Episode 474 · Sunday, 30 December 2012

Mongolian Hat

A strategic military deployment to the Central African Republic and the reauthorization of warrantless surveillance signal a massive expansion of executive power as the year closes.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 38m listen | 38 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 474

About this episode

President Obama authorized the deployment of 50 U.S. troops to Chad to facilitate evacuations from the Central African Republic, though evidence suggests the movement secures strategic oil pipelines. Simultaneously, the Senate reauthorized the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act for five years with the support of Senator Dianne Feinstein. This expansion of warrantless wiretapping contradicts previous executive promises while reinforcing a domestic surveillance apparatus that now includes National Guard searches on New York City transit.

Attorney General Eric Holder recently defended the legal rationale for targeted assassinations of American citizens abroad, categorizing individuals as enemy belligerents without formal declarations of war. In Europe, the transition to EMV smart cards and PIN-based chips represents a liability shift from financial institutions to individual citizens. Meanwhile, the EPA maintains a 9.1 million dollar valuation on American lives as background check delays for firearm purchases in Colorado spike from minutes to seven days. Additional reports indicate the Russian Federation has officially entered the World Trade Organization, opening U.S. markets to specialized Russian manufacturing including high-quality vacuum tubes.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak ring in the New Year with a 180-proof bottle of No Agenda Moonshine and a final 2012 knighting ceremony. An anonymous intelligence community professional provides a limited edition 60th-anniversary NSA challenge coin while warning of the shifting linguistic culture within the agency. The program concludes with a look at the Greek soccer team sponsored by the Villa Erotica brothel.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Introduction

Adam Curry introduces the program from Amsterdam, describing his 24th day of living in exile in the "lowlands of Gitmo Nation." John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley, and the two engage in banter regarding their timing and the technical delays of the broadcast.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· amsterdam· silicon valley· gitmo nation

00:00 Everyone's now putting their kids in front of cameras and microphones, and like getting them to say things like this. Living out the last days of the year in the lowlands of Gitmo Nation. Day 24, living in exile in Amsterdam In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And back in Northern Silicon Valley South of Northern Northern Northern Silicon Valley I am John C. DeVore What? All over my name Well come on all those things like...I'm John C

00:41 Like what are you like? Yeah, yeah Like we're announcing you onto the basketball court John Please What is this? You stepped all you didn't even wait. You can even get to the duh No, but he went because and you never do a long see oh Never ever you don't do it John. This is how robotic we become on the show Click click I'm trying to anticipate because we have a delay and all that stuff, you know, I'm trying to anticipate your yours So you're hitting this thing on the letter unseen see ya? Yeah exactly Devorah Like well Chamberlain John C

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Death of News Broadcaster Arnold Langeberg

Adam Curry reports the death of his friend and former colleague Arnold Langeberg at age 63. Langeberg was a news broadcaster who worked with Curry during a 2004 broadcast from Iraq and had recently battled cancer.

arnold langeberg· iraq· broadcast· cancer· obituary

01:34 Rebound! Volrak!" Yeah, it's kind of like that. Well it has been a weird day... sad day today John as one of my friends died. Oh thats not good. An old friend? A new friend? A young friend? How old was he? This is Arnold Langeberg, 63 very-that's very young to die He was the news guy that I worked with for couple years including the broadcast from Iraq in 2004 And he was kind of like a buzzkill actually. He was very, very funny guy. Dry humor and I knew he had cancer like a year ago and then he actually kicked it... ...and we had little bit contact but no idea come back all sudden just like oh he died. So I see one of those 63 man that's not that much older than I am!

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Texting Misunderstanding and Russian Hooker Anecdote

A late-night text message from John C. Dvorak led Adam Curry to believe an emergency had occurred. When Curry called the number back and a woman answered, he jokingly admits he feared Dvorak had suffered a heart attack involving a Russian hooker, though the woman was actually Dvorak's wife, Mimi.

mumble· texting· mimi· russian hooker· communication

02:32 You know? It's like 16 years older. That's uh... bummer. It's random Yeah, yeah I guess so And not to mention that i thought you were dead the other day! That was a shock Why would you think that I'm just gonna send you a long text message, and so I wanted to see if you were awake So I sent you a message. Are you around right here? You might be in bed And I'm not gonna sit there typing away do some you know to oblivion hey hold on don't get angry listen And so I type way so use the panic no No yes okay, and you call my wife Tell the story

03:11 No, that's not how it went. You sent a text message... Exactly how it went. No that's not how I went you send a text message and it was like quarter to 12 and were on my third Manhattan were about to go home with some friends hanging out That is over my limit by the way as you know. Yeah! You know that there are more than I can handle And then I get this text message Are you around? That is most uncharacteristic thing ever received from you Ever Are you still there? I thought i lost ya. Did you just die on me? Hello? Hello Jean? Jean! Come back Jean! Oh my god... Yeah, I'll restart mumble. See this is what I mean. I only have to talk about it and the guy keels over. Crap. Hold on let's see what happened to him

04:06 Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Well all of a sudden you were gone! Were you still hearing me?! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no So I in my phone it's like so there are you around this is nothing. This is not John C Dvorak at all, so I'm like okay the something is wrong he's gonna tell me he's ill or He doesn't want to do the show anymore Or you know some family meeting you know it's like how do you jump to these conclusions? Well because it was so uncharacteristic and excuse me I've been living an exile in a shoebox And you know it's weird as well life was little weird right now

04:55 And so then I'm like, I press call. Are you quite done? Hold on. I press call calling the number that texted me and then a woman answers! So when I receive a text message and I called the number that sent me the text message... ...I'm expecting to get your phone okay? Hold on a second So basically this all happened because you violated, violated the rules of texting. What do you mean violated? This was an emergency like I'm like something's wrong! I gotta talk to you... You didn't need me just say in fact I texted back and said yes what up and then you didn't call so i waited for 10 minutes and that's when I called the number so where did I violate

05:50 You're never supposed to go outside the texting world when you're texting. You don't start calling and then texting and calling I never got this text that you just said Well, I sent it. I sent a text message back... Let me check. This is on Google No no your Mr Consistency with all your communications You've got 8 million phone numbers So anyway so I hit call after I get no reply to this And then a woman answers and I say hello, she says hello. She sounds young by the way. In my mind she sounds like young blonde with short hair. I don't know why but I'm telling you the truth! Then I said hello?

06:33 is John there? I'm going to have to take a message. Well this is Adam, oh Adam it's Mimi so then we get the talk and figure out what this all about but I swear to God John I thought there was a Russian hooker and you had had a heart attack on top of her This is the only thing that I could think of! And I didn't tell Mimi at the time. This is what comes to your mind when I send a simple text are you around? Holy mackerel you are crazy I gotta get out of here. I need to get out of this country! You're totally... I'm telling you. You're going nuts over there. Yes, yes it's true. It's true. Anyway that was very funny by the way Did you tell Mimi that i thought she was a Russian hooker?

07:21 I don't remember telling her that but whatever the case, she'd think it was a compliment. Anyway so then you know today then yes you got to get out of there yeah my pal dies and you know it's just weird when you go into certain situations with people and one of them... The guy was on my show for like two years on the radio But we were in Iraq for like a week and you really bond with all the guys. You can't explain that, I've also bonded with a lot of the Marines who I was with at the time. That's a lifelong thing and this is... And then of course Ms. Mickey is like well it's only gonna be like this from now on! Don't you realize? Oh just more people are going to die!

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Living in Amsterdam Time Zone Experiment

Adam Curry reflects on his daily life in Amsterdam, noting that the primary difference in his workflow is the shift in time zones. He observes that being on the "other side of the clock" provides different RSS feeds and news perspectives, which he considers testing as a permanent experiment.

amsterdam· time zone· rss feeds· news network· exile

08:08 I'm like, what? Yeah. Well that's helpful! Well she did say first do you want a hug? She said that first. Well that's nice. She gives you a hug and then drops that bomb. This is what it's gonna be from now on. Get old or ya die. I don't need this at all Anyway, people have been emailing a lot and saying oh my gosh you know the shows are so good that you're in Amsterdam. And I'm trying to think what is really different because i'm not leaving the house, I am not walking the streets of Amsterdam You know just getting drunk at night there's nothing... it's like I don't know if its day or night here It's always grey and the only thing I can come up with

08:57 Is that I'm in a different time zone. So when i'm going through, you know like the knowledge and the news network And my RSS feeds i'm getting different feeds because of the different time zone There is factually nothing Different than that and i'm thinking if we ever do get back i'm gonna try this as an experiment for a couple weeks I'll just live on the other side of the clock And then see why don't you just here's a here's the better experiment. It does an ab test Okay, never say you're back Yeah, no yeah just bitch about hamster dad it sucks cold Who was that that sent uh That sent a picture of the one of me outside by the trash cans and he said this is fake You're on a you're on a tropical island Yeah, it was funny Oh man oh man oh man oh man

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Mongolian Hat Acquisition via No Agenda Producers

A listener known as Dr. Peter successfully sourced a specific Mongolian hat that the hosts had previously discussed. The hosts joke about the "power" of the No Agenda producer network to procure obscure international items like furry leather-rimmed headwear.

mongolian hat· dr. peter· producers· no agenda news· fashion

09:49 Yeah, oh Anyway you can cross one off of the off of the red book It was only Thursday that I said I betcha that if we wanted with our vast network That is the no agenda news The No Agenda producers and listeners that I could get a Mongolian hat with a picture of the Mongolian dude whose Hat whose head it was looking really sad. Well Let me tell ya dr. Peter has done it for us. Oh He has the picture of the Mongolian dude looking really sad and he's ready to send the hat wherever we want to receive it. Are we powerful or what? Yeah, if you call that power... Where is our leader, Jeff?

10:37 That's about the extent of our power But that's it. Yeah, we can get a Mongolian hat with the picture some poor schlub Who you stole the Hat? That's right ladies gentlemen Look at what a Mongolian hat looks like he said actually I don't think afford now I think he copied you on the link to what I see it like yeah It's one of those furry fuzzy things There's a bunch of them. There's ones with the pointy top, there's one that's all fur with a tail... Well I'd have to look at it. Oh I know which one you're talking about! You talk about one where it has got a rim of fur and then leather in the middle? Right exactly thats' the one That is a gorgeous hat to have Yeah you would look like a complete douche You would look great in an Astrodam wearing that With a big target on my back And by the way It will keep you very warm yeah for sure I used to wear bare skin cap Hat

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

European Smart Cards and Bank Liability Shifts

The hosts analyze the transition from magnetic stripe cards to EMV smart cards in Europe and the United States. They argue that the shift to PIN-based chips is a "banker scam" designed to move the legal liability for fraudulent charges from the financial institutions to the individual citizens.

smart cards· pin· banking fraud· liability· mechanics bank

11:31 And I'd wear the, or no beaver. A beaver hat and I... You can't you just start sweating. You could be sitting sit down naked yeah, and you'd be swallowed and do the Podcasts would be sweatin cuz so much heat comes why did you just give me the visual of you? Naked with a beaver hat on doing the show Please don't do that good think about that in your dreams Please please don't do that to me again there has been a lot of really great response to the previous episode I got a lot of comments on the financial thing we were talking about, about this all pin no cash. About the difference between the American magnetic stripe swipe cards and these smart cards here in Europe except for Germany. Did you get the picture that I sent you? Of the shop here that says No Cash All Pin? I emailed it to ya. You got that okay. Yeah yeah. I got a note from someone too and I don't know if its the same note your gonna read. From Simon?

12:32 Don't know Ricky. I have to look at the note to see what's wrong hmm let me find the note and you can Let me tell you what so Simon works for He doesn't want me to disclose exactly, but he works for a company in the UK where and he's of course either a sysadmin or developer. I think he is in charge of all the technology that goes on with this particular corporation. Okay, mine from Mike Allen so I'll read mine after you're done. So he does a lot... he's in charge of all the processing for this company. He says the reason why

13:09 Europe has moved towards this system and why America will most definitely be moving towards it is because You choose your pin number When you get this card, in fact you go into a special little booth and then you choose your pin number. It's programmed onto the chip ergo The responsibility is entirely yours And if something goes wrong if there is a purchase made with your card it is no longer the bank's Responsibility the bank has no liability for fraudulent charges and this is why it's so important So it either shifts it towards

13:49 In some cases the merchant if it's an online where these I think is the 3d secure card or whatever It's called but basically the whole idea is to move all of the liability and responsibility onto the citizen ultimately So but already here in Europe. The bank says hey look, you know someone had your pin code Is your job to keep that safe not our problem? Shut up slave That's what the note that I got from Simon What did you get? Okay, well let me just analyze what Simon said first. Mine's a little different and longer but here's what has been going on obviously you can charge 18% on these cars because it's to cover the amount of fraud that goes on because there is so much fraud with these cars it's ridiculously low With our cars, with the magnetic strike cars yeah right

14:38 And you're only liable for the first $50. So you don't have to, but they keep trying to sell you this insurance policy which is another scam. Let's buy the insurance or else! Well no one is buying the insurance who has got a brain so they say okay well we've gotta find some other way to screw our customers because we are the banks and the customers need to be screwed by us and so they decided to dream up this other scheme which is more secure and then now they have to push the responsibility not on their ridiculous, you know giving away cars and throwing them in the mail and doing all this crazy stuff they do. And make it the responsibility of the customer and then now they can sell both two things one they won't have the fraud so that 18% interest rate it's great if we keep it all because nobody gets

15:25 It puts two and two together. And, two they get to sell the insurance so they get to gouge you for two things! This is a classic banker scam fantastic I love it. I'm getting myself back really loud now did you change something? Did you move? No i didn't do anything Put the beaver hat back on then Let me take off my clothes Adam did not get is from Mike Allen. I'm gonna not give the correct picture about using American cards in Europe and perhaps Causing confusion among the listeners to the best Once again, Adam is a douche Adam is wrong doesn't know what he's talking about Okay, right just want to make sure we set that up Okay under European law The retail slival for any fraud where they don't check photo identity of a card users kind of beating around this same bush But he's like doing the same thing It's nothing it's not the end at no analysis

16:16 Assuming the user has an EMV, Euro card master. By the way Citibank has these cards. Yeah they're called World Elite which I think is hilarious. Yes it's very funny! World elite card! We saw this in a note. The liability shifts from using the bank while leaving the retailer without risk maybe Adam has come across some retailers in the Netherlands who don't understand the legal requirements Or have decided to tell the staff not to take non-EMV cars, but it's the same everywhere including Germany under European federal law. What often sees Asians and Middle Easterners with EMV cars issued by their banks are the practices spreading outside of Europe like the GSM mobile phone

16:58 If you want to go the Dorian restaurant, they said they take your money. But anyway what else did he say? Card fraud has greatly reduced as a result... there we go! That's what the whole thing is. Well it's not about reducing... It keeps interest rates high. Yeah exactly. It's not about reducing the fraud it's about shifting the responsibility onto the customer so that it's your problem. Because you know, we have a great bank, we have Mechanics Bank and remember the last Hot Pockets tour? Maybe the one before... So we're in God knows where were and all of sudden we get like $400 withdrawn in Los Angeles And the bank goes okay no problem It's not you We'll take care of it Anything immediately they take In fact even when Mickey paid a fine

17:47 in Los Angeles and they double charged her card. They said, okay we'll just credit you the half the fine or one times a fine and will take it up with them really good but that is just kind of over here You know here, once you've authenticated that's it. You're done as your responsibility no one is going to help you get back. Yeah if we got double charged too bad! Too bad pounded baby! We don't have time for you slime balls Shut up! Now we have one of the last real banks Yep we do, even though there is still a bank I want him and then he has this little comment as a PS Adam mentioned that he still has a Dutch Bank account And now this is a question doesn't ask Adam Why don't you use that account? Hello

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

International Banking Challenges for US Citizens

Adam Curry explains why he avoids using his Dutch bank account for show donations despite the lack of fees in the Eurozone. He cites the heavy reporting requirements for American citizens holding foreign accounts, which often leads banks to close accounts to avoid the associated paperwork.

iban· eurozone· banking· reporting· american citizen

18:35 I lost you. Is this what it's gonna be today? Is this what it is? Hello! Aw man, that's annoying... And particularly because I gotta reach over to get to that computer What is going on here? Hello? Now he's really gone Okay Let's wait for him to log back in I'm telling ya- You there? Yeah, I just came back and did the same thing This is crazy Okay anyway so ask Adam Adam has a Dutch bank account Yes

19:15 Yes, there are no bank charges in the eurozone for payments to other eurozone bank accounts other than say a 20 cent debit fee. Nothing if you have free banking. At your end, you wouldn't have to pay the 5% and the donor would just go to their PC and put in Adam's IBAN and amount and approve the transaction of jobs done there is space for messages to the beneficiary too I can't use PayPal because PayPal won't accept my platinum visa card but i would have no problem with a bank payment Adam could see the incoming payments if he signed up for e-banking even while his wife is in captivity in her own country more IBANS

19:51 Yeah. You can get more on IBANJ, there's a Wikipedia article called the National Bank. If we start sending all these transactions back to the US then this account is gonna get closed because I've been using it as an American citizen they have to report that my account is over any day now they're going be like hey man... We don't want do all this paperwork so we're gonna close your account That's exactly what they say. It's how they sound when they say it too, like So we did something else that I'm gonna get off my chest here There's a very very small movie theater right around the corner They have four screens and it's literally like you know Like someone's extra bedroom You know so maybe each each theater has I'm just gonna guess maybe 50 seats and maybe 70 75

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Argo Movie Analysis and State Department Influence

Adam Curry critiques the film *Argo*, noting a "special thanks" to Huma Abedin in the credits. He suggests the movie was a State Department psychological operation intended to bolster the Obama administration's image, potentially linking it to the timing of the Benghazi incident.

argo· ben affleck· huma abedin· cia· state department

20:51 And so we go to see Argo. And of course, you know when this whole Benghazi thing came down which we knew was a complete con job it was guys hired in Tunisia to go and kidnap the ambassador and then it went wrong and couple guys died including the ambassador and that screwed everything over So, we knew that Argo came out at the same time which has a very similar theme. It was in fact... The whole idea was to make President Obama look like a hero very much like what eventually happened with Reagan when he got all the hostages back There's little thing called Iran Contra involved and there were some other shenanigans going on so I'm kind of expecting this movie if you've not seen it with Ben Affleck You know? To be kind of in line

21:41 And so I'm watching this thing and you know it's based on a true story. And it ends, and like okay well gee that was a nice CIA movie... Have you seen the movie John Argo? No, I wasn't planning to see it. Oh you might want to see it now because so I'm the guy that sits there and I always want To see the credits because they'll want to see You know just who's really in I want to see the producers? I want to see who paid for it Yes And it's all on the credits So you can't really I guess you could probably get off of IMDB maybe but to see it in the theater is important So the lights are even on at this point cuz no one sits around for the credits apparently in Holland and I yeah and miss Mickey and our stay in their

22:22 And we're just waiting and we're waiting. Then the first thing that comes by is, Central Intelligence Agency did not approve the use of their logo or anything like... Wow! Okay so the CIA clearly wasn't involved then all of a sudden Carter voiceover comes on which is Carter and whether it's him or what it sounds like him inside off was a voice artist or if it's just over really was him and it's basically Carter taking credit for getting these six hostages back and of course we know that what really happened is yeah you know Canada got the credit but these six hostages came back with the real Ben Affleck from the story. But then a couple guys died, they tried to go and get the rest of the hostages that all became a fiasco then of course Reagan won the presidency and he brings them all back and he's the super duper hero but the way it was played it was like oh my god! They're giving Carter credit

23:18 for bringing back the hostages kind of rubbing over the whole, you know don't worry about the other ones and all that. There's no mention of all this stuff that went wrong and then it says special thanks to... The first name on a list who do you think that is? If you think State Department, if you think State Department You think they made this movie They did it in concert to kind of mind control people into getting ready for the whole Chris Stevens kidnapping and the president would look great when he had like a Ben Affleck go in which of course would be Obama because Navy Seals didn't kill Osama Bin Laden. Obama did Well... Kind of fake killed whatever

23:59 So if you think State Department, if you think a set up and you think this movie is completely setup to be apart of this whole ruse who would the first name on the special thanks too? Well I mean... It's a trick question obviously. Well it can't..it wouldn't be Hillary or would it? Huma Abedin Oh that is a trick question She's listed?! She's the first one! Special thanks Like, okay. So this was the whole... Yeah go ahead That's amazing! Good catch by the way good for you So it really is true It was a whole State Department movie and it was really set up to be part of this whole psychological operation so no wonder Hillary was incensed when it went wrong She's like wait a minute I financed this movie

24:58 I got all this, i got it all set up and then the Tunisian guys screw it up. Screwed it up! Literally so she was so mad it was amazing that was the giveaway that thing was a scam yeah she was very pissed off very not only that but she ended up getting a guy killed yeah then there's that minor detail Can you just turn your mic like three degrees or something? It's for some reason it's just slapping back. Now I'm booming! Yeah, you're booming... yeah this is better now. Am i okay now?

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Show Logistics and EPA Human Life Valuation

The hosts discuss the EPA's valuation of an American citizen's life at 9.1 million dollars, a figure frequently cited on the show. They also acknowledge the contributors to the No Agenda Art Generator and provide the URL for the episode's show notes.

epa· human resources· 9.1 million· show notes· art generator

25:37 Now you don't hear me at all. No, I hear you Unfortunately is this better? It's not about it's about it's about me hearing myself That's I don't want to hear myself coming through your microphone So it's just oh now you were he was fine a minute ago and that's alright I can move the bike and move them anyway so no whatever You did just a second ago was fine now. It's sucking again, okay hold on let me move back there Is that better yeah, let me see What sorry what was that I don't know if it's a good practice but everyone is now putting their kids in front of cameras and microphones and getting them to say things like this.

26:20 I don't know if this is really good. You're gonna have a whole generation of kids who talk about douchebags and Don't eat me Hillary Clinton It's just it's just not gonna be good. We actually played that by the way. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! A classic Oh my goodness. Anyway, in the morning to you Shittison Dvorak I think we're going to be seen as a corrupting influence In the morning to you Adam Curry! All ships at sea although our ship at sea seems have been moved Also all in the morning to boots on the ground and feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Yes And also our artists who are always contributing to The Art Generator NoahGennerArtGenerator.com Thank You Creepy Uncle

27:09 For the art that we used on episode 473, today is 474. Show notes at 474.nashownotes.com and in the morning to all of the human resources there in the chat room noagendachat.net, noagendastream.com Always nice to see y'all charged up and ready to go depleting your 9.1 million dollars worth of value It's funny I've gotten like four people in the past week who have asked me for a link About that. It's actually the EPA who values a life an American citizen is worth 9.1 million dollars and Four people asked me about that this week alone I don't know what's going on whether say it was that really true to wall Yeah, yeah, we can keep track of this stuff ourselves. No, no Well it's true well It's kind of cool right you can just use the search dot na show notes calm and usually shows up It's actually kind of cool that way

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Year-End Knighthood Donations and Producer Notes

The hosts read several high-value donation notes from listeners seeking knighthoods before the year-end deadline. Notable donors include Doug Owens, a sailor stationed in Afghanistan, and Patrick Vaughn, who celebrated passing his Red Hat certification by donating to the show.

knighthood· donations· afghanistan· red hat· karma

28:09 So one of the things, unless you want to say that we may should thank a few executive producers before we start actually doing anything important. Okay Of course, it's funny because I say that and just as I close... Just as you close the spreadsheet? Very good. Yeah but the great thing about computers is that things can reopen rather quickly especially if you're running a fast machine. Okay. All right so here's what we got. We have a bunch of people that came in because we only have one day left before we stop giving away rings. Right for the knighthoods and everyone gets a pin which I think is better to be honest about it than the rings. Well but, a lot of people also have been saving up uh wanted to just compete it you know so... There are a bunch of people that are on a layaway plan that we're putting the rings aside for and other people have requested to put to do a put-aside because they're on their way and so we've done that right? And but we're going to be running out of sizes shortly

29:09 Doug Owens comes in from overseas, in the army I guess. It's kind of interesting. Wow! With $1,230 and 12 cents a instant night and he says... if I can get this whole note open. He is a ships at sea? No he's a... He's our ships-at-sea guy. Not at sea but in the sand Read the note beginning of this because I have in the morning and end of year to you Doug here from st. Petersburg, Florida in Afghanistan by way of Naples Italy now sir dug the sailor to you not at sea but in the sand so yeah So I guess he's a marine then I'm just I'm just guessing but he's an Afghan He wouldn't call himself as sailor if he was a Marine if he has humor oh

29:57 Of course he does. Maybe. I loved hearing that. Wait a minute, wait a minute John you're telling me the guys in the Navy say i'm a sailor man? Like really is anyone in the armed forces uses that term sailor for themselves no of course not all the hookers say hey sailor He says he loved hearing that he shouldn't listen to No Agenda in Afghanistan as I sat listening in Afghanistan. Now, I don't know who told him this and he doesn't say it. I didn't say that. No, I think somebody over there did. He says I've almost been listening for a year and would have donated earlier but Ron Paul was calling not only for my vote but for my money. He got both from me and all I got was this shitty deployment. All right!

30:43 It also gave me a chance to vote for Gary Johnson. All right, that didn't work either isn't democracy great D douche me if you must but I don't know if it will help with the smell I Like the one-eyed $1 an hour formula doesn't makes me good for a long enough Makes me good for our long enough time to scale my way back after falling over this cliff. I would like to call out Richie Garrido and the neocon statist popper as douchebags. Not only for not giving money, but also for not listening! I'm tired of hitting them in the mouth there's blood on my hands maybe it's from Abadah... what is it? Adabombo

31:29 The most limited, the most liberty minded black guy I know. Okay? I don't know who that is. Adam if i weren't in AFG I'd offer you to stay at my house and Bella Napoli... Napoli! Napoli! Napoli! Really?! Yeah really Bella Napoli right? To help you save a few dollars but my wife didn't sound very thrilled when I mentioned it We do need a house sitter starting at the end of January If you care to watch my dog This can be for as long as you need Since your belongings sound like they may be on the curb pretty soon Here's your chance to find your way down to southern Europe, to get some of your tax dollars back. This could work towards the wife's damehood." No! She needs a hit in the mouth too since I haven't been able... been there to do it. Have no idea what my ring size is so please wait patiently okay well as long as it's not nine and a half anyway So he needs a uh don't eat me Hillary shut up slave in Italian followed with two shots at the head karma

32:27 Wow, okay. So shut up slay... no it's shut up Italian? Okay don't eat me I got it. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton! Shut up Slade! You've got karma. Alright alright I got you man and yeah let's keep our options open for the end of January house sitting in Bella Napoli or Napoleon's John would call it that Pauly Napoleon and the Pauly it said Napoleon right Thomas Warden Millie's since point Sydney New South Wales a thousand instant night gentlemen only been listening for a few months love the show really realize just how much

33:12 I loved it when a month ago while listening to John on one of his Justified Rants after pretty poor round of contributions, I blamed the listeners. Not only do you have a model different revenue model but you rightfully give your listeners a hard time and we still pay up! Love it. I listen to you too has been fantastic and makes me feel a hell of a lot better about being myself Comparatively about being myself comparatively that is and while people's opinions of my opinions have not exactly improved At least they're not they now just blame My rants on YouTube Oh, wait a minute So so wait a minute when when he says something weird in brackets in quotes in parens Then they just say oh

33:54 That's that Curry and Dvorak talking again. Exactly, okay well I mean I do this video...I think everybody does it..I do it with a good friend of mine who just obviously listens to Michael Savage all the time and he just mouths him, this is Michael Savage talking not you so then we've gotten into that level apparently. Unfortunately we haven't gotten his salary level but otherwise yeah. No we havn't got millions of dollars those guys make The Rush Limbaugh, 400 million. I've always been a contrarian now that the award goes on but as i say now at least as my arguments are so peppered with your thoughts they just blame you! I really love propagating the formula and not sure if this is typical but I tend to get two responses after they listen to you They either love it or hate it So far 10-1

34:44 Well that is 10 love, 1 hate. Really? Wow! I don't think so. I think he's confused. The numbers i've been getting are mostly half and half No, I get pretty much hated Well, that's just you. Yeah I am contemplating using this as a method of determining whether i continue to socialize with them aha I always say just preach to the choir This is different decision as some of the haters are are very pretty Oh yeah we have a lot how can this be these poor woman our robots pretty haters Pretty haters oh i'm so pretty but i hate i hate the way they're free thinkers they actually think for themselves conspiracy theorists

35:26 I'm just, you know... As I say, I've loved listening to the two of you. I have always believed that a healthy skepticism for most things and listening to you just cultivates this skepticism and we'll be glad to hear that skepticism is also towards you too. So Tom... Could have summarized better Let me just say to Tom who will be Sir Thomas later today. Thank you very much first of all for that, I love what he says here and this is a continuing theme that it is good for your soul so if you found this program...this is what you're feeling

36:06 You know that you're being bullcrap one way or the other. You feel kind of weird about things that are going on, about the zombie-like way in which most people react and then now all of sudden you find this community which is not just us two... There's art there's music there's all kinds of things underneath these layers of this community and it turns out there's a lot of people like you! And I should mention in many ways we're just a conduit yeah whatever that means No, people send us stories that oh well then we put two and two together. Oh yeah well that's why we have producers uh that's why listeners are producers absolutely Yeah if it wasn't for the listeners this show would suck but it doesn't suck because we have great listeners Producers

36:53 Producers, yeah we have great listeners and producers but producer's mostly the ones who actually get involved. Patrick Vaughn in Traverse City Michigan 834.7 recently passed my Red Hat certified engineer exam with a score of 583 out of 600 decided to congratulate myself by donating this is someone we have to put into notebook I congratulate myself by donating to the No Agenda show so i cashed in some vacation time. Hopefully this helps make Amsterdam bearable for Adam and Mickey, and should finish out my knighthood." And he needs karma. Yeah happy to give you that karma thank you congratulations by the way! You've got Karma with your official certification and you shall be an official sir

37:33 Later on and we have a really long list of nights, which is great. This is because this yeah We haven't said that this isn't the year end of the year. This is it? This is not massive nighthood done after this Yeah, but done with the 2012 nights absolutely Donald Philip Chuck in Calgary Alberta 890 where all the money comes from. Eight nineteen sixty six in close please find my donation knighthood donation here's the best podcast universe give me a hey citizen an original you will obey a douchebag karma thanks sir Donald to you so hey citizen original obey and then what? Douche bag, a douche bag karma really okay Hey Citizen! You Will Obey!

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Drone Strikes and Domestic Surveillance Concerns

A donor note highlights that 176 children have been killed by drone strikes in Pakistan since 2004, drawing a comparison to the Sandy Hook tragedy. The discussion shifts to the presence of the National Guard and Port Authority police conducting searches on New York City transit.

drones· pakistan· sandy hook· national guard· port authority

38:23 You've got karma. Odd, very odd. But he's from Calgary what do you expect? Yeah the Stampede. Home of the Stampede just go check the stampede I want to go Scott William in Ann Arbor Michigan 790 92 Dear Jeb and Alan I'm so glad The Path To Noah Jenna Knighthood doesn't involve dressing up in dark cloaks laying a coffin confessing my secret my secret sexy woes to some long dong silver mofo only to emerge as my new self into a wanton orgy of elites while watching them munch on the sweet breads of some newborn baby. Oh, he must be talking about what's that Bones Club? Or whatever the hell they call it in Yale. Skull and bones. Yeah skull and bones instead it involves giving with joy and that equals loving for 33 years I've been... What was that?

39:17 Bell doesn't sound so good. I've been depleting my human resource value of 9.2 million and even though i'm just an ordinary folk getting by on an hourly wage job, I've managed to give up save-up 790 point 92 this year So I'm giving it all you for the completion of a knighthood unlike any good citizen living out the American dream I happen to be a penny short may humbly request that persistent jet contrail science 2 to the head karma with the penny Okay, I'll do the penny again if i can fit it all in here hold on a second to science through the head karma okay You've got karma Pretty good pretty good. So by the way uses of The word folks well, I have a clip but I have a clip too But let's so let's get through this first and then we'll talk about that's interesting you're the same clip I bet Calgary another Keg area

40:19 in Alberta, Calgarian 73711 no name please just Tim. He needs his gets his knighthood de-douching karma would be great and then he's got some other stuff. Thank you Tim! You've been de-douched. And you shall be knighted today Tim. Lovely thank you. A lot of long notes that Tim thanks for the short note Okay, do you get the beginning of this one or does it just start suggested? I have dear Alan and Jeb my wife Christina suggested the douchebag button. The douche bag button yeah too bad that never took off or else my Christmas list would have been easily taken care of. The other day i discovered 176 children have been killed by drones in Pakistan alone since 2004 he has a source listed which we'll put in the show notes if my math is right that's one sandy hook per year for the past eight years and no one cared

41:14 Granted, I'm looking at a couple of... Hold on. Hold on second! I think we cared. I think we actually have killlist.curry.com. I think we've been tracking it Yes We and we do care is ridiculous the one question especially with the crocodile tears of Obama The one question let me be clear I would not have sought out this information if not for the best podcast in universe So I thought it was time to complete my knighthood accounting at the end, I commute to get my own nation hot dog New York City nuts every day and potentially could you can imagine somebody listen this show. What is these guys maniacs? We're going to lose a lot of newbies

41:55 I'm potentially subject to the search by the Port Authority police and the armed National Guard on every trip. Yeah, that's what yeah That's when you when you take the path train into New York City They have the national guard we've talked about this has been going for years They have a National Guard standing there to pull you aside and frisk you oh yes It's it's getting my little nation hot dog brother. New York City nuts in the meantime please send karma to my wife Christina, Alan, Jeb, Mary and all the no agenda producers everywhere if you can throw in a yay that would be great oh hold on one second I'm sorry I'll get that going off find it yay you've got karma and that was $600 winner. IJ Herca Embargo uh new south wales herka is phonetically pronounced her car

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Public Affairs Programming

The hosts discuss the possibility of the show being aired on a Chicago radio station as a "public affairs" program. They contrast their "value for value" model with traditional advertising and emphasize the importance of listener-producers in maintaining the show's independence.

value for value· fcc· public service· advertising· podcasting

42:46 My location is actually Sydney, despite whatever PayPal tells you. Donating to Get Me Closer Tonight who had decided at the end of the year and because no agenda has kept me sane during these long commutes during the holiday season I love a karma shot for the new year. Absolutely! It's those commuters! You've got karma. Which is pretty much 90% of the audience Yeah pretty much that's a good show for them Thomas Badrick, Nutley New Jersey 38286. Couldn't think of a better way to spend my crappy holiday bonus than to give a hefty chunk to the best podcast in universe and at the same time complete my knighthood in celebration I'd like to hear The Fisco Cliff followed by Little Girl Yay! Here's to being broke together in the new year. Does he want a karma with that or is it just fiscal? I would think so. You've got karma. Cloud Sigma AG

43:40 In Zurich, 330333 Christmas greetings from Cloud Sigma to all the SIS admins and IT slaves of the world. Bernie... Who run the world by the way and are the only saviors? Bernie Atima, Hinton Iowa 333 in the morning John and Anna my donation at 333 completes a knighthood Plus $100 adds 33 to the new pin and shipping so he's gone for the pin perfect now. We gotta keep tracking that So wait a minute, so Like love us so much like hey man here's the here's the money for the shipping of the pin and what's John's response? Yeah

44:24 Wow, I got a nice Nice. It's part of the here's what the problem is. Is that that? Uh-huh? I think it's great that this this idea works But it's like I just know there's gonna be a but I said 33 in and now what do you never heard from you X's we don't read We won't be reading these it's gonna just be I'm gonna have to do something on the database To make sure we pull these out and don't miss anybody Yeah, what I don't know. We're doing a list all the nice and we're gonna have a checklist That's what i'll do i'll make a big print of all the nights there's lots of them and then okay? I'll deal with it Please give me a shout wait wait. Wait. I just I just want this codified John jeb cedar vorak just said I'll deal with it perfect yeah got it. I'll deal with got it You can't deal with it where you are that's 50 bucks to ship a pin I can't deal with anything right now I'm at the edge of my rope

45:17 He needs a shout out John and David. Hey, hey his wife Rose my girlfriend Janet and to daylight doughnuts in Sioux City Hope Adam and Mickey return home soon God's blessing to you And all the listeners of the best podcasting yours and maybe an Atlas shrugged if you have time By Ayn Rand Stephen Sorrell in Amarillo Texas right five right down the road reference from Jennifer and Steven Yeah My name is for now Stefan Can I get a don't eat me Hillary Clinton karma for our growing human resource. Thanks for the show You guys are great. Yeah, good luck getting back to the US and don't get droned over there There you go for your little do you think the human resources growing internally or is already is already in the world

46:12 I don't know, it doesn't make it clear. Well either way... Now we have a note from Severo here and he has a different name actually than this one here which I can pronounce anyway and I'll get to in the break but he gave us 200 bucks from Sao Paulo and he's donating for the first time to listeners that haven't that can't have enough John and Adam, I strongly recommend you listen to old episodes. It's amazingly entertaining to understand how the show evolved and find out how so many expressions were created. You have to listen for a long time we're almost at 500 shows in their two hours average each. No agenda... That's 1 000 hours of programming that we've done for the public

46:52 No agenda really is the best information and entertainment product I have access to. Thank you guys for doing this even during the holidays! We're counting on you two times a week, this donation is celebrating the arrival of my first human resource Gabriel Please de-douche me and give me a little girl hot milf karma for the brand new mom Christina Uh we don't...I don't think we have uh..a little girl hot milf Yeah Oh no, it's a little guy. He sounds like kind of... you know the voice? I get what he is saying. Okay hold on a second. It's one hot milf baby! I think what you just did was better actually. So it said de-douche me... okay. You've been de-douched That's one hot milf baby

47:41 You've got karma. All right. This took me a little work, Matthew DeBile or DeBeal? DeBill I don't know can you pronounce it well Dubille I think it would be Dubille. Naperville Illinois yeah French town probably not French but he's got a French name yeah Naperville is probably not French where he wouldn't be donating. Naperville Illinois $200 Some I missed a chance to include in the note. Give Adam a douche bag for not responding to my email below." Oh yeah, oh yeah! I remember this one. Yeah sure...yeah it's right there. I don't receive any emails. So he is not really a douchebag and just joking. He is General Manager AM Daytime Radio Station Chicago and since we stream 24-7 he actually puts this on the stream and if we clean up or show a little bit so there's no cussing in it so the FCC won't get mad at us. In other words

48:39 thing I did earlier in this donation segment has to be bleeped out. He'll put it on the air in the morning, oh in the morning! Oh really? Like two in the morning like two in the morning so wait a minute is he going to preempt somebody No, no. They have apparently free air time you know it's that stuff that they sell to advertorials or advertisements yeah and we've got time and he believes I went back and forth with Matthew He believes that we actually qualify as a public service public affairs show I know, that's funny. It's like my mom would be so proud. Yeah she would! Mommy what do you guys do? Public Affairs Programming

49:26 Yeah, uh-huh sure wink wink nudge nudge Anyway season for 200 bucks and give him a gratuitous karma Looking forward to dinner too. You've got Karma Matthew says we'll be talking it will be and you know he suggested maybe some users could pull out some of this stuff but We can minimize but the problem is then we have to you have to have a notebook and they're gonna cook, you know Whatever. Well now I want to thank all these I don't have I mean we don't really don't have the time Seriously, I mean just post producing the show There's another two and a half hours that I'm working after each show And yeah by the time this shows done I'm actually tired But it's as weird as it sounds

50:07 And quite honestly, I don't want to hear myself or you anymore at all. So then just the thought of having to go and listen to that crap we just did... I believe it's doable Yeah To be a real public affairs program But I may have to be doing it Or if we could get some... We're gonna do this I mean we have so many listeners wouldn't someone wanna do that? No, you're right what am I thinking No, nobody. People do a lot of work for us but they don't want to kill themselves. What happens is people always get really excited and this is something... Here's a learning moment no matter what the initiative is we've had so many great initiatives they always start off and people are enthusiastic and then after like three four weeks it's like eh really?

50:57 You know and then the kind of exactly There's more work involved with this stuff than people realize it all sounds good on paper. Yeah, we just and we just make it look easy That's our mistake if you like yeah It's me is easy what you do And then so I want to thank all these executive producers and associate executive producers remind people We do have a new year coming up yep, and we would like To start off with a bang for the next show, which will be the New Year's Show and heading towards show 500. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA to continue your support we really appreciate it and

51:34 Adam well, I was going to mind control you for a moment Definitely continue support actually and then we get to the segment later on I have this new arm model our value for value model is Is actually quite astounding? To the mainstream and I have an interesting clip about that in the meantime There's always something you can do and that has always propagated our formula. Oh are formally is this we go out we get people in the mouth and uh... we appreciate the propagation of said formula regardless of any monetary a consideration i you give the program because just to try and get people listen is actually helping humanity and uh... even especially if it's your friends and family and you can and see that they're convincible that they can have

52:40 They just needed a little push to get him over the edge because they're already kind of thinking in the right way. And it comes, and it's the strangest people like I was telling you on Thursday when I was at Miss Mickey's extended family and there is her kind of brother we were just talking about and turns out he's in oil business, oil storage business. He lives in Singapore and all of sudden we have connection for life! You'd be amazed who it is You would really be amazed and when you make that kind of connection, it's good for the soul. It really is nice So let me well We're gonna talk about folks something funny happened I think what you're referring to is the president came back from his vacation Hawaii which I don't think heard him a lot because It's been crappy weather in Hawaii so he like yeah whatever and he did a speech on

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Obama's Use of the Word "Folks"

The hosts deconstruct President Obama's frequent use of the word "folks," arguing it is a diminutive term used to describe the "plebs" or "proletariat." They note that he has begun applying the term to members of Congress, signaling a perceived hierarchy.

barack obama· folks· congress· proletariat· c-span

53:41 Which to me was the most unnecessary thing I've ever seen him do. He flies back just to say, hey nothing new! Well I'm working on it and this is where he... Should I just play my clip and you tell me? No no yeah you should play yours but before you do it let me just say a couple of things okay one we've determined through deconstruction that the word folks as used by Obama Is diminutive it's designed to and he's been going on for years. We just haven't really well We've been talking about it for a long time we talk about him saying if we never really ever thought about the meaning that the larger meaning which is The proletariat or they you know, there are many people It's literally common people the plebs little people Yeah

54:29 So now, for the first time that I can recall...I could be wrong. Because we didn't go back and redo all his speeches but he's now referring to Congress in the exact same way as the little people beneath him He is the king! They still want a vote NO? And let tax hikes hit the middle class? Where did you record this?! This is total crap recording Well then play yours! I'm going too! Hold on Seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again Ordinary folks, they do their jobs. Ordinary folks! So now you have folks in Congress and then you have ordinary folks? Yeah they're the ones that aren't in congress but they're still low level people. So something funny happened with this

55:18 So, I am on cspan.org or cspanvideo.org actually you can clip a piece of the video and then it will republish as a video so i do that and then I post them in my new favorite place to hang out on Google Plus Thank you very much Mike Elgin for turning me into horrible horrible Google Plus person So Google Plus is fantastic and I'll tell you why. So what happens is, no listen to this! No, no, no... You gotta understand so because because I don't know how it works exactly but everything's public and people are following me not everyone who's following me in fact only a minority is in the NOAgenda community. So I post this thing and I'm like really ordinary folks? Really?! And this starts off a thread

56:08 And people are commenting and then people come in. If you come in and you post something kind of as a zombie, and you post that within the No Agenda community it's kinda like kicking over a hornet's nest! They attack you and they just jump on top of you. So there is this guy Wes Hirsch And he's like, oh this is a bit bull crap. The president of course immediately he deduces that I'm a Republican. You know? I love it when people do that and you say hey man what does this president with his ordinary folks business... Oh well at least he's back the Republicans aren't! I'll wait for you to tell me they are! All this like bull crap. Like who is this guy?! Here's what I love about Google+.

56:59 Google is basically the government and so government employees they all have their Gmail. It turns out this guy works for the Geospatial Intelligence Agency in Tokyo, he's a spook! He's bitching and moaning and you go look at his it is Google Plus profile And you can see, you know that here. You know, it's like guns are bad global warming We're all gonna die, you know we're going over the fiscal cliff It's all the Republicans fault so the guys a total zombie and then but wait But wait Then I go look I'm like I want to find out more about this guy and I've any has a LinkedIn profile I'm like okay

57:40 And on his LinkedIn profile, he calls himself the Jason Bourne of geospatial. And this is a Department of Defense intelligence guy! How sick is that? Wow. And so I confront him with it, and like you're insane! You're everything that's wrong with the department... In fact um uh i had some of our human resources go to my wiki page and if you look now at my Wikipedia page I am the Jason Bourne of cheese. I just really want one I wanted to have this in order. I wanted to be a Jason Bourne or something So he was just hilarious

58:20 to see how people jump on. Of course at the end of the thread, 150 messages later I'm sorry i'm actually a racist that's what it is. Oh was this guy black? Chinese? No no no! The guy just says well you know um... It's very typical you don't like what the president says it's probably because he has brown skin. I'm like okay That's logical. All we needed was just, we were still waiting for the Hitler card to be played but I didn't get that one so just very very interesting how people respond to this and in fact someone in the

58:56 there in the No Agenda group says, whenever I hear the president say folks. I always think of this musical. Folks are dumb where I come from They ain't had any learning Still they're happy as can be You do it what comes naturally One more time! Folks like us could never fuss with schools and books and learning So do you know what the musical is that that comes from? No, I think if i thought about it. I could come up with a but what and he go get your gun Oh Annie go get your house twisted is that that is funny? Wow folks like us folks like anyway Yeah in his clip He was my clip as I got a bad head over by screwed it up But Mike that points out that he says the folks you elected to Congress two folks and said before he's now at The folks are also these

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Yogi Berra Quotes and Presidential Rhetoric

The hosts mock President Obama for using the phrase "déjà vu all over again" during a speech. They identify the phrase as a famous "Yogi-ism" from baseball legend Yogi Berra and question whether the president's speechwriters understood the comedic origin of the tautology.

yogi berra· deja vu· barack obama· rhetoric· speechwriting

59:53 parent idiot congresspeople now uh... there's also now they're not kind of you know there is that this is like to be seen but you know the so i a m demeaning your demeaning the president of these demeaning congress will using this term uh... as far as we're concerned and i think i think it's i don't know that he knows he's doing it but he's i think he does it naturally got a couple of some some other comments about from this one is that in hawaii where the president supposedly grew up where he grew up, where he smoked a lot of weed that apparently the term folks is overused in Hawaii. So I'll give him that but then to do this ordinary folks thing is a little bit beyond that But then actually he said something else which

1:00:45 I was commit well maybe you can help me deconstruct why he used this particular phrase. If you can get a majority in the house and you can get a majority in the senate then we should be able to pass a bill so the American people are watching what we do here Obviously their patience is already thin. This is deja vu all over again So so deja vu all over again, which of course is Stupid because you know deja vu is something happening again bless you darling Dejavu all over again was originally It's a famous quote from Yogi Berra who first said that and at the time of course it was funny this is when

1:01:24 When Mickey Mantle and Roger Marris hit back-to-back home runs in like the 60s. But why would he use this? Is he not familiar with the fact that it's a Yogi Berra quote or does he think it's funny? Well, it was done... Yogi Berra quotes were obviously these idiotic naturally idiotic things that he would say. Right And they're all hilarious Casey Stengel was the progenitor of this sort of talk and I don't know because it really says that I'm an idiot or I'm being funny by referencing this deja vu all over again It didn't come out, didn't sound funny The whole thing, the whole conversation is not funny So I just..I mean I really believe

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Amsterdam Fireworks and Machine Gun Liquidations

Adam Curry describes the chaotic year-end firework traditions in Amsterdam, which he finds distressing. He also mentions a recent "liquidation" or gangland-style shooting involving machine guns in the city, challenging the perception of Europe as a gun-free utopia.

amsterdam· fireworks· liquidation· machine guns· gun laws

1:02:12 that someone wrote it for him and he doesn't even know what this is referencing. I would agree with that theory! You know who used to say this, and it used to irk me all the time? Ron Bloom. He'd say it all the time in meetings It's like déjà vu all over again until I finally looked it up and was like why are you saying that? It's lame... In pitch meetings actually Interesting. Yeah, that's a good catch I didn't I didn't notice it It was hard to listen to that guy and not kind of zone out Hmm yeah, but folks every time he says folks it wakes me up Yeah Me too. Me too And it irks me really really hurts and look Wow these really backed off on the look did you hear that? Did you hear that explosion seriously no You didn't hear that you probably did they're shooting fireworks early here in the low That was a lot what

1:03:11 With what? With fireworks. No, why?! Because in Gitmo Nation Lowlands the last weekend of the year then you're allowed to go pick up your fireworks that you buy and everyone has just... they spend hundreds and hundreds of euros per person on fireworks And then on New Year's Eve everyone burns all the crap off It's the stupidest tradition ever! I hate it! I really hate it I'm not a firework guy. I mean, I like watching pretty fireworks but this is all big exploding bombs you know the whole week there's pictures in the newspaper of someone threw a firecracker like an M-80 in the canal and the duck ate it then blew his mouth off and they got a picture of the duck with its beak all blown off It's horrible! And all night long

1:04:04 It's like boom, boom. You'll hear a couple more times before the show is over. Just people are blowing stuff up and you don't even know if it's that or we had a liquidation take place not even a kilometer from here in the city where someone was gunned down machine-gunned in his car Yeah talk about America everybody just getting machine guns and then the guys machine guns the cops Machine gun. I mean we're not talking assault rifle, we're talking machine gun in Amsterdam Sorry? Yeah Well i thought that they respected no guns and in Europe yeah That's right so uh you know there is like Because we should be more like Europeans and be that way No this is a How can the machine gun even appear? I'm telling ya, machine gun Let me read this note from a note that we got from anonymous spook

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

NSA Challenge Coin and Intelligence Community Careers

A female listener working in the intelligence community sent the hosts a limited edition 60th-anniversary NSA challenge coin. She warns listeners about the workplace culture in the "IC," noting that terms like "spook" are now considered derogatory in professional settings.

nsa· challenge coin· spooks· intelligence community· terminology

1:05:04 I just think it's funny. So he sent in a NSA challenge coin It could be he or she Could be a she, could be a she In fact it likely... I'm pretty sure it was a she It reads like, reads more like a male but it could be a she I know who anonymous spook is my friend And its female? Okay, well she says in one of her most recent episodes. I heard you complain about lack of an NSA challenge coin Here's a 60th anniversary limited edition challenge going direct from the fort They've been a no agenda listener for a few years and recently started working for the federal government I wanted to share a tip to any know agenda listener who may be interested in a career in the intelligence community? Okay don't do it That's tip number one Don't do it to a podcast

1:05:52 Is that really what you wrote? John and Adam may refer to the intelligence community employees as spooks. Oh, by the way we're not... That doesn't come from us that's an old term has always been used. Don't use it in the workplace! I turned a lot of heads my first week when i used the term because apparently spook is derogatory term for black person yeah in the nineteen fifties. Yeah really okay Anyways, this is not a good idea to say shut up slave at work. I blame myself for letting that one slip anyway she would

1:06:32 I'd like to call out any govvy or money-grubbing contractor who listens to the show but not donating. She wants us all called out, especially the government guys as douchebags. Douchebag! She wishes us a happy holiday. Yeah so i'm pretty sure uh... I'm pretty sure I know who this is she's smoking high too. It's an honor. She he's anonymous yeah um... I have one more thing on the uh... I have Ron Paul in the fiscal cliff if you're interested Love to hear it. Because you know Ron Paul pretty soon he'll just be gone and then we won't have him anymore at least he won't be, people don't want to interview him anymore because he won't be a congressman again and just be like whatever Before you play that clip then I do have a bunch of retrospective clips that kind of celebrate the year we did in 2012 And i want to remind people

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Ron Paul on the Fiscal Cliff and Spending

The hosts play a clip of Ron Paul on CNBC discussing the "fiscal cliff." Paul argues that neither party is serious about cutting spending, describing the government as "drug addicts" looking for another fix of debt and Federal Reserve intervention.

ron paul· fiscal cliff· cnbc· spending cuts· federal reserve

1:07:25 about how Ron Paul was typically handled during the presidential election with this reminder clip, a Ron Paul event clip. I really don't have to introduce my wife! I think you know my wife Carol and we have a few other members of the family here We have a daughter-in-law Peggy and Lisa Linda Yeah, I remember that

1:08:03 With apologies we have lost our signal from the Ron Paul event and we will work very hard to get that back Thank you for reminding us. You know I have to say that sometimes, i'll be like lying in bed or something I'm thinking about what We're gonna do on this show and just think about all the things that we've covered That no one's ever heard of ever! No one has never been brought up anywhere And this is one of them yeah me of course it just in retrospect you think about it? We've covered a lot of stuff It's pretty amazing that they did that. Okay, so here's a Ron Paul on CNBC talking about the fiscal cliff I kind of did a hack job to Just put two pieces together just so you get all the relevant pieces of what he's saying Which is pretty much in line with what we've been saying all along Nobody's talking about cutting any spending and in the midst of this crisis of a major deficit and a national debt increase coming up

1:09:01 You know, nobody wants to talk about military cuts. Do you think they're not going to give the farmers their due? Because now there's a milk-wee double in price if they do that so the farm bill will get passed. The safety net is always available for rich and poor Republicans and Democrats all support this Now there has been a recent hurricane There will be no hesitation whatsoever To spend that money without offsetting it So the Republicans and Democrats, they pretend they're fighting up there. But they really aren't. They're arguing over power and spin and who looks good and who looks bad but they are all trying to preserve this system where they can spend what they want take care of their friends and let the Fed spritz

1:09:42 to problems. Our government is spending way too much and it's way beyond our means, and there is not a single bit of effort to cut anything even when they talk about slashing the budget in these cuts they're only talking about tinkering on the edges of proposed automatic increases so

1:10:19 They're so far removed from admitting the seriousness of this crisis and if they don't admit it, they can't solve the problem. They're like a bunch of drug addicts that just want another fix and that's what they are looking for. So let me get this straight... everyone is acting and there are a bunch of drug addicts? That sounds about right! Yeah, I think you nailed it. And we always have to remember half of these cuts that are proposed by either side... Are increases and yeah They're cuts of the increases they're not cuts of like you got a program that's costing you 150 million dollars a year and they want to run it up to 200 million so they're gonna cut out say let's say 10% or 20 percent cut We're going to cut 40 million So forty from the two hundred not forty from the one fifty so it ends up going up anyway exactly

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

FISA Reauthorization and Obama's Surveillance Policy

The Senate reauthorized the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) for five years, a move championed by Senator Dianne Feinstein. The hosts criticize President Obama for signing the bill, noting his previous campaign opposition to warrantless wiretapping and his expansion of Bush-era policies.

fisa· diane feinstein· warrantless wiretapping· barack obama· surveillance

1:11:08 It's amazing to me that they get away with this and the media never calls them on it. Well, Ron Paul just mentioned that on CNBC and all 12 people watching heard him Yeah, but CNBC is a classic station that does one thing in one thing only stock tips And so I guess i'm gonna make a few people think twice about what's going to happen in the stock market after the first if they go over The cliff it's going to be interesting to watch So of course amidst all of this, and I'm not in Gitmo Nation United States so i have no idea but I can kind of make an educated guess that this was not covered. And it may be a little bit of coverage here and there sporadically but on the day of our previous show there was a 10-hour session total in Congress and Senate actually

1:12:02 The FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act originally started by Jimmy Carter and of course after 9-11 George W Bush put in the amendments which allowed for warrantless wiretapping i.e spying on the citizens of the United States of Gitmo Nation even though there were two reasonable amendments uh... were uh... uh... vitiated the amendments were just a destroyed in the entrails initiated and uh... the whole thing was that pass for another five years i'm mainly driven by dying diane feinstein of uh... california and now it's like to play a little bit of her uh... first heard the start of her

1:12:50 a monologue there in the senate and you can just uh... we'll throw up in your mouth just when you hear her talk and how she is single-handedly pretty much uh... along with all the other douchebags in the house and in the senate um... decided put place no value on us whatsoever on any of our rights and of course because of all the gun talking or whatever as show business news is going on end of the year retrospectives this was just ran through and no conversation about it whatsoever. In fact, it also seems that most of the zombies in America don't even care anymore.

1:13:35 This bill is a simple bill. This is a House bill that extends, reauthorizes the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act called the FISA Amendment Section 702 It reauthorizes it until for five years until December 31st 2017 That is all it does That's all it does, just don't pay no attention. It doesn't do anything really. Without Senate action these authorities to collect intelligence expire in four days that's the reason it's the House bill before us and that's the reason why I urge this body to vote NO on all amendments send this reauthorization

1:14:26 Well, it goes right to the president if we accept the House bill and get it signed. If he goes past the first, the program comes down. The program is interrupted. So this is important. It has a support of the director of national security Jim Clapper the Attorney General Eric Holder and other national security officials who have made clear as to the importance of this. And at this time, following my remarks I'd like to enter letters into the record from all of the administration essentially saying that this is our highest intelligence authorization." Right...and uh...of course after a whole buncha back-and-forth

1:15:13 uh... the douchebags that just uh... passed out and uh... king obama shall be signed at the man who actually campaigned against FISA and accused Bush of being a total dictator with the warrantless wiretaps. Now it all comes into view, although not covered by the complicit mainstream media that King Obama is just Bush... he's not even Bush Light! He is Bush Double Down It's unbelievable. Push on steroids, and not to mention his 333 drone strikes in 2012 That's not my number that's an official number 333 drone strikes so shameful shameful I tell you and Feinstein I believe was a Democrat am i correct?

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Gun Control and the Shaming of Gun Owners

Following mass shootings, the hosts discuss the "shaming" of gun owners through tactics like interactive maps of permit holders. They compare the American situation to Australia's gun buyback and debate whether social engineering will eventually lead to a gun-free America.

gun control· second amendment· nra· australia· interactive map

1:18:38 Another thing that took place in 2012, that seems to have died out especially with all these gun shootings is the Doomsday Prepper show. It started off with a bang and I think it's kind of fallen by the wayside but you get this particular kind of clip that we pull from these shows. This was back in January. Becky becomes a sniper But in a government takeover, Becky believes she will need offensive as well as defensive weapons. So if necessary she can preemptively eliminate her threat without being detected Today with Bob's expertise She is training with the bolt-action sniper rifle outfitted with the telescopic lens that guarantees optimal precision from up to 1,000 yards away

1:19:25 I'm taking sniper training because then i could keep people as far away from me as they needed to. This hand goes underneath, you support it make a fist pull it tight into your shoulder You want me to have it dead center vertically right? Today Becky's bullseye is 200 yards the equivalent of two football fields. You hit it! Did I? Yes Sweet Yeah, yeah. Let me guess has the show not gotten picked up for renewal? Is this an educated guess here? This is like... Sweet! It's very interesting how

1:20:08 From afar, I have no idea what's really taking place but a lot of people are comparing this to exactly the way it went down in Australia when they had a mass killing shooting and then all of the Australian human resources kind of gladly gave up all their weaponry. And that... The only way you can really get this... We're seeing all these shows being cancelled movie premieres not happening and that it really is, there really is a shaming taking place. And of course the only way to get people to give up their guns is not the government telling you too but to have people tricked basically into doing it and peer pressure

1:20:57 I don't know. It seems to have kind of worked in Australia Do you think that could happen in the United States John from where you're sitting and what your scene? No, I think we've been pretty much just this Second Amendment thing doesn't exist in Australia Mm-hmm And right we have a couple propagandistic operations and National Gun Association There's a couple other ones national you mean National Rifle Association or not. Sorry national rifle I like that one. We should start that. The NGA, the National Rivalry, but they've done a job on and there's a certain we have a certain kind of reverse logic that we've established in this country where because when they ran all those

1:21:41 They had a, you can go on the internet and there's an interactive map from one of the newspapers I guess it was in Jersey somewhere Westchester County. And it shows every gun permit that was ever issued is got to get you can click on it and see who the person is. Again this what you just said shaming them oh he has a gun! The counter argument is like they're going to take people came in as and they comment on it they said Oh well now we know who the robbers won't go rob Right. And a logic appears that didn't seem to appear in Australia, which is oh Oh We know where the guns are That means that everyone else doesn't have a gun or the ones that are gonna get burglarized right? Right would encourage the sales of more guns obviously and and it was I were the thing about the schools Well you take all the guns out of the school. So there's no guards or anything You're just leaving them as sitting ducks we have the assume in this country that everybody is armed and they're gonna shoot somebody if they're not armed yeah

1:22:44 And of course nobody wants to bring up the Texas crime statistics. Which is extremely low! Yes, and why is that do you think? Because everyone's really nice to each other this is the first thing we noticed when we visited Austin. Austin by the way which I don't know the exact statistics but I'm pretty sure the majority of Austonites voted for Obama yet everyone is armed which is why everyone so nice this what I have to keep explaining people over here You know, they say really that's crazy. So yeah maybe Maybe it's crazy but it does seem to work everyone's nice I don't have to worry about my house getting broken into I don't have to worry about getting carjacked and you know Of course miss Mickey's passenger side door won't open anyway But there's no did you just had people aren't doing that kind of thing? That's the end what there was something else that

1:23:40 In San Antonio, you know there was a... Did you hear about this? Of course actually didn't hear about it. Because some guy was pissed at his girlfriend and he went into a restaurant and I don't know if he killed her but shot at her And then everyone ran out into movie theater next door and then he went in there to go shoot people and then off-duty cop with her personal gun, pulled it out and shot him and stopped him from shooting anybody. And of course that story got zero legs in mainstream media because it kind of doesn't fit with the propaganda that's going on right now It's hard though! It's hard for the rest of the world... ...and also a lot of Americans to just really believe that is just the way it works

1:24:34 Well, you know I don't think that was the case some years ago. I think it's hard nowadays people because they've been you know we get the crap...I mean it's like I mentioned this on the show some few weeks back about a guy who was in the rifle club in high school You know, it was a shooting club and they would go out and get different rivals and go shooting at targets. I mean there are still target shooting in the Olympics for example where all the countries participate. Yeah with skis you ski first then shoot There's a that too. That's a different one, but they have their stationary. That's my favorite I like that one where they see you shooting But you've tried to put one of those in the high school in California a gun club and they would go crazy You know it's every but it's beyond that John is something else It's it's the idea so of course thing we have balance in the world

1:25:26 On the global stage where everyone has missiles and we have you know nuclear warheads And you know even the Netherlands, you know peace-loving Netherlands were people get machine gun in Amsterdam But it's peace loving Netherlands and they've got to you know Some Patriot missile batteries and like oh well just move them over to Turkey You know just to show the power of NATO in front of Syria. So on this on this country scale It's used all the time and everyone knows about it And I guess it kind of, you know... You have this balance of power or whatever it's supposed to be. At least that's accepted is generally accepted. Deterrence? Yeah! It's generally accepted by people but then when it comes down to a citizenry People just really... Something has happened. It has really been this way in America for 200 years

1:26:19 But it really changed and I guess, I think that you keep working on people long enough. You keep pounding it in long enough that at some point and it probably won't be now but maybe 30 40 50 years into the future. I can see in America without guns! I can see it happening because people are just mind-controlled into believing that this other way is better even though on a global scale that's not how the world works Well, the same people would tell you well we need to do unilateral disarmament. Right So I mean it's not like they're inconsistent with their thinking but the fact that anybody buys into it if you look at the reality of the situation We're not one world government maybe...I mean they'd like that to happen? I don't see it personally. I think culturally there is too much diversity proves that you can't do it

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Chardon High School Shooting Retrospective

The hosts revisit the Chardon High School shooting from early 2012, which they feel has been forgotten by the media. They discuss the details of the event and why it didn't gain the same "legs" as other tragedies, potentially due to the type of weapon used.

chardon· ohio· school shooting· 2012· media coverage

1:27:15 But I don't know, it's just very semi-depressing to watch this deteriorate. I think it is a deteriorating situation and in fact they got one more clip since we're on that topic. Tell me if you remember any of this? Play Charon near Cleveland. This happened in January or February. From ABC News, this is ABC World News with Diane Sawyer Good evening tonight we add another name to that searing list that begins with Columbine and Virginia Tech. It is the small town of Chardon, Ohio 5,000 people who live right outside Cleveland known for their serenity and maple syrup until today No I don't remember this at all what happened? Is a school shooting? No

1:28:01 Yeah, how many kids? How soon you forget! Well yeah I mean there must have been a sex tape that came on after that from some celebrity. Of course of course we forget this...I don't even remember this at all especially not the maple syrup thing It's been taken out of the litany and not mentioned anymore because it only killed i think six people were shot and three died it was too small No, this was not good. It was the first school shooting of 2012 Really? Here it is Chardon High School shooting Ohio Hmm no I mean it's and we did talk about it I'm sure we did but I can't remember this at all. I just know when I was going through the clips I said what what they had to look it up hold on a second Did did the shooter kill himself? I don't remember the details at all

1:28:54 Let's see lane, lane. No no they caught him he was running for it he was running into the woods or something and they grabbed him. So this wasn't an MKUltra mind controlled shooter? This is... Right that why I didn't kill that many He was also using a 22 which is problematic Yeah, it wasn't getting any legs because he wasn't using an assault rifle good enough It was in a or old ar-15 that they had to sell get rid of by selling him off Somebody mentioned they went to a gun show and we talked about this on the last show Eric the shields theory that these are the old style AR 15s are being discontinued right? And they got a dump inventory especially Bush master, right

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Background Check Delays and Lincoln Movie Promotion

Reports indicate that background checks for gun purchases in Colorado have slowed from 23 minutes to seven days due to a surge in sales. Meanwhile, the hosts criticize the promotion of the movie *Lincoln* on Capitol Hill as a way to associate presidential power with current legislative battles.

background checks· colorado· gun sales· lincoln· steven spielberg

1:29:36 The guy goes to a gun show, he says the Bushmasters there's tons of them they're trying to get rid of. Interesting I got a clip here about a gun show and it was the end of the clip that kind of made me... I was like huh? Maybe it'll be an Ask John segment here listen to this Gun sales are surging following the school shooting in Newtown Connecticut two weeks ago That's a headline for you right there isn't it just like yep All going according to plan. More sales, we're good! Dumpin' those Bushmasters!" In Virginia this weekend gun show organizers expected the turnout to double over the November show. Virginia State Police say gun dealers are requesting a record number of background checks representing twice as many guns sales over last year in Colorado it took the Bureau of Investigation 23 minutes to do a background check in November now its seven days This is weird

1:30:31 So they're saying that because of the surge in sales, it used to take 23 minutes to do a background check. Now it's seven days? This doesn't make any sense to me! That's not...that's not a background check. That's a waiting period Yeah, you're right It's not a background check. Doesn't take 7 days to do a background check Oh that was the news It takes seven days to wait for a background check Well she literally just said In November it took 23 minutes now. It takes seven days because of the surge in sales, which Something now that there she should That's exactly what she said a day to do a background check instead of seven days to get a background check I mean this is just lousy reporting again. I don't know let me hear it again

1:31:19 Hold on. Investigation 23 minutes... Hold on, let me just roll it back just a little bit. Here we go. Background checks representing twice as many gun sales over last year in Colorado it took the Bureau of investigation 23 minutes to do a background check in November now its seven days It's pretty clear to me. Hmm? Clear to you what?! That is now taking 7 days instead of 23 minutes Yeah, well that's true but it's a wait I think you're right. It's a waiting list. Hmm yeah we'll get to when we can. How long does it actually take? Say there is no waiting list how long does it take to do a background check

1:32:02 23 minutes has got to be it or less. I mean, it shouldn't even... It's just because I think what you say is type something in and you look at it. Okay? Yeah. It's like social security number name. Look at what comes back then you're done that's it. You've got any tickets, you've been beating your wife, you have any straining orders be Now now the film celebrates presidential power and crafty legislative strategy And the president may need the wisdom of Lincoln for his latest legislative battle gun control The wisdom of Lincoln I tell you when is the guy who got shot? Wisdom of Lincoln for was Lincoln such a crafty legislator. Did I miss something?

1:33:05 I have no idea what they're talking about. Well, they're talking about Lincoln was such it well first of all They try to associate him with Obama somehow exactly exactly That he was like well for their promoting a movie regardless that's what's going on? Yeah It's a movie hello so you show it to everyone on the hill hey guys free movie and meet Steven Spielberg Oh does Spielberg show up? Hello Of course Of course, that's the extraordinary folks. See we're ordinary folks those are the... So do you think that Congress is above us or below us in the folk level? Is it are they so we're ordinary Are they extraordinary? I think there subhuman at this point Yeah exactly! Before we get to our little thank-you segment There was Ira Glass who

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Ira Glass and the Roman Mars Kickstarter

Ira Glass of *This American Life* recently highlighted the success of Roman Mars and his podcast *99% Invisible* on Kickstarter. The hosts view this as the mainstream media finally "waking up" to independent monetization models similar to their own value-for-value system.

ira glass· roman mars· kickstarter· 99% invisible· monetization

1:34:09 He works for the National Treasure NPR. That's funny, I almost had the same clip Oh really? I think so because Ira Glass yeah go on So he does This American Life which is a pretty popular program even amongst the youngins as a podcast and he did the commencement for I think was CUNY The Community University or what is it New York CUNY yeah me for the journalism students and he brought a basically in it kind of tweet not exactly our way But it seems like and John you I've been saying this that one day all these idiots there at the National Treasure the so-called public service television and radio who play commercials on

1:34:59 commercials, actual commercials with codes to go get your free goodies from GoDaddy or Carbonite or whatever. And the car show is car commercials. These aren't just underwriters or grants or anything. No these are actual commercials that one day they'll wake up and they'll go oh my god these no agenda guys you know they're like doing something really revolutionary and new in a real public service And they'll be able to just get by doing it. So Ira Glass is waking up, not of course there's no mention of us and of course it's really our value for value model but I thought it was interesting...I'll just play a little bit of this so you can hear how at least he is seeing that there are something changing in the media landscape and that I think we are leading that charge

1:35:49 And it was great actually and this year the buzz was all about this guy named Roman Mars. Have you ever heard of this guy named Roman Mars? No, what buzz! It's the Buzz. A lot of buzz about this guy. Roman had created this podcast called 99% Invisible about design he did it on its own. He had an audience that wasn't huge but good in tens of thousands And he decided, well let's see if this can be a business. Like let's see if I can make a living off of this and so he did the Kickstarter campaign and his goal was to raise $42,000 and his listeners gave him $170,000. I'm like whoa! Hello? Should we try that Kickstarter thing John? Yeah of course That sounds like the way to go

1:36:36 And that was just very new in our corner of the media world. Nobody had done that and very, very different from a couple of years ago or from decades ago when I started This American Life where we had to turn to foundations and write grants or get some bigger institution like radio station or network if you want to start something to be your funder and also in the past It was common to have the experience of you could do really good work and original work and there was no clear way to make a living off it. Like, there's no clear way to monetize it. And what Roman Mars showed us is that if you make something good, there's an environment now where you can invent a way to get money from it.

1:37:20 So, I don't know who this Roman Mars guy is and never heard of his show. And uh...I disagree with a lot of what i'm hearing but the idea that these guys are waking up and realizing that they on the wrong end in the wrong side of history kinda makes me happy. Kinda makes me happy because we clearly have an outstanding product That has gotta be that way Yeah, no. I think there's no doubt about it otherwise you wouldn't be able to hear That's right that's really now show me that on your 99 podcast

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Listener Notes and Relationship Dynamics

The hosts read more listener notes, including one from a long-time listener who tracked Adam Curry's evolution from the "Podfather" to a "cynical crackpot." Another note discusses the challenges of being in a relationship where partners hold opposing political views on Obama and libertarianism.

daily source code· podfather· vaccine denialism· 69· karma

1:38:15 Show me the harmonica show me that whistle thing guys got nothing where's that was a thing. Oh yeah, where is it? I'm spending all my time smashing ants because i've got an ant attack again while i'm doing the podcast again i thought this was taking care of It's gotten worse as I start smashing them. They've decided to turn on me. I can't describe the horror that i'm undergoing no, you don't have to describe it to me because Ms Mickey and I have witnessed the horror we know what it is! And are you naked at this point with the beaver hat on? Because that's really bad if you've got ants. I would normally be, because i like to podcast that way but... The beaver hat was stolen in New York City and I decided not to get any more beaver hats. Cause' you'd like the podcast naked with a beaver hat! Hey Hondo in the chat room blow me! Sorry

1:39:14 All right, Honda you're an idiot douche nozzle Steven Nelson We want to thank a few people including Stephen Nelson is there gonna be a night today at Wheat Ridge Colorado 116 13 this complete his knighthood. He wants just some milf baby karma Okay, milk baby car so that's hot new milk baby is that what he means? Yes? Baby okay, I guess so that's one hot milk, baby You've got karma You know, I'm getting concerned now because i can't find that little uh siren. I think the ants have taken it! They do that, you know they walk off with stuff. Sir Jason Stevens $111 11 cents from Parts Unknown Anonymous some parts unknown 100 bucks be quiet about the donation my wife thinks you guys are knuckleheads and does not believe you provide the best podcast in the universe oh really? John I'm coming back so loud now what did you move or change what did you do no i'm just sitting in the same spot impossible

1:40:16 I'm just telling you. So anyway, he says funny how oil and water can mix if the sex is good She voted for Obama And I voted libertarian. We totally disagree on TV as well as podcasts, the solution separate offices TVs and computers sweet what can i do to make her see the light short of applying the formula? Um...I think you should just divorce her that's what it sounds like to me. Well is it just says yes his wife but they don't if they don't have kids

1:40:52 I don't know if he's ever going to get her to be, you know... She is an Obama bot. To me it sounds like well, it's okay whatever she's voting for but I think your disagreeing on television, your disagreeing on podcasts basically they just get together once in a while and have angry sex? Is that all I'm seeing here? I do not this this is relationship my friend Well I would get as much sex as you can then figure out what to do Chris Ricketson in Ventura, California. $100 extra hundred for the total 200 credited to Chris Ricketson this week please put together with a jingle request from first the donation sorry for it being split up keep up the good work and then he sends another donation and please credit to Chris Rickinson the best zombie mitigation RV specialist in Gitmo proper as payment for working on my rig shut-up slave two to the head okay

1:41:55 You got it. Jeffrey Fitch in Windermere, Florida 7590 I don't have a note but he's is a knight Daniel Kepler Phoenix Arizona true 69 Oh Noid by the missing siren yeah Daniel Kepler, Phoenix Arizona 69 C is a why the same thing over again? Boring do it then flip. Please give it clippity-clop What to today what is he talking about boring no idea due to they had lone wolf for Vicky and Sammy 20 years too late The message is clear I

1:42:48 You've got karma. Ladies and gentlemen, that's entertainment. Hell yeah! Gregory Davies in Lawton Oklahoma 6969 G'dayn Dilligoff to you both from the Aussie loss in Oklahoma Last time John read my donation he did so with a redneck accent I'm an Aussie mate When I moved from Australia I was anti-gun since living here in the USA Oklahoma as matter of fact I become very gun neutral Now thanks to Piers Morgan stating that if the US doesn't change its gun laws, he will deport himself. I am now happily pro-gun! Keep hitting them in the mouth gentlemen, like a douchebag call out for penis moron with a two to the head and then a sign of karma. Can i just ask you do you understand diligaph? I just want to make sure... No Do I look like I give an F

1:43:46 You've got karma. You gotta be with the kids, man! You gotta be with the kids. Dilagaff. Hey, Dilagaff. Timothy Black Knight Timothy Chang in Brookline Massachusetts nuts 6969 by the way this is the last we didn't barely made it on to 6969 donating after checking my accounting on The No Agenda Nation realized that I'm already at 1168 67 I listen you guys from day one when i was about Food and other nonsense. I like to hear you guys talk, I listen to Adam's Daily Source Code from back in the day This phone is like way too loud Why don't you finish off the reading of this and then i'll go turn that off Oh okay Maybe it's uh that Russian hooker

1:44:29 Yeah, maybe. But I can't talk now because it's like... I got an echo. Hey! You used to listen to Adam Curry's Daily Source Code from back in the day? Witness his transformation from being the podfather pushing pod-safe music To the cynical crackpot media assassin extraordinaire Someone needs to put together a clip show that would track the evolution of Adam throughout the years It inspired me to become the crackpot guy I am today, where family and friends shun me for my vaccine denialism, Ron politics and cynicism of media coverage. Alas! All is not lost as I have a fantastic girlfriend who even though she doesn't listen to the show thinks that everything I say is rather logical and sensible." You must have a large penis

1:45:17 I'd thus dedicate this donation to her. Can I have the Spanish in the morning? She's Spanish followed by the 69 and 6 9 then it's too delicious to believe loyal producer of the best podcast in the universe So normally when John's reading that stuff, I cue at all. No, I'm good Yeah so let me see you've got the Yeah, here we go. It's almost too delicious to believe my friends He's a fan. That's the end of the 69-69, that's weird. Ryan Van... it was 3? What was it three? Yeah, that's almost it. I think we're almost done with this. Good. The record was 22. Ryan Van Tempe Arizona $56. It seems the comments from my latest donation got vitiated

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

No Agenda Moonshine and High-Proof Alcohol

John C. Dvorak discusses receiving a bottle of "No Agenda Moonshine," which is 180-proof alcohol. He warns that it is too strong to drink straight and explains the chemistry of using cane sugar to avoid producing toxic methanol during the distillation process.

moonshine· everclear· 180 proof· cane sugar· methanol

1:46:08 by the donation Stargate. I blame Harry Reid, needless to say i had a dry birthday in my sobriety I realized the central question was that I needed to double down. You know we don't that's central question thing is great good please accept another $56 dollars I'd like some celebrity moonshine to celebrate new by the way so we got the moonshine from our well you did I didn't get any moonshine yet it was it would be wouldn't be shipped at the Holland need to be export law yes thank you for showing is that it's a 180 so why do I have it if either way its beautifully package has got our logo and everything not your justices no agenda show moonshine quit as a white set such a one eighty proof vodka wow but I didn't quite read the note

1:46:56 And thank God I didn't drink it, I was just gonna do a classic wine test where you put in your mouth and you spit it out. Like an idiot because I didn't read the documentation! People, read your documentation! You warned me not to do that. What happened? Well have you ever had Everclear or had a shot of that or even put it in your mouth if you drink it you could die because it sucks all the moisture out of everything So you put it in your mouth and go, holy shit! And you blow it out and it's like... It just burns like hell. You gotta get a lot of water into your mouth as fast as you can or you'll burn yourself. So wait a minute. This is the product that has our brand name on it that is open source of course but actually kills people? Is this what you're saying? No I won't kill anyone. Everclear will kill you too. What does Everclear mean? Well Everclear is almost pure alcohol

1:47:54 sold as Everclear. It's made by the refining process and it's a, I think it's 180 proof 190 proof maybe or maybe 150 whatever it is too high but you can drink this so you can drink it or you can't drink it? You can drink it, not only that but its filtered five times and then charcoal filtered sounds awesome to me! This sounds really good very awesome but you have to mix it you could take a shot at this Oh, I see. And put it in some orange juice and you're in business! Oh, I see... You shouldn't be drinking it straight up is what you're saying? No no shots of 180 is not healthy. This was in the documentation He told me about it and I said but you know I didn't read it so this is well packaged and beautiful So hold on do you have some of this right now with you? Do you have any? I have a bottle Okay, why don't you spray some on the ants to see what happens

1:48:48 It'll kill them. Yes, this is what I'm saying. He says it could be used as paint thinner and can also be used as gasoline in an alcohol burning car. It's very powerful. Wait a minute, can't just throw it in the truck? But he also made from cane sugar. This is a little tip that's interesting because if he doesn't make it from grain no matter what he does... Because cane sugar will not produce methanol as one of the alcohol byproducts No, because there's no wood in it. That's what alcohol right? And so it's very very nicely done It was very I was really surprised how well done this one Can you do me a favor can you take a picture of the bottle and can you put it on The Noah gender community on Google Plus Oh yeah Would you please I mean I think people would really love to see you there now that we're over a thousand just post a picture You don't have anything I'll be coming

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Jack Reacher Movie and Mass Shooting Memes

A listener note suggests that the Tom Cruise movie *Jack Reacher* contains themes and memes highly relevant to current discussions on mass shootings. The film, shot in Pittsburgh, had several scenes removed or delayed following real-world gun violence events.

jack reacher· tom cruise· pittsburgh· mass shooting· memes

1:49:42 You heard it here first. He'll be coming round the mountain when she comes. All right finish up Ryan Van Meanwhile, it's a beer is on his uh-duh-duh-duh. Yeah, he said we just did him no he sent his heart and No He says we didn't finish him up, you just cut away. to ward off taxageddon for all the sh- citizens of Gitmo Nation regards Ryan. He's like, I want some karma! Gotta make sure we do the karma you can't just skip that. You've got... Karma. Y'know? It's like... Cause then what happens when we skip the karma then it's another email and he's like, you didn't give me karma and I gotta forward that to Buzzkill Jr. and y'know... Candice Hart in Westville New Jersey a new donor it looks like 5555 donations A birthday present for my boyfriend Nicosi

1:50:44 Been a long time boner, first-time donor. Would love for a de-douching for him on his 25th birthday and a double shot at karma as we head into 2013 home for new jobs in a cross country move from Jersey to a destination yet to be named stay out of California go move the Texas yeah thanks so much for all you do in keeping us slaves informed but also love a shut up slave for me because that's my favorite one You've been de-douche'd. You've got karma. And by the way, Candace I think that being from Jersey myself you will find Austin Texas very amenable and we'll actually let you in. Jeffrey Anderson in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 55

1:51:30 ITM John and Adam if those are indeed still your names. I have to confess that money has been tight, and i've been a complete douche dingler for not donating since the springtime! I would like a re-douched and then promptly de-douched now that business is done...I would like to chime in about the recently released movie Jack Reacher. Oh this is the Tom Cruise movie? They took a bunch of scenes out of it because of the gun shooting yeah I saw it because it was filmed here in Pittsburgh and didn't expect much however The movie revolves around a mass shooting and the central plot evolves into one of John's favorite theories when it comes to mass shootings. There are a lot of interesting memes tossed into the movie, and the timing of this release is highly suspicious. All in all not bad two hours especially in light of current events

1:52:15 Finally, I'd like to request a drone again naturally 999 karma to ensure us safe and healthy 2013 for myself friends and family John and Adam And their families in all the Knights and dames and producers in the gitmo verse continued success of the best podcasting universe on the road to 500 You've got karma hey, I like that combo Not bad. That's a very musical combo, very nice. Jeffrey Anderson in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania I'm sorry that was Jeffrey. The podcast for peace and Alamo 5150 Happy New Year wishes us and finally Daniel Smith in Christchurch $50.12 and that will conclude our donation segment for show 474 Curiously Nobody Took Advantage of the Palindrome but uh...I think we did fine today but we're starting a new year let's hope it is better than last year

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Year-End Knighting Ceremony and Ring Deadline

The hosts conduct the final knighting ceremony of 2012, inducting several new Knights and Dames into the No Agenda Roundtable. They remind listeners that the opportunity to receive a physical ring for knighthood is ending as they transition to a pin-based system.

knighting· rings· roundtable· 2012· mimi

1:53:12 What the hell was that? And I keep kicking douche nozzle out of the chat room. You know, we start our donation segment which is always filled with fantastic content right? Did we not just have an entire conversation about The Moonshine and so douche dooshnozzle's in the chat room like, oh time...I'm gonna go away for a bathroom! No content for the next 30 minutes! So i kicked him out Good right and then so we're keeping them out can't come back until after the segment stay away, right? Hey you found it. I love it Please this is the last show of 2012 make 2013 just as good so we can keep just getting by Dvorak org slash and

1:54:12 I'm so much in love with you Turns 7 today, so happy birthday Lizzie on behalf of all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show and of course your daddy Michael Ross and Candace Hart says happy birthday to her boyfriend Nicosi he turns 25 today. Happy Birthday! The last time in 2012 Isn't that cool that Lizzie turned seven today? Thought you that's good. Yeah, hopefully she can do what maybe give us one more year of great clips Yeah, cuz you know eventually the voice will change he's not gonna sound like yeah I pity the boy that becomes her first boyfriend. I really do it's sad It's just gonna be really really sad Oh

1:55:08 So let me just make sure we have I'm missing. Yeah, so we there were a couple of actually to a knight in a dame Who we messed up on? So we'll have a black Dame Samantha Esposito and a black Knight Scott Morgan today in the ceremony And I don't think I can actually fit everybody into the no agenda night theme But I'll give it a try In fact, why don't I just give you the list right now and then i'll do the knighting during the theme. So we are going to knight Doug Owens Thomas Ward Patrick Vaughn Donald... Philip Chuck Scott William Tim Thomas Baddock so we have two Thomas's this is gonna be a tough one but think yeah would just have to do Sir Thomas once or Thomas too or just Sir Thomas twice

1:56:02 Cloud Sigma AG, Bernie Adema, Sean McGrath, Stefan Nelson, Jeffrey Fitch Nick Wallace. And then as I said Scott Morgan will be a Black Knight and Samantha Esposito will be a Black Dame so if you can get it we need extra...we need the big sword for this one John if you can... Yep! Okay got it here we go. pronounce these sir Doug sir Thomas sir Patrick sir Donald sir William Sir Tim sir Thomas sir cloud sigma sir Bernie Adama sir Sean sir Stefan sir Jeffrey sir Nick sir black knight Scott and day Black Knight Samantha all nights and David the knowage in a roundtable come on

1:56:55 Come on down for your hookers and blow, your rent boys in Chardonnay. Your hot pants and booze, you wenches and beer, you Rubinettes women in rosea, geishas and sake vodka and vanilla sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead thank you for rounding out the year as our final Knights who will receive rings and Dame of course And we look forward to your continued support We know that there's one thing we can always count on and that is the support Of The Knights of the Noahgender Roundtable it was a great group You can go to noageneration.com, there you can see the map where all of the dames and knights are located Some of them I think are actually hams We really appreciate what you have done for keeping The Value Model alive and allowing us to continue unfettered analysis And deconstruction of the media

1:57:44 Unfettered, really. You have no idea how important that is. Well actually you do because you see the result is a program twice a week with the minimum of two and half hours So I want to mention that we still have a couple of days left on the end of the year so you can still donate and get the ring. And we'll let that go until the next show, somebody came in this morning and they were worried sick but they will get a ring and it wil be mentioned on Thursday. Oh yes, I agree. That's the 2nd January birthday is that it? Yeah, pretty much. I mean you know there are people that are on the no agenda layaway plan for knighthood and we put rings aside for them so it'll be okay. And douche nozzle? Mimi says she's gonna keep sending out rings whether we like it or not if the size is available. We're running out of a lot of them. Okay and douche nozzle can come back in now. You know we have to give douche nozzle a little time off. Anybody who calls themselves douche nozzle is an idiot

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

US Troop Deployment to Central African Republic

President Obama authorized the deployment of 50 troops to Chad to assist with evacuations from the Central African Republic. The hosts speculate that this military movement is actually related to protecting oil pipeline interests connecting Sudan to the Atlantic coast.

central african republic· chad· sudan· oil pipeline· cameroon

1:58:48 This report came in and I don't have really analysis, but I think we should take a look or you keep our eyes open for what's happening here Beyond the Northwest US troops have been deployed to Africa about 50 troops are in Chad right now To help evacuate Americans from the neighboring country the Central African Republic President Obama authorized that move because of security concerns. Rebels have seized several towns in the Central African Republic and are advancing on the capital city The evacuation comes three months after the attack on a US consulate in Benghazi, Libya Three people including the U.S ambassador were killed So I'm thinking that... Four people were killed Oh interesting Good catch! I didn't hear that one It was in total... well

1:59:33 Know what he said did he say three people including the ambassador or three? No, no Really? He said three people to see the evacuation comes three months after the attack on a US consulate in Benghazi Libya Three people including the u.s.. Ambassador Jill That's incorrect or who knows who knows Yeah, who knows who knows um I What I'm thinking is if you look at the map, because we've never really had any news reports on the Central African Republic. And what kind of name is that for a country by the way? It's a crappy name but it is the name of a country in Africa C-A-R We've got Sudan to the right

2:00:19 Of course, Sudan is where all the... you've got a lot of oil there. I'm thinking this may be and might be a pipeline thing because they want to move the oil to the coast on the west so if there is something going on I'd say look for Cameroon to be in the news next and I'd like that to be put in the book if you don't mind. Okay hold on a second. Cameroon! I think we're gonna see Cameroon in the news next it's just a hunch who knows what Who really knows what's gonna happen in this case, but I have a feeling that Cameroon may be Something may be happening and We are now officially now entering second half of show So well, what does that say? What did he say it says like an half for the show now entering second half of show There's another one to Now every second half of soul

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Health and SEAL Team Suicide Theory

The hosts discuss the reported suicide of Navy SEAL Commander Job W. Price. They explore a theory that Price may have died in a secret plane crash involving Hillary Clinton, suggesting her "concussion" was a cover story for injuries sustained in the accident.

hillary clinton· job w. price· seal team 4· c-12 huron· concussion

2:01:25 Well at least the sound effect is right. Something, there you go. Plays into something a report that came out earlier in the week that we didn't get to it was which actually was sent to me by couple of our Afghanistan buddies saying hey this is weird this is weird because I'll play the report and then tell you why its weird and then will find out what how does ties into Hillary

2:02:08 Don very sad news this holiday weekend for US Navy SEALs the Navy is now investigating the death in Afghanistan of one if it's most senior deployed seal officers as an apparent suicide a US military official tells CNN Navy commander Joe W Price 42 years old died could you could you got to turn something down because the report is coming back double and Or turn your microphone away or do something. No, I moved it's where I'm blocking it. On December 22nd while serving as the commanding officer of SEAL Team 4 a group of more than two dozen commandos conducting combat operations in the southern region of the country now while the death remains under formal investigation that U.S military official who is directly familiar with the event said the family has been notified of the death

2:03:03 and has also been notified it is being investigated as an apparent suicide. There is no indication at this time that Commander Price was involved in any military-related investigations or any controversies, the officials said Okay, so what's the couple things going on with this first of all he replaced a commander who in 2009 I believe who was kicked out for No longer being able to handle his command position. You know you've heard this kind of term before like no longer fit to hold command So a lot of people find it very strange that this guy is

2:03:41 under these circumstances now that he commits suicide. Here's the crazy report, the report is and I just didn't have the time to go back and make the timeline but this suicide report came out not long after Hillary Clinton took ill or at least she had these so-called concussion And the report that is now out there, and this is a little bit second half of the show stuff. Is that the C12 that Hillary was on coming back from Iraq, she's been traveling all over the world it included Job W Price, it crashed

2:04:27 This is a weird one, but this is trickling in. That it crashed the commander of the SEAL team was killed but that Hillary was actually injured And that she was, reportedly concussion but she also was injured enough that she was bleeding and then that is what is really going on with her because of some quote extreme turbulence. But this C12 crashed and that is why she's been out of commission and that is why this guy is dead which is now apparently being covered up as a suicide so I don't have the timeline, I don't have the full analysis. It came out just before we started this show.

2:05:13 You're telling me that there was a plane wreck with Hillary and this guy on it. The wreck, Hillary is horribly injured or not horribly but enough so that she they came up with this cock-and-bull story about the uh about this concussion that she slipped in the bathroom whatever it was something dumb yeah and here's the only thing I don't like is that can't they come up with something else besides the guy suicided? Well, I think it's this there so this is wait a minute. Hold on is it just so they can save on their Death benefits for the widow? I don't know about seriously I think the I think the whole reason maybe she was flying somewhere where she shouldn't have been III Don't think it's typical that she flies on a c-12 Maybe it is I don't know

2:06:04 They may have been on some mission that was unscheduled, that they had some kind of other covert reasoning behind it. That wasn't a C-12? Not a C-17? No, C-12 Huron according to this report. A Huron one of these little... Yeah that makes sense! That'd be a jet or not a jet but a prop she'd be on right It may have been one of these oil missions, there could've been other people on who weren't supposed to be on it. This is what I don't know but I did find it kind of interesting particularly because so many people contacted me from overseas saying wow we do not believe this guy killed himself

2:06:43 Because you know, there's knowledge there on the ground. We got a lot of people in sandy places who listen to the show and Who question a lot of what's been going on recently certainly with people in high places resigning Going away by the way nothing more on Petraeus That's just off-the-radar So, you know so she probably had a real stomach problem. You know could have been bleeding internal bleeding and she's probably had a real concussion for real Yeah if you're in a plane wreck yeah luckily she didn't get killed well as it were no, so that's a beachcraft this is essentially the super king yes King Air the Super Kid the Big King air it's a tricking turbo prop right? Yeah

2:07:36 Which is fast, right? Oh it goes very fast. Yeah it's a very nice airplane so... Anyway you know that's a good one! That's the winner It's a winner of what?! The day show No no no It has new information for everybody we never thought about this and then obviously never gonna get reported Does the mystery is why this guy killed himself or why they designated in killing himself? It's just because well, they were doing there if if this is true Then they were doing something where they were in some place where they shouldn't have been Otherwise, there's no reason to clear that up to cover that up at all. No reason whatsoever So yeah, no, they were obviously it would people start looking into it and then they'd find out something screwy but I am going to Be looking at it for sure

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Federal Register Report and Medical Device Scams

John C. Dvorak introduces a new segment reviewing the Federal Register. He questions the proliferation of automated external defibrillators (AEDs) in schools as a potential medical device scam and notes FEMA grants for "mass casualty incidents" and militarized police equipment.

federal register· defibrillators· fema· mass casualty· swat

2:08:27 looking in to see what I can find out. So, I think I have a kind of new segment that I'd like to do which is a quick overview of the Federal Register. We're going to call it the Federal Register Report... That's not what I wanted to call it. I'm sorry! I have the Federal Register but then I have a report of new legislation we need a snappy name for it Something other than new legislation report. Wait a minute, hold on a second! What? So you gave us the big intro and you got a new idea and now you're changing it in the middle of it... Yeah I screwed up. Well I'm confused here The idea is that I have a new feed that I found okay And there's all these bills that get introduced

2:09:23 And no one ever talks about him until you know Until they're like kind of getting voted on or maybe the in committee or getting it coming out of committee Well, there's a lot of things that happen in this leg. A lot of legislation goes nowhere All right So what brings me which brings me so I can interrupt here Brings me to a clip from early in the year Which I think fits right into this and you might even use it as your as your as your my jingle my soundstage your jingle classic congressional vote On this vote, the yeas are zero and the nays are 414. The amendment is not adopted

2:10:09 What was that from? Now, by the way if you remember that clip. I like that. It was zero to four hundred something the amendments are adopted apparently the guy who offered the amendment Screw it! I don't want to be...I don't wanna look stupid amongst everyone else like i'm the only guy who voted for it Right okay so here um here are some new his new legislation that is being entered into the record. And I'm just going to track these things as they come in, and I just want you to know because this is what your government's looking at. So there's a new house resolution and I've always wondered about this. This is to establish a grant program, ie money for automated external defibrillators in schools. And I've always wondered about this because I see these things at airports, all over the place

2:11:06 Do we know of anyone real, I mean of any substantial number of people who have been saved or created by these defibrillators that are everywhere apparently? Or is this just some giant medical device scam that is just continuing. Does this really happen that we need to have defibrillator everywhere in public spaces when did the start? I don't know Not to mention it, maybe it gets used once. It must be used once in a while. Yeah but there's a lot of them and now we need them in schools? What like kids are getting heart attacks? Well that doesn't make any sense but a teacher could! Yeah but...it seems like a big expense How many people really get like oh! And how many people can actually use it Can you imagine some teacher keeling over and then one of the kids grabbing this thing and putting on her head? And then drilling their brain I mean come on

2:12:03 But when I read this, I'm thinking about it. Why do they have these everywhere? I've seen them at airports and it's like...I've never really heard of what is this honey do I have to look at this right now? I can't- I'm doing a show and you want me to read your Facebook? Then go away! What is this?! Are you nuts!? Another Facebook addict She's like putting something in front of her that she likes. I don't care the shows been going on too long Look at my Facebook page Exactly. Honey, just could you please... I liked something! I clicked the like button! Second bill to authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security acting through the administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency

2:12:52 to make grants to state and local governments, to assist in preparing for and responding to mass casualty incidents. How about that? What are they expecting? No I don't know it's not about expecting anything it's about giving money No, it's just they're throwing money away. This is why the economy is in the tank. Exactly. They're just throwing money... It's like let me tell you something so I got my local police department here nice little town and there's I go that one day to all the cop cars all new cop cars are big ones the big giant covers with a big giant battering rams on them and new light bars and they've got like 12 of them

2:13:39 Out of the blue and it's like and they make them stay there in the olden days the police department They have a just a good cop car that did the job. I mean, there's no don't go on high-speed chases or ram anything These are all SWAT team like cars But they used to take the cars home And then they get in the car and right you had two way The government work should be done I big advocate of this you take the car home It's not like an old 1920s movie where they, you gotta start downtown and then all these cars come out of the garage. You know one after the other? The black and whites! That's not what happens anymore we don't do it that way. The black and whites... Yeah the black and white here they come this is just money money money money it's unbelievable Well there's more where that came from now here's one I thought was actually interesting Now this goes right along with uh the mental health issue that we clearly have in America

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Russian Trade Relations and WTO Admission

President Obama issued a proclamation extending normal trade relations to the Russian Federation following its admission to the World Trade Organization. Dvorak notes that this opens the U.S. market to Russian products, including high-quality vacuum tubes for audio equipment.

russia· wto· trade act· barack obama· tube amps

2:14:31 and what we need more pharmaceutical drugs for, to require the dis- this is HR 6712. To require the disclosure to parents of information regarding mental illness treatment for their children under the age of 26." That's clearly related to gun culture I'm sure Oh yeah, the kid... our child has asked if he could get a .22 rifle and we're concerned that this may lead to bigger weaponry. Alright now here's one from the Federal Register and this kind of surprised me Did you know? Well no, you didn't know So Russia has been admitted to the World Trade Organization This happened in August

2:15:28 Yeah, we talked about it. So now in our president in the has proclaimed as in the federal as reported in the Federal Register a Proclamation that you have not seen this on the news anywhere I guarantee you The Russian Federation has been found to be in full compliance with the freedom of immigration requirements under title 4 of the Trade Act blah blah blah blah blah blah and Therefore, pursuant to Section 102A public law blah blah should no longer apply to the Russian Federation. Essentially I therefore Barack Obama President United States by virtue of the authority vested in me blah blah blah proclaim that non-discriminatory treatment as i.e normal trade relations treatment shall be extended to the products of the Russian Federation which shall no longer be subject to Chapter 1 Title 4 of the 1974 Act." So we have apparently

2:16:24 Without much to do have just opened up the entire United States to all Russian products. Oh, that's sweet We but this is I find this highly interesting Maybe they make maybe maybe this was what member when he had that open mic thing When he was talking to Medvedev and he said hey man, I'll have more flexibility after I'm elected Maybe this is it who knows what we're gonna have now Who knows? Well, right. I know what we should have why oh Russian electronic gear using tubes. They still make tube amps, I believe and they still make tubes! Most of the tubes you have in an old tube set or modern tube amplifier like Audio Research

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Mary Kennedy Death and Media Silence

The hosts look back at the death of Mary Kennedy, the estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who was found dead in an apparent suicide. They remark on how quickly the story disappeared from the news cycle despite the high-profile nature of the Kennedy family.

mary kennedy· robert f. kennedy jr· suicide· kennedy family· 2012

2:17:11 You you load them up with Russian tubes And that concludes our tracking the bullcrap segment The A's are zero and the nays are 414 the amendment is not adopted. There you go I think we can make that a jingle. I think we can work that out Oh, maybe I got other stuff to find Going back to the, there's another story. Looking back on these old clips this is the first quarter of 2012 by the way I ran into a lot of stories that we didn't... The problem that the news media has and were not gonna you don't really have the problem because we have the red book but we miss out on a lot of the... We still even drop certain follow-ups whatever happened remember this one Mary Kennedy

2:18:01 Yes, no of course I remember. Robert F Kennedy Jr.'s estranged wife Mary has been found dead at her home in New York State the cause of her death is unknown Her former husband is the nephew of President John F Kennedy and son of Senator Robert F Kennedy who were both assassinated In the 1960's our Washington correspondent Jonathan Blake explains what's known about the death Well, police in Bedford New York which is a few hours drive north of New York City have said that a body was found at home belonging to Robert F. Kennedy Jr and his former wife Mary earlier this afternoon they've not confirmed reports that it was Mary Kennedy and they have not confirmed

2:18:44 or denied reports that the body was found in an apparent suicide and one news organization, ABC News here in the United States reporting that Mary Kennedy was found hanged. Yeah I remember that well you know what's happened here is another woman killed near the Kennedys no investigation like pffft! What else is new? This happens every decade Another story that got my attention from which is another one at this one talk about something and falling off the map it became a big meme with a bunch of bull crap hits on YouTube that we all believe were done by robots or the thing there's never a big deal then it ended in the most bizarre way, which is the Kony dude running around berserk and naked

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Kony 2012 Viral Video and YouTube Fraud

The hosts revisit the "Kony 2012" phenomenon and the subsequent public breakdown of its creator, Jason Russell. They link the "viral" success of the video to recent reports of YouTube penalizing major music labels for using bots to generate hundreds of millions of fake views.

kony 2012· jason russell· invisible children· youtube· fake hits

2:19:34 The man behind the popular online video calling for the arrest of Ugandan rebel leader Joseph Kony has been detained and taken to hospital in the US. Jason Russell and his charity Invisible Children made the film, Kony 2012. Witnesses say he was seen naked and screaming at drivers in San Diego in California His group says that controversy surrounding the video has taken an emotional toll on Russell Several residents in the neighborhood were very concerned about a male that they described as white male in his late 20s, that was acting strangely. There were various stages of undress that were described you know he was wearing underwear that it was naked and kind of thing but he was running into the roadway that he was interfering with traffic screaming and that kinda thing officers responded to the welfare check did contact the man and I he was no problem for the police department however during the evaluation with him we did learn that we probably

2:20:31 needed to take care of him so the officers detained him and transported him to a local medical facility for further evaluation and treatment. Yeah, remember he was jerking off on the in the intersection? That was fantastic! And it does fit in with some news that came out this week YouTube John I don't know if you caught this has essentially penalized the music business and removed hundreds of millions of hits from their YouTube videos for a lot of their artists because they were all bogative. Hello?

2:21:11 I'm here. Yeah, so it's not you're going to a clip no So no, so I'm saying that this Kony thing the first thing we said was oh That's bogus all those hits and of course what happens is yeah The story started coming remember there was like a weekend if everyone say oh my god It's viral in some viral sensation Then of course it really started to get hits because people were like, oh let's check this thing out. But yeah it was totally gamed and we're kind of seeing the proof now that YouTube is now going back and penalizing people for fake hits. Oh good! It's about time. Hundreds of millions of hits but I would love to go... We should figure out what happened with that guy

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

The New Jim Crow and Prison Labor

The hosts discuss Michelle Alexander's book *The New Jim Crow*, which argues that the U.S. criminal justice system functions as a racial caste system. They highlight the disenfranchisement of black men and the use of low-wage prison labor by American corporations.

michelle alexander· jim crow· disenfranchisement· prison labor· human rights

2:21:53 the call you know here's a thing you know you did all these at this time of year all these news networks have always retrospectives they won't bring any of this stuff up and i got about mary kennedy being hanged issue that is not about the cony it phenomenon this year do not going to do with any of this stuff or there's fresh i gotta talk about that school in cleveland or the cleveland area uh... it just amazing to me and the one story of course if they never bring out which is the one that was it was Rob, it gets brought up only by Democracy Now! and the clip of it...and we bring this up constantly but the clip that you want to play is Jim Crow Lives. Okay? Today there are more African Americans under correctional control whether in prison or jail on probation or on parole than there were enslaved in 1850

2:22:41 And more African-American men are disenfranchised now because of felon disenfranchisement laws than in 1870. A legal scholar and civil rights advocate, Michelle Alexander has argued in her recent book that although Jim Crow laws have been eliminated the racial caste system it set up remains intact It's simply been redesigned and now racial control functions through the criminal justice system You know, when people are released from prison and have a criminal record they're discriminated against for the rest of their life in employment. For the rest of their lives I got to check that box on employment applications knowing that application is likely going straight to the trash sometimes not even convicted you say you were arrested yes absolutely and in public housing you can be barred from public housing just based on an arrest

2:23:29 arrest. You don't even have to be convicted people returning home from prison want to return to their children or their families, their families risk eviction just by allowing um their loved ones to come home to them under federal law you're deemed ineligible for food stamps for the rest of your life if you've been convicted of a drug felony. Now fortunately many states have now opted out or the federal ban on food stamps for drug offenders but it's still the case that thousands of people can't even get food, food stamps because they were once caught with drugs." That's right! Why should we mention that? The only people who mentioned are the Chinese and Russia

2:24:10 who say that we are huge human rights offenders and then you know of course everyone goes oh oh you stupid ruskies, oh you chiners don't say that about us. Well, the Chinese do have a point because we call them, yo they're running prison camps and labor camp. And the numbers don't bear it out. We are the ones with the prison camps and we're the ones that have federal companies or companies with the name Federal in them that buy prisoners to work for 10 cents an hour You telling me Federal Express has prisoners? No not... maybe Let me do it before you, because I know you want to a few more of these to round out the year and I think that's a good idea. Let me give you just a couple reports here from Euro land where things are not going well as you know

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Greek Economic Crisis and Brothel Sponsorship

As the economic crisis in Greece continues, the "Lagarde List" of potential tax evaders remains a major political scandal. Meanwhile, a local Greek soccer team has resorted to being sponsored by a brothel called "Villa Erotica" to stay financially afloat.

greece· lagarde list· bailout· brothel· villa erotica

2:25:00 The Lagarde's list, which is also I would say not really covered well in the United States at all is still on fire there in Greece. Politicians from a number of parties are calling for the law that protects ministers increase from prosecution not to apply to former finance minister George Papakonstantinou The 51-year old, who negotiated the country's bailout in 2010 is accused of removing the names of three of his relatives from the so called Lagarde list. How awesome was it going there?

2:25:35 I mean those guys, man they were like you know it's like three of his family members all called you know Constantinou proper you whatever and just take them off the list ah fantastic. What's great now though is there isn't kind of an alternative economy starting to crop up in Greece as happens people are survivors And since they can't afford heating oil anymore... So they're just burning wood now.

2:26:16 People are burning wood in their houses and it's causing like this smoke over the house. What, they're just putting up a fire in the middle of the living room? I guess they must have something but you know they're cold! They're cold over here so there's other just burning wood but the little soccer teams have resorted to a new form of sponsorship which is quite innovative The beautiful game has a colorful new backer. In tough times, who else to turn to but the local brothel? An unconventional sponsor, but Villa Erotica has kept the team on the pitch. For matches, the players must tone down with neutral shirts. The coach though says football is full of much shadiest sponsors.

2:27:06 So they've got the local brothel sponsoring the local soccer team. They have to wear pink and say hookers on the back? It says Villa Erotica! That's very funny I like it, we should have that even in non-austere times We just have it all the time. I think it's great! Yeah, why not? They're a commercial operation and this is legal in some parts of the world. And we're not a commercial outfit but I wouldn't mind if we had a brothel sponsoring the show or donating. We need some brothel donations... In more ways than one if you know what I'm saying. Hey wink-wink nudge-nudge say no more What do you mean? You just got back from

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Drone Warfare in Waziristan and Pipeline Protection

A BBC report on drone warfare in Waziristan is analyzed by the hosts. They argue that the mainstream media ignores the primary motivation for the strikes: protecting the strategic oil and gas pipelines that cross through that region of Pakistan.

drones· waziristan· pakistan· bbc· pipeline

2:31:16 I caught a bit of this. I just want to play the opening they did a whole panorama It's a very it's a pretty good BBC show they did a whole thing about drone warfare In Waziristan, which of course we called before you ever heard of it before in your life We said watch for this was here a storm. Which is where the pipeline crosses Pakistan use Yeah You spotted that one way early Okay All you have to do is just see where they're laying all the pipeline and follow the pipeline So so here's the BBC but they don't ask the central question It's the weapon that kills its target by remote control thousands of miles away

2:31:56 It's a very humane type of warfare given the ugliness and the killing that warfare entails. America says its drones are destroying Al-Qaeda, protecting western lives. This is great guys, I'm a Taliban shooting into the air my favorite! This thing has kept on a very tight leash But the drones are killing civilians women and children as well As children lose their lives, then the battle for the hearts and minds is immediately lost. Tonight's the secret war that has angered a whole nation. No more drones! Is it making us any safer? This is completely counterproductive. It actually helps the militants to recruit people

2:32:43 So what they don't ask, and I watch this whole thing it's in the show notes 474.nashownotes.com They don't actually ask why we're droning people in Waziristan? You listen to NOAA Agenda you know why It is protecting the pipeline But there's no question whatsoever about why this is happening and how in the world this can make any difference to us here. And by the way, it's not a declared war! This isn't even the army, it's the CIA doing this stuff... Oh I'm sorry that would be wrong to have that in our retrospective. Can't have that

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Haiti Travel Warnings and Year-End Wrap

The hosts conclude their 2012 retrospective by noting the State Department's travel warnings for Haiti due to crime and disease, contrasting this with the Clinton Foundation's hotel projects in the country. They sign off for the final time in 2012, wishing listeners a happy New Year.

haiti· clinton foundation· travel warning· 2012· retrospect

2:33:20 And I like the use of the word humane. How's it humane? Well, you know we don't make you suffer We just kill ya right out Unbelievable. So the last clip I'll play just so we don't get too boring, these retrospectives are... it's nice to look back at something. If I had known that you were going to do this I would have done like some music We could have done like a... You know what we can do is like Don Lemon does It was 2012 was really a fantastic year And then we could do all kinds of things like Charlie Sheen freaked out! Remember that? Winning winning winning

2:34:00 Oh yeah we could have put Charlie Sheen in there's also the one I do have a clip of. Lindsay Lohan did Dick and Liz and really sucked that went crazy! And now she... The one i think you may have forgotten is the clip which is here, it's where they go to Haiti to bring in deworming medicine for the children of Haiti. While the Clintons are building their hotel on the north side, kids have worms like dogs! It's been great being able to help out Aaron Jackson and planting peace by doing some fundraisers I've gotten introduced him to people and helped raise money

2:34:38 help his organization really get moving. He's the amazing guy who is doing all the really hard work and give him the cash and just let him go do what he does best They have four or five orphanages in Haiti, and I also went out when they distributed the deworming medication out in rural villages and towns You're distributing food all around the country. So many kids can be, you know eating their fill but because they're so filled with worms and unable to digest and process that food so it's really just kind of a waste. You deworm a kid and the worms shoot out within usually 24-48 hours Meanwhile this just in The US State Department as of today is warning against travel to Haiti Because of recent reports of killings?

2:35:31 Robbery and infectious disease Ottawa is also urging Canadians to exercise a quote high degree of caution because of High crime rates in various parts of Haiti look at the gall of these people at the gall It's amazing. Yeah, and that meanwhile the hotels are open The cruise ships are arriving You can go to Haiti as long as it's in an organized fashion and you stay in one of these sanctioned hotels. This is basically saying, don't go on your own, citizen! No, no. And finally the last clip would be this die-die-die clip from which is a Facebook post which again needs some... I'd like to see this kind of retrospective elsewhere. ...shooter are just now emerging classmates described Lane as an outcast who had been bullied it's unclear why he allegedly opened fire but in late December he posted a poem on his Facebook page that read

2:36:31 He longed for one thing, the world to bow at his feet and ended ominously die all of you. Another uplifting subtext story I think that was the kid in Cleveland Oh okay Die! Die! I don't think I quite remember that one Oh my goodness. Well, that's it John apparently we find things more interesting than the mainstream media as it comes to retrospective of the year past We have a very twisted sense of importance Apparently we have a sense of it's not even twisted is what people really should be you know