Episode 728 · Sunday, 7 June 2015

It's the Mold!

A massive federal data breach triggers espionage fears while the TSA fails internal security audits and climate scientists attempt to erase the global warming hiatus.

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About this episode

The Office of Personnel Management faces intense scrutiny following a massive data breach that compromised the personal records of four million federal employees. While the White House remains silent on official attribution, media outlets have immediately pointed toward Chinese hackers, sparking theories that the stolen security clearance data will be leveraged for long-term blackmail and spy recruitment. This breach coincides with the indictment of former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, whose bank fraud charges related to hush money payments suggest a pattern of leveraging past misconduct for political ends.

National security theater remains a dominant theme as the TSA fails 95% of internal bomb-smuggling tests while the FBI continues to manufacture domestic terror plots using mentally ill informants. In the climate sector, a new NOAA report published in Science Magazine claims the global warming hiatus never occurred, though the methodology relies on controversial bias corrections and funding from the Department of Defense-linked LMI consultancy. Meanwhile, the European Union has launched the European External Action Service to counter Russian propaganda, and the UN Foundation is partnering with Thomson Reuters to train a global squadron of journalists to promote sustainable development goals.

Cultural shifts take center stage as the Muppet character Miss Piggy receives a feminism award from Gloria Steinem on MSNBC, and linguistic trends like the phrase yeah-no migrate from the show to Samsung Galaxy commercials. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Jeremy Cooper and Ken Gross during this Episode 728, while also debunking a Daily Mail hoax regarding an ISIS ban on pigeon breeding.


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CHAPTER 01 / 45 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 728 Introduction and Mold Spore Health Update

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 728 of the No Agenda show on June 7, 2015. Curry provides a health update regarding a mold spore issue in his home, describing his use of an ionizer, HEPA filter, and ozone machine to combat the problem. The hosts briefly mention the use of Sudafed for productivity before transitioning into the day's news analysis.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· episode 728· mold spores· hepa filter· sudafed

00:00 Yeah. No It would... No Yeah, no Yeah, no But! No-no Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Sunday June 7th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 728 This is NO AGENDA And for Northern Silicon Valley where I have nothing funny to say, I'm John Cena 4a Thanks for the effort. I was put it all out there It's appreciated man Welcome to the show swinging for the fences How you doing?

00:51 I'm doing good. How you doin'? How you doin'?" The mold thing is still there, but it's not as bad as... Oh yes the mold! It's not as bad as... Give us a mold update. Do they give ya what? During the news do they do a mold thing cause I... Yes oh yeah pollen count yes. Oh yeah. Pollen's not mold. No but they have the pollen count okay they have the allergy alert And they have the... see right now we have grass, which is low. But mold spores as I've learned very high. But I've... Oh you've been ingesting spores! I'm telling you man, that stuff gets in your nose and messes with your shit. You're like... Well it seems like two different parts of the body but go on. But i have the ionizer remember? I had that from the old place Yeah well don't you want a HEPA filter Yes! It has a HEPA filter UV filter it has an ionizer AND it does ozone What is the ozone supposed to accomplish? I dunno makes it smell fresh I always find ozone smells acrid yeah maybe

01:56 Little bit. It's not supposed to be good for your nasal membranes Okay, it's alright I'm good. I've been popping my Sudafed pills. I'm good to go. I'm very productive I'm ready John let's go. Let's have a good show. Oh yeah Sudafed is all over me. I'm good Good good So I don't really want to start with where we left off what would we start with on Thursday did we start with agenda 21? No Yeah, yeah, I think or was it Geller Geller. Yeah, Pamela Geller I already forgot about her. Oh good well then i'll bring her in right away You recall when we first analyzed this Garland Texas attempt to kill her because of the cartoon contest? Or bomb her We must bomb or any of those things and it was pretty obvious that we have two sides kind of playing together I don't think we talked at all about this on the last show

CHAPTER 02 / 45 Discussion

Pamela Geller, Garland Jihad Shooting, and CNN Media Narrative

The hosts analyze media appearances by activist Pamela Geller following the Garland, Texas cartoon contest shooting. They critique Geller's rhetoric regarding "Garland Jihad" and her claims that ISIS is targeting her for beheading. The discussion highlights Geller's interactions with CNN's Chris Cuomo and questions the validity of the intelligence she claims to have received from law enforcement agencies.

pamela geller· garland texas· cnn· chris cuomo· sharia law· islamic society of boston· jihad

03:00 Maybe it was the show before? I think it was a while ago. This is the woman who puts on these events Well she puts on the event, she's really the spokes-hole for this... what's the name of the outfit? We Hate Muslims Inc Yes that would be it! And of course, you can't get past the fact that she is just the biggest yenta in the world. So it really is a lot of Jew-Arab Israel Palestine crazy Islam... Stereotypes! Big stereotypes, big stereotypes but she seems now to be pushing a single message which I picked this up on actually two things I got from her and the main thing is they're here

03:48 You know, she's got new information in this little piece as well. She was- She got new information? Well she... I've got information man! New shit has come to light! Thanks for joining us, we're glad you're okay What was your reaction to finding out that these extremists allegedly wanted to behead you Now i'm gonna stop this from time to time So The thing that bothered me about this, because we did talk about this. The knife-wielding very dangerous jihadist who the cops in Boston had to kill because he had a knife... Never bring a knife to a gunfight son! Apparently he wanted to behead Pamela Geller but where did we hear this information? Where did she hear that he wanted to behead her?

04:34 Yes, we don't know do we? I have no idea. My reaction was it was chilling not surprising because this is what happens when you violate the blasphemy laws under the Sharia that you will be targeted and so i'm not surprised but one thing is clear ISIS here Islamic terrorism is here. We are here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon That was painfully obvious in the wake of the garland jihad shooting and a lot of positive developments came out of that shooting Oh really first she's coined a term here the Garland Jihad shooting Positive things new shit has come to life first then

05:18 that they drove 1,000 miles to Garland. Thank God they picked Garland and they didn't pick a softer target. Clearly my events which I've had security at for the past 10 years... You gotta stop it for second because i gotta ask you question now If they're there why do they have to drive 1000 miles? A thousand miles is not being their And imagine if it had been a softer target like I don't know Oh

06:10 Did you hear about this enormous amount of intel off the computers from those jihadists who were there? By Chinese hackers. And they update surveillance on high profile suspects, perhaps even Boston. I want to thank the Boston Police Department did a superb job. Now it gets better! So recall now... Is she in Texas?! She was in Texas. I don't think...I think she's from New York, but i don't think she lives in Texas. I know but where is she now? I do not know. She must be in Boston! She's thanking the Boston police for something. For killing the crazy knife-wielding jihadist who was going to take her head off. Oh that was the guy And they got a treasure trove of information off of Intel. Intel Off of the computer What did they tell you exactly when it came to how much you were a target

06:59 I had heard from CNN initially. Oh, hold on a second! CNN had told her that he wanted to cut her head off? Well that's nice and then what? And then upon their request multiple agencies we had a meeting but I'm clearly not at liberty to discuss why not why not yeah so CNN told her hey that guy wanted to take your head off And they knew that almost immediately. And then the agencies requested a meeting with her, which clearly she's not at liberty to speak about.

07:34 I'm calling bullshit. What when you? Are you afraid for your life of course there's an element of fear You know, I would be Silly to say that there isn't it's not fearful but to me it is It's scarier Jake to do nothing because complying with the Sharia leads two more demands for sharia compliance and And while it is very scary that an innocuous and clever cartoon would cause or warrant me to get my head chopped off. And her head is gone! This is the state of freedom of speech in this country, in 2015. I would be the object of attacks across-the-board not you specifically but instead of the jihadists being the focus of media Instead of the mosque

08:29 the same mosque as the Boston Sarnia. The marathon pharmacy. No, listen to this! This is interesting it sounds like Boston is a hotbed of... head off, head cutting off jihadists. Same mosque as Anwar al-Auqi and here we have one of the jihadists who was a security guard at the Islamic Society of Boston I don't understand why the focus is on my work in defense freedom but again this is why we're so far down the rabbit hole okay yes we are down the rabbit hole miss Galler I'm gonna play one more clip also from CNN she seemed to be all over CNN this weekend and I do you have a point to this this is now with

09:08 Is it Cuomo's kid who is on CNN? Is that Mario Cuomo's kid? I don't know. Some Cuomo guy on the CNN? No, no, I don't watch CNN Yeah, I do...I take one for the team but I watch CNN and here is Cuomo on CNN with Pamela Gellar and she has more of this messaging Have you thought that maybe I went too far This wasn't worth it! I'm going to change how I do what I do now Drawing a cartoon, an innocuous cartoon warrants chopping my head off? That's too far. I just don't understand this

09:45 They're gonna come for you too, Chris. They're coming for everybody and the media should be standing with me particularly in light of Foley You can show the cartoon This is so good I love it how she's telling the media continuously they are coming for you now it's Chris Cuomo They are going to come for his head Yeah It is Mario's son People have equal right to criticize your showing a cartoon as an overt provocation Of religion an overt provocation. First of all, we see Jesus blasphemed mercilessly on South Park We see the cross immersed in a jar of urine. We see Mother Mary you know immersed in dung Nobody says anything about that That's not true

10:26 What was the Mother Mary and Dung thing? Yes, there was a dung. It was called Dung Mary or something I missed that exhibit Those things get criticized Nobody gets killed Embassies don't get burned The question that... Embassies don't get burned Oh! Did she not get the memo that it wasn't because of the cartoon Or because of a stupid movie on YouTube No, the embassies get burned for it now. This is really interesting. You watch this crap! I think it's, but this it well a lot of people not a lot but people watch this over and over and over again But CNN always has the messaging And they're always pushing it out there and this woman is a part of it She really is There's no doubt about that As I was thinking about this

CHAPTER 03 / 45 Discussion

Terrorism Fear vs. Statistical Reality and TSA Ineffectiveness

A discussion ensues regarding the psychological impact of terrorism fear-mongering compared to actual statistical risks like traffic accidents or cancer. The hosts reference recent reports that TSA "red teams" successfully smuggled 95% of test bombs past security checkpoints. They argue that the constant state of fear is illogical given the low probability of dying in a terrorist attack.

tsa· terrorism· risk assessment· red team testing· traffic accidents· fear mongering

11:24 Sometimes I even have to step back for a second. Could we talk about the jihadists and ISIS is here, and ISIS is really gonna kill you? And your next thing could take your head off all this fear over terrorism. We have TSA now becoming uber douches after this...I've got multiple emails from people saying it was horrible these past few days going through TSA checkpoints Because, you know, whoa they let so many red team members through. 95% of all bombs were not caught." So there's really...there is no terrorism to be afraid of for aircraft but we are being pumped full with fear and I'm thinking, you know, is it possible that I will die from a terrorist attack? Yeah! It could absolutely happen. And- You could also win the Texas lottery Or No, I would say more likely I'll be hit by a truck

12:21 Lightning. No, but truck is much more likely or I'll just walk... an Uber driver will go berserk and drive me off the road. I could die of lung cancer. Citing Thelma & Louise. Yes! Cancer could just suck the lifeblood out of me. And what I worry about most John is that I will die one day no matter how I die regretting spending time on this stupid shit these people are making us afraid of We should just do away with it all, who cares? Okay so a couple hundred people die a year of terrorism. Oh well we'll stop some, we won't stop others but the fear that's being pumped into us is so illogical! So illogical what 400 000 people a year die from traffic accidents? No 40

13:06 40,000? Yeah. 400,000 from something like cancer? I don't know probably heart disease i'm sure so you know...I guess the message for me today is just stop worrying about it you're gonna die this is the mold it's in you! The spores have got me man okay all right then I just wanted to say that. Well, there's a counter-argument to it and i think Rick Perry in half the clip says it best Oh my goodness Yes! The beaches are back open! Wooo! Yeah You got me again This is like your rig roll I did watch uh... Perry as he announced It was so sad because you know never let him see you sweat bro this is not the way to do it That was poorly thought out

CHAPTER 04 / 45 Discussion

Rick Perry Campaign Launch and Jeb Bush on Patriot Act

The hosts critique Rick Perry's presidential campaign announcement, focusing on his visible sweating during the event. They also review a clip of Jeb Bush defending the Patriot Act and the NSA's metadata program. Bush's assertion that the government's first duty is to "protect the homeland" is challenged by the hosts, who argue the primary duty is to uphold the Constitution.

rick perry· jeb bush· patriot act· metadata· civil liberties· 2016 election

14:07 Because that's all people talk about. Oh, he's sweating. Oh boy look at him he's sweating. He's a loser this guy! Perfect for Texas. He did a good job down there but he's not a national type. I saw Jeb Bush on maybe it was last week I really dislike Jeb Bush. Yeah, me too and it's for this very reason as Schieffer on his last show asked him about the Patriot Act which was about to run out last Sunday. This is the clip that he played in the last show! I don't know if you played this one? About the Patriot Act?! Yeah we gotta sign it over and we gotta... As-is! Okay yeah, sorry

14:48 Yes, I agree. You know there should be a honking of horn on this one? It's worth replaying that. We asked him if he believes the nation security will be in danger if the program is allowed to expire. I do! And it's not a violation of civil liberties. There's no evidence, not a shred of evidence that the metadata program has violated anybody's civil liberties The first duty of our national government is to protect the homeland Oh yeah, that was it I do remember that clip. It's the spores! Yeah, it's the spores No, that's not the first duty The first duties to protect and uphold the Constitution Yes And you did that bit again? It's the spores yeah the spores I want to thank student 33- I went to the PO box Thanks student 33 for sending me the gigantic ready for Hillary poster Ooh Hashtag ready

CHAPTER 05 / 45 Discussion

OPM Data Breach and Media Blame on Chinese Hackers

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) data breach is analyzed, with the hosts noting the media's immediate attribution of the attack to China despite a lack of official White House confirmation. They discuss the potential for the stolen personal information and security clearance data to be used for future spear-phishing or blackmail. The segment critiques the government's failure to update server software.

opm· china· cyber attack· security clearance· spear phishing· nsa

15:38 Was it rolled up? It's like an artwork now. Yeah, yeah I'm keeping it. It's an investment! You know it is...it is Well, I got a couple of interesting little items here. We had of course the big deal this was the China hack. Although they've never really blamed China but the media does for some reason and how would they know it's not...I'm surprised it's as though they say well let's blame North Korea for this and then let's blame Russia for that and less blame China. Do we get any official confirmation that it was China or is just the media saying its China? It's just the media. In fact, if you listen to most of these guys doing their analysis they say well the White House hasn't confirmed this hasn't been confirmed or confirmed... They keep saying that but then they blame China over and over and let's play a cover... And these guys are nuts about this! Everybody on The Talk shows everybody on The Talking Head shows they're all going crazy here's the... Let's play there China hack rundown one

16:37 It only took one government agency that had not taken the simple step of updating its server software to open the door to an unprecedented and alarming cyber attack believed to be by the government of China. Are they still running a internet information server or something? What are they, Windows 7? And where is NSA on all this? Well, they've been hampered because you know we didn't pass The Patriot Act. This happened last December! Oh wow, okay. To China. Though the White House still is not publicly naming the culprit it is acknowledging the growing threat We have seen our adversaries use innovative techniques and to learn from their previous efforts to try to find vulnerabilities in our system and to exploit them This attack appears designed to lay the groundwork for future attacks

17:25 using the stolen personal information to fool government employees in so-called spear phishing attacks. Now it's not really called spear fishing, is it just fishing? I think spear fishing is a specific variant And to impersonate them and carry out insider attacks And crucially by revealing who has security clearances and at what level. That's the sound effect of cyber dude! I think that sound effect is trying some sort of mind control. Yes it means look out hackers, Chinese hackers. Security clearances and at what level they may now be able to identify expose even blackmail US officials around the world

18:09 Targeting the personal information of federal employees is new. Chinese hackers had previously focused on stealing military and government secrets to enhance national security, and corporate data for financial gain. I don't think that's stopped but this is just a new attack vector which has typically... Stop stop stop! A new attack vector? Is it on the skip logic board a new attack vector which is typically being used by organized crime? for monetizing The Chinese Oh, okay. Okay well so that is the beginning one of the earlier reports and it went on and on and then you went to all the talking head shows and so they're going And saying oh and they're trying to dream stuff up to make it more exciting than they can because they don't know anything And so finally got the PBS News Hour weekend where they came out with a new thesis this is the uh PBS Weekend Report of Hack

CHAPTER 06 / 45 Discussion

Strategic Implications of OPM Hack and Spy Recruitment Theories

The hosts mock a PBS NewsHour theory suggesting that the OPM hack was a strategic move by China to recruit spies among four million federal employees. They perform a satirical skit about the absurdity of cold-calling government workers for espionage. The discussion pivots to the idea that such data is more likely used for long-term blackmail, referencing the Dennis Hastert case as an example of how past misconduct is leveraged.

opm· spy recruitment· pbs newshour· blackmail· dennis hastert· espionage

19:10 4 million current and former federal employees stealing data from the Office of Personal Management's computer network. According to The Washington Post, experts suspect the hackers are collecting massive amounts of personal information. Their goal? To find and potentially recruit spies inside the U.S. government. The Post quotes government officials who call the theft part of a strategic plan This is the third major cyber attack on a federal database in the past year. The White House is calling on Congress to quote, come out of the dark ages and pass cybersecurity legislation. Critics say the Obama administration hasn't done enough to secure federal databases. Recruit spies? Yeah. Now how... Let's try and figure out how that's going to work. You have 4 million employees that suppose- Can I be can I be an employee? Can I be a government employee? Sure! Okay

20:05 Yeah, the phone's got a ring. Oh yes Am I answering the phone am i the employee you already employed? Hello is government office No this guy obviously since it's all the personal information. I'm obviously calling I could be go cat up because calling me I'm answering your calling I thought going at home You wouldn't be okay, but honestly I can be at home. I can be at home one second oh Okay. All right, here we go. Hello government guide home? Hey dude. Yeah what's up? I know you're- What's up! I am from China and i want to ask you a question uh this is just a survey i'm giving the survey that's it okay survey okay if you had the question number one if you had the chance to be a spy oh

21:01 For China. Would you take it? Do I get cool gear? Yes, okay yeah i'm in You'd take it okay now would you do it for $150 000 a year Does that come with hookers yes i'm in Would you do it for $60,000 a year? Uh does it come with hookers? Yeah! I'm in. Would you do it for twenty thousand dollars a year? I'll do-I mean... I'm just in. Ah best price. I'm glad you had a punchline good best price this price yeah this is stupid

21:50 It's idiotic. So stupid and if anyone with a brain just listens to this and thinks like we just did, you can see it's stupid! Stupid... The only thing that I'm- You know this uh was it Hastert? Hastert is that the guy? Hastert. Hastert. I have a feeling you know there's a lot of- Of course we know that a lot of this espionage Is for blackmail purposes Yes That's what the NSA is all about Right And the FBI traditionally has been a blackmailing operation Thank you So, Hastert who was former Speaker of the House and...excuse me. I think that's a message to everybody else because this guy is unimportant in the grand scheme of things right now but to me it seems like hey you know? You're getting hookers or you're doing something we know all about you can get you whenever we want to. That's what it has to be! And it comes out…I got an offbeat clip I picked up off ABC. This is Hastert

CHAPTER 07 / 45 Discussion

Dennis Hastert Indictment and Media Timing

The hosts examine the indictment of former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert on bank fraud charges related to "hush money" payments. They highlight an ABC News report claiming the media knew about allegations of sexual misconduct nine years ago but did not act. They suggest the timing of the current charges is politically motivated by the White House.

dennis hastert· abc news· bank fraud· sexual misconduct· statute of limitations

22:50 and the media. Now I want to listen carefully to what they're saying here because it's an indictment of the media. Jolene says she decided to come in hopes others who say they are victims of hazard will know they are not alone, George. And Brian she's been trying to get this story out for a long time right? She contacted us other members of news media about nine years ago off the record But she said as you watched Hastert rise to prominence, the Speaker of the House just made her angrier and angrier. And now she finally decided to go public with the allegations. So Hastert's not being charged actually for this misconduct he is being charged for these bank frauds? Yeah

23:26 Yeah, nine years ago. Nine years ago they knew about this guy! But this also broke on ABC News and ABC News is doing things that I find completely out of order when it comes to journalistic integrity by just some woman who's saying oh this happened... That's it! You know then the- Well ABC has got this marching orders from the White House. Exactly exactly exactly So the Chinese hack is a dead end? Meanwhile, I watched Bill Maher. Oh no! As much as I don't like watching Bill Maher... You always tell me not to watch him. ...I don't like watching him either

CHAPTER 08 / 45 Discussion

Bill Maher and the Definition of Bigotry

The hosts discuss Bill Maher's recent commentary, using it as a springboard to define "bigotry" as intolerance toward those with different opinions. They argue that Maher himself exhibits bigotry despite his status as a comedian. The segment focuses on the linguistic shift in how the term is used in modern political discourse.

bill maher· bigotry· intolerance· definition· political correctness

24:10 So, you know this particular version of his normal bigotry posing as humor was just over the top. And let's play the bigotry clip and tell me if this is not what he is exhibiting his anti-transgender Bruce Jenner Kate Christine whatever Caitlin a question would you mind just for our international audience? Explain bigotry. Oh, yeah well actually let's go further than that Let's let's open up our browsers and actually read the definition I

24:51 I don't think a lot of people understand the subtle differences between racism, hate speech, bigotry. Bigotry intolerance to those who hold different opinions from oneself Intolerance. And that's really the key. Intolerance, right intolerance and it takes all kinds of forms I mean racism is a form of bigotry but it's not... Bigotry does not mean racism No bigotry is... Racist means you're bigoted probably Just liking people because they have a different opinion Right is that close? That would be that would be well not disliking but but intolerance intolerant of people okay in other words you whatever I don't care and Mars a classic bigot he'd area if your Republican No tolerance for any of that, but he's also comedian so it gets to do that. That's what comedians are they have that license money By the way now this is something interesting I'm just said by the way I know that was good or bad

CHAPTER 09 / 45 Discussion

Vasectomy Theory and Physical Appearance Changes

A host presents a personal theory that men who undergo vasectomies undergo visible physical changes, such as facial puffiness and skin pallor, which he compares to an "old lesbian" look. He cites a book from the 1920s as the origin of this observation. The theory is applied to Bill Maher and Louis Black, suggesting their lack of children and specific physical traits are evidence of the procedure.

vasectomy· bill maher· louis black· physical traits· hormone changes· anecdote

25:51 It wasn't good. I'm looking at him because he had Louis Black on the comic who they talk about their both being lifelong bachelors. Because they're assholes? Well, no wonder! I get a kick out of Black. Yeah, Black's okay. He has Tourette's Terrible. I looked at the two of them and realized, and I don't know for sure but based on my thesis about vasectomies... Let me stop! This has come up mainly, I think in after-show conversations. I don't know why we talk about anything but the show because we're either done or we don't want to ruin anything for the next show... Hold on let me run down the important John C. DeVore act life hacks one never eat seafood before traveling

26:52 Never marry an actress or an artist. Or a musician if you're old. There are also female musicians, you don't want to marry those. That's definitely on the higher list. And never ever get a vasectomy because you will turn into an old woman! Well...a lesbian looking person. Okay, an old lesbian looking person Here is where I got this I had a book that...I collect books. And there's this book from the 20s... You're an archivist.

27:29 I wish they wouldn't just pile up on the floor. That's another story will kill you one day now There was this book on I think it was called stay youthful or youth something-or-other and this was done in the late 20s when I think the vasectomy first became popularized and it became popularized for one reason only Not not for population control, but to make you look younger because after you got a vasectomy You would have care traits Physical traits, if you're a male obviously and the female is not going to get a vasectomy. Your traits would change. You would get kind of a puffy face, your skin would look different. To me it always looks like its more pale than it normally would be

28:16 And they showed a lot of before and after pictures. And that's where I first got this notion that, oh! I can spot somebody who has had a vasectomy pretty...I'm really accurate at it. There have been a few guys who've told me they've gotten vasectomies and I see no evidence in their appearance but I see evidence in a lot of people and you can look at them and they have this kind It's not like they get totally feminized, but they start to look like, to me old lesbians. And I realized and it's a certain look and you have to really practice this to get it down but I'm 90% accurate when I say somebody has had a vasectomy mainly because I did this...I had this whole book on it with the examples. You know your kids must be very proud of this talent that you have? They know about it and they roll their eyes!

29:05 Oh brother, who cares? Anyway... Marr for sure has had a vasectomy. And if you think about it all he does is bitch about kids and population! There ya go He's one of those guys who got the vasectomy probably early Yeah Fool, fool Talked into it because oh you know population grows we're all gonna die Uh huh Well I'm gonna do my part and have a vasectomy Save the earth Save the Earth. Never get laid again? Obviously too Oh really?! Yeah I think so, I didn't think about it until he was sitting next to me It just came to me, I'm watching these two guys go back and forth And then Mar goes on his bigoted thing about transgenders Can we play it now? Yes let's play Good setup That's so wrong because I feel like with this Caitlyn Jenner thing which

29:52 You know again, we're all like struggling a little bit to understand it completely We're for it. Whatever makes a man happy but I mean I mean a woman happy But that's the thing he says he wants to date women but He has a penis But he's dressed like Betty Grable on the cover of the... Yeah. Is he a lesbian? I, I, boy... You ask gay! Gay seems so simple now. Well gay is easy. Gay is the new straight! It's not even hip anymore. They just want to get married what when Caitlin's doing that tits and dick and Social Security, that's You

CHAPTER 10 / 45 Discussion

Caitlyn Jenner Media Coverage and Pronoun Discourse

The hosts discuss the cultural impact of Caitlyn Jenner's transition and the media's insistence on specific pronoun usage. They debate the retrospective application of pronouns to Jenner's Olympic achievements and critique Bill Maher's suggestion that Jenner should speak at the Republican National Convention. The segment frames the discourse as an example of "cultural Marxism."

caitlyn jenner· transgender· pronouns· cultural marxism· republican party· olympics

29:05 Oh brother, who cares? Anyway... Marr for sure has had a vasectomy. And if you think about it all he does is bitch about kids and population! There ya go He's one of those guys who got the vasectomy probably early Yeah Fool, fool Talked into it because oh you know population grows we're all gonna die Uh huh Well I'm gonna do my part and have a vasectomy Save the earth Save the Earth. Never get laid again? Obviously too Oh really?! Yeah I think so, I didn't think about it until he was sitting next to me It just came to me, I'm watching these two guys go back and forth And then Mar goes on his bigoted thing about transgenders Can we play it now? Yes let's play Good setup That's so wrong because I feel like with this Caitlyn Jenner thing which

29:52 You know again, we're all like struggling a little bit to understand it completely We're for it. Whatever makes a man happy but I mean I mean a woman happy But that's the thing he says he wants to date women but He has a penis But he's dressed like Betty Grable on the cover of the... Yeah. Is he a lesbian? I, I, boy... You ask gay! Gay seems so simple now. Well gay is easy. Gay is the new straight! It's not even hip anymore. They just want to get married what when Caitlin's doing that tits and dick and Social Security, that's You

30:41 No, I was getting about Caitlyn Jenner. Yeah, you're a Northeast Republican which right? You know those are the same ones There's been an awful lot of pushback against Caitlyn Jenner this week from Mike Huckabee and Rush Limbaugh the usual suspects What do you think now he's a Republican Caitlyn Jenner is Yes She's a Republican Republican Party should welcome her to the fold. Really? Yes, absolutely! Yeah you know and so we're still arguing about the pronouns which is just another big part of the cultural Marxism that we identified on the last show here's my question I have a question for you sure with being politically correct and now saying she do we also use she in the past tense as in she won all those Olympic medals

31:41 That's a good question. And that's an excellent question! Thank you, and does that mean she was indeed the first woman to win that amount of Olympic medals? Well, couple of things here... One, uh, The medal should be taken away if that is true. Stripped! You cheated! You cheated! I don't know. I don't care, but... But this is you-I guarantee you this will be the conversation moving forward. Oh! Wait a minute. I'm so sick of it now What I find even more offensive than their regular bigotry that he exhibits Was they jump they jumped the chasm with it? There's a black woman not at classic stereotypical You cross the chasm where you jumped the shark

32:31 It jumped the chasm. Okay, because it seems that this was the kind of crap that you hear on this show that really is irksome play bigot two. Hold on a second. Yeah got it sorry okay yeah she's a Republican. Republican parties should welcome her to The Fold Really? Yes absolutely at the convention Those Republicans that you quoted, they are not the ones running for office. I mean, I would love to see- Well some of them are. The RNC is going to be held in Cleveland and they need to allow Caitlyn Jenner there to speak right there in good old Cleveland Ohio but you know what? We'll take her! I want her to become a Democrat. Caitlyn call a sister if you want to run for office.

33:25 Oh, a freak show. We're in the freak show. The world is now in the freak show. Now the gall to say oh well if she's Republican why don't they have her speak at the convention? How does this even make sense In other words, this is the bigotry of it. It's oh if that's true then she should be speaking at the convention! How does that make any sense? I can't speak at the convention! Oh its just to rile everybody up and make sure we all know the Republican Party hates anything out of the ordinary

34:03 Right, when apparently Mar is the one who hates anything out of the ordinary. Yes Now just a one and more Mar clip which has nothing to do with Caitlyn Jenner it's just this has to do with a bogus From now on I want you to address me as she. I want all pronouns to be female for me on this show otherwise you are a bigot. Now there's a clip I ever have trouble well i never call you he...I'm gonna call ya It Thank you. So this is second, this is the Mar on ISIS and this story was in The Daily Mail it is a obvious bullcrap story It's obviously bull crap because there's no way unless we who are running ISIS Yes who created ISIS A challenging community put this out there as a joke

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ISIS Pigeon Ban Hoax and Execution Tactics

The hosts debunk a Daily Mail story claiming ISIS banned pigeon breeding because seeing bird genitals is offensive to Islam. They discuss the performative nature of ISIS propaganda, including the throwing of individuals off buildings. They argue that these stories are often hoaxes or exaggerated for Western media consumption.

isis· daily mail· pigeon breeding· propaganda· executions· social media

34:55 It's a ridiculous thing and he is all in on it. Like, it's like a hoax that he just hook line and sinker. thought it was just, the guy is clueless. He must be clueless about everything. Do you know that ISIS this week banned pigeon flying? I'm not joking did you see this? I saw this! Pigeons... How good is their eyesight by the way? Because they're... ISIS bans pigeon breeding punishable by public flothing because seeing birds genitals overhead offends Islam. Wow. I've seen lots of pigeons flying, and never noticed their balls once. Well but you know ISIS...I don't know if you saw the other news about ISIS? A couple things one finally they've listened to my advice they're throwing gay guys off buildings again

35:51 Which it's not exactly... We've been doing that continually, we just haven't been picking it up. Right well It wasn't actually my advice this is why I'm disturbed. Your advice! AdamEdCurry.com My advice was- That's adamedcurry.com People clearly don't care about people being killed they care about artifacts being destroyed Oh think of the humanity and the arts And if you kill some gay guy They're gonna go look at this art Yeah, you're bright. They have continuously said if you want attention You got to kill some gay guys But they make the mistake of throwing them off buildings this is this is dumb though so that there's what?

36:30 Well, I mean what's wrong with that? If you're gonna kill him. No but they would... That gets no attention throwing them off buildings! I would think it would?! No, you gotta like cut their nuts off and stick it in their mouth like the Mexicans. Two camera shots. Three cameras he'd be better You got the guy on top of the building with a camera one Camera two is outside long shots showing the guy falling off the building Super slo-mo! Super slow mo! Camera three would be on them showing the pavement Yep yep splat Splat. Splats, splat shot. Perfect splat but then we also got the news that ISIS tweets helped the United States to bomb a command center oh yeah I almost had a clip of this oh i have no i wish i had a clip well the clip is dumb i mean the whole thing is stupid and the best clip was on Lou Dobbs and I should probably

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ISIS Selfie Bombing and Social Media Intelligence

A report that the U.S. Air Force bombed an ISIS command center after a member posted a selfie is analyzed. The hosts express skepticism, noting that the location of ISIS headquarters was already public knowledge. They question why the government would want to remove ISIS from social media if it provides such valuable targeting intelligence, suggesting many accounts are "honeypots."

isis· air force· selfie· intelligence· social media· honeypot

37:23 I'm trying to think about it. I could clip it quickly, but I can't. Lou Dobbs and he talked about the moron who did a selfie in front of ISIS headquarters. Yes exactly! The problem with this is that we had a note from somebody who lived in the area and I guess It was a known fact where ISIS headquarters was. It's not like it is secret, it is in Syria and one of the towns and they had this street address we had that this was like a year ago Somebody had told us about this anomaly, which is everyone knows where ISIS headquarters is. So now they bomb it finally and then they blame it on the selfie I think this whole story's bullcrap! Yes of course it is but even logically why are we trying if we can now just thinking from there from this

38:17 story's point of view. This is from the Times, I think if it is possible to target command centers and wow we really need to do that then why would we try to kick ISIS off social media? Why would be removing accounts? No! You want more! That's a question we've been asking for years! You want more of this?! You got NSA out there they know everything although they don't seem to know a lot Well they know everything about you know your personal sex life I don't know. These are all honeypots, it's all bullcrap none of these guys are really ISIS guys who knows? Sure there is a couple that come on and they track them carefully but these accounts...I've looked at these accounts most of course you have to cut and paste in an error translator but they're idiotic!

39:08 Yeah. They're idiotic, the comments they make are stupid... What they have to say is dumb... Taking a selfie in front of HQ- I mean the problem- The problem? What's the point? Well the problem is again it's just people being mind controlled into this It really is stupidity To believe in any of this But it works, it works Meanwhile we have a real war going on here on The Homefront John The War is On! Yeah baby he's back War on chicken is better than it's ever been before. Rise and shine to higher egg prices? It's all thanks to cases of bird flu that have paralyzed chicken farms across the country

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Bird Flu Outbreak and Rising Egg Prices

The hosts discuss the impact of the avian influenza outbreak on the American poultry industry. They report that egg prices have spiked significantly, particularly in the Midwest states of Iowa, Indiana, and Ohio. The discussion covers how these increases will affect processed foods like mayonnaise and baked goods.

bird flu· egg prices· usda· iowa· agriculture· inflation

39:56 Once farmers detect bird flu... Was that on the clip? Yes! Flock, flock, flock, flock. Try the flock. And that means higher prices will stick around until chicken farms are able to repopulate with healthy birds. Doesn't it take like two days to jam some chickens out? The latest data from the Department of Agriculture shows egg prices are up anywhere from 33 cents to 57 and a half cents since last week in May And it all depends on where you live. The bird flu has hit the Midwest the worst. Iowa, Indiana and Ohio are the top three egg producing states in the country but since those eggs are shipped everywhere else, the price spike is happening nationwide. Experts say watch out for those processed foods made with eggs

40:42 And that means you can expect to pay more for things like baked goods, ice cream and mayonnaise. Mmmmm... Alright. So... Okay quiz for you! How long before you get a chick? How many years months days before they can lay an egg and get the work I told you three days and they're pooping on eggs. No no no okay seriously it's not three days Six weeks Six months six months really that long hmmm okay Well, this really leads me... I'm sorry. Take it back. Those are the heritage chickens? Yeah free-range running around happy. Normal chickens and they produce delicious eggs! Yeah not the ones in the factory well this brings me to something else and something that our post show conversations sometimes or write something down um i have had the pleasure in the past six or seven months of going to dinner with many different people many women

CHAPTER 14 / 45 Discussion

Women and Food Texture Issues

A host shares observations from dining with various women who express strong aversions to specific food textures, such as eggs in potato salad or the feel of bananas and papayas. He contrasts this with men, who he claims rarely have such issues. The hosts ask the audience for feedback to help understand the psychological root of "texture issues."

food texture· sensory issues· psychology· dining· anecdote

41:39 And I have noticed that women in particular have food issues. And so egg is one of them, someone said to me, I hate eggs so much that I just start to gag when I see those egg chunks in potato salad." I know exactly... Well, potato salad doesn't necessarily have to have eggs and mine doesn't. Well, of course not! But when you think, but this is I don't think men have this. Women have issues with textures of things so it's not so much the taste or the smell Or it's the texture and I don't really understand this You know like oh bananas

42:24 The texture of bananas makes me feel ill. Or I love mango but papaya... texture! What is going on with that? Has someone actually said that to you, that they like mango and not papaya? Yes yes almost damn near the exact same texture Well no Tomatoes, grapes... all these- Grapes? Yes. Who doesn't like grapes?! Well I'm not gonna tell you who but it's... What is- She's listening now she knows who she is! They all know who she is Oh there's a group of them Yeah yes I told you I've had the pleasure dining with many women and they're all in the same clique No they're not They are not in the same country or the same state That's not the point

43:08 Come on, you've never noticed this? You John C stands for Casanova Dvorak have never noticed women's texture issue. I've noticed it to a small degree but i've noticed that they also have other kinds of food issues including the... oh don't let the...I mean this is mostly with kids though But this is just weird! This is not men Men don't have this People who don't like the food The touch is a good example The touch See now your Mr Adam C Casanova Yeah, there's plenty of people women mostly uh-huh and kids in particular that don't like their food to touch. Oh No the carrots are touching They can't touch you the contaminates each other yeah Wow where does this come from? That makes no sense never made sense to me because they're touching when they're in your stomach oh

44:00 I know it doesn't make sense, but okay just back to my original premise and i'm not necessarily looking for an answer from you. Yeah, I am intrigued by this what is it with food textures? And can we help these women? Can we reprogram them?" Well, there's a lot of jokes that you can lead right into if you wanted to. I'm not looking for a joke! There are lots of jokes I could think off... I am just looking for some help on this. It's baffling to me. What difference does it make to you? Isn't this the... Seriously, what difference is it making to you? Why do you care if some woman likes mango and not papaya?!

44:40 Because of the texture. I just want to know what it is with texture that ruins things for- My daughter has this too, she has texture issues Oh i don't like the texture of it. Huh? And she's actually said that verbally All these examples are all verbal These are all verbal I DON'T LIKE THIS TEXTURE Yes! No not like that but oh no I don't like the texture of it It's specifically the word texture Do you follow up? Do you follow-up with the question, what specifically about the texture do you only want? Of course. Okay and what kind of answers have you received? No answer just I don't like the texture. I don't like how it feels...the texture Did you would you go on to say well if it was pureed would that make a difference? No I haven't done that

45:32 That's okay. I'm sure i will get a lot of feedback for this question, which is kind of my point. I just want to get some feedback. I want to understand it. Send email to adammccurry.com if you have an answer Yeah would like to understand that. It's not that strange Well seems pretty strange to me Okay onward... I have written down here two things Dot science and JCD favor that's we're gonna do tech news at Sunday is that for dot science yeah, okay? Well hold on well. I didn't I didn't realize it was tech news Well it doesn't have to be tech news Screwed let's do tech news It'll be worth it what they have a wait wait you have any other tech news who died only wanted one item I don't know questionable My phone

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Dot-Science TLD and Global Spam Repository

The hosts identify the ".science" top-level domain (TLD) as a primary source of internet spam. They describe finding thousands of junk emails in their inboxes originating from this TLD, covering topics from "sharp minds" to "copperware." They recommend that listeners block the entire TLD to significantly reduce spam volume.

.science· tld· spam· domain names· email filtering

46:25 All right, tech news. One item today John C. Dvorak. I've come to the conclusion that dot science which is a TLD top level domain and it is the number one repository and arena for spam Dot science. Yeah, if you go look up do a search and people should do this or they can search their inboxes for So is it dot size the science the whole word or dot SCS dot? Science yeah who gets that work who would want to dot science address I don't I don't want one But you do a dot science search on your inbox anybody out there And you're going to discover every message and it could be into that could be into the thousands of

47:11 All spam let me see we're gonna do this right now nobody uses it for email wake up your brain Here's the simple secret to a sharp mind Yeah, that's a dot science original copperware knee halt memory loss track our bra I hate that one the track are bra did you lose your lose your stuff? I get that one a lot Yeah, it's from dot science. Dot science you create healthy living This is very good so this is a spam domain yes I'm just gonna block the whole thing just blocked on science well That's the joke you can't necessarily block at TLD You can block a domain like a TLD. I can lock it. I can lock it okay Well if you can block it yeah, I would recommend anybody out there who can block dot-science to block it and

48:01 and you'll never get used. Your spam numbers will go way down. Well, you know what the C stands for. Dvorak! Oh it's Casanova but I didn't want to use it again. In the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everyone in the chat room noagendastream.com good to see human resources there are all present and thank you to our artists Martin JJ again crushing it with artwork for episode 727

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Executive Producer Donations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct a donation segment, thanking "Executive Producers" for their financial support under the value-for-value model. Notable donors include Sir Mark Workman, Brad Doherty, and Hank. The segment includes the granting of titles such as "Baron of Galt's Gulch" and "Baron of the Jersey Shore," along with the playing of custom jingles for the contributors.

donations· knighthood· barony· peerage· value-for-value· executive producers

47:11 All spam let me see we're gonna do this right now nobody uses it for email wake up your brain Here's the simple secret to a sharp mind Yeah, that's a dot science original copperware knee halt memory loss track our bra I hate that one the track are bra did you lose your lose your stuff? I get that one a lot Yeah, it's from dot science. Dot science you create healthy living This is very good so this is a spam domain yes I'm just gonna block the whole thing just blocked on science well That's the joke you can't necessarily block at TLD You can block a domain like a TLD. I can lock it. I can lock it okay Well if you can block it yeah, I would recommend anybody out there who can block dot-science to block it and

48:01 and you'll never get used. Your spam numbers will go way down. Well, you know what the C stands for. Dvorak! Oh it's Casanova but I didn't want to use it again. In the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everyone in the chat room noagendastream.com good to see human resources there are all present and thank you to our artists Martin JJ again crushing it with artwork for episode 727

48:49 Which was... what was the title of that show? That was, which was Thursday. It's a short-term memory loss. I forgot what I cooked a bitchin' about the other day! Yeah, it was... oh yeah Win by Losing Oh yeah this is nice it was the Caitlyn Jenner subtle background with man transitioning to IT. It was a nice piece. A nice piece of art We need more original art we need more entries Yeah, it comes and goes. It's unusual that I think it depends on... It's like when I take notes for the show titles as we go along and sometimes the show is so compelling that you don't take any notes because I'm too into the show. And I think this happens with our artists. I think they listen and they go, oh wait a minute, I got it. I mean, Jim and Craig got some art out of it. I don't know what I even heard. That's how it happens to my theory

49:52 Well, we do have some people to thank. Including Sir Mark Workman from Dayton Ohio who came in with 78910. Nice sequential number! Yes very good I like to see that more often He sent a very short note and i'd like to be the he just makes him a baron by the way this is over uh... he's got three knights knighthoods and he wants to be the Baron of Galtz Gulch Uh, you know what that calls for. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand I've tried twice before only to be rejected for non-sufficient funds On the PayPal? Yeah Oops My last jingle request this actually came in here as a handwritten check He wants a hillbilly delicious Hillbillary delicious In other words, delicous That's too delicious to believe my friend

50:52 Then little girl do not eat me Hillary and then karma for all little girl don't eat me And karma for all think we can do that. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend You've got Karma here, thank you very much for being the big exec today. That's great yeah, that was grea Brad Doherty in Brooklyn, New York at 388.88 by my calculations this completes my barony I'd like to be the Jersey Shore, Baron of the Jersey Shore. Oh wait a minute... It's one of these things that I always have to remember to stretch this thing because it comes in... Alright here we go again. My Barony, I would humbly request my territory to be the Jersey Shore making me Sir Brad Baron of the Jersey Shore Can I get a trains good planes bad? You can take that to the bank and karma

51:50 Absolutely. That's docker debug. Oh, sorry here we go. All aboard trains good planes bad You've got karma Now I gotta...I think he sent you an email to Douglas Chick Yeah this is the one you used in the newsletter i believe Right Let me get it because its a little longer than what I used in the newsletter It was not effective in the newsletter by the way I noticed that I'll read it. Just kidding, I got it right here. 364 donation from Hank. Here we go...

52:29 In the morning from FEMA region north, I've been listening since show 698 and this is the first time I've donated. I have been a D-bag for too long! First time donation nice one Time for a de-douching an intrepid first visit toward knighthood The analysis of deconstruction of MSN you both provided is consistent and humorous It has highly significant value in this ass backward world My apologies for not contributing earlier it took about 33 or so times of hearing your wonderfully unique service could fade away It was a front counter bell being rung in my head somewhere. Where's my bell? Therefore, I had to act! I would have done so sooner but my wife and I just welcomed our first child Amelia into the world sorting out financing while it took awhile. Alas, I was never punched in the mouth. I stumbled onto your show through reference of another podcast which I have an eerie suspicion that Mr. Fletcher listens too no matter

53:27 uh... for answering and hitting whomever i can so he's going to be such a people in the mountain though you never got punched him out may please have some newborn karma it is not too much to ask like a hello citizen then shut up slave followed by two to the head and her head is gone okay Hello citizen shut up slave to the head head is gone. Yeah, hello citizen Shut up slave and see if I can do this should be able to do it. Hey citizen You've got karma And there you have it sir Haggis in Brandon tin Florida

54:13 Uh, stomach stew I guess. $250 Sir Haggis, Ewan is still a wanker douchebag. He liked the chemtrail LGY jingle with a carm i'm sure. You've got karma. That's something perverse about it. Kevin Trails, yay! He came to me with $2.50 and Mark McAvoy in Fountain Valley California, $200 and one cent. Simple note keep up the good work gentlemen. Thank you very much.

54:54 Vrolik. Almost, vrolik. Vrolik. Which means happy. Vrolik means happy! Like joyous. Yes, vrolik. Interesting... In Doordrecht? Oh he's in the next list that's all we got we don't know how many more. Yeah that worked out great Okay, we'll talk about Irwin in the second half. I just need to thank Sir DH Slammer and Dame Bangbang. So from student 33 at the PO Box, I got the Ready for Hillary poster. He sent me a bottle of wine and a Glen Fittich single malt 12-year

55:40 Scotch whiskey well give you something to drink tonight. Yeah, do you ever say after the show and but it was cool He put his ceiling wax on with his night ring imprint right on this I don't want to open it now It looks too beautiful Nice appreciate that very much pass all right okay? We'll be thanking the rest of wine did he send ya know is one that was a mmm It was a I'd have to get it from the kitchen. It's a bottle that Is like Some benefit something for kids forget never mind. I'm sorry yeah, yes You are these will be thanking the rest of our donors

56:19 later on the program, $50 or above. These are the people who we call executive producers and associate executive producers because just like Hollywood it's how it works when you financially support anything in the arts...financially certainly you get these credits! You can see them on television all the time these people aren't doing anything other than helping out financially and of course beyond television you get all kinds of drugs You get to hang out with the actresses, you know. Red carpet stuff... We don't have that but we- Yeah but they're dropping like you know Like flies? Yeah thats it! Our execs are out there doing it and you too can go out and propagate our formula! Our formula is this.. We go out, we hit people in the mouth! Shut up! Shut Up! See!?

CHAPTER 17 / 45 Discussion

NOAA Report and the Global Warming Hiatus "Glitch"

The hosts deconstruct a new NOAA report published in Science Magazine that claims the "global warming hiatus" never occurred. They examine the methodology, specifically the use of "bias corrections" and "Empirical Orthogonal Teleconnections" to re-analyze sea surface temperatures. They argue that the data was "fudged" to eliminate the 15-year pause in rising temperatures to suit a political narrative.

noaa· global warming· hiatus· data bias· science magazine· empirical orthogonal teleconnections

57:21 I did a fair amount of work yesterday about, on this new report about the glitch. And you know, I love me a good glitch. Which glitch? Oh! The global warming pause caused by glitch in data. I have an introductory clip if you want it. Very good, I'd love a clip let me see what... Yes Rich, the new NOAA report contradicts warming pause A new study rejects the theory of a pause on global warming over the past 15 years. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says an apparent hiatus in rising temperatures likely comes from limits on data from previous eras, and that warming, quote, has in fact been as fast or faster than that seen over the last half of the 20th century."

58:14 This is so fantastic. So let's just summarize for a second, all scientists were all 97% of them were all in on yeah number Yeah well they were they were all the same bogative number We're all in on you know we can't really explain why we see this pause and the global warming but it's you know, it's not atypical. These things do happen and you know but it was annoying because it was being thrown in their face continuously constantly so now NOAA the National Oceanographic what is this? Atmospheric Agency Administration Thank You

58:58 They went back and they changed a number of things in the way... Let's go back and change history. They did, they changed the data. And this is not really largely discussed that there's no one really diving into it So I went and first of all it was hard to get the actual report because you have to purchase it, and you have to be a member of some scientific... Bill Nye the science guy can get it but I can't. You have to be a clown then you can get the information So they published in Science Magazine the general article under the title, Lost and Found Earth's Missing Heat. A reanalysis of surface temperatures suggests there was never a global warming hiatus." Now this is interesting because once again they're using all these kind of fudge words and if you look at the scientific article itself published in Science Express

59:59 the headline there, of course all of this is in PDF marked up in the show notes at 728.noagendanotes.com. Possible artifacts of data biases in the recent global surface warming hiatus and then the opening paragraph Much study has been devoted to the possible causes of an apparent decrease in the upward trend of global surface temperature since 1998, a phenomenon that has been dubbed the Global Warming Hiatus. Here we present an updated global surface temperature analysis that reveals the global trends are higher than reported by the IPCC especially in recent decades

1:00:38 and that the central estimate for the rate of warming during the first 15 years of the 21st century is at least as great as the last half of the 20th century. These results do not support the notion of a slowdown in the increase of global surface temperature." So, what they did...and we're talking the difference of 0.1...0.03 degrees centigrade. Well let's stop before you continue and then I'm going to just ask quick questions here After all this global warming stuff. Mm-hmm they got it wrong, and then they got it right This is the obvious Problem that you can't say we're right We're right were right and then say yeah But we were wrong on this we were even more right than we knew That doesn't work isn't science The whole idea is that its reproducible that anyone's not okay? Yes well It is if you change things and so I found

1:01:38 The methodology they used to change this data in the supplementary material for the report, Possible Artifacts of Data Biases in the Recent Global Surface Warming Hiatus. And again I marked a few things up here but And this thing is filled with...I mean, you think it's like we just measure everything and then we put it together and we average it out. We look at the graph. We have the data points. You put it into Excel and it poops out." No! They have had the formulas that are in this document to me nothing I've ever seen before. It was Einstein-type writing stuff

1:02:20 And the things they've changed, that's what it looks like. Like Einstein formulas. The main things they've changed is they've taken different data sets from the buoys in the ocean... They've taken different pieces of data from engine temperature monitoring systems and then when you read- Of course I'm way out of my depth here but under the Data & Analysis Method Maybe you can help, John. The new analyses presented here are based on foundational data sets and processing procedures for land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature. The data sets are publicly available so we could put this into our own spreadsheet I'm sure it wouldn't work as well And so the bias corrections are applied to the stations

1:03:08 They give a number for data bank as described by Mena and Williams. So first of all, can you explain to me a bias correction? How do I interpret a bias correction? I'm guessing... Don't forget that I was kind of trained as a chemist not a physicist. Sure! I could tell you what white snake wasn't the number one in the top 20. Yeah, yeah, White Snake. It would be I would call it loosely a fudge factor. In other words, you know what the result's like, you got the result right? Here is the result and here is the initial formula that would make this result exactly what it is but it doesn't quite come out right so you bias it but you know this is the result, you're absolutely positive, you're totally convinced that this is what it is

1:04:05 And so then you throw in a little thing in there and, ah! Now it all works. Well here's how they did it... I think is cheating personally Listen to how they did it This is followed by computation of temperature anomalies for the station and the data bank So what I had the way understand that is there are anomalies in this temperature reading probably to the low side The anomalies are then averaged... Listen, the anomalies are then averaged within 5 by 5 degree boxes. So anything that was outside of the five by fiv- it may be 0.05 degrees. Oh, that's interesting! They close it in from the gridded anomalies A global analysis is performed for each year month using and here comes empirical orthogonal teleconnections

1:04:55 And this is throughout this document they're talking about the bias correction. We use bias correction and empirical orthogonal teleconnection methodologies So I look this up, and... ...I found a paper going back to 1981... ...titled Sampling Errors in the Estimation of Empirical Orthogonal Functions This is a way to prove to draw out climate in graphs. If you read this whole introduction, it's... Climate may be defined as the multivariate multiple-time probability distribution of states of the ocean ice atmosphere system and a primary goal in modern climatology is the measurement and understanding of the parameters describing the stationary probability distribution. My brain's freezing!

1:05:46 But now, we cannot know the exact EOFs for climate but must be satisfied with estimates of them based on a finite number of independent realizations of the instantaneous state of the field. The purpose of this paper is to provide an estimate of the sampling errors encountered in some common climatological applications. While much of the underlying theory exists in statistical literature, it's usually not a form convenient for the climatologist. Aha! You see? It's not convenient. So they have to bias things to make them fit into these EOF models

1:06:24 And again, so this paper goes through all kinds of things way above my head. But they really do conclude by saying that using EOFs you really can't... Conclusion. This paper we have reviewed some properties of EOS shown how they may be computed from grid point information and use standard linear analysis to estimate sampling errors. The discussion is focused on the applications, the climatology, then a whole bunch of theoretical crap. They're saying I'm going to paraphrase. It is not a great way to show the actual climate as it is happening, it is a good way to get to a point where you want to be in your presentation of climatological data That is not as important as who wrote this report This was the piece that got me excited because that's more my wheelhouse You look at

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LMI Consulting and Government Funding of Climate Research

The discussion shifts to LMI (Logistics Management Institute), a non-profit consultancy that co-authored the NOAA climate report. The hosts reveal that LMI receives hundreds of millions in funding from the Department of Defense and other federal agencies. They highlight the high executive salaries at LMI, suggesting the organization is a "gravy train" for government-aligned research.

lmi· noaa· department of defense· executive compensation· non-profit· climate change

1:07:18 I'm just switching computers here. The authors of the 81 report? No, the authors of this new... Of the new report. Yes, of the new sampling data and new data. Yeah And then i'm going to bring it up here. The Fudge Factor Report. So the head author... I've been by the way wanting to look into NOAA for awhile because there's something strange happening Well, there is another outfit that we have to look into This is the piece that I liked Okay, so the... So if you bring up this sciencemag.org you bring up the report and you can see there's a number of people who worked on it The head author though, hold on second it is loading here or the lead author Of course this website is loading slowly Here we go Is um This guy Carl I'm sorry I am losing in here for a second Where was it? Carl

1:08:14 Now, let me switch to the other thing here. Dammit! Ah, here we go... Thomas R Karl and he's the lead author and they have to disclose their affiliations And along with Karl... Is it a K or C? A K. Thomas R Karl And then there is...and so all the authors on this, Carl is the lead. Anthony Arguez, Boyan Huang, J.H. Loremware and then there's James R. McMahon and he has an affiliation with LMI. I don't know if we've ever looked at LMI? No. The LMI Consulting Group is a huge

1:09:03 non-governmental organization. They actually call it something else, it's a research you know a federally funded research and development organization and they are very proud here saying LMI advisor coauthors science article refuting global warming hiatus And then they talk about this... I thought it was NOAA that did this. No, NOAA just did this but they were advised by LMI and LMI, this is the outfit you gotta look into lmi.org A new article published in Science and co-authored by LMI climate analytics expert James McMahon refutes the notion that climate change is on hiatus, finding that global surface temperatures in fact continue to increase. The research was led by NOAA and the new outfit NCEI—the National Centers for Environmental Information whose entire job is to make this kind of stuff up—in Asheville

1:10:00 addresses the global warming hiatus. They're very proud of the work that LMI has done, and if you go back and look at LMI's history which really started as a...let me see who brought this? This is Eisenhower or someone I think here, the history of LMI And you should look at the board of directors while we're at it, John. I'm looking at them now. Yeah. The history of LMI was logistics they helped government departments with logistics and now they have expanded into climate change defense all of these different things and so i of course go and look up the 990 the tax form for LMI. Now I'm okay

1:10:42 I'm okay. We have a lot of non-governmental organizations, not for profit that help the government but you always have to be on the lookout for where's their funding coming from? Oh did i mention in 2013 they received 223 million dollars Mainly from, oh you know USAID Department of Defense, Department of State, Department of Health and Human Services. The biggest one being the Department of Defense $132 million. Department of Health and Human Services $25 million. Department of State $12 million I don't see EPA anywhere on there but that may be for 2014 we just haven't seen it yet

1:11:23 Even that, even with these huge numbers we've seen, you know, Rand Corporation. But then when you get into the nitty gritty and look at the salaries of people running this non-profit government funded research and development center who help us determine that climate numbers needed to be changed in order fit the lie What do you think the president and CEO, Nelson M. Ford makes over there? And this is base salary and bonuses because they get bonuses in this nonprofit from our tax dollars. I would say what he should make it about 450 to $650,000 a year that...I think six would be a little on the high side. Well it's big, this operation. How about 1.4 million dollars? Seems a little steep. How about the executive vice president

1:12:11 Well, he should be making no more than a half-a million. Yeah one million dollars Now how about the senior vice president Jeffrey Bennett? I don't know probably a mil 839 the corporate secretary 784 thousand their salary they have over 12 million dollars in salaries just for management alone We should be so lucky And just the total other salaries and wages throughout the course of the year, so outside of the executive compensation current officers directors trustees 105 million dollars. This is the freaking gravy train baby! Well they do what they're told So I think that this needs to be... Have you looked at the board? Have you seen who's uh...? I'm looking at them

1:13:02 I think this has to be called into question that LMI was a part of this with these, you know very large executive compensation packages. Yeah if they helped to create the data that was requested everyone's pretty much getting paid handsomely. Yeah no well now that you got the...you tried to do these guys now that whole thing is in so NOAA is like uh I don't know if do what they're told, and who's telling who. I still stick with my thesis that this is a giant mind control experiment

CHAPTER 19 / 45 Discussion

Climate Change as a Mind Control Experiment

The hosts propose that the shifting narratives around climate change—from global cooling in the 1970s to the current warming models—constitute a large-scale mind control experiment. They discuss the upcoming Paris Climate Summit and the transition from measuring carbon parts-per-million to a "two-degree Celsius" temperature target as a way to facilitate carbon credit trading.

mind control· climate change· paris summit· carbon credits· john holdren· propaganda

1:13:42 Because we did go from global cooling in the 70s. With the same people, John P. Holdren... Now the advisor to President Obama was all-in on global cooling. And now we've switched over this and then we have...and you get into arguments with people who bring up things like this. They tell us that it's never going to snow in England. It snows in England constantly. No I'm sorry but let me correct you. Let me correct you Ten years ago, it was said poor children in the UK. The only snow they will ever know in the future is in snow globes And it's been snowing ever since. They openly fudge their numbers in climate change, which I think by the way is what really put...people still think about that because they were hacked and everyone says oh these numbers aren't coming out the way we want well let's just change the numbers let's just fudge it let's just make changes so everything works out for us yeah but now they put that under the heading of empirical orthogonal trans connections

1:14:47 But that's not what the memo said and that was a problem. I think when Hurricane Katrina hit, oh we're gonna have these every year worse and worse? We haven't had a major hurricane ever since It's one thing after another. It's one open lie after another, but they persist and persist and persist, and everybody is lockstep in. I mean there are few people that are skeptics and there're 30 thousand scientists who were skeptics that nobody is going to pay any attention too because all scientists are not...30 thousand, they don't count! And it's one thing after another and the only explanation for me this is fantastic

1:15:28 probably valuable mind control study that is being Right going on right beneath us right under our noses, and we just you know just watch okay. You can't do anything about it We have made no changes the two of us and everybody else who bitches about this have changed nobody's mind Yeah, you're right So if there still have listeners who love the show but they think were full of crap about this yeah No matter what we say, no matter what we uncover. The 97% thing is a hoax and we did a whole show about it Yeah A complete hoax I should look up the show number People can go back and listen to that That's one of the best things you've ever done Summarizing the 90-97%, it's only 97 percent of the... What was it?

1:16:15 30%? Or it's that we're favorable or something. You didn't have to go back and look at it. It was, no, it was 97 percent of the 30 percent who had published a paper positively with positive inclinations or strong inclination towards... 97 percent of 30%. Right. And so now the problem is well maybe this will help the problem in Paris. Of course we have coming up The Big Summit. This is this is the big one This is coming up in December, I think somewhere on the end of the year. And this is where we're going to have to finally do something people because you know, we have carbon credits to exchange and we've got money to send to corporations and US corporations in poor countries and just money's gotta flow but they have to come up with a path

1:17:10 to the 2 degree centigrade or Celsius increase. And this is how sick it is Instead of saying, because we know the parts per million hasn't worked. It was the 350 dot org, 350 parts per million of carbon dioxide which it you know, we blew past that have we has has the climate gone up by an equal amount? The temperature going up on equal amount no so now what 400 425 parts per million some wherever over four yeah wherever you want to measure this But it's so sick that now they can get away with, because make no mistake. They're getting away with changing this data consistently. They're going to make the two degree number centigrade...that's going to be the standard. That's going to be the mark. It's not gonna be in carbon dioxide parts per million. It's going to be the temperature

1:18:03 And so they need to get it as close to two degrees as possible with all these fudge factors by Paris, so we can show that oh my god if we get like one tenth of a degree closer and you know we're all going to die. The oceans will rise the ice will melt the polar bears will not be able to swim...all of these things! I'm curious to see, they will have to do another round of fudging of the numbers. You can put it in the book because of this ludicrous idea of saying that the entire Earth average is up by two degrees. Yeah yeah you're probably right Now the question for you when you say this is a giant mind control program obviously... Experiment not a program experiment Where would this have originated from?

CHAPTER 20 / 45 Discussion

Social Media Shaming and Intelligence Community Influence

The hosts discuss how the intelligence community, specifically the CIA, uses social media and celebrity "influencers" like Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie to marginalize skeptics of official narratives. They describe the use of "propaganda units" to shout down dissenting opinions in online forums, creating a false sense of consensus on scientific and political issues.

cia· nsa· social media· propaganda· influencers· celebrity activism

1:19:01 Obviously, when you have a conspiracy theory like that which is this is it's a true conspiracy theory what you're propagating here. I don't know if it is but maybe... Okay let us just go with that way we can just be marginalized and worry about how do use the how is it possible all these thousands of scientists are all in and no one has blown the whistle? No one has said it's a... Well, people know that a lot of scientists will not jump in because they get the way it works. The way they've been doing the experiments and working is kind of this all works very beautifully during the social media era because you shout down everybody

1:19:39 In fact, there's a bunch of news stories about all these operations going on in Russia where they have... The propaganda units? Propaganda units. And they have like hundreds of people online going into forums and saying this and that. Then they do it constantly. They're working 12 hours a day long shifts doing this is very easy to do if most people especially newbies who haven't been in the online or online in the online era Let's say from the 80s. Newbies, people who just came in let's say in the last 15 years they're very susceptible to being condemned online whether it is on Facebook and of course everybody wants to be on Facebook so Facebook is a great place to promote stuff and everybodys on Facebook with a few exceptions

1:20:27 And you can get condemned and people can shout you down, and shout you down in every which way. They write these papers that people complain to... I don't know if it's a mind control experiment because there are so many...I think they're experimenting with how to make this work. Everything they do seems to be working out but it does involve Shouting people down, so the whole scientific principles when people go oh it's about science. Science is in! When science should be debating things like this constantly especially when you're using computer models but they've shouted that down. They use phony baloney information like 97% which is 97 percent of 30 percent of something which is bull crap

1:21:11 And then you get celebrities and all the celebrities are all in. I've heard that 97% of things said by all kinds of people, including Angelina Jolie and the guy Clooney Titanic kid. What's his name? Yeah. Titanic Kid is named. Yeah. Titanic Titanic kid guy. Wall Street Titanic kid guy the titanic wall street, the wolf guy. He said it i saw him say it and you see and so those are influencers that you use the dumb actors and actresses as influencers because they are influencers like somebody said uh you get kim kardashian to wear an apple watch or gold yeah or you do a

1:21:59 He's always good. And then the Wall Street Wolf, Titanic kid guy? He's good. Especially when he has his beard on and then he is in climate mode. Matt Damon...Matt Damon is a good one. Matt Damon is another one. So you still haven't answered who would have originated this? Well yeah I kind of...you kinda gave me two questions. Who specifically? Well the people that are like to do these experiments is the Defense Department, the CIA. The CIA loves doing these sorts of things I don't think the NSA does they don't care i don't think their experimental It has to be the CIA, the DIA, the intelligence community group of people. But this... And the purpose which I think is just a dry run for something bigger. Well we can go back to The Church Commission when this all came out not this specifically but where their admission was yes, we have CIA agents at Newsweek and CBS, we have them everywhere. Right and they're still there. We've documented a number of them in most of them are easy to identify

CHAPTER 21 / 45 Discussion

EU External Action Service and Anti-Propaganda Units

The European Union has established the European External Action Service (EEAS) to counter Russian propaganda. The hosts describe this Brussels-based unit's mission to monitor Russian media and promote EU institutions, including launching a Russian-language channel. They compare the unit to the "techno-experts" established by the U.S. State Department.

eeas· european union· russia· propaganda· ukraine· diplomatic service

1:23:02 So, you mentioned earlier about Russia coming up with their propaganda unit. There's two more that have surfaced just in this week. The first one is the EU—the European Union—and they've released... I love it! They do not give a crap. They just put a press release out and their outfit is called… hold on a second Because I look it up and they have a website. Here it is, the European Union set up a special unit to counter what it says is propaganda coordinated by Russia amid the Ukraine crisis The Brussels-based unit is tasked with monitoring Russian media and promoting activity of EU institutions

1:23:47 The team was created in the framework of, here it comes... ...the European External Action Service, EEAS. And you can look that up at eeas.eu and consists of five leading individuals who will all be in charge of the following Let's see there will be a European channel broadcasting in Russian Russian language programming to be launched this month, 2015. What was it again? It wasn't EEAU what was it? It's the EEAS European External Action Service. Just a great name too! Yeah And so if you go there you can see all the things that they're working on and I luckily these outfits all have RSS feeds So I could follow these but here is the many roles let's see

1:24:41 Oh first I have to accept cookies or should. I refuse cookies no they will block if you're I'm gonna hit our refused cookies You can yeah, you if you run some of these System I use spy hunter for if you run this on boy you got a Mac you can't use any of these things They wipe them out and they reset them all the time is the way to go. So, the EEAS is the European Union's diplomatic service that helps the EU's foreign affairs chief, the high representative of foreign affairs and security policy...that used to be the no-neck monster she's out now...carry out the union's common foreign and security policy. So there part of the European Union State Department very much like the techno experts that Hillary Clinton

1:25:25 gave birth to during her reign at the State Department. Howard Glassman The actual website is eeas.europa.edu, otherwise you're running into some real estate company. John Main Sorry about that. Now...so that is the European Union and that's well-funded but there is another outfit which is called the UN...hold on a second...the UN Foundation So we have the, not to be confused with the United Nations. This is the UN Foundation heavily funded mainly by Ted Turner's one billion dollar gift and you need so look at unfoundation.org this is the board you want to be on and here's what they've said

CHAPTER 22 / 45 Discussion

UN Foundation and Journalist Training Programs

The UN Foundation, funded by Ted Turner, is partnering with Thomson Reuters to train a "squadron" of journalists in 33 countries. The program aims to simplify and popularize the UN's "Sustainable Development Goals" ahead of a major summit. The hosts critique the use of subsidies to influence editorial platforms and list the high-profile board members involved, including Queen Rania and Kofi Annan.

un foundation· ted turner· thomson reuters· sustainable development goals· journalism

1:26:15 A United Nations foundation created by billionaire Ted Turner along with a branch of media giant Thomson Reuters is starting to train a squadron. What's a squadron? How many in a squadron? You can look that up! A squadron of journalists and subsidized media content in 33 countries including the US and Britain. A squadron is 12-24 Well, it should be more if they're in 33 countries. In an effort to popularize the bulky and sweeping UN-sponsored sustainable development goals prior to the global UN summit this September where UN organizers hope they will be endorsed by world leaders... This is... Wow! Yes wow good one now listen I'll give you a full hundred points for this Listen to their promo reel What kind of world do we want to live in?

1:27:13 A one where I'm a slave, please? World of inequality, poverty and pollution. Yay! Or world of peace prosperity and opportunity for all The choice is clear the decision is ours We can make a better world our reality But we have to act now The United Nations is where the world comes together To advance peace and progress It's where all of us have a voice in the world we want. The United Nations Foundation connects people, ideas and resources to support the UN's life-saving and life changing work Together we are a powerful constituency for change Together our voices and our actions are helping create a world where children don't die from preventable diseases

1:28:08 A world where the rights and needs of girls and women are recognized. Yay! A world where we spark economic growth by rising to meet the challenge of climate change. And a world where a strong U.S.-UN relationship promotes global peace and security. Hell yeah, how could we be... We're making progress but we can't stop now. No no no Every community every country Every person has a role to play. That's right join us in helping the UN build better world I continue to read about this journalist and media program quote very often the problem of the United Nations is that speeches

1:28:51 The speech is long, full of acronyms and the jargon is difficult to understand says Monique Villa head of the Thomson Reuters Foundation. Making the jargon of the UN understandable is quite important under the plan Villa's foundation that's Thomson Reuters non-profit arm so we're already a layer down will carry out the training under contract from the UN Foundation. So they're taking money from Ted Turner to train journalists to communicate the message properly and simple, simple to understand language. Journalists from Australia to Peru, from Britain to Zimbabwe will be given five-day training programs by instructors drawn largely from the ranks of former Reuters journalists The material will include

1:29:38 It will encompass, among other things how to better understand and explain UN opaque concepts of sustainability with at least one section devoted to financial and economic concepts. Training sessions for the journalists whose parent organizations are as of yet unnamed, are slated to run through August. BUS training sessions will take place in New York and Los Angeles. Who will be given instructions and whose editorial platforms will be subsidized has not yet been announced. Overall subsidies are expected to range between $25-100k for each trainee for the subsidy

1:30:16 Nice. The subsidy approach of the UN Foundation, according to the officials is not dissimilar to the funding that the Bill and the Mill...the Mill and Belinda Gates Foundation has provided for several years to The Guardian to help explain AIDS, tuberculosis malaria etc Charter schools. Yeah, does anyone in prison? Does anyone see the danger in all this is What could possibly go wrong tell me I'll fight in together That's that's why the global warming thing is so dangerous because it's obviously a just one of the problem one of the

1:30:56 Keystones to whatever scheme is afoot to create that you know this is all the elite thing again Did you look at the board of the United Nations Foundation? Yeah, oh no not let's just review Ted Turner of course a Kathy Calvin I don't know what she doesn't ring a bell But then you gotta have a hottie her majesty Queen Rhina from Jordan get the hotty on board right below her so to speak Kofi Annan then see Wang Ming The CEO of the Abril group out of Brazil, Fabio. By the way, Abril is THE biggest publisher in South America! There you go this is the collusion with the media right in front of us. Right in front paying for it paying to train Emma Rothschild Well hello

1:31:51 You know the Jews are involved somewhere, John. Andrew Young! There's an interesting cross-section of people... Muhammad Yunus from Bangladesh Let's see who was on Climate and Energy Bankers Yeah oh yeah This is a good group this would be great drinking club And Ted Turner knows how he knows his business He knows news he now he knows how to make news about how to How to put together a news organization. Exactly, how to put together news organization So we need to keep our eye on the United Nations Foundation We're doomed! Well there's that...

CHAPTER 23 / 45 Discussion

Chocolate Weight Loss Hoax and Lazy Journalism

The hosts recount a hoax by science journalist John Bohannon, who published a deliberately flawed study claiming chocolate helps with weight loss. The study was picked up by global media outlets without verification. The hosts use this as an example of "amateur hour" in modern journalism and the ease with which "bad science" is disseminated.

john bohannon· chocolate diet· media hoax· science journalism· peer review

1:32:37 And they will explain to us the same. This is all part of, again mind control experiment They will be out there saying what they were taught to say and unknowingly most of them, oh yeah okay It reminds me of this clip Let's play I don't know if you want to stay on this topic but i do want to play a little clip because of this scam that was presented and shown on Newsnight. And let's play it, this is... since we're talking about journalism and the corruption of everything Let's play Chocolate One

1:33:16 chocolate. Does chocolate help you lose weight? You might have read reports recently of some German research claiming that it can very sadly it was all a hoax the deliberately flawed study was designed to show how easily the media will swallow bad science here's Evan Davis Science journalist John Bohannon made up a false identity, Johannes Bohannon PhD. He set up a bogus research institute simply accrued website and he conducted a real study based on a tiny sample of seven men and 11 women split into different groups

1:33:54 In tiny samples, randomness can generate results and that's what happened here. One showed that the people who ate a bar of chocolate today lost more weight than the others. Bingo! On the back of this dodgy conclusion, the study made headlines around the world It was accepted for publication in one journal Mr. Bahanen found himself doing media interviews with no one taking much trouble to check out the thoroughness of his work It's real! It's real! And then when he comes on and they interview him later, He makes the comment that I think kind of summarizes journalism in the modern world John it was interesting that no one had even taken the trouble To Google your fictitious name and find you didn't exist

1:34:41 Yeah, well journalists are lazy. You and I both know that. It's your hoax exercise! What does it say about the reporting of science and of diet science in particular? Uh...it seems to be amateur hour. And there we go! And we do have a few people to thank for show. 728, 8, including Erwin Froelich. I wanted to mention something. Douglas Chick mentioned that his donation was

CHAPTER 24 / 45 Discussion

Associate Executive Producer Credits and Show Philosophy

The hosts read a second list of donors, acknowledging "Associate Executive Producers" who contributed $50 or more. They discuss the show's philosophy of remaining independent from advertisers and corporate interests. They emphasize that the listeners are the "producers" and that the show's data is not packaged or sold to third parties.

donations· value-for-value· associate executive producers· advertising· independent media

1:35:41 I believe he's the one, yeah. It was half of 728. It was a half number. I like that idea! Yeah which was an interesting idea. So 728 and he did half of 764? 364. That's good...I like that. That's a good idea. Yes we can do that with every even number. We got 790 coming up so just encouraging people Anyway, Erwin came in from Netherlands at 165.14. He wanted a de-douching since he's not donated since show 464. It was getting along ways. You've been de-douched. Since you've been consistently providing value making my commute bearable

1:36:21 We try. He's gonna try to keep people from... he wants to shorten the show by 30, we got this show down at 245 and I think that's going to be where we're going to try to keep it. Try it out. David Villiou in Concord California 12345 Eric B. Elonea in Murfreesboro Tennessee and he did send a small note somewhere just as little bitty one saying he loves this show And of course, I misplaced the note immediately. I don't know why I do this. It's crazy. Check under the pile of books. Eric Asbury in Brandon Florida 8910 Sir Quiston He says resist me much and I will obey Hail Apple

1:37:13 Hail Apple! Sir Quiston in Blight, you have to hold your arm up. I did show the watch yet so why don't have a watch well then that's not true hail apple $75 in Blight and Lincolnshire UK by rar.com which i assume it was is the The decompressor mm-hmm 7280 from Omaha, Nebraska. Sorry says slipped into douche enos and His father passed father died which I think probably is a good excuse no he says lousy excuse No, it's a good It's a good about that will take it Jonathan Diggle in Winnipeg Manitoba 6969

1:37:57 John Hamilton, 6961 from Carlsbad California needs a de-douching. He says he's especially after listening to our analysis religiously over the past five years and never getting around to showing my appreciation then uses the usage which I detest by the way. I'm gonna call you out John because Adams used it once. My bad! What does that even mean? Well, you didn't... It means I am bad? No. It was my bad move My bad mistake. I regret it. I'm sad Sorry will never happen again. My bad He needs a deducing, let me give him the deducing. You've been DEDUCED! And I will say that you called me out on using that privately and I really have refrained from using it. No, your right- I want to stop the thing for a second...you are a lot better than I am when it comes to killing

1:38:51 a usage that we don't want to use. We have a bunch of rules on the show about it. What was it? There's another, I've lost. I can't remember a lot of... It's not when all is said and done it's uh- Out of the blue you use out of the blue that's been yeah no Yeah No A lot of yeah no Some guys use something else I don't remember I banned this You know its one of those we've banned and I don't know if we have said much Wendy Packard 6933 out of parts unknown

1:39:29 She went to the beer circus in Lagunitas, Chicago and our group was The Robber Baronettes. And I'm like...I wanna be a baronette. I gotta be a dame first." Okay? Zachary Gilbreck in Cordova, Tennessee 5678 we run out of steam on this today's show by the way pretty quickly. Sir Taylor in Lost Wages Nevada 75678. Sam long in Toronto, Ontario is sir. Sam the one sir. Sam exactly sir sam 55 you may be a baronet by now Whoops sir Sam and I have some reason that thing went down a mile Steve Edwards double nickels on the dime from Ohio Jeffrey Schwab in Olympia Washington 5510 also job karma works he says Alexander Sokovy in Moscow hey

1:40:21 Cory McDonald, and the rest of these are $50. And it will be done. Cory McDonald, Richfield Minnesota, Brian Scosaro in Chattanooga... It was basically and essentially were the other words we banned from the show? Yeah well yeah but no this was a phrase one of those phrases like not at the end of the day when all is said and done but The question is John what is the phrase that pays! We're with the $50 donors. By the way, Chattanooga Tennessee just beat out Port Angeles Washington in outside magazine voting and that's because they have a choo-choo. Brian Matthews in Bellbrigan Dublin Ireland 50.

1:41:10 Fact of the matter was a fact of the matter. Yeah, I think it was fact of the matter He just used it and used it and use that back to the matter the fact of the matter you use Christopher Walker Depere Wisconsin 50 Kevin Johnson Phoenix Arizona 50 Carol Garrett Garrett in Eureka Kansas Eric mann in Spring Hill somewhere other Florida Bill Hudak in Huder. Timonium, which I think is a great name for a town and an element to Monium Maryland and Sir Brett Farrell in the home of somewhere Jason Deluzio on Chatsford, Pennsylvania.

1:41:51 Pennsylvania, and finally last but not least comes in every show Sir Mark Tanner who's probably a baron in Whittier California. That's all we got for Show 728. Not a lot but it was something. Well that was a lot of low donations that's the other thing that's kind of unusual. It's a small spreadsheet let's put it that way. Yeah you determine by file size yes We really appreciate all the support we get. It keeps us going, it actually does keep us going so thank everybody who came in with 3333. We've got I see a 1313 some 1212's 1111's our fives of course our fours those are left and some two... Well the fours no most of the fours are weeklies oh they're weekly fours? Oh that's nice nice yeah excellent

1:42:41 And of course, with the work that John and I are doing we've taken this path which is makes me happy. You know? I don't work for anyone but the people who actually support the program. Yeah, they're producers. They are producers and this product is for you it's not for advertisers by selling on the vast numbers of listeners to the program Well, we have probably a lot Yeah, exactly. We don't even know how many... You don't sell them to any advertiser. We just say hey look at these guys they're all you know they think it's certain... Normally you'd take a group that we have listening the show and you could make claims here. We study you of course. We study you and then we get results back in this study where we find out what you think how old you are what you're good for or what do your work? Do not work all this sort of thing and then we package that up and that would be product

1:43:35 and then we say to an average look at we've got these guys they listen to our show yeah now that it's time do you know that would be one way. We could also, we could also, we could also be taking money from Brothers!" You know, to promote death to the planet. I'm still waiting for the Koch brothers check. The Koch brothers if they were producers... Anyone else! Or we have provided analysis that people have used for investment tips and investment strategies, I should say that have paid off for them a little irksome is that we are so good

CHAPTER 25 / 45 Discussion

Samsung Galaxy Ad and "Yeah-No" Linguistic Trend

The hosts notice a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge commercial that uses the phrase "Yeah, no," a linguistic quirk they have frequently discussed on the show. They joke about the show being so "ahead of the times" that its internal jargon is now appearing in mainstream advertising.

samsung· advertising· linguistics· yeah-no· trend tracking

1:44:13 Yeah, no. Right? Yeah no... I had really not heard of this yeah-no phenomenon until you and i started talking about it our own use of yeah-no. Yeah! No. It would was it any had you heard about it anywhere else? No. Yeah, no. Yeah, no but no no Our show is so good and so trending and so ahead of the times that it is now even being used in advertising! This is the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge. It comes with built-in wireless charging capabilities The iPhone 6... Yeah, no not so much See what I mean?

1:44:52 We could be doing so many different things in our life. I actually have seen that ad and didn't pick that up. I'm gonna give everybody a Jobs Karma, thank you all for supporting the best podcast in the universe! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. It's your birthday, birthday! On Noah's ship, yeah! And very short list today. As far as I could tell we only have one John Hamilton will turn 54 on June 9th We say happy birthday to you from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe! It's your birthday, yeah! Two barons we welcome today Sir Mark Workman becomes the Baron of Galt's Gulch

CHAPTER 26 / 45 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Jeremy Cooper and Ken Gross

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for Jeremy Cooper and Ken Gross, who have each contributed over $1,000 to the program. They are dubbed "Sir Cooper" and "Sir Ken of Pencil-Tucky," respectively. The hosts welcome them to the "Northern Gender Roundtable" and mention the physical rings and certificates sent to knights.

knighthood· jeremy cooper· ken gross· peerage· ceremony

1:45:40 And Sir Brad Doherty becomes Baron of Jersey Shore, and we welcome both of them to the Peerage map. Itm.im slash peerage and we'd like to invite Jeremy Cooper and Ken Gross up to the stage just be careful of my blade John yours yeah Yeah, no. Jeremy Cooper and Ken Gross! Both of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe for about $1,000 or more We are happy to bring you into the table of the Knights and the Dames of The Northern Gender Roundtable I'm hereby pronounce to Kate the Sir Cooper Black Knight Sir Cooper And Sir Ken Of Pencil Tucky For You Gentlemen we have Hookers & Blow Rent Boys and Chardonnay We've got Ass Cream and Bear Fillings Girlfriend Experience Good Bourbon Porn Stars and Pop

1:46:27 Raspberry pies and breakfast burritos, hot pants and booze. Mutton & Mead is the last one but maybe some breast milk and pablum if you're into that kind of thing go to knowagenthenation.com slash rings again I saw two or three tweets in the past two days people very proud...I hadn't read our a certificate in the long time, and I can't remember who it was who tweeted the picture of their certificate and the ring and ceiling wax. That's a pretty good certificate! Yeah, he gives you a lot of power Eric Joyce it hand over a lot of power. So he's the scribe He's an official scribe does he do that by hand these? Does he do that with uh you think he doesn't buy him I know he's got a really cool font that he uses huh But isn't this good It was much a macho Haley who very cool You know Pennsylvania does not touch Kentucky so what he's pencil tucky would be West Virginia

CHAPTER 27 / 45 Discussion

Obama's "Punching Above Their Weight" Diplomatic Trope

A montage is played featuring President Barack Obama using the phrase "punching above their weight" to describe various U.S. allies, including Norway, the Netherlands, Ireland, and the Philippines. The hosts highlight the repetitive nature of diplomatic rhetoric and how the U.S. characterizes almost every partner as its "strongest ally."

barack obama· diplomacy· allies· norway· netherlands· philippines

1:47:28 Well, that's maybe what he meant. Oh I was reminded and we need to do this more often now that we're in our eighth year and some people are very puzzled by some of the things that we just take for granted one of them is when i played President Obama sitting down with King Willem-Alexander of The Netherlands I was reminded by several producers, hey you know it's time to roll out that clip where we hear the president tell every representative of every country that they are our number one ally and they're all punching above their weight. It's fairly typical of the way that Danes have

1:48:08 punched above their weight in international affairs. I've said this before but i want to repeat Norway punches above its weight We have no stronger ally than the Netherlands they consistently punch above their weight Ireland punches above it's weight, It is small country The Philippines is not largest of countries using a phrase from boxing punches above his weight No stronger ally than the Netherlands. We have no stronger ally than Australia. Poland is one of our closest and strongest allies Great Britain is one of our closest, strongest allies As I said earlier Germany is one of our strongest allies

1:49:02 This state visit reflects the fact that the Republic of Korea is one of our strongest allies. Israel is one of our strongest allies, France is our oldest ally and continues to be one of our closest allies Italy is one of our strongest allies. Japan is, of course, one of our strongest and closest allies. There's a need for rescue mission when the world is threatened, the world needs help it calls on America And that's the story. We're big Indian givers in what we are Which brings us to another international story an incident

CHAPTER 28 / 45 Discussion

US Men's Soccer Victory over the Netherlands

The U.S. Men's National Team achieved its first-ever victory against the Netherlands in an exhibition match, winning 4-3 after trailing 3-1. The hosts dismiss the significance of the game, calling it a "mind control experiment" designed to make Americans more like Europeans by embracing soccer as a "one world sport."

soccer· usmnt· netherlands· world cup· exhibition game

1:49:49 USA beats Netherlands. Yes, this was interesting. We have networks going full throttle with women's soccer as the World Cup commences this weekend in Canada meanwhile the US men played a friendly today in the Netherlands and what a game it was down 3-1 second half they tied at three and then in the 90th minute Michael Bradley to Jordan Morris who plays at Stanford so Bobby would It is unbelievable they scored four to win the game. Down 3-1, they win 4-3. The U.S., a nice victory first ever win against the Netherlands. Yeah, the Netherlands are good. Yes they are! Sixth in the world. Thanks. Thank you Scott. They're good. Christina was there with Juan. Juan came over... Here's what I was going to say, oh we beat Netherlands Who cares? Why is this on the news?! It wasn't even a real game it was an exhibition game. It was sold out. Who cares?

1:50:50 Well, this is part of your mind control experiment. It's just to get us all so we're thinking like Europeans so that we can have one world government... One world sport! ...that they've already caved and now they want us in on this and oh course the great international game which you can use to manipulate the public is soccer because you could have countries playing countries if they had a dispute You can take it out on the field Well its either that or the Eurovision Song Contest They can take it out in song Look, I repeat in song contest your vision Australian. It's not nice Eurovision we've been through this it's not European as Eurovision you can be Japan can be a member of Europe In Eurovision that our dude wears address better than your dude and this is where the world is going

CHAPTER 29 / 45 Discussion

Jade Helm 15 and Urban Combat Training in Flint

The Jade Helm 15 military exercise has expanded to several states, including Michigan. Residents in Flint reported being startled by massive explosions and low-flying aircraft during an unannounced Army training session at a shuttered junior high school. The city spokesperson defended the lack of warning, stating the Army wanted to avoid "sightseers" during urban combat simulations.

jade helm 15· flint michigan· urban combat· army exercise· explosions

1:51:42 Now, police state. Police state... United Nations of Gitmo police state Jade Helm 15 has kicked off but it is not kicked off in Texas It's a number of states which I don't think a lot of people knew It goes up to Ohio and there's like four or five different states that are now going to be part of this large exercise. And it really is the largesse of the exercise that is interesting, and I did see a Blackhawk hovering over downtown Austin yesterday in what is truly a whisper mode these you know...it's a reduction

1:52:20 blade flap and energy from the engines. I think it might even be labeled Whisper Mode in the helicopter, believe it or not! But this kicked off in Flint, Michigan which is a great place to blow some crap up. It was a peaceful afternoon and then it turned hostile. I stand there outside said boom big huge explosion I mean it was loud Explosions you'd expect in a war zone echoed through Flint and people's homes shook and those inside were caught off guard. It all went down at the shuttered Lowell Junior High on the east side and we've learned the blasts are just an army exercise. There's older people, I mean they probably get my heart attacks. Spokesman Jason Lorenz says Flint has been in talks with the Army for months now about using parts of the city It's an exercise to help their personnel do training with urban environments That training includes aircraft and simulated ammunition And it will continue for the next 10 days I think they should have gave us a warning To let us know that there was

1:53:21 Army thing going on. I really do just after 1130 this morning the city sent out a release informing the public about the exercises People say the explosions went off right around 2 o'clock this afternoon What gives tonight? We're asking the tough question questions City residents may say hey Why don't we get a better heads up on when these training operations are going to be held where and this said this guy the spokeshole for the For the city is standing there chewing gum while he's listening to the question. I'm sorry the tough questions What's your answer to that? Well obviously, I can't speak for the army on them But we try to give people a heads up when we can We can't go into too much detail. We don't want people just coming to these things and sightseeing So we have to be careful with it And we obviously have to respect the Army's wishes he says for this thing all we have to respect the Army's wishes yes sir Yes

CHAPTER 30 / 45 Discussion

Police Tank Raid on Denver Shoplifter's House

Police in Greenwood Village, Colorado, used a tactical vehicle (tank) and explosives to destroy a residential home while pursuing a single shoplifting suspect. The homeowner, Leo Lech, called the police "paramilitary thugs" after his house was condemned due to the extensive damage. The hosts criticize the use of high-grade military gear for minor criminal offenses.

denver· greenwood village· police militarization· swat· shoplifting· property damage

1:54:17 You have residents and the military. They're trying to keep things under wraps. Now, the city plans to have Flint police officers in the areas where they will train to make sure that that residents know exactly what's going on and in the release sent out today The army says that doing this type of training will give their personnel An upper hand when they have to go into urban combat Nice nice but it will be wearing armbands Not in this report, but in the written reports. No photos no video of the personnel training for fear that ISIS will go after them. It's crazy! Then we have...this is a great one from Denver there was a shoplifter. What? ISIS? ISIS in America don't you listen to Pamela Geller they're here they're gonna chop off your head next

1:55:12 In Denver there was a shoplifter and he ran into- I have the clip! Well, it's a clip showdown. It's a clip off. Yes, a shoplifter... I have a 44 second clip. He was actually in Greenwood Village this little place right in the suburb And I got if you look at the picture of the chief of police a guy looks like an idiot a hole No, it looks like a hyped up second. A-hole's righted out a hole yeah Yeah, he's a totally which is not typical for all so they got a bunch of gear from the government So they decided to use in on some guys house Just literally destroy that house trying to get something with a tank with a tank tank yes, I think But well, I don't know what should we do play them both the same time

1:55:54 simultaneously. The house is now condemned and the homeowner calling police thugs. Wow, it even goes to the same soundbar! Wait a minute wait a minute yours wins I heard Osama bin Laden hold on. ...busted in wanted for shoplifting and a police force led by Greenwood Village PD the house is now condemned and the homeowner calling police thugs

1:56:46 If you go online and look at the Osama Bin Laden compound, I would say that... I would say this. This may even look a little worse. Leo Leck can't believe what's happened to his house. This is an abomination, this is an atrocity Together we walk around the home he bought and rented out to his son's family. This was a bathroom, this was a master bedroom, this was a kitchen A little boy's artwork And just about all their belongings visible for all to see Damaged by police firing from the outside trying to get the man out Inside, it's still a crime scene. You have a whole life worth of memories in there and that is all gone. Lack knows his part the structure is covered his insurance agent has already told him that It's police who have him fuming

1:57:36 They drove their tank right through all of our fences here. A tank? This is for one gunman, this is paramilitary force okay in any civilized nation okay this is the act of paramilitary thugs is what this is. This is for one gunman and while he waits and watches from the outside of a fence he can't help but think there had to be another way Now the question that immediately came to mind, why didn't they use tear gas and just

1:58:23 What's the fun of that? That's exactly it. Dopey cops in Greenwood Village are dumb! Why else would you be a cop in the town like that so you go and get all this gear that Homeland Security gave as part of their grand experiment now you got all your load up, you get to play army and you get to wreck some poor bastard's house Thank you very much. You know it's sued the town should be sued out of existence The problem is they you can't do anything about this sort of thing because you sue the town Yeah, you get a couple million bucks out of the deal The talent just passes the cost onto the taxpayers or takes out alone It makes the taxpayers pay more with these people have got to be eliminated from office They gotta be voted out

CHAPTER 31 / 45 Discussion

New York City Mugger Takedown by Citizens

In a rare positive news story from New York City, a group of bystanders tackled a mugger in Midtown Manhattan and forcibly recovered stolen cash for the victim. The hosts praise the citizens for taking action where law enforcement often fails, noting that the public is frequently the most effective deterrent to crime.

new york city· citizen's arrest· mugging· midtown manhattan· crime

1:59:09 There was a ray of light in the police state known as the United States of Gitmo Nation, in New York City. Finally! It's just a pinprick of light but it's a ray of light A mugger takedown in the middle of Midtown Several people forced an alleged thief to the ground near 35th and 8th Avenue And made sure that cash got back to the victim As I looked further down there were seven or eight guys tackling this guy Brian Jackson was walking out of his office building here when he saw the commotion and started shooting this video Someone did call 9-1-1 and the police responded in the video. They're ripping money out of his hand He had her money in his hand, and they ripped the money out And they get back to her and she's you know she's bawling I mean She was really shaken up, and she had a bloody lip and

1:59:58 and she had a scraped up leg. The woman got her purse and money back, and the alleged mugger learned a New York lesson I feel like New Yorkers are always so busy So does this give New Yorkers a bit of a better name? Yeah! I mean someone help! Someone help can you believe it?! This is the murk I grew up in It was a cool video. Five guys on him, one foot on his head and the other guy is choking him and they're grabbing the purse or money out of his hand... Go! Yay! Nice I like that. I like it. Like all the attempted bombings by airplanes with guys with shoe bombs in their dress. The public who stops it. These officials don't do anything

CHAPTER 32 / 45 Discussion

Red Cross Haiti Donation Scandal and Debt Mismanagement

A report by ProPublica and NPR reveals that the Red Cross raised $500 million for Haiti relief but only built six permanent homes. The hosts discuss allegations that the money was diverted to employee salaries and to pay off the organization's internal debts. They suggest this story may be a "smokescreen" to distract from similar issues involving the Clinton Foundation in Haiti.

red cross· haiti· propublica· npr· donations· clinton foundation

2:00:44 A new tank... Oh, they blow up some guy's- Some bastard's house. No! They didn't blow it up, they ran the ram to the tank through it Well they also shot at the second floor and took the walls down It was unbelievable People should search this thing and get out of here Well you don't have to search it, its in the show notes There you go. Which can be found at search dot N-A show notes dot com, also noagendaplayer.com is really handy if you just want to send someone a little clip or something from the show it helps you tweet it out helps you send an email link right into the segment of the show. So while your watching CNN I'm watching Democracy Now! I know its tough beat but your on it.

2:01:22 And then that was showed, they have some guests on and Amy Goodman is be there with her mouth kind of just slightly open like she's... With a little trickle of drool. So I've got this, this i don't remember We did the Red Cross thing, but this little version of the story is a little different. She presents it slightly differently with that little punchline I'm wondering now why PBS didn't tell us this? A new report says the Red Cross has squandered millions of dollars in donations for Haiti after the 2010 earthquake According to ProRepublica and NPR, the Red Cross raised about $500 million but managed to build just six permanent homes. The group had falsely claimed to have provided homes to 130,000 people

2:02:12 Some of the money was diverted to boost employee salaries and may have been used to wipe off tens of millions of dollars in Red Cross debt. Yay! Hey, we got all this money what are we going to do with it? You're gonna send it to Haiti no no no! Have a bonus. Take some money home. Yeah well we must reiterate this is they don't actually hide how they operate people seem flabbergasted every single time. They take in money and they do not directly re-appropriate that money. Yeah, they do not direct... And you know what? Screw it. We've been on I in particular have been on this Haiti bull crap since it happened in 2012 and but again It's this big pro publica and NPR This is to obfuscate the billions that the Clinton Foundation squandered let's just use their word

CHAPTER 33 / 45 Discussion

Trevor Aronson TED Talk on FBI Manufactured Terrorism

The hosts review a TED Talk by Trevor Aronson, author of "The Terror Factory," who argues that the FBI is responsible for more "terrorism plots" in the U.S. than any actual terrorist organization. Aronson claims the FBI uses informants to provide means and opportunity to mentally ill or desperate individuals. The hosts note that they have been reporting on this "national security theater" for years.

trevor aronson· ted talk· fbi· counterterrorism· entrapment· informants

2:03:08 Squandered. Yeah, I'm sure that's a bit of smoke screen now people who listen to this program know a lot of things Way ahead of anybody else This was the most frequently retweeted TED talk of the week it was presented I believe at Ted Canda Navia there's a tenor TEDx No It Was A TED you Sure yes Yes i specifically looked and I thought wow this doesn't I didn't know There was a ted But apparently there's a Ted outside the USA. No, Ted Candanavia Trevor Aronson who has written a book about it and it's uh It's a six or seven minute talk two quick clips his intro And then I'll do is outro the FBI is responsible for more terrorism plots in United States than any other organization More than al-qaeda whether now Shabab within Islamic State

2:04:00 more than all of them combined. This isn't likely how you think about the FBI, you probably think of FBI agents gunning down bad guys like John Dillinger or arresting corrupt politicians and sending Martha Stewart to jail after the 9-11 terrorist attacks The FBI became less concerned with gangsters and crooked elected officials The new target became terrorists And the pursuit of terrorists has consumed the FBI Every year the Bureau spends 3.3 billion dollars on domestic counterterrorism activities Compare that to just $2.6 billion combined for organized crime, financial fraud public corruption and all other types of traditional criminal activity I've spent years pouring through the case files of terrorism prosecutions in the United States And i've come to conclusion that FBI is much better at creating terrorists than it is catching terrorists In 14 years since 9-11 you can count about 6 real terrorist attacks on United States

2:04:51 These include the Boston Marathon bombings in 2013, as well as failed attacks such at a time when a man named Faisal Shahzad tried to deliver a car bomb to Times Square. In those same 14 years the Bureau however has bragged about how it's foiled dozens of terrorism plots The FBI has arrested more than 175 people in aggressive undercover counter-terrorism stings These operations, which are usually led by an informant provide the means and opportunity and sometimes even the idea for mentally ill and economically desperate people to become what we now term terrorists. The thing that bothers me about this TED talk is that you or I could have done this TED talk

2:05:34 Is it my attitude? We're doing this TED Talk right now. Is it my attitude, John? Is that why I don't get invited to do the TED Talk on the FBI creating more terrorists with retards? You know this is not the first guy who's noticed this and we're not the first podcasters who's noticed this. This is a very kind, it's well known I'm surprised he's the only guy that comes on a TED talk to do it! That's my point So he you know... He's got a book or something Yes he does here's his wrap up U.S government officials call this the war on terror It's really just theater A national security theater

2:06:16 with mentally ill men like Sammy Asmikash, unwitting actors in a carefully choreographed production brought to you by the FBI. That's right. Brought to you by the FBI. I'm glad he somebody...formularized the whole thing and put it on TED. Oh now everyone is going to be oh that's interesting The FBI who have made a pretty good... I am gonna stop you right here since something came up in that talk where was you I'm not, I'm telling you. I'm going to tell you this but i'm gonna tell you not to stop But I'm gonna tell you that I noticed this You have stolen from me my comment complaint about Martha Stewart

CHAPTER 34 / 45 Discussion

James Comey, Martha Stewart, and Host Banter

John C. Dvorak jokingly accuses Adam Curry of "stealing" his long-running complaint about James Comey's role in the Martha Stewart prosecution. The hosts engage in lighthearted banter about "communal" jokes and the tendency of comedians to share or take credit for specific lines.

james comey· martha stewart· fbi director· intellectual property· banter

2:07:02 Now, I believe you did this because I used to say it all the time and you also roll your eyes in one way or another every time i did it. But ever since Comey got in... It's true! You've decided that now is your property Oh no, No, that's not my property Well, that's okay like I said I'm not dissuading you Is it not communal? I just wanted let you know That I was bitching about Martha Stewart five years ago Yes All credit, all credit sir I'm just saying this so you know that i know. Well, it's interesting you bring this up and... You're the one by the way, I will give you credit for this, that noticed that Comey was a part of that. I didn't notice that when he got in. It is just beyond me that he had anything to do with Martha Stewart But yet I stole your thing? Okay no you stole the line

2:07:54 Well, I'm sorry. That's okay. It's fine! I give it to you...I give it..I give you the line freely for yours to use as you wish and which is very common thing that people will do. Every once in a while somebody says something cute and I say can I have that? Can I use that in a column? Can I have it? And they usually say yes, you can have it now its yours Comedians do this. I was about to say all comedians steal from each other so well They don't still they many times give each other the goat the joke okay sure you sure as hell? I'm just gonna beggin is it not is it not never asked me for that's the problem. I give it to you freely, okay But you never requested it and I was hoping you would have a very hurt by this Yeah, No

CHAPTER 35 / 45 Discussion

Sarbanes-Oxley Act and Browser History Indictments

The Sarbanes-Oxley Act, originally intended for corporate fraud, is being used by the FBI to prosecute individuals for deleting their digital records. Khairullozhon Matanov, an acquaintance of the Tsarnaev brothers, was sentenced to 30 months in prison for clearing his browser history. The hosts warn that "helping" the FBI can lead to entrapment and that the law is being applied broadly to digital data.

sarbanes-oxley· fbi· browser history· khairullozhon matanov· boston marathon bombing

2:08:45 Well, I will bring something up and I request your permission to speak about Sarbanes-Oxley. Okay? Do i have permission to talk about Sarbanes-Oxley? No you have that was never... Sarbanes-Oxley was your thing! It was I used the harp on it You had... But I stopped it so its like you know it's like uh... well Sarbanes Oxley is being used by the FBI To convict terrorists Yes. So the guy who was a friend of the Boston bomber, Matanov is his last name...I think he called the FBI when he noticed that they were looking for the brothers and he said, hey man I had dinner with them two days ago. Yeah, he's trying to be helpful apparently. Yeah, he was trying to be helpful but now... Not Benny but the other guy that was one of the CIA whistleblowers early on

2:09:44 about the torture program. It wasn't Benny, it was another one of them and he came out with... We had the clip. The guy is finally released from all this misery. He's the guy who had a gun pointed in his face while I was taking a shower. He says do not talk to the FBI! Yeah so Matanoff has been charged for destroying records under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act Which sounds crazy, but this is happening all the time. Apparently they figured out a way if you know that government officials or law enforcement officials are looking for digital information records and you knowingly

2:10:32 destroy them, and I'll tell you what he did in a moment. Then under this rather broad interpretation of Sarbanes-Oxley You can be sent... This guy's going to jail for 30 months And do you know what he did? Do you know his crime was? What records he destroyed? No His browser history What?! Yes sir Well i'm not an officer so don't call me sir Well, I have to ask your permission for everything else! NO Just the one thing. So he entered into a plea agreement because he faced up to 20 years. What? You're kidding me! No, no, no. Supreme Court has not answered this pressing question of how broadly federal prosecutors are allowed to use Sarbanes-Oxley in the digital age but yes for clearing your browser history which he did to remove evidence of videos that they looked at and three of them

2:11:34 That was one count in his indictment. He also threw Sarnev's backpack full of fireworks into a dumpster, which is also destroying evidence but the browser history thing is new. So Sarbanes-Oxley is your beat? Well I guess I'll have to get back on it. Get back on the beat! I feel bad now...I feel like I'm a thief Well, this is why I prefaced it with what I was about to say. You know? I didn't want to discourage you in any way. You're a stranger. Play this clip! John C. Dworak, you're a strange man. Okay. Here's a clip that has got questions like an Ask Adam. Just one more thing I wanted to say...

2:12:26 Did any of the bankers who have been involved... Any Sarbanes actually? Yeah, you know like laundering money rigging LIBOR. Oh we might want to mention that both the co-CEOs of Deutsche Bank resigned as the LIBOR scandal is coming to a head. They erased their browser history! Ha ha yeah maybe Have any those guys no some schmuck who tried to be helpful. Some schmuck who deleted his browser history. Loser Well, I guess they're telling you this reminds me the FBI doesn't want your help. And here's why to say that there is a PayPal

CHAPTER 36 / 45 Discussion

PayPal Phishing and FBI Impersonation Scams

The hosts discuss the prevalence of PayPal phishing emails and "Nigerian Prince" style scams that impersonate the FBI Director. They note that while PayPal has a dedicated address for reporting scams, the FBI makes it nearly impossible for citizens to report impersonation, reinforcing their advice to never talk to the FBI.

paypal· phishing· fbi· scams· cybercrime

2:13:05 This would have been in tech news earlier. PayPal, if you're getting bull crap messages supposedly from PayPal that are scams and phishing expeditions or whatever they are... Don't be helpful! You can take it, PayPal has a spot where you can just do a screenshot or forward it to a PayPal address I think its called scam at paypal dot com They have special place, you just send it to them. Your done boom And now they've got it they can go do whatever they want to do And you're out of the picture. If you have an FBI Nigerian scam letter, which I've gotten a couple... You probably gotten a couple. They're very funny. They're from the director of the FBI and they want you to... The FBI's got a bunch of money they wanna give me, you know, to the tune of $5 million if I give them 200 bucks or something. It's just this classic scam. Do you think the FBI would wanna put a stop to this?

2:14:00 They don't seem to give a crap about it. So what? It's like, it's impersonating an officer who has got all these illegal things... There is no address you can send this stuff to. You've gotta fill out a million forms. They gotta call ya'. They don't want your help that's all I can say. Never talk to the FBI! Don't talk to the FBI. They just they don't want you to talk to them thats the only thing I could think of Now, here I'm asking you a question about this. This is the new Snowden docs play this? Oh yes okay New documents from Edward Snowden show the NSA's warrantless spying expanded under President Obama in 2012 The Justice Department authorized the NSA to tap internet cables without a warrant to seek out foreign hackers What new documents?! I didn't see any

CHAPTER 37 / 45 Discussion

Snowden Op-Ed and iOS 8.4 Root Certificates

The hosts analyze a recent op-ed by Edward Snowden in the New York Times and reports of suspicious root certificates found in the iOS 8.4 beta. A listener identified certificates linked to the Department of Defense and the China Network Information Center. The hosts question whether these certificates allow for "man-in-the-middle" surveillance despite Apple's public stance on encryption.

edward snowden· ios 8.4· apple· root certificates· nsa· encryption

2:14:53 Yeah, where's the new? The guy has been in Russia for the last three years. Oh well... Maybe it was on that WordPress blog? That $250 million WordPress blog? Well Snowden did write... Snowden air quotes wrote an op-ed in the New York Times This guy is so multi talented and he was pretty much spiking football which I think is peculiar You know, he's saying well you know this is great. We've everyone wanted to stop the mass...the bulk collection of data Good work everybody good work to Apple for... Nothings happened No! Good work to Apple for putting in encryption and a dude named Ben and I didn't put on the tech news because i really don't know what I'm talking about One of our dudes named Ben who wishes to remain anonymous

2:15:52 says he is running iOS 8.4 beta 4 on an iPad Air 2, and he said I found a number of root certificates that he thought were interesting now if anyone has a root certificate that has access to it they can pretty much do anything they want i think you can be man in the middle with a SSL connection yeah I think you're gonna own the machine if you wanna The root certificates he's found in this beta 4 of iOS 8.4, and I may be off base, you may be off base as well... Federal Common Policy, the Government Root Certification Authority, the Chamber of Commerce root

2:16:35 Department of Defense route, China Network Information Center EV route. The Dears is not putting you on? No I'm not sure the department...I believe him to be honest. Department of Defense class 3 route Chamber of Commerce route VRKGov route and he says he's finding more and more as he digs around. It has to be on the phones too wouldn't it yeah it's iOS yeah it's it's uh the iPad and iPhone uh yeah OS so what is the Department of Defense route doing on there I don't know. Yeah, I wouldn't hold the phone too close to my ear is maybe a blow up Well we'll see what what comes back from our intelligence network on On that well That's a scandal if yeah i don't i don't know We gotta find we give we can confirm this all right it up someplace good good good Good hey then i have A couple more things oh This let me take a break you do one first okay? Even though we did one of yours okay

CHAPTER 38 / 45 Discussion

Hillary Clinton on Voting Rights and Internet Voting

Hillary Clinton's recent speeches in Texas calling for universal voter registration are interpreted by the hosts as a prelude to a push for internet voting. They express concern that online voting would be highly susceptible to corruption and lack the security of traditional paper ballots. They also debate the merits of early voting versus a single election day.

hillary clinton· voting rights· internet voting· early voting· voter suppression

2:17:34 I thought that one of the...people are misinterpreting. Clinton's got this new thing she's doing about, oh let's everyone should be automatically registered to vote. When you're born you're registered to vote in this country aren't you? You still have to go to the registrar and then put your address and stuff in. So you just can't wander in. A lot of people actually do in some spots, I mean, locally here and a little people who wander... In New Jersey you could just wander in? Yeah, I think it's with the most cases but they rarely make us big thing that Republicans don't want that. This is Clinton on voting here and I have an interpretation which nobody has thought to bring up and I'm going to bring it up

2:18:15 I'm sorry, do I need to play the clip? Yeah. Yeah. Clinton has the floor. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton has criticized Republicans for voter suppression efforts nationwide. Speaking in Texas, Clinton called for reforms to make it easier for young people and people of color to cast their ballots. Today, Republicans are systematically and deliberately trying to stop millions of American citizens from voting. What part of democracy are they afraid of? I believe every citizen has the right to vote and I believe we should do everything we can to make it easier for every citizen to vote

2:18:59 Prelude to internet voting. Ooh, ooh! Wow that would be bad That would be bad. That would be very very bad Nah it'll never happen Oh yeah If you talk to the nine out of 10 technologists, let's say you go one these... John Gray Oh they're all in on it for sure. David Madsen They're all in on that and they are very convincing. They don't have a clue about corruption or why the ballot was designed the way it was. And there are places I think in the world where they do allow online voting and for example Washington State, they don't have online voting but all voting is by mail. There are no places to go vote.

2:19:38 And I think that's just corrupt. I think it's corruption... Adam- Well, she also was talking about if I recall correctly early voting should be able to vote... John- You should have a bigger wider but internet voting solves all these problems. Adam- But I don't think but I have a problem with early voting. I don't think that's a good idea. I've never liked early voting over this just had one day where everyone votes. John- That's what we do! Adam- Well she's calling for early voting. John- Yes you know some people can get home in time who are these people? The EPA released a report which I think was miscategorized by pretty much all alternative media. Did you hear about the report? The fracking report? Yeah, the fracking report. Yeah, I have a clip

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EPA Fracking Report and Media Misinterpretation

The hosts critique media coverage of a new EPA report on hydraulic fracturing. While outlets like the New York Times reported that fracking has no "widespread effect" on water, the hosts point out that the study was limited to water volume usage and did not assess human health risks or chemical contamination. They suggest fracking is used as a cover for disposing of toxic industrial waste.

epa· fracking· water supply· hydraulic fracturing· environmental groups

2:20:25 My clip first. Go away with your clips, man! The New York Times says a report by the Environmental Protection Agency finds there is no evidence hydraulic fracturing or fracking has a widespread effect on the nation's water supply but the report does say that techniques used for oil and gas extraction have the potential to contaminate drinking water Okay now we'll play your clip The Environmental Protection Agency has concluded the drilling practice of hydraulic fracturing is mostly safe for the nation's water supply. A multiyear study says there is no evidence fracking has had systemic impacts on drinking water resources nationwide,

2:21:04 But the EPA does say fracking techniques have contaminated water in some cases and has, quote, the potential to impact drinking water resources. Environmental groups say the study overly relied on energy companies' data. Concerns over contamination have led to fracking bans in Maryland and New York." This is all a lie! This is a lie! This is not—I—gee, I did something that neither Charlie Rose or what's Drool Face? What's her name? What's her name? Amy Goodman. Amy Goodman, drool face. Drool face... Yeah! We're terrible! Yes You guys are making fun of physical characteristics I have Tourette's. I'm allowed. I've been made fun of my entire life. I'm an asshole so i can do it too There you go It's Tourette's and Asshole everybody This is a lie I read the report Gee, I'm so sorry I did that

2:22:07 All right, give it to us. Well I'm going to give it to you this report does not discuss the potential impacts of hydraulic fracturing on other water uses such as agriculture or industry other aspects of the environment seismic air quality ecosystems worker health safety or communities furthermore this report is not a human health risk assessment It does not identify populations that are exposed to chemicals estimate the extent of exposure or estimate the incidence of human health impact That is not in this study. That is not what this study is! This study is purely about the use of water

2:22:43 taking water out of areas and then using it for fracturing. And so, it specifically says there is a small number of places like in Texas where water that people can then not drink because it has taken away—it's like 1 million gallons an hour or something—that is the impact! They have nothing in this report about poisoning of the water. Nothing at all!! They didn't read the report!!! Well, they apparently read some press release. Possibly? I mean what were they reading? They didn't dream this up! Here's the line... High fracturing water use or consumption alone does not necessarily result in impacts to drinking water resources rather impacts result from the combination of water use or consumption and water availability at local scales. Okay, they misinterpreted it then. Well that's pretty- This is democracy now! Drool face!!

2:23:43 That was Charlie Rose! Yes, yes. He owns the place. He works day and night that guy So I don't you know and we all know that people can light their sinks on fire because of fracking but that's not the point that is not what the report says i'm just stunned And it turns out to be something of a misleading There are parts of the country where it's always been possible to light your sinks on fire. I know, and the way I understand it is...it's the gas traveling along with the water that can you know little bubble can pop in as not necessarily your water is completely contaminated but gases moving along with the water. None if its really great but fracking has been going on since the 50s this is not new

2:24:27 The thing that's annoying is they won't tell us about the over 1,000 chemicals they're using. That's the annoying part even though the EPA... I've always been convinced that the whole thing is a scam to ditch toxic chemicals into the... Yes. Push away, you got a bunch of toxic chemicals there's a bunch of dumps that take toxic chemicals. That's why fluoride is in our water it's... We produce a lot of toxic chemicals in this country and what are you gonna do with them? You can't throw them in the dump, you can't do this, you can't do that Mix them in as a secret ingredient. In our special secret sauce! And then pump it under there and just blow out some oil, some gas while you're at it. Yum! Leave it down there and you've done your got it done yeah Yeah I've always... It's the only thing that makes sense to me. But isn't that uh.. Why would they keep it a secret? Well isn't one of the main theories about fluoride in the water is its byproduct of aluminum production? I haven't heard that

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Sergey Lavrov on Economic Sanctions and Chinese Yuan

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov discusses how Russia is adapting to Western economic sanctions by diversifying its economy toward Asia and Latin America. He mentions the possibility of Russia issuing debt in Chinese Yuan. Lavrov references the long-standing Jackson-Vanik amendment as evidence that U.S. sanctions are rarely removed even after their original purpose expires.

sergey lavrov· russia· sanctions· chinese yuan· imf· jackson-vanik

2:25:27 It's a byproduct of something. Yeah, I'm all in on that and think that's right. All right. Okay what I have left? I have a couple things...I have Bloomberg interviewed Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov who i like because his English is just it's good you know It's high English, but he pronounces it with a funny Russian accent. So sometimes just kind of funny things Would you like to hear a sequence of Lavrov with Bloomberg? I love that! Love too Okay First we'll talk about the economic sanctions that... Now this is still warfare that we are... That WE United States are committing against Russia When you put economic sanctions on a country so they can't move and Russia now just announcing

2:26:15 They are evaluating the possibility of issuing Russian debt in Chinese Yuan, which would be interesting. It may not have a huge impact but it's a start And of course, this on the heels of the IMF still not allowing the Chinese currency into the SDR basket. Even though all other countries in IMF want it. This is the 2010 reforms that Fifi Lagarde keeps talking about that we have not ratified because the United States doesn't want China in the basket so now Russia is evaluating writing their creating their debt in Chinese currency

2:26:59 And that is part of the strategy. Here is Lavrov talking about what the sanctions have done and how they're handling them. Economic sanctions against Russia, the prevailing view is that the European Union will extend them when they meet to decide this issue. Do you see any chance of that not happening? We are not thinking about this. We are concentrating on how we must use this circumstance to diversify our economy. And we are basically thinking of working in this regime for a very long period of time, knowing how the American sanctions work—remember Jackson-Vanik? They were introduced for one reason and they were kept for three decades I believe after this reason disappeared so... So define very long time for me How long do you think these sanctions will be around

2:27:55 We're not thinking about this. on restructuring our economy and living in the circumstance when we have more partners from Latin America, from Asia than we have from Europe and from the West. And so they're proving that by issuing their debt or supposedly issuing a debt in Chinese Yuan. I like that! Like we say hey, we know you guys You know, you put the Jackson-Varnik sanctions in place which disallowed a number of Russians traveling to United States and you left it there for 30 years. So we know that this shit will not come off. We're no fools. Next FIFA What is the conventional thinking that Putin immediately stood up and said ah! This is just screw us

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Lavrov on FIFA Scandal and Greek Debt Negotiations

In an interview with Bloomberg, Sergey Lavrov comments on the FIFA corruption scandal, suggesting the timing was intended to derail Sepp Blatter's re-election and Russia's 2018 World Cup hosting. He also discusses Russia's historical ties to Greece, refusing to offer advice on whether Greece should stay in the EU, and critiquing the "American philosophy" of telling other nations what to do.

sergey lavrov· fifa· sepp blatter· greece· imf· bloomberg

2:28:47 Right? We said it first on the No Agenda Show. Well, here's what actually was said... Let me ask you about FIFA. The Russian president has said that the accusations that we've heard against FIFA are really aimed at taking down Sepp Blatter as President of FIFA and derailing Russia's hosting of the World Cup in 2018. Is that what you think this is about? Is this about targeting Russia? He said slightly different thing, he said that he cannot speak on the substance of the accusations. Things might happen but the timing of the action undertaken in Switzerland... You mean things in terms of bribery and corruption? Yes

2:29:31 He couldn't know about these accusations, and whether they are true or not it's up to the investigation and the court to decide. But what he did say was that timing of this show was certainly scheduled in a way to derail the electoral process in FIFA And I don't think that anyone thinks of targeting the World Cup in Russia, no. You don't think that? No A lot of people talk about Qatar Do you think that's what this is about? My question is do you think it has spilled milk because US didn't get the world cup? I'm thinking about World Cup and Russia not in Qatar It's not my business what happens in Qatar Well I guess Russia has more chance of hosting the World Cup than winning the World Cup That's a fair thing to say

2:30:20 Yes, I have to agree with you. But unless you try, you never know. Exactly! He should have a uniform on... What was that cornball question at the end? Oh, just be an asshole and now Lavrov is going to lay back into this guy which was just my favorite clip of Lavrov Everybody right now is talking about Greece in Western Europe Why? Is it an issue for Russia what's happening in Greece right now Well, Greeks are very long-standing spiritual cultural historical friend of Russia. We got our religion Orthodox Christianity from Byzantium and thousand years later by the way we recognized the modern Greek state so we have a very long common history and of course we wish to the Greek people

2:31:14 all the best in their talks. And your advice to the Greek people today would be stay in the European Union or not? Your advice to the Greek people would be to stay in the European Union, or not? You're contaminated by American philosophy you always want to tell people what to do. No, no, no. You don't see it as Russia's role. Do you think that Greece would be better served exiting the EU. What might be your advice to the Ukrainian people? To get to the European Union and NATO, or stay out? Well there's a lot less talk about that presumably... No no no! There is a lot less talk about Ukraine joining the European Union and joining NATO Presumably you see that as one of your successes in the past year I mean this American way of telling people what they have to do That's what I had in mind Russia has no advice for Greece It's up to the Greeks so you know to decide

2:32:08 And I wish them all the best in their negotiations with the IMF and European Central Bank, and of course with Germany and France. Mr. Foreign Minister, thank you very much for your time. Thank you! I like Lara. Here's something, I've got two clips left that I want to play well actually three

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Corinthian College Student Loan Strike

Over 1,200 students have joined a debt strike, refusing to pay back loans used to attend the for-profit Corinthian College system. The school system has been sued by the federal government for predatory lending practices. The strikers are demanding that the Department of Education cancel their debts entirely.

corinthian colleges· student loans· debt strike· predatory lending· department of education

2:32:51 I'll put the other one of them off. Let's go with this one, we're so suppressive right now in terms of protesters and trying to keep getting out of control unlike the 60s let's say but this could have legs, this is a student loan strike. Yes, hold on a second, oops sorry misfire Organizers say the nation's first student debt strike has grown. Almost 200 students here in the United States have refused to pay back loans they took out to attend schools in the for-profit Corinthian College system, which has been sued by the federal government for its predatory lending. Now more than 1,200 students have threatened to join the strike unless the Department of Education orders the cancellation of the strikers' debts. Yes. This has been going on a couple weeks I think?

2:33:50 Yeah, this particular one. We just want to make sure we put it out there so everyone knows this could be something big. I hope so! Yeah...I get the sense it won't because they're going to shut it down It's the students who always in the 60s were the students. Well these student have a bone to pick that for sure They've been screwed and sold a bill of goods and screwed Now there is another story that I wanted mention because our friend Catherine Harridge Oh, the pixie girl? Right, the pixie CIA chick. She had a report on this and this is like an item...you know she was brought in to do this and nobody picked it up nobody wanted to run with it ended up on Lou Dobbs' show who's become a tub-thumper for you know the fascist state

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Taliban Five Recruitment Failure and Catherine Harridge Report

Fox News correspondent Catherine Harridge reports that a government attempt to recruit the "Taliban Five"—detainees swapped for Bowe Bergdahl—as double agents was a "total failure." The hosts question the source of this intelligence leak and why the story is being released now, noting the men were high-value targets during their 12 years at Guantanamo.

taliban five· catherine harridge· bowe bergdahl· guantanamo bay· cia

2:34:40 And it's just a story that has no legs. We're never going to hear about again, I thought I'd mention it because it was put out there for a reason and I'm not sure what the reason was but we're never gonna find out I'm sure But this is the Taliban 5 story Fox News has learned that a government attempt to recruit five former Guantanamo detainees The Taliban Five as double agents Was in one official words A total failure Why do even know about know about this. Fox News Chief Intelligence Correspondent Catherine Harridge with our report. The men who were swapped for Sergeant Bo Bergdahl in May 2014 are former Taliban commanders. The option to flip them was pursued to strengthen the Obama administration's ability to prevent them from returning to terrorism, but the effort was described by a source familiar with the strategy as a quote total failure.

2:35:43 little. Even as a general matter, this is an intelligence matter that I won't be able to discuss from here." The Taliban five were held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camps for 12 years where these military reviews concluded they were bad actors and had quote high intelligence value For those reasons, seasoned military officers believe the Taliban Five were obvious recruitment targets. We would definitely have tried to work that with these people because of who they are Well this is isn't this well I don't want to take your line i'm afraid to say anything for you be stealing your lines go ahead You can steal my lines wasn't this only the one line? You keep generalizing you keep generalizing shouldn't generalize but let's ask a couple questions of you

2:36:28 One, they start off with this is like some intelligence you know an intelligence source. Sources all the sources have told them that this was a utter failure and all the rest they go to Jake well or not Jake but whoever it is Josh Ernst we can't talk about because there's an intelligence thing Is this? Is this an example of some intelligence Guy spilling the beans illegally against whatever he did rules He signed up for he can't talk to anybody about this stuff, but yet Katherine Harridge gets it somehow Why don't they go find that guy and arrest him and throw him in the slammer as a traitor? Well they might do that if the story gets legs But even a snappy name like The Taliban 5 is not working no hmm

2:37:13 But wasn't one of those guys that's... Source familiar with the strategy. Yeah, wasn't one of those Taliban guys? The big drug guy they needed? We were the only ones who ever pointed this out I have one. I've already took over you Dave Brime in the case We got to get kicked out of there, and he's somebody that knows what they're doing Yeah You know even the name Taliban doesn't register anymore now Taliban five is no good Sounds like an Eden blighting book Doesn't flow well whoo sorry and when they were released they were never called the Taliban five this just made up recently Well it's pixie girl she doesn't always win

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Gloria Steinem and Miss Piggy's Feminism Award

The hosts mock the decision to grant a feminism award to the Muppet character Miss Piggy. They review a clip of Gloria Steinem interviewing Miss Piggy on MSNBC, where the puppet claims to be "pro-everything." The hosts criticize the branding of feminism and the absurdity of using a fictional pig as a representative for women's rights.

gloria steinem· miss piggy· feminism· msnbc· anita bryant

2:37:54 And I think she's, I think she got the short stick or something because she's on Fox. Yeah. Some of these other women are NBC news. She messed it up don't you remember? She messed something up a couple years ago. She blew it. Right. She blew something. Gloria Steinem Who I wrote... Was Gloria Steinem, was she the Florida orange juice lady? No! That was someone else. Gloria Steinem's the one who started in you know she's an early feminist Yes but wasn't she originally the spokeswoman for... Who is that? Now I can think of who that name is if you just give me a minute Uh no that was some that was a bathing beauty Okay But Gloria Steinem was a feminist from the get-go Right

2:38:40 Well, there were feminist awards given out recently. And I do not know who they chose as their public relations company to come up with a strategy for feminism and you know to all things women. Someone messed it up in multiple ways one Gloria Steinem winds up on MSNBC. I mean that's not the place you want to go too for anyone to be watching you Anita Bryant. Thank you. So Gloria Steinem, and she is on with Miss Diaz Ballart who I did not know previously. She's a young kind of multi-culti girl of the future as you would call it and you'll never guess who received a feminism award this year?

2:39:30 Uh, let me think. Caitlyn Jenner? No, no, Caitlyn's winning an award at the ESPYs which is another outrage but no. This is an outrage! Miss Piggy received a feminism award and so they had a little Q&A which I've spliced together for you. I sat down with miss piggy and fellow feminist icon Gloria Steinem what's the definition of feminism to you Oh, well I think you're looking at it. Are you pro-choice? I am pro...I'm pro everything! She totally understands that you can bat your eyelashes and also do karate People think being a feminist is maybe being male imitative

2:40:13 And it's not, it's being totally human. Or pig! Why not Ms Piggy? I could but you know what...I've spent so much money marketing myself as Ms Piggy that I think would be an unwise investment Please next time you kidding me Next time please hire the curry Dvorak consulting group Frank Oz or somebody who does the voice not even a female voice it was so that was bad. That was Ridiculous yes, that's like clip of the day though I'll give you that I tried I tried but There we go okey-dokey

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Episode 728 Outro and "In the Morning" Theme

The hosts conclude Episode 728, reminding listeners of the show's schedule and donation website. They sign off from their respective locations in Austin and Silicon Valley. The episode ends with a musical montage featuring show catchphrases, listener-submitted remixes, and the "In the Morning" theme song.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· outro· theme song

2:40:56 I would say that's it. I think that's it for today Thanks, John. I'm sorry Do I have your permission to use the Martha Stewart line going forward? No, you see again. You're acting like a baby A child Just a child It's a baby The damn baby I tell ya I already gave you...I gave you the whole bit it is now your property If I use it you can call me out Okay You gave that to me why are YOU using it Yes See thats the opposite of it Got it I got it! Thank you very much Alright everybody, please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA We will be back on Thursday with another program full of deconstruction stuff that makes you go... Hey! That's a scam! Here in FEMA Region 6 the capital of the drone star state In the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where our weather sucks I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here On NO Agenda Alright Judge number one Manny Pacquiao Austin please

2:42:11 If you were given 30 seconds to deliver a message to a global terrorist, what would you say? We need to kill them. We need to kill them! We need to bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again in the US. Yes, the beaches are back open! Woohoo! Yeah! Get up in the morning, hit the ground It's a media assassination Pick up the pieces and tear them apart Send it on to every nation The one act, the one who showed up Let the puppets roll the show

2:43:13 No more lane stream, pull me out the blue wings Tell me where I should go It's a mini crackpot, tiny bit of buzzkill It hits you right in the mouth I wanna do it now In the morning I wanna do it now In the morning There's nothing better when it's In the morning Watching a puppet show from up on the hilltops As the world reverts back, back Same old history that's switched off the TV Tune in and watch it with Sky High Tiny Dibbles can reach you right in the mouth I wanna do it now There's nothing better when its in the morning I wanna do it now In the morning I wanna do it now Theres nothin' better in the morning

2:44:32 In the morning I wanna do it now, in the morning There's nothing better when it's in the morning I wanna do it now, in the morning There's nothin' to it now, in the morning I know just In the morning In the morning Ice is ice baby Ice is ice baby and her head is gone.