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00:00 Hey there, hot boy. Come pick up my bags! in the old town of Gitmo Nation Lowlands. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and still from Northern Silicon Valley where i remain not going to Belize either...I am John C DeVore. Yeah that's right everybody surprise surprise a show where I am in Amsterdam The Netherlands wait a minute yeah surprise surprise

00:48 So you want to discuss this happenstance? Yeah, I think we should because I only arrived in the hotel let's see three hours ago after flying all night setting up the studio doing whatever prep I could. I mean I did some prep in between the flight from Austin to Atlanta and Atlanta to Amsterdam So here's what is going on people. My lovely wife, the lovely Miss Mickey has a technical issue with her visa and was not allowed to re-enter into United States when she was due to return last Sunday all very dramatic and traumatic. Aren't you married to the woman? Yes I am but her green card that's a process that takes a couple months and it hasn't come in yet

01:38 and so she literally cannot come in until some new paperwork is arranged. Now, mind you she'd already been gone for two weeks running around Europe and it will take at minimum two more weeks for Janet Napolitano's crew who run the United States Customs Immigration Services to get an approval to the embassy in Amsterdam, and of course I've spoken to consul generals ambassadors etc. And they could just put a stamp they'd do it they love too but they have no say in that matter they have to wait until Janet Napolitano's people approved then they can give her a stamp right and then you don't care about you know they do not...

02:28 The Dutch Consul General who's in California, who we know. He is really frustrated! He is like this is the worst they can't do anything ever since 9-11 it's crazy so I am going to be in Europe for at least the next two weeks We are hoping to get home before Christmas and New Years and of course cover your ears honey I don't want her here Of course if things really go bad then it could be three months but... Hey, it could happen. Go to Paris for New Year's! Paris for New Years is supposed to be a really great... Yeah and you know what? You know what so cool as we have just cash rolling all out of our ass John? We're gonna go to Paris in Vienna and stay at a bed and break... Well your going with Airbnb I understand this saves money right? This is exactly what were doing

03:20 Right now we're in a hotel because I just wanted to make sure it could get in, get set up and have some Wi-Fi. And tomorrow we're going to go find an Airbnb here in Amsterdam at least until we figure out what the timeline is... It's crazy! What time is it here Mickey? Well I don't know what time it is. What time is it here? 6 30 in the evening? Yeah I'm like I slept In the past 76 hours I've slept two. Yeah, that's gonna make for a great show! And of course... Fine thank you and i had to get an immigration lawyer Alan Klein now these guys they got a great scam going all right I can get this done for ya I need $2300 check to me fifteen hundred fifty dollars checked at Department of Homeland Security for the expedited service

04:17 Need $250 check to am PTP. Don't ask what that is Okay, I'll do whatever you tell me to so this isn't this is gonna be a weird weird Christmas But at least we're together and and I did a pretty good job bringing all the additional clothes Mickey wanted Me to bring that was the most important you're sitting there half naked yourself though Yeah No, I have three up so You know unlike packing and usually Mickey does all the packing which is great And so now I have to do and not to think, and like concentrate, concentrate. And then you know, and then I'm like okay weigh the suitcase, 55 pounds what's gonna go? Hmm...I guess my stuff. Yeah! You can always buy stuff over there.

05:06 It's just so you don't have which though. I'm looking at Airbnb now, so you can get a place for Still not dirty. Not cheap You're talking if for something that's reasonable your least 100 bucks a night. I mean this is not yeah That's and that's right Yeah What about getting out of town there must be cheaper places in Rotterdam? Well we do what so we do have some friends with so we can probably you know bum off some people and stuff Yeah, I'm gonna go to Rotterdam. Hello is this on? Rotterdam Rotterdam gorgeous We're Amsterdamers we don't hang out in Rotterdam This is not correct is like five minute drive and give me a break five minutes No no it's like 40-minute Drive without traffic. It's not a five-minute drive

05:55 and it's Amsterdam people don't hang out in Rotterdam. You completely misunderstand how this works. Anyway, so we'll have a... I think it will be good for the show that we'll have a nice kind of European flair Yeah well you'd be breeding new European news. I'm just saying Rotterdam is 25 to 33% cheaper Alright alright stop it! This not a good idea Not going to Rotterdam. But anyway, so the good news is the rig works you know I brought the mobile set, the small mobile set because i couldn't have like the full on Hot Pockets Mobile Tour this is the rig that usually take just on a weekend but it sounds like its doing okay knock-on wood and we'll just have our show as regular

06:51 and it'll be you know we'll have some adventures I think, I guess. You will! I won't but it's a little frustrating that you know you have this here's a sunny apaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh That is really... We're kind of expecting that to happen John sound card is kind of on the fritz yeah it's like it is this machine has a... But its kind of like your Freddie Mercury? You're like well here's Galileo Galileo Here's what's bothering me. I have this really funny one-liner and then the thing goes dead, I had to hit that button again. It always gonna be on the punchline. By the way... I've been hilarious! And you haven't heard a word of it? No no, exactly

07:39 But anyway, I would just go on so let me just say it's rather frustrating to have to go through this experience and there is absolutely no No two ways about these people. They've got their rules these little Gestapo Nazis And you're gonna adhere to them and You know, you could have a million stamps and paperworks and letters from the Queen and whatever you're not getting unless you do it by their rules and There is not a single diplomat Diplomat mind you who can help no ambassador, you know No consul general. No uncle Don You know Uncle Don's like get a lawyer But the lawyer the lawyers like I can fix this I can do this ninety nine point nine percent Yes, sure. Yeah talker hand is there? There's a little town called the new ward Laverda yeah

08:35 Mickey he doesn't get it does he? Entire home! He's looking at Airbnb. No we're not gonna go to Leovardo There is an entire home, it's a giant house for $77 This is not good idea I'm not liking this all It's alright, we'll figure it out. We're gonna be on the lam, hiding from the man! You and McMacAfee? Yeah, it's exactly the same thing except that we haven't been arrested yet Where is Haushen in Mir Nahi? I don't know...I don't know...we're not going there. Wherever it is, we are not going there. So let me tell you- Holy crap! Wait wait wait stop just one more last thing One more house?!

09:28 It's on Tippie Island, it is uninhabited. It is an entire house for $66. Where is this? Tippee Island In Holland? Yeah, uninhabited Tippie Island is what it says. Tippie island? And then it says Dronten. Dronte! Dronte yeah okay Yeah, Mickey's you know. Oh wait wait I'm sorry. I'm sorry John. I misread this it's teepees. It was teepee. John um... John, ixnay on the elpeh you know? It's like yeah okay. I'm not helping anymore. He's been freaking out for a week and you know it's like we need a little peace and calm. Okay just trying to help oh boy so we will obviously have the European tour

10:19 or something like that. We're gonna do a... Hot Pockets! Here we have an option to go visit Mr Oil who has been very kind to hook us up on the island of Tenerife as John fixes his sound card which would be, which is an option for sure and it's certainly a lot cheaper than Amsterdam and uh... there's a we have an invitation to vienna let me look at airbnb vietnam so let me tell you what's in the news here in holland how about that about some logic is not going somewhere but it actually start this show well the show is starting so uh... as they got on the plane by the way

11:14 They made those KLM planes smaller I think while i wasn't looking. Holy moly! That's tight. What carrier? KLM Oh, yeah they probably moved it more seats and extra row of seats Airbus And I had one of those seats where um... It's off-centered from the row in front so my left foot was on to the left of some like electronic box and my right foot was to the right In my neighbor's space You know this is not good Wow. Yeah, it sucked and believe me your flight ain't cheap when you're booking three days ahead. Okay so something horrible happened here you know of course soccer or football is the national sport here obviously as we produce many of the world's great footballers

12:07 And so there's quite a vibrant weekend, you know semi-professional and amateur competition circuit. There is just every kid... You know just like little league here as they go and they play soccer! And this gets pretty sometimes pretty aggressive parents of course I'm sure it's the same like Little League you know that parents are all beating each other up stuff. One of the volunteer referees after a match where he, I guess the 15 year olds who were playing. The team that I think lost they didn't like a lot of his calls They wound up kicking him to death What? Yeah in the head Three fifteen-year old kids now to add insult to injury They tried to keep it secret for a couple days but what was this like Bernie's victory

13:05 I think it's kind of like when you're about to make a bad joke, that's when it kicks in. Yeah, noticed and it wasn't a bad joke. I said he was getting the problem up like he was reeking at Bernie's Well, it wasn't the fact that he was kicked to death It was the fact that the kids who did it were Moroccan This is the problem This is the big immigration problem that Europe has been dealing with and the Netherlands is it's a tinderbox you know, it said It's bubbling under and people are getting really really angry And it's not gonna be good. So this is what everyone is talking about and You know of course, this is Europe man austerity just kicked in you know, there's There's people like with no work No, uh, you know no food

13:58 It's cold, there is snow. He has the snow? Yeah it snowed last night and they're expecting a lot of snow tomorrow. Remember we are coming from Texas this is a shock! Yeah not good So that's kind of the big news and then everyone else just pissed off about you know the new government well because its the same prime minister And he basically ran in the election saying, no we're not going to help any more bailouts or any countries. No we're not gonna do that and of course the Netherlands just contributed significantly to the 40 billion euro tranche for Greece so everyone's like hey wait a minute! He lied to us! Yeah really surprise surprise

14:50 And I'm sure as we wander around the continent, we'll learn a lot more. It will add a new flair to the show so all in all i don't think it's bad Miss Mickey and I will be very cozy together living in close quarters in the teepee on the island. How much was the teepee? It's actually not just a teepee, it's like a whole village you get that your own Oh really! We can go from teepee to teepee really or... Yeah 66 bucks Are you sure that's not just one teepee and there are other people who have teepees Well I'd have to take another look

15:28 It says it's uninhabited. There is one, two three four five teepees that I can see. Nice! Let me see what it says... Accommodates 13. Oh! L and Teepees! Yurts Hey in the morning to you John C Dvorak In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water feet in the air and all of the knights and dames out there who support this show with their religiosity. Yes! And thank-you to Nick The Rat who provided us with our album art on the previous episode, episode 466. This is episode 467 of The No Agenda Show also known as... The Best Podcasts in the Universe

16:14 And that's right, no matter what happens. No matter what goes down we are here for you bringing you another fun-packed episode of the program and do... Let's see, Do we have someone helping us out on our endeavors today? Oh yes! We do. Okay this is good these are our silent nights You talk about the producers? Yeah, yeah. I'm struggling with this thing here. Let me I didn't download the spreadsheet yet Okay, I'm doing that now. Oh we speak right there it is fast or we can just as fast we can do something No, let's start with their producers beginning with Wade Ostrander in white cord Alberta who have donated contributed $2,000 on behalf of two silent nights

17:09 that apparently are secret and then they've only discussed this with you i have not had no knowledge of this yes this is uh... the silent nights have requested uh... that's all you read a message for their companies answering machine and in exchange for that uh... they both became knights hockey okay how nice is that that's great we should do more but this is your voice over career if any finally score when it was individuals are Yeah, well maybe another knighthood. So we really appreciate that of course there's some true value for value in the deal but it's highly appreciated thank you so much Wade I have a feeling and it should be... I think its... Do these aren't on-the air reads? Well we can do them on the air if we want but I think that this is they really want to professional read for their business

18:10 Oh I see, okay. It's really for the answering machine and then I dialed in and listened to the messages on there already. You know it's pretty like professional so they don't want a joke answering machine. They wanna keep business Push one if you want to hear this message again. No, it's not like that It's really professional Okay well let's go on Craig Harms in Wichita Kansas is another executive producer at Five Nights at Freddy's He says it's bogus! He's going to Lost Wages Nevada next week Wish him luck follow me on Twitter at Greg Harms Craig... Siiiiiiii

19:00 I had to go all the way to Amsterdam for you to have this go down? What, to machine? Yeah. I guess over the laptop it works better. Well... Okay Then we'd have to go to Skype Oh really? I prefer not to do that Because they don't have a mumble installed on that thing yet And I'll say, oh pfff Skype will be horrible You don't know that? Yeah, I do You're probably right David, go to Twitter and add craig harms hrm s david goes in new lennox illinois four sixty eight a year and he's early yes the machines for next week he said uh... in advance unit chicago in the morning to you wouldn't still wouldn't shoot at him yeah this is not going to work very well i'd like your new icon fifty-fifty so i was reduced

20:04 So I'm trying to run this, uh, is a Dell, um, ultra book. And so when you turn on Skype the all of a sudden, the Dell decides to turn on its camera and the camera software. Of course I always have a piece of tape over the camera. But meanwhile it has all these little you know it's not... It just did..I can't get rid of this thing so finally goes away but at least these avatars on that actually move when you talk. It doesn't with Skype obviously but does with whatever is a Delphine is So I picked the cat and then Skype for some reason said okay We use the cat that took this cat and made it my avatar. Oh, I like it. It's cute Yeah, that's very funny actually so Here's a question for you. I'm thinking That something is very very wrong with Putin because yeah we've been tracking You know there's

21:01 a story that we followed up on, that apparently when he was coming back from the conference his convoy was blown up and that's why we haven't seen from him or heard from him. And other people are saying oh he was flying around with those geese but the guy is basically MIA and he is MIA and then all of sudden everyone gets really bold. I make it absolutely clear to Assad and those under his command The world is watching! The world is watching! The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. And if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable." I love this! It matters now how we kill people? Really the chemical weapons it's kind of cool

21:52 You know what I mean? It's like, you don't ruin buildings. You just call the population out a little bit there is no rubble The people from different regions can move in later on Why is all of sudden chemical weapons so incredibly important other than it's a big distraction of the week Don't look over here please in fact we should... Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Oh look at that and then... Yes? While you're on this topic, we should at least I think this whole thing is uh but do you are you brought up two topics at once right in the middle of the executive producer rundown. Oh we weren't done yet! You're right i'm sorry

22:40 but we'll go back to that because it's good to the prudent thing there's no he's different messages coming out once as he was practicing dancing or something hers back yet and i think i was when they put him on codeine or something is a strong now and that's where you said i hadn't heard this what use of the was on the russian dancing with the stars and then he had to get a codeine is that what i'm saying uh... do some dancing in the fell allegedly and hers back home so not they had to adopt them up into that's the I still like the plane crash best. No, no it was the explosion his convoy was blown up that we know that's the real story but he was coming back from that conference remember?

23:19 Oh, right. Right yeah that makes sense the story a bit yes somebody tried to assassinate him Yes So but anyway But then on another topic complete different topic which is this this chemical weapons thing This is a scheme to for an excuse to maybe put some boots on the ground or create no flies and there's something amiss with this because I have three clips on this that are That are all sketchy And we can start with the first one which is uh Carney Yeah, the spokesholder Carney. Carney comes up and then he has a stooge in one of the women in the audience ask question and then she's supposed to follow with another question which she answers but she doesn't ask Wait a minute did someone hand out the wrong script? Is that what you're saying? He asked himself The question I get it within bit It is kind of funny but play the carny oops wrong script clip partners on this issue

24:13 I would simply say that we closely monitor Syria's proliferation sensitive materials and facilities, and we believe as of now that Syria's chemical stockpiles, chemical weapons stockpile remains under Syrian control. But we closely monitor them beyond that I can't really discuss matters of intelligence. Could you also just say that as the rebels advance is there concern on part of the administration I'm sorry, I said yes before you finished your question and I apologize. I thought your question was going to be as the opposition makes advances do we have concerns about the possibility that the Assad regime in desperation might use chemical weapons? And the answer is yes. Broadly speaking we have concerns about

25:10 the disposition of chemical weapons, but as I noted earlier it is our belief based on our monitoring that those weapons remain in control of the Syrian regime. Now in Hollywood we call this a very giving actor because clearly she messed up and then he jumped the gun but no matter what happened there in that little dialogue that was scripted he jumped on the grenade and took it upon himself so uh... bravo a very good actor. He's great to work with, he is lovely man to work with very very good Mr Carney So the other clip is we're starting to see this show up in CNN an elsewhere there has never been any indication by the way that

25:56 that there's a gas, if anything is going to happen with gas. And with this report the Syria doomsday scenario report which was on your buddy CNN what's her name? Oh Erin Burnett Yeah Burnett They never say that this has been threatened or they even have it...they just make it up! This like a made-up situation and its very interesting to listen to them make it from scratch Our third story out front tonight, breaking news out of the Pentagon. Sources tell CNN that the U.S is huddling with allies on what a chemical attack by Sirius Vashra will... But notice it's all coming out of the Pentagon from our pentagon sources. ...what God would actually look like

26:35 We have a picture from former CIA operative and CNN contributor Bob Bair here to show you. This is actually showing you what the impact of a single shell of sarin gas would be if it were launched on the western city of Homs in Syria, as you can see, uh, the large swathe of the city which would be affected by again a single shell. show notice how she stumbles there and says show oh that's a good one I mean shell show shell show 18,000 people would be killed in a day Let's get straight to see 18,000. What kind of number is that? Come on at least throw a 33 in there Berlin Correspondent Barbara star and Barbara what what have you learned tonight I Have a clip from Barbara Starr in a moment That's gonna blow your socks off well You know Aaron as tragic and serious as this is for the people of Syria this now has regional implications of course

27:29 throughout the Middle East. Ah, because of the cloud! Intelligence services from Israel Turkey Jordan Lebanon all the countries surrounding Syria are now talking with United States around-the-clock about this very scenario because if there were to be God forbid a chemical attack that concern is some effect could drift across borders worse even as tragic and that would be... Are you yelling? No, that's a noise they're playing. What do you mean collapses terrorists move in? the car alarm insurgent group in groups within and grab some chemical material they could take it across those borders into this neighboring countries you can have a full-blown fledged crisis in my life so that last week well like okay player today at one less to business another script action but no i wouldn't let me let me let me interject because after all this happened by him actually storm and for five flight from austin to atlanta

28:28 and the plane is delayed, it doesn't leave until 1130 at night. And they have CNN on everywhere and it's breaking news! Breaking news! Breaking news! Anderson Cooper on the scene! He has the following report which then rolls into another Barbra Starr where she says something that... Actually I can play half of it because she basically repeats the thing about the cloud wafting over everyone's all trippy but this was the best Hey, welcome back. We got important breaking news to tell you- Important breaking news? It's not just any breaking news! Important Breaking News! Oh there are different categories of breaking news This is IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS Pay attention slaves! We've got right now NBC News is reporting that US officials say their worst fears have been confirmed That the Syrian military has loaded chemical weapons inside bombs Woohoo! NBC says those same officials say that Bashar al Assad forces are now awaiting final order To use those loaded missiles against Syria's own people DUP

29:21 So they got a lot of information that they're waiting for. Now let's switch over to the NBC report that Anderson Cooper is referring to. We begin tonight with an important story. See? Important breaking news, important story! So that's where they're cross-pollinating... Details which may sound very familiar to a lot of Americans. What what they are showing in the background is actual picture of Iraq Okay, they're showing file footage. It says file footage Iraq given our history over the past few years in places like Iraq Tonight, Pentagon sources are telling NBC News Syria is preparing chemical weapons for their possible use against the Syrian people in the form of aerial bombs. It's believed this specific intelligence is the reason why President Obama took a hard line against Syria just a few days ago warning them there would be consequences if these weapons were used

30:18 Now let's go back to Pooper. This video posted online which we should say we can't independently verify... It's just a picture of some pointy things, some sticks and metal tubes. ... purports to show Syrian missiles that have been modified to carry chemical and biological weapons. modified but wait it gets better way to barbara star comes in obviously this is a sobering development situation over again worse through by the day pentagon correspondent barbara star joins me now along with cn contributor from c i officer bob baird on the phone seen national security contributor fran townsend barber i know you're working to confirm his nbc report how much would this development change the situation if u.s. military is going act for a while before it from from gassing his own people it would seem

31:04 if they've loaded this up into weapons the time to do it would be at hand well right now i can tell you anderson if this is true turns out to be true even if not the u.s military cia it was not true it's a great story come up here tonight we're having a good time but that all right i mean this is so much in nine this is so much bull crap this and i think that this is why i brought up uh... putin because i think Ultimately, the Middle East if you go back to the 19th century, if you go back to the days of Churchill before there wasn't even an Iraq or a Jordan. These were all names that were made up much later

31:42 It's always the British imperialist against the Russians. And now it is maybe us by proxy, our special relationship... It is basically grabbing the turf from the Russians! I think Putin is out of commission and weak and uh... and isn't there's there's confusion about who is running the show in russia i think that's why besides the fact it's a great time to strike because you know we've got all this other crap than on the other what needs to be covered up like benghazi here we have sick i think two or three thousand troops on the u.s. s enterprise meal park right off of syria i think it's it's just like hate rushes week let's go when we can nail it now what do you think

32:26 I'm not going to argue that's not a bad theory. The thing that is interesting about the clips you played and the clips i was playing, Is the comment at NBC, what's his name? Brian Williams. Williams says this is very familiar to Americans And the reason it's interesting because my last clip which is about the script We're looking at scripts here. I mean this is scripted in every which way the way we see it So tell me about the historical script the last time this script played out was Iraq Well, no and last time it played out was in Libya Oh of course if you listen to this script You're going to get

33:12 the common element which they always bring in. That's what is very familiar, here we go again. That's what our network runs on. The money is that the three countries that you hear about the most are Russia, Venezuela and Iran all countries that have been his allies although the Russians clearly are losing some of their support for Assad given this recent crisis with the chemical weapons so those are the countries you hear about now The assessment is that Assad isn't ready to go

33:57 The US says they haven't seen anything in terms of concrete asylum offers. But you know, the US is happy to let it be out there as a rumor maybe Assad's commanders will think the boss is getting cold feet and might desert them. Alright Barbara Starr thank you very much. What front next? 57% Shut up! Shut Up! Barbara Starr she's in there for somebody she's like the representative It's funny because he actually looks like Ringo Starr sister I can't remember what she looks like. Please, imagine Ringo Starr with breasts! No this really is an image that i just can't deal with it Deal with it my friend So we have the same scenario It's a reset or reboot Americans are very familiar with it And so they're running the same game and I can just imagine Assad going What are they talking about? We haven't got any missiles poised...I'm seeking asylum?! Are they kidding me!?

34:52 No boys, I don't even talk to these people. Venezuela and they're making up countries there's always something you know it's the same thing with Gaddafi he was seeking asylum it was gonna be Venezuela right now he knows nothing in South America no member remember it was um you called it it was what was right next door and half his family showed up there oh come on man you actually remember you calling it on Morocco? No no no no no Algeria Algeria, yes. Yeah, Algeria. It was rumored to be in Algeria? Yeah, supposedly... In fact if you remember when they already caught the two sons that they were supposedly out of the country! The wife was someplace else right I mean we had this with Assad's wife she was supposedly in Russia but I think we saw her recently in Syria and living it up on their Riviera that they have. All I know is I keep seeing pictures of her with the Asads with Brad and Angelina

35:49 with Carrie and Teresa Hines. I mean this is a replay of the script because if you look at Gaddafi Go, you know just google some pictures Everybody's hanging out with Gaddafi everybody's his bestest buddy until then you know until he You know screwed over the French on the arms deal and in because they sent him refurbished weapons He's like screw that I'm not paying and they went Oh really? And yeah, and then he read and then you wanted to nationalize all the oil. I mean this is exactly what's going on No, I think I think that, just to me it feels like there's a Putin thing. That is the problem because all of us are... you know this is why are we so bold right? Because this has been the problem. Why is all this.. The chemical weapon thing first emerged a couple months ago and then died and now its in full force as though reports from the Pentagon they don't have anybody on feet on the ground over their boots on the ground that knows anything where's the only show pictures

36:46 of these missiles? What are they, you can't just take a missile and knock the top of it off and shove in some gas. Modify- It's called modifying! Hold on a second... It's modified! Let me just I've got some sarin gas i'm gonna put let me screw John unscrew the top unscrew the top we're putting this sarin in The only country that uses chemical weapons on its own people is here in the United States. We do it to college students, okay? In Berkeley we spray them with pepper spray actual chemical warfare against our own people. We do that for occupiers. That's...we do that! Well they do in Greece too. They've actually been doing it all over Europe. Right

37:30 Anyway, so this whole thing is an upcoming fiasco which is just going to get worse by the minute. You might be right about Putin he may be completely out of commission and he may not make a comeback And the next thing you know they're gonna have another election. Now there's something else that happened and this is also coming out of the state department as you know the woman who used to work directly for lucifer hillary clinton now runs amnesty international and amnesty comes out with a report which the bbc was happy to come through on about yemen it's being called a human rights catastrophe by amnesty international horrifying story of an armed militia group carrying out public executions in dollar atrocities in yemen

38:14 The war crimes are said to have taken place in Yemen's southern Abyan region between February and this is interesting because this is the southern region not the northern region where we've been droning all times for this is something new june of this year the fierce fighting was between government forces in the militia group on soul sharia uh... linked to al-qaeda the amnesty international reports as a group carried out amputations flogging public killings and even crucifixions amputation floggings and even crucifixions? I mean, where's the video?! Well, I'm surprised they didn't... They should lay this on Assad. This is good stuff! This is a new script writer in town. Crucifixions!? Seriously?? So the Muslims are nailing up people to crosses? Is this really what's happening? Am I supposed to believe it?

39:08 seems very likely this really can amputation beheadings make sense but no uh... so i will say that um... gunman attacked an oil pipeline near the gulf of aden which is in the south so maybe this summer tally asian we need some reason to go and and drone these guys these poor saps were probably just you know and that's eight thousand barrels of crude today is that a lot seems like a lot that's a pretty decent pipeline right? It's not really that big but yeah, none of these pipelines are really that... it just is constant you know. I don't know what the... we have to look at the rate. Well you know what's in the Gulf of Aden don't ya?

39:53 yeah the the yes our fish are starfish target exactly start on game so that you need replenish it with more fish as the stardate to let's go back to our executive producers and my rap them up we had Craig harms in Wichita Kansas That's not good. David goes a new Lennox, Illinois 468 in the morning he's also apparently a fellow wooden shoe Oh so his name would be Hoos? Yeah Hoos You said Goes It says Goes I'm sure it is pronounced Goes here No i am sure that he runs around saying hello I'm David Hoos

40:36 Okay, well maybe he does run around. Green's from Gitmo Nation Southside I think 468 may be a bit premature but i call it my preemptive Iranian contribution uh on the last show Adam you said you watched three hours of congressional autism hearings and you had some clips and then you said you got sidetracked yeah WTF as the resident crackpot autism dad of Gitmo nation and father to The Spinning Knight um I have to say I need some coverage of this bull crap So I downloaded the three hour and 18 minute recording, and i will have time during my stay in lovely chilly lowlands to find it. It was...I watched a lot of it and was just funny because its just all the stuff we know about all this stuff that you know they're pushing on us the DSM-5 you know your kid if your kids walks on his tiptoes get him on some drugs

41:31 So, you know it's not like there is really any shocking information but I will commit to putting anything out there that i find that is new or interesting other than all the people in the hearings are in the back pocket of the pharmaceutical companies and their entire intent is to get your kid on drugs. Yeah, well that's pretty much the whole intent of the medical industry. In the meantime he says, on my last rent I didn't ask for karma but you gave it to us anyway thank you! Since then my wife and her business partners book Thinking Moms Revolution has been picked up and will be released for publication in March April 2013 Thanks for the unsolicited karma in response please give the who's clan

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48:50 No, I mean i can hear myself. It doesn't matter if you can hear yourself because... No it does when its this loud! Oh what do you mean? Well I can turn this down a little bit is that better as I turned this down let me test That's a little better. What were we discussing? I have no idea! Let's just do some clips yeah so while you were setting up the The mumble which is definitely a better sound. I got, Miss Mickey handed me a plate of bitter balls are you familiar with the bitter ball concept? I never heard it and never done to what you're talking about In Holland have you ever had a croquette? Probably yeah so the croquette is kind of like A long version of the bitter ball and the bitter ball was just a roundball version of the croquette And it's really really nice

49:51 So why don't you set up a clip so I can take a bite because I haven't eaten in two days. Well let's see, well I got a seven minute clip... No no just do something relevant to today's show we don't need any seven-minute clips Well, here's a funny clip. This is this was a minor issue that took place this week when some guy in a football game Bob Koss has made some commentary about this. A football player had shot his girlfriend and then gone over to the stadium where he works

50:27 Thank the coach for helping him and then shot himself in the head. Right? And so this but women all the mainstream media is on this story and you're bringing This into the best podcast in the universe there must be a very good reason for this Yes, because Lawrence O'Donnell who is a douchebag par excellence he decides to make some commentary on this and I was it and he makes his crazy conclusion that It's like this jaw-dropping, why does anybody listen to these people on MSNBC if this is their idea of an analysis of the situation? You just have to play it. Self-bombers, predator drones, tanks and nuclear weapons

51:11 I for one played enough football in high school and watched enough football for years after that to be done with football a long time ago. But i'm glad that Bob Costas and Jason Whitlock aren't done with football, I am glad they were there this weekend to speak to the football world about the biggest thing that happened in football this weekend And from Mike Huckabee Herman Caine and the don't blame the gun crowd Mike Lupica had this question today in his column. How many home runs would Babe Ruth hit without a bat? What what does that even mean

51:59 How many of these bitter balls would you eat without a mouth? Or with no mustard, the black crow flies at dawn. What is MSNBC thinking? And believe me I didn't edit that there was nothing done this... That ended just with that. So before i left I did catch some pretty outrageous stuff So there was, we've talked about this many times on the show. The United Nations has all of these crazy treaties that they want us to ratify so we have the Law of the Sea Treaty which is having a hard time even getting to a vote now to be ratified and

52:41 The rule of the children treaty, that's not the actual name of it but where you can't discipline your child in United Nations and basically makes the children boss over their parents. We've read some of that legislation here on this show. And most recent one was the UN legislation about against discrimination of disabled people. And to me, I need to bring out this analysis for people who are listening to us who are not in the United States of Gitmo Nation This was a setup as far as i'm concerned and John Stewart shame on you he did like 10 minutes on this A set up to get people

53:21 Not for not or did not focus on the fact that there's no reason for us to be ratifying UN Treaties, there's no reason at all. I read the entire treaty. I have a copy in the show notes I have a clip and by the way, I'm glad you read the treaty because it's nothing it's like it's like So what? It's like you could replace the word disabled person with human being. It was basically a human rights treaty you know about human rights the only thing was missing was that it is the one thing that missed was disabled people shall be allowed to use the internet i mean it was like it was like what is this who gives a commitment let me play the bull crap and then I want to hear your clip of very interested so start off with O'Donnell who was amin did the way these guys were laying on was just baffling to make in the United States well before you do people await but best up yeah

54:21 I want to say that i have exactly the same take as you on this. This thing is befuddling and why has the left, and all these MSNBC people... Why are they so into this when it's just like..I agree we don't sign any of these things but we have our own laws about disabled Americans for disabled. We have to shame everybody The word shame is big on this one. Shame the Republicans, Senate whoever whoever is just shame everybody so that the next time when a really important one comes up it actually has some language that means something. I'm not saying this the disabled treaty doesn't mean anything but its like, it doesn't affect us either way you know we have very good laws and we don't need to sign on to this bull crap UN stuff but I think what it means

55:15 Can you get that love? Thank you. I think what it means is prepping people so that we don't... I kind of like your theory and basically but it seems to me that there, I don't believe that! I think there was something screwy about this or some little hidden tidbit No no John I read the whole thing. Some sovereignty thing? Nope nope nothing The only reason not to sign it because there's no reason to sign it Because once you start signing treaties, well then let's do the Internet Freedom Treaty. Let's do the Law of The Sea Treaty. Let's do the Rights Of The Children Treaty and why don't we just... You know what? We don't need to send it! Let's just have the United Nations run everything That's the point

56:02 Okay, go on play the clip. Here's O'Donnells. It was such a day...a day of shame and sadness. John Kerry in his role as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was leading the senate as the floor manager of a treaty By the way, floor manager is a universal television term for the guy who's running the show on the floor so he can talk to you again directly in the booth. Pointing cameras, yeah. 3-2-1 and your're on! On the other side of aisle the senior Republican from the foreign relations committee rose not in opposition but in support of that same treaty Richard Lugar and John Kerry got 61 votes in the Senate today for ratification of a United Nations Treaty on the Rights of the Disabled which was modeled

56:49 passed by the Senate 22 years ago, the Americans with Disabilities Act. In effect it was a vote to export American law to the 155 nations around the world that have signed this treaty, a treaty that has already been ratified by 126 of those countries including the United Kingdom France Germany China Russia has ratified it now you can pass anything in the Senate with 60 votes accept treaties which require 66, a two-thirds majority. Every Democrat voted for the treaty and only eight Republicans voted for the treaty 38 Republicans disgraced themselves and disgraced the Senate by voting against it and controlling the outcome

57:36 So that's O'Donnell, and then we have... so that's kind of the Republican left side uh, the Democrat lef-left side um, the progressive douchebag. Now here is the right hand side mourning Joe with Joe Scarborough who is the right hand side saying pretty much the same thing! Years now it is scar tissue that slowly but surely builds up where good decent hardworking Americans see what's going on in Washington D.C., and they're not even ideological And they go, wait a second. We have wounded warriors here? We have American heroes? We have people that devoted their entire life to try and help other wounded warriors across the globe? Did he say devoted or voted their entire- I think he said voted their entire life Let me listen again Their entire life Ah shoot Hold on

58:31 We have wounded warriors here, we have American heroes. We have people that voted their entire lives. He says voted doesn't he? I think it just came out wrong to try and help other wounded warriors across the globe They had like people in wheelchairs but it's unnecessary! We have the most incredibly friendly laws for disabled people disabled citizens. To me, really John the only reason is to say our government doesn't work look at how great the world government is maybe just have the UN do everything they've got all the great treaties shame!

59:16 I think that's part of it. There may be also something more sinister, which is to keep more of our disabled overseas in office jobs and various... I didn't John! I read this thing really carefully. No but here's this is kind of play my clip and then there was this explanation what I just said is kinda again the left says it but they say it. You gotta give me a hint on the clip here. It says disability on it treaty. Disability? Oh well thats a clue He argued yesterday on the floor. I and many of my constituents, including those who homeschool their children or send their children to private or religious schools have justifiable doubts that a foreign UN body, a committee operating out of Geneva Switzerland should decide what is in the best interest of the child at home with his or her parents in Utah or any other state in our great union.

1:00:14 Oh my God. Let me go to Ted Kennedy on that, just for a minute. Ted you have a disability? You lost a leg to cancer years ago and I've always admired how you've handled it What does it mean to somebody's disabled disability? To an American for example Well I think that for disabled Americans we feel that the Republican Party has really turned their backs because what this treaty does as senator kerry who by the way has been our champion on this and so many issues and i commend a senator carry as well as senator lugar in the eight republican senators who bucked the trend of of and green credible pressure uh... by that extremist in that in the in the right wing of his party to somehow mischaracterize this treaty the tree is simple it simply says

1:00:59 disabled americans including disabled american veterans of or afford the same rights overseas is they are here and at home which is why Now, I'm not buying any of this. By the way did you notice his little...I think it was an intentional flub? No i missed that Where he pronounced the word extremist as extremists. Ha ha no I didn't miss that You didn't oh I thought you'd catch that for sure! Well I am also following along with people in chat room with their opinions But I don't think this has nothing to do with homeschooling. It's just purely, to me... Why do we have to ratify anything from the United Nations?

1:01:44 And I read through this thing, you know me. I love this stuff! Okay there's something great in here... It was basically exactly the same thing that is our law and it's like recognizing that believing in so we all agree on that. Well big deal! Here's what gets me. There is a sovereignty play but Does anybody really expect there to be a ramp up the Eiffel Tower for somebody in a wheelchair, which this law would require if it's going to be the same as what we have in this country with Americans with Disabilities Act? Which is why all these ramps are everywhere. You know you can't... If they're steps, you have to have a ramp

1:02:23 uh... and so we do we have more with the place especially in california was even more extreme laws and then we have a little very amenable to the disabled in california but does anybody really expect europeans that follow any of this stuff that we do well don't say no the eiffel tower does have wheelchair accessibility up to the second level so you can get out there take it to the top No, no. You can't get to the top. What about the roof of Notre Dame? How about the Washington Monument while we're at it then? I mean that's bull crap!

1:03:02 We know that there are treaties out... Look, this is the only thing I can say. We know there are treaties out there that we have discussed That have things in them and not necessarily... And i'm not even talking about a sovereignty It's just not even advantageous to us The whole internet freedom thing Screw off with that! You don't need any...I dont want the United Nations telling us what we can and cant say on the internet You know, that goes against our definition of freedom of speech because you can't talk badly about other religions according to the United Nations. So I think the whole point is hey! You horrible shameful people...I can't believe that you voted against invalids which is where the word comes from Invalid's of the disabled and therefore you better look sharp on the next treaty or we'll shame you again

1:03:55 That's the only... Do it on one that is not important. And then, because I heard Hillary talking about Law of the Sea just the other day she is bringing up again so there something going on with that Well, this whole thing is pretty thematic. On MSNBC that substitute guy for Rachel Maddow whose name I can never remember the guy with the funny glasses fast-talking guy. They had a little discussion on the marijuana bill and we can play that by the way you clip is I think a minute or two

1:04:33 But it goes on for 10 minutes and then I have to make a comment on the thing after you play the short part of the clip. kind of highlights exactly the issue here. The statement reads, in enacting the Controlled Substance Act Congress determined that marijuana is a schedule one controlled substance regardless of any changes in state law including the change will go into effect on December 6th and Washington State blah blah blah he goes onto say basically members of public are advised to remember it remains against federal law to bring an amount of marijuana onto federal property including all federal buildings natural parks forests military installations and courthouses

1:05:18 This is an indicator, right? Of what is going to happen when this titanic clash has been set up between the state of Washington and what its voters have duly chosen. And what the federal government says illegal. Absolutely that's either a rogue US attorney or it's a trial balloon from the Obama administration. I think more likely it's a trial balloon because Obama himself has said look I'm the president but I can't legalize marijuana because Congress has outlawed it But either way, it is a trial balloon in the sense that it's going to have a chilling effect on the evolution of the industry in Washington. I mean, the governor of the state, the regulators when they get together to hash out the structure of the market they are conspiring to break federal law. They're committing a crime. Right. So how is that going to play out? In both these states you have basically the law says they're gonna legalize marijuana growth and distribution and regulate it

1:06:12 Can any of that even take place unless there is some resolution from the federal government about how they're gonna treat it? All right, but by the way when I'm blowing my nose. It's not on the air you just hearing it through the mic so This goes on for another 10 minutes with the same kind debate not once Not once and they'll never mention this on MSNBC do they ever discuss the Tenth Amendment the rights of the state to pass these sorts of laws and why isn't it that anti-drug law part of the Constitution? It's essentially illegal for the federal government based on the Constitution, to have these laws in the first place. This is up to the states! They never discuss this they just go back and forth about what Obama wants and what he can and cannot do which is also bogus because he could minimize enforcement say we're not going to enforce these laws

1:07:02 He could do it at the drop of a hat. He promised he was going to when he was elected in 2008, didn't do it! He's instead sent the mad dogs out to California So this is all bull crap and these left-wingers they just are beside themselves not fair well why is Obama on our side? Well he has no choice, he has to enforce these laws and he already non enforced numerous laws that are federal law this whole thing and the tenth amendment issue is again part of this let's just federalize, let's make a national government screw the states and it's what its all leading to. Yeah anyways so well hello this is the basic premise... And then lets just give it over to the United Nations exactly that's a fractal that's a fractal exactly so you have the states

1:07:45 The central government, just like we have Europe where everyone here has given up all their control and their sovereignty. No I'm sorry they're pooling their sovereignty with Brussels that all leads up into North American Union or whatever you know? We joke about it but you know what's going to be like 71 day and we'll go like hey crap! Strike that one out of the red book. We knew it was gonna happen, you know It literally is is coming true But the programming that has been so you're pointing out such a good something So obvious but so good to reiterate it Is when you just gloss over all about the programming is in on these people In fact didn't I read your report? That Rachel Maddow and

1:08:31 Someone out there were all getting a private briefing from the president. Oh wait, hold on a second. Sharpton, Maddow... O'Donnell And O'Donnell they got like a private briefing from the president? Well no they got their walking orders and here's the clip that you got me this was it a few days before that let's see secret tape where is the one with Maddow she is bitchin' and moanin about the Petraeus The leaked Petraeus tape where some woman who works for Fox makes a claim... Secret tape analysis? Is that the one? Yeah, that must be it. Here play this and then I'll discuss mad out what a hypocrite she is. This audio recording is rather salacious news but buried under all... Wait was I flying and I missed some sex tape

1:09:18 Give me the background. What did I miss? Okay, you've missed Oh No, oh no, I missed the sex tape from betrayers. Listen to see that hot babe with Paula really Oh God, how old he howls when he yeah now anyway So uh know what happened was they had done an interview in 2011 before while he was still enough Gavis get gassed and with Fox and this woman whose name is you can type in tape if your our name is She's interviewing him for an hour and then she let the tape running at the end, and she starts talking to me No Roger Ailes would like to make sure that you don't take any other jobs because they think this you should run for president is in 2011 And and and and then she's just blowing smoke. He's saying yeah right I don't care did them just to summarize Yeah, well You know I like Rogers a good guys are sharp guy knew They mentioned that a little bit here too into this is the second part. I'm not gonna play didn't

1:10:13 clip i have the first part but it's kind of boring to be honest about it as is basically she's going on and on he saying i don't think so essentially and then any says that she's working at least have a meeting with him and i got that part of this tape and say i mean these are really smart guy oh here's a great guy she said knowing that takes running he's gonna end up hearing it just kiss ass the whole thing goes on and then rachel goes off the deep end about uh... this shows you how foxes in bed with the republicans in their trying to trying to vet candidates for the Republican Party, then two days later she's in the White House getting her marching orders from Obama. What a... It was ludicrous! Kathleen T McFarland Yeah who cares what she says? Who kind of looks like a little milfier version of Paula You know what these people you know they're all criminally insane

1:11:09 They got motorcades, they got whores. Whores everywhere I'm telling you! They just got hookers and blow... And I don't think they're capable of selling weapons and running anything. They're just buying servers and spending money blowing each other. There's nothing going on but waste of money and sex This whole tape was her flirting with him to be honest about it. But anyway, play this and hear Maddow go on and on. That salaciousness there is also something newsworthy here not just because the whole thing is juicy and weird and about a residual sex scandal in a weird part of the paper and about a weird part of the media and a weird part of the Republican Party if you listen to the rest of the tape what you ultimately get to is General Petraeus turning down this very kind offer from the Fox News chairman to run for president and have Fox News support him all the way

1:12:02 But in the way he politely turned down Roger Ailes' advice, General Petraeus said something that I think might be very important about how the US government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in Washington at a time like this. Listen to this part of the tape, this is where General Petraeus makes his argument for why not just the Joint Chief's Chairman job would be a good job but why in particular running the CIA would be a really good job to get. For the hookers! Wait, before you play the rest. She also does this thing and she does it commonly when she's doing her news reporting. She says Roger Ailes asked him this and Murdoch asked... No! Neither one of those two guys were in the room It was this woman

1:12:51 that was saying she was representing the other people but she doesn't present it that way. She says when Roger Ailes made him the offer... Hey John! We don't know that he made him an offer! John, you're getting really worked up about this Matt Opera. I'm gonna cut you off man. I mean we can not let you talk about her anymore You're getting really upset and she's not worth it. A lot of what we do in future believe or not in Libya right now perhaps is what that organization can do. We're going to be retrenching militarily, and you're gonna take big budget cuts and it's gonna be all about... It's gonna be the post-war era." Right! Okay let me without even hearing the rest of me paraphrase there's gonna be so many budget cuts in defense it's better to be in the CIA because it's all secret we could staff up and drone everybody from there Is that paraphrasing?

1:13:44 Well, no. But that's what he says... No it's I'll give you the paraphrase He says exactly what you said the first part The second part was the CIA... He says the intelligence community on the other hand is a growth industry Exactly! It's a growth industry That's what I'm saying! It says where all money has gone Yeah but he didn't put the kind of corrupt aspect into play Come on they're all corrupt Oh I'm sorry I just can't handle anymore talk about that Can I talk about some legislation that i read? Yeah, why don't you do that. Okay it falls on... And then I get to talk about the fiscal cliff! I actually have a clip myself, a cliff clip but first this is my buddy Chad there our producer in Colorado he has become we have a really interesting relationship now where he is a federal register maven

1:14:44 and he's a federal register maven so he just I mean he has a job, he has a job you know he is an EMS fireman you know he saves people lives. He loves to read the Federal Register. But what he does is he finds him and says okay this it and then hands off to me And so this is about the, and this is great. I'll read you the... So and you know people You have to read your federal register This is actually the news in fact we could start a news organization tomorrow which would be highly entertaining fun We could present it and it will be real news because This is where you can just sit there all day and just source stories Federal Register

1:15:30 Artificially sweetened fruit jelly and artificially sweetened fruit preserves and jams proposed revocation of standards of identity. So what does this mean? The fruits-and-jam industry has petitioned the Food and Drug Administration for labeling. They don't want to have to label their products as artificially sweetened And here is the FDA's response. We find merit in IJPA's argument that revoking the artificially sweetened standards of identity would allow manufacturers to more accurately and consistently describe the attributes of the fruit spreads that currently conformed to those standards

1:16:23 We therefore tentatively conclude that revoking the standards would promote honesty and fair dealing in the interest of consumers. So, instead of saying artificially sweetened claims such as low calorie Reduced sugar? Reduced sugar better characterized the nutritional profile of the affected fruit spreads than the term artificially sweetened. And it goes on and gone from there, can you believe this that they so that Food and Drug Administration who are supposed to protect you are allowing them the change in labeling from fake sugar artificially sweeten with chemicals

1:17:10 I don't know, if it's not... Artificially means not natural. So to change that to low calorie or reduced sugar we're in the wrong business man What a scam! What a scam I'm telling you. That's a good one yeah there's a couple more when we get to drones, i'll talk about that later. All right well I have a little kind of fun clip this is for people who wonder what we do for a living. There is a, this is what you have to play the whole clip I mean I do have it cut off doesn't go on forever but there's three items and every once in awhile you turn on The Senate and listen with The Senate and now they're really doing their real business. Hold on a second hold on a second this is C-SPAN so...

1:18:08 Just so you know, that's what we do. This goes on for hours! There is nobody in the place with these... they have to ramrod all this crap through this and this clogs up the Federal Register by the way all these things because it all goes in and this is an example of what your Senate instead of dealing with a fiscal cliff or doing other things They have to deal with his bullcrap and they do it for hours and hours and hours and here just a little clip of Carl Levin in the senate ramrodding a bunch of bullcrap into the senate and into law and into you know whatever but this is just listen to this it's outrageous. The Globuchar amendment which is at the desk be agreed to, the bill as amended be read a third time and passed, the motions to reconsider be considered made and laid upon table with no intervening action or debate that any statements relating to the measure be printed at the appropriate place on the record as if read without objection

1:19:03 Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the HELP Committee be discharged from further consideration of SRES 600 as Senate proceed to its immediate consideration. Senator Resolution 600 supporting the goals and ideals of American Diabetes Month. Without objection, the committee is discharged. Party time! It's American Diabetes Month, I tell you. And the Senate will proceed to the measure. and that any amendments relating to the measure be printed at the appropriate place in the record as if read. Without objection I now ask unanimous consent Mr President, that the Senate proceed with consideration of SRS 603 which was submitted earlier today. Book report

1:19:55 Senate Resolution 603. Wimby Graves just slipped in there like, hey and by the way I'd like to have someone blow me under the table right now while I snort some blow up pussy. Designating the week of November 26th through November 30th 2012 as National Nurse Managed Health Clinic Week. Ha ha you know there's just not enough national nurse health clinic week going on. With objection to managed healthcare Yeah, you're right. I ask unanimous consent that the resolution be agreed to, the preamble be agreed to, the motion reconsidered be laid out on the table with no intervening action or debate and any related... Bullshit! Yes national nurse managed health care week

1:20:40 What is the point of wasting the public's time even Levin's or anybody's time on this bullcrap and this goes on for hours I know I've come across it myself, and you can't for what we do You can't help but watch because you know that from time to time there There's that thing. There is that one thing, that one thing they slip in. Yeah exactly If we had a staff of 100 can you imagine how much better than the New York Times we could do? I mean or NPR your national treasure We're already doing better than NPR Yes true

1:21:16 Well, we don't have the amount of programming. We can only do so much. Yeah, we only do five hours a week and it's listener supported which is a lot different than anyone else is doing if you had a huge staff of people It would be a very costly enterprise. You'd have to take ads eventually and then the thing would go downhill. Yeah, and I don't think we get to play stuff like... Can you imagine that if on NPR they just came out and said well today we saw this Carl Levin on TV and we just thought hey you know you are a... That would be some outstanding programming right there. Yeah, they won't do it No Which is why... Well actually I think we should take our little break here

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1:27:11 Come on, it was a joke. You're not a cheap bastard! It was a joke. The 8th Nights of Hanukkah begins on the evening of Saturday the eighth and ends the evening of Sunday the ninth. John's analysis of the Democratic Party and self-loathing Jews was dead on! Here is my karmic combo to keep Jewish boys from getting crappy gifts like underwear and socks this year Extra coin for the dreaded the dreidel is a dreadel game Hillary delicious because the coins are chocolate with karma. Happy Hanukkah slaves guilt It's guilt of what it is. I tell you most too delicious to believe my friend You've got karma. Yeah, but people don't know that I'm an honorary Jew in New York

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1:34:04 Hey guys, could you give me some douchebag karma to the noodles kid with the hopes that he quits and owns his own noodles by now? I need to interject real quick with a clip since it's since noodles was brought up It's very it's a short clip To show you why we get these idiots like the noodles kid if you don't know who the noodles kid is then You need to go back and listen to episode 466. This is from a speech by a woman named Wendy mogul And she talks about the red washcloth in preschools. Have you heard of this phenomenon, John? Oh no! Listen... It also is hard work. Hazards make you wiser and more cautious There's a new trend in preschool to have red washcloths in the supply closet Anybody know about this? You do it I hope you don't have that at your schools Red washcloths why

1:34:59 If a child gets a bloody nose or skins their knee, the preschool teacher can grab the red washcloth really quickly so the child will not be frightened by sight of their own blood. No wonder we're building a nation of pussies! That's crazy. This woman is great by the way, she wrote the I think it's The Blessing of the Scraped Knee and The Blessing of the B-minus Very interesting speaker although she said...I think she's a Berkeley Hummer But this is actually true It's red washcloth so that kids don't freak out when there's some blood on the washcloth Unbelievable So talking about that sort of clip, I have a clip

1:35:52 So I didn't know that this clip existed. It was played by Sharpton on here, poor Sharpton he's losing his... He is so skinny now and when you see him side-by-side with everybody he looks like a midget. Well he is very tiny apparently! I didn't know that but with all of his weight loss he looks like a small dwarf because the head is still huge. He used to be huge people don't realize in the 80s Sharpton, he must have been 300 pounds. Yeah now he's like about 120. If! So apparently this was the viral video that got Elizabeth Warren her job and it's interesting because it's a Obama rant about you're all... It's a socialist rant is what it is but so this is what Massachusetts is all about that this could went around there which says I want her

1:36:45 Mrs. Elizabeth Warren video that got her the seat, okay? Hold on yeah as you threw me off with the Sharpton thing In a YouTube video that quickly went viral there is nobody in this country who got rich On his I remember this she's in someone's living room yelling this crap. Oh Yeah, nobody and if they're never it yeah factory out there, good for you. But I want to be clear you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers that the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fireforces that the rest of us paid for. You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea God bless keep

1:37:34 a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along." So why do you bring this up? I don't quite understand. I think this also contributes to the noodle-kid mentality, This kind of thing it's like... No! I think this is for big noodle kids This is for, no I think the noodle kids are something entirely different. They don't even know... I don't know. Hard time believing that. I think this is just your undercover Republican thing coming up again. Please!

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1:47:51 Vodka and vanilla gerbils and ginger ale and mutton and mead all for you here as knights and or dames, but in this case just Knights of the No Agenda Round Table. Great to have you here! This is something I've been putting off for a few shows and i want to get to it um... And uh... this is one of those things where we have disagreements Actually one of our One of our producers sent us a note to listen to the Joe Rogan show, which there's quite a big crossover between our audience. Episode 282 where they have a professor on from Berkeley

1:48:33 a German professor who pretty much has exactly, and I haven't even heard of this guy but i've read multiple books and many many studies has exactly the same hypotheses. And he actually is quite adamant that you do not get AIDS from HIV but than most people get really sick from essentially the medication you're given You have talked about this in the last number of shows. What do you mean, you've been putting it off? No no what I've been putting off is these two clips i have

1:49:09 Because what we're talking about is now the... so let's just presume that I think there's a lot of bullcrap going on in this industry and now we have this wonder drug Truvada which i believe is going to be pushed onto every single man woman and child as a must-have, just like you're taking your Flintstones vitamin C. And it's all part of a setup And so here is Lucifer Clinton who is again pushing the retroviral solution to the HIV virus which seems to be, well I'm not going to get into

1:49:48 You need to look at the House of Numbers as a documentary to understand where I'm coming from, but let's first listen to Lucifer Clinton. Then I want the next Congress, the next Secretary of State and our partners everywhere to know how we will contribute to achieving this goal And this is on World AIDS Day which was earlier last...I think Was it the beginning of the week? And the result is the blueprint we are releasing today. And the blueprint is very important, pay attention to this phrase, the blueprint It lays out five goals and many specific steps that we will take to accomplish those goals

1:50:26 First, we are committing to rapidly scaling up the most effective prevention and treatment interventions. This is a sales pitch for Truvada! I'm telling you this is a sales pitch she's setting everybody up for this And today I can announce some new numbers that show how far we've already come This year, through PEPFAR we directly supported nearly 5.1 million people on anti-retroviral treatment. And by the way that's the health industry applauding in the audience. Yeah! More drugs more drugs

1:51:07 So in Canada, they are already one step further in the blueprint. They're much further than we are Listen to this report about how they are rolling out Truvada and how awesome it is because basically Hey man if you're gay and want to go for it You're In Business! Day of World AIDS day Montreal AIDS researchers are looking to begin a controversial study It would give AIDS drugs to 400 men who don't actually have the disease but are at risk. Dan Halton joins us now with more and, Dan this is considered the next wave in a fight against AIDS And Debra it can come any sooner that's because as many as one quarter of people with HIV don't even know they have the deadly disease because they don't show any symptoms so for research... Very important you heard what he just said Anything that can boost prevention on top of condom use is critical

1:51:58 It's a troubling statistic. In Montreal gay community, 13% of men are HIV positive and that number hasn't budged despite all the advances in treatment and public awareness I am not satisfied with the status quo I am not satisfied with what exists right now. This is like Frau Goebbels who was going to do the test, she's not satisfied with the tests we have done? We need to do more tests! Because we're not moving forward this goal of achieving eradication of HIV transmission So researchers are now looking at antiretroviral drugs Not just to treat people who have HIV but to prevent people who don't have the virus from getting it

1:52:43 especially people at high risk, sex workers men who have multiple partners or whose partners are HIV positive. In the first study of its kind in North America Dr. Cecile Tremblay is testing the drug Truvada in a new way evaluating its effectiveness for prevention on demand instead of taking a pill. Every day for the rest to their lives people in this study will take it only when needed up to two hours before sex and one day after I don't want, I don't wanna interrupt you but this is exactly what you talked about when i was up in Port Angeles This is a rerun

1:53:19 We hadn't played these clips, we had not played these clips. I told... this is my point! I talked about this and now all of a sudden it's coming out It's like a red book comes true in two weeks. These clip came after you discussed? Yes! That's exactly my point! Okay, well that's the point You don't have to run that boring guy so long But that uh... oh okay well then in the red book you got a point please uh... i really uh... would like everyone that at take a listen to the joe rogan show episode two eighty-two is really really good to hear that uh... the berkeley doctor um and and what kind of what's your name was again named uh... do you think it is professor that guy who can we spend he said these are number one patient he's the first guy

1:54:14 from Dave, from the 1980s he's been at Berkeley ever since. 84. He is a yeah they are just around his I mean this guy I've heard him a million times he's not saying anything new he said this before he has been saying it since the 80s he is a retrovirus specialist that's his specialty period he knows more about retroviruses than anything and he makes the claim which nobody else seems to agree with. No one seems to be able to refute it, that's more important He makes the claim that retroviruses can't do this! he says if you create antibodies which is what the definition of zero positive

1:55:02 that then the virus is over, it's done. That AIDS is not caused by HIV that is what he saying and no one has been able to refute him and I might point out he still teaching in Berkeley It's not like they've thrown him out No they haven't thrown...I agree with that part but they haven't thrown out that crazy Japanese guy, there's about five crackpots at Berkeley by the way that haven't been thrown out. You just call them a crackpot? I'm just saying do you think in any realm of possibility could it be possible that the pharmaceutical industry has been playing a joke is that all feasible to you? The pharmaceutical industry is essentially corrupt

1:55:51 And do you think that they would stop for a second at killing people or allowing people to be killed? Or feeding people drugs... I wouldn't argue that these points are not arguable. I agree with you on this, but it doesn't mean that Duzman's right No, because he has none of his researches. I mean where why hasn't it led to anything his theories? I mean there's this whole thing unless you just know no You could say that all the pharmaceutical industries are behind everything and they Beat the crap out of you saying anything else but doozman's been talking freely for years Exactly and he lost all his grants He I mean he was in in line for a Nobel Peace Prize And not not peace price before a Nobel Prize

1:56:30 He got totally shunned. He has no graduate students, nothing! Now he talks about this in his interview is very good and if you want to find out some more background House of Numbers it's a I think its houseofnumbers.com that say it probably on YouTube because watch the whole documentary It's very very interesting You should take a look at it Yeah, well this has been a point of debate for the decade... two decades. Three decades almost three decades eight nineteen But now it's finally coming through and true and now we have this This wonder drug which stops you from getting AIDS HIV AIDS, which is always now lumped together in one word And I know it's like it's a money grab and we're all gonna be told we have to be on it From the age 5 to 65. You watch this is exactly what's going to happen

1:57:26 and i'd yeah and i'm getting angry about it i'm just saying that i have noticed what you mean viewing that me and rachel madhouse so what can I say? uh... I got a couple clips from parliament they had a um... You mean British Parliament? Yeah, the British Parliament. Not from the band oh The, uh... There's one guy. I swear to God he says butt boy when referring to Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Prime Minister Tell me it doesn't say butt boy

1:58:06 May I say, Mr Speaker? What a pity not to see the Honourable Member for Mid Bedfordshire in her place. Back from the jungle she may not have succeeded in talking for the nation on many things but she did speak for the nation when she called the Prime Minister and Chancellor two arrogant posh boys who don't know the price of milk. No wonder this Prime Minister keeps on losing his temper, Mr Speaker because his worst nightmare is coming true. Not snakes and spiders in the jungle but their fiscal rule broken, their economic credibility in tatters exposed now as incompetent and unfair Yes! He's a Chancellor Can't someone get him out of here?

1:59:03 I don't know if you said but boy. The only possibility is maybe he said bus boy? I'm thinking something like that, maybe They're talking about George Osborne who had a presentation and he is a real up-and-comer it looks like if you watch his TV speak Really?! Osborne... You think so? He's been around forever! He's a commie lefty and he was in the... I'm A Celebrity Get Me Outta Here That's what they were referring to with spiders in the jungle Really? I didn't know that. That was Osborne? That's funny! He's a blowhard. Well, he's a butt boy then. So talking about if you want to see somebody just lay into him though Mr Dennis Skinner just doesn't have any questions he just has nothing good to say at all about this guy

1:59:50 Mr Dennis Skinner. When the cheering has died down on the budget statement, just like on previous occasions like in 2010 when he made his first statement when it was strict bear it was a totally different story then in 2010 he promised to massively cut the deficit and here we are are two and a half years later is cut the nurses and cut the National Health Service. This posh boy never changes, now instead of being a bullied-um boy that wrecks the hotel rooms now as chance of the exchequer he wrecks the economy!

2:00:38 I'm not sure that personal attack warrants a proper reply. Mary McLeod That was incorrect, it was not Osborne that was Galloway and he was on Big Brother Oh Galloway okay I'm sorry my mistake So the thing I kind of liked about that clip is that apparently some guys on one of the side of the aisle they went, whoo! That's how we roll. This is all bullcrap though this just is this charade this whole Parliamentary yelling at each other. Chirag. Right on schedule All right can I just...I know you have some fiscal cliff stuff to talk about

2:01:23 I would just like to play one short clip and no, no. I'll give you my opinion first and then I'll have a guy prove that my opinion is right This whole conversation...I'm sure you've heard it everywhere in the world now America's on the fiscal cliff this whole thing is set up It's only about who is going to get blamed. Taxes are going up for everybody, there is going to be no comprehensive deal we're gonna get shafted both sides in America know it, its planned, it is our version of austerity except instead like in Europe

2:02:02 where the government stands up and says, well slaves we're going to have to austere you. Here they go oh those guys are doing it no those guys are doing it so instead of going out there and protesting our government and telling them that they're all a bunch of douchebags for selling us down the river we play along with this game of who's to blame, whether it's the right or the left. And here is Howard Dean, guy on the left saying exactly that. It was just nothing could be more clear than this administration means what they say about getting what they want at this point Yeah, the only problem is and this is a little initially going to seem like heresy from our progressives. The truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes not just the rich that's a good start but we're not gonna get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across-the-board it could go back to what Bill Clinton had in his taxes and if we don't do that

2:02:58 the problem is, the pressure's gonna be on spending even more. So that is exactly what's going to happen and it's all going to be hidden under... And then we're just gonna go like oh well they couldn't work it out yeah it's all over, they couldn't work it out I'm all in on this concept that its gonna happen one way or another and right now though the White House has it all on their side because if we go over the cliff taxes go up If we don't go over the cliff you have to make some sort of a deal with Obama which means taxes go up so tax are going up but the kind of taxes that are gonna go up going over the cliff or they annoy are more annoying than they did whatever obama's proposed as a bomb it can fix a little bit tries to make it look good but we have this thing called the alternative minimum-tax explain that

2:03:42 which comes into play every so often and it's like a thing that they pulled the stunt. I didn't realize that until i heard this lecture from this professor on C-SPAN discussing how they slipped this thing back into play in 2002, and there was the budget balancer for the bogus as turns out Bush tax cuts Because the Bush tax cuts look good on paper and they keep talking about the Bush tax cuts, but with the alternative minimum tax in play which is a horrible thing. I've paid it a number of times It is a major screw job to the middleman. Now when do you have...I don't understand When do you have to pay? What did you do that you had to pay an alternative minimum tax? Okay, we typically... Do you not make enough or how does that work? You know if you make a certain amount of money there's a little moment where you have to do a recalculation on your taxes

2:04:32 If you make some right now, the alternative minimum tax I think kicks in at something over 250-300 thousand. It's a bloody high! Well no worries here when did you pay that? I paid it when...I've made that much really but i've not with me honey No, that's true Ever since you've been with me its been bad sailing working on it I lost it all.

2:05:17 Yeah, well fine. But if you were in the United States making that money you'd be paying the alternative minimum tax. No! The reason why I lost it all is because I didn't file in the United States and they came and they sued me and took all my money away Well welcome to the United States So alterative minimum tax essentially recalculates your tax but takes away all your standard deductions So essentially it says, here's the same take the same money that you made and just extract all the standard deductions mortgages everything and make the calculation again. Oh no is it higher than the other number? Well then you have to pay this so there isn't here's the a which is alternative minimum tax and everybody's going to get stuck with us and it looks as if the alternative minimum tax the way its set up now If we go over the cliff is gonna drop anyone who makes less than $70,000

2:06:07 Oh. Or around 70,000 or around there is going to increase the number of people who pay the alternative minimum tax in 2011 from 4 million to 30 million people It's a huge money grab and it is not discussed by either party. Neither party has discussed this, and that what makes me think that both parties are in collusion to screw us! And if we go over the cliff or not over the cliff we're going get screwed because nobody is discussing it now here's the professor with a little bit of the AMT rundown that was discussed on C-SPAN The alternative minimum tax is 28 percent so what you're saying after 2001 if your tax rate

2:06:48 was lowered to 25 percent or something, you still had to pay the AMT which is 28%. That's correct but your wrong. For incomes between $200 and 500 thousand dollars the AMT effective tax rate is 35 percent so you hit that thirty five percent rate in the AMT at incomes far lower than the income levels at which you would hit the 35% rate in the regular tax. There's this bizarre rate structure. Why do they call it a patch? They call it a patch because its an ad hoc, one time year by year

2:07:31 patch to stop the broad expansion of the AMT. It's just for... You could ask why do they call it a cliff? They have discussed this in terms of the patch, and it's been up year by year increase in the exemption that the patch is nothing but an increase in the AMT exemption to prevent tens of millions of people from being forced to fill out the return that you have listed there. The only thing I would add is the patch, what makes this so critical in the fiscal cliff discussion is we are talking about a patch for the 2012 taxable year unlike the rest of the fiscal cliff which affects tax rates that will apply next year

2:08:26 the patch applies to the return that we will all have to file early next year. So if there is not congressional action here, there is an abrupt increase in tax on the 2012 taxable year under... In 2011 approximately 4 million people paid the AMT. If there's not a patch 30 million people will be required to pay the AMT in 2012 for the current taxable year. Okay, so here's the problem... You can stop it, you get kind of the idea The problem is that if we take one day into past January 1st and then say oh well fix it tomorrow It won't make any difference its already done

2:09:18 Yeah, because this applies to 2012. If we go past January 1st and you fix the whole fiscal cliff thing after the fact it doesn't make any difference because once January first hits then everything's in play for the IRS and the tax year And that means we're gonna all be paying this ridiculous high rate of tax 35% over whatever you're paying now generally speaking almost probably half the audience that listens to this show will be caught in this 30 million dollar or thirty million person quagmire You probably too, and you're not going to notice until we see what happened to my taxes. And this is a complete outrageous scam that zero people are discussing I mean I knew about it kind of but then when i heard this guy's boring let's face it but he did lecture for hours on this thing and he had other things to say about

2:10:09 it changes the way if you get on the AMT, it changes the way to take capital gains. It changes everything! You are so screwed If they don't fix this fiscal cliff thing that its gonna be unbelievable as a scam of the highest order. So the reason why I don't hear about this is indeed because it's incredibly boring and people don't understand it and obviously news media doesn't understand but more importantly you gotta sex it up How about let's try this. Hey we're going over the fist of Cliff everybody with the AMT! See that gets your attention now I'm excited about this AMT. I should have done a sweetened clip by the way, I would like to point out that before we started this show

2:11:01 The IRS came after me for $143,000. It took me years! They put a lien on everything I own and my salary at MeVEO Everything. I literally did not earn any money for two years I finally was able to resolve it, $40,000. This is where all my money went. $40,000 in legal fees and to this day it stays on your record a tax lien for seven years. Do you know what my credit score is? Which I evaluated because I wanted to get a car loan. You know what my credit score is? 320! I can't borrow enough money to buy an egg

2:11:41 When I was a kid they didn't have credit scores. People took, you know... You went in and visited and they said well this is good guy we'll loan him some money This credit score thing is a total scam And what they all said? They all said you don't have enough trade lines What does that mean? Well you haven't borrowed enough money So I haven't borrowed any money or anybody anything! I just want to buy my wife a nice car and I can't afford it right now and I'll buy down the never-never And at least I'll buy it, i don't want to lease it. No! Sorry you know you can do that... Shut up Wayne! No no you have a credit score of 320 and what's this? Oh no this thing is on your record for you know maybe in two years when its gone when it's not on your record then maybe but you have to have some more trade lines so you should go get a Pier 1 card seriously

2:12:33 I hope you like your range. Well, welcome. I'm getting stink eye into the world that we're welcome to the world of high finance. So there you go. You have it? Maybe maybe it will be Oh, actually I got a one short clip on the fiscal clip taken from the long seven minute clip which we're not going to play. Because it's Mitch McConnell but i think Mitch McConnell has a little summary here that or at least there is something I put...I decided to cut it which is McConnell on the fiscal cliff short version. It's eight minutes! Oh short version? Not that one. That's Mitch McConnell on Fiscal Cliff Long End of Show Clip Is this gonna be interesting? Is this gonna be any good? It's only 30 seconds just play it

2:13:23 Okay, that was McConnell on the fiscal cliff. Oh man I had the perfect mix! Yeah you did...I thought you were just gonna stop it there Noooo I'm not some kind of a-hole...unless they want to do it again here Incredibly many top Democrats including the President seem perfectly happy Perfectly happy To go off the cliff That's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. Blah blah blah, they don't care They do not care. They just want to suck you dry Take all of your money and by the way Europe same thing for you except only here. Well can I ask you a question? Let me ask that let me ask you something Yeah Why do so many people in the public itself including those A-holes on MSNBC

2:14:13 that go on and on about it, and this was actually discussed in some other show I saw. In California for example we had Proposition 30 this last election and the proposition essentially said do you want to pay more state taxes? And did people say yes? It passed! What past people said yes Yes, it passed proposition 30 California pass John get out. It's a shell while you can get out come to Texas But yeah now but this is this is all over the country people saying yeah Yeah tax me more tax me more Obama wants more taxes. Yeah well let's give it to him what you know I don't get it Wow so you have to explain it to me well? I can't

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2:15:46 And now, back to the real news. Of course the number one news the most important news in the entire universe is Kate is puking and everyone's talking about it but here's how bad it really is. Day three of what's becoming perhaps the most talked-about pregnancy since Bethlehem Really? Is that what it is? The most talked about pregnancy since Bethlehem Brother no wonder we are So, Hillary gave some speech recently and they had a tribute to her great performance as the Secretary of State for all her accomplishments. What were they by the way? I don't know... Hold on! We have one of our accomplishments right here. That is the land of unconfirmed videos. We came we saw you died

2:16:48 uh... that's not a very good so they've made a movie i hate geography about hillary justice did with the last clip of it and you could only get all thing in this goes on and on with her but they do return new theme song she's already running for president right human dignity more countries may have the same extraordinary fortune and when you smile... someone who knows a thing or two about political comeback I can tell you, i don't think we've read the last of Hillary Clinton. cause girl your amazing oh man! im gonna throw up wait was this video someone cut for her? yeah! girl your amazing just through- oh oh oh oh throwing up! i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come

2:17:49 streaming now the washington post philip rucker and jonathan k part johnson that's there's nothing campaign like about that video at all is it no come on she's leaving her to turn her term as secretary of state and she's arguably then one of the best invest that uh... that we've had in a while sees loved by you know lotsa people around the world particularly foreign leaders and so there she is at this forum filled with with friends hers and so there's a tribute video for her saying you know job well done, your terrific. And just a couple people saying oh who knows what's next for her? Well of course who knows whats next for her because she is a young woman whose gonna hopefully take some time off put her feet up

2:18:32 and relax for a little bit before entertaining ideas about 2016 when we're still in 2012. She's an old hag! She's a young woman is the new meme! She is saying that of October this year she collects Social Security What kind of young woman is 66 years old collecting social security? Young woman?! I'm not gonna be ageist about it because its not about age He's just a hag to me, no matter what. She could be 20 she is a hag! No it's not about age but you don't call somebody...you know..a young woman who is 66 It just....it's wrong! It's so wrong!! It's just not right we can do that by the way good news John Good news We've just got a message here from John Leonard From Wichita Kansas one of our supporters on the show

2:19:28 he says he will finance me for a dune buggy golf cart regardless of my credit score. Mickey, you're going to look great riding around Austin. Here I come! Look out! What's that? A pink one? So while you're moaning about the Hillary song, play the latest hot song which is going to be all over the place. Sing for The Climate! What?! No... It's a clip, hit it! And we need to start crying now. We need to live in a better future and we need to start crying

2:20:23 Okay Sing for the climate.com Yes, five percent of the Belgian population came out into the streets and sang this song today at the Doha summit we went to a news conference where major climate negotiators from everyone's singing the song European Union Union sang this song as well. Oh, okay! We need... there must be a music video? There must be right? Yeah yeah it's on Sync's Song for the Climate and its the same lyrics its we need to build a better future and we need to start right now that's basically the whole lyrics in the whole thing. It sounds like some sort of Russian marching tune Well now I want our own Sing for the Climate song. We can do better than that I mean come on that sucks this is the problem why does all when you wanna communicate something... Hello

2:21:16 Curry Dvorak consulting group dot-com people what is wrong with you? You're not gonna get some babushka song when you want to like get the kids hip to something if you want to indoctrinate People with your agenda 21 call us. Okay, call us we'll get Kevin Reeves on it You know will get some dudes who know how to write a song that blows You know I'm saying I mean, you know when when you wanna... Play another little piece of it. It's catchy! No no this is the kind of thing you want something like this You want like This is what you want Naturally something you can sing along to Not like some babushka track Stupid Beatlesy It's not Beatles I love how people think that-I don't know if that's Gilbert O'Sullivan and they'll say hey man This is the song John doesn't think is The Beatles

2:22:09 No, okay. Let's see let me... Oh yes on agenda 21 then NOAA the National Oceanographic Architectural A-hole Institute what does the NOAA stand for? National Oceanographic Atmospheric Administration or something like that. So they're even saying, yes 2012 was an active hurricane year but not exceptionally so we've had 10 busier years in the last three decades So remember all the reporting on the last show that we did? Yeah, it's ridiculous. And then Sir Dave sent me a nice note he says now remember when you were listening to the iceberg footage of the iceberg crapping apart and it sounded like a roller coaster?

2:23:01 So he says, the iceberg footage you saw is stock footage. What happens is large cruise ships every year pull up to the interglacial areas and wait for pieces of the ice to break off it's called the Calvet Cat Cafe It's a big tourist thing and everyone goes there because it happens every single year. Of course, no I spent going on for decades But but that's what the cheering was it was stock footage of tourists? Oh, that's what this noise So we thought it was like you know like people go oh We're all gonna die from global warming but is really just some stock footage someone jammed in there and they left the sound up of The tourists all screaming from this cruise ship This is how stupid ABC News is

2:23:46 Well, yes. So I got just one little short clip you know my wife is Mimi Yes and you know how do you spell Mimi? I would say M-I-M-I Right well there's a it's on the screen it sits he's reading a tweet from some woman named Mimi and he uh... it but some this is so many i think then you can see how close the he has much mouth sharpton haha and i couldn't get a really good stuff i did get this this his pronunciation of me me is quite unique she loves the president to seal on the cover of that love laptop

2:24:29 I agree, Mimi. We've got more on Speaker Boehner's offer coming up next with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders but first we want to hear what you think! Mimi? Mimi. Mimi? Mimi. Mimi. The guy is an idiot. Alright...I've had it. I literally cannot go anymore I'm tired. I think you should go to bed Well, now i gotta post produce the show, pull out all the crap where we were rolling around fixing Skype and everything Then I've got to upload it Then! It'll be up for a while Yeah yeah Then and only then And then tomorrow we have to find a place to live And Sunday will do another show

2:25:19 All right! But we will have news here from the lowland, so I am kind of excited about that. You know although it's weird not being home It's weird closing up the place saying okay goodbye home Not sure when we'll be back as we are on the lam and on the run from the authorities Janet Napolitano under siege That sounds scary enough? Yeah it's close. I'd have to sweeten it Anyway, thanks everybody for bearing with us today and we will bear witness with you on Sunday. Coming to you from Amsterdam in Gitmo Nation lowlands for now! Who knows what will be soon?

2:26:04 I'm Adam Curry. I am looking forward to getting the broadcast done out of a teepee on a deserted island near the Holland... channel. I am in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Sunday right here on NO Agenda. The best podcast in the universe! dvorak dot org slash n-a