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00:00 You don't know how to use the shells? Shells?! This is usually where you say that I'm following Britney Spears

00:39 No, but as you mentioned it did happen the other day and your name's still on there. And then so...and it shows up at this so you see me as a tweet and then it says Adam follows Britney Spears is that how it works? no-no On this on the left-hand column where it says who to follow I wrote a whole column about how stupid this is because I don't not interested in following half of these people right so you but they could do an analysis of who I talked to and what You know, they could they could do it align analysis and figure out whoever they should be following But they don't anyway So that shows up Britney Spears And then says followed by and names a bunch of name. I'm always on it Oh yeah at the top

01:20 Could you turn up your microphone a little bit? Could you turn up your microphone? Microphone is good, but if you can turburecrophone that would be better. How's this? Yeah! Oh wow world of difference. Oh yeah right Hey everybody, in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you early enough and in the morning to all of ships at sea feet on the ground subs in the water boots in the air and all the dames and knights out there yeah and in particular to all the subs in the Mediterranean waters we'll be talking about that later on this In this program, the Russians are now putting subs into the Mediterranean Sea. But the reason you are here is to cut through the bull crap and not that we have all of the answers to life in the universe—we do come pretty close—but this was a particularly interesting couple of days which really show you why you come to this program. Let us start with Spokeswoman Carney at The White House

02:20 uh... who did something tremendously interesting happened uh... this past week good friday afternoon ladies and gentlemen thank you for being here i appreciate your patience before i take your questions i just wanted to know because it's been reported we we did as many of you have a background briefing here at the White House earlier. A background briefing? I think 14 news organizations were represented ranging from online to broadcast TV, print and alike. I love that it makes it sound like hey man we invited a whole spectrum of journalists so that we were really open and transparent where really

02:56 We were inviting the people who are telling them what to say. Did you catch a little, he had a little dramatical thing he said? Oh let me roll it back and listen. Background briefing here at the White House earlier I think 14 news organizations were represented ranging from online... You missed it! No no I get it oh okay well lets go back I want to hear again Good Friday afternoon ladies and gentlemen thank you for being here I appreciate your patience Before I take your questions, I just wanted to note because it's been reported we did as many of you know have a background briefing here at the White House earlier. I think 14 news organizations... What was it?

03:38 He said, and thus by implication he said because it has been reported. Yeah oh yeah I know exactly because everyone was bitching about it. Because apparently one of the...and I by the way have to...I'm skeptical about this whole thing being what it looks to be It's possible because and they get it cuz he said because it's been reported cuz you wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't for that Correct Some one of these 14 organizations and by the way I challenge anybody out there to get a list of these people I couldn't do it. Although you can by processing, they should kind of figure it out. Well, also Associated Press obviously wasn't invited since they started grilling him right out of the bat. The first question yeah! But what I'm thinking is this because this was a bonehead move and it was obviously gonna get figured out because at the normal time of the press conferences when they had the background briefing and everyone else is standing around wondering what happened hey where's Bill you know? It's like...I think there may have been an attempt if this

04:50 I think they're doing these background things more often and i think they're looking for a leak so they can do it in private, so they can have these meetings in private and give people their walking orders. In this case somebody spilled the beans because Carney himself says or somebody who was reporting said that the real secret was that there were having the meeting in the first place right? That was the off-the-record part The rest of it was a deep background, which means just stuff they're telling you that nobody else gets to know about. A really deep background? Deep background means propaganda! Oh yeah no the whole thing is propaganda but I think they found the leak. Now they have to figure out who...I mean if they find there's a leak then they gotta figure out who did get him out of the 14. Who do you think it is? I don't know but Reuters found out about it right away. Right right

05:42 Interesting. Well, I'm going to take that as a good analysis. Deep background of course means we'll be seeing a lot of reports that say according to White House sources, unnamed White House sources because that's what it is right? Deep background means we're gonna tell you this but you're not allowed to mention anyone's name who told you this Which is a part of the most transparent administration in history. It's really phenomenal. ...were represented ranging from online to broadcast TV, print and the like... And the like? What does that mean? The online was the Huffington Post. What does that mean and the like? Was it Facebook there? We just call it The Like

06:26 I don't know, maybe some guy writes a newsletter. I have no idea. We do those periodically we hope that participants find them helpful. I will say that no one here believes that briefings like that are substitute for this briefing which is why i'm here today to take questions on whatever issues you want to ask me about and what happened to the old windbag they fired right away remember Yeah, you know here's a question for you. Have you noticed this? I mean I sure have no and I watched his press conference and when Carney gets a you know the simplest Question that he was just basically so why already answered that and go to the next one He doesn't do that anymore. He does what Obama doesn't I've seen oh, but I think Obama set the stage for this He just starts talking

07:13 Yeah, he's just this talk-talk yak. Yak. Yak. He says everything he said he's well it starts reading he starts reading literally Reading you can and president does this to date they had the four screens in that in that lectern He'll be and you know the lectern is way high. This is the whole trick there So the lectern if you look at it's on a podium I think Carney's probably standing on a box on the podium so he's looking down at the press as You know that they always have these crappy see are those even temporary there might be temporary chairs for all I know It always feels holding folding chairs right, so they're much lower and

07:49 And Carney with his glasses on, you can see him like feigning like he's looking down. But he's not looking down! He is looking straight at one of those four monitors in the lectern so he's reading off whatever they're preparing because they've got a whole research team in the back we have already uncovered this where it forgot to turn off the sound and then like its pinging and the screens are flashing Oh here's the answer boss Here it is use this one It's quite an operation But they had, yeah. You see this in other... One time I was there's a couple of shows of network radio shows that are not all of them but I've seen this. I went to do a show in Canada once and it was going to be a guest on some... And I can't remember the name of it but one of the big syndicated all throughout Canada morning shows

08:39 And they had the guys in a studio. I think it was, wasn't it The Morning Zoo A? No, it wasn't The Morning Zoo A. Hozer! So anyway... So I'm watching but they kept me out into the control room and there's like four people on IFBs or not. They're on the mics and these guys got the IFB in there, and they'd be asking questions and talking and these guys would provide right into the guy's ear. They'd be providing information to say yeah actually knew nothing

09:15 I think we mentioned that when MSNBC opened up, my company at the time was doing the chat because Microsoft couldn't... their servers wouldn't run a chat. So we had a Linux-based chat and then we had an Active Server Pages website on top of it but the chat was really robust because it was running on a Sun Spark server And because of that we were invited to the opening and you may recall, and this was out in Jersey somewhere on the other side of the George Washington Bridge. That Tom Brokshaw had President Clinton as a guest for the opening of MSNBC. So I got to sit in the newsroom and it was astounding to see not just how the questions were being fed continuously in Brokjaw's ear but how good he was at it!

10:10 Oh yeah, that's why he was so... Yeah. He was just talking and then the guy would be throwing a question like 30 seconds Tom ask him this and then you know while he's asking the question The assistant director is counting down 25 24 You've got 20 Tom Okay get Clinton wrap him up getting at 10 second answer And we're in commercial and the disgusting part of it is of course It's so directed you get no real information because I'm sure Clinton was hearing it too He's probably that he was probably that good to Anyway, so it's yeah bull crap Bull crap. So welcome to the media Well, it gets better so Scott Pelly of CBS CBS

10:52 He did a speech at some college and I pulled a 30 second soundbite which really shows why, again one of the reasons you're here is the mainstream news media makes it easy for us. These have been bad few months for journalism Yeah call it decades but okay months Decades for sure We're getting the big stories wrong Yeah! No! Don't say it ain't so And over again Let me take the first arrow. During our coverage of Newtown, I sat on my set and reported that Nancy Lanza was a teacher at the school and that her son had attacked her classroom. It's a helluva story but it was dead wrong

11:43 Now I was the managing editor, and made the decision to go ahead with that. And I did and that's what i said and I was absolutely wrong. Yay! That's right! Wrong! Wrong! Who fed him in the first place? He used it... Does he explain it? No no doesn't explain of course not. That is irrelevant. I like the fact that you said they're wrong. I think this is probably a news guy who does care But he's caught up and everything and he asked all the questions like why why do we have to be first? Well because that's the business, you know ever since broadcast news is the hard-on You people have is you gotta be first goes this goes way back before that This goes back to the days of the three four Newspaper towns And they're always competing for readership. And everyone was out to get the scoop well if it's for leadership then it's from then ultimately It's about money

12:35 Yeah, the scoop has always been about money. So that is the obvious elephant in the room that he's missing Now here is my favorite bit now we keep on talking about how compromised these news organizations are My favorite one of course is ABC as the president of ABC News I guess it's his sister is a I've said it incorrectly in the past. I go back and forth, I knew it was a family member It is his sister who is a high-ranking personal advisor in the Obama administration to the president But it's always more fun when you hear the mainstream media tell you how compromised they are And let's pile on CBS and CNN while we're at it I think the media has become in this story Let's face it CBS News President David Rhodes

13:25 and ABC News president Ben Sherwood, both of them have siblings that not only work at the White House but not only work for President Obama but they work at the NSC on foreign policy issues directly related to Benghazi. Let's call a spade, a spade. Let's also show you why CNN did not go very far in covering these hearings because the CNN deputy bureau chief Virginia Mosley is married to Hillary Clinton's deputy Tom Nides that it is time for the media to start asking questions why are they not covering this? It's a family matter for some of them. It's a family affair! Yeah there ya' go That's how works

14:07 You know another reason for the secret meeting of the 14. It's a family reunion Well, it may have been a family beatdown. They were just drinking! Oh right... with rubber hoses. ABC who was definitely in that meeting is the one who leaked the memo about the changes and Benghazi material Yeah that guy we're not gonna see a lot of him I don't think anymore No he's done CNN is hiring for HLU Utah channel 14 You can be on HLU right before Nancy Grace So talking about all this, I just pulled down the Pew Research Center for people in the press and what got me to this is the Scott Pelley comment that oh there's been a bad few months. This is the media credibility ratings by both parties as a combined thing and it shows this ridiculous decline of for example

15:07 There's a decline, 60 minutes has declined from 35%. Oh by the way. The baseline on this... Let me just go to News Organizations Believability. The high number is 33% people believe 60 minutes believes most or all or most. Hold on a second. You gotta love it! Of course What? Yeah, that's what the report does over with the 33 and then it goes down CNN 29% Believes Fox News 27 percent which is higher than Wall Street Journal Which is 25%. This means people who believe all or most. Yeah you get down to USA Today 17% And I'm New York Times just above them at 20 have to tell you that USA Today as I feel has gotten good

15:58 Well, they got a new editor. They took Larry Kramper the guy who used to run Market Watch over here in San Francisco is now the publisher and he took his editor at Market Watch and now he's the editor over there. Well that won't last because the paper is printing too much truth that has to stop go back to the pretty pictures and the color. But meanwhile they have another one ranking by from 2000-2010 and with let's see pretty much no exceptions the numbers have dropped dramatically except Fox has gone up with Republicans only, with Democrats it's gone down. Of course! There is no credibility the media has lost all its credibility for 10 years and it's just getting worse and there's no reason for a show like ours what? There's no reason for this show What do you mean? If the media was doing its job Oh I'm sorry you scared me for a moment there

16:53 If the media was doing its job, yeah there would be no reason. People wouldn't be turning to various podcasts and a lot of people just listen to nothing but podcasts... ...to get some sort of perspective that makes sense! By the way- I mean most of this stuff we do is just logical it's like wait a minute this guy said this and this guy said that and this guy said this with then then this answer can't be right? Yeah yeah. I have on high authority that this show is perfect for a half marathon If you're slow. Sure. If you're slow or if your full marathon, if you're like a pro but yeah apparently it works really well although so this was producer Jane here in Austin who told me she ran the half-marathon listen to the show

17:40 But there was a guy who died next to her so she didn't know if that had anything to do with it or not. A guy died next to her? Yeah! He just fell down dead, 23 years old. These marathons don't sound healthy...23 years old?! It's always like some weird heart thing. That'll be me Yes, already gone past the drop dead deadline. Some weird hard thing Anyway so this all kind of leads to where I believe the media will be focusing its attention Of course we have the 2014 midterm elections coming up that'll be a That'll be quite annoying and we need lots of money spent on the media So this is maybe positioning as to who's gonna get all the money We know there's going to be

18:25 that they have to stretch out this guns thing because that really makes women shun anything Republican, anything other than the Democrat Party which I think is a really smart strategy. But then along this we're going to have the legacy of this president which he... Now all leaders of the free world as far as i can tell are megalomaniacs they are insane I don't, i can't think of many who just aren't. And I've met politicians John you've met politicians they're all a-holes They are all above you they always look down at you Have you ever meet a politician who didn't get that feeling from? No Thank You! and you have met couple in your time right? Quite few In the old country in Euro land it's even worse than just really like Who are you scum That is the feeling you get from talking to them Sorry if didn't lick your boots

19:20 So our president of course is no exception and his show that he does, and I'm one of the few people who watch it. In fact if the media watched this show they might learn a couple things And i was kind of taken aback by what he was saying just well check out for yourself Of course we always start with a hefty... Hi everybody! Hi everybody Our top priority as a nation is reigniting the true engine of our economic growth. That's my favorite, that's the only thing I can think of is how can I reignite the engine of growth? A rising thriving middle class and few things define what it is to be middle-class in America more than owning your own cornerstone of the American dream. Now I want to say that I received an email that my FICA score has gone up

20:14 Do you know what your FICA score is, John? By any chance. No not offhand So I have 662 Yeah and I don't even know what that means Which is right... When I was a kid they didn't have FICA scores Well this is a lot of what the president is talking about really And he's touted this before The FICA score is so 662 is right above the red line and underneath the yellow line So I don't know if i'm going to get any cornerstone of the American dream Mr. President No one wants to give me any money for that A home Today, seven years after the real estate bubble burst Triggering the worst economic crisis since The Great Depression Costing millions of responsible Americans their jobs and their homes Our housing market is healing Sales are up Foreclosures are down

21:08 I'm sorry. Sales are up, foreclosures are down, costs are down sales are up everything's great hockey stick construction is expanding expanding thanks to rising home prices over the past year 1.7 million more American families have been able to come up for air because they're no longer underwater on their mortgages i love all of the the analogy writing this material wait for it because Cameron so who is responsible for all of this John who do you think Bush would take responsibility actually just cause of the upside just for all the good him yeah but how he does I was amazed literally just like how from the day I took office

21:51 I've made it a priority to help responsible homeowners and prevent the kind of recklessness that helped cause this crisis in the first place. My housing plan has already helped more than 2 million people refinance their mortgages, and they're saving an average of $3,000 per year My new consumer watchdog agency is moving forward on protections like a simpler short- My new... it's like, what is he the sheriff? My my ideas! My ideas! ...for mortgage form that will help to keep hardworking families from getting ripped off. Ripped off But we've still got more work to do We've got more responsible homeowners to help. Folks who have never missed a mortgage payment but aren't allowed to refinance How about folks who just want a mortgage, but can't get one because of your stupid FICA thing that is all wrangling everybody? Working families who've done everything right But still... I just wanted you hear kind of how he's taking credit now You know like I did this and this is my plan Yeah I like the my-my-my thing There's no there's no my in team okay

22:55 There's no my in team dude, but Almost on par with something he said in his State of the Union and Something we've been tracking it has all been about this We must do more to combat climate change. And now you and I have talked about this This is from his state of the union where? Of course It is quite clear that we are going into a global cooling so we need to get everything in place. We need to get all these things rocking and rolling before the temperatures really start to drop, so that he can say my climate change plan... Are you ready for it? Save the Earth! Did you see New Yorker magazine? No Oh my goodness Okay I'll bring it up here It says that President Obama

23:49 is possibly the only man who can save the earth. He has four years to save the earth, this is what it says! It says why Obama might actually be the environmental president and let me finish the rest of the State of The Union speech because this good to remember what he was saying. It's true that no single event makes a trend

24:27 However, but the fact is the 12 hottest years on record. Uh-huh have all come in the last 50 Is that true John I don't know it depends on how you look at the numbers like yeah, yes heat waves droughts wildfires floods all are now more frequent and more intense. Except for hurricanes! I don't know what happened to the hurricanes that are also frequent and intense? Super Hurricanes, because ever since when it hit New Orleans you're supposed to have two or three a year gonna destroy everything Where is it?! We can choose to believe that super storms Sandy

25:10 and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence. This is... this is right now I've forgotten what he had said here we can choose to believe that or you can choose to believe whatever he's going to say Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science. The judgment of science? Science! The judgment of science! Judgment of science... Wow, I didn't know science made judgments. Judgments?! Shut up already! It's science! An act before it is too late. Act! By the way, a-a-act is part of fa-act so you know there is an act in fact

25:54 You want to say something? Okay, this yeah it wasn't New Yorker magazine. It was New York Magazine I'm sorry well yes New York Magazine because New Yorker Magazine actually in earlier in April had has Obama already given up on climate change and taken a completely different tact Oh I'm sorry New York Magazine you are correct States have ever seen we're all just a freak coincidence or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science and act before it's too late Now the good news is we can make meaningful progress on this issue while driving strong economic growth. I urge this Congress to get together, pursue a bipartisan market-based solution to climate change like the one John McCain and Joe Lieberman worked on together a few years ago." You gotta see that video it's so funny they put the camera on McCain he's like pooping his pants like uhhhh

26:52 uh... yeah, why mention me? what's his name Schumer sitting next to him going like yea he called you out bitch if congress won't act soon to protect future generations oh what then I will okay i will direct I will I will direct my camera to come up with executive actions we can take now and in the future to reduce pollution prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy. Okay so what we've been looking at in the past couple weeks in this initiative is mainly the communication of climate change and we had a big one take place right after our show on Thursday And this is the 400 parts per million John

27:42 And I spent some time this morning before the show to count them here in Austin, and indeed we have 400 parts per million of carbon dioxide in our environment. And you know what the magic number was don't you? No. 350! Oh, no! Do you not remember 350 dot org? Oh yeah, 350 dot org I read from there and this has been on NPR it's like this is growing so we had this Benghazi thing that's annoying but this is a slow build On May 9th... wait

28:20 On May 9th, for the first time ever, the world's most important CO2 observatory measured daily concentrations above 400 parts per million. 350.org is named after 350 ppm, the safe level of carbon in the atmosphere Passing 400 is a sober reminder that we have much work to do The only good news... We're doing it Together we are building the kind of movement we need It will be hard There will be setbacks but we can and must keep building None of us are alone in this fight And as the temperature continues to rise So shall we

29:05 So that's your... He doesn't really say that. It says, so we will. So will we! So will we? Is that what I said? Yeah you said shall Oh i'm sorry. Yep. I like mine better. I didn't want them to be more of feet than they actually are. I'm sorry. That was... So will and shall Anyway and then they got this subdomain 400 dot 350 dot org But wait look at this picture Do you see there's an outline of a polar bear like he's been shot Yeah. You know, like they have the outline of the dude where he was laying on... I guess they couldn't find an area where there wasn't snow to do this? Is that what we're getting at here? Is that the impression you're getting? I don't know but there's an outline of a polar bear. It said snow! So did you look into this subdomain? Yeah oh yeah and are you kidding me i've been all over this so this is um uh it's the communications is really what's happening

30:00 Now I don't think John or I really think that you know Everything is predicted as coming to fruition or that we're in. We've just been weird. We're too old to fall for this anymore Which is we've been around the block from one guy James Hansen the former NASA climatologist who brought everybody Everybody has attention to this thing and he looks like a kind of crazy guy. So there's all these communications going on, and everyone is pitching in trying to help trying to figure out how can we do something about this because you know were really losing the fight so we get like a super... They are loosing the fight not in big way but they're loosing it but they still recover Well here's something I found

30:46 this is from the same Climate Change Communications Institute over there at Yale. 99 one-liners that rebut climate change, deny your talking points and I just love you know progressive...I've got to read some of this to you. Progressive... So wait wait wait! You found a talking point memo that rebuts other talking points? Yeah but it's a cheat sheet that you can use when you apparently are having dinner with your idiotic friends Progressive should know the disin... Wait, wait. You should have it printed out and at the table when they have dinner with you. Yes! I just put it down next to the place mat. Laminated. Progressives should know that disinformers most commonly used arguments and how to answer them crisply

31:37 Those arguments have been repeated so many times by the fossil fuel funded disinformation campaign. Hey, where's our money? Where is my fossil fuel funded disinformation cash people! It can we go to the Department of Fossil Fuel Funded Disinformation Campaign money and get some of that Alright, so we had the skeptic argument and then the one-liner to response. Okay? You want to do a couple of these? This is very smart. Okay because we need to do this too Yeah It's like yeah it's like you know We need just the answer is always... We need a fact that does this The answer is always send money Dvorak dot org slash NA That's the answer to everything All right number one Skeptic argument climates changed before

32:27 One-liner response. Climate reacts to whatever forces it changes to at the time, humans are now the dominant force! What? That's a terrible answer! That's the one... That's not what I would write, I would have written a much better retort. Alright well here is number two It's The Sun! Uh..the answer In the last 35 years of global warming sun and climate have been going in opposite directions. Pfft they have a divorce or something That's bad. That's not very good. That's not good either, and I don't even believe it is true! No. Number three... It's Not Bad. That would be what i would say. He's not so bad. And your response should be? Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture health an environment far outweigh any positives These are terrible! Here's my favorite There Is No Consensus Oh yeah?!

33:28 97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming. Yeah and anyone else who says anything other gets shouted down I don't think this counts, that's what i would say. These are not good. It's cooling! We could do a better job yeah well we should probably you know be really smart they can do their own work. We're not unpaid consultants. True. Models are unreliable And their answer is, models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally by land in the air and the ocean. What I would say is, yeah models are unreliable you can't get those bitches to take their clothes off whenever you want them too! Yeah they're ba-ding! Hey! So there's 99 of these...99! Here's one ice age was predicted in the 70s Now John here's here's the answer to this one No dude

34:29 The vast majority of climate papers in the 1970s predicted global warming. What? That's just a blatant lie! Anyway, so in other words you're supposed to this is that this is what these guys are up to yeah Yeah makes sense to me. So there's more as far as I'm concerned This is just more proof that they're full of shit, so there is something we have to be on the lookout for This is the NRDC this is and this is kind of what this New York article States as it says Obama has four years to save the earth so the way they look at it the Clean Air Act

35:09 which is the responsibility of the Environmental Protection Agency, who have enhanced regulatory powers now. They only have to just make up a rule for the coal-fired energy plants to really change everything in just one day. Now, it was already the EPA who said you know what by 2020 all cars have to do 57 miles per gallon there was no hearing there was no debate they just made it up and he said okay this is what you got to do

35:45 So this is the kind of power that they have and that is taking place, and it's not really being challenged. So you have the NRDC, the National Resources Defense Council, and this a pretty big group. You can find them at nrdc.org John if you want to follow along They say the EPA has both the authority and responsibility to reduce pollution from plants under the Clean Air Act, a nation's bedrock air pollution law adopted in 1970. This is their strategy. They are saying that who signed the Clean Air Act

36:23 was Republican Richard Nixon. So this is going to be the new strategy, hey it was a Republican who put this in place and we have the EPA who has the power vested in them by the President who said here you have power they can now change uh... the rules for fire for coal-fired plants and in january two thousand eight then candidate barack obama famously said the following or if somebody wants to build a coal fired plant they can is just that it will bankrupt them because they're getting be charged by huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being admitted and that is exactly what is going to happen and it is being fought as uh... inhofe

37:06 Who of course, credibility wise is none. They make him look like a total douche but he has done something interesting and he has stopped EPA on their so-called endangerment finding. So the EPA did a test and they said, oh well you know what these coal fired plants it's they're endangering the world, the greenhouse gases that we're all gonna die they're gonna kill us but they broke their own rules and this is what he's stopping them on And I tried to figure out what exactly was going on. The inspector general uncovered that the EPA failed to engage in their very own required record-keeping process and peer review procedure for any science that they regulate upon,

37:53 So what had they done? They had done a study to prove, and it's very easy to get desired results out of the study if you want to prove something. That the 400 parts per million were endangering the world we're all going to die so we have to cap and trade and certainly tax. And who did they send that too for peer review? Who? The IPCC. Oh, the IPCC! And by the way let me just remind everybody who listens to this or screeds about this if you're serious that this is taking place and it's a disaster it's gonna ruin the world why are you doing cap-and-trade? You do CAP!

38:38 What is the point of trade if you this is so bad? You cap it, you cap it. You don't cap and trade! Cap and trade is part of a giant scam... And talking about scams by the way The board of trustees of the NRDC which has a bunch of hot shot CEOs at the front. If you go down a little bit Robert Redford Leonardo DiCaprio The head of Sony Pictures It's the communicators Really, you don't say? This is what I love because i was like Is John gonna look at this website. Is he there yet? Thank You finally! I didn't want to have to do all the work and then so today... Sorry yesterday no this is Friday May 10th we get a very important message from the White House and while everyone's bitching and moaning about whatever they bitchin' moan about I got a very important note here The National Strategy

39:33 for the Arctic Region. And let me just read, because this is very concerning. The Arctic region is rapidly changing while the Arctic region has experienced warming and cooling cycles over millennia the current warming trend is unlike anything previously recorded as sea ice diminishes ocean resources are more readily accessible This accessibility along with recent scientific estimates indicate the presence of significant energy and other resources have inspired strong interest for new commercial initiatives in the region and then it flows back into all kinds of global warming crap. And so, of course they have the strategy written out which I figured out to download and highlight for you can find in the show notes 512.nashownotes.com

40:23 As we recognize how to make the most of the emerging economic opportunities in the region, we recognize that we must exercise responsible stewardship using an integrated management approach making decisions based on best available information with the aim of promoting healthy sustainable and resilient ecosystems over long term. The Arctic Region is peaceful stable and free from conflict time for Americans go in and fuck it all up bitches were coming! Through the National Strategy for the Arctic Region, we articulate our strategic priorities to position the United States to meet the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead. And it's about 30 pages and there are a couple of major points. Advance United States security interests – yes Russia this is for you! We will enable our vessels and aircrafts to operate consistent with international law through under

41:17 over the airspace and the waters of the Arctic, support lawful commerce, achieve a greater awareness of activity in the region which means drones and intelligently involve our arctic infrastructure and capabilities. Which means oil gas back off everybody we're claiming this We are claiming it. It's just when we own the Arctic, it's not even bumping into our country! Oh, it's even better than that! I can see the Canadians being a little... Nooo! Oh no, I'm sorry. Uh uh uh uh. We will consult and coordinate with Alaska natives because they own it. Alright Alaska, that's the ticket.

42:00 Even as we work domestically and internationally to minimize the effects of climate change, the effects are already apparent in the Arctic. Ocean resources are more readily available as sea ice diminishes but thawing ground is threatening communities as well as hindering land-based activities including access to resources that to me translates as hey Are you a native Alaskan? Forget the fish Forget all that. But down at the bottom of this document, there's two pieces where it really comes down to obviously the point mentioned here provide for future United States energy security. It's always that pursue responsible Arctic region stewardship but then this is what now we understand a seed to the law of the sea convention

42:49 Remember we've talked about this the law of the sea? We talked about it quite a bit. A session to the convention would protect US rights freedoms and uses of the sea in airspace throughout the Arctic region so we've looked at this Law Of The Sea, and It would essentially give us a lot of rights To The Arctic Region And give us a Caribbean based In fact Jamaica based court the right to litigate anything that, I don't know Russia thinks is theirs or should Alaska think that they...that the federal government has no business up there? They would also legislate that. That's what this is about! This is why Hillary Clinton was up there. Remember she was on the icebreaker like floating around oh it's so beautiful Oh I'm looking at climate change now she's putting flags down for her buddies in the oil and gas industry that's what she's doing

43:45 Yeah. And marking it off so that Russia, who had flags on the bottom of the ocean many many years ago basically telling them to go pound sand but I think a deal has been done John Now with the Russians? Yes! Oh yes! Yes...I think a deal has been done there is now this was breaking news that the Russians are going to put four warships, five more warships. I'm gonna get the article... The Mediterranean Task Force here we go Russia's Mediterranean task force will comprise 5-6 warships and may be enlarged to include nuclear submarines so this is the Mediterranean okay now we know that the Russians have been having extensive talks with Israel

44:36 mainly about Leviathan of course, which is the huge gas field that we've been talking about for a couple of years. But they will now be opening a new port, Port Maya and that will be... this is confusing because Port Maya if you look for Port Maya you'll see there's one in Mexico that of course it's not in the Caribbean. Port Maya is Cyprus so the way it looks like it's turning out is, you know the Russians have started to back off a little bit on Syria. So they've got their corridor. Their corridor of Syria is no longer going to be put down because they don't care about it because they have the port looks like that's just gonna fall apart The reason why that has to fall apart is because that has always traditionally been Russia's

45:23 corridor for anything they want to ship through, they go through Syria. And of course the other side of the equation wants the Georgian connection, they want Boku, they want it coming from the Black Sea everything goes through Turkey who oh that's kind of who our friends are now right? Isn't Turkey like our friend against Syria this is what you got to be looking at all the pipes all the gas pipelines to Europe run through Turkey ultimately So it looks like Russia's doing a deal with Israel not to pipe gas in from their region, but to take the gas right out of Leviathan. Pump it right through Cyprus Greece Italy into Europe that's their path and now they put warships in the Mediterranean to protect their turf and I think its like okay you guys get that we'll take this screw all the rest. And I think there has been...I think we have done a deal

46:20 Well, it's a possibility. I mean there is no way... and i would say that only because there has been so little play of the Russian invasion of the Mediterranean with their ships which makes zero sense if you really think about it except unless they're there for a reason and they have talked to Israel and this would be a common what else somebody talk to him about. There's nothing else I'll talk to him about. No, there is nothing! What are they going to do? Are they gonna exchange chefs? No, there is only two things we can talk about shekels and gas like what else oh we're done good night

46:57 Well if that's true, that means the Syria story is going to start to change. Yes it has too because it's just no longer important but now this is where it gets complicated so there well there isn't... It's important that Turkey remains good buddies and Turkey you know they've got all their like century-old issues so then so that they may not be like what we gotta stop? What? And you give us all these Syrians? It's true. The Turks will be and they're Muslim extremists running the country even though they aren't supposed to be by law, and they have their never-ending battle with the Kurds which is Iraq supposed to be our buddies because we made... Well it's the same as there's a lot of the Kurds are in Syria so that's all kind of the same anger that's going on

47:51 And it makes total sense. This is why we're not in, this is why the president is doing anything he can to avoid conversation about the red line and you know... The whole red line as it turns out now was not like oh don't you pass that red line! Oh son! It was like they'll never do that I mean who gives a...I don't want to do anything with Syria? Its' no good Well I think that would also account for the stories that have come out that its..it's the rebels who used the gas exactly that that is our own plans we dislike please let it not be can't be decided i can step over the line has got to be someone else actually have the uh... guys ahead of from uh... from last week here's a little love report on that putting power investigation for this is the u n inspector crimes against humanity and war crimes collects some witness testimony

48:46 that made to appear that some chemical weapons were used, in particular Nervin gas. And what was... Ah it's just Nervin gas. By the way this is the voice of the elites. Oh yeah! Yes it is what appear to our investigation that was used by the opponents, by the rebels. And we have no indication at all that the government, Syria, the authority of the Syrian government... So this is just a woman who's never been to Damascus it's like you know what here you tell the story and you're right this is the voice of the elites

49:34 This is the message I have gotten to tell you, the slaves. So you do not think that America has to go into Syria because they don't care there's no economic benefit to that so we just need it to go away this problem and let me say something about chemical weapons i have a new tact i'm not going to say that you know i think they're great But I would like to point out in the United Kingdom, the Home Office this is from The Telegraph. Is testing a new form of chemical gun which could be used to control rioters and can be fired from more than 100 feet distance test of the discriminating irritant projectile It's called a tear gas gun Discriminate Irritant Projectile What does that even mean?

50:22 A form of, well I'm glad you asked. A form of gun that will fire an irritant substance like CS gas or pepper spray Yeah? Is it like a flamethrower shoots out a big spray like the squirt gun every kid wants? I hope so! But it's like thats a chemical weapon It is the definition...it is a weapon that shoots a chemical It is a chemical weapon yet oh there's a red line over there in Syria But the poor slaves of the United Kingdom are gonna get the... ...discriminant irritating projectile up their booty. Hey slave! Stop or I'll shoot a discriminating irritated projectile at you Would you like a fun fact while we're at it? You know, I am Mr Fun Fact Where does the name Taser come from? Uh-huh I thought i knew that It is an acronym Yeah, would think so And the guy who invented this named it after

51:30 one of his favorite science fiction characters, Thomas A. Swift and the acronym stands for Thomas A. Swift Electronic Rifle Taser And people who know me know that I have read all the Tom Swift books I'm finding this hard to believe. No, well... I'm looking at the Wikipedia page now trying to find this. John's like oh wait a minute! It's not explained down here let me try this you don't you know sir why do you not like my factoid it just one of those things that i think was it sounds like it was reverse engineered that's the reason i did you didn't you don't like my uh

52:17 That's the reason. Remember, you can't say fact without act! This is my new one... What a great slogan! We are so good at this why do they do these 99 things and... Ah, this is stupid Anyway that is the world in a nutshell ladies and gentlemen that what going on Meanwhile let me just look over CNN Manhunt What are they after now? I don't know. Men! They just want men! Want to find some men Let's thank our... So we had this idiot, uh... Let's thank our two or three producers Oh yeah let's- We came in a little- You know these Sundays you know makes you wonder No no wait a minute First of all WE'RE idiots It is show 512 The date is 512 Can we be any denser?! How dumb are we? I dunno we should maybe look at- Don't we have a database of these numbers and what they mean Yeah well

53:19 No. Show 512 on 512 is ludicrous that we miss that. And it's Mothers Day! So let's go with this, show 512 on 512 on Mothers Day and come up short. Yeah with not a single 512 in the bunch Okay good work everybody but you gotta wonder You really do have to wonder Do you know how much scrambling there is between Thursday and Sunday show? It's way too much. I mean wouldn't it make more sense? And I'm just waxing poetic here, but in the Sunday show they keep coming up short we just do a longer Thursday show and people can break it up themselves and Do it that way you just do once a week and I think there would be two problems with that. I mean this is a good pitch but two problems I have as one

54:14 The news cycle over that long a period, especially with the number of things that break on Friday. Yeah it's true. There are all kinds of...especially in todays news world A lot of bad shit happens on Friday so it can get glossed over over the weekend You're right you're right because like the Carney thing I will say this was Austin Fashion Week and of course the show was very handy for me I really can't go to the final show because you know it's like Saturday night and you know. Clips, clips. Clips! I gotta record clips you know i don't want to be scrambling

54:55 It's a great excuse. It's almost like being married, you're getting married to the show and when most married people do this use your spouse as the excuse for not doing something that everybody thinks you should do. Come on! You gotta come out with us we're gonna go bowling. My wife wants me to do this. I gotta pick her up from there. Now of course it was in town and i would have gone but I don't have $175 for a ticket. I'm just not gonna do that. Aren't these shows for buyers who are going to go buy the lines? Oh, you're presuming... This is Austin dude! It's like money talks here. No no no

55:41 Mickey was in, because she's a photographer and everything so she didn't have to pay. But if I wanted to go in and I wanted a seat... And it was more maybe like $250 or something? Is it for a benefit? Yeah the guy who organizes it said okay thanks no It's just, uh... But anyway. So yes I use it as an excuse but it is on Saturdays true and you know I start in the afternoon and we're always... I'm not complaining anyway let's thank our producers What are you going to be doing at a fashion show? You'd look so gay! It would be ridiculous Well um And your not gonna date any of these women

56:30 Oh, now you're just being mean. No I'm just saying! I've given you a practical reason for not wanting to go. You're just being mean now... Okay, I am being mean. It's fun! Sorry, sorry in every which way the gay reference is inappropriate and I apologize that to our 40 gay listeners That's all? Actually we have a lot. I suck really gotta work on that No, it's not about the gay thing. You can say whatever you want no It's like yeah But I this is kind of the dream you know The dream is you go to the fashion show with your wife and then you know there's gonna get laid There's me just hot models are gonna come back with us we're gonna have a big orgy that That's not gonna happen Is called an hallucination I had a real dream last night And I woke up from this put this in the red book just for just for yucks

57:25 I... and it was vivid, okay? It was vivid because we've played a couple of clips of him recently. I've been watching video of him Are you ready for this? Joe Biden was president Exactly! And he sucked He was, I mean it was like a takeover and he was off his rocker and he was just like insane. Well there's a lot of people who believe there is tons of scandal underlying this administration that it's just waiting to emerge we've got like you know three years to wait for it to happen in then and Obama would just walk from the position It's funny you say that let me just go back to his Hail Everybody speech

58:14 Now this is very interesting that you bring this up John, hold on a sec. I'm just... oh it's not that one it's the Hail Everybody, hold on let me get this Wow! You just made me think of something. You know how sometimes we actually have this a lot where your recording a clip and then you don't hear about it or maybe Yeah, but you hear the second time. You just said something that triggered let me here in a little second Hi everybody okay? Hile everybody now Let's listen back at the end here And if you're one of the millions of Americans who could take advantage of that you should ask your representative Congress Why they won't act on it for our economy and our housing market are poised for progress But we could do so much more if we work together more good jobs greater security for middle-class families A sense that your hard work is rewarded

59:04 That's what I'm fighting for. And that's what i'm going to keep on fighting for as long as I hold this office." Uh-huh, What does that mean? As long as I hold this office... Yeah well it's a vagary. It could mean a lot of things. Who knows? Maybe there is no chance of getting reelected so it doesn't make sense to say it for that reason We know how long it is and we know when its going to end So as long as I hold this office? Maybe he's already planning to quit. Well, he made enough references recently Yeah, he made the reference with the $100 million from Shelly Adelson. I think that was a reference. Shelly Aderall! Shelly Aderall is like we take the hundred million dollars and walk maybe still will

59:52 Maybe if Adelson hates the guy so much he just offered him the money now to quit. Is that against the law? Has a president ever quit, has a sitting president ever quit? Yeah Johnson quit! He quit?! Yeah No What happened? Nixon quit Well yeah well no no Johnson did quit he decided not to rerun...Nixon quit But Nixon was impeached wasn't he not? Wasn't Nixon impeached? He wasn't convicted He quit before the thing was he quit. He quit and then Gerald Ford became president and couldn't get re-elected because the first thing he did was pardon Nixon. And fall down the steps! So, changed things... He could have pardoned him you know? He didn't have to pardon him right away. Yeah. Whatever the case they all do that to each other. They're all committing crimes so they pardon each other. Is there any other president that has quit?

1:00:46 President that has... I don't think he's resigned presidents. Well, actually all you can do is type in resigned presidents No president that has quit You gotta say quit come on and the resigning doesn't count This is a better If the president hasn't gone-I QUIT! I quit Here what oh wiki answers? Oh, I love the book of knowledge What US Presidents Quit Being Presidents Okay That's The Question Richard Milhouse Nixon Was The Only President To Resign In parentheses quit the office. There you go there's your answer okay? Well, it's always room for two There's always another spot in history Okay Yes onward Onwards with our executive producers well We have one executive producer by virtue of the fact that he added $2 and 2 cents to a 200 dollar donation thus David Dolson in Houston Texas

1:01:48 gets the position of executive producer. This is the best we could do on this Sunday, 512 on 512 on Mother's Day. Karma from last show might be working so not gonna f it up got a cat named Kiki so Dr. Kiki its science seems appropriate your show equals awesome! Shut up already! Science! Thank you and then we have two associate executive producers hold on one second I'm gonna see if... not sure that Kent didn't send us a message. Sir Kent? Yeah, I don't think so. Let me take a quick look. Sir Kent? Uh, Kent. Just type that in and should get something. Ooh! Didn't expect that. Apparently you have a lot of friends named Kent No, apparently nobody named Kent but the thing expanded itself to it there we go alright Kent O'Rourke notification nope

1:02:48 So Kent O'Rourke, Sir Kent as a matter of fact from Frostburg Maryland $200 and then finally Kevin Mattson Calgary Alberta where all the money is 200 bucks. Thanks John and Adam here's value for value contribution No agenda episodes are the best self radicalization tutorials in the universe That's right we work very hard on that It's reputation we don't need but that's fine But will take it And thank you to our artists Thank You Thorin for the artwork on episode 511 Fine job. NoahArtGenerator.com is where you can find all of that and please consider us for the Thursday show This is short, short fact Yeah for 5-12 on 5-12 Mother's Day Not only is it Mother's Day but just by presidential proclamation I'll have you know this is no Bogutive holiday Congress by a joint resolution approved May 8th 1914

1:03:49 designated the second Sunday in May each year as Mother's Day and requested the president to call for its appropriate observance. And that was done by Senator Hallmark, I believe. Yeah but it is also Peace Officers Memorial Day and Police Week it is National Women's Health week It is National Defense Transportation day and national transportation week and yesterday was national train day John! I can't believe we missed it! All aboard trains good planes bad Very sad, very sad. What an opportunity to support the show on Train Day Mother's Day 512-512 Hello! Is this thing on? We had one person remind us of the 512 One Oh well

1:04:40 Oh well. That's alright, that's alright Hey if you enjoy CNN Fox If you enjoy Rock Center which has been cancelled by the way What? Rock Center cancelled baby! Rock center you mean the second version of The Nightly News? Yep Along with The New Normal Oh, the new normal was a dog. And Go On which I kind of liked...I never heard of it! Go on yeah was with Matthew Perry that was that was kind of good show kind of war on crazy type show and i try to catch all these things at least one episode so you say oh my god I saw that So please think of us. And of course you always have to continue handing out those CDs Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth

1:05:37 Shut up, Slade. There you go! That's right... shut up Slade Did you put the Joe Biden president in the book? Yep Cause that was to me it was like whoo It was very vivid and he and he was digging it by the way He is gonna run You think he is Oh yeah The egomania- he ran before He's got a taste of the good life He's an egomaniac He thinks everyone loves him And he'll run He thinks the chicks dig him, that's for sure. Yeah... he got that look, that smirk of a douchebag Hey baby! Hey ladies! Don't you love me? Like in a joke, yeah. Hey why don't you come by the Oval Office I'll see if we can fit a square peg in a round hole baby Just imagine him saying that too. The Sandy Hook School is being demolished

1:06:38 I know, can you make it any funnier? So they had a big meeting. John that's a great laugh! That ladies and gentlemen is when John is truly entertained Now what tickles you when I say this It's just like the icing on the cake for the whole thing. And so what are we going to do now? Let's tear down this school, they can't find a bullet and they can't do anything! Where is the blood?! The place was pretty secure too because it had an outside door with a camera on it you had asked to get in... Yeah that was new! That was a new school why were they destroying it!?

1:07:17 Oh, the memories. It's the memories! Well yes it's the memories. They didn't tear down that crazy Columbine But it gets better they're going to rebuild a new school on top of it Yeah and its gonna be called Sandy Hook 2 If you want to... if there are real memory issues then go somewhere else but no they just said oh we'll just tear this one down and anything else that might be inconvenient And there was a beginning of the last persons of interest, which is one of my favorite TV dramas about everybody being spied on. Yeah yeah and at the beginning of this show it says caution some viewers because no because of recent events some viewers may be disturbed by images in this show and they only really image is just that somebody getting shot here there's nothing else not like shooting kids or anything

1:08:16 There's a lot of very, there are actually a couple funny gunfights including one where it was just essentially the protagonist. There is a wedding with the guy holding a gun aimed at the bride saying you're going to be the only one for me and he drives up in a Ferrari shoots the guy in the back and takes off I mean that was one of the funniest things they've done on this show You'd have to be a viewer The chat room has some good ideas actually It should be called No Agenda School For The Deaf Dumb And Blind God you guys are horrible But there's a, here is the report that blew me away. Do you remember? Well I'm not going to say it see if you remember one of our older clips someone made a reference to this and you caught it and then this report comes out and this of course we've been talking about drills at schools

1:09:06 Of course we had that drill in I think it was Cleveland where the cops like you know no one even knew they hadn't even told the teachers what was gonna happen and you know cops are shooting blanks around and scaring everybody. And so they're doing all these drills continuously because we have nothing better to do, and of course this is the number one threat. Oh will somebody please think of the children? But who is the threat? Recent tragic events have made training a lot more important for local police and fire. Today, as part of a training exercise two shooters went on a simulated rampage at the Washington State Fairgrounds in Puyallup They pretended to be angry parents at school The idea was to test the abilities of police and firefighters To respond to a situation that was right out of the news headlines Now... Angry parents! Right out of the news headlines?!

1:09:58 Did I miss something? I haven't seen the angry parent thing. Let me ask, see I think that this is totally...I think this is bogus completely because there's no way that somebody's going to fake being an angry parent and do anything with it because they can get shot! We've been dealing with this cross-country for years. We've been dealing with it for years Angry parents, it's the number one problem. H1 unfortunately we learn new things that we need to train for and develop new skills for Pretty intense stuff One of the newer tactics is to provide police cover for fire and rescue teams so they can get closer to victims Do you remember I couldn't find it offhand The victims?

1:10:54 Oh yeah. So the angry parent's gonna come into a school and shoot the place up, is that what they're saying? Yes. Okay But do you remember that one woman she was talking about how she was at Sandy Hook and she said first I thought it might be an angry parent And then she corrected herself Right Has this ever happened? Prelude, prelude. We're resetting for something else to happen so we can go in that direction because apparently this other direction caused too much skepticism also created a horrible kind of morose because the kids were involved and it was at the hands of a maniac

1:11:30 We need angry parents, so they're more normal. Yes I think this is much better because there's no better way to scare children Than to make them think that their parents might actually shoot them That's better! That's better than what... I think this is much much better. I mean we could... Yeah the scenario.. They keep it... You know don't finally refine a perfect scenario This may take years No, I do not know this could be coming sooner than you think Okay, we're putting in the book. Yeah hold on Adam's gonna read his email I just got-I just want to do two here since we're talking about it

1:12:18 Because I have we have asked parents kids if you're doing some kind of training in school let us know particularly if your teachers tell you or your teacher telling your kids not to tell the parents about it and I Have two here one is from a producer Kevin Adam, and John. I graduated high school two years ago I love hearing don't you love hearing that? We got young people listen to this show Okay When I was in school, we'd have lockdown drills once a semester. The principal would come on the intercom and tell us we were having a lockdown drill. We'd have to turn off the lights, lock the doors put up blackout curtains and hide under our desks then people would walk through the hallways and shake the doorknobs and try to get in

1:13:11 They never, however told us not to tell our parents about this. Once a year we'd have a bomb drill! Everyone would have to go out onto the football field once there We'd be divided up alphabetically and have to check in with the teachers once we were checked in it would be given a big orange sticker Which would be put on the left side of our chest around where the heart is. After that we'd go sit on the bleachers until the drill was over. Seems I never considered someone might put a bomb under the bleachers and kill us all." Forget that, how about this big orange... Why didn't they do a yellow star? That would have been funnier! Put a big yellow star on your chest. I never had that when i was a kid We had Captain Dan The Traffic Guy land on the football field once That was like the only time school would go out

1:13:54 And then this is again bringing us back to the 50s are trying to Intimidate children in the country so they're all cowering in fear and they want government to protect them Yes, and then this one from producer Christopher. I was concerned Oh hold on a second did I lose something here? Hold on a second oh crap This was such a good note and somehow I lost some of it in my notes hold on a second Play a little ditty while I look for this John Let's see what do we have here Just play a little ditty. I'll find it. I'll play-I'll play a lament. In the morning, sir! I'm a monthly donor and am just listening to the latest episode of... A Little Soccer.

1:14:43 A little softer. In the morning, sir! I'm a monthly donor and am just listening to the latest episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe You asked for dads to email in and mention their stories so here is ours. It's from Christopher. A few months ago... My 7 year old daughter is a second grader in the largest school district in New Jersey that being Manalapan A few months ago when you broached this subject, I went ahead and asked her if they had any kinds of drills in school. She replied nothing recent but that they had a safety drill a few weeks ago So asked to let me know when they have another one See already interesting the kid didn't tell her dad Alright like that would be kind of hey we had an interesting thing happen today at school

1:15:22 So I asked her to let me know when they had another one. Several weeks later she came home and told me they had another one, I asked what it entailed To this she explained that they all have to run behind the teacher And get locked in a secret room until the All Clear is sounded Cops are always part of the drill She then tells me if they don't comply with the administration The administration will know because of the secret window They have into each of the classrooms I made an offhanded comment about it, probably being a camera and that i didn't think it was right for them to scare the kids like that. I was concerned when she relayed the party line to me for a defense! Bad people are out there and want to hurt us There's nothing wrong with practicing to hide from those people Needless to say, I have a lot of work ahead of me What's worse is weeks later some moron kid in middle school tweeted a lay mass threat And the whole district was placed on lockdown

1:16:19 When I went to pick up my daughter from aftercare, the talk was like someone was shot. The horror that had taken place was just somewhat shameless not to mention the phony bomb threat called in the day after the false flag in Boston." Hope you find this interesting enough to read it on the air Yeah! I think that's very interesting Secret window Alright children get in the secret room being watched at all times. You don't do it the secret window will know We see thing is that Twitter the kid who did the tweet is I think part of a bigger trend which I think is that is kind of the the I guess the The rebellion against this which yeah, I think somewhat sensible but they reminds me what's going on? I have to clip play this the swatting clip and I want to talk about that for a second Okay

1:17:03 Good morning everybody. Hollywood, not the only place being victimized by celebrity swatters It is now being reported that cops swarmed Anderson Cooper's house in the Hamptons last month after pranksters said there was a shooting there Cooper was not home at the time and this is not and this is the first swat we've heard of In our area but more than dozen celebs have been swatted in LA in recent months including Justin Timberlake And Selena Gomez it costs money it takes resources from where they need to be please And Brawlfoster got swatted. They forgot to put him in the list. Did he? Yeah! Well, this is like... there's two things about this one it's this is the rebellion and this is kids doing this obviously some jokers It's what you know it's it's it's the new version of prank phone call

1:17:48 Yeah, but the thing is so if there's a shoot any reported shooting now Are you telling me that it always brings out SWAT special weapons and tactics? Yes Aren't these for like you know major kidnappings or bank hostage situations Or something like that not a you know one guy fires a gun. I'm Kenji just in well These are celebrities John Yeah, I guess there's a better chance of the Celebrities actually getting shot dead by one of these SWAT guys. So that might be a plus. But the Celebrities are important! We need to protect Anderson Cooper. Swat... This is going to get worse before it gets better. Yeah, I encourage this. This is kind of anarchy that is actually very good. I'm all for it

1:18:44 We don't have this problem here in Austin. I do not- let me see if there's been a swatting in Austin before I get all sort of, that's not true man! Austin sucks dude! Austin ain't know that great, he aint know that bitch! Me, me, me, me! Austin swatting... Let me see. You know it's gonna happen, lemme see Ryan Seacrest was swatted That's kind of cool But he wasn't an Austin Uh.. Austin swatting a SpongeBob pinata Thats about the extent Of the swatting we get in Austin Selena Gomez. No, so not according to the quick book of knowledge Oh wait. Oh wait here's one July 3rd Austin Texas hold on Democratic operative and self-proclaimed hacker Neil Rauh Rauhauser good name has accused Brandon Darby of swatting Darby is a political activist and former FBI operative So what happened here?

1:19:47 Doesn't say so no, no. No doesn't look like this happened in Austin Yeah Well you know why it will? Know we don't have this problem here how many times I tell you because everyone's armed yeah It's not a problem all we had Mickey's Brother here and his and his wife for a couple days there on the way to the airport And it's always fun You know with especially with Dutch people when you kind of get into the gun thing And it's interesting how the European psyche has been already programmed by the news. Oh yeah, well you know but you guys got a lot more crazies here! Oh yeah that's it... That's right. No one crazy in Europe no one crazy in Norway or oh gee Holland when they guy shot up the shopping center and no one crazy there of course the Dutch also don't know that all their banks have been nationalized

1:20:50 What? Really, what? What?! He didn't know? No he did. He knew! He actually turned me on to something very cool... I was talking about Kickstarter and he hadn't heard of Kickstarter but this is really cool lamp have you seen this John the LED lamp That you can control with your smartphone, you can make it any color you want. It was a Kickstarter project they wanted 100 grand and raised 1.3 million. And he's from Holland and he goes, I know Philips has had that for years! You could buy it in the Apple App...in the Apple Store? What?! But what he turned me on to is this thing called LiFi. Have you heard of this? LiFi? No. So LiFI

1:21:38 There's a whole consortium, I've been googling on this and it is like wow! This is totally an atom project. So you have LED lighting and you can have it anywhere. You can have it on the street or in your home. But because it's LED, you can turn it on and off in very fast succession. So you don't even notice that flickering but with your smartphone, your smartphone camera can detect the flickering and can receive the messages and it can receive a communication from the LED flickering of lighting

1:22:17 And it's this is reminiscent of remember that that Microsoft wristwatch Yeah, how you would program? It was a time at ERT and that you wasn't a time I hold the wrist watch up. Yeah Yeah, uh-huh and then it would flash at them did the thing and it would load it with the data right so now So the idea is and it's kind of cool because it's there's no intercepting of it You know it's like if you intercepted then the person doesn't receive it because you're blocking the light So you can hold your phone in your hand, the front-facing camera receives the flickering light and it can be micro. It could be like a square foot that this would mean that you can get a certain message working walk three feet further and you get a different message

1:23:01 Now I'm seeing the courses like wow, Morse code. I am already all over the map with this thing. Apparently Fraunhofer has already gotten up to 3 gigabits per second communication using this trick. Yeah it's light so its balance is huge. The problem is seems to me and I understand what they are trying to do And of course, they'll have the whole neighborhood flashing like that or just have it in any place other than where it's supposed to go. It may cause epilepsy. Yes! Some guy walk right into a front of a bus and an epileptic fits. Yeah yeah...and what's your problem? Yeah that's my problem. But I don't know just like I like these kinds of things

1:23:42 There's something about the alternative forms of communication that doesn't include some central entity that is going to protect our freedoms, it turns me on. Yeah well good luck with that thinking Well, thank you. And this is just shameless, shameless what they have done. I guess the Armed Forces Pentagon or Department of Defense paid for the movie. Complete tie-in... This was a... Oh let me thank him before he gets all pissed off about it What's your blogger guy name from Dvorak.org slash NA? Gasparini Yes, Gasparini Sergio

1:24:39 Thank you Sergio, you rock! Okay. He found this and sent it to us before the movie came out This is the commercial that plays in the theater before you see the movie Man of Steel And it's intercut between... well you'll hear what it is ...and the movie They are in your community Perhaps in this very theater Seemingly ordinary people Who know they uniform may wear So that was clearly mixed for the cinema

1:25:59 Man of Steel, Soldier of Steel. Yeah but you know but soldiersteel.com the citizen soldiers of the National Guard! We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We gotta have a civilian national security force thats just as powerful just as strong just as well funded That sounds like the same word to me. Civilian Soldiers steel I'm sorry of steel yeah soldiers of steel it's a little bit of propaganda haven't seen the movie but you think there could be anything there that's a little skew and lots oh hey i got a couple of interesting clips well that's nice because

1:26:52 So you know, you always like to begin people who get the listen to the pre-roll or the pre rolls up rewards to Prelude to this stream this priest dream of the stream when they were the fat lady sings the Valkyries tune yes from Dick Wagner yeah You say Sanco de Mayo which is what we just had recently had a Sanko de Mayo. Yeah Which is what she's singing by the way? She's singing Cinco De Mayo and and it's assumed that everyone that listens to the show either knows the Sangha or whatever there is a show called Eggheads or Brainiacs on the BBC

1:27:35 they have these these geniuses on one side and then people challenging them and generally speaking if you ever with anyone who visits the UK much years ago this is nice it's true anymore I think it's kind of interesting but years ago you remember like in this 80s or he watched the television and there did have these game shows and they'd be asking me strange questions like in 1786 which Prince married which Belgian monarch And these guys would answer the question and they'd have these really kind of... Now, it's been... The public has been dumbed down so much. That was Prince Leonard of Belgium? So here was the Sanco de Mayo and somebody asked a question Oh God! What is Sanco De Mayo? What is Sanco De Mayo which you think in England they might have a clue

1:28:26 The Cinco de Mayo is a holiday celebrating an 1862 military victory over the French in which country? Is it Portugal, Mexico or Spain? Cinco de Mayo is a holiday celebrating an 1862 military victory over the French. In which country? Well, Cinco de Mayo... Those guys could totally take over this show.

1:29:11 Sounds like you and I is like, I don't know. What do you think Spain Portugal? Maybe Greece? I mean are you sure this by the way? They've also made just a three-part answer Listen again It's not my chase of Spanish into Portugal. I don't know Good to my own I'll be staying sink go it's something that might sound Spanish so it could be Spain or Mexico or Portuguese It's a possibility. Well, we don't know is it? We need this music when we do that by the way. When we're discussing something... Yeah, we need some background music because everything's got background music now I'm watching these shows that you don't have to run anymore of that. No! I want to hear The Inn! Now you've got me hooked hello You'll probably guess and we're gonna have a complete guess at Mexico What a change in mind that was Spain Portugal Portugal Spain Mexico wasn't on the list then suddenly Chad says let's go wild

1:30:19 Get the right on Wow wow that was just really I remember from in this 80s when they seemed intelligent No, by the way the whole show is like this. They don't know anything It's amazing how what and I wonder maybe this will be there let me see That's pretty good, right? Yeah. I know keep playing we will talk over there what you think Mexico or Spain? No You know and in Portuguese is not like Spanish only backwards a little bit like it but it sounds different when they speak it

1:31:00 Although it has a certain ring to it, but I don't think Sanco is much. No, it could also be Guam... I mean, I haven't really... Guam! Yes, yes. I'm guessing Guam. I know it's not on the list but that may be a trick question Is Sanco, is that really Spanish or is that a dialect of French? What do you think? See, I think their music builds too much so we've got to stay with that The beginning of the sequence. This one? And loop it, you gotta loop the beginning of the sequence. Someone will do that for us! Yeah this right here yeah, the beginning part It's the weakest link is what we need That's pretty good We just need that part That's good I like that piece

1:31:38 Yeah, I think this would improve the show. Donations are up! That's right All these news shows with very rare exception they're playing music underneath They got all kinds of effects and stuff It's a voiceover Yeah Now we're not... We're not shooting stuff boom-boom You have to sweeten up a few more of these clips from now on We're not doing it right that's obvious Play the love clip just out of the blue Okay Love it's the most powerful thing on the planet. I totally agree

1:32:16 There you go. It was Mother's Day today and we got no love! We seriously, god... Not only did we get no love, but we don't even have moms anymore! How sad are WE? Yeah what happened- I thought you meant we don't have moms listening No, we don't have moms Our mom's, well we have them but they're floating around, y'know laughing Well they're apparently not helping us get any donations They're like HAHAH They're sitting up there on a cloud Those boys need to get work I told him he should stay in college. What was the point of this podcast nonsense? What was your mom's name? Phyllis. Phyllis and Valerie! Val, yes Phil... Val and Phil. And Phil is like, I remember when the steam engine first came around

1:33:13 So I'm listening to Australian TV and they're having a slight depression. I guess the whole world is but nobody wants to talk about it Oh no, why do that? And so their solution is this more women in the workplace clip Hold on...I don't have that. Oh yes I do, I am sorry Set up or are we good to go I'll do the after setup. More women to go into the workforce, if you look at the Grattan research and the research of others, the two most important productivity improvements we can implement as a government if we get that privilege is to get more seniors to stay in the workforce and they get more women to go into or stay in the workforce. Okay well hold on all right John

1:34:00 This is ludicrous. You know, in other words don't let any of these kids get work ever Keep everybody in the workplace and have it work them to death work the women to death work The old folks to death and this is gonna be a great productivity deal I just wait Wait you gotta play the music when I'm doing the beds. This is where you talk Okay Sorry, it's not Australians are crazy So more mom more women in the workplace And more seniors I've seen a lot of seniors now at McDonald's. And they're not just eating meat? Would you like fries with that?! Well, they got a good meal plan. That's the little pet peeve of mine. Let me just say something about that because in America we've always had seniors and restaurants and certainly diners... Walmart Fast food well I can't go to Walmart

1:35:00 But part of that, I've always felt was also because seniors want to stay relevant and be active. And I used to talk to old folk And they'd be like, yeah. It's like I'm on fixed income and this is extra but... I like being around young people who are also in the store and being around people and interacting with people and helping people In fact the old people in the store Yeah okay may take maybe a little slower But they aren't gonna actually help you! I find They care! Yeah as opposed to the kids No they don't give a crap Although not at Home Depot

1:35:45 Wow, whatever program they got at Home Depot. I'm all for it. I think it's just that store because that's not everybody's experiment no experience No It is Home Depot. I'm saying this exactly what I'm saying home depot Is doing something with their with their young employees that I'm all for I think it's fantastic Don't I'm nuts and like I'm saying I'll say it again We don't see that in our home depots hmm at all know mmm-hmm Well, our Home Depots rock. Okay well that's good for now. I ran into a weird anecdote and i want to ask you about this they had Diane Sauer Oh drunk? No no not drunk. I haven't seen her drunk in awhile

1:36:33 She was interviewing Foxy Knoxie, that woman who was the murderess in Italy. I really don't know the story at all but... You don't need to know this story. Thank goodness! But she's there discussing something and then she brings up a point at the end of this little back-and-forth which is very short but right the end she brings up something and i'm gonna ask you it's kind of like asking if you've ever heard of this or if you even do it? The idea that was introduced was that there was at the very least some estrangement there and over bathroom hygiene, over maybe it's cultural difference but the openness of condoms. The openness

1:37:20 the vibrator hold on I'm just gonna stop and enjoy that for a moment Diane Sawyer saying the openness of the vibrator Oh Diane you dirty dirty bitch did i just hear a bird no she was objecting to these things So it was hurtful to you that annoyed you actually so this is one of the more strange things that happened Was that no one ever confronted me? No, one about the things that I kept in the bathroom or What like what friends. I had but that had that was never discussed while we were living together um The one time that she ever confronted me about something was

1:38:13 She was very embarrassed and nice about it. And I was very embarrassed and like awkwardly laughing about it afterwards, and that was when discussing that after you flush the toilet you have to use the brush which is not something that I was used too. That was fairly early on this is not something happened afterwards and he was fine we didn't have an estrangement and we didn't argue about anything. This is very good interview I-I... You thought so because of the vibrator joke. There's a whole bunch of stuff in here, I'm liking

1:38:49 Well, so here's the question. Now I've never heard of this but i can imagine it as a cultural thing you take a crap or pee for that matter and flush the toilet and bring the brush out if there is any residual anything scratch away at it yeah or if there's not I mean I'm assuming that this woman probably ate too much shellfish and was a mess in their but what whatever the case Let me just write that down. Avoid shellfish when having sleepovers. So apparently, so this was the house requirement and now is that it? Is that you ever done that is that anything you've ever heard of culture out of Europe does willow do it in Italy isn't some Italian thing I've never heard of this kind of hyper toilet cleaning yes and every time you take a crap you go use you clean the toilet Yes

1:39:41 Huh. Yes, we have a brush next to every toilet? No we have a brush next the toilet but... We don't find it necessary What do you do? Do you rub it over your head? No! You clean the toilets once in awhile when it needs it John okay hold on hold on a second So you're telling me, now you basically live alone so... No I got a bunch of people here and nobody does this. What do you mean a bunch of people? Wait so you all just... I've got Jaycees here my daughter's down here now Alright alright alright I got it! You take a massive crap from your shellfish dinner that you cooked It is all like we call them remspore so there are tire skid marks

1:40:21 all over the toilet bowl and you and so you flush, you go like huh good work! And then you leave? What kind of cheap ass toilets do you use? And then you leave? A good piece of porcelain from France that doesn't stick to it. Ah ah oh hold on a second this is very important this is something you may not know the toilets in a lot, well the Netherlands for sure but for many many years in most of Europe had a shelf on it. You would actually poop on a shelf I've studied this and that was so... The poop-on-the-shelf toilets were only in Germany and Holland as far as I know there weren't in France ever

1:41:03 Okay, so French toilets by the way you have French toilets in this house. Have an amazing thing just it's like a Explosion when you hit the flush button it's a button boom Boom it blows off everything Can you give me a brand name? Well, Porsche was one of them but they got bought by Kohler I think and there's a couple brands that they don't get over here. But Porsche is the French toilet of choice So now...I personally am a fan of the Flushmate 2000 Are you familiar with this device? Is it the one that washes your butt? No! Oh man, I had one of those toilets in Amsterdam It would shoot warm water up into your butt He preheated and then

1:41:49 It would blow dry. Oh, jeez! Yes so this is the toilet I had so first of all i had a urinal this is when I had money sound effect...I had a urinal was there a sink in the bathroom? yes then why did you need a little urinal for well no I had a separate uh two bathrooms one with the sink and a urinal and then one joke yeah I know haha So this toilet you would sit on it and the minute you sat on the seat immediately There was a, uh... it was sucking air down. So any odors would immediately be taken away. Then you do your business and you had then- I like the sound effect! It was very subtle it was very nice because women would sit on it for the first time go ooh they have to warn him so when you sit down don't be afraid cuz he's gonna have this

1:42:39 Apparently it's a little different sensation. And then when you were done, you hit the button and then seriously there was a mechanical thing would come out of the toilet... A thing? Yeah like a tube, a copper tube would come out rotate up and then would spray a mist yeah but a good one like followed by And as long as you were sitting there it would just dry your butt and then you'd get up and you be done. Now back to... You didn't even have to wipe? It was that good? Oh yeah, no well the wiping is really bad I mean in most cultures don't wipe with the crazy paper crap that we do they use water....you don't know how to use the shells? Shells?! Very obscure joke people who have seen Total Recall will understand

1:43:41 But it remains, if you take a dump and there's residue... You don't clean it. You're just like whatever let the kids look at it when the next person goes to pee. He can try and pee it off Is that how you think? is that how your householders run because not ours man Don't come into my house and poop in my toilet and not use the brush I will call your ass out noted. But is that, well you asked me! Yeah I did and got a very good answer but now we need to separate the two types of people that listen to this show the ones who follow the rigidity of the Italians as Amanda Knox pointed out and the Dutch who are more lazy yeah no not lazy just disgusting

1:44:38 No, that's rude. It's just rude! It's just rude! Okay if you say so I've been to plenty of bathrooms that don't have a brush what are you supposed to do then? Lick it off?! No... If you ask for the brush? Hey where is your brush in here!? Yeah or take a piece of toilet paper and do it for them. I don't think so I'm just saying. No wonder you dropped your iPhone in that can! What? No wonder what?! No wonder that you were nonplussed every time you dropped your iPhone into the can, which you've done a couple of times... Once. Oh well. Once. Oh, that was twice. No once only once it would there was I was the only person all over Europe to have one it was unfortunate but I did it but it was only once. You coulda sold that baby. I still have it somewhere

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1:51:30 Let's take a look at the peerage page on Wikipedia. There may be a substitute for this. No, but Baronet is the correct title! I know that but there may be a parallel in Russia for example. Oh, a Tsar? Can we have a Tsar of some sort? Okay, so this really sucked. Thank you very much those of you who did support the show everybody else be ashamed of yourselves all right org slash and Two birthdays today, Blake Buss says happy birthday to his dad turns 59 on the 12th and late comer Sir Andrew Gardner said oh please please if you get this in time say happy birthday to my smoking hot girlfriend Stephanie

1:52:19 Now, of course Sir Andrew Gardner is our Noah Jenner Racing Team and he's had kind of a downer day last weekend so we're happy to do that. He also by the way sent a picture of his girlfriend Stephanie. I concur! Happy birthday from your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe No nights no titles no nothing thank you great good work Good Work However, did you find it? Did you find what you were looking for? I'm looking. The Google's not working like it used to, I have to say. Well while you're doing... The traditional British BART. We have BART. It's a baronet test for the woman. Now entering second half of show. Well, I have something! And we haven't really had a crack on second half of show but um I got something really good that I think this is pretty awesome

1:53:13 So there's this guy who worked at the CIA for many, many years. He is dying He has I think he has emphysema and he has an operation coming. He may live but he's pretty much not it certainly not expecting to live after what he Has gone on record saying he is done a interview And you can find that on YouTube, so we have it in the show notes of course 512 dot NA show notes calm or now dot na show notes comm so you can always get the latest and He talks about Area 51, which he saw and witnessed and was given a tour of. But more importantly he talks about the president at the time who was so angry that Roswell and Area 59... Area 51 commanders would not

1:54:11 Really let it would not tell him what he had would not let anyone on base and here is our formerly anonymous really whistleblower from the CIA now talking about His experience and what the president asked him to do. Yes, they called us in went into the Oval Office and Isn't present Eisenhower was there at Nixon? And they said call the people in from MJ-12 from Area 51 and S4, but they told us that the government had no jurisdiction over what they were doing. So being a general... past general you didn't tell them to go to hell without any real good reason yeah? So he said I want you and your boss to fly out there

1:55:18 I want you to give him a personal message. He says, I want you tell them whoever is in charge tell them that they have this week coming week to get into Washington and report to me and if they don't I'm going to get the first army from Colorado and we're gonna go over, take the base over. I don't care what kind of classified material you got We're going to rip this thing apart." Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51? Yes, with the 1st Army So uh... The guy has my attention with this

1:56:05 And I'm pretty confident he's legit. I don't know if his story is true, but you know me...I am very prone to believe in this. It's a good story! So would you like to hear his little story about what he saw at Area 51? Nahh..I think we got other things. I got a couple of clips from Extra and the OMG show. Shut up here we go. You fly out, you land what happens can you describe this whole process? What you saw? Hedonists The 13 or 15 miles south of the S-4 had like different garage door openings. And in these garage door openings, they had like different saucer crafts. The very first one had the Roswell craft and it was kind of crashed up apparently every alien

1:57:05 that was in a dive except for couple. So you see the Roswell craft and what are some of the others that you see? Well, the Roswell craft was really strange because it looked like real heavy aluminum foil. We could rock next to it and you could rock... The whole thing probably weighed 150-300 pounds Could they tell what the source of power was this craft? Yeah, It was like a rivers gravitational thing of some kind. In fact, one later on I got the mathematical code for recursing gravity in a 3x5 card." What do you think? Well here we go again as soon as the anti-gravity thing comes up my antennas go off because

1:58:08 Every other guy's got this formula. I want the formula nothing, I want the index card It's on a three by five. Yeah it must be a very short formula well It's like E equals MC squared is not a big massive formula it's very simple you know what so upsetting to me? Is that we're now in our sixth year of this program And whereas you have, and if you people I encourage you go back listen to the first couple of episodes. You'll hear that John was like a New World Order bullcrap ah this is that's not to curry your crazy oh what are you talking about so you've really way come over to my side on a lot of this stuff big time nothing Oh God Oh what I can't be nuts

1:58:53 I had a car that got you know gas mileage from water and yes, you're gonna meet an alien who never showed up Come on. Yeah, but here's the thing on the aliens stuff. I'm really I can't I can't believe it anymore I mean, I just this is what there's a couple things of well The thing I didn't play in this his he was on the the blue book team So I was like okay That's already code for like project Blue Beam And he mentions in this briefly the alien autopsy, like that was what the CIA was watching. I'm like nah... Okay now this is bull crap but it's very well done. Well just imagine yourself you're a CIA guy and you're on your deathbed

1:59:42 You think well, you know I've never really played a really great gag Wait a minute. I could swap broth blitzer or Or I Know what? I'll do yeah Yeah good point good point, but I'm disappointed because I can't get excited about it anymore I mean, you know me and I'm totally into You know the idea that there's an energy that That has been withheld from us and you know I look at a lot of the work that Tesla did And think about why do they have to go burn all his books, his research? Why? It was kind of in a way There are so many questions that are unanswered. Yeah, well... I'm gonna die searching for that

2:00:38 Well they burned all that Wilhelm Reich stuff too, you know. The Oregon energy guy. Yeah, well that's because it was basically he was doing porn. I have a couple of his publications that were saved Because there was a lot of it got out. His real thing that he was concerned about, he believed that aliens had already invaded and they started in a different time frame and they started a process called desertification And desertification is the idea that you could turn the whole planet into one giant desert and get rid of all these humans, then you could do hydroponics or something. You start over again? Yeah I'm not sure. There was no reason for it but the one thing he points out and I do see this once in a while every time I see it I go oh thats interesting

2:01:28 He would go into some place that is in the middle of nowhere, dry a desert area and find like an old building or structure of some sort. And notice that especially if they're made out of stone or bricks or something he would notice this black mold or black fungus in an area where there's really nothing else living on top of these buildings, so it would be like dirt where there is no dirt. In other words you see this black, you see in a lot of photos this kind of black goo with like soot on top that's covering parts of the place where it lands and he believes that stuff whatever it is eats into to the structure and destroys and turns it into sand

2:02:23 That was his theory, I don't know what... and then it just never talked about again. But I've always kind of monitored the growth of the deserts some ways to go. Well this is interesting because this leads me into another guy dead guy Rudolf Steiner Are you familiar with the work of Rudolph Steiner? You know that name rings a bell. Biodynamic agriculture Oh, he's the biodynamic guy? Yeah. So he lives... I looked him up in the book of knowledge Rudolf Josef Lorenz Steiner February 1861 to March 1925 Austrian philosopher social reformer architect and eccentric ooh

2:03:07 No, esotericists. What's an esotericist? Can I be that? Yeah you are! When someone says what do you do? I'm an esotericist. Perfect and you can't pronounce it right every time. And you can't be an esotericist without a terrorist He gained initial recognition as a literary critic. Anyway, so he came up with idealist philosophy and theosophy But the thing that was brought to my attention was the biodynamic agriculture. Now, bio-dynamic agriculture was brought to my attention twice and yesterday it was the second time by the same guy Farmer Chris at The Austin Market. Now you know Farmer Chris is a huge fan of the show

2:04:00 and he's mainly eggs, but for the past couple months he has been selling onions. And I'm not talking just like an onion...I am talking these onions are as big as a kid's head! We've seen onions like that. I have a photo of Jay with a big giant onion on her head that's bigger than her head. Right, exactly! It's so crazy you took a picture of it? So he has these every single week and i love buying them because one onion feeds eight people. It lasts a month. It feeds eight people now this is perfect for dinner parties they'll just take an onion but he'll package them neatly with the rubber band will have a really big one in the smaller one

2:04:42 And so I said, Chris how do you... and by the way they're so good. It's such an outstanding product. It is probably a sweet onion there Yes it is You want to bite into them? I have! I've taken these onions and just eaten like an apple Yeah that's sweet onion, you can eat that So are these not good for cooking? I use them, I love them No no, they're good for cooking too The problem with sweet onion is that they don't keep very well because of so much moisture content in the onion These keep for a week Not even in the fridge, just on the counter. No problem! Yeah well a week is not very long for an onion Oh okay... Well I get new onions every week. I eat his onions... Okay go on with the story So um and I said Chris how do you this? He says oh uh biodynamic agriculture In fact i heard that very sound when he said that like biodynamic agriculture

2:05:41 And I said, well explain this to me. He says okay well this is... so you know apparently when he is planting or when he's harvesting he does it at very specific days and specific times And, you know this could... there's a lot of the moon and the stars in the universe. Yeah yeah does he have the cow head filled with weird herbs that he has to bury in the field? Did he tell you about that part? No I'll ask him on Saturday and he didn't mention it so no don't know about that There are some really weird stuff let me give you what I know about it This is a tip people always say well why not talk more about food here's a tip for everybody

2:06:22 The French and some of the Italians, but mostly the French have taken up biodynamic agriculture for their vineyards. Not all of them but like 5%, quite a few in some very famous places as a matter of fact there's a couple biodynamic places in the Napa Valley My experience is that if you go to a wine list and you're looking at wine, and you see the word biodynamic next to the wine? Get that wine. And here's my rationale I don't believe this bio-dynamic thing is that big of a deal or even if it works but these guys who choose to use bio dynamic...this is just I think coincidental

2:07:00 People who choose it's very rigid. You have to be on top of everything, there is a lot of processes you gotta do things at certain time and the moon has gotta be in certain way and you gotta this, you gotta that so your always on top essentially become like a neat freak about your property and actually putting so much work into it because you have to follow these process then you produce better product naturally So this also known as Stella Natura by the way Yeah, I think that's the Italian version. Anyway so when you see a wine generally speaking it is an outlier too It is not like mainstream overpriced wine It is something like God knows what this is You know its red That's about it

2:07:40 but it says biodynamics usually really cheap. It's cheaper than the regular wines that are not bio-dynamic, but are made by more marketing oriented companies you will always get a really good wine for the money and without fail I have done this for years I was the oh bow down try that and is always a winner so as just your that's your tip of the week So, in a way you think there's something to it. I don't know about the cows head and everything but you're kind of applying the placebo effect... Exactly! Okay that's fine

2:08:18 I will ask him about the cows head, but i know that he does go out in the middle of the night and full moon and thats when hes going to plant or harvest. And you know what? I love farmer chris and his outstanding products so whatever hes doing is good by me. But here's where he got me! He says Adam you need to look at the stellar naturae. You need to look at the at the biodynamic calendar so you will be very amazed when you because there's the the biodynamic calendar works with the apogee and The is it perigee? Yeah, perigee So the apogee is when the moon is the furthest from the earth and the perigee Is when the moon is the closest to the earth in its orbit he says go and look

2:09:03 at big events in history and compare that to the biodynamic Stellar Natura calendar. And if I look at April 15th, which was an apogee so the moon the furthest away from Earth At 322 is the exact apogee which would have been 422 in Boston You go back you look at September 11 2001 Apogee at like 8 a.m It's kind of freaky when you see that these things are happening at these certain, well at least these two events. I haven't... didn't have time to look at everything i could think of so that I do want to look at the next Apogee which will be tomorrow So we can put this to the test and see if anything happens Tomorrow the Apogee will be at 6 32 a.m., so 732 am New York Time May 13th is the next Apogee

2:10:08 So we need to track this and see if stuff's happening or not. Okay, I'm putting it in the book... ...I am sticking with the FBI apogee cycle. Well but it doesn't mean that- Which is a six week cycle which does no match the moon. The FBI guys are out of whack They're really out of whack This whole Boston thing really screwed them up It has gotten so bad now that I have a hangnail and those two kids did it. I know they did! Hey, remember the stock crash? It was the Sarneff brothers. This evening authorities in Boston say they have quote mounting evidence that those two brothers could be linked to another whore Could be linked to another whore?! Did he say whore??

2:11:01 Yes, he said whore. I'm pretty sure... Hey wait a minute! I'm pretty sure he said whore let me listen to that again. This evening authorities in Boston say they have quote mounting evidence that those two brothers could be linked to another whore A triple murder on the anniversary of September 11th ABC's Gio Benitez I love these memes triple murder on the anniversary of September 11th it couldn't get any better In fact they did 9-11 these 2 They flew the planes On The Boston Case Again tonight The chilling details come from a new look at a cold case. It was 2011 on the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks and three strong men had turned up dead in the Boston area. Investigators telling us this crime was not random, that they're looking for two assailants

2:11:46 Two assailants police never found. The bodies of Brendan Mess, Eric Weissman and Rafael Tekken had been mutilated nearly decapitated marijuana covered the bodies and $5,000 in cash found nearby. Well that sounds just like what these guys do all the time Now investigators say forensic evidence may point to the alleged Boston bombers. Cell phone records show the Tsarnaev brothers were in the area on the day of the murders. This is a reporter for ABC News in Boston, you can just hear the bogativeness dripping off it

2:12:23 like something out of an Al Qaeda training video. Of course it does this is so graphic investigative reporter Michelle McPhee covered the murders apparently the al-qaeda training manual that tells you to cut people's throats cover them in marijuana and throw cash on them this is how ridiculous has gotten they will do anything to distract you from even thinking straight about any anything that happened in Boston, anything at all. And to make it worse they're now spraying people like bugs this is not... This is um... Spraying people? There's chemtrails all over the area here's the report and this is

2:13:01 This is really sad what is happening here. Every night for nearly the past two weeks, residents have spotted a low flying aircraft doing loops over the city as Bill Shield shows us the FAA knows what's going on but the agency isn't telling It's frightening. It's more than weird, it's frightening That is what a lot of people in Quincy are feeling right now For the past 10 days or so an airplane has been buzzing around the city from dusk to dawn flying low and slow And it's not the state or local police I mean it is strange...I don't know if they're looking for somebody

2:13:38 I have no idea. Yeah, me neither. They won't tell us either." City Councilor Brian Palmucci has been inundated with calls from residents but he could get little information from the FAA other than the flights are authorized. Can we, is it a law enforcement flight? Can we tell people that?" He said no can't tell you that. And then I said well when folks call me can at least tell them its something they shouldn't worry about and its something they shouldn't be concerned with and he said I cant' tell ya that." We called the FAA and were told only that the aircraft is not a drone...its manned! AND....we have to be very careful this time even the mayor has been kept in the dark and he doesn't like

2:14:22 Here's a case where we're as frustrated as the constituent in this sense because we don't know the answer. We don't know what is going on." Obviously when the federal government wants to keep something quiet, they keep something very quiet and in this case that wouldn't even say how long these flights will continue In Quincy, I'm Bill Shields WBZ News. And by the way the aircraft is not flying when it's cloudy out only on starlit nights. Go ahead and Google Quincy or Quinn you pronounce it Quinzy but you spell it Q-U-I-N-C-Y chemtrails

2:14:59 They came trailed in Austin the other day like earlier this week. Oh my god, it was unbelievable I haven't seen that in Austin since we've lived here They're just spraying us just like it's just like a shut-up slave spray Yeah, it said yeah. Oh, I'm sorry persistent jet con trails. Yeah sure Sure. Yeah, besides that if you did a calculation on them I don't know it'd have to be a part per billion product that would... and its not drifting its just sitting up there this chemtrail over Quincy May 13th is bogative This stuff doesn't drift John It falls to the earth Why's it staying up there then? Its not falling anywhere You're looking at a picture! That's a photo Oh so you actually have a movie of it falling? Yeah in LA I took movies all the time

2:15:48 It floats down to the earth. Yeah, oh yeah okay dream on big boy um this is uh oh yeah no I'm crazy No i'm crazy sure there's no crazy I'm crazy yes exactly yeah yeah right away all right now wait I'm chemtrailed leave me be listen listen to this do you remember this interview with who did not want to be recognized, therefore he was in silhouette and incognito. Remember this? Danny the Chinaman remember this? I have to unfasten my seat belt. Okay now listen to what he says here. I have to pull the handle of the door. At the gas station Johar left a car to pay Tamerland was fiddling with the GPS

2:16:42 Danny knew this might be his last chance. How do you do that in your head? Do say one, two three I was counting out counting out 1 2 3 4 and I just do it and I did it now You remember we laughed about him saying there's a 1 2 3 4 And I got an email from Simon, Adam and John. I just listened to episode 509. I was listening to a bunch of episodes in the row... ...and had thought about Danny the Chiner guy. I found it really odd that when he was asked if he counted to three before getting out of his car... ...that he said no, he counted to four! I have a few Chinese friends and they all assure me four is an extremely unlucky Chinese number

2:17:23 I believe that's because the word is similar to the word death. I'm pretty sure that no true Chinese person would choose the number four as a starting point for their run for freedom and escape from possible death just a thought That's good Yeah, this is why we're the best podcast in the universe people think it absolutely correct people thinking about stuff And we noticed if we like Why did we didn't know it was off. It was weird it was weird yeah, and almost like they're giving us no I don't even think it Was that I was thinking the guys are phony anyway? Yeah? Really and so he's given the microphone. It's like this just Ramsey character

2:18:03 Who's on every show he can be on and so he's just hogging the mic that's where I came over with no, no No wasn't it was for Did you see if I didn't record did you see Anderson Cooper interviewing him isn't the funny oh but I do have a worse interview which is George Oh Stephan Poupalas yeah interviewing him and he's always so much like this so let's just look so this has to be part of such as you so What do we think? This is a prelude to Dr. Phil, I'm telling you. Same story Absolutely Here we go For those of you who don't know this is the neighbor who didn't do much other than call 911 It's like can you operate a phone Yes You're a hero Can you eat a hamburger Yes! You're a hero Thank-you so much for joining us this morning Boy, I know it has been a whirlwind for you since Monday night How are ya feeling

2:19:05 I'm happy, you know. He's hammered! Little Red Bull helps okay? You're drunk right?! How was that horror we gave ya? He put a red bull into the screen. Oh jeez really yep God that's key so it may be even went like this hey Can you act a little like tired and then we can throw the Red Bull out yes? It's our sponsor. You get it right Hey, maybe they'll uh they'll actually hook you up with a sponsorship if you try it Exactly and I also know that you do not like

2:19:42 The word hero, but it is true that when you answered that door and helped kick it down Can I just say something before? He said help yeah. No. I want to roll it back I just wanted to say something because we make that joke about the Red Bull I want people to know That when I did and this was a government program This was a government non-commercial program the show was called countdown which I Which I hosted for several years in the Netherlands and We took money the production company took money from The milk industry so this was set in like a bar kind of like a club grungy Club bar where people were drinking beer for sure, and you know you saw people drinking beer. It's okay

2:20:27 But then I would be sitting there with Mick Jagger, okay? I'd be interviewing Mick Jagger and then... And seriously the producer would cue me to take a drink of milk. You're kidding! No! So he would have a beer and i would have a glass of milk And I would get a cue to drink. Now, they gave me a car so i wasn't complaining They gave me a Volvo 480 ES To shut me up here have a car Okay So I just want people to know that it's really happened and that was... Yeah and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy wasn't told to do this He grabbed his active tire he held the red bull up in the Stephanopoulos says

2:21:18 Cuz the guy didn't hold he didn't say Red Bull. He just held up the can and Stephanopoulos says Red Bull Thank you so much for joining us this morning boy I know it has been a whirlwind for you since Monday night How are ya feeling? I'm happy, man You know pushing to the level as we do A little red bull helps okay understand that And i also know that you do not like The word hero, but it is true that when you answered that door and helped kick it down those young women were finally rescued After so long has that sunk in for you No this could be a while bro Speechless yeah You had never seen Amanda Barry before that moment when he went to her door no I

2:22:13 What did she say to you in those moments after you finally were able to get her out there and get her on the phone for the 911 call? She says, uh... It's more girls in that house. And I was just blown away from that statement You know what I mean? When the police got there they went up there and brought the rest of them out. And you had never seen anything of any of them before even though you knew Ariel Castro a bit

2:22:50 Not only I didn't see nothing, apparently my neighbors haven't seen anything either. This guy's on crack John! He's on crack telling you it's crack so what did no this has got to go beyond is there something funny happen or is it like this the whole time? Well there was a... he does have a funny line but it's mostly him moaning Let's listen let's listen Now I've been here year she's been right then next door to me for a year Every day since I've been known that you said me take some when you move into a new neighborhood. See, I'm from the east side Here's what's happening So this are they and I want to hear the rest of this so the they invite him because they hope What they want is they don't want this guy? This guy isn't a hole They want the guy that goes

2:23:49 That's what they want. They want the Eddie Murphy, you know Crazy black guy You know, I was eating a McDonald's hamburger! And I was thinking damn, I want a Red Bull. That's what they're trying to get the guy to do and so they jacked him up last night but they didn't Jack him right and now he is hungover and he is a dud This is a dud He does have a good line at the end that I think he probably snaps out of it I'm from Richmond Heights. I went to Brush High School Okay? I went to Orange

2:24:26 Hey, hey. Did George just say I went to orange like we're bros now? Yes! Did he just say that? Hey i'm three feet smaller than you and white and wimpy but I went to orange are we bros now? We're rivals it's cool It was good school with school with school But you didn't see anything Not one eye odor I wouldn't have been speaking to this dude. Dude, there we go! He's getting there. I give this dude his mail when he comes in my house. More Red Bull quick he is getting better. I eat hi food when he feels like barbecuing. Oh yeah now were going. When he feels like playing salsa music. Yeah. I try to you know maringa. There we go. It was gettin' exciting.

2:25:19 Would this be a whole different interview now, wouldn't it? Sure would be a whole different interview. And so you ate ribs with him and you'd dance with him Oh I love it where he's with Anderson- oh god I should have recorded that...I didn't even think about it was so dumb He's like if I had known that I'd be sitting here for triple murder right now! I'd be killing that guy! Yeah brother sure You saw him every once in awhile and there was nothing at all in his demeanor that would give you the inkling that he could do something like this? No. Isn't that scary? It is! So either I'm not stupid, or his kind are that good You've really become a phenomenon all across the country in the last 48 hours. I'm sure if seen some of some of all the craziness going out all across the web including that auto-tune on your original interview how does it feel to you right now

2:26:18 If people are happy, there is no feeling. You do what you gotta do! And you did what you had to at the right moment Charles Ramsey thanks very much. Terrible. Get him to liven up. So they didn't...you heard the autotune? Yeah I hate auto-tune Do I play this now? Oh, you can play it. I'm talking with Charles Ramsey he's a neighbor. Walk me through again what happened this afternoon. I love autotune and i think is great What's your problem with that? I love it! I think its funny This is very creative This is good work Hey would somebody please... You could play it then if you like so much Wow now I've heard of million times It not like novel Ya know I'll play for myself and dance around later after the show

2:27:19 You know, people can take you and autotune you and make a great song out of it. It's funny! I mean, I could take this episode... any Noah Gen episode. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying it's cliched, it's old, it's two years old, it's passé, I just don't get why anyone would do it. And they put the amount of work they put into this guy's thing is ridiculous. I mean, it actually IS a song. Yeah? But what's the point? Is it gotten so bad that people can waste their time on this sort of thing. Oh, I see you don't understand oh i'm sorry uh It's an app The whole idea is the people who made this auto-tune sell the app They do these auto tunes Yeah no I understand that but this song was edited to make... To run through that app it wasn't just straight up No! but that doesn't matter People go all that's cool I can do that let me get the app The whole thing is just a sell the app everything's a pitch

2:28:18 Alright, can we move on to something more serious? Because this is yeah You mean like the IRS cracking down even though this against the law and then your buddy Carney Just goes on and he tries to use a new phrase I got Carney in the iris the phrase verb what he substitutes the word inappropriate for what I believe should be the word illegal Good Friday afternoon ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here. I appreciate your patience Before I take your questions. I just wanted to note because it's been reported we that's funny We have exactly the same thing Oh would you let this go into the IRS question? Okay, I guess as many of you know have a background briefing here at the White House earlier

2:28:56 I think 14 news organizations were represented, ranging from online to broadcast TV print and the like. And we do those periodically. We hope that participants find them helpful. I will say that no one here believes that briefings like that are a substitute for this briefing which is why I'm here today to take questions on whatever issues you want to ask me about and with that i will go to The Associated Press Thanks, Jay. Two subjects starting out with the IRS issue. The IRS has flagged conservative groups with names like Patriots or Tea Parties for review and says that in some instances its workers inappropriately asked for identities of donors and it has apologized. When did the White House become aware that the IRS engaged in this?

2:29:46 In a tax collection system that relies on trust, isn't the IRS's credibility at stake here? And will the White House as called on by Senator McConnell call for an investigation. Well two things Jim I appreciate the question and we've certainly seen those reports When he says I appreciate the question I presume that was scripted that he asked this question? And you've seen their reports Yeah Does anybody really think there was no involvement here Well, well and then he blames Bush. Well listen to hear that That's what my understanding is this matter is under investigation by the IG The at the IRS the IRS as you know is an independent enforcement agency with only two political appointees the fact of the matter is what we know about this matter is a concern and we certainly find the actions taken

2:30:43 as reported, to be inappropriate and we would fully expect the investigation to be thorough and for corrections to be made in a case like this. And I believe the IRS has addressed that and has taken some action and there's an investigation ongoing but it certainly does seem to be based on what we've seen to be inappropriate action that we would want to see thoroughly investigated. Given that the President was so critical of some of these groups, both in 2010 and 2012 isn't it natural for the public to think these things are politically motivated? What assurances do you have? Well I think first of all two things need to be noted which is IRS is an independent enforcement agency

2:31:34 which I believe, as i understand it contains only two political appointees within the individual who was running the IRS at the time was actually an appointee from the previous administration. But separate from that there is no question that if this activity took place its inappropriate and there needs to be action taken in the future. Let me say something about this couple things now I'm glad you brought this up one uh... this president in particular has threatened with this before and when he threatens something he usually comes through on it i will remind you of one of my favorite clips I have two words for ya Predator drones This guy is not a joke. He says predator drone, he goes out and kills thousands of people women and children by his own kill list so I dug back into the archives and oh yeah low behold here's another joke its always funny when he says it ha ha ha

2:32:29 You're an asshole! Because you do these things. He does these things! That's a great clip. He does these things! That is the top comeback clip of the month Thank you But, he makes these jokes... HE MEANS THAT! HE MEANS IT! Well it would seem so And I have had this happen to me In The Netherlands Oh my God! I have been raped by the Dutch IRS What? I've been raped in America

2:33:33 The IRS who have guns, who came to my office with their hands on their guns looking for me because they couldn't find me for 10 years. Yeah I had left the country ever hear of Google idiots? And this is not an uncommon occurrence for presidents and people in power to use the IRS to audit people and make their lives hell! And the IRS is armed They have guns. They can tap your email... This is in the news at the same time where the IRS and FBI are saying they have legal authority to eavesdrop and tap your email because everyone's gotta be paying their fair share Meanwhile, this was kind of a funny one that was circulating so this came out in an IRS press conference with a bunch of reporters

2:34:31 And you just hear the hubris of these morons. Confirm one point, it's Tom Costello with NBC News You're saying a quarter of the 300 were associated with Tea Party or Republican issues correct? No I said that about a quarter of the cases that were selected for full development had either Tea Party or Patriot in their name Okay so just sorry thank you for the clarification but thats would be over the three hundred then we are talking 75 or so That's correct. Is that a quarter? Thank you, I'm not good at math! That's correct. She's the IRS? You're with the IRS thank you. Not good in math... Yeah, I'm not good at math. That was a classic. But notice in here it's not so much the Tea Party It's the Patriots part This is what really is pissing me off We are taking the entire concept of being a patriot and turning into something bad

2:35:37 You remember we had the last... While waving the flag, it's weird. Well and one of our producers sent me an interesting link he said you know you're now a terrorist if you're a patriot Remember the old kook who was in the double wide trailer and they like he had Molotov cocktails and like we had to arrest this guy because they put on his Facebook. Yeah, it's on our last show. On his Facebook you know well anyway so he's a member of The Black Snake Militia now do you what The Black Snake refers too? The snake on that don't tread on me flag yes that is known as the Gadsden Flag

2:36:18 The Gadsden flag is very interesting history if you you can look it up in the in the book of knowledge But as to don't tread on me flag I guarantee you if you fly this flag now, which you know historically. This is this is a huge hugely patriotic flag for so many different reasons You know and and you've probably when I grew up in the 70's I remember there was a t-shirt, and it would be the snake. It said don't tread on me. Yeah it wasn't the 70s Bicentennial. And then underneath that it said for 200 years nobody has. That was kind of like America fuck yeah! But now all these symbols

2:37:00 Including the Confederate flag, which I have to give up on that one. But now the Gadsden flag? If you say you're a patriot, you are now... A terrorist! That's what it is this is the upside down world that we live in Yeah, No, I'm 100% with ya on this one You can buy these flags by the way from all these flag vendors There's a black version The Black Gadson Flag What the heck is THAT?! I don't know The Black Gadson Flag It doesn't say anything about it I mean while... I got a, let's see if i can save that one. I did want to touch briefly on this 3D gun printing business because I've got some problems with what is happening here because this happening in my backyard you know this... Why would you print a 3d gun when you can buy one down the street? Well I don't think this is about 3d guns at all about printed guns whatsoever I think this is

2:38:04 So I have a couple of clips. Actually, we have a very good piece from C-Span which I feel really explains what...I'd like to play it in its entirety as a couple minutes, little longer than normally like to play it, like two and half minutes Then I'd like to take it to the douchebag Chuck Schumer, who is really going to tell us what's happening and what this is all about. So this I found a very good explanation, very calm, the guy calls the guy an anarchist without freaking out. Some good questions and answers. This gives you an overview of what happened recently. You may have seen this week stories concerning what is known as The Liberator. It's a plastic gun

2:38:43 comprised of about 16 pieces except for one piece of metal which is a common nail. This gun printed at home on what's known as a 3D printer. What's not true? The specs for the gun require both the nail as a firing mechanism but it also requires a metal cube. Okay, all right well that's... Anyway just saying- The point is there's metal in the gun that is important to the story This week the State Department asked the person who put this uh plans out for this gun ask them to take down those plans as they consider some of the implications there Joining us to tell us a little bit more about this, Andy Greenberg. He's with Forbes Magazine and writes on the issues of technology privacy and information security Mr. Greenberg thanks for joining us Now I'm going to say that i think greenberg is complicit in this Forbes magazine is complicit in what is going on And my main reason for saying that Is everyone just lets the state department go There not a single state department official who has even been questioned

2:39:42 Because then otherwise he would say, we asked the State Department for comment. No there's no... It's just like oh I saw the letter and i'm going to reprint the letter so there is a setup here Thanks for having me Mr Greenberg can you start by telling us more about this gun and how it came about? Right well Cody Wilson is a great... Great! Why do you say great? He's 25 years old... because it's great because I'm great I don't know. He's on a mission, he is part of the scam. For the last year he has had this goal of 3D printing an entire gun A 3d printer is a machine that can lay down fine strands of plastic into solid shapes just as easily as HP printers put ink on a page and it creates very precise objects so the idea is this is a gun that anybody can download off the internet and print out in their own homes

2:40:30 Wilson, who is a libertarian and an anarchist intends this to be a gun that essentially evades all forms of gun control. He thinks he can show that the government is irrelevant on this issue, that a 3D printable gun cannot be controlled in the same way one that has to be bought from a commercial supplier can be. So here are various parts involved with creating this gun How was it tested out? Has it had the ability to fire on a consistent basis Well, I spent some time with Cody and witnessed the first test firings of this gun that he calls a Liberator. First he fired it with a 20-foot string just for safety and then later he did fire it by hand for the first time And as far as I was able to tell him, he was able to tell in those tests Despite the fact that the barrel is plastic and that the body of the gun is plastic as well In fact, the entire thing is plastic except

2:41:21 a single nail used as the firing pin, it is capable of firing a standard handgun round without visible damage. And even if the barrel is damaged he can swap in a new barrel that can be printed and just a couple hours." Is it legal for...that he did this? Cody, as I said is a law student. He's been very careful in almost every way to make sure that what he is doing is entirely legal. In fact he would say every way. He obtained a manufacturing license to become a licensed firearms manufacturer undetectable firearms act, he put a chunk of metal into it that's entirely extraneous. It is just a way to abide by the law if you printed it at home you could take that out and have an pretty much undetectable firearm likely. The one thing that has been caught on by the State Department is the fact that essentially as if he exported this gun, this kind of new firearm

2:42:16 simply by putting on the internet. So, the Department of Defense through the State Department has demanded that he take it down because he supposedly violated export controls of weapons. Okay here's the things that are bothering me this whole story stinks now This Cody R. Wilson, I'm not trusting who this guy is you try to find anything about him where he's from There's nothing in the book of knowledge is just he's a law student. I look at the videos these are professionally shot highly stylized Very, very precisely done. Slick! It's very slick he is getting big printers for free this defense distributed it's a non-profit but it's pending because and I looked you know me I'm way into that stuff so he says there was pending in 2012 well bull crap

2:43:08 you know, where's your status? You know there is no record of this being an approved non-profit. It doesn't take that long you can already operate as a nonprofit and put out your reports." And I'm thinking hold on a second... This stinks! Oh really?! This is not a big deal? Wait wait hold on a second, I want to add one more thing to your this stinks thesis Why was this Greenberg guy who's just a writer for Forbes essentially writes about security at the firing of the first gun? Yeah, because it's like a likely screw incidents. It's a setup. Unless they're in bed together you know and one way or another no we are on I'll talk yes they're in bed together and I want to I wanted to add

2:43:55 Ah, you kind of broke my train of thought. It doesn't really matter This Cody R Wilson guy stinks this stinks I can go to Home Depot and make a gun better than what he printed It's called the Zip Gun. This is not a huge deal. They were made in the 50s by gangs. This is a red herring and now we go to Chuck Schumer who first, here he is with The Party Line so this scary it is all we have to be really afraid as well look remember the clint eastwood movie in the line of fire and john malkovich one of the great original bad guys in that movies spent months and months and months trying to create a gun out of wooden plastic so he could assassinate the president

2:44:42 Now it's not a movie anymore, it's reality. And I think society will push Congress to act no matter what the NRA does." Okay so that is there... now its set okay? So now oh thats right he might kill the president and we have plastic guns! Oh my god this was the original bad guy who did it! Now when a politician says to you particularly Chuck Schumer who I've met personally and he scared the crap out of me how evil this man is When a politician says, we're not doing this because of that. John would you agree with me? That's pretty much a lie and that's exactly why they're doing it? Of course! Very common we see it all the time

2:45:25 Technology does some very good things. These 3D printers which print sort of 3d plastic the way they'd spray ink on a piece of paper have a lot of very good uses no one wants to abolish them Yes you do! That is exactly what this is about we are on the cusp of a revolution You see it taking place everywhere, we've got maker fairs We've got kids very interested...we're on the cusp of a revolution which is going to put Big companies, big companies of who sell shiny crap to us out of business. And of course it's the gun industry is very worried about this but all industries do not want the slaves to have this power This is what scaring the crap out of them

2:46:15 And I think it's a valid concern. This is the true revolution when you combine the internet, that's why he's doing this. He is being funded, Cody Wilson, to show the world and not just the legislators, but other captains of industry. The danger that is approaching of 3D printing it has to be stopped and it will be stopped and they are going to stop this 3D printing business with everything they've got they're going to try and stop it. Well good luck with that I think there could possibly with another one these gun creations

2:47:02 Find some way because they can print a gun to license 3d printers, okay? That would be one way to do it and you'd license them And you have to pay a yearly fee and all the rest of it yep uh and that would be used to probably It would put a crimp in a lot of the homebrew ones because you know there get one for two hundred ninety nine bucks That'll print earrings. I mean don't think that's too much of a big deal. I don't know I think Let me ask you a question. That horse is long gone, I mean this is not going to go nowhere but the licensing I think is a possibility. John the horse is long gone? I disagree! They can stop sale of anything they want and there's all kinds of ways to do that. The horses...I mean it's.. I think that someone woke up and went holy crap we can't have this?! We can't have people making their own stuff

2:47:56 Do you know how much slave toys will no longer be necessary from big companies? I mean, the implications of 3D printing to be a game changer way beyond... certainly with networked. Way beyond anything that people can even fathom at the moment Why couldn't we be printing our own chips? I don't see why that would be impossible Well, at some point you could So, I mean all these things we won't need it but why not we just make our own iPhone? You come up with an idea everyone works together. Right now is...I'm already seeing it! I'm making the new version of the Podcaster The Ultimate Podcaster which is going to be a slim line you know enclosed beautifully designed box

2:48:46 And I'm, you know... Mark Smith is out there. He's in California and he's doing circuit diagrams and we'll order the printed circuit board now We could easily print that on a printer We just don't happen to have one and we're making this all by ourselves and FedEx will bring me the first prototype No one else needed no big company needed no arrogant cocksuckers needed. I'm looking at you Talos So this is what they're afraid of Well, I think they should be. Yes! I think it's a ways down the road before you can do some of the stuff that you're describing for sure but it's coming because once the technology takes hold and people are fine... You know and its the perfect device for

2:49:32 For the, you know, the razor blade model which is what everybody always strives to obtain. Exactly and how about this? Get to the razor blade model we'll all live forever. The razor blade model of course what I'm referring to for people out there is the idea that you build a device like just all the printers are done this way You give the device away and then you sell supplies forever How about a flashlight? We make our own flashlights You need it. And the other thing, by the way, the next thing coming up strong is the 3D scanners which are now just getting traction. Yeah I can scan my organ and then print a thing! And then print one that's great idea...great use! We have this technology as breakthrough

2:50:20 There you go, that's... That's all I can come up with right now! I can't come up with anything else at the moment. Let me just have Bobby Eden come over and we could have a whole cottage industry here Keep your eye on this one. Keep your eye on what's going with these 3D printers, they're gonna try to ban them. Oh keep an eye on Cody Wilson and his gang of... Yeah if anyone knows Cody Wilson you know anything about him but yeah I know you feel it. I know that there is something up with this It is beyond this bull crap gun please That's insulting You can buy lower receivers and ship them around There's just nothing new And

2:51:06 Yeah, it's a good day. Maybe a good column for me with this guy Greenberg is usually posts yeah keep an eye on that guy This is the world's first entirely 3D printed gun photos 10 wild things you can 3D print at home This is the world's first entirely 3D printed gun a second version meet Steve Israel the congressman who wants to ban? 3D printed guns ten wild things you could do with 3D printer again meet the Liberator test firing in the world's first 3D printed gun uh... three different guns blueprint is always articles need for a gun's blueprints downloaded one hundred thousand times in two days with some help from him dot com area and bring him in as part of the army to be a rising apartment demands take down a three d printed gun files

2:51:51 Mm-hmm what else three printing okay? That's it well. Maybe they'll outlaw the files I mean there's so many things look you can't argue that there isn't a huge industry about against bit torrents and mp3 s and that There isn't some arguable success of scaring people export control violations Wow yeah, I mean in It's right there in the regulation. I mean, you know the guy becomes a licensed manufacturer your license manufacturer There's the rules it's like article two rule number one You can't be distributing your crap around without without permit keep yeah He probably shouldn't have signed up for that program. He just doing software now he signed up for because he's part of some program John

2:52:38 Yeah, that's what your theory is and I'm not going to disagree with it. It's fishy! Do a book of knowledge... By the way if i was one of these 3D printers fooling around making products with a gun included? That's the last thing I would have thought of! Of course! That I had to have a gun licensing permit or manufacturing permit. I wouldn't even thought about in a million years why would I?! So you know first he was given a 3D printer then they took it away from him So here's his book of knowledge. Cody Rutledge Wilson, what kind of name is Rutledge? Born January 31st 88 is an American law student self-proclaimed crypto anarchist

2:53:21 and free market anarchist. He's the founder and director of Defense Distributed, a non-profit organization... Sorry Wikipedia! There is no record of it being a nonprofit that develops and publishes open source gun design so called wiki weapons. Oh good one they're trying everything here suitable for 3D printing Then we get Brian Dougherty described Wilson who's Brian Dougherty? Brian Doherty is a marketing guy, I think. The only guy that I know is Brian Doherty. Describe Wilson as more than just the gun guy also states Wilson probably right about how it has to end the people will have the power. Wilson's been named one of 15 most dangerous people in the world by wired magazine. No, there was another shill, wired magazine. Wilson is second year law student at University Texas Law School in Austin but thats all theres nothing about him you know they always have like a born here has a sister

2:54:15 Nothing. You know, he's you know this defense distributors right down the street from you It's in Austin yeah 3800 North Lamar why don't you go visit him? Why just see what's going on might be just a hole in the wall or just a Mail drop I mean you're right there it seems to me to be something worth checking out No, are you crazy guys got guns? I'm gonna go hanging around this is blow up Def CAD def CAD Nah, I'm calling the guy out as a shill. This doesn't seem like a smart thing to go hang out! I'm pussy like that and I'm gonna stay in here with my big microphone. I didn't say that...I just said drive by it. Oh okay. You want me to do a drive-by? Is that what you're recommending? Yeah, drive-by like regular journalists do

2:55:10 Well, no. I'm doing what regular journalists do go to Wikipedia and copy that and publish it. That's it! We're done. I'm doing my job here people. Alright... But we'll keep our eye on this. I am really thinking that this is about the 3D printers which is a revolution that is beyond anything we can imagine right now And here's this first article that he had on the webpage of all the press that they've been getting. The first article listed at the bottom by National Review, Charles Cook. Guns don't kill people! 3D printers do. There you go

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