Episode 606 · Sunday, 6 April 2014

Get Ready to Rubble

Missing billions at the State Department and a Malaysian cover-up collide with corporate school pipelines and the suspicious death of a high-profile Dutch banking executive.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 606

About this episode

Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim has publicly accused the government of withholding military radar data regarding the disappearance of flight MH370. Ibrahim, a former Minister of Defense, suggests the silence from regional powers like Indonesia and the failure of Australia’s Jindalee radar to detect the aircraft point toward gross incompetence or a deliberate cover-up. Meanwhile, CNN ratings have doubled as network chief Jeff Zucker maintains around-the-clock coverage of the search, even as families like Sarah Bajc express skepticism over official narratives.

In Washington, a State Department Inspector General report reveals $6 billion in contractor funding went missing during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State. Clinton recently pivoted to a satellite appearance for a San Diego keynote to avoid protests from Benghazi victim mother Pat Smith. Simultaneously, former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell faced scrutiny for his Charlie Rose interview, which critics labeled a scripted attempt to distance the agency from the failed Benghazi protest narrative. In Europe, thousands of protesters in Brussels clashed with police over EU austerity measures, resulting in a lockdown of the U.S. embassy that went largely ignored by American mainstream media.

John C. Dvorak celebrates his 62nd birthday alongside the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto as the show transitions to a new video vault auction inspired by the Wu-Tang Clan’s single-copy album gimmick. Adam Curry details the rise of corporate-sponsored STEM pipelines in Chicago schools while Sir Nutting is officially knighted into the No Agenda Round Table. The program concludes with an analysis of the Dutch Participation Society and the suspicious death of former ABN Amro CEO Jan Peter Schmittmann.


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CHAPTER 01 / 33 Discussion

Satoshi Nakamoto, John C. Dvorak Birthday and Travel Fatigue

Adam Curry wishes John C. Dvorak a happy 62nd birthday, noting it coincides with the birthday of Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Dvorak describes his low-key celebration involving gardening and watching NCAA basketball. The conversation shifts to the misery of early morning flights and travel fatigue, leading to a discussion about an upcoming trip to Amsterdam for a surprise party.

satoshi nakamoto· bitcoin· amsterdam· travel fatigue· birthday· jc dvorak· adam curry

00:00 Who are these people kidding? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday April 6th 2014 it's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 606 This is no agenda Preparing for my underwater audible event here in FEMA Region Six at the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin Texas In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am a day older I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! That's right and happy birthday to you. And thank you very much and thanks everyone who wished me a happy birthday, all the people who tweeted a happy birthday and all the rest of it. Did you get my voicemail?

00:41 Yes I did as a matter of fact. I responded to it. You didn't respond, you...I called you! You didn't call me back that's not responding. I sent you a text back said thanks. All right do you know that so you celebrated yesterday April 5th which is coincidentally also the birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto Huh inventor of Bitcoin Interesting I think not and you have such a negative stance on bitcoin. I've always wondered about that boy It's working well Yes, did you reach me? Oh? I'm in the process of doing that now so what so you send out a newsletter to everybody which was more like a personal email and

01:34 Yes, the one I do on Saturday. And you said, uh...I'm taking the day off! So what did you do on your birthday day-off? Uhh....I didn't do anything different I cooked. You know, watched some NCAA basketball. Oh wow hot! Yeah yeah. Hey did you get any nice gifts? I gardened. You gardened?! Well i'm a green thumb. What did you garden? I had some weeds growing in the backyard that you need chopping down oh hey and did you get any nice gifts I got a very interesting book from JC and that was my sum total of all my gifts. Although, I have to say that Jay always like will make a piece of art or something for me but i just haven't gotten it yet she shipped it off. She shipped it off late like one of those oh crap is his birthday tomorrow? Totally! The older you get the less people care right and even the kids are like eh whatever again yeah and you don't even care really

02:36 Well, I'm not a big fan of the birthday. It's just like a reminder that you're getting old and you're going to drop dead eventually and it just seems to me to be something you don't really want to celebrate. Yay! I am older! Did you do anything for your 50th? Did you have a big one for that? No. Mickey is planning something for me. Oh, surprise party? Well not really because i know its being held in Amsterdam and im going Oh, right. I never got my invite Well, i don't think they've gone out yet oh okay but i guess there's no to that let me actually go it's this is no surprise you're coming to my surprise party and if you actually show up that will be some surprise yeah yeah i agree with that theory it was surprised me you may actually even buy a ticket and still not go That happens!

03:24 Over the years, you know I should mention this with people who like to travel. You get tired of traveling and then if you have especially take a really early flight like 6am or 7am when you have to be at the airport it's six or four. You wake up and you calculate that number of hours of sleep you got and how miserable you're going to be and if you're gonna maybe fall asleep at the wheel on the way to the airport and kill yourself, you don't want that to happen. And so you make a decision at the last minute, you say, I don't think i'm going to go unless it's a paid speech. That's different! Even that has to be above a certain level? Yeah or someplace that would really be interesting You're wise man John C. Dvorak So Amsterdam... It's not like haven't been to Amsterdam. I'm sure its changed alot

CHAPTER 02 / 33 Discussion

National Volunteer Week, Presidential Proclamations and Listener Feedback

The hosts examine recent presidential proclamations from the Federal Register, including National Volunteer Week and National Crime Victims’ Rights Week. They note the 20th anniversary of the Violence Against Women Act. Adam Curry mentions receiving critical emails from listeners regarding Dvorak's takes on the Federal Reserve and Special Drawing Rights (SDR).

national volunteer week· violence against women act· barack obama· federal register· crime victims rights week

04:13 Yeah, not for the better. Anyway so happy birthday! Happy birthday very good it was uh... So besides it being Satoshi Nakamoto's birthday by coincidence we've started a new week here we have some presidential proclamations love to check those out because its official you know this is put into the federal register right okay but let me do differently I'm going to give you the proclamation and your going to guess the week This is a week. It's not a month, it is a special week I'm sorry this like a special week? Yeah you know the president says so something something week Okay and your going to tell me what the proclamation is? Yes I have to guess what the week is Let see if you can do it Through countless acts of kindness generosity and service Americans recognize that we are all bound together That we move this country forward by giving ourselves to others And caring for those around us

05:12 Every day Americans carry forward the tradition of service embedded in our character as a people and as we celebrate dot-dot-dot week SNM week Wow BDSM week I think is what you're looking at. Yes, sir. Well, sorry Oz also wrong National Volunteer Week yeah very thing very similar so by performing acts of service you know did you make a good point here we can shape a nation big enough and bold enough to accommodate the kinkiness of all our people it would fit right in actually we should have a national BDSM week I like that but but now volunteers have to share this week it's not just national people volunteer because there's nothing else to do nowadays hmm

06:12 I like the ones, I was listening to some TV report. You know if you can't...you don't want to have a lousy worker they've discovered that people with the same skill sets if they're out of work the longest one has been working more recently it was when he gets hired ninety percent at the time so there advising people to take a bunch of volunteer jobs and put that on your resume oh really yeah kind of like no agenda artist Yeah, you could say that you're a no agenda artist. It's valid for ya. It's also National Crime Victims Rights Week as this year marks 30 years since the passage of the Victims of Crime Act and the Family Violence Prevention and Services Act in two decades... And it stopped that great thing about that act is it stopped this sort of thing. Stopped yeah stopped it in its tracks. No more violence

07:05 And two decades since the Violence Against Women Act became law. Really? Has it only been 20 years since we aren't allowed to beat our women? That's kind of... Unless you're Muslim? Okay, never mind. I'm sorry, I said that. I don't want any letters. Wow wow alright nice Send your letters to Adam Well they send everything else to me that is for you Did you get that email that I sent you? Yeah, I did. You're grousing about it. Every single time you say something people send me an email... And he sends this to ME! Do you know how many people sent me an email about your take on the SDR and the Federal Reserve and printing money they're all bitching at me like why are you doing this?! I think if has become a meme of the show if I say something is either out-of-order or crazy

07:59 debatable, you get the email. I think that has become what people do because they figure you're gonna have...I don't know argue against me I don't like it. That must be it, they think you're going to take up their gauntlet and argue against me in my opinion? But they're doing after the fact after I've already argued a point with you regardless of what comes out of it then they are like yeah man John's full of it! I don't need to know that! John is full of it... Anyway ummm..I am from the future as you know John

CHAPTER 03 / 33 Discussion

Anwar Ibrahim, Malaysian Government Incompetence and Flight MH370

Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim criticizes the Malaysian government's handling of missing flight MH370, specifically questioning the withholding of military radar data. Ibrahim, a former Minister of Defense, suggests the government is hiding incompetence or nefarious actions. The discussion covers the pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, and his personal connection to Ibrahim's family.

anwar ibrahim· malaysia· mh370· kuala lumpur· zaharie ahmad shah· radar data

08:35 Yes, yes. I know you've been bragging about this. I think probably to more people than me No no only to my wife have not bragged about it to anybody but no sooner had I said Watch out and look what happens with Malaysia then BAM on war on war being a burr Ibrahim is everywhere everywhere He is the opposition leader in Malaysia And so you have a couple of clips here and let me see Yeah, here we go. This is I think on British TV

09:12 and this is kind of a story in a nutshell but it's cool how he was saying the exact same thing everywhere, really riling everybody up. They have the capacity capability to detect all flight movements from south of Thailand to central Peninsular Malaya and now they tell us they are not able to do so then I said why are they not releasing information what have they seen from their data So do you think the government knows what happened? I'm sorry, this must be CNN. What happened to MH370? There's no way for a minister of defense to say we don't know the reading on the radar

09:54 Now, that is why we are directing the questions specifically to him. We raise this question in Parliament. We ask for the setting up of a select committee to allow for thorough discussions for us to support the government efforts and initiative." This actually goes further than I even expected. So he is not only in opposition, he was Minister of Defence, he purchased the radar that he's talking about when he was Minister of Defense, so he knows apparently how great it is. and now he's doing all kinds of parliamentary inquiry and stirring up quite the ruckus there in Malaysia. But they have rejected it, we asked for a debate in parliament this was even rejected so we can't have a system of...a parliamentary system without accountability Do you think its just that they're covering up that they were incompetent or do you think that their covering something more nefarious? Now my thesis was they're going to be called out as incompetent but

10:50 But if I had really thought back to when i was living in the future, I would have known that it's going much further than that. Initially I thought they're just pure incompetence but when they continue to conceal information, I have grounds be more suspicious and I have demanded this open public explanation and a release of this information And he has a little more... He has a few more arrows in his quiver. for when the proverbial crapola hits the fan there. And one of the theories out there is that the pilot deliberately did something to this plane, obviously you're familiar with that theory but this... The theory I'm talking about, the motive behind it is you That you were removed from the political arena He was a big supporter of yours and he brought his plane down in protest Wait for it Do you believe that could be true?

11:47 Alright, millions of Malaysians disgusted by the manner the media has been orchestrated. The judiciary has been used by the government to punish opposition leaders It's not me! There are five six members of parliament in the row Yay To be punished or imprisoned Or to be denied their seat They're crazy over there in Malaysia John I think we should get rid of that goverment They're no good People... brought in the elections and elect a broad we want to keep it two percent of the problem on the time is not a question all of people have been more teeth now here comes uh... a little below my good that i didn't know how many people at this ground up you're you take any cab or taxi malaysia in guadeloupe will most of them are just disgusted with the government but then they do not hide their taxes this logic

12:37 I love it. Hey, people are all pissed off in Malaysia but they don't hijack their cabs? They don't hijack the bus? They don't do that?! Similarly about the plane! I'm not denying the fact that i know him He's a man who has strong passion for democracy For rule of law We're talking about the pilot here Yeah, now here's something I really didn't know about this pilot business. Yeah but the pilot Zahary the pilot is true and i've had discussions with him he is also related to my daughter-in-law Oh! Related to his daughter in law? Okay Doesn't get much better than that It's pretty funny So then we have this other shill who I've been tracking Sarah Bejak She's the actress that we identified who's a so called partner

CHAPTER 04 / 33 Discussion

Sarah Bajc, CNN Coverage and South China Sea Pulse Signals

Sarah Bajc, partner of a passenger on MH370, appears on CNN expressing her belief that the flight is intact and passengers are alive. The hosts analyze her Skype interview from Malaysia, noting strange background audio and her refusal to attend briefings in China. Additionally, they discuss reports from China's Xinhua news agency regarding a pulse signal detected in the Indian Ocean.

sarah bajc· cnn· xinhua news· kuala lumpur· skype· mh370

13:24 I've looked at her Facebook page and a lot of people are on this by the way. There are people who have torn apart every single picture she has on her Facebook page, which of course only started the day the plane went down and she's writing every post in our Facebook page as if she's writing to her so-called partner in real time like he's still alive It's really, it's kind of creepy actually. Yeah... So she gets on with Aaron And of course she's not as distraught as you'd think she would be and she is now apparently in Malaysia. You've been in my thoughts and our viewers' thoughts since you were on this program... Yeah, into my thoughts! Just days ago how are you doing now? I've stabilized a little bit This is how you talk, I've stabilized yes from the MKUltra programming clearly

14:18 My God, this is great stuff. This is an unfolding Clancy novel! I think the first couple of days were just excruciating they just ripped me apart and then you know we had several weeks of misleads and misinformation that constantly changed but in this last week I think I've come to a realization that that for sure the flight is still intact and the passengers are still alive because the sequence of information we've been given actually all points to that. And that was a common theme at the meeting with the families. That's a good question, because she is in Malaysia and she's on Skype

15:01 And you can see out the back, at the back of her there's a window and it looks like a vast kind of wasteland. Those are the birds which I guess are Malaysian birds? Here here's the deal... That's sweetened! This is an upbeat belief she's believing in this fairy tale or not fairy tale or whatever scripted and they put these birds in there to make you feel better. Could be but I think the Skype stuff is pretty credible It's just birds sound like they're in the room. Well, they may be Then maybe a recording of birds in the room but it's not a little weird Okay go on you think that's weird Listen to this little factoid which we don't understand or know about her at that briefing for the family members in Kuala Lumpur Did you get any new information? Or anything to answer your questions

15:51 We didn't. The only thing that they did is rehash all of the same evidence that they have been providing up until now with the same interpretation, so they have a single path of pursuit which is there has been a crash. That's the only thing they seem to be exploring and they completely and utterly avoid any of the questions that have been brought to the table about the obvious holes in their story. So, I never actually went to any of the family briefings in China. I steered clear of them for many obvious reasons. Hello? Erin... What are the obvious reasons she wouldn't go to China?

16:40 Yeah. What are the many obvious reasons and... Well, Erin's a good journalist she'll hold right in on that Let me just check let me roll it back and let's make sure that she jumps right in there Clear of them for many obvious reasons but this one here in Malaysia was very I think between the birds heard some crickets there all of us said interesting Malaysians are taking much more logical much more calm approach. There were several representatives from families who just kept asking the same questions." And the China thing is weird because all of a sudden there was this new memo apparently that came out on CNN which I saw later in the day...

17:22 And haven't we had conversations thus far in the process about their purported lack of sharing satellite imagery? And when they did share satellite imagery, it seemed that the image that they shared was doctored. Was blurry Also it would be just two hours prior to this news breaking that the Malaysians would have had a press conference which I watched in my hotel room. They didn't say anything about this at a minimum it points to dysfunction in terms of the sharing of information and I've been told reported repeatedly by all the experts that the depth of the ocean poses challenges and in order to find the pinger you'd have to be right on top of it

18:00 I guess the response to my own skepticism is to say maybe the Chinese had this information all along and weren't sharing it. This messed me up a little bit like well hold on a second we're supposed to be messing with the Malaysians not the Chinese but then of course this is because... It's a twofer! Well you see that I think here was what happened, the Chinese come out and it was on their Xinhua news website And they say, oh we've discovered a pulse signal. Now really the way that the headlines carried... The Xinhua news site was pretty clear it's like you know let's there's nothing for sure you know we've got an audible event underwater I don't really know what it is but the Chinese put that out there and I think they're trying to horn in on our action of screwing the Malaysians Of course they want to distract from it and the whole thing is a mess now John

18:59 I think we've got this crazy actress. Well, when you come up with a scenario and then declare it a mess... Now this phony woman... She's got more beauties by the way There's more good-looking women that brings on? No, no. She's got more... More gems! Here is the last gem up I'll skip a couple this is it's all great but I refuse to believe that the Malaysian military ignored a 777 in their airspace uh... there was one of the family members are young gentleman on who pushed forward an idea that he had had notice from people she knew his handler um... that the jet had actually in accompanied by fighter planes for some period of time and it was a witness to that yeah then this is the woman who uh... exactly why i think that's the gym

CHAPTER 05 / 33 Discussion

Indonesian Silence, Australian Radar and CNN Ratings

Questions arise regarding Indonesia's silence and the failure of Australia's Jindalee over-the-horizon radar to detect MH370. The hosts speculate that regional sensitivities or equipment failure may be preventing full disclosure. Meanwhile, CNN's ratings have doubled due to its non-stop coverage of the disappearance, a strategy overseen by Jeff Zucker.

indonesia· jindalee radar· cnn· jeff zucker· malacca strait· ratings

19:59 and for sure... How did you get this information? And what yeah no, this is spooky. Well here's a spooky bit from the CNN correspondent in Australia The Malaysian government said 17 countries Jeffrey in the area have come forward to say that they haven't found the plane but not Indonesia Is it significant that we haven't heard from Indonesia? Indonesia of course is also partially in control of the Malacca Strait They're on the eastern side of the Malacca Strait all the way up. Or the southeastern, south. They got quite... okay, southeastern and... And southwestern actually if you think about it. Depends on which way you're looking at it. Right! It's true. Yeah depends on where you live. From their perspective it's on their east coast. True yeah from there okay. From Indonesia?

20:50 That's a very, very interesting question and I've asked the question of our officials even off the record and they simply say to me, I can't even talk about it. And these are folks that I know really well and they usually give me stuff off-the-record but this time no comment we can't talk about it so there is some real sensitivities going on here And I have to say at the same time, I've also asked about the Australian Jindalee over-the-horizon radar. Why didn't we pick it up? Again, I get we can't discuss it. Well now there's... well that spooky yeah but we can't discuss it means a couple of things one they know something and if they can't discuss it because.. That's implied obviously with this classified and the other one is they don't know anything and they don't want to embarrass themselves

21:38 Or they've got gear that's supposed to do this and that, it can't do crap. It's just a waste of the taxpayers money. That would be another reason not discuss it. Yeah that would be the most logical I guess Occam's razor But we know these systems, these radar systems are good. And if anything's flying around certainly if it is not identifying itself with a pinger or with a transponder... Yeah and its the size of a 777 which is huge! You're gonna get an escort for sure and not the cool kind if you know what I mean wink-wink nudge-nudge

22:14 So anyway, so of course we actually know nothing still but it is interesting to see that again The focus is on the Malaysian government. We have our key guy and remember we had a producer the day this jet went Went missing one of our producers said hey just so you know There's all kinds of stuff going on here and that was the same day That Anwar bin What's his name again? I'm more been Ibrahim was His conviction was overturned and he's out on appeal But he has to go back to jail for five years and he's in the opposition of the government And our producer said hey, you know there is other stuff going on here. I don't know if it's related and we followed up on it And here we are We've seen nothing but the Malaysian government be under severe duress from the entire world for screwing around and screwing this up

23:09 But I think it's taken too long. Something was supposed to happen, you know... It looks like it's a bit out of control now. It's possible because the scenarios has stretched out over a month or about a month because the pingers are about to drop dead after a month and there is something in that something was... You're right! I think something is missing from the puzzle and somebody failed to do something that was going to wrap it up Bob was supposed to do something Where did Bob go? He wasn't drunk It was in Amsterdam with the Secret Service guys. It was... Oh crap, that Bob! Who hired him? Now what are we gonna do I don't know well and it's it's pretty phenomenal that CNN has really been running this for a month now A month yeah I know

CHAPTER 06 / 33 Discussion

Maria Bartiromo, Fox News and Cable News Competition

Maria Bartiromo's new Fox News show is reportedly performing well in the ratings, outperforming competitors in its time slot. The hosts compare Fox News' marketing success against CNN and CNBC. They suggest a rivalry exists between Bartiromo and CNN's Erin Burnett following their time together at CNBC.

maria bartiromo· fox news· cnn· cnbc· ratings· cable news

24:03 I think that you think the public, the American public especially we get sick of it. Nah... I don't know what the overnights are but i doubt that the ratings have gone up. Uh no well I could find out. They gotta be drifting back to normal which is like nobody watching No! I think you're wrong John this is like those trials that they run on you know on Court TV or what used to be Court TV HLN and all that CNN uh ratings Let me get the latest for you Let's see, CNN has great news and lousy news at the end of the month. That's Huffington Post We'll just we don't want to even look at that here's my ratings site hold on a second We'll take a look at you know what did phenomenally well that number one show on cable I think all the new shows Was the new Maria Bartiromo Fox News Show on Sunday? That thing is knocking it out of the park Well fox is better at marketing Well also she's hot

24:56 She's the one that Erin bumped out of the picture at CNBC and moved her around some other slots. And I don't think the two of them get along, she'd probably love to go up head-to-head with Erin. Okay let's see we have total for the day this is April 3rd so this is Thursday Fox News in the demo was he told actually Fox had a million This is during the day CNN 432,000 that's about double what they normally have let's look at the so good prime time and in primetime we have O'Reilly factor 2.7 million as Fox and Anderson Cooper 671 thousand which is again it still double it's not doubling again for sure the people losing

25:52 Well actually let's see Rachel Maddow... Can you go back a week when this thing was a little fresher? Yeah I think so. Hold on that would be uh what would that be the 27th it's good enough oh let's see if i can do one day earlier okay for the ratings for March 25th and that is okay that's Tuesday Oh CNN had about 50,000 less so it's actually gone up a bit But in primetime, no in prime time it's also gone up. It's unbelievable but it is absolutely climbing! CNN is actually the one who brought the plane down. Good move boys. Yeah all right Jeff Zucker. It's unbelievable well that means they're gonna stay with this programming until uh yeah until Anderson Cooper's head explodes he had a

26:54 Just as I have a clip that is the off not off this topic and I'm assuming you're done. Yeah, I'm done What else do you want to say? I mean other than we just keep following if at some point it'll You will have it all figured out two or three different ways The thesis is though this is to mess with the Malaysian realize yeah rub It's pre-rub. It's a pre rebel rebelization plan for the Malaysian government to screw with the Chinese. Something like that. Who may be, the reason they maybe so reticent in all this stuff that's been going on with them is because they know this is going on and they're trying to find ways to counteract it That could be... Yeah but their kind of playing right into... It's an obvious reason you don't want to talk to the Chinese But there kind of playing into everybody hands by pointing him off the coast of Australia again

CHAPTER 07 / 33 Discussion

Selin Wong, Castro Valley Adult School and Ivy League Success

Selin Wong, a 20-year-old who dropped out of high school due to illness, graduated from Castro Valley Adult School and was accepted into Columbia University. The story, highlighted by local Bay Area news, focuses on her induction into the Alameda County Women's Hall of Fame. The hosts critique the maudlin tone of the news report and the promotion of GED paths to Ivy League schools.

selin wong· columbia university· castro valley· ged· adult education· ivy league

27:39 Well, we don't know. We just don't know they may have some...we don't care about the plane. Sinister scheme. We don't care about the plane! We're just watching The Rubble So I have this clip this is kind of I hate to start to show off with a clip like this but this is kind of one of the typical stories we have locally and this is a girl Chinese girl who went to high school and then she got sick and she couldn't she got she had stay out of school for a couple years through some illness they never say what it is or ask and she went back to school but they wouldn't put her back in high school. She went to an adult school, got a degree or whatever it is, a fake high school GED and then went right to Columbia

28:22 And now she's in the Hall of Fame apparently locally. You have to hear this thing, but she is crying... Now this is like this reason I want to play this clip now because it's in contrast To that woman who was so cold-blooded It seems whose boyfriend slash partner who were she was moving to Malaysia You know, he's been gone for a month and she just... She is all into his conspiracy theories. Yeah she is happy with it but now this girl.... So this I consider to be one of the most maudlin disgusting kinds of things that we get in the Bay Area for report you know good news or whatever and this girl just crying every time they interview her so how are you today?

29:03 Now a very woman thought her dreams were in jeopardy when she got so sick she had to drop out of high school. But now, she's achieved something no one else has. Last night she was among the more than 60 people who graduated from the Castro Valley Adult School and she is being recognized not just for what she achieved but also for where she is headed Seelan Wong says she loved high school. She was a 4.0 student, played flute and tennis and dreamed of college. And then at the start of her junior year she got sick. I was ill with stomach aches headaches and dizziness and sensitivity to light It was so bad that she dropped out of school by the time she recovered two years later she was 19

29:45 and too old to go back. Since she couldn't go back to San Leandro High School, she came here to the Castro Valley Adult School She wanted her GED but didn't realize that coming here would open up the door for so much more I remember going there crying on my first day I was like how did i even end up here? But the staff told her she had options and could have her dream You wanted to go to college How badly? So badly it looks like Very bad. She completed two years of classes in just 11 months and then reached for what she once thought was impossible Then one day last fall her mom called to tell her a package had arrived

30:29 When I opened it, they're like oh my god. It was actually Columbia University. Selin is the first person to ever graduate from Castro Valley Adult School and go straight to an Ivy League school The 20 year old has since spoken in Sacramento about the importance of adult education And last weekend was inducted into the Alameda County Women's Hall of Fame What's the point though? She went well the point you have this story I have no idea. I think it's to promote adult education. This is what it sounded like, or women... But wait let me get this straight. This are the standards we now have in this country and by the way there's a follow-up clip because this was just a crap report but the standards in this country she went to an adult school to get her GED mm-hmm and then she went to college bingo Hall of Fame

31:21 Yeah. Are you kidding me? With a GED, you can do wonders! So it promotes the... but meanwhile I want you to listen this shorter follow-up clip which is the end of this report and just I want you to carefully listen to the dialogue between the anchors Her accomplishment brings her family to tears. It's really big in my family because I'm the first one who go straight to a four-year. The road ahead may not be easy, she still needs scholarships and knows things will be hard for her family when she is gone but she also knows what it is like to face challenges and thrive. I just felt out of place at that moment

32:08 Sorry. Do you feel like you found your place now? Yeah, a better place as well. And the best is yet to come. Yeah I bet Well, congratulations to her. Really a great story and a remarkable young lady who she's just... She wants to make the Castro Valley Adult School like you know part of her message too in terms of an inspiration and how many people did that certainly congratulations all the other graduates because really great achievement. Great story! You did a great job on it too. Thank you! Times 949 Rosemary does a great job she has created Saturday forecast that will drive you out tomorrow

32:46 yeah hello rose and look at her drive you out of its mind and look at this wrong with these people and look at rose my way adam is he did a great job hey you know i love that story john I just loved her appreciate how lovely are you the great job clipping you do a great job if I just use your do a great great joy me to say I so let me tell you something John this is there's some things going on with our news anchors Here is a... I can't even do that. It's so phony baloney. Oh, sickening! So Hillary Clinton and Christine Lagarde the chief of the IMF International Monetary Fund they were both at this Women in the World conference

CHAPTER 08 / 33 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Christine Lagarde and Women in the World Summit

Hillary Clinton and IMF Chief Christine Lagarde appeared together at the Women in the World Summit, moderated by Thomas Friedman. Friedman suggested a future where Lagarde leads the European Union and Clinton is U.S. President. The hosts analyze the "powerhouse women" narrative and Clinton's potential campaign focus on compromise and evidence-based decision-making.

hillary clinton· christine lagarde· thomas friedman· tina brown· imf· european union

33:43 And someone pointed us to a clip and there's a website, it's put on by... who is the girl from The Beast? The Daily Beast. Famous editor Yeah, Ariana. No! Oh the Daily Beast? What's her name that woman used to be a Vanity Fair? Yes the really famous one. Brown. Tina. Tina Brown right she's very famous and huge advocate of women and so they put on this this... And by the way if there was a you know men in the world conference oh it would be shut down by protest

34:18 It would. I mean, it's okay because i understand that women feel that they've got had this incredibly raw deal which hey it was only two decades ago we could still beat our women until we got a law against it so yeah fact fact fact those days are nice one John But you know it's going a little far when you have these two women on stage and there's Tom Friedman of the New York Times, and he's been hired to interview them. And but there's only a few clips which is really they don't have the whole interview which I'd love to see and I can't find it anywhere if anyone can find the whole thing of Hillary and Christine Lagarde please send that to me. Hillary by the way looks dynamite

35:04 She her face is done. I work it well, it's all healed You know the temporary bruising is gone the swelling down and and I'm and I want to reiterate everybody That you know before we knew this was gonna happen she had a worked on her eyes look fantastic The whole neck thing she's not masking with a scarf or anything It looks really good no waddley-waddley job good for her The hair Pierre styled it great and Christine Lagarde. I've been in Paris No, it's New York. I think oh he must have a New York guy too Yeah Well she flies the Paris guy in and to be and Christine Lagarde always she always looks together You know she's also six feet tall. I mean yes She's you know she's she's deal with her hair is she's got her look down man. I mean it's just it's great So they're both that he always looks like her yeah And so this of course is a powerhouse of women and Friedman what a comedian

36:00 So what he says is interesting but also there's a little gotcha here in what the two CBS news including Gail, Oprah's bestie who now wears spectacles makes her look very newsy. Very intelligent I can just see you going Ope! Ope! These glasses made me look smarter. And by the way, you should take it There's a Larry David show that came out once and he had this black sidekick on his later set later episodes And they came up with this theory that if a black person wears glasses mm-hmm everybody always defers to them as being extremely intelligent They did the whole show around this thing. I believe it we've been watching and you see a black person with glasses on and people defer to them but i also feel like she's as much she got smarter well that's the glasses now but i also want to say that you know obviously, I still pray but whatever god is listening or whoever Allah Muhammad whoever's up there listening

37:03 Please make Hillary Clinton our president. She is uniquely qualified to run the empire! and Thomas Friedman, he is my lord. He comes down and gives me not just one but two! Clinton spoke at the annual Women in the World Summit in New York along with IMF Chief Christine Lagarde One of the highlights their reaction when moderator Thomas Friedman of The New York Times suggested that Lagarde would one day lead the European Union And Clinton could become President of United States I mean... Would my life be even more fulfilled

37:40 if Lagarde was the president of the European Union and Hillary Clinton was President of the United States... It would be portrayed upon women. I would convert! To a woman? You'd be a woman?! Yes, President of the European Commission which would be very interesting if you're the president of Europe and the president of America It's interesting to see that reaction about women ruling the world. What did she just say? This is, this is the thinking! This is the thinking that's going on and I'm calling this woman out on it

38:26 It was interesting to see that reaction about women ruling the world, the two of them together. Yeah! It was a great moment between... To see 2 powerhouse women I think is always very exciting Yes it's very exciting to see 2 powerhouse women Gail We know how you get turned on by it Particularly Hillary and Christine Powerhouse Women Ruling The World Women Of The World, Women Who Are Listening To This Show Gentlemen please stop this If your partner is a woman and she's not listening right now Stop it and make her listen This will happen. I really feel that this can happen Christine Lagarde she's like yeah, I mean merde oui

39:05 And after the four or eight years, we'll have another conversation and see if it really was all that great. It's fascinating too by listening to Hillary Clinton almost begin to lay out the rationale for a presidential campaign last night which is the need to stress compromise. Not only in- Talking with people you disagree with? Talking with people you disagree with and number two fact based and evidence based decision making. Fact based! Global warming. Oh yeah, fact-based and evidence based decision making which... Yeah global warming that was one and the other one was the same promise by the way Obama made but oh we had a little compromise then they get in there's no compromise But this none of that I there's an undertone here which is very and Charlie Rose is sitting there like a eunuch because essentially what these two women are saying as they're talking to each other is women

39:58 do things based on facts and not, you know like men who do it with their penis. People you disagree with Talking to people you disagree with Uh huh Talking to people you disagree Yeah cause women are so good at that yeah It's always very exciting I was fascinated too by listening to Hillary Clinton almost begin to lay out the rationale for a presidential campaign last night which is the need-to-stress compromise Not only in... And talking to people you disagree with Talking to people you disagree She's like this is what we did Talking to people you disagree with disagree with and number two fact-based and evidence based decision making number three What she says number two? She it's that's number three. Well, I still want to do this We came we saw he died

40:57 which in this era of hyper-partisanship I think is going to be an argument that she weaves into a potential presidential run. People are waiting for her to sort of lay out a narrative about what she would do if she was president. That's right, exactly and she has a new book coming out so we can read all about it what Hillary Clinton is thinking. Hillary's Clintons! What Hillary Clinton's Hillary's Clintons' is thinking all about hey Charlie Rose thanks man tell me about the sexuality its in your DNA It's all he can say Yeah, I think it's gonna be great. Where is my drink? Hey you know again... It's time please we need a woman because we really need to equalize this We really do! To show that you're not better than us You're just as bad That's my point It's the system that runs things

CHAPTER 09 / 33 Discussion

State Department Missing Funds, Benghazi Protests and Pat Smith

A State Department Inspector General report reveals $6 billion in contractor funding is unaccounted for during Hillary Clinton's tenure. Meanwhile, Clinton cancelled an in-person appearance in San Diego due to planned protests by Pat Smith, mother of Benghazi victim Sean Smith. Clinton instead delivered her keynote address via satellite to avoid the optics of the demonstration.

state department· benghazi· pat smith· san diego· inspector general· contractors

41:49 This belief, this... Well I will say that Miss Mickey always says sometimes you can get people all riled up and they can really believe something and then it can really change things but that's kind of what we thought with Obama. It didn't really happen Just the opposite Yeah The fact they have an Obamacliff Before you get to that let's just finish up some Hillary stuff so um The report came out from the Inspector General regarding the State Department and this is during the past six years which pretty much Hillary was running the show. And it appears that $6 billion dollars that is spent paying contractors, there's a 6 billion of the money they paid to their contractors, is unaccounted for. Under Hillary's watch? Yes

42:48 Yes, yes. And I have the report in the show notes which is 606.nashownotes.com or noagendanotes.com and it's damning but at the same time when you read the report... It's really a memo it's not even a report and this is the thing that I think everyone's overlooking It's a six pager. Oh yeah, and there are eight pages. Six billion dollars we can't find and you know there was one guy who got 25 million his wife was the main worker under the subcontractor... Yeah, we recommend that you keep the receipts it's literally like that! Like 6 billion dollars? That is very cavalier. Seriously, that is kind of the advice

43:34 And then this happened over the weekend. Hillary Clinton cancelled her upcoming visit to San Diego, she was going to be greeted by a group of protesters who refused to change their plans. She frankly is not welcome here in San Diego by so many of us and we don't want her. Jen Iverson from The Difference Matters is behind the plans to protest Mrs. Clinton's quest for presidency because of her role in Benghazi People of the United States, Hillary doesn't give a damn about you. You remember who that one is? That's yeah. Yeah. That's the mother of Sean, one of the three who were killed in Benghazi, the one who said, yeah, Hillary was Hillary and Barack Obama and it was like, oh no, we'll take care of you going to get nothing. And they were all cold with their hugs and the whole thing exactly

44:21 Pat Smith lost her son Sean in Benghazi. She'll be at the center of the demonstration. To have her there is very gratifying and it spurs us on to what we are doing Mrs Clinton is a keynote speaker at the Western Health Care Leadership Academy, A four-day event being held at the conference center in a week The protest has nothing to do with us So far some 700 people are attending the conference They'll see Mrs Clinton via satellite instead of on stage Now, yeah. Pretty lame Well she doesn't want to have shots of her with protesters of mothers of dead children

CHAPTER 10 / 33 Discussion

Michael Morell, Charlie Rose and Benghazi Testimony

Former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell appeared on Charlie Rose's program following his congressional testimony regarding Benghazi. The hosts criticize the interview as coached and scripted, noting Morell's evasive answers regarding the "protest" narrative. They discuss the discrepancy between boots-on-the-ground intelligence from Tripoli and the final reports produced by CIA analysts.

michael morell· charlie rose· cia· benghazi· tripoli· intelligence

44:58 It's a political decision you make. Yes, she was the right one. You know this Morell guy came into the conversation again and we didn't play the clip but there was a discussion... We didn't play the clip because it wasn't playable really but a discussion Morrell is the CIA guy that had something to do with Benghazi Working with Clinton in some way or another and it's believed by some people that he is going to be the Secretary of State if Clinton becomes president So he had to give testimony before Congress said nothing a bunch of stories came out saying how he was all Slammed by people who are on the ground and all the rest of it And he ends up the next day after he goes in front of Congress, which I haven't quite dissected The whole testimony yet But he went to Charlie Rose The next day hmm this other bookers work

45:48 And so he goes on the Charlie Rose show and if you listen to this, this is Morrell one and two. If you listened to this it's as though he's trying to ex he's there literally writing a script together and rose is like coaching him. He's coaching rows about what to say. And it's like too good. It's like more like we're overhearing a meeting behind closed doors. Like a podcast? Yeah. I like that. Tried to rally people and... To create a protest that they could take advantage of? No, to attack the State Department facility That was their plan Let's get inside let's cause some trouble just like our brothers in Cairo did And they were Al-Qaeda affiliates

46:31 But Rose does this. Remember when he was talking with the president and he was doing the same thing, basically hand... How about you know try this angle? That's pretty much like that one remember when this is happening? Yeah I know it's what Rose does it's funny to watch or listen for Al Qaeda I'd be careful here. I'd say they're definitely extremists, they are definitely Al Qaeda ideology and we know from intelligence that some of them were Al Qaeda affiliates but not the whole group

47:13 So that's the first attack, right? I think that's how the first attack happens. Yeah his people were in there! That's why it wasn't the whole group! It happens with these extremists following back to our base the people who leave the State Department facility And along the way they pick up some additional heavy weapons and it's some of the more hardcore guys that do the following. That is why that is a military style assault And then you have that gap in time where I think they were driven away by officers at our facility the first time and I think they said to themselves, let's go get some heavier weapons. Let's go get something that can really make a difference and they came back with mortars and those mortars did make a difference. I think it was played out that way." Wow! What is his I-think business? Yeah isn't that great? Didn't anyone have like a report of what actually happened or this is just his...

48:12 It wasn't writing a book too? If you watched this whole thing, you would be so annoyed. And this is just recent?! Yeah it was just like couple days ago. Oh crap! The day after his testimony before Congress. I missed it...I missed it...oh crappy okay Part 2 Alright When you when you there is what the chief of station in Tripoli said What did he say? So let me walk through the top... Stop stop stop You gotta start that over I got to set this up This was throughout the interview There was this sort of thing Charlie Stammers, what and then he's asked a different question which is makes you wonder what he was gonna say. He stammers asked a direct question

48:51 And this is how the guy answers it. He circumlocutes the answer in such a way he never answers the question right in front of Charlie, right in front of the audience and nobody notices Do we have the question? We have Charlie's question Yeah its righ here. He asks what does his station chief say Tell me about this sexuality It's in your DNA There is what this Chief Of Station In Tripoli said What did he say? So let me walk through the timeline here. The timelines are very, very important because we made it up so on the 12th of September which is the day after the night of the attack We collect some information and that information includes press reports and some intelligence

49:41 that says there was a protest ongoing outside the State Department facility at the time of the attack. And did Charlie follow up and say, yeah but what did he say? No, he just the guy kept rambling went on and on and on and I'll tell you about to summarize The guy said there was no protest. This is bullcrap these reports These are reports are planted these the news reports which the CIA now apparently uses as as actual intelligence Which is what the morale says oh we saw some news reports of this so it must be true And so this guy that's there, the CIA guy says no it's not true. This is bullcrap and then he goes on and explains how they actually took that information gave it to the analysts who have the final say and he gave the boots-on-the-ground guys information of the analyst I said that's bullcrap we're gonna go with this other idea which

50:34 Which doesn't make any sense either so this was whole thing was was was I mean you could it's the high heaven and listening to this guy in Charlie Rose on the show is Makes it worse if you uh, I'm gonna tell people our original thesis about that You're gonna turn your mic down just a CH To get a DB dog. Yeah, just a little bit cuz when you get excited then your clip All right. Are you deaf? Are you down boy? I get excited. I was so excited! Well, you're a little excited there and it's just... Yeah because this is like you listen to this stuff and you go what the who are these people kidding?

CHAPTER 11 / 33 Discussion

Tunisia Loan Guarantees, October Surprise and Barack Obama

President Barack Obama met with Tunisian Prime Minister Mehdi Jomaa, providing $500 million in loan guarantees to support the country's democratic transition. The hosts link this to their "October Surprise" thesis, suggesting Tunisia's role in regional stability is being bought by the U.S. government following the Arab Spring.

tunisia· barack obama· mehdi jomaa· arab spring· loan guarantees

51:14 Yeah, no it's annoying. Our entire thesis was this was an October surprise and we have word from Tunisia about this too. In fact it is interesting in light of that but so we had information that Tunisian guys were sent and that was supposed to kidnap the ambassador. The ambassador I think probably knew about this... That's why it wasn't all Al-Qaeda! Right, and then we were going to have this miraculous recovery just before the election they were kind of locking in the results

51:50 for the present this anyway and we need to go back as people said well why would they do that let's go back and I had my point in this thesis is that you have to remember that the news media up to make sure that the advertising revenue continued to flow in kept it artificially a close race to make it look as though Romney could possibly win and all these pollsters, you know the one guy who was right was an idiot. Everybody else had it as a close race and Obama could possibly lose so they had to do this If its not a close race then there's no money flowing to the news media This is their... every four years when they make their money By the way we pointed this out on one of our shows It actually stated as such in the CBS annual report

52:40 Anyway, go on. So interestingly President Obama and Prime Minister Yoma reaffirmed the strategic partnership between the United States and Tunisia earlier this week they discussed the historic progress made in Tunisia as political and civil society leaders have worked together to advance Tunisia's democratic transition and secure a more peaceful and prosperous future for Tunisia The two leaders also emphasized their commitment to advancing Our shared interest in a secure stable and prosperous Maghreb. Eh, best there be some money there! Amen thanks Mike Cliff is called Tunisia is screwed I think it has something to do with this. Oh okay, I like that. Barack Obama met with Tunisia's Prime Minister at the White House on Friday the US President praised Tunisia as the poster child of the Arab Spring showing progress compared to other nations in the region Tunisian's Mehdi Djoma walked away with half a billion dollars and loan guarantees until president Obama

CHAPTER 12 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Value-for-Value and eHarmony Lawsuits

The hosts thank Martin JJ for the episode artwork and explain the "Value-for-Value" funding model, which avoids traditional advertising. They pivot to a news item about eHarmony being forced to launch "Compatible Partners," a gay and lesbian dating site, following a 2008 lawsuit in New Jersey regarding LGBT matchmaking.

martin jj· no agenda art· eharmony· gay inc· lgbt· lawsuits

53:44 his country was on the cusp of a new economic transition. Silly fool, if the guy hadn't died it wouldn't have been a billion you idiot! You only gave him half? Well of course they're gonna owe us so... They're screwed somehow Hey uh we're moving along way too fast here I need to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak Well, Adam. Adam Curry? In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and all the knights out there And our artist Martin JJ does it again Thank You Martin JJ coming in with the album art for episode 605 It's like Martin JJ Nick the Rat fighting it out Come on people I know but it's

54:34 Martin JJ and Nick the Ratcher get it should get an apartment together. And toys! What? Oh, toys. NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is where you can find all of the art and submit your own we really appreciate the work that our artists do and of course in the morning to all of our human resources in the chat room noagendastream.com as we stream this show live twice a week at noagendachat.net Of course, none of this could be discussed the way we discuss it because we'd be living next door to the Mozilla CEO. Yeah, well he resigned. We'd be living next door to him if we weren't running this... Pounded out of office by political correctness That's right That's what happens And so the way we run our show is that we live and die by the sword of our producers who make the show with us

55:27 They help us with information a lot of experts, and they also support us financially in that's the only way we make any money No hidden agenda here when it comes to the advertising and boy advertising this there's no advertising. No underwriting those sponsorship know nothing So we can say what we want We can embarrass ourselves so we can come up with thesis that would never be said into mainstream media We can make snide remarks mm-hmm We can do anything we want without having to worry about a suit coming in and telling us to calm down. Or, having people going after our advertisers? Yeah! That's how it would happen if we had advertisers. Yeah, we'd have people like... Hey man let's go for the advertisers You're advertising with them?! Yeah. Hey GoDaddy I'm not buying your stuff anymore we're gonna boycott you! Oh before that, i need to mention this

56:21 Didn't know that this so this gay Inc. This That's what it's called apparently ink and I nk-inc gay inc gay incorporated This is not the first time that this has actually happened with a dating website Did you know that eHarmony? Yeah here, I got this someone pointed me to this new story eHarmony was Was being sued because eHarmony is kind of the Christian dating website and of course they didn't have any... Christian Mingle? No, it's not Christian Mingle. But eHarmony is you know they only want to get together to get married and they've got a whole bunch of things like that but let me find out where this guy said

57:10 that he got sued by Gay Inc. and he literally had to start a gay version of their dating website, which I didn't know they had done because otherwise they would never be allowed to work in New Jersey Here it is. What was the thing called? It was called... These guys are like the old Rainbow Coalition Yeah, well it's like Sharpton and what's the other guy? Yeah, Sharpton same thing! It's pressure here Compatible Partners His company launched a separate gay and lesbian dating website called Compatible Partners in response to a lawsuit filed against eHarmony in 2008 for not offering LGBT matchmaking

57:54 You're not fair. If you're gay, you can't use your service. Start your own service! Forcing somebody to do something that they are not doing is not their business model Yeah, but this is the pressure that you're under. I'm telling you if these guys want global warming to catch a spark You just gotta find some research that says global warming is killing gay people and you're good to go! Everyone will be like oh well now we have to... Turn off the lights honey! Turn off the lights? Well here we go let's thank a few of our producers

CHAPTER 13 / 33 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting and Stripper Poles

A lengthy segment dedicated to acknowledging high-tier donors and executive producers. Contributions from AJ Reistad, Stephen Pelsmarkers, and Richard Henderson are read, including personal anecdotes about travel and job success. A humorous discussion ensues regarding "Club 33" and a donor's request to have his name engraved on a stripper pole.

donations· knighting· club 33· karma· executive producers

58:33 for helping us on show 606 including AJ Reistad who came in with $606 and kind of a reverse to get credit for show 600 and I was here. And this says 686 which means either there's a typo or there was another 80 dollars in there but let me read his note that he sent in, and I saved it...I saved and did not lose the note and I put it... Good work! Everyone was pretty afraid you were gonna mess that one up Yeah, sir AJ Rice a baronet of the Treasure Valley Caldwell Idaho here enclosed our six Bennies an Abe and a George he sent in cash Which I have to just deposit as a cash deposit for executive producer show 600 600 Club episode 606 and 606 club Thanks for the special accommodations. And yeah, that's why they think the 86 is just a typo Okay

59:28 Thanks for the special accommodation and granting credits for episode 606. Of course a reminder email will be sent to all parties prior to so 606 which he did simple Pelosi jobs karma to all my fellow human resources okay you want no no it's the finish thanks for the awesome work that both of you are doing mm-hmm with them as he was this the best Are we good? And he did mention that the note was printed on actual red book paper. He could have written by hand but he didn't want to be cruel to John. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought karma

1:00:15 And... Well I see Stephen Pelsmarkers, our Grand Duke of Belgium and France came in with $620 which is my 62nd birthday times 10. Nice! Which was very nice. Yeah which means he thinks your age might be times ten...I guess ITM gentlemen, this is a special happy birthday donation for John. Some karma please and... Fantastic John! Have you been practicing your Dutch while I wasn't looking? Wow that was- You really butchered it. I'll do it. Same thing Yeah kinda Hit it You've got Karma

1:01:18 That's very kind. He has already done so much for us and just continues... Yeah, and then we have a founding executive producer thing this will be the last time we do this by the way Richard Henderson $350 in CandaNavia as in British Columbia spasm I believe In the morning gents I apologize for the long note greetings from BC the land of washed up feet stinky hippies expensive gas and bad drivers Apparently needs to move. It's been far too long since I've donated, I stopped listening for about a year but picked it up back again a few months back and then i have found that even though the shows are usually far too long to get me through in time The political analysis has been unbelievable! Outstanding is the word he says. Attaches my 350 which I hope will earn me as executive producer credit indeed

1:02:08 And half of my donation entered the 700 Club, which I think should be called the Pat Robertson Memorial Club. Sure he's not dead yet but that old coot is probably one banana peel away from slipping into the grave. Last couple weeks have been incredible for me karma wise and while I don't want to say this show played a part in it, I can't discount it! Work has been going incredibly well. That lady I found coding error with an airline allowing us to fly to Europe this summer in business class for far less than an economy ticket And after a full year of searching for another slave to work for me, I finally found the perfect candidate. Add to that I won a special VIP entry to run my first marathon in the New York Marathon to boot and something's going right here is hoping the FBI find some other event to brainwash an ethnic looking stooge to bomb

1:02:53 I wanted to combine a bunch of different donations but i thought that one half the 700 club would be a good way to kick off the new fountain of donations. I've also discovered that listening this show while running has allowed me to improve my speed and distance instead in my brain telling myself, I can't do it or that I'm an absolute moron for running when I have perfectly good cardio's But uh... I listened to Adam blab about something and John ignored him. I am guessing he is busy playing Angry Birds or clipping his toenails Okay, I think was candy crush. I don't you know? I've never even seen that game let alone played it me neither all right anyway That's what a thank him for the 350 now we got the evil kraut brothers of 89th and bluegrass in Longmont Colorado three three three three four

1:03:46 And Heil everybody, the evil Kraut brothers are making this donation to ensure liberty crazy speech perky breasts and bad science. This donates puts us over the top for our double knighthood Adam please give your patented shout out to Eleanor. Oh. Institutional lawyer! Is that you or is that the tape? That was me You want a command Yeah well okay Let's do a comparison play the tape Well I'll do it again and then i'll play the tape Institutional lawyer He's a constitutional liar! Yeah, pretty good. I like the fresher sound of the live version. The live... It's fresher? Yeah. It sounds fresher. Hey thanks guys Evil Crowd Brothers we got our own Koch brothers called The Crowd Brothers Matthew McNulty in Chicago Illinois 3333 Dear John and Adam Thursdays show is so good

1:04:46 that I don't feel this contribution satisfies my end of our value for value relationship bargain. What can i say? I'm just living a mac and cheese life here in the eye of the polar vortex and times are tough, that being said it feels great to donate And where else could I get six hours of intense psychotherapy twice a week for this cheek? Can I please get a 33 as the magic number followed by some general karma for everyone who's lost their friend or family member in recent past. It's been a bad couple of years in the casualties department looking forward to getting my executive producer business cards printed and further propagating the formula thanks for all you guys do." Future Baron of Logan Square. Send us a picture of your, uh... ...of your business cards

1:05:29 The executive producer on this call. I want to take a look at that You've got karma, hey Sir Robert alter three three three three three Kansas City Missouri I would like this donation to go towards rebuilding Club 33. If Leo can sell bricks to help build his new Twitch studio, then Club 33 can sell engraved stripper poles and monogrammed butt towels that help with the reconstruction effort." Note a butt towel is the towel used by strippers between sets that cover the chair when sitting with a customer Oh! This is someone in-the-know Has Sir Robert been working at a club? Well, he probably visits once in awhile Why not

1:06:14 Please use this donation toward the purchase of the main stage stripper pole I would like my name engraved on the pole so i can be a girl comes down it and she's cut to shreds So, I could die happy knowing girls grinding against my pole all night long. Okay, alright. Alright, alright... This does not have to be read on this show but my wife has been a stripper pole dancer for 14 years! Hold on a second there's a video here? To make Adam happy there is couple of videos for you to watch Oh wow What?! How come I'm only getting this now Well what are you in a hurry? Well yeah I don't know how I feel like it Wait wait wait what was going last night that you were in a hurry? Oh my god

1:06:58 I'll look at it later. Listen to that! Alright, alright... Onward, onward. Okay Dennis Nutting you're gonna have to make a note here is 333 333 in Hilo Hawaii or uh What note? I'm sorry iIm confused what am I doing well I just saw Sir Robert Alter's wife yeah Dennis Nutting ready yeah Hello again, John and I'm enclosed is my third installment of 3333 if adding will throw in the penny. I will be night Oh this night there you go okay put him on the list cuz he's not on there because Eric didn't know and does he have a preferred name Let me finish reading

1:07:46 I hope my donation arrives for Thursday, which it didn't. So he's got to be on the birthday list too." And when was his birthday? Do we know that? The third. Okay... Happy Birthday two days early to John! I asked for nothing just a birthday shout out and of course my knighthood keep on your no so it doesn't have anything just a title sir netting okay nut nutting else Keep on with your enduring... Sir Nutting L. Seriously? No, that's what I said. Sir Nutting L. I like it! Keep on with your enduring courage and thank you for your hard work indeed. All right he's on the list birthday list and he'll be knighted good we didn't have any nightings of course you know the the Kraut brothers don't actually get knighted twice usually do get the credit but oh good sir

1:08:31 Sir Nate Wilson in Charleston, South Carolina is associate executive producer $278.95 Tempting to make good on my offer to match dollar for dollar donations from South Carolina For JC's birthday have attached a payment of 278 98 I've been closing payments at 128 and 6005 to match the South Carolina donations and my own donation of $62.62 to JCD for his birthday in 2828, but this guy's a math whiz for my birthday please provide a birthday shout to JCD and myself for the birthday on the 5th yeah so he's got the same birthday as I do excuse me and Satoshi Nakamoto Naka-Nakamushi and others excuse me and many others

1:09:11 And finally, a social executive producer $250 from Tampa Florida Tom Haney who says thank you for encouraging the critical mind in approving so much value for value providing so much more value than any other media concert, movie restaurant or sporting event of which I may be a customer. When i think of what I pay per hour for each it is embarrassing! I get 24 hours with no agenda per month. I recently started my own company doing consulting and Drupal at Lavascript dot com. I look forward to sharing in the upcoming job karma. would have been involved with no agenda earlier so I'm jumping on the chance for a founding executive producer credit keep on trucking. All right some job karma for you sir? Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Tight tight tight tight that was good and that would be for show 606 and we welcome people to

CHAPTER 14 / 33 Discussion

Representative Jim McDermott, Dan Coats and Xbox Hacking

Representative Jim McDermott criticizes Republicans for bills he claims serve the Koch brothers. In a separate clip, Senator Dan Coats accidentally enters the wrong committee hearing. Additionally, a story is covered regarding a five-year-old boy who discovered a security flaw in the Xbox One, earning a $50 reward from Microsoft.

jim mcdermott· dan coats· koch brothers· xbox one· microsoft· hacking

1:10:11 Help us on show 607 coming up on Thursday. Go to Dvorak dot org slash NA Yes, and thank you all very much These are credits that are just like the ones they hand out in Hollywood except at the real They're accepted wherever credits are used Unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will actually vouch for them if there are any questions. We'll be happy to hop on the phone and talk to somebody. Devorak dot org slash N A Alright! And along with those credits... a task to propagate our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Orderly citizens SHUT UP! Shut up slave! Yeah yeah. Uhh..we were talking about uh..the Kraut Brothers and the HOOLIGANS

1:11:04 And here is Representative McDermott in Congress. Can they say this bill solves a problem of employers cutting hours and refusing benefits when it really only makes it worse? It is surrender! Unconditional surrender by the Republicans, pure and simple. To force yet another vote on a bill that has no chance of becoming law There isn't one chance in a million One thing I learned in medicine was you never say never But this is what I can say It will NEVER EVER pass the Congress

1:11:42 A bill crafted purely to appeal to the Koch brothers and the producers of Fox News rather than forgo... forged to protect honest Americans like India. What a douche! I mean this one. Koch Brothers, hey man read your script much? Idiots did you see what happened to Senator Dan Coats I don't know, what? I'm not here to get a specific answer from you but to better understand what is happening and how it...I think there's probably a trial plan that's going to be put in place if that rings the bell. What is it you're trying to accomplish and what are some of the consequences of that going to be to the current DFAS system locations personnel etc.?

1:12:39 Undersecretary Cohn, I just wanted to... I just got a note saying that i'm at the wrong hearing. Oh okay. I've got the right room number but the wrong hearing well that would explain why didn't know and it goes on. How was he called on in the first place? Because all of this all it turns out is all phony baloney Well listen, what do you say? I don't know anything about this letter. Well it's the first time this has ever happened to me but... I'm sure it happens to many others. Hope it's not a precursor of what we hear here You're always welcome in our committee and yet... They don't even know who is in the committee you see These people just show up and just sit down they put their name tag he had his nametag in front him too Thank you. I saw something familiar with ya. Well I've got to let you off the hook on this one

1:13:36 Thank you, Senator. All right I hope that you're able to respond as quickly is the undersecretary of the Army's will respond. I'll go try and find out where it was supposed to be. Oh yeah! Man oh man... The whole thing is a charade A charade about big proportions I tell you Wow Yeah I know We get stories like this in the Bay Area again at a local OLSIS I think its national story that was picked up by public relations company promote Xbox One because it looked like a package to me, but this is still an interesting story if you see this kid and unfortunately this is essentially radio. But play the five-year old in the Xbox One." Until recently hacking into the Xbox one gaming system was literally child's play A 5 year old American boy named Christopher was able to break into his father's account

CHAPTER 15 / 33 Discussion

Austin Farmers Market, Rahm Emanuel and Chicago STEM Schools

Adam Curry describes a child violin prodigy at an Austin farmers market. The conversation shifts to Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's partnership with Motorola and other corporations to create "Early College STEM Schools." The hosts argue this system treats students as a "pipeline" for corporate labor rather than providing a broad education.

austin· rahm emanuel· motorola· stem· chicago· charter schools

1:14:29 revealing a security flaw in the Microsoft console. The boy's father discovered what happened when he realized his son had been playing inappropriate games on his Xbox. Microsoft has since fixed the flaw and given the toddler $50 and four free games. Hey, there are inappropriate games on the Xbox? I don't think so whatever the case they should have had to B-roll this kid little kid, a little five-year old with the controller? Yeah. Wow! Rocking it? This kid in any other world would have been Mozart Oh the kids well probably a prime candidate for Ritalin Right away They tazed the kid Yesterday at the market there's always musicians that... He tazed the kid?! They must've I thought you had a story No no but i was gonna say

1:15:20 there was a kid yesterday at the farmers market we have all these musicians out there and this keeps every Saturday the musicians are out yeah well they're not I'm in Austin of course is basically music City a bunch of yeah nice marketing not really but okay yeah yeah where America's yeah the live music capital of the world okay Well, I think Vegas probably has more going on. Nashville! Nashville for sure. But anyway so the farmers market... Actually Memphis if you go to Memphis there's a lot of bars with bands. The farmers market and there's this kid no shoes on sitting in a tree playing classical music on a violin

1:16:02 What yeah, and his dad is like come down come down there And he's not just be playing he's like playing Vivaldi and how old was this kid you think? Seven six maybe six seven. Yeah, I'm not kidding And the people were just standing, and the kid's dad was like... He wasn't that high. No he was like shoulder height Oh he's just up there okay But but he didn't want to come down it was just playing and people are putting money in his violin case and this dads going no more donations! No more! No more! Just piling up with money. And have a permit. And the kids you know they had kind of gingerish hair

1:16:40 And a total kid ripe for tasing and riddling, I'm telling you. Oh yeah no they'll give him riddling and that will be the end of his talent Yeah we're going to have a very grim future with all these talents getting tasered and doped up. I tried to get it recorded but i was too late There was a piece on CNN also couldn't find it on their website because of course its flight 370 all day long But there was this piece right after they aired the reality show, because they keep going with that because that's also a ratings bonanza. The Chicago land Rahm Emanuel jerk-off job and it was Rahm Emanuel with the CEO of Motorola and they were talking about the school system now we know that they closed down what is it like 50 schools? Public schools and they opened 50 oh gee charter schools

CHAPTER 16 / 33 Discussion

Corporate Education Pipelines, Autism Scales and Child Protective Services

The hosts critique the corporate sponsorship of public schools by IBM, Microsoft, and Cisco, calling it a "slave pipeline." They discuss a letter from a Dutch father whose child was taken by Child Protective Services after refusing a specific autism treatment program. They argue that the "autism scale" is often used as a budgetary tool by schools.

stem· motorola· ibm· autism· child protective services· netherlands

1:17:38 It was a total conversion into this, you know, into a different system. The moneymakers? Yeah money makers but it's all stem based and what happened the way they were talking and I'm gonna see if I can get clips for Thursday because it was really fascinating Motorola moved their main business Motorola Solutions or whatever into Chicago and I think 2011-2012 And part of the deal was that they would make all these contributions and they put out these huge grants To the early college STEM schools. There's a new one for you ECSS And he and the CEO, Emanuel just sitting there pontificating about how great it is that we're creating the next Motorola workers right here in Chicago. They don't even have to leave town! They'll be STEM students and then they can flow right into Motorola

1:18:37 The whole thing was a setup. Yeah, hey you come to Chicago bring your money here and we'll give you some slaves! It was really disgusting but no one seems to see it am I wrong? Am i just completely oblivious to what's going on? Am I on the wrong side of history? Yes, as one would say. You are on the wrong side of history we already know that! It was really weird oh my god does anyone see that Motorola came in and paid for slaves? Yeah educate stem slaves. This has bothered me for more than probably two or three decades let's look at this early well yeah this is you know in the olden days when I was a kid and you could actually get summer jobs in high school

1:19:22 You would go to some place and they would train you the company that you were working for. You had some crazy job of some sort They were trained here They didn't expect you to come in under any circumstances knowing how to run their machinery there was also I used to hire a lot of interns and then they would eventually be hired into, you know into real jobs That was another way of doing it. Yeah, there's that and there's also apprenticing but now they expect a guy to respect the state... here's what is expected the companies these corporations that would be evil corporations they expect a taxpayer to pick up the tab for their training of their employees? Yes! Screw that! So listen to this early college STEM schools

1:20:13 The five Chicago public high schools will partner with corporate sponsors. So we know one is Motorola Solutions, that is the CVCA school, Michelle Clark School sponsored by Cisco, the George Corliss School sponsored by Verizon Wireless, Lakeview School of course sponsored by Microsoft and the Southwest High School sponsored by IBM The Early College STEM School Program is a way for students to continue their education and launch a career path. It's just, it's... Well at least they're putting some money into the scheme. That doesn't really say that put- They're sponsoring but that doesn't mean they're putting millions of dollars in

1:20:58 No, but what they're doing is they're putting... Oh they may just be guaranteeing jobs or something. You know if we are going to sponsor this and you were gonna guarantee that there's this many students who follow this curriculum will get a job with our company as a possibility We have to look into this further Well that's why I'm kinda bringing this up Let me see what the Monroe Solutions Foundation sponsors What about Microsoft High School? Microsoft High Microsoft High, I'm going to IBM high. We're having a football game this Friday we're gonna kick your butt Microsoft! Yeah and then we'll go on to the finals against Motorola high well we name all our stadiums and everything after corporations why not? yeah i don't see a problem as i mentioned before cities were used to be named after companies and they still should be

1:21:48 Chicago could be named after, I don't know the police department. Listen to this Greg Brown chairman and CEO of Motorola solution said quote As a company with a history of engineering solutions, we have a first-hand understanding of the value of an education in science and technology. And are thrilled to partner with Chicago Public Schools to help develop a local pipeline of technology leaders! Kids you're in the pipeline! You're like oil or gas... Already! In the pipeline it's a pipeline like that's how they talk about sales what do you got in the pipeline? I got some kids coming up the pipeline

1:22:27 in the pipeline. Well, fine like you said where's the there'll be no art there'll be no music no band? No well they may have some of it but it's irrelevant even if they give you art and music that the whole idea is to get you put you in the pipeline because it's crap right into a low-paying job at Motorola and as we know from my friend The Professor these people they actually believe it's the right thing to do But these are not slaves for your corporations, not slaves for your university studies. These are human beings! Human beings who need to thrive and discover new things and not just being in your pipeline to pay for your old age We're never gonna develop as a human race if we just put the human beings in the pipeline

1:23:24 It's crazy I tell ya. This is not okay! Well, it's not... But I know i'm on the wrong side of history You're on the wrong side of history my friend Adam? I am in the wrong side of history with this thinking this is just crazy I get letters from parents all over the world now who love our take on children who are different because it makes the world interesting. Yeah, and most kids literally are different. In my experience all the kids were so individual from kid to kid all different

1:24:04 Yeah, but I got this one very long note from a Dutch father and he said just saying...I mean it went through this whole thing and the same thing happened with his kid. And was also based on you know budgets and money for the care taken at certain point his kid who you know was on this autism scale they actually said if you don't put him into specific type of treatment program we're going to have Child Protective Services come and take your kid away because it's you're abusing your kid. And they came and took his kid away! He said no I'm not gonna put him in the stupid jail that you put him in. Anyway, long story short, you know, took many years and the kid is okay now he's out and he's a very productive kid

1:24:46 But he was saying, you know even with these... we laugh about the crazy putting on the autism scale and then schools are all in on this with their programs and medication. I guess what he was saying is that a lot of pain for parents that comes with this and it can ruin your life literally having your kid being put on this bogative autism scale there's real autism! There's real crap and real sick kids But this, you know... You're a kid's intelligent or your kid likes to climb up the tree barefoot and play the violin. Oh no! Can't have that. Nooo And by the way? He is unlicensed by the way Yeah he probably was Unlicensed Does that seven-year old have a license sir?! We are going to have to bring him in Uh no... Hey hey Kid! Kid! Get down get down kid get down

CHAPTER 17 / 33 Discussion

Paris Pollution, Oxygen Therapy and Vertical Forests

Paris implemented odd-even license plate driving restrictions to combat smog. The hosts mock "oxygen therapy" machines using pine resin and "vertical forest" skyscrapers like the Agora Garden Tower in Taiwan. Dvorak warns that these vegetated buildings will inevitably become infested with rats and suffer from rot.

paris· air pollution· oxygen bar· vertical forest· agora garden tower· rats

1:25:43 I'm sorry. Are we just two old guys who just are? You sound like Statler and Waldorf We're really two old guys, like hey! That's the way I see it. When I was a kid we got jobs It sucks, it sucks. So sucks to be a painter now Talking about arts... I don't know if you've seen any of these paintings I have a clip but that says what I just said There is a bunch of bull crap going on in Paris Oh. You're talking about science, technology engineering and machining... I just couldn't believe these bullcrap reports is about pollution in Paris! Oh yeah now i heard about this you can only drive in Paris like the

1:26:28 license plates even number can drive on one day and odd numbers on the other day? Apparently they got a lot of smog currently because it's, I don't know why. It's the humidity and it happens, it happens yeah it happens everywhere well it's happening in Paris so here's the bullcrap report pollution in Paris clip just listen to this bull crap there are several ways of combating the impact of the air pollution recorded in cities across France over the past few weeks you You could opt for a spot of oxygen therapy, for example with the Bolderge Acquis. A very effective machine which oxygenates the body and helps rid it of poisonous carbon monoxide inhaled through exhaust fumes

1:27:09 Carbon monoxide sticks to your hemoglobin better than oxygen does. And so depletes the oxygen source to your body So here we add a fantastic oxygen carrier which stays in the system for several hours preventing carbon monoxide poisoning And this fantastic carrier molecule comes from pine resin from the L'Anne forest in southwestern France.

1:27:45 We extract the resin. It then undergoes distillation. What is this crap? I'm telling you, what are they doing with my jaw on the floor? What are they selling to me? You go into this shop which is one of these like an oxygen bar you see here and there but it's not an oxygen bar they've gone to some Pine tree area in the south of France where there's a bunch of pine trees which is usually friends got mostly oak and they They apparently take a bunch of the trimmings and then they make liquid and boil it, which sounds like making turpentine if you ask me. And then you go into this little shop and you sit about foot away from this little gassing device and there's boiling turpentine essentially. You breathe this for like six seven minutes and then you're now protected against carbon monoxide! Oh man...

1:28:45 You need to back up from the mic or something. The mic is not handling your excitement. Oh, that's funny I can change mics if you want No, just learn to... If you had headphones on you'd know it was happening. I know, and it would be deaf It sounds nice but then you get like this Yeah no, I understand. I'll need to do what I'm doing now Anyway the point is they have this these shops and it's just bogus. And this, by the way it is true that carbon monoxide does bind to your hemoglobin and stays there which is a problem because it accumulates Can you rinse your hemoglobin?

1:29:29 Now once the carbon monoxide, there's two things that do this. Hydrogen sulfide does it too. Once it attaches itself to your hemoglobin and then now the thing can't carry oxygen until actually I think that blood cell until it has to replace and you're stuck with it which is how you get carbon monoxide poisoning It's a problem but this bull crap is ridiculous There's a part 2 to this clip I believe Really? Oh wait here's another one This is a part two, this is another thing they're doing. This is going on in France it's going on all over the place you may have seen these buildings these are buildings that look like a regular skyscraper except every other floor has a bunch of trees Construction already underway for the Agora Garden Tower in Taiwan and should be completed in 2016 The architects also designed a sort of vertical forest for Hong Kong

1:30:23 We are trying to build vegetated towers, natural spaces green lungs built upwards recycling air pollution. And there are also solutions albeit on a smaller scale closer to home this installation over the A86 in Thiers near Paris sees plants filtering foul air. There's a ventilator behind which takes the air down into these pipes and the air is injected through the filters. There's a 20 centimeter space under the filter, the air is redistributed and injected upwards through the mix. Are these architects

1:31:09 who just come up with ideas and sell them to people who want to build, I guess bank buildings or... Yeah. ...with atriums? This is the ludicrous concept they have and here's what the problem is with these ideas of interspersing open green spaces with a building It works okay if you have, you know, a few ficus trees inside this building and some other things in the air it probably gives you low oxygen sometimes The problem is that this stuff rots, these plants die. It's like public fountains in the United States you put a beautiful public fountain out and then within two weeks some bonehead will throw a bunch of soap into the fountain and hold things soap all three way. So who knows people will be killing these things they'll be stealing the plants. Two words John, bubble bath

1:32:07 bubble bath is the best. Yeah, it's the best. Ever done that? And it overflows and foams everywhere. Anyway and the other problem with these sorts of crackpot ideas reminds me of the time which my favorite one was there was about... It was in the late mid 80s they these public relations firm they were sitting.. There was all this green we had to be green and careful and so the little foam things his little Peanuts that you get with as packing material. That's just horrible stuff Yeah, they replaced it with popcorn actual actual popcorn yes It was it was a company that made popcorn kind of a good idea isn't it what's that dumb idea? Does that mean it was its you know I got a few those parties seem like a good idea But apparently when the rats I was gonna say when the rats found out about the popcorn in the boxes And now this is the same thing rats

1:33:01 Rats are gonna get into these buildings with all this, with all these places where they can burrow and hide. And they're gonna be rat infested! And that there may try to poison the rats and then every dog and cat's gonna get sick that's in the building or... I'll tell you, I lived in New York City in the late 80s. Rats would climb up to the 30th 40th floor man, there'd be rats yeah maybe down on the street? And I saw a rat once in New York in an alley and they would that hump back, and it kind of the way they walk is creepy. The thing was the size of a good medium-sized poodle It was huge! Yeah yeah... Rats! Hey so while we're on agenda 21 type stuff global warming We might as well Another clip I could not find Thank You C-SPAN for just totally blowing They were C-SPAN ruined themselves

CHAPTER 18 / 33 Discussion

John Kerry, Climate Change and Information Manipulation

Secretary of State John Kerry warns that climate change is a threat to the American way of life. The hosts discuss an Ann Curry NBC special on "weather extremes" and a new academic paper from Oxford University Press titled "Information Manipulation and Climate Agreements," which suggests that exaggerating climate damage can be "instrumental" for global welfare.

john kerry· climate change· ann curry· nbc· oxford university press

1:33:59 John Kerry, John F. Kerry made a statement and I only have the quote and it's a beautiful quote I mean we had barbecuing the earth from who said barbecue in the earth that was Robert F Kennedy jr right so here's John F. Kerry unless we act dramatically and act quickly science tells us our climate and our way of life are literally in jeopardy denial I mean is that a beauty or what? Wow. I need this clip! We have the one where he said it was like weapons of mass destruction, but I need this clip to save this for prosperity's sake. This is very important. Very important

1:34:48 And then NBC is, you know, Ann Curry. Remember they fired her? They got rid of that pushed her out of the morning news slot and who's now doing that? Savannah Guthrie who was doing the news? Who's the... Savannah I think so when there's a news reader. Well Ann Curry. So but yeah of course You never really get fired, you know I don't want you to go into any competition so they keep on doing special reports. The head of the World Bank is warning that climate change will lead to violent conflict over shortages of food and water This is NBC Today show this what people watch in the morning Shouldn't climate change lead to triple cropping? For shortages of food and water And this Sunday night NBC's Ann Curry shows us how ordinary people are already witnessing the impact of rising global temperatures

1:35:33 It feels like an all-out assault for the last year and a half it seems mother nature has thrown everything at us Notice how the word seams and feels and all these little adjectives are thrown in so they can't actually get sued for Lying what on earth is going on? For more than a year we've been on a road trip to far corners of our planet, searching for answers to what's causing these weather extremes. This is the storm of the century! We met ordinary people who have seen changes up close and asked some of the world's brightest scientists if this weird weather is coincidence or sign of fundamental change here? The planet isn't just changing... it has changed

1:36:17 I need to watch Ann Curry reports our year of extremes. Did climate change just hit home? This Sunday evening at 7. And there's this, uh...I'm trying to get a hold of this report that is only available to members of the American Journal of Agricultural Economics or OxfordJournals.org but the abstract is incredibly promising Title, Information Manipulation and Climate Agreements Abstract. It appears that news media and some pro-environmental organizations have the tendency to accentuate or even exaggerate the damage caused by climate change This article provides a rationale for this tendency by using a modified international environmental agreement model with asymmetric information

1:37:08 We find that the information manipulation has an instrumental value as it ex-post induces more countries to participate in an IEA, that's International Environmental Agreement which will eventually enhance global welfare. From the ex-ante perspective however, the impact of manipulating information has on the level of participation in IEA and our welfare is ambiguous! In other words lying's okay...I need this report Yeah, it's published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Agricultural and Applied Economics Association. If you have if you're at Oxford... Hey! Oxford student listening to a podcast? If you have that we'd love to listen to read this report please. Yes make it copy. Because that's basically a scientific okay-to-lie about science

CHAPTER 19 / 33 Discussion

Brussels Austerity Protests, Water Cannons and Media Blackouts

Thousands of protesters in Brussels clashed with police over EU austerity measures, using oranges and cobblestones as projectiles. The U.S. embassy was briefly placed on lockdown. The hosts question why American mainstream media outlets are largely ignoring these massive riots in Europe.

brussels· belgium· spain· austerity· protests· media blackout

1:38:10 Or at least exaggerate. I'd like to see this myself Yeah, this report of course! It was published on April 4th so it's brand new we gotta see this So there are protests in Belgium? No What do you think of Belgium when they're protesting in built in Belgiustan you mean in Belgia Stan? What are you what, do you think they would throw yeah? I just make them gonna make this an ask Adam if your protests or throwing things mm-hmm. What two things would you throw in Belgium yeah well Belgium is known for its muscles and it's beer it's french fries

1:39:01 and sex farms. Okay, so you're not going to be throwing french fries or beer at the police? Oh hold on a second you said police... Yeah they were throwing stuff, they were throwing stuff at protesters. You're throwing stuff at the police. I don't know will this clip explain what happened? I think so Protesters took to the streets in Brussels. Thousands heeded a call from the European Trade Union Confederation to show their opposition to austerity measures implemented across the European Union Belgian police used water cannons and pepper spray on protesters who threw oranges and cobblestones The demonstration even sent the US embassy temporarily into lockdown Yes, cobblestones! Exactly

1:39:44 Well the same is going on in Spain. Oranges! I don't know where the oranges comes from... Thousands protesting everywhere in Spain. Funny, let me look at CNN. Why are American media's not picking up on any of these riots and protests? None of them. We decided a long time ago that the reason the American media doesn't do this so we don't get any ideas over here Yes, just reiterating it Don't give them any ideas Let's take a look Russia Ukraine I don't want that to fall off the radar Yeah, actually this funny because I didn't get any clips on Russia Ukraine for today's show and I wish I had I got a couple things kind of backed off You know everybody's you know it's coming off. It's coming off the news cycle well I got an email from one of our producers Please keep me anonymous Just wanted to chime in about your comments on last show about drilling under the border for natural gas Now this is about Chevron who has a 10 billion dollar

CHAPTER 20 / 33 Discussion

Ukraine Gas Drilling, NASA-Russia Relations and Leaked Memos

The hosts discuss Chevron's $10 billion fracking license in Ukraine and the possibility of directional drilling into Russian gas fields. They also investigate reports of NASA cutting ties with Russia over the Ukraine crisis, noting that the International Space Station remains the sole exception to the suspension of cooperation.

chevron· ukraine· nasa· russia· international space station· fracking

1:40:47 license already had that in Ukraine to go in and frack and drill then if they're doing that near the border, they could actually be going... That's our thesis was they could go under the border and drill Russian gas. He says I design oil field equipment and typically when you're doing directional drilling They drill about five to six kilometers from the well site If they're drilling right on the border, I'd agree there could be stealing gas But, you know I was looking at where those fields are. They're way farther in than five miles. Oh so not okay...not north? Not east? No they're down there in and they're about I'd say if you looked at the border they're about 30 miles inside Ukraine. Hmm okay

1:41:32 Well, then that falls by the wayside. It doesn't necessarily fall by the wayside but it could be that maps are bull and there may be other stuff going on in the Russian side who knows? The thing is obviously bull because I couldn't find it anywhere apparently according to The Guardian which is supposed to be a reputable news outfit there This is from a leaked memo, we have not seen the memo. NASA has not announced this. This is not official news but it's a leaked memo according to sources that we have no proof of. The dispute between the US and Russia over the crisis in Ukraine has made it to outer space! The federal government has ordered all contact between NASA and Russia's space program to cease

1:42:13 The only exception is the International Space Station. But at a time when the US depends on Russia to get astronauts back and forth from the space station, how significant are the consequences of this new policy? I'm calling BS on this! There's just no evidence of it You know it's like some directive. There's no directive I haven't seen any evidence of this no there's as far as we can tell they're nothing just As usual, but if you google NASA Russia Just those two words will be enough let's look at the headlines NASA cuts ties with Russia except on space station NASA to end most activities with Russia CNN Let me just see where is their proof? Let me just read the CNN article

1:42:56 NASA's spending much of its work with Russia in light of actions and you create the decision by the US Space Agency to halt. The majority comes amid a statement sent out by NASA on Wednesday, but there is no statement! You go... it's not on NASA's website? Where's this where's the statement isn't it's not like a planted article just I don't know to distract people from whatever's going on which is nothing It's not attributed to anybody maybe something new has come out since since yesterday but now looking here, looking at the news it's just... no one checks anymore. Just whatever just go ahead yeah run it hey what do we do with this bill?

CHAPTER 21 / 33 Discussion

Mike Rogers, Russian Spies and Ear Torture Claims

House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Rogers claims there are more Russian and Chinese spies in the U.S. today than during the Cold War. He also makes graphic claims about Russian agents cutting off activists' ears in Ukraine. The hosts contrast these claims with news reports of a Ukrainian activist who was reportedly "crucified" and had his ear partially severed.

mike rogers· kgb· cia· torture· ukraine· intelligence committee

1:43:42 Oh, Ronin who cares? Nobody's paying attention. We need this we need the inventory latest from NASA. NASA tells us to air upcoming space station cargo ship activities. NASA coverage set for SpaceX mission to Space Station that is probably what it's about a cancel the contract with the Ruskies bring in Elon Musk and then this morning I was quite surprised to see Elon Musk may have sent that press release out wouldn't surprise me Quite surprised to see Mike Rogers back on the TV with Dutch Ruppersberger. These are the two gentlemen who, these two boneheads, these morons oversee all intelligence committees. They're the chair of the Intelligence Committee. It is very ironic

1:44:31 uh... here's mike rogers and so i worry a little bit about its timing of release remember we haven't done this since two thousand four the program went away in two thousand six completely uh... and it we have real problems today remember that the russian does until the services are cutting people's ears often put knives at eighty five-year old men's throat to get them in line in places around the world that's what we need our answers yes remember remember the russian intelligence services are cuttin' peoples ears off Yeah, putting knives right down there. Let me just I'll back it up for you I'm gonna make sure we hear that correctly brother the Russian intelligence services are cutting people's ears off and people's ears off Okay got that yeah okay often put knives at 85 year old men's throat putting four knives at 80 minute old throats to get them in line in places around the world to get them in line They gotta get him in line

1:45:23 It says, did I miss something? Did I miss a great... I don't know. I missed that story too. I don't know about the missing ears and the throat cutting. This is a great story! I can't believe that we missed that well do you think that's great it only took me five more minutes of watching him and then this beaut came along And now when the agency is challenged from Al-Qaeda resurgence around the world to the Russian intelligence service remember we have more KGB agents in the United States today excuse Russian intelligence agents, that's the old Cold War moniker for them. Then we had at the height of the Cold War more Chinese intelligence collectors in the United States by a number that is just breathtakingly nerve-wracking for the United States. Breathtakingly nerve wracking? Hold on! We have...we're overrun with spooks from Russia and China Why don't they just do something about it?! I don't know apparently Mike Rogers is

1:46:21 Just hold the FBI. Yeah, that's where we need our intelligence services focused this is a debate We've had it's gone It's a it's a part of our history that we're probably gonna talk about the CIA report now I understand Mike but Wow Okay, let's stop because when you have to get a little background so the CIA Actually was the Senate Intelligence Committee put together this 6,000 page report about torture and who's point it been points the finger at all the bad actors and it probably would result if this thing went public in indictments. There was a lot of illegal activity apparently according to Feinstein. Well hey hey at least you're not cutting guys ears off but well I don't know that that's not true maybe they cuttin' the ears thing off is actually out of the report yeah he got mixed up the guy's not that bright so

1:47:13 So they now they've and they didn't want to bring it out because everyone's all bent out of shape about you know, so water under the bridge What difference does it make this was 10 years ago when they were doing this? You know as though you know a crime is has a past due date or it's got an expiration date like which is true with some crimes but not with these sorts of things. And so Rogers is trying to keep this thing under wraps because he's a stooge for the intelligence agencies we don't know which ones but probably all of them and So now they want to release a short version of the thing, like 2 000 pages of the 6 000. And they were thinking seriously about doing this and he's trying to quash that! Right... ...and that's where we stand. Well on February 6 2014 reports came out that captors in Ukraine cut off activists ear and crucified him to get a confession. Abducters were believed to be Russian agents but right underneath that story

1:48:21 Drunk Russian cuts off own ears. Two Siberian men tie at arm wrestling cut off own ears Mike you gotta like Google this stuff man before we start talking about it Yeah, we don't know that those guys weren't... We don't know they were Russian agents. They could have been those fascist group that is the far right or whatever it's called a front right front or whatever in the Ukraine which are pretty brutal looking characters or acting brutal brutal acting Dimitro Bulatov says kidnappers sent him kept him in the dark for more than a week crucified him and cut off part of his ear and dumped in a forest after a week of torture okay? What were they after

CHAPTER 22 / 33 Discussion

Barack Obama, Republican Budgets and Deficit Rhetoric

In a clip from his weekly address, President Obama argues that the Republican budget does the "opposite" of his goals to grow the middle class and shrink the deficit. The hosts mock the rhetorical structure of the speech, noting that Obama fails to explicitly state that Republicans want to grow the deficit.

barack obama· republican party· budget· deficit· podcast

1:49:06 information. Information. We want some information from you. Okay, all right well I guess it's fact now so i was listening a little bit of Obama's little talk Which talk was this? About how great he is. Uh-huh, which is pretty much most of his talks So I have a kind of a quiz and I want you to listen to part one of this little statement He makes and then I want you to listen to the counter And and I want you to pre guess what he's gonna say next Budget I sent Congress earlier this year is built on the idea of opportunity for all

1:49:42 It will grow the middle class and shrink the deficits we've already cut in half since I took office. This week, the Republicans in Congress put forward a very different budget and it does just the opposite." Okay... So now here's what the deal is- This is from his podcast! Yeah! Yeah, I didn't watch the podcast but that's interesting. Well yeah, I saved the day. Yes. Okay so here's the deal. He makes three points. It's going to create opportunity one this point one and the opposite of that would be what? unemployment. Okay, put that in there that's your guess. Wait wait wait! You asked me... That's not my guess you asked me what the opposite of... Well okay well he said everything he said the Republicans did was the opposite Oh okay all right so that would be the opposite you're right. Depression unemployment women slaves. Ok I don't want to make this a long segment The second thing is it was grow the middle class

1:50:42 and the other obviously opposite. Would be shrink, yeah. And then his third goal was shrink the deficit So that means the Republicans want to grow the deficit. Yes, grow the deficit. Now that's one I thought was interesting because... The Republicans don't they want to shrink the deficit? No he wants to shrink it. I know but so do Republicans Well he says the Republicans want the opposite If you remember at the end of it, he said the Republicans have their own plans and they just want the opposite Of what he said which is these two things So I want you to listen carefully to what he says is the opposite and tell me where it's, just re-explain to me what he says about the deficit. And it does just the opposite! It shrinks opportunity and makes it harder for Americans who work hard to get ahead. Uh... He didn't say that? He didn't say anything! OBAMA!!! He forgot to say it!!

1:51:40 Well, that's a jip. No the guy is unbelievable Really sorry I was like I think of failed segment Yeah, they got you to play that clip Which is good. I uh, well it's... Oh, I don't know Do i want to do this one thing? No! I'll tell you let's do this thing. I'm gonna show my support by donating to NO AGENDA Imagine all the people who could deal with that. Oh yeah that'd be fab! We do have some people to thank for show 606. Very nice number and one of them came in with a note which I will read since they sent it mailed in the check and a note written by both Aaron and Joseph Kramer of Sewickley, Pennsylvania

CHAPTER 24 / 33 Discussion

Lucy Buckley, NK Ultra and Sir Nutting Knighthood

Adam Curry mentions his cousin Lucy Buckley is visiting Austin, leading to a tangent about "NK Ultra" activation and receiving information via ham radio. The segment concludes with the official knighting of Dennis Nutting, who is dubbed "Sir Nutting" of the No Agenda Round Table.

lucy buckley· nk ultra· knighthood· dennis nutting· austin· ham radio

2:02:40 Well, on this donation site. Yeah all right so Thursday we'll be back with more and of course we'll be keeping our eye on well everything the huge distraction is upon us the ratings are off-the-hook for the cable news outlets that's why we have to be very vigilant you need to do that as well then we're not just looking for financial donations but for your expertise yeah we have a lot of experts out there that like to help Yeah, and in outrageous categories really. Yeah. Hey my cousin's here uh Lucy Oh Lucy finally showed up is she in the studio with you? No I think Mickey's picking her up um she was-she went in Austin visiting some girlfriends had like a

2:03:26 Girlfriend reunion weekend or something. She's a little older than I am, couple years older and probably there was a lot of drinking involved. I had an idea Well Austin is good place to drink Yeah but you know she's Don's kid Right! Right she is the one who told you screw yourself when you ask her for some information No, no. Isn't she the one that says I can't tell you because it's classified? No! That's like a niece...no, that's like a cousin's kid's brother's kid or something. The whole family. You know the two things happen so obviously i am the black sheep of this family

2:04:06 But it is really possible that I was NK Ultra at a young age and you know, I'm... You could be activated. ...I'm receiving information through the ham radio That or you could be activated Maybe she's here to activate me! Maybe she has to be in person? That would be the way to do it. You don't want these random activations and then random comes into it. You can accidentally get activated and thats no good Well I had a moment there when I think... And yeah, you can google her I had a moment where i'm thinking she's googleable? What's her name? Lucy Buckley. Lucy buck- Lucy Buckley Yeah, Lucy Greg Buckley was married to Christopher Buckley Oh right the Christopher Buckley wife That's not how we refer to her in the family John anyway hope she's not listening Mickey turn it off

2:05:03 She's not listening. I don't know what they're dubbed to but she went to go get maybe she said it's not an insult No, but see what this is here to activate me? No that's not an insult This is a problem for the show who knows maybe just here with the big check org slash and It's your birthday, birthday On Novachandra And happy birthday to Jack Genuso he celebrated on the 5th along with John Dennis Nutting they're celebrating on the 3rd Sir Nate Wilson also on the fifth Yaap Ghelhoutzad Happy Birthday to his brother Eric and John for the fifth and Josh Mandel 34 He turns on April 8. Happy birthday from your friends here at The Best Podcast in Le Universel

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CHAPTER 25 / 33 Discussion

Netherlands Participation Society, Healthcare Credit and Insurance Companies

The Dutch "Participation Society" is discussed as a shift toward citizens paying for previously free services. Rabobank is reportedly restricting credit to hospitals due to financial uncertainty. The hosts compare the Dutch system to the U.S. Affordable Care Act, arguing that insurance companies and banks are the primary "bad actors" in both systems.

netherlands· healthcare· rabobank· affordable care act· insurance· participation society

2:07:22 That seems to be kicking it here. You know, since in the United States of Gitmo Nation the Obamacare is now in the news I have a different piece of news that might be interesting to y'all The Netherlands which of course went from a total communist socialist well socialist but with commie tendencies nation To what the new prince or the king calls the participation Economy which means you're now going to pay for stuff. You used to get for free and the health care is one of them So essentially that I love that by the participation, it's actually the person dissipation What does my supply what's the translation? Society the participation society so one of the things that happened if that happened Will be a good year ago when was two years you know two years When were we stuck in Holland was that well that was a year ago right um

2:08:21 Yeah. They basically created a version of the Affordable Care Act for the Netherlands where it is mandated, you have a mandatory if you know if you're above certain pay grade mandatory insurance coverage that you have to carry and I think the minimum payment is kind of like a cell phone bill you know it's about 100 euros of course your deductible then as 5 000 euros so yeah most people will have to carry a higher premium But the whole system has become, and it's very weird to see what is going on there. You know doctors can't work more than certain hours It's very similar to the Affordable Care Act although I've never really read any documentation just seeing the results of it And doctors can only work a certain number for hours and that doctors are getting out of the profession because all that all the system really Is now with specialists

2:09:14 and health care providers, you know that as your provider will administer the medication. My doctor was complaining to me about the situation even though he's a Berkeley liberal and he was talking about most work... for one thing everyone had to go to computers so he is 70 and you know he's not a keyboard guy. Windows 3 point one! So he has to like you know, fiddle with his laptop that he has to use and it's a painfully... He can't flip through the paper, you know? You can't flip through a file anymore. He's gotta go into this machine but he's complaining that most of his time is now occupied with paperwork oh yeah

2:10:06 You change a prescription, they come back at you. Well you can't change this prescription unless she tells why and then he's got to fill in a big form every time he does anything." Well what is happening in the Netherlands? And this was big news...at least I thought it was big news and I have to say right up front there's no way for me to really vet this because it could easily be propaganda from the hospitals But according to the Rabobank, which is a pretty big bank and actually I'd say the most flexible bank. Banks are no longer providing the same lines of credit to hospitals because they are... The whole situation has made hospitals and their future earnings

2:10:51 You know, not visible. Not bankable. Sketchy! Yeah so hospitals can't plan for upgrades to their operating rooms you know that's how almost all companies in the world grow with debt And they you know in order to not have to wait 500 years until they've saved enough. They go and borrow money, and there's all kinds of financial instruments and the banks are saying yeah You know what we're not so sure gonna be able to pay this back So we're not going to lend you any more money to upgrade This is that it was heralded as when I moved to the Netherlands It was unbelievable he had free health care best healthcare great doctors everything was fantastic No death panels now never seen any those but now

2:11:38 Hospitals won't be able to get the credit they need. So what do you think created this situation? A bad system, a bad idea insurance companies running the show Yes the insurance companies that are ruining it for everybody Which really are the banks I mean insurance companies ARE banks They're just kind of reverse banks Now, I'd like the way that Republicans in this country deflect. The Democrats are all in on this and like the Affordable Care Act but the Republicans argument is always oh you don't want the government telling doctor what to do and the government hasn't been telling the doctor what to do it's the insurance companies and that's I guess okay because nobody ever says we can have the insurance companies telling everyone what to do they're the bad actors men okay the Republicans would they never mention this

CHAPTER 26 / 33 Discussion

Heineken Haiti Investment, Bill Clinton and Skunky Beer

Heineken is investing $100 million in a Haitian brewery, a move the hosts criticize given the country's lack of basic infrastructure like electricity and sanitation. They link the investment to the "Clinton money" influence in Haiti and mock the idea of selling beer to people living in tents without power.

heineken· haiti· bill clinton· brewery· investment· port-au-prince

2:12:32 As far as the Democrats are concerned, this is great. This is why you cannot be a member of these political parties They're both horrible Yeah you really can't Let's see what else do we have? Okay... Something more exciting No no let me just stick in the Netherlands for one more second Okay Heineken! Douchebag Why would you say douchebag to Heineken? Douchebag! I don't want to say it again now. Douchebag! Okay... Heineken will be investing 100 million euros in a brewery in...? Let me guess China Nope

2:13:17 No, no. This works out there listen there If they're a douchebag where where is this brow this brewery going to be? Well it's not gonna be in Holland No of course not that one oh no it has to be in a place that has been rubble eyes Or lots of money area. No way I'll help you out There's a great hotel Haiti yes A hundred million euros in Haiti where people still are pooping themselves to death.

2:13:55 Is it going to be in the north part of Haiti that you know has all the where all the Clinton money went? Where there's not a bunch of guys pooping everywhere. Let me see what I have here so, uh... It's 100 million dollars 77 million euros Okay, so it says according to the Dutch CEO behind the Haitian Heineken office A quarter of the whole amount will be put directly into the new brewery. The rest of the money will be used to increase production by buying more trucks and generators. Of course, generators for the beer brewery not for people in tents who are pooping! Hey slave want a beer? You can't have any electricity but you want a beer?!

2:14:52 You can poop and pee. At least you'll feel good while you're sick! Want a beer? You can't have electricity, nooo... Noooo, no electricity for you but you could have a beer or come here and work in the factory I'm sorry it's all automated we don't really need you hahahahahaa You could serve me in the hotel, in the Clinton Hotel hahahaha Disgusting, I will never drink another Heineken in my life I never knew you drank it at all. Well, sometimes but not anymore No, I can't get that politically motivated by anything they do and don't normally drink Heineken It would be the problem the Heineken in the United States is unless it's put one of those special cans very skunky Now I'm a Budweiser guy have to admit what yeah? I know it's it's a weird thing from when they were my client and but you know You would go there to st.. Louis and

CHAPTER 27 / 33 Discussion

US Postal Service, Pension Pre-funding and Profitability

The hosts defend the U.S. Postal Service, arguing that its reported multi-billion dollar losses are manufactured by a 2006 congressional mandate to pre-fund retiree health benefits for 75 years. Data is cited showing that without this "onerous" requirement, the USPS would have been profitable despite the recession and internet competition.

usps· post office· pension· congress· profitability· 2006 mandate

2:15:51 They had this one bar near the brewery and this is the main office. And you go there with like the Bush guys, the kids Woody and Grinder. Can I have a scotch? Yeah as long as you have it with a Budweiser okay all right yeah i'll have a scotch with a bud on the side thank you very much So that you'd be a budge drinker. It's not really but because it's a thing drinking beer I don't know, I don't really drink beer at all Yeah, we don't really uh We know that there's a war on the post office The United States Post Office and the United States Post Office is very special because it is really a part of our Constitution and the and the right to send mail privately without being opened by anyone

2:16:42 under huge penalty is constitutionally embedded in our system. Right, it's the only protected form of communication we have in this country. Right and of course its under attack by this meme that they're losing billions and billions of dollars when the reason they are loosing that money because they've had to pre-fund their pension fund for 70 years. Is it seventy or? Seventy five I believe. An obscene amount of years Which is never discussed, it's just oh they don't know how to make money. They don't know how to make money crazy stupid this stamps But of course you have a bunch of douchebags who are e guys? You know the weenies that are in the tech scene

2:17:25 Who like to... I remember going on the Twitch show once and the guy says, uh, the post office sucks. Will you go to the post office? That wasn't a guy that was Tank Girl. I don't think it was Tank Girl. Funny though. I'll never forget the time he thought she was a he. Alright But now we have a real reason, you see. What we have to do is... I believe that the government our federal government can't stand the fact that we have this private means of communication They can't stand it! So how should we get? How should be? We got to come up with something shouldn't we

2:18:08 Well, if I had a meeting and said we gotta get rid of this thing and substitute something else that we can openly spy on. I mean, I don't think people are gonna go for the... FedEx kind of blew it for us by raising the prices on their overnight letters. It used to be you could get a letter, I think it was like $6 or 7 or 8. Maybe it was eight? Now they're like three bucks, 25 bucks It's ridiculous. Have we ever actually looked at the numbers of the post office? If you took out the pre-funding of the pensions, would they be profitable? You could get most of that stuff on the postal union site. The postal union is the only one that has been bringing up these issues and I've only heard it discussed once ever by the media on The Amy Goodman Show They had a postal guy...we had the clip

2:18:55 The postal guy was on there and he went through the whole thing about how they've said that more mail is being used, more people are using it. More profit is being made and all on and on except for this pre-funding which was they were saddled with by some douchebag that's I don't know who it was but it was some particular congressman that...I should look it up and find out so we can talk about this with more detail but anyway you can find out yeah I'd like to find out If they are profitable because you know people always say oh, yeah. In fact the chat room was saying it right now Oh post office run like crap as though it was useless worthless Yeah, no they've been brainwashed

2:19:35 the post office varies from I mean it's a government system so yeah of course some of it was like that but it's kind of managed like a federal management. So each Postmaster has more power and they have different budgets and they run their little operation slightly different from post office to post office you'll find if you go from post office the post office that everyone is a little different just like going I don't know if you've ever done a, one time when i did a book. I went on a radio tour and it was always surprised by how... If you go from station to station the station how different they are there they got different every equipment's all different The way they run is all different The way the studios are designed or all There's no cookie cutter anything in the post office is very similar to that They're all very different Okay so here's what I have

2:20:24 The United States Postal Service financial problems have little to do with delivering the mail in the four fiscal years since 2007. Despite the worst recession in 80 years, despite internet diversion revenues from postal operations exceeded costs by $611 million so apparently they're profitable The problem lies elsewhere in the 2006 congressional mandate that they pre-fund retiree health benefits for the next 75 years, an obligation no other public agency faces. The more than $5 billion annual payments since 2007—$21 billion in total—are the difference between a positive and negative ledger. Remove this onerous prefunding and the Postal Service would have been profitable even during the economic downturn."

CHAPTER 28 / 33 Discussion

Eric Holder, Synthetic Drugs and Mail Privacy

Attorney General Eric Holder and members of Congress discuss the use of the U.S. Mail to facilitate the trafficking of heroin and synthetic drugs. The hosts argue this is a "setup" to undermine the constitutional privacy of the mail system, suggesting the government wants to eliminate the requirement for warrants to open packages.

eric holder· heroin· synthetic drugs· usps· privacy· drug trafficking

2:21:06 But when uh okay there you go well that's just coming from the postal employee network.com so who knows but I'll look into it i'll get the numbers accurate they're not out you know you know they do exaggerate. That's what I've heard. It wouldn't make sense well anyway these guys are no good they've got to go and Eric Holder is in on it and here's the question that sparks it all, he says yeah we gotta do something about that. Madam Chairman um...you have raised as well Senator Shaheen the issue of heroin and What we need to do as we move forward, you've used the terminology. We need to be on the edge of our chair when it comes to issues like heroin I would suggest also and I present this to you Mr Attorney General that we are seeing

2:21:51 an increasing level of synthetic drugs that are coming into our communities and doing great damage. And, of course the problem is that as a state you can say based on this formulary this is a drug under the schedule but all these individuals have to do is change that formulary and they evade or avoid those laws. We're seeing some really devastating impact in some of our very, very remote communities where the only way to get these drugs in is by mail and the drugs are coming into the community through

2:22:30 through the mails and... Through the post office? Through the United States Post Office, Madam Chairman. And it is something that we've been trying to work on some issues up north but again where were seeing I don't know whether we call it an epidemic a crisis but we are being beat on these issues and the impact to our communities again utilizing legal processes to get these drugs in there that are, in many cases wiping out families. So we need some assistance here. Senator you've raised something that I think is a point that we really need to focus on and I have seen reaction that the chair did when I first heard about this but your right the postal service

2:23:16 The mails are being used to facilitate drug dealing. And we need to work with the postal service, uh... To come up with ways in which we get at that problem It is shocking to see the amount of drugs that gets pumped into communities all around this country through our mail system We have to deal with that That's a major problem we have to deal with Mm-hmm! Mm-hmm! That's right This is not good. Who is that douchebag asking the questions or making those statements? I forgot to write it down That's okay I can find out if you want Now this was another... It was a set up question You know, this is nothing...I mean when I was a kid people used to ship marijuana and other things through the post office What's new? What's new?! Hello! What is new? Nothing And where are all these drug sniffing dogs

2:24:11 What's just happened at the post office? They can sniff out a package that stinks to high heaven of something, heroin or whatever it is. And then you just put in and you can get... That's how they do it I mean they don't open the mail they let the guy have the drug sniffing dog identify the package It goes to somebody's house You have the police pick up the person with their warrant and after that they can open the mail there Right! That's how you do it Why don't they do that? They could arrest people if they did it in that way So what's the point of attacking the post office? Well, because the point is they want to get rid of it. To get rid of it. Get rid of the constitutional right to be able to send something confidentially without the government or anybody for that matter under severe penalty looking at it! That's the whole point

CHAPTER 29 / 33 Discussion

ABN Amro CEO Death, Petrodollar and the Russian Ruble

The former CEO of ABN Amro, Jan Peter Schmittmann, was found dead along with his family in what the hosts describe as a "message" hit. The discussion connects this to the global struggle over the petrodollar, Russia's attempts to sell oil in rubles to China, and the ongoing economic pressure on the Russian currency.

abn amro· jan peter schmittmann· petrodollar· ruble· russia· china

2:24:58 And I don't know if you heard about this and everyone's been talking about the bankers committing suicide, and I've kind of been whatever because they also included like some financial guy from Tata Motors. And it was kinda...I'm skeptical of it but now former ABN Amro CEO and his wife and their 22 year old daughter all killed in their home Now this is the same guy sounds like a hit. Yeah, I would not just to hate that's a message It's one thing to kill a banker but to kill the whole family That's like a message But what's interesting about this and this is why I'm kind of looking at it now for sure so has Russian mob kind of sound This when this guy was CEO he left in couple years ago

2:25:48 He was pretty much kicked out actually and then he wanted an 8 million euro payoff And there was a huge fracas about him the guy was clearly You know ABN Amaral got bailed out big-time The state owns it now, but in 2009 when he was CEO his chief financial Officer was found dead with shotgun wounds near his home So you kind of think yeah? Yeah, you know in all this stuff where we're looking at You know, the petrodollar being under attack and stuff coming out and stuff happening. This is a big one this is a message I mean it's... Yeah but message about what? We need to identify what's going on! Well yeah I have no information that we don't even know how they were... The Dutch news hasn't even identified how they were killed

2:26:44 And then it's always this is a family tragedy. Yeah, sure it is but so what are you saying? The guy killed his wife and kid and then killed himself Is that what this is again really is that what has to be Because the Russians are You know they've got this deal set up now with Iran which will be oil for certain for goods And then somehow they're trying to rig some finance, I don't know how this works or how you do it without people attacking the ruble. But the whole idea is for their deal with China to sell their gas and oil specifically Reznov's oil These are guys that were selling helicopters... Roznov? Reznov? What was the hell of a name? Rozneft That's a big company. They also sold the helicopters to Syria. These guys do all kinds of stuff We buy stuff from them

2:27:36 They want to sell their oil in rubles to China, but they're trying to figure out how to do it with some financial mechanism. Of course it would be easy for a lot of people to attack the ruble Maybe that's what all this is about by then maybe that's what Ukraine is about. It just I was suggesting Yeah, yeah you're right just attacking the ruble and which has gone down Just yeah recovered a bit though. So but yeah, there's the day you know that I'm sure everybody would like to be out from under the petrodollar and the Russians included because we make a, we kind of just make weird like it's like you just the United States essentially gets subsidized by the world as that has it think declines in value very small and very little bit every time and its money in our banks essentially. And it's like well they would like to have that piece of the action but we've set it up so it's impossible and every time anyone tries it we rubble-ize them

2:28:34 Well, we can't rubble eyes Russia. That's not possible maybe were rubalizing them We've always relied on the ruble being a piece of crap so we never worried about it I think that's China's are the ones with the currency we got to deal with you mean It's because it is going to be strong and it's going to be your problem very strong as strong And it's and its undervalued So it's worth using and it's in this pegged at the dollar so when we try to do some trickery they follow it And so it's a version of the dollar actually since it's pegged to the dollar. Hmm and that would make it but you know we can't I don't know, this is above our pay grade to really fully comprehend...I don't think anyone fully understands it really well I'm sure somebody does but it's not us okay anyways this week were having dinner with Joe from healthy surprise dot com Oh Joe's in town? With his girlfriend

CHAPTER 30 / 33 Discussion

Wu-Tang Clan Album Auction, One-Copy Gimmick and Video Vault

The Wu-Tang Clan is releasing a single physical copy of their new album, to be kept in a Moroccan vault and auctioned for millions. Adam and John mock the "hipster" appeal of the gimmick but decide to create their own "No Agenda Vault" video episode, featuring a four-camera shoot that will be auctioned to a single winner.

wu-tang clan· rza· morocco· auction· high art· video production

2:29:37 You gonna make him a vegetarian dinner? I don't think so. Mickey found some kale restaurant or something haha, I know I know yeah terrible I Hope I come back alive. I don't know if I'll make it out be feeling very good Have a couple last-ditch clips here So I was at the dinner table with Buzzkill Jr. and his wife, and oh here's a little twist on her measles she got that measle shot yeah she got the measles now she's got arthritic finger they think is from the shot you know there is a compensation fund for that yeah if you can sue and the government it'd go look at the Federal Register they're giving out money Yeah I'm gonna have to turn them onto this but now which finger is it?

2:30:27 It's a finger on her left hand like the ring finger but the middle finger. Does she use that one alot? Yeah, I think so. Usually to flip off drivers. Or is it just stuck in the flip off mode? It's just rigid like hey! Hey that girl is flipping me off No man, I got vaccinated. So we're talking about this and at the table and they these two are millennials you know hipsters essentially does Buzzkill have a mustache? no no that would be funny though he doesn't hand he doesn't really dress like a hipster but yeah he's he's a hipster face it things there they have to be in that age group uh talked about this scam that the Wu-Tang clan are doing

2:31:14 Shoot have you heard about this? I know the Wu Tang clang, but what is this? Oh well here's the background. I'm not up on the Wu Tan scam This is the Wu tan scam clip Aston Berry in June. Another highly anticipated album is the latest offering from the Wu-Tang Clan but this is something that not everyone's actually gonna have the chance to hear, will they? Absolutely it will never be streamed online and you can't buy from iTunes and if you want to pick one up from the shops you can't do that In fact, there will only be one physical copy of the album and most of us will never get our hands on it because it's going to be locked away in a Moroccan vault. But not forever! The group do plan to tour the album around festivals museums and galleries

2:32:04 And there you can listen to the new songs, but only on headphones. And once that's said and done they're going to be auctioning off the album and they hope to pick up millions for that But it's not just a gimmick if that's what your what your both thinking It's a statement as well would Bhutan clans say they want to elevate music back back to the form of high art? Certainly a different approach isn't it I think that's exactly where their album belongs locked up in Morocco So these two, this is the promotion. I don't know who PR agents are or who's behind this promotion it just seems like desperation to me and these two are saying...I say this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of Who was gonna buy this album at an auction for millions of dollars? And the 2 of them go yeah! Oh yeah! They'll get that for sure These millennials This is our you know hipster thing

2:33:00 I was just flabbergasted that anyone would buy into this bullcrap. They might auction the thing off and then somebody says they paid a million for it or two million, and what would be the point? This is the stupidest thing i have ever heard! I don't know if its the stupidest thing... It's pretty stupid Mean I like the gimmick. I liked it They got all this attention on fan cat going on and out with all these details would look like the Barack But come on looks like you know they've already had offers yeah, I'll offer him something Yeah, but RZA offered him five mil five RZA RZA RZA who's RZA? RZA is let's see if they explain in this article who RZA is let's see um

2:33:49 The, uh... Maybe it is the Arzy. I have no idea John! I was on MTV when Courtney Love was still interesting to look at. I have no idea what's going on here but see here headline! New Wu-Tang Clan album the case for the world's first five million dollar album. I can see where that's high art. I get it. You know there's no more money in music There's no money in music Where would there be money in one album? Okay, let's see. Let's do a shot tell you what we're gonna do us no agenda show one No agenda now You're talking and we're going to talk in the vault yep auction it off to the highest bidder And is never going to be played It's gonna be a special three hour no agenda yeah that we're gonna test do the same deconstruction We always do but it's not gonna be available to anybody except of winner-of-the-awards

2:34:45 So and it will not be it'll be what are we ever aired? Are we putting it on a thumb drive or? On this disc CD. We have to come up with some Hey, digital copyright why not just put it on magnetic tape There's the thought I think I do I have a couple of tape recorders Yeah, we can put on 1 quarter inch yeah quarter-inch for Trek I think this is a great idea. Okay, so it's going to be one three hour and it will never be aired Never! And we're going to do an auction You know what? This may work you may be very surprised John Yes, I will be very surprised You may be very surprised Yeah, yeah, I will be yeah... You don't know maybe they've set a trend here. You're laughing at the Wu-Tang Clan

2:35:41 Yeah, we're gonna have to call you uh You know and we have to give you a hip-hop name. Oh, that's okay all right when do we do this? Let's do it soon before the vinegar book comes out That's why don't we do it right after the show today We're gonna you and I are gonna continue for another three hours other three hours Well, I think no. We can't do that because then the information won't be as fresh we're gonna have to first figure out how to do it and then we're going to do one of those extended ones. We'll do extended and auction it Okay but what do you mean how to do it? What does that mean? In other words, how would we set up the auction when are we gonna do it there's a number of variables that we have to get out of the way before we sit around for an extra three hours okay let's make it two-and-a-half they don't need to be boards Why don't we...

2:36:33 Why don't we make this the show where we revisit, you know five or six of our main thesi, thori, the thingsi. Yeah we do a meta show it's not a clip show but a meta show about the show that's meta and it will reintroduce everything so whoever gets to buy this thing will be the real they'll be the the aficionado of Noah Jenner They'll know everything there is to know And we'll put in stuff about, oh I know. Oh! I have an idea. I got a much-I have the idea of all ideas Okay Why don't we just do a regular show but we do video and then we put that in the vault Everyone wants video? You want it that bad? Here it is That's not a bad idea Bid on it Yeah We can get ourselves to the video And yeah, and I'll do over the shoulder Both of us have to do over the shoulder

2:37:34 So you can see how I hit the jingles, how i run everything. Screw it! I'll have someone in here with a handheld camera the whole show filming everything not just some bogative like little Skype thing you know over-the-shoulder you'll see how everything works You'll see me drinking coffee, you'll see my ticks going that'd be cool right? Alright, I think this is a winner. And you too though! Yeah yeah, I'll have somebody. You're on the Shays Lounge... I'm gonna have two cameras and a mixer Two cameras? There ya go. It's a four camera shoot right? Yeah. Okay. A little video switcher, bing bing bing no problem. I think that's a winner. I'll use a fader

2:38:23 You're not, you know... you can have someone else do that. Oh okay well I like to do the VJing No! You gotta be doing the show with me The whole point is your doing the show And then we'll let everyone know when were gonna do it So he's going to have to clean up my office? NO! John Do you want any value for this thing?! Okay your right no one else is gonna see so what difference does it make It's gonna be locked away until its like Until we are equal to the Wu-Tang Clan And, uh... I'm looking at Wu-Tang Clan right now. But I want—I wanna wear the red jacket!

2:38:59 And you're gonna wear the yellow jacket with those big jeans. That is a great look! Yeah, especially for me... And I'll have Miss Mickey here and she'll be walking in and out... Naked? No, with her Miss Mickey outfit on. Uh-huh. Sunday. And I'll throw in pancakes I'll throw in pancakes. All right, good! We've decided...I like it. One last little clip? Yep Which is uh i just get a kick out of this every time it happens This is Amy Goodman telling us without blinking an eye that essentially Obama's a fascist but you know she still votes for him I'm sure President Obama has reauthorized the government's bulk collection of phone data for 90 days despite calling for the practice to end

CHAPTER 31 / 33 Discussion

Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept and USAID Cuba Twitter

The Associated Press revealed a USAID-funded "Cuban Twitter" project designed to stir unrest. The hosts criticize Glenn Greenwald and *The Intercept* for failing to break the story despite their massive funding from Pierre Omidyar, noting that Greenwald's subsequent "we knew this" response was pathetic.

glenn greenwald· the intercept· usaid· cuba· twitter· pierre omidyar

2:31:14 Shoot have you heard about this? I know the Wu Tang clang, but what is this? Oh well here's the background. I'm not up on the Wu Tan scam This is the Wu tan scam clip Aston Berry in June. Another highly anticipated album is the latest offering from the Wu-Tang Clan but this is something that not everyone's actually gonna have the chance to hear, will they? Absolutely it will never be streamed online and you can't buy from iTunes and if you want to pick one up from the shops you can't do that In fact, there will only be one physical copy of the album and most of us will never get our hands on it because it's going to be locked away in a Moroccan vault. But not forever! The group do plan to tour the album around festivals museums and galleries

2:32:04 And there you can listen to the new songs, but only on headphones. And once that's said and done they're going to be auctioning off the album and they hope to pick up millions for that But it's not just a gimmick if that's what your what your both thinking It's a statement as well would Bhutan clans say they want to elevate music back back to the form of high art? Certainly a different approach isn't it I think that's exactly where their album belongs locked up in Morocco So these two, this is the promotion. I don't know who PR agents are or who's behind this promotion it just seems like desperation to me and these two are saying...I say this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of Who was gonna buy this album at an auction for millions of dollars? And the 2 of them go yeah! Oh yeah! They'll get that for sure These millennials This is our you know hipster thing

2:33:00 I was just flabbergasted that anyone would buy into this bullcrap. They might auction the thing off and then somebody says they paid a million for it or two million, and what would be the point? This is the stupidest thing i have ever heard! I don't know if its the stupidest thing... It's pretty stupid Mean I like the gimmick. I liked it They got all this attention on fan cat going on and out with all these details would look like the Barack But come on looks like you know they've already had offers yeah, I'll offer him something Yeah, but RZA offered him five mil five RZA RZA RZA who's RZA? RZA is let's see if they explain in this article who RZA is let's see um

2:33:49 The, uh... Maybe it is the Arzy. I have no idea John! I was on MTV when Courtney Love was still interesting to look at. I have no idea what's going on here but see here headline! New Wu-Tang Clan album the case for the world's first five million dollar album. I can see where that's high art. I get it. You know there's no more money in music There's no money in music Where would there be money in one album? Okay, let's see. Let's do a shot tell you what we're gonna do us no agenda show one No agenda now You're talking and we're going to talk in the vault yep auction it off to the highest bidder And is never going to be played It's gonna be a special three hour no agenda yeah that we're gonna test do the same deconstruction We always do but it's not gonna be available to anybody except of winner-of-the-awards

2:34:45 So and it will not be it'll be what are we ever aired? Are we putting it on a thumb drive or? On this disc CD. We have to come up with some Hey, digital copyright why not just put it on magnetic tape There's the thought I think I do I have a couple of tape recorders Yeah, we can put on 1 quarter inch yeah quarter-inch for Trek I think this is a great idea. Okay, so it's going to be one three hour and it will never be aired Never! And we're going to do an auction You know what? This may work you may be very surprised John Yes, I will be very surprised You may be very surprised Yeah, yeah, I will be yeah... You don't know maybe they've set a trend here. You're laughing at the Wu-Tang Clan

2:35:41 Yeah, we're gonna have to call you uh You know and we have to give you a hip-hop name. Oh, that's okay all right when do we do this? Let's do it soon before the vinegar book comes out That's why don't we do it right after the show today We're gonna you and I are gonna continue for another three hours other three hours Well, I think no. We can't do that because then the information won't be as fresh we're gonna have to first figure out how to do it and then we're going to do one of those extended ones. We'll do extended and auction it Okay but what do you mean how to do it? What does that mean? In other words, how would we set up the auction when are we gonna do it there's a number of variables that we have to get out of the way before we sit around for an extra three hours okay let's make it two-and-a-half they don't need to be boards Why don't we...

2:36:33 Why don't we make this the show where we revisit, you know five or six of our main thesi, thori, the thingsi. Yeah we do a meta show it's not a clip show but a meta show about the show that's meta and it will reintroduce everything so whoever gets to buy this thing will be the real they'll be the the aficionado of Noah Jenner They'll know everything there is to know And we'll put in stuff about, oh I know. Oh! I have an idea. I got a much-I have the idea of all ideas Okay Why don't we just do a regular show but we do video and then we put that in the vault Everyone wants video? You want it that bad? Here it is That's not a bad idea Bid on it Yeah We can get ourselves to the video And yeah, and I'll do over the shoulder Both of us have to do over the shoulder

2:37:34 So you can see how I hit the jingles, how i run everything. Screw it! I'll have someone in here with a handheld camera the whole show filming everything not just some bogative like little Skype thing you know over-the-shoulder you'll see how everything works You'll see me drinking coffee, you'll see my ticks going that'd be cool right? Alright, I think this is a winner. And you too though! Yeah yeah, I'll have somebody. You're on the Shays Lounge... I'm gonna have two cameras and a mixer Two cameras? There ya go. It's a four camera shoot right? Yeah. Okay. A little video switcher, bing bing bing no problem. I think that's a winner. I'll use a fader

2:38:23 You're not, you know... you can have someone else do that. Oh okay well I like to do the VJing No! You gotta be doing the show with me The whole point is your doing the show And then we'll let everyone know when were gonna do it So he's going to have to clean up my office? NO! John Do you want any value for this thing?! Okay your right no one else is gonna see so what difference does it make It's gonna be locked away until its like Until we are equal to the Wu-Tang Clan And, uh... I'm looking at Wu-Tang Clan right now. But I want—I wanna wear the red jacket!

2:38:59 And you're gonna wear the yellow jacket with those big jeans. That is a great look! Yeah, especially for me... And I'll have Miss Mickey here and she'll be walking in and out... Naked? No, with her Miss Mickey outfit on. Uh-huh. Sunday. And I'll throw in pancakes I'll throw in pancakes. All right, good! We've decided...I like it. One last little clip? Yep Which is uh i just get a kick out of this every time it happens This is Amy Goodman telling us without blinking an eye that essentially Obama's a fascist but you know she still votes for him I'm sure President Obama has reauthorized the government's bulk collection of phone data for 90 days despite calling for the practice to end

2:39:53 In a statement, Obama said he'll sign an extension because Congress has yet to approve his proposed reforms. Speaking to NBC's Meet the Press, Democratic Senator Ron Wyden said Obama should end bulk collection on his own Well, I believe the president ought to make the transition right away. I believe strongly we ought to ban all dragnet surveillance on law-abiding Americans not just phone records but also medical records purchases and others under Obama's proposal phone companies would store the metadata and the government would mine it using individual court orders Yeah, and as it turns out the phone companies will actually be storing more data than ever now. And did you see of course the AP came out with that story about which was a non Snowden related story about the USAID State Department essentially funding the Bogative Cuba Twitter? Did you see... yeah I saw it's hilarious but did you see and uh you probably missed it know there's that 250 million dollar WordPress blog called

2:40:55 The inter... intercept? You ever see that? The intercept. Yes, Grant Greenwald! So Grant Greenwald- Oh yeah I saw that when it first came out for some reason i haven't ever revisited it so grant greenwell you know here's what here's what happens so this comes out from the AP Associated Press then there is a monster story a monster story I tell ya again It's Pierre. Yeah? What up man, what's up- how come we didn't have that story? Didn't Snowden don't we- who is it I put 250 million dollars into this WordPress blog of yours! How come we don't have that story Gren?! Yeah yeah exactly Gren so he comes out with his long drawn out thing and you know is like yeah we knew this

2:41:47 Yeah, look here's some data. Here is a PowerPoint slide that shows that we knew this was happening It's really pathetic you got to read this stuff John you gotta keep up with these guys because they're looking pathetic It was pretty funny Okay I'll start reading it again. I liked it and I thought it was pretty funny at least Oh and ladies and gentlemen little no agenda technology news for ya Brand new on the scene the Amazon Dash Have you seen the Amazon Dash? No, the Amazon dash is a it's a little device that kind of you hang it in the kitchen somewhere and It says like a key. It's got a microphone on it Yeah Oh, it says bug yourself The idea is if you can scan items at home when you need something and it orders it for you or you just yeah Simply say it or scan it to just say hey I needed be press the button you go Hey, I needed dog food

CHAPTER 32 / 33 Discussion

Boston Marathon Bombing Book, Crisis Actors and Hospital Proximity

A new book by *Boston Globe* reporters, *The Long Mile Home*, is discussed during an Al Jazeera interview. The authors claim the finish line was the "best place" for an attack due to the proximity of top hospitals. The hosts reiterate their theory that the event involved the FBI and potential "botched" elements or drills.

boston bombing· boylston street· al jazeera· crisis actors· fbi· marathon

2:42:46 Ladies and gentlemen, do not bring this device into your home. It is a spy device Do not bring this into your home I'm telling you people voluntarily let the spy on themselves for behalf of the government Do not bring this into your house and you know The scan is it the scanner as a camera? It's probably scanning constantly Yeah, do not bring this into your house people Just a little tip from the No Agenda Show. All right, I have one last clip. There's a new book out about the Boston bombing written by the people from the good folks there at the Boston Globe and so they're kind of doing the rounds

2:43:36 What's the name of this book? The Long Mile Home, Boston Under Attack. The City's Courageous Recovery and the Epic Hunt for Justice. And of course this comes out less than a year before the anniversary. There is only one review so far This is not only a book you stay up late reading, it answers the questions you might have about the bombing. And the background conveys some of the flavor qualities and attitudes of Boston and Bostonians for me it ranks up there with Helter Skelter as a narrative of a horrible crime yeah no that's not a plant So they're out doing the rounds and they show up on Al Jazeera.

2:44:27 And you also say in the book that in a serendipitous way, if there had to be a terrorist attack somewhere in the US. The finish line on Boylston Street with the medical tent already in place and six of the top hospitals anywhere within a mile or two was the best place it could happen Now before we continue, give me a break. So we kind of came up with the thesis that this was part of our six-week cycles theory yes because it came right on the six week cycle and involved the FBI. Everything keeps pointing to this being something of a botched scam yeah exactly and there probably were some crisis actors there some people got really hurt

2:45:09 and maybe some really got killed. The bombs actually went off, they were not supposed to go off there were drills before everything was all set up then even admitting it now hard to look at it that way but true It really is true the finish line of the marathon within a mile or two of that location you have a half dozen of these hospitals that are so well equipped to handle this situation You also have because of the marathon itself a massive medical operation that's set up right there to deal with potential problems that runners could deal with. So, you have tons of volunteers on hand doctors and nurses who are there so people were really I think kind of stunned as awful it is to have three people die it could've been so many more had you not had these kinds of resources in place. No no its incredible when we look at these images that were showing again that the results

2:46:03 As good as they were despite the deaths and these terrible injuries now. Yeah, yeah Go down another ground there get one of those stupid dude They got some crazy looking things running underground there I have a you know You gotta wonder do you gotta wonder if if the Boston strong? T-shirts and hats weren't already all printed up yeah well you're gonna have trouble Yeah. There's no way to prove it? No way to prove it? No. No way to prove it? Well, that book sounds like something that just not gonna get us anywhere. It doesn't sound like something I'm actually interested in reading...I'm reading four books now! This is nuts! I'm still reading the Gates book which is kind of dry and boring and I don't think I'll be able to finish that. You know, I kinda got steered away after 80 pages of The Flash Boys

CHAPTER 33 / 33 Discussion

Carlotta Gall, Pakistan ISI and Afghanistan War

Author Carlotta Gall discusses her book *The Wrong Enemy*, which argues that the U.S. has been fighting the wrong target in Afghanistan. She claims the Pakistani intelligence service (ISI) and former President Musharraf actively supported and regrouped the Taliban while pretending to be American allies in the War on Terror.

carlotta gall· pakistan· isi· taliban· afghanistan· musharraf

2:47:07 Yeah, now that our banker buddy said it's not even the real story. Yeah the story apparently is not this story. So I just don't really have... It's just really nice..it's not good! Well there's another book here i got a clip here from this woman kind of a boring person but she makes some interesting points This is the she talks too long and this is kind of you know these clips are horrible but blah blah blah Afghanistan won Okay. Author of the new book, The Wrong Enemy America and Afghanistan 2001 to 2014 she joins me now thanks for being with us thank you all right so why the title The Wrong Enemy who's the right enemy?

2:47:44 This is why I wrote the book because we've been fighting a war for 10 years more that I covered it against in the Afghan villages, against the Afghan people and against the Taliban obviously. And I came to realize that the Taliban is supported by the neighboring country Pakistan and really more than just support, you know strategically pushed into get leverage over Afghanistan to have control and have a proxy army there for Pakistan's benefit and I saw so much over the years that I felt I had to write it and lay it out, show that all the effort of the West and America was concentrated on fighting in the villages in Afghanistan when really

2:48:31 the source of the problem was over the border in Pakistan. So give us some examples, you go into painstaking detail on how ISI, the intelligence services of Pakistan had essentially supported the Taliban in Afghanistan while the US were trying to fight them? Yeah, and pretending to be an ally. So you had President Musharraf in Pakistan saying he was an ally in the war on terror but in fact I uncovered things that he was doing aiding and abetting the Taliban at first organizing a meeting right after...in 2001 right after the fall of the Taliban how to regroup them.

2:49:12 What is she saying? She just says that this whole Afghani war is corrupt. But it's a book idea for you to read, if you want to get into another boring book. It probably reads like she talks You know what I think we better get out while we're on this low. What do you think? Yeah, all I have left is Chad. Oh no no forget about it. I have 30 seconds of Nancy Pelosi talking about the... Forget about it screw her. Forget it. I'm not interested in her. Alright well but keep Nancy Pelosi in abeyance for the possibility on The Thursday Show Okay Because I always enjoy listening to her. I flipped this morning early so... All right everybody Well! I am very excited about our Wu-Tang agenda

2:50:01 Four cameras over the shoulder video Not to be seen by anybody ever except for one lucky person in our Wu Tang auction You have it. That's right. That's the future all right, so I'm gonna get yeah, I mean hey don't knock it my brother you never know Someone out there might really really want one thing for sure will be the only time we do video I guarantee you that And I am here in Gitmo Nation proper, capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region 6. Good morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley...I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n-a-j