Law of the Jungle

00:00 When Puff the Magic Dragon shows up, then I'll listen to your crappy argument. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak That's Thursday November 7th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 563! This is no agenda Brushing off my bitcoins here in the Travis Heights hideout and FEMA region 6 Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. We're plain and simply, I'm John C Dvorak Yay More than just playing simple play it is simple hmm Wow so Bitcoin over $300 now It's pretty wild

00:47 It's fantastic. You should have bought some of those coins when they were like a buck Well I still have a whole bunch, remember? Yeah you have ten! Yeah right... You're gonna need them. What, i'm sorry? You're gonna need them the way the show donations are going. I know! I'm so happy I didn't spend them all on Silk Road which has reopened magically. We can cross that one off for The Red Book but it's now reopened as an official honeypot Yeah, well I think it was kind of a honeypot before but now it's official. Well I think the timing is not coincidental there's something coming up on the horizon which fits in perfectly and now of course I'm even getting your buddy Horowitz sending me emails about Bitcoin since we talked about couple weeks ago right that it was it was now being accepted on Baidu or one of those Chinese things? yeah...I don't know what you buy on Baidu followers

01:42 But it's news and I think this Bitcoin thing with Silk Road, it's all kind of flowing into one It's going on one direction, you know the virtual currency appears to be getting a lift from greater expectance and some high-profile Endorsements its new high coming a month after many were predicting bitcoins demise That's when silk road an online purveyor of drugs and other illegal services was shut down by US law enforcement Since it's inception bitcoins been dogged by the belief that silk or Silk Roads customers would bitcoins primary users given the anonymity it provides but far from

02:19 from falling out of favor. Since then, it seems more people are buying Bitcoin. Converge strategist Nick Kolas point into China as a source of added demand where big companies like SearchShine and Baidu are now accepting Bitcoins for payment. Kolas also points to demand for second markets recently launched Bitcoin Trust through which institutional and high net worth investors can invest in Bitcoin. Second market's Barry Silber telling CNBC the trust has taken in $15 million so far, more than expected but he also cites other factors that are benefiting Bitcoin including bullish comments recently from the CIO of the hedge fund giant Fortress who said he was a buyer. Also, eBay's plans to look at alternative payment methods including bitcoins in upcoming hearings on Capitol Hill. Silbert says these are expected to be more informational rather than confrontational and that is good for bitcoin. Yeah this is Tom Carper who was the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee released a statement about Silk Road 2.0

03:18 But he's on the ball, huh? It's first it's so crazy. All of a sudden we have guys like oh the Statement right away not even a week or anything in between it It's weird. This new website launched barely a month after federal agents shut down the original Silk Road underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving, and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly rather than play... Yeah apparently it has. Rather yeah rather than play whack-a-mole with the latest website currency or other method criminals are using in an effort to evade the law we need to develop thoughtful nimble sensible federal policies

03:56 Without stifling innovation. So on April I see when mm-hmm When do we have think it's coming up at the end of the month? We have Some hearings this is it's all just a little too cozy for me. Yeah, it's a scam Yeah well, I don't know what to make of I even know what to make of it but it's the fact that people did they were showing Clint you know They're promoting it to in a funny way They were showing clips on one of the local TV stations. They made this, you know the same story that you read essentially floated around and they showed screenshots of somebody scrolling up and down the screen of this new thing. Yeah so this is Silk Road 2.0? Yeah but the thing was it was like ounce of cocaine 24 cents

04:50 A pound of hash. An ounce? Hold on, an ounce of cocaine?! I swear to God these numbers were ludicrous! I was thinking I should buy some of these vests... Please if you can find a couple ounces at that price bring it on! No and they had like cash heesh you know it was like $1 a pound. What's $1 a pound!? It's the five- it's John's Five & Dime Drug stall I'm telling you there was like a you looked at this because I'd actually stop the DVR and back it up in slow-mo it so I could see cuz this can't be right. It was ludicrous prices Yeah, and I'm not so sure that an ounce would be 24 bit sense or whatever where they caught don't they have a name? It's the Satoshi's yeah Well, this is clearly some masterful manipulation

05:44 Just masterful what the way this is going and this it's really really good. I'm impressed And and I've said, uh, I've just set a limit for myself when they hit a thousand That's when I sell if I can say I don't know if I think if I can unload him at that point Yeah, it's one of those you know Guy calls his stockbroker he says uh, I got to get some some flamingo corporation stock. He says, well how much you want? I like to buy 10 thousand shares is that so it's right now it's selling for five cents got your order in its ten thousand shares he says and I think I'm gonna buy another ten thousand shares and guess what up to ten cents all right fine get it

06:29 So this goes on for like a week. I need 100,000 shares. I need 200 thousand shares. I need 500 thousand choices Okay, I got you the shares are now $1,000 to share The guy says okay sell and the other guy at the broker says to who? Exactly exactly well we shall see we shall see Okay, I notice in the Candidavian News we have very few donors from Canada this show. Thunder Bay somebody came in but that's...I don't believe that Thunder Bay is in Canada and then you've got to talk about this crazy...this is the kind of thing we need in this country This mayor of Toronto Yeah You know they've got some good elites there because we do not have anyone as funny

07:24 No, and I would like to show the guy for people that don't know this story because it's I don't know if it's just local to Canada or the Western Hemisphere or what but so this Canadian mayor of Toronto uh... got busted by gawker magazine who had a video somebody sent them of all people smoking crack cocaine. Right now this has been ongoing for a long time where there was this rumored video and then the people who had the video wanted like two hundred thousand dollars for it, this is going on for half a year at least It's been going on for awhile but the great part of the story is that mayor has finally admitted that he was smoking crack cocaine but he had this fantastic excuse

08:05 His excuse was he was hammered. I was stoned! He was wasted on alcohol and that's the only reason he did it So this guy is apparently a drunk Yeah, and if anyone gets a shot at it. We do have linked in the show notes the wiki page has him just essentially drunk at the office staggering around going to restaurants hammered Yelling at people and cussing everyone out firing people left and right grabbing new women that work there You know grabbing their breasts

08:41 And just like a very humorous guy, the guy won't quit and they can't seem to get rid of him. That's what I don't understand. There is no impeachment process or do you just let it roll? Have no idea what the deal isn't sure maybe that I don't know. I didn't really look up to Toronto government style But it might be city managed, and if that's the case the mayor is just a lunatic Figurehead nobody anyway That could be I mean we have that in Oakland well if you look at the wiki page He's got one of those kind of phony baloney mayor necklaces on yeah the huge thing with all the challenge coins on it and then The big like flavor flave thing at the bottom this drunk head on it It's pretty cool though

09:22 Yeah, it's a good-looking guy. Let me take a look. We need more people like that here in the United States It is humorous Ontario liberals steer clear of Rob Ford Fuhrer but with options left open for intervention This is yesterday story Why is Toronto Mayor Rob Paul still popular? Hello! Everyone else there's drunk and stoned like, hey dude he's one of us. Remember you always get the government you deserve He looks like a... I don't know, he has a funny look about him. He's got that puffy face The guy is only like 40 It looks like he's 70 Yeah What?! He's only 40? Oh no yeah you're right 69

10:20 My goodness. His approval rating actually climbed five points! Okay, alright do you have anything else on this guy because I think we should move on? Just tell me this is what the Canadians want Well we have a new mayor in New York City Oh yeah this guy Bill de Blasio did you know that's not his real name No what's his real name He changed his name from Warren Wilhelm Jr when he was a younger man. He was, I guess he's embarrassed about his heritage or something? I'm not quite sure... Wilhelm? His last name wasn't Hitler! No close enough though. Wilhelm Warren Wilhelm Jr., but he changed it to Bill de Blasio anyway Well he'll manage and i think didn't he manage Hillary Clinton's campaign did i read something about that

11:19 I think he did. How do you know that? Well, if he... That's the case! How did he win? Uh well no when she was senator i think When she ran for uh for senate for New York Let me see..I think there's a Clinton connection which just makes so much sense You know they had of course they had their boy who melted down Yeah here de Blasio managed oh maybe it was the presidential campaign Anyway, he managed something for her. So he's a Clinton guy makes total sense. They didn't bring him in when they get in if they get in I'm still now I'm starting to think that Chris Christie can still beat the woman enough that was put properly but Heyo! I don't know what you've been doing? I've been...I'm a little dismayed by The direction the news media took with this six-week cycle

12:26 LAX shooter. In some ways it's made, in other ways like same script the guy shot in the face can't talk gee where have we heard that one before? That would be the same as The Boston Bomber and definitely moving towards well let me see I have a couple of things here which yeah which I wanted to roll out first of all we have The Witnesses there's some is there's a lot of noise about one of the witnesses who has been interviewed here's Here is, let me see which witness this is. Oh okay so there's this guy who they interviewed Pugh is his last name? I forget his first name...P-U-G-H

13:09 And they interviewed him at LAX and what turns out is this is exactly the same guy who was a freelancer for Fox on 9-11 talking about how the buildings had collapsed because of the fire. He was down on the streets, so there's these videos floating around of the same guy right after each other... I mean it doesn't look exactly the same even the quality of video is different But you listen to the voice, it seems pretty convincing. It's exactly the same guy so of course the conspiratorial video going around is crisis actor shows up twice. We want to bring in Mark Walsh who is a freelancer for Fox You live just a few blocks away and witnessed... Dude I was-I live on the 43rd floor of a building which is five blocks from The World Trade Center itself. I witnessed the entire thing from beginning to end How many shots did you hear?

14:03 Probably eight or ten altogether and I was sounds like the same guy to me. How about you? Yes, it is the same guys Exactly excited quality Within 30 seconds. We put that on his sheep very excited quality very good I was watching with my roommate was approximately several minutes after the first plane had hit, I saw this plane come out of nowhere and just ream right into the side of the twin tower exploding through the other side I was at the very back of the line and the guy who was shooting was right coming up God it's he is the same guy except He has a different name

14:41 So that of course adds... Well there are people who have similar pattern the way they talk, but this guy is the same guy. It's the same guy it's a same guy That's not quite as egregious though But what's the point? Did he was.. Oh no the point He didn't bring anything to the table at neither one of these reports. Hmmmm well no Many confirmed the plane hitting that brought something to the table but What does he talk about with the shooter I don't see how any of its important It's well if you because I'm going to No, no not talking about the coincidence being important or not. I don't see what he says He's solidifying that it would contribute to the importance of the report. He's solidifying that this shooting at LAX happened at all and okay That's right You're gonna go back to square one that the whole thing is bullcrap. Well there's a couple of annoyances So there's apparently just like the Boston bombing there is footage

15:39 of this guy and I know LAX where you have to go up the escalator to go to the actual checkpoint, and there's a person downstairs who looks at which...I don't even know if it's always a TSA employee who looks at your ticket before you get to go up the escalator. So that apparently it was this Hernandez guy Who and this is right by the door the doorway opening so yeah, I'm missing blood shots. I'm missing so much We have nothing absolutely nothing and now this is well there's this Surveillance for me you're missing blood shots There was that you had you the Daily Poet The Post New York Post had that guy the spleen there was a spleen that would take that was The Daily News

16:19 and there was no spleen it was like some tomato soup can they upturned that made no sense and now they're blurring that out if you see if you try to go look for it everyone who shows that picture they blurred out now the big stain because it looks so on really unbelievable. No but, apparently their surveillance footage of this Ciancia guy shooting the guy who just checks your ticket before you even go up to have your ticket checked, because LA has like this double thing which is really just crowd control. Then he apparently saw him moving went back down and then finished him off the way it's... And I read the criminal complaint as well which i have some issue with but so instead of showing that ABC News has put together this really elaborate animated version

17:11 We get we can't get it from Japan. It looks like one of those exactly what are those? What is that outfit that does that I can't remember yeah, but they do air for everything They will have one out so this so this is literally animated It is not the real video and but this is all the training our coverage tonight begins with ABC's David Wright at LAX where he's been since the start Moments before all this, Paul Sciencia arrived at LA... So that's the TMZ footage that is shown over and over again of people running. ...acts like a passenger dropped off by someone driving a black Hyundai The criminal complaint filed Saturday in federal court describes a cold-blooded attack

17:55 It says video surveillance showed Ciancio walking up to the TSA checkpoint in Terminal 3, pulling a Smith & Wesson assault rifle out of his bag. Which is not even in the complaints by the way this detail of a Smith and Wesson. And firing multiple shots at point-blank range at a TSA officer. Then it says as he proceeded up the escalator he looked back at the wounded officer who in video appeared to move and returned to shoot the officer again. So you have to watch this if you have a chance, link in the show notes because they're showing you an animation that does not represent the LAX situation at all there is no checkpoint downstairs it's just a guy with some...you know like the ribbons

18:39 You know, you have to go through the ribbons. It's kind of crowd control. What was the point of defaming Smith and Wesson in this report? I don't know. And so I pulled the complaint which was filed... This is also very quickly...I mean, I don't know if this is normal how quickly this was filed by a special agent of the FBI who filed this whereas, you know, I don't know if that's a typical procedure And there's a couple of things I wanted to highlight. Instead of saying on November 1st, it says on or about November 1st in Los Angeles County this took place. I don't know if that's typical for filing? On or about? That doesn't make sense! Why would they say it? It wasn't on or about...

19:21 November 1st, 2013 in Los Angeles County within the District of California blah blah and then it keeps on says Paul Anthony Siancia unlawfully intentionally using a firearm performed an act of violence at Los Angeles International Airport. An airport serving international civil aviation." And there's something about that that is interesting so here we have according to eyewitnesses and video surveillance footage This so you know this is not even really fact. It's like according to eyewitnesses and surveillance footage which apparently exists But we haven't seen And then says the answer began to visit these guys are taking way too long they need to get some some experts in listen to this vinyl cut pro Yeah, it's some other because this takes forever for them to doctor these videos 2.7 Why can't you do it a week? Then a week at two days You should be able to have a doctored video out

20:16 Here's some details that the news is reporting on. This is the only factual information we have that has been filed in public, as this special agent says I learned from other law enforcement agents that a bag that Ciancia carried with him at the scene Agents recovered a handwritten letter signed by Ciancia stating that Ciancia had quote made the conscious decision to try to kill multiple TSA employees. So he hasn't even seen this, He says I learned from other law enforcement agents. He hasn't even seen this note according to the filing and then here's the one if you're a special agent with the FBI do you write this?

20:58 Ciancia's possessions on the scene also included five magazine clips of ammunition for his assault rifle. I'm sorry, if you are a trained seasoned FBI agent You do you say magazine? Maybe you say clips if it's clips to load a magazine But you don't say magazine clips who wrote this This is not anyone who has handled a firearm John and then interestingly the actual complaint Based on the foregoing, I believe that there's probable cause to believe that Paul Anthony Siancia violated United States Code Section 37 violence at international airports. And he is not being charged with murder? He is being charged with violence at international airports which is like this weird thing

21:58 that I think has to do with how terrorism... This is pretty telling. Well this is how terrorism laws are going to change because of this and and I have kind of gone down... It's always a reason for these things that take place yes Yes, I think we can point some of that out but... I'm going to read from a document. One is a clip, two couple photos one is a clip one as a magazine yes they are different non-interchangeable terms although do a quick search of recent news covering the gun control debate you'll see how often the term clip specifically is used incorrectly yeah but then to use them together? Magazine clips thats completely ludicrous! That doesn't exist

22:38 So this is a special agent with the FBI who's been a special agent for nine years? A clip describes cartridges held together with the strip until they're loaded into a firearm. A magazine is a container that holds the cartridges. All right, go on. So that's just irritating. We have no video, we've never seen the video from the Boston bombing where these boys put their backpacks into the trash can... And this is going to be the only podcast or broadcast that ever mentions that this is a missing in action clip Even the governor of Massachusetts says he hasn't seen it but he's reliably informed so we just haven't seen this Why would you? and the question the governor of Massachusetts

23:22 apparently a toady, should be asking is why can't I see it? Was the guy naked or was he... This is the problem. The thing he was doing, was he peeing in the bucket? We see surveillance video we hear 911 calls for 99% of all crimes in the United States but when it comes to unfortunately situations that are questionable where we have literally seen nothing. We have seen nothing, then we don't get to see or hear anything and maybe it's being done on purpose to fuel the nut jobs because boy they're coming after us this show is not long for the airwaves as far as I'm concerned here's Aaron Burnett there on at least i'm not long for the airways maybe

24:15 Aaron Burnett on the CNN she had my buddy there Potok, who seems to be like the only guy at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Now we read you his their news exclusive And she pulled out all the stops. We are learning more about the alleged gunman Paul Ciancia and why he may have been targeting TSA officers specifically so according to the latest that we have from the FBI Investigators found a note from Ciancia that made it clear He wanted to kill TSA officers and quote instill fear into their traitorous minds, and no one has seen this note We haven't know why can't we just see the notes? Yeah, it doesn't take much to take a picture of it. We have Ted Kaczynski's manifesto we have Breivik's compendium we've everything but then we can see this and this is according to the complaint the filing agent only heard about it yeah he didn't see it either. Now Siancia said he acted alone but the question is was he part of an anti-government group? The guy said he'd been shot in the face yet he was able to tell the police

25:16 That is rising in popularity across the United States as in could this happen again? Tonight Mark Potok a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center and Michael he is the fellow medved a conservative syndicated radio show host great to have both of you with us mark You spend your entire life tracking these sorts of things. You say, according to Siancia's writings he appears to be aligned with a conspiracy-minded anti-government Patriot movement. Very important word there. Very important word now pay attention slaves very important word Aaron says patriot patriot patriot patriot very important word. Patriots which believes about the federal government Yeah, it's pretty much what is going on. Except this now being pinned on this guy somehow

26:12 No, I think convinced would be a little strong. Just a little strong but let's bring it up anyway We learned over the weekend that there were some other references in his one-page handwritten note Now how come we can't get these references? How come he gets to learn this and even the filing agent doesn't? I want to see this evidence please He talked about The New World Order What?! He talked about fiat currency And he talked about The Federal Reserve In the world of the Patriot groups or what we use this note It's long militia groups that those things all relate to a single conspiracy theory the idea That American free well really that there is a plot on the part of the government to create a one-world government a socialistic totalitarian regime To be called the New World Order

27:04 This has been going on since it was written in 19... Late subject George Bush clip. No, I've got a nice combo for you coming up don't worry! I've got it Many people in the Patriot world trace that conspiracy That alleged conspiracy to the formation of the Federal Reserve In 1913 and the subsequent abolition of gold backed money In other words The adoption of fiat money meaning paper money that is not backed along. No, he's just parroting whatever is out there. Basically anyone who supported Ron Paul has these notions. It's simply that kind of language in the note that he left. He also we learned had some very personal attacks against him

27:50 I'm just gonna try to out guess what Aaron's gonna do and tell me if i'm right or wrong here. Aaron is going to ask him, because that's what I would do If I was the host of this and this guy was on here... Aaron is going to ask him point blank so did you see the note? No no no! If-if I were Aaron I would steer the conversation towards racism Because we need to train the slaves of the media googling empire who just love and lap this up. We need to train them! into submission that we hate each other and where it's red and blue, black and white left and right. And we hate each other and hate your brother and suspect your neighbor According to your research the patriot movement has surged since President Obama took office 149 groups linked to that when he started more than 1300 last year Do you think this is rooted in racism against the president? Oh! That's the question you need Aaron Wait a minute hold on a second

28:51 She brings this bull crap in out of the blue and she never asks the guy, did you see the note that your quoting from? No she hasn't seen the note either. This is now just... it exists it doesn't because- And she doesn't find this unusual but she thinks its racist somehow This is the narrative! The narrative there's a couple other narratives You know I don't know if she like drugged what do think is wrong with her She is about to..she highly pregnant she's about to give birth So that, you know... She's just reading the prompter. I'm wondering about her line of questioning why she was... She is just reading the prompter John! ...and has enough trouble maintaining an audience without creating this animosity and hate? Well here it comes Yes! Yes! Yes! I am willing to give up the word patriot to those people. ...context a very rapidly growing number so-called patriot groups or militia groups. The growth has been just astounding And it really did begin

29:45 in the fall of 2008, the beginning of 2009. In other words precisely when our first black president is coming to power so I think that one of the big drivers at this movement is not only the person of Obama a black man on the White House but the demographic change in our country that he represents The idea that the white majority will be lost in about 30 years This guy's so despicable so despicable and I know we talked about on Thursday but he is there's no he has no fact there's no basis in reality here let's bring one thing up right now if you look up if you google the growth of patriot groups and these bogus numbers there's no proof of these numbers have you been approached or do you know anybody? We have a broad range of listeners

30:36 Do we have a bunch of Patriot group people that are infiltrating and moaning and groaning in the chat room or any place else? No. The entire Patriot movement explosion is comes directly from the supposed facts of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Correct, and if you look at...and people have done this but you look at all these 1400 hate groups, patriots groups Christian hate groups as he calls them You'll see that a lot them is like some website somewhere some guy It's like I think the classification of what is a hate group has been stretched quite a bit by the Southern Poverty Law Center But they're to go-to guys for this stuff

31:17 It's it is complete and total mind control. Now let's get to the New World Order Yes, I will play the clip one more time but there's something else that President 41 president Bush said that caught my ear in relationship to something That was just broadcast on television We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order A world where the rule of law Not the law of the jungle. So just bear that in mind for a second, the rule of law not the law of the jungle governs the conduct of nations when we are successful and will be. We have a real chance at this new world order an order in which a credible United Nations

32:06 can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN's founders. Okay, so the promise and vision of the UN's founders is The New World Order this is what the president is saying he repeated this and has been repeated by the Pope, by Clinton everyone has repeated This New World Order thing And the idea was we'd have the United Nations, not making it up you just heard it. The United Nations would kind of sit above this and they'd have the rule of law not the law of the jungle so if you look at the United States of Europe It is very much what this vision is and here's Fareed Zakaria with his little moment

32:46 And he brought this jungle thing up not once, not twice but three times in this context. In 2002 the British diplomat Robert Cooper wrote an influential essay in which he argued that Europe had become a postmodern international system... That's pretty much the New World Order. ...in which force was no longer a serious option Instead, economic interdependence and cooperation were the governing ideas of statecraft. Yeah and banking and stealing people's money and starving them and just forcing them into submission through non-elected leaders in Brussels And certainly when one looks at the European Union this does seem to describe its reality The prospect of war between France and Germany which had gone to war three times between 1870 and 1950 seems utterly impossible

33:33 But outside of Europe, the world is not postmodern. Cooper argues that the solution is double standards within Europe one set of rules Outside it he recommends rougher methods of an earlier era force preemptive attack deception whatever is necessary Among ourselves we keep the law but when operating in the jungle We must use the laws of the jungle This is what was violated by the NSA activities. So he just keeps talking about the law of the jungle, so I'm hearing Regardless of and I don't think this policy on see I had any note We have no evidence of a note that everyone just parroting that there was a note There was no note filed with the complaint The complaint says I've heard about the note there was no notes but this narrative is now being used and I think that's Something to pay attention to at least Now

34:31 As a part of this we have, I wasn't actually expecting this to happen and i was wondering if there was maybe some kind of beef that the TSA union had but they couldn't find anything. But the head of the Union... The head of the Union representing officers with the Transportation Security Administration issued a statement calling for some of those officers to be armed the aftermath of Friday's shooting at Los Angeles International Airport. The statement reads in part, quote, At this time we feel a larger and more consistent armed presence in screening areas would be a positive step in improving security for both TSOs and the flying public." the development of a new class of TSA officers with law enforcement status would be a logical approach to accomplishing this goal." Fantastic.

35:22 These guys are gonna be trigger-happy and they're gonna be pulling their gun out when somebody gives them some grief So put your bag on the thing, but you know that you know That era. Oh yeah of course But the thing is they didn't properly trained They are employees there. They are the same screeners we had before 9-11 these are not they're not agents You remember how they when they finally went from that patch to a badge, how they were crying? How happy they were. Yeah and they were very happy to have the badge and we at the time when this first happened... They don't deserve a badge! I think that the two of us, of course not but i think that the two of us, I think I could be wrong because it was awhile ago actually predicted them being armed

36:11 I'm sure yeah, it was probably pre-pre read book even that we said this would happen Yeah, it's bound to happen. So I don't care too much about the head of the union but when it comes to Holder, the head of all things legal in America... The function of TSA is to ensure that people can board planes safely take flights safely. The responsibility for protecting airport security is not a TSA function but something that I think we need to certainly examine given what happened in Los Angeles Oh! It's not a function but I think we should examine it Right Alright, now some morons. So you picked up a lot of clips on this. Was there any moment...any clip? Because I haven't found anything and i just kind of gave up Any moment or anything where somebody says hey you know these lines that are out in front of security it makes this entire public especially once they're in the cattle line sitting ducks for all kinds of problems where they can get killed

37:13 Is there anybody that processed that up? The sitting ducks of things. I did not hear the sitting duck, no i did not hear sitting duck...I did hear some fun stuff on MSNBC Which kind of, you know... Is Pete Williams? I'm not sure who he is. I don't know if he's a commentator He threw out something regarding the conspiracy theory angle which was concerning Well this is not one of those investigations where every 10 minutes brings some other revelation Yeah it is! There are revelations that bogatoove! I think this is going to be a long slow go now To try and find out the answer to the key question which is Why did he do it

37:56 There's nothing that his friends or roommates say that they thought he was an adherent to this extremist, anti-government view that is expressed in this handwritten letter that he had which is a sort of general rant about the usual stuff about the Federal Reserve. A general rant about the usual stuff? Wow! That's pretty blatant John a general rant about the usual stuff, yeah the usual stuff. The federal government and currencies and one world order and all of that. And for some reason a specific attack on the TSA which he said... You can't have any opinion anymore this is big shut up slave moment. Alright MS now I this was very interesting of course someone's always gonna bring up the gun angle which we know what that's about and i'll repeat it and it'll become evident in this clip when these two clips

38:52 that the entire gun ban, assault weapon ban whatever has been going on is not really because The president or any lawmakers care about you being killed by a gun They want the women of the United States to never vote for the Republican Party ever again Because they're seen as being pro killing innocent people and children. It's a very very smart political move and they have this woman On MSNBC, I have her name somewhere. She's a commentator and she brought something out about the Second Amendment you know this is one of my pet peeves how people discuss what the Second Amendment is and that it just was just took it to a new level and I will remind everybody The Second Amendment does not give anyone the right to bear arms or have firearm

39:42 It is a protection against, apparently an inherent right. It says the Congress, the government, the federal government can make no law against this so it is not giving anyone a right that you already have. It is prohibiting the federal government from making laws about it and only the federal government and only the federal government could be in a dry state by dry I mean no guns yep the state of New York or the state of Connecticut, or Chicago. Or any place you want. State of Chicago! And you can have another state Georgia let's say or Nebraska yeah where you could be allowed to own anything you want correct and it's always overlooked is the Tenth Amendment issue and this is the real crux of all this stuff so all these arguments but yeah you're right there's some people would need to be reminded that it's just about

40:37 The Constitution only and the Bill of Rights are all about restraining the federal government from imposing these broad-reaching edicts. So when politicians say, oh I believe strongly in everyone's Second Amendment right and you know they're implying that that gives you the rights to have a gun in your possession... That is not what the Second Amendment is about! This woman took it to a whole new level So we have this once again confluence of, we don't really know what the motives are but there was this literature sort of anti-government random sort of anti government fervor. Random anti government fervor? That's our podcast right there in a nutshell. Did she see the note? I don't believe she did John it just parodied that. What can be realistically attack

41:29 We can't deal with people's ideology, but you have this problem of guns. He got all the way up to a checkpoint There is literally nothing that could've been done to stop him Sure well I think actually there are couple things that could've been done to stop him But ironically it was these kinds of weapons That not so far away in South Central Los Angeles when we had gang wars happening boys killing one another with these kinds of weapons that really pushed the first assault weapons ban that came to us. And so it is ironic now, that when we see these kinds of weapons going into our airports where we have thousands of travelers coming through LAX each day when we aren't making this same call maybe is because who was holding the gun but what could we do to stop it?

42:10 We could ban high-capacity magazines. We could ban military assault style weapons They should not be in the hands of civilians look I am a firm proponent of the Second Amendment But not this bastardized version that says that anybody can have anything they want at any time if they want She doesn't like the bastard eyes version of the Second Amendment When did we change it to the bastard eyes Second Amendment lady who was that fast talking weirdo? Oh, I have her name here somewhere she is Let me see she she's actually famous. I hate to say it What the hell is her name? I'm sorry. Oh, maybe it's under videos a have her name somewhere Like she she blogs on the griot I think which is an MSNBC website for the african-american community oh She's black yes

43:04 Most of the shootings down in the LA area were all with handguns, you know drive-bys. They weren't using AR15's Well and now they had this whole conversation and she's like the bastardized version... is that a bastardized version of the Second Amendment? It's a crazy woman, but here she says it out blatantly what the plan is to change the voting habit. She doesn't say women but these two women talking so I'm going to just be presumptive and Goldie and yet you do have Goldy yeah Goldie is her name Goldie something or other I'll find this sort of sense of political paralysis

43:39 These shootings happen, it's an outrage on the media. We talk about it for a few days and then we go back to doing nothing if nothing was done after Sandy Hook is there any hope whatsoever that the Congress will take up the remedies that John just mentioned? I think it will take a turning of the House of Representatives frankly. We've got gerrymandered congressmen and women sitting there in Congress who are not necessarily following the will of the people 80% of people across this country agree that we oughta have backup ground checks that we had to close the gun show loopholes, that we should not allow adjudicated mentally. Did she say 80%? What did it go down what is she saying I think she said 80 again plenty of look at his Goldie Taylor. Goldie Taylor yeah they're in Congress who are not necessarily following the will of the people eighty percent of people across this country agree that we oughta have back Wait a minute! It was 95 he went down to eighty

44:31 ground checks, that we ought to close the gun show loopholes. That we should not allow adjudicated mentally ill people to be able to buy weapons. We believe across this country 90% of us don't believe that high capacity magazines... Oh now it's 90! We went from 80 to 90. ...belong in the hands of civilians and so why can't this Congress? This GOP controlled Congress make those kinds policy decisions is because they're bought and paid for by the NRA who don't represent everyday Americans, they represent the gun manufacturers. And their only job as gun manufacturers is to make sure there's a further proliferation of guns in this country." Don't vote GOP! Is the message it's the G O P! DON'T VOTE GOP! Yeah I think we can make this point from till hell freezes over that this whole thing is a scam just again to scare the women folk yep the women folk

45:24 So anyway, and then we had a mall shooting in New Jersey where the guy is shooting out lights six hours later. He's dead. There are just a bunch of these things that we have to put together I'll probably do it for one of the newsletters A checklist of earmarks of the six-week cycle events always involves the FBI right from the get go And typically the shooter has three names not two Yeah, that's right. I gotta get that in there and the checklist yeah The thing is just said you know the there are random events that do take place? I mean Oakland people are being shot You know every day days was not part of the six-week cycle the FBI is not involved in fact They won't even tell us who they are but in I think it was was at Louisiana or there was nine people shot In a convenience store There's no CNN on the scene

46:17 No one's down there like, oh nine people shot. There's no it's not just a helicopter shot and that but that's more people than were shot at the LAX thing And for the New Jersey mall they didn't break in and do hours and hours on CNN It's a mall why then we had the Connecticut to college Which turned out to be a guy in Halloween costume. Did you hear this? No, I missed this. Crisis on campus! First at noon, a crisis on campus classes have resumed today at Central Connecticut State University though some of the fear from yesterday's lockdown after reports of gunmen on campus is still lingering and

46:56 I'm Kara Sundlun, thanks for being here everyone. Even though we now know there was no gunman and it turned out to be a young man in a Halloween costume the response was massive and scary for some Yeah! I think it's all just slave training John this is all about listen to the police do as you're told shelter-in-place cower in the corner shut up slave don't come out do what your told listen to listen to what law enforcement says I think it's just training. Well, I think you have to get people in the right frame of mind to train them. You gotta scare them but i think you can actually scare them in different ways. For example and I have this clip which is

47:44 This was done actually early in this year. It was one of these podcasts, and I'm not gonna mention what it was But it's a podcast who has is this phony guy call-in who's the DHS insider? Oh okay, and his Vocoder with like the upper down and like uh like auto tune no no it's not out of tune. She's muffled oh okay yeah is that not doing better? because we would have that funny thing right there. Alright do we play this guy now the thing you have to note I'm gonna just give away the punchline at the beginning which is this was done like in February of 2013 predicting all, ya know, the big crisis was going to get us all by this last spring and of course nothing happened as usual but

48:34 You know, and it's all part of this another one of these scam memes about making the dollar worthless. And that's you know another way of scaring the public and I'm wondering if you know, everybody is doing it. You have your set... your targeted groups which is the public in general you have your right wingers, you have your left winger and you have your moderates and you have your left-wingers being scared to death of these dangerous guns and that you're gonna get killed and the likelihood of you getting killed could happen anybody then you have them right wingers which are crazy... They're afraid they're afraid of the socialist commies are going to get him

49:15 Yeah, so it's... but listen to this report because I just found it to be hilarious. Police for certain operations that are being planned right now This is so important that you cannot even begin to imagine If you get nothing else out of this please please make sure you tell people watch the TSA and they're increasing your involvement against the American public They are the Stooges who will be the ones to carry out certain plans when the dollar collapses and gun confiscation begins. Whoa, wait a minute! You just said it mouthful... What's the agenda here? Your intelligence insider he knows that we're facing planned economic collapse He wrote about this in your article about Benghazi or at least thats what I got out of later articles so why the surprise There is alot here lets take it step by step if you don't mind

49:58 Okay, but I'm not gonna give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps This is what i'm hearing life for the average american is going to change significantly and not the change people expect first DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA Wait a minute does this guy sell you like some stock at the end of this? No, no this is all straight. This is scripted respond to civil war you think yeah reading it yeah there's a financial panic and then we'll be one maybe as early as this spring when the dollar won't get you a gumball I'm not sure what the catalyst will be but I've heard rumblings about derivative crisis as well as an oil embargo

50:35 I don't know that's not my department. This is this, uh...I think this is the guy from Stansbury Research? Is that this guy? No. This is bullshit! There are a bunch of these things. Bullshit?! Yeah, this is to scare people into buying gold or buying seeds. In this case there was no pitch. Oh please what show is this? I gotta listen to this. This is bullcrap. It's total bullcrap. This is the Stansbury research, I'm telling you! I wouldn't be surprised but i know that the idea is we're going to have this economic crisis tomorrow Yeah, you know these guys would do a better job if you played the whole clip the guy goes on it says this has been planned since The 90s right and which is like how long does it take you to collapse? The economy if that was what you were into doing so So I think you know the economy is not collapsing. Yes It's not necessarily either extreme but what I do see I do see a very systemic

51:34 programming of minds and it's not just here, it's everywhere. In fact the European Union just got the big giant voice system I think is for all of Europe or something? Your phone will... let me see here it is 4 million people this is a so they just started this they did a test in Gitmo Lowlands four million people got a giant voice alert They're trying to roll this out all across Europe. There's a lot of weird stuff happening, but all of it comes down to basically do as you're told! Do as your told and I think it's necessary because we are going to see more issues starting in Europe—it's been going on for years now where people are rioting

52:31 you know, because they have no job. No prospects and it can only be a matter of time until that happens here unless you continue to train people into submission and I don't know if it's really planned necessarily? I don't think you can do that by the way. You can't? It's like if you don't have any way out. You don't have a possibility of the job, you've all these responsibilities there was a really good report I fortunately might didn't get to clip it but of a woman they followed around New York who is living on minimum wage and they

53:08 And she had to raise a family of seven. I heard this on NPR and she was talking about how she got like fast food, she worked at McDonald's. That's right it was on NPR. It was not NPR PBS News Hour. Yes yes that is what it was. But no but I heard the report. It was very good and you know just getting by was like a joke And the reason I wanted to clip it, because it had all these mac and cheese references. There was a slew of them. That's why that's why I didn't clip it. I'm like oh mac and cheese okay really? Seven boxes of mac and cheese. Seven boxes and chicken guts or whatever. Cheap chicken!

53:49 pathetic situation and you can see that if you don't even have this, I mean there are no opportunities. And there's no opportunities opening up and the shadow stats guys show increasing unemployment. This will come to a head but it's not for a while because they've been doing a great job of buffaloing the public into thinking everything is not that bad. Well, no just that but also we do have certainly in the United States we have quite a safety net that is still there that has been extended extended extended expanded now were started I don't know why but as part of the farm bill now its like you know where taking off $36 dollars a month from everybody's food stamps to snap benefits

54:33 And you know, it seems like we have plenty of money to go around for other imbecile things. So we certainly didn't have to do that but okay I mean why? You want just tease people? It's like either we have a safety net or we don't you know and I don't that was ridiculous. I don't know why they did that, were they just looking for trouble? That's what it felt like just we had the cards not work i think that was a good test whether it was intended or not okay people didn't they freaked out but they didn't write they just left all their trolleys at the Walmart now we pull back a little bit

55:13 I just don't under, I don't know. But uh...I think there is a measure of training going on worldwide that is telling us how to act how to be you know it's part of the cultural Marxism we talk about the political correctness all of that is is it's a part of it and it's very very effective with that we had an young lady over here who's involved in the art world. And she's from Canada and her parents are from the West Indies- By the way, I'm gonna start calling it Candanavia. So she's from Candanavia and her parents are from the West Indies so she's brown. She had a meeting with Mickey and you know...and she's been in Austin. Her husband works here and she's been in Austin for a year or two. Two years mind you but for her its Texas and she's from Candanavia

56:08 And she was like, wow you know what happened today is someone rolled down... I cut. Someone didn't take advantage of the opportunity in traffic so I zipped into the spot which means she cut somebody off which is not an Austin thing by the way and he said, and the woman stopped traffic rolled down her window and started yelling at me and I think she swallowed the n-word! I'm like, just making it up now But this is how people have been, and she's trained. She hasn't been here I don't know where she's been trained externally external in Candanavia that Texas is one big racial bunch of Yahoo rednecks yeah and this is Austin and she thinks that! And it's just not true

56:58 Well, but this is the training that people are receiving and it's this you You wrote the newsletter very good newsletter. I'll say It's not healthy what your what people are getting on television the right the left? It's not healthy it is not healthy you need to turn it off We'll give we'll give y'all the nuggets. You know if they do there was a bunch of stereotypes they like to promote which is really contradictory if you think they're trying to train everybody to be politically correct and all the rest of it. You know, not hate no hate right? And then they promote for some reason this stupid... It's like anybody it's like I think cultures that kind a question the litany like Texas yeah you know they got Texas got all kinds weird stuff going on. They get crazy religious fanatics. They've got libertarians. They've got all kinds of stuff

57:54 just a good variety of craziness. Yeah, we're very... And they have both beef and they do have pork too! That's right that's right we are a good variety of crazy not like California where you just have Scientology I mean come on get it together get something crazy going on out there so but the news media likes to ridicule these parts of the country and you see it with Duck Dynasty. And the Duck Dynasty guys are actually businessmen, and they're kind of irked by there's a lot of reports about them on how the network wants him to act more stupid yeah and more redneck Yeah and more rednecks is that's not the way we are which is yeah We got these beards and we live in Louisiana But we're not that stupid yeah now and I will point out biggest show on cable television

58:39 Huge. Well there's something else, so this is very good you point this out Something is coming down the pike right now and I looked into this because I was like oh What does...I got an email from Valerie Jarrett! I got the same email you got on her mailing list finally Yeah, I got it And it said hello dash dash She doesn't know my name This week the US Senate voted to consider the Employment Non-Discrimination Act or ENDA. This legislation has a very clear purpose, to make sure that no one can be fired for who they are or who they love. Yeah by the way... Let me get this straight let me ask you probably read this thing more carefully than I did because I roll my eyes. I have a lot to say about this Matt. Good well then i could ask some questions in advance okay

59:24 So, enda which means you can't be fired for who you are. This is purely about sexual orientation? It says that I said who you are! Yes... You'd be a Nazi?! A fascist!? No, yes, no, you can be hired and fired if your a Nazi but apparently... Listen Jay Carney is going to answer all your questions he did a special video on the whitehouse.gov site a special video Jay did now And I can tell you what this is about. This is about more... Well, I want to hear it! Hi we wanted to give you an update on an issue that I get asked about a lot in the White House briefing room It's called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Senate is discussing this important critically important piece of legislation this week The bill provides strong federal protections against discrimination making it explicitly illegal to fire someone who was gay lesbian bisexual or transgender

1:00:18 It's hard to believe, but only 17 states currently prohibit discrimination against LGBT Americans. Gee! Do you think that the South and Texas isn't on board with this law? As a result millions of Americans across the country go to work every day afraid and fearful that they might lose their jobs just because of who they are or who they love I'm calling bull crap on this Millions of Americans go to work AFRAID of who they are and who they love. Really, Jay Carney? Could you please show me those statistics?" That's not only unfair it's contrary to the essence of what it means to be American. It is contrary to our values. And that's also bad for business and that's why a majority of Fortune 500 companies support employment non-discrimination policies and so do small businesses

1:01:13 Because they know employment non-discrimination policies are better for the bottom line because it allows these companies to attract the best and the brightest to their businesses. Congress has the opportunity and responsibility to act by passing ENDA, a fully inclusive ENDA President Obama has expressed his support for ENDA many times over the years most recently in an op ed in The Huffington Post where he said, who you are or who you love shouldn't be a fireable offense. So share this message that it's time to end workplace discrimination in this country." Okay now here's what- What if you love Hitler? Now that's fine let me just explain what's going on here This... You're going because I saw the op ed in The Huffington Post And by the way before you go on I do want to say there was a meeting

1:02:02 to come up with the who you are, who you love. Oh yeah! Because the term love is always loaded and it just makes a thing...it softens the blow very well done by the way what then I just want to explain to people what this is about so you understand because you're gonna hear this a lot This is essentially saying Republicans hate gays That is all that this is about. This ENDA has been introduced into Congress, every congress since 1994 and actually this similar legislation which didn't have the transgender part in it has been introduced since 1974! This has not new. This is not like something that just popped out of the woodwork they do this right when you get ready for elections because we have to let you know

1:02:52 that the Republicans and anyone else who opposes ENDA are gay hating assholes. Now, the problem... I'm telling you this is what it is! And they've refined this with who you are or who you love What's the problem with this legislation which I have read for you? I do this out of the goodness of my heart The problem is First of all, these protections are guaranteed constitutionally. So it's not even necessary but okay we want to pour some crap on top at a federal level you really want to do that? Is it really somehow we can do this if your transgendered and by the way is not for bi-curious only for bisexual so I'm being discriminated right off the bat It is very dangerous piece of legislation mainly because it said it is not just being fired but also about being hired

1:03:46 So it would increase lawsuits and bullcrap by just such an incredible amount. So you can say, I don't know how you prove it but you can say because I'm bi-curious... oh sorry I don't count! Because I'm bisexual, if I wasn't hired I'm going to sue that company so it's not just about being fired but about not being hired furthermore it has an exemption for any religious group Of course that's another great one. Oh the Republicans, the crazy religious right, the idiots they don't want it! And... The U.S Army which no one talks about. The US army so you can be fired for being gay in the us army in the armed forces. The exception is right in

1:04:35 the legislation. So this is a red herring, it's not going to pass it's going to be you know once we get over whatever the message of the day is I guess we all have to yell about oh the crazy country hicks who made a joke about Obamacare on The Country Music Awards so well that'll run its course and then it's The the crazy right, the crazy rednecks, the southern states they hate gays. That's what it's gonna be so you'd be prepared for it so you know what's coming and that is why you listen to The No Agenda Show so that when this happens people will be like it's nuts I can't believe it who would not want to give equal rights to gay people

1:05:14 You say, well this has been going on since 1974. Every Congress has voted this down because there's a whole bunch of exceptions that make no sense and you're already constitutionally protected and you can say it with a calm voice like that Yes, which is what you should do. Yeah, so I'm looking at was looking at some stats What do you think the top three in terms of gay lesbian? Transsexual etc etc QQ populations what are the three top cities in the United States in order New York nope California set the time for knees number not Calif cities Oh cities. I'm sorry cities San Francisco yes number one

1:05:58 Number two Los Angeles. Wrong! Wait a minute, I don't have the buzzer. Yeah i'm giving myself the buzzer okay number two um is it in California? No Buffalo What what if it was in California what would possible city could be? I would still say Los Angeles I'd say Los Angeles isn't that where all them homosexuals are and entertainment business? Number one is San Francisco right alright and what's number two You're not gonna guess? Okay, number two Austin Texas. Just because you were there Seattle is number two. Oh Seattle and of course then we have to Portland that's probably up there as well And then number three is not Portland What is number three Atlanta Georgia Atlanta really There you have it Wow

1:06:54 Anyway, so just be prepared because this is the next unless something else happens in the meantime But this is their things people are This is a disgusting. This administration with all these cheap tactics to keep you and The American desire to actually be fair yeah Is really getting on my nerves and Carney is a horrible horrible person He also doesn't look like he had a lot of fun doing that video And it was like last spur of the moment. She's always being asked so many questions I had to do a video, what is that? I've never heard one of these questions! I know...I know... Alright well... Hey John first of all

1:07:36 Thank you for your courage and in the morning. You want to go in the morning? We have very little to talk about in the morning, but I'll say in the morning do you Adam Curran in the morning at all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding their subs in the water and The dames and knights out there and including our executive producers for show 563 And I would also like to thank our well of course human resources in the chat room no agenda chat calm today on the stream and our artist Patrick Bausch, thank you for the artwork on episode 562. Always always fun to see what people have submitted at NoahGenera-artgenerator.com And yeah it's uh well we were kind of expecting this to happen after The big six anniversary extravaganza I didn't quite expect it to go this fast but yeah We're a short list and of course we have Our executive producers associate executive producers um and we always love to see

1:08:29 Our knights and dames and barons and dukes who come in. And so we have I think Sir Robert Alter? Yeah, we have one executive producer Sir Robert Alter who was weird he comes in with 31661 but it really came up with 33333 and I don't know why that number got there like that because he does have a note Unless this was from last time. I've been working on which, I don't recall...I would have remembered if Alter was doing this but he says he's been working in Paris

1:09:09 For the last few months and needs karma to make the whatever project he's running on it make this project end smoothly ooh Some some endgame karma then no I was handed out good work. Yeah, of course you've got Karma Thank You for producing the show Showrunner hey that's a new title we should have show runner showrunner. I can do a hundred bucks and up for show runner, we can read their notes. Yeah, show runners! William Owens 23333B associate executive producer from Jacksonville North Carolina sent a longish email okay well did you get that? If not... From William... Since we got time on our hands to look this stuff up yeah well yeah you want to look

1:09:54 The problem we have with a few of these guys by the way is that they don't put their names in the email per se. Yeah, it's like something like paypal at gmail dot com or something kind of hard to match it up sometimes Let me just see what we got here. We probably have it Here it is. Oh That was quick oops he He had two notes with the first one is a toxic dump I'm donating now instead of at the anniversary show because i figured i'd average out nicer in the long run and i had to help out with a light day. Hey! That's right on, you got it man thank you Like you said Italian government's idea of transparency have been stationed here in Italy he's in Italy yeah I know yeah Armed forces yes or they wouldn't use the word stationed or wait a minute Onward

1:10:40 it could be stationed as something else. I'd always heard about, and Italy is a target area...I've always heard about the trash which abounds some of the neighborhoods and highways as a result of the Camorra mafia but came here despite it and since I have even extended he's gonna be there longer I'm able to see through this and truly appreciate the beautiful ancient and unique city I live in blah blah blah Forget all the nice stuff he says about, ah nice blah blah. Italian landscape... But the food! Ah. Stioxin in the buffalo's milk which used to make a super tasty mozzarella which is used to make caprese. Caprese? Since I shouldn't have been eating it. Just stay with the GMOs and the commissary. The 1999 higher-ups in the mafia had a guilty conscience 1997 In 1990s

1:11:32 Sorry. In 1997 a higher-up in the mafia had a guilty conscience over improper disposal of nuclear sludge and toxic wastes which he seemed to have confessed off to record while being arraigned for something else, in the interest of transparency the lower house of the Italian Parliament has elected them make the documents public 16 years later There's some info on ye old web, I've included some links so we have to look into that. On site has my area list as one of the many that is affected with this i'd like to ask for a shot of karma at the risk of cheapening it a preemptive fuck cancer and finally an Italian shut up slay for all us citizens in jeopardy

1:12:19 Okay, hold on a second. Oh yeah Matt it's official if you're hearing this you're a douchebag! Hold on... Matt is the douchebag and okay I know exactly how fortunate so you can look at these yeah i'd love to look at that here we go let's uh i'll do it this way shut up slave You've got karma. There you go, preempted! Well you are stage zero cancer regardless so that's not bad. Stage zero? Stage zero. You're precancerous my friend trust me. You are precancerous. Well that was so much for the good cheese. Brian House is our second associate executive producer and last one and he's in Batteau Bay in New South Wales Australia. Hello Australia Hi there John and Adam it's time for a top-up donation

1:13:16 to keep you too buoyant. A float? Give me a please don't eat me Hillary Clinton, two up top it's almost too delicious combo if you could. Two up top? Please send me... oh he wants the information for the shripphole. Yeah for the Wi-Fi email me directly we don't give that out on the air although you could probably figure it out but yeah I'm happy No he can't! He says yes It's almost too delicious to believe my friend karma That that's a different don't eat me Hillary Clinton is it yeah really didn't sound Is it I know that's interesting. I don't know just grab whatever oh You're right, I'm sorry. That's not the right one hey hold on a second who Didn't we have this just the other day that we don't eat me Hillary Clinton

1:14:21 It's Lizzie. Is that the wrong one? Well, that's not the good one! Hillary Clinton! There it is. Alright... That's the good one. It's the Good Eating Clip She sounds more like someone who is about to be eaten by Hillary Clinton Yeah Big ogres coming at her We'll thank uh.. The rest of our shortlist later in our donation segment we really need some help here No Agenda works on your support And that's why we have executive producers, associate executive producers. They understand the game but we just need more support We just need more of it and the place to go and find out about that is... devorak dot org slash N A And regardless we always need some help propagating our formula which is fairly simple Our formula is this! We go out, we hit people in the mouth Order! Shut up! Sleep! Woot woot woot So I was uh

1:15:34 Watches sweeps weeks. Yes, yes it's sweet so that's why you would have Nightline a show that is just crap It's turned into pure garbage ever since the old yeah they changed the formula to a bunch of crappy Actually longish very longish Feature stories that aren't interesting. Is Ted Koppel still host that? No, no Ted Koppel? That's how long it's been since I've watched Nightline. I haven't watched night line in a long time so Ted is Ted still around yeah He's retired okay and he shows up once in awhile. He's a huge fan of He's like a complete progressive liberal nut. He does special reports, right?

1:16:19 And he's a fan of some people that are like, why is he a fan of this guy? Right. I can't think of it now but so they had a porn special. Oh, Sweep Suite yes of course! So a news program. We used to talk and joke about this at PC Magazine years ago when if you wanted up your numbers for your readership because everything is monitored like Max Headroom You just put Porn in the title and you double your numbers. Nowadays it's Macintosh, you double your numbers if you use Macintosh. I'm thinking the porn on the Macintosh should be a huge winner for anybody out there who wants to make a name for themselves so i got a bunch of...

1:16:57 deal with five clips or maybe six. Well if it's that good... It is, it's pretty more fun-it's not good its funny but because there was a couple of moments in here they're like okay.... It's a little lewd the show's a little lewd but let's start with porn one the false premise According to one study, seven out of ten teens have accidentally stumbled across porn online. Experts are asking is the average teen really ready for this? Do I get to interrupt or do i just keep the whole thing going? You can interrupt all you want because it's pretty few... So there this is about- It's not seven out of ten! It's 10 out of 10 teens have seen porn what is that?! That's probably true A. What is that? They don't want to scare the public they don't alarm everybody but this is a

1:17:46 By the way, it's just not a porn special. It's about porn and teens! Oh yes of course. A hardcore porn video is right on my phone for anybody to access We've always suspected that porn can't be good for the teenage brain but tonight a new study Is there now scientific evidence to back that up? When he puts porn into Google What does he think he's going to come up with? Probably pictures of breasts, maybe a naked woman. In reality... He is catapulted into a world of sexual violence. Gail Dines the author of a book called Pornland says for the average teenage boy porn is his first formative impression of sex. He's not got it! Yeah okay yeah uh

1:18:30 Uh, when we had magazines that was my first formative impression of sex. It just wasn't online it was magazines and we buried him in the woods and they were all damp and stuff remember that John? You know when I...I'm older than you Oh so you didn't have porn legs? So my first encounter with porn as it were cheap black-and-white photos that some pervert would be carrying around his pocket on the factory floor Wait a minute how old were you?! I was old enough to know better But you are in the factory. I was always working, and this is alien talk to everybody out there. Wait a minute! You're in the industrial revolution? You're working as a seven-year old on like on the factory floor... No but when I was in high school, I would be 14, I had a job. I was always working. I had a paper route when I was a kid and then I always had a summer job

1:19:19 always had a summer job because I needed money. So, uh...I was working all the time and so you're on a- I worked at lot of factories, sheet metal shops and this production facilities. And there was dude walking around who had like black and white pictures saying hey what is he doing? You can't find a job today back then it was like falling off a log right so i'm you're on the factory floor and there's some guy Hey kid, wanna see some pictures? Really? You want to see some pictures. But wait was he selling something or was he just a tourist? No no he's just showing pictures then showed it somebody else He was the guy with the porn Oh the porn guy! Now I also saw some picture again of photos

1:20:03 Not magazine, it wasn't institutionalized like it got later apparently with you. So there were complete magazines but no these are just the hand-me-downs and you'd look at me go I think the first time I saw the photos... Wait a minute! You went ehh? Well the first time I was 12 years old and that's what I did almost do. I think I may have gone ehh I remember because back in those days, even the 70s when when I was coming of age you know porn was not it's not like it like it is today. You know there were kind of sexy Rubin-esque women with huge just massive amounts of hair. Remember those days? No. Okay all right calm down he doesn't remember so

1:20:49 So there's stuff left on this clip, right? Yeah. Lots left. ...of his own experiences of sexuality with other people... He probably never had sex with another human being And it is not just boys Winifred Bonjean Allpart was only 12 years old when she shockingly admitted she'd not only seen porn She said she understood all the innuendo We're getting messages from everywhere that are saying if you dress this way you are going to be either treated well or you're gonna feel powerful. Sex is power. Okay stop right there. Winifred, ease up! Ah interesting okay this is the war on men? I want you do yeah there's a little war on men action but I want you to listen to this girl because she does an analysis if I'm not mistaken by at the very end of her clip and I want you to listen in advance I wanted tell you what it's gonna be about this is

1:20:03 Not magazine, it wasn't institutionalized like it got later apparently with you. So there were complete magazines but no these are just the hand-me-downs and you'd look at me go I think the first time I saw the photos... Wait a minute! You went ehh? Well the first time I was 12 years old and that's what I did almost do. I think I may have gone ehh I remember because back in those days, even the 70s when when I was coming of age you know porn was not it's not like it like it is today. You know there were kind of sexy Rubin-esque women with huge just massive amounts of hair. Remember those days? No. Okay all right calm down he doesn't remember so

1:20:49 So there's stuff left on this clip, right? Yeah. Lots left. ...of his own experiences of sexuality with other people... He probably never had sex with another human being And it is not just boys Winifred Bonjean Allpart was only 12 years old when she shockingly admitted she'd not only seen porn She said she understood all the innuendo We're getting messages from everywhere that are saying if you dress this way you are going to be either treated well or you're gonna feel powerful. Sex is power. Okay stop right there. Winifred, ease up! Ah interesting okay this is the war on men? I want you do yeah there's a little war on men action but I want you to listen to this girl because she does an analysis if I'm not mistaken by at the very end of her clip and I want you to listen in advance I wanted tell you what it's gonna be about this is

1:21:41 the newest version of the me generation, the selfie generation. Nothing in the world has ever happened before until they came along and there are new... play it out just play it out and you'll see what this doesn't gully or I'd be surprised part of this new order of teens brought up in an era where explicit images can be found just about anywhere we're like the first-generation to have what we have So there's no one before us that can kind of guide us. I mean, we are the pioneers." And these images can be traumatic

1:22:25 You are the pioneers? Yeah, this is the selfie generation. We're the pioneers! Hey chive dot com moron. Selfie pioneers. We're the pioneers now more likely now you have a this other clip I thought was the funniest clip This is the little girl shocked clip. This is part two and this is a girl who's still 12 I guess she's like it she's just a little kid, she's a cute little twelve-year old that is described apparently...I think there's something illegal about this special by the way with bringing this girl on but it is actually quite humorous in some odd way at least to me Her friend Danielle first learned about sex on a porn site

1:23:08 It was this one black guy, one hispanic guy and this one very blonde woman. And they were just like ferociously banging each other it was very... I mean i came home i went bawling my eyes out. I'll never forget it okay oh that okay that was really really sick That was sick! Let me ask you a question My parents taught me about sex before i was six And it was all kind of clinical, but it wasn't like hoo-haw, schlickenlocken. It was penis vagina. We use the real words how it works and there's even like it will feel good I remember that

1:23:51 And of course then we moved to Europe and then it was all like, you know where there were naked women walking around on TV at seven o'clock at night. But it was like yeah but this is... We can't the kids aren't supposed to learn about sex until they're 12? That's too young? Am I understanding this correct? That is what it seems to be. I mean, it's sense no makes no sense in the Like that anyway for something funny about that clip so we'll go to part three now It turns out that a lot of this has to do with addiction. Of course, yes! Because it you know this doesn't have a bunch of drug commercials surrounding it but you know we're about two inches most of these news shows nowadays are very heavily financed by drug companies who might as well just get that out of the way so so you know this one not necessarily but

1:24:42 Play part 3 and we'll move along. I mean is there some official guide that... Well Caleb, this British bullcrapper comes on. There's a lot of Brits in this report by the way they're preoccupied with this. I think this report is actually a rehash or something done someplace else. Oh yeah okay they probably purchased it and redid packages okay. Yeah it's repackaged One of our Gitmo East producers will let us know. This Caleb guy who says he's not as good at masturbating

1:25:25 just a classic wanker, British wankers. constantly and he, now the show starts to border on getting just out-and-out hilarious. Compulsion! He spoke with English journalist Martin Dabney saying that he's had sex with women and it just doesn't compare It's not as good because they're not as good at the porn obviously the porn girls have done a lot more, a lot more confident And with pornography so ever present some teens become addicted to it sometimes at heartbreakingly young ages. So 12 to 13, all the way up to probably 14 it was kinda there uninterrupted I became almost numb to it It became such a part of my pretty much daily routine Nathan, a teen in Utah eventually admitted what was going on his parents and was ultimately able to quit but for others its not that easy I started to isolate myself

1:26:22 Because I hated what i was doing. I hated that, I couldn't stop. Breanne is now 23 but remembers just how strong her addiction was during all of her high school years. I would say that this is something that um...was not just me. I knew tons students who were in my grade, my peers who are struggling with the same thing. Hold on a second John is she saying she was addicted to masturbation or addicted to porn? Or both because that's unclear to me This is an interesting part of this study or this story it seems there was a crossover point with the masturbation and the porn and they're hinting about the masturbation In Part 4

1:27:05 the kid that we go back to Caleb and he and Actually, but you can watch it just skip to part four. You'll get five you mean five five no No, it's for now your plates all for yes Okay I got it for yep Got it okay Now you should pay careful attention To this part because this is the funniest clip that I have in the group Domney spent a day with him to see the problem firsthand What do you think? You've got this relationship with Paul don't know Don't know just think That's just something that my brain must have picked up. I can't find a way to stop, because I've tried getting rid of my smartphone there and thinking to myself why have i just done what I've done? And how do you get over that low? Do it again! Dabney gets a glimpse of Calum's hard-fought struggle when they drive past a pretty girl and it immediately triggers a reaction What are you off to? Just gonna go the toilet for good measure There he goes! You with me?

1:28:03 Better? Yeah. Ah, I feel much better. So, you gonna crack one out? Oh John this is now it's just insulting. This is just insulting. So here's what- let me try to summarize Can I stop you for one second hold on yeah hold on I'll be right back oh there he goes there he goes hey okay yeah how do you feel do you feel better much better thank you Well actually if you play the rest of this clip, the guy doesn't feel better. You might as well get to that and I'll tell you it's kind of funny. Well that clip ended so this would be... Oh didn't he where he says i feel disgusted? Did you get that part? Didn't hear it maybe I talked over it yeah maybe but whatever the case was the kid was unsatisfied but let me get this straight So he's driving around with his supposed porn addict

1:28:56 And they drive past a pretty girl. And he has to immediately go jerk off? He goes, he says stop the car! Stop the car!! and he has to rush to some bathroom anonymous bathroom I don't know where...I guess there in someplace with a lot of bathrooms and it goes in jerks off because he saw this girl and then he's comes back and is disgusted with himself he says I hate that What has this got to do with porn or anything else? This is bullcrap. Yeah, it's... well I think you- and it's obvious It sweeps weak and sex sells duh

1:29:34 Yeah, well that's pretty much it. If you want to play us out you can play the fifth part and there is something about the study... The great phony study. It was just like for a split second I feel like it was the best thing to do and as soon as I finished it's like why the f*** did I just do that? Well that sounds like a drug addiction to me. Yeah! It is virtually because I can't I can't stop it. But is Calum's internet porn compulsion the same thing as a true clinical addiction? Does it actually change a person's brain? Yes! Dr Valerie Voon, a neuropsychiatrist and global authority on addiction working at Cambridge University decided to find out

1:30:13 I wasn't sure what to expect when i first started this study, to be perfectly frank. And in part because we just knew so little about it In these images you can actually see the pleasure centers of an addict's brain responding to their drug of choice Would scans of young people with a porn compulsion show the same results? Voon found 20 young men between 19 and 34 whose lives were so controlled by porn that they were willing to be a part of the study. They didn't want to be identified, but they were willing to stand and compare it to control group of volunteers The subjects were shown images of explicit porn to see if their reward centers would respond in the same way as drug users Yeah! When data was analyzed, the results were astounding

1:30:57 You see there's a very clear increase in activity in the reward center. The compulsive users reactions were twice as active as those in the control group, in the pleasure center known as the striatum matching the responses of drug and alcohol addicts. pornography users do have parallels with substance use disorders. All right this is very annoying because of course I mean you can get the same MRI scans from people you know getting a ding that their Facebook is updated or their Twitter or something it's yes, of course people... these kids they got nothing better to do

1:31:36 You've got to give them something to do. That is actually the real problem here. Yeah, they got too much time on their hands There's no manufacturing it's all been shipped to Asia These kids have nothing better to do than literally Nothing better to do then jerk off all day! That's where the term jerk-off comes from The guys that jerk off because what did you do? Doing nothing Or wanker means the same thing in England and thats why these guys are called wankers insanity about these studies as resulting in some crazy stuff. We are doing such harm to our children and by the way I know people who listen to this show they just, you know...I know that you're taking this in and you're living your life differently which is probably why you come back and listen to this podcast

1:32:21 This is in Candinavia, once again. A new rule at an elementary school. When the sun comes out so do the kids at Coglan Fundamental Elementary School in Langley but the youngest ones have a new rule to follow They have now banned hands-on play with children in kindergarten. Hands-on play! No tag, no hugging, no touching at all... The no touching policy outlined in a letter sent home with kindergarten students on Friday I was shocked because I just can't imagine like little kids not being able to hug each other or help each other on the playground The letter says kids have been hurting each other on the playground so the school had to step in They asked the parents

1:33:06 Just tell their kids to not touch anymore at school. The letter says the school will have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to the new no touching rule Kids who break it will miss playtime or be sent to the office You know, it's play time! Apparently there isn't any Despite all of this, I really have high hopes for the future. I really do! No, I am...I'm really quite positive because we are evolving and these kids they're gonna see through this if US parents... I know there's a lot of parents listening. Hugging in the bathrooms? Yeah

1:33:44 It's, you know these kids are growing up. They are star children they're smart they're gonna see through this bullcrap uh disconnect your cable is a good start You know really really get rid of a lot of this television because it that it truly is not healthy and it is all I got I got a clip here Let me before you're done with that Let's stay with this topic for one second because I do have the Sun article, local paper in Langley BC and the... Oh you googled that quickly. I used to write for this paper years ago. Really? Parents apparently have backed it they say this is great we don't want the kids touching so this sounds like bullcrap but it's possible

1:34:29 apparently the real problem was, was the kids had this they like to link as you've seen kids do this. They form a circle they all grab each other in a circle and then they start spinning around in a circle and apparently a couple of the kids couldn't keep up and they were being dragged by the big group yes I'm telling...I was the kid you know we're not allowed to do dodgeball man I was the guy who always always Got the dodgeball to the face. That was me Always and then you know, we had this in hoc though I'm sorry We learned to duck at a gym because we had gym class did they still do Jim or is that too dangerous? It's too dangerous. We had these Wooden bricks so there was literally a it was at round corn your rounded corner So it wasn't sharp and it was glazed but we use these bricks You know They would set them up to do slaloms or stuff like that for gym class

1:35:23 And these of course would be outlawed now and we used to have them for dodgeball in the gym, in the auditorium. And you'd put the brick in front of you and so it was not just throwing you off but someone had to throw your brick. I swear to God they throw that and the brick would bounce up hit me in the face! I was that guy! Huh well you don't look the worst for wear but your nose is kind of swollen But I am doing a podcast So there's that All right, and you have a story that was an anecdote nobody really cared about but it was at least it was something I'm sorry It wasn't as good as working on the factory for with the guy we've shown you did no is the matter of fact. That's what it Alright, I'll make up for it. I'll make up for it now

1:36:07 Debbie Warsom and Schultz, have you seen this? I should ban you from talking about her but she's too important. She was on the Bill Maher show No that is not what this is from. This is being interviewed and of course it was about Obamacare And about, you know this is for those who don't know it's like the president said you won't lose your plan whatever so half are saying he lied. He didn't lie to mislead whatever man you know that's a but... So she now now this is a professional and this shows you how television works in America It's very very important because you think that she's just responding to questions

1:36:46 But she's not. She's reading from a script, she's on remote, she's not in the studio with the interviewer but she clearly either has a prompter I think she has a prompter because i see her looking straight ahead and don't see her looking down at anything And she misreads...She does the whopper of all misreads on this prompter that proves how fake this interview is. Did the president, congresswoman knowingly oversimplify this and provide an opening frankly for opponents of the ACA? You know Marco Rubio has exactly zero credibility when it comes to whether or not Americans should have access to quality affordable health care And whether or not Obamacare gets implemented So I think most people just discount what he says because he's done everything you can To try to slow it down or stop it At the end of the day

1:37:33 Americans were not only not mizeled by the president, the overwhelming majority of Americans are already insured. Americans were not mizeled? She misread misled and pronounced it mizeld Yeah, you can't. You don't say that in your brain you say that from reading and she's reading something it said misled and she said mizeled And if we go back... Not not not! I thought the prompter had stopped The prompter had stopped exactly that for you can hear the prompter has a malfunction I'll play that last bit again yeah you gotta play it again The prompter has a malfunction Actually keep that as evergreen that whole thing Not the whole thing That little part where she says not not not not not not not mizeled At the end of the day

1:38:17 Americans were not only not mizeled by the president, the overwhelming majority of Americans are already in trouble. Mizeled! That's Elle Sharpton! Normally she does this very well but this was I think of epic proportions. Mizeled everybody. Yeah well...I don't think much of her Oh, but it's not about her. So we got George Stephanopoulos taking over for Diane Sawyer Where is Diane? She was I think she is recovering...I don't know No idea But the way he sounds Hold on a second Play her jingle just for her sake The other ABC woman in rehab

1:39:13 So we have Stepanopoulos who is fairly good at ad-libbing, but I don't believe he's very good at prompter reading and I don't think he does a lot of it. Even though on the Good Morning America show you'd think that he does. But this is such a poor read that makes it sound as if Diane Sawyer isn't there because she's she's helping the president or something it just totally confusing he punches up the wrong words it makes the whole thing confusing and I just said what is this guy even saying? This is ABC World News with Diane Sawyer Reporting tonight, George Stephanopoulos. Good evening Diane is off tonight after a day of double trouble for the White House scrambling to defuse not one but two firestorms The president accused of making false promises even lying about Obamacare that was on one side of Capitol Hill On the other that spy scandal intensified with new calls for total stop to spying on friends

1:40:10 So what did the president know? How much damage has been done and what will he do now? ABC's chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl starts us off. He's not even trying No, he's walking through it but if you notice the beginning it sounds like Diane Sawyer has gone to the white house Yeah, it did sound like that To clean things up Now I have a second clip I want to get rid of because this clip reminded me of you Hey everybody! It's Freddy the Fire! Have you plugged your ports Jon? This is Stephanopoulos, one of the correspondents who I believe is a surfer. Oh! And the voice this guy does... Oh boy. ...which is borderline puker but it's not, It's a surfer voice and it's the kind of voice that you've been able to do over time. It's kind of the enthusiastic announcer-surfer guy and why is this guy a news reporter? It sounds like he's giving The Weather Report for The Wave at Huntington Beach Okay so I have not heard the clip

1:41:11 What is what is the report and I'll see if I can emulate it before we go into it? Remember to be honest idiotic Under fire for allegedly spying on Americans and America's friends, the nation's spy chief made no apologies. We do not spy on anyone except for valid foreign intelligence purposes and we only work within the law ABC News has confirmed reports U.S. intelligence has listened in on the phone conversations of the leaders of 35 American allies Hey! It is really cool he is listening to 35 American allies

1:41:48 Reports that today drew sharp criticism from top members of Congress in both parties. The reports are very disturbing Friends don't spy on friends, right? Yeah they do They do did you see Schmidt on this Oh, Schmidt was great. Eric Schmidt? Yeah I don't have a clip of it. I got a clip because he says something really important that i've heard a couple times now and it wasn't until I heard out of his mouth that I knew this was a coordinated meme It's really outrageous! That the National Security Agency was looking between the Google data centers if thats true The steps that the organization was willing to do without good judgment

1:42:29 to pursue its mission and potentially violate people's privacy is not okay. It's just not okay! So in that sense, the Snowden revelations have assisted us in understanding that it's perfectly possible that there are more revelations to come." Ahhhh... this is the ongoing meme. More revelations to come? And now why does he say it's perfectly possible? Why even throw that out there? That was like a non-sequitur line That's a great catch. You almost clip of the day with that one, because it is an out-of-the blue comment. It is essentially from our perspective as the TV production company, it is a teaser! Exactly Now why is he teasing the revelations to come? Well he knows something bad will be pointed at Google and just wants to set up to soften the blow

1:43:23 Well, we knew something like this. We mentioned it before and there's some interesting moves taking place So Sarah Harrison who is Julian Assange his girlfriend who has been With Snowden for the past couple of months in Russia. Did you see her sitting at the table? Did you see that table shot what a was a table shot It was a TV thing they never had there's no audio. Oh yeah, that said the award ceremony Yeah The the whistleblower awards that one no, no it was that what it was cuz didn't I think like they were in some crappy little yeah That's hell. Yeah, that's that's that's the award ceremony where Snowden got like a candlestick Okay. Yeah. Well anyway she sitting right there by his side. Oh boy well now she's at the head of the table She's at the but she's now in Germany

1:44:09 So this is very interesting what's happening. She also released a statement, now remember she's now I think she's probably looking for an apartment for her and Edward to shack up in and yeah i'm sure Julian has really pissed about all this Oh yeah so she is now in Germany we also have Laura Poitras We have Jacob Appelbaum who just did a speech at the CCS 2013 in Berlin which charged like 200 euros or something for people to go see him. You know, I guess his lifestyle is expensive. Sponsors at this speech, Bosch SAP National Institutes of Health Army Research Office National Science Foundation Cisco Intel Come on man! This guy is so compromised but okay you can't say that and she released a statement long statement

1:45:06 But there's some pertinent pieces and the thing that she, the meme that she propagates is the effective exile meme. She's saying that Poitras and Applebaum and herself are now in effective exile from their home- no, she's from the UK but they're effective exile from their hometown countries because of the spying which is bullcrap. It's total bull crap! And even worse I O'Error on Twitter Applebaum I O'Error on let's see...I have a tweet here from him

1:45:46 March 30th of March. Successful indication my birthday diving trip is off to a good start subsurface in Hawaii So he's just flying back and forth, he's not an exile but this is the thing we're ineffective exile These people are not to be trusted I hate to say it but there's not to me this is stinks Yeah, no I agree. I think it does stink and what's going on with Omidar and the thing with Greenwald and Scahill, Jeremy Scahill who might as well be in effective exile even though he is probably in New York City this whole thing is

1:46:31 It's not it's not well. We're all being played one way or the other I know we're being played Yeah, we're being played you don't know exactly by the point of is so they can make money That's the point of it. I mean come on what else there exactly? It's to make money It's for them that the meat it's not even cyber wars now. It's just cyber Just say cyber this limo company was hacked did you hear about this the company does booking and process payment processing for tons of limo firms for politicians and celebrities. Oh nice! I guarantee you this is what some of the revelations are about so the name of this company is um corporate car online

1:47:16 And not only were credit cards and other financial information data stolen on millions of customers, but also—and this is what's cool—who was smoking weed in the car? Because you know they feed it back right. You have to have a profile of your customer who puked in the car who was having sex in the car... This is gold right here baby! This is gold Gold, Gary. Gold I tell ya! So this is you know... God, Ted was so right and they were so screwed with all this stuff it's just hilarious just hilarious well it's all part of the dossier system that we've established Stasi style in the United States yeah

1:48:00 Yeah, everyone seems to be putting up with it fine. What was wrong with those East German people anyway that they couldn't deal with it? We're doing just fine with the same system! We're doing very well... I had a bunch of wimps. Hey big movie promotion on the way and I don't know if I talked with you about this months ago. I mean I'm talking like no not even much. I heard about this in when we were exiled ourselves so that was December last year I knew that this was coming down the pike and here it is. It's been described as one of the largest recoveries of looted art a collection of more than 1,000 paintings which includes the works of Picasso and Matisse has been found in the German city of Munich The hall is believed to have been confiscated by the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s according

1:48:52 According to the German magazine Focus, the paintings were found by tax inspectors who raided the property of a reclusive son of an art dealer two years ago. So the key there is 2 years ago this happened they discovered this two years ago and there's a lot more discoveries you're gonna see in the next four weeks tons of oh look we found this stolen piece of Nazi or Jewish art Jewish owned our Jewish created art that Nazis stole it and why? That's right, coming out in December the Christmas hit will be George Clooney's Monument Men where they go and find stolen art stolen by the Nazis. Great great great movie promotion everyone is all in They have no shame on this

1:49:46 Two years ago that this these five years ago reported Yeah And I have and I heard about this because I know some people who are actually working with Clooney on this and it's uh, I can just say it's some military sources in Europe Who's it is part of their job to actually find this stuff? It's a long complicated system But it's part of it and they have been working with Clooney directly for over a year So we have more to come, guaranteed. And it would be really cool if my source would just tell me like just one day before so we could just throw it out there? Tomorrow will be the report on this and that. It might happen. Yeah I thought that story was a little sketchy. I didn't associate with the Clooney movie but it's obvious what it is. Draw people's attention

1:50:37 And the first thing I heard this story was like wow that's interesting thinking it was a recent story Yeah, because that's the way they presented in the teasers. Yeah, yeah wonder how much art there is guys basements around Europe We can all be rich cuz of any Picasso's worth you know millions now Matisse is worth millions, millions like lots of millions and it'd be a nice little thing to have access to but well I just find probably not even stolen Nazi art it's probably just some guys collection who knows oh yeah well lot of people have bought these you know a lot of them were sold legitimately sold and people wound up with him but the fact that the BBC is touting this as some huge

1:51:17 revelation two years after the fact it's just to promote the movie I'm pretty sure Clooney agreed to do Nightline or something or whatever nightly news or whatever they have over there at the BBC yeah he'll discuss this as a real problemist. Do you remember my favorite event along these lines even though it was just a little bit before we started doing this show, there was a movie called Mothman about this mystical beast that would show up in North Carolina and elsewhere, and all sort of hell would break loose around the area. And there was show after show after show of experts discussing the real Mothman, this mythical beast that would be showing up like it's like that dog or something is in South America. It was all to promote his movie! Then once the movie came out and died

1:52:08 There was never mention of this month and year. It's over, it's over. Ever again! It's funny, Miss Mickey she is my canary in the coal mine for the National Treasure And she said that on NPR there was something about, there's a new rating system for movies and it's you know because of course we have the violence nudity appropriate for whatever ages but this is then how women are portrayed if they're portrayed in a sexist light more war on dudes stuff obviously. And I said, you know what's really sad is because the way Hollywood works and works in conjunction and the ownership structure quite honestly. You know Disney owns ABC and all like big conglomerates they own everything so we don't have movie reviewers anymore they're all dead

1:52:56 Remember you had a guy like, you know, you could trust him. You know, Siskel and Ebert Like this is a great movie nowadays we have movie reviewers but it's all... This is great no one says this sucks balls! We just don't hear it anymore there's no honesty zero The good movie viewers are gone this is true and the ones that are on And then you have to combine that with the entertainment shows Entertainment Tonight, Xtra and all the rest which which are part of the promotion system, they are paid to promote. They're not paid to condemn and so they promote stuff and then you have these segments, these entertainment segments that are on all the network works with some guy or other And what gets me is this fake interviews Oh yeah You got Brad Pitt sitting in a chair answering questions Right Then they cut back-and-forth to the interviewer who you never see with Brad Pitt ever

1:53:53 You might see a top shot where they were just sitting there for a second or something. Maybe, generally speaking you have Brad Pitt and the guy in the other chair and if they're in the same room which can happen I'm sure once in awhile generally speaking they are not in the same room Essentially a set and canned canned it's not as bad as it was in the radio days We've talked about before but the big where he had their big record with little answers, but it's pretty close I gotta take you there for second John just before we do our break which will be short today Two clips two clips. I have a longer clip But I think it'll be worth it

1:54:39 The first one is from the skeptics guide to the university familiar with this. This yeah, okay? What is that it's at a group was that into a podcast uh... let's take a look at it so i think it's got things and they do publications and bring it up to us every so often have so i i got a little clip of but two of those guys the doctors are talking about how you just need to shut up when it comes to science certainly never escaped your reality as also does the baseline respect for science i know that i don't understand the data i'd know that i can interpret myself or if

1:55:15 If I were to do it myself, there's time. I'm not willing to commit to doing it. I respect the meteorologists around the globe and I respect their education in that they're going to make a much better decision analysis conclusion everything better than I would ever do it. It is complicated you have to have a healthy respect for how complicated this science is Unless you understand it at an expert level, it really is folly to try to substitute your own understanding for the consensus of scientific opinion. But that's what people do! consensus of scientific opinion. Why don't they shut up? They don't understand it, this makes no sense and by the way go anybody out there to track down the meteorologist who was the founder of The Weather Channel and he's got a four-part YouTube video about how... And listen him is he full of crap too I mean is he full of crap or is not full of crap I mean everybody who was on that side of the argument gets

1:56:13 shut it aside as being skeptics or whatever and meanwhile everybody else is lockstep into the scam this cap-and-trade scam that is trying to be trying to make some money. So here's the clip you've led me right into it tonight on CNN and we knew this would happen eventually because it was a CNN production Pandora's Promise will air on CNN not in Europe by the way only in the United States of Gitmo This is the documentary that I went to see. Miss Mickey and I were the only two people in the entire theater, remember it came out on the same night as Bling Ring? And it's very poorly done and the concept is there are these established

1:56:58 Greenies who go on this journey and they come to appreciate, not only appreciate but become promoters of nuclear as an alternative to fossil fuel but also really as an alternative to solar and wind. So I think the director Robert Stone was on with Brolf And of course you need a counterpoint and they brought in Van Johnson. This is the perfect classic example of shouting down

1:57:37 saying it's dumb nuclear and you could we know that nuclear is not is Not people don't want to because they're afraid of it They've been frightened to death by Fukushima Frightened to death by Three Mile Island by Chernobyl the numbers have been inflated Tremendously in some of that as in this documentary, which is why it's worth watching the you know, there's all kinds of half-truths but really the The science being in and shut up slave coming out of Van Johnson was so despicable in this case And he brings in the whole cap and trade why we should not go with nuclear. If you will indulge if you want to stop let me know But I think it's a pretty...I just clipped a bit of it but it's a couple minutes Pretty interesting exchange between the director of this movie who is a concert an environmentalist

1:58:28 and Van Johnson. Well, it has changed my mind as well. I've been an environmentalist my whole life but it's 25 years of ethic failure on the part of the environmental movement to do anything to combat climate change and I think that the old definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. And frankly, I think the environmental movement is guilty of that

1:59:06 So, it's incumbent upon all of us to look put everything on the table. All clean energy sources and see what works and nuclear power produces prodigious amounts of electrical energy with no pollution, no CO2 And the more we looked at it, the more realized that almost everything we thought We knew about it was wrong and before we finish the clip reminder that John and I we've talked about The new reactors the new technology the breeder reactors a thorium reactors all this no nuclear waste There's tons of development since all these older systems have been in place. What about that van because you're an environmentalist? What do you think?

1:59:45 Well, I mean it's a fascinating film. In some ways what is weird is that the environmental movement is somehow being held up as the obstacle to nuclear power going forward Don't blame us people don't want the stuff in their backyard. I think anybody and our viewership would say hey Please put a nuclear power plant in my backyard. Yeah, hello. I'd like one John Would you like a nuclear power plan? The years at no cost yeah, I'll take one of those dump away to my backyard People are dumb dumb dump the waste in my backyard listen how he's talking looking at this Sierra Club or NRDC They're looking at Japan where they just had a massive failure part of the problem

2:00:27 The problem here is that nuclear power is incredibly expensive, especially when you have to deal with all the safety issues. You could make it less expensive! There's only one way to do that...you'd have a carbon tax or cap and trade to get it cost competitive. You know what? I know can't believe what he saying how do you slip that into the argument amazing what he just did there So, but to eat... This is the same kind of guy who will say the earth is going to burn up. We're all going to die Oh, but it's too expensive to do it with nuclear we can't do that Really? I mean if it's really that important and you think it's right, but oh, it's too expensive Bullcrap! We're gonna do it in a market-based way which I think that's what people want Oh market based like the subsidies we have for solar and wind like that market based van Then you've got to have a carbon tax Environmentalists have been fighting for carbon tax or cap and trade getting no money from anybody else So if you're going to attack somebody don't attack the environmentalist who are trying to get the cost of

2:01:26 uh... right to make clean air go forward that doesn't mean that's the weird thing about the film it is a very robert i had a lot on not to get the time added i'm not attacking environmentalist i am an environmentalist and everybody in my film as an environmentals i think if there are some of people to be held account it's the leadership of the environmental movement me just a couple days ago for the world's leading climate scientists including doctor james hansen wrote a letter to the leadership of the environmental movement pleading with them to support the development deployment of advanced nuclear technology to combat climate change and that letter has been met with dismissal and derision from the leadership, and I think it's... By the way i thought that was a pretty good move those four because that was a coordinated move with this showing of this film.

2:02:10 And it did make some headlines. It got to NPR, got to PBS... I thought that was...I thought it was...I was impressed! I think the most interesting thing said there Was that Hansen who is as far as I'm concerned solely responsible for the panic over CO2 Solely responsible and still the leading voice took the side of the nukes This is going to be interesting to see how this plays out because that does, that steps right in the way of the cap and trade carbon tax scam. Well wait until you hear how Van Johnson decides to treat this once he's kind of on a losing end it gets funny. And they've doubled down on this epic failure for 25 years I think it shows that the leadership of the environmental movement has passed its expiration date and young people need to take control of this movement hell yeah! and assert themselves

2:03:04 so that it operates in the interests of their... their interest and not the interest of the Cold War generation. Well, hey listen I'm all for new thinking. I think young people are all for new thinking but here's the thing the letter nobody can argue with that letter the letter says we should look into whether or not there can be this cleaner more advancing listen i'll tell you right now swallowing go on record if this magical solution that's being described now where there is no risk to anybody where it's cheap where its clean where there was no problem with waste with nuclear proliferation for weapons can happen, I'm for it. And when Puff the Magic Dragon shows up with that solution great but we have to deal right now... What an a-hole! This is completely... Hey Adam when Puff the Magic Dragon shows up then i'll listen to your crappy argument

2:03:57 Like wow the show clip that's a good one with the opposition That's coming to the nuclear that power we've got right now And that's really what people are concerned about if you've got some something besides the PowerPoint presentation That would work in the real world. I think people would love to hear about it The problem is it right now? The nuclear power We've got right now is very scary for people and I don't think you should be mad at people who afraid of the downsides your friend I'm not mad at anyone. Nobody in my film is advocating building more nuclear power plants like we had in the 1970s, and I urge people to watch the film because you'll see that we actually have developed these advanced reactors that consume their own waste where the very physics of them prevent them from suffering a kind of meltdown like we had with Fukushima

2:04:43 and Chernobyl, and Three Mile Island. So that would be impossible there's all kinds of exciting things that are happening in reactor technology the people just don't know about. Exactly! Well that was refreshing That was really refreshing There is a lot of things this is true JC, Buzzkill Jr. has a friend who's in the industry and he is always talking about this bull crap that comes out of the media. He tells me about it over dinner. See that is very heartwarming to me that young kids are onto this, they're on to the scam. A lot of them. Yeah that a lot... Well thank you John you've made me a very happy man I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab We have a few people very few people to thank for today's show i would hope uh this doesn't continue no one even made it rain i'm kind of disappointed don't get too do we because we really worked hard on that

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2:18:05 Today happy birthday from your buddies here the best podcast in the universe No nightings no changes. Oh nice by the way um Someone that mentioned this to me does that voting is going on for the the podcast awards and so we're nominated in Not two categories really I thought only one know too really oh We're in two categories. We're in the people's choice, which we'll never gonna win against some celebrity so that's out and news! We got in this time is news. News or politics? Podcast against a bunch of really crummy news podcasts I don't understand why we just don't walk away with that award Well first of all we don't do what every podcast is doing like go vote for us because you know it makes...it will really make no difference to our life

2:18:59 The only difference it'll make is for you the producer. And by the way, you're all producers so if you want to win the award which we'll share with you We will send it on a little rotation trip Right? Every single producer will get to have it for a day Yeah! and then you send it on That's a great idea by the way I like it Everyone takes a picture with it then you know what to do. Is there actually a trophy? I think they didn't have one last year, I think last year that there was not enough money for a trophy yeah it doesn't matter because as you know we are... We did get a plastic plaque from somebody yes i got uh no not a plastic plaque i got an Adam Curry best podcaster in the known universe

2:19:55 You gotta, you gotta throw it. Yeah of course it is expensive you can't be like doing like... Hey um wow the Reverend Manning had an interesting show. Ah we're going to the well! Well the well came to us uh here's the intro and then you tell me if you want to hear a little bit of this interview. Are you kidding me? What Are you kidding me? I love this guy. If the guy was... This guy, of course i want to hear it! We have a special guest now with an exclusive Mia Maria Pope who lived in Honolulu who is a contemporary of the Mac Daddy Obama she knew him as Barry Satoro uh in the early years there when he was a high school student

2:20:46 uh... and barry always according to what me is going to say to us in a few moments moments rather identified himself as pretty much as a foreigner and um... also has a cocaine smoking homosexual on the order of uh... richard prior type and uh... so she knew him conversated with him and is ready now to talk to the Manning Report about her relationship with the Mac Daddy. She calls him Barry Satoro back in the 70s. All right, would you like to hear some of this interview? Huh! This is interesting that they dug somebody up but yeah I'd love to hear it of course let's see what she has to say so this is Mia Marie Pope she seems pretty together actually and if doesn't go... What she said here sounds totally believable

2:21:43 And she doesn't sound like a kook. The whole thing is like 35 minutes or something, which is worth watching it. The Manning is just... he's just the funny guy. Just a very very funny guy and he's been around and he's not a big fan of President Obama. He wasn't really close within my particular circle of friends. He was a little bit older than me Isn't that older than I? No, you can say that. I think it's fine all right But it would be John and I write because people don't do that anymore You know there's a lot of controversy over the me and I thing nowadays Yeah is that what is that? Oh my who cares? I'm sorry didn't mean interest very much was within sort of gay Community which there is a thriving even back then gay community in that area particularly at the diamond head area

2:22:37 And we knew Barry as just common knowledge, that girls were never anything that he was ever interested in. As a young teenager and as a young girl it was clear to me that Barry was strictly into men and not that I had any designs on him or anything but he and I really didn't even get along because one of the his attributes that's still evident today is that he was even a pathological liar back then. I like that! Yeah, and i'm not kidding you every time this guy would open his mouth the most outlandish stories would come out of his mouth and so pretty soon we would just

2:23:26 We, I actually you know i'm going back over 30 years here but I remember us saying you know like Barry don't you ever get tired of lying? You know he was a pathological liar even then. He'd make me tired to sit there listening to him. Well what were some of the kinds of lies he would tell? Mia what are some of the lies just for an example of what where is it was just egotistical or was he lying about... Yeah Yeah, exactly Dr. Manning it was always some self-aggrandizing thing and I'm doing my best you know because i'm going back so far It's hard for me to remember a verbatim conversation You know I have very clear image memories but it was always something to egotistically boost himself that it was always something else What do you think? Does she sound for real

2:24:17 Well, she's the most reasonable sounding person we've heard complain about Obama. That's for sure. I like it, it makes sense... yeah, you're right, it makes sense as possible It doesn't-it's not outside of any of the realm of bullying ability The developing information that we've got about the guy over the years is not like off the wall Another minute He was You know he had this weird air where Like he used to go around bumming cigarettes from people I believe that father, he seems lik a total cigarette bummer You know what I mean? You know these people You don't cuz I never smoked. No, but as a smoker he totally like hey man Can I bum a smoke off you? I can see him do it which you know, I think we all did but the thing was with him is he would

2:25:08 Turn it on try to like see if he could get something off of you type thing and then as soon as you'd be stupid enough To give a hand on the cigarette. He's snapping an instant walk away You know what I mean, so he didn't actually have a lot of friends or anything really? he was just in the periphery and I had some gay acquaintances and And remember, you know this is the late 70s. I mean drugs were around and my favorite You know that lifestyle was just starting to really come to the forefront and as far as people were very out front with their personal behavior and

2:25:48 So, you know it was just always one thing or another with Barry. He just would seem to be incapable of being genuine or telling the truth about anything so that kind of turned us off but You know we were young teenagers were naive It's kinda like alright yeah Barry the liar whatever and then But we one thing that he did brag about now remember this is the late 70s This is before crack war crack was invented or if it wasn't that if we never saw around i've ever heard of it until the eighties so this was um... if you're gonna do cocaine it looks like in the power for men who were very expensive well here we are a bunch of broke teenagers and you know they'll because now the word to first somebody to practice they have this cocaine with you know somewhat newsworthy within our little click and he would

2:26:39 Sorry, he did that. He probably was telling the truth He would get with these older white gay men And this is how we just pretty much had the impression that that's how he was procuring his cocaine in other words He was having sex with these older white guys and that's how he was getting his cocaine to be able a freebase This manning is unbelievable Well, the term freebase is improperly used there which kind of bothers me. But yeah this is the kind of thing that isn't... This has taken it to the max with Manning I have to say. It's useless! The guy's in office until he's done so what? So what?! Well Manning has a show to do him He's got a ministry to run and needs donations and money. I get that

2:27:27 Yeah, she's pretty good. Yeah no I thought I'm gonna listen to the whole thing if it could how long much longer is it? Oh no that's all I have does the now that's all but I felt was necessary The whole thing by saying how long is 30 minutes 35? I'll check it out. It's in the show notes 5 6 3 dot any show notes calm. I have just a couple things Euro land it looks like There's a poll out or the poll will be released next In Greece, Golden Dawn party looks like it's first place. You know of course whenever something is popular then it's always deemed far-right Nazi I don't live there...I don't know anybody there but I have a feeling that this may not be as Nazi as its being portrayed Neo Nazis! Well why is the whole country behind him then? And there's this um an EU we're talking about tolerance stuff and in EU

2:28:29 Member of Parliament has sent a letter out that says he's so concerned about what's happening in all these countries with the far-right neo Nazis rising to power hating people with no intolerance that they may want to, and this is I don't know if it's even possible. They are talking about possibly postponing the 2014 European elections, European Union elections Now Nigel Farage...I don't have any clips from him but he is standing up in front of everybody and saying hey there's a big force coming and you're all gonna get voted out And it just may be true

2:29:11 Now that is the one thing that the Europeans can actually do if they really en masse all go and vote, and vote out all these douchebags so that they can then not elect these other douchebags who are not elected. They're just appointed a change could take place it seems like there is you know the media of course is fighting it very very hard calling everyone neo-nazi racist you know hater haters regular cards yeah So that's how it's done. That's how we stop people, but it looks like Greece is just... they're in such... they have no prospect of getting another strike. Just ongoing the public broadcasters

2:29:54 They stayed in the studio and continued to broadcast for months, and now they were thrown out this morning with tear gas. So they set up a new public broadcasting system which of course is friendly to the Troika who have taken over but the old guys they just said screw it we're staying here we're just gonna be on the internet doing podcasts from their studios and they locked the doors and barricaded! They've been there for months broadcasting quote-unquote The Truth today the military police went in and threw them all out. And that's how, that's your EU freedom of speech people! I'm kind of excited about the idea that there may be finally this groundswell... That people are just in Europe it's like they've had enough you can only push so far.

2:30:50 You've had enough when this so-called super state, the EU isn't performing. They're failing. The Greece situation is the best example. Greece was fine! You know it was up and down, it had its normal foibles. Greece has always been somewhat weird but since the EU came along and especially the Eurozone Greece has been in terrible shape and the same can be said for Spain Portugal and Italy to some extent And now, you know, Moldavia wants to get in on it. You know they want to become part of the EU and so they...you know it's shifted the way that finances are they got to give money to these little operations that just trying to get some free money and then taking it away from some of the old established countries and this is not this is idiotic! It's just the craziest thing I've ever seen. I'm stunned its gotten this far. Stunned! Yeah

2:31:48 Well Greece also they got this rap that they were lazy a-holes which was totally untrue. No, they are the most productive... They worked the hardest! The most hours ever! They're the most productive individuals within the EU and I think they're more productive than we are We've been whipped into shape and we're very productive Americans and I think the Greeks are at least as productive, maybe more. I'm not sure where we sit in comparison but they're the tops in Europe so there's a productive group of people that work hard and long if they have work which they don't because all their jobs taken away from them which makes me even more frustrated then you portray him as a bunch of lazy jerk-offs

2:32:32 Yeah, that was the worst I think because people in the northern parts of Europe started to buy into it. Like yeah lazy a-holes taking our money... Now the northern part of your especially Germany they're very susceptible to brainwashing and they have a history of doing that very well. Oh this just in US Senate approves ENDA 64 to 32, so I guess the Senate voted on their version of the bill. This is... My God this is gonna happen!

2:33:09 No, no the House will vote it down. Of course the house will vote it down but I'm just saying the propaganda will be Republicans hate gays this is totally gonna happen. That's why Senate voted for it they voted you can bet lockstep Democrat because they know it's a scam and they know the house isn't going to vote for us there's no fear from their constituents that don't like some of it, like you explained perfectly. And then the House will vote it down and all the Republicans refuse! All those Republicans! I think the Republican should vote in and let everybody swing in the wind that would be great Okay from inside sources I can tell you that the TED Talks will be drone week on November 18th

2:33:59 And it is now more or less official that the CIA is going to keep running the drone program. It will not be handed over to the Pentagon and Department of Defense as previously promised. Yeah, there must have been some legal decision... Well yeah, the Department of Defense can't drone people without certain congressional approval and declaration of war The CIA can just do whatever they want Right So that's your buddy John O'Brennan there. Not your buddy, but... I don't have a clip list today No cliplets? No cliplets? I just had one little thing that I thought was kind of interesting it came up the other evening at dinner actually There is this study out about obesity and its from the University of Seattle And the study is from a guy named Michael Skinner who is up there and its about DDT

2:35:01 And this study, which they did with rats said it's... It looks like it's possible according to the new study exposure to the synthetic insecticide DDT might have set off a genetic chain reaction causing one's grandchildren great-grandchildren and generations beyond to become obese. I'm like why is what is this stuff? Why is this happening in this study Now we've talked about DDT. DDT was a lifesaver it saved, after the Second World War I think it saved Italy literally from people being eaten alive by all kinds of critters and of course in Africa is where it really helped

2:35:49 It saved millions of people's lives from malaria, but then all of a sudden because I think and we've talked about this many years ago on the show John Because it probably was so cheap to make and so effective and the inventor of it He would eat it on television wasn't that what the guy was doing like yeah? There was a guy that was constantly eating it on television. But there was it was supposedly banned because it created a Cancerous is what I always learned no no no it was birds Right. There was all the, yeah there's always the cancer but it was birthed they were killing eagles and pelicans Oh right the pelicans you're right Because it would screw up their eggshell But if you ask anyone today educated people DDT oh no that's cancerous No it has never been cancerous That will be your answer I guarantee you thats the answer

2:36:45 And so I'm looking at this, and like why is this DDT study? Who gives a crap we don't use it anymore. And then I was like wait a minute... who is against DDT? The Gates Foundation! Their big thing is malaria and they'll do everything for the malaria vaccines and all the stuff they're working on in Africa And so, and it took me like two minutes to make the connection. This Skinner has been funded to the gills by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation! I'm like oh this makes nothing but sense there's probably someone is going to start talking about DDT this may have been it may be preempted at this point because as far as I know it was really... It worked but they killed pelicans and we had to get rid of it

2:37:37 And now we have this study which someone didn't kill pelicans it made it so their eggs were so fragile they couldn't reproduce. That's right the eggs oh my god that was coming back to me God you know that well um, So I have a feeling that there may be some other Study or something was coming out and we'll have to be on the lookout for it again It may have been preempted at this point that made this necessary because why else do we need to have a study? about DDT and rats, and how it makes people obese which of course is the problem of our generation I'm throwing it out there because I know that our producers are all over this kind of stuff And they find things and it digs to stuff up.

2:38:22 Which is what you guys do best, quite honestly. So I do have a clip that was interesting and if this got much play in the United States that apparently Australians are spying for the US which i think it's peculiar but we've kind of taken over that place and using as a test bed for cap-and-trade carbon taxes putting our military up there and I guess now using their embassies to store our gear a spying gear. Anger over US spying has spread to Asia after documents from Snowden revealed U.S and foreign embassies across East and Southeast Asia are housing equipment for US surveillance Indonesia summoned its Australian ambassador today after it was revealed the Australian embassy in Jakarta is a hub for the u.s spy efforts yeah all right I got a couple on those because i got a little mini cliplets for you

2:39:35 There was a three hour actually three sessions of the privacy and civil liberties board These are the guys who are going to decide, you know What is up what is the guy's in women? I think there's one or two women on the board Who've been appointed by the president to decide, you know, what is enough spying. What does what is prudence? What is good screw the Constitution who cares about the Fourth Amendment we here on the board will tell you all about it and One of the people on the board is James Baker And here's what he thinks about our FISA court. In many ways I would say, notwithstanding much of what has been written in the press, the FISA Court is a national treasure it has done its job in an exemplary fashion during wartime Nice! National treasure John During war time? That's what he said

2:40:27 What wartime? Is there a declared war we are unaware of, are we having to do rations, do have to ration our gasoline, do have to turn in our aluminum pots for the war effort. No pantyhose for you! And then I was... Leahy so there's uh we have Feinstein has entered her her bill which will solidify the spying efforts and Leahy has entered his USA Freedom Acts, a very interesting fellow this Leahy. Of course we know that he is the one that busted Kaiser Alexander on the 54

2:41:09 number, but he kind of led me down to two interesting paths. One that I had not expected first here He is in this interview literally debunking we thought it was 13 legitimate attacks that had taken place that were thwarted by the fantastic efforts of the NSA turns out It was a little bit less than that. He's very happy to comply and tell us about it though The head of the National Security goes around saying well, we've thwarted 54 Well nobody ever called him on it when I held hearings We started calling on him. Now at this point, he's in a hearing and has to tell the truth It went from 54 to maybe a dozen to finally ended up by saying well it was instrumental in helping the FBI thwart one case Let's stop the plummet Could we make us safer if we have a person follow every single American? Every single minute of day possibly But do we want that? No

2:42:05 I mean, we will always face threats in this country. But the greatest threat should not be from our own government prying into every single one of our secrets with no accountability whatsoever and we saw that to give the secrets away to a 29 year old subcontractor is just like another branch of government which gave away some of our most important secrets when a private first class wrote them on his Lady Gaga and walked off with them. No, these are not... They shouldn't have every single one of our secrets it's not making us safer they might want to give they may want to twist the statistics to make it safer nobody who really has studied this can say this has made us safer

2:42:49 Again, I'm just delighted with the honesty that is coming out here. That's really nice! This is something you don't hear very often No you don't hear it very often at all In fact you don't hear it at all because nobody plays these sorts of things and so its all marginalized Yeah you know it, I know it no agenda listeners know it And the public doesn't know. If you go into any casual conversation, you'll run into this kind of naivete. Oh yeah 54-54-54 and there's no second thoughts about it. No this is nice to hear. There's no surprise. Now then he said something which... It was not refreshing at all to me. It was depressing. Well buzzkill

2:43:32 Then he said something which I kind of caught me off guard, didn't quite understand and looked into it and learned something which we were unaware of. Can you pinpoint the very moment that you changed your mind about this government surveillance programs? And you decided these programs needed to be curbed I'll never really change my mind. I thought in the Patriot Act, uh...I pushed to make it a lot tighter than it was and I joined with the conservative Republican leader of the House Dick Armey to put sunset provisions in that's one reason we now have this debate because it forced Congress to review it periodically okay so what he said there is we put sunset

2:44:16 measures in there which is forcing us to have this debate. Yeah and the problem is every time they have the debate because it expires every couple years, they add more stuff to it! But wait... This thing was just renewed he wasn't- this is what I figured out He wasn't talking about The Patriot Act. He was talking about the amendments the actually in this case, the FISA amendments. In 2004 I didn't know this and this is what i got and I have the documents of course in the show notes...in 2004 they added three amendments to the FISA Act which of course all falls into the Patriot Act And this kind of blew me away One of them is The Lone Wolf Amendment Did you know about this?

2:45:13 I don't know about, i don't know that i knew about it being called the Lone Wolf Amendment so probably not. Yeah and this is 2004 and i thought this was just something the media had made up but now i'm starting to understand uh... This is provision 6001A simplifies the evidentiary standard used to determine whether an individual other who engages in international terrorism may be the target of a FISA court order does not modify other standards used to determine the secondary question, or whether that's surveillance. Historical context... The impetus for the lone wolf provision involved Zacharias Moussoui one of the individuals believed to be responsible for the 9-11 terrorist attacks

2:45:58 During the examination of the events leading up to the attack, it was reported that investigations regarding Massawi's involvement were hampered by limitations. Specifically FBI agents investigating...FBI agents suspected he had planned a terrorist attack involving piloting commercial airlines but he had no connection to a terrorist group." So all this propagation of The Lone Wolf is something more John than just a media term It is really how we can use the FISA amendment to spy on people who have no relation to terrorism and possibly, ultimately know foreign status but could be citizens of the United States. And this is up for renewal in about a year. Yeah this is typical... This is the stuff that FBI's good at trying to make their job so easy

2:46:51 By putting in all these provisos where you can now you can, you know essentially violate the normal police Protocols and just grabs stuff and find some do whatever you want to do. Yeah I'd do whatever you want to do without having to do any real work I just thought that was a problem. Alright, and then finally he says something that i'll just respond to and that will be my final thought for the show We've reached the point where there seems to be this attitude if we can do it, we should do it no matter what it does your privacy No matter what it does uh... to your sense as an American That you're left alone The NSA says because we could collect every one of your phone calls and virtually everything else You gotta be able to do in case someday we need it

2:47:36 Well, you can imagine what it would be like if the local police department said we're just going to break into your house and steal everything out of your files and out of your records because someday we may need it. Everybody's been up for it." But they could do the same thing electronically. We ought to say, wait a minute... And what I want to say there is build your own data house! Build your own electronic house and get off of these systems getting you know Get off of Google if you can't get off of Gmail get off of Yahoo Mail get off of it You don't need it Just get off of it, and then you have the equivalent of someone breaking into your own home now These guys are handing it over and getting paid for it learn how to do that. That's all I have to say well That's fine I'm really I'm really upbeat today I'm feeling like we've got the Europeans or are getting in and starting to make some noise And I'm hearing you know some truth here and there I'm liking it. I'm feeling pretty good about everything It's all obscure

2:48:44 You're not feeling so good. No, everything you've pointed out in this regard that you just described is all obscure it's like nobody else we get ten people that know about the Leahy commentary plus our audience yes exactly and but they know most of this already So its just still fixed and I think the way donations are going apparently our audience is shrinking so there's less people who knows so I don't know I'm not happy All right, well hopefully we can make it rain on What just manage it trying to try to get put you down on the bummer like a last show. Hey Thanks dude I Can't manage today Sunday. I'll have a clip blitz that will make everyone think twice about everything all right Sinking up my Bitcoin to the blockchain here in Austin Texas FEMA reason didn't six see the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and

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