Episode 634 · Sunday, 13 July 2014

Rough Patch

A diplomatic expulsion in Berlin and a data-sharing bill in the Senate highlight a week of crumbling trust and expanding corporate surveillance.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 634

About this episode

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast for the final time from the Travis Heights hideout, reflecting on the history of the podcast since show 100. The duo analyzes the geopolitical fallout of Germany expelling the CIA station chief in Berlin following revelations of U.S. surveillance on Angela Merkel. State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki characterizes the diplomatic rift as a rough patch while internal feuds between the NSA and CIA spill into the public record.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and John Kerry face scrutiny over World Population Day initiatives and the International Conference on Population and Development. In the Middle East, reports from Tel Aviv detail the Iron Dome defense system as a subsidy for American contractors like Raytheon, while Vladimir Putin visits Cuba to forgive $32 billion in Soviet-era debt. Domestic concerns take center stage as the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2014, introduced by Dianne Feinstein, proposes corporate indemnification for sharing private user data with federal intelligence agencies.

John C. Dvorak vents about grocery store etiquette and the rise of grimy reusable bags while Adam Curry proposes a billion-dollar plan to gamify amateur radio for the maker generation. The hosts examine the death of Google executive Forrest Hayes on a yacht and the media's fixation on the World Cup final as a tale of two popes. Maxwell Finn is knighted for his contribution as the show transitions to a new legal structure and a new studio location.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Travis Heights Hideout, Podcast History, Show 100

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the episode from the Travis Heights hideout, discussing Curry's upcoming move and the technical setup of the show. They reflect on the history of the podcast, noting that many listeners revisit early episodes starting from show one. The hosts recall show 100 as a pivotal moment when they considered quitting before deciding to continue the program.

adam curry· john c dvorak· travis heights· silicon valley· podcasting history

00:00 I love how he has that Silicon Valley thing. Right? Right, right? With the last episode from the Travis Heights hideout in FEMA region 6 in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry For Northern Silicon Valley where I'll be staying put, I'm John C. DeVore I've been doing the show for a half an hour. It's true, well you know i'm alone here so... ...I had to do everything by myself What would that entail? Well getting up and uh getting my own coffee after I wake up Oh thats so much work On show days Miss Mickey always takes good care of me You know I get uh I get my pancakes I did make them today I made them myself You made pancakes for yourself For myself yeah

01:06 Yeah, of course. It's the lucky pancakes! But we're in the middle of moving so I got boxes everywhere... The house is half empty. So this is the end of the rig? Well no, the rig is still standing that-the new rig is so incredibly small that I can just use that but you know now we just have to make sure The internet is set up on the other side. I think so, Tuesday when we're completely over? Done? When are you... Did the repeater ever come back on by the way in the ham network? Yes John! The repeater came back on. I even texted you that repeater came back on and foolishly enough

01:48 I called you several times on the 14 Charlie. Oh, yeah no I put it...I turned off the thing No at one point you keyed up You keyed up because i saw it happen That was when it was down! No you keyed up and it came through oh I don't know about that that may not be true or maybe me because I was...oh its possible What you know? Being alone here for the past few days miss Mickey was in Mexico with her her godchild enjoying sun and surf Why do you make this sound like it's some big huge hooker party here or something? No. You know, I receive so many emails from people who are...who go back to the beginning to episode one and listen to every single episode of this show. Why would anyone see this is...this sounds to me like someone just feels like torturing themselves. Well is there something important about this show that I'm missing?

02:53 There's something we're doing that is striking a chord with people one way or the other. Yeah, but it really doesn't begin until show 100 Well yeah true But I guess people just want the genesis of how we got to show 100 well hope they make sure... And Show 100 actually was an important show! I remember where i was on Show 100 Yeah you were in The Dumps and you were at A Downer We had a conversation about quitting the show At show 100. I remember this yeah, you wanted to quit the show and i'd urged us to go on and fight the good fight That's right Yeah, I think it went something. I don't think it went quite like that. I didn't hear you go fight the good fight

03:36 I think it was, don't be such a pussy. Something like that. Well that was probably what you said. Don't be such a pussy man! I think we've done enough... Let me do you. We've done 100 shows and I think we touched on all the topics we need to touch on. This is bullcrap. No no, I had left my wife, it was, I was confused, y'know? And I was in love but everything was nutty And then there was something had happened, I can't recall what it was exactly. And it made us question everything! Don't you remember? There was something that went down... Well, I think we were questioning stuff pretty early on not to the extent that we are now where just like... Pretty much everything- We finally figured it out! Yeah! Everything- All the crap Hey, well, y'know um... We missed of course we didn't have a show on the 11th but we missed World Population Day

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

World Population Day, Ban Ki-moon, ICPD Birth Control

The hosts critique World Population Day and a memo sent by John Kerry on behalf of President Barack Obama. They analyze statements from UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon regarding youth unemployment and dead-end jobs in developing countries. The discussion characterizes the International Conference on Population and Development (ICPD) as a vehicle for global birth control and population management.

world population day· ban ki-moon· barack obama· john kerry· icpd

04:37 Oh, the old global warming scare. Well this is very interesting... Yes! And the president actually did send out a little memo on Saturday. Um oh wait was this? It was no it's someone on behalf of President Obama hold on a second. Yeah he can't mix his business Who speaks on behalf of President? Oh Kerry of course on behalf of President Obama and the people of the United States. Does he get to speak on behalf of us? Is that his... does he have that mantra?" Yeah, He's representing you and me I joined the world in making World Population Day on July 11th And celebrating the 20th anniversary Of The International Conference On Population & Development Well you understand That i immediately went To go look at this outfit This intern- Right another scam Taking away money from dummies Well.. And this is a Bunky Moon Outfit

05:28 He needs to do something after he quits. Listen to what he says. I won't do his accent because it's impossible to understand. Action is urgently needed! No, no, no... No, don't do it. You sound like a German Japanese concentration camp guy Action is urgently needed Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said in his message for the day stressing that too many young people are denied a right to a quality education A decent job and participation in the political life of their societies Now he actually said something like these kids are in dead end jobs It was really weird

06:09 for him to say that. You mean the guys pounding bugs on a stone in southern Africa? That's a dead-end job, you think? Half the world is under 25 years of age he said nearly 90% of them in developing countries however half of those employed from the group are either unemployed or stuck in low wage dead end jobs Thanks Moon... Bonkey That's really and what is he what's his proposal here because the Chinese it unless you move to China You're not gonna get a job or well the whole idea of The the ICP I think was that they icpd yeah, the International conference on population development is birth control. That's the whole thing Yeah And and also life control. I think we need to kill some people there's too many people

07:00 Yeah, they haven't really given up on the too many people problem. I think even though there's lots of documentation showing that it's very sustainable for another few billion...I mean the problem is distribution that's what it is you got people with surpluses on one side of the globe and people with nothing on the other and you can't get them anything because the distribution network is not set up properly. Ah trains! Trains, we need more trains. That's the key I was so i've been working on the stream you know We've had a shift in the no agenda stream and uh So now we're airing all kinds of different shows instead of music actually found one of your old interludes I put one of those back on people love that music to cruise to in your 1992 lexus And I was and I was listening to

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Schlock Parties, Dutch Culture, Personal Sentimentalism

Adam Curry recounts a family tradition of "schlock parties" held in the Netherlands, where guests would exchange random junk or prized possessions. He explains the definition of schlock to the audience as figurines, snow globes, or low-quality movies. The conversation shifts briefly to Curry's sentimental mood while being home alone during his house move.

schlock· netherlands· collectibles· family traditions· nostalgia

07:45 633 and you said a word which I Know this word, and it was very often used in my family In fact we had parties around this word But I don't know if anyone caught it you use the word schlock schlock yeah lock And that's such a great party My parents used to have schlock parties and the idea was there wasn't a block partying your no like stone pot No now as a young kid And it was interesting because they did this in the Netherlands, and so they had to explain to the Dutch what schlock was. Which to a lot of Dutch is that prized possession on the mantelpiece... They're like, What? This is schlock?! This is very nice! So you'd have to bring a piece of schlock and you would be guaranteed to go home with a piece of schlock

08:32 Which is kind of cool you get your own schlock home with you? You know, you get someone else's schlock to take home with you explain Schlock. I don't think people know Around the good money. She's a random junk that somebody might think is a prized possession Yeah It's like a classic that would be a classic definition yeah like a figurine or could be a snow globe of something it could Be a lousy movie Could move you can be sure like a movie was schlock could be the show Dog show would be a schlock this show number six whatever it was number 630 was a schlocker schlocker Yeah, no schlockers real but okay. You could use it okay so anyway That wasn't that was a nice little side note well I was going to say that I'm very happy that we're that were Enabled to do this type of show

09:26 Which really was so nice to... So you're left home alone and you start getting sentimental on me? No, a little bit. And that's because I went down a couple of avenues and went really really deep on stuff Oh yeah? Mm-hmm Do you want to go right over there or do you want to get some my stuff out of the way? Why don't you get us started for a second And oh before we start remember our mantra. I'm a rule follower So if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it just everybody remember be your rule follower I love that woman I Got some rules for you be a rule follower So I'm watching well there's a couple of things okay? I'll just start off with the humorous piece all right It's a little long overall but as well worth it This is an epic fail that took place on CNN with Don Lemon

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Don Lemon, CNN, Cultural Appropriation Debate

The hosts review a CNN segment hosted by Don Lemon featuring a debate over an op-ed titled "Dear White Gays: Stop Stealing Black Female Culture." They mock the technical failures of the broadcast, including a guest who had not read the opposing piece and another guest with audio issues. The segment is dismissed as an "epic fail" in cable news journalism.

don lemon· cnn· sierra manny· h allen scott· cultural appropriation

10:22 This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. First of all, do you have a tease? We'll do the tease first. I have a tease! There's a tease this is done going to break and then now I'm gonna tell you what happened. An op-ed column is getting a ton of backlash The title says it all quote dear white gays stop stealing black female culture Gonna speak live with a student who wrote it plus the guy who was challenging her and I've got my take on this as well Well now that got my attention Yeah, this is dinner cuz it was Jay's birthday. This can't end well for our buddy Don I have a bad Bad feeling to go out to dinner so I just put it on record and saw Eric and actually Eric's down here The shill and as so we watched who watched this together because I didn't I was bought was on pins and needles I was waiting with hope of the dinner would be over so I could get home no way So the setup again? Let's just understand what were what you were expecting when you came home

11:18 I'm expecting to see somebody who wrote this nasty essay about white gays, a white gay guy who's gonna defend something he said and a big fight with Don Lemon, a gay in the middle of a catfight. And in this corner... And here is what we get instead So this one of those things that you let say you don't really know a lot about gay culture You should watch it so you're going learn a lot here Wait hold on why didn't you call me? It was recorded. It was pre-recorded by Guy Holt. When you hear someone say, we're going to learn about gay culture... Hello! That's like call Adam. Call me on the DSTAR. A senior at the University of Mississippi has a message for the white gay men out there who she says are acting like black women She says stop stealing black female culture that's actually the title of her opinion piece that Time Magazine published on his website and she has gotten quite

12:19 the reaction online really. So many people are tweeting her about this. Now here's some of what Sierra Manning says in her piece, she said quote you are not a black woman and you do not get to claim either blackness or womanhood the difference is that the black women with whom you think you align so well whose language you use and stereotypical mannerisms you adopt cannot hide their blackness in womanhood to protect themselves the way that you can hide your homosexuality Whatever. Of the gay white men who disagree with her, at least one of them decided to fire back a response. And yes thank you for calling Don I'm Adam and by curious white male. Each Alan Scott wrote this recognizing the things that she thinks belongs only to black women is the very thing that causes separation and hate in our society there's a reason why this country is called a melting pot because eventually once you lose a BS separation start appreciating what makes us all amazing you start realizing that

13:17 Wow, we're not all that different after all. I'm gonna bring both of those riders in now H Allen Scott is in Los Angeles Sierra Manny is an Oxford Mississippi. I'm in the middle Wait a minute Do we have a try box or a quad box here? Is it just a tribe on the mill and the two are on either side away Here we go. Wait a minute. Wait roll So do we have a white gay guy on one side black gay guy on the other side woman black woman Not gay. And then Don Lemon in the middle, alright everybody let's do it! I'm gonna start with Ciara so what your response to what Alan wrote? I actually did not read what Alan wrote because...I did not see it

14:01 Okay, you didn't read what Allen wrote. Alright so then how are you going to defend yourself? I'm gonna have to tell you what he said You heard what he said about that I just read He said we're all more the same than we are different and we should stop the separation and pointing it out And that would make us a better... We're melting pot Well if you read my article closely you see that I say things very similar to that near the bottom of the piece that although we are not the same, we are equal and that is not an attempt of mine at all to say you cannot enjoy music that was created by black people. That's not to say that you can't enjoy things that you like

14:42 And there's a very thick line between appropriation and appreciation of the things that maybe some people perceive. Okay, what? Okay, HLN she does have a she does make it very good point and I thought that the crux of her article when she said but here's the shade She says the non-black people who get to enjoy all of the fun things about blackness will never have to experience the ugliness of the black experience systematic racism and the dangers of simply living while black That's a very cogent point that she is making did you understand that I can't hear him Okay, if he can here there was no point in doing this so we'll do a break and we'll come back And we'll talk about this. We'll be right back don't go anywhere

15:28 They never went back to it of course. No, of course not and there's a producer who was fired for sure Oh yeah she didn't read the piece that he wrote that she was supposed to that's why I said why not? And she didn't read the piece She didn't care and this other guy wasn't miked so there's... That's three minutes of my life I'll never get back again, thank you. Well i watched it and then they had to edit it out but six nine minutes of my life. All right let me slide into some more racial crap then while we're at it So did you want me to call you the next time something like this comes so you can witness this in real time? No! Go on no go on

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Hobby Lobby Ruling, Nancy Pelosi, Supreme Court Criticism

The discussion focuses on Democratic reactions to the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby ruling, specifically criticizing comments by Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. The hosts argue that the rhetoric regarding "five white guys" on the court is racist and sexist. They specifically mock Pelosi's verbal slips and her misunderstanding of the specific contraceptives involved in the legal case.

hobby lobby· supreme court· chuck schumer· nancy pelosi· religious freedom

16:08 Yeah, the Supreme Court decision on Hobby Lobby does not sit at all well with the leading Democrats in the United States of Gitmo Nation. Of course you know whenever they rule in favor of something then they're great but now it's what we heard on Thursday is five white guys! Those five white guys? So this continues this five-white guy thing And it's disappointing. It's very racist! Well, of course it is racist and its 100% racist but for some reason that doesn't count if you say white guys just as racist its sexist

16:46 And the whole idea here is vote for Democrats. And it's disrespectful! Vote, yeah...vote for Democrats in 2014 midterm so we can elect better Supreme Court justices and I guess we should have all black women because that would be the opposite of all white men And it's just, it is. It's incredibly racist and well here I'm going to play the Chuck Schumer first now he's not typically a racist he's just a dickhead and so we know that the ruling of this Hobby Lobby ruling was based 100% on the definition of U.S persons which throughout law

17:32 is corporations and he's now going to start to, and he's lying. He's completely lying. He's going to separate the issue out by saying corporations Which is also not true because non-profit corporations are allowed to use the religious refusal based on religious rights. But he's just going to make it sound like corporations in general and he's really saying corporations are not US persons which is not how the law was written but he's setting the agenda for you and he's lying 100% that they should be able to exercise their religious beliefs without interference from the government

18:14 The court took that and applied it, misapplied it to for-profit companies who exist for the purpose of benefiting from the open market working in the marketplace under our laws. Now think of the difference you're born with a religion or you adopt a religion You have to obey the precepts of that religion and the government gives you a wide penumbra. You don't have to form a corporation We wouldn't tell the owners of Hobby Lobby to convert to a different religion or disobey their religion. But we don't say that they have to open up a company and go sell toys, or hobby kits." He doesn't even know what they sell! Right? He thinks it's a toy store. I think so...I don't know what they exactly sell. "...but the court took the protection and misapplied it without a doubt

19:11 The Religious Freedom Restoration Act was written to apply only to individuals, not corporations. Yeah except no one had a problem with it being applied to non-profit corporations so that's just setting an agenda and the agenda is elect Democrats and now we have if you really want to know how messed up this is here is Pelosi Now Pelosi needs to go there's at a certain point How old is she? I don't want to be ageist. 72. That's not that old, but she's gone! She has one too many facelifts and she's a dummy. I have no problem with facelifts and the boob job i think is pretty amazing. Well, I'm not saying... well, she had the facelift but she also Botoxed up

19:59 I don't have a problem with any of that. I do have a problem with Botox stuff. Why? Because studies have shown that if you Botox up your face and you can't express certain emotions, You actually cannot feel those emotions. Ah! You're right. We've discussed this on the show and i will agree with you But this is not emotions She's not even using English words at this point Listen to this. We should be afraid of this court! We should be afraid of this court? We should be afraid of it? You coming over to get us? Well, because it's five white guys listen up boy! We should be afraid that five guys should start determining what contraceptions are... Okay This is not English That five guys should determine what contraceptions women can use

20:49 What is there? I don't think the contraception's is proper in this form, in this. Probably not play the clip really we should be afraid of this court that five guys should start determining what contraceptions are legal or not. Let's not even go to that part. It is so stunning and then of course this is more like the Wheaton decision a few days later which was also problematic But you know that court decision was a frightening one. That five men should get down to the specifics of whether or not woman should use a diaphragm and she should pay for herself or her boss." Now, this was never the case! It had nothing to do with diaphragms. By the way, she's 74 not 72 I was wrong So this was about four

21:41 I know it's got nothing to do with anything. I know what she is talking about She is insane, this is the problem with these people So she said get rid of the white men The white men determine if they can have a diaphragm It's not her boss' business His business is whatever his business is But its not what contraception she uses so... The court decision is We're all taken aback by it. Yeah, these guys are horrible this is like the worst kind of propaganda and they just... But it's racist! No one calls them that! It's racist, it's sexist, it's bullshit and these people just stick a mic in them and they just run these clips

22:21 They don't say, you know... I think you're misinterpreting. They won't even talk to him. Nobody even talks there's no discussion here." But this is her she has a like Carrie, you know? Like everybody she has her weekly little thing She has her it may be more than weekly and she does a whole press thing and everyone shows up And then she just spouts this kind of drivel very very strange now we have Just shifting gears for a moment We have No, screw it. I'm not gonna do that now. We'll do that later. Oh please! What is it? No no no no no no... Okay you're editing down to the point where- No no no no no. I will do it later It's just a little too early for it. Okay Alright. I got nothing on this topic. No, no, no I have nothing either. I kind of should've circled around You've been promising drilldown here. I'm gonna get to it. I'm just leading into it and getting ready for it

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Israel-Palestine Conflict, Iron Dome, USAID Funding

The hosts examine media coverage of the Gaza conflict, highlighting a CNN clip of a Palestinian baker claiming a flour shortage while standing in front of bags of flour. They share "boots on the ground" reports from listeners in Tel Aviv regarding the effectiveness of the Iron Dome missile defense system. The segment notes that U.S. aid to Israel often functions as a "gift card" for American defense contractors like Raytheon.

gaza· israel· hamas· iron dome· raytheon

23:15 So I'm watching, again watching just you know various reports from this and that. The Palestinian thing which i'll talk about a little later had this one clip and every once in awhile people say well you know guys should do video we can't do video we're not gonna do videos it's never going to happen but once in a while you see a clip then you just say oh my god I just wish we could do video because I want to play this clip now describe to you what this guy is doing. This play Palestinian baker. Demand is currently so high that the bread maker cannot guarantee that he will be able to keep up for very long, he says that he will soon run out of almost everything

24:03 Of course we're scared. The situation is quickly getting worse, there's no fuel, no flour nothing All the electricity here is from generators when that's over will have to close it's very very bad He is standing in front of what appears to be a mountain of bags of flour Okay, as he says if you played it again. Yeah, there's no flower What channel was this on CNN oh? It may have been Beth Van Cat I'm not sure but it was just this guy said I'm telling there is more flour than I've ever seen Bags and sacks and sacks of there's no flower left they're killing us these guys okay So we are now at this point where

24:56 We we've got a lot of feedback boots on the ground On all sides about this Israel Palestine kerfuffle And and it's very interesting. It's um, it's very diverse really in the responses Have you seen any of these emails John do you get a hold some of these that can't even get too many? You've got most of them most of them say hey Adam and John they just send it to me so here's So we asked specifically for some boots on the ground reports. Bart, Dutch guy living in Tel Aviv I'm not Jewish but my wife is from here Sitting here in the middle of this mess I can provide you with some opinions on the subject Israel versus Hamas raised in your previous episode Iron Dome This is one of things that we've been questioning

25:48 Actually only used to protect the bigger cities like Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Haifa. It's expensive to use so not worth it on the little shitty towns close to the Gaza border That's why they get hit by dozens of rockets a day success rate at the Iron Dome this is pretty consistent People say is getting better each day It's now reaching 90% and what they I guess what they...the way it works is Hamas launches these rockets which as Bart says he's kind of like you know a really big firecracker But it's made of an iron tube with lead and you know if this thing falls on your head or your house or your car It isn't going to hurt, but it's not really like a huge explosive So these things are being shot towards open spaces Or where won't hit anything then Iron Dome doesn't come into effect

26:36 pretty universal across the board. People are saying that they also really don't even know what this is about, and some say oh it's just every year and a half to two years it comes back again... Oh by the way the USAID Israel, this comes from Aaron Just so you know the three, I guess Israel built the Iron Dome. I thought we built it? I think is our technology. I think its their technology We had a long discussion about this about 50 shows ago. Sorry sorry It's not that important. Well it is to me

27:15 What he points out is the $3 billion that we... Everyone says, oh! We're giving three billion dollars to Israel. He says really it's a- he puts it here as It's a 3 billion dollar gift card to spend at Raytheon. It just..it's really just doing around robin to the US defense industry which makes sense because that's kind of the only Industry that we have. That's what we do So there's a way for the government to you know to pay for people to eat here in America Then we just have, and I put all of these into the show notes. Sir Grebulon reporting in... It's you know no one has a real definitive opinion on what you know if this really was started because of kidnapped teenagers etc Killed teenagers it just seems like more of the same except for one general overarching theme that was sent to me I would say a ratio of 10 to 1

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Albert Pike, Cecil Rhodes, New World Order Conspiracy

Adam Curry explores the "Palladian Rite" and a purported 1871 letter from Albert Pike predicting three world wars to establish a New World Order. John C. Dvorak expresses skepticism, pointing out anachronisms like the word "fascist" appearing before its historical coinage. They transition to discussing Cecil Rhodes' will and his vision for a secret society to extend British rule and eliminate national sovereignty.

albert pike· cecil rhodes· hg wells· new world order· palladian rite

28:15 over people with boots on the ground reports, and that is what I've always understood to be as a real conspiracy theory. But I went way deep on this one something known as the Palladian Rite Are you familiar with this? No, I don't and I'm waiting to hear about it! The Palladian Rite which really came into worldview thanks to a certain Albert Pike Albert Pike, now this he goes back to like 1870s and he apparently there was a letter from him that was... now you can't find any of this really if it's ever really happened, was briefly displayed in the British Museum Library in London. And he spoke about the Palladian Rite in which there would be three world wars and three attempts to create the New World Order This is where a lot of this comes from I had never heard or I'd never really looked into this very deeply but you'll see it goes back to some interesting people

29:17 So the idea was, the first world war was to bring the Bolsheviks into line. The second world war we were supposed to get the Nazis and then introduce socialism and communism... And the third World War would be the Middle East, it would be complete rubbilization of the Jews and the Arabs and the Arabs in the Arabs and the Arabs in the Sunnis and Shias and everybody until at- The whole world would be that part of the world is supposed to be completely annihilated, rubbilized. And the whole world was so tired of all this that we then succumbed to the idea of a one world government which is socialist at best Marxist probably more likely

30:04 Alright, well answer me this. I'm...I got a lot more but okay Well i mean if you're gonna start throwing all the stuff out and I don't want to go back to it as you go on What was this World War One get to do with the Bolsheviks which what I think is that World War One created the moment that you could have the Communist Revolution and the Bolshevists could take over Russia. What does that have to do with the Russian, by unifying the Russians under that government? I don't see how that's part of any master plan." Let me read to you verbatim, that might help a little bit my explanation may be not...my abbreviation, abbreviated version may not be that good The First World War was to be fought so as to enable the powers of this, or overthrow the powers of the czars in Russia and turn that country into the stronghold of atheistic communism

30:58 then communism was to be built up and used to destroy governments and weaken religions. Then we have World War II, which was to foment the differences between fascists and political Zionist. This is from Albert Pike's writing And he sent a lot of his writings information to a certain Colonel House who eventually got United States involved in these world wars now was when you read about this, there's two more steps back and eventually it all comes down to one guy Cecil Rhodes. But in between there... There's HG Wells And HG Wells he kind of picked up where Albert Pike left off and I've heard a lot about Wells but i've never really looked into his background because so many people quote him like he was some philosopher basically the guy is just a science fiction writer or the way that I see it

31:57 So was L. Ron Hubbard." Okay, good point! But a lot of people would hang out with him and would listen to what he had to say and... Of course he wrote War of the Worlds which showed along with Orson Welles showed how easily the public could be convinced of these things which is a famous episode you know the famous radio broadcast of War of the Worlds And then when you delve a little bit deeper into into Wells you see that he really is building on, and this is the Mac Daddy, Cecil Rhodes.

32:36 The founder of Rhodesia, if I'm not mistaken. The founder of Rhodesia! So I knew the founder of Rhodesia part...I knew that but I never really...and of course the Rhodes scholarship That's pretty much all you know right? But this guy he was at one point I think one of the richest people in the world Of course, South Africa. I guess he became the chairman of the De Beers Mining Company but in his memoirs and he often spoke about putting together a secret society and this secret society would be essentially you know Freemasons and the Skull & Bones and he always wished that he would have some kind

33:23 He wrote often of some form of message that he could put out there so that they would know something was going on, something was up. Which to me is immediately thinking 33. But at his death one the wealthiest men in the world, his will was unveiled and the exact wording from his will was that he wished to and for the establishment, promotion and development of a secret society. The true aim an object whereof shall be for the extension of British rule throughout the world." He was complete... Britain has to rule everything and it'll use America to do it

34:00 the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom and of colonization by British subjects, of all lands where the means of livelihood are attainable by energy labor enterprise and especially the occupation by British settlers. Of the entire continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of the Euphrates, the island of Cyprus in Canada, the whole of South America, the islands of the Pacific not here heretofore possessed by Great Britain, and the whole of the Malay archipelago the seaboard of China and Japan, the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire. And I believe this is where our special relationship comes from. Russ Baker who we like a lot he wrote The Family Secrets

34:45 Right. And he has an excellent book and he's a good journalist so but he's writing about He has this article of 2013 about Cecil Rhodes, and then you know oh gee we all turns out that his great grandson or his grandson also Rhodes comes out of nowhere to become President Obama's foreign policy speech writer until and and really opens up quite an interesting history to how Cecil Rhodes really is the architect of this whole New World Order idea. And that's what the secret society, the skull and bones is all supposed to be about... ...and it comes back consistently in modern day politics such as The Red Line This is actually where President Obama said we've got a red line?

35:31 that comes from Rhodes. And he always spoke about wanting British dominions denoted in red lines, which is how they drew it on the map. So all of this stuff... everything comes back to Rhodes and whenever you have the Rhodes scholars it's always portrayed as the brightest and the best but it's not! Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar so we know it's not the smartest people in the world I'm going to stop you here before you just bring something up. Okay, Albert Pike's letter to Mazini dated August 15th 1871 Yeah first world war must be brought about order to permit the Illuminati overthrow the power of the czars in Russia and blah blah He goes on about that. Yeah okay we can maybe think that there was

36:18 Okay, well I'll just buy into that. Second paragraph or whatever it is... The second world war must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the fascists and the political Zionist. This is 1871. The word fascist does not exist before 1903 how did he write this? I'm I think it's a concoction. It could be, I'm just telling you this is what I wound up with and when I When i'm coming up to Russ Baker writing about this stuff not specifically about that letter And yes, I've seen at you specifically Like he predicted these wars and all Believe me. I'm not that gullible but you can't deny that the roads

37:02 meme has been around for a long time and it has not quit, and a lot of modern-day politics seem to be based on it. And the idea if you follow through the idea of a third world war rubbleizing all of the Middle East which this is where I'm coming from I do see some of this playing out and eventually everyone wanting to move towards a complete Marxist slash socialist system...I see nothing but evidence of that! We have complete cultural Marxism, you know no bullying. You know inequality we have in the United States who have minimum wage The main thing for these guys for the Rhodesians for the Rhodes scholars as it is written is to remove sovereignty The one thing that Rhodes thought need to be removed from every

37:56 country, every continent on the planet and should of course become the British Empire was sovereignty. And that's exactly what is happening in Europe! The sovereignty of nations is being taken away Yes, and if as a man I'm going to let you go on this before I complain more but... And I'm only gonna say well I'm not gonna even do that criticism. But the sovereignty thing is interesting because you'll talk to a lot of people from Europe now that are French and you ask them where they're from they often will say Europe Oh yeah, there's a lot of pro- Not all of them but a lot of them. No there is a lot of pro-Europeanism and I have two clips to kind of accentuate what i'm talking about It's easy enough to show what's going on in the United States of Gitmo Nation with very obvious you know anti bullying laws it's very obvious attack on first amendment don't have to talk about second amendment we've got people saying I'm a rule follower please

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Eurocorps, European Union Symbols, Official Sashes

The hosts discuss the militarization of the European Union, highlighting a ceremony in Strasbourg involving Eurocorps and the EU flag. They listen to head of protocol François Brunagel explain the history of EU symbols like the anthem and the Euro. Dvorak and Curry are particularly fascinated by the official sashes worn by Members of the European Parliament (MEPs), which are available for purchase online.

eurocorps· european union· strasbourg· françois brunagel· mep sash

38:52 I mean, that kind of proves how far we've come. I'm a rule follower so if... Very poignant. I'd say the rule following clip which you should play again is extremely poignant. I'm going to play it right now? Yeah, play it. So we just remember... I'm a rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it. Now besides someone actually said this its being propagated on the telescreen thats the big part now im gonna play this little clip This is from last week in the EU. I believe this was in Strasbourg You tell me what this sounds like Any idea? Sounds like some, I don't know it's just some marching group This is members of Eurocorps

39:54 which is the European army, we would never see raising the European flag in a military ceremony. Wow! I mean this is... it was really... I had Europeans send this to me saying oh I'm sick to my stomach The Eurocorps C-O-R-P-S, Eurocorps in a military ceremony saluting saluting EU flag And this comes on the same day that we have this statement from François Brunagel, head of protocol at the European Parliament.

40:36 And we're going to talk about, we're gonna listen to a true European technocrat removing sovereignty from all of these individual countries and how we have turned this into the EU and what we have that goes along with that. I'm curious as a French person, as a European, what's the situation with these symbols? There is a flag An anthem, but what for? We have this anthem that no one sings. We have this flag that flies but it's not clear what its stands for." This is a question from the audience for the head of protocol. So what good are these symbols if we don't use them?" You must know that immediately after the election of the European Parliament in 1979 – the parliament which represents the people of Europe

41:20 They wanted it to have symbols, like all states have symbols. In other words a flag and an anthem There was a prolonged debate and finally in 1986 they decided to adopt not the new flag but the flag that had been created in the early 1950's by the Council of Europe Because there are not two Europes, just one single and equal Europe at various stages of integration. And then later they adopted the European anthem i.e., the last movement of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony Ode to Joy Then there are other symbols which were subsequently adopted notably a currency for Europe united in diversity

41:59 which was adopted in 2001 and I think that with that the citizen has something to recognize through these symbols. We have the European passport, and for those who are fortunate enough to have it also the Euro. On 9th May in Strasbourg the European Parliament will celebrate 25th anniversary of adoption of flag and anthem first by raising the flag of European colors in presence of EUROCORPS, the multinational army of Europe then a concert during which the European Anthem will be played So there we have it. We have the flag, we have the money, we have the slogan, we have the Beethoven tune... By the way members of the UKIP party turn their back because it's played every morning in Parliament they play the anthem and everyone stands And now the members of European Parliament have been encouraged by the Office of Protocol to wear the official sash

42:56 the European Parliament when they are in parliament. And this is one of those, uh... like royals he have John? Yeah! This is great The Azure European sash emblazoned with the 12 stars of the EU flag Can we get one?! No you have to be an MEP although there is a store You can buy one A circle of twelve golden mullets I'm gonna start wearing it when we do the show Let me see what the um if you look for If you google... You just said there's a European mullet? It's the 12 golden mullets which are for the 12 star. You gotta see this thing, you have to Google European Parliament sash

43:42 And it's blue, it has gold little tapered thingies. And you wear that over your shoulder like a sword holder. Scabbard! And this is your politicians in Europe So I want one of these. I think we should go to San Francisco We should be off with this. We should be giving these away to our Knights This is my god fabulous. This is really beautiful now why don't watching this ceremony?

44:18 With the people in, the politicians in their sashes. With Eurocorps... Remember? Everyone was so worried we don't want a European army! Well Eurocorps is the European Army you have it You voted for because you are represented citizens apparently I see. The price is 107 pounds at EPSASH dot EU Yes, yes handsome looking aren't they? EPSASH dot EU As i'm looking at this uh At this ceremony going on I see banners everywhere in all of the different languages and it's three words act react impact act react impact This is

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

EU Marketing, Hegelian Dialectic, Act React Impact

An analysis of the European Parliament's "Act, React, Impact" promotional campaign leads to a discussion on the Hegelian dialectic of "problem, reaction, solution." The hosts mock the dichotomies presented in EU advertisements, such as "think big, think small." They characterize the EU's centralized governance as a "bloodless coup" against the sovereignty of member nations.

european parliament· hegelian dialectic· marketing· propaganda· slogans

45:05 the slogan for the European Parliament. And it immediately reminded me of something, but I first want to play their little promo from their EU page about act react and impact It is...and this is one of those moments where video would be helpful But the audio was creepy enough Begin End Win Lose Hold on Move on Think global

45:48 Think local. Dream. Wake up. Agree. Disagree. Think big, think small. Change. Never change. Love. Hate. Forgive. Never forget. Look back. Look ahead

46:31 We all face many choices and many issues. We all have our own views, but in Europe every opinion gets a fair chance The decisions of the European Parliament are driven by everything that matters to you You have the power to decide. The European Parliament Act React Impact So when I read these words act react impact? I immediately think of the Hegelian dialect or dialectic i should say

47:07 You familiar with this? The Hegelian dialectic. I know, i'm familiar with Hegel. Yes so Hegel... yes wow there you go. Hegel said problem reaction solution Which is exactly how the slaves are controlled. So you create a problem, you have the reaction and you hand the ready-made solution and everybody's happy And this happens over and over again This is how we are controlled When the EU has act react impact that comes really close That comes really close to just being a... But do they explain what this is supposed to mean in their world? No, no. They just keep saying it over and over again? And you heard all the dichotomies war peace love hate win lose Yeah I know and then there was also think- I thought the big one for me was think local think global where normal thing is

48:02 Global, act local. I mean they didn't have act global act local they left that out but they have just think this think big thing small what is this bull crap? Where did you get that? I got it right from the EU website! They're crazy! You will obey. They must be stopped! And their wearing sashes John They're wearing sashes, they've got an army. They're raising the flag, they're saluting the flag... They've got this problem reaction solution? Does anyone know that this is a bloodless coup?! Well yeah! This is why I bring it up and if you- regardless of if it really was Cecil Rhodes or if it was Albert Pike or whatever... I think I have not concluded that Pike thing is bullshit Really? Yeah Okay

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Millennial Socialism, Common Core, Outcome-Based Education

The hosts discuss a Time Magazine poll suggesting that a majority of millennials favor socialism despite a lack of understanding of the concept. They link Bill Gates' support for Common Core to Karl Marx's theories on outcome-based education and corporate-sponsored charter schools. The segment concludes that modern education is designed to train workers for specific corporate assembly lines rather than fostering independent thought.

millennials· socialism· common core· bill gates· karl marx

48:51 Well, the Rhodes guy he was a troublemaker. But yeah what was he doing in Rhodesia? I mean you should have been doing some well and I don't know maybe one of them Well, it was from he's from South Africa take over the place. Yeah. Well, of course he was running the diamonds. I mean come on These are these nothing has changed is still the richest people in the world running the show Yeah, they don't want people stealing their stuff. Yes but... They put together these schemes to keep everyone go...to keep them caged, keep the animals caged and they won't bite you. Time magazine had an opinion poll then it's published as a article called The Secret Language of Millennials

49:28 And the bottom line is 53% of the Millennials, that's 18... This would include mostly the hipsters by the way. Yes, 18 to 25 I think is born between... It actually it's getting moving up so it's pushing 30 78 percent really like socialism Although a very small percentage can actually just explain what it is, but equality Right to housing all the things that have been pumped into their little brains. Oh yeah No But there's a lot of right we can talk about this any time because I have two of them living in the house Well, I have one living not in the house well You don't get to hear from her as much as I do Karl Marx wrote about outcome based education

50:19 Which is essentially the charter schools that are now being financed by the very companies that are training the people to be on the assembly line. It is an outcome-based Common Core, yes! You talked about it...that you know these lead right to a job with Motorola In Chicago Right from the Charter School which is sponsored by Motorola and this is part of the Communist Manifesto. That's why Bill Gates is behind Common Core to such an extreme So, whether Pike is bullcrap or not? I don't think Pike's even important. I think it's a distraction to what's going on. Could be... Because there just some you know, looks like it was back-engineered to make it fit. To be honest about that, I don't know what the point of this Pike thing is Well the point is he wanted Skypedia, let's just bring in Nostradamus and then... No no no! I didn't bring in Nostradamus

51:11 But the point of Pike is that this would be, the thinking is... I just got a lot of email from people about it. That's why I bring it up and that's why I researched it! The thinking is what is happening now in the Middle East which no one can really explain because they're so tired of it Is whether written and published in a letter once in the British Museum in London or not, I could not find verification of that So that is the weak part of that whole theory In that letter he wrote about the... Not to mention the use of the word fascism in 1871. I'm with you, but this is

51:48 The concept being three world wars and after the third one we would have yet, so we had the League of Nations United Nations. See that Pike thing is bad I don't think it ruins your argument But it's only where I started except for Pike I know this got you started but then you could have cut cut the caboose loose Once you did a little more research on that guy that that's phony that pike thing okay? That is just bullshit Well, H.G Wells and Cecil Rhodes those are the two who have determined a lot of the policy of The Elite who essentially, The Elite i.e rich people just boom boneheads

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

European Royalty, Power Dynamics, Regimental Ties

A discussion on historical paintings in museums leads to a critique of European royalty and the perception that they lack actual political power. The hosts argue that monarchs like the Queen of England retain significant legal authority despite being marketed as tourist attractions. They also discuss social signaling through "regimental ties" and school-specific clothing used by the elite to recognize one another.

royalty· london· museums· class symbols· regimental ties

52:26 It's all inbred. I was talking the other day, I think it was Dave and Melissa who were here. One of the great things about going to museums is you get to see a lot of paintings that were done in the 16th and 1700s especially the 1600s where you had great artists who are required because they needed patronage so they usually worked for one of the kings or royalty especially really great artist And they would paint, I was at some museum recently. They had to paint all the kids!

53:01 And they had to paint the family. They had to have all... and there are some fat turd kids, those moronic looking kids Just look at them! This is the dumbest kid and you have to assume they made them look smarter than they are There was a couple of famous paintings where there's a whole family in this one Moronic little girl that looks like she just looks like she's I don't know what she looks like She just looks like The Idiot Of The Decade They stand in there with this pathetic dress on. It's just that there's a lot of this... I don't even think, I think these people were so stupid that they didn't even notice but there was some moment of ridicule. But here is the weird thing! In many many of these very countries in Europe and I've lived in several of them There are people who are in these countries who have huge houses gated in the middle of the city

53:49 and wear crowns, and medals, and uniforms. And they have golden chariots with horses that draw them around people stand on the sidelines and go, oh hello to the queen or king of the prince! Then have the audacity to say, um no that's just tradition. They don't really have any power Yeah, I know that bothers me too. Actually...I was probably before we started doing this show and you started to point out that they do have power! They've got massive power! They got tons of power That's why they can control that much those purse strings that allow them to live in these great places When the Queen of England goes to Candanavia to approve of the new cabinet What she has to do? And then people say oh, that's just a formality It's cute Bullcrap it's written in the law

54:41 And she can do all kinds of stuff. And she does! Yes, but people have been so brainwashed to not see the idiocy going to the palace... If you think about it makes it even funnier to have all this power and then create this bullcrap that they don't have power Yeah, you've got to be one of the people. I'm just a bag get to wear the crown because I yeah It's just a representatives issues for tourists and and I get to I'm a tourist attraction And yes exactly and I get and that's what they're good at it said that way Oh no The royal family is good people come to London to see the palace Bull crap bull crap I say and now the European Parliament Now they're getting a little closer cuz they will get to wear a sash

55:30 You see, these symbols are very very important and you see someone walking with a sash. And you're like oh... I'm gonna get a sash! I'm telling ya we're getting sashes! If I have the sash i'll wear it to the restaurant. Now which of the waiters defer to me? I think we should make it a fashion statement everybody should have a sash It should be in new fashion thing. It will be a wearable if we call it wearable everyone will want one Yeah, we have to put some electronics in. My sash... Google now can talk to my sash if you call it a wearable It's always it's a winner I'd like to have those sashes or wearables with some electronics and then have it spell stuff out across my chest With the LED

56:17 Listen to the No Agenda show and then it goes off. So I thought it was kind of fun to just go all the way back and look at the connections, and really it is Rhodes and his secret society —and Yale specifically— that really you start to see that there is a group of people They recognize each other by either by family or like the royalty, or by... Or by sash. Or by sash! By associates? There's also the neckties each one that you can go to a store in London that has these. Every private public school which is a private school in our country has regimental ties. Yes absolutely

57:00 and you wear the tie, and people from that school can recognize you. So I bought two or three of them. Like Princeton! Princeton has a ugly orange-ass tie. Yeah it's crappy looking thing but if you want to wear Exeter...I think Exeter is one of the pretty ones, or Cambridge all universities have them so just wearing around town as an American it just confuses them because apparently its not something you should do no but this is sort of violation The sash is a winner now so im just saying Besides our obvious pipeline view on things, which is there's always that angle. I do see a bigger overarching idea which is specifically named as the New World Order, A New Order, A New Organization. Every single president has said it and its always been discussed and it really does involve shutting the slaves up! And I think they're much further than they even realize

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Cultural Asides, Ballroom Dancing, Grocery Store Etiquette

The hosts touch on several cultural grievances, including the introduction of same-sex partners in professional ballroom dancing and the shopping habits of millennials. John C. Dvorak vents about grocery store etiquette, specifically targeting people who use grimy reusable bags, wear large backpacks in aisles, and fail to use card readers efficiently.

ballroom dancing· millennials· organic food· grocery stores· backpacks

57:58 And people are all in. Look at the millennials, oh yeah wage equality... Our packets have to be equal! Now we have the British Dance Society Everyone's up in arms because I follow dance so Mickey and I dance once a week now they want to allow same-sex partners in competition ballroom dancing Yeah, some right. Well I'm all for it except I want at least one of the partners to wear a dress I don't care if what what same sex boring is yeah, it's dance move the dread of the woman in that fabulous dress spinning use the word fabulous In that regard you do is just really spectacular and the guys throwing her around she's spinning But but there's no there's also way with two guys. It's ludicrous well. I saw the 2000 as a video the 2012

58:51 ballroom, same-sex ballroom dancing competition and it is boring. There's nothing twirling with little... the guy someone's got to wear a dress and you can have two women dancing there's this competition for them as well someone's gotta wear suit I don't care it doesn't look right Anyway, so you get that. You can all kind of bull crap is what you're saying Yes All of this stuff minimum wage but you know the rule followers But I have a right to this this self-righteousness Well This is because these kids were raised in an awkward era in the schooling system and the schoolings isn't brainwashed them Yeah So we have a situation with my son who's got a good job working in a high tech company writing JavaScript

59:37 So he says that he's lost all his friends. Oh really? Because none of them work! And they hate him because he's working, making a lot of money Hey douchebag! Hey douchebag you're actually working for the man! What next are you going to be wearing a sash?! So this millennial group is pretty weird and they're all, they're very strange about what they buy. They like to buy organic everything's gotta be organic it says organic. As long as it says organic on the box right? It's got to say organic someplace and again they won't touch anything other than that but they also match up well with a liberal Berkeley type of person who are you know the guys who will be at

1:00:23 Counter dig in for the one penny so they can get the exact change or the people that don't realize that 90% of The there's little card swiping devices. Mm-hmm Once they ring up to first sale, you can now swipe your card and put in all the information So when they're done ringing up your stuff You just push the button and you're out. You don't have to start from scratch when they're done like these people Okay, he's done you got it all and then they swiped their card there at the end, we had to sit around and wait for these idiots to finish. And then they're always looking down or lifting their glasses dropping their glasses back down lifting their glasses punching no cashback lifting their glass... No cashback!

1:01:05 And then just an hour goes I hate those people who don't get cash back. Yeah, yeah I'd say that they ask if you want cash back What do you want cash back for us? Why are using the card so anyway meanwhile there then they Then they have to got everything is held up because of this and then they have to pack their their bags in these Grimy old trader Joe's bags that looked like the dog slept in them and their stuff in his vegetables and fruits and those Dirty bags and then off they go with their backpack. There's another thing So people are sitting around there you go there and they got a backpack on in this store Why? And-and they're bumping, if they move left They move right it's like a guy with a big A big long log or something knocking everybody over knocking vegetables off the shelf with a backpack Why are people wearing these backpacks so they are hiking into the mountains? And-and they've got a backpack and then they have the kid pack in the front

1:01:58 Well, that's for balance. Wow, John! I didn't know you were really so mad about this? Oh yeah. Is there anything else you want to get- I can barely really... That's why I stay in the house most of the time. I go out and see this and just going, You idiot! When was that?! Swipe your card! Well, we should actually just do it. And in the morning to our artists, thank you very much 20 watt bulb for the artwork for episode 633. You wanted to say something about the art John I did? I wrote it down that you were going to say something to the artists Oh yeah i want to thank you artist are doing all the hard work No I think its... I forgot what I was gonna say Guidelines? I don't know. No I dont think so This is why we should never talk

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Producer Credits, Executive Producer Donations, Karma

The hosts read and acknowledge high-value donations from the "No Agenda" community, including contributions from Grand Duke David Foley and Associate Executive Producer Jason Wall. They discuss the "six-week cycle" analysis and the show's track record for predicting FBI-foiled terror plots. Donors are granted titles and "karma" in exchange for their financial support of the value-for-value model.

donations· knighthood· grand duke· associate executive producer· karma

1:06:26 Yes, the Grand Duke so Sir David Foley starts us off with 333 33 ITM gentlemen Thank you for your courage and continued analysis not found anywhere else. Please share some of the great no agenda karma absolutely and I had written it down and I promptly forgot about it until last night and He now has his podcast license Which any Duke would need that, I think. It's important. Thank you very much! Sir David Foley Grand Duke

1:07:02 United States a loan check came in the mail from Gordon B Federu fedor Fedory our FED or IW Dorie for Dorie He's in Cary, North Carolina. He has written us in the past but I haven't gotten an email or anything from since 2013 and he's gained 433 33 with no other information with no information Maxwell thin one of our The guy went in the wrong side of the back door, came in through the back door and now he's a knight. He's our backdoor man! But he's a black knight! Nice! You have to put that down because we missed him Sir Inside Job? And it'll be so inside jobs Okay, and then he puts examples 9-11 Club 33 Right on the same kind of cosmic level exactly 9 11 Club 33 burning into the ground

1:07:55 31834. Jason Wall in Regina, Saskatchewan Canada $250 to be associate executive producer and good morning you John and Adam and thank you for your courage Jay Wall here emailing you from the Candanavia city, Candanavian City of Regina, Saskatchewan the city that rhymes with fun I'm happy to say have finally made the transition from boner to donor in support of The Best Podcasts In The Universe I've been listening since episode 505 during the Boston bomber fiasco when a friend of mine introduced me to you and your six-week cycle analysis. Ever since I've watched in awe as time and time again, you call sometimes to the day the next terrorist plot to be foiled by the FBI. I have to say that your Red Book has much better track record for accurate prediction than a certain best or then a certain seed seller I used to listen to. Nostradamus?

1:08:48 Nostradamus Deceit Man. Unfortunately, I now have the distasteful duty of calling out Mr. Kendall and Mr. Robert as douchebags! For listening for years and still allowing me to beat them to the donation segment He wants a original by the way. I think some people would prefer the original to they redo The original bingo boom shaka laka shut up slave to the head combo. He wants an excellent karma Well, I like all but I have so many this is a meme I'll play the original and as the last in a set of three And then he wants shut-up slave to the head You've got Karma, I just love all the remixes

1:09:43 Most requested sound file. People will love it as their ringtone. The bingo from Shakalaka. Okay, Sir Dr Sharky in Jackson Tennessee $202...$200 and 2 cents I'm sorry Dear John C DeVorek and Adam douche named Ben Curry Douche? He doesn't say douche! Oh dude i'm sorry Dude named Ben My human resource is learning to drive. Please give the entire NoGender family some Don't Eat Me Hillary and Karma for protection, feel free to add any other clips you think appropriate that help protect the population in general as usual. You guys have been providing stellar insight and commentary regarding the various major world events that have been planted by the CIA NSA KGB etc., As long as I have you two, I have hope for change!

1:10:36 ITM, thanks for your courage. Dr. Schottky is the Viscount and protector of the Great Smoky Mountains in Tennessee Valley. Alright... alright be careful out there! If you see something say something Eat me Hillary Clinton You've got karma Nice Okay onward As it turns out There are one or two television shows currently in rotation, which I have not seen where there actually are IT guys named Ben. Or Benjamin. It's probably a common name amongst the IT folk. That's all we have for show by the way 634 and i wanted to remind people that we do have a show coming up on Thursday hopefully it will be better

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda PR, Single Mix, Show Memes

Adam Curry mentions the availability of the "No Agenda Single Mix" on iTunes and reminds listeners that show titles and knighthoods are valid credits. They discuss the origin of various show memes, including the "Putin" shout performed by John Fletcher, which was inspired by a reference to the television show Hogan's Heroes.

itunes· podcast license· john fletcher· putin· memes

1:11:30 And that would be Dvorak.org slash NA to help us out. And quick PR mention, the No Agenda single mix that I mentioned two shows ago is now on iTunes You can pick that up link in the show notes under the PR segment These are real credits that we hand out and by the way when you're a knight it's no different than having a knighthood from The Queen and We can have sashes pretty soon And these are accepted wherever credits are valid. And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, when someone wants to know if you really were an executive producer or associate executive producer on the best podcast in the universe have them call me! Or have them call John! Yeah? I will be happy to tell you that it's exactly that way. Now of course we always need people to go out there spread the word and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out

1:12:26 We hit people in the mouth. Murder! Murder! Shut up, slave. We didn't have a Merkel yet. We have a Merkle now. Murder! Oh we have another one too. Satan! That's mine I don't know what you've started John. It all began with the Hogan's Heroes reference but... If it wasn't well now, what's the name of our guy that's doing all the shouting? That is John Fletcher he is such a beautiful shouting voice That is not. It's just he could get work doing that yeah well

1:13:20 Yeah, he's got exposure. Definitely! So it wasn't me actually I came up with the idea...I requested somebody to do a whole you know something of Putin one You said that you were very specific you said had to be like Hogan's heroes where he says Hogan and was supposed to be PUTIN! And he nailed it He nailed it and then it became like, great. I didn't expect to be that good. I just thought was gonna be something that comes and goes but no now its one of our new show memes. Duval Rock! The shouting guy. Yeah. K God! It just never ends. He's my favorite. LIFO! LIFO

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Camel Milk Superfood, Health Claims, Camel Urine

The hosts discuss the emerging trend of camel milk as a "superfood" with purported cures for autism, cancer, and diabetes. They note the irony of MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) being linked to camels while the milk is marketed for health benefits. The segment also briefly mentions reports from India regarding the medicinal use of camel urine.

camel milk· superfood· autism· mers· india

1:14:06 Okay, I love it back to the show yeah So obviously we was again. It was hanging out with Eric and we're watching There was a France 24 thing that they were doing on on fresh camel's milk And I was gonna clip it, and I said this is ridiculous. But Eric started doing some research on fresh caramel milk. Apparently this is the next superfood! Wait a minute... We have to go get it now. Let me read you that this is a list that we've discovered that claims of health benefits. It's supposed to be the healthiest milk as close as the mother's milk they like to drink in the Arab countries and then there's a kicker to this little thing. I'm just going to read the list of things his cures

1:14:52 Cures autism spectrum disorder. No it cures various cancers Mm-hmm it cures diabetes type 1 somehow type one I don't know how that works and type 2 and gestational and gestational AIDS I mean gestational diabetes it also cures AIDS of course yours MERS the Middle Eastern syndrome It's yours coronary heart disease. I thought that I thought the MERS people were getting MERS from kissing their camel Is that how it starts in the first place? I don't know Got a suck the camels tit mm-hmm T not just think we called teet-teet coronary heart disease

1:15:30 tuberculosis and the kicker Crohn's disease, and then there was a little thing he dug up while doing research casually. Some articles point to camel urine as also containing some medical benefits and this is only in India! This is magical! Apparently the Indians who never donate to the show except one guy drink urine. Just reporting just reporting don't attack The Messenger And what's interesting I avoided the story that was circulating for the past two weeks about human semen being a superfood. I'm like, I'm not gonna bring that up on the show and now you have to come up with the camel milk! How could you resist? It was not hard... it's just stupid Oh, that's the point! Stupid! There are so many stupid... it's like this... We're going try the camel milk anyway Here is a really stupid one

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Climate Change, Kidney Stones, California Blackouts

A report linking rising temperatures to an increase in kidney stones is dismissed by the hosts as alarmist propaganda. They compare current green energy warnings in Britain to the 2001 California electricity crisis, which they characterize as an Enron-led scam. They recall how rolling blackouts ended abruptly after Governor Gray Davis was recalled and replaced by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

global warming· kidney stones· enron· gray davis· rolling blackouts

1:16:28 So did you see that kidney stud global warming or climate change is causing? We did this is causing kidney stones. Yeah, and there was it wasn't true research done Of course This is causation It was very easy to say well there's all kinds of things that go along with with climate change data But the daily mean temperature rising shows that in the future In the future according to the models We will see more people with kidney stones." And they go into how horrific it is to pass a kidney stone. And this was taken pretty seriously!

1:17:09 It's a serious report. I mean, who did this report? I remember reading one piece...one guy wrote it and now that shows there should be no debate because the guy was he says now the Republicans can suffer! They're in denial as if they're the only ones are gonna get kidney stones. I mean give me a break drink water. Environmental health perspectives this is part of NIH And it's one of their reports? Global warming. Well, there are a couple things going on in Britain... Let's see unless the green balance improves according to engineers in cahoots with the governmental organizations the Department for Energy and Climate Change that's nice isn't it they have a department energy and climate change DECC

1:18:08 Britain will face blackouts unless the green balance improves. Why? It's just, it's not true! It's just a scam No it is true if you turn off the power But they did to us in California. Oh, okay yeah that's true They screwed us and we've never had blackouts in our lives and then there's some this Enron scam begins So it was essentially a threat? It is what it is Yeah the next thing you know the power goes off oh you know it's gonna be... In fact here's another one this is during this era This is when we had our Gray Davis who was governor of California I remember the whole thing We started with rolling blackouts and said oh shit the power is off

1:18:45 and be off for a couple hours to come back on. And this would go on for weeks and weeks, and then the thing that was on the news people are gonna have to get used to rolling blackouts in California there's no end in sight it will be part of day-to-day life in California blackout! Then of course the scam broke there was a scam it was just an out-and-out scam Gray Davis was recalled and Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor or governor as you like to call himself And then, magically there hasn't been a blackout since. Unless somebody hits the telephone pole with the truck! So what was that all about? And oh, the media was all in. Oh no! We're gonna have blackouts now for the rest of our lives Our children are gonna have to get used to it Well I found something in relation to this That made me...that maybe gave me some pause about the communication and how essentially The messengers have gotten themselves into bind so here's what we have on the table

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Magnetic Field Weakening, Polar Flip, Cosmic Rays

The hosts discuss scientific reports from NASA and NOAA regarding the rapid weakening of Earth's magnetic field in the Western Hemisphere. They explore the possibility of a magnetic pole flip, which occurs roughly every 300,000 years. While the flip may not be harmful to life, the hosts note it could disrupt power grids and communication satellites due to increased exposure to cosmic rays.

magnetic field· nasa· noaa· polar flip· aurora borealis

1:19:46 First we have global warming, so it's AGW. Anthropogenic Global Warming, so man-made which turns to climate change of course We're about to have another polar vortex which is caused by global warming So it gets really cool We have a severe risk of attacks on our power grid Power grids which has never happened other than, well squirrels beat out power grids more than terrorists do. A number of very concerning things and I got this report which comes indirectly via NASA NOAA about the Earth's magnetic field

1:20:30 Once every I don't know like 30. I'm sure it's 33,000 years or some magic number like that the poles flip Yeah put the polarization of the earth a magnetic polarization and And this is not really explained to anyone. I don't think they probably even teach it in school anymore Remember when we were kids? We got a gyroscope we played with it for a long time for hours and hours the gyroscope Do they still give kids gyroscopes to play with? I don't think kids are allowed to have gyroscopes. They're too dangerous! It could hurt them, so you try to swallow it... So imagine you have the knowledge that the Earth's magnetic field

1:21:10 is weakening in places which can lead to all sorts of things such as perhaps a rise in temperature and other issues. And you need to create a story around it, you already have this climate change thing so you cant really communicate that because of these magnetic weakening that's going to cause outages of electronic devices so you have to make up cyber attacks etc. Earth's magnetic field is rapidly weakening, with the biggest decline in strength occurring over the Western Hemisphere. Scientists are not 100 percent sure why the area is weakening at such a fast rate — but the shift is pretty big deal.

1:22:09 There is some good news, though. In areas over the Indian Ocean, the magnetic field has actually strengthened! Scientists believe the weakening might indicate that Earth's magnetic poles are getting ready to flip — which happens once every 300,000 years or so. No evidence shows that the poles flipping has caused any harm to life on Earth but it could affect power grids and communication satellites. Okay, whatever the case is this there was a really good I think in-depth and probably fairly accurate Nova on This phenomenon and it's weakening thing. It's like it fluctuates when it's gonna flip It just goes to get stronger than weaker and they're starting it does and he has pockets of strength that are around it becomes a mess yeah, and it's

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, Corporate Indemnification

Adam Curry analyzes Senate Bill 2588, the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2014, introduced by Dianne Feinstein. He highlights provisions that indemnify private companies for sharing user data with the federal government under the guise of "cyber threat indicators." The hosts warn that this creates a profit center for corporations to spy on customers and share "exfiltrated" information with intelligence agencies.

dianne feinstein· cisa· cybersecurity· indemnification· privacy

1:22:55 You know, and they think that if it just in a pre-flip mode it could get so weak that we'd get the aurora borealis across the whole country. The whole world. But it would also potentially raise temperatures I presume? No... It's just really about the cosmic rays that's the problem. Just those pesky cosmic rays! I had a chance to read Senate Bill 2588 which has been placed on the calendar. by Dianne Feinstein, who is the of course the chair of the Select Committee on Intelligence. This is the bill... this is the cyber what are we calling it? The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act 2014 finally we have something that has written down as a July 10th 2014 and its very telling as to where the United States of Gitmo Nation's going to go in terms

1:23:55 cyber and spying. And I think it's actually a very brilliant move, and i would like to share that with you John. I would like you to share it with me! So this is the short title of the act Cybersecurity Information Sharing after 2014. It applies to the federal entities now what's important about this particular bill uh...is the definitions So they have words in here like appropriate federal entities. The term appropriate federal entities means the following, Department of Commerce, Department of Defense, Department of Energy, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Justice, Department of the Treasury and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence Then they have things like countermeasure

1:24:35 The term countermeasure means an action, device procedure technique or other measure applied to an information system... ...or information that is stored on process by or transiting and information system that prevents or mitigates a known or suspected cybersecurity threat or security vulnerability. That's pretty broad! And then what is an actual threat? The term cyber security threat means an action not protected by the first amendment to the constitution of the United States on or through an information system that may result in an unauthorized effort to adversely impact the security, availability confidentiality, or integrity of an information system. Or information that is stored on process by or transiting and information system so you understand kind of

1:25:28 The depth that they're going to. I would hope somebody would sue all these advertisers who use cookies once this bill is passed Well, it's actually me In well these are the definitions in fact that is exactly the opposite John now I need to give you the definite what oh yeah It's exactly the opposite and I'll tell you how it works then we have the cyber threat indicator This means information that is necessary to indicate, describe or identify and then there's a number of things here like malicious reconnaissance. A method of defeating security. Security vulnerability I'm paraphrasing. A method of causing a user with legitimate access to an information system where information that are stored on blah blah blah blah blah... And here's my favorite one

1:26:13 A cyber threat indicator could be the actual or potential harm, again the actual or potential harm caused by an incident including information exfiltrated when it is necessary in order to describe a cybersecurity threat. So what this means...the way I read it and I'm not a lawyer but I am a law groupie is a cyber threat indicator can include information that has been extracted from an information system, which could be your Gmail. I'll just give you a specific example... That was exfiltrated i.e. extracted because it was necessary to describe an actual cybersecurity threat Would you agree in that analysis of those words John? I mean yeah I guess So what the government is doing and I'm going to skip all the way through It's a lot of menial stuff

1:27:07 So what they are doing is, they have entire terms that indemnify private sector commercial companies. Just private sector companies when they share information with the government so instead of the government spying on you The private companies you do business with or probably take stuff from for free thinking it's a good deal and then they have the right to scan through your email. I'll just give you one example, if they exfiltrate some information that turns out that it might look like there is some cyber security threat in that information they can share it with the government and they are indemnified. Indemnify! They call this the indemnification act

1:27:56 There should be something derogatory of 2014. It shouldn't say indemnification, actually... That's what they should call it sharing of information by the federal government so that the government can share amongst themselves to a great extent and let me find for you the indemnification clause which of course is all the way at Protection from liability. Monitoring of information systems, no cause of action shall lie or be maintained in any court against that any private entity and such actions shall be promptly dismissed for the monitoring of information systems and information under subsection A that is conducted in accordance with this Act. Sharing or receipt of cyber threat indicators, no cause of action shall lie or be maintained at any court against an entity and such actions shall be promptly dismissed for the sharing or receipt of cyber threat indicators or countermeasures under subsection C of section 4 if

1:28:50 such sharing or receipt is conducted in accordance with this act." Which means if you saw something, he said hmm I think i'll check that email out. You can send it and share it with the government and you are indemnified! You are protected from liability Okay, but why would you want to do this? Protect it or not. Well I think that... Why do I-I'm running AT&T's stuff Yeah Why do I want to share anything with the government when i know its gonna even yeah okay im indemnified great but now I got bad publicity my user base thinks Im a stooge, a stoolie, a creep, snooping around their email I don't see people jumping off Gmail even though they know that Google is

1:29:33 is all of these companies are giving information to the government. Now they'll just be completely indemnified and I think somehow maybe this new act that the president signed, let me see if i can find it he signed like the quick pay thing or something where the government promises to pay contractors within 14 calendar days because you're allowed to charge the government for doing this stuff when you share information. Oh so easy as a profit center? Yes! So this is... You're right, sounds like easy money. I'd be turning everybody in Well, but I think you will see a lot of companies doing just that Yeah It's because it's you know as another cash flow business so this is no different and then charge the customer for the effort they put in we charged them to This is pain-in-the-ass This is no different from the pharmaceutical companies receiving complete indemnification for vaccines Right? It's no different No

1:30:34 So yes, this should be called the Private Sector Indemnification Act from Spying on Your Customers of 2014. Yeah that would be a good name for it. But is meant to improve cybersecurity in the United States through enhancing sharing information about cyber security threats and for other purposes This is what they're talking about when they say The Sharing Economy You think its about Uber? No Opt out, people. Opt out of those centralized services it is going to bite you and yeah sure its cyber terrorism today but its gonna be IRS tomorrow and it'll be environmental protection the next day... You watch! We've warned him enough so let's get back to the Palestinian situation So I'm watching Democracy Now

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Democracy Now, Israeli Propaganda, Nora Erekat

The hosts critique a debate on "Democracy Now!" regarding the conflict in Gaza. They analyze the arguments of an Israeli representative and Palestinian scholar Nora Erekat, whom they suspect of being a "plant" due to her perceived weak arguments. They specifically mock Erekat's claim that Israel is the "fourth largest nuclear power in the world."

democracy now· amy goodman· nora erekat· gaza· nuclear power

1:31:31 And there's a debate between...and Democracy Now! and Amy Wine, whatever her name is. Weinstein? Amy Goodman. She is...the show has decidedly... The War and Peace Report. Is she still on the road? I missed it. Yes, she's still on the War and Peace Report at War & Peace Report, whatever it is. So they're decidedly pro-Palestinian, they've always been. And so they got I think snookered because they had a couple of representatives come on to argue what was going on in Gaza and one of them was this Israeli guy who was actually kind of a douchey guy but he had good arguments it seems to me and you can play this clip and then i want to follow up with the second with the follower but with the woman that was on the other side of the argument

1:32:19 And you hear, this is argument on Democracy Now!, Israeli guy. Now the professor also talked about human rights and about international law. Hamas, the internationally recognized terrorist organization controls the Gaza Strip. They are hiding behind civilians while firing at our civilians. Let me remind you that just yesterday the Hamas interior minister—Hamas Interior Ministry They called for their people, for their civilians to act as human shields. Their spokesperson also came out and said come and act as human shields because while we mourn every civilian death on both sides Hamas celebrates civilian deaths I blame Hamas for every civilian death because while we send text messages and phone calls and even put warning shots in the areas where were going to try take out the terrorist infrastructure and particular terrorists

1:33:12 Hamas fire from mosques, they fire from next to houses. They fire from schools. They keep their missiles and their rockets in the basements of houses. This is a double war crime! They are firing at our civilians indiscriminately I mean they fired yesterday towards Jerusalem OK, they're firing at Jerusalem indiscriminately. What would happen if one of these rockets landed in an Arab area in Jerusalem? Or God forbid it hit a holy site of the Muslims! It's indiscriminate fire. It is war crime I actually spoke to a lawyer yesterday who told me there are five or six war crimes that Hamas is guilty of. This guy goes on and on, and he's making... it's all talking points. And so they bring on this woman Nora Erekat. Yeah this is the woman who I played earlier she's the Berkeley Arab scholar PhD

1:34:04 Oh. Yeah, I played her on MSNBC... No she was with Ronan the other day She's all over the place oh yeah All right we can play this i'm interested Eh well I'm just okay well you're just kind of ruined it Why? Well because she's obviously CIA Because she's from Berkeley duh Absolutely not. It's been well established that while Israel removed 8,000 of its settlers... Okay stop stop stop let me set this up She comes up and if you listen to her it's all gobbledygook That's why I think she CIA All gobbledygook How about she is at Berkeley? That's enough right there C.I.A. Well I don't think it's a giveaway She actually has two degrees from Berkeley Stomping ground But she's a professor, she sounds like a kid She sounds like an idiot And she doesn't make any points at all

1:34:51 Democracy now was snookered to bring her on as the counterargument because she doesn't make a good argument. She makes everyone go, well she's nuts! She has some legal justification that she's written the paper about. Stek sent us that and I looked over and went okay... Yeah well this is you listen during tell it even see what i'm talking about cuz we're listening with Eric And were going uh this woman is a plant. Since when? I don't know if I like you doing show prep with Eric I believe it's only once. What's cool is that I'm talking to myself and so he's on the phone looking stuff up, oh my god she's from Cal! So i'm going what?!

1:35:34 It's funny because if you had listened to me two weeks ago when I played her, yeah well your name didn't ring a bell that is the problem and i didn't see her before because we don't have a visual show so I just knew it was some other bonehead. I thought it was another different bone head but play her and you can see what im talking about this is just gibberish Absolutely not its been well established that while Israel removed 8000 of its settlers which were already in Gaza illegally and then replaced them with the West Bank where population continues to grow. In 2005, that it maintained control of the naval borders—of the land entries and exits of the electromagnetic sphere of the Population Registry of Gaza, it maintained

1:36:19 and continue its military occupations, under international law— Yes. —the occupation—Israel's occupation of Gaza has never ended. It remains an occupying power. Israel can repeat its propaganda over and over, but on the ground the occupation remains and is well and alive unfortunately. That's why Palestinians in Gaza cannot leave even if they want to become refugees right now. even have the right to become refugees because they are held captive in an open-air prison. As for blaming Hamas— I'm making interesting points, right? —for every civilian death, this is really crude. We should be alarmed that the fourth largest nuclear power in the world, certainly the largest military power in the Middle East, is blaming the victims for their own deaths.

1:37:07 Okay, so... Fourth lar- wait hold on. She said she makes it much of a subject. Fourth largest nuclear power? Yeah How does that work? Well we're number one I would say Russia's number two Right And then North Korea? Great Britain. France? Poland? I don't know! No, no Great Britain and France are nuclear powers and they're big. They got big arsenals. Uh...I don't know. And then China. You know but what's interesting- And then Korea How is this number four?! It's not even admitted that they have nukes officially Right!? Then how could it be number four

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Social Media Journalism, CIA Twitter Account, ISIS

The hosts criticize the media's reliance on Twitter as a primary news source, specifically regarding Benjamin Netanyahu's tweets and ISIS social media campaigns. They review the newly launched CIA Twitter account, describing its attempts at humor regarding Tupac and passwords as "insulting" and "arrogant." They argue that social media metrics are easily manipulated and should not be treated as legitimate journalism.

twitter· cia· isis· benjamin netanyahu· journalism

1:37:44 What I find interesting is that people with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, or the Israel Palestine conflict. People forget true leaders of countries and groups like whoever's in Hamas, whoever is in the Palestinian government they don't give a crap about the citizens! You forget this you think anyone cares? No! Of course not. They don't care. This is what... Oh it's a humanitarian crisis yeah Yeah, they don't care about you. They don't care about people in East Ukraine. They don't care about anybody They don't care about people dying in the streets of San Francisco I want to play one more little clip from democracy now on this topic because I This was just a jaw-dropper for me How is this news and why should it be reported?

1:38:32 And this is the democracy now recent tweet protest against This is a dehumanizing discourse and we should reject it vehemently Joshua Hammond I want to ask you about the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Betjeman was it bet you mean? Is it Benjamin, but she's got something wrong with her Yes She does bitch. You mentioned in netanyahu's actual tweet Where he said vengeance for the blood of a small child wait a minute wait a minute stop Let me just roll this back. Hold on a second... Why do we care about... Wait a minute, but wait a minute! This is a lie. Where he said vengeance for the blood of a small child Satan has not yet created We mourn every child Now in this latest assault in Gaza you have over 100 Palestinians killed it's estimated at least 22 Now let me go back for you

1:39:30 And we have this little clip. Hold on a second, why didn't it... oops! Didn't play for some reason. This is Benjamin Netanyahu. It's weird it's not playing I'm sorry anyway and for some reason I can't play this clip Benjamin Netanyahu who questioned the people he was uh who were interviewing him remember this? We had this clip some young kids and they were doing They were about to interview him. This is an episode, gosh I don't know going way back and he said what is this with your things? With your smartphones? And you're all slaves! Slaves to your devices... He didn't tweet anything

1:40:15 So he has a Twitter account. Benjamin Netanyahu does not tweet himself No, somebody else is doing it but it's beside the point this recent tweet was again Eric sitting there looking this up was two weeks ago and It's only part of a larger tweet because the person who's doing the tweeting for him can't do 140 characters or whatever they have to you know as one of those tweets that goes on and on and on This Democracy Now show is an abomination of journalism. Yes, and when you point to any tweet as factual... I have heard nothing on NPR for the past two weeks about how genius ISIS is with social media! How come this is allowed to go on? And no one tracks this we have no IP addresses it's just assumed and oh yes

1:41:04 the ISIS cyber army, they have thousands of people who know to tweet at the same time to have topics trending. Please! This could easily be The State Department it could be a bunch of Chiners in a back room this is almost like saying yeah we got a lot of clicks and views on our videos when you know it's bullcrap You know Facebook is selling likes from what is the What is it Malaysia? This is this means nothing. It's just this cannot pass as journalism when someone's always sent a tweet like the CIA Have you been watching the CIA account no I think I follow but I haven't seen any tweets from them now look it up Now the hubris of at CIA Whoever, whoever's doing this I find the things they tweet to be outrageous insulting

1:42:05 Um, yeah let me find a couple of them here. I'll read you one right now! From pacemaker batteries to exploring Earth from your cell phone see how CIA technology impacts your life July 7th No we don't know where Tupac is. CIA July 7th Sorry for not following you back at the Ellen Show but if you visit us maybe we can take a selfie And then the more egregious, July 7th. No we don't know your password so we can't send it to you sorry not sorry Really? This is just insulting! This is our intelligence service who kills people making jokes about Tupac Do you think you're funny or cool somehow? This guy should be fired Isn't the CIA supposed to shut up

1:43:05 No, we don't know your password so we can't send it to you. Hashtag sorry not sorry! That's arrogant. Yes. CIA thanks for making our first month on Twitter great today We take 10 minutes to answer five of the top questions You've asked twitterversary Do you see what I'm saying? This is a little sickening It's unacceptable. I think so, i'm going to ask Uncle Don about it when I see him next month You should! How do you feel? What the hell is going on over there?! I know what he's gonna say... Ever since the Democrats took over Yeah, Obama. Actually Obama's voice did it The CIA doesn't get out of their account this is the Defense Department Although I will point out that my uncle did become a Democrat

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

US-Germany Spying Scandal, CIA Station Chief

Germany's decision to expel the CIA station chief in Berlin following a spying scandal is discussed. The hosts analyze media reports characterizing the relationship as being at an "all-time low," noting the historical inaccuracy of such claims given the World Wars. They suggest the expulsion is a significant diplomatic message following revelations that the U.S. tapped Angela Merkel's phone.

germany· angela merkel· cia· espionage· diplomatic rift

1:44:00 From being a Republican and voted for Obama twice. Well, yeah, it was a company man You know this that's how you do it That's that's what you're supposed to the guy who's in there I Love doing that live. I think it really works well well well There's a lot going on here between these United States and the Germans And there's a lot of posturing. I have a couple of intro clips, okay? Uh...I've got so many clips here

1:44:41 Caught me off guard on the Deutschland. Let me start with a nice little... Yeah, here it is Germany overview report on the odd conclusion or the German scandal on NewsHour which I think summarizes it This is our public television. Public television. Germany says it still wants close relations with the US despite a spying scandal that follows two incidents of German government employees allegedly passing secrets to the U.S Berlin has asked the CIA station chief to leave the country, but the foreign minister said today this does not mean a permanent rift. Despite the troubling incidents in recent weeks that led to yesterday's decisions for me our partnership with the United States is without alternative we want to reinvigorate our partnership our friendship on an honest basis and we are ready for this

1:45:33 Last year it came out that the US intercepted German internet traffic and eavesdrop on the Chancellor. As a follow-up, play the second clip too because this is an overview report, similar report but has a different ending. leave. The CIA station chief in Berlin has been asked to leave Germany following yet another spying scandal he was apparently a key contact for two German officials who've recently been arrested accused of spying for the US this is about a major diplomatic rift between the two countries less than a year after it was revealed that Angela Merkel's phone was tapped

1:46:13 Well Damien McGuinness joins us live from Berlin. Damien, how has this affected bilateral relations? Well, what's interesting Aurora last year we thought the relations had got pretty bad when as you mentioned it was revealed that US security services appeared to have been bugging Angela Merkel's phone and that was when President Obama came on a very friendly visit here so she felt personally affronted but we've now seen with the revelations that in just one week Two German government employees have been accused of spying for the Americans. Their relations really have hit an all-time low." Okay, hold on... Yeah yeah please please please please This is the problem with some of the news media Our relations with Germany are not at an all time low That would be World War II Three

1:47:09 All time low. World War I, World War II... there's a lot of opportunities here unless you're just talking about all-time low for the last three years anyway go i'm sorry it just bugs me well um let's well this is the meme now we heard that determined media chairman media saying that the public is pissed off about this the public and i don't believe that for a second I don't think the public pays any attention. They're not like, crappy Americans you we hate you! No no but they are being made to think that it is moving that way and NPR our national treasure here is working very hard on making us believe that the Germans hate us so there is something being constructed this is from NPR's The Takeaway

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

German Public Opinion, Stasi Comparisons, NPR Coverage

The hosts review an NPR interview with a German editor who compares U.S. mass surveillance to the tactics of the Stasi and Nazi Germany. The editor argues that comprehensive surveillance destroys social trust and solidarity. The hosts question the German plea for "trust" given the history of terrorist cells operating within Germany prior to the September 11 attacks.

npr· stasi· surveillance· angela merkel· espionage

1:47:54 And on the program they have the editor of the Zeit, it's a German magazine. He may be the digital editor I'm not sure and just listen to the comparisons that are being made as The tables are turned! The rules are flipped on us my friends So naive? The Germans are really sort of kind of clueless about how espionage is done these days and a little jealous of the US technology What do you say to that Are we naive really? Let me refer to some of the events that upset Germans the most, okay. First you tapped the phone of Chancellor Angela Merkel. Seriously why is she a known terrorist is she even a suspect is she plotting something

1:48:39 I don't think so. And many Germans think likewise. Okay, now just so you know... Many Germans? Could this guy be any more quintessential German by the way? He's gonna say Nazis in a minute but he means Nazis. I have no idea why maybe he is reading it wrong because even in German it's Nazi. They're Nazi. Not Nazi. I don't know where he comes up with Nazi, but just so you know it's coming He says Nazi, but he means Nazis Merkel phone was a strong meme here in the eyes of the... A strong meme? It means meme But it says meme First, you tapped the phone of Chancellor Angela Merkel Seriously why is she an unknown terrorist Is she even a suspect? Is she plotting something

1:49:26 I don't think so. And many Germans think likewise, Merkel phone was a strong meme here in the eyes of the NSA no one is innocent we see government surveillance as necessary just as you do right it has to be limited by law controlled by the parliament and by courts and then it's okay but We have a problem with the idea of comprehensive surveillance. We have a problem with the concept that you have to save everything and we'll have to build a giant haystack, to find one needle in there afterwards. If you have reasonable suspicion, you can watch the bad guy in every way you want even Germany

1:50:05 But you can't watch all the people all the time in the hope to find one bad guy We have experienced what global surveillance can do to a society You know, we have seen it in Nazi Germany and with the Stasi and the German Democratic Republic Oh, wait a second. Did he just say that? We're like dead Nazis and the Stasi is that what I'm hearing and Believe it or not, the NPR guy was listening. Surveillance destroys trust and solidarity Would you compare the United States to the Stasi in East Germany? Yeah, in some ways, yeah. Oh yeah! Jawohl! Very good, yes. I want to know all from all of you is nearly the same Is there any way to repair this relationship but what do you think should be done here? You are one of our closest allies right? I love how he has a Silicon Valley thing... Right?!

1:50:55 Right? We think of America as a friend, as a true friend really. And you liberated us from the Nazis, but I think what we need now is a little more transparency in this partnership. A little more trust and in our democracy it's a no-go to wiretap an MP so trust us that we find bad guys on our own and ask us if they want to know. All right! So how did that work with all those 9 11 terrorists who were in Germany? Trust You?! Hmm okay... But he does point out the obvious that we are good friends, we have a relationship. We're really good friends... ...We just need to have more trust in the relationship and Jem Psaki

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

State Department Rhetoric, CIA vs NSA Feud

State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki's description of the U.S.-Germany rift as a "rough patch" is mocked by the hosts. They theorize that the outing of the CIA station chief may be a result of an internal feud between the NSA and CIA over budget and influence. They suggest the NSA may be "cozying up" with the FBI while the CIA remains aligned with the State Department.

jen psaki· state department· nsa· cia· fbi

1:51:39 It says she even takes it one step further that we're not at an all-time low. No, John We're just going through a rough patch in our relationship The German government has asked the CIA station chief at the US Embassy in Berlin to leave This is of course the second report of the us spying in Germany We really seem to be in a rough period in the us german relationship right now Well, I would disagree with that Jake. Obviously there are points in every relationship where you may have disagreements or you may have rough patches and certainly we've gone through some serious discussions... But she's relating it to an actual like a marriage like a real relationship yeah hey any

1:52:21 In every relationship you go through some rough patches, where you have arguments and disagreements. Husband-wife, husband-husband, wife-wife whatever. Germans over the last several months but we also work together very closely on a range of issues whether that's the P5 plus 1 negotiations or that's the situation on the ground and israel and i will continue on the secretary uh... i expect well i'd be able to engage with the foreign minister soon in the coming days but not saying relationships ending but you would agree that it's a rough path when these things happen as well as they are going to have strong important relationship has one where you're able to get through the rough patches we have every confidence of the entire city of this case as well so i think this is what this is like a relationship between me and her passion yes

1:53:07 We call it a day, Angela. To end this way... Just a rough patch! Okay here comes Angela. Okay, let's take a look at the possible obvious thing. We've talked about this off during post-mortem what is the possibility

1:53:48 that the NSA in its battle with, which we haven't really talked much about it in the last few shows. With their feud with the CIA over who gets the most money has something to do with this outing of the CIA station chief which is gotta be a big... I mean if you're in the NSA and you're having this battle and maybe part You have to be laughing your ass off. So let's rewind, our initial analysis which is held true to this day is there as a rift between the CIA and certainly the NSA but also FBI but more importantly the NSA who were getting all the money had all the cool toys had an office deck which looked like the Enterprise bridge Star Trek whatever

1:54:36 And then they send a guy who is still a card-carrying CIA agent to work for a contractor. He was not a direct NSA employee, and he spills the beans and makes these guys look like crap! Now, only one day after the budget is signed by the president for the intelligence agencies which we read this on their show. Which includes a confidential schedule of the real money that's when all this takes place and it's I think it's very possible This is a complete retaliation but you've got to wonder what side Merkel and the Germans really are on? This could all be

1:55:22 They could be in bed with the NSA for all we know and be wanting to oust the CIA. If you remember when they first broke some of this news, and the Germans were told that they were being spied on... There was an indication that they shared information and maybe they were being spied on by the Germans themselves, and the NSA was collecting the information on behalf of the Germans. There was some indication that might be going on... And then it kind of broke down when the revelation that Merkel's cell phone or mobile phone should be called a cell phones really in Americanism uh... was it was being tapped in that or turn that kind of and has screwed things up a little bit but it was like i had an impression they were in bed together and i think i think this is probably the uh... if he's going to be let's assume there's a there's a script going on here you'd be look we're sorry we it wasn't our idea to tap your phone it was all bombers and hear some information you might find interesting kissed two-year people now we have all the phone calls if you want to hear him

1:56:24 have been working with the CIA station chief and I don't know what they're up to but they're up to something. And you might want to look into this, here's all of them, here are the files go over them as you feel." And i think that is a distinct possibility why not? First of all cell phones in Germany are known as Handy. Do you have your handy? Just so you know it's called a Handy Generally speaking, worldwide for technology writers they're referred to as mobile phones. Handy! It's a handy... I'm handy and we can assume that this may also have something to do with direct retaliation against the United States State Department from everything We know at this moment the so-called spy May have really only been in contact with the State Department

1:57:16 And I think that it's more likely there is a rift between Germany, Angola and the State Department. Particularly if you remember this... You know what i mean? Yeah! But I think that would be reasonable and state department CIA go very much hand in hand of course Maybe this is just a... screw you guys. I think the size that we've noticed, the State Department CIA would be on one side which would make sense in this whole regard and we notice that the NSA has cozied up with the FBI because during congressional hearings and we watched tons of them

1:57:57 the FBI is often defending the NSA in front of the Senate and the House. And it seems like there's some coziness between those two guys, so I think this is a... if nothing else, it sounds like a good drama. It does but it's just a A rough patch in the relationship. It's a rough patch! Another one of Snowden's lawyers cropped up though on Sky, and it's always Snowden's lawyer so we have the German lawyer Wolfgang this is Jesslyn Raddick Oh yeah, I've heard that. Herself a whistleblower. No she! She's just the right... oh right no. Yeah this is the one that has got the funny voice Yes and when she gets excited her mouth starts to go all funny. And then she starts talking like this A little bit It has something it's one of those things Nervous thing. She's nervous. Starts talking funny. It's like a little Tourette's thing. I think it's sexy

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

Edward Snowden's Lawyers, Ursula von der Leyen

The hosts discuss comments from Edward Snowden's legal team regarding the German spying investigation. They also introduce Ursula von der Leyen, the German Defense Minister, as a rising political figure and potential future Chancellor. They describe her as a "slick" and "badass" politician in the mold of Christine Lagarde.

edward snowden· jesslyn raddick· ursula von der leyen· germany· defense minister

1:58:50 You think so? Yeah, it's interesting. It is! That feels great to have your little left. Edward Snowden's lawyer has told Sky News that this latest row is over allegations that the US has been spying on the German government's own investigation into those claims if you think about uh... the idea of the u.s. discovering a mole from china or russia or even a friendly country infiltrating that staff one at that time congressional intel committees we would be completely outraged there's a very cozy trusting cooperative relationship between germany and the u s n this is by

1:59:35 scandal is the biggest such eruption since World War II. Why is Snowden's so-called lawyer saying this kind of stuff? I have no idea, you tell me! Well there's a lot amiss in this and and and I think the final analysis is obvious we have So we have Obama, and he's really just...the administration. I don't know what they're doing but he's raising funds! He's going around the country giving speeches then saying Republicans suck which is boring. It has been months since we've had a decent clip from him it's all boring nothing new nothing interesting

2:00:23 Then we have the State Department with the Kagan's, with the Yalies and they are no doubt doing all kinds of ugly things. And then we have these NSA CIA but really Germany in the middle of everything still dealing with the Russians you know... Of course they've got Poland all this stuff is yeah it's a whole different entity And we cannot dismiss it the way we have been dismissing it, and maybe this sending the station chief home. Which yeah...it's like sending your ambassador home. It's a big deal. There is just a message to say screw you! And then there's this new player coming onto the scene which has nothing that...I don't know where she fits into anything but have you seen Ursula von der Leyen? The defense minister?

2:01:13 No, look her up. Look at your type in this German Defense Minister Ursula German defense Oh and then look at images Am I gonna like her probably? Oh she looks a little moon okay? I like the Ursula oh she looks badass She is considered to be the next She's gonna Chancellor next chancellor. She's gonna be the next chancellor. I like her look. I like it a lot She was on a couple of the shows you did I only saw well, maybe only one of the shows but I saw her that's when I clued me in she was like giving to her rationale for kicking the CIA guy out and and I watched her and she is really slick. She is of the Christine Lagarde school of Yes domination although younger prettier Yeah, but you can see where she's headed Oh yeah, she's headed straight for the top. She's a tip for the top

2:02:17 No Botox. So this is a... you have to keep tabs on this one? You know what would really look good on her? Catsuit! A st- no, a sash. A sash?! I'm gonna show my school by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab On KnowAgenda morning We do have a few people to thank for Show 634 And we're gonna thank him, including Ian Larson in Riverhead, New Zealand. 14714. Does he have anything here? He's got a birthday coming up!

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Listener Birthdays, Lake Travis Photo, Newsletter Lures

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss a controversial photo of Curry and his wife Mickey on a boat in Lake Travis that was used in the show's newsletter. Curry clarifies that the photo was not photoshopped and describes a day spent with "Russian spies" on the lake. Dvorak admits to using the photo as a "lure" to increase newsletter open rates, leading Curry to consider managing his own mailing list.

lake travis· newsletter· mailchimp· photography· spies

2:03:02 And he's donating $147.14 because 14-7-14 is my 50th birthday, and what a better way to give than a gift of... What a better way to give myself a gift than to support the best podcast in the universe? We encourage that sort of thing. We sure do! Yep. I know you'll have a birthday call coming up. Chris Roald Tengasdahl. Chris Roald Tengasdahl In Christiansen. I think it is. No, I don't have that part 13330 he says here's my $100 donation plus another 33 for finding two slips in the bottle return machine worth 33 and okays

2:03:50 Norwegian money. Norwegian kroner. Kroner, yeah. Norwegian money. Wampum! Wampum? Well they're not in the Euros... wisely not in the Euro. That's interesting he's finding free which means- Finding free money and sending it to us Which means they can't wear a sash in Norway You can always wear a sash No, no, no Charles Jordan in Milwaukee Wisconsin $100 anonymous from somewhere Oklahoma hundred dollars Scott Mulkentheon in Maidstone, Victoria Australia 99.99 Forgive me podfathers for I have douched it has been 18 months since my last donation Please give me a shout out for my 35th birthday on the 16th It was actually John's trick photo of Adam and Mickey in the newsletter that got me to donate You know this is let me go let me stop right now Let me finish the note very tricky John For what its FYI? I have never had troubles receiving the newsletter

2:04:46 That's because you're in New Zealand. This is not true for Americans. Now, first of all I feel violated. Well blame the gene! I felt violated when he posted that picture on Google Plus What is that all about? I'm not going to go on his boat anymore if he's gonna... What did i say, what did i say about going on boats. Don't go on the boat you said. I said don't go on the boat! Yeah and it's like if i'd known that it was gonna show up somewhere i would have made my hair not look like i'm bald. You'll look like a drowning rat And Mickey looks awesome like she has no clothes on underneath. She's got a smile on her face It reminds me, you see these clothes once in awhile and it's always the caption which one is the model? I think it could have been woman with dick Either way So here's so here's the deal. I've gotten numerous Emails and this was just one of them saying nice Photoshop What why would it be a photoshop come from

2:05:52 Wow. Why would it be a Photoshop? Yeah, why would it be a photoshopped apparently Sorgine threw you two overboard That's the way I saw it Because you were obviously sunbathing on the deck, and you greased up the place with too much suntan oil. So he threw you both off the boat to get... No no wrong! Wrong let me tell you how this works Okay so you're on Lake Travis which is like 65 miles of river kind of You know you're sitting on the boat and with Gene and his friends Oksana and Piotr, all spies. The whole boat was like a SS spy vessel. Spieship! Seriously what do you do? Real estate? Yeah okay fine spy. Eugene's a spy they're all Russian spies and we're drinking vodka coincidentally by coincidence and eating you know hummus

2:06:46 I can't think of a better combination and then after like that guy and humming after two hours like you got a piece so you jump in the lake So we're really there's into her head on the boat. No it's not this is not that big about oh, yeah That's what those? That's what Lake Travis is for Jump in Travis is a giant lake of piss all most lakes are and turtle poop Bunch of spies Oxana was acute spy though. They usually are the most of the female spies are pretty cute

2:07:24 Yeah, yeah. And Amanda? No... not Amanda maybe it was Amanda but a red-headed Russian spy Oh! They're all dead. Russians love them red headed spies Check this out and so we're back on the dock in the harbor and then oh should we all go eat something and then the Redhead Russian spy says I'm sorry i can't I have a hot scrabble date What?! Yeah exactly that is code You know it's code. Terrible, that is code! It has to be! A hot Scrabble date... Oh I'm sorry you can't eat with us because of your hot Scrabble dates? Alright. Anyway and that's how the photo came to be its not photoshopped Yes its a real photo. It was sent to me and I said this could be a good lure

2:08:16 And it worked to get people open a newsletter because people love photos of Adam. Yeah, for some reason I have looked at by the way I got onto this when you were doing one of the Hot Pocket tours if you if you tease the photo in the subject line people were Interested to see what you were up to and so then i noticed that you know the really did most uh... them but some of the best response ever gotten was that couple show you know i only three or four five miles ago when i sent some photo of you doing something And I said, oh here's Adam doing something. Oh when I was photo bombing my niece, Mickey's niece? Right that picture! That packed him in let's see what Adam is doing so yeah it just like this is it this is the way found it I founded well okay then what I'm going to do as I'm gonna set up my own mail serving software which will not be MailChimp I'll do PHP list

2:09:14 so that everyone will receive it no spam and I'm gonna send my own photos don't get on my photo stuff if there's like a business in this, i'm going to do it myself You Abusing no I mean you see what you're missing is the editorial control aspect. You just you don't understand I don't get it that eyes of Emma as a professional I can pick the photo cuz there's plenty of photos of you all right dad one would you wet? Wet in the water just to jam like it was on irresistible Okay. Anyway, onward! Brian Williams in Streamwood Illinois sends a check-in every couple of shows actually with the number 7373 which I think requires a... Well yeah, I wasn't quite ready for that. It's one of our hams, of course Scott Waldherr, Waldhairer, hair double nickels on the dime from Rhinelander Wisconsin

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Holland vs Netherlands, Donation Acknowledgments

A debate ensues over the proper name for the Netherlands versus Holland, with Dvorak citing a government website and Curry relying on his experience living there. They continue reading listener donations, highlighting regular contributors like Alan Bean, who has sent a $50 check every month for two years.

netherlands· holland· donations· checks· listeners

2:10:12 Thank you for all the hard work. Paul Love in Mechanicsville, Virginia. Mechanicsville? I don't know where that is! It's where the mechanics are... And that's a double nickels on the dime. Nice. Roy Metz Aquarium Services So if you're in San Diego California and you know where to go Double nickels on the dime. Why because? He still on the why because. Ivar Vanderveld Okay, so then you explain to me when you go to the Dutch

2:11:07 government website. They have a huge promotion for Holland, and if you read their definition why is it Holland or Netherlands? There's a whole web page devoted to this they say Holland is fine as a generic term for the Netherlands. Do these people wear a sash by any chance? This is the government of Holland saying this! Well you have North Holland and South Holland which are two provinces... Yeah there are two provinces But the government website says it's okay. What government website are you talking about? I'll send you the link, I didn't even... Right It's a government website! Type in this Google search No i'm not gonna do it Okay then never mind Send me the link It's bullcrap It's not like I live there or anything or know anything about it

2:11:57 I don't care what you say, i'm telling you what the government says. If there's a rule, I follow it! The government says something and I obey them. The government says that. Hold on... I'm a rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it. Post folks in Romford Essex 5247 Walter Grant IV in Moreno Valley. These are all $50 donors is how we end. In Moreno Valley, California Mike Westerfield who seems to donate every show Another 50 bucks, those checks come in very routinely. Patricia, so it's Sir Mike Westerfield. Patricia Worthington in Miami Florida. Brandon Savoy in parts of Nome. Stephen Von Riette in Kingsville Victoria Australia and his next door neighbor Paul Groves in Wangaratta Victoria Australia.

2:12:56 Matthew Stevens in North Richland Hills, Texas. Alexander Sokovy in Moscow. John Straighg in San Antonio. Patrick Macombe...Sir Patrick I'm sure of it is Mount Vernon New York. James Butcher and Dawali New Western Australia. Sir Mark Tanner Whittier California David Funk in Redding California sir Alan Bean our Our regular over here in Oakland, California. I can wave and he can see me. And finally Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia. Want to thank those folks and everyone else who helped contribute to the show at lesser amounts of money. Those guys at the $50 they're there a lot!

2:13:37 I see those names a lot. There's a couple guys that just the checks come in sometimes two three times a month, twice a month once a show either side these i think it's a couple guys just constantly coming Alan Bean writes a check and mails it in right and his agreement was As long as the show is good, I'll send you a check every month for $50. And he sent...he's not...as far as I know, he sent a check every month and it has been for like two years. That's really fantastic. It really is And then of course we have a lot of people who are on our 33.33 monthly, it's our $4 show or four dollars a week if 1212s 1111s is the lot this is We need more of that If you're 3333 seems to be actually weirdly enough the most popular A lot of people love that one and if you have a 3333 I've not received a podcast license send me an email

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Black Knight Ceremony, Maxwell Finn, Opera Sashes

The hosts perform a "Black Knight" knighthood ceremony for Maxwell Finn for his $1,000 contribution. They revisit the idea of wearing official EU sashes to formal events like the opera to command respect. Curry suggests that his wife Mickey could make custom sashes for the show's knights.

black knight· maxwell finn· knighthood· sash· opera

2:14:35 Adam McCurry calm and I will hook you up immediately David Foley dot podcast license comm is now alive and as he deserves So definitely get on that. Thank you all very much It really enables us to do the program And it's highly appreciated Devorah org slash and a Ryan wants to congratulate his buddy Jonathan Diggle. His birthday is coming up on the 14th Ian Larson turning 50 tomorrow as well and Scott Malkenthian 35 on the 16th Happy Birthday from all of your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! And then we have our Black Knight Wow two black knights in one week that's uh... That's pretty, you know when it rains it pours I guess

2:15:29 Maxwell Finn I really do appreciate your support of the best podcast in the university, amount of $1,000 or more and therefore very happy to welcome you sir too. The exclusive table of the Knights and the Dames and hereby I pronounce thee Sir Inside Jobs Knights! And now a dinner roundtable for you my friend we have hookers & blow whiskey and wet wipes bad science and perky breasts Cuban cigars and single malt scotch rent boys and chardonnays if you feel like it three geishas in a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze wenches and beer or maybe just some bong hits and bourbon or mutton and mead And go to noahgeneration.com slash rings pick up your well-deserved ring and I think as a black knight you can actually make your own sash A Black Knight sash and wear it I Think anyone can make their own sash and wear it yeah, the sash is cool I think going out with the sash on has got to be the height of Well dressed Yeah Okay

2:16:32 You know, you'd actually imagine Mickey all dolled up in some very elaborate outfit and you wearing a tux. With all the hair's all done, everything. A tux and a sash and going to the opera or going to the embassy one of these things where you get invited And show up together I'm telling ya everyone would defer They would think that you're something You'd stand out a couple of years Oh yeah well we look very good I think people would actually... Top of a cake If we both had a sash on Think people would actually move to the sidewalk and stand aside and wave at us I don't know if Mickey would need this action. She's already she already yeah, sure nice without you I think her in a session that was without me and with the sash much better Yeah, but I think you have to have the sash she has no stash How about a tiara? Oh a small one All right hey be very afraid slaves

2:17:30 the stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq and abroad. An IAEA spokeswoman said they believe the material involved is low-grade, and would not present a significant safety security or nuclear proliferation risk. ISIS also took over a military base in northern Iraq last month that contains Saddam Hussein's stockpile of chemical weapons including hundreds of warheads containing sarin and mustard gas." Okay, I have a couple questions here one

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Iraq Dirty Bomb, Calculus Meme, Snowden Documents

The hosts debunk a news story about ISIS acquiring "dirty bomb" materials, noting that the materials were low-grade medical supplies. They mock the media's repetitive use of the word "calculus" as a synonym for strategy. Additionally, they discuss declassified documents showing the Obama administration knew about the British government's plan to destroy The Guardian's hard drives containing Snowden's leaks.

iraq· isis· dirty bomb· calculus· edward snowden

2:16:32 You know, you'd actually imagine Mickey all dolled up in some very elaborate outfit and you wearing a tux. With all the hair's all done, everything. A tux and a sash and going to the opera or going to the embassy one of these things where you get invited And show up together I'm telling ya everyone would defer They would think that you're something You'd stand out a couple of years Oh yeah well we look very good I think people would actually... Top of a cake If we both had a sash on Think people would actually move to the sidewalk and stand aside and wave at us I don't know if Mickey would need this action. She's already she already yeah, sure nice without you I think her in a session that was without me and with the sash much better Yeah, but I think you have to have the sash she has no stash How about a tiara? Oh a small one All right hey be very afraid slaves

2:17:30 the stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq and abroad. An IAEA spokeswoman said they believe the material involved is low-grade, and would not present a significant safety security or nuclear proliferation risk. ISIS also took over a military base in northern Iraq last month that contains Saddam Hussein's stockpile of chemical weapons including hundreds of warheads containing sarin and mustard gas." Okay, I have a couple questions here one

2:18:17 Why are you saying we should be afraid of a dirty bomb when 20 seconds later, you say it was like medical stuff? Like I was low-grade blows up. Oh yeah, you're flying needle can stab ya and to What is this weapons of mass destruction from Saddam Hussein? I thought there were no weapons of mass destruction. I thought too I didn't know about sarin gas and all crap with and all the sudden it's all there This is bullcrap. This is just this is a phony baloney story to get people back on bond and neocon bandwagon must be it must be I see no other reason why So I caught this Uh, this just got nothing to do with any thread here It's just that something I caught because I pointed out as a meme before i'm pointing it out as a meme again This is someone using the word calculus in a question and the person answers it uses the word again

2:19:16 Using wrong word calculus is in all caps. You can't miss it. The United States seeks out those negotiations or how does it at all change maybe what our calculus is? I don't know that it directly changes our calculus, but... Do they mean calculation? No, they mean strategy. Calculus They're using the words calculus as a synonym for strategy. Interesting. Calculus And Obama uses it It sounds smart I've got another one, another shorty. OK. Curious declassified document about Snowden. Oh! Newly declassified documents show the Obama administration knew ahead of time about the British government's plan to force The Guardian newspaper to destroy hard drives containing documents leaked by Snowden. The Associated Press obtained records which show NSA officials called the planned destruction quote good news

2:20:18 I thought that was peculiar. Well, uh yeah that your government lied to you? Gee, I had no idea! I had no idea what was going on. I was looking at some of the stuff going on in Ukraine um... No clips per se because the clips are all basically the same but Poroshenko and Yats have now said, you know we're going to continue getting rid of the horrible terrorists there in the east which are Ukrainians. And for each Ukrainian soldier killed the president has vowed it will kill tens and hundreds of militants! There's a bunch of war-hungry mongering a-holes over there I'm telling this Ukraine that it's more obvious when you start really digging into this is a fascist

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Ukraine Privatization, Putin in Cuba, Debt Forgiveness

The discussion turns to the rapid privatization of state assets in Ukraine following an IMF loan. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin's visit to Cuba is highlighted, where Russia wrote off 90% of Cuba's Soviet-era debt ($32 billion) in exchange for oil drilling rights and the potential reopening of a signals intelligence base.

ukraine· imf· vladimir putin· cuba· gazprom

2:21:10 Oh, yeah. Oh yeah absolutely I mean there are real Nazis Yeah Yes! And they were supporting them and they were taking selfies with McCain and Noodleman oh yeah and Brennan was there that's the one that gets me it's like you know can you imagine seeing a little you know a An Occupy rally in New York and seeing the head of the KGB hanging out there? Mm-hmm I don't think so Here's what is, of course we know that Ukraine got the big IMF loan and as a part of that This goes quick. Ukraine's cabinet ministers has agreed to sell a 50% stake in the Urknafta And 90 percent of the shares in the Odessa port plant These are their big facilities in the port So they're privatizing the entire country

2:22:04 And they haven't even killed everybody yet. In Greece, you know they waited a couple years and then they sold everything off... This is- These guys are in a hurry! Yeah Yeah, they got to put up some gates and stuff in Odessa by the way. Odessa which is you know is disputed also disputed territory Meanwhile everybody seems to be jumping on board Everyone's kind of going rogue Italy is going is jumping into the south stream gas pipeline with it with Gazprom Croatia's jumping in It seems like the Charmings and the French You know kind of cozying up to Putin

2:22:45 In the peace talks, French President François Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel told Putin on Thursday that it was important to reach a political solution quickly. So they got three-way telephone calls doing the three way... There's a three way I'd like to see! And then Putin is just sticking up our poop shoot, the Putin Just coming right over to Cuba. Vladimir Putin concluded his first stop on the Latin American tour to Havana, speaking at a press conference he confirmed that many major important deals have been signed particularly allowing the Russian companies Rubezhneft to drill oil in offshore platforms in Cuba potentially those oil fields have up to 20 billion barrels of oil many other deals as well

2:23:44 But the biggest news of the day and this is the talk on the town now Is that Moscow officially confirmed it is writing off 90% of Cubans debt to? The Soviet Union which amounts to 32 billion US dollars an astronomical sum of money for this country the remaining 10 percent will be reinvested into The Cuban economy. The intrigue, of course is now what Havana will often offer in return at these speculation is rife that The military base, the radar base on Cuba, the Soviet base Lourdes which was shut down in the late 1990s may be relaunched. But that is of course a speculation it was not confirmed. And that's our backyard, dude. Yeah well it becomes a problem if they open up shop there and that's why they're saying it obviously yeah just to threaten I've got a piece of new you're done with the yeah well I was just gonna hit Afghanistan real quick if you want if you don't mind okay yeah so um Kerry of course had to had to jump in immediately but he's been flying you know that is a thankless job that uh Secretary

2:24:44 Secretary of State job. He loves it! Oh, of course he loves it now but... He's beaming because he thinks he is the boss. He is. He's running some of it The president called our President Obama called those two guys hey this is not right United Nations is saying, oh we have to audit. That could take several weeks I have actually a clip of Kerry on this Okay so just to set it up for those who are new to the no agenda show The Afri Ghani Is that his name? He's a shitty name. Yeah the other guys names better Abdullah Abdullah is easy to remember So Abdullah Abdullah is not supposed to win

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Afghanistan Election Audit, Cholera in South Sudan

John Kerry's trip to Kabul to mediate an election audit between Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah is analyzed as a move to protect U.S. interests. The hosts also report on a cholera outbreak in South Sudan, noting the presence of UN "Blue Helmets" and drawing parallels to the UN-linked cholera outbreak in Haiti.

john kerry· afghanistan· ashraf ghani· south sudan· cholera

2:23:44 But the biggest news of the day and this is the talk on the town now Is that Moscow officially confirmed it is writing off 90% of Cubans debt to? The Soviet Union which amounts to 32 billion US dollars an astronomical sum of money for this country the remaining 10 percent will be reinvested into The Cuban economy. The intrigue, of course is now what Havana will often offer in return at these speculation is rife that The military base, the radar base on Cuba, the Soviet base Lourdes which was shut down in the late 1990s may be relaunched. But that is of course a speculation it was not confirmed. And that's our backyard, dude. Yeah well it becomes a problem if they open up shop there and that's why they're saying it obviously yeah just to threaten I've got a piece of new you're done with the yeah well I was just gonna hit Afghanistan real quick if you want if you don't mind okay yeah so um Kerry of course had to had to jump in immediately but he's been flying you know that is a thankless job that uh Secretary

2:24:44 Secretary of State job. He loves it! Oh, of course he loves it now but... He's beaming because he thinks he is the boss. He is. He's running some of it The president called our President Obama called those two guys hey this is not right United Nations is saying, oh we have to audit. That could take several weeks I have actually a clip of Kerry on this Okay so just to set it up for those who are new to the no agenda show The Afri Ghani Is that his name? He's a shitty name. Yeah the other guys names better Abdullah Abdullah is easy to remember So Abdullah Abdullah is not supposed to win

2:25:26 But the Ghani guy is did you see the picture of Kerry with Abdullah Abdullah? And they were both wearing the exact same suit and the exact thing. I know I didn't see that No, that was pretty good. I think he's trying to kiss up to carry excellent All right You have this election in a lecture little background transfer of power in turmoil John Kerry spent his day in Kabul trying to convince Afghanistan's leaders To agree to a comprehensive audit after June 14th election. No one is declaring victory at this time The results are yet to be finalized, and so those questions have to be resolved. And I'm very appreciative that Dr Ghani respects that fact." Ghani is the frontrunner according to controversial preliminary results. Our commitment is to ensure that election process enjoys the integrity legitimacy of Afghanistan in the world would believe it

2:26:19 And so I guess what Carrie was, the message she was there to send was if Abdullah Abdullah wins then we're pulling everything out. All our money screw you pound sand you brown people however If you let our guy in Ghani if you let him win Then well you can keep the money will bring more money We'll keep some people here and everything will be flowing yeah that's pretty much it Yeah, yeah Well, you know those damn poppy fields Okay, so I'm was looking at some United Nations stuff. I want to look at the thinking of the children looking at some UNICEF stuff And looking at what's going on in Sudan south and north Sudan you see that in Sudan they now have cholera

2:27:06 Why don't you let me finish my story? I'm sorry. Didn't mean it. I'm sorry, but we'll pretend I didn't say that Forget it no, I'm sorry just play South Sudan news then we'll go on to the your topic now more than 2600 people have been infected by cholera in South Sudan at least 60 more have been killed by the outbreak since May according to the charity save the children thousands of kids are at risk Cholera is a waterborne disease that's particularly dangerous in countries with poor sanitation Well, South Sudan has indeed be ravaged by deep ethnic tension since last year ever since President Salva care sacked his deputy react Masha. I Apologize. I didn't mean to blow your

2:27:51 Yeah, no you just stepped all over it now. You're a punchline everything ruined I'm sorry had to show off your knowledge. I didn't know you knew that Well, I had actually put it in the in the show notes because I thought it was so funny It seems like that's what the United Nation does you know hey Haiti? We're gonna help you this is a little annoying because there's a huge UN mission down there huh with the exact same people That they sent to Haiti really same profile of It's almost identical. You mean, who was it that brought the cholera in from the Blue Helmets? I don't remember but they're the same guys. Why don't they stop this and why doesn't somebody notice this and then you end of course won't take... They knew the UN did it in Haiti. They can't...they're not sure that South Sudan situation but come on!

2:28:41 Where's cholera coming from? It's a great way to kill people. It's really demoralizing, I mean if you're pooping your guts out... You're gonna do what people tell you to do! Yeah, you're gonna follow the rules. I have a sash, and i want you to follow my rules! I'm a rule follower so if the rules is that we have to do it then ill do it Here's a new rule coming up. You play this clip is actually from last I'm afraid to say anything now because I don't want Actually that the fact that you knew it was annoying phone bombs We're back in this then the late day in 2003 yeah

2:29:19 Yeah, play phone bombs. The federal government today announced new rules that will require passengers flying to the United States from some overseas airports to power up their phones and laptops before boarding The move comes amidst growing concern that terrorists are trying to fashion new kinds of bombs Possibly disguised as electronic devices now but what what is new about this report? What's new about it? When did they go back to this... Remember when you had to get on a plane and they make you bring your laptop out and power it up. Were you on were you on this program three days ago, when we did the whole bit about this exact topic Yeah We talked about but I don't really realize that there was no clip that said they had to turn your laptop on! I do not remember that in that clip Yes CD players

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Airport Security Drills, Electronic Device Power-Up

The hosts discuss new TSA rules requiring passengers on international flights to power up electronic devices to prove they are not disguised explosives. They mock the logic of the rule, suggesting it puts security agents at risk if a device actually is a bomb. John C. Dvorak shares a "gag" idea involving lead foil cutouts of handguns placed in books to trigger x-ray alarms.

tsa· airport security· bombs· laptops· pranks

2:28:41 Where's cholera coming from? It's a great way to kill people. It's really demoralizing, I mean if you're pooping your guts out... You're gonna do what people tell you to do! Yeah, you're gonna follow the rules. I have a sash, and i want you to follow my rules! I'm a rule follower so if the rules is that we have to do it then ill do it Here's a new rule coming up. You play this clip is actually from last I'm afraid to say anything now because I don't want Actually that the fact that you knew it was annoying phone bombs We're back in this then the late day in 2003 yeah

2:29:19 Yeah, play phone bombs. The federal government today announced new rules that will require passengers flying to the United States from some overseas airports to power up their phones and laptops before boarding The move comes amidst growing concern that terrorists are trying to fashion new kinds of bombs Possibly disguised as electronic devices now but what what is new about this report? What's new about it? When did they go back to this... Remember when you had to get on a plane and they make you bring your laptop out and power it up. Were you on were you on this program three days ago, when we did the whole bit about this exact topic Yeah We talked about but I don't really realize that there was no clip that said they had to turn your laptop on! I do not remember that in that clip Yes CD players

2:30:08 Alright CD pleasure, right? That's the yeah and that's where we got this clip. I'm a rule follower So if the rule is that we have to do it And then we discussed about how stupid it is because you don't really want To be a TSA agent when someone's powering up their explosive right elbow little phone And I left out, well since we're going to be reminiscing. I left out the anecdote that i was going to say which I didn't say which is a great gag to play on somebody if you can get ahold of their lap. Turn the battery. To have a power-on sequence where it says bomb initiated 3 2 1 That's a great gag John!

2:30:52 That's really funny. Now the other great gag, which I didn't bring up but which I still think is a funny one if you can get some lead foil...I think I may have brought this up on the show before If you get some lead foil You cut out a profile of an automatic weapon Of a handgun and then you stick it in somebody's book It's hilarious! I tell ya Because its a foil so they wouldn't even notice it would be like a bookmark But when it goes through the x-ray machine there's a distinct hand gun Shows up on the x-ray machine, and then you have to go through a period of embarrassment. Yeah This is great gag this is very very funny I just yeah well just something to think about sorry about the repeat okay Let's go to here's what here's a bullcrap story And I don't know what the point of this is maybe you can tell me this is the bull crap Silicon Valley intern story

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Silicon Valley Interns, Tech Industry Hookers

A report on high-paid Silicon Valley interns making $7,000 a month is linked to a CNN Money segment about a "cottage sex industry" in San Jose. The hosts mock the "tech expert" coverage of hookers charging $500 an hour to wealthy programmers and app developers. They characterize the segment as a desperate attempt to create tech news in the absence of new product releases.

palantir· silicon valley· interns· sex workers· cnn money

2:31:44 Okay. month. That's not bad! Now these are people who can be hired out of high school by technology firms let's take a look at some of the highest paid Palantir is a data analysis technology company they top the bill over $7,000 Twitter Facebook Google Apple all pretty significant salaries and more than the average household income in the US which is just four thousand two hundred

2:32:21 and $80. Not a bad start for these people, but they are in very high demand Silicon Valley firms doing their best to attract those talent early on trying to get them even before they go to university into those internships and of course into jobs afterwards Well this is very interesting as it plays right into a news report that I picked up This is what I decided not to play earlier in the show at the very beginning And I'm glad I didn't because it fits right in It's The Winter That's right, your weekly hooker report as you know. Economics ties directly into hookers and when you've got interns making seven grand... The world's oldest profession meets one of the worlds newest. Laurie Siegel, CNN Money Tech Expert

2:33:09 You recently visited Silicon Valley. Now she's a tech expert because this is now tech news you see and for when we have tech news if we don't have a phone to talk about well what do we let's talk about hookers! A quick wealth that some of these guys experience there the app developers, entrepreneurs, programmers App developers? It kind of led to a sort of cottage sex industry. Cottage sex industry? What?! Cottage sex industry, kinda- Don Lemon where under what rock do you live my friend? Oh my god... Sure I mean Don the last thing you think when you think about Silicon Valley and these nerds and programmers Nerds! They don't fuck The last thing you think of, there's no fuck! There no fuck! ...are the sex industry. But we spoke- We went and did a behind the scenes look and we spoke to women who are capitalizing on a lot of the new money there And they're using some very interesting marketing techniques Interesting new marketing techniques? Oh wow this is I can't wait to hear

2:34:03 Are they using codes like like carbonite codes to advertise? According to the females we've had contact with and males because it's both males and females They indicate that they can make more money in San Jose And they can charge more for their services based on what individuals in our area make people in the area Make a lot average wages over the last year of over $96,000 Karen is a sex worker based in this region She charges four to five hundred dollars an hour how much money do you think you've made I've made Close to million dollars now. Why Sienna and this by the way, this was a six minute report

2:34:49 on hookers in Silicon Valley. By the way, also male hookers because you know those geeks and nerds? Faggots all of them! This is really unbelievable. That's tech news today. This is your tech news if it's not a phone... I can't say anything other than that Hold on a second John. Whoa hold up time for your tech news today everybody John is there new phone out no there's no new phone out Alex No there you go thats your tech news for today and let's talk about hookers This really, really has to stop. Well sometimes you know these rich guys and these hookers it doesn't go well Yeah I noticed this Google...I've kind of been avoiding the Google story So here's the report Heroin Girl I've been avoiding the google story Well you brought it up with the hookers That's why CNN did it A woman police describe as a high-priced hooker is tied to the heroin death of a second man And its Don Lemon again

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

Google Executive Heroin Death, Alex Tichelman

The hosts discuss the death of Google executive Forrest Hayes, who overdosed on heroin on his yacht in the presence of sex worker Alex Tichelman. They critique the media's focus on the yacht being for sale and the "secretive" nature of Google's internal culture. The segment highlights the bizarre details of the case, including Tichelman's past and the executive's involvement with Google Glass.

google glass· heroin· alex tichelman· forrest hayes· yacht

2:35:52 Don is doing nothing but hooker reports. And the other story that he bombed... There's no freaking way the man was a drug abuser Alex Tichelman's alleged role in the heroin death of a Google executive in California prompted police By the way, first name Alex same as the hot lesbian on Orange is the New Black. Just a coincidence and this one's also kind of hot looking just to coincide. To reopen a case across the country that dead man in Georgia was Titchelman's boyfriend Dean Riopelle owner of Atlanta's Masquerade Bar and Concert Hall and lead singer of the shock and glam rock band Impotence Sea Snakes I really

2:36:35 How come we don't talk about the dead Google guy who apparently was involved in making Google Glass? Yeah, he comes up. I mean this is what-I mean he got what was coming to him! You make this thing you made this Google Glass here We're gonna kill you with a hooker and heroin. They played the band? Yeah, they just let it play. Oh my god! Alright I want you to listen to the 911 call that Titchelman made last September I think my boyfriend overdosed or something like he's, he won't respond. Okay and why do you think it took an- Why do you think it's an overdose? Um because as I've said there is nothing else that could be. Okay. Accidental or intentional? I think definitely accidental. Accidental

2:37:26 All right, so Rio Pell's friend and former bandmate says that Rio Pell was into raising monkeys not shooting heroin Wait a minute. This story just gets better and better And it's your tech news There's no way he could perform any kind of use of heroin or drugs, anything. I'm a pot smoker and he would always get on about smoking pots not good for you. He was really health conscious and being doing heroin? No freaking way! Another twist in the case is if there could be another one. The yacht where police say Tittleman helped the Google executive shoot heroin, then stepped over his body finished her glass of wine and left without calling for help. CNN affiliate Kron or KRON reports that yacht is for sale for $345,000. By the way I was watching this with Eric and he's punched out to give him credit on this when he says wow that was a long way to go for an ad to sell a yacht

2:38:31 Yeah, good point. But no this they had that guess it did the guy the Google guy had his boat was filled with cameras and So does idiot woman this story? It's something wrong with the story Do we know anyone who actually knew this guy? You're a little bit more ingrained in the Silicon Valley. Google is a locked vessel, it is a closed shop they do not let the media do anything you can know a few people at Google and go there and have lunch with them you can hang out if you want to but nobody's talking about nothing that's very close its almost secretive

2:39:09 They don't have any real forward-looking press operation. You have to send requests in, everybody does and then you get tourist notes back it's a really horrible place. But it's almost like there's a cover up that the guy was a smack junkie The local stories played that. Everybody's making it look like she killed him and she murdered him when sounds like he was just having crazy ass sex with a crazy ass hooker who had crazy ass horse And killed him. Yeah, and it's dropped dead she said well I'm glad that's over with Let me have a damn That's the item thought he passed out to I mean you don't know whatever the case was She's done this couple times in that I was listening to that voice where she made the phone call and it was seems pretty sketchy But yeah, but as tech news at least we have something to talk about news. You know horrors All right, I have one final thing but it's just a thought since we don't really have

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Gamifying Amateur Radio, Ham Radio Apps

Adam Curry proposes a "billion-dollar idea" to gamify amateur radio by creating modern, game-like interfaces for digital communication modes. He argues that ham radio has languished since the 1950s and needs to be rebranded for the "maker" generation using Arduinos and Raspberry Pis. Curry envisions a system where users "shoot down" signals or interact with satellites through a World of Warcraft-style interface.

ham radio· amateur radio· arduino· raspberry pi· gamification

2:40:12 There is no tech news, but I can actually...I have a billion dollar idea and i want to give that away on this show. Of course I do- Of course, I value for value. Well, I have some ideas about how we can protect our upside in this and it came to me after listening and watching this report 300 simulated plane crash victims on the runway at SeaTac. I have a collarbone injury my chest is coming out

2:40:49 These volunteers are putting first responders through their paces, each with a specific role they're playing. I have a compound fracture of the leg and i'm screaming for help and trying to find my purse This kind of mass casualty drill is required by the feds for the airport to keep its certification And it's also great practice for us that we can close down an entire runway and actually walk through the process with all our first responders And these volunteers say spending the day laying on the runway is worth it if someday it saves someone's life. The drill will be going on until at least one this afternoon, so maybe if you're headed to the airport right now to catch a flight don't be taken off guard if you see that dramatic scene going on right now back to you. All right learning from history did prevent things in the future Theron thanks so much all right

2:41:38 Alright, so this is these drills and they have these crisis actors. And it gives people a very real world experience and this is now commonplace in their school, in the schools where we have active shooter drills... The whole country is crazy with making it as realistic as possible! It hit me Amateur radio. And John, here comes the... it's a maybe not a billion dollar idea right off the bat but I think hundreds of millions of dollars could possibly make Here we go from gamifying amateur radio and let me explain what i mean First of all what do these guys they do these emergency nets where they're like okay in real emergency here on Saturday night at 11 we're going to check-in and make sure we all know how to communicate

2:42:29 They should have ham radio guys with like real, like you know with real situations scripted But you know like realistic sound effects people screaming in the background and stuff and they're like okay We need some we need help over here And we need to bring the choppers in. Have these guys really really do a real drill have them involved in these drills right now The problem with ham radio is It is... they've stopped innovation in 1952. And I was talking to a developer, this guy Andrea in Italy and he does an app for ham radio for these digital modes and I want you take look at some screenshots just so you can see what I'm talking about You can see this John if you go to hamshots dot noagendanotes dot com

2:43:26 HamShots.NoAgendaNotes.com, are you there? No Okay I just want you to take a look You'll see I have ham radio screenshots Do ya have it? I'm getting there You'll see the KX... Okay got ham radio screen shots Now you click on the first one and you see the KX3 companion app Okay And then you see like a waterfall as we call it with signals and then you see It's gobbledygook but that turns into actual text above Right? You see the frequency, then you see below that another link for the waterfall and you can see something looks like space invaders. But that's also... those are signals. Yeah And then the combo screen I mean look at this thing! Look at this screen we got like a spectrum analysis and you got these space invaders flopping down Why don't we develop these apps like games

2:44:24 like, you know like War of Worldcraft and all this stuff. World of Warcraft? World of Warcraft whatever Real games where you're shooting at these waterfalls Think of it as... You can do it as a complete computer game And you can play against each other people around the world but you have this added element Of the maker vibe where you have to build your transmitter. In order to participate, you have to have a transceiver and an antenna... All you need to do is create an app that essentially can be built with like Twitter interface You can do it complete game because it's just a network of communication signals

2:45:16 your dinky-ass technician's license, which you have of course I'm a general. You can already get on all of these...on HF bands! You have like on 40 meters, you're allowed certain uh...you're allowed to have certain permissions 10 meters specifically and anything on the higher frequencies and we could i mean the Arduino guys are all over this we just need to rebrand all these things and you can game and shoot down Transmitters in balloons, in drones. You could be fighting against the astronauts on the International Space Station... All of this is already happening! It's just instead of doing something cool with it

2:45:57 All these Ray Ham radio guys are going, yeah what's the weather? Yeah it's my signal report 59959 instead of I'm gonna shoot you or you know. Listen this could be cool so these are some Arduino projects and lots of people use Arduino APRS data logger no we need to rebrand that drone target locator and you could actually have a simulated drone strike QRSS beacon, extremely low-powered drone target locator. High voltage... Okay I'll let you go on and on but where are you talking about a billion dollars? Where's the billion dollars? The billion dollars is to create apps and interfaces that use the stuff that is already we even had this contest everything is already in place John

2:46:47 Everything is in place. It's just no one has done the new interface, they're doing the same- They're drawing pictures of old school radios with knobs on it that you manipulate with the mouse instead of making it into a game Then everyone would want to be on it Look we are going to get kicked off the internet anyway So why not be ahead of the game? And all you have to do is take this existing...it's digital and create new interfaces in your apps. We'll promote it, you give us a piece of the action! And we have the patent on it now because we've already discussed it here... we have prior art. Okay I guess You don't see it? No actually I don't Listen instead of a handheld walkie-talkie you call it a wearable Don't you see that's so easy

2:47:42 Yeah, okay. DTMF controlled SSTV camera? Webcam girls! Hello! It's so obvious that this needs to be done You're not seeing you have no vision I know you're the visionary No vision you don't see the oh man. I feel like I've completely missed and Miscommunicated this to you well. I'm looking at the one picture with all the aliens coming down is kind of interesting Okay, I'll have to conceptualize what you're telling me. You're gonna have to tell me more. Probably not on the show Well the point is

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

History of Radio, FCC Regulations, Digital Innovation

The hosts compare the current "Golden Age of the Internet" to the early days of radio in the 1920s before heavy regulation took hold. They lament the restrictive nature of modern amateur radio, which prohibits business talk and music, and the "stool pigeon" culture of operators reporting violations. Curry insists that digital innovation could allow for "under the radar" communication networks that the FCC would struggle to stop.

fcc· radio history· golden age of internet· bandwidth· innovation

2:48:27 There is a I believe that there is an entire segment of people who actually would listen to our show now. I'll tell you this well Let's back up to your original premise. I'm in total agreement This is a technology that has been allowed to languish since about 1950 or 48 for that matter. They don't let you do this, they don't let you do that... The amateur radio- You gotta remember amateur radio actually stems from the early radio days in the early 1900s from about 1918 to about 1925 and there's a lot of- There was like tons of magazines it was all hobbyists back then it was very much like their early computer days It was gonna save the world and everyone could communicate with everybody else And there were all kinds of gear and it was just fantastic

2:49:14 And you were, it was wide open. It was a wide open West like the internet is today get used to the fact that this is the golden age of the internet this isn't going to last any longer than the golden age of radio went on and I by that I mean the early days are radio not the 30's and 40's where all the radio plays were on in that period was very slowly they started tighten and tighten and tighten. Now you got not only the inability to do half the stuff you'd like to do on amateur radio if you could, but you can't play music, you can't talk about business, you can't do this, and then have to put your call letters out there every five minutes or somebody who's listening in was gonna turn you in because it's essentially a entire world of I would say stool pigeons

2:50:00 that are out there listening to your every move and reporting you because this is what's kind of their hobby. And it doesn't, you can't do certain digital things, you can't get a high-speed internet connection over ham radio. There's packet radio and some of these slow speed crazy things that are just only so good It's a very and it just and then they keep taking bandwidth away while we need this for some wireless thing or the phone company wants to so you can go away we're gonna run. Where signals up and down the wires that are out in front of your house is gonna screw up your hands single too bad It's a disaster. See, I see it exactly...I see only opportunity. I see the guys who are doing 250 milliwatt communications and tracking it back through the internet and are sending command you know controlled command codes which is all this is legal

2:50:55 According to ham standards all this stuff that you just talked about is the old school That's all the oldest screw those guys screw every single one of them They're all boring old and annoying and the new ham guys. They can be doing amazing things They can have apps communicating with each other in real time, and it's just a beautiful new element that you add to it where you know You have to build your little Arduino stack. You get your Raspberry Pi, put it all together, you put a wire out the window And yeah sure some guys will buy the big rigs But we all think you're dicks anyway and will try and jam your signal It's time to play

2:51:35 This thing needs... it's begging to be gamified. It's just begging! And we could do this under the radar in a year, we could have something completely cool going on that no one would understand how to stop You have a guy you know how to stop it. You have an FCC guy knocking on your door Do like a $10,000 fine sir? No no no not doing anything illegal It's all legal what do you mean? I don't like what you're doing Satan! I'm telling you it's a good idea alright. I will never bring it up again But you should for sure you will bring it up again Oh, I'm not going to now as long as you know okay As long as they don't what nothing What else we got we gotta fit rap

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

World Cup Finals, Geopolitical Predictions, Two Popes

The hosts discuss the World Cup final between Argentina and Germany, framed by the media as a "tale of two popes" (Francis and Benedict). Dvorak predicts a German victory for geopolitical reasons, suggesting it will solidify German power on the world stage. They dismiss the sport as an "opiate for the masses" but acknowledge its massive viewership in America.

world cup· argentina· germany· pope francis· pope benedict

2:52:20 Okay, so the World Cup I guess has already started. The finals of this is... You know what? I'm gun-shy and don't want to talk about anything anymore because... I'm going to stick with the theory Argentina wins. Yeah Well, I'm tired of people saying we don't know shit about soccer and so that's not the point you don't know what a striker is It's I thought this was good. I got a clip here Pope Benedict it was the German and there and I guess the Argentinian guy they got together and shook hands over this upcoming match And this was the kicker to the moment. I shunned Germany soccer is the most important sport And I've always been passionate about it. For me, there's nothing more important." The match has been pitched as a tale of two popes pitting Argentine Pontiff Francis against his predecessor Benedict. But the Vatican says the match starts too late even for football fan Francis. Benedict meanwhile is apparently not fussed about football

2:53:17 So Benedict, the German guy doesn't he's like the other guys a football fan. He's like what kind of a religious leader to be honest about it spiritual leader would ever admit to being a football fan? It says it's a rigged sport is that its its I don't know. It's like all sports there are Opiates for the masses well in this case joy sports But I'm not running the church now the other Pope you had it right You know what's up? What's the fuss yeah Well, whenever you have 7 million people in America watching anything it's a distraction moment so I'll be watching everything else.

2:53:54 This is too big now in America. I haven't watched any one of these matches Oh, really? Oh no So when somebody says oh you don't know anything about soccer or football I say yeah so what we're not predicting this game on based on our knowledge of the game We're doing it for geopolitical reasons and so I'll just say that Argentina's gonna win probably two to one they're all two-to-one except a one match and then That's that. I don't care, I'm not gonna watch the game there is a good baseball game on Well as you know i am from the future and it's very horrible but Germany wins And this solidifies their power and they will become the adversary of the world for the third time This is the tipping point Actually its not the third time if you go back far enough Its more than three It about fifty Why are always those guys?

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Show Outro, Moving Logistics, Final Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode by discussing the logistics of Curry's move and the difficulty of scheduling Time Warner cable installations. They promote the show's search engine and show notes before signing off for the final time from the Travis Heights hideout. The episode ends with a recurring clip about being a "rule follower."

time warner· moving· show notes· search engine· sign-off

2:54:52 They just like it, they enjoy it. It's part of their culture. Alright and the next show we do will be from The New Place Yeah that's exciting If all goes according to plan You want to do a test run or anything? I guess you don't have... Well no I'll have too I mean it's not just go to them Call testing center, you know. No but these crazy Time Warner guys man it's like you cannot book a transition more than one week or ten days in advance so I have to have been calling every two weeks to move my appointment

2:55:32 That makes any sense. Yeah, oh yeah so in other words you get the appointment so now they're locked in and now you can push it as opposed to making it from scratch and not getting it on time? But I called last month and said I want to be on the 16th No, I can't go past the 5th of July What do you mean? Well I can't book that far in advance Okay...I don't know why So I'm thinking of going back to this website, the maccoyshop.com which has all the medals and stuff you can get for the EU. There's a bunch of cool stuff we can get. I'm gonna buy...I'm gonna give myself a medal

2:56:11 I just want a sash. I think a sash is... I'm definitely getting the sash, but they're pretty expensive. Maybe we should have Mimi make one? A sash is... Is Mimi handy that way? Yeah yeah she could make a sash Really?! Yeah! I didn't know that Just like this too you wouldn't know the difference it would be a lot cheaper But it wouldn't be official it has to have the uh... Ah bullcrap who cares There's something about the official... Let's put an No Agenda challenge coin at the bottom Oh yea I can do a sash with a whole bunch of challenge coins. Yeah, like flair. Flair! It's European flare everybody They got a couple different they have an alderman slash they have a mayor slash Slash? Sash So there's more than one kind of sash available. I like the Aldermen one. How many know what an alderman is Uh...I've seen it on uh..the show Chicago so i know exactly what an alderman is Does he wear a sash oh There's a different kind of sash you can- A hip model

2:57:16 Around your hip and then there's a bunch of cores that sag. Alright everybody We'll see the state of the world on Thursday, and we will bring you the best analysis we can of everything Please remember us as we do need your support at Dvorak org slash na show notes as always at 634 dot NA show notes calm and try out search dot NA show notes calm that thing is phenomenal Coming to you from the last for the last time here from the Travis Heights hideout in the drone star state in The morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm still looking at this website. I'm trying to decide whether should take the shield with the Flemish lion or the shield with the wall and cock I'm John C Dvorak will talk to you on Thursday right here on no agenda

2:58:09 So if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.