes the need to restrict operations in the event of a primary failure. The backup channel also provides safety alerts and weather information not available on today's backup system everywhere they say double, redundant triple it can't nothing can go wrong this thing is 2.1 billion dollars 333 million dollars over budget four years late and the fucking thing doesn't work

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

Self-Driving Cars, Human Intuition vs Automation

The push for self-driving cars and automated transit is contrasted with the complex, split-second communication and eye contact humans use while driving on busy roads like Mopac in Austin. Concerns are raised that over-reliance on "cloud-managed" systems creates single points of failure that could lead to societal paralysis if the technology fails.

self-driving cars· automation· human intuition· mopac· robotics

18:19 Now, I gotta tell you this next-gen aviation and i'm all for improving the way things work not against it at all but I have a real issue with the reliance people particularly dumb people in government. Yeah yeah that I'm picking up my Trumpisms here these stupid people in government who don't don't fly, a lot of them don't who are making this shit up and just think oh it's great what a bonanza everyone can get in on this and make some money. We're going to be removing pilots from planes that is the ultimate goal just like self-driving cars I got to tell you these things are pipe dreams for where our technology is today. Johnny I was driving like couple days ago and I'm on Mopac which is a pretty busy road here in Austin going up north

19:05 And I'm amazed at how well human beings do with driving. Do you ever just stop and realize that, or not stop but when you're driving? Do you realize how cool that is, how your brain is anticipating whatever other idiot on the road is doing and you're just maybe a foot away from the guy next to you traveling at 65 miles per hour? We're pretty good at this! I am always fascinated by the decisions two people make separately and independently who both want to make a left turn in a situation where you can go past the guy and make a left turn behind him or, you can go in front of him and make a left turn as he makes a left turn in front of you which is more risky. And sometimes you actually look into the other driver's eyes

19:53 And, you know somehow you have a communication. Yeah and you anticipate what your going to do? I don't know if computers are good at that. We have all these self-driving cars around Austin let me tell you...I see this no different from the trains the so called bullet trains or high speed rail after the non human driver believe comes the non human passenger You're gonna be sitting home in your fucking pod working doing all of this. You've been cussing alot today. I'm sorry it's the Tourettes You're going to be doing all of your human resource needs, all the shiny toys will show up and your food. And you're just going to be at home and these cars not gonna be driving you around? Other robots! Yeah other robots deliver stuff! Cleaning robots! Hey honey the cleaning robots are here! Oh yeah let her in! To think of having centralized air traffic control is completely insane

20:45 When the cloud goes down, which is what happened with this $2.1 billion system fully redundant and what could possibly go wrong? Everyone's grounded! The whole system is disrupted for days I would bring people into... Why doesn't the senator of the house bring these guys in and ask them to what you just read about the redundant no problem it goes down another backup will be right on it yeah why didn't that work Well, there's no reporting. No questioning. There's just no one is like whatever always what an annoyance It's just an annoyance as we can keep reminding people who listen to our show that we actually do

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

GPS Dependency, Loss of Navigational Skills

A personal anecdote about a Craigslist transaction illustrates how modern society has lost the ability to navigate using landmarks or street names without a phone. This dependency on digital navigators is blamed for a decrease in spatial awareness, as users only focus on the immediate path rather than the broader geography.

gps· navigation· craigslist· landmarks· spatial awareness

21:24 And I hate to say it, but his reporting... How hard was it? It wasn't. Oh! Since the next gen's out... How hard was it? Yeah how hard was- It was a glitch! It was Flymageddon! No, I think it was Flypocalypse was what they were calling it. Flypocalypse! Well... Flymageddon, Flypocalypse something. Yeah and everyone is moaning and groaning The explanation is simple, it's a glitch. And I have to say again you do not want... So this kind of evolves into my central theme today if GPS goes out which won't happen due to meteorites ever that won't happen when we know that science is in Do you have any idea how much of life that's going to screw up? But we're already screwed with the internet

22:14 Right, but even like uber drivers. They won't be able to these guys don't know the wife was bitching about this the other day Here's the story She's a huge craigslist nut She's always buying stuff. Is she on the casual encounters or where did she go? No, no, no. She buys stuff like you know armors let's say. MW14. She bought a couple of leather things that are probably 2500 bucks apiece and got them for 150 bucks each. Nice! And so now I have this fantastic chair Because the guy, we're moving to a trailer. We don't need it anymore." Hey sounds like me! You know they spent too much money on furniture so she's talking to these people about getting something and she says how do I get to your place? And the woman could not tell her

23:04 Because she's been, just use your phone. Exactly. Yeah no more directions. Mimi doesn't like using the phone she just doesn't do it She wants to drive around. She says at some...she said the woman couldn't name a landmark A street didn't even know what Street she was on This is the point where I would not go and pick up this cheap chair because i'm thinking that someone's gonna be there To kill me yeah well there's always that risk Anyway, I think you're dead on. In fact she asked me about this. I said, I use the navigator because it shows me new kinds of routes but I do admit that if I use...and I can find my way around but I admit if I go someplace with a navigator sometimes I can't get back without the navigator."

23:52 Because you're paying attention to the navigator, you're not paying attention where you are. I have done this a lot where I force myself just figure out how to get there or look at the directions beforehand just to keep myself sharp but yeah and we don't even see the whole globe, we just see two miles ahead of us that's it Anyway, you do not want the cloud managing your systems that way. You don't want a single point of failure which it is Even though they lied and said this multiple redundant system 2.1 billion dollars after the first two point six were squandered on a piece of crap that didn't work It's terrible Yeah

CHAPTER 10 / 51 Discussion

Donald Trump, Carl Icahn Trade Deal Proposal

During a New Hampshire campaign speech, Donald Trump proposed using billionaire "dealmakers" like Carl Icahn and Henry Kravis to renegotiate trade deals with China. Trump argued that "horrible human beings" are better suited for tough international negotiations than "nice people," while also vowing to protect Social Security.

donald trump· carl icahn· trade deals· china· social security

24:38 And that's your tech news for today. Did you see Donald Trump's New Hampshire speech? No Oh man, oh he was so... Here is his new thing Hey let us give the kids helicopter rides! That was Iowa No he is doing it everywhere He is doing it everywhere Are we doing helicopter rides today? Let us do some helicopter rides But this guy The more I see him, the more I'm liking what he's doing. I just have one clip from his New Hampshire spiel which was just dynamite! He's taking questions and saying that Obama is not a scripted president. You don't want to script the President? Look, I got nothing here. Obama failed when the teleprompter failed so he's hitting every single

25:32 He's putting his finger on every open wound. He's got it down now here is about how he's going to run the country you cannot argue with with his logic our country has tremendous potential we have to take back our jobs from China and all of the other people We have to renegotiate our trade deals by getting people like Carl Icahn and Henry Kravitz. Our great deal... Wait, when I hear this, I'm like yeah! Yeah get those guys in they know what they're doing. The greatest dealmakers in the world. Like Carl is very busy He's a busy man. I called him he said you're doing great. You did a good job guy calling Carl story It's a great story Doing great. You're doing amazing. Do me a favor just relax. I want to do this

26:20 It's like a gangster. Carl, do me a favor relax Carl, but relax I want to do this all right we're gonna do this together man All right come on If i win you take China You take China? You take those little gookie chuggers! You take the Chinas! You take them you screw them Carl you screw them! I'll get somebody else to take this one...I'll get some- We will have our best and these people Carl is..i think he's a nice guy but some of him are not nice No Some are horrible human beings okay But they're the greatest in the world. Yeah, do we want nice people or do we want these horrible human beings to go? Oh, let me think of me thinking which should do we want? Who do you want John to win nice people are doing what horrible human beings negotiating with those crazy China. I want horror. That's right. Horrible. I want the horrible give me the horrible. We will make great trade deals. Yes, we will save social security without cuts.

27:16 By making a deal We will come up with health care plans that will be phenomenal. Phenomenal! By the way, I hope the press calls Carl Icahn because he feels very strongly about this. The gauntlet is down bring Icahn into it And he wants to do it He's so anxious to do it and he's got... he's wealthy as hell They all want to do it You know a guy like Carl Icahn is worth many billions of dollars Not as many as me but many billions He wants to do it This more important than a deal? He doesn't need another deal How many deals can you do Just make the great deal, it's his country. That's the great deal! We gotta make this country rich and then we gotta make it great! Fuck yeah! He's my man I'm down with that Get Carl Icahn in Why don't we give Yahoo to the Chinese? In trade for you know like as our trade deal

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Bill Maher, Fox News Trump Coverage

Comedian Bill Maher observed that Fox News attempted to "put a stake" in Donald Trump's campaign during the early primary stages. The discussion notes the tension between Roger Ailes and Trump, as well as Megyn Kelly's sudden vacation following her confrontational debate questioning of the candidate.

bill maher· fox news· donald trump· megyn kelly· roger ailes

28:07 Isn't that one of his since you brought up the? Donald I don't want to say that again. Oh, please don't uh I do have a couple clips that you have today. I thought it was interesting Bill Maher Mmm. Who is just goes after he's losing his crap over this yes But once in a while He calms down and he actually has some observations That are worth listening to and I think this was a fascinating clip because this was This was bill maher actually noticing the same thing I noticed, which was that Fox was out to get Trump. So let me ask about one Trump he certainly gets all the press we're not going to give him that much but I hear a lot of people say you know it's just a bubble You know its gonna go away just like Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman and all these people did But you kids are little young remember but thats what they said about Ronald Reagan

28:58 I remember when he, I was 12 years old in 1968 when he first floated the bubble of running and it was a joke. Oh come on, he had a stupid television show! He's divorced He avoided combat. He's got weird hair and crazy face paint, this guy will never... So for all those people who say Donald Trump could not go all the way I don't think they're right They didn't say he would get this far And obviously, I don't know what the results are from last night but Fox tried to put a stake in him and i dont think they did Hmm..Fox tried to put a stake in him? Yup

29:34 And by the way, they're still trying but they're doing it more subtly now. The funny thing was starting in the week right after there was this supposed detente between Roger Ailes and Donald Trump Kelly quit the show and went on vacation immediately Yeah for a year-and-a-half, a week-and-a-half But she just said she was so irked because George Watts wasn't backing her up So she's like ah I got vacation time Starting tomorrow bye Right right She must be just steamed Yeah, now and I what I understood. I was told then I have some information coming up But I was told that it was Rush Limbaugh who called I guess Roger Ailes at Fox and said you lay off him I doubt that okay rush limbaugh's got no leverage on the fox Okay, they ever bring him on the show hmm. He's never even been on fuck but once or twice Just just what I heard yeah, that sounds like gossip okay

CHAPTER 12 / 51 Discussion

David Brooks, Low Information Voter Theory

PBS NewsHour commentator David Brooks characterized Donald Trump's supporters as "low information voters" who are motivated by fear rather than policy. Pundits suggest Trump has hit a "25% ceiling" of the Republican base that will remain loyal but fail to expand as the field of candidates narrows.

david brooks· pbs newshour· low information voters· polling· punditry

30:32 Let's try this. Now, I only have one other one that I'm listening to at PBS NewsHour and then David Brooks is on...who he supposed to? You know they got Brooks and Shields and they get this Brooks and Corn, these guys who used to be Mother Jones editors or some of the guys are Mother Jones. He's weird looking because he's got like these very dead eyes but the two will go back and forth on Trump. And so it goes to Brooks who was supposed to be the Republican representative maybe kind of being objective, but he's a obviously a Trump hater and And then he says that there's a little thing at the very end you have to make sure they get this little thing At the very end which I thought was way over-the-top and demands an apology He's in the catbird seat. At least this weekend? And I think it'll be for months to come I think it was foolish to dismiss him not because of him he comes across as a reality TV tycoon buffoon but

31:26 But the people who are attracted to him are a real important part of the Republican primary base. A lot of Republicans still believe that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, that he's some sort of secret socialist and secret Muslim who has this secret plan to destroy the United States and they just really don't like him. And so they want somebody who's going to vent their fears, their frustrations. Not someone who is for good government with policies and that block is anywhere between 10% and maybe 25%. And in a divided field that gives Donald Trump if he speaks to these people you know what he said

32:04 this outsized influence. And I don't think that block is going away and Trump isn't going away. I agree Trump isn't growing away, but he's not gonna get votes. I think his voters will be- You think he's not gonna get votes in the next election? I think much less than he polls. He'll poll really well. I think it'll hang around 20 forever But his voters are what they call low information voters, that is to say people who don't pay attention to politics. And this is a conservative party and he's not a conservative He's against entitlement reform, for single payer healthcare system His ideology isn't left right it's winners and losers Winner and all those people you don't like and feel alienated by They're a bunch of losers

32:42 And so it's not a classic ideology. I think he'll get it because for the reasons, I said earlier, for the same reason Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are struggling He is rising. He is at the moment where the country wants some sort of weird insurgency with a lot of ego and that's him And so he's at the moment of the times, but I don't think those people are gonna show up and he'll just hang around a 20% forever But somebody will eventually be there. Well we keep talking about it every Friday We'll see how long it lasts He continues to be an incredibly gross human being Yeah, he continues to be an incredibly gross human being. You know here's this guy is the Republican commentator? Well is he really a Republican? Well we all know everybody questions whether he is or not I personally doubt it you know so the emails I receive and whenever there's a positive article about Trump always have this line...and I just look for the line if that lines in I won't even read it

33:44 Of course I wouldn't vote for him. That's one way of... But of course everything he says is crazy! That's another way, so there are these article after article email after email and I believe people really want to believe his message because it's such an American yeah f-yeah but they can't bear to actually say, yeah I kind of like what he's saying you know what i mean? It's just articles. I think this is where Bill Maher actually hit the nail on the head. It's exactly, it's... And these two guys. This is the latest meme by the way I picked it up on not only with these two guys but also picked it up here and there so that it's starting to bubble up in Foxes. I don't know that I can say they heard it on Fox but it will be up I'm sure on Fox which is Trump has tapped into this rigid 20% The twenty-five percent majority. Oh, silent majority? This little group but as a group that's gonna stick with him and that's it he's not going any higher

34:47 Or lower, because this group is gonna stick with him. So what you've done is you explained away all your bad punditry You've been wrong about him all along and now you're still wrong about him but now you got this new explanation which makes sense There's a 25% factor and they are always going to vote for him Once the party starts to coalesce and you don't have so many candidates The 7%, 8% for this guy and that guy starts to add up It goes way beyond the 20. Trump stays at 20 no matter what happens, that is the latest and greatest punditry." Well here's the latest that I got... That's right this is one of our producer connections this one goes high up into the elites via drug dealers so you know this information is good The drug dealers always hang out with everybody right? The good ones

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Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden 2016 Speculation

Speculation arises regarding Joe Biden entering the 2016 presidential race as Hillary Clinton faces mounting pressure from her private email server scandal. Reports suggest "powerful Democrats" are becoming exhausted by the controversies surrounding the Clinton Foundation and are looking for an alternative candidate.

hillary clinton· joe biden· email scandal· clinton foundation· 2016 election

35:43 Yeah, the elite drug dealers. Here's the word and I just want to get it in now. Word is Hillary is out announce if she's out on Monday tomorrow Biden comes in and If this is wrong, it's wrong but I trust this source All right? I'm betting that's wrong Okay It doesn't sound right the timing is not good. Ah well things here listen to um Let's see, this is CNN doing some analysis. Joe Biden's capabilities as a campaigner are generally excellent. He has that authenticity that is really being craved in this election cycle. He is you know Joe from Scranton he appeals to the Joe six pack character I remember covering his race in 2007 and early 2008 and he was right it didn't go beyond here in Iowa

36:32 But he did very well in retail political settings. Anderson, I'm told the calculus is this... Calculus? He does not believe that he would not be able to put an organization together. He believes that he is a unique figure in this sense everyone knows who he is and he believes you have the money there for him. He's looking at a couple things, one of his friends told me that running for president might actually be somewhat therapeutic for him as he tries to get over this tragic loss of his sons passing and two is also waiting to see how vulnerable Hillary Clinton potentially is with all these emails that's why he's making these telephone calls the Democrats

37:10 Yeah, well the emails definitely are not going away. They are a real problem and this next clip which I think whether this just is as a media let's get some more advertising let's make it a horse race let's make it closer or if my source is correct Here's what the Morning Joe kid said. Too many people at this point. I've got to tell you the bigger problem is now she has some really tough defenders, but I will tell you by and large most Democrats powerful Democrats I talked around dinner tables or lunch tables

37:56 are just like this. They know the email scandal is going to get worse, they know there's more in the Clinton Foundation and they're exhausted. They basically said we've been doing this for 20 years with these Clintons and this is no way to start thinking about it. These are around the dinner table, around the lunch table powerful Democrats saying we just can't do this. Well I'm not in disagreement with any of I just don't think that's the timing. I think you had better analysis when you thought there was going to be a different kind of way, more gruesome way of getting out of this. Oh oh! My next line is going to be...I think Bill should watch out No, Bill has gotta watch out but if Hillary does what this guy predicts tomorrow or even next weekend sometime will give me that much leeway Okay, you give me a week thank you. I'll give you whole week. That enough time for the oyster?

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Benghazi Email Allegations, Obama Golf Meeting

A meeting between Bill Clinton and Barack Obama on a golf course in Martha's Vineyard is framed as a potential negotiation over Hillary Clinton's legal exposure. Allegations surface that the private emails contain evidence of unauthorized weapon sales and a botched "kidnapping scheme" involving the U.S. Ambassador in Benghazi.

benghazi· barack obama· bill clinton· andrew napolitano· weapon sales

38:51 If that happens, then Bill's got to go, whew. Fantastic! And Bill went golfing and he showed up... supposedly they bumped into each other in Martha's Vineyard. Bill is there and so they're golfing together and you know what that was about? Who? Bill and Biden? Obama. Oh yeah. Yeah, so Bill's golfing. I can't even imagine he could swing the club but it's a bills golf with Obama and that's only about you know look to you is there any way we can lay off Hillary? You know he's for all for her winning the press. Well i think right now of the um and I was reading a very well written article by Judge Nepal Andrew Napolitano who wrote about the legality or illegality of the emails and he's really combed through them or at least what has been released

39:36 And he says that the only person stopping Hillary Clinton from being prosecuted is Obama. Now, I don't think he'll do anything because this would also then ultimately implicate him and the current administration in Benghazi. From what I understand these emails are pretty clear about the weapon sales that Hillary Clinton was orchestrating. Well let's look at it from another perspective. uh... if bookman clinton was having a meeting with obama he may have been threatening him or he could've been begging for his life do you think it would be a bit of a channel quick i think they were doing and i think you'd actually take the bullet people in the city but bill o'bama not on the way that we're going to get enough bill until bill what now i didn't know what it doesn't have to be death it can just be hospital will be a million things is beside the point where we were deployed trying to get to which is that

40:30 He goes, look we all know about because I cuz Hillary told me about this. We all know about the Kidnapping scheme yeah if this goes any further This is gonna come out and it's gonna ruin your well so that was what bill would be threatening So to reiterate yeah, we have this on pretty high authority that it started in Tunisia and the word went out. Wasn't it Tony the Terrorist who told us this? I don't remember, just so long ago. Yeah, Tony the Terrorist in San Francisco The word had gone out we need a kidnapping of the ambassador and this was meant to be like an October surprise And then Obama would swoop in and save the ambassador That would be a shoe-in for reelection which he didn't really need which is the sad part

41:18 Right, because they got suckered by the media and they continued assertions that this was a close race which is the way the media does it so they get more money from campaign advertising. So they botched it these guys were all jacked up and like... And then decided to go into a CIA operation Right, the next door. Yeah, next door so the whole thing was a mess and then but you know the stuff they did to to the to the ambassador that has never really been properly reported but they sodomized this guy with broomsticks and they really did a number on him none of that was ever properly reported it's not really in the history books

41:59 Now Obama, I don't know how this is going to turn out. They could drop the whole thing and we'll see if they dropped the whole thing then you know Clinton got to Obama on the golf course where nobody's listening. Although I can't believe nowadays that they don't have him. I think Bill he'll take the bullet You know, this is coming way too soon for Hillary to off him. So you know he'll be like oh I can't he can be serious heart attack anything that she's... I want to remind people that we're the only show it that would discuss anything like this seriously yeah because it's a real possibility something that could actually happen

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Elizabeth Warren, Democratic Primary Strategy

If Hillary Clinton were to exit the race, a potential surge for Elizabeth Warren is predicted, possibly with the financial backing of the Clinton machine. A Warren-Sanders ticket is dismissed as geographically redundant, while a Biden-Warren matchup is viewed as a more likely establishment strategy to counter Donald Trump.

elizabeth warren· bernie sanders· joe biden· democratic party· 2016 election

42:39 Well, we'll see if Hillary gives up the ghost. Even if they dropped us they do still have the Clinton Foundation to deal with and all of the money that comes in from the Saudis. But she has her war chest. She can be the kingmaker. If it's Elizabeth Warren... By the way here is a way I would see this playing out let's say she quits in the next couple weeks. But I'm only giving you one week on this thing." Alright, one week thank you! Otherwise... And otherwise I am never buying my drugs from this guy again ever! You're going to have to complain back to him. It would go like this she would drop out and stay mom probably disappear for a week or two and then Biden would come in

43:26 And he would, you know, try to crank up a campaign. Warren would see the opportunity because she knows that this may have been planned or she was always hoping this would happen or maybe she was always clued in that this would be her cue. She comes in and when...because it's because the Democrats have to elect the woman president they gotta be first since everybody is in a big race. So she comes barreling in And she, now there's a real race between her and Bernie Sanders which is kind of the same person. In fact there are some Bernie Sanders badges I'll talk about this. Yes you read your newsletter? It says Sanders Warren. As I feel the Bern. What it says Sanders Warren you saw these badges yeah look it up on the internet.

44:11 Okay, perfect. So there's that but that is a dead ticket because they will not put two people from the same general vicinity as president and vice-president with almost exact same opinions of things so she's gonna come in and she's going to get into the fray And as she does, Clinton will throw her support behind Warren and give her all the money. As opposed to giving it to Biden because as far as I know Biden has never come out and endorsed Clinton so he's already on the panel. But he would do that in a heartbeat if they're all going to get behind him. Joe is controllable! They like Joe. He could go against Trump in a debate That'd be cool there'll be two East Coast guys duking it out. That would be the best debate ever

44:57 That would be good. It'll be Trump versus Warren and Warren is really good on her feet she could probably give Trump a run for his money. Sorry I think she could beat Trump in the debate Huh Yeah, because he's too misogynistic. He'd say something shitty... I don't think he's misogynistic at all but no it was perceived as perceived as yeah to casual right? Right and has the reputation. Anyway we'll see what happens on Monday. But I'm trusting my source it seems have gotten pretty bad so that she has to stop she has to get out of any kind of investigation as soon as possible Oh yeah because it's gonna threaten you say here's a real problem could threaten the Clinton Foundation oh whoo-hoo

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Anti-Trump Folk Song, Huffington Post Promotion

A viral video featuring a young girl singing a folk song critical of Donald Trump is mocked for its poor musical quality and "flat" vocals. The song, which suggests it is time for Trump to leave the race and mentions Melania Trump, was reportedly promoted on the Huffington Post.

donald trump· folk song· huffington post· melania trump· political satire

45:41 And that's the data is a huge cash cow and that's much more important world at the global initiative and all the rest of it. It's all gonna be under scrutiny if this continues, I can't have any of that anyway my final clip there was a smear song written and it was playing all over the place in different kinds Left-wing websites some girl. She's like 12 she has a very unclear voice and she sings this folk song about Trump Have you heard this? No, I don't think so. I heard it different one piece of crap But it's like you can see oh yeah. Oh, ho ho that she put him in his place

46:24 Open chords. Ha ha! Time to pull out of the race Time to go time ago. We've seen your show it was fun at first But now wait a minute you're telling me that there are websites that are actually promoting this crap yes It's not even good. I think it was even on the Huffington Post. Oh, geez! We could do... If you want to get a video of her, she's kind of a cute little 15 year old or whatever playing the guitar and so it's kind of quaint but it's this horrible song she can't sing because she's flat

47:18 Anyway, I'll take it to the bridge. Bing bing bong bong bing bing It was fun at first but now you blow I don't want to alarm ya And i'm sure I like Melania But wouldn't be shady If she was our prince lady? But that's not gonna take place Because you are so off base and before your legs are grinning Oh, she said blow. That's hilarious! Let's put that on the Puffing The Huff Po front page

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No Agenda Episode 747, Artwork and Credits

The hosts acknowledge the artwork for episode 747, titled "The Median Mexican," created by Sir Andrew Gardner. Listeners are encouraged to submit their own digital art to the No Agenda Art Generator to support the show's "value-for-value" model.

no agenda· mile high club· andrew gardner· noagendaartgenerator.com· podcasting

48:10 Oh, please. All right well you've got our information we can only be as good as the information We receive or uncover or research and Monday will know more but thank you for giving me a week I think that's very fair Yeah, it's more than fair And with that i'd like to thank You very much for your courage and say in The morning to you John C where the c stands For The Cadillac of podcast hosts Dvorak Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and games at nights out there In the morning everybody in the chat room noagenderstream.com good to see y'all there we've got about a thousand people just uh... it's just on stream a lot of the chat room as well good to see you in the morning to our artists and thank you NOAA Gender Racing this is I think Sir Andrew Gardner who brought us the artwork for episode 747 this was our Mile High Club

49:02 episode, the heteronormative title and he brought us the Mexican median. The Median Mexican actually. The Median Mexican. The Median Mexican hot little Mexican chick kind of standing in the media. Standing in the media. Yeah that was very creative yeah it was good I liked it noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions or way you can submit and it's been kind of meager the past few episodes so consider helping us out So let's start by thanking a few executive producers. We have two of them and a few associate executive producers, we have three of them Sir Patrick Seymour comes in at the top with 543 dot 21 from Clayton Ohio and he says ITM gentlemen I knew it was time to donate again when i was forced to sit through a campus police safety video covering how to deal with an active shooter

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Active Shooter Training, Backpack Defense Tactics

Executive Producer Sir Patrick Seymour shares a critique of a campus police safety video regarding active shooter protocols. The video reportedly suggests that an active shooter might only have a knife and advises students to disarm attackers by throwing backpacks at them.

active shooter· campus police· safety video· patrick seymour· self-defense

49:53 More than once we heard the phrase, if you see something say something. Hold on let me play it for ya. If you see something Say Something That's right! Apparently an active shooter may have only a knife and not a gun as an active shooter Oh okay Also that's according to the cops It also is a good idea according to the video to disarm the shooter by throwing your backpack at them Well, yeah. Better than just cowering in place! So that's Sir Patrick the enormous noggin you might as well give him a karma. I'm happy to do that. You've got Karma We got David Young he is this other associate executive producer from Tiburon over here in California 466... But he's an executive not associate He's an executive. That's what I said didn't I? No no 46639 he did have a note emailed and now we'll read it

50:48 Back office, the contribution today is the first to your show. While the culture of this show and many donation options are many example double nickels on the dime I decided that to dial in honey for my first donation and I hope to do more in the future. Keep up the great work, David Young at Honeymoon Brands he's actually a locally famous entrepreneur who does all kinds of little food startups. Oh really? Yeah he does this honeymoon brand ice cream that is like Whole Foods carries it and all these...it's a very

51:25 touchy-feely. Do you know him personally? I sent him a note saying that I wanted to talk about ice cream flavors on the show. Yeah, yeah that'd be great! Because one of the things... he's doing these very unique There's a bunch of ice cream makers in the Bay Area that have cropped up. Is this like new douchebag thing? It's a new millennial thing, now he is older so he just passed being a millennial but he is in this swing with things with really hot ice cream brand But if you go to College Avenue in Oakland there must be six or seven vendors and they got lines going out their doors Does he have kale ice-cream

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Artisanal Ice Cream, Orange Chocolate Flavors

A discussion on artisanal ice cream brands in the Bay Area covers unique flavors like licorice and pumpkin. Memories of a specific orange-flavored dark chocolate ice cream from France and Swenson's are shared, alongside a mention of the Blue Bell ice cream recall due to Listeria.

ice cream· david young· swenson's· orange chocolate· listeria

52:06 No, I don't think he has kale. Okay but here's the ice cream... The best one there is this one woman uh I can't it's not Mary it's somebody I can't think of her name but she does these ice creams that are all wild they're just I don't use eucalyptus once she had roost bios. I'd love to have potpourri ice cream You never know, she would do that. But the problem is she's such a hippie that the containers are made out of recycled cardboard and it soaked up the ice cream. Oh and its probably very expensive for that very reason And its extremely expensive ice cream but shes got these great flavors now I'm going to...now my story about flavors..I don't understand why this one particular flavor

52:49 The closest that anyone has ever come to it was when Swenson's was in business. There was an ice cream vendor... Nat Malkus Swenson's? I've never heard of this. ...in the Bay Area, and I think California called Swenson's. And Swenson's had a orange chocolate chip, I think was the name of it. And it reminded me closely... The best ice cream I've ever had was in... It was so memorable, I still remember from the 1970s. Only you would remember the best ice cream you've ever had? I was in Cahours France lounging at one of their better restaurants and this is where I discovered that women in Southwest France

53:28 They would commonly throw ice cubes in whatever wine they got in front of them. And so it's not a big deal, but they had this orange-flavored dark chocolate ice cream. It just had...it was an orange flavor dark chocolate ice cream very much like the Swensons only didn't have all these stupid chocolate chips in it and I never could figure out why they have to keep...orange and chocolate is a great combination when we're in exact right proportions. So was orange and duck? Exactly, orange and duck is quite good. Think of that as an ice cream. Probably prunes and chocolate would be too but this ice cream was fantastic! Orange and chocolate is just a fantastic, but they're gonna you know even if this guy could tell by looking at his ice creams He'd have big chunks of orange in it or something. Oh no that's not good the orange chocolate ice cream No now well I want to get carried away But there's another ice cream that I had that I thought was very impressive which was there used to be a place called McCallum's Another famous famous ice-cream parlor in Berkeley That the guys picked up their tent and moved out after the 89 earthquake hmm

54:30 They just said no, I'm not gonna. Don't want to die here So, they made a couple of different...they made probably one of the best pumpkin ice creams I've ever had. And I like pumpkin ice cream but they made a licorice ice cream that was phenomenal! Oh man. On Halloween you could have a scoop of pumpkin and a scoop of licorice dynamite. Hey do you think our producer here David Young, our executive producer does he have stores in the Bay Area? Does he have stores all around the country and where does he have them? No, it's all California Can we have like a code word for discount Well, you're going to have to ask. You go in and say Bill's a dead man I don't think he runs stores. I didn't see any stores. I think it mostly is retail. Oh just the retail? A wholesale to retail. Well here in Texas we eat Blue Bell ice cream which is pretty good. I've had Blue Bell. It's good Yeah that's pretty good. It'll kill ya

55:20 We had a big recall. Bluebell were out of the store for weeks. I remember blue bells having a recall. Weeks, weeks or something. Yeah they had Listeria or something. Something not bueno! Now once you do that you might as well just shut up. Shut her. Let me continue thanking these people. Sorry I did that but it was... No, see people love hearing about your life. I don't think they love it that much Here we go, but anonymous ah we have a B. Well I think he's already been benign amiss all right well 2222 is his thingies in Sunnyvale over here He says eliminate the location okay? Well whatever

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Listener Donations, Cursive Typewriters

Associate Executive Producer David Lane sends a donation accompanied by a note typed on a rare cursive typewriter. The note credits the show's tech news segments for helping him pass a Network Plus exam, leading to a discussion about the legibility of cursive fonts in print.

donations· karma· david lane· cursive typewriter· network plus exam

56:03 The last few shows have been outstanding. I guess anybody around here is gonna...I know there's a Bananamous, he's in Sunnyvale. Yeah let's go kill him! That's the last few shows have been outstanding. Let's kick them in the shins. They're some of my favorites so far. Trump makes fantastic show material thank you for topping yourselves consistently as of late. Well that us, The Toppers. The Toppers. I've been listening since 2009 and made my way through college and I credit this show for giving me a sharper more analytical worldview Nice. Thank you again! The NOA Agenda shows an excellent primer for how to analyze world affairs for any students out there, in celebration of John- Amy Goodman's uh... twinner flub can I get a Let's Get Social song plus a karma? Love, Be Anonymous. Okay, I think i have that cut down the uh yeah here we go I'd love to do that for ya.

57:03 Let's get social! Let's get social! Let's get social, social media! or Tim Anonymous as he calls himself. Yeah, isn't that interesting? That's what I say every time! Isn't that interesting?! Yes it is quite interesting just dynamite done and finally last but not least our associate executive producer David Lane from Springfield Missouri $200 and he sends in this crazy note in the morning John and Adam thank you both for the...I say it's crazy because it was typed

58:00 I believe, yes. I'm pretty sure it's typed. Typed with a typewriter and these only were out for very few years. I remember them It was a typewriter that typed cursive Hmm so it's pretty much is the borderline unreadable? I mean I can read cursive but this this is like eight point which nobody could actually write in real life Thank you both for the bi-weekly therapy sessions You're welcome! I received a passing grade on comp T on the comp something TJ a network plus exam or the other The other day I give all the credit to your Sunday tech news segments. Oh, yes That is all I have to report from FEMA region the seven Perfect would you please play the following? Oh woman saying that she is a rule follower Uh-huh then followed by Adam clearing his throat to say bullshit

58:57 Yeah, that's not really me but I'll take it. That's not you but i-it sounds enough like you that that's what he thinks too. I'm a rule follower so if the rule is we have to do it then I'll do it. Bullshit! And a karma chaser...I'm sure that's okay. You've got karma That concludes our Associate Executive Producer and Executive Producer segment, and ice cream lecture. Yes! For show 748. And we want to remind people to go to dvorek.org slash NA because we do a show 749 coming up on Thursday. We need continued support. And...we still have our My High Club? Is that still open or how does that work? Yeah it'll be open but we're not going to be promoting it so much until Show 767. Okay

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No Agenda Show, Domain Names and Jingles

Producer Mike Cole registered the "noagenda.show" domain to help with show discoverability. The hosts discuss the effectiveness of recognizable musical elements and jingles, specifically mentioning the "ISIS song" used as a satirical recruitment and support tool for the program.

noagenda.show· mike cole· isis song· jingles· podcast promotion

59:39 Okay, good. I love the newsletter John although I have to say your cat Jif at the end was was hypnotic I couldn't stop looking at that thing I was gonna caption it, but I just couldn't come up with anything. Caption it yourself! Yeah, that's just beautiful. Oh these of course are official credits they work just like Hollywood They're justice valid unlike the douchebags in Hollywood We will vouch for you if you need anyone to confirm that you are an actual executive or associate executive producer Or any kind of producer and we recommend putting that on your LinkedIn page It does seem to get you a lot of views PR corner. Thank you to Mike Cole who has discovered that the dot show domain top-level domain is now available

1:00:23 And he went ahead and registered noagenda.show for us. Oh, nice! We can actually have all of them? I think that's a very good one. Yeah we can move it over so now forwarding to noagendashow.com we appreciate that and thank you very much to producer Rob Ron who is helping us with a well-known strategy You know, we...we know that jingles and music and recognizable elements of the show really help people remember to do things. It reminds them of the program it reminds them to support us I mean obviously we have... But without doubt one of THE most

1:01:06 successful musical elements for recruitment has got to be the ISIS song. Donate to a no agenda, they give us shows week after week. Donate to a No Agenda it's a show that is really unique. Donate to a No Agenda Listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to a no agenda, science is turning into a clique. We're gonna have a lot of uh... I know, but a lot of people complain about it. They even though we've said it It's a hit song! We were not trying to hide anything. We're not slipping in that oh we went on FaceTime

1:02:05 We're not trying to trick anybody. A lot of the stuff we do is so you'll remember the show. For good reason! Yes, when you hear this song and be thinking oh I must support ISIS... No now you'll think Oh I should support no agenda instead of Isis Yes, no agenda. Well, what else you got going on Jean? Well. Let's see what we got on the list I just moved everything around now of course you can't find anything Oh are you are you running your show on the stick today? Are you on the stick no? Okay, I got one of the Intel No, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no called me back after The show on Thursday yeah You texted me which is be like John never text me except newsletter

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Space Shuttle Conspiracy, Project Blue Beam

A discussion of a space shuttle video purportedly showing alien damage is debunked due to inconsistencies with the NASA logo and flag placement. The conversation shifts to "Project Blue Beam," a conspiracy theory suggesting a faked alien invasion will be used to implement a new world order.

space shuttle· nasa· project blue beam· aliens· conspiracy theories

1:03:29 This is guys to do test newsletter like newsletter, okay? I think I have to go check the newsletter newsletter then and that's about it or you'll send me a two-hour documentary Saturday night at midnight About you know project blue bling blue beam disclosure craziness like oh this is great. No I'm prepping for the show man. I have 2 hours to watch your conspiracy crap I knew you'd give me grief about this. What do you think you are? So he texts me after the show and i'm in decompression mode, you know like yeah i'm chilling i've smoked my joint or drank my whiskey and like He's like dad get back on the show get back on the skype Okay, I was watching some of this crazy uh, you know aliens attacking stuff And my favorite one was this guy there was apparently before I guess it was a which is the one that crashed It was columbia challenger one of the ones that came into the atmosphere learning up

1:04:22 Not the one that blew up on takeoff with I don't know which one so there was always attacked by aliens if they guys Has it there's some movie of the thing in space. I guess is all shot up by something and The guy is showing this video, and he says a lot of other guys We know they do photoshop to phony these things out But I'm looking at this I think is legit And then he says I only have one problem with it And so he goes into a deconstruction of the spaceship, or the space shuttle in space all shot up. He says when it was taking off on the left-hand side it said that had the flag and then United States and then there was no NASA logo but this phony one that's in this movie has got the logo on it

1:05:08 He says, that's kind of a I think that's kind of a problem. But except for that, I think it's legit. And I'm thinking except for that, that's the main clue that is a fake. Right? Well, you know, I'm kind of on board with the blue project Blue Blue Beam Which is that we are going to be introduced to our overlord alien visitors just like V and then will all be very compliant. Wasn't that supposed to happen in 2012? No, 2012-2030 I think. Oh okay. Who knows anyway so John says get on the skypes. This is pretty much like uh... To me it's like Selling wine This one I bought this wine is terrible of store cook. It's the worst thing I've ever had it on I know just give it some it needs age It needs age about five years from now. It's gonna be dynamite no, but can I move on now? Yeah, so my you've all you've taken to had ice cream wine what next So okay

CHAPTER 23 / 51 Discussion

Intel Compute Stick, Portable Podcasting Test

Testing of the Intel Compute Stick, a $150 Atom-based computer, reveals it is capable of basic tasks but struggles with Skype when additional memory is added. The device's limited power output also prevents it from running external hard drives that rely on USB power, making it unsuitable for a full podcasting rig.

intel compute stick· atom processor· skype· hdmi· podcasting rig

1:06:07 So John says get on the skypes, and he said how do I sound you know yeah? Sound like that And you were running it on this on a computer stick on a computer on a stick explain Okay, so Intel's got a bunch of these little machines that they make. They have the NUC which is I think a wonderful loader unit and then they brought the Compute Sticker but they never wanted me to get one. I don't know why but there...I got a new guy over there that sent me one. So he sends me the Compute Stick it's 150 bucks it's an atom-based computer and it actually works! And so I hooked it up to the entire podcasting rig and it worked fine

1:06:46 And it's only, the problem with it is the following. I mean in terms of just having a little cheap computer that you can plug into an HDMI port and it has 1920 by 1080p output It's a dynamite little product! And its cheap, relatively cheap. I think somebody else makes cheaper ones but similar So I wanted to know if you could use it as a podcasting rig. It seems that it sounded good, now here's what happened since then why I'm not using it today? Okay because we agreed let's test on the show! Yes and you're not testing in on the show right what happened was that has a little input for an additional memory it has like 32 gigs or something in it got a lot of memory for this stick but doesn't have enough uses day-to-day with

1:07:36 word processing and Photoshop for sure. So I stuck some more memory in it, and it never quite had that...I tested on Skype and it was like breaking up a little bit. The extra memory in there I think was...I don't know why someone from the chip level engineering could tell me. I think the thing that's happened to code...it hadn't deal with this extra memory, it was losing cycles when it came to using Skype And so instead of fooling around anymore with another thing, another problem with it by the way. I think there's a problem with a lot of these little small boxes is that if you plug in stand-alone hard disk into in other words a hard disk that uses USB power because things only have like 10 watts total? It just shuts down everything. Oh, it can't handle it. No! Too much work. But if you have I think a plugin disk drive like

1:08:26 You know, I think in general these stick these computers on a stick are not quite ready for prime time. I have the Amazon firestick Yeah And it has sometimes it has trouble processing to get the video out and it is jerking around a bit particularly with lot of motion Well, I don't have very little trouble with the roku box and I think this can this compute stick from Intel's actually pretty good And I think if I didn't have hadn't upgraded it, I think we could have used that today But I decided not okay Good Onward then. Onward, yes. Greece? I have a couple of things... Oh, I was going to say Greece. I decided that again i'm doing this study of the three networks oh yes now you're going to do this for three weeks you want to watch the three networks two-three and one. Do 3 make it threes man! Three networks three weeks. There ya go, I got it! Three Networks Three Weeks John Dvorak's Three Networks Three Weeks THREE NETWORKS THREE WEEKS

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NBC News, Reporter Cadence and Billy Mays

The vocal delivery of NBC reporters, specifically Richard Engel, is compared to the high-energy cadence of infomercial host Billy Mays. The analysis suggests that network field reporters often adopt a specific, repetitive rhythm that mimics sales pitches, regardless of the seriousness of the news topic.

nbc news· richard engel· billy mays· reporter cadence· infomercials

1:09:27 So I was listening to Richard Engel, who's on NBC. Oh the liar? You mean the award-winning liar? Liar! He is reporting and this is the report that's worth listening to anyway... And I started noticing he has a cadence and then I ended up going to another guy who gave a report, and he has the cadence. And I think many NBC field reporters have a cadence that is sounds like somebody reminds me of somebody but play the Richard Engel clip for 27 years ago Saddam Hussein murdered 5000 Kurds with mustard gas and other chemical weapons this time

1:10:03 They're allegedly victims of terrorists. US officials say this is not a red line moment and it's unlikely to significantly change US policy, the U.S is already bombing ISIS but the use of chemical weapons does change the dynamics on the battlefield The Kurds don't have gas masks they may need them as ISIS is apparently willing to use any weapon it can Lester NBC's Richard Engel tonight. Thanks up next we'll tell you more about a monster change in the forecast that so-called got me You know in the monster change in the forecast is the neck not you're not ending your clips Well, man, do you gotta end these two get an editing? No this day that ending goes to the next clip

1:10:46 Okay, so I know the cadence. I recognize it immediately. Yeah, it's a kind of a case but there's another cadence that that's a little more extreme angle has got the foreign affairs guy and I don't like his cadence by the way and this mustard gas thing story is bogus. Oh yeah then like raping hostages and throwing mustard gas So here's the NBC reporter sounds like that before you go I've got, now i don't have the best example of this guy who I think they're all trying to sound like but I've got the guy in here. It rolled in with fury This Las Vegas monsoon wreaking havoc lightning sparking fires torrential rain triggering flooding a fast-moving summer storm Big City slider station

1:11:34 to press and cook delicious sliders. Those restaurant mini burgers everyone loves that's it? That's the cadence yeah, that's it like this guy wake up I demand you break your conditioning yeah that's that's Richard Daniel didn't let the thing finish because they have a more squishing and squashing or flipping With the slider station, just scoop press and cook right on your stove. That could be a preview of what's to come this winter. El Nino is definitely a double-bladed sword it will provide drought relief but it also provides an awful lot of mayhem and damage NASA climatologist Bill Patzer says... Huh? Okay that's good okay anyway I'm telling you it's that guy Billy whatever his name was who any sells the what

1:12:22 Well in that case, this is not the best example of him. Billy Mays. He's dead! But there are a couple other guys and they're usually all Australian And that's what this guy sounds like I was saying why does this guy sound so familiar? And it's Billy Mays NBC has got a bunch of Billy Mays They're all selling such stuff There is cadence Every channel has their cadence and this is the NBC cadence These things creep in in an organization you don't even really realize. Should we play that again? Richard Engel, just one more time? Yeah! 27 years ago Saddam Hussein murdered 5,000 Kurds with mustard gas and other chemical weapons I mean it's just like scum Nazi filth trash garbage maggots There is always a job for Richard Engel in Austin No problem he would fit right in

CHAPTER 25 / 51 Discussion

Greek Bailout, German Asset Acquisition

The third Greek bailout deal is criticized as a form of "slavery" that requires extreme austerity and tax hikes in exchange for $93 billion. Analysts suggest the deal is designed to allow Germany to seize Greek infrastructure assets through the KFW bank, especially since the IMF has refused to participate without debt relief.

greece· eurozone· bailout· imf· angela merkel

1:13:21 Okay, Greece. So everyone's reporting oh we have a bailout deal! We do not have a bailout deal. Nothing has been signed yet. I'd love to because we do not have a bail out deal and there is something very important that is missing from the bail out deal I thought, after you play this, I think this is a funny clip. Eurozone finance ministers met in Brussels today and gave final approval to a third bailout for Greece hours earlier after an all-night debate the Greek Parliament backed the draft agreement despite a rebellion by members of the ruling party The deal requires new cuts in public spending and tax hikes In exchange for 93 billion dollars over the next three years That's what they agreed too more slavery

1:14:08 I got the biggest kick out of that because it goes like this. You give them a bailout and then you give them these conditions, say bailout number one and you gotta tax more and spend less. And they do that and go into the tank And then they say, okay. Okay. We're going to try this. We'll try something new here's another bailout you gotta tax even more than your taxes before and spend even less than just spent before and that may do it well is a go completely broke yeah so they come back with the third thing was same no no okay then they go completely broke then the Germans take all the assets which are sitting in the KFW bank

1:14:47 all the pink slips for the infrastructure and that's the whole point. They're not going to give them anything, maybe they'll give a couple billion. Just ripping the Greeks off, period. Yes and the clue to this bailout does not include the International Monetary Fund they are not a part of this deal which means that EU will be on the hook they will be guarantors for this so called bail out loan Of course they won't be able to succeed in all new austerity measures

1:15:23 And it's just intended for Germany to take all their stuff. The IMF said, we need debt relief and the Merkel and Schauble said no, nein, nein! We're going to take their stuff, their bicycles. The deal has not officially been signed yet but Fifi Lagarde says I'm not in so there is a fracture in the Troika this could be interesting for Portugal or Italy or Spain. So things are happening at the same time Greece is being just deluged with

CHAPTER 26 / 51 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis, Kos Reception Centers

The Greek island of Kos is overwhelmed by refugees from Syria and other conflict zones, leading the government to use cruise ships as temporary registration centers. The crisis is linked to U.S. foreign policy in North Africa and the Middle East, with references to Victoria Nuland's influence on European affairs.

kos· syria· refugees· immigration· victoria nuland

1:16:05 Refugees, who I think are called visitors in the EU. Visitors yeah they're tourists without a visa it's gotten so bad The Venizelos arrives in Kos The Greek government sent a cruise ship to the eastern Aegean island to act as a temporary registration center for thousands of stranded migrants With hundreds of refugees arriving in Kos every day The new initiative aims to help prevent recent recurring clashes with the police. The problem will be solved when the European Union understands there's a war in Syria and in other countries, there are major economic problems said the local mayor. And if they don't find a solution for those countries to end the problems then we'll always have immigration problems in Europe."

1:16:52 These people are queuing to get into a stadium on the island which is also acting as a reception center. You gotta see... Reception? Hello visitors! Come to the reception center, yes come into our camps there to keep people out from hurting you kind of They're trying to obtain papers to enable them move around within Greece and elsewhere. For me, I just want to complete my study. I just want to have life and everybody wants like that because they all ran out from the war, from death So it's normal to see all these things because everybody just wants to live. Damaged dinghies and flotation devices regularly wash up on the beaches of Kos, providing further signs of the increased pressure Kashstrakt Greece is under. Oh man! I always get this sense... This is just a gut thing.

1:17:45 Us rubalizing North Africa and the Middle East is responsible for this, and we're doing it on purpose. And we're doing a damn good job! This is Clippity-Clop Lady MacDuff Clinton who was so happy when we killed Gaddafi... So I mean that's the land of unconfirmed videos We came, we saw, he died! Go vote for her. Vote for her! And it's funny that actually the video of that really is disgusting. Yeah, because Uma leads in leans in and goes shows are the Blackberry. Oh he's dead yes but we have and the EU is now they're trying to cut deals amongst everyone in the zone saying look you know you got to take some of these visitors

1:18:40 Italy is Lampedusa. Thousands and thousands of people, they're rolling up in dinghies, they're dying there. Their ships are capsizing 200 people in the hold. Oops sorry you're dead now at the Eurotunnel, the channel between France... Now this another interesting point Well, tell the story about it. I mean... What's happening is you have all these... How is this not one of the world's worst security breaches? Well, it's getting worse so at Calais in France this where there are thousands of visitors who are trying to get into the UK and they're hanging under carriage of trucks, they're getting in freezer trucks and freezing to death or trying to walk the whole thing almost... Yeah, walk the whole thing!

1:19:26 And now the mayor of Calais, they're saying hey someone's got to come in or I'm just going to open the border and screw y'all. Let them all go to the UK which... Oh yeah this is new. This is good! I don't blame him. I think he says you're a fool screw them! Yeah and of course you can't blame him. What are we supposed to do? The guy, it's a disaster And yeah, they're trying to walk the thing. These guys are pouring into England as best they can there was a special on News night and they had some guy from the UK Independent Party showing this reporter bitch in a moment showing the reporter that you know where these guys are hiding and they're all over The place or over by their freeway and they're sure and if there's a backup there days they jump into lorries Yeah, it gets get into London It's just like a nightmare and I can't do anything about it

1:20:21 And what can you do? Get a big ship and bring them all back to Tunisia. You know, this is... I'm gonna have to agree with your assertion that we did this on purpose! Give that crap to the EU! Hey, you know what it's time for us to play... We need to play... What's her name? Hillary no Victoria Newland. What do you think? Oh not that one it would be a Victoria new yeah, that's actually this is what this is This is what she said That's right and that is our entire stance And that's what we're doing just which he said good job congratulations John then the EU seems pretty They've I don't know I think there must be idiots

CHAPTER 27 / 51 Discussion

British Airways, Boeing 777 Cockpit Mystery

An ABC News report details a British Airways Boeing 777 flight where pilots were forced to use oxygen masks due to disorientation and headaches. The cause was eventually identified as trash and old wires blocking a ventilation duct, an incident that has reportedly occurred three times on the same aircraft.

british airways· boeing 777· cockpit· oxygen masks· david curley

1:21:22 What can I say? Yeah. All right, so we talked about this earlier in the show. Again with ABC, this is a David Muir ABC old story leverage report. This is again ABC which I think it's probably the most corrupt of the networks and so far as running... Especially ABC News who have news directors married to insiders in the Obama administration. There's a lot of crossover there. I think they'll catch a lot of native ads, and I think they use leverage which means if you're not advertising with us, you're gonna get blasted because this to me is a hit job and this is an old story. Now none of the other networks are doing this story... Okay so let me understand. You picked up a story which was so obvious

1:22:15 that it was an old story, it was brought back and you identified the native advertising which is the raison d'etre that it was brought back. No, this was not native advertising. This was a hit job and I would say this was one of those leverage things where it's like you guys stopped advertising with us so we're gonna dredge up old stories and embarrass you and maybe we'll do every once in awhile unless you know...you guys wanna get on board? Honestly because this is done. It is a natural thing for publishers to do. And allow me to explain that works both ways

1:22:50 MTV, when Michael Jackson had a new video and before MTV Network's own Black Entertainment Television, BET was getting the World Planetary exclusive Galaxy premieres. And we would say well listen you know we'll make up an award, we'll call it the Michael Jackson Vanguard Video of The Year Award. We'll give the first one to you if you appear on...you know we'll give you a prime spot opening the Video Music Awards And, uh, you know then the, you know, so you give us the planetary premiere and oh yeah. Sony will throw in that piece of crap video that no one wants to play into the buzz bin it's as we put all the hot stuff at plate and three in the morning. Yeah. So that's how it works. And it works. Of course more recently than leveraging of the, of the publisher against the advertisers has been lessened because especially in print publishing because they advertise just all bailed out and you couldn't make them come back

1:23:43 So, they call the shots. We're always bad in an era which I think we're in this era...ABC is apparently not in it but most people are in the era where advertisers push their...throw their weight around or give us a...an ad right next to an article that's very favorable to us will advertise more and that is what...that I believe is the era were in and that's the bad era. Turn to stunning new information tonight about a British Airways flight bound for the U.S last spring, with pilots suddenly feeling disoriented putting on their oxygen masks for an emergency landing and tonight the explanation now here's ABC's David Curley

1:24:21 A mystery at 34,000 feet. Pilots on board a British Airways Boeing 777 flying to Seattle having difficulty concentrating and they're carrying 235 people on board from the start the pilots notice low airflow from the vents and an unusually warm cockpit. At cruising altitude concern grows as they encounter headaches nausea lightheadedness and a lack of concentration let's get on 100% oxygen immediately and then we can troubleshoot the problem They did this just like reading out of a textbook. With no problems in the passenger cabin, the cockpit door normally locked for security is opened to help cool the instruments and ventilate the cockpit The crew dons oxygen masks and the decision is made to return to London In the end it turned out that it was simply trash and old wires blocking a duct and restricting air flow The problem is this is the third time its happened on the plane The airline says they've taken action to make sure it doesn't happen again

1:25:17 David, David Curley with us tonight. David thank you. Okay so was this a slam at British Airways or Boeing? BA right? This wouldn't be Boeing. Yeah Boeing because it's trashed. Boeing has nothing to do with that. Trash. There was trash in the story I read the story different but okay trash. McDonald's wrappers are in there they could have gotten native advertising from McDonald on the story They could've trash and old wires were blocking the vent. And this is the third time this has happened." What is the image you come away with? British Airlines, they don't even own a broom apparently! It reminds me of when we did the Hot Pockets tour with Mustang Sally and it was overheating going through the Rockies. Maybe have to turn on the heat and open the windows to get up the hill. Yeah that's what Boeing has now become

CHAPTER 28 / 51 Discussion

Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger Eugenics History

Dr. Ben Carson's comments regarding Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger highlight her historical ties to the eugenics movement. The discussion explores claims that Sanger targeted minority populations for birth control, a philosophy that was later mirrored by eugenics programs in Nazi Germany.

planned parenthood· margaret sanger· eugenics· ben carson· nazi germany

1:26:10 And you had to open the door. An overheating jalopy! Anyway, I was convinced... because this came out of the blue there was no reason for this story That's good. I like it and yet a second one is just the native advertising you want to do with David Muir? That's what we did that's when they had the oh We have that right right i'm sorry yes very good So I'm good. All right, a little update on Planned Parenthood and you know...I keep following this they've now released the sixth video but the story is so cold by now no one cares luckily though there's one guy out there who i have respect for him doing this and he continues to do it takes it one step further of course this is the genesis of Planned Parenthood

1:26:57 Which we've discussed on the show a long time ago. We've never really done anything about it, we haven't discussed planned pay, but I don't care about it...I don't think too much. Oh! We had the big thing in Texas and we did discuss it. You did a good job on the some of the phony baloney misdirection of the Texas stuff, oh that's right yeah there was a lot of misdirection. And hobby lobby. Yeah well this is ongoing of course the genesis of the company is Margaret Sanger who was a founding member Eugenic Society, I'm going to say. Was it Eugenics Society? Yeah probably yeah and they were very specific about not having the black man impregnate the white woman

1:27:41 All this kind of stuff. And there's only one guy out there who will still recount this history, and he is a Republican candidate. His name is Dr Ben Carson Maybe I'm not objective when it comes to Planned Parenthood but you know I know who Margaret Sanger is And I know that she believed in eugenics and that she was not particularly enamored with black people. Put it lightly. One of the reasons you find most of their clinics in black neighborhoods is so that you can find a way to control that population, and I think people should go back and read about Margaret Sanger who founded this place A woman who Hillary Clinton by the way says that she admires

1:28:25 Look and see what many people in Nazi Germany thought about her. That she was, for targeting certain races... A great person! Yeah it's great! Thank you Dr Ben Carson The Nazis loved Planned Parenthood Especially Margaret Oh, yes. Well the whole eugenics thing which was invented in the United States was adopted by the Nazis Yeah And then it was kind of suppressed after that because it got a bad reputation That's where Mengele came from Got him? Yeah and he got a bad reputation It kinda resurged again

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Population Control, Global Warming Theories

Theories regarding population control are traced from Paul Ehrlich's "The Population Bomb" to modern climate change and vaccination initiatives. Some argue that global warming narratives are used as a ruse to implement policies that slow reproduction cycles, particularly in developing regions like Africa.

population control· paul ehrlich· bill gates· global warming· zero population growth

1:29:04 In the late 60s and 70s with Dr. Ehrlich, who is still around now as promoting global warming which again is a methodology of it's all to cut down on the population he wrote the zero-population growth material and he also had a book right after that called The Race Bomb and now his name still crops up in regards to global warming and how we have to stop growing our population because people... Well, it seems to me if we have global warming coming up which is gonna kill a lot of people wouldn't he be all in? This is good. This controls the population. Well here's what here's the point that you don't know you're missing but you are which since its bull crap It's not going to control the population and he wants to control the population Gotcha So you don't want the global warming thing is just a ruse

1:29:57 It's the things you want to implement that will slow down population growth. And this also leads to the crackpot theories, which even I've propagated during the early 70s where in Maryland at Fort Detrick they invented a number of coincidental diseases that were going to target Africa and kill off kill off the Africans and I don't think, and I think the Africans have always been kind of aware of this. And there was a...I remember in the 70s and you can still look at these old books about about population control that were done in the early 70s and they'd always cite Africa as having too many babies, overpopulating. And even when Bill Gates brings up his thing about vaccinations he says you'll have less kids if everyone's healthy which is currently the real goal is to slow down this reproduction cycle

1:30:52 So... It seems to be working. And it seems to be continuing, even though we're still having more people on the planet and most of the real students of population in today's world see it as a thing that plateaus naturally and not to worry. You know, we can still stuff everybody in the whole world into the state of Texas. That's okay. I hear Oklahoma is nice Don't bring them over here. Okay? I got a couple of emails which i'm going to read now We were discussing the circadian rhythm and this platitude of drugs that are coming out specifically targeting This disorder have you seen them now or it's not seen him Unfortunately when i'm doing these studies, I've gotta stop on one of these Studies are the three networks for three months That's all right Three by three look at the ads Yeah do that

CHAPTER 30 / 51 Discussion

Non-24 Circadian Rhythm, Blindness and Melatonin

A listener provides insight into "Non-24," a circadian rhythm disorder common among blind individuals whose brains do not receive light cues to regulate sleep cycles. The discussion questions whether new medications for the condition are legitimate medical breakthroughs or "scams" designed to repurpose expiring patents.

non-24· circadian rhythm· melatonin· sleep disorder· pharmaceutical ads

1:31:49 I got an email from Kevin, one of our blind listeners. Wanted to send you a quick note regarding your discussion about blind people and circadian rhythm disorder the term used is non-24 That's the term we have to be on the lookout for John Non 24 As a blind person i've had this issue ever since childhood what happens Is your circadian rhythym free runs instead of a cycle Your body clock readjusts itself at random due to the fact that the brain is not getting proper input it needs from light sources in order to regulate the body clock, I spent sleepless night after sleepless night reading books listening to no agenda of course and being a zombified dead man during the day.

1:32:25 Most of us try and regulate using melatonin in order to maintain a normative sleep-wake schedule. As you said, the meds being advertised could be nothing more than a scam or means of repurposing another medication whose patent is about to run out." I didn't check the patents but i understand this is for these service-based slave culture we're creating, where people are working crazy hours, crazy shifts. You're inside you have no...you only have a...you've no natural light and yeah it's ruining people's lives! We're not meant to do this as humans and that... As someone who has worked shift work meaning I worked a week of graveyard, a week of swing shift or a week of regular day

1:33:07 for a little over two years. And where was this? At the Union Oil Refinery in Rodeo, if you work at an oil refinery you have to work shift work it's just I don't know why... Sure well there are lots of jobs that have that sure Yeah and there is lot of shiftworks jobs It's not that big of deal No but in United States of Gitmo Nation we love our drugs so if we do feel good there is a pill for that And if it's good enough for blind people, hello. It's good enough for me." I think the argument that you don't have all these cues because the brain is always looking at what is a day? I know this when you have longer days, you know, you don't eat until late to eat later. There are all these visual cues. Yeah, I can see the blind people have to have

CHAPTER 31 / 51 Discussion

Hypothyroidism, Office Air Conditioning Gender War

The ongoing debate over office temperature and "the war on men" via air conditioning is linked to the high prevalence of hypothyroidism among American women. Symptoms like temperature sensitivity and fatigue are cited as reasons why women may feel colder in professional environments compared to men.

hypothyroidism· thyroid· air conditioning· women's health· office environment

1:34:00 horrible time of that because of that. And I'm seeing some alternative theories to the air conditioning level war on men, where women are being treated so poorly by men in offices keeping it just way too cold for them. But we've probably talked about this on the show but women particularly United States and you know the question is why is this happening? There's lots of answers Close to 60 million Americans, mostly women have hypothyroidism. And the thyroid really isn't discussed a lot I don't think but it really is the director of your systems and you know if

1:34:50 If your thyroid is off, you know this results in anxiety, irritability, achiness muscle weakness fatigue weight loss fluctuations hair loss carpal tunnel syndrome temperature sensitivity constipation. You think it might be for a new drug coming out? It...you know we've been waiting to find out what is going on with these studies They do seem to be like a setup. And there's good thyroid drugs, Thyrax and you can get... Well I'm sure the compounded stuff is going away you can't have that anymore. Can't have natural compounded things we followed that for a couple of years but there may be something to this hypothyroidism A lot of women have it. Well if they didn't have it before they'll have it now Precisely

CHAPTER 32 / 51 Discussion

Shinzo Abe, World War II Apology Stance

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe acknowledged the suffering caused by Japan during World War II but stated that future generations should not be required to continue apologizing. This stance has drawn criticism from South Korea and China, where resentment over wartime atrocities like the Rape of Nanking remains high.

shinzo abe· japan· world war ii· south korea· nanking

1:35:49 All right, well I got a couple things here that are just off the wall. So Abbi, the Japanese guy... Yeah, Japanese dude. So he comes out to do his supposed anniversary or something and he's gonna like not apologize? Well it was 70 years of North Korea when they defeated the Japanese and you know that's why the Koreans went back to their old original time zone half hour before South Korea And we also had the end of the war. And I will note that not a single U.S. president ever, and I don't believe any U.S. dignitary of note has ever been to Nagasaki or Hiroshima to apologize —or even been there as far as I know— just to say hey wow man that's... Well everybody is not apologizing so Obie is taking not apologizing to a new level

1:36:39 In Japan, the prime minister today acknowledged the pain his country inflicted during World War II. But he stopped short of making a fresh apology. Shinzo Abe's statement marks seven decades since Japan surrendered to Allied forces in 1945. On the 70th anniversary of the war, I bow my head deeply before the souls of all those who perished both at home and abroad. I express my feelings of profound grief and my eternal sincere condolences." Over 80 percent of the population were born after the war. These generations and those in the future who have nothing to do with the war should not have to continue apologizing." Resentment toward Japan's wartime actions still runs high in South Korea and China, The Chinese state news agency dismissed Abe statement today as a tuned-down apology

1:37:35 So Abe comes out and says the future generation should not continue to apologize. No one's ever apologized! They've never apologized for the Manchurian situation. Where they cut off women's breasts and stuff? The worst imaginable atrocities, the rape of Nanking... And they never apologize to these Koreans for anything they've ever done to them and so now according to Abe, they shouldn't continue not apologizing! What is the big deal?!

CHAPTER 33 / 51 Discussion

Louisiana Cash Ban, Gold Exchange Restrictions

Louisiana legislation aims to restrict the use of cash for purchasing precious metals, echoing FDR's 1930s ban on gold ownership. Critics argue that the "war on cash" is a method for the government to track all financial transactions and exert total control over the population's ability to spend.

louisiana· cash ban· gold· fdr· money supply

1:38:13 Are they gonna lose so much face that the guy... Yes, yes. It's all about face of course with those guys yeah Beyond me now they don't like doing that I'm seeing What we've been following the war on cash for a long time Was it Louisiana you'll recall Louisiana wanted to do a complete ban on cash even at garage sales Yeah, that didn't get very far and well They have a new version What is it? RS-37 colon 1866. And it still has a line in here that will be illegal... I don't know if its passed, but I'm sure it'll pass It will be illegal to exchange cash dollars for gold or any precious metals. Yeah, In Louisiana

1:39:12 Yeah, you will be able to buy a lawnmower with cash at the garage sale but you will not be allowed to exchange cash dollars for gold or any other... Why? This is a good question. This of course reminds us of the 1930s when FDR banned all ownership of gold. Well he made it illegal to own gold. To own gold yeah well that's... You had to dump it and you had to give it to the government and get the script The people who didn't do that, by the way... which was a violation of law and they stored their gold. They're rich beyond their wildest dreams! Yeah, they're rich! Gold became worth a fortune So I've looked at some economic discussion of this when you have what we have is pretty much zero interest right? Banks pay nothing there's just no interest on cash or on borrowing money On them borrowing from the government

1:40:09 Does this not eventually mean that cash in the system becomes a problem? Well, how well this is what I'm asking you But this is I'm reading things that well the reason. This is being done is because dot-dot-dot Somehow having them on I'm asking you I don't understand That having the cash In the system it has to get out and then we actually don't have a lot of cash running through our system like cash money Well, we have a lot. It's called the money supply. I don't believe...I think our initial thesis on this is more accurate than any of these economic explanations which is that it's easier to control a populace that doesn't have cash so they can spend freely and you can if you have everything done on a card, you can track everybody's purchase where they are what they're doing and you could stop them. You could cut off their money supply with the push of a button. When you're not following the rules

1:41:06 Yeah, yeah. That makes more sense to me even though it sounds nuts! Well... What else would you know? And it's also expensive I mean they have to print these bills every few years and they got a collect them as the whole system in place. Whatever happened to Hillary on the 20th? Whatever happened to that story?! I miss those good stories. Well first there were they decided it was I think this kind of stopped because they realized that That is Hamlet who's on the 20 now. No they want to take a Hamilton Hamilton off yeah, I believe oh No, I thought it was that who's on the 20 then that's Jackson? I haven't seen the 20 in a long time so I got a little hunter. I got Washington's Franklin's Washington's washes baby. I got watching waiting for the big head Washington bill where is it of AT&T

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AT&T and NSA, Partnership Revelations

New documents leaked by Edward Snowden reveal a deep "partnership" between AT&T and the NSA for domestic surveillance. Unlike a standard contractual relationship, the partnership allowed the NSA to eavesdrop on American internet traffic through AT&T facilities, a story previously highlighted by whistleblowers in San Francisco.

at&t· nsa· snowden documents· surveillance· the intercept

1:42:05 has been under scrutiny, thanks to Laura Poitras. James Risen, Henrik Moltke, Jeff Larson, Charlie Savage, Julia Angwin... Big article in the New York Times. Oh! A shocker AT&T helped the NSA eavesdrop on American citizens and we've talked about this since 2008 We, we... the big building in San Francisco. It's not well as news because apparently some Snowden document came out detailing how AT&T was in partnership with the NSA. In fact one document reminds NSA officials to be very polite when visiting the AT&T facilities noting that quote this is a partnership not a contractual relationship it's a partnership so they weren't even I don't think they were getting paid. That's why it was news yeah there was a partnership duh

1:42:59 Along with Verizon actually and who was it? Was it who was a Silent wind guy or big sale with a bini Who's the guy that popped pop the whole story on that secret room in the building on 2nd Street in San Francisco Benny Or one of the other guys. It was one of the guys they do they paid dearly Yeah, why is this not big news geez I don't know so That was I guess their big breakthrough. They thought they entered by have you been looking at The Intercept at all? I think they've got some stories now. They're too long Yeah, they need an editor. They're too hard to the log you just it's like or do a TLDR at the beginning something help us with something It's crap

1:43:41 This should graduate their news coverage. They should have a little thing at the beginning saying, this article is 3,000 words long at the 1500 word mark we'll put in marker and then you don't really have to read anymore." Or just a TLDR at the top AT&T are douchebags they helped the NSA in a partnership The articles need abstracts. Yes, yeah! There you go. Yeah. Abstractive article really does. Really does. So they can get there like a 200 word abstract and then you don't have to read it at all yes they're too long alright I got another thing all right so i'm watching the today show which is loaded with bull crap bull crap I can see why it is the

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Al Roker, McRib Cooking Segment Fail

Al Roker's attempt to demonstrate a homemade McRib sandwich on The Today Show is criticized as a poorly executed "paid plug" for McDonald's. The segment is mocked for Roker's lack of culinary skill, the use of processed pork shoulder, and the obvious pre-formed patties used to mimic the fast-food item.

al roker· today show· mcrib· mcdonald's· cooking segment

1:44:29 I mean, it's the traditional morning show that people watch but it's of the three shows on right now. And you're doing three by three? Well this is not what I'm doing. I'm just doing this casually. This is similar but not the same as The News Hour or News Half Hour. The three networks have these different Good Morning America which is ABC which is a show biz news. It might be like extra to start off with. You might have Mario Lopez as one of the hosts And now, back to Real News.

1:45:20 She's a milky girl. She is very attractive and they do really outstanding round tables, there are a lot of native ads and stuff like that in there too but it's not as annoying as it is on NBC so here we have an NBC segment where Al Roker this kind of long clip but I'm gonna set up when you stop if you feel like it But Al Roker decided or some part of he...I don't even know if he decided somebody made him to do this Somehow, Elroeker's supposedly a cook now. Now that he's lost 300 pounds he is a cook? So he is going to show you how to do your own homemade done-at-home mac rib sandwich. Oh brother! Which is a McDonald's item that is an option they go into a long thing about McDonald's brings them on and off... Wait a minute didn't it just hire the Michelle Obama chef as the

1:46:16 And he's going to be the executive food analyst, the senior food analyst on the network? Maybe but it is not on this show that I can see. Okay So they have Al and anyone who likes to cook and likes to watch cooking shows that would be me You can tell within just a few seconds if the person that is presenting can cook at all Right you know they can't handle things right They don't know how to cut They don't know how to touch things They don't know how to stir It's just...it's a big scam They're just reading and playing along. And this is Al, he doesn't know what he's doing. Bring light to make the ultimate sandwich! The McDonald McRib you know a lot of times it's either on a limited menu or your McDonalds has to decide to put it on the menu well now I'm gonna show you how you can make your own. Is this a call out? To get everyone to go to McDonalds and say we want the McRib Sandwich? Well that makes it kind of interesting because at the very end and actually during this

1:47:15 They blow, I know there were paid plugs all through this thing. They blow them up and at the very end they just completely screw up the bit they're getting made goods from everybody. This is three minutes! Yeah you can... No i'm saying it's three minutes of Nadverdux. I've never had Nadverdux for me. So this is the deal for people who love it and this is how it goes by the way here's the meeting We've got a buy here and we need to do this segment on the McRib. Al, you can do this right? Yeah let's have Al do it. Al is always good with color in the show so let's have Al do it he's perfect! Al you cook don't ya? I'm a great cook! I'm a cook! I'm a cook! Yeah no they're loyal! You get about 1 pound and half 2 pounds of pork shoulder. You're gonna have sugar water some salt. This is Hines.

1:48:07 I'm so. It is hunt barbecue sauce original barbecue sauce, the closest hoagie roll onions and beautiful pickles so you're going to chop this up your put in the food processor cubit okay then you're going to take some saw some sugar off and some water whoa and you're gonna put it in a food processor Pork shoulder, right? So it's pork shoulder. Yeah. Well anyway you get the idea. Put it in. There you go.

1:48:52 And you're gonna grind it up until it gets into these nice little, and you'll form these into four balls. It will make four patties okay? How do you make the McRib shape? Basically if you make the McRib shape by just pressing it down flat You get it into a rectangle Alright What So he's got them, what is said his balls then he has this He's got a gob of this stuff, and there is one in front of the god that is perfectly shaped. And he's trying to shape his into the same shape and it's sticking to his fingers... It's just like he doesn't know what the hell to do! So by pounding on it so he skips it kind of gives up on his own little thing then takes the other one which has already been preformed and starts making it into this you know he takes a chopstick and makes little lines in it anyway play on

1:49:40 And then what you're going to do is if you remember if you ever had the mcrib it actually is like a boneless rib patty. There's no meat in any of their problems and intentions so that they're like little mini riblets okay, let's take those put on the sheet with parchment paper and you can put this in the freezer till its frozen time because just kind of get firm All right, so we got one already here. So they'll keep saying all right and okay Yeah, which is not it's not alright and it probably doesn't look so okay now shape Now you're gonna heat a pan. Alright Take those out whenever your rice if you cook out or whatever

1:50:19 whatever. I want to be ready for the night nonstick pan, I don't know what it's like but this is a brown on each side all right you're going to take them and you're going put them in the oven bacon for a little bit but first you got to put some barbecue sauce on him as you have put into the oven okay let me guess and then your pet what Okay, all right. Okay? Okay meantime you're browning your hoagie roll okay take your Hoagie Roll and put the patty on top now very important pickles and raw onion Very important and that's pretty much it get a spoon on a little more sauce if you'd like

1:50:56 Oh, sauce. Ladies and gentlemen you have your homemade McRib. And to get the recipe go to today dot com slash food take on restaurant review Ted and that my friends is so good. The exact it's awesome. It's not I mean look You can't get the McDonald's fries with this. Why? Because you can't make them. We should extend the redo week and you do fries! And could we get a shake? I'll fry it with that. Thank you. I'll work on that, but in meantime, Janelle Monae, artist from Wonderland hitting the stage one more time for their hit song Classic Man right after these messages. What a bunch of idiots

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Phone Zombies, Pedestrian Safety Statistics

A 15% increase in pedestrian deaths since 2009 is attributed to "phone zombies" distracted by mobile devices. The term "nomophobia" (no-mobile-phone phobia) is discussed as a potential new psychiatric disorder, illustrated by a macabre story of a man killed by a rollercoaster while trying to retrieve his phone.

phone zombies· pedestrian deaths· nomophobia· dsm-5· distracted walking

1:51:44 I don't think i'd want a real one after this. Not after this! There's the whole deal down the drain If it you know, I gotta tell you people watching this and and I give you...I have you..I hold in very high regard John that you sit through this crap your brain must hurt doesn't it? I'm laughing too hard No but its....the people that watch this This there was an interesting report, which is not something we don't know But it's always good to reiterate first glance the mishaps of a person falling while using their cell phone can be funny but the number of injuries and even Fatalities associated with the act story. I love this story III didn't clip it

1:52:25 I love the story. I just thought it was kind of macabre, but it's good! It is no laughing matter They're pretty much strapped to them 24 hours a day According to the recently released Governor's Highway Safety Association since 2009 there has been a 15% increase in pedestrian deaths most recent full data recorded as from 2013 where there were more than 4700 deaths equaling to one pedestrian killed in the US every two hours Outstanding this is great Oh, I thought you were taking it to the next level. Well what'd you think? It's not done but tell me... The guy who got killed running under a roller coaster to get his phone! Isn't that great?! That's a great story and he got decapitated just with head taken off. I gotta have my phone! My phone! What is it nomophobia this the term

1:53:21 No, I never heard this. Nomophobia? Yeah. No mobile phobia. The phobia of not having a mobile phone. Psychiatrists are saying it's real DSM-5 baby! Nomophobia. Just leave my phone at home... I do regularly when i'm walking around Austin and it's tempting but I turn my phone off. I just walk through the street you know but don't go that far. I go down to 2nd and Lavaca and then I'll go to the Spin studio And I just see all these women filing into the spin studio and they're all, their necks are cramped down. They're all looking at their phones... Why? What is so important? Are they surgeons waiting for a call? I have done some investigative research for you. Ah! Glad you asked The number one application used by phone zombies in the streets of Austin Texas is Instagram and this is something that's really beyond me

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Instagram vs Twitter, Social Media Psychology

Instagram is analyzed as the most "modern" social network because it focuses on singular, captioned photos that prevent the conversational "strewn out" nature of Twitter. The discussion also touches on the declining quality of standard GSM cell phone calls compared to data-based FaceTime calls.

instagram· twitter· facebook· zombification· call quality

1:54:19 I mean, I think it's gotten to the point where the only thing we care about for our impulse to give us that Pavlovian response but also to participate in the system...we don't even need words anymore. Because when you post a picture on Instagram, I think you can do just a caption pretty much. I don't know if you can do more than that? Most people don't. No no! You could write out of the lecture. Oh you can? Well they don't do it Some do. It's just a picture that tells 1,000 words and then all the feedback comes in oh that says a nice birdie! That lunch looks great Congratulations. I hope you had fun So sad RIP rip rip rip Oh yes my heart goes out to you You're in my prayers Our family loves you Instagram is considered right now To be the most important of the social networks owned by Facebook which probably their wisest decision they ever made I agree

1:55:11 And we'll talk about this at the dinner table. What's interesting is that if you take a look at Facebook, Twitter and Instagram as the big three... Instagram is the most modern just by accident I don't think anyone really thought this out very thoroughly but when you start looking at how it works compared to like Twitter, Twitter is like a bunch of people yacking in every which way and every direction It's not very well focused With Instagram, you focus on your picture. You take a picture of something...your dinner, your maid, your dog or cat and you post it with maybe a note maybe not so it's always a captioned photo as opposed to just straight up photo which you could do in Twitter

1:55:52 And then the action that follows the photos being posted is singular to that photo. It doesn't get mixed up with other messages, it's very...it's just THAT! It's like a standalone whole skit and is there with all of your little comments With Twitter you can kind of cut...you can kinda make a little like... Yeah, it gets strewn out. Yeah, strewn out. It's different And even with Facebook, because I'm using it more and more to see...to understand it better. Sounds like a good excuse doesn't it? If you reshare this is a mistake they're making if you re-share a post then the comments go only on your re-share and not on the original which I think is also a mistake

1:56:46 Hmm. Yeah, isn't then everything's also split up now whatever but my point being the zombification is here and Just do it just walk around this you know just pay attention to people And I think this is where little mini air horn comes in handy Just once in a while just right next to somebody make them jump they would too Well, I never thought of grilling people. They're always wandering around looking at the phone is this they don't you know There's all this cool stuff around you yeah But they'd rather see a picture of someone's puppy no food lunch

1:57:25 Or lunch. Yeah, a lot of food photos. Or how cute your kid is! My kid is so cute. Look my kid ate peas... My lunch was so good and my kid is so cute yeah I can see why people get depressed Now do you think that the next generation of human resources will make it worse or will they rebel? You know we're already seeing the Millennials going back to the 80's like in vinyl or is that just transitory? Do you think that's just...? I think it's like the Millennials are the ones who I rarely talk on the cell phone or the mobile phone. They are always texting, they're the ones who promote the idea of text...if you start texting, you can't call it's like a rule and it's to violate the rule if your texts back and forth back and forth then that's so confusion reigns and somebody decides to give up and they call? They have violated the rules! I will also say I made a call the other day, I rarely make calls man this is so shit

1:58:19 The quality of cell phone calls has just diminished. It's better to make a FaceTime call with someone over the data than it is to use the actual GSM networks, it's crap! That's terrible, that quality stinks...the old pin drop commercials are dead. I used landlines I don't have the bake...I do actually have a Bakelite phone, but it's up north. Alright It's got a dial on it. Dials don't work! As a callback to breakfast at Tiffany's Do you remember the gift they go and try to buy for $10 at Tiffany's? No, I forgot A sterling silver phone dialer

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No Agenda Producer Credits, Mile High Club

The hosts read the names of Executive and Associate Executive Producers who supported the show through the "value-for-value" model. Special recognition is given to members of the "Mile High Club" who donated $52.80, alongside birthday shout-outs and local donor acknowledgments.

no agenda· mile high club· donations· executive producers· value-for-value

1:59:14 Was it a phone dialer? Yeah, you remember those yeah you stick your finger in the thing so you don't yeah It was like a little little like a Like a glorified pencil people used to dial the phone with them with it with a pencil with the eraser end of the pencil Yeah good times. I think that's true. I don't barely remember This program is brought to you by the producers of The No Agenda Show, that is people like you. Instead of what NPR or PBS or any other government-controlled public media around the world we actually do things you want. You give us stories, you support us in many ways including financially and this is the part where we want to thank all our producers and your not listening to your producers who are helping us bring The No Agenda Show to life twice a week. Exactly

1:59:58 Sir DH Slammer starts off the list here with $105, which is actually what he claims to be two of the simultaneous Mile High clubs for himself and Dane Bangbang. And Dane Bangbang who I think doesn't she already have a lifetime membership? The Mile High Club? You better ask her as some anonymous from somewhere California comes in with 100 dollars and this one says it was Sheki Bahuda It's shaky. Oh, right. Shakey boohoo. That's a checky checks and shakey green shakey green shakey bohoota I'm a long time. He wrote a note in I sense his handwritten. I thought I'd read it I'm a longtime douchebag more of a deuce douche nozzle if you ask me I have finally gotten around to donating Please don't dedouche me save it for someone more deserving or less fortunate than I And he says why are there no ho-hos and yo who yohus?

2:00:56 You who's no ho-hos and you who's when you do the nights well, maybe if you got a knighthood. You could add that Yeah wouldn't hurt Paul Webb in Twickenham, Middlesex 6969. Nicholas Samaras in Earlesville Virginia these are both birthday people 6007. Yeah got him Charles Ackley in Point Pleasant Beach New Jersey another birthday 5678 Sean Doherty in Overland Park Kansas Gary Owens in Lost Wages, Nevada. And these are 5280s. These are Mile High Clubs. Mark Alynxdale Smile High Club's... When do we have the webpage John? The full webpage? John Stossel The web I'm working on it now. I should have some before the next show but by Thursday there'll be a webpage with almost everybody's name on it. Mark Alynxdale Now I am writing it down. John Stossel Okay and you can call me out right after I call you out on the Hillary prediction although I give you another extra day after that.

2:01:54 Where was I? John Dahl, Gary Owens in Los Wages. Eric... Vessel Dyke. Vessel Dyke in Burlington North Dakota. John Helmar in Shawnee Kansas Kevin McLaughlin in Locust North Carolina. Nice name for a town. Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Michigan Beach. Virginia is always around. Always nice to see him. Sir Richard Leiter in Lincoln Nebraska Nick? Johannes in Prior Lake, Minnesota. Nuts! Chris Novak in Sparks Nevada Armando Guerra There he is our mail carrier here in Austin I miss you He's now a member of the Mile High Club and he's in Bee Cave Texas That's what those mail guys do Daniel Rudin We had this guy who was a UPS... not UPS Yeah UPS, parcel

2:02:54 Just great looking guy, still works there. Great looking guy years and years about 10 years ago when he was just a... Let me guess? Was he servicing the clientele? It would be so funny because you know I was like later on in this round, he'd show up at 8 Howdy, man. How you doing? He had those direct the hot shorts on he didn't have that you didn't wear the shorts huh he didn't need him Daniel Rudin Cedar Rapids Iowa 5280 he also had a story once about how it was offered job at web van but he thought he'd keep this job good choice it was Eric Mankiewicz in so I think it's McCarrow it's McCarrow McCarrow is okay and

2:03:37 Where is this? Socorro, New Mexico. Yeah 5280 William Brannick in Calgary Ontario where all the money used to be sir Daniel Foster and what is Maynard's Maynards Maynardville Maynardville Tennessee Oliver Reich in South San Francisco I can actually see South San Francisco from here Aaron Huber in Patak tick-box Israel Israel mmm good Niche this is looks like Nico de han that this is go to Han is our Martial arts night we stayed with him on one of the Hot Pockets tours Dutch guy martial art he could he could F you up in a second probably

2:04:27 I Baldwin's Ville, New York. Gary Howell in Houston Texas Brian and a lot of people in the Mile High Club. Yeah, Brian Watson sir Brian Watson if I'm not mistaken in Raleigh North Carolina 5280 Sir Trevor Baxter in Aurora Indiana I'm sorry for Brian Watson a quick note here mile high club for Ken my grandfather who died of old age tonight

2:05:09 He will be and he will love you for that man. He will love you for that Jason Peterson in Austin, Texas Francis Thomas hockey is it funny? No it's not funny isn't remarkable I caught myself That on Instagram, that's right. That's right you know I'm sorry. I have not been able to catch up. I'm catching myself The healing has begun. I'm catching myself It's it's remarkable that on Facebook and Instagram when someone dies like oh rip RIP We're sorry all my heart go out to you. Oh your family don't find a middle find a place Don't worry it'll all be good during our prayers your enough thoughts so sad And in no agenda show it's like fuckers mile-high club

2:05:56 Yeah, live it up! Well that would be the New Orleans attitude. That's the difference. You know they have a celebration. That's right that's the difference yeah you this is a pit that you should run to pet peeve or are gonna have to if you keep bitching about it. I'll do it. Celebrate, celebrate Mile High. I think everyone who dies who listens to the show should automatically become a posthumous member of The Mile High Club Benjamin Ritgers in Ames, Iowa. Larry Stewart in Norman, Oklahoma. Matthew Hastert in I don't know Bowles somewhere. How do you pronounce it? Bowlstung? Bowlsburg? I'd say Bowlsburg yeah Bowlsburg. Bowlsburg Pennsylvania nuts Tyler Sandberg in Gearing Nebraska Maxime

2:06:49 Belon, belon. Oh that's right she is in Quebec. Laval, Quebec. It could be a he. Maxime could be a he. Maxime could be, that's true. Uh... Ty Owl? Oville. Oville! Oville. Awful. Awful. Get a knighthood and name yourself something else. Anthony Bella Bullock in Seddon, Victoria. Andre Klaus in Den Haag. Excellent! I've been there. Yes. And the miniature world Maduro Dom

2:07:37 Yeah, and then here's wow. And now we have another Dutchman right in the row you can do this Jergen Timmer Swedish chef on board no Jeroen Timmer Jeroen Timmer in Wagensborgen Have we talked about this in the second world war? No. When, okay if you've never watched Soldier of Orange this is a great movie You can read the book it's even better but it's a great movie and to test that you were a spy only the Dutch can say the H sound Even the Germans can't say so they would have them say Scheffeninge Scheffeninge Exactly, you'd be shot on sight I would be! I'd be a dead man Yes

2:08:26 Well, and then the next one is from Belgium which is similar Backup Dutch people in case you wanna take Devon their current crown Chardik von der crown jar chart ik van de kraan in you pit You pillar you pillion unleash the edge liege liege And that's it. That's our Mile High Club. Yeah, there you go. It finished off kind of interesting with another random number example. At 5150 is Ryan Kessler out of Raleigh North Carolina Peter McDonnell at 5011 parts unknown and the following and last but not least are the group of people that came in with $50 most of them come in by checks or they're automatic payers

2:09:10 Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia. John Camp in Antlers Oklahoma, one of my... I just love the name of that town and it's second only to Gnawbone Indiana. Jason Zeisler in Renner South Dakota. Simon Horne in Manly Queensland Australia Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas Chris Sluinski Sir Chris Sluinski in Sherwood Park Alberta Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex UK. Thank you UK! John Haller in Missoula Montana Dame Melody Mann in Ringo Louisiana Why is she lit up here? Usually means there's a note

2:09:56 Or it came in as a check, maybe? It came in as a check. Yes. Sir Mark Tanner who comes often from Whittier California closes it...it's really funny because we get a lot of these and there are books you'll know by from 30 bucks to 50. There is no 49s or anything like that. Should I be laughing hysterically at how fun this is? Yeah, you should but you weren't. Because it's not funny. So you've got me saying it instead, that's how you do this! It's not funny You push it over to the other guy That's right Take it Anyway I want to thank all these folks for helping us out and especially the members of the Smile High Club I don't know what is going to happen when they fall off

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir David Colby

Sir David Colby is officially knighted as a "Black Knight" of the No Agenda Round Table following a previous administrative error. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "Hookers & Blow" menu, welcoming him to the elite group of show supporters.

knighting· black knight· david colby· no agenda· roundtable

2:10:37 It reminds you to go to Dvork.org slash NA Yes, and I wanted to give a quick little karma shout out to Jared Hall His wife is pregnant with the third child ever having just recently had a miscarriage So any karma you can send our way may result in this baby being named after you or John Oh Here ya go! That's double dose Just remember who did that for you Can you imagine a girl named Adam? That would suck so bad. I asked for the double dose Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you did Alright thank you all very much A special lots of thanks to everyone under the $50 level which is mainly done for purposes of anonymity and Of course we have all our monthly subscribers Our weeklies We've got 10's, 10s 11's, 11's 12's, 12's 33's, 33's We really appreciate it Thank you so much Devorac.org slash N-A

2:11:31 And we say happy birthday to William LaRock comes from Nicholas Samaras. William turns 32 or turned 32 on the 14th Paul Webb celebrating today Nick Johannes says happy birthday to his hetero life mate Kent Anderson Celebrating tomorrow and finally Charles Ackley says happy birthday is girlfriend Natasha turning 28 years old On August the 19th, happy birthday from your Uncle Adam and Uncle John! No nightings. Zero nightings We do have David Colby Oh wait What is this? No this is a black night what is this This is something else what's going on here

2:12:12 We got a couple things here. I got one, I got David Colby... he becomes a Black Knight? What about Nicholas and Charles they're all lit up No no! On those birthdays, nevermind They don't lit up. They're jacked up man. They're all lit up. No um this must be a make good. I don't think there's a make-good on there Well it says Sir David Colby black knight so we did i recall an email John Okay, well just knight him. Does he have a special title he wants? Well yeah it's Sir David Colby Black Knight and you know... okay thank you at least I got the sword luckily Alright David Colby come on by sir

2:12:50 It looks like we screwed it up. I think we screwed it up on the previous episode So, we are very proud to have you join the roundtable of The Knights and the Danes And I hereby pronounce the KD Sir David Colby Black Knight Of The Noah's Inn Round Table For You My Friend We Have Hookers & Blow, Red Boys & Chardonnay Shibari & Fat Rooster Craft Beer Chief Wine & Chili Dogs We Have Progressive Rock & Russian Imperial Stout Puppies & Tailored Vintage Pork Malted Barley The mutton and meat is always available. It's so easy to make, which is why we have it on tap And thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe go to noagendannation.com slash rings It was a big article interviewing Jarl Mohn You know Jarl? Yeah He is the

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Syracuse University, Newhouse School Media Panel

One of the hosts has been invited to represent podcasting on a media panel at Syracuse University's Newhouse School of Public Communication. The panel includes NPR CEO Jarl Mohn (formerly Lee Masters), and the discussion is expected to focus on the future of broadcast versus digital media.

syracuse university· newhouse school· jarl mohn· npr· lee masters

2:13:44 CEO of National Public Radio, also known as Lee Masters everybody. And he used to be my boss at MTV and... Yeah you like talking about him He's a good guy In fact I'm going to be on the panel. I've been invited to New York Syracuse University has a media school which is pretty famous what is it called? The Syracuse Media School No I don't think its called that. Um...Syracuse...it's uh or yeah What is it? It's very named after someone, like Walter Cronkite or something. Communications... Dan Rather Media School Let's look it up for a second. Yeah Newhouse! Newhouse School of Public Communication Oh, Newhouse the family Is that not famous? Yeah, Newhouse, guys who own USA Today used to Right But I'm going to be in a panel and I will be representing podcasting Go podcasting!!

2:14:38 Uh, Yarl. Yarl who I will...I guarantee I will consistently say Lee to him just to piss him off. You know we got Lee Masters up here. Yarl his name is Yarl and who can pronounce that? Yarl Mone but anyway And I said I committed I said- Sarah Palin and just asked if you could call him Joe Okay Thanks for the call back to eight years ago That's fine But I said can I have a uh honorary degree If I do this? Yes. Yeah, no! No...no, I can't have that. Oh you have to be a big donor. But he...yeah but in this interview he said- He has a couple of interesting quotes here

2:15:28 The question is... You know, I pulled that stunt once. What stunt? Try and get a degree? Well, I was getting booked for speech in Kentucky at some event. I don't know if it was a government event or what but I'd heard like a couple months earlier Stuart Alsop had been granted a Kentucky colonelship Nice! And so I said you know well do this but i want to become a Kentucky Colonel And the guy says, I can do that. What's a word you want to hear? Does it come with...I could do that! Yeah and so i got one. I got a certificate. So I'm okay and they send me there once while I get something in the mail telling me to buy something Could you put that in the newsletter? Could you put your Kentucky colonelship in the newsletter with a picture of you wearing your sash They never sent me anything. You have to buy this sash. Okay If still have this sash I'm sending you I could wear that one. So uh you have no isn't there a sash waiting in my P.O box

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Jarl Mohn, Radio as the Cockroach of Media

NPR CEO Jarl Mohn described broadcast radio as the "cockroach of media," arguing that it is resilient and impossible to kill despite the rise of digital platforms. The upcoming Syracuse panel will feature representatives from Spotify, SiriusXM, and public radio to debate the survival of traditional antennae-based broadcasting.

jarl mohn· npr· broadcast radio· spotify· siriusxm

2:16:27 It's sitting on the table here. Send it off already, I have chicks who want to model it for us for the newsletter! Okay okay! So this interview is with Current.org When I was prepping for this interview I came across a prediction that Vivian Schiller had made when she was NPR CEO This is the woman who said advertising is down whatever you wanna call it She said, Internet radio would be replacing terrestrial radio within 10 years. We're now five years into that decade... What's your prediction about the future of terrestrial versus internet radio? And here is Yarl Mohn. This is gonna be so easy when I'm on this panel. Quote, Broadcast Radio Is The Cockroach Of Media. You can't- What?! Let me finish the quote! Broadcast Radio Is The Cockroach Of Media. You can't kill it and you can't make a go away It just gets stronger and more resilient

2:17:19 Yeah, no. Please! He really thinks that? That's a terrible analogy. They have a big problem trying to flow this money back in because people just get into podcasts... Well they're you know what it is they were living high on the hog. Because they had that 200 million dollar endowment that one year and they just went whooo whatever. Money from everywhere and it was rolling And now they have to live like a normal radio operation. Which is crap, it's right above shoveling elephant poop! And quit show business? Heyyyy! Alright... This is cyber season- Wait a minute you haven't finished! You want to hear the rest of it?! I just want to know what you're going to be doing up there are you just gonna talking about cockroaches? Yes It's about the future broadcast media in particular radio

2:18:19 So I'm just going to bring my... Is this a major event where there's a lot of panels and you're on one of them? No, it is one specific event. One day, one time only but i will give you more details as they trickle in but I've been confirmed uh to be on the panel And who else is gonna be on the panel this is important Well Yarrell um You really want me to dig up the email? I can find it pretty quickly I want to know who's gonna be on this panel if I should make a trip out there Don't threaten that, stop. Let me tell you who's on the... please Here we go We have ummm let me get the whole list here because they sent out a new now They want to know how many people are on it but I don't like big panels Okay, we have... I don't like panels at all! We have Edward J Gorham He's from Syracuse he may be the moderator no Douglas H Quinn i think is the moderator then we have Andrew Moss from SiriusXM

2:19:14 We have Dionne Levingston from MS Broadcasting. This is all radio, we have Genevieve something or other from PRX which is the public radio exchange and then we have Sandy Smollins from Spotify. Okay so we have one internet music operation which is very interesting... Well I think they'll probably be talking about how they are now adding podcasts and netcasts and all that kind of stuff. Oh by the way kiss that person's ass Okay, done. Sandy Smallins? I don't know what gender you are but your ass is about to get moist

2:19:53 Yeah, you should do that. And so we have that and then a real podcaster again the man who invented it! And I'm gonna have my award and hold it over my head go GO PODCASTING!!! And then you're going to have a satellite radio which is alien to the rest of broad real broadcasting correct? Correct. Then you have one or two broadcasters that are antenna based yeah and and and Jarl Right, who's antenna based. He's riding the cockroach! Hey Lee how is that ride in the cockroach going for you? They have antenna-based and internet based leading toward antennae. I can't wait... hey did you hear about this story because it was in Los Angeles And at first I thought oh what a nice story This is kind of cool These shadow balls

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Los Angeles Reservoir, Shade Ball Controversy

The deployment of 96 million "shade balls" in the Silmar Reservoir to prevent evaporation is met with skepticism regarding water health. Critics suggest that blocking UV rays may allow bacteria to thrive, though proponents argue the plastic balls are a cost-effective alternative to a physical reservoir cover.

shade balls· los angeles· silmar reservoir· water treatment· uv rays

2:20:45 You heard about the shadow balls? Yeah, millions of balls they dropped into the reservoir. Yeah! They dropped these 96 million chemically treated balls were dropped into the Silmar Reservoir. It's cheaper than buying a big cover. Yeah and I thought at first this is what a cute idea this woman who did it you know she mortgages her house and it was a great success story however Now I'm reading that this is probably going to poison the population of Los Angeles because the UV rays are actually very important to the health of the water. You don't want to stop the UV because it actually kills off bacteria

2:21:36 Well, this is going to depend on whether the water gets treated before it gets to the population. And who knows what the balls are treated with? The balls are fine. They get plastics nowadays that can do this without causing problems if they were... You know what I would do if they run into an ozone treatment that would be the way to go. That's the stuff that does the best job of cleaning up water without making a taste like crap but okay. Well, they did the balls thing so we'll see Well since you're on that I get to go back to another stupid story. Okay, this wasn't stupid the population of Los Angeles could be in dire Oh they only drink bottled water down there okay? They just used them. They just use that water for their lawns and pools Now so i'm watching the today show So now they have another segment they have it This is not part of your three by three You're doing a lot of this

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Baltimore Crab Segment, Shellfish Allergy Irony

A Today Show segment featuring a reporter in Baltimore learning to pick blue crabs is mocked for its absurdity. The reporter reveals she has a severe shellfish allergy and must wear rubber gloves, meaning she cannot actually eat the "fruits of her labor" during the promotional travel piece.

baltimore· blue crab· shellfish allergy· native advertising· today show

2:22:35 Well, I just happen to... Do we need to have a dead man switch system where if you get sucked in and can't pull yourself out that if we don't get a message every 24 hours? You'll get a message. Okay, we know to come and follow the police is tricky. So, they have this dingbat girl who goes out in the field and she just doesn't know what...she's not very bright. And they send her to some town at Garden City or something in Baltimore and she's gonna go and it's all native advertising. Suggestions that get you a life alert? Yeah well let's check...that's why I don't go to the chat room because there are bunch of ages A-holes. Correct!

2:23:14 So, she goes to Baltimore and this segment that follows...and she didn't even have to bring any of this up by the way. But it's just ridiculous. Now she's playing some crab place to get the blue crab and she's gonna go in there and crack a few of them but she has to reveal to us while raving about these crabs that she is allergic to shellfish that winning, I'd worked up quite an appetite. And summer isn't summer in Maryland without tasting the blue crab bounty of the Chesapeake Bay! So we hopped on over to Blue Crab House and Raw Bar where owner Cole Towson showed me the ropes of crab picking. To pick like a pro

2:23:56 Cole says you need the right tools. A mallet, a picking knife and in my case rubber gloves thanks to an unfortunate shellfish allergy. Despite not being able to indulge in the fruits of my labor, my picking skills had me feeling like a local. Sorta... There's nothing in mine! It's because you pulled an arm out. What? Oh! No wonder we're turning into brain dead zombies Now the line at the end is the one that kept it clear Yeah mine is empty Yeah Mine is empty and his retort is That's because you've pulled it out already

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Cyber Season, Legislative Proposals and Funding

"Cyber Season" in Congress involves a flurry of bills including CISA and the Federal Cyber Security Enhancement Act. These proposals include billions in funding for the Department of Defense, the Einstein 3 surveillance system, and cybersecurity upgrades for the IRS and Department of Veterans Affairs.

cisa· einstein 3· cybersecurity· department of defense· irs

2:24:41 Then she goes you got to play that a little bit at the end, and then she goes oh like like She would die this is a discovery Wow I better get this something else because this isn't bad. You're in trouble my friend You're failing me. I'm x-ing it off, don't worry! I'm not going to play any more anything else that's kind of funny. Cyber season John! Cyber season is upon us and i want to keep track of all these different legislative proposals that are moving...that will be moving through uh Congress once everyone reconvenes and just have them in a row And this is all your show notes That its cyber season Here's what coming up So we have CISA That the Computer Information Sharing Act We have the Protecting Cyber Networks Act

2:25:34 which would authorize within the ODNI, the Cyber Threat Intelligence Integration Center. Which was established by the Obama administration Then we have... The Federal Cyber Security Enhancement Act We have the Einstein Act You'll recall this This is to implement Einstein 3 And then we also have the Appropriation Act, which will also put in a $9.5 billion line item for Department of Defense for cyber operations. 1.4 billion at the Department of Homeland Security that includes 480 million for the Einstein system 514 million dollars for cyber investigations at the Department of Justice 242 million for upgrades at the IRS

2:26:23 $262 million for the Department of Health and Human Services, $180 million for the Department of Veterans Affairs and $187 million for the Department of Commerce. Actually there may be even more... This is cyber season! Cyber season John! And your NOAA agenda show will be all over all these bills I don't think i'd even heard of that last one The Federal Cyber Security Enhancement Act And that is... The internet has ruined the world. Yeah, it is well there's no Internet you wouldn't have any of this these expensive needs so we had the big Aspen Institute gathering yeah Walter Isaacson tell me about Walter Isaacson he wrote to Steve Jobs book but he was there

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James Comey, ISIS Crowdsourced Terrorism

FBI Director James Comey, speaking at the Aspen Institute, described ISIS as a "crowdsourced" terrorism model that differs significantly from Al Qaeda. He claimed ISIS uses Twitter to reach "troubled souls" and "troubled older people," urging them to either join the caliphate or "kill where they are."

james comey· fbi· isis· twitter· crowdsourcing

2:27:14 He wrote the book on Steve Jobs. No, but what does this have to do with the Aspen Institute? How did he have time to write all these big thick books and then run this institute? Oh okay that's why I didn't know...He runs The Institute! I didn't understand that Yes And we had Brolf was on deck and you know how much i hate this when we have news reporters doing these little private conferences and I'm pretty sure Brolf made 75k on this I don't think that much. He's a top guy, man No he is not that high They love him though they love him at these things If he got 50 i'd be shocked And Comey was on Now James Comey director of FBI formerly board member HSBC during the shenanigans the laundering drug money and most famously of course What? Come on man What? He threw Martha Stewart in jail Oh!

2:28:10 You know, you can give up on this. I'm never going to make that...I can't do it! You're the one who found the association. I can't do the joke." But he's now full of memes and he has some, I thought actually refreshing views on encryption which we need to discuss. And I pulled in, now these are all quickies, quickie clips but it's a number of them because Comey is just a beautiful source of mockery. Now you say ISIL some of us say ISIS some have said Islamic State it's all the same thing Is that now a bigger threat to the US homeland than Al Qaeda? I love how Brohlf just sets it out there. ISIS, ISIL, IS it's all the same thing Yes

2:28:56 Yeah, the threat that ISIL presents poses to the United States is very different in kind and type and degree than Al Qaeda. ISIL is not your parents' al-Qaeda it's a very different model And by virtue of that model It's currently the threat we're worrying about in the homeland most of all So he's all hip now. Hello 1991 calling, wants its Chevrolet reference back please? I'm surprised he doesn't say where is the meat! Where is the beef?! Where is the cyber!? Alright, Brolf continues and has lots of good questions because we need to be very worried about ISIS that it's not your daddy's Al Qaeda. ISIS is very dangerous Why is ISIS so powerful

2:29:44 Well, they have adopted a model that takes advantage of social media in a way to crowd source terrorism. Crowd-source terrorism John, back it up! It's the kickstarter...it's the Al Qaeda Kickstarter. Yeah, it's the ISIL GoFundMe Well, they have adopted a model that takes advantage of social media in a way to crowdsource terrorism. They have invested about the last year in pushing a message of poison primarily through Twitter but other parts of social media that is a siren song with two dimensions. They are preaching through social media to troubled souls, urging them to join their so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq or if you can't join kill where you are... Kill where? You gotta write this down! Kill where you are, troubled souls

2:30:32 What else? There's more. And Twitter is a... I got the good ones down! What do you have, what do you have? Oh well I've got crowd-sourced terrorism not your parents Al Qaeda Martha Stewart Cyber season also I have kill in place which i think is a better one. And it's and it's a good one It's this one that will come back. Preaching through social media to troubled souls Troubled souls, you got that one We're not gonna use it. He's going to use it over and over again. ...to join their so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq, or if you can't join kill where you are... Can you join kill where you are? Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works. Okay hold on a second uh no! Twitter is failing. Twitter is NOT valuable. Twitter should be purchased by the US government

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FBI Twitter Surveillance, Talk To A Terrorist

James Comey's assertion that Twitter is a "valuable enterprise" for selling ideas is mocked, given the platform's financial struggles. The FBI director's focus on monitoring "ISIL tweeters" and their 21,000 English-language followers is viewed as a justification for extensive surveillance and the use of "honeypot" investigations.

twitter· fbi· james comey· direct messaging· honeypots

2:31:20 to catch all these terrorists. Twitter is bad! Just to add one... Okay, we have people in the Washington DC area that can go look stuff like this up because you actually have to go there I want to know if this guy owns stock on Twitter? Well he better be short! Well i don't think he is that's why it says a valuable enterprise It's not a valuable enterprise! They've not made any profit It's a losing, money-losing enterprise that is rudderless. People are running away from this in droves no one wants to work there anymore. Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works to sell shoes or ideas Has this guy ever been on twitter? Sell shoes?! What are you talking about? Twitter won't let you go sell shoes on twitter! Wait a minute I don't think he has actually been on twitter ever! Sell shoes!?

2:32:10 What's he talking about? And Twitter is a valuable enterprise because it works to sell shoes or to sell ideas. Ideas! It works to sell... Hey, Twitter why don't you verify me then maybe you'll become valuable This message to troubled souls Troubled souls Again I talk about your parents Al Qaeda and I mean to convey the sense that the model is just totally different Right with al-Qaeda if you wanted to consume their propaganda You had to go find it somewhere on the web You'd read their magazine. If you want to talk to a terrorist, you might send an email in... Remember! Talk to a terrorist? Call 1-800 to their magazine and hope that somebody answers you. ISIL has changed that model entirely because ISIL is buzzing on your... Terrorists are on the line right now! It's line three! I wanna call my terrorists. Hold on let me see if i can call a terrorist. Let me see where is my terrorist here we go

2:33:10 Hello? Hey, is this a terrorist? Abdul. Hey Abdul! How you doing I saw your preaching to lost souls on Twitter and i feel really compelled to call you I need to talk to a terrorist. Are you okay? Problem yes, but I feel like I needed to talk to a terrorist. I think i'm radicalizing I'm self-radicalizing. I don't know if i'm doing it right are you wearing shorts Uh yeah, yeah, i'm wearing shorts good Okay That's the beginning okay What else do I need to do are you sure your terrorist on I have a shirt on Yes Can you take this shirt off hey wait a minute is my webcam on It is.

2:33:54 all day long and if you want to talk to a terrorist they're right there on twitter direct messaging. Oh, hold on a second let me DM at TalkToATerrorist can somebody please register Talk To A Terrorist on Twitter? At TalkToATerrorist please do that immediately for you to communicate with and so they've invested in months and months of pushing this message and it resonates with troubled souls with young folks and the trouble older people. Hey hey hey troubled older people! Now they go to the old folks home and check that out. Yeah, we got a roust of some oldies man these guys are trouble troubled old people. I'm talking to a terrorist on Twitter! I'm going to kill in place! And it resonates with troubled souls with young folks and with troubled older people. I've been meaning to kill someone

2:34:54 This this guy is insane How does he have that and he has it for another eight more years ten years by statutory but comedy? Joe Biden in his president and then we're good to go. We can run the show two twenty thirty It's the reason we have these investigations all across United States for troubled old people is why we have investigations all across the United States because of troubled old people. These investigations all across the United States that year of investment is producing a warped view of the world on the part of a lot of people who either want to travel to the caliphate or kill where they are... Kill where they are! And my job, along with a lot of our partners' is to find the travelers and stop them and most urgently to stop those who want to kill where they are. This kill-where-they-are thing this kill-where-they-are thing is creepy

2:35:41 Yeah, he's the one promoting it. Yes! I'd never heard this phrase before... Never heard the phrase before but okay we are reaching out to troubled souls on the Twitters and that were doing this obviously through direct messaging now This is when we get the troubled soul But then the whole idea is you use this very sophisticated One-on-one marketing on the tweeters What isn't somebody mentioned that probably 99% of the trouble or the terrorists online on the DM are all honeypot folks, you know just phonies. That's what his hundreds of investigations are they're all the honeypots setting these poor old people these troubled old people up now then of course now this is where it all breaks down because Comey is quite clear when its DM on Twitter Twitter is handing them everything they want not a problem twitter's doing

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Encryption in Motion, Silicon Valley Compliance

James Comey proposed a shift toward "encryption in motion" rather than end-to-end encryption to allow tech companies to comply with court orders. He argued that Silicon Valley should use its innovation to ensure that judges' warrants can be fulfilled, citing Gmail's business model as an example of readable data.

encryption· james comey· gmail· silicon valley· fourth amendment

2:36:29 And I hope Twitter's charging a lot because that should be their business model. This is the thing, by the way that does bother me... That you keep- I think the FBI and a lot of these guys constantly hope to get this stuff for free Oh yeah but then you can't do that No no it should be charged! And this is Twitter's business model You should only be working for the feds For troubled old people Who else is on twitter? Troubled old people Yeah And Kanye But then of course we move everyone over to the encrypted end-to-end systems. This is where the problems begin. So do you want the software manufacturers to allow some sort of key that will give you that kind of access once you get a quarter order? Now his answer is actually somewhat refreshing for once

2:37:18 For once it's somewhat refreshing. The answer is I don't know exactly, I can picture the end state we need We need judges orders to be complied with Now how to figure that out? Lots of people smart people tell me oh it's too hard I don't buy that. And, I don't think we've tried hard enough yet if we recognize that we all share the same values, I think smart people can figure out how to do it and it may not be the same for every company right? The goal of the government is clear We need to with the right showing to a judge be able to get access to the information in those targeted individual cases How a company does it may depend upon the companies business model Right there are companies out there now That encrypt their data in motion Ah! This is important

2:38:01 There's a difference between encrypting your data end to end and encrypting your data in motion, which is a term I had also not heard. I've never heard that either. What he means is he's looking specifically at Gmail as an example. read your email unless you send it encrypted, but it only encrypts the data in motion when its being transferred from Google out to you and vice versa. So they of course is their business model to read your email to give you advertising and what Comey is saying is we need everyone to comply with judges orders

2:38:40 And the only way to do that is to go to this encryption in motion idea where the companies themselves have data that is readable and can be requested by judge, by a fourth amendment, by a warrant to be handed over to the feds. And he's saying look I don't care how you do it whatever your business model is but you're going to do it. It may depend upon the company's business model right there are companies out there now that encrypt their data in motion and are able to comply with judges orders because they see the content of the communication cause its part of their business model We need to figure out how to achieve the end goal, but the government ought not be telling people this is the way you ought to do it because we don't know their business well enough or their technology. That's right! Hello Silicon Valley... You're about to get a little visit from Mr. Comey Then he answered a question which was- they got a lot of applause People really- I mean this group at this Aspen Institute What a bunch of jabroni douchebags Ugh

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July 4th Terror Plot, FBI Disruption Claims

The FBI claimed to have disrupted multiple terror plots planned for the July 4th holiday weekend, though Director Comey refused to provide specific details. The lack of transparency is contrasted with typical high-profile arrests, leading to skepticism about the "sheer volume" of threats cited to justify FBI funding.

july 4th· fbi· terror plot· james comey· isis

2:39:40 Oh, they're clapping. Oh you saved us! What now? I've been counting Jade Helm. Jade Helm is now at... we are jade helm plus 33 days since we're supposed to have been invaded by the United States military and whenever i talk about Jade Helm you tell me you're waiting for what The attacks on the 4th of July. You told us recently that you and your colleagues thwarted a July 4 attack or attacks, right? Correct What can you tell us about that Not much. Now why is it not much all of a sudden? Whenever these guys catch a terrorist, it's like, oh front page release the-the court documents we're all proud We set up the kangaroo court Right and then we got him, we nailed it, we're protecting you but no July 4th No I can't tell you too much brof

2:40:32 There were a number of and what's interesting about the ISIL model there too is The normal terms of inspired directed or enabled blend together with inspired directed or enabled they blend together write that down Inspired directed or enabled I know fire directed or enabled blend together with ISIL because they're just pushing They're like it a devil on somebody shoulder saying kill kill all day long Okay, so Twitter is now a devil clip that little kill kill kill thing on added to the other two or three Kill-kill-kill things we've got. That's a very good idea Remind me do that right after the show fire directed or enabled blend together with ISIL because they're just pushing They're like in a devil on somebody shoulder saying kill kill kill all day long all day I'll figure out whether someone was directed or inspired or enabled is actually a waste of time any cases and

2:41:20 There were a number of people who were bent on engaging in attacks in the United States, killing innocent people. Right. Time to the July 4th holiday and thanks to great work not just by the FBI but by our partners and state local and federal law enforcement it was disrupted. Disrupted and you say... Were these ISIS or ISIL related threats? Yes. And that's why you've concluded now that ISIS represents the major threat to the US homeland as far as terrorism is concerned. Hold on, stop! Stop! Stop! Now wouldn't a reporter...

2:42:02 point out exactly what you pointed out a second ago with Comey, got him right in front of you. You say well this is interesting but generally speaking when you bust the dumbest guys in the world or whoever they are for even thinking or looking cross-eyed and you've marched them out and you tell us the details of what happened like the New York thing and the bombing the subway guy... Every single time! The broadside bomber all that. And we know We need this in order to continue the funding for the FBI. We need to show our relevance." That would be, you could put that in there for icing on the cake. Yeah But you'd think he's saying something but he is just keeping it a big secret so your just saying that you caught somebody? You're saying this was going to happen on July 4th weekend? Ah! So why have concluded now ISIS represents the major threat to US homeland as far as terrorism is concerned Right and one of reasons I say that is sheer volume

2:42:53 Again, I have investigations. The FBI's investigations related to this threat all across the country and there are hundreds of investigations We're trying to understand where somebody is on the spectrum between a consumer of this poison on Twitter To an actor who was about to try and murder innocent people Wow a consumer of this poison or an actor who's about to kill innocent people. His words are fabulous! And evaluate where are they on that spectrum? We have hundreds of people... Where are you on the spectrum, John? Are you just a consumer over the poison or are you ready to act? I think that i am probably...I haven't seen the poison. Looking at on that spectrum, the ISIL tweeters in Syria have 20... What? The ISIL tweeters! Hold on a second. Ha ha ha! I hadn't even heard this. The ISIL tweeters really? People were looking out on that spectrum. The ISIL tweeters in Syria have 21 thousand English language followers. Whoa! And you can always follow me on Twitter. Oh man! Whoa! Twenty thousand followers?!

2:43:54 John, what do you have? 60-70 thousand. I have a hundred and two thousand You should be under investigation! You got more followers than the tweeters with English language ISIS follower things. Thousand English language followers Hundreds of those people probably thousands are in the United States so our job laughing For some community is figuring out So who are they? Who are they? Where are they along this line from consuming to asking? Go on Twitter and ask them who they are They're all registered They have domains They have IP addresses. You know who their vendor is that gives them the IP address? Talk to the terrorist! How hard is it?! Talk to the terrorist! And where are they along this line from consuming, to acting? Oh just look... and that's why this is our dominant threat we face today Can you monitor all those people? Of course not Our challenge is finding them all in a haystack Yeah if we can't monitor them all no No, well we need our friends Now I'm almost done here This is just too good

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Crypto Wars, James Comey's Patriotism Plea

James Comey expressed disdain for the term "crypto wars," arguing that the government and tech companies share the same values regarding public safety. He made a patriotic appeal to Silicon Valley engineers, suggesting that those who built companies in garages should be able to solve the technical challenge of providing law enforcement access to encrypted data.

crypto wars· james comey· silicon valley· encryption· privacy

2:44:51 Now Comey is going to show us how he's going to convince Silicon Valley to participate in this little scheme of in-motion encryption versus full blown end-to-end encryption. We actually share the same values, I mean I hate this framework people talk about the crypto wars Have you heard about the crypto wars? No, I haven't heard it when did that happen? Apparently its a thing, the crypto war... He hates it! It's such a thing he hates it I gotta tell you, I'm on the tweeters. I go to ad talk... I haven't heard it! I've never heard the crypto wars. I think he's making some of this up. You think? We actually share the same values and I hate this framework people are talking about the crypto... Hate! Strong words call me! Wars. Wars are fought between people who don't share the same values. I talked to these folks that lead these companies they all care about the same things i do They care about security in the internet They care about public safety So I'm hoping we can stop the war talks

2:45:44 and just say look you have a business to run. Stop the war talk! Where is this taking place? This is war talk stop the war talk hoping we can stop the war talk and just say look, you have a business to run but you love your country, you love your children... Why do you love your kids?! Hey hey You love your kids? You love your country? Yeah, you might as well stop that crypto war talk baby. But do you love your country? Send an FBI goer and say hey, do you like... Do you really love your little girl Jenny? I think she's the playground right now! Do you love her? Do you really do? It's good to know Oh Sally yeah no she's in preschool i think She's with Mrs Robinson And her head is gone Why do you dislike the phrase lone wolf terrorist

2:46:33 Oh, hold on. I'm sorry but i popped that one too early. I was...I'm still on the other one. Hold on. Convincing the valley We can stop the war talk and just say look you have a business to run but you love your country You love your children. You love public safety we share the same values help us figure out how to do this in a way that preserves innovation That protects privacy Maybe it's too hard But Silicon Valley, in fact the whole country's filled with a lot of people who stood in their garage and flip-flops 20 years ago when someone said it's just too hard. Thank goodness they didn't believe those people. So I think if well motivated innovative people and the FBI director should not be a source of innovation come together and say so how might we position our country so that judges orders can be complied with but

2:47:20 But privacy and strong encryption can remain a huge part of our lives. That I'm optimistic that we could do something. All right, why don't you pack that optimism and put it back in your underwear where they belong? Comey! A little memo to you, Comey... Memo. Encryption is not something you can stop. It's out there so even if you don't have end-to-end—and of course we're dealing with old people who are stupid Are you okay? Was that your dead man switch, you're okay then. Yeah, you're still good. Encryption will always be there! There is no... and he's admitting although I have some doubt but he's admitting they cannot decrypt strong encryption or not fast enough and No matter what you try Mr. Comey nothing will stop encryption genies out of the bottle is not gonna happen There is only one way

CHAPTER 50 / 51 Discussion

Lone Rat, FBI Media Branding

FBI Director James Comey criticized the term "lone wolf" for giving terrorists a sense of dignity, proposing the term "lone rat" instead. The hosts mock this branding attempt as a failed media strategy that ignores the individualistic nature of American culture.

lone wolf· lone rat· james comey· branding· terrorism

2:48:15 You can do this. And it's simple, we know how to do this We know how to get around encryption. Are you okay? Yeah! But I thought...it sounded like someone was knocking at the door and your falling down a foghorn is going off, I don't know what happened. Speaking that up that's good So if you..so let's just presume most of these terrorists and old folks lonely...what is it? Troubled old folks Lonely Spinsters Spinster on Twitters That all you need to do is get into their phone And we have a way to do this, it's well established. It's called waterboarding! Let's just go to that you don't need encryption. There is a long way... I'm not done. Here we go So not only does he hate the crypto wars which you've never heard of He also hates the term lone wolf. I didn't know that he hated the term lone wolf. I had no idea he hates the term lone wolf Why do you dislike the phrase lone wolf terrorist? and why is everybody laughing

2:49:18 Because I don't know you got me a holes is why do you dislike the phrase lone wolf terrorist? Put out slide up that was at Wiley coyote or something Got a big laugh applause sign is flashing. I guess because it to me the loan the notion of alone Wolfkin carries a sense of dignity that Is utterly inappropriate, and I either say lone offender a private focus group Well, it's dumb. But lone wolf is the term... And then a focus group and it turns out that people like the idea because Americans were individualistic. Lone Wolf is cool! Yeah we want to be the lone wolf So now all we got is change and we gotta come up with something new

2:50:05 Utterly inappropriate. I either say lone offender or privately, I say lone rat. Lone rat! The lone rat! Dude who is advising you? You need some media communication skills my friend. Lone Rat No! Lone Rat! No! That's the show title. I just don't think... Again Maybe I'm obsessing on detail, but I don't like giving that label to someone who is going to run up on unarmed Marines and murder them. Right? Or shoot people at a shopping mall or something. It's just they're seeking dignity and meaning in their lives in a misguided way And I do not want to be part of that. Yes! Lone rat! Lone Rat! Very good! We don't want to be part of that. Lone Rat.

CHAPTER 51 / 51 Discussion

Shaggy Dog Stories, Donald Trump's Rhetoric

The show concludes with an analysis of Donald Trump's rhetorical style, comparing it to a "shaggy dog story" where the speaker goes on a long, roundabout tangent before returning to a punchline. A montage of Trump's "China" and "Bing Bong" soundbites serves as the final media deconstruction.

donald trump· shaggy dog story· rhetoric· china· no agenda

2:50:51 Last one, this just shows you the level of moronity that is at these Aspen institution gatherings. Total morons! Listen to this moron with her question. Now seriously? This isn't the end of this whole thing And then she's asking this question, have you seen terrorists use cyber as a weapon? Where we've seen nothing but bull crap story after bull crap story about cyber breaches hacks etc. and this is your question lady? Have we seen them plan to use uh... cyber as a weapon to attack Yeah that's a great question That's not a great question! Yes he nails it He brings it home

2:51:52 That is not a great question. The dumbest question I've ever heard possibly This is your version of the shaggy dog, this is you because of Trump I sent a clip in last week and maybe I'll bring it back We never played it but Trump is the master of the Shaggy Dog story I think people ignore that. They don't notice it He's very good at it Well, let's do that on Thursday then Alright we'll rerun the thing It's Trump... he's just A Shaggy Dog story People should look it up It's where you just go roundabout roundabout You kind of change the subject and on-the-fly get back to the main point Change the subject Get back to the main point And you can do this as long as you can That's right Keep it going Then you come up with a punchline which is usually a pun

2:52:40 In a classic shaggy dog story exactly, but it's the type of delivery more than it is a model for anything. It is alrighty then Good you witnessed to shaggy dogs turn right there now you did I thank you very much John fun deconstructing everything Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your courage my friend and in the morning In the morning. Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state, in the morning everybody! Ow! My name's Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I have a new red book, I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction right here on No Agenda. I don't think Hillary liked it Jeb Bush or Hillary are one of these politicians all talk no action all controlled by lobbyists and donors

2:53:39 All controlled by lobbyists and donors, soners, soners. All controlled by lobbyists and donors and donors People like me from previous months Okay? Bong bong ping-ping bong bong bing bing bing bing bing bong bing bing bing bing bing bing bong bong bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bong bong bing bing bing bing

2:54:32 China, China, China from China. And I love China! Nothing wrong with China... I love the Mexican people they have tremendous spirit They're taking your job, taking your money and everything. And i'm gonna win that Hispanic vote! Sure! Bing bong, bing bong, bing bing bong, bing bing bing bing bing bing bong China, China, China from China You are going to love President Trump

2:55:25 Ping China, China, China from China. You are going to love President Trump. Bing bing bing bing bing bong bing bing bing bing bong bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing bing b They give us shows week after week. Donate to a no agenda, it's the show that is really unique! Donate to a No Agenda Listen to John and Adam speak. Donate to a No Agenda Science is turning into a clique. That's science

2:56:14 And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on. Among the many to criticize Trump for the comments is Republican candidate Carly Fiorina. Trump fired back at Fiorina, writing on Twitter that she gives him quote a massive headache and you can always follow me on Twitter I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no