Experiential Evidence

00:00 Hello. Yeah, here I come. It's a Clydesdale! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, March 9th, 2014. Time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 5, 9 or 8. This is no agenda. amongst the hipsters and douche knuckles visiting FEMA Region 6. From the Travel Sites Hideout in Austin, Texas in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm out of bottled water, I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, you should not be drinking bottled water anyway, John. Who cares?

00:44 Well, it's... Says who? Well, it's much better to filter your water and have a... I like it. This brand is good. What brand do you drink? Crystal Geyser. Oh, that is nice. Well, it's South by Southwest everybody. Yeah, I was just there. Yeah. Have you been tweeting from South by again? John? Yeah, I've been tweeting. I just flew back in this morning to back to California. But I'm going to after I do Leo show. Yeah. You're gonna go right back. I actually I spent a little time looking at the tweets from from South by. My goodness, this is... what a dumb show this is. By the way, attention, attention all South by Southwest attendees. Internet advertising is a Ponzi scheme. Gotta let them know once in a while, they're gonna start believing their own hype. If you just do a search on Twitter for hashtag SXSW... Yeah? Oh man, it's so dumb. Let me give you a little sampling, shall I?

01:48 Yeah, let's read some tweets. Here we are in the No Agenda Show, ladies and gentlemen. We're reading tweets. Which, by the way, could be a show. 75% of adults non-adherent to doctor's advice. South by... hashtag SXSW. Seriously, this is what it is. What was that? Yeah, it's just... these are the tweets. Let's see. Get a sneak peek at what's to come in Beautiful Death at the hashtag GoTex exhibit. It's just everything is dumb. I'm telling you, every... And Miss Mickey, she's like, hey, hey man, you gotta get me into some of these events. I'm like, well, no. What events would she wanna go to? I think she wanted to see Lady Gaga. She's gonna be doing a keynote. She's about to come in and beat me over the head now. But here's the funny thing. Lady Gaga's doing a keynote and Mickey's gotta go see it. Let me lock the door, hold on.

02:53 But here's the funny thing. She's not actually doing a keynote, but she'll be interviewed for a keynote panel by... That's a lazy man's keynote. Oh, yeah, it's the best kind of keynote. By... You sit there and they ask you stupid questions. Yeah, but the interview is by John Norris. And of course, I know John Norris. We worked together for, I don't know, eight years at MTV. Okay. And I said to Mika, I said, I will lower myself. If you wish, I will lower myself to his level and ask if he has any way to get you in. Because he's a dick.

03:29 Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, he rocks. He rocks, that guy. As long as he's got the free ticket. Oh man, oh man, oh man. Nah, so anyway, it's interesting. There are some people in town, so it's just weird. Although it rained like crazy yesterday. It was like a complete washout. Well, good. Got that crap out of the air for you. No, the mold is super high. This, of course, is also my wife. She went to the... She drove for like 20 minutes to go get my medication. What medication? Quercetin. Do you have an ointment? Yeah, quercetin, nettles and mold mix. That's the only thing that helps. I was literally feeling faint. And you do remember what happened with the mold allergy? I sleep for 18 hours a day. So you have a mold allergy and you have to take nettles? Yeah, quercetin. The nettles is just a, it's nice to have, but it's quercetin really, which is an anti-inflammatory. Yeah. Cookin' turmeric too. Yeah.

04:27 Oh man, oh man, oh man. Yeah, well mold is bad. What kind of mold are we talking about? Leaf mold? Yeah, yeah, like the mold from trees and whatever, wherever it comes from, yeah. Oh, you're doomed. And those of you who are listening a couple episodes behind... which I think a lot of people really are two episodes behind on the No Agenda show. It's terrible. Yeah. You are not allowed to email any articles unless you are au courant. Yes, absolutely. That is a solid rule. We talk about something for maybe hours and then somebody sends us a message like all babies are going to be born with two heads and we discuss it and discuss it and discuss it.

05:09 A week later we get a memo from one of our producers, hey look at this! Babies are being born with two heads! You are however always allowed to tweet articles if you're behind so that I can then retweet and ridicule you. That is okay. I'm kind of on a Twitter trip here because we had this plane disappear, this Malaysian Airlines flight. By the way I solved it. It was hit by that ICBM that Russia launched. Yeah, there are... Oh, you didn't think that was silly? You must actually think something like that's going on. How about Space Wars? Can we go there? Because I was reading through the Twitter again and Twitter needs to do something. They need to have Boolean search like you can do with Google where you do a minus... Well, here's the things I would like to... And or plus and all the rest of it. Right.

06:07 Because if you just do hashtag, what is it, MH370, whatever the flight number is, you really need to be able to omit, so sad, pray, OMG, God, and Allah. These are the tweets I do not need to see anymore. And it's so, people are so weird the things they will say about this, about an occurrence like this. I never really have done this in a big event, go look at Twitter, but everyone's just like, so sad, so sad. They don't even know what's going on. This is the Facebookization of Twitter. This is Facebook to me, this kind of crap. Little bit, yeah, little bit. Which is one of the reasons I don't like Facebook, is there's too much, and you're the one that brought it up.

06:55 You know somebody says, oh my dog died and then the next thing you know, oh your dog died. Well, no, you gotta like that. Sad, yeah I like it. I like it. I like it. Oh my, well okay so this is a perfect example. Now you're old enough to have some experience with this. Have you ever had where you think, like someone pops into your mind who you haven't talked to for, I don't know, maybe six months or a year. They don't live in your town. But like something is, briefly you think of them and then two days later you find out the guy dropped dead. Have you ever had that happen? Did this just happen to you? Yes, it happened yesterday. Okay, who dropped dead? Robert Pinot.

07:40 who was a friend of ours in Los Angeles, a Dutch guy and 55, 56 years old, drops dead of a heart attack. And I know, and two or three days ago, I recall him being in my head like, oh, you know, next time we're in LA, look him up, whatever. But maybe not even that. And then all of a sudden, my daughter says, oh, did you know Robert Pinot passed away? I'm like, eh. And so, and of course, you know, the thing I'm not going to do is go on Facebook and go, RIP, so sad. even though I am but it's then you see what people do it's strange I guess it gets away it's a modern way of mourning I presume but it's I don't know so anyway have you ever had that happen to you probably it feels crappy 55 you had a precognition it feels crappy no the precognition is is that's not the problem it's just 55 are you kidding me no

08:39 Was he on, was he in bad health or what happened? I don't know. I hadn't spoken to him for a year. Oh. And I feel bad. I could have saved him. Dude, drop some weight. That's an old thought. Yeah. So anyway, that's a bit of a bummer. I guess it happens as you get older, just more and more people die off. You just hope you're not one of them. No, it could hurt the show. So the and by the way last night Mickey and I were talking in bed because you know you would she knew it's actually I met him through her

09:17 And I said, you know, I'm not, I don't feel sad, sad, like I want to cry sad, but I'm bummed out because he was a fun guy. He was weird, you know, it was like, well, he was always doing something. He had a TV show lined up and all kinds of things was going on. And yeah, yeah, I'm working with Robert De Niro, one of those guys. It was funny though. And he actually has done a lot for me and for Mickey and for my daughter. But what was we were talking about you and I said well if John if John dies before me say I Won't really care so much. You know regarding the show. I miss talking to you. That's all I think I would just really miss that Yeah, I'd find something else to do cooking or something No, no the show will be dead it'll be over I can coast for a month or two tops maybe but then I have to find some other work and

10:17 But I would miss you. I would. Oh, I'd miss you too. No, you wouldn't. Or if you were executed. That would bother me more actually because I'd be concerned that well, I don't know, maybe I'm next or like... It would be a little annoying. Yeah. Mr. Adam Curry. So this this Malaysian aircraft now, I do want of course it before you go there. Hold on a second. You're moving Well, we already there you already had the ICBM theory I threw that in but that ICBM I'm thinking is more and more fishy

10:54 But let's go back to the Twitter thing. So I opened my Twitter because you brought the subject up and here's a bunch of pictures like I guess the big so you know the big celebrity must be at the big celebrity. Well, I can tell you I can tell you exactly who they are. The big celebrities are Ashton Kutcher's walking around. Of course we have Julian Assange was on the Skypes and it was boring. Yeah, we heard about that. And Snowden is gonna be on the Skypes. And apparently there's somebody screwing with the Skype connection. Oh, sure. It's even I... But they said. Yeah, okay. And then Lady Gaga. But she's not roaming around. No, she's not roaming around. And she won't be roaming around. Steve Case, Eric Google. Now Robert Duvall.

11:40 Really? I got two pictures of him. Here's one from Tech Technology USA Today Mike Schneider live with right in the photo live with Robert Duvall Another one is here's Ed Begg Can't resist a selfie with Godfather consigliere Tom Hagen aka Robert Duvall and Duvall looks like he's 90. Oh, yeah In fact, he doesn't even look like Duvall when I saw this picture said who are these two farts? and then I, oh huh. Well it's funny you mention that because at a certain point, you know when men grow older they become distinguished and they look, you know, they look distinguished and they sometimes they start to look better and then there's a tipping point. Right. And this tipping point, well, my tipping point. I watched that, I watched that Chicagoland, the first series of Chicagoland on CNN which is produced by Robert Redford.

12:39 And I don't know if, is there no one in Robert Redford's group who can say, hey Rob, Bob, Mr. Redford, chapstick. I mean it looks disgusting and he's producing it so it was a close-up of his head, his full screen, and his lips are all like cruddy, chapped, and you know it's like It's very up in the Colorado mountains most of the time chapstick that's all just wreaking havoc on his already wrinkled to death face do not go on television with your cracked up crackle crumpy crusty literally crusty lips it's like he had a glazed donut

13:26 And there's crust in the... Oh, it's just disgusting. Hey, you're complaining about my analysis of the Academy Awards last show, now you're going off in this direction? No, I wanted to get into Malaysia. I'm ready to talk about... Okay, okay, I'm done. My wife has already divorced me for outing her on the Gaga thing. Well, she'll get grief about that for sure. No. If it were easy to go, I'd go too. If I'm gonna go see a keynote, the one I wanna see is Gaga. There's good to Gaga. There's some Pulitzer. Hey, there's a couple of Nobel Prize winners giving a talk. Now, Gaga. Shut up, John. Now you're making me look bad. Stop. Stop. All right. Okay, so the Malaysian thing. There's a couple of things I'd like to set out. First of all, this is interesting because

14:17 the plane seems to have just disappeared. There was no, you know, it went off quote-unquote radar, which isn't really radar, it's ADS-B system. So, you know, there's different systems that we're looking at here, but we never saw... it just, the systems went off, stopped communicating as far as we know. and there was no drop in altitude or any of that and that makes it very complicated to the point now where there's even discussion that maybe they had some event and they turned around and tried to land somewhere instead of crashing into the water. Who knows? And we really, really don't know. But this is different from normal

14:59 It's a little different than the Air France accident, for instance. We just have more, we have less, much less data this time. Now I will say that we have three Boeing stories in a row and we are always on the lookout for the Airbus versus Boeing. So it's certainly being taken advantage of because it started with the hairline fractures in the Dreamliner 787 carbon fiber plastic wings, which you know I'm not a fan of that. Then we had the Malaysian... I'm not a fan of Boeing's outsourcing their whole product all around the world and then making a piece of crap that cost three times as much as if they made it right up here up in the Washington State area. And then we had an emergency landing... Oh, it's a Boeing. It's a Boeing. I also will say I've never been a fan of the 777. I never liked the idea of long-haul with just two engines.

15:55 I just never really and they're big these huge engines. Yeah, I know so That's a nice cross-country plane. It's very comfortable. Yeah, I'm not a fan of it So I'm kind of I'm looking at it from obviously from an aviator aviation angle There's a couple of things I know for sure one the passport thing. This is abnormal The ICAO system, ICAO is the International Aviation Organization, everyone's a member of it. The passport system, which is a part of the airlines, is pretty rock solid. You know, if your passport is stolen, unless you haven't reported it, and I'm pretty sure these passports were reported stolen,

16:37 There's a flag worldwide. So for two or three or four or we don't even know exactly how many people to board with these stolen passports makes no sense. This is really very difficult to do. Getting in and out of countries maybe that that might be much easier but actually using it to go from one country to the next the airline will catch the, it should, and this has been going on since I think I think this system has been in place for 20 years. Yeah, and this is going into China too, which has other restrictions. It's sophisticated. This system is not, you know, like some new thing. So that's it. I'm not glossing over that too easily. It's like, oh, just some stolen passports. No problem. Hop on board. Then one of our producers, producer Jonas, sent me, I think he sent it to you as well,

17:31 Not wishing to add to the pain or throw out wild conspiracies about yesterday's 777 crash. You likely already know the two of the passengers were traveling on bogus passports, etc, etc, etc. What you may not know is that the timeline, the same, so he says yesterday, we got this two days ago, other major news broke in the country. And this concerns the former Deputy Prime Minister Anwar bin Ibrahim. Now this is a very old ongoing story. I think 15 years ago the guy was apparently caught sodomizing his wife's limo driver and so he was removed from his position on charges of sodomy. Homosexuality of course is against the law. I'm not exactly sure of the law in Malaysia

18:22 He went to, you know, so this is, he hasn't really been in jail but this has been an ongoing process. He joined the opposition party, which I know it's pun intended, but he joined the opposition party and in an upcoming election he was about to become the chief minister of Selangor, the most populous state in Malaysia. Then yesterday, so this is, you know, the same time this accident takes place or that we hear about the accident, His charges have, so he was acquitted, the charges have been overturned which means he will have to go back to jail for five years. So I started looking into this guy and this guy is a CIA favorite or at least he was and this is why I'm going hey maybe we can tie this in somehow.

19:12 And, you know, Wikileaks released his bank accounts. This guy's got like $8 million in the Bank of Israel, from Mossad, of course. He's got $10 million in Citibank. He's got millions of dollars everywhere. And lo and behold, when I went to look at the State Department briefing, there's our buddy Matt. And he of course asked the question. Now this is before we knew about the Malaysian airline incident, whatever it is, which literally happened that night of this questioning.

19:48 So these things are always just coincidental, but you got to ask yourself what, why, how. And if we have stolen passports that got through, maybe someone who didn't want to go to jail was traveling on a stolen passport. I don't know. It's possible. But here's Matt talking to Jen Psaki about this case. Interesting. Well, we of course, given how lengthy it has been, have followed the trial very closely over a long period of time. The decision to prosecute Mr. Anwar and his trial have raised a number of concerns. This is her, she actually had to look in the book to find the statement to read, but here it is. Regarding the rule of law and the independence of the courts. In this high profile case, it is critical for Malaysia to apply the rule of law fairly, transparently.

20:33 and apolitically in order to promote confidence in Malaysia's democracy and judiciary. The ruling also comes on the heels of the February 21st conviction of another opposition figure, Karpal Singh, on sedition charges that also raised concerns. While we have a strong partnership with Malaysia, we have raised, of course, the Anwar case with Malaysian officials and emphasized that fairness, transparency, and the rule of law are essential to have the confidence needed in their judicial system. So do your concerns extend beyond what you seem to be saying are concerns about political motivation to the actual offense that he has been convicted and sentenced of? You seem to have strong opinions about anti-

21:23 Sodomy anti-gay laws in places elsewhere like Uganda Do you make the same case with the Malaysians? So this is interesting and Matt of course again There was no knowledge of this accident but he is pointing out the obvious that these guys are favorites of the State Department ie the CIA and Because he's saying, hey, how come you're not talking about the anti-gay laws that may be on the books there? There's no big deal about Malaysia. Is this guy kind of your buddy? You want him to have fair treatment because you... I don't have all the details of what he's been sentenced on. I mean, I've read a little bit about it, but not probably enough.

22:03 Blow jobs, Jen, blow jobs. When he was first arrested you were probably too young to know what it was. What a blow job was. This goes back, I was a money... No, it's 15 years ago, she's probably, well who knows. Younger man, you might have been in grade school still when this whole thing started. But so can you check to see if you have raised the issue of the actual law that he has been convicted and sentenced of as I understand that there are the political concerns. Sure. But that's the... Can I follow up on that? Yeah. You didn't... I mean, you talked about the importance of things being handled apolitically. It used to be the U.S. government's position that the prosecution of Anwar Ibrahim was politically motivated. Is that still your view? It is. Okay, there we go.

22:52 I like that point by the way, you know, there's all the anti-gay laws in Malaysia are extreme and why nobody makes a fuss about that but they make a fuss about all the other ones. Because we like the guy there. Yeah, we like that guy and we've given him money. So, you know, the one thing's for sure when you ask anyone on the street today about Malaysia, they're not going to say, hey wasn't that guy like arrested? And then they overturned it and tried to throw him in jail? No, you're gonna hear about the plane that never came home. I think we need to keep our eye on that. Well, if the plane didn't crash and you ask somebody on the street, they would say, what? What? What? What was that? Whatever happened to this aircraft? Honestly, I think there's a bigger chance it never took off. That's more likely than anything else I've heard.

23:50 Well, then where are they gonna get where are they getting the radar signature? Whatever was that they saw it's a website you're looking at This is official documents. Yeah. Yeah, you show you show me I mean I I would know where to get it if I had access to it But this is all just internet stuff. Who knows? Who knows? There's been no heat signatures, no sonic indications. They found some oil, which is of course an old gambit. Yeah. It's from the World War II movies. The old oil slick, eh? That's what they do with the... Empty the tubes! The submarine trick. Put your laundry in the tubes. Yeah, yeah, some furniture, break it apart, yeah. Oh look, there's a bunch of laundry in the water. They must have sunk. Looks like a direct hit, Captain.

24:38 Yeah, exactly. That is just about the oldest trick in the book. So anyway, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with this, but Twitter is unusable. That's for sure. Twitter has always been unusual. Sometimes you get an early warning of a news story that's breaking. But by the time, everyone says, oh, all you have to do is get Twitter, just follow Twitter. That's where the news is now. That's where all the news is. And all these bullshit pundits, these old guys who never used a computer in their life and they really liked their iPad, they all think that Twitter's really the future. And even though they work for newspapers, many of them, that's just ludicrous.

25:18 Speaking of the South by Southwest news, I think you I think you summarized it. Oh just a bunch of garbage Well, it's just one big promotional. Oh, I have to say I did not know that Gaga was gonna be there No, this was just my back tonight You're gonna be pissed because you're gonna know I'm gonna come is she talking today? No, no, no, no, I think it's Tomorrow, I thought I'll be able to catch it. Yeah. All right good But speaking of court cases, our knight in New York who was arrested for his drone posters? Yes, and which we're supposed to get samples of it never did unfortunately. Well. He's been busy Completely exonerated all charge all charges have been dismissed good now you can do another set We got some new art ideas for you

26:11 I'll tell you what, why don't we... That's a long... that happened like two or three years ago. Yeah, yeah, well... They were great, those posters. Yeah, these things do take a long time. Well, the problem was he had a 22 under his bed or something. But I think the search was illegal. That's why he... that's why the charges were dropped. So... That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, yes. Anyway, yes, South by Southwest. It's... Gilligan and Gatlin are one of those things. Mm-hmm. Anyway, I would like to just early on here John like to thank you for your courage and give you a hearty in the morning Already in the morning to you Adam Curry also a hearty in the morning all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and all the Knights out there and also to our artists I somehow I

26:56 It slipped my mind to thank Joshua Pettigrew for episode 5, 9, or 6. Which was a great piece of art. It was a great piece. Martin JJ on 5, 9, or 7, thank you both very much. Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can always find the submissions. We may not, of course there's no way we can use everything for the album art, but it shows up in... obviously in newsletters. There's also the No Agenda album art book on the iBookstore, also downloadable as a PDF. I'll put the link into the show notes again. And in the morning to everyone there in the chat room, noagendastream.com. Good to see y'all showing up for today's extravaganza. Unlike everybody here at South by Southwest, we do not think, in fact we know we're not going to make any money advertising,

27:42 Advertisers would run away from us the minute they heard the first 15 minutes. Right, they can't put up with this. Therefore we are very happy that we have chosen for the Value for Value model people who produce this program and literally do produce it by supporting us financially and we have a number of executive producers and associate executive producers to thank today. We do as a matter of fact. Let's thank the executive and associate executive producers for show 598. Two shows away from show 600. And we do have a show 600 donor, anonymous, from South Dakota. I believe this is, it says anonymous from South Dakota, but I believe it could be Warren Buffett.

28:34 Could be. Could be. Hey boys, talk them trains up a little bit more, would ya? All aboard, trains good, planes bad. So this would be anonymous number one for the 600 Club. It's very possible we get more. Yes. Anonymous. In fact, we had, didn't we already have one anonymous? This would be anonymous from South Dakota, which is exactly the title. Yes. Alright, good. Sir David Foley, 598, and he made a vote. The newsletter went out of course Saturday and it had a voting system whereby you would put in between the numbers between 1 and 5 as pennies in a regular donation and they would count as votes.

29:16 And four, I believe, was one of the selections. I don't have that newsletter in front of me. I should open one, I guess. Wow, great, John, the one that you wrote. Yeah, great. So this is about Easter weekend. I had requested in a meeting, a company meeting, a stand-up meeting, I'd requested to have that Sunday off. And of course, we still want to have some kind of programming so that we have as options We do a show on a different day, we do an interview show, we do a clip show, or you don't let me go at all. I think. Or we move the show. We move the show. There's no do the show. And number five means we just go dark.

30:06 And we got a number of votes for that which I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Okay, so what is for? You'll keep the tally going. We'll know. After we get to the main part we'll discuss this. When we get more numbers we can start to discuss it. Good. But that's David Foley who I went over and visited. He's down in San Jose. Oh nice. and chatted and he never didn't send note in on this 598 but I'm sure he's really wants some he's got a cute little company called nanotech down there that sells the 4k screens and he's gonna have a little streaming device which will stream 4k and lining up

30:49 content providers. I know, I know. He keeps, his suggestion was to have Skype of the show and stream that. I'm like, don't you want something pretty on these screens? You don't want us? Why don't you put it on there for people who want to just listen to something? It's not gonna hurt anyone. Yeah, no, but he wants the Skype video. He wants, it's 4K. Oh, we're not doing video. Thank you. Thank you. Oh yeah, you're right. You said he suggested this a couple times that we should put the cans on our head and have the big mic in front of our mouth and sit there yakking into a microphone as though that's entertaining. Just so you know, I've only been to John's house once and even when I went there I wasn't even allowed to see, I have not seen his studio.

31:34 or office or whatever it is. Who's, me? Yeah, you wouldn't let me go upstairs. No, the place is a mess. Yeah, so why would... My studio's a mess. It's a messy studio. So no one else would be able to see it. And I would have heard nothing but grief, knowing you, I would hear nothing but grief about it. Was that really the reason why you didn't let me go? Because you were afraid that I would give you grief about it? No, no, I wasn't afraid. You knew. You just knew for sure. I knew. All right. You're kind of a neat freak. A lot of people don't realize. You don't even think so yourself. No. But you have, we've talked about this before, you have Tourette's and Tourette's always, there was a great special on Tourette's on the PBS and one of the things that's an earmark of Tourette's people is they're neat freaks. This is not me. I'm not really a neat freak. That's what, I know, this is classic neat freak. You know, it's like you go to somebody's place, the place is kind

32:23 Clean as a whistle and there's a one piece of dust somewhere and they apologize for saying I you know I'm not just I'm just not that clean. I'm sorry. There's a piece of dust. You know I am NOT I'm not a neat freak I also don't have the cool the cool swearing kind of Tourette's no you don't with very few people have that that's a myth That's the best kind well. There's that one. Yeah, it was the most amusing I was on an airplane yeah, yeah, bomb bomb bomb terrorists terrorists 9-11 9-11 I was on an airplane with a Tourette's guy who they had to take off the plane. Really? They had to remove him from the plane? They had to remove him from the plane. That sucks. What was he doing? Well, he was sitting in first class up front as people were coming in and he was cussing at them.

33:16 He was just cussing away like a mad... I want to move on with the donations but from time to time I do meet people who also have some kind of mild form of Tourette's and it's really funny because You know, then I'll be ticking a little bit and that person will be doing their head thing. And I just, I always imagine what it must look like to a third party. It's like, what kind of mating ritual are these guys into? This is really weird. But we, but you know, the Tourette's people always recognize each other and you don't go like, hey, you too. You don't say that. Just like, tick, tick, tick. All right.

34:01 Anyway, okay, let's give him some karma. Let me give him some karma. Thank you very much. Sir David Foley, Duke of Silicon Valley. And he'll of course be the 5'9 or 8 club. Yes. Paul Cowan, 5'22, 24 in Glasgow. I have a question for you though. Yeah? Why would Warren Buffett be in South Dakota? Isn't that where he hangs out? Isn't that where he has his meetings? Is that the big meeting or is that Nebraska? Omaha. You're right, Nebraska. Well, South Dakota, Nebraska. Onward. Paul Cohen, yes. Paul Cohen. Glasgow. I feel I owe you guys this one after you woke me up from being woken up by all the other alternative media shysters.

34:55 I've been through Alex Jones and the very questionable Max Keiser, and I'm much, much, much more relaxed now after listening to this show. Oh. Well, first of all, thank you very much, Paul, for your courage and for producing, being executive producer of episode 5, 9 or 8. This is fact. While sometimes you can get some very interesting information from other programs, these two guys specifically base a lot of their economic model on fear, which to me is no different than mainstream media. Yeah, they're trying to scare you into buying gold and iodine tablets. Yes, yeah, and I don't like that.

35:40 I don't want to be a part of that. I can't do that anymore. I can't be, you know, when I was on MTV, it's scaring, you know, I would scare people into, you know, you're never going to get laid because you got pimples. So that's why you need oxy. You know, you're not going to get laid because you're drinking the wrong beer. You're not going to get laid because you got the wrong car. Pretty much you're not getting laid. Funny thing was I wasn't getting laid. That's the funny thing. There you go. Truman Child in Provo, Utah, $500. Noah Jenna, new listener, your show simply kicks ass. I hope I'm not committing a new listener faux pas with my donation request. Shout out to my 13 year old twins that listen to the show with me, Nick and Luke. Nick and Luke, hello! Having my name honored with a Putin. PUTIN! Pronunciation on the air. TRUMAN! Nice. Best regards Truman Child. Hey, Provo, so this might be another one of our LDS...

36:40 producers. We got a lot of uh yeah we do LDS producers. Performance is smart. Hell yeah. Well you know they also know all about us. They do? Yeah they got the big database. Oh yeah they would probably yeah they can do something. And you know this is we Utah is an interesting state. It's where the rain sticks came from. The magical rain sticks I would say. Yeah. Is this where you had your hallucination? Oh which one? Oh never mind. Let's move on. Yeah please. Christopher Wallace $444 and Ben zero zero cents in Bronx, New York. No letter that I can find. Ryan Benson three three three dot six nine in Tampa, Florida. JC and AC enjoying your latest you two sincerely bucked the trend with your work. I think your regular listeners don't appreciate how rare and insightful your analysis can be. Literally no one else does what you do and we must encourage you as much as much as we listen to you. I'm having trouble saying the word much.

37:38 It's okay. You have the clip from, what's his name, saying much. I think he said much. I don't have a clip. In fact, Thomas Jefferson might even say it's your duty to expose the truth and just plain old rational thought. which is what we do mostly, keep up the critical increasingly rare hard work. Sincerely your distinguished gentleman of the Tesla coil, Ryan Benson from Florida. I have been following of course the mainstream media really certainly news media loves the story of the two RT chickies and I want to talk about that after the donation segment but it really is true when you see how dense

38:22 And really just... I hate to... just because they're women, you know, I don't want to come across as misogynistic, but these two, they're not really the brightest. Who? The RT girls who quit, you know, the... Oh, the two RT girls. It's like... No, she didn't quit, one of them did. Abby's still working. No, I know, but no one's doing this kind of work. No one! I know. And but also the, you know, it's also because of how we do it that we can actually do this kind of analysis and drill down and we don't have to break for sponsors or some crazy... Right, if you want to continue... Top of the hour, gotta go. Whoa! Stop. We got to break away now because we got some commercial. No, we got a heartbreak. A heart out. Heart out. I got my heart out. As opposed to a hard in. Or a hard on. Okay. I'm sorry. I really shouldn't have said any of that.

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44:08 You've got karma. I had to think about all that. Yeah, it's pretty funny. And that will conclude our associate executive producers, executive producers for show 598. We do have a show coming up on Thursday, which would be 599. One day before it, one show before the 600th show. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA to continue the trend of support. I'm very excited about show 600. I'm looking forward to it. You are. Yeah, I am. Well, it is a celebration. It's a celebration of a model that no one else seems to even come close to and I believe that is mainly because we have an outstanding product. This is the part that people forget. You got no product, you got no money. Exactly.

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45:47 I got a new take on Ukraine as I was, you know, obviously everybody has an opinion on this. Every single news channel is filled with analysis. If it's not because Obama's weak, it's because Putin's strong. Everyone's got something going on. I'm getting a little tired of it. So I was hoping that this thing would have been settled out so much that we didn't have to talk about Ukraine by the way Obama I heard him say the Ukraine I know I've heard a number well also that cheeky What's-her-name? The one who quit she she worked at RT and she says though Ukraine continuously Yeah, she does very annoying. I need to play a couple clips one because

46:36 Well, the way she says Poo- Putin is just- I just can't get enough of it. She's just talking about pooping the whole time. And no one's calling her on it. So, I mean, she's on every single channel. CNN, but she was also on Fox- Fox News, Fox Business. She's all over the place and no one says- Excuse me. It's Putin. Tuh. Putin, not Poo-in. Poo-in. Are you American? Poo-in. POO-TIN! Not Poo-in. Now I want to reiterate you said something very important. Important. Important. Important. You said she is the multi-culti chick of the future that everybody likes and you are spot-on my friend. This girl, if she were working for us and we were running the news channel but we were running CNN, we should probably wind up

47:29 We, I mean, she's gonna be a great addition to whoever hires her. And I think the fact that she has not been snapped up yet, which I have proof of, I think, crazy. Oh you don't think that this was all part of a snap-up scheme? Well I'll give you my, well yeah I think it is part of a snap-up scheme but I'm not so sure that the deal was in the bag when she did it. Okay. But if you and I were running... She knows, she looks in the mirror she says, ah this is exactly what they're looking for. Except for her pronunciation of Putin. Putin! We'd have to work on the Putin thing. Listen to her, this is her with, well with Pu-er Anderson Pu-er

48:06 I think this was her second interview and what's clear is what's happening right now amid this crisis is that? RT is not about the truth. It's about promoting a pooh in this agenda and a pooh in this the I can't I can't get enough of it. Pooh in his tajenda. Pooh in his tajenda. It's also about bashing America and I kind of cited some of my background where I came from and why I am proud to be an American. The biggest basher is Abby Martin. It's hilarious to listen to this. I've been suffering from a lot of cognitive dissonance. I think we already had that one. And I can no longer work here and... By the way, she says work here.

48:53 I'm sorry, this was, I made a mistake. This was actually the first interview she did where she was on the set. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to confuse. This is the... I should have honked the horn. Yeah, you should have. I should have honked the horn. Let me honk it on myself. I got too many clips. Here she is with her new version of Pooin'. Uh, just, I, uh... Well, Pierce, that's the first time I saw their reaction. I was wondering what their reaction would be and actually, um, have... She's on Pierce Morgan. Hold on a second. We're not seeing her, so we don't see the multi-culte thing. Yeah. Listening to her voice, now I'm listening to her voice thinking about this. She sounds like an idiot.

49:32 Well, she does sound like an idiot, but she sounds like kind of us if you think about it as kind of a sexy sultry voice Uh-huh well yeah, if she wasn't giggling like a moron. I'm saying I think she's got she's in between an honest voice and a puker as you like to call them the And and a little bit sultry, I think she's got with a little coaching she does need to you If she can't pronounce Putin, I mean, come on. They're not going to put up with that. I think she's going to be huge. I think she'll go network. She cannot be left alone. This is the thing. She cannot go off-prompter. She's not allowed to ad-lib and she's certainly not allowed to do interviews, to be interviewed by anyone else.

50:19 Maybe she can interview if she leaves the questions, but she but she she said that MKUltra listen to this girl and I'm sorry. I apologize. I'll buzz myself now. It is from Piers Morgan. And listen to how she's giggling and pooing all over the place. Well, beer is that the first time I saw their reaction? I was wondering what their reaction would be and actually had some hesitations. I feared what would happen. what measures they would take against me, what retaliatory measures. I love this. What do you think they're gonna come up and shoot you in the back of the head or something because you resigned? What a crock! I was so afraid of retaliatory, I didn't know, I was hesitant because you know they might come up and they might kill me on me! Cossacks! They might whip me like Pussy Riot!

51:11 against me but at the end of the day, Pierce, like I said earlier on Anderson's show, I believe in the truth, trying to seek the truth and disseminating the truth. Here it comes, you ready? You ready? And what's become very clear especially in the face of this crisis with Crimea is that the objective of RT has been to promote Putin propaganda Pooing us wait wait there's one more promotes the the conflict as as Putin wants us to see it I can't get enough of her saying it Pooing us, pooing us, pooing us and to bash the US and make it look like we're the bad guys Really?

52:06 I'm gonna come back to the best best Liz wall clip ever But Abby Martin was Pierce had both of them on but it's the same segment Before you go on I want to mention something. Okay, so I decided well This has got to have people left the old good old boy lefties like Tom Thom Hartman in a you know panties in a bunch Uh-huh, so I decided to see what happened right after she quits. I watched the Tom Hartman show. Yeah, cuz he's an RT. He's an RT yeah, yeah, he's on RT and it was a guest host He couldn't even show up for work, he was so upset. And then the next show was a rerun of the Fall Apartment Show. What kind of entertainment is that? He's a pussy.

52:53 Oh yeah, it's a total pussy. He's gonna let it blow over and get him skulking back in the office not saying anything. Now a lot of people when they talk about Abby Martin I've been receiving a lot of emails saying, you know she's really trying you should give her a break. Like no, I'm not gonna give her a break because I've watched her show Breaking the Set. Breaking the... First of all, dumb name for a show. It's dumb. You're not breaking no set. And the set is like, you know, she means television set. When you say breaking the set, I always think of the set that you're on. Yeah, it's like a Broadway play. Okay, break the set. Break the set. It's lunch. Break the set, everybody. I mean, she is a prompter reader, and she's not a very good one. I also don't, personally, I don't find her sexy or cute. I find her mousy.

53:44 It's personal. because you she's... John, John, hold on. We are talking as television executives here. We're not talking... this is not how we talk about women. We respect women. We're talking as television executives. If I met Abby, I'd be very respectful. Absolutely, but we're not... And I like her art even though it's very amphetamine art from the 70s kind of thing. It's crazy. It is kind of kooky. But there was a picture of her painting and you can see the real Abby Martin. She's wearing a skimpy t-shirt and she's got you know kind of tight jeans on but not too tight not sexy tight and she's wearing flats so when she's on this show they dress her obviously high heels like this big high heel jimmy choo high heels that she can't walk on it's everything about that show is wrong around the set like a drunk

54:36 And then they give her questions. They have interesting guests on from time to time, but she is so boring. We could make it better with some coaching, but we'd have to get rid of the whole show, which is her show. It's my show. Whatever. Fine. It's not great. It's just not. There's nothing. It never goes deep. She is not deep. And as you'll hear, she's had no time to study up on Ukraine because she's been so busy with herself. Seriously, with herself. You conceded you weren't an expert in what is going on in Ukraine or indeed in Ukraine itself. I presume now you've probably come up to speed pretty quickly given all the attention that you've had. What do you think, with all your experience of broadcasting on RT America, is the correct way for this crisis to be resolved? Now, what would your answer be if you were coached by the Couric-Dvorak television host consulting group?

55:31 Well, I would go on and with a discussion of the responsibilities of the EU I would put it in Merkel's court for the obvious reasons which I'll have some clips of later since she's buddies with Putin a pooh in and And I think it's a European issue that the United States should not be involved in unless we do have some, we do have interests but our interests are all gas and oil related. Now could we boil that down to an answer for her? Do you think we could put on a little piece of paper? I think some talking points would work. I hope it resolves diplomatically, Piers. You know, you can imagine the last couple days have been pretty hectic. I haven't really been able to keep up with the day-to-day, but... Oh! I've been so... Yes, the couple... Never say something like that. The last couple of days have been pretty hectic. You either bluff your way through the answer or you say, I don't know, I have no idea what's going to happen. It's worse, she's saying it's been so hectic because everyone's wanting to interview me about me!

56:31 that I haven't had time to keep up with the news which is oh I don't know what I do please. I just hope for a peaceful outcome with no... Oh please and I want and I want all the black children in Africa to be saved why don't you add that to it Abby? This is a bad answer we seriously if you want I mean we're happy to help you out you can the RT people can get in touch with us but this is not how you do it. No more military aggression. I hope the military aggression is scaled back and I hope we can see a peaceful outcome. But I think that the real question that should be asked is why do I have to work for RT to tell the truth about corporations and the US government? Now, this is very interesting. Oh, she's... Now here she is doing what Liz Wall criticized the station for doing. Now listen to what she does. Now, we criticize mainstream media

57:22 because the way it works with advertising, you are not able to broach topics. And that's not even because of the advertiser itself, but advertisers have their own opinion. You don't have to say anything negative about Cadillac or Chevrolet. You can just say something they don't agree with or don't want to be associated with or you can be so controversial that groups will go after your advertisers and pressure them into dropping out. This happens all the time. Right, and it's very effective by the way. Now that is the message that Abby should be sending and if she had been coached by the Curry Dvorak Television Host Consulting Group we would have helped her deliver that message

58:05 while putting Pierce Morgan down, which is always fun when you do an interview. It's fun to say, hey, you're at that crappy station, you can't do it, but she messes it up so spectacularly. I mean, seriously, you guys are beholden to advertisers that you cannot criticize, and that's why I work for a station that I can criticize. Hang on, hang on, hang on a sec, I'm free to say what the hell I like. No one's ever told me I can't criticize advertisers or corporate entities. So this is what she, she said it wrong. Don't say you can't criticize advertisers. Of course he can say, I don't criticize advertisers. I'm not a total idiot. But that's not the problem. So she and all she can go is, I'm sorry.

58:49 She just does not get the cute girl pass for me. Can't criticize. She can't even breathe it's so dumb. Advertisers or corporate entities that conversation has never happened in the three years I've been on air at CNN. It never happens that's why. I have said this before I'll say it again to any new listeners this conversation that he's saying oh They don't come up to you and tell you not to do this or do that if that conversation never happens It's implied from the minute you work for the operation Exactly over the breads buttered. You're not an idiot if you're working as a writer or as a host You're not an idiot, so you don't have to you don't have somebody doesn't come down and say oh whatever you do Do never say anything bad about coca-cola there our main sponsor and so

59:34 Oh, okay, I won't say anything bad about Coke because I was like, I guess maybe I was going to. No, that conversation never happens. He's full of crap. He's disingenuous. He's a phony, this guy. But she's, well, he's also fired, but she's also dumb. She should, don't talk about criticizing the advertisers. That is not the, that's the smallest of all issues. You can't criticize an advertiser's political beliefs. If the advertiser's a big time Republican, you're gonna have to toe the line. If these are guys anti-abortion, you're gonna have to deal with that. The guys, oh, you're gonna get a note, you're gonna get a memo. We don't need to be discussing this sort of thing. We told you that we can't discuss this sort of thing. Well, it's just blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly. Upstairs. All right, now we're gonna move over to Neil Cavuto.

1:00:23 And he is on, is he on the Fox Business News? He's on Fox Business, he also shows up on regular Fox News once in a while. I don't know, I think this was Fox Business News. Now he has Liz Wall on, and this is very funny. Because Neil Cavuto, I never watch any of this but I got a hold of this clip. He's a smart guy. I appreciated what he did here because he's basically saying, did you get any job offers? Alright, so he's not letting up. So we're gonna find out about the job offers but we first find out that she actually worked for Sean Hannity as an intern. I didn't know this.

1:00:59 This was news to me. It's on her LinkedIn. So here, oh I'm sorry I should have done some investigative work. Oh no that's you do the LinkedIn stuff. I don't have a LinkedIn. Yeah I'm the LinkedIn guy. All right so now this is a very funny bit and she is so off the rails again if someone has already hired her and I would agree it would probably be CNN, you need to rein this girl in now Okay, before she's gonna do something really stupid and people will not think she's that cute anymore. I'm already there. See, I mean this is crazy. You can't be a serious news reader. As a giggler. Yeah, she's a news reader. She's a...

1:01:43 A news model is what she is. She's a news model and she's a good-looking news model. Yeah, no, there's no doubt about it. Don't let the giggling go. People don't know that you used to be an intern here at Fox News. I think you work with Sean Hannity. What do you do now? What do I do? Well it's all happening very very quickly. I'm taking it one day at a time. It's very it's happening very very quickly so I'm taking it one day at a time. Have you had any offers? Any job offers? It's all been happening really, really quickly. It's all been happening, I'm so hot right now, I think I'm gonna go to South by Southwest and walk around and just have everyone tweet that I'm here. Have you had any job offers? Who's called you up?

1:02:34 I don't know. To be honest, I wasn't expecting the firestorm of controversy and feedback that this has. People called you up and people said, hey, you know, we admire what you did. We want to talk to you. She's funny. That's how I do it. Hey, people call you up. Hey, you're hot, baby. You're smoking, huh? We want to hire you to read our news. You be a news model for us, please. She doesn't understand how to play the game. I've, I've, I've, I've, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I work for RT, I don't know. Is there any place you wouldn't go? Outside of RT, is there a place you would not go?

1:03:11 What do you think she's What do you think the answer to this question is John? Well, you know, she could say Fox Should be the most ironic thing to say no, so Listen the question question again Okay, is there a place you would not go I'm gonna I'm gonna you have three choices Okay, let me guess One of them of course should be back to our team, but we won't go with that no Al Jazeera. Okay, Al Jazeera will be one. Yes. All right. Let's see P- would PBS, no PBS wouldn't be, oh uh well the one she, well I'm thinking Pacifica but that won't be one. You want to put it on the list, Pacifica? Yeah put Pacifica down. The BBC, I don't know. BBC. And here comes your answer, get ready. Any place you wouldn't go outside of RT, is there a place you would not go? I would not go to North Korea. Okay. Wow.

1:04:15 North Korea. Hello everybody, it's North Korea news. I'm your news model, Liz Wall. North Korea. Okay. Okay. And Kabuto's like, okay, moron. Would you go to MSNBC? Uh, maybe. In play. MSNBC's in play. In play. Maybe. Did you hear all of a sudden she got serious? Maybe. Big tell. Would you go to CNN? Yes. Would you go to Fox? Would you go to Fox? Oh my gosh. Well, we'll see what offers stand. We'll see what offers stand. She's doing this so wrong. She's going to wind up with no job. No, she's going to wind up as a local someplace. Yes, exactly. Hello, Kalamazoo. Would you go to Fox Business? If you don't have it, you should demand it.

1:05:05 The wrap-up is good. He's saying you should go to you should demand Fox Business listen to how giddy and stupid she gets here I am demanding this okay now on air TV promotional anyways isn't it? That's what they're saying. Anyways. I love it. Anyways. All right now I play this to ridicule this poor woman obviously but also to show you. You're a shameless. I am. Ridiculing person. This is by the way if you get Erin Burnett in a situation like this she'll be just as giggly and dumb because these are news models. These are not journalists. They're not doing journalism like Grant Greenwald. They are reading prompter.

1:05:52 And they usually have writers. Yes! And they're not writing their own news either. Anyway. Get this out of your system finally. Yeah, I think it's well... And she showed up on CNN again this morning. I didn't clip it. That's because she's in the office to negotiate so she might as well do a show. This way they don't have to pay her. Exactly. Seems like a good idea. Ow. I've got a little jingle for her. I hereby dub thee Sir Douchebag. Congratulations. Dame Douchebag. There we go. Douchebag. My oh my oh my. Alright. Alright, you want to talk about Ukraine? Yeah, I got a couple things. Alright. There was a professor, Stephen Cohen, which we had on some clips from the last show. Yes. Who said the best thing to do is to push Merkel to take care of this problem. I don't see any clips. I presume he's been shot?

1:06:55 I didn't bring, I didn't move any of his clips forward. I just decided to jump into further analysis by other people, mainly some people on France Vancat who discussed the Merkel thing and they actually mentioned some stuff that's even more interesting. I didn't realize that Merkel was raised in East Germany when, in and around the time that Pouin was the KGB. He was in the KGB in East Germany. I'm sorry, East Germany. She was in East Germany, he was in East Germany and they both speak Russian and German. I didn't know he spoke German. He speaks fluent German. And he speaks to her in German, which is, I'm sure, unnerving to her.

1:07:36 And she speaks good Russian apparently because she learned it in East Germany and she studied in Moscow. So she's, you know, who knows what's going on with her. So that's discussed in great detail in clip part, Merkel part one. Across live now to our correspondent Damian McGuinness who's in Berlin. Okay, stop. I think my summary was fine. This guy's boring. So let's go to Merkel part two and this is the kicker to me. This is what says to me Once this is another revelation, I mean it makes nothing but sense there is not going to be any sort of sanctions now Bullcrap Merkel has said that she firmly opposes sanctions would Germany go so far as to block them outright

1:08:20 Well, the European Union can't really impose economic sanctions without Germany's say-so. And the problem is that Germany would suffer probably more than Russia from sanctions between Russia and the EU because Germany is one of Russia's most important trading partners. 300,000 jobs depend on trade between German jobs depend on trade between Germany and Russia. A third of Germany's energy supplies come from Russia. So the German economy would really suffer from a break in economic ties between Russia and the EU. So this is something that Berlin is keen to avoid at all costs.

1:08:57 This is why the German Vice-Chancellor, Sigmar Gabriel, is today in Moscow for talks, because for Germany the only solution really is a diplomatic peaceful one, certainly not a conflict, but also certainly not economic sanctions. I learned a new term in this regard and I agree that there's another piece to this. We've always been talking about the petrodollar. There is a term which I learned which is the gas euro. And there's another term called the gas euro recycle. And this is how it works with... so I believe Germany takes, what is it, was he saying 25 or 30 percent of all of Russia's gas export.

1:09:41 and that those, they pay for it in euros, those then go to Russia who subsequently buy German goods and services. In fact if you look at the trade balance, Germany has a huge surplus, like a 2 billion euro surplus with Russia. So these two are linked inextricably, you cannot unlink this. It would, it would, it would, and I disagree a little bit with what I heard here, it would, it would hurt Russia as much as it would hurt Germany. Because it's, it's a cycle. The Euros, they come into Russia and the Euros go right back into Germany. And I think that may actually be part of this. I've, the way I see it is maybe, maybe we've been looking at it the wrong way, that this is a way to eventually hurt the Euro somehow.

1:10:31 to knock the euro down a couple of pegs. We're not going to get anywhere. This is Obama's pipe dream and now we're having meetings when, as they mentioned, the German vice chancellor is in Moscow while we're in Paris with the UK and some Ukrainian guy and we're trying to scheme against the Russians. This is not gonna fly. No, we're gonna be hung out to dry on this deal because it's been poorly played But also if you look at the UK for instance if you go to London Hey, there's entire neighborhoods that are Russian. And I'm talking the richest, richest neighborhoods. All the money is there. They're not going to all of a sudden say, oh, you can't come to the UK. You can't go visit your kids who are in our schools. You can't get your money. That's not going to happen. Never. No, no. This is some kind of bull crap mongering that I think Obama is just, or the administration is just flailing around

1:11:35 while the real work is already being done. Putsch loop with these old-fashioned bones. Yeah, the neocons. Yeah, but with the exact the exact same people who took us into Iraq right the Essentially flaying in the way. He doesn't know what the heck's going on and he's got no advisors apparently No, they can tell him anything and he's got Valerie Jarrett. Yeah, he doesn't know what's going on. Oh So I think this is going to be a huge embarrassment for the country if this continues, if he doesn't find his way out of this. Because he's been shaking, oh you know we're going to do this, we're going to stop passports, no more visas, we're going to do sanctions, we're going to freeze bank accounts. He's not doing anything. Nothing of the kind. Nothing. Nothing of the kind will happen. And now in eastern Ukraine, the Chinese based academy mercenaries are showing up.

1:12:45 Did you see this this YouTube video that's been circling around? No. You got to love the internet because you know the guys in Ukraine, they're still a little behind but you see these these fully decked out I mean like the guys you'd see walking around Iraq. I mean they've got full-on battle gear, the helmets on, they got all that you know not just some dudes walking around with a uniform. They got the pouches, they got everything and the Ukrainians are shouting, Blackwater, Blackwater, Blackwater's here! Oh yeah, no I saw this. Blackwater! Blackwater! Hell yeah! Gotta love the internet. Oh, Blackwater! And Donneth. Well I have a kind of a, if you're gonna do the humor, I got a kind of a counter clip to this which is another humorous clip.

1:13:37 We have a lot of correspondents that have sent us information and most of Ukraine they speak Russian, it's just really the national language. The Ukrainian language is kind of like the Welsh language. They speak it a little bit in Wales but it's not an important language by any means. So everybody speaks Russian and this just kind of complicates matters, especially when you don't understand any of it. And if you want to hear a bunch of boneheads, you have to play this. This is just a little short snippet of people saying every agreeing with saying the wrong thing and then agreeing with the correction and all the rest of this is the McLaughlin group. My favorite. Yes. Okay. We straight in.

1:14:20 They used to have but I think going forward John people talk about he's not I don't believe he's going to go into eastern Ukraine or Lithuania Latvia or Estonia if he did in the latter three he's Ukraine is Russian-speaking it had been part of Russia until 1954 I saw this episode on Crimea is 60% Russian speaking. The rest of the country speaks Ukrainian. And they don't understand. Correct. The country speaks Ukrainian. And a lot of Ukrainians hate the Russians. They hate you, why? And Khrushchev gave Ukraine... No, gave Crimea, not Ukraine. Gave Crimea back to Russia. That's right. What? Back to Ukraine. Ukraine, Russia, Ukraine, whatever. That's right.

1:15:10 I saw this. I had to turn it off. It's very nuanced bunch of crap. It's astonishing to me. I'm worried though. I am worried about one thing. Have you read the big news? Jabronski? Zabrinski. Zabrinski, Mika's dad. Have you read his The Grand Chess Game? Yeah. Okay. This is pretty much what he is always pushing for. is for balkanization, splitting things up, and by the way, he's showing up on interviews more and more now, which is very worrisome, because that, to me, it's just him, it's gloating, I love it. It's very... It's because he needs to drop in some memes. And what is not being discussed on fantastic programs, there was at least $20 million a year sitting there in the McLaughlin Group,

1:16:04 just of nonsense what is not discussed is that Ukraine not only does it get Does it generate more than half of its electricity from nuclear? No one except this show as far as I've heard yet has even mentioned the fact that Chernobyl is an hour and a half north of Kiev but they have about eight high-end nuclear power stations in Ukraine, the largest in Europe is in Ukraine, the Zaporoizhia, I think it has the Zaporoizhia, it's the fifth largest in the world. You know, if we somehow, and this is what I think Jablonski would want,

1:16:56 is to start up a civil war, which this all I'm hearing is, oh, they hate the Russians, they hate Ukraine, they speak this, they speak that, whatever. You can do it with your Blackwaters. All you need to do is take out one of these plants and you have changed the world forever. And it wouldn't be that hard. You could take a couple of guys on foot to go blow up one of these plants. And then you'd really change everything overnight. I am worried about that. And no one is mentioning it. I don't think they even know that there's nuclear power in Ukraine to that extent. The biggest one in Europe, in Ukraine.

1:17:43 And you get a situation like this? Well, the fact that none of this is, nobody's talking and all the rest and there's some of this bull crap about who speaks what and the Russians, the Ukrainian state, the Russians, even though they're intermarried and half the country's Russian anyway, and all the rest of it, it seems to me that it makes me think that this is some sort of theater and we're not going to see. And if it's not, of course, then there is danger. But I still think it's theater. I don't know if it's designed to embarrass Obama or embarrass the United States in general for us being nosy and busybodies Don't know I just I would like if If everyone on the dais is okay, I'd like to put an entry into the Red Book nuclear disaster in Ukraine Okay, I'd like to put it in I think it's way too easy and you are from the future so you may I am a time traveler

1:18:44 If it is theater and the theater is, and this is indeed what I'm hearing, I agree with you there, the theater of, oh, they don't like each other, they don't speak the same language, they're allied to this, allied to that, then it's very easy to sell to the people a civil war. We have Blackwater in, or whoever the mercenaries are, apparently 300 in Kiev alone, And this by the way, it was pointed out to me that this whole spectacle is very reminiscent of the 2002 coup d'etat attempt in Venezuela. And you can, there's actually a YouTube, it's on YouTube, the documentary, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.

1:19:30 And it was very similar where people started... Jackals. Yeah, they got shot in a big street protest and for about two days, or I think it was exactly 47 hours, Chavez was out. They tried to assassinate him. But they also killed people. They killed people just like... Well, I think that's what's going on with these snipers in the building shooting at both sides of the debate. This is a way to start. You want to foment trouble? Exactly. Shoot both sides. Exactly. And you're the man in the middle. This is the way... This is how it's done. This makes me think that this is like a State Department trying to pull this stunt. Well, hello, noodleman. And you got Newland in there handing out cookies. Noodleman.

1:20:15 And now you got Pataki apologizing for it. By the way, did you see her with her red hair? Yeah. She looked good. Yeah, she has a good look. She has a great look for this spokesholder. She's great for the gig. I don't like it. I don't like it. No, I don't like it either bad scene We're having said we have something to do with it and we should we're just I don't know I think it's we're getting carried away Well, let's just go back and say if it truly is the neocons It truly is the neocons these and and and it is because noodleman is married to the guy whose brother You know

1:20:57 consulted everybody on going into Iraq. Her husband is a member of the Project for a New American Century. They're the ones that said we need a new Pearl Harbor and it came in the form of 9-11 and they had the whole list. They had the the West Clark 7. Let's put the West, let's listen to the West Clark 7 again although I don't think Ukraine is on it. So I came back to see him a few weeks later And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. All right, so that, you know, they did pretty well on that round.

1:21:52 and it's the same people and they said fuck the EU we're gonna do our thing. Exactly how did these people get in on the Obama administration which is supposed to be a... They're not. At best it's neoliberal. No they're not, they are in the State Department. I know but the State Department is still headed by somebody that is picked by Obama. The Yale guy. Kerry's head is so big all these people were inside his head and He got into the State Department, the door opened on the back of his head and all these people walked out. And like Zeus ate his wife. Yeah, he's like the Trojan horse head.

1:22:31 And all of a sudden all these people walked out. So I have a clip, this is Obama making his idle threats saying the Ukraine and then I think it ends with Psaki saying making some commentary. Assets frozen and visas blocked. From across the Atlantic, President Obama sent his strongest message since the start of the crisis, that those bent on destabilizing Ukraine would not go unpunished. I signed the executive order that authorizes sanctions on individuals and entities responsible for violating the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine or for stealing the assets of the Ukrainian people. According to my guidance, the State Department has also put in place restrictions on the travel. Wow! Hello? Did you hear what he just said? According to my guidance, the State Department... He's being guided by the State Department. There's your answer.

1:23:27 Yeah, I guess so. According to my guidance. Good catch. Yeah, I heard that and heard it but I didn't think... Wow! Yeah, well there's your answer. My guidance. Yes. ...for stealing the assets of the Ukrainian people. According to my guidance, the State Department has also put in place restrictions on the travel... My God! I'm sorry. This is shocking to me. Shouldn't the State Department be taking guidance from the President? That's the way it seems to be written in the Constitution. No, he's taking guidance from the State Department, from John Kerry, Skull and Bones, Yaley, and all these guys are Yale, Skull and Bones, neocons. ...restrictions on the travel of certain individuals and officials. The sanctions are targeted at both Russians and Ukrainians responsible for a Russian push into the Crimean Peninsula. But it's not clear whose names appear on Obama's blacklist.

1:24:17 The White House has already said that sanctions won't apply to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Speaking to Voslenka, the US State Department said further sanctions were an option if Russia fails to play ball. What the announcement today did and the President's signing of the executive order is provided the authority to put a range of sanctions in place so whether that's individuals or financial institutions we may start with the list and we can expand that list it can apply more broadly. The US has already said it's pulled out of preparations for the G8 in Sochi and has suspended all talks with Russia concerning trade and investment. It's still determined to seek a diplomatic solution but the message was nonetheless clear

1:25:03 If Russia and its allies take further steps to undermine Ukrainian democracy, there will be further political and economic isolation. I think the reason why people are prone to saying the UK, the Ukraine, I'm sorry, is because of that. UK, United States, you say the United States. You don't say the Great Britain, though. You say the United Kingdom. Yes. And so all of a sudden to have a you country without the in front of it is it's an automatic thing. It's very hard to get that out. However, it's reasonable if you're a professional. I'm looking at you, Liz Wall. Or how about you, Obama, taking guidance from the State Department? I have Samantha Power. I've been watching all of the United Nations Security Council.

1:25:57 Very interesting because I watched some of her but I didn't get any clips. So no, no I got a quick clip from her with broth and Gosh, she's such a nervous wreck. She makes you shake when you watch her and she's a dude She's like a dude. She might be a dude. She might be a dude. She's got her Sam. But when she's, it's kind of interesting because when she's sitting at the desk in the security council and she's leaning, because I guess she has bad eyes and she has to lean down really far to read her paper which has her words on it because I mean if she had to come up with something herself, smoke would come out of her ears probably.

1:26:36 And she has her blouse is always unbuttoned that one button uncomfortably too far. Yeah, she's got a fair her look is not good. And by the way, you know, there is a she she could ever learn this there are bigger, you can make fonts bigger. It's just a thought. Make it like 18 points instead of like 12. And you can read it. And the curry Dvorak consulting group, we're very happy to write some words for you that are bigger in font. So here's Sam Powers. We are pursuing our interests. We see an interest in the Ukrainian context, not only in standing with the Ukrainian people at this incredibly difficult time, but also standing up for the rules of the road in the international order. It would be immensely destabilizing if any sub-region anywhere could just call a referendum with no regard for the view of the broader population, no regard for the view of the legitimate authorities, and simply decide to join a neighboring country. Yeah, I think that's the tell.

1:27:31 That's what she's worried about. And I'm not sure if she's working for state or the administration. I want to think the administration because she's so dumb that everything she's saying that she's probably taking your guidance from somewhere else. Moldova had a referendum. There's lots of countries that are going to start thinking about having a referendum and joining Russia, but more importantly, splitting in two. And that's very dangerous in certain cases like Ukraine. Very, very dangerous. Had well, so do you have anything else I have one more I only have one more clip on this I have one more clip which is in this little off topic, but it's about

1:28:10 I just cracked up listening to this report on the, apparently all these websites are cropping up again if you remember the Georgia situation. Which according to everybody we have to remind everyone despite what the New York Times and CNN and ABC, NBC, CBS, everyone will tell you Georgia was the aggressor in South Ossetia, the Russians retaliated. Russia did not all of a sudden wake up and attack And that is admitted by the international bodies, only the lexicon is exactly the other way around. Well, at the time that the Georgia situation occurred, we had dissected and done some who-isses and looked at some of the websites that were coming out. They were clearly coming from the United States and they were done from state, we believe.

1:29:01 They apparently now we're starting to see websites again. It's very much Hillary Clinton's playbook Yep, cropping up and these sites and the one that really got me there. These are all sites showing that The Russians are lying to their own people about what's going on in Ukraine as if no other country ever kind of bullshits their own population, but that's fine. They're scolding the Russians. I don't get what that's all about except for the fact that one of these websites in particular, the one that's highlighted, is written in Ukrainian and English. How convenient.

1:29:37 So let's play this. You get a little feeling for why I thought this was funny. Which clip am I looking at here? This would be Ukraine news watchdogs. Ukrainian activists have had enough of Russian media circulating what they say is false information about the current crisis in Ukraine. And so they've decided to take action, to take to the web and debunk Moscow's propaganda. A number of sites have emerged online over the past few days aimed at setting the record straight. Platforms like stopfake.org written in Russian and English or fakecontrol.org available in Russian and Ukrainian only have been cataloguing all the articles and other pieces published in Russian media since the start of the crisis.

1:30:19 that contain major factual errors. Two sites with a common objective, prove pro-Kremlin media outlets are intentionally misinforming the public about the situation unfolding in Ukraine. Liga.net is serving a similar purpose. The popular Ukrainian news portal has published a list of myths relating to the Ukraine crisis currently doing the rounds online. It includes one article for example that claims hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are trying to flee the country. The story comes with a photo supposedly illustrating this mass exodus. It was a photo in Poland apparently.

1:30:59 That's like the Newswire 24 thing that came through today. According to the IskraNews.info last night, Ukrainian gold reserves were loaded onto an unidentified transport aircraft in Kiev's Boryspil Airport and it took off immediately. A source in the Ukrainian government confirmed the transfer of the gold reserves of Ukraine to the United States was ordered by the acting Prime Minister. Please. They took all the gold! Please. To the United States of course. Of all places. Yeah, that's where you want to take it. Right. Well that Yats guy is coming to the US, the Prime Minister. Yeah. Have you seen him now with his... The skinny guy with the bald head and the little glasses? Yeah. I know he's like, he doesn't look, he looks like anything. What does he look, he looks like an accountant. Yeah, thank you. Exactly what I was going to say. He looks like a CFO. Yeah, a CFO. Of a startup.

1:31:56 No, no, I think of an older company. Not a startup. He wears a suit and tie. Startups never do that. When they're going to the valley they will. Not anymore. I haven't seen a tie anywhere. The ties are out. It's all over. It's done. Anyway, yeah, the guy, I don't know where they get this guy. We should do a little work on him. We haven't done that. Well, he was actually, I think he was the finance minister. Oh, okay. Well, that's funny enough. Yeah. Yeah. But he's looking way too cocky. You know what I mean? He walking around and whenever he sees, when he saw the no chin monster,

1:32:43 In Brussels you do kiss kiss kiss three kisses yes I'm from Ukraine kiss kiss kiss we kiss you I kissed your chin off sorry how did you know you kissed the chin? How would you know you kissed chin? I got my last clip is Andrea Mitchell's husband now Andrea Mitchell is part of the script part of the game And her husband is Alan Greenspan former central banker of the these United States of America And here's his take from Bloomberg on Ukraine and Putin I'm pessimistic you want to put it that way. I think what will happen eventually is Let's face it Putin Probably almost certainly thinks that one of the great disasters of the century what

1:33:34 Meme alert. What was it? I missed it. We heard this on the last show. I didn't notice it, but now I notice it. It's a meme. What was the meme? That Putin thinks one of the world's great disasters is the breakup of the Soviet Union. Let's face it. Putin probably almost certainly thinks that one of the great disasters of the 20th century was the demise of the Soviet Union. And it's very obvious that he's trying to work its way back and maintain something similar to that sort of institution. And I don't see that we have the capability of preventing it, except

1:34:25 If we can affect their financial system significantly that it creates major deterioration within Russia, in which case there will be a response. But only in that case as far as I'm concerned. Work with me on the economics here for a second, John. So we know the ruble is being rubbilized, although, I mean, the chart looks really bad, but it's, you know, it's small. It's never been great. Okay, so whatever... What happens... If you look at this gas euro recycling business. Well, we'll stop there because we had a clip we didn't play it last show because I just didn't get around to it. But this one guy was asserting that he just asserted that the Russians were doing an end run on the petrodollars in a number of places and a number of ways. And you are the ones that first spotted this with the Libyan situation where Gaddafi was trying to come up with the Afro dollars. The gold dinar.

1:35:26 Yeah, the gold dinar. Right, which was an interesting idea. Anytime anyone pulls a stunt like this about our petrodollars, because we control the world's currency, their standard, we're the ones who have dollars, and that's how we can be in such great debt and the rest of it, because we have this... That's how we do it. That's our system. The way it works. Right. And when somebody screws with us, with that particular element, the one thing that we really own worldwide, And the Russians have been doing that and they do have this backdoor deal with Germany But they were gonna according to this other report. I'm gonna bring it back on the show for Thursday I'll dig it up the guy says that Russia was in the process of setting up shop with this system with this new Didn't he wanted it was like the gas OPEC or something he was it was some other thing and got beaten back but on it I think this is one of these payback deals or we're we're gonna teach him a lesson and

1:36:23 Until he just backs off of this stupid fake, you know, this little currency that he's developed buying and selling his gas We came we saw That's right. That was what happened to Gaddafi and Who else did we kill for that? Well, it wasn't Saddam Hussein talking about trading euros He was killed for before well, we didn't kill him. I We just invaded his country and we got him out of the hole and then someone else hung him. We didn't do that. We're not barbarians like that. We just put it on YouTube. Do you remember that? How cool that was? That to me was the launch of YouTube, man. When that happened. Was YouTube around? Did we see that on YouTube?

1:37:10 Has YouTube been around? I don't know if that was on YouTube. Yes, I'm sure it was. No, but was that the launch? I can't, I'm not so sure. YouTube was already on its way by then. But that was awesome. And it's probably was a double. I'm never convinced that was really close. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's all good. It was great theater. Loved it. So we may be engaged in another one of these little things and so we're gonna stir up trouble until it backs off. But kind of the problem or maybe the benefit, and again this is how I see it, well let me go back to your objection the other day and I'm going to backpedal a little bit for argument's sake. Let's say the very important is Dow Chemical and what's the other guys who make plastic stuff with our gas? DuPont.

1:38:04 And that's essentially manufacturing. Can we just call it manufacturing? These days everything is plastic. Our gas is half the price of manufacturing gas in Germany, as an example, when they make the plastic for their BMWs. Would it not be a double whammy if this gas euro recycling business, if it all slows down because of whatever we do, And it just really hurts Russia, but it also hurts the big manufacturing giant in Europe. And then we can become the new manufacturing guys. Is that possible? Is that even in the realm of possibility? Well, everything is in the realm of possibility.

1:38:53 I don't know that we would want to do that. I think we just want to... I like... I think there's something kind of pure about just selling the raw material at a good price. Right, right. The gas you mean? The gas. Yeah. and the DuPont and maybe DuPont and Dow are just gonna have to pay more and raise prices on the hapless Americans because we're always in the pain for everything anyway. And they can move that stuff into Europe. I don't know. I keep forgetting that our government doesn't care about us either. I keep forgetting that. Yeah, you always have to remember that our government doesn't care at all about the American public. We're just stupid slaves to them. No, we're just dumb slaves to them. Exactly. Yeah. Well, the one thing

1:39:39 I think we can agree on there's not going to be any American-Russian war, but I am seriously worried about someone lighting off some nuclear plant. It's been done before in that region. I'm not saying that was terrorism or anything, but it was pretty bad and it was a weapons plant. It wasn't a power generation reactor, Chernobyl, and it was in the same country. I'm very worried about this happening. Could you imagine what that would do to the gas business? Oh yeah. Wouldn't, I mean that would settle it forever. Those guys shooting at both sides may be hired by T. Boone Pickens for all you know. To go up there and blow up, uh... I mean that's what, uh, what's his name, H. Ross Perot used to have his own army. Oh really? Yeah, he used it to, he used that little army of his of mercenaries to free some of his guys that were held for ransom in some country somewhere. Sent his boys in and they brought them back. Really? That's kind of cool. Yeah, no, I think a lot of these guys have private armies.

1:40:37 It's not talked about much because it's kind of, you know, and I think that's what Blackwater and those guys are really for. They're not really there to work for the US government. No, no, they're just to stir up the crap and blow something up. Well, it depends on who's hiring them, but they could be hired by T. Boone Pickens. I mean, you and I, if we had any budget, we could hire Blackwater to go do stuff. If something ever happens to you or I, the No Agenda Army is going to show up. Like, hey. We're looking for a Curry and DeVore. I mean we have to remember that these guys work on consignment. Not consignment, but they work on contract. Right. You hire them to do something. I mean, first you go in and you have a meeting with them. I'd like to do this actually, just so I can see exactly what the process is.

1:41:21 You would expect you go and have a meeting with him, you tell him what you want to have done. It's like going to an advertising agency. You ask him, you know, you need to get a higher profile. You want to promote this new product and all the rest of it. And then they tell you what they think. And I would assume you do the same thing with Blackwater or any of these groups. There's bunches of them. There's not just Blackwater, there's probably dozens of them. And you go in there and you tell them what you want and they come back with a plan and a fee It's gonna cost you this much and the next thing you know, you've got your boys over there shooting people Now, let me just tie into this as we move forward on the 24th and 25th of March in The Hague Den Haag in the Netherlands get Molo lands the nuclear security summit will be held Everybody will be there including Obama

1:42:09 He actually will be staying on a military ship, I believe in the North Sea. So he won't go to Soshi, but he goes to there. Okay. Now again, the nuclear security summit, which may not be about nuclear bombs per se, What's interesting is the entire Gitmo lowlands has been shut down. There is not only a no-fly zone all over the entire country, but if you have a balloon on a string longer than three feet, you will be arrested. It's nuts. Wow. The cool news is there was a report here, the society service was interviewed

1:43:00 escort company, Society Service, says that they have, it's never been this busy before a summit. Usually there's about six days before a summit, they get all their bookings. Actually no, between two and eight days, but they said we've seen bookings weeks in advance and they have all kinds of non-disclosure forms they have to sign. So business is booming in advance of the new... For the hookers. For the hookers, for the escorts, yes. For the high... High end. The high pay hookers. The high end, yes. So let me just throw this in before you guys continue this. This, since they say it's never been so high, this makes it sound as though these guys are scheming something and they're getting as much as they can from the hookers before they know they may get killed.

1:43:45 Possibly. I mean, if you're like you're going on a suicide mission. I'm going out with a bang. I'm just suggesting the possibility. Well, the society service says they've never seen bookings this far in advance. It's not uncommon to have documents they have to sign, but really it's two to eight days in advance typically. And this is really a big deal. I love the non-disclosures with the hookers. That's great. Yeah, yeah, it is great. While we're on that, I think I caught something which we can also see this unfold. Something very weird happened here in the United States and this had to do not so much with the actual act itself, which was this guy who was acquitted initially, well acquitted because the law didn't adhere for it, of taking upskirt photos of women on the train.

1:44:46 And within three days there was a law on the books which forbade this in the, I believe, in the state of Massachusetts. And I was kind of wondering, and besides, it's been going on forever. You know, there's entire websites devoted to upskirts. Like, oh, all of a sudden people are like, really? They're using smartphones for upskirts? So I had to figure out what was going on and I think that from this report which includes Oprah's girlfriend on CBS there with Charlie Rose, I think I know what's happening.

1:45:22 This morning, lawmakers in Massachusetts are looking for their own solution after the state's highest court caused outrage. The justices ruled unanimously yesterday that a man accused of taking pictures underneath a woman's skirt on a commuter train did not, I repeat, not break the law. The practice is known as upskirting. CBS News legal analyst Ricky Kleeman is a Massachusetts trial attorney. Good morning. Good morning. OK, how is this not illegal? Well, it's dreadful. It's creepy. It's something that none of us want to happen to ourselves or to others. But if you look at the language of the law... Now listen very carefully what is happening here. In Massachusetts...

1:46:06 It's not illegal. Why not? Well, the why not is because the way the legislature had drafted this law says that a woman has to be nude. She's talking about the peeping Tom law or partially nude and that she has to be in a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy. The law would The law was about peeping toms. You're in your bedroom, you're in your bathroom, you're in the locker room at the gym. That was who the law was designed to protect and to criminalize. That's not what this law says about keeping up with the times. Okay, so far, we're sucked in, it's got sex in there, everyone knows about upskirts.

1:46:44 Of course we want it to happen to someone else. It's great. It's hilarious. It's really funny. I bet chicks love watching looking at upskirts too. Oh look at this. Oh she has no underwear on. Oh look at the stupid underwear she's wearing. But it's not about the upskirt at all. It's about the process of and the reconfiguring of old laws i.e. the Constitution. We're not dealing with technology. Does that sound familiar? We're not dealing with technology? Does it ever frustrate you that the letter of the law does not have common sense? Oh, common sense is it starting to catch on? This is a prelude to, well, you know, we've updated laws for upskirts. We should be able to update laws for right to bear arms.

1:47:32 and we're not talking about muskets anymore. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Essentially, upskirts, if you take it to the extreme, is free speech. Don't make that argument yet. I want, I'm with you. I just want, I want you to hear how they hammer on this. This is going to be used to change constant, to change interpretation of laws already on the books Once upon a time and long ago far far away land far far away away like you know when George Washington was running around. Hold on a second, didn't we have film cameras that could do the same thing since like 1900? Yeah. I mean I think they were first brownie you know. It's... Did have common sense. But I'm talking about for now. Well for now. It does not. It doesn't because of course cell phones are ubiquitous.

1:48:24 And I mean, we know I'm someone who goes up to Boston, Massachusetts on a regular basis. I'm not wearing this dress on the subway, on the MTA until this law is changed. So there will be a rush to the legislature to say, come on, come with the times, get it right. Come with the times, get it right, land, land far away. Watch, you watch. And of course, this was changed in like, what, in four days? They now have an upskirt law. You'd think they'd have better things to do with their time. Well, I think that this is just a red herring, John. Well, you might be right. But I also agree with you, it is totally free speech. Yeah. Ladies, you know, on the upskirt thing, be careful. Or wear pants. Another tip from the No Agenda Show. Or wear an advertisement under there. Ha ha, there you go. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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2:02:51 Who's? Willow, my sister Willow. Oh, hi Willow. Yeah, who by the way her husband Alessandro knows the he grew up with the new Prime Minister of Italy. Oh from the same town. Nice. Yeah apparently it's um... Can we get a tour of the Parliament? You know that's not a bad idea but I that's why I don't want to say everything she told me but we got our eye on him. Let's put it that way. Unelected prime minister, I might add. He was, let's put it this way. He was kind of one of those kids, I think who had the big key chain in high school. Yeah. You know what I mean? I know those guys. Look at all the keys I've got in my key chain. A lot of keys. You know. I'm a skilled person that the keys on some sort of a spring loaded. Yeah. And he snap it, snap it back all day long. Like, yeah, I maybe it was a hall monitor, I think.

2:03:52 I want to be careful because I don't want to blow our chances of getting the tour of the Parliament. So I'm going to be very safe. All right. I do want you to grab your blade there, John, if you could pull that out. You got it? Yeah, hang on. Oh, very good. Paul Cohen, step forward, my friend. Wow. It's been a couple of episodes. We're very happy to have you here. on another night. Thank you very much for your courage and your support of the best podcast in the university. In the amount of $1,000 or more we hereby pronounce the circle night of the Noah Jett Roundtable. Come on over for your bad science and perky rests, your Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, your hookers and blow, your rent boys and chardonnay, your hot pants and booze, your wenches and beer, ruban, sumac, rose, vodka, vanilla bong hits and bourbon or mutton and mead.

2:04:38 and go to noageneration.com slash rings so Eric the shill can hook you up and get your ring out to you along with your sealing wax and your official certificate and while you're there everybody else can go to noageneration.com and look at some of the fine products Eric is he's got all business going on there I haven't seen any money from Eric recently yeah you're not gonna see it well wait a minute he's just we're just promoting and he just takes it Maybe he should give us something. Maybe he hasn't sold many bags. I think you took half of them by accident. You have like a huge, you have like a bin of them. Not anymore. What happened to them? Well, Mickey has a number that she's, she's liking them. She's got them everywhere in the car, you know, in the, in the pantry, in the closet. It's a gorgeous bag. It is a good bag. And then the 33 thing, it's just pretty. And she gives a nice logo and the rest she's given away. Yeah. She's like, and I'm like, Oh, shall I give these guys some bags? No.

2:05:34 I've been giving everybody a bag. That was the original idea. Yeah, that's right. Second half of the show, I wanted to address something that has cropped up recently and it's... I think we should do it because, you know, I was involved with kind of that podcasting thing in the very beginning. And I've invented the podcast. Yeah. Oh, they want it tracked down by Leah, the investigative reporter. You know, that woman who busted this, this you're talking about Bitcoin, right? You can go there. No, that's not what I'm going to do. No. Oh, because I thought you were going to go there because you're talking about origins. No, I was going to talk about another podcast actually. Oh, this is caught me off. Okay. Well, yes. And it won't catch you off guard. Um, the, uh,

2:06:31 Patent troll defense fund. I'm getting a lot of emails about this Oh, yeah, and I do I do need to talk about this because I think I'm uniquely qualified to talk about this I think so too and no one else can talk about this the way I can talk about it This is right. You're the you're the pot father correct? So what has happened is there is a fund anything drive which has been set up by Adam Carolla who arguably has one of the most downloaded podcasts in the universe. It's not the best podcast in the universe but he's always number one on iTunes. I've been on his show. I don't think he likes me. I don't know why. I don't think he likes anybody. That's possible.

2:07:16 And so they have a little video. What's happening is people are emailing me and saying, hey, you on board with this? And I have to send back a no, I'm not. And I am tired of explaining why. So I want to do that on the show with a little bit of explanation. Because I I don't like what is happening. There's misnomers. There's misinformation going on here and at first I will play The video that Adam Carolla has put out along on his fund anything a Donald Trump property fund anything website Which I think they've already raised $100,000. They're looking for a million dollars to give to lawyers essentially to to fund a lawsuit hi

2:07:58 Hi, I'm small business owner Adam Carolla. By the way, that's very funny. That's a good way to start. I'm standing in my studio. I built this studio. Actually, we all kind of built this studio because you guys supported me and my podcast and we started a nice small business with a handful of friendly employees who aim to please. Unfortunately, they're guys called patent trolls. What do they do? Honestly, I still don't know. They buy up patents and then they use them to get money out of businesses. And in this case, a podcast, a small podcast. Well, normally people settle up with these guys because it's so expensive to fight these guys in court. Well, guess what? We're going to circle the wagons, band together and come out throwing punches. Here's my plan.

2:08:52 We all band together all the podcasts because remember if I go down well Then your favorite podcast is going down next and we're gonna all fall like dominoes But if we all unify and stand and fight together we can beat the trolls, but we can't do it alone We need your support go to fund anything calm forward slash patent troll. Let's smash the trolls Very nice with the patriotic music and everything. Now I am the first guy who is against the man and wants to bring everything and everybody down, but I do like information to be correct. And it really bothers me because I know Adam Karolik, he can't be dumb.

2:09:37 You know, and I see like he says he doesn't understand what's going on. First of all, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation also approached me about this, calling this lawsuit a patent troll lawsuit. I'm sorry, it is not a patent troll lawsuit. There's a podcast patent that was awarded to a company called Personal Audio and they have not sold their patent to a third party. They have not leased it out. They are trying to protect their patent and get money for it. Now, this does not mean I agree that they should have the so-called podcast patent, but the system

2:10:24 works this way. No one was up in arms about the one-click patent from Amazon. In fact, everybody was all on board with it and lots of companies paid for that to be able to do one-click. It's a process patent. It's crazy. The patent system is out of control but it is not a patent troll. It is not. What happened is they patented a process of distributing episodic content online in a playlist and automatic notification system. Apple actually already paid them and continues to pay them a licensing fee. They went to court over playlisting and Apple could not beat them. Apple

2:11:14 As a part of that playlist patent, they also have this, I think it's called the 504, the 502 patent. And it's been awarded. Now there's ways to get rid, you know, to challenge the patent, but what is being sold to people and the money that is being raised, which I don't even think is necessary, And I think that the Adam Carolla podcast empire has already changed their website so they are no longer in breach of any of said patents. I don't see episodic players anymore, which is essentially what it is. Any company that has done that in the past received a letter, including I believe the Twit network, Leo has talked about that, and the Discovery Network, as well as Apple.

2:12:00 And Apple has already agreed to be paying a fee for the way that they present podcasts in episodic format. Why have we never received any threatening letter? Not because they don't want to go after us. In fact, I think we'd be a perfect target because we can't afford any kind of legal help. Not because we're not popular. I think we're popular. I mean, let's face it, we are the best podcast in the universe. But because we've never had a display on our web page of episodic automatic notification playlist of our shows. No, and when one show stops playing, if you do it on the website, it doesn't go to the next show. Exactly. Now that's not by design, it's because of laziness.

2:12:47 Laziness pays off. We've got better things to do than worry about that sort of thing. We are trying to get information on the show. That's where our time is spent. But when you listen to, now here's Adam Krohler with Dr. Drew, they're back together doing a show. I get a little angry about this because lots of well-minded people are like, yeah, let's go get the patent trolls. If you want to give your money to lawyers, And I don't think anything has to be fought here. I think what they've done, they could just stop presenting it the way they want. If you, if the Electronic Frontier Foundation wants to go fight them over this patent, I'm all for that.

2:13:25 And I think that there's a process for that, and it's an expensive process. But I'm not going to promote or join up with anyone who says, if we don't do this, all podcasts and YouTube are going down. That's what's being said here. Dot com forward slash patent troll trying to beat back these patent trolls. Basically, it's like this. There's two people doing work here, me and the guy who invented the patent. If you think about it, all you've done is got in between the two of us and decided you're going to get rich. And again, this is a lie. There is no patents company. There's a lawyer, but no patent troll in between. Personal Audio is trying to protect its patents. So it's just a lie. I believe a cheap marketing ploy and I don't like it. I don't want the truth about what podcasting patents are or not.

2:14:16 not some bull crap story. What if we could ever invent a law that would charge attorneys for whatever lost economic growth or economic productivity is incurred from their shitty shitty interventions? Yeah, that's there's there's Dr. Drew, moron. No, we... You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we... I have just put that kind of law in place. I have countless hours tied up into fighting this litigation. So what we're doing is we're standing and fighting and we're uniting the podcast community. Okay, I have not gotten any call from anybody from the podcast community. Have you gotten any call? Like, hello? Hello, podcast community calling here. No, no, there's been no uniting of the podcast community. I hate that by the way.

2:15:08 It's like saying the gay community, please. And I'm going to beat these guys and when I beat these guys then we'll all beat these guys because they go after one podcast and we beat them. That'll be that. We lose, they go after the rest. This is not true. What he's making it sound like is like podcasting itself, the making a show somehow is being, is threatened by trolls. It's not true. That's how it goes. And again, you want to be part of the good fight, you go to fundanything.com. And by the way, their patent is... Sorry. Forward slash patent trouble. Just go to fundanything. You'll see it there. But their patent, it's not like they invented podcasting. Well, actually, they patented a process which was awarded by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Yeah. It is still unclear to me what patent they hold and how it

2:16:04 pertains to us. Yeah, I think if you're going to... What? If you're going to solicit a million dollars from people, you might want to know what it's about. That's ridiculous. I don't know what it's about but give me money. Yeah, I'm really not liking this. Yeah, it's something obscure. It's like a sequencer. No, it's not obscure. It's like a playlist and you can read it in the document. It's not that hard to understand. It's not. Why don't we just get, maybe it's more effective. What if you were just to hire a brainiac to just invent an alternative? Let's all switch over to that. Here's a guy who understands how patents work, huh?

2:16:44 Jeez, Dr. Drew, stick to giving people medication. Would that be interesting? And getting paid for it, I'm sorry. I think there's still go, you had been using... Chris Maxapata may know more than me, but... Audio episodes, or audio in an episodic order, kind of like a playlist. Yes, thank you. That's like some guy who's the engineer, he understands. He understands. Adam Carolla asking you for your money does not. And that's how podcasts are released. Why don't we get somebody else to invent a similar sequencer? Oh, yeah, very Dr. Drew Wow, you go to college with that brain and just use theirs basically what they're saying is well No, they're saying we have a patent on that. No, I understand the technology rip that off. They can use it. You look at it in a wider standpoint They're saying that iTunes is illegal

2:17:31 Oh yeah, no, there's no... They're not saying it's illegal, they're saying that they need to pay a fee for their license and iTunes has already done that for playlisting and they will do it for podcasts as well. To me, if we lose everything on iTunes and everything on YouTube, essentially it's just gonna have to go away. Okay, see this is what I mean, John. That's bullshit! Yeah, it's bullshit. It's bullshit. Yeah, I just, I just, it needs to be said because everybody is all on board. Save the podcast. I haven't gotten a letter. Well, you know, if the guy wants, this is the way some people operate. I mean, you might as well be listening to the guy who sells seeds. You know, they're making them making a lot out of nothing and trying to scare the place. The scare tactic. Oh, you're going to lose the greatest podcast ever. This our show. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose you could. And then you.

2:18:33 Just seems fishy. I got one for you. Yeah, so this guy there's a guy on MSNBC and as much as I hate going over there, but Wow Chris Hayes is the protege of Rachel Maddow I think that you've never seen them in the same picture at the same time No, and he used to substitute host for her the difference is she's a fast talker. He's a really fast talker and so that I think people who are inclined to be left wingers or libs as the right guys like to call them, which I don't like the term. If you talk fast that means you're smart.

2:19:13 I'm not sure, but he talks fast to pretend he's smart and he just glosses stuff over. Here he is talking where he mentions Common Core. Oh boy. Discusses it in a generality. He's got two people that he's talking to, the first two, these two guys that are just generalizing about how great it would be if everything was a charter school and all this. And there's this woman and you'll hear the female voice and they're going, hmm, every so often. And she's a teacher and she has questions about Common Core being worth a crap and she doesn't really want to confront Chris because he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's just glosses everything over as a political deal. But it's just fun to listen to this clip.

2:19:55 kids are going to be assessed on what they've actually learned. Now David Coleman, who played a role in shaping those Common Core standards and is president of the College Board, is the person actually working on both ends of this. Yeah, so David, give me a moment just so people are clear about the Common Core thing that's happening, right? Some sort of a substantive body of knowledge that American school children across the country should know is what the Common Core is, right? And well, that's the idea, right? I mean, the substantive body of knowledge is important. And the SAT test, which has always been prayed as an aptitude test, your abilities as opposed to knowledge, is now being designed to more mirror some kind of body of knowledge. What do you think about that? About the Common Core? Well, the mirroring between the two.

2:20:35 You know, I think it's sort of a backdoor way of sort of having, you know, an external control mechanism over our schools. I mean, if you align the SAT to Common Core, then you're going to force high schools to really adhere to the Common Core. It's like backdoor curricular power, right? If the SAT says you have to know this thing, it doesn't matter what your local school district or anyone else decides, you're going to have to teach it. And it's very interesting timing as parents and teachers across the country are standing up to Common Core. There is a fascinating trans-ideological partner... the kind of coalition building against the Common Core, which is kind of another thing to get into. The sort of left-right thing that's happening. It's kind of what Grant Wewell, Dot Raff does. You gotta be talking about... First you gotta be talking about Common Core and then we... and whenever someone's almost gonna interrupt you... He's horrible. Yeah, hold on. Where two plus three is approximately four in the Common Core.

2:21:31 I forgot to play the jingle man. Hey, I got a good Fukushima story here. Wait, wait, wait, can I just stay with Common Core for one sec? Oh sure, I love Common Core. I have heard that about you. As I mentioned earlier in the podcast, I watched the first episode of Chicagoland. Yeah, I did too. Yeah. And I did not realize that this is all from a year ago. I thought it was kind of like the Kardashians where they'd be a couple weeks behind. You know, not that bad. Not like a year. It's old. And so and I immediately went and did the research. I felt a little dumb that I hadn't figured this out earlier.

2:22:11 So this first episode was all about closing public schools and instead of 55 he wound up closing 50 and since that time Guess how many charter schools have been opened in Chicago? I don't know, 50? Yes! Yes! Exactly! So the whole thing about, oh, you know, we need to consolidate, it was bull crap. It was all to get... and there was one line, and I didn't clip it, there was one line where someone said, this whole thing about closing the public schools is just to open up new schools with rich white people's names on them. Like, you know, Bill Gates School. And there was another line in there

2:22:50 I had to look it up, I couldn't believe my ears, where Rahm Emanuel says, you know, we have, how many Gates Scholars do we have? I'm like Gates, like Rhodes Scholars? But it's Gates Scholars, literally Bill and Melinda Gates scholarships. The Gates Scholars. Gates Millennium Scholars, yeah. Good one, Bill. Yeah. So I don't know what the point is of this other than it is really meant to polish Rahm Emanuel, make him look like some super guy. But is he running for president? What is he? What is the point? He's gonna run for state senator or something. Yeah, he's gonna run for something big. And I and Miss Mickey was watching with me and I don't think she was around when we started the first conversation. Well, she was around but when we started the first conversations about Emmanuel, about the finger and you and I know exactly what the fingers about.

2:23:44 But in this first episode of Chicagoland, he's telling like some, you know, some seven-year-olds or eight-year-olds, say, hey, you know, I was, you know, someone said be careful, you shouldn't be, you know, doing that and I wasn't careful and then, you know, my finger, I lost my finger. And Mickey looks at me, he says, that wasn't a good story, that sounds like it's a mob thing. I'm like, yes, that's what they do. They chop off your finger if you don't play nice. And he could not tell the pure story about what happened to half of his finger being chopped off. He did not have an actual story. He didn't say, I was using a saw. Yeah, a finger. Uh-huh. Okay. No, I guess you didn't like the whole thing at all. About what? The show? Yeah, Emanuel.

2:24:32 No, I didn't like, you know, the show I didn't like the show. I found it to be a piece of propaganda and I couldn't even watch the whole thing so you got more out of it than I did. I will continue to watch this if only to see if Robert Redford puts some chapstick on. So this is an interesting, I got a couple interesting stories here. This is what people do in their spare time because it's such a horrible situation. It has to be corrected. It's just, it's unbelievable to me that this is even taking place. Now this clip is the Google Doodle controversy, part one. Oh man, I have not heard of this. According to a report by American activist movement Spark, which works to improve women's representation in the media, Google Doodles, which are the drawings, animations or sometimes quirky games that replace the Google logo to celebrate holidays, anniversaries and the lives of historical figures, under-represent women and favor white men.

2:25:34 As this infographic illustrates, out of the 445 doodles published between 2010 and 2013, over 80% were honoring men, with just one in five commemorating a woman. The document also shows us that non-white people are somewhat ignored, and account for less than 10% of Google's online tributes. The study comes with a petition urging the American firm to work to fix the imbalance in the choice of doodles. Okay, if I understand properly... Fix the imbalance in the choice of doodles. The Google doodles are... There's inequality in the doodles. It's doodle inequality. Yeah. Really? It must be stopped. Someone has to stop the Google doodles.

2:26:24 So they do a follow-up and then part two talks about a couple of people they're recommending, especially, you know, because that way they get a couple women in there. And this is the best they can come up with. Ideas from Google users, the team at Spark have posted a list of suggestions on their Tumblr blog. It includes Josephine Baker, for example, and Indian-American astronaut Kalpana Chawla. The organization says these are just some of the many women who, given their accomplishments, deserve to be recognized in a Google Doodle. Now wait a minute, Josephine Baker, a jazz dancer, so important to the history of civilization, they need to have her. How about Ma Baker? That would be cool. And then, yeah, and then Chola, just one of many astronauts who just so, just coincidentally is a woman and a, what has she done that's so famous? Just by getting the job, she should be on a Google Doodle? Are you kidding me? Why not put Sandra Bullock on there?

2:27:21 What exactly all the actresses yeah, but everything? Yeah, hey hey now you're talking some sense. Why is Judy Garland? That's right? Oh? Oh, I just got another rainbow thing all right. Well. It's fun I thought that was the stupidest thing I've ever heard people obsessing over the idiocy of Google doodles Wow okay, let's go to this one This would now tell me what you find wrong with this report. This is they do one of the anniversaries There's a big protest about the Fukushima You know we got to keep this in the news somehow since they can't seem I had a actually a clip from a couple of shows ago where they're not they actually the fish that are being in the area aren't even getting that radioactive Become a huge problem publicity wise it's a problem the fish are not radioactive enough yeah

2:28:12 And so now here's the Fukushima report on our local news network. The area anti-nuclear activists today marked the upcoming three-year anniversary of the earthquake and tsunami that led to that disastrous meltdown at the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan. Demonstrators said they were honoring the 16,000 people who died in the 2011 quake and tsunami and standing in solidarity with those forced from their homes because of radiation. On March 11, 2001, tsunami damaged the Fukushima plant and led to a meltdown in three of the plant's six nuclear reactors. Following the meltdown, 160,000 people were forced to flee their homes. About 50,000 people may never be allowed to return. This is very interesting. They're returning now.

2:29:02 They're returning as we speak. but to slip in out of the blue and you didn't even notice it because you have to... What I heard is the 11,000 people died... Tsunami. Tsunami. And they said tsunami. So they slipped in the tsunami death along with this whole report about Fukushima. That's how I heard it. Yeah? Well, how about this for an idea? It's 1600, not 16,000! Wow. Good catch. Damn, I didn't know that.

2:29:53 I didn't, I, see, even I wouldn't have believed it. This is the problem we have. So the, this was a level five event. There's only been two level five events that I know of with reactors. One is this one, Fukushima, and the other one was Chernobyl. And I can't believe that John Kerry even goes to Kiev. Which is the official pronunciation of Kiev is keys if you're an elitist I can't believe you know the global warming thing there's all these people there could you how come the same people that are all in with global warming and bitch about you know everyone else being science deniers are all denying they're the deniers about nuclear power the same exact people because the starfish will die

2:30:47 I'm glad you brought that up. Here is IPCC, no, the United Nations Chief Warmist, Cristiana Figueres. She's in charge of the all things UN. She's really the spokeshole for climate change. And she has a new meme for us as she talks about what is happening in the world. There's no doubt that um... No doubt. ...experiencing these weather events which I call experiential evidence. I love it. Experiential evidence.

2:31:33 climate change does raise the issue to the highest political levels. And it does something else, which I think is actually, it's unfortunate that we have to have these weather events, but there is a silver lining, if you wish, because these weather events, what they remind us is that solving climate change, addressing climate change in a timely way is not a partisan issue. It's not like these weather events affect those who are on the left of the political scale or those who are on the right. It doesn't matter where you are in the politics, national or internationally, you get the same impact. The longer we wait to have policy that positively affects the...

2:32:17 trajectory of emissions, the more of these events we're going to have. Ah, more events, experiential evidence. We're gonna have more weather, that's what she's saying. Ladies and gentlemen, the weather report is more weather is on the way. Yeah, that's all good. The only reason we're having more weather is because of climate change. That's right. And it's because we have too much CO2. So I didn't realize this, I'm watching this show called Echo Company. And you can play the opening to the show and get an idea what it's... It's one of the kids shows that plays on Saturday morning to brainwash the kids. And you get... This is what you end up hearing at the... Coming up next on Ego Company... A new superhero! It's the Green Cape Crusader, Mr. Ego! This right here is my badge. He's saving the planet one rap verse at a time. Irreusable!

2:33:07 My mission as Mr. Eco is to turn everybody into eco heroes because if they're living sustainably and doing the things that I talk about in my rap songs, then they're all superheroes working to save the planet. We catch up with the guy who's bringing his green message to kids with music. And this group of young activists has it all covered. I just became involved with this organization that was in my community called Kids Against Pollution. I started a non-profit organization called Kids vs. Global Warming. They're changing the world around them, one idea at a time. Plus, plugging We're running out of oil and we have to use alternate energy sources. So I think it's really great to use electricity instead of gas. We catch a ride with the founder of the Green New Movement to find out what's driving her mission. Those stories and more coming up on Eco Company. I'm getting a vasectomy. I can't have any kids anymore. This is no good. By the way, in the chat room, nuclear waste

2:34:09 Yes, that is 1970s technology, breeder reactors, Thorium, there's so many new technologies, it's insane. But no, let's not investigate that, let's just yell. Let's just yell at everybody. And don't worry, because once they light off another one of those things in Ukraine, you're going to love it. Enjoy your solar energy. I enjoy it. And your gas, your low carbon gas. So the kid that was listed there as the kid against global warming, kids against global warming, because you know it's so important for the kids, this is the clip of him further deeper into this show and this is the Al Gore clip and tell me you didn't knew about this.

2:35:00 It's yeah. Next up, meet Alec Lourdes, high school student and Climate Project presenter. And we'll say this, he's one busy guy. I've spent the last three years traveling around the country giving presentations about climate change to schools and different environmental events and really representing the youth when it comes to climate change. Lourdes was just 15 when he signed up to be trained by the Climate Project and Vice President Al Gore. But that's not even the start of it. As an eighth grader, he founded Kids vs. Global Warming to draw attention to climate change and things like sea level rise. Anything we can do to lower our carbon footprint will really make a huge difference and living our lives in a way that we consider how all of our actions impact future generations and nature and everyone to come. It's a message he plans to continue taking on the road.

2:35:53 Alright, so this kid, who apparently is in high school but doesn't go to school, he just travels around giving speeches to other high school kids, was trained at the climate project when he was 15? What is this, a brainwashing camp? Well, apparently all of this is one big brainwashing exercise. Well, there's that. I didn't know that Al Gore ran a concentration camp of climate propaganda. Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure he does. I was taken aback by that personally. If you want to learn more about, from some nuclear dudes, HiroshimaSyndrome.com. You can also say Hiroshima, but HiroshimaSyndrome.com, there's daily

2:36:42 updates on Fukushima and some really good deep detailed background from scientists. You might learn something. Gee, would it kill you to learn something? Teach your kid, make your kid read this. And give your kid a prize after they've read something. Give them the big red fire engine or something because they're being indoctrinated with very, very, very, very dangerous information because it's not healthy this. This is just not healthy. and it's not a waste. Yeah, it's another reason not to be in the chat room. Well, I gotta keep my eye on it. Yeah, I'm glad you do. I did want to read a funny little list that the the Chiners put out their state council. The State Council Information Office of the People's Republic of China published a report titled Human Rights Record of the United States in 2013.

2:37:39 And since Glenn Greenwald will be speaking at a Human Rights Now conference. Yeah, from Skype. Yeah, but it's, you know, he's speaking it, of all people, Glenn Greenwald don't rap, he should know that Amnesty International's human, Amnesty International is run by the United States State Department, Mr. Greenwald. Why are you in bed with them? Are these not the people, are you not against them? Are you not trying to fight them? So I find that weird. So anyway, the Chinese, not to be outdone, have their own little propaganda arm. But I thought we'd just run down this first little page of their view of the United States and the world's so-called world judge of human rights.

2:38:28 Here is what they have written down and summed up the United States record on human rights in 2013. Do you got a pen? John, you want to write this down? I'm writing this down, Adam. In 2013, 137 people died in 30 mass killings which caused four or more deaths each in the United States shooting rampage in the headquarters of Naval SEALs command center in Washington DC. 12 people alone were left dead. The US engaged in a tapping program codenamed PRISM, exercising long-term and vast surveillance both at home and abroad. The program is a blatant violation of international law and seriously infringes on human rights. The use of solitary confinement is prevalent in the US. About 80,000 US prisoners are in solitary confinement in the country. Some have even been held in solitary confinement for over 40, that's four zero years. Yeah, that number may be low too.

2:39:25 Sorry, Chinas. That's a low... you're low-balling us. The U.S. still faces grave employment situations with its unemployment rate remaining high. Rates of unemployment for the lowest income families have topped 21%. The homeless population in the United States has been swelling, climbed to 16% from 2011 to 2013. That may also be on the low end, actually. They're low-balling us everywhere. There are a large amount of child laborers in the agricultural sector in the US and their physical and mental health has been seriously harmed. Is this true? Well, this may be a bit of an exaggeration at some level because it's okay to have families, if it's like a family farm and the kids do some work, that's counted as child labor. Okay, alright.

2:40:15 Frequent drone strikes by the United States and countries including Pakistan and Yemen have caused heavy civilian casualties. The US has carried out 376 drone strikes in Pakistan since 2004, causing deaths of up to 926 civilians. Again, I think you'd be lowballing us, China. And the US remains a country which has not ratified or participated in a series of core UN conventions on human rights such as the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, and the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. Man, we are nasty buggers!

2:41:00 So the next time someone says, hey let's go invade that country because, human rights, refer to this document. I'm surprised they didn't go into the total number of prisoners and some of the history. They have that well, yeah it's 30 pages. I'm just giving you the highlight. Just giving you the top line page there. Top line only. Well we do good work around the world. the way I see it. And I think these kinds of reports just reflect negatively on the country. In fact, let's take a look at Libya and listen to the Libya update so we know what we've accomplished. Two and a half years after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi, Libya is sliding out of control. That's what Western countries say they're afraid of.

2:41:43 On the margins of a conference on Libya in Rome, infighting between rival factions has put a dent in the country's energy exports and the ongoing absence of a stable political structure is making the situation worse. Excellent! Excellent work everybody! Rubble eyes! Wait, someone, I think, hold on a second, I think someone sent me a rubble eyes jingle. Maybe I'm wrong. So I've ran into this one story that I think is kind of interesting. It's a little anti-Israeli, so it'll perk everyone's ears up. But I think this was, you know, they make this out to be one thing. It's obviously what's going on here. It's a Nancy Kerrigan, Tonya Harding kind of a situation, which happened in the ice skating. But listen to this. This is just beneath, this is one of the worst, egregious

2:42:39 Sickening things you can do if you're a competitive sports guy. Some 3,800 people have signed this online petition urging FIFA, the international governing body of football, to suspend Israel from its competitions. Campaigning against Israel's Football League membership has stepped up a notch following an incident at the end of January when Israeli soldiers reportedly shot two Palestinian football players, Johanna Sajjaha, age 19, and Adam Halabiya, age 17, in the feet and legs. I'm sorry, I don't understand. I'm trying to understand what happened there. These guys are the competitors, you know, another team, the Palestinian soccer team. And they pulled a Kerrigan and they... Some guy shot these guys in the legs and feet. Oh yeah. And then they, oh, they're terrorists. Yeah, right. So then now everyone's up in arms about it because it's like, well, we didn't know the Israeli football team did all, we didn't know. Who knew?

2:43:37 Meanwhile, these guys can't play anymore obviously and it's just a scandal. I think it's ridiculous and it's obvious it was done on purpose. It's like Nancy Kerrigan telling you to party. You know, she bashed her knee. Well if you're going to do that, that's my anti-Israelist thing. All right, well. It's the best I can do. Then I'm going to play a clip from an Alabama state legislature sitting hearing thingy. you know, all these southern states, you know, we're all crazy about the abortion. We all want to ban the abortion, which I think is called reproductive rights. I always find that to be hilarious. Abortion is reproductive rights. And so there was a bill that was introduced by, I think, a white woman, and it's pertinent to the story. And state representative Alvin Holmes, Democrat, he was very clear

2:44:41 about how abortion laws work and when white people do and don't want them. And I found this to be the most outrageous racist statement. I don't know, you tell me what you think. I was kind of blown away by it. If you ask the people in here now to raise their hand that those who are against abortion 99% of all of the white people in here gonna raise their hand that they against abortion. On the other hand, 99% of the whites that are sitting in here now, if they daughter got pregnant by a black man, they gonna make her daughter having an abortion. They ain't gonna let her have the baby. Do you want to hear more of this?

2:45:40 What is wrong with this guy? There's no mulattoes in all of the state? No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, this is good. Let him go. Now I know you didn't... Listen, you know the truth sometimes hurts. I know it's hard to say that. 99% of those of you sitting here now, if your daughter got pregnant by a black man, you gonna make her have an abortion. You not gonna let her have the baby. What planet is this guy from? 99% Alabama. Yeah. You ain't gonna have no little black baby. She got two other white children and then she gonna have a little black baby gonna be running around there in any living room or any den with the rest of them. I love how he's framing this. If you got two little white babies, you're not gonna have a black baby running around?

2:46:44 Vote this guy out. You know that and I know that. You will never admit it and I know that. And all this stuff about the abortion and this and that. Oh, that's just a con game. That's for whites and for blacks. This lady, I said, I thought you, she said her daughter's going to have an abortion. I said, I thought she was against abortion. She said, yeah, but

2:47:20 My daughter got pregnant by this black man. So he has an example apparently. Normally you give a name but he has an example and yeah I know we gotta have an abortion because my daughter got pregnant by a black man. I don't understand why this is not on MSNBC. Why are they not? Only the NOAHgender show would carry such a clip. It's politically incorrect to even have that guy talking. Now he does ask the white woman what she do. It's another 40 minutes or 40 seconds. He asked the white woman and she's a great, she just is great with her comeback. I say you're not gonna let her have their baby. She's a whore. No. No. No. No. That's crazy. If you had a daughter she got pregnant by a black man you let her have the baby.

2:48:17 I'm asking you. Yes, sir. Pardon me? Speak up a little louder, I can't hear you. Yes, sir. Then after the baby's born, what you gonna do with it? Let it run around in my living room and enjoy it as my grandchild. What are you gonna do with that black baby? Put it running around the living room? Throw a saddle on it? Man! Alvin Holmes, Democrat, Montgomery, Alabama. Yeah, I would call that guy racist. Yeah! Vote that guy out. But that's not going to get played anywhere. Vote him... No, of course not. You can't play that. It would be racist just to play it. It would be racist to play it, that's the problem. And that's... Ella Sharpton would be against it. Yeah, exactly. Rachel would be against it. So they're not going to play it on MSNBC. And Fox, they don't have the guts to play it. No. And they're Democrats, like you said. Yeah.

2:49:18 I got a couple of things about Women's Day, which was yesterday by the way. How did we miss it? Well, it was yesterday. I don't know why we missed it, but we did. There's two stories here. One's short. I was amused by the first one, the Women's Day and the free clip. You can play that if you want. Women around the world are marking International Women's Day today in the Philippines. Thousands gathered to form a giant female symbol. The event may become a little prickly for the largest human formation. Women in the Bay Area held several marches and protests, including one by a Filipino group which called for an end to labor trafficking and justice for victims of Typhoon Haiyan. John, what an opportunity is missed here. We could have a Google Doodle of a women thimble formation.

2:50:06 Yeah, it was the women's symbol. Well anyway, if you play the rest of the clip, it was followed immediately by this. Hundreds of Bay Area girls today were able to pick out their perfect prom dress free of charge. The princess project is now in its 12th year. Okay, so much for Women's Day. Now the other Women's Day story, which I thought was just like what? You had to see the visuals. There's about 20 women max that decided to, and they were all, and I would like to reintroduce the term battle axes with code pink t-shirts. They're all in their, you know, probably mid fifties. They're a bunch of, and they're a bunch of goofballs. And so they've decided they're going to have international, celebrate International Women's Day by going to Egypt and then going to Gaza.

2:50:52 They were just kicked out of the country unceremoniously basically, but you have to see these, but play the clip and you can hear those idiots. Women's rights are important every day of the year, but March 8th is International Women's Day in Egypt. About 100 women activists, most of them from Europe and the United States, had hoped to enter the Gaza Strip through the Rafah border crossing to celebrate. But many of them were deported before they could even reach the Palestinian enclave. Sonia Dridi and Shirley Sitbon report. They'd hoped to spend Women's Day in Gaza, but Egyptian authorities didn't let them carry out their plan. Dozens of pro-Palestinian women activists from Europe and the U.S. traveled to Cairo, hoping to reach the enclave from here. But the Rafah border crossing remained closed for everyone. When the women started protesting at the Cairo airport, many of them were forced to fly back to their countries. Let me get this straight.

2:51:51 You're part of some clique and you want to go to to celebrate International Woman's Day by going to Gaza? What kind of a bunch of... what is this? Yeah, well this is women who have nothing better to do. Who don't clearly... Oh, most of them are all Code Pink by the way. Ah. Oh that's right. I think the leader, the Code Pink leader, didn't she get detained and she was saying where's my embassy, my embassy's my state department not helping me. What's her name, Mina? Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. All right. I just found it to be weird. You know, I love women. I love women who are activists. I love women who run things. I love women who boss me around, quite frankly. I love it when women are running things. I really do. This is disturbing. This is no good. You're gonna get kicked out. Huh. What a shocker. We need more doodles.

2:52:50 We need more All right, I think we should quit while we're ahead before you know before women like start to catch on that. I'm misogynistic Yeah, well we knew that all righty everybody John and I will be tweeting from south by southwest as we are roaming the streets and hunting down all the cool apps Yeah, if you see me say hi. That's right. Yeah, we'll be at the Gaga Keynote Gaga is giving a keynote wow Believe it or not, I've already got Miss Mickey in. Yeah you did. Good for you because you know she's probably, does she qualify as a little monster? I'm about to be squashed into a Google Doodle. So with that, I thank you all for your courage. I would like you to remember to support this program for the work that we do, not to be given to some lawyer.

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