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00:00 It's the same outfits, it's the same costumes. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. At Sunday September 21st 2014 time for your Good Monation Media Assassination Episode 654! This is no agenda high above the city by the bay breaking the two guardians of reality in the same FEMA region rule. In downtown San Francisco, in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from not downtown San Francisco northern Silicon Valley I am John C Devorah. No, that was the reason why we started late. No with its two guardians of reality in the same FEMA region simultaneously It's like it's like everybody being on Air Force One you can't have this this is not a good idea Yeah somebody nuked to the area this show would be done So I started off this morning and I'm so proud of my kit You know I've got it down to a science I could set it up and break it down in 10 minutes

01:04 Okay, a whole studio which sounds exactly the same whether I'm it is the same studio whether I'm at home Yeah, or whether. I'm on the road you always say this but in a 10-minute thing never plays out It was perfect I had everything before I went to sleep last night had it all set up checked everything check check double check and I am now I have The final piece which is this netgear router so I can connect to the hotel network And then connect all my devices on my own personal network So nothing should be able to go wrong And this morning, and the main reason for this is my first generation iPad has to talk to the MacBook Air in order to fire off the jingle. So when you say something that warrants a buzzer I need be able to hit it which is why have this very tactile thing. A reason to play the buzzer without cause? Well this is true

01:53 And I couldn't get it to connect, and was connecting to the hotel network. It looked like it was connecting to the hotel network... ...I did not understand what's going on until I figured out that I had put my Macs to sleep. I opened them up and they connected to my MiFi which was still running in my pants pocket. Let's talk a little bit about that What is that? The Mifi? Yeah! I got one of these Freedom Pop things If I'm really into jamming- Where did you get it?! I've had for couple months Where do you get them from? Freedompop.com Freedom pop yeah, it's I think it's 10 bucks a month or something Yeah, I only use it if I really am somewhere where I might need to get network access on my iPod touch since I don't have a smartphone

02:40 And I've used it last night. I showed it to you in the restaurant Yeah, no if that was a cute little device is very pretty But but everything was connected to that and when you and I were on Skype this morning Well, I'm trying to figure out why can't connect my iPad My iPad was on the on my internal Netgear network, but I was talking to you over the over the MiFi Which was doing phenomenally well Oh, that was your problem. Interesting little thing you got to turn things off once in a while well Let's go what is this let's go back to this device so it's a little bitty thing It looks like a compact for makeup smaller I think very small bigger than

03:19 If you took a lipstick tube and smashed it, it'd be about that big. And you keep in your pocket and what does it do? It goes and looks for...it gets you an LTE or an edge or 4G or 3G? What does it do for you? How do you get Wi-Fi out of...? What is it hooking to? It connects to the cell phone network. Okay. I have the cheap version because I barely need it and it connects 4G, not LTE but 4G. And it creates...you know and I have a network there. Yeah makes a hotspot exactly. You actually lit up the whole restaurant? Well it's not like I'm using radar to light up enemy aircraft but yeah, yeah I lit up the whole restaurant. It's no different than having you know people have all these all the time!

04:07 I thought you had one of these. You set up your laptop, your smartphone to do that? No, I just tether off my phone. It's the same thing. Yeah but there is no phone involved. You're just basically buying a remote tether... Yeah for whenever I need it and then I can turn it off shut it down and then I have my goal of... That's 10 bucks a month. ...I like to separate my data from my network thats what I like to do. Unlimited data for ten bucks a month. Its not unlimited. It's a limit, but it looks like a handy little device. I don't know if I'd want to Wi-Fi Transmitter in in my pants next to my nuts like you had it It was it was not an extra But this it was in my jacket pocket which is why I forgot all about it wasn't next of mine nuts Was next to my heart where belongs well that's even worse

04:57 Anyway, okay. So you had to think running this morning? It was confused what confused everything yeah Okay it was he was handing out a network of one six one nine two one six eight one dot foo And and I couldn't figure out why my iPad was connecting to 16816 8 dot foo But that was corrected that was just confusing is too many devices working now. There's too many devices Yeah You should do ya really so I'm here in San Francisco Why oh Well, two reasons. One was to... I used the pod show 10-year reunion as an excuse to really come and see you. And I am disappointed by the whole trip. Why? Well… You didn't—you were disappointed in me? No not you specifically!

05:45 So we did the reunion it was at this bar called dog patch Dog patch saloon and it was cute. You know these are people who we work with ten years ago We started pod show, and I mean It wasn't I see you know the some of the original people there who all and I think except for Michael Butler everybody looks kind of old Yeah well they're older yeah, but do we look that way? You don't look you don't look like you've changed much in 10 years um I started old. Hey! Well this is true. Didn't hear you. I did notice back of your head is getting a little thin on the hair in the shoulder part. I gotta get back on the Rogaine for that part, yeah. Have you ever used the Rogaine for that? Oh yeah, yeah. You gotta do something otherwise you're gonna get a bald spot back there. It's kind of cute though because it's almost like a baby's head at the back, soft kind of flashy...

04:57 Anyway, okay. So you had to think running this morning? It was confused what confused everything yeah Okay it was he was handing out a network of one six one nine two one six eight one dot foo And and I couldn't figure out why my iPad was connecting to 16816 8 dot foo But that was corrected that was just confusing is too many devices working now. There's too many devices Yeah You should do ya really so I'm here in San Francisco Why oh Well, two reasons. One was to... I used the pod show 10-year reunion as an excuse to really come and see you. And I am disappointed by the whole trip. Why? Well… You didn't—you were disappointed in me? No not you specifically!

05:45 So we did the reunion it was at this bar called dog patch Dog patch saloon and it was cute. You know these are people who we work with ten years ago We started pod show, and I mean It wasn't I see you know the some of the original people there who all and I think except for Michael Butler everybody looks kind of old Yeah well they're older yeah, but do we look that way? You don't look you don't look like you've changed much in 10 years um I started old. Hey! Well this is true. Didn't hear you. I did notice back of your head is getting a little thin on the hair in the shoulder part. I gotta get back on the Rogaine for that part, yeah. Have you ever used the Rogaine for that? Oh yeah, yeah. You gotta do something otherwise you're gonna get a bald spot back there. It's kind of cute though because it's almost like a baby's head at the back, soft kind of flashy...

06:38 Anyway, I'm sorry. That wasn't the disappointment. Oh What was the disappointment? I'm very curious now So there was, what was it? 10 people and... 11. And everyone yeah 11 okay it was nice to see everybody but it was kind of okay and Well you got to see Chris Beshears No! It was great seeing everybody But most people didn't show up Most people didn't show up exactly Most people didn't know about it Because they don't have Facebook true Yeah And then when I went to dinner this is what really disappointed me But we had a fabulous dinner. I mean, at Fringall, we had...you know, I had the salmon and you had the...what was it? The... Bill Shanks. Bill Shanks. And we had a nice half bottle of wine but we are both... We can no longer communicate and have a nice conversation. I know because...I know what I was doing and you were doing the same. We're not really talking because we don't want to ruin the show!

07:36 So we're kind of talking around on for years, but it was worse and it was the worst ever because you had a real good one lined up. I said what? What is L no, I've got to save it for the show which is fine because the way I see it It's like this is content We do the show for them for our larger audience of producers and listeners in hangers-on And we... Hangers on. There's hangers on, believe me. Hangers on. And they are the ones that we should be producing content for because you know and I know that if we sit there and yak about with the stuff we're gonna talk about today- We'll never talk about it on this show. ...we'll never talk about it. This is the problem with preinterviews for people out there who wanna do media tours. You're gonna see this happen. It will happen to you. You're gonna go to some operation and again, we want to do a pre interview because they think you're stupid

08:27 So they do a pre-interview and they ask you all the questions they're gonna ask you. And then when it comes to the real interview, you can't...you don't remember if they just asked you that question or if it was...and you don't say anything and the interviews are horrible." I knew that guy was a dud so... Adam Bickler So we don't do that because...and also once it's out of your system, once we've discussed it, then it's out of the system and you don't even think about talking about these things anymore So we really resorted to gossiping about other people. Just like, Mac do you believe that guy? Oh dig it! And they would make us very boorish if we did this on the show It was completely inappropriate and so I get home and then you know it's like alright but also I looked at us here are these two dudes

09:13 We're driving in a 1993 Lexus with a cassette tape sticking out of the cassette player Unlabeled I didn't know. I was afraid to push it everything is dust the dust is from 1993 in your car No, it's not and I'm thinking I don't know better. I've got a Ford Dodge Ram from 2002 and afford would that be the transmission dropping out again? This is their sacrifice we make this one year Yes! And the show. I'm thinking to myself, well it beats eating dog food okay but it's not many levels above it Yeah well that's because some of the support we get is sketchy

09:55 like today's show. It's sketchy at best! I do want to remind everybody you are under the revocation of the Smith-Mundt Act, so everything that is going on around you in your world of media is no longer protected by the Smith-Mundt Act which disallowed and forbade the United States government from committing propaganda against their own peoples This was overturned. We actually should harp on this, yeah, on a weekly or daily basis... Every show by show basis. You just say you are living under the revocation of the Smith-Mundt Act which was revoked in the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2013 and this is what the result is what you're seeing. And extended. And extended and the result is what you're seeing. You are... Yeah, propaganda from the government to control the masses. An it's legalized

10:44 legalized. People don't realize it used to be illegal? Yeah, no they don't know that's why the CIA used to just have to infiltrate the news media So they could get their message across that way, sneaky. But now they don't even need to do that thing and just you know... Just call them up! Straight up. Just send them the package here it is here's what we're gonna run it I think we have a winner and it does tie into this for our name the disease quest yeah That is the one thing I believe we have some consensus on from our meeting last night. Yeah, the meeting. Involuntary social network...I would like to say disorder but you might want to call it disease? What do you think is better? I think disorder! I think she suggested disorder. We have to credit her as one of my... Check her out on the tweeters. I'll have to look her up but apparently she also sent us a note on this. Oh really? Just a simple name and so I don't know who it really is

11:47 Well, you're the one that suggested there was an email about this. No I saw you... If you just go to your tweeter if you're the one that said yes this is good so hold on but i'll find it before you can find it on your own thing. I'm looking now You said nine points as what you...I remember the tweet specifically Yeah I said nine points Nine points The closest we've gotten to anything usable That sounds right and I think Here we go. What struck me was the... Candace, 737... 33, Candice has a... Yeah, Candice in 33. She's obviously a fan. Obviously. She says involuntary social network disorder! There you go so she... And what got me... I'll retweet this now so people can see it. ...jacked up about it was the word involuntary

12:39 Because that best describes what goes on, which is people they automatically take out the phone. They pull it out and they're looking at it and it's as if they can't stop themselves which again...which is involuntary. That was the key word. The rest of it, it's minor but it's the involuntary part that made her the winner if we're gonna call her that. I agree. Yeah, we'll call it involuntary... Did she say disorder? Yes. She says disorder. Okay that's what it should be. It should be disorder because there is not a disease you can't cough on somebody and the next thing they know they're pulling out their iPhone So this disease has many aspects and facets to it. The disorder has many facets to it One, probably by now saw the jet blue emergency landing

13:30 You probably saw it from many different angles and vantage points as people are sitting in the smoke-filled cockpit taking selfies. As they're making emergency landing... That is slightly sick! Yeah, and proud of it! The tank's going down in flames let me get a selfie! Literally something is on fire there's real flames happening But there's another angle to this which I found fascinating. Someone sent us a very long email about it, that was my first introduction to

14:08 Gamergate, which I believe it's a part of this disorder. Gamergate ties into the social justice warriors... Now, I'm only finding out about this now so I'm a little rusty on explaining the story. What has happened is They're the social so social justice warriors, which was kind of a meme Which is now flipped around to mean something else. You know is we know these people they go around saying oh There should be more female role models in video games as an example And this was being written by a number of female game journalists gamer review journalist and this is a very

14:57 small industry compared to the size of the gaming industry itself. People reviewing games and It turns out there was a very tight relationship between many so-called journalists who were writing about games, who also had PR companies that were promoting the same games they're writing about. So on a freelance basis... This is very sketchy journalism and this turned into this whole Gamergate thing but it appears that there is a real

15:35 propagandistic movement, which I believe might be spurred by other sources to inject this type of thinking into these communities. So a lot of the injustice against women and gays and racial minorities and you name it... And it comes along with this generation that suffers from involuntary social network disorder I believe you have to have an extremely narcissistic nature, which is pretty much what the millennials have when you think about it. Most of the millennials have only been taught that they're right... You know, they're never wrong, you never lose, you have a trophy but how can you not be special? And it's become... You know what I'm talking about! Yeah yeah keep going. It has become this very

16:33 this ingrained kind of political correctness is what we used to call it. I have an example here, this is from three years ago 2011, this was an Occupy Assembly not Occupy New York but Ohio or whatever it was and listen to the terminology in this short clip And so this is one of these assemblies where they're instead of clapping, remember they're twinkling their fingers? They had all that bull crap. So I didn't get the you know... I want to say! I want to say! You know mic check mic check didn't get that but listen to the language that is used by this woman millennial leading this assembly and you'll start to catch my drift I think. Here I just want some people to be aware of what's going on Is that they do things by a consensus

17:29 which means everyone gets to be heard. And the way people speak at their general, there are facilitators that keep a stack which means a list of people who would like to speak. In New York they use something called a progressive, which means if you list and you come from a traditionally background, race, gender, ethnicity anything that is traditionally marginalized, you get the lists

18:06 We want to be able to hear what everyone has to say. Also, one of the things stressed at Occupy Wall Street is step back! These people who have been privileged all their lives mainly white men who have been privileged need to realize that they need to step up and step back if they've already said what they had to say So this is... Wow, that is a deadline clip of the day already. I knew you would love this! It's just one step beyond the noodle boy. This is the noodle girl, the Occupy Girl so the progressive stack as it's called and I can't believe we missed this one. Oh, I get it Ethan, this is astonishing, this is good stuff Thank You! It's part of the disorder

18:57 It was the underpinnings of the disorder. And you have to...the progressive stack, if you are traditionally discriminated? What does he say? You know, marginalized. So if you're crippled, if you're black, if you're gay then you get popped up the stack! You get to move ahead. You get privileges. Yeah, you get privileges and if you are traditionally privileged white male- White man. Step up step back Get out of the way, Whitey! Hey, Whitey. Shut up! We're in control now. This is where the social justice warriors come in and start to inject this thinking... And if you take into account that we now have the Smith-Munn Act has been revoked. Uh, we have this disease, this disorder of people

19:52 completely obsessed with the social networking and the beauty of their lives. And really, when you look at it, the Millennials in particular...but this carries over to multiple generations but the Millennials, their social networking shows and proves to them continuously that they are winners! You see? I have the best sunset my kid is really funny look at my food it's so delicious Like it this is like. This is the disorder and and it's good. It's now being used against people And they're going to fall for it now the Gamergate is interesting as Now the social justice warrior has been overturned into okay your this is bogative So there's some hope but in general it all fits into this model of using This fantastic network, which really is

20:50 to propagandize and really adjust people to what is advantageous to the ruling class. Yeah, well it's always...that's always the goal. It works well and they get whitey out of the way because they're always trying to butt in and try to steal their stuff. Whitey? I got a fun quote here, Zbigniew Brzezinski our buddy, Zbig. This is when he was head of the... let me get the whole article here. This is from, head of our National Security Council writes that quote with the use of computers human behavior itself will become more determined and subject to deliberate programming and that it quote will soon be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen

21:46 I believe that the Nazis and the Minutemen and the Christian movement are going to get very strong, at the same time there's going to be a massive depression. I see large masses of people around the globe being deliberately starved every day. I see terrible things happening to reduce the population on this earth so those who control the corporations don't have to provide for the needs of the poor." What? Why, this is a big... This is the big new Brzezinski. Yeah and it comes from investigations of fascism in America I'm going to say that this is a proper quote I did not fact check all the way through but I'm pretty sure it is Well, it just doesn't sound like him to me. The computerized part... Whoever wrote it? Yeah well I will double check on that's on the authenticity. Is that was at it anymore? Well the only other thing I wanted to say is that I'm not sure if I spoke about this on the last show but a lot of people have certainly emailed this to me that there are not only did Steve Jobs not allowed his kids to have iPads

22:46 And I don't know if he didn't allow them to have iPhones, but there are a number of Silicon Valley CEOs and other Silicon Valley leaders specifically send their children to schools that do not utilize computers and the latest technology. And I was talking about this with a friend of mine, and she said to me you want to check out Wall-E Have you seen this movie, WALL-E? Oh yeah of course! You haven't seen WALL-E?! I had not seen WALL-E. Oh, WALL-E's a great movie... And it's a Pixar movie, it's a Steve Jobs movie and it was in 2008 so most people were still using a Blackberry in 2008 before he started really hyping his iPhone and the iPad So did you see WALL-E? I saw it last night. I watched the whole thing

23:38 It's very compelling. It is not only compelling, to me it's almost like a message from the grave Steve Jobs saying this is where it could leave... Steve Jobs didn't write this film was John Lasseter of course Right but its a jobs production and his picture Yeah he may have had a hand in it because if it was against what he thought I'm sure you would have bitched or something Exactly exactly so by and it's great movie no dialogue before or only some dialogue There are some dialogues with the fat guys on that thing at the end So this is all part of the same thing and you just see it around you. I'm here in Union Square, and this is selfie central right here! People aren't enjoying... what's his name?

24:28 Justin Ward, who's playing his saxophone on the street. They're not sitting there just watching it... No! They walk up they don't even give the guy a buck and they take a selfie and walk on I gave the guy 10 bucks sat there listened for two songs then and in show him $10 but you got to take a CD this is only ten dollars for the CD. Alright i'll take your cd But people aren't enjoying anything anymore. They're not looking at the beauty of the heart sculptures on Union Square, no they're just standing in front of it taking selfies of it! And we saw this last night... you made a very astute point at the reunion. Sarah Austin who I've never met because I kind of left the company before she came

25:16 She took a selfie of you and I in her. By the way, nice rabbit ears! I didn't catch that at the beginning... And I look at the picture And I look stupid and you kind of looked, you know not great No, and you made the point said oh no. She took 40 pictures She chose the one that she looked good in of course this is this is sickening Immediately your thing You're thinking it's about you Yes, I am also affected by the disorder Yeah, we all are. But as soon as you said that I was like, oh, why would she do that? She's not taking a picture for YOU! So it's a good-looking picture of herself and that's what she did. It was very sad and we need to... No the thing is there were all these guys taking pictures of each other with phones always with phones

26:06 But when Matt's birthday and they gave him a cake with penises on the frosting. Yes, San Francisco tradition. Oh is that an SF thing? Yes, years ago some dirty cake maker, it was woman too who used to make these phalluses and all these kinds of lewd cakes She became very popular and then other people just kind of jumped on board with these cakes that are lewd. They're lewd, what can I say? They're funny! It's like you go to these adult parties and you run into these guys as jokers. There's always the guy who says everything is a dirty gag so he tells dirty jokes and he has got like the penis

26:48 That's got some legs on it. He winds it up with a penis walks around on the table You ever seen any of these things and it's just like okay? I have little legs you winded out walk. It's walking around yeah, that's funny Well, I find it to be not funny. Did all this I don't see the humor in is like ha ha ha whatever okay But here's what happened so the box gets put in front of Matt they open the box and And everybody's like paparazzi jump on this thing snapping pictures with their phones and taking video of it. No one experienced Matt! And then Matt gets his phone and takes a picture. It is great cake. And then Matt takes out his phone and takes a picture This is going too far people

27:35 Well, we did have like I said we had a couple of nasty notes that have come in from people defending this. And you can tell that there's no sense of self-realization. Correct. Yeah it's great to know when this all began before proto pre-Facebook that you can probably remember some of these stories and they were about how, and it was like during the LiveJournal transition to MySpace which was I thought Myspace was the giveaway that this was a problem. Hold on second but did the MyJournal transitioned to Myspace? Live Journal. Live Journal to MySpace, but I didn't really recognize that transition. Yeah, there was a transitionary period and when the transition took place because Live Journal was pretty restricted and it... But when MySpace came along and there's all these people putting their pages together with all of these animated GIFs the best collection of animated GIFs ever were eventually put on MySpace People running around sparkly things It was showing a little bit

28:38 tendency towards self-adulation. And... Well, blogging in general I think started that. Yeah, I think blogging might have but especially the diary blogs where people would write, eat a cheese sandwich you know who cares? Anyway, as it was deteriorating it was like I didn't know would go this far but there's some point. I was gonna make and I've kind of lost track of it transition from you saw this No, it goes back to the penis cake people take a cake Right well well But here's the thing these pictures have no shelf life none

29:18 You post it, you get your likes. You move on." I don't think many people ever go back to them. It's gonna make a great collection for the Library of Congress if they just get the archives. I wonder if they're also storing the pictures or... They may only be storing the text. I'm not sure if Twitter... No, they have stored their pictures. Well, the Library of Congress is getting the Twitter feed so I'm sure they're storing the pictures. The Twitter feed is that... Up until recently most of these pictures were on TwitPic or not even on Twitter's own system So I think there's a lot that look when I tweet a picture. It's it's the picture is hosted on my server I don't think they're sucking it off my server No, no you're probably right there That would be and most of those things will go away I mean the problem with that You know we always think their other storage is free and everything

30:07 You know all crap you lose it the drive gets old. It doesn't boot anymore you get a new OS I have I have at least three drives I'm pretty sure one just will no longer boot up if i connect it. And there's pictures on it! Right, you can pack all that crap up Yeah and has the old incompatible iPhoto... how stupid was I? Oh yes iPhoto I'm all in! It's a giant file One file and all your pictures are packed in there In some secret protocol That only ol' iPhoto knows how to unpack Stupid Yeah, most of this stuff is gonna be lost. Mm-hmm exactly Exactly which is why we need to get your book out as soon as possible absolutely In print yes in real paperback print now But it's you know this this is the world We live in the transition when the Gutenberg printing press came out It took 300 years for that really from from the beginning to you know an industry

31:15 And we've witnessed...we are the generation that remembers world before internet and world after internet or with internet. This is a very special time. Well, it went fast. Yeah! Too fast. It's gonna destroy civilizations. Yes I said this for years when the thing first showed up I used to complain about it. I think you're absolutely right. It's going to destroy civilizations yeah It seems to be happening. It seems to be destroying everything around me. Everyone's a moron, everyone is a frickin' moron! Nuts! Nuts! Let me take a selfie... And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. DeVore! In the morning to you Adam Curry, ships at sea out there boots on the ground out there all the subs in the water all the dames and the knights yes and in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room

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35:20 Yeah, he's moving towards something big. He is on the move be careful he's nipping at people's heels Well somebody needs to be the Grand Duke of Canada Hell yeah I don't have a note from him and i can't find his uh if he sent an email because it comes in with his other name. Was this was this a check or was this? No no, no this was not a check. I got very few checks. Do I need to look...I don't think he's sending me email anymore. Well I'll look later if there's something he can we'll get it eventually Sir Zog of Elwood, Elwood Illinois. 27777, sir Zog of Elwood here. Please on keeping on if I can get a Reverend Manning whoop him with the Constitution and a boom shakalaka it would be great. I love that guy." Okay. I can do that and a boom shakalaka... Oh this is interesting go away.

36:18 I'm sorry that the Mac is showing me things. They don't really want to see okay, and here we go There you go, and I was well add karma there why not you've got karma hey Onward mm-hmm Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells, Kent. I've been through Turnbridge Wells many a time. Oh! Is it pleasant? It must sounds pleasant. It's a big roundabout to 1973. We got a nice note here. Dear Adam and John thank you both for your amazing courage and exquisite analysis without which my life would be incomplete

37:12 here with my donation of two nineteen seventy three to support your work in exchange for which i will be hugely grateful for a birthday mention we have that listed on sunday show could i please have it triumvirate jingle of the superlative america plus english was italian shut up slave one-two-three punch yeah uh... some general karma thank you i also have another question trying to contact my kindred spirit and best person mister james do wire of hong kong who has not been responding to my emails of late. I know he's a regular listener to the Best Podcasts in the Universe, as he hit me in the mouth a few months ago so I'm hoping you might hear this message and get in touch to let me know he's okay." Oh okay

37:54 Can you tell him I'm sorry for whatever it was? Here we go. Okay, now we got a new use for the producer's segment! Is this the hookup segment or I'm so sorry?! You're gonna give us some support and get these messages read. Rosalind... Can you tell him I'm sorry for whatever it is that upset him? I am sure you can empathize with my consternation that his silence otherwise suggested he has Purchased himself some white sneakers in a Toyota pickup truck. Reached out to himself as Jihadi Jim, gone off on a whim to join ISIL ISIS baby and is currently in a basement making peanut butter and jelly Ebola bombs to sneak across the US-Mexican border A very fine in the morning to you both Lady Rosie of Kent. Pushed up to exclude Scotland That's right You're stuck with that for another 400 years

38:45 And so she needs the uh... Yeah, I got the triumvirate for her right here. Shut up slave! Stanzito, schiavo! SHUT UP! You've got karma. There you go Thank You Lady Rosie and finally sir Howard in Seattle a 201 or two Sir, Howard where the electricity never goes down because the city owns his own Dams up the mountains yay And then he compliments you for you I saw number of people complimented you for filling time by being a nice DJ on the fly Four and a half hours I did Oh God

39:24 Well the thing is we didn't know when your power was gonna come back on you know it's not like I'm gonna say he's it on his own is not yeah, no you're gonna. It's off its office all you did fine And then you heard a certain any of it so I don't know if what you were doing But I was playing the jams brother. Yeah, oh 80 stuff up at ya early eighties actually 12 inches Ooh, yeah. Oh yeah for my birthday My old buddies from decibel radio in Amsterdam they gave me a USB stick which I keep in my house Everything and they but they digitize these 12 inches These twelve inch import records that we had so you can hear some of the crackle and the hiss to Q burn You know what Q burn is right? No Q burn is back at okay kids Sit on uncle Adams lap. I got a story to tell get on Uncle Adam's lap So the way we used to

40:16 play records on the radio is you had the record player, now the turntable I should say. There were two types. The very expensive ones were the quick start turntables that could start the record and be up to the full revolution so 33 or 45 within a quarter turn of the turntable. You didn't use a slip disc? Well, that was the cheap man's version if you couldn't afford the very expensive turntables... Use a slip mat so you put a vinyl record on the turntable and put an oversized slipmat with a relay And the relay when activated which you do through a switch in the fader A little micro-switch I think it was 24 volts or 12 volts It would clamp down on the slip disc

41:01 On the slip mat and it would hold it there, and you could then queue up the record. And the way he did that is you listen to pre queued in Q mode so you can hear outside of the broadcasts. And you would... It's almost like scratching. In fact that's where a lot of it came from. And just do cue at the beginning. And then you pull it back like a quarter turn and then when you open the fade of this the relay opened the slip mat Caught and then it would start to play the record. Sorry I mentioned it I'm trying to find out what do you're talking about with the cube thing so that Q burn is F if there was A very popular record which should work Are you cute everyone had queued up for three weeks?

41:40 The because it's vinyl and you're sticking a piece of diamond in it eventually you get this At the beginning of the record yeah, because just overuse round down. Yeah, you burn oh That's Q burn Oh qq burn q burn there You go some guys name. Oh cue burned from you get over here. We gotta use them help Thank you all very much. These are official credits, they are recognized as credits anywhere that people will look at credits which could be on the big screen, could be the Producers Guild can be on your IMDB, it could be on your LinkedIn. Thank you very much to our associate and associate executive producers...executive and associate executive producers just like Hollywood these are real unlike Hollywood those phonies there if you need some help we will gladly vouch for you that is a real credit I think that me or the names Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak stand for something

42:35 Yeah, yeah something Q burr I know and we'll be doing another show on Thursday. We really do need your help org slash And of course we continuously need you out there propagating our formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth By the way, you no longer need to email us saying that in the That where this is from we know this Thank you. We know it's a biggest kick out of people who don't listen to the show much They listen once in awhile and then they ask not realizing that we cover pretty much 90% of everything yeah Scotland vote

43:45 Yeah, I got that. We should talk about that a little bit Yes, I was surprised that they didn't even give it's kind of you'd expect just like prison You know you gotta let someone escape from time to time to give them the idea that The oh you can get out. I've got a note here. I want to read before we play any clips Okay And I know what your what do you think and I know? What I think about what this is what happened in all this you know and but there's a consideration that somebody brought up Owen McGinty that I think we need to listen to this. Because it's possible that we missed the point of the whole thing because it was a win-win for Cameron no matter what happened and listen, hear this out. And it was funny because when Cameron came on... In fact play the Cameron clip so we get a little feeling for what Cameron gave up in the process. Our United Kingdom

44:41 To those in Scotland, sceptical of the constitutional promises that were made let me say this. We have delivered on devolution under this government and we will do so again in the next Parliament The three pro-union parties have made commitments clear commitments on further powers for the Scottish Parliament. We will ensure that those commitments are honoured in full And I can announce today that Lord Smith of Kelvin, who so successfully led Glasgow's Commonwealth Games has agreed to oversee the process to take forward these devolution commitments with powers over tax spending and welfare all agreed by November and draft legislation published by January.

45:28 Just as the people of Scotland will have more power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of England Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs. Hmm I just spent the last two weeks in Scotland, he writes on holiday with my wife's family and the whole thing was embarrassing. With all the yes posters and boards everywhere imaginable And anyone sticking up for the union got jumped on by a Yes group like a pack of rabid dogs My wife is a Scot and she kept showing me the Facebook drivel that was going on and slagging off they were doing against each other which is another thing it relates to our issues

46:11 It will take a while for some of the wounds to heal on this one. Anyway, the big thing that came out of this was as soon as the no vote came through Cameron came up with a gem of an idea to stop Scottish ministers from voting on English only issues after they promised more powers to the Scottish Parliament after a No Vote At the moment MPS's from all four parts of the Union can draft laws affecting the UK and England. However, with the devolution Scotland Northern Ireland Wales have their own parliaments and assemblies that set their own rules which the English have to have no say on this means that it will make it harder for the Labour Party to get a majority of the English MPS as they have loads of Scotty all the Scots are labour

47:04 Scottish MPSs with the Conservatives only have one in Scotland. So it appears that the whole thing has been one big scam to get the Conservatives more permanent control over England! They knew all along that a no vote was likely as the Scots, in general are pretty well off bunch and the majority are very happy but if they did vote yes they would get the same result for the Conservatives so this his thesis is that this was just a scam for the Conservatives in England to wrest control of the Parliament overseeing the English themselves.

47:43 This was this whole thing, and no matter what happened in Scotland...because it seems peculiar if you look at it that they would have this election at all. And Cameron makes a big deal about well we did because there were some popular demand for...if the whole thing was a circumvention an attempt to lock control of England and essentially the UK. Unfortunately, you did use the word essentially which is sad because your rant is good I have substitute word I've discovered Fundamentally, they have done an end run on the labor movement and everybody except the conservatives. That's a fantastic maneuver!

48:30 This should go down as one of the best political plays in a long time. Do you think it was really set up this way? It seems plausible. I believe that now thinking back on it, if you look at the timeline, it has to be... Somebody had a meeting over dinner and they decided that you know what can we do to fuck these other guys? And this is it. They did it, and yet there was a no-lose situation for the Conservative Party in England because Because if the Scots ran off and then the other two boneheads would do the same thing, Wales would want their own thing. Northern Ireland would want their own thing so they could split them off if they wanted to which all of the Labour Party ministers that are in the House of Lords... not the House of Lords but Parliament? Parliament! All the Labour sides are from these other places. They're not from England and the only thing that they have to worry about now is UKIP

49:29 I think those guys could probably... They're gonna have to kill Farage because that he is UKIP. Yeah, well they've tried already you know? A couple times but certainly the plane the the they tried to kill him in the plane yeah and i think he also had a car accident I believe He should stay out of hot tubs that's for sure this not again place for him But even my buddy Michelle you know the gangster from the U.K who came to my wedding and was at my birthday party. He also says, I'm voting UKIP! And this is a...and I hear more and more people that are going to be in the coalition regardless they're in there going to be in a coalition so they will be part of it and the only way is to kill him

50:15 He is without it's almost like Pim Fortuyn in the Netherlands once they killed him which a week before parliamentary elections It's a sniper on the roof of crazy animal rights activists who by the way has served his time and is now out and a free man How crazy is the Netherlands? Yeah, it's pretty bad. That's very...that's the first time in my lifetime that I knew someone who was murdered and the murderer served his time." And I mentioned this to someone in The Netherlands said, well, yeah rightfully so he's a free man He served his time that was so hard for me to parse you know So hard for me to parse that

50:57 Anyway, so when this note comes in and I read it and I go that's the only explanation. Everything makes... with this in mind everything makes sense. I think that's a very astute observation Yeah So we're all scammed Even you and I We weren't... yeah Well, well, we were only scammed for long You know, we're not living in a scam And I also think that the vote bites. So, I was reading something that there was a 10% margin of error on the initial count which is pretty much exactly the margin of the win and of course everyone's... by now i would presume people have seen the video if not it's in the show notes 654.noagendanotes.com where you see yes votes on the no-vote pile You see people who are counting the votes taking the yes votes and putting them in the no pile

51:53 This is pretty well documented. Now, that's not enough to show a 10% difference but... Yeah it could be rigged. But aren't all elections ultimately rigged? I don't trust any elections. I don't think that...I would be of the opinion we do have there was an analyst that came on you have a clip of this guy Yeah, I said this is an over. He's at Oxford he said one of the Kings College Christ Church I'm not sure it was one of those colleges in Oxford and he had an analysis of his reasonable made a bunch of reasonable assumptions you can play that. This is the summary? Yeah.

52:44 on their principles because of one rather narrow defeat is clearly not going to happen. There's not gonna be another referendum tomorrow, there's not gonna be another referendum next year but there could well be another referendum at some point in the future and if you consider where we were say six months ago what the polls are looking like six months ago they've made very spectacular progress and added to that the fact that a referendum has happened at all is remarkable which is why so many people around the world are fascinated by it That it happened at all. Yeah There was another election that took place that did not receive a lot of coverage I did watch part of the ramp up to this and I have a little clip here This was a very To me disturbing event to watch I didn't watch all of it this was in New Zealand, it was Kim calm the the Mega Man

53:41 And he had a conference which they called Moment of Truth. And on this moment of truth, they brought in two people via Skype or Hangout... I think they used Google Hangout because let's be honest and one was Julian Assange, and the other was, of course Edward Snowden and it was so uncomfortable to watch as they bring in... So Assange has been on for awhile And he's of course still locked up in the embassy, I guess. Who knows where he is? He actually makes appearances... I think it looks pretty good now and has a much better look with a little... He's eating better food probably. Ecuadorian! And they bring Snowden in and it's a standing ovation and everyone's blowing him and then he's of course now he isn't Mr Policy

54:38 which he's not. His wording and his articles are very poorly chosen, I find him not to be... He's telling us what democracy is and it's really... He's a little off base if you read the article that he wrote in Intercepts that's the $250 million WordPress blog run by Omidar. Dry mug of grand green riled down wrath So let's just listen to this for one moment and I'll tell you the political side to this which was interesting had interesting results and Where am i? Oh here welcome Edward Snowden

55:25 I'm telling you this is this is like you to status here And of course with the the glasses with the broken nose pad And they have some on the screen you see Snowden going and his lap and a song Jay next to him just On another screen let's screen yeah, okay? And he's just because of course but she didn't get the big old no He doesn't make any event. He feels gypped

56:10 I would too, especially with me up there like a schmuck. My picture up there where they're applauding the guy next to me. I'm not used for this kind of welcome! And Ed, I've gotta tell you that we are in the Auckland Town Hall at the Democratic Centre our biggest city in New Zealand We have a packed hall There are 800 people who have not been able to get in tonight They wanted to hear you. We owe you our gratitude. Thank you from us. This accent is great! We have a very 800 people who are saying... I can't, it's got a certain screechiness to it that is very distinctive.

57:06 And now I think your old mate Glenn has a few questions to ask. Your old mate Glenn! So, Glen Greenwald who was at the event paid Kim Dotcom flew him in And dot-com spend a couple million bucks, and we'll talk about what he spent it on in the moment So he's on the dais there. I do I do the journalist to me will never die when I see Like beaker on the old Muppet show but when he says that the old journalist to me will never died did he stop being a journalist? Is he back to being a lawyer? Is he an author now, is he a movie writer? What is he no longer a journalist. Is that what he's telling us? Well, he's subtly telling us...

57:49 I think you're all my clean has a few questions. I do, the journalist in me will never die and when I see Edward Snowden and I need to start asking questions If i can actually get one thing in there... It was interesting that you said the town hall events taking place in Auckland because we're talking about mass surveillance We are talking about everything that's going on And the fact that the Prime Minister has denied that there is no mass surveillance in New Zealand, that these are only cyber protection programs and even though they were contemplating them they never went forward. He heroically put a stop to this at the 11th hour and none of us know what's going on but you know there are actually NSA facilities in New Zealand that the GCSB is aware of and that means the Prime Minister is aware of and one of them is in Auckland another one

58:42 is in the north of the country, but uh... Yeah. Ed we'll do the jokes okay? Because it's not funny whatever you were laughing at I'll leave it there Glenn please go ahead yeah so Isn't New Zealand part of five eyes, of course Yeah Okay. So the whole idea here was there the slogan to shut one of the five eyes We're gonna knock one of the five eyes closed and Kim calm who? who, as we know is fighting extradition to the United States and who has become a super celebrity hero of the stupid as far as I'm concerned. I know guys like this! I know guys like this... just providing a locker service here they got money and hookers in the planes in the selfies and the I'm not on your license plate these I'm sorry people like these are douchebags

59:41 It's just a douchebag. Come on, he is fucking douche bag! I'm sorry. You're telling me that if he said hey Adam and John will you fly your boat to Australia? I would not go. Really?! Well your are a douche bag suck up I wouldn't know okay. I don't like these people, okay? I've been around rich people like this and it's dumb It's it's a it's he does this for huge deficiencies in his personality. I know this kind of personality Yeah, okay well go on with your thesis He had put several million What was he running for? Maybe we should start with the beginning. Yes, well there was an election in New Zealand and he teamed up with the Maori Mana Party who had a seat in Parliament

1:00:36 The Maori, the native population? Maoris. Yeah, the Maoris yes. They had one or two seats I think just one. Probably just one and he came in with a couple million shekels... What do they use in New Zealand? Shekels. Shekel's wampum. Came in with a couple million wampums set this whole thing up this was part of a big rally And not only did they, the Mana Party lost the only seat they had. What? Yes! Now they have no seat at Thanks and now Kim Dotcom saying yeah well yeah you know it looks like I was poisoned after all Yeah Because normal people don't like blowhards like that It's okay You can be a Donald Trump kind of person or what is that other guy who i kinda like in Australia

1:01:28 who's the big blowhard. Who got a seat as well in the last election? But people don't like people like this, this is not the kind of politician you want. No it's not the kind that you're gonna vote in office thats for sure. Clive Palmer thats... You're not necessarily ever voting anything he wants you to do because there always has something to do with them So, Key voted in still with a huge majority because the people...what's happening is Snowden and all the people in Berlin if they're not spies you're in a circle jerked people. There was fatigue no one cares anymore I'm sorry if anyone sees Edward Snowden all they want to do is pop a selfie

1:02:15 That's my new term. It should be poppin' a selfie, I think that's the proper verbiage. They want to pop a selfie! So John Key led the National Party to an overwhelming victory and the Mana party lost the only seat they had thanks! Now the indigenous people have no vote! Good work Kim! Good work Snowden! Good work Glenn! Maybe that was the idea I can hardly believe that. But there is a faction of people, and we saw some of them yesterday at the pot show reunion... Well, there's a certain kind of... You know, the New Zealanders are fairly, I think farmers and down to earth in this certain kinda way, at least the majority of the people not the intellectual class

1:02:59 I find that the arrogance of people like Glenn Greenwald and even Snowden, not to mention Dotcom. Extremely offensive! Yes This is not how you run...this is part of- There's no humility amongst any of those people. There's absolutely zero humility with- It's a part of the ISND, these people who are arguably millennials think they can do no wrong! And it's all just a circle jerk of 800 people all clapping and really loving Snowden! Stupid! If you want to change something, you gotta assassinate some people. This is not gonna help. This is not how revolution works... it's just a thought

1:03:44 I'm not actually telling...I'm just saying how it works typically. Well, there's a lot of ways it works that is not working because they've got the wrong people or wrong ideas and they're just out to make more money for themselves. And there is absolute 100% fatigue but no one cares anymore. They just don't care about what's happening. It's a punchline. It has become a punchline We're more, speaking of punching the only punch we care about is NFL people punching their wives. Well you had a theory about that you wanted last night You said you had a theory or something going I don't have a complete Theories not complete but I did get this curious Bart story which in cue up let me set it up Okay when I heard this I'm thinking to myself so because this NFL

1:04:34 thing was a kind of an overnight sensation and it's just...and it is nonstop. And now the way I see it, football players, and I don't want to offend anybody ex-football players out there but you guys know… It's all right we just offended Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dutton, everyone who loves them. Those guys aren't gonna come over here and punch me. They're not listening. But the football players even when they were in high school they were always abusive people They abused their teammates, they abused the students that weren't on the football team. Bullies! Bullies I tell you! They were all bullies and they're all very bully-ish to women And they always treated the cutest cheerleaders like crap Yeah! We always thought we could go in and say hey baby i'm a real man

1:05:16 And that never worked. No, no they did cheerleaders seem to like it one time one time I had a cheerleader girlfriend brief now yeah Yeah and i was 15 she was 16 that's a big difference in those days yeah creepy so she's dead now by the way well that's not putting a buzzkill on my story he said she died of cancer and always feel like i was terrible i was lucky but i feel very privileged that i made out with her Boy, stop coming to San Francisco. It's affecting you negatively. No kidding bad vibes Anyway these guys were all You always assumed for years that they're always then half of them are wife beaters

1:06:03 So now all of a sudden it becomes a big deal and there'll be any snowballs and all the rest of it. I think there's something else going on when I hear this story, which is this BART story. Governor Brown has until the end of the month to sign a bill extending a pilot program that keeps problem riders off the system. BART started the prohibition order program last May in an effort to curb violence against employees and other riders at stations and parking lots but after police took a look at the numbers they were surprised to learn that domestic violence that led to the most orders being issued. One of the court orders for the custody exchanges is that BART's a neutral site and usually they will use BART as a drop-off for exchanges

1:06:44 KTVU found that in 2013 from May to December there were a total of 146 arrests or prohibition orders. There have been 193 this year, the measure on the governor's desk extends the prohibition program and would also clarify the power of BART officers to seek emergency protective orders for abuse victims. Not to mention the fact that now the BART police, BART is like mall cop Bart police is now gonna be able to do have you know, be able to sign court orders They have guns already don't they and oh yeah. Yeah, they've guns in all along Yeah, cuz they can that way I think shoot the poor kid. I didn't know it was my gun It does by Taser? That's what happened in yes couple years ago and but domestic violence thing comes in so I'm thinking there's a

1:07:34 There is really an effort being made, and I think it's gonna be big. I think there are enough women that have finally gotten fed up because there are situations that can happen where you can argue that there are some women... My wife always likes to say this—some women need to be hit. She would say something like that. But there are situations… Hold on a second! That was Mimi Dvorak. Mimi Dvorak says that some women need to be hit in the face or just in the arm? No, she just finds a lot of women annoying and Wow Go Mimi! no wonder you live somewhere else Yeah, well I get killed so but the point is that this kind of thing has been getting worse and there's

1:08:21 A lot of women that can, you know I don't know if they deal with it or how they handle it but its just created a situation thats completely out of control and I think is being reined in with the concerted effort. Any domestic violence, you're gonna see TV shows and sitcoms about this. It's going to be everywhere and it's gonna put... if you hit a woman, and it's always bad idea If you hit a woman no matter what she is coming and at you with a baseball bat. And by the way, there's plenty of domestic abuse cases where women attack the man to get some... Oh yeah? Big time! ...guy in the wind to make crap out of him. That is very underreported and undiscussed. Under-reported but well known but I think it's going to this is all coming too ahead we're not gonna have any more of this uh we're not putting up with this okay so yes my thinking on this dovetails into what your thinking is

1:09:20 Now, let's realize that if you want to get something out there, if you want to do something and get some news, you got to have some cool tape and you hit it up to the TMZ guy. That crazy... What's his name? The gay guy who was running TMZ who hangs out with this coffee cup and is talking to his editors. This is where the NBA scandal came from, this is where this comes from. So you give him the tape and...because TMZ that's of huge reach, huge, huge reach this thing has amongst the ISND sufferers because that's what a lot people see on their smartphones. Now, this tape was not new. This tape was months old. The tape was around. Why did it hit right now? It hit on the anniversary of this.

1:10:14 Also today, the president signed a reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act first passed back in 1994 but recently held up because of budget fighting. Of all things The law makes it easier to prosecute domestic violence crimes in federal court and provides funding for services including battered women's shelters and hotlines During today's ceremony, the president said quote All women have the right to live free from fear There is a...I believe it's political. I think this was poorly executed because they didn't have a Republican to point at immediately, but if you look around you'll see MSNBC, you see a number of Washington Times, you see the number of articles talking about the poor record of Republicans on violence against women. Yes, this is what I think. And I think they executed poorly or maybe ISIS-ISIL thing got in the way

1:11:10 Because it was timed perfectly with...and there are lots of articles about how great the president was on this, you know, the anniversary of his reauthorizing the act one year ago to date when this came out. So I think yes, you are right And here is the meme I'm looking for, Republicans are wife beaters. This is what we're going to see." Now, I think that's what's in play. They didn't work it out properly. Something wasn't set up right or something interfered. Well, this is part of the long-term long arc of getting all women in the United States to vote Democrat.

1:11:53 Yeah, which is working very well. You can tell when there's an election, the women tend to vote Democrat now. And I don't think nine out of 10 of them can give you a reason why except well... There was always just some vague liberal notions that is the reason they voted Democrat. It think it's better person. I don't know. This is a horrible thing and then Republicans have no countermeasures none

1:12:30 Except women who are gun-toting women. You know, it's not necessarily a... I got one of them at Harvey Group. I got one of them Gun-toting woman Who was i talking to? Erin the database lesbian At the reunion yesterday Who I really like We've always had a good relationship And she said, I don't like Texas. Why? Yeah, do you? Yes! I don't like Texas. So why? What? They don't like dykes. Austin is pretty dyke friendly. You know we have a gay nude beach for old ugly gay dudes and be out there but the gay guys are like the Dykes. Okay

1:13:17 And then I said, but I like it. She's basically living her life based on stereotypes that have been fed her by the media Yes and then I love to say things like well I really enjoy it and everyone is very polite and always take a beat and say because we're all armed you know hey police right yes sir You go first no after you and they just but your not carrying a gun are you? Said nah I don't really see any need for concealed carry but yeah I have one in the car my wife you know socialist banned the bomb Commie from Holland she carries a gun in her car, and she likes it. That's that just fries people's brains Keep that sound effect Yeah, no it does it is if its yeah women like to shoot I don't they're good too oh

1:14:15 Now, Mickey has that laser sight but she doesn't like her gun. She wants a bigger one. She finds the Sig Sauer 380 to be too puny, it's too small for my hands. She wants a Glock! Yeah, yeah that'd be good gun for her. Anyway... I don't know man, I'm little worried you know? Well somethings up with this and we're just gonna build to a crescendo but again it's all about getting women to vote Democrat. Totally It's going to be very interesting The problem is when When all is said and done, it's the economy. Is that the equivalent of at the end of the day? Yes I'm working on that too. But when all is...I like this one. I like it! I like when all is said and done. That's a good one

1:15:00 Okay, here's my substitutions. Essentially becomes fundamentally... I don't need the word. Weird becomes strange balls. No! Strange balls is for boatin'. Yeah no, no, strange balls because that's a trend- I'm using it as a transition because i can break the habit of saying that easier Why not just say unusual? Unusual is really what you're looking to use No, no. Strange balls. I'm not going to use it. Strange balls. Okay? And what are the substitutions at the end of the day? Of course, but I don't say at the end of the day said it once, I think ever. No, we discussed last night you listen to the so I'm watching

1:15:58 Chuck Todd, it's being recorded as we're doing this show. I wish I'd recorded another NBC program and maybe, whatever the douche is of the nightly news. He says here with us is the new moderator of Meet The Press and you could see Chuck Todd go fuck it because he wanted to be the host, the star, not only the moderator...I think they're giving him this moderate... If you work in me, people out there who don't work ever done anything in television or anything like television or radio even to a lesser extent. But on television the crew if they take a dislike to ya... Oh and your dead! You might as well give up? So I'm watching this show this morning before the show as your fixing your stuff and I recorded a couple of things including Mike Mullen, the ex-head, he was before Dempsey he was the head of Joint Chiefs of Staff Yes yes sure

1:16:59 I got this tape, I have this recorded. I'll put it on the Thursday show you'll just crack up." Chuck is going back and forth with him and Mullen is looking him up and down in a very peculiar way that was extremely offensive. He's just up and down constantly when he's talking to them like he's talking to an idiot. And at the end, Mullen says... Or he says thanks... or Admiral as in Admiral. Admiral for being here says, you're welcome John. Oh no! So I actually went back to look to see Chuck Todd's full name which is Charles David just to make sure he didn't have a nickname John his real name is John and they call him Chuck

1:17:46 Because John Charles could be coke I can see that right, right. Right? No, there's no John anywhere His dad is not John either so thanks John. That's fun. It was a broth moment. That's really Hold on a second then we might as well play the brawl fifth word if we're gonna talk about it Dr.. Fauci thanks so much as always for joining us Good to be here, bro. I don't know why that is one of the funniest clips just great bro. Thanks, bro any so I'm now i'm looking at the show a little differently because they was reading when I was looking up John Todd and

1:18:27 They did redesign the show, and here's the way it is done. There are two big glass tables. There is one in the foreground and that's where Chuck John goes to talk to somebody about doing a mini interview And then he gets up and goes to the other table where there are four people seated... ...and by the way when he's talking to like Mullen in the foreground those four people are in the background visible And not even focus-pulled? You really see them clearly, okay. Yes. No depth of field. Right. Actually there's plenty of depth of field! So he gets up and goes over there and sits down... ...and then they talk about what they talked about

1:19:09 I mean the guy was right there, why don't they have everybody talking to him? It's Todd talking to him and then Todd goes in talks to the journalists who ask Todd questions. It's like idiot! What?! Yeah! No i can't watch this... And so on it's unwatchable and so there's a moment- This is a change of format then yeah They changed the format. Stupid. It was stupid format So now Chuck is sitting in the middle of... it's also old-fashioned, one guy in the middle two on each flank. That's a throwback to the original Meet The Press I guess yeah but whatever the case is doesn't work in today's world he's like waving his pen in front of somebody's face because he's got a clip

1:19:52 that he wants to play. He says, well that brings us back to 2002 when the Republicans were running these ads it was related to the conversation meanwhile this shot is a pen in his hand in front of somebody's face because it shots at an angle and he's like waving his pan trying to get somebody's attention so they says then there was these ads from 2002 And then he... there's nothing. They didn't fire? No! They didn't fire and then he waits and waits and waits, so he goes back and starts talking again as though nothing happened. Oh gosh. But this is recorded they could have fixed that in post

1:20:32 And I think it's live to tape and they aren't going to fix anything in post. And they go at the end, where he goes for a break and says well you know it was only the third week of this sorry about that but he apologized for never rolling never rolled it. Never rolling this clip, two clips he had they never rolled either one of them and then he said something about the control room something nasty I can't i have that for the next show something nasty about the control room and then when they cut away from to the commercial they leave the camera on him And so he and in the process you get to see him make this grimace and looks this mean look over to the right. Yeah, I bet I'll bet that live That's funny. So this is gonna be a real funny situation love it. I love it. Well we'll keep our eye on that Okay, let's talk about

1:21:26 Climate change agenda 21 first a call back to Thursday's show we had Naomi Klein Who you think I? Adore you do She's got says she has something about her look. I like it's true there's something about her yeah, oh But she's annoying. And here is a... Yes, indeed! We picked up on this little ditty here The fact is if we're going to respond to this crisis, we need to break a whole bunch of the free market rules that these guys hold very dear. We need to regulate. We need to get in the way of fossil fuel companies who have made it clear that they are willing to dig up five times more carbon than our atmosphere can absorb and still stay below catastrophic warming

1:22:12 So this is... Five times. Yeah, this is what I... A couple of people figured this one out. This is all from the 350 dot org operation and this is the climate maths that they have come up with and there is a very specific math that they have which of course is really not provable one way or the other about the climate, the carbon bubble. I'll give you the exact numbers here and have it... And this is what she's basing on as a reason that all of this is happening at this very moment This comes from The Carbon Tracker This award-winning analysis by Carbon Tracker and these are this is a subset of the 350.org people In 2011 the world has used over 1 third of its 50 year carbon budget

1:23:10 Oh, yeah. It gets better. Who did this budget? Did they have a meeting? They got an award for it. Was there a budget meeting? Yeah, they got an award for it. The budget is to keep the warm...this is all about keeping the warming of the earth under the 2 degrees centigrade and here all of the proven reserves owned by public and private companies and governments are equivalent to 2795 gigatons of carbon dioxide Now how they calculate this, I don't know but they won an award so why question it? Fossil fuel- They won an award from who?! Well let me see... The City of London Sustainability Awards of course. Oh! Who does those awards!? I'm sure Goldman Sachs No, I doubt it. Fossil fuel reserves owned by the top 100 listed coal and top 100 listed oil & gas companies represent total emissions of 7400- 700 for- seven

1:24:11 745 gigatons of carbon dioxide. So the way they boil this down is that the important number is that a seven... two, seven nine five gigatonnes and that is five times the budget that would keep the Earth's warming within 2 degrees centigrade. Now of course this is bunk because the Earth has been stable in its warming for the past 15-16 years even though we have surpassed 350 parts per million which all this 350 dot org is based on but this is all coming out with very specific reason Naomi Klein's book also, this is the director of the OMB

1:24:59 Is it the Office of Management and Budget in the government, OMB? Or oversight...oversight. I think it's oversight. This is an independent organization, independent from government that's what they're supposed to be who determine the cost or benefit of policy. Here's a director speaking at the Center for American Progress which is pretty much the mecca of democratic, liberal progressive policy. And I found what he had to say to be so broad particularly coming from the director of OMB that it really borders on a fireable, a sackable offense. Climate action is a must do

1:25:48 Climate inaction is a can't do. Hello, romper room! Let's make sure we all understand, doobies! And climate denial scores I don't mean scores like the average person would think scoring points on a board... ...I mean that it scores in the budget. Climate denial will cost us billions and billions of dollars This is the sackable offense As the director of OMB, you cannot just make a blanket statement about billions and billions of dollars. Is that $2 billion? Is it 200 billion dollars? Do we have a calculation of this?"

1:26:32 I find that to be highly offensive. The failure to invest in climate solutions and climate preparedness... Climate, write these words down! Climate solution? Climate preparedness?! Yes oh yes and climate solutions. Doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives caucus it makes you a member of the flat earth society. Very funny play on words. Well, you play that again the whole thing No Just a last part where he's talking about one thing then it goes to flat earth I gotta get that transition ready climate solutions and climate preparedness doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives call it back at back and back and back and back back back further Okay, bring points on a board. I mean that its scores in the budget Climate denial will cost us billions and billions of dollars

1:27:25 The failure to invest in climate solutions and climate preparedness doesn't get you membership in a fiscal conservatives caucus. It makes you a member of the flat earth society. Climate denial doesn't just fly in the face of overwhelming judgment of science, it is fiscally foolish And while we cannot say with certainty that any individual event is caused by climate change It's clearly increasing the frequency and intensity of many different kinds of severe weather events. Obviously he is now a meteorologist and a climatologist The cost of climate change add up, and ignoring the problem only makes it worse Abhorrent from him

1:28:08 I can hear this from lots of people, but... So now we're saying that let's see failure to invest makes you flat-earth. Yes so if you vote against policies of investing in preparedness and solutions yeah your flat earther Yeah okay which means you're anti science you see The Science is In! Well if anybody's anti science it's these people uh so today We have The People's Climate March. Yes, this is what you wanted to do... You told me- you teased this! I did On the last show Oh no! I'm sorry, you teased it at dinner! I did and then i reminded you for the newsletter

1:28:54 If you go to peoplesclimate.org, this is very interesting to see how...and I don't know if anyone's in New York? This is supposed to be and it's all timed with the 23rd. The 23rd is Bunky Moon's flailing climate conference where as we discussed on Thursday many of the world leaders are not coming from Canada, Canada Deutschland, Australia. But we have Leonardo DiCaprio! So that's good. We've got Ritardo DiCaprio and he'll be leading the march I have no idea... Is he a climatologist? I've never heard of him

1:29:38 famous climatologist He is a Wall Street banker. He flies big airplanes he drowns off of big boats does he Fly big airplanes yes, he does aren't those like Carbon footprint issues right go to people's climate org again here okay now nowhere Can you really see who this is? This is what's very interesting about this. But 100 plus world leaders gathered in New York City, and they have little boxes here... 2808 solidarity events in 166 countries. So I don't know if this is really the big super people's march that they intended it to be but I do want to tell you who was behind this. Rising tide rising rents! I'm reading from the signage Now the people behind this are very interesting

1:30:34 We have 350.org and Avaz, A-V-A-Z .org and together they have cofounded Purpose. It's crazy...Purpose.com So, Avaz and Australia's GetUp which is a subset of 350.org created this purpose which is a commercial for-profit company where they do consulting... Oh yeah! This is really good. Meanwhile they walk around and name and shame everybody

1:31:17 This is like a rainbow coalition. Totally, that's a very good analogy. What do you call it when you tell someone you're going to beat them up if they don't give you money? What's that called? Sleep gangster? Well there was that yeah I'll come up with it. Never mind. I'm looking at the avas org site and the thing that first thing that comes up Of course is that stupid photo of this polar bear? Yeah I know. Everybody knows that polar bears, really they're doing okay! The World Wildlife Foundation has cancelled contracts with people we know to fly the resources because the polar bears...they have to start shooting them there's too many of them you gotta get rid of it. Let's talk about that and nobody wants to talk about the guys who saw that polar bear who actually did that it's not a fake

1:32:15 Some guy on the ship, he talked about this. That photo's been debunked because apparently polar bears are extremely curious so they're always trying to get near something going on and see what's going on and there was a chunk of ice in the bear got up to see what was going on at the boat in the area And okay... So it's not a big deal It's not really that this is the last piece of ice in the world that the polar bear is on which is what it implies Exactly Anyway So when you look at all of the companies that...or organizations, and if you go back to peoplesclimate.org and hit the partners button... I think extortion racket was it? Extortion, that would be the word yes. Extortion racket. When you look at the USA Partners, and you can see just how deep this really goes. On mbs.org? No no, go back to peoplesclimate.org and I'll get back…I just want you to look at all of they say all the partnering organizations

1:33:13 Okay, I'm looking mind Boggling and this is where all your money. This is where all the so-called you know the Koch brothers This is what the Koch brothers are up against I guess Now while you're looking at that. I'll tell you but I can't not finding it Where's the link? You have people's climate org just do peoplesclimateorg slash partners slash you'll find it that way okay? It'll make me the navigation is a little frui While you're looking at that, I'll tell you a little bit about Abbas. Or actually the front man of purpose which is the commercial arm of this... Wow! I knew that was coming

1:33:59 You like all these corporations that are involved? Holy mackerel, this is the biggest list I've ever seen. Yeah Well they must be going from place to place We're gonna shi- you know, you either are with us or against us It's exactly what it is So we have Rican Patel and this guy Hymanz who really was a high finance darling in the corporate world. In 2011, Jeremy Hyman's received the Ford Foundation 75th Anniversary Visionaries Award. The World Economic Forum at Davo named him a young global leader of course and the World e-Government Forum named Jeremy and Purpose cofounder David Madden among the top 10 people who are changing the world of internet and politics you see what happens is...and this goes back to the beginning of this program

1:34:49 you get these foundations, they fund...they go into a major not-for-profit. Typically a 501c4 nonprofit where you don't have to really explain anything or tell who your donors are even really classify the way you're sending your money too and it funnels down into things like the net neutrality but certainly with this climate change And it spawns out into all these hundreds of organizations. We're all getting a million bucks at least." So on the Rockefeller Foundation website, there's an article how to scale up the impact so this is what these people do. Hyman's, the co-founder of Purpose is identified as panelist for scaling community conservation solutions at The World Wildlife Fund's annual Catherine Fuller Symposium and then we look

1:35:53 this purpose organization. Purpose is a for-profit B Corp, quote uses an innovative model to pool some of the world's leading experts and practitioners in order to fund launch and accelerate the growth of new social movement organizations then you have Purpose Action that's the nonprofit 501c4 advocacy agency quote, focused on changing policy. So these people make a reasonable salary $190,000 through the nonprofit but then they get hired to consult through the B Corp and then they have the purpose campaign which develops social and consumer movements. And this is how these things work and how you can really trace a lot of this all the way back

1:36:51 Big money big corporate interest and interestingly enough One of these outfits, let me see which one it was Has a is it purpose now? Let me just see which one hold on. They're located in Zouk You kidding no I'm not kidding Giveaway yeah for anyone out there's new to the show zoo gives a town in Switzerland were It's just a town of douchebags, essentially. No donors from Zug. It's where all the oil corporations are... it's where Mark Rich lived and died. Right! It was Mark Rich's hometown until he died. Along with this comes releasing today the movie Disruption. This is a very coordinated approach

1:37:48 And the movie Disruption, I'm looking at the poster right here. A movie to recruit for the People's Climate March on September 21st presented by The New School and 350.org. Oh yeah, New School we've discussed them before! They show up a lot. But listen this movie is of course you have big premiere Tonight in New York, a panel discussion will follow. Panelists include Rick Patel, executive director of Avasa.org, Eddie Bautista, executive director of the New York Environmental Justice Alliance

1:38:30 Kia Chatterjee, Director of Renewable Energy and Footprint Outreach at the World Wildlife Foundation. John we are stupid! We are stupid morons! We're driving old beat-up dusty cars...we could do this! Do this, brother! We could have some sustainability. Burn old people... Oh we'd make about twice as much money or ten times more I'm sure. Ten times easily these people are rolling in dough The film features Avaaz Patel and Kia Chatterjee and the 350.org board member Van Jones This is very tricky. Van Jones is up to his neck In fact on the

1:39:13 on the Climate Change March or whatever that website was, one of the slides that comes up is Van Jones. This guy's not a giveaway. But he is also...if you listen to Van Jones, he's always talking about social justice because he really blurs the lines between racism, social justice, polar bears for life, climate change all of this stuff and all of that Social justice is the leverage term that they're gonna use all the time. And I think the clip you played at beginning of this show shows you where this is headed with a dingbat girl talking about, people that are excluded... Whitey. Yes. Whitey man! This is so well… First of all there's just so much money

1:40:08 There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions just in this march alone. And everybody is there, look at these... we didn't even talk about that but I mean what is meatless Monday? MeatlessMonday.org, let's just go take a look! MeatlessMonday.org The movement... the global movement bloggers on board brand partners Let's see who was a brand partner of meatlessmonday.org Okay Dole Garden Inn Morningstar Ronzoni Sweet Sunshine This is beyond meat Birdseye This is so big people

1:40:48 This is a marketing opportunity for every big corporation. They just have to find a little, you know...basically I'm sorry fundamentally if you go up to yeah buzz myself for that when you go up to one of these big corporations and say hey i got an idea let me talk to your marketing department we have where as we've started a non-profit called meatless monday And we think you would be a great partner for us. So, we could really help people to understand that in the progressive stock people who don't need meat are really helping to save the earth and it would benefit your brand image." One of the interesting things about that bit is that besides the fact that it does occur, is the way that corporations are so easily leveraged when you use social media... Yes

1:41:47 as the fulcrum, because they all know that social media is important. None of them have a clue about it and they talk to maybe a few agencies but they figure an old PR agency... That's a problem that they have by the way, the old PR agencies. They had to start new PR agencies under their banners that look like they specialize in this sort of thing. It's a con The social media thing is the biggest con I've ever seen. So here's one, how much money do you need? Oh we're gonna have like a social media website and we're gonna have a lot of big presence on Twitter by the way you look at some of these social media experts and they're all over Twitter. Social Media Expert

1:42:30 You see it on Twitter all the time. I saw that in some article a social media expert and consultant had her Facebook blocked, she's like this is a problem! I'm a social media expert i need to be able to communicate with my clients you look at these people on twitter social media expert and they have like 2 500 followers or they have 800 followers yeah they can't even get 10 000 followers But yes, there's somehow social media. If you're a social media expert I want to look at your followers 1 2 3 10 million or you're full of crap! Anyway... Another organization which we easily could have come up with this scam grayisgreen.org Gray with an E or A? Learn more. Gray is Green is the leading environmental education advocacy and action organization for older adults

1:43:32 America's greenest generations are calling for cleaner, healthier living. Affiliations? Well gee... AARP who of course pay them, Pan North America Green Faith, Center for Humans and Nature. Calculate your household carbon footprint and get tips on reducing carbon pollution! Calculate your households carbon footprint. Yeah Hey, the poop project. What is this? The poop project. I haven't seen it. The poop project? Nonsense! Thepoopproject.org. The Poop Project is a grassroots organization pushing for change from the bottom up We create art social media and educational experiences that heal the cultural shame keeping potty talk taboo

1:44:18 What yeah our work promotes critical conversations about sustainable sanitation for the person planet and world community The poop project is a fiscally sponsored parody no Onion, no the poop project is a fiscally sponsored nonprofit through fractured Atlas. This is a real-life This is a real organization that is on the Climate March website, John. The Poop Project is dedicated to... Oh I already read that part. Why talk about poop? For our bodies rather than accepting a world that makes us feel guilt for doing something everybody does we could be creating a world that's hospitable to the reality of having a body and all its needs. Don't poop! The problem- We have become disconnected from our bodies. The problem is we poop! Don't poop ladies! Stop pooping!

1:45:09 Stop there's no reason to poop if you leave it in there long enough that'll finally digest itself Yeah, it's been a while but finally I feel like can play this jingle again detective dookie This is real people. This is what we does real money that is going to this real money real money. This is like comedy, this list. Comedy! So I looked at one of the names on the list, the world population connect dot org and it's a population connection. Everyone should look at this list and just start clicking away because there's...I don't know what do you think? There's a thousand

1:46:00 I was in organizations listed and all that they're all gonna be marching. I'm looking at population connect org now yeah, and you look at the map and the map of they have a map of where people are growing too many people and Exactly right where the Ebola is It's zeroed in perfect to me people sorry Greater, there's this total fertility rate and they have a map of the world. And you have less than two which is like most of the world apparently. Oh look over to the right John! They have a little banner there... World Of 7 Billion A Project Of Population Education. And you click on that... WorldOf7Billion This is... it's www.WorldOf7Billion.org oh my goodness These people want to kill Africans Yeah that's what I'm

1:46:48 We've been saying on this show. But now, but I just found this so you link out...I could do a whole show about it. I'm not saying the world of 7 billion. On the right hand side? Oh yeah! And then you click on that and then you have to go to WorldOf7Billion.org and The World Of Seven Billion Contest is a project of population education program provider K-12 classroom resource they're teaching children to kill other children Hey, this is a contest. You want to...should we take a look in the...? An honorable mention on population education's World of 7 Billion student video. There's a student video you got to get ahold of? I have it right here. Oh play! Climate change and how to slow it down. This is the first place winner might as well have a little listen one minute 15 seconds climate change how to slow it down first place climate change category world of seven billion student video contest May 2014

1:47:42 That's a cow farting. Green gas, that was gas- No! I'm telling you start this video there is a cow farting and the fart turns into a cloud of methane Yes! And i'll read what's in it... I'm not kidding you here did you hear? The cow farts Listen yeah let's start again here we go It farts and the cloud says greenhouse gas methane. Oh, let's get rid of cows What's the next cloud what happened as a Volkswagen Beetle? Greenhouse gas carbon dioxide And there's brown smoke black smoke coming out of the back of a red beetle and then there's a factory with a huge big black smokestack and Then the number of people in the world is rapidly increasing

1:48:29 Ominous music, we see buildings growing. So we need more food! Lots of cows lots of cows More industry lots of smokestacks more clouds this means more greenhouse gases Which trap heat inside the atmosphere, we're seeing the thermometer rising. We're seeing s-s-sheets of ice breaking off! The sky is falling! New Orleans underwater extra extra 10 million dead already we can prevent that I'm reading this right off the screen Drive less Now the person's uh eh on a bike Recycle There's bins with plastic bins And the factories are falling down Choose renewable energy and the windmills pop up instead of the factories Plant a tree!! And thats how it ends

1:49:14 Wow, wow. Are you still there? I'm unfortunately have the thing playing on my machine now Okay all right this is actually this is all there's no narrative It's just a bunch of... I think I narrated it perfectly thank you very much Yeah No You would've been good Actually you should have overdubbed your narration Well we haven't! We can just someone can add that to the video and... Music Recycle do all these things Plant a tree. That's the message screw it and that was number one I'm this is all I'm afraid to look at the rarest sort of propaganda to keep everyone enslaved Don't poop don't poop. Don't eat meat Meatless Monday, don't eat me we haven't got enough meat to go around We want to make sure only the rich people can eat the meat here's an idea in their actions Here's an idea no John just as an adult look look look

1:50:09 I know we're lazy. I know we get nothing done, the only thing... You don't get anything done on this show! No yes but in general outside of the show were lazy and it's not just lazy... We are trained to be lazy Well that problem is everything i do everything i see like always related to the show and looking for how can i use this in the show? I'm never thinking how can they make a billion dollars those days are over I dont think about that well you had your shot When I look at this list, I believe it is possible for us to at least manage which means we'll talk about on the show. We can do it and have our meetings on the show.

1:50:52 And we'll get one or two people to run some outfit that we come up with. We'll come up with a name, we'll come up with a strategy... We can do that! It would actually be very easy from the looks of some of these incompetents These guys are rolling in dough and they're complete morons I mean they're really good at manipulating their dumb followers What's Mimi doing? Right now he's probably sleeping How about Eric? Eric is busy Who do we know that could just do this for us? We just tell them what to do. It's like, here is the name go register make it a nonprofit... There is this young kid in England that I use for some web work once and while he's really talented. I don't know. We'll have to think about that identify when we should just put the word out let somebody self-identify. But I also want to make money off of this. Yeah well give ourselves executorship. And consultants were consultant. No, no, I think the other scam is better

1:51:49 You got the 501c4 and then you're making a very small amount of money there, like 100 grand. And then you have the other one to be corporation that was genius and they hire you at a very high rate so you make in 100 here or 500 at the other operation. Yes! Now your talking...and then you have two or three of those bees these guys this is just intertangled web of the same names. And we've done this before, we look at these different companies... Companies? These different- Organizations. Nonprofits. NGOs. Yeah. We look at these different NGOs and you see the same names cropping up all over the place and they're all paying each other money that they scam from these big companies that are glad to give it to them because the big companies don't know social. I can pitch Whole Foods and all that. I can go along on some pitches. I don't mind doing that if it's in Austin,

1:52:42 We can go to Formula One and guilt that we can guilt the formula one people into paying some money How about racing for the green Racing for the green so I go to this Dakota, which is circuit of the Americas Which is our circuit in Austin? Yeah and I guilt them all so we have The Formula One. We have Moto GP and I guilt them into You know yes you're spewing all of this high flammable complete carbon dioxide poison Into the Austin air and will have a gala or

1:53:26 Have a gala before the races and it's by racing for the green, and you know we'll plant some trees from that money Okay, that sounds like a good idea and I think you can have a couple of gimmicks if you bring that up How about this for the gimmick for racing for the green at the end? You could push this across all The racing circuits including NASCAR and the rest of his NASCAR. Oh, do you know they're like this name racing for the green? I like racing for the green but the kicker is the checkered flag at the end is now Green in yes. Yes not black and white. Oh, yes as black indicates carbon

1:54:04 It's the color of carpet. No good, no good is horrible light and hold on one second five four three two one and Bingo boom shaka like a racing for the green org is now ours Good move yeah Yeah, okay. We can work with that Okay in the meantime we pay the rent in different ways This is not a bonanza for us just yet John I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab! On NO AGENDA! Come on In! We do have a few people to thank and probably none of them want us to turn to the dark side

1:54:56 But it's so easy to do, you can see how we just don't...you know we could do it if we wanted too. Right now- Well and let me just say this It's plan B! Well not only plan b but in fact we could do both I like it We could do the dark side because the audience for our show is a limited number of intelligent people And they would be interested in the inside of the... It would make them even better. It would be so meta because we'd actually talk about what were doing on the show and it still work. Meta! No one will call us out, cause all these other people know that they're full of crap

1:55:37 They don't want that. I'm not going to call those guys out, and i don't want anyone looking at my operation. Bill you just be drawing attention to them that's all they're looking for uh-huh They just want attention! Don't look over there please Audrey Symes in Richmond Heights Missouri $123.45 part of the never ending this may be a string we got like three weeks three shows in a row One, two three four five. ITM, Bebop and Rocksteady first off I want to thank for your courage in creating such an amazing show you're so much more than the best podcast in the universe or beyond the best podcasts. And he would like to award his donation to Paige Walden. And ask for a birthday shout out from my good friend who just turned, just turned,

1:56:29 Well, Audrey and I saw just not a him in a her it's two women Audrey and Paige. Oh nice hello girls Anonymous in Denver one two three four five have a green NGO There you go that would actually yeah So what do you do with your spare time as save the earth? I saved the earth What are you doing bitch? I saved the Earth uh-huh Russ in Wildwood Missouri one two three four five Daniel McDonald in Halifax, Canada. $100 now exactly why is this in green? I don't know this somehow PayPal screwed up or something happened and this was for Thursday show and It didn't show up on the spreadsheet and it was just a kale book guy Oh

1:57:23 Yes, ah yes And this is Daniel McDonald. He was very concerned that his donation He saw it removed from his PayPal but did not hear us talk about it so This happens he says hello broadcast professionals why I don't have the financial skills of no agenda Grand Dukes nights and producers I've created accepted artwork for shows 380 457 458 and 646 to selfie awards. Yes, this is true I also created the first draft of the John C. Duvorak kale book, please accept my financial contribution to the show no jingles Please just keep Noah Jenna running Thank You Daniel McDonald in Candanavia and we thank you and We're glad we worked that out Thank You Daniel Holly Fox Robert Doland in Shelby Township Michigan 8888 oh We haven't had that one in a while but always love

1:58:15 And to celebrate our anniversary with the $77.77 donation, we have two people, Scott Waldherr in Rhinelander Wisconsin which I assume is a German town and Sir Rich Leiter in Lincoln Nebraska. Yeah, Rich who is the law professor. And he wants some karma for his daughter Becky. We'll put that at the end of the list. Absolutely Uh, what's Becky up to anyway? She starting labor with her second grand human. Oh my goodness! Grand Human?! Yeah... Oh his grand human resource. His grand human. Right got it. And uh yeah pizza by the way would put you in the labor. Ashley Burton 7373s. Sir Andrew Lemesny which I always pronounce Lemessony

1:59:11 a baron actually in Colorado Springs, Colorado 6345. He's still napping for humanity. Oh well let's see only one left. Kara Rogers 6453 in Frisco Texas uh Kuang Lu in Santa Ana California 60 Joshua Borkland in Casper, Wyoming. Double nickels on the dime the one and only. It's Bjorklund. I said Bjorklund. Cyrus Christian Lake Forest California 5150. He went from boner to donor please do you douche me shout out to DH Hammer and Pocahontas while Sam is still a boner

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2:02:57 Do the birthdays I'd have to mention a little note here for Sir Keith Chamberlain Who will be 73 on the 24th that's coming up this week? I don't think I've ever seen a stranger time in my life. Keep up the good work I've enjoyed your most recent work as I said before, I enjoy it When and when you show Obama is the fool that he is very nice sir Keith And let's say had the other birthday It's your birthday, birthday. I'm Noah Chamberlain. Sir Keith Chamberlin will be 73 on the 24th. Rosalind Furness turns 41 today and Audrey Symes says happy birthday to Paige Walden Happy Birthday from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! It's your birthday yeah

2:03:45 Are you back? I'm not really they changed it who changed what Oh Sonic.net They had this system You could punch in on the phone and it would read It would change your upload download thing and they just changed that or what happened But did you get to talk to other singles in your area No Nevermind leave it for what it is then yeah, I think so okay. Good. I could switch the Comcast connection Let me take a look with this. I always like it when you do that It's it's not the speed. It's the peering at some other bullcrap who knows what it is? It's just it's not really bad just Minor annoyance is not horrible well let me take a look at what it says here

2:04:27 Okay, I can change it. Let me do the changing we changed back as it changes this particular changes were very Very quick quick you do that and I will play a jingle I apparently can't do this either. You can't do that either John. Oh, no you're here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon Just leave it for what it is as far yeah when you talk about the caliphate everybody yes We need before we do that oh a couple of things I want to get out of the way first of all we had a discussion at dinner last night That now I realized that I was right all along

2:05:19 Play the Oktoberfest clip. This was before dinner. Well finally it's called Oktoberfest but it has actually already begun Germany's world famous celebration of beer is underway The mayor of Munich tapping the first barrel on Saturday, the first of many Last year more than 6 million visitors downed 6.7 million litre sized tankards off the amber fluid That's more to put it into context for you than two full Olympic sized swimming pools of beer. So we're driving through San Francisco in the 1993 dusty Lexus, off-white is the color these days. If it was washed its white and we see some babes in lederhosen lots of babes and I'm going Sieg Heil out the window yeah like a fool

2:06:14 They're not I think they're Austrian and What makes you say that? They were probably Americans dressed up like you know these these Bar girls, whatever their call. Well they didn't understand my dialect so Anyway go on and you say it's for Oktoberfest. Let's see but in September oh Yeah, and I said well it's Oktoberfest in San Francisco. He said but you made a big argument about it It's not October so how could it be October? It makes no sense. Apparently yesterday driving around it was indeed officially Oktoberfest or the beginning of it This is very American and stupid But this report was from Germany If you go back if you actually listen to it... No, I didn't realize it was yeah You're right

2:07:04 Well, what how can that be? Well you should now you were asking me last night and I was just telling you the facts and well have we Have we done the work have we? Oktoberfest Wikipedia let me just see if there's an official start to this thing. This is bullcrap 16-day ah oktoberfest is the world's largest fun fair Held annually in Munich Bavaria Germany is a 16 day festival running from late September to the first weekend in October Well, there you go. What do I know? It should be socktober fest as what it says you call it but okay septober I Got a lot of fun stuff to listen to Did you know did you see I got some clips did you see Carrie and

2:08:01 Yes, of course. Okay. I'm talking about Kerry at the Security Council being the president? It was funny! At first I thought is that...is it just a camera angle and the President of the Security Council is off to the left? No, it said President one sign and then right next to United States yeah Yeah he always wanted to be president Did you..I have a little clip here of him exuding his authority I got it. You go first, you go first. Let me play my...I have a couple of clips now. First of all just let's play this clip so we get a feeling for what this meeting was like which was the Security Council guy number one clip. People of Iraq have made their right choice in their stance against ISIL and this council should strengthen our support for their fight

2:08:56 We believe that the voices heard today will bear fruit in the form of a robust international commitment to assist Iraq. Last but not least, we fully support SRST Mladenov and all the staff at UNAMI for their dedication to fulfill their mission. Thank you." Just to remind people that they really go out of their way to find people who are bilingual to help everyone understand them when they try to speak English. Inquire! Yeah, this guy's... So this was the tone most of these guys you couldn't understand a word they said and so the guy from Bahrain comes up he's actually a foreign minister that they invited a bunch of these guys big fat guy

2:09:43 And he's yacking away about... and this whole thing is so boring I think Carrie fell asleep because... Did you see Power behind him, Susan Power? Yeah she's on her BlackBerry the whole time. She's shaking her head on her Blackberry with a leather jacket. This is the guy, this is Bahrain guy goes on and on about stuff he suggests nothing He just blathers on Kerry who apparently fell asleep The guy ends and Kerry's caught off guard And he has to say something So she's like stall my god what should I say? And he just makes up some bull crap There are terrorist groups no less criminal than Daesh operating across the Middle East

2:10:25 from Egypt to Libya, Lebanon and Syria to Yemen to the Gulf. State sponsored terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah and other proxies continue to terrorize and kill innocent people all over the region it is therefore necessary to adopt A holistic approach, as many of us here have said and I've heard my colleagues say. A holistic approach that identifies confronts and eventually defeats terrorists in an effective manner Thank you very much And thank you for the important list of commitments that Bahrain is prepared to make and we all look forward to taking part in that conference. It's going be a very, very important part of success. How are you guys doing with stoning homos?

2:11:17 I now give the floor to his excellency Dr. Khalid bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Qatar and I do so thank you also for the early and defined commitments that Qatar has made already to this effort Yeah, that was funny. This whole thing is... So the way it works and this is Kerry starting off with kind of the roll call These are all the people who were invited to participate in our coalition of the willing And the Netherlands who were very upset about not being in the you recall I mentioned what

2:11:59 We gotta be a part of this! What are you talking about? This is crazy. We have the military industrial complex, we make stuff, we make meals... Our industry needs to be apart of this bonanza." So here's Kerry starting kicking off the session talking about everybody and this rule 37 that he gets to, because he's the president. He gets to talk about rule 37. Given the press of business for everybody in this chamber is a statement in and of itself about the importance of the matter that is under discussion so we're deeply grateful not just behalf our invitation

2:12:43 But to all the countries that have understood the responsibility and the seriousness of this moment, we express our great gratitude to everyone. In accordance with Rule 37 of the Council's Provisional Rules of Procedure I invite the representatives of Albania, Bahrain, Belgium, Canada, Denmark Egypt, Finland Germany, Georgia Iraq The Islamic Republic of Iran Italy Japan Lebanon The Netherlands Norway Oman Poland Qatar Saudi Arabia Spain Turkey And the United Arab Emirates to participate in this meeting It is so decided. IT IS SO DECIDED!

2:13:29 He loves doing that. Let me wave my magic wand! It is so decided, I John F Kerry have said it is so decided as predicted you heard the name in there we knew that this was going to happen uh Iran is going to be a player and this will be very interesting to watch must be comprehensive and include close collaboration across multiple lines of effort. Multiple? It's about taking out an entire network, decimating and discrediting a militant... This is different than what the president said! The president says degrading and destroying he says decimating and hold on a second

2:14:14 Discrediting. Well decimating of course means only taking out 10% Only 10%. Yeah, decimating and discrediting. Decimating and discrediting? That's different. I'll say! We're only going to chop you down by ten percent. And decimating and degradation could be the same. Ten percent degradation in sound quality... That could be a ten percent but it's not that-that's just uh that's a glitch decimating and de- and... decimating and discrediting. You've got no credits here! Isis, you have no credits with me. You have no credit here. Decimating and discrediting a militant cult masquerading as a religious movement. The fact is there is a role for nearly every country in the world to play

2:15:05 Yeah, including Iran. Hey Uh-huh he said it yeah Okay now of course this is going on you know we got your ran instead of Iran He's not a player. He's a douche You just doing what he's told to do but oh stop John we have three very word York in here The governor of New York says he is stepping up security measures and mass transit sites in New York City and its suburbs. Andrew Cuomo said he's doing so because of the potential for increased threats from turmoil overseas As a precaution they're stepping forward, look they're very concerned A lot of terrorism experts say they have not seen this kind of chatter since pre 9-11 Chatter? Woo! The governor says even though there are no current credible threats that the city should be on high alert No credible threats but all the chatter it's the highest amount of chatter

2:15:53 Oh shit, but okay fine Finally we have an answer if you need to know something about the media. Where do you turn John? If I needed no site turned a Wikipedia Huh if he needs it if you need answers about the media if your let's just let's just say for a moment You are an intellectual You watch Rachel Maddow. If you were lesbian, you'd marry her." Oh yeah for sure! What program audio would tell you about the media and help you understand the media? Media matters How about on the media I mean on the media that's what i meant from NPR That runs on Sunday. I listen to it when I'm driving up to do The Twitch Show And here is the question that has answered why... Is it ISIS? IS IT ISIL

2:16:51 Is it IS? Why does the media say ISIS and why does the administration say ISIL. This is a question that we've been asking ourselves On the media answers this question 90% of Americans believe that ISIS or ISIL Islamic State poses a threat to the US This is great news according to a recent CNN poll Hey, Mark. Let that be the first question. Okay? Mark Lynch is director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at George Washington University So mark what should we be calling this entity well well i think you should be calling it by says because i think that that actually better captures what the group understands about itself the administration has chosen to use the phrase ice all atomic state of iraq and a lot of on which uh... i think they see as a way of translating asham which is what the s stands for an item that doesn't resonate with how anybody in the region understand that or how the group uh... understand itself i think that at

2:17:50 terminology is very problematic because ultimately there is a battle to define what this group is. And that's a big part of the politics of trying to confront it." There you go, shut up! It doesn't tell me anything. No, it tells you that the people running the media which this group clearly does...this George Washington universe all spies, all CIA crap they're telling the media what to use I think it's... Oh, you think this is part of the never-ending struggle between agencies and Obama and the CIA? Possibly. So they decided to put a line in the sand. Possibly. Yeah, it's possible. It's marketed.

2:18:39 We noticed it and every time I'm watching anything or even getting clips, it just stands out like a sore thumb. I think any media organization should be ashamed of themselves if they are not using the term the President of the United States and administration uses you are fundamentally not talking about the same thing and that makes no sense So now the media is showing we're above the president. We know what to, we're right. We know what they call it? Now let's just talk for a quick moment about this coalition of the willing and what is really taking place here as you may have heard the following report Earlier France carried out its first air strike inside Iraq attacking IS forces in the northeast of the country. Hugh Schofield reports from Paris. So France has joined the United States in carrying the fight against Islamic State

2:19:28 The French military released these pictures after two Rafale fighters operating at the French base in Abu Dhabi hit and destroyed what was described as an IS logistics base near Mosul. President Hollande said it was just a beginning, more strikes against targets in Iraq will follow in the coming days. Do you know what this is? This is a sales pitch! They've been trying to sell this Raphael jet which is made by DeSalt, huge corporation and it's... made entirely in France. They've been trying to sell this to Arab countries for 20, 10 years at least and then they show this cool video on the top... This is a promotional video! Well this would be why we had the clip I think we played it with Oland in Baghdad out of the blue Yes and this is also making up for selling the ships to Russia Right Yeah well I don't know I think they're selling the ship's to Russia that get a pass on that I don't think you're making up for anything I think what I think you nailed

2:20:29 plain and simple. We have to put the, we have to show these planes... One of the problems that a lot of these countries that make these jets I mean Sweden makes fighter jets too is that they go around so well we haven't seen your jets in action this American over here has shoot in fact there they're bombing somebody right now and they're making movies of it yeah And so the French just said, okay well we have to get in on this. And they sent Olan to visit Baghdad the new guy and say we'll take out some of these guys for you but we gotta film it! So we'll have a jet behind this jet and it will be shooting it. This was stocked footage I already had this. Cool flying information. I would shoot fresh footage if it was me. What does it cost?

2:21:18 I have a trailer, you know, trailing jet and it's shooting the whole thing. It'd be beautiful! There is a barrel roll... Look at that thing go! It's beautiful and it's very nice looking jet Yeah, it is So there's new video out from the makers of the previous Beheadings And they're very fun to see this The new video was not a beheading we'll get into in a moment But the blueprint for the previous beheading videos appears to be either directly lifted from or created by a Turkish film director and Everyone needs to go to the following URL Wow Okay, I need to get some 40 wd-40 no this is a very short clip. What's the give me that website? itm dot iam slash

2:22:20 director and This video you'll see it at about 33 seconds in you, and this is a trailer for a Turkish drama TV series And it's thirty three seconds in of course could be any better than that You will see check it out first either got hammering in now watch. It's just a couple frames Here it comes, 5 4 3 2 1 and the door opens and you're gonna see some sand bunnies. And boom! There it is! Freeze frame right there a guy in an orange jumpsuit on his knees. A terrorist- Holy crap who found this? It's going around. It's goin' around... There it is and there hand pen knife from the left hand The balaclava

2:23:20 The whole is exactly the same. Yes, huh? Uh-huh yeah that that's what that was the same reaction I had before and It's unbelievable Yeah there's a guy who seemed to think or she not miked but uh and yeah How awesome is this Yeah, and they're on green screen. They're not done. No! You can tell It's the same set, same actors Well it's a different set I mean its a different green screen Different background yeah Different background everything else is the same So this guy even looks like the same guy I'm telling you its the same outfits, the same costumes

2:24:08 I know, it's mind-boggling. Of course we know that 94% of the American public has heard of the video and not actually seen the video but they believe it. There is another interesting aspect to this which is a guy who is so called Jihad Johnny or whatever his name is You know, we never actually see him say anything. No you just hear the...you know.. You hear him but he could be doing nothing because he's got his face covered up so they could put that in post What message do you think we need for this guy Bill? Well, we need a guy with a British accent and I gotta...we're gonna have to script kiddies They'll come out there and write something up for us I have an idea! Let's sweeten that video Yeah, there ya go

2:24:56 Just can't get enough of that sound effect anyway, so there's a new video out and Find whoever found that is deserves kudos This is the YouTube's New video comes out I'm looking for the new video because I want to see the new video. I need you know what's going on with the video I bump up against a video from those heroes the most watched podcast, the best podca- video podcast in the gl- in the world! In the whole universe. TYT The Young Turks Oh yeah those guys This is Chunk's outfit

2:25:35 Not Chunk who's talking and I think so. Just let it play as if maybe they got the video And here's what they say Isis has released yet another hostage of video in this case with the British journalist John Cantley For once he is not being held, you know on his knees or weapons to his head He's behind a desk We're not going to be showing you the video But we do have a few cool from it because we want you to understand the context and what differentiates this Now why are you not gonna show me the video? TYT Why can't you show me the video? Is it so... is it secret, is it so horrible, is it too long?" No. It's three minutes long and I'm going to play the audio for you because it is important what is being said here. I love this guy's name, Cantlie. The way I saw him before I heard anyone pronounce that, I was laughing. So the guy's name is John Cantlie Are you kidding me?! This is a great name! Cantlie

2:26:33 And he is now in a hangar, darkened hangar and he is reading his script. I find it important for us all to listen because this is a teaser! This is not anything other than a teaser for a new television show that's what this is and I'd like us to listen to this together Hello, my name is John Cantlie. I'm a British journalist who used to work for some of the bigger newspapers and magazines in the UK including The Sunday Times, The Sun and The Sunday Telegraph. I found this interesting by itself that a journalist needs to...I don't know but I guess he didn't write it but this is pretty much straight off the Wikipedia page

2:27:21 And in 2012 he was kidnapped along with our other friend, the original guy Foley. So why Foley's head got cut off and this guy is alive is a mystery, other than I'm thinking they're all alive and they're all having a good laugh about this. And oh yes! I am an incredibly important photojournalist. They were making a movie together, I might add. Foley and this guy were making a movie about his spectacular escape from the first time he was abducted. So they have movie-making skills just pointing that out In November 2012, I came to Syria where I was subsequently captured by the Islamic State. Now nearly two years later many things have changed including the expansion of the Islamic state to include large areas of eastern Syria and western Iraq a landmass bigger than Britain and many other nations Why

2:28:20 Why this language? And many other nations. What is the point of that?" I have no idea. I don't either! I'd like to point out again, the microphone is neatly dressed underneath his shirt so they took some time... He's wearing orange. Now, now know what you're thinking You're thinking he's only doing this because he's a prisoner. He's got a gun in his head and he's being forced to do this right Uh, no! I don't see a gun. Well it's true...I am a prisoner that I cannot deny but seeing as i've been abandoned by my government and my fate now lies in the hands of the Islamic State

2:29:02 I have nothing to lose. Maybe i will live and maybe I will die, but I want to take this opportunity To convey some facts that you can verify Facts that if you contemplate might help preserving lives Over the next few programs. I'm going to show you the truth as the Western did you hear that? Yeah over the next few programs right No one has mentioned this, that this is a series. I didn't know it until you played this clip! Media tries to drag the public back to the abyss of another war with Islamic State after two disastrous and hugely unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq Why is it that our governments appear so keen to get involved in yet another unwinnable conflict?

2:29:56 I'm going to show you the truth behind these systems and motivation of the Islamic State. Is this an Alex Jones production or something? Are they just selling seeds?! Keep playing and how the Western media the very organization I used to work for can twist and manipulate that truth Interesting how he calls the Western media. The very organization He used to work for us if it's one organization just pointing that out Yeah, that's a good catch for the public back home There are two sides to every story Think you're getting the whole picture And I'll show you the truth behind what happened when many European citizens were imprisoned and later released by the Islamic State, and how the British and American governments thought they could do it differently to every other European country. They negotiated with the Islamic State and got their people home while the British and Americans were left behind

2:30:58 It's very alarming to see where this is all headed, and it looks like history repeating itself yet again. There is time to change this seemingly inevitable sequence of events but only if you the public act now Join me for the next few programs and I think you may be surprised at what you learn. And that's it, join me right after the break! You need some dramatic music behind this, this production is cheap Yeah it's poorly done But it sounds like they're doing a series, you know. This is a pilot! That's what it sounds like to me. No one has mentioned this... I've only heard- Well that's because they wouldn't play the damn clip on The Chunk Show with Young Turks who can't play this clip because there's actually important information. Important information has come to light We can't give you that kind of information? This is no good?!

2:31:53 I'm sorry, i wasn't fast enough with it. I noticed It's not easy when I'm on the road But I'll play it anyway just to make you feel better. I've got information man new shit has come to light So how do we respond to that in the United States? To this chilling new video and be aware You will hear the chilling video The haunting words Really, it's just a poorly written script to promote their series. But no one said he's gonna be killed. He's not going to kill me even though...he said there's actually way we could turn all this back and I'm gonna show you how. It is gonna be the narrator for some propaganda stuff it's gonna be great! Do you think perhaps that in this video he's saying that the media is full of crap? That they're not playing it for us? Is that perhaps the reason? That message is in there too yeah well he said

2:32:45 When he blasted the BBC or wherever it was that he generalized about, and he kind of hinted that everyone's... Well, of course we've known that. Most of our producers know that but the public at large know they won't pay any attention to any of this. And nobody is going to... What we just did playing that clip as a public service. No, no one's done. Even the Young Turks, the best podcast on video and the Young Turks and the great thing about it is that especially the Young Turks they would have gotten about five or ten minutes of material out of it like we're doing

2:33:21 Yeah, we're like boot doing. We can get five to ten minutes out of content here! This is pure gold! How could you miss this? It's crazy! You guys are leaving your profits on the floor Because the guy from The Young Turks didn't watch the video either He just said some producers said look we got a fit this into an eight minute segment We got a little bit of conversation I'm just... Don't want to over do the C block like he guys did last time That operation is run just like a TV show yeah It is a TV show. No, but yeah well in some ways we're a radio show but we don't have these kinds of false limitations no oh you gotta wrap it we only got a minute left if you got a minute left can you summarize all you only get 30 seconds give me a break here and we're in the 21st century how do you only have thirty seconds that's all I never needed yeah yeah you have thirty seconds because you've got to get to this clip

2:35:22 So this weird creepy smile on his face throughout the commercial, I would recommend people to watch this commercial. Watch his smile! It's an inappropriate smile kind of thing you know right? Anyway yeah so you got 30 seconds so we can get to this guy. So instead of doing that guy i have another guy a couple clips here from a very interesting take on what we should be doing to change not just our attitudes, not just our policy but our actual constitution to combat this threat from the sand. And here is Alan Dershowitz famous famous lawyer who has written a book Tunnels of Terror and...

2:36:14 Tunnels of Terror! Nah, you're not doing that right. Hold on... Yeah. Tunnels of Terror! Gimme some exo! Yeah hold on try it again. Tunnels of Terror! T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t that in order to combat ISIS we have to change the Constitution. Let's talk about this sir, the key question that America has been debating for 13 years now which is safety... The key question? What have we been debating for thirteen years? Thirteen years?! What have we been debating for thirteen years? I don't know! We've been debating whether she should have a job. Let's talk about this sir, the key question that America has been debating for thirteen years now which is safety at what cost? I mean address that. Is there ever

2:37:16 a clear line to be drawn between keeping the majority of people safe and individual privacy rights? The reason our constitution has survived longer than any constitution is it's adaptable. And it has to adapt to the new threats of terrorism, we have to make some changes. We can't be operating as if were still in the 18th or 19th century and so I don't think we have to compromise our rights, I think we have to adapt them to the new realities. We may have to keep people confined in detention, even though we can't give them all the full due process rights. If they're bragging that they're going to go back and commit acts of terrorism, we may have to control passports a little bit more than we have in the past if people are going to train to come back to the United States to blow up Times Square. Has Times Square been blown up? It's just rubble!

2:38:09 What major terrorism acts have we witnessed since the 9-11 incident? This is the only one you can really refer to. But he is talking about changing the Constitution so that you have no due process if you brag about coming back. Yes, this another attack of freedom of speech! D'ya think?! Big time. Now he's going to- You're like those idiots, remember these guys this was years ago? Those boneheads that were in Milwaukee or something and they're just a bunch of dumb fucks. Oh about blowing up the bridge? They gonna blow something up and then they were all gonna meet in Florida they never had didn't even have a gun. They couldn't come out, they couldn't get anything together And then they arrested him and then they couldn't prove anything against them because they are just idiots

2:38:54 You know what, the country's just a population. We got 300 million people plus there's a bunch of dummies in this country and they will say stupid stuff. And they will get voted off the island now let's listen to Dershowitz who is going to compare ISIS ISIL ISIL IS to Hamas. Hamas! And their...and the famous Hamas strategy Do you know what that strategy is? To feed the poor and bomb the rich. You know, in my book I mention that Justice Brennan a long time ago went to Israel and when he came back he said there's only one country we could learn how to balance civil liberties against the fight against terrorism. Israel has been doing it for 50 years. That sounds like a winner to me John! I think we should be just like Israel They've been doing it tolerably well

2:39:42 We can learn a lot, particularly ISIS is now emulating Hamas. And so we have to learn also how to fight that kind of terrorism without compromising our liberty. In the prospect of using human shields you talked about that was exactly what's happening in Gaza with Hamas. Talk about the difficulties of going through that and understanding where the lines are drawn there? Well ISIS is gonna embed its fighters among civilians because it will emulate Hamas' dead baby strategy. What Hamas does... I love that! This is a dead baby strategy. Surely you know of the bishops pawn to F5, but this is the dead baby strategy. This is very abhorrent to listen to this guy talk about it.

2:40:29 puts Israel to the terrible choice. Either allow our rockets to kill your civilians, allow our tunnels to kill your civilians or respond and you'll kill our civilians we'll be ready with TV cameras to hold up the dead babies and you will look terrible in court of public opinion ISIS is doing the same thing they're hiding their soldiers among civilians in urban areas and we will have to choose whether not to fire at them what a fire fire at them knowing there'll be some civilian casualties. Well, in terms of firing the targeted killings now I mean is that something of a preferred method of going about assassination? It's the best method if you can really target the leaders and not kill civilians instead of blanket carpet bombing if you can isolate who the leaders are who the terrorists are and you can get them targeted killing is so much better than untargeted killing This guy's a lunatic!

2:41:18 Targeted killing is so much better than untargetted killing. You still kill some people! And yet Israel gets condemned for doing it? Crazy, they condemn us over here with Hamas! The United States will be condemned for doing it one of the big red herrings is we killed an American citizen Big deal when an American citizen goes over and becomes a combatant on the other side like many did in Germany and in Japan more in Germany than in Japan during the Second World War Is that true Did people defect to Germany? To go fight with the Germans against America? Probably some Germans did. And Japan? Did people go to Japan? No, the Japanese that were here most of them did not do that. We locked them up! Well we moved them into internment camps and many of them decided to join the army and they allowed him to fight in the European campaign I think he's full of crap this Dershowitz This can't be true He's crazy, he's completely insane He's talking casually about killing people dead babies

2:42:15 It's like this is not thoughtful. And I'm, let me just see... Lock everybody up and throw away the key is what he's saying! I think I messed this clip up you got-I want to play this last bit from it. In the age of credible threats and high I messed it up. Hold on, let me just get this...I can shuttle it to the end You gotta hear his take on torture He's been killings now Is that something of a preferred method of going about? We'll be condemned for doing it One of the big red herrings is we killed an American citizen Big deal! It's coming right after this you've got to listen to this Goes over and becomes a combatant on the other side like many did in Germany And in Japan more than during the second world war

2:42:50 They lose their special status as American citizens. They're just combatants and we're entitled to go after them To the point of not allowing those who go over to the Middle East Now get ready for this reportedly to train, to re-enter the country? And what are your thoughts on that We should make it a crime! To go abroad, to train, to do harm to the United States Then we can welcome them back with open arms and closed bars and put them in jail. But we can't just let them go train, they come back holding their American passport or their European passport there are 500 ISIS fighters with EU passports who can easily come into the United States. We have to adapt the law to the new reality What law do we need to adapt?

2:43:33 You won't believe his answer. Do you think it is possible to approach these debates, sir without emotions inherently becoming involved in them? Attached to things like terrorism privacy religious beliefs and freedom There's no way I mean these are highly emotional issues take the issue of torture which i write about both in my book and in the column should we ever under any circumstances use torture My answer is No Yeah, no My answer is NO but I think were gonna use it And if we're going to use it, we better have procedures in place to make sure that no low-level CIA agent can do it without the approval of the highest authority in the United States. So he is, in fact, advocating for torture! Yeah but has to be approved by the president

2:44:14 Well, he approves killing. He goes on this thing about American was killed big deal because there are... Does that really explain the killing of the 16-year old? Big deal! In a cafe. Hey, oy, he's an A-Reb. That's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing a very racist cocksucker. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, I think that's what he is but hmmm. Alright. What else? I am done with it too. I do have a couple of crazy stories. Okay, let's play this. This is the you know that apparently the ISIS ISIL people the ISIL we're gonna stick with ISIL. Somebody said ISIL did you hear this guy? That's Rice. Rice says that Susan Rice as well somebody else said ISIL in Congress yeah so again guess they've rousted they went to Aleppo and they rousted a bunch of Kurds and so here's the background story which is these Syrian Kurds part one

2:45:15 Welcome back to the France Fan Cat newsroom. Well, over 60,000 Syrian Kurds poured into Turkey since Friday fleeing intense clashes in the north Syrian province of Aleppo there the Islamic State group is said to have seized some 63 villages in a lightning offensive and it's trying to take control of more towns along the border local Kurdish fighters are trying to push them back But for now, the violence is just pushing more civilians to flee. Gallagher Fenwick is on the Turkish side of the border where refugees are arriving by busload. Alright so there's a bunch of buses apparently but they're showing up in Turkey. The Turks don't like this obviously. They had enough problems dealing with these guys Now I was listening to part two when they do their report and this complaint that guy has which I thought was a little bit weak

2:46:08 Their faces covered in dust, Kurdish Syrian refugees walk around aimlessly. They fled to Turkey after fighters of the Organization of the Islamic State threatened their towns. We're refugees we don't know where were going. We are moving one step at a time Do you know how far have been walking? Maybe 5 or 10 kilometers The guy walked five miles, which I think a lot of joggers around here do on a daily basis. Not to sound like Russell. That would be the 10 kilometers is about five miles? Right yeah actually ten kilometers is actually five kilometers is about two and a half mile no about three three and a half I think

2:46:56 But this doesn't sound... To get to San Francisco at 17 miles and I can see the city from here. This is not a big... It doesn't sound like these guys are... This is not walking across Africa! That totally sucks, dude! And you get some other country? This is a guy walking three miles and he's bitching?! That blows man Don't know I just found that to be very strange and then nobody you know it where were you? I was over there, and you walked all the way over here. Yeah hold two-and-a-half three miles I think I don't know what I'm gonna do well you can walk back Hey John Dewey almost seconds hmm. Where is it? Did you have something else oh we couldn't we can probably just do this do you want to quickly

2:47:51 That's tech news that it's horrible gin is terrible what happened yeah, we do have some technique I had a good one. Oh where's the where's the good tech news? Tech news. We had like a whole thing with the tech grouch. Yeah, you had it I didn't have it. You know what's happened to it? What you push a button and boom here It comes okay now let's try this button then iPhone users you're gonna know how is gone. It's just gone my tech news jingles are gone Oh, you'll get him back when he gets back to Texas

2:48:30 Alright, so the Apple brought out their phones. This is a tech news. I'm gonna try it Okay, Apple brought out the phones yeah, and here's a report from some guy. Oh you have a report Yeah, apple waiting in line report Yeah, very important. In just the first 24 hours that is about twice the iPhone 5 initial sales numbers Still those looking for new iPhones right now had to try and buy them the old-fashioned way standing in line at The Apple Store from coast to coast around the world we saw Apple customers sitting for hours if not days I can tell you at The Apple Store here behind me in Palo Alto California the first customer actually got here a

2:49:10 On Tuesday. Sarah, back to you. They're still in line today! These people are nuts Why are you in line people? Yesterday there was still a line outside of the Apple Store here by near Union Square and people waiting in line to get in and get their fix Their involuntary social network disorder It's not okay But on this tip Two things happened with Netflix I found very interesting One Netflix now under severe pressure from Hollywood to ban the use of VPNs, virtual private network. Why? Because people from unauthorized regions are watching Netflix movies through the VPNs. Oh horrors! Tell me it's not so! And of course it's... The only way to block VPN usage is at the ISP level I predict this will be Unlawful Network Traffic

2:50:13 Oh yeah, that's a good call. In fact it is already unlawful network traffic and you can play this tech news clip... Iranian kids! Hold on a second... Very interesting stat here. Okay doesn't really say Iranian but I gotcha A report conducted by Iran's Ministry of Youth and Sports polling 15,000 15 to 29 year olds found that the 23 million young Iranians regularly using the internet Over 69% are also using circumvention technology to bypass government-imposed censorship. Figures illustrate a strong desire for greater online freedoms, despite the authorities' repeated attempts at implementing a filtering system for online content. But this thirst for freedom comes with significant risks. As the website for Iran's Cyber Police points out anyone found using or distributing this circumvention technology which is banned in Iran will be severely punished

2:51:05 So it's gonna happen here. Severely punished, will be stoned! Now they have a... They showed the patch? They actually have cyber police and these guys they got uniforms they have this patch and I guess they go into internet cafes and see what people are looking at That's great Yeah Meanwhile because of a filing with the FCC Not the FCC with the SEC filing Netflix is now being accused by... who's accusing? Fred Campbell, director of Center for Business Boundless Innovation in Technology. Another front group is claiming that because of the amendment to their financial filing of August 25th

2:52:03 that read, globally Netflix delivers its traffic without payments to 99% of terminating access networks. That Netflix purposely and knowingly slowed its video streaming service with the attention of blaming internet service providers which I believe to be true. Well that would be Comcast That's what they target for this other thing because Comcast refuses to... Comcast is actually the net neutral operation. That's the irony of this whole argument, because Comcast was delivering the Netflix uh... feeds the way they deliver everybody else's fees except for their own of course they have a movie rental service but that beside the point everybody else is fair for you know voodoo and insane netflix in and then netflix of course has these boxes these internet appliances at all the ice piece put an in there

2:52:57 at the home office and it increases this throughput. So yeah, they could do that just to make a point. This guy, this Fred Campbell who wrote this, who... CBIT.org Center for Boundless Innovation in Technology another great scam Fred Campbell, director of the Center... Nobody works anymore. No this guy works he just collects checks is real hard work I mean nobody works at a manufacturing job Mr. Campbell was formerly a fellow and director of the Communications Liberty and Innovation Project at the Competitive Enterprise Institute my god why are we still wasting our time on a podcast

2:53:34 President and CEO of Wireless Communications Association International, Chief of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau at the FCC. Here's some quotes. Fred's work on complex technology policy... Oh! Fred Campbell's counsel was invaluable in helping me craft a pro-investment free market policy for the FCC I had the privilege of working with Fred during his time at the FCC and saw firsthand how skillfully he handled some of the most challenging issues confronting the Commission. Fred's work on complex technology issues it's first-rate, he's smart, diligent and effective." What are these LinkedIn recommendations? What are you reading? These...I'm reading from his website these are Oh! He puts it on his own website okay This is industry people telling you that he's great to hire Yeah

2:54:24 It's just gross, man. It's just gross how people are making money and starting up little bullcrap NGOs and duping everybody. Let's save the Internet! Save the Internet! Fucking morons... I have one last clip because this is happening today. This is the big Afghani scam They decided to take the elections and say, well you two guys are going to have to work this out among yourselves. And here's what they finally decided. Afghanistan's rival presidential candidates have ironed out a power-sharing deal just ahead of the release of final vote count in elections that were held in June. A result that those men say they will now respect after previous claims of fraud

2:55:10 Ashrafi Ghani is expected to take the title of president with Abdullah Abdullah, then it's allowed to pick the man possibly himself to be the next chief executive officer. Kassirin Clifford explains It was a record voter turnout on June 14th as 7 million Afghans went to cast their ballot. However, it wasn't to be a straightforward election One of the two presidential candidates Abdullah Abdullah accused his rival Ashraf Ghani of fraud and called for vote counting to be suspended In July provisional results put Ghani in the lead with 56

2:55:46 6% of the vote, results which Abdullah immediately challenged. As concerns grew for a descent into the ethnic tensions that sparked civil war in the country in 1990s US Secretary of State John Kerry met with the two candidates and brokered a deal between them. With respect to national unity Both candidates have agreed to abide by the results of the audit and that the winner of the election will serve as president and will immediately form a government of national unity. Two months later, the audits now finished and definitive results are due to be announced this Sunday by the Electoral Commission The two sides say they agree 100% on all points

2:56:31 settled the final details of an agreement to share power, whatever the outcome. Good work John Kerry! You couldn't get your guy in 100% but I think he did a fine job. He's half-in. Well half is good enough. Yeah well... Good work! The other guy will go along with the program it looks like. I think it's just blasted good work I say. Good work people. Ah okay alright As always Jean-Claude Lovely speaking with you. You can call me Chuck John That's right all Johns are now Chuck deal with it I will be returning back to FEMA region 6 Here if floating around you look very comfortable, he actually liked the crowded streets and amused by that

2:57:31 It was fun. It felt great, it felt like a real metropolitan area. Well its always nice when you have a driver Yeah in an old car Coming to you from downtown San Francisco Risking life and limb with two guardians of reality In the same FEMA region at the same time In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from not downtown San Francisco actually northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak. We- okay Chuck, we'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda! See you then! Science! We believe in science! Science! Shut up already... Science! Science! Adios mofo. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n a