Episode 499 · Thursday, 28 March 2013

Spam Horse

A massive cyberattack narrative collapses under scrutiny while the Eurozone uses Cyprus as a financial laboratory and the Supreme Court redefines privacy in the digital age.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 52m listen | 36 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 499

About this episode

The Spamhaus and Cyberbunker DDoS attack serves as a catalyst for a broader investigation into the spam blacklisting industry and the hyperbolic media narratives surrounding internet infrastructure. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak dissect how Cloudflare and the BBC utilized military terminology to frame a routine IP dispute as a global threat. The investigation reveals a potential protection racket within email filtering and explores the hidden connections between Cyberbunker and WikiLeaks that mainstream outlets ignored.

Financial instability takes center stage as the Cyprus bank bailout serves as a template for future Eurozone interventions, including the forced privatization of the Leviathan natural gas field. The Troika's seizure of deposits over 100,000 euros coincided with reports of Russian elites fleeing Nicosia on private jets. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court of the United States issued a landmark 5-4 ruling requiring warrants for drug-sniffing dogs on private property, while Justice Elena Kagan challenged the procreation-based arguments against the Defense of Marriage Act. In the UK, the suspicious death of Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky in Surrey raises questions about the official suicide narrative given his vocal opposition to Vladimir Putin.

Justice Antonin Scalia aligns with the liberal wing of the court to protect Fourth Amendment rights while the media dismisses the 10th Amendment as a legal technicality. The program also highlights the absurdity of Anderson Cooper diving with crocodiles for 60 Minutes and Jim Carrey's dated parody of gun owners. Executive Producers are knighted in a special ceremony ahead of the milestone 500th episode.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Gitmo Nation National Anthem and Episode 499 Introduction

The program opens with the Gitmo Nation National Anthem and the formal introduction of episode 499. Hosts Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak establish their locations in Austin, Texas, and Silicon Valley, California, respectively. They welcome the audience to the Thursday, March 28, 2013, broadcast.

gitmo nation· national anthem· episode 499· adam curry· john c. dvorak

00:00 Well then I'll just play a little sequence. Oh, we haven't done the anthem. Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem! And you may sing along as usual In the morning Gitmo nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and service in all lands and all ships at sea. From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond! We are had and distracted slaves hear our hyponation song! Legacy Media

00:53 If you wake up with the blues, trying to fill your day with news. There's one thing you must remember no agenda in the morning For a healthy balanced news diet try NoAgendaShow.com Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. Hit it! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It is Thursday March 28th 2013 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 4-9-er 9-er This is no agenda Awaiting the big one here at the Travis Heights hideout where SoCo meets MoFo in the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's about to rain but it's not raining... uhhhh It's not raining men! I'm John C. DuVois. And he's disappointed that its' not raining men

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Speculation on Natural Disasters and Global Financial Truth

A discussion ensues regarding the likelihood of a massive natural event or a staged terrorist attack occurring before the upcoming Sunday. The conversation links the timing of potential disasters to the signing of a federal appropriations bill and the financial instability in Cyprus. There is a suggestion that weather events are often used as a pretext for spending or to distract from financial truths.

sim city· natural disaster· appropriations bill· global warming· cyprus

01:51 No. John, really? He's a bunch of men falling out of the sky Is that your latent homosexual nature that just popped up all of sudden when you were confused You're thinking it's raining men Hallelujah I was thinking of raining something and the only thing i could think of was rain It was the song its raining men Hey so uh... I'm convinced now I think it's time I think it's time for a, uh... It's about time for a massive natural event. What do you think? Oh yeah! Yeah! Yep yep yep If this were My Sim City right? We have- Wait but we still have a date due on the... When is the next fake terrorist attack? That is sometime between now and Sunday

02:34 The terrorist attack? Yes. That's not six weeks. Yeah, no I think we're at... well we had a reset because you know someone messed it up so yeah that was like two weeks ago yeah So it's either between now and Sunday or in two weeks but the natural... Oh, go to two weeks. The um... Natural disaster. You know listen what we've got First of all, the appropriations bill is in and signed. Everybody's got their money so you know it just like everyone's ready to go and spend money on their buddies to save people with some natural disaster right? Everything is all set The weather has been crazy. Everything is nuts, so it will be easy to blame it on the weather or global warming or something There's way too much financial truth going on People are figuring out you know hey wait a minute You know everywhere in Euro land, Cyprus is part of Euro land

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

BBC Coverage of Spamhaus and Cyberbunker DDoS Attack

A critique of BBC News reporting focuses on a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack involving Spamhaus and Cyberbunker. The hosts argue that the BBC and other mainstream outlets use hyperbolic military terminology, such as "nuclear bomb" and "machine gun," to describe internet plumbing issues. They characterize the event as a PR effort by Cloudflare that was misrepresented by the media as a threat to the entire internet's "motorway system."

bbc· spamhaus· cyberbunker· cloudflare· ddos attack

05:20 And this is a very simple story, but for those of you who are kind of new to the program. A lot of you understand the internet or at least understand enough of it To be able to smell that something's wrong and when you ever read, you know like the New York Times which is all over this story completely factually wrong When you see the BBC no matter what the stories if you actually know something about if you know something about bicycles And they're doing a story on bicycles. You'd be like bullcrap That's not true. You just have to remember that every other story they're doing is probably just as incorrect

06:00 So this is a good one because a lot of people really understand how these things work and if you listen to this BBC report where they pull in the BBC expert to explain to us what is happening with this war, and you listened to the actual words they're using. You'll understand two things 1. This is a PR effort kind of gone wrong by Cloudflare and I'll explain why that isn't a moment But two, people in mainstream love using military terms for internet incidents. Like really crazy ones and that of course is in order to help ratchet up the cyber dome security farce which is going to be a financial bonanza for people in the business which we've already identified and of course we have no motivation to get off our asses start a company and make some money on it

06:56 We're just too lazy. So here is the... No, we're not lazy! We are too busy! True So he, well this was harsh to listen to and we'll have to comment on it as we listened to this BBC report hyping this kind of non-event but certainly lying or being factually grossly wrong. We'll keep across all the details coming out at the summit but let's talk about this George mentioned it I mentioned that millions of people around the world may be experiencing slow internet speed. Slow internet? Did you experience slow internet? I experienced some sluggishness with my email account over at Computer Time. Due to what's being called the biggest cyber attack in history, why? The reason well it is a spat between a web host company called Cyber Bunker and a UK based company called Spambles it's now reported

07:52 I think he says spam horse but it's actually Spam House. Spam Horse! Spam House is what it is, but he keeps saying yes spam a horse to be affecting the whole internet. The UK company SpamHorse is trying to stop... Spam Horse! But already it's like it's affecting the entire Internet. It's affecting his speech apparently. Cyberbunker from flooding the internet with unwanted spam email. Confused? Yeah, we are a little bit the BBC's technology correspondent Rory Kethlen-Jones is going to explain it to us. Rory great to have you with... Now he is the expert right? Is she speeding up because Skype has got a problem? Yes! It's kind of the war that's going on so this is so though he's bringing in the expert standing in front um in the BBC building they have this huge kind of pit where all the interactive people are standing and he's up on the balcony so he's the expert

08:45 I mean, Rory what is... break it down for us laymen. What's going on here? Who is attacking who? Well here's the deal Spam House is an organisation which runs basically a blacklist of companies that it accuses of sending spam across the internet. Its list is used by other companies around the world to try and stop the flow of unwanted emails and one of the company it listed, it's accused now amounting a huge cyber attack upon it. And this is called a distributed denial-of-service attack what it does basically is send vast amounts of traffic across the internet Took the site down. It's back up again, but all right already that took this site down is like no That's not how it works, okay? I'll let you simplify it But let the other douchebag even though really describe in detail sheer volume of the attack has caused real worries on The internet and some experts are saying why is spreading wider spread just a one company affected that if the virus affecting the whole sort of motorway system the motorway system John

09:47 It's affecting the motorway system of the internet is in danger of being clogged up. The motorway system of the internet? Yes, a particular way... Well here it comes he'll explain this In the whole structure of the way the address system on the internet works Oh I'm glad you said that because one technician described the technique which uses Okay i gotta back this up going crazy. Here we go, one technician so the technician has described it to him and I'd love to meet this technician because one technician described the technique which uses a known flaw, I'm assuming that's what you're referring to in the internet's basic plumbing and it describes what it is doing, what this cyber bunker is allegedly doing. It's using a machine gun mowing down a whole crowd and yet the intent is to try and kill just one person." I love this! This is the best they can do? But thats the BBC man They are saying...they are using a machine gun on the internet

10:41 trying to kill one person but they mow down the whole crowd. Exactly, that's exactly right. What often happens is attackers take over computers around the world sometimes without their owners or usually without their owners being aware use those computers to flood the target with traffic until they can take it no more. What's unusual about this... Stop! I can't take it no more! ...because these attacks are quite common, is the sheer volume of it and that the effect its having on the basic plumbing of internet and some experts are saying it highlighted a flaw in that plumbing which needs to be sorted. Floor whore. In reading it has been described like the internet version using a nuclear bomb

11:29 It's the way we went from machine gun to nuclear bomb I say! What BBC broadcast is this? This is the BBC News. This is the main BBC news. I've also been reading it, its been described like the internet version of using a nuclear bomb. You know again for us laymen you go hang on isn't there not a UN of the internet? Oh yes this is the solution Is there not a body or an organization that can prevent these two from going head-to-head or something like that? Well, there are various organizations but... I can't take it. So allow me to explain what has actually happened because that is why you listen too. The best podcast in the universe! Spamwhores is actually quite an appropriate name

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

The Spam Blacklisting Racket and Cloudflare's Role

The mechanics of the spam blacklisting industry are described as a "protection racket" where companies must pay to be whitelisted on major email services. The conflict between Cyberbunker and Spamhaus is explained as a dispute over IP blocking that affected legitimate users. Cloudflare's involvement is framed as a failed attempt to gain positive PR that ultimately slowed down service for their other clients.

spamhaus· blacklisting· whitelisting· cloudflare· isp

12:20 Um, and now there are spam houses one version. But there's, there is an incredible racket going on for white listing and blacklisting. Uh, in fact, if you have a company that sends out emails, You're pretty much going to be tied into one of these spam. Spam whores aren't even not the guys you necessarily pay them money too directly But there are companies who you will have to pay to be white listed on Hotmail, on Gmail, on Yahoo. And it can be quite costly because they literally looking at how much mail you send and if you really want some guaranteed delivery. And it's not really for sending out a marketing message, but like password retrievals and stuff like that so it's a real scam and the spam whores are involved in it. Now the spam whores, the way that company operates is they'll identify someone sending spam and the idea is okay, it's kind of the idea of having a blacklist and there's some kind of org behind it

13:18 But if the they then talk to the internet service provider that is providing the access to the spammer and If the ISP which you know a lot of these are like dynamically generated IP addresses They can't really figure out who's doing what or when it's very costly Then the spam whores will block entire networks, they'll block the entire ISP so that legitimate users then will not have their email arriving. So Spamwhore's not really a beloved company because of this practice and they are kind of jacking ISPs, and certainly ISPs from Eastern states. Now granted a lot of spam comes from Russia but it's not like Russia doesn't deserve to be on the internet and Spam Whores are the only guys who are allowed to determine that so Cyberbunker

14:14 Which is in the Netherlands actually, it's Dutch. There was some spam coming from one of their accounts completely understandable that happens someone using a machine and you know It happens from Amazon happens from all over the place Spam whores then blocked all of cyber bunker to put them on the blacklist And this was over just like nine or ten days ago This has been going on for quite awhile And then there was like this Skype list, you know like a conference call and a lot of people started joining in. They're like screw these spam whore guys we're gonna do it DDoS on them and it was quite a significant one but here's what went wrong Cloudflare

14:56 Then came in and said, oh don't worry we'll take care of it. We can handle it for you but they couldn't And this DDoS was so severe that is was not slowing down the internet but it was slowing down access to their other client stuff You know because they're basically like an Akamai And so that's when they had to say, oh you know this all well we're protecting it. We can stop at all but it's slowing down the internet They wanted to get some PR as being like the good guys But then the attack was so severe that it slowed down and their other clients started bitching like hey What the hell is going on? And that's really the simplicity of it I don't know if you're missing the bigger picture here. No, this is a technical issue. You tell us about the bigger picture.

15:44 cyber whores, whatever the name is. Spam whores! They were snappy. Now somebody said that Google gave them some backbone. Sure sure sure But meanwhile the Cyber Bunker Boys were just, they were damn near down as if the attack was against them and then gee no coincidence I don't know why this was never mentioned by anybody in any media outlet. They are the hosts of WikiLeaks! There you go now i understand the bigger picture but... And so the WikiLeaks thing seems to be have more to do with it and then if you read that too they have two press release

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

WikiLeaks Connection and Social Media Spook Activity

The discussion highlights that Cyberbunker reportedly hosts WikiLeaks, a detail allegedly ignored by mainstream media. One host describes receiving suspicious tweets from self-proclaimed cybersecurity experts after publishing an article on the topic. These interactions are characterized as "spook" activity intended to discredit the WikiLeaks connection by associating it with fringe conspiracy theories.

wikileaks· cyberbunker· twitter· spooks· kennedy assassination

14:56 Then came in and said, oh don't worry we'll take care of it. We can handle it for you but they couldn't And this DDoS was so severe that is was not slowing down the internet but it was slowing down access to their other client stuff You know because they're basically like an Akamai And so that's when they had to say, oh you know this all well we're protecting it. We can stop at all but it's slowing down the internet They wanted to get some PR as being like the good guys But then the attack was so severe that it slowed down and their other clients started bitching like hey What the hell is going on? And that's really the simplicity of it I don't know if you're missing the bigger picture here. No, this is a technical issue. You tell us about the bigger picture.

15:44 cyber whores, whatever the name is. Spam whores! They were snappy. Now somebody said that Google gave them some backbone. Sure sure sure But meanwhile the Cyber Bunker Boys were just, they were damn near down as if the attack was against them and then gee no coincidence I don't know why this was never mentioned by anybody in any media outlet. They are the hosts of WikiLeaks! There you go now i understand the bigger picture but... And so the WikiLeaks thing seems to be have more to do with it and then if you read that too they have two press release

16:21 I'm sorry, two press releases on their site. One talking about the spam whores being a blackmailing operation but you know in kind of a legal sense but it's the protection racket. Hey, hey, you don't want no spams! Yeah, you wanna get through? So and then they also mentioned that guess they had... They are literally in a bunker Yes, a Dutch former bunker from World War II. Yeah it's like with the you can't get into the place if you wanted to. That's marketing! I love it yeah there's one of those in Switzerland they're inside of a mountain. Is that Switzerland? That's where WikiLeaks went is it was Norway or something or Denmark well the big mountain

17:09 retreat that nobody can get into is in Switzerland and it's mostly used for backups. People want to do archive their corporate records they put inside this mountain and you can't, you can drop a bomb supposedly on the mountain and they're still safe at what point? At that point your backup will be so useful. What difference does it make? Get a thumb drive people So I think the whole thing, because I pointed this out in a column about the WikiLeaks angle which is why are these people actually the site that's having trouble. And then I got a bunch of tweets out of the blue and I knew it was right by the tweets I got which I also blocked every one of these idiots

17:52 but there were these screwball tweets each one of the guys had about 175 followers and they're all cyber security experts and they all work to different companies supposedly I didn't do any background research on, but they all look like spooks to me. And they are tweeting you? They were all tweeting me saying oh well CyberBunker must be responsible for the Kennedy assassination what other conspiracies do have for me? Really? Yeah, I got one saying they were responsible for killing Kennedy. Wait a minute... Let me find these tweets Did anyone call you Hitler at any point? No, no. The Hitler thing they didn't... They dropped it but they said it was a... Oh are they blaming him for... They're blaming him anyway I can't remember the ones besides Kennedy but every normal conspiracy theory they said oh Dvorak thinks cyber bunker did it or spam house or whatever I don't know how they phrased it But as soon as I got those tweets out of the blue and then follow me

18:50 Don't know you know I guess they just jumped on me in Twitter, and I said okay great So but this was after you published the article right yeah Of course of course so bang-bang it's techno experts man This is like the guys who come in and with them with the root with a negative review on the book that tells It like it is exactly if you look at all the reviews That's all they do as they seek out anything that like You know says something bad about the CIA And they're all over it Okay. Here it is, David Rommerstein apparently at the Real Dvorak has become the Larry King of tech media just saying random rambling things Let me see who this guy is... 130 followers yep spook okay let's see the next one oh wait a minute what does he his MTA Ops? What is he? MTA Ops at Living Social and Nerd of Mid- He's a lead engineer MTA ops

19:47 Hmm co-opted Brian McNett that's oh yeah, that's a good one. Brian McNett Yeah at the real Dvorak next we'll be hearing how spam house shot the Kennedy's kidnapped the Lindbergh baby and sank the Titanic See Brian McNett very funny Oh here it is Brian McNett I stopped spam for living I play synths and hunt mushrooms for fun okey dokey 115 followers another winner I know, they kind of stand out like a sore thumb. No evidence beyond their own statements that CyberBunker ever hosted WikiLeaks So anyways...I don't like the spam whores! Because i remember when we started with Mevio or Podshow and all of sudden we had a registration system and people needed to get a registration email or verification email And it was just getting willy nilly blocked and that's when the protection racket came in It was $250k dollars a year

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Personal Email Server Management and School Curriculums

The conversation turns to the technical challenges of managing private email servers to avoid blacklists and commercial fees. One host describes using a Mac Mini server with custom Thunderbird rules and SquirrelMail to filter spam. This leads to a critique of modern education, suggesting that schools should teach practical skills like compiling Linux kernels and setting up servers instead of current social curricula.

mailchimp· thunderbird· mac mini server· linux kernel· squirrelmail

20:47 I didn't know it was that high. Yeah, and that was a deal because they were Sequoia company That was the deal! You got a deal? Well i'm sure...I haven't talked to the people at MailChimp who I do my emailing through about this yeah well but you know they have to have a For example when I had this one time I had a complete failure of any of a mailing hmm and I couldn't figure out why But then I finally figured out why you put it. I turned off the reader The re what's a call when you send it to one address and that bounces into somebody else the reply to no, no redirect yeah, I turned off redirects so when they were in the mail which would normally be redirected through MailChimp So they can do accounting all right, right? Right and immediately you got you got blocked he got tagged oh

21:44 Yeah, because they didn't have enough MailChimp action. I guess it is what's this? I don't know it doesn't look like anything block it well anyway III will say that cyber bunker of course did land on the moon and I totally believe in Hilarious I tell you, but it's important that people of course we laugh. But this is the BBC and if you read the New York Times two days in a row they're spouting this just blather Just total bullcrap because they don't know what their talking about They really don't understand You know if anyone is doing anything in this The heroes are at the exchanges

22:23 You know the guys who are running the real routers, you know the BGP stuff that is at the exchanges and that's not a stock exchange. That's an internet exchange Those are the guys who really managing all this stuff And they're the heroes no one interviews them Now let's talk to the PR guy from Spamwhores Yeah, or some other PR guy from some... It's all. But this is a whole racket which I've been you know like the Dvorak.org blog was always getting blocked here and there and i had to do a lot of research to figure out who was doing it as always one of these companies that puts up blacklists yeah And it's like why am I on the blacklist?

23:08 I mean it's just a blog for God sake and you know, it's always... You can't figure out who they are. No, no. You can't get ahold of anybody It's like But this is People should stop using these blacklists from these people Well just either stop using email or you know Get to team up with the small company that runs their own servers Don't be using all those other crap That's how we used to do it Remember? We used have an ISP And he was like a local guy Yeah, they call hey man. Hey man. My email is not working don't worry I'll fix it one second Okay, you can have that with my guy yeah you do yeah But that guy's probably not taking new clients uh I think he is oh really? Yeah okay so big in the cc a Cty me calm and And I run my own mail server and I'm very happy with that very happy and you're not corrupted No mm-hmm at all

24:11 Because you probably do block your spam with any technique at all You know I actually if you look at the because I just I just bought a Mac mini server and it literally has everything kind of right in there and Just started on that mini. Yeah, max server server OS X Mac mini server It has everything kind of in there including the same I feel the same way. So it does have spam whores in there as a choice, and I think it may be by default But I didn't choose to use that you know It's fun so what I what I actually have done and sounds. It's kind of a crazy way to do it but I dislike all these

25:06 all these typical filters is I've set up on the server, there's an account that's running and actually have Thunderbird running with custom mail rules that I've created over time. So it is a lot of stuff should be blocked at the server end and obviously there's some stuff if you can't authenticate blocks in this low lower level SMTP stuff that does but I really kind of built my own mill rules over time and I just have a copy of Thunderbird running all the time, filtering that out. And then I get it through IMAP so it kind of works It's...it's a little more than most people will do, I'm sure

25:47 But actually with most of these systems if you wanted to put the effort into it, you could create a filtering system yourself. Yeah Which would be very effective specifically for you And also in SquirrelMail or on OSX... no not SquirrelMail, maybe it is SquirrelMail You can actually set up server-side rules I've also set up a number of those so it's it's you know, yeah It takes a little work. But you know what? What are you teaching your kids at school? You're teaching them nothing of any use that you should when kids go to school They should be taught how to compile a kernel a Linux kernel just just something do it Just as seen it setup a mail server setup a web server now Set up a porn site and we these are the things that will useful for for kids What are we teaching them in school?

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Defense of Marriage Act and Dutch Perspectives

The Supreme Court's review of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is discussed, noting that Bill Clinton originally signed the act into law. A Dutch writer's surprise at this fact serves as a jumping-off point for a discussion on how the U.S. Constitution is misunderstood abroad. The hosts argue that many modern debates involve issues that fall outside the original scope of the Constitution.

doma· bill clinton· supreme court· constitution· netherlands

26:38 to have black history. Yeah, well so of course in the United States of Gitmo Nation we have the big Defense of Marriage Act that's in the Supreme Court and I'd like to... Well there are actually two things running, and again i can't see when one starts with the other begins and the other ends. Anyway this DOMA is being discussed as so is a Prop 8 situation California well this is very interesting because people in United States don't understand how it works now operates But outside of the United States, they really have no idea. And we have a guest and she's actually leaving tomorrow but our guest from the Netherlands... She is a writer, she writes for magazines and by the way, a lot of insights she gives me like you know that she gets double edited because she always trying to slip kind of like

27:32 Crackpot stuff through and they won't have it in the advertise I mean if you really want to talk to any writer who writes for a mainstream magazine They'll tell you that. You can't do anything that might even remotely piss off the advertisers, and so she's well-read And and so then you said oh wow because of the way you see the news like all of you know tomorrow We're gonna wake up, and did you can marry anything? I'm gonna marry this chair you know that's how it's going to roll here no it's not what's gonna happen and I said do you know that the DOMA, the Defense of Marriage Act. Do you know that Bill Clinton signed that into law? And her head went what so yeah Bill Clinton uh and now he's rescinding on that she says really oh easy for you easy to rescind on after your out but but what was interesting is she said that was like something...I thought

28:27 Yeah, but she's smart man. But this is how... Nobody in Holland is going to even understand the basics of our Constitution and how simple it is And the fact is most of these things are outside the Constitution That's why they're always debating whether they're allowed by the Constitution in these court situations I know but people so don't understand What what is good, but also this is how we portrayed get rid of our guns well It's funny. It's funny you bring that up because You know Nancy Pelosi's daughter Alexandra Who I'm starting to grow a dislike for not that ever liked her But like it's like kind of a severe thing she was on Pierce Moran and

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Alexandra Pelosi Interview and National Criticism

An interview with Alexandra Pelosi on Piers Morgan's show is analyzed, specifically her comments regarding the "sick" nature of the United States following the Sandy Hook shooting. The hosts criticize her for using her Dutch husband's negative views of America to support her documentary. They contrast the safety and social issues of Amsterdam with those of the U.S., defending the country against Pelosi's characterization.

alexandra pelosi· piers morgan· sandy hook· amsterdam· gun control

29:10 And she did a documentary, she's promoting a documentary about the New Jersey... I think it was the governor who uh... Oh she is the one who went into deep south and found every toothless guy she could in Mississippi. Yes yes! And made it look like the whole state is a bunch of toothless dicks. Yes so... I don't know if I would like to screw my dog when my wife not around Opening of the show. Let me just take the time code okay So she's on with the governor who came out as gay. Remember that? He was there with his wife and he resigned, it was like this whole big deal That was maybe 10 years ago I think so she's done a documentary on him Her husband is Dutch

29:49 And so Pierce brings up, you know of course his main topic about Newtown Connecticut and Yeah I'm sure his ratings are skyrocketing from this theme of his. And uh... and i think that there was like some story although not sure if it's really been corroborated the two guys came up said with a lady with a stroller and say give us your money no and then they shot the infant in the head You didn't hear the story? No, it sounds like a croc to me. But listen to what Pelosi daughter of the biggest reptile in DC had to say... To me that is getting worse I don't know what you think about this bit and by the way so here's a British guy who they're about to talk about a Dutch guys opinion of our country

30:38 This seems like an escalation in the desensitizing of these kids. Adam Lanzer at Sandy Hook to speak up... No, this is just how he talks. He talks like this a little bit. ...to walk into the classroom of first graders and just annihilate them... I love the words. A kid who's been charged with this offense to walk up to a baby in a stroller and shoot a bullet in its head. It seems to me that sort of dehumanizing process has gone on here that removes any sense of normal behavior I thought you were taking it to the place of redemption. Now by the way, what happened here is they have a script for this interview

31:15 and she totally went off script. Yeah, well she totally misunderstood Oh, she essentially lost... She lost his train of thought and she's actually going to say that right now I thought you were gonna talk about Tiger Woods which he didn't mention in the whole lead up to this so it just... This is insane These shows are highly scripted by the way yeah very very scripted Because your starting with Tiger Woods and i thought your gonna ask Jim if these people deserved redemption Well im gonna come to that I'm going to come back to that part of the script. Well, hold on... I'm not ready but i suppose that exercise over your show if you let her say it. And I will and I will tell you that my husband is Dutch and he watches every night and says this is sick this country is sick and its a disease and sad that you know it's great that you can say it but that the whole world doesn't see it

32:02 But if you get a class, I have a first grader. If you line up their class of 20 kids and they get what happened in San Diego and that doesn't change this country then you have to realize there's something really sick and disgusting about this country You're not allowed to say that in America In America you just say USA chant This is the greatest country on earth And that's all your'e allowed to say True on the USA Which by the way your mom would be the number one douche bag doing that But why don't you take your Dutch husband and put him on a plane, and send him back to Deutchland where it's so much better. Where let me see... He was not sick in disgust is what she called it? Yeah! Where you make a movie against just a movie about religion and then your head gets cut off and you get gunned down in the street

32:54 How about that? Or where... Just walk around Amsterdam, tell me how safe you feel as a woman or as a gay man. Or woman. Tell me how safe you feel in that un-sick country! The world is sick, lady! Like this script thing She's like say where I thought you're gonna be on this item to talk about yeah Dude, we had a one of there. We should remind This is we've talked about this maybe two or three years ago? We had one of the producers that used to work in The McLaughlin Report And he says that entire show is completely scripted right right including what people say and how they say it, and how they get interrupted. And I'd like to remind people that not only is this podcast not scripted...I'll take it one step further we do not speak to each other outside of the 15 minutes before we start the show when were just like getting tea in playing slide whistle during the show and then after the show where we discuss essentially the artwork, the title of the show

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Podcast Production Transparency and Supreme Court Media

The hosts emphasize the unscripted nature of their podcast, contrasting it with highly produced shows like The McLaughlin Report. They also discuss the lack of cameras in the Supreme Court, speculating that the justices prefer audio-only recordings to maintain a specific public image and avoid the pressures of being "camera ready."

mclaughlin report· supreme court· podcasting· transparency· cameras

33:55 If John's gonna be on Twit, I try and rile him up. Try to say crazy crap on the show and that rarely works by the way And that is about it! That is why we are...I think its part of our success and people still sometimes don't even believe that No I know because many of our clips since were essentially not in the same exact wavelength or not even in the same part of the country But we we watch the same sources even though there's more sources than we can actually watch and we switch around a lot Yeah, but we come we find the same kinds of stories And so will have complimentary clips which makes it look rehearsed because you know You'll say something I got boom and then I got one in there Then you've got a topper that kind of thing now. I did have one clip from the Supreme Court discussions Which I believe Kagan had the best line and apparently these these discussions about gay marriage

34:49 Doma and Prop 8 are packing them in unlike most Supreme Court cases. this great debate which is it's grandiose one way or the other but there's no video, it's only audio and its like a radio play. I mean you've got the audience hooting and hollering and laughing and I like it! I enjoy it but why? No cameras in the Supreme Court what is the thinking behind that they're not very attractive people okay right that would make sense so anyway... They are not camera ready They don't want to put makeup on them and be tempted too Have we seen Ginsberg legs?

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Justice Kagan's Procreation Argument in DOMA Case

Justice Elena Kagan's questioning during the DOMA hearings is highlighted, specifically her hypothetical regarding marriage licenses for people over age 55. The argument challenges the notion that marriage is strictly for procreation. The hosts react to the courtroom's laughter and the absurdity of the government's interest in regulating biological functions through legal marriage.

elena kagan· supreme court· doma· procreation· marriage licenses

35:33 So they were getting big laughs and Kagan had the best line I have it here, getting big laughs in the Supreme Court. And she's played to the audience and got that big laugh and their whole place was happy as a clam. Suppose if the state said... Hold on stop stop I have to set it up. This is the argument that she's attacking which is that the reason you don't have gay marriage and this guy's anti-gay marriage, is because there's no procreation It's all about procreation That's what the whole game is And so now hit it again Because we think that the focus of marriage really should be on procreation We're not going to give marriage licenses anymore to any couple where both people are over the age of 55

36:19 Would that be constitutional? No, your honor. It would not be constitutional because that's the same state interest I would think you know if you're over the age of 55 You don't help us serve the government's interest in regulating procreation through marriage By the way when i heard that I was like I'm listening to the giant's joint voice system! You are not helpful to your government. You are not procreating stay inside So why is that different Your Honor, even with respect to couples over the age of 55 it is very rare that both couples, both parties to the couple are infertile. And a traditional American norm... No really because if a couple I can just assure you if both the woman and man are over the age of 55 there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage

37:12 We are so messed up in our head in this country about penis, vagina boobies nipples ass you know anything that has to do with the human body because that's not laughter let's just nervous laughter John. That's a nervous humor. I think she got the big laugh. Yeah but peep yeah it's a punchline but it's just so... No you'd think it was sad. It was teary. Oh my goodness! This is like me having sex and kids once I assure you when you put it in there nothing will come out. Like, ugh really? By the way all right so that's all you got for the...I had all those clips and i said you know this is not that interesting It's going to be easier to deconstructing the results rather than picking up these one-liners and these coy arguments and they're arguments are interesting I have to say anyway And I always enjoyed by the way did listen to the Supreme Court case about the dogs

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Supreme Court Ruling on Drug-Sniffing Dogs

The Supreme Court's 5-4 decision requiring police to obtain a warrant before using drug-sniffing dogs on a suspect's property is discussed. Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the majority opinion, which the hosts find notable for its alignment with liberal justices. They argue that the ruling is a victory for Fourth Amendment protections against illegal searches.

antonin scalia· supreme court· fourth amendment· search warrant· drug dogs

38:13 and I because I but it's only fascinating ended in the course of time to i don't know what about the dogs well place sniffered dogs decision this is all this was also in the Supreme Court police will have to get a warrant from now on before they bring drug-sniffing dogs on a suspect's property right on Supreme Court handed down that decision today five two four Justice Anthony Scalia wrote the majority opinion for a conservative liberal combination. He found that using sniffer dogs without a warrant violates Fourth Amendment protection against illegal search and search. Absolutely, because we know the dogs lie!

38:49 Yeah, there's that too. The dogs lie! Get the dogs away. That's the point and apparently it was only the liberal part of the court that thought this was the way to go and all the conservatives said, yeah its fine let the dogs come on the property What difference does it make? They're not going inside and that was their basic argument but Scalia said, ah screw then he flipped. And became a modern day... and the liberals said oh you can write the decision because you're more erudite than we are! Erudite. So they gave him this thing to write Hey um just thinking back to that comment I was kind of ageist You know it's also like you know your 55 like your just don't have sex you're just useless

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

DOMA and the 10th Amendment Technicality

A segment from MSNBC is criticized for referring to "states' rights" as a "legal technicality" in the context of the DOMA debate. The hosts argue that this framing is a form of media programming designed to diminish the importance of the 10th Amendment. They contend that the federal government's involvement in marriage definitions is a secondary issue to the constitutional authority of individual states.

doma· msnbc· states' rights· 10th amendment· equal protection

39:34 It is a good point. You know it's an ages coming I'm just think cuz I'm like hey wait a minute that's only like seven years from now six screw that and my rearview mirror And objects in the rear view mirror may seem closer than they appear or something like that well, I only caught one thing about this whole Doma and of course This really means nothing. So the Supreme Court could strike it down because the way it works, and still works I believe in these United States is that states write issues. States determine their own laws in this regard and the federal government pretty much has nothing to do with it but I caught on MSNBC

40:24 on the morning show program they had some guests on I guess legal experts and and the well listen to it see if you hear the same thing i heard the doma debate just reading about it would appear that's done but they're gonna just throw out it sounds like a bit interesting thing is it doesn't sound like they're going to throw it out because they think that its unconstitutional on an equal protection basis It sounds like if they toss out DOMA it's because of a legal technicality, because it tramples on states' rights. States' rights is a legal technicality apparently. What did he say? A legal technicality?! Just the way the system works! What is wrong with these people!? It's just minor little... The 10th Amendment is just a legal technicality

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Contributions and Knighting Ceremony

A lengthy segment is dedicated to acknowledging executive producers and donors ahead of the 500th episode. Several individuals are granted the title of "Instant Knight" or "Dame" for their $1,000 contributions. The hosts read notes from listeners, grant "karma," and discuss the "value-for-value" model that sustains the show without traditional advertising.

knighthood· value-for-value· 500th episode· karma· donations

41:15 But this is how we're being programmed. This is how we're being programmed and I'm going to rescind to you, I will rescind and repent that I was unawares...and I think that's correct with the S of the cutting in line phenomenon Which now is confirmed as also taking place in Texas although I still have yet to receive confirmation or empirical proof myself that it's happening in Austin. You'll never see it because you're an older guy and they are going to see you, but they aren't going to do it In fact if you saw the second batch of clips I have one clip which I want to discuss Although we can discuss it after taking a number of executive producers who are coming in because we have show 500 coming up next Sunday this coming Sunday, let's do that your Sunday And I want to get these out of the way because there's a lot of them and we want to make sure everyone gets A good. Thank you yes for helping us celebrate and this is really live 100 shows and this is really part of the pre celebratory

42:16 so festivities yeah I which so we have a lot we had it that couple people to of our producers came in as instant nights Wow also each is a Gerard how do you pronounce this in Dutch Boris Boers here are the boors is how I'd pronounce it here art here at worse isn't bores like one of the great great dutch names um well you know that there's this is all this stuff change South Africa Oh, the Boers. You're right! And he's... well it makes sense he is from the south of Holland Limburg Sittard Yeah in fact I think he is yeah and he sent us no note that we could find and looked and looked Really? and uh... and he probably was a relative somebody that was in the boer war I would think yeah come convinced that was like a major major deal but anyway

43:13 South, you would recognize it being the south but we also have a guy from the south of the USA Paxton Sanders from Madison Alabama and he says he wants to thank us for all the entertainment information only one request karma for his family absolutely happy to hand that out and deserve it my friend. You've got Karma That's right I was just QSOing with uh with Alabama you were qso'ing? With Alabama yeah 10-4. No, on the CW's my friend You were on the CW? Yeah with my paddle and everything I'm it so... Do you have a paddle? I have an iambic paddle So I met with the CEO of Roku Oh yeah And he somehow got off the track because he is interested in a bunch of things that I am interested like He has, he's getting chickens I think I talked him into getting a c band dish

44:07 Which he wants in his front yard in Palo Alto, which I don't think is gonna get away with it Did did he say hey that no agenda show was always on the favorite list on Roku? Did you mention that did he bring it up my brought it up and he didn't know anything He said that's great. He doesn't use his own stuff You know he doesn't know what a Roku Searching you've just type into agenda anyway the but I I think I talked him into becoming a ham great Who's the guy that started Tandem Computers? Oh, I don't remember his name. So he's a ham and he lives in Austin and I was introduced via email... He's like a billionaire still probably

44:51 And he's like, I can't get rid of the money fast enough. Well i'm gonna try and help him Yeah make him listen to the no agenda show We need your little device we need an endowment but he's a ham He's like hey man let's have some coffee Like cool sure These poor guys they're not in the business anymore so they're just bored and our scientist friend Russell professor russell from The Brain guy yeah I don't know what we said exactly, but i think he's trying to take my wife away from me now. I swear to god! He's like... He's letting her photograph him. No seriously?

45:31 He's like, so first he was allowed to photograph the entire brain collection with and the pictures are I get I see what no it's like would you like to see the mummies we have in the basement oh hmm let's meet him would you like to see a mummy bed? Let's meet in Florence. I know the friends there at the At the museum. I'm sure I can get you to see to photograph some of this special exhibits This guy is totally stealing my wife He's probably thinking about it. Yeah, I was probably from the last show you made some indication that you might want to go gay. What? That was my opportunity! I don't remember that. I do. Kobe hung in Parts Unknown he says

46:23 He gave us $5.80 for the producers of the show and he says it's been 58 shows since I last donated so here is ten dollars for each of them! Thank you See ya at The Round Table Adios mofos, yeah You should be at night Well not Sunday if he is John White Jackson Tennessee 53261 In honor of the upcoming 500th episode of The Best Podcast in Universe I've decided to speed up my knighthood I would like the title to be Sir Dr Sharky Please douche then de-douche my senators Alexander and Corker and send some karma in an ITM. So he wants to douche, and then dedouche? Yeah Okay well we can do that. You've been de-douched! In the morning you've got karma Let me just make sure I've got uh... because JC never puts that down when someone wants a title

47:19 So he wants to be Sir Dr. Sharky, okay I got it. Hyperware Technologies on behalf of Sir David Foley and Los Gatos the lost cat no it's actually the cat the cats 500 from sir david foley get coins 500 get coins for the best podcast in the universe hey shoot hold on a second stop stop stop stop stop let me do it real quick before anyone else does it oh my god please tell me this is available I can't go fast enough. Getcoin... Well, you do it while we're going on. Hold on, hold on! I got getcoin dot com Let me see if i can register How funny is that? You could have a coin with like a dude all messed up looking? How funny is that? Yeah, and its worth a lot of money. Getcoin dot- let me see if I can get it

48:09 What? Ah, crap. Somebody has Gitcoin? No something's messing up hold on let me get... Oh you're killing the show you're killing the pace and a flow here but if you don't do this then someone else will get it buh-dup buh-dup buh-dup They would immediately okay now No good. Someone has Gitcoin? They do, but what about Git Dash coins? No! We're not going to do dashes... The best podcast in the universe he says, he wants some karma Okay absolutely sorry about interrupting the flow there You've got karma Christopher Roche in Tampa Florida the home of the best lap dancers in the world. Thank you guys for the hours of entertainment while being broke and unemployed now that I'm a productive wage slave, I can provide value for value. Nice! I only ask for little karma to keep prosperity going shooting for the knighthood by the end of year. That's very awesome and thank you for remembering us in your prosperous times

49:08 Don't worry, it'll swing back. Not for a while. No because he got karma. Keith Chamberlain in Medford Oregon I love the financial cliff scream please play! I fear it will disappear from disuse. I need karma. Karma for everyone please $500 You've got karma That could be to take the place of that what's the name of that scream everyone uses all their movies just cause its funny? To use it? I don't know Something in the chat room will tell you. Francine Hardaway, Dame Francine as a matter of fact... No! She's moving up a notch Yeah but she is now Dame Francine You don't give them the title during the reading Right? Yep

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50:39 I had since tried a few news review type podcasts or competition, albeit unsuccessfully. A few months ago producer Michael Dunn hit me in the mouth before i had my first NA show listen and thought it might be off like the NPR podcast on the media. Yeah its just like that! The so-called media scrutiny effort of our national treasure is rubbish compared to the top notch media deconstruction of the No Agenda show. Here's some value for your valuable insights, 313 13 from a 33 year old." Cheers Dave in Pittsburgh Thank you very much Dave that's very cool and but I think it's a good way to propagate this show You can just say to people it's almost like NPRs on the media Yeah almost Not quite

51:29 I've never listened to on the media. Don't think oh yeah, no Maybe I have it's like a weekend show I've been on on the media Oh you have yeah when when we first started with podcasting huh? I should find that they're like wow this is crazy What are you thinking who cares so what they said I'm paraphrasing. I should find it. Hank in Kew Gardens, New York 313 13 these are all 313 13 by the way. I love you and what you've done for myself and all the other producers nights of dames dukes and grandukes hookers rent boys and wenches and anyone else i'm leaving out keep on trucking I love a deducing jobs karma

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53:02 The show has been outstanding in the past few weeks. Can I get a shut up science chemtrails karma? Sure, only if you read the outstanding the way he actually wrote it. The show has been OUTING! Shut up already... Science Chemtrails You've got Karma. Jake Shearer and Crystal Minnesota Nuts Nuts Jake, sure. This is my first donation after listening to more from Ordinary Yard and never want to be seen as a mooch so I was always trying to save up to being an instant knight but something always came up So people, my message to you and myself is donate what you can monthly By the way it adds up to becoming good Becoming an Instant Knight is not that easy

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58:11 Park Alberta happy fire from the show been a listener since show number one been quite the ride keep hitting those media brain dead zombies in the mouth and keep going on for another 500 episodes he needs a general-purpose karma shot you sir Rob you've got karma Sean Noonan in LeClaire, Iowa this is to help me get caught up for all the shows I have screwed you over on I hope one day to join the roundtable. I'm in a process of moving to a joint account with my hot fiancé, Amy and as soon as that is done i will set up monthly donations so this problem does not occur again. A de-douching would be an order." Yes! And send pictures... You've been de-douched. You know that? I got an email yesterday from one of our producers female and it was a picture her and her husband but they're starting a t-shirt business for tall men

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1:00:49 Well, she douchebagged him anyway. It's been done! There is nothing we can't undo it I think i can dedouche No but I think she has to request that She didn't ask for a dedouching Okay If you were up to me...I'm a little more lenient but yeah You have seniority They are going to have their own little fight amongst themselves You have seniority? You have seniority?! See how it works out Alright, I am done Mr. Holkinson in Selkirk Manitoba $200 and he'll be the one and only associate executive producer, donor Lorne Holkinson, Lorne Holkinson Selkirk Manitoba Canada. Note hey Elmira and Patty this donation is on my behalf of my father which I had called out as a douchebag over year ago even

1:01:36 He would like to the dedouche and deserves a shot of karma. Lauren also adds, you two are truly the guardians of reality don't ever stop! The world needs you Sir Lucas. That's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said I think. It is very nice in fact and... Guardians of reality. That is my new one! This is it, this is like so what do you do Adam? I am a guardian of reality How does it sound? I like it. I think it sounds good, yeah. Yeah because people are gonna go oh... Oh step next to this is like putting a mask on or have a step backwards step backwards You've been D-douche you've got car

1:02:28 karma. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak we are guardians of reality hold on almost thank everybody who helps us and this is a celebration show so it's gonna have a lot of donors and we appreciate this to an extreme but want to remind people that the show 500 is on Sunday you want to help us then uh... you can go to the work that org slash and a channel of art dot com slash any no agenda show there's a donate button on their also know generation dot com and i guess eric's now at the point where he wants to plug in the constitution that he's cranked out and i'd think he has a special website for tonight thank you have to send it to me will play think its constitution dot nor did the nation dot com

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Animal Hoarding Remix and Media Tropes

A comedic remix of a reality television show about animal hoarding is played, featuring a "cat lady" and her family. The hosts use the clip to demonstrate the use of "rim shots" in production to highlight absurd dialogue. This leads to a brief discussion on the rise of "Machiavellian women" in media and entertainment.

animal hoarding· rim shot· remix· cat lady· machiavellian woman

1:03:16 Isn't that what it is? It could be. Yeah, well you should definitely people should go check that out and see what he's up to because this is really a very nice thing that he's doing That's warm, hot, gross baby. I'm Adam Curry and I'm John Cena 4Hack And we're having lots of fun here on Noah's JetLog Hey! Just a little ditty for ya Who did that ditty? One of our producers, people are sending stuff all the time I like the one hot brolf baby. I think that's kind of new. Let me play that again, i kinda like it. That's one hot brolf baby. We are officially now where the show is getting remixed So I have a couple of- Wait wait before we get there I just need to tell the slaves to shut up Can we do that? Yeah we have to do that. So please you have to do something above all and let us always propagate the formula Our formula is this...we go out, we hit people in the mouth

1:04:21 Hey! Sleep! Shut up, sleep. No, that's a funny idea though. I was typing up the search and instead of writing the word I wanted, I typed in spam. You know that spam? Remember Spam Radio? It's still around. That was like a big thing

1:05:02 Um, and it basically just takes spam and reads it on the stream. I think uh... Well this could be, I think maybe the name of this animal hoarding. Whatever the case is...I listened to an episode it was a cat lady and there was all and you had the mom who kept helping the cat lady And then you had that daughter who's trying to get the mom from helping the cat lady whose grandma and grandma's a wreck, and she has 200 cats. And all she does is bite the cats. Every time she talks, she always has a little jab that she likes to give the family.

1:05:45 Her fault she's got 200 cats, it's their fault. So I decided to do a remix since you brought it up because there is always something you can do to add a little zinger to make somebody's commentary a little better and so we can play the two examples that I have here. There's Cat Lady 1 How many cats do we have, Grandma? I don't know. You wanna try to count them or you can't? They all still long enough... I don't know, Grandma. We all know this has gotten so out of control My worst fear is that we're not gonna hear from you for three days. We're gonna come looking for you And what are we gonna find? You guys go longer than that without calling me

1:06:27 So there's always room for a rim shot. Did you put the rim shot? Did you actually produce this? Yes! Can I do two? Like I said, it was just a mix. I'm trying to liven the show up so a rim shot seems appropriate Yeah after 500 episodes now finally he's like I'm so bored of this i gotta do a rimshot let me guess Plus I am a rimshot guy Anyway play Cat Lady 2 when we see that same sort of thing where she leads us with a wonderful punchline Not one person could take care of this many animals. This house is unlivable for one cat, let alone 200 I'm guessing... Well these were throwaways people threw them away. Well grandma! Other than right now have no reason to get up in the morning. I don't want you to be lonely. I know that they're the reason why you get up. I know that love for animals but this is not fair. This isn't fair to them. Well then why don't we have me put down?

1:07:26 You know, I think my grandmother actually said that at one point. I can recall! I think she said that... Alright, that's enough of this silliness Please I'm killing you. Yeah, there's only had the two all right? I gotta go to have me put down these women this is ridiculous Wow you know what let's just take up sewing lady yeah You know that you would think we talked about this on on previous show like this the mocked of the rise of the Machiavellian mock of Machiavellian woman and that you haven't you have a clip I do

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Female Viagra and Sexism on CNN

The hosts critique a CNN segment hosted by Jake Tapper regarding the 15th anniversary of Viagra and the development of a "female Viagra." They argue that the expert's advice—suggesting men should "load the dishwasher" to increase female desire—is sexist and reductive. The discussion highlights the double standards in how male and female sexuality are portrayed in mainstream news.

jake tapper· cnn· female viagra· dr. wendy walsh· sexism

1:08:03 of a Machiavellian woman. Do you have one? No, well I do have one...well kind of not really You know what- I do have a funny clip that's kinda- No no no no enough with the funny clips we gotta pace yourself. Alright go on give me what ya got. Pace yourself! So um there all of a sudden there was all this talk about a Viagra pill for women And it's a, and you know Jake Tapper. Didn't Jake Tapper work for ABC? Did he get hired for CNN that was he at I thought it was in the network before I guess not. No, Jake Tapper was one of the spokes holes for The Washington, uh for with the White House Oh! Of course thats why hes now a news guy on CNN makes sense no but he, no hes always been a news guy but for different organization

1:08:48 Well, you were sounds... okay. I'll consult the book of knowledge. Yeah, consult the book of knowledge if you don't mind. Okay So while you're doing that so Jake Tapper has a new show on CNN and of course they got to snazz it up And so there's this report about Viagra for women. I'm like why is this happening? And I saw it on other channels And of course, you know some pieces all PR as usual. There's no movie involved in this case but the PR is that Viagra has officially been on the market for 15 years and so Jake brings on these CNN expert who they happen to have and What's her name?

1:09:32 Tapper's been good morning America nightline. See he was ABC. He never worked for the White House that I can see yeah no he was a he was at the White House correspondent yeah right from ABC. That's right, I'm was right he was ABC. You were totally right go on. So he brings on the CNN medical expert to talk about the Viagra for women And, uh... well I've- Isn't that called Spanish fly? Obviously there are specific examples of couples where women have a higher desire. And so what are we really trying to do here make women's sexuality mirror men's so that we can make man happy

1:10:10 So this is the level, right? That's interesting. So they took it to a whole wrong direction. Oh no! It gets worse. Alright so lastly your suggestion seems would be if there is a woman who has a problem with sexual dysfunction its probably in her mind and she should see a therapist It's a bit about it could be there certainly physiological conditions that could be addressed and any therapist That's registered with a sec the American Association of sex educator counselors educators and therapists would be a great place to start But also, you know if you just want to if you guys out there. Just want us to raise our sexual desire just load the dishwasher okay? Dr.. Wendy whore

1:10:55 Can you believe that? Can you believe that is the level Jake Tapper has sunk to doing... It's terrible. It's embarrassing! Just know it's a dishwasher, men! There was some sexist stuff she said too besides that. ...behavior expert and author of The 30 Day Love Detox. Dr Walsh thanks for being with us So as Elizabeth's piece talked about Is what needs to be addressed with women more mental than physical Absolutely. Research shows that women's sexuality is very different than men's sexuality Men is more about basic plumbing, get some blood flow there That's... it's exactly... I'm listening to this and like that's not okay to say You know? It's sexist

1:11:39 You know, men is just they just want to get some blood flowing there stick that thing in move it around ha screw you bitch I mean this woman makes me mad Women! You have to address desire sometimes Men don't have desires now all of a sudden? women's sexuality is about what? yeah desire to be desired to be desired. My sexuality is a desire to be desired, this is incredibly sexist and there's no questioning of it." Or they have sex because they want a companion. Great evidence of this is when women break up from a relationship they don't replace their boyfriend with pornography like

1:12:15 like what yeah when men break up you go through a divorce and the next thing you know your plowing through porn and they let this is bull crap. And that's on television, on CNN the news channel with Jake Tapper White House former White House correspondent for ABC News Wow talk about sinking to the bottom of the boat is it unbelievable sorry and and and the worst of its all to promote Viagra That's the worst image. For the big Viagra anniversary I'm just, I'm blown away by this but this is happening more and more not just this complete idiocy but we're seeing this ageism sexism and it's of course its all reversed which is still sexism ageism racism you know? It's like Jim Carrey And I don't know if you saw this uh... Jim Carrey came out with a Funny or Die video

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Jim Carrey's Anti-Gun Video Critique

Jim Carrey's "Funny or Die" video parodying "Hee Haw" and Charlton Heston is criticized for being unfunny and culturally dated. The hosts argue that the video relies on offensive stereotypes of gun owners as "rednecks." They point out that Carrey's portrayal ignores the actual demographics of gun ownership in the United States.

jim carrey· funny or die· charlton heston· gun control· hee haw

1:13:08 And did you see this thing? You must have. I didn't see it but i know about it Okay, and so uh... It's against a... It's an anti-gun video. It is the most unfunniest thing he has ever done. And I'm pretty big fan of Jim Carrey stuff Uh way back to when... What was that? Remember he was on Fox? The Living Color Right With the weigh ins boys Yeah A lot people aren't old enough even remember Jim Carrey from then And so, first of all he does a parody of Hee Haw. Now even I'm not old enough to understand the parody of Hee Haw which is ridiculous. Talk about a dated reference and it's just no-no in comedy and he's doing Charlton Heston another like what? Wow! No one cares and then in his backing band its like very funny he's got Lincoln shot with a gun He's got John Lennon shot with a gun you know this is his backing band ha ha

1:14:03 Essentially he's making fun of people who, he is saying that people have guns are redneck white a-holes. And it's racist! Well not only that but the statistics show that actually the number of white people with guns is less than 50% of total number of gun owners It's a minority of users actually. So let's just go with the stereotype and forget about the facts? Yeah, but I can laugh at something that i don't agree with it, I can still laugh at if its funny but it is not funny! And I dont even get it. I know because Goldie Hawn was on it. That's about all I know. I dont think you've ever seen him. No no, Goldie Hawn was on laughing.

1:14:46 little I know he was a clone of laughing done in a right that's their style with all kinds really never heard of because it was mainly a syndicated TV show but yeah I can give you some of the audio you might get the idea but you'll say it's not funny in a minute why did the ventriloquist quit drinking? Listen, he said like a real dumb Well, hi-oh and howdy fine folks and welcome back to yeehaw. We want to thank our special guest Charlton Heston for joining us Walter it's an absolute pleasure to be here in the sight of God on hee haw I mean yeah Oh so bad It was really really bad Anyway um...I need to mention uh let's talk about Cyprus for a second because you know

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Cyprus Bank Bailout and Energy Privatization

The financial crisis in Cyprus is analyzed as a strategic move to force the privatization of energy assets, specifically the Leviathan natural gas field. The hosts explain that the seizure of bank deposits over 100,000 euros is a "template" for future Eurozone bailouts. They suggest the move is intended to secure control over pipelines and marginalize Russian influence in the region.

cyprus· bank bailout· privatization· leviathan field· turkey

1:15:47 What happened, of course we know that if you don't know well you know what? Before you play your clip, let me give my small not as good a clip. Cyprus redux so we at least have some evidence of what's going on. We might have the same one... I don't think so In Cyprus several thousand students protested in Nicosia a day after the country secured a 13 billion dollar international bailout The deal calls for cypress to shrink its banking sector and impose heavy losses on large Depositors. Today, protesters marched on Parliament and the Presidential Palace They waved signs and chanted slogans against the austerity measures No we'd never see that! No you're right That was not an American television show I'm sure Actually it was the News Hour Oh really? It was a run down where they do little short snippets

1:16:37 Okay, so here is our friends in Canadia talking about it and this is how they're kind of positioning it. In fact a senior Cypriot politician told us that pension funds will be amongst the assets confiscated and transferred to Europe In fact, when the banks eventually reopen here individuals or businesses with more than $130,000 on deposit in certain banks will find a great deal of their money has been seized. What's left will be subject to strict controls closing accounts or transferring money will be forbidden in the near term no other European country has endured such a thing as this onlooker here rather shrewdly observed what happens

1:17:20 happens in Cyprus, could happen in Greece, could happen in Italy, it could happen in Spain. It could happen in Portugal... It's wrong! Tonight, Cyprus' president returned from Brussels and told his people to brace for deep pain. Pain! And in fact, the Dutch finance minister who played a leading role in imposing this nightmare on Cyprus told reporters today that this will indeed be the template for any future bank bailouts. In other words Peter from now on no bank account anywhere in the Eurozone is safe That cannot be reassuring Alright so this what everyone was talking about is that Dijsselbloem who is indeed the relatively new Dutch Finance Minister

1:18:05 And I have a little clip of him which i really like to play because you can hear kind of just how he does not give a shit about anybody. He's just, just a total elitist prick but I am going to tell the citizenry of the EU that you brought this on yourself and that they are actually doing the correct thing First, let's listen to the elites. The program will be based on ambitious measures in areas of fiscal consolidation... I love the ambitiousness of this! ...structural reforms and privatization. Privatisation? Very important to remember that. The authorities will also take decisive action to safeguard the stability of financial sector including bank resolution and deep restructuring measures concerning the two largest banks

1:18:59 A levy on deposits across the whole banking sector can and will therefore be avoided. I would like to emphasize that none of these measures will affect deposits below 100,000 euros. There should be no doubt about that. The Leiche Bank will be resolved immediately with a full contribution of equity shareholders bondholders and uninsured depositors and it will be split into a good and bad bank. The bad bank will be run down over time, the good bank will be folded into the Bank of Cyprus so all the insured deposits

1:19:44 will be moved into the Bank of Cyprus as well as good assets. The instruments that we're choosing now could have been chosen a week ago, but they couldn't have been chosen a week ago because there simply wasn't political possibility to reach that agreement." So I'm trying to figure out what has changed? Why is this taking place and there's two basic reasons one of course you heard the magic word privatization And this is very important to understand that Turkey has been ratcheting up the pressure on Cyprus. They essentially have forbidden any, the Italian energy company from doing any projects with Turkey if they were to do anything with Cyprus because of course Cyprus has that Leviathan field right offshore

1:20:35 So, you know Israel has it but Cyprus has a large portion of this. Most of the pumping would have to go through Cyprus and we discussed this once before when you discover this field and it turns out that they had to privatize... We already talked about them the need to privatize so they could get ownership of the pipeline completely and they can't take a piece of it in other words Cypriot government cannot steal money from the pipeline which normally they would want to do, get a piece of the action. A penny or you know a barrel or something so they wanted to avoid that kind of thing because God we can't afford that and So the idea was this was going to happen as you predicted I believe two years ago And i don't have the red book for that it's too long ago

1:21:21 and they never did what I think there was a model that was supposed to occur where they're supposed to go step two, step three. And they just didn't write. So he said OK we got to step in and make this happen. It's also important to note that Turkey is blackmailing Italy because Italy would love to have had the natural gas go from Cyprus to Italy into Europe right? That makes sense. What a bonanza. Uh uh it's going to go to Turkey It's going to go, you know and we of course we have Greece. And it got all the everything...it is all about get just total control Of course what is being played up is oh the poor citizens believe me no one gives a crap about them That is just like just you know what do you call it collateral damage

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Russian Capital Flight and Cyprus Cash Distribution

Reports indicate that pro-Putin Russian elites were able to fly their money out of Cyprus on private jets before the bank freeze took effect. Meanwhile, armored vehicles were deployed to distribute cash to local bank branches under heavy guard. The hosts discuss the geopolitical implications of the "Troika" taking over the Cypriot economy and the resulting protests in Nicosia.

vladimir putin· cyprus· capital flight· armored vehicles· moscow

1:22:06 No one cares. This is about screwing the Russian depositors, grabbing the gas and rolling it right through whoever winds up owning it which by the way could be a different set of Russians for all I know. And there could be Russian battles going on? Yes! There's this thing to... couple things to note whether to me because you're gonna finish this but I wanted..I was kind of wondering how the Russians are gonna react to this cuz Cyprus is kinda like Russian second home especially for expats a lot of them that you know if they're with all kinds of political repercussions Take place in some area like even the Ukraine some

1:22:44 they go to Cyprus and they hang out there until it blows over. But they also go to Turkey, I mean the Russians and the Turks are also buddies! Right but they put their money in the banks and expected to be safe there, they don't expect to have it stolen from them And then in Cyprus, that bank of Cyprus we're talking about is going to take over everything It's actually has branches in Moscow So there's like some sort of connection there too. This is a real mess and the EU besides screwing the Russians on this deal are also I think inviting a bank run on the banks in Spain, Portugal and elsewhere

1:23:23 So what's the point of that? Okay, well so you have the pro- What I'm understanding is you have the pro Putin guys and I'm just receiving now information that last night because you know last night they actually brought in the cash. You know they had trucks with the cash In fact i've got a clip They brought the trucks in with cash and two jets took off with money to Russia of the people who are pro-Putin, their money got out. Here's Leo.

1:24:07 They won't be allowed to cash any checks. They won't be allowed to cash in certificates of deposit early, and finally if you're traveling outside the country You won't be allowed to bring out more than 3,000 euros per person per trip There are preparations underway for the mass distribution of cash tonight A huge amount of cash arriving at the central bank under heavy guard and a private security team is in place in the country with 35 armored vehicles to begin distribution of that cash from the central bank, to the branches. The employees are getting in early in order to receive training on what to say and what the new measures are... And then the banks will finally reopen at noon." Here's what you say!

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

European Stability Mechanism and Future Bank Runs

The role of the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) is examined, with the hosts noting that Cyprus is the first country to receive a "macroeconomic assistance program" under its rules. They argue that the ESM's legal structure prevents traditional bank bailouts, forcing the "bail-in" of depositors. Predictions are made that Portugal and Spain will be the next targets for similar financial interventions.

esm· klaus regling· bank bailouts· portugal· spain

1:24:46 So that is the cash part. But the thing I found most interesting, which no one has talked about... Everyone's talking about Diesel Bloom he is head of the Euro group Which apparently it's like the banksters of the EU And he's the right guy for it. He is young, you know he has a douchebag obviously New finance minister, got all the right background, he's got that phony little British accent thingy going on because educated as an elite cock sucker Sorry I just have to say it But what's really going on here is this is the ESM. And the ESM, I warned about this and I told you Europeans that you can't just let your fricking politicians go and ratify... they ratified this whole thing! What was it? A year ago as well that I said the ESM, this is a dangerous thing?! So because... I don't think it was that long ago but it was awhile

1:25:41 Well the ESM is the European Stability Mechanism and this agreement, and I have a clip here from Klaus Regling who was the president or managing director of the ESM which is just another computer with bank stuff on it. The whole deal behind the ESM is there would be no bank bailouts from this money. And Cyprus, as far back as October 2011 has been trying to get a bank bailout from the ESM which they will never do So you've really put this upon yourselves because it was all fine and dandy we could yell and bitch and moan about You know about the banks getting bailed out by the government And by the EU but now because of the ESM, and this is the first time. This has happened They can't they legally with their own laws cannot do it so you've brought this upon yourself This is what you wanted here's Klaus as you know Cyprus will be the first to

1:26:43 fully-fledged macroeconomic assistance program financed by the ESM. This program has a strong bank restructuring component and covers financing needs of the public sector." Okay, translation... Translation is In order to get the ESM money, which is the only way you can still get money to save anything of an economy in Cyprus. The strong quote strong restructuring plan means screw everybody Screw it just taking the money whatever however we have to do it and the public sector part is the privatization parts. The ESM financing will mainly go to the budget of Cyprus

1:27:28 So it's to the budget of Cyprus, which means they're not even going to receive any money. It just stays in Europe for their contribution that goes to their budget doesn't go to them. And the disbursement will be as usual on a quantity basis following some normal reviews by the Troika. Heil! That's all I can say. Heil! Heil, heil, heil Forget about... It just basically took over the place. I mean, Cyprus was not a country that was in economic turmoil

1:28:05 I mean this whole thing is such a scam from beginning to end, including...I put the Greeks into this too. You know the most productive people in the EU in terms of productivity numbers are you know essentially and they had to do that to them if Turkey was in the EU by the way this would be going on with them too someway or well they're a little more adamant there they have a military. Well and also they have the crossroads for all pipelines so But these guys are just essentially being, and I think the students have got this right. They're protesting but they're not probably protesting with enough vigor. This is a takeover and that's all it is to it and the EU is just essentially... It's like a company that, I talked to the CEO of Barnes & Noble once about this and he says he hates

1:28:56 in over the last few years because publishers would be buying out each other and so you One company would buy another and then jack up the prices of the books to pay for the buyout, right? And so the book prices have gone through the roof because of this but this system essentially they're making by stealing the money from the banks. They're making the Cypriots the cypress folks pay for their own takeover. Yes! By Europe, it's like humiliating. Yeah it is. Well that's gonna cost us too much money to take over the place and no we'll just steal their money thats in the bank But they don't even care about them They really don't care

1:29:38 And now it looks like Spain is going to be much worse than expected. What do you think, Spain next? Spanish banks because they're no longer... It could be Spain or Portugal those are the two targets and I would guess Portugal will be next because i think its just a little smaller although they're tough cookies It may be harder to do Portugal because they're a little more, they may fight about it. The Spanish seem to be... the Spanish got suckered cause they gave them all this money and spent it on roads that nobody goes through and there's one airport apparently in Seville. Well Portugal did the same thing. Portugal did that too Not to an extreme. There are smaller countries so they can't do it to the extent Spain did

1:30:19 And then Portugal didn't build a whole airport, you know, middle of nowhere just to spend the money. And if you go drive through Madrid there's some beautiful skyscrapers that were put up one of them by the... There is one in particular there is and one of the main drags are these two huge buildings that look like they're falling in on each other well on either side of the street right yeah they're leaning and it's a bank building that the bankers took all his money and they built this huge monument to themselves. It's an interesting situation I think Portugal first if only just for the pedophilia because that's like pedophile central there, and i think they probably want to like just do something with that it's the same guys? I don't know maybe...I mean.. I do! I don't think that's going to be their rationale okay I think it's gonna be which one is easier we'll get to the other one when we get

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Death of Boris Berezovsky in Surrey

The suspicious death of Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky in Surrey, England, is discussed. While police reports suggest a hanging, the hosts question the physics of the shower rail used and the presence of a broken rib. They suggest the death was an assassination by Russian "goons" rather than a suicide, noting Berezovsky's history as a vocal critic of Vladimir Putin.

boris berezovsky· vladimir putin· surrey· ligature· hanging

1:31:13 Maybe but eventually it's gonna be a total takeover of all of Europe and it'll take 10-15 years. Yeah, Italy will be after that Oh That'll be fun. That will be fun so wrapped up in this It cannot be ignored is the obvious two to the head there for Berezovsky In in Surrey and I was so funny you know So this is the Russian guy who was anti Putin Funny how that works. Everyone who's pro-Putin, their money gets flown out of Cyprus on jets You can Google this by the way you can find you can see this in brand new jets Anyone who is anti Putin your money is still in there and you can't take it out and maybe you get killed

1:32:00 or listen to the report although this is a very brief hearing it was he said it was opened and adjourned within minutes we did hear some absolutely crucial evidence from a police detective who spoke in court and said that mister beresofsky's body had been found by an ambulance crew lying on the floor of the bathroom last saturday afternoon and the key thing he said the ambulance crew had found him with what he described as a ligature around his neck, which is kind of medical term. Ligatures used in surgery for tying up wounds and things that essentially means some kind of cord around his neck and he said that's similar piece of similar material had been found on the shower rail above him so it obviously appears very clear now that he did

1:32:54 or he was hanged. He just said it! Let's look at the logic of this now in England in particular but for one thing the ceilings are low so I don't know how to hang a bed off of that ceiling let alone one of these things that hold a shower curtain which have no strength, I mean like trying do pull up on one you can't do it'd just come right down and meanwhile where's the rest of the rope? I mean what they just found ligature marks, ligature. Hound? It is just ligature so he was hanging in it then is untied itself and fell to the ground this isn't any of this... Is there any logic to any of this explanation no and then logic to some

1:33:39 Couple of goons coming in there and not wanting to make a mess. And so they got him from behind Choked him to death with this ligature put them in the ribs I think he has a broken rib To probably kick them elsewhere whether they wouldn't mention it but just to make his life miserable as he's dying and then lecturing him as he was going under about whose side is he on, and it's too bad blah blah blah. And the guy drops... they just drop him there dead and then leave the rope or whatever laying in there now that somehow becomes a hanging on a shower curtain rod I like how the reporter actually says he was hanged

1:34:20 Hanged. Yeah, he was hanged not like he hung himself or he hanged himself He was hanged off him so it obviously Appears very clear now that's he did Or he was hangs even corrects himself and he did or he was hanging There's a there is a theory out there that says that this is not him and then he escaped and then he isn't hiding Allah Robert Maxwell but I don't think he's probably dead Think he's dead to the Russians aren't that yeah, they're there. Yeah, they're efficient They're not gonna know let that happen no unless you know There's no way It's a wonderful world everybody That's for sure just gotta love it so I got one clip here That's interesting which could use a rim shot by the way the creepy panetta will be back Clip on if you're aware of this particular

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Janet Napolitano and Trusted Traveler Programs

Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano's promotion of "Trusted Traveler" programs like Global Entry and TSA PreCheck is scrutinized. The hosts argue that these programs are primarily about collecting biometric data rather than increasing safety. They question the logic of intense security screenings for American citizens who have already landed and exited an aircraft.

janet napolitano· tsa precheck· global entry· biometrics· border security

1:35:18 development. He's barely had a chance to get back to work at his Institute but could there be yet another return to Washington? 2016 Clinton Panetta ticket? As far as I'm concerned that's what public service is all about. It's about committing yourself to giving your children a better life and if i can do that in whatever capacity, I will continue to do that. The Humpty Dumpty ticket! Can you imagine that ticket? Oh my goodness... He would represent Cheney and she would represent George Bush I guess. This is not something I want to see You don't think it's possible Janet Napolitano did a breakfast thing and of course they asked her the question there as well. It's like, yeah you're gonna run? Do you think it could be Clinton-Napolitano? There is no way they are going to run two women. Not possible! But if they were two women...

1:36:14 So here's Napolitano, rim shot. Who said there were two women? So Napolitano she is doing this breakfast and she starts talking about the trusted traveler services and I'm thinking how is this making us any safer? And we continue to work to emphasize our mission with respect to border security The third area that is a big change for us and it's like turning a big, big ship is to move in the travel and trade space into a risk-based approach where we don't treat every threat equally. Where we don't treat every passenger the same but based on what we know or don't know... This is very interesting I think this is an hour long breakfast talk

1:37:05 And what's funny is she was actually eating during when people were asking questions. She was just scarfing down scrambled eggs. She has to maintain her weight about travelers we can identify who we can expedite through the lines versus those that we don't know much about that we need to be spending our time on. Now listen very carefully to what she's saying and then I want to ask you about the logic So, you'll see we have expanded global entry if you don't have your global entry card you really oughta get it It's for those who travel internationally and if you arrive at JFK and you see people scooching through the lines That's because they had their global entries

1:37:49 And then we have a domestic version called TSA PreCheck. which has been growing very rapidly. Our hope is that by the end of this year, one in four travelers will be in some sort of expedited traveler program. Expedited is code for biometric programs Which allows us to again focus on those we don't know much about and hopefully will take some pressure off the wait lines at the airports We've done the same... Okay so a couple things... I want to interrupt you for second You remember when the sequester came out, I haven't heard anything about the wait lines going up but Obama threatened that there was gonna be hour long two-hour long waits to get to your airplane. Yes Bull crap! yes well no one calls him on that please anyway go on alright I don't understand how this makes us safer because you've been pre approved first of all you're coming into the country

1:38:50 Are you carrying a bomb you're going to blow up the minute you're in the country? I'm here! I'll walk by!" Is that is that the point, that makes no sense whatsoever. And the whole global entry thing is creepy because besides it being based on biometrics which is the only reason I will not do it... It's going to be global, it will replace your passport, it will be your global... You can write that in the Red Book but then you have this pre-check thing. So it's really, she's talking about two different things one is biometrics for traveling around the world which has nothing... You're getting off the plane! You've exited the aircraft how does this make my flight more secure? And reporters from every single outlet were there no one says excuse me what does that do for safety but then we have well here's another thing

1:39:45 If you remember we had this on probably a year ago, we were discussing this in a different context which was there were people and there was some of our listeners talking about getting stopped. the way into the country from as an American citizen being stopped not for the passport check and not for the customs check but just being stopped and questioned. As you are entering the country, as an American citizen remember that? Yeah! And it was going on and people were being taken aside and there was a whole rigmarole about this I think that was just a precursor to their... There's something else going on here because there is

1:40:26 at the point of entry trying to get back into his own country, his or her own country. There's no reason for this it makes zero sense so I think you're absolutely correct This global entry thing is bogative! What's the point? You're coming back into your own country...you shouldn't even have any except just stamp your passport and make sure you not bring in fruits and vegetables or whatever they don't want you bringing in meat there shouldn't be any hanging up No more meat No, absolutely true. And it has zero to do with security and then we have the pre-check so apparently if we know about you ie we have your... and there was another piece there is like If you have your global entry then you're automatically qualified for pre check Then we know about you So therefore you're not at risk That makes no sense I mean if you gonna have a butt bomb or a boob bomb It's like oh! We don't have to scan him because we know about him cause we trust him

1:41:26 It's in fact it's called the you know trusted traveler program. It makes no sense Zero, but really makes those senses this thing coming into the country This is after you've already landed yeah well that's part of their security people are so they're so Brainwashed man there's so brainwashed on this stuff. It's just and that's your press corps Like, oh okay. No whatever and meanwhile the... You know I want to defend them a little bit on this because you know for a fact that if one of them simply asked the question that we're asking which is what sense does it make to stop somebody after the planes landed coming into the country and grill them they would never be invited back to any of these things funny you bring that up this is Dana Milbank

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

White House Press Access and Profanity

Dana Milbank's comments on the vulgarity and profanity within the Obama White House are discussed. The hosts compare this to the Nixon and Bush administrations, noting that the current press corps is often compromised by their desire for access. They suggest that the aggressive language used by White House officials is a tactic to intimidate reporters.

dana milbank· ari fleischer· white house· profanity· press corps

1:42:16 from a couple weeks ago, I've been saving this talking about the media's comp how the media is compromised for access to the government in particular. The White House is there an expectation in this Democratic White House that if you are granted access and particularly new or unusual. Even if it's right in your face? I actually once had to clean Ari Fleischer's spittle from my face, this was the Bush White House Press Secretary. I haven't had to do that here. What is different is its more coarse and vulgar maybe this how

1:43:08 how everybody is these days but the number of F bombs being dropped by this White House, scholars are going to look in the National Archives in 20 or 30 years and they're gonna be shocked by the language that was coming out. Well I'm shocked that such words would be used in this kind of discourse Hey! Is that recorded? How will we... can we get a hold of that? What all the cussing yeah How does he said the National Archives and scholars will be I want to hear it now? I don't know what the deal is. We've listened a lot of these press conferences, I had no idea that this particular White House is more profane than the Bush White House which I thought was very profaned. I mean we know for a fact that Nixon was one of the worst you know in this regard because of the Nixon tapes and they were in the office and all right did was cuss. It doesn't seem

1:43:54 I mean it baffles me because there's no reason for it. It doesn't, its not effective if you're just saying some profanity constantly. You sound like a moron but I guess this White House has got a problem." Well you remember when Valerie Jarrett said that it'll be payback time after the election? So before the election she said when we get re-elected it will be payback time. Look at what is happening man! Do you see Michelle Bachman and the trouble she's in? No, what's the latest? Oh no she's accused of campaign fund misuse of campaign funds. You know this is unlikely. It's the old one yeah enough of course

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Syrian Opposition Training and Foreign Fighters

White House Spokesman Jay Carney's statements on "non-lethal assistance" to the Syrian opposition are deconstructed. The hosts highlight a UK government report ("CONTEST") that admits hundreds of European foreign fighters are in Syria, some linked to Al-Qaeda. They express concern that these fighters will eventually return to Europe and the UK with combat experience.

jay carney· syria· al-qaeda· foreign fighters· non-lethal assistance

1:44:35 It's the old one. Yeah, you can pull that stunt I'm surprised they aren't starting to plant kiddie porn on people and all the rest of it That's a classic yeah i don't think that works as well anymore because...I don't know just doesn't.. I don't think it works as well No, I think its very doable I mean you can do it Oh! Its doable but who is going buy that from Michelle Bachman? You gotta nail her with something else But yeah we got something logical She looks like thats why she such a goody two shoes now shes stealing money So Syria speaking of all this and I'll wrap up my White House. This is the I'm on the White House beat here a Spokeswoman Carney was asked specifically about you know, what are we doing? And I love it when he reads from his paper

1:45:23 And he's doing that a lot most the time when he has to because our country is run by lawyers essentially and He has to use the specific words, and they're very good at it Because it's very hard to catch any of these lawyers Later and say oh But you said this and then you go back in read the transcript and listen what they actually said It's like ah man. You know there was really smart the way They said that because there's always a hedge you know yeah in fact if I wanted to harken back to the era when Nixon was being impeached and we have to remember there's only three, you know Nixon then Clinton was impeached but there was a John one of the White House lawyers John what's his name and he's now doing talk shows and stuff. Bolton? No this is back when this is uh it

1:46:14 Oh, what's his name? Well anyway I remember his testimony and he would always do the following because it has been grilled. He would...and by the way this is a tip for everybody out there who has to uh do some...and when i was working for the air pollution district I learned a few of these tricks too somebody asks you a direct question that you could maybe perjure yourself on okay you say I'm not sure I understand the question but as a preface and they say but Well, you don't even have to say but. But once you say I'm not sure I understand the question... You can always refer back to this Oh! I said that because obviously didn't understand the question as you can see here in the record. I'm gonna use that on Mickey. Not sure what's he going to do? You said that you...? I'm not sure i understand the question darling but I think you want me to take out the trash Let me just check Here is Spokesman Carney on Syria

1:47:10 Well, let me say that we have always been clear that our non-lethal assistance to the Syrian opposition includes equipment and training to build a capacity of civilian activists and to link Syrian citizens with the Syrian Opposition Coalition. What does that mean do you think? It doesn't mean anything! Oh no wait here comes... well there's actually a good question coming up in local coordinating councils You know so I can say that much So what does it mean in English though again? That's pretty good English Well, I mean no offense but... There are no dangling participles. So are we training the Syrians directly or are we training them through Jordanian? That's the real question. Are we training these mofos besides giving him weapons which are smuggling in through Turkey with the CIA, are we training them and here he is going to read from his paper. Tell you that again Again

1:48:04 Our non-lethal assistance to the Syrian opposition includes equipment and training to build a capacity of civilian activists. You know, on some of these other issues I don't have anything for you but it is clear that we are providing the kinds of non lethal assistance to the Syrian opposition that we've discussed." Oh! This non lethal assistance business has to stop. Yeah... And like..I like the uh... I don't have anything for you on that Did you take that cookie? I don't have anything for you on that, mom. I really don't. I haven't got any answer for that! In the UK...I go this one from MrOil sent me this The UK Terror Contest which is kind of weird Not quite sure why they call it that It's called CONTEST The United Kingdom Strategy For Countering Terrorism Their annual report I don't know why its called contest Unless its like some contest to be a better terrorist than the next guy

1:48:57 And he pointed out to me a specific passage in this 1.9 the uprising in Syria beginning an early 2011 has involved many organizations with different political views and tactics Some are connected with and supported by al-qaeda in Iraq these terrorist groups conducted over 600 attacks in 2012 and like others associated with Al Qaeda continue to attract recruits from this country and elsewhere in Europe. There are now hundreds of foreign fighters from Europe in Syria." This is the news in the Netherlands as well, by the way a lot of Dutch people are going over there and fighting. It says, "...as and when UK residents return here... ...there is a risk that they may carry out attacks using the skills they have developed overseas..."

1:49:58 What the F is this all about? Where did you get to that logic?! I don't know! Maybe, I think it's just hedging their bets. In other words if we need to... Ah there may be some set up going on. There is a back story here we don't know. I think the backstory is that if we needed to setup some terror attacks then this where we can always point and say We told you so It doesn't make any other sense By the way The new premier of Syria You know who is now head of Syrian coalition of friends for Syria The past 30 years, you know where he's been living? I don't know Britain or Holland. Texas Oh Right down the street from you. I'm telling it his kids were born and raised here And this is the guy who was now running the Syrian government Hmm that makes nothing 30 years in Texas well at least she'll be pro-gun oh There's a good point By donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, they'd be fab

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Final Donor Acknowledgments and 500th Episode Hype

The hosts conclude the donation segment by thanking a final group of contributors and promoting the upcoming 500th episode on Easter Sunday. They reiterate the importance of the "value-for-value" model and celebrate the longevity of the show. New Barons and Baronesses are assigned their protectorates as part of the show's internal lore.

500th episode· value-for-value· knighthood· barony· donations

1:51:04 You know some people think that outside of the executive producer realm and just helping us celebrate our upcoming 500th show on Sunday Easter Sunday Anonymous from Grand Junction, Colorado begins everything at the 1-2-3-4-5. He says he's been a boner for a long time and he is one of those 20 something guys who wants to find some place that contributes his full time value. Unfortunately he is broke but he gave us 12345. Brian Brown in Orange California $100. Sir El Cid Compiador

1:51:47 Well apparently we've used the wrong name for him last time and so he's back with $100. And Nicholas Hanson at Harvard, Massachusetts nuts...$100. Don't even say that before you go off on that I do want to mention he does want to call out...Nicholas wants to call out his brother Shapen he wants to come out as a douchebag. I guess I'm sorry I did jump the gun and didn't know you had a Kurt Kubal in Mound, Minnesota 9999. Also Dennis Cruz, Sir Dennis to you, the Denman, Beaverton Oregon, the Denman 99.09 which I don't know if you get that do credit for that Justin Frayley in Kate Gardner Kansas 7777 Peter Tagney and Randolph Massachusetts nuts

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1:56:11 That is the difference and that is part of The Secret. And, of course we thank everyone who donated under $50 most of them come in at 499 or 9er for anonymity reasons which is why we have the 50 dollar level Of course a total nod of gratitude, thank you to all of our monthly donors. If everybody who listens to this program was a monthly donor then it would be... we'd never have to go through these swings and I know what's gonna happen We're going to get a lot of great donations already today fantastic and it's gonna be great on Sunday And then we can drop like a rock

1:56:49 Yeah, and I get it. I get it. But we really would like to sustain this. We're in year six 500 episodes and what are we doing? I got a note from somebody that said I can't wait for show five hundred! I'm sure there'll be a cracker! And I was like crap...We don't have any plan. Are we doing something special for 500? Yeah, we're gonna analyze the news deconstructed things going on and probably play a few old clip and all few old memorable clips Which I'll dig up out of the archives. Okay with rim shots are you gonna produce? Oh, I can put a rim shot in every one

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CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Anderson Cooper's 60 Minutes Crocodile Segment

A 60 Minutes segment featuring Anderson Cooper diving with crocodiles is mocked for its lack of journalistic substance. The hosts play audio of Cooper describing the "intimidating" nature of the animals while underwater. They characterize the report as "idiotic" and emblematic of the decline of prestige news programs into entertainment.

anderson cooper· 60 minutes· crocodiles· investigative reporting· botswana

2:01:29 Especially when you compare it to like what maybe 60 minutes does. Oh tell me about it And knew all 60 minutes has, you know Anderson Cooper who seems to be making more money on TV than God Wait a minute Anderson Cooper's on 60 Minutes? oh yes he now He's one of the correspondents and he does these really fascinating reports and I think this is a good when there's a two-parter here well he decides that they found some people in somewhere In the where there's a lot of nasty crocodiles have decided to that during this winter time the crocs you can actually dive with them even though everyone thought this was lunacy and Cooper as it part of his great investigative reporting decides to jump in the water and this I know you're gonna like This clip and the next one because it's one of those clips You can mock because you can do what he's going to do play Anderson Cooper, and the Crocs. He's underwater It's amazing

2:02:20 There's a beauty to it, but it is also incredibly intimidating. You really have the sense when you're so close to it just how strong it is and looks right at you and you know...and IT knows that it can attack you in any moment there's nothing you could do about it The crocodile disappears into the darkness we push further into the cave It gets narrower and more claustrophobic as we move deeper into the gloom Then, lurking on a nearby ledge there's another crocodile. This crocodile is about nine feet long Its tail though makes up about half its length Crocs have the amazing ability to actually slow their heart rate down They can close off one of the valves in their hearts which stops the flow of blood because some of its organs allows them to stay underwater for hours at a time

2:03:17 Yeah, I think we can probably do it let me get in the water here. Oh wait a minute. I need that long I don't have the sound effect It's really quite amazing how the blood flow goes to these cocks in the water. It's really fantastic That's a little daunting though Look at that! I love cocks in the water How'd I do? Hey, it's crocs in the water not cocks in the water. I'm sorry! I've made a mistake. You better go see a counselor So play number two and we get this thing over with This guy...this is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen 60 minutes has deteriorated into either promoting stuff or these dumb reports Who cares about watching this guy swim with a croc? Sediments We can't see where were going

2:04:11 We're trying to pursue the crocodile right now. I can't tell how large it is, its tail is so powerful! I'm almost right on top of it. I could reach out and just touch the tail but if I do that somehow turn around doesn't seem like a good idea. But I gotta say its so tempting The croc is moving so fast we can't keep up for long It's time to surface and find the boat I gotta say... Hold on, wait. How come we don't have-? I need like the bubble all the time. Let's see if i can oh here it is Here we go this'll do. I gotta say touching your tail is so tempting but I really am almost on top of it now Yes! I managed to poop a sinus touching the cock underwater

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Olympus Has Fallen and North Korean Propaganda

The hosts discuss the movie "Olympus Has Fallen" and its depiction of North Korean terrorists. They highlight an interview where Matt Lauer asks actor Gerard Butler if the North Korean government's recent real-world threats were a publicity stunt for the film. The hosts suggest the timing of geopolitical tensions often aligns suspiciously with Hollywood releases.

olympus has fallen· gerard butler· matt lauer· north korea· publicity

2:05:07 I want a gig like that. What a gig, this guy's making millions! I mean holy mackerel... Anyway, I feel really bad by the way for ourselves because uh i think we missed something And it's one of the obvious things we missed that, in other words we didn't miss the story. We missed the analysis. Oh boy! I think it was like a couple shows... for a couple shows that we've been bringing up these North Korean stories they're gonna bomb us, they're gonna get missile defense da-da-da The movie, Olympus Down was about a North Korean terrorist and all the elements of the North Korean bullcrap stories is in the movie. We're always linking to movies and we missed this one I had a clip

2:05:54 Do you have a clip for this? No, I just was reading the reviews. I was looking at Rotten Tomatoes for some reason and then I saw there's Olympus down It said North Korean terrorists in ah North Korea That's why they're in the news so much. I had crappy movie So I had a clip now This is really pissing me off maybe it maybe I had it on the last show Let me see if I had this cuz we had We had looked at this oh man, this is just like this is really bugging me because the It was like a Matt Lauer, it would have been clip of the day if I could freaking find it. You know this is just you're right I'm disappointed that we are disappointing we're just lame. It was Matt Lauer and he had the director who was also an actor

2:06:43 My God, this is really painful now. And he said it's amazing how did you do it? How did you get the North Koreans to ratchet up everything right now just in time for the movie? Oh yeah, wow! He actually deconstructed my accident. Of course not realizing that two are connected But I guess somehow I didn't clip that...I don't know what happened Maybe you didn't clip it. I hate myself I want to go into one little discussion about this since we kind of hinted about it early in the show which is the cutting-in-line phenomenon. And, I want to ask anybody out there who has examples of this and their assertion is and I think it's a big one is that the younger generation from about 30 years old and younger have become so docile that they allow for all kinds of abuses including cutting in line

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

The Chat and Cut Line-Cutting Phenomenon

A clip from "Curb Your Enthusiasm" regarding the "chat and cut"—where someone pretends to know a person in line to cut ahead—prompts a discussion on social etiquette. The hosts observe that younger generations seem more "docile" and less likely to call out line-cutters. They share personal anecdotes about confronting people in public spaces and the changing nature of social confrontation.

larry david· curb your enthusiasm· line cutting· millennials· social norms

2:07:33 unless there's somebody older who won't put up with like my wife for example, will call somebody out in a huge public place. And my daughter by the way every time my wife does it she cringes and she pulls...she does it with me too if I start doing anything in public that you know... It'll embarrass people! Yeah it embarrasses her yes doesn't embarrass me but but I do have the couple of Larry David actually had And he calls it, and I have the clip. The second clip I sent you which is in a separate email... Did you get that? What's the title? There are two of them one of them is in the chat and cut 1 Well there's no one I just had No! One came right after I sent the pile of... I have 2 but its not called Chat & Cut 1 No! Chat & Cut 1 is in the second e-mail I sent you I HAVE BOTH THE CLIPS BUT IT'S NOT CALLED CHAT AND CUT ONE It's called Chat & Cut

2:08:31 Yes, so I'm asking if there's a chat and cut one or if it's just that would be it is that one? That is one going to play it. Yeah Hey, hi Krista Oh, uh... I- Yeah. Krista Ferguson. Hey! David Smith probably. Okay. See what's going on over here? No. Yeah, sorry, I didn't recognize you. She was doing a chat and cut. Chat and cut?! Really!? Yes she is. So she's gaining familiarity with someone she vaguely knows for the sole purpose of cutting in line. You're sure? Possibly. She'll be picking up her plate any second. Watch. You look like you mean it quite. There she goes yeah. Uh, excuse me. Excuse me. Hi. First of all congratulations on a great

2:09:11 attempt at a chat and cut really good 99 times out of 100 that's gonna work unfortunately I haven't been on the line so okay I don't know what you're talking about just saw my friend yeah i know a chat and cut when I see it okay all right use this fellow this poor innocent fellow to sneak into the line do you even...do you know her at all? Well, I mean... to be fair we met like 8 years ago. He remembers so... No! I honestly don't. You think she's doing a chat and cut? I kind of feel like you are. Yeah. I feel a little manipulated here so.. Oh fine okay He's been manipulated. You've manipulated him, that's what it is. Do you want me to get back in line? Would that make you feel better? Yes it would. Fine! Okay fine. You are unbelievable, do you know that? Really?! Yeah because you know what... That's your job here as a bus people as they come through so that you can... And look he just did it again. What no I'm... No seriously I am not even going to say anything this time. I respect your skills really excellent

2:10:10 So that... so I realized that i do this myself. Chat and cut? I'm a chat and cut expert, and I admit to it, now I realize with this sociological thing going on, I may not really be getting away with much because I think now you just walk in line because this happened the last time I did a chat-and-cut was in Las Vegas there was a line I swear to God a mile long yeah and it has to go into a press event And so I, and I've done this before. I realized that after knowing that this now named a chat-and-cut... ...I will go to the beginning of the line and start walking towards it until I find someone I know. And I know enough people." Okay okay you're in A hole is what you're saying? "...and then I do a chat-and-cut. I say hey Gina thanks for holding my place!"

2:11:03 I do it, this is the real slick way to do it. As if she was holding my place and most people will play along and they put me right in front of them and no one says anything! And that's a chat-in cut there are other ways of doing it. The way this woman was doing it on the skit was doing with somebody she doesn't know. Luckily enough people that I can always pull one of these chat-in cuts but But yeah, but now I'm thinking shit. I could just jump right in the line and no one's gonna say anything to me So we've been kind of you've been well You've been tracking this phenomenon and it started with buzzkill jr And he says okay Well This is something new and the Millennials don't know what to do anything that paralyzed and like oh they can't like say excuse me buddy You're cutting in line who is doing a line-cutting? Is it basically dudes like you is that what's happening here?

2:11:51 I think it's people who are inveterate line cutters. There is a lot of... if you go to China or if you work in, like one of the Chinese stores like the giant 99 Ranch People will try and cut in line The Chinese themselves deal with this by creating all kinds of cattle thing where you can't really cut in line because there is rope So you can't really get to the front even though I've seen people do that. You've been under one of those roped lines and guy, excuse me, he's like where are you going? My wife is up there! Do you want her to get run into this? And then he goes up and cuts in line. My wife was up here and these guys do this...I think there is a huge contingent of people, I only do it by the way when I have too

2:12:36 There's a huge contingent of people that cut in line and now I think is the opportune moment to really develop your skills to cut in line. Yes, it's a bad thing but by the same token if you can get away with it, no one's going to say anything. They're just gonna grouse to themselves which is apparently what they do I have cut in line once where i got called out by an older guy yeah I'll give the story so basically cut in line at the airport oh right getting on a plane because I got baggage let me just say something

2:13:13 Cutting in line to get on the plane, really? I mean what kind of douche are you? The plane is not going to leave any earlier. You're not gonna get there any faster. No, no, no. Okay. I carry on a lot of stuff that needs to go into overheads and if I... Oh yeah! And not only are you the guy who cuts in line to get on the plane, you're the guy that-you're like oh let me stash this here or stash this here as your walking down the aisle your throwing stuff up there and taking other people's spots of overhead space Yeah. Oh, I dislike you! Well... At least I have bags that fit upstairs. I'm not the guy who brings in the big giant thing and he's stuffing and stuffing and stuffin'. They can't close the lid. They're stuffing it and they're punching it You know? That guy. I'm no-I'm not that guy either just so ya know

2:14:04 Well, that's good. Anyway... No I'd like to get my over... I don't do the cutting in line at the airport much! I think i've done it a couple times It's not like the chat and cut You gotta be really aggressive to do this So a guy called me out on it And then what did he say? Like hey buddy! No no, it was after the fact which should be... Oh and he came up to you and said Hey, didn't you know that your dick Did he do one of those Exactly And how did you feel? I said oh I'm sorry I didn't care. And then you put your medical mask on? Ah! Because that's the way to do it You need to have your medical mask on when cutting in line So anyway, so this is a plague

2:14:44 Yeah, I don't need to call out somebody cutting in line But we need a we need to help people with this and they would cut yet it's People are the have been trained to just shut up. And if someone acts with authority you know to To just okay. Oh, I'm sorry well the way I do it when somebody cuts in line is I will either tap them on the shoulder, it's like the Larry David thing a little bit but don't go on to how great they are. Tap them on the shoulder and say that back of line is there and point to the back of the line. I said this is not the line, the back of the line is back there and always just go back there no one ever gives you any guff about it unlike this woman did on the clip Right They just do it so I've never found this be a problem calling people out if their cutting in line unless your really good at it

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

California Driving Habits and Freeway Etiquette

The conversation shifts to aggressive driving techniques in California, specifically the practice of cutting into traffic lanes at the last moment. The hosts discuss the "zipper merge" and the tendency of drivers to "gun it" when they see a turn signal. They contrast the driving culture of California with the more civil, yet potentially more dangerous, environment in Texas.

california· driving· zipper merge· freeway· road rage

2:15:34 and they've somehow cut in line. This happens on the freeway a lot, you're driving along and then one of the things I do and I hate to not want to make everyone think that i'm a douche but just gonna explain some driving techniques my wife will not do this and so if I know it's going to be a lot of traffic and I have to do this trick I wanna drive because she won't see we'll just basically get back at the line up on the freeway so another words We have a split. We got the 580 going one way, we've got the 80 going another and there's cars backed way up on the 580 and there is nobody going on the 80 which is the road to San Francisco. I can already feel where this is going. So you pull out as far as you can

2:16:16 You've done this mm-hmm you go up as far as you can after the men will do this more than women I'm oh, I've actually very when I see a woman pull this what I'm gonna describe. I am and I Admire her because I think people should drive like this you go driving up to wrong the side That's not going where you want to go cuz your side is jammed up And then it moves forward a little bit and then it moves forward and sometimes there's an opening And that's when you jump in, you jump into the line. So otherwise you'd be there for an hour so you're driving and driving and then you have to look for the opportunity. Well the opportunity is when usually a truck and a car in front of the truck pulls up and then you zip right it I'm always looking for the truck opportunity Yeah that's the easy one The car-to-car one is a little more difficult especially when you get close to the end

2:17:04 and then you cut in real fast. You never signal because in California if you signal, they will gun it! That's the way it works. They'll do a zipper merge in California which is very polite but generally speaking if you put the signal on boom it tightens up like just like a snake. You can't move in there at all so Yeah, it's one of the tricks. But that's essentially a cutting in line thing but... Well I'm a little torn about this John because on one hand I feel you know that we are indeed above the slaves right? I don't feel that way! I feel like a slave and i'm just cuttin' in line. You'd feel like a line-cutting slave On the other hand I am pretty civil you know if here is... You do this cutting in line with them with the cars

2:17:53 You just feel the protection of the car. You don't do a public cutting in line and align. It's the same thing. No, because in Texas we're not A-holes We got big cars and trucks and we just like jam it in there. And everyone does it, its not civil you know? The civility is we don't yell at each other when someone does like hey good one buddy! Good you got me! That's what I would have done that's... Well here's what bothers me... We dont honk and throw fingers and flip each other off because you get shot thats.. we don't do that Yeah well thats nice now I had you there's these instances where I'm trying to think of one example

2:18:36 where the guy cuts you off or no, here's my favorite or the one I really dislike and this is where you do honk. You got a guy in front of you that is so slow on the draw that guys are cutting in front of him. So a guy cuts in front of him and your under your own aligned to the toll booth for example, a guy cuts in front of the guy in front of you And then the guy still so slow another guy cuts in front of him and then another guy because there's these guys are cutting in front of this idiot in front of you! And so then when you honked horn move up Anyway, you ever seen that? No. You know and I really I haven't either I'm not cognizant or I just you know, I'm not thinking that way Yeah, you're not a Cali California. Oh yeah People's Republic of California. I mean you need a big earthquake just to clean up some Change our driving habits. Uh, I mean it's just now about I kind of remember Just everyone is always angry and it's just maybe I'm just not angry. I just don't see it Maybe I get all my anger out on the show

2:19:36 But there's you know the line if I see a really long line here. Here's the difference So let's say there's a press event right and so you're in Vegas You see the press event like holy crap That's a long line you or you do your chat and cut you start to fade buddy How are you doing? So, you're like ten people behind whatever your and it's a total a-hole move. Here's what I do I See the longline in Vegas. I'm like Screw that let's get some hookers. I'm gonna say no, I don't have a chat and cut opportunity That's what I'll do. I'll just leave I don't care yeah, I don't need to go into this event Yeah, I'm just I just well Just I'm not gonna stay you know I always say you know my My grandparents didn't fight in the war for me to stand in line for anything there You go right bring in World War two Hitler. I Made it

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

David Cameron's Twitter Comment in Parliament

A clip from the British Parliament features Prime Minister David Cameron discussing the Chancellor of the Exchequer joining Twitter. The hosts reference Cameron's 2009 remark that "too many tweets make a twat." They find the exchange in the House of Commons to be a trivial waste of public time during a budget discussion.

david cameron· twitter· parliament· chancellor of the exchequer· budget

2:20:23 So I'm listening to the Parliament having their debates and this particular weird thing comes up. This is about the Chancellor of the Exchequer apparently getting a Twitter account, and they waste the public's time with the following discussion... I'm sorry my computer froze i can't get your clip. No, Chancellor of the Exchequer- Yeah no I see the clip! I see it but I'm trying to click on it Drag it but for some reason. It's probably I don't know Chrome or Firefox or some other uber lord piece of crap, I can't Now what is it doing now? It's like

2:21:00 Is it your little spinning thing? Yeah, oh yeah. No I got the spinning beach ball of death and it just deleted your clip where'd it go? Jeez... Swear to God swear to god. Okay. It's potentially a clip for the day not that you control- Donald! Mr Speaker Given that the Chancellor has this morning joined Twitter Could the Prime Minister remind the Chancellor and the House what too many tweets make? I am I've made a number of remarks about Twitter over the years, most of which have had to withdraw because I'm now tweeting myself. But I look forward

2:21:39 We look forward to the first tweet after the Budget this afternoon. But what is clear is he could tweet even now that we are cutting taxes in two weeks' time for 24 million working people, taking 2 million people out of tax and certainly tweeting that would not cause any dangers for him. Why would this be clip of the day? Well, I thought it was funny. But there's a reference that was interesting which was Cameron's own comment sometime back in 2009 that too many tweets make a twat Oh okay And so they're trying to get him to say it again Yeah that's not very funny No well I thought it was at the time It was funny at the time You know what would have made it funnier

2:22:30 The rim shot. Exactly, a rim shot would have made it much much funnier I'm desperately... you know what's really making me angry is this Gerard Butler who was on the Today Show talking about this movie where And he's still looking for the clip? Well it's been deleted from the internet! I swear to God Yeah no it's everywhere This video has expired So if anyone, I'll actually ask the chat room to help me. If anyone can find like a YouTube version is Gerard Butler talking about Olympus now? I really doubt that you don't have it Well i've looked every...I mean I've seen the clip! I saw the clip and I remembered wow this is clip of the day

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Bitcoin ATM in Cyprus and Mashable Critique

A Mashable report on a "Bitcoin ATM" in Cyprus launched by entrepreneur Jeff Berwick is dismissed as "bogative." The hosts question the physical reality of a Bitcoin ATM, noting that the currency is digital and doesn't require a traditional machine. They criticize the media for hyping the story as a viable solution to the Cypriot banking crisis.

bitcoin· cyprus· jeff berwick· mashable· atm

2:23:16 and now I can't find it in my show notes system, i can't find it anywhere. And its Matt Lauer an he's also like...I remember vividly because it was kind of a gay thing at the end that Matt Lauer is like you're so pretty whatever and uh... just cant find it someone will find for me every single place I go this video has expired strange enough public relations campaign is over they don't care anymore I'm thinking because he actually blew it. He gave it away, you know? He explained how works that could be all right there may be a price Well, let me so let me uh, let me discredit someone else then well the chat room will help me on that It's Olympus down Gerard Butler on today show with Matt Lauer So let me let me discredit Mashable for second kind just discredit mashable Mashables and mashable like cool at one point

2:24:13 I don't know that was ever cool. So they've got this, they've got a video and they've got this hipster with the hipster glasses and this is their report... Lost your faith in the banks in Cyprus? Consider hitting up the Bitcoin ATM Yeah, the online currency Bitcoin is getting a boost in Europe from all financial drama in Cyprus The machine part of a new venture by entrepreneur Jeff Berwick will both accept bitcoins for cash and cash for Bitcoins Bitcoins are really really fascinating if you want to learn more about them go to our tech vertical on now this news And you can let me know what you think at when Rosenfeld on Twitter. All right listen Twitter Rosenfeld This makes no sense an ATM for Bitcoin

2:24:56 So what it makes no, what do you stick your USB drive in a slot or something? That must be it. It's complete this is so bogative and who was this guy This uh... Do you know of this guy this entrepreneur Jeff Berwick Yeah I believe he is the chief editor of The Dollar Vigilante yeah now I looked up his Wiki page as well but had you ever heard of this guy No And he's like, I'm a Bitcoin ATM machine. And he is also an entrepreneur apparently with the Bitcoin ATM machine which i don't think makes any sense whatsoever there no such thing as a physical bitcoin it just a number attached to your number as a bitcoin owner right? I guess...I dont get it Maybe it pumps out a little receipt that has got a number on it but this what drives me nuts

2:25:56 It just drives me nuts that people like and this is the most emailed story of the week. Bitcoin ATM in Cyprus! I mean are you kidding me? You're forbidden from listening to this show when you say these things yeah, I agree That's really not okay. Banned! Gerard Butler, let me see if the good piece is in there. Also I said Gerard Butler was one of the producers Yeah! He stars in... And he's also starring It was directed by Antoine Fuqua I'll bet you ten bucks we get an ad before this video plays We're back at 844 with George Butler. You should have bet me. Listen, listen! Get ready for it. Get ready for Lauer to spill the beads. What do they want? We're trying to find out. Who's in charge? Trumbull. Are there any survivors with you? Negative sir. They wiped us out

2:27:00 They have commanders roaming the hallways with enough explosives to take out an army. Gerard Butler, welcome back. Good to see you! Good to see ya. You got clout Let me tell you why you have cloud all right this movie is about not giving anything away here the North Koreans are The terrorists here they take over the White House and they captured the president And you have arranged just as your promoting this movie to have the North Koreans make all kinds of strange gestures or the United States threatening nuclear war How did you do that? It wasn't so much for me we have a very the powerful publicity department. So we said, Angela just make some noise and say some ridiculous things. Isn't that awesome?

2:27:37 Yeah, fact! If you had gotten this clip in with the right timing or in the last... You would have gotten Clip of the Day. No I know. Absolutely. That's why I'm angry and that's why I'm happy I found it. I'd be angry too by dropping...you essentially had the Clip of the day and dropped the ball on the Clip of the day. And that is an outrageous clip and your right Matt Lauer is an idiot. Fact! Thank you chat room good work he got clout. It was worth finding out that's a outrageous little, just cruising in what we're talking about constantly and of course the annoyance to me was that we you know it's so... Well Matt Lauer is getting fired over this. When that movie came out I didn't know what the war was about i didn't care to look into it who would North Korean terrorists? What went in history can somebody cite me as a North Korean terrorist has ever lived no not only that but they fly

2:28:34 It's fascinating these North Korean terrorists. Matt Lauer is getting fired over this, you know? He's getting fired and you know who they're talking about hiring Anderson Pooper What it's a replace going on an NBC yeah They're gonna replace Matt Lauer with pooper no yes that the rumor fact Well that could happen. Obviously Pooper's on the fast track, he's a fast pooper and it wouldn't surprise me if they did something like that so I'm watching your buddy who also is being moved around Erin Burnett oh yeah I got her got to burn it burn it two clips she had a couple douchebags talking about and I just think it's funny the way she is talking about government surveillance

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Postal Service Clause and Pre-Funding Mandates

The hosts defend the U.S. Postal Service against critics on CNN who argue for its privatization. They explain that the Postal Clause in the Constitution protects the service and that its current financial "crisis" is manufactured by a unique requirement to pre-fund pensions 75 years in advance. They argue that the mail is a secure form of communication that the government and private competitors are trying to undermine.

us postal service· constitution· postal clause· pension funding· cnn

2:29:25 in a funny way that indicates, you know it's possible. She is almost like spilling the beans on the reality of the situation and this is the beginning of a... This story is about Berkeley saying they should be taxing email in the city of Berkeley so everyone has to pay a penny for every email and then that money is going to go to the post office which brings me to clip two but play Aaron Burnett on government surveillance. created, no bureaucrat invented. Oh come on maybe the government needs to be the ones to tell us you're all talking too much! You're sending too much! Maybe the government needs to be the one who tells us to shut our tracks In order to do this they would need to install government surveillance on every email server and probably every single computer Do you want to give the government the power? I'm going to bet that they already have it but... That's a whole other kettle of fish But by the way i think their gonna do it

2:30:13 I think a drone can already see what you're writing. There's no reason not to fight it. Make it stop, John! Please! It's unbelievable... Did she just say, A drone can already see what you're writing? Did Aaron Burnett say that? Yeah, pretty sure he did. That's pathetic people. So here is what bothers me and actually both of us are bothered by this which again the staffs of these large shows they have like dozens of people working there and then they have people on the set that don't ask the right questions or they never did, they just let things slide. In this case at the second part of this clip which is their continued discussion and this douchebag character from The New Republic

2:31:03 or is he from the National Review, a right-wing group. They go off on the post office and now we remember that instead of using the word funding for the post office because they're not funding their retirement they are pre-funding a decade ahead but this guy goes off on the post office as if this isn't an elitist thing by the way Can we just step back one second because you turned the entire show onto this it's important we reiterate that first of all the post office there's something called the postal clause article one section seven of the constitution and it says that there shall be a postal service and they can set rates I think thats pretty much the only two things they can do. And is protected by the Constitution for very important reason because the founding fathers this experiment known as United States knew but it would be important to not only have an armed citizenry

2:32:00 But also to have secure communication so you could actually send something to someone without the government looking into it And it is my belief, but I think our combined belief that there is a move to get rid of this So that we can commit all kinds of fraud financial fraud. You know this is why When it comes to the real fraudulent documents they don't show up with the mail but they show up with UPS or FedEx they say they'll send you a two-day FedEx that's what that's when the real crap is showing up at your door. Yeah, that's because there's no postal fraud involved and by the mail... That's a federal offense the mail fraud. Felony! Thank you. It's mail fraud so they're trying to kill the post office and this guy

2:32:43 who should be getting a douchebag call out at the end. He goes off with all the stereotypical cliches about the post office not realizing that it's really very important thing to have functioning and should be supported so here is what we get to hear with nobody saying anything on CNN Alright, but the thing in terms of funding the post office. I mean what about that argument? I understand your point about the horse and buggy but isn't there some sense in that? We're sending 12.1 billion business emails per year 5.4 billion personal emails. A one cent tax on each of those you're getting some money!

2:33:24 they send you is what I like to call physical spam, which is actually worse for the environment. It's rather unpleasant and now the postal service is saying that the federal government has undermined them by saying... They're saying that we have to adequately fund our pensions! That's crazy talk and so postal employees are funding ads on my television that are visual spam that are telling us this some grave injustice that they should fund these crazy pension obligations they've built up over years. The US Postal Service, maybe there's a reduced place for it. Maybe if they deliver five days a week rather than six, that would make sense but I don't see why every other industry should have to subsidize postal carriers because there are a lot of industries that are struggling and could use those resources to provide innovative new services. Fair point, except you're an A-hole! Sorry just had to AK that guy

2:34:17 Unbelievable. But it's and then it is 75 billion dollars I had to pre fund 75 billion Yeah, pre fund but no one understands this This isn't they don't nobody else pre funds the defensive department doesn't pre fund none of the no other part of government Pre-funds their retirement they do it as they go along and so that so this guy mocks that hey horrible that they have to fund their retirement. They're not funding their retirement, they are pre-funding future retirements to an excess just a way to keep the books unbalanced and break the bank of the post office in fact if it wasn't for this the post office would be in the black it would be making money is that a fact where they were they'd be no numbers been yeah

2:35:01 unions, the postal unions that have come up with these numbers. But yeah they would be making money! So this is interesting isn't not the unions who demand this kind of pre-funding? No they don't they're totally against all this day they are trying to protect their jobs they just care that it's funded why do they have to fund it for 10 years in advance unless they're gonna go under and they want to keep those pensions going I mean this whole thing is like a scheme look we're gonna break the post office Okay. It's a complete and total scam. And Washington has bought into it, these idiots on CNN bought into it, the National Review of all places bought into it they all buy into it. The Constitution is all important but let's get rid of the post office because I'm getting some mail from my Lucky Store down the street every once and awhile talking about sales of corned beef

2:36:02 Oh, that's physical spam. It's ruining trees all of a sudden these guys are now completely old green all of a sudden that they're worried about the Trees being destroyed by all this physical spam I mean come on John C I like the post office by the way. I am a great post office in Albany well you know I um, I never used to go to the post office and

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Ham Radio Gear and Stamp Collecting

A host shares a story about purchasing a small Morse code transmitter and receiving it through the mail with beautiful stamps from the Netherlands. This leads to a brief discussion on the aesthetic value of physical mail and the hobby of saving cancelled stamps. They contrast this "old-fashioned" experience with the efficiency and impersonality of digital communication.

ham radio· morse code· stamps· netherlands· qrp transmitter

2:36:41 and recently, you know we've been moving and all this stuff. And so I'm like you know actually tried online to change address and it was like complicated. It's like you put down your credit card then they charge a cent or dollar and I'm like screw this! I'm just gonna go the post office. They're really bad rap but they're really friendly They're really nice and helpful, it's not crazy busy. It seems like real easy when you want to ship something I buy some ham gear because of course that is the trap you fall into when your a ham And so i bought this 4 band QRP 5 watt Morse code transmitter which is very small Let say its about... no less than four inches by two inches by three inches

2:37:33 And, uh... you know the guy sends it through the post. And y'know it's insured and he put a whole bunch of really pretty stamps on it It was nice! Like-it's nice when it shows up that way I don't know what is this? There something cute about it Am I old fashioned and lame now that I say this No, I think it's fine. And I usually tear off the stamps and put them in a drawer Really? Wow! Wait a minute... I get it. I get a letter from through the post office from the Netherlands let's say or from Germany Or anywhere bunch of these pretty stamps on there because it's coming all across the ocean and I tear off the stamp

2:38:13 I got a big drawer full of these crazy stamps. I'm going to put them in a bag one of these days and then i'm gonna hand them off to my grandkids here kid figure out what these are worth you Mr. Dvorak are the vinyl on the internet, I am telling you, you're fantastic alright uh... I have one more important- those stamps are all valuable! You know that dollar stamp? One of the dollar stamps that you get on a package that says it's a dollar cancelled dollars stamp is worth about fifteen cents Yeah, okay great. I'm just saying No on this show it's appreciated on this you know we don't scoff and laugh at At old-fashioned stuff here we like it that it's an American institution It's a part of the Constitution which I think is pretty important And there's a reason for it its protected Its protected

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

The Monsanto Protection Act and Seed Indemnification

The "Farmer Assurance Provision," commonly known as the "Monsanto Protection Act," is discussed after being slipped into a 2013 budget resolution. The provision allows for the continued cultivation and sale of genetically modified seeds even if a court has invalidated their safety status. The hosts compare this to the indemnification of vaccine manufacturers, noting the lack of public oversight during the bill's passage.

monsanto· plant protection act· appropriations bill· agriculture· vaccines

2:39:07 Anyway, so you told us about the middle of the night we had the Senate passing a bill in the middle of the night and they were all yelling at each other. It's 3 o'clock in the morning and without any real oversight by the people All of a sudden there was the Appropriations Act for fiscal year 2013. Right, which essentially stopped all the cuts and taxes up to the point of $1 trillion more! I mean wow that happened! Well it did something else... Yeah I heard this. So it was originally part of the 2013 House Agriculture Bill

2:39:53 And the section there was known as the Farmer Assurance Provision. I had to look because these appropriation bills are basically all just about money, and it's just money here and money there, money everywhere... $9 billion for airport security! Just like to point that one out. Nine billion dollars for you know for the massage you get when you opt-out. Nine billion Section 735, in the event that a determination of non-regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated... ...the Secretary of Agriculture shall notwithstanding have a provision of law upon request by a farmer grower farm operator or producer.

2:40:37 immediately grant temporary permits or temporary deregulation in part subject to necessary appropriate conditions consistent with section 411A or 412C of the Plant Protection Act which interim conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction continued cultivation commercialization and other specifically enumerated activities and requirements including measures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse environmental effects if any relevant to the Secretary's evaluation petition for non-regulated status while ensuring that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cultivate introduce into commerce and carry out other authorized activities in a timely manner. Colon." I'm going to stop there so what this does is if there was a question about a Monsanto seed there are other companies and i think they just settled with another huge company like a billion dollars of whoever owns whatever patent on life

2:41:35 If there's a question about, and it is not just seeds apparently if you listen to what I just said. As to its danger to your health my health the animal health the health of the universe then while that is being investigated The secretary which isn't that guy like an ex-Monsanto guy? I believe so too will issue a permit so that the growth production and sale can just continue as normal. It is very similar to what we have with vaccines in this country, where if you provide a vaccine to the citizens

2:42:15 and someone dies from it, you are not liable. You are indemnified." So it's not exactly an indemnification but it's very close. It was like hey while we're tying this up in the courts for the next 10 years about some proofs of scientific fact that science shut up already! The permit will be issued to just continue. And so that was slipped in amongst- Right, this is slipped in as part of the budget resolution. It has got nothing to do with the budget Like the same stuff that we've seen other people try to slip in there We had the clip from too bad. We don't have the clip of this one now this got passed well It wasn't discussed There's no clip they because I looked and you know if you go to see dash video is one of those wink-wink nudge-nudge were passing it anyway like that Ndaa, that was slipped in interrupting somebody in the middle of the night yes Yes Nice yes Yeah That's how it works

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Jet Stream Shifts and Arctic Sea Ice

A BBC report explains the unusually cold spring weather in Europe as a result of the jet stream shifting south. A meteorologist attributes this shift to the reduction of Arctic sea ice and climate change. The hosts remain skeptical of the "global warming" narrative, especially as the UK faces record low temperatures and potential gas shortages.

jet stream· bbc· climate change· arctic sea ice· weather

2:43:14 Anyway, at least you're hearing about it here. So you can use this! You can talk about the... and I love it's the farmer what is it called? I love the name of it. It was always named in some way. Let me just see originally the farmer assurance provision it's for the farmer so assure him that he's going to die chance of beating not ever a meanwhile it is still freezing snow on the ground everywhere in your own land this is hilarious I read a great... It's almost April! I know, I know. April in Paris? I read a great headline let me see if i can find this uh freezing British Easter colon listen to these magic numbers three more weeks of freezing weather predicted 33 year old man dead after collapsing and snow could cause a triple dip recession

2:44:12 I mean... Because the guy died? Well, that's just they threw him in for good measure to throw into 33. But it is going to be freezing for three more weeks could cause a triple depression. They now have a tanker... Triple depression, 3 weeks and 33 year old guy. Isn't that great! It's unbelievable Yeah, yeah I don't know they've now um it could decode this a true so a super tanker has been deployed to the island of the United Kingdom's because they're out of gas

2:44:51 Which is fantastic. I love it, I hope you run out of gas so you can see how dependent you really are. And that was never going to snow there again ever! No no no... Well let me play you the BBC Take you back to the days when we strolled in the parks of this pleasant land in shirtsleeves and shorts sat in our gardens nibbling ice cream remember? Probably not, yet that's how it was exactly a year ago. March of last year Spring temperatures in the 70s third warmest march on record and now this No spring What has gone wrong? Well three words The jet stream It has gone, that's what we have to blame. Also Dr Liz Bentley says and she is the founder of The Weather Club at the Royal Meteorological Society and she should know good morning to you! Good morning Is that oversimplifying a little bit? Well no actually are you right that the position of the jet stream is way far south than it would normally be at this time of year Let me ask you question Mr... Professor Dvorak Why do think the Jet Stream has

2:45:49 He's in the wrong position this time. Global warming! And what that has led to is an area of high pressure that is dominating Northern Europe weather Just give us 10 seconds before we go on, what is the jet stream? Ok very simply a narrow band of very strong winds that sits about 30 000 feet above our heads so way above high in the atmosphere where planes fly around And it's produced because of the difference in temperature between the equator and the poles. Where there is a bigger difference in temperature, a bigger contrast in that temperature we get stronger winds called jet stream. So that is the Jet Stream and what should it do? Well the jet stream tends to move from west to east across the Atlantic and brings in our weather systems. It's the real driving force of our weather systems so it develops areas of low pressure and weather fronts that come in and bring us the wind and rain, and at the moment its sitting much further south across parts of the Mediterranean, southern Mediterranean. Why?

2:46:44 Part of that reason I think, there's lots of theories out there as to why the jet stream is out of position. It was out of position last summer as well if you remember it actually sat across the UK and brought in all the wet weather that we saw during our miserable summer last year and but there are lots of real theories behind it one of them is the reduction in Arctic sea ice that we've seen over the last well few decades really but we got to record low levels of Arctic sea ice at the end of last summer. For climate change? Yes, climate change! Absolutely climate change you know what we're all gonna die we're all gonna die we're all gonna die here they come! A severe plague of locusts has infested half of the Indian Ocean island of Madagascar billions of these

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Madagascar Locust Plague and Show Sign-Off

The show wraps up with a news item about a massive locust plague in Madagascar and a critique of a terrorism-themed line from the show "NCIS: LA." The hosts invite listeners to the 500th episode on Easter Sunday and sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley. The episode ends with a final reminder of the show's website and donation portal.

madagascar· locusts· ncis la· 500th episode· sign-off

2:47:30 plant devouring insects threatened the food security of nearly 60% of the island's population. There you go, The Locusts are here? The jet stream has moved south! We are doomed! The Georgia Guidestones prophecy comes true! I only have one last clip... Alright well you know we just can't but can i just pick a clip random from you from your bin But like what? Well, I'm really-I'm interested in this one clip. I've been looking at it all throughout the whole show And which clip is that? Oh is this-ha! Chloe Kardashian You know that this a Dutch show

2:48:31 I think this is nuts. This diving show, this Dutch show originated in the Netherlands it was called The Spring met Stede jumping into water with the stars and here it's called what Big Splash or something? Something like that. It's great, it's a great show because you get to see- Oh this is such a great show! It's a piece of crap! You get to see out... Oh I'm afraid to jump and then they jump Yeah you get to see out of shape celebrities diving into the water. John, you and i could not have come up with a better format Genius my friend! I have a show Here here's my show Five Celebrities Four Parachutes

2:49:11 I'm telling you we could find the five celebrities. We could find them and Chloe would be excited to be amazing She'd be excited to big maze What's the last clip for your darling? Well, I was thinking one of the things we like to do on this show And I've always heard what like like to remind both of us that much of the public attitude and I think the cutting in line thing may Be part of this too. By the way, we need more stories the cutting in line thing may be an element of this. It's the memes are given to us by popular shows and in this case it is NCIS LA, and the terrorism meme that we've actually discussed specifically one little line in here that you'll note when it happens. Tommy the terrorist I like that its funny nice ring to him Its not fun for you though You think im a terrorist

2:50:05 We have you on tape arranging to help a known terrorist illegally cross the border. We have photos of you meeting that same terrorist and we have evidence that you helped supply weapons for planned terrorist attack on the United States It's called giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Oh! Oh! Aid & Comfort, The Two Things Necessary For Treason Wow nailed it all right You know what? On The Cusp On the very edge of leaving, of getting out you get Clip Of The Day. I don't really deserve it after your clip from Lauer but... Now I screwed up my timing and I screwed up the clip and for some reason- I probably had it for the previous show mislabeled it something went wrong. I don't know what happened. Labeling these clips is difficult

2:50:57 Tell me about it, but we also just don't get to everything and we promised ourselves We try and keep the show short because we had a long donation segment today went a little bit over It's funny. I get people policing us now that show was two hours in 40 minutes Shorten it up curry 10 minutes over there with our pull this is like they're like real producers being assholes Yeah, I love that I love it fire us Well, no there's that. Well they could starve us out but that takes a little bit... Anyway I'm looking forward to celebrating episode 500 with everybody on Sunday On Easter! Yeah on Easter, Easter Sunday it's going- What kind of coincidence? I think not

2:51:44 313-13500 episodes of the show. Dvorak dot org slash NA, thank you again everybody for joining us live in the chat room for joining us on the downloads and coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here in Austin Texas In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And in The Morning From Northern Silicon Valley where I am John C. Dvorak We will talk to you again on Sunday For episode 500 right here Sunday On no agenda The best podcast in the universe! I'm Alan Curry, and I've just seen Dvorak. We're having lots of fun here on No Jenner. That's warm hot rolls baby. dvorak dot org slash n a