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00:00 DC Gay Bar. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Sunday March 15th 2015 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 704 This is no agenda Beware of the eyes of March! Hadamik broadcasting live from Rotterdam The Netherlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Adam has missed a spot in this show well anyway I'm John C. DeVore Oh The end of the world no, the end of the world is near now this is clear as obvious We're all going to die. This is it we should explain tip did the listeners the real listeners not that Not that I was coming at the phony stream listeners Real too but they're mostly here to kibitz yeah, well

00:48 do is pre-stream. You would get in the mood, I play some songs DJ Powerboy... And you're superstitious! DJ...I'm superstitious. DJ Powerboy had a whole bunch of superhero tracks it was a theme based pre stream and then when John comes on then we play Richard Wagner The Ride Of The Valkyries in a rare sung operatic version and at once at certain point being the opera lover that I am the lyric is sing go to my...and they usually sing along with that lyric And I think you should always say nailed nailed it and I've done. I so missed it today Which isn't just bad bad mojo, and you've always believed that if you miss it in the show is gonna Not be up to par that's right, and then when we did the opening I couldn't say anything I'm leaving all of that in none of don't leave it in this course. It's lovely we talking on Yes, well will argue about that later

01:42 Well, big news over here. You know what it reminds me of? It's like those... They put the flubs at the end of a show. No! We- Put some flubs at the end of this show. But except we didn't put it at the end of the show. It's the beginning of the show Yeah. It's not a flub is not edited as the whole shows how was it so up? It's a total flub Okay fine well John I don't know how it is there stateside but here in the- Well I understand all kinds of stuff going on there and in the old Holland What are you referring to, kind sir? I don't know. Tell me! Well first of all the newspapers were happy to report that my first wife and I had a very long conversation at her house So so you guys told us on the last show that you went to dinner Yeah...I believe did ya? We went to dinner. I went to our house and then dinner near her house in the back yard And so right after dinner she calls the newspaper No i think what happened The next day she was doing a store opening

02:40 You know, that's a gig. Paris Hilton does that and she opened the store and I think some reporters... because as she sent me a text message you know, I don't know how do they get this information? But just a couple of people at the store opening who I talked to like really so... They have her quoted is saying it looked tired and weary. Which is exactly what she said from her! It's unbelievable. I live in a bubble of epic proportions when i'm here. Pretty funny! Oh man, it's just ridiculous but the real news here is being reported similarly everyone is waiting here with bated breath to see what will happen at the Kremlin President Putin is reportedly set to make his first public appearance in more than a week as Kremlin officials try to shut down rumors that he is bad sick

03:36 They say on Monday. He will meet with the president of Kyrgyzstan in st.. Petersburg, Russia by the way is this Shep Smith guy I've been observing him. I think he's probably really tiny as like bees like Ryan Seacrest tiny not that it matters But just to get put him into perspective. He had this is kind of a new thing It's like a tough guy southern gay So he makes kind of gay jokes, but they're a little more... Shep Smith! Oh yeah. From Fox. And you can hear there's like people on set egging him on which is okay because that's how you keep it going during these incredibly boring days in cable

04:14 But it's something new that he's doing as I find it somewhat entertaining President Putin last appeared in public last Thursday for a meeting with Italy's Prime Minister Analysts say is rare for him to go more than even a day without a public event He's also postponed an upcoming trip and yesterday. He skipped an annual security meeting that he template typically attends so she might imagine the rumor mill is going batty by a criminal officials say images show president putin at this week's private events they say this shows him meeting today with the president of the russian supreme court they say another image shows in that a woman's day event on sunday but a local newspaper reports even actually happen lots of days earlier no prudence spent years building his reputation

04:59 as some sort of macho man or something. They show a picture of Putin riding a topless. His spokesman has said that the president is perfectly healthy and that his handshake is so strong that it would break your hand! That's what his spokesman said, for realz. For reals... Okay Shep. Well actually I had a clip that was this clip Sheps- I have to say Shep Smith does a good news report. It's entertaining, right? He covers all spaces! Yeah yeah and then he says for reals like he's like all the kids do well yeah he does his sides which is probably lessens the impact but uh... yeah I know that's big news here they've been all I mean he's dead he's sick have you seen The White Trucks everyone's talking about The White Trucks now no no oh The White Trucks yeah some say there are troops in The White Trucks

05:50 Troops in the white trucks. Others say it's a podium for, you know, they can build a big stage circus of the stars? I don't know but it's funny. Well the weirdest one was that he's got a mistress who is having a baby and wants to be with her Yeah we've heard that one but that would be in Switzerland I think something weird like that That's where the mistress is. I don't know, but this just... And so he supposed to show up today someplace? Yeah. Well and then there's you know, I think maybe Voice of America had footage or pictures of an event that isn't supposed to take place until today that they had footage of yesterday. It's nutty when as long as it involves Putin the mainstream media has no problem with conspiracy theories. That's all just make sure the payoff is Putin.

06:41 I have a...I think I found a valuable resource when it comes to what's going on in Russia and Ukraine. George Friedman, are you familiar with George Friedman? No. Nah, I looked him up he is now he was speaking at some kind of douchebag event where there's like Atlantic Club or something like that Budapest, Hungary. American political scientist... Oh Stratford that's right! He is the CEO of Stratford that's the intelligence organization in Austin. And so you have to take a lot of what he's saying with possible propagandistic tinges. You know? You got it you gotta take it at face value but I really liked his explanation and I pulled a couple of clips from this

07:32 And it starts off, let's see first he starts off with the European Union because of course that this is all...all of this has to do with the whole Russian issue. And our assertion well actually more your assertion but I'm on board with it is war in Europe and we were talking about this the other day 2020? Yeah 2020 So 2017 is the big cause I am telling everybody here obviously with quite some authority Again after the war now. I'll come back then But also tell them don't worry about it because you know you still have TV, you'll still have entertainment shows Yeah, they won't be like you know bombers flying over It'll be you know Missiles flying over exactly drones Coinage of 2020 exactly so he affirms the war and

08:27 Europe will, I suspect not return to the 31 years but it will return to humanity. They will have their wars they'll have their peace they will live their lives It will not be a hundred million dead but the idea of European exceptionalism i think is the one suffering first death there will be conflict There was conflict in Yugoslavia and there's certainly conflict now Ukraine As do the relationship to United States We no longer have a relationship with Europe. We have a relationship with Romania, we have a relationship with France... There is no Europe to have a relationship with." Now I thought that was pretty interesting! Yeah! Are you on the can or what are you doing? What?! Are you listening- are you with the show??

09:21 I'm sorry, didn't know that you had walked away from the program. No, no, I've just got to try to get to the printer but then you caught me in my way over. That's okay but these are shorter clips because it started the show and I'll try to bob you down... Tell me when you're going do a long clip so I can go over to the printer? Okay this is another short one hold on. Okay This is um the real enemy that who we are really combating now We're putting it all on Russia and Putin But it would really be a combo enemy. The primordial interest of the United States over which for centuries we have fought wars, the First Second Cold War has been the relationship between Germany and Russia because united they are the only force that could threaten us and to make sure that doesn't happen. I couldn't understand a word he said! Really?

10:10 Well, I don't know why. It was just...I couldn't understand him. He was mumbling. Oh he said the...you need to hear this! No he said that the Germans and Russians are only two people we give a crap about because they're not allowed to be taken out. If they're combined? That's the point he is making if their combined Go ahead and get up and go to your printer but keep your speakers on cause i'm gonna take you down to new level here You're down to a new level or up to a new level? I think it's down. Whenever we're involved in someone else's country, I think it's down the level. And by the way, did last time that Germans and Russians said that they were pulling their...getting their act together was at Hitler agreement where there were non-aggression

10:56 Pact yeah, and that didn't fly they the Germans in the Russians don't get along no matter what this guy thinks But I would go on well, but he has a he doesn't actually. I know it's why I get his point It's a good point but no Okay, go get go to your printer. I'm going to play now the our involvement in this whole spiel Specifically with the Ukrainian army ten days ago general Hodges commander US Army Europe visited Ukraine He announced that US trainers would now officially be coming, not just unofficially coming. He actually pinned medals on Ukrainian fighters which by protocol of the military is not the way foreigners don't get to pin on you know medals but he did showing that this was his army. He then left and in the Baltics announced that United States would be pre-positioning armor artillery and other equipment

11:54 in the Baltics, Poland, Romania and Bulgaria which is a very interesting point. So the United States... And now to yesterday the United States announced that it would be sending weapons tonight of course they denied it but they are. Weapons will go! In all of this the United... Hold on a second I think we lost John let's see what happened oh boy we're trying to reconnect there we go you back? Herro herro no disconnected again

12:31 Wow. Yeah, I heard the whoosh too that's the only reason i knew how it was gone Let me just start that clip over is no problem He probably went to go to the printer then tripped over something Hello? Hey, yo guy believe me everything has its problems Everything has a drawback Skype is the best so far It's actually been pretty good the past couple of months I would say we haven't had too many problems

13:10 It's the, yeah it's the hex of the show. It's the hex. Hello? It's the Cinco de Mayo Hex Yeah! I'm now believing it Should I just start the clip over? Yeah please Ten days ago General Hodges commander US Army Europe visited Ukraine he announced that U.S. trainers would now officially be coming not just unofficially coming Uh, he actually pinned medals on Ukrainian fighters. Which by protocol of the military is not the way- Isn't that brazen John? Our guys come in and say hey we'll do the medal ceremony Boy... really? Gone again. Hmm I'l make the same damn joke okay? I can do it. Johnny boy where are ya? Yo hello no This is what happens Skype upgrades your experience and you're fucked

14:17 I betcha. You watch, fuckin' betcha! Bastards... Fuck wads... Maybe it's the news byte? The news byte actually is sending some weird- Nahh, not connecting to him so that's more than that It's a connectivity issue Which could easily be mine Ah thanks VoidZero Yeah, I g- I- Dammit Yeah, yeah there've been chats working, streams working

15:05 Replay the fat lady? Hmm. That's maybe a good idea, if I can... If I can redeem myself Oh it's connecting again Are you there? Yeah hang on, I'm gonna change connections Hang o- Okay Alright I'm getting reports of net outages all over the place Like there was some huge bump Ah that would make sense Eyes of March The Four Blood Moons We're fucked people

15:57 You back? Yeah, the four blood moons. I was thinking maybe we should just do the Cinco de Mayo and just get it over with or does that not work? I'm afraid not. Start from the very beginning? No, screw it. I'll risk it. Okay start to clip again. I think we can hold on this time 10 days ago General Hodges commander US Army Europe visited Ukraine He announced that US trainers would now officially be coming, not just unofficially coming. He actually pinned medals on Ukrainian fighters which by protocol of the military is not the way... So I've uh what do you think about that? That's interesting Pretty brazen huh Hey hey we're in charge here We're gonna do the medals Move over General! ...don't get to pin on you know medals but he did showing that this was his army

16:56 He then left, and in the Baltics announced that the United States would be pre-positioning armor artillery and other equipment in the Baltics Poland Romania and Bulgaria which is a very interesting point. So the United States, and now yesterday the United States announced that it would be sending weapons. Tonight of course they denied it but they are...weapons will go In all of this the United States has acted outside the context of NATO because NATO has to have a 100% vote any one country can veto anything and the Turks will veto just for giggles

17:34 The point is that the United States is prepared to create a cordon sanitaire around Russia. There it is! This guy has a couple of these, the cordons sanitaires which as you could tell from my pronunciation is a French phrase literally translated means sanitary cordon originally denoted a barrier implemented to stop the spread of disease such as the Black Death The term has also been used in English, in metaphorical sense to refer to attempts to prevent the spread of an ideology deemed unwanted or dangerous such as the containment policy adopted by George F. Kennan against the Soviet Union so we are pulling out apparently a form of an old script and I think

18:22 You're still with me, right? Yeah. Okay I can't see that...I think he actually goes one step further in this or that's the next clip. Russia knows it! Russia believes the United States intends to break the Russian Federation. I think as Peter Lorre put it we don't want to kill you which is what hurt you a little bit either way We are back at the old game and if you go ask a Pole or Hungarian or Romanian they live in a totally different universe from German and they live in a totally different universe from the Spaniard. So there is no commonality in Europe, but if I were Ukrainian, I would do exactly what they're doing try to draw the Americans in." So he has so he takes this concept of the cordon sanitaire and brings in another old military concept... Back off for a second did he does he have a rationale for this? He says well he hasn't outlined what we're doing No

19:21 Well, I think maybe the intermarium explains what we're doing. That's this clip. As the currency will not survive... The question on the table for the Russians is will they retain a buffer zone that's at least neutral? Or will the West penetrate so far into Ukraine that they are 70 miles away from Stalingrad and 300 miles away from Moscow? I think that is basically what we're doing. That's the idea To invade Russia? Well, yeah. Or not to kill them but to hurt them. Listen up! The status of Ukraine is an existential threat and the Russians cannot let go for the United States in the event that Russia holds on to the Ukraine where will it stop therefore it's not an accident that General Hodges who has been appointed to be blamed for all of this

20:21 It's talking about pre-positioning troops in Romania, Bulgaria Poland and the Baltics. This is the intermodium for the Black Sea to the Baltic. Yeah that's a concept... The intermodium that I think dates back to... Oh crikey! It's a concept but not a rationale. But what other rationale then? Yeah we want to completely block Russia off and make them weak isn't isn't Known as the right now. Why what why we can all oh you gotta have something to do that's no, right? Yeah All right

21:01 to increase the military industrial complex. We have to place all this stuff, the president went over... It's that simple John! The president went and said hey you're not up to your 2% of GDP on military spending, you gotta up the ante come on, we're gonna give you a reason here is the reason, were coming in with our training, well actually they don't like giving weapons but selling weapons Come one that what this is always about Well, we've got plenty of markets for that. But this is... I pissed off the Russians? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me! I mean, I guess you could scare everyone with all the Russians are gonna come and get ya. The Russians are gonna get ya. Look, I'm in Europe this is exactly what people think! The Russians- oh they're not only going to get you they already started, they already killed 300 people shot down the plane. John yes, yes that's what this is about

21:55 And the question is, what will Germany do? That I think is where this comes down to because this effectively cuts all the way down the middle between the Baltic and the Black Sea which creates a huge buffer zone. Then if we move all the way... We are kind of Ukraine well that's annoying when you do that If your Russia but maybe it's too just cut off Germany. That Pilsudski dreamt up This is the solution for The United States To which we don't have the answer is what will Germany do? So, the real wild card in Europe... By the way, the Intermarium was a World War I tactic. Which didn't work. Didn't we have some thesis on this show that's been forgotten or overlooked or wasn't emphasized enough some time ago that has something to do with Germany

22:52 And wow, remember there was something going on. We talked about how... Trying to screw the Germans out of something or other? They were causing trouble. Yeah the problem with Germany and actually he talks about this in his second clip but let me just finish this one maybe it'll help jog our memory I think it was because of the euro The recycling euro or something we talked about how you know the Russians have also keeps the Euro up which witness what's happening I don't know, there may be a lot of different plans coming together with this. Is that as the United States builds its Corridon Sanitaire not in Ukraine but to the West and the Russians try to figure out how leverage Ukrainians out we don't know the German position Germany is in a very peculiar position it's former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on the board of Gazprom they have a very complex relationship to the Russians The Germans themselves don't know what to do

23:53 They must export. The Russians can't take up the export, on the other hand if they lose the free trade zone they need to build something different." Now I didn't quite understand what he meant there who would lose what? The Russians would lose the free trade zone? No the Germans have to trade with Russia right yeah that was a lot of Germans and Russians really trade a lot yes that's where all the money comes from exactly For the United States the primordial fear is German technology and German capital read natural resources, Russian manpower as the only combination that has for centuries scared the hell out of the United States. Okay now that's it? That's it we don't trust the Germans dumb krauts! We don't want your money and your technology being connected to Russia's resources and bare-chested leader well I think it's a bit much to say for centuries

24:54 This is the only thing that has frightened the United States for centuries. It's not the case, for centuries... We were scared by them most was obviously the British that we're always trying to get their place back. I agree you just don't like this guy? Well, I think he's a bit loose with his analysis. Well let's listen then to the final clip I have on him which i think fits in exactly what we've all always been saying if you look at the Middle East is to rubbleize the place That's our thesis. It's a broad one, this is very simple we have several other themes that go along with that but in general it was just to rubble eyes the place yeah I always use look at the photos and you can see what they were very successful Yeah you just cut out for seconds so i don't know if you do want to oh yeah it's comcast all right The United States has a fundamental interest it controls all the oceans of the world no power has ever done

25:54 Because of that, we get to invade people and they don't get to invade us. Do we rock or what? Very nice thing. A very nice thing yes. Maintaining control the sea and control the space is the foundation of our power The best way to defeat an enemy fleet is not let it be built The way the British managed to make certain that no European power could build a fleet was to make sure the Europeans are at each other's throats. The policy I would recommend is one Ronald Reagan adopted toward Iran and Iraq. He funded both sides so they would fight each other, not us! This was cynical it was certainly not moral it worked and this is the point United States cannot occupy Eurasia The moment the first boot sets to ground demographic differential we are totally outnumbered We can defeat an army but we cannot occupy Iraq The idea that 130 thousand men would occupy a country of 25 million

26:59 Well, the ratio in New York of cops to citizens was greater than we had deployed in Iraq. So we don't have the ability go across but we do have the ability to first support various contending powers so they concentrate on themselves with political support, some economic support military support advisors and in extremists do what we did in Japan in Vietnam, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Spoiling attacks." It sounds like... that sounds kind of like our plan! Just throwing some ISIS in there? Some Al-Qaeda or whatever fraction we want to call it? Let them all beat each other over the head?! Well you see his premise here bothers me now. Okay He starts off with the premise that Reagan funded both

27:58 Iran, which I find very sketchy because we were at the... Reagan came in right after the Iranians were taken over by the mullahs and it was a very cold era between the United States and Iran. So I don't know how we were funding them but he says we were so let's just go with that anyway. And so we're funding the two of them, so they'd fight each other. So they wouldn't fight us? Were they coming over here to fight us?! His other premise is that we own the oceans and no one can ever attack us! How does this rationale even work in a million years!? This guy is one of those characters who throws stuff together... it sounds kind-of right... oh yeah, and then lot of its bullshit... and he throws it all together and it sounds like some sort of thesis when there's no thesis here!!

28:45 And then he throws in some World War I crap, this cordon sanitaire. I like that! I like the old plans...I like that! It makes sense to me. I'm not saying he has the answers- This guy's totally full of shit. That's my conclusion listening to these clips. Then I can't even finish? I can't listen to him anymore it's no good You can listen to him but I mean he does have something good to say but he's covered it up with a bunch of just nonsense Hmm, okay. I accept Yeah, I feel bad but all right. I don't know why you should feel bad. It's interesting a guy is out there pushing this agenda What is his rationale? Why is he doing this? That's always the question You know I wonder what he's selling Do not think it sounds feasible that we're putting together this Intermarium? The less I believe anything he says

29:43 I mean this Iraq-Iran thing was enough that that was it. They were going to come over here and fight us, and again I'll reiterate in 1979 when the Iranians had a revolution and put these mullah's in From 1980 when Reagan got in to 1988 when Reagan got out there would there was no way we were giving them anything Well to me it sounds like he is I mean telling the story isn't There wasn't a moment where there was guns for you know drugs and this sort of thing that went on but as It wasn't anything that would amount to a hill of beans in the scheme of things if you really gonna arm some Some country to the teeth

30:25 and let them fight each other, and then we got screwed on that deal. Talk about causing us a lot of money." And we really got screwed... The American public got screwed monetarily by rubbilizing the Middle East. What we got out of it? Well maybe we get some good oil contracts, maybe there was some other action that was going on. I don't see the net coming out favorably on our side. Well then it goes back to my original analysis. These people feel like they gotta do something Nothing better to do maybe well. Well, here's a former army general Robert scales take up knitting in testimony He tells us exactly how we can get everything going Ukraine Yeah 3,000 US troops deploying to Eastern Europe some armor will be going with right apparently To what effect and what do you expect? I

31:24 I think to no effect, Lou. It's game set and match in the Ukraine The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians Killing so many Russians that even Putin's media can't hide the fact that Russians are returning to their motherland in body bags But given the amount of... You know what? That is the plan! That's what we're doing bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them, bomb them! We need to kill and bomb them, bomb them! We need to bomb them we need to kill that and bomb them again yes we're good at it well I'm gonna bring this back to a simple answer to the whole thing because all this began if you look at the Ukraine situation everything else it all began after certain moment in history

32:20 And that was when the Russians took in Snowden. I guess that is the moment it does correspond just like CO2 to global warming. Snowden was being given safe haven in Russia and ever since then this has been continuing. And before that, I don't notice that anything was...I mean there was a lot of action in the Middle East but and there were some the Syrian thing had begun but none of this other stuff. So I'm gonna just stick with the old thesis give them if Russia gives us up Snowden all as well. That's all! Well, then I think we need to have a petition on WhiteHouse.gov about this because then we can just end this malarkey

33:04 The letter that you correctly identified as being a big deal, that the 47 Republicans signed... Dr. McNamara Yeah, by the way I made a mistake on that it wasn't a series of congressmen it was all senators. So they were complete idiots but yeah, the letter. Adam Well there's something going on that is interesting to watch particularly as regards My favorite propaganda organization, Vice has announced that they will be releasing an interview with President Obama today. Very very slick campaign I think that this is one of the better pieces of work they have their promos are being played on the cable news shows those really being hyped up

33:57 And I have the trailer right now and just listen to what the president is saying in this interview. And this is all beauty shots, it's really high energy, high cut, big pompous president coming off Air Force One you know? You know the drill right but really Team Obama here. He's badass! No drama, Obama! Come on your way! Kick it ass! Are you a masochist? We're not acting in a sane and rational way That's disturbing Let's take something like climate change. Let's, you know it seems that from the outside... From the inside too! I'm embarrassed for them to address a letter to the Ayatollah who they claim is our mortal enemy and their basic argument to them is don't deal with our president because you can't trust him to follow through on an agreement that's close to unprecedented

35:02 This is the last question our number one question from everyone on the internet for young people I'm sorry, but if you legalize marijuana it would be the biggest part of your legacy. So what are your thoughts on that? What a cliffhanger so this is and it's that same guy You know the founder of vice yeah He has a suit on funny there now you look all nice all cleaned up So here's Jen Psaki piling on top of this PR effort, because it is very obvious what it is now. And she actually during Andrea Mitchell show on CNN who plays that bit about the letter. Let me interrupt for a quick second there was a long exposition on Frontline which is one of the more accurate presenters of news information about how Obama

36:01 reneged on a deal he did with Boehner during one of the... Drinking sessions. ...years, about four years ago when they were doing the budget or something and they put everyone on board and Obama came up with an agree on this specific thing. This is what created this chilliness between Boehner and Obama because Obama lied to Boehner. Okay. He said he was gonna do one thing and did another. It was very well documented. And I think this probably goes on with...I think it's his Obama style, he does this sort of thing. But we don't know what it is? Or just irrelevant? It's irrelevant to what I'm going to say, which is that if Obama is doing anything like this where you can't trust him. This is a payback

36:41 the letter. I said, you can't trust this guy! Because when Boehner was screwed by Obama it was not only a... and there is like i said there's an entire hour presentation on this in my front line There was nothing Boehner could really do about it to screw him back except just be angry and then all of the publicity turned against Boehner as a weirdo with his man-tanned hands and smokes too much Right, right. Gay overtones on him. There's never been a quid pro quo on this and this possibly is part of it the Senate's... Well? The 47 senators saying for all practical purposes saying ha! We'll give them the screw job. I've got information man new shit has come to light. I'll give this to you then so cotton

37:37 Well, let me do it in order. That might be a little bit easier but have new information you should has come to light first assistant of sake piling on just you can see really what you know what the idea here is to Really make the Republican Party look like morons And as I said Andrea Mitchell even replays a part of this vice promo which is clear This is now a setup this is a con a coordinated effort. I'm embarrassed for them for them to address a letter to the ayatollah They claim is our mortal enemy their basic argument to them is don't deal with our president because you can't trust him That really makes sense with what you just said. Him saying exactly that, Don't deal with our president because you can't trust him which is exactly the opinion of Boehner as you retell it right? Yeah Follow through on an agreement It's close to unprecedented

38:34 State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki joins me now from the state department. Hi, Jen! I hate that! What are you doing? Hi Jen! Hi Andrew! Hi John how are you? Hey Adam hey i'm here to be adversarial okay just play along uh isn't that annoying? I got better than that on a clip here. You want to do it now If you want to do an aside, I want to get back to the point. Why don't we go finish up the point here and then I'll throw some of these in? Okay that's close to impressive. Hi Jen! Hi Andrea! Hey hey coming over and have some dinner at The Greenspans? State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki joins me now from state department. Let's talk about that. We should just say hi John

39:22 Hi Adam. Hi, hi hey John. Letter and what these Republican senators did you've heard what the president said uh years he were with Secretary Kerry when he lambasted them in his Hill testimony how does that is it lambasted I never heard him say lambasting no i didn't lambasting lambaste is that okay yeah lamb basting your bastard yeah and lamb basting. Ah, so what is lamb basting? What is lamb basting? I mean, I haven't heard it both ways, so... Hmm. ...influence what Iran does at the negotiating table starting Sunday Well the negotiations remain between the negotiators So do we think that- Wow! This is a very astute comment The negotiations remain between the negotiators Holy mackerel, let me write that one down But I like what she does Jen is good man She is good

40:09 So she's going to take this question, she is going to say something completely nonsensical which is obviously logical and then she's going to ask her own question and answer that. This is a very well trained PR person listen how she does this I want to remind people that we do have this thesis on the show that the best Obfuscators say things like you asked me a question. So well the question You should be asking is she does it even better than that even better never address the question She is so brazen. She's good, she's good I think yeah motherhood will do her well somethings bubbling up and she just nailing it. Testimony how does that influence what Iran does at the negotiating table starting Sunday? Well the negotiations remain between the negotiators So do we think this is going to have a direct impact on the room no Wow! Is that good or what?! That's fantastic

41:08 Just so slick. Well, it was completely uh... It brushed the question off beautifully. Yeah! First he throws a little thing out there you know then no! But the fact is- What? Yeah, you do a cordon sanitaire at the beginning of your clause. Exactly. Cut her off and then say what you want to say. No but the fact is as the president said this is nearly unprecedented it's bringing into question what has been precedent Notice they're also saying nearly unprecedented which means there's something out there we still have to find Because these guys are smart. That's a great quest, I catch. Nearly unprecedented. And I think it means that a bunch of Democrats did this at some point in history or something. Something really unprecedented. Something that is not exactly in their best interest. It's funny the way they throw it out there says no one has ever done anything like this and then they use nearly unprecedented. So did the president in that piece he says its nearly unprecedented

42:09 But I think he almost swallows it. Everybody knows about what it was that happened before by whoever, and originally they were going to say this is unprecedented they did this so no no shh don't say that because then you're gonna get busted Here's your chance chatroom find that before the end of the show That's, yeah. Bring into question what has been precedent for hundreds of years back to when members of Congress were riding horse and b- Wait did Nixon do something like this with the North Vietnamese? Well Nixon was president but they're talking about I believe specifically they're talking about that the Senate or the House or the Congress

42:52 doing something outside, doing an end run on the president in a very bold and brazen way. That's got to have happened a number of times. Hold on one second I have something here. Inevitable comparison with the 1968 conspiracy by Richard Nixon through white right-wing campaign official Anna Chenault to encourage the Vietnamese government of President Nguyen Van Thieu to boycott peace talks in Paris. That's probably what... What the nearly unprecedented refers to I don't, I'm not familiar with that. Maybe? I am not familiar with that and with what happened there But again Nixon was the president or unless it was before he ran for president 1968 I believe its presidents Oh! Campaign official

43:49 Well, this way you could also use this when Reagan ran for president in 1980. In 79 they were trying to get the hostages released from the consulate and there was an encouragement by someone behind the scenes to keep him there so Carter couldn't win. That was... yeah exactly Well, let's just listen to the rest of Jen's little spiel. Oh wait you gotta hear this because that's actually... oh did I skip ahead? What'd I do here? I'm sorry Did it sound- maybe it was over I guess yeah, I guess it was over Yeah here okay

44:34 This is the reason why I think Cotton is the leader of this letter, of this group. And he's getting attention for it too which immediately has me interested... Why are people like Howard Dean commenting on this guy if they, you know it's all the 47 Republicans but he is the only guy that is actually being touted. And you and I did a little bit of research post-show on Thursday on the guy which we might want to talk about Here's Howard Dean on The Cotton Letter. I'm very surprised at this First of all I was very surprised McCain signed the letter in the first place

45:10 I mean, he gets what you're supposed to do. He was a prisoner of war in Hanoi for a very long time and I don't think he probably liked it very much when Jane Fonda went over there and had a few things to say And I think this is somewhat similar. Cotton doesn't get it. Cotton's a veteran You know, he had a decorated career in the Army. He's a Rhodes Scholar of all people! He should know that you don't do this... I mean if you serve in the army with a commander-in-chief, you don't do this. You can disagree. I don't disagree with what he said. He has a right to say that. To give comfort for the enemy which is hardline Iran

45:49 I think was shocking. Just shocking and I'm very surprised McCain signed the letter, and I think he's having second thoughts. I'm shocked! I'm shocked, I tell you. So shocking. So Cotton turns out is number one protege of Bill Kristol Interesting. Yes, and Bill Kristol is one of the premier neocons project for New American Century and now of course still mixed up with the Kagan's and now the neoliberals... Yeah, he was one of the leaders in the whole movement. And a bunch of communist turned neocons. He has been tweeting that he feels Cotton would be the perfect vice presidential candidate

46:33 Oh, good catch. Good- oh that's a great catch! So that and THAT is why I would think Psaki is trying to discredit him as well. I'm embarrassed for them... For them. Shoot come on I'll get past all that. I'm sorry, here it is. The consenters did you've heard what the president said? Uh, here's Secretary Kerry when he lambasted them in his Hill testimony How does that influence what Iran does at the negotiating table starting Sunday Well, the negotiations remain remain between the negotiators So do we think this is going to have a direct impact on the room no but the fact

47:09 The fact is, as the president said this is nearly unprecedented. It's bringing into question what has been precedent for hundreds of years back to when members of Congress were riding horse and buggies uh...to do their jobs so it really does bring into question whether they want to see a I'm sorry, this was the horse and buggy thing which i thought was just her slamming the republicans but for some reason i don't have... Oh actually very good catch. Yeah yes that's what she was doing yeah but i don't have her talking about cotton i'm sorry i don't have that one okay uh like horse and buggy now horse and buggy is nice it's cute so we've got all that going on as cute and uh you know and it seems like well then of course if you want to look at cotton his number one donor

47:53 Yes, well APAC of course. Oh yeah So this is the Jewish lobby Israeli lobby I should say that is funding him and it's not its you know It's obvious It's not even being hidden so he is the boy for vice president And I think that he'll be good for that we you know We well yeah because he's being blackmailed cuz the guy had to have a shotgun wedding He's obviously gay like Tim Cook gay Just look at him. Well, this is the problem and I'll say it i'll just say it guys being black We did a little research on this guy And he's obviously gay And there's a lot of assertions that he only got married to some woman that they've never found a picture of him in her before beard uh the marriage They just you're right

48:43 political shotgun wedding. Here, marry this woman because you're going to look gay. I just have to explain Tim Cook gay is he there's pictures of him with the hiked up jeans it's like look he's dressed like Tim Cook yeah it's all in and obviously you can tell if someone's gay by what they wear but this is a known fact Well, if you look around enough they actually like to wear it. If you're old enough! It's all beside the point whether he is gay or not because I think it's important to the Democrats that he's gay Yes yes yes and the idea is and again I don't care if he's gay

49:21 But if he's going to cover up being gay, let's assume and we're gonna make these assumptions for this analysis. For this analysis only? This is what the Democrats want that the Democrats may well be behind by bringing his name to the fore. They have made him the candidate Bill Kristol who's an idiot, would be all the aliens. Because it's all we got another neocon in and we can do some more of these wars and you know these chicken hawks is what you might want to call them and not in the gay sense but in this sense of being warmongers which is funny that the term crosses over. And you get to Guy and then somehow, as the campaign progresses it's revealed he's gay and all the Republicans...and I'm going to make this general... Roll their eyes but Republicans are more inclined to vote based on whether somebody is gay or not and they won't and not all of them by any means but enough of them

50:23 screw up the vote and get to ruin the campaigning. A gay Trojan horse! Exactly Breaking Trojan News This is from who else but Brian the Gay Crusader. Okay? Anonymous, we spotted very anti-gay Republican representative Tom Cotton... Republican at DC gay bar and they have photo evidence! And so it begins. This doesn't surprise me Well you nailed it you nailed it there it is apparently he appeared on Grindr

51:20 Oh yeah, let's run this guy for vice president. And the Democrats are... The Democrats are... This is Bill Kristol and these guys again. They're idiots! The Democrats are playing them like the fools that they are. Like a Stradivarius? Yeah, let's run this guy for vice president. Hopefully it'll get nipped in the bud. This is so beautiful. It's like literally playing a Stradivarius. The music is so sweet to my ears Wait a minute. Yeah, I'm sorry an NRA endorsement of cotton appeared on Grindr what the hell does that mean? Okay well at any rate we have photographic evidence of seeing him here in the DC gay bar looking rather quizzical What am i doing here? Why am I here this is strange Can you guys tell me where the girls are

52:15 I'm really interested in finding out where the girls are. I don't see any! Why is that? That's weird... It's very strange, what do- What do i make of this?! Can you tell me- can you explain to me what do I make of this?? But I was picking up a friend! No.. What will the excuse be he has got to come up with something for this. He's picking up friends... Wait, wait, what did you say in that case!? I was an exe- uh, i didn't know. No, no, no, it's just a case of misunderstanding that happens all the time and I can prove it So you take your hose And you roll that sucker as far in as you can get it and then some guy, some dude behind you is blasting with his hose Uh there he goes Oh! It gets better Yeah so you're getting blasted so you can stay cool It hits really high

53:14 It's just mistaken identity. It can happen to anybody well anyway this guy has been set up and Okay, you know he probably shouldn't even gotten elected there No, this is a wedding thing is the one that there's some nasty stuff on the web about this character Yeah But there is his whole concerted effort now I think I made a mistake it might have misunderstood for Reba she said that the Nowruz was on the 31st. I believe she might have said the 21st and in Dutch with an Iranian accent, I might have misunderstood it but so i looked it up and Nowruz is on the 21st of March not the 31st And what's going to happen again?

53:53 That's the Iranian New Year, 1393. Oh the 21st okay. It was coming up yeah but the Obamas were already celebrating Nowruz at this very important time in the negotiation and they were doing that at the White House. Hello everyone! Nowruz-atan Mubarak! Yeah What was that? She said something in Iranian. Happy New Year! Yeah, happy new year yeah but isn't it the 21st yes this is last week what was this like the 14th last week 13th yeah so I don't know why she does it early other than positioning sending a message to Iran

54:33 television coverage, maybe? There was not a lot of television coverage that I saw. Well, of course, I'm in Europe so CNN is about it. We didn't see...I didn't see anything here. Yeah and then we had the at the same time week the president came out with a notice on the 15th of March for the continuation of the national emergency with respect to Iran which stems from executive order 12957 of March 15 1995 which has just been renewed ever since what does that now 20 years? 95, 2005 to the end. Yeah 20 years. The executive order. So who knows... Let's just stop the analysis and go back to the thesis that we can... which will help end this conversation. Okay

55:26 We want them to have a bomb. Yes, right now that's something if the Stratford guy said that I'd say okay well he's at least is on that one but we want them to have a bomb because that will set off a bunch of sales for arms and defense mechanisms and anti-missile systems and all the rest which are very expensive by the way anti missile systems or probably the most cost seems to me looking at the prices. Were you out shopping recently? I was shopping around. It looks to me, you can buy a howitzer pretty cheap but an anti-missile system... Now you're talking some dough! Billions to get the place outfitted because you've got to put them all over the place. The anti missile system is what i would call the modern version of the Maginot line

56:11 which would seem like a good idea at the time. The Maginot Line? Yeah, the one that the French put up to stop the Germans from ever invading again Where was that? Where was the Maginot Line? It was over in the Maginot area Hey thanks! Order some- you look it up Go Google it and find the Maginot line And so they figured the Germans- and the German says Look what is this art This pot- this huge It's like a giant fort, you know kind of massive cement thing. And it goes on forever and so what do we have to do? We have to walk around it? Oh okay well let's just do that instead of the long one.

56:51 About the Durand line. Are you familiar with this? No Breaking news out of Pakistan at least 14 people have been killed after two suicide blasts in a Christian community in Lahore The blast happened at two different churches one during Sunday mass I'm joined now by journalist Michelle Stockman in Islamabad, Michelle What more can you tell us exactly about what happened we're seeing some video shattered glass us on our screens at the moment, just utter devastation. What do you know? That's right, Isa. This is just another devastating attack on the Christian community here in Pakistan. We understand from the deputy inspector of police in Lahore that the blasts were caused by suicide bombers. OK, so this is terrorism and this is an area that I've always had my questions about Waziristan and it's actually the exact same

57:45 height as Waziristan, just on the other side of this kind of gray area. And I was...you see when you in the Netherlands have taken a couple of Ubers most these guys are from the Middle East who were driving the licensed Uber so they're, you know, they have official taxi papers And so I've talked to guys who have been from Iran, from Iraq, from Afghanistan. And I had this one guy who was driving me and he told me what is going on and it's about this thing called the Durant Line. This is a hundred years ago very much like we agreed or there was the agreement that after 100 years Hong Kong would be returned to China. This is about this land between Afghanistan in Pakistan. What's happening is the Pakistanis are not giving it back

58:30 And so that's why the Afghans are all there trying to, you know...terrorism. Blowing shit up! And that's why we've been droning these guys because we have a pipeline that has to be protected going through that area and we can't-we need full control and I guess were more aligned with Pakistan than with Afghanistan That finally answered the question for me The Durant line Well, this is the imagine a line was actually armaments and right. But this was just this was just a line of whatever that case want to get out there? Yeah. The point is that these missile defense systems you know, you shoot the missiles different kind of missiles You go around them. You bring in a guy with a bomb carrying a bomb There's other ways I mean it to deal with With missiles but these are very expensive systems so that's good

59:23 Yeah, it is good. It's great! And we also I think we have at least the smart money...I would hope has come to the conclusion that there's no time anytime soon that Iran is going to build let's say a hundred missiles and send them our way It's just not gonna happen. They're just not going to do that." And if they did, of course we would send 10 thousand missiles and flatten the entire country which we would do. So that's not gonna happen but Israel is of course always being threatened but Israel now you start to see numbers I've noticed numbers coming out when you see reports about who has nukes and Israel supposedly has 80 of them

1:00:10 And they have the wherewithal and the gear, because they get it from us to send those 80 nukes any place they want to. They can hit any spot in the Middle East so that could flatten most of the places themselves and probably blow up that big stone in Mecca. That would be pretty hardcore man, to blow up the big stone. Is it known as The Big Stone? No, Something else I can't remember the name of it, but it's where they you have to go what you know once in your life You have to go walk around the thing and It's mecca The big block is very huge a huge cava the kaba yeah the kaba the kaba there. Yeah, thank you It means the cube yes giant cube and They wander around it. He knows what happens when the cube opens up oh

1:01:10 fish At least I got it Anybody in the audience got that job. I think there are people who got it whatever the case they would Israelis if they're gonna give these guys are gonna be an all-out attack by The Muslims, they will just blow up Mecca And I think that would that was that would be yeah That would be blood on the moon that wouldn't change the world's events speaking of which now I know where it comes from Blood on the moon. Well, that's what my mom used to say Adam Clark Curry if you don't stop that right this minute There'll be blood on the moon and it means is a do we have the blood moon? We have the for blood moon Today or no I think it's in this week

1:01:58 Okay, the four of the four blood moon is bad mojo man. Well it was for this show Seriously This is a the previous what I've read The previous four blood moons were It's all by the way this thing that I had its old Jew related. It's supposed to piss me off It's all superstitious of course be it's like you know the Holocaust here. It is there's also movie coming out Blood Moons film Not coincidental, of course. Here we go... Oh there's a movie coming out? Oh yeah! Of course So here is the Blood Moon prophecy A theory studied and taught by some Christian ministers such as John Haggy I guess that's the guy behind this And Mark Bitts or Biltz which states that an ongoing tetrad This is very funny Happens when these take place and here's what's the list here of the blood moons

1:02:56 started the second world war, killing the Jews. And apparently this will be the Middle East will melt down during this blood moon April 5th. The killing of Jews thing in... April 4th is when it starts. Time period I don't see that you can put a date on it It's pretty long process but okay for the purposes of the argument I'll buy it Blood Moon Now it's the four blood moon not for blood moon or blood moon has to be for blue name for a rock band Good enough. Oh Man, all right well so that's that's that it's all snowed in no

1:03:48 Well with that John C. Dvorak I would like to thank you for your courage and indeed say in the morning to you, John...C...Dvorak! In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all of people out there with their boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. And ships at sea And the ships at sea in the morning everybody then shaman he ships and see left. Yeah, there's some shit But well apparently we rule all the oceans you must have plenty of ships at sea I hope they listen to this show in the mornings everybody No agenda stream calm in the morning to Nick the rat and all the other artists who are always diligently adding artwork To make a the album art looks spectacular for the best podcast in universe Nick Thank you for episode 703

1:04:34 And I'm trying to recall, what was the art that Nick did? It was great. Yeah well it's the episode Logistics! I remember that... Oh it was the douchebag calling on the Apple Watch. But you notice a second little thing is they've had the fog thing calling from whatever it was Did you look at that closely? I didn't catch it the first time Well yeah it says douche bag and what does it say I pulled up calling from smog or something memory because it was a reference to the electronic Smogging that you're all gonna get our oh, I'm gonna get the gold one cuz. I'm that douchebag What? What I receive stuff who sent you that I don't know but I will not implicate anybody okay Let me go look at this thing okay and said douche bag incoming smog No, I don't know. I don't understand the reference

1:05:35 It was because the guy who went to, there was the clip about this. The electronic smog around us of all these... Oh yeah! Okay okay I remember, I remember Yeah it was a very clever little gag, sub-gag which is Nick, the reason why... That's right, Nick does it, that's right. Nick and both Martin JZ those are two guys who are competing with each other for attention and they always slip, this is a little tip for the artist. They always slip in just kind of a side gag or two sometimes three that just were sub-references that kinda fit in and you just notice them if you're paying attention which I was. Very very slick. Very subtle. Alright let's thank a few people who helped us with show 704

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1:09:19 What was that? News bomb! That's John Fletcher. Today I received this, and have not heard it yet. Okay now here is what...this is another listener producer inspired idea. Now I don't know if Fletcher wants to do this but I think we should probably do a pie donation in the future We'll have to talk this over a little bit before we do this. Are we talking it over now? No, no, we're talking about Fletcher. Which is if you give us certain donation in the following show or maybe once every couple of weeks

1:10:10 Fletcher does all of these names. Nussbaum, Dvorak, Curry... Kiernan, Brousseau you know whatever just a bunch of them in the screaming voice which he does better than anyone in the world and it's a goldmine this guy yeah if we want to do that hey we gotta protect our assets! We can give him like a knighthood just for that Yeah so every single show? He wants to do that every single show No, no. I said like every couple of weeks we do accumulate the people who subscribe to a Fletcher call out for their ringtone. Ah! Then we have a Fletcher fest? We have a Fletcher Fest exactly that's what we'd call it. We call it Fletcher Fest. A Fletcher Fest with him doing it with applause between each one and then guys can record the show and take them out making their ringtones. Yeah but I could put them in the show notes too

1:11:04 And they could be in the show and she can just download them. That's probably a better idea, yeah? Yeah, and that would be a donation level of 314 15 permanently Fletcher fest donation yeah fletcher fest I'm liking it. I'm liking it because Fletchers voice It is I wouldn't mind having no vorac ringtone you know I might think Dvorak Do you ever listen to the show Yeah, I know you have it. Play it. Nah, gotta find it. Uh-huh yeah yeah now you make the little snide comment. No now I'm a snide douche and then you fall on your face. That's right. Duvooook! You like that one? See thats a great ringtone. It's hot. Okay Alright thats what I wanted to discuss Good I think its a grand idea to... Well it's up to Fletcher Thats true

1:11:56 He's, I mean when i hear him do this. I think to myself my god that poor man has just blown out his voice John Fletcher says Adam C 1999 I'm down for doing that no he's DTF he's down to Fletcher be old enough during the era when Janice Joplin was floating around and I got to see her. Did you have sex with her? Because everybody else did apparently. Apparently, I was the only one who did it. Whatever the case... When you watched her sing, the thing that was interesting about you because people always talk about this She put so much into each song, you thought she was literally going to drop dead on the stage at that point. Then she'd do it again and again and again. That's the way I feel that Fletcher is the Janice Joplin of vocalists or whatever you call people who yell at someone's name." I understand when you're trying to be complimentary

1:12:51 But today's kids don't associate Janis Joplin with fantastic voice, they associate it with drug overdose. dead, you know that 33 and 32 27 whatever. And it was never recorded it was like the Grateful Dead you couldn't record them properly because they were mostly playing around with standing waves in the audience and if you didn't hear the performance you'd never get the standing wave explain standing waves Standing Wave is where you have a bunch of I'm sorry It's hard to explain but it's a waveform that can create itself in the middle of, just in the middle of open air. And it is if you had these little... The best example I've ever seen visualizing a standing wave is Bose used to have these speaker shops around the country and inside the speaker shop they had a long tube that was filled with this little like polyester foam balls, this little bitty things and then they would have their speaker

1:13:52 pumping noise into it and the balls would bounce around showing kind of the notes that were coming out of the speaker. And they had a knob, and you could create a standing wave in the... And then make the balls bounce? In the tube no, the standing wave makes the balls go straight up into the air and form like a line. Oh cool! Yeah okay I've seen people do this with a tube with propane. I think Rhin-O The Bearded did this It'd be pump propane and it has holes in it, and then starts to dance along with the music. Right? And then you get at the stand at some point right? And that standing waves when they're in an audience and they wash over you or even maybe gets stuck in one is

1:14:33 It's the weirdest feeling you'll ever have in your life. So they should be creating dance clubs with this so you have a special spot, the standing wave spot? In fact, the club will be called The Standing Wave. Well, you could do it...the wave will move around and it is pretty hard to control that much in a big open space but you can create it and then make it wander around And as it wanders around, it hits you and you go oh. I don't if that's the effect let's not open the club. That's all right. I don't want that club. It's a crazy thing when you have it hit you and so but The Grateful Dead really made money off of this. That's why people think folded them around. So they get Oh, the dead created standing waves?

1:15:16 Oh yeah, there were two bands that used to be in the 60s and 70s that banked on standing waves. But they would do that with a knob? That they could twist the angle of the speakers? The band itself at the beginning... This was created by... I'm off track here but I'll start over. Yeah but it's interesting. Owsley, the drug maker was also an audio engineer engineering. He largely created the idea of the standing wave in the audience, but he never made it so powerful that until Bob Heil actually became the... Well that's interesting because

1:15:51 My experience with standing wave is SWR, which stands for reflected standing waves. Which means your antenna's impedance is not matched to your transmitter and then the power you send out through your antenna is reflected back and if it's above one-to-three ratio, you're getting in the territory where can blow up your final power amplifier. So that's why Heil, who was a big ham guy would have even thought to come up with this in his audio products. Well Bob was the guy who invented... I'm doing an interview with him next Tuesday and I'll put this up as part of the No Agenda interviews. Excellent! But Bob was the guy who largely is responsible…I'm gonna ask him this too.

1:16:37 for blowing out the eardrums of most of the American public. He's the one who came up with a giant amps idea and made it so you could actually hear things because before he came along they couldn't do it right, and there wasn't super loud bands until Bob in the late 60s developed... Really? Yeah! He is the guy responsible for that blue cheer cream... Oh well, Bob Hiley, he's like God Bob Heil is God. You just thought we were going to realize that. Wow, I didn't know that! That's fantastic...that is...I have learned something usually you don't teach me much but and then he became a microphone guy But he still does, he can still do concerts He was a concert guy Sound Guy Well that'll teach everybody for sure But I believe it was Owsley who came up with the idea of The Standing Wave as part of the performance

1:17:31 And I've talked to every sound engineer, every time I run into someone that worked in the sound side of The Grateful Dead and asked them about this. So you guys created standing waves on purpose? And the guys always say yes! Huh... so how long have you been a deadhead? I've never liked the dead. Alright that'll teach everyone for skipping the donation segment. See they didn't learn about standing wave. Yes exactly. Good work. Okay onward now we have the Fletcher thing straightened out. Willie The Tunisian. It's Dutch. Yeah, Tunisan from Grave.

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1:20:47 But I won't claim a barony until Eric has all the accounting squared away. Uh-oh For now, just ask for some hookup karma for Adam so he can get rid of his iPhone It's not the only reason i have it but im all in! Im not worried Just encrypt the stuff that you need to and everything else will be fine You've got karma You like the iphone 6? I take it I do...I have to say I do like it It's finally one that is functional. Size, processor speed, battery seems to be pretty deep... You have to configure stuff and everything I don't have all the stuff checking in the background to alert me when there is an important post or someone has liked something that I am following So I managed to move my email G plus thing because they always want to send you a message saying oh you were mentioned

1:21:44 So it goes to the Google account, my Google email which is Dvorak at google.com, not gmail probably, there's a gmail, gmail dot com is it? Dvorak, gmail dot com. Gmail yeah So they all go in there and then now I can just erase them en masse. I don't look at anything by the way Oh that's handy right Yeah Anything if you want to send me an email and you send it to dvorak at gmail dot com It will get erased so that if...so I would recommend anyone with complaints Just send it there Makes sense to me John

1:22:23 Brian Gilbo in Oak Park, Minnesota...Massachusetts...uh Michigan. $240. He'll be a associate executive producer for show 704 last name is pronounced GILBO. Hello John and Adam after receiving a small windfall I couldn't imagine a better use for it than completing my knighthood Accounting is an email, blah-blah. I have been listening since somewhere around episode 240 which is a good time to start and I've had the pleasure of meeting both of you in person Adam at the Cleveland Hot Pockets 2008 tour and John in Detroit. I recall! I'm the guy John drove around with taking photos of abandoned buildings and gothic churches Yes we went around And went into some crazy old church in some part of town under one of the bridges

1:23:11 found our way in because it was locked. So we went to the back and then we get through, did we run into anybody? I don't know if he did, might have yeah and then we just roamed around took some very nice pictures that guys got some good gear i have to up my game thanks for everything you do i know there's already a sir old IT guy and i'd like to be dubbed Sir Brian the miserable IT guy if you don't mind sure Sure. What? Look at that. What do you want, have you tried to reboot it? Is it plugged in? Ah Jesus, you again!

1:23:51 Sir James Case, Black Knives Virginia Beach, Virginia $200. Thanks for keeping watch over the bullshit! Can I get a shout out to my sweet Lisa Lynn and a hot milf boom shakalaka please? That's one hot milf baby! Bingo Boom Shakalaka! Yay! You've got karma. There we go that's how I intend it. Thank all these great executive producers and associate executive producers for contributing To show 704, the production of 704 is all theirs. If you want to remind people go to dvorek.org slash NA we have another show coming up on Thursday. It's indeed and there will be... Never ends! There will be our last show from the lowlands and I'll be in Amsterdam in the coming few days so pick up some info and feedback and details from the people out there

1:24:43 I thought you were going to go to London for a day or two. I didn't, I can't do it! It's just... You know? Yeah. I had already planned this little bit tight and then there was one or two extra things that pop up and they just- it was kind of good that I had the buffer but I just can't go to London. I just don't have the time. That's too bad. When you visit, you know, if like you don't see everybody then all pissed off Just don't tell me there. Oh, yeah, that's what I told Patricia don't tell anyone I'm here all right the next thing you know your front page of the Telegram exactly Thank y'all very much for your support of the program and remember to be out there propagating our formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth

1:25:33 I wanted to play this little thing that i caught on CNN and it kind of pertains to our model, of course you heard our executive and associate executive producers who truly are financing the show. And we'll be thanking our other producers later in the program Now, of course this is a model that works for us. It works on an unlimited scale but it works I think as the model of the future yeah you'll be able to get by and your community will support you The days of being billionaires in media are over except for the happy few But there is going to be a lot of opportunity for people to get by In mainstream media they have moved towards this native advertising model

1:26:21 And we're seeing a lot of this now in newspapers, New York Times does it. All of the Murdoch publications...I mean you name it. I always got a note from somebody that even said that one of our producers and I can't remember if maybe read later He says that he can't get his wife to listen to the show, but he has gotten her to listen to reason about the scam of the regular media including native advertising where she says she can spot. Then it turns out that he has found and believes—I cannot confirm this—but he believes that Danielle Steele, the novelist who's worth a billion dollars puts it in her books." Oh really?

1:27:03 Really? I have his email here by the way. Why not?! Producer Eric, my wife is always suspicious of my no agenda leanings but thanks to you guys... Yeah this is the letter that I'm talking about! ...I've shown her how to pick out native advertising even in the novel she's reading it turns out Danielle Steele is a douchebag well let's douche bag her then and I would have never known if it wasn't for you I wish we had an example. Like, I'd like to have the example of what her advertising is. Yes, I think it would be hilarious. So CNN of course... Why not? It makes total sense! CNN also has to make money and they are... this is just brazen

1:27:44 This is a commercial for the military industrial complex. It's really to get the money flowing, but it has clearly been paid for this chickie who I've never seen before is presenting this and they keep cutting away to her second camera from talking on profile which is kind of like a little package trick where you don't have any money You know, you read it again. Stop reading it again from this angle what stop? So you have somebody looking at the camera yakking at yeah right Yeah And then they cut and then she's still looking in the same but the cameras over the side now She looks like she's looking away. Yeah, it gives that he's talking to somebody else, but there's nobody there right why is this a why is this a thing I

1:28:32 It looks stupid. And then in the worst case scenarios, they turn that second image that we're talking about and bitching about I'm bitching. They inverse it. They mirror it. They put into black and white. Oh yeah. Black and white grainy. Yeah. Grainy black and white. No, they didn't do that on this one. Came up with this idea But the format is interesting. That's why I wanted to play this This is a minute 30 which is gee...that's exactly what these things should be. I think that that is going to be the new unit Native Ad Minute Thirty You can buy a 20 second ad, you can buy 15 second ads, 30 second ads. Native Ad minute thirty. It's a minute thirty and they end it with the journalistic trick which the New York Times does all the time. I'm looking at you tech section

1:29:19 But they do it in, of course and it makes so much sense because technology news is also just public relations. So all the any newspaper or any news organization all they're doing is promoting Apple stuff but there's a little thing at the end that I've seen in print and now I'm hearing on CNN which I think is the it's kind of like the closer for all native advertising. Have a listen, this is about some new stealth bomber that we need to get money for and have a listen. A new U.S. stealth bombers in the works and the US Air Force says it could be ready to see action by the mid 2020s which this is a sales job for whoever selling this thing obviously then we have big conferences all over you know I think this is the new bomber being jointly developed by Boeing and Lockheed but they're taking orders

1:30:04 It was going to be ready by 20. They're taking orders, it's called a long range strike bomber and US officials are touting it as the next generation of us air dominance sounds like news to me not like a commercial so what exactly does this stealth bomber do well Well, the project is classified and the Pentagon is being very tight-lipped about its specific aircraft capabilities. What we do know though is that it will fly undetected carry conventional and nuclear weapons and be able to hit any target on the globe from anywhere any target any... I have to have this new thing that the Americans are building. We have to buy this! So why does the US need a new bomber? Well, part of it is to replace the 50-year old B52 and b1 systems but also to ensure that the U.S Air Force is ready to handle new threats as they appear around the world by the way when she's saying things like

1:30:58 the B-52 system and she talks about platform. This is marketing, this is a marketing word. Oh yeah no journalist would ever say system. Ever or it will be ready to see action what is that? Platform It'll be ready to see action What, porn? Or what kind of action are we going to see. Yeah that's marketing. Not to mention it could also act as a nuclear deterrent since 2011 the pentagon has insisted that each plane could cost up to 550 million dollars but critics say that estimate is far too low The Pentagon asked for 1.2 billion dollars So what we're doing here is we'll tell you the base sticker price

1:31:36 is 550 million. But if you want all the cool options, you get a strip. If you want this sucker decked out motors, you want engines in it? Do you want your nuclear deterrence? You want to be able to shoot anybody from anywhere in the sky wheel? Yeah. You want any of that then I'm telling you steering wheel, steering column maybe John steering wheel then you're looking at 1.2 billion base Just so you know. Alright, Potentials?

1:32:21 will triple because there's a lot more. Get in line early! You know, seem like they're journalists. And this is what the New York Times does and I'm sure you're aware of this trick. or break the bank in the process remains to be seen. So it remains to be seen, The New York Times ends every single technology review with whether this will whether this I watch will be Apple Watch will be popular remains to be seen for me. This is what they always do. But anyway, that's right. I've always avoided

1:33:16 There's other ways of saying it, but you should avoid any writer out there. You should always avoid that kind of wimpy ending. Do you have an opinion about the... Well, you can't have an opinion! Glean any information that you can make some sort of conclusion other than I don't know? This is what you're saying. I think the point is you cannot have an opinion if you're doing a native ad because that will always be construed to the right... The writer can always be blamed on well You either... you're screwed either way. Either the customer doesn't like it, or the audience can catch you on it. It's just a wishy-washy.

1:33:55 And that bomber, why doesn't somebody...the questions are I was thinking about this. There's different kinds of interviewing and interviewing styles because I was watching Larry King he has got a certain style and we've harken back to the kind of...he made a long time ago about Howard Stern who I always believed is one of the greatest interviewers in history and never gets credit for it But he's a great interviewer. I agree, and so i'm watching this show and let's play a few clips from this woman uh... I'm watching Valley Girl which is a paid for thing that is Tim Draper the venture capitalist daughter. A daughter? Oh wow you really took one for the team! I took one for the team to watch this. Wow well let's start with

1:34:38 Let's see I got three. I should have three. I see three clips yes, but I would presume the the real girl would be the first one possibly Yeah, let's try this go we start with the real girls. I just want them only hit these are short clips I just want to give you a taste of the kind of lingo that We're gonna have to listen to for a few more clips, but let's listen to the real girl You are on the reel how it going the real is so much fun? And he just gotten news that we got picked up for our second season I know Everyone needs to watch the real. I'm so excited now hold on a second all about a second are you kidding me? No, I have the same clip We had this okay well let's back up that was actually should have been the third trip So we'll play it again is no short because I just want you to hear the scream But let's go with The beginning of the show we have V. This is the schmoozed she's talking about

1:35:33 Most of the show, it seems to me the show is a paid for show. So they buy in half an hour on local station and put the daughter on and she acts like a dingbat and I'm the valley girl and all that rest of it. And they bring two or three companies which are draper funded companies paying to be on the show. Well there must be draper funded companies. I would have been surprised if they weren't. Well The Real is a show And that's what we've had on this show I always call five skanks. No, I understand but the companies they bring on I said...I would hope so Yeah that wouldn't be disappointing if they weren't But they bring a celebrity once in awhile and then this girl who was the Asian looking woman on The Real came on and she introduces her two or three times and let's start with the first introduction which is the schmooshed

1:36:21 Fashion expert and all-around style guru Genie Y is going to give us the lowdown on some Fash Tech. That's fashion, a technology... Smushed! Kill me! Fash Tech Well that's the title if I ever heard it. Fash Tech? I got some Ash Tech over here but Fash Tech I'd never considered that Now we got Fash Tech and then we have, but she has another one. She drummed up and let's play this or this is the wear a pissed Jeannie Mai it's not just a fashion expert. She's aware of pissed kill me. Just kill me now if it's over, it's over civilization is crumbling. Yeah that's a real word I mean at least it is now with years of experience in the fashion industry you may recognize her from segments on NBC The Today Show Wendy Williams E News

1:37:14 as a co-host of Fox's The Real. Jeannie is also known for her advocacy of female empowerment and has been outspoken in her goal to inspire and educate women, which I love! Basically she's super wearapist! Get it? Like sumen but she's a wearast so she's like superest! Get it? Wow... Actually I wasn't fast enough on the draw but Super-wearist Wonder Woman. Super wearapist Yeah, wearapist Alright so they bring Genie on and this is the clip that we played first We're gonna play it again And it's Genie who screams at this high pitch which is like... It broke a glass in the house You are on The Real How's it going? The Real was so much fun! We just got news that we got picked up for our second season I know congratulations!

1:38:21 Everyone needs to watch the reel. I'm so excited! Yeah, yeah... You know that is actually-I will say in the world of technology I think women are really advancing Doing a good job They should interview Sheryl Sandberg She'd be perfect for this show She's been on the show Of course it didn't say anything For instance Boy you have just turned back women 100 years with your idiotic stupid screaming And your Valley Girls, bullcrap. Anyway I forgot where i was leading with this. I liked it! That screaming just shorts you out. Yeah well we were talking about native advertising that's... yeah the native advertising thing is uh so you got this is a version of it they just bought this time and then they put these people on it's all in there and they have to and the nice little well and yeah exactly

1:39:16 Exactly. I'll think of it later, whatever it was. Sorry, well maybe I can jar your memory a bit... No just put you in a different space altogether. Watermelon head John F Kerry the man who will save the earth from global warming now typically not really allowed to play any John F Kerry clips because they're boring and just tedious. But once in a while, he has a gem and if I tighten up or come to the pauses which I always have to do with him then i think a beauty one of just a beauty comes out a total beauty And whenever it's about climate change our friend John F Carey writes his little statements himself! And I think that he is...of course he's all-in and he must have vested interest

1:40:07 because he's really... You know, I still imagine that he imagines himself as the president. He actually thinks he is president right now? Yeah! He probably feels that the President is so no good that well, I'll just do this. He doesn't know how to do a speech on climate change in two minutes I can nail this and make everybody understand it It's very simple, its just science I know how to make these comparisons Everybody else is dumb If you listen to some people of Washington or elsewhere Like The President There's a question about whether climate change really is a problem or whether we really need to respond to it. Oh, he's got a little laugh in his voice. So stop for a minute and just think about the basics Yeah because you know Can't believe these morons Let's think about the basics When an apple falls from a tree it will drop toward the ground We know that because of the basic laws of physics Science tells us that gravity exists Okay And no one disputes that

1:41:07 Science also tells us that when the water temperature drops below 32 degrees Fahrenheit, it turns to ice. No one disputes that! What do you think he's gonna do John? I have no idea So when science tells us That our climate is changing and human beings are largely causing that change By what right do people stand up and just say well I dispute that The science is in! Or I deny that elementary truth. I deny that elementary truth, I tell you! Is it an elementary truth? Yes, climate change is an elementary truth Not just a truth but an elementary truth It's not just a computer model It is elementary truth And kids when your parents accuse you of stealing that cookie You say, I did not eat that cookie That is the ELEMENTARY TRUTH MOM

1:42:04 And yet there are those who do so. Literally a couple of days ago I read about some state officials who were actually trying to ban the use of the term climate change in public documents because they're not willing to face the facts. Future generations will judge our effort, not just as a policy failure but as a collective moral failure of historic consequence. A collective moral failure of... We're all going to be dead! No one's gonna be questioning anything. They will want to know how world leaders could possibly have been so blind or so ignorant, or so ideological, or so dysfunctional

1:42:42 and frankly so stubborn that we failed to act on knowledge that was confirmed by so many scientists, so many studies over such a long period of time documented by so much evidence. Last year was the warmest of all! No lies! Lies it was not the warmest of all 1970? Was it 97-95? 97! Lies! So much evidence Last year was the warmest of all. He says it like Santa Claus, and Santa Claus was the warmest of all! Lies! And I think if you stop and think about it seems that almost every next year becomes one of the hottest on record No, not true 97 more lies. And with added heat comes an altered environment

1:43:37 It's not particularly complicated. I don't mean to sound patronizing, douchebaggy, a-holey... You know, haughty but think about it for a minute. Haughty? Think about it for a minute yo He identified all his traits! Yeah, well you are haughty that is exactly how you sound my friend The exact by the way, the climate gate emails have been published in a handy little PDF It's in the show notes under agenda 21 if you want to download that and have a good life. It's nice Just nice to read You know yeah nice to see the bullshitting behind-the-scenes it can be nice can be nice Yeah this number didn't come out right what we're gonna do change it use a different number just change it Doesn't take much just get a pencil. Do just change it

1:44:22 I got a lot of feedback on our conversation about Common Core from Thursday. Did you get a lot of feedback? A little I got that. I still am distressed by that guy on Twitter, that tweeted two of us saying that there was the last show which i thought was just a one of our it was a good show is what I thought was one of our better shows that wasn't one of the greatest shows we've ever done did someone complain? Did someone complain yeah he says you said something to him you said man overboard this is the guy oh yeah but the sound like the guy last show was OTT and it was all true! I knew it's true and real and I can't take it anymore I'm quitting listening yeah man overboard

1:44:58 Yeah, and you said man overboard. We burned him out man! But how? It was a very light-hearted show I mean it may...I think it was the hour and a half doggy shaggy dog story. It's all my fault of course Well what's interesting and but even the shaggy dog story was not over the top No it wasn't You were pounding a nail in and then you were making sure it was deeply it was in there You weren't using a nail gun let's put it that way yeah I like to pounded hard So you're pounding it and pounding and pounding it as you are want to do, I guess upset this guy. Yeah well I'm sorry. The fact is that couldn't have been the common core thing he's not a student Well here's the most interesting... I was very upset by people who go overboard Well then you know what? It's up to us to toss a life raft thats the life ring

1:45:49 That's why I said man overboard and he didn't come back, and i don't know what to do. He's not yelling help you know? If you're in the water or your overboard if your not yelling for help I can't do much Yeah No he can come back He's swimming away from the boat He's adrift Producer Ben P sent a response and he said, I guess he just started listening to the show and heard something on Thursday about Common Core that might shed more light on things. I work at a reseller as a sales and implementation engineer for networking in wireless and have spent most of my past several months trying to sell networks to schools because these PARCC tests—that's the common core—are requiring schools to massively upgrade their wireless and other infrastructure We're always looking for the hook on these things, obviously.

1:46:32 To that, this year the FCC-USAC changed a rate program... I'm not sure what that is. ...that schools were previously using to help pay for internet and phone service in poor schools used for networks At the start of the year they committed $1 billion per year for the next five years to help schools upgrade That's 5 billion bucks that i'm not hearing anyone talk about Each school essentially gets 150 dollars per student times number students times discount rate Which is basically... This is why they hate homeschoolers. Yeah, because you're not forced into buying stuff! Because of the response the FCC said this wasn't enough so they're allocating an additional 1.7 billion dollars this year and probably next year all this money comes from the USF The Universal Service Fund charge which I think is what you pay on your cell phone bill based on the general market share 60 to 65 percent of the 2.7 billion this year will go to Cisco

1:47:29 There you go. Google is also making out because lots of schools are buying Chromebooks for all the kids to use, to take the tests on because all students have to test with a certain time frame that basically mandates there's a testing device per student. Chromebooks are winning by a large margin... Market share by a large margin because of the price point and ease-of-use versus say Windows or Apple which also means that all these students have Google accounts to get hooked on the ecosystem and Google gets all the data for them And I want to play your fifth clip from that Common Core conversation. The little girl is so fantastic, the marketing Girl wonder students will spend up to 11 hours taking the test over nine days Most will take them on computers and everyone's expecting glitches They don't know what the computer thing is gonna be like a lot of them There's like all these different problems Like dragging and dropping and a lot of students don't know how to do this kind of stuff on the computer I think the only people who benefit from this would be those who are selling the tests so

1:48:32 Nurse Tracy sent me a note after hearing the show, and she said oh wow because she looked at those third grade tests you were talking about which of course are impossible for any human being to understand unless you are being specifically segregated from the herd. And that's what I'm hearing people say now these tests are so ridiculous that the kids who do well on them they're the winners and this happens in the medical field all the time specifically designed tests under common standards that are intended to, you know, separate the...what is it? The wheat from the chaff. And I'm thinking there's something to it besides the money. I think it's chaff isn't it chaff? Chaff yeah continue right

1:49:27 You think what? Well, so two things besides the money bonanza. It seems that these tests are and it would make sense for guys like Bill Gates and all these elites who were funding this hate. Hey, Soros today we have to find the good kids can get dumped arrest of the rest of losers they are no use to the new system of the grand game. We got too many people in the world. We have we have to listen to the Georgia Guidestones and go back to 500 million Well, I have my charter school clips if you want. Fits right in! Play a chart now this is on Democracy Now and they have one Gonzales who was just kind of a stooge but he wrote an interesting article in the Post or The Daily News because although he doesn't ever

1:50:19 Give us the insight that we're really, really looking for. There was a meeting of the... Well I'll make some comments after you play the first part of this clip. An interesting symposium that was held at The Harvard Club yesterday an all-day symposium titled Bonds and Blackboards Investing in Charter Schools. And it was a meeting basically of hedge fund types sponsored by the Gates Foundation and by the Walton Foundation of the Walmart family. Basically... Notice she doesn't say, oh you mean the computer guy about Bill Gates? It's just accepted that he's a genius because he made money. Enticing more investors to begin to see how they can make money off of charter schools and all they're supposing was a small protest of parents outside but it really

1:51:10 really has marked the enormous change that's occurred in New York politics and I think around the country. As a new report showed, that hedge fund executives over the last decade have poured nearly $40 million into political contributions just in New York State. The prime beneficiary over the last few years has been Governor Cuomo who received almost five million dollars we're talking about Carl Icahn, you know, the famous corporate raider. We're talking about Paul Singer, the vulture fund—hedge fund guy. We're talking about Julian Robertson of Tiger Management—some of the richest people in New York City. And they are also—most of them also major backers of charter schools.

1:51:54 Where do they make money from charter schools? Well, that's—I think a lot of it now is going to be coming in with the facilities financing that's going to occur. Governor Cuomo pressed the legislature for instance in New York State to begin providing what will be the equivalent of about $2,600 per child build new facilities for charter schools, forcing Mayor de Blasio in New York City to share some of this cost. So there's going to be a new revenue stream in addition to direct funding from the state for per-pupil education. There is now going to be a charter facilities fund that has been set up." Oh man what a bonanza!

1:52:33 Well, here's the problem. Yeah it sounds like but the original question to him was how do you make money? He never really answers because he never went to the meeting I mean he knew about... Seriously if i'm in this spot and there is a meeting like this at the Harvard club and if there is any way in the world that I can get into most things If I'm dressed right, of course. Yeah you're not wearing the speedos. It's just my normal attire i wouldn't go and get into anything. The Crocs. Speedos. So I'd go in and listen carefully because they probably are showing a model of financing and how you can get it here's what... Well obviously things make money

1:53:18 Yeah. So there's a money-making aspect to it, but now if you listen to part two it gets worse because...and this is the problem with democracy now they their analysis is really piss poor for one thing he's almost making the comment that all this money so Republicans can steal all his money and and they're trying to get Republicans in because I mean more charter schools even though the target is Cuomo a Democrat the people that are funding this, the Gates Foundation Democrats. It's all Democrat, Democrat, Democrat up and down the line but somehow these evil Republicans which is again a thing that bothers me to know and these people can't be... Lies!

1:53:54 Lies. Here's where it falls, you can listen to him try to explain something and it just is a mess. It's just a mess there's no analysis there's no concise look at this and it's just too bad. And of course the governor wants to lift the cap on charter schools so allow many more charter schools uh to be started in New York The amount of money is not just in the direct contributions. It's also in money being given to new groups, the dark money that we've seen after Citizen United case where folks like Robertson and Dan Loeb

1:54:35 contributed as much as a million dollars apiece last year to a new group funding ads promoting Republicans for Senate seats who are in New York state, which would assure against support for charter schools. So it's an enormous amount of money that is being poured into the this—these political campaigns, specifically by hedge fund folks who are very close to charter schools. In fact, one charter network alone, the Success Academy, which I've reported on repeatedly, 19 members of the board of directors or their family members gave $600,000

1:55:18 Governor Cuomo's campaigns for his last two election campaigns. Oh, yeah. So there is real money there. There is real money. We should start the No Agenda Charter School for critical thinking. Yeah, critical thinking. That's the whole thing...critical thinking. You know when someone...when the government says we're gonna teach your kid critical thinking you probably gonna wind up with a moron? You can't trust those guys. They're forcing the computers on everyone, so this whole thing is about computers selling more newer computers selling surfaces you know this isn't rocket science to see what's going on. A friend of mine over here in the lowlands heard the show and he's been investigating similar setup to Common Core here but it's all the same guy Pearson's same people are all involved and it's everywhere makes so much sense where do

1:56:06 You get you, you figure out who's smart. Do that by tracking them on the Chromebooks and the Google stuff and then they have an identity in your world if you can start exploiting that and seeing if there any good these are no good or just set them on that path. Catch him early. Yeah catch the good ones earlier. Intervention we see this kid is a big dummy this guy so stupid he cant even use his computer its just a dummy They don't know how to drag-and-drop Yeah, I mean we standardized the test so everybody can do them. So it's you know It's not that we're yeah, it's just not an excuse by the way for segregation to we're sorry We're sorry mrs.. Johnson little Timmy is just not really keeping up with the group

1:56:44 Yeah, he's an idiot. He's gonna go on the idiot track. Idiot school! The old... just get me on the tracks. Straight track to prison. Yeah well that's the hedge that Bill Gates has made. Put him to work where they only get paid 10 cents an hour. But that's the hedge. That's why the Gates Foundation invest in the Correctional Corporation of America. It's a hedge for the kids that are no good." Yeah, yeah, hedge funds. So we're all in on Common Core universities and selling notebooks and tablets and everything and software and cloud... And then I think maybe the guy was... The guy on Twitter may have been depressed by the notion, I think that we put forth- Now you're talking now. That you have this Common Core thing creating

1:57:31 classes of people that are for the society of the future which will have very little workers because everything's gonna be run done by robots and service sector all the rest of it. I'm self-driving cars, hoverboards... And let's face reality about driverless cars this means truck drivers out there all you truck drivers are listening to show on a long haul yeah you better start learning how to unite unionizing in such a way that you can shut this down cuz your out! Yeah we can't have that There's gonna be automated trucks, there'd be...you know. I think that'll happen before any other passenger cars. That would make the most sense, automated trucks. Well, the way they're gonna play this is gonna be interesting because the passenger car...yeah, the automated trucks may be first cause the passenger cars are going to have the bigger impact on society. Of course. They're gonna screw everything up once those things get in place. But see no one will object to putting in you know, the infrastructure on the roads for the trucks

1:58:26 And what we're going to have, first there has to be a publicity campaign. So we're gonna have a lot of truck accidents. Oh yes and hookers killing hookers. Killing them? What run them over? Yeah no the truck drivers you know having sex with the hooker and then killing him. You put it in the book! That could be I'll put it in the book. Whatever the case is truck drivers are gonna be marginalized or gonna be...I think i'm going to write an op-ed about this. You should do this because I think you're, yeah, we should post it on Trucker Blogs There's a couple of publications for truckers, but this is going to be it's going to be a long campaign and all these trucks are so dangerous. Yeah And they're gonna have... They're too dangerous to be on the road They're gonna show pictures of like that All they do is go down here to this freeway I can see which is a highway 80 We can almost predict- Drive trucks for every car we can almost predict the disaster That's gonna be the tipping point. It's gonna happen Oh mom and her family of young ones

1:59:25 It was crushed by a careless Mexican truck driver. Who just hours before had killed a hooker. Truck drivers are out of control, they must be stopped! By the way I want all of them because we have a lot of truck drivers listening We're on your side...I am at least. I don't know if John's all for this. I'm not, the truck drivers are great and they're salt of the earth Yeah and their hams. And they better realize it fast They're not the salt of the earth, they're the backbone of the country. They are actually. Yeah! If it wasn't for trucks we'd be very hungry in Austin. No truck drivers no salesmen? NO NOTHING That's right and sysadmins. Truck drivers salesman and a sysadmins Not necessarily in that order Right those are the three... The big three

2:00:16 Anyway, so this is coming and we were but so he brought up the whole thing and then did the prisons You know Let's put everyone in prisons and to make them do jobs for 10 cents an hour because they're criminals They can't be paid a minimum wage. Let's do that and create you know federal service think we have jihadi truck drivers with that help No, it'll help the movement away from... That's what I'm saying. Would that be another prediction? Jihadist truck drivers? It would help movement towards robot trucks. No it wouldn't help at all What do you mean yes?! Of course! A jihadi truck driver Yeah then that will be an incentive to get rid of truck drivers Yes that is what I said

2:00:55 Oh, I thought you were trying to be back on the side of the trucker. No no no! I'm just predicting what else could happen we had the dead hookers... oh yeah oh that oh yeah truck driver this man was an actual truck driver in the union he was a union truck driver and he drove this huge truck full of explosives into the white house thank god no one was hurt i think that yes unionized truck driver but he was a member of his local truck union Yeah. Three hours earlier he had killed a hooker, a prostitute at the Denny's Yeah, we've got some native advertised. We could sell some native on this shit man come on It's good get Denny's in there yeah Danny's would be good and Danny's would be a good spot if you had All of the truckers usually go to these places that are giant parking lots. Yeah well they're great I need something hey Well first of all amen by the way we made mentors bump on no agenda discs and distribute them yes Yes, yes, and Amy's a Memphis bump on that. I think we were onto something oh

2:01:57 Okay, so well that was anyway. So this guy I believe was Depressed from hearing these kind of seeing because what we've done is we revealed the obvious yeah just by reading Actually, yeah Common not even know it isn't no critical thinking even needed there It's pretty it's pretty the idea you just have to pay attention and just have a look at all that stuff where two plus three is approximately four I want to focus on Euroland for a minute if you don't mind. Yanis Varoufakis, the Greek finance minister... Stud! Well yes he made a big boo-boo but this shows you what he's really all about this guy

2:02:51 He's just another one of those egomaniacs. We are in the process of legislating for tax arrears, we will legislate on minimum wages in good time after deliberation with the social partners which is what we always promise to do The press has a field day these days and concocting stories that have the purpose of creating noise. What we need now is peace and quiet in order to get down to work, to put Greece back on the path for recovery But you're at fault for that? Is Paris match a PR disaster in hindsight You will allow me not comment on particular stories in the press but you put it in the press

2:03:34 You will allow me not to comment on particular stories in the press. You're a liability though for this government because you are trying to promote a serious... Let's just explain what, uh, what's happening here He and his family did a whole pictorial with Paris Match Yeah which is like kind of like society and there he is at his office It's like okay and people Mmm yeah yeah yeah that's fair There it is, he's lifting up his wife they're drinking some wine together It's all posed. Yeah, it's him at home holding his book What's this damn book? He's like he's reading his own book dickhead Rational conflict good My writing rational conflict which is His but that actually makes a lot of sense now I probably have to read this book rational conflict So here's idea. I don't read from his little blurb here

2:04:30 Rational Conflict was my first single-authored book. Its origins lie in my PhD thesis, even though it shares not a single word with that document." The thesis was a typically dry microeconomic investigation of various parametric optimization models of industrial strike activity. Yeah sounds like bullcrap. Yeah well but he's following his own I think he believes that he's some kind of guru and has figured out this fantastic way of changing the world through rational conflict, where adults disagree and don't shoot each other or cause distress with economic sanctions. So I thought that was kinda interesting just like all these other douchebags with his little pictorials...and then something that when we played the clip

2:05:21 I heard it in the back of my mind, it was tickling something. A couple of people mentioned this to us so I wanted just bring this up again when Nigel Farage was complaining about Junker the Drunker wanting a European army and first he referenced the EU forces who were goose-stepping as he called it, raising the EU flag. And then he said this... The opportunity is being seized and Mr Juncker said we must convey to Russia that we are serious! Who do you think you are kidding? Mr Junker We do not want... So obviously there's laughter from the UK and I knew there was something there. Because they got the joke? They got the joke, and I grew up watching this in The Netherlands it was actually on TV i'll just play a little bit this is Dad's Army. And so there you go

2:06:21 comparing Junker the Drunker to Hitler. Yeah, yeah cool. Without doing it without actually using the Hitler word which is a violation of modern rules... Of internet rules I thought that was pretty good! Yeah no it was a good catch too by the audience. A number people of course the Brits all caught it so that's very good All right, what else anything from Europe because otherwise well the big thing here and I think of it's so obvious is Jeremy Clarkson being suspended from Top Gear by the BBC and Of course there's a lot of coverage of this here. The story keeps changing now It's apparently punched out his producer for not getting him a stake Yeah Well This is fake and I'm sure and the reason why is its all PR? And why is it PR because this

2:07:16 It's the first year that Top Gear premiered simultaneously in 50 countries. They had this huge sale and I think they added 20 or 22 new countries And I have a feeling, because I'd never heard of this. I didn't know that this had taken place and know that this was their big push...I have the feeling it's just a little PR and it's working quite well because it's like wildfire around the world now they've seen all we're pulling these episodes so of course it creates demand then I predict Clarkson will be reinstated any day now

2:07:52 But it really is just a PR job for all these new markets. Oh, this is news! That's airing on TV Thursday night!" Let's see what the hubbub about? This guy must be something. He punches out his producer... There is no producer No one has heard of the Purdue. Well, where is this guy or her? I've actually seen two pictures of them both have a different person Exactly there's my point There was one picture of him as an older guy and one picture was a young man It's like wait a minute which one of these two guys is this whatever their case yeah alright I got the guess the movie oh Oh, it's been awhile since we've done that We go let me put it up

2:08:45 And now it's time for another episode of Guess That Movie. Okay, um... Now you can guess both the movie and you can guess the actor if you want to but this is a- The clip is called Bad Acting Why can't she just love her? She's so easy to love You know nothing about my daughter! You hear me?! Nothing!! I know that she is good and strong and deserves all the love this world has to give Can't you see that?? How wonderful, how special she is. Is this Bill and Ted's excellent adventure with Keanu Reeves? You know when he said that how special this is... He said- This is the insincerity of a crappy actor Obama says special the same way that he does at the end of his clip But did I- Am I right? Yes, Keanu Reeves I nailed it

2:09:43 In Walking the Clouds is the movie. Oh, okay I had...I thought it was Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure! Well i've never even heard this movie Walking the Clouds Yeah, Walking in the Clouds Ah well that's nice another episode ladies and gentlemen of uh Guess The Movie Gee, well while you were clipping movies I read all 400 pages of the FCC... I thought it was 330 pages. The whole document they released was 400 pages. Oh. The whole doc. I kept hearing 333

2:10:20 Well, let me open it up. I wanted to share just a couple of things... Yes, everybody myself included wants to hear as concise analysis of what you've read. Well, it's pretty obvious we know what it is. We know that this is about truly is when you dig into the bright line rules which means they are explained in this document and some of them are still open to interpretation There really sets up just all, not just censorship because of the lawful content, lawful network traffic, lawful devices. I mean there's all this stuff if it's not lawful and of course there is no definition of lawful in here but there's you know unlawful can be jaywalking that's the kind of stuff that you have to look at when dealing with the language of the

2:11:10 Hold on a second, hold on a second Adam. I thought all bits were equal? I thought packets were all equal what does lawful have to do with it? Well they're not equal because... If all packets and all bits are equal yeah What is lawful have to do? Lawful's something outside of the system. Well i'll make it even nuttier The way these packets arrive and how they're arranged And what they contain just the control portion of the packet can also be deemed unlawful Then that's... Yes. Why yes? I just want to read a few pieces that have highlighted you can find the document of course in the show notes 704.noagendanotes.com This is from the introduction, The lesson of this period first i would like to mention hold on let me just um The group Free Press which is a lobbying group who say they are dedicated to net neutrality

2:12:09 are mentioned 46 times in this document. Somebody else pointed this out! Now, it is important to understand that this group has received over two million dollars from the Open Society Foundation... That's George Soros favorite of the conspiracy minded and almost four million dollars from The Ford Foundation And the guy who's really the center of this is this guy Robert McChesney, a communications professor at University Illinois Champaign-Urbana, Illinois. Right. Communist? He is a communist! Thank you! A couple of notes here... So here's something that he said about

2:12:48 News and subsidies news is not a commercial product as a public good Necessary for a self-governing society once we accept this then we can talk about the kind of media policies and subsidies We want so he advocates Having news paid for by the government. Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? The unthinkable has become thinkable and the free market internet, one of freedom's great tribes is set to be reduced to a public utility subject to pervasive economic regulation and in turn to content control. This of course is people who do not agree with the Free Press' message throughout this documentation these rules

2:13:30 Here's another McChesney quote, advertising is the voice of capital. All bad! Bad! It's bad! We need to do whatever we can to limit capitalist propaganda regulate it minimize it and perhaps even eliminate it The fight against hyper-commercialism becomes especially pronounced in the era of digital communications Somebody telling you to buy a Ford Fiesta Is not propaganda Yeah well that's just letting you know who's all over this document Okay, the lesson of this period and the overwhelming consensus on the record. This is the 4 million people that were click farms or whatever who sent in a comment...

2:14:11 Of course, from all these paid-for policy groups. You find it interesting that this 4 million...4 million...we've heard from four million... we've heard from four million meme is so overused because it's fake! Four million people? Do you know one person who sent in a comment? One?! No and I don't imagine anyone could read through four million comments. It would take forever. Yeah so and it's obvious and that is the number that Free Press has been promoting anyway The OOM consensus on the record is that carefully tailored rules to protect internet openness will allow investment and innovation to continue to flourish.

2:14:50 Consistent with that experience and the record built in this proceeding, today we adopt carefully tailored rules which is regulation that would prevent specific practices we know are harmful to internet openness such as blocking throttling and paid prioritization. As well as a strong standard of conduct designed to prevent the deployment of new practices that would harm internet openness so much for experimentation Like what? Well, I'll get to that. We also enhance our transparency rule to ensure that consumers are fully informed as whether the services they purchase are delivering what they expect. Skip a bit here... Under this approach, consumers can continue to enjoy

2:15:33 Are you ready, consumer? I mean you're not a human being or a citizen or someone who could actually be publishing something pushing something upstream. No no in the introduction alone all the FCC considers you John C Dvorak to have the c stand for consumer. John Consumer Dvorak that i find abhorrent yes Under this approach, consumers can continue to enjoy unfettered access to the Internet over their fixed and mobile broadband connections. This is where the lawsuits start!

2:16:09 Innovators can continue to enjoy the benefits of a platform that affords them unprecedented access to hundreds of millions of consumers across the country and around the world, and network operators can continue to reap the benefits of their investments. This is not what the internet was intended for—for consumers—and the fact that your government America, of Gitmo nations considers You to be just a consumer and not a possible provider or someone with ideas or a ship you want to share. No, your consumer morons informed by the views of nearly 4 million commenters are staff led roundtables numerous ex parte presentations? What is that ex parte presentations mean something I usually know what it means but for some reason off site meetings or vacations

2:17:00 It's something like that. Look it up, look at it I'm looking at it up. All right. I'll continue numerous ex parte presentations meetings with individual commissioners and staff and more our decision today once and for all like were the three musketeers once in for all puts into place strong sustainable rules grounded in multiple sources of our legal authority to ensure that Americans reap the economic social and civic benefits of an open Internet today and into the future The legal term meaning from, by or for the party. An ex parte decision is one decided by a judge without requiring all the parties to add it to the controversy to be present. A little meetings in their backroom meetings. Yeah but without anyone who's there to disagree? Sounds right.

2:17:55 Threat, here's point A. Threats to internet openness remain today The record reflects and this is interesting The record reflects John that broadband providers hold all the tools necessary to deceive consumers degrade content or disfavor the content they don't like What overwhelming evidence is there to say the record reflects? that, I mean yeah you could say the police can kill all citizens. That's a very strange thing to say Isn't it though? Yeah Because in fact you are the one who has said most often what are we talking about What have they done All these things that they could do, yeah they could do it You even said this on twit This is one of your main twit arguments which is shallow for the audience

2:19:03 I'm so sorry. Shouldn't do that, shouldn't do that. Do you have any... Okay? I guess you've changed your mind or...? No no, it's fine. I just wondered if you were going to reiterate your position. No, I got nothing. Here is my latest thing. I am thinking that if you are going to force this equal access equal this, you can't do this, the idea of course It almost now forbids peering. So strong rules that protect consumers from past and future tactics have threatened the open internet. Number one, clear bright line rules

2:19:47 Again, because the record overwhelmingly supports adopting rules and demonstrates that three specific practices invariably harm... excuse me. The open internet blocking... I'm sorry it's late here i haven't eaten properly. Blocking throttling and paid prioritization this order bans each of them Applying the same rules to both fixed and mobile broadband internet access. This is a problem, technically speaking. So no blocking. Consumers who subscribe to retail broadband in an access service must get what they have paid for... ...access to all lawful destinations on the Internet." This is new one! Lawful destinations on the Internet?

2:20:28 Wow, I've never heard that one. That's a new one! So that actually reverses it and says if you're requesting this IP address to send packets to it because let's face it that's what the level we have to look at... Pirate Bay! ...that can be blocked as an example so you could be blocked by law at some level way outside of the ISP Anyway, this essential and all-accepted principle has long been a tenant of commission policy stretching back to its landmark decision in Carterphone. And now this is how they're comparing access to law... This is bullshit what they're going to do right here! I know but you know it is if you read what Carterphone is. Carterphone protected the customer's right to connect the telephone to the monopoly telephone network so there they're equating at destination being unlawful with

2:21:18 a device that was not sanctioned by the telephone company. I don't see how you can equate those two. No, it's just to confuse the dummies who think this is great! And they say to that a person engaged in the provision of broadband internet access insofar as such person is so engaged shall not block lawful content applications services or non harmful devices subject to reasonable network management which of course lets the ISPs off the hook because reasonable network management isn't easy part and we'll get to that with appearing So, applications can be deemed unlawful. Services can be deemed unlawful. Non-harmful devices... Okay next no throttling the 2010 open ended rule against blocking contains an ancillary prohibition against the degradation of lawful content application services and devices on the ground that such degradation would be tantamount to blocking

2:22:19 This order creates a separate rule to guard against degradation targeted at specific uses of the customer's broadband connection. Then here we go, the same thing about a broadband internet access provider may or shall not impair or degrade lawful internet traffic on the basis of internet content... Now add content to the mix! So content free speech itself can be deemed unlawful I do not know of any content, if...I presume content to be understandable communication. How that could ever be deemed illegal under or unlawful under First Amendment free speech? You know dealing with the First Amendment here dealing with the Internet that's now regulated there you go! I mean for example you can find out a network at $350,000 for showing in nipple for a microsecond on a Super Bowl

2:23:14 That's free speech in any other context, but it's... But in a regulated environment. It's not free speech? It is against the law because we've decided that nipples are bad! Yes. Bah. The ban on throttling is necessary to both fulfill the reasonable expectations of a customer who signs up for broadband service that promises access to all of the lawful internet. Wow! They're using the word lawful too often. I mean, obviously this is an end around...this is a play and the publishing plays like it's fan show. But did you just hear what that said? Yeah That customers just like when you turn on CBS Super Bowl should be able to…the promise should be fulfilled, the reasonable expectations of a customer who signs up for broadband service that promises access to all of the lawful internet

2:24:03 Yeah, then we have no paid prioritization. Person engaged in provision of broadband etc. should not engage in paid prioritization. Paid prioritization refers to ListenUp SysAdmins, network admins refers to the management of a broadband provider's network to directly or indirectly favor some traffic over other traffic including through use of techniques such as traffic shaping prioritization resource reservation or other forms of preferential traffic management either A. in exchange for consideration monetary otherwise from a third party B. To benefit an affiliated entity

2:24:42 So I think there's a lot of room in there. Well, there is a lot of room to screw Google and Netflix for sure! And they're going to get screwed because now here are people who say, oh you want my Google? I want my Netflix. I want my YouTube. I want my Facebook I'm on my Facebook. The way it goes now, if these rules ever get out of court which is... Unlikely, unlikely But it's still worth talking about Is that now I say to someone or my lawyer that you know I've got a Vimeo and I've got lots of videos but

2:25:22 I don't get my videos across as quickly as Google because Google has an appliance right in the ISP's office sitting next to the CEO is sitting right there. This is preferred treatment, this can... But if they took no monetary gain? No! The word is consideration and it's in there you read it. Hold on let me read it. I will read it exactly A in exchange for consideration, monetary or otherwise from a third party or be to benefit an affiliated entity.

2:25:59 I give you a huge server with 100 terabytes or more, a petabyte of hard disks and everything else. And I say here this is free put it on the network and you'll be able to serve YouTube videos easier that is what's going on right now. That violates that rule It's a consideration for the benefit of... How about if they just rent a rack and put their stuff in there? If they rent a rack, they're paying money. Yeah so that's right. That's considerate. Can't you just be a customer? So Google can't be a customer of the ISPs because that's consideration Exactly Wow! And you can Netflix. Wow! That's hardcore man. Good catch. That's the first thing I'm thinking of

2:26:53 I'd look at that rule and my hands would be, oh boy we're gonna be making some money now because that Netflix operation is gonna have to pull those servers. They're everywhere." Then there's this...no unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage to consumers or edge providers. This is what Leo will be talking about today, edge providers. And the key insight of the virtuous cycle is that broadband providers have both the incentive and ability to act as gatekeepers standing between edge providers and consumers. No evidence with a reeling doing this, by the way. As gatekeeper services they can extract unfair tolls. Jeez! Enough with the analogies. Such conduct would, as the commission concluded in 2010, reduce the rate of innovation at the edge and in turn the likely rate of improvements to network infrastructure

2:27:47 Now, so about this they say... now here's what is interesting. They cite Benjamin Franklin. Oh please! Gatekeeper power can be exercised through a variety of technical and economic means and without a catch-all standard it would be that as Benjamin Franklin said A little neglect may breed great mischief thus the order adopts the following standard So they're quoting Benjamin Franklin to say these guys are probably assholes Because if you don't watch them, then they're gonna go do great mischief. Very insulting Yes any person engaged in the provision of broadband internet access but shall not... This is again this goes back to the What's-his-name guy that was part of the free press operation that we were quoting a minute ago All those quotes it goes back to the fact he's a communist Oh yeah Yeah That guy And this is a very

2:28:46 I would say government-centric, government dominating hatred of capitalistic system as it exists. Commies man! With everything that you know everyone is... You can't trust them if he's a CEO he's obviously a criminal area has criminal intent because that's the way the system works That's the way capitalism is. They're all criminals yeah bankers ISPs you got money you're a criminal. McChesney, McChesney Unless your Bill Gates or Boy, I love his name. He's okay because he gives money for vaccines And there you have it good night everybody was fun doing the show

2:29:25 Okay, I'm almost done with this. It's good for you to do this is prep for you shall not unreasonably interfere with or unreasonably disadvantage the end users ability... ...to select access and use broadband internet access service or the lawful Internet content application services devices of their choice or edge providers ability to make lawful content application services or device available to end users reasonable network management shall not be considered a violation of this rule So just a lot of lawful content in there. Then they have the transparency, which I marked it up but i'm not going to read that you can read through yourself... Oh! There was something here yeah scope of the rules The open internet rules above apply to both fixed and mobile broadband Internet access services

2:30:13 Consistent to the 2010 order, today's order applies its rules to the consumer-facing service broadband networks that provide which is known as BIAS. Broadband Internet Access Service I've never heard of the acronym before but listen to what is considered a broadband access network provider it's very specific a mass market retail service by wire or radio that provides the capability to transmit data and to receive data from all other, or substantially all internet endpoints including any capabilities that are incidental to and enable the operation of the communication service but excluding dial-up internet access service. This term also encompasses any service that the Commission

2:30:57 finds to be providing a functional equivalent of the service described in the previous sentence, or that is used to evade the protection set forth in this part. Now what I read in this is something that I think is overlooked... That the FCC by definition, by their bright line rules are providing two different types of service one for complete free speech applications and just a bonanza and one that is highly regulated If you want to listen to the NO Agenda show, the way I read this piece... in the future. You will be using a dial-up connection. By definition! Dial up does not adhere to all these lawful content rules

2:31:48 Well, I'm going to have to read this through myself when you got it marked up. Yeah here's the interconnection piece that'll be done. Bias involves the exchange of traffic between a broadband internet access provider and connecting networks. The representation to retail customers that they will be able to reach all or substantially all internet endpoints necessarily includes the promise to make the interconnection arrangement necessary to allow that access While we have more than a decade's worth of experience with last-mile practices, we lack a similar depth of background in the internet traffic exchange context. Thus, we find that the best approach is to watch learn and act as required but not intervene now especially not with prescriptive rules this order for the first time provides authority to consider claims involving interconnection A process that is sure to bring greater understanding to the Commission So hello CDNs! Hello everybody

2:32:39 That regulation will be coming. They just have to watch and learn, and then there's some stuff about unlimited data plans and you're not allowed to downgrade the speed that'll also be forbidden... Is there anything in there about caps? Well that's one thing Okay, recently significant concern has arrived when mobile providers have attempted to justify certain practices as reasonable network management practices such as applying speed restrictions to customers using unlimited data plans in ways that effectively force them to switch to price plans with less generous data allowances. But that does deal indirectly with caps

2:33:21 It seems to me that the way I would do this if I was one of the ISPs is, I would just say okay we'll go along with all this and now you got caps. Or you could also say well we're going to do this the same way but... And this is what I honestly believe will happen We are going to meter your usage Well, that's it has to. It has to yeah meter usage is the only way you can do this properly right now to do this right and so everyone will end up even though that's not what the intention was they'll end up somehow paying more than ever before and be more restricted. This is bad." So, again I don't worry a bit about this because we had the clip the woman from the mobile industry she says, We already are regulated there's a congressional law that regulates us were regulated by Congress. Congress regulates our business if the FCC steps in and tries to push us into the title two

2:34:17 bin, we are going to sue and sue and sue them again. And so specifically they say...and this is what it will be about the definition of tailoring. So if you take your suit to the tailor he will adjust it for size but not necessarily for the third leg you just grew talking about myself obviously So, they say this is Title II tailored for the 21st century. So this is going to be...the argument is gonna be about the definition of tailoring as we saw earlier it gets a little tough to compare someone connecting their own phone to the network with you can't connect to that destination or that IP address but okay well you can find that in the show notes.

2:35:07 Now the follow-up clip was another one lost clip from The Valley Girl. Fits right in. You have a Valley Girl clip? Crowdfunding time! Oh, this is your genius job. Now I really want to watch Cool Runnings. Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up it's crowdfunding time! That should be... hold on a second we need do this properly This is great I need to put something in front of it. Hold on a second Let's do a whole sequence, brand new sequence ladies and gentlemen Okay... let's try this see if this works

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2:40:52 A chemist that works for the... so this is what her post on Facebook. "...a chemist that works for the state test for radioactivity." I might have had him at dosimeter by asking if he wore one, of course! And i could talk to about Fukushima productively and when we started talking about the banks failing I could whip out Sarbanes-Oxley and how that changed the banking game I wish i could recall all of the knowledge derived from no agenda that kept our 104 minute conversation interesting but it just did. I realize it now thank you no agenda! I landed a sunday brunch with a six foot four human way out of my education league." That's fabulous isn't that great? So did she get laid, I guess well we'll get an update...

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2:42:26 Eric was saying something about the rings just for those of you who are waiting for them sometime mid-march, which would be around now Oh by the way citizen X's date is this morning. Oh It's kind of a morning date well it's a brunch date Mimosa's still waiting on the rings Eric says harassing for tracking did sees got all kinds of problems dealing with China's hard No kidding Alright, then we have some title changes today. Baron Thomas Nussbaum as we discussed earlier is now an Earl Did we actually discuss him being in Earl? No, he didn't but he is He sure is Wait didn't you want... All we talked about was the Fletcher idea

2:43:09 He didn't have a particular protectorate or something? I'm just checking myself. It might be in his email, you do this and well...I'll look it up Yeah if you could just do that yeah since you'd do that Kevin Brosseau becomes Sir...hold on i'm going to put him for the knighting but I need to say Sir Harvey Lee becomes a baronet there we go then we have Kevin Brosseaux become Sir K-Town Lord of the Late Night Lab and Brian Gilbalt Become Sir Brian the miserable IT guy, so I will take out this sword This is also discussed in the Facebook group by the way John. I think it was a face really well if we use real swords course Hello Come on Kevin Rousseau

2:43:53 Step it up to the podium, both of you in support of the best podcast at university. About $1,000 or more could not be more proud to induct both of you into The Roundtable Of The Knights And The Dames and I hereby pronounce Dekay the Sir Kingtown Lord Of The Late Night Live and Sir Brian the Miserable IT Guy for you! Gentlemen, I have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay, Saki & Sushi, Root Beer & Pepperoni Pizza, Malted Barley & Hops, Hookers & Molly, Root Beer & Legos, Whiskey & Wet Wipes, Makers Marks & Mushrooms Or maybe just some good old-fashioned stock mutton and mead. And please do go to noagenination.com slash rings So Eric the shill can have everything all set up for you, and they're coming Along with the certificates and sealing wax and all the good stuff You gonna say something? No, I kind of there's no email from Nussbaum explaining his wanting to be had taken territory hmm okay Let me see Some caliphate stuff here

2:44:52 Well, I've got something if you've got nothing. Do I have one? What was this... They're drawing, um... Okay well I'm watching the Today Show and they got these people on and there's a you know the lean in is a big deal. They're trying to make it you know apparently Sandberg doesn't realize that like with most writers- Wait but she still plugging this book? Yes! Oh man Most writers you get off of one book and do another one and your sales bump up But you can't just be milking the same thing so now there are different movements You know Like A Girl and all these other things stem from this And then Lean In

2:45:29 So I'm listening to this little forum that they had on the Today Show where they're discussing what women can do because we need more women, you know. made us a 30% of the board direct and instead of actually giving women the incentive to go out there and apprentice themselves in work or could take even more education they this is what what comes out of their little discussion. This is the self-esteem, this clip is called I've got it, Self esteem moves like yeah nobody had to read it up self esteem moves on to bluffing recently the very successful and very fearsome editor of Vogue Anna Wintour revealed her secrets to success

2:46:06 And among them she says pretend to know what you're doing even if you don't play the part if it worked for Anna Wintour Maybe it can work for you essence magazine editor-in-chief Vanessa DeLuca and career expert Nicole Williams join us now ladies. Good morning good to see you Let me start with you because this seems like a dangerous proposition To pretend your smart or to pretend you're something You're not when you walk into a room I mean, there's nothing wrong with projecting confidence. With projecting an image that you know you feel presents shows your strength Shows your authority. I mean lots of people do it even everybody can have an off day sometimes and You still have to project like as if everything is really just fine, you know So I don't think that there's anything wrong with that Ma'am the gauges at critical what should I do?

2:46:58 I mean, this is like...this was like...this one I think was on Good Morning America. And then I'm listening because this is the theme for the show because it was...I think this all done on Women's Day after 23 hours. Of course. Special day. And I ended up with the next it comes up as you're listening to talk about amazing women, amazing women. And for some reason they got this amazing woman and amazing clip which followed everything to me was just like oh please. Okay but speaking of amazing women Amy. Well i'm going to be talking about some amazing shoes guys we want you to look at this fairy tale footwear right there

2:47:36 So we go on to some big discussion about making women all a bunch of bullshit artists bluffers because that's the way you get by and they go right To the most cliched thing about women shoes. These guys are shameless Yeah, oh yeah morning shows it's shameless Okay buy some by the way buy that you consumer could their female consumers who buys shoes That's all they are on the internet I forgot to do the jobs karma and just any karma for the donations. Oh, yeah jobs karma for everybody jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs Yeah don't want to you know, you don't mess with karma don't mess with karma now here so i'm downstairs

2:48:26 This is a phenomenon I have in my house. Oh, okay! Listen up people! It's a singular house phenomenon and so the volume you're going to hear this at is what I'm hearing and play the Mockingbird clip and this is what I'm hearing downstairs. I'm this is MKUltra man. No, so I am multi-mockingbird So i have a mocking bird I've always had mocking birds in the area and there's then this by the way This is if you want to play a little more than I do it after you yeah I like that You recorded yourself things about this bird? This bird has no talent He should be ashamed of himself But that's beside

2:49:16 He's got no rhythm, he's got no song. He's just doing his normal mockingbird thing and he stinks I've had plenty of mockingbirds that can do a variety of noises that are just astonishing Now this guy does have a car horn You can play that Car alarm What? This bird has a car alarm? They all do Oh, oh there we go All the mockingbirds get a couple of calls. I was not aware! Yeah, you can play in the background as I explain what this deal is. This is a recording that you put on your trading website right?

2:49:53 No, this is no that's the birds of that's a Holland thing. This is know this I'm gonna post this but I haven't yet and what it Is that there's mockingbird or any mocking bird? But this particular one in he likes to get on top of the chimney And he uses the chimney itself as a resonance vehicle to make his voice Have you considered shooting him with a BB gun now? I'm not shooting. You can't shoot mockingbirds Okay They add a nice little thing to the... You can play it in the background. I'm playing it in the background! So he gets on top of their chimney and he starts, you know again its way up there so he makes a bunch of racket and goes straight down the chimney into the house No! Yes at this volume and you go oh the mockingbird

2:50:39 And he had shot it down there. Did you light a fire? No, no, no. But I did take the recorder. I took an H2 and I stuck it in the fire box. The chat room says standing wave mockingbird. So when you're in the house, it sounds like the mocking bird is IN THE HOUSE! Got it. It's actually quite amusing to me But that's my mockingbird story. This guy has got no talent, he doesn't have any really... He's got no rhythm, he is a really piss poor mocking bird. We used to have one down when I lived in a different house that could do probably 1000 different sounds including a rain bird

2:51:20 And he sounded just like a rainbird, which is the sprinkler that goes... John, the show was going to the birds. Yeah okay enough but you should do a nice compilation of different sounds I like it when you have the car sounds and you go to the lawn watering sound You should do a compilation we can play some different sounds not just this whole long thing of him having no rhythm or talent Yeah. That's what I would suggest. I didn't expect you to play the whole thing. Well, I didn't for obvious reasons Although you could play in the background who cares? I will play us out with... It's time Charlie Rose has Kevin Spacey on the show Oh And when i heard this little exchange I realized that I have made an error in judgment and will now have to- I cannot wait to get back home I need to rewatch the episodes of Already Watched

2:52:14 and then closely evaluate all new episodes until I've finished the whole thing of House of Cards, season three which I do not like but...I now understand the reason why it sucks. Because this has Hillary Clinton's model of the world embedded into it And I think that's not so crazy to think when you listen to this exchange. Okay, let's just talk about your bromance with Bill Clinton Your bro-mance by the way John Just so he knows He has a bro-mance I heard that yes Bro-mance We talked about that? Well we've known each other for a long time and had a lot of different experiences over the years both in his first and second terms I did a great number of things For him either at The White House or for The Democratic Party Hosted a lot of events Did a lot of things privately Yeah yeah I know the private things You did a lot on the campaign

2:53:03 And I suppose that perhaps, uh...I never waited to see which way the wind was gonna blow with respect to him. I was always there and I was a true friend and never doubted him, never stopped believing in him thought he's an extraordinary man. And took him as he was? Took him as he was. Yeah. And-uh..and I think that may be part of the reason why we became close And are you close to her as well? I'm not as close to her. I just haven't spent as much time with her as I have with him, but whenever we're together, I always have a very nice time with both of them. I recently hosted an evening at the Clinton Presidential Library for their 10th anniversary of that library but also the start of the Clinton Foundation and there was

2:53:51 Someone took a photograph of the three of us on stage. Yeah, I like I tweeted this thing they said three kinds of presidents former potential and streaming Do declare mr.. Dvorak it seems that we have a shill amongst amidst us amongst us Well, we have Kevin Spacey propagating the formula. I wonder how his tale coincides with George Stephanopoulos who quit and called out Clinton Bill Clinton who he worked for as a sociopath of the worst kind? But well he's not invited to the house anymore no that's for sure

2:54:37 I think i have to go back and look at it now, see what messages are being... that's why it has to suck because now they're trying to pair up Yeah, they're using it for propaganda. Everyone says it's got lots of propagandistic messages Well, let's listen to the Lear Foundation as we play out their record on Hollywood So in the course of our work this is a two years 11-13 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different television shows... And that is what we're truly up against! Yep, that's exactly what we're up against and that's what were UP against I don't know I think uh... To The Batcave John!! As long as we get support will maintain our position of being up against that Yes and just so when they talk about

2:55:39 Giga ohm on Twitter you're on Twitter today, right? Yes. I am a good today Vox Media You know those arrogant guys They've yeah they have just so you know about how VC money goes they have taken over 100 million dollars in seven rounds of venture capital money the most recent being December 1st 2014 46 and a half million dollars If it comes up just ask if you know if they have a model that works or just keep pouring money into it I'm curious to see what yes like a yacht. Yeah, yeah, if it's if it flies floats or F's rented

2:56:22 And that's it from the Netherlands for this week. Thursday we'll be back, I am still here in the Souterrain in Rotterdam with the lovely Christina Curry thank you for your hospitality and your courage dear In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John C. DeMorak and we will talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda ISIS uses social media like a job fair. Come to the caliphate, come to the caliphate because we and our allies sent 600 tons of weapons into that civil war. You have people being vandalized kids being executed

2:57:10 executed. We'll be back one day to fight our own weapons. They were known as normal teenagers, they punish us for doing things that we take for granted. Normal teenagers! We are killing them and will continue killing ISIS terrorists who pose a threat to us. We're very good at that. Good at that. That. That. That. That. That. That. Jamila is it funny or is it important? Yet if you look around the world...we encounter upheaval and conflict And so you go in and they're blasting you, and then you put the fire out. You have to know which direction to blow it. Adios mofo.