Carbon Credits and the CIA

00:01 well we made it up until two thousand nine and we're not dead yet so hey i i guess there's another year worth of no agenda coming to you from get my own nation east in southwest london i'm adam curry so that's right stephanie like i did with me and i ended the last show so i i deserve that one uh... and john c duvall accurate and uh... silicon valley north also known as good rotation west and uh... so i get more nation shirts by the way a t-shirt sir through we're not selling them anymore we've got a new design coming next week okay so they're now officially collectors items i don't even have one myself well you're probably not going to get one now also because the shipping is that the united kingdom is annual amir forty five dollars it's ridiculous well you know i think you know that i had a ship off uh...

00:55 All my editors, I had to send them some stuff. It cost like five times more to ship it to the United. I don't know why. I mean, I think I could have FedExed it cheaper. Do you think that has anything to do with import on textiles? Is that the main reason? There must be some reason. It must be taxes, not just shipping. Oh yeah, it must be. Now that you mention it. Makes nothing but sense. Because there's lots of stuff that if you, you know, Patricia does this all the time, she'll, she used to order from linens and things, oops, that doesn't happen anymore. Now they're out of business. And they should be like, oh look at all these, because it's very hard to get sheets for a king size 2 meter 20 bed or whatever it is that we have. And she'll order it and then, you know, it'd be like really cheap. And then, you know, it shows up, it's like, oh you owe, you know, 35 pounds on a linen set or something.

01:51 So it has to be something like that. Hey man, I'm in the new place. Oh you are? Do you have your new collection? I'm sorry? The new connection. You're breaking up. Yeah, it's the new connections, it's the new studio, it's as of about half an hour ago I would say complete. It's audio, video production, all built into one. It's kind of like a floor wax and a dessert topping. And for the first in a long time, all my routing, all my connections are actual wires. You sound good. Thank you. It's also, I got a different microphone. I have... Well, what are you using? Oh, okay. I'm using the... The hell if I know.

02:40 this is the... coming from a pro. It doesn't even say... this is a mic that we shouldn't say. It does have the Radio Shack logo though. No, it's a... what was... it wasn't Realistic. What was the other... Realistic, that's for Radio Shack. I know, but they had another one. They had like an upscale brand name. Maximus or something like that? No, it was something else. It'll hit me in a second. It's an MXL-2010. I have no idea who makes it. It kind of looks like a... You know, it's a studio mic. It looks like... It's a condenser by the way, so it needs external power.

03:21 And I'm running it through my Yamaha NG12, no, NG124CX mixer. The cool thing though is I've got good processing now, so I've really enhanced the Skype connection. You sound really, really much better than you've ever sounded on the broadcast right now. Hold on a second, I'm typing this code in here to see if there's any... So I'm running you I'm running your next to a citizen MX. Oh to the no 2 0 1 0 MX l2 0 1 0 MX l and XL Mike x-ray Lima So I'm running you through a what is Marshall? No, I could have harmony it could be an XL. I

04:09 It's an MXL. Exactly! From Radio Shack. MXL Microphones. Products, Microphones, MXL. So I'm running you through a compressor, limiter, gate, and an Apex 204. Oh, you're using an Apex? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The big bottom Apex? Yeah, the big bottom. Yeah, big bottom. I have one of those but I never hooked it up. You don't have to because I've hooked it up on my end. It sounds beautiful. And we've got the nice cast running. Now I was all ready to hook in calls. Just so you know, I actually have Skype running on a separate machine now. So it's using its separate audio in and out and that's actually the preferable way to set it up so you don't have all this crap jacked in virtually.

04:58 And I wanted to set up my SIP client, Gizmo, so I could dial into the phone bridge so we could take calls. And so about 45 minutes before we started, I set it up and the very typical problem with voice over IP, and of course this is on the BT line, who I'm sure they have their own VoIP solution they want to sell. When you call a number, you can hear what's coming in, but they can't hear you. And that's because all the ports or the network address translation is messed up and so I gotta go and configure the hub. You know what? We'll do that next week. So the MXL mic's a cheapie. Really? Yeah, $169 on Amazon. Yeah. Well, it sounds good for a cheapie. Yeah, it does. You sound good. You sound just as good as you do with that lavalier hanging.

05:52 uh... scotch tape the uh... the gaffer tape to my forehead so it's positioned ideally so um... it's a funny idea for a photo no not really happy new year john well happy new year to you how's things going yeah i'm uh... i'm doing good someone says how's things going back there in the UK how did boxing day go uh... well boxing day is you know as you pointed out on the last show it was uh... very uh... filled with boxes for us. So the stock market went up and I have a one of the listeners says, oh, you should talk about it, you know, talk about the stock market. What do you think? It went up significantly, didn't go up 290 points or 260 or something. The day before it was also up 150. Yeah, it was up a couple of days before the end of the year and then it was up on

06:46 the one day we were open on low volume. Which of course leads, there's a thing that's kind of a piece of superstition that seems to come true a lot, which is that if the market goes up in January, then the whole year reflects that and it keeps going up. And then if the market goes down in January, the market just goes down. And so it seems to me that it's up a little, the start of January, up just now it's 9,000, the likelihood of it going up more by the end of the month so it has an upward trend by the end of January seems to be nil and so I can't imagine that it's gonna but it might but it could either be same you know around 9,000 at the end of the month or go down which seems more likely and I don't know maybe when Obama gets in it'll go flying who knows. Well you did predict that.

07:34 Yeah, yeah, I'm still thinking a lot of wild wild swings hold on people are saying that we sound like crap on the stream that we're over modulated on I turned it down so if you can Twitter and let me know if it sounds better now, I'd be appreciated I don't you know this feedback loop with this with the Twitter. Hey you guys see can't do that with the real radio. Hey you guys sound like shit You sound crappy man turn it down Well, hopefully we're recording it in in high fidelity so you can always listen turn it off and listen to it later But the feedback is good I guess I got busted because I did say I guess I must have said just casually that the oil is going to 200 Yeah, dude, and some guy like busted me for you. So you're always changing your mind I made the point that I'm a bandwagon jumper. I'm talking about sports mostly and

08:30 I'm a huge fan of Utah. People who watch football think that's hilarious. Anyway, so even though I never invested, I mean I was short oil. Well, hold on, let's just take it back one step because it's a little confusing. Actually, I've received a lot of emails from Dvorak fans who are saying, wow man, you know, you're kind of right about it. In fact, your East Coast Research Division You know who I'm referring to? Cary Lutz. Oh, yeah. He just said, please refer to me as the East Coast. Oh, I'm sorry. He said, please don't mention my name.

09:11 uh... he sent me a a nice long email said well then you're absolutely right and john is so wrong for the first time but what uh... well so here's the thing so there was another person who mailed us and said oh you know you you really uh... you do work is uh... is a little bit bandwagon jumper and he was all talking about two hundred dollar barrel and then you want to know if you know i didn't prove it prove it prove it find the episode prove it prove it And so I guess some complete nutball decided to listen to all these episodes to find the one lone example of my suggesting that it could go to $200. Yeah, here it is. And meanwhile, the price of oil is $126 a barrel. Yeah, I'm still thinking. It's going to $200 before the end of the year, baby. $200. I'm thinking $200. Oh, oh, oh. There it is. I was just agreeing with you.

10:11 Well, if you follow the next episode of the show, I was getting more skeptical. Yeah, but it's about the bandwagon jumping thing. And I'm amazed that people are only now just figuring this out. Well, you know, things you get on the bandwagon, so it's not a bad thing. I'm a huge Obama fan. Oh man, so here's the news out of the United Kingdom. Big protests of course around Europe at Israeli embassies from, you know, of course regarding the huge conflict now in the Gaza Strip and we have two celebrities, two celebrities who have stood up and saying we're not taking it anymore.

11:03 You wanna wager a guess as to which two superstar celebrities they are? Let me think. Amy Winehouse? No, she's got enough of her own problems. No, no, no, no, no. Two celebrities. Are they British celebrities? Yes, both of them are British. Internationally well known. So, that means they have to call a troll out. No, no. The thing is they're female and they are over 50, which is It's just a name Edna. Female I said female. No, you'll never guess. Bianca Jagger and Annie Lennox. Bianca Jagger and Annie Lennox? What is this the Has It Been Club? I'm telling you man. Bianca Jagger. Wow. I haven't heard that name for 10 years. But it's pathetic that that's the only people who are you know up in arms about this about this tragedy that's taking place.

11:57 Because it really is, this is messed up. And meanwhile, of course, my wife Patricia's sister is here, Yvonne, who has been great helping us unpack for the past week and she's been fantastic. But the two of them will sit down reading the paper and like, oh, it's so, you know, ah, Jet Travolta, you know, John Travolta's son died tragically, seizure, hit his head on the bathtub I think, which is terrible. And then just like, oh, well, dude, there's like a hundred kids who are dead and still lying underneath the rubble in the Gaza Strip. How can you obsess about Jet Travolta? Like, well, at least we know him. Yeah, well, they know him? Well, because they know John Travolta. I'm just saying. It's, you know, it's... Yeah. They don't know him. It's closer to home. Yeah. Think local, act global. Yeah. Or something. Right, Annie. Act global, think local. I'm not sure what it means.

12:54 Talking about what that means, this reminds me of another topic. So we're probably going to jump around a little bit today. That's alright. Let me find this. I had my... of course I can't find it when I want it. My daughter's been working on this paper and she's apparently using this computer and... Don't you hate that when the kids use your computer and this is the computer I use for the parchos This is not my normal writing computer still doesn't she have her own computer and you have a laptop or something she can use She makes this machine a lot. So You'll wind up giving it to her eventually I might cuz I have another machine that just I just got from the NPC noise the silent PC folks in Vancouver Washington I got a new machine from them just just a quick way go ahead and

13:42 Just to plug a company, if anybody's buying, you know, it's the same price you pay for a Dell or anything else, maybe a little more because you're going to get some better components. But these guys, it's like a custom, it's like a hot rod shop in the olden days. You could take your car to a rod and custom shop and they'd fix it up, you know, put some, you know, they just modify it. And soup it up, that's the word. So these guys build these machines that are architected, they use mostly standard components but they redesigned a lot of the stuff and they architect it so you have like a quad core killer machine with a good graphics system in it. I have more of a dual SLI, you know, NVIDIA stuff. Dead silent.

14:31 Dead silent I mean dead silent you have to actually you don't even know you can you turn it off? There's no evidence. You have to look at it to see if the fan stopped and how do they do that it? They pay the thing is they've got to they've got the air going through a certain way and they have a big giant fans because that you can turn those and move more air with less noise and and they're using some Antec cases and it's just engineering is what it is and then you got a lot of soundproofing in there. Excellent. So you get this machine, it's the same price you pay for any other machine and it's dead silent. So I mean it's very nice because I'm finally sick of these. What set me off

15:15 was a number of years ago AMD wanted to show off one of their new chips with something or other. They sent me a machine. AMD does this every once in a while. They send out these sample machines so you can look at their chips. Do you send them back? Generally they become worthless over time and so you don't send them back usually. You can if you want. They're not expecting them back. But anyway, you turn this thing on and it sounds like you're at the Moffett Field Jet Testing Center. It's just unbelievable. I mean, just holy... I mean, it sounded like the world was coming to an end. And I said, this is ridiculous. These machines are too noisy. And so I tracked these guys down. Anyway, that's a plug for them. Did you see that...

16:08 Someone loaded Android onto a netbook. Oh really? Yeah, I told you that was coming. I've also found that there's a whole community of people who are loading Mac OS X onto, or OS X onto netbooks. Yeah, Apple's got some mechanism to brick those. Oh, no doubt, but still it's pretty cool. Apparently the, there's one, what is the netbook? It's like the WinEye or something. Does that sound familiar? I don't know. The only one I remember, there's a couple of them I can't remember. The EPC is very memorable. And I think HP's is the HP 100, HP 1000, which is kind of neat. I saw one at Costco and played around with it for a little while. I could use that machine. The keys are a little bit small, but man, the portability, and if it actually ran OS X, I think I would go for that.

17:04 Yeah, I think he's all just a... but not so much that you can't type on it. And it's not like a phone. Anyway, back to my daughter. She's working on this thing for her school on the world's water crisis. You know, they always want to get these kids involved. So I ran into this one thing on the browser here that she has a million tabs open with a bunch of different things about water. But this is unbelievable. I ran into this one. Because it's almost as though you know you can't win or it's like as though you know the definition of a reactionary which I always like to give the right wing, the real reactionary, true definition of reactionary is someone who wants to go back in time. And it seems to me that the American left or the liberals, they want to go back in time to a day when there was no distribution, there was no roads, everyone walked and rode bicycles and this kind of idealistic thing. And so everything that's remotely modern is somehow

18:07 contributing to everything that's going wrong. Now let me just read you this. This is from the Trouw, T-R-O-U-W Daily in the Netherlands. Trouw, T-R-O-U-W. Trouw. Trouw I believe was started as an underground resistance newspaper in World War II, I think, in Amsterdam. Here we go. Hydropower disaster for global warming. large dams have dramatic consequences ecosystems are destroyed in numerous people are made homeless often without adequate resettlement but it is yet little known that large-scale hydroelectricity is a major contributor to global warming. What? The reservoirs could despite their clean image be even more devastating for our climate than fossil fuel plants. A few years ago I spent a money goes on and on

19:05 I'm thinking two things. One, is this guy serious? By the way, let me go down two graphs or three graphs. He says Mega Hydro has an atrocious record. The World Commission on Dams, WCD, consisting of experts opposition and industry was installed to produce an independent review of large dams. The WCD estimates in 2000 that 40 to 80 million people have been displaced worldwide. 80 million? Anyway, the uh, seems unlikely. I mean just the number doesn't sound right. Maybe in China. Whatever the case is, this could have been, you know, this could be a piece of propaganda put out by the oil industry obviously to, you know, keep people on the right track to using fossil fuel.

19:51 but uh... i don't think so i think this is actually just some typical reactionary in the sense of let's you know we can't do anything with let's just cov you know cover ourselves and put a solid up in the cave somewhere in and write it out yeah if it's not the hydroelectric power it's uh... bovine flatulence flatulence that's the class of what she did think that the thing to me that this all this a whole global warming thing always boils down to is veganism. It's at some point, you don't care what nut ball you're watching, if you're watching the Green Planet, they have a whole net channel now on the Dish Network and elsewhere called Green. And it's just a bunch of horrible shows that are self-serving, except Emeril's is actually pretty good because he's still just cooking.

20:41 You know emerald green and get it yeah, and then they have the guy who does I got a disc for you I'll send you with a couple of these shows on it. Just like I'm just like all the other ones you sent me But it but at the point at some point it always becomes Vegetarianism I mean it is always related. There's always a vegetarian angle and it always then it gets kind of to veganism and Let's get rid of the herds of cattle and let's just eat. You know oats and And it's always that element. I've never seen anybody that doesn't have that element in them. Let's eat dirt and chalk. They're behind the whole thing. PETA, the vegans, and the crackpots that hold foods. I gotta tell you, I don't talk bad about PETA at all because those people frighten me to death.

21:31 Those are the ones that will wind up actually killing you. No, I'm very afraid of really radical act... and look, I love animals, but there are some very, very radical elements out there in the animal activism space. And they do... they kill people. Yeah, because people are meaningless crap. Yeah, it's all about the animals. So along the lines of global warming, you want to hear some earth-shattering news? Right. uh... scientists from the united nations i p c c have now determined that the earth will be cooling for the next three decades that is the same people that brought you global warming now known as uh... climate change quote addressing the washington policy policy makers in seattle washington doctor don easterbrook said the shifting of the pacific

22:22 Decadal Oscillation, that's PDO for short, from its warm mode to its cool mode virtually assures global cooling for the next 25 to 30 years and means the global warming of the past 30 years is over. The announcement by NASA that the PDO, that's the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, has shifted from its warm mode to its cool mode is right on schedule as predicted by past climate and PDO changes, and there's some references. and is not an oddity superimposed upon and masking the predicted severe warming by the IPCC. This has significant implications for the future and indicates that the IPCC climate models were wrong in their prediction of global temperatures soaring one degree Fahrenheit per decade for the rest of the century.

23:10 Doesn't matter. No one else will hear about it, John. It doesn't matter. Well, I'm blogging it. That's what I mean. No one else will hear about it. Yeah, well, bada-bing. I'll send you the link. You're kidding me. No, of course not. I missed that one. When did that come out? These guys are just unbelievable. This is December 7th, actually, is when this came out. It came out December 7th and it hasn't been... I didn't catch it until just now. But this whole shifting of the poles and the solar winds and the diminishing of the magnetism of the poles, all of this goes back to 2002.

23:52 So this is before Al Gore's inconvenient truth. NASA and other scientists were saying, oh this will change the climate, it could make it warmer or cooler. But they were literally saying it's that that is the cause, not man-made. It's all over the news now. It's mainstream publications. No one's doing anything with it. Yeah, maybe, but we're still all going to die if we don't stop our cows from farting and stop generating power from the ocean. Stop eating meat. That's basically where it boils down to. Stop eating meat.

24:31 because it's their animals and his people cause after more flies the you know did all animals from my wife has a theory is because they watch too many Disney cartoons with all these talking animals usually sounding a lot like Eddie Murphy well they sound like this sometimes I'm speaking of me has has she mentioned she's an earthquake not right she is she tracks the USGS website USGCS whatever it is Yeah, she hasn't said anything to me about the Yellowstone thing, which is what you're gonna bring up. That's exactly what's gonna bring up, yeah. Nothing at all, huh? No. I don't know why. For those of you who... She's just finished her Spice book, which I'm in the process of editing. She's a Spice girl now! Well, she... You should tell her that. That's hilarious. I never thought of that. It's a good joke. So, anyway, so the Spice book is done, so we'll get that out in the next...

25:26 So people are being warned to not go to Yellowstone. I didn't know it was that bad. Yeah, they have about a hundred earthquakes a day now at Yellowstone. Yeah, I heard that. And the tremblers. That's not good. No, that's extremely bad. Yeah, Yellowstone is one of the great giant calderas. I mean, it's the size of Krakatoa. And it's one of the three or four, I guess, that go off. We have serious issues. Yeah, I mean this could go all the way to from, it could go up to Mount St. Helens. I mean this thing is huge, right? It's huge. It's just about, the size of it is about a quarter the size of the state of Wyoming. And if it went off,

26:14 The problem is when it goes off, it's a mega-volcano, which is the kind that ends up killing like 90% of the life on Earth. Yeah, because essentially it spews shit into the atmosphere, the sun is blocked, and then we all die. Well, we don't all die. Well, just you in America. No, actually it would probably, if it went off because of the trade winds, it would blow most of the crap to the east and people on the extreme west coast would have something of a chance. uh... but probably not much of one because i i think the southern hemispheres that if i'm not mistaken doesn't get into the mixes such that you could put my bill moved to brazil and uh... he got a living during the food riots exactly this wouldn't be a good thing uh... there's there's a correction is there is there any mainstream reporting on that in the states or is this another one of these and i think it crops up but it's not like anybody's you know it's not like the the art bell you know uh...

27:18 overnight did the whatever that shows called the overnight whatever it is that show we have all these crackpots on it's not as though it's picked up I mean that group is into it you know there's the group of worry warts the general public I think is oblivious oblivious they're oblivious for the fact that you know we don't have an educated population anymore and they don't, they can't keep up with anything except you know, I'm sure John Travolta's. Yeah, John Travolta's kid. And that's about it. Exactly. And so another thing that happened that I also looked into which became very interesting to me is the leap second bricking the 30 gigabyte Zoom MP3 players. And it's not so much about the

28:11 you know, about Microsoft and Zoom and all that, you know, whatever. It's just, you know, that was an unanticipated programming mistake. What was interesting is how these leap seconds came to be. The US Navy started this in 1972. And the reason why is to compensate for the irregular rotation of the Earth to keep Earth time or solar time, I guess we call it, in sync with atomic time. But it's willy-nilly. So the last time they did it was 2005. They didn't expect to insert a leap second until 2010. So they just said, oh, we should do it this year based upon, I guess, someone sitting there looking at the Earth's rotation, counting it out.

28:57 But this just goes to show when you fuck with time man you can screw up a lot of shit in the world and this time it was just... Wait a minute, what does a leap second got to do with the bricking the Zune? Because on December 31st it had one more day to go And based upon the internal clock, I guess it has some kind of clock that is synced up. This is not working for me. This is what Microsoft themselves posted. They said this is what... That's their excuse? I believe that.

29:33 Yeah, because basically you get an extra second and so it didn't know what to do on the rollover and that's why it happened the minute it saw that this next day would have, you know, whatever the equivalent is of 24 hours plus one second in seconds and that basically put it into an infinite loop on boot up. But I don't care. I mean, people have a Zune should be shot anyway. What I'm interested in... I see the quality of the Zune sound is better than the iPod. Yeah, whatever. But this messing around with... the same thing with daylight savings time. It bugs me. It bugs me that we're doing this stuff. There's no energy efficiency. That's all offset by air conditioning in the summer and extra heating in winter. There's got to be some evil scheme behind this time change and adding leap seconds. It just doesn't sit right with me.

30:29 Alright, don't you don't you don't you have any information on that didn't weren't you a timeologist at one point in your career? I was never a timeologist. I've always wanted to be I'm trying to find something. Here's the Yellowstone Visitor Center. There's nothing here about anything No, there's a web page. I have a web page for you. Oh Where is it? It says that they don't want people going there. I think now's the time to go. There's nothing more thrilling than little shakers. Well, right now they have volcano alert level normal activation color code green. But that was an update from yesterday. It's volcano... that's the USGS site. I just don't think it's a good idea to go. No, I think now's the time.

31:32 I'm just the opposite. For one, here's the reason. The place is always crowded. Everyone's going to be scared off, so the place will be really dead empty, which is great. I doubt it. I think there's a lot of people who are going to go exactly for the reason you just outlined. Well, I could be wrong, but generally speaking, I think people are more, you know, no. I mean, it sounds good on paper what you said, but the fact of the matter is most people are very skittish. and i was watching this thing in sixty minutes couple weeks ago there's the uh... what show that had the uh... the explanation the tsa and the guy heads of tsa and the guy just a he just didn't worry with you know just worry or they're out to kill us they want to kill us we're at war and she and i'm thinking more would you know where's the what kind of a war is this a new week today killed a bunch of people are you know decade ago and then now we're you know waiting for me this is a very poorly up you know this is that this is not like

32:23 you're losing millions of people during World War II. But anyway, there seems to be a level of fear that is hand-wringing. Yeah, you think? So they've got a bunch of hand-wringers that are afraid of their own shadow. This is the Americans that used to be the leaders and now they're all frightened. So I don't think they would be going to Yellowstone. No, if it's not terrorism, we're fearless. We're very afraid of... I think we're completely afraid of everything now. Global warming everybody's you know afraid of that. That's not it's not that's the no it's not the afraid part It's a it's a part of being politically correct and caring about the earth and doing your part That's what that's about is nothing. No one's just afraid of the earth burning up. They don't give a shit They know it's not gonna happen for another I'm thinking hundred years move to Berkeley no I'm thinking I don't but I hear what you're saying thing that here's a funny thing that I ran into the other day and

33:27 I mean, I was actually stunned. I'm listening to the radio and there's an ad for the CIA. I've heard this. Yeah, they go on and on about the CIA and they had a guy with a kind of a deep kind of a voice you couldn't identify. It was I think the voice was tuned with one of those little thingies you know that you can adjust sounds with. A vocal guy going, you too could be a useful member of this central intelligence agency in clandestine intelligence gathering. and uh... in this i think it was a word they use clandestine intelligence gathering and then they should go to cia dot gov slash jobs i think i'm going to see a c a e is generally is a recruiting company they go to colleges and they find kids with you know hi uh... great point averages and they make him offers that they can refuse here and uh... here comes to you know jim smith she was offered a job at the cia almost like a haircuts

34:31 Some of our bugs have been, well, real bugs. Is this the one? No. At the CIA, our scientists and engineers create and apply innovative technology to meet intelligence needs. Care to join them? US citizenship required. Void where prohibited by law. That's not the one I was listening to. That's actually better than the one I'm thinking about. That's a TV ad actually. Oh that's a TV ad, oh my god. Anyway, so,

35:10 Can't believe they're doing this because it's besides it's like so secret agency and then by the way they'd all that if you want to get if anybody out there wants to get involved with the high-tech stuff Fine trying to find a job with the NSA at least of you want to be with the computers Anyway, no such agency. It's called amongst the people don't want to have their phone tapped I'm thinking it's a honeypot. I just suck people in I Yeah, just to see what kind of screwballs. For one thing, if you're a terrorist, the first thing you'd want to do is get a job with the CIA. Absolutely, yeah. Did you read about the reporter who took, first she printed out a fake boarding pass

35:58 at home on her computer. Yeah, you can do that. And then she had three bottles which she put in her little plastic baggie. Each bottle was, you know, 100 milliliters. One contained charcoal, one contained sulfur, and one contained saltpeter. And each bottle was labeled as charcoal sulfur st. Saltpeter put him as she actually she says that she completely drenched and made him wet cuz you know just to really you know make sure nothing could happen because those three elements people is the is gunpowder and Took him through to you know put her bag through TSA, you know a little baggie with everything clearly labeled She even put the labels out so they could read them and

36:38 They didn't look at that, but they were very, very concerned with the pan flute that she had in her luggage. The pan flute. I would be too, by the way. Anybody boarding with a pan flute is suspicious. So she got through with a fake boarding pass with all the elements for gunpowder and get this, here's the kicker, they swabbed her bag with one of those white little discs and it was negative. Well, I think they're looking I don't know what that little disc is looking for But I'm just I suspect there's specific things and one I'd like ammonia if she had been carrying ammonium nitrate She may have been busted. I mean that seems to be something more likely to be caught and it has more potential I mean to make to mix gunpowder by yourself. It's like it's a whole I was used to be a chemist when I was a kid You know I used to do all these things until I was

37:27 When I went to University of California, and I was in chemistry that was warned away from it But from one of the my professors I said look I can't name a thousand guys with one finger missing because of the stupidity of doing some of this stuff and so I wouldn't you know either Go work for a dynamite company and learn how to do it right, but still the the point is make gunpowder work well Kirk and make sure Kirk was able to do it captain Kirk and Yeah, well, yeah, with that thing going after him, yeah, Captain Kirk. Yeah, with the, uh, didn't he use like bird poop or something? For sulfur? I can't remember, but it was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. So, I was looking... The likelihood of getting it to fire by clicking on some flint is zero. Okay, but still, you get the point.

38:15 Yeah, no, I get the point. You know, the problem I have with it is that every time somebody pulls a stunt like this, then they just crank, crack down on everybody. So inconveniences us all. I think we know that the TSA and the rest of this is kind of a sham and the whole thing is just for show. So why do you do this? I mean, I condemn this woman. Interesting take. Good point, actually, now I think about it. Well, I guess that's the only... instead of really doing some writing and really making some real trouble where it matters to stop the idiocy that is the multi-billion dollar TSA, that's what she chooses to use as a weapon. Yeah, and they end up giving her even more money. So... The CIA has a kids page, John. Welcome! We're glad you're here to learn more about the Central Intelligence Agency.

39:13 And then it should say wait while we install this Trojan horse on your computer Ten nine eight fine now you can continue This is pretty amazing Unbelievable, so you're ready to learn more about the CIA Hmm. Let's see games live games puzzles were break the code aerial analysis challenge This reminds me of the movie Last Starfighter. So the kids go on this site and then they crack the code and then they give them another second level and then a third and then by the fourth level if the kid cracks the code within a certain amount of time, so knock on the door and they're hauled off to the cold breaking for the rest of their lives. Oh man. That is just frightening isn't it? Yeah. Somebody's got to do something. I think they, I don't know.

40:14 Don't know if they're if if they We need a better CIA or worse when I'm not sure I'm trying to find the radio commercial that you heard, but I'm not it wasn't videos audio Yeah, radio. It's where I said the radio commercial. Oh, they said video sorry I met I met radio commercial. Oh, you'd think that someone would have that around no well, and they're talking about clandestine Which is like what does that mean? Well, I know that I mean there's covert, that's, you know, apparently they're not seeking anybody to go in and murder people. No, but what I've seen them do is, particularly with kids, is they could send you a little kit and you're supposed to be an environmentalist undercover agent and if you see your parents doing something that is not green then you have to bust them and then you should report the... And you have to torture them... Waterboard your parents.

41:14 It's disgusting it really is Farmers You got something I got plenty of stuff you tell me if you want I was just gonna go on with that I never finished the Gina Smith story. I'm sorry okay, so she Apparently was graduating from college and they you know I by the way I brought this story with different people and that's bull and then my favorite one is somebody somebody maybe was you Said that's bull. They used to do that in there wasn't you and they said they used to do that though I was like that they used to don't do it anymore So the thing was, Gina was supposed to, the CIA was going to place her in a high paying reporter's job at a newspaper. Oh yeah, so she would just be writing whatever they wanted her to write.

41:59 yeah, every once in a while they needed to do some disinformation or some, you know, they needed to feed something and then, you know, she would write it up and that would be, that's all she, maybe once in every six months or who knows, but she'd be on the payroll the whole time and then she'd come in and this is the kind of thing, of course, I think you can identify if you're a smart reader, you can find, you can see these kind of planted stories that You know, it's like some of the, like my favorite example is the Confessions of the Economic Hitman. If you, don't, I mean, you can read the book or not read the book, but what you want to go do is look at the reviews that blasted the book. Ah, right. And I found this one guy, I can't remember who it was, but he's, I think he's with the Boston Globe or the Washington Post, maybe Washington Post.

42:51 and he blasted the book as bull and he went on and on but if you then when you see that guy then you back you click on all of his articles and it's all the same right and he's saying the same about all the same folks right right right malarkey that is like all this is interesting and then you'd so then if you can reverse engineer the whole process and figure out who these guys are these stooges you can read their material to see exactly what the litany is a deal what's what's the what's the memo for the day and and what it was a totally supposed to be thinking what's the right way of thinking about things well so you can actually see that right now you'll see the very few

43:31 journalists really, really, really condemning Israel for their part in the conflict in the Gaza. And then from time to time you'll see one that really sticks out and really defends Israel. And you've got to believe that that's all, I mean, that just doesn't make any sense. You can't defend either side of that. Right. So yeah, no, you can find, you can spot these guys, but what I recommend people do who want to be smart readers is that when somebody sticks out like a sore thumb, look at their past work. This is kind of like using Yelp in real time. Yelp is interesting as a reviewer site and people around the world... Right, and then you look at the reviewers and see what their other reviews are for other things.

44:19 Right, so you say you've got Cynthia here who likes or dislikes this restaurant you think you're going to go to and you click on all of her reviews and then you can see if you're in agreement with her on the stuff that you have common, where there's common knowledge. In other words, I've been to this restaurant already and I liked it and she hates it. I'm thinking, well, this woman is not in agreement with me so I'm not going to take her advice. and so you find another reviewer who's in total agreement with everything the way you think in terms of taste for restaurants and that so you you can sell okay then she like this new place I will go there that's you can do that in the real in real time now that we're on the net with all this information because these writers their stuff is all archived I mean you can go to market watch for example you can read my stuff for the last four years

45:11 And then quickly never read another article because like this guy always does the same thing. We don't want to read it. Would you mind breaking something down for me John? You've not responded to the three times I've now brought up Gaza. What's going on there? What exactly is the problem? Why is this? I think the Israelis, I have this for some reason I haven't followed this closely, except for the fact that the way it's portrayed is the Israelis are sick and tired of having these missiles lobbed into their country constantly as a terrorist mechanism. It's kind of like the buzz bombs.

45:53 over London, you know, they didn't do as much damage as, you know, the Israelis ended up doing. Right, well these are like firemen, these are like bottle rockets they're sending off. I mean, I'm not saying that they don't cause destruction, but it's nothing compared to... Well, they keep doing it and they won't stop. Right, but why are they doing it? That's what I always say. Why do they want to do that? A lot of people think they're doing it because you know how the whole thing is funded by around to get them detention away from uh... issues in the middle east let's break it down a little bit further with what is the history of the gaza strip Well, the history of the Gaza Strip has always been an area of... The problem with the Gaza Strip is it's too close. It's in a situation where you can easily attack Israel. And so the Israelis had to take it over some years ago. And they're now... Because it was originally not designated as... As Israel. Yeah, but doesn't this all stem from after the Second World War? Didn't the Brits draw up these lines and said, here you go?

46:52 the Brits are responsible for the whole thing. Would you mind just filling me in just so I have the story? I don't know the history that well. I mean there are people that are... Well that's a travesty. We should know the history. We know the history that after World War II they had to put all these Jewish refugees someplace and they wanted to have their own country and they wanted to go back to Jerusalem. And so as the spoils of war, which is not uncommon because the Arabs and that whole group were on the sides of the Nazis, we could have taken over the whole place. we took this little chunk and gave it to the Jews and they've been pissed off ever since, the other people, when in fact we could have taken over the entire Middle East. That's the time they've taken over the oil fields. I mean, they were essentially the enemy. Right. So that's basically where it starts. Well, it's pretty messed up. But I can see both sides. Of course, the lobbying of missiles is not acceptable.

47:57 But there's so much going on there, man. That whole area has been perpetually screwed up. And even before World War II, it's never been a good area. It's always been nutty. So you'd expect the office of the President-elect to at least say something, which he refuses. He doesn't know what to do. He's befuddled. He's too busy extending everybody's employment agreement. No, he's too busy making arrangements for this big party he's gonna have. This is gonna be a party administration. I mean, that's going to make Kennedy's look like a joke. I mean, we're starting off already with this giant party of his inauguration, which is going to be worse than anything ever done in Nazi Germany. I mean, people are just flocking to go there. And there's going to be a massive... It's going to be like two million people live. I mean, hopefully... They're asking for trouble in one of these situations. If there's a riot breaks out or something weird happens. But let's just say that nothing does.

48:57 and we go from there to the inauguration balls the plural they're all right now it's like a big deal to be in this one or that one and is all that you know there's gonna be more chit chat about these balls and who saw who and who's in and who's out and who's on the obama a list and who's on the b list and what can you do to get from the c list to the b list and and then this is never gonna this is gonna just continue throughout his administration is this kind of uh... Weird you know kind of social craziness it seems like You've got to get right. He's just gonna shut up until the inauguration and then yeah, and then it's gonna be just a bunch of you know I think he's it's gonna be a lot of empty Phraseology you know he's gonna come out water do to do a do do Do Ron Ron to do Ron Ron Ron?

49:56 it's gonna be just a lot of you know he's gonna continue these which pay was work for me in the past campaign speeches he's gonna keep giving them is going to be in is going to be an endless campaign speech we've got to change the problem you know we've got to bother bother bar you know and it's a do-round on the do-round run is there were going to be nothing getting is going to be a d a do nothing administration they got no money He's going to print up a trillion. That's the key. If it's a feel-good administration, I think it's going to give the stock market a boost and people will get back to work. No one's going to get back to work. Are you kidding me? There's no jobs, but you'll feel good about it. This guy is great.

50:43 I like that Obama guy. Yeah, at least he's trying to change something. He's changing and he's hoping. Changing and hoping and hoping and changing. That's about it. Savings accounts now get 0.1% interest in the United Kingdom. The interest is now lower than inflation. That's I don't know what can I say and and the bank you know a lot of people have tracker mortgages They have that in the States tracker mortgages. I never heard of it. Oh in the United Kingdom And a lot of people in lower housing have them so it tracks to as an example LIBOR the London interbank overnight rate Oh, no, that's called that that's an adjustable we call okay, okay?

51:36 Well, here they call it a tracker and of course those people's mortgages have been going down because they track. Yeah, but that's what we've had. We've had adjustables the whole time. It's just the laughable. Oh, let's refinance and then they get fixed and it still keeps going down, I'm thinking. you know, it's never going to stop going down. Well, it stops now because the banks in the United Kingdom have said, oh, those of you with tracker mortgages, this is it. It's not going any lower. Even if the rate goes down, your mortgage will not go down. Well, that's not what it says in the contract. So it's not going to work here. But they're forcing that. They're absolutely forcing it. They can force whatever they want. They're going to get their ass sued. And if it's in the United States, they pull a stunt like that.

52:14 We don't put up with that crap you guys put up with. Oh, you mean like outsourcing the big email telephone trap database to a private company? You mean stuff like that? Yeah. Stuff like that. We don't put up with it. What is the world coming to? Why do people... You know, I was talking to the movers. So with this move we had like 15 guys around us for a total of 4 or 5 days. Packing, moving, unpacking. Did they talk like this? Yeah, well they're all like cockney guys, one or two from the north.

52:49 And I asked them all kind of the same question. I said, hey, you know, when did you guys just start taking it up the ass? And they say, well, you know, we're getting pretty close here. I said, what, you tell me that I'm going to see pitchforks and torches in the streets? He said, you know, I agree mob. I said, the guy said, I believe within a year that's going to happen. And he said, I'm taking all my lorries up to Whitehall. I'm going to go block the shit off. So it's brewing there's something going on there the French would have done it a year ago. Yeah Well, the French did do it a year ago And the year before and the year before that yeah all the good has done them But at least they feel good about it and people always know that the French can you know? Screw up the whole place really fast. Hey, would you like to know the top Chateau nerfs from 2007 the top shut enough to pop? Yeah, I

53:44 Why? Because they're announced in the Financial Times. Oh, by Jancis? Yeah, Jancis Robinson. Yeah. He's no she's no good. No, she's outstanding. She's a little full of herself But she's got a good palate more or less I mean she's not I don't think she's a she's more of a book writer than she is a you know professional taster looking at her at home She's become the big expert because she had this best-selling Killer book by the way the encyclopedies encyclopedia of wines or something like that's a big Oxford Press thing it's that everyone should own a copy and

54:21 So there's my plug for her. She has the perfect face for a radio. She's a British looking woman. She's pretty harsh looking. Oh man. She's a British looking girl. And lively. And she's smart and she's academic and she knows her stuff but I don't know that her wine palate per se is as good as some of the Rad to be honest, but it's not as good as the as some of those real pros out there and but she does You know get things that plugs things like shots enough to pop which has become an overpriced Trendy wine. It's just well, here's what she's plugging. She's a plugging parents. I'm sure it's overpriced Well, there's no there's no prices Perrin homage a Jacques Perrin. Yeah Chateau de Bocastel. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's a standard step on Vido. Oh

55:17 Yeah, never heard of that one. La Ferme du Mont. Claude, Claude De Pape, of course. Dom La Barouche, La Barouche. Dom de la Charbonniere. Yeah, okay, whatever. So not that I don't like talking about wine, it's just a list of Chateauneuf-de-Pops is not the most interesting thing in the world. Oh man, I can't wait until you come over here. I think it's because Parker picked up on it because he was trying to get some more market share. So he had one of his minions get into Chateauneuf-de-Pops and start ranking them. Now you see these Chateauneuf-de-Pops for $100, it's ridiculous. I think it's an overrated wine.

56:01 I like them by the way. I think they're really tasty but there's a sameness to them that doesn't make them that interesting and I'm sure someone's going, oh that's bull. No, there is, there's a sameness. I mean they all taste like, they taste very similar. They taste like Chateauneuf-de-Pape which they're supposed to but I mean there's, but the variation between the 95 point, $150 Chateauneuf-de-Pape and a $24 Shatyn if the palms minimal right it's not profound right I'm coming out at the end of the month dude So you better line something up so I went to Shea Spencer the other day. I was sorely disappointed. No Surely you just know I think they lost their chef or something because I mean this wasn't anything like me This is like what are you doing?

56:50 So that's off the list. Really? Wow. Yeah, very much of a... Did you ask them? Did you inquire what was going on? I did inquire because one of the girls that works there also works at Fringal. And when I'm over at Fringal I'll probably grill her. She says Fringal has a new chef that may have stabilized the cuisine there, so we have to go check it out. They've gone through a bunch of guys, we'll have to go back. Well, I'm going to be out for, was it four or five days maybe? So we should probably try a couple different places. Yeah, we should. Well, let's plan at least two dinners because it'll be a while before I'm back. All right, there's probably a couple places. Oh yeah, you know what's happening now in San Francisco is these

57:30 There's a bunch of these, I don't know where they got this one from, but I think there's at least three of them, extremely trendy Peruvian restaurants. High-tech New York style decor, you know, some sort of supposed Peruvian cuisine. I've been to Peru, I don't know what they're talking about. it but they're extremely in these very talented guys you know the super chefs from Peru that have been trained in Paris or with them something like that so we should probably get two of those that we can be a do a thematic thing with this Peruvian thing going on. What is a traditional traditional Peruvian dish? Well as far as I can tell when I was in Peru I mean I was taken to what the Peruvians really eat

58:14 But if you go into the mountains or you go into the middle of nowhere, you know, the peaks of the Andes and go to some villages, you know, they eat a very pretty moderate meal of you know, just you know, meat and potatoes, literally. I mean, they have 10,000 kinds of potatoes they grow, that's where potatoes came from. So there's a lot of potatoes. If there's not a lot of potatoes in the dish, then you know it's not Peruvian. But there's a thing that I ran into that they said, oh, this is what the Peruvians like the best, is my guy taking me around. And it's a thing called chifa, and it's C-H-I-F-A. And you look at it,

58:49 and if you just squint your eyes a little bit it says China and it is in a font that is always that kind of you know that Chinatown font. You know, if it's a Chinatown font. It's an audible font clearly. So it's a Chinatown font and the food, you go in and you have it, it's kind of some sort of a faux Chinese food, chifa. and it is, from what I can tell, it's almost a dead-on copy of a much meatier version with potatoes often, which you don't get in Chinese food ever, but of chop suey, which was an invention. I thought chop suey was an American invention. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's an invention from America, but it seems to me that the idea that

59:38 somehow chop suey developed independently in Peru from the whatever the Chinese food was because you know the chop suey evolved I believe I mean if you think about it logically and it's hard to get the history of chop suey but chop suey I think evolved when Chinese from the 1860s came over here to build the railroads and they brought their cuisine with them and at some point they couldn't get the ingredients. I mean, you know, we didn't grow any of this stuff. So they kind of a mock Chinese dish evolved, I think in California, and it became known as chop suey. And I can make chop suey. I know exactly how it would, because I used to have one when I was a kid.

1:00:23 It's always amusing. I think I've made chop suey two or three times over the last ten years for the family as a joke and all we're having chop suey and And everybody's not chop suey It's not, it's very tasty. It's not like a bad, it's not bad, but it's not something you'd ever have in China. You just couldn't find it there. So, so anyway, so this chifa is, as soon as I had it, I go, this is chop suey for God's sake. And these Peruvians are loving it. So I don't know what the, what these restaurants are about, but it's obviously not about chifa. You are familiar with a celebrity chef, Jamie Oliver?

1:01:02 Yeah, yeah, he used to be a busboy turned chef. And now very successful chef. Yeah, huge. A while ago, and he's come back with a retort, why bring it up, he said, British people are drunks with diets worse than those found in the poorest slums of Soweto. Yeah. And so what was wrong with that? Are you kidding me? People went ape shit. And his retort is, the people I'm telling you about have huge TV sets a lot bigger than mine. They have state-of-the-art mobile phones, cars, they go and get drunk in pubs at the weekend, their poverty shows in the way they feed themselves. I found the cooking of the inhabitants of the slum in Serveto in South Africa a lot more diverse than ours.

1:01:45 It's true, I'm going to be harsh, but I think a lot of English people's food lacks heart. It's bland. Spot on. He nailed it. You know, I've never heard that about British food being bland, huh? Let me write this down. We got a great restaurant around the corner. In fact, there's a number of very, very good restaurants. And we went to a place called Grafton House last night. It's in walking distance. Fantastic, beautiful place. You know really? It's new is it ranked in the Michelin book is it who owns it? Who's the owner cuz I don't know five or six of these Superstar you know I'll find out I'll find out what's his name Gordon Ramsay Ramsay Gordon Ramsay type Operation, you know Gordon Ramsay is in deep shit you've certainly you've heard about that right no we I know nothing oh Turns out he was cheating on his wife with another woman for five years

1:02:45 uh... this is the it's bad times he's being ripped apart because you know how you know how he is mister family man i'm working so hard and saving a saving the restaurant industry restaurant by restaurant so the papers just love this and they're going to have the papers their picture evidence of himself or himself and he's like you know the big shot you know this is everybody out for being a dud or being a bad person or whatever. But this is show business people, this is how it works. You go up, you go down. It's a roller coaster. That's just the way. You stay in it long enough, you're going to get slammed down and then if you can hang in long enough down at the bottom, you can move back up. That's the way it works. Celebrity Big Brother has started again, John.

1:03:27 Oh great. Would you like to know who's in the house? You don't have to watch it. I love watching it because Celebrity Big Brother I'm very interested in because I want to know what LaToya Jackson really is like. And she's in the house because it's interesting. So who's in the Big Brother house? Okay, in the Big Brother house. I had it here. uh... how come i can't find it well the toy a jackson coolio he's a rapper uh... couple of uh... girl band singers oh uh... mini me burnt royer well that's funny this is humor there uh... he was already hammered last night yeah i'm sure if you see this for a at least a heard of his porn tape

1:04:27 No, I don't even want to think about it. I don't want to ever see it. I'll burn you a DVD, no worries. No, I'll just throw it out. I won't look at it. I'll put something else on. I'll say, Ed, this is a documentary you gotta watch. You've given it away now, so it's not going to work. I'll put the Mini-Me's porn. He had a girlfriend. They were really in love. There's a lot of girls that are kinky. But then he cheated on her. Let's see. Ex-Sugar Babe, Mutaya Buena. Sounds like a real name to me Tina Malone best known for playing Mo and Brookside. Oh, that's a UK show Ben Adams of the boy band a1 Coolio of course gangsters paradise Lucy Pinder a conservatory Conservative supported model who hates quote bleeding-heart liberals. I'll be interesting. Oh, yeah, that would be fun But Latoya Jackson is just fascinating to look at her face. I

1:05:28 Just, I can look at it for hours, like man, how did she, what did she do to it? And nose is all like chopped and reshaped and just, I love it. It's okay, I'll... Well, she, she definitely is what Michael wanted to do, but I guess they used different doctors. I think he has a whole host of doctors that he's used. And, you know, the news... So did you hear the story that he's like down and out and broke? Yeah, I don't buy that. I don't buy that at all. That doesn't make sense to me. No, I don't buy that. He's, you know, look, he definitely has issues, but I also think... He's in Monte Carlo. But if you have... He was in Dubai for a number of years and he's all around.

1:06:12 And you know he's like guess what it's normal guy he goes to normal places and stays with normal people which and then he's also nothing always living in a piece of shithouse and I don't know man just just on Royalties alone of the stuff that he's done. You know ask how BMI the guy he'll never have to work a day in his life ever again And I think if you have such a huge financial empire, you know, stuff like the Neverland Ranch, I was like, ah, fuck it. I got to deal with that. I got to, you know, whatever the mortgages do or whatever the issue is. People turn that into weird stories. So I don't buy it. I don't buy it. On the other hand, I heard Marla Maples is just living in some apartment in Phoenix. Yeah, isn't she shacked up with Fergie?

1:07:00 Was that right? No, but I put her at the same level. Yeah, it's something like that the former Dutchess Fergie the not Fergie the singer, you know, no Fergie Fergie the Formerly known as the Duchess of York. Yeah, where's she now? She was doing what she did Jenny Craig for a while Yeah, that didn't work out. So she had there was a very successful documentary that they did here on channel 4 I think or maybe was ITV and it was it was like a reality show of her at home and It was off the scale 7-8 million viewers which is big for the UK. So I'm sure she got, you know she's just doing gigs, getting money, getting paid.

1:07:37 When I first saw her, when she first came over to the States to settle in, she still had that British upper class kind of air. Which is a disdainful kind of understated quality. Hard to put your finger on. I mean you can identify it if you know what to look for, but people probably, I would think she put people off. And I wonder if that's changing at all because I even saw it coming through when she was doing the Jenny Craig thing. I don't think people care. Maybe. No, they don't. Maybe she'll back off of it. I mean, it's just a style of interpersonal relationship. No, I think people just don't care about her. It's like, oh, whatever. Oh, yeah. No, I think that's probably true. Yeah. Two more things I just wanted to touch on briefly with you.

1:08:27 uh... the big news here that no one of course really talking about is uh... russia has once again they do it every winter uh... turned off the supply of uh... gas to the ukraine if it's not the minute the minute it goes below freezing during the fifth every winner he must do this yes like that let's mess with those people again now of course uh... uh... all of the europe's gas that comes from russia uh... flows through the ukraine through that pipeline and already on i've read reports that there's twenty five percent less coming in so it's going to send prices skyrocketing europe is that you know rightly so i think worried about about these events because you know we're pretty dependent upon what comes out of russia's to keep the homes in the winter well as a halogen created dependency relationship and uh... some

1:09:23 And I thought that Senators were elected. That's pretty stupid, I guess, huh? They are elected. Well then how come not only Obama's Senate seat is being given away and why is Hillary's Senate seat being given away. Don't those people have to be elected to come in? Why does the mayor or governor or whoever it is... It's at the convenience of the states. The states have control over those seats and they create, they're the ones who set up the elections and if there's a situation where they don't have representation, they don't have time for an election, the governor can appoint a senator and send him to Congress. It happens all the time. Well, that sucks.

1:10:06 Why does it suck? Do you have to re-elect a guy? Although the politics is stupid. No, no. Maybe there's a... Well, listen. Does New York really need Caroline Kennedy as senator? I don't get the Caroline Kennedy thing either. Oh, I do. Alright, tell me. Oh, it's... She, of course, you know, she was a big... She's a dingbat. Obama suck up, you know, and she wants... She's gonna have front row seat at the inauguration and she'll be at all the right balls. and she of course lobbied that Ted would show up and endorse Obama. And this could be a quid pro quo. A total quid pro quo. In fact, Bloomberg, Michael Bloomberg said the idea that we would pass up appointing someone to the Senate who was both a friend and a critical supporter of Barack Obama is political malpractice. Yeah I heard that. Bloomberg's an asshole.

1:11:07 Well, he got himself extended, didn't he? Yeah, and as soon as he did, he screwed the public. It's unbelievable. It's hilarious, actually. yes almost like uh... lucy in the football what what do you do uh... what how do you screw the public cracked out he said me we'll go out and i say you know a raise taxes in the visiting the that is a is just you know stick it to him after you know making all these kind of big promises he was in doing anything like that but he he's a he's a dot state of new york is in serious serious serious trouble they're gonna go broke now they have a t new taxes i think in New York. 80. You know the thing a lot of people don't realize, who don't live in New York, is the fact that there's an income tax. The city has an income tax, the state has an income tax, and the federal government has an income tax. So you're taxed three times if you live in Manhattan. And when I moved... And I think that by the way that that city income tax is pretty high. I'm not sure what it is but I'm sure someone could tell us.

1:12:07 but it's you know it's not trivial. After we moved back from the States I had a mailing address with an assistant that I used to work with and she lived in New York so I just used her New York mailing address for stuff and I got a two million dollar tax bill from the city of New York. I said hey you owe us two million dollars pay now and then we'll assess how much it was later on You know, that was a tough little nut to crack there, because those guys are serious. And they got guns. Yeah. And it was, you know, it's very difficult to get them off your back and to say, well, listen, I never actually lived there. Well, prove it. And by the way, pay us the two million now. No. Yeah, well, that scam is a total scam. You don't have to, you know, tell them to screw themselves. You're not paying them anything. Oh, well, they have enormous powers, John. They can dock your pay. They can do all kinds of stuff.

1:13:05 They can't dock your pay, you're in England. Uh, if it's leaving the United States it can. It's coming from California. I don't see how they can attach it. I think it'd be a lot of trouble. There's some... I don't think it's easy. But whatever the case is, you got out of it. Yeah, no, I got out of it. After ten, fifteen thousand dollars in legal fees, sure. That's the whole scam. Right there. Hmm. That's disgusting. Oh, it happens all the... It always seems to happen with me. I'm on the list.

1:13:44 Horowitz thinks we should, the US people should consider shorting municipal bonds from New York. Oh hell yeah, how about all the municipal bond market, you know this advice is too late actually because it just collapsed. I think they... Well, it wasn't given yesterday. It was some time ago. Okay. Well, no, but yesterday or the day before I read on Bloomberg that the muni bonds had collapsed. They were down like 12% or some outrageous number, which is big in bond land. That's ridiculous. Bonds are supposed to be the best and stablest form of investment. They haven't been a stable or a good form of investment since I was a kid. Yeah. Not anymore. So here's what New York will do.

1:14:30 Forbes wrote about this, let me bring up that article, states consider selling off roads and parks. Check it out. Minnesota is deep in the hole. We paid for this with our taxpayers money and now you're going to sell it to somebody? Yeah, check it out, dude. Check it out. Minnesota. The state still owns a premier golf resort, a sprawling amateur sports complex, a big airport, a major zoo, and land holdings the size of the Central American country of Belize. And they're selling it all. It's for sale. Come on in. Well, maybe they shouldn't have owned it in the first place.

1:15:08 I don't know. The Tappan Zee Bridge? The Tappan Zee Bridge! That's outrageous! So you buy the bridge and put up a toll booth. You can literally say... It's like going back to feudal times. No, but you can literally say, I got a bridge for you. I got a bridge for sale. Tappan Zee Bridge! So you buy the bridge, you put up a toll booth, and you charge five bucks a head to go across it. You don't have to pay me, you can go around. Yeah, here, Democratic governor David Patterson appointed a commission to look into leasing state assets in New York including the Tappan Zee Bridge, the lottery, well the lottery is always a good one, golf courses, toll roads, parks, and beaches. Recommendations expected next month. This is crazy. They're selling off the whole state. Why can't we just sell the whole thing in one go? Can't we just bundle it up? Sell it to the Arabs. Yeah, let someone be king of New York.

1:16:05 Let's bring in the Dubai money and buy up New York State and let them run the place. Let them move over here. It's just too hot over there and the other thing they might as well just take over. The state of New York should be all Arab. Isn't that outrageous? Isn't that? And then they can have the little kind of a Jewish stronghold. yeah they are they were actually represents the Israel because he has similar shape and so you have a you have a recreation for the amusement of everybody of the Middle East crisis in New York State so we can watch locally and check it out so and then we have all these cameras around New York City and we can do a reality show that's what the cameras are good for yeah you can just follow random storylines random people it will be pretty cool

1:16:53 So anyway, New York's got problems. But you know, they're mismanaged. What do you expect? Yeah, they've used all the pension funds. It's nasty business. Nasty, nasty business. And you got anything else? No, I think we hit most of the important stuff, I think. I'm sure somebody wrote in and said, hey, why don't you talk about this? And we didn't do it. What about our, we didn't get our call-ins? Well, no, because I have to configure the router. I have to get the voice. Here's one crazy thing with Skype on the Mac It may be different on Windows when you call someone Or you have a call established then you can toggle the keypad so you can enter in dial tones. Let me see Yeah, toggle dial pad so I could hopefully this won't break anything right so I can do that on this call and

1:17:53 So then if I want to call into the conference... What do you toggle by the way? What is the key? There's a little drop-down menu on your call window. It says more and then down below it says toggle dial pad. Let me see. You're on Mac or Windows? I'm on Windows. Okay, I get more and this is play games, crazy talk, avatar. I don't have any of that good stuff. Chinese checkers. Wait, on the window itself? Where it says more, it basically adds. Let's play Chinese checkers! You can't play Chinese checkers, but I can't obviously dial anything.

1:18:32 Well, anyway, the crazy thing is if so what I wanted to do is I want to start wait a minute you can send a fax that's I didn't know that anyway go ahead and sorry no it's all right I wanted to see you can't connect two calls together you can't say okay I have call one here call to there I want to conference them you have to call it to set up a conference and call both numbers at the same time which it does perfectly so I can you know call in call you and I could call into the the conference setup Except then it the conference setup is saying okay, please you know do your dial tones for your pass pass code But there's no toggle the dial pad at least not on the Mac client, so you can't you can't do it So that's why I set up a different VoIP client which as I just said doesn't work But it's crazy that you can't do that in Skype. Hmm. I can't do it all set by complete Chinese chicken I

1:19:24 So next week I'll have it sorted out. Skypeify Outlook with Skylook. Woo! I wonder what that is. That sounds hot. Can you play Chinese Checkers with me? Do I have to do something? Let's see. Now it doesn't open Chinese Checkers, it opens up the Skype Extras Manager. And then it has Chinese Checkers. Click to open the plugin. Click to see all available commands. Are you gonna break click on that right connection? I'm sure I recommend to a friend enough. I can't I think it's gonna blow up I don't trust it. Don't do it. All right last one from Canada This is in my never-ending search to understand carbon credits Oh, so this is but so you actually prepared for the show this I always prepare for the show Okay, you usually just don't care about what I have to say. I'm sorry. What'd you say? I

1:20:28 Grow your own carbon credits. who does channel Dvorak by the way for me and he did channel Curry for you. We should... Yeah, oh no, and I wanted to thank him last week, I forgot about that. Yeah, channel Curry. We have to thank Bubba too for putting up the show notes. Yes. It's a channel... He says he will not be a call screener so we can forget that. Channelcurry.com, right? Yeah. Yeah, so it has... it's a cool page. It has all of my feeds. Let me just take a look. He's got some other gimmick he wants to do but he has to explain it to you.

1:21:08 Okay, a couple of them actually including having your head with a screen on the forehead. Oh cool He's also he's got me he added something. He's got me vo today in there cool And what is this now? There's a video window all of a sudden on channel curry calm. Yeah, listen, you'll Wait a good place to centralize things anyway, and it has my recent Twitter tweets States Navy responsible for this. Okay. I see what he did cool. Oh And it has one big RSS for all of that, so it has a combined feed as well. That's really cool. He's actually got the combined RSS thing down to a fine RSS. Yeah, that's fantastic. Did he use my checkout code? Your checkout code? Edgodaddy for the domain name? I don't know. I doubt it. Do that on your own time.

1:22:02 So back to Canada. Some prairie farmers are looking to the future where they can make money selling carbon credits. That brings me back to the point I was going to make. We need to start a business where we just buy, there's a lot of areas in Washington state where they've clear cut and they just leave it. They clear cut an area and there's a little bald spot on the side of a mountain and then it's just a bunch of crap after that and then they just abandon it. So you buy a few acres, you rip all the logs down and you leave. And you can probably pick this acreage up pretty cheaply, I'm thinking, and then you plant trees

1:22:37 and then you get carbon credits for that. So you set up shop and then you collect all these carbon credits and you have to plant like 50 trees and so you send somebody up there and you plant 50 trees and there's room for probably a thousand trees to ten thousand trees, I don't know. Well let's read through this for a second. Let's just read. The farmers get credits to follow certain farming practices like zero till, which involves seeding without plowing up the fields, The result is that the crops absorb carbon dioxide and the carbon stays fixed in the soil. What is all this? I'm not buying it. People till for a reason. Yeah, they lease the credits from the farmers paying $2.38 to $5.43 per acre. $5 an acre? Yeah. That doesn't seem like a lot of money. It seems like a very minute amount actually.

1:23:36 You have 100 acres, you get 500 bucks. Well, I guess if you had 10,000 acres, it's better than poking an eye out with a sharp stick, but there's got to be some way of getting in on this. Because people do it. If you watch the Green Channel, I was watching this crappy Green Channel, and I gravitate toward this stuff like it's normal because i'm a it's like watching a car wreck to thin line anyway love and hate john in slow motion so anyway so they're going on in the skies on their he sees that uh... tom whatever his name is the goddess place on videos he does is dinner party tom bears your arms dinner party and they have a bunch of people to gather around and they're all green nut balls and they go on and on about one thing or another how they really like how they like to have their carrots cook and uh...

1:24:24 And so the goes the show goes on and pretty soon they get into this you know I kind of like you know Insightful discussion as it were and this one guy Chimes and he says you know I was buying my airline ticket and then on there on the website There was an option do I want to offset your carbon? Carbon credit thing and he says I did it and it cost me like for my ticket to New York it cost me $8 to offset the carbon credit and I felt really good about it and And it was painless. I'm thinking painless? They just took six dollars from me for what? You don't know. And where does it go? What do they do with that six dollars?

1:25:03 They, well I think they probably do what I'm thinking which is they stick a tree in the dirt. Untilled soil. And untilled soil. If that, I mean who knows. They plant a seed. They plant one seed. It's a six dollar seed. That's the business we should be in. Why don't you plant your own seed? No, why don't we just find out a place that, so Canada clearly is not worth it. uh... but i'm sure there's many other places and you should be able to discuss the tons of scans we can get in on we plan to see and it's not a scam and it's not a scam for saving the earth that's the first time you've used my name on the show beware this so anyway we need to you're right we need to find some but i'm thinking you know there's that i think planning trees is has to be done anyway and and i was willing you know get a carbon credit for

1:25:58 What is a tree worth in carbon credit dollars? Let's ask Google. What is a tree worth in carbon credit dollars? Now what about this for an idea? You buy one of those Christmas tree farms and then you close it. Yeah. So people can't chop down the tree. Yeah, that's it. But I bet you it costs a lot of money. And then you resell it as a carbon credit. I'm just gonna be look. I'm just gonna be on the lookout for carbon credits everywhere What is a carbon? Oh, this is interesting six trees $300 what wait a minute that doesn't make sense hold on Wow what is this? What is a car? This is an interesting site? It's true definition is the ESO or exchange soil offset or more popular leak yeah hold on oh

1:27:00 This is good information. They talk about... Oh, man. Hold on. You'll like this. I think Gore's onto something here. Yeah, yeah. Of course he is. Today is the first day of new currency that is very much like the real carbon credit. Note the word currency. The Save the Planet carbon credit is officially launched this day, September 1st, 2005 to a less than rapturous welcome from all who use her. Let's call them credits because in science fiction films credits are the currency of the future anyway. Yeah, no shit. The 20 credit note would be entitled the holder to drive for 20 weeks at current technology levels. I believe this is really where we're going. I don't know. You see this picture of the 20 carbon credit note? They have a note here with the Queen on it. This is a New Zealand site. They have a 20 credit carbon credit, which is probably what the thing would look like.

1:27:52 Except for the watermark that says save the planet and I like it. I like the power lines. You like that little the pylons there? It's hilarious. I'll blog it for anybody. And there's a little map there of what looks like bush gardens. That's funny. Is this for real? Look at the back. The back has two windmills, two wind turbines. Pay the bearer 20 weeks driving in return for 20 carbon credits. Cool. Where'd you get the back? I don't see the back. Scroll down. According to Tufts, an average 25-year-old maple tree absorbs 1.1 kilo of CO2 per year. Over 25 years, that's 27.5 kilos, means that 36 trees are needed to absorb one ton of CO2, and with each tree costing $50, each carbon credit tree costs at least 50 times 36 trees is $1,800. Otherwise, there is more value in felling the trees.

1:28:51 Using these trees to give estimates to their carbon value gives very expensive carbon credit prices. Oh, man Hmm. We had this is this warrants some investigation actually I think so it's gonna take a little bit well get used to it I like you know I'm gonna carry a couple of these around on my wall. I'm gonna print them and cut them out people There's a there's not a lot of people working in manufacturing you know you get you put you put a shack up on about five hundred acres in the Washington State Mountains and that you own that you pick up cheap or you lease and you put a shack up there and put some guy in there with a with a one of those little shovels that got a little twisting you poke a hole in the ground you twist and then you pull out a kind of a cork pops out of dirt and you stick a tree in there

1:29:43 And this will be this guy's job, instead of working at a factory and making products. And you know, you can pay him. So you have a computer up there and you send him that many carbon credits and he has to plant the trees and you have an inspector go up there so it's official, make sure he's actually doing it. You know what? I think for 2009, that should be our task. We need to find a carbon offset based business. that we can sell to our listeners. Or whoever. Well, no, we'll do that with... Can't we do that with t-shirts? It's like we'll attach a carbon credit to it somehow? Carbon credit. We could. Yeah, of course we could. That'd be a good gimmick. Yeah. Alright. One carbon credit t-shirt.

1:30:31 So we'd have to actually if the trees are what they are we can probably plant one tree in my backyard And and then attach that to the t-shirts and that would be probably make up for all the t-shirts. We're gonna sell I'm sorry about that Okay All right enough frivolity. Yes indeed an hour and a half hour and 42 How do we get away with it a lot of it was probably at the beginning when we were trying to set up? mmm Not really. So next week we'll try some phone calls. And then I'll be ready to do it with you every single day, John. There you go. We should just go live, do an hour, take some calls, and then stop. Either that or I'm going to do it by myself with a daily source code. I might do two shows a day. You could. You got nothing but Gab in you. The gift of Gab. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom, I'm Adam Curry.

1:31:37 I'm John C. DeVorek here in Silicon Valley North also known as Gitmo Nation West. I'm John C. DeVorek, I said that twice. And we'll talk again next week right here on No Agenda.