Airplane Apocalypse

00:00 I had this javascript thing that keeps interfering with my show. You know, I wasn't gonna mention it but how about that weather? What weather? The weather we've been having.

00:43 Well, you're in Texas. I don't know what your weather's like there It's the same it's the same idea as your weather with normally this being me and it's not gloomy but it's uh, it's chilly and We've had rain the past couple of days This is the global cooling that I've been telling everybody about it's a rain stick Well, they run it out again last show Let's see if we can continue I'm really enjoying it I want to this is really nice. This is really nice. Oh Cool, you know we can sit outside without burning up. There you go a little more rain and everything is really nice and green and luscious It's perfect! But yes... Ow! Whoops I think i damaged the rain stick That could be bad

01:32 Breaking news, breaking news. Oh hold on a second... Breaking news! We go over to John C. Dvorak. John what are you learning? A dead bomber name found in terrorism database. Wow For some reason when I heard that story I envisioned myself talking to Joe Engo Really? I'm the supervisor. I say, hey Joe, the CIA says they got this guy's name in their database can we put his name in our database without anybody noticing Can you just slide that record over? Can you change the time stamp? I can make it but if anyone had a printout of the old database they would know

02:13 I love it. No one's got a printout of the old database Can you just get it in there so we can get the press release finished? Put it in the database and then we'll say, We have it in the data because I know that's what they did You don't have it...you're not using the appropriate language Lucy Napolitano she's got all the jargon down when she talks about this stuff Have you heard any of this? Oh no Was your department aware of his travels to Russia And by the way, it's Russia. The Soviet Republic of Russia if you weren't with the reason the travel in 2012 that you're referring to? Yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the United States. It pinged the system ping doesn't know how to use a computer. She didn't know anything so she says Ping. You know what makes me crazy So my wife

03:15 goes to Amsterdam and is rejected returning to the country because of, you know like some technicality in dates on an otherwise perfectly legal exit and entry into the United States. While married to an American. While married to an American citizen born and raised And these guys are like oh well here it is actually this is the continuation uh... out by the time he returned all investigations had been the matter had been closed as a division is going to launch a gone long enough which apparently is here then on investigations are close and get a little pain but she did king king in pain that is it does the technical term it's being by the way ladies and gentlemen welcome you to your family members of

04:04 Welcome to your bi-weekly path to better mental health a fuller life and exciting in fulfilling sexual relations This is the no agenda podcast. That's nice Yeah, I think I think we need to remind people the reason they are listening to this show is for their mental health Do you know that actually I called one of our producers today this in between Sunday? Hey, Curry. Curry here. What? Did I do something wrong? No! One of our producers executive producers sent me an email and he works with services in Colorado. He's a emergency services technician

04:56 He says you know he was the email I got John was like like oh my god. The guy's on the ledge I better call him quick You know it was really bummed out because you know the way his colleagues now These are you know the heroes of America? Of course Colorado yeah, you know who uh you know Do stuff on the streets of Colorado and pick up broken pieces of people and put out fires And do all kinds of stuff like this and they're all like Yeah, let's lynch that guy kill the... them stupid terrorists. Let's kill him! I ran into a lynch mob on the Twitch show Oh dude and this is it's Dude tell me about it so I had to turn it off because I was hurting for you It's crazy So right after that show

05:50 I'm looking at uh... Oh, I should mention some of the tweets that came in too. By the way people they send me a tweet like that they're blocked. They're blocked yeah of course obviously it's the last tweet you ever sent. Last tweet you ever sent. Hey, last all respect for Dvorak! We need to jingle John reads his tweets oh no! And last respect That's all? Respect. Checked out he is not even following me how much respect do i have what else attherealdvorak.com, that thereeldvorak is the Twitter thing anyway no that's it that's all I have because i was amusing cuz like once a week um... I'll go through my uh... Facebook account just to see what's going on and you know which is usually depressing mainly because there's this MTV alumni group which anyone who worked at MTV, its a closed group apparently so you can only post or read if your member of the group

06:48 And whenever I look at that group, it's like oh RIP this guy or you know Oh that director died or the camera guy died of cancer. Like I hate Facebook! It's dead book! It's to update on who is dead. Really? I mean actually posted in... Dead Facebook No no, I posted in there and said You know I hate this place, its only about who is dead. I'm turning into a Deadpool There's and there's what the audio engineer at MTV has emphysema, so I called him out. They said you're next my money's on you shithead You're gonna die great He appreciates that Now he sees my boy anyway So let me just read a couple of postings here's one and these are from people who I know personally

07:38 Anyone against the death penalty for the terrorist in Boston really needs to come to grips with reality and lay off the bleeding heart shit. This guy needs to be put to d- And then, next one... By the way, the death penalty is off the table in Massachusetts nuts whether these people realize that or not but that's another story. The media is referring to the degenerate responsible for the Boston bombings as, the suspect. Not quite accurate is it? Where exactly is this suspicion?! How about scum! Delinquent! Thug! Wretch! Miscreant!! I could go on!!! Really!? This is somebody posting this?? This is someone I know...

08:22 Both of these people. You better re-examine your friends! I can't unfriend these people because then i miss all the goodies. That's horrible, it's... It's really... It's in the American way. Actually I think lynch mobs are the American way when it comes down to it Well its our history, it's our culture. Obviously I have a million interesting clips because regardless You know, regardless of what happened or how it happened. What the crisis quote unquote is being used for is really the cool part of everything that's the only thing I mean It makes no sense to do all this investigative work Please people stop sending me

09:09 you know, links to pictures of hats and caps and backpacks and circles and arrows. Please! My wife Mimi is on board with all those things. She's always calling me out so I'm trying to cook something she gives up your car because she's in Washington right now there was a fake the bodies were all and look and there's this website they show that pictures and she's going I said who cares they say yes may or not be true or could the pictures in the website maybe phonied up for all you know the whole thing it could be don't know you don't know no you don't know so we're nowhere near the place now on CNN All Morning David you know now we've got the mom you know who and she looks just like her

09:54 You know, she's Russian. She got a Russian accent. She speaks English! She got a headscarf on just the way you'd expect from a babushka So let's just presume it's really the mom and she is all on board of this with the crisis actor tip which is fantastic! I've seen pictures... There are people in Boston who want to know why and they believe they did this They believe that You know..I saw very very interesting video last night that the marathon was something like a really big play. There is like paint instead of blood, it is made up something. Do you really believe that?

10:49 I know it's hard for you to believe, but we'll see. Now did you see this interview? Have you heard the mother any of this talk that she... No and i'm still wondering how she speaks her English is actually quite credible for someone who doesn't even live in this country yes well so i'm going to take the position that this is now being brought to the foreground and there's a lot of this you know oh conspiracy theorists are crazy they're nuts i'm going all crazy they're nuts well check this out listen This is this is so this is and you're doing meta on this. Oh, yeah I'm going above it. This is this is the meta hole oh Yeah So chat room You should be you should be logged in via a proxy server because every single one of you is a target and a suspect your well I am right and I like I am I am radicalizing you In the thought in actual thinking its radical thinking that I am propagating upon you now this is MSNBC

11:45 And listen to the turn that this conversation takes and where it leads. And of course they bring up the seed guy, but it's quite interesting to... They bring him up to what guy? Alex Jones Yeah, but... See I could refer to Glenn Beck. Well okay it could have been any, but you know he... Any of the seed guys. Glenn Beck is too mainstream you see? It's got to be crazy thinking, crazy stuff. Okay so listen to this. Your point about the internet almost- That's your point about the Internet by the way this is all about radicalization on the Internet. Every homegrown Al Qaeda inspired extremist that we've seen in the United States over the past five six years

12:27 How long has our show been on the air? I ask you. Five, six years? It's really been affected quite significantly by English-speaking extremist preachers online. The most notable one is... They call me the podfather. You know, I'm just saying. ...is Anwar Al-Awlaki but there are others throughout the world And learning how to build the bombs, kind of being attracted to this really virulent ideology which so skews Islam is relatively common. I think magazines put out by organizations like Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula a magazine known as Inspire... I think I have read that magazine John. In either way? Yes

13:10 This magazine, they're pushing this... They are pushing magazines. They are promoting magazines! I'm totally convinced that a magazine is a honeypot We have read the magazine and I've read passages to my radicalized public And might i ask you? Yes Why do not they refer to Anwar al-Awlaki as The Late Don't you think they should show some respect for the dead? As the late NYU Alilwaki once said on the internet. The late... Or they could just say, The Droned that would be okay. Droned would be good. Droned yeah alright so let's continue In other places that you can learn to make these bombs this really is a path

14:00 that many homegrown extremists have taken and unfortunately we've seen it again I would guess. Info Wars. I like the way what his name calls it, it's Iraq? Oh yeah no he's not on board with the program so now listen so there is this seed guy and she takes all of that to us. So you have this combination of radical ideology increasing religiosity. Religiosity!

14:43 Do you have, have you ever heard of this? Increasing religiosity and radicalism. Okay go on let it roll. Does religion is that a word religiosity yeah really yes okay increasing religiosity but also buying into a lot of conspiracy theories 9-11 truth or ism apparently was apart of the mix so yeah it's not just what how about moon landing sites that are put out by terrorists overseas you know terror organizations overseas its also conspiracy theorizing right here in the US so its pretty scary combination thats a scary combination! thats right, conspiracy theorizing and religiosity in the U.S. of Azoz

15:21 That's me. Truth-erisms! Truth-erisms! Truth-erisms, that means it is like a political movement It is! Truth-erism now...it's a religiosity truth-erism...religiosity political movement And here's Mad Cow with the same thing Sandy Hook shootings Now, of course those same people fomenting those crazy conspiracy theories are also trying to sell the idea that the Boston Marathon bombing did not happen. This is before the mother came out when she made these statements Or if the Boston Marathon bombing DID happen

15:58 It was done by the government. Yeah! It's an elaborate hoax to make us believe that we were attacked when really, we weren't attacked it was our government doing it to us That's right! It's all part of the way that government controls us or something Yes! To be clear I'm not talking about family members and the bombing suspects saying We believe- No because they're on their way If our family members are innocent That's a whole different thing What I am talking about is full blown American conspiracy theories that the US Government itself bombed The Boston Marathon Pick me up now I'm ready to go! Where's my striped outfit? Go get him, boys. Where is my orange suit? Knock on the door and bust it down! Where is my orange jumpsuit?! I'm telling you... Get him out of here. Mr. Adam Curry Open up the door Mrs. Curry NOW!!!

16:44 Mr. DC Volorak! Open up the door Jebediah! Now! Jebediah!! You know, the guy who produced that is so cool he actually took the effort to put my open-up-the-door skewed left channel and your open-up-the-door skewed right channel It's really cool That was fun Yeah it was really good So... Does a clock have to be such a hick? There is now it's kind of weird if you're looking for some motivation and let me just play into Rachel's idea that my religiosity is to truth orism you all So in February of this year, we saw something and we discussed it on the show. I remember a quad clearly and I'm bringing this up here there's a new department

17:39 that was actually a working group started by the president. The Working Group to Counter Online Radicalization to Violence in the United States and they released a fact sheet, countering online radicalization fact sheet and the guy who runs this by the way is kind of under the radar I'm not quite sure his name is Quinton Wickrowitz, Wick- Torowicz. Yeah and I doubt it he's written a couple of books about Islam and radicalization Quinton Q U I N T A N Wick Torowitz What kind of name is that? Well exactly Quinton Quinton Quinton so here's the fact sheet the starting point this is a starting point to tackle the threat of violent extremism use of the internets

18:43 Adopting an internet safety approach and related tools is key, but the interagency working group to counter online radicalization to violence better known as the Uyghur Kshar will be charged with considering additional efforts as appropriate. Of course protecting freedom of speech... But addressing the threat violent extremists use the Internet to recruit and radicalize Americans to commit acts of violence! FACT!!! We have seen attacks over this over the last several years in which consumption of propaganda over and communication through the internet played a role in the radicalization of the attacker. This is all we need, one guy to say I was in the Noah Jenna chat room and then I was like I gotta go let something off man The federal government will work to make communities more resilient to these messages of hate

19:38 By raising awareness and providing tools, informed and resilient communities are our nation's first and best line of defense against terrorism. I think we're actually doing a good job with that if you really look at it objectively. Yeah, if your objective... Objectively So this working group now has a real job to do because this is totally the way its web page This is totally the way it's being spun Webpage They got a webpage yeah they do There's a bunch of web pages countering violent extremism. They're all over the place. Listen to... There is one on the whitehouse.gov, there is one here on DHS. Oh I know they are all... International partnerships. This is another push so not only do we need more money because still

20:24 for some reason with all of the... More money because two boneheads dropped a crappy like a... Never mind. You mean, a weapon of mass destruction? Oh yes! I'm sorry A pot now is a weapon of mass destruction. Well i'm so glad you asked Here's the definition according to 18 USC 232A US Code Weapon of Mass Destruction Determination and Definition The term weapon of mass destruction means A. Any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title, and B. any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release dissemination or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors

21:14 So I can go down the list here, it can be a bomb, a grenade, a rock and missile of mine. Any device similar to any... Wait wait wait so hand grenade? Oh no it gets better! You're in war! No no it gets better, it gets better, it gets better It gets better If you really read this law Any cylinder any container with more than 1 quarter ounce of black gunpowder is Defined by the US law as a weapon of mass destruction Which I think is pretty much a firecracker Cherry bomb probably cherry bomb. Yeah crackers not so much because a quarter on a quarter on so it says here that

21:57 So it's any... Well actually there was no real gunpowder used as far as I can tell that was just all fireworks goop which is not really gunpowder specifically. Here says the term destructive devices means any explosive incendiary or poison gas bomb grenade rocket having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces, missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 1 quarter ounce, a mine or device similar to any other devices described in the preceding clauses. So, they've redefined weapon of mass destruction to mean a quarter ounce. Yes. Of black powder. Correct. And nobody says anything... Nobody blinks an eye at this? No! Why would you? Because the weapon of mass destruction and I can disagree if you want to always implied to me or inferred that it was a nuke.

22:54 or a chemical weapon which I... Or at least something, at least a blockbuster. Some kind of massive product that would like do mass destruction now you call blowing up the garbage can A weapon of mass destruction? Is that defined as mass destruction, the garbage can blew up. This has been defined as a... It means every kid who blows up mailboxes now in rural South Dakota will be arrested for using a weapon of mass destruction So just take the letters IED and replace them with WMD and add some LNOP and you're good to go

23:31 This is why this program is so good, because I just have to laugh about this. Because whether you think your government is plotting against you and blowing up citizens and planting bombs... ...is one thing. This is real terror! This is actual terrorizing of citizens by doing this kind of stuff by changing the rules and not telling anybody. This only shows up in the Federal Register, by the way. There's no other place this is never discussed ever is this discussed Oh, and by the way we need this is another twit the twit irksome thing for you now of course The states have it all wrong And the states have to know they got to start adhering to federal law and federal law should of course trump state law the Fireworks stuff. That's a you know this stuff is legal in New Hampshire. It's illegal in Massachusetts very common there You drive up over the new hampshire border you grab this stuff

24:28 and you bring it back. And the question is, is this where they got the totality of the gunpowder that they used for this bomb? But the different state laws making different things easier to obtain here than there are part of what this story's about. That's a part of what this story's about! Okay thank you. He's right. That's part of what the story is now about. They didn't have to obtain some sophisticated equipment. A lot of this was stuff that was relatively easy to obtain I think that's another issue that we have to look at but as you said, We have disparate state laws It's very difficult to police something when each law each state makes its own laws That's right crazy-ass states stupid States! We can be having this! How could THAT be? You can't have the State things! These things make their OWN LAWS This is no good

25:34 So, um... when you're listening to this program and we have received an email and you responded to it John a rare response that you copied me on at least someone who said no I can't listen to your show anymore. In fact let me read it Read yeah read that and read your response then I'd like to jump in say something about that My response was you know Read the email first now read the email first read the email Let me get it's in the pile of papers that I printed out You print? I love it The fact that you print out emails is just Sorry, what that's awesome. I love that you do that Yes, I have to it gets easier than fooling around on the internets And this is III didn't say once his name mentioned, but I'll just say we're just and use his first name Garrett hi guys

26:23 I stopped listening to the show a couple of months ago since i couldn't take all of the media assassination. It's all valid, of course but just like The Daily Show there was so much material and clips covering how stupid the media is that I couldn't take it anymore! Your thesis on how people feel sick when lied to by the media is probably correct I think the problem is that no agenda features and replays all these clips of douchebag news anchors lying to me on a huge, in a huge dose. I'd rather no agenda focus on actual advanced legislation which we do by the way hitting me in the mouth with clips of politicians and witnesses. We do that too. And to avoid clips of idiot news anchors altogether

27:17 Sincerely, Garrett X. Now I send a note back saying you know this is one of the reasons why can't watch the Jon Stewart show. I didn't realize until he mentioned it for more than a couple of months and I had to stop watching it because it gets to me. And the same way, just like okay... It doesn't work after awhile and you're just kind of sick of it. I told him that I think this will be the death knell of the show. This problem! Now on the other hand which I didn't go into cause they want write a long note we do try to keep it light and humorous i mean this is more it's an entertaining show that we don't do it with the dollar craziness of the msnbc people who are ringing their hands over every little thing that goes on you know do that uh... week and we have you know we try to keep a light and we try not to get people all worked up in and fretting at and i think we do a decent job but apparently not well what i what i would like to say is there's two things you can do one is um...

28:17 Don't listen and don't watch television and paint. And that by the way is my advice, my advice is to completely cut off all of this from the world cook garden paint do pottery you will live a long and healthy life! Do not listen to any of this if however you have a social life, you have family, you have kids. If you're not living in seclusion then you probably can do a combo and listen to us and we'll filter it for you so when you get one of these numbskulls that says

29:01 Kill him or whatever then you know and by the way don't respond to them forget about it in this case Responding is not them is not the way to go. The posse will turn on you and that end you will be lynched By proxy, that's true Yes seriously Don't do that but this will make so these people are very ill when they get to this level of of indoctrination. These people are ill, they really... it's sickening and I have two very specific examples actually here is a... listen to this news report

29:39 This is when Boston was like you did a good job of bringing this up on on on twit John I heard you do it and I was like, oh my god. I can't believe he's doing that And you even said that I was giving you shit for doing no agenda material on that show But they but it's their own fault and it's a great promo I know I know I'm not I'm not giving any crap for it but for the entire City of Boston to be shut down at great expense to find one Bleeding as it now appears unarmed kid was, of course crazy. Listen to the by the way I mentioned let me mention mm-hmm that in the discussion when Leo got all worked up Oh yeah They had bombs they were shooting there and said the guy in the boat

30:26 I doubt if he had a gun and he went, oh yeah it was low. There was an exchange of weaponry, you know exchange of shots And now the Washington Post shows that guy didn't have any guns at all No weapon no nothing Did you ever see this? The shots of helicopters showing that cops were pelting their poor boats They're firing in this guys boat! You know he's never going to get compensated for that Now there is a fund, the one fund Boston will pay for it We've already raised 25 million dollars Now don't worry about that guy, he's cool. But listen to the terrorizing and listen to the words the reporter uses in this little snippet of a report from the door-to-door house-to-house manhunt. A dramatic scene played out in front our cameras parents grabbing their children and running after spending the night hunkering in their houses

31:17 and then finding themselves face to face with the muzzle of a SWAT officer's rifle. How awesome is that people? Long live America! It was a little stressful seeing these guys pulling big guns, holding your daughter in your arms but... Um, they're doing the right thing. You know... Oh! Doing the right thing? Don't do it! I'm sticking a gun in my daughter's face. Now hold on now wait for it listen to the news report trying to secure the neighborhood each time the SWAT team would rescue a family Rescue a family you got rescued Shittison yeah each time they would rescue its called rescue now

31:54 When you go in and you stick a, uh... an automatic or semi-automatic rifle into your children's faces And tell them to get out! That's called a rescue. And each time they cleared out a resident, they did it with the force that reflected the uncertainty of not knowing who was a friend and who was a foe. I love it! Rescued at the end of a gun

32:38 This is crazy. Who's a friend and who's the foe? Crazy! Those guys had so much body armor on... Oh, that's funny you say that because this reminded me of a quote from our president just recently who said- what did we see on the street? What were the cops-what would it look like? They looked like the military And that deserves a vote in Congress because weapons of war have no place on our streets. Yeah, unless it's the government then it's okay He said it! Yeah, that's a great clip. That was almost the clip of the day just out of the blue because you dropped it like a bomb. Weapons of war have no place on our streets except when its the police and I guess the Fourth Amendment doesn't count. And all those armored vehicles too let's not forget those just in case Don't you have the right to say uh... No you can come into my house without a search warrant? I mean I know why he wouldn't do it because you might get over rescued

33:42 He might get arrested rescued by a bullet. Oh, he got rescued from himself with this nine millimeter Oops now there's more craziness to this I mean if you want crazy then you want to have You want to bring in the elites in the conversation? Not just the numbskulls on CNN and Jake Tapper By the way looks really uncomfortable with all those poor Jake He messed up something over there at ABC. I think he did something wrong with election night or... He did something wrong and that's why you got fired because this was not like, it is not a move-up in your career okay going from ABC network news to CNN This is not a... Not at all! This is not a move-up

34:27 And of course like a move to Siberia. Yeah, so he's you know He's but he's kind of top dog because he has the credentials But he's looking very uncomfortable with all of this He really really is So are you bringing the elites? You know to give it a little more cred like Charlie Rose Of course isn't yeah now we're on our national treasure and you bring in David Remnick, you know David Remnick is I Yeah, I do but i can't think of... He's uh..I think he is from the New Yorker. I don't know if he's an editor or... I actually may have met him. Totally seems like a guy you'd have a chardonnay with at a party You! So listen to this guy bring it all full circle. I think a domestic question that has to be asked is how did kids like that get guns? How did kids like that get guns which they didn't have in the boat?!

35:17 That's what I've always wanted to do. Where are they getting sidearms from? Where are they getting pistols from it's not to me and i don't want to politicize... What kids is he talking about? He's talking about these two kids! They're not kids, they're adults! No, they're kids to him. It is worth remarking upon that within weeks time of very very weak gun control bill gets defeated, in effect defeated in the Senate. We see yet another act which might have been a hell of a lot more difficult to pull off with effective gun control. So good work! Bring it all around to gun control and more rules and regulations... Wait a minute! How did you even make that turn?

36:07 The guys are bombers. No, but they had guns in the shootout you see? We don't even know that! They've never found a gun It's irrelevant to... This is all... What happened is irrelevant John we already established that 10 minutes ago it doesn't matter what happened its what takes place now that is interesting to me so we have Philip Mudd I've never met this guy. I'm looking at his picture. So Philip Mudd is also on Charlie Rose show He's the former deputy director of national security for the FBI former deputy director of counterterrorism Center for the CIA This is a real muckety-muck and this guy is is pretty much the biggest asshole I have seen on television in a long time. What's his name? Philip Mudd, M-U-D-D. Mudd! Yeah good name right? Good name so he is uh a career spook who actually turned down

37:03 It was I guess the government wasn't evil enough for this guy. Oh, yeah This guy looks like an evil guy in fact. I'll play them only pull it play him out of order Here's where Rose is asking about the fact that he turned down a job in government listen to this Yeah That's a little bit of what happened in the movie zero dark 30 isn't I didn't see it. Why not? Well, I will not see it. Why not? Because it gives Americans the sense that this is what their security services do as I understand It's sort of people sitting around rooms kicking around detainees That is unacceptable! It's not what we did in the perception among Americans that there are some rogue Security Service out there That does not operate at the direction of Congress and White House elected American officials

37:45 and under the law established by the congress interpreted by the department of justice i did not live in that world yeah pretty much goes counter to everything we know they told us what to do we try to execute it as best we could now yes we have a nice good voice just following all those so this guy is saying that i guess he doesn't watch the county hearings we watch or you know some of the meetings in the Russians institute and those sorts of things. Hayden, the guy who was ahead of torture and two other guys discussing this and Hayden being of course the head of the CIA at that time discussing Yeah, we situation. We played how it operated in a very calm manner and then this guy this guy doesn't seem he seems like an outsider to me who's just making a these are like a phony well listen okay so now I'll go back to the beginning where he's talking about what heat so what he believes these that the bomber the marathon men new mean with the marathon man were all about yes that we went from ideologically motivated people who had a whole architecture to build global terrorism

38:44 To two brothers who could do a basic attack and then went out to party afterwards because they didn't know how to get out And told people they'd done it. That's right, okay There are lots of questions that come out of this one motive What's your yeah? What's your judgment about motives motive now this is very by the way We don't know that they told anybody they no we don't know anything with This is the story that's being built by PBS PBS, your national treasure. Your public broadcast system The truth the shining beacon of light My judgment is what they say is not necessarily what I believe. They're going to talk about a broader goal, a broader jihadi goal for example which evidently the younger brother says. He's got the script though John he knows whats coming? Im suspicious about this the reason is first he doesn't have much of an ideological background second in these cases these kids know that they've done something heinous and want to explain that they did it for higher good

39:45 I think in some ways the explanation is much simpler, especially if you contrast it to what we saw with ideologically motivated terrorists 12 years ago. And that is two kids are pissed off they may be disenfranchised they may have had a bad experience at school they may not have friends and they say look We want to do something, this tactic of terrorism is the tactic of the 21st century. It's the way it goes! It's just... It's the Twitter of terrorism I'm telling you this is great let's say that we should be doing all the cool kids are doing it. ...for doing and that as we think our religion is under siege I don't necessarily think these are real jihadi terrorists I think they're angry kids. Now that was that to me was interesting he said I don't think they're real jihadi terrorists what could that mean?

40:31 This guy is not, by the way FBI. He's ex-CIA counterintelligence and I think he's yelling at other agencies for him to say these are not real jihadis what does that mean exactly? angry for example that their inability to find a place in American culture, angry maybe they don't have great friends. They may have some vague religious notions but their youth one of whom is 19 years old and his big brother said let's go do it I've said before i think in some ways psychologically this has characteristics of Columbine as much as it has characteristics of Al Qaeda So...I hadn't paid much attention what he was saying there until I heard

41:15 Joe Biden speak did you hear Joe Biden at the At the memorial service what he said go okay? Well, this is a two-parter John because we'll also play Drunk or not drunk are your city. You can answer it anytime is Joe drunk or not drunk I get asked like my colleagues almost every day Yes Congratulations! And he's very drunk actually. And he is so drunk that he gives away part of the script I think. Since 9-11, why? Why?! He is hammered John, I'm telling you there is drool coming out his mouth. Why this terrorist phenomenon in the late 20th century? He saying exact same thing as that guy just said

42:14 This terror phenomenon, the Twitter of Terror. Why? People say to me, for they surely know they can never defeat us They can never overthrow us They can never occupy us So why? Why whether it's Al Qaeda central out of the Fatah or two twisted perverted cowardly knockoff jihadis Knock off jihadis! Keep playing

42:51 here in Boston. Why do they do what they do? I've thought about it a lot because i deal with it alot and I've come to the conclusion which is not unique to me but they do it to instill fear, to have us in the name of our safety and security jettison what we value most in the world, most valuable values about us. What? Our open society, our system of justice that guarantees freedom." I think he smoked some weed too before he had the booze. He's got chemicals in him. Oh yeah!

43:43 all Americans to opportunity the free flow of information and people across this country are transparency. That's their target oh The moment we change, the moment we look inward, the moment We get in a crouch on our defensive that's the moment when they win What makes me so proud of this great state and the city of Boston and Cambridge, and all those involved? And the students on this campus.

44:26 What makes me so proud to be an American is that we have not yielded to our fears. What? Except, you know, we stay in our house and wait for the government to put a gun in our face and say it's okay! They don't say it's okay they say get out! No no I'm... We're saying it's OKAY. They're just here to rescue us. They are just here to rescue us. We have NOT compromised our values He's high. We have not weakened our constitutional guarantees at all whatsoever Like fourth amendment doesn't let us come in on this manhunt that's not weakening anything we have not closed Our borders I think the louder you yell the more true it becomes Joe try that oh, we have suffered We are grieving But we are not bending No, we will not yield to fear no

45:24 We will not hunker down, we will not be intimidated. When the world... Down in the houses! That's exactly what we were doing, exactly! Great towers were taken down on that horrible day The cynics said, we will never build another one! We built one taller! We did? What- we build one taller? What did we build this- I think it has a stick at the top Oh, its got a taller stick An absolute defiance Took 10 years when men locked up for the mountain the mosque struck Then those who said we'll never follow him. We said yes enough yeah drunk Yeah, drunk some alternate clips mm-hmm I do have an important reveal though But I'm happy to a detail of the reveal to though after these happy to detour Yes

46:23 I decided to catch the ABC. Very good, that's where... Brian Ross stuff. And no... Essentially it was all piling on and i have four clips including one we actually might want to play the clips in kind of an order but I do want to present one earlier or before which is the Rand Corporation guy comes on Again, it's an ABC thing and he...and this is during the period where the kid is being interrogated. Nobody really knows anything except some guy walks out once in a while says well what he told us was this which could all be bullcrap We know the police departments aren't most accurate in telling us what's going on, they just make themselves look good. So this guy, this Rant Corporation guy I'm listening to this as the guy is actually revealing the script And so this is ABC which we know fact is compromised

47:16 The news director of ABC is married to top Obama advisor. And the Rand Corporation, well... And it's run by Disney! Yeah there you go It's the most magical place on earth So this guy who doesn't really know anything The entire episode is yet to be perfectly deconstructed or even outlined by the police in any official way, but when you listen to this guy it's as if he knows all this stuff and I'm just like flabbergasted by what he says. As an official word of an analyst who has looked at everything and now has decided to give his opinion. Can you before I play can you just... What does the Rand Corporation do? They're a non-profit I believe than Rand Corporation. It's a think tank

48:05 Okay, you used to work with the government an al-qaeda internet description of how to make a pressure cooker bomb Seth Jones, a counter-terror expert at the Rand Corporation has analyzed the marathon attack and how it was pulled off. They ad libbed part of it and made some decisions on few elements of the bomb making but what's different about this is they took a very simple recipe and then targeted that Boston Marathon And why the marathon? Because officials say it was there essentially and easy

48:41 Not long in the planning either. It does appear though that the younger brother had not become involved until later in the process, perhaps a week or so before the actual attack. Jones says their brothers seem to have been inspired by the internet preachings of Anwar al-Awlaki the charismatic American-born al Qaeda jihadist who has been dead now for more than a year and half. The older brother appeared to be the more radicalized of the two, and was the one that drove both the need to conduct the attack as well as the preparation... Stop! Stop for a second How does he know any of this?

49:18 Yeah, exactly. How did they know that he was watching Elwha? How do they know it's a week before that he decided to join his brother this is all bullcrap! This is a script or ridiculous supposition that shouldn't be on the air and then Brian Ross fills in the blank with this voiceover that comes in every so often and by the way they like to make the explosion sound quite a bit. Can you promise me something if If I die before you do, could you make sure that they always say the charismatic Adam Curry? Because I really like that. That's nice How about once charismatic because you'd be dead Yeah yeah okay well no i think the mmm... The ever just ever charismatic You can be ever even though your dead A jihadist who has been dead now for more than a year and half The older brother appeared to be the more radicalized of the two And was the one that drove both need to conduct the attack

50:11 as well as the preparation for the attack themselves, that is building the bombs. And as to what drove 26-year old Tamerlan, officials say his younger brother claims it was hatred of America. He may have been angry at other things about the status of his life but he increasingly turned to Salafi jihadism which radicalized because among other things of US foreign policy decisions overseas and that especially Afghanistan and Iraq So this Atul was saying there were knockoffs I guess. Yeah, this is the official script. The thesis? Well this is all to push the agenda of what you can hear and let's play the regular series of clips which I call Piling on the Dead Guy and it says Brian Ross again who

51:01 essentially is reading the script and what we should be he's got the means in their list which one only on the dead guy just a but they are good brother is reported to be saying it's consistent with what we heard of neighborhood about the older brother tamar and has discussed the things american and christian please have that the bible as i had she copy off the karan you said that uh... most american wars are excuse for tonight It also emerged today that there might be a possible link to an unsolved murder two years ago. Local prosecutors said Monday, given Tamerlan's violent nature they are now investigating whether Tamerlan was involved in the brutal murder of three young men one of whom was his roommate

51:42 The three were found with their throats slashed, covered in marijuana and cash. Federal agents have also been looking closely at the six-month trip Tamerlan took last year to Russia at a time that rebel groups there carried out a number of violent attacks as ABC's Kirat Radiya discovered in the Dagestan region Just last year alone, Dagestan lost 115 police officers in nearly 300 terror attacks. Just two years ago this street was obliterated by a car bomb I think this guy also administered the doping to Lance Armstrong. I think that was his doing

52:19 I didn't know about the Dagestan stuff, but it's interesting. They're piling on... which is why they call it piling on because now the guy hates Christians and the Bible sucks and all these kinds of things you know guys will go out in the street just pick somebody up What are you from? I'm from ABC Network News. Oh yeah, no I know him! Yeah that's for sure. Do you think that he hates Christians? Yeah, oh yeah, cool, I remember that. By the way, this has happened to me. I've done certain things on certain networks and they tell you look we're not doing an interview here, you're supposed to say it

53:02 You learn this once, you don't have to be told a second time. So they'll hint around by saying something and then you say it but now you say it in a sentence and put it into your own words. They will actually tell you... In fact I used to work at MTV Think I can't write so long ago and I would always be so embarrassed when I'd be doing an interview and you'd have this a whole producer standing right off the side who would also be responsible for Editing the piece or their own pooch had nothing to do with the end of it They're gonna do it for like a news package or whatever. And so, yeah, and I'm talking to a you know a celebrity a huge star

53:44 and then the producer will interrupt and say, oh excuse me could you just give that answer again exactly like that but start it off with the question? I'm like are you a fucking asshole would you like fuck off. It's like the rude...and of course the celebrity goes sure i'll do that no problem so when you ask me about how the band came together Exactly, and you have to imagine the public is just as susceptible to this process of manipulation. Yes! As a celebrity absolutely Yeah probably more so because they want to be on ABC network So anyway, onward. Is that the end of that part? Yes! You've got three more so I'm ready... I'm waiting for my... Do you have a clip too where they start discussing the meme of self-radicalization which ABC is really pushing According to officials Chechnya had nothing to do with the marathon attack in view of the younger brother It doesn't at this point appear to be a Chechen thing Neighbors in Cambridge say Tamerlan was a changed man when he returned from Russia swearing off tobacco and alcohol

54:46 linking to extremist jihadists videos and saying I don't have any American friends. I don't understand them." I would characterize it as really self-radicalization, these are individuals who may have some connections overseas but the primary radicalization is in places like the United States. So... No! Now here's a little catch in here that you'd notice right away He said, oh it's got nothing to do with Chechnya. They made a big deal about that even though because that meme came up and started floating around the public domain. No, they pushed it to Dagestan. They moved it away from Chechnya So that way we don't have to cooperate with the Russians? Yes This is a Russian thing you say oh god! The Russians have been bitching about these Chechens forever now were going to help them We don't want that Dagestan by the way I looked this up on the last show

55:47 There are quite a number of pipelines coming, Russian pipelines going through Dagestan. Yeah 300 attacks there you have it And it would be very convenient if and its all near Georgia which we own pretty much right now You know George W Bush International Airport You know we so we own that whole region, so it could be very convenient if we had that little extra piece I'm you know not that it's gonna happen. If is that? I think there's multiple factions of play now everyone was like Dagestan dude let's get in there Let's go pipeline Divert oil off to Georgia can't go up north no it was good We got take it. I think that what we finished Rubicon by the way oh Yes

56:35 Makes total total sense and they had a self, you know and I'll spoiler alert. Okay, that's enough You know They have a guy whose self radicalized and you know the whole thesis there is pretty much it's no agenda It's a group of guys, you know big captains of industry And for 25 30 years they're manipulating world events to profit off of it either through military industrial complex or through Wall Street or through, you know many ways and they actually own a company that feeds false information into the intelligence system and of course subsequently into the media.

57:12 No wonder the show never got renewed. It's like you can't have a show with... Somebody in the intelligence community looked at this and said, no way! No way this is not going to be on the air. Just get that guy, let's see who's producing it? Just give him some money. Don't stop. Go away. Go away, go away you showrunner, you. Go away. Okay, piling on The Dead Guy finale has got a couple of memes in it okay factory hours after the younger brother talked to federal agents authorities swarmed an area behind a cambridge drugstore where the brothers father used to repair cars with no known links so far to al-qaeda or chechen rebels officials believe they are dealing with a new equally dangerous trend the internet trained terrorists this is now

58:01 kind of the Al-Qaeda modus operandi now, not relying only on operatives but trying to get people to do it. To self radicalize and build their own bombs without having come to a training camp in Pakistan or Yemen or other locations We desperately need AQ on the PC I'm sorry couldn't hear you because there's garbage trucks outside dumping garbage What did you say? we need AQ at the PC Okay, you know al-qaeda on the podcast is what we need. We need we need an Al Qaeda Podcast to radicalize everybody in fact we are the al-Qaeda of podcasts no We're not and we are totally see I'm gonna self radicalized right now Yeah, okay this gag of yours is not funny And that's not self radicalizing it something else. Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood

58:57 Can I play my reveal? There's one more clip here. By the way, you're the one that had the first clip of this it was last show... Hello? Hello! Oh no! No! That was it. I made a joke- I made one too many jokes about terror self radicalization Al Qaeda on the podcast and that's it we're done good night everybody It's been nice knowing ya

59:35 This week in Al-Qaeda. That's a good one, Thorn! Like... Hey everybody welcome to... Twi'ak! Ha haaa! Twi'ak Wow So is it really sure was a garbage truck on John? Mm-hmm A garbage truck Sure Alright well this is taking longer than usual so let me see what we can do Hello? Hey. Did you get an upgrade for a better Skype experience? Right? No, I had a power outage Oh really! Okay... Coincidence?! I think not!! By the way welcome back everybody to TWIAC this week in Al Qaeda I'm Adam Curry So and I am Leo Laporte

1:00:37 So you mentioned this last show, you had a good clip where somebody started bringing this meme in. We can assume that the meme is in play which is the internet, you know, Al Qaeda in a box or Al Qaeda on the Internet or whatever. You have to go get into it because the internet's a big threat. Exactly of course and this is why we also have this new working group to counter online radicalization which was set up in February So the timing is all kind of right. Oh yeah, coincidentally. Yeah, the timing is right. Do you have anything else or can I play my big reveals? Well let's just play... Just for the meme fest, the beginning of all this bull crap on ABC Is this one Brian Ross prelimp Piling on meme-fest In the hours before Zsarzornaev was charged with a crime that could lead to death penalty Authorities tell ABC News The 19 year old accused terrorist revealed why and how Of deadly bomb attacks

1:01:35 And for all the power of the two explosions. For all the dramatic gunfights, and for all indications of well-trained terrorist techniques The younger brother reportedly told agents according to the authorities it was almost entirely done from the internet Homegrown with no direction from overseas Who needs directions overseas when you've got the No Agenda show notes? I mean seriously So You made a very good point and the point you make is that everyone is saying all these things, all these facts. And Brian Ross actually I think he said we heard from the authorities who spoke to the guys who might have known someone else. Who heard from the younger kid even though he can't talk that this is what he said

1:02:28 So, throughout the week and I was running around a couple errands and so I was listening to our national treasure NPR. I keep hearing that there is actual video evidence of these bombers, the marathon men putting down their backpacks, walking away. The explosion goes off they don't flinch they keep walking yet what's weird is that... By the way yeah where have you seen this? Where is the video?! That's what I'd like to know! I've never seen this video but everyone says this guy's clearly not paying attention so let's listen to the governor of Massachusetts Is there anything on

1:03:11 the video tape that maybe the public hasn't seen about his reaction, that was particularly telling, that move the investigation along? Well, the videotape is not something I've seen. It's been described to me in my briefings But it does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down. Did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion so a pretty

1:03:48 uh... pretty clear and about his uh... is involvement in preaching frankly as it was described to me so wait a minute let me get this straight ahead yet that's not the case of the day thank you let me take it right now is waiting for that he says not seen detail haven't seen it but it was described to me and it's terrible chilling out which she leaves us chilling And he's stuttering throughout the whole thing because it has been described to him. No, no shall I tell you something? This guy is actually not a douchebag He is afraid for his life That could be but the point seems to me that what the normal person says The following which is what you would do and I would do Well I haven't seen it but it was described in some manner But I can't comment on it I've never seen it Right

1:04:44 everyone or something described as i can tell you i don't know why they were short to me that's another that's what you really should have a lot of her is uh... i've heard people say well no of course they can show that wide all because it would take the jury pool but let's look at it and now but then the governor of massachusetts who shot down the entire city based upon this evidence This evidence has not seen the video. We've been... we've been flooded with a video of these guys walking around, just walking around. Oh look he's got a white hat! But we're- and it's backwards but we're not allowed to see this and everyone here well you know I haven't seen the video but yeah but if exists is true its real don't ask any questions his real it's all real

1:05:37 So that to me is the damning evidence. This was kind of funny, drunk or drunk not... Drunk or drunk not? I'm drunk! Drunk or not drunk you can't hear it in the tape but she is drunk in the rest of the interview Diane Sawyer interviews George W Bush and Laura Bush for the opening of the Bush library and listen to Words Matter, man. And this guy... I miss him! I really do. I miss him. I do want to get right to the news of this week for some Americans. The terrorism in Boston

1:06:15 Now listen to the stumble and the correction of, you tell me what word he was going to use. People have wondered if it took you right back to 9-11 when you heard it? Well at first I was deeply concerned that there might have been a organized plot. I don't know all the facts but I was deeply concerned that this could've been another Organized highly organized attack on it. He was gonna say conspiracy Why didn't he say why did he pull back the word conspiracy? Because he's used to conspiracies like the 9-11 truth or ism conspiracy, that's why this guy's a douche He's the douche all right Let's let's thank our executive producers because we're very late on thanking them because of all of this stuff Okay

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1:14:28 fact Let's see a couple of things actually you want to take a little humor break Yeah, sure what you got big boy. So this guy is a new anchor in West Virginia your old stomping grounds I don't know if he had to see this or not but apparently I think the guy has Tourette's it would be my guess. Oh, well I'm an expert at this oh This is this was all over the news This is the guy who swore on me and it's very funny if it's like it's like everyone saw it play it Dreams in Motion organization has a fun time for the disabled a deadly avalanche kills five in Colorado

1:15:12 You're watching the Evening Sunday on NBC North Dakota News, your news leader in high definition. Gay fucking shit! Good evening I'm Van Thieu you may have seen our newest AJ on NBC North Dakota News and he'll be joining The Weekend News team as my co-anchor tell us a little bit about yourself AJ Thanks van i'm very excited I graduated from West Virginia University and I'm used to being from the East Coast Okay, well welcome aboard AJ. Yeah You know this was a promotion and a very sad promotion at that this guy has now been on the today show He's been he was gonna be on letterman. He's all over the place This is just you know it's like yeah, this is not humorous because it wasn't funny the first thousand times I saw it however um I do have a I have Well here we go

1:16:07 Of course, we all saw this happen. It was a really bizarre turn of events today starting at about 1 o 7 p.m Here's the tweet that the AP account put out at that minute it said breaking two explosions in the White House and Barack Obama is injured That was a fake report as a result of a hack attack against the AP Twitter account but it set off this reaction and the Dow Jones Industrial Average you see from the chart a huge spike down on that Okay. Now I heard you on that other little podcast you've got, This Week in Money. And this week in stocks or whatever and so what you two guys were saying is oh it's all automatic trading and they... You had this theory that the computers are scanning and then we get... No no! It wasn't my theory, Horowitz was talking about it. Don't make me play

1:17:19 clips from that show because play the clips if you want but I never heard this before this incident by the way was seven minutes so let me say I believe one of two things was happening here one coordinated complete coordinated effort and someone made a hundred million dollars real quick real easy now I do not believe for a second that computers are scanning AP tweets And if it says, if they've it says bomb White House Obama injured that then you know there's a sale order on everything and and If that's true then I'd love to see what was sold What you know what stocks made the Dow tank? Was it just dow was just futures in dower. Or was it the actual underlying security like stocks or would make them right so okay So I'd like to see what they were and what was sold off and who did this selling in our incredibly transparent market

1:18:13 I think that someone just made a bundle of cash, coordinated effort and not even a single person thinks to consider that could be true. No it's being looked into as we speak! Okay but no by this week in stocks? No by the SEC But more importantly this was of course clearly a movie promotion If you are just tuning in, we are going to breaking news out of Washington. Again this is a developing story there has been an explosion. Absolutely shocking! Officials searching for answers as to... We're also getting unconfirmed reports of explosions. This is a diversion So this of course is White House Down the big movie

1:19:06 The previous one was intended, you know it was promoted through the North Korea which by the way is all over no problem. North Korea back to the way they were everything's cool No missiles, no threat, no worries, no missiles incoming. And no discussion whatsoever? None whatsoever now it's White House down which is a big one because we got some really really big stars in this and It is about the White House being bombed So all we need next is I think the next ploy will be Air Force One being shot at. That will be the next little bit there. Is that in the movie? It's in the trailer, yeah And of course there's a third theory that analysts... If computers were programmed this way to think that Joe Biden would be our acting president Yeah, THAT would crash the market! I think that is very possible But no one really thought about it either

1:19:57 No, instead... Instead we discovered the Rycen guy was really just a... Really was just an Elvis impersonator. Well, here's my favorite thing about the Reiser story. Let me play the clip first. In 24 hours... Because it is also a movie and promotion. ...Paul Kevin Curtis stood accused of sending poison letters to President Obama and U.S Senator Roger Wicker but this morning the Elvis impersonator from Mississippi is a free man I would like to move on with my life Signed out what normal is again. Curtis was released after investigators said searches of his home and car turned up no traces of ricin or the ingredients needed to make it when you've been charged with something even You just never heard of rice and or whatever I thought they said right so I said, I don't even eat rice I Think this also was a promotion

1:20:57 And what was this before? Oh, uh well the very day after the arrest for Rison. This is the end my friend It's a roller coaster ride to hell we are here shooting sadly the final season that's right We're shooting a pretty wild scene between him and I. And... Do you know what it is yet? No. You're gonna love it! As you can see, we are in the White House Not THE white house but A WHITE HOUSE. And action! Breaking Bad Season Finale Is going to be so incredible. And I even called it. I said why Ryson? What ar- Because Breaking Bad is like all of sudden Everyone's heard of Ryson because It was a major storyline

1:21:45 And here it is, yes new season. The final final FINAL season of Breaking Bad the day after the Rison guy's arrested and no one even thinks about Rison Well I find the most interesting thing Was the, if you go back and revisit the Diane Sawyer piece. Because I'm assuming this guy wasn't in on the gag or as it were he wasn't in on the conspiracy? No He was just some dumb schmuck that got busted and then they got to make fun of him. Well it's cool when there is Elvis involved, it makes it funny. So play the rice and bomber irony with Sawyer. Okay... A man accused of sending those letters laced with poison to the president at a senator was in court today And tonight strange new details emerging he has said to be an Elvis impersonator obsessed with conspiracy theories Oh! I cracked up

1:22:44 Radicals! Now what's he gonna be like? So... He should be listening to our show. Yeah, really! What he should be uh... He should be front and center. He should be our mascot. He could do some jingles for us with the Elvis voice I guess he is on all the news channels And I see him, well i'm gonna do Randy Travis which is basically him doing Elvis with a Randy Travis lyrics Like I want to Bon Jovi which is basically him doing Bon Jovi sounding like Elvis. It's it's an Elvis guy. It's funny The guy's very funny I like him a lot. Sorry dude, sorry that had to happen to you." And by the way i think there was another element of this that we're missing which is that they were the prelude to this whole thing with the guys writing nasty notes to Congress telling people stop writing nasty notes your senators in your corrupt congress yeah and also he was signing them as

1:23:43 What's his name? Casey Curtis and I approve this message. That was his handle. I approve this message! Okay, dude... Hey by the way the White House Down movie So they've taken a Lincoln quote And this is kind of the whole premise of the movie at least of the trailer and the quote is America will never be destroyed from the outside if we falter and lose our- Actually should present it the way They don't actually read that, the first part is not on the trailer. It's this... If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves That's a really weird quote. That is a weird quote Which kind of falls into the whole radicalization We're gonna destroy our own country

1:24:38 And I looked it up, and I presume that it's true that Lincoln said America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we've destroyed ourselves. I guess that's his quote. Well he must have been referring to the breakup of the war between the states rather than any sort of thing we're dealing with today. Yeah not terror no of course not...of course not But I do have some proof that you know that were in big trouble. I got an email from The Shill's wife Yeah, yeah. D. I don't think she's ever sent me an email Okay Have you ever received an email from her? Yeah Like a nice one Just something like what is the Eric would you use it something to get Eric for his birthday or so okay So and and I said can I read this on the air she says yeah This is you should definitely do this In talking to my mother the other day She related to me what my 16 year old niece is learning in public high school

1:25:38 My niece said, quote, we're learning about birth defects in science. My mother asked you mean like phthalate? Thalidomide and such? What's thalidomide? Thalidomide birth defects. Oh, okay Okay My mother asked you mean like thalidomide and such my niece had never heard of that in her science class Which was learning about birth defects So my mother explained then my niece went on to describe what she is learning in public high school science class quote we're learning how ADHD Is a birth defect and how to get disability benefits because of it

1:26:17 Can you believe that? Yeah, I can. Of course they can believe it! So in science class they're teaching how attention deficit hyperactivity disorder is a birth defect and how you can get disability benefits because of it and Adderall by the way which was one of the things that they prescribed for that. We're doomed! They've finally given the kids practical information. We're doomed we're really doomed I'd like to hear from some more educators. Uh, I'm sure we have some uh... some science uh... some science educators around? If we solicited all the kids out there that listen to the show, and by kids i mean anyone under eighteen who may still be in high school just give us an anecdote of some of the idiocies they're given We could do another show! A Tuesday Show Okay well start sending it in fellows And by the way I still need a sling box someplace in Europe

1:27:17 Where? Anywhere. I just need to get on the Europe broadcasts. I thought you had one or two, you don't have anything in your... No, but Mr. Oil's got a Slingbox in London but it doesn't work on any of the known software that I can get hold of that says it does and he says he can get it but he is running some really old code I'm sure because he has like the original Slingbox and they do not support anymore. I am going to send him a sling box What is this Fido Alliance? Have you heard of this? No. Yeah, so I was watching Bloomberg and the guy... Actually, I can play the clip that... I'll play the clip in a second So the CEO of PayPal was on and I thought it's interesting because he was talking about bitcoins Here's a 30-second clip but that's not really what I want to ask you about Left field question Sure

1:28:08 Bitcoin, virtual currencies. What do you make of that? So I've been spending a lot of time looking at it and it's truly fascinating actually the way that the currency has been designed and the way that inflation is built in to pay for miners and all of that is truly fascinating And I think for us at PayPal, it's just a question of whether Bitcoin will make its way to PayPal as a funding instrument or not. We're kind of thinking about it right now. Like the rest of us? Yeah like the rest of us exactly. Not here by the way! So he talks about this Fido thing and I'm like, what is Fido? And it's all hyped up about you know this is what we're doing. It's the future forget the password John Forget the Password is the Fido moniker which you can find at fidoalliance.org and this does not sound like a good thing I'm sorry Forget The Passwords is their slogan

1:29:08 The Fido Alliance founders is Lenovo, Knock Knock PayPal, Validity, Infineon, Agnidio whatever but Google's on board. So they want to do biometric authentication which I don't think is a very good thing Well you know first of all this was attempted...I believe let me see I'm trying to think of the year when it was really popular Probably in the late 90s. And, in fact I still have a laptop that has the little thing on the bottom. Yes! I have one of those somewhere too that has little... you roll your finger over it? Yeah right. And this became a huge...I think was still during the Comdex era It was a huge...oh everybody's gonna do this and they had biometrics everywhere

1:30:03 and they went to the show it was like you couldn't turn a corner and it wasn't biometrics. You went to Interop, biometrics... And this lasted for about two-and-a-half years and never caught on. This is just seems to me to be another attempt at it and it just doesn't catch on in there's couple of reasons one It doesn't work that well Two, you have a situation I think this is the big one you have a situation your own your notebook or give your notebook to your wife and yeah she tries to call you. Hey honey I'm here in Boston, what's the password so i can get on your notebook? Yeah oh you're gonna have to chop my finger off Pulled my finger bitch! So it's like uh... is impractical but I have a feeling the government is going start pushing this It's not gonna help Well Google has joined

1:31:04 According to the MIT technology review Google has joined the the the ad the initiative the Alliance they can all join It's not gonna be people are gonna have this problem with okay, so I'm on the road now And I've got something you're right my computer and so hey JC Can you go up there in my office and then boot the machine? And then get this all you know again no yeah, I can't get on under any circumstances because even though he's in the family. I mean the whole thing is bad All right, so since we're in the... So what's wrong with a password? Oh somebody is going to hack my Google Plus account. Yeah exactly well no of course we're talking about cyber attacks on critical infrastructure like your porn account I mean you want talk a problem is that so let me ask you question currently in California what is the price of regular automobile petrol

1:32:01 about more or less. Premium I don't pay much attention to. A premium is fine too, it doesn't matter. All right it varies right now from $3.99 to four dollars and I think 15 cents. Okay how much is diesel? Diesel's always a little higher why because they reformulated in about five or six years ago to this low sulfur diesel very expensive to manufacture oh it's because the manufacturing is more expensive so then what are they doing in Europe Because I don't think they require that same diesel fuel we require. We went to a new diesel a little while ago called low sulfur And it's you know, but it's so wait a minute Well on a second turns out to be really expensive to make but is that just in California or all of all? Of America, I think the whole country So and so Europe is not green because in Europe A liter of or in the Netherlands I should say a litre of euro 95

1:32:59 was going for 1.786 euro while diesel was going for one point four four eight euro there's a couple possibilities and I don't know sister okay well then onward if you don't know that one they may because they like using diesel cars and they love diesel in Europe they may tax it differently ok I would doubt seriously if they're not using the same diesel we're using nowadays because otherwise it'd be embarrassing. Like in America, that would be greener than me! Well that's why i'm asking...I know that we are no allowed to have...in California you can't even buy a new diesel car can ya?

1:33:38 Yeah, you can. Not for a while though! You couldn't even buy a diesel car in California. That was because again there's the pollution thing people don't maintain them they couldn't pass some smog requirements is a lot of right right the smog requirement however the diesel car gets like 70 miles to the gallon no if that diesel car gets there's more energy and diesel than there isn't gasoline but it's only I think there's the Volkswagen Volkswagen mile per gallon Europe hold on a second. I'm telling you it gets like 70 miles to the gallon no Okay, hold on No the TDI here volkswagen to launch 68 point nine mile per gallon Passat blue motion in Europe that's pretty much almost seventy miles per gallon But you cannot buy that car in the United States mm-hmm. I'm sorry That's uh

1:34:30 57.4 US gallons, okay that's... Wow what is this? What is it where they have different gallons now? It literally.. This is very funny. Apparently yeah there's a Alverdupois and versus the Continental gallon Okay but 57.4 miles per gallon U.S. is pretty amazing and it's a turbo diesel but you cannot buy that car in America No we have to have batteries Alright, well it's definitely not 70 but it is a lot and I doubt it. They've been lying about all the car companies seem to be getting a pass on they've set up new... The way that was told to me the EPA has setup these new tests for mile per gallon approvals so you can put in on the car that you get 47 or whatever. Oh they changed the test okay I get it sure And the tests are really rigid kind of crazy tests that doesn't reflect anything

1:35:35 in real life and all of these mileages are at least 10 over. Mr. Oil says it's all about tax and import duty and export duty, okay? Sure fine But I think we're getting screwed It seems to me if you can get almost 60 miles to the gallon in a turbo diesel Which you cannot buy that is my understanding That they actually that they they even make these some of these cars in the United States but don't put the engine in ship it off to Europe And then put the engine in I mean, it's crazy And apparently it's because the EPA has some way of testing and that there is like 10% more emissions coming out of the turbo diesel, but of course you get twice the mileage out of it so... You're really not...you're actually polluting less.

1:36:25 And it seems like, and you know it's efficient. I love diesels! You can't buy a diesel in Texas It is very hard to find There he goes with his diesel Hey are you using biodiesel on that thing Trump? That what I like about it, you can pee in the tank Hey you smell like a french fry when your going by You can urinate in the tank and the thing will work It was kind of expensive for 100 horsepower clunker but okay 104 What do you think the Dodge Ram has left in it? It's not like 60 horsepower, there ain't much left in that thing. You hit the accelerator and its like... It is tuned up! There just air popping out of every nook and cranny of that thing. Hey uh Drone Nation time everybody! Oh wait a second we should probably play a little drone jingle haven't done that in awhile so here we go. I'm gonna drone again naturally

1:37:25 Very fun as always, you know I'm watching a lot of C-SPAN. They usually carry the press conferences live when it comes to the State Department John F Kerry which is the way he signs his name people He's such an egotistical nutjob John F Kerry just so you think like Camelot with my big water hood But in this case it says spokeshole Carney And a very interesting question from a foreign reporter regarding terror and drones. I send my deepest condolences to the victims and families in Boston. President Obama said that what happened in Boston was an act of terrorism, I would like to ask do you consider the U.S bombing on civilians in Afghanistan earlier this month that killed 11 children and a woman killed a form of terrorism? Why or why not?

1:38:26 So let me get this straight. So you called these two yahoos... What? We're gonna get more of this! Oh yeah, so that's terror but does he also consider it terror when a drone strike kills 12 women and children how would you answer John if you were in the PR business well i would have to know more about the incident of time and not yeah i think you should go to the department of defense part of the partner defense uh... well breaking news stop breaking news breaking news all right let's plug it in brady has If God forbid they had arrived in New York City and got to Times Square, I'm sure they would have seen an enormous police presence. Bombers plan to attack New York! ...extensive network of cameras that are part of our security initiative... Bloomberg's gotta get on the news again.

1:39:16 such as packages left unintended on the street. The investments that we've made in counter-terrorism operations, technology and intelligence help reduce the possibility of a successful terrorist strike but they certainly do not eliminate it. Nothing can do that. We don't know if they would have been able to stop the terrorists had they arrived here from Boston. We're just thankful that we didn't have to find out that answer. Hang him! Yeah, hang him. Unplugging... there we go I get some kind of hum, have to unplug the whole thing Anyway so back to drones yeah let's say you want because it's very interesting what his answer is because he takes it very seriously would have answers to your questions on this matter We have more than 60,000 US troops involved in a war in Afghanistan Hey hey hey There's a war in Afghanistan did you know that? Did we declare that war

1:40:14 I don't remember them declaring the war. I didn't know where they were declared any wars it began when the United States was attacked in an attack that was organized on the soil of Afghanistan by al-qaeda by Osama bin Laden and others and Three thousand people were killed. Okay, okay ten years ago And it has been the president's objective to to and the Afghan government to allow them to take over security for themselves. And that process is underway, and the United States has withdrawn a substantial number of troops, and we are in the process of drawing down further as we hand over security lead... Yeah but is it terror when you kill women and children with a drone? ...To Afghan forces. And it is certainly the case, but I refer you to the Defense Department for details that we take great care

1:41:17 In the prosecution of this. Oh the prosecution you see they're prosecutors now Of this war Wow the prosecution of this war and We are very mindful what our object is very good But then my favorite, and when Rand Paul did his whole filibuster of the canon American citizen be droned while having coffee at a cafe. You recall this 13 hour ordeal? Yeah it was just that it did so much! Now I think I said that he's not your friend and that he's a distraction, and he is no better than any of these other douchebags. And I think maybe...I was right! I'm thinking um.. What else can these guys say? I didn't even know they had the ability with a helicopter to do that but then again i am not Werner Von Braun here, I just have anger but I tell you they had the ability look at me in my home or you in your own home or anyone in their own Now this was too a desired end, knock down a bad guy Or alleged bad guy

1:42:18 Here's the distinction, Neil. I've never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat and active crime going on If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and $50 in cash... ...I don't care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him Oh okay! So if you rob a 7-Eleven who gives a crap who kills you? Or how your killed as long as your killed Rand Paul, shame on you. This is a senator! So you have $50 in one hand and your coming out of a convenience...$50! $50! This is the value of life that Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky puts on life. $50 and he doesn't care if a policeman kills you or a drone kills you it doesn't matter its all good. As long as you get killed. Fuck You

1:43:18 So I have a Rand Paul clip, so just to show kind of how robotic he is. He has somebody come up with some government...I think she's one of the EPA or something. He asks her a question to get her to say that she believes in pro-choice because the whole administration is for pro choice for babies But she doesn't answer the question quite right. She says, yeah he's going to go on a rant but she screws with him by saying yes she is for pro-choice of light bulbs I was wondering if you're pro choice? I'm pro choice of bulbs

1:44:00 Well, actually that's the point. And the point is that most members of your administration probably would be frank and characterize themselves in up front as being pro-choice for abortion but you're really anti choice on every other consumer item you've listed here including light bulbs refrigerators toilets... You name it! You can't go around your house without being told what to buy You restrict my purchases. You don't care about my choices, you don't care about the consumer frankly. You raise the cost of all the items with all your rules and notions that you know what's best for me. Frankly, my toilets don't work in my house."

1:44:41 Dude, you want to kill me for $50 shut up. There's two things here one She says she's pro bulbs and he says she's not and he goes on this he didn't hear a word She said no He doesn't care he doesn't care and then he makes the comment that none of his toilets work That's bullcrap yeah now this guy is no good I'm sorry This is no good when when you when you start talking like this You know Guy's no good. Sorry, it's just no good care what you say? All right here we go is an acid John segment Prepared by Miss Mickey this morning and you ready tell me John C Dvorak what this is oh my god This is truly truly An outstanding product so extending white product nice Product you know which he made for me a pancake well she meant yes But this is chocolate covered bacon

1:45:47 Ah, you're making me sick. I have never tried it until this very moment and it is really really good Well you better have a speed dial for the local hospital Why? It's just chocolate and bacon Let me try this piece Hmm...I can't imagine worst combination for anything If we would um hmm It's not on a stick But its kind of interesting I think if she'd use sweeter chocolate might've been better But it's very good. Is it dark chocolate or milk? 71% Dark Okay I think you should use a milk chocolate with that. I think so too, but the combination...I really really like it You should try it Oh yeah So uh Maybe you'll help me gain some weight Yeah there ya go! I'm gonna show my smooth by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Well yeah they'd be fab On NO AGENDA

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1:48:19 And by the way, he's the guy with the Airbnb recommendation who was having some issues. Right and so I told him go Airbnb says he had placed book within 48 hours Yeah We were donated on her bucks we're doing airbnb for our trip to Europe except for when we're staying with my gangster friend in The south of France okay? But yeah, Airbnb kicks ass in Mooresville Indiana $100 Hutch is also Kilo 9 kilo Juliet November 73s and we'll be until okay stop for one second so we if you We have now hijacked the 33 frequencies on both 20 meters and 40 meters. So even if you google 14 point o three three CW You basically get everything that I've tweeted

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1:55:34 Oh, I see. They're both pointing the finger at us so ING says we didn't get any money! And Chase says we gave them money but they didn't want it. Yeah, Chase rejected on terrorism grounds that's funny Ty, I sort of like that thank you very much What does it mean? It means Christina transfer. Remember that was the whole thing that they were like, what is that word mean? You're transferring a terrorist! Terrorist transfer! Bruce Hall writes this to write the word. Oh its code for terrorism. Its because of the best podcast in universe. Barclay wants to thank Mike Snyder, Barclay Hinkle Smithers BC

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2:00:00 And we say happy birthday to a couple of good friends of the program Sir Kelly Spongberg congratulates his wife Dame Andrea she turns 30 and we would like to see pictures. Happy Birthday Dame Andrea! Buddy sir 19 inch rack void zero mark Celebrates his 29th birthday today, and he is celebrating in the data center working on Ensuring you can receive the best podcasting universe. Thank you very much on behalf of John myself And of course your colleagues a mr.. Oil I serve get most slave in the internet and sheriff gene Of course the entire cast and characters here on The Know

2:00:45 Okay, we got a couple of titles to take care of so first of all We'd like to recognize the following changes as Sir Chris Jacob as Jacob no s God I know how much he hates it He's becoming a baron. So I'm going to make him the Baron of the armory if he wants to pick a Physical location and he's more than welcome to get back to us but you had already asked him right what do you wanted? Yeah, I did okay. You'll get back to work and Sir Jeffrey Gerlach Also becomes a baron and do we know his protectorate no not yet? Okay, and doing oh well okay? Well wait It's kind of good to know people if you're gonna be a baron But they didn't even say they wanted to be a Baron well must have

2:00:00 And we say happy birthday to a couple of good friends of the program Sir Kelly Spongberg congratulates his wife Dame Andrea she turns 30 and we would like to see pictures. Happy Birthday Dame Andrea! Buddy sir 19 inch rack void zero mark Celebrates his 29th birthday today, and he is celebrating in the data center working on Ensuring you can receive the best podcasting universe. Thank you very much on behalf of John myself And of course your colleagues a mr.. Oil I serve get most slave in the internet and sheriff gene Of course the entire cast and characters here on The Know

2:00:45 Okay, we got a couple of titles to take care of so first of all We'd like to recognize the following changes as Sir Chris Jacob as Jacob no s God I know how much he hates it He's becoming a baron. So I'm going to make him the Baron of the armory if he wants to pick a Physical location and he's more than welcome to get back to us but you had already asked him right what do you wanted? Yeah, I did okay. You'll get back to work and Sir Jeffrey Gerlach Also becomes a baron and do we know his protectorate no not yet? Okay, and doing oh well okay? Well wait It's kind of good to know people if you're gonna be a baron But they didn't even say they wanted to be a Baron well must have

2:01:40 Okay, well I mean it's on the list. I didn't make it up okay Well he didn't say where he wants to be you know they don't have to just what's the rush? Because oh God I said you are in some cases there is a rush because it's gonna be somebody else exactly You know it's like other people are gonna grab the land you know you don't want to have this get a subdivision Like a freaking lot if you're a baron Anyway, let us uh... What are you? Do you have your- did even bring your sword to the program today? I got it right here. Michael O'Grady and Heather Aronson step forward please! Both of you have supported The No Agenda Show Best Podcasting University with an amount of $1,000 or more In fact, Heather 33 cents over thank you very much highly appreciated so i hearby pronounce thee Sir

2:02:30 Michael O'Grady, Knight Paladin and Dame Heather. Knight and Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable for you I've got depending on what you prefer Hookers & Blow, Ramp Boys & Chardonnay Hot Pants & Booze Wenches & Beer Rubin S Women & Rose Gushes & Sake Vodka Vanilla Bong Hits & Bourbon Sparkling Cider & Escorts Mutton & Meat And Long Haired Heavy Metal Guys & Scotch And thank you for your support of the program. You, of course will be in the credits at 507 dot NA show notes dot com and people have to realize that we ask for this sort of support so we don't have to pull a kind of crap that they did recently on ABC What was that? Well I tried to track down how this happened Oh i see it. Okay right yes

2:03:22 Yeah, and now wait wait let me just wait a little background. This is it this is this is the nightline show That which is a news program correct? It's a news program And it used to be, you know a breaking news program. It used to be good news for him but no here we have a puff piece A 7-8 minute puff piece I only have a couple clips from it on Taco Bell as though this was news Wait do I play top news on ABC first or what? No, you'll play Taco Bell 1 Drive down any major thoroughfare in America and it won't be long before you spot a Taco Bell. The fast food mega franchise known for its iconic talking chihuahua commercials, and forays into dishes as daring as they are delectable.

2:04:11 dishes as delectable as they are deluctileckaluckaloo. In a country fueled by fast food reimaginations of classic cuisine, ABC's John Schiffen gets a first-hand look at an American company causing quite the stir They could be screaming for a boy band, but instead they're screaming for of all things a taco Wow So did is this that like the upfront it's like the Taco Bell promise a huge? Huge by there's a second clip wait. Maybe we still hold on I'd hold on I need to reframe this from my brain because that smoke coming out of my ears and

2:04:52 This is Nightline. This is a news program and you're telling me that this is a segment... Yeah That is about the fandom of Taco Bell, The Taco Restaurant which includes 30% other stuff Right Yeah, this is exactly what I'm saying. Now this that as a it was a lot think it was the longest segment on the show as a matter of fact and they may have opened the show with this but here's the deal here's away here's way I perceive how this evolved for one thing there's a lotta Taco Bell material on ABC if you do some research into their new site and I think this has to do with his longtime deal that was done between Disney at their parks and Taco Bell places right

2:05:39 So, it starts... so this particular thing I believe was a make good for Taco Bell. A fluff piece. Did they have a... Was there like some kind of... did someone screw something up? Diane Sawyer did a piece, she just did kind of mentioning that Taco Bell had a salmonella outbreak. Oh no! Like a few weeks earlier. What do we have proof of this? Yeah well the proof is in the if you do it a news search on the ABC News site it's right there Diane Soren that news night to salmonella outbreak from Taco Bell so thats I mean its not hard to find that and I don't have a clip

2:06:18 But they I can imagine the way the meetings went though and you can too. Oh, yeah Hey, you know this was uncalled for we've been doing business with you guys for just many years. Do you know Disney? We got a special deal with Disney. We got our stores here and all over the place. So we really found this is offensive It wasn't even accurate You didn't do a good job and made us look bad and hold on that let's listen to the advertiser We spend 20 million dollars a year advertising on your network. Oh no there's more than that it's I think it's more than twenty million well Yeah, it's probably tons. I mean we could get those numbers, but whatever the case is it's millions and so you know what do they have to look will make it up to you guys will get and there was mostly about how great the CEO is really well gee that's a giveaway

2:07:07 But the CEOs on there saying, yeah we're a great company. And then they had this little part which is in Part 2 where they were... There are cameras and they sent a crew into the middle of nowhere to film this little bit so that could extol the great virtues of Taco Bell with some community out God knows where play that part. The rollout of each new menu item now comes with a side of social media marketing. A side of social media marketing! Using sites like Facebook and Twitter to create a buzz. Okay folks, here is the doozy... When the tiny town of Bethel Alaska was tricked into thinking Taco Bell would finally open up there just so that the town wouldn't be disappointed Taco Bell flew in a truck of tacos. Oh god

2:07:57 You listen to Diane. Outbreak in a popular food chain but we did not know about it at first happened three months ago the name of the restaurant chain was withheld today, we learned it was Taco Bell so why was the information withheld? It is raising questions about transparency your right-to-know and government secrets ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has been looking into it for hours No I'm telling you there something else going on here this is the typical fight between the newsroom and the ad sales department. This to me sounds... Oh yeah, well this goes on constantly but why is it- Why do they knuckle under at Nightline? Well duh! I mean for the reasons you just stated Hello 20 million dollars we spend on this freaking network Do you know that David Letterman is ready to get out his nose and on his knees and blow me for that kind of money He's he wants to do the top 10 reasons for Taco Bell for five weeks straight And I get this from Diane F. Sawyer That drunk bitch

2:08:56 That's how the meeting went. That's the way meetings go, that's how the meetings go Yeah and that's why the whole system is corrupt And that's why we have to ask people to support this show directly Exactly So it would be... We'd be susceptible just as anyone else on any other commercial networks and that includes you know guys who sell seeds Speaking of seeds Wow where was this? This was interesting The UPOV, which stands for... hold on a second. You got to take a look at this these guys there's that they're basically taking it Monsanto is taking over the seed business in Africa upov.int here's the story

2:09:46 uh... africa around eight percent of seed comes from local and community saved cd resources the seat is adapted to local conditions courses that we used to work everywhere in the world you see banks forms an integral part of community food security agriculture intent integrity this entire traditional system is now under threat a broad front of commercial interests, aided and abetted by the World Bank, the American Seed Association and government agencies along with front groups academics and so-called philanthropists are endeavoring to alienate this crucial resource. Oh I love this site! The International Union for the Protection

2:10:23 new varieties of plants. Let me give you their mission statement. New varieties meaning genetically engineered, dangerous plants. In other words... To provide and promote an effective system of plant variety protection with the aim of encouraging the development of new varieties of plants for the benefit of society Hold on, we gotta do that differently. Hi! Welcome to UPOV. We're here to promote and provide an effective system of plant variety protection with the aim of encouraging the development of new varieties of plants all for the benefit of society Please resume your normal activity Isn't this great?

2:11:21 This is kind of interesting. This began some time ago, there's a PDF file here that says came into being with the adoption of the interna- we should look into this, we have to do a little research. The adoption of the International Convention for the Protection of New Varieties of Plants by a diplomatic conference in Paris on December 2nd 1961 Yeah now this is all part of Agenda 21 This has been around for a long time This was at which there was recognition of the rights of plant breeders on an international basis I have a right as a plant breeder to breed new varieties for society This has a lot of agenda 21 written all over. It's good stuff isn't it? Yeah, there's a winner yeah, I love it I thought was pretty cool a lot of Switzerland of course oh yeah well this is all you in and nothing else new really hey did you catch the whole

2:12:26 The whole Al-Qaeda thing, from the...Al Qaeda from Canada? Oh, were they... did Canadians decide to get back in the news by arresting some guys out of the blue? Yeah it was good. In the midst of this Boston story came another one late this afternoon another terrorist plot unrelated troubling nonetheless This one's been thwarted and apparently targeted passenger trains routes from the US to Canada among the potential targets NBC's Stephanie Goss has been working this story all day. Stephanie, good evening. Good evening Brian. Well the two suspects are not Canadian citizens but have been living in the country they're accused of planning to derail a passenger train near Toronto with guidance and direction. Derailed! Not blow up no derailed what is it like put pennies on the track?

2:13:17 Operation Smooth, John. Operation it's operation smooth. We're only coming to light anything Yes, only coming to light now with help from the FBI and the US Department for Homeland Security Canadian authorities Emphasized today that the plot was still in its planning stages And the public was never in any imminent danger But that these two suspects had both the capacity and the intent to follow through oh How do they know that because before it's a crime I

2:14:01 It's pre-crime! Intent, intent. It's a big tent so you're... Everything is about pre crime nowadays That's right Oh not just pre crime oh my goodness I found a great remember we talked about this uh prediabetes dot com Yeah I didn't even know there was a website for it I didn't either Because one of our doctors said, oh they know this pre-diabetes thing and there's a website. I think it's prediabetes dot com. I think everybody is pre diabetic Of course you are! Yeah, predia... uh... Prediabetescenters dot com but preventnow dot com That's the one that is. Prevent now dot com Let see what we can prevent Oh boy An innovative 16 week program designed to help you lose weight and avoid diabetes

2:14:54 Well, yeah. You're gonna avoid diabetes by killing yourself I guess Join a small hand-picked team of people just like you get one on one health coaching to guide you along your path Don't get diabetes that would suck So, go back to this other clip. Okay so wait no I got a second clip No but give me the what was the Operation Smooth again? Oh they were tracking these guys but they were tracking... Wait a minute see now i'm reading a Russian report and it says after the capture they claim they got their training from Al Qaeda the two men yes They called the plot operation smooth

2:15:31 No, I heard it differently. I heard operations... That's what I hear too! The Canadian scheme was Operation Smooth. These guys, the Russian interpretation would know that the plot was called Operation Smooth Now we have a discrepancy Here is the Canadian news We learned more today about two men arrested by RCMP in connection with an alleged terror plot against a Via train And tonight, CBC News has also learned more about the overall investigation and the connection to Iran. I have to say that a lot of Canadian online media certainly but some other mainstream are calling this the RCMP out as incredible douchebags for this clear bullcrap story timing it

2:16:21 But of course, we get this flows over into the United States as all the trains were coming to America. And you know what? This is all leading to don't you Imagine boarding a train in the center of the city. No racing to an airport, across the terminal no delays, no sitting on the tarmac, no lost luggage... ...no taking off your shoes. Oh yeah sure well we'll hold you to that! No weapons of war on this street. Shutting down Gitmo? Yeah no weapons of war and... Take that to the bank! You can take that to the bank, that's true.

2:17:02 Then of course, everybody was really hoping for an airplane. Okay, so this was very funny because everyone sent out their top crews to go and find all the delays but there really weren't other than weather delays. Here's ABCs report. ABC's Matt Gutman did some traveling himself to investigate and he joins us now from Miami So how did it go for you there Matt?

2:17:50 Hey, good morning Robin. It didn't go that well we spent 11... Yeah it kind of sucked you know I couldn't really get the story you wanted me to get ...hours in airports and didn't really find an airline apocalypse but all those little delays either caused by a shortage of FAA air traffic controllers or by... So this is what happened like okay what are we doing for Monday morning show? Alright its time now we got the message in We're ABC so we've got the message from The White House its time And we've got a meme let's see whats the meme Jane whats the meme? Airplane will not go through Airplane apocalypse is what the White House would like us to do. You, ABC's reporter dude! You go out there and get us an airline apocalypse story! The weather even started to snowball into delays of four or five hours... And he got weather delays

2:18:34 This morning the sequester is walloping airports again. Walloping! So far several hundred flights delayed, far less than the agency's prediction of 6700 daily flight delays but Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood warns ABC News we might yet see an airplane apocalypse. Airplane Apocalypse We'll be back next week with more airplane apocalypse fail One of our producers mentioned that the majority of the security at airports is actually funded by airports. It's also part of a tax. Well, this is bull crap. What they're saying is that this is furloughs for the air traffic controllers? Oh right! The Air Traffic Controllers

2:19:21 You know, I am a pilot and I have dealt with air traffic control. You have at any given moment you have one person on the tower and it literally is one voice that you're hearing on the tower frequency now you will have people of different points that approaches etc but they're always there as one person you don't have like they sound like two people on the tower You have one person on ground, you know there's different... but those are the two main frequencies. You've got approach, you've got the tower three main frequencies and you've got ground and ground literally make sure that you're not crashing into each other. But they do pass you off? Yep from one to the other! I know but then when you're gone when you're on your way you get these guys across. Yeah yeah but it's not like they're unmanned

2:20:14 You see, so I don't understand. Hey anybody around? So you're telling me that the furlough means that they just turn off the radio? Yeah uh-huh No, that is bull crap. They turn it off and you just have to add lib. Just talk to each other... I mean by the way... Peer-to-peer. Peer-to-peer man. It's peer-to-peer. Hey United 843 are you behind me or in front of me? By the way, you laugh but that is exactly what the next gen system is, is peer-to-peer That's what they want as they want the airplanes to talk to each other electronically and have proper separation. Almost like a communication car

2:20:55 It's all more the same and I will say that airplanes all the time are looking out for each other. When you're flying VFR, you know, the tower will basically say well you've got a guy somewhere up there he seems like he could be 500 feet lower but it could be on your altitude keep your eyes open and then you keep your eyes open when you see the guy you call back to towers of visual And the other guy, yeah visual I got him okay well don't bump into each other. Yeah okay no problem continue now of course we're not doing 500 miles an hour at 40 000 feet but that's actually a lot easier so this whole thing that oh it's being delayed because of furlough? No it's either it's either it's binary it's on or off there is no like middle ground there's no middle ground you can't just not man it all of a sudden

2:21:48 Now, could it become dangerous because people are spending long hours and are working longer shifts? Yes. Of course. And human error can especially if someone's fatigued can always happen that's most likely to happen with your pilot by the way who are fatigued all the time. Yeah they're wearing them out and make $20,000 a year to entry-level pilots So, uh... Bullshit. Sorry! So we have to discuss some of the crap that's coming out even though you brought up one of our producers brought up the drone possibility blowing up that place in Texas Yeah And now there is millions of videos

2:22:29 Yeah, of the FEMA trucks that showed up the day before. Have you seen those? No I missed that one. Oh! FEMA trucks showed up the day before and then of course you see the videos which are slowed down and frame by frame and you see like an explosion coming in from the left side or it could have been a yeah or something plasma plasma attack a rocket with a fiery tail yeah what do you think Well, I like the one that's been going around where they have that one frame with the explosion on the left or whatever it is. A flash. Right

2:23:05 Which could have been. And I'm not, if i'm not mistaken most of the predators in the drones when they shoot they don't shoot straight They don't fly over something and then shoot down No it's at an angle from a distance sure It's gotta be a long, it's gotta be an oblique angle unless the thing wants to dip or its not like a fighter you know where he has some guy doing fancy maneuvers to shoot his rockets So it could be coming in at that angle because that's a low angle and then it just exploded like crazy Which does make some sense? Because there was you know need something to trigger that thing. That wasn't done That wasn't a spontaneous explosion I think there was something launched so I'm in on that I'm good for that well, and remember there was the whole Monsanto lawsuit thing right And we know us and we know that yeah The Monsanto guys are everywhere and then we had the barge in Alabama Yeah

2:23:57 Which also sounds like it was bombed or something, because if you play I have a clip that gasps. This is the guy who was there filming it and of course the anchor guy's an idiot he asked the wrong questions but it's kind of interesting to listen to it Well I'm the general manager for Condi in the hotel down right off South Royal Street we basically have the Carnival Triumph in our backyard And uh... We were up on second floor balcony hanging And the guy lit up in orange and yellow, and my partner was on one end of the balcony. I was on the other. It looked like the Carnival cruise ship was on fire at first but then we realized it was a little bit farther from the ship but it sounded like planes above you dropping bombs when they first went off

2:24:47 All right, Alan. We can see these intense flames as you're talking here. Clearly this intense was rather powerful could you feel the impact from where you were? We could feel the rumble on the balcony that we're standing on and we can hear it and as soon as it went off I was sitting in a chair and he was standing and I stood up and I didn't know what to do because we were on the second floor was so close, or you know one of those shocking moments you don't really know what to do. After we figured out what it was I ran down to the riverfront by the Convention and Visitors Bureau and I was on top of these stairs taking video for you guys a chastity bird when uh... the second explosion went off and i saw everything. Now could you feel the concussion? Or feel the heat from this

2:25:41 So I have this clip too, and i just want to thank all the producers who send in stuff like this. This is not covered...I have not seen this covered at all Because of course, you know we need to have Bloomberg standing on his stack of phone books to talk about how New York was a potential target and all be afraid. But when I saw this what was the first thing? We just finished Rubicon! And the premise... Right so I didn't mention this before another spoiler okay good In the final episode of Rubicon, they've been tracking down this guy who's been setting off explosions and it's all been for a reason for profit. And he decides to sink a barge in Galveston Texas

2:26:30 because that is the gateway for oil. The choke point, yes for oil in America and I'm like wow you know so here's a liquid natural gas barge that has been bombed as the guy just said i heard the planes go over by dropped the bombs let's just ignore that and I like wow that's it you know it's a total Rubicon plot I don't think that this is where was this again a mobile ice mobile alabama I believe well I'll tell you what the deal isn't it's not being covered very well and that's that's the end of so last Sunday at the the church off group send out an email

2:27:20 And they had, at least if it wasn't Chertoff himself. They had a representative from every...from the Chertoff group on every single Sunday news show and they sent out an email one of those company promotional email blasts to say look how good we are! We're on every single show! Oh, I should have figured out who did PR agency was that pulled that off It was internal i think this was... What do you mean bull? There's no way. Yeah, yeah I have a copy of the email No i'm sure the email is internal but there was somebody behind it and they were on one of the big agencies there's no way the internal guy can pull that off It's impossible

2:28:06 I don't know. Well, I mean yeah, the turnoff group is no slouches Yeah, but it's all part of a quid pro quo if you're WPP or one of these big agencies You can really pull out and make everything happen at once True Yeah, you could dick it out every once in awhile when you get on something But if you get all this stuff at the same time like bang bang bang bang Like that woman did with Lean In The Book There's a big agency behind it There's no way anyone could do that internally It's just not possible You're right So I can find out who the agency is Oh, it should be easy. It's probably on their website. Okay, let's see... Where is the Chertoff Group today? It was like a real internal company but they also sent it to their clients

2:28:54 Yeah, you do. It's all bullcrap look how great we are let's see Chertoff group. Let's just go to turn off We're rock headlines tune in watch TCG that's the Chertoff Group on Fox News Sunday meet the press this Sunday Sundays Sundays Sunday yeah This kind of booking is not it's not non-trivial media It's one of the big boys. It's probably got to be like the top dogs at Omnicron or something That's omni calm not only cry Omnichrome job Omni chron or WPP, or the other one? I think you want see in the news press releases Maybe it was a press release Let's see if it was a press release there should have been did some do somehow they always get their name snuck in there They can't quite

2:29:43 They can't quite keep their name out of it. You know we're really not paying attention to these guys, and it's all in plain sight There's Aiden you know he's part of this scam What is the AFCEA? I don't look it up. You look it up. I was gonna get that Katie Montgomery what is the AFCEA what is this let me check it out see what Katie does AFCEA is association Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association. Okay, so here's how it works... The Chertoff Group's Paul Schneider has been named the Armed Forces Group for Electronics Association Homeland Security Chairman! The Honorable Paul Schneider, Principal at the Chertoff Group has been selected- This is Rubicon. This IS Rubicon. Yeah everyone is making money but us What was the name of the company? Atlas?

2:30:44 Atlas? No, it was something else. Yeah yeah no it was atlas something two names Rubicon Atlas you watch I'll get it. I don't think it was Atlas. Yeah Mickey will know she's good at that uh Atlas oh come on. Katie Montgomery is the front person she actually works at the company She uses White House out of The White House Makes sense. I mean, here she is the PR woman for the company Miss Montgomery serves as a Deputy Assistant Secretary of Public Affairs at U.S Department of Homeland Security Obviously working for Chertoff back then Atlas McDowell Oh right! Atlas McDowell yeah God it's so close to home But she's not the one that did this there's no way No i don't think she did that She did... It's gotta be like It's one of the big boys Yeah I mean everybody got on everything and Hayden got out there on everything

2:31:45 Hayden I think has his own PR person. That's what we need yeah, we do well We you know people take they try and then they go to losers that we can't do anything for them They're like no No here's every single person who's ever tried to help us like he needed stir up some controversy Yeah, there's all call out somebody know part of this the scam and we refuse to play the game Yeah That's why we That's why we're the greatest podcast in New York with no money. Do you enjoy your getting by? How is your getting by going, John? It works for me. We eventually can go get by someplace else. Alright well were gonna go get by... We'll find out who this operation... Yeah. We'll find out who got all these bookings and continue... Well not just supporting it but continue bringing in the goods bring in the news I love it when you're sending us stuff

2:32:40 from all over and particularly you, yes you sitting in that government agency working for that arm of the government. You're not alone! There's lots of people like you, you're not crazy and most important we need you where you are stay where you are, stay calm and vent through us. It's okay, that is what we are here for. And we ask the question why the Chertoff Group has also acted as a strategic advisor on several M&A transactions totaling more than 2.7 billion dollars on deal value? We'll be talking about that in the second portion of your bi-weekly path to better mental health, a fuller life and exciting and fulfilling sexual relations on Sunday

2:33:29 In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where on Sunday we'll also mention the fact that Patient Zero AIDS patient zero was a publicity stunt. I'm John C. Dvorak and I'm Adam Currie talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n-a-d