Episode 722 · Sunday, 17 May 2015

Moral Debt

A technical deep dive into airline hacking claims and Amtrak sabotage theories sits alongside a breakdown of Clinton Foundation scandals and Macedonian pipeline geopolitics.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 43m listen | 36 chapters
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About this episode

The FBI is investigating claims that security specialist Chris Roberts hacked a Boeing 737 thrust management system through an in-flight entertainment port. While the Bureau issued a search warrant following Roberts' alleged lateral movement commands, technical experts remain skeptical that seat-back connections can override engine controls. Meanwhile, the NTSB and FBI are analyzing a circular windshield fracture on Amtrak 188 to determine if a projectile caused the fatal Philadelphia derailment.

In international developments, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland visited Moscow as reports of corruption surfaced against Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. Geopolitical tensions are rising in Macedonia, where the Turkish Stream pipeline project faces potential disruption from a suspected color revolution. In the Middle East, Delta Force commandos killed ISIS leader Abu Sayyaf in a Syrian ground raid, capturing his wife Umm Sayyaf and a significant cache of intelligence documents. Former CIA Director Mike Morell warned that these safe havens remain a launchpad for future domestic attacks.

ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos issued an apology for failing to disclose $75,000 in donations to the Clinton Global Foundation. On the domestic front, the FAA released restrictive drone regulations requiring line-of-sight operation, effectively grounding Amazon Prime Air. The episode also features a look at the Dayton Hamvention amateur radio culture and a critique of the distinctive vocal fry found in recent McDonald's sirloin burger commercials.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Southwest Airlines Peanut Etiquette and Backpack Complaints

A discussion regarding air travel experiences focuses on the "Peanut Express" and the specific etiquette of eating peanuts on flights. Observations include the annoying habits of passengers who shake peanuts in their fists and the dangers of peanut allergies on planes. Additional complaints are directed at passengers carrying oversized backpacks and wide roller bags that obstruct aisles.

southwest airlines· peanut allergies· travel etiquette· backpacks· roller bags

00:00 Hey, hey how you doing? Adam Curry. John C. DeVorah. It's Sunday May 17th 2015 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 722! This is no agenda Fighting the unglamorous war against the new world order and broadcasting live from the crackpot condo in FEMA region 6 in the capital of drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I am back on the peanut express, I'm John C. DeVorek It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! That refers to the Southwest flight Oh, the peanut express... oh, you came back from up north

00:41 The up north the terror of tower. There's a hill you're back at the Hill of Terror You're back in there I've got a couple more complaints. I forgot you know, I've been main Wanting to mention this for some time okay? Yeah give peanuts out it some of these flights yeah Which is probably endangering someone but I've had many flights where they say sorry no peanuts on this flight because we have someone with severe allergies And you don't get peanuts well that's good Do you ever sit there with... There's this habit some people have, which is incredibly annoying. It's the peanut eaters that take and they... Wait a minute! Is this about peanut eating etiquette now? Yeah. Okay. All right I'm good. All right roll it on. You're going to agree with this. You'll see how you've seen this before. I'm worried that I might be one of those people. Really hope not.

01:36 So they take, you know... You got a bag. A little bitty dinky bag of peanuts is not enough to do anything. It's about 17 peanuts in it. Dump the penis in your mouth and you're good to go! No no that's not the way I work with some of these guys They have to dump the peanuts in their right hand They dump like a palm full of penis or at least half the bag goes into their hands Then make a fist Yeah then they shake You are describing my old man, by the way. To a tee. He's a dirty peanut eater. They shake their fist and then they create a small opening at the thumb end of the fist and try to shoot a couple of peanuts into their mouths This is completely the wrong way to eat peanuts

02:25 Well, for one thing it gets peanut grease all over your hand which is not necessarily good and salt. But they shake, shake, shake until they're chewing and shaking, chewing and shaking, chewing and shaking then they throw a couple more peanuts in their mouth and chew some more while shaking and shaking. That just is annoying. It's the most annoying thing I've ever seen." And then when they're done, they got down to their peanuts and then they start doing this thing with their hands to get all of that salt and grease off their hands. They're slapping themselves! Okay... John? This is exactly how my father eats peanuts. This is very unusual. No it isn't. What is the correct way to eat peanuts in a plane?

03:09 There's a lot of ways. You can take the peanut bag and just, if you like tossing the peanuts back, toss from the bag. I always ask the flight attendant to feed me. Yeah well they rarely do that. I gave up on that idea. Okay... Meanwhile, of course on this flight, I should mention this, probably a dozen idiots Or coming down the aisle with this huge backpack. Ah, your favorite yes! The huge backpack phenomenon. They're bumping left and right they're slamming... That and the guy who's got the too wide of a roller bag And he has to instead of picking it up like you should like a normal person He has to roll it so he's dragging the rollerbag banging into things You can't get in these backing up and going forward because the bag is always hitting one of the seats Oh

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Chris Roberts FBI Search Warrant and In-Flight Hacking Claims

The FBI issued a search warrant for security specialist Chris Roberts following claims that he tampered with airplane thrust management systems via the in-flight entertainment (IFE) port. Technical skepticism is raised regarding the "climb command" mentioned in the warrant, as experts argue that a passenger seat connection cannot realistically control engine thrust or cause lateral movement. The validity of the FBI's technical understanding of Boeing 737 systems is questioned.

chris roberts· fbi· boeing 737· in-flight entertainment· hacking

04:04 And this was an old 737. Did someone swing around and hit you in the face with their bag as usual? No, but I almost had it... Well we might as well just go into our first news story then with all of this. All aboard trains good planes bad! Yeah this is about the security specialist He was apprehended, I guess a couple of weeks ago for tampering with the in-flight entertainment system and tweeting about it. And the FBI released a warrant which was published which is a search warrant to search his stuff that they confiscated and they confiscated drives and USB sticks and... ...and his laptop and iPad and all this stuff. In this warrant

05:03 The FBI special agent claims that... What's the name of this guy? This guy's name is what, Chris Roberts I think. That his name? This has been really overhyped by Wired and a number of other of these all in military industrial complex blogs. The FBI agent says that this guy Chris Roberts got into the or was able to issue a CLM or CLB a climb command to the thrust management system, which made one engine climb and the airplane then flew sideways. How does one engine climb? You mean they turned... Well thank you just stop right there yes thank you um any

05:50 Any blog you see writing this verbatim, and it is word for word from the warrant saying that he increased thrust on one engine and therefore the aircraft by issuing a climb command. Climb command? Yeah. Now... Last time I heard of climb command was at that rock climbing center This is bullshit of the highest order! The highest order First of all, if he was indeed able to get into the thrust management system that would have been the thrust management system of the engine itself could only be a Pratt & Whitney not a Rolls-Royce engine. They function differently The climb command if the engine is issued a climb command That means it's going to 90% thrust for a climb out from the aerodrome up to 10,000 feet

06:41 So I don't know where he did this, if he did this you know at 10,000 or 30,000 feet. This would have been a very noticeable thing to the flight crew and climbing is not just about power it's about power an attitude of the aircraft and trim so if you have your trim set in a certain attitude you could actually start to decelerate very quickly to the ground. You do not issue a climb command to an engine But I'm going to call it complete utter bullshit. You said that a minute ago, you can stop me. Uh, I don't think you need the shout it well just because you were stopping in a, uh, your, your, um, your, I'm sure trying to get some facts here was this in some sort of a

07:25 Who said this? This is according to the FBI warrant. Oh, so this was in the warrant itself... In the warrant itself yes Now you have read the warrant I hope! I've read the warrant and have a copy of it And it says that?! I shall read from you After removing the cover to the SEB, and he was in first class which makes him even a bigger douchebag that was installed under the passenger front seat of... front of his seat, he would use a Cat6 Ethernet cable with a modified connector to connect this laptop to the in-flight entertainment system while in flight. The then—this is from The Warrant I'm just reading it verbatim— He then connected two other systems on the airplane network after exploited slashed gained access to or quote hacked the IFE system that's In Flight Entertainment System. Woo! And for free movies

08:14 He stated then that he overwrote code on the airplane's thrust management computer And there is no thrust management computer. There is a FADEC, a fully authorized digital engine control but okay we'll call it thrust management computer while aboard a flight He stated that he successfully commanded the system he had access to issue the CLB or climb command He stated that he thereby caused one of the airplane engines to climb Wow! An engine climbed by itself resulting in a lateral or sideways movement of the plane during one of these flights He also stated he used Vortex software for compromising, slash exploiting or hacking the airplane networks. He stated! He stated. They use that word twice? Yes What if the guy's just full of crap?! But he is full of crap! And the FBI is just dumb Correct on both counts Mr. Dvorak very good and if this actually...if you really did this This guy should be in jail In jail!! I do not believe it's possible I don't think that this could happen

09:19 But for this to be written up this way? Well, I would have to assume and this is where i'll have to take you on on this. Okay That your completely wrong the FBI's completely right because obviously The FBI would've gone immediately To the Boeing engineers Yes And said change this Call them up John Maxwell Or gone there to wherever they are. Adam Pate I did look for...I looked for FAA airworthiness directives, made sure there was nothing there now... John Maxwell And I would have done that in all my due diligence before issuing a warrant unless this is a bogus warrant that you've been suckered by hoax? Adam Pate No this is a real warrant John. Now something else could be going on here

10:04 And regardless, for this guy to be sitting in first class tweeting out, hey you know shall I drop the...shall i issue a command to drop passenger oxygen masks? Which I also don't think he can do. He had access to the aircrew and cabin messaging system which only sends messages to the cockpit and to the flight management in the cockpit So he could have maybe issued a command that would have made it look like something had deployed. But I think maybe something else is going on here, and i'll give him the benefit of the doubt even though if you're an information security guy lying is not okay and doing this kind of stuff with 100 other passengers is also not okay so either way the guy's a dick

10:54 But it's possible that the FBI misunderstood... I'm just going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Misunderstood what he was saying, that he was able to replicate this in a simulator and that he made the simulator fly sideways because there is talk throughout The Warrant that he did simulations but it's not the way The Warrant has written and I can tell you right now I do not believe this is possible And if it is, ground every single aircraft that has this type of system. It's just not how aircraft systems are built or if it didn't happen at all. This is completely bogus I don't even know who this guy is Chris Roberts. I'm glad you got all worked up about it A little bit worked up? I think that again... Well the thing I get worked up in

11:49 Either should have talked to Boeing about is this even possible? I think, I guess it was a Boeing jet. Not sure did you say I don't remember. 737 I believe okay little 737 there is no first class generally on those things but sure there is Well let me see seats well he wasn't cramped He wasn't 2a yeah, that'd be first-class if there wasn't first class when I used to think 737 I think only people fly them or Southwest That's the people's airline. There's no first class peanuts anybody or would you rather have pretzels? I tell them I like to have now shut up about your peanuts I'm talking about say they said they come around I said like two nuts stop just stop. They do just stop

12:35 Anyway, I want everyone to know who is a Noah Jenner producer that this and it's Ars Technica. Everybody's all over this and then repeating the line he issued a climb command in the aircraft flight started to fly sideways you know when you're at cruising altitude you could be 55% power, depending on if you have a tailwind or headwind. If all of the sudden...if you really can make an engine go to 90%, if the engine will even respond which I also highly doubt! I really doubt that if he was in some kind of subsystem that the FADEC would not allow that to happen. That's why it is fully authorized

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Amtrak 188 Derailment and FBI Projectile Investigation

Investigators are examining whether a projectile hit Amtrak train 188 in Philadelphia shortly before it derailed, killing eight people. The FBI is assisting the NTSB to analyze a circular break in the windshield, following reports that two other local trains were struck by rocks or gunfire in the same area. The engineer, Brandon Bostian, reportedly suffered a concussion and cannot recall the events leading to the over-speed crash.

amtrak 188· ntsb· fbi· philadelphia· train crash

13:18 Then this would could be very disastrous for one engine to go to 90%. Flat spin. Yeah, no How do you get out of a spin John? Steer into it opposite rudder always remember that steer into an opposite rudder exactly Well, there was another thing you're doing planes good and planes bad. Trains bad or whatever. There's the derailment stories getting kind of fishy It is this clip from you Yeah, this derailment story. Railroad authorities today ordered Amtrak to immediately improve safety on the Northeast Corridor. Experts say a better signal system might have prevented this week's crash that killed eight and injured more than 200. Brian Yennis has the latest down the investigation including evidence that rocks or other objects hit that train before the crash The FBI is now analyzing the lower left side of Amtrak 188 Stop stop stop

14:20 Why is it the FBI and not NTSB? This isn't an NTSB jurisdiction. They should at least be working in tandem or... But they think there's some criminality involved, that's what's happening because somebody took a shot at the thing through a rocket boulder. Listen to the rest of the clip for me. It's there that investigators have found a circular break in the window that could be the result of a flying object thrown or shot at the train moments before it crashed on Tuesday night, about 9.21 p.m.. NTSB investigators say an assistant conductor onboard the train recalls hearing a radio conversation moments before the crash between the engineer and nearby engineer of local SEPTA train acknowledging they were both hit by an object

15:07 She said she heard the engineer talking to a SEPTA engineer. She recalled that the SEPTA engineer had reported to the train dispatcher that he had either been hit by rock or shot at If true, it would mean three trains were hit by an object in the area of the crash within a 20 minute span. The front windshield of that SEPTA 729 local train was hit around 910 forcing the train into an emergency stop just minutes after that passenger Madison Calver witnessed a projectile hit his passenger window on a southbound Amtrak Acela 2173 I was working on my laptop i was just following up with a couple emails and all of a sudden

15:49 crash right by left i quickly turned didn't see what hit it but saw that you know right to my left everything had been destroyed um you know enough so that the damage was in radius bigger than the size of a basketball The new revelation expands this investigation. Could an object have somehow affected the engineer Brandon Bostian moments before the crash? The NTSB says Bostion was extremely cooperative in his interview Friday, but he suffered a concussion and could not recall anything that happened during the derailment. So we're now to believe the rock went through the window... How can you say that? ...and then hit the guy in the head and then fell on the knob to accelerate the train And he doesn't remember a thing

16:30 Right Wow yeah, yeah well now they had a bunch of not know how about this shit happens There's one you don't go 106 miles an hour in a 50 mile an hour zone if you're running up driving a train Shit happens. Well it happened to his head so he can remember thing oh Yeah, I don't have anything. I don't get was I think the FBI is going to see if they can turn into a terrorism case Oh They'd love to yeah of course drop the ball on this one They could have called it terrorism from the get-go and they would say you know The terrorists are throwing rocks at trains as be there I Don't think I know grown domestic rock throwing terrorist. I'm going to agree with you that

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Chris Matthews on Amtrak Funding and Republican Districts

MSNBC host Chris Matthews criticized Republican congressional districts for a lack of support for Amtrak funding. Matthews claimed that because many Republican representatives come from districts where residents do not use the train, they treat the rail system with the same disregard as immigration reform.

chris matthews· msnbc· amtrak· republicans· infrastructure

17:12 that this was not a setup and whatever happened they're desperately trying to find anything but more because this story about the rock I read the day it happened just now and now it's being picked up so... yeah. I do love how it's being politicized, this was a good clip from our friend Chris Matthews over there at MSNBC. When you talk about uniting the country that is a beautiful idea and we all love that idea but we have a situation right now where there are 180 congressional districts where nobody takes the train ever not Amtrak and two-thirds of those are represented by Republicans, and they don't care about us I mean it makes me sad to hear about it. They treat trains like Hispanics

17:56 We don't have enough in our district to worry about it. Exactly, so we don't care about immigration reform? By the way, train rides are... I used to say that Ted Kennedy could beat Jimmy Carter anywhere on the Amtrak route because it is more liberal. Anyway thank you why do I think of these things? Why do I think of these things um because you're a douchebag? Borderline clip of the day yeah It's just offbeat but of course it reveals the fact that you've gone back! I know, I know well I've looked as you know what I started watching Greta Van Susteren Oh, she's on Fox. On the Foxes network yes and I actually picked up two dynamite well yeah I think dynamite clips Dynamite Clips wait a minute let me get this Dynamite Clips and Greta Van Susteren do not match Well this is my mistake as well I thought what can be going on with Greta Van Susteren

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Jeh Johnson and DHS Strategy Against Lone Wolf Terrorism

DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson and FBI Director James Comey held a video conference with 1,000 police chiefs to discuss the evolving threat of "independent actors" or lone wolf terrorists. Johnson emphasized that local law enforcement is the front line of defense against ISIS-inspired individuals who radicalize online without direct overseas training. The discussion highlights the difficulty of detecting domestic threats before they act.

jeh johnson· dhs· fbi· isis· lone wolf

18:51 But because of Fox's ratings, all the big guns liked to at least go on there and get a little say. And she went to hang out with Jeh Johnson... Some call him Jeh. We call him Jeh. Jeh Johnson. It is Jeh. J-E-H as well so how else should you pronounce it? Jeh Johnson. And Jeh was at the... we had the big policeman's memorial for all the, I think this was in New York, for all the fallen heroes. And Greta was right there talking to Juh and of course you know when you're talking about police what do you gotta talk about? ISIS obviously!

19:39 the other issue of isis in this country because our front line of defense for ISIS many times is the police officer or law enforcement they're the ones who are called out to fight, or the FBI or any law enforcement. That's becoming more and more the case given how the global terrorist threat has evolved. It just evolving more and more the case John it seems they're all over the place. What do you say to them? Be vigilant be aware This sounds very nefarious.

20:28 where the FBI is now showing local law enforcement what they see. Just because they might see something, they think they see something and of course they don't really this propagates fear and over-vigilance throughout all communities. So our intelligence unit in DHS spends a lot with state and local law enforcement, police chiefs, sheriffs. Director Comey and I had a video teleconference with 1,000 police chiefs and sheriff's across the country last week to share with them the picture that we're seeing. We think that is more important What about the other day you were talking about the lone wolf. I mean, how did the police even begin to fight that lone wolf? And then you factor in the internet where you have people who... Lone wolves are on the internet! ...the unthinkable they become recruited for ISIS and they want to act alone here in the United States How do you possibly fight against that?

21:19 It very definitely presents a more challenging picture because he's got a lot of pictures and he's showing pictures and he wants everyone to see the picture. It's a challenging picture, you know? They bring this this issue up over and over again. What does it take You know, if Viacom can stop all... you know somebody shows a two-second clip or has a background song on it of it. You have your baby and you're playing the radio and some deleted YouTube account deleted yes some little music is playing that's they cut out of YouTubes get rid of it yeah you know it's been deleted

21:56 But they can't do anything about all these ISIS recruitment videos. They're all in English, apparently and they can't get rid of any of them? Does this sound like a little bull crap to you?" Oh it gets better! "...the prospect of an independent actor who is not recruited overseas..." I'm sorry he's now moved from a lone wolf... did you hear the new term?! independent actor. We've heard this before, oh I hadn't heard it, didn't realize it. It very definitely presents a more challenging picture because of the prospect of an independent actor who is not recruited overseas, not trained overseas doesn't accept orders overseas and comes to this country

22:37 We have systems in place to... What does the guy do? He doesn't accept orders overseas. Hey, I'd like to buy a duffel bag! Hey, I'm not buying taking any orders overseas. I'll take them from your local only. It's too much expense to mail this stuff. Hey man you got any armbands you can ship overseas Not taking any orders. commit an act of violence on their own, that's much harder to detect. And what I've been saying is that very often the cop on the beat may be the first one to actually find out about a potential terrorist attack. ISIS! We will follow them!

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Mike Morell on ISIS 9/11 Style Attack Threats

Former Acting CIA Director Mike Morell warned that ISIS could eventually conduct a 9/11-style attack on the United States if they maintain safe havens in Iraq and Syria. Morell noted two primary threats: the radicalization of Americans, as seen in Garland, Texas, and the potential for trained individuals to return from the Middle East to conduct operations.

mike morell· cia· isis· al-qaeda· national security

23:39 Now, Greta had Mike Morrell on. Former acting director of CIA because the... He's getting on a lot of shows! He has book out written by the agency Course it's written by the agency. Yeah, you even see that says with whatever Brian Hill or whoever the guys name is someone else wrote from the agency and The same question was posed ISIS in America so Isis as a group it not here right now I suppose two threats here One is the ability to radicalize young men and women here We've seen that in a number of cases we've seen them actually act out in Texas last week The other is the ability to direct

24:19 lone individuals, probably people who went to Iraq and Syria to come back and conduct acts. So that's what ISIS can do today Greta but if we don't stay focused on these guys if we allow them to maintain safe haven in Iraq and Syria then in time they are going to be able to come here and conduct a 9-11 style attack. We have to stay focused on this group just as like we have to stay focused on Al Qaeda I'm afraid, im so afraid. 9-11 style attack How can they do that? Don't we have everything all locked down or are they going to hijack the in flight entertainment system? Well we got the NSA listing it on everything how can this even be possible

24:59 That's the first question if I was a grid, I'd ask him. Well, great say well you know the NSA is listing on everything we're in a complete surveillance state were on lockdown for all practical purposes with see something say something how is this even possible? Nothing can get through. Citizens are vigilant police forces vigilance and we have NSA everywhere it should not be possible but John this is where things changed We have Barbara Starr Are you familiar with Barbara Starr? Barbara, Barbara Starr stripper. She's a stripper and she used to work Vegas and now she's in Atlanta Now she's at the Pentagon Oh, yeah, sorry. Yeah, Barbara star is the CNN Pentagon Correspondent and they had this piece that I was prepping last night And this piece came on it was mind-boggling about the ISIS using the web as a terror weapon

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

DARPA Memex Search Engine and the Dark Web

DARPA is developing a specialized search engine called Memex to map the "Dark Web" and track ISIS recruitment and human trafficking. Unlike Google, Memex is designed to index hidden services and Tor-based websites to identify patterns of criminal activity. While the Pentagon promotes it as a tool for national security, critics suggest it may eventually become a public-facing utility or be acquired by major tech firms.

darpa· memex· dark web· tor· isis

25:56 Are you ready for it? I don't want you to get too scared once you hear this. Should i sit down? You should probably close a web browser because ICE is going to pop right out and kill ya! with the hand come right out of the machine. That's what it feels like! ISIS, still undefeated after months of bombing has entered a new phase using the cyber world as a weapon The recent ISIS inspired attack in Garland Texas was carried out after gunman Elton Simpson publicly posted this tweet on the internet using the hashtag Texas Attack Now, new online threats are forcing the Pentagon to confront a secret internet most of us never see.

26:39 In a place most of us have never been. Now, are you ready to go on a voyage to a place where most of us have never been on the web? You will hear an expert from the Rand Corporation telling you exactly what it all looks like on The Deep Dark Secret Web. The dark or deep web. The US believes ISIS and others are now using the most covert part of the online world to recruit fighters, share intelligence and potentially plan real-world attacks. Think of the entire... Notice she has the Caliphate number one song playing in the background?

27:21 I think what she's talking about is Google Mail, but that's another story Think of the entire internet as an iceberg Everything above the water is what we would call the surface web or what can be indexed by Google But below the water that I love what she this is a woman from the Rand Corporation She says everything that is the surface web is indexed by Google. Listen carefully to what she's saying, these are very important data points. Is what we would call the surface web or what can be indexed by Google but below the water that huge iceberg... That's the deep web! That's the part of the Web that's not indexed there's so much of the Web that we can't just google for it Are you familiar with all that iceberg under the water?

28:09 Giant iceberg. Making it tough to crack, but researchers are finding portals to get inside. Portals? Oh! I hope they found my portal! It's a website on the darknet One of the references to the website A few of the references to the website was that it is an ISIS funding website Pentagon scientists plan to go in and chase ISIS down Nooo! They're going into the dark web! Yeah yeah I gotta stop you messin' It's questions are needed Because there's somebody apparently at their networks not asking these questions, but I'll ask him. Yeah, please they're going into the dark web They're ferret these guys out Why don't they it was not am I wrong or when? I say that YouTube for example is not in the dark web is right out There on the open and they've got all these Isis videos on there and they can't get rid of those

28:59 No, make any sense that they could go into the dark web and then ferret these guys out They can't even get rid of a YouTube video. That is searchable Well, you know why Barbara Starr's not asking the question She's a stripper might as well be the gun scientists plan to go in and chase Isis down You just imagine guys gonna okay? I'm ready digitize me suck me in FTP me to the dark web side We need a technology to discover where that content is and make it available for analysis. That military technology... Analysis? Oh, we gotta look at the- Hey! Look at this they're using the WordPress blog software there because WordPress blog software let's analyze it. Enhance zoom rotate. Analysis. That military technology known as Memex XMemex

29:55 I just heard this. Memex? Have you ever heard of this military cyber technology? That or she's had a... it just says that memex for no apparent... memex for no apparent... Mem-mem-memex, memex yeah here it is. Memex, see I found it right away. Memex Mimics. You look up mimics and I'll... I will... M-E-M, E-X I'm guessing? Ehh..I think it's M-E-M.... I don't know. Mimics. It's a unique search engine seeing patterns of activity on the dark web Wait a minute wait let me roll that back now i'm confused as to what she is saying A unique search engine? Yeah let me see Analysis

30:32 That military technology known as mimics acts as a unique search engine seeing patterns of activity on the dark web and websites Not available via traditional routes like Google or Bing hold on a second Search engine for the dark web Can we get access to this so we can finally find some child of the boffins it says who are the boffins oh The Buffins! DARPA. What is this? Now wait a minute, isn't DARPA... didn't we have a clip a couple weeks ago or a couple shows ago of this guy promoting one of these boneheads promoting let's setting up a new research and development operation in the Defense Department never mentioning DARPA already existing

31:19 Who was that sounds like a bunch of malarkey? Well, I like it search engine way. What's it both we're creating a new search engine memex which is already done apparently seems like it's the memex was Developed a long time ago. It's been I'm reading about read about you read about engine seeing patterns of activity on the dark web and websites Not available via traditional routes like Google or Bing mimics allows me to characterize How many websites there are and then what kind of contents on them hiding on the web has become easier writing like toys? Hiding on the Web

31:57 She's a stripper. You just come in from Saudi Arabia? No, she came in from Reseda where all the strippers come from. That's where they come from. Memex allows you to characterize how many websites there are and then what kind of content is on them hiding on the web has been here with tools like... You're so right! Hiding What does that? Hiding, hiding. Straight from Reseda Here she is Raven Give it up And then what kind of content is on them hiding on the web has become easier with tools like tour Tools like tour to not hiding in on the web and well, I think this is promoting Morons to go on tour. Oh sir that bounces communications around the world Keeping anyone from knowing what sites you visit and where you are located basically making you invisible

32:54 You can use Tor either to go to normal websites. uh... like cnn dot com for was not a normal website honey that's the way when she talking about and she said well she could use you be what do you can be doing with poor and cnn what is the most important thing to go to a tour browser i guess yes he says you can go to a normal website like cnn dot com this beyond any old browser and we're going out of the store but so it doesn't make sense because there are anywhere you were located basically making u invisible

33:33 You can use Tor either to go to normal websites, like cnn.com or to go to what's called special hidden services. An ISIS militant could be in Texas but a message is routed to Paris, to Istanbul and then finally the Syria making it difficult... That's the way the internet works! It's the way it works anyway. It's bouncing all over the place. John, just 15 more seconds let's get to the end. Making it difficult to track users... Young people are posting about ISIS related topics? Memics will start by tracking the places where ISIS is active online a difficult hunt through uncharted territory where terrorists have been lurking far too long Here here's what I see

34:21 Well, before you go on to your analysis I will have to be...I think in my report on the Mimics DARPA's search engine for the dark web. It's kind of a site search that I don't see is any different than Google where you go search terms site colon website name kind of thing it seems like the same thing to me What I'll teach you this does anything. I believe it's its own kind of they got okay They got a crawler across a couple crawlers crawlers like crawling crawler Crawlers, they get a couple of crawlers that they target some sites with and crawl away I mean You can do that yourself with the but if you get the name of this site If you don't have the name of the site, I don't see how this thing is any better than anything else? I can tell you what's going on here This is promoting a new search engine That will be just like

35:12 many others will eventually become a big public-facing utility. In fact, here is Chris White, DARPA Program Manager. We're envisioning a new paradigm for search that would tailor index content search results and interface tools to be to individual users and specific subject areas and not the other way around By inventing better methods for interacting with and sharing information, we want to improve search for everybody and individualize access to information. These guys are trying to compete with Google! And they're pre-promoting it in this manner... I think. No, I'm not going to argue that theories might be the case but these things always end up getting bought by Google. And then they just go away.

36:00 I don't see that this is anything special. They claim in this one article, that some guy...I don't know how they did it, just tossed us off on September 2014 says sex trafficker Benjamin Gaston was sentenced to a minimum of 50 years in prison having been found guilty of sex trafficking as well as kidnapping criminal sexual act rape assault and sex abuse all in the first degree American Scientific American reports that mimics was in the thick of it with this quote from the magazine. A key weapon in the prosecutor's arsenal, according to the NYDA's office an experimental set of internet search tools the U.S Department of Defense is developing to catch and lock up human traffickers! Nice. That's nonsense. Well we gotta be very vigilant of ISIS

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

US Special Operations Raid Killing Abu Sayyaf in Syria

U.S. Delta Force commandos conducted a rare ground raid in eastern Syria, killing ISIS senior leader Abu Sayyaf and capturing his wife, Umm Sayyaf. Defense Secretary Ash Carter confirmed the operation, which targeted the head of ISIS oil and financial operations. The raid resulted in the recovery of a "treasure trove" of intelligence, including laptops and documents, and the rescue of a Yazidi woman held as a slave.

abu sayyaf· delta force· syria· isis· ash carter

36:50 Well, you know of course we had the... Using the web as a terror weapon. The kill if you're done with it or you have your finisher analysis and then well I'm done. No that's my analysis. They killed these guys they just killed them big news i think and they killed some hotshot that counted the bookkeeper for ISIS was gunned down. The CFO? Yeah, the CFO for ISIS was gunned down by one of our top teams with top men. And I picked up a bunch of different clips because this just happened last night or this got reported and so I got different clips from different news agencies but I realized that the best one because it seems to be government packaged are the local news reports that have a package hooked to them done by somebody... Let's explain how this works again for newbies?

37:40 Yeah, if you're a local news station and you're covering national news which they all do because it's at the top of the headlines usually has to be addressed. And I want you know that pretty soon your local new stations will probably be gone due to underfunding but that's for later in the program It's possibility although there is still good money maker from most locals. Yeah, i'll tell you why in minute Whatever the case... And I smack my lips there, sorry We are both saying by the way too much Are we both saying by the way too much you have no idea how bad you have? No, idea. How bad it is or I have an end of show clip of us doing by the way And yeah end of show guys should be strong up as a new guy and new it's a new guy These people just make our lives miserable wait until you hear it Oh sure Yeah, okay when they do have a big shot of vodka after that one anyways

38:39 Our local station, they get the news. They get a feed and they read from the feed. They write it...they polish it very little. The national guys do more work than the local guys. They'll change their names like you know, good evening everybody! And they bring in a package which is somebody's already pre-produced with a person that's...They even customize the package so that person says I'm talking for our local... And it was George W Bush who started doing this on mass scale in his administration? Yeah, very wise thing to do. Well here is the local report with the package which I believe represents the official government stance on this and this is the clip ISIS kill with Mollie what's Helen Berger whatever name is never heard of her

39:23 coming in from Washington. We're learning new details tonight about the special operations raid on an ISIS leader in Syria, the man identified as Abu Sayyaf was killed last night his wife taken captive and another woman considered his slave rescued reports say US commanders had to hold on a second this Isis is starting to sound pretty good You got wives and slaves, this sounds like a good deal. Reports say US commandos had to use hand-to-hand combat against Sa'ed Off and his guards. Sa'ed Off and others started using women and children as human shields they say... Okay stop! I saw the same report on my local station.

40:16 I love hand-to-hand combat. It's so parallel that it is almost embarrassing! I would love to understand how they got into a situation of hand-to-hand combat. Hey, that's my wife! Hey, punchy you! Give me that slave! Using your kid as a human shield? douchebag. I'll just, i'll just knock you out." As human shields they say but U.S forces were able to keep the women and children alive while killing Sayov and 11 guards intelligence was recovered including laptops files and phone treasure trove. Sayov was a powerful figure who controlled ISIS oil and finance operations reporter Molly Henneberg has more from Washington. Go Molly!

40:58 A senior US defense official tells Fox that this was quote a real firefight, no kidding old school firefight. Here's what Defense Secretary A no kidding, what like a... at the OK Corral? Is that what she means? I don't know but it was like gun smoke. You had 10 people killed on one or 11 or 12 people killed on one side and nobody else even hit with the bullet. Fight! No kidding old school firefight. No kidding old school fire fight. Here's what Defense Secretary Ash Carter said about the raid. Quote, last night at the direction of the commander in chief I ordered US special operations forces to conduct an operation in Alamir in eastern Syria to capture an ISIL senior leader known as Abu Sayyaf and his wife Umm Sayyaf. Abu Sayyaf was involved in ISILs military operations and helped direct the terrorist organizations illicit oil gas and financial operations as well

41:58 Secretary Carter says no U.S. personnel were killed or injured during this operation The Obama administration has largely relied on drone strikes in fighting ISIS. But one former national security advisor during the President George W Bush administration says President Obama was willing to take more of a risk here Let's face it, this is a statement as well The US for the first time going in on the ground killing a high value leader I got it The rest of the leadership now has even gotta be more wary than they were before Yeah The Delta team also found archaeological relics such as an Assyrian Bible. As for the Yazidi woman found during the raid, who appears to have been ISIS slave, The Obama administration says it hopes to reunite her with her family as soon as possible." Somebody please make me a T-shirt that says ISIS Slave. Please! I really want that. You know what this sounds like? This is such malarkey. It sounds like they're trying

42:57 obfuscate the fact that we now have boots on the ground, which we were not going to have by saying oh well you know we saved the children. We didn't drone strike. We had the guts to go in and save them, the slave and the wife and the kids. That to me is the tip of the iceberg of the messaging of this This is also experimental. How's the public gonna react? Do you have a you may have more I want to enter we do have two more clips that are important just for Background, I have a quick clip of lieutenant general Terry Who gave a quick statement at the Pentagon about? About what is happening and listen to the words and descriptors he's using for this clear boots on the ground Mission as part of a broader diplomatic intelligence military and economic effort The coalition will enable regional partner security Iraqi Security Forces must be a capable force one that can restore Iraq's sovereign borders

43:55 retake territory from Daesh and secure... Now he's saying Daesh instead of ISIS. The Iraqi people. Make up your mind! An offensively minded and trained security force backed by an inclusive government Iraq is the key to future stability. Hold on a second, an offensive force? That's not just training no that's not just hanging out in the background an offensive force backed by... Offensively minded and trained security force backed by an inclusive government Iraq is the key to future stability As you know, we have been authorized an additional 1,500 U.S. personnel that will serve in non-combat roles to support additional advice and assist requirements in the building partner capacity effort." So I don't understand if you have a non combat role but you have a security force that is offensive? In addition, we anticipate coalition contributions that should produce at least an additional 1500 personnel in these efforts

44:53 Yeah, we're seeing initial successes in this fight. Yep My assessment is that dash has been halted and transitioning to the defense Oh And as attempting to hold what they currently have you will see some local counterattacks in that regard okay? There will be challenges down the road that will require patience Patience the government of Iraq understands the grave threat they face and they are resolved to defeat it The Combined Joint Task Force represents what I believe is a new chapter of what ISIS will be, a successful campaign to bring the coalition's power to bear and ultimately lead to the defeat of Daesh. But it's not Daesh that we're worried about! It's ISIS or ISIL or IS! Who is he beating? He's beating Daesh

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Delta Force Mission Discrepancies and Umm Sayyaf Interrogation

Reports from France 24 suggest that Abu Sayyaf was not on the primary U.S. hit list, leading to speculation that Delta Force may have been targeting a different high-value individual. Meanwhile, U.S. officials believe Umm Sayyaf will provide critical information regarding ISIS sex trafficking and financial networks. General Jack Keane commented on the psychological pressure used in interrogations to break suspects without resorting to physical torture.

delta force· umm sayyaf· syria· intelligence· interrogation

45:35 Dude, you're on the wrong playing field with your dash. You guys have got to get a clue No they have the clue They don't care just now if you remember their original report from KTVU Which is the local station here that where they said at the end when the woman came out with the package She was the representative of the government but she says she's in Fox and I guess she works there There was the mention of Obama signing off on we got to get this guy. The direction, the direction of the commander in chief. Now I want to play The next clip would be F-24. This is the France 24 report and there's a couple of discrepancies in here that, like wait a minute... It wasn't a bounty on his head and it does seem unusual to send the most elite unit in the US military to assassinate or capture a guy who isn't on the hit list

46:26 And it has led to speculation that perhaps the Delta Force team that did go to Deir ez-Zor in the early hours of yesterday were looking for someone else. Several other jihadists were killed alongside Saif while computers and documents belonging to the group was seized in the raid. Saif's wife was also captured and is now being questioned at an American military prison in Iraq I couldn't really hear the first bit Okay, let me tell you what the guy said This was part of a long exposition where they went on about this This guy, Syed is not on the hit list. Look at the American, you know they have these... They have rewards for justice. Of guys we're going after? This guy's nowhere on it so why would you send Delta Force the most elite group of killers that we have working for us after some guy who is not even on the list! For hand-to-hand combat So they believe this wasn't the guy they were after In other words because one of the ex-Delta force generals was yacking about how great they are

47:25 What they're implying here is that they screwed up. They didn't shoot the guy they were after, this wasn't an elite group that nailed this guy going after them. They found this guy! So what are we gonna do boss? We can't... The other guys not here. Who do you think they were after? Grabbed the accountant. Who do you think they were after? Free his slave Who did make the most of this? I'm not even gonna ask anymore. Usayev himself, but i think the wife is going to be a treasure trove of... No! The wife is a treasure trove thank goodness now i thought the computers and the laptops and the books This guy, this is the ex-general head of the delta force talking about how great they are even though apparently they botched his last mission John! And now that big prize has arrived, this is my mistake

48:08 I have never been looking for a woman who could be a treasure trove of wife. I'd look for trophy-wise, you need treasure trove! I never understood it. Usayev himself but i think the wife is going to be uh... treasure trove information she's gonna know a lot of the connections she's gonna know what she has to walk ten feet behind the guy what are talking about? She can't even talk to that guy, are you kidding me?! personalities, she's gonna know a lot about how things operate and what is just beginning to unfold Oh man, I'm gonna give it to you. She's going to know a lot about how things operate and what is just beginning to unfold is her involvement in the slave trade and the sex trafficking type of thing which is making big money for ISIS so I think she's gonna provide a lot of value... Wait a minute! If its making big money for ISIS where can I buy me a treasure trove slaves?

49:00 What is that on the dark deep hidden web? You're gonna share all your information with your slave wife. Hold on I have to check Memex see if i can find me a treasure trove wife from Dash. Making big money for ISIS so I think she's going to provide a lot of valuable information, If exploited properly could really strike another devastating blow to ISIS Now what makes us think Finally, women are helping the war on terror. That she will talk to us and by the way... Waterboard the bitch! Hello? Just waterboard her come on you know how to do that Now what makes us think that she will talk to us and by the way who is she talking to what are the rules Is this Janine You got it I love her Does Iraq have her or we have her How does this work

49:46 I am quite sure that Iraq is putting great pressure on the Central Command right now to turn her over, but I can assure you she's in the hands of U.S. interrogators right now and she will talk and i don't mean that from a torture perspective eventually she will talk Don't worry we're from America everybody! She will talk There's indeed for rescue mission when the world is threatened The world needs help It calls on America And that's the story. If you don't mean it from a torture perspective, General, then how are you convinced? Because she is very unlikely that she has had any kind of training or preparation for how to resist interrogation You know only force feeds through your rectum and what is going to happen they're gonna have her so confused She'll be tired, she'll be confused as to where she is

50:42 And they do this by just turning on the Kardashians. If she watches that and she goes, I'm so confused what is this world i'm living in? Controlling her ultimately she'll break just from a psychological perspective she'll break and talk Is the success of this mission you know even though the person intended to be captured ended up being killed does that somewhat signal what's going to be happening in the future Oh, I hope so. Listen Judge this Delta Force was created to do just this kind of thing and again i say from the people that have talked to us in text book operations... But I think that this should send a strong signal you can't hide This administration may be finally starting to break the code on what it's going to take to hurt ISIS In a way that is gonna make them rethink how they're operating Alright bend over here coach

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations and Relationship Karma

The hosts acknowledge financial support from the "No Agenda" producer community, including a significant donation from Grand Duke David Foley. Other contributors include Baroness Monica Lansing and Sir Charles Jordan. Listeners requested "karma" for various life events, including job searches, health issues, and high school graduations, while the hosts discussed the concept of "moral self-licensing" for donors.

donations· grand duke· baroness· karma· crowdfunding

51:38 We need to kill them. We need to kill them! Wow, good one John. Good one Good one. Yeah, I caught that just... I love it! This guy's nuts Well with that i want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Cliff of the day Dvorak And in the morning to you Adam Curry In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there In the morning to everyone in the shot room, noagendastream.com who are having a good time laughing it up with that clip of the day in the morning to our artists and we thank MrFabulous who is brand new to the partay I believe. I see you going back and forth on the email with MrFabulous Yeah he said thanks for choosing my art hey thank you for making it NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is where you can find all those submissions but people don't

52:39 Visit that when we and we mentioned every single time We always credit our artists pretty much as first credit anywhere in the show And I always mention no agenda art generator calm go there see what's happening You will be inspired Inspired. I tell you good work everybody thank you. We have a lot of thinking so we want to thank a few people including here's a donation from David Foley not the Dave Foley from kids in the hall he's a grand duke so holy moly buy a 4k TV

53:23 That's right. The Grand Duke of USA, everybody! Yes Sir David Foley the Grand Duke is in Los Gatos California force 5678 please enclosed find one of John's favorite donations to help stave off the recent lull of Donations thanks for continuing to bring us in Fletcher voice I don't think we have a Fletcher doing that actually Well, you'll be by the end of this show. By the end of this segment. The end of the A-block segment. Can't even imagine what he made at dinner table. PASTA WHY?

54:05 Sir, or sir. Hey Monica Lansing from Drayton Valley Alberta 333 33 really like what you two are doing keep up the great work and the donation should make me a baroness yay I'd like to request the job karma for Ken for Ken good old Ken jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs For our two executive producers, we go now to associate executive producer Sir Charles Jordan. 273 from Wisconsin-Milwaukee to be specific. FoundationBar.com, Wisconsin. Wisconsin's best Mai Tai in the universe. FoundationBar.com. Check it out if you're in the area. I think you should.

54:54 David Fugazotto in Parts Unknown, he may say in the letter. $234.56 23456 when I heard James Spann was one of the executive producers for show 721 and it was a sign that that it was time again to contribute you did TB PITU, Mr. Spann is the weatherman of my youth." Yeah I saw this email coming in and didn't know that. That's kind of cool! Yeah he is an old-timer weatherman. I'd like to thank him for his courage in supporting the show and glad to hear he's doing his best to propagate the formula all over The Magic City. Adam have you given any thought to establishing a donation amount that would gain the donor his own moral self license?

55:38 This would be eminently useful. Any amount actually gives you moral self-license, but we don't have a special amount. Would be eminently useful when douchebags bring up the latest cause du jour and attempt to cajole some useless gesture such as dumping a bucket of ice water on your head." Or red nose or any other... The red nose is pretty old though. It still falls under the moral self licensing heading now for sure. Oh yeah absolutely. Perhaps one of your talented producers could mock up something for you and John's approval. Okay, this donation should bump me over the easy the crest of knighthood Please dub me sir Dave doctor of live-in

56:23 Leviv? Leviv. I'd love to hear at the end of the day song, get some pork ribs and pale ale and have a birthday shout out for my lovely wife! Oh is she on the list? I just put her on the list. 19th May Thanks for twice weekly dose of sanity humor and public service announcements But at the end of the day they're backing him you know they're backing... come on At the end of the day. At the end of the day, John? If someone wants to get anyone they can get him... At the end of the day. But at the end of the day it's more important that we have entertainment! So at the end of the day who is going pay for the real loan? It's gonna be taxpayer money! Because at the end of the day thats gonna up to Valerie Jarrett I mean at the end of the day isn't that it?!

57:16 It goes on for another minute, maybe a little longer. I'm sure it does! But I can play to the end of this show... I am annoyed that I never catch you saying it. I don't say it! It's by the way that I say as much as you do By the way? By the way. It is disgusting when you get... Ron let us get rid of these things one day What's interesting to me which I don't think is one of them what's interesting to me Is there are so many of these ditties And then we pepper our conversation, everybody does. We pepper our conversation with them... I don't think Pepper the Conversation is one of them constantly but you get paranoid. I'm very paranoid! Yeah, I'm actually talking staccato now to make sure i don't do anything wrong. But I'm so worried uh..I wind up talking to friends

58:08 I say basically, I said. I meant to say basically and they look at me like What the fuck are you talking about? Because they don't listen to the show or anything. They're talking about you idiot! Essentially, I meant to say essentially yeah well we try we try let's we do try move on is is an event listing and search service. They should probably license Memex, and working toward the premier event listing service available in the not too distant future will capture the Hot Pockets tours if they're properly advertised. If any producers work in an environment where you are underpaid and micromanaged

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1:00:51 Saying something she said I think she sent a long note because the PayPal refused to take her her thing Claudia girl things no good with us your thing is. No good, I Don't know Is it burger and I have boy ear that's not her? I have real email here'd have to come in that way I don't know I do not have anything from her Let me try this one more time just let me take a second Claudia regardless your thing is no good Your thing is no good That thing's no good. Nah, I got nothing. Alright she must have come up with a different email or something. She can email us we always do make goods. Hell yeah we do make goods. Jennifer Loveberg in San Marcos California $200 dear John and Adam thank you so much for your work

1:01:39 with a slew of exclamation marks. Last month while on vacation in Solvang, California in Santa Barbara County I met a man in the hot tub who was on... this is already a good story! I met a man in the hot tub who's on special security detail. This is the latest. No this is the latest Yeah, I guess the hit list staying at a hotel He enjoyed flirting with my single girlfriend at a US tax at the u.s.. Taxpayers expense what a great kind hell yeah Please keep up to fantastic work We need you we need you love from northern Mexico Jennifer Love Karma for my 18 year old graduating high school and leaving for college in August Gracious amigos, I think that's so cool hey

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CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Presidential Proclamations and International Day Against Homophobia

President Obama issued several proclamations for the upcoming week, including World Trade Week, Emergency Medical Services Week, and National Safe Boating Week. The hosts also noted the International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia, quoting the President's statement on the dignity of LGBT individuals and the need to live free from discrimination.

barack obama· world trade week· ems week· safe boating week· lgbt rights

1:03:46 Excellent. And that concludes our group of producers and executive producers for show 722 want to thank them remind people do have a show coming up on Thursday still plugging along we need some continued help so go to Dvorak org slash NA and I will be coming to you from Manhattan on the third shake it up you never know what answers yes exactly Dvorak dot-org slash N A Please also remember you can do the very important work of being out there and propagating the formula. Our formula is this, we go out we hit people in the mouth. Hey citizens! Shut up! And before we move on today John a number of presidential proclamations You know we love seeing what days months even weeks are important according to our president

1:04:49 So this upcoming week will be World Trade Week, which is... it's just so coincidental. I don't know how do they get legislation about free trade agreements and the TPP right when World Trade Week kicks off? These guys coordinate so well! Of course we have Armed Forces Day which What day is that? Did we already miss it, Armed Forces Day? We missed it. Oh no! It's the third Saturday of each May so that will be this upcoming Saturday, Armed Forces Day I thought it would be yesterday. Yeah might have been yesterday... This will be this upcoming week is Emergency Medical Services Week

1:05:39 And I still never found anything about Nurses Week. I think that's... Still quite a faux pas, but he doesn't care about nurses apparently But this is the critical role of EMS professionals Whether it's 911 dispatchers emergency medical technicians paramedics EMS medical directors law enforcement officers firefighters or nurses there It is haha! There you go nurse as you get to share and we have it is oh ha Just national safe boating week It's about time. Because America's waterways are conduits to creating lasting memories, to discover worlds of adventures and to generate economic opportunity on our rivers lakes and oceans a father brings his daughter fishing for the first time A young man learns his ancestors trade a family takes a hard ear- I have a better one than that Oh? Play the oil shell Seattle in kayaks clip

1:06:33 Do I get to go back to my proclamations? Well, hundreds of people took to their kayaks sailboats and canoes in Seattle today to protest oil drilling by energy giant Shell. Activists staged the event called Paddle In Seattle in Elliot Bay. That's where the first of Shell's two oil rigs arrived. Shell is using the Port Of Seattle as a staging area for its 20 vessel Arctic operation according to Shell's website The Arctic holds about 30% of the world's undiscovered natural gas and 13% of its oil. One community is really upset about this, yeah the S&M community because they used to have paddle in Seattle. Well right along with that and of course it is still masturbation month but not by presidential proclamation however today John today

1:07:26 is International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia. Today and today alone, only for today special today your white sale Michelle and I join our fellow Americans and others around the world in commemorating the International Day against homophobia and transphobia tomorrow. Why did the bi-curious men and women not get a day? We take this opportunity to reaffirm that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights are human rights. To celebrate the dignity of every person and to underscore that all people deserve to live free from fear violence discrimination regardless of who they are or whom they love Love now synonymous for everything

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Hamvention in Dayton and Amateur Radio Culture

The annual Hamvention in Dayton, Ohio, is highlighted as the premier event for amateur radio enthusiasts. The hosts discuss the scale of the event and the availability of live streams from organizations like ICOM America. Observations are made about the demographic of attendees, often characterized by the use of wheelchairs and portable oxygen.

hamvention· dayton ohio· amateur radio· hamfest· w5kub

1:08:05 And, of course this weekend I did not go mainly because the show would just get in the way or it would be in the way of the show. Let's put it that way. Hamvention in Dayton Ohio is a big... Hamvention? You went last time! No, I went to Hamfest in Plano. Oh, Hamfest. I'm sorry. Hamvention is the big one in Dayton. That's the Big Whopper It's the mega-mega whopper. I wish they'd move out to San Francisco and have at The Cow Palace It's big enough probably for the Cow Palace. I would hope, yeah. But it's fun you know there is a W5KUB does a live stream

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Federal Court Ruling on Emergency Cell Service Shutdowns

A federal appeals court ruled that the Department of Homeland Security can keep its plan for disabling cell service during emergencies secret under Standard Operating Procedure 303. The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) had challenged the government's right to withhold these documents. In response, the hosts recommend that citizens acquire landlines and amateur radio licenses to ensure communication during network shutdowns.

dhs· foia· cell service· sop 303· ham radio

1:08:42 ICOM America does a live stream, Ham Nation will be doing something live. Then it's really... I'd love to go but I couldn't get the wheelchair and the oxygen in time because that seems to be the kit you need in order to... It's funny! You watch this cam and you see people walking and you just see dudes in wheelchairs with oxygen. Yeah, well there was a lot of wheelchairs on these flights I was on. By the same token...I did want to mention...let's see this was an interesting article that came out...the Federal Appeals Court has decided not force the federal government to disclose its plan to disable cell service during emergencies

1:09:36 And this was the Court of Appeals for District of Columbia Circuit concerning Standard Operating Procedure 303. How did I miss this? I didn't know they were going to discontinue... This is like crazy! Oh, it's an emergency kill all the phones so nobody can talk to anybody. Here it is I'm reading now, the court had taken the same position in February agreed with the government's contention that the Freedom of Information Act allows the Department of Homeland Security to withhold documents if their exposure could quote endanger public safety. EPIC, the Electronic Privacy Information Center which brought the Freedom of Information Act suit asked the court to revisit the issue on what is known as en banc review uh...to understand

1:10:20 how the federal government will be shutting off the cell service, very similar to what they did in the... was it the subway or the...? You called it Subway, was it in San Francisco? Not Subway. BART...was it...? Remember they...? Yes, they shut down the BART of cell phones with a jammer and there were some protests going on and they didn't...they were fed up because the guys who are organizing over this cell system. Do you realize what kind of disruption that would be? I keep saying to everybody, I'm gonna say it again. I've said it before, I'll say it again Get a landline, people. Well not just that... get a ham radio!

1:11:01 Get a ham radio for sure get a license getting a tech license anybody can do it easy now with the ham radio You got point to point you know and you know who your friends are just you gotta hit the button? You're talking to your wife, and you can hit repeaters And yeah even though repeaters may only be on temporarily because they're also powered But yeah, there's 39 bucks cheap ass bail Feng Chinese Yeah, that's a fine... Is it dual-bander? Yeah. In fact you can order from Amazon just like about 25 miles I would say just order them you can order them from amazon without we don't need to show your license You can legally use it but get a couple just to have it and then get your technicians license go to ARRL.org It is really worth it

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Amazon Echo Alexa Reordering Functionality

A demonstration of the Amazon Echo's "Alexa" voice assistant shows how users can reorder household products using voice commands. The host records an interaction where Alexa successfully identifies a previous order of shave balm and places a new order. The segment reflects on the "futuristic" nature of voice-controlled home automation and its impact on consumer habits.

amazon echo· alexa· voice commerce· smart home· automation

1:11:46 Now, technology. I just wanted to stick on this because... ...I am from the future! I'm living in the future and all these great tech shows everywhere All they can talk about is Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple Apple You were able to order music with it and now new functionality, and this makes a lot of sense once I figured out... Once I thought about it. You can reorder anything that you have ordered previously And for a lot of things like if your running out of something If you just say-I won't say her name because she's listening Alexa? No she can't hear me. I had headphones on so she couldn't hear ya But I recorded my experience

1:12:47 Would you like to hear this? Oh God. It's a short yes, I want to hear it Alexa reorder shave balm. I found multiple matches in the past orders The top one is livium and sensitive post-shave bomb 3.3 ounce pack of four the order total is $23.99 Should I order it? Yes Okay Order placed This is disgusting I'm watching one of those crappy movies. Some future movie where the guy's living in a small apartment, this may be your... yeah you're an apartment! A small apartment overlooking the downtown and then there's the walls are all silver colored i don't know they don't use paint in the future apparently And they have some device that's the only thing in the house I might add is this thing that you talk to Yeah yeah you are living in the future

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

George Stephanopoulos Clinton Foundation Donation Controversy

ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos apologized for failing to disclose $75,000 in donations to the Clinton Global Foundation while covering the organization on air. Analysts suggest Stephanopoulos, a former Clinton operative, may have intentionally "fallen on his sword" to distract from broader questions regarding foreign donors to the foundation. The incident has sparked debate over journalistic integrity and his role in moderating political debates.

george stephanopoulos· clinton foundation· abc news· conflict of interest· politico

1:13:45 I love it. Yeah, I'm bored or disgusted It's the half of the wife that I don't need to have anymore is perfect Just leave that million ways we can go with that just leave that where it is John no need to get into it at all Something fantastic happened, which I believe has been completely misdiagnosed purposely probably but... I'd like to deconstruct what happened with George Stephanopoulos. Oh this is good! Yeah good i'm glad you did that because I knew about it and followed it but didn't get any clips or anything So I will play his apology and that should explain most Now I want to address some news you may have seen about me Over the last several years I've made substantial donations to dozens of charities including the Clinton Global Foundation

1:14:30 Those donations were a matter of public record, but I should have made additional disclosures on air when we covered the foundation. And now believe that directing personal donations to that foundation was a mistake. Even though I made them strictly support work done to stop the spread of AIDS help children and protect the environment in poor countries, I should have gone the extra mile to avoid even the appearance of a conflict. I apologize to all of you for failing to do that." So he's not going to be fired. This is not like a Brian Williams thing, but it has been news of the day and in pop big time on Politico even though they were not the ones who discovered it... The was some other smaller outfit I'll find in a minute and it was $75,000 $25,000 in 2011 2012 and 2013

1:15:19 Now, George Stephanopoulos has always been a Clinton operative. We've seen him do this in interviews... Of course we've seen him run the campaign for Bill Clinton and this guy is so dedicated that what I believe happened, and you know Hillary Clinton has been silent for three weeks. Oh she's not addressing the questions of the donations to the foundation she's not addressing it No because she went George fall on this sword George So this guy comes out and boom Not a word left about foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation It's all about Stephanopoulos This guy is he so loyal! SO LOYAL

1:16:03 that he decided to jump in and say, okay take me. Hit me around for a bit." I think you're dead on it's the perfect analysis. Clintons will screw their friends but i believe in this case... And they'll kill their friends! Maybe they said hey if you don't do we'll kill you and that could be possible but no one is saying... You know there was I do have well we had a clip about three years ago before Christopher Hitchens died And they talked about, Hitchens hated Clinton to such an extreme and he said why. He actually quoted Stephanopoulos who told him that Bill Clinton in particular was a sociopath liar!

1:16:46 And it went on and on about it, but even with that in mind that Stephanopoulos was irked by Clinton's lying and straight-faced sociopathic personality. He stayed loyal and he stayed specifically to Hillary. He is a big Hillary fan It's just kind of pathetic that this guy Well, of course then again ABC is... They're all in. But I really was impressed that how they played it, impressed that they got this out to... When you put something...I think Politico has so much importance in Washington DC and they seem highly compromised. They don't make profit by the way.

1:17:35 And so, yeah. I was just wow the guy will do anything he really... Do you remember when he was moderating the Republican candidate debates? I remember that he threw something in, and we talked about it on the show. It was completely unrelated to anything at the time about...I think it was bringing in the abortion thing on The Republicans. It was something that was sketchy. Yeah. He did something that was underhanded. He's highly condemned for but he did it anyway. And I looked and I could not find a clip

1:18:15 But yeah, but so he's always been an operative and now he does it. And it's really... I just wonder what the next step will be? So this is going on about...I think Lucifer would have to come out and say something about him to propagate it and keep it going or maybe not at all. They're very smart! It's so smart they know how to do this. I'm impressed. Very impressed with them. We have movement... Well there's no sniping yet though, woman. We have lots of movement going on After John F. Kerry went to see Putin, which was entirely underreported... No real information on it. Not in this show we reported it! Thank you. Now, Newton Noodleman

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Victoria Nuland Moscow Visit and Ukraine Regime Stability

Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland visited Moscow for talks on the Ukrainian conflict amid reports of corruption involving President Petro Poroshenko. Radio Free Europe has begun reporting on Poroshenko's alleged misuse of power in a land deal, leading to speculation that the U.S. may be preparing for another regime change in Kiev. The segment reviews Nuland's historical involvement in the 2014 Ukrainian government transition.

victoria nuland· moscow· ukraine· poroshenko· radio free europe

1:19:01 Vicky Newland is going to visit Moscow for Ukraine talks and this comes amongst... Whoa, whoa. What has she got to do with it? Is she running Ukraine? Yes! Hello?! Oh yes yeah but let's review because people often forget this when the Maidan was starting up actually was even before the Maidan We had Victoria Newland, real name Noodleman married to the Kagan clan. We had her conspiring

1:19:40 about the new Ukrainian government and they would oust the democratically elected current president, and they would bring Yats. Her favorite Yats would come in he's the prime minister who would run everything... And then famously which I mean this should be in every retrospective show about the Ukrainian crisis she said... And at the same time, we now have reports from Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty. Now we know who they are... that's us! Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty is entirely funded by the Broadcast Board of Governors, USAID money goes into that. That is a propaganda- that is the RT of America

1:20:30 And they now have reports, while Nudelman's over there talking to the Russians of President Poroshenko's misuse of presidential power. Ah! He is corrupt now you see? He has been exposed in a 25 million dollar land deal cover up So Ukraine is not going the way they want it to go and I believe Kerry was there too start something up and Nudelman is probably going through operational work And I think we might see another regime change in Ukraine.

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Macedonia Pipeline Geopolitics and Potential Color Revolution

Macedonia is identified as a potential site for a "color revolution" due to its strategic role in the Turkish Stream pipeline project. The Gazprom-led route into Europe requires passage through Macedonia, which has recently faced terrorist attacks and political unrest. Similar patterns of instability were noted in Hungary after it expressed support for Russian energy projects.

macedonia· turkish stream· gazprom· color revolution· pipelines

1:21:07 At the same time, this may also be on the agenda. Did we talk about Macedonia? I think I mentioned it a couple weeks ago or a couple shows ago... Be On The Lookout For Macedonia Do you remember that maybe i thought it? I don't remember it Okay, Macedonia The reason why if I was interested in Macedonia is the brand new Turkish stream which used to be the south stream which is the Gazprom route into Europe, the new pipeline is ramping up, they've started to build it. It's going to be into Turkey but to get it in the EU... The planned route is through Macedonia Now, we already saw this happen with Hungary. When Hungary said yeah! We're all in on the South Stream at the time before it became the Turkish stream and they had a bank run and all kinds of horrible things happened and Macedonia is all prepped and ready to go to receive the Turkish stream...we get a terrorist attack there's now talk of a color revolution which today would be starting. Mason? What color do you think? We haven't seen that for awhile A color revolution yeah

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Putin on CIA Chechnya Support and NATO Allied Shield

Vladimir Putin claimed in a recent broadcast that the CIA and Western intelligence services backed Chechen terrorists in the 1990s to weaken Russia. Meanwhile, NATO is conducting the "Allied Shield" series of military exercises, including "Noble Partner" in Georgia and "Trident Joust 15." A video from a NATO summit in Turkey shows foreign ministers singing "We Are The World," which the hosts characterize as a pathetic display by world leaders.

vladimir putin· nato· allied shield· black sea· georgia

1:22:11 I don't know what color they'll choose. It always has to be something bright. I think lilac. The lilac revolution, good very good and i also uh... finally got a transcript of Putin's podcast he does this you know it doesn't big show at it this was in april there is that big yeah there's the one again goes like three hours yeah and he has call-ins and all kinds of fun stuff talking summarizing what he said The terror in Chechnya, in the early 1990s he says in this podcast of his was actively backed by CIA and Western intelligence services to deliberately weaken Russia.

1:22:55 Which is a big deal for him to come out and say that. And of course what he's saying now is they are all, the West, the United States are trying to do the exact same thing now by weakening our state and they're doing this through a number of means. Of course we have the economic sanctions which as far as I'm concerned is an act of war at this point. I think it is yeah So, that of course will not be reported or discussed at all. But more importantly we discovered...we were looking at the map and we saw all the US warships in the Black Sea and so I'm looking at this and we have this coming up the end of this month and throughout June NATO doing a series of exercises under the heading Allied Shield

1:23:49 And Allied Shield includes Exercise Noble Partner, which kicks off I think... yeah 11th. It's already starting 11 to 25th. This will also include the Republic of Georgia where They will see the exercise bilateral effort focused on enhancing US and Georgian NRF interoperability. NRF is the NATO response force, this is if you're not really in NATO but you want to be... You can have a NATO response force which means you buy stuff from NATO members and then along with that comes Trident Joust 15! And this will be another part of the NATO Response Force Exercise

1:24:41 According to the Italian Army Lieutenant General Leonardo Di Marco, they will actually for the first time have NATO headquarters change of control. So they're really practicing or exercising a number of different ways of pretty much fighting Russia And I wish this is the one time, it would be nice if we had a little bit of video but i will play you the audio. We had all of the NATO ambassadors or foreign ministers in Turkey and they had a big summit to talk about NRFs and the exercises... What do you with NATO? You talk about who's going to buy the weapons and where are we gonna use them

1:25:26 And at the end of this thing, you have to see this. They're all on the stage these four ministers and the form...you don't recognize them but because they kind of fly under the radar. They're drunk as skunks and they're singing! They are now on stage singing We Are The World their hands in the air some of them actually have drinks in their hand And they're singing, We are the world. This is how pathetic this is! These are our leaders? Yes these people... Leaders yeah! 15 seconds and now they're doing a conga line. Here's the guy ending it up You have to see this video It's in the show notes

1:26:29 This is pathetic. It is... But that's what they do, they go around, they drink, they screw each other. Spend the taxpayers' money on a bunch of garbage they don't need. Yeah! Stir up crap. And then just be plastered all the time. These guys are taking us to the brink of death. They're gonna get us killed these idiots I believe we're getting a little too close You can poke the bear and poke the bear and poke the bear but at certain point I'm gonna be careful with the bear. You know, something strange happened to me and I came across something which I wanted to ask you about. I think I often don't take enough advantage of your knowledge base which is quite vast. That's probably...I think the bigger problem is that you're not passing out enough discs. Well there's that!

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

War of 1812 History and Indian Proxy Warfare

A deep dive into the War of 1812 explores the conflict's origins and the role of Native American tribes as proxies for the British and American empires. The discussion highlights how the British weaponized tribes like the Shawnee and Miami to raid American settlers, while the U.S. allied with the Cherokee and Choctaw. This historical perspective challenges the simplified narrative of the war and the burning of the White House.

war of 1812· james madison· canada· native americans· proxy war

1:27:20 But you're kind of like near the surface we see the iceberg, but underneath that's where then that's where exactly I want to say something about the discs by the way so had a bunch of disks with me So i'm at the gas station guy said by the way I put the discs around and the guy said, what's this? He's picking up garbage. And so it is not garbage. It's a yeah. I said take it taken in listen to this. This garbage guy very good. So he took it looks and looks and looks at puts his pocket need probably listened to it. So Mimi pointed out you read the label on this thing. Yeah highlights of 2013. There you go that's us We do have new ones. All right, back to the iceberg! Yeah back to the iceberg so I was reading an article about President Obama when he was teaching at Chicago Law School and a former student of his was perturbed about

1:28:13 Something the president said, and this goes back to the Affordable Care Act i.e., Obamacare, and the president had said that the Supreme Court if they ruled against it would be the unprecedented overruling of elected officials by unelected judges. I don't think we caught that when he said it at the time, but the student who of course is now a lawyer says you know this is unconscionable because Marbury versus Madison proves that judicial review works within our system. And that is in fact, one of the first documented cases of judicial review overruling the elected officials. So as I'm doing that, I'm kind of reading around and I...and of course, I stumble on because it was Marbury versus Madison James Madison, the fourth president of United States and the fifth secretary of state

1:29:09 And it was because of the path that he took being Secretary of State first before became President, I was looking around. This is...I really got lost in this history lesson and i want to say that we spend so much time in today's culture talking about science fiction and future and so little on history. Apple watch! Hail apple! So I wanted to see if there was a comparison between how James Madison became uh but he was a congressman first not a senator unlike Hillary And while I'm doing this, I bump into the War of 1812. Which now...I didn't attend

1:29:48 school in the United States, well third grade but then of course it was in Europe. They weren't talking about that in the third grade and I did not know about the War of 1812 are you familiar with the war of 1812? Everybody is! Really or should be can you explain well shall I tell you what I found you want to tell me? The Canadians we attacked Canada yeah we decided that oh let's and by the way this war still irksome in a lot of different ways and I'll explain that but we decided that you know Canada unlike us because we're superior has never really left the British Empire so let's free them

1:30:23 And so we decide to attack Canada and they just said, what is this? What are you idiots trying to do. They attack us back and they burn down the White House right. And they say there's a little more to it as little more that that's the essence of the essence but then at the end of the day I can say that I say it at the end of the day when all was said and done the Canadians to this day a carp on this, you know? You assholes. We didn't want...you're getting into our business and we showed you and you lost out one didn't ya eh?" And this sort of thing. But the joke on the Canadians is well they do that but we go huh what are you talking about? What are you talking about I don't know what you mean. There's a piece to it that i didn't realize

1:31:19 And the piece that was missing, well first of all the way and I've read several different accounts but i'll say right up front Wikipedia is where I got a lot of it from so book of knowledge take that for what its worth. We were pissed off that the British had forced the French to no longer trade with us and we also had British ships off the east coast and this is still kind of remnants from the Revolutionary War 1776. And we had settlers moving closer and closer into Candanavia And, you know...it was people in covered wagons I presume. But what the British did is they gave weapons to a whole bunch of Indian tribes including the Shawnee, the Chickamauga, the Fox, the Miami, the Mingo, the Ottawa, the Kickapoo but by the same token we had the Choctaw, the Cherokee and Creek allies on our side

1:32:17 And so we had Indians fighting Indians. And this is never really explained when people talk about, oh you white men came in and killed all the Indians. It seems like a little more was going on than just us killing the Indians particularly if the British were giving weapons to them And this was Ohio, Indiana, Illinois. And it was these British weaponized Indian tribes who were raiding the settlers and burning their shit and stealing and killing and raping the women. Just thought it was interesting to point out that's never mentioned!

1:32:55 that this was really a Indian tribe war by proxy, where they were the proxy for the United States and the British Empire. That's how we learned proxy wars. Yeah! Maybe it's one of the first examples... It sounds like a reasonable... yeah I'm sure it's all entertaining. History is great. You can always say whatever you want to dig into it, you'll find even more weird stuff that went on. Whatever you're told in your day-to-day basis is nonsense. Hail Apple. Hail Apple! Exactly Well, good. I'm glad you got distracted by that. It was not...I think it was my...I learned something. I learned about the War of 1812 and that it was a little more than just what you said which would be the popular explanation but the Indian tribe thing was new to me. Well believe me, the 1812 explanation I gave is new to most people. Yeah, that's the sad thing. The millennials. That's the sad thing. All right so I've got a little side thing here though. Right. Go off the track

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

McDonald's Sirloin Burger Commercial and Voiceover Casting

A critique of a McDonald's radio advertisement for the "Sirloin Third Pound Burger" focuses on the specific vocal style of the voiceover artist. The host argues that the "hip, modern" casting brief resulted in a distinctive, slightly lisped delivery. The segment also questions the marketing of ground sirloin as a premium product, noting it is a common and relatively inexpensive cut of beef.

mcdonald's· sirloin burger· voiceover· advertising· lisp

1:33:56 By the way, I'm glad we beat them. The Canadians now you have You have Try to get voiceover work Yeah many many times yeah now you can kind of spot a gay voice Okay, yeah doesn't mean the person who's who speaking is gay but yeah? Yeah, but it's a gay voices It's a lispy and affected style of voice Now would you think that that you would take a kind of gay looking guy who's doing a gay voice, or if you want to go that to that. This is stuff that won't be discussed on any sort of mainstream media show. Probably because it involves an advertiser

1:34:39 And it does involve an advertiser, in this case McDonald's. And I was listening to this guy and actually when you see him you don't hear the gayness of his voice so much as when you hear him talk. It is that stereotype gay with a slight lisp. You're going to do this on International Homophobia & Transphobia Day? Don't you think it's time to do it? I think it's the perfect time to do it! And the reason I'm doing it is because why can't you get work as a voiceover guy if this guy can? Hi, I'm Max. McDonald's asked me to remind you that their new sirloin third pound burger won't be around long If you miss out, you'll never know how delicious 100% sirloin tastes That'd be a gosh darn shame So try a sirloin third pound burger before they're gone

1:35:28 Hashtag no regrets. Hashtag sirloin 100% North American Sirloin, 100% limited Try all three sirloin third pound burgers at McDonald's Enjoy this lovin' while it lasts I don't think it sounded that gay It sounds gay. But this is exactly, you're so right! Hashtag sirloin hash... Give me a break who the heck and just say it now we have to I don't know anybody who hasn't had ground sirloin once in their life it's just hamburger yeah yeah yeah it's hamburger that's hamburger yeah it's ground sirloins different part of the animal than most of the hamburgers are just a mix of doubtful it's all sirloin but okay

1:36:15 That would be a pretty expensive burger. Well, it would be. I did... No, sirloin is not an expensive cut! The filet is an expensive cut and you know there's a there's a the sirloin isn't just plain sirloin can be cheap but back to the gay You're just angry that I can't get work in the gay guy cans are what you're saying? He has a lisp. I don't care whether he's gay or not, he could be straight as an arrow but he has a lisp and is distinctive you can hear it in there. And i guarantee you that the briefing for people auditioning said we want hip modern guy not too announcer-y yet determined...and that's what you get! I did one though, I did a voiceover I was asked to do, not paid for, I did a public service announcement which will run

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Amateur Radio Public Service Announcement Recording

A host shares a self-recorded public service announcement for the Ski Country Amateur Radio Club's upcoming "Field Day" on June 27th. The spot encourages the community to visit Missouri Heights to learn about alternative power and emergency communications. The segment serves as a demonstration of professional voiceover work compared to the previously discussed commercial.

amateur radio· field day· ski country amateur radio club· psa· emergency communications

1:37:13 Oh, you have it? I don't have the produced...I have my voiceover not the produced spot. You want to hear it? Yeah! Field Day is when amateur radio operators all over the country use alternative power in order to practice emergency communications It's also a chance for us to show the community what we do and give anyone the chance to try out amateur radio for themselves This year Ski Country Amateur Radio Club will be operating from Missouri Heights just east of El Jebel on June 27th starting at noon Join us and discover ham radio for yourself visit K 0r v. Wordpress comm for directions and more information Doesn't make you want to become a ham radio operator right there? That's the natural voice can you do you have this script around you

1:37:57 What this is the script that I just read yeah, no oh why you want to read it? No. I want you to read it again We have other things a little lisp we have other things to do Just not a big one just a little bit. We have other things to do As predicted like you know what your no fun. All right go on and we're in eight years in and you finally figured it out You know fun. I'm no fun I disagree. This is exactly what was meant to happen, and it's not going to happen again.

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Sentencing and Missing Backpack Video

Legal analysis of the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev death penalty sentence suggests that his defense attorney, Judy Clark, focused on mitigation to avoid execution. The hosts revisit the "missing" surveillance video that allegedly showed Tsarnaev placing the backpack at the bomb site. Despite claims by former Governor Deval Patrick that the video was "chilling," it was never released to the public, leading to skepticism about its existence.

dzhokhar tsarnaev· boston marathon bombing· death penalty· judy clark· deval patrick

1:38:42 He's not going to get executed. No, he's not here is an analysis from a lawyer I think on CNBC which is right in line with what we were talking about as you recall his attorney whose entire career is based on getting people off death row And the way you do that is not... They dropped a ball on the actual case. No, no listen this is an illegal analysis He could deny the act in which case not only was there overwhelming evidence of guilt but a jury would see that he was clearly unremorseful and trying to deny responsibility for which punishment would have been certain

1:39:21 At least this way, she's going for mitigation right from the beginning saying okay we're not contesting that he did the act but you have to understand the context in which this occurred and what was going through his mind at the time. You know realistically we could be talking about 10 years and I think that was part of Judy Clark's argument is that at least if you put this guy a super max for the rest of his life punishment is certain And if you go out and sentence him to death, then you're looking at direct appeals. You're looking at appeals in the Supreme Court. You're looking at writs of habeas corpus and these things take several years each. So if he's ever put to death we could be talking about 10 years from now or there could be a reversal of either the guilt innocence or punishment stage

1:40:06 and the whole thing starts over again. It's pro bono, but that doesn't matter. If she can get this guy not killed, hocky imagine how many people she can be representing? It'll be forgotten in about five years and then they'd let the guy go. Maybe if we find that video that they promised us that existed of him putting the actual backpack into the trashcan which was what the entire prosecution's case was initially based upon Then maybe, maybe. Maybe. Well they didn't...they did have that video! No they didn't they did. They saw it but- I heard that they had it! I don't think they have it. I've heard that they had it

1:40:51 I've heard that because they said they had it. They said they had it, yeah, I know The governor saw it! I know right the governor of Massachusetts said he saw it No no He said he's sure that's right now you're right That's right. He didn't see it either for some reason In fact, I don't think we ever heard from anyone who actually said they saw it They just know that somebody saw well by the time they said that somebody had seen it and had talked about it then there were all kinds of reenactments and documentaries where it actually said in the bottom corner, reenactment. Now here's the Massachusetts governor just to remind everybody of the lie. Is there anything on the videotape that maybe the public hasn't seen about his reaction that was particularly telling? That movie investigation along well the video tape is not something I've seen has been described to me in my briefings

1:41:40 But it does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down. Did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion so a pretty pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly. Chilling! As I've just described to you. How come he didn't ask to see it? Because of national security Well no they could tell him about it They told him about it They described it to him Why didn't why didn't he say I would like to see it? I'm sure he did but It was not appropriate because who saw it Who specifically saw it? Shut up slave

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

MOVE Organization Bombing 30th Anniversary Documentary

The 30th anniversary of the MOVE bombing in Philadelphia is marked by a discussion of the documentary "Let The Fire Burn." The MOVE organization, described by some as a "Black Amish" group and by others as a cult, was involved in a violent standoff with police that resulted in a city-authorized bombing of a residential block. The documentary is recommended for its portrayal of the "creepy" and tragic event.

move· philadelphia· let the fire burn· cult· documentary

1:42:29 Yeah, that's what I thought. After our discussion you're kind of off the wall...I won't even say it was a theory but you said maybe this train derailment was related to the 30th anniversary of the Move bombing which i had not heard of none of my peers had heard of it but I did receive a number recommendations to watch the documentary, Let The Fire Burn. Yeah it's a new documentary on the MOVE. It came out in 2013. That's relatively new and I watched it...it was a 30 year old event. It's really outstanding to watch! I haven't seen the documentary but I've heard good things about it. And MOVE is still active they have OnAMove.com where they still are trying

1:43:19 obtained the release of MOVE members who at the time were convicted and thrown in jail for 30 to... interesting, 30-100 years some of them. But I just wanted to say that it was...it's something you should take a look at. It's really, it's creepy! It's totally creepy. And what is said to me because there was quite a bit of background about what the MOVE organization was which they called an organization and the authorities called it a cult But they really were just about growing their own food and not giving kids technical gadgets to play with. Yeah, it was somewhere like black... some locals call it the Black Amish

1:44:09 Yeah, in a way. And they apparently made a fuss wherever they were too which is annoying to the neighbors. They had a big loudspeaker and they would say... they would have expletives shooting out of the loudspeaker when cops would be- Tourettes! I'm gonna start a new movement, The Tourette's Organization. Fuck you pigs! Yeah can't wait But just a tip, very, very...and sure it's like an hour and 20 minutes maybe less. It is great documentary. It's on Netflix well worth the price of admission. Netflix has a lot of good documentaries. That's their main business I think that's wise. People love documentaries when they start getting into them Yeah you get recommendations about other documentaries yeah it's good. I agree it's really good

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Francois Hollande Caribbean Tour and Haiti Debt Controversy

French President Francois Hollande visited Cuba and Haiti, sparking controversy over historical debts. In Haiti, Hollande made a statement about "settling the debt," which many interpreted as financial reparations for the 150 million gold francs Haiti was forced to pay for its independence in 1825. The French government later clarified that Hollande meant a "moral debt," offering a 50 million euro education program instead of the requested 17 billion euro restitution.

francois hollande· haiti· cuba· reparations· slavery

1:44:58 So, Hollande our buddy in France... Yeah. President Hollande? Apparently went to... He decided to take a run into the Caribbean. I saw this yeah! First he goes to Cuba and then he puts his foot in Haiti and gets himself into trouble but in Cuba that was interesting. I don't have much on that but he's warming up these guys shaking hands with Fidel and his brother Raul. And these guys, you know we've opened the door here. Everyone's going to flock into Cuba this is a time to invest in this place if you can yeah the Canadians have been doing it for years right but they're the ones that are gonna be the big winners when all is said and done but time to send some engines their way time just play play what's going on with whole Oland and this then this isn't very just a funny clip this is a hold on slavery Haiti Cuba The background of this is that

1:45:48 And we have talked about this, I'm a big Haiti fan. It's kind of covered in here. France the French president Francois Hollande in fact becoming the first French president ever to visit Cuba as part of his tour to the Caribbean now he's aimed to get in early as the defrosting of relations between the US and Cuba continues whilst there he met Raoul and Fidel Castro business deals very much to the fore after his visit to Cuba he continued with a visit to Haiti François Hollande's fall on the red carpet wasn't his biggest faux pas in the Caribbean islands. Inaugurating the world's biggest slavery memorial... Oh yeah, hold on a second. He fell on his ass by the way. Face palm? Or face plant or what was it? Yeah, it was his face but I don't think he hit his face but he fell off and he was walking up this red carpet and slipped and just fell right down. Is there video?

1:46:42 Yeah. I'll look for this video, cool. But Loupe the French president made controversial statements about the debt his country owes Haiti. Right. I will settle our debt when i go to Haiti The crowd applauded, but minutes later the French presidential palace issued a rectifying statement. It said Hollande was not referring to money France owed Haiti but to a moral debt due to slavery. Olan was unfamiliar with the history. Probably, and so he said this stupid thing and now that part two explains it in greater detail but it's hilarious because now it's opened up a huge can of worms they can't get out of. In 1804 slaves in Haiti defeated Napoleon soldiers and expelled France slave owners 20 years later France said it would recognize Haiti as an independent country but only if it reimburses slave owners of their lost properties

1:47:43 In the 1825 French decree, King Charles X recognizes Haiti's independence if it paid 150 million gold francs. In the 19th century Haiti paid 120 million gold francs equivalent of 17 billion euros today It represented at the time 10 times its annual public revenue For those who say France has to reimburse Haiti, the debt was legally and morally unjustified. That's why when President Hollande arrived in the country people shouted restitution, reparations yes to money no to moral debt but president Martelly says it is unrealistic to go back on an international agreement sealed 200 years ago If France helps us offer education to almost all Haitians

1:48:35 It would be worth more than any figure. An opinion President Hollande shares, he's offering a 50 million euro program for education saying... What exactly is it? 50 million not 17 billion yeah big difference Yeah what is the definition of moral debt what does that even mean I don't know. I'm not really sure, but you can probably extrapolate what it might mean. He's walking up the steps to the podium and he slips and falls forward...

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

FCC Ruling on Joint Sales Agreements and Local News

The FCC has implemented new rules severely limiting Joint Sales Agreements (JSAs) between local television stations. This move is criticized as an attempt to undermine the financial viability of local news reporting, potentially forcing markets to rely on national cable networks. The discussion compares this to historical Joint Operating Agreements (JOAs) in the newspaper industry, which the hosts argue led to a decline in competitive journalism.

fcc· joint sales agreements· local news· media ownership· newspapers

1:49:14 I like that when it happens. It always humanizes these people, yeah? I like that a lot everybody should do that every yes, it's like the models in the Miss America show fall off their heels. It's hilarious Okay, there's that oh Yeah, I wonder when the FCC came out with a net neutrality ruling There was another ruling they came out with simultaneously, which of course was not discussed. And this is the JSA's, the Joint Sales Agreements and this goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show about local news and what the FCC has determined with their set of rules is that joint sales agreements will be severely limited now the way this works

1:50:10 is even though you may not be able to own multiple, more than was it two television stations? One newspaper. There's all kinds of guidelines for what you as an owner can operate in a market many of the local stations abuse joint sales agreements with competitors often in order to get pieces of the media by. And it actually is worse than that, even with the newspapers as a JOA they call it and it's a joint operating agreement they have

1:50:48 I think it was the Nixon administration, it was getting apparent that American newspapers are not gonna survive against the onslaught. Not of the internet but of television and radio which were covering news better and it was more...it was you know more newsy because they could breaking news, they could put...they can break stop to story. And so all the newspapers somehow managed to get these JOAs in place so they would share revenues, they would share everything. And every town had two newspapers because all we needed is competitive newspapers. And what you ended up with, like in San Francisco had the Examiner in the morning...it was a morning paper and then you have The Chronicle on the afternoon and people stopped reading the after...I'm sorry it's the other way around, The Chronicle was in the morning. People stopped reading the afternoon papers all over the country but broke most of them

1:51:42 Who wants a newspaper in the afternoon? You can just turn on the television, you get the same thing. So afternoon newspapers were all suffering but for some reason the government felt and I think these newspapers felt they always should exist But we can't just have one newspaper in one market because that would be terrible. And so they made these JOAs and the weak sister of the newspapers, in this case it was The Examiner would get half of the profits of the other newspaper. Oh, that's even...that's really operating? This is purely on ad sales. Yeah well this was I think it ended up all...it always ends up on ad sales anyway but yeah I don't know if they did...the subscriber money got split

1:52:20 But it ruined the newspaper. Now these guys not only had...they didn't have any reason to compete, so they started writing about food and wine and personal interest. They would never...nobody would go to see... That's when your career started apparently? Yeah! Well the FCC is trying to combine the duopoly rule which is about the eight voices test for local broadcast stations but is already putting local stations out of business they just can't afford to have the sales force on the street and certainly not getting national advertising. And if you look at the makeup of, obviously...just look at the FCC in general who's steering this ship, this is a very blatant attempt to screw all local news reporting into oblivion—just get it out there and have it all revert to cable news or networks I guess.

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Insects in School Lunches and Exo Protein Marketing

A student at Caney Creek High School discovered "ginormous" bugs in school-provided broccoli, identified by administrators as aphids. This incident is linked to a broader cultural push toward entomophagy, exemplified by companies like Exo Protein marketing crickets as "the new kale." One host recounts a personal anecdote from high school journalism involving a fly found in a sealed cafeteria sandwich.

aphids· crickets· exo protein· school lunch· entomophagy

1:53:19 It's interesting. Well, the whole thing has been interesting all along and it's just ruining it for everybody we have a dumbed down public combined with the educational system that doesn't care about any of this stuff. Yeah, I just wants kids to you know be have high self-esteem so they... And! The whole thing is a wreck. And we want to have kids eating bugs Eating bugs or saying hile apple Here is the latest in kind of reverse psychology move you're looking at a picture of bugs and the broccoli Of a student who almost ate them at Caney Creek High School in Conroe. It was kinda

1:53:56 Strange and gross that we had actually seen in that it happened to us Fallon Evans says she was sitting next to her friend at lunch in the cafeteria At Caney Creek Monday just as the friend was about to take a bite of the broccoli. They noticed the bugs The family says they were told the insects were aphids, and there's no way What is that aphid? What does that? Aphids are these little white bugs, they're very small. They fly around and they kind of sap the strengths because they exist in billions and they accept the strength. But they're small? Very small. Aphids! And there's no way... They could have missed

1:54:33 picking up a handful of broccoli like they do with their gloves on and not seeing these ginormous bugs. Oh my favorite word! Ginormous bugs, I tell you. In an email to parents school administrators said they were notified this morning of complaints regarding food in the cafeteria Any concerns are taken very seriously and Conroe ISD's Child Nutrition Department is addressing the situation. and I'm seeing it now everywhere. People, this is the new mac and cheese in fact here it is exoprotein dot com e x o p r o t e i n Exo protein right there on the home page It says...and I think they stole this from you Crickets are the New Kale! That's right crickets are the new kale everybody! Bugs! Bugs bugs bugs

1:55:49 Sounds like the pervert singing that song. Yeah, I'm seeing packages of crickets cricket flower Oh, oh yum It's not gonna stop bugs It's a great source of protein just like kale is a great source of vitamin K Great sources something like that yeah I was just eating gum. Love it! Yeah, the bug thing is going to continue. Well... Thoughts about it but I can't think of what they were talking about with the kids in school eating them all yeah I got my career at my start in journalism because of that was in high school because of bugs

1:56:40 I think so. And we're doing, and I got to be one of the editors of the or I guess it was the investigative reporter for the newspaper, the school kids' newspaper. If you were just guessing that, then you might not have been in there. I don't remember what I was because everyone just kind of did what they did but I was the guy who's going make the paper get better circ. Right So I found a... They used to make sandwiches in the cafeteria And they would put the sandwich in some device and it would seal it. So, it was like a little electrical thing and it would seal it with some plastic. And in one of the sandwiches there was a fly just sealed right there at the top of the sandwich. We took photos of this fly and we ran our big front page headline on the newspaper

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Credits and Global Donations

The hosts read a comprehensive list of "No Agenda" producers who contributed to episode 722. Notable mentions include Stephen McConnell, who donated despite his wife's green card issues in China, and various international donors from Australia, Germany, and the UK. The segment reinforces the show's listener-supported model and acknowledges the "stalwart supporters" who fund the production.

crowdfunding· producers· china· australia· germany

1:57:36 fly and sandwich in cafeteria sandwich, with the big photo right on the front page and the arrow. And they shut the paper down because of this and scolded us. Really? Yeah then they resumed publication like a couple weeks later. What school was this? This was Newark High School which has since been moved it's not even the same place anymore But yeah, it was a big scandal. Well we're not eating bugs yet but we're not far off. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda! Imagine all the people who could do that? Oh yeah that'd be fab! On NO AGENDA! Morning! We have a few people to thank for Show 722 starting with Zachary Gilbreck in Cordova

1:58:35 Tennessee, one two three four five. One of my favorite donations anything that goes like that would be a favorite of mine now of course Ryan Ferguson Foothill Ranch California $100 Thomas Gaskin Parts Unknown hundred dollars Peter McConnell Stockholm, New Jersey $100. By the way if anyone sent a check in I have not picked checks up for awhile because I was not around Peter McConnell in Stockholm New Jersey and he's actually not at Stockholm New Jersey If you read his little notices and China reading is from Suzhou China nice I would I Would be remiss if I did not thank producer Stephen McConnell for the Fletcher donation to the podcast and the ensuing McConnell shout

1:59:15 Which is funny. You got the freebie, freebie! I'm honest and humbled to share this surname with such a stalwart supporter of the show." My wife's green card... He says my wife's green card applications have been effectively stalled because the State Department's unusable website. We cannot literally pay the remaining fee and therefore cannot continue the process. I think we might be stuck in China forever So DH Slammer, $100. Arthur Thompson in San Jose California, $100 Wayne Lacombe and Sunnybank Hills Queensland Australia $100 Kevin McLaughlin Locust North Carolina very funny name for a place. 73 73 73 73 73 James Gokal in California City California which I've commented on before

2:00:13 It's kind of a some renamed town in the middle of nowhere. $16 and 16 cents. Yeah, he needs karma coming up for you. Sure Mike Gates in Colorado Springs 60 dollars and one cents now He says I just blow this money on Starbucks so I decided to give it to you guys instead That's Von Glitchka Oh, I'm sorry. I'm reading ahead You're right that's fun glitch can Salem Oregon who said that? And I think that's not a bad idea It was, I believe... That could be a lot of money. Well yeah! Coffees are too expensive to scam you should just buy some instant coffee and

2:00:57 Figure out the cost. Oh, yum sir Mike guess you know good instant coffee is not bad if you get them stuff from Mexico You should get Mexican instant coffee I'm taking it actually is quite good and the one I like currently is legal Mm-hmm L EG AL sir Mike gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado $60 in one cent Vonaglitchka. I'm sorry we back to them Vonaglitchka 60 Donner Donald cool in Windham New Hampshire 56 78 He has a douchebag call-out, I believe. Brian Mancuso and David White are douchebags! A lot of people don't listen... or a lot of people live... a lot of people don't listen. Let's face it. A lot of people listen and don't donate leaving it up to us regulars to foot the bill. Douchebags to them all! Yes, I say... Okay so screw the freeloaders

2:01:51 Mark Magpio in Cerritos, California. Double nickels on the dime Scott Walderher in Madison Wisconsin I think is a Knight 5510 Patrick Coble and Fairview Tennessee Sir Patrick Coble to you 5510 been on flying around for about a month with his Ducati Did you see that we have our No Agenda guy back on the road, on his bike? Sir Andrew. Yeah! With the No Agenda Racing Team I know. I retweeted that picture Me too We are the only ONLY podcast with a racing team This is true We may be the only alternative news source with a racing team I believe this is absolutely the case Jared Glidewell from Muncie Pennsylvania Do we have hot babes in The Pits

2:02:46 I don't know. I haven't seen one should go to a race maybe and find out he's got a birthday call out Sean Carlson Fresno, California 5150 and then we have our palindrome donors 5115 we got Roger Etsy in Palm Harbor Florida and sir Clark of the Carolinas in Stanley North Carolina Eric Nolan McDonough Georgia Eric Brun in West St.. Paul Minnesota nuts Norman Pearson in Macon, Georgia. I've been to Macon, Georgia it's a very fascinating place and it's kind of like an old-fashioned place William...I'd never seen so many bugs in my life. And we love bugs! There was a there..I was thinking about this putting into play there was a gas station in Macon, Georgia and it was late so that the bugs were out and they had a buncha these bug lights

2:03:42 And they were just sparking away like crazy. Zap zap zap, yeah. And there was a foot high pile of bugs and forming a cone... And you thought to yourself breakfast. Good eating! Breakfast So there's this foot-high pile maybe two foot high pile of a cone shaped pile of dead bugs that were just from this electrocuter That's my Megan George at hand again. Great, thank you! William Law the Young in Lebanon Tennessee Adam Willis in Washington DC, Aaron Rush and Avon South Dakota we want to thank these folks for their 5115 donation. David Oliver in San Francisco over here in California Nils Bonneker in Hamburg Deutschland

2:04:31 Richard Chow in Fullerton, California. Matthew Davis in Garden Groves, California. Steve Edwards and somewhere Ohio W Door Limited which is two times he's sent in 51 fifth twice. He's in Lexington Kentucky so go buy a door from him he says one for each of us that was kind of nice say Richard Marshall in New York City, 51-15. Blake Morphis in Warwick, Rhode Island. We got a lot of these. Jeff Anderson is Stewart Florida. Carlos Martinez and Brownsville Texas. Sam Lung in Toronto, Sir Sam, of course, in Toronto Ontario David Jandru in Victoria BC best city on the West Coast Jason Stewart in O'Fallin Missouri

2:05:30 Mark Dunford in good ol' Waco, Texas. And finally Brandon Stewart in Dallas, Texas along with Rathkamp Drums LLC in Ripon, Wisconsin. We have a birthday shout out for Brandon too by the way it's coming up. Yeah I got it all on the list. For two do you have both of them on there? Brandon and Cynthia? Let me double check I'm pretty sure. And finally, Cynthia Brandon. Cynthia. Yeah yeah and finally $50 donors from Paul Rudkin in Shanghai China hello China hello Beef a lot to push beef a lot to push in Bay City Michigan. Yeah yeah you Steph Gazi in Westland Michigan Jules

2:06:26 Daruin in Savannah, Georgia. Matthew Mungan in Baltimore Maryland Donald Goguen? Go-guen? Gogan? It could be Gogan. In Westminster Massachusetts. Jeffrey... Oh this is another guy who lives in Hellevutus! Hellevutsluts. Hellevutsluts. Exactly Jeffrey Lentjes. Come on, you can do better than that and this is... Jeffrey Lentjes! Lentjes! Lentjes. Lentjes, that's close

2:07:10 David McClain in Cuba, Missouri. Rosalind Furness and Turnbridge Wells Kent. Amitav Hajra in Daleville Virginia. John Camp in Antlers Oklahoma another great name for a town Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Great name for a guy Heather Fucinari in Santa Ana California Chris Sir Chris Lewinsky and Sherwood Park Alberta Patrick Thomas in, whoops! Just jumped. Petworth West Sussex and finally Eric Dunn in Flint Michigan as well as Jerome Ross and Gwynne Oak Maryland I want to thank all these folks for helping us get over the top here on shows 722. And based upon your newsletter that you sent out we had a couple of recommendations a couple people wanted to highlight first of all a recommendation I thought was interesting

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Podcast Metrics and the Nielsen Rating Belief System

A discussion on podcasting business models addresses the difficulty of tracking listener data. The hosts argue that traditional Nielsen ratings are a "belief system" or "religion" rather than an accurate tracking system. They reject the idea of implementing intrusive logging for "No Agenda," preferring to remain unaware of exact listener numbers rather than compromising privacy for the sake of metrics.

nielsen ratings· podcast metrics· advertising· data tracking· belief system

2:08:06 is a number of people said, you know what? You should go off the air for two weeks. Yeah, and I'm like well... I wonder how far we'd have to go. This is like a bad idea! Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that I have rent to pay. It's also called dead air. Never a good idea. No, no, but we do take one or two shows off a year. But they're filled with something so people can listen to them Let me see, this is from... Actually I wonder if this was really a true suggestion. Hey! I got an idea for you guys. Just drop the show Yeah well the idea was so people would be they would see what it's like to be without us yeah yeah that's what we don't want them to see because they might find out I get fine by flying without them hey I don't miss those motherfuckers at all I have all this extra time on my hands

2:09:08 Precisely. John Adam, this is from contributing producer Gerard van de Brink I've added an extra one-time donation of $33.33 to my next monthly subscription of 11.11 and from time to time I will keep posting extra donations when i can thank you for producing the show lighting up my commute or when I'm gardening with humor and insight Thank you for your courage And another one... This is from Josh I have cancelled my five dollar PayPal monthly subscription and started one for ten bucks a month Pretty sure this is going to make tracking my lame ass accounting more difficult, but that's fine. I'm not making night anytime soon unfortunately. I can't drop executive producer money on you guys but at least i'm throwing in something no reason to change the show people are just being cheap! I want to call out every listener that doesn't have a monthly payment set up as douchebags. I don't care if you're a knight baron or grand duke if you don't have a monthly payment setup for at least five bucks a month you're doing it wrong thank you for your courage he says

2:10:07 I thought it was very nice. And I thought so, it's very nice and appreciate that then thank you helps too some people just can't afford to push themselves of the big money but they give they help they do they're part of the no agenda family and the family is vast people always ask me how many who are listening? I don't know we have no idea You can tell how many people are in the chatroom, that's about it. That's it and how many people open the newsletter but... Yeah you can do that too Unless we have some severe system of logging-in there is no way you can track who was listening or not and quite honestly doesn't really matter as long as we... There something to start a technology this is business we should get some of our techies

2:10:49 dudes named Ben, you'll get to start thinking and find some way of tracking and actually doing a Nielsen on podcasts. It's not possible. It's got to be. No it's not... Look we don't even know who is watching television the Nielson that you said it Nielsen says this is the number everybody believes it. It's a belief system, not attracting systems. It's beliefs! Nielsen... yeah ratings are a belief system. It's actually a religion Yeah I'd say that's exactly what it is. Devorak dot org slash NA A little bit of jobs karma for everybody who needs it? Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You suck Karma Alright everybody

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Dave Doctor Viv

David Fugazato is officially knighted as "Sir Dave Doctor Viv" for his contribution of $1,000 to the show. As part of the "No Agenda Roundtable" ceremony, he is granted a symbolic feast of pork ribs and pale ale. The hosts provide instructions for the new knight to claim his ring via the No Agenda Nation website.

knighting· no agenda roundtable· sir dave· pork ribs· pale ale

2:11:36 That was it. Evan Stewart says happy birthday to his son Klaus Travis, turned 16. Norman Pearson happy birthday to Jason Lewis of Macon Georgia Brandon and Cynthia Stewart turning 32 and 30 respectively on May 21st Jared Gladwell says happy birthday to Muppet Ben Fawzi who celebrated on the 15th And Sir David Fugazato says Happy Birthday to his wife Melody She'll be celebrating on the 19th of may Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcasting Universe! And that includes... Eric The Shill Happy birthday, Eric When is he celebrating exactly didn't put it on the list tomorrow ah So nice and just to show you care. You you said hey man put him on the list that was nice Well, he should put himself on the list yeah He's a shy shy that way we have one nighting today

2:12:35 David Fugazato, come on up to the podium my friend. Thank you very much for your support of the best podcast in the universe and the amount of $1,000 or more that entitles you sir to become a knight of The Noah Jenner Roundtable and I hereby pronounce the K the Sir Dave Dr. Viv! And for you as requested we have Pork Ribs & Pale Ale, Hoopers & Bloat, Rent Boys & Chardonnay Johnny Walker Green Label Video Games & Vaporizers Puppies & Tailors Vintage Port Vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon. And always mutton and mead! Go to noagendannation.com slash rings input all your info Eric wanted me say that you do not get a confirmation automatically but unless there's something that he needs oftentimes people forget their address strangely enough just fill out the form properly and he will ship it off to you ASAP Thank You everybody for keeping us going on the show another show on Thursday

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

EMF Radiation Health Risks and Columbia University Petition

Dr. Martin Blank of Columbia University and 160 colleagues have petitioned the UN and WHO regarding the health risks of electromagnetic field (EMF) radiation from cell phones and Wi-Fi. The scientists claim that current safety limits are insufficient and that rising exposure is damaging human DNA and contributing to cancer rates. One host shares a personal experience of receiving a minor RF burn from a magnetic loop antenna.

emf· radiation· columbia university· dna damage· martin blank

2:13:35 Same, no agenda station and time. Yes contact your internet provider please do. I thought this was rather interesting it's kind of second half of the show stuff but not really well we're at the second half of the show yeah i know but it's funnier when When something's a conspiracy, it gets funnier than when actual scientists talk about something. It gets a little annoying and I don't know if it's really second half of the show. Is this got to do with flying saucers? Not entirely... So not worth it really! All right yeah! There has been an appeal sent to the United Nations on behalf of a number of scientists

2:14:33 And this is regarding electromagnetic field exposure, primarily from Wi-Fi devices and cell phones or smartphones I guess you would say. Now we've talked about this and as certainly early on in the show when 4G was just getting rolled even 3g maybe but certainly 4G that there was no real conclusive studies that have been done about what what this EMF can do to the human body. And the conspiracy, completely written off as a conspiracy theory is that this radiation specifically from third or fourth generation cell phone technology and Wi-Fi is affecting our DNA. Do you recall any of that?

2:15:25 Of course. Crackpots! Radio waves going through us 24-7 no matter where we live, why would this be any different? This is a doc... He's a professor from the Department of Physiology and Cellular Biophysics at Columbia University I'd say Columbia University is a reputable outfit. Well known! Despite, you know Obama going there but otherwise reputable outfit and they have over 100 scientists have sent in a petition to the United States... United Nates

2:16:02 United Nations and the World Health Organization, and I have a clip! Cell phones tablets Wi-Fi etc. Putting it bluntly they are damaging the living cells in our bodies and killing many of us prematurely. I'm Dr Martin Blank from the Department of Physiology and Cellular Biophysics at Columbia University. I am also a member of The Hair Club for Men It is distressing for me and more than 160 colleagues who today are petitioning the United Nations requesting that they address this problem We are scientists and engineers, and I am here to tell you we have created something that is harming us. And it is getting out of control

2:16:40 Before Edison's light bulb, there was very little electromagnetic radiation in our environment. The levels today are very many times higher than natural background levels and are growing rapidly because of all the new devices that emit this radiation We're putting cellular antennas on residential buildings and on top of hospitals where people are trying to get well Wireless utility meters and cell towers are blanketing our neighborhoods with radiations It's particularly frightening that radiation from our telecommunication and powerline technology is damaging the DNA in our cells. It is clear to many biologists that this can account for the rising cancer rates. Future generations, our children are at risk. The biological facts are being ignored and as a result the safety limits are much too high they are not protective

2:17:31 More protection will probably result from full disclosure of possible conflicts of interest between regulators and industry. Rising exposure to electromagnetic radiation is a global problem. The World Health Organization and international standard-setting bodies are not acting to protect the public's health and well being Although we are still in the midst of great technological transformation, the time to deal with harmful biological and health effects is long overdue We're really all part of large biological experiment without our informed consent Yeah, you'll see a lot of that reported on the news. You know... You'll see nothing of that reported on the news! And why would anybody report it on the news with all these sprint ads? An apple! An apple, hail Apple! Hail Apple! But I feel this is a pretty legit petition they've put in. At least people think so. Well there's an awful lot cases of brain cancer

2:18:35 going around, it seems to me. And so a lot of people in tech and a lot of people who are PR women... Well that'll solve a couple of problems in one go. It will solve vocal fry. With the phone to their ear 24-7 yak yak yak. I don't think you necessarily have to have the phone to your ear. No but I think as close proxy taking a radio transmitter and putting it against your head I mean you've heard of an RF burn? I've actually received a minor RF burn. Wow, really?! From low wattage on the mag loop! I had 8 watts... I have the magnetic loop antenna Oh yeah? Yeah. You got a burn from it?

2:19:15 Yeah. I was 8 watts, JT65 and I brushed against it and... It wasn't enough to really char the skin but if i'd left it there for a second longer would have been and that's highly concentrated Does it hurt? It's jarring little like whoa! Well you think it was 5000 watt what do you think of the I couldn't even stand next to it was five thousand once I wouldn't stand next to it That's also not illegal amount for amateur radio operators But this is get five thousand up to ten no No, you should review. No I need the review yes, I know so we can get my general needs Yes, I am a general and I X wattage You're a general I believe one kilowatt but there are instances where two-and-a-half kilowatts are possible but it depends on the band

2:20:13 But when you have a power output is 1500 watts there you go, but when you're up there in the and high gigahertz frequencies You can get it RF can get a little wiggy. That's a fine That's what my parents used to say we remember that week oh he's wiggy He's wigging out wiggy it could be a little screwy wiggy wiggy Now I'm concerned about this. I don't want brain cancer. That's a day no of course not nobody does today record is no good Thought it was worth mentioning. Yeah, no I... yeah no hey! Amen fist bump. Precisely It's bad. Okay. Okay. I have more of you go ahead. You have more? Go hit it. Well I was going to talk about the drone regulations these uh I was doing airplane stuff anyway and there was a

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

FAA Drone Regulations and Line-of-Sight Restrictions

The FAA's recently released regulations for small unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) effectively prohibit long-distance commercial drone delivery. Key rules include a 55-pound weight limit, a 500-foot altitude ceiling, and a strict requirement for the operator to maintain a direct line of sight with the drone. These restrictions suggest that hyped projects like Amazon Prime Air are currently not legally viable in the United States.

faa· drones· uas· line of sight· amazon prime air

2:21:11 I found a really interesting blog, and i'll post a link to it in the show notes of a bunch of constitutional lawyers who blog about you know constitutional issues. And one of their issues was that the drone regulations do not adhere to the first amendment. That by itself is not so interesting but I went into the FAA's recently released operating and certification of small unmanned aircraft systems. And you have to understand that you're pretty much able to do shit with your drone

2:21:47 And I was not aware of all of the different regulations, but... I don't even know what you meant by that. Drone regulations? No! You're not able to do shit with your drone does that mean you can do...? Yeah. You pretty much can't do anything you think is cool with it. I'll explain. You can't do anything that's okay- That's a little better than confusing me with that. So this is for light drones under 55 pounds, which I find to be quite a high limit as is. And getting 55 pounds on your noggin would not be nice. You all the operator always has to be in line of sight of the drone so you can't just fly this thing and view it through your remote camera. But you can have an observer while you're operating but you cannot daisy chain observers. So it can only be one observer and it has to be line-of-sight no more than three statute miles

2:22:41 And you have to have three statute miles visibility to fly it, no higher than 500 feet and never over human beings who are not directly related to the drone operation. That pretty much excludes you from doing anything with your drone except flying it around your house The only exception is Class G airspace. You're allowed to go up to 1,500 feet with permission from Air Traffic Control and Class G airspace... well that actually as a class G is up to I think 700 within the aerodrome and 1500 just outside of it but they will only be with ATC permission that's pretty much only for testing purposes for drone manufacturers but it turns out

2:23:25 there's nothing, you know. There's not going to be any Amazon drones flying around dropping off your packages none of this will be possible without um... if you go above the 55 pound limit and they have not even begun to publish what they want on that but then you're kind in warfare territory. Well I think this is good! I agree i'm all..I think i'm very happy i'm very annoyed by this whole drone thing Huh, well that ends this one little company. That lifey drone What was that? That's a cute one of you throw in the air and it follows you around If if you have line-of-sight it's okay I don't did you think that thing is real but no I don't know but they're round here someone will find out yeah But for once I definitely a cool idea or once I was happy me all these people with their drones are So happy and oh look at a cool drawing this is dangerous dangerous

2:24:23 No, it is dangerous. If you ever fly one of the little ones around your house you'd realize how dangerous it is. Well we both received one and that's pretty much the only drone I've ever flown. Well that's the one... It's a high-end drone in a small package Yes My son knows how to calibrate him so he got the thing working He gotta calibrate it before you try to drive it very far Let's see, what else you got Johnny boy? Well I've got a couple of things. You know there is bunch of...I was thinking about this with all the so called refugee or... No they're not refugees they are tourists and ones coming from Africa yeah they are tourists They finally gotten to the point where their calling them refugees because EU wants to take action and one other thing that they want to do is that they have all these guys coming over

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EU Migrant Quota Plan and Country Exemptions

The European Commission has proposed a controversial national quota plan to redistribute 200,000 refugees across the EU over the next two years. The plan aims to relieve the burden on Italy and Greece, with Germany and France expected to take the largest shares. However, the UK, Ireland, and Denmark are notably exempt from the quota plan under existing EU law, leading to internal political friction.

european union· migrant crisis· quotas· italy· greece

2:25:19 And they're being taken mostly by about four countries and then jumping around going from place to place. Nobody wants them, all these refugees from North Africa and Africa and Libya and places like that. So the EU has decided to take a may develop a quota plan. So every one of the countries has to take a couple of them, with the French and Germans taking the most... And the Brits don't want them at all! They don't wanna be part of this. No but the Brits actually have some but the Brits are exempt from that. Now you listen to this report and the reason I wanna play this is because there's exemptions And why are these countries exempt when the other countries have to, like Poland has to take these refugees? Play this. In Europe the controversy over migration continues That's right and a lot of papers are focusing on a blueprint that was put forward by the European Commission for the EU to deal with the migration crisis and it includes very controversial plan for national quotas you can see Le Fillejo in the French paper here calling it an explosive proposal that EU wants to share the burden

2:26:22 processing asylum claims. Currently, Italy and Greece are really bearing the brunt of the migrant surge and they're struggling to cope so the Commission essentially wants other EU countries to pull their weight by accepting these quotas of refugees The plan is to bring 200 000 refugees to Europe in the next two years Now Liberation, another French paper also focusing on this quota system solidarity by-quotas but what would it actually mean? The quotas would take into consideration the population, wealth and unemployment rate in each EU country. So according to this blueprint France would absorb 11.9% of migrants Germany 15.4%. There are some very notable absences under EU law that UK Ireland and Denmark would be exempt from this quota plan. Under UK or under the EU law

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Denmark's War on Cash and Digital Currency Transition

Denmark is moving toward becoming a cashless society, with the central bank planning to stop printing physical currency in 2016. New regulations will allow shop owners to refuse cash payments in favor of digital tenders. Critics argue that a cashless system allows governments to monitor all transactions, prevent bank runs, and enforce negative interest rates to manipulate consumer spending.

denmark· cashless society· negative interest rates· bitcoin· central bank

2:27:12 Ireland, UK and Denmark are exempt from what? From the plan but what other things are they exempt from. Well I know Denmark is trying to be exempt from cash Have you been following this? No, not really. There's a number of war on cash articles out this week the Denmark I guess would be the Danish central bank Nationalbanken will be discontinuing the printing of new fiat money in 2016 They'll be outsourcing the money. That is very unclear if they're going to print much of it, they say the reasoning is more and more people are using digital payment systems such as cards online payments third-party platforms then to a certain extent cryptocurrency and as of this new regulation 2016 shop owners may will be allowed to refuse to accept tenders such as notes and coins

2:28:11 And of course everybody's all in, it makes so much sense. Oh yeah! Be all in! And along with this comes... This is from Germany The guys name is Peter Bolshevik All your money is now controlled by the government Well they first want to get rid of the 500 euro notes because drug dealers etc. But now in the UK this has even been floated Who was this? This was from Norway right around the corner From Denmark And... Not in EU country, of course. No. But this entire article says hey you know if we really want to end the boom and bust economy we should ban cash. How does that have anything to do with the boom and bust? It's a business cycle it's not a cash versus credit cycle! But it's a great way to explain to people

2:29:08 why you need to take your money away. Oh yeah, it's a bull crap ex...oh well we're doing it because oh let me think oh because of the boom and bust! We won't have the problem with economic stability The Danish move could be a key movement in the advent of cashless societies and once all money exists only in bank accounts monitored or even directly controlled by the government The authorities will be able to encourage us to spend more when the economy slows or spend less when it is overheating. That is the rationale. How does that work? You will spend more, or we will spend it for you! There used to be an old saying amongst... there's a commercial going around that uses this old saying, oh ya know money won't spend itself. Apparently it will! That's a Geico commercial I think

2:29:58 Yeah, it is. It's a cute commercial. I caught my attention. Here's what I'm thinking though in todays and many economies we have you know of course there is always some inflation so that where your money becomes less powerful but on the back end we have negative interest rates so you may have to pay the bank for having electronic money. And of course, it completely eliminates bank runs I think that's probably the number one reason why the apparatus would like this. Yeah you run the bank for what? Just a number on a sheet! You're just a number on a balance sheet and there's your money yeah once your money is right there...there it is. Now but you get companies country well company This is the stupidest idea any public that would buy into this idea

2:30:53 is crazy. Well, you remember who the happiest people are on earth? The day... They're obviously drugged! There you go! They're so happy they're giving up their cash and thinking oh take my cash I don't care i don't need that and now i'm also kind of thinking well maybe all the whole bitcoin bonanza and hype had something to do with it To get people really excited about digital money And there's big excitement from a very influential crowd And we're seeing all kinds of investments in, in fact the my ex banker from New York friend

2:31:31 He was talking about, I think we mentioned it briefly. This is kind of a hot new business you get a network of professionals with certain expertise and you farm that out to companies and people who want to have information, want to have analysis certainly banks have... Everyone's kinda figured out that sell side analysis i.e., And I saw this myself when I ran a public company so the underwriter takes your public which is a bank they will put an analyst and the analyst will write about your company. You're pretty much in cahoots with the analyst, so he's never saying these guys suck and you don't want to invest in them."

2:32:11 So everybody knows that this type of analysis is rigged and now these little groups of people are being put together to farm out, to people who are very interested in real analysis. And the number one, the top analyst being sought right now is Bitcoin experts So I'm thinking this is, whether it's a coincidental and nice happenstance or whether it was set up and hyped accordingly. Why do you get a bunch of flack when I moan about Bitcoin? Yeah, I don't care. That's what these analyst groups would do. Uh-oh that guy's gonna ruin it for everybody! Send him a nasty note. You don't get it Dvorak! Quit! You're old! Do you have dementia?!

2:33:02 Hail Apple. happiest people in the world. Yeah, they're split up with so much ridiculous taxes... No no no! They're happy! Everything's great! The way the country is run is so great they are happy. Yeah and their very happy and there happy go lucky and they are going to cashless and stay happy-go-lucky you know? Hey hey how ya doing? And people will be like look at Denmark I mean they won't do it with Portugal and its legalization of drugs nobody holds them up and says

2:33:40 Look, it works. It works fantastic! We should all do what they're doing." No. But they'll do it with Denmark. Selective... Oh there you go. They fell for it. Now people are like, come on I see this the Netherlands? Pin only? One good market crash and people or something's bank goes under all their accounts get frozen they can't get their money out because they can't spend it because there's no you know just erased Let's erase his wealth. He is not complying, he is somewhat belligerent. Yeah that's the other thing... Let's stop his money! We owe money we take it and we see this frequently with PayPal holding funds for whatever reason checking on somebody seeing if it's okay cancelling cancelling subscriptions saying it's our fault I mean these are all things that when you hand someone some money it's clear it's done

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San Quentin State Prison Real Estate Development Proposal

Proponents are suggesting that California sell the San Quentin State Prison property for private development, potentially raising over $2 billion. The prime waterfront real estate in Marin County is currently occupied by the aging fortress-style prison. The proposal envisions replacing the "grim" facility with high-end residential or commercial developments for the "Silicon Valley douchebag" demographic.

san quentin· california· real estate· prison reform· ktvu

2:34:39 So even just so just imagine the government doing it. Yeah, exactly. Imagine PayPal as the government handling all the money but Elon Musk there you go yeah okay I got one more clip this i just thought was interesting because I think it's a good idea kind of but at the other hand is like well I don't know play this and Quentin clip Monday on the 10 o'clock news raising up to two billion dollars or more without any new taxes if you could get through kindergarten You could figure out this is what we ought to be doing The idea is to sell San Quentin and develop this prime waterfront real estate hands down. No

2:35:27 Nope. No. Why proponents say now is the time to put the penitentiary on the market and what about all the prisoners? San Quentin State Prison, should it stay or should it go? Monday in The 10 O'Clock News on KTBU Fox 2 So there's... What are they doing Well, I don't know how to wait for the 10 o'clock news. It's a teaser! But as soon as they said it, that was the logical thing. San Quentin is over here across the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge and it's on a tip of...I think it's in town of Tiburon if I'm not mistaken? And it's on the tip of this area that is just kind of grim because this ugly prison there is horrible. It's old and its got the towers and every time you go across this bridge you have to go right past this prison.

2:36:12 range... oh no, that's Alcatraz. I'm sorry. Yeah, Sanquin. Alcatraz is different and you have to go past this giant prison which is just grim and it's creepy Is it not used? Yeah! It's filled with a bunch of criminals Oh okay that would be good use for the prison Yes, yes you do And most of the prisons they build nowadays are these They're not built like fortresses, they're built with just a lot of wire barbed wire. They are more like a prisoner-of-war camp than modern prisons and they are also modern inside they got regular doors it's a different look because you see a lot documentaries that go in and out these prisons San Quentin really should have been torn down years ago but I never thought about it being developed into some ritzy

2:36:55 some ritzy place for yuppies, or not a yuppies anymore but whatever the next generation of rich kids are. Silicon Valley guys. Douchebags. Douchebags and I can see it but its gotta be worth at least two billion dollars that property is huge and its right on the water overlooking San Francisco and everything. So yeah its good money in the bank? Yeah money in the bank. Money in the bank printout I just thought that was interesting they might do this. I think they will, who the hell needs a prison there? Last thing i wanted to mention...I am of course following the Eurovision Song Contest! Oh yes you know this is got to be one of my favorite events and I would like to look at some possible winners as we know the Eurovision contest is not based at all on talent that's obvious um it's politics as usual

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Eurovision Song Contest 2015 Predictions and Politics

The hosts preview the 2015 Eurovision Song Contest, noting that winners are often chosen based on political narratives rather than musical talent. Predictions include a potential win for Armenia as a gesture regarding the Armenian Genocide, or Finland's punk band composed of members with Down Syndrome. The segment highlights the "scam" nature of the international competition.

eurovision· armenia· finland· denmark· conchita wurst

2:37:56 We had correctly identified, I believe Conchita Wurst and this year... well of course we have Finland which is the Down Syndrome punk band as a possible winner. Then we have Serbia and the artist from Serbia is Bojana Staminov and she is a BBW you're familiar with this term? I presume. A big woman! Big yeah big beautiful woman And... Is she beautiful? Yeah, all women are beautiful John. But she's a plus size I would say you know the plus size is... A double-plus? Double or triple-plus? She's a double-plusser. Single bagger double plusser Then we have Hungary's entry Boggy and her song is Wars for Nothing possible but I'm going to put my money initially and I have not even seen all of them because I love watching and listening

2:38:57 I think the entry from Armenia has the best shot when it comes to... You want to use your rationale? Armenia, yeah! Because they get no love on the genocide. So we give them a win don't you think well I think Denmark is going to win. Because they're cashless? No, because the name of their group is the Anti-Social Media. Oh no it's not. Social media! No, no...I shall not play that. I'm not gonna do it. It's too much. That actually came from an email and I win

2:39:41 This guy writes in, he says when Adam brings up Eurovision on the next show it goes on. He says this will crack him up! It will make him laugh! And I said... I doubt it! No no not cracking up. He says a guaranteed laugh. No no didn't work. This is William Eby. Well you should never ever accept email from him. Block him block him. You are blocked! Just block him. Block him I tell ya. Didn't work Alright everybody. I think you might be right about Armenia, that makes sense. I think Armenia would be the right call. Well it's still a scam but your saying this is a scam! Isn't it always?

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No Agenda Outro and "By The Way" Compilation

The episode concludes with the standard sign-off from Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. A special audio montage is played, featuring a repetitive compilation of the hosts and various news clips using the phrase "by the way." The show ends with a humorous Joe Biden audio clip and a final "amen fist bump."

adam curry· john c dvorak· by the way· podcast outro· joe biden

2:40:23 Yes. Well, happy International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia John C. Dvorak And coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state In the crackpot condo in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Man from Northern Silicon Valley where... I don't know what to tell ya I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA we'll be right here On no agenda And by the way, it falls right into my thesis so hit it.

2:41:07 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak And by the way... Yes? Oh I agree with that and by the way what you're mentioning is we're gonna bring up that complaint and by the way when i went to meet with these or hung out with actually went to one of the parties so here's what I see happening Johnson got put in and by the way he's out in 2016 this is a short-term thing This is the biggest load of crap By the way we have this is why they should be and by the way they don't just do it to the Russians Americans. Because every other news story currently is about some cop and by the way... By the way, these uber sources segments are purely informational and for entertainment purposes All the rest of it and all as he's talking And by the way a little side note to this And we know that black people

2:41:56 hit their children upside the head. By the way, officially it doesn't count by the way if he was you want to be technical you could just all in...by the way this is how great the commercial is and by the way how's your head any ended? And by the way if you haven't noticed and I'm sure everyone has yeah and by the way I have never seen the inside of the German Parliament so we know decimation wrong by the way yeah by the way we rarely talk about show topics after the show and I should mention by the way popcorn time douchebag this is by the way not a way to go. By the way it turns out that answer after you use the lozenge, and by the way people want to look for good reading and there's a lot of good stuff oh by the way i do have to read something that was a I

2:42:53 most corrupt, brutal police departments in the United States. And by the way- By the way as we know never marry an actress We have a proclamation of presence say by the way... By the way if you are praising Obama's peace record? By the way which we don't like to use stolen art and then by the way also I caught another fine piece on MSNBC and by the way i'm the only person catching it is by the way Norway has ended their blasphemy laws in the meantime, please remember us at devorak.org slash n-a wake up! i demand you break your conditioning! i'm joe biden and thank you for taking the time to listen elevate in iraq i think im gonna crack my pants adios mofo the best podcast in the universe devorak dot org slash na amen fist bump