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00:00 Only Amiga makes it possible. Shut up already! Sitting in and on boxes nothing left but a bare-bones studio here at Cap Mofo with the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And it's cold here in Chili Khan Valley. I'm John C Dvorak Chili Khan Valley really did they must have said that on the news this morning? This cannot be a John C Dvorak original

00:42 In fact it is I thought that just a second ago noticing how cold it is and you said hey, I've got a great one Chili con Valley play on words. We've never heard before hmm right well Yes, I'm gonna probably have chili con carne dinner And of course You were thinking about that you didn't even notice what I said What did you say? That we're sitting in and on boxes. Yeah, no I heard that! Oh okay it's empty do you hear the hello hello i can't yeah there you hear the actually gives a nice ambience so i think you should keep an empty room sounds good yeah no does not sound good it sounds echoey

01:27 No, no that sounds better than you think it sounds good. Oh no no chat room tell him what it sounds like Tell me sounds oh now the channel or now does another chat room here the expert yeah This is true The chatroom knows knows all the all-knowing chat room Yeah So did so literally we have planned our lives once again to move around? the Around the show. So yesterday we had the two men in a truck here all day packing up with us and And so right after the show after the show is post produced and the show notes are done Everything's uploaded which takes another 2 hours After the show then I break it all down, and then tomorrow morning We move over and then I'm gonna spend

02:15 I don't know how many days you know it has been it's been a first of all miss Mickey's done a great job she's doing everything the only thing I have to do is basically sound like a couple of gypsies yeah so I had you know geek desk you know these um have you heard of this geekdesk.com So they came out with a new product which is a stand-up desk with an electric motor, but finally one that's affordable because these desks are typically $2,000 if you want to get a desk that can move from sitting position up to standing position because I really wanted to build a stand-up studio.

02:52 And I don't want to have it to be a fixed height because... But we thought you were stand-up kind of guy. Yes, besides the pun but I am! I like doing that. I like standing while doing shows etc and so they came out with this product which is like 500 bucks for her stand up desk and this is the only splurge. I got two of them for the new studio So, you know I ordered on time and everything and the boxes came. And of course only one of the table tops came. Yeah! And then the other one was damaged like a huge gouge right in the top. So I'm like oh man this is gonna suck

03:30 I have two elevating frames with no wood on it. We're gonna have to go get some, you know, some wood or whatever So and you know do you go back on the site? Oh my god Okay There's no phone number like oh this is gonna be this is gonna suck so bad So I send them like hey You know, I only receive one tabletop and that ones destroyed and lo and behold I get an email from Jennifer And she's like, well looks like the order got split. You know the somehow UPS will deliver on the other one on Monday and I've immediately you know sent a picture of the table top immediately have sent a new one to replace The one that said broken like okay That's pretty cool So what company is this geek desk calm geek geek desk? Yeah geek yeah as in golf echo echo kilo golf

04:23 Are you looking or just being a douche? No, I said geek desk and you said no. And then I thought you said deek desk and then you said no. Golf! And so it's geek desk. So that is how that happened. I love her. So they have this new product which is like $500 for a desk, which is really... How much was yours? Five hundred dollars! Oh. Yeah that's what.. Duh! It's kind of pricey there. I got a stand-up desk from IKEA for like 160. No but how big is it? It's big. No it's not. It's enough for a computer and the keyboard

05:09 Yeah? John, I have three monitors here. I've got two mixers This is a serious operation this is not like an IKEA side by side and put three monitors on them And then what's the price it's more than $500 then you're like no It's 150 bucks at pop 300 you just said save 200 bucks No, okay do you want the best podcast in universe to be a freaking IKEA operation Is that what I'm hearing you say we have jingles my friend No shut up you It's getting you crazy. All right, just saying no it's not it's a lot cheaper than an Amish desk I don't have an Amish desk I'm just saying that yeah, I'm spending resources on the show and you're taking us to IKEA level Thanks You think IKEA sucks? Huh? Yes. Yes IKEA blows chunks some assembly required

06:06 Hmm lost my hex thing Anyway, so it was important that I could adjust it. It doesn't matter if its a motor I would have done with the crank handles as you know yeah Yeah, for that price pretty cool now So you're moving right to that? Yeah, yeah, yeah You know it's funny like this. I think Broadcasting where you're standing up is good. I'm actually in a chase lounge From Martha Stewart? And I have the microphone hanging. Really, are you serious here? Are you kicking back? I am kicking back as we speak So how do you...do you have a...are using your laptop on your lap or...? No no I can The screen is like let's see about five feet from me here I just like to keep the screen away from me and because it's better for the eyes and Right

07:01 I'm just speaking of this. I mean kind of leaning back and kind of you know I've almost prone to the almost parallel to the earth Are you grounded properly? That's weird because you'd say that because no There's definitely something in that first all we have a jingle for that it's lightning rod and grounding break Hello everybody we're lightning rod and grounding braid so you are earth today John. Are you? Yeah, well kind of let's go back to there's the gate boy that geek death site is the slowest thing in his no I The whole chat room is on it So we've built basically we've crashed apparently we have like like a twit size audience these days

07:46 So anyway, I've been getting jolts Constantly around the house really and I thought it was my shoes because they had a couple of these insulated top sliders or whatever there are I got some but try different shoes and slippers And so I'm just so I'm going to make my cuts from the TV Slippers yeah you want to wear slippers. Yeah, so anyways when I'm something walk around barefooted. I don't understand So anyway, so I'm making these cuts and every time I go back to the little recorder which is hooked to the DVR. I just dread touching it because I get a jolt every time you do one of those like where you touch it real fast? You know like that's going to make the shock less? The DVR itself finds a piece of metal and knuckle it. Wait a minute does the knuckle not give you the jolt then?

08:32 It gives you a jolt that's very tolerable. So really, so this is important information because I'm one of the people if it's static and i know I'm going to get a shock or I've gotten a couple then everything I touch I do the real like quick touch but that's not the way to do it apparently No, what you want to do is actually use your finger knuckles but if you really don't like any shock whatsoever You use your fist knuckle. The bottom one Big giant one and you touch with that Really? You get the... you see the jolt there But for some reason I think it's the nerves are not as sensitive Like the fingertips which are sensitive So you touch with your fingertip and it hurts! So I'm wandering around And I go into the kitchen I couldn't believe this

09:19 Got a jolt from some potatoes Well, you know you can make a battery out of a potato well I guess the potato had contact with either was some butter on the potato which is contacted the metal on the stove Yeah And when I went to touch that was I don't know why I was even touching the potatoes But I went and touched him and I got a jolt and that just that was the end. I mean right now I don't know what the deal is but there's so much static and it's been going on for months mm-hmm in I don't know if it's all of California, just my house or somebody's rigged a listening device and has kind of screwed up the electricity in the place. I have no idea but it is bugging me." This is interesting! Well there's something going on then? When the potato gives me a shot, I'd say... Hmmmm....I would be somewhat concerned personally. Yeah that's why I'm complaining about it. So you were talking about your eyes

10:19 I didn't mention this the other day. Now, for those of you who are new to the program, this is the best podcast in the universe when I stopped smoking a 33 year habit and of course saying this 33 for a reason My eyesight changed and this would be presumably because of the I have less impurities flowing through the blood vessels in general and specifically in my eyes. So, my focal point changed and you say how many feet do you sit away from the monitor? Three three feet you say that's your ideal? Right now about four. And what is the resolution of the monitor cuz that's kind of important 1920 by 1080 of course

11:02 Hmm, okay. So when I do that Let's see yeah That is really nice but it can't do without my glasses and currently in the studio I'm about I'd say two and a half feet which is a comfortable range for me wearing the glasses if I get any further than I have to literally slide the glasses on My nose or I have to if I get closer I have to take them off because of myopic myopic I think is what it is myopia So I get a whole bunch of emails just like we have tons of dentists and oral health care professionals. We apparently... People as truck drivers Yes, we have truck drivers, we have oral healthcare providers but we also have ophthalmologists amongst our elite listenership

11:49 And so I'm getting a lot of advice, varying degrees of advice. Also there's a lot of push towards the LASIK operation and I want to say this about LASIK which is the eye operation to correct your vision 1 It still to this day, to my knowledge invalidates your pilot's license. They are not happy with the surgery unless you hide it which I think most people do. Two isn't always the case John maybe you can back me up on this when someone says hey you know this guy that did my LASIK surgery he invented the procedure

12:32 You know, have you picked up on this? That people are always telling you their guy invented the procedure. I've never actually had a discussion with anyone who's had the LASIK surgery in that regard. Oh, well... So I don't know but I can imagine that because it seems as if the... It used to be called radiocarotid something or others carotophomy and it was some... It was a Russian invention people can correct us in real time and then it was always crappy. It didn't ever work very well. It got perfected over the years So yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like people... I got someone here in Austin told me. You know Bloom, Ron Bloom he told me that his guy in Atlanta oh this guy had actually invented the procedure so I'm like this is bullcrap and we know as far as I know it was invented by a Russian and I believe he's dead Yeah Joseph Lacek I think his name was No but also the FDA has come out later said well this really shouldn't have been approved

13:35 No one talks about that anymore. So anyway, but the most interesting I received several people have told me about the Bates method Yeah, that's old. I had a guy who convinced me... Can i just explain what it is? Yes! Let me just tell you what it is. It's exercising the eyeball muscles So William Horatio Falacio Bates in 1890-1895 he came out with the Bates By the way, the guy was a master Well they also got kicked out of every organization as a kook

14:11 The Master Bates did? Yes. John, you're just killing me with the humor today...with the word puns it's just you're killing me! I like how he walked into that one No no but its like..I'm like did he really do that? Did John really just do THAT one?! So ummm....the Bates method is based on his observance That it is not the eye muscles that no longer work and he would take a what do you call the device that you measure your oculance with or the hold on I'm looking for the actual well, he has the What's the name of this damn? Anyway so He would measure the eye and he would do things with light and standing at some distance from his subjects eye

15:04 he would then determine that the eye actually could contract and go oval shape, and all the things that it needed to do in order to see either distance or close up. But its actually the brain that is trying too hard to focus at either the great distance or closer distance And that its a matter of training your brain Not the eye that the I actually has all of this capability. This is not the theory that I received well, this is the Bates method Okay, well that's possible and I can understand it because the eye is seeing if you Apparently if you actually map what the eye is seeing at any given time. You could actually map the optic nerves You're not seeing anything just seeing little bits and pieces of stuff that the brains puts together right? I mean That's why movies in TV works because you're not if you actually saw what was going on you'd see just a right flashes of images So they say so his whole a whole thing It's really

16:06 Well, actually you're saying the whole glasses business. The whole optometry is a big scam and like this is my kind of guy so... You don't need glasses I can see anything! It's a scam you being scams? Dummy! I am following the Bates method to see how that works out So far not doing too well I have to admit but I like the idea There used to be a guy in Guy Cuny was a computer writer and he's out of London, and he gave me a long lecture about it. His method was the exercise method which is that the eyeball gets pulled... like if you're reading all the time your close-up it's the eyeball being

16:52 Train to become nearsighted and that's what people really always get glasses real early And then people who are the athlete types have to see a long distance they tend to be farsighted Yeah, miss and missing matter of exercising those muscles To get the eyeball is start to round up a little bit more and I think that makes some sense. I don't know well I know that when you get older and this could be happening to you by the way you begin to get more far-sighted naturally. So if you were near sight as a kid, it's amazing how Well, what I thought was interesting is that... Normalized drives get pretty normal when you get older. But this happened to me right after I stopped smoking so I don't believe that there was any difference in my eyes' ability to focus but clearly in the signals being sent to my brain which were less clouded by whatever crap was in my blood vessels

17:47 So I mean, I'm kind of buying into it. He also he also says and there's a whole book that I bought his book on the amy His books on Kindle by the way mr.. Bates Yeah 10 bucks ten bucks on Kindle which is a scam because someone just republishing that for free It's you know its obviously public domain That when you wake up from sleep It's hard for you to see when you first open your eyes because your eyes are actually not at rest when you're sleeping. You have rapid eye movement, your eyes are doing a lot of stuff so they're not relaxed at all And it really is when your eyes are at their most relaxed, when you're relaxed and your brain is relaxed and not straining. When you strain to see then you'll never be able to see whatever your correction issue is...your distance problem. Well I think we lost half our audience there with this discussion but uh... Oh no! Why don't you go back to the masturbation jokes? John that will really keep them in the pocket. I'm trying to keep things lively

18:50 Well then let me lay something on you right now. Good So after the State of the Union, the President The next day did a hangout known as a fire... Oh yeah this by the way bothered me because it was right during our show Yes well that's why I couldn't watch it live and even so like a fireside chat It was called the Fireside Hangout with the President. Oh, please! So like Roosevelt's fireside chat it is the Fireside Hangouts brought to you by Google and of course this was incredibly lame no questions were really asked that were everything set up everything pre-programmed You know Clarissa who is trying to validate us on Google she's in charge of the celebrity hang out so I'm sure she was a part of it

19:41 But there was one question that in particular the president's answer caught my attention. That your administration now believes it is legal to have drone strikes on American citizens and whether or not that is specifically allowed with citizens within the United States, and if that's not true what will you do to create a legal framework to make American citizens within the United States know that drone strikes cannot be used against American citizens? So when this question came up, I'm like alright. This is where it's going to go he's gonna say oh no we're gonna have a special court, a drone court much like the FISA Court so you know we'll have a judge that can rubber stamp it and then we have another branch that has some kind of oversight which of course is bullcrap since the president pretty much appoints all the judges

20:27 So, so great question. That's the answer I'm expecting or he could just say hey you know i'm not going to drone American citizens in America but the answer was different. First of all I think there has never been a drone used on an American citizen on American soil and we respect and have a whole bunch of safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States, the rules outside of the United States are going to be different than the rules inside the United States in part because our capacity for example capture terrorists in the United States are very different. So did I just hear the president say the rules are gonna be different?

21:18 Well, that's exactly what he said. But that doesn't... He didn't say no we won't drone you! He just said well it's gonna be easier to capture you probably so we won't have too but the rules are just going to be different Yeah that's what he said. He didn't say no were not gonna...he said were gonna drone American citizens on American soil under different rules Well, he never said... He never positively said that they're gonna drone people on American soil. I wanna listen... Wait! He just said it hasn't happened yet? Yet? And we don't need to do it here because we can grab somebody No, he said the rules will be different. Yeah, he did say that too but he never said... He never positively said we will drone people or we won't. He didn't answer the question in my opinion Safeguards In terms of how we conduct

22:06 counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States, the rules out...outside the United States are going to be different than the rules inside the United States in part because our capacity for example capture terrorists in the United States are very different then in the foothills or mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan. No, to me it means yeah I could probably drone you just under different rules. So I think he He doesn't say no, let's put it that way. Exactly Yeah of course! I mean come on we know this is going to happen every so often because we're always predicting there is a possibility at any given time but its gonna happen... This Dorner thing would have probably been a drone job if the public hadn't turned against the whole thing yeah I'm just waiting for the whole public to be you know in synchronous going Drone Drone Drone Drone Lose or Drone

23:00 Yeah, exactly. I just want to set that again... We're bloodthirsty! ...that we are the ones who invented the game show Win-Loser Drone Co-inventor Sir Jeff Smith because you have no show without imaging Because mainstream media rips us off all the time All the effing time Did you see this Velveeta ad? I can't imagine craft ripping us off. Oh Okay, so the only thing I'll because the only visual part of the ripoff that you won't hear in this 15-second spot is the number 33 is on the display

23:43 You know that guy who's got a ham radio in his basement? He can talk to China, Mongolia and all the Koreas. And he eats Velveeta shells and cheese! So who are you calling amateur?! Liquid Gold! Eat like that guy you know! Okay... Liquid Gold number 33 Ham Radio Chiners please It's getting- At least they could have offered me the voiceover Huh... 33 yeah, it's a 33 on the Channel 33 on the display well We might as well get into it right now 33 of course was rampant Rampant all over this meteorite strike Over Russia thirty three thousand miles per hour thirty three million dollars is what its going to cost

24:31 Everything was 33. Yeah, I know and why what is it? What is it? Oh Because that's been going on with people just started listening our show should know that we discovered this 33 Kind of meme that we have no idea what its purpose is, but it always tends to indicate some sort of a sham or scam. Yes Or a signal? A signal yes. A weak wink? Yes. A winking kind of thing. Some sort But we don't know who's implementing it and how it got implemented

25:08 But it shows up far too often in fact there used to be a segment on this show which you stopped doing because it was just ridiculous And and it would be endless and It'd always be sketchy stories, okay So do you want me to I have? A I think a pretty solid theory on why 33 showed up around this Russian meteorite all right because this is clearly a 33 type story obviously as a renowned Nobel prize-winning astronomer I would love to hear your general take on what you saw in these just fascinating video, so professionally shot

25:56 I saw a crashing plane in one video, and then just the streak. All the good videos of course were computer generated. Yes yes obviously And then there was a few people floating around with cuts on their faces. A thousand people! Then they showed a big hole in the lake. This is what's kind of weird So this thing hits the lake at 33,000 miles an hour. Lake 33 I guess and it puts a perfectly round hole in the lake but if it was coming with that kind of impact...I think it would have drained the lake! It would have thrown the lake completely into the air and there wouldn't be a nice hole with ice around it. The ice sheet would've been blown to smithereens

26:46 If this thing had hit that water at that speed, it would have evaporated half the lake and blew the rest of the lake into the woods. I mean this is bull crap! Yeah, and did you notice how when there's a cruise ship with 4,000 people pooping in bags CNN sends everyone there and they're on the scene and they're on the air for hours covering it live as this thing goes... 24-7 Poop! Poopgate. This freaking meteorite explodes with oh by the way 33 times the Hiroshima bomb I've heard that one a couple of times thirty three times please

27:22 And it's like they send one guy who happens to be in Moscow, they send him up there and then there is a bunch of guys like, go back you know your film here. You know it was just like a bunch of ruskies and everyone was accepting this as normal whereas last time this happened do you know what the last event of this magnitude of exploding meteorite? I'm surprised. The one that knocked down the forest? Yeah, it was an asteroid i think Well now I've learned that an asteroid becomes meteorite when it enters the atmosphere but that was the Tunguska event yeah that's the big one that knocked down like something like a thousand square miles of trees yes and that was in 1908 in Siberia and it knocked down let me see how many because you still see the pictures of the trees

28:14 And that was a larger event than this was. But I just have a couple questions before I get into my theory here So when and when the sound of speed is 762 miles per hour, like a 1200 kilometers. You talk about the sound barriers. The speed of sound yeah so the sonic boom you know a sonic boom takes place over the the sound barrier so of course 33 000 miles an hour does not mean that you get a bigger boom I don't understand how come You know, when a jet breaks the sound barrier we don't have walls crumbling and it's... I mean is it the speed? Is it the size of the object? It's just the distance from where you're hearing. We don't hear sonic...it's illegal to make a sonic boom in the United States. And that's when I was a kid! I should be arrested! What?! I should be arrested! I made a sonic boom just this morning

29:16 And you're talking to me about the master base joke? Okay, okay. So anyway when I was a kid...a little kid it was still legal to fly past the speed of sound and there were booms all the time all day. There would be at least in California you would hear a sonic boom three or four times a day and it was annoying! It sounded like something blew up boom right but it was a shake it would shake the place yeah but not like walls falling down and glass you know shattering everywhere and you know I mean this no, but I assume if the jet was right across the street it would probably do some damage

29:55 Well, and how do they know altitude? And how do they know was traveling 33 thousand miles per hour where the head got like a there's a cop like get it with the ray gun you Know it's like who did turn Who determines all this who determines this and when no one's asking any questions. I have tons of this is a huge event This is not just like wow look at that cool video which is the way The media is treating it so again all the 33s, I get the way the media is treating it you know it's like I start to get like really really antsy because this is not insignificant and The timing of the thing. The meteor shower in Russia, the asteroid some 17 thousand miles away I think everyone really has two questions here first of all is there a connection here and is there a difference between a meteor shower and an asteroid? Help us out! So when the mainstream media is asking these questions I'm happy but they're asking it of the frickin idiot with the bow tie

30:53 Oh yeah, so there's no connection in a sense they are independent orbits but there is a connection in the sense that they're both primordial objects in the solar system that cross... Yeah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Shut up already! Science! Exactly, so Bill Nye The Science Guy you know he was like oh wait blehblehbleh There's no connection okay There is definitely a connection and I think it's not that hard to figure out. And in fact, it is the elites of... The elites—I can name them and I shall name them who are directly responsible for not this one but for three events that took place. And I'm going to connect these dots for you which for some reason just is not allowed to be done because if we knew the truth would all be freaking out

31:43 Asteroids, which turn when pieces of it or when they break into the atmosphere become meteorites are extremely valuable. If you have a little piece of meteorite rock, that's valuable. There are people who go out and look for these all the time. Oh yeah there are meteorite hunters and if you get a big enough one they could be worth millions of dollars. Millions of dollars! About a year ago to date this was the news report They are some of the most influential and wealthiest men on the planet. Google's Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, director James Cameron, X Prize founder Peter Diamandis and billionaire Ross Perot Jr., together these power players along with a number

32:33 incredible minds plan to take on outer space. If you put two Google billionaires with a Microsoft billionaire and some astronauts together, you can't go wrong! Just what they're up to is still a mystery. They've announced they are forming a new space exploration company to expand Earth's resource base creating a new industry and new definition of natural resources What does that mean? Diamandis gave Forbes this hint. Since my childhood, I've wanted to do one thing be an asteroid miner That's right! Okay

33:10 So, the... well actually she'll say it. Asteroid mining! NASA is an agency to nowhere and so we need private enterprise especially people with deep pockets to help jumpstart the program and maybe mining the heavens is just the ticket Okay, these guys started a company with that guy who you heard saying he wanted be in asteroid miner He's the X-Prize guy And their company, their idea was or is to get the incredible... We're talking billions of dollars off an asteroid because of the minerals that are on it. I mean it's just unbelievable how much riches can be found in an asteroid

33:53 So NASA spearheaded this idea of tractor beaming, they call it a bezel beam. B-E-S-S-E-L I think the bezel beam of tractor beaming an asteroid and being able to control where it will crash so you could then go and get it So these A-holes knew that this thing was, so there's a definite connection with this AD 13 2012 asteroid which came really close. They're all like oh wow we got to get the tractor beam on this thing and you can call me nuts but all of this is pretty well documented. So they actually... Wait, wait where is it well documented? What the tractor beam or you can just look at NASA's website I have all the links in the show notes. Okay yeah no not NASA being... Keep going on your own. NASA has been of the three laser approach were they trying to tractor beam the uh i'm just calling a tractor beam but that you know trying to control the orbit of the asteroid and control it to crash into controlled fashion so they know where to go and get it and hopefully so doesn't land on someone's house

34:56 So they tried to do this with this asteroid and it actually, they wound up either splitting pieces of it off three times. If you Google Rodas Cienfuegos in Cuba they had an asteroid explode on the 13th February or a meteorite I should say, they had the exact same event. Then we had the one in Russia and right after that they tried it over Northern California John Now I don't know if it crashed or where it crashed, no one has reported on that. But they tried to get this thing three times and all they were successful at is breaking off chunks of it with their stupid lasers and those are now exploding into our atmosphere That's what happened here And for some reason we can't talk about the other two events We can't talk about what happened over Northern California We can't talk about what happened over Cuba No one is talking about that!

35:56 And no one is connecting the fact that these a-holes are trying to tractor beam these asteroids and they're putting us at risk. So it's kind of like a space war. Well, borderline second half of show material but we do know that everything you said is accurate But you piece it together in a unique way that makes it sound... Awesome. And I would say that the coincidence is not that elusive, I mean I feel the same way about it You have this crazy asteroid which by the way may have been guided

36:36 Yes. Early on to get so close, yeah? Because that's pretty close I mean imagine you know with the vastness of space that this thing comes between it comes beneath at 17,000 feet it comes beneath where most of our communication satellites are and could have hit one but that's another long shot. Then I'm nuts, I'm just looking at the chat room. Yeah but the moon landing happened! The moon landing happened and I should believe all that but this story is not- is crazy? Now I'm crazy?! You can't have it both ways people

37:30 So anyway, we do know they're working on this stuff and everybody does know that these things are worth a lot of money. And I'm still concerned though there's a couple minor issues here...I'm still concerned about the piece that sloughed off or was busted off or was cracked off for who knows that hit Russia at 33,000 miles an hour and formed a perfect hole in the lake. No they didn't find anything! They didn't find anything in the lake they just showed a hole on television they didn't find anything like oh we can't find anything this is a hole some guy was fishing for beaver earlier or whatever like ice fishing it's just a whole or they made this bullshit there's no meteorite that came down there this is showing you shit on TV I can't believe your falling for it

38:15 I didn't say that I'm falling for it. I believe something happened in Russia, but I don't believe that hole in the ice has anything to do with it because it doesn't make any sense! No, I think the meteorite story of it exploding is probably true now whether they shot out of the sky or whatever or if it explodes upon impact with the atmosphere I really... They're not shooting anything out of the sky at head speed. I think that this is happening because they are messing with these asteroids trying to get them and chunks are breaking off, but why is no one talking about what happened in Cuba? Why is no one talking about what happened over Northern California, San Francisco? It's not newsworthy? Is it not the same event? Are we...? I don't get it!

39:01 Well, they have meteor showers every so often too. There's lots of these things and you know people just don't talk about meteors They're not gonna nobody's gonna think that what your come this Thing you've dreamed up by piece putting dots together that may or may not be connected It's just that there's no way... How do you prove any of this? Oh but prove we were on the moon! Prove that we are on Mars What what how do you prove any of it How do you prove that it was... I wasn't there. How do you even prove that it wasn't just a television fakery? You can't go down that road with me, you know better than that! Well then we can't prove anything this is just living in the world of dreams Correct There we have it This why I said after Sandy Hook this show has no value for me It's over Because I'm computer generated I'm not real, I'm really talking to you If I could be speaking to Hal I could be speaking to Watson

40:07 Yes, go to the doctor. Anyway so you know look it's better than just showing the video over and over again and going well wasn't that incredible? No one I mean come on 30-33 times the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima this is not an insignificant thing to gloss over No, I agree and if it's that you know was about 750 kilotons. I can't remember is less than a megaton Yeah, or as maybe even far less than that yeah It was something like I don't know whatever it was it was enough to flatten the city and if this is 33 times bigger it should have taken, it should have been like that tree event. Tunguska? It's not a singular at least, Mount St Helens Yeah and how come the science guy... Not a hole! A perfectly round hole in the lake that people point out and go oh look at the hole its perfectly round! Its like the silhouette of the planes in The Twin Towers Like Wile E Coyote

41:09 You know? You know how the wings melted into those steel buildings, that was cool. It's just like that hole in the ice. Right... you're re-org'ing this show! Nooo! Look I didn't make up this meteorite. Y'know, I didn't invent this thing to happen This is not second half of the show material, this is top of the news over and over again. I mean come on it's top of the news! I would have gone second half No no no well you know what? I can edit out of order. No no you're not editing it Hey in the morning to you John C Dvorak In the morning do you Adam Curry and in the morning to all his ships at sea

41:48 Boots on the ground and subs in the water also the feet in the air and then dames and knights out there And you know big in the morning to Martin JJ for producing the artwork for the previous episode of The best podcast in universe no agenda show No, agenda art generator comm is up-and-running it accepts new submissions new artists can get on board Thank you very much for Paul For fixing us up there and getting that back up and running and we can't wait to see what we're gonna have later on And, you know as I said amidst all of the...amidst all of this craziness that's going on we're moving to a new house and I need a name for it actually. I can't be calling it Camp MoFo anymore since this is kind of the camp and now we're moving in town. I need some suggestions for a new name." I don't have anything

42:44 I don't even have a good name for my own operation. What do you mean? You have the Buzzkill Bunker, I like that! Yeah it's up north. Oh okay well how about... It's in northern Silicon Valley but you know Why don't we just call it The Vault The Vault?! Your place? No your place. No it's not The Vault. Yeah because it is your archive everything there is an archive I'm an archivist. Or we could call it the den... From the Archive, The Buzzkill Archive! Or we could call it The Den as in the Hamster Den No no no dens. I like the buzz kill- Not in the Midwest with a den. Oh wait go ahead. I'll meet you in the den Chip Biff. I'm biff. Biff? Well then maybe we keep it at uh... Yeah do put up the name for your own place before you start projecting to me So sorry didn't know you were gonna get all huffy about it

43:35 Alright, so I ended up do we have you any let's see our executive producers here. We do have a few good Let's do that when we open the spreadsheet. Oh, here's a good one Adams luxury house yeah That's great chat room go fuck yourself Adams luxury house Cottage and if we didn't get the mansion by the way that for that fell through that wonderful deal What I like is your soak jacked up in giddy And it's only they have the rug pulled out from underneath while these Texans are going, eh we got another city slicker. Suckered! Ha! They didn't get no money out of me though... Yet Sir Jason we want to thank from Marlton New Jersey 488. Sir Jason here asking for some

44:28 Courtroom Karma, I need all the help. I can get no further comments keep up the good work Wow okay well of course we always want to hook a Jersey boy up and he is coming in with The magic number for the show 4 8 8 thank you very much here You go with some courtroom karma. You've got karma Drone target 33. I think that's a good name for it. Who is it drone target number? 33 Yeah Adam City Slicker Chateau I think you should get some of that reflective that IR paint and put a big X on the roof No target not an exit target Adams city slicker chateau the crackpot cabana. It's my bad. That's pretty good I'm liking now one man the crack pot Cabana

45:22 The bunga-bunga bum bungalow. No, I don't like that crackpot cabana. That's kind of cool. Well, yeah Wilford Kessler in Lebanon Pennsylvania 288 he'll be associate executive producer for showed 488 yesterday evening I went out for a walk in the park with my son Wilford is 288. Yeah said to 88 you said sure 488 and you said yeah Okay I think you said it wrong. Doesn't matter. No, no if you listen to the tape You'll see I said 288 then I said yeah Let me rewind let me rewind the tape okay? Let me just Rewind the reel-to-reel

46:02 I'll rewind that tape. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Yesterday evening we went for a walk in the park with my son and we noticed someone sitting at a picnic table wearing an I'm Not Dorner t-shirt and no agenda cap. This is in Lebanon Pennsylvania we should mention. And a No Agenda Cap worn backwards! As we approached I could see a wire strung up in the tree. A fellow no agenda ham! Awesome He appeared to be operating an SDR rig and his voice strangely familiar as i muttered something about a repeater, I called out to him ITM brother What kind of rigor you running there? he replied this is my curry fry hooked up to a raspberry pie working some dudes QRP on the JT65

46:52 Hey now! As he turned his head and winked, I realized it was John. At this point i knew it was a dream and woke in feverish sweat. Ha! Not before Leo's head appearing shouting Denyer! Repu-can in a revering manning voice Geez, what the hell is a NyQuil in these... What's in a NyQuil these days? Just some moving pharma for Adam and Mickey. Please hope this SDR project is going well! It's going very well thank you I've connected the Wi-Fi portion so it actually now I'm getting a Lego box from my prototype and uh So I can put it all into one nice little enclosure And then I'm gonna pitch it to a couple guys and see if we can get it made

47:36 I shall be doing a screencast, I guess of this soon. It's pretty cool. He needs you to get karma. Yeah we'll take it thank you. You've got karma Sir Philip Flick in Santa Fe New Mexico 266 69 Hey Adam and John, my donations recently have been meek. It's tricky financing a wedding without the help of paparazzi money but after careful budgeting and plenty of mac & cheese at the eager behest of her royal highness I'm honored and humbled to be able to donate to The Best Podcast in Universe. I appreciate hearing some stories about how lousy providers

48:17 How lousy providers visits are. Yeah, doctor, doctor, doctor provider, doctor Oh okay how lousy providers visits are and dealings with insurance companies as my situation doesn't seem as bad as it used to be before First off I'd like to make a special request since i'm over 6'6 instead of being called Sir Philip Flick at the no agenda roundtable I would instead rather be titled Sir Tallest Knight I don't know about that. Yeah, I think you do. Any knights out there that are taller than 6'6", let us know! Next I would like as a mac and cheese Dr Kiki Karma for my upcoming wedding and the success of the CPA exam. Sincerely Sir Tallest Knight. You slaves can get used to Mac & Cheese! Mac & Cheese! Mac & Cheese! Macaroni and cheese with cheddar melted together! Mac & Cheese! Mac & Cheese! Shut up already! Science!

49:13 You've got karma $9 comes from the juiced writers Tora Harris actually from San Diego California have been a boner since show one. Wow, long time owner yeah A few shows back you mentioned the utility bicycle and that's why no one makes one well we make exactly such a thing at Juice Writers Inc oh! We even have an electric model that can go over 40 miles on a 10 cent charge please mention my bike startup JuicedWriters.com, we listen all the time in the shop. Please de-douche me and one hit of car... You know most of the guys who have been boners for 488 shows do not get a de-douching and they mostly say I'm not clear yet to be de-douched

50:05 So you want to give him a deducing or not? Uh, yeah. I'll give him the de- I'm just looking at his uh...I love the dichotomy This is these look kind of dorky these electric bikes. I've seen them around Yeah ummm.... I love the dichotomy of freedom of control That's very funny. I like that yeah i'll deduce him and give some comments You've been Deduced I love the payload on there. What are these? These can't be cheap, these things gotta be expensive Oh just a bicycle... it looks kind of... It's got- what i like is the carrier in the back Is really part of the frame so its really You know, it's a hardcore utility bike Its very nice actually

50:58 Oh that. I've seen these things, it's got a battery pack in it yeah It's a nice bike Yeah I bet you cost $100 what does it cost let's see hundred thousand dollars yeah sure That's not what we had in mind Where did we go wrong? A good nice bike though. I wish you karma with your With your eye with your operation a little too rich for my this is this is for hipster douchebags hipster douchebags JC and Jesse buzzkill jr.. And his fiance Whoa

51:40 What? Fiancee. He's always been the fiance, I said that before. Oh no! No no no no... You weren't paying attention to me It was girlfriend before. I know- Girlfriend is a better word for me but anyway let's go back to what i was going to say they were in Detroit for a week because her father had a birthday or something oh she's from Detroit and he says that the hipsters in the area are all black yeah black hipsters yeah And they're all over Detroit and they have a completely different take on everything. That, you know hipsters see things differently They see the world through hipster eyes But the idea of black hipsters to me is just unbelievably ludicrous Well I don't understand...I mean what do you mean?

52:25 I see hipsters, I've seen... Because in California we deal with blacks that are around Oakland and they wouldn't be drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon. You're so full of crap! What are you talking about? There's not a black hipster in the area. What are you talking about?! How about the guy at Mevio who was doing design he was a black hipster. Are you insane!? The designer guy, the... We had black hipsters all the time. Anyone who worked at Mevia was a hipster! We had Indian hipsters we had Chinese hipsters What are you talking about? That's bullshit! What are you talking about your concept- You ever see them with their show Portlandia where they're highlighted No I'm sorry i don't have time for that I'm watching C-Span

53:09 Yeah. Hipsters... I'm not sure that you know what a hipster is? I certainly do know what a hipster is. Challenge your sociological insight on this What IS a hipster then, tell me A hipster is someone who ummm is borderline douchebag but has cooler toys to go with it There is a... I'm telling you, but hipster is not determined by color. I just disagree. I don't think that there's... I'm saying it! There are black hipsters in Detroit and they're not around here. I didn't say there weren't any. I just thought it was odd because it doesn't make sense to anyone from California that there'd be a black hipster

53:51 Yeah, well now you're getting into a socio-economic conversation where the milieu as you like to call it. Where you travel in just has very few black people You just face it your cracker with cracker friends and a cracker milieu And you live in Crackerville In northern crackin' Crackinfornia. Seriously! That's okay, weird now I just want to find out if you knew what a hipster was and apparently you don't. James Von Aitken in Temple Texas... Stop stop what is it? What is a hipster? You tell me then. I don't know. $200 dollars that'll usually go on Wikipedia as a bigger definition there. No no no I don't know. You tell me. I TM John and Adam It's a bonus time at my job since you two knuckleheads keep me thoroughly educated and entertained while I slave through my day. You've earned your piece of the pie

54:39 Please give my wife a MILF LGY as she is incubating our next human resource and I would assume he wants a karma with that. MILF! That's one mother i'd like to f*** You've got Karma Um, I'm stunned So I guess... Why? Did he wanted a MILF LGY? I guess LGY has become an acceptable term now I'm just stunned that you're like, I just wanted to see if you knew what a hipster was. What is this bullshit? Do tell me- I didn't say that! That's what you JUST said!! No, I said YOU DON'T know what a hipster is or what it's just. John okay You just said...I would just wanted to see if you knew what a hipster was. You literally just said that. You have to rewind the tape to prove that to me

55:29 And then I say, well what is it then? I don't know. And I'm waiting for you to tell me and you tell me go to Wikipedia It's a subculture Right! It is extremely complex. It's not just some guys with whatever you said good taste and they dress well or whatever the two of them are I didn't say any of that! I didn't say any of that Well, didn't say what you said again I said...it's like a douchebag with better toys That's what I said And then you're like, well I just wanted to see if you knew what a hipster is. Well excuse me! But I said, I don't think hipster is only white. And you know at Detroit it's a pretty... especially after the demise of the city it's an urban black community so of course you're gonna have hipsters there but if hipsters every I mean I just didn't understand what you were saying and now it's like no you don't know who the hipster is well tell me what did he you can't tell me either

56:29 Well, I'll read it from the Urban Dictionary. Oh well okay if you want to cheat sure Of course! Okay...I told you it's a complex subculture It's nothing you can just say two things they're douchebags with better toys I mean that is not what a hipsterism but I understand what a douchebag with better toys is But that seems more like a Silicon Valley guy They're all that Okay then tell me what it is You know, you actually have to read it. This is longer than the longest messages...you really have to read this or I don't know, I mean I can spot a hipster when we see one of those hipster bars in Berkeley

57:08 Anyway, thank you all very much. in San Francisco and all of Portland by my dad which is not in here this is not a good definition. I'm done with it, I don't care You brought up this thing in the middle of the donation segment I was going to tell you some funny stuff that he came across but you wouldn't let me It's not funny Black hipsters they're all over the place they're everywhere! And completely whatever I was gonna say He doesn't even remember what you were gonna say

57:55 You said it, you said all the hipsters were black and I was like that's what you interrupted the donation segment for? I'm sorry. That's all and there was more there was something related to it I just didn't get it Yeah because you wouldn't let me finish Okay No, wait that's all we have for an executive producers for show 488 I want to remind people go to Dvorak org slash na to hear more of this bickering come back to the show on Thursday We'll have another live presentation at 9 but we do need some help. So give us a Some thought channel devore comm slash NA The no agenda show calm and no agenda nation calm have donate buttons you can click on those Dvorak dot-org slash

58:40 If you're a hipster or not, you can always go out and propagate the formula. Put your hat on backwards! Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up! Okay I got one for ya. I have an Ask Adam Oh gee, I don't know man. I'm not really feeling the love right now Okay..we won't do it then You know because uh-I'm not letting you say whatever incredibly funny thing you're gonna say And I'm denying you Oh quit bickering Oh okay

59:32 Alright, so while you were doing... While you're sitting there sulking for some unknown reason. And by the way, you could look up the Hipster and Doolo Research I was spending all my time listening to hearings on the military budget and i have never seen anything like these guys complaining bitterly but in the process of listening to all the hearings they found out a couple interesting things because these guys can't stop talking and so they kind of throw in certain kinds of weird information out of the blue And I got a couple clips here, maybe you can figure this out. Play the talking too much clip and tell me what this might be about. Yeah thanks Senator and I should mention by the way that in addition to the effect on Pacific of the Army we're also... We were in process of moving significant Marine United States Marine Corps forces into the Pacific and General Amos can speak to that What? They are moving Marines to the Pacific

1:00:38 Why? I don't know. I thought that was peculiar, but also it's peculiar he is talking out of class. Unlike your snide remark, i did watch these hearings all day actually as i was packing And the only thing that is going on, well there's only two things going on here. One is someone at some point in the history of the United States Armed Forces decided it would be cooler if the generals epaulets were instead of on their shoulders were going over their shoulders I don't know when this started but it makes them look very cool like they're in Starfleet command or something

1:01:23 So this is the one thing that's happened. The second thing is they're all up there bullshitting about increase, cuts in their increase and spending and they are trying to frighten everyone by saying oh we won't have a war machine we won't be able to protect the homeland or the terrorists are gonna get the airplanes it's all gonna become crashing down were all going to die if you sequester us! That's all I saw over and over again Yes, exactly. But the play that what here's a couple different ones I got these guys these guys are whining and you have to realize that this sequester well let's get the actual what is the number of what played 46 billion is the number okay for some reason my pad is not cooperating

1:02:13 The problem comes in two tiers. The first is that sequestration, which is scheduled to kick-in just two weeks time requires us to subtract from our budget for the remainder of fiscal year 13 46 billion dollars Okay now if you keep that in mind and you realize it the budget for 2013 is 615 billion That is 7%. Right. So now play Air Force 30% and tell them, and try to deconstruct what they're saying if it's seven percent why are they going nuts? That deprives our air force of over 31.5 million man-hours of productivity in specialized expertise this year

1:03:02 it will result in a loss of over 200,000 flying hours. While we will protect flying operations in Afghanistan and other contingency areas nuclear deterrence and initial flight training roughly two-thirds of our active duty combat Air Force units will curtail home station training beginning in March and will drop below acceptable readiness levels by mid May most will be completely non mission capable by July Sequestration will cut 30% of our remaining weapon system sustainment funds, which means we'll need to postpone approximately 150 aircraft and 85 engines from depot induction creating a backlog that could take years for us to recover. The Air Force's global vigilance reach and power make it one of America's premier asymmetric advantages but strategic agility and responsiveness require a high state of readiness. Sacrificing that readiness jeopardizes the many strategic advantages of airpower

1:03:54 And from a parochial Air Force perspective, sequestration will have an immediate effect on our ability to respond to multiple concurrent operations around the globe. Something we've been asked to do many times in the past along with our sister services. Longer term, sequestration cuts to Air Force modernization will impact every one of our investment programs These program disruptions will over time cost more taxpayer dollars to rectify contract breaches and time delay inefficiencies, raise unit costs and delayed delivery of validated capabilities to warfighters in the field. You're all gonna die! He's gonna die... We're all gonna die 7% how does seven percent equate to cutting back everything by two-thirds? And then dropping like firing 30 percent of everybody well what I'm not got get a pen and try to explain to me how seven percent equates to what he just said

1:04:44 No, it doesn't. And the whole thing is... and there was repeats of it this morning It's just irksome! It's just irksome that people are sitting up there lying and I mean come on man, it's a freaking show They're in Congress and people are asking them stupid questions they don't give a crap Have you watched House Of Cards yet? Have you been able to see that episode? This would be like number 78 Right, I only mentioned... My doctor. I go to see my doctors just a regular routine appointment and he asks me if i went to- If I've seen House of Cards Your provider It's like it must be the most popular show in the world You're provider you mean

1:05:24 My provider. Yes, your provider well no but it specifically shows you how um how it works you know which bases get closed which it's look they're just they're not even lying about it the military the military industrial complex is the single largest employer in the United States and maybe in the universe. I mean this is our economy, this is everything so when it's 200 you know look these it's an across-the-board cut so it's just like you don't get to like

1:06:00 you know, get rid of a couple drones. You know it's everything its employment so of course this has been the setup from day one I'm convinced with the United States is meant to go into a spiral and this by the way was the president's idea It was his idea this sequestration. Now he denies it. It's his idea! I mean, come on we all saw... We all heard him and that was his idea and if he is the Antichrist here to take us down into the blackest hole of death So here's the Undersecretary of State now again remember 7%

1:06:42 Somehow he equates this with 20% Wait a minute And then by the way, then he's gonna become a martyr and I guarantee he'll never do what he says in this one-fifth give back clip Oh here it is. Okay? Institute a process of furloughing them which we will do consistent with the law and our requirements to you. But the net of it is that many of them will be furloughed for as many as 22 days before April 1st, say in the end of year. In other words a fifth of their paycheck gone So that's a real human impact and I've said

1:07:23 I can't be furloughed under the law because i'm a presidential appointee but, im going to give back 1 5th of my salary in the last 7 months of the year if other people are getting sequestered. Bull crap! So now one fifth of your salary is 20% how does that equate with the 7%, which is what the calculation for the sequester is? Alright, so now I understand why you mock me and all that because you had to do all this work. You should...I should just let you start the show every single time so that you're in the right mind frame. Move it along! I get it they're lying what's next? What's the next lie? Okay well I just want to do the big lie then

1:08:08 Okay, we have a defense budget of 618 billion dollars. Play the 687 billion dollar clip I Understand mr.. Chairman and i've long understood that the department of defense must contribute to the resolution of the nation's fiscal situation And that is why we have accommodated 487 billion dollars in cuts Last year. What? Wait a minute, let me play that back Let me rewind the tape, hold on Dollars. Oh crap I have to rewind even further Situation and that is why we have accommodated 487 billion dollars in cuts Maybe he's talking about over a 10-year period because that's what it seems He specifically says last year

1:09:03 uh... last year yeah but i think and i think he's saying that last year they accommodated for the four hundred eighty seven billion cuts over a ten-year period but it sounds good this way and before that under secretary gates of made uh... several hundred billion dollars of additional cuts in defense spending largely by removing unneeded or underperforming programs we're also making as you referenced uh... second So he says there's another $200 billion that we've taken out of the budget for unnecessary programs. How is that a cut? I have a house across the street that is burning to the ground, and I think I should sell it because I never go there or use it. It's not necessary that I own it. Yeah! It's bull crap!

1:09:56 But it's not getting any play, you see? Because we've had asteroids exploding and people pooping in bags on ship decks. No one cares anymore! They don't care! So the question that has always been on my mind... I got two more things to point out here The question that has always been on my mind is why the Republicans turned on their own Chuck Hagel oh because he's an a-hole and the guy is a confused baboon I think you've bought into it well my one thing One of the things that keeps coming up. Oh, well He doesn't know how to manage his way out of a paper bag this is the world's biggest corporation? He doesn't know how to manage anything It's just it's a figurehead job no. I think something else I am what I actually believe Is that

1:10:46 this guy's meant to fail they've got someone waiting in the wings is kind of the condoleezza rice uh... at that time the susan rice says strategy let someone you know throw someone out there was meant to fail and then pop up somewhere because john kerry boom he got confirmed guys in that that took no no time at all for that big water had to get in there and immediately you know they turn around his wife sold everything to buffett It's all coincidental, I'm sure. I think it's because the guy is a threat And this is an interesting part of the hearings. Mike Lee, that guy from Utah who I think is just hilarious... He brought up something that first of all this is the Senate so the Senate's run by the Democrats so they won't give any Republican much time to do anything So Mike Lee has told them make sure he's within the timeframe because they got to get to this woman who just comes on essentially

1:11:41 does everything short of uh... and she just throws roses at that these guys in the you know that they were the rush to her so he's asked actually really good question he gets it out of his mouth within now one minute and ten seconds going to the tape He asked for the Joint Chiefs to say something about this. They never do that, that assistant secretary...the undersecretary The guy who just said they saved $687 billion last year He hogs the next two minutes with a bunch of bullshit which I cut short. I just cut it off But what's really funny is when he asks the question and he asks the Joint Chiefs to say something they all kind of giggle

1:12:20 So this is the Mike Lee versus clip? Yeah. Questions, so please if you would Senator Lee stick right to that so senator Gillibrand will be next Great thank you very much Mr Chairman and I will be as brief as i can possibly be here On December in December 2012 Senator Chuck Hagel the nominee to become the Secretary of Defense sat for an interview with Financial Times when he was asked about outgoing Secretary Panetta's comments that budget sequestration would be disastrous to national defense. Senator Hagel replied as follows, the Defense Department I think in many ways has been bloated. The Defense Department has gotten everything it wanted for the last 10 years and more we've taken priorities we've taken dollars we taken programs policies out of the State Department out a number of other departments and put them over in defense

1:13:10 The abuse and waste, the fraud is astounding. I think the Pentagon needs to be pared down. We need the Pentagon to look at their own priorities. We are pressed for time so if you could have each of the Joint Chiefs go down the line and just briefly if you can answer with a yes or no whether you agree with this general characterization that Senator Hagel made that would be great Let me, I'm not a member of the Joint Chiefs so let me try. It's a good question it's fair question and I don't...I can't speak for Senator Hagel but

1:13:56 Okay, little anticlimactic so he doesn't I know because it just it's all he does is drone on about Nothing and then the time is done in that not one joint chief guy when any of the Chiefs have any good Anything it's predictions John C. DeMora, what do you think will happen? Nothing! No I mean you have to so the they have like 10 days or two weeks or whatever and then if if we haven't worked out a which in which will not happen I'm sure then sequestration goes into what do you think will it be another kick-it kicked the can down the road that's my bet yeah yeah how will they do at this time though just with some new phony baloney legislation

1:14:42 I have no idea. They always have a new trick up their sleeves. Well, this is what we were warned for. We were warned about the military-industrial complex and here you are as it's taken over in 2001 Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9-11 said hey, there's two trillion dollars unaccounted for at the Pentagon And of course there still no no audit. No one knows what's going on But here in the United States of Gitmo Nation we're perfectly happy with that and because you know We've got our house of cards on our Netflix and we can go see the fake version of what's going on? Everyone is pacified and history is told through the telescreens

1:15:23 You know, Lincoln that's exactly how it went down. We're going to put that DVD into all the schools and teach all the little slaves exactly how its working except for the few people and I say few who listen to this program and there are others but not many and we're dwindling and understand you are totally living inside The Matrix and this is all one big show So watching this and then playing the clips, you know to cut them down a little bit. Something emerged that I thought was another thing out of class that...I didn't know about this, but I've heard about it

1:16:05 It's like kind of baffling we know about the new world order and all this sort of thing But there was this thing called the defense strategy, and I have three clips This is the first time it was mentioned or the second one of the two but this is the first mention I have here First mention of a defense strategy And then kind of piqued my interest okay return what you have this year in the next few months as a true crisis in military readiness If the caps imposed that accompany sequester are continued for the next 10 years, as is the plan in the Budget Control Act

1:16:44 We were going to have to change our national defense strategy. Those cuts are too large, too sustained for us to implement the strategy that we crafted under the president's guidance just one year ago." Oh wait a minute is this a Gantt chart I've missed somewhere? Did someone have... Yeah i think you have Is there a powerpoint of this defense strategy what does it here's what I think the strategy is as a big funnel And that funnel is all of the human resources of America go in that funnel and there's meat, pink slime comes out the bottom which feeds their machine. Well that's possible but it turns out... Let's play this second mention again of the defense strategies apparently they're really preoccupied with this is the problem whatever this is

1:17:33 Of equal concern, we will irreversibly damage the industrial base that we depend upon to build and maintain our ships and aircraft. Under these circumstances, we assess your Navy will be limited in its ability to provide the capability and capacity called for in the current defense strategy. The Navy will be unable to execute all of the naval force requirements of the combatant commanders." Yeah, the National Defense Strategy seems to be out there. Seems to be very clear what this is. It's pretty big. Right and it turns out that the Marine guy who seems just a stiff character who is very serious about everything he outlines a defense strategy that I didn't know we had! Where does he do... in which tape does he do this? It says Defense Strategy Outlined. Ooh, that one. Risk

1:18:25 Risk to our strategy, risk to our forces, risk to our people and lastly risk to our nation. Regarding strategy maintaining a free international economic system and adjust international order are linchpins toward defense strategic guidance. Heil everybody! The effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed. You can see the effects of the global order being disturbed in roller coaster energy prices, fluctuating global markets, sovereign behavior and economic uncertainty. You must stop with sovereign behavior! You must all give your sovereignty to us! Failing to provide leadership

1:19:08 and the collective security of this global order would have significant economic consequences for the American people. Worse, a lapse in American leadership would create a void in which old threats would be unaddressed and new security challenges would find room to grow." Alright here it is... By the way I wasn't ready for it now wait a minute! That is an evergreen. That is an evergreen! This is... I mean, this is Hitler! This guy's Hitler! Literally!

1:19:51 David, do you hear what he's saying? Yes I know and by the way if you'd if I clipped the rest of this which is went on and on not well this was the main part. He uses the same sovereignty gag you just said about he says the sovereignty issue it's a problem! You know in other words these other countries they have to kowtow to us on a new global order so we keep our prices low. That's unbelievable Yeah, this is it. This ladies and gentlemen...this is the true president of the United States speaking to you! Who's this guy? This is the head, uh... the chief of the Marines. Oh okay! He's- he's the big boss! He knows what's going on. Well he shouldn't have said this I thought that he was out of school or play whatever that term is where you're talking outside the You know your outside the ring and your letting it- you're letting the truth out. Oops No but its a written statement. He's reading from a written statement It's obviously that his obviously reading But I mean

1:20:49 You know what, do you mind if we just do it again and take it bit by bit? Because this is the way that the President of the United States really is representing. He is... Of course all presidents are figureheads but these are the guys who really run the show By the way, coincidentally the ones who have all the guns. Risk to our strategy, risk to our forces, risk to our people and lastly risk to our nation So notice who's last? The nation It's risk to his strategy, risk to his people, risk to his arms, risk all of his stuff. And then lastly he even says and then lastly the bottom you know right behind where I poop on that's the nation So this is the arrogance and hubris in this cocksucker regarding strategy

1:21:41 Maintaining a free international economic system and adjust international order are linchpins to our defense strategic guidance. Now when he says, when he says free does mean like free as in beer or does he mean free as in our way? What do you think? You know this whole thing was I've listened to this clip a lot of myself and it's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard that I don't know what he means. I think the word free... There's no freedom, you know essentially we're forcing this is the old well as long as they form a democracy that we approve of and oh we'll make sure that the right guy gets elected Exactly! That's exactly what it is It's like you will be free

1:22:25 Freedom is slavery. Slavery is freedom, black as white this is double speak so free means you have to be free of tyrants and whatever else we can free you from that's what I totally agree the effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed in roller coaster energy prices fluctuating global markets sovereign behavior and economic uncertainty So first of all... Sovereign behavior? There are two things were in there one Screw the free market because this causes these up and down spikes in prices which is what a free market capitalist system does. Exactly, always And by the way he should be blowing up the gas station dudes The refineries I mean they're setting the prices And another bad thing that he mentions in that little clip you should play again Sovereign behavior Don't be so... are you crazy? Are you trying to be sovereign

1:23:22 So this means a number of things. Can I tell you that there's a double meaning to this? Have you heard of the sovereign man movement Yeah, that's part of this. That I'm telling you when you because of course you want to your sovereign? I'm sovereign every human being should be a sovereign person This will get us droned this is this he it's a problem that people are behaving like they're sovereign not just nations Because he doesn't say sob did he say sovereign nations or just say sovereign behavior behavior behavior So if you're just you're just trying to be a sovereign human being you need to submit slavish risk

1:23:58 Risk to our strategy risk to our forces Risk to our people. I'm sorry, I went back. I rerun the tape a little too far but it's good and lastly risk to our nation regarding strategy. He uses the word lastly. Yeah, I told you it's like lastly the bottom underneath the poop. Maintaining a free international economic system and adjust international order are linchpins to... I love that just international order just is going to be fair and righteous and just according to our rules for defense strategic guidance The effects of disruption to this global order are readily observed in roller coaster energy prices, fluctuating global markets, sovereign behavior and economic uncertainty. I'm telling you his sovereign behavior he's talking about people trying to be... He is not talking about countries!

1:24:48 This is, you're right this is the drone clause. Failing to provide leadership in the collective security of this global order... We are coming for your bicycles! Would have significant economic consequences for the American people Wow wow Worse, a lapse in American leadership would create a void in which old threats would be unaddressed and new security challenges would find room to grow. Now this is very interesting, I think something big he's saying the lack of leadership in other words you know if we get rid of the president or if the lame duck basically the president has no say in the matter then I think he's saying that there will be chaos like martial law

1:25:41 or you know one of the this is the stuff that makes people crazy by the way. This kind of talk. Consequences for the American people. Okay, help me with this last bit John. Before we go into that deconstruction there's something he said in there I just thought of He says, the basis of what he's even talking about is this sequestration thing and the other guy same thing. Is going to screw up this so-called defense strategy which it not a defense strategy it's very aggressive It's a money making strategy You call something a strategy or defense is really offense an offensive strategy Yeah, go kick everyone's ass and take their shit. He says that there is this crazy fluctuations... Wait a minute! In the gas prices for example. Crazy! It's crazy we've got to stop that

1:26:29 But they're already, right as we speak all the fluctuations have taken place before this sequestration. So they haven't done anything about it in other words we had all this... We had a big budget and now gas prices are flying around which is no good and now it's gonna start to get started the gas price going to start flying around which is no good if they take some more money away from us No, that's not true I think he saying something different I think he was clearly said that were seeing evidence of this lack of leadership is already leading to what we have in the world and we need to continue on the path, our strategy to stop the crazy free market system and the sovereign citizen system. The sovereign citizen movement. We have to stop that! That's what I'm hearing him say. It's like you know...we're on a mission This is the mission! This is why were in Africa. This is why were all over Asia. This is why where all over the Middle East

1:27:27 These guys truly believe that in order for America, their America, their Stars and Stripes and apple pie and no anal sex America. That has to be annihilated. We have to have calm and peace and smooth sailing, a glass ocean and a nice breeze... And none of this crazy stuff that is caused by ARABs! I mean these guys are insane John! This guy should be taken out of his job immediately and locked in irons! These people are dangerous! And here's the kicker kind of this guy they headed the chief of the Marines? The Chief of Staff of the Marines

1:28:07 The earlier clip by the Joint Chiefs of Staff head, that little guy Gabby Hayes. They're moving the Marines to Asia? Remember the earlier clip? Yes yes yes yes Something is up. The Mediterranean specifically I thought he said. Thought it was the Mediterranean No no He says they are moving the marines to Asia Let's just listen to it again Yeah, thanks senator and I should mention by the way that in addition to the effect in the Pacific of the army we're also We were process of moving Significant marine United States Marine Corps forces into the Pacific and mean general Amos can speak to that though The Pacific okay well they're training with the Japanese so I'm pretty sure that uh? We're doing you know. You know what we're training with a Japanese right Did you know that Hillary was apparently over in Japan is there one of her last missions to

1:29:00 to goad the Japanese into changing their constitution so they can have a full-blown army? In other words, right now they can only have defensive forces and now they're considering... Instead of the D.O.D., it should be the D.O.O.? I like what you said there's the Department of Offense. We don't have a department of defense we would department offense well used to be a Department of offense it was called the war department oh well, we need that again I think so should go back and call it the Department of Defense the War Department which is used to be called but we didn't have any wars Department of Krieg their Krieg their Krieg Department now know what was it called

1:29:46 the war department or department right well let's just call war department then but that these people are dangerously insane and it's been played the last ten minutes where he saying that would be it's all going to go to shit worse collapse in american leadership would create a void in which old threats would be on address ok so all i get it so he collapsed an american leadership leadership he means uh... killing people offensively all over the globe that says version of leadership so we don't need uh... the forces in uh... in in stopping these free markets of energy and everything in minerals if we don't lead in that as leaders as leaders of the killers of the world then all problems like the old you know all stuff like their communists at the s the commies are gonna come and get us and uh... and al-qaeda and will have terrorists all over the place that's what I'm hearing a message

1:30:35 and new security challenges for the fine room to grow. For us, Hundertland! The homeland would be very unsafe! The Department of War has spoken! Insane... It's just it's... I'm so ashamed. I am deeply ashamed. I am ashamed Yeah well, the way things are going we're gonna have to cut your salary by one fifth Which is 7% Hold on, i got something for you Are you ironic? Do you have a beard? Are you currently wearing jeans that you stole from your little sister's wardrobe in a v-neck lower than the US economy. If so, talk to your doctor! If you are experiencing some none or all of these symptoms You may be suffering from Hyper involuntary panic stress and tension elevation response disorder Or hipster Hipster affects men and women between the ages of 16 & 35 And is one of the leading causes of scarf wearing blogging buying vinyl and ordering fair trade

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1:33:21 I don't know why, there was something here. I just turned that thing on and something caught my attention that I knew there was a gem in there somewhere and that marine guy... No no this is possibly clip of the year to date I don't know about that. Oh come on, this is a global order! No no it's not even that...I just put into the evergreen bin We've got to bring this one out from time to time when we're out there stopping the crazy roller coaster oil prices you know when were doing that Yeah, of course. How's gas doing by the way? Now that the president spoke about only... It went up again! Well of course, the president talked about gas for like 10 minutes during the State of the Union

1:34:08 Yeah, it went up about 20 cents. How come he didn't... I'm not saying so gas liquid gas liquid natural gas is what i'm talking about? Oh no that stuff is weird that is a perpetual depression It's actually ridiculously cheap Is still under three dollars because it has to be over three dollars for them to make money we know this Let's see Just take a look Because you know I'd have to say was pretty unreal that the president Not once mentioned Nuclear energy in a state of the Union. Yes 315, but it dropped a little bit penny Okay Yeah No, no that I've seen I have seen the gasoline prices go up It was three dollars and eleven cents before We like a month ago. Maybe we bought some gas four dollars and thirty cents. Yeah Well your California And now it's 350

1:35:13 Anyway gold's down 26 bucks Time to buy it's a buying opportunity Anyway, I wanted to so this has been the kind of an interesting show So far. I'm sorry. I have some hipster thing is a hipster toy is going off in the background I'd want to take just a moment here To play this little clip It was sent to us by one of our producers. I think you received it as well This is a great clip from the 50s and maybe yeah, it's got to be late fifties I guess of Rod Serling did you see the clip that was sent to us by our? Yeah, it said was part of a deal one of this old interviews. There's quite interesting Is actually this is the one is just the one about how he'd eat. Yeah, there's a good so actually this is before before he

1:36:10 before the twilight because he was a producer actor writer before the twilight zone which is his most famous for i guess what other things that did rod sterling do he must have him for a heavyweight he won a crap load of awards for his dramas yeah I mean the guy was awesome and it's cool It's funny, Mickey was taking some stuff off the wall while I'm recording this clip and she couldn't see it but she said wow the guy really talks old-fashioned. Yeah there is an interview from 1950s oh wow because you know it is kind of that 1950s vibe and I think he's talking to who was the big CBS guy? Morrow? I don't know who he's talking to yeah if it was in color wasn't Morrow

1:36:55 No, it was black and white. And he's smoking on camera too which is kind of cool. Yeah well he died of smoking. But it's still cool that he's just smoking on camera. I know they used to all do that! He has a smoke on his intro on the 20th anniversary when he came out smoking. Awesome awesome awesome. Can't you put it down for one minute Rod? So this is from the The More Things Change The More They Stay The Same 1950s and one of the reasons why We have our value for value model here on no agenda. Pre-censorship is a practice I think of most television writers, I can't speak for all of them... Actually it's Mike Wallace. ...prior knowledge to the writer of those areas which are difficult to try and get through And so a writer will shy away from writing those things which he knows he is going to have trouble with at the sponsorial or agency level Exactly! We practice that all the time we just do not write those themes Which you know are going to get him into trouble

1:37:50 Who's the culprit is it the network? Responsible which sure is not the FCC. No, it's certainly not the FCC Ideally speaking of course It's a combination of culprits in this case Mike its partly Network Its principally agency and sponsor In many ways I think it's the audience themselves how do you mean well give an example about a year ago roughly 11 or 12 months ago on the Lassie show. This is a story usually told by Sheldon Leonard who was then associated with this show. Lassie was having puppies And I have two little girls, then age five and three who are greatly enamored of this beautiful collie. And they watched the show with great interest and lastly gave birth to puppies. And Mikey it was probably one of the most tasteful and delightful and warm things depicting what is this wondrous thing that is birth

1:38:44 And after the show, I think there were many congratulations all around because it was a lovely show. The sort of thing that I'd love my kids to watch to show them what is the birth process and how marvelous it is! They got many many cards and letters sample card from the deep south this was If I wanted my kids to watch sex shows, I wouldn't have had a turn on that. I could take them to burlesque shows And as a result of the influx of mail, many of the cards incidentally, as Sheldon tells it were postmarked at identical moments all in the same handwriting but each was counted as a singular piece of mail. As a result, the directive went down that there would be no shows having anything to do with puppies that is in the actual birth process Well obviously this wild lunatic fringe of letter writers did greatly affect what the sponsor has in mind

1:39:33 You can understand the position of the sponsor, can't you? In many ways I suppose I can. He's there to push a product... He has a considerable stake does him what goes on in the air! Most assuredly and in those cases where there is a problem of public taste in which there is a concern for eliciting negative response from large mass of people. I can understand why the guys are frightened, I don't understand Mike for example other evidences and instances of intrusion by sponsors For example on Playhouse 99 not a year ago A lovely show called Judgment at Nuremberg I think probably one of the most competently done and artistically done pieces that 90's done all year. In it, as you recall, mention was made of gas chambers and the line was deleted cut off the sound track

1:40:23 And it mattered little to these guys if the gas involved in concentration camps was cyanide, which bore no resemblance physical or otherwise to the gas used in stoves. They cut the line. Because the sponsor wasn't... We did not want that awful association made between what was the horror and misery of Nazi Germany with their nice chrome wonderfully antiseptically clean beautiful kitchen appliances that they were selling Now this is an example of sponsor interference which is so beyond logic and which is so beyond taste This I rebel against. You've got a new series coming up called the Twilight Zone So of course the most important part of that piece is really at the beginning where he talks about the pre-censorship, where these topics just not even broached They just don't even come up Just not even... because it'll never work you can never say that! You can't air that! You can do this! You can't do that and if you do then well look they will have letter writers

1:41:19 Which of course is all bullcrap, but people go after the sponsors. No, and I've talked about this a lot as a writer. And because people always like you know the argument is well you know Microsoft is telling you guys what to write and by the way Microsoft's not the worst actor in this kind of thing and then it was really ironic that people would say always cite Microsoft especially when you write for PC Magazine because Microsoft was one of the lousiest advertisers they never advertise they don't have any push at all But anyway, what they do have is a lot of public relations guys that used to. They don't do this much anymore and I think it's really hurting them but they used to be hound the editor. How can you run that guy stuff? So there is a point where you can come out and honestly say for example as a writer, you can honestly say I've never been told ever what to write

1:42:18 And, but then again you have some stuff that's rejected occasionally and then you can kind of figure out what not to write. But if you always say that and you say with honestly because most the time you're just self-censoring You just say I'm like what's the point am i wasting my time turning this in when it's gonna get kicked back? I'm at the right something else Right which is by the way When the whole download fiasco happened with Apple iOS 6 Um... You even said that to me. Because I said look here's the evidence. Here's what's going on? Here's how the logs work Here's what they've changed a TCP stack They got all kinds of shit going wrong and the inside with their iPhone, and it's costing us money It's costing all kinds of people headaches and money in problems And I think you literally said yeah What's the point of trying to write a column that just gonna knock it away and though and an Apple won't answer and they'll never happen It's just not gonna happen right well This is another secondary effect which I should mention two people who want the insight scoop

1:43:20 Which is you will occasionally have something like that piece, which I wasn't gonna write like you said. It just wasn't going to write and the reason is because it would this kind of thing and you want To put in a high-profile spot but they goes like this This is an interesting thing you've done have you do did you get response from Apple? Yeah And you call out, but you're not going to get any response. So you put... You could say they won't call me back Well give it a try somebody else. Sure you can get somebody to say something They won't say anything In fact if you had contact over there they wouldn't even talk to you and you weren't writing anything Yeah well I was calling them assholes that might have... Eric, well can you prove this? You know what...you got some laws. Was this just happening in West...but you start getting grilled about the details because it's more than just a simple opinion. When you do accusatory writing, you have to have some

1:44:11 time to do it and they don't pay anybody anymore, none of the newspapers do and magazines for sure. They don't pay anybody enough to spend days and days researching something that is a loser of an idea and then it doesn't have any effect because Apple fixes the thing eventually anyway You know, so what did you accomplish? Did you make him go faster? Did you make it? Did you embarrass the company was that the idea just to try to humiliate them I mean It's it's a waste of time and that's the way all the media works The only reason that this show is so good. Is because we have no constraints I mean we can bicker about Hipsterism for 10 minutes and it's too bad And then and then the good news is you can fast forward and you can rewind the tape you can play that clip general

1:44:57 a million times if you want to. But we don't have these kinds of constraints and we just talk, and this occasional cursing and nobody cares... There's some podcasts where it seems that is all they do which I find annoying by the way. What is highly interesting is that our politicians, our leaders are not interested in our type of media. In fact, we are the enemy with the enemy as just a quick clip here from our vice president Joe O'Biden as he speaks to the media about his message for gun control it's now again this is not about this message about gun violence, gun control, gun laws etc but it is what he uh... who he's interested in communicating with

1:45:48 I supported assault weapons ban and the original Biden crime bills were got passed. Well, when I ran for office, I was told a lot of money was spent saying I was taking everybody's shotgun and it was all about your shotgun. Well that's a bunch of malarkey! I know that's the word you've never heard before although it's now in the dictionary but uh... That's just simply not true And to be very blunt with you, we're counting on all of you. The legitimate news media to cover these discussions. Oh the legitimate news media John? Well that's a good catch. Legitimate news media! Once you mention it is so obvious what he just did. First he makes them all laugh right with his little joke I mean the guy is very good at it

1:46:37 He uses his little malarkey clip and they say, oh and by the way it's in the dictionary now because I Joe O'Biden made that word up which he didn't. Malarkey has been used forever but okay so now it is his word like Al Gore invented the internet then and then its like you know yeah but I'm counting on you the legitimate media who I laugh with and hang out with not like social media. Times have changed The social media that exists out there... Yeah, see? Social media exists out there. Have you heard of this social media thing John? It's not legitimate media No it's not legitimate its just something that exists. Yeah its just gossip. Its just not legitimate out there You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna show my support by donating to Knowagender Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab! On Knowagender We are NOT legitimate In our name We are NOT legitimate media

1:47:37 Yeah, there's nothing obvious about that that does segue I was sitting on that for hours of course Because of this idiotic Excel ribbon. I have moved to some page that I'm trying to get out I only use hate this stuff. I only use open office. I don't use any of those Microsoft products Do you used? You don't use Open Office? I do from my writing Well, but I mean...I don't even have it on my machines anymore. Yeah well... No no okay! I've got it on this machine and its just the most annoying thing by the way the woman and I hate to be a sexist about this But? The woman who invented this ribbon interface you can use and they just up mess which studies have shown is with word has created 35%

1:48:32 Decrease in productivity because you're always screwing around trying to find stuff she Turned out to be moved to the top of the ladder. She's ahead of marketing and she's the one that pushed and managed to get the Windows 8 Metro shows us in the metro So this is a person that... Can I just say something? That, um. . .I have not used Windows like in... Man! That's not true Skype here is running on Windows and thats the only thing I use it for. I don't.. I just don't use it You're a Mac user Did you know by the way that Wine runs on the Mac

1:49:10 I just discovered this the other day. Oh my god! There's this one ham radio program that only runs on Windows and i wanted to try it out, you know? This digital processing stuff won't really run on this notebook or whatever...this touchy feeling like 700 megahertz processor or whatever and then I'm ripping my hair out trying to find a port or whatever and then I found out that Wine Runs perfectly on OS X and you can run tons of stuff. I was blown up I didn't know this when did this happen? I don't know I never heard of it I think I'm a hipster if you're running Windows programs in wine on your mind your MacBook Pro That's I think that's kind of the hipster thing. Let's take you got it so well wine has always been, you know, it's been the

1:50:01 One of my biggest complaints is that Linux mm-hmm by the way you always want to talk about tech once in a while yeah, that Linux Which is it perfectly functional? I run multiple Linux boxes by the way. I like it great product Yeah And because it doesn't run Photoshop It's killing it because Adobe refuses to port Photoshop to Linux because Warnock and Geschke, the two founders of the company especially John Warnock has decided that Linux and open source movement is his great enemy because of the invention of GhostScript.

1:50:40 So he refuses, and he's still the chairman of the board. He refuses to port to Linux Meanwhile Wine on Linux I don't think it works that well And so I mean I can go do Linux I'd love too But i cant because I use Photoshop and Illustrator some these other things too much in things like InDesign I just wouldn't trust them running through wine Have you ever tried Photoshop running in wine? No That might be an interesting experiment. I mean, I've never even run Photoshop on anything but a Mac and... I'm not Photoshop at all! But I have to say that um..I really you know, I changed my MacBook Air uh...to Ubuntu. Pfft! I don't know how long like the year ago now maybe? And except for- Your MacBook Air is running Ubuntu?! Yeah oh yeah! Because I want it- That's pretty dirty What's wrong with the Apple OS

1:51:40 I just well because Apple started changing things you know it's like not you get forced into all these all these upgrades and then your force your scroll versus because it is ah are you telling me that because historically now i'm thinking about we've been doing the show of almost 500 episodes. We did a lot of shows yeah and Don't know maybe 50 episodes. Maybe longer you stopped the same gripe that you always said this is this must be it because you used to come on and go and You'd be usually not streaming, you'd be cussing like a like a truck driver who dropped a you know wrench on his foot Yeah about Apple doing an overnight upgrade now your system can't work You gotta do this and redo that you got

1:52:24 You're always you were complaining bitterly about this about once every two months. Yeah, well so but now you get for Specifically what what is happening now when they moved to? Your apps have to be in the App Store for your for your Mac So, you know already the whole app thing for For your iPhone that got me off the iPhone and I was like oh please yeah, I just want a little bit of Maybe it's just pseudo control, whatever. But the forced upgrades I see Nikki going through it on not a daily basis but she is completely... She wants to be in the ecosystem and I support her and she said look I want everything to sync and whatever that cloud thing and iCloud just make it all work and you know she relies heavily on the Apple Photoshop Lightroom products all of this stuff

1:53:19 She has little understanding as a user of, you know, disks drives and directories. And she's a quintessential perfect Apple user but then I go through these phases where she is forced to upgrade because A won't work with B unless you have this, there's all these dependencies. And then the scroll bars are upside down, the scroll bars are gone? You can't grab a scroll bar anymore on a Mac? Who made that decision? So and that's okay! The only reason I still use Macs in the studio is core audio is superior

1:53:59 That is a fabulous part of the Macintosh operating system and Linux is very weak in... The development is just still not there with the audio systems as well as with actually wireless networking, it's very weak. on a lot of the Linux installs. The driver support is not there, you know so that is the downside of my MacBook Air which I have one of the first versions of the MacBook Air 3.1 and it's very hard to install Linux first of all dual boot you have to do with E-fit and all this crap but then the drivers for the Wi-Fi suck! It just really really sucks but even then at least

1:54:46 You know, I can control what's going on. Things won't change overnight. I can make my own decisions and I can work with software vendors who make free stuff and good stuff that I want and it doesn't have to go through some kind of committee And i've seen this writing on the wall for a long long time But I think you should try Photoshop and Wine Give it a try Yeah, give it a try It might work! I have a Linux box that keeps tempting me It's a faster operating system and it doesn't, it has kind of stable in the original style of the desktop metaphor. I just don't like this new stuff. You know so I've been messing around with Lenaro

1:55:32 Are you familiar with this install? Never heard of it. Yeah, so it works on ARM devices because that's really what I'm working on with my QRPSDR project is...I got the Odroid computer and so basically you burn Lenaro... It's not even...what is it? Sorry? L-i-n-a-r-o. L-i-n-a-r-o. And so you burn the whole OS onto the SD card, and it boots right from the SD card. It's pretty amazing! I mean it's like a Raspberry Pi only more powerful as a faster processor. You know... and again, the Wi-Fi support blows. Now you got to find drivers that's a problem but these little installs man

1:56:23 In school, kids should be taught they need to learn how to compile a kernel. This should be mandatory. Install Linux, you should be able to learn how to compile the kernel change some headers recompile that should be mandatory for all kids in kindergarten The top thing going on in schools right now is moving kids to Chromebooks Let's move on quit your depressing me now I was happy about this conversation how you're depressing It's a fact. Yeah, hey! That's for Rebecca McGinley from San Diego California who gave us 9999 Howdy A&J I'm sorry the Valentine's Day show was so wimpy So here is my value for value Can i get a trains good planes bad shut up already it's science slide whistle jam session Oh well then let's do that All aboard trains good planes bad Stop already

1:57:24 Science! That's it? What happened to shut up already, science. Oh no you were slide whistling over it It was there Yeah It was there Its on the tape You guys are the best keep hitting them in the mouth In the mouth William Durkin in Greenville South Carolina beautiful state always wanted to be a kingdom Another prime number donation 487 is the 93rd prime so here's $93 Just give me some karma. That's interesting what the 500th prime is? What is the value of a prime number, Is it good for anything other than just saying its a prime number I mean is there some usefulness of prime numbers If you multiply by two you can divide into the result Yeah that's very hot It's just a number that you can't

1:58:19 You can't divide by anything. I don't know, mathematicians can tell us why it's important and they keep... It's like a big deal to find all of them Okay Yes it is Are there some still out there that we haven't found yet? Yeah! That's what they say Every once in awhile somebody... It's like big news breaking news when someone finds one And now its got this way up there's like hundreds of thousands of those Apparently it's good for encryption Yeah, you need actually you can't do encryption without it because Don't ask me. I'm not a I don't know there's a reason

1:58:56 And it's good for your hipster quotient. Yeah, look it up! Look it up? I'm asking you... I could just do the show and ask questions and look it up My answer is always going to be the same Not have you on the show! Get a voice, get that clip, ready? Start recording, look it up Perfect, perfect Thank you, I am set, I am good to go Elise Garling Jewelry in Sunnyside New York So we need... what's the 500th I don't know. We got to come up with something for you know my for the 500 show a good number I love I love chat room Oh Adam basic math, don't you even understand? Basic math yes what I learned in sixth grade yeah at least I forgot it that's the problem darling jewelry and Sunnyside New York 8888

1:59:50 A career karma for myself would be greatly appreciated and a chemtrail jingle for my wonderful thmerosol and GMO avoiding, chemtrail spotting crackpot loved ones. Chemtrails spotting crackpot love... You know who you are! P.S., whatever happened to the N.A homebrew competition? Thanks for the best podcast in the universe Yeah, whatever happened. And you know I haven't heard from our Noah Jindal moonshiner and from our bootlegger. I haven't heard from him again. The problem with the homebrew competition is too difficult to... two things one we don't apparently have anyone except a couple of professionals who can't ship the beer or they get busted

2:00:32 We don't have anybody except for them that can make any beer that's as good. One batch came in that was pretty good, done by a female who I can't remember her name and it was decent. It was actually drinkable. The other stuff including some recent material it actually had to be thrown out. It had to be skunked as we say in the beer business It was just not good. Skunked. Oh, sorry! He meant... There we go. You've got karma. Sorry, Monsanto sneaking in as they always do William Durkin and Gr- oh that's... What did I just do? Did I read William Durkins instead of Rebecca McKinley? No no no, we did all that. And that was at least garling jewelry

2:01:29 Right. Jay Kincaid in Roswell, Georgia would like to request a super love karma 77 on the 7th for Jim on MCOG from Jazz Zone BTW Adam by the way Adam a couple of shows ago when you first brought up peeing in the shower I was listening this show in the shower as they often do and actually peeing at that exact moment Thank You that made my day Did you have to blow your nose too? No. You should be peeing and blowing your nose. It's like guys, if you watch a football game and some guy says to blow his nose... I know! You should do that in the shower while you're peeing And didn't some producer of ours send in the idea that we shouldn't use the toilet at all really for pooping Like we should get cat litter

2:02:26 and just clump it for humanity? He said no, the whole idea is we need to clump it and then throw it out. And now you've wasted valuable water with flushing Maybe that was maybe that's what that whole cruise ship thing was about. He wants some karma, some 77 karma. You've got Karma Super love! Super Love Karma Jason Anderson at Riverside 77 ITM I'm disappointed by the request to keep the show clean and proper listening to John go off on an obscenity laced rant is one of the best parts of this show

2:03:08 So I figure, I could either nap for humanity or donate for profanity. Here's 77 for more cursing swearing expletives and malediction. Fuck yeah! I'd like to get a mention for my business on the website BallisticGuitars.com Guitar tech and repair services in Riverside, California. I just redesigned the website and i'm looking for some karma to bring in more business in 2013 so I can get a constitution whoop em LGY Karma thanks guys keep up the awesome work Wow haven't we have this we have the short one right? We have uh whoop um LG car karma okay

2:03:55 You've got karma There we go John Vale in Pinsburg, Pennsylvania Please give my sister Christine core man Cormann ik a straight-up karma and wish her a happy birthday today thank you for the best podcast in the universe. You've got karma! Alright we like those when it's little short by the way this is, the segments are long because yeah you know these notes are... here's the deal we were gonna move up that will talk about your comment at 6969 and then one of the guys came in oh you're pushing our

2:04:32 the minimum inside his head this double nickels and i know what to men into a fifty five dollars or fifty-fifty fifty years something that does it doesn't go on about fifteen fifteen fifty five ten okay so is doubling goes on the dime as of now you know we give fifty five every month in your country And so it was a kind of complaint that I had to kind of say yeah, probably. It's probably true We will try to avoid this move but we're not gonna be able to if people write these these long-winded You know messages that are just I mean? I don't mind like a certain length But like this but the last one was perfect and the next one is gonna be good too, but you know if people could just think about

2:05:13 Maybe shorten their pitch a little bit. That was that really are you trying to say something? Are you trying are you trying to say something what can you do it better yeah people keep your notes a little shorter, please Well there's that yeah So Colin Peterson comes in from Bo Washington or bow I don't know Valentine's Day sucked. Why? Because it has been too long since I had a karma shot here is hoping for better luck in the future can i get a parliament mumble shut up its science karma yeah we can do that for you uh... just wasn't ready shut up already! Science, you've got Karma Alicia May in Ann Arbor Michigan 6969

2:06:07 During the Thursday show I was walking my dog and found $68 on the sidewalk. I instantly knew i would throw in one dollar and 69 cents to keep the swazzle nuts alive sending good luck your way a big thank you for what you do because no one in the universe assassinates the media better than you guys LGY karma and thank you You've got Karma TinyEmpire.com from Phoenix Producer Miles in Arizona would like to let entrepreneurs and Scottsdale know about Assemble AZ Makers in Mesa have heat sink labs hackers and Phoenix have Phoenix 2600 Tempe has tech PHX in November, and everyone else there's reddit phoenix

2:06:59 Huh tiny what is it Alicia May hmm no idea tiny Empire calm the hell was that? Has probably to do with this guy has him into a 3d printer. I like me I like the maker culture It's kind of cool Jason Steve and sir Jason to you in lost wages, Nevada 6969 first I wanted to say that I'm excited at Adams work on the Cartulari River thingy. Yeah, well this is a Dave Jones and I've been working on this for like over a year now This is the we talked about the other day the Short video I can tell it's going to be awesome yeah I posted he talking about hosted a YouTube video of the social network thing We've been working on for over a year Oh, this is that one that's distributed or something they could take over the world? Yeah That's the one exactly you got it

2:07:49 It will make us no money, but it's going to be very cool because it will kill Facebook. Yeah I've heard that before. Next I want to apologize for the lack of notes from my 11111 donations why? Because its a recurring monthly subscription as I believe the best podcast in the world and universe should get! Can I get John to give me an Only Amiga Makes It Possible followed by Dr Kiki Shut Up Already at Science. Okay ready? Hold on... Only Amiga makes it possible. Shut up already! It's science! Wow, have you ever said that in the past? Is this something... No no never

2:08:28 I'm no idea what he's doing with that Michael Armstrong in Central City, Iowa 6969 Monsanto chemtrails LG white car by the way we'll do a four yeah if the note is this Yeah exactly Karma vomit Carl should put or Shepit in Stony Creek, Ontario. Dvorak thanks for busting Curry's balls for always being tough on the other media sources even if they are douchebags I need a de-douching as i've been listening for six months karma from my fiancee's brother father Bob who is fighting cancer PS curry reaction to the mention pastafarianism on show 487 made me believe he has never heard of it

2:09:22 Check it out. I've never heard of it. This is the kind of guy who'll send me a note, I'm surprised you didn't know about this! I was amazed you didn't know about this! You don't know everything? You're on the best podcast in Paris! It's actually a farce religion used to rather effectively push out religiously motivated laws from our system. Read Douchebag Me for guessing wrong What?! But give him a douchebag, I don't know what to do with it. He wants to de-douche and then re-deuce so we can get that... You've been de-dooched! Alright, aaand here we go! DOOCHEBAG! It's back to scratch There you go Come back again next week We'll make more Is that the flying spaghetti monster? Isn't that the religion of... Hey come on man let's move along See these notes are too long Rolls... Sir Roll SK in Saskatoon The Paris Of Somewhere

2:10:17 Canada. Sir Roll SK here from the Noble Liars I wanted to say it's the best four shows have been at last for shows have been amazing this certainly is the best podcast in the universe please send some karma to my band and noble liars for now we have a product with no market if you listen to the pre-show i'm sure you've heard some of that already and some Send me some swazzle enough karma for my current relationships, which has so far been amazing Apparently with no swazzle enough my previous was enough donations continue to pay off in all the right ways So I guess it does work Adam. Please enjoy the album and let me know what you think John stay frosty you gump grump okay? he wants a Atlas shrugged yeah, okay little girl yay and oh

2:11:01 The second part of the Adam Shrugged movie is amazing? Right. I think that Atlas Shrugged Part 2 was out, I saw Part 1 so might as well go see Part 2 or wait for the DVD to come out here we go. Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. Tight tight tight Eric Anderson and Bethel Bothell Bothell Washington 6969 send me some one half one hot milf little girl yay karma for my birthday on Saturday Which we have listed hoping my smoking hot wife will have a special birthday present for me wink-wink That's one hot milk, baby You've got karma Keith McColpin in Imperial Pennsylvania lot of Pennsylvanians in today. Yeah

2:11:53 18 months ago I made my second donation, decided what I thought was a funny comment about my vegan drone girlfriend. Turns out i'm not a comedian! Many lonely nights later... ...I learned the error of my ways and would like to make amends Even though I asked for job seeking karma for Amy back then and she soon found one... Uh-huh? ...i would like to make up for my poor taste in humor by having Adam say the following And Adam... Alright, I get to do my voice here Amy, Keith wants you to know he adores you and YOU are the love of his life. Please give both us a shot of karma and a fiscal cliff scream just because I like it! Hey baby how about some upside down lovin' now? You've got karma. Yeah that'll work

2:12:49 Yeah, yeah. Very romantic. A winner! A winner! Scott Williams for Lauderdale Florida ITM Biffin Cleetus my girlfriend Tally who recently converted to a no agenda-ism did not want me to give her flowers or chocolates this fake Valentine's holiday but instead donated to the best podcast in the universe she would like a don't eat me Hillary Clinton drone again you've got karma combo You've got karma It's a nice combo actually and that ends our crazy segment. Oh, hey Yeah, yeah Linux

2:13:46 I can't wait, can't wait to move to the Linux. Kevin Benson, Budinus New South Wales from Gitmo down under you hi guys ever my ever slow donation plan it was become the Wizard of Oz as every roundtable and drunken bunch of nights needs a wizard this is 6666 would which is the magic number 3333 for each of you two. Thanks for the news breakdown and reminding me how good it is not to live in the USA, and please yes... we'll have drones over YouTube don't worry about it! And please give me what I think is the ultimate combination three clips little girl yay, little girl yay, little girl yay. And that's it with the karma or just those three clip?

2:14:29 I guess that's just it for the three clicks. Hey, you can't trick me! Do that with your Linux box. Dano or Dario...I'm sorry Gonzales...Gonzalves...Gonskanz? I don't know this name is always- Dario Concalvis. GonCalvis. I think it is ConCalvis. Anyway 6660 First time donor been a listening to show and I love it the best podcast in the universe. He says post cast Please douche my mate Andrew capel Hmm hey, this is nice Douche who introduced me to the show and never donated okay pol Tony from daily skew comment for Lauderdale

2:15:15 Holy crap! Well, she had yeah we and we bicker. Yeah crazy stuff right well rather than ask for karma I thought it by the way by the way doing that ultimate hipster thing to do and let's be honest Super hipster to have seven liters of your own blood spun through a centrifuge To extract white blood cells to be reinserted into his body to help boost his son's immune system What a hipster

2:16:00 Well, rather than ask for karma I thought I'd give two things to the best podcast. First the live listeners can download today our new Kindle e-book E-anagram pop for free That's E-N-N-E-A G-R-A-M, pop. Just go to the dailyskew dot com and click the big blue button to get it Second I'm emailing Arnie and Jericho a new jingle for 6611 Hope this inspires more inflation adjusted donations Alright so i am going personally reach into the no agenda karma bag And hand out some karma to you and your kid, because that's pretty awesome. And it's dailyskew.com D-A-I-L S-K-E-W Here is the jingle he sent along I already played earlier today It's lightning rod and grounding braid! You've got karma Has a long thunder at the end Erz gosi

2:16:58 I think in Kokomo, Indiana. Gentlemen greetings from Switzer Nuts. Oh he's in Switzerland Thank you... oh that's a Swiss name thank you for providing us with the countless hours of media assassination and the best podcast in the universe! I have to call myself out as a douchebag for not donating earlier Give him a douchebag. Douchebag. Okay, if you want it. Having finally guilted myself enough I emptied out my PayPal account by the way everyone should do that sorry for being part of the freeloading majority for too long please send a random karma combo my way turn off your television! You will obey

2:17:42 You've got karma. Random. Pretty random Brad Badao Bebo Bebebo Bebo Bebo Brad Bebo in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Please read it Oh, please read in stoner voice Otis Bink foot of the stri- I don't know if I can get into it It's funny Hey man Otis Bink foot of the stinkin lake Wisconsin Dear John and Adam Here's a little bit of value for me, for the large amounts of value I get from you two. I've been listening religiously and kindly thank my friend Governor Jerry Browne for hitting me in the mouth! I'm hoping my donation gets me a golden key to The Crapper as I will not shit in a bag. Please tell the chat room to fuck off and hit me with a sexy science parliament mumble and karma all around for everyone in need keep up the great work gentlemen. I'm concerned

2:18:38 I'm really concerned because you seem to have lost your stoner voice. So he had to have been stoned. We have had people that were drunk, gave the drunk donations and I can sound like them and we've had people that were...I know they were stoned because of the way they wrote but if you're straight or drunk and want a stoner voice then your not going to get it. No! I channel the voice You see? Yes! Mike Caddy, Stalwell's... Your method actor. Your method actor. Stalwell Victoria Here is a small donation to help ease Adams butt

2:19:27 But, Adam's butt hurt. Okay? Oh I see! After the vile evil and nefarious Kevin Smith used Adams surname as an initiator for a series of mostly unfunny jokes A shot at karma for Adam would ensure that nobody gives him grief about his name going into the future It is unconscionable to make jokes of dubious humor value based on somebody's name Fact And it is refreshing to see Noah Jenner never pooping or stooping to these crass and base attacks while reporting and dissecting news involving people like Steve Cook, Janet Napolitano Hillary Clippity-Clop Clinton, Piers Moron Joe O'Biden and others. All the best Mike Cadick Stowell pronounced stall in Victoria. Alright so can I just say one thing that was not the issue The issue was no plug

2:20:21 Yeah. There was no plug, there was no mention of our show we wanted a plug on the show that's what shows are you plug? No! You can make all the fun of his name you want to if he plugged in your website Exactly! Could have said curry dot com is part of that bit I would have taken that yeah No, apparently yours is just some guy who invented something. You're not even alive. No not me Okay that was terrible. That guy's hard to listen too. Okay come on come on come on! Kevin Ayers in Broomfield Colorado 50 double nickels on the diamond he sent this note in Now listen to this note carefully considering what he gave Duh it's my birthday on Tuesday the 19th which means you have to put him on the list

2:21:11 I donated 6666 and forgot. Geez, I need a mind control and good slapping around! I promise to pretend not to like it." So he not only forgot to put the note in but doesn't remember how much he donated. Okay... Well he's on the list. Let's see... Here is an example of what I'll note that is too long. Jordan Rivas in Converse Texas You can go down the street and you can lecture him 5510 first-time donor now recovering boner I've been listening on and off for about a year however no agenda is getting ready to bump twit off my number two spot in the podcast rotation was number one so i figured it was time to show my support na and twit will both always be second to smodcast oh

2:22:03 You know, we can just sit here and say fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. No man! Man! Hey man! And by the way I was going back because I was pulling some clips and I ended up with a bunch of yeah... Fuck man! Hey man! It's Kevin Smith talking and talking and talking and his partner going Yeah! Well listen now i'm gonna do it Here is that Kevin Smith? Is that who he is? I don't think he has like a that Kevin. I saw red state by the way, sucked He encourages you Adam to reach out to Kevin who is generally one of the nicest filmmakers out there and One of the few has actually called out the Hollywood BS Taking his film

2:22:54 Hollywood BS. Hello, Hollywood BS! Wow... wow that's really important. He just wanted to fuse actually called it out apparently Hey man don't get mad get Irish. He's taking his film out without studios and someone who appreciates trailblazers like Adam No he doesn't no he doesn't if he did then he would have plugged me He doesn't. I would love nothing more than to see a mashup of my two favorite podcasts and have Adam go one-on-one with Kev's shows, Kev. Kev? Kev! And it's like... you suck. That said, I'd like a deesh douching and a 999 by itself followed by a combo DrKikis at Science and Atlas Shrugged No. You know what no, NO, NONE OF THAT Nothing. No jingle for you. No! I'm sorry the hammer comes down here

2:23:44 Okay, I'm not gonna argue the point. I mean let me just read from that Kevin Smith's Twitter tweets Sitting down now with at Smosier for some smodcasts what shall we talk about today man? Los Angeles see the trailer and in the tweet now Los Angeles See the trailer for Jay and Silent Bob super groovy cartoon movie Wednesday night at The Laugh Factory. I love you Long Beach! I'll be back for more babble at The Laugh Factory next month Guys, he's not giving you any news. You see? He is promoting himself Yeah That's all he does is promote himself and it's okay if you promote someone else once in a while Does that hurt? No! Sure wish one of these days demon possession movies would end with the possessed getting stabbed by an icicle made out of frozen holy water Wow! That's the best tweet ever

2:24:44 Thanks to what's trending for having me on the show love meeting Lisa Kudrow and at Bernie and nerding out over making stuff It's hashtag future of TV. Oh hipster Hans Petter Feld I think in Oslo Fjeld maybe it's gelled greeting some get more brown cheese found a deli in the US that ships this stuff once um yeah I sent, yeah in second place is two orders. Hmm. Uh...I sent you a mail give me address and i will get it to you thank you for the great entertainment giga? I don't know what he's saying here jingles WTC7 won't go away oh he wants that okay yeah well he's not a native speaker WTC 7 won't go away Stop already Science Karma

2:25:42 What happened? Sorry, sorry the karma didn't come out karma. I want to make sure nine STA 73's Sheena Hershey in Baltimore Maryland My name is Sheena. I donated 50 to the no agenda donation Was my first time donating I want to see must be a little girl and must wanted to send the message which might donation however? I hit the sand before it could write my message. I was wondering if you could give karma to my boyfriend Nate The best boyfriend in the world he's taking your class right now, and I want to send him karma to pass this course My boyfriend met you Adam yes, I know yes, I know sir GQ. I know sir GQ really It's a Karma interesting huh why oh

2:26:29 I'll tell you later about that. Interesting, by the way he could be in GQ is a handsome man sir GQ is so yeah handsome man good-looking lady you've got karma and it was so sweet because she sent a note she's like oh I forgot to put a note into PayPal and oh man I think could you please do this and then she down we've got it we get under control so send pictures of Fretter Jack Schroeder in Windsor, Ontario $50 without comment. Thank you jack Brian Watson sir Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina need Fisker karma because it's on fire Because the cars in my driveway burning boycott movie slash music except Taylor Swift

2:27:13 Really? Everyone should listen to No Agenda State Department briefings, my favorite. White House briefing and C-SPAN love the show. Here's your Fisker Karma. Here we go! You've got karma. Which by the way I thought was pretty interesting this whole so called war between Elon Musk of Tesla and the writer of The New York Times about the range of the car...I was actually reading this whole thing like wow this is this should be John's gig Some other douchebag walked off with your whole thing. I wrote about it, but actually had some facts Yeah But the M is great PR for the writer whose name? I can't remember and for tests all great What yeah work so we're like a champ. Yeah well there you go Zane Bland if that is indeed his real name in Milford Ohio 50 without comment Thank You Zane

2:28:03 Stephen Atkins in Wainwright, Alberta. Sorry for not donating for so long hope this gets me a little karma keep up the awesome work guys Yeah We give you some karma so you can have a little Karma of course You've got Karma and Chris sir quick Chris Chris Chris Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta where all the money is and he's right there with Steven and Philip Meason in Welshpool POWs $50 and that concludes our listing of those fine donors who helped us produce show 488. And we do have another show coming up, 489 and we're getting within 11 after that or the 500 show and we need to come up with something to help people

2:28:46 celebrate our 500th show which is a big deal. Yes, five hundred thousand dollars would be a great way to celebrate that's right now that everyone has turned off because you know we're anti Kevin Smith We're not anti Kevin Smith. I actually like this Jay and Silent Bob movies, I like those. I thought those were pretty good You just think that he could have said something other than mock Curry's name with a bunch of lame rhymes Yeah Well the other guy who only seems to say yeah Yeah uh-huh Uh huh? Alright so you heard what Rod Serling says He says donate dammit To vorac dot org slash N A Do that on Thursday

2:29:34 It's your birthday, birthday. On No Agenda! John Vale congratulates his sister Christine Karmanek with her birthday Eric Anderson turned... let's see he celebrated yesterday on the 16th Kevin Benson will be celebrating on Tuesday and Kevin Ayers who forgot why he donated what he donated but he knows it's his birthdays at least once a year Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The No Agenda Show It's your birthday yeah And we have a black knight today. Explain what a black knight is, John, because people are always thinking they're black knights? Yeah I don't know why people want to be... but Black Knight is an honor title that we bestow as an apology for missing the fact that they become knights

2:30:24 And so all of a sudden they should have been a night, let's say in the first of the year and then a month goes by. They listen to that show waiting to be a night. You're doing a horrible job So this is not like we don't keep track of your donations you have to do that yourself And then you send to us the list and we check that to make sure obviously. When we've gone through that process, if we then forget to knight you, then you can become a black knight It's not like you sit around waiting and then you're like, hey! Hey how come? Where is my knighthood?! No it's not how it works Okay so this is when we have said hey congratulations your a knight and its all good and then we forget to do on show That's how you become a black knight

2:31:06 Right and I should mention the people out there who still you want your switch transitioning to pins. We are still sending out rings Yeah, we're not very good at the emails about that they're coming but we are yeah, yes Yeah right our cost our customer support department is uh? Yeah once Eric quit then if he lost customer support so it's just kind of a hit-and-miss thing some mean you'll send them out every once every few months and The only thing we don't have is the size nine and a half. That's it, that's my message. By the way there are plenty of hot women who want to be our secretary and take over this stuff Yeah that would uh... that would be problematic Why? Why is that problematic? Sorry I'm with the hot secretary Mimi, I'll call you back Do you remember Mac Warehouse

2:32:05 Mac warehouse yeah the order catalog the mail-order catalog that made Dennis Felix Dennis a multi billionaire. Yeah, so do you remember Carrie? The little girl in the corner? Yeah hi I'm Carrie from mac warehouse yeah that's what we need her I don't care. I want her to sending out our rings and pins This is-I want Carrie from Mac warehouse Yeah, with the little-yeah exactly! The Madonna headphone? Exactly Hi, i'm Carrie from Mac Warehouse How can I help you? She was awesome Alright anyway

2:32:45 If you can grab your blade please, that would be highly appreciated. There we go. Patrick Maycomb step forward my friend! You are about to be one of those illustrious black knights because well simply we forgot ya but didn't do it on purpose so please kneel as I hereby pronounce thee Sir Patrick Maycomb Black Knight of the Noah's in a Round Table for you my friend. I have a whole bevy of goodies, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay hot pants and booze wenches and beer rupin ass woman and rose gushes and sake vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and of course the mutton and mead come sit at the round table

2:33:23 Welcome and that of course is due to a contribution of $1,000 or more. This is the best podcast in the universe We are kept alive by your support your donations keep it coming people read your documentation because that's what we do for you so this When we already talked about oh the meteor yeah, I'm talking about the meteor no I've mixed up the show at the second half first and But I do have some cyber warrior stuff that I thought was interesting. You know, Stek? Our lawyer there and I think he's near Chicago. He emails a lot. Yeah, the lawyer. And I'm gonna get him on the cartilagry system by the way. What is it? The cartillary system Look at my tweets and look at this video Does he need a transplant? Yes exactly That's why we call it Cartillary

2:34:23 And remember the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity Officer who will be determining what can be shared and protecting your rights, Mary Ellen Callahan? Oh God. So she works part time for a law firm, she's only half that she works part time for Jenner and Block which is a huge huge law firm. Yeah so one of the big boys yeah so she works there and she works at it says it's you know to the part-time job obviously protecting your privacy is obviously a part time job I mean that makes no much sense to me So he sent me an email said I actually emailed. He says Adam, I emailed you a few months ago about Mary Ellen Callahan. I was at a conference in Chicago and she was a speaker She's a very nice person but a complete and utter idiot apparently she's working both for DHS and her partnership at Megalaw firm General & Block as An example of her expertise in cybersecurity at the conference as an example She talked about a big DHS project she worked on

2:35:25 Where some federal doofus lost his USB drive with hundreds of millions of slaves' personal information on it, it was unencrypted. Never found! She said that she works a lot with training people how not to lose their USB drives." This is the person in charge of your privacy with a new executive order from the president. So she didn't teach them how to use TrueCrypt or any of these encryption systems, no, no, no... ...or buying a secure USB which is pre-encrypted or anything like that? Nah! Just keep them from losing it and you're, y'know... Well she's only part time John I mean my god man what do you expect if she really wanted to teach people something would have to be full time

2:36:08 Full-time I picked in the first place actually. I saw her resume. It's our bio on the wiki. Yeah, yeah She actually looks for she sounds like she's been trained properly hmm You mean as a shill or something? But I mean she doesn't sound like some slouch like that then did that you know those two guys that were there CTO and whatever they are Kundra and Chopra and Chopra Kundra yeah that guy yeah, yeah So I have an old clip I was gonna do some other stuff, but okay. Oh, I just wanted to do one thing before you get to a clip You know we talked about the cultural jihad and my handler yeah About you know talk to her sense no In email only a quick email Would she straighten you out? Well now she said you know She actually thanked should please thank John for recognizing her work

2:37:07 What did I do? You said, hey you know she straightens you out. She sets you straight from time to time and so of course this was about the high likelihood that John O Brennan converted to Islam and that she basically laid down the whole smack about Sharia law The Muslim Brotherhood is giving all these goodies to the industrial complexes so they can go and make hundreds of billions and trillions. And, of course, all we get is cultural jihad." So first of all after I do this whole thing Glenn Beck starts talking about this. This makes me feel not-so good because Glenn Beck just is icky but it was very funny to read that in Canada

2:37:58 Prime Minister Stephen Harper has unveiled the long-awaited, are you ready for it? Office of Religious Freedom. How 1984 New World Order does that sound? Prime Minister Stephen Harper will unveil the government's long awaited office of religious freedom and name Canada's first religious freedom ambassador at a Toronto area Ahmadiyya Muslim Community Center So religious freedom for Muslims apparently. This is nuts people Why would it be a Muslim that isn't in charge of this? People up in Canada get Harper out I don't think having an office of religious freedom is a good idea It just doesn't sound right to me. I wish I had the clip at the ready about never mind It's annoying now, and I should know we never played

2:39:00 So you had something you wanted to play. The thing that's going around now, that came out this morning is Jeff Jarvis on the BBC did you see that? Oh no what! He was yelling at the guy from the BBC About what?! About the Facebook hack What? What about it? and uh... it what i mean this happens is what happens with big centralized systems you know when he was on the times of what yet when he gets messed up so other bbc of course is like no this is the oldest is bad this is a bit such as jarvis does something very interesting um... well i want your response to it after we play the clip any details

2:39:56 You've already said it, a few of the staffers laptops were hacked through a malware site and there's nothing that was compromised from any sites. No! I disagree with you this is irresponsible journalism this is crap You're trying to do a techno-panic and say that people should be scared around the world, and they shouldn't be. And there's no story here! This interview shouldn't exist... I said that to your brain over you, I'll say it to you. Your just causing a panic, and there is NO reason for it. Answer me THAT please. Okay listen, I totally appreciate your point but we still think that its a point worth discussing.

2:40:37 I don't think so. I think the media coming along and saying, oh my god technology is scary! How often do i have calls from BBC saying let's do a story about how wonderful technology is? All the new opportunities it creates... No! This is what you do You come in here and say aha! A hacking story Technology is bad Technopanic Danger danger BS is crap and you know it. It's irresponsible journalism, and I'm calling on it! Okay Jeff Jarvis listen we do appreciate your time... Hey now can you cut me out first? You don't want to hear this do ya? No no no listen... Okay, good night. No absolutely not the reason why we're stopping the interview... No you know what you don't wanna hear it. We are more than happy to hear Mr Jarvis its just the nature of your language okay we do appreciate the analysis. I could do far worse than that!

2:41:30 Listen, thank you very much indeed for your time. Mr.. Thomas Okay, so the policies for the language they in that interview with John I use the word crap So okay, I have some but I didn't know this yeah This is going this is making the rounds today Do they have a studio that's shaped like a giant bucket? I'm sorry to say the only video I could find was what someone had taped this up with a camera on the TV So yes suck sorry Secondly, I'm pretty sure that I can predict with some certainty that Jeff Jarvis will never be invited back. Yeah, I am pretty sure about that too but this is kind of interesting to me that he chose this and by the way when I hear this I think wow if either one of us dies Jeff could slip right in! He could be on the show

2:42:23 And I'm not a big fan, typically of his. But this was...I kind of like what he was doing because it was more about the media's- Well he doesn't do deconstruction so actually wouldn't work on the show He is just grumpy Oh! He is just having a bad day? Is that what you're saying? I think that has to be it because most of time he is very civil But he was off the deep end, he was like rocking it. I mean did you have to get up at 3 in the morning because it was across the world? There was something else going on that made him this... agitated. Well I was wondering... I know what he would normally do on these sorts of things, well it's not a you know you say the same thing but you'd do it this way yeah you know it turns out not to be a big deal and this pretty much happens at all the companies just what you said a little earlier just exactly the same thing it's not a big deal and it's you might be making so I think too many people are making a mountain out of a molehill and then you stop them let the guy come back with it

2:43:18 And it becomes a very classic time-wasting BBC quasi conversation. This is the same thing you see on CNBC when you're in one of the boxes or the Octobox, there's a bunch of people heads on the screen and they really say nothing One guy tries to get some attention by saying something kind of interesting but it's all bullcrap and I don't know what happened he went off the rails I actually feel that he kind of in a way also might have been protecting Facebook. No! Yeah, because at the beginning of the clip He's kind of like you know everyone knows on Facebook You're sharing everything it's gonna be seen yeah, he was he wasn't no no I'm not so sure

2:44:03 Well, that's pretty sinister if true. Well I am a sinister dude but i like the whole rant and I'd like to I'd like to I Like the hole you know like You're gonna cut me off now And yeah, I thought it was good that was good But it is it was atypical Jarvis? I just didn't seem like that That was something he would do normally no That's what I'm saying It was uh it would normally be just a kite that's why I think something else was going on but I don't think he was If he was protecting Facebook, he did a crappy job of it. We get this all the time by the way we get at least I get emails from people who are incensed and so angry at me and you know its outrageous And sometimes I'll send back home man really what? After two or three emails back-and-forth that turns out my dog got hit by car My girlfriend left me I'm broke You know It's just like people projecting their own crap

2:44:58 Yeah, so that's what I'm that's my thinking on this. Yeah, I wonder oh hope he's okay Maybe his dog got hit maybe his girlfriend left him Hey can I just I'd like to wrap up the the Chris Dorner stuff We have one daughter clip What do you have no you have a good let's play what is it? I got a very short clip, it says donor. I don't know why you can't spell on these things. It's amazing that i can find your clips yeah. Well now when it says let me read this one again defense strategy... This is all spelled right

2:45:39 This was the wrap up and one of the big major news networks that summed it all up, and we were good to go. We're done with this story Now police stress they did not burn down that cabin intentionally They also say after the flames started a single gunshot was heard inside And that sounded very different from all the other shots that were fired and they believe that was the bullet that Dorner saved for himself It's lightning rod and grounding break He saved it for himself. I'm saving this bullet. I'm telling you Yeah, it's really it's really unbelievable so here's a

2:46:18 I actually, whenever i want the truth, turn to Erin Burnett. Yeah and it's a question that they believe that they've answered at this point what the detectives are saying is that have completed the autopsy and at this point they are saying that Dorner died of single gunshot wound to their head something that there not 100% sure I love that part. The autopsy is done and we're sure kind of... But all signs are pointing to door... All signs, John! All signs are pointing to... Can i ask you a question? Yeah yeah yeah So since obviously if you were more into this story or did a better job at finding stuff than I did because you got the wallet, the double wallets part of it which was good

2:47:03 So, since you know all these details you're like probably the I would say you are the national expert on this case. I'm close. Do you was there since he shot himself in the head and then he dropped dead there would be and I assume his right-handed but left hand what difference to make? The gun that he shot himself with would be right there and maybe you know heated up and blew up but the gun would be around right there probably in his hand and all the rest that you'd find a gun he's trying to did they find a gun oh I'm so glad you asked John not only did they find a gun they found the entire arsenal there showing it on television which includes a Bushmaster AR-15 but they're not scorched at all as we heard all those reports about Christopher Dorner being heavily armed that he's armed and dangerous

2:47:55 But looking at it, it really sort of underscores that this man was prepared for war. He was engaged in an all-out war look at this weapon This is a sniper semi automatic rifle not a burn mark on it by the way with a scope So the scope is perfectly intact. Well high magazine clips, there's a high magazine I don't know what that is but it's a high magazine apparently you can smoke this in a high capacity she left the word out yeah I know what she means John but the whole point is she could have been high She's showing me magazines which are typically made of plastic

2:48:31 And there's not nothings burned. Nothing score high magazine clips several semi-automatic handgun Semi-Automatic versus the automatic hand guns he had a semi-automatic Hand gun it says it's it or its semi-automatic you does not a machine hand gun bombs He was wearing a vest a military helmet military help This man certainly knew what he was doing and he wanted to wage war. Not a single, so they're showing the entire table not a scorch mark on him Okay well let me ask you another question then Let's just say that

2:49:07 They were well made and they wouldn't scorch. But in that temperatures where you would have a body that was apparently burnt to a crisp, to the point where they say they found his dental records because he had no fingerprints or anything... He was like barbecue! Now in that kind of heat wouldn't the bullets in the magazines be exploding? Explode now and again? Yeah. Making a mess out of the gun or the magazine so you would not have a magazine... The high magazines! A high magazines that would be intact, it'd all screwed up, messed up by the bullets exploding in the magazines. Yes. Was that the case?

2:49:50 John all I'm telling you is that they are showing me a table with police officers showing it You know like as a sign Christopher Dorner's arsenal with an arrow right and they're showing the showing me his His jacket, his military helmet. It's a jacket burnt? It's all perfectly, it's fine. How did the jacket? What can I buy one of these jackets? Well so here is my favorite Bruns...I think it was a Bruns Clothing actually. This jacket doesn't burn. Brunsclothing.com? The guys who donate pieces of action to the No Jenner Show? It's unburnable!

2:50:31 But I love the rifle and they have the magazines, the high magazines. Plastic ones because a lot of these are plastic you get the metal ones but you can get plastic in fact most that i think these days are plastic And you know, they're not melted or anything. It's just it's all fine You know and no one sees this by the way There's no like I mean if the zombies are so programmed and hypnotized now of course The big thing is the reward So we need to now as I said it was only for the capture and not for the killing of him So I think that no one's gonna get it anyway But if your gut if you're gonna give their award are you whistling? No go on Oh, I thought you were whistling at me

2:51:10 Much breathing into this just happen to have the slide whistle on my lips Okay, sorry okay? Do you have a tell okay you haven't when you're breathing through the slide whistle I didn't know what was going on oh So, you know we're going to wind it. We have to do something with this reward so let's find someone to give it too. The authorities did not address in the press conferences who is going to get the $1 million reward for tips that led to the capture and conviction of Dorner

2:51:49 The Los Angeles Police Department has just issued a statement and it says the following. Due to the large number of inquiries into the reward, the Mayor's Office and the Los Angeles Police Department remind media outlets that reward monies cannot be distributed until the investigation is complete which takes time. Final decisions on the dissemination of the reward on this case as in all reward cases will be made upon completion of the investigation Well, one potential candidate is Rick Heldbrek. He says Dorner pulled a gun on him then took his truck leaving him and his dog unharmed and Rick joins me now out front of it... Rick I just was when i first read that do you know who this guy is?

2:52:26 This is the guy... I don't know. There's a budget to this, but I can't even follow the story anymore! This is the agent that we played the clip from! This is the guy who said this! Now with the man who lost his truck to Christopher Dorff. Or the agent that was talking- Listen listen listen. This is the guy who they're gonna give it too. Rick Helterbrek. Here we go. Take them through what happened you were coming up a side road on the highway and he saw some law enforcement in the area What happened? I saw something moving in the trees and then I could see there was somebody with a gun Now there's been a lot of people up around here with guns searching buildings and things like that. So I'm not unused to seeing them, but this was an odd area for that to be. And by the time that thought process ended, I realized it was Christopher Dorner

2:53:09 A vehicle crashed in the snow behind him. Remember this guy, the vehicle guy? Oh yeah the cop! Yeah with a wrap around black sunglasses that's who they're gonna give their reward to! Yeah it's just these phonies not getting anything it's just they're gonna give it back to themselves as part of the cash bonus It's just like an actor Welcome to San Bernardino! It's amazing Amazing. But they also found a fake girlfriend. Dorner swung from calm to murderer, potentially. Let's get some insight on him from Ariana Williams. She dated Christopher Dorner five years ago. It is nice to have you with us. You dated back in 2006 I guess? Oh 2006! Is that five years ago really?! How about seven years... A little more than 5 years ago. Tell me a little bit about... So they just drum up some woman

2:53:56 She's an actor and she just an actor, and she has nothing to say. What you first thought when you heard that he was the suspect in this manhunt? I think anytime you hear something of this nature or this extreme it's a shock. Doesn't she sound like a real girlfriend doesn't she? And I mean... Sounds like a voice over announcer! Listen we just need somebody get me the list. Who do you have? Well, I don't have to actor list here. I got voiceover talent That's great this great just whoever yeah after an African American voice much in shock probably as an ex-person And it was just like it threw me for a loop But did you think I'm shocked through me for a loop but I expected it or was that I'm shocked He could never have done something like this

2:54:41 I'm shocked. I sort of expected it, I can't honestly tell you that I would say... I'm shocked? I sort of expected it?! Oh this would never happen! When you see signs of someone's behavior in the manner that stress-induced type behavior also coupled with maybe how their personality already is I think it makes it easier to understand why something like this could possibly happen. Oh, did he beat you up? Did he go crazy? Did he whack you upside the head? Did he pull a gun on you?! What kind of signs were you seeing that would lead you later not thinking that was such stunning development? Well...I think just a lot of on-the job stress and maybe his beliefs and values about how cops should behave. What!?

2:55:27 Yeah, those are... he had a stressful job. That was clear sign This is bullcrap! This is sooo, soooo fake So phony And this our buddy here What's her name? That how I address all my buddies What's your name? Our CNN buddy What's your name? What's your name?! Oh, Aaron No, the morning show girl who about to be replaced by Aaron Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Betsy! I'm just hearing a little bit at that time about how he was a little bit stressed out at work He was a little bit stressed out at work so it made total sense that he could flip It threw me for a loop Oh people get better actors Get better script writers That too yes Soledad O'Brien Ah Soledad alright Betsy Betsy play us out big man Can we do the Ask Adam thing?

2:56:32 How many lightning strikes are there daily in the world? Daily in the world, um... Wow. I mean like striking the ground building structures trees Yeah yeah discharges Including your potato No it has to be a lightning no not static discharge Not static really? No you know what I'm talking about I'm gonna say 10 000 Play it Astonishingly, 40 strikes occur every second. That's more than 3 million strikes a day! Wow... was that porn? No this is part of Nova's new style it's terrible

2:57:28 And they have, for example the upcoming Nova which is going to be something you'll be interested in. Which I think is a brainwashing... Nova's gone off the deep end. Now Nova's public television isn't it? Of course! Nation's treasure. So this is the upcoming? Play The Roots of it but this is an upcoming Nova and you can check it out and know what its gonna be about. It's gonna be about drugs Nova investigates the roots of violence. The question on everybody's mind is how do you prevent the next Newtown? Are killers born or made when we compare people who commit violent acts against people who don't commit violent acts brain differences begin to emerge. Is mass murder driven by an urge to kill, or a wish to die if we want to understand a murderer suicide We need to start by understanding this suicide unlocking the mind of a rampage killer next time

2:58:18 Of course if we can see these brain that we can see the brain activity at a very young age and but We can correct it with them with some medicine drugs. Yes with some drugs Exactly, okay Wrapping up from my end I guess there's a new SARS like virus that shows person-to-person transmission coming up This is very good no more kissing yep At least not with tongue Bird flu in Germany. I thought there was bird flu in Mexico? Yes, there is! Well that's...I'm sorry that is not just bird flu in Mexico you know what that is? The War on Chicken That's right. Didn't they kill like half a million chickens or something? Yeah some 500 thousand birds had to be put down

2:59:16 Or shipped to the US one of the two You're soaking in it now Madge Okay, let me see Yeah, no I think we're pretty much Got some I got in the show notes which is at four eight eight dot na show notes calm We always have all the clips the art the credits All the stories we've talked about and more there's a lot of stuff We just don't get to so make sure you check out your daily show notes for eight eight dot na show notes comm In that I will put a link if you're a sysadmin, and you feel like contributing to the cartel area project

2:59:57 There's a Google group, you can go download the sources from GitHub and install it. And help us out with some programming there is still a lot of work that needs to be done or you could just set one up and run it for your friends. I have possibly an end-of show clip where you play now Which I want to get off the list because i'm going to keep sending it in until It gets played. Okay, we had gore vidal if you remember about yes eight shows ago from talking in 1990 No 1968 1969 haven't we already done this clip? No no This is a new version when it came late. It's came 40 years later

3:00:33 This is one of the last clips he did before he died, but he's always been suspicious of the military-industrial complex and takes it for granted that the whole place has been taken over. But in this case he slams a bunch of the Dara, and you have to remember that he is a big time progressive liberal And he slams a bunch of the heroes of the left in a very funny way that's kind of depressing. We can play at the end or... Why don't we play it now? I was going to do a very short end-of-show clip with Cornel West calling Obama a war criminal, thought that was kinda fun That's always fun Yeah okay let's listen to Gore Vidal Now just refresh our memory this is not The Shampoo Guy right?

3:01:14 It's funny, Gore Vidal is related to Al Gore and all the Gores that came before. Oh really? And a very famous novelist playwright and all these other things... He was blackballed early in his career because he was extremely gay and had written his first novel when he was 19 years old and got black balled because it was about being gay. Of course that changed anyway so... Was he a gay hipster? I don't know if there are such things. They're very simple, this guy's the bad guy and this guy is the good guy we're going to root for him he may have his problems but so...I see the world having been brought up in a political family i know the mixture that people are Harry Truman did more harm to the United States than any president in our history and was one of the nicest most honorable men

3:02:06 but he replaced the old republic with a national security state, with the Cold War. As Charles Beer the historian said we are now set for perpetual war for perpetual peace and then we've had 50 years of that and yet he's venerated you know because he is nice little man People are mixtures And if your brought up in Washington and your family is in the trade of politics You know how complex people are. I often say that one of the worst presidents in the United States was Jack Kennedy In 1000 days he got us into an invasion of Cuba that failed, a missile crisis nearly killed us all and into the Vietnam War. I said another thousand days we would all be dead. But weren't you his friend? I said I was very much his friend. I adored Jack Kennedy

3:03:00 He was the greatest gossip that ever lived, among other things. He was a wonderful guy! He was a god-awful president! Now can't you get the two things in your head? I don't know what it is done to the American brain but if you like somebody everything he does it's okay. You know uh...I do want to point out you said this is...Obama Well, you said that Gore Vidal said this before he died. You realize you said that right Yeah. You also realize that's kind of a ludicrous statement? Yeah, okay I think it was implying that It was before he died Well if he was talking after he died then that would be awesome

3:03:44 Yeah, well. Anyway I just thought it was... Now looking back on it's a shitty clip but its beside the point It's not a shitty clip! First of all Truman was the one that instated the police state? Oh yeah no in fact Dulles John Foster Dulles and then Alan Dulles The guy who really started the CIA They were progenitor of the whole thing That was all put into play by Truman in 1947 No, the state we're in began in 1947 all thanks to Truman and like I said it's a police security state. It has been a police state since 47 before 47 you know it was not good country. Now Truman was this...Truman was that the election where he is holding up the newspaper that says Dewey wins? Yeah So was at the first election that was stolen then? Possibly What was Truman Democrat or Republican? Democrat I rest my case

3:04:41 Interesting. The war party? Was that what he was... My dad used to always say, oh the Democrats are the war party and the Republicans are the depression party Well I guess we win... He's only beginning to realize what he said Yeah well we win either way At least we have a show And we have a war Yeah either we have a war or we have a depression Either way we have a show this is good news Yeah and i don't think it's changing anytime soon No Alright, John. Um... Hey, John? No Can I say something? No What no? What?! I said-I wanna say something! Why don't you just say it why are you asking for my permission? Because i want to make sure your not on the slide whistler doing anything else. Well I was gonna get on the cowbell but go on. Alright well I love you man Thanks Coming to you from The Boxes and soon from The

3:05:43 What was it? Drone target number 33, the crackpot cabana. Hopefully if all goes according to plan and I'll be on Thursday right here at NOAA agenda. In the morning I'm Adam Curry everybody And from northern Chilicon Valley where i'll be painting a big X on my roof with that IR paint I'm John C Dvorak and we've got no agenda producer update coming up Uh, on the stream and we'll be back on Thursday. Support us Dvorak dot org slash N a support your. Best podcast in the universe adios mofos coming home to roost we've been talking about this for a good while the Immorality of drones dropping bombs on innocent people has been over 200 children so far these are war crimes I think we have to be very honest. Let us not be deceived Nixon Bush Obama there were criminals they have killed innocent

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