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00:00 Yeah, they gotta wipe these people out. Welcome to the official non-governmental organization podcast from FEMA Region 6 here at the Travis Heights Hideout in Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry From Northern Silicon Valley I have no idea what he said I am John C. Dvorak Is that because you can't hear me or it was unclear? No actually I could but you were long

00:38 I don't know what you said and also the music's a little louder than you. No, i'm sorry well I was just saying that this is the official non-governmental organization podcast from FEMA Region 6 We need to be a non-governmental organization And no but I've looked into this we can be in non governmental organization without being like an official 501c3 nonprofit This is true why not? You just call us say where we could make something up This is it! And I've tried it last night I gave it a shot Right we had a couple's dinner A couple's dinner. I know now what does this even mean? It's aren't all dinners kind of a couples dinner This is so here's what happened one of the Mickey has I think two years ago We met this beautiful girl Probably the most beautiful black woman, I've ever seen like Cleopatra Jones beautiful

01:37 And Mickey, you know they started doing stuff and she does fashion stuff. But Mickey used her for a lot of her artwork so she's kind of Mickey's muse. I think we've talked about this but her husband is a lobbyist here in Texas but he has totally no agenda material And that's a good thing. Yeah, no it's a very good thing and so there was good and she's pregnant I guess she has like three more weeks to go and someone was gonna do a baby shower and then It went from a baby shower or something anyway So Mickey says about a week in half ago She says oh look III got Shanghai'd into this thing was supposed to be like a baby shower But now it's a Saturday night. I know you're prepping but it's this couple's dinner thing Whatever please please please okay? No problem. We'll go

02:23 So there's five couples. There's ten people and this is a pretty good size event Yeah, and it's pretty much the worst thing you can do to me certainly on And I knew actually some good some lot of good that came out of it because besides the lobbyist The banker was also there who? And I'll talk about him later because he knows one of the bankers that committed suicide so we can bring a little info in about that and but then You know, I had the opportunity with three new couples to reintroduce myself and come up with new ways of saying it. So I tried... New ways to not annoy people? No no! New ways to talk about what I do. Okay. See, I work for a non-governmental organization. That must just go over. It's gotta be huge. It was—it's a winner really oh wow you know the funny thing is

03:21 Technically, technically our show is a non-governmental organization. If anything... That it's not government? General Motors! Non-government well hold on did they pay the money back yet I think so okay then they're an NGO so i tried two different ways that tried NGO and non governmental organization and NGO works better hands down because people don't even know what stands for oh ok great So you just buffalo them? Yeah, so what do you do at the NGO. I'm a legislation analyst oh wow this is fantastic! So yeah...so i think we just need to say it. The NA-NGO We are an official NGO and I'm just gonna keep trying it see how far I can take it It seems to work I work for an NGO let me see if I practiced on this

04:15 I'm John. How are you? Hi, hey, um, I've seen you around here at the club what do you Yeah, yeah, I come around once in awhile. I work for an NGO Oh really? Do you come here often at Swingers Paradise? Yeah oh yeah most NGO people get nothing else to do because of pay Oh man, oh. All right so um actually there were some we met some nice people homeschoolers and everyone it was kind of a mixed batch it was nice but of course you know I was like at 9 30 I'm like okay nice drinking with y'all but I gotta go why NGO work? Oh that's official business he has to go. Official business! But that was nothing compared to Valentine's Day

05:07 And I have to say, I feel gypped and screwed. And...I don't know if you've witnessed any of this but I got guilted in this whole...it was really bad this year typically, ya know, that I can get away with whatever But somehow because we had the show before Valentine's Day Umm..and there was another thing...oh yeah it's right! We had a thing going on...this is crazy with the social calendar Anyway, I didn't think of reserving anything or like restaurant or any of this. And Friday morning Mickey wakes me up with a beautiful card and breakfast and candles and like... Oh! You dropped the ball? Like oh freaking Russian frogger! I said kill me then I'm like at least give me the morning to arrange some stuff

06:01 She's like, no no don't worry I know you had a show yesterday. It's okay... Okay this is very obvious the gauntlet is down Yeah, that's not good. Oh no don't worry about it! Don't worry about forgetting about me I didn't forget this was... It was not okay this I was totally shamed and guiltless I hop in the truck I'm running around to flower shops let me tell you something that i didn't know but it seems obvious flowers in Texas are not a good match And people literally would look at me like You- seriously, you're here for roses right now on Valentine's Day? And they'd walk away from me! The people in the store would walk away. Yeah, yeah. Like I was a degenerate

06:46 Yeah, I would do the same thing. So I wound up finding some handmade chocolate and I got a beautiful card and you know how when you have the card and you have the magic marker and you're doing your thing? You're lucky that you got through the spelling but then I drew the heart and it kind of looked like an upside down butt crack. It was totally horrible! But then After our dinner, which I did was quick to arrange something. We were invited to spend our Valentine's evening with the constitutional lawyer and his wife and because they They're big donors to the Zack theater here And we went to see the play in the next room or The Vibrator play as it's known are you familiar with this play never heard of it? It was by Sarah rule um and believe me. I'm just reading what I googled

07:40 It was nominated for Tony's and I think it won a Tony. What is the name of it again? In The Next Room, The Vibrator Play And its about the first doctor who used the vibrator on women to rid them of their hysteria So you know the play may be very well written but within... We're in the first act halfway through the first act and Mickey and I look at each other like Oh my god This acting is so bad It's just completely horrible. And maybe... Welcome to the locals! And maybe 10 minutes after that, all of a sudden A guy keels over right behind us from a heart attack Probably because of the acting

08:24 It's just boom! And this is the third time this has happened with me. So I don't know if it was me... Oh yeah, this is... Yeah, yeah, I heard of this play because it actually premiered in Berkeley Yes that's right Exactly That should tell you enough right there Uh so the guy uh he keels over and Mickey stops the play. This is what yeah this is the woman you want when there's an emergency so this guy keels over forward you know and so now he's like one row behind us and Mickey just stands up oh this is unbelievable yes and make it Mickey stand your stories are better than mine to stop stop medical doctor medical doctor! And I'm like as opposed to a veterinarian? I don't know, what are we gonna do?

09:14 And it's good, because everyone is frozen and Mickey is like, alright call a doctor here! A medical doctor. And people are like, should I call 911? And Mickey says yes, call 9-1-1 you, you, you! Call 911 we can take over! I think she saved the guy's life She probably did That's a Valentine's Day gift Yeah well that really kind of blew my mind You know what, you really blew it. I know what could have done to save the moment Not the play moment but before You have a local guy there, he's been wanting to meet you. You could've called him up and told him that he has to do a little act. It was like part of it... pretend that is had been planned in advance and have Brian Brushwood come over and do some magic! And we'd finish off with a bouquet of fake roses. Boom! Out of his ear. All I had to do was call Brian Brushwood? How stupid am I?! I could've taken care of all this. Thank you. Yeah, he'd fake it

10:15 Anyway, now you blew it. Yeah yeah I did Mimi's this she doesn't have in my family just like that I get a usually call on Tuesday a couple days before or if I'm not up there I'm down here and she calls me Mimi will call and say hey don't forget It's Valentine's Day really make sure to send Jay something But you have to send your daughter something is that part of Valentine's oh? Yeah, yeah no Christina well in America it tends to be man All the women that you have seen in the last six months if you put your eyes on them, you have to send them something. If you lay eyes on them! Oh I saw... what's their date? Damn it just across the deadline But it's such a bogus thing You gotta send him at least a hello Well thats with e-cards thats why..that was great invention oh I love you kind of here is an E card

11:10 Anyway, so I had lots of time to work on real things Besides this story about about the heart attack in the theater is priceless This is the third time though. The previous time was people dropping around her No no around me that remember the UT game on Thanksgiving where the lady died right down two rows below me Then we had the heart attack on the plane last time We flew it's like the third heart attack huh? I don't know. You might have some vibe coming off. Maybe, well a third three is the random number that probably won't happen again ever in your life? Probably not so i focused on the three things that we were talking about last. I focused on NGOs because you blew me away with your study and to revisit that...I don't remember exactly what the study was but the result was people believe- It was the trust study done by Edelman on a yearly basis right exactly which you were not supposed

12:10 I'm not supposed to write it up, that's the way i heard. Okay okay that's what i heard too so i didn't write a word of it Not a word um and so the trust study is people trust non-governmental organizations the most and so i decided it was time to probably revisit a couple of these wow particularly human you would you find something oh my god particularly human rights watch Oh yeah, those guys. Well these are kind of the guys they're the ones that have been doing all this the Sochi stuff but that's the way to pronounce it by the way so achi so achi not so chi so watch he um well before you go there I do have one clip that relates to where i think you might be headed good

12:54 Which is I have a clip of a woman, it's one of our ski jumpers. A female ski jumper this is the first time they had female ski jumpers. This clip by the way is The Olympian does not get the memo And I suspect that because she's a pretty Olympic ski jumper and they had her on RT just to tell her what she thought about the whole situation and all the other, you know give her impression. And I believe that she was one of people who weren't briefed because who is going to talk to her? And so she was honest, not briefed and she told it like it is about Sochi. Nevertheless have been enjoying life outside the gates we heard from some competitors I find a beautiful I think um... No! It's been organized great Get her off! Everybody's really nice and of course the scenery is just fabulous. It was hard not to pay attention to how much negativity it was getting but

13:52 I was trying to stay optimistic. I knew i was coming here regardless and so far, I have been so pleasantly surprised Well as a sidetrack to that...I have been following the Olympics. I tried to re-catch the fever which is very very hard with all of the negativity surrounding it One of the couples last night, the guy used to be in radio sales Now I think you and I pretty much can identify a radio sales guy from a million miles away because they know exactly what's going on Right and they're kind of, they're like stock traders almost. Would you agree? That's a very typical kind of guy. Floor guy! But he understands what is going on in life And we got to talking about the Olympics and he said oh my god they are doing it so well

14:36 Did you did you see the? The snowboarder whose brother is all messed up, and he's like And now it's all you know even though. He was a better snowboarder You got Parkinson's or something put the camera on that guy a little too long what do you mean it's beautiful in slow-mo Beautiful we were talking about how that has gotta be a ratings bonanza Yeah, she definitely gets the tear to come on most people's eyeballs. Of course and then there's a lot of tear-jerking moments in these Olympics well and then our Short program ice skater fell and then he got up any finished his program a true Olympic moment I shed another tear People were falling all over the place but he didn't lose because he had the Olympic spirit

15:28 So if you look at Human Rights Watch, this is very... their record is so atrocious. In fact the Malinowski I think it was who worked for... he was a high-ranking official of Human Rights Watch and approved to be Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights and Labor And subsequently, is now in... it convenes actually the Tuesday meetings where they determine who they're going to kill with a drone. This is Human Rights Watch and this guy was in government before so he went out of government into Human Rights Watch and back again

16:07 And these people are all for renditions, you know as long as they're not inhumane. This is a horrible organization it really is! It's just... and I saw of course that I had to pull their 990 just to see what was going on. They have... oh my god I think they do 35 million dollars? In revenue in one year? I'm pulling up the 990 now so I can give you the... made a couple of markups. Yeah I think what was kind of interesting Here we go. What did they do? Yeah, they did $36 million in total revenue for 2012 Salaries 11 million dollars seems a little on the heavy side if you ask me but okay

16:57 How many people do they have working there? Well, they don't specify everything because it's a... They don't have to first of all. The only show the top people who are working there and it's all within reason I think just got a lot of people making 240-260 thousand dollars but when you really see the grants they paid out was 3.7 million dollars so they almost tripled the amount in salaries as to what they actually paid out in grants All the rest of the money Um, goes... Well what was? Hold on a second. I'm sorry this is human rights campaign. This is the split off so you have the Human Rights Watch then you have Human Rights Campaign, Human Rights Campaign Foundation it's a web of stuff and this is the gay and lesbian thing HRC

17:51 In fact, the Human Rights Campaign... this is from their tax form. The Human Rights Campaign has organized and operated for the promotion of the social welfare of the lesbian gay bisexual and transgender community by inspiring and engaging people from around the globe that is their mission statement And what they do is give little bits-and-bobs to just a different LGBT organizations but the majority money's going into overhead and lobbying $2 million dollars for lobbying And then the page where they have all their donors, because it says that money comes from individuals. They have all the amounts but none of them... Because they don't have to report it. None of the names! So there's an individual who gave $150k, $341K but no names! It is completely non-transparent this whole thing. Well now you confused me Why?

18:50 Well because the human rights watch did you get there $9.99? Yeah, they have over a hundred and fifty million dollars no but I think what i'm trying to say is their split offs and you have to follow all these individual little bits in the human rights watch that's pretty much one for one the state department and a lot of their money comes from was it the Democratic endowment Not fund. What is it? Endowment... Come on, what is that thing called? The endowment for democracy? Come on help me out! I don't know what it is. I never heard of it Yes of course you do It's the big drinking club Well there are a lot of those Hold on a second National endowment for democracy

19:38 You know this don't you? I've heard of that. Yes, this is where Hillary Clinton speaks at this all the time and this is Madeleine Albright... Yeah they take somehow there's somebody funneling money to them That is directly from the State Department and then they distributed out to all these other groups including Human Rights Watch and Human Rights Now and Human Rights Campaign and Human Rights Foundation And these are all the NGOs and they come up with little reports. Even though we reported on it way ahead of time, seems that for some reason this now is news. A group monitoring freedom of the press worldwide has issued a strong rebuke to the US

20:18 The World Press Freedom Index ranks the US 46th this year, down from 13 spots down from last year. Reporters Without Borders says the U.S had quote one of the most significant declines in press freedom. Now if you look at the numbers we're really talking a difference of 4%. over last year. So on a scale of 1 to 100, you know there's a 4% decline that puts the US in 46th place. Is this not a 4 percent decline? That's not right! Yeah it is... We were 33 before right now we're 46 No they do it by- It's a number if you look at the actual document its a number scoring system

20:58 This is the trick. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah this is like showing a graph of... The input? Yeah the input is literally a 4% difference over last year because everything is so close You know when they have the numbers about education oh America's 190th on the list which is really it's like two basis points different from number 2 It just looks really good and makes for a good press release Nice catch! And this will go nicely with our new domain name Thank you Paul the InfoSec guy. ReportersWithoutBoredom.com I guess we came up with that last time and we have reporterswithoutboredom.com as our website because i think we should be doing our own little report um and that of course brought me right back to the human rights NGOs, and I thought maybe it would be interesting to revisit briefly human rights

21:55 Could people talk about human rights, gay rights? Animal rights but mainly human rights and I guess the big thing is LGBTQI rights. But where do these rights come from who determines the rights what who codifies the human rights when were these put into existence Okay you asking me? I don't know if you recall Well, I mean the way it's usually presented is there were God-given rights. Right except this really happened in the 90s that's when... Yes! I didn't know that God came through? Was he passing through in the nineties? Took him a little too long. He got stuck in the 80s yeah and he got stuck with shoulder pads and was like I was grooving to much

22:44 It came in the 90s and that's really when the United Nations codified all this. And what I was going to do is go back to a quick clip, I pulled this from one of our earlier shows from the early 300s... I remember this by the way! When I interviewed Samuel Moyn professor at Columbia. Yeah, should be good. Professor at Columbia and he specifically talks about where these human rights really came from but what they're really used for and as you might guess They're not really to protect other people's human rights. They are used to impose military warfare on countries who were accused, or states as he will say, who were accused of not protecting human rights which is exactly what is going on so I thought it might be good to revisit that Yes you imply human rights are open to so many divergent uses

23:31 And the one thing I would clarify is that the UN tries to introduce human rights right after World War II, and that's how we get the Universal Declaration. But no one really cares and in a way the UN initially is where human rights go to die So what happens in the post-war period is that human rights are kind of reclaimed from the UN. On the one hand, ordinary people part of amnesty and eventually part of human rights groups like Human Rights Watch begin to take a claim to human rights, to analyzing other states, to criticizing other states

24:11 We have the Human Rights Council, a United Nations body that does this for a living. It definitely does so but there are also so-called nongovernmental organizations which try to provide an alternative human rights forum to the United Nations and then presidents do it. So statesmen since Jimmy Carter uh... invoked human rights i have said american foreign policy should abide by human rights or even promote human rights and there we we get into i think what's quite difficult about it because she writes could mean lots of different things and really depends who is invoking them into one purpose i wouldn't want to rule out that it can be uh... a language that make a difference since

25:00 interfering with other sovereignties may be something worth doing and there may be ways of doing it that improve the world. But as you suggest or fear, it could also be subject to abuse and I think we have to just be realists and look out so that when we hear human rights we ask what for? Which rights? With whose interests in mind?" And that is a professor who has written the book about human rights How does human rights and droning some family out in the middle of nowhere Yemen? Yeah, how to gather. How does that go together yeah it doesn't you have the only way I see it going together is if you condition people enough to Not kill and that's also kind of his point Is that Americans really don't care And if any few if you look at what's going on If you look at the spy programs

26:04 Just the IRS targeting any and really anything no one really cares. No one gives it You know what kind of makes that don't care kind of interesting in an ironic way is That there are two political factions that dominate the conversation in United States, The conservatives and the liberals right? and they both pretend to care in a lot of different ways but when the ball is in their court as it is in the liberalist court at the moment, they don't care. Well they do anything about it Nobody gives a crap about Obama's kill list They talk big, oh its terrible, what are we having for dinner tonight? And then whats interesting and fun to watch

26:54 The LGBTQQI community sit by idly while they are being misused in the latest round of what the human rights organizations, the NGOs, the non-governmental organizations who are either directly or indirectly funded by the federal government. misusing gay and rainbow for their own benefit. Of course! And to increase the, I know but to increase the coffers and everyone's going along blindly... They don't care they don't care or they're part of it or maybe it's a social thing I mean just like go back to again the gay news that with Andy Humm and what's her name Northrup woman

27:43 They don't really go beyond anything superficial. Just like, oh somebody's a douchebag this guy said that gays are bad this guy said that gays are bad and there is nothing more to it they don't see any big picture and they don't care about the truth about the Russians or anything in between well so you don't care here's here's the latest I think blatant misuse of the alternative lifestyle and sexuality communities. And can we stop with calling it a community? The community!

28:19 In a community, you're lesbian. You're gay transgestered... Transgester? This is the new one. You're bicurious bisexual heteroflexal whatever it is It's just community yet part of the community of the human people but this this one really blew me away Facebook users your about section just expanded in a big and maybe for many of you unfamiliar way Under gender there's now a custom option and it allows you to choose from 50 terms. Here are some of the examples cisgender, gender fluid two-spirit intersex and neither. Joining me now Rich Ferraro vice president of communications for GLAAD so rich... Now let's pay close attention to what's going on here this is a representative from GLAAD this is another non governmental organization And this guy is peeing in his pants with joy

29:13 that they have somehow, it was so hard to convince Facebook to allow people to customize their gender where really Facebook is going wow thank you for yet another invaluable data point so we can send messaging to these people from advertisers. how obvious do you have to make it? It's so obvious. It's a win for Facebook and this guy is he's almost like glad we had to work so hard but we got him to do it, we got him for equality for all 50 categories of sex and gender on this project with Facebook. So whose idea was it and why did it become an issue and important move for Facebook? Facebook today is a reflection of who we are in the story that we want to tell the world about ourselves, and there were some users who couldn't do that. I don't have to tell you what... You know this kind of guy right? This PR guy

30:11 It's really, really horrible. Facebook contacted us... Yeah, smarmy PR guy there are a lot of them are very they're all cut from the same cloth. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Glad to help work with us on this issue and glad was happy to work with Facebook but more importantly we were happy for the transgender and that gender non-conforming youth who now could tell... Gender non-conforming youth! ...the world who they are in their own words So what do you say to those folks that are like okay this is just way too much to understand and comprehend, why can't we just keep it more simple? I don't think it's ridiculous to accept LGBT young people for who they are. I think that Facebook has really made a great step forward to telling those young people that you can be who you are on Facebook. That's the beautiful thing, we all want to be who we are right Rich? It's the beautiful thing! We all wanna... actually that's a little slam at the end though, listen what she says in the end

31:02 That's a beautiful thing. We all want to be what we are right rich you crazy gay PR guy on Facebook Well, that's a beautiful thing. We all want to be who we are right rich Right you sleep I hadn't heard that the first time around as nice And and so this is to me. I can't see it any other way than this is Facebook just taking advantage of free publicity basically And and turn that into direct advertising dollars because oh yeah, no this is another you're right. This is exactly right This is a data point for advertisers in the NSA and whoever else because now you've just You've given a little bit more of yourself away because you are a whatever these things are trans jester

31:49 Whatever that you know whatever some of these 50 categories. I'd like to hear a reading of the 50 categories Do you have that well? The funny thing is I went into Facebook, and I wanted to try it And it seems like you type in a letter and they give you suggestions But if I think you can do whatever you want to do It seems like you can change it into anything but here's the rub so I went in night and of course I put In heteroflexible, I think that'll be funny, and then I save it and it says what does it even mean who cares oh Hopefully they'll be able to send me better ads. I think that's what everyone should put in. And as I put that in but then Facebook says oh no you can't do that, you have to have two categories of people with two different gender descriptions so you have... What? Yeah I know this is crazy! You cannot just have one it has to be you could have two the same

32:41 But you have to have one for your friends and then one for public, and one for your... What? Your red circles. I don't know how Facebook works! It's like-I'm afraid i'll get sucked in and become a user A robot! Because I don't want to get hooked on it so I'm trying to- You know John, Facebook is really not that bad. I think you've got the wrong impression. I think so too. So as I am researching this, I fall into.. I think this all part of it The, uh... gender-neutral parenting movement and community. Oh yeah! Now this is pretty big

33:19 Oh, it's huge. And this is in the Bay Area where we get a lot of those man on the street reports from our local news where this person is like you know I don't understand why they keep... The bullying problem is out of control because my son wears a dress and we think he should wear whatever he wants Whatever he wants to do is fine Yeah or we want to raise our son as a boy and a girl So he won't grow up aggressive towards women Yeah, there's that. Now there is one... and this is literally parents exposing their children to traditional boy-traditional girl stuff

33:59 lifestyle then there's the and I'm trying to follow then this the general the gender creative parenting which is different which i think yeah it was okay because it's not saying no when your kid wants to play with a dolls or you know wants to have his hair long or whatever. It's not saying, No! You can't do that. You're a boy." That I am okay with I think the name gender creative parenting is off base because it's just a bit pretentious. Yes, but it seems like every one of these parents who was in the news you know like raising my boy chick and really? Isn't boy chicken old term for an old Yiddish term? I don't know Boy chick hey boy boy chick goy chick. I think is what you're thinking of they all have a blog or a book or

34:52 But I think where all of this is headed, and this is what I'm a little worried about. This eventually, I think, is headed towards emancipation and we may want to be as parents may want to be careful with what's really happening because at a certain point when it comes to gender I think doctors already are saying oh mom dad you have to step out of the room because you know I've been going to talk about something here with your kid That's when the doctor will you know say well here are some condoms? You know but you don't worry if you feel attracted to girls and or your same-sex And doctors are well. I you know, I think it might be overlooking something Okay Which is our basic theme on a lot of these things that always boils down To it which is taking our rights away in this case. I would say freedom of speech again hmm

35:44 Because this whole sort of thing, where you disallowed from saying your kid is going to be screwed up if you keep this up with him. You're actually making him wear a dresser why is he coming into school with high heels on? He's in the fourth grade lady! Oh you're bullying me! Yeah Much of society, especially and I think this is also part of the movement toward one world government and all the rest even though it's a little wackier. There has always been this movement to

36:24 to kind of disintegrate the societal norms insofar as peer group pressure is concerned. And if you have all this essentially balkanization of the social norms, in other words people just do their old nuts kids coming into fourth grade with tattoos on their face and they're saying there a girl and they're bald I mean it's a million possibilities! If there are no social norms that say NO You know, as a community...a real community. In other words the people that live in this town can't tell you no! You can't do that with this kid it is disruptive and if you can't do that anymore then the whole society falls apart because most of it is based on this sort of pressure I would take just..I think I leapfrogged this step and took one further

37:13 And I believe that the... and we've, there was some other UN thing. Children's rights and children have to have rights and they didn't have to be able to sue their parents. We talked about this in some show Yeah, and there was some legislation it's just coming back to me now but i believe when they were 13 or 14 maybe even 12 that they're going to start to give these children so-called rights which makes you know you got to be careful because then people start to tell your kids what to do against you Yeah, and that is going on now to an extent. I mean the kids come home from school which is a reason for homeschooling And they've got these crackpot notions that are fed to them by their teacher. I mean I've had it with Eric DeShill, Buzzkill Jr who came home with some... what?

38:04 With what? Herpes? Where did you learn that? No, it's mostly stuff like Columbus. Columbus was a slaver and he is a horrible person that should be... We should have Indigenous Day rather than because we killed the Indians and we're horrible as a culture! We all stink! We should shoot ourselves in the head! The American Academy of Pediatrics has embraced the youth rights campaign and movement In recent policy statements on emergency contraception and care of LGBTQ youth, hey could you people get it right? It's LGBTQI. The AAP that's the American Academy of Pediatrics urges pediatricians to counsel educate and support young people in the exercise of their sexual and reproductive rights this is 12 and 13 year olds

38:54 The AAP informs its physicians that regardless of the adolescent's current intentions for sexual behavior, the pediatrician should discuss sexual safety and family planning as a matter of routine anticipatory guidance. The conscientious pediatrician will go by offering to supply both boys and girls with emergency contraception to have on hand in case of future need. And this is done without parents' consent 12 and 13 year olds. And by the way, I handed out stuff to my daughter even before that but that's my decision not some association of pediatrics as to what they're gonna do and that it also i think it runs both ways parents have to take responsibility and we're easy to just hand it over

39:49 Yeah, and there are some parents that are irresponsible and crappy. And I think targeting them is beside the point because they still have these rights since they bore the kid and raise the kid and pay for the kids school and do whatever they have to if they can manage That's not right. It's ownership. Well, this is like Sparta they let love ideally that some people would love to take all the kid you have a kid goes right to training camp Yeah never sees the parents on set down maybe once a month. Let me perfect You put something in the newsletter which relates this by the way big kudos our friend who does the newsletter for the spin class place

40:33 She reads our newsletters because she does a newsletter and she's a big fan of your newsletter, and she thought the cat Stroking the dolphin was just about the best thing. She'd ever seen she thought that was just she's like That was almost no fair says how can you top that? There's nothing better than that I Spent a lot of time Good work here's Ellen page she's an actor and she chose the human rights campaign to out herself And I had I didn't even know I didn't know who Ellen Page was until I saw the newsletter and then I went looking for her Okay, I know who she is So I have this this minute and a half of her coming out Is that relevant to play in regards to what you wrote about? No play it We'll find out we took just five minutes To recognize each other's beauty instead of attacking each other for our differences. That's not hard

41:35 It's really an easier and better way to live. And this is exactly not what HRC and HRW are doing, they're not taking five minutes to look at the beauty in the rainbows in the unicorns which I'm all for instead they are yelling Putin hates gays! Putin hates gays! it's true...it's not constructive it's just not a constructive thing who says its supposed to be? She just said it Well, she's an idiot. She is there on behalf of human rights campaign who are the people yelling this? Yes I know but she is the counterbalance it's like maybe you won't notice that they're doing what you just described and they're all just a buncha good people this is great operation. It saves lives then again it can be the hardest thing because loving other people starts with loving ourselves and accepting ourselves And I know many have struggled with this

42:34 And I draw upon your strength and your support in ways that you will never know. And I am here today because I am gay, and because... Now, now I do want to say with 50 categories on Facebook With big applause when you're outing yourself How come when I say I'm bi-curious which is a category on Backpage It's a category on Craigslist

43:10 How come I get, no one's applauding for me? You get booed. I ge- I get shouted down! Yeah you get shouted down well your not Ellen Page your not Cutie. But it's that horrible By the way by the way she...I've heard her before She is so nervous Yes, she's very nervous. Well I mean she is extremely nervous may have been a big deal I mean I can totally on that sure was amazing lot of people you know the funny thing is you if you do a lot Of public speaking yeah and especially if you've never really been nervous in front of a big crowd You will find him at a moment someplace And in your in your career of talking to people like talking to the public where you actually get nervous it happened to me once and It's extremely annoying

43:56 I got nervous. The only time i've ever gotten nervous talking in front of the city council Really? Those boneheads yeah, that's funny. That's the joke of it! Not sure why anyway go on but Yeah Of course I think I had it once with maybe it was a Mick Jagger or something so I was interviewing someone and all of a sudden just fucking lost It which had never happened to me before I was like Maybe it was Quincy Jones, but I was drinking then. I don't know Anyway the...I guess the point that i'm saying here is there's a matrix of this NGO crap that has pulled all around us and I appreciate that you kind of broke your embargo although I think he held to the letter He didn't write anything up But told us about this

44:52 We need to use it for our own benefit. Well, no I didn't break an embargo this was a oral agreement A and it was about writing about it specifically you can't report on it but here's the proviso that went in there says you can't talk... You can't write about it. You can't talk about this is a non-this is a private event but you can tweet about it. Yeah right So if I can tweet about it, this means my social media is open game and this is social media what we're doing. But regardless of how we break this news the two things are one- We need to take advantage of this for ourselves and we really need to use that And now officially crowning us with a title of NGO

45:35 And we need to be very, very vigilant and continuously look into all of these operations that we have been trained to accept as the good guys. Because they're just not! Even the good guys who have these good intentions are really just misusing their causes to further political agenda." Yeah no in fact this is what I claimed on the last show Looking at Edelman's complete list, he first stumbled on this the first time he did the truth survey and started to notice it as a major trend. And that was 14 years ago so... The governments themselves! Yes and he made a billion dollars doing it They looked at what these guys like this character

46:20 is a hotshot and he's one of the heads of one of the major public relations operations in the world. And when he says something like that, people take notice and then which is I think the reason they want to keep it as quiet as they can They take notice and literally take advantage of it. If everyone's trusting the NGOs let's just become an NGO! Yes. As you just did well if nobody likes that we're podcasters well lets us become an NGO which we can yes We are a podcast as an NGO. It's a non-governmental organization Yes, we are guys we are an NGO by subscription Subscribe to my NGO on iTunes yes, we're in NGO but and there is no right I don't see anywhere any rule that says an NGO has to be a nonprofit charitable organization Let's check out the book of knowledge let's just have a seat

47:13 Governmental organization. I don't think you have to be a non-profit, i don't think you have to have some kind of certificate Non-governmental... No there's no such thing this is like being a reporter You don't need yet, you don't need a license Ah hold on yeah this is true I think as it's opening up and for some reason everything's going slow today Here listen to this The term non-governmental organization, NGO normally which means not always refers to organizations that are neither a part of a government nor conventional for profit business. I'd say we're highly unconventional usually set up by ordinary citizens. Hello? Two for two! NGOs may be funded by governments foundations or businesses

48:01 Well, we don't get any... We'll get some business support. Some avoid formal funding altogether and are run primarily by volunteers! NGOs are highly diverse group of organizations engaged with a wide range of activities and take different forms in different parts of the world. Some may have charitable status, while others may be registered for tax exemption based on recognition or social purposes. Other maybe fronts for political religious or other interest groups." Well that's us! We're a front for our rent! Yeah that's what we are

48:40 The number of NGOs operating in the United States estimated one and a half million NGOs. One and a half million, and that's not non-profits as one half million NGOs Yeah That's just outrageous And that doesn't include Russia which has 277 thousand it says and those are probably mostly American Those who are American now have to be registered as foreign agents Look at India How they doing? 3.3 million NGOs What do they do how is that working out There's just one NGO per 400 Indians. That has to be our ratio! Okay, so I think we fit the mold? We can... Let's just see is there any monitoring and control? Oh wait there's some organization hold on. Kofi Annan... I just need if we have to register anywhere legal form ah legal status legal form of NGOs Well hold on a second you now that i think about this and i think we discussed this on a show about

49:45 The United Nations has some sort of list of official NGOs that somehow promote whatever. And I believe, at least I tried and maybe you did to fill out the forms necessary to be listing this show as one of their approved operations but it was so confusing I think we gave up on it and then stopped talking about it Well, so here the legal status. Legal form of NGOs is diverse and depends upon homegrown variations in each country's laws and practice however four main family groups of NGOs can be found worldwide unincorporated involuntary association I think that's us we're not incorporated and were voluntary association trust charities and foundations companies not just for profit oh hello it said does not just for profit that's us! We're not just-for-profit

50:36 Exactly. We're for fun? Comedic value? No, we're here to serve the public needs for real information Yes! Value for value Entities formed or registered under special NGO or non-profit laws Okay, we're not in that Alright Um...we'll have to—We should probably look into that again See if there's a list we can get on Someone can certainly get us on a list That's valid And then isn't there like— Yeah no I think we have a better shot now than we did before Yeah There's certainly some kind of seal or stamp of approval a ribbon or some banner we can put it on our website that makes us official don't you think there's got to be something. That'll pack them in, they'll pack them in. Oh they're officials so I can listen to their show now

51:23 Well, John thank you for your courage and in the morning to you John C. Dvorak And in the morning do Adam Curry In the morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground feedin' The air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there! And to our artists Thank you very much for all of the wonderful work that you provide us with at noagendaartgenerator.com Episode 5 9 or 2 Martin JJ back and we look forward to seeing what happens today and We always appreciate the work that our Artists do for our album art in one can I yeah, okay before you go get to finish the in the morning? But I got to say something about the art in the morning. Yeah the chat room people Yeah been so nice today This is my favorite when someone just types a whole line of Z's Like I guess they're bored or something about what we're talking about Z's yeah

52:12 You guys bore me. Yeah, I'm so bored! Look at your life loser you're sitting there listening to a podcast. I want to mention something about Martin JJ and the art yeah just through the other artists just I mentioned this about three four months ago I'll mention it again I went back and looked at old art because I was digging up something for the newsletter and I noticed that like years ago Martin JJ was constantly sending stuff in I don't think we picked his stuff for two years Because he was missing it. You know, he's just a little thing there a little bit there He wasn't nailing it and and so this is the thing that I would I'm just saying this because I don't want to dis I Don't want to see artists discouraged because we don't pick their art So what you're saying is keep going at it attaboy? Is that way? Yeah

53:09 I have no idea what i'm talking about. Keep trying and one day the gods of no agenda, the NGO might choose you we might bestow you with the honor. Okay pretty much so the way this program works and the only reason why we can even bring up the topic of NGOs because we're not afraid! We don't have to pay our rent from the NGOs who we have to go and be nice too get a handout We don't have to do any of that. We got to be nice to advertisers, all we have to do is satisfy the people who actually produce this program they are our producers and they support us with all kinds of information also financially and the top donors for each episode there are executive and associate executive producers and a good list today to kick us off into into the new week

53:57 That's your key. And I do want to mention we also have this new category called special executive producer just for show 600 Yes, and we do have first just random number of I guess three people showed up today Wow taking that honor Sir David Foley $600.33 in Los Gatos we know him he's the what was his name which he does 4k what's his name of this? 4K special dot-com use NA for a discount but I believe now sir David Foley is the... Is he a Grand Duke now? No, no. He's the Archduke of Silicon Valley. He is up there but he is not Grand Duke... It's hard. In the morning John and Adam sorry for the gap in supporting your courage please find my club 600 membership payment and 33 cents for good measure nice and you'll get a special Sir Hank and Sir Hank and Q Gardens New York $600

54:54 Thank you for your hard work. Please give a karma shot for you and everyone out there to keep hitting people in the mouth You've got karma Sir Howard kraut Longmont, Colorado I have it. Oh you have the note? I couldn't find those from him and his brother It's kind of funny because I forwarded note to Eric And then he puts in the spreadsheet, you got an email about it. Yeah that's why I forwarded it to you anyway so I found... He is not going type all that crap in Oh! I'm sorry

55:30 Ctrl-C, Ctrl V. Oh my hand hurts! Whatever just read the note. Heil everyone The Kraut Brothers look forward to producing show 5, 9 or 2 and the 600th edition of the greatest podcast in the universe We thought that Victoria Nuland segment was great fantastic analysis Mr. Dvorak Moreover Adam You're spot-on with your assessment of Facebook. Keep it up! Today's donation makes the Kraut Brothers a knight We'd like to be known collectively as the Knight of 89th and Bluegrass Of course, no Kraut Brothers producership would be complete without Adam's patented shout out to Eleanor I'm not quite sure what that patented shoutout is Yeah you were patented shout out, you know No?

56:20 Okay, by the way keep thinking about a real-time donation mechanism for those who listen to the live feed That's Paul and Howard kraut. A couple of Jews from FEMA regions 2 & 8 Beautiful and they'll be knighted later on today I like the idea of Real time donations you know You just cut people off while they're listening to the live feed if they say something dumb in the chat room Just cut them off and charge him to get back in so Leo does So he doesn't charge him to get back in that's a that's a twist. That would be cool That's like you can get an unblocked. It's gonna cost ya five bucks Yeah, you could get it on five! You cheap bastard Hey I had to pay five bucks to get back in Bounce Now its gonna cost you ten We really appreciate the special producership from the Kraut Brothers Thank you very much gentlemen and we'll look forward to knighting you later today Grant Synor C-Y-N-O-R

57:26 $592 from Leawood, Kansas. He'll be an executive producer This is my return as producer after calling out helmet head and fishermen as complete douchebags on show 550 Helmet head has stepped up and de-douche himself So that is that just leaves fishermen as the remaining supreme freeloading commander of the douche bag dumb Yeah, I think we should douchebag him. Of course! I'm happy to! Douchebag! I guess to this dude the model is value for free. I think the only thing left to do is appeal to the D-bags wife

58:09 I encourage everyone to like her Hagen Hill photography page on Facebook. At last check she has three, she has a poultry through 234 likes then maybe the cheap D-bag will pony up under a new value for my wife's value model Lastly, this puts me past the coveted knighthood dollar amount. Please shake a rain stick for me to... We should shake the rain stick. Is he on the list? Well hold on where does he want to be Kansas City I'd get appointed it right way because we've been getting a little bit of flack from the UK. I still need some here Okay i'm gonna do Kansas City Perfect Now I don't know I think Grant does not seem to be on the list In fact neither do The Kraut Brothers interestingly enough

59:02 Okay, we'll put him on the list. Drago Oriato 592 Waltham Cross Hertfordshire My name is Diego and I have been a cheap bastard Please de douche me and give me some relocation karma as I'll be moving from Gitmo Nation east of FEMA region to New Jersey You guys are awesome. Hold on a second That's just that's the opening of a movie if ever seen one hello my name is Diego And I have been a cheap bastard Don't you think that's a good opening for a movie? That'd be perfect. Tarantino You've been de-douched You've got karma There ya go De-DOUCHED! Got Tarantino written all over it It does, I agree Aaron Bear and Wilkes Bear Pennsylvania No coincidence Spelled differently $500 Hey JCD here is the famous movie line for ya You sal put some cheese on that motherfucka man

1:00:04 What I don't know, I have no idea what that's from. I have no idea where that movie is from It has something to do with cheese and a burger Growing up in public is not easy homie Take it easy- oh he's talking to you Hey! Growing up in public isn't easy homie Take it easy on the old boy JCD and don't be so mean By the way, the segue into episode 590 second donation karma thing was flawless Okay So... I agree with that You're- stop it Tim Wachinski in Elkins, West Virginia. $333.33 ITM Oh no I'm sorry that's Dear John just sharing the love of my recent signing bonus he got a signing bonus. Very nice congratulations Tim Blue Jewels $333 from Arlington, Virginia just says ITM He's in Arlington hello well why would you say more?

1:01:04 I would have to agree with that. Yes, and actually if you knew the...I decided to protect him so i'm not telling the whole story about anything Good! I'll tell you later Alright I am NOT trying to keep it from anyone. Okay? I'll tell ya It came.. he sent this in an envelope with a return address of the Electronic Frontier Foundation San Francisco Okay So I don't know, there's something fishy about it. Sir Mark Barron of Tokyo... Oh Mark! Mark! 26218. Okay that's $10 for every mile he'll be running in the Tokyo marathon next Sunday 23rd February so he is running a 26-mile marathon and

1:01:53 WWE no agenda show emblazoned across my lycra so other you know it's like Carrie Shearn who disappeared from our listening listenership used to put it across her butt yeah so other producers should look at me along the way. So anyone in Tokyo go watch the race and watch for the guy running around with a No Agenda Show On his back, maybe it's front. I'm not well. I'm not out promoting no agenda I will be raising money for a home for all that we're building in Soma City A few miles from the exclusion zone in Fukushima things are still pretty tough there and kids cannot play outside So Dame Astrid and I are designing an indoor park check out my Indiegogo campaign for more deets deeds Just do a search for Tokyo on the indiegogo site And I will pop up

1:02:37 If you support my campaign, you'll be able to see me run live from Runkeeper account. The Runkeeper account route photos and heart size... Heart rate! Sorry, heart rate. It's got a big heart At least the NSA and my health insurance company will know where I am. I've been training for the last six months and lost almost 20 kilograms in the process Wow! 20 kilograms? That's pretty good Mark. 45-50 pounds That's a whole person. He wasn't a fat guy, was he? No! He was British Yeah well... Have almost run the length of Japan Noah Janda has been with me all the way You have great companions training companions far better than those friendly trendy spinning trainers The show just gets better and better thanks from Tokyo Sir Mark So for your edification it looks like Miss Mickey and I will be going to Tokyo in May

1:03:32 Miss Mickey has been offered a show and Our our barons over there in Tokyo are gonna hook us up. I think I'm going somewhere in March Detroit, I'm going to Detroit Finally again my got a speaking thing. Oh, it's I mean I'm gonna go to Detroit Why I'm gonna go up to Fukushima I'm gonna go get me some, I'm gonna get radiated. I'm gonna take a Geiger counter... I'm going to take a Geiger counter and take videos Oh my god it's clicking! You should This is going viral baby you're dying on the west coast Thank you very much sir Mark highly appreciate and not just the donation but also what you're doing for the kids and the home for all Very nice Was that? oh that was it That was the last one

1:04:32 Yeah, that was the closed our social executive producer segment and executive producer segment and the special executive producers segment for show 592 don't forget we have another show coming up on Thursday go to Dvorak org slash na Dvorak dot-org Slash n a and as always these credits are good where credits are accepted And remember our formula our formula is this we go out. We hit people in the mouth Yay, I heard apparently Eric is selling those 33 bags. No they're selling quite a few of them Oh there on the website on the knowage in the nation yes, I'm surprised he hasn't sent some samples out to us He he did ask me and then he said you want someone so yeah, just give me a couple of their I don't know if You sell him? I'm happy to have a few And then it'd be cool to get out Yeah, and then he came back said well the post office rejected your address. Yeah, he had my address from a year ago weird

1:05:53 So I have not actually received my bags yet. I'm looking forward to it. I did receive, um... I did receive yet another healthy surprise box. I didn't! Oh and that's also going- this will be the last one because i keep telling Joe to email me Because he's going- that's going to the old address and now the post office won't forward anymore But in there I had, and maybe you had this In a previous box The freshly wild kale joy with must eat mesquite and it's almost like the Lord is messing with me because then NPR has some deal with TED which I think ruins both brands quite honestly. Ted dot NPR dot org and they have really temp dot npr this is news to me oh yeah no so they have this whole show a whole TED show

1:06:49 where they're playing little snippets including Dr. Terry Walls! I start with greens because they're Greens, oh by the way can we stop? This is almost as bad as veggies... Greens Do you find greens to universally mean the same thing I hate veggies. I like vegetables, but I hate the term veggies. It's creepy. But greens? That's okay. Greens! They got some greens! Yeah, don't like them. It sounds like a pill. Hey you got some greens? Yeah, I've got some greens and blues and reds... Start with greens because they are rich in B vitamins, vitamins A C K and minerals. And those are two types of kale. Woo! Kale has the most nutrition per calorie The most nutrition per calorie John? That's gotta be... What does that even mean?! I don't know Of any plant. Of any plant

1:07:43 I find that hard to believe by the way. So do i but it's on TED, it's an NGO. It's a brassica, there's a cabbage, it's a form of cabbage By the way TED is kind of they have NGO status as well somehow you know what I mean? Not quite sure how they did it because they're very commercial but they have some kind That's why Ted NPR is beautiful. Two types of kale, kale has the most nutrition per calorie of any plant The B vitamins will protect your brain cells and your mitochondria Vitamins A and C support your immune cells vitamin K keeps your blood vessels and bones healthy And minerals are cofactors for hundreds of different enzymes in your body Why is she shouting? Well because she's programming you

1:08:32 Have more kale. Now when I heard that, not eat more kale but have more kale I felt it was time for this. So, have more kale! Have more kale! Have more kale! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! You will obey! I think that's working well... our Kale campaign. So you went to the couples thing?

1:09:10 And then you came back early and I made this. You felt the obligation to produce a clip. Well, I thought it worked! It's just okay. You guys are amazing! Alright, well I'm going to disprove that thesis. That we're amazing or kale is the most nutritious plant in the world? Kale is number one on the list. You know I pointed this out before and never really went into it in great depth but this whole thing started in England But with one public relations company that was hired by some kale growers who apparently couldn't sell this stuff, usually because it's gosh awful. You can make it edible but you have to actually go out of your way It's not like something that is naturally tasty If you beat it up and cook in bacon fat and put a lot of nuts in it First you gotta parboil it so you can chew it Then you cook it in bacon fat and get this bacony greasy gabagoo

1:10:12 or fry it, deep fat fry it so its like a crunchy potato chip you can choke it down. So these guys in England have done everything they can to promote kale as this bogus superfood and that's the word they used uh... and its taken off I mean this is what public relations does. It says right here on this Kalejoy freshly wild super foods is the name of the company we need to be the no agenda Non-governmental organization super just be a super food. I think we can be a super food Super Food on the brain We are the no agenda non governmental 100% natural antioxidant rich omega 3 & 4 vegan gluten free dairy free non GMO superfood podcast with no trans fats some mouthful

1:11:05 Okay, so you have who said the kale tastes like crap is what you're trying to say. It's really bad it's just horrible No, I've not had I've cooked at once using a blue. I have a lot of recipes I'm accumulating and I want to remind people if they haven't recipe for kale That's a little offbeat To put the subject line kale and send me an email with it with the recipe And I don't want just a copy of something from food calm to Dvorak. You know John at Dvorak org it's not that hard to find my email and And I'll put a little no agenda book together at some point when i have enough of these recipes. I should be able to cut and paste something pretty quickly But most of these recipes are the same You parboil the kale five minutes so you can beat it up a little bit Take all those stringy stems and stuff out, then cook in bacon fat with bacon chips in there maybe throw on some walnuts and choke it down while its still warm

1:11:58 That's what she said. Salt and pepper. All right, onward, onward, got an interesting email from one of our producers who was very familiar with the drone campaign this relates to the 250 million dollar WordPress blog from Pierre Drive My Car and Grand Green Waldo Raph and Laura Poitras oh by the way before I even mention that that James and Patricia Poitras donated $20 million to the Institute for Brain Research at MIT a couple years back. I didn't know that Laura Poitras came from money! That seems... if you can throw money at just a research operation, to the tune of 20 million? That means you've got a lot of money And here's what was in it and its family money It's from his parents Oh yeah she is loaded She's a rich girl Yes she is but what's interesting

1:12:57 After hearing Bob, we talked with Pat over at dinner and we realized that we could help make this happen faster than they'd hoped. The Porteous' have committed $20 million to support research on major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and other psychiatric disorders at the center." And they say one of the reasons is that we were happy to do this as one of our own daughters was diagnosed with bipolar disease Now they don't say which one Oh really? Uh-huh. Interesting, huh? Yeah I wonder if it's Laura... It could be! Could be you know she the way she acts I mean that would explain a lot of the hassle she goes through when she comes to across the border your pretty on the verge of having a nervous breakdown flying overseas anyway

1:13:54 And you come in, you're a little uptight. The guy says ask you a question and you... What? I'm not doing anything! Or she snaps at him If you snap at one of these guys with a snide comment something that a bipolar person might do You know just as some mean sort of... Boy your in lockup for hours Oh yeah. That's not really lock up in a closet but or a room... So anyway this huge well-funded venture cranks out one bullcrap drone story let me just read what our producer Matt says

1:14:33 Hey, you know switching SIM cards does make sense but not with drones. When I was in Afghanistan high-level targets would give their sat phones to low level idiots the idiot would be given a message to read over the phone so they would be targeted and not the high level guy it seems that makes sense to me too by the way since 2004 The US is using newer technology that allows them to clone captured SIM cards often A group of suspects will be stopped and blindfolded all the phones will be taken sim cards cloned then returned to the people Originally it would take hours to triangulate a person, then it would only give you a general area. With the newer stuff... The clone sims took 15-20 minutes to pinpoint a specific building They caught on to this and gave their sim cards to nobodies or idiots so they'd be thrown off This switch of SIM cards only makes sense when there are boots on the ground to throw them off

1:15:22 If they capture a nobody, then they will release them. Switching SIM cards doesn't make any sense if they're being droned They would just switch the SIM cards again Matt says this is total bullcrap and it's also not the way it works There are real boots on the ground for a lot of these dronings But as I was thinking about this and the Poitras thing And really our conversation...and I kind of think I misunderstood you on Thursday show Or we were just in completely different vibes about what this thing is and I think you were looking at it from a journalistic standpoint of This is what you come up with. I think that maybe that's am I categorizing that right where you just saw this blog and went? What

1:16:02 Well, that's what I did. You were...I don't know what you're talking about? What I was talking about is when you know what is the journalistic side where I think a lot of journalists yourself included as you're in more in the milieu of writers and journalists than I am. I mean I didn't get the invite to Edelman and told not write about it. Now I don't hang out with John Markoff Okay, so I think you're more in that milieu and i think there's a lot of it's like like poets You know you sit around grousing about the other guy. Yeah look at these assholes That's what they came up with can I be a little right? There is an element of that okay What's the milieu like you said this exactly what it is So I'm looking at this greenwald thing um and It hit me the other day He is just a new Did you come up with a new name for him

1:16:54 Did you say Greenball? Yes, Greenball. Glenn Greenbald. He is just a new cog in the wheel of the military-industrial complex and I say this because if you look at the intelligence community there's about 16 different agencies and we've probably identified maybe 12 of them i think we can identify But they're right down to this, you know our friend's special...our friends' girlfriend's special area in the State Department. I mean there's all these little...everybody's got an intelligence unit right? Yep Now if you look at it all but one of them are related to one way or the other The Pentagon or the Department of Defense Only one of them is a civilian agency and that's the CIA

1:17:52 Exactly. So they really are outsiders, we have no idea what their budget is They of course really do run the wet operations They do kill people, they're doing the real work and I think what happened Is that we started this military-industrial complex in the 60s is when we were warned about it And I believe that What we're looking at right now including Glenn Greenwald, is just this whole thing is spinning apart because we're withdrawing from portions of the Middle East. So what do we have to do? It's like 60 or 70 or 80 billion dollars a year at least

1:18:38 that goes around with all the... it's contractors, right? Edward Snowden did not work for the NSA. He worked for Booz Allen Hamilton and those guys have six seven eight billion dollars worth of contract by themselves so this is a huge thing that has to keep going and the only way to keep this going ...of course we point this out all the time on the show.. The only way to keep this going is to keep people afraid now the terror is coming to the homeland you'll be very worried about about all of this And I found some numbers and I found it in... Go ahead. Before you get those numbers, I want to throw something in what you just said Just for the listeners as an aside The people who promote this idea that you should just be sitting in your house watching television afraid of your own shadow need to be When you see somebody doing that to you and if they're a politician or anything else You should either call them on it or vote them out of office These people are evil Anyway go on

1:19:37 Well, I did something that we tend to do from time to time. And in fact, I did that at the start of this show but i went back and listened to the relevant portion of Eisenhower's farewell speech where he specifically talks about the military-industrial complex and warns us for it. There were a couple things...and its only 1 minute 50 seconds you know? I've cut down all the bits and pieces This is kind of nice. It's a dramatized version John. A little bit of music in there I think we should listen again to what he actually told us and what he actually said, and look at some of the numbers that he's talking about in 1961. Ladies and gentlemen the President of The United States Good evening my fellow Americans We now stand ten years past a midpoint of a century That has witnessed four major wars among great nations I love the little piano bit It makes it more dramatic

1:20:39 I'll see what out comes out. Until the latest of our world conflict, the United States had no armaments industry American makers of plowshares could with time and as required make swords as well Now i had to look this up... What the heck is the president talking about? Plowshares and swords... Swords to plowshares is a term used apparently before I was born is the concept in which military weapons or technologies are converted to peaceful civilian applications. And what Eisenhower says in this speech, and this was a televised speech and he's saying be careful people! The American plowshares so this is our civilian industry can actually reverse the process and start to make swords which of course is exactly what happened

1:21:36 All of our aircraft, our vehicle industry, our weapons industry were just making little shotguns and cars to toodle around in and planes to fly. Bombs! Now it's bombs and fighters and tanks so yes he was correct in his assumption And before this he said we had never had this in the United States But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment." Alright... Three-and-a-half million men and women in 1961? I got the 1960 census at that time there were 179,323,175 people in America

1:22:32 Right, roughly half the population we have today. So if you... I don't know if it's fair to do this but can we then say that by today's numbers that would be 7 million people in total? Yeah, I think that would be fair and I would wager it's a lot higher than that right now Oh! I thought you had the number. I don't have THAT number! I betcha there is more... I dunno what it'd be but its not seven Well why dont'you look that up This is a way of looking that up. Thank you. Oh, yes I care Let me try it right you try it give it a shot hold on I'm gonna rewind just a little bit He says some more interesting stuff here and do this keep going three and a half million men And women are directly engaged in the defense establishment now this conjunction of any immense military Establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience

1:23:23 The total influence, economic, political even spiritual is felt in every city, every state house and every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications Our toil resources and livelihood are all involved so is the very structure of our society In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence whether sought or unsought by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel

1:24:23 the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. Now I didn't know that he had said, So that security and liberty may prosper together because that is pretty much the only piece from this entire speech which is left over and it's continuously abused by politicians saying we need to find a balance between security and liberty which of course the president recently took to a new extreme by saying security and your freedom did he say this you say your your freedom or your Liberty Liberty not even liberty just liberty your liberty liberty yeah but but the we are there this has now happened and I think that it's good to revisit from time to time

1:25:18 this is now what is it 40 years later? What are we 50 years later where are we yeah, 50 years later here. We are and it's got the number appears to be about the extrapolation with seven million six actually no that can't be that makes no sense we have two million people with classified status alone well this is all specifically the defense Anything you hook directly to the Defense Department and it in its industries. Hmm must be a lot more robots Well, I think there's they're taking a lot more money at the top that I think I don't know well after the war World War two I think they're pretty much fully staffed. I don't know I'm just telling us what only numbering come up with like I can keep digging I'm not gonna do it for today no No, it's okay. Have a couple of things that I want you to listen to something um

1:26:14 I want you to listen to something and tell me what you hear in this within this clip. It's it's the clip is called Listen Carefully This is the somebody describing a skeleton run on the Olympics Mmm, I don't think I could hear where your... I didn't hear any of this Very very difficult. I clipped it down very difficult here Yeah, it's hard to hear but I'm telling you something in here now play How did this even happen flub and see if this is the clip? I have why done for Sam mislabeled this one And which is the just the part that I'm trying to get you to listen to can go is in Toronto No, not that one. She knows try a weird flub

1:27:07 Taxi drivers in France may have won their first... No, that's not it either. Damnit! I have something Zoom... How about zoom zero zero three seven? That can't be it either. Zoom is the social media report about the Olympics. So here it is selection normalized and boosted this is the same thing I'm trying to get you listen to off this clip It's looking good You don't hear him say fucking no You're looking good. We have played this to the family and everybody hears the F Really? I can't hear that, let me listen again Do you think- Let's listen one more time Yeah i'm hearing it Show me your tits Yeah I heard it Okay very funny

1:28:19 So I'm watching the Olympics. I never would have played that unless you brought this clip up! Yeah, very funny... That's good. I'll try to dig up some stuff like that on you so let's go with Here's what here's where the Olympics boiled down play Zoom 37 Hey Meredith, you know those inappropriate selfies you've been sending me lately? We're talking about something different all together here. The selfie is the thing at the Winter Games! This Sochi selfie yes it has its own name popping up all over social media Here are a couple of them. Two Norwegian athletes gonna use their heads and put them together To wish a happy Valentine's Day How about American slope style skier Nick Geppert making swift work of his bronze medal fame tweeting a valentine to Yes Taylor Swift

1:29:08 On Instagram, Team USA rider Jamie Anderson won gold this week in slope style. But first she tore up a little fresh powder with some of her friends and American alpine skier Julia Mancuso lit up Instagram with this cool kind of artistic twist on the opening ceremony A look at the medal count shows host nation Russia is in the lead with the United States and The Netherlands not far behind Germany and Norway also in the mix But you ask who's winning this social conversation around these winter games? I'm asking! Oh, the social conversation... But wait Adam. You're asking who's winning the social- I'm not asking this Why does this guy assume that I give a crap

1:29:55 I'm very interested in who's winning the social conversation. As a digital prophet... ...in the mix, but you ask who is winning the social conversation? No no this isn't-I know who is asking this! The advertisers They're saying, hey who's winning the social conversation? Because I want to advertise there. This guy is talking to the advertisers. Who is winning this social conversation around these winter games? Well Facebook tells us that US is clearly in the lead with posts likes and updates Topic number one is figure skating The United States though if you look at the map does have some pretty decent competition from Great Britain and from Canada Great Britain's topic of choice is snowboarding

1:30:33 The big surprise as you look here is that the Philippines ranks 6th in Olympic Facebook conversation. The Philippines figure skater Michael Martinez is the country's first ever winter Olympian and no surprise it's his sport that is topic number one. Really, this was completely unnecessary! This is on NBC? Who cares?! Yeah, well place the part two of it to see how dumb it really is. Well what did- How do you? Oh there's a second part okay. So after we've accomplished this mission in billions of kilobytes of online chatter We were wondering who- Billions of kilobytes of online chatter

1:31:13 Hold on a second, I gotta write that down. I got billions of kilobytes of online chatter for you baby right here in my pants. But right now it's sage kotzenberg his name saw the biggest spike in Yahoo searches He's gone from a virtual unknown out to do they have graphics and charts to go with this and like oh, yeah Oh Yeah, this is loaded to the gills of graphics

1:31:49 Giant maps. Katzenberg brought his followers along for the ride, tweeting throughout his winning day and afterward getting love from all over the world including this tweet from Kobe Bryant Wow! Let's leave you tonight with one last word from the opening ceremony after The Cauldron was lit the first lady of the United States Michelle Obama summed it all up pretty nicely in a tweet writing thanks US Olympic team for inspiring me and our nation's kids Meredith Brought to You by Visa Was that a piece of crap? Yeah, it's... I told you. It's like-I can't watch it anymore! Facebook and Twitter plugs up the butt?! And when does the Twitter has really got to be shut down? The Twitter? Ooh he tweeted this! He tweeted that! Ooh he tweeted congratulations! Ooh he tweeted your ugly! No, no, I think that's all fine. That's actually the Tweeter thing I'm okay with

1:32:47 I'm not. No, I'm okay with that because it's... Well, I know you are! You just said that. Yeah but it's different It's a different thing who cares? Let me do one last little thing here just to get you back on track So Obama and Hollande got together in Washington right yeah So I have two very short clips. One is what Obama said to Hollande and then one that Hollande said to Obama, and I think the contrast is... let's use the word telling. Okay so we'll use Obama to Hollande first Yeah, play that and then a break. Okay and then we'll go to the next one all right here we go. Standing together and using our freedom to improve the lives of not only our citizens but people around the world is what makes France not only America's oldest ally but also one of our closest allies Wait a minute! I've heard that line before... yeah well it's what he says so now here's what Hollande said to him France in the United States are two countries That's right And one of them speaks French

1:33:55 Wow, he says what is his line was there are two countries? Well this all good. This all this visit of course comes amidst a lot of stuff happening in Africa And a lot of it in the French portion of the African Empire What used to be known as the African Empires and I've done my diligence. I've really tried to look into as much as possible starting with the drone base that we really knew nothing about in Niger or Niger or making plans for Niger And I went back and found a clip from January of last year when the news about this so-called drone base, which now is apparently huge and in full operation. This is how the shill woman from the Department of Defense answered the question about rumors in the press of the drone base in Niger.

1:34:49 Dory, it has been widely reported that the U.S is eager to build a drone base in Niger to the extent you can tell us at an open hearing Has that base begun construction or even been completed? Are drones being launched from that base and how many US personnel are there And we know these questions are scripted. I think he did a little too easy on the read there to start We do not have a drone base in Niger So hopefully that is helpful what I can say is that

1:35:26 commensurate with the growing threat in the region, Africa Command as well as the intelligence community is very interested in increasing resources that are focusing on the region to improve our understanding of what is happening there and we are seeing a growth in Intelligence resources of all kinds. So this is how you skirt around the question, there's a growth in intelligence resources of all kinds okay? To include ISR what you're referring to in part I believe is news that stemmed from the recent conclusion of a status-of-forces agreement with the government of Niger

1:36:06 This is the type of foundational agreement that we pursue in many different countries in Africa, that have regular relationships with Africa Command for purposes of exercises and other activities. So that was what made it into the news and then an extrapolation about a drone base from there but we are certainly... A news report? That was an exaggeration. It does happen. Unusual Yeah okay so a year later of course we know that its true And that both of you were just full of crap. Can you remember? This is one of the clips I had on the last show, I believe about the drone that was at the show before no The last show that's why I went in looking for information right now. Yeah what do you remember which clip it was um yeah, I can probably find it hold on a second because I got I I was as shocked as you are that we have a base there and his base on this clip and

1:37:04 Well, so I figured at home... I think it was on VanCat. I'm just trying to say what the source of this information was because now that it points out an obvious lie you don't build a drone base overnight. I think it was this one. Well French and African troops do have a mandate from the United Nations to use force if there's direct threat to the civilian population So for example, a Muslim is being lynched by an... No, I don't think its that one USA in Africa with French maybe it's that one? Let me see. This has several military bases. So looking at the map then, Armin just remind us where they've cooperated so far and where they may cooperate in the future? Well they cooperated a lot in Mali because the US had just set up a drone base in neighboring Niger. Yeah there you go! That's that's where it came from uh... and I understand why its in Niger because we're thats right in the middle of Mali as this clip said to the north thats where we have the ever-so dangerous Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb

1:38:02 And then to the south we have Nigeria, which of course is Boko Haram. But in both cases it's the French. I thought Boko Haram was... No they're in Nigeria. Wasn't Boko Haram Kenya? They may be there too but I think their base is in or look all of this is probably made up I mean, who knows? Yeah. Okay we can go with that right now apparently we also have a drone base in Ethiopia because now i just started really looking into it like where are we In Africa so we have Ethiopia We know we have Djibouti um Afrikom which is mentioned in my clip Is still in Germany and this Right This is what's very strange That we haven't... Because you'd think they could put it in Libya or any of these other places that we kind of own Yes in Germany Right But It's still in Germany

1:38:56 But we have the eyes in the air. We have the eyes in the air and of course, the only two countries that should...that we need to really be looking at although it turns out that may not be true is the two on the West Clark 7 list which would be I think Sudan and Somalia these are really on our New World Order lists But somehow and obviously it's BP, Total, Elf Oil. Is that the other French one? Yeah, the French one. And if you really look at all these countries they were all run by up until late 60s or 70s by Britain and France. We didn't have a lot to do in there

1:39:38 And I'm starting to see that not only are we extracting the minerals, of course we're extracting Chinese first. Like oh hello Chinese thank you for building the road and infrastructure get out! Then were taking over that but there's also and this is what i think the French in the British are seeing because these countries are growing there is a huge market now in selling gasoline to African countries You know, people are getting cars and the infrastructure is really building there. It's no longer just jungle bunnies running around chucking spears. These are real countries with real economies that are going to make a big difference and I think everything is shifting over there not just for extracting but for selling and building and buying and doing business. You're gonna get letters for that? For what spear-chuckin' sand bunnies, jungle bunnies? Yeah

1:40:35 I'm making a point. I know that you are but do listeners to the show don't understand how you make your points? Well, then they should all right. I think this is disgusting Yeah, they're gonna gripe they're gonna gripe. I'm just telling in advance. No, I don't so I want to hear your grousing about it Oh, that's fine people who understand that spine and you can kind of apply this to what's happening in the Middle East if you look hold on a second Let me help here So you don't get these letters what Adam jus did was portray a stereotype of the African which is used as A model for the elites in so far as their predisposed definition Of the situation. Yes, and that would be exactly how they think and what he was doing was essentially reflecting that when he uses this usage

1:41:30 Didn't bother me, but I know that some people would be upset because they're already on your case. It's fine everybody can be on my case That's fine But i'm just saying I just wanted to... Because I know what you're doing and the way you do it is it seems very elegant actually so continue Thank You! I am convinced that a large portion certainly of the American public but probably the European public as well When they heard about the shootings in the shopping mall in Kenya, I have a feeling a lot of them went what? They got shopping malls in Kenya. I really it's a modern shop. Yeah, it's very modern. You know movies from it Looks like any crappy shopping mall anywhere exactly they got popcorn They got a movie theater. They got to give the games out front the movie theater Cineplex Cineplex Thank you. They've got

1:42:25 What's the t-shirt shop where you buy your skateboard hipster gear? Yeah, a T-shirt shop is what it was. Well let me do a little aside about this. Let me do an aside about this For example in Asia there are different kinds of shopping malls and I'm one of these guys when I travel I don't sit around the hotel I get somebody to take me shopping Your staff Just not a staff usually somebody's hauling me over there for some reason and I kind of demand an escort To take me to places unless it's like Korea which I know the town enough. I can just drive I can get on a bus, and I've done that just bus around But you there are shopping malls that make many of our shopping most look very sick by comparison And some of them are very weird though There's a shopping mall, and I believe this is in one. I think this isn't oh

1:43:19 I'm trying to think either Jakarta or some place like that. But the outside of the mall is like they're different, it's just like a merchandise mart in Chicago It's a big building as opposed to a strip mall and the building has maybe eight floors of shopping And it's more vertical than horizontal because of space limitations So this shopping mall takes on a slightly different quality but its still a shopping mall and they have the same stuff They have the same perfumes. They usually have a better selection of Asian electronics than any place you've ever seen, and cameras etc., in different colors you've never seen and they're pretty modern. It's just like people shouldn't be thinking like that there are no shopping malls in Nairobi

1:44:00 Or any of these countries really. That, of course is the point that I'm making it's the same point that I make that people somehow then this is exactly the same Russia is just filled with a bunch of hairy fat women with drunken vodka slurping dudes with bear hats on who hate gays Yeah, well besides that though there's a lot of pleasant Russians. Actually... I'll give you a little in the morning report. A report came out where is it here? I have it here Americans okay who did this report Washington DC oh I just got to open this up to find out who did the actual report This is Gallup! Oh there you go Gallop poll would you say that's reasonably no more corrupt than the rest

1:44:48 I would say it's probably the least of the corrupt groups. When i see Gallup, they have a trust. They're trustworthy in the trust sense. February 13 2014 America's views of Russia Putin are worst in years clear majority view the Russian president and his nation unfavorably Yeah! No kidding. So the propaganda machine does its job? As host nation, Russia dominates the world stage at the Winter Olympics in Sochi Americans clearly do not think highly of the country or its president Vladimir Putin Putin and Russia scored the highest unfavorable rating 63% and 60%, respectively that Gallup has recorded for them in the past two decades

1:45:34 20 years good work a human rights watch. Yeah, it's exactly what you wanted well there you go now here's what's funny I saw him I don't know why this keeps getting lost in the conversation because we maybe because We don't hound our pound on it enough I'm listening to somebody else's podcast and they and the guy goes them with this thesis that we have cuz I guess it got To him about the gay thing in Russia is overblown and the Russians are just what they are. I mean, they're nothing's you know they haven't gone out of their way to do one thing or another about gays coming over to visit Soshi and Soshi is not that bad a situation reality." And the comment was why would we do that? Why would... What is the point of making the Russian look like a bunch of saps and creeps it's always forgotten at the Russians have Snowden! Yeah

1:46:27 It's about Snowden. Give us Snowden! No, not giving you Snowden... Oh really? Okay well here and that's how it began. Here watch this. It all tracks right back to Snowden Just to show you how great the NOAGENDA global audience is I got a tweet from someone who was watching RTL4, which is the commercial broadcaster in the Netherlands. And he said oh my god RTL 4 on their newscast used the same drag queens for a Sochi report as NBC used! The same drag queens in the same sorry ass club with the same sorry-ass story about how gays are persecuted in Sochi

1:47:14 Yeah, it's a package. It's a package exactly and I wonder who did the package do we know who closed it? I'll bet you was one of these NGOs I think it's well um I don't think it was it wasn't a package per se because the And it's useless for me to play cuz all in Dutch They had their own reporter there, but I think that they have a liaison. This is part of the Human Rights Watch liaison there. It's like okay NBC tomorrow we'll be going to the Viking Bar and then RTL we can go on Thursday? Yes okay very good! We'll set y'all up

1:47:50 Well, it's not a... I don't mean it's a package by like a packaged package where is a complete product. Right But one of these you here's the B-roll Here's the script Here's the kind of thing You know one of those things we can have your local guy doing their report I think is more common now than a pure Package that has completely done from beginning to end right? And meanwhile what I found the real news to be Is that Egypt has apparently reached a deal with Russia for Russian military equipment, which so we have said you know screw you guys. We're not going to give you the F-16s were not going to give you some helicopters and Russia Putin goes to Egypt makes a three billion dollar deal which apparently Saudi Arabia is going to fund

1:48:39 And no one is talking about this. I find this to be something that needs to be evaluated We are giving money, of course that's how it works You know we give money to Egypt and then they don't even get a check Don't we just cut it directly to the contractor? I would presume Egypt doesn't get a check or Bitcoin No, no. Negative bitcoins. One bitcoin! So now Saudi Arabia has said well you know we're kind of interested in that Egypt thing over there because they're always involved in everything and they're going to give three billion dollars to the Russians for MiG-29s and mi-35 helicopters some light weapons some ammo

1:49:28 And, but no. Bob Costas has pink eye. What are we doing in America people? What are we doing anywhere with any kind of news? Oh the Dutch! So of course the Dutch are sweeping the speed skating, which is great. You know we have I think the men won gold silver bronze women gold silver bronze Putin this is what Putin's over there sucking up to our queen our hottie queen from Argentina and our king King Pils who's drunk. This guy's drunk all the time he's like uh-uh I'm at the Olympics It's it's and that's all that they can report on nothing else is important. It is such a big distraction from reality But it's hungry do the same thing where we watch the reports together guy comes in first a guy come with a great story I comes in second guy an American comes in third they interview the American yeah, of course How was it coming how was it coming in third? He wasn't exciting Yeah, I was excited glad I got third

1:50:30 So I think these things and then of course we had the hockey thing which would be, I guess we got a ruling and we beat Russia because of some technicality. Well it wasn't that it was uh yeah the net was out of the hole and by rule you can't there's gold doesn't count is just a rule so you think that all of this that the entire gang up is only about Snowden? I think so, yeah. Well no okay... Also the Syria because Russia is a bunch of things but Snowden was the cherry on the top of the thing that's when we let it rip. Yeah come on! I think it has to do with Syria because Syria has essentially been saved if you really want to look at it objectively The Syrian people they all would have been dead All bombed to smithereens like Libya and you wouldn't have seen any of it were not for the Russians

1:51:26 I truly think Russia saved more Syrian people than we're pretending to with sending, you know al-Qaeda fighters over there. It's just... Yeah! I agree with that. Yeah because..I mean the Russians are full of crap because they've been watching a lot of RT and You know they're full of crap i mean they're then they're trying to do their best They can't with the propaganda their propaganda machine which doesn't even come close to ours We're so much better Yes It's just ludicrous and I think they're flummoxed by the whole thing. They're kind of like, oh god what do we do now? And they just hope to God that... We are two guys who try to compare notes on these things and see what the Russians are up too

1:52:10 So what our State Department is up to in terms of countering what the Russians are trying to do right? And then there's the Chinese issue which the Russians are also kind of a wild card in that because they're kind Of friends with the Chinese, but then again. They're not because they share a border and they really don't like each other It's it's interesting But yeah The Russians are outflanked by us but lots just got to be frustrating If you're them, yeah. And I think that's part of the reason that Putin is always out there with his shirt off You know your president can't ride a motorcycle Your president can't ride...you ever see him throw a baseball? He can throw a baseball! He can do a shoot-a-shoot a basketball big deal So thank you for pointing this out This is and by the way all of this could be solved very easily All Russia has to do is hire the Curry Dvorak consulting group We know how to do this for you

1:52:57 They are using Cold War tactics of look at my chest, look at the bear I shot. Look at the fish I caught. You have to be way on the other end of things to impress the world stage this is all they know how to do Right, this is all 50s stuff. Thank you! You know first of all Vlad has got to start speaking English he's got and you'll get someone... He just gotta do it. You are behind you have zero...You need to speak the language of the kids and that's what I'm all the kids speak English because that's a popular culture just learn a few words tweet it we could start there We can start there now where's Russia's first lady?

1:53:44 And we've got Michelle Obama. Excuse me, by the way this counts! The $12,000 dress the celebrities at her uh...at the state dinner? This stuff counts on the world stage Putin you get your babe out there get her done gussied up and some you know Tom Ford- You wear the tom ford give her some Gaultier Gucci whatever Versace you got stores there you gotta get it gussyed up man Start talking the way I it's the way. I see it even though It doesn't really work because after spending 50 billion dollars on Gussing up Sochi he gets a lot of it He gets a lot of flack from his political competition as a spendthrift. He just saw you guys these you He's not a she's not a good Soviet or soviet-russian Reached he's too flamboyant which is not true and the Russians actually have a history of flamboys Catherine the Great

1:54:45 Peter the Great, all these The Greats Putin the Great they have with all these in the past They you know they would the French and the Russians are very close to each other Historically and they would always copy each other. The French love the Russian's in terms of their art and architecture And it goes the other way and so when Catherine the great got in she just built a place up with All kinds of fancy palaces and before that they've done this for just all the time until Stalin got in and then he just built everything in this kind of horrible Soviet block design. Let me give you an example on that, so on this ski slope style thing they have a big babushka doll on the ski slope. A nesting doll? Yeah! They need chicks to pop out of that at some point like babes

1:55:29 Not just another wooden doll, you know this is modernize a little bit people. Well Russia does have that doll school because there's some of the stunt guys would bounce off of it I know The best thing Putin has going for him in this fight America against Russia Putin against Obama Yeah part whatever It's clearly his agent of change Joe Biden He's working for the Russians Did you hear what he said just the other day? You have a clip. I do! It always surprises me when we don't have the degree of optimism we should about this state and nation, and in spite of whose president... In spite of who's in Congress. In spite of whose president?! That's your boss dude! Does he realize that you can say in spite of the President? He doesn't know a lot to be put down. Does he even know what he is saying?

1:56:29 In spite of the president. Wow, Joe! Pick up your ruble check Well he deserves it for that Meanwhile they need to upgrade They gotta modernize They gotta bring it up to the 21st century That's just old-fashioned stuff I mean its funny for us We get a kick out of seeing Putin doing some dumb things Flying with a goose in an ultralight is an example But yeah, I know all of that is it's you're right 1950s definitely got he got definitely Jobbed on this so she think because when you see that when you watch Russia today's a version of the Olympics and they of course are you know promoting it

1:57:18 They show some stuff though that is like I never saw. Some of the fireworks displays and some of the cute little town that's there, they're roaming around it's really quite attractive to be a cool place to visit but i would never get that impression from any American coverage. I saw that... let me see do I have it here? So they were misusing the global warming in Sochi Yeah, because I guess they don't have snow or it's above freezing and so now that is being misused as oh yes well there is global warming and its ruining the Olympics. Well isn't Sochi a place that has palm trees? Isn't that kind of like doesn't happen there? It's a resort town on the Balkan...or was it the Black Sea? Yes! Its a resort village that they built up

1:58:15 I don't know what they're going to do with it now because of all those extra buildings, but yeah. It's all built up and it's a summer thing so probably doesn't get that cold. All the skiing stuff is 45 minutes away. But we're getting a ton of course in Here's the situation in the United States we have a pretty big cold snap which is not unprecedented but it's very annoying for people on the west coast and southern states. In the meantime, in Europe and the United Kingdom is flooding The Dutch claim they have the warmest winter ever which I also don't think is true then people are using

1:58:59 the example of it being very warm in Australia, of course this is their summer. It's exactly polar opposite but CBS really is taking this to the max with this... you know the Michou Kaku? The crazy Asian scientist guy that they bring in from time-to-time? That guy with white hair? Yes! That guy! And he is a... He's not a meteorologist I think He's a physicist. Physicist, right but he is now in charge of propagating the message you need to listen to this report combating the global cooling that we believe we are in

1:59:38 Charlie Rose just muttering, mm-mm-mm throughout the whole thing while Kaku was talking out of his butt. As another major storm system hits the south and the east subzero temperatures still grip the Midwest and Western Oregon and Washington State were hit with unusual snow Northern California just got about 20 inches of rain from a pineapple Express but that state is far from ending its drought emergency Question about that. When do you have enough rain to end the drought emergency? What do you really need to end it in California I was listening to you, your...I don't know if you listen to her normally but this the congressional dish with Jen Brainy. Yeah i listened to her but sometimes it get annoyed by her Obama bot-ism She's a bit of a bot but that's what she does go through this stuff and she went through the farm bill yes I heard when she did I realized there something she talks about which is the drought

2:00:35 funds that if you apparently declare a drought of any sort... This is exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, how much money can you get? You get a bunch of money so California if it can do it just stays in the drought no matter how much rain it gets That's what I was thinking It's a scam Yes and its federal funding scam yes this way to get money from the feds But they have to pretend, you know, oh my god it's a drought. Oh yeah and then that gives them an excuse to jack up the rates again They never lower their rates by the way It could be flooding. What do you think Charlie meant by a pineapple express? Is that a meteorological term? It's any storm that comes in over Hawaii and then comes up and picks up tropical moisture, drops it in California is called the Pineapple Express I keep following this and also see the Federal Register

2:01:31 And every single day there's the president signed disaster relief for this state, for Georgia, for Florida, for California, for New Jersey. It's like billions and billions of dollars and I think you're right as long as you keep claiming it's a drought no matter how hard it rains...I mean I'm expecting zero fruits and greens from California this year! You guys must be dying out there! I can't believe what I'm talking to you about! You must be dead The way it sounds. I'm looking out here and everything looks pretty green, CBS News. Now here's apparently a whopper coming in that's gonna drop a couple of feet on us and it looks like the jet stream is shifting enough to bring all this Alaskan air down filled with moisture and just flood us. I mean just nail us! And I guarantee after that's over there'll still be drought. Oh, there's still going to be drought? Yeah now you're right

2:02:22 Here's the rest of this report. ...brain from a pineapple express, but that state is far from ending its drought emergency CBS News contributor Michio Kaku is a physics professor... Which means he knows nothing professionally professorally about climate At the City College of New York good morning Morning So what's causing all this? Well the wacky weather could get even wackier Vah! That's when I perk up Holy crap, when did he become a broadcaster? The zoo. Morning Zoo. Hey everybody the Wacky Wiggy Wacker! Woooo baby yeah! Come on my daddy was a beetle

2:02:59 Don't know why I said that but that's what they do at the morning What we're seeing is that the jet stream and the polar vortex are becoming unstable Stable instability of historic proportions historic proportions. I will give you no backup No proof, but it's historic trust me now think of the polar vortex as a bucket a swirling bucket of cold air However, the walls are weakening cold air is spilling listen to Rose going yeah Yeah Yeah, he's a robot and he's just lapping it up. ...bucket of cold air however the walls are weakening. Cold air is spilling out over the walls of the bucket and the question is why? Why is this polar vortex weakening? This is like romper room!

2:03:50 It's a big bucket, but the walls are weakening and the air is spilling over the thin walls. The question is why? Why? Let's ask Doobie! Doobie can tell us... We think it's because of the gradual heating up on the North Pole. Oh, it's the gradual heating of the north- we think It's the gradual heating of the North Pole. The North Pole is melting! It's melting! Global warming, global warming! I just woke up. Kaku, did you say something? Global warming! Melting... Listen to Rose in the background it's hilarious global warming The North Pole is melting that excess heat This is this is the programming see Charlie Rose is very tired very very tired man He does too much work There are only a few guys but let me go aside for a second

2:04:43 He does his regular interview show, which takes a lot of effort. There's a big staff he has to coordinate and then he has got to talk to all these guys and if you've done any interview show over the years, you know that most people are not even interesting They can't converse You have to carry the show It is like a lot of work And so you get pooped That is enough work for anyone guy believe it or not Even though its only hour a day Oh yeah! No...it's a lot of work It's a lot of work. It doesn't look like it, but it is. And to do a morning show which means you have to get up at four... Earlier! No earlier!! He's up three man definitely Three in the morning and then you gotta prep and they got to put you through makeup and then you gotta go over the show and that's an hour-and-a-half show so you've gotta be lively for The Housewives So he is in a constant buzz coma buzz

2:05:37 Yeah, and this is what's so beautiful about it because the trigger words are ice has melted. North Pole is melting. The pole is warming and then you can hear him go, oh global warming which is what most people are programmed to think This is programming in process It's beautiful... I'm Sir Richard Attenborough And here we see a fine specimen. A specimen known as the Morning Newscaster, The Newscaster... I wish you could find the clip of him where he's making a pass at that woman! I have that, I have it We have the newscaster The newscaster has been programmed over years to believe in angro-protobugger global warming That's the stuff man made themselves

2:06:28 And when he gets the key words, he literally will wake up and say global warming. Weakening we think is because of the gradual heating-up of the North Pole The North Pole is melting Global Warming! Tell me about this sexuality it's in your DNA That's right That is the creepiest clip ever. Angelina Jolie, tell me about your sexuality. It's in your DNA. Global warming! The excess heat generated by all this warm water is destabilizing this gigantic bucket of cold air weakening this low-pressure region causing cold air to spill out over the United States okay that's the irony. That was the irony of the

2:07:14 bucket and the whatever. The heating could cause gigantic storms of historic proportions okay so the irony is the heating can cause gigantic storms of epic proportion. Can you repeat that please? No I'm kidding, we get this spilling out of the bucket right yeah because right No, I don't get that. When has this happened before? The spilling out of the bucket right? Could you repeat that please? No, I'm kidding! We get the spilling out of the bucket right so when we see this snow in the Midwest and the South why then is California been the driest on record? Look at the snowpack in the Sierras any skiers knows out there they have so little snow pack huge drought

2:07:56 Because a lot of the weather, the warm moisture-laden air which should go to California is being diverted into Canada where it freezes. Oh yes! Finally! Damn Candanavians stealing our snow I knew it. And it falls on your backyard, so in some sense there's a link between what is happening in California as the jet stream diverts, diverts the moisture laden air over Canada and then it snows on the United States? I'm trying to follow you, I'm really trying to follow you but does this explain why Niagara Falls is frozen and why its warm in Sochi? It's all connected to the same thing correct?

2:08:41 Okay, it's all good. What is that same thing this guy off the air? No no he's genius in fact they're going to Compliment him on his broadcast professionalism. It's connected look at globally Globally although I'm Charlie Rose globally you see that England is flooding right now Latin America Is warm while California has a drought we're talking about instabilities caused by the erratic weather Stream what can be done about it professor? Ah well thing we can actually do about it The bad news is that the North Polar region continues to rise in temperature. It seems to be irreversible at a certain point Where is where is the fact in this this isn't just not true There's not a fact in any of this This is all supposition and just knee-jerk bullcrap And I like to ask the question which I asked every time you bring one of these idiots on here with a clip, I thought

2:09:37 I think the first time i heard it was maybe almost 10 years ago that if we don't do something this year, it's irreversible. We're doomed! The next year... If we don't do something this year is irreversible were doomed? If we don't do something this year as irreversible or doomed happens all the time and now it's happening again when are we doomed It's irreversible if it was irreversible ten years ago. Why is it not irreversibles or its gonna be we're getting near the end here? Yeah, this bother you Me? Yes! Yes, we're doomed. We may have to get used to a new normal that is a North Polar region that is melting causing more instability in this bucket causing more things to spill out which means more extremes some winters could be very mild other winters could be horrendous and you said 2014 is going to be the hottest listen just listen it out man listen it out we have to help people understand they can laugh about these jabronis John Record

2:10:38 It's shaping up that this year could be one of the hottest years on record. The decade that just passed, it was the hottest decade ever recorded in history of science. In the history of science ever since bones were invented! You know if this physics thing doesn't work out you can be a weatherman. Charlie Rose made it funny But there's something up with CBS. CBS is really pushing this right now and I got an equally disturbing report from the local CBS station, and you know... There are all these climate spokesholes that are around they're available and they're all professors somewhere or other This guy what is his profession? Hold on a second He's from Alabama

2:11:30 and his name is Thorell. What is his name here? Matthew Thorrell, and he's not a meteorologist... I have it here somewhere. I gotta look for what he is but they pulled him as an expert onto a local CBS where they're essentially doing the same package. He had dendrochronology. What's dendrochronology? Well, let's find out. I think that's the study of dead trees actually That's probably why it could be yeah That's probably why he's involved guy has a huge beard so you know he's hiding something Hey welcome back in the recent winter weather only gives more fodder for those who debate the validity of the global warming and climate change argument Okay You know where this is going? This is oh yeah this is the The propaganda the anti-pro the anti pill

2:12:25 that we need to spread locally to tell people that this cold weather is just part of the heating. And a recent article citing several scientists suggest our planet could actually be in for a global cooling period Dr Matthew Therrell is a professor of geography at the University of Alabama he joins us now live from our Tuscaloosa newsroom, doctor good morning to you Good morning! Hold on a second You picked this up on local affiliate in Arkansas or Alabama I mean? It's from I mean, I'd... Oh was this played in Austin? Uh no. This was not in Austin. I think this is Washington State Well they don't have a- Play that back! There's no way anybody in Washington state has a-has a Let me let me find out. Studio That could be wrong hold on let me find out uh let me find out if I can

2:13:18 I don't know where this is from John. Let's listen again We might be able to figure it out so that is slide all that is like back in the recent winter weather only gives more fodder for those who debate the validity of the global warming and Climate change argument and a recent article citing several scientists suggest our planet could actually be in for a global cooling period Dr.. Matthew Farrell as a professor of geography at the University of Alabama he joins us now live from our Tuscaloosa newsroom, dr. Tuscaloosa So where's Tuscaloosa? Tuscaloosa, Alabama. So it's an Alabama report? I'm pretty sure. Good morning to you. It seems like it depends on who you're talking to these days whether there is a difference between global warming and climate change. Are we talking about the same thing here?

2:14:02 Well, essentially I mean that's an argument that is sort of in the public realm maybe on the internet. Pay attention John! Just in the internet... The stupid internet people think it's something to do with you. Yeah yeah. I've noticed there are a lot of idiots on the Internet and they talk about stuff like that but we're going to be serious here It's not an important argument going on in the scientific community. No, not in the scientific community which is different from the LGBTQQI community So when we get this harsh winter weather that were getting now skeptics wonder how could be warming up the earth? so what do you say I love how he how the package is written skeptic say

2:14:47 You know, this whole thing is written so beautifully to shout down people. Well I think that people need to remember that weather and climate are different things and you can never take... Oh! What is convenient for you? One weather event and ascribe that to global change for instance at the same time that were experiencing really cold weather it's extremely warm in Australia Yeah its their summer douche And so you can't... That is unbelievable Yeah, he's literally saying it's warm in Australia. Yeah it's summer there! Yeah, it's also kind of warm in Panama a lot at times of the year. Yeah It's very weird that way and take one event and say that has anything to do with climate change or global warming even All right now in a Forbes magazine article back in May of last year This is my favorite piece here They cited noted scientists from West Russia Meteorologists from Germany as saying we're actually entering an area of Global cooling caused mainly by two factors a colder ocean water What are you doing?

2:15:47 I'm clapping. cycling to the top every twenty to thirty years and decrease sunspot activity so there seems to be maybe some disagreement within the scientific community now how are we going to address this because this is the nexus I think we probably have people in our audience who have seen this report on their local station maybe with this guy even as the expert, because what happened is Forbes magazine publishes an article saying it looks like global cooling and they have scientists weighing in with their expert analysis just as good or as bad as the IPCC really and this has to be discredited. And this is how you do it? Well, that's a good point. That's something I talk with my students about which is media literacy and the first thing I always tell them is to consider the sources so for example

2:16:38 I don't think most people consider Forbes magazine a reputable source for climate information. If you look at the particular article that you're referencing, that's an op-ed piece it's not journalism article and so this isn't something that i would consider a reputable source for discussing climate change. But the scientists though he cites in there they weren't obviously commenting on the op ed piece they were just mainly stating their data or scientific research Are you disputing their research? Well, he actually referenced newspaper articles that reference those scientists. So you know if you really want to understand it You have to get to the original sources and look at those I you know like I say It's if you if you're really doing studies on this like my students would for example That would not be a good source to look at now okay alright good so it's wrong source of wrong scientists obviously Yeah his students would no better ask kids Students with no the guy in Forbes is an idiot yeah

2:17:38 Wow, that was good. That's exactly the way to do it. You discredit the source? Right! You cut him off at the knees. Perfect And I do want to say about this whole thing in the UK, this is not unexpected what is happening there. These guys can say a million times it's all freakish and whoa who know but in 2000... Never rained there before! Yeah remember when Britain used to people would highlight the R the A and the I and N of Britain? It would always rained. In the 70s you're going to Britain oh rain ever hear of London fog yeah It used to be the wettest place on earth, the way I remember it. But I had this great article about European Union policy introduced by the 2007 directive from the Environment Agency which was, I think, introduced but published fully in 2008 which then sought to increase the frequency of flooding in this exact area

2:18:38 They knew this was coming. They knew that they could either make space for water... This is all Agenda 21 stuff, by the way. All of this. All of this ludicracy of not building up resistance to this area The whole point is to have these homes wash away I'm quite convinced about it When you read this article and you see how this area of the UK was really meant to be managed to flood And all the documentation points towards it. And now, all of a sudden where people are bitching and moaning they bring in the Dutch who are just pumping it out with their you know this is what the Dutch do very well and oh yeah maybe we should uh you know put some strategy in place but I but this is not unexpected This has been known since almost the mid-2000's that this area was going to be flooding! And now Cameron just walks around pretending like I don't know whatever Oh yes We'll help them all out

2:19:39 It's very disturbing. Where you got to bomb out all this old stuff, kill a lot of people in the process but you get the bombing out and then rebuild this into modern facilities. You still gotta get rid of some of this crap. You mean people crap? Even though to you and me it's not crap its beautiful stuff that could be modernized or its just... But no, that's not the way anyone else thinks Americans kind of think like that because we don't really have anything old but they have stuff from the 1600s and 1700's that is just falling apart. But you can't just tear it down, many of its got these special designations. If you've got a special designation place... You'll start to hear reports and I've already started to hear them but didn't think about it until he brought this theory up

2:20:34 You start to hear reports of, oh it's such a... Oh that was one of the most famous places. It was famous and it was protected and now its washed away! What are we gonna do? Have you noticed this? Yeah there'll be a buncha famous places that are ruined, washed away, gutted I mean because in other parts of the world where there is a lot of old cool stuff like Syria We just rubbleize that nobody gives a crap Oh, the best part was Iraq when we... We had the Sumerian tablets and all that. Hey what is this clay? What is this crap?! Let's get out of here! Time to clean up kids! Sweep up the clay shards people, this is no good And and the crazy thing is that there's what is happening right now This global warming making it very cold Is pretty much the exact script for the day after tomorrow

2:21:31 You remember this movie? No, I noticed that. This movie... when was this? Was this 2003 or 2004 I think this movie came out in? Let's look it up And the whole idea was you had this professor and he went to the United Nations He said oh because the polar ice is melting we're gonna freeze down here and everyone laughs at him 2004 okay It's pretty much 10 years ago yeah Hey ten years have passed let's go with this script Yeah I think not! Exactly It is the script, it is this story. Except we do not see Grand Central Station under 500 feet of ice! But that's okay. Not yet but stand by baby.

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2:31:34 Let's see the note about bread they make bread their bread makers one of them is a bread guy I don't think he's there. He's like up commercial bread guy like big bread guy Big Bread, I think big like big data only big bread big day to bake bread yeah, so it makes like like Balloon bread and those types of things It's the commercial the evil kraut brothers and their bread Empire our fund are funding our fossil fuel agenda Yeah, obviously we're all in. Stooges for the fossil fuel industry! That's why we're so rich. Even though what we promote is nuclear but that's beside the point Hey tell me about... In a newsletter you wrote something about the unions and the wages and minimum wage And you were going to bring that up on the show today So I'm reminding you to do this That's your fantastic setup? You didn't like it?!

2:32:29 That's okay. No, I thought one of the news items of the week that we didn't discuss much... especially when you compare it to... play this clip because this compares the way unions go in the United States of America with the way they go in France. Play Uber in France. Taxi drivers in France may have won their first fight in a long fight battle. The government has suspended new registrations for private chauffeur services like Uber. Paris made the decision until it finishes talks with unions representing taxi drivers who have been striking since Monday. The crucial stumbling block is taxis require license that cost more than 200,000 euros while private competitors have no fee

2:33:11 She had a little flub in there by the way that was interesting. I think it's under weird flub, can you play that? Taxi drivers in France may have won their first fight in a long fight battle. Yeah, fight-fight battle thing is this like neuro linguistic programming but probably just a flub I did follow um I signed up for uber I got the app I've never used the service but the JC buzzkill jr uses it daily so I I got the app and then immediately I'm getting spam from them and news articles And I did read about, I think a cab driver beat up an Uber driver or something. This happened weeks ago this is not fresh. Okay all right. I think it may have been the Lyft guys though because the Lyft guys go around with that big pink mustache on their car and they are slightly different they're more visible and they get harassed more because of the big pink mustache but as part of them in this it's a different system when you go on lyft I wrote a column about this cuz I was fascinated by cuz JC uses

2:34:17 But when you go on lift, you have to be a conversationalist and the end of the drivers back up Lift is an uber like service because I've no idea what you're talking about. I think it was I think it might even predate uber Uber's a little more polished a little more venture capital a little slicker a little better cars Lyft is really pretty much anybody And and they did and has a different model and you pay You don't pay a fixed amount you pay what you think the guy deserves value It's value for value. And so what happens though is that the Lyft drivers and you rate each other after the ride is over. So the Lyfters rate you as a customer. I believe in this, I think this is the future. Cheap trick? No, this is the future! Puked in my car, smelled like crap... annoying... talked to me the whole time. Right, so you rate each other before you see each others ratings too so you can't lowball the guy

2:35:11 And so he'll say that this guy stinks, or whatever. You as the customer can say the guy's car was a piece of crap and I would never be in it again. I give him one star But you can get blackballed with too many of these negative reviews and you could also get black balled as a passenger It's very interesting and I think it is slightly more advanced in some ways, but Uber is more popular. And they're trying to go all over the world so they go to France and of course this where you will get beat up because the French have these great unions in France These taxi drivers didn't just go on strike They went out to the main freeways and five across just stopped dead 100 deep! Yeah well we don't do that We are so anti-union now in this country

2:35:59 And I was thinking about it because they had this VW plant that tried to go UAW and the UAW is a dying union. I was a member of that union at least two different locals. Let's talk about what actually happened so we just set this up for people around the world, So the United Auto Workers Union wanted to unionize at the Volkswagen plant in Charlotte I think North Carolina or Arkansas, I can't remember exactly where. What happened? In the south were they're generally anti-union okay And they voted, they thought it was going to win and without a lot of real pressure just not make them vote no. They voted no anyway and that was the end of it because UAW has been trying to get all these so-called companies that come in from like Volkswagen comes in and builds a factory because its cheaper. Honda's got factories down there Toyota's got factories and so these import cars you buy in the United States generally aren't really imported The only thing imported is the factory

2:37:02 Well, the way I see it is that...I've come to the conclusion and the only reason why I wanted to bring this up was because unions have outlived their usefulness in this country. They work fine in socialist oriented countries like France where people actually get a job as taxi drivers take it very seriously they spend $200k for a license and do this for the rest of their lives! In the United States we're all thinking, ah, I'm going to quit and get some financing from venture capital? I'm gonna start myself a mud pie company We have all these, you know these outrageous dreams that have been kept alive by the BS in the media.

2:37:38 And so I think the future for unions in the United States is over. I think they're all dead and i think that the model actually for success, in terms of worker participation and by participation I mean have something to do with whether you like working or whether you know...you have a job being mismanaged by people how do you deal with it if there's no union? I think the model in Silicon Valley which is to just give you a piece of the company so you're essentially read into the company and if you get mismanaged, then you have some sort of recourse as part owner.

2:38:25 has people working 16 hours a day. It's outrageous because of the carrot at the end of the stick and that just seems like the future in so many ways I've never seen anything work like it, that works so well And you're part of that system? Well, you were in the startups and you've seen these guys kill themselves on the front lines for their employees. Oh yeah! So yes I agree to a certain extent. The startup culture which is a Ponzi scheme... Totally And of course your projecting on your own family so you see Buzzkill Jr busting his ass 20 hours or 16 hours a day and he's in a start up so he has a piece of the Ponzi scheme

2:39:11 But once this level moves up, i.e., they're bought by somebody which would usually be a Google that's pretty much what everyone is looking for and that's what the angel investors and even the A-round investors get in for it's for that big pop Everyone after that is slave but gets slave wages and you get this big promise of options Yes take these options they'll be worth something someday And when you leave, you got to buy them. So it's a Ponzi scheme and a scam and I actually like what you were talking about the Lyft model that i believe is the future The problem with all these companies is the company itself

2:39:59 Who some like it's the same with patreon this value for value for the arts Everything about it is right except for the fact that there's a company in the middle. That's the one thing that is unnecessary I'm sorry say that again that everything is right, but what except for the company? That's running the service There's no reason we have to have companies that are going to take all this money and create them and essentially take the value to enrich themselves, there's no reason. If you run it like a co-op where really what do you need when it comes to infrastructure to run Uber? Really! It's server infrastructure that's a co-op thing but instead they are creating all the value and keeping that for themselves I love the mutual reputation systems

2:40:55 and there will not be a single person who doesn't buy a car in the future that... well, there will be people but I'm pretty sure you and I John will buy cars based upon the model that this thing is sitting there 70% of the time. And i'd be happy for people to use my car and pay me for it as long as I know who they are and can check up on their reputation system But that doesn't, this whole idea that has to be a company every single time. That's monetizing the network and it's proven time and time again It's limited and it works great for the big scams you know The GeoCities, the AOLs The Facebooks, the Twitters They will go away Every single one of them You know MySpace Well no I'm gonna...I can't disagree with this because This is a basic thesis of yours that has never wavered

2:41:45 and I can see where you're coming from with this again. And, and I have to agree because i think a better example of that something extremely successful that doesn't really need any sort of centric corporate entity is LinkedIn. LinkedIn? Yeah, you mean saying LinkedIn doesn't really need to have the central system or a central company No! I don't see what...I know what they are doing They are the ones who created the network and then they created this But why? I mean, why can't that be an open source thing just like you're describing for everything else. Exactly! Well and this is why when you have a system like RSS that these companies set out to destroy it This is why Google turned off Google Reader

2:42:32 because they saw the writing on the wall. Hold on a second, everybody poops an RSS feed out of everything these days we have to stop this that is that would that could route around us being the connector That's exactly what that was about! That's why Twitter doesn't support RSS feeds anymore. That's why Facebook barely... They had some little support They are shunning, but even worse they get their corporate shills. Mike Arrington and all of CNET... You Google RSS is dead because these people are maybe even paid to go out and say oh that's dead Oh it's all dead Of course it's a fun thing to say in tech land It was a concerted effort to kill it

2:43:23 And and we will have to somehow come up with you know whatever we have to do But the okay, I just went to it now the number one RSS is dead. I went just Google it did 10 crut tech crunches The first two articles mm-hmm RSS is dead question markets for percussion calm never heard of them digital trend has it But they're talking more about the Google thing failing and it being alive. It didn't fail! Why RSS still matters is diverged, so there's some fighting going on... It didn't fail! It got shut down How can that have failed for Google? Well they claim- no that's what Google said Right. It failed Unlike what YouTube is making them so much money No. No no no This this is a concerted effort And I believe eventually in the long run They will not prevail

2:44:18 But as you know, but then but as long as we're teaching children non keyboard shiny touch-and-swipe tablet consumption devices Yeah, yeah It's gonna be difficult. But I've really turned my social network is much more email now and Somehow the idea of hashtags in the subject line really stuck with people they're really using that a lot And it was funny about that if you remember when that first showed up Twitter was dead set against the idea. It wasn't something they dreamed up. Exactly, even the retweet RT even that is it was a user developed thing right but if I just look at my email right now i have number two hashtag Snowden effect third email hashtag Africa hashtag NGO

2:45:07 Then I have six is hashtag turkey. So what's happening is because people are used to the idea of a hashtag, I'm finally getting descriptive subjects in my email and email is a beautiful social network. You know, I can block people, I can put them into spam bucket, I can auto-reply, I can do all kinds of really interesting things. Yeah it's work and there's others... A lot of its mixed up but at least no one owns me I don't know how we got from there to unions, but you're right. I don't know either! Well... It was a very well done series of segues somehow we talk about bitching about RSS being not dead. I have one more thing i want to bring up just uh..I thought was interesting okay this is the because as you know and most listeners who listen to the show for a while know that my thinking is that by 2020 they'll be a civil war in the EU

2:46:08 Which will result in the same old, same old battle between Germany and France. Would you mind if we just move that to 2030? Just to propagate our 2030 clubs? Oh for the purposes of our gimmick yes. Yeah just make it 2030 and that also gives you a little bit room Well I could say there'll be a skirmish in 2020 because something's going to happen And then the world war...the big one Because like the first world war was just like opening salvo in The Big One 10 years later You know what happened Works fine. Okay, so by 2030 yes German roots of descent this is the beginning of the end Is this a clip I'm supposed to look for yeah it says Joe? Yes, I see I'm sorry I saw I got it here gave me the name Anna and who didn't want to be identified told me how grateful she is for the help The food bank provides

2:47:01 I have everything here, eggs even fish bread. The little things make a big difference the money i get from the state goes to keep the power on at most I have 150 euros a month I'm very happy to have this because of this I can buy clothes and live Some of those receiving handouts accuse Germany's politicians of caring more for wider Europe than the German people. We're part of Europe, we help you why don't you help us? We have hungry kids but the government says that we should help immigrants take more of them. We have to close the open door

2:47:37 Charity organizers say that they've seen a change in the demographic of those coming to them for help. We have noticed an increase of older people, which is unbelievable for us. Traditionally old people in Germany wouldn't ask for free food Now they have no alternative so we see more people whose need has become stronger than shame Yeah this is happening everywhere across Europe yeah and this is thanks to Bill Maher by the way Oh? So... Well, he's just a jerk. So going back this is the overriding situation in Germany is this clip which is Germans on welfare and the numbers are kind of interesting

2:48:19 Business is booming in Germany, but under the surface there's a surprising number of people failing to get anything from it. We still have 6 million people on long-term unemployment benefits that means almost 1 in 10 households live on welfare In fact, figures from the German Office of National Statistics and Eurostat show that just over 16% of Germans are at risk for falling into poverty. Compare that to the situation in France, Czech Republic or Netherlands and you see more people can potentially slip through the safety net in Europe's economic powerhouse

2:49:01 This has seen more and more Germans turning to charities for help. We're seeing this in the Netherlands as well, the food banks are really the big thing where people just go in and get food. Yeah there seems to be a epidemic throughout the EU but at least with the numbers they presented on this report which I think was on RT or art, it was on RT but it may have been on Van Catten. So they're really looking at a 14 to 15 percent unemployment rate if every one in ten something like that even higher yeah rate of about 16 maybe so what happens what happens when do we have all of Europe the real unemployment if you as you're looking at the youth let's just say youth unemployment be 40 50% in some countries Germany too is pretty high

2:49:53 I mean this can't be hard to look at and predict nothing but darkness. What is going to happen? Is it because we have the industrial period is over, and we just have a bunch of people who don't fit in with the new hipster model... what is going to happen where are the jobs going to come from for these people? They're not! So then we need to have a war. Yeah, that is what the elites have always done. Yeah they gotta wipe these people out because they've already restructured the whole world essentially so all of manufacturing is in China and parts of Mexico and here and there I mean it's scattered around but China has got their fancy factories that can really crank stuff out I mean they're astonishing

2:50:47 Well, so you have all these there's no more factories. There's no more work I always Reminisce I tell stories about when I worked at a factory. I've worked in a bunch of factories I had when I was in school and I was into high school as summer jobs I'd come out with a lot of money kids were buying cars that with their own money Yeah, because they could do in the summertime saved art we saved our money And you could do all that, but you can't do any of that now and you can't lecture people about it. You can't listen to right-wing talk shows. Oh! Go get a job! Go get a job doing what? McDonald's you have to wait in line to get a job there and that's all you're doing is taking the lowest possible wage. You're not making anything at that place, you need just work in a factory I hear Costco is a great place to work. Costco right! That's what the president said. Try to get a job at Costco, you can't do it. Good luck yeah Well then I would say the only other way to do it is we have to have some kind of

2:51:43 pandemic we have to kill people in another way. They've tried to do that with the slipping in the bird flu, remember that one? That's my favorite. Well let me here's one so this is a report The Lancet I would say Then Lancet is when it comes to medical information its highly regarded. Lancet! Is it called Lancet? I said Lancet yeah the Lancet Lancet the Lancet This is what everyone points to when they say vaccines are safe and correct the Lancet am I wrong or Do you know anything about this? It is one of the great medical journals. Yes, thank you Okay new report which came out on February 15th neurobehavioral effects of developmental toxicity

2:52:36 and I have this report in the show notes, 5902.nashownotes.com In 2006 they did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxins We prostulate that people should never be exposed to these These chemicals should not be presumed safe for brain development at any time These include...I'm going to try and read some of these Lead obviously methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls arsenic and toluene. Since 2006 epidemiologists epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicans so these are six additional ones that you should not have anywhere near you they include manganese

2:53:35 chloro... chloropyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltryptolothiolethene two others I can't pronounce and fluoride Oh. And what do we see here on the first thing that we see in the news regarding fluoride? Yeah, ongoing finally this week some new advice for parents The American Dental Association says that a tiny bit of fluoride toothpaste should be used to brush kids baby teeth as soon as they come in John I think a lot of parents normally try to avoid this because they're worried their little kids might swallow This so why did the ADA make the change To kill them That's why to kill these little children give them fluoro

2:54:18 Because it turns out that a lot of kids are getting cavities, 40% of school kids and the more cavities you have as kid the more likely you are to have cavities as a grown-up. Which is also absolutely not true its behavioral it's not medical they are literally promoting a neurotoxin that hurts your brain as per The Lancet promoting that for two year olds Yeah, that's probably not a good thing. No! I find it fascinating and this has to be part of the idea but we can't... The war is messy why don't we just poison the kids? Just poison them to death. You know the thing is going to be developmental so the kid still gonna grow up he's just gonna be dumb

2:55:09 And it's that which makes it easier to kill him in a war, but I think that there's gonna have to be some It just seems like you know this man is kind of insincere. It's an instant your attempt This is a big this gonna be a dirt does nothing unless they come up with something Some invent. I don't know how you can do it There's no jobs No There's not. All the countries that have eken through this economic situation are doing it through financial services and services, service industries and all that sort of thing.

2:55:51 a moderate amount of industrial operations here and there. I mean, there's paint mixing place down the street. The Bayer has got a facility in Berkeley. They still make a lot of stuff here and they're small. I think it would be a lot of craftsmanship stuff that will keep people busy. There is You know, completely offbeat new media stuff that we're doing. Right right right Which is not even on the list of things to do for anybody and yeah no it's gonna be a huge war and it's going to take place in Europe And you thinking same actors Germany? And the rest

2:56:31 Germany and France. France, really? It's gonna be interesting to see how it breaks down because you know you always end up with the British getting involved cuz they can't keep out of anything and so they'll get involved with the French And then the Germans will- Because there's more talented at this sort of thing They'll start kicking their ass and we're gonna have to get involved to save it or there's gonna Be all these other countries I don't know what the Russians are going to do well that no they're freaked out about everything So if we believe in Smedley Butler's War is a racket then this is the only logical way to go because that's how money gets created, industry comes back and everything. It takes a while and it's messy I'm gonna have to get some clip of this or do a scan in here something but in one of William Manchester's books where he discusses beginning mostly about Roosevelt and he discusses the beginnings of World War II

2:57:27 And he has stats on how many planes and ships we had, and then how our manufacturing cranked up. And then what it was like two years later? It makes your hair stand on end! How we went from this kind of a funky country that was whatever to into the you know We don't want to get involved in Europe's bunch of a-holes. We don't want to deal with them to Incredible machine I think stinky a-holes wasn't what we said the smelly smell and it was like Wow, you gotta see these numbers. I'll dig that up. How about the Middle East will be rubble-ized? How about Africa? Will we do anything with it? Can we not just make war in Africa and build that up? Yeah! There's no fun. Making war in Africa does not really solve Europe's problem

2:58:23 Here's the good news, this is for the book club. After the war there is lots of fun stuff we can do with science Does America owe its edge in military technology to Nazi war criminals brought here after World War II? An important new book shows that while part of our technical edge was home grown Part came from some 1600 Nazi scientists who tried to win the war for Adolf Hitler Operation Paperclip explores the secret military program that hired scientists who used slave labor to build the V2 rocket and others who use concentration camp victims for human experiments. For more, I'm joined here in New York by Annie Jacobson. She's the author of Operation Paperclip, the secret intelligence program that brought Nazi scientists to America. Annie, such a thought-provoking book! You start at the end of World War II when, of course, Americans and Russians are rushing towards Berlin and there is a different race going on trying to get ahold these Nazi scientists? Yes we were after what were called ABC weapons atomic biological and chemical.

2:59:27 I think we nailed it. This is good, this is the first kind of mainstream publication that I've heard about recently of Operation Paperclip Yes getting back in the news for some reason. I'm not sure why movie is getting geared up We're trying to get the right mindset we've already militarized the United States of America by making everyone You know go through a rigmarole just before any sort of an athletic event yeah Salute the flag and then there's a flyover and don't forget the satellite of the troops satellite shot of the troops in Kandahar Satellites, they're all waving. And there's all... Then now the most recent thing is they've gone from in baseball games they start off with their militaristic which is recent by the way people should look into this they weren't doing this around 1920 so they have you know the national anthem and then on the seventh inning stretch where they used to play take a break for a minute or two where they refurbished the infield with some scrapers

3:00:30 They used to sing Take Me Out To The Ball Game, it was a tradition. They've dropped that in most parks now and they sing America the Beautiful so they added a second element of militarism into the baseball game which is supposed to be just something you sit and... Something that lays around watching Which I found was a little distressing And then you see that a lot This America the Beautiful There's no reason for this We don't need to be listening to these same two songs excessively You want to do a clip blitz to get out of here, or are you done? Where are you at? Well if we do have it... If you wanna hear something. Hold on hold on hold on! We gotta set it up right. Let's do it. Red 33!

3:01:15 Unreported news, Bahrain still going strong. Uh-oh, Bahrain... A string of violent protests by Shia Muslims in Bahrain marking the third anniversary of the uprising against the Sunni government Several injured over a dozen detained as police used tear gas The unrest that began in February 2011 has been violently suppressed with rather a lot of help coming in from the ruling Maliki's Gulf allies I think we should do like Libya. Do a no-fly zone and go get those Bahrainians This has been going on forever, it never gets reported in the US media but it's been going on forever Another non re... Hold on hold on hold on It's back and forth Oh okay It's not just all you

3:02:02 Man, I wish that was a bunch of clips. It's been a week where there was some rare good news food and medicine finally went in to the besieged old quarter of Homs And more than 1,000 people were brought out during a temporary truce between rebel fighters and the government but resolving Syria's deep humanitarian crisis needs a political solution That helped push the warring parties to attend peace talks in Geneva. But the second round ended today in complete failure. Failure! Everything's failed I wonder why Carrie is not out there saying, hey...I suck Sorry Didn't work

3:02:49 What I mean, well so did he remember now that the the chemical weapons apparently were all gonna be gone And you had the Geneva one protocol which called for Assad to step down then they came back for Geneva two protocol and Then the guy said well But this is based on one which means you still have to go and then Assad's it but hold on. I gave him my weapons Why do I have to go? And now it's all failed again So the rubble ization continues exactly Southern Bulgaria hit it. Alrighty... To southern Bulgaria, where far-right protesters clash with police after besieging a mosque over 100 demonstrators arrested after hurling rocks and bottles at security forces and smashing the building's windows A local anger was sparked by decision to reopen the site as an active place of worship It had been used for secular purposes since the country became communist in 1944

3:03:52 Yeah, yeah Bulgaria. Let's put it on the list of countries to watch rubble at rubble isation list Rubble ization has begun Facebook kills! Well, what started for some as a drinking game has already begun to claim lives. Four victims so far all young men the premise of the game called Neknominate is simple someone films themselves down in large drink and post the video on social media after that they nominate a friend outdo them if the nominee doesn't respond they are ridiculed on their facebook wall or twitter bullied It's very difficult in this day of personal liberties to say that Facebook shouldn't be condoning this, it should be taking these videos offline. Personally I'd like to see that happening because frankly if the thrill wasn't there, because your mates weren't seeing you, i suspect it would very rapidly fizzle out. I think this is another part of a fine campaign You hook them up with the fluoride early on

3:04:48 Then you get them to drink themselves into a stupor in their teens. And then you get them on the meds and get them to OD on heroin in their 30's! Who needs more? It doesn't... it's too little, too late. Alright, one more My favorite clip is this one Bart cops at work Okay Mm-hmm And what Bart is admitting tonight Kristen Yeah, Bart's police chief telling us today that the officer who tased a man on the train here at San Bruno bar station was doing his job.

3:05:26 New cell phone video shows it up close. The BART officer warns a man of what he is about to do and then... He tases him, it happened the night of January 29th someone called BART police to complain that this man was drunk and harassing riders when officer tracks the man down on the train he repeatedly asks him to get off. The man who has now been identified as Robert Asbury doesn't listen, so he's tased once. And minutes later when he is on the ground again for five full seconds. I'll tase him again! Taser, taser, taser!

3:06:09 As you saw in the video, the officer was extremely patient. BART's police chief admitted today that the officer who did the tasing is fairly new but he defended the officers actions saying even the second tasing seemed reasonable I saw the subject still kicking struggling with the officer We also showed the video to Don Cameron a former BART Police Officer who is now a tactical trainer I think both tasings were appropriate simply because they could be handcuffed and we wouldn't listen You don't listen to me! It's appropriate for me to shoot electricity through you. Board the train that day do not agree in a video they can be heard telling the officer that Asbury did nothing wrong. The woman who was sitting next to him insisted Asbury was harmless He should have complied but San Francisco resident Benito Taylor told us that does not justify what the officer did next

3:07:01 I don't think the second tase was necessary. The guy was already in pain, he's down. Alright alright alright... I love that we will have the entire world go into a tizzy over some zoo that killed a giraffe or some stray dogs that are gonna be picked up and everyone's all freaking out but I think you know one tase was okay you know maybe the second one me yeah i think it was a valid taser. You know, I think that's alright shoot some electricity through that guy with hooks with metal hook into his skin you know? I think that's okay Taser! Taser! Taser!

3:07:45 Wow, that is a- That by the way. The guy was... The reason I like that clip is because the guy was barking at the guy like the TSA people used to bark at you that always bitched about it Yeah oh but this this is not patience no This is not patient get off the train sir! yeah this is the next step put your laptop in the thing imma taze you take your shoes off No liquids taser taser taser shelter in place cow in the corner well luckily Those of you listening to this program are going to stop that because you can stand there and just laugh. Taser, taser, taser! Yeah, even just stand there and just laugh and everything will be fine And you know that they're just... The whole idea is to just terrorize you and go forth after this podcast and realize that you cannot be terrorized They cannot do it to you Because you see the humor

3:08:49 You see, you gotta admit it's humorous. It is very funny in a sick way. Yeah! It is for... Sick world! Taser taser taser! Yeah, so you're not listening sir? Wow. All right I don't know where to leave you with Experience North Korea or the Snowden Accomplices. I'm not sure, I'm little torn maybe I'll do both. Hit them both off and we'll finish up. Alright go to experiencenorthkorea.com This is our producer. My thesis yes exactly our producer Tony He says he was in Shanghai, and there is a there's a See they went to you went to a bar with his South Korean friend And he says these flyers were all over this restaurant or this bar in Shanghai

3:09:46 And it's experience North Korea dot com and there's big big tours. And by the way, it's all in English There's no Mandarin so they're not going after the Chinese market They're going after the American market or English-speaking market And it looks... Wow, this is getting good. Yeah! I want to see that parade, that big thing they do once a year That's got to be just worth the price of admission. I'm going So this is Pyongyang Marathon 2014 Well the banner on the homepage has that whole What are the tours? They have something that Let's see Is there anything Okay we can go to Pyongyang and surroundings Which you get visit three most important cities in the country Get to understand the country and its society

3:10:29 observe their way of life or you can do a week in the past which is 1900 euros live a unique experience explore the world's most hermetic country visit the country under the purest communism whoo and then you could do Pyongyang, the capital of Communism that's three days and two nights. I said about yeah this gonna cost about a grand for some of these things. I think this is you probably could do this trip for about a thousand dollars if you can get there but i'd like to congratulate you and i think you can pull this out, it's fact You were right on North Korea wants to be a tourist destination and then their marketing. They're actually marketing They're out there getting getting the word out I think it's really good It's fantastic I think if I can probably put this back about four years when I first bitched and moan about wanting to drink Bordeaux And after I saw the vice thing, and they had all these tourists things even though they're all empty

3:11:21 You don't set up a big tourist attraction because you just want to kill it empty. You wanted to bring tourists in Yeah, yeah, and I bet it's a beautiful country. I bet is beautiful Oh, it's untouched? Yeah It's the last they say on this website isn't the final the last frontier or something that have some... Yeah there'd be no billboards Horrible McDonald signs There's no McDonalds let's face it There's no Jack-in-a-box it will be 10 years from now but right now it's probably pristine Experience North Korea The untouched final frontier. It's beautiful, it was great! So everyone can enjoy that and then we had a little bit of an argument about this...it appears the accomplices everyone was referring to regarding Edward J Snowden are known to many in Congress as Edwin or Eric because that's how our Congress is paying attention

3:12:18 uh... looks like the the accomplices are being targeted and we'll hear about who they are soon this february tenth memo from the national security agency to members of congress detailing uh... to some great extent what they believe now is happening with their saying two congresses there was an nsa civilian whose snowed in apparently dot to enter his the civilians password into computer snowden was using the person did not know of course He says that Snowden was going to steal information from the NSA databases, enters his password and Snowden unbeknownst to him is able to capture that password and use it. That civilian who is not identified now has left the employment of the NSA. The NSA says that it has informed the Justice Department

3:13:10 all of this, no information about what will happen next. The memo pretty tantalizing because it also says there is a contractor and an active duty member of the US military also caught up in all of this but the NSA saying it's going to leave it to their employers to deal with that so perhaps more to come All of this of course a massive security violation and it begins to explain how some other has happened Yes, and I think it starts to put the strategy into clearer view of calling Snowden a thief by saying he didn't have access to this. He stole the documents

3:13:51 So this is a very different legal scenario that has completely been set up. And that also puts your buddy Glenn Greenballs into a bind because he's... Big bind! Now he truly is offense of stolen material, you're absolutely right so we both win. Beautiful. We both win and it's a setup. It's beautiful. It's a setup though, it's so obvious because first we have douchebag Rogers trying to get Comey the FBI guy who's new let's face it to say yes, if you are a whistleblower and you stole address then you're a thief. If you're a whistleblower but you stole the documents then you are a thief and if you sell those documents you are fencing so it's very specific difference between having access to the documents and saying whoa this is wrong what's going on or stealing the document

3:14:48 Then that is an that will not that will put Snowden outside of the whistleblower category and place him firmly into the thief category Well it changes a lot of premises because Snowden was always sold to the American public as the guy who had access and that was scandalous that he had access. And now if you didn't have access, you just stole his password and went in this changes the whole thing This is going to take a lot of work to straighten this out I think its so clear that you can set this up its easy for some other civilian to say yeah no I gave that to him Yeah I did that Some other active member of DOD

3:15:33 Yeah, yeah. You find some stooge to do that well okay? I think we've gone too long Dude we've got way this will be back in the conversation I'm sure it's I think that's going to be one of the major focus eyes of the coming week Probably at that and if we got it like just a funny that mainstream media hasn't picked up on this North Korea thing Again the experience North Korea trips. Yeah dynamite Yes perfect What do you have to get? There's that interest that Vice Magazine used through China, I think was the way to go because you get your documents right there on the spot. Right and you're good to go well yeah although they seem to be steering clear of all things China which is interesting not sure not sure Yeah thats weird too we'll figure it out

3:16:30 Figure it out and take the visit. We're definitely going to do our best, and we will continue to do that for you on Thursday when we come back on The Best Podcast in the Universe Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA as we move closer towards episode 600 You can become a special executive producer Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where the motto is taser taser taser! I'm John C. Dvorak we'll be back on Thursday right here on NO Agenda. Constitutional lawyer The best podcast in the universe dvorak dot org slash n a