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00:00 Whatever the police tell you to do, news organization. Do it! Adam Curry John C. Devorah It's Thursday April 17 2014 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 609 This is no agenda Breaking News Nothing has happened We do not know what will happen next Now a picture of small submarine sitting on a pier Here in FEMA Region 6 Travis Heights Hat out in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Pacific Northwest By the way, have you all paid your taxes? You should have. I'm John C DeVore actually. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Yeah, I did that unhappy business... So here is the deal. Uhh..I am here at the Pacific Northwest Hangout Yes And Mimi is not anywhere to be seen now where she is Can I ask a question before you get into this? I can't find The Dinger The Dinger?! You mean that dinger? Yeah, I have a dinger up here Oh no! Wait okay so Mimi isn't around

00:59 It's around and she's around. She's on the acreage or something. She's on the property Is she on the property Lord I'm not devoid of sleep I've always wanted to ask you so does it does Mimi maintain a presence for you up there like a toothbrush? I have everything here Yeah, I don't have that really pack at all except they need I need to bring This yeah Thank goodness, otherwise I'd have nothing to throw in there because there's no dinger. So you have clothes up there and is your toothbrush... It's like my house! I would have clothes up here. Well, you're not there very often. Depends on the time of year. I'm not going to be up here when we have 80 degree temperatures in California and it's storming out there. Right right right And the toothbrush? Is all dusty do you have like... I have a electric toothbrush that I bring back and forth everywhere I go Oh okay so you don't have a toothbrush there You carry one

01:56 I, my electric toothbrush. I'm not gonna have a bunch of these are expensive You got it for free from our knight This is the specific toothbrush that was given to me I know! From our Knight Yeah and i have it too its the sonic yeah thanks and it's not the normal one you can get I don't know where you even buy that one uh... specialist one oh really? yeah because I bought couple of these in this is nothing this is a little more high-end I know that whenever i get my teeth cleaned, my healthcare professional says hmm sonic brush. Oh really? Yeah. Because it needs a certain pattern I guess. Well no she said I can always tell when someone uses uh because they have subsonic the what the dentist has is that's like that's the same idea only hardcore but if it's subsonic then we mean it's less good

02:47 You're talking about that high speed, that squealing thing they use? Yeah. I can't use that anymore It goes all the way into your brain it goes into your brain right like uh well holy moly Okay, I'm waiting for it. You can start the show! You want me to get it rolling? Well, I don't know what you got... Well uh The tit-for-tat in our war of the minds in Cold War version 2 2.0 Our man has made a sneak attack Putin did a podcast yesterday there on his

03:36 uh... what do you call it to on his a little less state media show there rt no not of the well with all of them when in russia was simulcast an arty with translation and but he does that you know this is interesting because uh... jc read buskill junior's pointing this out during the olympics you know we had such disdain for the russians there was never been in the latest like this where somebody was speaking in their native tongue and there was no translation right They just let the Russian go on you know what they said and they didn't have the courtesy to translate it I thought that was kind of rude. Well RT translated on-the-fly It was very cool, President Putin had his he's president is he president or what is he? He's president. Yeah, he's president Prime Minister's the one thats assigned yeah so he's uh... he sit at this big desk in the middle and its a call-in show and people are calling in asking questions. He's taking calls

04:31 and now he cut anyone off well no but but Snowden calls in what yeah with a video message I missed oh yeah it just came through on the wire this show already not all right so but i made a little compilation for you And it's very interesting because this was not a live call-in, this was pre-taped although they made it come across as if it was. A very amazing moment! A video message from Edward Snowden so you know unlike our American press conferences this one was completely set up

05:09 But so I cut it down to about two minutes and I cut out all this strenuous bullcrap you don't need to hear. Here's how it went down, the translation on RT which I thought was just a phenomenal piece of Ministry of Truth operations. Thank you! We've got really sensational and really outrageous video message from a person who actually revolutionized the world by revealing by licking the information. By licking it? By licking the information, Tim. I love that this is the equivalent of one at one of those chickies on like The Voice Christina Milian like well we have this really outrageous just oh Carson I can't believe a really outrageous video message from the guy who was licking me information

06:08 And here he comes. Now the video that you see is the same kind of video that we've been seeing from him consistently You know, like head and shoulders. Yeah webcam. Um yeah not much better than webcam uh black background bad chroma key for some reason I don't know why they just... Why are they keying him at all? Yeah i don't know but it was black background but it was pre-recorded and here's a little bit of his message. I've seen little public discussion of Russia's own involvement in the policies of mass surveillance so I'd like to ask you Does Russia intercept, store or analyze in any way the communications of millions of individuals?

06:53 And do you believe that simply increasing the effectiveness of intelligence or law enforcement investigations can justify placing societies rather than subjects under surveillance? Now, this question is... I mean, I'm so confused now. By the way the right answer would be yeah we would if we could! Well that's interestingly very much what the answer was but first i want to stay with this question Now you've asserted from day one that the Obama administration is P.O'd about them having Snowden, but of course there's... That's the only thing the Obama administration is mad about! The neocons who are grabbing Ukraine and Syria and we'll talk about that in a minute they're on to a whole different game so where this fits in the theater it's a little mind-boggling

07:48 The question is clearly set up. What does Snowden, now he works for Putin? He's actually supposed to be working for some web company there. Well here comes the answer... Okay, so Mr Putin I guess you understand the question overall. We have seen you talk to world leaders and Mr Snowden as well but I will try to translate. The American version of English is a little different from the kind of English that I'm used

08:24 Yes, this is American slang. This below-level slang I'm not so used to that Mr Snowden you Are a former agent as spy? I used to be working for an intelligence service We are going to talk one professional language first of all I love this hey as a spy do a spy Ed Let me tell you what's going down. And listen to his answer, it is really quite revealing at least in what he is trying to communicate. Our intelligence efforts are strictly regulated by our law so how special forces can use this kind of special equipment as they intercept

09:11 phone calls or follow someone online and you have to get a court permission to stalk at particular... I love that translation. If you want to stalk someone, I guess that's what they really said in Russian yes if you want to stalk someone need a court order person we don't have a mass system of such interception. And according to our law, it cannot exist. Of course we do some efforts like that but we don't have a mass scale uncontrollable efforts like that I hope you won't do that and we don't have as much money as they have in the States and we don't have these technical devices that they have in the states We don't have the money! And we don't have the gear

10:07 This is great. What do you think the point is of this? Why would he be doing this other than just to needle, needle Obama just to poke a needle in his eye I think it's just that yeah at least this is a little back This is a little thing going on in the background We already know that most of this that's going on between Russia and United States Let me play this clip which is a short clip And its kind of summarizes things Which is the corporation clip corporations still work with Russia. US led sanctions against Moscow aren't stopping Western companies from pairing up with Russian ones to drill for fossil fuels in the Arctic, the polar seabed is said to hold about a quarter of the world's untapped oil and gas reserves but while it's business as usual for corporations some Western governments are stoking military tensions on Russia's northern borders. Mary Portnire explains bit more

11:04 Yeah, we know that Siemens was visiting Putin the CEO of Siemens and you know today don't worry man We're gonna continue our deal with you. Yes So there's a thing this is theater And so I don't know that this probably wasn't meant because he first to get snowed in on is enough than needle You know what Snowden doing? But seriously doesn't this kind of play into the theory That everyone's all in the same boat that it's almost like Obama and Putin had a phone call which they did. They talk about once every two weeks, hey I got a good one dude get Snowden on and have him ask something then you say we don't have the money or all those cool things you guys have. I mean why not? Here's America's answer to this

11:55 This is Jen Psaki doing her little spiel there. She's the standard spokeshole for the State Department, although not the cutest We like Marie Harf better You know they look so much the same No no no no no Marie and she's been wearing like cute little pink tops and stuff Okay well I think it can go either way They probably do that with each other. Here's a this is fun He also said that there was absolutely no Russian intelligence forces personnel No forces inside of the Ukraine and so on itself we believe that the Russians for Mr.. Exactly lying

12:34 Uh, Sayeed I would point you to the fact fiction document we put out yesterday that outlines a number of the claims and what the facts are on the ground. So what he's saying is basically fiction? I would point you to that. Oh well so... Fact Fiction! Yes i went to the fact fiction document they put out but I think we should review some points in this fact fiction uh yes the document is titled Russian Fiction The Sequel 10 more false claims about Ukraine. This is a State Department document, like this is news for children now? And at the top of this document it says no amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong. A quote from President Barack Obama on March 26th Russia continues to spin a false and dangerous narrative to justify its illegal actions in Ukraine

13:26 The Russian propaganda machine continues to promote hate speech and incite violence by creating a false threat in Ukraine that does not exist? We would not be seeing the violence and sad events that we've witnessed this weekend without the relentless stream of disinformation and Russian provocateurs fostering unrest in eastern Ukraine. Here are 10 more false claims Russia is using to justify intervention in Ukraine with the facts that these assertions ignore or distort! My goodness, John... This is fighting words right here

14:07 Yeah, this is pretty funny. This document and I'd like to the second or third one they've done yeah And I'd like to remind everybody before this all happened the leaked phone call from Victoria noodleman Just want to remind everybody how it really went down with this was this is a EU USA putsch but okay now we need to put out fact Number one, Russia claims Russian agents are not active in Ukraine. Fact! The Ukrainian government has arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents I love this Suspected? Yes the government of Ukraine had information that Russian GRU officers were providing individuals in Kharkiv and Donetsk with advice and instructions so they're providing advice unlike our consultants Oh you mean unlike

15:04 Saki or was it yeah, was it a side? No is Newland in the Ukraine handing out doughnuts and then doing deals on the side forget Forget isn't that the same forget new land. How about Brennan this the chief of the Central Intelligence Agency who was they caught him in Kiev And the Russians of course said, hey your guy your secret service guy is in Kiev and this is not okay. What are you doing? You're trying to reinforce some stuff you're blaming us for everything? And Karni

15:41 A spokesman for the White House, beautiful setup. He points to the AP and asks the questions and he then rattles off the written statements. There have been some reports in Russian media that John Brennan was in Ukraine over the weekend can you confirm that he was there? I love it just yeah we know the questions are provided with the answers up front So Associated Press, who was called on first in this press conference was given this question. Well we don't normally comment on the CIA director's travel but you know maybe for this time we'll give you a statement since he was caught! But given the extraordinary circumstances in this case and false claims being leveled by the Russians at the CIA we can confirm that the director was in Kiev What false claims?

16:25 You mean they don't kill people with drones and they don't, you know assassinate world leaders? Is that the false claim? I have... this is astonishing when Carney did this. This weekend as part of a trip to Europe Senior level visits of intelligence officials are a standard means of fostering mutually beneficial security cooperation including US Russian intelligence I love how he reads this from his book. collaboration going back to the beginnings of the post-Cold War era, huh? U.S and Russian intelligence officials have met over the years To imply that u.s.. Officials meeting with their counterparts is anything other than in this same spirit is absurd Absurd yes mark it's just absurd

17:07 On April 12th, armed pro-Russian militants seized government buildings. Not saying Russian military just pro-Russian militants Many were outfitted in bulletproof vests camouflage uniforms with insignia removed and carrying Russian designed weapons like AK 74's it says which I think is a great very cool that they put that in their document It would be 47 you numbskull But the document literally has 74s. Yeah, no I'm looking at it. Let's see what else do we have? Russia claims pro-Russia demonstrations are comprehensive... There is an AK-74 Oh there is? What does it look like? It looks like an AK 47 only got a shorter barrel and then some other pegas on there that are more interesting Then maybe I may be wrong then Alright yeah but you know here it is let me just read this little line here from some gun nut site

18:03 The AK-47 and the AK-74 are both Russian made assault rifles designed by Kalashnikov. And the AK name blah, blah, blah we know that. The years they were designed...the AK-47 was design in 47, the AK-74 is 74 it's a newer gun. Oh okay alright I stand corrected It's a newer design But if you're gonna do a propaganda document You know do something that we recognize Yeah they should just say...right its bull crap anyway They might as well just say AK-47 That what we know and love Russia claims pro-Russia demonstrations are comprised exclusively of Ukrainian citizens acting of their own volition like the Maidan movement in Kiev. Fact! This is not the grassroots Ukrainian civic activism of the Euromaidan movement, which grew from a handful of student protesters to hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians from all parts of the country and all walks of life no involvement from us... No donuts from Victorian noodlemen or anything like that

19:00 Fact! There's evidence that many of these so-called protesters are paid for their participation in the violence and unrest. So this fact document... They're projecting everything we do. Yeah, this fact document... These guys must be working for free We don't know This fact document is uh... You should use it in the show notes Oh yeah I think you call this America's answer but I think your completely wrong on this because I actually have a clip of America's answer to this whole problem And it turned out to be on The View. Oh no! Ah, does it need any further setup? Well this is Jenny McCarthy talking. Uh I'm playing. Lady um but also he's very happy because he's happy for me... Because I just got a gift!

19:58 What happened? I just got engaged. Oh, and the set of other fucking hands goes crazy Besides Barbara Walters grabbing her and saying, oh baby the whole audience standing O. Wow! This was 10 points above anything Tom Cruise ever did and you'll never see it again. Okay... That's America's answer to this problem. No you're right however on The NO Agenda Show we look a little further than the view

20:52 after we... Why bother? With a scene like this. Zbigniew Brzezinski Yes, Zbigniew Brzezinski he has his answer as he was called on to his daughter's show Have you ever noticed Brzezinski so Mika Brzezinski is his daughter and she's on the Morning Joe Show sponsored by Starbucks and whenever he's on You notice that? No, I've never noticed this. I don't watch Morning Joe. I watched The View. I think we have to convince Putin that what he is doing is really risky to Russia itself, and they've taken some steps in that direction but I think they could be intensified and I think talking not doing much but at least talking to the Ukrainians about if the need arises providing them with some defensive weaponry would make sense it would send a signal yeah the Ukrainians did ask us for help

21:53 in that regard. Do you know what our answer has been? We offered them pre-packaged food for their soldiers. Well, you can't win a military conflict by throwing pancakes at somebody. He's good! Yeah he's good isn't he?! Oh yeah he's hilarious I've been reading more and more because i'm so interested in the German connection You know that Ukraine in 1918, Ukraine was essentially kind of formed by German military for food. It was the breadbasket of Europe it was really all you know all this food that needed to be grown there

22:34 And this Donetsk region wasn't even a part of initially of Ukraine at the time. But then they discovered there was all the coal was there, so they said screw it! Well that's Ukraine too because we need some of that coal All this is First World War stuff and now we're back and you know I just got to wonder Germany fits into this somehow beyond the economic well maybe it isn't beyond the economic part I don't know Samantha Power Who is, now this woman she creeps me out. No she's totally creepy and she's floating around the world and she looks like a Berkeley hippie Yeah An old Berkeley hippie And she's always wearing like a t-shirt that sleeves are way too short and it says she's skinny yeah And her hair looks like she never was washed in their life Yeah And she's weird to listen to

23:28 She is also the one who... wasn't she when in 2008 didn't she say Hillary Clinton's a monster and then but she was in the, she was working in the Obama administration then she got kicked out and she got brought back in somehow. There's some there's a weird... I might be right about that. Yeah there's a weird history with her because she would she was kicked out or she resigned And then she was brought back in, and she is married to Cass Sunstein who also he's an advisor. He's a professor and he's the guy that wrote the white paper which he can't remember anymore. Yeah where it said... Right! She's the one who says she's a monster?

24:10 She was on the 2008 campaign. Hillary's campaign, yeah? No no she was on... Was she under Hillary? I thought she was a senior advisor to Barack Obama. Obama and then but then she oh that's what that's right! She said she's a monster and then she had to leave because it wasn't sportsmanlike And it turns out you know come back in just a couple years later is all fine now regardless. She is not- Oh she's out, Hillary gets in. She is off and I think she's dangerous And here she is talking, because she's continuously trying to get more sanctions in the Security Council. She's our ambassador to the United Nations There are actually photographs of her and the Russian ambassador to the UN and she's standing next him kind of like... The guy is literally leaning back and has his hand out Like dude back up bitch

25:01 Like she's really intimidating and doing, I don't know of course it's photographic you know so-called evidence. So you don't really know but she's weird! She's getting in people's face And here's what she feels is so great about what we're doing, which I have to question if this is something we want to be doing at all or if we do why. have brought the ruble to an all-time low in terms of its value. The Russian stock market has depreciated by 20 percent, investors are fleeing and that's just on the basis of the sanctions we put in place up to this point. The president has made clear that depending on Russian behavior sectoral sanctions against energy banking mining could be on the table

25:50 And there's a lot in between. So I think we've seen that the sanctions can bite and if actions like the kind that we've seen over the last few days continue, you're going to see ramping up those sanctions. Okay! Sanctions can bite now what is the point of...and who wins when the ruble devalues to its lowest point in recent memory? The stock market is down 20%. Who was really benefiting it do the Germans benefit from that Who benefits? Yeah, well they're not really trading for their oil in rubles. No. The... Euros! Investors would benefit if the... They are trading gas in euros. Sorry? They're trading gas in euros Right and but the Germans do benefit if they are investors because of this markets down 20% that means a lot of stocks or good buys because these things don't stay that way. I mean the ruble kind of rebounded it a little bit

26:44 And there's a lot of people that benefit from these fluctuations. Speculators, people go short and there is money to be made when you do saber rattling I think a lot of the stuff that we see even though we don't talk about too much on this show...I think a lot of it is people creating panics in markets so they can buy and sell in advance I mean it seems to me that Putin could do all kinds of crazy things if he wanted to make a lot of money for Russia. Is he would short a bunch of peace stocks and then say something that was crazy, we're gonna bomb them! And then watch the things collapse and then sell? Now could this also have something to do with the G20 finance ministers like yeah we're going to set up our own system or do our own screw the US we don't need him will have our

27:33 Or a potential move towards SDR valuation? machinations by these these drinking clubs that get out of control because and a lot of the US, of course behind these things because we have to keep the petrol dollar stronger. We're gonna be totally toast right which so we have to be on the side of that mm-hmm and that's you know so when something threatens that we have to like do something like we're doing which is creating a ruckus And we're doing a good job on that. Well, you know that's one of the things we do well... Here's Tom Friedman this douche now what is he again? Is he a climatologist no I thought it was a climatologist because he seems to be speaking about climate a lot oh no wait he's in New York Times columnist right He's a columnist does he have any particular field of expertise that were aware of? Yeah he does economics Oh okay

28:28 So he was on Fareed Zakaria's I'm a Unconstitutional Douchebag on CNN show and he said the following which You know, so Friedman is in this new 12 or 9 part Showtime series about climate change Which is supposed to scare us all into yeah, it's been packing them in. Yeah handing over tax money To save our earth And here's how he crosses He goes from Russia to Syria, the climate change and back again. And he's on drugs. Frieda I'm going to ask you something Would you think i am a bad guy if I were hoping that Vladimir Putin turned off the gas in Europe?

29:17 Because, that's my secret hope. I believe if Putin turns off the oil and gas to Europe right now it would be the equivalent of the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo which is what launched the solar wind and efficiency industry We only got the first auto mileage standards after that! I think we are poised to take off. I hope you bought solar stocks last year because if you did they're all exploding And I don't have to tell you about Tesla stock...we just need a little push We just need Vladimir to do the right thing and turn the gas off. I'm happy to pay all of the energy bills for Ukraine because with impact it would have on the whole clean tech industry which is poised to take off now, would be just like 1973. You go Vlad! Give us... give it to us. Okay can I? I gotta throw a personal anecdote in here cause' I've watched this

30:11 I was around during the 70s when they had this situation occur and there were long lines. You had to wait in line to get gasoline because these OPEC douchebags screwed us in some sort of a scam And it was very similar to the scam that Enron ran on California where they were giving us brownouts and blackouts, and you'd get a brown out or black out. What the hell's going on? Oh well there are power plants down there had all these phony baloney reasons that this was going on it never made any sense to me and it is obvious something was going on behind the scenes that should have been resulting people going to jail So in the 70s you had this situation occur and so everybody went

30:48 with all kinds of solar panels and these other operations. There must have been a thousand startups just in California alone to put in... A lot of the impetus was these solar, these tubes glass tubes that were on the roof and the glass tubes are warmed by the sun and then you'd get warm water from that instead having to use your boiler Nice. Seriously, yeah within about I think by 1980 when this whole thing kind of the OPEC guys got back in line they all folded and I'm reminded of what's happened to Kleiner Perkins a great venture capital company that went all-in with green because they got Al Gore on their side and they'd all those funds lost money

31:34 This is an unbelievable cycle to me and it keeps coming and going, it's all bogus. What I recall... By the way let me sum up sorry for getting the point, in other words what he said about the 70s is bullcrap! It didn't start anything positive. In fact, you can even go back to the big cars You couldn't buy a big giant car like you know a Cadillac when they were big in the 70s it all became frowned upon it really hurt the US auto industry because we never were equipped to do little dinky cars and what it really amounted to Right if anything it gave the Japanese a leg up to bring in all their little Honda Civics Exactly Yeah I remember my uncle and the whole family

32:18 I don't know how this worked being a company guy and everything, but they all had Honda Civics like yeah it gets great gas mileage. Everyone's like great gas mileage! This is a shit car Yeah no they were all bragging about gas miles. I saw this happen all over the place And they didn't have air conditioning Right once things got back to normal It actually hurt that country Yes That whole episode. Fiedman is completely...I don't know what he's trying He's smoking something Yeah, it's... It hurt the country. When I was a kid- It didn't start solar or do anything and by the way let's go to Elon Musk in his car He has $35,000 in these bull crap credits for each one of those S's he sells You know someone mailed me and said that that's not exactly the number That's more like seven No, that's the little car

33:15 I can't, I'll get to it. I'll document this but it's beside the point. Let's look at Elon Musk's businesses he gets a subsidy for building the electric car in credits of some sort of carbon credits send me that guys letter and now I have do some work. Yeah oh boy! He gets, Space X You know, oh it's an independent this and that. It's all government money! Yeah. It's all government money now that one of the latest ones which is part of what Freeman saw about SolarCity so I had the SolarCity guy come by the other day SolarCity is another Musk's deal. So they put these panels up on your roof, you don't pay for any of this stuff you get a slightly lower bill and and they said well the real...the thing here is you've got to sign away all your federal subsidies something or other it's just some scam! It's government money! It's a scam we just don't know exactly where it is yet I don't know where the scam is? I would say this that

34:13 Musk's customers, including people who buy the S and you know the Tesla S, a great car. And people who go in to sign up for the SolarCity thing might benefit from Musk scamming but he's not scamming the public, he's not scamming his customers He's scamming the government and it's something admirable about that but at the same time this is taxpayer money Right Anyway Okay I'm just saying that Friedman's full of crap. And Mickey had this, she was the 5x7 expo I think i told you about and it's for good you know for a benefit and then you make little five by seven inch versions of art. Then then you fight for it anyway so he had just got his wife uh head said oh no and um now he's coming he has to park the car said there's valet parking yeah nobody just got his tesla and he wants to park in himself okay? So the guy comes in and the first thing I say of course is where

35:30 Where's your extension cord? Yeah, I'm like. I'm like mr.. Man humor here and in you and the answer is like Yeah, this car is so full of cool tech. I look at my iPhone tells me it's 110 degrees and I can turn on the air-conditioned before you get to the crash Whoa easy dude Wow yeah, see so use ice you kept the Audi in case you need drive to Houston right? I can make it to Houston Yeah, but you'd have to charge there This is going to come back to bite people so hard once these things are 10 years old and you know how the batteries are all crapped out, and you got to make a decision. It's going to be tough. And the South African dudes that would be Elon Musk and what's-the-guy's name? Bota over there at Sequoia Capital they're the ones laughing! The South Africans they're stealing our money anyway with regards... I want to stop but you right i've noticed

36:35 oddly douchey about the Tesla guys. I mean, they drive too close to you when they tailgate? They have a certain weird vibe. What is that? I have no idea, i noticed the same thing but i can't put my finger on it. It's not like... I'll be the first to say them. People we all think are douchebags or the Porsche people Right well the Tesla S if you look at its beautiful car Oh it's gorgeous But even if had the money I don't think would buy it Why would I want this? Jaguar is prettier It looks like a Jaguar. When I first saw the test on the road, which was about over a year ago... ...I thought it was a Jaguar because it has the same... Yeah but the wrong Jaguar. It's the big one yeah? I'm an E-type guy if there is not any type of not interested in Jaguars. Oh man that's the one you want!

37:24 Anyways back to what's going on with our donations I've given up on any dream Which is probably why I hate guys who have these cars. Yeah, I can't afford it I hate you now that would that would probably be the It could be just jealous jealousy should be a Tesla guy no way No, I was a Rolls guy I had a Rolls Royce when i had money. That's first! But, well...I drove it into New York City every day and I had a Grey Poupon in the glove box. Driving along sometimes you have to exchange grey poupons Yeah people would literally say hey douchebag got any grey poupon? And I'd reach over and say why yes I do. I know I was that guy alright You were a dick So now Kerry there is a clash going on this is interesting to watch

38:20 The US military doesn't really want to go into Syria, yet John Kerry really wants to go into Syria and this has got to be part of this F-Russia thing. And now he has according to the New York Times, he has now been... here's the Times literally says huddling, huddling he is Mr. Kerry that big watermelon head freaky skull and bones Yalie, has been huddling with retired generals Petraeus and Jack Keane These guys of course together were the architects of the surge in Iraq in 2007. And Petraeus works for KKR, he's a consultant. You know these are big firms that... What? The private equity company? Yeah! Oh yeah! How does he do with them?! They got tons of businesses they buy out their buyout guys I'm sure they have Halliburton like businesses

39:22 So I find this, this i find a little scary. Ukraine? I think we're going to be okay we're not going to see any fighting there but something could happen in Syria We know that our friends our NATO allies the Turks were looking at into creating false flag which was exposed by one of those you know put your phone calls on YouTube is the new state craft But when you look at it John, we've got Kerry. We've got Nudelman. We've got her husband Robert Kagan and his brother Frederick Kagan the Iraq people who took us into Iraq. We've got Jack Keane, Petraeus... These are some... This is a cabal! Yeah what is Obama doing working with these? Nothing! He's not- Obama is not working with them this is what I'm saying.

40:12 He's playing this little game with Putin like, oh you got Snowden? Well I'm gonna write a document with 10 points and i'm going to get engaged to the girl on The View. No no this is...this is a whole different group that's doing this man! This is... Have a little background clip. You're not frightened by any of this?! No. I have a little background, what difference does it make? I have a little background clip, um... A Syrian update clip but i want to set up this is Seymour Hersh who's re-emerged Oh yeah oh and has been ignored despite his award winning journalistic career He got lots of creds so he signed of all things democracy now because they're the only people that'll put him on talking about the phony baloney rocket attack that we almost bombed Syria over

41:01 And then he also just makes an observation about Turkey and it's just like, you know nobody... He wouldn't be on NBC or CNBC or MSNBC or Fox. And so I don't know why we're talking about multiple launch rockers and these are homemade weapons. And it seems very clear to most observers, as they say even to the UN team that did the final report, the UN because of whatever rules they have wasn't able to say who filed what? They could just describe the weapons and never make a judgment. But I can tell you, I quote somebody from inside that investigation unit who is very clear that the weapons were fired were homemade we're not Syrian army. This is asked an answer these are arguments that go on this

41:45 I assume it's a blog. I don't know the blog, but this has been going on... And Turkey's interest if it were the case in pushing the red line and supporting an attack that would be attributed to Assad? Their interest in getting the U.S. to attack Syria? Oh my God, totally of great interest because Erdogan has put the Prime Minister of Turkey has put an enormous amount of effort and funds and others including his intelligence service at disposal. He and Bashar are like loggerheads he wants to see him go

42:22 and he's been on the attack constantly supporting the most radical factions there, and also I must say is also supporting the secular factions. The people who seriously want to overthrow Bashar don't want to see a jihadist regime they just want to see it a government that's not controlled by one family you know? Exactly but this whole thing may be really of Turkish scheme Well, which would mean it's a NATO scheme. It can't just be Turkish although they have big issue with the Kurds and... They've got lots of issues! They seem to have a lot of issues don't they? Those Turks I tell you You know they could foment trouble it's a big country Yeah and their very important

43:15 Well, first of all they think they're more important than they are because they used to be important. Used to be the center of the universe. Yes Istanbul. The Ottoman Empire Constantinople that was THE center of the universe we have I think clearly identified the Ottomania of bringing back the third wave of the Ottoman Empire which you know which included all this turf i believe Wasn't all of this part of the Ottoman Empire back in the day? Oh, yeah. No now all the Middle East a whole that is huge Meanwhile not a word about our president's visit to Saudi Arabia I mean literally almost nothing it must have something must not have gone well It might've gone very well Mmm, I don't know if something goes well Then everyone's always touting and how great it is And there's I subscribe to all the RSS feeds for the White House There's really nothing Nothing at all

44:10 Well, we have to call it a secret meeting. Other than... well Bondar got fired this is news you know who Bondar is right? No! Who's Bondar and who? Prince Bondar he was the intelligence guy he was Bush's main connect to the Saudis senior and junior and he was really kind of like the go-between the head of the Saudi intelligence. Oh that yeah right, okay Right and so I think he's deemed as not being successful at something So he got fired which means they'll show up somewhere else in that some drinking club thing AKR Yeah possibly Possibly Do you think these characters John? It's like Carrie and Noodleman and Kagan and Petraeus do you think they

45:11 Do they really believe that what they're doing is right? That this is good. I believe that they do, I think they're sincere it's the only way it works so well and They must be doing it from a patriotic standpoint, I guess. I think you are slightly deluded Well yeah but they get you know I don't know it's uh it's disturbing to me and the probably the most disturbing thing is that our president, our commander-in-chief seems to be completely on the sidelines about this. It's just he has... Disturbing actually yeah and that this is when we need some real leadership because I'm I don't like these guys and anyone

45:55 who knows anything historically and in the past two decades of how the United States, forget how 9-11 happened that we were then pushed into Iraq is the same people. The name Frederick Hagen that is one of the guys who architected this whole idea I'm surprised you haven't heard from Wolfowitz Wow, I bet you if you Google him. I bet she's around. I bet he is doing something hold on Wolfowitz where is he? Let me see now let me say let me say but I'm gonna do a quick new search. Let's see Wolfowitz Hmm now He's quiet look at him on the you want to look his The guy would keep track of wolfowitz would be that Wiki maintainer. Oh yeah horse

46:49 That'd be my guess. He's just a horrible looking person, let's see... Who else are we seeing? Signed as a World Bank Group due to scandals. Report is a protracted battle over stewardship prompted by his involvement in high-paying promotion for his campaign. Personal history what's he doing now maybe he maybe he's overstepped this boundary Maybe he might be in the penalty box. Well, before we get thrown into the penalty box I desperately need to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak when the morning of you Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there and to our artists Thank You comic strip blogger for our episode art 4 6 0 8

47:45 It's funny after all the bitching he does when we finally chose his art. I didn't get like a whole flood of love Hey, thanks for choosing my art complainer typical Later yeah We enjoy all the art that our artists make for us know which in art generator comm a reminder? We also need art today or you know really today two pieces are for episode 6 1 0 this is the clip show Which a Ramsey came put together for us and actually with John and I had a rare like three line interaction on email and this is the concept of a clip show

48:22 It's actually really, really good for all these people who are trying to catch up. Yeah I was... that comes from Dame Tanya in our actress uh-huh in New York also waitress which is what most actresses do and Buzzkill Jr and his wife went to Corso which is a restaurant restaurant in Berkeley where she works yeah different Dame Tanya yeah And I gave her bottle of wine Yes. From the cellar? Yes And it was Passover dinner or something, Seder and so she claimed to be kind of embarrassed by getting this bottle of wine to them because she's two shows behind and she feels bad about it Yeah An I'm noticing from the email well I just heard in this show like I just listened to 605 and blah blah blah to 605 we're on 609

49:17 And I think a lot of people, because the shows are long and we're having less commuters or people moving closer to their work. I don't know why... I think the opposite is true of that. There's just too much show for them! I think for a lot of people and so now this clip show will allow them at least catch up because they do not have to listen to the country. They still listening to the show. So people who love listening to the show you can use this to hit other people in the mouth with it Or you can just listen to the clip show and enjoy all those great moments that you've already heard. And then everyone else can catch up, and by the time we're at Thursday everyone should have had enough time to catch up with their episodes... maybe So we had something in a clip show I want to follow-up on

50:08 Okay, remember the discussion about lesbian bed death that you were not aware of at the time Yeah vaguely became aware of yeah. You I think you made me aware of this yes Yes And then you said Because I read it I edited the clip show a little bit too you said oh I'm gonna talk to my two Lesbian friends and find out if they know anything about this or whatever something ah yes never brought it up again What did they say? Oh, you know why and their dead um What? I don't know. I don't remember, what is the lesbian bed death? That's where one woman has to take a bunch of testosterone and grow a mustache Oh and then she dies

50:53 No, so they can keep their sex life going because oh there's sex life dies. Yes Yeah, there's sex life died hmm cheesy I don't know no I don't remember and the only reason it comes to mind to me because I was over at Monterey foods And there were two there's a lot of lesbians in there shopping and one of them was just like outrageous mustache Which I guess is some sort of announcement? I'm the one taking testosterone um I guess I don't know it's messaging I don't really care but So, but I remember listening to this and you were gonna do a follow-up and you never did. I'm sorry well I am I shall um no that's okay i shall follow up well neither of them take testosterone as far as I know uh even ask them okay No but I'm sorry I haven't been out to Los Angeles You know what you're going to call him hey it's Adam how are you doing yeah hey Hey are you taking what you said? You were gonna do is all I'm telling you Yeah It's like

51:47 Hey, yeah. Hey lesbians how you doing? Yeah listen if you heard of this thing we take testosterone and then you don't want to have sex anymore Alright let's thanks. Let me also think only thank everyone in the chat room no agenda stream No agenda chat net and yes the way We run this show is only by true truly from viewers like you Unlike I keep seeing PBS Viewers like you know your nods all your money comes from ads And you and You listen to NPR the whole day, it's brought to you by... if you say brought to you by that's not underwriting anymore. They're just saying it now, brought to you buy carbonite! As far as I'm concerned they're double dipping Yes First they are taking the advertising money by the ton and this is an unbelievably impossible operation No no they are triple dipping They also tax exempt

52:43 Yeah, they're taking everything. And they're taking money from- It's a total scam! For a tote bag This is what the money that you send them- A tote bag? Yeah it's just to bind you They don't really care about your money Their laughing at you Look at these idiots sending them a tote bag, a mug Yes, these mugs are great looking And for $150 donation You can get a DVD of this show Really?! So luckily the people who support us do it because they get the true value from it and they're not sending their money to NPR or PBS. And I think that's fine, Bill & Melinda Gates can handle that just perfectly

53:24 We got a lot of good contributions on this show after three shows in a row with very little input. And let's start by thanking a few people including Stephen Woullard who came in with $850 from Victoria, BC which by the way I may be visiting on Sunday. Victoria is the best place if anyone travels around You try to go to Victoria Canada, it's just outrageously gorgeous. Anyway he says you couldn't ignore... what? What is the beginning of this? I just have could ignore them no longer No, I have in the morning. John, yeah, make your spreadsheet a little bigger. In the morning, John and Adam Green, this is Ken and ADVIA. Make it bigger! I heard you're pleased for more support and could ignore them no longer. This donation will complete my knighthood of the spinner order. Yeah he's on the spectrum

54:22 I would like to call out Ryan as a douchebag. I hit him in the mouth several years ago and he proceeded to listen to every back episode and never donated! Wow... Can i please get some Bitcoin jingle karma, and a Coke Brothers stinger? Good work gentlemen radio guy. Give it good work gentlemen for God's sake let's get Club 33 back up and running it makes me laugh out loud Yeah, then we'll learn my accounting. I've just made a previous note that he's got his accounting yeah alright Alright, let's do this for him and now no agendas Bitcoin bonanza this week Taylor Swift Elon Musk and Satoshi Nakamoto

55:20 This week on Bitcoin Bonanza. Coke, brother! You've got karma. Yeah That's a nice sequence I like that yeah, it's cute Thank you Steven sir sure sir knight of the spinning order Sir David Foley actually the Archduke of Silicon Valley and some other thing he owns half the state And it also sells 4K TVs in advance of the curve. Yeah, which is 4kspecial.com Use the code NA! Yeah you get to save some money on these screens I think he's got 50s... 40s? 50s and I think he has a big one maybe

56:06 whatever the case. ITM, John and Adam, Sirius speaking from my designated First Amendment zone I'd like to thank you for your courage seriously i hope you guys enjoyed well deserved break in close find four hundred twenty dollars to celebrate Sunday 420 and three three three dot 3-3 towards the bring back Rubicon fund yeah I don't think we want Rubicon actually come back No, it would be bad. Yeah, they probably screw you in it They would ruin it that would rule they wouldn't find some way to ruin it because I think now that they saw what the show Was about yeah? Who put this on the air Thank You very much sir David Foley Grand Duke of Silicon Valley from your arch as a great Archduke from your designated First Amendment zone He sent us a picture of the designated First Amendment Zone That is assigned

56:59 Sir Wire of the Hidden Jewel, James Pyres in Iscondido California 33712. In the morning to you John and Adam please accept my donation of 333 plus $4.12 for my son's birthday. EJ give a karma to all my friends Natalie for her wedding EJ and Serafina and my amazing gorgeous wife Jasmine. You're supposed to send picture that's what usually say there. Yes I'm sorry Send pictures. Please play all the mac and cheese jingles for the kids, there's only two! Please give the douchebag to the Bureau of Land Management. And any federal entity with a TLA three-letter acronym. Another one...

57:46 Also, please stop the excuses on Club 33. I deconstructed this months ago You don't have to be ashamed that Mimi and Mickey shut it down It happens to be the best of us. Thanks for your courage John and Adam Please step up all you boners out there Now I have to say I'm just taking your word for it because i have nothing else to go on that we got this whole problem with the stage collapsing and termite damage, and then we didn't get the permits. Whatever! I will say... It's hard to run a business My wife doesn't like The Club 33 at all She thinks its creepy when you do it

58:23 Because she likes you, I think she probably kind of loves you. She doesn't like this guy! She does not like that guy who's talking about the girl on girl action...I don't know it just weird and creepy I however... All it tells me is that, I'm telling you and i've said this before. I'd make a great bit actor Yes? I can carry the role and be so convincing that somebody would just dislike me in that role Well you need to do this club again And uh..I am expecting next week. I don't care if we have to do it at a tent I want, no no. You're just lazy! This is what- now it's- Now i'm just not believing you anymore. You don't wanna have to go back...you didn't write everything down. This is what's- I know you and someone maybe I can convince Eric to help you Onward! Alright here's the rhythm Wait wait wait wait wait wait! Use the mac n' cheese Mac n' cheese Macaroni and cheetah cheddar melted together Mac N Cheese Mac N Cheese Mac N Cheese Living in a

59:26 Mac and cheese by I'm you've got karma. Yeah, give him his due to Random Hill Billy 333 dot 33 in Elkins West Virginia your old stomping grounds mm-hmm Thank You John and Anna for the courage to accept my donation I love the newsletters but I do get distracted by the kittens and forget to donate oh That's why we put pandas in I got a letter from somebody saying no puppy no donation Whatever, oh yeah. We need to customize these emails so we can have a puppy list... We have the Puppy Brigade, Panda List... Don Keel in Wyndham North New Hampshire not North New Hampshire, New Hampshire 2-11 I would say Cool? No Keel it says right there. Oh I'm sorry. In the book. It's in the thing. Wyndham New Hampshire 211 11 he'll be an associate executive producer for show 609

1:00:25 Get this thing open. Sorry I've not yet donated in 2014 Your whining makes me feel guilty Below is my accounting and with the latest, I am finally a knight Little girl yeah! Yay! I appreciate your work and what you have done to awaken my view of the world. Someday, you guys will go viral thanks for the karma! My thinking is critical...I am a PhD chemist and John actually does know a few things about that chemistry of course uh-huh it was working for a living keep going and thanks a million and he wants a science

1:01:11 Probably a karma. Oh, okay. You should have specified you've got as a scientist, you know The HD expects you to know Matthew Davis 200 $200 and 33 cents in Garden Grove I started listening the show around October after hearing John plug it repeatedly on twitch I must admit at first, i found the show to be simply another entertaining podcast to pass the time. By the way this is the letter of the show. It should have said a little...a little podcast just yeah maybe you could have. I found the show to be simply another entertaining pie little podcast to pass the time. Little did I know how wrong I was

1:01:56 Shortly after listening the LAX shooting occurred and introduced me to the six-week cycle then my company held a mac and cheese cook off competition for the holidays. Recently I went to the store, the gentleman in front of he was buying three boxes of Mac & Cheese. But I come home thinking, I should make a bigger donation because you guys are so in touch with what's going on out there. I decide to rest the fate of my bank account on the grace of CNN. Wouldn't ya know it? They're talking about some airplane! Also their expert is discussing how the plane might have landed intact

1:02:33 on the ocean and sank in one piece. Are you kidding? During the break there was a commercial for cheap homegrown natural gas, yay! And right at this commercial break as it was playing my girlfriend brought home some kale salad I give up. Here's my money, you guys can have it! Sorry for the lengthy email keep up the amazing work and take a dealer's choice from the NA soundboard Oh wow um oh man uh what should we do? What? We haven't done any parliaments and we haven't done those for awhile so okay i'll do this Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine

1:03:23 You've got karma. Yeah, we haven't heard that little yay thing for a while. Well thank you very much Matthew! What a great email that's nice yeah well it was a great but it is true we do we know what's going on and we are in touch with the people well we I don't know... We are, we do know what's going on. That's kind of interesting because I think he is right It's annoying! Look for the trends...we've missed a couple Yeah of course But it's pretty rare You can't win them all but yeah Alright ummm Sorry Okay were onto Mr Snow Oh really?

1:04:15 Mr. Snow to it awesome somewhere in Russia, okay? Please refer to me as mr.. Snow Trying to pick up the slack for st. Petersburg can't contribute as often as Alexander the Great from Moscow But I hope this will be the case in the future in other words contribute more I really want to say that love you guys and I can imagine where I get with the same and now attainment Analatainment. Yeah, that's a good one! Yes That you two provide and no Adam I'm not heteroflexible Well no, you're from Russia You hate gays we know that I hope the other producers are also show how much they love you I would like to give your... Like you'd give yourself a big blast of karma in an LGY at the end A tip to the producers and supporters if you take English language classes It's a good idea to consider bringing clips of this show to class

1:05:06 As advancing listening practice. That's a good idea! By the way, that is what Garcia does in Spain. I think that is fabulous idea. You've got karma. Just as little aside... I have now on sideband two on CW so Morse code and three on side band have talked to Hamz in Cuba Ukraine and Russia. And you know if Ham's... And CW? Yeah, so two men code with him. Two code and one was sidebands of voice. And if Hams were running the world there would be no problem like women like women running the world almost the same thing it hams or women same thing

1:06:04 Dame Astrid came in with $200 from Tokyo. Dame Astrid client, she sent an email I shall read You are my weekly entertainment! I'm not even going to the cinema anymore TV has a long lost its appeal and there's no other podcast that rather listen to so i better step up till to the till before I get classified as having sluggish cognitive tempo disorder for not donating. She's viscountess. As Adam and Vicky will soon attest, taxis are the finest means of commute in Tokyo Not sure when you came here last, John. But I do think you must have gotten confused with the taxis in Bangkok. I have to say... As for dinky doilies they might make you cringe or smile but at least they are sparkling white! Like some taxis i had to take in Brooklyn- Berkeley

1:06:57 where my five-year old daughter, spoiled by Japanese primness refused to enter what looked like more like a cross between a rubbish din pit tip and a dingy living room driven by dubious hoodie character eating Chinese takeout while driving. That sounds like a Berkeley cab that's why Uber and Lyft are taking over. Daymaster had she had a tinge of negative sarcasm in her voice there Yeah. Like a little, matronizing I would say towards you. Matronize? Don't you think she was matronizing... Thank you for your courage or always be the best podcast in the universe named Astrid by Countess of Tokyo! Ah that's so nice So she says someone thought it'd make it for a good model in the subway promenade and sends her picture Yes she is on a native ad She is an ad No she IS a native ad

1:07:48 Yeah, she's a native ad. Looks good! I can't wait to see them. So we're leaving May 12th We'll be doing two shows from Tokyo which will be the Hot Pockets Radioactive Tour because of course as you know from Amy Goodman You should be scared of Fukushima It's gonna kill me! When you go on this thing...you know the thing that I was doing? We might as well reveal some secrets of the No Agenda Show. Oh, hold on a second! Ladies and gentlemen another secret of the no agenda show So I'm looking at the numbers for all the newsletters we send out and one of the most popular ones...I think it may have been the most popular one was the one that again it did we ended up getting a good number of contributions I think you're gonna have to think along these lines although I think it would be effortless for you to find Tokyo to be ridiculously horrible

1:08:50 Not that I want to get into a feud with Astrid, but you were standing in front of a bunch of... You were stuck in Holland and you were standing in the cold in front of a bunch of bins. Oh yeah! Blowing through your hands. Freezing to death. Remember that picture? Yeah, yeah if I was freezing to death. Yeah, you're freezing to death right well it got a lot of sympathy Oh, so you're saying the sympathy vote. So when I'm in Tokyo I should be like... We should have you being beat up by a bunch of ninjas. Yakuza are beating me up? Ninjas! Yeah yeah, ninjas are beating me up. No no no. Yes, this is not suggesting it's a possibility

1:09:32 And finally $200 from the BJ Consulting Group aka Osaka No Agenda Fan Club which is in Finland. In Finland, in Lottie Finland instead of use my name PJ Consulting Club a hoy from Bill and JV from Gitmo Nation Octopus Balls I guess he's in Osaka at the moment. Yeah John said the old donation levers were active again so here's our donation become members with the 200 club right on time We hear that Adam is walking to Japan and wondered if there would be a local meetup once he arrives. By the way, the Osaka Airport IATA code is ITM. If you happen to swing by Osaka we'll provide you with ample octopus balls!

1:10:19 Otherwise, we'd be happy to don our hazmat suits and join you and Ms. Mickey in the radiated city of Tokyo." Well I got an email from Sir Mark now sir mark who has that little design firm a little architectural thing with Astrid Yeah it was a dude giant buildings yeah like our little podcast they've got a little thing over there And so Mark is turning he turned 50 or he's turning 50 this year And so he's got this whole... let me just read this to you. As Mickey may have told you, no she didn't we are planning a bit of a party at our Art Space Super Deluxe on Friday the 16th Seems a shame not too as there is a lot to celebrate both of you are in town Mickey has her show which is why were going, her art expo We should have an official No Agenda meet up while your here There ya go, it was your meet-up I was 50 last week You're 50 later in the year We've already lined some pretty crazy musicians to perform including Uginno

1:11:19 He plays the love arm. Okie dokie what? Just back up a skin flute No, no love arm this he plays the love arm and will create a special installation for the evening We have one of our favorite DJs playing playing DJ Tengu Who has who has yet to see The Wrath Of Dj Toretto but we'll talk about that later And we hope you will be able to spin some classics too. There you go, DJ Toretto, Reto, Reto, F-F-Fuck You, Tourette Show on the wheels of S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S

1:12:13 He was a member of Mott the Hoople and toured with Queen. Now this is gonna be... Are we bringing our walkers, is the question? He'll be joined by Sam Bennett on vocals and drums Quite a few other surprises are planned but I will leave it there! I'm sure one of the surprises would be somebody having a heart attack Well if Mickey and I are there It usually happens It's alright they never die They just have a heart attack Can't we just have a bunch- Do they have like little Never mind, I don't want to. You should bring the guys from Osaka make sure they show up for this. Yeah the octopus balls! With the balls? Aren't you sad that your not going to be there? Yeah I am so...I can still show up. I'll come as a surprise. Hey everybody! I'm broke now.

1:13:10 Hey girls. All right, thank you very much to our executive producers and associate executive producers this is a thank you we needed this particularly because We're taking off Sunday although there will be a clip show we do have new content in the clip show Excuse me. It's contagious and we need continued support Because I said, we just can't do it without you We are not PBS we are not NPR we don't have underwriting advertisers whatever you want to call all we have is Borac org Slash n and will be thanking the rest of the producers later on but first remember to go out and propagate The formula our formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth

1:14:08 you know you at that's doing remind people it channel of work dot coms another way to get there slash and they also know how to show in which animation dot com yes should you be locked out now someplace is just as a ham for awhile but does have only had we have producers who are network admins and systems administrators and they see the stuff happen inside companies big organizations all the time and they've been white list us right which is good yeah I would just want to stay with Well, actually it's Al-Qaeda Inc. a little bit but staying with Syria for just the moment there was a hearing and it was actually a subcommittee hearing and on this hearing were Lieberman who is no longer a senator right? Lieberman he retired yeah I know he quit right he quit whatever uh and Harmon the woman who is now doing stuff for CNN Right Is Jane Harman whatever her name is

1:15:06 Yeah, and And this is all kind of in light of this. You know this new video came out and well actually let me Let me play this Anderson Cooper clip So you know what I'm talking about if in case you hadn't seen it as well a scene an exclusive A video that could signal new round of plotting by al-qaeda It's surfaced recently on jihadist websites and shows the top al Qaeda leader dressing more By the way its surface recently on top Al Qaeda web sites Have you googled top Al-Qaeda website recently just so we can get now this is from I didn't know there were any tops bullshit. This comes from site SITE These are the guys that translate all these videos although this is you don't need to translate it because it's just a video of A bunch of guy, it could be from a movie set as far as I'm concerned and It says YouTube very clearly on it

1:15:57 You know, so big secret this Al-Qaeda website. I guess YouTube is an Al-Qaeda website? More than a hundred followers in Yemen telling them he wants to attack the United States U.S officials are not saying if they were caught off guard and didn't know about the gathering or couldn't get a drone there in time to strike it Barbara Starr joins me tonight with the latest Yes Barbara The video's really remarkable of the leader of al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula also the number two of Al-Qaeda worldwide out in the open talking to About 100 of his followers Isn't it extraordinary? Yes, you'd almost think it was propaganda. This is Yemen! This is the area that the US considers the most dangerous al-Qaeda stronghold They've tried to attack United States before they vowed to try and attack the United States directly yet again And yet a hundred of them including this top leader and other leaders are able to openly gather

1:16:49 and have a meeting, and talk. It may be propaganda it may be recruiting but it's also sending the message to the United States we feel strong enough, we feel secure enough that we can be out here in the open and were not afraid that you're going to attack us so if there is a real message Yes! Its'a message to whom though Barbara Starr And I think the follow-up conversation explains to us what the messaging will be. And the meme is dark, they've gone dark! Do we know how many assets or what sort of intelligence we actually have about these groups in Yemen? Was the US aware of this gathering? What kind of question is this?!

1:17:33 It's a leading question? Well, this is the absolute critical question right now. Oh it's an incredible question! No no, absolute critical. Holy crap! And I think she said absolute critical question. Oh I thought she said incredible. No no, absolute critical question Why is it a critical question? Oh, because Snowden is gathering. Well this is the absolute critical question right now did the US know about it or see intelligence about Yemen right now so spotty that they did not know one of the things that concerns the CIA the White House and Pentagon the most

1:18:09 is this al-qaeda group has gone underground in its communications to a large extent they are staying off the internet, they're staying off cell phones they've gone back to using couriers a good deal. Aha! Camels! They're using camels... they're using ham radios again I'll betcha They've gone dark. Now this is a setup and you can wait for it. Something is going to happen now, and I hear some follow-ups here from Lieberman and from Harmon. Something is going to happen, it will be an American asset, and its going to because of the Snowden leaks that these guys went dark and we couldn't track them anymore, and they had this South by Southwest of Yemen

1:19:15 I see where they were all out in the open and no one we didn't know it had we didn't have the intelligence you see this the sig int to go and drone them because let's be fair if You got a hundred guys from al-qaeda on horses and Toyotas. Did you blow him up right? Yeah, that's what we do shouldn't be there like now but they've gone dark underground cuz they know they're being tracked as Snowden's fault that's right and Just when you thought Al-Qaeda was decimated? Uh uh uh uh! No no, there's a lot more. So many we... You can't even ask the question Tell me a little more in detail about al Qaeda How many of them are there Now what have been hearing about al Qaeda? It was decimated No they took em out They're done, dead

1:20:05 Senator, can you tell us? Yeah. Of course when I was a senator I could say I'd like to tell you but i can't it's classified If you're no longer senator why do you still Why do they still call him senator? Are you a senator for the rest of your life somehow that's been yes something I've always noticed. I don't know when that started it may go way back, but yeah You're always mr.. President for the rest of your life. You're always mr.. Senator mister. You know your honor hmm The honorable Whatever. I know Uncle Don is still Ambassador Greg, they still call him that you calm that Yeah, hey ambassador Greg pass the spinach but the truth is at this moment? I don't know the exact

1:20:47 uh... answer uh... i am struck by the number which is gain some currency that there are you're not ok either it's been gaining some current ten thousand foreign fighters in syria now uh... so they're members of al-qaeda or associated groups are our groups that could fit the general description of violent islamist extremists and let me think with its head for discussion question please do at this clip What the hell's he got to do with anything? Because he is a spokesman. What does Harmon have to do with it, she is also no longer a representative Well what has he got to do with anything They are script kiddies they say what is needed for sound bite in subcommittee To then push things to the next level and of course... But what do they know! What their expertise? They're not even in government Hello are you questioning United States Senator

1:21:43 This is unbelievable that they would even be testifying. And the truth is in some of the countries we worry about, the numbers of Al Qaeda... They're still worrying about stuff? He's not even elected office anymore! ...or associates are probably in the hundreds and yet if you're prepared to blow yourself up to kill people, you can still have a terribly painful effect on us. If you talk about the 10,000 foreign fighters in Syria... You see where this is going obviously? This is moving towards Syria! We need to take someone out! Are you just talking about those that are fighting against the government or are you including Hezbollah on the side of the government? No I'm not including Hezbollah these are primarily Sunni

1:22:25 And of course I'm not including the Free Syrian Army or the other opposition groups to Assad that started this. What's he talking about? He is talking about the 10,000 foreign fighters in Syria. What makes him an expert on this?! Are you questioning a United States Senator!? With peaceful protest these are violent Islamist extremists have come in from around the world not just the region. That's a big number and that's why I said testimony that I think that Syria today is rapidly becoming them the most threatening terrorist sanctuary in the world now it's the most threatening terrorist sanctuary... Why do you know this? Are you questioning United States Senator

1:23:16 This is a setup. Now, I'm going to play it all back for you we need to have so we have no more SIGINT on any al-Qaeda certainly not in Yemen but Syria f Russia is the number one place where now we know there's it's not just al-qaeda, its terrorists its crazy Muslim extremists. This is the sanctuary and now let's bring in... Hold on a second stop us I just want to throw one logical point in here you can tell me where I'm crazy if this is all true then why don't we just back Assad and get rid of those creeps?

1:23:59 Are you questioning a United States Senator, young man? Because you wouldn't question a former congresswoman whose name is Harmon. Well I said in my testimony that some are predicting now that the way we will finally intervene adequately in Syria when there is unfortunately a terrorist attack against us or our interests... And who is this sum she's talking about? This is people, are you questioning a former congresswoman of the United States currently CNN commentator. Are you questioning that young man by those there that I agree with Senator Lieberman and that Syria could easily become the sequel to Afghanistan in training large numbers of terrorists. Hey! Can I ask another logical question? Yes please

1:24:51 Why are these, is this the only two people they could stooge up to talk before Congress to give this sort of testimony? They couldn't find actually an intelligence guy or CIA guy or anything? In the same session. Brennan! In the same session they had Frederick Kagan No! Doctor... but his testimony was so boring I couldn't pull a clip from it five minutes of bleh And Frederick, so he's on the same panel. Dr Kagan as they call him. Dr Kagan! Fredrick Kagan brother Robert Kagan husband to Noodleman Newland project for new American century the guys who got us into Iraq He is on this panel This is a propaganda panel that's why they bring in people who used to you know not under oath probably even for this it was just a subcommittee

1:25:43 Let's continue with Ms. Harmon But on your question of how many in Al-Qaeda, I think there is no answer to that question Think amoebas There is a loose affiliation of terror groups that form and reform around projects Some are al Qaedas some are not What does this got to do with the Amoebas? Do Amoebas have projects? They come over here So as two amoebas walk into a bar

1:26:22 No? You don't have one? I, uh... On a better day i'd nail it. But no. Sorry With groups like ISIS which is considered too radical. I find that quite amazing to get your head around. Also there are Sunni and Shia- I'm still trying to get my head around Amoebas Forget ISI Yeah Terror Groups inside of syria for example as well as a she had terror group and yet allot of these other groups al-qaeda being one are sunny groups not and they're fighting each other so it's

1:26:59 Just two conclusions. Number one, it's I think impossible to measure but number two let's not overstate the number of Al-Qaeda that's their narrative we don't want to make them look good She is just babbling and babbling she doesn't know what she is doing Well actually she gives something away in this next clip so to summarize here al Qaedas gone underground they've gone dark Thank you Snowden. I'm just giving you the whole narrative, this is how it has to play out so now we can't even...we don't even know when they're having their jamboree It's Al Qaeda on the air! It's Al Qaeda Jamboree They're getting their scout badges So yeah when we could have droned the... We could have taken out the entire Yemen al-Qaeda Nope, we didn't know that and were so foolish that they post YouTube videos which of course we can't track, we've no idea

1:27:47 you know, anyway forget about that. So now it's clear that Syria is such a mess with all their al-Qaeda and all this who cares? Syria is where the next attack is going to come from so there's going to be an attack unfortunately as Harman said on American interest I would actually say an El Al aircraft. It may not be a huge... something's gonna happen with it should be in Israeli thing just to mix it up a little if I was in charge... No, no, no, come on there is no mixing up Want to mix it up a bit. It's oh yeah, you'd want to mix it up a little bit So but no it's got to be the same old same old It's gonna might be a May first thing this may be the six-week thing that maybe all could be really spectacular But we should have a real event We can't just have a phony baloney events should be a reel of they're not going to have a real event That's the problem

1:28:42 They can't get these guys to do a real event. They're fighting and so they got to create first you created like fear and oh it's because this no we're not spying enough right even though the spying didn't do anything about the Boston thing did it chief don't know anything about Anything funny or the Malaysian airplane how come they didn't figure that out? So but that's okay, so let's set this up And then let's do a real phony baloney thing or better Stop one just before happens And you know that we have a whole bunch of troops in Africa, the continent of Africa. We have these guys like 150 guys looking for Kony and we've got guys roaming around, the advisors... Yeah, these advisor groups that we keep sending in

1:29:28 How come we can't with all the spy satellites that can isolate these guys in Yemen so he can drone them, and we can't find Kony? Ah well it's because as Harmon is about to tell us they're not really looking for Kony they're doing something else. Military leaders say the same thing I do think we have to win the argument with some kid in the boonies of Yemen deciding whether to strap on a suicide vest and... Let me just get a visual I'm in the boonies of Yemen. There's a suicide vest, what do i do? Do i chew some cot or do i strap on the vest? Strap on a suicide vest and the way we win our argument that we win that argument is to

1:30:10 convince him of a narrative about the United States very different from the one he believes. The propaganda he's been brainwashed to believe and that will require more than the use of kinetic force I would keep it on the table but i also would do other things diplomatic... Well she's about, stop stepping on her! She's about to tell you. I think it's a complicated problem, but whack-a-mole is not an adequate solution. So what we do is we send in these under the guise of we're going to help you find Coney that they were actually guided We're actually puppet mastering the leaders of these African states That's what she just said guiding them and we need more propaganda More propaganda! Well, I think it's perfect

1:31:24 Very interesting thing we're doing there. Oh, that's new I thought it was to go and find Kony no No, no wait stop hold on a second John oh my goodness breaking news Breaking News out of Boston this is video of an area near the Boston Marathon finish line on Boylston Street It is not live video We're showing you were not showing your live video the Boston police has asked us not to show live images why? Why not? Why can't you show live video of kids drowning in a ferry, you show live video of people grieving over their loved ones who are dead or missing. But no! I'm sorry Boston said please don't show any live video why because

1:32:11 A rice cooker is not the same as a pressure cooker, you morons. To make rice! It's not a pressure cooker. You may recall, pressure cooker bombs killed three injured more than 260 last April the backpack was detonated as a precautionary measure. Look at this! They did not contain a bomb you actually see so they place this thing so cameras are looking at it while they detonate it well what started to detonate? They detonated their rice cooker

1:32:52 How do they detonate? There's no bomb in there. No, no! They blew it up with explosives With their own bomb Yes This is disgusting propaganda and I apologize I apologize for my country Everyone who was here on a visa you got a green card...I'm sorry I don't know where it went wrong We're trying to undo an awful wrong with our police state Please help us You're welcome here because this is crap It's fucking, it makes me mad. Well no but luckily nobody watches this show. Now I did get a clip from the same thing that I have a Boston backpack thing but thats better that one so let me play this other thing though This was during the ceremonies where they're extolling the Boston bomber situation and how great we are as a country

1:33:47 And so Biden comes up and which brings me to a question when Biden says this. Okay, here is Biden. America will never stand down! We are Austin! We are America! We respond! We endure! We are calm and we own the finish line! America... Here's the question He says America will never ever ever stand down Now explain to me why we stood down at Benghazi. We were told to stand down, these guys say hey we're getting killed here Have you been watching Sean Hannity again? No I haven't but i'm telling ya remember that we had the clips oh no we were told to stand down right The Biden comes out here in Boston okay we won't stand down in Boston and we won't stand down in the country because we have citizens this shit

1:34:45 We'll stand down in Benghazi, but he says it will America. Well never ever ever ever stand up well He's running for president in case you hadn't heard III took a different clip from his little speech which this is what I thought was interesting to Those quote survivors. I love the quote survivors What does that mean what yeah? He says to those quotes survivors? Wow yeah, well it gets worse to those quote survivors My God, you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. I mean this sincerely. What? It was worth it! Just to hear each of you speak... You are truly, truly inspiring. I've never heard anything as beautiful as what all of you just said. You know this guy is going to be hilarious to watch run for president against Hillary

1:35:50 Yeah, it could be quite entertaining MSNBC to finalize this little bit of a Boston Very interesting so they This MSNBC woman is essentially going to read the party line to cover up the FBI's incompetence on this sickness. This is what all the dragnet surveillance is supposed to stop and And of course the FBI is blaming Russia on not giving him the right information. Where I thought we could listen to anything, anytime anywhere and we know how to do this and it's all so great but okay... It didn't work so well in this case. Then she brings on a spokeshole for... Oh, I wrote this down hold on a second This is a fantastic outfit! I'm gonna have to... oh I'm going to play the clip while looking for this

1:36:46 Just have a listen to what he how he brings us right back around to Al Qaeda. As for his late brother Tamerlan, A government report Thursday cite several steps where the FBI did not follow up on its investigation of the older brother prior to the bombing However it also finds no evidence that these missed opportunities to further scrutinize him or his brother would afforded the attack If anything, the Boston Marathon bombing is a reminder both that homegrown attacks on our soil are rare but also that despite our best efforts there won't always be safety in numbers even in seemingly safe spaces from a determined few bent on mayhem. You know it's so pathetic when you listen to this and you're not watching it and hear how she's just a prostitute, a spokes-hole for the ministry of truth She literally stumbling through the copy handed to her by the authorities

1:37:37 It's creepy to hear this. Yeah, Coleman is an NBC terrorism analyst and a senior partner at Flashpoint global partners Oh yeah flash point global partners This is what I was looking at see this is us man. This is so our flash point partners Yeah, a proactive approach identifying potential threats illuminating the dark web. That's right Flashpoint partners is dedicated to meeting the challenge of providing its customers with the data and expertise necessary To demystify the dark web The areas on the internet where mainstream search engines are unable to penetrate and turn the unknown and unseeable into actionable intelligence to assist corporations, governments, and individuals in protecting their interests and obligations. Flashpoint-intel.com So Evan we were talking about this a little bit in the break

1:38:32 First of all, what do we know about the Sarnayev brothers and what might have caused them to become radicalized? Look I mean We don't know that much. We know bits and pieces Reportedly the FBI has found multiple copies of a magazine on these folks computers inspire magazines a bomb-making manual written by al Qaeda in Yemen in English It's inspired magazine And it specifically designed to radicalize individuals here in the West and teach them how to carry out a homegrown, lone wolf terrorist attack. I just can't seem to get radicalized yet. Are you radicalized, John? You've read a couple of these Inspire magazines haven't you? Actually i've never even bothered Oh oh well I'm trying! I just...I can't seem to get radicalized Was this what radicalized them were they radicalize before they got this it's not really clear and and what the Russians

1:39:30 according to this report passed along to the FBI was far from definitive. They used the same words that describe the Tsarnaevs as they used to describe the protesters in Maidan Square in Kiev, so... Oh yes! It's the same guys I get it of course How would we know what exactly the nature of threat was? And just because the Russians are angry that someone is sympathetic with Chechen rebels That doesn't make a homegrown terrorist. There are a lot of extremists out there, there are people that say awful things on the internet... It's very difficult to tell who is really a dangerous person and who is simply talking loudly I am talking loudly! John this group Flashpoint Partners have you looked at this website? Yeah looking at them now This is us man look at this where subject matter expertise and data analytics meet

1:40:22 They have a lot of these guys that are very... I wouldn't even say they're sketchy. They're like guys who couldn't get a job with the real think tank Yes, that's why i think this is good for us because That's pretty much what we are We can't get a job with the think tank either See the got Jim Putt Who served in the Central Intelligence Agency's clandestine service for nearly 20 years He's an Arabic speaker Spent some 15 year serving in Middle East and South Asia And these are guy you never hear of Putt Yeah! We got Putt You got put. What I can tell you is he's the only intelligence guy Well, there's Roger Cressy a partner with Liberty Group Ventures in Arlington Virginia what do you think those guys are? Senior VP at Booz Allen Hamilton come on that's uh those are the right guys Okay and then this other guy from Cyber... Contractor Yeah well yeah okay i'm thinking solutions wait they have solutions what's the solution? Don Hodling They can identify potential threats they help you know your enemy

1:41:20 I'm telling you this is the kind of thing you and i can do. Yeah we got a picture of the New York skyline little operation like this and collect some government money, and write some reports yeah just need to report writer who enjoys writing this crap doesn't Ramsey do that? We get him to do that? I think Ramsay's...yeah he could do a clip show but I don't know about the report writing. We need a report writer some guy was good at writing these kind of reports they have to have you know they There's a certain style in the rest of it. So here is the tweet from the Boston Police Department, add Boston police BPD media advisory for officer safety Media outlets are discouraged from showing any live video of backpacks found near finish line and I guess CNN reads that tweet and goes okay we shouldn't do that Yeah thats what all news organizations do whatever the police tell you to do news organization Do it! You just do it people

1:42:21 Whose side are you on anyway? Yeah, are you part of the problem it's disturbing today is a I think tap day like tap dance tap day at Yale Tap Dance no not tap dance this is when you're walking around on the Yale campus and You get a tap on the shoulder and then you will hear skull in bones except or reject This is when you get tapped to join the skull and bones today it today. Yes, this today's tap day yeah well and bad news regarding our idea for the we had you know the Video show that were going to do and one only one person can buy by this and own it By auction yeah I think you know there's something about this idea that which originated with the Wu-Tang clan

1:43:25 Right. Which is not, we shouldn't be doing this Did you hear what happened to the Wu-Tang guy? Yeah yeah some guy uh... Andre Johnson Oh right, Johnson. Which was like come on. Cuts off his Johnson. He cuts off his penis. By the way nobody uses this headline I know it's Johnson loses Johnson Johnson no it's Johnson loses Johnson comma jumps Jumps But survives I mean, this is a bad mojo. I'm convinced it has to do with their whole marketing campaign It could be! They're not allowed to do such a thing The music industry is making them crazy So they gave him some crazy drug and then some hypnotist came in there You want to cut it off don't you? So he cuts himself off and then says now jump out the window Jump out the window you can fly He jumps of his second story window

1:44:21 and breaks his arm or whatever, and they find him. And they take the cut off pecker and drive him to the hospital I don't know what happened since then Just a ridiculous story Yeah, I know Couple of snow job thingies... I found out what Poitras is really doing in America Laura Poitras? Yeah her friend She is here for meetings She will be directing the new Jeff's... Is it Jeff Skoll? That the guy Skoll? S-K-O-L-L, the Skoll guy. The eBay also like eBay guy...the money guy behind Inconvenient Truth Oh that guy! Isn't it Jeff Skoll I don't know who it is. I can't remember these names. Especially names like Skoll Yeah Jeffrey Skoll he's an important guy

1:45:12 He is... I think, didn't his money come from eBay or Amazon? Yeah yeah. He was the first employee also first president of internet auction firm eBay Okay he was an employee Well it was number one Yeah he's number one employee So he made a lot of dough. He and Pierre drive my car. This is Woodside where all the good guys live Now you have to imagine how it all starts to fit together Poitras works for Pierre Drive My Car, former eBay guy. And she's been sidelined... She's not writing anything except hey I'm with this guy. She's taking a check i'm sure and then teams up with Skolls movie company because he'll be doing the Snow Job movie and she will be the director how convenient is that in fact that's why she was in Japan in the first place into I'm sorry in uh not in Japan in Hong Kong in China well Hong Kong

1:46:15 She was shooting, if you recall she was shooting the movie. She was already starting this and now of course it's all heated up and everything is perfect... ...and now Skull can come in. This is what this guy does! You know like did Inconvenient Truth, they're working on Inconvenient Truth 2... ...you know we can go get another Oscar and I'm sure this has Oscar written all over it so Poitras will be directing that. The skids are spoiled Oh yeah Meanwhile, there's been an interesting campaign discovered by a guy whose website I track while I subscribe to his RSS feed. And by the way, we're looking at Skull's wiki page. Now Skull is... you know the wiki guys tend

1:47:01 Dog some of these pages especially when their biographies and this one here looks to be just like a big promotional thing And I just have to read this line because I would ask why is this on? His wiki page as something important unless it's code for something, and I don't know what it would be other interests interesting okay other interest it's a subhead It says, Skoll owns a Tesla Roadster from Tesla Motors. A battery electric sports car the third Tesla off-the-line P2 dash Vin F003 he's also an investor in the company what who cares? Yeah well because these things are you know it's wiki this is done by little weenie boys yeah you can't really

1:47:59 Fuck here's what I'm gonna say fuck Wikipedia. That's what I'm gonna say, I'm sorry I said it yeah, I have I know they're gonna kill me now And now I prefer to read a Nolan Canadian by the way Yeah A Nolan and this is a guy who listens to the show and then I often post links from his blog a Nolan calm in the show notes And he hates this whole cabal in Germany. He's always tracking what's going on with the Poitras and Applebaum, and he says it's very interesting Twitter is being spanned with hundreds of different users tweeting the exact same message then he lists them all and here's okay so there are all different Twitter addresses Jane Cake

1:48:46 Here's the software that helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA. And it's all pointing to Tails and Tor, which is you know the Applebaum coordinated spyware that I guess even Snowden himself said if he you know you really shouldn't be using any of this here's Google Tech at ggtechmy. Here's the software that helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA! So there are hundreds of tweets. Josephina Bonham, here is the software that helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA. Beauty Horoscope Health Feeds have food recipes. E-Hads Food. Here is the software that helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA! What is going on with this? We have hundreds of so called Twitter users tweeting exactly the same thing... not retweeting

1:49:37 literally tweeting the same thing over and over again? Okay, well you have to set this up properly. You have to establish accounts on Twitter years ago Yeah To get enough numbers to make it worthwhile or get three followers I mean Well let me just grab the food recipes one Let me just see Open that one Yeah That's a good idea I hadn't actually done that work I'm glad we're doing this together This is why we do it Okay So its eHadsFood And let's see what we can find out about his particular Twitter. He has 3,893 followers... he's done 48 thousand tweets and what do I check here? What am i supposed to be looking at? Take a look at some of the- open him up so you get his whole feed and see what some of the stuff is feeding out there. See how much propaganda this looks to me to be a plant for duh. Well food recipes lets' see uh interesting um

1:50:37 Lots of it's this is just a PR company sport Premier League title right there's nothing about food food recipes New Challengers contest Silbert. What is this watch 80 years worth of bizarre and historic moments? Thanks to British Path a this is just a pure PR company pretending to be a food blog tweeter Prince William makes everyone a bit nervous on Australian cliff edge as Duchess Kate looks on you kidding me That's just one of them Let's look at another one. What do we have? What was the Google Tech guy, let's find that one that was interesting That is GG tech M as in Mike Y Gg tech my and see what that ones doing you know what so what is the campaign here who is why does this happen how many followers on that one well the food guide 3800 This Google Tech only has 66 So this is nothing

1:51:33 Dropbox acquires loom will shut down its cloud photo service Walmart takes on Western Union Creating bio shock was a protracted ego driven, but this is okay. Well here's what it Here's what it obviously is obviously a honeypot yeah? Yeah Tauron tails yes Yeah, it's a honeypot and so they there is a public relations agency. They're all doing this now and they're all various schemes that they don't want to talk about generally but you can find out about most of these things. These huge public relations agencies have these systems in which you say well here is what I'd like to do. We need some promotion out to get people to go to this site

1:52:16 They don't even say it's a honeypot, they just have the public relations company take care of it and they say well that's great we have you know what we've done? We've got 300 bogus accounts that we've developed and cultivated over the last five years with different numbers of people. And we can tweet it out and will get a huge response right in the joke of it of course nice Nolan found this The joke of it, of course is these lazy bastards that are running these agencies can't even vary it. It's the exact same tweet which makes so easy to find. It's very much like when we look up a lot of our stories We look for a line within the story and then put in Google you find this story the exact same story with exact same headline repeated throughout the news media

1:53:03 So if you do this actual line, let's uh why don't we just do this. Here is the software that helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA put that into Google. Check it out! Okay hold on Engadget That's it of course Oh a lot of Engadget Hey Engadget Is Engadget somehow... There's the software that Helps Edward Snowden Helps Edward Snowden avoid the NSA It was Edwin. Edward? Edward. Now that's all I need is, here's the software that helps Edward and then just do the search based on that you don't need a lot of them gadget pops up dude handsome Twitter smocker calm regator okay so John John right at the top yeah John fingers wrote this oh so maybe he's on the take

1:53:59 Well, he wouldn't be on the take. He was just... Somebody gave him put a piece of paper in front of him and said hey write this in I don't know we have to talk to John Fingas and ask him why you ran this story Now what I'm gonna tweet is same thing here's the software that so maybe get it on the hit And then I'm gonna put equals honeypot Yeah yeah good That'll stop them in their tracks That'll do it Good work. He communicates with the media using Tails, a customized version of Linux Oh brother! that makes it easy to use Tor's anonymity network and other tools that keep data private Mm-hmm Software loads from external drives and doesn't store anything locally so its relatively trivial for Snowden and his contacts to discuss leaks without leaving a trace Okay, so we can assume thats not true Yeah this is a honeypot

1:55:00 There's a big push right now and it's war on weed. At first I didn't see it but I was lucky enough to be driving around with Ms. Mickey, we went to our dance class and stuff as you know I don't have the phone anymore so we listen to the radio, listening to National Public Radio, National Pentagon Radio A small study came out that says Even casual marijuana use can mess up your brain if you're a young adult.

1:55:42 20 pot users in the study, 20. This is a huge study. A huge study of twenty? Ages 18 to 25 said they smoked marijuana an average of about four days a week for an average total of about 11 joints Half of them smoked fewer than six joints a week Researchers scanned their brains and compared the results To those of 29 users who were matched for age sex and other traits The results showed differences in two brain areas associated with emotion and motivation. Users showed higher density than non-users, as well as differences in shape of those areas. Both differences were more pronounced in those who reported smoking more marijuana.

1:56:35 So this prompted an entire barrage, and this is clearly PR companies at work. An entire barrage of reports and I heard this one on NPR Which is just a quick clip. It was like a seven minute bit and it was all about moms and parents and dads in Colorado And how they're dealing with their kids because you know, you can't legally consume the The devil weed until your is 18 or 21 in Colorado? I don't know. I think it's 20 maybe 21 So you can't legally consume the devil weed. Now I grew up in Amsterdam where there never has been an age restriction, it's not even technically legal but it is allowed

1:57:21 And yeah, when I was 15 maybe even 14. I'd smoked a joint and like okay that's great Yeah That felt kind of funny but you know because it was there wasn't such a big deal You don't walk around stoned all day same with alcohol if you look 16 or 15? You could go into a bar and get a beer no big deal But listen these parents Instead of having a normal dialogue and a normal relationship with their kids, now these are teenage kids. This one parent really stuck out and I can just visualize this woman So wired I think she's just gonna explode. She's, I don't know This is sad really sad when I hear this one in six kids who uses marijuana Eventually becomes addicted to it according to studies cited by the National Institutes of Health This isn't so we have this one study really? This is one study Lisa Philholm as a Denver mom who attended the panel she has had lots of open very candid discussions with her two teen sons about the pressures and temptations to use pot

1:58:26 But at the end of the day, she says kids need firm boundaries. And I think it's pretty clear when you're an adult figure it out for yourself when you're a kid. Nope. You already hear this? Nope! Listen to this mom. Nope! Zero. We have zero tolerance policy in our house which involves urine testing at home if we think we need it If we didn't do that! No way, no way. The answer was no way and I think that is how you have to handle it. You have to handle it! Zero tolerance party! Alright test your urine! Stop! You know what I'm looking for here? Do I get in? Yep, you get clip of the day. This woman needs a smoke a joint. That's just unbelievable what a horrible person that woman is She needs to smoke a joint. I am gonna go...you kids

1:59:23 Okay, you're taking urine tests right now. Line up you brats! No way! Zero tolerance policy in our house which involves urine testing at home if we think we need it. We put a foot down no way the answer is no way and I think that is how you have to handle it. I feel bad for the kids but also this poor woman she's completely psycho over a plant That's a horrible person that woman. Now here is the interesting thing that I learned. Urine testing? Yeah! Line up kids it is our weekly urine testing. Here, here is the thing that I learned. Drink some beer if you have to pee This study is one of the very very very very few studies at all in academia

2:00:13 regarding marijuana. I did not know this is study because the results are going to be pleasant for law enforcement will listen to this so there's one producer of marijuana in America it's University Mississippi and if you want to get a marijuana which is illegal federally, if you want to get it to study and then give it you'll give the people see how it affects their brains even get approved and then provided by that university and the government doesn't readily provide those approvals hard to study. So there's like a, there is a dearth of actual research even as we enter this period in which we're running this big social experiment? I mean in a sense there is an epic amount of research There are thousands of years of research and just natural study but like... In terms of published papers no! There isn't a whole lot.

2:00:56 There are very few actual studies, which is why you get this one little study with 20 subjects and this is a big deal. By the way Fox... This is bullshit by the way! Of course it's bullshit No because there's plenty of studies or actually are a lot of academic studies in Israel No, but I'm talking American studies. Oh no we can't touch it heaven forbid because the same results the Israelis come up with which is not a bad problem here's good as it actually works as a medicine We still have people coming on to these talk shows especially the right-wing talk shows would you all you know It's gonna kill ya and they could these people come on and then they go on and say You know there's no real medical benefits its bullcrap yeah And that's not true

2:01:38 Even Sanjay Gupta says there's medical and when Sanjay says it hello back It took him a while to snap out of he had actually visited with these guys in Israel Yeah, when they slapped them around I said what are you just lying to the public? yeah because before that as we had shown on this show Sanjay Gupta was all dead against all bullcrap just no proof. That does anything I did see a funny article that The the one was she what was this in the Mother Nature Network, but I'm sure they stole it from somewhere else. Saying that part of the problem of California's drought which i think is starting to solve itself with an amount of rain you've received... Is because of pot farms! Yeah, I know too many pop farms!!

2:02:27 That's bullcrap. Most of the pot farms, by the way in Washington State, the legal ones now and even though the illegal ones in California are indoors that is why they sell so many crazy machines and lights and grow lights and most of the pot farms can be spotted by helicopters flying around with infrared sensors and they find hot spots Like why is that house looks like it's red hot and they find a big pot farm inside the place? I was talking to Joe, you know healthy surprise. Joe has got that new business Yeah Oh man this guy is gonna be so... he's gonna be swimming in money He said the only problem he's having is consistency of product Is getting good stuff from the farmers where its consistent It's gonna be so big This edible stuff is a good idea

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2:17:56 And thank you for supporting us and becoming a knight. That happens when you hit the amount of $1,000 and of course we have periods that goes way beyond that it's always nice to see new entrants to the table Thank you, thank you, thank you! Makes it possible for us to do this show ya know? Which is no joke Exactly Let's see... You want a little update? Yeah, give me an update. Okay let's do a little update... Attention all citizens! This is the command post carry on I don't know what that was John but it sounded like somethings going on Here is an update as we check in with our actress Miss Bejack Miss Bejack of course is one of the families of the lost souls on flight MH370

2:19:01 And she was in Malaysia, now she's in Beijing. She always liked to check-in with Aaron Burnett and give us a little update on what is going on with the plane and how the Malaysians are really messing this up because you know she's not like an agent or anything or acting or anything set the stage or anything. You and I spoke last, you talked about the plane being taken that was the word you used which really it's stuck in my head a lot of our viewers heads what are other scenarios you think they should be looking for? Well i do still believe the plane was taken this is leading witness so please what other scenario should we be looking for please let us know what to but you think and she of course goes right into well

2:19:45 What are the other scenarios you think that they should be looking for? Well, I do still believe the plane was taken. I do still believe...I love that! That language is great There's enough evidence of it having been flown to support that but even if it was a ghost plane or zombie plane even if there had been a catastrophic failure and The machine..the flight rebooted itself Now this is where And I'm all for zombie planes and I do believe someone took it. But you've got to be a little careful with me when you talk about the flight rebooting. I have to put my foot down, zero tolerance policy on bull crap like this. Like any computer would reboot itself? Like any computer would reboot itself! It happens all the time in aviation The default behavior of that would have been to go 360 degrees which would be due north it wouldn't be too default to go south

2:20:43 So when your flight reboots like any computer would do, the default behaviors go 360 degrees north and not south. This is the default behavior What, she's a computer programmer now? So you know whether it was catastrophic failure or whether the plane was taken intentionally we still believe that there are options that should be explored and many of those options are actually over land. Well the agency of course! They're not over the sea We just learned yesterday Sarah about about a possible cell phone connection and that's all we know at this point. We don't know whether there was a call or anything else but a cell phone tower made contact with the co-pilot cell phone well after the plane turned off course, well after the communications were turned off

2:21:26 Why do you think that information is just coming out now, given how central it could be? I don't know. It's amazing to me how much information is withheld by the Malaysian government and just kind of released in dribs and drabs. It's almost like its enough to keep us from starving like giving a sip of water to a dying man Yes! I love the analogy she has got here You know, I would have thought that the first thing they would have done is checked all the cell phone towers within possible distance of that flight path to see if there was any kind of connection activity.

2:22:02 passengers not just for the pilot. They clearly have everybody's cell phone numbers or could have easily garnered those. So it is really amazing to me that we're only hearing this now." So her job is to discredit the Malaysian government and I'll just go back to our original thesis, that this is more about the Strait of Malacca and about probably knocking the current government out of power and bringing in the opposition who's been, what is it? Awar Bin... forget his name. He has been a CIA asset all his life somewhere it looks like someone screwed up though because this gone off the rails and they keep throwing this woman into talk some crazy stuff and then we have Erin who was just she so innocent in all of this

2:22:50 And she sits there with Richard Quest, and by the way you got to be sitting across from Richard Quest and just thinking dude you had a rope around your balls and meth in your pocket. This is weird! You're a weird guy. We'll hit pause there all I can say is it's bizarre that they would only leak this little thing and US officials are just confirming the one little thing so do U.S officials know more or refusing tell her? Are not being told more something stinks yes something stinks Aaron really Something's... Probably Richard Quest. Yes, something stinks! I don't trust it! Well they're still keeping those ratings and they can't be up to the same. Oh no no i've uh no no i actually have the ratings in the show notes because we keep tabs on this they are still way up

2:23:44 CNN is doing double, they still have not knocked Fox out of the top spot but they are close second in prime time. Well except for Bill O'Reilly but his audience is really a little... he's got the older demos But the CNN numbers are almost triple what they were before we do believe the plane got flown away rebooted and flew 360 degrees north So, it's clearly what people want and hello we add a little capsized fairy to the mix. This is fantastic! Yeah this is big dough It's beautiful

2:24:28 So did you know that Matt Taibbi has now gone to work for Pierre Omidar? Yeah, we discussed it on the show I believe. He hasn't published anything yet. Well he's got a book out... No he's not gonna...I think they bought him and decided to get rid of him. Get him off the scene! You know this is going to be like another...who?! Yeah, he was very annoying for two bankers and stuff. Yeah, he was trouble trouble trouble yeah he was on Democracy Now with a few things to say about his new book and went against HSBC did you know that what HSBC stands for? Yes the Hong Kong Singapore Bank something Shanghai Shanghai yeah of course it could be Singapore yeah it's a bunch of Chinas

2:25:11 Yeah, originally. Then they moved their shop to Europe and became a bunch of... So he was on there bitching and moaning about one thing or another. He did have one story I have a bunch of clips of it too but this is the HSBC where one of the board members from that bank is now running our FBI Exactly. That doesn't tell you something that's real We don't forget these things easily, by the way We like to keep track of this stuff Alright so I play this HSBC story? Yeah, play that. But in the case of a company like HSBC which admitted to laundering $850 million for repair of Central and South American drug cartels somebody has to go to jail in that case if you're going to put people in jail for having a joint in their pocket or for slinging dime bags on the corner and it's been in a city street You cannot let people who laundered 800 million dollars from for the worst drug offenders in the world walk

2:26:08 Wait, this can't be a parenthetical. Explain what you're talking about with HSBC? So HSBC again... This is one of the world's largest banks It's Europe's largest bank and a few years ago they got caught swept up for a variety of offenses, money laundering offenses. But one of them involved admitting that they had laundered $850 million for repair for two drug cartels, one in Mexico and one in South America including the notorious Sinaloa drug cartel in Mexico that is suspected in thousands of murders And in that case they paid a fine They paid a 1.9 billion dollar fine

2:26:44 And some of the executives had to defer their bonuses for a period of five years. Not give them up, defer them! But there were no individual consequences for any of these executives nobody had to pull money out of their own pockets permanently uh... and nobody did a single day in jail in that case and that to me was incredibly striking case i would buy ran that very day to the courthouse here in new york and i asked around the public defenders you know what's the dumbest drug case you had today and i found somebody who have been thrown in rikers for forty seven days for having enjoyed in his pocket uh... so you get that's is that even illegal knowing new york city actually it's not illegal to take a real join around your pocket was decriminalized way back in the late seventies but what part of the now past stop and frisk

2:27:31 What they do is, they would stop you and then they would search you and force you to empty your pockets. When you empty your pockets now it's no longer concealed and now it's illegal again so in that year they had 50 thousand marijuana arrests even though having marijuana was technically decriminalized at the time Well I think we should hire this guy to shut him up He's making way too much sense And here's the other story he told. He was on for quite a while, but this... Now the problem is you're gonna have trouble finding this clip because I would as a touch typist if you're off a little bit on a foreign keyboard You get this instead of Taibbi it says yay-o-nee, um whatever Yeah okay. I don't know how they got traffic right?

2:28:15 You want me to play this? Yeah, play this. A 35-year old African American man a bus driver and I asked him what he was there for and he told me that he had been arrested for quote unquote obstructing pedestrian traffic And...I thought he was kidding you know i didn't know what that meant and I asked him to show me his summons and he pulled out a little piece of pink paper and there it was written you know obstructing pedestrian traffic which turns out it meant that he was standing in front of his own house at one o'clock in the morning and the police just didn't like the way he looked, and arrested him. And this is part of the disorderly conduct statute here in New York but this is one of these offenses that people get roped in for it's part of what a city councilman in another city called an epidemic of false arrests basically these new stats-based police strategies... The whole idea

2:27:31 What they do is, they would stop you and then they would search you and force you to empty your pockets. When you empty your pockets now it's no longer concealed and now it's illegal again so in that year they had 50 thousand marijuana arrests even though having marijuana was technically decriminalized at the time Well I think we should hire this guy to shut him up He's making way too much sense And here's the other story he told. He was on for quite a while, but this... Now the problem is you're gonna have trouble finding this clip because I would as a touch typist if you're off a little bit on a foreign keyboard You get this instead of Taibbi it says yay-o-nee, um whatever Yeah okay. I don't know how they got traffic right?

2:28:15 You want me to play this? Yeah, play this. A 35-year old African American man a bus driver and I asked him what he was there for and he told me that he had been arrested for quote unquote obstructing pedestrian traffic And...I thought he was kidding you know i didn't know what that meant and I asked him to show me his summons and he pulled out a little piece of pink paper and there it was written you know obstructing pedestrian traffic which turns out it meant that he was standing in front of his own house at one o'clock in the morning and the police just didn't like the way he looked, and arrested him. And this is part of the disorderly conduct statute here in New York but this is one of these offenses that people get roped in for it's part of what a city councilman in another city called an epidemic of false arrests basically these new stats-based police strategies... The whole idea

2:29:04 rope in as many people as you can, see how many of them have guns or warrants and then basically throw back the innocent ones. But the problem is they don't throw back everybody. They end up sweeping a lot of innocent people and charging them with really pointless crimes." There's a very comic scene where he goes to court and has a hard time convincing his public defender why he doesn't want to pay a fine for standing in front of his home? Yeah, and this is something that I encountered over and over again. People who are charged with these minor sort of harassing offenses they when the state discovers that their case against them is not very good they start offering deals to the accused. And when people protest that I'm not going to plead because I didn't do anything wrong they keep

2:29:51 Offering better and better and better deals, and no one can understand why they won't want to they won't plead guilty You know it's really sad that He's left Rolling Stone magazine because that was a good outlet for Taibbi stuff And you know now he's going to this Hokey WordPress blog people. Did you see the post from the editor John Cook? The one where he says No Whites! No That was a job opening...no on this Gren Greenwald. So they hired an editor which Greenwald really needs and they hired John Cook who I did he come from Gawker right? And he does a on the 14th Passover greetings from the editor, I guess he's a Jew, and he says hello my name is John Cook and as three weeks ago I became the editor-in-chief of The Intercept since then we haven't published much material on the site! And that's been on purpose

2:30:50 I'd like to take a moment to catch interested readers up on where we are and what you can expect from us over the coming weeks and months. Well, essentially he says you're not gonna get anything from us He says The decision began publishing was based on commitment due to continue the work of reporting blah blah blah which you know because Greenwald of course spilled the beans himself So wait, before you said that by the way. The post this was on April 14th the post before that was April 4th so for 10 whole days with this huge staff yeah they put they couldn't even post anything no and at this point this outfit is rudderless and if you read the comments people are just in sense because

2:31:44 You know Edward Snowden if you believe everything Glenn Greenwald green raw himself has said literally chose these the chosen ones of him and Laura and I guess Barton, but you know him and Laura to publish this information And now they're just like taking their time. This information doesn't belong to Glenn Greenwald or Laura Poitras It's America's information it's also my information And so now they're just well you know we're until we have completed the work of getting staffed up and conceptually prepared. How many people do they need? Let me let me read this to you, until we have completed the work of getting staffed

2:32:30 and conceptually prepared for the launch of a full-bore news operation that will be producing a steady stream of shit kicking stories, comma. The Intercept will be narrowly focusing on one thing and one thing only reporting out stories from the NSA archive as quickly and responsibly as is practicable." But you haven't really done that for a month at least they need to staff up to get shit kicking stories? This is a disaster. Yes, it is... thank you! It's not just a commercial disaster but you know it's so obvious that the union said this from day one they're hiring these people to shut them up and make them completely irrelevant and oh yeah let's just slow down everything to a trickle while we're at it what was staffing up she got like a whole staff lets see how many people staff do we have

2:33:32 1, 2, John Cook, Ryan Devereux. 1-2-3 4-5-6 7-8-9 10-11 12 13 14 15 16 and these are just the star names they've got to have interns and all kinds of stuff even got a black guy Andrew Gerald Jones who's he? I don't know Andrew Jones is a Brooklyn based journalist and commentator covering cultural affairs civil rights his work has been published at MSNBC Talking Points Memo The Raw Story and The Grio He's also made media appearances on RT Network and Huffington Post, HuffPost Live. And this isn't the whole staff because he's got everyone. But he's going to be doing a lot of work this Andrew Jones they're gonna make him work

2:34:16 I can tell you right now. Yeah, it's the black guy. Thanks John! That's what i'm doing...I'm not saying that as a positive thing is they make this poor one guy work. This is a racist operation the guy cook and I can't find it anymore. Luckily save pay jazz and bring up on the next show. No no we have it. He said no whites, no men. No more whites, no more men. And somebody called me on it. Hey, it's just because he was trying to get diversity and something on Twitter Oh yeah that's what we need diversity Since the technology reporting world is so poor, and by the way you were expected on Twit. I never got a note and I said so Chad never sent me a note I always confirm they don't have a confirmation from me It was just funny! I literally asked you after the show on Sunday hey are you in twit? No! But sometimes I can hear the way you say stuff You gotta get up earlier to fool me

2:35:16 I think you knew that there was something they might want you but you hadn't confirmed because he didn't feel like it. I never got a note to confirm It doesn't matter if I got a note and I did confirm That's one thing, but I never had a note to confront just love hearing and Dvorak is late That's my favorite. I'm like well next time on the show they're gonna be here about it Okay couple things first of all The the heart we were talking about the the Heartbleed logo this apparently was created. The logo was created, the branding was done by that that wacky security company Codenomicon. They're the ones that created it okay one of their own internal designers well Lena Snidate so Logo Gal

2:36:10 Which I think she kind of stole from danger mouse if you look at the it's I'd have to I'd call plagiarism actually No, let me take a look. Yeah danger Mouse has not that he has the same outline of heart So I'd say no bullcrap but also for them to brand this so quickly It is the future This is the future of bugs They're all gonna have a brand they're all gonna have a web page They're all gonna have a logo and there's all reasoning behind it. Oh you're talking about, yeah, there's a logo on Danger Mouse if you go to dangermousesite.com that says Rome and it's the same thing!

2:36:53 It's not even close to being here and it drips right in front of you, and it's got the same sub drip. Yeah so they stole it from Danger Mouse. Nice! This is Danger Mouse' thing And of course that whole outfit is sketchy to start with that they conveniently and coincidentally discovered the same bug on the same day as the CIA Google researcher. Yeah yeah coincidence? Then this was weird. This bug that you know, I Apparently incorrectly said of course you can track this. I got a barrage of people saying nope This is untrackable leaves no log notes No nothing so I'm interested how Canadian police were able to arrest this kid and

2:37:43 I'm sorry, 19 year old man and the theft of 900 Canadian taxpayers data sheets which was made vulnerable by the heart bleed bug. If they can't track it how did they find him? You're asking me! Yeah well because something stinks with this yeah yeah most of these things stink that's the problem Talking about stuff that stinks. So, up here Mimi's moaning and groaning about the Vaxxers they're called Vaxxers and everyone complains about the anti-vaccine people are called Vaxxers And so she gets a lot of grief and I say the thing to say to these people tell her you know if you get into an argument with one of them. Well, what's your standpoint? Is it why does she do what's the problem with that is she for against What's what's the give me position for good vaccines that make sense obviously The other ones are bullcrap right and she said just make sure to tell him that these guys are all exempt from any kind of lawsuit

2:38:41 Why is that? And once they became exempt, they were putting crap in these vacuums. Who knows what's in there? They don't care. There's no reason for quality control which is my argument again about using gamma radiation to make food safe because you'll be eating dog shit Literally. Yeah, that's a gay Mariah who gives a crap So meanwhile I run into this there's a bunch of it only got one clip But I've been running into this is a public relations campaign going on right now by the because she was listening to talk radio where she got irked about was the People saying well The only way they fix this is have a law let's have a law that requires everybody to be vaccinated so they can't complain and

2:39:20 So there's a propaganda campaign going on as we speak to promote vaccination and then to promote a law. So you can come pounding on the door until you get to take the HPV shot. Is there a clip for this? I do have a clip, I have one of the examples from propaganda from network television ABC and this is the chicken pox propaganda piece that was just scripted to death. The vast majority of doctors agree that vaccinating children against certain illnesses is the best way to protect them But there are still a number of parents who refuse vaccinations for their kids. And now, there are some going as far as buying chicken pox lollipops as sort of natural vaccination and throwing so-called pox parties. Joining us now to discuss the dangers of all this is pediatrician and contributor to babysitter dot com Dr Alana Levine. Dr Levine thank you so much for joining us I can't believe that parents are doing this what is the thinking behind having your child lick

2:40:18 a chicken pox lollipop. I know it sounds crazy to me too, in the old school pre-vaccine era people used to throw chickenpox parties if one person in the community had the chicken pox they knew that everybody was going eventually get it so why not get at control time when family was ready for let all the siblings and family get it at the same time and get out of the house made a little bit more sense. But now that we have a vaccine, it's safe and effective against preventing chickenpox. And it's alive. Yeah I was one of those kids raised in the pre-chicken pox vaccination era. Mm hmm. Never heard of such a thing. I'd never heard of it either either. It's bullcrap she made this up

2:41:03 I don't see it in the literature. I've never heard of it myself, didn't experience it... What you mean? You mean of the chickenpox parties? Yeah when you're a kid! Oh no this happened maybe two or three years ago and its something new, I'd never heard about it, not rampant. Now they are back projecting, this is the gold thing in the mindset of American public current thinking but the fact that it's a lie There's nothing you won't read about it in a novel. You won't find an old news story about it I was there, I never had chickenpox vaccine and I don't remember doing these parties you got chicken pox when you got chicken pox! I remember parties where we'd like spun the bottle

2:41:44 Yes, we did that too. We didn't do chicken pox party so this is a lie to me. But if let her finish saying because what people don't realize is it's not just a mild disease in all children some people some children get the pox they itch they have some fever they miss a couple days of school and then they're okay but in the pre vaccine era somewhere between 100 and 150 children died each year of the chickenpox can you imagine being a really do we have some flu vaccine 40,000 people die each year yeah so a hundred kids really well the kids John come on now children yeah I mean there's only one thing we have to do

2:42:31 That's how you sell something. Who willingly exposes their child to that type of situation? And that's what these chicken pox lollipops are, right? Right so the idea behind them and thankfully those... Who is this woman where she from again She is some 20-something chick from some hospital. She's a doctor now you got it We do well go back and listen in a minute this year They always say she's from blah blah, and you know before you know it It's like one of these me it's a nonprofit I'm sure yeah Well, it could be but you'll go back and get taken down But the idea behind them was if there was a child who had the chickenpox He or she would lick this lollipop And then you could sort of have like a cyber chicken pox party where you can distribute these lollipops around

2:43:12 A cyber chicken pox party? Oh yeah! Hey, alright kids on the count of three lick the lolly. They probably wouldn't have been very effective anyway but the point is that why would a parent want to do this expose their child to germs from a stranger aren't there some also serious dangers involved? Serious dangers?! You don't know what's on those lollipops Yeah there could be sugar on there or something food coloring I don't know who sending them i certainly would as a parent ever allow my child, I mean i wouldn't allow my child to have opened Halloween candy. Why would I allow them to have a lollipop that was sent from the stranger? Alright let's talk about the actual chicken pox vaccine is it an effective vaccine? It is an effective vaccine and actually roughly nine out of ten children who receive both doses of the vaccines are closest... Yeah because its so effective you have to get a booster you see

2:44:07 People that, you know... the campaign to belittle people who question this stuff and who of course like you and I have the knowledge that all pharmaceutical companies are immune from prosecution for vaccinations. That all 2010 financials showed vaccinations as the big bonanza for these companies and there's a lot in there People get shouted down when you say, hey maybe this is a little crazy what's going on. Two! Not one but two and I'm sure each is $150. The recommended schedule will be immune to the chickenpox and actually nearly 100% of those children will be protected from having severe disease so even if you do get a few pox generally it's fewer than 50 and its really mild case Wait a minute does thing work or not?

2:45:00 Apparently not. You get 50 pucks? Yeah, you know J.C., Buzzkill Jr got the chicken pox when he was about 11? He had 14 pucks! It was like ridiculously mild and he got it naturally but you're gonna get 50 puck if you take this shot Oh man this is great What are the potential risks associated with the inoculation Well, the most common side effects are some mild soreness or redness at the site of the injection. Sometimes you can get a low-grade fever and also get a little bit of a rash but these are really minor things when you compare them to the risk for chickenpox I had chicken pox as a kid there was no vaccine for it do parents need all parents need to vaccinate their kids for chickenpox? Let me guess yeah decide not too

2:45:50 Well, my recommendation is for all of my patients and for all children really to be vaccinated against the chickenpox. There are some children who are too sick or for some reason cannot get the chicken pox vaccine and I feel that it's a public health responsibility to protect these children as well. So I recommend universal chicken pox vaccine for anyone who's eligible. They're dangerous to the whole population, for a few parents that decide to abstain? That's exactly right and if you have a pregnant woman in a grocery store who is not immune and you bring your child with you to the grocery store and your child has the chicken pox well then now you've just affected this mother and her unborn child And your child has just killed

2:46:28 to you a little baby an unborn child some really important considerations dr alana levine thank you so much oh it's a pleasure i gotta tell you have you seen any of these vaccination schedules for the for the kids these days oh they're just like a laundry list yeah and it's and you know oh your three months you get all this and you know it's your mom's rubella No, it's unbelievable how big these lists are. They used to be just about five really bad things. Diphtheria... Okay I'll take that shot but now it's just everything under the sun and HPV is thrown in there too all the time. Two shots for HPV? Then the thing that is upsetting

2:47:10 whenever you say anything about this, you're shouted down. There was an article... Oh, you're a vaxxer! You're one of those! You don't believe in vaccines? I read this... where was this?... there was a... I think it's the New York Times, I'm trying to find it now that says that smarter people are more trusting and this is very interesting from the Obama bot perspective The higher your IQ, the more likely you are to trust what the government has to tell you. Where did this come from? Yeah I'm looking...I'm trying to find it right now Oh that's a beauty! I think it was New York Times ummm.... I know But it could be bullshit too and it could be a propaganda thing where you say okay let's tell all the smart people that if somebody is an Obama bot lets them they're smart

2:48:08 You're smart to believe the government. I like the idea of telling people they are smart for believing the government And i think just the word smart by itself is a really good one That's smart of you Yeah, and yeah uh...I remember we used have a woman on our here it is maybe wasn't the new york times let me see what is that the atlantic? I'm sorry that doesn't quite cut it does it Is the Atlantic any good? Well its an intellectual, this left uh... It's a lefty operation Let's see what it says here It's a real study from Noah Carl and Francesco Biliari at the University of Oxford. They analyzed data from the General Social Survey, a nationally representative U.S. public opinion survey administered every one to two years results both vocabulary and question comprehension were positively correlated with generalized trust

2:49:01 Those with the highest vocab scores were 34% more likely to trust others than those with the lowest scores. And someone who had a good perceived understanding of the survey questions was 11% more likely to trust others than someone with a perceived poor understanding." So, headline study! Smarter people are more trusting. Yeah there you go Well it makes a lot of sense But when you actually look into it and yeah and you know... It's like the professor, you know. The professor he tweeted a thing and put it on Facebook and was this link to... I think i showed it to you once after the show is like does do vaccines cause autism dot com or something like that? Yeah! And then it goes through page that they fucking don't you stupid moron or something like that Oh yeah right there which is lame. But its this kind of behavior

2:50:00 And of course these are people who are childless by choice, which makes it even that more really disgusting. Because when you have a child and you have to fight your school not letting your kids in because they don't have their vaccinations... the sports club, the swimming pool, any of this stuff! Then you look at the list it's crazy If I was a doctor, and we should have doctors that do stuff like they do for the medical marijuana. Like yeah oh yeah you got a shot yeah i'll sign off on that yeah I gave it to him. You know polio sure what else is necessary Dr. Dvorak? Diphtheria absolutely What is diphtheria some pooping disease It's a horrible disease yes

2:50:45 I would say, uh...I think the whooping cough thing is probably a plus. Pertussis? Is that what that is? Yeah pertussis. Measles, mumps maybe but then again i'm not convinced of that but mumps bad if you get it as an adult so maybe should get the shot chickenpox you know two shots doesn't make sense well this there is a full-on assault on children in general And who is responsible or who, you know what your role as a parent is. This was a piece... Tetanus is also good for kids. Yeah but you can get tetanus You don't want to get tetanus? No So if you step on a rusty nail or something Well our kids are always fooling around New York Times Keith Robinson Angel L Harris Parental involvement is overrated

2:51:40 Now this is from the New York Times. I love these guys! Do you know these guys? No, i'm just saying these people they're probably childless too That I don't know but here it is most people ask whether parental involvement benefits children academically would say of course it does But, evidence from our research suggests otherwise. In fact most forms of parental involvement like observing a child's class, contacting the school about a child's behavior helping to decide a child high school courses or helping a child with homework do not improve student achievement in some cases they actually hinder it This is the thing that's cropping up in the Common Core argument. And the people who are teaching Common Core, you know, they kids come home and say dad I can't figure out what this is why don't we just add 2 plus 3 to get 5? You know it's five, I can do on my fingers, I got five fingers 1-2,1-2-3 oh its five!

2:52:35 why do I have to use this line, I got to put circles around the numbers what is all this and they gave oh geez okay and so the parents start to teach them you know old-fashioned arithmetic mm-hmm and they go back to school on there they're good at it but they can't do that. Joe's you get the answer you had 111 plus 40 and they immediately know that its 151 and then... But after show it with a bunch of bull crap and then they say, why come you didn't show it? You just put 151. Yeah well because that's what it is! Well you got to show it where'd you get this idea my dad taught me everything. No no and this brings us to Project Lead the Way. Oh yes John project lead the way pltw.org another fine nonprofit organization

2:53:28 who brought in $13 million dollars in the past year, have a total kitty of about 23 million dollars. And this project Lead The Way... they train teachers to lead the way and the Common Core with STEM and helping to make everything just right for our children. I have a couple of clips here from Vince Bertram. Vince Bertram... I'm sorry Dr. Vince Bertram Since his appointment in June 2011, Project Lead the Way has experienced record program growth of over 50% and flourished to serve the nation in more than 5,000 schools reaching nearly 600,000 students annually. Under his leadership more than 10,000 PLTW teachers have been trained sponsor and partner support of PLTW has increased Now I pulled these uh the nine the form 990 for this outfit

2:54:32 I hate nonprofits. It's gotten so bad where i don't even want to give money to if you're a non-profit screw you, I hate you! So their total what do they have end of year 23 million dollars let's see with this nonprofit let's just look at the salaries for a moment oh yeah okay um the chairman...I'm sorry Vince Bertram he's the CEO his annual salary is $355 000 non-profit organization. Right, plus expenses? Oh of course! The CFO 185 the COO 206 the chief program officer what are you doing okay 188 Chief Development Officer what are you doing 198 Chief Engagement Officer getting people engaged 155 this is a way I see it is a bribe organization

2:55:34 If you look at what they've done with their money, what they do is they just give grants to all of these institutions. So it's all about $10,000 so here's the Abington Heights School District ten thousand dollars ACES Xavier Educational System in Appleton Wisconsin ten thousand dollars then we have a the Anok Hennepin School District in Minnesota, $166,000. They must have been a tough one to convince to get on the Common Core! or whatever it is you're peddling, you creeps. I'm telling... let's listen to Vince and we'll find out exactly what he is doing. Project Lead the Way as a mission-driven organization It's a mission driven? Mission driven! Mission driven organization Yes Focused on preparing students for this global economy Preparing them for the global economy And by the way when you look at the board of directors its all corporate guys Oh don't worry We're getting to that

2:56:32 The statistics we heard at the outset of this committee meeting can be described as nothing else other than a crisis. Crisis! We have a crisis, ladies and gentlemen, a crisis because we need more slaves for our technology companies. We don't want leaders, we don't want writers, we don't want musicians, we don't want poets Now, we need slaves in America. In America? And it's going to require all of us working together to solve it Yes We're the leading provider of STEM education for middle and high schools across the country That's right! They are a leading provider We are in all 50 states including the District of Columbia and in 2013 will be over 5,000 middle and high schools with over 500,000 students engaged in our program

2:57:21 In 2014 we will introduce an elementary school program as well. We'll get them while they're young! Provide a K-12 solution, as well as introduction of computer science and software engineering. Ah, we need a k-12 solution John This guy walked right out of the VC meeting Yes, we needed to k-12 solution to get kids to learn how to program Along with our engineering and biomedical science programs Ah yes, biomedical sciences The thing about Project Lead the Way is One is it's scalable. Oh, it's scalable! Yes! Oh fantastic! We start with a vision... It was terms of scale going to use... A lot. Upstate New York being in 12 schools and today we're over 5,000. Five thousand because its scales so well? And with last year over 20% growth

2:58:07 We're also for all students. We're in all school types, from urban to suburban public charter schools private parochial small and large schools rural and as we do it all well is low-income and affluent schools We're also a sustainable organization. A sustainable organization? They're green! One that is built on strength and operational excellence so that we can continue to advance this important mission across our nation Oh my goodness, I'm hard just thinking about it But our program is build on three key pillars Aha! One is providing world class curriculum Yes Common Core That's engaging for students It's standards based, aligned with industry Yes And post-secondary expectations

2:58:53 Aligned with industry and post-secondary expectations, what does that mean John? Wow! Well that means what it means. It means they're all in bed with industry and they're producing what you said earlier slaves. But what is post secondary expectation? Well, that means you expect to go to college. Oh okay. That is engaging for students and standards-based it's aligned with industry and postsecondary expectations its project activity based most importantly we We teach kids how to think critically, how to problem solve and how to collaborate the type of skills required in the workplace. So think critically is of course it means no religion you gotta think critical about stuff like that now let's talk about these great partnerships because

2:59:45 Projects lead the way. Not only are they scalable, sustainable and providing world-class educational standards based tools and leadership secondary base into the workplace slaves They've got partners. No one is going to solve this problem alone. Aha, we need partners! And it's not going to be just in K-12 education or higher education but its a seamless pipeline A pipeline is what we need We needed a pipeline where the slaves come out of the uterus and then were right there putting them into pipeline pushing them through to our partners So for us some examples such as California Where Next Ed in Sacramento

3:00:24 is really moving toward a statewide implementation of Project Away. We've grown from five schools in the mid-2000s, now we're 400 schools but it's because not only NextEd's vision but also companies like Intel whose helping grow and sustain programs in California across the nation. Thank you, Intel. Great partner in Chevron. Chevron! Who has invested millions of dollars in Project Away Schools to provide this kind of opportunity for students For the pipeline? Companies like Autodesk. At the same time, we have companies like Toyota. That's using Project Lead the way recruiting our students into their advanced manufacturing technician program The Advanced Manufacturing Technician Program Yeah, that says assembly line. It says assembly line! Screw on bolt remove new bolt screw on bolt remove We had our first cohort that graduated in their AMT program in Georgetown Kentucky last May and all of our students did exceptionally well and now have opportunities to work for Toyota

3:01:23 Going out into all their North American facilities recruiting PLTW students into an advanced manufacturing technician program. The advanced manu- let's just, let's just Google this for a second hold on Let's do this Toyota Manufacturing technicians is a guy who pushes the button on a machine. Manufacturing Technician Let's just see I have not Googled this but here we go The AMT, the Toyota Advanced Manufacturing Technician Program. Let's see what is the AMT program? Includes a two-year degree in computer integrated manufacturing robotics students earn a wage while attending college and gain priceless work experience with a global manufacturing leader oh my goodness this is great! Students graduates hired by Toyota have the potential to earn as much as $64,000 yearly

3:02:23 Plus excellent benefits. The potential! Yeah, here's a 30 second clip that they have... What is this? Indiana is the most manufacturing intensive state per capita in the nation It's high growth and high tech But there's a skills gap Indiana companies need skilled programmers of automated systems You literally see some kids with a drill Yeah, you'll be on the assembly line. That's what it means that will allow our students to earn associate degrees and for some to go on to baccalaureate degrees Oh, you might actually get a real degree Okay We also enjoy great support from the aerospace industries Association Ah yes One program that is endorsed by AIA But its companies like Boeing that provide great support across the nation and Rolls-Royce Rolls Royce! And a great partner in Lockheed Martin Lockheed Martin Companies are absolutely committed to this work

3:03:16 to slaves. This is a... I mean this is not an unusual thing historically, but essentially what they're doing is they're taking the regular school educational system and turning it into technical education which is tech education right which used to be vocational school yeah they're essentially making everyone so in other words you're not going uneducated largely, but you're gonna be good. You'll be able to do some of these things that will give you a job in Toyota but of course you won't learn any liberal stuff that would make you want to make a union there because it's not unionized and free which is good or bad whatever the point is that you're just going to be some sort of dummy

3:04:01 with a vocational education and you'll be working, you make a job. It's not a bad thing but it seems as though they're taking and trying to make everybody into this like you said no artists yeah this is the problem and musicians but the setup is so large if you really step back and I think we're uniquely qualified to be able to do that If you step back and look at the Common Core State Standards which are driving these STEM Really driving it very hard and there's this then you bring out these OECD bullcrap numbers that show all we suck so bad China is kicking our ass and it really turns out It's a like a one percentage point difference, but they make the graph. They skew the graph And by the way everybody's country looks stupid in these results except China

3:04:49 And then you have the military-industrial educational complex literally working with the government, handing out student loans which no one can repay unless oh I don't know maybe you're in the AMT Toyota assembly line program. Because when you get your first paycheck that's when you start paying back your loan it's a slave system And I don't mind if people want to put their children into that. That's fine, we certainly need... It's up to them? Yeah but they're going to shove it down everybody's throat! But say we're going to have a skills gap because everyone wants to be what? A lawyer is that I mean what is it exactly? No lawyers allowed. Why don't we just stop pretending that we all need to go to college then? It would be much easier

3:05:41 Well, it's nice to get him at least somewhat into college so you can gouge him with that those student loans. Yeah! Then they're stuck there slaves for God knows how long forever It is kind of the definition of enslavement You said this is the only way you can go and The only way you can go if you have to follow project lead the way and then lead the way leads you right into a program where you you're going to have to pay for this one way or the other It's okay, I mean if that is what we all agree on. This stuff is being snuck in the back door

3:06:18 Well, I don't... And it's using Common Core to be the shoehorn. They don't want anybody talking to their kids. There are a lot of negative things about this. You can't teach your kid anything yourself. Give the kid to the state and let the state determine. We believe this kid should be working for Toyota in Kentucky. Yeah and have a consistent program to make homeschooling look like religious nut jobs. Which by the way being a homeschooler we did a lot of research the number of religious nut jobs is really a minority. The homeschooling world is about 1 quarter Christians, 1 quarter Muslims, 1 quarter Jews and 1 quarter secular and it's pretty evenly balanced and they all work together well I mean it just works fine isn't that not a bad system at all but the Christian group is the one that they keep

3:07:11 focusing on because you know some of them make a lot of noise or whatever nobody ever talks about the other ones no all right well I do have a kind of a corny and kind of an interesting clip we got to get out of here man what are we doing this is way too long one more thing to do alright yeah i know we've gone over time Want to announce the affiliates? Going overtime on our time. That's right You were the your local news will be starting later Because of the length of this broadcast and it's all Ellen's fault because she had to do another one those selfies Exactly, so I'm gonna look into this we'll talk about on the show after next and this is cafe impact I want you to tell me what you think okay here We go touch

3:07:58 and how you engage with the person that you are trying to quote unquote transform their life is huge. Our social entrepreneurs are people who have been on the front lines of social change I've learned so much from talking with them This is Cafe Impact, and I'm Jonathan Lewis Be prepared to grow yourself. Don't get into this business thinking that you know everything and that you are coming to help someone else transform their lives, into what? Being you? Are you really someone they want to transform into? You have to be prepared to grow and transform yourself if you wanna get into the game of transformation It's kind of like the oxygen mask thing Like in a plane where they say put your own oxygen mask on before you help others who are sitting next to you

3:08:47 I have a lot of people who come to me who say, oh i want to work for you and their social skills are really not yet there. And it's not because they're not good and wonderful people but it's because they haven't done a lot of personal work on like what do I love? What am I good at? Who am I? I mean I spend a lot of time... I might shoot myself before we get to the end What exactly is going on here? I was gonna ask, I was gonna actually premise this with...I want to see how much of this you can take. Well i got through one minute and six seconds of it It's about..this operation called Caffe...it's a bunch series of interviews on Cafe Impact You can look it up later because we're finishing the show And it is about this whole thing This all fits in with everything that we've been talking about which is personal transformation You gotta change the way

3:09:32 are. We're two a-holes apparently who are not into any of this stuff and we're very skeptical, and this is not a good thing to be! And it's a good thing that I mean...I think our listeners find it entertaining but apparently we shouldn't be this way at all. And we'll talk about this more after Easter. Well let me listen more here. As you probably know Jonathan I go on 10 day silent retreats. I'm somebody who spends a lot of time just trying A ten day silent retreat? He goes on a lot of them by the way. Yeah, I'd take that! Can i have a 10 day silent retreat? Really?! Seriously!? That would be nice! To understand my place in the world and how I want my work to impact people What's an example of this social skill that you find typically lacking

3:10:18 self-awareness about how you impact other people. For example, you may be required let's say to take care of a young boy that has autism You start realizing that your inability to get them to do what you think is your proper caregiving thing has been screwed up because you're ticked off about something Oh man! No no no Why are you, is this what you watch? You're a thrill seeker my friend. You are... I mean that's not.. I can't listen to him We'll talk more about this in the future shows Yeah, yes Okay Meanwhile the FBI plans have 52 million photos in its national recognition database by next year Wear glasses And hat

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