Power & Gossip

00:00 Like their arms straight down and they're still stiff, and they're just bug-eyed. Adam Curry John C Dvorak Sunday March 29 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 708 This is no agenda Diving deep into the ads be extended splitter spec and broadcasting live from the condo in downtown Austin, Texas FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I received a bat signal. I'm John C Devorah You didn't actually receive the bat signal this is a fact no the Bat Signal has been expanded Adam Burkle who has that the know agenda

00:46 What was it? The No Agenda, which the PocketNoAgenda app is working on. What happened was the provider that provides the push services no longer provides a free tier. They what? They no longer provide a free tier. It costs money to do these alerts on... How much could it cost? Believe me! It's like 200 bucks a month To send out a bat signal of eight times a month? To have it appear on the iPhone with an alert, yes. There's a whole industry built around that That is a jip Just so people know the Bat Signal

01:23 is whenever I tweet with a special hashtag thing that comes from my account, that triggers at least one app. But there's also other apps that have been made and for awhile the PocketNoAgenda app has been kind of down because of this change but now we have two new... Two new apps you can use PushBullet and Pushover Push bullet, push bullet and pushover. Over pushovers funny yeah that Larry Gilbert did that and I can't see who are other producer was who did the push bullets stuff anyway you can find those links in the show notes at 708 dot no agenda notes calm and it works i just tested it so gives you a nice little push notification

02:10 What does the push notification consist of? What do you get, what is your... It's some noise it honks a horn. Yeah and it says no agenda bad signal we are now live this my tweet with No Agenda episode 708 and has the link to the No Agenda stream Do you have any idea how many people subscribe to the bat signal not yet wait now for it? So did the other service provide you a such information I probably but the developers of this thing will have to tell me. I don't know hmm I just send out the tweet okay Seems like her 200 bucks a month seems pretty nice crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy when Twitter by the way is free Yeah, you're not the product at all No

03:03 Breaking news John if I use ad blocker breaking news breaking news breaking news the German wings pilot had a clubfoot and narcolepsy Figured figured. I'd just add to the bullshit Narco narcolepsy actually doesn't make sense. They did have this one Before we say anything, well I got a few clues. I know you do I just want to point out that This is so irregular yet. I don't believe people really are on to what's happening here So this guy was gay, then he wasn't gay Then he was living with a girl But then he had broken up with her but it was a different girlfriend who said he was gonna go do something crazy There's antidepressants at home He was hiding his craziness. He had bad eyesight He also converted to Islam

03:59 I haven't seen that one. Oh yeah, oh yeah! That came out for a brief moment. Yeah. They also tore up his note Well the note was already torn and it was in the trash hidden the note from his doctor Oh, I'm tear up this note and throw it in the trash. So there's two things is going on one is certainly in the United States media but I saw the Dutch newspapers and they were doing exactly well that's actually three things one is we need to have more safety in the air in general with multiple pilots on deck never have one person there of course the next generation aviation comes into play which I will be talking about

04:38 And then we have all this, what is the term? Psychological autopsy. Love that term! And it's, you know, it's like the war on crazy. We need to...we should not have secrecy if you're nuts we need to know all this stuff. Well, we need to know all this stuff that's just throw it back at the reporters and all the investigators and everybody in there ask a simple question which nobody seems to ask they say there's drugs involved what is the drugs? Oh! They never tell you do they but now I heard that there are certain ways why is so hard to tell us the drugs It's not privacy is dead.

05:16 It's because the drug companies won't let him tell the drugs everything goes through mass media and mass media reporters Won't ask about the drugs because they'll lose some sponsors And if you if you can drive this point home enough apparently in a newsletter well, if you combine the so-called reports of his depression and taking medication for that If you look at TCA's, tricyclic antidepressants such as lithium benzodiazepines...benzos? Benzos. How is it? Carbamazepine. All these SSRIs they are very known one of the side effects is vision problems

06:00 So this is now all fitting perfectly together, but it's a little difficult to go reporting. Now saying well because he was taking these antidepressants you know he had vision problems this is not necessarily something the pharmaceuticals want out there except in their standard disclaimer. You know anal leakage vision problems do not operate airbus aircraft. Do not operate an Airbus But I got a lot of feedback from producers. There had been a near-miss situation and the plane flew itself out of the problem. But the pilot was surprised when the plane did not go where it was supposed to go, while under computer control! It turned out that in the most recently delivered aircraft...

07:04 Airbus had changed the escape procedure from climb and bank to one side, to climb and bank to the other side. Oh yeah nice! But the change was buried in a 7000 plus page operating manual and not highlighted as a change! Hmm... This is the kind of crap that goes on Generally speaking with software which will bring us when we go to the tech segment later in the show give me my opportunity bitchin mode About Microsoft OneDrive. Okay, good. Holy hold on just hold on to that hold onto that I Know I see you have clips. I only have just one thing to lead you into it Maybe and that is a reminder That the expediency at which this Airman was blamed

07:51 And the of course there's a lot of misinformation about medical Medical certificates you have first second third class what they mean About privacy laws, but really this guy is just being dragged over the coals posthumously. Yeah That's what you do is dead But I would like to have A couple pieces of data of actual data such as the recording from the cockpit voice recorder, which I believe many... it's just like the Boston bombing video that doesn't seem to exist. Lots of people have been told what's on the audio or what the audio contains from the cockpit voice recorder but have not heard it themselves

08:32 And from the prosecutor, we know that you could hear his steady constant breathing all the way down to the end. I wonder...I've listened to cockpit voice recordings before there's ambient noise, you're going, you have a pretty rapid rate of descent So that there's noise involved with that and as you get closer I wonder if they could hear him really breathing all the way to the ground because this is pretty much what you're going To be hearing The last few hundred feet. Flight slope ahead pull up Sink rate, pull up Don't sink don't sink

09:19 Too low. Terrain And that just keeps on going! Too low It doesn't stop, it doesn't stop and that's the noise of the cockpit I can't hear him breathing!!! Well, the thing is... The breathing thing bugs me too. In fact they have a breathing clip just to confirm it You might as well play that clip This is the co-pilot bonus breathing story It was this mangled cockpit voice recorder which gave up its secret It seems the co-pilot locked the captain out of the cabin and then steered the plane into its final descent.

10:03 The prosecutor handling this investigation talking of deliberate intent to destroy the aircraft. The most plausible and probable interpretation for us is that the co-pilot refused to open the door to the cockpit to the flight captain, and activated the button to start the descent The prosecutor described the flight's final 10 minutes. He said the captain left the cockpit, perhaps to use the bathroom leaving the co-pilot alone at the controls to start the plane's descent. The captain is heard pleading to be let back in, but there is no response. The only cockpit noise? The sound of the copilot breathing normally with passengers heard screaming just before the moment of impact." That is just not true because you will hear... that's not true! Two things are not true

11:01 One, that is not the only thing you're going to hear in this. You cannot as far as I know and I've looked at manuals and I've talked to Airbus airmen...you can't turn off these TCAS warnings. The pull up, sink rates terrain. You can't turn those off those are there for a reason so that just makes no sense and there is one piece of data that I've been going after about intentional or the intent of the aircraft based on the flight management controls, which there is some actual data after your clips will get into that. But there is no data whatsoever about a button push that causes this descent does not collaborate with it. There is some data amateur data doesn't corroborate that at all

11:47 So this report is bogus. Let's take a look at it. Can I mention a few things here? First of all, this is Mike live that they'd be hearing and breathing in the first place Did he have the was he broadcasting these briefings okay so if he was just breathing I do not believe that would be enough to trigger his headphone microphone. There's a squelch setting on those and you set it higher than your breathing obviously, otherwise you keep taking that out. Yeah, he can't breathe at all! He never hear anything... It says single duplex if i'm not mistaken isn't? Single duplex is a contradiction in terms. It's duplex! It's NOT duplex! No, it's not duplex, its half-duplex. Well, no that's not true. It IS full duplex but it's noise gated

12:29 Okay, that's what it okay. It means but most but most cockpit voice records I don't even know if they if they record that audio specifically I know they record the ambient audio and you would have and you would have heard then pretty sure the The warnings would have punched through it doesn't matter We have no evidence no data as far as I'm concerned is all bull crap What are you doing? I'm breathing So that's always seemed like bullcrap. This guy is keyed up, you know? And what happened to he was gay? That went away. He was gay that went away. Gay part. Yeah the gay part but it just seemed like and yeah you're right there'd be all this other

13:13 racket going on and in that report this guy says there's all you could hear was screaming and the guy breathing normally. How does those two things mix together? The point is they whoever is reporting this wherever that was from, they are reporting on hearsay speculation and at best rumor because they have never heard this so their reporting lies Here's what I've noticed. That guy, if you listen to him with his British accent is...he put together a package and NewsHour had another person with another British accent putting together a package on it. And everything I've seen has been some British guy, always a British guy doing these reports. I'd never heard of these people that are doing these reports." Ah! Did you write down any names? Because that could be important. No, I didn't. And I only realized it when I started saying why is everybody British all of a sudden?"

14:00 And it's...I can dig their names up. But these reports are all, you know, done to...of course, then well, you know, it was in the mountains of the middle of nowhere and we don't really have a reporter there. Why don't we do your clips? I'd like to come back with the research that I've done. All right, well here's the clips this is the dubious backgrounder which is co-pilot clip one and so we followed by the innuendo which I find to be sketchy. Let's do a dubious backgrounder first. Neil Connery of Independent Television News has this report from the copilots family home in Montebord Germany

14:36 What was his name? I missed his name. Connery from Independent TV out of the UK. Neil Connery, Independent Television News has this report from the co-pilot's family home in Montabor Germany Behind the energetic and healthy appearance what turmoil could have driven Andreas Lubitz to do what he did more clues uncovered about his mental state are starting to surface Documents with medical information discovered at the house he shared with his parents are helping investigators trying to understand his actions.

15:11 At his flat in Düsseldorf, where he sometimes stayed, torn up sick notes for Lubitz are helping prosecutors build up a picture of the 27-year old. The fact that a ripped up current sick note which covered the day of the crash was found supports the assumption that he kept his illness secret from his employer, this prosecutor says Neighbors say Lubitz appeared to be in excellent physical shape, but evidence is growing of some other problem. In his flat along with torn up sick notes investigators found medical documents relating to an ex- Say what? You went from a torn up sick note to sick notes Oh yeah! But in this trash can which means he didn't use them

15:57 If he used... it doesn't matter. Nah, he's all about you. Let me tell you something if people came into my and I've only been here for four months they come into my condo here They- You're a neat freak we should mention Yeah but you would find like He had transmitters and weird looking antennas such as this Alpha Loop known for its World War 1 capabilities And it was like he had all kinds of dubious bottles of pills Which of course is for my voodoo doctor, you know. They have a lot of trouble in my place because I think One investigator was killed as the pile fell over Exactly um it's yeah

16:48 It's just disconcerting. No, I thought was this? Let's take that back. I think this is pretty much a very good example of how industry ran this news story. And I'm just taking my stance that something was wrong with his aircraft we have multiple German wing aircrew who refused to fly. Said, but we're not flying and of course there's all A320s that they fly no one is going to necessarily come out and say because of this but they don't trust it there was a maintenance issue with nose wheel landing your doors... But they are just not flying! And that's not typical for this type of incident as explained

17:36 Did Egypt Air go on strike when we had the Alawak Bar guy go down? No, I don't think so. Well they're doing a good job if this is a cover up and so let's go to you can skip the rest then go to the innuendo and there's actually a couple of little snippets in here that make it Make you do scratch your head a little bit at the local flying club where Lubitz was a member. They're in disbelief Ernst Muller tells me none of this makes sense It's strange, this isn't an everyday event that someone kills themselves and takes 149 others with them Some things happen but to take innocent people

18:19 with you, like this. It's just terrible." The regional mayor told me his thoughts are with all those suffering. We mourn with all the families including the family of the co-pilot he says but there is no proof so far that media reports are what really happened There's been more police activity at Lubitz' parents home with items taken away as this investigation continues. As the hours pass, more details continue to emerge about the real Andreas Lubitz It's really fantastic how it works when all you have to do is just insert this basic story and then everyone is investigating things that could be based on just a false premise

19:08 And they just go on and on and on, then we're all crazy. We need to have psychological evaluations for all... which is a part of your first class medical course but it doesn't matter I think-I mean i'm all in! Let's have psychological evaluations for bus drivers train drivers uber drivers For teachers, nurses doctors babysitters because they could come one day and KILL YOU! The war on crazy is full blown now And of course, again the News Hour being... I've looked at this from this perspective. The News Hour is sponsored by these big companies

19:48 In one way or another and you know, well I know Boeing is a frequent boat. Boeing's a big sponsor I don't know if Airbus EADS I think I've seen their logo They may want to step up their advertising as some gratitude here this maybe Maybe a sales job going on here but news hour does they? News our hands Oh by the way, I want to say the ones the one psychological evaluation that you'll never hear anyone pleading for is politicians And they really should be the top of the list. I would say play them, this is an interlude here, play the PBS pitch for NewsHour

20:26 Okay Where can you turn for news? You can trust we make sense of something on PBS We believe journalism should never stop asking questions Give to your PBS station and support in-depth independent journalism answer to no one but you and are corporate advertisers. I mean, underwriters...I mean sponsors. Howard Baetjer Yeah, well we're not gonna accuse them of doing a slipshod job here to basically cover up a corporate scandal if there was one we don't know that's the point but they it is interesting how they passed off this story to ITN and let them do the story and you can go away wow! It was their reporting ran their story. I don't know good point excellent point because normally they run their own stories

21:17 So here's the third clip. That is of note, yes it is of note. The third clip which is this one... there has been a number of reports and one was on News Hour where they had this guy on we had a clip with him saying well you know The procedure is you never leave two people in the cockpit. You don't leave a loner in the cockpit, you always put a flight attendant or somebody else in there to make sure that you remember that clip and now we keep hearing the guy was locked himself in there but we do not know if he physically pushed him out of it, he just locked himself in however that works so they had to fix the back story

22:02 So let's fix the backstory so we make this more clear, so people aren't confused by what we've already done on the show. Lubitz locked himself in the cockpit alone before the crash that prompted Europe's Aviation Safety Agency today to recommend all airlines adopt a two-person cockpit rule as soon as possible U.S rules already require it Okay, we got that straightened out. Yes So then now we're good to go Onward with the bull crap That just cracks me up And that's all I've got okay so here Here's where The things that i was looking at um The official story there's some bothersome pieces Besides the fact that we have not actually heard the audio which i don't see why they wouldn't release that but it just makes no sense We had uh

22:52 audio of flight 93, you know let's roll. We had that wasn't necessarily cockpit voice recording but we had a lot of these different... We have the cockpit voice recording from the flight that was forced down! Right? From yes well that was ATC that wasn't cockpit that was ATC. Okay it was ATC But this is not unprecedented that this stuff has released particularly if your real I mean look if I was running in news a program, then I couldn't get a recording of the captain banging on the door and passengers screaming before it cuts out. That's ratings in the can baby! Yeah. So there might be freedom of information requests... that may be more difficult because it's technically maybe German property? I don't know if it's French property? Probably German but still it would just help me a lot. It would help me personally as a favor. It would be nice if they did that

23:48 Now there is other data and this is part of the next generation aircraft system. And this is the so-called ADSB technology, and the ADSB is it's a system like a transponder, you know we have the old mode A B and C transponders that send a code which is just to identify which aircraft also sends the aircraft registration number. A few other pieces of data the newer systems and there are two that are being rolled out worldwide too with the 978 UAT and the 1090 ES

24:28 And people are upgrading to this because eventually it will be mandatory. These transponders can send and receive from radar stations, but you can also just receive their signal on one of these little USB... SDR software-defined radio sticks, which cost like 20 bucks or something. And people have been hacking on this stuff for a long time. It operates around the one gigahertz frequency and there's a network now of people who are receiving these signals and aggregate it through sites—the most predominant one is flightradar24.com

25:05 appears to be on the up and up. And these guys, they sell their professional app or their full blown app and they have in-app purchases... Apparently doing about $2.9 million a year in profit. They have nine people working for the company who have no venture funding that has been announced at least. They say they're just running on their own revenues And they have, you know like you can track flights based upon this system. Now they don't have all flights because only about 20% of commercial airlines in the United States have this I've not...I was not able to find out if the German wings Airbus 320 had either these installed but according to Flightradar24 they did and here's what's interesting

25:56 There is one data register in this, I think it's 56 frames or something that these transmitters poop out. There's one Register 40 is what it's called and if the ground station interrogates the aircraft which is not abnormal but again you know this is not really a rolled-out complete system at all... It can say give me flight management control data and Every, I think it's every second or so this transponder will spit out a signal.

26:31 And the Flightradar24.com guys have three entries, only three they say and they say they received it from... They had to aggregate a whole bunch of ground stations which includes amateur data received by people with just laptops and little USB stick and a wire hanging out of it but of course there are also ground stations that are being built for uh the true next generation aircraft system or air management system which In theory makes some sense that, you know, you can know the intent of an aircraft what the flight crew has intended. And the example is here at 0930 Zulu 0932 Zulu there was an entry from the register 40 in this which apparently was

27:17 interrogated by ground station, and it came back altitude setting for FMC flight management computer 38000 feet with the has the Q&H which is the pressure 1006 which is normal. Then at 93054 Zulu, the flight management bit It comes back as the setting for the altitude, ALT is 13,008 feet and then at 930.55 Zulu, so this happens within a couple seconds of each other... The flight management computer reports altitude 96 feet which would indicate that someone turned the altitude dial... Now, to go from 38000 feet to 96 feet you probably have to spin the dial to left twice. Which would make sense if then wound up at 13800 feet halfway to the 96-feet setting

28:10 Now what's interesting is that they only have three entries of this intent, nothing before nothing after. And they say it was probably just good luck that one of these ground stations caught that and they took two days to decode all this information I don't want to say that it's not true if it is true This clearly shows at least a setting on the flight management computer with the altimeter If the autopilot was engaged It would indeed take this aircraft down The problem is there's no data before or after, which is suspicious. There is very... if any reporting on these three entries and ADS-B is of course hackable You could put these lines right into the data dump you can just add it in manual just type it in but you can also spoof easily spoof the transponder code There's no good authentication as far as I've been able to find out

29:11 It looks like it's legit, but the one thing we know is not the guy pressing a button because this was specifically him twirling the altitude setting to left twice. And this is all part of what they call the extended squitter registries in this new ADS-B system I don't understand why people...why this is not being used as evidence? I don't get it! It seems like if you know this is proof that he did that And I think it's only because the backstory, which we fixed part of as we just played says that he pressed this button to take it all the way down in a controlled descent. That does not jive with

29:54 what flightradar24.com's data is saying." Uh-oh! Yeah, exactly. Sounds like we need another correction to the backstory. Well we might... We might and I don't want to accuse these guys but other the only thing i could think of is that the flight radar 24 dot com maybe they've got some deal on the back end because you know they're intended to get the customer the flying public accustomed of tracking and reporting of aircraft. It also, the conversation that I keep hearing is we need to stream data live from all these airplanes! That's exactly what this is

30:37 This is data being streamed live with some interesting additional data. There's a lot of things that this extended squitter spec contains that can be put into the broadcast, but it's funny that of all the different fields... Of all the things you can get from the extended squidder this is the only thing as there are two inputs to the flight management computer and with altitude control so I don't know exactly Where this will head I think you'll never hear about this ADS-B data even though it would be fantastic as proof But I really question all of it now and by the way is there not a single body these disintegrated completely There's not an arm, a foot, a piece of an ear nothing. Well that I think they're still really...I don't know You don't know

31:37 I know you don't know. They can't get up there, it's cold. One thing producer Charlie by the way for really he is an ADS-B expert one of course that what our intelligence network is all about and I put his notes verbatim into the show notes so you can see all the backgrounders and how this stuff works. It's really interesting to see how this works, there are a lot of people playing around with this on the receiving side but you can also easily transmit because you could spoof this from your laptop technically Yeah, well we're not going to get to the bottom of it. The scheme is underfoot and the media's not gonna go any deeper than you're gonna get from these ITN guys. I remain... Whoever else was assigned this story? I remain skeptical.

32:30 I believe it still is an Airbus versus Boeing thing. The timing is weird with sales jobs going on big sales jobs to Middle Eastern countries and the war machine is cranking up, I did get an email from one of our producers Adam John a pilot in the military industrial complex to fly a Navy variant of Boeing 707 And I agree 100% with your assessment of fly-by-wire and flight engineers." So what I said is the fly by wire, now we're seeing the unintended consequences of technology. And we used to have a third guy on deck! He continues... "...I love knowing that if shit hits the fan and we lose all power and or hydraulics, I can still fly the good old 707 since it uses all old school manual controls!" Don't get me wrong, it's a pig but it always works. Also my flight engineers kept me from doing stupid shit all the time

33:18 Every time I read about that Air France story, how the fly-by-wire system contributed to the crash it pisses me off more and more. It makes me realize what a dumb F system this is that Airbus installed. There is some religion to this... The Boeing versus the Airbus guys And now they're talking about command and control, we can remotely land the plane. All of this is going to be misused... technology is going to kill more people as we grow older! It's just not gonna stop. It's just not gonna stop. Oh yeah well it's already doing a fine job at killing people. Yeah I did like one theory that would typically be second half or show but since were talking about anyway This crash was on the 25th

33:59 The Large Hadron Collider cranked up on the 20th or 24th. It's just about 130 miles north of the crash, so it could have been a you know just magnetism dragging the aircraft down. Sucking it down to earth! To the core of the earth. Yeah changing it into little protons and what was this other one? Who was on the plane? Someone came up with a crazy oh yeah there was uh apparently this I didn't even go into this one but Apparently, there was an investigative team who were on their way to look into... or coming back or on their way to look into massive banking fraud tied to Crypto AG, Siemens, the Vatican Bank, Mossad and the CIA. I mean, I can't think of one more name to put in there. The AIIB Upcoming Bank? No they were not on that. They don't have to kill anybody for that! That's going nowhere except everyone is joining.

34:59 So, I'm sorry. I don't have any answers because we have absolutely zero information except for the data that... ...I just gave you and that's all there is as far as iIm concerned and it does support the intent—the intentional crash It does support it but I know there's no one has—there's no way to really authenticate this data And I'm just not too sure about this outfit that produced it although I've no reason to doubt them And that's it. That is the true story, so you'll hear CNN go on for five more days? Oh yeah easy But this is really all we got Well apparently in terms of news that's all CNN ever has Wrecked planes It does bring me to something else I wanted to talk about

35:45 I went to dinner with...Christina, I went to dinner with my ex-banker friend and his wife. The banker? The banker the ex New York banker right and yeah We have other stuff to discuss about you know what was going on but at a certain point he said during the dinner He says Capitalism is gossip and power like and I said wow Where did that come from? He said, well think about it. That's what it is. That's how capitalism works and I wrote it down and when I went home, I decided to give it a little search and I wound up with a guy who I had never heard of and I'm very surprised but I'm sure you have Walter Winchell.

36:36 Walter Winchell is pretty much credited as the father of the schlock bull crap celebrity driven news cycle that we have today. It's funny that of all people who never heard a Walter Winchell... It would be me, I know it would be me! ...it is very humorous. People out there who know Walter Winchell are laughing to themselves. Uh, I don't know if there are many people who do know him but I have a few clips Walter, you have him? No. I have clips from old clips from 1994 Neil Gabler He is the author of power gossip and the culture of celebrity So he wrote the book about Walter Winchell And I thought it was uh...I thought it would be an interesting exercise to just learn a little bit about Walter Winchell as he is the founder

37:28 of what we are in today and actually listen to an example as well. So I'd like to play here the back, this is from PBS...and it's from the 90s Speaking to Neil Gabler, it's kind of the backgrounder on the whole concept. There was no real gossip in mainstream press before Walter Winchell. And Winchell was in the...was he in the 20s and 30s? Was that his time period John? Mostly the 30s and 40s Oh I thought there were some 20s there but he was doing Well they might be but he was a radio personality Yes well he started as a columnist for The New York Post Right, but he became famous as a radio personality and ended up wielding a lot of power because he understood the new medium. And that medium had not really been fully developed in the 20s to the point where somebody like that can emerge. ...invented—and I use that word advisedly—invented the mainstream gossip column. Gossip had always been marginalized before Windchill and by that I mean there were things like Town Topics which was a society scandal sheet

38:27 And there was a scandal sheet called Broadway Brevities, which wrote gossip about various Broadway personalities. But these had very small circulations and they certainly didn't hit the mainstream readership. They weren't part of the mainstream journalism or the mainstream media environment. Then Winchell comes along And single-handedly, and it was single handed. He creates this column in which he talks about who is romancing whom and who's about to divorce and whose anticipating the birth then and whose consorting with gangsters and whose welching on bets and whose ill and all of these things that had previously been shielded from public view but we gossip over the backyard fence I mean we gossip about our neighbors and that's one thing

39:13 But the only way that this gossip, that is mainstream gossip in a newspaper and ultimately syndicated gossip across the country is relevant at all. Is if you're gossiping about people that everyone knows? And the people that everyone knows are almost by definition members of some kind of elite whether it's a financial elite or social elite or celebrity elite now when you take all those factors and you put yourself in the position of someone who's reading Winchell's column, in the late 20s or 30s or even later but let's get back to the kind of inception of that column. And you're reading about some movie star who is getting divorced or some socialite whose lost a fortune in some way or another You are penetrating the veil The veil that has always existed! You're punching a hole in it Or your letting Winchell punch the hole in it and your looking through that hole

40:11 And that empowers you. That gives you a sense of power over the people about whom you're reading by invading their privacy, you are in a way appropriating them. That is it's Of course I know this intellectually been I've witnessed it but that is exactly what it is It empowers the slaves who feel disenfranchised have no power Feel know their vote doesn't count And it's a human mechanism that, as of course we'll hear in this next clip was geniusly exploited. He writes again and again and again how tired he is at writing these columns how much you would like to retire sounds like you John

40:59 how he only does it for the money. He's always looking for something else to do and I think he got bored with gossip, and he said this explicitly later on that you know if gossip just bores me now when i can deal with the affairs of world uh... so i think that would have happened I think too there was always a political potential within Winshell that he understood at some point the relationship between the cultural democracy he served and the political democracy he could serve. Certainly, uh... The Anti-Defamation League understood that in using Winchell's column to fight the Nazis both abroad and domestically Uh.. And others came to Winchell on a regular basis civil rights leaders would come to Winchell because they understood the way in which the column could serve their purposes. Uhh... Sound familiar?

41:50 Yeah, Winchell's interesting. I just looked him up on the Wikipedia. I remember him when I was a kid he was still around until he died in 72. Well you actually used part of his legacy Well, I'm stuck with it. Yeah that's okay but he began his radio things really made him... He was good at..he did the thing about... So we hear an example because what i like so much? I can do an imitation of him No no let's do this again! You have an example of him? I do and this is really nice because first of all starts off with something that you know obviously your influence by him through the ages although I don't think directly

42:28 But he also has a little sound, this is video you can see it in the show and it's from C-Span actually. He has kind of like a telegraph sound and its a button that he's pushing himself and he's firing off these things is what makes it fantastic. And by the way, this was around the McCarthy era and although he always denied it as you'll even hear in this clip, he was a central figure in calling out the communists of the McCarthy era so here is a piece of Walter Winchell It's time America, time for Walter Winchell. Presented to you by Gruen the precision watch. Gruen the finest watch you can wear. Gruen the finest watch you can give brings you the man who gives America the news Walter Winchell of The New York Daily Mirror and The Washington Post Mr. and Mrs. North American all ships at sea let's go to press! Mr. and Mrs. American and all the ships in sea I love it

43:30 You should add Mr. and Mrs America, except say Mr or Mrs Gitmo Nation in all the ships at sea. Dallas Texas! The Texas Special of the Katy Line has been wrecked near Roy City, Texas between San Antone and St. Lou. Love that. San Antone and Saint Lou! Several reported killed just happened we may have more on it later. That's the tease, the classic tease! Puerto Rico, the Nationalist Party of Puerto Rico of Puerto Rico is on the march. They are plotting violence and maybe a revolution after reading armories for their guns. New York City, the police in New York have a new hot lead on the murder of a Bronx mobster. He was killed last week for welching on commissions due to adultery in East Harlem! This is like your criminal news he's throwing in there. Hey we got the news he was welching on the bets. Oh yeah. New York City, Mayor-Elect Wagner will name his Police Commissioner this week, maybe Wednesday. The field is now down to six including Assistant District Attorney Vincent O'Connor

44:22 And, surprise! Chief Inspector Rothengast. Two good men It's unbelievable because we have the pilot of the plane was on medication Washington DC It's a baby boy for Peter Campbell Brown and they go to the elite baby boy and wait for it Columbia Hospital, Washington Mr. Brown is New York City's next commissioner of investigation New York City It's a baby boy for John Costello at Leroy Sanitarium The lovely mother is the song star Nancy Donovan New York City hear this Dorothy Parker, the famous playwright and poet will make a speech in New York on the 17th at a hall in Greenwich Village probably on 4th Street. On behalf of the communists now in American jails, book inspiring to overflow the United States good girl good girl. So he's absorbed it! Dorothy Parker communist

45:12 Well, he was powerful man. Powerful! He actually well he was up way past his peak by this...He peaked in 1948 of course and I believe this to be true because he was very anti-nazi uh anti-communist later on. Well he was a Jew with the non-Jewish isn't he? He changed his name right but he was a very Pro Roosevelt he kind of peaked with Roosevelt and so when in his style And was it not Roosevelt who was influenced with his but with that fireside chats from Roosevelt not influenced by him I really doubt it He had the only lasting influence. He had with this style was Paul Harvey, right?

45:55 And that's the story? Good day, Paul Harvey. Good day." Paul Harvey without the high-speed patter did his type of news... That was the story. Paul Harvey is amusing because at one point and I remember this it was too funny because Paul Harvey had that extremely outrageous old-fashioned radio voice. He was actually hired and was on the 60 Minutes show for about a year, and they couldn't deal with him. Paul Harvey? Yeah. Really? I remember when they did that... These are radio guys! They wanted him on 60 Minutes TV?!

46:40 uh... that's no good they put him on a list of the report on this guy is not a tv dot it would tb came out around nineteen forty eight and that's when went to peak because tv change the way i mean if you read mcclellan series you know he had a hot medium in the cold media and uh... them two medians radio versus t vs so different that went to could make the transition to the because you'd be annoyed if you watch this guy now on i'm quoting an open letter That's Paul Harvey. Yeah, play a little bit of Paul Harvey. My dear children and believe me that is all of you Oh wait this is it? That's too fake. This letter from God here let me try this one If I were the devil No that's also not a good example Well anyway... Everyone has heard Paul Harvey Not everyone but... He's dead now Yes When did he die? He died in 2008 Not too long ago

47:35 or I don't have one. I just thought it was interesting when i hear that and it was just reminded that it truly is, that people get empowerment from celebrity gossip and ha ha she has cellulite It's funny that you bring this up because I was thinking about the mechanism on daytime TV, which is really where most of this stuff really occurs. And I thought about the main shows including the new ones like The Real and some of these shows we have a bunch people around the table like Whoopi Goldberg's The View. So you have these things and they're are little bit gossipy but if anybody out there wants to really see this at work

48:15 Now that you mention it and had that clip, which I think was a great clip almost worthy but not quite. Some of the shows for example on The Daytime with individual personalities which I would say from your thesis would stem from Paul Winchell Yeah, I say Paul Winchell. It would be not Paul Winchell. Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney as a comic act never mind so yeah Walter Winchell would be Queen Latifah she comes to mind the Ellen DeGeneres show Meredith Vieira's got a show but the Show of Shows TMZ

48:54 Think that's it. That's a death a different model Okay, the show I'm talking about shows where you interact with an audience no audience at TMZ There's no way to have them back Bill Maher Bill Maher's a comedy show. He does jokes all right, I'll shut up and I'm talking about daytime shows bring it home bad daytime show bring it home And yeah, I don't know why you said bill maher the show that Talks about gossip bill maher doesn't talk about gossip I mean he talks about political gossip a little bit But it's not just not to an extreme that we're talking about here that you brought up

49:32 The show of shows, if anybody wants to watch how this really works you have to watch the Wendy Williams Show. Wendy Williams is a black woman who is intimate with the audience. The audience and Wendy Williams are as one on the show it's genuinely a work of art in this regard All it is, from beginning to end is extremely inside baseball celebrity gossip where she brings out...oh she has a...and what happened? Why does she have a swollen toe?" And then she'll make some kind of callback that you don't know I don't know. It's almost like listening to the Jim Rome show, this sports talk guy or some of these guys who have created their own universe

50:16 And to watch the Wendy Williams show, which in some ways is nauseating because all it is extreme celebrity gossip and the audience's all-in with hers. And she's a big woman! All-in with her when she does something like that... Oh did you see the cellulite on her ass? The audience is all-in. It's astonishing this show anyone who wants to see our listeners won't be able to watch for very long But I have a 132nd clip back to the PBS interview with the author of the book about the transition to the celebrity culture, which is...I should've played this just before what you said actually. He created a preoccupation with celebrity, with gossip, with trivia and that grew and grew and grew until

51:10 it really kind of subsumed the press. I mean that process is still going on now, if one wants to see the origins of this media environment in which we live where were more interested in what happens to Michael Jackson's marriage than we are and what happens to Haiti If one wants to understand the origins of that One has to go back to Walter Winchell. Needless to say, I've ordered this book which does not exist on Kindle and I shall read it and if there's anything else in there that I learned about... What is the name of this book? It's called Winchell subtitled Power Gossip And The Culture Of Celebrity. I think i got one of the last two new copies so you can get a second hand but certainly not on kindle

52:03 It's interesting how this form...I like that, I'm gonna get this book too. When you play some Winchell, Winchell actually mixed the gossip in and he had it in a mix of news. The purest form of this again, I'll bring it up as Wendy Williams she mixes with no news. Well here is the cool thing, I believe that the transition we have seen from politicians and leaders they have become celebrities And that is now, and in some cases it's extreme. Clinton, Obama, you know, Carrie Wishes... He just too fucking stupid to be a celebrity! He's stupider than the stupidest celebrity. But then the association? That's another big one. The association with George Clooney and you can go on and on and

52:51 And that is really how the... I like that empowerment angle. Like when you can, ah ha ha we found out that he's smoking cigarettes! The president is haha! I have control over him now because I know what he's doing." It's sad and I don't know exactly what the antidote is. I don't know exactly what it is but we should be able to help people well screw it. I'm not going to help anybody People who listen to the show will just be reminded how this came together. I thought, I just like...I liked this! This was a rabbit hole I like going down and never heard of the guy very disappointed in my historical knowledge. Yeah well you were raised probably away from him. And not about too young i think

53:38 Just maybe all that way. Well he did he was even if you're young you would have been Introduced to him via Saturday morning cartoons the guy was so famous that all that cartoon they cartoons were mocking him and doing really characterizing him in Bugs Bunny his legacy is still alive today in Texas by the way, did you know that? No My God, for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! That's right. Yeah... You did not know that did you? Actually, as you mentioned it, that is exactly it. See?! Uh-huh. I know. That's a good call. For 20 plus years they had glow-in-the dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish

54:31 There's a clip. You want one more? For 20 years they've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas, protogen! You know about pharmacological corn? Ugh... HIV corn?! I thought I was nuts. HIV corn?? They've been selling glow-in-the dark dogs? Yes, with jellyfish. For 20 plus years they had glow in the dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish! I would like to order them along with my sea monkeys please Wow yeah i know send you those You're not listening to him No... I had to ask did you edit this and make this up because that's almost

55:18 The literal definition of incredible. I say, you know this exactly what it is man Okay fine and of course I have no time to listen to him you crazy no time for that Wow busy a lot of listening to get those clips doing busy doing the well lots of people listen Nothing wrong with that No, it's fine buying seeds and buy some seeds where you're at and boner pills It's all good. That's all good We've had, every once in a while somebody quits they go overboard. We talked about this man overboard. Yes I thought someone gave me a splash sound for that. Some guy went over splash so splash went over the side. This was an email you forwarded to me? Yeah it's an email and I'm not going to say who this is but I have to read some of this before we go into segment. Yeah I think you should that's a good idea. Because its distressing. It's distressing on a number of different dimensions

56:14 Because we're not trying to be mean-spirited or a-holes on this show. We do make light of things, which is kind of a-holeish. Let me reiterate there's two things people... new listeners misunderstand two things one We're really just trying to make light of the situation because if you laugh about it, it changes your chemical composition and you can feel better about typically things that are not... You're not being told the truth about it or maybe just little disappointing in general because of all this information transmission we can enjoy that there's just too much and your head is going to explode. The second piece is when we talk about people, we pretty much on the show are always talking about them from a media perspective. We deconstruct media, we look at things so if I'm talking about how Abby Martin looks formerly of RT it's not because i have any personal vendetta or crush on her It's just seriously thinking about why she's no longer on RT and part of it she can't walk in heels And do we have experience with this? We know how it works

57:19 and media dominates people's lives. So you might as well know how it works if it's dominating. You might as well know how it works, and the internet has just made it worse! Yeah, it didn't make it better, it made it worse Once Hillary Clinton figures out. And we expose this as best we can and there are people at higher levels than we have ever achieved that could do an even better job of exposing it, but they're all in because you get paid off! You're making huge amounts of money, you're not going to turn on your own media unless you're nuts. Precisely. I haven't been listening to the shows lately he writes I've been trying to focus on setting up life here in China. He's just left from Denver, and we'll skip most of this but it is what... There are a couple graphs in here that need to be read. I appreciate what both you and Adam do but after all the disruption in our lives lately both me and my, I don't know if his wife or girlfriend have decided to look for more positive inputs

58:15 Yeah, that hurt a little. That stung a bit I hope to come back and listen eventually but the tone of your show seems too angry for me at this time Really? I'm thankful for Twit and the shows they produce and the consistent message of being positive What? Well... yeah, well, I guess so I'm a rule follower right what do you do are you a rule follower So i suppose that there is a uh a contingent that doesn't want to hear any of what our analysis has to say. We deconstruct stuff, we tear it apart and then we make it apparent in many instances that what the public is getting fed is complete horseshit! At some point you make that blue pill red pill decision and you say the horse shit's better

59:09 I prefer the horseshit because it's positive. It has nice little chunks. It is a positive message! If you had a positive message, well there are a lot of preachers by the way that have very positive messages and I think Osteen is a good example of a guy who has the ability to produce a positive message all Bible related if that's what you want to deal with anything I would just go straight to the Lord Yeah, just become a...right. It's easy and you can get nothing but positive feedback and don't read the news! Don't listen to anything! No But if you're gonna be in the world generally speaking You can still listen to The Lord, you can listen to Osteen or any of these other preachers that are very talented

59:53 But that doesn't mean you should be just buffaloed, like oh let me buy another phone. I have one but I need a new one for someone it'll be sold. These operations of positive... I need the next big thing! ...are selling you stuff that you don't need. It's all about selling you the sucker. Based on that maybe i should mention this, Uh, from my Twitter. I have news from my Uber sources. Okay? You know from the Uber intelligence network... I've got information man! New shit has come to light! And uh, and I really like taking uber in town you know when i get the car out of garage and all that it's a pain in the ass It's like seven or eight bucks but I never really take something that has to be far enough away for me to get into conversation

1:00:52 But pretty much everybody who's driving Uber, I'd say 30% is local Texan born and raised. And the rest is... Well here are the two that I spoke to one Uber source from Kashmir very interesting just hear about Kashmir the area that has been fought over between India and Pakistan for... Is he Indian or Pakistani? Pakistani Okay But he prefers to call himself just from Kashmir. He doesn't like to be from either one, actually which that was kind of the interesting thing I'll get back to him in a second but had a young kid from Baghdad

1:01:30 And he's been here for a number of years. He came to study computer, but like Q and A or some software Q&A anyways at Austin Community College and he's driving Uber to make up for the cost not making a lot of money but with these guys...and you should try this yourself when if you're in a cab. But cab is little harder because I don't know But certainly with the Uber, he's like where are you from? And with your no agenda knowledge you'll be able to strike up a conversation. So Baghdad puts oh yeah well that IS is pretty funny and certainly since it's the CIA and that's when you know the car will jerk a little bit because his head whips around and goes You know this?!

1:02:16 He said, yeah of course. You know not everyone in America is stupid. He says oh everybody knows this and everybody in Iraq knows it! Everybody knows this is crazy CIA Mossad... And then he just goes off on the American population. He says I came here I want to work hard. I want to get an education. I care. I don't want any handouts. I don't need anything from anybody but everybody I know here in America they don't wanna work? They just wanna party and smoke weed Yeah, yeah watch TV. So that's pretty much it and they just that's an interesting observation I think he's right well There's some evidence to that you have a clip do I have it? I don't know what your evidence Okay, well the cash you play the noodle boy if you want the cashmere guy said something even funnier

1:03:04 And this was a couple days ago. I try to write these things down immediately when they start talking about it, but he said look everybody knows that MH370... Everybody where I come from he says everybody knows that they were testing a weapon that can disappear things and this was the target we all know that. Thanks The one that disappeared? That plane that took the left turn and disappeared. Yep, he says it was... I never heard this one! Well you don't live in the Middle East do ya?! You don't live in Pakistan or Kashmir or India do you!? Wow, you really get out of control! I like this! Disappear things.. I need a jingle for the Uber sources. I've got information man!! New shit has come to light!!! I'm just gonna keep taking these guys even if they go out to dinner. They're fantastic

1:03:53 Well, if you get a weapon. He said everyone knows this where I come from. No one fact no fact. You know what? I'm not questioning it but it's just interesting to have this type of info. I like it. I really very much like it All right, with that I think it's more than time to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Adam Curry In the morning Mr & Mrs America all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there. In the morning everybody in the chat room noagendastream.com good to have you there. In the morning to Void Zero who will be going into...have some procedure done April 1st

1:04:41 Then so we're just sending him some karma for this coming week and in the morning to our artists, Lynn Hartson two in a row. Two in a row? You know that's the random number theory at work Is it? Well Or is he just nailed it? He just nailed it baby The guy nailed it Possible people can nail it but you know usually its not necessarily streaky Well, we've had Nick the Rat on the street. We've had Martin JJ on the street... Remember when the big streak was Martin JJ to the point where he had to retire for a while? I think actually didn't go to work anymore. He disappeared from social life. He said, you know, I'm kicking ass! I'm going back off because these losers can seem to get an art piece in. And I really want to thank Martin JJ when were talking about it who pretty much saved our ass with a backup recording of the show

1:05:34 On Thursday, no idea what happened. I did check today's recording it seems to be working But we had a melt. I had a three-hour file with no audio And Martin JJ had recorded the stream and is highly appreciated. Actually, that sounded pretty good I have a backup recording which is the iRiver IFP 799 Which records fine? And and I like it because it's very small or runs on a double A battery You can just plug it in It's good to go The problem is There's no you can no longer get the files off of the device with a modern operating systems So it has little irony there. Oh, I've got my backup device and just cry now the 1950s know it sucks

1:06:19 It's horrible. So I could get it off of there. Yeah, we do after the show we do a postmortem and so we put stuff together and then this thing he said no problem! I got my 1942 backup thing running here should be great. And uh...so recorded but the only way to get it off would be to spin it off in real time Three hours before I would have said to re-record it so if anyone has any ideas about that And and I don't have a Windows machine. It would it would it would have to be on OS 10 Yeah, this is just nutty that that's not possible I'm so surprised and I didn't know because we haven't had the you know they had a crash like that They used the backup anyway, so highly appreciate Martin JJ's efforts there oh here We go

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1:08:13 Tejas is not really, you know Texas and Barkley. Mm-hmm Thank you so I'm gonna use Barclay from now on good Thank you So very much for the biweekly dose of sanity required to keep me off the ledge I'm calling out Eric eric who I punched in a mouth last year and al who Eric punch in the mouth as boners well I got douchebags, no boners. Well... Sorry. Please note the forward email from Homeland Security and the Botkin oil train explosions that this came out after show 702s detailing the evils of rail versus pipelines from Putin anti-gay to the Hobby Lobby case in B to the BS it is the XL pipeline discussion thank you for deconstructing the media excrement and giving us the truth i couldn't ask not

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1:11:34 Wow yeah, well we already had the the nussbaum Yell so I guess he's a You've already had that one. This is an extra special one. It's nice Hmm bonus all right now. He's off the rails man. He's doing his own thing He's gone nuts. Yes gone nuts. Yeah, just don't let him in the cabin The future Sir Gott Nate, which is the way he wants to be known. And curiously I had his email open and he does have Gott Nate as his request from Fletcher and He sent an email in and I went to look open it and then I realized that I stupidly Did something on that sheet? Let's see if I can find... Ah! Here it is good

1:12:35 Good, thank you for the back arrow. I've instructed my...I don't know how long that's gonna work by the way with this new stuff from Microsoft. What was this? What your problem? The back arrow! You hit the back arrow and go back a page and then another page and then find the stuff you were at that you stupidly got off of it. And this is from Sir Got Nate Or will be. I've instructed my bank's automatic bill to play this is once early state offer, I don't think they heard anything a deadline for the Fletcher scream once payment is accounted for like to request oh he's the one who wants internet! I would like to request an INTERNET!!! Fletcher scream my office's internet connection loves to let go at random times during the workday Whenever this happens at least one person in the office screams Internet right now I plan to mod a stables easy button to scream Internet every time. I hit it in response that my internet going down or Or when somebody else screams he wants to hit it So we should save a ring for him you see on his way

1:13:37 I guess he's somewhat, wants to be somewhat anonymous. Okay good we're still on the ring. I have the email from Michael Hintz. Michael Hintz from Everett Massachusetts nuts we got a lot of Massachusetts nuts. I've got the email 23456 and you have the email. Hey Adam and John been listening since a little before episode 600 without a single donation So I'm far too long a douchebag. The way I see it, it's time I donated! Please de-douche me if you don't mind of course not a problem." You've been de-douched There is no good excuse for the long delay but I've always wanted to contribute information to the show instead of just cash now I can A couple episodes back he played a clip of Patrick Moore talking about how Greenpeace's goals shifted over time In his speech he said that they regarded humans as a plague on nature which reminded me of an insane group I know called the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

1:14:28 I believe we talked about them some... I think so, yeah. A few hundred shows ago. Couple of episodes ago Apart from that, oh! I want to request a birthday for my son and myself So got that on the list Thank you both for the incredibly entertaining and informative show like many others report I find it no agenda eases My mind And improves my sanity in the face of the MSM's incessant bullshit machines For years I ignored news entirely because I couldn't stand how fake, misleading and downright sick it was. All those years what i really needed to be doing was laughing at it. Seriously though... It always bothered me not to be informed but now I am both informed and entertained on a regular basis AND have a healthier more realistic view

1:15:12 of the world. Sometimes it's hard to listen to co-workers, family and friends spout verbatim the lines they're fed by the MSM but I've learned to just nod and smile...it's better that way." Keep up with the fantastic work! And i'll keep my end of the bargain coming more steadily in the future. Michael thank you very much Michael. I did have a thought as I was reading that um these days pretty much everybody you know has been quoted or interviewed for some thing And all you would have to say is, when you were interviewed for the school paper or when someone was quoting you did they get it all right? Guaranteed they'll say no of course not. That's the only way that can help people understand that maybe what they're hearing seeing reading is not entirely correct But that was the opener for me man When I first got interviewed by The New York Times and go everything wrong Not everything but a lot

1:16:10 And they had the checker even called when they still had that. I don't know if they still do it or not, the fact checker? Yeah well that's when they had them. Yep so that's what I said, I don't think they have many more and... They used to have fact checkers until I don't know when they got rid of him probably in the 890s sometime No i think I was still got a call from a fact checker in the 2000s Maybe that was a London fan of finance. Anyway, that's what we've got We've got that's it but this is not a good day It was worse than Thursday Yes, it was worse than Thursday I have to say this is true well maybe we're doing something wrong I Curiously I was reading one email with somebody so actually there's a meetup somebody said you're doing her on no Let me just get through the meat up okay? This is Tim who's

1:17:00 in Michigan. The Michigan folks have a little clique that they're trying to make happen because they're all... When I was there, we did two or three meetings with different people and they all seemed to get along with each other. He's going to meet… They were going to have a meeting but then when there was a storm came in July so now they're gonna have a meet-up On the 7th, or I'm sorry on April 1st, April Fool's Day at 7pm at Ashley's Bar and Grill in Westland. So anybody who is interested if you're in Michigan go there. Ashley's Bar and Grill of Westland in Westland, Michigan but he says After last Thursday's No Agenda episode, the one where you just referred to he says he's talking to the group. Which I thought was one of the strongest. Hmm. I feel like meeting up let's try again he says and

1:17:51 I thought it was a good, it was a strong show too. And we've had a lot of really strong shows recently but for some reason nobody's...I don't know but we got that letter and then the other guy who says were angry and making him depressed and we have negative news he wants positive input. He wants good happy news. Happy news! Hmmmm. Yeah let me see. Oh I don't know. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking. Nope nope I don't think so I mean, happy news? What's happy news? It was just new. Well... Happy news! Ooh a puppy was born and kittens live This was my favorite story of the week. The report says DEA agents attending sex parties in Colombia should have known the prostitutes in attendance were paid with cartel funds So this report says, the drug enforcement agency agents had sex parties with hookers which I think...I'd like to know a little bit about what exactly constitutes a sex party

1:18:44 just to fill me in. It was an orgy, they'd say so which seems to be a sex party I think it's sex but i would guess that the sex party was just a place where you pick up hookers possibly and so the only mistake appears from the report is that they didn't know that the hooker were prepaid Prepaid by the cartel. Prepaid hooker! This is a shocker, I would never expect it. Gambling? Is going on now?! ...were paid with cartel funds The same drug cartels the officers were supposed to be fighting To make matters worse most of the sex parties occurred in government leased quarters where agents laptops and Blackberry devices were present Potentially exposing them to extortion blackmail or coercion

1:19:31 The report even says that a foreign officer allegedly provided protection for the DEA agent's weapons during the parties. Ten agents were investigated and seven admitted to DEA investigators that they participated in the sex parties, their punishment was nothing more than suspensions ranging from just two to ten days. I'm shocked! Shocked to find gambling is going on in here! I think this is a recruitment story They need more people at the DEA and I am all-in That's a great interpretation of that story. What else could it be? And they got... Yeah, because it is not a story with any sort of legs. It just... yeah! There's also... well you know we need to... Recruitment Let's close out this episode. They're having more fun than I am sitting here Better than that drone crap man Seriously Alright let me thank everybody I have two quick PR mentions already mentioned the push bullet pushover bad signal Also Thank You very much Sir James Black Knight Of The No Agenda Roundtable who registered letsgetsocial dot today

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1:22:18 There's a couple of cleanup operations underway and I wanted to at least highlight them. And with clean up, I mean our good old two to the head... And i've had this in the show notes or my prep at least for um the past whoo I think it's three shows now Ukraine first! Two high-ranking Ukrainian officials have been arrested during a televised gov... I'm sorry this is not the right clip wrong clip uh there's a I think there's been four Shoot, I'm sorry this clip got lost. There's been four suicides of former and high-ranking officials in Ukraine Ukrainian government they just seem to be so depressed they're killing themselves or maybe it's some kind of cleanup job

1:23:02 And it's all suicide. And then we have this report that came in. A decorated Boston police officer and army veteran remains in a medically induced coma tonight after being shot in the face during a traffic stop Officer John Moynihan was one of several gang unit officers trying to pull over a car Well, Police Commissioner William Evans says video shows officer Moynihan approaching the driver's door when he shot point-blank The suspect then continued firing firing at officers as he tried to run. Police returned fire, killing the suspect at the scene. A woman driving by she was also injured but is expected to be okay and Moynihan by the way served as an army ranger in Iraq. He was honored at the White House for helping save a fellow officer following the shootout with the Boston Marathon bombing suspects in 2013. How annoying is that? I hate it when good witnesses just get shot in the face

1:24:00 Well, that's just a shame. It is! It's a big shame. That was not the same as an execution shooting in the Florida apartment? No no or the guy who was being interrogated and shot in the back of the head by the FBI... That's what I meant yeah that was in Florida I believe it could be well there were also there were some executions of three different drug dealers and that was not in Florida but that wasn't part of it doesn't matter It doesn't matter. No, the story's out as it is done. Yeah, it is I've been diving into a couple things as deeply as possible and not really getting very far with the things that wanted... The main one would be Iran negotiations. I decided to…it was time for me to really get down into it and I really just want to start off with a list of the names

1:24:52 of the negotiators who are back at the table, I believe today or certainly Monday in Lausanne, Switzerland. This is the so-called P5 plus one which includes and this is not discussed very widely but it includes representatives from the United States China, UK France Germany and Russia And apparently all these different countries are represented at the table with Iran for what we're being told is the agreement on Iran's nuclear program. I'm glad you brought this up because something is interesting to me when you watch this coverage of this thing in France, Van Katt for example it's like alien

1:25:38 compared to what the coverage is to us with Kerry being in charge of the whole thing. Apparently if it wasn't for him, nothing would be going on and it just seems as though there's a disconnect or misconnect on this story about what's really happening. It did you know... So what we're being told weird yes well this is what I had It's one of these no agenda things that even I have to catch myself at and say, wait a minute. I'm doing this all wrong. I need to be finding out who is at that table? Who are the negotiators and what are they really talking about now? that this, especially if you look at who's in there. Why does Russia have to be in there? Why does Germany have to be in there? Why is China in there? Why... Well it must have to do with geopolitical issues that on one hand it must be dealing with Syria. Syria has support from Iran and has support from Russia. The Russians have the port there. In fact here's a little clip this is Assad did an interview with Charlie Rose which will air tonight

1:26:43 And here is a little clip of that. Tell me about this sexuality, it's in your DNA. Sorry... Here it is! In a rare interview the dictator of Syria appears to be By the way I'm sorry Bashir al-Assad is not a dictator That would imply that he was that he seized power or that he was not democratically elected You can say what you want about the elections but dictator I believe is a false premise Would you agree? They're using that term to besmirch him. In a rare interview, the dictator of Syria appears to be pushing open a door to negotiations. Bashar al-Assad... The setup is great! The setup is he wants negotiations but when you hear what Assad has to say it's quite the opposite. ...Assad sat down with Charlie Rose today in an interview for 60 Minutes

1:27:34 Charlie asked Assad about Secretary of State John Kerry's recent comment that the U.S is open to talking about an end to Syria's devastating civil war. If I want to mention the statement of Kerry, regarding the dialogue. I would say what we have in Syria so far is only a statement, nothing concrete yet no facts no new reality regarding the political approach of United States toward our situation our problem our conflicts in Syria but as principle in Syria we could say that every dialogue

1:28:14 is a positive thing. And we're going to be open to any dialogue with anyone, including the United States regarding anything based on mutual respect." What kind of communication is there between your government and the American government? There's no direct communication. None at all?" I find that to be somewhat disturbing. Do have NO dialogue? We're not talking at all? Zero? No, nothing yet! That's what the United States... Nothing YET?! Nothing Yet! And he does not look happy, because he knows that

1:28:56 He's...if they really want to get rid of him, it's easy. Just boom you're dead." So he's just doing whatever or he is a placeholder for whatever Iran... I believe... Whatever scam is coming our way? So the question is really what exactly are they negotiating and we know from our Iranian sources that the Iranians locally in Tehran believe this is intended to actually give Iran a nuclear weapon which we have some theories about, which are not crazy. But how hard can it be? It's obvious what they want. They want to have a nuclear program and we have to determine if you just look at the face value of what is being reported... We have to be able to count how many centrifuges

1:29:38 So I went looking for who are the negotiators. These are always big teams... I should throw in a little side piece of information here, if you look into it… maybe we should confirm this with Atomic Rod but it's my understanding from intellectual sources academic sources that I should say that the Iranians are some of the most advanced in nuclear research in the world. They're like top guys. Wouldn't surprise me! Which is one of the things that they just liked. Of course we killed a couple of them, right? Remember when they were dying off... Yeah but the Israelis killed one guy murdered him because he was one of the top guys but apparently it's a very promising program I don't know what their up to So i have a list

1:30:24 A few of the negotiators, the ones who were there but by no- because I'm looking for industry business. I'm looking for an oil guy...I'm looking for anybody who somehow is involved in something that wouldn't necessarily need to be at this if just talking about sanctions versus nuclear centrifuges so here's what i found um Mohammed Javad Zarif he's an Iranian diplomat Now, he...it's always interesting to see and this is all based on the Book of Knowledge Wikipedia. So he was at University of Tehran then he was permanent representative for Iran's United Nations all that seems okay but then he was head of UN disarmament committee in New York so I lived in New York for a while. He studied at...let's see

1:31:14 At age 17 he left Iran for the United States. This guy hasn't even been there, I guess! Drew college prep school then he went to San Francisco State Graduate Studies... Graduate School of International Studies University of Denver So seems to be a bit of a shill Then we have Ali Akbar Salehi There's a number of colleges in Colorado. They're all spook colleges that are all spook colleges, and I've never heard of University of Denver So I have to assume That it might be in there category. It says it's the Wikipedia so who knows Ali Akbar Saleh is

1:31:55 head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, so it may make sense that he is there. He was also the Iranian representative to IAEA — that's the International Atomic Energy Agency — and he...I think he also had an interesting scholastic career? Yes! Received a Bachelor of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering from the American University of Beirut in 1971, PhD in Nuclear Engineering from MIT Okay, that seems like he might be a nuclear expert. I would think... And then we have Fereydoun Abbasi Davani, Iranian nuclear scientist head of the Atomic Energy Organization. He was he—I think he also had some interesting schooling? Hmm, I can't find that off the bat. We're getting to the interesting ones and then a name popped up! Oh i know this name! Mohammed ElBaradei

1:32:52 Do you remember Mohamed ElBaradei? The name definitely rings a bell. This was the guy who was on deck to possibly become the new president of Egypt when they were in turmoil, when the coup took place and he is the guy who is part of the Crisis Institute, what's it called, the International Crisis Group. This is the big shill organization kind of like Council on Foreign Relations All right, go on. Well this international crisis group is interesting that he's at the table because this is you know who's in there and it was like Soros and all these guys are back in there the International Crisis Group is a bunch of shills and and he tried to get in he was on deck and of course that didn't happen

1:33:42 that I liked was Wendy Sherman, Wendy Ruth Sherman. She seems to be leading a lot of the negotiations this i got from the state.gov website you can't even get a list of the U.S negotiators from your own State Department she's Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs but her career is interesting As she was the director of Emily's List, co-founding CEO of Fannie Mae and worked directly for the Albright Stonebridge Group.

1:34:22 which of course is the Madeline Albright, former Secretary of State consultancy. So whether she is negotiating on behalf of the clients of the Albright group or whether she may be feeding back information to the clients of the Albright group and neither is...of course... Yeah, you got that spook white hair She's got the elite like Fifi Lagarde kind of. Yeah it's a yeah that look And so I continue to... Well, this would be a good woman to deconstruct in. Follow. Yeah follow. And so she is the one — this is how I got this let me see our intent is to absolutely end this on November 4th that's an old report at 31st is the deadline for these round of negotiations with apparently as President Obama red line which means it'll just go on for you know the month of May. Doesn't mean anything. It means nothing. Sounds good

1:35:18 And this is all I could find right now. And i'd love to know who was there from Russia, who was there from the UK? Who was there from Germany? Uh...I think it's more than just one representative. There's a lot of people um so and then maybe we'll figure out what this is really about The only thing that you know makes sense to me is we're doing concessions We're doing a deal It's just about the numbers how much will Iran get cut in on these deals Just look at the players Your uncle might know something about this woman because she was under...she works for everybody. She was a baker, I think right? Back in the Baker days? Well she was the counselor for the United States Department of State and special advisor to President Clinton and Secretary of State and North Korea Policy Coordinator. Ooh! Okay, I'll send off a note. I can't say is she a douche. I'd say hey did you work with her or would ya? Gotta be kind of cool with Don, y'know. Let him go a little easy. I don't see that's she ever worked a day in her life.

1:36:20 There's always some government thing. I mean, she did the director of Emily's List. Yeah? Director doesn't mean you worked or did anything. She was the director of Maryland's child welfare and she was a social worker and it wasn't Fannie Mae that founded it. It was the Fannie Mae Foundation which is a foundation... Oh this is what I got from from The WikiLeaks so... She is a careerist government worker official elite representative This is of course also in some ways by proxy most likely related to what's happening in Yemen. And this is very interesting that we have this coalition and they have a name for it, the Decisive Storm Coalition... Yeah, it sounds like Saudi Arabia made that name up? No!

1:37:17 This is so there was a I one of the shows. I like kind of like to watch mm-hmm on RT is Boom bust with it with that blonde and it's about the one with the kind of fun Aaron aide I believe your name, okay? And she can walk in heels and so she'll probably be around longer why she has a career whatever the case She is...puts on a pretty good show as a stock market show. It's a stock market show that has all kinds of kind of twisted stuff, that it's like, well, that's kind of interesting and they had this guy who was one of the regulars who said boom, lot of these guys are doomsayers which is always amusing and he had read from one of his something I guess he wrote in 2009 talking about the Houthis being the biggest threat to Saudi Arabia and this was one of his investment reports

1:38:09 And I, to be honest about it really never heard of this operation until recently. And I don't know about you but it seemed like they just showed up and apparently they've been around and there's some sort of threat the Saudi Arabia that's why the only reason the Saudis are getting involved in this from my perspective is because there's something else we don't know about then were not being told by the media that involves Saudi Arabia and these guys And the other thing about the Houthis... I have a thought. They always say, everybody in the media, all this everybody and it started off as believed to be sponsored by Iran, believed to be now they say they are sponsored their Iranian front which i don't believe. I don't believe either

1:38:56 The only similarities that they're both and here's a good kind of a kicker They're both Shiites, but the guy they ran out of town. The guy was he's a Shiite So that that doesn't wash there's something doing this something else going on this whole scene I have a geopolitical theory one do you have a clip here? That want to play this is Saudis versus Houthis? Yeah, you might as well play that. airport today in Sanaa. A spokesman for the operations said the Saudi-led coalition is prepared to take further military action if warranted. There are no plans at this stage for ground forces operations, but if the need arises, the Saudi ground forces and those of our friends are ready and will repel any aggression

1:40:02 Meanwhile, four Egyptian warships are en route to the coast of Yemen to secure the strategic sea passage off its coast. Yeah there you go that's what I found and i think it would be a good idea for anybody who is listening right now if you can just pull up a map John do this with me of Yemen and very quickly you'll see geopolitical strategic importance of Yemen It's not about oil It's certainly not about the resources Yemen may or may not have. Now, the new capital of I guess the Houthis have made this a new capital of Yemen is Aden and there we have the port of Aden near the Gulf of Aden

1:40:44 And this is on the southern, not quite the southern tip but the port is in South Yemen. It's a big one and a lot of pipelines coming in from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman to that port and then they have pipelines under the sea out a little bit further where they have a big oil transmission station so ships can load and then sail off But if you really look at the geographic region, Yemen is right there at what they call the gateway of tears. I had not heard this term...I love it! Which connects the Red Sea with the Gulf of Aden and this is all about shipping. If you want to ship, you can go around the Cape

1:41:31 But really you want to go the Suez Canal. So, you have to go through this... You have to around the corner of Yemen... It's a choke point! Of course what is right across from Yemen on the Sudan side is Djibouti and Djibouti where we have our drone base so that's how we patrol the Gulf of Aden all the way up to the Suez Canal And I think that's the only thing. The South Africa route, the Cape, the BRICs are pretty much in charge of that but it seems we need to protect our interests, our Saudi friends' interests and maybe we're just stretched too thin or probably providing a lot of advisors but the Houthis just have to go because we need to install somebody there who keeps everything calm because that port is incredibly important

1:42:25 And that's all I can see really. I don't see why we can't make friends with them, with the Houthis? Yeah why not they never said anything they're not well... Well they did their slogan was death to Israel death to America if you remember they talked to one of the head guys and yeah they have a motto which is kill america which uh which is you know life death pursuit of happiness and death to America is kind of their motto. And they said, and I don't say why not? They said it was just hyperbole because it was made as popular to say that but they would be glad to do business with us." Yeah! Happened... And I believe them. Why wouldn't you know they... Well maybe... Send somebody over like they send Kerry over to talk to him and then they shoot him okay

1:43:15 That means they probably were dishonest. But I don't...until that happens, I don't see any reason that we can do a deal with them yet with the Saudis like that." Adamus- Well, we're not doing it so it's the Saudis who are doing it. John- The Saudis are the ones who are more concerned about them than we are. Adamus- Well, what if Mexico was overthrown? You know, and we'd probably start thinking about doing stuff here. John- Numerous times. We tried to do it. And how'd that work out? Yeah, I was still Mexican. Exactly! We've still got Mexicans... hmmm But that's really why Yemen- That's another run at Texas before all is said and done This is the geopolitical importance of the region and I think we'll see a lot of Djibouti activity A lot of drones It's gotta be this only way it can go

1:44:10 for this. But you know... Well, I'm still of the belief that there's something that we both have not picked up on that we need just to keep looking at and it probably is related to all other things this but right now we have six or seven conflicts going in uh in the Middle East. Well, you know, globalization takes time! That's my point! It's so obvious that that's what's taking place Just the full rubble isation ladies and gentlemen it is time to Exactly yeah Okay, what else we got anything? Oh you didn't have a little discussion about Assad I do want to but I did have a clip about him. I want to get that out of the way before he's not moved domestic or whatever

1:44:59 Just to make sure that the public is still aware, even though we've proven it's been proven by scientists 97% agree and it has been shown by certain universities and people who have boots on the ground and everything in between that chemical attack took place in Syria was done by the rebels. Yes But no, we gotta make sure that the public still thinks because the public is you know they just memes. They're all looking for me to reinforce facts as reinforced it again with the Asajj and Assange Assad and Kim weapons slip back into the narrative just casually Still to come on The NewsHour Syrian President Bashar al-Assad rejects charges that his military used chemical weapons

1:45:44 It never ends, does it? Just never ends with these people. Just keep telling the lie propagate what someone that what The New York Times reported somewhere and is good just the sad part. Just keep doing it over and over because you only have to...you don't have how many people listen to No Agenda I don't know well I'm guessing around 250 thousand could be spit in the media bucket there is yeah totally It's just a small percentage of people who will not be voted off the island. And we need to... And we have people falling overboard constantly, which is always a problem so we can't even keep our own listeners sometimes because we're depressing. Oh well let's have a little fun then. This was something in this is true media deconstruction for you here. We have Ted Cruz

1:46:39 Went on the CBS morning show. Okay, can I do a pre Ted? Pre-analysis Ted Cruz clip of course I just want to do one thing this is because I know this won't work into what you're up to I Just want to point out that they talked about this on Gwen Ifill's The Obama hagiographer Washington Week which is a terrible show by the way extremely boring and she brought up the Ted Cruz announcement and and smirked as if this guy is a complete idiot. Moron, idiot loser, jerk off. Moron, idiot loser even though he's very well educated. Crazy Republican! And she makes a snide little comment you're gonna have to listen to it's very close to the end of this clip where somebody one of the...the guy who was the supposed expert about Ted Cruz says something and she says under her breath but its very carefully you can hear right? As If

1:47:37 Those who've lost their health insurance, lost their doctors have faced skyrocketing health insurance premiums. Imagine in 2017 a new president signing legislation repealing every word of Obamacare But before he gets to run against an actual Democrat, Cruz has first to face down more than a few Republicans. So how is that shaking out Dan? Well I talked to one of his folks today and they said well at this point He's the only candidate so it kind of got a clear field ahead for another couple of weeks. He's the only one Right And she had a smirk on her face after the clip and she was just so like this clown oh What a dork

1:48:26 And she was just saying, I just am disgusted by this kind of reporting. At this level... She is like one of the high-end most respected public news journalists there are and her career is. It's unconscionable. I'm no fan of Ted Cruz and particularly... I don't like Ted Cruz at all. Particularly the way he speaks. He's creepy, he's slimy, he's iffy. The creepy part about Ted Cruz before you go into your bit is when he tries to smile It is a square smile that looks forced. He needs to work on this because there's muscles all over his face. His voice, his voice is shite!

1:49:04 His voice comes across...it's like nails on a chalkboard. John Ligato Yeah, well he doesn't have it prayer but he will at least add some life into any debate that happens. He is not dumb. Very successful lawyer, prosecutor, state senator wife, Goldman Sachs and these are the power couple yeah they got connection. It is definitely not done buddy buddy doesn't be he's not he's not electable that's the word so He went on CBS this morning and he was asked about a couple of things.

1:49:44 And I, here's where I heard about it and I went and looked at this is distortion of media which is why I think this is kind of interesting. Then how that propagates throughout because obviously mainstream media which is predominantly progressive liberal Democrat left wing um is really pushing to make this guy look like a complete crazy and just its...and I find it obscene and offensive anyone who wants to run for president take that seriously It's a big ass deal uh and if you're Cutting people down who announced to run, then you're just a dick. It's un-American is what I think it is so here's Bill Maher on his little program and he is going to read... He's not going to play clip but he's going to read his interpretation from a transcript of Ted Cruz on CBS This Morning. Question, Bill? Really?! No! Not really! Exactly! Most people would just answer it. Ted Cruz' mind goes oh an opportunity to lie So he was asked apparently what music do you like

1:50:44 So this is what he said, and I- it's not important exactly why he said it because it tells something about this guy. He said, ''I grew up listening to classic rock.'' My music changed... my music taste changed on 9-11. Who the f*** thinks that's true? He said, ''I didn't like how rock music responded.. ..and country music, the way they responded resonated with me.'' ''I had an emotional reaction that said these are my people.'' Right, I love the rodeo and Paula Deen and books about dead kids who go to heaven and come back. That's who I am So I looked up how rock responded with three giant fundraisers December September 21st all four networks showed America a tribute to heroes Billy Joel Bruce Springsteen you two Tom Petty Neil Young Bon Jovi Pearl Jam a virtual roster of classic rock

1:51:40 I thought it was interesting the way this was presented and i want to deconstruct so you can see how this works. I got the full clip of Ted Cruz, and there was a full on question listen to the whole thing think if he listened and think if you believe he is sincere or not and then Mars interpretation only goes to money money and free you know money in benefit concerts Which doesn't necessarily mean, you know that they did a good thing. I'll get into that in a minute Here's the actual piece You just heard Mara make him sound like a douchebag I know we've got to wrap it up But I do have one more thing because I see headlines where people say who is Ted Cruz So this is what I'd like to know What kind of music do you listen to if I came over on a Saturday night? What are we doing? What are you watching on TV? What do you do for fun?

1:52:28 On TV, I just finished watching the third season of House of Cards. That's his problem right there? You've got to work on that man. They really like that? You have good taste in tv shows! Fortunately there are fewer murders in politics and real life What is your music? Music is interesting...I grew up listening to classic rock and I'll tell you sort of an odd story My music taste changed on 9-11 And it's a very strange, I actually intellectually find this very curious but on 9-11. I didn't like how rock music responded

1:53:04 and country music collectively, the way they responded it resonated with me. And I have to say it just as a gut level...I had an emotional reaction that says these are my people and so ever since 2001 I listen to country music but I'm not country music fan because I didn't listen to it prior to 2001. Now I hear you on country music again final sentence final sentence You should be elected president because just one sentence Because I'll tell the truth and I'll do what I said it would do. Okay, so very different than Bill Maher's read of it It is like these are my people now And now I wanted to find out why he thought country music did a better job Then if you didn't take me long I have a report this from nothing vh1 and Everybody was saying come this was if you go back in I put a couple articles in the show notes across-the-board

1:54:00 mainstream media was reporting that country music did a much better job, mainly because they wrote songs. They didn't just do free concerts everywhere. They wrote a ton of songs which are of course very kind of boot in the ass you know America or whatever like Hank Williams Jr., America Will Survive, Charlie Daniels' Ain't No Rag It's A Flag we had of course Keith Toby Keith had the song that caused a bit of controversy What the hell was the name of that song again? Courtesy of The Red, White and Blue subtitled The Angry American. But universally mainstream media was talking about

1:54:40 about the country community really doing a great job from a patriotic standpoint, however convoluted it may seem now. But Bill Maher can only equate it to people singing their own songs, elites in the front row for a concert that raised some money that God knows where that went. I personally if it was premeditated if it was premeditated, I think this classifies Ted Cruz and the Ted Cruz campaign as brilliant. And i'll tell you why... If you look at country music sales across the board in United States in 2014 and I'm going to throw in country Christian gospel which is an extra 17 percent your total is about 48% of the United States who buy country music

1:55:33 And you get country radio. This is what no one is seeing, country radio... They still have disc jockeys that if you ever watch the Country Music Awards they're all thanking radio. You never hear anyone at the Grammy's say thank you radio! No, no. Country music which is a huge percentage of the American population listen to it they're going to love what he said and he's going to be all over country radio and they will support him because of this one interview and how it's been highlighted. And then you have the morons going on MSNBC, this is Ebony editor... senior editor Jamila Lemieux and here's what she said as she started off in interview when they asked about Ted Cruz and ha-ha he says he likes country music! Nothing says let's go kill some Muslims like country music There ya'go good work

1:56:31 Nothing says let's go kill some Muslims like country music. Wow! It was so bad they had to issue an apology. We have a programming note, A few minutes ago on this show a guest made a comment about country music that comment was not appropriate and we want to be clear this network does not condone it. Oh yeah I guess they got some little bit of pushback from the executives at The Network Somebody called in and said, what are you guys doing? You're skating on thin ice already at MSNBC. Just alienated half of the country! Yeah well... And then really alienate half of the country. You alienated about 1% of the country which would account for the number people that actually watch it MSNBC. So you probably just alienated more people

1:57:16 I did on behalf of MSNBC than they did. Well, this is true that numbers are better. Yeah, this is true. It's terrible. So I think it sounded pretty he sounded pretty legit when we just came out when he said when you talked about that? I can understand and it's a little strange while he has a politician. Yep. And we can't forget that. And it's not beyond these guys and he smart. But that's why I think the country radio route is, I think you're right. I think you're dead on this was a scheme. It worked like a charm in these counter does it counter efforts from Mara and the other people just made it better? Yep exactly yeah fall right into the trap that's a 10 point analysis thank you I'll be here all week That was a good one alright well I got to want little thing to talk about them Yeah good

1:58:06 There's two clips. Well, actually first let me play a clip and this is kind of a version of Ask Adam without we don't need the theme no jingle okay? Oh you could play the thing if it's not real it's not real The clip, I'm gonna tell you what the clip is but let me set it up. This free food for zoo animals clip apparently in San Francisco at the Oakland Zoo which is one of the... It's a great zoo to visit because it is such an old-fashioned pathetic zoo. You go there and say oh my god these poor animals! These mangy chimps that won't even throw shit at you

1:58:47 They're all depressed. When did you last go to the zoo? A number of years ago, I last time went was with Jay, I believe. I haven't been for a while. Probably five or six years but maybe it's improved. I'll go check it out just to make sure. Anyway so they came up with this program where people can bring their own fruits and nuts and I guess... To feed the animals?! Well first they were feeding elephants mainly And I guess some other animals. And so they put the animals away and they opened a pit area, you know, the outside part, and they let people go into that area and put like a pineapple or bunch of carrots all around its place so the animals can come in and eat it. And then you'd be like a gallery of people watching the animals eat the food you brought

1:59:38 Okay. And it seemed very popular and was very happy. Yeah, I was unhappy with the reporting for one simple reason which you may or may not be able to identify in the report but play the clip and you'll see what galls me. Once their work was done and the elephants brought in people in the crowd got to watch the fruits of their labor Most of the time you come to the zoo and you get to hope you see them eat something. And this time, you actually get to put the food there." About two-thirds of the donated fruits and veggies goes to elephants – they have the biggest appetite after all! But all herbivores here at the Zoo will get a chance to sample the donated fruits and veggies today. This is a great opportunity for primates and actually all our animals to have different types of fruits and veggies that they wouldn't get all the time As the animals chomped down on their treats, the crowd took in the sight

2:00:30 It was hard to tell- Uh, gee... Would it be about the VEGGIES?! Oh God. This is not okay man! This has to stop! So have more kale Have more kale Have more kale Have more kale Have more kale You will obey You have more tail. I think that really works on me, I want to have some kale now. Go for some. Anyway yeah veggies she's one girl says and then the other one says and then veggies veggies veggie you know this is not there are vegetables

2:01:11 balls, a carrier or something. Veggies is just demeaning to the... To the product? To an entire... But this comes up again. This is the reason I wanted to play this because it's going to come up again in this next report where there's a... This is out of Europe. This, I think was on France 24 and it was a report about how they're trying... And by the way, and I've said this before on the show and it's probably in one of the old red books that the long-term goal of the elites at some point is to kill everybody. Besides killing everybody, they want to... humiliate the regular folk. And I think one of the routes is to get them to eat insects as dinner. Yeah, this reporting on insects has been going on for a year or two about protein and everything. By all the great protein you should all eat crickets! Look at these stupid slaves eating crickets! Eating crickets while we eat the filet mignon

2:02:06 Anyway, so I found a couple of things out because they're trying to feed cattle and pigs these bugs. And they found ways of grinding the bugs up and apparently that is some dirt you can feed these animals reduces the amount of gas... Paul, I have question hold on aren't cows herbivores? They don't eat Animals? Cows? They can be, they apparently do like...they will eat bugs because in the grass when they're roaming around they're eating plenty of bugs. Yeah but they're eating grass and then what the bugs are just like whipped cream. Well they were trying to feed them bugs but the irony is this is that they can't do it legally! They can or cannot? Cannot

2:02:51 Because of mad cow disease, there's a rule that the animals cannot eat other animals. And certainly not their own. You can't have them. That's a bug! Okay? There is no mad cow bug so they're having these problems this is all happening in Germany and meanwhile the report continues and it discusses some other stuff which brings in more of the I can just see at first play clip one and then we'll get to bugs part out of the way It's good for the health of the chicken and also to be... Stop, stop. This is the big joke! Not feeding animals goes down to chickens they can't feed chickens bugs

2:03:35 It's good for the health of the chicken and also to be less or independent from the soy from Southern America. Are consumers ready to eat chickens fed on a bug-based diet? For now, one out two people say no but new science thinks this will change and eventually we'll go a step further The advantage of bringing first insects into animal nutrition is to improve the acceptance of direct consumption of insects for humans. Oh, it's mind control! There was an element there... Good clip! The kicker was one out of two people don't think it's okay for chickens to be fed bugs? What do they think chicken are supposed to eat?! Chickens eat all kinds of cr- chickens eat chickens

2:04:25 Chickens eat everything, but when you have chickens in your yard you don't have any bugs. They eat bugs or huge bug eaters they're great to keep a yard bug free yes But one out of two people and by the way in the eggs from those chickens And I can attest to this because we have chickens are better than anything You can buy on this store from a factory? But meanwhile somehow how did the public at large and this is in Europe in Europe oh Come to the conclusion that it's not a good thing for chickens to eat bugs? Is this a factual regulation in the EU?

2:05:03 Apparently, for the farms for these large operations...and I notice it with the best eggs that I can get around here always is vegetarian diet for chickens. But now and I never realized it but people have been brainwashed into not realizing what chickens really eat. They do eat everything but they eat bugs and they like bugs and they eat lots of bugs this is a natural thing for birds to do! They eat bugs and somehow the public at large doesn't think its right? How does that happen? Well, it just gets crazier as we go into the... Let's take a visit to parts of Europe where they're introducing a new idea which is going to come over here. Apparently some 10 cities have already adopted this concept and just wait until they start feeding us bugs But what if reducing pollution in food production was as simple as just eating less meat Here in Ghent the vegetarian capital of Europe Thursdays known as Veggie Day

2:06:00 The city was the first in the world to introduce the initiative and it's been widely embraced even in schools. Today, it was goulash with vegetables and Greek pasta This school offers parents a choice today 60% of the pupils are eating vegetables the rest however still eat meat These are two kids of my class And one is eating a veggie meal With the vegetable we just talked about, and he's eating a normal meal. They have always the choice because obligation is no good." On Thursday Lucas opts for vegetables but wouldn't do so every day. That's because I also think meat is good

2:06:43 Municipal offices, hotels and restaurants have also taken up the challenge. Some offer extra vegetarian options others prepare a menu void of all meat Today is veggie Thursday so we have beetroot salad with yogurt We have pakora, stuffed Gougette with nutments. You can add a lot of flavors, there's a lot of vegetables to play with There are textures and spices. There is a lot to do with vegetables The idea has since been exported to 10 cities in Germany the United States and Brazil As more people change the way they eat in the name of environment and animal welfare

2:07:33 It's coming, Veggie Thursday in the name of the environment and animal welfare. So we're now eating for political reasons That's a political reason to eat! Veggie Thursday? Veggie Thursday is coming to a town near you. I think it should be... It's in Austin within the next... Why can't it be veggie Friday?! I like that... That's fish day You're stepping on the gas, Link. Oops oops sorry my mistake Veggie Thursday What's gonna come that's gonna collide with throwback Thursday. It's not gonna work with hashtags and stuff I'm just saying that they need to evaluate the day this use, but okay the idea is set it like that Veggie sticking in Europe for a moment by the way should mention This is again just another attack on meat-eating By the elites yeah who want to keep all the good meat for themselves? Yeah

2:08:23 So my favorite new thing to be looking at is this unintended consequences of technology. In the Netherlands on Friday, Friday morning at 930, the entire northern half of the country was without electricity. And very interesting to see what happened, besides the obvious people stuck in elevators. This went on for an hour and a half at least for the majority of it but stores had to close no one could process because of course The Lowlands is pretty much a pin only cashless society

2:09:00 So, of course all transportation. All the trains nothing worked but also traffic lights Schiphol airport had to temporarily shut down no flights could land there and the first question is how the heck does this happen? You can't that there's no backup system But then when you look at all the different pieces that completely fall apart Just because of the basics of electricity not having that, the country was frozen. Completely frozen! You have to see some of the videos that are put in the show notes... ...Of traffic It was crazy it looked like Russian traffic you know where they have all the dashboard cams and always driving like crazy I thought it was one of the most frightening things I've witnessed particularly because they don't really know what happened or how it happened Or why there was no backup

2:09:56 I would say this is a worrisome event. But really look at the businesses... You can't take cash! Gas stations couldn't pump. Well, that's yeah there was electricity involved there but there's no reason you can't go to a store and give somebody cash or especially a small store that doesn't need much. Well the problem is people just don't carry that much cash anymore. That's the problem it's not that a lot of stores can obviously process cash But the slaves of Gitmo Nation lowlands just don't have the cash anymore. Very disturbing and of course there's no analysis of really what it meant to society, they're just talking about the technical pieces of it I'm sure was a glitch and then you were correct John as Mark from London exile in exile from North Dublin wrote

2:10:49 Thank you for your courage and coverage of the Irish water debacle. You'll recall on Thursday we talked about Ireland now proposing a law for water which no one has ever been charged for in its history to automatically deduct that, just take it right out of your bank account and you said water meters? And producer Mark says yes! This is all about the issue of meters. Irish homes have never been metered, as you point out it's always been a free resource The government are trying to install meters in each home and people are now putting up printed out pieces of paper on the front doors advising that under no circumstances are agents of Irish water to assume they have permission to enter the home And they are fighting...and of course these will be smart meters They're fighting that So it is about the meters You were right Big Do Yeah Good call man Good call

2:11:44 Well, I got some Bergdahl stuff. Yeah that's kind of your wheelhouse? I have not been following that... Okay well they got the guy you know there now they're starting to debate what what's gonna happen Why is this only because of the trial that he did this is back in the news or...? This has to do with the Obama administration okay so it's a kind of a distraction But let's catch up to the story by playing the Bergdahl backgrounder.

2:12:35 Why did the White House get as far out in the direction they did when he was released? And what have they, I mean what's been their reaction within the White House since then as they've watched this thing unfold and in a sense unravel from where it was. My own senses that there is an underestimation of how angry people were in the military with the circumstances that led to his disappearance. Because remember, for five years everybody would go on a patrol in eastern Pakistan on that border or order to go and look for Bo Bergdahl. People risked their lives there are conflicting reports about whether people lost their lives. There's some family members who think that their loved one was killed in the search for Bob Bergdahl and at the time remember

2:13:15 of was that the U.S is leaving Afghanistan, that we're winding down and I think there's an understanding in the White House this is a victory because we've brought everybody home. And it's interesting that we have news of extension of troops this week because here were two instances where narrative of war was challenged. In case of drawdown, that the war would be over the case of Bo Bergdahl that he was a hero. So it was interesting to see our understanding of Afghanistan in a sense change so dramatically in the span 48 hours. So what do we know about the charges that he may face and could he actually face jail time? Yeah, It's a great question. Not a great question! Good work slow clap good work yeah he's been producing ladies and gentlemen good one no it's not a great question

2:14:06 Now, she does answer the question if you want to hear that. It's a short clip and it doesn't have another gag at the end. Wait stop! This was to me interesting because I didn't think they would try to do what she says they're going to do which is not give them any jail time Right now, the charge of desertion carries a five year sentence. But the more interesting charges misbehaving before the enemy which actually carries a life sentence. The climate inside the Pentagon that I'm seeing is one that is not looking to put him in jail remember he served in a sense five years and captivity but

2:14:41 there had to be a sense of accountability. So it seemed that the expectation is that they'll be, um, a negotiation done something...there's not jail time but he had to be in a sense held accountable as much for him as sort of the expectation within the military community. Amen! Fist bump I find out to be distressing Yeah The fix is in I'm trying not to report too much more. This is not going anywhere What are you eating? What are you eating? You have something in your mouth, i can hear it That's because i was coughing and had to put something in my mouth A lozenge No! No what are you putting in your mouth? A piece of black licorice It's the weekend

2:15:26 Yeah, ladies and gentlemen the Weekly Hooker Report comes from the House of Representatives March 25th 2015 where Ms. Barbara Lee a Democrat from California I believe Berkeley Submitted the following concurrent resolution which was referred to on to the Committee on Energy and Commerce This is also known as house Resolution 29 recognizing the disparate impact of climate change on women and the efforts of women globally to address climate change. Whereas, women in the United States and around the world are the linchpin of families and communities and are often the first to feel immediate and adverse effects of social environmental and economic stresses on their families and community." Hot flashes!

2:16:12 Whereas, women will disproportionately face harmful impacts from climate change. Particularly in poor and developing nations where women regularly assume increased responsibility for growing the family's food and collecting water fuel and other resources And here it is! Whereas food insecure women with limited socio-economic resources may be vulnerable to situations such as sex work transactional sex and early marriage that put them at risk for HIV STIs, unplanned pregnancy and poor reproductive health. Yes, conflict has a disproportionate impact on the most vulnerable populations including women and is fueled in the world's poorest regions by harsher climate leading to migration refugee crisis conflicts over scarce natural resources including land and water. And then finally where is... well finally in the whereas it is predicted that climate change will lead to increasing frequency and intensity of extreme weather conditions participating the occurrence of natural disasters around the globe

2:17:14 And so they have all that crap in there and then it is resolved, it's really a very short resolution. All that stuff is preamble presented as fact... presented as fact. Hereby it is resolved by the House of Representatives that Congress 1 recognizes the disparate impacts of climate change on women and the efforts of women globally to address climate change and two, encourages the use of gender-sensitive frameworks in developing policies to address climate change which account for the specific impacts of climate change on women. Because climate change will drive women to be hookers." Well it didn't say that! That's exactly what it said! No, thats' what is said but those words you added at the end are yours I'm sorry, the word hooker isn't used The word is transactional sex, sex work and early marriage Right

2:18:06 I find that an interesting tactic. Yeah, she's uh... That's Barbara Lee! She speaks for me. Good work! Good work Barbara Lee! Supposed budget cuts. This is just very short and I just have a bitch about it. Those budgets shrinks federal deficits by more than five trillion dollars over the next decade, mostly by cutting health care and other benefits

2:18:47 Okay, they're going to shrink the budget deficit by cutting health care. Not by cutting military spending that for example the Pentagon can't even audit itself we have no idea what they're doing with all that money and we're spending more money on the military than all countries in the world combined. Nah! That's fine let's give them more money and this other crap that corruption goes on and on let that go continue But let's cut health benefits because, you know... this seems like a good thing to cut. Yeah! Well it serves a dual purpose. Who are we kidding with this crap and why doesn't the public speak out? It's well hmm that's an obvious one

2:19:35 That is just for people who are overboard and say, oh it's not positive enough. It's up to you. You get the government you deserve. That's what you get. So be so easy. This election even change is not hard at all. No one feels like doing it and that's the problem. Fine All right. One thing that is local, then we should go thank some people this is now I saw this document unclassified document at first I didn't think it was real just because of the way it was presented and then I looked at him like this is not surprising Of course This has been certainly in Texas has been quite the talk of the town

2:20:12 I'm talking about Jade Helm 15. is to see if groups of these special forces can move around the civilian population without being noticed. You know, blend in so they can place themselves in strategic positions to handle different threat scenarios." The military says these are vital skills when it comes to an ever-changing threat but in the slideshow of the training exercise it says Texas will be simulated hostile territory while that hostile characterization didn't sit well with a far right radio host in Austin who told

2:20:57 told his listeners that he had access to the secret document that details a federal takeover in Texas. A libertarian website also picked up on the plan and before you know it, rallies were being held against the event but apparently this so-called secret document was published weeks ago in several local newspapers letting the public know the training was in the works still the Pentagon and local law enforcement are trying to knock down the rumors trying Everyone know that the feds have no plans to grab the Lone Star State apparently this kind of stuff just doesn't play very well In Texas, it's real. It's real I love it. I Love it. I'm gonna give you a clip with a day for that Oh, well, that's sure yeah because it's such a screwball story. I didn't know anything about this Okay, she looks up so is education?

2:21:49 So what you're telling me is that these boneheads, are gonna... What are these guys supposed to do? Wander around. Are they going to be in uniform or just blend in? Okay Bruce! Oh yeah that haircut's beautiful by the way I like the white sidewalls Let's just go around Austin blending in. Just roam around This reminds of it The Andronico store in downtown Berkeley Mimi figured this out There is some psychiatrist or shrink somewhere who apparently his or her specialty is agoraphobics. This has all developed over years that we figured this out. What is agrophobia? Agrophobia is... Fero veggies? Can't leave the house, you can't do anything, you're just kind of paralyzed unless you're in your own home and apparently Kim Basinger was one of those for a while

2:22:44 According to her ex-husband, whatever the case. So you can go to Andronico's every so often and find someone almost all the time actually in this big store someones and sometimes a couple of people They're standing around trying to blend in, looking like they're scared to death because the psychiatrist has sent them there. Okay here's the deal here's where your first goal is you gotta go into Andronico's shop around a little bit and then stay there five minutes and you can leave but they don't they go in there and then they usually standing somewhere frozen

2:23:21 Like their arms straight down and they're still stiff, and they're just bug-eyed Well I am I walk around downtown a lot. I'm gonna keep my eyes open now Yeah Keep it out because these guys are gonna be trying to blend in and you know they won't be able to cuz they're not locals And we already have enough annoyance on the street this Family what is it planned parenthood? Oh Save the children whatever it is And then with the red t-shirts in the same place every single day, and they're trying to adapt their message. Just speaking of morons on the street... Christina and I walk into The Spin Studio and they say hey would you like to learn about helping children? And about tattoos because Christina's got her tattoo it's like oh this is a novel approach! I said no but i have enough time just taking care of this one thank you very much. I don't like other children

2:24:12 By the way, I use that trick. You don't like children? No not that i don't like them...I've never had anyone ask me. They just assume I don't and guess I don't know That was my reason..that's what I'm gonna say you came up with this idea that someone says would you donate we're trying to save the earth and you'd say I hate it. The earth is flat. And I adopted this and it works So I'm going to Bonneray Foods and somebody's got some Save the Whales or something. Nuke the gay whales, I think is the... He wants save the whales and I said I hate whales

2:24:49 And it was like the guy who's like a deer in the headlights. It was like what? You just keep walking right you didn't Keep walking and they don't bother you they don't go after you They don't try to do the plan B, you know this skip logic They don't know what when you say hate whatever it is. They're doing I think But you don't always have to say you hate the topic its it's fun to come up with alternative things such as We said, would you like to help save the whales? And he's like beached whales is good eating and just keep moving. That's just now you're just being silly but I got to entertain myself too. Be honest about it All right. Hi, I think we should thank a few people I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, thats be fab! On No Agenda

2:25:46 Got a couple of notes too. Somebody didn't send the check, but they sent this in and I'm going to post these as anonymous military guy named Amen Fist Bump. I got interested in seeing some of the actual US propaganda! I was a loadmaster in the Air Force on a C-17 Globemaster III These are actual leaflets we threw out the back of the jet on airdrop missions in Afghanistan in 2008. And so they look like dollar bills and they're all in Arabic. So that's the trick? Hey, money! Well it looks like money but its same size and everything but it is all in Arabic and this actually very decorative and I'm going to post some of these to see what they say or at least we'll be able to dig up one of our Arab

2:26:39 listeners or producers and just ask them what it says, whatever the case. It's very funny but that's the extent of the note I don't even know where it came from is all hush-hush kind of a cool nice yeah yeah this interesting you get a kick out of it anyway so we do have some people to thank for show 708 Stuart rushing in Corvallis Oregon 176 56 And this looks like it's going to be, he leaves only 48 bucks for his knighthood and he is going to accomplish that on the 60th birthday next month. Nice! I referred him as sir and now he feels you know that he has been stealing from us. James Rockle in Waterloo Ontario Canada 12345 one of my favorite donations In the morning he says and onward

2:27:29 Sir Mike de cock to coke in or the cock and I'm just a cock. I said dick one two, three four five and Chandler Arizona oh he has a douchebag call-up He has a douche bag call out for a reading his friend Dom Brandt Dom Brandt has been listening to Noah Genesis episode 38 And as never donated I'm calling him out is a douche bag douche He says he's been listening for years and as a director of dudes named Ban, he can certainly afford to contribute. I fully expect him to rectify this matter by becoming an Insta-Knight!

2:28:09 Okay, thanks Mike nice for informing us of people like that. Yes This is this will not stand Dan Borowski sent a note in just came in as a check for one two three four or five his favorite donation My favorite anyway, but he's the guy who uses the United Federation of Planets Station oh yes, this is ongoing He says it's almost a half night now and even though I'm not yet at night. I have taken on these sacred quest of listening to all No Agenda podcasts starting from the first. Oh, please." I can assure you that until you get the show 200, the show is not that good. I noticed that John's use of yeah no goes all the way to show number one. Well this is an insight that we're unaware of?

2:28:57 Show one huh this phrase is so much a part of no agenda that eliminating it might disturb the global forces Which my we had lousy donations today because we I don't think they got at one call out last show you You gotta do more. Yeah knows yeah, No I do and this was a check that was sent in yeah Based upon your incessant promotion of this I started paying some of my bills via bank check. And I'm kind of surprised that hadn't done this a long time ago, it's very easy. Yeah if you have an online banking account

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2:30:33 I kind of like sending out the paper checks, but now that um...I'm alone. No one's buying the stamps anymore for the envelopes. Never forbid you'd go to the post office! Yeah well i do but anyway yes Post offices are great. Von Glitschke in Salem Oregon Thank You von glitzschke for sending me that beautiful piece of art Sent me a... Life is too short for bad art. I think I tweeted a picture of it, it's beautiful! I haven't seen that. On the tweeter somewhere. Salem Oregon 100 bucks? He says my wife now fully understands native advertising thanks to you guys she's slowly realizing you guys aren't complete nuts! Yeah thanks. Noel Vincente in Morristown New Jersey $100 Marta Calistom

2:31:29 Is it Calistom or Calistrom? She sent a note. Cali- Calistrom, I think. No, I see Stom no R but that's a note okay could be wrong. It looks like Strom on her note and she sent a check in and uh a card which is a nice card it has uh it's about...it's a little educational card that has a little girl saying the word amazing. I said the word amazing too often, and I've hired a PhD student to teach me other options." And the card is filled with every possible option to the word amazing! That's quite a few...I can read a few. Astonishing? Singular? Stunning?!

2:32:13 Yeah, yeah. Stupendous, splendiferous. I like splendiferous! Spectacular, phenomenal, remarkable, extraordinary staggering Scintillating, that's a good one we never use. How about t- how about... Limitable! Tiddle- tiddulating? Uh, breathtaking, flabbergasting uh, tittytastic. Tittytastic?! Yeah, tittytastic and craycray No no no Amen, fist bump That's not good. Tittytastic Dazzling stupefying astonishing And then the back of it has another 50 It just word after word so you don't have to use the word amazing She proves it by this buying this card and sending it to us Oh nice

2:32:51 Thank you, Marta. Colin Sloman in London UK 7070 Pascal Schelfhout Schelfhout? Oh! Pascal Schelfhut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfhaut Schelfh Which I believe is where Harlem is named after in New York. I like this note, well yes the Dutch used to own New York Yeah it was called New Amsterdam And that's why you have Harlem, Brooklyn They got suckered out of it Brooklyn which is Brooklyn Queens? Queen's Day No Queens is not the Dutch They have Queen's day

2:33:47 Hi Adam and John, after three and a half years on benefits I finally managed to land the job. Woo-woo! Even though i'm happy to be able to donate again trouble is that don't have time to listen to the show anymore. Oh... But you gotta commute, you're gonna be driving to work. Yeah he says job karma works just be patient Okay we'll add some at the end for everybody as well of course Heather Simkin in Hanley on Thames in Oxfordshire 59 59 and she has a no love the heather Send pictures Brett Feigley in San Clemente, California 5555 Michael old in Atascadero, California 50 what is it?

2:34:38 I've got the thing in the way. 5321. Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland $52. And then we have Christopher Cavaletto in Williams, Arizona 5150 and Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia 5069. And then the rest of these with short list of $50 donors including John Anderson in Youngsville Louisiana David Duvall and Malta New York Chase Tomlinson in Austin Texas you should have a meetup Corey Noonan in Los Angeles, California. Ross Turpin in Prairie Kansas. Sir Peter to you. Totez in Parts Unknown and finally Gerald Nabinit at

2:35:24 in Union, South Carolina and Sir Mark Tanner who comes in a couple of times a month. $50 from Whittier California. Those are the people we'd like to thank for show 708. We hope to do better next Thursday. We got an extra day in there for people to get into it and I hope the show is still working for you. It's cheaper than a movie. And hopefully more valuable...I was just looking at some of the entries here and I know what's going on. donation amounts below the 50 level, which means we don't read out the names because most people want to be anonymous or on their monthlies. And I think there's three that are tagged with Facebook." Oh yeah well... I know what's happening here Well Eric actually points this out and Mimi talked to me about this. Well Mimi is running that! That's the funny part

2:36:13 Well, yes. Mimi is... Is she really? I'm on Facebook! I'm on the No Agenda group Yes No Agenda Group According to if you read the note on Eric's email He says there's no agenda group which is always gossiping about this show On Facebook But in a nice way Yeah it's a positive group They're not saying we suck It's like most of these groups always turn against us That's the Reddit group The reddit group is starting to get ugly Yeah, that would happen because they think they can do it better. Generally that's how that starts Oh like these guys who did the forums once and they decided to their own podcast and then the podcast deteriorated into... Oh that was different! It was different because you're not participating in the forum well no Well thats not okay

2:36:59 It's just too many. This is not right." Whatever the case, they're trying to get enough donations through or mentioning Facebook which show up on the spreadsheet and Eric will dog it so they will all be mentioned and a cumulative amount supposed to be $1,000 so they can knight somebody which I guess still auction off. I don't know how they're going to choose anybody but that's what's going on. I thought it was just funny that Mimi seemed to be... No, she told me about it when they first came. Somebody came up with the idea wasn't her idea no I think was more we could have a special Facebook donation amount that I can create a button for

2:37:39 And she said, well they want to collect donations on the Facebook site. I'm thinking how's that going to get us? Well someone could write a check... Nah! The way to go is to get a special button thats fixed amount or open amount we make it just the same with open amount and you click on that it always gets credited as a Facebook donation like I can still do that but no one No one's, that Facebook. I don't know. I don't go there. No one has given me the go ahead to do such a thing as shall just do it. And I'm realizing more and more how the real problem with Facebook is reason why it's dangerous because it really is an evil time machine. Let me explain if you disturb the forces of time in dimension when you reconnect with people from your youth and from high school

2:38:28 It's not good. You start to follow these people and then you start to, they're like strange and have weird politics or they're just goofy... And then you have to keep reading about them and you feel bad that you don't want to unfriend them it's a evil time machine stay away from it as much as possible. I know preaching the choir there But I didn't think it was that was the reason. I just thought it was a waste of time period but you're right and I do think is, you know what? You don't have contacts with the old high school buddies because you don't There's reasons for that there's reasons why the universe has moved you on if you're on the steering committee for every five-year reunion And you just a few people will stay in touch with that's different Yeah

2:39:17 That's different that but that's always been around and it's always been fine. Hey, that's all we've got for this show 708 Yeah, that's pretty disappointing It I don't know how to converges where people say best show ever fantastic and then donations are down fine yeah I find that I don't like that no if they said just last shows sucked. I'd feel better about it I know have to work. I mean you say what would make a better show for you? But its best show ever And then nobody cares. Like, wait a minute something's wrong somebody is not telling the truth exactly well please help us out for the Thursday show we as always have a lot of things to deconstruct and help you live a healthier lifestyle Devorak dot org slash NA Man overboard! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Amen fist bump

2:40:13 I got a make-do here. Mary Walden wrote in and said Tuesday, uh...I made a donation to Noah Jenner from the day's page including birthday request for my friend Kyle and didn't make it on the air so i'm not hereby making good on that and as we learned today we had Michael Hintz his son Desmond will be two And on the following day, the 31st. This was his son is Tuesday at Michael himself or turn 29? That means next year if you add up our ages it will total 33 coincidence I think not. I agree with you my friend happy birthday for all your buddies here to best podcast in the universe. How does somebody turn two one day and then twenty nine the next? His son is 2 today and he's honest. Oh sorry He turns twenty nine tomorrow. Maybe that wasn't entirely clear

2:41:04 I was doing a lot of that on the fly because neither of those entries were in the official spreadsheet. Do we have, uh... I know they're baked good. That's all right! I got it. I never sent it in. Now um how about do we have no nights? No nights? No not with these donation levels I do have, and I want to talk about this. We said we would talk about China... ...and I think it's important that we bring this up because i've been following it for... Maybe half a year now and you've scoffed at it. You can still scoff because I think you're probably right, but given a couple of years this Asian Investment Bank might become... Infrastructure. Infrastructure. Yeah AIIB the Asian Investment Infrastructure Bank may be interesting and certainly we have a lot of countries joining because they just don't want to... Well it's more interesting now than when you first brought it up. But I did first identify it

2:41:57 This infrastructure bank is part of a bigger picture so far as China's concerned. Ultimately the Chinese policy makers, economic policy makers I believe are pushing towards the idea of the renminbi as a reserve currency but there's lots of things they have to do on the way and this is one small step in that direction having multinational institution that they can lead. Another will be free convertibility and as you know, that's some years away another will be a more liquid bond market that is accessible to foreigners those are things that have to happen before the renminbi becomes

2:42:36 part of the reserve currency system. And you know, having said that they've done other things other little steps like the currency swaps to facilitate international trade settlement in Renminbi so I see it as part of a whole in the development of China and just quick follow-up on that this is I believe mainly because the IMF reforms to 2000 2010 reforms at Fifi Lagarde was asking the United States Congress to What is the word? Ratify, which we do not do. And those reforms would put China into a voting position in the IMF slash World Bank but certainly IMF. We, the United States would still have veto rights and be number one but we have not ratified that and now it seems like what they promised, the BRICS

2:43:27 in particular said, oh we're just gonna...we eventually will move away to something else and now we have... You won't let us in your club. We'll start our own club! The Netherlands is now in Australia is in China has officially requested the yuan, the yuan to be in the SDR I'm sorry that doesn't make sense what I just said Here's the Treasury Department again requesting the IMF reform bill which is just not going to happen And, you know this is not huge but everybody's in it. They had the Dutch jump into it that was interesting and the Australians and everyone's like why would we take a risk on not being on board with it? Well the Japanese aren't in. We're not in now we didn't want anybody else to go in but they did against our wishes. I wonder if there'll be any fallout from this. I was going to say repercussions.

2:44:30 Was there anything, you know since we talked briefly that we said we were going to talk about China on the show today. Your buddy over there from the Horowitz Dvorak unplugged business he called me and left messages like I missed him i think he's on a plane maybe to China I don't know but he says oh I got all kinds of stuff and information but did you guys talk about what's happening with China and the failing of all of these trusts, 50 or 60 different trust companies have defaulted? We didn't talk about the trust companies. No. What did you talk about? We talked about their Chinese numbers. Finally they can cover it up anymore because they're going down in the tank and could give us little background I'd love to hear it. Well, do Chinese have these... It's always been suspected by the investment community that China's numbers are bull crap and they try and they're normalized which is really the problem nobody wants that

2:45:25 And that means that when somebody said, well you know it's down a little bit but we'll give it this number because this is the number that's expected by the party. The party wants to see this number and we think we can get to this number at least average to this number next time so they...The numbers are all bull crap but in some point you have such bad numbers that you can't...you have to be, you know commit Harry Carey. I'm sorry, these numbers are terrible. And so these numbers are now starting to creep into reality and this causes...it's making China a very risky investment on all kinds of levels."

2:46:05 But no, we didn't talk about all these trusts failing and some of this other stuff. It was a foregone conclusion. I mean you can invest in these areas and that's why the American stock market is so good because at least we are not completely but more transparent than anybody else. Well according to our ex-banker from New York, we won! The American banks won. It's funny, I was standing on the balcony last night...I have a little balcony here Did you finish the story about him when he started his show? Yeah, you know he whoops there we go. Hey man fist bump He was the one that got me on to power and gossip is capitalism That was that was all right, okay? But as a standing overlooking downtown Austin And that's the view I have

2:46:49 Here's what I see. You know, there are a number of buildings and the buildings are labeled and from right to left... Do you have a balcony? You can stand out on the balcony and view the bugs and bats and all the rest of it and say my people! No that would be a southern view and i have a northern view so I see the city which is... You have a balcony? Yeah small balcony Small? Can you have a party on the balcony? Absolutely not. Party in my pants is about it and I go from right to left and there's maybe, I can see 15 buildings maybe something like that then who what do i see? Bank of America Chase bank Moody bank IBC bank And It only kind of hit me last night There's all banks and they have huge buildings They're running the show every single bit of it People like Belinda Gates They are the lower level They are a lower level than these guys

2:47:52 Well, you think they're doing a crappy job these banks? Not for us. And I think in Gitmo nation proper here, I think we're doing okay but yeah...but they're running the drugs and running everything was just that's my point is that really what's going on and just when you see the power this power these huge buildings what is in there What are all these people... Clerks. No! What are they doing in there? What are they doing in this huge Chase Bank building, what do they do it for? I know because Chase Banks and New York that their headquarters or someplace else that's not the headquarters. No no huge. This is one of many giant chase buildings around the country what did they agree with me? What are they doing to need all these people but Austin yeah and then Bank of America as big as the biggest building here what are they doing in

2:48:42 Well, did you know? I read that the retail is what they really want to get away from. None of these banks want to do it anymore. It's all about running the world, I guess. And then this comes out and I thought, I found this was kind of coincidental with my observation of downtown Austin is the president's podcast. It just got a little piece of it his little, um, his little podcast that he does about 2000-3000 people ever watch this thing on video? I don't know if even anyone listens to it on audio and they had a couple There was a couple of orders that came out with this, not memoranda. Not executive orders and it's about something we've talked about in the past payday loans and we've talked about that in regards to people who work at home do webcam work or any kind of work that may or may not look like it's similar to payday loans just individuals and they're getting thrown out of banks

2:49:41 Chase is number one, like we won't let you have an account here anymore. And now the president comes out with this... This began with porn stars? Yeah I think webcam mainly but maybe some porn sites as well and we deconstruct that back to they want to get rid of payday loans And we'll get into that in a second, but first let's listen to the president and how he describes this. And of course, we always start off the podcast with our everyone say it. Hail everybody! Hi everybody five years ago after the worst financial crisis in decades We passed historic Wall Street reform to end era bailouts and too big to fail as part of that reform we created an independent consumer Financial Protection Bureau with one mission

2:50:27 to protect American consumers from some of the worst practices in the financial industry. But was $1,000 of the just go ahead. Just send us in we'll give you a thousand dollars and what was the big on that 27%? The whole thing she did these this consumer protection has done nothing. Yeah nothing as for at least know nothing we can see any evidence of They've already put $5 billion back in the pockets of more than 15 million families. Oh shit! I don't know where those numbers are coming from either This week, they took an important first step toward cracking down on some of the most abusive practices involving payday loans Wow he actually named a company during his speech Did he name a company you said? Yeah that's pretty outrageous He targeted pay day loans

2:51:27 That's an actual company name as well. Yes Wow, let's listen to that again you didn't know that no I did no No, I didn't know that yeah, let's do it again paying payday long go back a little bit more That's pretty brazen is involving payday loans Millions of Americans take out these loans every year In Alabama, where I visited this week there are four times as many payday lending stores as there are McDonald's. Another fine American institution! But while payday loans might seem like easy money folks often end up trapped in a cycle of debt If you take out a $500 loan it is easy to wind up paying more than $1,000 in interest and fees The step that Consumer Financial Protection Bureau announced this week is designed to change that

2:52:13 The idea is pretty common sense. If you're a payday lender preparing to give a loan, you should make sure that the borrower can afford to pay it back first As Americans we believe there's nothing wrong with making a profit but there is something wrong with making that profit by trapping hard-working men and women in a vicious cycle of debt Yeah like student loans as an example? Protecting working Americans' paychecks shouldn't be a partisan issue I love that protecting American's paychecks That's the meme right there. We're going to protect your paycheck. Let's just talk about payday loans for a moment, which I think you're probably more qualified to do that John

2:52:56 Okay. What is a payday loan? Just so we explain this... Payday loans began as a very interesting scheme where you're kind of, you have a bunch of debts or something and you're behind and you're gonna have to pay a bunch of fees. You can take a loan out of your payday that's kinda a pun. You take a loan out in the check that you're going to get but today is Monday, you're gonna get paid on Friday. And so you show some check stubs or whatever, and they'll give you a loan for the entire amount of your Friday check. So you're gonna get $180 on Friday and they'll give you that $180 on Monday but there's gonna be like an 18 dollar fee. Right it's the fees really that are... It's not the APR. Right, so when Friday comes along you get your 180 bucks and you have to pay back

2:53:51 $180 you owe these guys, but you can't because...I mean, you can but you're still gonna be short 18 bucks to go by net. And so that becomes a...so you only get the payoff some of the loan and then so now you're gonna be behind at least minimally $18 on the principal and so now you have to go to the next week and either take out another loan or just wait till you get paid again. But meanwhile, it's added up to now probably 36 bucks the 18 plus an $18 fee is like a fee base in this interest aspect of it. And if you...it starts building up to the point where you never can pay at all when you've made not just $1,000 people. A lot of people in the military have been because they put these payday loan places around these bases that have been bankrupted by these guys

2:54:41 What's interesting is the calculation that the president and this agency made It's based upon the APR, the annual percentage rate. And what they say is if you borrow $100 on a payday loan with a 15 dollar fee and so your next paycheck...and sometimes you have to write them a check or cash that check in multiple ways they do it. The way they calculate the annual percentage rate on a 15 dollar fee for 100 payday advance, they say that's 391% annually. annual percentage rate. Okay, however if you take their same math and you take a credit card $100 credit card balance your late fee will be 37 dollars on average which is a 965 percent Annual percentage rate oh that's okay Yeah How about your utility bill if you're late on 100 dollar utility bill typical fee 46 dollars results in a 1,203% APR

2:55:46 All this used to be against the law and they had ursery laws in place around the country. And the last state to void them, I believe was Arkansas I remember back years ago when you could get an Arkansas credit card, which was the best deal in town because they couldn't charge more than 3.5% or something like that and this is all a joke considering the cost of money based on the interest rates coming out of the Fed is near zero. So this is all... We used to be illegal that is now all legal. because there's no consumer protection. It was illegal for a reason, because this bullshit would happen and half the dummies out there are well you know they won't be all pay next week but this sort of thing goes on because the public needs literally

2:56:33 needs to be protected against this sort of thing, because at some point you don't get how complicated it is. And they make it and what do you think all the fine print is? Well there's a huge document you got assigned! This is terrible and Elizabeth Warren is going to promise to fix us she's not gonna do anything nobody's gonna do anything this is horrible the situation we're in and maybe he's what this guy went overboard for cuz were complaining about stuff like this live-in-a-dream world Yeah, it's I think was also the New York Bank who told me we were talking about Oh, of course. Now I'm just rolling everything out. I can add them just to get a job. We only have a dinner so i have to throw as much as I can out see you scare me You have 10 minutes that you wouldn't play the clip playing on maybe you never played on yourself? I'll play it on myself less than 10 minutes ago. Okay, well, I can save it for Thursday if she wants but it was really just they

2:57:35 It was related to this, but okay. Fine. No, no you should finish it up now he said because I was talking about auto loans he said the auto loan we were talking about Uber that's what it was and talk is um they already provide auto loans and he was just talking about the business in general And then I said well until that subprime market crash He's like no way there's nothing as small The biggest one is student loans and there's a business In providing uh loans at the government doesn't Won't provide I gotta get more you know what the ten more minutes. You're right? I got to stop We got to find out whether there was something very big is going on There's an opportunity for us to make money, and I'm sure we'll see hey. I'm sure we'll screw it up We're not gonna screw it up Which is not going to capitalize on it. We're not gonna do it. That's true. That's what's really in a house. What's your right oh

2:58:30 Besides that, who wants it? We could do research for the public at large as a public good. Our organization, the two of us we could do that and become enlightened or we can go work like our butts off to make you know blood money off of lending or something with the government oh my god why don't you just retire now I prefer doing this i enjoy what we do I wish more people would show some appreciation. We do have people that support the show, there's no question about it but sometimes it's like what happened? That's true all right we're gonna enjoy the sunshine here in the drone star state coming to you from the crackpot condo right here in the capital Austin Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from the capital of northern Silicon Valley

2:59:26 Yes, yes by the bridge. Yes I'm John Cena all right we'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda man overboard bomb them we need to kill and bomb them, bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them, bomb them. We need to bomb them! We need to kill them and bomb them again! Adios mofo Boom shakalaka Devorac dot org slash N A Amen fist bump