Episode 635 · Thursday, 24 July 2014

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A tragic aviation disaster in Ukraine coincides with a massive shift in global banking as the BRICS nations challenge Western financial dominance from South America.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 635

About this episode

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 has been shot down over Ukraine, sparking immediate geopolitical accusations against Vladimir Putin and separatist groups in Donetsk. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the rapid media narrative formation on CNN, noting the suspicious timing of CIA Director John Brennan’s presence in the region and the appearance of pristine Dutch passports in crash site wreckage. The event carries heavy NATO implications as the flight originated in Amsterdam, potentially serving as a pretext for military escalation.

Global financial power shifts as Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa launch a $50 billion development bank in Fortaleza to rival the IMF. In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel faces scrutiny over her ties to Gazprom while her government considers returning to manual typewriters to evade NSA surveillance. Domestic issues include the FCC proposing a Presidential Giant Voice system for mobile alerts, the State Department spending $630,000 on Facebook likes, and Congressman Thomas Massie demanding the release of 28 classified pages from the 9/11 Commission Report. Public health warnings also emerge as the WHO promotes Gilead Sciences' Truvada while pharmaceutical giants Pfizer and others pull back from critical antibiotic research.

Broadcasting from the new South Austin Safehouse in FEMA Region 6, the hosts celebrate the open-sourcing of the No Agenda search engine on GitHub. Between knighting ceremonies for Timothy Singleton and Robert Mueller, the duo mocks Carol Costello’s lunar skepticism and the viral Comcast cancellation saga of Ryan Block. The session concludes with a 94-point Parker wine that left everyone but the professional drinkers with a headache.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

South Austin Safehouse and Professional Drinking

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 635 of the No Agenda show, broadcasting for the first time from the South Austin Safehouse in FEMA Region 6. The hosts discuss a 94-point Parker wine from K&L that reportedly caused headaches for everyone except the professional drinkers.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· south austin· fema region 6· k&l wine

00:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, oxidated silver. We can sell that on the show! We could? Yeah, yeah. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 17, 2014, time for your Gidmonation Media Assassination, Episode 635. This is no agenda. Transmitting live for the first time from the South Austin Safehouse. Still in FEMA Region 6, the capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And sitting here in Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning! Okay?

00:37 What did I say? It was kind of like, well... Yeah, alright. Not by 2012, bodegas castano solanera vignes vias. What is that? What is that? Yes. What is that? A 94 point Parker wine available at K&L's gives you a headache. Oh, do you have a headache right now? No, this is from a couple days ago. I didn't get a headache, but everybody else did. Well, you're a professional. What do you expect? A professional guy. A professional drinker. Gets fewer headaches than the average bear. Exactly. It crashed. Yeah, I was watching that. So, you know, we're here in the new studio and so I have everything kind of set up where I can see stuff.

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Shot Down Over Ukraine

Initial reports indicate Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 from Amsterdam has been shot down over Ukraine. Speculation centers on Russian involvement or separatist groups, while the hosts note the presence of U.S. politicians like John McCain and CIA Director John Brennan in the region prior to the event.

mh17· amsterdam· ukraine· putin· john mccain

01:28 Was it AP reporting? Let me see. This is a flight, by the time you hear this, if you're not listening live, flight MH17 from Amsterdam. So getting a lot of news in obviously, it being from the hometown. So we'll find, I'm sure there were Dutch people on board and it's always gonna be crap like that. Let's see. AP says it was allegedly shot down. Why? Wow, what do you mean why? Why? I don't know. It's flying over Ukraine, so obviously it's a danger. The Russians did it. I'm sure it's all going to come back to... Putin! I thought I was a Ukrainian bomber. There's going to be something bad. These are the kinds of things that make it all start.

02:23 Well, that's the area where these things begin. Yeah, it usually is. Somebody's itching to do this apparently, it seems to me. Well, they gotta light it up somehow, you know, it's just not going fast enough. They've had everybody over there. Brennan's been over there, McCain is over there. I think McCain has a beach house. What? What? What? What? What do you mean what? What? In Ukraine. McCain? McCain's always in Ukraine. What's he doing there? He's posing with neo-Nazis. He's doing selfies with the right sector. He and Noodleman are hanging out. Yeah. Yeah, no, these guys really want to light it up. So, you know, this will be perfect. It'll be the Russian separatists or some, you know, Russian backed group who will have shot this plane down. And that will be enough to, of course, this is... Of course, it won't be them at all, but that's okay.

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

BRICS Nations Launch New Financial Institutions

Leaders from Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa meet in Fortaleza, Brazil, to launch a $50 billion development bank and a $100 billion currency reserve fund. This move is intended to rival the U.S.-dominated IMF and World Bank, though skeptics question if the funding is sufficient to shift global financial influence.

brics· imf· world bank· xi jinping· vladimir putin

03:14 And we really don't even know anything yet. This is all, you know, it's lost radar contact and we have a video of some smoke. But we just don't know. It's alright, we'll see. But it is these kinds of things that make it happen sometimes. Well that and I think there's going to be some heads rolling here and there, literally. Play the clip, which I think is the most interesting thing of the week, to be honest about it. Play the clip France 24 bricks. Yeah, gee, walking right into my trap. We're talking BRICS fever. Moving on. This is the group of emerging economies known as BRICS. So Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa leaders in those countries are meeting today. They're set to launch two new financial institutions to rival the World Bank and the IMF.

04:05 They'll be contributing to a $100 billion fund to help fight future financial crises. But they're also going to finalise details of a development bank designed to provide loans for infrastructure projects across the block. This is because emerging economies say that institutions like the IMF are too US-dominated. William Hildebrandt has more. Faced with what they say is American dominance, the BRICS nations are taking matters into their own hands. Each of the five members will contribute $10 billion to the creation of a $50 billion development bank, and they will also approve the creation of a $100 billion currency reserve fund, with China contributing more than 40%.

04:47 Western media have said that developing countries can no longer play a vital role in global economic growth. But that is not the case. The leaders of the world's five largest emerging markets hope the moves provide a counterbalance to institutions like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, with easier lending and less restrictions. Emerging countries have felt that the conditionality of the IMF has been extremely heavy to carry. It's kind of interference into their political system, so they want to be independent financially. Though BRICS countries are now facing difficulties. At just over 5.3 percent, economic growth for the group is roughly half the pace seven years ago. So I think this time it's really like indeed to sit down

05:35 Discuss the issue to discuss the future about bricks because not currently people cannot joking bricks now only One maybe break left as a China well bricks members look to shift the balance Critics say either the development bank nor the reserve fund will be enough to boost their waning influence I I do want to point out just in case you had maybe forgotten that two months ago. I said this was taking place and And this is the stepping stone towards the SDR as the reserve currency. You do remember this, right? When you kind of scoffed at me? Yeah, I didn't notice any mention of the SDR. Don't worry.

06:13 It makes nothing but sense. And it doesn't, it's not going to work. If you remember what I said, it's not going to work and this stupid plan is not going to work. It's going to go nowhere. Well, I'm not saying it's going to work. I'm just saying this is what their plan is. I'm not, I'm not, again, I mean, you have this thing. No, no. You keep thinking that I want this to happen or something. You're promoting this. I'm predicting that the next thing they'll be talking about is the SDR, which I said initially. You predicted it was going to take over. It will? No. I don't think I predicted it would take over. They were going to try to do this and that's why the 2010 IMF reforms need to be, everyone's pushing for these to be ratified in Congress here in the United States so that China can take in the number two spot. And this is just another step in it. And this is another piece. And you see all those pictures. We've got Putin hanging out with everybody.

07:08 And the South African guy and the Chinese guy. The South African guy looks so out of place. But their whole... He and the... There's a bubble, there's a cartoon bubble over his head that says, what am I doing here? Did you notice that he's holding hands with the Chinese guy the whole time? Well, he's... They're like lovers. They're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, this is very interesting. No, this is of course hundred billion dollars is nothing no it's just the bugger these guys will have that ripped off 100 million not doesn't Apple have a hundred billion dollars or they had it right less now Yeah, it's not it's not a lot of money. It just sounds big Shoot made the board and also probably has a hundred million dollar hundred billion dollars in his shoe Well, maybe not

07:56 I just think that this is a development. Then the reporting, of course, from the French who are in on the IMF, they're not very amenable. And then the other report which I have is a similar report, you don't have to play it, but NHK. the Japanese who aren't too pleased about this. You know, these reports are long, man. It's like a three minute report. Very negative. Very negative. Yeah, you don't have to play it. I missed a little bit. The leaders from five emerging nations are challenging the global system of finance dominated by the West. The heads of the BRICS countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa want a greater role on the world stage, but they don't all agree on how that should play out.

08:36 NHK world's Akihiro Mikoda explains. At the summit held in the Brazilian city of Fortaleza, Chinese President Xi Jinping was out to strengthen cooperation between the BRICS economies and other developing countries. Russia, which is becoming increasingly isolated, gave strong support to Xi's push for a global realignment. Now this isn't, the timing is kind of interesting of all of this. We have the president of our United States of Gitmo nation pretending, you know, to be the badass again, announcing more sanctions.

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

German-Russian Relations and Sausage Price Fixing

German Chancellor Angela Merkel faces domestic pressure regarding her interactions with Vladimir Putin at the World Cup. Meanwhile, former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's role on the board of Gazprom is highlighted alongside a news report that German sausage makers were fined $461 million for price fixing.

angela merkel· vladimir putin· gazprom· gerhard schroeder· germany

09:17 So the Russians can't I guess they can't borrow money from us or something is And then and then he's going to check and you'll try and coordinate it with Europe Yeah, we're gonna try and coordinate these sanctions see if if Merkel will will do something Merkel's died. This is just putting pressure on Merkel She's not going for any of this crap You know that two of them met up and had a good time in the at the World Cup They sure look like it didn't they the United States at that event? At the world. No, of course not We were I don't think we were invited we were in the tournament. Yeah, but not after that You know, there's no hotel rooms. Even the Dutch didn't have hotel rooms They didn't have to the after the the court the the semifinals everyone knew what was going on. No, no Yeah, but they're planning their scheming and Merkel is a is you know is? Being scoffed at now back home for her little tata tat they have pictures of her and Vladimir. Oh

10:15 And also Gerhard Schroeder, you remember him? Oh yeah. Isn't he a part of the one of the big pipeline projects? I think he was... I have no idea what he's up to. I think he was running one of the pipeline things. One of those big... The one that went through Poland, wasn't that the guy? Let's take a look. And he killed everybody in Poland to make it work? Anyway, he was Germany's social democrat leader in the late 1990s. I guess all the way through 2004, 2005. And yeah, no, he's on the board of Gazprom. That's what he is. He's on the board of Gazprom. Oh, there you go. Yeah, and he was hanging out at Vladimir's birthday party, taking selfies. And the German's like, what are you doing, man? This is not how it's supposed to be.

11:01 Yeah, no, the Germans aren't supposed to be in bed with the Russians. Yeah, but they are. They are. Well, we'll just take it into the segment for a second. It's not the way we like to see things. No, because we know it's Deutschland Blitzkrieg! Deutschland Blitzkrieg! Deutschland Blitzkrieg! In the continuing Krieg against the Deutschlanders. And my prediction, by the way, is that the Germans will be supporters of the new... Of the new Brinks? Oh yeah. German sausage makers fine $461 million for price fixing by who by Regulators, let me see this is the cartel office. I guess the sausage regulators Apparently there's guys who are in charge of the sausage market. Oh

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

German Intelligence Returns to Typewriters to Evade NSA

German officials are reportedly considering the use of manual typewriters to prevent NSA surveillance, echoing previous Russian security tactics. The discussion touches on the futility of "secure" devices like the Blackphone, suggesting that true privacy requires disconnecting from the internet entirely.

nsa· edward snowden· typewriters· blackphone· molly wood

11:58 Jeez! 21 companies and 33 individuals... Oops, I meant this one. We're fined. That's a lot of money for price fix. I would have thought they'd be there'd be a racket in sausage Just not expecting that that's true whatever price you want. I love this story This is so typical now you recall when Snowden when all that's first start coming down and there was maybe it was even pre Snowden where they were talking about Russia the The FSB going back to using typewriters because the Americans, you know, couldn't spy on their typewriters. Oh, well, here it is. German probe turns to typewriters to avoid the NSA. Apparently that's the only way if you're, if you're not with the Americans, the only way you can avoid the almighty NSA is to pull out the trustee Corona and go back to your typewriter. I think it's going to be a boom in typewriters.

12:55 Yeah, this is so bogus. Bogus. Bogative, I'm sorry. How many countries are gonna do this? It's always the same, it's always the same message. Somebody pointed out on Twitter, why don't you just get off the internet? Exactly, just disconnect the thing or whatever. I got a note from Molly Wood yesterday, she writes for the New York Times now. And I guess she's been tasked of doing a review of the black phone. And this is, you know, I haven't, I've looked into it a couple of times and it's, you know, apparently, oh, it's all sandboxed. And I'm like, why did you just don't carry a phone? It's not so much the phone is when you're connected to the network. That's the problem. They know your location, although that isn't all that accurate with the cell triangulation. No, but then you know, a town you're in.

13:53 Actually, it turns out there's been a couple of court cases that have been overturned and the way the cell switching technology works, you can actually wind up being connected to a cell that is easily 20 miles away. And people have been released out of jail for, you know, as inconclusive evidence because of this. It's not necessarily always true that the triangulation system can pinpoint you into a town even. Well, and keep you in a state. Yeah. But anyway, it's just... Were you in California? Which one of the six? But regardless, it's um... Yeah, it's just, yeah, get off the internet. It's that easy. Don't carry a phone. You really don't need it.

14:40 and the typewriter yeah but advocate you might as well give up on this no no i don't love carrying the phone they love to be on the phone just go outside and look around looking at the phone they're talking at the phone there i saw we were we had a quick bite to eat last night we were still unpacking boxes and she and mickey and i are walking up south congress And this girl is walking down, she has her phone, but she's not really looking down, it's kind of midway between looking down and straight ahead, I guess so she wouldn't bump into any other human beings. And then she's just laughing. It's very surreal. Watching YouTube videos. I don't know, it felt like she was reading a tweet. Oh, that's hilarious. Walking on the street, reading the tweets. Yeah, it's kind of sad.

CHAPTER 06 / 42 Discussion

Adam Curry's New Studio Setup in Austin

Adam Curry describes the process of setting up his new recording studio in Austin, which he has dubbed the South Austin Safehouse. He details the acoustic challenges of the new space and his efforts to simplify his technical setup using Universal Audio equipment.

south austin· studio· universal audio· travis heights· mickey

15:30 So we are in the in the new place and the connection seems okay. It seems to be working okay Yeah, it's fair your uplink is not up to par, but really you having issues. Yeah, well if I do yeah Yeah, what should be less good? What are you hearing? Just break up once in a while hmm, okay? You sound great, which is all that matters of course well if you're recording of course yes But if I was recording on my end it would be horrible yeah, and and there's a reason we don't record on your end there is Yeah, cuz you're producing the show this many many real reason many reasons bull crap Yeah, but this is I think it's gonna be kind of nice and I was trying to come up with a name before the show and I just went with

16:21 South Austin safe house that's kind of you know it is the third time we've moved in as many years here in Austin's we're apparently running from the law and And how I say hey, what should we call the play Mickey's like oh the dove place? The dove house Mickey's house no This is how that's a good one. No. That's not good. That's not this not a rock and roll name That's not cool. Dove house the dove love The dove love nest are you closer or farther away from downtown a little bit further away? So we're the name of that neighborhood again that you're in now

17:00 It's no longer Travis Heights. It's the original 04 zip code, I think. It's an interesting neighborhood here. I heard it's deteriorating. From your Austin friends? Is that who told you that? Since we moved in, possibly. Exactly. Wow, man, I'm so tired. It is so tiring doing this. Are you done unpacking? No, no. Well, when did you move in officially? Officially, let's see, it was the, what is today? Thursday. So Tuesday, everything was in, then it was, you know, boxes and then we spent... Boxes. Yeah. And we spent all day, well, of course that night and then

17:49 All day yesterday, and I have to build up an entire studio. It's still it's still a little boomy I need some more things on the wall And I'm just trying to dive as you put on the wall of your studio well What we did is the one wall all of our books are now behind me and that really works well and have a carpet on the floor It's just the wall right across from me is if you did a cam if you did a cam you'd have books behind you Yeah, okay It's nice though. I think we're going to be really happy here. For a month. Do you actually get unpacked? No, no, no. That's going to stay packed. I think that's your best bet. No, the idea now is to divest of as much as possible. I think there's so much crap. I must have enough for 18 studios and now that everything's so small and we're on the universal audio thing, it's completely clean. I've almost no wires. Everything's been stripped away. I'll post a picture too so people can see it.

CHAPTER 07 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Search Engine Open Sourced

The developer of the No Agenda search engine has officially open-sourced the project on GitHub to ensure its longevity. The tool allows producers to search through years of show notes and transcripts, including full text bodies of linked articles.

no agenda search· github· open source· search engine· show notes

18:50 But then I just had a newsletter don't post anything Always thinking always on the job People love pictures of you The no agenda search which is I don't do you use that have you tried that yet? Yeah, it's great dot in a show notes calm. It's really really good and Donna who Donna I asked him how do you pronounce it? D-O-N-A-G-H. It's an interesting name. Is that like one of those weird hippie names? That is a Irish name, very old-fashioned. Oh, of course it is. Donna. Donna. Doona. Donna.

19:31 He's open source. He says him and I'd say Adam. Thanks for the credit on the show Glad it held up when you tried it live by the FYI the reason some of the matches didn't seem to make sense for Putin and dogs is because it also searches text bodies as some so the words would Have been in there somewhere. I might add highlighting to results, but for various reasons that gets ugly fast I agree because we also have all the full text of the articles most of them at least in the show notes anyway Just want to let you know that for future reference I fully open sourced the no agenda search And he's put it on git github and then he says so if I get hit by a bus and you want to rehost Somewhere it should be pretty easy to do okay, and hopefully hopefully doesn't get hit by a bus But maybe some other producers would be inclined to expand on on the search that'll be in the show notes

20:20 So they can help us out with it. I'm pretty impressed with it. I think that's a great search engine I've been using it a lot in the past couple of days. I've just to find stuff. It's I'm reconstructing the studio here's like where's that clip? Fine stuff okay in the studio. Yeah, well I reconstructed the computer as well The main show computer it was time to you how many times did you say it's time to reboot that sucker? Yes, I say that commonly because you need to reboot it more right so I've I've worked on it, okay Let's see what's going on around get monation. Ah the new inspire magazine is out John oh

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

NYPD Warns of Al-Qaeda Inspired Magazine Threats

NYPD officials warn that Al-Qaeda's Inspire magazine is providing instructions for lone-wolf terrorists to target high-profile events like the U.S. Open. The hosts suggest the mention of the tennis tournament may be a promotional tactic or a way to humanize intelligence warnings despite no specific threats.

nypd· bill bratton· inspire magazine· us open· terrorism

21:03 You know I don't I never look at it because I don't want to be put on the blacklist as you know I know you always I subscribe to the RSS feed just to make sure I always get the latest edition of inspire magazine and it is once again inspirational briefing for members of New York City's private security community, the NYPD's Director of Intelligence Analysis, Rebecca Weiner, warned Al-Qaeda-inspired magazines are instructing would-be terrorists how to make bombs and where to set them off. Among the suggested targets is the U.S. Open, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. She stresses there are no specific threats.

21:38 But police commissioner Bill Bratton says the biggest concern is lone wolves who operate under law enforcement's radar. 2000 years ago the expression was all roads lead to Rome. Well in 2014 as it relates to this subject matter, terrorism, unfortunately all roads lead to New York City. Right. How would all roads lead to Baghdad or Aleppo or Berlin? Dude, you're so... If I was the US Open committee, I'd be irked with the CIA for putting this in that magazine. And it's not even really in the magazine. It doesn't say US Open. They just made that up. Where did they come up with that then? They just made it up. It even says there's no specific threats, but the magazine shows how you make bombs. Why did they mention the US Open? Well, did you know the US Open was starting in a couple weeks?

22:31 Well, I know now. Yeah, huh? But if I was a golfer, I'd go and I wouldn't, I'm not going to walk. Oh, the U S open. I'm not a golfer. I don't care to watch golf on television, but now that they reminded me, I'm going to definitely watch this. No, no, but it was a, yeah. If you just say it was a plug. I don't think it was a good plug. I mean now there probably some people won't go to it. Oh, honey Don't go to the US Open you can go watch these guy was that I went to the US Open Let me ask you a question. The US Open lost a fortune Yeah, now what do you expect to see golf when you're at the US Open or tennis because I was expecting tennis Oh, they're talking tennis. Well, the US Open is in New York. Okay, that's yeah, I went I've been to that too That's the tennis match

23:15 Well, that's even more close Yeah, that's gonna be a good one if someone lights it also been refers to golf and tennis And I probably some other also bowling I believe It's okay, it's alright. I'm not only laughing. I see they got you well that do then the promotion didn't work very well did it? And by the way well the US Open yeah, that's a jip another one It's the same thing this the ticket prices are just not affordable. Go look it up. Oh I fail to understand why you would want to go sit in the stadium to watch almost any sport really but certainly tennis. Hockey's fun. I went to one game in my life and I didn't see the puck ever. Get some new glasses. No, I couldn't. It was too fast. It was too fast for me. You know, that doesn't surprise me. Well, we're in a mood today.

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

CIA Cafeteria Complaints and MuckRock FOIA Requests

Documents obtained via the Freedom of Information Act reveal mundane complaints from CIA employees regarding their office cafeteria, including issues with condiment packets and Pepsi dispensers. The hosts argue these reports are part of a larger effort to humanize the agency through social media and platforms like MuckRock.

cia· muckrock· foia· msnbc· twitter

24:13 Here's what the mainstream media is really concerned about. All the work, all the things you can do, let's abuse the Freedom of Information Act for the benefit of the public and get CIA lunchroom gossip. I'm sorry. And then run it. Otherwise, we probably never have seen the light of day. And today, that means that we all now know that the cafeteria at the CIA is pretty much just like the cafeteria at any other office cubicle farm in America. The website Muck Rock.

24:48 posted this set of documents a while back and today they reposted them and so a bunch of people including us found it for the first time. It is a treasure trove of CIA employee complaints specifically about the office cafeteria. This is the stuff that rattles them. Quote, please put back the individual package packets of ketchup, mustard and mayonnaise two times this week. I heard folks make comments about these pump boxes. Comments have been made indicating this process is cumbersome, a pain in the neck and is causing frustration to some people. It would be appreciated by many to put out the individual condiment packets.

25:24 I had the Russian meal today and am disappointed. First of all, to try to be cute with a substitute, a backward R, a yeah for an R. It's tacky. Please realize that many of us have really traveled to these countries. And when you provide food like you did today, it causes me to not support this kind of cuisine in the future. Last week and then again this week, I have talked to numerous cafe employees to inform them that the Pepsi coming out of the regular Pepsi spout is diet Pepsi. They have the wrong Pepsi tank hooked up to the wrong Pepsi spout. No one has fixed this problem. Why has this problem not been fixed? The feedback really isn't all that bad. This person thanks the CIA cafeteria for finally fixing the salad dressing area. But the one thing to learn from this particular cache of CIA office complaints is that all of these all these folks need when you're not in the middle of some covert operation or drumming up classified intelligence briefing is almonds on their cream of wheat, a few ketchup packets, maybe a regular Pepsi, Spock

26:16 They're just like us. Have you lost your mind? You know, this is MSNBC at its best. And, you know, these are analysts that are office workers, essentially. And they're grousing about stuff that people would grouse about in an office, especially a large office like that. So what? But when you look at the overall picture, particularly the CIA tweets, You know, you're going to expect people to be, oh my goodness, let's see what they're up to, what they're doing. And they're trying to be kind of normal. I would say this is more a plant from the CIA than anything. You mean from muck rock or whatever it is that we've never heard of? And these guys had to mention it that they've no one's ever heard of the website by saying, you know, they did this, they posted this months ago and they had to post it again to get some attention.

27:09 Yeah, I think I think yeah Yeah, look at the look at the CIA Twitter account. They're continuously trying to humanize themselves Yeah, be cute humanize themselves and then you know and this and muck rack is it muck rack muck rock I think it's not something. Yeah, let's take a look. They've been around I think they've been really they've actually done some pretty good stuff in the past Because I don't know that we've ever yeah, I think so no I think they also do connections between political people and their... Muckrack journalists on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Our team is ready to help you by phone. Muckrack live chat and email. Plans and pricing. Hey, you can get Muckrack Search Pro. Nice. We should have a Search Pro. Charge money. Yeah. Search... What is this?

28:10 It's like, uh, hmm. It's like the Noah Jenner News Network. They got a whole bunch of sources on the left and they got stories in the middle. Like tweets. It's a Twitter thing. Oh, pfft. Wow. Alright. Yeah, that's dumb. Who's already using MuckRack, Storify, Flashpoint, HubSpot, and all the other big names. Yeah, it's probably, they're probably making money doing it. No. A fair bit of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're aggregating and they're selling it back to people. Trust me, I know this business. Nobody's buying it. Not a lot of money, but they're making money doing this. They're probably overstaffed.

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

Moon Landing Anniversary and Space Tourism Scams

On the 45th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the hosts discuss the legacy of the event and the skepticism surrounding it. They criticize modern space tourism ventures led by figures like Richard Branson, labeling them as scams designed to collect deposits for flights that may never occur.

apollo 11· buzz aldrin· bart sibrel· richard branson· space tourism

28:49 They got a CEO who's doing heroin, I'm sorry, I mean the rest of Silicon Valley that's my yeah, I might not be doing heroin Anyway today of course is July 17th. It's a historic day the day when the largest Psychological hoax was propagated upon the entire world one of the first ones in mass media communications what? Well the the moon landing of course. Yeah, I knew you were gonna go there. I do have a clip Actually have the right clip, but you I got the clip it was got a moon guy like you moon landing anniversary I'm glad you took the time Walter Cronkite wasn't tweeting in 1969 You know they took this woman what's her name again from CNN she used to have a career yeah, and and she gets to do all the funny like the snarky

29:45 throw away lines. Nobody in journalism has a career anymore. It's really... I do not like her reports. Whenever she comes on it's like, oh okay, it's gonna be tongue-in-cheek, little quirks, quips, little quirks. Like this one. Walter Cronkite wasn't tweeting in the beginning of his career. No, okay, thank you, moron. Walter Cronkite wasn't tweeting in 1969, but his immediate reaction to the launch was so short and sweet it could have fit in a tweet. Lift off on Apollo 11. 45 years after the moonwalk, there's a guy who tells us he still thinks it was a giant fraud, that all moonwalks were fake. Bart Simbrell is most famous for hounding astronaut Buzz Aldrin. Buzz finally punched him. You're a coward and a liar.

30:41 We did it you can call that mission a perfect Perfect 10 all right genie mo sheriffs Yeah, that is kind of funny when Buzz Aldrin cold cocks that guy. I know. Right in the face. He looks hilarious. But of course... Buzz Aldrin was a tough guy. He looks like one of those tough guys. Yeah, but he's also... You remember that Dutch company, the Space Flight Company, which was owned by...

31:21 It was like the big scam for rich people. Like, yeah, you're going to fly on our spacecraft one day, but in the meantime, give us a $10,000 for your first training mission, another $10,000 for your zero G. So Buzz Aldrin was in on that scam. He was on the board of advisors or board of directors. And by the way, they sold the company And essentially all they were doing is they were putting together promotions with big consumer brands. Hey, if you buy our coffee and snip out five coupons, then you could win a trip to space.

31:57 It's just soaking everybody and this will not happen. In our lifetime, you and I will be dead and no one will have gone on Richard Branson's little stupid intergalactic bull crap and no one will be flying around on these Dutch guys' spacecraft. It's a farce. This is like the places that freeze your head. Exactly. Same thing. Yeah, you'll be safe. Wishful thinking. We promise we will defrost your head when science is far enough to save you. The science is in! So Carol CNN at Carol CNN, facebook.com slash Carol CNN had Chris Hadfield on today. Do you know who he is? You love this woman. I do. Because sometimes she says some things... Can I say something here? Yeah.

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

Carol Costello Questions Why Humans Haven't Returned to the Moon

CNN's Carol Costello interviews astronaut Chris Hadfield, asking why humans have not returned to the moon since the Apollo missions. The discussion evolves into a debate between the hosts regarding the existence of secret moon bases and the strategic military value of the lunar surface.

carol costello· cnn· chris hadfield· moon bases· international space station

32:46 I turn to CNN now more than before because of this you and this adoration of this Carol woman. I have never seen her on. You gotta get on the morning, man. Oh, morning. Right now Anderson Cooper's on because we have something worthwhile. Bring a Vanderbilt in. That's a crash site. This is weird. They're showing pictures of people with Not at a crash site, but like they got a piece of plane, I guess landed in their front yard or something. And enough with the courtesy flight radar 24 people. This is not proof of anything. Anyway. Okay, so... We will have, by the way, I should remind people because of Adam and his perverted interests.

33:28 We will have the coverage of this flight crash. Of course, because I... Unparalleled in broadcasting history. In all of broadcast history. Sunday! Sunday! Chris Hadfield. Are you familiar with Chris Hadfield? Yeah, I've heard of him. And do you know what he does? I don't remember. He's an astronaut, of course. So he's on with Carroll CNN. And of course he's one of these astronauts who has been up in the space shuttle. But at this time, how many people have been up in the space shuttle? Everywhere you turn, oh he was in the space shuttle. It used to be cool, like oh yeah it was the astronaut. I said whatever. Learning Russian while you're up there.

34:12 And the space shuttle is just orbiting around... Oh, the Russians will take anyone to space. Yeah, for the right amount of money. So the space shuttle is just the... The international space station, you know, it's just orbiting around the Earth. It's like a satellite. And ham radio guys can talk to it all the time. You can get the APRS coordinates. It's not like a big deal, okay? This is not the moon. The moon, even though it looks kind of close, is a little bit further out there than the international space station. And here is Carol CNN, and this is why I watch her, this is why I love her, and she asks the very obvious question, and says, you know, even though it may be scripted, and he's supposed to give a scripted answer, she says, why haven't we been back to the moon? Because of course she, like I, I think she's about my age, we remember when our parents got us up July 17th, you know, whoa, the guys landed on the moon, and then we went outside, and look, oh, look up there, they're walking on the moon right now.

35:08 That was the giant psychological trick. Oh, thank you Carol! This is why I watch! This is a question. Backpedaling. You know we send out probes everywhere. That's how we've always explored everywhere through the all over the surface of the world. You send out probes, you find out what's going on and then eventually you start moving there and that's how we've spread over the entire planet including Antarctica. Wait a minute. She said why haven't we been back to the moon and now he's talking about probes and this is how we've learned about Antarctica?

35:49 Huh? What? Oh, wow, yes, those space probes are so handy for finding out about Antarctica. Thank you. And then eventually you start moving there. That's how we spread over the entire planet, including Antarctica. He's not saying planet. He's not saying universe or Milky Way, saying the entire planet. We send our probes to the entire planet. And that's how we got to Antarctica. Well, you know, she asks obvious questions, which reminds me, I have an obvious question for you. Can I just finish this clip and then you can ask me the obvious question? That's how we've spread over the entire planet, including Antarctica. And we were in the probe phase over the last 50 years in space. About a dozen or 13 years ago, we started permanently living on the space station. So we've sort of moved into the settlement phase.

36:37 Eventually, it'll go from the space station to the moon and to Mars. But it's just a natural, explorative process. And the six people up on the station right now, they're celebrating the anniversary, but they're also testing the equipment that'll let us go further. And they're pretty proud people from all around the Earth. Yeah, we always forget they're actually doing work up there. No, they're not. They're just up there just lounging about. We're doing experiments. Oh, yes, experiments. This is bull crap. This guy didn't answer the question, he answered it by saying, oh yes, this is just the next phase. What, you're up, you're, I can, you can see the space station with the naked eye as it flies over. This is crap. Why have we not been back to the moon? Very good question. And to answer that by saying, well, we send probes to Antarctica all the time. No. Well, the real answer is it's not worth the effort. Let me ask you a question since you're doubting Thomas.

37:35 And there's plenty of people like you, most of them won't admit it in public. Correct. Because you get ridiculed and kicked off shows. How can you believe that we've not been to the moon, but at the same time, and I could probably dig up the clip of this, you claim there was an Israeli moon base. Okay, so I will answer this to you. I am not saying we have not been to the moon. I don't think I said Israeli moon base. I said there are moon bases. No, no. Okay, whatever. Fine. Israeli. Maybe I said it then. It doesn't matter. There might be. There's probably Russian moon bases. Okay, but you have a modified version. You're saying that- No, it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. Can I explain it? Let me- No, because you're misquoting me. I never said Israeli- I never said Israeli moon base. You did. John, you can't remember what I said three weeks ago. That's beside the point. Okay.

38:23 I remember the seminal moments. And Israeli moon base is one of them. Alright, fine. Israeli moon base. And space ladders. I know I've said this. That moment in time, see the civilian population, they're being told something completely different. We did not land on the moon in the manner that it was shown to us on television at the time. I don't think this guy, sure he's been on the space station, he hasn't been to the moon, he's just flown around, he's a little bit higher than a Concorde, not that much. You know, okay. It's really not such a big deal. You know, we've got satellites. That's the technology we've had since John Glenn flew around in Mercury. You know, this is, yeah, okay, we're doing that. Now, do we have off earth forces? Yes. Are they on the moon? Are they on moon bases? Yes. I totally believe that. But this story, this is just bull crap. All of this is, and this guy doesn't know any better either.

39:22 So there's a difference between what we're being lied about and certainly back in the 60s and what is actually taking place. And I think of course the moon is very relevant. It's incredibly relevant. It's a very strategic position. Look at what you can shoot at from up there. Oh, yeah, you can nail anything You can focus your lasers all of this stuff is taking down a Malaysian jet flying over in the Ukraine And they're still on CNN. They're still showing me just a smokestack. This is the whole week's news Yeah, but we go on for we should have a dead pool on some of these stories

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Media Coverage of MH17 and Carol Costello's Reporting

The hosts critique the early visual reporting of the MH17 crash site on CNN, noting the repetitive use of smoke and debris footage. They mock the "entertainment" style of Carol Costello's broadcast and the immediate appearance of CIA analysts like Bob Baer.

mh17· cnn· carol costello· bob baer· debris

39:58 Like that other one, which went on for almost a month. Well, here's the thing. I think we should bet on this. The Malaysian Airlines people, they're not really the most reliable as it comes to records and telling the truth, etc. So of course, this has gone down over the... It looks more like it was blown up in the air. But they haven't... we're seeing the same two guys standing on what looks like a piece of fuselage, I see a little piece of debris, and I see smoke in the distance. They can't get anybody out there? Can't they get a crew? Call Viz News! Come on! Chop her in already! Give us a live shot!

40:42 Yeah, really they should have choppers going around. We know Anderson Poopers on it, and he has his black his black jacket on he's got his uh You know it's it's actually looks like totally like a CIA guy Oh, and there's a then speaking of speaking of which then now he has Bob bear on the CIA guy I'm telling you this but all of this it's just and if you look at it as entertainment Which is why I watch Carol CNN facebook.com slash Carol CNN She's a publicist now. That's how she talks. It says hello everybody. I'm Carol whatever her name I don't know her last name, but she says I'm Carol of Facebook that contrast Carol CNN at Carol CNN What why? Why would you know you don't need to identify people any other way? You're not John C. Dvorak You're at the real Dvorak your channel Dvorak calm and channel of work calm. I

41:35 Yeah, at the real Dvorak is good. So did I satisfactorily answer your question about the moon landing and the difference between the moon landing and moon bases? You know, okay. I'm not interested. Carol Costello. There you go. And there she is. Or it could be... well, wait a minute. There's Carol Jordan. Oh no, it's Carol Jordan. Carol Costello is Carol CNN on Twitter. Yeah, exactly. In fact, uh... Oh, and she's a Detroit fan, apparently. I'm a little sad about, well of course, if people pair... She looks a little like Mickey with a bigger nose. Oh, this, okay, alright, alright. Now, you know what, you can insult me all you want. That has to stop. My wife looks nothing like that person. Okay. You need to be reintroduced. I'm looking at her picture here on the Twitter feed. She's got great, great, great tweets. Good morning, happy Friday Eve.

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Climate Change Linked to Increased Flight Turbulence

Mainstream media outlets including CBS and CNN report on a study suggesting that climate change is causing more frequent and severe flight turbulence. The hosts dismiss these claims as predictive "bull crap" based on computer models rather than actual measurements, noting that pilots have not reported a significant increase in severe incidents.

climate change· turbulence· cnn· cbs· clear air turbulence

42:33 Beaten by Israel police back in America this morning. You sat DC marijuana decriminalization law takes effect. That's an interesting story in and of itself. WAPO, the curious case of the massive crater that appeared at the end of the earth. We talked about that long before she did. They have video now of this. And you know why that crater has developed, don't you? Okay, here we go. Yeah, climate change. Go ahead, I have all the links in the show notes. Yes, this is because of the climate change stuff right now because of course the president was all over this and he's got his phone and his... Climate change. Sync calls, climate change. You think that's bad? Now, I had an eye... I first pulled a clip from CBS. Let me see how long that clip is.

43:30 Yeah, this is 29 seconds and then I'm going to play the longer clip which came over the wire this morning before this Malaysian air kerfuffle. So this is CBS yesterday. Twenty people were hurt overnight too seriously when a South African Airways jetliner hit severe turbulence on its way to Hong Kong. One passenger's head put a hole in the overhead bin on the Airbus A340. The turbulence happened without warning. Many passengers were sleeping. Turbulence is caused when two air masses move against each other. One British study predicts that this kind of turbulence will increase significantly in the future because of climate change. Yeah! Alright, alright. No, no. I got a million clips, but you get clippity-to-day for that. No, I'm not going to accept it because you need to listen to the CNN clip about this this morning. Now.

44:23 But first of all, when someone's head goes through the overhead of the top part... That is not possible. I showed a picture of it, and his head, you know, where the air mass dropped down, his head went through that. Oh, okay. Well, I can see something like that. And the only way that can happen is if you're not wearing your seatbelt. It does not happen in any other manner, which they failed to mention. The report, and I've shortened this up, the report that you're about to hear now takes this climate change thing to such an extreme. I should have clip of the year for this. If you noticed your last flight was unusually bumpy, get used to it. Oh, Carol CNN. Climate change is making the air more turbulent. Case in point, South African Airlines flight, rough air sent passengers flying across the cabin and hit the ceiling.

45:15 People were seriously injured on that flight from where your seat belt morons with the you wear the seat belt Even if it says you can unfasten your seat belt idiots Johannesburg South Africa see it as George Howe has more for you. So this guy is actually on a plane Listen to this Been on a flight like this lately A recent study may have you reaching for the seatbelts. You should be wearing your seatbelt. Suggesting we could see more turbulence in the years to come as a result of climate change. And after the ups and downs I experienced on this flight, I decided to look into it. Okay, so we're flying from Austin to Chicago and it's one of the bumpiest flights I've been on. Oh, it's one of the bumpiest flights I've ever been on. Ever. Ever! What do you think?

46:07 My stomach actually physically hurts from So he's interviewing a woman who's sitting in the seat next to him and she's like, oh my stomach actually physically hurts from all the bumpiness of this climate change. We'll never be able to say that one particular person's flight experience which was bumpy has been caused by climate change. Of course we can't. What we can say is that as the climate changes, the odds of encountering turbulence on your flight are increasing. So they've now taken, this is the guy from the study. Who's saying well, you know we can't actually say it's because of climate change, but as climate change increases the odd hold on a second the odds? Hold on a second someone's on 33 Charlie

46:54 33 Charlie. As climate change increases, the odds of your flight being more turbulent have increased significantly. So this is, there's no news here. There's no study that says climate change is going to make your flights more turbulent. That is not in the study. Yet CBS and CNN, unfortunately now we have this Malaysian thing so that'll end but they might pick it up later. They've just said fuck it Let's run with turbulent. We're gonna die from climate change. You're gonna hit your head. You could be puking everywhere You're gonna fly in through the cabin Dr. Paul Williams says climate change is not only heating up the bottom part of the atmosphere, but that computer models show increased carbon dioxide models are also changing the temperatures and wind speeds in the jet stream. Note it's computer models, not actual measurements. This is just predictive bull crap.

47:49 His research focuses in on transatlantic flights, specifically addressing what's called clear air turbulence, occurring high above the clouds. You remember the clear air turbulence? Remember this was going on years ago? You've heard about this when I was a kid. Yeah, exactly. But now, John, now... That's the dangerous kind. That's the one that Nodka Stewardess is down. They'll kill ya. And passengers are starting to feel the difference. Oh, yes! Those jet stream windshears are becoming stronger. Jet stream windshears. Okay, as an aviator, I'm sorry. That is the biggest bunch of bullcrap. Windshear is not the same... Jet stream windshear.

48:30 This is just throwing in another fearful word, do you remember, John? Windshear. Oh yes, windshear. Made the plane crash. Oh, we had to do a go around. Windshear! Do you remember that? Those stories? Windshear? Yeah. That's when you're landing, you can get a very strong crosswind. Yeah, Denver. Because of climate change. And that, I believe, is causing the atmosphere to become more turbulent. He believes that. And that is causing airplane flights to become bumpier as a consequence. Ah, thank you very much. You should be shut a darn you twat. It's something we seem to hear about more and more, like this recent flight from Johannesburg to Hong Kong.

49:08 At least 20 passengers injured, too seriously. Pilots say they're experiencing more turbulence over the skies in the US in recent years. The incidents are... Now they pull some guy out who has no lower third, John. He's sitting in front of a row of captain's hats. But there's no lower third, he's not identified as an airman, as a pilot. Just some guy with a bunch of hats. And pilots, every, you know what John, I speak to pilots all the time and they say, my God, man. The turbulence is crazy when this climate change is just killing us. Turbulence encounters is increased. It may be counterintuitive, but statistically the incidence of injuries as a result of that is decreasing. Hough credits technology for the decrease in injuries with turbulence below the jet stream. Increase in technology, which has... What technology? Well, listen up. Better radar systems. Bullshit! You cannot detect turbulence with radar systems.

50:08 That's why pilots all the time are talking to each other at altitude and saying, what's your ride? What do you got at flight level four three or three four? You know, I'd go up a thousand or down a thousand. There is no technology to detect turbulence warning. That is the technology itself. Well, talking. Yeah, but he said radar, better radar, which is a lie. Holy crap. Incidence of injuries as a result of that is decreasing. Hoff credits technology for the decrease in injuries with turbulence below the jet stream. Better radar systems warning pilots of rough air at lower altitudes. But higher up along the jet stream, Williams says clear air turbulence can't be detected.

50:50 He predicts the frequency of reported clear air turbulence to double by mid-century and an increase in intensity of the shaking by 10 to 40 percent. So this guy with a row of hats behind him... Uh, is predicting by the mid-century, I'm saying, let's say 2030 just to make it a good one for the boomers. It'll be worse and 10 to 40% heavier, more violent shaking. I already calculate that. He's predicting. He's from the future. And here's that woman again. It's horrible. Oh, oh, it's just horrible.

51:32 like it on the air face ever so that's why i was on you know it was the sort of thing where you almost want to think twice about even asking for a glass of water without having it spilled all over you it was a very almost so i guess he did ask or what i mean was it not that bad he'd have a bob uncomfortable flight carol but here's the thing i spoke with another atmospheric researcher of all who will go on named about you know this link this possible link to class only in terms of any kind of study very interesting very insightful but did point out that of course it will take more data, it will take more time and broader studies to determine conclusively what's happening. But still he said this is an important study, he found it important and it could be rough news for all of us. You're not kidding, I hate turbulence. George Hal, many thanks.

52:20 province dot com out of canada yeah daniel slender of the canadian federal pilots association said he hasn't heard of increased reports from its members now smith who's been flying since nineteen ninety has twelve thousand pilot hours said there's no formal study showing turbulences of not much standardized protocol by which you can attend anyone can identify reported in commercial pilots salt out was flown for twenty years and has twelve thousand hours is extreme turbulence which can damage planes is so rare that neither has experienced it and both said they've only flown through severe turbulence twice exactly anyway goes on and on the side of the so this is going on this is the same outfit that talks about the moon landings being real i'm just saying that's all anyway i think you're something's wrong with you and this carol woman

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator and Image Verification

The hosts discuss the No Agenda Art Generator and the use of Google Image Search to verify the authenticity of submitted artwork and NGO promotional materials. They highlight how image searches can reveal when charities reuse old photos to solicit new donations.

no agenda art· google image search· propaganda· hillary clinton· ngo

53:13 You've got to stop watching CNN. No, this is... I think you should go to MSNBC. I watched MSNBC last night and it's atrocious. There was a whole hour Of course, it was all the border stuff. Here's what we're not going to see anymore. By the way, thank you Malaysia. Good work again. Get us off the borders. Yeah, off the border thing. We're not going to be talking about... Talking about potential World War III. That's much more... No, we're not gonna... Well, yeah, this of course is what's going to start and we're still seeing smoke in the distance. Anyway, if you want to know what's really going on just check in with your gardens of reality. Your gardens of reality. Your gardens of reality. The gardens of reality. And your guardians of serenity. We're here at your every beck and call. Whatever you do, don't watch. Block the news. Don't watch the news. We'll dissect it for you.

54:07 Yeah, I would say that's probably the way to do it. It's the only way if you want to stay healthy. It's the only way. You will get ill from this. And of course we're not immune to it, but we have built up some, it's kind of like, um, well together we, it helps. Oh, if we didn't have each other, we'd be dead. It's like kryptonite. Yeah. I mean, you know, so you, because there's no, there has to be, cause I've done it. I've brought some up and then you blast it. That's bull crap. Yeah, I guess you're right. It is bullcrap. What am I thinking? And for that reason I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and in the morning to our human resources in the chatroom no agenda stream calm where we are now bringing you an ever-increased rotation of shows and

55:00 Of course the no agenda show and DH unplugged and I've been throwing some other fun things in there as we are starting to reboot the no agenda stream Good to see all the human resources in the chat room of course and in the morning to our artists We chose major kills for episode 6 3 4 and do you remember what it was the I? Get like you said I can't remember what you said three weeks ago. Just see there you go Israeli moon bases and Okay, let me take a look. Let's see. It was, oh yeah, it was an Act React No Agenda based on the Act React Impact, which is the slogan for the European Parliament, the Hegelianic dialectic, as we deciphered.

55:49 And for this episode, who knows? It'll be up to the artists. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can submit, where you can see all of the submissions. And even if it doesn't get used for the artwork, there's still a permanent record of it. And of course, it's often used in newsletter. Except some guy named Kevlar, who probably doesn't even listen to the show anymore, came along and removed all his previous art. Really? That's kind of lame. Yeah, I don't know why you can do that. I guess you can I guess you can go I didn't know you could either but I guess you can you or at least he knows how to that should be illegal damn it no We should we should have terms of service like Facebook that says well find people that we don't want to use stolen art unless this unless you've done a Lot unless you've turned into a parody or you've done something with it. That's a little more

56:36 Like the one with Hillary, that cartoon character. She's going in with what looks like a propaganda poster from North Korea. That was very... That was a good one. People liked that a lot. We saw it when it came up. You'd have to look up who did it. But when it came up, it just looks way too good to be submitted so quickly. And so the artist obviously had done this, been working on this piece, but it's taken from a Korean or either Korean or Chinese propaganda post. I think it was a, I think it was Chinese. And so we did a bunch of image searches. This is how we find if you're using public domain, you know, a public domain or stolen art. We do image searches. You search the image, literally you can post the image into the Google search engine and it will look for copies of it. And there was the original without Hillary's head.

57:27 And it was just dynamite, what he did. We encourage that. That Google search is really good. I've been involved in the past in some charities. And I was looking at charities, 1099s, it's the same thing. It's all non-profits, it's NGOs, it's all bull. Most of it, 98% is bull. 97% actually. Everything's 97%. And so they sent out this newsletter, oh here we are with the poor black children in whatever African country and we've given them books and they have a school.

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Job Karma

The hosts acknowledge significant donations from producers, including a former Apple employee who circumnavigated the Bermuda Triangle. They emphasize that the titles of Executive Producer and Associate Executive Producer are legitimate credits that can be used on professional resumes and LinkedIn profiles.

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58:04 And here's our recent trip, and then I do a Google image search. It was two years old, that picture. They'd used it before. Yeah, it's handy, this Google image search thing. Yeah, very handy. All right, let's thank a few people who are executive producers and associated executive producers for show 635. Starting with Sir Don Tommaso di Toronto in Kettleby, Ontario. $411.33 is my donation to the best podcast in the universe. It's where I get the best information. 411. Nice. And just adding the 3.3 cents to make it legit. Don Tommaso. He was recently knighted. He just became a knight.

58:44 Yeah, and he's hanging in there. Good. Thank you, sir. We seriously appreciate that He's a high man for today's totem pole I like that number two by the way for four eleven thirty four one one three three is a great great donation Logan rents three thirty three thirty three from the woodlands, Texas Adam John listening from roughly the beginning of from roughly the beginning longtime boner first-time donor What the show has done for me is evolved my thinking. I don't agree with every thesis the two of you present. But as we always say, we don't even agree. People stop saying that. Yeah, because we don't even agree with each other. Yes, if you listen to the beginning of today's show, there's much evidence of that. Where I'm in the right and John is a disbeliever. So you have it. Anyway, that's the point. So yeah, okay, no, and in fact, I don't think we could find, of course, if you did, then you'd be contradicting yourself because we sometimes have dissimilar opinions.

59:37 But it would seem that this is not the thing you should never be in agreement with everything every anybody says except your wife She's always right. Yes always What the show has helped me do is to develop an appropriate view of the tomfoolery of the news and the world in general I worked at Apple for five years before taking off on an 18-month, 5,284-mile circumnavigation of the Bermuda Triangle on a 37-foot sailboat, Stella Blue, with my wife. Wow. See our journey at svsstellablue.com. It's time for me to join the workforce again as a software developer and I need some job karma. What better motivation to become a first-time donor? Love the show. Thanks, guys. Logan. Thank you very much. I got to go take a look at that. 37 foot. That's not all that big, is it? That's not a huge boat. It's probably just about the limit of a single hander. I think you could probably,

1:00:35 Do it by yourself if you want to. It's not big, but it's not small. That's it. You know, can you imagine you and I doing a trip like that together? No, no, no. One of us should go overboard. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Yeah, that's not it. It doesn't sound like a good plan. No I'm always amazed when somebody can travel it with their wife It's a 37 foot. Yeah. Anyway, that's yeah might be too big for single-handed Anyway, sir Hank and Q Gardens, New York 333 33 Credit sir Hank. Thank you for your courage. Can I get a bingo? Boom shakalaka karma? Yeah, absolutely. Bingo. Boom shakalaka

1:01:19 You've got karma most requested jingle by the way. Yeah. Yeah, you nailed it You got one you nailed that one Richard bangs in North Bethesda, Maryland 300. Hello. Hello. Hello, Bethesda Say no more North Bethesda. I've had some good karma house new job at your favorite Adobe. Yeah, in Bethesda. Oh, selling Adobe Connect. What is that? What is Adobe Connect? What is that? What is Adobe Connect? Is it like Skype?

1:02:02 Anyhow, the show has been great of late. John, I'm sorry. It's a web conferencing platform with complete solutions for web meetings and video conferencing or for mobile e-learning and webinars. Oh, for webinars. This is for us. We should just do a webinar and just charge people and just sit around do the show and just call it a webinar. Okay, what other questions do you have? Wait, do you and Adam ever wear hats? Yeah. Anyhoo, the show has been great of late. Helps me stay sane, especially because I can see the path forward to World War III. Thank you. Yeah, that's what the show's for. I'm also donating because I hit my accountant Mark Raley in the mouth, seeing as how I just got a bonus and haven't donated since hitting him in the mouth. I figured it was time so I don't get the dreaded douchebag monitor moniker. Do we have to give it to his accountant then?

1:03:01 I don't know, maybe Mark gives money. He has to tell us that we can't just... Right, this is an initiative that we don't initiate. I'm also requesting new human resource, Carm. We give douchebags out to politicians. Let me show you how this works. Joe Lieberman. It worked once again. John McCain. Oh, really? Oh, shoot. Douchebag. Hope all is well with you and the family. Hopefully someday I'll be able to get my wife to listen to the show as well, and keep doing what you're doing. Easy does it, you know, because you've got a new human resource and you want to keep the peace in the family. You've got karma. Congratulations with a new human resource. Timothy Singleton in Henderson, Nevada.

1:03:51 205 nice little place this completes my knighthood he said by the way 205 drop the zero The seven that's right five and we'll be knighting him later. It's just a bongo tick you're on what is this? What is it with the bongo? It's just different okay? And that will conclude it. That's all we got here for today's show 635 executive associate executive producers want to remind people to go to the org org slash na and you can Donate there or you can go to channel of org comm slash na or the no agenda show on the note agenda nation websites both have donate buttons you can click on and takes you to some

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1:05:14 So we don't have any of that. However, unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for your producership, which seems to help people getting gigs, jobs, etc. And put it on your LinkedIn profile or on your CV, anywhere where credits are accepted. So we will vouch for you. And of course, we'll be doing another show for you on Sunday. Please support that program as well. And regardless of what you were able to contribute, you can always go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Now, a number of weeks ago, John, we had a program where about 20 minutes was lost.

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

WHO and FDA Promote Truvada for HIV Prevention

The World Health Organization and the FDA are criticized for promoting Truvada (PrEP) as a primary tool for HIV prevention. The hosts argue that the drug, manufactured exclusively by Gilead Sciences, is being marketed as a "license to bear back" while ignoring the necessity of safe sex practices and the high cost of the medication.

truvada· prep· gilead sciences· who· fda

1:06:10 Completely lost It was just basically you and I Chatting to each other no stream while back and no and no recording well, maybe months ago. I don't want in six weeks Go on anyway, and do you recall since you're we're playing memory games today? What we were talking about during that 20 minutes that got lost Some about your underwear oh No, you were but don't you you were bitching about your tight underwear And you said Mickey insists on you wear this really tight underwear, and it was like getting on your nerves What we were actually talking about at the time was the FDA who have not only approved PrEP Truvada and of course you're saying what is that? This is the AIDS drug

1:07:00 that is, the way it's being sold into people and now the World Health Organization has jumped on this bandwagon, which is very, very, it's very bad what is happening. And I'd been turned on to this, of course, thanks to Brian, our gay crusader. So this was six weeks ago where, and we actually, we talked about this, must've been two years ago. And we predicted at one point in time, it's these retro virals, It's just going to be, first it's going to be, okay, you're gay, take these because it'll cure your AIDS. It'll stop you from getting AIDS. Now of course that's not true. It only works in I think two of every 10 people that it actually can thwart the contraction of the HIV virus, the human HIV before it turns into AIDS.

1:07:49 And you need to be using condoms and practice safe sex practices. Now I see what triggered your highlighting Bethesda. Go on. That's where the AIDS vaccine was developed. Oh really? Oh I didn't know that. That was just a coincidence. And I think at the time I predicted you'd wait. It'll be just like your vitamin C in the morning. Here kids, take your Truvada so you don't get AIDS. Yeah, I think this is what we were talking about. Okay, so here's Brian the Gay Crusader and we have a new development here and a bunch of links in the show notes. Adam, so now the World Health Organization has jumped on board the bandwagon for the proven ineffective drug Truvada PrEP made exclusively by Gilead

1:08:38 That is very important to point out. They have the patent. It's exclusive to this one pharmaceutical company. Funny that even though the FDA and their approval of PrEP made it clear the drug is only effective when used in conjunction with condoms, condoms are pretty much not mentioned by the World Horse Organization. And if you read any article about PrEP in the gay magazines, the message is clear. Take PrEP and bear back without worry! He says it's truly disheartening that the ignorant masses who take PrEP will become likely become infected with HIV because they view it as a license to bear back carelessly. And of course I don't need to explain what that means. Even more troubling is how viciously those who dare to share the facts about PrEP are attacked. Now this is

1:09:26 a real problem, particularly for someone who is as concerned about the LGBTQIAP community as I am, as a heteroflexible. Is it possible that, so I'm guessing that 97% of people agree on this stuff being effective, and there's a few people that are complaining about it and they get attacked? Yes. And you know Brian the Gay Crusader who was the one who developed the entire white paper on the bogative claims that Russia hates gays. He knows, he's been researching this for many, many years and he turned me on to it initially. And of course that was a lost 20 minutes. But now the World Health Organization is just coming out and just saying, oh, you know, this is it. Here's your fix. Here's your pill. And they, almost in small print. Is it still run by that same woman, that dingbat from China or Hong Kong? I don't know. You should check into that. Yeah. Why don't you look that up?

1:10:28 So here's BBC News, AIDS epidemic under control by 2030. It's possible! Bull crap. Yeah, but this is very bad. New York State, actually this is, I can give you the exact date when we talked about it. This was July 2nd, so it wasn't even that long ago. July 2nd is when Cuomo started talking about this. and start promoting this as a part of the New York State strategy in controlling the AIDS epidemic. But really what this is, is a very dangerous financial play by Gilead, the only maker of this drug. And for some reason everyone's taken a stupid pill

1:11:21 And it's just like, oh, okay, whatever. Yeah, no, this is great. This is it. We're all done. It's all good. We're all over. Don't worry about it. Just take your daily meds and hump away as much as you want. And what came out two days ago, President Obama's first comprehensive HIV-AIDS strategy document, we have a fact sheet. And I have to say the White House is also you know, walking on thin ice here. So they're talking about the implementation of the National HIV-AIDS Strategy, which includes reducing new HIV infections. Of course, they've done a great job with this over the past four years. HIV testing, screening all persons between age 15 and 65 will now become a grade A recommendation. So here's how it's going to go. You will be forced to be tested.

1:12:14 And you will be forced to eventually, it'll just be, and of course they want to get it right into the Affordable Care Act coverage. And here it is making coverage affordable. Affordable Care Act has expanded access to affordable health insurance coverage for millions of Americans, including thousands living with HIV. And thanks to the Affordable Care Act, people can no longer be denied coverage based on pre-existing conditions. But the whole point here, obviously, is to get the Truvada, that's the brand name, of the PREP, and that's capital P, capital R, lowercase e, and that stands for pre-exposure prophylaxis.

1:12:56 Well, how about this for a better idea? They're trying, because of the funding fading, they're trying to reignite the AIDS epidemic. Get the numbers back up and this would do it. It's going to, yeah. And the gay crusader is... Can you imagine being Brian? And he already went through this white paper bullcrap. Can you imagine you're a gay guy and it's like, hey man, Putin doesn't really hate gays. What? Fag? They said, hey guys, you know, you can't really prevent yourself from getting AIDS and HIV by taking this this prep pill. You know, you have to still practice safe sex. What? No. Yeah, you get shouted down. So Dr. Margaret Chan has been re-elected. Oh, there you go. And her new term begins on January 1st, 2012, which is a couple years ago and continues into the 30th of June 2017. Margaret Chan.

1:13:55 Who runs the WHO is a complete idiot. The World Horse Organization, I've now dubbed it for some reason. So, but anyway, be on the lookout for this promotion of Truvada, be on the lookout for very small little asterisks and fine print saying, Truvada should always be used in conjunction with safe sex practices. But it is truly being marketed as the wonder drug and we're back to the 70s. Do whatever you want, horse around, bear back as much as you want, just take the pill and you're good to go. And of course these pills are not cheap. No, no. And who's going to end up paying the taxpayer? It eventually, yeah. It's going to go right through the system. Let's see, Truvada prices. Oh, let's see. This is from goodrx.com.

1:14:47 Okay, oh, let's see, Walmart. Now, 30 tablets, John, without looking, without looking, what do you think 30 tablets of Truvada will cost? 30 tablets should be... Now remember, the way it's being marketed, if you can afford this, you don't need to put a garbage bag on your willy ever again. Okay, I'm making a guess here, hang on. I'm guessing that they can move quite a few pills if it was $150 for 30 tablets. Okay. You want to try? Let me guess again. Was I low? Yeah. 300 bucks. And we'll give you one more chance. This is 30 pills, 30 tablets of Truvada at Walmart.

1:15:30 Walmart, which would be probably as cheap as you can get it. Well, you want to do Sam's Club? I can give you Sam's Club, Kroger. Fine. Let's see if they have Target. You want to do Target? No, no, I'm sticking with the Walmart. With Walmart? Okay. Let's go to, uh, because you know, the- Last chance, last chance to dance. Okay. Uh, $600. Ah. $1,360.37. Well, at least I didn't go over. And I guess they received a patent extension. Does it really cost that much to manufacture the A-Pill? No, but you know... 30 bucks A-Pill? No, but they have to, you know, they have to... 35. No.

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Flesh-Eating Bacteria and Lack of New Antibiotics

Reports of flesh-eating bacteria and brain-eating amoebas in the U.S. highlight a growing public health crisis. The hosts blame pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer for halting antibiotic research in favor of more profitable drugs, leading to a "post-antibiotic era" where common infections become untreatable.

vibrio vulnificus· amoeba· antibiotics· pfizer· cdc

1:16:15 Now they have to do stuff like, you know... Yeah, now let's play, you know, they have to do something because anybody... These drug companies are horrible. I mean, even Pfizer. There was a nice 60 Minutes report on how they dropped their research into antibiotics. I just want to say one point of thing. And they were one of the world's leaders in antibiotics and it just killed the whole thing. And now we have stories like this one here which I have a clip of, which just brings it to the fore that we don't have antibiotics for anything. Brain-eating amoeba. That's my favorite. New fear about deadly disease lurking in the water. In just the past month, there have been multiple cases of flesh eating bacteria and brain eating amoeba in the United States. Victims are infected by swimming or fishing in contaminated water. Miguel Marquez is out front with the story and I have to warn you before we show you some of these images are disturbing.

1:17:07 Nick DuVernay loved the water, diving, fishing, even spearfishing. Two Sundays ago he spent the day in the water off Ocean Springs, Mississippi. Sunday night he started feeling bad and by Wednesday he was just in a really bad situation. His organs failing, his body filling with fluid. The next day he was dead. They took four and a half liters of fluid off of him. and they did not realize how bad the leg was until he was already in a room in the ICU and his leg actually just started to burst open on the back. Sarah says the speed of his death from aches and pains to organ failure, shocking. Did you ever think it could happen to you? No, absolutely not. This is something that you see on the news. It doesn't happen to you. It doesn't happen to your family.

1:17:59 And it happened to us. It happens more often than you think and attacks the body in many ways. Rene Ollier lost his arm to bacteria and he never even got in the water. Only handled shrimp for bait on a fishing trip. Jocko Angle's left leg still twice its normal size a year after wading into water in Biloxi, Mississippi. It was the most painful thing. And these people saved my leg. His heart goes out to the medical staff at Memorial Hospital in Gulfport. And it's not just Mississippi. It can happen to anyone, anywhere. A few recent cases, Louisiana and Georgia, Michigan, Idaho, Oregon. In Kansas, a brain-destroying amoeba took the life of nine-year-old Hallie Eust.

1:18:49 last week. The amoeba then finds itself way back in our noses and then can work its way into our central nervous system. Jacksonville University recently tested six bodies of water near its Florida campus for the flesh-eating bacteria. Half the sites tested positive for the deadly bacteria Vibrio vilnificus, the same bacteria that killed Nick DiVerne last week. If you're going to be in the water make sure you don't have any Cuts and he soars and if you notice something wrong don't ignore it I mean go in right away because My brother was was dead in four days a heartfelt warning from a woman who laid her brother to rest Just yesterday is it is it called vitriol magnificus? Virial vernacular I think is verniculus. Oh, oh, that's too bad because that's a great stage name. I

1:19:45 So we have that and they didn't even bring up the staff of infections that they can't cure. But except for the amoeba, I mean, antibiotics should stop any of these things, but we haven't had a new antibiotic for 20 years because they've stopped all research so they can make boner pills and $35 pill AIDS medications that don't work. And all this other crap. And these people should be taken to task. And so... Now this is where you guys sound like a socialist, but if we had single-payer health coverage in this country instead of insurance coverage where there's a scam involved, and got the insurance companies completely out of this game and made it all government like the VA, even though the VA sucks... And you know, by the way, the VA hands out boner pills too. Yeah, I know, it's ridiculous. Isn't that crazy? At least they could say, you can't charge this amount of money for this stupid pill.

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Bacterial Resistance and the History of Penicillin

A discussion on the history of antibiotics traces the discovery of penicillin by Alexander Fleming in 1928. The hosts explain how bacterial resistance has rendered many older treatments ineffective, leading to the rise of superbugs like MRSA.

penicillin· alexander fleming· amoxicillin· mrsa· staph

1:20:42 So explain to me, Dr. Dvorak, the antibiotics, you'd think that, okay, you have penicillin and it's done, do we need further development? Is that because our bodies have become used to it or the vitreol magnificus has become that much more magnificent? What exactly is going on here and why? Panacillin was a discovery in the 40s that was an accident. And then most of the silin, ampicillin, thisilin, and thatsilin, they're all derivatives of

1:21:18 Penicillin that because penicillin became ineffective rather quickly the bacteria's you know because people never take all their drugs or they screw up somehow or or their or doctors are giving everyone a penicillin shot for no good reason and Bacteria were getting used to it. And so they once they get used to the new one and then there was also the There's what's that other stuff that people take it there's anyway, there's a couple other non amoxicillin That's a psyllium. I'm talking about... What's that one that people... Anyway, there's a couple other... Well, give me a hint. I want to try and help you. You're asking... You're not asking the whole question. I'm not asking. What help do I need? Well, you're saying what's that other thing that people... And then you trade it off. Oh, yeah. There's another... There's a couple of other types of antibiotics besides the psylliums.

1:22:02 And but whatever the case is all development on all these drugs has essentially stopped dead in his tracks and then once Pfizer shut down its research, which is the number one was the dominating antibiotic developer. Z-Pak is the chat room saying Z-Pak? Lexan? No, no, no. It's a long, it's a generic name for some. I can't think of what it is, but you've heard about it. Conazole? It doesn't make any difference what it is. The point is that there's nothing new. And all these other things are becoming resistant. That's why you have the MRSA, which is a resistant strain of Staph. And you get it, nothing could kill it. And so this is just a disaster waiting to happen. We are going into the post-antibiotic era, according to most people. And that means that we're going to be going back to taking silver and arsenic. Oxidated silver. We can sell that on the show.

1:22:59 We could. Yeah, yeah. Does that help? Does that work? It's in the seeds. And uh... In every case, this is a disaster because the drug companies don't give a crap about long-term. They'd rather sell. They're out to make money. Uh, vital health drops. There's no encouragement to do anything else. Encouragement in this case would be the government coming in and starting to sue these guys. Man, this is why the troops... Why do they want a free ride for? They're not doing anybody any good except for the guys that can't get a hard-on. Gotta try some of that. I have you ever tried viagra. I would love to try that don't need it No, I don't need it either, but I'd like to see what it's like Well a lot of guys have used it. They say that what the great thing about it according to these guys Yeah, is that you can do it twice in a row real easy now, so if you want to do that you know Who wants that? I?

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

CDC Lab Accidents and Bird Flu Contamination

The CDC has reportedly fired several scientists following a series of high-profile lab accidents involving bird flu and anthrax. The hosts mock the agency's incompetence while briefly confusing the discoveries of Madame Curie with medical antibiotics.

cdc· bird flu· anthrax· madame curie· lab safety

1:23:54 Eye rolls everywhere here in Austin. Who wants that? Who wants to deal with that crap? Oh my goodness. Oh man. Well yeah, and this is why you see in places like Haiti, you know, people are dying of the simplest things. And in Sudan, you know, it's like you get the runs and you die from it. Yeah, they did by the way, I guess we didn't really touch on this, but the CDC fired 11 people, 11 scientists, after the new disclosed incident, CDC scientists contaminated a weak bird flu strain with a vicious strain that promptly killed a group of lab chickens.

1:24:39 And this was right after the dozen or so employees were potentially exposed to anthrax a couple weeks back. Oh, that's from that lab. Right. So this lab is so crappy that, you know, finally they're starting to fire some people. It's like, hey, stop doing this stuff. But even that I think is just more fear-mongering because really you're more likely to die from using your neti pot or from you know, having the United Nations blue helmets coming to help you. This way you get cholera, you die. Yeah, the United Nations, bringer of death. And then the West African Ebola outbreak is spreading out of control says the World Health Organization, the World Horse Organization.

1:25:21 Death toll has risen to more than 600 since February. Very difficult for us to get into communities where there's hostility to outsiders. Oh, really? I saw Sanjay Gupta walking around doing the whole thing. How hard can it be? Sierra Leone? Liberia? Can I correct something on the show so I don't get a note? Yeah. I didn't realize this, but penicillin was actually discovered by Fleming in 1928. Now you're taking John Stek's research as a... No, I'm looking at this, this is on the Wikipedia.

1:25:57 That's where you got Wikipedia page. Oh hold on a second well of course and that means it's totally true I'm not saying this whether it's true or not, but it's it's positive I mean, why would they put that in there? I thought Madame Curie invented it that was that's my whole family's claim to fame What antibiotics were invented by? Penicillin she invented a radiation that's your family's And that's why I'm not a doctor Penicillin. I went here just to look to see what the one I was trying to, because it's one I'm trying to think that used to give it to kids for acne. Hmm. Oh, that's, I know that's provigil? No, that's something else. It's to keep kids up. What is that? No, I know what it is. That's really bad stuff for acne. That could make your kid loopy.

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

MH17 Investigation and Ukrainian Separatist Claims

Conflicting reports emerge regarding the downing of MH17, with Ukrainian authorities and separatists in Luhansk and Donetsk trading blame. The hosts suggest the event could be a false flag intended to escalate tensions between NATO and Russia.

mh17· ukraine· luhansk· donetsk· tetracycline

1:26:49 Well, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about an older one. Anyway, whatever. Now there's too many of these. They do have some underdevelopment, but this is... It's bad. It's bad. I agree. It's bad. It's a bad scene. Now, I will also point out that this Malaysian Air Flight 17 is another triple seven. Not so good. This is the second 777, otherwise perfect record aircraft, both Malaysia. Is Malaysia just the go-to guy when we just want to start some crap or get some news or ratings on CNN? Do we just call them up? Let's stick with your original theory. It's all about the damn straits down there.

1:27:29 Well, but you know, okay, so this now now Ukraine is saying we didn't shoot it must have been those Russians. Okay fine Russians didn't shoot it if anybody didn't shoot it it would be the Russians because they got probably better Gear, but who are you gonna believe Vladimir Putin or Carol CNN? Come on? Well, you know who you're gonna believe she looks cute Tetracycline. Yeah, uh, I got you that recycling I got which is also came from dirt. Oh Really? Yeah, apparently somebody found some soil someplace that had antibacterial properties and then they developed tetracycline from what was in the dirt. Really? Cool. So now they have that guy who got caught in Washington Square Park with a dildo in his pocket, the aviation guy on CNN. Okay. Remember, and he had heroin.

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

FCC Proposes Presidential "Giant Voice" Emergency System

The FCC is proposing rule changes to the Emergency Alert System (EAS) that would allow the President to broadcast live to all mobile phones and media outlets simultaneously. These "presidential alerts" cannot be disabled on modern smartphones and include capabilities for geo-targeted messaging.

fcc· eas· presidential alert· iphone· fema

1:28:21 Oh, the heroin guy, yeah. And the dildo. What was the dildo for? Who knows? Just in case. And it was tied up. I think it was tied up. Only he's wearing only his boots and an overcoat with a dildo in his pocket and some heroin. Or was it ecstasy? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's just funny to see him talking. Anyway, if anything does happen here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, good news! The Federal Communications Commission is proposing a rule change that would let President Obama speak to the country with the flip of a switch in the case of a national disaster or emergency. The public will have 30 days to comment on this new rule change once it is published in Tuesday's Federal Register. So this is the FCC 1439A1 rule change and this is for the giant voice system.

1:29:07 which consists of a number of different pieces. Doesn't this also include the internet? Can you flip on it all of a sudden out of your computers coming to the president? That is not in the document FCC 14-93 which is part of the EAS, the emergency alert system. But also includes the hold on a second. I got to get the right terminology it also includes the WEA Which is the wireless emergency alerts and what they're doing now because it wasn't it was never I didn't know this it wasn't necessarily required that all broadcasters put through all

1:29:51 emergency alert system alerts. It's a little different from what we know as the emergency broadcast system. This is the emergency alert system and it used to be daisy-chained and it's a very interesting document if you're kind of into the technology of it all. But now what they're doing is they're giving a set of codes very similar to the nuclear codes I guess. That if that is input that means it's a presidential giant voice system and everyone flips on and all phones, which is the funniest thing. Phones? Yeah, phones. All the phones. It will be a live code as they call it. And I'm just reading from this document. As explained below, we also declined to propose changes to or otherwise seek comment on the Commission's rules regarding the processing of header codes at the time of release of presidential alerts. I'll never get this to work. Well, it already works. I haven't heard the president on my phone. Oh no, he hasn't. No, but the WEA works.

1:30:50 Oh man, you can be in all kinds of places. We've had it happen here and apparently it's supposed to then work based upon geographic area, it works with the cell towers. And we receive alerts, well not me, Mickey has received a helper, at least silence it. You can't actually turn off some of them. Like the presidential alerts which are in your iPhone, you can't turn off. But you know it's like- Can't turn them off? No, no, it's no switch. No. It's presidential alerts that come out of your iPhone? Yes, sir. iPhone, Android, I guess every modern phone system. You cannot toggle those off, but the other ones, which is like Amber Alerts.

1:31:37 in Texas. Yeah, yeah, it's somewhere in Texas. The EAS provides the President and other government alert originators with the capability to send critical alerts and warnings to the public over broadcasts and other media communications facilities. Under the Commission's rules, EAS participants must be able to receive and retransmit EAS alerts initiated by the President. And these are proposed rule changes, however the FCC is kind of making it clear that they're not going to do anything to thwart the capability of the president to do this. Along with this, this is interesting, in addition the equipment and network upgrades, this is money by the way, will enable the use of a national location code.

1:32:21 taken in conjunction with the Commission's rules requiring that EAS equipment recognize all header codes. It will prevent EAS equipment from programmatically ignoring location header codes when used with the EAN event code, thus enabling FEMA to use other specific location codes for geo-targeted emergency alerts should the President wish to address a particular part of the country rather than the nation as a whole. So the President We'll be able to geolocate and target his messaging. I think that's pretty Gitmo right there. I'm reminded of the situation that happened, I think it was in San Mateo County, where the police had one of these systems and they were messaging

1:33:05 people with iPhones in the vicinity of San Mateo. And then it was all going well until they announced, they used the system to announce a pancake breakfast this Saturday. Wouldn't that be funny? I think we did that story actually. Probably. A few years back. Anyway, the national code to fire up everything will be six zeros. So the president doesn't have to think too much. I just made it three zeros because it's the you need six digits apparently to be able to target effectively

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Etymology of Fascism and the Palladian Right

A listener letter clarifies the origins of the word "fascism," tracing it back to the Roman "fasces"—a bundle of rods symbolizing strength through unity. The hosts debate whether the term was used in its modern political context prior to the 20th-century movement led by Mussolini.

fascism· mussolini· roman empire· nazi· zionist

1:33:43 If you want to do so it's just it's a geolocation thing I think you should just if you get six digits, and you like I think they should have a contest be the lucky winners It's a random number still not a five three four four and if you're hearing this message Congratulations, you've won a free trip trip to Washington for a small fee Just add shipping and handling very funny speaking of that It's like a road to spam if you ask me. I got a lot of email about the Palladian right discussion. Did you get any feedback on that? I got zip on this zip. Well they sent it to me as usual. Here's an anonymous, nice one on the Palladian right discussion. Since Dvorak has been doubting

1:34:33 has been his doubting self. Here are some clarifications on the origin of fascism. Now this is where you said, and I of course don't question you at all, that the word fascism or the concept, I guess, you said the word or the concept had not even been invented until before. There was two words in there. One was fascism and they also used the word Nazi and there was actually Zionist, somebody pointed out. I did get a letter about that, that that concept wasn't available to this guy. Well, I like this letter for a number of reasons. Fascism actually derives from the term fascis or fascio, which during the 19th century, the bundle of rods in Latin called fascis and in Italian fascio came to symbolize strength through unity. The point being that whilst each independent rod was fragile, as bundled they were strong. Nationalist fasci

1:35:27 FASCI later evolved into the 20th century FASCI movement which became known as fascism. FASCIS were used as early as the Roman Empire existed, so fascism by no means was known only post-World War I as Dvorak stated. Again, he's probably just your handler. Yes, well the word Nazi I think would...it's also being used there and you have to deal with that. But no, fascisti was the movement and it really didn't come...nobody talked about this until the 1900s. A bunch of theoretical...yeah, there's lots of words in the world and you can dream up some kind of a scheme, schema, to explain away his use of the word fascist with a T.

1:36:21 Yeah, well, exactly. Well, the thing is... The guy is bullcrap. What we need to see is a letter that was apparently displayed in the London Museum. If someone can show me that... It never was there, it was bullcrap. That's the part that is the bullcrap. If you can't show me the letter and have proof that it was displayed in the London Museum, that's the problem. And then mysteriously disappeared. Well, of course, because the New World Order doesn't want you to know what their evil plan is. They want to sell you seeds. Alright, onward. I have a thing that bugs me. Let me find it here. You know this IM Jada thing? No, what's that? I don't know either. So I'm watching, I turned on your buddy... Careful. The Frank Sinatra kid. Oh, Ronan. He's not my buddy. Oh, I thought he was. I thought you interviewed him when you were at MTV.

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Ronan Farrow and the "I Am Jada" Social Media Campaign

MSNBC's Ronan Farrow promotes the #IAmJada hashtag to support a victim of cyberbullying and sexual assault. The hosts criticize this form of "slacktivism," comparing it to previous viral campaigns that they claim fail to produce substantive real-world change.

ronan farrow· msnbc· jada· cyberbullying· hashtag activism

1:35:27 FASCI later evolved into the 20th century FASCI movement which became known as fascism. FASCIS were used as early as the Roman Empire existed, so fascism by no means was known only post-World War I as Dvorak stated. Again, he's probably just your handler. Yes, well the word Nazi I think would...it's also being used there and you have to deal with that. But no, fascisti was the movement and it really didn't come...nobody talked about this until the 1900s. A bunch of theoretical...yeah, there's lots of words in the world and you can dream up some kind of a scheme, schema, to explain away his use of the word fascist with a T.

1:36:21 Yeah, well, exactly. Well, the thing is... The guy is bullcrap. What we need to see is a letter that was apparently displayed in the London Museum. If someone can show me that... It never was there, it was bullcrap. That's the part that is the bullcrap. If you can't show me the letter and have proof that it was displayed in the London Museum, that's the problem. And then mysteriously disappeared. Well, of course, because the New World Order doesn't want you to know what their evil plan is. They want to sell you seeds. Alright, onward. I have a thing that bugs me. Let me find it here. You know this IM Jada thing? No, what's that? I don't know either. So I'm watching, I turned on your buddy... Careful. The Frank Sinatra kid. Oh, Ronan. He's not my buddy. Oh, I thought he was. I thought you interviewed him when you were at MTV.

1:37:19 Did you, what did you have for breakfast? I don't, yeah, normally, okay, it's true. I think it's the wine you had, like something's wrong. No, it's actually true, it's actually true, you're right. You're off, yeah. Normally, I'm gonna do a little inside baseball here. Normally, on the show days, I have a croissant coffee and some bubbling water, which reminds me of Paris. Wait, wait, do you eat this standing up at a bar? Or you have a croissant and an espresso and some bubbling water? And you go, Sacre bleu! Today I had French toast with maple syrup and I think it's affected the show. It will certainly affected your attitude. I am in not a good mood. No, that's all right. You're human.

1:38:04 And it could be because, well, actually play the IM Jada thing and then, uh, so I, well, I find the clip I'm looking for. pose of your own to fight back and you took a picture of yourself just before going on air. We see it there and hashtag I am Jada is the hashtag if you want to stand in support of Jada you can tweet that pose that Jada's come up with to take control and send the signal that victims aren't going to be silent. Hey Jada, I really appreciate your taking the time to join and telling this story. I know it's hard and I know for so many victims out there it's empowering to see you talking about this.

1:38:40 Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Well as we mentioned for this week's call to action We're gonna be following this all week and we're gonna be looking to create a Twitter firestorm fighting back against this kind of cyberbullying There's way too much blaming the victim on social media and what happened to Jada has got to be a tipping point We're asking you to stand with her and join a chorus saying that we won't stand for this kind of ugly behavior. So tweet a photo of yourself. You can hold a sign saying hashtag I am Jada. You can put hashtag I am Jada under it. Just do that pose, raise your hand like she did. I'll be doing mine right after the show. Again, here's Jadas if you want an example. We want to harness the same medium that bullies use to try to hurt her to fight back, to show all the Jadas of the world that you, me, all of us can use social media as a tool for good.

1:39:27 Thank you so much. Stay with us. Wow. Okay. Change your Twitter icon people and then carry on as resume normal activity because you know that you will have done something for activism. This is like, do you remember the hashtag? Yes, all women. Boy, that changed the world, didn't it? Yes, all women. Well, I know this is lame. And by the way, yes, all women. I'm not laughing about that, but it doesn't change anything. She's apparently gang raped or something. And then somebody took some pictures of her naked and then they posted them. And of course, this is all illegal. And it's just a matter of time before these guys are arrested. But this sort of thing, I totally agree with you. I think it is a lame. Oh, I did my part.

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

FCC Website Crash and Net Neutrality Comments

The FCC extended its deadline for public comments on net neutrality after its website was overwhelmed by thousands of submissions. The hosts question whether the outage was a legitimate "glitch" or a coordinated DDoS attack, criticizing the government's IT infrastructure.

fcc· net neutrality· ddos· the guardian· internet association

1:40:14 kind of thing. Oh yes, it's what it all is. I tweeted a protest to the FCC. Well, you know what? It's very interesting you say that because there seems to be a new way of, a new form of activism which I don't think has been properly investigated and this is for the packet equality debate. So these guys, you know, this stupid NGO that I've been tracking that has a million websites and their latest one was Battle for the Net. You know, these are all paid for activism groups and they claim that because of their actions and their take action now form, which was...so we had the deadline of July 15th to...for the question period for the FCC regarding net neutrality.

1:41:03 And of course, you know, these guys are like, yes, we need regulation. Let the FCC bring in rules. Yeah, only legal content. Bring it all in. They claim that they brought down, that they broke the website because of that. Now, I don't care how many thousands of people are submitting emails and forms or whatever. You're not going to break the FCC website with that. This had to be a DDoS or something of that ilk. And now indeed, the FCC came out and said, okay, we're extending the period by, I think, another week. because of the Federal Communications Commission was forced to extend the deadline for comments over its controversial plans to change the way it regulates the internet after its systems were overwhelmed by thousands of new submissions. All I'm missing here is the word glitch. What is wrong with our government?

1:41:58 What is wrong with our government? Really? By Tuesday afternoon? Well, they're trying to pull a fast one and get hold of the, you know, get control of the internet, which is what they're really trying to do here. Yeah. Well, but these guys want it. You get kind of squirrely. You do things weird. But these guys want it. Thousands more submissions were expected before the planned deadline. And then the website went down. Must be a glitch. Not surprisingly, we have seen an overwhelming surge in traffic on our website that is making it difficult for many people to file comments. No, I don't see Amazon go down. A second round of comments on the original submissions will then begin ending in September. Not surprisingly, please be assured that the Commission is aware of these issues and is committed to making sure everyone trying to submit comments will have their views entered into the record.

1:42:49 Who is in charge of IT? A dude named Ben? Now, I'm pretty sure that this was a hostile attack and they're either incompetent and can't actually understand what happened, but certainly it's not flowing upwards towards the spokesman. And they'll be telling you what to do shortly. So this is the Internet Association and all the, yeah, exactly, all these other groups. And it's, disturbing to me as a citizen that this is the way that...and this reporting is just...and this is The Guardian, of course, they have some British company, some British outfit report on it, but there's no...it's like, what happened? I am interested, I believe we need...we have a right to know why did the period have to be extended because of thousands of submissions? Who is running the show there?

1:43:43 Did you not expect this to be a hot debate? Did you not have your extra servers, like you always say, you pull in? This should all be done automatically. Well, of course. But the fact that it's not even being reported on is just sad. I don't know what to tell you that I haven't told you before. The whole scene has been deteriorating ever since a bunch of newbies came in to write about tech and all they care about is phones. Phones this, ooh a new phone. A phone with yellow, ooh a phone that's made out of plastic on the outside, oh metal on the outside. Hey, did you see that other guy who had a screen? It was just, it was the glass, it was crystal sapphire. You know what, we could do a show about that.

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

MH17 Debris and Passport Photos on Twitter

Photos circulating on Twitter show pristine Dutch passports recovered from the MH17 wreckage. The hosts find the condition of the documents suspicious and discuss the rapid formation of media narratives surrounding the crash before official investigations begin.

mh17· twitter· passports· life news· amsterdam

1:44:29 Hey, look, let's try and scratch it with a knife with some keys. Let's drive a car over it. Oh, it didn't work with the car. Oh, well, don't drive. What have we learned? Don't drive your car over your phone. Right. No, the whole thing is. And so that's the kind of reporting you're going to get. Very interesting as I'm receiving news. All we can do is complain, by the way. Well, I don't use a phone anymore, so I don't care. I really don't care. I'm looking at, people are sending me lots of Dutch news, of course, because, you know, this Malaysian aircraft took off from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, where you can get free Wi-Fi. You may not arrive at your destination, but if you're a No Agenda producer, you can get free Wi-Fi. Free Wi-Fi at Schiphol. The No Agenda Wi-Fi network. Now people are, we have pictures appearing on Twitter

1:45:19 apparently of passports from the wreckage. And so there's a picture of a pile of, a lot of them Dutch actually, passports just laying in the grass. They look pristine. That looks pretty, that sounds pretty weird. Yeah, see I don't like this at all. And it's kind of interesting that this is happening while we're doing the show because all the misinformation, the story is formed right now. This is at the very beginning, there'll be things that you'll hear about you'll never hear about again. And so the Dutch, well it's the Telegraaf, which is not a very trustworthy publication, but they are the biggest one.

1:45:58 It's kind of like the daily mail, I guess. Worse probably. What's the hashtag that you're seeing? I'm looking at a newspaper report. I'm not looking at a hashtag. Oh, I thought you said Twitter. Well, yeah, because it says here... Oh, you want me to translate that? No. In pictures on Twitter, people have been showing many in particular Dutch passports. I found them, I found them, they were good. No hashtag. Oh yeah, the hashtag is pray for MH17. Wait, they're doing another pray, pray hashtag? Yeah. And here's a pile of passport, you're right. I'm looking at the photo. It is a, from Life News, the Russian publication or maybe it's Ukrainian, I can't tell. Say Cyrillic, of pristine

1:46:55 mint condition Passports and there's one two three four five six that is a whole pile of them and one looks like a United States one because of the color but it's covered and What's the explanation for this? We do people aren't there I don't know that you give they put your passports in a pile somewhere And it's not like checking into a Russian hotel in you know and now right news is showing very strange. Yeah, I So this is already we now all of a sudden we're getting into this territory again. Yeah of bullcrap But this is how they this is how they light it up John I'm telling you whoever gets the blame for this. This is gonna be misused now All we need is to hear watermelon head carry Someone's gonna stand it. Well, you want dibs on John McCain? They're Russians. They're kidding people. We need to bomb them

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

Ryan Block's Viral Comcast Cancellation Call

Tech reporter Ryan Block released a viral recording of a Comcast representative refusing to cancel his service. The hosts speculate that the timing of the release is intended to influence the pending Comcast-Time Warner Cable merger by highlighting poor customer service.

comcast· ryan block· time warner cable· merger· customer service

1:47:54 There's quite a few photos. Here's a picture of the inside of a phone, perfect condition by the way. Who knows? Perfect condition. Allegedly this landed on some rooftop in the area and already it's tweeted. Hey, we kind of glossed over the tech news of the day and I think that we should still discuss it because I believe it has to do more with policy and big business than anything. Yeah. And believe me, we might as well talk about it now because everyone's going to be talking about it on all the tech shows. Okay. This is the Ryan Block Comcast call. Oh, right. And I listened to this eight minutes and what was your takeaway?

1:48:37 Something's fishy about it because there was no, there's no beginning of it. You don't know when he actually started, how long this deep, how deep this was into the conversation. He says 10 minutes after the, 10 minutes in, which I find hard to believe. It's hard to believe. And he's goading the guy by, you know, not answering anything because you want to, you really want to discontinue your service. Say to the guy and the guy's harassing you, say, I'm leaving the country. I don't need this service anymore. Go. And the guy would disconnect, you'd be done. But instead he's like goading the guy, leading him on to make him ask more and more. I'm not gonna... It's none of your business. Why are you quitting? None of your business, mister. And then he apparently had one of these guys... Well this is not the first time that... Here's my take. It's not the first time Ryan Block has been tricked.

1:49:28 into trying to hurt a company, because I believe that's what this is about. Please note that the Time Warner, the Comcast-Time Warner merger is now being, you know, it's in the last legs of the regulators looking at can they do this or not. And to have a, and if you Google the story, and you look at all the headlines, there is, and gee, it's really amazing how the internet works, but there's a lot of stories saying, Right, well if we only have one company to go to, this is an example and this is what your customer service is going to be like. This is the takeaway and this is purposely done. At the same time we have Murdoch coming in trying to want to buy Time Warner, please. There's too much coincidence with big

1:50:16 Big, big, big money. What, 70, 80 billion dollars? And Ryan Block, who, this is five or six years ago, and he published an ad. What he thought was, oh, there's an internal Apple email, and Apple was going to be in trouble. And then, you know, he published that. And the guy, he's easy to spoof. Look at him. If he got married to Veronica Belmont, I mean, clearly he's gullible. Well, how come...why don't we just take the other extreme of this possibility, that he got paid to do this? Yeah, could be. Could be, but I can't... Because I don't know how you get that gig. He doesn't work for some intelligence agency, it seems to me, to know that you should do this. That's why I went looking. He's been spoofed in the past. You know, he's like a tech reporter. I mean, you know,

1:51:05 And by the way, he's a former Time Warner, AOL, you know, all these things fit together. You know what I mean? A lot of these things are just can't be coincidences. So you think that somebody called him up and was a fake? Or he called them up. I was under the impression he called them and that's the guy he got. I'm not sure. All I know is that all of a sudden, and he's publishing this and you know it's like the big viral story and it all leads down to, oh, this is what it's going to be like after the Comcast Time Warner. The takeaway is, can't Comcast are a bunch of douchebags. And it's only going to get worse if they're allowed to be the biggest. Right. That's what it's going to be.

1:51:47 So I don't think I can question him. I don't know. I don't think he's smart enough to take money for it. He's not a good enough actor to do that. But I just think he's gullible. I think that somehow whatever he did, he got into this and... Do you think that it could be possibly set up by him? I don't think so. Well, not as you mentioned it, probably not. I mean, I've known the guy. I've worked with him. And he's... He's not a very funny guy, he's not like the guy with the great sense. I mean he's not humorless, but he's not like a goofball, that's for sure.

1:52:26 I don't know. I have no idea. All I know is that the thing seems a little fishy and out of proportion. I had a similar problem when I tried, I had Vonage for a while years ago just to play with it. And I, you know, I'd play with it. I didn't like it. Didn't work in words and how it should. And I dumped it. And I had one of these guys who wouldn't let me quit. And I kind of strung him along myself because he listened to these guys. It's like, what are you nuts? And it, you know, at some point it's annoying. And you just tell the guy to get lost. And just unhook me, will ya? That's all I'm asking. Well, you know, and they go on. But it's actually, I don't know if you got the same letter from the producer. One of our producers used to work for Comcast and he was one of those guys. And he said that, you know, the guy was a little extreme, generally speaking, just trying to do an out, you know,

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Cable Bill Costs and Market Competition in Austin

Adam Curry details his experience negotiating with Time Warner Cable in Austin, where his monthly bill for a "triple play" package reached $333. He discusses the lack of true competition in the ISP market and the necessity of high-cost plans for professional broadcasting.

time warner cable· austin· espn· hbo· triple play

1:53:21 The theory is you call in and you say I'm quitting and they say why are you quitting? Well, I'm going over here. Why are you going over there? Well, it's because it's cheaper. Well, we'll give you that price right which by the way I did with Time Warner on our move and they took a hundred bucks off my monthly bill how much was the bill? It's fucking crazy John Do you really want to know? Are you ready to hear how badly I'm getting raped in Austin, Texas? I'm all ears. Now, bear in mind... This is television, radio, uh... Internet. Internet. And telephone. And phone, okay. And the triple play. And the triple play and the telephone we can't use because they immediately sold my name to everybody. So that thing was just ringing all day long. So we can use... It's unusable to answer it if someone calls. Only for outgoing.

1:54:12 And of course, because I need packages so that I can watch all the three C-spans. I believe C-span three is somehow not included in your standard lineup. Something weird about that. All the cable news channels. You know, I pretty much have everything except sports. Because I don't give a crap. So I do have ESPN, but no other sports packages. I got no football, no special movie things, only Showtime HBO, Inc. And you're gonna laugh when you hear the number. Monthly bill was $333. I kid you not. $333 a month. And now they've taken it down to $182. Still too high. Well, of course it's too high.

1:54:58 You know, and I, because it, oh, you have the, you have the 30 megabit down, 5 megabit up. Yeah, I need, so at least I can get 10 and 1 reliably. Yeah, of course, it's ridiculous. I'd love to give up the television altogether, but you know, it's, we need to be able to watch stuff. Yeah, no, we have to watch stuff. I, it should be, I should, I shouldn't be paying more than 50 bucks for everything I really want. But I just need to have the cable channels for what we do and I had to go with the most expensive package I could get on the internet for reliability. Just to be able to, you know, and also I can call a number and say, hey, it's not working. That's business, it's for our show.

1:55:48 Hmm, but it's yeah, well anyway, so they discounted you the bottom. I'll do that on the bottom line regardless of what happened and how it happened this Okay, yeah, so yeah, so you got one we've all had one of these we've all had bad experiences But it's it's being run with just if you google it and people should do this take a look at all the people who are saying oh When this when if this merger ever goes through it's going to be horrible and it's being misused for that very reason Well, and and of course this this merger something there's no other the government's never gonna stop these mergers It's all gonna be one giant cable company someday. I've actually had good luck with Comcast I mean, I think I can't use it for this show because of the jitter and they can't fix that right? I mean we have used it in an emergency, but it's always Just way too often and by the way, it was only between

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

Net Neutrality and Content Caching Boxes

The debate over net neutrality is complicated by the use of physical caching boxes provided by companies like Netflix and Google to ISPs. The hosts argue that having content stored locally at a central office inherently creates a non-neutral internet experience by prioritizing certain traffic.

net neutrality· netflix· google· sonic.net· peering

1:56:39 Comcast and Time Warner when I was in Tokyo the Comcast was actually better than Sonicnet if you'll recall. Right, right. Yeah, it peered better. Yeah, we had to actually drop the Sonicnet and use the Comcast. It was better. People sometimes think it's one big network. So this is peering, it's these deals. Right, so behind the scenes crap. You know, the very packet being equals bullshit. I mean, it's not going to work that way. I have this column, I haven't written it yet, but I'm going to write it, which is about if every packet's equal, then what are these online, you know... The boxes, the caching boxes. Caches like the Google Global Cache is one of them. And then also Netflix has a box. And you put the box at the central office.

1:57:23 And in the case of Sonic.net, I talked to the CEO about this. He's got six of those boxes. He puts the boxes online and he doesn't have to bring the movie from Netflix from all the back hall. He doesn't have to pay for that carriage. It's right there at the office and it streams directly to the customer quickly and easily. And it's a, and you get a better experience that the customer in because the box has got all the movies on it. It's like a couple of 100 terabytes or some outrageous number of things. And they maintain it, it's free, the box is free from Netflix, they maintain it. And everything is, you know, and they just, all the guy, the ISP has to do is pay for the power for the thing and that's how they figure out whether it's worth doing it or not. And I says to him, I says, hey dude,

1:58:15 How is this net neutral? Because if you're voodoo and you're selling movies to people, you don't have a box in your place. It's not gonna be the same experience of the movie from voodoo as it is from Netflix. And how is that every packet is equal? Seems to me as though these packets have priority if it's sitting in the central office. And he didn't say anything that it was, you know, he felt pretty much the way I do, which isn't, it's just like the whole net neutrality argument is bogus. How does that, you know, it's not fair. I mean, Google's got these things all over the place. Wow, man. They're showing closeups of passports, Dutch passports. Yeah. This guy's from Appledorn. Damn. It's going to be very interesting because of,

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

NATO Implications of the MH17 Crash

Because the Netherlands is a NATO member, the downing of a flight departing from Amsterdam carries significant geopolitical weight. The hosts discuss the potential for the event to be used as a pretext for military escalation, noting recent leadership changes in the UK's foreign ministry.

nato· netherlands· william hague· ukraine· false flag

1:59:04 We'll get a lot of Dutch news, which is good because I speak the language. We'll see if we can get anything of any use. It's gonna be a hell of a lot better than Anderson Pooper sitting there with the dildo boy pontificating. Fuck. This is bad, John. I got a bad feeling about this one. You know, this is a NATO country, you know? When you attack a NATO country in the Netherlands, this is not... this is bad. And CNN is showing rocket launchers. Oh, it could have been one of these. Fuck. Could have been, could have been, should have been, would have been. Yeah, that's really, really not good. These are Nazis in the Ukraine. And they're the kinds of guys who love Nazis just based on history and love false flags. I put it beyond them shooting this thing down and then blaming the Russians. Just wait, let's see. The Russians are not going to shoot this thing down if they have no reason to. They just started a bank.

2:00:03 Yeah, but they're trying to work with India and China and South Africa. They don't want to do that. It'd be nuts. Putin, if he wanted to do something, he could do it. This is, you're right, this is totally crazy. And we always predicted that it would probably be one of the nuclear plants they would light up because that's real easy to do. But no, when you think about it, how stupid. It's much easier. Get a Malaysian Airlines. Of course, because everyone loves that. Just blow it out of the sky and then blame it on the Russians. And they could have taken it down with one of their fighters. They have all the jets over there, the Ukrainians. Wow. Go up there, launch a little air to air. There's no trail coming from the ground. The thing crashes. This makes me a little sad though. People are willing to go to these lengths. Well, you'll see.

2:00:56 You'll see this. I think this is gonna start it off. This is this could start it off We have to be cool heads must prevail right now and we'll and you're gonna see a holes like McCain and Lindsey and his girlfriend as his Southern Bell Lindsey Graham and they're gonna be popping up and Putin's crazy, and oh we got to get rid of him and if it's not that then the whole outfit is funded by the blame everybody Did you see all the changes that went on in the Euro land while we're over there anyway? We had the UK, our boy is out! Hague! He's no longer the big Gitmo guy. He's no longer the foreign minister. Yeah, I know, a cue ball? Yeah, let me play it. This guy. Intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework. We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it.

2:01:58 In some countries, secret intelligence is used to control their people. In ours, it only exists to protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Protect their freedoms. Malaysian crash. Well, there you go. So why is he why why? There's no reason does he come up and talk about every plane crash now every planet goes down We got to talk about it. No Yeah, this looks like a setup. This is a bad setup. Okay back to Euro land I'm just gonna ignore him for a minute. So Hague is down as foreign secretary and

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

European Parliament Leadership and Nigel Farage's Critique

Nigel Farage delivers a scathing speech in the European Parliament, criticizing the "secret ballot" election of Jean-Claude Juncker as Commission President. Farage labels the process a "stitch-up" by Angela Merkel and a betrayal of European voters who had no direct say in the appointment.

nigel farage· jean-claude juncker· european parliament· angela merkel· democracy

2:02:44 There's a whole reshuffle of the cabinet, which was kind of obfuscated by what's going on in Brussels. And I will say that Nelly Smith-Krus, the woman I love to hate, who was the... She's the one that docked Microsoft and Google, and she was part of the anti-competitive office. Now she's down a couple steps, but she's now coming out and supporting Hella Thorne-Schnickenlin for the big council job, which would be Heiko Hermann's job. Then of course we have Jean-Claude Juncker, known universally as the drunk, who in a backroom deal has now been elected to Barroso's job. But Barroso

2:03:36 has been moved over into some kind of powerful position which is like another backroom dealing. Well, it's just a guy had keeping income. I mean these poor guys. Well, I think the best way... They're working so hard. The best way to really evaluate what's going on is to have Nigel Farage stand up and bitch about it. That usually helps us understand. Yes, let's listen to Nigel. Thank you and good morning everybody. If this is European democracy in action as we've heard this morning, I suggest we have a rethink. We're told that as a result of the European elections, Mr Juncker here is the nominee. Well, I can tell you that absolutely nobody in the United Kingdom knew that when they voted in the European election, it had anything to do with the next nominee. And the truth of it is your voters

2:04:25 actually in your countries, didn't realise what this process was. Mr Juncker's name did not appear on any single ballot paper. And the whole thing has been the most extraordinary stitch-up. I mean, the loser, Mr Schultz, gets the consolation prize of being an unprecedented second-term president in the Parliament. I mean, it's all just a pretense that we're increasing democracy. Now, of course, I'll be told, ah, yeah, but hang on a second. The European Parliament, the elected bit of the European institution, did actually have a say and did decide whether Mr Juncker was to become Commission President or not.

2:05:03 Well let's just have a think about the process we're about to engage in. We've all got to be asked to vote and we've got one candidate to vote for. I mean it's like good old Soviet times isn't it? Surely democracy means you get rather more of a choice than one. But I think far worse than that, far worse than that, it is going to be a secret ballot. I mean you really couldn't invent it could you? Hard on the heels of a European election, our voters are not going to know how any of us have voted. I would say to you Mr. Schulz, as President of the Parliament, that Parliament shouldn't vote in secret. The whole point of being publicly elected representatives is we should be held accountable for our actions to our own voters and to be asked to vote in secret. You want to hear more? Because he keeps going, it's pretty good. Oh yeah, come on.

2:05:57 I think it's a huge insult to voters to ask us to vote in secret. Nothing wrong with that. Seems perfectly fine to me. Don't you think what you think John? Oh, yeah, I would go guy in yeah thought after the huge advances in the Euroskeptic vote there might have been a rethink somewhere in Brussels, but clearly that was not to be mr Cameron had a brief go and tried to oppose your candidacy, but he was busy succeeding with reshuffles in Britain but failing with reshuffles here and And Mrs. Merkel of course crushed him because what the German Chancellor says goes in the modern Europe. Yeah! Deutschland blitzkrieg! So what of our nominee? Well on the plus side, Mr. Juncker, you are a sociable cove with a very much better sense of humor than most people I've met in Brussels. And there's no question

2:06:55 that you are a political operator and you've even managed to over the last couple of weeks as you've gone around the political groups change the mood music a bit. You've said that you don't believe in the United States of Europe. You don't believe in a common European identity. But I have to say I didn't believe a word of it. Especially now with those sashes everybody gets to wear. Did you order one yet? You know, there's just a little bit. I'm going to have one made. I think it'd be cheaper. I want to have an official one. I don't think you have to actually show your paperwork. You can just order it, right? You don't have to prove that you're a member of European Parliament. You'd look great in one of those things. I think Mickey and I would both look great if we walked into parties everywhere, just both of us wearing these sashes. No, no, no, you can't do it. You can't both wear a sash. That makes her look like a beauty queen. She needs to be... You need to wear... You look the ministerial type. You'd be wearing the sash with the tux, and she'd be wearing a white gown. With a tiara.

2:07:53 With a small tiara, perhaps, yes, that would be good. And a Gucci bag. And probably some sort of a pin or something that would indicate royalty. Yeah, like an iron cross. You could go, you would be carte blanche. Carte blanche, you'd be getting free meals. I have to wear it. I don't own a tuxedo. I have to get one of those. Black suit would be fine. Okay, I was going to say because that's an expense. It's a little above my pay grade. Yeah, you don't need... I said no, the tux probably with a little bow tie wouldn't work. I think a regular tie and a black suit would be perfect. And I think I have to talk with a little bit of an accent. Just a little bit. Yeah. When I was in Austria,

2:08:34 for the European Parliament. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I could have you over as a visiting dignitary. This is his name is Jean-Claude de Vorac. Hello. Hello Jean-Claude. Explain to everyone where you're from. I'm from the Principality of Monaco. Now everyone knows who's in Monaco. I'm from the Principality. I didn't say no. They do not know me. Listen to me, Liechtenstein. Liegt den Stein! You talked about Monsieur Delors being a hero of yours. Well, I can understand that from your perspective. But you also talked about Mr. Mitterrand and Mr. Cole as being heroes of yours. I would have thought a wartime collaborator and somebody who left German politics under a huge cloud of a massive party funding scandal should not be the kind of people that we should stand up as great models of virtue in modern Europe today. It just keeps on going.

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren Political Maneuvering

Political speculation suggests Elizabeth Warren is being positioned for a Supreme Court seat to clear the path for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential run. Meanwhile, the death of a second Benghazi suspect in Libya is noted as a potential complication for Clinton's record.

hillary clinton· elizabeth warren· supreme court· benghazi· clarence thomas

2:09:37 Alright good enough But there you go so secret vote and everybody's good to go And hopefully we'll have a secret vote which will bring hella Thorne Thorne Helen Schmitzen whatever her name is into into the fray, which I'm very much looking forward to, because we do need more women to make fun of in politics. It's very boring to only be making fun of men. Yes. And of course now we have, what a genius move they've done with Pocahontas. Very, very smart. So Hillary 2016, of course, is the heading of the topic. We have the second Benghazi suspect, Faraj al-Shibli,

2:10:22 who potentially could have blown open more of this case. His body was found in an eastern Libyan town. He's dead, that's kind of unfortunate. And then Pocahontas, who looks very much like a real contender, if you don't want to have someone run against you, you know this is the perfect time now that we have five dudes making decisions about women's vagines. Perfect time to talk. Isn't one of those five white dudes actually Clarence Thomas? Yeah, who was it that said that initially, the five white guys? Was that, was that Pelosi? It seems like something Pelosi would say. Yeah, it was Pelosi. Let me check. I have, I can check it real easy. Five white dudes. Because I think it was one person who said five, five white guys and then there was someone else who was just

2:11:17 Who said just five guys might have been Pelosi. I'm assuming I find it for you. Are there not five guys? Are there six guys? I thought there's six guys when the five white guys and one black guy. I think Clarence Thomas voted opposed to it. No, he wouldn't have. Thomas would have been on that vote. Yeah, but I think he was opposing the five white guys. No. It's five white guys, one black guy and three women. Yeah, nine. Correct? I think one of the one, no, there was the way How did it play out? Now I gotta see who voted for it. I got the clip, here we go. We should be afraid of this court that five guys should start... She says five guys. There was a five white guys. No, somebody said five white guys. I know, but it wasn't Pelosi. Okay, well, whatever. It's not important. I'm pretty sure... Because I think Clarence Thomas is being left out of the discussion. He never talks anyway.

2:12:16 I know. Apparently he votes very radically too. Anyway, we need to obviously try now that everyone's talking about, oh yes, Elizabeth Warren would be great for the Supreme Court. You see, that's the trick the Clintons play. There are many progressives who would much rather see Warren on the Supreme Court. There's also the counter move on that, which is Hillary should be on the Supreme Court. It's rock them, sock them robots, I tell you. Because people have said that. They've talked about Hillary before Warren even showed up on the scene. They've talked about Hillary getting that Supreme Court thing and she'll probably take it. Well, this is a good one. It's a better gig. I have to say, thank you. It's a better gig. If you want real power, if you want free shit, you get on the Supreme Court, man. That's where you get some shit. Then you're not scrutinized. You run around in your cape. You got your whole outfit, your cape.

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Millennial Generation Attitudes and the "Hipster" Look

A discussion on the millennial generation references a Reason.com poll suggesting young people are increasingly distrustful of large authorities. The hosts also critique the modern "rockabilly" aesthetic of beards and tattoos prevalent among European and American youth.

millennials· reason poll· hipsters· tattoos· rockabilly

2:13:19 You know, it's easy, your wardrobe is simple. That's true power, I think. That's definitely powerful, you get a good salary, a lifetime job, good expense account. Hola! As a millennial with shitty handwriting, your and John's rant about the ultra-picky neoliberal rule-following trader Joe shopping hardly working government and Obama-loving millennial generation disturbed me deeply. I did some looking, while racked with fear and the urge to buy seeds, and found this article saying the millennials aren't lefty government pawns, but in fact distrust any large authority and hold centrist views. We've got a no agenda generation going on here." And then it points to a Reason.com poll. 10 fun facts about the millennial generation, which is a link bait.

2:14:11 Poll poll other link bait so of course we hope that we have a no agenda generation and we believe that there are many people in the millennial age group who are catching a clue and are Tuning into our program. We have actual proof of them doing so but in general I think the Millennials are nothing but trouble you John I know I'm in total agreement with that because they have They have a weird dissociative arrogance that is hard to explain but they do not They really think that they can be independent of everything, all the other generations, and reinvent the wheel. And there's also this look that I'm getting very annoyed by, and it's all over Europe, certainly in the Germanic countries. And it's the millennial dude with the beard and the tattoo. Have you seen this look? Hipsters. It's not, no. It's different from a hipster. Got a beard. If you just Google millennial beard and tattoo,

2:15:15 Yeah. You'll see it and it's kind of like a rockabilly hair with a, you gotta have a beard and a mustache and then short on the sides and kind of a little thick on the top and your tattoo, it's like a rock, it's kind of a rockabilly thing. Hold on, let me just go. Are you seeing it? No, I'm just typing and I have to reach across where the microphone is. Millennial beard and tattoo. It is not a hipster. Wow, there's a naked one. That guy's cut. Shit. Yeah, these are hipsters. They've got a hat. No, it's not. Hat is a hipster. These are no hats. It's just the beard. It's the cropped beard and you got the tank top. It's like the rockabilly and then the tats. I see what you're... I got one here. Yeah, you got it. You know what I'm saying? It's an annoying look. Yeah, yeah. It's an annoying look. There's no doubt about that.

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Producer Credits and Amateur Radio D-Star

The hosts read through a list of donations from producers across the globe, including several amateur radio enthusiasts. They discuss the technical merits of D-Star radio and acknowledge the support of "knights" from Canada, the UK, and the United States.

d-star· amateur radio· donations· canada· uk

2:16:13 I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab You have some people to thank for this show and we're gonna thank them Beginning with sir. Stop that. Where's that theme? Yeah. Hold on a second. Why do I not see it? Skip over him while I'm looking for it. This is crazy. James Butcher in Dalwallenu. $111.11. Trying to bring the old thing back. Sorry about that.

2:17:03 Also, Sir Steven came in with $123.12345. Been a douchebag for too long now. Too many shows behind. Not enough commuting due to child custody arrangements. So please accept this pittance as a small token of my immense appreciation for the work you guys do so thoroughly on our behalf so we don't have to. Grazie mille. Thank you very much. Grand Duke Stephen Pelsmakers of the Netherlands and France, Belgium and France, I'm sorry, Belgium and France. Well, shit, we'll give him the Netherlands, might as well have that part. The lowlands. James Butcher in Dalwallenu, 1111 in Australia. Robert Mueller in Chesapeake, Virginia, $110, and this is gonna be his knighthood. And he wants to be Sir Great Goomer of the Outer Banks.

2:17:55 I'm not sure what that means. And he wants mushrooms and makers mark. Mushrooms and makers mark? Okay. Yeah. I don't know if it's mushrooms or shrooms, whatever the case is. No, it has to be an M to be illiterate. Oh, mushrooms and makers mark. Right. Okay. It's rhyming. I didn't realize that. Sir Michael Randall in Halifax, Nova Scotia, 7733. Birthday coming up. For someone, Stuart Venable in Pasadena, $75. Let me just jump around here. Peter Goodall in Crestwood, Missouri, $75. Sir Sam Long in Toronto, Ontario. Great working you on the D-Star last week, Adam. Hope the move went well. Are your repeaters still down? No, it's not. Your repeaters back up.

2:18:51 No, but I worked him on the on the d-star you worked him. I worked him. I worked him hard on the d-star you worked him hard Yeah, okay good We have another 73 here Neil Chapman Exeter Devon UK He has, has he got a thing here for douchebagging callout? No. He got something, I've had my amateur radio license 15 years but haven't been very active. After listening to your tales of D-Star, I thought it was about time I got back into it. Hell yeah. He can probably, we can work our, worm our way over to him. I'm gonna check your repeater right now. D-Star is the best. I'm gonna check your repeater right now. Sean Mooney

2:19:33 5511 in Saskatoon Saskatchewan here we go. Let's check. I'm gonna link to ww6 BA why? You're right You're down. I'm down for the count I had I needed that to be up because I was doing a I was having dinner with everybody and I was gonna show something off and they didn't Hey, let me show you this is really cool. How this thing works and everyone's saying like oh Yeah, it's great. Kevin McLaughlin, Locust, North Carolina, 55 double nickels on the dime. Kevin. I got dibs on his wine collection when he finally goes crazy. Kevin Nunez in East Brunswick, New Jersey, double nickels. Andy Benz, double nickels on the dime in St. Louis, Missouri. Birthday coming up there. Daniel Calvin in Mackinac Island up in there in Northern Michigan, double nickels on the dime. David in Loveland, Colorado, 55, 10.

2:20:32 CSS Computer Solutions and Services, once again, 5333. uh... her blam another birthday boy sugar hill georgia fifty thirty three which is a different fifty three thirty three brian hunter and these are all fifty dollar donations brian hunter uh... knoxville tennessee michael westerfield the parts unknown easy in all the time great guy i think it's sir mike josh mcdonnell mount waverly victorious john camp antlers oklahoma it's a great name for a town

2:21:08 My favorite name for a town is Naubone, Indiana. Do we have any listeners there? Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada. Bruce... I think that's Sir Chris by now. Sir Chris Lewinsky. Bruce Schwalm, parts unknown. Can you get a better pronunciation than that? No, Schwalm was pretty good. Christopher Charles Bloomfield, Ontario, Canada. Mark Raley in Germantown, Maryland. Philip Meason, Sir Philip Meason, Welshpool, Pows. UK. Eric Mann in Spring Hill, Florida, Spring Hill something. And finally Kyle Sellers in Valencia. I have a note from Kyle which I have to go to the other desk to get. Please fill. Okay. Gee, I don't know what can I fill it with? I really don't have anything.

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

MBA Student Seeks SEO Help for Class Contest

A listener pursuing an MBA asks the No Agenda community for help winning an SEO contest for an IT class. The hosts use the request to criticize the modern education system and the "scam" of search engine optimization, questioning why students are taught to prioritize Google rankings above all else.

mba· seo· google· bit.ly· education

2:22:05 Well that's not very good Phil. Okay, here's Phil. I hate you guys. You guys are a- Especially Kenny. I hate him the most. Okay, now let's try one all together. I hate you guys. Come on, you guys know the words. Especially Kenny. Hey. I know, it's your job. I just thought this was a good letter because I think it tells a story. I just paid nearly $15,000 for tuition to my MBA program and realized that the only value for value I'm getting is eventually a piece of paper announcing that I'm a better trained slave than the rest of the slaves out there. So it was obviously time for me to step up and stop being a boner.

2:22:56 I receive far greater value from the No Agenda show, but since I'm committed to paying for my slave certification, I'm committing to finishing my knighthood as soon as I graduate and I have my cash flow back to pre-tuition levels. Now I thought maybe the No Agenda producers could help me cheat on my homework. I'm in an IT class and the winner of the class SEO contest gets a grade boost. Since SEO is basically a giant scam, I imagine producers are uniquely qualified to help me beat the system. Anyway, he's got a bit.ly, B-I-T dot L-Y slash producer homework.

2:23:43 with a capital P and a capital H if anyone's interested. You can rewind that. Anyway, so, value for value from Slave Kyle. I'm looking right now, bit.ly, and here's in the competition. Looks like a lot of reading. Oh, my eyes glaze over. Your task, employ SEO tactics to establish the top organic listing for the search phrase, info process competition summer 2014. Is that what they're teaching in school now? Apparently, and you have to pay money. Is that a scam, Google? That always amazes me where everyone's all in on if you're not on Google, then you just don't exist on the web.

CHAPTER 35 / 42 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Timothy Singleton and Robert Mueller

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak perform a formal knighting ceremony for Timothy Singleton and Robert Mueller. They encourage new knights to purchase official No Agenda rings and defend their authority against traditional institutions like the British monarchy.

knighthood· robert mueller· timothy singleton· no agenda rings· london

2:24:29 And why is it, why is not someone just in America, of course, created the right to be forgotten search.com database? Is it really that hard to do something innovative people? You know what I mean? Not being on Google doesn't mean you don't exist. And Google, that means Google's king. Or something like that. Anyway, I want to thank everybody here who helped us as a short list today. Hopefully we can pick it up for Sunday's show when we're going to where Adam is going to discuss the plane crash in great detail with information not found elsewhere. It's the only place you can get this sort of thing, this sort of analysis and complaining is on the No Agenda Show. And the question is if it's a crash or if it was a shoot down. It looks a lot like Flight 93, you know, a really small impact area and lots of debris everywhere else.

2:25:22 You know, I'm sorry, of course that plane actually slammed into the ground and left a very teeny hole with no nothing. Oh, you mean the one they shot down according to Rumsfeld? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. He says, we shot it down. I mean, what? Yeah, exactly. All right. Anyway, Dvorak.org slash NA. Thank you all very much for your contributions. Also everyone under $50 It is highly appreciated and I have received a couple of people who said hey I haven't gotten my podcast license 33 33 monthly gets you that just ping me and I'll be doing them later today if you've already done so and I'll send you back the URL which is usually first name last name dot podcast license dot-com Dvorak.org slash NA

2:26:10 And today we congratulate Sir Michael Randall. He is celebrating his birthday today. Andy Ben says happy birthday to his first human resource, Evelyn Olivia Benz, born on July 14th. The Siege of the Bastille and Herb Lamb says happy birthday to his son Max turns 13 on the 19th of July. Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. And two nightings today, which is very exciting. Always happy to see them and I Wow, I sharpened it. Did you hear that?

2:26:51 Doesn't sound right. Yeah, I sharpened it. I bred in the new studio. So it's all it's all good. Okay, please step forward Timothy Singleton and Robert Mueller good to have both of you joining our illustrious group of Knights and dames here at the roundtable and very happy to pronounce thee as Our Knights we have Sir Timothy and Simon Groomer of the Outer Banks for you gentlemen! Mushrooms and Maker's Mark, hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, whiskey and wet wipes, bad science and perky breasts, cavernous and cabernet, opium and warm orange juice, bong hits and bourbon, or maybe just some mutton and meat. And go to noagendanation.com slash rings, pick up your well-deserved ring for your contribution to the program in the amount of $1,000 or more, and that's how you become a knight. And it's a real knighthood!

2:27:42 If you have every right to go out and buy a blue sash, and you can wear your night ring with that, and people will say, what? You questioneth my authority? You can do that. Seems as legit as anything. Why, just because some goofball lady has a golden cage, a golden chariot with horses and lives in the center of London, why does it make her any better than us to give out knighthoods? We can do that. Well, maybe the secret police helps her. Well, there's that. Bad news in our category. A dude named Ben.

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Banker Suicides and the "Dude Named Ben" Meme

The suspicious deaths of several JPMorgan Chase IT employees are linked to a broader "banker assassination" crisis. The hosts introduce the "Dude Named Ben" meme, derived from a sci-fi series, to describe how systems administrators are viewed by high-level officials like Eric Holder.

jpmorgan chase· suicide· halle berry· eric holder· lone wolf

2:28:26 The dudes named Ben are not doing too well in the ongoing banker assassination crisis. At first I wasn't in on this, on these bankers committing suicide. So now we have three new, these are JPMorgan Chase deaths, two of them now IT guys. I was afraid this was going to happen. Because if anyone knows the systems and anyone knows how the stuff really works, it's the tech department. And now we have two from New Jersey, alleged suicide. Julian Knott and his wife Alita, age 45 and 47 respectively, Jefferson Township, New Jersey. The bodies of the Knott couple, who have a teenage daughter and two teenage sons, were discovered by police on July 6th. This is not good. Especially because they are... Oops, hold on. Missed that one. A dude named Ben. And it's cropping up everywhere.

2:29:35 Do name ben mean where we have me see i just see it we had another dude name ben it's really interesting how you get these it guys who are actually named ben. And I got a clip here from... So just to recap... Turns out that guys... yeah. Just to recap, this is a disdain and disrespect of the American Congress, the Senate, and the IRS about the IT department. I think his first name may have been Ben. Oh, a guy named Ben. A dude named Ben. That's it. That's how people think about you if you're a systems admin or you're running stuff. They think of you as a dude named Ben. Who cares? It's some dude named Ben.

2:30:19 Hallie Berry who's got this I guess a TV series called extant which I have not watched have no desire to watch a I'll give you a review Ready yeah, it stinks Molly go ahead you have an incoming V cron Bay one please sending Bay one I got accepted into school. I had my last meeting with the principal this morning. We're gonna wait for you to get back for the orientation. Ben? I'm detecting interference from a solar flare. Shall I attempt to restart after it passes? Sure. Attempt to restart. Ben?

2:31:05 Ben! I think his first name may have been Ben. Oh, a guy named Ben. A dude named Ben. There you go. Dude named Ben. If your stuff is crashing, you call for Ben. Last name Dover. I won't even give you an in the morning for that. Where's the in the morning? No, no, no, no. Not when you do a Ben Dover joke. You do not deserve that. Eric Holder, let's see we might as well go to our lone wolves category fine ABC package with George Stephanopoulos and Just propagating the meme of being very very frightened we heard about the beginning of the program where inspire magazine is inspiring people to Attack all roads that lead to New York and well Eric Holder is just lying awake about all that grown radically like the two men who allegedly attacked the Boston Marathon last year is that thread any less

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

State Department Spending on Facebook Likes

A report from the Washington Examiner reveals the U.S. State Department spent $630,000 buying Facebook "likes" and hired a social media expert in Uganda for $111,000. The hosts suggest these expenditures are precursors to "rebelization" and regime change efforts in foreign countries.

state department· facebook· uganda· dr. oz· google flu trends

2:32:07 serious these lone wolves, these homegrown violent extremists are keeping up at night as well trying to monitor them, trying to anticipate what it is that they are going to do and you know the experience that we had in Boston is instructive. It only takes one or two people to really do something horrific. You know even though we've never seen that video of them actually putting the backpacks into the trash And neither has the governor of the great state of Massachusetts. The top legal guy in the land seems pretty much all in that they're guilty and it's done and it's over. Why even put him in court? The one brother's... That's what I say, just string him up. Yeah. I think people would be much more happy to see that, just kill him. Got a couple of interesting things here. I want to run out and get him out of the way.

2:32:59 This is a, uh, just kind of weird. This is just making me sick actually. Here's Dr. Oz teasing Facebook and it led me to the second clip. Okay, hold on a second. You don't remember Dr. Oz? Yeah, I do. It's just I'm having some kind of failure here. Here we go. Up next, your most memorable Facebook moments. How many of you have made your own? The Dr. Oz Show takes a look back. Why would this be anything anyone's interested in? Are you kidding? Just put Facebook anywhere in the headline. I guess a lot of people feel that way. So I was watching a strange new network, the World Net Daily's got their own network now. And they have a couple of new shows that are, you know, they're very much, they're actually a little better produced than The Blaze.

2:33:49 which is Glenn Beck's network. But this was very interesting. They were interviewing this woman from the Washington Examiner who was discovering kinds of wastes of the taxpayers' money, and I found this one to be quite interesting. This is the clip buying Facebook likes. Oh, man. What are they spending money on? And I found that in 2010, the government spent $945 million on ads and public communication. And that was four years ago when social media wasn't even necessarily that big. And so then I did research and I just found random things like $111,000 to hire a social media person in Uganda. And a whole percent of the Ugandan population uses the internet and smartphone occasionally. So why do I need to spend money on that?

2:34:33 I also want to point out, about 30, 40 seconds we have left, I also want to point out $630,000 the State Department spent buying Facebook likes. Likes! They bought likes! Did you get a sense of what they were buying? I don't need to pay for that. Did you get a sense of what they were buying likes for and what they were liking for $630,000? I think it was just to get, this was last summer, I think it was just to get their name out, so I talked about what they're doing over at the State Department to brag about their accomplishments, but I don't know why. almost a million dollars needs to go to that. And if people want to like the State Department, they should do it on their own, not with my money. I can't imagine many people wanting to go and like the State Department, but I guess it'll be good. And almost a half a million dollars, a grant last year to fund Twitter health. Ten seconds. What was that all about?

2:35:18 It was if I'm sick, I have the flu I'm gonna tweet not feeling so well and the government's gonna say all right Don't go over in that area. She tweeted from downtown DC that she has the flu Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute Google was saying that they developed that did they develop that on behalf of the State Department and did the State Department? Pay them for that or I don't even I never even heard of this program. Oh Yeah, yeah. I think it's... I'm sure Google did get paid because their money's flying around. But the two things about this report that were interesting to me. One was the over $600,000 spent to buy likes, which is like... The whole likes thing is a scam.

2:35:57 Well, that's nothing compared to what, you know, Coca-Cola and those guys were suckered into. And who, I don't even, when I see likes, I just, I don't give a crap. I don't even, of course I don't use Facebook, so I guess I really don't give a crap. But more interesting is why do we need a social media expert in Uganda? I think that's a tip off. Oh, well, it's obvious something's going to happen. Rebelization regime change. Yes, it's coming. So this was the this was the to me was the most interesting part, because this I haven't heard about anything going on there yet. But obviously something's going to happen because they just put a stooge down there.

2:36:35 Here it is, reassessing Google flu trends data for detection of seasonal pandemic influenza. A comparative epidemiological study at three geographic scales. Man, people get paid for everything these days. That is just crazy. I have a feeling that it wasn't the State Department that paid for that. I think it was, somehow I think it was CDC, I can recall. Was it Google one? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, the report may be off. Well, it's the World Net Daily or whatever. World Day. What is it called? Africa and WND or whatever. And by the way, no destruction. The National Examiner is not or the Washington Examiner.

2:37:26 It's been a big name. For the national, I don't know what it is. Yeah, but all she did was dig, apparently there's some cool websites that you can go and you can just look random stuff up and get some numbers. And these guys have a whole TV channel now? A network, yeah, a whole channel that's on 24-7. It's competing with Al Jazeera and Glenn Beck. Beck's stuff is deteriorating. It's just, I don't know what it is. It's too Mormon. Where do they get the money from? You still have to pay for carriage, you know. These guys are not getting on cable for free. Well, they're not getting on a lot of cable it seems to me. I would think that they're... I don't think I have Blaze here. I know I have LG. They went with the satellite guys. The Dish Network has it, I'm pretty sure. Oh, really? Direct TV has it. I think the satellite guys are a little more amenable because they have more bandwidth, I believe.

CHAPTER 38 / 42 Discussion

Missing 28 Pages of the 9/11 Commission Report

Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky calls for the release of 28 classified pages from the 9/11 Commission Report. Massie, who viewed the documents in a secure room, claims the information would "rearrange the understanding of history" for the American public.

9/11 commission· thomas massie· classified· kentucky· intelligence

2:38:18 We're now 13 years after 9-11, I might as well bring it up, and we've heard a couple times that there are a, I believe it's 38 pages or 28 pages that were omitted from the official 9-11. And I have the book here. I just put it back, you know, I unpacked all the books and there's a lot in the 9-11 commission report. And apparently there were some 30 to 40 odd pages which were omitted from the report. I think we've brought it up on the show before. Have they been released yet? They have not been released, and apparently if you're a congressman and you have certain credentials, you can go and look at them in a soundproof room, booth. Maybe it's like the newlywed game where you sit there in a glass booth with the headphones on and you can't hear what the other contestants are saying. And Representative Massey, who I think is from Kentucky?

2:39:15 He saw the pages and he did a press conference about the pages without of course actually telling us what's in the pages but what he said was telling enough. This is something that the families deserve to know. This information, it's been a decade, over a decade, 13 years since this event happened. And we've had a narrative in the media and in the press and in the collective American conscience of what happened that day, but I don't think it's fully informed and it won't be fully informed until everybody gets to see these 28 pages. And just to echo what Congressman Lynch said,

2:39:53 I'm here for the families, but I'm also here for our country to look forward. We have to decide how to prevent another 9-11 type event from happening. Until you have the full picture of what actually happened, the intelligence picture, And I think that's a good question. It's in a room where it's soundproof and you're escorted in there and you're escorted out and there are no notes. But this is something, this is sort of shocking when you read it. As I read it, we all had our own experience.

2:40:39 I had to stop every couple pages and just sort of absorb and try to rearrange my understanding of history for the past 13 years and years leading up to that. It challenges you to rethink everything. And so I think the whole country needs to go through that. It's going to be difficult and could be embarrassing, but that is no reason to keep the truth from the American people. What do you think is in those pages? My God, that's hardcore, right? Holy moly. I just have to wonder what I will give you a clip of the day for that. Really? Yes. The other thing was not that it wasn't a clip of the day worthy.

2:41:25 This is really a breakthrough clip. I'm a little on the fence about that. Just do it. You can't resist. You can not do it. It's a good clip. I didn't get it. I didn't know that he had the press conference and I'm familiar with the 28 pages missing. What do you think it is though? I didn't know it was like this, like this is like space aliens. What do you think? He's saying it will change the course of history, change the way you think about everything? Yeah. You mean... I mean, I already think that Cheney was there saying, you know, stand down, stand down, don't do anything. You know, we know that it was a simulated event and then all of a sudden it turned real and all of this stuff and, and maybe, oh, oh, oh, maybe all roads lead back to Deutschland. I don't think so. I think it's separate. Whatever the case is, I don't know. So they got to release this now.

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Austin Mayoral Race and Fiber Competition

A local activist known for anti-fluoride protests is reportedly running for Mayor of Austin. The hosts also note the increased activity of AT&T technicians installing fiber lines in the city as the company attempts to compete with the upcoming Google Fiber rollout.

austin· fluoride· google fiber· at&t· mayor

2:42:30 Can't have somebody come off and say something like this. Well, you know what? I think I may have got to run for Congress. I think you have to change the damn 28 pages. Change your Twitter icon. Maybe it'll help. Already got the blue and the green in my Twitter icon the guy who? Did the Austin fluoride protests that we were tracking for a couple weeks? Yeah, the hunger strike. He's not apparently he's not dead. He's running for mayor of Austin Oh, you gonna vote for him absolutely absolutely Yeah, what's his name? Nicholas Ryan Lucier Lucier Huh yeah, but I have a pet

2:43:15 Sorry. Okay, I did. Well, is there something more to that story? I'm sorry. I was just going to read the other names and the way the story reads is who has more money. Steven Adler. I hope that's not the guns and roses drummer because that guy should not be mayor of anything. I know Steven is Steven Adler still alive. He should not be mayor. He's raised $363,000. We have, um, Let's see, Chris Riley. I think there's a woman who did... let me see... Donna Howard has raised... there's a woman who helped the Google deal. I think she's the one that's slated to be the mayor. I gotta think who that is. Some Google woman? Yeah. Oh, by the way, I saw there was a guy up on the poll here. A guy in a poll? A guy in a poll.

2:44:08 And it was hot. I'm like, hey, how are you doing, brother? It's like, oh, I've had better days. What are you doing? Oh, well, you know, just splicing the fiber up here. Fiber says, yeah, AT&T. Really? For Google? No, they're trying to be out ahead of Google. Oh, we got real competition in this town. This is good. I like it. Yeah. I can't notice it from the prices you're paying. I got no competition pretty much, and everything's cheap. We gotta get this clip out of the way because I want to make people aware of a situation that's kind of happening that we're just not being followed by the mainstream media, and I think it could evolve into something. This is not a Thom Hartmann clip, is it? No, no, this is Burma. Oh, thank goodness.

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

Buddhist Anti-Muslim Movement in Burma

An ultra-nationalist Buddhist monk named Ashin Wiratu is leading a movement to expel Islam from Burma. Reports from Mandalay indicate rising tensions and curfews as security forces attempt to manage the conflict between religious groups.

burma· mandalay· buddhism· islam· wiratu

2:44:59 Is that Salida and that's it Burma? Burma? Well, they've got their heads stuffed with stupid ideas, but here we've always lived together. The truth is that Burma's one big family. Indeed, Mandalay is known for its tolerance, its religious harmony. But an ill wind blows again here and across this whole region of Burma. This is one of the most dangerous men in the country, Ashin Wiratu, an ultra-nationalist Buddhist monk who was sworn to expel Islam from Burma. You Westerners don't understand Buddhism. You can criticize us, but we monks of Burma know that we're right. We followed a path of truth.

2:45:37 And that's the only important thing. Maybe one day you'll understand our commitment to the defense of our religion." Wiratu quietly explains his ideas to us, the roots to his fundamentalist ideology. There are in our country two priority issues that concern us greatly. The first is the democratic transition. The second is the spread of Islam. You know, I'll tell you, Hindus are courteous, Christians are very respectful, and Muslims are full of hate. In Mandalay, they are announcing a strengthening of the curfew order. Gatherings of more than five people are now banned until further notice. The old demons of the Burmese dictatorship resurface as security forces flex their muscles. What are you filming? No cameras, no filming here. Leave or we take you with us. Do you understand?

2:46:39 In the Muslim quarter, the center of recent rumors and targets of the rioting, tensions are rising. The small mosque on 83rd Street in the heart of the city is now guarded by local youths. No, you can't go in the mosque. You can't stay here. You can't stay here. Come on, tell him to leave. We have nothing to say. So, there's a real interesting situation developing in Burma, which is an anti-Muslim movement by the Buddhists. And I... The Buddhists are pretty kick-ass. I mean, they're the ones who kept Sri Lanka in, essentially, turmoil for, what, 40 years? I believe there's... I was reading a Dutch article, a Dutch journalist. There's this independent

2:47:27 website now in the Netherlands called de Correspondenten, which is the correspondence. And they've actually gone for a kind of a value for value model. And you said, as I've never paid for any online news ever, not the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, any of that. These guys can charge 60 euros a year. And I signed up and two of the, they had a journalist and his photo journalist and they were up there and this, this whole state kind of This that goes all the way from the middle of Burma almost all from the south almost all the way up to the north and and it's kind of like they're perpetually at war but it heats up from time to time and it seems like it's just whenever it needs to be turned up is when it happens. That's kind of the takeaway I got from this boots on the ground reporting. Is that does that make sense? No, I'm clueless. It's possible.

CHAPTER 41 / 42 Discussion

Libya Airport Attacks and Global Oil Prices

Rival militias in Libya have attacked the Tripoli airport, destroying 90% of the commercial aircraft on the tarmac. Despite the ongoing violence, Secretary of State John Kerry maintains that the situation is not broadly threatening, as oil continues to flow to international markets.

libya· tripoli· john kerry· oil· muammar al-qadhafi

2:48:20 But there's something weird going on there, and I think I just wanted to get it out there so people were aware that when they started hearing news and notice that we've been on this for a month. The other one that is very poorly covered, which I want to get out of the way, is the Libya update clip. And Libya apparently has just never settled down. Nobody wants to talk about it. We completely bail out from it. And John Kerry's in this clip saying, there's nothing to see here. don't worry about it. And meanwhile, they've just closed down the airport, they put a big hole in almost every airliner that was on the tarmac. And the country's locked down by a kind of a revolution that's continuing. The leaders of Libya's interim government are weighing whether to call on international forces to help restore security. Armed groups have attacked the airport in the capital Tripoli, severing links with the outside world.

2:49:12 Rival militias have been battling for control of the airport. Fighters have fired rocket after rocket. A spokesperson for the interim government says 90% of the planes have been damaged and the control tower and several fuel tanks have been destroyed. Militant groups have been fighting each other since long-time ruler Muammar al-Qadhafi was overthrown three years ago. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says U.S. officials are deeply concerned. It is not violence that is broken out every single day, all day. It's mostly fighting at night and it is not threatening broadly every interest within Libya, but it is dangerous and it must stop. Kerry said diplomats are doing what they can to support the Libyan government. You know, I'm not, I'm not, we must remember what went down here. I mean, this is, this is really,

2:50:12 how short people's memories are. Let me play a seminal sound clip from Hillary Clippity-Clop, Lucifer Clinton. So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed... Yes, we came, we saw, he died. And the whole country turned to crap. And it's getting worse. Oh, yeah, and it's good He's full of crap about that because they were showing some of the fighting it was all shot during the day So it's not arrow just at night. Don't worry about it And they did planes there was all these plates on the tarmac and every one of them They're all like nice planes like 737 757 and they all have a big apparently they had a rocket launcher or something and there's a big hole in the back of each one of them and

2:50:59 They just put a big hole in the plane. I mean, this is millions and millions of dollars of outrageous damage. Yeah, but the Chinese are out, they're not...and the oil is flowing from Libya once again. That part's working. Yeah, well, that's what Kerry, I think, was referring to when he said not everything is bad. Right. And if you look at the...I heard a report the other day... Just that you live there. This is...yeah. Hey, if you happen to be Libyan, tough on ya. But the oil is flowing, that's what's keeping our prices actually, the oil prices in the United States, gasoline prices went down a couple cents because the oil is flowing. I'm reading the front page of the Dutch newspapers. Many Dutch people amongst the dead. These are the headlines of the...it's always good to get this right as it starts. Let's see.

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

MH17 Deconstruction and Show Outro

The hosts conclude the episode by promising a deep deconstruction of the MH17 crash in the upcoming Sunday show. They plan to analyze ATC audio and aviation reports to counter the emerging media narratives and "lies" surrounding the event.

mh17· ukraine· atc· joe biden· deconstruction

2:51:45 We have apparently the black box has been found already. The king, a sad picture of the king here, he's like, oh, that sucks. Then there's the sport guy who missed his flight. He's happy. He always misses his flight. And here is, I would say, the main piece of news. The Ukrainian army has shot down the Malaysian airlines in East Ukraine. with a jet, that is what the authorities of the separatist region of Luhansk and Donetsk said on Thursday. I'm translating on the fly. Then they have... That story will change. Well, that's why I'm bringing it to you now. Pictures of the passports again.

2:52:30 And by the way, I'm seeing a lot of Dutch passports. It must be a lot of people who are from Holland. Well, it's a big plane. Those are not small. Those planes are huge. What's the president saying? Working to see. Biden speaks to the Ukrainian president, offers US assistance to investigate plane crash. Of course, if we can go in and we can blame it on somebody else, it's all the better. and the president out there. They want to get in on that fast so the truth gets covered up as quick as possible. The longer it lingers, the more likely it is to take hold. Well, I'll have a lot of news on Sunday because whenever you have this, it's a small country. People know each other and people are related and sad, sad, sad, sad, sad. It's sad. Yeah, no, it's horrible actually. It's beyond sad to me.

2:53:21 But it's just, it's just, well, no, yeah, it's one thing for the people who have died on this, who perished, but what's going to come of this, this is, remember, the Netherlands is a NATO country, and you attack one, you attack all, and this can only mean ramping up, tension, tension, tension. This is not good. Well, that sort of thing is real news. So I'm turning, I'm flipping through channels and I run into this interesting little dialogue on a, this, I mean it's just almost, I don't know if, you have to play it because it just, I clipped it, just a part of this whole show, a half an hour show, it talks, this chatter you're going to hear is called

2:54:07 It's called worst dialogue ever is the whole show if you know you think sometimes these hams on the These are kind of boring. You know hey, what are you doing? I'm on the driveway my wife's gonna cook me dinner. What's she gonna cook? I think she's gonna cook spaghetti. I had spaghetti last week now hold on a second that would not be your wife the x xyl is what we call that xyl whatever the case This is the worst dialogue ever. The hams have got high-end dialogue compared to this. That holding it, addressing it, talking about it. You know, most people don't know that the word asana, which people translate to mean pose, it actually means to find a seat, to sit. So in some ways what you're doing is you're finding a seat with the present moment.

2:54:50 And so what Colleen is saying, whatever is arising right now, you're actually accepting it, being in it and changing with it. comfortable being uncomfortable. When you're in a pose that may not be one that is a natural pose for you but you hold it and you breathe through it and you experience it, then you can take that same equanimity to the rest of your life. Equanimity is such an amazing word and really that's what it's about. Life is going to give you everything. It's going to give you the most incredible blissful joy and it's also going to give you intense suffering. And what are you going to

2:55:28 What are you going to do? Ride the roller coaster? You're going to do, ah, everything's great. No, no, everything's terrible. But to develop this equanimity and experience it all and not let any of it get stuck, I think that's what yoga is about, keeping it fluid, keeping it real. And that's the punchline. Yes, yoga is about keeping it real. It was jaw-dropping to me. Well, then since you've done that, I get to play a little bit of television here. Not that I actually watch the show. Are you familiar with The Good Wife? Oh yes. An award-winning program. A very tightly written, well-paced drama. Yes. It had the two Scott brothers, Tony and Ridley, and then I guess Tony killed himself, or Ridley did one of the two. Tony. I think Tony.

2:56:19 Here is a clip from The Good Wife. You have a lot of things, Mr. Paisley. Why do you feel so cornered? Because there are more people who want than people who have. Read Anne Ryan. Oh dear God. Have you read her books? They're awful. Well, they weren't meant to be, but they were meant to make you think. A guy bombs a building, the rich go out on strike. It's a 12-year-old's view of the world. It's like basing your philosophy on the books of John Grisham. By Ayn Rand I thought it's pretty funny the writings of a 12 year old Mostly in agreement with that so so here's here's the interesting difference where we have the Dutch and

2:57:07 News media, I'm scanning through all kinds of things saying, you know, this was a Eastern Ukrainian rebel force fighter jet that took the plane out. They didn't have fighters, but okay. I'm just reading it and on CNN they're talking about the Buk anti-aircraft missile launcher, B-U-K. That's slightly different. Yeah, one flies, one doesn't fly. And the first report was that it was Ukrainian army. Yeah. Okay, this is a big one for the the king. Let's see how the king takes this our new king This is you know it's all been party time

2:57:48 With his Argentinian hottie and now he's gonna be a problem for everybody. This is not good. No, no, I I'm in total agreement All right, we'll be all over this for sunday. So I hope people support us on the no agenda devorah.org slash na Yeah, and we'll spend a lot of extra time on this both of us I will have the aid i've already got a lot of aviation reports coming in from people. So that's always good there will be uh, atc, uh, Audio, there will be all kinds of analysis. Uh You probably should just not watch the news for the next few days because it's only gonna be about this. It'll be lies. And by the way, don't worry because if there's really something you need to know, the president will just activate the giant voice system and your phone will tell you what to do. Which will probably mean, you know, shelter in place. Or some goodness like that. Until then, uh... Be vigilant, citizen!

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