Episode 696 · Sunday, 15 February 2015

The Key Key Thing

A new executive order on cybersecurity signals a tightening grip on Silicon Valley as global banking hacks and European protectionism reshape the digital landscape.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 696

About this episode

President Barack Obama signed a cybersecurity executive order in Silicon Valley this week, urging tech giants to form Information Sharing and Analysis Organizations. The directive, discussed alongside a Recode interview with Kara Swisher, frames government data collection as mere scooping while pressuring private firms into what critics label corporate collusion. Tensions remain high as the administration characterizes European Union privacy regulations as protectionism against American infrastructure.

Global financial security is under fire following a Kaspersky Labs report detailing a massive malware campaign targeting banks across Russia, Japan, and the United States. Meanwhile, HSBC faces scrutiny over its Swiss unit's money laundering allegations, a scandal complicated by FBI Director James Comey’s former board seat at the institution. In the legislative sphere, Congressional hearings on the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) feature testimony from the Center for a New American Security, an organization with deep ties to Boeing and the Rand Corporation. These developments coincide with a Minsk peace deal for Ukraine and a $17.5 billion IMF bailout intended to stabilize the region against Russian aggression.

Technical glitches hit the studio as a keyboard battery failure briefly halted production, leading to a discussion on the zombification of the modern workforce. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also explore the bizarre world of niche dating sites for the gluten-free, the satirical branding of ISIS on Saturday Night Live, and John Podesta’s public regret over failing to secure the disclosure of classified UFO files.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

Podcast Introduction, Flashlight and Stapler Graveyard

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 696 of the No Agenda Show from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley on February 15, 2015. The hosts engage in banter regarding a malfunctioning stapler and the recurring loss of household items like flashlights.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· gizmo nation· media assassination

00:00 It's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora And Sunday February 15th 2015 time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 6-9er Six This is no agenda world order with nothing but a compass and rubber knife. Live from FEMA Region 6 in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we have the truth about the origins of double nickels on the dime I am John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning... That is most important thing. You got the truth

00:38 You know the most important thing is why does this you know so I have this is like. I have two problems in my life Well, whoa whoa only two well to two that are better consistent throughout when I said So I was a little kid to now okay one. I lose every flashlight. I've ever owned I believe that there's a flashlight graveyard Flashlights are in it. I think we've talked about this It's right near the socks the other one as I lose all the staplers and Really? Yes, I have. I finally found one so i could staple some of these things like I get here and then this stapler which seems like a nice enough stapler made by what is on the... Is it a red one? I had one of those and lost it. The red stapler. This one we're getting rid of the stapler. You want to staple that? I'm gonna burn down the whole agenda show

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

Amazon Echo Review, Voice Recognition and Privacy Concerns

A review of the Amazon Echo, referred to as the "Amazon spy device," highlights its superior voice recognition and natural language parsing compared to Apple's Siri and Google's offerings. Concerns are raised regarding the device's constant monitoring and the potential for audio streams to be sent to Amazon's servers 24/7.

amazon echo· alexa· siri· google· voice recognition· privacy· surveillance

01:26 So this stapler doesn't work. Oh man, it doesn't know I'm sorry how does a staple even malfunction? It's so simple it's such a simple mechanism. I'm looking at it here. Doesn't make any sense Well normally what I would do is I would ask echo and Echo would answer who's echo Alexa Alexa yeah, I got my my Amazon spy device in Oh man, stapler stinks. Now the stapler's stuck to all the papers. I got my Amazon eavesdropping glasses... You bought that stupid piece of crap! Let me tell you something Have you tried it out? I've never even seen one. Oh, I see what your saying so you think i'm judgmental

02:17 No, why would I ever say that? What evidence can I base that on? I don't know. I have to say if this thing were made by Apple and they made it white or you know titanium people would be shitting themselves over it You think? I know. People, the fanboys would be crapping themselves... Well Apple blew it! They totally do. If they'd seen John still around they probably would have picked it up. John they totally blew it. I have to say this thing... Okay why don't you explain what this is that you're talking about. Okay so its a black cylindrical tube with very fancy colored light ring on top. That's pretty much all there is but it's also a speaker

03:01 And you plug it in, you set it up which is fairly simple. It sounds like something they tried to sell the Google because it sounds like a Google device already and I play a lot with You know now that I'm all-in of course I'm trying to figure out what works and how where the money is being made so Siri meh Yeah okay? It's okay But you still have to either hold down the button or say hey Siri and you have to wait for it to activate That's the thing that there is the most bothersome. I think just from User interface perspective then you have Google which okay, Google. You still even that just okay Google But yeah It's limited in what it can do this thing Oh John is first of all you don't have to wait for activation Just say Alexa and you keep on talking then it parses that really quickly

03:51 stopping music, starting music playing stuff. The thing that I like the most is adding something to a to do list which then shows up in an app on your phone and that's the thing that I really like. I'm always walking around oh I gotta get this done, I gotta do this, I gotta put this on a shopping list it really works! It's like you're from the future with this thing i'm telling if it had an Apple logo on it everyone would be crapping themselves then... And you say it from across the room Just in a normal voice and this thing figures it out. Which of course means that it's spying on me all the time, this we know so I want to see what kind of advertising advertisements or whatever start showing up Or whatever offers Amazon would be offering things Have you had it long enough to know? No no I only got back from New York yesterday

04:42 And the thing was sitting there waiting for... Did you order one or did they just send you one? No, I ordered one. It was 99 bucks for Prime members and i think i got mine much earlier than most for some reason You think it's worth 99 bucks Yeah well again it's sitting here spying on me let's make no mistake but with the things they could enhance it really is I have to say, very intriguing. It's the first voice activated system i've liked where you're not... Throughout history of devices, oh it's going to be so simple and everything is going to work perfectly. And it never is! Just the fact that I have to wake up things by giving a keyword and then wait for it to activate... This thing you just say its name and then keep going and figures out what you want. That's a key word. It has to be activated. Yeah but no, but you don't have to wait for it to say yes I'm ready You just say the name and keep going and it parses that. What does this things name again?

05:45 It's the Amazon Echo. What was the key word? Amazon echo? Alexa! Alexa turn off! It does some interesting cute things where if it's playing music and you say, what's the weather? As an example of something that I couldn't figure out any other way. Of course... Oh no! It is impossible. It does do a nice like it lowers the volume of the music and mixes the weather report over it then mixes the music back up. It's all these little things that are very intriguing. So the music coming out of this box?

06:23 The music's coming out of this box? Yeah, which is... So it has that fidelity. Did I sound pretty much like the box right there? No. It sounds okay. The Sonos is better In fact, that's what you want. You want this in the Sonos and of course you can't do things like your Spotify playlist and... Well can't you hear here? Can't you take and take- it seems to me.. ..you'd have this thing and it's got some output jacks and you hook it up to a real stereo system I wish! It doesn't have a Jack out.

07:01 And I think that's because... He has to listen to those cheesy little speakers? John, it's not cheesy little speakers. You're just being a dick It's not- Uh huh Yeah! It's not cheesy little speakers Oh they're big 12 inch- is there a 12 inch woofer involved? Ah fuck you Okay i'm sorry I brought it up Alright never mind No your- your- your saying- I'm telling you that doesn't sound that bad and you're making it sound like its cheesy shit I'm surprised! I'm being honest I'm suprised by what it can do That's all Now, okay let's go back. I'm sorry i demeaned it for not having a 12-inch woofer but let's start with this uh what does it do besides the weather? Well... Okay wait wait! I think that.. I'm not going to do a review of the box. The list is good. I'm not gonna do a review of the box. I'm just saying that I'm impressed with the voice recognition technology and parsing natural language. I'm impressed with it. That is sending

07:56 Sending your voice whatever it records and then sending it to like maybe India and somebody say oh, I know what he wants No. No, no, it's very fast inside the box No, I think that it is sending everything it hears to wherever it needs to go all the time. Okay? Don't really think that the box itself is doing any of this. I think literally there's a stream of my sound in my house going to Amazon 24-7! I don't see how else they could do it. Well, I don't see how else they could do either but then on the other hand, I don't see how they can handle all the streams I mean, I know they got a huge server farm, S3 or whatever it is. But that's a lot of bandwidth to be sucking up constantly. The Amazon Web Services is most of today's internet services run on it and this is very big... This is not just the server farm, this is huge infrastructure

08:54 I'm saying... again, I'm not gonna review this box because it's dumb. I sit there and I'm asking the fucking thing to read the weather to me. Right? I get it. It's not all that great. I do like really understanding what I want added to a To-Do list That's interesting because that proves how the voice recognition and interaction works. It is better than, Google is better than Apple Siri it's just good that's all I think this is the beginning of the end. Let me tell you but I said yesterday I said Alexa play the latest no agenda episode and I swear to God 695 started playing No yes Yes And then it picks it up through I think tune in radio

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Jacques Ellul, Technological Society and Propaganda

The discussion shifts to French sociologist Jacques Ellul and his seminal works, The Technological Society and Propaganda. The thesis explores how technocrats and technological advancement may eventually dominate human decision-making and societal structures.

jacques ellul· the technological society· propaganda· technocracy· sociology

09:36 And it understood no agenda show, it understood latest episode and its actually started playing. That was trippy man. Huh... Alright! I'm reminded of Jacques Galliol, the great French sociologist who wrote the book The Technological Society. A book I recommend to everybody along with one of his other great books called Propaganda which is very interesting. And he had this large thesis about how The Technological Society was going to kill us all for all practical purposes predated Kaczynski. And he had this how it's gonna do it and what is going to do, and how the technologists are gonna take over the world. The technocrats will determine what was good and bad for us all. He maintained this. Then some years later in his life I think he got a PC! He was after that all-in!

10:32 That was the end of him. Well, but I'm not all in but I am...I feel like i am ummm.... Yeah you're all in Really? Oh yeah Fine! I don't have a problem with it No, I'm not all-in. I'm actually canarying the coal mine If I start to choke then get out! Alright if they bring the price down to $49.99, maybe I'd try one of those things get the buy well I don't like something just listening in on me Of course not you can be you can unplug it and you can also there's a button on the device that apparently mutes it You got a wonder yeah? Really gotta wonder pretend to be muted okay already Hi well now. I'll see if I can

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

CIA Lockdown, New York Trip and Empire State Building

A brief news update mentions a lockdown at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, for unknown reasons. This leads into a personal anecdote about a recent trip to New York City, including a dining experience at the Empire Bar and Grill located within the Empire State Building.

cia· langley· empire state building· new york city· empire bar and grill

11:18 I tried plugging in here and I was going to do a little demo. Screw it, I'm not selling shit for Amazon. You're not getting paid for that! As a service to our listeners, I have to say that I think i'm one of the first people with this and before any other tech show comes out... Yeah you wanted to jump on it? By the way just got notice Uh, CIA headquarters in Langley Virginia on lockdown for an unknown reason. Right now? As we speak Huh I don't know why Don't know what's going on Well maybe they all go out to their cars and listen to the Noah Jennings show Alright boys lock it down! Crackpot and Buzzkiller are on let's goo Yeah Um So back from New York Glad i'm back from New York actually Well you had fun in New York I did but it was so cold That was abnormal You couldn't really do much

12:14 I did go to an outstanding restaurant, which was the new or relatively new The Empire Bar and Grill in the Empire State Building itself. What floor? Ground floor on the street side And it was really, it was nice because I was talking to the manager who also does the wine list or whatever. Did you give him a disc? It's her. No! Did you give her a disc? No... However, I did fill out the survey card that she said would you mind filling out this survey about our service and she did email me back and I wanted to share that with you based on- She wanted to screw ya Hi Adam, it was really great meeting you tonight. I've always been a fan

13:01 What? I like it when it starts out like that. And, um... and I'm glad you had a nice dinner and enjoyed the wine in the service! We'll do our best to work on getting more strippers but there might be a few more conversations needed before that will happen." And I'd put that on the... Little humor there. Put that on-on the cards of what can we do to improve as strippers. Strippers?! But you put that on all the cards at UCO. Of course, of course. That would improve my experience tremendously. Yeah Uh, okay. I thought you here's the way I thought you're going to read the letter with that beginning and then he said I listened to The No Agenda Show as you suggested and it's a fantastic show! Thank you for turning me on to The No Agenda Show What a great product. She'll be listening don't worry Don't worry Oh man there's so much uh going on i was i spent most of my primarily all of yesterday just Going through what seems to be a never-ending

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

Obama Cybersecurity Executive Order, Information Sharing and ISAOs

President Barack Obama signed an executive order in Silicon Valley designed to promote cybersecurity information sharing between the private sector and the government. The order encourages the formation of Information Sharing and Analysis Organizations (ISAOs) and builds upon previous directives regarding critical infrastructure resilience.

barack obama· cybersecurity· executive order 13636· jeh johnson· isao· homeland security

14:01 bevy of regulations and executive orders, and our president of Gitmo Nation. It's not at all like you'd think there was some kind of connection but now all the sudden he does an interview with Kara Schwisher or Recode And she of course is still married, but separated from the chief technology officer of the entire United States. You think there's a connection with her getting that interview and that particular piece of information? Gee do you think? But it was so... I don't know did you see this interview? Nah! I pulled a couple clips if you're interested

14:44 I would be interested, but i want to put it in context by playing a couple clips myself. Alrighty Let's start with executive order banning as he says B-Banning. I have the executive order here okay? Can't wait...I can't wait to hear this. Hackers and cyberbullies taking a big security step right in the middle of Silicon Valley Good evening, I'm Veronica de la Cruz. And I'm Ken Bastida. President Obama today signed an executive order designed to stop cyber attacks. It was the main focus of his Bay Area visit. KPIX 5's Devon Feeley says that the whole idea is to get

15:20 tech companies and the government working together. That's exactly right now increasingly people are living their lives online either their computers or the smartphones in the public just wants to feel that their information is safe and devices are secure but the president's message was that threat of cyber attacks is bigger and broader potentially affecting the economy and the country itself. Oh perfect, perfect lead-in John good work there. Thank you! Perfect Well, the executive order does not actually stop cyber crime or whatever. How can it? What are those people thinking? It's designed to stop cyber crime! Oh right... No it's not. It's designed to force the sharing between the private sector and the government before- Yes so they're not cooperating and when Obama showed up down here Google wouldn't show go to his event Yahoo wouldn't go to his event neither would Facebook because they've all been burned by the guy Right

16:14 Yeah, yeah. And Kara did ask some questions to that regard but maybe we should just take a brief look at some of the highlights of this executive order which no one will do for you except a NOA agenda show? But this is in the, so there's a couple of sections. It really it is changing old executive orders and US code I believe to safeguard the sharing part so that companies are indemnified that the government can you know under certain circumstances can force. I mean, it's too much for me even to parse all because that's all in the last section is like this crazy it's all this legal referring to stuff and you know that they're striking sections inserting words just to make everything official we don't even need a law at this point

17:05 In order to address cyber threats to public health and safety, national security and economic security of the United States... ...private companies, non-profit organizations, executive departments and agencies… …and other entities must be able to share information related to cybersecurity risks and incidents. And collaborate to respond in as close to real time as possible." That's right we have Real Time Skip Logic solutions that you can see here on the dashboard And the order builds upon the foundation established by Executive Order 13636 of February 12, 2013. That was the... we went through this one improving critical infrastructure cybersecurity and the Presidential Policy Directive 21 that's an important one that's about the critical infrastructure security and resilience all these things combined make it just unnecessary to even pass a bill in Congress I'm telling you information sharing analysis oh yeah so we're starting

18:03 ISAO, and people were tweeting about this like it was new. Like we hadn't discussed this over and over again that this was going to happen. The Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson shall strongly encourage the development and formation of information sharing and analysis organizations and that is the ISAO. ISO, ISAO membership may be drawn from the public or private sectors or consist of a combination of public and private sector organizations they may be formed as for-profit or non-profit entities." And then there's a whole bunch of languages to how you can qualify to be in ISAO as either a for profit or nonprofit entity this is going to be another bonanza John that we're not in on it's gonna be... Is A hole? Yeah the ISAO

18:53 The Secretary will in fact, in consultation with other federal entities responsible for conducting cybersecurity related activities through an open and competitive process enter into an agreement with a non-governmental organization to serve as the ISAO standards organization which shall identify a common set of voluntary standards or guidelines for the creation and functioning of ISAOs under this order. So it's a shoe-in It's pretty much good to go. We'll all be sharing or our information will be shared by the very same companies who did not attend The was it tech? What is it these? What they call at the security summit was a called that text security summit or some crap I don't know so here's Kara Swisher and she'd the way she started off just me threw up in my mouth Thank you for being here, mr President to be very excited to do an interview with recode And we have a lot of topics Do you hear what she just said?

19:51 Very excited to do an interview with Recode. Is she reading his lines or what went wrong? Yeah, I guess they switched scripts They're probably handed papers back and forth What happened there like no how did you know Recode may be excited to do it with you although recode is an entity Maybe your excited Cara Thank You for being here mr.. President very excited to do an interview with Recode And we have a lot of topics that talk about let's go We're gonna go from cyber security. What did he say? Let's go! They said let's roll He said let's go and so here she's doing something which I find to be Abhorrent as a journalist, She's going to tell the president right now with a list of all the things she's gonna talk about Why would you even do that? Well it's definitely not something Larry King would do no we're gonna go from cybersecurity your relationship with Silicon Valley privacy

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Kara Swisher Interview, Obama on Tech Collusion and Data Scooping

President Obama's interview with Kara Swisher of Recode is deconstructed, focusing on his calls for tech companies to work together, which critics argue resembles corporate collusion. Obama uses the term "scooping up" to describe intelligence community data collection while addressing the vulnerabilities of air traffic control and financial systems.

kara swisher· recode· barack obama· antitrust· nsa· data collection· collusion

18:53 The Secretary will in fact, in consultation with other federal entities responsible for conducting cybersecurity related activities through an open and competitive process enter into an agreement with a non-governmental organization to serve as the ISAO standards organization which shall identify a common set of voluntary standards or guidelines for the creation and functioning of ISAOs under this order. So it's a shoe-in It's pretty much good to go. We'll all be sharing or our information will be shared by the very same companies who did not attend The was it tech? What is it these? What they call at the security summit was a called that text security summit or some crap I don't know so here's Kara Swisher and she'd the way she started off just me threw up in my mouth Thank you for being here, mr President to be very excited to do an interview with recode And we have a lot of topics Do you hear what she just said?

19:51 Very excited to do an interview with Recode. Is she reading his lines or what went wrong? Yeah, I guess they switched scripts They're probably handed papers back and forth What happened there like no how did you know Recode may be excited to do it with you although recode is an entity Maybe your excited Cara Thank You for being here mr.. President very excited to do an interview with Recode And we have a lot of topics that talk about let's go We're gonna go from cyber security. What did he say? Let's go! They said let's roll He said let's go and so here she's doing something which I find to be Abhorrent as a journalist, She's going to tell the president right now with a list of all the things she's gonna talk about Why would you even do that? Well it's definitely not something Larry King would do no we're gonna go from cybersecurity your relationship with Silicon Valley privacy

20:42 STEM education got it all covered got it all covered. Mr.. Tech mr. Tech That is exactly how these morons think about him, mr. Tech No drama Obama, Mr. Tech." Yeah no drama... I'm telling you this is what they think of him! They really believe he understands all this crap He knows how to use a Blackberry That does come up in this Okay so now he's going to talk about the critical infrastructure that we need to be protective of and if if we harp on anything it's why are these systems connected to the internet at all? There's no necessity

21:19 You don't have to be putting up big firewalls. Just don't connect it just air gap that stuff Yeah, there's problems with people bringing in USB drives and stuff But that's up to these companies themselves but there was a couple in here that I went home really maybe he's telegraphing something which these interviews are typically used for because we need to have an event. We need something serious. Serious! She's saying it right there. We're very vulnerable as we become more digital. We're hugely vulnerable, John!

22:16 We're hugely vulnerable. Hugely, hugely. These are many ways could well we're very vulnerable as we become more digital. We've started with critical infrastructure that's an area where heavy involvement with those industries whether it's Wall Street in the financial sector utilities our air traffic control system. Whoa! Hold on a second... Air traffic control system? Really?! I put it in the book right now. Cybersecurity scare, air traffic control system... We already had the UK EADS system.

22:58 the flight planning system break or we had traffic confused for 45 minutes around the London area. Put it in the book, this is what is going to get us... Never have I heard air traffic control before on this list. I've heard... I like the way you're thinking here All of that increasingly dependent on the digital base they are working off It's called the digital base. They're working off of a digital base is that any new skip logic? It's speaking in football, you know, but he's mr.. Tech so shut up He knows what he's talking about Mr. Tech air traffic control system all of that increasingly is dependent on the digital Base that they're working off and so a lot of concentration there first

23:42 And one of the challenges is that a lot of this is private sector. The vast bulk of it is private sector." Oh, we can't have that! Megan Smith. Yeah, Denise and Denise Smith who was of course still holds Google shares I presume? There's a lot of Google in this interview. The government has to be able not only work with each individual company we've gotta be able pull those companies together so they're working together. What?!

24:23 The companies have to work together. So they're working together. It's a violation of everything that means anything to a capitalistic society Thank you We've gotta be able to pull those companies together so they're working together more effectively and one of the things that makes this such a challenge... It's called collusion, it's against the law! Yeah but you could collude on a lot of things that way Like how we store private information and how we sell it or bundle it I mean there are a lot of things wrong with that idea One of the things that makes this such a challenging problem is All you need is one week link. Oh listen to this, this is great So if you have... the companies have to work together because if you have one weak link You can have nine companies... In any defense Right! Not.. you can have nine companies that have Great protocols Authentication systems, you name it. You have one that's not doing a good job and that penetrates the entire system What? No That's not true

25:22 You have one bank that has weak security, it doesn't mean that all banks are then penetrated. He's just scaring people. Let's move on... Let me stop for a second and let's reanalyze one little factoid which is the liability thing which is one of the deals they're trying to promote. This is the number 1 part of the whole... Yeah liability so you don't have to worry and what the like lets think a little bigger than what it sounds like they're protecting these companies from I think they're protecting them from antitrust allegations. So now you can do the collusion because, oh we've got to work together on this and while we're at it let's fix prices! And let's fix employee salaries Yeah, let's fix salaries which is what they've been busted for before but that because now we're doing in the name of cybersecurity so we have liability protection This is bull crap Well yeah well its happening fast and furious my friends

26:17 Now just a nice little meme that he throws in there about our data collection. What verb could the president possibly use about massive data collection? I think he chose a nice one. As true is, and I've said this publicly so i'm not saying anything that's classified in any way... In other words- oops! I blew it somewhere here comes Our capacities to scoop up information. It became so great. Scoop it up, John! It's another fine Mr Tech term...scoop up the information with a pooper scooper? And traditionally there haven't been restraints on our intelligence community

26:59 Scooping up information outside our borders. That's the scooping thing It kind of demeans the whole idea which is the point I guess it's like ice cream parlor and non-us persons, I'll take two scoops of Metadata please and could you sprinkle some some content on top? And so what ended up happening was is that in places like Germany This had a huge impact not just on government to government relations, but suddenly all the Silicon Valley companies that are doing business there find themselves challenged. In some cases not completely sincerely because some of those countries have their own companies who want to displace ours." Now that I thought was very interesting and then I pulled out this longer quote

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

European Union Tech Protectionism, Obama Accuses Germany

President Obama characterizes European Union regulatory actions against American tech companies as commercially driven protectionism. He specifically references Germany's history with the Stasi to explain their sensitivity to privacy while asserting that U.S. companies essentially created and own the internet's infrastructure.

european union· germany· stasi· protectionism· google· microsoft

27:44 Where the president says the EU and this would be Nelly Smith, Nelly Smith Cruz's backyard who is the? EU is she still the minister of no. No she's gone She's going who was the new Minister of Digital and yeah somebody but she was the one behind The big lawsuits to build a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against Microsoft and Google And I'm sure Facebook before she left she got that started so here's the president just out and outright accusing the European Union and doing it with pretty big balls. Is more commercially driven than anything else. As I said, there are some countries like Germany given its history with the Stasi that are very sensitive to these issues. Throw in a little Nazi shit there on the Germans. Stasi? That's East Germany! That's Russia you idiot! But we might as well give that to Germany anyway. Hey Germany take this Stasi. That is quite a gaffe i feel actually. That was ridiculous. Yeah but sometimes their vendors

28:51 their service providers who can't compete with ours are essentially trying to set up some roadblocks for our companies to operate effectively there. We have owned the internet I want to say something, stop it right here and say something. I'm actually in agreement...I've always been in agreement with this theory that much of the crap going on in Europe is because they're trying to keep stuff... Yeah, protectionary measures yeah. So he's fine with it. I don't mind this even though not quite sure what he's getting at here But he's saying we own the Internet. I don't think you should be saying this No, I don't think you should be saying not in this way Not in this forum with it with the two close ties to Google specifically through lesbian sex I mean there's a lot of issues here with this with this particular these tie our companies You know have created expanded it they can compete and oftentimes what is portrayed as high-minded

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Encryption Backdoors, National Conversation and Law Enforcement

The debate over "strong encryption" versus law enforcement access is examined, with the President suggesting a national conversation is necessary. The discussion posits that the government's desire for backdoors is a response to the inability to access data during criminal investigations, despite the potential compromise of overall security.

encryption· james comey· fbi· backdoors· national security· civil liberties

29:55 positions on issues. Sometimes it's just designed to carve out some of their commercial interest in that, and that's why we have... She's never heard this theory before? It's interesting. Really? No, it's very interesting. Now the... I've never thought of such a thing! ...now the motherlode. The motherload is ultimately—and this is what Comey has been doing as director for the FBI—has been going on about… Of course he's former HSBC and you know, he has a lot of history to cover up and stuff to examine and learn. And it's about encryption, you will hear this president talk of he will speak of strong encryption which has nothing to do with the back door in encryption. And his Swisher actually tries to drag it out him tries to say that he's flip-flopped uh he'll have none of that and he is going to now put before the American public at least

30:47 the obvious choice we will have to make. And we're going to have to have, John here it is a conversation about this. We should have a national conversation. You have encrypted email shouldn't everybody have encrypted email or have their protections? Everybody should and I'm a strong believer in strong encryption. The issue... What triple DES that doesn't mean make any difference. The issue here is that partly in response to consumer demand partly in response to legitimate concerns about consumer privacy The technologies may be built to a point where when the government goes, they can't get the information. The company says sorry we just can't pull it It's so sealed and tight that even though the government has a legitimate request technologically We cannot do it. Is what they're doing wrong? Now Do you really think John that NSA cannot break someone's PGP key

31:46 within a reasonable amount of time? I think that's what they'd like us to believe. Well, the president certainly is not saying this. What is he saying? He's saying that it's no good if there's... Oh yes, so there's no good we can't do with that. Yeah! That's exactly what you'd want to do in a situation where you want everyone believing that something is safe when it's not. Here we go... No, I think they are properly responding to a market demand all of us are really concerned about making sure So what are YOU going to do? We all want to know if were using a smartphone for transactions sending messages having private conversations we don't have a bunch people compromising that process A bunch of people And so encryption

32:38 There's no scenario in which we don't want really strong encryption. This is his word, really strong encryption this is the trick to make you think you're getting something great but a backdoor makes all encryptions zero-strong The narrow question is going to be where there is a situation in which we're trying to get a specific case of a possible national security threat, is there a way of accessing it? If it turns out its not then we're really going to have to have a public debate and I think some in Silicon Valley would make the argument which is a fair argument and I get that the harms done

33:17 by having any kind of compromise to encryption are far greater than... That's an argument you used to make, that you would have made. Has something changed? No I still make it. It just changed the words a little. It is just that i am sympathetic to law enforcement because yours we were much stronger on civil war. Shut up bitch! You want this interview is over. Our law enforcement is expected to stop every plot, every attack here comes here's the wind up everybody any bomb on a plane bomb on a plane snakes on the plane bitch snakes on the plane you want that stopped don't you? The first time that attack takes place in which

34:01 It turns out that we had a lead and we couldn't follow up on it. The public's gonna demand answers, and so... You want to put it in the book? These guys are making it so obvious! This is a public conversation that we should end up having. I lean probably further in the direction of strong encryption than some do inside of law enforcement. But, I am sympathetic to law enforcement because I know the kind of pressure they're under to keep us safe and it's not as black and white as it sometimes portrayed. Now, in fairness, I think that folks who are in favor of airtight encryption

34:39 Oh, airtight. We're looking at the scenario... oh these scripts are old! This is this World War II scenario where we were intercepting everything from the Germans and everything from the Japanese and we had to do stuff like what are we going to do about this situation? Let it happen otherwise they'll know we cracked the encryption which is what we're gonna be seeing here, and that's what's gonna cause the public debate. It's gonna be why can't you guys...it's like, you know, what are we going to do about this? Well this one is not important enough it's only gonna kill a hundred people not a big deal We don't want them to know that...we gotta worry about the big one so let's..don't let them know we've cracked So in other words what I'm hearing here if I'm listening at kind of a metal level I am hearing they have cracked all encryption I would...I don't know if GPG

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Mathematics of Encryption, Elliptic Curve and Vulnerabilities

A technical aside explores the mathematical basis of encryption, specifically the use of elliptic curves and calculus. The theory is presented that encryption protocols may be compromised at the fundamental mathematical level rather than through software backdoors.

encryption· elliptic curve· calculus· truecrypt· drivecrypt· gnu privacy guard

35:29 GNU private new GNU GNU I have a feeling that may be okay That's what I use. But, I'm pretty sure that the only one...I can't remember the name of this encryption program but in the early days it was TrueCrypt is the new one. It was taken off. There was a previous thing called DriveCrypt or something that came before the latest stuff And it had on it an encryption program that was the Swiss banks and Christian encryption program those used by the Swiss banks can't remember the name of it. It was something at a funny name like smooch or something like that, and Everybody was told not to use it. Oh no you should know you shouldn't use I think somebody I think something different is being done here um it's really about the

36:28 the math. So it's not so much the encryption itself, but if you want to crack something and you know the elliptic curve... You can then apply math with some horsepower and then you can figure out what... I think it's really the formulas that is where it's at the basis of encryption — not the protocol itself or—that's probably hard—but you have to actually get into whatever calculus, the calculus. There you go. Whatever calculus is used to create the encryption I think that basic premise that's probably where it's already compromised, I think but who am I? I'm a disco... I'm podcasting. We could have a lot of podcasters. A lot of encryption guys come on and i'm sure a few of them would... Oh everyone will be there'll be a million emails about how stupid I am believe me That's well yeah that's a given But that's beside the point Well let me finish in last 20 seconds here

37:23 want to be protected from terrorists. He's saying this was actually pretty funny He's saying, hey privacy advocates. Folks who are in favor of airtight encryption also want to be protected from terrorists and so on. It's like hey you know... What? Yeah it's one is the worst thing you can say! It was like saying well you know you want to have a you know you want gun rights to adhere to the second amendment but you might get shot in the head Yeah, I mind so true. So you know it's true there are times where folks folks who see this through a civil liberties or privacy lens

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Person of Interest, TV Depictions of NSA Backdoors

The CBS show Person of Interest is cited for its depiction of government surveillance and backdoors into major tech platforms like Google, Yahoo, and Facebook. The segment highlights how popular media reinforces the narrative of total digital transparency for intelligence agencies.

person of interest· nsa· google· yahoo· facebook· television

38:05 I don't reject that there's any trade-offs involved. And in fact, there are. The safety issues. What is she writing as material? She's finishing his sentences, safe and she throws it in. He is actually rolling the prompter. She has the foot switch herself. Yes, she must! Now along with this comes at the most recent episode of Persons Of Interest. Perez' emails and financials are clean no evidence that she knew the election was fixed perhaps even she was unaware either way she's working for the wrong side

38:50 We have to find something. Have you tried the NSA? We can't hack them, but we can go to the NSA sources—the back doors I'll do Google You take Yahoo They constantly have these. I love this show you take, I'll take Google. You do Yahoo back doors now my favorite line which is about two seasons ago where the guy says well we can get the information from Facebook and then he Finch says that he oh yeah no that he said we can get anything We want from Facebook all the information from it just like it's like dossiers online He would put up a system like this as a lot I did I invented it so this makes everybody's life easier. Exactly, exactly Then...I just have one more bit here that was kind of interesting a short clip This is what we need to do in order to keep our competitive edge against all the other massive world powers read China and again it's just dim... What is the word I'm looking for?

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STEM Education, Coding for Kids and Global Competition

President Obama emphasizes the importance of STEM education and teaching children to code at an early age to maintain a competitive edge against powers like China. The hosts criticize this push as a way to create a "sweatshop of the future" for the tech industry.

stem· coding· barack obama· education· workforce· global competition

39:52 talking down, demeaning belittling the art and I will call it an art of writing software. It's an art to me it is like writing. It's like writing a novel or poetry. More like painting but yes... No, its words you know? And there are stringent ways but you can approach any problem from a million different directions Even though we've got this strong industry. We're losing on lots of ground first of all we're not we're not losing it rapidly, but what is true? Is that? Our edge our a are yeah, that's okay well she knows she's Kara Swisher And I like you I'd like this comeback

40:37 What do you say the... Even though we've got this strong industry, we're losing on lots of ground. First of all, we're not losing it rapidly but what is true is that Our lead will erode if we don't make some good choices now. Now, what should we do? STEM education huge priority homegrown We've got to have our kids home math and science and it can't just be a handful of kids It's got to be everybody everybody Everybody's gotta learn how to code everybody's gotta learn how to code early Learn how to code early why well first of all Code this is this is that's a crap way of describing

41:18 A modern art form. Everyone's got to learn how to code, everyone has to learn how to paint! Okay we'll use your words... Everyone's gotta learn how to paint at an early age! Everybody. Nobody has to learn how to code except people who want everybody! It doesn't have to be a handful of kids it's gotta be everybody. Everybody's gotta learn how to code early. I saw you were learning how to code. Do you encourage your daughters to code? No I haven't and i've said too well not as much as i would probably like although How much is enough, Mr. President? How much would you like your daughters to code? Do you want them to show you 20 lines before dinner or what is your measurement there?" They got started a little bit late. Part of what we want to do is introduce this with the ABC's and the colors." With the ABC's... What color is this Billy?! Blue! It's green you idiot!" And particularly focusing on girls participation in math science technology early is important

42:14 That's right, we want girls coding! It'll be the sweatshop of the future. Yeah that's about it...that's a sweatshop job. That's what he just turned it into. Unbelievably disgusting. Meanwhile the report came out today and this is from The Verge and I think they're completely compromised and buncha dicks who have venture capital money and wait until it runs out Banks in Russia, Japan the US and Europe have fallen victim to a massive sophisticated malware hack allowing the perpetrators to steal hundreds of millions of dollars since 2013. And this comes from Kaspersky Labs report in The New York Times

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

Global Bank Malware Hack, Kaspersky Labs Report

A report from Kaspersky Labs reveals a massive, sophisticated malware hack that has targeted banks in Russia, Japan, the U.S., and Europe since 2013. The discussion also touches on the Anthem hack and the prevalence of antiquated software in major corporate security systems.

kaspersky labs· malware· bank heist· russia· japan· anthem hack

43:03 I have, you know... Really? This is so coincidental that it comes out right now this news. It's-I'm glad we're doing all the Cyber Summit stuff because we're right on time." What a coincidence! And then with the Anthem hack got an email from one of our Knights I know someone who used to work at Blue Shield. He says the company is very out of date, runs on extremely old software and the guys in charge of system security spend most of their time trolling on LinkedIn for girls who work at the company to ask them out for coffee." Sounds right. Sounds right to me. A bunch of sysadmins going, because of course they have no budget and no money. What do they mean by old and antiquated? Is it old what? I don't know. Old stuff that you would... There's viruses that there is no cold war. I don't know. Viruses that I know of. I don't know. I have no idea

43:56 Think most of those the databases may be running on mainframe, but the access is all going to be through Windows machines ultimately I think If I were just a guess X dot 25 that was it laughs. That was yeah no I remember Remember x dot 20 someone else said how come we don't bring back novell networks? Yeah, there's a reason ever try to configure a novel token ring Well, you'd rather I was IBM with a token ring. Novel had a different topography What was it? Was it always their thing? It wasn't no is effective though hmm Anyway, we're not the anyway yes, you're right me and your right so this is um disturbing And then you know it's like where's the voice of sanity except here maybe well any only maybe oh

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Smart Home Vulnerabilities, Electrical Grid Hacking Threats

Local news reports highlight the security risks of the "Smart Home," demonstrating how hackers can easily infiltrate internet-connected thermostats and cameras. The segment warns that as more appliances connect to the internet, the potential for large-scale attacks on the electrical grid or individual privacy increases.

smart home· hacking· electrical grid· synack· leslie stahl· internet of things

44:50 We are the voice of Senate, but let's go on and let's make sure that we you know the report that we got off our local news and I'm sure most of local news around the country about the president getting it. We gotta get industry to work with the government which is also called corporatism or fascism but that's... It is a part of the fascism definition yes? Yes and will let that slide because it's so important because these terrorists are out there kill us! They're out there killing us! What do you want? What do you want? Do you want some security or privacy, I mean let's have a national conversation. So let's follow that story up with another story to kind of bring it home with another story called the Cyber Secure Smart Home. Example of the threat posed by cyber crooks new at six our Kate Kaguirre discovered it doesn't take much for hackers to get into even the smartest of homes

45:43 The next time we go to war in some far-off place, with just a click the fight could come home. I bring down the electrical grid in America. Could I bring down planes? Hey! I just heard the planes Yes. Uh huh. Very nice. Bring down the electrical grid in America could I bring down planes? The whole electrical good grid really what the whole grid will come down Oh, yeah you with a click of a mouse. Click of a mouse think everything is moving online today house temperature our Thermostats or refrigerators Everything is connected to an expanding number of services objects and appliances are connected to the internet that makes them ripe for hacking Just ask 60 minutes Leslie Stahl when a hacker took over her car

46:27 Not only that, we'll want cheaper to get cyber weapons. But really? That was the demo of the car. We've seen this 20 million times. Oh yeah it shows you! But the way she just said it was oh just ask Leslie when hackers took over her car. We'll want cheaper to get cyber weapons than build plutonium enrichment plants. Synack a security firm in Redwood City tested 16 smart home products from cameras to thermostats It took only 20 minutes to break into all but one. It turns out the security cameras were the least secure! There really hasn't been a good way for us to assess the integrity of these devices and make sure that they truly are secure, not opening up holes in our networks and our homes. Yeah... Well make no mistake this Amazon thing I've got here is recording everything i do then eventually they just go okay we heard you say this

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Online Dating Scams, Big Data and Niche Sites

The proliferation of niche online dating sites—targeting groups from farmers to the gluten-free—is discussed as an example of the "big data scam." The hosts argue that despite massive data collection, advertising algorithms remain ineffective, often serving irrelevant ads for dating services.

tinder· e-harmony· online dating· big data· advertising· niche dating

47:23 You're affiliated with Al-Qaeda. Yeah, yeah, that's what gonna happen to you! This is how the show ends... Amazon Echo Ends The Noah Genesis And the funny thing is you see it, you are from the future Yes I am Now let's go over one of a couple things about that last report How many people actually except some Silicon Valley screwballs and some guys with more money than brains have their houses hooked on the internet? Oh this is you mean with like webcams and security cams and the Nest thermostat? Yeah, a lot of people. I don't I don't, but... I have a camera outside that…I don't care if anybody looks at it because then there would just be more witnesses to somebody coming to rob me. But it's…that's all I've got the rest of the only internet stuff is my computers which are you know hooked to the internet yes but who has a…you guys says refrigerator again? Yeah Who wants to pay here's the problem I have who wants to pay the extra money

48:20 for a refrigerator hooked to the internet when all it's going to do is serve you ads on display. No, that's not true! More mayonnaise there's a deal no that's not true but it's going to know when you're out of milk and it will order it for you yeah they'll give you a coupon It is so sad. I have something else here, what? That's kind of skipping ahead... Oh yeah! I know where it is because I've been promising some singularity stuff we'll do that later. Yeah, it's so sad that you know I hooked up once to Tinder with my Facebook profile and now a member of seven or eight different get laid search for your perfect partner things and really this is all they can figure out

49:08 to market to me is more dating shit? Yeah, if you're buying this dating service your might as well buy all the dating services. In fact there's quite a few specific ones I have a clip here now that should bring it up dating firms specific specific This is showing some of the different kinds of dating firms but then they go...this was a special report that was done on PBS Oh actually play this clip This is online dating perfect Okay good for you First I gotta play a jingle Got it all covered. Mr. Tick. Ah, crap! That's our audience making the jingles while you wait. And as well... E-Harmony is big

49:49 But niche sites are trending for Jews, Christians, farmers sea captains mimes the gluten-free the incarcerated the unhappily married and of course accompanied by Mozart. Welcome to personals dot com as a fellow cat owner I know how finicky we are but no matter how finicky you're better off with more than less Personals, P-U-R-S-E-N-A-L-S. And it's all about cats but I think he rattled off and showed the websites...I didn't know there was one for mimes! Nah, I'd heard that either. It's hilarious! But is that really? Is that all they can sell me?! Is that all they can do?? Yeah you get ads for all these other sites

50:37 How pathetic is that? It's pathetic. This is the whole thing, this big data scam is a huge scam and now there are things out there like this product I use Uh, which is called a squirrel male. No, not well that helps squirrel males great no it's the thing that clicks on everything in the background so it completely confuses everything yeah yeah it's great if you turn off the systems and get ads for like its just there's no rhyme or reason. Yeah it's great. You know jewelry uh found pants. That's good! It's very good. Please

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Labor Economics, Firm-Specific Human Capital and Marriage

The economic concept of "firm-specific human capital" is applied to relationships and marriage. The theory suggests that as individuals invest time in a specific partner or company, their value becomes specialized to that entity, making "settling" a rational economic choice.

labor economics· human capital· marriage· paul oyer· settling

51:17 You want to play the other one? Well, yeah. Now here's the thing that this because there was a term that came in here and I wanted to definitely keep it on so I could because I tried to remember the term and I couldn't. And the term is firm specific human capital. I've never heard that before but I know exactly what it means just on hearing it, and I think it's an interesting economic term from the world of economics. It means that if you're working for a company for a long time, you may be vice president or something like that over time you get a lot of firm specific value because you work... And if you quit to go someplace else, you're useless! You might as well start out as the male guy but whatever the case

52:02 He talks about, this is about dating being potentially addictive if you're using online dating sites because you get so much. Oh this girl's beautiful and she's smart but look at this one she's beautiful and she's smarter! And you'll never do what he suggests which was also a suggestion in an old 30 Rock which was if you're really interested getting down to business and starting a family you have to settle. Nobody wants to hear settled but this is a very funny report that discusses this a little bit because you think you're gonna hit the jackpot eventually rudder doesn't deny it and whether your gay or straight we're constantly showing new people there might be someone better looking or who has a cooler profile or whatever it is just right around the corner always

52:52 To Paul Oyer, though, a surfeit of choice is just another search cost. For which economists have a fairly simple solution. What you need to do is you need to settle...to say I have somebody who's good enough. People hate it when we say that but its the way irrational economists would think about it But wait a minute after my first date with my now wife I knew she was the one for me I'm never falling for that bullcrap again. By the way, he never says it but this is his Valentine's gift to his wife. Oh man yeah well... Married for 30 years! The perfect one for you does not exist but

53:37 But there's a very important idea in labor economics called firm-specific human capital. And that is, as you work at a company for a longer time you have certain skills that are valuable at that company and not elsewhere. Well, you've built up something we'll call marriage specific human capital. You've developed your life around your wife such that she probably is the best match for you at this point." I gotta tell ya somethin'. Divorce is the best thing ever happened to me. Yeah, there's a lot of people that take the divorce is great line... To me it's to me I'm sorry? It's to me it's great for me because No! It's great for a lot of people

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Tinder Anecdote, Hinge and Facebook Integration

A personal story about being recognized from a Tinder profile in a local Austin health food store leads to a discussion on the privacy implications of dating apps. The app Hinge is noted for its integration with Facebook to show mutual friends, which is described as "creepy."

tinder· hinge· facebook· privacy· social discovery

54:20 But they were mixed up in the wrong relationships to begin with and firm specific wasn't playing out. Anyway, the point was is that these online dating sites which you brought up in the topic are just an endless kind of a treadmill of potential people to date Yeah, it's very strange. They didn't mention Tinder that's the gay one right? No Grindr is the gay one. Oh you're on Tinder I thought you were on the... Well and I tried out Hinge. Hinge? Hinge Now Hinge is interesting another one you have to log in. I'm the canary man I'm telling ya I'm doing this so You also have to sign with Facebook F that If you quit do you become unhinged? Ha ha ha who knows But what's cool there as you see someone and then has underneath

55:11 People who they know who are your friends on Facebook. That's creepy. Oh, that's totally creepy Yeah like well I don't want to swipe right on her because you know Fritz knows or that would suck if he knew I was on hinge It's everything if I'm on a hinge guys weird in bed They did have here last blast story I forget, I can't even tell you. But I recognize someone from Tinder the other day in a store. Oh really? What?! Yes! How much time are you spending on Tinder!? No this is before I left for New York...I haven't looked at it anymore but I forgot to tell this story

55:56 And there's this place called Diesel Foods, which is I think she was a former bodybuilder or something. And she set up this healthy food and it's all fresh made etc as one store in Austin. And they like to pick up some turkey lasagna and you throw it in the microwave and your oven is good to go. And then she showing me that said, I saw you on Tinder. It was out before I meant it. She's like, Yeah, so I said well here's my number you know in case that tinder doesn't work out for you. Oh guess what? What she never called of course not You're a creeper creep Okay, so I have a problem. I have to report so you don't start moving the show along too quickly Hmm oh but you'll have a problem with the spreadsheet

CHAPTER 17 / 46 Discussion

Technical Difficulties, Keyboard Battery Failure

The show experiences a brief interruption due to a keyboard battery failure. The hosts pause the recording to replace the batteries and discuss the lack of warning from the computer system.

technical difficulties· keyboard· batteries· production

56:51 No, I have a problem. My keyboard batteries went dead Oh... Okay Well i have to go grab a keyboard from the other side of the room Okay Do you like it? Before I can get to my mail Okay So why don't you regale the buttons with a right ball tail Uh instead of a tail I should- Go ahead and go now I'm just gonna be filling up time And then I shall play some productions that had been sent in To um The no agenda show You got to know Eric Holder Has a secret folder And he wants to walk away Selling them the guns He always likes to play the race car Whenever he is able There'll be time and I'm in glee When Barack is done All the slaves considered him The coward of the cabinet Not at all inappropriate

57:48 That's right, I was living it up at the Hotel Pennsylvania are you back? Are you plugged in you done good to go plugged in but this yeah driver problem. Yeah, yes Driver problem there you go. It's not a Mac dude Do you want to reboot and call me back? I can... No, no. I don't want to reboot. Actually what I could do which i think is the proper thing we should do is stop tape. Yeah, stop tape! Alright, take it- Stop tape everybody! Alright, stape has topped. And I should run down- Top of stapes. Get two batteries for those guys. Does your computer not warn you that batteries are on their way out?

58:32 Actually it did and on the last stop I paid no attention to it. You ignored it? Okay, I did. Tape is stopped tape is stopped. I will go right back Sorry, that's okay. This is a first yeah, I'm good to go oh Okay so while we're at that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Sel-Dvorak! And in the morning to you Adam Currie, also in the morning all ships that see boots on the ground feeding their subs in the water wondering where the recording's actually going and all the dames and knights out there... And in the morning too everyone there in the chatroom noagendastream.com good to see y'all logged in good to go and in the morning to our artist Pay P A Y came in with the album Art for episode 6 9 or 5 again it was not easy

CHAPTER 18 / 46 Discussion

Producer Donations, Insta-Slave and Zombification

The hosts acknowledge executive producers and donors, including a $1,000 "Insta-Slave" contribution. A listener's note is read regarding the "zombification of the masses" and the inappropriate nature of behavioral interview questions in the modern workplace.

value for value· donations· producers· zombification· behavioral interviews

59:21 But the pay has some nice original stuff. It was it was nice now this was the This is the democratate episode and we used the enduring with an expiration date open Yes, that's good like that a lot no agenda art generator commas where you can find all of the submissions And you can this art is great for all kinds of things also for newsletters where we use it as well We do have a few people to thank for show 69... what is it? 7? It's Swazilnof, man. It's 696! And are we doing the Valentine's list as well today? Well the Valentine's list of course we have double credits they got their mention on the first time and then they get that second credit today Good

1:00:09 And that will be on the list of, I mean we could rattle off the names. It's okay it'll be listed and they will be credited for a second producership today good and there is number people who have that listed and also pulled some other additional names off I had to go parse certain donations to find the... Oh, because they had some like $300. Now you have 214 plus 33 for a boarding pass and I also have a five dollar call out and 69-69 and it's like comes out to some amount of money. You know if that guy shows up at your door man, you'll know him immediately with that voice He's from Chicago

1:00:48 Insta-slave, $1,000. Wow! Wooo! Okay so he's... That saved us? Yeah it did actually. That's fantastic. Thank you We weren't expecting a lot today Last show Adam seemed to be concerned about the zombification of the masses There was also the Brian Williams story I think Adam is right It is human nature, as much as John would not like to admit it. This human nature to make shit up present company excluded of course. I think the process of zombification requires some more attention the underlying problem John, I just want to say that there's something very strange. My control surface is freaking out and I don't know why... Okay well let me keep reading it. Just so you know if i have to cut out then the underlying problem is most of us are meek psychophants again present company excluded yes of course stories like the one of Reggie Love seems to reinforce the narrative

1:01:49 The meek shall inherit the planet. This is as much true as the temporary embarrassed and millionaires wait Is this scripture? The meek shall inherit to inherit the planet where's this coming from I've heard this before the meek shall inherit that earth is the scripture Some of the stories being peddled by the influencers are simply mind-boggling and yet the sheep flock to Flock in cheers and up votes them all the time Stockholm syndrome probably yeah I Hear by propose a new segment another story from social media Maybe part of the tech by the way this guy typed is printed us out in six-point type nice it may be the part of the text ever where John looks at a random story and his LinkedIn account and deconstructs the story with the comments

1:02:40 or with the comments. This should be fun and provide much needed relief for the oppressed public." Another topic related to brainwashing of the masses is the behavioral interview questions, this is particularly sad as many of these questions are totally inappropriate in a work environment yet somehow they're okay during the interview process. Masses at large do not object as they need the jobs. Adios, mofos! I want to remain anonymous. Do not grant me the Insta Knight title upon receiving this donation. I would like to be nominated as The Insta Slave. This is much closer to reality and does not violate the Constitution."

CHAPTER 19 / 46 Discussion

Listener Feedback, Ferguson Coverage and Political Bias

The hosts address critical listener feedback regarding their coverage of the Ferguson protests and accusations of being "Obama bashers." They reiterate their independent stance, claiming to criticize both major political parties and the media's "racialized formulas."

ferguson· obama· political bias· value for value· projection

1:03:29 Excellent. And then he said, what happened to the deconstruction of the singularity movement? I'm going to... Did I ever promise a deconstruction or that I had some fun stuff to talk about it? People are like where's the takedown of singularity and I I got surprised. Yeah, yeah, I was under the same impression how you're gonna take it down You and I are gonna take it down this very is very simple very simple Yeah, I would do that when you feel like it. I don't care right after the segment Dame Kathy in Sir Greg is Simunic in West Chicago Illinois simonich No no simunic. I know here from her Oh okay well our last name is pronounced like Munich Germany with a sigh in front I was wrong

1:04:15 Sorry not to have donated in a while, she says. Just saying happy 2014 is over Sir Greg and I are listening live to show 694 so they're live they're listening now. Well that was too sad to hear. And probably hung up. Finally got off my butt to donate before sitting down to do my taxes just in case they take the rest of the money. Nothing witty to say today, just accept this donation for show 696. Show member! Joe finally nice haven't had those one of those in a while great thank you. Take a whoop em with the constitution karma. Okay... Whoop them with the Constitution

1:05:01 Is it the short one? Yeah, we want the short one. You've got karma. Nice! Alright, Dame Kathy and Sir Greg thank you thank you thank you Incognigro came in with 250 bucks from Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania nice incognigo Adam given that your personal life is only askew and not quite a shambles I'll take this time to let you know what an asshole and how piss poor your Ferguson coverage was Even if your inherent bias is merely a lame cove for your very Tourette's syndrome, tics and drug-related developmental delay. It's dead wrong and propagates... I don't know what he's talking about! Uh... It's dead wrong and propagates the worst of racialized formulas. Value for value compels me And short of that kiss my ass

1:05:53 By the way, you can send anyone who wants to say kiss just say that and send in 250 bucks. We're all gabs Yeah, bring it down. I'll kiss your ass no problem JCD keep up the good work bastard All right, I don't know what he's talking about Apparently the whole thing is a kind of a media circus yeah with L sharped in there It was gives it gives well This is what we call This part of the town burnt down. Let me just finish, one part of the town burned down and there's an oil pipeline nearby and we went in to look a little further into it than that then the killing of this kid that seems to be under all kinds of weird circumstances The left takes one side, the right takes another We take no sides on this And you're in Pennsylvania Incognigro I would say...

1:06:41 I've learned from a year of therapy that he is projecting. Yeah, he probably is projecting! A lot of people are projecting... Most people project. But we got one the other day which you did not- I responded guys like, The war is real, You're wrong all these brave men and women are fighting to keep us safe, you're an asshole. Okay? Then you can write back. If you go back and forth, eventually he's like oh man I'm sorry I was drunk my dog died and my wife left me...I was in a bad mood then they- I think i'm gonna email Adam because he's so funny

1:07:20 Yeah, well... yeah we do get a lot of uh- we had some other guy who said it. But the guy who never donates he says you guys are just Obama bashers! I should explain the newsletter was apart y'know it was a victim of a hoax those pictures of Obama with the selfie camera of course were part of an ad that was running on BuzzFeed because whoever the president does ads but beside the point Native Ads I might add native yes And meanwhile, this guy thinks we're just Obama. But when we do the show goes back to Bush. Yeah, it backs Bush just as much and we don't like the Democrat candidates. We don't like the Republican candidates. We don't even know what...We don't even like each other! What are you talking about? There ya go!!

1:08:06 Completely independent because the guy says you have an agenda. You got an agenda Well, this guy's got an agenda of never donating that's what I could figure out anyway onward with the situation well Thank you incognito. I buy now that we appreciate it bring your black ass over here. I'll kiss it Jeffrey Maxwell, Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania 23456 no note of any importance. Sir Stuart Rushing in Corvallis Oregon 21433 now let's see if he I have to look this to see if it has an email because that seems to me that he would have a Wife or somebody that he'd want to send the Valentine call out for this is sir Stewart Yes, sir. Stuart you have anything from now look I'll look And you would think that this would be pre-produced and I'm not in charge of this but oh yeah You know it's easier said than done Mm-hmm now. I don't see ya. I don't see anything Stuart rushing there you go

CHAPTER 20 / 46 Discussion

Amsterdam Travel Advice, Valentine's Day Karma

A donor who works as a nuclear quality assurance auditor asks for travel recommendations for a layover in Amsterdam. Other listeners send in Valentine's Day dedications and "karma" requests for their spouses.

amsterdam· nuclear quality assurance· valentine's day· ducati· karma

1:09:07 Gents, ITM, my B of A online checking account ledger claims my latest check 21433 to know agenda is being processed today. Hopefully John will find it in the El Cerrito P.O box 339 next time he empties it indeed Most of my previous donations were buzzed donations, not high enough blood alcohol content for a DUI. Which were accompanied by an email sent the same day the check was written but typically almost a week prior to the donation being mentioned on the show I decided to try something different at this time and sending the email the day that check is expected to arrive! Hopefully this will ensure that clips and karma requests being combined with the donation mentioned. Yeah, I know it's a really get a book of paper checks for future donations... ...I'll probably do that after you get my ring! My job nuclear quality assurance auditor... Huh? Nice! Will have me traveling to Europe several times this year and it looks like one of the better flight alternatives will be to fly through Amsterdam That's right send me an email I will give you the wireless details

1:10:07 I plan to spend a day or two of personal time for layovers in various cities along the way. Any recommendations for fun ways to spend my time while in Amsterdam would be greatly appreciated." Well, you would know. What day is he going? Did he mention that? No, it doesn't have the exact date here. Hit me up with an email and I'll give some thoughts on it. Adamatcurry.com As for the length of this show three hours is not too much in two hours is not enough That's why we try to hit 250...two hours and 30 minutes You guys provide much-needed respite from the insanity of the mainstream media and the brainwashing effects it has on family, friends and co-workers. I really do need to start handing out CDs of this show." Please donate my VD Valentine's Day Karma to Adam in hopes that it aids his interactions with the ladies from The Spin Class which have several favorite clips and clip combinations none seem appropriate for VD so please have Adam pick out a few that will raise his morale

1:11:10 Laters well my morale is already quite high, but happy to do it. I've got information man new shit has come to life You've got karma Onward let's see where were we oh yes sir Patrick coble in Nashville Tennessee yeah with his Ducati Ducati he has a Ducati death yeah, I think the 850 as insane insane motorcycle Sir Patrick Kobot wanted to wish my beautiful wife and best friend Sarah a happy Valentine's Day, Sarah. I have almost...I'm almost to baronet and will make it to Baron this year! Yay! Excellent thank you. And he has an LGY. Yay!!! There we go. An LGY for ya'.

1:11:59 Sierra Walker in De Pere, Wisconsin 214. Sierra Walker well I hate to be the one to do this but i have to look her up if she did send a note or he no it's what you think that is? I don't know Lookup Sierra and we get Sierra Walker So I'm hearing that fan again. You can yeah, you know I gotta do something about this move the mic first time donating via PayPal for the Valentine's deal But didn't see a place where comments would like to dedicate my donation and my wonderful husband sir Christopher Thanks Sierra nice That's very sweet wife of Sir Christopher super sweet. Yeah alright back to the spreadsheet

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

Meetup Etiquette, Pi Day and Show 700

The hosts discuss the etiquette of attending listener meetups and announce upcoming milestones, including Pi Day (March 14) and the approaching 700th episode. They encourage the "value for value" model and the distribution of show CDs.

meetup· new york city· pi day· value for value· producers

1:12:48 Onward, Sierra Walker. Mike Nichols $200 and he'll be the associate executive producer along with The Valentine's Day, if anyone... almost everybody. Now $200 for Cherry here. Please use Mike not Howard! First time donor I heard about it- John what kind of a-hole are you? I never use Howard He says, use Mike. Mike Nichols first time I heard about Adam coming to New York for a meetup and didn't feel right about attending without becoming a donor or whatever it says here he was cut off. Do you think that maybe he didn't want you to mention the other name on the show? No, he didn't say that. He says use Mike not Howard. Name comes in through PayPal as Howard Nichols

1:13:28 There's a bunch of guys that don't like the name that they use on PayPal. Not like he says keep me anonymous. Well, that's how I took it No, I didn't take it that way It's just because...I know because I've seen this before you used to say it's not my name! I get the one number and then I'll use that name as I sound like a kid in school. I think whenever it is lame PayPal not me Whenever this happens, we just got a resort his first name may have been Ben. Oh what guy named Ben dude named Ben That's it that's all I needed do names Howard Mike amazing work no jingles need and thank you Meetup didn't feel right about becoming okay So he's the producer now so he would go to the meet up at is too late Adam left New York Yeah, I'm sorry that just didn't work out

1:14:11 And that's our group, and we have a number of other people who will add to the list of producers and associate executive producers for show 696 which accounts for all the Valentine's Day call-outs. We did in advance at Valentine's Day. How many... I looked at this. It was a shorter list than I thought. Well, there's a bunch of them that are you know off and I have but I wrote them down on a sheet of paper so we'll go through them at the end So they all get put on the list and get their double producership credit.

1:15:06 Just a thought and of course we will have another donation segment thanking everybody else coming up in just a little bit here on the show. Devorac.org slash N-A Obviously, we always need everybody out there handing out CDs if you can! Propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out...We hit people in the mouth Shut Up Sleaze All right, and since this campaign is over I do want to mention that we do have show 700 coming up in three or four shows And that will be anyone who wants to donate the seven hundred in advance of show 700. Yeah We'll get another double producership and That will be in four weeks. I guess for sure shows two weeks weeks excellent We have pi day coming up which is 314 yeah? 3.1 415

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

Jason Silva, Singularity Hype and Performance Philosophy

Jason Silva, described as a "performance philosopher," is critiqued for his high-energy promotion of the Singularity. The discussion focuses on his claims regarding the convergence of biotechnology, nanotechnology, and AI, which he compares to the invention of language.

jason silva· ray kurzweil· singularity· biotechnology· nanotechnology· ai

1:16:09 So there's lots of opportunities there. Okay, so this singularity I really what happened is I came across some interesting information about information? Yes new info. New information has come to light indeed! I've got information man new shit has come to life because i've always been interested in how this works and where the money is flowing and just really what the hell is it And we know that there's a bunch of insane people. Have you ever seen this Jason Silva guy? No Oh man, so he somehow... Should I look him up as you speak Yeah well you can look at the book of knowledge in fact you could consult him Jason Silva and He's Venezuelan-American His wiki page says personality filmmaker and performance philosopher

1:17:09 He resides in Los Angeles and New York. He's bi-coastal. He has a degree in film. There he is, he looks like... Yeah. Looks like I don't know what it looks like the Atlantic describes Silva as a Timothy Leary of the viral video age so I pulled a clip from Mr. Timothy Leary of the viral video age um I think uh Adderall would be what he's on I think so this next singularity empowered by the convergence of exponentially emerging technologies like biotechnology which is manipulating the information processes of biology nanotechnology, which is to manipulate matter at the level of the atom and insert computation into matter and AI Which is to create non biological intelligence. That's not subject to the limitation of the human brain. Ah I'm hard now Thank you. I really needed that can't believe this guy

1:18:00 What is he saying? This is the kind of bullshit. He's a natural, he might as well be selling shares at some point in his life Well this is kinda what it is, this singularity business. We'll continue. The merging forces of those three things are sending us towards what seems to be another singularity As big and scale as the invention of language was Woah! This is where we're headed John big in scale as the invention of language. See, information technology is progressing so rapidly and it's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way. It's bootstrapping on its own complexity in an exponential way!

1:18:39 Oh no, no don't do this. Oh shit! So please... More computation in our smartphones today than there were in 60 million dollar supercomputers that were half a building 40 years ago. Computation is going to be occurring on scales that can fit inside our bodies I mean we're talking about molecular sized computers writing software I think I averted a crash here with that my controller was crapping it's this guy is this guy our minds and bodies should get rid of that clip It's jinxed confluence of all these things coming together over the next 25 30 years. There's gonna be trillions at times more advanced Anything that we can conjure up right now, and so we have achieved more

1:19:21 Wait for it. It's almost over in the last billion years thus far so when you look at what's coming He says we should call that a singularity because there's an appropriate metaphor To describe what happens when you go through a black hole and it's like but we don't know what's gonna happen after that We just know things are gonna get really weird Who says he said? Yeah, Jason Silva says this Why would did he speak about himself in third party? What was well these people are insane talking about Kurzweil He's talking about Kurzweil, but he is kind of weaseling in on all the action. That's what you wanted to do? Well let me stop you for a second. Okay I'm looking at Wiki page Born 1982 is a Venezuelan American television personality What television has he done? Is there a source there on the... I don't see any evidence of this Okay well if he's not then he's a filmmaker. So filmmaker what films has he done

1:20:19 Something for current TV. I believe he did it that's a film It's yeah, the film for tell you said go Vimeo Yeah Okay there you exactly He took a small cam and turn it on video and filmed himself This is this isn't just a hypester in people's also performance philosopher What is that? I think I think we're that as well no we're performance artists. Yes true He earned a degree in film and philosophy, that's a strange degree from the University of Miami in Coral Gables. He along with Max Lugavere produced and starred in a video documentary performance piece titled Textures Of Selfhood I think I was just playing this clip just to accentuate how insane hypey these people are with total just like hello 1998

CHAPTER 23 / 46 Discussion

Singularity University, Startup Accelerators and Investment

The business model of Singularity University is examined, suggesting it functions more as a conference and startup accelerator than a traditional academic institution. The hosts argue that the organization uses futuristic hype to drive investment into specific companies they have a stake in.

singularity university· jason calacanis· ray kurzweil· startup accelerator· venture capital

1:21:15 We want our internet bubble back. And this is what it is, so all of a sudden I got on Jason Calacanis' angel list probably through Tinder. I have no idea how I got on there. It wouldn't surprise me. Hey that guy... We'll take any names we can get! So, the way this works besides of course Silicon Valley companies or companies who believe in this kind of bullcrap and like that Yahoo guy with the crazy hair. Oh God I forgot about him! They send executives to Singularity University to learn about the future and of course as you can tell this guy Jason Silva clearly is from the future but what it really is

1:22:00 They, so you go to your class. You know they have a it's not like an ongoing enduring school that it's like a conference basically like a very floating crap game yeah but what they do is they present all these interesting futuristic technologies which they have invested in and this is the thing that I figured out they literally invest in everything they show And then they have this startup accelerator, this Singularity University Startup Lab Accelerator. So they're taking a piece and besides investing they're taking an actual piece of the action and are just selling it... They probably sell you a spot into their fund I would think that some people are offered that so this is nothing more than

1:22:59 taking people who are confused at best, covering them with slathering them with verbal diarrhea and then showing them a bunch of things that they can get better from I guess if they invest or eventually buy stock. Everything they show is what they invest in. This is not okay." Yeah did you know this? No it's one of those things that Now you try to avoid it, I know. But when you hear this guy and the hypester crap and people buy into this... And Kurzweil who has groupies is leading this! Please! Yeah, Kurzweil has groupies. Uh-huh. I've had Kurzweil on my Silicon Spin show a couple of times then ran into him a few other times

1:23:51 I've always thought that somewhere along the lines he seems to have been, it's like the guy if you ever watch the movie Office Space. Of course! And a guy gets hypnotized and then the hypnotist dies and then the guy is kind of in a hypnotic state after that just not paying too much attention anything just doing what he feels like in a daze? Yeah That's Kurzweil He's been hypnotized and then... And the hypnotist died. Perfect. Organ Preservation Alliance, Focus at Will, Authentize, Native-U, Edify, Matternet, PULL Approach or Pull Approach, Microless, Swift Tram, Patient Key, Field Ready, Blue Oak Resources, Genome Compiler that's actually

1:24:42 That's Don Will, I think. Evolutionary Solutions Modern Meadow Made in Space Escape Dynamics Woo! It was great All of these are in the show notes You gotta watch this guy He's high man He's just high talking about this stuff Uh...I don't know it's so far removed from what we do I know Kinda reality based deconstructions of actual news that takes place or doesn't take place but we find out one way or the other So let's talk about The Happiest Place on Earth Disneyland? No, come on. Was it not last week that once again the poll came out Denmark the happiest place on earth? Oh yeah now it's a bunch of gun-toting Westerners How is that working out Denmark are you still happy are you still really really happy? Let me give a short version I have Denmark The Clip here which is this short intro to people who aren't following this It's after a person died from wounds following a shooting at a synagogue in the Danish capital

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

Denmark Shooting, Free Speech and Self-Censorship

A shooting at a free speech event in Copenhagen, Denmark, targeting cartoonist Lars Vilks, is discussed. The event is framed as a blow to the "happiest place on earth," leading to increased fear and self-censorship across Europe.

denmark· copenhagen· lars vilks· free speech· terrorism· censorship

1:25:43 Earlier on Saturday another civilian was killed when gunmen attacked a cafe where meeting on free speech and blasphemy was taking place. RT's Peter Oliver now with the latest Anyway, they go on and on with the interviews of all kinds of people including the cartoonist apparently who they were actually after in trying to kill. Yes Lars Vils... I have a clip from him Oh play And this is this is all-telling remember Denmark happiest place on earth People are happy They got everything free health care the you know hookers everything's fully it's a great place We should be very very very jealous I can see that the consequences of this will cost me that people getting more

1:26:24 even more fear because I have a problem when I have lectures or when I try to have exhibitions that most things are cancelled because of fright and This occasion here will of course make this even worse. People will be very scared for everything that has to do with that, and I suppose it will also be a consequence in the censorship because who dares to publish anything after this happening? Yeah! That's exactly how I expect the happiest place on earth to be. People are more afraid they're fearful they're self-censoring

1:27:06 They actually had an overnight curfew. They told people to stay in their house, they couldn't even get on the streets. Yeah does anyone else see that this is whether something's real or set up or false flag or not? It doesn't matter the media immediately goes to terrorize people into thinking that oh we're screwed where next they're coming for us And this is happening all over Europe. We had the phony baloney gun guy in the Netherlands with...walked into the TV studio, you're going to see more and more of this but mainly the highlighting of it by the media to keep people very afraid and all kinds…I mean, the EU cyber laws and the EU protectionary measures and how they're going to be tracking people will be nothing compared us. Well here's a nice little story called EU goes fascist again!

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

EU Anti-Terror Measures, Airline Data and Fascism

European Union leaders agreed on new measures to fight terrorism, including sharing airline passenger data and removing extremist internet content. The hosts use statistical probability to argue that the legislative response is disproportionate to the actual risk of terror attacks for the average citizen.

european union· terrorism· airline passenger data· helle thorning-schmidt· fascism· statistics

1:27:59 The United States Senate has confirmed Ashton Carter to be the next Secretary of Defense. The vote today was 93-5 with strong backing from both parties. European Union leaders unanimously agreed today on far reaching measures to fight terror, they met in Brussels and called for removing internet content that is deemed to promote terror terrorism or extremism. EU nations will also share airline passenger data and impose tougher border controls, it's a response to last month terror attacks in France. Wow! Hello Europe how you feeling about that? Let's talk to Gucci hella Thorne Smith, Thorning Schmidt, Obama's girlfriend the selfie girlfriend

1:28:45 Yes, she runs the show over there. And who we thought actually she would become a major player in the EU didn't happen and she actually did it little statement in English which I thought was very astute. She nailed it right and it was from a press conference. She did 15 minutes all of Danish course and I can well if I were a little more drunk I probably could have understood some of it but then someone said hey can you give us a statement in English? She nails it. We feel certain now that is a politically motivated attack and thereby it is a terrorist attack we take this situation extremely seriously, seriously. We have...we are in high alarm all over the country and our main priority at this stage is to catch the perpetrators and make sure that we find them as soon as possible So we can return once again to our deserved spot at the top of the list of happy people

1:29:42 Yeah. So this, of course is all a part...it's really all the part of the same thing and the way I see it. How many people are in Europe do you think? I think there was like 400 million or something like that. Yeah, it's up there. It's more than that. Something like us maybe a little bit more. No, definitely more. A little more. I'd say four. So 400 million people and now we have incident in France which resulted in death of eight And then we had two people hurt in this. So, we have a total of 10... Well also interesting the France thing which was picked up by certainly by Netanyahu but by the conservative think tanks everyone's saying oh this is anti-Semitism anti-Semitism The administration, the Obama administration is saying it was random and really had nothing to do with anti-semitism Which would explain I guess partially why he wasn't there when they had the march

1:30:31 And maybe it's because the only way I can see the Obama administration saying this was not anti-Semitism while everyone else is saying it, is because they're responsible. And they said, no man we wanted to cause some crap but... Dr. O'Reilly Well my point is different. We have 400 million people 10 people who were killed in these incidents so we're dealing with the chances of this happening to you one in 40 million power balls got better odds than that. So one and forty million with the opportunity of 1 in 40 million people being hurt or say killed by a terrorist based on these two incidents

1:31:09 You're gonna change all the laws and crack down on the whole public. Does this make any sense to anybody except somebody who's trying to force a fascism in on the world so they can maybe push through this one-world order thing? And we have the same kind of odds here with the crap that goes on in United States Even if you dropped all...if you take the 10 years or 12 years, 15 year since 9-11 and you count all the dead from all of terrorism that took place which is all that one event. The odds of it happening to any one person with no protection is almost nil! People have no idea. Does anybody? People do not take enough math

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

AUMF Hearings, Center for a New American Security

Congressional hearings regarding the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) feature testimony from retired military officials. The hosts deconstruct the board of the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), noting ties to the Rand Corporation, Boeing, and major financial institutions.

aumf· cnas· john allen· dick armitage· rand corporation· military force

1:31:46 The statistics should be required on everybody. We wouldn't be having people panicking." How can, John? How can you fight against this when the telescreen is pumping nothing but this stuff through everyone's brain? There's no fighting that! It's beautiful. So now the President is still looking for his... there were big hearings in on Capitol Hill. Big hearings about, are we going to go ahead with this authorization for the use of military force on a broad scale that the president himself would hold this power to kill anybody who just looks like they're related to terrorism anywhere? And they brought out The Shills man! Wow! So whenever you see a former or retired guy... You gotta go to the book of knowledge and find out who he's working for

1:32:37 Lieutenant General Flynn, retired. He's all in he feels that it's absolutely necessary to give the president this authorization he pretty much says but we really have to have boots on the ground can have no restrictions but we need a you know we need some kind of strategy and he of course is a member of The Project for New American Security which is I think we've looked at this outfit before Because it's so close to what was PNAC, the Project for a New American Century. Which arguably were the guys who called...well they published the paper saying oh we should have a new Pearl Harbor maybe fly some jets into buildings and uh so this guy hold on a second where is this outfit? Project for New American Security look at who's in this thing John

1:33:33 Project for a New American Security, which is of course that's all we need. Security will solve all of us...all our problems. It's actually Center for New American Security I'm sorry. I misquoted that and in this you will see okay about CNAS the screw the executive team let's go right to the board of directors General John Allen retired. Oh, Dick Armitage! Isn't John Allen the guy who was having the affair with the girl that brought down Petraeus? Could be... I don't keep track of that We got the Rand Corporation in there. Armitage yeah Now interesting Tim Westergren from Pandora Radio is on the board What's he doing in there

1:34:25 Huh, where I don't see him on here. Down the bottom of board of directors. That's interesting right? Yeah! I wonder sometimes it could be the same investors sometimes that's possible but still it's a strange board position The advisors is even more fun Ford Motor Company we got A Dalian family, of course Chicago. Gotta have those guys in there we got more Rand's more what else do we have here? JP Morgan Chase, of course Boeing Armitage again Princeton makes so much sense and Harvard So this guy is testifying with an agenda

1:35:09 in our House of Representatives. This is... Yeah, okay so just everyone needs you need to know these things and look at it. They shouldn't be testifying at all! No. Or they should be they should be uh least somebody should bring this up they should disclaim seems to me You would think? What I do have... Oh wait, we have visiting fellows those are the guys who come and write reports. I have a breakdown for anyone who's interested. Ooh this is an interesting one the 20 YY warfare initiative. I'll look that up while you're talking. We were talking about the inherent right of self-defense of the United States and where that came from, and you tried to help me understand the word inherent once again it's Brian The Gay Crusader put together a four page document for us which is now marked up as beautifully formatted

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

UN Charter Article 51, Self-Defense and Terror Databases

The legal definition of the "inherent right of self-defense" under Article 51 of the UN Charter is analyzed in the context of modern warfare. Additionally, data from the Global Terrorism Database at the University of Maryland is cited, claiming over 15,000 attacks occurred in 2014.

united nations· article 51· self-defense· global terrorism database· isil

1:36:09 Yeah, this guy is pretty amazing. How Article 51 it's all based on article 51 of the United Nations Charter and By the technicality of article 51, we really don't have the inherent right unless we are attacked. But this has been changed... I'm gonna really condense all this which has been changed into the self-defense in response to an imminent attack and we all know what imminent means that's being broadly very broadly defined. Thirteen years from now! Same as enduring. Enduring yeah

1:36:45 But if you go back to even 2003 invasion of Iraq, which was done under the same inherent right of individual and collective self-defense. We really don't have that it's really does not apply to the wording of the charter That's just something that people can print out if you want to It's a nice little one pager and yet there's the words are bolded that you need for talking points So when you're asked by Farih Zakaria to go on explain it you can use them Also in this conversation another outfit, which I had not heard of start and start is a part of university initiative And they maintain the terror database start releases the full global terrorism database data set for 2014 we anticipate it will include over 15 thousand terrorist attacks

1:37:35 Our preliminary data from the first nine months of 2014 suggests that seven of the ten most lethal groups in 2014 were violent jihadist groups and ISIL among them conducted more terrorist attacks than any other terrorist organization. So he's gonna show 15,000 attacks in this year alone? Really? It's what he says This is a part of the University of Maryland College Park. I think everybody who takes a pot shot in the Middle East, that would be considered a terrorist attack. Yeah well we know it's...a weapon of mass destruction can be a firecracker Right! It's cherry bomb I think you need to be... It has to be at least a cherry bomb right

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

Canada Mass Shooting Plot, March 1st Predictions

Canadian authorities reportedly foiled a planned mass shooting in a public place. This leads the hosts to revisit their prediction of a significant "event" occurring around March 1st, potentially related to the ongoing push for cybersecurity legislation.

canada· mass shooting· prediction· cybersecurity· encryption

1:38:17 Canada now, also rolling out what I would think a version of the six-week cycle. They had another scare authority stopped a planned mass shooting at a public place... How can you know if it's a mass shooting if it hasn't taken place? A planned mass shooting at a public place two men and a woman arrested fourth suspect found dead don't know what happened there huh planned mass shootings planned, they're just going and doing everything they can. We knew it was gonna happen to Canada but there it is so I really

1:38:55 I don't feel good about what i'm seeing. It seems to me that we're going to see... Well, no, don't forget that we do have an event scheduled for the first of March within a week one way or the other and so will have that covered on our show and since we just predicted it, we predicted it last month sometime ago in January We'll see if something happens then you the way you have today's show foreboding numerous possibilities with the plane, the air traffic control. ATC seems like a good one that would certainly... We need to get the cyber stuff moving and look at the push man! Look at the push it's a big push right they're ready for it got the whole summit going on we know this is bad and which also by the way makes me kind of folding in my thesis that they've cracked all encryption

CHAPTER 29 / 46 Discussion

Ron Klain, Ebola Response and Political Skepticism

The departure of Ron Klain as the administration's Ebola response coordinator is noted. President Obama's statement defending the response is deconstructed, highlighting the skepticism surrounding Klain's appointment as a political operative during the 2014 midterms.

ron klain· ebola· barack obama· public health· midterm elections

1:39:51 This would be the time to do stuff because now it's almost as though, oh god there is still one more thing we haven't been able to do. Oh! We got it! We got the encryption roll out the program! Because that's what it sounds like because there's a like you just said I hectic nature Yes, we got everything all the ducks are in a row. There's nothing new coming around It's gonna You know foil any of this and we can just see what happens as create an event See what happens in to start listening into the people that we suspect are involved in This sort of thing who have an Amazon on all they'll turn everything on Amazon Echo We are listening. Get everything going... And we actually, we even cleaned up another little mess. Ron Klain got a nice little goodbye from the president. Thank you very much. Do you remember Ron Klain? No I don't! Here's the statement when I asked Ron Klain last fall to become the administration's Ebola response coordinator Oh right this is it The apprehension and even fear of Ebola in United States was at its peak right around midterm elections

1:40:50 Likewise, there was more than a little skepticism from some corners at the selection of Ron to fulfill this function. Yeah because he's a political operative and it was used to uh you know lose the elections. Last summer as- Wow okay stop stop oh fuck me! Oh shit. Overwhelming public health systems I don't know what's going on it's possessed It's fucking possessed. Possessed, stop! Stop! Why would it- I think you're uh... the pad Yeah it may be the pad. I think you're right Because the pad sounds like its dying because you pushed You obviously pushed an Ebola guy No no I didn't that started by itself

1:41:32 Coincidentally with an Ebola clip? Well, I have it lined up. I'm producing the show Yes what i am saying But im playing one clip and then another one starts firing for no reason Did you touch anything Only myself. Well, besides that but you do that all the time on the show I mean did you touch anything on the pad? No no no! I just turned it off hold on i have a backup let me plug this one in and im sorry I think the pad is... It could be Shit And I have an identical because these are Behringer they don't make them anymore so I bought another one for good reason Sorry I bought another one But its at the house So ill go get it but I can use my mobile

1:42:17 I have my mobile which is a little Korg and this should at least prove what the problem is. Hold on, wow sorry. I don't... I think you're right either that but it could be something bad like the Mac could be dying. No I doubt it. Macs never have problems Yeah okay It would be the pad Let me see let me change You know its crappy engineering on those pads isn't You know, it's a touch sensitive screen. But what you're seeing is like there's a loose connection because all the lights just start flickering and doing stuff? Yeah it sounds like a pad. Okay. Probably if you bashed the gimbal time. Let's go back and we'll try this clip again. Last summer as Ebola spread in West Africa overwhelming public health systems threatening to cross more borders I said that fighting this disease had to be more than a national security priority

1:43:18 but an example of American leadership. So we can go take over your country? After all, whenever and wherever a disaster or disease strikes the world looks to us to lead because we rocks! And because of extraordinary people he's got like people in doctors outfits and military and all kinds of cool stuff I saw yeah the ones standing behind me and many who are in the audience We have risen to the challenge. We have risen to the challenge! What did we do? Remember, there was no small amount of skepticism about our chances Especially from those No Agenda a-holes People were understandably afraid Oh I'm sorry That wasn't us You're talking about somebody else Yeah really And if we're honest some stoked those fears

1:44:12 Republicans yeah, you right Ron Klain But we believe that if we made policy based not on fear but on sound science science and good judgment America could lead an effective global response while keeping the American people safe. What? Just in case. Just in case, yeah just in cases you don't know. Like to pull them out and put them back it costs too much money to move that many people back and forth but if you look at the there was a another document they had any Ebola summit which was not really covered

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White House Ebola Summit, Tech Foundations and Rio Tinto

A White House meeting with private sector leaders regarding the Ebola epidemic is scrutinized. The list of participants includes mining giant Rio Tinto and various tech foundations, raising questions about the involvement of Silicon Valley in West African health crises.

bill & melinda gates foundation· google· facebook· rio tinto· ebola· jeffrey wright

1:45:04 And I just need to tell you about this, so they do release this information on the whitehouse.gov website President Obama today met with 13 private sector and foundation leaders who have joined the international response to end the Ebola epidemic by providing urgent assistance mobilizing public interest in action and setting the stage for recovery This is very interesting to me. I thought this was a military response, USAID response but apparently we have 13 private sector and foundation leaders the president thanked participants for contributing to the program achieved thus far and encouraged them to sustain the momentum

1:45:42 sustain the momentum. The president also urged continued vigilance to end the Ebola epidemic and shared views about the next steps to achieve a resilient and Ebola-free West Africa, which is... Ebola free won't happen! The president reiterated his commitment to the here it is they've got a title Get To Zero this they love this these guys hey we got a slogan get to zero let's look at the private sector participants ah we have Rio Tinto General Electrics Foundation, The Skull Foundation. That's the guy who did... Yeah we did Skull. Mill and Belinda Gates foundation Paul G Allen Family Foundation Oh he's gotten sucked into this. Jacqueline Fuller Google Joel Kaplan Facebook Randy Newcomb from Humanity United Ed Martinez from UPS Foundation

1:46:41 Then we have Lucy Southworth from the Larry Page Family Foundation. What is this? What is going on, these people are all so concerned with Ebola what are they doing and what have they done to help get to zero? Well I can see Rio Tinto mining company huge mining company right skull being just sleazy General Electric could be anything yeah but now we got all these kind of do-gooders coming in out of the blue For what purpose? And it's all tech. We don't see, is the Ford Foundation listed? No

1:47:17 Is Catherine D. MacArthur Foundation any of that group? No, no I don't see the... How about the Kaiser Permanente Foundation? Yeah that would make sense actually for them to be involved because they're doctors! No not there but so we have a bunch of tech companies Why why why are tech companies involved in West Africa Yes and they're helping apparently Why what have they done oh and Jeffrey Wright actor Jeffrey Wright who is he Jeffrey Wright the actor? Yeah, what does he do? Let's take a look. We've probably seen him if we just look up Jeffrey. Jeffrey Wright the actor! What the hell was HE in? Hmm let's see... HBO miniseries Angels In America

1:47:59 American film television stage actors known for his roles in Belize the HBO miniseries Angels in America So he's gonna be a spokeshole. I guess yes, sir yeah is black Well what does that have to do with it? Well if you're gonna be an Africa Wow? Tell you people what to do It's strategy okay Good good good. I did catch a little melon Belinda Gates this morning on Fareed Zakaria show and And let me see if I can find this quickly. They were at Davo, Davo. That was over? Well yeah but I think he was still skiing and this was... where did this go? It had to be a while ago. It was really strange because you had Bill sitting the furthest away from him on this is on your podium typical podium interview

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Melinda Gates on Education, Digital Tools and Charter Schools

Melinda Gates' interview on education reform is analyzed, specifically her focus on "digital tools" and "personalized learning." The hosts argue that the push for computers in classrooms has historically coincided with declining student performance and serves primarily to sell hardware.

melinda gates· education· digital tools· charter schools· personalized learning

1:48:57 And so Melinda is sitting very close and she's really answering all the questions. I just want... it was more about education but they also go into all kinds of other stuff, and why I can't... oh here it is! Here we go. Just listen to their thinking how this woman, I will call her this woman really believes that she's going to save all the poor children. What about education and technology? Where do you see its role in transforming education? Yes so today we predominantly focus on education Oh yeah, yes so. Yes so. And Bill is just sitting there rocking away and she's taking over the whole joint. Predominantly focused on education in the United States we feel like the biggest inequity is still our education system it is fundamentally broken Really? It is fundamentally broken?!

1:49:48 Is that fundamentally broken? I don't know how that works. I don't think that's true, and if anything is the worst inequity it has got to be in the justice system The fact that only a third of kids who graduate high school are really prepared to go on to college What? Graduate high school not graduate from high school where did she pick up this lingo This is an European statement This is elites, isn't this how they talk? When they graduate high school They maybe go to hospital Yes. This is fine if you live in, you know Holland they this way they would say it that's not the way Americans talk. Be prepared to go on to college You just can't have a public education system like that and have a great democracy Hold on public education system like that and have a great democracy And by the way she goes onto uh tout charter schools which really has nothing to do with it Oh yeah well there are girl in all right but listen to this key key thing in education Key key thing okay let me see The what? What did she say? The key key thing

1:50:43 It's a key that unlocks the key to education. But what we're finding is in the US getting a great teacher in front of every kid if you have the digital tools that go along with that. The digital tools, wait what can you do with the digital tools? He or she can then personalize the lesson and... Oh! We're gonna personalize the lesson! Computer learning! And then when I come home my fridge will have already ordered me milk and cookies yay because it's the internet

1:51:25 of things gonna personalize the lesson. Dream on, Melinda! It really draws me. And I think over time in the developing world, if you're a kid living in a rural area and let's say you have a good teacher up to maybe fourth grade but just don't have access to a great high school teacher in science or a college professor, if you're actually motivated kid eventually will be able to get a lot of that online and that's what I think it will be even more transformative in the rest of the world and it may be some fantastic professor in India or somebody who is a great professor in China or some teacher that you hear about in UK

1:52:05 That's when you start to get kids motivated and learning together. No, no Netflix that motivates kids in Africa She brings up, she actually says the reason the truth factor a little earlier in those sentences where she says you know you have some kid good teacher in fourth grade and then they don't have many more but they're very motivated kids to begin with. They are very motivated and yes if your motivated I could go one of these online systems and there's bunches of them Linda if I wanted get better at Photoshop for example. I can go on this system by motivated and I can learn alot

1:52:42 But if you're not motivated because you don't care, the guy could be a genius is not going to help. I just like the whole they're gonna personalize the lesson for you. Oh yeah this is just selling more machines into the schools and by the way does anyone ever notice that the decline in all this everything that stupidity of the kids and bad classes and lousy grades and declining scores and the whole thing coincides beautifully with the computer revolution almost year for year. The longer it's been in play, the more computers that go in schools the worse people are. Has anyone put that two and two together? Well, that's interesting because again I refer to the works of Theodore Kaczynski with Industrial Society and his future. I get to do at least once every show. This is exactly what happens this is exactly what happens a new meme by the way evidence-based solutions

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Nicholas Kristof, Evidence-Based Solutions Meme

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof is cited for using the phrase "evidence-based solutions" regarding social policy. The hosts identify this as a rising "meme of the month" used to silence objections to specific political agendas.

nicholas kristof· new york times· evidence-based solutions· memes· social responsibility

1:53:37 You're going to hear a lot of this. I haven't heard, yeah... I got it back. I gotta get-I gotta quick clip from Nicholas Kristof? Is he New York Times writer isn't he Kristof? He's one of the number one, he is in the top of the group of the neocons. Oh, he does op-eds probably. Yeah that could be but let me look him up so we don't have anybody thinking what he is. You'll come up I'll play him on PBS News Hour with the meme. of kids who desperately need help, who didn't do anything wrong. And it's a certain amount of social irresponsibility on the part of all of us if we don't use evidence-based solutions to try and give them a chance to get to the starting line." You're going to hear a lot about this—evidence based solutions because it kind of does away with any objection. Sorry, this is an evidence based solution?

1:54:28 What's the evidence? Well, he is a New York Times op-ed guy. Yeah well the evidence will of course be 97% of all scientists agree what your problem but it's a meme that you're going to hear a lot of I can feel this coming evidence based sanctions. No no I agree it sounds great and it sounds like people can use it. And I don't think people will pick up on it as a cliche for awhile so could last six months maybe. It'll fall off its gonna be one of those meme of the month things. We'll see Alright Do you want to talk about ISIL for a minute report? Do you want to talk about ISIL for a moment just a brief second or Russia What can we do here now? There's a lot of Russia stuff. Did you have a good did I'm sorry, but did you see the Saturday Night Live No Isis skit no oh man It was like they it's like they listened to a year's worth of no agenda and then and wrote a skit about it

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

Saturday Night Live, ISIS Shark Tank Skit

A Saturday Night Live skit featuring a "Shark Tank" parody with ISIS members is discussed. The satire focuses on the branding and social media strategies of the militant group, echoing themes previously explored on the No Agenda show.

saturday night live· snl· isis· shark tank· branding· satire

1:55:26 Maybe somebody on the staff did you want to hear some of it sure so what they did is they had shark tank And it was very funny. And Miley Cyrus was the crazy, the bitch woman and I of course did not see the show but someone sent me a link to the full clip this is just a piece of it so they're doing Shark Tank with Mark Cuban and so it's very funny but the two guys pitching are ISIS! They got their flag in there logo and they cut their AK-47s and they're pitching... The whole discussion we've always had about the branding about everything he's all in this have a listen

1:56:01 And if you get tired of it, let me know. This is- Of course we've investigated this Wow. Now that is interesting Okay, first of all it's taking a lot of courage to look you in the eye and I like that about you But here's my problem honey. I'm hearing ISIS, ISIS, ISIS but your pamphlet says ISIL You lack a unified brand It's like we wrote this John Yeah unified brands yeah Barbara's right and i don't need a pamphlet I need numbers You say you're growing fast show me For you Mr Wonderful? Of course Aloha!

1:56:52 This map shows our land holdings. We now control this entire region of unusable land! Okay, but what's so special about your Islamic State? What stopping me from going out and doing the exact same thing? It's like they combined the Silicon Valley pitch with ISIL ISIS IS You wanna hear more? Yeah a little bit Wait wait wait back up a minute How have you managed to grow this fast? Two things, Damon. A cracked social media team and good old-fashioned word of bullet! By the way, Damon. We are prepared to make your clothing brand FUBU the official retailer of the Islamic State! I'm listening. Now now now hold on just a second, Damon when numbers seem too good to be true they usually are Genocidal regimes are very tricky business I've been burned before For that reason i'm out

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Ukraine Ceasefire, IMF Bailout and Putin's 9/11 Threat

The Minsk peace deal for Ukraine is detailed, including a ceasefire and a $17.5 billion IMF bailout. A sensational report from Pravda is mentioned, claiming Vladimir Putin possesses satellite evidence that 9/11 was a controlled demolition.

ukraine· vladimir putin· imf· nicolas sarkozy· crimea· 9/11

1:57:52 No, no. It goes on and on and on Okay But it's a they could have brought a Toyota gag in that they didn't do there was no I was waiting for it All right Let's talk about Russia what's going on? They ceasefire began and there was a bit you know This is a big deal. I have a couple of kind of A rundown from, and this is on RT of course. Yeah good. What was it? Essentially where is this? Is this the RT summarize? Ceasefire plus money IMF You don't want to summarize as peace talks Oh that's it I think that's the one you're looking for right okay hold on That is six It's not the best night of my life but I do think it's a good morning The peace deal includes a cease fire starting on Sunday that was agreed upon by all sides

1:58:37 Also, the withdrawal of heavy artillery and the creation of a so-called safety zone. Another major resolution is to launch the process of a political settlement that would include constitutional reform and that would cement a special status for the Eastern Republic's which includes an amnesty for anti-government fighters, a right to use the Russian language freely and cross border cooperation with Russia. So all of that took a lot of time and effort from the leaders 16 hours to be precise The Russian foreign minister described the talks as better than super while President Poroshenko has stepped out several times to quietly use his phone. At around 4am though everyone thought it was over, no just instead fresh coffee was being wheeled in.

1:59:25 Right. Poroshenko's going in and out of the meetings, talking on the phone to who? Well we're listening... This is supposed to be one of those systems where you are the boss. Of course he's calling a noodle man in McCain! What am I supposed to do here?! Well I fear that we are going to see a true Russian invasion in eastern Ukraine within the month Did I put that in the book? Yeah, you actually should. Here's something nutty that came out today... This is truly nuts! It's an alternative conspiria but it also see i think it also was in a Washington Post, let me see who also posted this oh shoot I'm glad I saved this offline um well it started in Pravda okay well that's the truth obviously You're gonna love this

2:00:15 Apparently, there is a threat from Vladimir Putin that if things don't go the way he wants... ...he has Russian satellite evidence proving 9-11 was a controlled demolition and he's going to release this evidence to the world. I like it. Pravda, you know, Pravda is not even the Russian spokeshole anymore. It hasn't been for 25 years and it's always running stories about various towns and various aliens who have set up shop in Russia. Yes yes yes... And it's funny because actually the Directorate of Energy Weapons has mentioned here which has always been my theory

2:01:05 I'm just saying it's out there. I hope he does something, it would be kind of funny and give us more fodder It would be better than 28 pages The one thing that I thought was a little side light Sarkozy stuck his nose in to make a comment And I thought this was very interesting because its one of those things that He is obviously back in the game some way and also stooging for Russia with this commentary, but I have to say this is one of the few times that I've heard any of these politicians at that level show any signs of logic. But not all politicians share Kerry's perspective. Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy recently saying Crimea which Russia is accused of illegally annexing made its own choice and had the right to do so. Crimea has chosen Russia and we cannot blame it for doing

2:01:59 Just like I am pressed on Putin to let the Kosovo separate from Serbia. If Kosovo has the right to separate from Serbia, I don't see how we can say with the same reasoning that Crimea doesn't have the right to leave Ukraine and join Russia." You know he better not be eating any oysters this Sarkozy guy but this is not...this is not the uh.. He's not on board with the program what is he thinking? Why does he do it yeah you know he needs to sell ships and stuff but come on Wow. Newsweek says... I have no idea what that was about. Newsweek says, biggest NATO reinforcement since Cold War sets front lines against Russia. This is Newsweek which means we're just ramping it up here is the former ambassador to Russia who speaks fluent Russian Ukrainian and he was I think it might have been at the press club

CHAPTER 35 / 46 Discussion

Russian Aggression, Nuclear Arms Race and Irish Jets

A former U.S. ambassador warns that further involvement in Ukraine could spark a new nuclear arms race with Russia. Meanwhile, Ireland is reportedly seeking new fighter jets due to perceived Russian aggression, despite domestic austerity measures.

russia· nuclear weapons· ireland· ukraine· mikheil saakashvili

2:02:52 Not a well-covered event. It was something I kind of tripped across on C-SPAN 3, he thinks that we are really doing a huge disservice to the world by trying to spark whatever crap we want to spark with Russia through Ukraine. I respect and love the people in Ukraine and I do know them! I was probably the only American ambassador to the Soviet Union who could and did make speeches in Ukrainian when I went to Kiev, as well as in Russian when I was in Moscow. I do know that country. I know its literature and it's culture. I prize it. My heart goes out to the people who are going through hell in Eastern Ukraine this winter. But! I'll tell you if the United States gets further involved in what is in the minds of the Russians

2:03:46 territory which historically has been part of their country. Given the present atmosphere, I don't see how we are going to prevent another nuclear arms race and that's what scares me." Shut up slave! Yay! There was a report that there was a nuke that was set off in Ukraine? There some video...that i put it into show notes? Hmm. Yeah exactly but here- here's here's the real news We now have a brand new head of the Advisory International Council of Reforms. This is an advisory council for the president of Ukraine, guess who is heading that up? I will probably be shocked when I find out! Yes, the former prime minister of Georgia, Saakashvili

2:04:40 Our man in Georgia. Yeah, they bought the tie-eaten war starting dude to advise He's one of ours yeah. He's one of our guys one of our guys to advise And that way they won't make just the same mistake and then finally I have oh yes look for if I were to call another some kind of aggression type thing. We'd have to have something in Ireland, Ireland needs new jets there they feel that their Air Corps is the air force is just really not up to snuff so yeah... So I think probably we'll see what's for their for their what who are they battling? Who are the Irish battling well they just need jets gives a shit why well I mean why to be badass just to spend money

2:05:37 You know how it works. The country that's in disrepair, right now they're in austerity where they buying jets. They're making their people pay for water for the first time and people are upset about that yeah that's why they're going to go buy some jets which will need some NATO types thing because of Russian aggression this is all about that and by the way while we're at still talking about the Ukraine thing While George is trying to do deals meanwhile Play this clip here ceasefire plus money IMF is gonna just throw more money at Ukraine as the peace plan was announced Ukraine also got good news from the International Monetary Fund agreed to finance a new bailout deal worth 17 and a half billion dollars to shore up. The country's battered finances excellent Excellent good work

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HSBC Swiss Unit Misdeeds, James Comey Connection

HSBC's Swiss unit faces allegations of helping wealthy clients dodge taxes and launder money. The hosts highlight FBI Director James Comey's previous role on the HSBC board of directors and his history at Bridgewater Associates.

hsbc· james comey· money laundering· tax avoidance· bridgewater associates

2:06:31 Here's an interesting one too, another clip to solve out of the blue. This changes the subject a little bit but I think we're done with Russia. It does relate to our FBI guy who was HSBC... Comey Now they got nailed because they were laundering everything. You wanted to launder drug money, weapons money... It was out of control and apparently still is play the HSBC clip which shows just a few of things going on around this bank British banking giant HSBC admitted today to major misdeeds by its Swiss unit amid new disclosures of how it helped launder drug money and dodge taxes. The claims came from the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists based on leaked documents. Javon Kennedy, Independent Television News has our report

2:07:24 It's one of the world's biggest banks, but what secretive business was carried out in the snowy mountains of the Swiss Alps? Did HSBC knowingly allow its private Swiss arm to help wealthy clients conceal billions of dollars worth of income from the taxman. Data released today appears to show just that. These latest allegations cast a further shadow on HSBC, which is already facing multiple prosecutions because of its alleged tax activities around the world. Now new revelations that it deliberately colluded with clients to help them avoid tax set up bank accounts for known criminals and aggressively marketed tax avoidance schemes raise yet more questions

2:08:12 The man in charge while all this was going on was Stephen Green, a Church of England minister. He spent the majority of his working life at the bank Today's HSBC revelations cover the period 2005 to 2007 exactly when Stephen Green was in charge The Conservatives insist that all this happened on Labour's watch in a period of little or no regulation of the big banks. In a statement HSBC said, we acknowledge and are accountable for past compliance and control failures It added that the Swiss bank had not been fully integrated into HSBC allowing different cultures and standards to persist With hindsight it is clear too many small and high risk accounts were maintained

2:08:57 U.S regulators fined HSBC in 2012 for letting criminals use its branches for money laundering Wait a minute, wasn't Comey in there in 2012? I think he was He was on the board of directors wasn't he Well I don't...I'd have to look that up and I can't do that easily But why are they throwing this green guy under the bus I mean, that's what I'd like to know. I think there is more to this...there is more gonna either develop or they just threw a bunch of chum out there for journalistic sharks to go after? I'm not sure. Well let me look, I got Comey here and let me just see where he was. I am pretty sure 2012 he was well we know in 2004 what he was doing very important work of convicting Martha Stewart

2:09:41 Very important work. He's done yeah, well they got to finally put her where she deserved to be in the slammer for doing nothing Lying to an agent I don't even see HSBC on here What is that come on if they have they taken out of his wiki page already? Probably Wow oh wait that can't be home on HSBC Here we go In 2010, he became General Counsel of Bridgewater Associates. Oh that's a good one! That's what Stex always wanted... These Bridgewater Associates go like I'm going to jump back into that in early 2013 ah okay he left Bridgewater and joined the board of directors at HSBC so he may not have well was early 2013 So i think he would have had to know or as a board member you know you do have responsibility To know what's going on in the operation

2:10:39 Yeah, they knew. But the Bridgewater Associates that's a... They do government central banks as investment management firms. That is a huge one! This guy is an uber shill and he's in the hen house and no one seems to care? No nobody cares Just before we get to our segment here there's something that I've been seeing this came out last month January And it didn't get a lot of play for obvious reasons but it is a survey actually a study done by Oxford Biocronometrics and the title of it is quantifying online advertising fraud ad click bots versus humans. Oh! And I figured, uh...I have it marked up in the show notes if you're interested? Yeah this needs-if this gets played the whole thing comes to a grind except for us

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Online Advertising Fraud, Bot Click Statistics

A study by Oxford Biocronometrics reveals that between 88% and 98% of all online ad clicks are generated by bots rather than humans. The hosts discuss why mainstream tech publications are reluctant to report on this fundamental flaw in the internet's economic model.

advertising fraud· bots· google· facebook· linkedin· oxford biocronometrics

2:11:36 Yeah, well the whole internet scheme. Allow me to read the abstract Yes We present the results of research to determine the ratio of ad clicks that are human initiated against those that are initiated by automated computer programs commonly known as Ad bots The research was conducted over a seven-day period in early January 2015 using the advertising platforms of Google Yahoo LinkedIn and Facebook The results showed Are you ready for the number? that between 88 and 98% of all ad clicks were by a bot of some kind, with over 10 percent of these bots being of a highly advanced type able to mimic human behavior to an advanced extent thus requiring highly advanced behavioral modeling to detect them. 98%! Wow... Yeah how come no one's talking about this? Why would no one mention this?!

2:12:39 Yeah, gee I wonder. That is so fantastic Well the problem is that's again I don't want to harp on this and I want people out there listening to this show to realize this The problem with a lot of these covering you a lot of this stuff Is like the unwritten rule between Disney? You don't shit in your own bed as we do it So yeah, so I'm a writer for PC magazine There's a lot of stuff on there who knows maybe 98% has been click bought it Well, bot clicked. Oh no that's gotta be almost that's got to be 99.9 well whatever it is I'm not gonna write about it in the magazine I just can't do that because it's like why am I doing this? Because I need...I get paid by this magazine and I'm not there to make the magazine go away And who like these shows all these guys on these podcasts are talking about you know one thing or another yeah I mean if yeah If you call and buy the product

2:13:33 Then you can pretty much be assured that it's not illegitimate. But how many people are doing that? What's the numbers on these deals?" It seems to me that it is just like the podcast awards. Are the podcast awards now taking votes? I don't know, but we know how nominations work... Did we get nominated? I have no idea. I don't think the nominations are out, but i don't want to stray from the topic that this advertising thing... I'll bet you we have people in our audience that are involved in this scam and they get paid good money. What do you think? Don't you think that we must have guys like that?" Of course, of course! And they're going to tell us. They're going to email us... They are gonna tell what it's all about and then they are probably maybe doing a favor if you know what I mean.

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Folkmanis Puppets, Donor Thank You and USSR History

The hosts thank donors for various gifts, including a Folkmanis cat puppet and vintage USSR historical items. A "Baghdad International Airport challenge coin" is also acknowledged as part of the show's "value for value" support system.

folkmanis puppets· value for value· ussr· baghdad international airport· donations

2:14:36 There you go. Okay, we have a few people to thank for show 696 four shows away from 700 700 podcasts is pretty astonishing I did get I want to start off by mentioning and thanking Dennis and his wife toy designer Let's see what is her name? Well let me read that note you'll get it I know you guys have said don't send blankets or water just send cash But here's your own personal kitty to hug and cuddle Although we live in Pine Grove near Sutter Creek, my wife is a toy designer for Folkman's or Folkmannies F-O-L-K-M-A-N I asked. Puppets! In Emeryville just down the hill from your compound she works at home and drives to Emeryville once in awhile to talk to her bosses

2:15:24 The Mr. and Mrs. Folk Monies, the company is across from Pixar check out the folk monies dot com Roxy design Roxy's her name Roxy designs most of the wildlife some domestic critters like your kitty and Names rush Roxy in the folk man site so I get sent this worth about Didn't maybe not on here but 35 bucks a cat Which is a puppet? And the cat looks like a real cat, and I don't have a cat anymore because JC and Jesse moved to the house that they should be living in. They took the cat horrible beast with them! Now i have a fake cat it looks like a real cat sitting there... ...and I wanted to thank these people for sending me this cat It also talks by the way if you put your hand in it. Okay a shaggy dog story with no ending Well yeah you're right

2:16:18 So let's thank Gilles Paveau in Paris, France. One of our actual Paris-France dwellers. Nice. $151 and 28 cents which I will read the note because it is so rare. Long overdue donation slowly building my way to knighthood previous work job exam karma worked and now a certain project human resource... what? Certain project human resource like when I see this cut off I can't really read this part of it Do I have it here? Now, yes. I'm a certificate. Could I ask some karma plus limit and boom shaka laka for my newly expected family expanded family thanks a lot for keeping our brains brains awake duration is good mercy

2:17:03 And he says give the... Nota Bene. Jean, give a try to the Bourgogne Alligoté. I've had Bourgognes Alligoté and they don't send the good ones over here so i can get a better...I can get a Macron or some of these other lesser white burgundies that are much tastier for a lot less money. I'm gonna give him his request. You've got karma. Prime numbers. Yeah, he keeps sending us it's no it says a Fibonacci number the Nancy number I'm sorry yes for yeah, she yeah, but now cuz to get right Fibonacci numbers Golden ratio right Something sir James Briscoe and Bayshore in New York on earned $17.17

2:18:03 I'll put some karma for you at the end there. Some grade A karma, we'll get that in for ya. Everyone's a grade A karma. Yeah we'll get that. Cameron Dot and Drike Creek Louisiana $100. Well I think he missed James Briscoe James Briscoe in Bayshore, New York under $17.17 I'm pretty sure I said something maybe I was wrong Oh Noah Stephen Chipman That's who I miss you missed right one two three four he wants the great a karma got it got it got right now brisco is you know a lot and he Says he felt like a douchebag Because he hasn't donated for a while. It's okay man so put some karma at the end for you absolutely Cameron Dodd in

2:18:42 What is this? Hold on a second. There's one, oh there it is okay never mind Cameron Dodd in Dry Creek Louisiana $100 anonymous somewhere in Oklahoma $100 Zachary Stanko in Omaha Nebraska he actually sent in $50 and then he sent $50 worth of goods That's why I'm crediting him with a hundred. What kind of goods? Well, i'm gonna read this uh he uh Let me read the note Thanks for all you do that show just keeps getting better and better and better This is my second 50 donation It feels great to do so I was first inspired to donate because of adams pre-show jams back on september 18th 2014 four hours You did it for our jam. I think so yeah Oh that was when your kid your whole thing went out your whole

2:19:34 Oh, when I was down. Yeah you were down... Yeah i was down He really showcased how much love and passion you both put into your project or product Enclosed is some goodies. A 1937 pocket edition of the Constitution of the USSR for John, a Soviet printed history book on the USSR for John, vintage USSR stamps depicting the steamer ships for John and a Baghdad International Airport challenge coin for Adam. Hey nice! I like that thank you. Bingo boom shakalaka

CHAPTER 39 / 46 Discussion

International Donors, Anonymous Lesbian and Media Manipulation

Donations from Poland, Germany, and Australia are read, followed by a lengthy note from "The Anonymous Lesbian." She describes how the show's deconstruction of media narratives helped her realize her frustrations were with media manipulation rather than her own community.

poland· germany· australia· anonymous lesbian· media manipulation· brian the gay crusader

2:20:13 So I thought that was kind of interesting. Fantastic Scott Dexter, 9999 Rockford Michigan Simon Marchi Chiniak and Poland Hey Simon Simon I don't know I should be like I should look that up next time so I can try it. Simon Marchiniak Yeah Marchiniak I didn't donate at all in 2014 I cannot let that pass We got the polls listening man this is good It is good. We need more inside info when you see it. Yes, feed us some of the local lore. Cafe Gossip, that was $71. Kaylin Nistore in Northville Michigan 70. Wu Kosh in Munich München Deutschland 6960. Olaf Wolf

2:21:02 Also in Munich, this is interesting. In München Deutschland 6789 Wesley Ante in Ruston Louisiana 5214 J'aime ma femme Misty J'aime ma femme I love my wife His wife's name is Misty First time donor looking for a little shout out for the best wife in the universe J'adore Dior Luke Rayner London UK 5111 Hey he's gonna be in Austin Yeah, he wants you to buy you. He wants you to buy your coffee Oh shoot me an email I think he did no I think you you might afforded that to me. I recall it could be yeah He's gonna be in Austin you did Adams up for anything These days I'm up for anything and mark done for a wake-up text. I'll take anything You got now you should do a meet-up in Austin

2:21:53 Yeah, that's a good idea. Thomas and Pet, well you got a lot of people...the guy from Waco, Mark will come down. He'll come yeah oh everyone will show up. West Sussex UK 50 these are all $50 donors we don't have too many Chris Lewinsky in Sirwood Park, Sir Chris Stanley Hong in Radwick Randiwick New South Wales Australia Kelly Sandlin in Mountain Brooke, Alabama. Patricia Worthington I think is a dame in Miami. Brandon Savoie $50 from parts unknown Mike Westerfield in parts unknown Sir Mark Tanner and Whittier and finally Dame Melody Man in Ringgold Louisiana as long with the anonymous lesbian who sent the note

2:22:37 She said, you don't have to read this. No, you're reading these notes." Yeah we like it! But she's entertaining so I'm going to read this note. Anonymous lesbian here... Though i recently signed up for a regular PayPal donation, I felt prepared to add another check on top of that when I heard you announce in one of the last month's donation segments that you have ANOTHER anonymous lesbian support list. I must admit when I heard that I felt an acute stab of jealousy What? Another anonymous lesbian. By the way, you're THE anonymous lesbian. She's ANOTHER anonymous lesbian.

2:23:18 I don't want to share my designation, which you really don't. No! You are THE anonymous lesbian After I calmed down and realized that must be able to share all the good this show and now i'm happy to know that the lesbian demographic may turn into a new cash cow for you guys. Also feel like should explain that by identifying myself as anonymous lesbian was always a private joke to me because though I am homosexual have never been able to stand gay people I have always found other gays irksome, boring and downright irritating. I always felt guilty about having these feelings towards... Why? That's beautiful! She says she has these...she felt guilty for having this animosity until i heard on the show which you featured the Putin

2:24:11 Russia Hates Gays deconstruction by Brian the Gay Crusader. That show was one of my first episodes and it went on to become a pivotal moment in my life. In her sexuality as well, I think? All of a sudden i realized that I don't really hate the gays...I just hated being manipulated by the media! I can never thank you two enough for removing The Veil Over my eyes Wow your courage gentlemen wow that's a nice video premium anonymous Anonymous, and they said that's really well. That's what that actually kind of makes me feel good Yes, that was a very nice note And I am and please let us also give props to Brian the gay crusader yes who did all the work on that really? Yeah You got him going though so you were the motivator yeah, I keep promising him sex. That's why oh

CHAPTER 40 / 46 Discussion

Camp-Lite Trailer, Hot Pockets Sorrow Tour

Viscount Jeffrey Gerloch offers the use of a Camp-Lite trailer for an upcoming trip. The hosts discuss the features of the unit, including its slide-out, and joke about a "Hot Pockets sorrow tour."

camp-lite· airstream· burning man· hot pockets· travel

2:25:03 Well, keep holding out. I'm playing hard to get and before we finish up i do want to thank Viscount Jeffrey Gerloch who has offered me kindly in lieu of an Airstream he has available for me a Camp Light which is a beautiful trailer brand new they sent me some pictures of it Camp-Lite Trailers. How do you spell that? Let me look it up. It's the Camp-Lites, Charlie Alpha Mike Papa Lima India Tango Echo and it's the 16 DBS. Camp-Lite... 16 DBS. The 2015 model

2:25:50 What's he doing with it? Well, the plan is to use it next month. I need to be the first person to take a shit in it then it will likely sit again until Burning Man so I guess he has his Burning Man trailer It's nice. It's perfect. It's very good unit. A little small No! I think its... 16 footer Yeah but it has a slide out on this look at that slide out Oh yeah, yeah it does. Its'a good looking unit Definitely uh huh for my Hot Pockets sorrow tour. The sorrow? That's great! The tour of sorrow, two years okay that's very beautiful he said yeah he probably did I've been over to his place and he...I never saw that there but okay it's brand new this is brand new so thank you well i still need a little more time here to recollect everything oh yeah you got there's no rush

2:26:51 It'll all be good. Well, thank you very much to our donors also everyone under $50 usually done for anonymity purposes But we do have a lot of people who are on the 33 a month And I love it when we get emails from people today. I can only do five fine Thank you, but that's all we ask for really? That's all everybody can find five dollars And that really supports the work and it keeps us going, and that is highly appreciated so we can just continue moving forward. Devorak dot org slash N A Strangely I have zero birthdays today! I don't think this has happened in a long time...

CHAPTER 41 / 46 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Mickey Keck and Sir Insta-Slave

A formal knighting ceremony is held for Mickey Keck and the "Insta-Slave," both of whom donated $1,000 or more. They are inducted into the No Agenda Roundtable with the traditional list of celebratory indulgences.

knighting· value for value· mickey keck· insta-slave· roundtable

2:27:27 I didn't see any either of the reads. So why don't we just get straight to our two knightings? We have Mickey Keck and Insta Slave, who was our instant knight but he wants to be known as... Can you do your sword? Yeah hold on there you go okay all right Mickey Keck and Insta Slave come on up gentlemen both of you have contributed to the best podcast in university amount of one thousand dollars or more and we could not be more thankful thank you so much! So i hereby am happy to pronounce to Kate thee the Sir Mickey Keck and Sir Insta-Slave Knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable for you gentlemen. Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys & Chardonnay, Malt & Barley & Hops, Root Beer & Legos, Ass Cream with Bear Fillings, Girlfriend Experience & Good Bourbon, Cuban Cigars & Single Malt Scotch, Librarians & Jägerbombs, Rubinette's Women & Rosé, Geishas & Sake, Vodka & Vanilla Bonghits & Bourbon or maybe just some mutton and mead?

2:28:17 Go to noageneration.com slash rings and tweet us when you receive your ring and your sealing wax and your certificate, tweet a picture We'd love seeing it and I do have to do a karma for everybody who requested it. Do we have any f cancer? No, okay. Well good. Okay, don't drop Why are you all laughing while we're doing jobs jobs jobs and jobs? Let's vote for jobs All righty then nice okay onward And those notes are all read except for the ones that were on the email in order because they were stapled together In order of amounts You can hear it's paper to prove. It's real we finally figured out why my Cuba is so important They're gonna run a pipeline through it

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Vaccine Survey, Polio Research and Cuba HIV Strain

An NBC survey on Congressional vaccinations is criticized for misleading headlines. Other health news includes a $3 billion payout for vaccine injuries since 1990, a synthetic polio vaccine funded by the Gates Foundation, and an aggressive HIV strain in Cuba.

vaccines· nbc news· polio· bill & melinda gates foundation· cuba· hiv

2:29:13 No, Netflix is opening up service in Cuba. Oh yeah! Gotta have that. House of Cards. You got enough money as it is. Go look and see how it works over here. House of Cards. Yeah lovely. Vaccines... there's still a lot going on with that we have NBC came out this It's so annoying, this vaccine stuff. So NBC comes out with a survey and their headline...and it's really crazy when you see the there's a big graphic that shows you who didn't participate but their headline is NBC survey finds Congress is unanimous on vaccinations but then you see seven declined to answer 33

2:30:01 The magic number responded they have no kids. 121 say yes we vaccinated but 273 have no response so really you know technically NBC, you should say 38 percent of those who answered uh answered they are vaccinated. No response I mean how can you say Congress is unanimous on vaccinations? It's not okay it's not true it's a lie and then we have Let's see. Yeah, we have this is... Did we already play? I don't think we played this Senator... No, we did play this Murray of Washington about the HPV. We played that. Right. I was confused that she was a senator from Washington but she wasn't. So as all

2:30:50 pharmaceutical companies are indemnified from any kind of lawsuit if you're damaged or hurt or die from vaccination. There is a fund, and it's always in the federal register that the U.S. government pays out since 1990 $3 billion have been paid out to vaccine injured Americans. Holy crap! That's a lot right? That should get news stories somebody should look into this what vaccines are injuring them It's a cornucopia I don't think there's one in particular, necessarily. But this is just so much we're learning about vaccines apparently now an aggressive new HIV strain has been detected in Cuba which...I don't know what that means does that mean that our stuff that we've been developing won't work on them? You know the stuff you can then as long as you take the pill every day you then think that you can have unprotected sex which is not true maybe we're going to try and kill the Cubans with AIDS

2:31:48 I didn't hear that. This story has eluded me. Let me see where this was from, it's from UPI new HIV strain in some patients in Cuba appears to be much more aggressive and could develop into AIDS within three years of infection. Researchers said the progression depends if you take the drugs, you get AIDS faster I'm very, very negative on how AIDS has been handled. Researchers said progression happens so fast that treatment with anti-retroviral drugs—that's the one that has been approved now in the United States—may come too late! I'm smelling a rat here and also we have... what was this? Oh okay it was a very long story which i tried to clip and it really didn't work out. It was just too long. I do have a link in the show notes. It was from NPR

2:32:37 that they're now working on developing a synthetic version of the polio vaccine. And the reason, and it's being funded by the Milne-Belinda Gates Foundation, of course... Apparently There is polio still floating around because people received a modified version of the polio vaccine and therefore it stays in their body, and then eventually can develop into a new version. And the thinking is — I really don't know anything about this — if you make a synthetic version then you can actually turn things on and off. I think we'll be used to kill people at will but they...

CHAPTER 43 / 46 Discussion

Double Nickels Origin, No Agenda Militia Joke

The hosts clarify the origin of the "double nickels on the dime" ($55.10) donation amount, attributing it to Sir Tom the Minute Man. They also address why they discontinued the "Minuteman" title to avoid being mistaken for a real-world militia.

double nickels· sergeant fred· militia· minutemen· deconstruction

2:33:17 really do a lot more with the synthetic version. Now they're trying to make that happen, when I thought polio was done with but it's not. If there is money to be made it's not done with! And the Gates Foundation is all over it. First you got to spread it around a little bit... Alright I have this thing I have to read Tom Boushey writes also known as Sir Tom The Minute Man Knight Ah okay I just listened to the show 693 where you both stated that the double nickels on the dime donation was created by Sergeant Fred, not knowing who that is but i wanted to set the record straight. I created a 5510 donation way back in 2010 and he goes on to explain the exact thing sent the clip and so Sir Tom The Minute Man Knight is the...and I mangled his name there which means it's probably not pronounced Bushy

2:34:17 Boucher. And that's the end of that story. He is the originator, okay we got it finally good yes good he also goes on and mentioned that we drop a lot of ideas and we do yeah of course you've had a million ideas that we never followed through in or they did or they flopped which is usually like a nap for humanity. We still have the good jingles Well, that was a good initiative. We were saving carbon and we were saving the earth and saving the world. I thought it was a great initiative. Apparently nobody cares about saving carbon as much as they talk about it Or as much as we do just in general But he mentioned that the Minuteman thing we started It was like we had these Minutemen nights And you know...we put the kibosh on them I explained to him through email Because it looked like we're starting a militia or something No agenda militia! We don't need no agenda militia We don't need a no-agenda Minuteman

2:35:11 Because we don't need the government coming over and saying, what are you guys doing? Your comment to him was astute. And you said idiots don't understand the joke. Yeah, really can't understand that Joe really can have that at all. So we don't make those kinds of jokes ever. And we just deconstruct the news, they understand that. And you take it or leave it even though some of them still leave it We have way too many people that... You know how you guys are Obama haters! Or something and then they quit? And that's that. You know, we can't do anything about it Yeah yeah That's it. Obama haters I knew it No, we're not Obama bashers, you basher Which Obama? You don't know selfie pictures? I swear this is second Obama

CHAPTER 44 / 46 Discussion

John Podesta UFO Tweets, Philip Corso and Roswell

John Podesta, former counselor to the President, tweeted that his biggest failure of 2014 was not securing the disclosure of UFO files. This prompts a recommendation for Philip Corso's book, The Day After Roswell, regarding the history of alien technology.

john podesta· ufo· x-files· philip corso· roswell· disclosure

2:36:02 It happens not once but twice in a week. You will recall John Podesta, counselor to the president? John. Yeah. John Podesta. He tweeted something very interesting. He tweets! He tweets... he scores then he tweeted here we go Finally, my biggest failure of 2014. He's left public service Once again not securing the hashtag disclosure of the UFO files Hashtag The Truth is Still Out There Thank you! What? Yeah thank you very much And...the Washington Post picked this up

2:36:59 And, yeah. So that was his biggest regret is that he didn't open up the X-Files and... Is he just chiding the audience or is it one of his assistants tweeting for him? Probably. Or what? No, The Washington Post checked with him and what he famously did is he rejected a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests. And so that's now his biggest regret. Yeah, big talk now you're out dude! Well that reminds me people should if they want to get into this sort of thinking They should go read the John Corso. I said John cord the Philip Corso book mm-hmm and See what you think it's called the day after Roswell It's a very interesting reading by a young official now You like that book have you ever read that book no, but I have to read it now. Oh, you'd love that What's it called again? The Day After Roswell okay available on Amazon yes, and who wrote it oh

2:37:54 Corso, Philip Corso who used to be one of the Army executives in the army. High up in the army. Got it got it nice And that'll probably explain everything. I have only a couple more things, but something i do have to ask you actually... Not a lot of people well-I think it's now just now getting into the news but I feel this is important. Season to date it's estimated that this has impacted the California citrus industry This is about the labor dispute at the ports on the west coast

CHAPTER 45 / 46 Discussion

West Coast Port Strike, Citrus Exports and Joe Biden

A labor dispute at 29 West Coast ports is causing a massive backlog of container ships, severely impacting California's citrus exports. The hosts also briefly mention a gaffe by Joe Biden involving the term "butt buddy," which they dismiss as regional slang.

port strike· california· citrus· joe biden· labor dispute

2:38:31 which has been going on apparently for a long time and it's not covered I have the doc strike shut down little background or here you can play it let me do the background good idea and then we'll see if my clip is appropriate work has halted at 29 west coast ports in an escalating labor dispute. In southern California container ships queued up outside the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles today. Terminal operators said they locked out dock workers in answer to a union slowdown. The lockout runs through Monday Now, what I caught in all of this and I want to play my report. It seems like... Well let's listen to my report and then we'll evaluate it. Dusty Ference is Director of Grower Services at the industry trade group California Citrus Mutual.

2:39:28 He says all this is coming at a really bad time because this is the industry's peak export season ahead of the Chinese New Year. We're getting reports now that not including trucking time, these containers are sitting on the docks for 10 days and in some cases longer Some industries are now turning to air to ship freight. Some of Ferenc'es growers are trucking cargo down to the port of Houston But going the long way through the Panama Canal is expensive and not always practical. So mostly, they're just waiting and hoping things get resolved quick. The Pacific Maritime Association's president has warned of an all-out quote meltdown on West Coast ports if the union doesn't accept what he calls its generous contract offer

2:40:10 So, is this only for exports or imports as well? That's what... No. Everything stopped and the ports are stopped. It's costing California's economy $2 billion a week or maybe a day I don't know how much it's costing on a weekly daily basis but it's 2 billions involved and whatever the case it's a disaster Well no one will care until the new iPhones don't come in that's when people get all free or the iWatch Apple Watch whatever it is No one will care. Because they couldn't get there. They have a bunch of new TVs coming into Costco and they're all jammed up because of this strike." He says, nobody's even talking about the strike I said yeah i know it's not even in the news And he says why do you think that is? And I says because they don't want to give anybody any ideas if you haven't been following the news recently They try to keep this out of the news because some other guys might decide to strike and then I gave him a disc Oh nice! Do you just carry these in your shirt pocket

2:41:21 They fit in a pocket quite easily. Joe Biden had, this was news and I think it's so stupid because this has clearly been highlighted by people who have never been in New Jersey or Pennsylvania You know, I'm sure you heard this Joe Biden thing. Neil Smith and old bud buddy are you here Neil? Neil! I miss you man And my butt buddy Neal everyone's like he said butt buddy Yeah i've heard about that clip. Morons. That is what we- in New Jersey and Pennsylvania then we talk about bud buddies but it's not a homosexual thing My god how childish are all these people He said butt buddy! Jeez

CHAPTER 46 / 46 Discussion

Climate Change vs. Terrorism, Show Outro and Sign-off

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest asserts that the President views climate change as a greater threat to Americans' daily lives than terrorism. The show concludes with a preview of an upcoming segment on whistleblower John Kiriakou and a final sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

climate change· terrorism· josh earnest· john kiriakou· twit· sign-off

2:42:06 I'm the first guy to make a gay joke, but no this is dumb. You are the first guy to make it gay joke And as you were saying earlier, and this will wrap it for me. People in general have no idea how to gauge risk and what is truly dangerous. You mentioned that there's a one in 40 more chance of winning Powerball than to be killed by a terrorist attack even though there are apparently 15 thousand of them every single year. Here is Josh Earnest spokeshole for the White House who can tell you that there are things way more dangerous than terrorism. gander, I guess. Driving a car? I was asked if the media overstates the level of alarm people should have about terrorism as opposed to longer-term problems of climate change and epidemic disease He says absolutely So let me just clarify is that president saying as he seems to be implying here That the threat of climate change is greater than the threat of terrorism I think John with the point that the president is making is that there are many more people on an annual basis

2:43:10 who have to confront the impact, the direct impact on their lives of climate change or on the spread of a disease than on terrorism. So the answer is yes, the President thinks climate change is a greater threat than terror. I think the point that the President is making is that when you're talking about the direct daily impact of these kinds of challenges on the daily lives of Americans living in this country, that direct impact is more...that more people are directly affected by those things than by terrorism. So climate change is more of a clear and present danger to the United States than terrorism? Well, I think even the Department of Defense has spoken to this significant threat that climate change poses to our national security interests. We're all going to die. Yeah! There you go good work good work yeah good clip um since i see it in your list i don't know if you want to play anything but he is coming to Austin and i saw it in the Guzman no no better than that i didn't know he was doing a tour

2:44:15 But he is coming to Austin, and he shall be speaking at the Paramount Theater. Kirakou! Oh yeah... Well I have a little more about that that's gonna take up too much time. I want to bring that into the next show Okay And we'll talk about him He is you know so-called whistleblower which never was really and he doesn't really fall into this category Oh sorry I'm thinking of the wrong guy I'm sorry my mistake Sorry, this is the whistleblower. I'm thinking of the... Binnie? No the stupid scientist guy! The Asian sci- what's his name isn't it? His name Kraku what's his name? Bill Nye? No no the other douche Oh that guy with a white hair yeah that guy oh that guy i'm sorry i misread you know this is funny he has an asian sounding name but i do want to talk a little bit about him since he's out of jail

2:45:06 Oh, I didn't know he just came out. Yeah he's an about and doing interviews mostly with the interviewer I have here is on our team. And I want to talk about it because there's a lot of screwiness about this particular guy because these supposedly a whistleblower when he's not really well... He gave information to the Fox journalist correct? No, this is I will discuss it in great detail when we have a little more time which will be on Thursday Okay And you may want to do a little research and we can go back and forth on this. Okay? I did send a couple of show notes Items which involve him you might want to put those into next one because I had him in for today But all okay now take them out ok well well well mr DC Vorak

2:45:52 Hey, and you're on Twit today right? I'm on Twit. I invite everyone to come up and sit in the audience Are you gonna be there live yeah? Be up in the end it in the pedal of sweet beautiful day to take a drive up sweet sweet sweet nice all right well I'm gonna go figure out if I can I guess it is so he hooked up the Mobile controller and worked for the rest of the show so like you're right. I guess that Berenger just crapped out And there you have it in a nutshell Sorry about all that Alright everybody, Thursday we will be back. Please remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA It is through your graces and your support with information propagating the formula And of course with your financial support that this show remains yours remains What you really want it to be You're in charge not the product

2:46:44 Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the crackpot condo in the downtown Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I am John C. DeVore. We'll be back Thursday right here on NO Agenda. Climate change is real! It's real! It was worth it...it was worth it. Up at the Hotel Pennsylvania

2:47:27 Mr. Check Thank you for taking the time to listen adios mofo The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N A