Episode 451 · Thursday, 11 October 2012

Mass of Tax Nuts

A shifting Benghazi narrative collides with Supreme Court rulings on surveillance immunity while the medical establishment begins prescribing synthetic stimulants to children in failing schools.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 451

About this episode

The Obama administration faces intense scrutiny as a shifting narrative regarding the September 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, moves from a spontaneous protest to a coordinated Al-Qaeda assault. Representative Darrell Issa and Representative Jason Chaffetz lead a House Oversight Committee hearing revealing that the State Department and FBI possess video evidence contradicting the initial White House claims. Pat Smith, mother of Information Officer Sean Smith, publicly challenges Susan Rice and Leon Panetta over the lack of transparency regarding the tragedy.

Legal and corporate maneuvers dominate the domestic landscape as the U.S. Supreme Court declines to hear challenges to telecommunications immunity, effectively shielding companies involved in warrantless wiretapping. Meanwhile, a technical flaw in Apple iOS 6 causes massive cellular data overages, and the UK is rocked by the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal involving the BBC and potential elite pedophile rings at Haut de la Garenne. In the technology sector, a congressional committee advises American firms to avoid Huawei and ZTE, citing national security risks that critics suggest are fueled by Cisco lobbying.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the fifth anniversary of the program by conducting a formal knighthood ceremony for top-tier producers Michael Klink and Rick Bressler. The hosts examine the medicalization of poverty following reports of pediatricians prescribing Adderall to low-income students to compensate for failing school environments. The session concludes with a look at Gary Johnson's antitrust lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates and his proposal for a federal consumption tax.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 451 Introduction and Red Book Anecdote

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 451 of the No Agenda podcast on October 11, 2012, from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak introduces a new "red book" for show notes, noting it was a promotional item from Memjet, a printing technology company. The hosts discuss the speed of Memjet's "waterfall" printing technology and their tendency to "front-run" mainstream news cycles by approximately one month.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· memjet· red book· austin texas· silicon valley

00:00 That's our slogan for today, John. Eventually everyone gets tased. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday October 11th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 451! This is no agenda That's right, 10 11 12 the magical 33 on the best podcast in the universe from the capital of the drone star state Austin Texas and morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where i am opening a new red book! I'm John C Dvorak Are you telling me that people in Berkeley blow their nose into their sleeve? Yes what they do No Yeah especially the Berkeley City Council

00:45 That's an expression I'm not familiar with obviously. But Berkeley City Council? No, blowing your nose on your sleeve! Well you know that ever since I stopped smoking which and we're now we are now into...I don't know week six I don't have a drippy nose anymore. I might have to blow my nose once in the morning just you know, just clear it all up. In the morning? Yeah only in the morning! In the morning to you Adam Curry and all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air and subs in the water and all the knights out there I want to wish them well. Yeah yeah in the morning to you too John C. Dvorak and everybody else who's tuning in live to The Best Podcasts in The Universe oh thank you so much love Ms. Mickey always

01:26 You don't have to do the whole bowing thing, though. That's a little much I kind of like it though Could you wear skirt next time? Bim sala bim! Bim sala bim! Thanks, Lowell Yes hello to all the human resources in the chat room. You know what you can do with yourself Good to see y'all charged up and ready to go My name is Adam He's John we are citizens of Gitmo Nation And were just as effed as the rest of ya Hey now So i got a new red book and I want to tell you that I got a little anecdote here So the red books, people want you know they've got them on my third but this will be my last one of this model unless I can get a hold of Memjet. It turns out these red books were given away at a trade show and i grabbed three of them And that's it? We've already filled one or two? Two

02:15 Wow. This is the third one and it's Memjet. It's Memjets company, look at they have little flyers trapped around this book 3000 patents Memjet is transforming color printing You have to see it to believe it Memjet, I don't know if they have any more of these books at mem jet. Hey They got a video on their site hold on let's take a look at what they got on their video Yeah, men jet printing technology over hard to believe that printer technology hasn't changed in 20 years yeah Have you seen a 3d printer recently no evolution? No breakthroughs? Oh, no Eureka moment oh It's time for a change. Uh-oh! Introducing printers powered by Memjet patented waterfall technology. Eughh! The paper moves under the printhead and it... Okay, well alright so that's Memjet. What? Does the paper move under all the printheads? Covered in ink from edge to edge in just one pass

03:07 Yes, this is real-time printing you're seeing. It's kind of cool it looks like a newspaper that's rolling through and doesn't stop just goes in one go. So it just drops crap on it? I should look into this! Yeah you should alright so Memjet I guess they don't make the red book anymore. I don't know where they got them obviously had its embossed outside the book it says mem jet think fast But I suspect they were bought as a premium for one of the trade shows. Oh, they were just a premium? Wait a minute! If you go to noagenination.com they have red books there for sale! I should get some of those. Maybe you'll get a discount if you ask Eric nicely... Yeah

03:48 Did you want to put something good for about three months? We're gonna put something into the red book or did you have something I start off by putting the date yes, and then I take notes during the show mm-hmm and And write down any predictions that either one of us make and how have we done on our previous two books? We've probably where I noticed that what we do which i think is a drawback as we are like what's it called, front-running. We're front running the news by about a month. A month yeah I agree and then about a month later the news that we reported a month earlier starts to crop up in the mainstream media and so we probably should be more redundant kind of remention once in awhile what we've talked before well let's do just that now so he was in fact exactly a month ago on September 11th I believe it was the day after September 11 when we had a program

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

Benghazi Attack Narrative Shift and Media Complicity

The discussion focuses on the changing official narrative regarding the September 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. A montage highlights the transition from blaming a "hateful video" to admitting the event was a coordinated terrorist attack involving Al-Qaeda. The hosts argue that the initial focus on spontaneous protests was a psychological operation and a cover-up by the Obama administration to protect a specific election-year narrative.

benghazi· hillary clinton· barack obama· susan rice· al-qaeda· heritage foundation· libya

04:42 broadcast and we said hey that Muslim video thing is bullcrap. That's not what this is about and have you noticed as everyone has shifted from it was outrage an anger over a very bad piece of film with very bad actors Particularly our US president and the administration were swearing that's what it was about. As they have moved to, well yeah of course this was a terrorist attack! Have you noticed that around the world no one is protesting the video anymore?

05:21 It's the magic! So we should bring you back to say the mainstream media is so complicit that they either went, oh yeah we gotta like get some shots of people and roll some b-roll and say there's protests everywhere. I mean you have to remember there were protests all around the world! They're gone all of a sudden or We had the techno experts of the State Department handing out signs and riling people up. And you know, and of course you still have a crop shot where you have like three, 30 people it looks like 3000 but it is all one big psychological operation against you. Please remember that this was... The end was nigh! Oh the Muslims are so angry about the video now It's just all over

06:11 I've said, you know...I still haven't even seen the video and i don't think very few people have. No well we played bits of the audio even which no one else has done no one has seen it and we played the audio where he's like you know um hey was Mohammed a homosexual? Yes! I think that Mohammed was a pedophile so I have here a very nice piece of uh video which is it's a montage but I think the audio speaks for itself that I found. I didn't put this together, but i liked it so much and want to play this This is the timeline starting from the moment that this horrific video caused the death of four American citizens all the way to current day where well this is a terrorist attack! So why don't we listen to this? So we can recall how you were right on the money one month ago as usual

07:05 On the anniversary of the 9-11 attacks, Americans and American symbols in two Arab countries tonight are under attack by radical Islamist forces. And someone at the American consulate in Benghazi is dead unclear... We're not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on a U.S mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent this is not a case protests directed at the United States. It began spontaneously We've seen rage and violence directed at American embassies sparked by this hateful video over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with Protests that arose because of the outrage over the video This video is disgusting Disgusting and reprehensible where there is an offensive video or cartoon There was a

07:55 a hateful video. This is in response to a video that is offensive, you don't really believe that? Of course absolutely I believe that because in fact it's the case they weren't there demonstrate about some obscure film as Leopold said was obviously terrorist attack The government they're saying that they had warned United States about the situation in Benghazi and that it was deteriorating days before the attack were warnings about insufficiency Benghazi. Chris Stevens was the first US ambassador killed in more than 30 years. In the months before his death he talked about being worried about the never-ending security threats I don't know how you argue we weren't caught flat footed specifically about the rise of Islamic extremism and growing Al Qaeda presence it leads to questions does it make any sense to you that level up or that small level security he apparently had with him? The White House story crumbling! I would say yes, they were

08:47 killed in the course of a terrorist attack. Hillary Clinton admitted that Al-Qaeda was involved it wasn't just a mob action he said it is self evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack US officials knew within 24 hours that this was an organized al Qaeda attack which said the U.S government knew about Al-Qaeda's involvement within 24 hours of the attack. In the intelligence community, those who within the first 24 hours were saying this was a terrorist attack. Why did Ambassador Rice give the American people bad information? There is more proof that this was all part of an elaborate cover up by the administration It's either gross incompetence and negligence or in fact they are lying The President has a big investment in the narrative that not only is Osama dead but al Qaeda is finished And some of these militias

09:36 affiliated with al-qaeda. Al Qaedas very much alive here that al-Qaeda is alive and well, Bin Laden dead, Al Qaeda alive! I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road Did you catch the meme in there where they went to president's trying to stick with the narrative that Osama bin Laden is dead? Yeah, dead. As if he's not! Well who knows?! I mean what is the message there? So that was put together by... You stole that from somebody. No I said-I told ya it was at The Heritage Foundation of course a total right wing. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Of course hey well we're Where were they a month ago

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

House Oversight Committee Hearing on Benghazi Security

Representative Darrell Issa and Representative Jason Chaffetz lead a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing regarding the Benghazi attacks. Testimony reveals that the State Department and FBI possess video evidence showing there was no protest prior to the assault. The hosts suggest the attack may have been related to a CIA weapons depot operation intended to move arms from Libya to Syria.

jason chaffetz· darrell issa· house oversight committee· state department· benghazi· cia

10:18 Oh yeah, no of course. They were nowhere now but here's what was interesting yesterday there was a almost five hour hearing on the hill it was did you watch it? I watched part of it ICE says and then what is our favorite Chavits so I have those two guys I have a clip from each really the ICE opening Set the stage for the whole thing and it's only like 30 seconds in do you know exactly that the whole thing is bullcrap? And he actually teased such a shill. I mean, they're all a-holes all of them contrary to early assertions by the administration Let's understand there was no protest and cameras

10:59 reveal that and the State Department, the FBI and others have that video. Okay so they actually have video showing that it was not a protest but they have a video of the attackers and this is opening the first 30 seconds of this hearing So you know there's just going to be a bunch of back-and-forth tit for tat Speaking of video the one in California made by an individual and out there for a period of time also clearly had no direct effect on this attack. In fact, it was September 11th, the eleventh anniversary

11:39 of the greatest terrorist attack. You see this is where he's like, oh really now you're gonna pull this? You a-hole! U.S history in New York Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon it was that anniversary that caused an organization aligned with Al Qaeda to attack and kill our personnel so he's telling us the outcome of what The Five Hours is going to be by the way there was organization allied with the LK what's the name of these guys? CIA. What was the name of this organization I think the organizations name is CIA that's uh, that's who they're called and it's we'll go back to our original premise which which is what we've

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Jason Chaffetz Point of Order on Classified Aerial Photos

During the Benghazi hearing, Representative Jason Chaffetz raises a point of order regarding aerial photographs of the consulate compound displayed by the State Department. Chaffetz expresses concern that the images reveal classified sources and methods, while State Department officials maintain the images are unclassified and publicly available. The hosts speculate that Chaffetz's reaction stems from his knowledge of a sensitive weapons recovery mission in Libya.

jason chaffetz· state department· classified information· libya· aerial photography· oversight committee

12:17 Considered the possibility which was at the October surprise being the kidnapping. Yes a scenario that backfired Yeah, and blew up in their face And then that's why if you remember they're dead one month ago The early shots of Hillary looking so steamed I've never she looks like she was chewing nails So interestingly enough our buddy Shaffetz There was only one thing I found interesting throughout the entire hearing. And there was a lot of, you know like we were asking for security and we didn't get security. State Department bad... It's just all back and forth. Of course the Republicans there were doing their usual, why did the administration lie?

12:56 Liar, liar. Like okay we get it but something but so you gotta listen to Rush Limbaugh on these guys hilarious. We know they're all liars come on it's like duh but yeah well they're all covering up something but something happened when a woman from the State Department who looked a bit like Christy Romer by the way and she had the same mannerisms and way of talking which is just it's Excruciating to see through that you yeah, but of course So she has an easel

13:38 And she has aerial shots of the compound, and then she switches to another aerial shot. And then Chaffetz just freaks out. "...and on the street outside the compound." But we're able to make their way to the annex. Point of order, point of order. The gentlelady will suspend... Gentleman will state his point of order? Mr Chairman I'm concerned that were getting into classified issues that deal with sources and methods it would be totally inappropriate in an open forum such as this. It's like everyone is like What's your problem? The gentlelady, Miss Lamb. Mr Kennedy. Is it your intent to declassify any or all material in Miss Lamb's statement? Mr Chairman, Mr Chaffetz the information that we are presenting today in open session is entirely unclassified. Mr Chairman I totally object to the use of that photo

14:39 So this is, I'm like wow this is interesting. What does it all mean? And you can't see what it is It just looks like a Google Earth shot of...I don't know Just an area and now what's going on? The general state has reasoned I believe that to be classified information that goes to sources in methods should not be disseminated in the public manner such as State is doing here today Mr Chairman Ranking Member I was wondering These are there's that a hole people from the State Department. They apparently have clearance to show this information name again

15:17 Yeah, that guy. The old bald guy? What's his name? I assume they wouldn't come here unless it was cleared so... He is just a stooge for Obama. For anybody! Anyone who will pay him he is a stooge. Ambassador, its your statement that these either are now declassified or you are declassifying them at this hearing Is that correct? In other words, is this clear through your channels to be given her today This information is available, sir for public dissemination. Yes sir. Okay you can Google it. The gentleman... You can google this! ...point of order although noted uh... But Shaffetz is pissed and I think I know why but let's just listen to his final statement. What committee is this again?

16:04 Oh, is this the Homeland Secur- no um... I can look it up. Subcommittee on Crime Terrorism and Homeland Security? Chavis is on that he's on five or six he's on the committee of the budget the judiciary subcommittee on crime terrorism subcommittee on intellectual property federal workers national security homeland defense and foreign operations where he's chairman. He is not chairman of this one. No, no ISA is a... Yes so there has got to be crime terrorism in homeland security I'm guessing? I have it here in the show notes just give me second its uh... because I have to look at on C-SPAN well let us listen to Sheffitz and all I'll look up now exactly what committee this is It is the prerogative of the executive branch to determine what is not classified

16:52 The one thing I would note, my able staff has compared last night's press conference and the opening statement of Ms. Lamb and it appears as though her opening statement should have been given to us last night since it was obviously the one given to the press. We'll reset... Yes, the gentleman was raised by... Can I make one more comment? While I was in Libya, I could not and should not ever talk about what you're showing here today. So I think first of all it's the House Committee of Oversight and Government Reform that's what it was so What do you think when you hear him say that? Hold on a second let me just looking at the who is on it committee member Yeah This is it because ICE is determined to that yeah And they got your talking about see there Elijah Cummings the Maryland Elijah Cummings yes the Maryland guy uh

17:46 I think he's irked and bringing, just my theory. Now you can tell me what you think because i'm sure probably when you picked it for a reason but I am guessing that Chavis was reprimanded for discussing or having anything to do with one of these something similar a photo or something where he was discussing something with someone in the State Department and then they jumped all over him and said you can never talk about that ever and the rest your life even mention that we have a building here. Or something like that, and all he's doing now is making a big fuss to draw attention to the fact that these guys are A-holes That would be my off-the-cuff guess So I am listening

18:23 There's more of what he says later on which I didn't clip, which isn't all that interesting. No, he was in Libya and he was told specifically first rule about this is you can never ever talk about this because it's the weapons depot John. Oh right, well yeah we discussed this on the show. Yes it's the C- That's why they went there is to get some of the weapons, to recover some of the weapons It was blowing CIAs cover on a Weapons Depot which is the whole reason why this thing has been covered up because these are the weapons as far as I'm concerned that we put in there to help the so-called Libyan Free Weapons Library. You can check out weapons, but you gotta check them back in! Yeah exactly! But the reason why is because they need to be checked over to Syria, see? Because they've got people over there who want to borrow em'. And this literally just a Fast and Furious 2 what's going on with bigger guns.

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

Jay Carney Questioned by Jake Tapper on Benghazi

ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper challenges White House Press Secretary Jay Carney regarding President Obama's previous criticism of Mitt Romney. Tapper asks if the administration "shot first and aimed later" by blaming a video for the Benghazi attack despite a lack of evidence for protests at that location. Carney responds by reading a prepared statement emphasizing the intelligence community's initial assessment of spontaneous demonstrations in Cairo.

jay carney· jake tapper· abc news· white house· benghazi· mitt romney

19:21 Something funny happens at the, you know how I love watching the White House and the State Department press conferences. So Jake Tapper who he's with ABC isn't he? Jake Tapper I believe he might be, yeah. He's off the reservation! Yeah, I know it was pretty funny. Did you see? Well he's hurt about something... maybe..I don't know. So here is... let me just make sure what network he is with. ABC News Washington Correspondent. So here he is nailing spokeshole Carney about this whole kerfuffle. President Obama shortly after the attack told

20:02 60 minutes that regarding Mitt Romney's response to the attacks specifically in Egypt, the President said that Romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later. Given the fact that so much was made out of the video, uh...that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack on Benghazi. There wasn't even a protest outside the Benghazi post didn't President Obama shoot first and aim later? So this is a very good point! This is great question. It's a great point and this IS the definition of a great question Now listen to Carney you can hear it its very interesting You don't have to see the video to hear what's going on He says

20:43 He's gonna try and get in there, and then he all of a sudden. He has to read the legal statement from his pad Which he then reads very quickly it's it's almost like a disclaimer on on a drug ad or a car ad actually First of all, Jake I think your assessment about what we know now is not complete. But I would simply say that the... Of course not! Because I'm just going by what the State Department said yesterday. There is no question that in the region including in Cairo there were demonstrations reacting to the release of that video. And I will leave it to those who are testifying on the Hill as they are... Yesterday there was no protest, that's not what you said though? I'm talking about in Benghazi. Right. I am not disputing that there was a protest but what we said at the time is our intelligence community assessed that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo.

21:41 It's like it's like that's the line you got to read it exactly like that otherwise you could get into trouble with the law And then the best and I think so CNN there's something going on with CNN in all of this because they claim To have found a notebook Belonging we talked about this belonging to the ambassador, which you know This was only discussed briefly there were a couple of pages in it and in this notebook apparently The Ambassador Stevens had written. Hey, you know I'm on the hit list You know we need more security They're out to get me that's a I'm paraphrasing because we don't really have never really seen it CNN only claims to have it and that they wanted to give it back to Stevens family

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

Pat Smith Criticizes Administration Response on CNN

Pat Smith, the mother of Information Officer Sean Smith (known as "Vile Rat" in the EVE Online community), appears on CNN with Anderson Cooper to criticize the Obama administration. She alleges that Susan Rice, Leon Panetta, and President Obama provided her with false information regarding her son's death. Smith describes her frustration with the lack of transparency and the administration's insistence that the attack was caused by a YouTube video.

pat smith· sean smith· anderson cooper· cnn· susan rice· leon panetta· barack obama

22:29 So, they are now in... there's something going on between CNN and the administration because last night and I just caught this off chance on a repeat of Anderson Pooper's program. He had on the mother of The Vile Rat. Remember the guy who was in the, uh... In the Eve chat room of the game? He was playing the game when they came. Right! The guy who's playing the game where all hell broke loose Yeah and his name is Vile Rat And she is... It's a game name of course. Well yes, and she is pissed and what she said about our administration individually about the members to me was mind-boggling! I still don't know in fact today I just heard something more that he died of smoke inhalation So you don't even know that? No I don't

23:26 I don't know where. I look at TV and see bloody hand prints on walls thinking, my God is that my son's? I don't know if he was shot...I don't know! They haven't told me anything they're still studying it and the things that they are telling me are just outright lies That Susan Rice she talked to me personally and she said this is the way it was it was because of this film that came out. So she told you personally that she thought it was a result of the video, that protest? Oh absolutely! Absolutely in fact all of them did. All of them did Leon Panetta actually took my face and his hands like this and he says trust me I will tell you what happened and so far he's told me nothing nothing at all

24:30 I want to know. It's important for you to know all the details no matter how hard or tough they are here? Exactly, if it is such a secret thing fine take me in another room whisper in my ear what happened so that I know and we'll go from there but no they treat me like at first I was so proud because they were treating me so nice when I went to that reception. They all came up to me and talked to me and everything, I cried on Obama's shoulder! And then he kind of looked off into the distance... So that was worthless to me." I'm like WOW! Wow! Clip Of The Day hit it! Thank you thank you how kind of you! And I gotta give props to Anderson Pooper for pulling that out of her

25:24 Wow, and that is death makes Anderson Cooper worth watching once in a while. But you're right This is something they would normally never play how there's some things up between CNN and the administration They obviously got cut out of some meeting I haven't yeah oh Yeah, no There's a huge row I know there's a row going on but for them to stay on it like this is so uncharacteristic Of CNN but just the image of Leon Panetta taking this poor woman's face in his hands and going trust me Wow! And her crying on Obama, seeing him roll his eyes basically. How evil are these people? I'm very happy that we can bring this all together for you here on the best podcast in the universe We are just citizens like you except twice a week we go to bed and we assassinate the media

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

Speculation on Jay Carney and the Innocence of Muslims Video

The hosts speculate that White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, a former Time Magazine editor, may have been the architect of the narrative blaming the "Innocence of Muslims" video for the Benghazi attacks. They suggest the video was a pre-existing intelligence asset kept "on the back burner" for use as a cover story. The discussion notes Hillary Clinton's apparent anger during the period, suggesting internal friction over the choice of propaganda.

jay carney· innocence of muslims· hillary clinton· time magazine· propaganda

26:21 Well that was good. Yeah, thanks. We know the whole thing is a scam of some sort. I don't know why they just can't say what happened and... Well, I think it would look kind of bad if it turned out that we were moving weapons for our proxy war with Russia which is now being fought in Syria. No, no, I guess that's not good. You'd think they come up with a better cover story Well no, but it was a screw up. Look you and I both know this now that it was a screw up they weren't prepared. Yeah so I realize that but I'm saying after the screw-up... Well I want to know who came up with the dumb story? I still think its Carney. Oh the idiotic story about the movie? About the movie he's the kind of guy... He seems to be the guy who is defending it most. Exactly

27:11 Exactly. And he would be the media guy, I guess an editor at X editor of Time Magazine Yeah Which tells you everything you need to know right there and uh... He would, I could see him dreaming something like this up No no no here's what i see I see he's got, he's had this on the back burner for a while. He's like... Well the movie has been around for over a year I think right? Exactly! You already documented it and we would like to take that documentation and turn it into us clip show you documented that movies change of names and all the bull crap that went through because its obviously a phony movie promoted by one of the agencies intelligence agencies

27:56 The movie, the name was changed. You went through all the documentation and they finally came up with this one and rejiggered the phony baloney overdubbing so it was in abeyance, sitting there waiting to be used when needed And he's like a boy scout, you know I'm prepared And then he's like, oh I got some boss. I got some boss and the reason why Hillary is like a puppy dog and Hillary is like Oh my God! I can't believe they use that what an a-hole no So she's really angry that they used of all the things They had to use that one because you know who was at home going like? Oh No He didn't oh, no. He didn't blame it on them Muslims

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

Producer Donations and 1970s Pet Food Meme

Rick Bressler becomes an "instant knight" with a $1,000 donation, prompting a discussion on the high fees charged by PayPal versus direct bank deposits. Bressler's note about eating pet food to save money leads to a tangent about a 1970s meme regarding the elderly eating dog food. The hosts also briefly discuss the culinary merits of horse meat in France and a past "Daily Cow" article featuring a dog food taste test.

rick bressler· knighthood· paypal· pet food· horse meat· 1970s

28:42 That's what is going on there. I think that element is a possibility. Let us thank our producers for this very special show, John and I need to keep my eye on the clock because at 1 15 16 seconds it will be your time I guess cause not my time no if we are doing the show at one fifteen sixteen seconds I'm rethinking my life. No, it'll be one 14 and 15 seconds so we'll be 10 11 12 13 14 15 very 16 is sixteen 1000s you know that even on this home connection i think where were doing simplex on skype its it is now it is confirmed

29:26 Well, I'm not hearing you break off when like... I'm talking now. Say something. Can you hear me talk? Do you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear ya. Oh so then you're just being rude No! No! I can't... yeah that's it You can go join the chat room Thank-you very much Rick Bressler we do want to thank he is our instant knight for today show 451 and on 10 11 12 is retired and $1,000 came in from Washington direct deposit to the bank. Oh really? Wow! People talk a big game about that but very few people actually do it when they see the chart. It costs like 25 bucks or something to do it I'm retiring on which is actually cheaper than what PayPal charges for instant night donation Yeah there's a 30 dollars PayPal isn't it? It gets closer to 60 What?! Really!? Yeah Wow

30:22 That's a chip. So I would recommend just mailing checks, we have the check post office box 339 or there is a point where it is cheaper to you can't do a direct deposit through to the bank account because its going to cost 25 bucks and that's the fee so wouldn't do that with $25 donation obviously. I'm retired and on fixed income says Rick given the way the economy is going it's apparent my best shot at obtaining hookers in blow was no agenda knighthood They may be a bit skanky, but you can get them here. What a bargain! Well we do have one of the working girls out of Atlanta who's not skanky... We do? What a bargain I know money is tight everywhere but as i found out when trying to find the resources for this donation you can easily create some slack in the budget by developing a taste for pet food. Get used to it he says

31:15 This is the no gender cat food layaway program? Is that what this is? One suggestion though, stay away from the higher end cat foods as they often cost more than some brands of human rated food. Now to move aside for a second You probably weren't old enough, but in the 70s... My parents used to talk about this all the time. I remember my mom would say if this is what you're talking about my mom would say she would have an argument with my dad right? And i could just remember this as a child he's like well we either wind up eating cat food I think actually it was dog food. I think she said dog food not cat food. It tends to be dog food and this was a popular thing that became a meme in the 70's and they were all... so they'd show old people with one of these dog food cans eating straight from like it was Chinese food well have you ever tasted? Some of its quite tasty, I've tasted it Well some might be now here's the thing that do I wanted to mention which I thought was and I wish I could get ahold of his writer because I thought

32:19 The Daily Cow once had a female writer who went and did a taste test of all the dog foods. Sure! And she did a rating, it was like PC Magazine looking at all their printers so she ate all these dog foods that she ate and the cat foods AND kibble Kibble and bits. And so she went through the whole thing until it said which is the best ones and all the rest I just thought that was very creative anyway, I have I have cooked dog food before I've tried it and I can't remember what the reason was But it's not bad It's not bad kids love it

32:56 One suggestion though, stay away from the higher end cat foods as they often cost more than some brands of human rated food. In the past I would... by the way horse meat is also quite good you can get that. Yep yep. And in the past I would.. and just buy it from a horse meat provider. In fact in France they eat all the time. In the past I would often fast forward over some of Adam's more esoteric theories but have since concluded that the entertainment value usually outweighs the absurdity and no longer using my skip button. Seriously though, keep up the good work! Disconnected my TV about the time of the first golf war and stopped listening to the radio more than five years ago." When did the golfing war start? I like that. It's great to have a good source of relevant information in news that isn't tainted by the establishment or advertisers

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Knighting Ceremony and Value-for-Value Producer Credits

The hosts acknowledge several high-tier donors, including Darren Phillips, Steven Drew, and Joseph Frost. Steven Drew requests a NASCAR-style announcer voice for his credit, leading to a performance by the hosts. The segment emphasizes the "value-for-value" model, where listeners transfer funds from traditional investments into the podcast to support independent media assassination.

darren phillips· steven drew· joseph frost· nascar· value-for-value· podcasting

33:40 You need to find an alternative to PayPal. Those assholes have been refusing all of my credit cards! Oh boy... What's anyway, so okay? Well that's awesome. That is great It's great to have an instant night on a day like this It's fantastic very very happy very very and Greg Filer from Lauderdale Minnesota decided to donate 811 12 To take him to the 10 1112 amount you will become our 10 1112 night And he needs the best podcast karma You've got karma

34:19 Happy to oblige. Another night today will be Darren Phillips from Flagstaff Hill, South Australia 6969-6969 or no 6969-6969 I don't know it's 69669 Awesome A great show, truly the best podcast in the universe. The donation should be taken over the edge to the drunken debauchery of knighthood. Compelled to donate since John channeled Will Ferrell from Anchorman to tell the chatroom to go well you know what he said." Hey wait a minute! We got this donation because of that? Yeah You need to do more of it my friend This is we have forgotten that we need to tell our audience to go stuff it Can I get

35:05 Douchebag from my friend, uh... Andrew Morozak. He refuses to believe you can actually read these things out! Oh no, I know. He refuses to believe you actually read these things out meaning the douchebag guy. Well hold on a second hey dude double douchebag for that Also because he still gets his news from the CIA mouthpiece known as Al Jazeera but that's MI6 by the way Let's get that straight Close enough You know they do talk Lastly can i get an atlas shrugged followed by two to their head then that little girl shouting yay with a karma shot?

35:41 It's a tall order, so it said Atlas Shrugged Little Girl- Two to the Head Yay Karma. Oh my goodness. Where is the two to the head? I couldn't do it properly. We agreed we would limit it to three sound effects because I don't have enough hands Okay, now we've got a little more complicated situation here with Steven Drew from Newburgh West Virginia. Hey 451 he's the only member of the 450 club. He is the member of the 451 club and he wants to use my NASCAR voice do I have a NASCAR voice when i talk like this? Is this NASCAR to you? Yeah but it has to be a little more... Well NASCAR guys have a twangier voice that I can't quite copy. But yeah but it has to be announcer-y

36:39 You mean talking like, I'm talking with a southern accent. Talking with a southern accent with an announcer's voice? Yeah there you go now that you nailed it there you go perfect. Hi Jim from Newburgh West Virginia just a couple of years over from Motown WV although known after winning against Texas more correctly known as getting mo nation burning couch Good, good. Keep going. If that doesn't make you smell a load of crap, not much will. Anyway I'm now transferring some money from my retirement IRA to a better value for value investment. I say transfer why? Because taking it out of the phony baloney stock market scheme and putting into no agenda where everybody benefits is damn sound money right? The SUNY morning sickness cue story in show 450 was THE funniest moment in podcasting history and was nearly the end of me and we came close very-not very that is...to discovering an 18 wheeler scattered amongst trees

37:47 Please be careful listening to the show. Keep up the great work There's a better or greater podcast in the multiverse I want to know and add his RSS feed keep give me a deed Ocean Huntsman chain kill clean Japanese shut-up slave karma ITM thing whatever you call it as a piece off for this and I could go Island mess very good job very You've been D douched You've got karma. Shut up, Wayne! That was really good. Like it? I loved it. I mean you can do some voiceover work Yeah yeah you know what I know a great agent. All kinds of auditions. I can read a few. Joseph and finally we have one associate executive producer is Joseph Frost in Wooddale Illinois

38:40 $200 love karma would be appreciated from this lonely slave hopefully better than the job karma I begged for in the past. Oh, yeah We got some love Karma coming up for you no problemo. You've got Karma Executive producer associate executive producer for show four five one oh what remind people to go to Dvorak org slash and a we do need some help For The Sunday Show yes Channel of work comm slash na no agenda show calm and ogen donation com slash And there's a donate button there on both those two sites. Well, that's not entirely true. We actually we had a lot of art on last week It's so hard to choose but that's why we always incur and I always have it in every single show notes I put a link to all the arts you can see so people can go and enjoy it Go ahead print it out. It makes great t-shirts coasters posters Yeah coasters be really good for that And then we appreciate all the work you do and yeah III think one of these days we just might

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Adam Curry's Underwear Auction on eBay

Adam Curry promotes an eBay auction for a pair of his HEMA brand underwear, which he left at the home of "Black Knight" Dave Koss during a 2009 tour. The auction is listed under historical memorabilia, with a "Buy It Now" price of $1,000. Curry explains that the item will be shipped in a sealed bag with a No Agenda Black Knight ring wax seal.

adam curry· dave koss· ebay· celebrity auction· hema· memorabilia

39:50 It's very expensive to do but we can get that that Memjet guys whoever to print us up the whole stack wouldn't it be great if you just had the whole set and You sold in a nice box a collector's item of all the yes, I know what does with business cards hmm? And I want to thank Dave cause I want to thank Dave costs for a special Special promotion that he's put on today You remember Dave is our knight, black knight in Dallas who we had where he was our first stop on the 2009 No Agenda Hot Pockets tour. And you'll recall that I left a pair of my HEMA underwear at his house. Very suspicious yes so if you go to underwear.curry.com and i encourage you to do this now John so you can be the first one to have a look

40:42 Underwear.curry.com you will see that this is now an eBay promotion are you there? I'm trying to do okay, oh there it is yep You wear those yeah their hemas white Yeah as Fred Astaire said you should only wear black I have black too but these were my white ones and As you can see bidding starts that we have zero bids on Well, we should. This is terrible! The show has hit a new low. However if you can buy it now for $1,000 and that will make you... Buy it now? Underwear, if you buy it now underwear will come in a plastic bag sealed with a genuine No Agenda Black Knight ring black seal. You can't start bidding at 100. Only things that ever work are

41:33 Reserves no you started zero and let somebody be you know they get it because he does otherwise. You can't prime the pump I like the fact that it's in the there is a celebrity auction under collectibles and historical memorabilia It goes to the show so hopefully You'll like this yes, what somebody smart? They'll buy them and send them right back to me I said if somebody's smart they'll send them right back to you. Exactly. Well hold on, let me just remind everyone... That concludes our broadcast day. And of course we would appreciate it if you could always do the most important thing that we need is to go out and propagate our formula! Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Order citizens shut up, slaves

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House Committee Members and Technical Difficulties

While experiencing Skype connection issues, the hosts critique the members of the House Oversight Committee. They specifically mock Elijah Cummings and Eleanor Holmes Norton, referring to them with derogatory nicknames like "Egghead" and "Blowhard." The segment concludes with a brief reconnection to resolve audio dropouts.

elijah cummings· eleanor holmes norton· dennis kucinich· skype· technical issues

42:42 That's right citizens. I was looking at the members of this committee that you took the clip from, yeah? Yeah. This is the worst committee there is for...I mean to damn it! This has got Kucinich who's always making trouble. He's got that idiot... Let's reconnect for a second. You keep cutting out and its just not...yeah alright. Okay hit it. Hit it?! Hit it!? How come I can't hang up on ya? There we go. Alright, is he calling me back or should I call him back? Oh there we go Yeah hopefully it's not your router Uh that seems unlikely because it's always uh... how do I send now? Worse? Nah a little worse but it'll pick up So anyways got Elijah Cummings that idiot With the egghead Yeah and Eleanor Holmes Norton Ohhh my buddy! The blowhard yes

43:41 Egghead and Blowhard. It's egghead and blowhar in the morning everybody! Anyway, onward what else we got? Well there is tons of stuff Let me get a couple things out of the way real quick Yeah go ahead I've been dominating you're right You are so submissive today Let's see here. Well, you had the clip of the day already. I'm doomed! You're not doomed? Nothing...I got nothing here that can top it. Yeah well your...you have a low chance and we only got 10 clips thats...your ratio is off man. I'm trying to get through the ideal number of clips is 6 No its not!! Yeah because when I have more than ten it's always uhhhhhhh.... What's a clip on CNN where is it? I don't see it ohhhh... Oh please! It says CNN. CNN. How about if you could spell A

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Nobel Prize Announcement Gaffe in Sweden

A news clip from Sweden regarding the 2012 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine features a verbal slip where the announcer says "denouncement" instead of "announcement." The hosts play the clip repeatedly, laughing at the implication that the scientists were being publicly condemned rather than honored.

nobel prize· sweden· john b. gurdon· shinya yamanaka· gaffe· denouncement

44:28 Come on, and you know this is not fair. Okay? I got a gaff okay with it here This says PNS night see what your me should be PBS See this is my point great watch type in away from a great pns clip okay, okay wait wait But I'm gonna said this is the announcement for the the now once you see if you gotta catch the gaff Okay This is the announcement in Sweden for the for the Americans who won the Nobel Prize for I think chemistry The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institute has today decided to award the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2012 jointly to John B. Gurdon and Shinya Yamanaka

45:11 The two scientists are from two different generations and celebrated today's denouncement half a world apart. Did he say denouncement? Exactly! Now I played it over and over again with other people listening, and he says denouncement. Which is like... now give us the definition of denouncement That means you know you denounced somebody You're telling them that they're no good They should be banned from the community I denounce you That's funny That's funny. Denouncement doesn't sound anything like announcement. No, let me roll it back so people can listen to that themselves and make sure.

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Federal Protective Service and DHS Militarization

The hosts discuss the Federal Protective Service (FPS), a component of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) responsible for protecting federal buildings. They criticize the expanded powers of these officers and report on "maniacal" driving habits of DHS personnel in the Pacific Northwest. The conversation shifts to the general militarization of local police departments through DHS grants, citing the appearance of tactical vehicles in small towns like Albany.

federal protective service· department of homeland security· police militarization· janet napolitano· washington state

45:57 You know these guys are just reading John you know and sometimes they make some joke or some some intern Just make mistakes put it on the prompter. Hey watch this No, I think they just did it cuz they didn't know that there's a denouncement what happened there was a denouncement okay? Put it on here denouncement Hey remember II when I was in DC I I'm sorry, I'm reading something weird. I noticed the Homeland Security police truck and i was questioning what that was? Yeah they're all over the place there's a bunch of them around here yeah okay but you know what that is because someone snapped a shot of one of them here in Austin and it is actually the Federal Protective Service

46:48 That is what these cars are and they're a component of, of course the US Department of Homeland Security. Their job is to protect federal property and federal buildings but they have all these really expanded powers. So if they see you committing a crime, they can immediately arrest you without a warrant and yeah but essentially these guys they're not police officers that just hired through private private companies and then given a badge in the end to get a new to get to put police on their car and they act in it always like with their siren because I love it man. I regret some coffee. You bet.

47:35 Rockin' baby! And they have a bunch of these people. There's 9,000 of them. Yeah most of them were not Muslim but a lot of them are up in Washington State along the border as part of Border Patrol DHS Border Patrol and they're up there doing their jumping in to get there stay on the police bands and he's jumping in say you guys need any backup? Exactly because I got nothing better to do than sitting there protecting a building like how boring is that Uh, we've got a cop up at the tree over there on uh... Alright guys! We're on our way! Woooooooo! We're here. Police? Homeland Security?! How can I help maam? Get out of the way slave! Citizen! Ah they-they are out of their mind but they do have alot of powers

48:29 Yeah, they do and one of the problems they were having this ended about a year ago. Luckily nobody was killed but these guys were like up in the Pacific Northwest and whenever they went to any meetings it would turn on lights and sirens and then go 80-90 miles per hour on roads that are 55. They're going to the meeting! Yeah just rushing around for no apparent reason and passing people off Mimi says she almost got killed a couple times and they started to moan. They talked to the Highway Patrol of Washington State, so we can't do anything because they have this you know that they can do whatever they want but we can really do anything and they started moaning and groaning in so much that they had to go to Washington and talk to their supervisors I guess or somebody and finally sent a memo out told these guys just stop driving around like maniacs! I remember we talked about this on the show years ago This is how my brain works actually remember that

49:25 Here is their services. They are, I'm reading from the book of knowledge. They're to provide a visible uniform presence in major federal buildings and they respond to criminal incidents and other emergencies. They install and monitor security devices and systems. They investigate criminal incidents that can conduct physical security surveys coordinate a comprehensive program for occupants emergency plans prevent formal crime Prevention and security awareness programs, enforce traffic laws on federal property only mind you. Provide police emergency and special security services during national special security events whatever those are natural disasters such as earthquakes hurricanes and major civil disturbances as well as during man-made disasters such as bomb explosions in riots so I'm afraid of these guys

50:22 They are John Wayne Gung Ho crazies. Yeah, and they got some of the best gear. Oh! They've got awesome gear straight from Janet Yeah, they get the big budget. They get the big year makes everybody else look sick although we did the Apparently that the DHS has also been bribing all these small communities They must have done that with Albany because now we have for some reason out of the blue We have from having maybe five which subs one square mile town From having five police cars or six right and having like twelve outfit It had beauties with huge battering rams in the front, all black big giant beams thing. I mean this is a little town it looks like the SWAT team anyway it's terrible indeed it is uh completely underreported really really really under-reported but this is a massive shut up slave moment The U.S Supreme Court determined...I guess it was yesterday or the day before

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Supreme Court Upholds Telecom Immunity for Eavesdropping

The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge to the law granting immunity to telecommunications companies that participated in the government's warrantless wiretapping program. The hosts argue this legal victory paves the way for upcoming cybersecurity executive orders and further indemnifies corporations against lawsuits related to illegal surveillance of American citizens.

supreme court· telecommunications· warrantless wiretapping· immunity· cybersecurity· surveillance

51:26 That indeed all the telecommunications companies who are performing warrantless eavesdropping on United States citizens, they can maintain their immunity. And no harm, no foul. Nothing to see here. It's okay you guys did good. You did good by spying on illegally spying on United States citizens Good job! Good job and the Supreme Court ok'd this Yeah The Supreme Court So I think that this is just a they needed to have this win i guess for the cyber security law which is coming up

52:07 So that you know because of course they're already spying on our email and everything This is nothing new so that they can you know now everyone's off. Don't worry about it We'll just do the executive order It's already been cleared, but we already have the jurisprudence if anyone comes yammering about it before we have the bill passed where your Indemnified from lawsuits we can just say here we go did the same with with wiretapping? So you're good to go That's the way I see it. That's why they needed to get this through the Supreme Court, I don't have the exact vote or who voted yay or nay but... I thought it was just that the Supreme Court said we don't want to hear this so you guys are good to go already. I didn't know that was actually presented? I don't know either. There is so little reporting on it how can you even find out what actually happened other than here ya'go! But no one, me doesn't care No one, NO ONE, NO ONE is reporting on that. No One Oh and a good news Good good news

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Apple iOS 6 Data Usage and Mapgate Issues

A major technical flaw in Apple's iOS 6 and the iPhone 5 is causing massive cellular data overages for users, particularly through the podcast app. The hosts report that some users have unknowingly downloaded gigabytes of data, resulting in hundreds of dollars in fees. They criticize the mainstream tech press for failing to report on this "Apple snafu" with the same intensity as the "Mapgate" controversy.

apple· ios 6· iphone 5· data overages· podcast app· mapgate

53:07 So we had Mark, Void Zero along with DJ Dave Jones and all of our cast of thousands jump in. And they figured out a way to at least get the downloads, the shows to people uninterrupted so if you're listening to this it worked despite this huge unreported Apple snafu. This is gonna be so funny That, you know... You thought Mapgate was bad? There are people who are coming up with thousands of dollars of overages on their data plans because they took their spiffy iPhone 5 or they upgraded to iOS 6 and went to Europe on business, or on vacation. People in Australia are freaking out. I called my daughter! I said do not, do not, DO NOT upgrade to iOS 6 She's like nah nah what's up? Then tell your friends immediately these kids can't afford that there is something wrong with iOS 6 and the iPhone 5

54:08 Any application, if you have the podcast app on it then it's the worst. But any application that has to download a file is just running out of control and its just downloading these files over and over again I listened to Twit on Sunday There was no reporting! No one was reporting on this! No one! CNET not reporting on it New York Times...no one! No ones reporting on this And it's on their forum Because it's a holy apple! So awesome Blow me with your iPhone. We're paying for it too, by the way Yeah no I think so too. It's obvious a lot of people are missing some shows now Not only are people missing shows but how about the bandwidth? There are people who one show they wind up downloading 10 gigabytes of data This is not a joke John this is like really really bad

55:03 Well, anyway this is it get resolved. Oh, but it's okay for us And I think we're gonna be okay now But it's just interesting how the press is just all about you know Apple Just can't do anything wrong I guess you know Steve's not dead long enough yet to do that We have to wait a little longer What what do you think the appropriate time is so we can start away? They're going if I'd say ten years Wow wow wow although if they keep screwing up which apparently may be the new theme. I think as you start to see some nastiness over this mapping deal show up, but that's just minor. I mean the map thing is not and this may be related i don't know but they've got a they've got something very very broken and uh it's costing people real money and they're just now starting to find out now that you know they're getting text messages from their

55:56 You know from their carrier saying okay, you've already sucked up all your data and now every gigabyte cost ten bucks People are taking the brand new lovely iPhone and they have to turn data off as they go outside. How awesome is that? Yeah well yeah well that I always six apparently is a disaster oh yeah yes Well, you know all upgrades are tough All software sucks. Like a 20 terabyte line or some crazy pipe like that the problem is we were getting swamped and so then you know Then other people stuff would break now. We've got round-robin DNS, and I don't know all kinds of these guys are good You've got a great community working hard on it So it should be okay if not oh well keep working wait just a little little long But I think we have lost some listeners. I'm sure we lost some listeners for sure

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Jimmy Savile Sexual Abuse Scandal in the UK

The UK is engulfed in a massive scandal involving the late BBC presenter Jimmy Savile, following widespread allegations of decades of sexual abuse. The hosts discuss the removal of Savile's headstone and play archival clips where Savile issued "non-denial denials" regarding his behavior. They highlight the complicity of the police and the BBC in ignoring rumors that had circulated for years.

jimmy savile· bbc· sexual abuse· scotland yard· uk media· pedophilia

57:02 Hey, and the you probably heard if you're not in the United Kingdom of get Monation East's then you probably heard about it on the show here first about Jimmy Savile. The Jim will fix it guy this is now and it's now everyone's coming out of the woodwork in in the UK about this pedobear It's very interesting to watch and very interesting to hear all these different clips. Well, it has gotten so bad they removed his headstone from the graveyard! Yesterday afternoon the family contacted me and said that they had thought carefully about the course of action with respect to the stone

57:50 In order to protect the sanctity and the dignity of this cemetery they felt it was appropriate to remove the stone Literally, and by the way he was buried in cement at a 45 degree angle looking towards the mercy or something as per his wishes. Kai was a total maniac And you can just see...you can just see he's a fiddler and this is a bit from his autobiography And this stuff is just being played on the radio now. Now, the UK is really like... They love a good story like this Then here is a, here is basically saying you know it's not just me but the entire police force. Okay well in terms of that environment I mean which is what in one sense Mark Williams Thomas talks about not only those who were around him and the various places he worked but also for example the police. He makes mention in his own autobiography there was rather strange encounter which involves a girl whose run away from

58:48 from a remand home and he doesn't bring her back to the police till the following morning. And he says in his autobiography, uh, The officer S., the police woman was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues for it was well known that were I to go, I'd probably take half the station with me. You have to understand, I've been talking about this for years. You got a radio station burned down because of your chit-chat about this? Now here is on an interview in the late 70's where the allegations... This is one of these non denial denials The allegations were already out there and what drives me nuts

59:29 You know, these stories go on forever and people say that's impossible. That can't be! It would be a conspiracy so large someone would have to talk about it. It can't be the whole police force no it is not possible No, no, no The guy just What? I was just going to say the funny thing about that notion Is here the guy IS talking about it Yes! I mean it's like you have a conspiracy, say you have some horrible thing that takes place. And I would put World Trade Center 7 right at the top of the list of this. Uh-huh It is like oh if that was if that was a conspiracy the way you describe it they couldn't keep it as secret and somebody would talk about it

1:00:09 talking about it constantly. Yeah but there's somebodies don't count you see this is like the Muslims they say all the Muslim middle-class Muslims who aren't radicals that they should speak up, they do speak up! But it's only on a podcast you see doesn't count doesn't count if was on a podcast. There have been lots of stories about over the years and some nasty rumors as well and... He's like what? Nasty rumors what are you talking Um, Louis... And listen she's going ha ha ha! Just nasty rumour. The Rose documentary I know dealt with some of them and these claims of abuse How did you react to me when this came? What claims of abuse? Claims of um abuse with you and young children Oh never heard about it in my life Never heard of it in your life? Oh never heard about it in my life In my life John John have you ever heard of it in your life

1:01:05 Never heard of that thing. Never! I've never heard it in my life. Well, it was mentioned in the documentary Nooo...it wasn't at all. It's like the Monty Python character It's just a flesh wound When you get a documentary like that what they do is They keep prodding ya And what they hope Is that you will fall out with them and then they think That makes good television But it doesn't because when for instance Lewis' problem was, we finish up with good friends and he comes and stays with me. But when you're working for a living you forever prodding prodding prodding because a lot of people they called shock jocks. Oh it's the shock jocks John! Clearly were the shock jocks

1:01:51 and they try and shock people into either losing the temper or this that. He didn't get to early enough to do that with me, and the only person who came on stuck on that was Paul Llewy. But had you heard rumors and allegations? No no we don't listen... I have a life like Jim O'Fixie's where we don't listen to things like that And there was no way you were going to respond to any of it? So what's interesting is if you look at all these stories now in the UK, they're trying to spin it because we have a new Director General with the BBC and this his first thing. The guys just in the job...

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Haut de la Garenne and Elite Pedophile Rings

The Jimmy Savile investigation is linked to broader allegations of elite pedophile rings involving the Haut de la Garenne orphanage on the Isle of Jersey. The hosts discuss the discovery of children's remains at the site and the potential for blackmail among high-ranking officials in Europe. They reference other cases, such as Joris Demmink in the Netherlands and Marc Dutroux in Belgium, as evidence of systemic corruption within the justice system.

haut de la garenne· isle of jersey· joris demmink· marc dutroux· blackmail· elite scandal

1:02:34 How are you doing? Welcome to the show. By the way, the entire elite in media and politics are abusing children and they are picking them up at children's hospitals now there are kids or grownups now who were abused Savile literally would volunteer at hospitals and he would fiddle with the children, and they're trying to make it sound like it was always young girls who were fans of his. No no these are young children in hospitals, girls boys... He would take them to parties with politicians and rich people It's all coming out but you are going to be brainwashed into thinking this is just crazy shock jock people talking

1:03:13 All of this ties to Haute Laguerre. This is the elitist playground on the Isle of Jersey, the orphanage where children's bones and teeth have been found after they've been abused and killed." Yes, Jimmy Savile's name did come up during the inquiry but it was more of an inference than a specific allegation. Can I just clarify what that meant? What does an inference mean? This by the way is the police officer who did the investigation who was fired and kicked off the entire island Well, what we were told was that he was a regular visitor to Hotel Agaran. Oh just a regular visitor? Just dropping by! And to other homes on the island and uh... We were also told by national newspaper that they had asked him to assist us with inquiry and that he had refused but but that was very much a moot point at the time because um... we hadn't asked them to assist

1:04:09 and as a say hello we were given a photograph which purported to show him at Haute de la Garenne. There was really nothing in the photograph, and there was not even enough there to question him at the time." Right so there was no direct allegation at that time? No. But it subsequently turns out he WAS at home? It would appear so and it would appear as if he was there several times along with other care homes on the island as well. Yeah, and you're convinced now that he could have abused or did abuse children there? Well there are a number of reasons why I mean at the time we obviously had suspicions but they just wasn't any evidence but now I know for a fact that at least four perhaps five

1:04:52 People have come forward to say that they were assaulted by this man at Haute de la Garenne. And it's certainly consistent with the pattern of events of what was going on in Jersey at that time." So, I'll wrap this up because I could play these clips all day and then you know there is no radio station that can be burned down in this case but eventually I will push it too far I want to say something very important. There are people who are abused physically, mentally and then I think it propagates and I think that it can go from someone who's abused as a child can wind up abusing children and this is a vicious cycle and I think these people are just as much victims as they are abusers and there's that... That's a serious health issue

1:05:41 But what is happening if you look at Joris Demmink at the top of the justice system in The Netherlands and you look at all the elites who have been covering for him, You look at what's going on with Dutroux in Belgium. It's all connected! You look at this Isle Of Jersey... You look at Saville and all these are people who are blackmailing each other to stay in power And they are insane children blood drinking crazy people Write a book. Keep bringing it up on this show over and over, same thing. Yeah okay well... Right write a book! No because I know why there's lots of books been written about this. And by the way that'll publish that'll publish well. Hey Penguin!

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

Chinese Rail Service Training and Cultural Discipline

CCTV News reports on the rigorous etiquette training for crew members of China's new high-speed rail lines. The training includes physical drills where staff must balance books on their heads and hold chopsticks in their mouths to ensure proper posture and smiles. The hosts compare this level of discipline to the perceived lack of standards in the U.S. TSA and reference the "Noodles Kid" as a symbol of American worker entitlement.

china· high-speed rail· cctv· etiquette training· senkaku islands· discipline

1:06:31 I got a great idea! Here's my manuscript. Publish it!" Yeah, I don't think so. Back to politics. No hell with that. Let's play this clip. By the way CCTV... One of the reasons why we only have 10 clips is because- I'm gonna play... let me see where is the clip? I only have ten and can't find it. Export CCTV news. Why do you read a book?! There's a real short clip, I think it must be this one. Yeah, I've got it. Here is the reason... Export CCTV. Here's the reason every day for the last month CCTV when their news broadcast goes about 10 minutes and then they give this little pitch and then they play a documentary of the same one everyday

1:07:20 And that's it for this update of CCTV news. Coming up next is a special feature program, the Daoyu Islands of China. Wait! The value islands of China? Those are those islands. They're called value now. The Japanese call something out they call them daoyu or whatever. And yeah, well the Chinese have a different name for them and every single day really for the last two or three weeks they've been playing this 20-minute documentary about why the Chinese own these islands. Actually they have been beefing it up now that you got all kinds of weird stuff in it but it's like oh please... Why do we care? Why don't you guys go fight amongst yourselves meanwhile

1:08:05 They are putting a high-speed bullet train in China from couple of different towns. They're putting them all over the place But I want you to play rail service learning how to stand and then I want to tell you what I actually witnessed when watching this clip All the crew members had to pass tests including a written examination. Ahead of the railway line's formal operation, all the crew members are receiving various training to strengthen their courtesy during the service They also have to undergo physical training including proper stances for walking and standing as well as how to maintain a proper appearance

1:08:40 The 198 crew are expected to be divided into 37 groups after the rail service comes into operation. They should do that with the TSA! They don't do it with anybody in this country, they had these women standing there with like a leg up and then with a book on their head and with a chopstick in their mouth... Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait One leg up, book on their head, chopstick in their mouth. The chopstick was across the mouth like it would hold a rose! What is the point? I don't know what the point of the chopstick was and then they had him gesturing like here's how you introduce somebody to the door and they had him do this. Oh that's polite yeah i like that that's good That's almost more than I'm thinking... Would Americans

1:09:30 If they tried to do this in this country, they would sue the company. Yeah. You're a false... For harassment! I am not a slave to you! Oh man that's almost like The Noodles Kid. Yeah it is exactly oh you don't have that clip do ya? Uh let me see if i don't know if i have Noodles Kid. The Noodles Clip is my all-time favorite clip. How come I thought that was an evergreen and we saved that for some reason No, I don't have the noodles clip handy. Yeah, they kid he comes into work Hey man, I don't know why you're telling me how to cook a minute What is this it's not democratic what to do go to work? Telling me what to do This is no good Good like hey man yeah, we're idiots. Oh, I can't find the noodle split oh

CHAPTER 19 / 37 Discussion

Los Angeles Airport Security Breach and Trench Coat Arrest

A man named Yongda Huang Harris was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport after flying from Asia while wearing a bulletproof vest and a trench coat. His checked luggage contained knives, smoke grenades, handcuffs, and body bags. The hosts discuss the failure of international security checkpoints and recall a past Spy Magazine editor who used to pack "grotesque" items to annoy airport screeners.

lax· airport security· body bags· trench coat· mind control· spy magazine

1:10:21 Okay, well where you're looking for it. I got one more clip here that's worth listening to Apparently according to hellhound the chopstick is so you don't bite your tongue when you get tased Right on So, did you hear about the pullover talking about crazy comments in the comment room? There was they pulled over this guy's coming in from China or Japan or someplace he was dressed up with a bulletproof suit. I have the clip! I have to tell you what though and they played the clip hold on second I have it this was great I really liked this actually there had been a lot of questions raised about our airport security but how about

1:11:05 this one a man getting on... By the way she's drunk again, do you hear? Yeah. There are lot of questions about airport security. There have been a lot of questions raised about our airport security but how about this one a man getting out of plane in Los Angeles had in his checked bag knives, a club smoke grenades handcuffs and a hatchet how did it happen ABC senior national correspondent Jim Avila explains Alone traveler allowed to fly in a frightening getup from Asia to California Yang De Harris's flight suit Fireproof leggings knee pads a Chinese knockoff bulletproof style vest covered by the stereotypical long black trench coat

1:11:51 The stereotypical long black trench coat! This guy is involved in some sort of delusion or fantasy. That's totally appropriate obviously In fact sources tell ABC News Harris carrying only a laptop, wore that vest through security in China but was taken aside and questioned during his route through South Korea and Japan then allowed to proceed to the United States When he landed in Los Angeles, a customs agent noticed the unusual garb checked his bag and police arrested him. He had myriad of items in his checked-in luggage that raised a lot of suspicion. He had gas mask knives handcuffs Still it may surprise the average passenger none of that frightening gear not even the body bags in his luggage is banned from planes Hey by the way

1:12:45 I'm getting me some body bags and putting them in my luggage. That is a great idea! So, there's a couple of things that I want to say... There are number of things in this. Yeah go ahead Well first of all there used to be an editor at Spy Magazine used and I think people should read incorporate this concept who hated these these check checks at the airport and so he would carry a bag his luggage would be filled with some of the most grotesque dildos that you could possibly carry around so they'd have to so we have to watch these days just have to handle the things. Can i ask your question?

1:13:23 Is there actually a manufacturer who sets out to make grotesque dildos? Just go look them up, you'll find them. That's all that's... hey beauty is in the eye of the beholder son! So anyway But anyway, so I'm reading this in the big newspaper one of them with like 9000 comments and you won't think this is funny but that some members of the audience will The first comment that comes out of the comment room which is why it does the call back to the common room? For the first common that comes out. It says the guy was just going to a Raiders game Okay There's something else in this clip though remember

1:14:02 Um, his name? It was it was some judge. Not really but as y'all win or something like that Harris Harris His name is Harris. His name was Harris the same as the Harris kid Yes with a trench coat Oh total total recall on the mind control Yeah, good one. The whole thing was bullcrap... I got the Noodles Kid clip if you want it? Should we play Noodles? Oh we love the Noodles kid! By the way, I found this through search dot NA show notes dot com It really works, just typed in noodles and the first hit, noodleskid dot mp3 Well like i described earlier there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society You either work for someone else or you work for yourself And most people work for someone else In a way that they aren't free

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

The Noodles Kid and American Education Failures

The hosts replay a clip of a young restaurant worker, dubbed the "Noodles Kid," who complains about the "dictatorship" of his workplace and advocates for workers taking control of the business. This leads to a critique of the American education system, which the hosts argue prioritizes "self-esteem bullcrap" over discipline and competition, leading to a generation of entitled employees.

noodles restaurant· unionization· worker control· education system· self-esteem

1:14:52 You don't really get to decide your work. For example, I work at noodles a restaurant and basically it's a dictatorship there. We're told exactly what we're going to cook, how are we gonna cook it, what time are we gonna get there? And basically if they don't like what they're doing they try and tell us what to do If you don't listen then they get rid of us! So... we're not able to actually cooperate in any way that we make decisions together I tried to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodle so as source of power to start with. And then I think in terms of bigger picture when you look at revolutions The way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control of the place where they work. Would your plan, your vision for noodles? Sure

1:15:41 Would it include the owner? What capacity would he be granted? If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that we had, we would definitely cooperate with him. We'd have to abdicate his position of being an owner and controller of us And he would have to recognize that...We run noodles together! Basically if he doesn't want to cooperate with us He's against us And this is why we are doomed. This is unbelievable, every time I hear that Kenny bitches about the dictatorship of noodles... Stick a chopstick in his face! That's what you put a book on his head and stick a chopstick in his head. That'll teach him. You know, I have to say

1:16:27 that somewhere we went wrong in these United States of Gitmo Nation. The education system! Yeah, it really is... Self-esteem bullcrap! It really is the education system. Everybody has to be a winner. You're right. Yeah yeah it's sad but that's where it went wrong. Competition is bad let's just hug and tell the secret. Let's all hold hands oh man yeah it's bad and you just see Southwest Airlines, somehow they're still great. And I think they train them at Southwest Airlines They must Yeah! They probably make them stand at attention with a book on their head No but Southwest Airlines are generally happy and helpful You know it's like we've been traveling a lot and the suitcase is 52 pounds instead of 50 or less than 50 and not a single one went like every other airline So like man don't worry about it man

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

Angela Merkel's Visit to Greece and Lagarde's List

German Chancellor Angela Merkel visited Athens, Greece, amid massive protests and Nazi-themed imagery used by angry citizens. The hosts discuss "Lagarde's List," a document containing 2,000 names of Greek elites suspected of tax evasion and bribery, noting that two individuals on the list have recently died under suspicious circumstances. They also mock Merkel's choice of attire, which Greeks interpreted as a deliberate insult.

angela merkel· christine lagarde· greece· imf· lagarde list· eurozone crisis

1:17:32 Chill man, don't worry. It's all cool. It's all cool brother. It's very nice so the true ruler of the world Christine Lagarde has given Greece two more years this is This never ends great. This is big news and lagardes list I have to point out there are now two people dead who are on the list we talked about this thing two shows ago over there in in Euro land where Christine Lagarde has apparently a list and on this list is 2,000 elites and politicians And people in the media who took a total of 1.9 billion euros In kickbacks from you know country things like Siemens and just all kinds of stuff so see we have Two people dead on the lagardes list you do not want to be on on Lagarde's list one guy hung himself

1:18:29 and or he was hung you never really know and the other guy I think he got suicided as well. And this thing is not getting a lot of play really in the press, i think it's great story Who are these two? Did you get their names? Yeah one of them was... Janos Stournas now he's the current finance minister Greek businessman accused being Part of the bribery and money laundering network was found dead in a hotel room in Jakarta. His name, Vlasis Kamberguglu. He was involved in some Russian stuff going back and forth I mean these names are kind of hard but it also involved former defense minister Akis Tokopuzalupas. He's in jail

1:19:33 It's just it goes on, it doesn't really matter. I mean when Merkel and Angela Merkel came to town and I don't know if you've seen the pictures but people literally had big signs of Merkel with a Hitler mustache they had big Nazi flags with Merkel in the middle of them Here is little report from Euronews And by the way when you show up and there's a marching band then you're on the red carpet, and you're coming out of your douche mobile You're flying douchemobile. Your kind of asking juice what yeah Anna Tuba Yeah, we kind of asking for trouble. Yes like she is She's okay. She's the politician from another country But they bring her in like she's royalty who these people are any

1:20:18 Insane! They really think they're that awesome. She arrived for her first visit to Greece in over five years, Europe's paymaster touching down in the Eurozone's most indebted nation In the past she stayed away, critical of the slow pace of reform here. But now she's arrived for a symbolic show of support." Now, she came to check up on her island is what she did but here is a subtlety that the Greeks were very angry about She was wearing these same jacket and if you notice Miss Merkel, she wears this same schnitzel coat

1:20:57 It's always the same because she has a big pot belly and she tries to hide it. Just Google the picture, you'll see it's always the same type of outfit that she is wearing but she wore the exact same one that she wore at the soccer game when Germany beat Greece and this did not go unnoticed by the Greeks. It was like just an extra slap in the face. That's very funny! Well, I mean it's very funny to us. Yeah well yeah to us is great uh so yes they had six or seven thousand police officers out there there was no reason for her to go there just to rub it in people's faces No, there's no reason for her to go there at all! But that's okay two more years slaves Two more years? Yeah, oh there you go. Two more years of riots is what its gonna amount to Oh yeah, oh yeah Well then...I watched the whole...the IMF had their big party in Japan

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

Urban Planning Obstacles and No Agenda Newsletter

A producer from Croatia reports a trend in European cities like Zagreb and Madrid where architects are placing physical obstacles in public plazas to prevent large crowds from gathering. The hosts suggest this is a preemptive measure by governments to discourage riots and protests. They also encourage listeners to sign up for the No Agenda newsletter and contribute to the No Agenda News Network.

zagreb· madrid· urban planning· public squares· riots· no agenda newsletter

1:21:55 in Tokyo and I watched it live, and I watched Christine Lagarde do her little speech there. It's just nothing worthwhile you know? It wasn't even shocking! She never says anything interesting No Even the questions but she always starts off with like some... talk a little French, talk a little Japanese show how cool she is So i got a letter from one of our producers in Croatia Oh, oh yeah, we know who that is Yvonne Yeah, Yvonne I can't, he just kind of read the newsletter where Garcia discussed the fact that in Brazil, in Madrid they are putting a bunch of stuff inside the giant plaza.

1:22:44 To kind of screw it up so you can't do because in Europe, in many of these old towns there's this huge public places that you can go. I mean they have one... Beijing has one That's where they had their... and they had a problem They have problems there too And so because the public will gather in large number Oh so you have to put obstacles in there? You mean Yeah, so they're putting obstacles. He mentioned that in Zagreb I guess they're starting to do this just already even though he says the Croatians never riot or anything it's not like their nature and i'm now beginning to wonder if this is a trend that we're seeing the early stages of where all across Europe all these pleasant

1:23:23 Plazas these town squares which are in every place that were also recommended by the way by city architects as a good idea Mm-hmm are all gonna be decimated because it's this fearful cuz if you don't have no place to gather Yeah, then you can't gather. Can't gather just go home and get on the Xbox We want you to point that out as a possible trend to look out for I got a lot of positive feedback on the newsletter if You have you're not a member of our newsletter. You can sign up There's always a link where to sign up in the show notes and the RSS feed for the thing is broken That's I don't know that tone pointed that out to me. I didn't know that they

1:24:04 they changed the RSS feed or something. That was kind of weird I don't know, i'm looking into it yeah check it out but people liked that they liked the whole idea It was kinda like a special highlight Of course we have Noah Jen The News Network NoahJenTheNewsNetwork.com which our producers post to people put in RSS feeds that are worthwhile Please if you find yourself sending emails to John and I on regular basis consider just getting a blog somewhere You can literally just freely and available, you can post your RSS feed into NoahJennaNewsNetwork.com and you can share the articles I watch that all the time all day long it's much better than email much much better but taking a boots on the ground story like that

1:24:49 But that's truly, that's beautiful. And we don't have enough of that. We don't have people just writing a little bit about something they're observing in their own hometowns so I think it is good initiative to put into the newsletter an extra service. Exactly! We are here as public service operation. We are? I think so. Public Service Operation So before we get through the donation segment which you are leading too. Kinda I have a, you know if we were taking advertisements we'd be taking campaign ads for sure. We've been making a lot of money. Oh yeah. But when i saw this I actually had to stop it and go back to make sure wasn't some parody or something stupid that was on Colbert because this is definitely like written by Stephen Colbert but this was actually an honest-to-god

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

Obama Campaign Ad Targeting Big Bird

The Obama campaign released a television advertisement mocking Mitt Romney for his proposal to cut subsidies to PBS, specifically mentioning Big Bird. The hosts criticize the ad as a sign of the administration's disdain for the electorate, noting that the president has failed to prosecute any major bankers while focusing on Sesame Street characters. They reiterate their slogan: "Eventually everyone gets tased."

barack obama· big bird· pbs· mitt romney· campaign ads· sesame street

1:25:45 True to form, Obama campaign at the real deal. I'm Barack Obama and i approve this message. Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay, Dennis Kudlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? One man has the guts to speak his name Big Bird! Big Bird. It's me, Big Bird! Big Yellow a menace to our economy Mitt Romney knows it's not Wall Street you have to worry about its Sesame Street I'm gonna stop the subsidy to PBS Mitt Romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest Yeah and already the childrens workshop has said please take that off the air we know why you amusing big bird

1:26:28 But this is so... A buddy of mine on the radio in Holland asked me to do a little report for him and I sent him this. This is how insane we are in America, and this is actually the conversation We are literally talking about this And here's a president who has put let me count zero bankers in jail Zero! And has the nerve and the gall to do this It makes my stomach turn. It's pretty sickening! Yeah I mean do they think it's funny? If it was on the Colbert Report or Jon Stewart, yeah it would be funny there but this is like what they're taking the billion dollars that they're collecting and doing this with it? Why don't they just do a comedy show?! Well they have such disdain and disrespect for the electorate for the American people

1:27:27 And unfortunately, they're pretty much right that the majority of people think this is hilarious and they love this. And they're looking for zingers and looking for all these little cool things they can tweet about. Of course a population gets the government it deserves but people who watch us and like it... I spit on you! I mean you should be tased severely. They probably will get tased. Everyone will, that's the irony. Eventually everyone will be tased! That's our slogan for today John eventually everyone gets tased Everyone gets everyone gets tased. Don't worry this plenty enough for everyone to go around John Critchley in force

CHAPTER 24 / 37 Discussion

Birthday Shout-outs and the Fifth Column

The hosts process several donations, including a "MILF shout-out" for a producer's wife and a request for gambling karma in Las Vegas. They discuss the definition of a "fifth column"—a group that undermines a nation from within—and embrace the term as a description for their mission to deconstruct mainstream media.

milf· rkr technology· fifth column· las vegas· value-for-value· knighthood

1:28:27 someplace in the UK best wishes and hoping to get the job back in the UK writing pearl if it's the right move for me play The Appropriate Please which I believe is a karma shot. Oh we have that form You've got karma Kessia Wright in Warsaw, Virginia $150 with no comment Dean Roker East Let me stretch this thing out he's Grin Winston Greenstead West Sussex $133 a longtime listener five buck a month subscriber check it to make sure I couldn't turn down the call for 33 donations for 10 11 12 But one to give a little extra because yours really is the best podcast in universe So I donated 133 and I think all the boners out there should think hard about what you guys do and pony up so Adam isn't forced to look For more voiceover work. This is going to be my first donation on the way to a knighthood possibly like a milf shout-out from my smoking hot wife Simone

1:29:27 It's our sixth winning anniversary on 10, 13, 12. And two to the head shut up slave karma for my new business RKR Technology just starting out providing encrypted off-site backup for small businesses Okay, should we do that? We'll give a ten percent discount if they mention best podcast in the universe The website is rkrtech.co.uk All right here we go MILF! That's one mother I'd like to You've got Karma It might not be a bad idea backing up to the UK. Michael, what do you mean? What do you mean back-up? Oh, you mean... I said having local backup that can be compromised Yeah that's a good point. My word, I mean Switzerland also has a lot of backup operations How about just onto a CD ROM Well it's a huge have to get you know I can't believe you of all people is advocating a cloud backup service No i'm just saying if you're gonna back up but you had to have offsite

1:30:31 My backups are all here but I have one off-site. And this is a perfect opportunity for me to talk about Carbonite, John because if you want it back you gotta back it up! We'd be doing that if we were taking ads... But no, I keep a 2 terabyte hard disk in the trunk of my car Oh really? In the trunk of your car? Interesting. I carry around a USB drive on my keychain which has the most important things Well, I have too many important things. I got a lot of photos for example and i can't put them on anything. Oh say no more we are wink-wink nudge-nudge the photos eh? Yes Michael Klink in Oak Park Illinois went to 116 like to make it 1012 this would make me at ten eleven twelve ah that's right that's right 1011 12 karma 50 other words he is over the top give him a karma per night you've got karma

1:31:22 Patrick Macom in Mount Vernon, New York. 1111 L. El Sid Compidore from the fifth column! What is the fifth column? What is that? It's the fifth column it's the one step after the fourth estate. It's the underground. Oh okay. Oklahoma 100 El Cid Campiodor from the fifth column. A round of karma for all listeners and to the best podcast in the universe. I'll look that up for a second. You've got karma. Fifth column, you know because i never really thought about it fifth column... While you're doing that I'll thank Sir Jesse Wilson from Hobart

1:32:06 Indiana. His first donation as a knight, $99.99 is 33 times 3. Karma please! Very nice like it. You've got karma. From the book of knowledge, a fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group such as a nation from within. A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers, of an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines or our country's borders We ARE the fifth column John! I like this Yes, but we're after the media Matthew lower Milwaukee Wisconsin 7777 keep it great working congratulations on five years I'm requesting some gambling karma for my upcoming trip to Las Vegas. Good luck with that Hoping to find better craps tables and I found in my last chip go to the smaller clubs when I thought about it But failed to make a donation then now he's wants us

1:33:05 All right, well all right. Kennedy Manelauer. Good luck good luck. You've got karma We don't advocate that but good luck we can't we can't control it? We can't give it to you. We just...We can only do as you ask and Jonathan Marcus would agree with that he's in San Antonio Texas and gave 70 saying I don't believe in Elvis I don't believe in Kennedy I don't believe in Karma But I do believe in propagating the formula please keep hitting people in the mouth will do Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia be virginia between you reach any virginia And oh my goodness Okay, one more week of this last week is the last we don't even encourage this no I

CHAPTER 25 / 37 Discussion

Black Badge Shooting and Baroness Vacancy

A producer from Ontario reports success in IPSC competitive shooting with a new Glock 34 after receiving "karma" from the show. Another producer, Baron Von Pelsmach, announces a vacancy for a "Baroness of Belgium" following a separation. The hosts attempt to speak Dutch and Italian to fulfill specific "shut up slave" and "douchebag" call-out requests.

ipsc· glock 34· black badge· belgium· baroness· dutch language

1:33:55 This of course is Sir Thomas Nussbaum who came to our DC show, drove up from Virginia Beach with St. Nicole who are getting the ring and I guess that's all being taken care of Mimi is all over that Well yeah there was a little... apparently it was stolen but here's another one coming out express mail Karma for Mickey Adam John and Mimi 5 more years at the best podcast in the universe That's so kind of you we'll take it You've got karma Kyle Ferencz in Aurora, Ontario 69-69. My Uncle Kerry gave me karma in June yeah I'm a little behind on the episodes and yes it worked out was in line to get fired from work and instead got a raise right? In disrespect...in respect I'd like to give an in the morning karma shot to my uncle Kerry and to trigger. I recently got my black badge and am ranking quite well in IPSC with my new Glock 34

1:34:54 I thought he was talking about Cody. Hey, man. I'll bust a cap with my G lock in you boy like Mike luck 34 Thanks again uncle carry and thanks guys for the best podcast in the multi Yo bra step back bro With her's like Elwood Illinois 6969 sir Zog Here is I can't let the fifth anniversary or a date like 10 11 12 slip by without a little something for the effort. I also worried that this 6969 meme might end in light of 5555 for this episode so i'm choosing to diverge from the commemorative amount In an attempt to stave off the inevitable For yet another week if I could grab a little vote for jobs 2-to-the head karma, I'd appreciate it And I keep my karma stash ready for when I need it uh when somebody else might need it

1:35:50 Okay, I say once so let's vote for the jobs to the head karma jobs Jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs You've got karma I had it you nailed it Baron, Baron Von Pelsmach. 69-69! Could have him back He's back in action My first donation this year as things are not well in the Barony Uh oh Yeah I figured it was about time to help with the production of the best podcasting universe again regardless of this personal trials and tribulations I once am listening to shows shortly after they're produced but like many producers

1:36:31 Listen to many episodes weeks later as you showed again on the last episode though Since you are both so far ahead of the curve in the news As we pointed out earlier by the time some producers listen to this show it will be totally actual on-the-spot. Yeah, that's actually a good idea Yes, wait three weeks and you'll be nailing it and yes still be a week ahead yeah I would like to request an Italian shut up slave two to the head douchebag callout for the future ex Baroness What future ex-president here with open the vacancy for the next Baroness of Belgium wait a minute, so there's there's a There's an opening for a For a baroness yeah in intelligent and he also says binge Dawn Vought Julie dawn Julie gin go on fantastic That you know your Dutch you when you got to Holland You're getting laid so bad my friend if you just say that I

1:37:27 What you just said there was great. Italian shut up slave to the head douchebag Shut up slave! Stazito schiavo! There ya go, it was a complicated sequence but we got through it Richard Harriman in Oklahoma City Oklahoma 6969 I'm never sure what to say with these donations but first things first I want to wish the most beautiful and amazing Dr. Christina Lake a very happy birthday which will be on Friday. I happen to be lucky enough to be engaged to marry her having her in my life is a true blessing and A gift on a daily basis i also want to thank you Adam and John for all the work You put into the show may, have a milf in the morning karma for christy That's one mother i'd like The uh i guess what i forgot what you had maybe it's In the notes here one of our producers wrote and singing i've been trying

CHAPTER 26 / 37 Discussion

Skype Quality Issues and The Daily Skew

The hosts experience significant audio lag on Skype, leading to a discussion about the platform's "catch-up" algorithm and a mock rating of the call quality. They also acknowledge a donation from Anthony DiCarvalho, who promotes "The Daily Skew" on Kindle. The segment explores the possibility of publishing No Agenda content on Kindle to reach a wider audience.

skype· call quality· anthony dicarvalho· daily skew· kindle· value-for-value

1:38:27 I guess the male thing puts off a lot of women feminists. Yeah, yeah, let's call me back John because you're like cutting out a lot again it's just not right here we go it's like and I wonder how that works by the way because I can hear that it's really funny what happens because Skype will hold back on a word and then the word will come out and then you can hear Skype catching up Does that make any sense? Yeah, this is a very old algorithm that I've seen in the past but haven't seen it recently but starting to show up. I noticed this when i did the podcast with Horowitz Okay so its not just us He would say something Right But then he'd be blank and you still hear it Exactly! And it would still be in time Yeah It's very...I don't like it Let me ask you question

1:39:23 How would you rate the overall quality of this call? Two stars. Two stars?! No, it's one star! One star means that you can't hear the guy at all. Problem was so bad that the call wasn't possible... Okay two stars wow You're like honest Choose all that apply. The call did not connect... None of the above, you suck and you blow. Okay send feedback okay good let's continue Thanks for rating this! Thanks for taking the time to tell us what you think get help with your call quality issues read about call quality now oh they should just say screw you you get what you expect from nothing This feedback thing is the same as the button on the crossing light

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1:41:07 We're waiting on checks for our business to find their way out of the USPS black hole after 15 days we decided to pay you instead of our electric bill Wow so So here's Justin. He's in Winter Park, Florida he is waiting for checks that for some reason are stuck in the Postal Service and Instead of paying the electric bill they decided to support the best podcast in the universe Thank You That's a round of applause for Justin The best part was that it was my wife's initiative to do it. That might have something to with Adam's sexy voice. Oh yeah, hey Beth, thank you so much and in case they turn off the electricity don't worry I'll keep you warm

1:41:55 Love the show and all your hard work. $33 from each of us, and 33 cents for each of our human resources. They place no value on their human resource! 33 cents? Eric Bottenfeld in Park City Illinois 5555 in the morning best podcast in the universe 55 an honor of it I'd like to wish my brother and all-around great guy Phil Paxson is happy 33rd we got them on the list yep in honor I give 20333 this donation that go towards my knighthood credit but still keep 2222 in order to alleviate my boner status

1:42:32 So please wish Phil a happy birthday and he needs a simple de-douching in half of karma. Okay You've been de-douched! You've got... I was wondering how you were gonna do that. You got the K, it's perfect. You get the harp, you get a little bit of K. Hey man listen don't mess with me Anthony DiCarvalho, DiCarvalo, DiCarvalo. DiCarvalo? Fort Lauderdale Florida Carvalho. Carvalho. It's Carvalho my friend

1:43:11 The most interesting man in the universe. For Lauderdale, Florida 5555 want to send out a happy 5th and send out a magic number 33 challenge all the boners out there on 10 11 12 for every 33 paid subscribers of daily skew calm he will donate five bucks to no agenda so dailieskew.com on Kindle not sure what that is I know it's a Daily Skew is cool oh we've talked about yeah and its SKEW daily skew dot com As Adam knows, I have a sick child and am living in the new American dream of just getting by. Yet somehow I find a way to donate so if you can listen to this podcast You know that at least 99 cents per month is subscribed to The Daily Skew on your Kindle If you've never donated you can help The Daily Skew. It will help propagate the formula Let me ask you a question So we can publish stuff on Kindle? And charge money for it? Interesting maybe I could publish my pedo book there Daily Pedo Report

CHAPTER 27 / 37 Discussion

Fifth Anniversary Donations and Wireless SSID Propagation

As the show approaches its fifth anniversary, producers send in celebratory donations. One producer suggests a "PR propagation" tactic where listeners rename their home and work wireless SSIDs to "noagendashow.com" with the password "inthemorning." The hosts also discuss upcoming amateur radio (HAM) tests and acknowledge a Drupal developer's newsletter.

fifth anniversary· monsanto· wireless ssid· ham radio· drupal· value-for-value

1:44:10 Just maybe. Alright Okay, anyway he needs a uh... He says in honor of you playing my Bad Company 6969 jingle last episode he'll pledge to do a 12-12-12 instant night donation if the Daily Skew on Kindle reaches 6969 subscribers by November 13th Uh yeah okay I wish we had 6969 subscribers dude That but i'll play that for ya! 6969 I still like what he did. All right, so he has the call He wants us to do what is it? I lost track. Oh just give him a little bit of karma That's where he needs for sure yes You've got karma these are 5555 donations the 26th of October is when we officially celebrate our fifth anniversary And these are all congratulatory donations by Michael at Madja in San Diego 5555 happy birthday you guys

1:45:12 Adam you moved to Austin just as I left to Southern California be honest are you avoiding me hell? Yeah when I first listened 2.5 years ago, I thought you guys were crazy But now I'm in arguments with all my friends and family about how blind we all are I'm starting to think my stepdad from corn-loving Nebraska is actually a shill for Monsanto broke my mom's On Santa broke my mom and dad up so he could infiltrate my family oh Really? Anyway, I don't want no stinking karma or a de-douching. Instead can i just get a Plains Good see something say something thanks for being the best news source in the multiverse. Patrick Kobel and Nashville Tennessee Sir! 4 5 Sir Patrick Kobel to you. I want to say congratulations on making it five years with the value for value model has been way to get

1:46:12 It's been way too long since my last donation. I need to get some karma. Simple PR propagation discovered equals everyone should make their home and work wireless SSID aka the network name noagendashow.com Yes, with the password in the morning that is our standard way of doing it. That is right In the morning Thank you so much Alan Schaff and St Paul Minnesota nuts 5555 No comment Really? Minnesota nuts? Okay. Alright. Sir Russell Williams in Boise, Idaho. No it's Boise. And it is the home of the Boise State football team. Yeah no need to mention the S in my name since as was pointed out me by a friend that s now stands for sir thanks for the great five years here and

1:47:06 Well, the way this Skype is going it's not gonna be another five minutes. We have to... I think i'm gonna... You're breaking up again? Yeah. Do you want to call me? Let's do Mumble man! Oh Mumble. The whole show is about mumble is the problem. Yeah, I'll try calling you see if that helps yeah yeah no we're after the show we're actually gonna test and see if we can get it back together with mumble I do think it's a pretty good system And we're back. Yep, keep on rolling. Uh where was I? Sir Russell. Shane. Okay, Shane Petton in Cartersville Georgia 5555 driving down the road my wife list no agenda when the donation segment started she laughed and said she couldn't believe people actually sent money to you guys hey i looked at it in a display and informed her i was out of 100 or 111

1:48:07 I was 11 cents a month producer and also made larger donations in the past, and even gave her a MILF call out once. She rolled her eyes and called me a moron! I told him if she ever insulted this podcast or the universe of its producers again, I would divorce her bitch ass! Wait a minute... Please give my wife a douchebag call out more like my awesome travel blog FOTOVIA.ORG Wow This is hardcore. I mean he's right of course, and you got a that's hot it is hard core You gotta put her in her place but still I mean that is that is pretty pretty I'm saying puts standard there with the book on our head and chopstick in their inner mouth exactly on one leg where you're gonna be headed if you don't start waking up Wait a minute Could I just hear you say that one more time? That's where are you gonna be headed

1:49:06 If you don't start waking up. No, but you gotta do the whole thing that's... That is like... Oh yeah it's a free show clip. You're trying to use me! No I would like to... okay, well it's not funny anymore. No never mind just go just keep going Steven Sevchuk in West Orange New Jersey Happy anniversary the slaves just want some karma That's right hey right near my old hood man near Verona and Montclair West Orange hello You've got Karma Jersey Bashir Osman Haro Middlesex 5555 Lee Donaghy in Great Yarmouth Norfolk 5555 Just getting by money

1:49:46 David Lindbergh, Rochester New York 5555 keep up the good work. Sir Spike in Hamilton Ohio Been a while since I checked in some value for values would better time to congratulate you on an awesome five years Thanks for all the hard work keep hitting them in the mouth Jeremy Cooper Toronto Ontario Birthday from his girlfriend Kelly got it. Oh that's cool Loya Enterprises, La Mesa California 5555. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe only my second donation I just barely getting by that said I had people in the mouth whenever I get the chance I want to thank you for the karma You sent me my way on it when I donated June a roll enrollment at our martial arts school is up master instruction Instructors sold a few more Kindle books please send my instructor Scott Conway

1:50:31 with one T. Pronounce it with one t. That's just Scott, so the karma goes to the right place. You gotta pronounce it right man do it again you didn't say it right. Scott! He didn't do it right 1T otherwise I would have pronounced it Scott mm-hmm his emotional IQ is being offered free on October 11th and this extra download will certainly boost his ratings thanks again John and Adam uh wow okay anyway give him a carma give his boy a carma yes absolutely You've got karma. I can't wait to take my test, uh...I think i'm taking it in ten days My ham test Oh yeah Cause why don't we just do the hook up on ham and just say over Over Can we duplex? We can duplex That's legal right you could duplex

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CHAPTER 28 / 37 Discussion

Tyler Oglesby's De-Douching and Anniversary Gift

Rosanna Oglesby from San Antonio donates toward her husband Tyler's knighthood as an anniversary gift. She notes they were married on October 10, 2010 (10-10-10), which the hosts identify as a significant date in Chinese culture. The hosts provide Tyler with a "de-douching" and grant Rosanna "travel karma" for her upcoming trips across the Midwest.

san antonio· 10-10-10· knighthood· travel karma· de-douching· marriage

1:52:04 Okay, 54-51. First time donor needs a de-douching. Send some karma to our service men and women. Finally rest in peace Ray Bradbury on show 451. Absolutely. You've been de-douched! You've got karma. That's right boys and girls it is for you out there. Aaron McGuffin or Maguffin in Woodstock Ontario 5150 Please help me congratulate Sir Joe CoolDesign on his birthday this week with a little fluoride in your cup, Karma. I don't... that's a good one. I don't know what day is birthday isn't to be frank? I don't know how old he is but he's gotta be pushing 40! I should have gotten there's no agenda trinket collector another challenge coin but it really couldn't be bothered with the hassle much like finding out the actual date of his birthday whatever you'll get a kick out of the card okay

1:52:52 Best Claude past and blast in the omniverse. All right, so that's interesting was on a fluoride karma. Yeah You've got karma nice one Now Rosanna Oglesby in San Antone Texas right down the road 50 bucks she says in the morning I'd like to donate toward my husband's knighthood. Now this is a woman that knows what she's doing. She ain't gonna get no divorce, this is a woman who was going to get loved and respected and held up on the pedestal like the princess that she is! Exactly This is my anniversary gift to Tyler we got married on 10-10-10 That's interesting

1:53:40 1010 day by the way is a Chinese holiday. I think it's Taiwan independence day or something, but it's called 1010 and they have a huge celebration in Chinatowns all over the United States. The last two years have been the best to my life... By the way it's easy remember an anniversary if you get married on something like that 10-10-10 he's a great husband works very hard for me to be able stay at home with their 11 month old Sierra even though he doesn't deserve it because He hasn't donated. I'd like a de-douching for Tyler, I need some travel karma from myself and i drive to visit my family that is spread out between Missouri Illinois and Indiana. I'll donate again before I come home for some karma thank you for being the best podcast universe. Travel Karma. That's so nice! De-Douching first... You've been de-douched. And some travel karma for ya woman. You've got karma. That is a woman and half she's a brick house

CHAPTER 29 / 37 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony and Fahrenheit 451 Homage

The hosts conduct a formal knighthood ceremony for several producers, including Michael Klink and Rick Bressler, welcoming them to the No Agenda Roundtable. They note the significance of episode 451 as an homage to Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451." The discussion reiterates that the show is funded solely by listeners, unlike political campaigns that receive billions from the public and corporate interests.

ray bradbury· fahrenheit 451· knighthood· gary johnson· media assassination· roundtable

1:54:34 Then George, Black Knight George Vanderhorst 50 and Gerd Van Triep. Gerd Van Triep! Tripe. Trip. Tripe. Tripe. Tripe. Tripe. Forget it. Gerd Van Trip. Gerd Van Triep Get it together man. Yeah, yeah there you go. Nailed it. Oh yeah nailed it. Awesome. I nailed it! Hey thank you all so very much for... Help me our group of producers for this show. Thank you for... 451 Yes thank you for supporting us this was the Fahrenheit 451 edition we have... I'm stepping on ya. You are stepping on me that's really good One guy by the way caught with a Bradbury mention What do you mean? With the 451 you mean

1:55:21 He mentioned Ray Bradbury. Yeah, we got one and of course we have a 451 member which is always very cool So please continue to support us best podcast in the universe they say it because well it's true And we do not take political money The Romney and Obama campaign, Democrats and the other guys, Republicans they're spending a billion dollars each. Guess where that money is going? Yeah little bit to parties and a little bit to jets and stuff most of it's going to the media who are just messing with you. Yeah and guess where the money is coming from...the public! Yeah exactly they're taking your cash and they're giving it to douches

1:56:07 Is that what you're saying? To the media. They give you and turn bad information What kind of a deal is this?! It's a shitty deal, is what it is! Now here's a better deal for ya Alright everybody its time to celebrate! Sir Thomas Nussbaum congratulates himself He celebrates on the 13th That was nice seeing you And Saint Nicole there DC. Richard Harriman congratulates Dr. Christina Lake on the 12th, that'll be tomorrow. Eric Bottenfield says happy birthday to his brother Phil Paxton turns 33 tomorrow. Girlfriend Kelly says hey Jeremy Cooper happy birthday to you today and Aaron McGuffin

1:56:51 says happy birthday to Sir Joe Cool. Thank you all so very much for using our little show to bring congratulations and well wishes of many more years from your buddies here at the NO Agenda Show We have got quite a list today John people are checking in. I need two swords Yeah, you might as well once you get your ninja star You're throwing stars out that could actually be kind of handy we got a lot we've got a lot of guys But this is very good i'm very happy to see that people are getting in before the end of the year and

1:57:31 Now that is so they can still receive their night rings. And nice to see everyone stepping up here and completing the knighthoods just in time for the end of the universe, I'd like to call forward Michael Klink Joseph Frost Darren Phillips Greg Filer Rick Bressler and Sir Snorri Staines wife Lady Arctic should be a lady in a moment, she'll be a dame and Paul Sankowski All of you have reached the status of Knight or Dame here at the Noah-Jenner Roundtable, so let me chunk all of ya in one go. Sir Michael! Sir Joseph! Sir Jaren! Sir Greg! Sir Rick! Dame Lady Arctic and Sir Paul welcome to the Knights on the Noah Jenner Roundtable! Hookers & Blow... Rent Boys & Chardonnay... Then what do we have? Sushi & Geishas...?

1:58:20 Geishas and sake. Hot pants and booze, of course if you want to thank you all very very much this is very exciting to have such a list today it just I am humbled. And I like it's on 451 which is the you know road homage to Fahrenheit 451 yesterday from Ray Bradbury which was a very good story we were talking you know about the campaign stuff and Gary Johnson, very interesting. He was interviewed... hold on a second I've somehow for some reason I've gotten like

CHAPTER 30 / 37 Discussion

Gary Johnson Lawsuit Against Presidential Debate Commission

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has filed an antitrust lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) for excluding third-party candidates. The hosts report that several sponsors, including Philips Electronics and the YWCA, have withdrawn support for the debates due to their bipartisan rather than nonpartisan nature. They recount the history of the League of Women Voters withdrawing sponsorship in 1988 after the major parties attempted to control the debate format.

gary johnson· commission on presidential debates· antitrust· league of women voters· ross perot· third party

1:59:01 duplicate clips here. He was interviewed and something that I did not know came to light about the way that the elections take place in these United States of Gitmo Nation, so for those you don't know we have these debates and it's rigged Because there's only two people invited to the party except the last that was it Ross Perot He was invited to there was a three-way debate. Yeah, I caused the problem Yeah, cuz he made sense But he also had like a billion dollars of his own so he was able to buy in you know He would pony up to the bar

1:59:37 And, you know it's just like me running for 2016 along with John. You know we're not going to get in and I've deconstructed a little bit of that but here is something very interesting i did not know as Gary Johnson has interviewed. It really the issue my name isn't included in the poll but when it is included its always a surprise on the upside if were not included in the CPD debates The CPD is the campaign... what does it stand for again? CPD? I gotta look it up No I got it here campaign, a commission on presidential debates. So this is these are the guys that determine who's in the debate who gets on television so he's not included in the debates however

2:00:21 Three sponsors have walked away. Yeah terrific I mean that it's unprecedented and they're making a statement not so much in support of Gary Johnson But just that hey, this is this isn't a fair process It's not it's not a two-party country. It's not a two part It's not a two party country And there's no opportunity for us for a third voice ever given the setup I think that's what they're saying you filed lawsuits to get into those debates even still Into the two remaining debate exactly exactly Do you think you have any chance of getting into those debates? Well, you sure don't have a chance if you don't file the suit. So we filed the suit and we're filing it on antitrust grounds which is a new look at this something different and um...

2:01:01 You don't stand a chance if you don't file the suit. So I really enjoyed hearing that three of the sponsors of the Commission on Presidential Debates, who essentially pay for the television broadcast have pulled out and i'm going to tell you which ones they are... If we could find them here Here we go Sponsors dropped out Who was pulled out? Phillips Electronics It's very interesting when you find out who these sponsors are. Phillips Electronics has pulled out, as has the British advertising firm BBH and the YWCA, the Young Women's... What is that? What's the C in YWCA?

2:01:52 Young Women's Christian. Athletics, is that it? Athletic Association? Yeah I think so if you look at the sponsors for this year they are... I don't know what the eight means anymore yeah the ones that are left over our Southwest Airlines which i find very disappointing because I like them so much and now I think I'm gonna have to not fly with them anymore because there a part of this douchebag cabal The Kovler Fund, just like some banker. International Bottled Water Association – long-time sponsor by the way if you look They've been sponsoring these debates for many many years The Anheuser Busch Company so I'm not drinking any Budweiser anymore but here's an interesting one the Howard G Buffett Foundation You have any idea who Howard G Buffet is?

2:02:38 Is it related to Warren Buffett? Yeah, it's his son. Oh and so these are the people that sponsor it I pulled their form 990 because of course they're a non-profit here's how it works in the non election years they make about $50,000 a year In the election years It's about six million dollars How does that work And their mission here, I'm reading from the form. Organize produce finance and publicized the general election debates for candidates for president and vice president of the United States of America other related educational activities are held in non-debate years such as conferences and symposiums which i think should be symposia but that's up to them

2:03:22 So I think it's very cool that Gary Johnson has said, you know screw it. I'm suing you on antitrust and I should be in the debate and I think he is absolutely right He has no chance whatsoever of getting in but it is important that people try this! I think that's good. I like him even more for that Well, it was probably Ross Perot's being in the debate in the first place that caused the original sponsors of these debates which was The League Of Women Voters to withdraw their sponsorship because apparently this is in a wiki you can read it. After the Bush Dukakis campaign secretly agreed to a memorandum of understanding that would decide which candidates could participate into debates, in other words no third party and which individual panelists

2:04:10 were able to ask questions and the height of the podiums as you remember there was a kind of weird scandalous thing about them. Uh oh, uh oh John stop stop stop stop do you know what that means? Count me down baby count me down count me down 5 no 4 no not quite need a little bit more in 2 ladies and gentlemen welcome to 10 11 12 13 14 15 Alright, let's get back to business. Anyway the height of the podiums you remember that there was a scandal but you know the podium heights being this and that anyway The League rejected the demands and released a statement saying they were withdrawing support for the debates because quote the demands of two campaign organizations would perpetrate fraud on the American voter which they do! Yes! Exactly! And bingo now we got what we got You know I was thinking about this

2:05:06 about our whole value for value model. And let's just point out that these sponsors who pulled out this year, they pulled up because they say it's not nonpartisan and it's bipartisan is only two people who get to play and it's bullcrap! And you didn't know that? Really?! Okay... You went through all the paperwork and you sponsored and now like oh gee this is no so good... Like we only know this now Stupid morons. But anyway, I'm glad they pulled out. I have a feeling John that you and I think we could do a presidential campaign on Kickstarter If they would allow it as possible why wouldn't they allow it? They have their nobody knows the secret. Okay see what we should work on that and Gary Johnson because you know You are considering voting for him. I think I'm considering not considering yeah, you are voting for him

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

Gary Johnson's Fair Tax Plan and Consumption Tax

Gary Johnson advocates for the "Fair Tax," a plan to abolish the IRS, income tax, and corporate tax in favor of a single 23% federal consumption tax. The hosts discuss the potential benefits and risks of this system, noting that the U.S. government was primarily funded by tariffs prior to the 20th century. They jokingly suggest running a 2016 presidential campaign via Kickstarter based on a value-for-value model.

gary johnson· fair tax· consumption tax· irs· corporate tax· tariffs

2:06:04 I'm torn. I'm still on the fence, I think Roseanne Barr is also interesting. I'm not saying that... Here he is about his tax plan. Do you know about Gary Johnson's tax plan since you're voting for him? I don't know anything anymore. All I know is that he has got a pretty face and talks softly. That's only reason to vote. I would have voted for Romney but in fact I like torturing people I'm advocating eliminating income tax, corporate tax abolishing the IRS replacing our entire federal tax system with one federal consumption tax. I am advocating a fair tax Let me ask you about that real quick Fair Tax meaning no separate corporate tax? Exactly No corporate tax Income tax No income tax No IRS Simple consumption tax Replace all of it with one federal consumption tax

2:07:02 Is it staggered? Nope. What would the rate be? 23%. But it ends up being cost neutral over a very short amount of time and let me use a can of Coke as an example, a can of Coke that sells for $1 today arguably has 23% embedded non-transparent tax in in its can of coke and that would be corporate tax that coca-cola pays it would be social security that coca-cola pays as a match and by the way under the fair text there would no longer be withholdings from your payroll check. No more withholding for Social Security, Medicare unemployment

2:07:38 all of that would come out of the proceeds of the fair tax. Governor, you've advocated... Throw in a blowjob and I'm voting for ya! I don't even think he needs to do that much! This is as good as my $40,000 rebate! It was 30 thousand by the way. Oh, I jacked it up. Is great? I love it! No, you can't put a guy like that on the stage because everyone in their right... nobody in their right mind would vote for the other two guys. Yeah they'd be like yay! You have to vote for this guy unless there's a bunch of people out there and I don't get these people but there's a bunch built up well I think we need taxes and taxes are good and you know these tax nuts that think that bigger more tax we pay the better off we are Is that Massa Tax Nuts? is that where they're from

2:08:20 Massive tax nuts. Massive tax nuts? Hey man, like a big massive tax nuts! That's a good one that somebody some talk show guy could pick up on massive tax nuts. That is actually a show title I think it that's the show title massive tax nuts. Massive tax nuts. Massive tax nuts. I'm from massive tax nuts What?! But isn't that first of all a consumption taxes is that like VAT Is that basically what he's saying is that is at the same Yeah but there wouldn't be anything else. But it is dangerous yeah but it is dangerous because then they can start cranking that up Yeah, it is. In fact do you realize before the income tax laws were passed? Before we had like the turn of the century before they cropped up Do you know how we financed the government 90% of the financing of the government was done through tariffs PayPal donations no tariffs so all the junk that were this is what he should go after all the junk We're buying from China That's what got taxed right at all kinds of different rates

2:09:18 And that money is what went to the government to pay for things. You want to buy junk from China? Go ahead, just pay for it." No, that's a good idea... I'd like to... In 2016 when you and I run on the Kickstarter campaign sounds good. Yeah, in total agreement I think we should really up the ante on imports and get people making some crap here at home! In fact if you make something through a Kickstarter campaign well you will not be taxed or anything if its value-for-value model Right? So if you raise funds from your customers, I'm not going to tax you on anything. And i'll give you a blowjob! You heard him That's part of my campaign Meanwhile... And you can visit him in Austin Texas he is listed That's right and you could find me on the Googles Meanwhile

CHAPTER 32 / 37 Discussion

Obama's Fuel Standards and Section 199 Tax Breaks

President Obama claims that new fuel standards will double vehicle efficiency and reduce dependence on foreign oil. He also targets $4 billion in "taxpayer-funded corporate welfare" for oil companies. The hosts argue that these are not special subsidies but rather "Section 199" tax breaks available to all U.S. manufacturers, including software and media companies, and accuse the president of misrepresenting the tax code.

barack obama· fuel standards· section 199· oil companies· tax code· corporate welfare

2:10:07 President Obama came out and said, and once again was my this is my I gotta play it. This is this is my pet peeve. This is my pet peeve. After 30 years of inaction we raised fuel standards so that by the middle of the next decade your cars and trucks will go twice as far on a gallon gas. And today United States of America is less dependent on foreign oil than at any time in two decades So now its time to move forward My plan would cut our oil imports in half and invest in the clean energy that's creating thousands of jobs all across Ohio, and America right now. Not just oil and natural gas but solar and wind and clean coal technology and fuel efficient batteries and fuel efficient cars

2:10:54 And I'm not going to let oil companies continue to collect another $4 billion in taxpayer-funded corporate welfare every single year. All right, he's talking about section 199 of the IRS tax code this has been around for a hundred years section 199 anything that is produced in the United States including software including movies radio programs, in fact arguably podcasts if we were a corporation which we're not. Get these tax breaks just like oil companies. This is not some favoritism that the oil companies have been receiving It's because they make so much money and pay so much in taxes already that they benefit to the tune of billions for section 199 it would be discriminatory So it's okay Just say I'm going to cut these guys off, but don't pretend like they've been getting some kind of free ride You're a lying sack

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Vice Presidential Debate Preview: Biden vs. Ryan

The hosts preview the upcoming vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan. They predict that Biden will use "zingers" involving Big Bird and the "47%" comment to satisfy the Democratic base. The discussion characterizes the American electorate as easily manipulated by television indoctrination and suggests that both parties rely on lies and "sugary coated cardboard" to win votes.

joe biden· paul ryan· vice presidential debate· big bird· zingers· political strategy

2:11:50 I don't see Curry's pet peeve of the day. Hey, so we might as well talk about that briefly. So tonight we have a douchebags round two Yeah this is good and these guys are worse than the other two Oh I got it here's my feeling oh Biden he has got a woody right now He is so hard for this He's like I'm gonna come out there and kick this bitches ass

2:12:37 I can't wait to see this. This should really be a fun one because he's gonna be... He has a good shot by the way of looking really good. He is a dingbat! There is no way that he is going to look good. No, you know what? He is going to play dirty. He always does. Oh, I don't think there is any question at all about that but the problem is couple things are gonna happen. This is my take One is There was a lot of criticism of Obama for not using all the zingers they wrote. Zingers! They apparently had a bunch of zingers that he could have dropped on and there were some of them floating around, they said well you could have said this or you could've said that and they're zingers but oh Biden is going to grab the zingers he says I can use these

2:13:30 And he's gonna use, because he is not funny and thinks that he is. He's going to use them at inappropriate moments. I can guarantee you one Big Bird mention and one Sesame Street vs Wall Street. Yeah probably. Maybe even more. And a 47% mention which everyone criticized him for. And he's gonna call him out for lying. He is going to say, Romney is lying! He's gonna say this to Ryan that your boss is lying. He's gonna say lying This is what the Democrats are all angry about Obama didn't call him out for being a liar man

2:14:11 You see, you have to understand American people the electorate in general is stupid. Not people who listen to this show because they're switched on and awake and they know what's happening And they know that it's all bullcrap but doesn't matter who you vote for The bankers run this show But the Democrats or liberals, or progressives, or whatever they call themselves. They literally believe that you can present a case of reason and people will then make an informed decision now. You're stupid! This is not the way it works. You can't dumb down a population for four to five decades of television indoctrination and selling them sugary coated cardboard and think that they're now smart

2:14:55 You just gotta go with the lie. That's what we love! That's why Ron Lee is brilliant! He went up there and just, you know... And Ryan if he smart he's gonna say it's not true I don't know what your talking about man We walk on water and I'm going to give everyone of you a blowjob. I'm telling ya this which people will lap it up They will lap it up Do you think? I mean you got tell me am right Uhh..I think well I don't know if his that smart but I think your generally right By the way, this is how we're gonna do it too. We're just gonna go when we run for office We were like we're gonna give you $30,000 a year twice So any oh I'm sorry? I was lying It's 40 thousand twice times two and we're going to do that We are Oh by the way weed you kidding me. We are going to we're going to drop seeds when airlift seeds and Drop them in every single public park so that weeds are just growing everywhere

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Adderall Prescriptions and the Medicalization of Poverty

A New York Times article highlights Dr. Michael Anderson, a pediatrician who prescribes Adderall to low-income children struggling in school as a way to "modify the kid" when the environment cannot be changed. The hosts criticize this practice as the state-sponsored distribution of "synthetic cocaine" to children. They discuss the severe side effects of ADHD medications, including stunted growth and potential heart problems.

adderall· adhd· michael anderson· medicaid· ritalin· concerta· cocaine

2:15:58 You can go ahead and you harvest that, you smoke up. We're just gonna lie! Actually I'm planning on doing that part. That sounds kind of fun. Did you read that New York Times article about attention deficit disorder? No, I guess you missed it... What?! It was about Michael Anderson. What? New York Times? Well, you subscribed to it. Yeah. I couldn't pay attention to it. I couldn't get through the article

2:16:35 This is a dr. Michael Anderson the attention the the title of that it's under the health section and it's from I think it was from Wednesday or Tuesday The title but his attention disorder or not pills to help in school, oh yeah this is a great story so The story is essential and I'm just gonna read the main quote of the article Well, here's the intro. When Dr. Michael Anderson—this is in Canton Georgia—hears about his low-income patients struggling in elementary school he usually gives them a taste of some powerful medicine colon, Adderall which has the exact chemical compound as cocaine I might point out and here's the quote. "'I don't have a whole lot of choice,' said Dr. Anderson, a pediatrician for many poor families in Cherokee County north of Atlanta

2:17:26 We've decided as a society that it's too expensive to modify the kid's environment, so we have to modify the kid. That is awesome! Yep And it literally like...that just what it is Medicaid covers every single penny of the doctor and prescription and kids are doing great on Adderall Have you seen numbers? The numbers are up Test scores are great? Kids are peppy?! This year is the worst SAT scores in the history of the United States. Oh wow, that's because we haven't propagated enough Adderall!

2:18:12 The worst ever. That's how well they did or the guy running the Department of Education, yeah I didn't know that Anyway people who are getting A's and B's I won't give it to him he said for some parents the pills provide great relief Jacqueline Williams said she can't thank Dr Anderson enough for diagnosing ADHD in her children Eric who is 15 Shakira was 14 and Shamya Shamya was 11 And he also prescribes Concerta, a long-acting stimulant for them all. Concerta for all I tell you! She said each was having trouble listening to instructions and concentrating on schoolwork but now the kids are doing great and they can stand on one leg with a book on their head and a chapstick between their teeth. Awesomeness!" This is so sad

2:19:04 This is so incredibly sad. Please, I've said this before... Before you put your kid on Adderall and i have not tried Concerta what was Concerta? Is that the I haven't seen it. I think we may have done an ad for it. I have a feeling we've done an ad for this as well By the way, not in add that we got paid for we ridicule the ads. It is listeners methyl fen Methyl phenidate Oh fenadate then Fen Okay So let's oh, it's Ritalin so you see You have the Ritalin which is the downer and they have Adderall which is the upper?

2:19:43 It's, it's... Actually Ritalin is an upper too. No it's not! Uh-uh! No no no, Ritalin is.. I thought it was an upper? Nooo! If that's your needed down then its a down or upper. Nooo! Ritalin is for the kids that are uh...too active Yeah but isn't in an upper that doesn't have the opposite effect on wild kids? You give the wild... I'm looking it up. Yeah you look it up but here's what I understand You give the, I've not tried Ritalin. I've tried Adderall and please parents before an if you're listening to this show and your giving your kid Adderall turn off the podcast and go iron your face And you shouldn't even be listening to this show if you are doing that but let's just say it is possible that you have fallen for this trap and you are giving your kid synthetic cocaine which is just go look at them It is synthetic cocaine Take it yourself See how you do

2:20:41 See how you do. And don't just take it once, take it like the kids being prescribed three times a day! I took this crap once and was tripping out for 14 hours Now the real one I gotta try that one...and concerta Does anyone have any leftover concertas? Just get some from your kid and send them to me Still no Haldol by the way Disappointed about that Yeah sure, I guess there's no other drug in the show but ale curry But it is so incredibly sad. And I think it was Buzzkill Jr who turned me on to the crystalline structure and has shown me that this is literally cocaine, it's legal cocaine! There are kids who mosh up Adderall pills and snort them, I'm reliably informed. Well there you have it. It has the same structure as cocaine. The riddle...

2:21:45 Did you look it up? Well, it's hard to look it up. No, it was easy looking at but there is way too much information about it. It may cause sudden death in children and teenagers especially children or teenagers with heart defects or serious heart problems the medication we also call a sudden death heart attack stroke an adult especially adults with heart defects are serious heart problems talk your doctor about the risks of taking this medication And there was a... Oh, and by the way Ritalin may slow children's growth or weight gain. Your kids will be a midget! Your child's doctor will watch his or her growth carefully they must talk to your child's doctor if you have concerns about your child's growth or weight gain while he or she is taking medication. He's not growing, he stopped growing. Hey, he's not growing. I'm just having a midget beating me up at school with the bullies So i was reading

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USA Today Redesign and Autism Wandering Code

USA Today has undergone a significant redesign under the leadership of Larry Kramer. The hosts discuss the new layout and a specific article regarding a new CDC medical diagnostic code for "wandering" as a condition of autism. They mock the medicalization of normal childhood behavior, suggesting it is a tactic to increase prescriptions for drugs like Ritalin and Adderall.

usa today· larry kramer· autism· cdc· medical codes· wandering

2:22:41 USA Today and I have to say you know we were traveling again and even though Southwest has a couple of planes with Wi-Fi, I typically won't do it. I'm just like... It costs eight bucks or something is ridiculous Yeah and i was listening to podcasts that was nice. I got my groovy V-Moda headphones so it's really cool zone out for bit. USA Today has been redesigned if you notice this? yeah they're all having a ball apparently. I think they are doing very well Well, the guy that's running it is a friend of mine. Oh really? Yeah Larry Kramer He was the guy who started Market Watch That's how I got my job Really! Well get me a gig in... Let me get me a gig writing for USA Today Nah he won't take any more calls anymore Oh really Why not

2:23:23 You tell me you know this what happens, but his name is Larry Kramer. Yeah, okay? That's a fake name come on No It's real name Larry Kramer easy the editor with a case editor-in-chief Really anyone so if I send an email say hey Larry it's Adam John's friend Yeah, I say he won't take your call. Okay? So oh it looks like it Oh no, and I met this guy sure you did He's used to being a service go Barry was the editor of The Chronicle for awhile Started market watch made a lot of money bought a new car All right Then he then they got screwed because when he was running Market Watch They were the whole plan was to sell the whole thing lock stock and barrel to CBS who bought seen at

2:24:01 and CBS was outbid by Dow Jones, and Dow Jones took the thing over. And then they kind of let the Dow Jones people tell him what to do, he got sick of it left... He took a couple other people with him recently Did he get a younger wife? Not that I know off Listen this one of Kramer's responsibilities at The Examiner was managing gonzo journalist Hunter S Thompson Yeah, his quote. That's when I was there. He says if I can manage Hunter, I can manage anybody except for that Dvorak man he's out of control. Man we can't take that guys call anymore it is no good

2:24:41 Yeah, so anyway Paul. So I really like what they've done with the USA Today! I think it looks great Well he's a smart guy so i mean i think the thing will be improved and they're going big time online well from what i understand They had digital designers create the paper version but also im reading articles Im like wow this is pretty good And they had this whole article about children with autism And it was a hilarious article. I'm reading through, so I read the paper version and then they have that little QR code like oh I'll scan this and then I got the online version that worked surprisingly enough and so you know as a kid John, you've run away from home haven't ya?

2:25:31 Why would I run away from home? Oh, come on. You never said, I'm running away from home and you went out and you hid under the tree for 30 minutes No Really?! Why would I that's dumb Come on. Every kid says I'm gonna run away from home at least once you never said, I'm gonna run away from home You never know why would I well? I don't know now. I feel that a pleasant home environment weird When I was like six is when I was talking like this Never okay well maybe I'm weird if your parents are mean to you oh

2:26:11 Well, I don't feel good now. You should! I was abused! Apparently you were! Well anyway... So if you wander away from safety i.e., from home there is now a the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has recently created a medical diagnostic code for wandering as a condition of autism so not only do you have autism if your spinning But if you just wander off, every kid in the world wanders off. No every kid now that's a fact if your at the airport that why we put our kids on leashes. They wander of and now they'd be diagnosed wrong! Now they get some awesome medicine. I wonder how much this guy gave them the medicine and their parents grabbed it

2:27:08 And sell it on the black market and tell the kids now you study hard because if you don't know You're not taking the medicine. You better study and get a there'll be no Christmas for you kid Okay, so she told your kids won't run away because of abuse he's just making him get a interesting your kids got a they're all straight-a students are you selling their Ritalin in their Adderall I There you go. Supplemental income, Dvorak! Mmmmm... Wow. Entrepreneurship at the earliest stages. There you go. Wow. Awesomeness.

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Huawei and ZTE Banned from US Infrastructure

A U.S. congressional committee has advised American companies to avoid doing business with Chinese telecom giants Huawei and ZTE, citing national security concerns and ties to the Chinese military. The hosts argue that this investigation was likely instigated by Cisco's lobbyists to eliminate a major global competitor. They point out the hypocrisy of these concerns given that most American consumer electronics, including the iPhone, are manufactured in China.

huawei· zte· cisco· chinese government· espionage· telecommunications· lobbying

2:27:50 Alrighty, let's see if I had it. I mean, I had all kinds of stuff that would get you... No, QI got some stuff. Yeah. A couple things. Walk me home before I wander off? Yes. Here is a good report apparently Afghanistan is doomed! Oh really?! That's news to me. There was warning that the government in Afghanistan could collapse after the withdrawal of western combat troops in 2014 A think tank based in Brussels says President Karzai's government is increasingly unpopular and plagued by corruption and fractionalism. NATO says it disagrees with the assessment." This is breaking news in the UK? Oh my goodness! Afghanistan's a mess! One of the stories we haven't covered on this show, and I don't think has been covered too many shows as the Huawei kerfuffle with the US Congress

2:28:41 And so I took the report on it right from China News just before they went into their complaining about the islands. Now wait a minute, Huawei is these guys? Huawei. They make routers? It's the Cisco competitor Yeah, the McRoberts. Essentially as far as I can tell they've taken all the patents they could take made a few of their own did a deal now there's cloning Cisco and another company called ZTE and they're both been banned from selling anything to the US government for reasons that are kind of discussed in this report but it is just a two-part clip and you background is in part one and you can listen

2:29:17 Now to the United States and a powerful congressional committee is telling American companies not to do business with China's two largest telecommunications companies, Huawei and ZTE. It's the latest in a series of reported concerns about these companies which nevertheless are increasing their share on the US telecom market. Correspondent Jessica Stone has more from Washington. Huawei and ZTE, two major telecommunications companies based in China each doing business in 140 countries around the world including the United States. Well good morning... But on Monday an explosive report from the US Congress its chief authors alleged a cozy relationship between the corporations of the Chinese government allowing Beijing to access and meddle with critical U.S. technological infrastructure

2:30:09 Huawei and ZTE seek to expand in the United States, but as a result of our investigation we do not have the confidence that these two companies with their ties to the Chinese government can be entrusted with infrastructure of such critical importance. Yeah no problem to have your iPhone made by them Geez. Yeah, well yeah actually that's probably more interesting an observation anyway the second part of this clip was and I'll talk about what interests me about the whole thing after this is that there has an interesting factoid in it that I thought was interesting I thought was fascinating but also not especially

2:30:50 Never mind. Interesting, not especially interesting however we will listen to it. The report's evidence the companies failed to explain their relationship with the Chinese government to the satisfaction of the US Congress. The company is acknowledged Communist Party offices located on site which is a common practice even for Western companies operating in China. The report also points out that Huawei's founder Ren Zhengfei served in the Chinese army and the company still has military ties. Okay so by the way if you go to Boeing

2:31:26 Yeah. And you go into the office area, Navy's got an office there... I mean this is a cool way to get these free office spaces Everybody does this so there's no big deal but here's what the real thing is This is obviously rigged by Cisco because Huawei is a huge worldwide threat Of course It's a douchebag company I mean everybody, I've talked to people when I was in Brazil. Oh, I ran into a guy who worked there and he says these guys are the worst! He says their whole marketing strategy for example is they follow around an Ericsson salesman when it comes to putting big switches in And they go in which is a great way to sell things How much did you... Because your taking a bidding Yeah so how much was that bid? Then he goes in and just says oh 20% less 30 Wow

2:32:16 30% less. What would they, yep! 30%. So you can't outbid them there just a good and so I guess Cisco has decided to push these guys that keep them from coming in here although there's some phones coming in and then I think your point about the iPhone is more valid than any concerns that we should have about the router not just the iPhone I mean it's everything yeah basically everything I'm looking at right now how about my Mac mini I mean, everything. Everything! It's all China stuff Yeah no so this is just a... This is trumped up by Cisco and the lobbyists Which you know it's..it's....I don't care When are we gonna put those Chiners in their place? Never gonna happen No Not when they're standing around with a chopstick in their mouth Now that my friend Taking orders Is the most true thing you have said

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Freedom Fiends Debut and Show Sign-off

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude episode 451 by promoting the new "Freedom Fiends" show on the No Agenda stream. They remind listeners to support the show through the value-for-value model and look forward to the next episode on Sunday. The hosts sign off from Austin and Northern Silicon Valley.

freedom fiends· no agenda stream· value-for-value· austin texas· silicon valley· episode 451

2:33:08 That's right. As long as they can still get their slaves to stand around on one leg with a book on their head and a chopstick in their mouth, there is no way we can beat them! We have no discipline at all I tell you. No, we got noodles kids. They're Chinese noodles! They are, actually. Coming up on the No Agenda streams we have a brand new show Freedom Fiends they come on live every Thursday at 3 30 p.m Eastern noagendastream.com and noagendachat.net And consider us as your choice just two citizens getting by

2:33:47 At Dvorak.org slash NA as your value for value proposition for this week we will look happily forward to seeing you on Sunday for the program Yeah, don't forget show four five two wouldn't mind somebody jump on that little meme Exactly and also if didn't open a newsletter why don't you go check it out and see what you think give us some feedback Coming to you from... We only get half the people there are on that list ever opened a newsletter That's not like that's a peeve or anything Hey, coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here in Gitmo Nation, Tejas. In Austin in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I forgot to write stuff in The Red Book oh well...I'm John C. Dvorak we'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda