Episode 532 · Sunday, 21 July 2013

Red Cell

A thriller novelist exposes government terror simulations while Washington power brokers clash over military intervention and the legal definition of digital treason.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 33m listen | 42 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 532

About this episode

Author Brad Thor reveals his participation in the Department of Homeland Security's Red Cell program, a secretive initiative recruiting creative thinkers to simulate catastrophic terrorist scenarios. Thor describes the Las Vegas-style confidentiality of the program, which the security apparatus allegedly uses to dream up new threats that justify expanded surveillance. Meanwhile, Senator John McCain threatens to block the re-nomination of General Martin Dempsey after the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff refused to endorse kinetic military strikes in Syria.

In the wake of Detroit filing for bankruptcy, archival audio from 2012 surfaces of President Barack Obama claiming his administration refused to let the city fail. The economic stagnation extends to Amsterdam, where pop-up stores fill vacant storefronts with bankruptcy inventory while merchants transition to card-only pin systems that reject American credit. Domestically, the TSA faces fresh scrutiny as an agent at a New Jersey airport is caught stealing electronics from checked luggage, and Congressman Frank Wolf reports that Benghazi survivors are being forced to sign new non-disclosure agreements to prevent Congressional testimony.

The media landscape shifts as police photographer Sean Murphy releases unauthorized, bloodied images of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to counter a controversial Rolling Stone cover. In the world of entertainment, HBO's The Newsroom faces criticism for elitist historical revisionism, while the Disney-produced Marvel Superhero Squad is accused of embedding climate change propaganda in children's programming. Finally, former Senator Gordon Humphrey breaks ranks to support Edward Snowden, as the Bradley Manning trial explores a legal theory that publishing leaks online constitutes aiding the enemy.


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CHAPTER 01 / 42 Discussion

Delta and KLM Flight Logistics, Luggage Weight Scandals

A traveler describes a flight from Austin to Amsterdam via Atlanta, noting the discrepancies in baggage allowances between Delta and KLM code-share flights. An anecdote details a confrontation at the airport counter over a suitcase weighing 56 pounds against a 50-pound limit, resulting in a manual transfer of items between bags. A similar experience on Lufthansa is recounted where removing a two-pound laptop from a bag satisfied a strict weight limit.

amsterdam· klm· delta airlines· austin· luggage fees· weight limits

00:00 what i thought was a snide style. above the massage parlor with the purple lights in Amsterdam. Gitmo Nation, Lowlands In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i am three stories above the driveway I'm John C. DuBois It works, kind of. I think... Seems to! Oh man it's challenging Here we are in the lowlands Local time here 6pm I am jet lagged beyond belief Why?

00:47 Well, we arrived yesterday morning at 8 a.m. You're supposed to sleep going east! Yeah... We slept for I don't know four hours on the plane maybe? More than enough No it really wasn't enough Also you booked KLM That was Friday this is Sunday No but it was-we left Friday and we arrived Saturday morning Right, right. So you know it's a day to recover and we also in your book KLM or at least you think your booking KLM but then actually it turns out that you're flying Delta Oh Delta! Who really don't give a crap about you Enough said I gotta say And so there is so much wrong They are supposed have these friendly skies I guess they all part of the same company That was United The friendly skies of United Yeah thats what it was

01:40 So you're allowed... Yeah, no Delta is the nasty skies. Well here's what funny so you're allowed to when you fly from Austin to Amsterdam through Atlanta with Delta which is code shares with KLM whatever You are allowed to take two bags per person When you fly back from Amsterdam to Austin your only allow to take one bag per person What? Why? No one can tell me! No one has an explanation why and not that it matters because we uh... we both have one bag but you know i made this big stink with mickey about the simply it's going to be exactly fifty pounds in no way anybody where your boss weighing just forty four pounds into their waited at austin airport is where they wait a really yeah and as like well you know if you can go over by two pounds and you might my suitcase which was funny because i'd i thought i waited exactly fifty pounds

02:37 My suitcase was like 56 and said, well no you... Oh that there are scales or I'm telling this is a scandal. Yes! So we actually had to take four pounds out of my suitcase and put it into her suitcase. I swear to God while were standing there at the counter It's insane One time i was doing this on Lufthansa Yeah And uh I put the bag down they weigh it its like I think it was like a 44 pound limit or something like that yeah and he goes ehh You're over two pounds It's 46 pounds and I said, well hold on a second. I opened the bag and took the laptop out which was a 2 pound laptop And held the laptop under my arm and put the bag back on He said okay you're good to go. I pulled the bag off Put the laptop back in the bag Yeah Perfect it's so stupid

CHAPTER 02 / 42 Discussion

TSA Theft Scandals, Security Checkpoint Opt-Out Tactics

Reports indicate a TSA agent was caught stealing cameras and electronics from checked luggage over several years at a New Jersey airport. The discussion covers "Blogger Bob" of the TSA denying that valet car searches are standard procedure despite local reports. One traveler shares a successful "opt-out" tactic at security by claiming an inability to lift arms, resulting in being waved through a deactivated magnetometer.

tsa· freedom international airport· blogger bob· security theater· magnetometer· amsterdam

03:27 Anyway, good news. I think it was ABC. They had this guy on who apparently had been stealing for five or six or seven or eight years, he was a TSA guy and when you check your luggage they go through the luggage and pull out the cameras... This is at Jersey of course. Of course, Freedom International Airport. Yeah, freedom of any ownership of your own property. Yeah, and this is just the guy going on. I'm just saying you're lucky you got there with your equipment The culture became a little stealing was okay in the TSA? They didn't think it was okay but they did it and said I don't care They ain't paying me they treatin' me wrong doing this and that...I just don't care

04:21 just didn't care. But then when people started saying they could profit off of it, then it became massive. You weren't the only one. Alright so a couple things about the TSA first of all blogger Bob you know that the TSA blogger So he posted a story about the airport where they have the valet guys searching cars. And so blogger Bob comes out and says, this is not standard procedure. This is only local. The TSA is not searching your car. I mean yes! The TSA was literally telling the valet to search cars and he's... Blogger Bob is like oh no this is only a local thing it's like you know that up to the airport and they're so full of crap and to prove it Miss Mickey and I both did the arms-not over-the-head deal both of us

05:22 and got through. I gotta tell you, when you listen to no agenda your travel life becomes so nice and lovely. Yeah for the 10 seconds that you saved! Well it's not ten seconds because opting out is a 20 minute ordeal Well, it depends on the airport. So we both went through separate lines and I had never done this...I'd never done the hey man like that. I really played it up too! Hey man, I'm sorry but I can't lift my arms above my head and the guy looks at me goes really? Like yeah he says okay go through there any motions to the magnetometer which was off

06:06 And like through there. What? Seriously, and I said through there and he says yeah through there. And I let him repeat it. And I walk through pick up my bag you know and like I don't put sling it over my shoulder obviously and that was it good to go! The magnetometer was off John It was off Really? Yeah. That's very careless. Yeah so I had no idea about if Mickey's was on or not but she went to a different line because obviously we figured it might not be such a good idea to both yet that you think if two tall blondes who were both involved in a very strange the text of ritual yeah and do either one of us can actually move our arms or neck exactly it's it is huge issue I'm now they're worth it worked perfectly and then arriving of course its people airport in amsterdam you flip on the flip on the old

07:02 a wifi device there, pick up our new agenda free wifi or hidden wifi networks. Perfect! It's just beautiful it makes you feel so powerful It does! Yeah. It does! You bullshit your way through the line and turn on some free Wi-Fi, I'm the king of the world! Hell yeah! I sure am going in a private jet would have been a little more along those lines. Well that's not for us... And here we are with uh... Did you fly coach? Are you kidding me?! He must have upgraded somehow he must have some upgrades No no there were um i think where plastic level on the KLM points.

CHAPTER 03 / 42 Discussion

Amsterdam Airbnb Accommodations, Dutch Economic Stagnation

A traveler describes staying in a third-floor Airbnb apartment above a massage parlor in Amsterdam during a heat wave. Observations of the local atmosphere suggest a period of economic depression similar to the United Kingdom, characterized by high unemployment and a stagnant housing market. The local population is described as appearing "drunk" or in a "waiting room" state due to the lack of economic movement.

amsterdam· airbnb· klm· heat wave· unemployment· housing market

07:44 No, I always pay the extra like 50 bucks or whatever to get comfort class which really is meaningless quite honestly. It depends on the airplane and American they do have a lot of leg room in those planes at least last time they were doing it. It's definitely a couple inches more. You're probably too tall for regular seats. Yeah so we wound up getting this seat which was right behind business class really because they don't have first-class anymore on KLM or Delta and so we're right next to the door right next to galley and so he had nothing in front of us which was ok yeah and and although sometimes you gotta be careful because you get the flight attendants were yapping all flight and it is sit there in a gally normal global movement that wouldn't we don't have got the flight attendant we didn't have that luckily something everything's okay with his good news they had leg room then your in good shape uh... yeah i was okay alright units yet it's not quite uh...

08:42 It's not quite flying with the private jet, but you know and then of course we're in an Airbnb apartment which is yeah You've got a good connection though. Oh Okay knock on wood Connections okay? Connections are the guy gave me two he said well if this one you know craps out Then here's my sister who lives downstairs you can use her Connection oh and we literally are three floors up above the massage parlor. It's kind of ghetto, and everything would be okay except the problem is it's twenty... what is that? Eighty degrees I think. It's really beautiful but these houses obviously don't have air conditioning so I'm sitting here just sweating away. The ultimate podcast device is running hot. Everything's hot!

09:37 I'll tell you, I turned it on and immediately didn't work because i've been using this jump wire and all the elements are loose. We're lucky to be on the air at all essentially. Well that's good to know! But it's been fun, it has been really interesting being here in Amsterdam even for the day and a half that we have been walking around. I learned couple of things first of all is becoming more and more like United Kingdom here where everyone's just so depressed about not having a job and no one can sell their house. Everything is in some kind of... like in Irons, I think we talked about this before, it's like a big waiting room and everyone was just like, I don't know what's going on? So everyone's drunk! And that's really good because you have summer and everybody is drunk, they're like, hey, yeah, I'm just gonna drink

CHAPTER 04 / 42 Discussion

Bay Area Housing Price Surges, Google Stock Performance

Median home prices in Alameda County have reportedly jumped 44% in a single year, with properties previously valued at $280,000 now entering escrow for $400,000. Google reported disappointing financial numbers leading to a 5% stock drop, prompting claims that the online advertising industry is a scam driven by fraudulent "audience acquisition" clicks. The search engine's quality is criticized for being over-saturated with advertisements and bogus review sites.

alameda county· bay area· real estate· google· online advertising· fraud

10:38 Interesting. While you're all depressed here, might as well play one more of my clips! Okay I think this will cheer them up. Play boosting housing! Housing prices. Alright let's go. Elizabeth 33% that's what the median price of a home has gone up in the nine bay area county June to June just in the last year but you said it Alameda County a whopping 40 4% jump over one year. For some people they were in the water now there are underwater, now they're way above in fact refinancing and happy about it here's a good example this house $280,000 dollars a year ago

11:16 is in escrow right now at four hundred thousand what's multiple offers and there's really no end in sight wait a minute this must be the land of twitter and where all the rich a-holes hang out exactly wow and that house they showed by the way it was worth to it looks like a crap hole one hundred thousand dollars like you know it during the peak a hundred thousand dollar dump this is going to last you know i mean did you see google's number of those up because they are not as much as my kids it's gonna and unseen google so google had this horrible they reported horrible numbers uh... in their stock was down five percent which i guess if your whole google stock that's like a thousand dollars off the price of his share or whatever um... but i think i think that we're seeing the ends

12:03 you know did everyone knows that uh... online advertising on the internet is a scam if you look at google's numbers but the cost of for them to acquire all these when they call it costs and audience acquisition costs which means paying about why i don't go doing that really it's like a bunch of guys in india you pay to sit in a room and click stuff it's not yet until either there is a friday so it's a fraud it's coming down john and i i'd i would go short On Google, I think that they're going to be in big trouble. It's a search engine. Why do they have to even do that? People are gonna be searching, they have to search, they have to use Google I don't get it...I think maybe they targeted too high or something Or they really expect it just keep growing or.. I don't know what the deal is with them I do know that searches aren't as good as they used to be No, the searches aren't as good I mean there noticeably crappy I've had some... I searched for something and every single one of the hits was an advertisement for some bogus review site

CHAPTER 05 / 42 Discussion

Personal RSS Feed Aggregation, Google Search Quality Decline

A custom-built "freedom controller" system is described, which aggregates over 700 RSS feeds into a searchable database, outperforming Google for specific research tasks. The discussion highlights how Google has drifted from its original mission of providing fast, clean search results by adding excessive JavaScript, ads, and Google Plus integration. The host suggests that Google's focus on driverless cars and Google Glass is a distraction from their declining core product.

rss feeds· google· bing· data aggregation· nsa· search engines

13:14 I mean it was unbelievable. I could not find what i was looking for using Google, and found it on Bing. You know... I don't like being in and people who are like Eric DeShill he's been looking at studying these bots yeah and he says things sucks right well I have this you know we call the freedom controller which is kind of my you know that Dave Jones one our producers we put this together over the past year-and-a-half and it aggregates feeds and has a has your own RSS feed, etc. But what we've been doing is I subscribe to 700 feeds probably and if anyone ever adds something to the NOAgenda News Network if you add an RSS feed that automatically it's added to my feeds and I can unsubscribe but usually its interesting but ever since we put this thing in place for a year-and-a-half now the aggregation of every single one of those feeds has been stored into database

14:10 These feeds are you know, they're good quality feeds and you know It also includes the BBC and some other mainstream stuff but also all of the kind of fringe So if I want to look for something like a one-man NSA. I'm telling you I use that search box that we have on this thing And I'm finding stuck because of course you never can read all these feeds But it's all aggregated is all stored and it's unbelievable how much better my own little system does than Google Oh, yeah Yeah, that would be disappointing. This is all Google does! I mean this is their job. But they're not doing the right job for me Of course they do return results fast and you have to admit when you... That was always what Google was known for by the way

14:59 They were known for fast. Remember that was like the main thing in the early days of Google? You'd hit it and be like... Yeah, because they were right on one of the main pipes. Not only that but they had no colors, no ads, no Google Plus crap loading everywhere, no JavaScript and all this stuff. Right. They've run so far off their mission. That's alright but all I'm saying is This too can come falling down. Google, the big beautiful giant who has hoodwinked their investors into thinking they're doing something great for the future with driverless cars and Google Glass... It's a scam! You can quote me on that. Well you could just generalize it or whatever

CHAPTER 08 / 42 Discussion

Harry Reid, Global Warming and Western Wildfires

Senator Harry Reid, supported by Chuck Schumer, attributed devastating wildfires in Southern Nevada, Colorado, and California to climate change. Reid claimed the West is being devastated by millions of burning acres because the climate has shifted. The commentary suggests these claims are politically motivated "douchebaggery" and notes that such fires have been a constant occurrence for decades.

harry reid· chuck schumer· wildfires· climate change· nevada· california

22:12 No, we're gonna fly. It's cheaper to fly! That makes no sense... the place is riveted it just gets criss-crossed with rail why wouldn't it be cheaper take a train? It is, it's just cheaper to fly I looked at it and its just cheaper Well that doesn't make any sense what we've been told Anyway, so yeah. So Europe is in the middle of a heat wave The UK is expecting hundreds of people to die Of course it's all global warming obviously In fact I got a clip here from... This is Harry Reid

22:55 Democrat douchebag who I was just running through you know my more normal sources to see what you know, you know C-SPAN stuff and And I don't know exactly what the occasion was but Chuck Schumer was behind him with that You know Cheshire cat grin while Harry Reid was saying this. I am NOT going to beat around this folks The West is being devastated by wildfires Millions of acres are burning. Millions of acres have burned We had the largest fire that I can remember in Southern Nevada It's been burning for, uh...I don't know, I think 16 days. 16 days! It's about out now but it took a long time we have a fire burning in the north announced today near Palm Springs California A fire

23:50 Colorado they're burning all over why because of the climate has changed the winters You could just hear him going for it. You know, it's like let me just give you all these horrible fires Why because the climate has changed my friends? We're all going to burn when I was a kid They had these fires constantly Yeah, no still wait for the hills outside of Petaluma to go up in flames Are you driving up there today? Yeah. Don't throw your cigarette out the window then! Well, it's a good thing I don't smoke then. And happy Captive Nations Week John this is brand new from our president

CHAPTER 09 / 42 Discussion

Obama Proclamation, Captive Nations Week and Syria

President Barack Obama issued a proclamation for Captive Nations Week, reaffirming the U.S. role in advancing human rights and democracy worldwide. The document emphasizes universal rights regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation. Critics interpret the timing and language of the proclamation as a prelude to military intervention in Syria under the guise of delivering freedom.

barack obama· captive nations week· human rights· syria· democracy· iceland

24:30 I'm glad he's come up with some new ideas. Yeah, this one was a little interesting it came through It came through this morning and I have to apologize. I can't...I'm having a problem seeing I don't know if i put my glasses on I have to sit too far back and without my glasses like that can't quite get close enough But let me read this to you as citizens of the oldest democracy on earth which by the way is that true? The oldest democracy on earth as far as I know is Iceland. Well, it says right here proclamation by the President of United States of America As citizens of the oldest democracy on earth We've sorry Iceland we believe that all people are created equal with certain inalienable rights including life liberty and the pursuit of happiness

25:21 Together, we have kept that most basic promise shining bright for more than two centuries. Upholding civil rights and expanding their reach advancing freedom's march and widening the circle of opportunity for all." Is he talking about what? Well that is the prelude! The rest of the world attention be very afraid Our commitment to universal rights is also a foundation for American leadership abroad. In the course of our nation's history, countries worldwide have pledged themselves to a universal declaration of human rights. Corrupt dictatorships have given way to new democracies focusing on the stale air of authoritarian rule with a fresh breath of freedom." Essentially

26:08 What he's saying here is that, here it is. Captive Nations Week is an opportunity to reaffirm America's role in advancing human rights worldwide This means we're up to no good And were giving a whole week and were going to force this down somebody throat It is a task that can begin here with the example we set and the understanding that we are stronger when all our people are granted opportunity no matter what they look like. No matter what they LOOK LIKE? Yes!

26:44 Well, he goes on where they worship or who they love. So if you're black if you're white If your red yellow if your Muslim if you're Christian if you Jewish if you gay if you're lesbian By the way by curious of course doesn't count But this but the whole thing it's creepy You know this it's creepy to say, you know We're gonna push this on everybody which to me can only mean that there's something coming probably Syria Because we have to deliver our freedom to these people. Well that douchebag McCain was grilling the little Irishman. Oh yeah Dempsey, doesn't he look a little bit like a leprechaun? He doesn't look like one but he is one!

CHAPTER 10 / 42 Discussion

John McCain, General Martin Dempsey Syria Testimony

Senator John McCain pressured General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to provide a personal opinion on using kinetic military strikes in Syria. Dempsey declined to offer a public opinion, stating the decision rests with elected officials, leading McCain to threaten to block Dempsey's re-nomination. McCain is characterized as a "warmonger" working for the interests of defense contractors.

john mccain· martin dempsey· syria· military strikes· joint chiefs of staff· lindsey graham

27:34 This is the kind of thing, this guy he's like a nightmare. He has his little cadre of Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte. The three of them are picking on people. So let's play it a little bit to see what is going on because you can just see the Syria thing coming around the corner Coming around to Ben. In Washington today, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army General Martin Dempsey said he's laid out options for President Obama on using US military power in Syria Republican Senator John McCain pressed Dempsey to say what he would do but the general declined The decision on whether to use force is a decision of our elected officials

28:16 You know, I just asked... the chairman just asked you if you would give your personal opinion to the committee if asked. He said yes. I'm asking for your opinion about the use of kinetic strikes that issue is under deliberation inside our agencies in government and it would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with with uh... me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use Afterward, McCain said Dempsey must share his recommendations with the committee and he'll block Dempsey's nomination for a second term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs until he gets an answer. Yeah I saw this and it was...the whole thing was just bizarre! It's like what was...? Does McCain just want to hear someone besides him say yeah let's go in lets go in lets go bomb it? The guy does get off on this stuff or what is wrong with him?!

29:11 He seems to be working for somebody else. Yeah, the guys who make bombs and fighter jets I can't see any other reason why he would be like this it's disturbing it really is. He hangs out in the Middle East always meeting with people over there and then he's the biggest warmonger that we have period all of Congress just wants to bomb the heck out everybody so its attack he wants us to bomb Iran And then there's this, and now he's badgering Dempsey who put up with it I guess. It was weird because as watching this...I swear it looked like Dempsey's shoulder pads with those stars that there were only three of them. Well you can't see them because two of them are behind.

CHAPTER 11 / 42 Discussion

Helen Thomas, White House Press Corps Legacy

Journalist Helen Thomas, who covered ten presidents, passed away recently. The discussion recalls her "No Agenda" style of questioning and her eventual dismissal from the press corps following controversial comments about Israel and Palestine. It is suggested that the Obama administration was particularly dismissive of her persistent questions regarding the closure of Guantanamo Bay.

helen thomas· white house· barack obama· palestine· israel· journalism

30:03 I saw three of them, but I saw the back yellow and the front yellow. I saw the square that outlines it stars in there. I could still only count three. It's just beside the point... I'm sure he has got them all. We lost Helen Thomas. Yeah! And I thought it was kind of funny. So Helen Thomas for those who don't remember She was always in the front. Actually, before... When we started doing this show which is around 2008 Was it 2008, 2007? Yeah. 2007-2008 She was still always in the front row at the White House briefings Now of course the internet was really just still kind of coming up to speed and you know we didn't have all the great I remember when in the UK I didn't even have a full wired connection for a year or whatever I was on some kind of 3G something or other

31:03 So we couldn't get all the material we wanted at the time, but she's been for 10 presidents. She has kind of been very no agenda like I have to say. Very annoying in the front row always asking whatever came to top of mind and what questions you want to ask. And when the Obama administration came in... I tried to find some stuff, but just couldn't find it easily because of the situation. He talked about this she was very disappointed in the Obama administration Very disappointed but he was also dismissive of her remember? Remember he would be like okay Helen... an old white woman hell with her It's a lot and i tried to find it and its no longer on C-SPAN that I could find uh... I remember there were one or two times when he was like shut up basically you remember that

31:50 Yeah, and then of course she essentially got railroaded out of Washington because she got hijacked outside by some guy. And that I do have and he asked her a question about Palestine and about Israel in Palestine in 27 seconds which I'm about to play for you, changed her life forever. Got her kicked out of Washington essentially off the entire press corps and out of the picture kind of right around the time when the Obama administration was really annoyed with their questions and she would ask questions like how come you haven't closed Gitmo yet?

32:28 and you know, Obama be like... and it's their land, not German or Polish. So where should they go? They go home! Where is the home? Poland Germany And America and everywhere else Yeah so apparently that was like the worst thing she could ever say It was the worst thing she could ever say and you know it's just horrible because she said to go back to Poland and I guess thats because... Go back to Poland you like

CHAPTER 12 / 42 Discussion

Mark Leibovich, This Town and Washington Cynicism

Author Mark Leibovich discussed his book "This Town" on Charlie Rose, describing the co-opted and cynical nature of Washington D.C. politics. The book opens with an account of Tim Russert's 2008 funeral, which Leibovich describes as a networking opportunity where business cards were exchanged. The Clintons are specifically mentioned as "pros" at navigating public mourning and empathy for political gain.

mark leibovich· washington dc· tim russert· hillary clinton· networking· journalism

33:11 But mommy, I've never even seen Poland! And related to this someone sent me a link to a book which one of our producers said you've got to read this book. It's brand new and luckily it came out on Kindle so we're taking our week off. It's called This Town and it's really a no that's the book that we talked about this weeks ago yeah i don't know what that was not well here this anecdotal remind you the book was not supposed to be out in somebody slip all right at the airport invited landed at the airport exactly so the author is uh... mark uh... leibowitz and he has been put into your times going to think

34:03 I believe so. So he's on Charlie Rose and one of our producers said you've got to read this book, take a look at this interview of him on Charlie Rose and so i clipped this uh... this one minute thing of him talking about the book which definitely makes me very excited about reading this uh... the he kind of gets into exactly uh... why he wrote the book or as charlie says what's the year was the origin of this so i have why did you write this let's just talk a bit is really it's interesting from a thousand ways eating lunch in this time i think had to do with the famous quote in california hollywood for example nobody's nobody don't understand again what would you what's the part

34:46 The origin of this is, I think first of all just living in this town and working in this town for a while. This town being Washington? This town being Washington DC and after awhile people say you're cynical, your reporter but if your reporter in Washington it's sort of hard not to be cynical but its also hard not to co-opted in a way and I think if you were to look at almost psychoanalytically, I mean maybe there's part of me that wanted to check myself before getting too deep into this world. You have been partly co-opted yourself? I think you can't help it and i think it would be dishonest to have not said that Or live in a cave Exactly but the inspiration for this was actually at Tim Russert funeral in June 2008 which is the opening scene of the book

35:31 degenerate instantly into this networking opportunity and cocktail party. People came to the funeral to be seen as much as they were paying respect? Well, I think they were paying respect. Okay now this is actually how the book starts and opens up listen to this because it will blow you away Clearly there was a lot of sadness in the room but i do think that there was a CNBC quality to it clearly people were working at them business cards flying and people congratulating At a funeral It was an epic scene. You talk about so many people, you say about former President Clinton and the former Secretary of State that they do funerals well I mean, the Clintons are experts at mourning and funeral. And then I feel your pain and that's one of his signature lines now again that sounds cynical. I think there comes in some ways from a place of genuineness but clearly if you talk to anyone who knows them they are pros at sickness at other people's misfortune and they do empathy well. I think that just makes so much sense their pros it's sickness and other people's misery

36:35 Yeah, well remember that old clip that I used to put all a play a lot which was Clinton saying? I think the Secretary of State should be in a place where there's plenty of human misery. No, I don't remember that no I don't remember yeah Well it's a clip which we use because it was just funny because it was that source Hillary is floating around he says I I think if the secretary of state should be where there's a lot of human misery and I took It as just kind of get her out of the house and right or suffer but rethinking it is probably exactly what he thinks. He thinks, you know because these guys are there they feed off of this and can you imagine that like a Star Trek story? Right essentially what he's saying is that Tim Russert who of course I think was killed uh... he's the guy that did before Chip Gregory came on the scene. He basically took his job right? Is it Chip who took Tim Russert? Yes

37:28 And, you know the guy was a fun guy to watch and he had it all roly-poly. And then so at his funeral he got the Clintons and they're like doing business there? These people are horrible! Well the book should be very good everyone loves this book. It won't mean anything by the way No No, but I'm not. It won't change anything? No of course not. Washington DC is ruining the world Well if you watch the entire interview and there was really no need for Charlie Rose to have him on for the whole show But the guy is essentially saying that everyone's corrupted Everyone's co-opted including him he kind of admits that

CHAPTER 13 / 42 Discussion

Janet Napolitano, University of California Salary

Janet Napolitano is set to leave her post at the Department of Homeland Security to join the University of California system in September. She will reportedly earn a base salary of $570,000 per year. The move is discussed in the context of high-level officials securing lucrative positions after their government service.

janet napolitano· university of california· homeland security· salary· education

38:11 And he says, you know the whole place is... The whole idea is you get in. You want to get into some kind of position for five minutes at least so that you can get out and then your set for the rest of your life! For the rest of your life you can go charge some corporation for your connections or whatever it is and thats the whole business Yeah, no and I think there's something to that. Play the Napolitano clip! Hold on a second...I'm not quite as fast as I am at home so here we go Now Napolitano will finish her duties with Homeland Security in the next month and half starting with UC in September She is going to make a base salary of $570,000 dollars a year

38:51 It's a university, it is a college. I'm glad you bring this up because there is a lot of talk about who was going to be replacing our dear Lucy Janet Napolitano This is Cornel West with the name that has been floated the most No, I thought that they were wonderful words of tribute to Sister Sabrina and Brother Tracy who I thought were wonderful. I mean, I lean on the same Jesus that they do but it's going to be actions. That is going to be a crucial thing when you talk about racial post-riling and you acknowledge a racist criminal justice system that has nearly destroyed two generations of precious young black brothers especially poor black brothers we finally get a word now its been five years first black president

CHAPTER 14 / 42 Discussion

Chris Inglis, Potential Homeland Security Nomination

John "Chris" Inglis, the Deputy Director of the NSA, is rumored to be a top candidate for the next Secretary of Homeland Security. While New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has been publicly discussed, intelligence sources suggest Inglis is the more likely pick. His background as a Brigadier General and his deep ties to the NSA are highlighted as factors that would make his nomination powerful and difficult to oppose.

chris inglis· nsa· homeland security· ray kelly· nsa deputy director· nomination

39:34 finally said the word about the new jim crow i welcome it sign of progress let's see what kind action on the ground you talk about raymond kelly and maybe a new head of homeland security he is b poster child racial profiling many of us went to jail well stop in fact that actions can undermine words here we're gonna have to see so this is uh... the name that everyone's talking about apparently the president even said i'm not sure if rick ellie who was the police commissioner of new york who is the guy who was implemented this um... what do they call it the stop and search or stopping basically strip I think it's a you're black stop just like your black come over here is that the policy? right so yeah, I'm sorry your black Latino come over here we got to search you but I have received from one of our intelligence sources a different name which I've not heard anywhere else Chris Inglis

40:27 I think his full name is John Chris Inglis. He is the number two guy at the NSA and word is, in fact he came in and bumped out the guy who was named Black I think it was who's a number to guide of the NSA and he was over there in the UK running kind of MI6 NSA or GCHQ whatever they call it. Yeah that thing crazy thing. He was their go between guy. The round building just like the Apple headquarter? Exactly So this Inglis apparently is really well connected and this is the guy, I think we should put it in the book because you have not heard of him anywhere else. And he's supposedly the guy that will become the new Secretary for Homeland Security which makes the NSA that much more powerful because he is a number two guy. It's Kaiser Alexander and then him

41:25 I'm looking at his wiki page. He's got a presidential rank award for distinguished service Yeah, oh yeah this is this guy what does that mean? No he got another one he got one in 2004 Got another presidential rank award for meritorious service in 2000 so he's deputy director of basically giving you You know yeah Let's give each other an award okay, but this guy is uh he's he's uh He's in the pocket Deputy Director of the NSA. I mean, just look at his wiki page there's nothing in there No it's just a bunch of dates and what he did This is how they operate It looks like bullet points from the agency You don't think that they're gonna allow anything to be active? Go ahead try and put something in there let's see how long it lasts Oh yeah that'd be out two seconds NSA like ah we got an alert We have to remove something quickly He's a Brigadier General Starting in the Air National Guard

42:25 And then he moved into the Air Force, I was assuming it was an Air Force intelligence and then he probably went up to uh... So the question is this guy big eyes. He looks like an alien. He could be a gray You see his high forehead? It's kind of like a... And big eyeballs huge But this is a presidential nomination, the president has to nominate someone for this correct? Yeah and nobody would say no to this guy because he got everyone blackmailed. Right So there was no one who's going to vote... This will be you do..this guy even though I don't know if he's gonna get it but let's assume if he does get nominated I'll betcha goes through unanimously Oh yeah Except Rand Paul

CHAPTER 15 / 42 Discussion

John C. Dvorak, 2010 NSA Surveillance Prediction

A clip from No Agenda Episode 175, recorded in February 2010, features John C. Dvorak discussing his practice of placing black tape over computer webcams. In the clip, Dvorak explicitly mentions the NSA as a potential entity that could be watching through the cameras. The hosts revisit this as proof of Dvorak's early foresight regarding the total surveillance state.

john c. dvorak· nsa· webcam security· privacy· prediction· episode 175

43:03 and he'll say do you think they were smuggling weapons to from bank no I know he's gonna ask I know is going to ask him but as do you think that what happened in Egypt was it who crew others right did you call the coup all that it cool well is it all yes everyone just put a robot in there to ask the same thing over and over again with Egypt the coup why does he care anymore He still asks. By the way, I received from producer Gary a talk about how awesome this show is and we don't toot our own horn that often but as much as we should! But i'm going to toot your horn...I will take you back to episode 175 now today it's episode 532 so we're going back to episode 175 I think at that time was I still living in London?

43:59 uh... by him the way two thousand none of our i don't know who knows no there isn't a san francisco probably this is february eighteenth two thousand ten listen to you the soothsayer john c jebediah dvorak That was a great setup for nothing to start. Hold on, there we go. By the way at the media offices I've got two monitors... By the way our quality of our sound has improved since then. One that's on an iMac I hope. The other one is ViewSonic and the high-end ViewSonic, both of them have cameras on them and I have black tape over the camera holes. Really? In any environment like that, I will black tape the camera holes. I do not trust these cameras unlike many of these computers. Who are you think it's going to be looking at you me

CHAPTER 16 / 42 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Roundtable Knighting

Executive producers and donors are recognized for their financial support of the show. Joseph Sukhbir and a donor from Sydney, Australia, are acknowledged for contributions of $500 or more, leading to their induction into the No Agenda Roundtable. Various other donors from across the United States and Canada are granted "karma" for their support during difficult economic times.

joseph sukhbir· knight list· donations· sydney· australia· karma

44:55 No? I don't know. The NSA perhaps, i have no idea! There you go! You truly are the oracle my friend. 2010 he said that Anyway in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to you all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water feet in the air and all of the dames and knights out there. That's right and in the morning to our producers who are once again lined up ready to go depleting their 9.2 million dollar value in the chatroom noagenda stream dot com noagenda chat dot net also too our crack team there void zero sir gene mr oil sir gitmo slave everybody helping out making sure we stay on the air which is highly appreciated and of course to our artists

45:43 Want to thank whoops we had did our art on 531 it was Thorin Thorin. Yep, no agenda ArtGenerator comm we really appreciate the work that you guys do and I think we have a couple of people who we can thank for Helping us out and producing executive producing and associate executive producing episode five three two Yes, and get your pen out. Okay I got my pen. I'm ready to go. Well our first executive producer which is 532 or $530 is Joseph Soukbir, I'm guessing? He's in London. Hi Batman and Robin! I'd like some Job Karma and LGYs. I recently lost my job but he's giving us 532 in these trying economic times. And then he also donated 500

46:38 Yes, and he says hey guys it's me again I enjoy the show but nothing is the best podcasting ever. Does anyone want to make a second donation for Sunday Show? To take me over-the-top for knighthood! I don't know why he's not on The Knight List. Well so I saw someone come through on The Knight List... Yeah valued card holder Oh no well let's put Joseph on That's that's why you needed me to have my pen I get it okay Joseph... what's his last name? I'm a little, uh... S-U-K-H-B-I-R. How do you pronounce that do you think? Oh no, it's just... super super super suited six-weeks to prepare me well he's gonna send us an email or sick where while you go to the penalty issue guide unwanted that's okay this is cool let me uh... first let me hit him up with and lose some jobs karma and uh... in a lgy to top it off this is very clear on this job jobs and jobs

47:40 You've got karma. In Sydney, Australia 500. Dear Bert and Ernie we a national conversation about donating to No Agenda why because spring is in the air southern hemisphere and the neighbors are putting up security cameras because of the giant sign that I see from my desk it reads workshop live

48:24 Wow. May as well say obey, consume marry and reproduce or because as I did you caught yourself humming the Gitmo Nation National Anthem in any case i think the whole prism program is a good thing for starters as a complete and utter moron I feel safer but also seeing how the CIA won last year's best picture Oscar I'm betting on at least a Golden Globe for the NSA for best adaption of my email adaptation of my email I'll be expecting a royalty check and mention in the acceptance speech. A nice credit but doesn't hold the candle to producer of the best podcast in the universe though!

49:01 This time around the exchange rate is working against us but please accept this contribution which I think puts me over the top for knighthood. Might I humbly request the title of Sir Valued Cardholder? Absolutely Knight at large of The No Agenda Roundtable and a little karma for myself and the significant other, chances are I'm already kneeling so go ahead and knight me! Knight me in the mouth! Much love! That doesn't sound good... I don't know about that Let me give him a little bit of karma. Yeah, you will get a night ring. And let me give him some obey karma. You know? So we see where is it here... Why's that? You will obey! You've got Karma. Nice Wow thank you and a ring coming your way in a nighting later on in the show Baba Mustafa 333 33 from Clayton New York North Carolina

49:59 Just Bubba, Doe Yo. Now Anonymous from Aurora Colorado came in with 3333 and fortunately he does have a long note here as a government employee and I can read part of it but he printed it at...and I don't have my glasses. Oh wait a minute 2 point type is that what he did? It's very small type and its light blue ink. Yay! Great idea. Way to get your note read. 255 33 in Medford Oregon Sir Keith of Medford best shows ever please give me three fun effects Adams choice carry on the best podcast in the universe. Thank you both keep up the good work Don't get droned no way my choice yeah, wow that's cool okay? Adam's choice yeah Adams choice

CHAPTER 17 / 42 Discussion

Rein van Rooij, Architectural Photography and Celebrity Donors

Rein van Rooij, a well-known architectural photographer based in the Netherlands, has reportedly been encouraging Dutch celebrities to donate to the No Agenda show. The hosts discuss his unique "light painting" photography technique and his aggressive recruitment of new donors. One host expresses interest in joining van Rooij on a photo shoot to learn more about his process.

rein van rooij· photography· architecture· netherlands· donations· celebrities

51:12 AC Adam Curry and choice reen van reach Owen oh I know this is reading for a toven right hold on this guy yeah it's the Dutch guy and he's a it's actually a pretty well-known photographer of architecture and really yeah there's over here in Hercules up the street from me he's been there for seven years I think he moved to I've got to go see you. He's gotta take me on one of his photo shoots, I'll be the guy who opens the bags. So he does architecture photography but has some set up where he literally paints light all over the building? You have to Google his name and you will see it is pretty spectacular

52:00 But what's funny is he's been calling people celebrities here in the Netherlands. Yeah? And he's saying, you have to donate to The Noah Jenner Show! So I'm getting all these weird emails from people like, Curry what is this? Reen is saying that I have to send you $500 dollars why? Reen... He said don't question it man just do it! What your problem?! Reen said so and you do it Huh, well that's fascinating. That has my attention Yes did you google him? No not yet I'm still gonna read later on. I mean he is a stone's throw from where i live Well you should hook up with him Of course I can't really throw that far but... Francis Lambert Yeah no I should I would love to go on a photo shoot and just maybe learn something about how to open the lens bigger

CHAPTER 18 / 42 Discussion

Detroit Bankruptcy, Global Value for Value Donations

Donors from Croatia and Michigan contribute to the show, prompting a discussion on the 101 million Americans receiving some form of government food assistance. The hosts clarify that while 47 million are on the SNAP program, the total number across all federal food programs reaches the 101 million mark. John C. Dvorak expresses interest in visiting the "worst parts" of Detroit during an upcoming trip.

detroit· croatia· food stamps· snap· michigan· value for value

53:00 Francis Lambert 243, 43 from Zabak Croatia which I think is a happening place at the moment that this town. It's kind of like what Detroit will be in five years i think. ITM Adam and John you guys have been outstanding lately. You know while you're floating around uh... I may actually take a quick run to Detroit You know, I was gonna meet up with you. Yeah in the south of France. We already had the cot ready for you. We were sure that you would come and join us John but Detroit is second best i agree

53:42 You guys have been outstanding lately. Here's some value for value, please give a round of karma for the 100 million Americans with or without food stamps. Greetings from Croatia." Let me hand that out... I do need to say something? You've got karma! It's funny, I got a lot of people saying please show me this 101 million number and i was right but not entirely correct so I do apologize The number of people, and this is according to the document which is in the show notes which I also mis-filed so I'll put it in the show notes for today's show again. So you can see its a government PDF and it's under clips and stuff

54:23 uh... forty seven million americans are on the snap program that's these the supplemental food stamps essentially at the other little over fifty million any number of other governmental food programs so it's a hundred one million in total it is only forty seven million on snap when you look at all the programs and in this one document it's a hundred and one million americans on some kind of government from program I didn't like the number either. Yeah, but 47 is bad by itself but 101... Yeah no 47's still pretty high. But it's all programs! Okay Alright well i just need to clarify because a lot of people are like... You dug yourself out of the hole. Curry you suck man that's not true!! I'm unsubscribing!!! Well we got those guys they're just waiting they sit laying in wait

55:20 Ah, they made a mistake. It's not 552 it's 551 point 2. It's 1 point 2. They're dumb! My favorite is not even saying I'm unsubscribed but just UNSUBSCRIBED! Blocked! Blocked? That's what you do. You're like BLOCKED Adam Smith, good old Adam Smith and loaded of dough up in Calgary Alberta where all the money is in Canada. 235. Hey Jan still enjoying the show? Tremendous!

55:57 Especially 528 with Adams expert plane crash analysis keep up the great work and can I please get a 999 and good luck karma for the little league baseball team? I coach few games coming up down. The stretch can always use the extra help Cheers Absolutely, we'll do a nine-nine-niner in a car You've got karma always happy to oblige Roberto Bertran, sorry Roberto. 233-33 Royal Oak Michigan and by the way if anybody is in the Michigan Detroit area can show me around send me an email to johnatdvorak.org I want to get to the worst parts of town but i need some escorts obviously If you know what I mean when we say escort wink, snitch, nudge yeah sure Hola Armando and Jose

56:52 I recently got my security deposit on my old apartment in the mail. You guys offer me so much brain security that it only makes perfect sense to donate to the best podcast in the universe! I've been a long-time donor and always felt bad for not donating." Please de-douche me and give my new fiancé Libby an eye a shot of karma. We are celebrating her birthday this Saturday, so I would... we have her on the list So you can your appreciation is appreciated Can you please call out my friend Carlos from Miami who has never donated a douche bag? Keep up the excellent work. Love the show.

CHAPTER 19 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Newsletter, Upcoming Special Programming

The hosts discuss the production of the No Agenda newsletter and upcoming special episodes featuring Ramsey Cain and interviews with John Dixon and Daniel Suarez. Suarez, author of "Kill Decision," is noted for his accurate predictions regarding drone warfare. The hosts also discuss the technical challenges of maintaining RSS feeds and the importance of "value for value" support during their vacation week.

ramsey cain· john dixon· daniel suarez· rss feeds· newsletter· podcasting

57:44 art dot org slash and a telemarket comes last in aid no agenda show that common knowledge animation dot com click on the donate buttons there but when i might do we get which finally talk about it out of our later yet to as some other now let's talk about another good and again i want to remind people that we you know would like to keep the uh... income stream so don't just mall they're gonna do a clip shows us were all over us and we're not just doing a clipshow with action work for we've were producing we got ramses Ramsey Cain on noagenda cd.com. I made the mistake of calling Randy Cain in a newsletter. You know, that was not so good

58:21 Let me give people a little look into the no agenda behind the scenes. So John and I never talk, but once or twice a week when John's going to send out the newsletter he'll send me the draft and he says take a look at it because usually there is no change but I find little typos or little things or something where I might have a comment So, I'm jet lagged so at 4 in the morning my eyes open up and I'm like oh I'm awake. And so I grab you know start looking at email and there's John who would 130 a.m.. My time sends a note saying stay awake. I'm gonna send you the newsletter Don't go to sleep You have to check it and like five year douche

59:04 I can't say, and then of course the one time i don't look at it a mistake like that slips in. It's like Kennedy getting nuttier. He's a good guy he doesn't yeah he's a freak but anyway so Ramsey Cain is going to uh He's already done it actually, he finished it. He is not going to be able do any more editing on today because his wife will divorce him apparently...he puts in a lot of time for us and so instead one of us doing here with like a third party show up important clips independent independent clips independent guy yep and so it can be very interesting show as gonna be I guess about an hour-and-a-half up the two hours that we're doing on Thursday

59:45 That's a Thursday show. And then next Sunday we have another one that I'll be producing during the week, so editing them is really what I'm doing and giving them to somebody to post and this will be a couple of interviews with I got his name is John Dixon and John Dixon is a former Air Force intelligence guy, runs the software company in San Antonio called The Denim Group. And they do computer security stuff and we talk about the NSA and it's actually very entertaining conversation. And then Adam follows that or actually that'll follow Adams' conversation which was the first one with which actually

1:00:29 excerpted from one of his uh... when he's doing all these interviews and this is a really good one and of the guy what's-his-name is saying that you'll soar as so are is read the book writer yet and debt that's an entertaining thing in them that'll be another hour to have show more or less and the price is along for daniel sores for those who don't know if they got a road uh... demon Followed by Freedom TM and of course he wrote the Kill Decision which is the book about drones, which came out a year ago now. He pretty much nailed everything that is taking place right now and he also was a former military contractor I kind of nut noodle him a little bit about that

1:01:14 So this will be a good show on Sunday. Now, this is the question I want to ask you now might as well... If anyone wants to be an executive producer for either of these two shows we will run the numbers as usual on the same night and so if you're going to be credited for it as an executive producer on these shows respectively and uh... right so it's a week with those in the show notes that we're saying we're gonna yet okay so when i'm on vacation were actually you got to go through your email anyway not uploading their work uploading we're doing and we're doing our assess feeds in the airfield is missing his history hours of kitchen that's the only thing we're not doing okay or yeah but my little girl at night now everything about them exactly because they said he's done the word hey so i know it's where i think it should

1:02:07 Well, vacation means you got three hours cut loose. You don't get so many clips and the rest... So I mean there's some vacation aspect to it. And then I was planning on being really really drunk for the whole week but i guess that just not gonna happen Oh Joe! Go for it Have you ever messed up an RSS feed for a podcast? Do you know what it takes weeks for all of that crap to flesh itself out. I've done this where like, you mislabel somehow the enclosure is misleading and people are emailing and tweeting for weeks! It doesn't work!

1:02:47 your file is no good. Dead link, dead link devorah dot org slash mp Alright of course you can executive produce or go out and propagate a formula Our formula is this we go out hit people in the mouth I think that's gonna be a t-shirt Dead Link! Dead Link stupid idiot not working on

CHAPTER 20 / 42 Discussion

BitTorrent Sync, Decentralized Show Distribution

The No Agenda show is now being distributed via BitTorrent Sync as a safe and decentralized alternative to traditional servers. Currently, 35 computers are seeding the show, including a 40-gigabyte archive of every episode maintained by Eric DeShill. This method allows listeners to receive the show before it is officially released on the main RSS feed.

bittorrent sync· decentralized· file sharing· seeding· archive· distribution

1:03:23 Quantcast or whatever it's called. Hey, so I got a hold of the guys who are doing the BitTorrent folks Oh really? The bit this the BitTorrent sync thing that Bram? Yeah. And so they're going to Hold on I've been signed up for the beta for weeks I want to try the streaming stuff but I get no love from them Oh, okay. Well I'll send them a note saying that they sent you a thing, a link when we can get back. So they think it's great that we've been promoting it and they will probably put us on as the highest site on their website, on their blog. Oh really? Cool! Yeah, cool. But I think long term...I'm totally agreeing with you. This is only safe distribution mechanism at least for

1:04:11 Stuff like what we do well What's nice about it and for those of you who haven't heard if you if you go to the show notes We've been doing it for the past couple months. If you go to five three two dot na show notes calm You'll see it right there at the bottom of the of the main page, you'll see a link that says new to get the show via BitTorrent sync. And I think we now have 35 computers seeding the show full-time, we have two folders one is the most recent show and then we have Eric DeShill actually because he's maintained an archive since day one which i think now is 40 gigabytes

1:04:51 some obscene number and you can sign up to that folder and you'll essentially be helping us maintain history. by having every single NOAJENDA episode, because a lot of people want that. They want all the back catalog and so you can subscribe to either one of those and I really see this as the future distribution. I'm so agreeing with you in fact when you sign up when you get the BitTorrent sync and you subscribe to our folder You get the show before it's released anywhere else

1:05:27 So before I even put it in the RSS feed, before the show notes are even up you can get the show. A lot of people seem to like that. Yeah everybody's in a hurry Yes In case no one had done this yet in America...I'm sure someone has somewhere here in the Gitmo lowlands people don't really care too much about what's going on America. As example, the Zimmerman trial no one cares no one knows no ones talking about it not on anyone's mind whatsoever NSA snooping? Yeah, no now that they came out that the Netherlands actually has more phone taps than any country in the world. Which they're also not concerned about here by the way because of course no one has anything to hide but people are like wow how does an entire city go bankrupt

CHAPTER 21 / 42 Discussion

Barack Obama, 2012 Detroit Bankruptcy Denial

A 2012 clip of President Obama is resurfaced where he claimed his administration "refused to let Detroit go bankrupt" while bailing out the auto industry. The hosts contrast this statement with Detroit's current actual bankruptcy filing. The segment highlights the perceived failure of government intervention to prevent the city's financial collapse.

barack obama· detroit· bankruptcy· gm· chrysler· auto industry

1:06:19 And of course I'm talking about Detroit and you can't talk about the bankruptcy of Detroit without going back to 2012 and President Obama saying this. Just a few years ago, the auto industry wasn't just struggling it was flatlining GM and Chrysler were on the verge of collapse suppliers and distributors were at risk of going under More than a million jobs across the country were on the line, and not just auto jobs but the jobs of teachers small business owners and everyone in communities that depend on this great American industry. But we refused to throw in the towel and do nothing We refuse to let Detroit go bankrupt I'd bet on American workers and American ingenuity

1:07:02 I think it's so funny. Alright, i'm gonna give you... Really? Just to be a nice guy and you're on vacation getting Clip of the Day that's a beauty! Really?! You telling me.. Yeah, you brought your dick, did some serious work, went into the archives and found that clip Oh wow, I wasn't even expecting it. I am completely befuddled here Well thank you so much John It has been quite a number shows since we've had one I'll take it absolutely! Yeah, we won't let them go bankrupt and there they are. I guarantee no other show that does news analysis will have that clip available to them to play... To rub it in the space. You can take that to the bank! That's right. No one has that. In fact- No one has that? I sit on stuff like this for years just waiting. Like oh yeah

CHAPTER 22 / 42 Discussion

Trayvon Martin Case, Obama Racial Commentary

President Obama's comments on the Trayvon Martin case, including his statement that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," are criticized as pandering and fomenting racial division. The discussion touches on Piers Morgan's coverage and the role of figures like Al Sharpton in "fomenting hate" for profit. The hosts argue that the President should rise above local criminal issues rather than involving himself in racial politics.

trayvon martin· george zimmerman· barack obama· racial profiling· al sharpton· piers morgan

1:07:54 You'll regret them words one day. You'll regret, yeah. He said something recently... he said something else that um I don't know, this is so much stuff. Here's what really got me three times that i counted he came out in front of the press corps and bitched and moan about Trayvon Martin but the classic line talking about another thing nobody cares about Europe is this one where essentially he says that Trayvon Martin Zimmerman killed a future president yeah nice It's a free crime. He is an assassin! It's crazy, but I did want to just talk a little bit about context and how people have responded to it And how people are feeling You know When Trayvon Martin was first shot? I said that this could have been my son another way of saying that is a Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago before it's cram

1:09:00 It's pre-crash. I also thought that was really, really weird and i heard that too...I'm like wow! You're basically saying you could have been killed? That makes no sense whatsoever No it makes no sense whatsoever And why is he pandering to local politics The whole thing is crazy This is the problem with this president He can't rise above these little items Like the professor at Harvard who was arrested yeah you know he keeps getting involved in these local issues that some someone brings to his attention hey there's a lot of black kids in oakland that are shot like every other day and richmond california energy can see another talking and ending up for them you know i will say that uh... the that there is a feeling worldwide probably and then this and this has worked is that america

1:09:56 is just one big racial hate. It's like white people hate black people, black people live in ghettos no white people live in ghettos no brown people live in ghettos no red people live in the ghettos and the black man has suppressed and the white man rules them and hates him that has pretty much worked That I will say is the impression that people have of a male oh by the way In the south buncha rednecks who hate gays And we don't want women to have abortions. I have to say, good work! You've succeeded in propagating that message about America totally. Yeah thanks It's really sad and I sit there like... Obama is not helping matters with this bull crap it could of been me No no and that is so dumb Really its pathetic, its sad

1:10:49 And there are a couple of black guys out there. I saw one, I didn't clip it because it was just...I don't even want to honor this stupid conversation by bringing too much of it up on this show because you get enough of that bull crap on mainstream media all the time There's some black radio host what's his name? The guy is really good and he got on Pierce Morgan and he just ripped Morgan into shreds It's like the whole thing is bull crap And it really is. It's annoying and it's really bad for America, and it just isn't bad! It's bad for white people black people all people the whole thing is lame-o. Morgan says that its incumbent upon him to try to put down the whole culture because he so above at all yeah that guy but also for the president to say you know that could have been me and then you know I when I walk when I walked in elevator women would clutch their purse and car doors with lock

1:11:48 I lived in Hawaii, in a gated community. Are you kidding me? How dare he! How dare he! And then it was at Harvard... Really how dare him?! I went to Salem College in West Virginia 50% black my roommate Tyree Hamilton was black and didn't make any difference all but I'll tell ya that was no Obama Black okay really wasn't and they accepted me whatever there's no difference none what there is no black or white this is nineteen No, this is fomenting hate. These people I would put Sharpton at the top of this list by the way. Fomenting hate! Thank you. Haters just making hate for their own benefit and profit. Horrible people. Well there's good news coming out of Texas or actually no it was good news then became bad news What did I miss? I turned around and left and what happened

CHAPTER 23 / 42 Discussion

Redneck Heaven Bar, Texas Body Paint Controversy

A bar in Lewisville, Texas, called Redneck Heaven, faced a legal challenge after a resident complained about "ABC Days" (Anything But Clothes), where waitresses wore only body paint and pasties. Despite the practice being initially legal under city ordinances, the city is now moving to change the law to require actual clothing. The hosts mock the "one lone complainer" who caused the change.

lewisville· texas· redneck heaven· body paint· city ordinance· toplessness

1:12:44 Oh yeah, no Texas is falling apart. Play the topless news! Ah geez... See I knew i couldn't leave What is this? Welcome back everybody there's always great news coming out of the great state of Texas Where it's all bigger It's all bigger so apparently there's a little bar down there in Texas In Louisville, Texas to be exact called Redneck Heaven Bar Redneck Heaven Bar Hey y'all And they at this little bar would have something called ABC days, anything but clothes. So they had on some little bikini bottoms but the tops were not covered as you see there it was all body paint. Okay now this again was no against the laws perfectly fine according to city ordinance there in Louisville Texas however

1:13:31 However, a resident complained and now they're changing the law saying you know what if you work at a restaurant you can no longer have body paint. You must have on actual clothing at this bar so now it is no longer be truly topless even with body paint in Louisville Texas It doesn't look like they are wearing body paint it doesn't look like they are naked at all They must have pasties on Well And then pain on top of the pasties So that Who's this idiot? Who is this woman? Who is this idiot woman? I have no idea. It's not considered clothing, so long as it's covered... I've asked the producers to fly me down so that I can investigate and get back together. Oh ho ho! We talk about titties!

1:14:13 Right we have it is doing a news, but I actually think there's an interesting aspect of this story So they have something that's just the tradition in this bar and nobody gives a crap because it's fine with the city And one lone person what is wrong with people that one complainer one complainer? Yeah. It's like ridiculous one complainer. I mean why are you going into the place if you don't know? It's like oh This porn is terrible, let me look at it again. Oh yes this is as terrible as I thought when I saw the first time. It doesn't make any sense to me anyway that's Texas news. Thank you thank you. That's not really the Texas that I'm from

CHAPTER 24 / 42 Discussion

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Boston Magazine Police Photos

Police photographer Sean Murphy released unauthorized photos of a bloodied Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to Boston Magazine to counter the "glamorized" Rolling Stone cover. The hosts question the authenticity of the photos, noting the absence of a reported neck wound and the "Hollywood-style" appearance of a sniper's laser dot on Tsarnaev's forehead. Murphy was suspended for one day for the unauthorized release.

dzhokhar tsarnaev· boston magazine· sean murphy· rolling stone· neck wound· sniper laser

1:14:59 Okay, so something very interesting happened just as we were wrapping up Thursday's show and to remind you I'll give you a little taster. Good morning to you Carol You know that police sergeant apparently felt somewhat conflicted about releasing the photos but he also felt very strongly The Rolling Stone cover was an insult and hurtful to survivors So this was his way of helping These new photos showing a much different picture of Johar Zarnaev, captured by police. A bloody face! His hands up... the laser from a sniper rifle trained on his forehead. Okay let's stop right there John I'm sure by now you've seen these pictures that were published through Boston Magazine There are couple things that are bothering me. Okay One is where is the neck wound?

1:15:52 The neck wound where's the neck? Yeah, there should be a neck wound. There should be a neck and to this Okay, whoever put these pictures together and by the way stunning photography These are not some snapshots. These are this is really well done. These are very good pictures Can anyone make this dot on the guy's forehead more Hollywood I mean please I have heavy and you ever use the laser a laser sight at that range could you can see where the gun is this dot is the wrong size I'm sorry if it's that from that distance should be all you price for almost impossible to capture on camera. Is this there something so wrong with his picture? And then of course, uh... I think this has so many multiple multiple layers of this cop

1:16:40 uh... door did for the police photographer whatever his exact job is he has been suspended from the force because they didn't have permission to put this out now of course it makes a lot of sense that the wouldn't have permission because it doesn't fit with the bull crap story we've been sold that he was shot in the neck and you where did this wound come from any just climbed out of the boat himself which of course doesn't fit with him confessing on the inside of the boat that he wrote with some sharpie magic marker where he actually said he was not guilty to thirty counts when it was in court and, of course we're still waiting for the videotape that shows the brothers putting the backpacks into the garbage cans. They are trying to make that go away That's exactly what is happening here

CHAPTER 25 / 42 Discussion

Rolling Stone Controversy, Media Snide Style

The controversy surrounding the Rolling Stone cover featuring Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is characterized as a publicity stunt that successfully riled up both the left and right. An NBC News report on the matter is criticized for its "snide" delivery when quoting Rolling Stone's commitment to "thoughtful coverage." The hosts argue that the media is participating in a "lynch mob" mentality regarding the trial.

rolling stone· boston bomber· nbc news· journalism· media bias· publicity stunt

1:17:29 Do you have something on this? No, I got nothing. Okay let's just listen to the rest of this report. A vastly different image from the one depicted in the controversial Rolling Stone cover... By the way do you get the idea John that this was a kind of left-right ping pong job that it was like okay we'll get people all riled up about which is ridiculous by the way we've had tons of mass murderers and crazy people on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine in all kinds of publications. Everyone's outraged, we have all over... Oh! We're not going to sell this! No it was a publicity stunt I bought that from the beginning as a publicity stunt But then you come out with these pictures to offset that with this message Massachusetts State Police Sergeants

1:18:14 You know what I mean? Sean Murphy says- Yeah, yeah. No, I think you're right He was so angry with Rolling Stone's cover he released these new photographs to Boston Magazine And listen to this piece Listen to the man on the street pieces they put in here The police tactical photographer told the magazine quote, what Rolling Stone did was wrong. The guy is evil This is the real Boston bomber not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone Fluff them I say wait a minute. We're just gonna be on trial and found guilty Oh No, this is another part of it He's this is that he didn't he is guilty even though he said not guilty in court to all 30 counts

1:18:52 There's no proof, we're still missing the video. No this is in they have to cover up whatever went on I think that's the real face of terror That's right! The real face of terror! I agree with him 100% Boston magazine editor told CNN Murphy thought the cover sent the wrong message I think he was genuinely worried about the impact on the families of the victims and I think that certain impressionable people might be lured to replicate that by the kind of glamorous looking photo that is on a Rolling Stone cover. Tsarnaev's first public appearance since his arrest was in court last week. He pleaded not guilty to 30 federal charges, including four killings. While images like these are already having an impact some say the focus is all wrong I think they should focus all the attention on the brave people and the people who lost their lives not monster who caused it all Isn't this great? Don't you love this man on the street stuff that just throw in there just like grab someone just put that

1:19:53 Well, Carol apparently Murphy did not want Rolling Stone to have the last say so he decided to release the police photos himself. A police spokesman said in a statement that release of the photos was not authorized by the Massachusetts State Police. Murphy was suspended for a day and faces a hearing next week to determine his status. That investigation... A whole day! With full pay by the way, with full pay For doing his job right Now this is disturbing. It's a kangaroo court, it's like they're trying to mob... everybody is in on this mob thing. It's a mob! It's a lynch mob. The media is in on it I got a kick out of an NBC presentation just I'm only got the very small clip that's called Snide Style

1:20:42 This is NBC making, I believe that tell me i'm wrong. I may be of just over interpreted what I thought was a snide style of talking about the Rolling Stone it was just like... It just seemed like they're trying to say these guys he... It's just weird you play and tell me what do you think? In a statement Rolling Stone editors said their hearts go out to the victims They said the cover story falls within the traditions of journalism and the magazine's commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage Hmm. No, by overdoing that it just seemed like he has journalism and thoughtful coverage It just seemed I'd just the way he said it. I thought it was snide Yeah, I want to listen to it again. And um, let me just check it out in a statement Rolling Stone editors said their hearts go out to the victims They said the cover story falls within the traditions of journalism and the magazine's commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage

CHAPTER 26 / 42 Discussion

European Newsstands, Lad Mags and Gender Norms

Magazine distribution in the UK and Europe relies heavily on newsstands, leading to aggressive covers featuring "Page Three girls" and "Lad Mags" like Maxim. The discussion shifts to gender norms, with one host admitting to wearing a "nightdress" at home for comfort. This leads to a humorous exchange about the differences in how men and women perceive their surroundings.

newsstands· magazines· maxim· lad mags· page three girls· uk media

1:21:37 Yeah, yeah it's snide. I mean... It's...yeah it's snide that was snide. It's typical though is you know we were at the before we got on the plane from Austin to Atlanta We went to the newsstand You know and uh and I looked at the magazines John there's not a single one I actually wanted to buy it was all every single magazine had bullcrap on it Every single no, it's like yeah. It's like I'm why why should I just read this bullcrap when it? Time magazine even the Economist looked like bull crap Just everything is like and then forget that the like the technology magazines up

1:22:21 Yeah, the only time I sometimes am attracted is to one of the car magazines if they have some really hot car that I've never seen before on the cover. I go oh that's interesting and then I still don't buy them. I get closest to the car magazines though in terms of like being suckered into buying them Yeah, well that's the business. I mean in Europe in fact because most unlike the United States and England in particular and the United States most of the magazine distribution is through subscriptions. In England in particular and I think in most of Europe most of the magazine circulation is through the newsstand

1:23:00 they don't have as many people that actually get the magazine in the mail as we do here. It has a lot to do with the post office and other things, so in England in particular that's the newsstands I like to study because they have the most aggressive covers because their whole business is to compete with each other and gets you buy that magazine much more so than American magazines. So when you're passing through a newsstand in Europe you should... It's funny you mention that. I take pictures! Yeah, I was reading an article this morning that there is now push to change the face of the new stands in the UK because most newspapers or a lot of the newspapers have still the page three girls so you got some naked chick or semi-naked chick on page 3

1:23:48 They also have the Lad Mags as they call them and that's kind of attracting... LADDY BOYS! That's attracting buyers. No, LAD MAGS is what they call them. In the business they're called LADDY BOYS. And the chief promoter at the top of this group is Maxim. Right, which is very successful. Maxim isn't that a worldwide super-success? They've licensed that everywhere? It's very funny... it's a very humorous product Why is it that works but women don't buy naked dudes and stuff? Why is that? This reminds me of somebody who said on a radio show once I'll never forget they said you know it's funny that women

1:24:37 Women will wear like jeans and they'll wear shorts, but it's weird because men don't wear dresses I have a dress standest. I understand why they don't wear dress well That's another story. I have addressed this there's guys in Austin who wear dresses Yes that a lot of guys were dresses these days you it's very kind of more like a Scottish dress But it's address nonetheless I don't have one, but if i had the legs for it. You said you had a dress? No but I don't have one that I wear outside because I don't have the legs for it. So you just wear around the house? Yeah! I wear a dress at home Oh my god... Okay! I'll send you a picture! I don't want to see your picture of you in a dress Do you wear makeup at home too is that the deal? What do you mean at home?!

CHAPTER 27 / 42 Discussion

Spectre 360, Employee Monitoring Software

Spectre 360 is a revolutionary employee monitoring software that records all computer activity, including screen captures and file transfers, to guard against "insider threats." The hosts discuss how this software acts as a digital keylogger and screen recorder, potentially causing resentment in the workplace. They suggest that employees will simply bypass such surveillance by using their personal mobile phones.

spectre 360· employee monitoring· surveillance· keylogger· sysadmins· workplace privacy

1:25:26 Yeah, no we both have the same dress. We, Mickey and I have like a nightdress that we wear around the house Why am i even telling you this? I'm wondering myself! This should not be known It's too late now Alright let me um here i'll give you something Let me see...I got some funny clips that I pulled up here Hold on a second. This was, oh yeah this is a commercial I tweeted at some point about sysadmins that sysadmins are the only guys you can really trust in an organization because they are truly the only people when you're typing in a password they physically look away You've noticed this with good sysadmins right?

1:26:21 Yeah, I noticed it also every once in a while when I'm doing my debit card and I punch in the number if doesn't have the protective shield. Before you hit the last number always look up to see what they're other person's doing yeah and one person staring at it and I looked better and she looks away she punched it in okay well so sysadmins are the guys that really don't give a crap about what you're doing they just want to make sure everything is running and you can trust them with pretty much anything And that's why I think sysadmins truly really do run the world and when push comes to shove, I'm glad they're our friends because they're gonna make our show stay on the air somehow. Um...and then someone tweeted and said yeah well please don't blame us for installing Spectre 360. I'm like Specter 360? Have you heard of this?! I'm gonna find out now!

1:27:15 Your company keeps a lot of valuable data. Customer lists, personnel files, financial reports, confidential documents and there are a lot of employees with access to that data so how can you be sure... Is this the white guy? No I don't know what it is listen to this commercial though its an animated commercial ...acting in your best interest You could go all hard-nosed cop show detective on everyone, but that could cause a lot of resentment and grind your company to a halt. Luckily there's an easy way to monitor employees and guard against insider threats

1:27:51 Introducing Spectre 360, the revolutionary employee monitoring software that alerts you to potential problems allowing you take immediate action. I just love the whole the revolutionary employee monitoring software Oh what does it do? Spectre 360 is like an augmented security camera that records employee activity, proactively searching across company computers servers and mobile devices so you can zero right in and replay the suspicious behavior. So if an employee copies a sensitive file onto USB drive uploads a client list to the cloud or visits inappropriate websites You'll be notified in no time with a comprehensive report detailing exactly what happened

1:28:35 There are no hours spent looking through backups or data logs. Spectre 360 puts you in front of the problem, whether it's fraud productivity even harassment so you can deal with it immediately minimizing any impact and improving your organization's efficiency So stop looking for that needle-in a haystack go to specter360.com for free trial and see the whole picture today I love the productivity part they slipped in there Yeah, well you know this is nothing new this type of software. I remember first hearing about it in probably the late 80's when networks were becoming very popular in organizations and there was a guy who was doing a radio show and this guy came on discussing this and how you can keep people off of the internet... Actually that was keeping them off the internet altogether! Remember that? We had companies where you weren't allowed on the internet

1:29:30 Yeah, there's that too. This is bad! So what apparently these guys are doing is a keylogger which is like disgusting I think it's more than that. The way when I look at the commercial It's not just...it's a screen recorder It's not just a key logger. It's recording everything that is going on and it's like a screen capture yeah, yeah, I'm sure taking a movie like you know I think Lotus used to have a movie maker that you could buy and essentially would turn the screen into The camera and everything that went on was recorded step by step. And then you can go back and look at it now this seems like the way to defeat this of course is just do so much stuff in so many tabs, in so fast, in so many different ways that you overload the thing I don't see this thing actually being performing as well as it...I think there's no reason for this sort of thing in a company Apparently its very successful

1:30:25 Well, that's why people just do more stuff on their phones. Yeah. I mean the phone... watch the kids nowadays they've got their iPhones and they're surfing the web and they're doing everything you'd normally be doing on a desktop Instead of going on the desktop or even a laptop, they'll just do it on the phone and you could do that at work. In fact most workplaces nowadays have people standing outside talking on their own personal cell phones to their buddies and wasting company time doing all the rest of them. They might as well be surfing the web looking at porn on the phone so this is not gonna be effective for anything that's important You wanna harass somebody? Go do it on your phone! By the way I still have not used the phone

1:31:10 I still have not used my phone. Shut up slave! Shut up slave, sorry. I've been using the iPod touch even here in Europe still have not turned the phone on Oh yeah were you on the phone? Yeah Well that's why he didn't get my text message No you didn't send a text message Aha how would you know that not using the phone Because i use a forwarding system that will give me notification if you send me text message but I do not receive it on my phone as a text message. Uh-huh, alright... That's what you say Anyway so yeah, these guys are being forced to put this... ugh stinks By the way sysadmins lot of them wear dresses right kilts i should say maybe it's more like a kilt and its good look

1:32:06 Stinks I know. I think if you got the legs and you got the body guys, you got them Yeah, we got great gorgeous legs shave them No looking good. No no You don't want to shave the legs that's not a good look with the kilt nuts you wanna have like hairy stocky legs? I have no calves That's my problem so it looks it's like hey this what's this guy with the Barbie legs It's not a good look. It's not well. You just don't understand oh Alright, what else we got here? A lot of the Bermuda shorts these guys, these baggy old shorts they look like a skirt. Brad Thor, this is another author... Brad Thor I think he's kind of like... What's the guy? Clancy?

CHAPTER 28 / 42 Discussion

Homeland Security, Red Cell Program for Creatives

Author Brad Thor revealed his involvement in the Department of Homeland Security's "Red Cell" program, which recruits creative thinkers to plot potential terrorist attack scenarios. Thor describes it as a "Las Vegas" program where the ideas generated must stay within the government. The hosts express skepticism, suggesting the program is used to "dream up" scenarios that the security apparatus can then exploit.

brad thor· homeland security· red cell· terrorism· creative thinking· scenarios

1:32:56 Tom Clancy. This is kind of like a Clancy-like guy and he was being interviewed about his most recent book which I have two quick clips here, he mentions the name in the second clip but he was being interviewed and what are you banging me for? I did, it was a mistake. It was an accidental ding. He was being interviewed on some show probably like CBS or ABC, it wasn't the Good Morning America but one of these douchebag shows and he says something that just kind of slips out there

1:33:32 It's something we've known about it, but I never knew the actual code name for this program that apparently a lot of writers were slept into after 9-11. And why is this not starting? Hello... Why are we not working here? Great segue, Ryan! Trying to get to the book now! You wrote another thriller and you're part of Homeland Security's Red Cell program. Tell us about that and how that factors into what you write about? After 9-11, the Department of Homeland Security invited creative thinkers in from outside DC to help them figure out...help them plot what the next terrorist attack might look like

1:34:18 So what that said is they said when you come in and apply your creativity to national security the way you do your books And so I call it the Las Vegas of government programs because what happens in the red cell stays in the red cell? I can't use it for my books How about that, huh The red cell? The Red Cell program where they ask creative people to use their creative thinking and he doesn't even say to come up with scenarios that terrorists might use. No, it's basically just dream some crap up that you know I don't know like how about this how about the bombing at the marathon mean this is disgusting

CHAPTER 29 / 42 Discussion

Brad Thor, Hidden Order and the Federal Reserve

Brad Thor's new book, "Hidden Order," focuses on the Federal Reserve, which he claims will be the "next big thing" in public discourse. Thor uses a style he calls "faction," blending real-life surveillance and economic trends into thriller novels. The hosts discuss the history of the "Red Cell" term, noting its origins in testing military base security and its co-option by DHS.

brad thor· federal reserve· hidden order· nsa· faction· thriller novels

1:34:57 Red cell program here's a little bit more from this Brad Thor guy. Can you call your books faction? What does that mean? Now listen to what he says, it is really important because Remember, his job is to dream up scenarios and dream up stories for the Department of Homeland Security and whoever else is in our security apparatus. The book, for instance Blacklist was all about the NSA and the explosion of surveillance technology I shouldn't say...I don't write textbooks, I write beach reads Ludlum Clancy And when I toured for that book I said the next big thing we'll talk about on the public square Is the NSA and the total surveillance state

1:35:37 This book here, I believe is the next next thing we'll be talking about in the public square. So The Faction is on taking real life things that I kind of see coming over the horizon applying that creativity like I do for DHS and putting those into novel form so you can't keep believe this apply to creativity they do for DHS are you kidding me what's going on here So two years ago, this guy writes about the NSA and that's going to be you know they have this which I haven't read any of his books nor will i ever. And so he and this is now of course everyone's talking about the NSA. Now he has his new book which he believes in the next new thing what could it be about John? Because I had the answer of course but I'd love to hear your guess

1:36:21 The next thing, I don't know dirty bombs or people relaxing our vigilance and then bad things happen. Bombing going into Syria having a battle with Russia? I'm so sorry all of that is wrong. Have a great beach read but when you close it, you're smarter for having read the book and this is about the Federal Reserve right? Right! Federal Reserve which is about as federal as Federal Express there's a lot of wacky conspiracy theories about the Fed but true history of the fed is fascinating It's like its been ripped out of a spy novel and I said I want to weave the fed into my next thriller And that's what I did with Hidden Order

1:37:04 Alright, so the Federal Reserve. That will be the next big thing we'll all be talking about! That will make him a target for someone Well I don't know he's apart of the red cell program man This guy may be protected who knows Let's take a look at him He looks like a college fraternity guy Yeah he does look kind of slick doesn't he? Kind of douchey 69-7 very douchey looking Law and Order Alliance of Lucerne Path of Assassin State of Union blowback takedown First key crank sound a lot of books, but for him this you know for him well Of course because this he's a part of the red cell pro and why would they even call it red cell? These are things that I lie at night. I lie awake and think about this Why do they have this douchebag that And how did they get who comes up with the idea like okay let's go Let's call these guys and I mean come on How stupid do we have to be to see what's going on here?

1:38:08 Red Cell termed US government parlance for teams that test the effectiveness of tactics. There's also an NCIS episode titled Red Cell... Wait a minute! That's not allowed because what he said, that's not allowed you're not allowed to take your writing for the red cell and use it in your own work so someone violated Not necessarily they may have been a member they may have a friend who is a member they wrote a story about it True Being irked by the whole thing Well, regardless. which has been organized to attempt to infiltrate or otherwise test the security of US military bases and other insolent agents sensitive to U.S. security interests The original Red Cell group was led by a former commander of SEAL Team 6, DevGru Richard Marksinko until he was relieved and charged with various offenses including misappropriation of funds. Red team is also termed for opposing force

1:39:24 for the war game by western nations during cold war goes on this this is a different this isn't determined and co-opted by the department of home homeland security from what i can tell anyway very good uh... you know it was sick a little break here so much but don't know which in the national people who could do that's all your It's really weird. It's like 10 to 8 in the evening, it feels... Yeah well your timing has to be horrible. You seem to be rolling along! It's the drugs man, it's the drugs Well we'll get to that later

CHAPTER 30 / 42 Discussion

Global Donor Recognition, Birthday and Job Karma

A long list of donors from Switzerland, Australia, Canada, and the United States is read, with many contributing $69.69 or $50.02. The hosts provide "job karma" and "birthday callouts" for various listeners and their family members. Mary Messner is highlighted for her note about her son Matthew encouraging her to listen to the "thought-provoking" podcast.

donations· switzerland· dominican republic· birthday callouts· job karma· value for value

1:40:13 I'll start with $111, $110 from London. Another Londoner anonymous. Can you please not read my yeah-yeah? Give me some good karma it's been a very difficult summer and just a bad day want to start a new one with the good deed my donation of the show! The show is great! We will do some karma for that anytime absolutely You've got Karma Heck Yeah Alright John Catalano in 100 dollars in House Springs Missouri Colin Wilson, $99.99 from Rosanna Victoria Australia. They should give him a Niner thing. Okay hold on a second it's not all that easy. Yeah apparently. Hold on where is the niner?

1:41:00 I was already trying to get the 69er thing going. Frank Pew, 75 bucks from Tallahassee Florida thinks our shows are great and we've been hitting the home run left and right he did says I realize they live at the perfect trifecta of success sadly when i self-identified I was surprised it does not even get me free coffee Oh well. Andre Schmid... 69! 69, dudes! We had a slew of 69s again so it's gone from almost dead to way up. Schmidt is in Lucerne Switzerland that's kind of cool he got a birthday call coming for one his people Brian Brown in Orange California He says raining Peter Marks in Fairlawn New Jersey

1:41:54 May Swaziland never die. Sam Leung or Lee-ong in Toronto Sir Sam, Sir Michael Miller in Tiburon who comes with another 6969 Paul Gabrielson in Arroyo Grande 6969 Jeff Dickens 6969 from Winnipeg Manitoba who is a long time boner first time donor appreciates the hard work That was Jeff Dickens. Juan Francisco Lara Mija in Miami, Florida He's actually from the Dominican Republic apparently We just need more Dominican Republic guys listening

1:42:36 Michael Staduhar, in Sierra Vista Arizona. Charles Veitenheimer in Tucson Arizona and finally Sir David Baker in Groningen. Which I thought was Groningen. He's from Groningen again Netherlands. 69! 69 dudes! That's the north, that's the northern part of the Netherlands also known as the backup for Scandinavia. Okay. Fawn Fletcher 6413 in Espyville Pennsylvania there so they give the Espys out Edward Herrera and Davenport Iowa 6069 Mr Max Powers in Redding California 5555

1:43:27 Stephen Stephan or Stefan Nelson 5510 Wheat Ridge Colorado, Lon Baker Emeryville California over here 5510 right down the street from me Fawn Fletcher again 5413 in Espyville She says thanks for the show. I guess these crossed somehow these two donations from her Eric Schmidt in Frankfurt Deutschland Baron Jeffrey Gerlach in Lincoln, California. And he's a baron so he wants job karma we have to give it to him. You've got karma. Job Karma right there for you Baron. David McLean Cuba Missouri Charles Eaves Lake Zurich Illinois 50 each 50-02 for the Cuban Cuban Cuban Missouri

1:44:22 Keith Brown, 50 Scott Fuller, 50 from Spring Texas and Cumming Georgia. And finally he's with 50 John Bollard in Byron New York, Nahel Saeed, Nashville Tennessee Eric Veit in Dublin California that's down the street from me Robert Kruger, Aliso Viejo California. Lawrence Froncek in Lost Wages Nevada. Santiago Gomez in Edmonton Alberta just north of Calgary Dan Grabb Lansdale Pennsylvania Mark and Beverly Tanner in Whittier uh... and they came as a check their very uh... I think they sent a note Mary Mesner in Fair Oaks. They do have a note from Mary which

1:45:15 Fair Oaks, California? Yeah I believe so. Oh yeah you have to get Japan out again. Eric, I sent it to him but he didn't put this one down He needs a birthday callout for her... oh no wait he does have it on the list I'll bet! I did see it on the list just not highlighted in yellow. I'm fairly new listener my son Matthew has been listening for over year and punched me in the mouth I started listening back in January and have been telling others about your podcast. It is him who encouraged me to follow the show, I do feel like it value for my dollars by supporting the show." She also says thank you for providing informative and thought-provoking insights along with humor that keeps us from being dry and boring like everybody else's podcasts. You're doing invaluable service what?

CHAPTER 31 / 42 Discussion

No Agenda Knighthoods, Sir Valued Cardholder Ceremony

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Valued Cardholder and Sir Joseph Sukhbir, acknowledging their donations of $1,000 or more. The segment emphasizes the show's "value for value" model and its ability to broadcast from anywhere in the world, including a "hovel" in Amsterdam. The new knights are welcomed to the No Agenda Roundtable.

knighthood· sir valued cardholder· sir joseph sukhbir· amsterdam· podcasting· donations

1:46:11 I just thought that it's because here is why i'm laughing. I loaded up my iPod touch with four podcasts to listen to on the plane. They're dry and boring! I can't help it, it's like... I gotta listen to this one, I'll listen to that one, yeah she's right they are dry and boring It's a fact. They're dry and boring, and the ones that are trying to be just funny all the time? They're just annoying! They miss stuff... I hate to say this but i don't really hate to say it but im gonna say it This is the best podcast out there. The best podcast in the universe. It's unbelievably good. Hands down

1:46:52 And we bring it to you from anywhere in the universe. Anywhere in the world! Yeah, we have this guy in Amsterdam Adam Curry who's in some hovel and an Airbnb in a ghetto just above a massage parlor that he has to hear moaning and groaning all night... And its hot and very warm It's hot and muggy and stinks! Stinks I do stink So anyway, that's our donors for show three. What is it? Five That's our show people were so great 532 530 and I want to thank them and remind people that we do have a couple shows coming up that we're gonna need some help on and so Dvorak org slash na that's right here. There's a vorac dot-org slash in

1:47:42 And quite a list today we have Baron Jeffrey Gerlach saying happy birthday to Sir William Mason Gerlach turns 12 Wow, 21 on... well turn 21 on the 19th. Mom Mary just talked about her says happy birthday to Matthew Messer 17 on Thursday the 25th Roberto Bertrand says happy birthday to his fiancée Libby was her birthday yesterday Andre Schmidt says happy birthday to his brother Jean-Claude turning 29 today Peter Marks congratulates himself with his birthday and Sir David Bucker or Baker I would say Bucker

1:48:20 It's 33 today. Happy birthday from all your friends here at the best podcast in the universe And we have to Count them two nightings to do hold on let me get I get everything else situated here, which includes I brought this along with me whoops Did you bring yours? How did you get that through TSA yeah wasn't easy out so Valued card holder, step forward along with Joseph Sukhmer. Both of you today have come through with your full completion of knighthoods, which means rings are on the way. We still have a couple and we really appreciate your donation to The Noah Jenders Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and thereby I hereby pronounce thee Sir Valiant Car Holder and Sir Joseph Sickler Knights Of The Noah Jender Round Table for you! We've got hookers & blow, rent boys & chardonnay and a whole bunch of other stuff including mutton & meat. I can't read...

CHAPTER 32 / 42 Discussion

Beverly Hills Cannabis Club, Marijuana Moms

A group of affluent mothers in Beverly Hills has formed the "Cannabis Club," using marijuana to manage the stress of family life and chronic pain. Hostess Cheryl Schumann, dubbed the "Martha Stewart of Marijuana," claims cannabis makes her a better mother and human being. The segment notes a shift in terminology from "marijuana" to the more "elitist" sounding "cannabis."

cheryl schumann· cannabis· beverly hills· marijuana· medical marijuana· parenting

1:49:19 I have to admit it, I can't read today. So good news you know that if you study culture there's a lot of stuff that is culturally created and developed in the California culture New York is another cultural center In fact we have...I think we have a jingle for it what is wrong? Oops, something's wrong. Oh God! Here it is we have a jingle for it for whatever you're going to talk about Culture creationism. Wow pretty good I never heard that jingle before yeah it took awhile to hear but it was good

1:50:06 So, the thing in Los Angeles not San Francisco. I mean San Francisco does have its moments like in the 60s but generally speaking most of the culture is created in Southern California and so now we have a thing happening and that first I want you to play the this is the pot smoking moms and to start with the package in it will go on to the pot smoking moms themselves well also which one do i a opaque smoke and mom's packet okay hold on 1 second I am there for you know pick me up for some Beverly Hills moms they say its marijuana and that bad as new help

1:50:43 It makes them better wives, they say. Better mothers... it's all legal medical... Stop right there! Totally agree. Makes them better mothers and better wives. ...in California with marijuana purchased at dispensaries with a prescription that is giving new meaning to the term potluck party Oh no On a recent evening at home in Beverly Hills, a few moms gathered to enjoy food friendship and a few laughs. I do garnish incredibly well but this was no ordinary potluck party. Vaporizer time! Welcome to the Beverly Hills Cannabis Club

1:51:22 A place where marijuana moms congregate to take a break from the stress of family life. So this is strawberry coffee... Your hostess, the self-proclaimed Martha Stewart of marijuana, Cheryl Schumann Cannabis not only made me a better mom, cannabis made me a better human being. Cannabis made you a better mom? Absolutely! This is great There's a reality show in here right? Tell me there is a reality show. No, there is not yet but this messaging is dynamite and it has got to be just galling the DEA and all these other people because we are not in a dump We're not in somebody's basement or at a kids smoking dope Beverly Hills in a beautiful house

1:52:09 and there's a bunch, and all the women are gorgeous. And their daughters are there and they're all smoking from this big translucent bag I don't even know what they're doing. They're vaporizing, vaporizing. Yeah? Okay. Whatever! So they all have this thing and they are passing around and they are pleasant. They're not like, hey man, oh man I'm toast, I am wasted. There's none of that. It doesn't do it. This seems like it is ineffective but they are all happy or smiling in the second I want to play the second part but before we do that, i want to mention something for people out there who at some point this is going to become a big deal because it's gonna be a lot... The show began and I think this may have been a package put together because drug companies aren't advertising enough on Good Morning America. Because it started off with the slam against Prozac and some others. Right! Okay yeah, so you're not advertising enough? Hey if you guys don't advertise, we are going start advertising the free stuff

CHAPTER 33 / 42 Discussion

Raw Marijuana Dangers, Cannabis vs. Pharmaceuticals

A warning is issued against eating raw marijuana leaves, as microscopic hooks on the plant can cause digestive issues if not cooked. The "marijuana moms" of Beverly Hills argue that responsible cannabis use is a safer alternative to prescription drug overdoses, which are a leading cause of death for American women. The hosts discuss the strategic rebranding of the drug as "can-a-bus" to sound more legitimate.

cannabis· pharmaceuticals· raw marijuana· digestion· medical marijuana· branding

1:53:10 Exactly, so I think there may be an element of that but I do want to mention some just a side note. The woman who is the Martha Stewart of dope she is producing a bunch of food for these people and garnishing it with marijuana leaves and I want to remind people that marijuana should not be eaten raw under any circumstances It has to be cooked because it has these little, my next door neighbor a neurologist gave me this lecture. They have these little hooks, these very microscopic hooks that when they go through the digestive system it latches on to like the intestinal walls and hangs there for awhile giving you all kinds of cramps and other problems You do not ever eat marijuana okay? Another fun filled tip

1:53:59 From the Noah's Shed. So these women, again this leaf garnish is not a good idea. So she's an idiot. Let's play the moms talking about this and how cool it is Are they baked? These moms when they're talking here That's the joke of it! They are not! They just kind of happy One day I was at my therapist office And I told him please help me get my life back He said you need to smoke a joint so I took a hit off of it I was smiling and happy and I was like This is really great But critics might say, yes you are high.

1:54:34 I was definitely medicated but i will tell you that, I felt better having two puffs of cannabis at that time than I had ever had any kind of results with pharmaceuticals. Cheryl's daughter Amy agrees. I felt like my mom was checked out on prescription pills it was like living with a zombie but when she would smoke she was smiling She is connecting with us It felt like we have our mom back Medical marijuana is now legal in 18 states, but parenting and pot? Still taboo. You know though there are people out there thinking mothers who smoke pot are bad moms I'm gonna tell it from this point of view of my 10 year old child when i'm in pain I'm in bed for days I don't talk, I miserable My son will come up to me and say mom its time to medicate That's what he means He means go get some cannabis Come back to us

1:55:32 That's what I tell you if your 10 year old child is okay with it. I think adults should be okay with it It's a controversial story, but you know there was a headline recently that more women in America are dying of prescription drug overdose than anything else and then anyone else so these moms maintain that marijuana used Responsibly is a safer alternative we should point out bought with the prescription yeah Wow That was good morning America Yeah. Wow, yeah wow that's uh... That's slamming them. This is the way publishers are supposed to operate not that I'm saying that this is what you do and it isn't ethical but there are two ways things can go down in publishing and I would include the broadcasting industry one the advertisers push you around right too you push the advertisers around and that certainly works here

1:56:32 that serves the audience better. So they are shoving it up the butts of these guys who apparently are not advertising enough and at the same time creating this very interesting meme, and I think the other takeaway from this that i got was that constant use by the women, the moms, the Beverly Hill stoners is the word cannabis. Instead of marijuana, right? Cannabis! shit or Mary Jane or anything. Weed! They don't call it anything, they call it cannabis and I think that's a very interesting change because that has a legitimate sound to it that doesn't make you sound like a doper now this is in fact... In fact, I think you need to write that down I think that belongs in the red book I think there's a very good catch but we need to specify that you also have to pronounce it a little elitist, it has to be can-a-bus

1:57:28 I can't just be cannabis, it has to be cannabis. Cannabis and i think we'll see...I think this is a good catch John! I'm down with that but it could also It could also be a lead-in to synthetically produced cannabis which will..which we've been waiting for this to come onto the market. It could be very elaborate lead into that It's possible, but the way they were slamming the pharmaceutical companies in that piece I don't think this particular piece had anything to do with that. That would be a separate promotion of propaganda. How about the word hemp? Do you think it will be used or is just really cannabis? Cannabis is just... I think hemp is going to...I think they're gonna separate the two because hemp is now showing up. I just bought as a matter fact some hemp

CHAPTER 34 / 42 Discussion

Hemp Products, Industrial Uses of Cannabis

The discussion explores the versatility of the hemp plant, which can be used for milk, rope, paper, and fabric. It is suggested that the Hearst Corporation historically lobbied against hemp to protect its timber and paper mill interests. The hosts note that industrial hemp contains negligible THC and is an easy-to-grow "weed" that was unfairly criminalized.

hemp· hemp milk· hearst corporation· paper mills· thc· industrial hemp

1:58:22 No, but I bought some hemp fudgesicles. Yeah so I'm at the grocery outlet or as we call it locally grossout which I like to shop at because they have all these experiments and things that they tried the market, they couldn't so it all goes through this system. And it comes over ends up gross out you go buy stuff is oh thats an interesting test no one or nobody wanted it well one of the things they have right now in the ice cream section are hemp bars by the way their absolutely fantastic and what happens when they have two men there was a fudgesicle so they have fudgesicle

1:59:03 is, and it's made with no zero milk and no soy milk or any of these other things. It's made with hemp milk I don't know what hemp milk is but apparently you can make a milky substance by whipping up the hemp around into it But its just protein right? There's nothing else in there The marijuana plant...I'm sorry the cannabis plant It's a fantastic plant, it's magical. You can build all kinds of stuff out of it. It burns hotter than coal you can eat it there are million things that you could do with which is obviously why its illegal! And you could make rope from it? Yeah. You could make paper from it? You could make fabric from it? Depending on the breeding of the plant I mean the rope usually doesn't have enough THC to do anything

1:59:57 But essentially there's all these things you can do with the product. It's just a testament, it was amazing that they made it illegal. The Hearst Corporation had something to do with that because they own a bunch of forests and they don't want hemp acres. That is the story I always learned... The Hearst owned all of the trees, you know the paper mills but people were able to figure out they could make paper a lot more effectively with hemp and it would be a lot cheaper. And by the way its called weed for a reason because basically just throw that into some mud and it grows right? It's very easy plant to maintain. Yeah so I think this was a very

2:00:44 piece that did because it's from the culture capital is Beverly Hills and got the women so women oriented not man there wasn't a guy in the place all women and they're on the mom is back from being medicated in an idiot she couldn't get out of bed all the rest I mean this is messaging with like just jaw-dropping now like it's all expect to see more of the same yeah I like it well we'll say either that or will get a whole bunch of new new products Of course it is also summertime, advertising is low anyway. It's not really time I think everyone has loaded up on their prescription and they're off on holiday, they're all popping the pills but its possible! I hope you wrote it down, keeping up the whole cannabis vibe that's a good point. I'm surprised, very surprised that was on ABC

2:01:39 Yeah. Can you imagine if we had Diane Sawyer smoking a joint on ABC? Like, eh-eh! She could do it. I think she'd be better stoner. Eh-eh! Whoa man! Wooo! We won't be able to use our jingle though. My head's spinning, man! Get that stuff! We'll need a new jingle. Drunk again, drinking cyan, dying drunk again. I'm stoned again? I love me some drunk Diane Sawyer. Stoned would be even better, I agree

CHAPTER 35 / 42 Discussion

The Newsroom, HBO Drama and Media Slams

The HBO drama "The Newsroom," created by Aaron Sorkin, is criticized for its "gratuitous slams" against states like Oklahoma and its rewriting of history. The hosts mock the show's portrayal of "real news" and share a tangent about how women notice details like "nipples" or public indecency that men often overlook. The show is dismissed as an elitist production that fails to resonate with average Americans.

the newsroom· hbo· aaron sorkin· oklahoma· jeff daniels· media criticism

2:02:17 So I'm watching that you did the news hour or whatever, you know that drama about this liberal news thing. Whatever it is...news show? I have no idea what you're talking about. It's called Newsroom or Newshour. It's a drama! Oh no, oh no, you mean on HBO where they pretend that the news is real And then they also rewrite history. It's the Sorkin thing, yeah. Yeah, Sorkin! We saw one episode before we left and it was kind of like that it was the season opener and I was like whatever

2:02:59 No, it's terrible. But I saw...I've got this little clip that is called Oklahoma Slam and so i'm watching the show and they're talking about there are two shows that compete within the structure of the drama right now one of the shows has got different guys from the other show and its bull crap but in this one show they have a woman going on about all the stupidity Americans don't know there's a moon you know they can identify Illinois on a map They can find the Middle East on a globe and that kind of thing. And so they're rattling this off, some of these details I don't have just short clip and then out of the blue because they're doing it from the perspective of one of the producers watching the woman yak about this and then he makes a gratuitous slam! And i'm just thinking what? What who woke up by on the wrong side of the bed about this in which the Civil War was fought

2:03:52 One in four thought Columbus discovered the new world sometime after 1750 and if the Bill of Rights were abolished, a third of high school students wouldn't be able to name a right they just lost. Things get worse in Oklahoma where even more young high school students... I don't know! What's that about? She says things get worse in Oklahoma. And then he goes... Now they slip that in. Now they just slip that in. It's like..I think it's an inside producer joke or something I had this is slam. Yeah, but it's an insult to all you Oklahomans out there give to the no agenda show That's you know that the first I watched the first season of that show It's called is it called newsroom? Is that what its called seriously nice news or do something with uh, what's his name? Jeff Daniels know what's Daniels Daniels? Yeah, we're getting there You know they decide I watch that show. I watch a show with Mickey and

2:04:48 And also, here's how it goes. We're watching the show and then Mickey goes, Nipples! I'm like what? She says, Nipples! Apparently the producer chick whatever her name is, the British chick Yeah She said like her nipples are showing the whole show and I keep missing it Oh huh yeah apparently so did you Yeah, I didn't notice. Alright, I got a... You know women see a lot of things that are weird. Women will if there's a guy Mimi has pointed this out to me a couple times and i'm driving along you know and she says look at that guy he's got his dick hanging out

2:05:27 where and i said that's where is this really driving it was a large differences go san francisco we just the last time it happened was a few years ago it's not decided comment but it did drive along and we're going up the hill to get on the freeway, you know where you used to have a place. And there's this seafarers union and there is guy standing out in front of the place... Oh it's on the corner from where I used to live up there yeah Exactly! This guy is standing with his dick hanging out and she spots him immediately and she says that guys got his dick hangin' out So I look over at him and say what are ya talking about? I looked and looked and couldn't even see it because he was looking at his head or something and then I saw this guy with his dong hanging out and thought oh thats weird

2:06:09 and i'm reminded of a time that i was meeting you know what's the meanwhile when you're walking around house with your dick hanging out you can't get any attention exactly so i am uh... with the group of pc magazine in one of them p r girls outward yet it did in a car park at some hotel and one of the p our women says look at that guy is playing with himself The guys are all what's what? That guy over there that guy in the bin she pointed him out and you could I Would have never seen this in a million years women spot this stuff a mile away. The guy has got both hands in his pockets And he's obviously playing with himself if you took a good look excellent, good work

2:06:52 So congratulations ladies. Yes, it's something about the ladies they did both I'm telling you and I stopped that I stopped the thing I rewind it back see what he talked and lo and behold I'm trying to follow the story You know, I was like nipples. What? And now it's become a thing where when I watch the show I'm like, what are the nipples for that? I can't follow it anymore...I don't know. Well anyway there you go Here we are two dudes talking about chicks and what they see How sad are we? Happens At least we're not talking about comic books It's an inside joke Yeah thats pretty inside Well I was going to uh... I was gonna throw this one at ya here we go

CHAPTER 36 / 42 Discussion

Marvel Superhero Squad, Global Warming Propaganda

A Disney-owned cartoon, "Marvel Superhero Squad," is accused of pushing global warming propaganda to children aged 4 to 8. In one episode, a character named "Flatman" is mocked for suggesting the sun causes warming, while a "super genius" character corrects him by citing greenhouse gases and factory pollution. The hosts describe this as "slave training" for young children.

marvel· disney· global warming· greenhouse gases· propaganda· flatman

2:07:38 Adam's gonna read his email on the No Agenda Show. Hey! The show Marvel Superhero Squad, owned by Disney and geared for 4 to 8 year olds is a kiddie take on the Marvel superheroes I've seen many episodes and it never takes anything seriously but in season 1 episode 22 Flatman, a very boring superhero has a special message for the kids now remember this is eight disney show and this is from uh... our producer matt uh... who caught this and was kind enough to clip this the waters won't get any higher are used to believe that global warming could possibly

2:08:38 I've heard of the head in the sand approach. This is more like head under the water! Wreck your sword, Jann! Okay so could you hear that because it was volumes a little bit low? I could hear something about some some feet creep saying global warming's bogus right and then the kids go nuts on him Right so here's... So essentially we have this superhero flat man who of course you know that means he's like Flat Earth Man i guess and so he's against global warming. And here he is again with these kids, and this is just unbelievable slave training. Hold on let me see if I can up this volume a little bit...I'm sorry. I'm not at the normal station here so uh...can do this with some output? Yeah! Let's see if this works

2:09:30 Hello, I'm Dr. Balbin Shura also known as Black Man Welcome to the conference on global warming My assistant Repteal isn't a super genius like me So please forgive him if he says anything silly Let's begin Mr. Sun, as seen here has gotten angry with poor Mrs Earth and has decided to turn up the heat. Uh wait Flatman! Global warming is about greenhouse gases you know pollution that comes from our cars and factories it traps the heat from the sun You're welcome to your opinion but you're wrong Look at my powerful drawings Mr Sun is so mean Grrr

2:10:18 Wait a micro Tesla, why would you put a self-destruct button on this machine? Can you believe that oh That's a great catch and yeah Sorry about the levels but I think on the recording and on the live stream people are over to hear it. I mean that's unbelievable So they're essentially taking mr. Flatman the superhero And he's propagating the all the Sun was so angry with the earth But then, you know it's like no you're wrong and your bad that's bad for you to say that because its greenhouse gases. I'm like wow this is a propaganda for chill for little slavelets! Yeah exactly what is there's no denying it. Well in fact... The science is end! Science! You know regardless of what anyone's opinion is I think it's really not okay if we are either

2:11:17 Any type of messaging really like this in children's programming from Disney. It's some producer, you know with a hair up his ass You know it's probably uh...you know I know the type Yeah Anyway yeah that's disgusting well So i got an interesting little thing I thought was good Okay whatcha got? An ex-senator from New Hampshire who I think was a Republican of all things, was I believe rousted by some of the right wing people. But this is...I don't have him reading the note but I have that guy on Democracy Now! who takes over when Amy Goodman, that guy with the funny looking mustache

CHAPTER 37 / 42 Discussion

Gordon Humphrey, Republican Support for Edward Snowden

Former two-term Republican Senator Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire sent an email to Edward Snowden expressing support for his exposure of NSA surveillance. Humphrey, who served on the Foreign Relations and Judiciary Committees, stated that Snowden did the right thing in exposing violations of the U.S. Constitution. This stands in contrast to many other politicians who have labeled Snowden a traitor.

gordon humphrey· edward snowden· nsa· constitution· whistleblower· asylum

2:12:06 But Amy Goodman is not around reading the guy's letter and just didn't this I think is very cool. Well, I don't know what to play here It is Humphrey's sins not but it should be note. Okay? That's why I was confused okay here we go and Former two-term Republican Senator Gordon Humphry of New Hampshire who emailed Edward Snowden on Monday And he wrote in part, quote, Mr. Snowden provided you have not leaked information that would put in harm's way any intelligence agent I believe you have done the right thing and exposing what I regard as massive violation of the United States Constitution

2:12:42 having served in the United States Senate for 12 years as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, the Armed Services Committee and the Judiciary Committee. I think i have good grounding to reach my conclusion. I wish you well your efforts to secure asylum and encourage you to persevere." Okay... I just thought this guy Chris is a Republican kind of I guess old-fashioned Republican who cares about these sorts of things And nobody, everybody else is calling this guy a traitor and dipshit. Of course we have our own theories which are alien to everything else but the real point is that the way people react to him worth studying

CHAPTER 38 / 42 Discussion

Bradley Manning Trial, Aiding the Enemy Definitions

The Bradley Manning trial is exploring a legal theory that publishing information on the internet constitutes "aiding the enemy" because terrorists use the internet. This definition could potentially classify any whistleblower or journalist as a traitor. The hosts argue that Manning should only be charged with violating his terms of employment rather than capital offenses like treason.

bradley manning· wikileaks· treason· aiding the enemy· internet· whistleblowers

2:13:23 it's just like the one-day is one lone guy you know ex senator with good creds yes now i guess laughed yeah uh... says this is ridiculous and in the end it brings up the point i'm sure there's a bunch of exporters as another people are just saying why isn't everybody reacting like this? Well meanwhile we have the Bradley Manning trial going on which is getting I think very little attention from what i can tell or sporadic at best of course. Yeah they're trying to submerge that thing and they are also... yeah go ahead. So the whole idea here is, is to find a way to justify calling a whistleblower or anyone who

2:14:07 Essentially, anyone who does anything that is not on board with the program to classify you as a traitor and a traitor of course means you would be aiding and abetting, is it not comforting I think? Is it comforting the enemy? Is it aiding, abetting and comforting? Yeah. But I think comforting is also part of it. Not that thats relevant to this clip but the way they are now classifying Bradley Manning who leaked documents to WikiLeaks who of course WikiLeaks didn't actually publish it immediately they sent off to New York Times and The Guardian is

2:14:53 terrorist organizations use the internet therefore he should have known that the seven hundred thousand military and diplomatic documents that he leaked could end up in the hands of America's enemies one day. So, in other words if you do it...if you say anything on the Internet you know terrorists use the Internet and therefore your aiding the enemy yes well this is a lot of people believe I'm one of them at this is a is a ruse to go after all everything, freedom of speech, freedom of the press. And this shield law plays right into this because the shield law doesn't shield you from anything like this so if you write up any kind of thing like this red cell guy you write a scenario that may be giving somebody a good idea

2:15:49 You're aiding and abetting the enemy by these definitions, and they can get you for treason. So essentially you can't write about national security issues or scenarios or anything in fact they could probably make anything sound like your aiding the enemy what if you write a comedy act? The funniest comedy act ever is hilarious! And then the enemy whoever this nebulous enemy is let's say some lets see the organization to Ben Laden organization which is called that the yellow, yeah the BLO. Bin Laden organization yes so they listen to the comedy acting crack up it's hilarious to them is that not aiding and abetting the enemy? well certainly comforting them

CHAPTER 39 / 42 Discussion

Constitutional Definition of Treason, TPP Secrecy

Article III of the U.S. Constitution defines treason strictly as levying war against the United States or adhering to its enemies by giving them aid and comfort. The hosts discuss how this definition is being stretched in the digital age to include online leaks. They also touch on the secrecy of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and how it might influence future definitions of international crime.

treason· constitution· article iii· trans-pacific partnership· war· legal definition

2:16:34 Yeah, well that's exactly comforting them. And then what is the other thing? The wanton publishing. I mean this all is lining up like a perfect scenario to shut us down! It's funny because yeah...I also have a feeling that this Trans-Pacific Partnership thing, this TPP that it so secret somehow I have a feeling that plays into this as well you know what I mean? It's possible. Almost like a definition of Traitor let me just see I'm gonna just get the by the way have an undeclared war So I don't see how any of this fits in with aiding and abetting the enemy what enemy are we at war is The Congress declared war. I don't think so What is the is it's a definition of trade treason? That's where this treason? He said treason Let me just say, but I know we've looked us up before

2:17:27 uh... trees in the legal and then we have a thing isn't it is our constitutional treason clause there is a sense yeah but just says trees you can commit if you can you find that he agreed to add having hard time reading today domain at the definition of trees yes please uh... the constitutional definition if you don't mind would like me to play little music while you're looking this up Okay, well here's the straight up definition. Which is crime of betraying one's country especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government Right now but that that's kind of like what we would all understand but then you have the constitutional definition which is something about comforting and we've talked about this in aiding the enemy Yeah play little traveling music and I'll... Here it is Definition Treason In US Constitution

2:18:23 article three of the u.s. constitution and be the least open to please open yeah articles reestablishes a judicial branch of the federal government in the oblong which was treason here number courts this year's south as a constitutional scholar i'm i'm quite disappointed you can just wrap rattled us off the top your head this is uh... a s all and section three defines treason and its punishment. Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them... Oh, it has to be a war that's right it cannot happen if there is not a war which of course Bradley Manning was Iraq I believe was a declared war or was it no? No

2:19:15 uh... only only use of force was what the what's congress agreed to something for the iraq yes some book bull crap but they never declared war right ok treason again so it is this all in loving work against them or an adhering to their enemies giving them aid and comfort a little sister let me know now that we do have to be you have to dwell down taking me loosen this up a little bit Treason against the United States would consist only in levying war. In other words, I'm at war with my country. I've decided to go to war against the United States. Thus, I would be a traitor. But or in adhering to their enemies which if you don't have a war there's no enemies giving them aid and comfort No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses that's right this of the same overt act

2:20:08 The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work. Corruption of blood or forfeiture except during the life of a person attained." What does this mean? Attainer is... I used to know this! In English criminal law attainer or attain Atinctura was the metaphorical stain or corruption of blood which arose from the condemned for a serious capital crime until those not only one's property and hereditary titles but typically also the right to pass them on. Science!

2:20:51 I don't see how that means anything to me, to us. The Constitution defines treason as specific acts namely levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies giving them aid and comfort. The contrast is therefore maintained this is a Wikipedia with the English law whereby there are variety of crimes including conspiring to kill the king or violating the Queen were punishable as treason. The Supreme Court ruled that there must be actual assembling of men for treasonable purpose to constitute a living of war I think all this means if you put something on the internet your trader it sounds right to me i don't know I don't can choose to get you connect the dots already mmm I think you might mean I can see somebody thinking that whatever the case is it just as an attack on there's a horrible attack with yours manning didn't what did and do actually

CHAPTER 40 / 42 Discussion

Casino Movie Clip, Scorched Earth Policy

A clip from the movie "Casino" is played to illustrate a "scorched earth" policy where witnesses are eliminated to protect a criminal organization. The hosts use this as a metaphor for current government tactics in high-profile trials and investigations. The dialogue emphasizes the "why take a chance" mentality of those in power when dealing with potential leaks.

casino· martin scorsese· scorched earth· legal strategy· witnesses· movie clips

2:21:45 He violated his terms of employment, essentially. And that's what he should be charged with! He didn't do treason and any of these things that I can tell... You know sent out a bunch confidential memos he wasn't supposed to do. So it was 700 thousand cables? Yeah and all it did was embarrass Hillary Who likes who likes to do business at funerals Hey, what do you think of the dead guy? It's good he is dead. Hey by the way you should contribute to my husband Bill's library. Yeah it is a good project So talking about that type of voice I got the clip this is my last clip I think because I've always referring to this clip from the movie casino

2:22:41 where the gangsters are going around about this guy bumping the guy off lawyer best friend lawyer who's just a great guy and he said you know is an attorney they can't really charge with anything there but they're killing everybody in the process of this trial that that their only always old fart Midwest and the one guy at the very end is that leader whatever he really says goes everybody else just kind of a they they have put their two cents in but it's like this is the scene with the house to the rising sun playing in the background which we can ruins it to use it as an evergreen clip but I just want to get out there so we got I just had them play get them was used and I agree I think it's a good idea could you just put into context because we've been we have mentioned several times need to put the clip into context

2:23:30 of current day events. Instead of being reasonable, you do a scorched earth policy because why take Right in the... Anyway, this is a clip just to get it out of the way.

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Frank Wolf, Benghazi Survivor Non-Disclosure Agreements

Congressman Frank Wolf reported that survivors of the Benghazi attacks have been forced to sign additional non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) as recently as this summer. Wolf also claimed that a Marine Colonel responsible for special operations in Africa at the time of the attack is still on active duty, contrary to reports of his retirement. The hosts suggest these NDAs are being used to prevent damaging testimony before Congress.

frank wolf· benghazi· nda· cia· department of defense· whistleblowers

2:24:20 So today at the arraignment, they had this meeting right in the back of the courthouse. See when something like this happens you know how things are gonna work out It's always better with no witnesses so what about Andy? He won't talk Stone is a good kid Stand up guy just like his old man That's the way I see it I agree he solid A fucking Marine! He's okay, he always was Remo what do you think? Look Why take a chance? At least that's the way I feel about it. Yep, that's how we're gonna end Johnny Boy. Why take a chance? They're harmless those guys! Ah why take a chance... Alright i got a final clip this is um I think it says it senator Frank Wolf Is it Senator or Congressman? Frank Wolfe sounds like a congressman He may be a congressmen

2:25:19 The Frank Wolf has gone on this tear for the past couple days and he says he's just not going to stop. I get you know, we're of course when kind of the low season here and no one is watching. He's a congressman. Congressman so he's just he's just going at it every single day. Here's his latest and he'll be back out again tomorrow according to trusted sources that are contacted my office many if not all of the survivors of the Benghazi attacks along with others at the Department of Defense and CIA have been asked or directed to sign additional non-disclosure agreements about their involvement in the Benghazi attack. Some of these new NDAs as they call them, I've been told were signed as recently as this summer

2:26:03 It is worth noting that the Marine Corps Times yesterday reported that the marine colonel whose task force was responsible for special operations in northern and western Africa at the time of attack is still on active duty, despite claims that he retired. And therefore could not be forced to testify before Congress. If these reports are accurate this would be a stunning revelation to any member of Congress Any member of Congress defines this out and also more importantly to the American people. Which is why, of course it's all over the news! Well you got me on that one

2:26:44 What's this NDA business? I didn't know about which is that great. It's fantastic Why would you have people that were at a an event like well, of course We know why because if anyone's listen to our show long enough They don't like our thesis or joint thesis on this is pretty straightforward as kidnapping it That went awry when it's wrong. Yes and uh... ended up the guy getting killed in a whole thing falling apart and uh... she's humiliated everybody and there's a lot of people yelling we're sure at each other but now they're having inside n d days yeah really that is on believable that's not it but is not even national security letter it's an india what against worst-hitting arrested they're gonna sue you into oblivion or i'm and walk what is going to happen

2:27:30 I'd like to see the wording of the NDA. I bet it's worded like a national security letter with all these veiled threats. Yeah, I'm sure it is. Well we'll keep tabs on that if nobody else does Okay, John let's review. So I'll tell you what my schedule is and I'd love to hear what you're going to do so today is Sunday tomorrow we fly to the south of France that's where my friend Michel has a house and he will be there with the ambassador of Barbados

CHAPTER 42 / 42 Discussion

Travel Plans, Upcoming No Agenda Schedule

The hosts outline their travel schedule for the coming weeks, including trips to the south of France, Florence, and back to Amsterdam. Special "clip shows" produced by Ramsey Cain and interview episodes will be released while the hosts are in transit. The show concludes with a sign-off from the "third floor above the massage parlor" in Amsterdam.

france· florence· amsterdam· ramsey cain· airbnb· rijksmuseum

2:28:08 It's like a whole bunch of elites drinking champagne, so I'll have tons of stories from that. By the way the guy has narcolepsy and he falls asleep all the time while you're talking to him So I can't wait to see how he's doing Are they all Obama bots? I have no idea! No, I don't think so... Probably pretty elitist. I don't know if they're Obama- Well maybe that makes them Obama bots. I dunno. Hey, Michelle is English she's British He's against everything but he's a drinker uh... so will be a drink up the storm of course on thursday that we will release the ramsay cain no agency dot com produced uh... clip show which i'm looking forward to it and is going to be great because it's a third party is not what we think is good and he's really good at pulling apart you're pulling out little bits in shorter clips or might actually be as something you would call the primer or i would call the primer then on sunday

2:29:04 So actually I think Friday, Ms. Mickey and I will then drive from the south of France to Florence and go visit Willow But by the way! You made a joke about the Florence meetup Turns out we actually have a listener in Florence. Besides Willow? Does Willow even listen anymore? Yes, yes! Willow listens yeah and he said let's do the meet up but he is actually on vacation so he won't be there unfortunately. So you are going to have you and Willow. Well Willow with her husband and kids and Miss Mickey will stay... Oh man stop that Wow, why are you dinging me the whole time? I'm just in a dingy mood. I'm dingy. Okay sorry Then we're going to stay in Florence itself for two days at an Airbnb of course Why book a hotel ever again in your life then we fly back on Sunday or Monday and of course by then will have our interview show And then we're going to be I'm gonna be in Amsterdam

2:30:03 Stop it. I'm already tired stop make I didn't bring any noise makers either. I forgot all my toys Then we're gonna be here for five days No, actually the Sunday show I do from here so we'll be back now what am I talking about? Do I even know no, it's Thursday something you're lost that you've lost a dude. You know on Thursday Now the Thursday shit we do the Thursday show I thought was doing two shows here No. Just one show? The Thursday show, no the way it was scheduled... Yeah I don't even know what i'm talking about let me look at the calendar hold on a second am I saying this right so okay so 1 2 3 Sunday today is what is today 21st oh yeah now I got it I got it So the 28th is the interview show and then yes August first I do the show from Amsterdam

2:30:58 And we are here and we fly back on the 6th so I can do Thursday, the 8th show from back from the Travis Heights hideout. So Thursday... No hold on a second! Yes, Thursday 1st I'm here. I mean Amsterdam and I'll do another show from here Well what about what about the 4th? And I do that show from here too Okay, so you're doing a show on the 4th from Amsterdam Yeah. Yes. Okay. So the shows that we're not doing and it was that we produce is Thursday the 25th and Sunday the 28th. Right, right! And then I'm doing two more shows from here so Thursday the 1st I do the show from here and Sunday the 4th I do this show Are you gonna stay in that same location? No we have a different Airbnb also on 3rd floor in a different part of The Ghetto

2:31:52 Okay, is the internet connection be as good? Because this one was okay. This was okay The only problem is very noisy So even though I have the noise gate which keeps down some of it You know, I don't know if you could hear but there's any motorcycles going by cars sirens Yeah, that's it adds ambiance. I like that. Well, I'm glad you like it Alright so yeah And then I'm gonna see my daughter which is always fun. So I get to hang out with her and That'll be when we come back next week, and I will have stories. I'll have stories from the elites in France... I will have stories of cannabis from Florence! And uh, stories of dirty streets and whatever- Oh, also gonna go to the Rijksmuseum, Miss Mickey and I Which is now open again here. It's a nice museum. Well it's newly refreshed

2:32:51 So again, on Thursday we bring you Ramsey Cain's clip show. I guess we're going to do fresh intros for that so that'll be fun and then the interview show on Sunday Coming to you from the third floor above The Massage Parlor with the Purple Lights in Amsterdam Gitmo Nation Lowlands In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where my head is in the air too I am John C. Dorag We will back... kind of virtually real well screw it listen to the next episode you'll enjoy and that will be Thursday right here on no agenda the best podcast in the universe Dvorak.org slash n-a-r