Episode 447 · Thursday, 27 September 2012

Drone Double Tap

New reports on lethal drone tactics in Pakistan expose the gap between humanitarian rhetoric and the psychological terror of constant aerial surveillance.

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About this episode

A landmark report from Stanford and NYU exposes the 'double tap' drone strike tactic in Pakistan, where follow-up missiles target first responders and civilians attempting to rescue the wounded. This revelation contrasts sharply with President Obama’s United Nations address on the right to assemble without fear, as CIA-operated drones maintain 24/7 surveillance and psychological terror over residential areas. The study highlights a grim reality of lethal technology that mainstream media outlets like NPR frequently frame as a strategic game between national security bloggers.

In the United Kingdom, Prime Minister David Cameron faced scrutiny after failing a basic history quiz on the Magna Carta during an appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman. Meanwhile, the BBC issued a formal apology to Queen Elizabeth for disclosing her private concerns regarding the extradition of radical cleric Abu Hamza. In the United States, Ambassador Susan Rice remains under fire for her initial characterization of the Benghazi consulate attack, while a massive drug lab scandal in Massachusetts threatens to overturn thousands of criminal convictions due to falsified evidence and improper handling by state technicians.

Cultural oddities round out the analysis, from a University of Tennessee student’s hospitalization following a dangerous 'alcohol enema' to the viral Facebook riot that devastated the Dutch village of Haren. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also weigh the merits of a $166 monthly lease on a Chevy Volt against the risks of proprietary parts. The show concludes with a look at Howard Stern’s street interviews, which reveal a startling lack of basic political awareness among the American electorate as the 2012 election approaches.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

Art Platform Los Angeles, Mickey Hoogendyke World Tour 2012

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from Los Angeles and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss Mickey Hoogendyke's art exhibition at Art Platform Los Angeles and her upcoming show in Washington D.C. The conversation covers technical preferences between Nikon and Canon cameras, specifically the CMOS technology used in the Canon 5D.

art platform los angeles· mickey hoogendyke· nikon· canon· washington post

00:00 Drone Smackdown! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday September 27th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 447 This is no agenda Reacclimating to the all-night helicopter ops in Los Angeles I'm coming to you from the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And boy I sure do hope that the mix works out. I'm in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... What do you mean the mix works out? Well your real loud and it sounds really low and its modulating. Oh well at least your here. You're loud then quiet then loud again. Your in Los Angeles Yes I am in Los Angeles we are here for the Art Platform Los Angeles

00:52 Which is opening tonight, Ms. Mickey being featured her art on Expo here as part of the Miss Mickey Hoogendyke World Tour 2012 Of which I am in the entourage That's great! Hey man she does well She has an eye Oh yeah and we have to point out that John you actually identified that a long time ago And you helped me purchase her first camera Yes, we selected and she went with the Nikon brand. Yeah well she went away from that by the way where'd you go to Canon? Talking to somebody about this yesterday why are you laughing the 5d or d5 or whatever it is? That's the one you want debate The I was talking to this guy who's his cannon shooter And I've always was when in the film days I was a nikon user and

01:45 And I've used both of these cameras, both the lines and the digital. Yeah? And I have to say that if i had a choice I'd go with the Canon In fact when we got her first camera there was no canon option There was no D5, now I don't think that only thing... The D3 didn't even exist! Well yeah, the D5 people really like It's a but what I like about the cannons. I mean the lenses, I think are equivalent on both of these these groups But the can just feels better it has it's something in the chip because I know a lot of people that use it for video There's something in there some magic mumbo-jumbo or something that first ones to go with the CMOS always added There's okay You know the technology so they kind of ahead of the game on that everybody else is sticking with CCDs for as long as they could right

02:29 And then Canon right off bat went to see Moss even though it takes out It's harder to do because of the filtering is there noisy and I guess over the period time they've They perfected it. So anyway, so yeah, so she has a gallery representing her and then so we'll be here now this is like a four-day show and They're on sale you know, so I'm like You know, I'm very interested in Mickey's art as you can imagine So I'm like, okay. I'm gonna hang around and make sure that you know if I hear the cash register ring I'm gonna go jump on there. They're gonna have with a cocktail they opening with the Gratuitous Chardonnay. Yes. Yes. And I don't know

03:11 I will let you know if it's plastic cups, but that is tonight's plastic cups. I'm Stunned if was anything other than plastic cups You know and but we have so we have lots of people who are coming out to support her even some people flying in from Austin which is very cool So that's five days or four days here. And so I'll also be doing Sunday show here from Los Angeles and we're staying at friends a friend's apartment our condo which is way cool because obviously, you know Can't just hang out in LA in a hotel for five days then we We go to DC

03:52 Next week so we kind of we I think we go back to Austin for one day and then we're on a DC where she's at her second show which is the emerge Art show and actually The Washington Post featured her One of her pieces of work yesterday. Oh, well, they don't get The Washington Post. So Well online you do. Oh, yeah online Yeah, hmm. I tweeted the link. Thanks. Thanks for looking at my legs. Yeah. Yeah, of course Anyway, hey it's a twitted tweeted link. Oh tweeter tweet the tweet tweeted I tweeted yesterday Yeah, yeah, right well anyway enough of Mickey yeah exactly let's say well Let me just say that we had a fun little Fun little trip coming out here for those of you who missed this no agenda travel tip the first time around I would like to reiterate that These days because of the way the airports are set up

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

TSA Premium Line Travel Tip, Security Checkpoint Valet Service

A travel strategy is shared regarding the lack of verification in airport premium security lines, particularly when flying Southwest Airlines. The narrative describes opting out of full-body scanners at Austin Bergstrom Airport to receive "TSA valet service," where agents carry bags to the inspection station.

tsa· southwest airlines· austin bergstrom airport· premium line· travel tip

04:52 They pretty much don't have any checks and balances to see if you're going through the premium line with a Premium ticket or not So, we of course flew southwest and you can look at all the sheeple standing there like okay we'll move on. We'll wait in line here but you can also just walk right into the premium line and go up to the front of the line and just pretend like you got a first class ticket and the TSA officer is not checking if you have a first-class ticket No, they have this new thing by the way. What's your first and last name? Since when did this start have you had this happen yet? What's your first and last name and then Mickey of course is always like her real name is Miriam who Hogan dag And they're like and then I am more standing next to him like there will be a test later Can you say that name? Anyway that didn't get my humor So we we opted out of course at Austin Bergstrom not a problem

05:53 And I kind of like it now and I actually tell the TSA agent, so first of all here's the travel tip. First of all always go through the premium line with your coach ticket this is great no one checks it and you can just speed right to the head of the line everyone's looking at you like well I wish I had a first-class ticket! Then you opt out and what happens now... This also a little new I think they say okay don't touch your things point to your bags on the belt and I'll carry them over to the station, to the fuel me up station. I always say, you know, this is a great deal because not only do you carry my valet service Exactly. It's valid its special TSA valet service and I get to dress You know in a nice little area where the people aren't bumping into me? I don't have like, you know be walking on my socks everywhere or people are you know slapping belts around it is it is so you just say thank I really appreciate the TSA valet service You'll make friends

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

TSA PreCheck Program, Lowe's Hotels Corporate Collusion

The TSA PreCheck program is analyzed following a press release from Lowe's Hotels & Resorts offering complimentary enrollment to loyalty members. The discussion highlights concerns over the collection of biometric data and the perceived collusion between government agencies and corporate loyalty programs.

tsa precheck· global entry· lowe's hotels· department of homeland security· biometric data

06:58 So you didn't have any incident? I thought you had an incident. That's the only reason that was kind of interesting Not really well, the reason i bring it up because there is um This whole uh... There is a story that I want to talk about briefly or two stories actually regarding the TSA One is You know this whole pre-check program which is trademarked by the way A TSA Pre Checkmark You've been following this Why are they trademarking this Well, I think i'm starting to figure it out because this press release now the whole idea with this pre-check thing is you give the government your biometric data so an anal sample retinal scan fingerprints whatever and then supposedly

07:43 You can go through a special line. We don't have it at Austin Airport, nor will I ever get it. You can go through a special line that is apparently faster and you do not have to take off your shoes or take your laptop out of your bag. Of course, you still need the naked body scanner so you're giving up your biometric data And I believe that this is turning into a huge commercial operation because here's this press release about the PreCheck program, and it's totally a PR news release. Lowe's Hotel & Resorts announces coordinated effort with U.S Department of Homeland Security

08:25 as Lowe's is the first hospitality brand to offer complimentary enrollment to global entry and TSA pre-check. So Jonathan Tisch, the chairman of Lowe's Hotel & Resorts and Lucy Napolitano announced their joint effort this is now three days ago to promote the Trusted Traveler Network And I guess Lowe's is offering you the first platinum loyalty rewards members complementary enrollment in the Global Entry Program and the Pre-Check program. So this is total collusion of government database collection and loyalty reward programs, and I think that this is just the beginning

09:14 And this will, you know pretty soon it'll be on your Walmart card. You'll be automatically enrolled It'll be an opt-out so you're automatically a part of it and I find this to be very nefarious really This collusion with corporate entities on these types of programs I think is weird! You just went helium Okay well let me just fix anything that's right Yay! So while you're doing that I will line up the second TSA story that i had and this flows right into the war on guns or war on ammo etc. And I want to make sure that you're back, are you back with me John?

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Philadelphia International Airport Gun Discharge, Republic Airlines Incident

A news report regarding a Republic Airlines flight attendant whose gun allegedly discharged at a Philadelphia security checkpoint is scrutinized. The technical specifications of the Smith & Wesson Airweight revolver are discussed to argue that an accidental discharge is unlikely, leading to claims that the story may be a "trial balloon" for anti-gun sentiment.

philadelphia international airport· republic airlines· smith & wesson· flight attendant· accidental discharge

10:07 You can hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Listen to this quick news report here. This morning a flight attendant is facing charges for taking a gun through an airport security checkpoint to make matters worse the gun went off Jacqueline Lovey is a flight attendant for Republic Airlines she was busted as she went through security yesterday morning in Philadelphia International Airport She was being questioned. A police officer tried to unload the gun when it went off by accident, firing around into the wall so not only is the flight attendant under investigation police have opened up another investigation into the handling of the gun Now did you hear about this story at all?

10:46 Nope, not at all. And the funny thing is that whose fault was it that the gun went off? Well now here's what's even crazier because I know what's really nuts is we have not seen any interviews this was like a one-off to me this was a trial balloon and I think it may even be fake Because come on! A gun goes off in a TSA checkpoint and this is not huge news I mean actual bullet went through a wall Can you imagine where people would duck in? Come on! What did the bullet hit?! So I believe this is a lie and bull crap story, but here's what interesting. They show the gun in the report and I found Actually found a written report only one or two reports about it online. So this is why I think it was a trial balloon It's the Smith & Wesson air weight and they're very specific about this gun Now are you familiar with the the Smith & Wesson air weight? It's a 38 No, uh, you have to you have to google this and take a look at it so This is a revolver All right now remember so they the the TSA agent

11:46 Tried according to the story tried to unload the gun which consists of oh gee. I don't know like opening up the chamber There's no way this guy can go off accidentally so was cocked No, but even John look at the gun it has a an enclosed hammer You can't cock this gun is they air weight? Yes. Oh, I see what you're saying So it's an enclosed... this is for concealed carry and I think that's a weird looking thing yeah. Yeah but you see it has, I'm sure not using the right terms but it has an enclosed hammer. Yeah there's no hammer so well it's in there but if you can't do it yeah it's called hammerless because then you can see. Right so you can't cock this thing

12:35 So someone had to physically pull the trigger all the way back while the cylinder was still in the gun and it had to turn and then have a fire. Yeah right, this is not... yeah exactly This is not an accidental... It's a revolver! Yes, it's not an accidental shooting I don't think anything was shot And if anything because they're pointing this out and this is known as a very nice concealed carry weapon I think that this was a trial balloon But it probably got messed up with, oh I don't know, Ahmadinejad wanting to kill all the Jews and whatever. It just didn't get any traction So they let it go. But you watch there's going to be more stories about concealed carry weapons and this flight attendant who we have not heard from since... Yeah, you're right this story is bogus This is a design for just part of the very slow momentum anti-gun What flight attendants? I mean come on! And she was on like Revolution Air or something

13:33 Have you ever heard of public Republic Air? I remember that thought they were out of business today even let's check that actually republic That would be funny If they're not even flying anymore Republic airline she's finally in okay Republic Airlines Regional jet still in business, I guess purchased by Northwest Republic Airlines hmm So what airport was this? In Philadelphia. Do they even fly to Philadelphia? That's the question I'm wondering... Destinations Check it out. Ah, looks like they probably do Okay Well Anyway This whole thing is just like okay And you know they're so keen to point out exactly the weapon To me it's just pretty obvious that this a

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Piers Morgan Interview, Syria Contact Group

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's media appearances in New York are analyzed, including his proposal for a "contact group" to address the Syrian conflict. Clips from a Piers Morgan interview are used to demonstrate Ahmadinejad's rhetorical style of answering questions with counter-questions regarding 9-11 and the war in Afghanistan.

mahmoud ahmadinejad· piers morgan· syria· tehran· 9-11

14:38 Well, obviously they didn't want to put it in full gear. So that's why I never heard of this story Well, that's what I mean is I think that there was just too much other stuff and there were some other amazing promotions going on I mean really really good big Promotional stuff. I mean this whole man. I don't know where how many clips did you send me? Do I have all your clips here 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 ok 16 That makes sense Okay You know we had this the whole Ahmadinejad interview which I think i have exactly zero clips from with Pierce Moran. He didn't have much to say it's always the same, there is one thing that did come up in that I caught on the Asian news oh which was Ahmadinejad speaking

15:30 Play the clip, this is a translation of course. Again from Asia, the US didn't cover this at all we've talked about these kind of thing going on a couple times it still has never been discussed by the mainstream media Iran meeting in New York City play that Ahmad Nijad also says Iran is one of nearly a dozen countries forming a new contact group trying to end the 18-month long war in Syria. Members will include 10 or 11 countries in the Middle East and elsewhere, he says they will meet in New York very soon So we talked about how the Egyptian guy decided to put together a team of four countries including Iran. And now apparently there's a bigger group that has formed out of half or dozen countries and this is his contact group, so we don't cover it. Yeah no this is his contact group and didn't they already have a meeting in

16:28 in Tehran a couple weeks back. They may have, I think they had this first meeting. This meeting is going to be in New York City which I find fascinating! Well it's so obvious that this is one big joke to everybody just we're not in on it actually I do have one clip This is Pierce Morgan asking Ahmadinejad, and I love these quotes. It's almost the if you were a tree what kind of tree would you be Mr evil Ahmadinejad? He says so if terrorists had flown into your building and killed 3 000 Iranians what would you have done wouldn't you have retaliated? 9-11 in Tehran how would you have reacted to the country that you believed had done that

17:13 So you're saying that the country of Afghanistan was at fault, was responsible? I love... so what happens here and this is why you gotta listen to this. He starts interviewing Morgan and he just he starts asking the questions pierce starts answering them being at this possible party as a whole nation i think it is inaudible that al-qaeda anasama bin laden's uh... men works for him were training in afghanistan so afghanistan was certainly knowingly harboring terrorists who were training to commit atrocities but they don't want to be used to have seen me from high you believe that you can I do believe

18:09 that no matter how long you and i are other people speak this is unexplainable allow me to ask you do you believe that the various administrations of the united states were successful in eradicating terrorism they haven't been has the problem been resolved or has it gotten worse well its hard to see he's answering his questions, this guy is a dummy. He's masterful this Ahmadinejad So the approach was wrong, the formula was wrong. My answer would be clearly it has been partially successful in the sense that Al-Qaeda has been unable to commit another attack of that magnitude since and again I come back if you were president of Iran and that attack happened in Tehran

18:55 it wouldn't have been acceptable to your people for you to do nothing. Not at all, surely we would have pursued the perpetrators not...not to seek an entire nation but I ask you this during another question years during the last decade how many American forces were lost and killed in Afghanistan and Iraq even today? So he does this so well And no matter what the question is, and I've spoken to many people since this interview. They're hearing completely different things. They are hearing, He wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map! But he never says this...

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

Howard Stern Street Interviews, Voter Information Gaps

The ease of public manipulation is discussed through the lens of Howard Stern's street interviews and a documentary by Nancy Pelosi's daughter. These segments highlight voters' lack of awareness regarding political candidates and their willingness to agree with nonsensical premises.

howard stern· nancy pelosi· barack obama· paul ryan· voter manipulation

19:40 should palestinian people, he always turns it around. Should Palestinian people have the right to... He just turns it into a question and into some hypothetical and the answer that people hear is always in the question of the interviewer It's fascinating to me how people watch these interviews and literally hear something that has not said Yeah no well thats kind of uh... I have if you want to play it I have Howard Stern action this week no i don't know anything about what happened well and have it as an end of show clip but he said we've got a couple of his guys that went out on the streets nsc's ludicrous questions are people this was uh... nancy pelosi's daughter did some sort of documentary for everything we discussed in order to get there while ago yeah member of the family she went to mississippi find a bunch of them is a dead sister instances boys to harlem to talk to you know obama supporters comfortable with the same kind of question related

20:41 questions that are do where they're obviously they either don't know which seems likely or they're not paying attention and he keeps the one guy keeps harping on The question what do you think it was wise of Obama to? choose Ryan as the vice president That's a great question, and they all went yeah. No that was really smart I God that kind of thing and I will play that at the end because it's a long Long piece we played in. It's got a lot but what's interesting about is the self-assuredness Oh, yeah where people just like absolutely yes great very creepy actually well Yeah creepy But you know it also just shows well yeah It's creepy in the fact that it's so easy to show how how you can manipulate The public actually so I do have

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

CNN Analysis of Ahmadinejad UN Speech, Hegemonic Powers

CNN's coverage of President Ahmadinejad's speech at the United Nations is criticized for its immediate pivot to negative analysis. The discussion focuses on how the media frames Iran's pursuit of nuclear power and the dismissive attitude of "hegemonic powers" toward smaller nations.

cnn· mahmoud ahmadinejad· zionism· state department· nuclear power

21:33 Some clips here of MSNBC both MSNBC and CNN cut off on the dinner John like after. I got minute-and-a-half they just like okay that's enough of that can you guys like sitting there like making sense. Saying, well you know America is kind of evil and they're cutting us off and they're trying to be the boss of us. Is that okay? I won't play the MSNBC one but the CNN one was very funny because then they bring in their analyst and she just makes stuff up on the spot that he didn't say. I do not believe that Muslims, Christians Jews Hindus Buddhists and others have any problems among themselves or are hostile against each other Now this is interesting what he's saying here right? He's saying

22:25 believe that Muslim, Jews Christians you know the Hindus have any problem living together don't have any problem with each other's religions. He is essentially setting it up to say we're being played out against each other which I have to say i'm agreeing with him on this They get along together comfortably and live together in an atmosphere of peace and amity they are all devoted to the cause of justice purity and love The general tendency of nations has always been to accomplish positive common aspirations reflecting exalted divine human beauties and nobilities. He's saying nice things here!

23:03 You know he's saying like, he's you know... Yeah it's bullcrap but it's nice. He's not being a mean- he's not shaking his fist and- No! No no no no. We like to do so uh time to interrupt him I think this is this is no good I mean he's not saying anything horrible we got hey control room here interrupt this douchebag. The current abysmal situation of the world and the bitter... Well, the president of Iran certainly has a whole lot of blame for a whole lot of other countries. What? He didn't say anything! Is that what she said? So we listen to this guy go on and on about how great everybody is. Love and peace, happiness... And there's a lot of blame! Yeah but listen to the analyst she brings in. Thank you love. ...other than his own specifically those Zionists who he always... He didn't say Jews, he didn't say Zionist at least not in this piece he may have said it 10 minutes earlier... Calls them uncivilized Zionists

23:56 Nations with hegemony and arrogance blaming the world's problems like the environment, double standards and cultural problems of poverty on many of those capitalist nations around the world. Jill Dorsey... Hold on a second! Stop stop stop! Here he's but it's the capitalist nations themselves including the USA our own people are the ones blaming us for the environment I mean bullcrap. Yeah, we're terrible at this guy We're gonna kill everybody our corporations were evil So how is he doing that? Um

24:34 It sounds more like he's a democrat running for office in Massachusetts. Let's listen to the analyst for a minute here He is still with me from State Department, our top reporter who always covers that Top reporter John not just as a top reporter she is the tip of the tongue This was not what I was expecting I have to say there is always time for him to turn and get ornery Jill but I was expecting something much quicker A lot more strident language right off the bat See, this is very disappointing. Hey the guy's talking about love and peace and happiness and kumbaya And hey man, this is disappointing to me what's going on with it? Pull out your ak-47 and do something man Yeah you know ashley um It's not over yet so he could still do that but I think again Hang in there

25:24 We're looking at a man who wants to Depict Iran which is a great country by the way. It's a great country just so you know this gets even crazier now I hear this woman Persia and himself As a great man, a great leader who sees the world the way it is which he's a great leader I don't know just a stooge. Isn't this crazy how she goes from? I'm so disappointed to it's a great country He's a great leader controlled by he didn't say it, but the United States you mentioned hegemonic powers and everything is rigged against the lower countries of the world. Yes, correct! Hello? To get out from under the bottom of this and it also plays into his interpretation of why Iran should have at least a capability of having nuclear power he wouldn't say necessarily nuclear weapons

26:20 nuclear power because after all the big countries do it and sometimes that type of message you know the big guys can do it why can't we does resonate with some countries yeah only crazy countries I mean you can't be thinking that little country you, you can have what the big boys have go away! And they just say so matter-of-factly John. So matter-of-faclty. You know? It's just like Well, you know Little countries can't be having no nuclear power. You know that come on where the we're the hegemonics Sounds like a name of a group the hedge monics Monic cats so speaking of deniers This is great Al Gore is cranking up his reality show again and it's that what does it call? It's the

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Al Gore Climate Reality Project, Twitter Impressions

Al Gore's "24 Hours of Reality" event is mocked for its use of "Twitter impressions" as a metric of success. The hosts argue that the energy consumption required for such digital campaigns contradicts the environmental goals of the climate movement.

al gore· climate reality project· twitter· global warming· carbon footprint

27:14 I don't know he does like a 24 hours of some bull crap so he's on Current, he's talking about how great it was last year and listen to his new meme on how we're gonna this is about global warming obviously. How are going to propagate the formula? Last fall we aired our first 24 hours of reality That'd be the first from you. What exactly is a Twitter Twitter impression? I mean, let's see so some that number come from where I've never heard of it Twitter impression. How are you can even? Where's the show and I think we did he get at the number straight from Twitter This is this is the bullcrap just making it up like these no No someone in his office You know, you know Someone had to prove their worthiness and they put together a spreadsheet and said, you know Here's our here's our metrics

28:16 Here's our metrics on how successful we were and we had 120 million Twitter impressions. Oh, that's great! with comments in the social media stream running every three seconds. Oh my goodness John! This sounds like a global warming nightmare here it comes the amount of energy used to do all this bullcrap which is meaningless, you probably set back the environment by at least 100 years we're doomed exactly if these people had instead of being twittering with all their computers on and movement if they'd just been napping That would have saved tons of carbon. And how listening to Al Gore doesn't make you want to nap, I don't know

29:02 Here's his new meme. What? It's fueled by misinformation, well then you should be able to get a lot of energy for nothing. So he says... Is it fueled by misinformation? Yes! He is saying there is a lot of dirty weather, a lot of dirtiness in the weather and its misinformation is blowing in the wind apparently. Here listen

29:42 This crisis has to be understood in order to be stopped. The misinformation includes messaging that it's not happening, that we can't solve it, that we can't afford to act. However together with your help and the full force of our 21st century technology and media, we can stop the misinformation and the dirty weather by shooting anyone with a dissenting point of view. Yes! And we can solve the climate crisis, so please follow us at AtClimateReality Tune in November 14th and for the many influencers out there who have tuned into this summit help us- Hey are we influencers? Can we count ourselves as the influencer team I don't think we're influencing anyone We were just confirming people's deep seated beliefs

30:35 That they haven't had confirmed by the media. Here's his last 15 seconds. Fight against the messages from the climate deniers. Help us by mobilizing your networks and partners, and asking them to watch and participate together we will solve this crisis and we will seize its opportunities thank you so much for all your support yeah not a problem The science is in! Science! Science! Alright. Deniers, yep deniers

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Value-for-Value

The show acknowledges financial support from executive and associate executive producers. Individual donors are thanked, and the "value-for-value" model is reinforced, distinguishing the show's analytical approach from traditional journalism.

executive producer· associate executive producer· karma· knighthood· paypal

31:14 That's us. Hey, let's thank our um Oh I yeah before you just stall for a second because they did not open the spreadsheet yet Okay i got it in i got it here Yeah so you just want me to like do a little dance or something while uh play a jingle okay? Uh oh i have this one again Yeah i've uh i got the whole uh the rig all set up now so uh okay okay you're right okay we have uh... i don't have a one-digit well we get the one executive producer in one two three four five associates holy moly and this is good that yeah it's or hankson seattle washington dot three came with your twenty five dollars to become executive producer for shows for force seven devoted less so listener in semi boner

31:58 Guilted into donating to the best podcast in the universe. I could use some weight loss karma I also missed the Lucifer Hillary nickname hello, where have you been? I think he used at least three times last show Lucifer clippity-clop that we've got karma oh there you go There's your weight loss Karma Joshua Paulson and Ridgefield Washington hold on a second tonight Can I give Thor a little tip There's a book called, what is it Mickey? The four day...Mickey. Hello? Hello to Mickey! The book that we got from Chris the 4-day diet was it called the four day food for yeah but what was the name of the book do you remember the name before our diet now it's the slow carb diet yeah sounds like another gimmick no okay all right do you remember Chris Breshears Yeah how big was he I was thin as a rail

32:58 All right, you can be a dick all you want. Anyway work for him Paulson Ridgefield Washington $250 to all listeners of the best podcast in the universe I made the mistake of traveling without allocating karma to my credit card and was flagged for fraud And I was nearly stranded and then called repeatedly at 3 in the morning No, I'm a state Oh no, and Joshua will actually become a knight today So let's make sure we give him some extra travel karma there You've got karma right on Tyler Fox or sir, Tyler Fox to you Flagstaff Arizona 4 2 4 2 4 250

33:40 My name is Sir Tyler Fox, not Taylor. I guess somebody said Taylor last time. Who would that somebody be? Probably me. PayPal typo after... Ah! It's a PayPal typo after the legal name change so that's what happened wasn't it me? No, not your fault. Amazingly PayPal didn't miss a beat with my monthly 3333 donation when they made the name change I am Knight formerly known as Taylor Stewart This donation should bring me to my second knighthood. Adding up all the donations made under my previous name, I would like to gift my second knighthood to my best friend's wife. Oh! Hey. Hey now. Kim Morrer She is a loyal listener and works hard to keep me... keeps- To help keep me wake up her husband

34:24 It works hard to help me. Whoa, I feel Kate to wake up her husband Oh who doesn't like the listen to the show? I guess he's still resistant to many of the hardest truths Explained twice weekly and the best podcast in universe please give me some hey citizen karma for a loan I've been trying to get approved Hey, I don't see you. I don't see Kim more on the list so as I just add her as a dame and I presume Well JC is probably listening. So he'll go check the numbers Yeah, I just want to make sure that we do you know we can we now we do have some accounting anyway? so We'll give a little bit of hey citizen Hey, where'd my hey citizen go Oh No The citizens oh here it is all right. Hey citizen there you go You've got karma There we go alright. We're still good. We're good alright Toby knots in Kenilworth Illinois Checking the mail two three four five six

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36:07 Oh, you said last? Actually we don't- We're really analysts. We're not really investigators. You know someone on Twitter just this morning... Wow can hear all the sirens and everything here? No. Someone this morning on Twitter was yelling at me saying on Twitter yeah and say they Twitter page views that it have well I think about a hundred million impressions this is mantra train he's like Adam you don't check your sources like what are you calling me a journalist I mean would you stop calling me names please when I'm not one journalists you know check your sources

36:48 You know, it's like... We're analysts. Yeah! Hello? Analysts. Yeah, analysts. Analyst are different than journalists. Journalists actually report we read documents and analyze And give you our opinion So that'll conclude our executive and associate executive producer segment with our helpers or executive producers and associate executives for today show 447 go to Dvorak.org slash NHNLDVORAK. Com slash na to no agenda show you can click on the donate button there or a no agenda nation calm There's also one there You can check that out and we appreciate continued help for the upcoming Sunday show where we got some pretty good stuff coming up I betcha and I would like to thank Nick the rat for the previous artwork on the artwork on the previous episode four four sixes This is Noah Jenna episode 445. And before we'd go any further Let me just give you a big in-the-morning their John C Dvorak

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

No Agenda Super Karma Coins, RFID Casino Chips

Sir Ernie's creation of the "No Agenda Super Karma Coin" is introduced. The discussion touches on the design of the coins, which resemble casino chips, and the use of RFID technology in modern gambling establishments.

challenge coins· super karma coin· rfid· casino chips· value-for-value

37:46 Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water and all the Knights Yes that listen to this show religiously I want to say hello to them too. And thank you to our Executive producer and associate executive producers for today's program more thanks coming up in our donation segment Of course You can always help us by going out of propagating our formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth And I did want to mention that Sir Ernie is back.

38:32 Sir Ernie has done several challenge coins for the show. Now remember, the way our value-for-value model works is you can do whatever you want with a program. You can take our names, logos, copyrights... nothing exists just do whatever you want! You can sell T-shirts, rain sticks we'd appreciate if you gave us a little bit of proceeds and helped us out and he's back now with the No Agenda Super Karma coin Have you seen this John the super karma coin? Yeah, but I haven't got one. It's what no, I don't have one either This is the 12 12 21 Supreme hyper karma coin and if you go to know agenda super karma comm You gotta take a look at this thing now. I saw it it looks like a Little like a poker chance just gonna say it looks like a casino chip does

39:29 So he's got a surprise that somebody hasn't done that for us poker chips. Yeah No agenda poker chips, then you can just take into the casino and see if they'll fall for it You mean no use only we play friendly game at home Yeah Okay, now we have all kinds of games. You know those chips in the casinos now they got RFID on every one of them. Oh really? So you can't take it or so the table knows what it is you mean? Yeah table knows what's going on. Hmm yeah well who says that there's no RFID in these you don't know that could be all kinds of stuff in these karma coins look you know proceed with caution

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

Project X Facebook Party Riots, Haren Netherlands Incident

A massive riot in the Dutch village of Haren is linked to a viral Facebook invitation inspired by the movie "Project X." The event is analyzed as a potential PR exercise for the film's DVD release and a demonstration of how social media can mobilize bored youth.

project x· haren· netherlands· facebook· viral marketing

40:16 I'm wondering if those CIA got challenge coins that we have. Yeah, how about the piggy bank? It's not only has an R it's it's transmitting is traveling. It's got a little coin changer Just in case they need to raid your house put in another 20 Bank alone there's not enough in it the guys broke so I got um A whole bunch of emails this morning apparently in Gitmo Nation lowlands. Now, this is funny because I scoffed at you You had this clip about the Facebook party gone wrong up there in the north of Holland

40:56 Right, with a hundred thousand people saying they'd attend. Well yeah but three or four thousand actually showed up and it turned into... So of course you know not being in the milieu as you would say it this actually was quite a scene and it turned ugly and everyone started rioting and they basically broke this entire village And what was in the newspaper this morning in the Netherlands, because of course the Netherlands is shocked about this. They're shocked that this could happen while you know The rest of Europe burns as we have people rioting for actual reasons You know like no food No house. No job This has not hit the Netherlands yet but people are shocked and

41:39 The article is saying, well we had the army ready. The troops were and they have a big picture of a tank We had the army ready but you know They uh...the local guys didn't quite know how to reach out to us And we have to be ready for the next time and yeah don't worry will set it up Yeah, we should've put-we should've brought in the army They should have been there their troops should have been on the ground to stop this atrocity and everyone's like wow my oh My god, they're actually gonna roll out The army on the ship... Because a bunch of kids are having a birthday party? This is pathetic. Well this is what's interesting because, and I only learned this morning from our host where we're staying, this whole thing is based upon a movie called Project X have you heard of this movie

42:21 Not yet. Okay, so Project X apparently came out a while ago of course coincidentally the DVD Blu-ray is now being released it's now being promoted and I believe it's being promoted in Europe now it came out in June or July here in the states. And the whole premise is, and I have the trailer for you 30 seconds of the trailer... The whole premise is a Facebook party everyone shows up the house burns down. Until someone burns the house down. A new Blu-ray combo pack from the guy who gave you The Hangover. This is way more than 50 people. Of course it's plus one! Come moments you couldn't remember

43:08 Cuz you never saw them. What about this? What if my parents see it nobody's gonna see this for us Have you seen the footage project X extended cut? Watch this on the blue a combo pack and digital download June 19th So I think we can see more of these taking place as they roll out the DVD promotion Outstanding job, I call another PR PR success is what I'd say talking to JC Oh yeah Noah is a winner We missed it because we did the same thing. I mean this movie connection, actually when i brought the clip of that if I had known that at the time I could have dropped it on you when you were going... No no you would have had clip of the day absolutely because I looked over and like and I didn't know what Project Egg was apparently is like this cult hit from people who brought you The Hangover geez sorry I must've missed it

44:05 But I'm sure it's on Netflix, so we'll have to take a look at it now. It is so easy to get the stupid youths who have nothing better to do into this stuff now! This isn't just an exercise in PR for the movie... ...it's an exercise showing how you can get these stupid children to do all kinds of crazy things And, um... They're bored. There's not- You know when I was a kid we used to have- When I was a kid, kid We used to have commu- There used to be things called community centers and kids would actually go there Yeah! And all kinds of activities Arts and crafts

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

NFL Replacement Referees, Political Distraction

The controversy surrounding NFL replacement referees is dismissed as a "distraction of the week." The segment highlights how high-level politicians, including President Obama and Paul Ryan, weighed in on the sports labor dispute to gain public attention.

nfl· replacement refs· barack obama· paul ryan· distraction

44:47 Well, there was pool tables. Paper mache! There was a dance thing they would do all the time It was amazing Arts and crafts not so much I remember it was something place to go I remember my mom would drop me off She had to go somewhere...I don't know what she was doing You know she's probably spying somewhere They're like we'll just drop you off at the community center And then we'd like do crayons and.. I was young Arts & Crafts paper mache I remember that You're still in high school. I think when that happened, uh-huh. Yeah the crayons you're so funny So funny so let's get a couple things out of the way First of all there's the ludicrous the ludicrous beyond ludicrous distraction of the week Oh, please don't tell me this is about the stupid Football referee thing stupid thing ever but i don't even know This is so beyond me that i don't even know what the hell is going on? I'm like and peep when someone

45:48 People were emailing me saying this has got to be the distraction of the week I'm like you're so stupid because you're already the fact that you're even watching football. I was thinking well This is gonna probably blow over but now all the politicals got involved, so play my clip and he ended with a huge again in first you're gonna hear the tweet that obama made about it now has been paul ryan's go on about it and then the kicker is yours truly coming out not yours to me but your best friend making a commentary site please meanwhile president obama weighing insane nfl fans on both sides of the aisle hope that rest lockout

46:25 is settled soon and Mr. Obama is not the only prominent politician who has a problem with the NFL's replacement refs. Give me a break! It is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of President Obama in The Economy if you can't get it right its time to get out No I did no think that was a touchdown I thought the pass was intercepted and yes it means that we need to get the strike over and get more experienced people in there. And we asked you on Facebook

47:02 Okay, so just for the you know we have people around the world listening who have not been involved in this stupid distraction It's a Larry. Would you please explain? What's going on because it's just it's it's such a song okay Well people around that were all having their sports or low You know they're sports that they like and our sport that we'd like to most apparently United States is professional American style football and uh... the the bastards who own these teams are so cheap they're making millions and billions of dollars literally make some time to get you your showing a little too much passion passion for the whole let me get out of the way you sound like it is owners decided to just sit did fire all the referees in bringing up by jay amateurs from high school and they've been botching these games and now its could come to a head

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

University of Tennessee Alcohol Enema Incident

A University of Tennessee student's hospitalization for a 0.40 blood alcohol level following an "alcohol enema" is discussed. The hosts criticize CNN's graphic reporting of the incident, suggesting it serves more as an instruction manual than news.

university of tennessee· alcohol enema· cnn· blood alcohol level· fraternity

47:54 And so yeah, I had no idea that was going on and uh... and i'm very proud of it. Sorry, hold on a second. However! I did catch this news. Now we want to go to Tennessee where a college student nearly died after consuming large amounts of alcohol through rather unconventional and disturbing way Can you guess what that is? No tell me An enema So now, Aaron has my attention. The University of Tennessee student was taken to the hospital in critical condition with a blood alcohol level over 4.0. Tonight he's out of the hospital but the university is five bed a couch. I think you're dead at that point. Yeah, I don't see how you can get through that one!

48:37 fraternity apologies but let's get in depth let's find out what this new trend is about John has been suspended amid an investigation our George Howell is out front tonight following the investigation and George appreciate you're taking the time it's a really disturbing story a disturbing image to imagine this happening I love how she brings up the image so I'm like okay let me think for a second guys got a tube in his butt And someone's jamming some alcohol. Yes, it is rather disturbing! Aaron thank you for bringing that up on your news station. So what exactly went down? Well Aaron these facts are disturbing to say the least as you mentioned a blood alcohol level of 0.40 That is five times the legal limit investigators are looking into... so what is it point four oh or 4.0

49:22 Because now we have conflicting information. I'm very confused to it trying to get to the bottom of it sounds like unless they've been point four, I think well she said it wrong that's too high for percent blood alcohol you might as well just be yeah that's not you can light your good don't don't light a cigarette right? Yeah don't light a cigarette they believe that Alex Broughton used an alcohol enema yet more alcohol into his system is this what the kids are doing john this is so awesome now I want to read the statement from police they kind of break it down there was a law and order about the alcohol douche or tampon you sell right, yeah sure I remember that. I remember the douche

50:01 Anyway, this is good because I'm going somewhere with this as the way they see it happening upon extensive questioning It is believed that members of the fraternity were using rubber tubing inserted into their rectums as a conduit for alcohol Why is this story? This is like it. This is like it's just giving people to roar bad ideas well This was kind of my question is why is this a story? It's making me sick to listen to it. It's an instruction video as far as I know. These people at CNN think its like valuable information Well, yeah Hell yeah! Hell yeah. It greatly heightens the level and speed of the alcohol entering the bloodstream- I think it's a- Okay, stop it, stop it, I can't take this. No no, it's instruction you have to listen carefully As it bypasses the filtering by the liver Now I do want So they actually just explain why it works so well To mention that we've heard from Broughton's father He has indicated that is not the way it happened he said his son What?

51:01 What? The liver is not as though you ingest the into your stomach when you drink alcohol that it goes into the liver. First, it goes into the bloodstream then it goes into the liver and it's always going to go into the blood stream then deliver so I was gonna do the same thing the other way. It's not bypassing the liver. Well this is bypassing the digestive system This is CNN with their information I'm not a doctor, but i think im right on this.

51:42 have it shot up your butt. The alcohol absorption is the same, the difference is you get more alcohol into your system and that is the problem here so much alcohol again 0.405 times the legal limit and that's what he had to do with it. How does this make any sense? Hold on a second! He says the absorption rate's the same So how do you get... if the absorption rates are the same how do you get more into your system which they should be... sketchy description of how you know what they're trying to say. They don't know what they're talking about let's say that and they should have brought in Sanjay Gupta on this one yeah I mean it would have said something cool. Gupta should've done the... but so why is the only way that did that I drink? So, why is this happening there has to be a reason for this story. A movie's coming out 3D The Enema okay could be a movie

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Spanish Bank Bailouts, Mortgage Debt Laws

The economic crisis in Spain is examined, specifically a unique law where citizens remain liable for mortgage debt even after bank repossession. Protests in Madrid and the use of rubber bullets by police are discussed in the context of massive bank bailouts.

spain· austerity· mortgage debt· bank bailouts· madrid riots

58:26 They're beating the crap out of them. So here's a little piece, a tidbit I picked up off of Democracy Now that i didn't know about and I can see why people are rioting play The Banks in Spain clip. Maria Carreon you've spoken also about some of the effects on people already with the austerity measures in place quite apart from what might happen tomorrow Can you talk in particular about housing and food? Housing is a big issue because a lot of Spaniards ended up buying houses or homes back during the main housing boom. And what has happened since then is that, first of all, they bought these houses at

59:12 very inflated prices have happened in many other places uh... but here we have over twenty five people percent of unemployment so as people began to lose their jobs and uh... outcome at that housing payment went up mortgages went up more and more people uh... that it's not their homes there was a red bearded been every possession of many many many home and in spain something very unique throughout the system which is that even once you're repeating at the back repossessing your home and even when did you read picked up from your home newton-home still are liable for the entire debt

59:52 i think that might have been not only people are people on the street or having to you know find alternative housing and pay for it but they also hundreds of thousands of to the bank this is aggravated also by the fact that most of these banks are being bailed out right now to the tune of one hundred million euros which at about a hundred thirty million i'm sorry one hundred fifty billion euros which is a hundred and thirty billion dollars because of their irresponsible lending practices. Okay, John? Actually by the way 130 billion dollars is more like 160 I mean euros is more like a hundred sixty billion dollars. I'm going to give it to you today. It wasn't hilariously funny

1:00:43 But it was, that was extremely informative. I didn't know that either. That apparently this like you go to the Ford company and they sell you a car small car Focus. Yes. And now your battery car $15,000 on the car and then they say we're taking it back US $15,000 what? What? You take the house back, that's the collateral that you took the loan out for. And... and! It's not like now you still owe them money. No no no. Wow I'd be in the streets too throwing stuff. AND they shoot at you Yeah and they're shooting at ya meanwhile the bank has a huge bailout. Yeah and of course the banks actually control everything and their like hey banker A says to banker B go out and shoot some rubber bullets at those dumb slaves

1:01:35 Wow, this is awesome. Well I have a little related clip which explains... well listen to this from the BBC, I thought it was pretty good. Michelle who are these people? Oh this is not the BBC, I'm sorry its Kudlow and he asks who are these people that are getting shot at? People in the streets, are they government union people or who are these protesters? That's a very good question. Not really! protests that you see in Europe are often, most of the time orchestrated by the unions. This was far more about younger people being out there so this was not organized by the union even though the unions have been extremely active with protest in Madrid as well but remember they've got youth unemployment there that is

1:02:14 Right, so I like this because we know that a lot of the unions particularly you know we have the big supermarket protests and people are raiding supermarkets and those are all organized by unions but this is real. This is real as you pointed out Real anger, real frustration And that is really dangerous when this happens You...and when you see them with the actual footage which they don't show on any of these shows No because of course not! That would give us an idea Yeah, so the mainstream media in the United States will not show these riots. I mean you get it on Democrat... but when you see these good footage You see it's a huge range of people from students to old men and people, everything short of being in wheelchairs I mean it is everybody and they are irked And Greece has gotten to the point now where there's just fire bombs everywhere They're throwing Molotov cocktails at the police It's really completely crazy

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

Susan Rice Benghazi Talking Points, Ambassador Stevens

UN Ambassador Susan Rice is criticized for her initial claims that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was a spontaneous response to an anti-Islamic video. The segment explores theories regarding the true nature of the attack and the extraction of weapons.

susan rice· benghazi· ambassador stevens· glenn beck· libya

1:03:11 I don't know how long you can suppress this. Eventually they're going to have to come up and say, hey this is not a... You know orchestrated by the unions This isn't spontaneous craziness Spontaneous combustion But maybe they'll just say no it's all because of Project X This is what's uh.. No It's because that bad video that on DVD We can blame anything now on a video Yeah, I like the idea. I got a little compilation here of Susan Rice. I just want to remind everybody that now that the President and Secretary of State and the entire administration has effectively admitted that the attack or killing

1:03:56 Ambassador Stevens was a planned terrorist attack. I would just like to remind you of what Susan Rice, our ambassador and henchwoman of Lucifer CliptyClop Clinton was doing last Sunday on every single news show in these United States of Gitmo This is a response to hateful and offensive video that was widely disseminated throughout the Arab and Muslim world. We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude this was premeditated or preplanned. We don't see, at this point signs of coordinated planned premeditate attack In fact what this began as it was spontaneous not premeditate response to what transpired in Cairo

1:04:46 So when does someone who lies like this, don't they have to resign at a certain point if you're just caught lying? Don't you have to go away? You should get a promotion, is that what really happened? She'll probably be the next Secretary of State. I mean this is unbelievable and where is the outrage over these lies and all of these douchebags every single one it was you know Stephanopoulos she was on Kandi Crowley at CNN she was on The Fox thing with whatever Mike Wallace no one is saying hey you're a lying scumbag Susan Rice

1:05:24 No one is doing this, no one said it to her face. There's no outrage, no articles, no nothing Of course she's not out there partying down we're not seeing much of her but it really really annoys me that this... Yeah I can tell This is just and then here's another thing It was obviously staged from the get-go We had Chris... We called it We called early like right away same day almost And it was obviously an attempt to grab those weapons and they had to go back with a phony baloney protest supposedly of protesting the poor guy's death. And the weaponry was I guess grabbed Here is another meme that she has propagated By the way, I should mention that Glenn Beck on his show

1:06:08 Deconstructed it pretty much much later than we did but he did pretty much the same thing Oh really, and he had a whole bunch of like he showed like the car He says this is not the car you drive. He admitted that Beck admitted that he drives a bulletproof car oh I didn't see this yeah that he has a Security detail who goes out and is there ahead of him? Yeah armor car Obviously and they says the guys were seals which are not and by the way the seals and I we mentioned this back in the Bin Laden time frame during that uh, era of the show which is I guess two years ago. Uh the SEALs are mostly for their extract this particular group of seals or extraction experts and which was... Oh really? Huh! Well yeah this is one that was sent to Ben Laden's place too which is what was fishy about it and so these distract-I mean they had to get these guns and I guess there were some shoulder fired you know missiles or whatever I don't who knows we don't know

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Religious Titles, Prophet Muhammad vs King of Pop

The use of the title "The Prophet" before Muhammad's name in government and media speech is questioned. An anecdote is shared about MTV being contractually obligated to refer to Michael Jackson as "The King of Pop" in all broadcasts.

prophet muhammad· michael jackson· mtv· susan rice· nomenclature

1:07:07 We had to get the extractor stuff. So there's another little meme that Susan Rice was propagating and I picked this one up on the... And it has been used over and over again, and i'd just like to talk about for a second She uses this on The Candy Crowley Show Condemned the violent response to this video and frankly we've seen these sorts of incidents in the past. We've seen violent responses to satanic verses, we've seen violent responses to the cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad in an evil way... Okay so there's two things she says here. She says depicting the Prophet Muhammad in an evil way um this is very loaded to me

1:07:50 So let's start with the evil way. What does that mean? Evil way so he was thank you darling He was depicted in a way that was evil or in a in The depictions were evil, that's a good question Yeah, so I think I think what she no it's not a great question but I think what she means is That the depictions were evil And I find that disturbing because she's editorializing and making a government decision on what is evil or not. And evil is a strong word, just ask the Google guys! But when... do we have to always call this guy The Prophet Muhammad? Isn't it just Muhammad? Does Jesus have a title? Or God? Is he the only

1:08:40 The only religious icon that gets like this kind of moniker? I know, you have to look at the NBC pronunciation gazetteer. The what?! You know the networks I think it's NBC this is the best one. I may have a copy somewhere It's used in broadcasting and network broadcasting as the final arbiter of how you say things ah? You don't have a you've never seen that pronunciation as a tear or whatever well, I'll tell you no But I did have this we had once we had an issue on MTV And this was a cotted this must be

1:09:18 Mmm, I'm not sure which album it was but he was going to be on the Video Music Awards and they had made a deal that we would do a whole Michael Jackson weekend And the way we did it is we taped these there's weekends. We would tape on Thursday and That will be for Saturday or Sunday because nothing was really live on MTV And so you know, we do what was called a 48? And so throughout the whole Thursday were taping everything all the VJS all the news segments Everything is for the weekend So we didn't have to actually work on the weekend Then we got this frantic call Thursday night. Everybody has to come back We're doing three days when I'm not only just doing Monday on Friday But we're doing the weekend all over again all the news reports everything because as a part of the deal And I don't know and I know if it was Michael or if it was The Record Company but The Record Company had a written agreement with MTV that every single time we said Michael Jackson, we had To suffix that with the king of pop

1:10:15 So we literally had to go back and retape 48 hours of programming. Oh God! To say Michael Jackson comma the king of pop, and I think that this is what you know somewhere there's some kind of deal with the Prophet Muhammad The Prophet. The King of Pop! Why don't you just leave this stuff and go, And Michael Jackson... The King Of Pop! We'll be out here in a few minutes and we're gonna- You talk to Michael Jackson? The King Of Pop! It was believe me it was cheaper just to bring all stupid hair talent back. It was a lot cheaper trust me than doing all that post production but I think there's some kind of deal

1:10:56 It's like somehow there's some deal we have to say the Prophet Muhammad. Does everyone, does everyone do the Muslims just say Mohammed or they always say The Prophet Muhammad? I'm curious because for Susan Rice to say this... The Prophet Muhammad in front of every Muslim generally speaking Do we say Jesus the Savior all the time no No He's got a better PR agency working for him. Just things I wonder about. Probably the, you know, CARE or one of those operations... Oh in the chat room is that you have to say Prophet because there are so many Muslims named Muhammad there might be confusion! That's true it's like every other Muslim is named Muhammad. Muhammad and 20 guys go what?

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Abu Hamza Extradition, Queen Elizabeth BBC Apology

The BBC's apology to Queen Elizabeth for revealing her private concerns about radical cleric Abu Hamza is discussed. The segment also addresses the legal implications of extraditing a UK citizen to the United States for crimes not committed on American soil.

abu hamza· queen elizabeth· bbc· extradition· terrorism

1:11:43 No, I meant the Prophet. Oh okay all right so I got a... I'm gonna get killed now for making fun of this I'm sure! I'm going to be depicting the prophet in a cute way. You're not making fun of it you're discussing it yeah so let's go with did you know Remember the clip last show where we did guys the guy in Pakistan says, oh you want the maker of that film? And we're gonna kill him. Yeah, I died it yeah Pakistan's right can deal with them because the United States keeps pulling this They always say somebody commits a crime against the United States or not citizen do what talking about Julian Assange Of course yes he's not a citizen He doesn't come here He's not as subject to laws in the United States because he's not in the United States and he's an Australian and he's actually in England

1:12:27 But yet, you know we're gonna arrest him. So as though he was an American... Well here's a little piece of news that slipped by the uh this is played during the BBC rundown of stories This little uh... About The Queen? Yeah! The BBC has apologized to Queen Elizabeth for revealing that she'd once raised concerns with the government about the radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza After losing his final appeal, Abu Hamza is due to be extradited to the US on terrorism charges. So okay so we have two things in this one story One is the Queen apparently was outed by the BBC for raising concerns about this creep who was a cleric I think that part of London is all Pakistanis

1:13:18 and he's the one who says, well all the planes from the sky should be brought down. We should do this and that. He said you know he's advocating a lot of violence which wasn't apparently against the law in England but it's against our law in some way so we're having the guy extradited and tried here for terrorism! Is not an American? Yeah, how does that work? We have to do that. I think it's you know the guy is a douchebag and there is no problem with somebody dealing with him. You're misunderstanding John! There's an international law that is run by elites and bankers that we have nothing to do with. It's their law they do whatever they want and we as stupid media enslaved idiots go okay

1:13:59 So meanwhile the Queen apparently, because this has got to be controversial just grabbing somebody some British UK citizen and dragging them in the United States and trying them for terrorism when they've never even set foot in this country. And they're not subject to American laws that I know of The fact that the Queen apparently had brought this to the attention of the government and makes it look like she was complicit in getting this guy, the heave-ho out of her country which is just... This is again we don't need these guys in our country to begin with but anyway okay he's gonna come over here. So I guess the BBC busted her on this and they had to apologize to her for bringing this up because the Queen, you can't just... The Queen's business is the Queen's business. It's not the business of the BBC to be discussing anything that the Queen does. Yeah! Of course not

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

David Cameron David Letterman Appearance, Magna Carta

British Prime Minister David Cameron's appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman is reviewed. The discussion focuses on Cameron's inability to provide the literal English translation of "Magna Carta" during a quiz on British history.

david cameron· david letterman· magna carta· british history· prime minister

1:14:47 This is a very funny, interesting story. Again I didn't hear this any place else. No no no well you can say that all the time about every single story we talk about if you want... I know it's what i like doing though! Have you noticed that? So you are a big fan of The David Letterman Show Know that that you watch it. I have a feeling you didn't catch it last night not not that I did I put it on the DVR, I haven't watched it yet because I knew idea had enough clips all right in one of Deconstruct David Cameron and God's sake what's he doing on this show? Well? I do have to deconstruct him I so I did not see it Of course But I did catch your report on the BBC and I found this to be very interesting your class nights

1:15:29 he found himself being closely interrogated about British history and culture, and he revealed one or two gaps in his general knowledge. Now one or two gaps in this general knowledge what do you think would be considered a gap just you know if you're the prime minister of of knowing that Scotland's gonna split off I think that would be a gap okay knowing that there were you know what parties are knowing the Queen's name? I don't know. It was, it was about as bad is not knowing the queen's name here to do you mind if i ask you a lot of dumb American questions

1:16:06 far away. The Prime Minister was able to explain the differences between the nations of the UK, the size of the population, the extent of the British Empire and the date and place where Magna Carta was signed but much to his embarrassment Mr Cameron was unable to say what Magna Carta meant in English And the literal translation is what? You have magna... Again you're testing me Boy it'd be good if he knew this That to me, it's like he doesn't know what the Magna Carta means. I mean that's like I don't know what the Constitution means

1:16:46 No, he meant I think he meant direct translation. Yeah but it's the Magna Carta is the charter is the big charter if you know what's... Yes, the Big Magna is big big big yeah doesn't I mean am I just nuts that this that the Prime Minister doesn't know that carta stands for charter and what this is about? This was the Magna Carta is one of the first documents where um the people well not really the people kind of the elites but a lower level than the, uh-a level lower than the queen said hey you know or the king. You can't just be like chopping our heads off we got to have some agreements here it's like kind of one of the founding documents this guy doesn't know that? It's a great charter so it's um what's interesting about that yeah no I guess not. That's ludicrous to me! Ludicrous! No no well no no I'm sorry

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Save the Children Syria Report, War Propaganda

David Cameron's UN speech citing a "Save the Children" report on Syrian atrocities is scrutinized. The hosts argue that the lack of a publicly available report and the use of extreme imagery (e.g., children used for target practice) mirror historical war propaganda techniques.

syria· save the children· david cameron· bashar al-assad· propaganda

1:17:37 The reaction from the David Letterman fans in the audience is ludicrous. I think it's really good for the American public to be able to see him, i don't think they know that much about him... I didn't really have a view of him before this but I sort of liked him, I thought he was a good guy Yeah! He was a good guy These people should be killed Just taser this guy Not Cameron Here's David Cameron, of course the reason why he was on Letterman because he was at uh... u n with all the world leader of the elite or yes this week and they've been questioned but bob i didn't meet with any of them he went to get more important things that you have a clip of that here's cameron opted talking at the u n and listen by is a jaw-dropper because it makes no sense what he saying but if anyone was in any doubt about the horrors that asad has afflicted on his people just look at the evidence published this week by save the children

1:18:35 schools used as torture centers, children used for target practice. A 16 year old Syrian called Wael who was detained in a police station in Dera said this I have seen children slaughtered Okay! I'm glad you brought this up because I went looking for the report and there is no actual report As you'd be surprised to find out John Shocking, I know it's shocking. So nothing better than a meme you know of course the meme is save the children everyone always wants to save the children so there is an actual organization known as Save The Children

1:19:16 Save the children org and if you go to their website look at their press releases There is no report available They have a press release which says save the children calls for more protection for Syrian children But I have not been able to end a donate now button Of course, I've not been able to find the actual report of the 18 children. They interviewed 18 mind you 18 however the BBC did a very good job of unveiling the truth about this report, which apparently they do have a copy of. More now on these stories that are emerging from Syria and this new Save The Children Report Again not available if you find it please send it to me Mike Woodridge is our world affairs correspondent and he's been through the report He joins us now And Mike what else stands out among these harrowing descriptions Of what children have gone through in Syria?

1:20:11 What Save the Children have come up with here is 18 first-hand accounts from refugee children that they have spoken to, that their workers have spoken to. The accounts in their view amount shocking testimony as they put it and collectively suggest to them that children have been the targets themselves. Now listen very closely what he's saying, he is already hemming and hawing now. Collectively okay? Brutal attacks that they've seen in a good number of cases, the deaths of parents and siblings of other children and have witnessed and in some cases they say experienced torture They don't necessarily suggest who is responsible

1:20:55 Aha, very important. They don't say that it was Assad who was trying to cut their arms off for these alleged atrocities Alleged atrocities in the accounts that they have given nor indeed in many cases Is there any time or place to make it clear exactly? What happened so they don't actually know where it happened Or what time had happened or if he even happened at all But they certainly believe that this in in their view corroborates the sort of thing we've heard before from yeah listen man What? Well anyway, is there more to that clip? Yeah a couple more seconds. It's good because he is actually saying this is just bullcrap and other human rights groups as well and so in their view this now even more justifies the UN taking tougher action on Syria and indeed that there should be a process now of greater documentation of the kind they believe they are contributing to. Here's my look at this thing

1:21:53 First of all, the assertions by Cameron were that schools are being used as torture centers. Yeah which is not... And they're using kids as target practice and of course these other kids somehow got out alive so that doesn't make any sense but let's assume this was possible This is not an indictment Let's just say this is all true Which I don't believe a word of it by the way No But let's believe, because it is too ludicrous. Let us believe this all true! This is not an indictment of the Assad regime if this is true... This is an indictment of the Syrian civilization, the people themselves Because you can't do these things in a vacuum If your taking all the kids

1:22:32 you know, who have obviously parents on the only probably shot them and then you take the kids yet torture them and make him run in the field while you shoot at it like crazy. This is not a country that's civilized which begs the question this is so bogus its ludicrous and the fact people lapped this up as though it was possible It reminds me of the crazy propaganda just before World War I that was unleashed on the American public, which by the way resulted in people like Goebbels and others developing propagandistic styles similar to ours. But ours were showing gorillas coming over from Germany carrying women because all these older Germans were great apes that were just rapists! I mean come on this is not...this is terrible reporting that this would be on and Cameron should be ashamed of himself

1:23:23 That was probably the most beautiful speech I've heard you give in a long time. No, please Please help us remember for those of us who were not alive Again how the Germans were depicted before World War one and what and I presume this really started a lot of Of the war. I mean, this is it Is this a prelude when this happens when? When this type of reporting and again people are in the chat room is now desperately trying to find this report There is no report you're sending me the same web page which says Recent press releases and statements save the children calls for more protection for Syrian children There does nothing in here about children being used for target practice Although I do like. I do like the image I think that's a pretty funny image that Cameron brought up for us, and that thing you know thank you very much But this is this must be then a prelude to A world war was a prelude to something

1:24:24 But this goes on constantly, this just malarkey that they feed the public and people just lap it up. It's really disgusting! This is at the General Assembly of the United Nations John! Yeah it was at the General Assembly! I'm sure these guys are... yeah. It wasn't something he said on The Corner No not or not just like you know I just kind of whoops slipped that one out? No He was using- It's a short clip play it again. I think that's a great idea hold on a second But if anyone was in any doubt about the horrors that Assad has afflicted on his people, just look at the evidence published this week by Save The Children. And please, please I'm calling all producers find the evidence okay? Find the report for me! I just want the report why isn't it on their website?!

1:25:14 Schools used as torture centers children used for target practice a 16 year old Syrian called while who was detained in a police station in Dara said this I have seen Children slaughtered there must have been more to that you I think you sold us short. I think there's more to that clip This also reminds me that was the code that was the core of the clip, but this also reminds me of Iraqi National Guard throwing babies out of incubators Right and then taking a lot of VA Viagra so they can so they could rape them or raping. Yeah, I got a rate Hey, hey what you doing Abdul? I gotta go rape a bit give me some of that viagra This is what we do yeah no this is But I'm disturbed by what you just said but this is What didn't we have this what did we have for the Second World War?

1:26:15 What were the images that were why how did we well that was of course? We had Pearl Harbor That's how we got involved there right well, Pearl Harbor definitely showing just a bunch of it Well when they depicted the Japanese are actually depicted in a very negative way yeah to demonize them the Germans They went a little bit back to the world war one thing. We're not quite to that extent because it was actually our real concern but I think our I don't think it took much for us to get into the, i don't know. We did a lot of movies and I think was a lot more subtle we had moved up the food chain in so far as propaganda is concerned except for the Japanese thing which was pretty ridiculous but generally speaking we had gone to a more subtle form of propaganda which has evolved even further to what we have today with the news media because this actually moved into the whole mainstream media yeah the manipulation of the public

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

Revolution TV Series, Physics and Plagiarism

The NBC television series "Revolution" is criticized for its poor acting, unrealistic physics, and alleged plagiarism of an earlier story. The hosts compare its premise to "The Hunger Games" and predict the show will not be successful.

revolution· nbc· hunger games· plagiarism· bad acting

1:27:11 It was done by Hollywood mostly in World War II. They made these movies that catered to, it was usually unfair the Germans were torturers and they... So nothing has changed? Nothing has changed! Look at this! It's improved. Well it's gotten better! It's gotten really good. I mean now, except for our show... Everybody is all in! It's still the same idea though you make movies uh you make tv shows and have you been watching the new show we got? Have you seen this the show you got Revolution and it's all bad acting by the way. Revolution is terrible and by the way it's stolen from another story it's gonna be a scandal

1:27:50 What, isn't it just Hunger Games? Isn't it just Hunger Games all over again. No no there was an actual story that was produced about a year earlier that was submitted to some Hollywood producers that was the exact same story The power goes out and these guys are floating around And there's a bunch of evil guys you know stabbing people The physics of Revolution is so stupid I can't even get through a whole episode! I tried watching the first... somebody wrote in giving us a... Yeah yeah I'm sitting there gritting my teeth for like a half an hour and then about the just shortly after the half of my remark, I said I can't take this. This is off it's off the DVR not going to watch it It is one of the worst shows ever on television I can't believe... And the ratings by the way even though they got decent ratings They ratcheted that was like the first 15 minutes had a big group then dropped off You know this show has no legs its horrible and dumb

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

Ban Ki-moon UN Comedy, Obama Media Appearances

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's attempt at humor regarding President Obama's absence from the General Assembly is highlighted. Obama's appearance on "The View" is also discussed, focusing on the soft-ball questioning by Barbara Walters.

ban ki-moon· barack obama· the view· united nations· barbara walters

1:28:50 Anyway, so this whole elitist thing the UN General Assembly of course said The only thing and are the American news media seem to be able talk about but also I think in Around the world in general is that a president Obama did not meet with any world leaders He didn't meet with BB net. Not it not Yahoo yeah, I think he stopped off and had a quick chat with the guy from Yemen uh... but he really think that i think they get this mid-acted interpretation of this is completely wrong in fact they had done letterman or no john stewart had uh... them king of uh... jordan on his show well and he brought it up pieces hey what's the deal with obama not mean anybody is that it's not a big deal uses overuses over blow nobody gives a crap and then and i think obama much rather like to jump in a seven forty seven and fly to places where you can win on the view here you hang out with their women who are doing anyway have a clip they goes on the view which is never has been quite a bit way but we're going before you do that

1:29:51 Bunky Moon was doing some stand-up. Did you see Bunky Moon's stand up? Oh, yeah play it. The Secretary General of the uh... because after the general assembly they have a cocktail party after the general assembly Was he at Yuck Yucks or was he one of the great comedy clubs He was no he was that the cocktail party for the General Assembly and he was talking about the president not being there I think that he must be busy with something at this moment Or perhaps he must be stuck somewhere in traffic. I'll be here all week my name is Ban Ki-moon everybody thanks for coming. Can you believe that those people were laughing?

1:30:37 So anyway, so I have a clip from the part of that view show and it's like why don't they just this is ABC. It was a view on what network? Anyway Barbara Walters an old ABC hack. And she's good you know stand there big promoters of ABC in general as promoters of Obama administration. She asked this loaded question that was just an obvious softball for him to tee up and slam to get a round of applause by, and I just thought the question was unfair and ridiculous. It's been done. We're elected. Well, you know I think America is so strong and we've got so much going for us that yeah we can survive a lot but the American people don't want to just survive. We want everybody to thrive. We want folks to have a job and success... Yeah! We don't wanna survive, we wanna get by

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Madonna Black Muslim Comment, Political Confusion

Singer Madonna's comments during a concert, where she referred to President Obama as a "black Muslim," are played. The hosts use this as an example of celebrity political ignorance and the general confusion of the public.

madonna· barack obama· muslim· concert· celebrity politics

1:31:38 There's a big difference there. It was unbelievable to me that they would do that and then he just yeah well you know I think we could, yeah we could probably survive if he's elected you know we're resilient people this douchebag wins we can probably get through it i'm not sure uh did you hear um Madonna shilling for President Obama? She said something really interesting. I have the clip here not safe for work Let me put it right right up front to you saying all kinds of dirty words Nothing, you haven't heard before but listen carefully to what she says about the president in this clip

1:32:45 She says we have a black Muslim in the White House. Is that what? I couldn't understand what she's saying. Yeah, yeah! Oh yeah?! Yeah she says we have a black Muslim in the White House like...she's a little confused listen again Cheers this will make the clip of the end-of-show clip even more poignant when you hear it. This is like what? Oh My god, we were doomed but how does she come up with that I

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Glenn Beck Goldline Sponsorship, Media Objectivity

The difference between sponsored content and independent analysis is illustrated by comparing Glenn Beck's promotion of Goldline to the No Agenda model. The hosts argue that taking sponsorships prevents media figures from offering objective advice on topics like gold investment.

glenn beck· goldline· silver· sponsorship· media ethics

1:33:22 She's an idiot. Well, maybe she... Okay I'll take that. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab! Yeah on No Agenda Black lives were made in the White House In the morning Actually have a clip i want to play before we start thanking our people We do have a lot of people came in with some very unique donations including I think the record for 6969 But I want to play, you know Glenn Beck is back on the air and on his own network that he bought and paid for. And this is the, you know, he'll get into something interesting... ...and this is the difference between what HE does in general and what WE do. That's why we have this donation segment. We can play this clip and you'll see what I'm talking about. This is extraordinarily dangerous for your sons and for your daughters

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CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Schwozenoff Donation Streak, Global Producer Support

A massive segment of $69.69 "Schwozenoff" donations is processed, maintaining a long-running streak. Producers from Canada, Portugal, Germany, and the US are acknowledged, and various "karma" requests for jobs and travel are fulfilled.

6969· schwozenoff· karma· knighthood· value-for-value

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CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Fifth Anniversary Donations, Ham Radio Licensing

Donations of $55.55 in honor of the show's upcoming fifth anniversary are read. Adam Curry discusses his progress in obtaining a ham radio license and finding a repeater in Bee Cave, Texas, to communicate with John C. Dvorak.

5555· ham radio· fifth anniversary· cbit· sweden

1:56:46 From the oh my god, the squirrel has run away from my jingle box. Somebody may have invaded your privacy Someone has made off with my squirrel Interesting hmm anyway a 2007 Keenan Cabernet if you can find it get a bottle only by the way You know that the burrowing owl is still really one of my favorite and can we get that at Costco John? All he knows Nally Nyman at North Bee Stockholm 5555. These are congratulatory, this is our 5555 donation which is a congratulatory donation for our fifth anniversary show so it's just a bunch of fives and all he says i've been fan for years also have been very cheap the show has been so good lately i just had to contribute to the anniversary do some swedish news and i'll donate again okay we work on that monica lansing in edmonton alberta really enjoyed last few shows keep them coming uh... wall raven nicole in singapore fifty five fifty five twenty four-day raymour missouri defied the five christian collins is and carl's california you and

1:57:49 Adam, this is my third donation. Hopefully this episode's your fifth anniversary if not it's coming This is the 26th of October Take my money anyway Please give my friend SZR1 a douchebag call out DOOCHEBAG! I'm trying to get her hooked on the show but she won't listen Please give me some job karma Getting desperate You've got karma Colin Stolman and uh- Sloman Wait a minute The squirrel just walked in Squirrel! There we go. And she's naked when she does that by the way. Colin Sloman in London 5555 with a comment, five more years

1:58:32 Okie dokie years five more years Chicago 5555 keep for the upcoming fifth anniversary can I ask her Pelosi jobs along with a bit of karma? Oh for me as well as the show. Thanks guys, man It's like He's on the road yeah, it's like this No, please. Just give him a karma. Yeah I'll just get... Sorry man it's like that's a hard one. You're gonna be back on Sunday or no? No! Sunday i'm still going to be here but I'll find-I'm gonna find the Arbite Arbite and the Jobs Jobs. I know where to look It's just I can't do it quick enough you know Robert Charles Charlotte North Carolina not a SysAdmin or corporate any Not a SysAdmin or corporate anyone Home of NASCAR and Moonshine

1:59:25 Just, I just go to the poem. Eight years enlisted now twelve as a blue collar slave currently have my head above water so enough to send some support and say thanks mainly for John for the salt info Oh great It was in a newsletter you got people who've got ahold of Ryan Kiefer in Durham North Carolina A lot of people quit the newsletter there's no news in it we have news in it but its not constant Ryan Kiefer in Durham, North Carolina. 5555 long time boner first-time donor congratulate on the five years hope to donate more in the next five shot of karma would be great no jumping through multiple hoops jingles needed you've got karma Remco van Dyck in Harlem Holland yes 5555 mr. Snow and Sanct Peter Berg Sankt Peter Berg

2:00:14 So it says, I think he's in Russia. He's in St Petersburg. Really? The PayPal came and was sanked! He's in St. Petersburg, so maybe he's not maybe he is in St. Petersburg. It was Mr Snow once we were anonymous as a student had been listening for over a year and promised myself that when I get a job and start getting by I would donate but it seems the way things are going you guys aren't going to last that long this is about all the money I get per month from the Russian government for being a good student slave this is my only income but it's growing for a good cause I'd like to send some karma To Tom Merritt. I followed him for Buzz out loud to Twitter and found John. Oh, wow. That's cool He needs a cent. I found it Okay, he wants to say he wants a douchebag call-out to the 99% boners happy fifth bag Yes, thank you lone squirrel in the chat room for sending me this girl You've got

2:01:10 Travis Stearns in Minneapolis, Minnesota 55 to 5 Williams smock in San Diego Looking forward to five more years. Please give me some driving karma for my trip to Las Cruces Yeah, yeah that's route 10 now you'll get pulled over by Border Patrol for sure nice I think my last donation was on 429. I got the extended version with this show conversation looking to see if i get another extended show at this donation 5555 John Haller good luck on that. I'm sure that's really smart yeah smock smock smock smock smock smock smock smock John Haller in Missoula Montana 5555 Christopher Anderson Canyon Court is that what it is California been a great five years thanks jake wait a minute wait wait that's almost like a eulogy

2:01:58 Great five years, thanks. Now go die! JK Shields and Wick Highland 5555 taking out the side of your mouth sketch in 446 was the funniest thing I've heard in years. Well, the technician shot it at the side of his mouth? I guess. Worth $55 on its own keep up the analysis Sir Robert Gauschko and Sherwood Alberto we're gonna read this show be running a little long today by the way because all these well-wishers happy fifth Michael Muller in Arlesheim, Deutschland I think. Yes? No?

2:02:35 5555 Alan Adler in Rolling Hills, California Congratulations. So both you go for general class or extra? Oh, yes Can I just say John I am ready to take the test I've studied and oh The technical visit we're talking about ham radio license the technicals easy. Yes very easy Oh my goodness And I found a repeater so that we can talk to each other good buddy. You got a repeater that goes where on No, it goes...it actually connects to the Winds system that you were talking about. A repeater? I didn't see one listed anywhere here. Bee Cave! It's in Bee Cave and I can... Oh, Bee Cave! That's where the...you gotta go to the barbecue place there

2:03:18 What kind of non-sequitur are you throwing at me? I'm talking about, i'm becoming a ham radio operator. I'm going to take the test and you're like go to the barbecue! You know what? I'll go to the barbecue place in B cave hop on the repeater and tell you how scrumptious it is great okay that sounds like typical ham chat cq bbq down 80 meters these old guys are down there doing that i'm gonna do it i'm gonna be CQ jumps what you gotta make a fool of yourself on VHF. I don't give a crap. What are they gonna do? Bella Vista, Arkansas Hey guys got a human resource due in November job interview this Thursday I need some healthy baby new job karma also mentioned the no agenda human resource app again So I can pass along some more download money to you guys I think we had three downloads in the last four months wait the Noah Jen human resource That's the okay go get the knowledge any human resource app You can find it in the App Store or iTunes

2:04:13 You've got karma. Oh my goodness, this is a great... You don't move a lot of product as a problem Jimmy Tack and Oudghastel Out-hustle! Oudghastel Out-hustle! Out-hustle! Hustle! I bit my tongue Very good That would have donated more but since John thinks stealing money from one person to give it to another will save the economy I feel he can't be trusted with more Thanks. Thanks, John good job. I don't know he's talking about also the boom-bust cycle is completely bogative Google Australian economics Austrian economics and congratulations on your five year anniversary Yeah We've never heard of the Sir Richard Haskins in Stephens City Virginia

2:05:01 Typing drunk, okay. So this is probably get cut off by PayPal while I'll type it Anyway, here's a fine 5555 donation honor your fifth anniversary coming up Fifth anniversary gifts are traditionally wood just to say there. I gave you guys a woody Back to the White House beer well, I did not know so the fifth anniversary is Wood what that's cool Oh, Woody. We now know that we can thank you I'm glad no one asked the last of our dark congratulatory donations and it's getting me raw podcast for peace in Alamo came out at 5150 because the shifting sounds of the job market need a karma shot be doing a lot of those karma or killed Mathiasen invar'd or

2:05:58 Torquild Mattiasen. That's how I say it, in Vard. Oh! I just varded. He is in Denmark. Yes not from Copenhagen. I really don't know what to write so more or less wrote something but I hope you do appreciate it here's the early one for the anniversary I find you guys very interesting this 5130 which is the other anniversary number And in front of you guys gave me a more critical look at the world. You should not stop to show that would be very sad and probably depressing because I don't know what else to go to it to get this kind of boarding like this recent wars have been about oil, more or less the drones that may be up to something to invest in Because I can't get my pension at age 69 unlike in France and WWE 3 is coming soon. I would like a trains good planes bad karma Hope the stupid IT education will get me somewhere all aboard trains good planes bad

2:06:49 Garcia is in by the way. What? Garcia, our contact in Madrid came in with you. Oh he's alive! Yeah good Ignacio Garcia and 5130 and he'll be reporting on what's really going on in Madrid hopefully soon Eric Nagel and Bunschoten Spakenburg. That's Deutschland or Holland? Oh, Holland. Okay. Karma for John and Adam 5130. Fatuck! You've got karma. And here's a guy that just a couple, that's the end of our donation. But there's a couple little mentions I should read from JKLM Inc., I received an email from PayPal informing me that my regular payments to the best podcasts in universe had been suspended they gave no explanation or reason i'm sending this donation until I can re-establish automatic payments. That's the buggy doonbuggy guy BuggyGolfCarts.com remember him?

2:08:17 So he got caught up. Oh really? Yeah! Wow, excuse me I have a swazen off in my throat and uh i think that's about it for today shows Wow, well it's been great. We really appreciate it and one thing for sure... I would appreciate the congratulations for sure! Yeah and yeah the 5555 is fantastic It makes me feel really good about doing the show You know? And I wear my heart on my sleeve you know when when uh When it's not going well and donations are low I get all crabby and then you know because uh I don't like getting by like anybody else

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Chevy Volt Leasing Debate, Value for Value

The ongoing debate regarding Adam Curry's potential lease of a Chevy Volt is revisited. Despite listener warnings about parts availability and reliability, the low lease price of $166 per month is discussed as a potential "value" for a short-term vehicle.

chevy volt· electric vehicles· leasing· general motors· hater culture

2:08:56 And you're still contemplating buying a Volt for 200 bucks a month or whatever. Actually, I heard $166 dollars a month John! They've lowered it! What? $166? Hold on a second let me look at that's for 24 months no no no no no that's from what that's uh i think that's for 36 or 72 okay well whatever let me bring up an interesting point because they're condemning you oh you're never gonna get parts and everything this is never going to do that if it's the least car What difference does it make? You drive it around for the year or two or three and then give you one power from the house, and then you drop it off at the Chevy dealer saying so long suckers. So what difference does that make if you can't get parts in your car thats leased

2:09:45 They'll keep it on the road till the lease runs out. Otherwise, if they didn't then you could just drop it off and your Sam's through with this thing I think it is just a completely lame looking car. That's my problem The black one looks cool You backed off! You let them cow you! You let them beat you up! I'm a pussy! for good because Lord knows four weeks I've been going to bed saying oh please I hope I can afford a Chevy Volt. I really hope the price comes down yeah that's what I really wanted now I was just looking at it a great deal thinking this is an $80,000 car that they're now practically giving away and I was just looking at the value for value saying that's a great value but I've gotten so much negativity. Oh that's because there are haters

2:10:37 They're haters All right Should you like an easy executive producership or associate executive producership then this Sunday is your show? Borac org slash and we really appreciate the support This is great. And that makes me feel great that we're out here on the road doing stuff in In crazy circumstances, and it's gonna be that way for the next three or four shows So I feel good about that How about you John you feel good I feel like we should wish somebody a happy birthday. Are you sure you don't want to sell something because we could always try that? No, I really would... I think we would stop the show if it had any commercials. I mean, this is really neat! This show would be crap! Do you not hear the jingles?! You do right? That wouldn't be 4.

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony, Sir Gordon and Sir Joshua

Gordon Fedori and Joshua Polson are officially knighted for their contributions of $1,000 or more to the show. The ceremony includes the traditional bestowal of "hookers and blow" and the promise of knight rings.

knighthood· no agenda roundtable· gordon fedori· joshua polson· night ring

2:11:29 You hear this, right? Barely. Okay I don't know what's going on with him but anyway Only one birthday today Rebecca Martin congratulates her husband John Well yes happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe And we do have two knighthoods to bestow John if Can you hear your sword at least or... There it comes. Gordon Fedor... Fedori And Joshua Polson, please step forward as both of you are now about to become Knights of the Noah General Roundtable for your contributions and support this program. The best podcast in the universe in amount $1,000 or more You still qualify for your night ring So I hereby pronounce these Sir Gordon and Sir Joshua Both Knights of the Noah General Roundtable For you gentlemen hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay If you wish we've got your hot pants and booze Or your wenches and beer It's all right here

2:12:31 Thank you. It goes and what tacos tacos? Tacos in what tacos tacos tacos and hot sauce Okay, Dvorak org slash N a let me ease you into a new meme here I don't know if you saw this report I was astounded About the about the report and I was going to do a whole kind of You know the whole segment about it but then I found that some mainstream media actually picked up on it as well And this is the new meme when it comes to drones

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

Pakistan Drone Double Tap Report, Stanford and NYU Study

A report from Stanford and NYU detailing the "double tap" drone strike tactic in Pakistan is analyzed. The study finds that follow-up strikes often kill first responders and rescuers, creating a climate of terror where civilians are afraid to assist the wounded.

drones· pakistan· double tap· stanford university· nyu

2:13:14 The double tap. You have a pretty good clip summarizing this well I'm actually playing a clip which you're just talking right through once you shut up or I can play the thing here we go on let's fix that then why can't you hear I don't understand I'm not hearing the clip I'm hearing you Hold on. Do you hear my clips at all? I heard the two shots, Dave's shot- the double taps stood to your head. Listen do you hear this? US drain strikes in northwestern Pakistan are frequently killing and injuring rescuers... You hear that?! Yeah, I'm gonna be quiet.

2:14:06 and not at all senior commanders. Well our correspondent Ola Girin is in the Pakistan capital Islamabad, and she's been looking at the findings. It is a substantial report by two respected American universities The research was commissioned by the UK legal charity Reprieve which campaigns against drones but the findings are independent now this study says basically that drones are damaging and counterproductive to US security interests It says strikes that kill hundreds of low-level fighters are of dubious security value to the United States. It says the number of senior militants killed in these strikes is only about 2% and it calls on the US to review the policy. It also says the U.S government is very reluctant to admit that there are civilian casualties, although there is significant evidence that this is the case

2:14:57 And it highlights that practice of so-called double tap strikes, where there are repeated strikes at a single location and the follow on strikes are killing rescuers first responders and locals who go to the scene. Now that has resulted in people being too afraid to go and help the injured and the dying. One local humanitarian organization is said to now have a six hour mandatory wait before they go to the scene of a drone strike." So I find this very, very interesting... The phrase double tap I think in most recent popular culture is known from zombie land as the only Surefire way to kill a zombie is by double tap. We have two taps to the head but of course we've been using the 2 to the head mean for quite awhile and I wondered does it not really diminish the whole idea of a Hellfire missile coming down out of the sky and blowing you up Is that didn't like double-tap? Is it

2:15:58 Well, you know it seems to me for one thing this is sick. Let's start with that premise Thank you And so what they do is they blow up somebody's house and kill whoever You know a bunch of kids and whoever in there They'd now that they've got documented at this has been document for awhile That they're not really killing anybody important because why are they doing out in the middle of nowhere? So then within a few minutes when people go rushing to help the wounded Like, you know let's say it was a Red Cross truck. They go rushing in there to help the wounded they kill them too just as a joke! That was pretty cool. It wasn't even the second shot. Just clean up? Just clean up? Hey they're trying to help the guys let's kill em' Let's just clean up I mean its very very sick but again we have Obama's Kill List and supposedly he gets to watch all these videos according to Ulsterman and others

2:16:48 And he watches the videos of this, it's about time. Look at the rescuers coming in let's blast them again and kill them too." Go now! Go go go! And meanwhile... "...it was just really nauseating and the fact that nobody cares, Obama is a character whatever got a great smile that Obama!" Hey but then we have David Cameron talking about how horrible the children are treated there in Syria. How come no one goes and says hey yeah these He's Americans, this president of yours. He's double-tapping kids and rescuers and just killing everybody over there! How come none of that is there? Why are we not outraged by this?! Why? I'm outraged by it. Oh, you're not! I am totally outraged by it It's funny, I thought your report was going to be the exact same one... ...it is a funny parallel report with the one that we might as well play Which is the BBC version of the exact same report which is probably another 10 seconds longer than yours What's the title because I can't seem to find it It's called... Good BBC Drone Report So were both in line with each other here we go

2:17:50 US drone strikes in northwest Pakistan are frequently injuring not only civilians but their rescuers, in what are known as double tap strikes. That's where follow-up strikes target a location that has just been hit So says a new report from Stanford and New York universities. The actual targets are Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants, but the authors conclude that many of those hit are low level operatives not senior commanders. The BBC's Orla Garrian has more from Islamabad Well this report reaches damning conclusions about the CIA drone program it says its counterproductive and damaging that its killing very few senior leaders

2:18:30 and that it is terrorising an entire community in the process. Now according to the authors, senior militants account for only an estimated 2% of drone victims but they paint a picture of an entire community living in paralysing fear men women and children looking up at the skies overhead wondering when death is going to come raining down. They say that many people are too afraid to attend gatherings like weddings and funerals in case they're targeted, they say some parents are afraid to send their children to school or the children themselves are too traumatized to go. One humanitarian worker previously based in the US compared the level of fear in Waziristan with the fear in New York after 9-11 The report also highlights the risk to rescuers it says

2:19:20 The practice of carrying out follow-up strikes means that those who go to give assistance after a strike can be killed themselves. Now the majority of those killed in drone attacks are believed to be suspected militants, but independent researchers say that several hundred civilians are also counted among the dead US officials say the drones are surgically precise, that they limit collateral damage. This report says that claim is false but either way the administration is expected to continue using these weapons here and elsewhere So this is very, very interesting John because my report I think it might have been from RT your reporters in the BBC. I have not seen anyone pick up on this report which is a US report I might add no one has picked up on the support here however... No that's not true because Democracy Now had a whole not only a huge segment, we'll take a clip for Sunday okay he was saying but they had their reports main author on oh well and was actually quite interesting well NPR

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

NPR Drone Smackdown, National Security Blogs

NPR's coverage of a "drone smackdown" event between national security bloggers is contrasted with the grim reality of lethal drone strikes. The hosts criticize the media for treating drone technology as a game while ignoring the civilian casualties reported in Pakistan.

npr· drones· smackdown· national security· shane harris

2:20:24 As far as I know, did not do anything about this about the double tap report. But they did have a whole drone segment i'd like to share with you It started as trash talk between two contributors to a national security blog To settle their differences they decided to host a drone smackdown Not armed drones of course but model drones Of course The kind anyone can buy at a toy store or online NPR's Kerry Johnson reports, while the smackdown was all in the name of fun it also had some serious undertones. Wow, oh yeah. No national treasure Oh, yeah know it I'll give you a little bit more though the report goes on for hours but I'll give you a little more just this is so while people are being killed and Rescuers who then go to try and pick up bits and pieces of these people have been blown apart by the way Brought to you buy your president and the CIA Okay This is not the army who does this? The CIA does this in your name that

2:21:22 and then the rescuers get blown to bits by the double tap. Our national treasure and the fine editors of national security blogs are playing drone smackdown with each other." Let's be clear, this was just a game for national security experts in aviation buffs trying to knock each other's little rinky-dink unarmed drones out of the sky on a beautiful afternoon at the end of the summer We are somewhere in Virginia. Shane Harris, a national security writer and the judge of this contest sounds merry but for a moment last week the whole drone smackdown was up in the air Oh my gosh!

2:22:04 the smackdown was up in the air it might not happen because oh a park in Washington had been ruled out after the Federal Aviation Administration warned that machines not much bigger than your kids toy helicopter didn't belong in DC's restricted airspace. Oh we couldn't do our drone smackdown these people should be ashamed of themselves they should be ashamed if you see these people go spit on them you shit. This makes me angry, these people they're supposed to be writing about this stuff instead they're playing drone smackdown and you should be talking about this report I mean there's none of our innocent people killed left and right it's not doing us any good and it's terrorizing talk about terrorism that is the pure so you have to understand and if you read the actual report

2:22:55 Here's what is so drones are one thing. So, you know what happens is the drone comes by It identifies you I'm sorry You did a jumping jack it kills you but here's what how many times two or three guys get together and you know to have a beer there? No, no, but it's worse John. So they don't drown them if you know little groups of people meet that you're this funny because if you listen to Can I just say something play the clip which is interesting cuz hello play the clip am I on Is this on? Can you hear me? Am I even in- Hello, hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Can you hear me?! Hello John! John! John. Can you hear me? John...

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Obama UN Speech on Democracy, Drone Terror

President Obama's UN speech regarding the rights of citizens to assemble without fear is juxtaposed with the 24/7 surveillance and strike operations of CIA drones. The hosts highlight the psychological terror caused by the constant noise of drones over residential areas.

barack obama· democracy· united nations· drones· surveillance

2:23:53 My god, I've been yelling for 10 minutes. I just hear you now Oh my god! I was gonna... well anyway i'll play this clip but I had something to say Okay, I think we're half duplex or something Something went really bad there Here let me play your clip and they'll say something True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe And the businesses can be opened without paying a bribe It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear and on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people. In other words, true democracy real freedom is hard work those in power have to resist the temptation a crackdown on dissidents in hard economic times countries must be tempted

2:24:47 It may be tempted to rally the people around perceived enemies at home and abroad rather than focusing on the painstaking work of reform Okay, all right. Can you hear me? I just want to make sure you can hear me That was the funniest that we've ever done But don't you think is you'd be able assemble and all this today Why are we denying this to these people well here here's what I was trying to say which which does flow right into this The true terror of the drones is not just the strikes. These things fly around and they're very noisy for hours, 24-7 they're flying around these people's homes so they are in their house hearing hmmm... And then it's like when is my turn? This is the terror!

2:25:33 That's what in the report which is not really you know there are everyone talking about the double tap. The true terror is exactly what our president is talking about here he is ordering the CIA, not even military, to have these drones 24 hours a day they're flying just imagine that Yeah, the house blowing up every so often. This is an It's unbelievable that level of terror is unbelievable but of course Please please those of you who write about drones on national security blogs Please go have a drone off your jerk offs thrown off Whatever anyway hey if you know yeah well that was really quite weird though I was trying to set you just were talking over me and then I couldn't couldn't get you to say anything it Was like weird

2:26:26 There's something wrong with that connection. Maybe. You've been breaking up on and off, I'm really bitched about it too much. Well there is nothing... we can try mumble! And you always kind of come up to which is weird. That IS weird. It was like when I just said something and you started talking but came from zero and you were like faded in Really? Yeah most of the time, which is probably why I couldn't hear ya Or maybe the fact that you don't wear headphones. No, it wouldn't be that believe me I can hear everything easy enough on these speakers Well let me try something here Don't change it now! This is really quite bad we can't have a dialogue You know what? You can interrupt me as well I think this is fantastic Okay I got something to clip I personally thought was clip of the day

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

French GMO Corn Ban, Monsanto NK603 Study

France's proposed ban on Monsanto's NK603 genetically modified corn following a study on rat tumors is discussed. The hosts suggest the timing of the study may be a "hit piece" intended to influence California's Proposition 37 GMO labeling vote.

monsanto· gmo· france· nk603· prop 37

2:27:22 Yes, yes. I said yes all right yeah this is not...I don't know did you hear about this or? I didn't see it reported any place but Asia that was on China news about the fact that the French are going to ban genetically modified corn oh yes no i've heard a lot about this actually and I believe that this is actually a part of the Prop 37 GMO labeling PR war that's going on in California. No, I didn't see it any place else but in the... Oh no no! This has been going on... Oh no no! ...CCTV See you still can't hear me this is really bad

2:28:01 I can hear you. No, because i'll talk and then I can tell from your behavior that you can't hear me. I can hear you fine. Let me play your clip. France says it may press for a Europe-wide ban on genetically modified corn this comes after a new study found that rats fed NK603 corn developed higher levels of cancer had larger cancerous tumors and died earlier than controls The rats were monitored by scientists at a university for two years, making this the very first long-term study of NK603 corn. The corn is made by US agribusiness giant Monsanto. Yeah so here's the deal with this report

2:28:44 First of all Russia according to reports has now suspended import of all the NK 603 corn so Russia is ahead of France But the war is on with this apparently the French Study they only use 10 rats who were already like pre-cancerous I'm telling you this is about prop 37 in California about GMO labeling. I've been feeling this for two weeks now and I've actually been we just haven't gotten to it on the show But I put it in the show notes at least for the past three or four shows This about this study, and I'm really John I'm I And of course, I'm the first guy who hates Monsanto but I think that this is a hit piece

2:29:37 And I'm not entirely convinced that these rats just developed these, you know. Have you seen the video? It's like the rat has a tennis ball hanging out of his butt. That's how big the tumors are and of course...I mean I don't want to eat any corn. I certainly would. I don't want any Monsanto product but this to me feels like there is a PR hit job and yeah. I think you're probably right okay I still like it though. Oh no, but i like the pictures! The rats they're great looking... Like a golf ball hanging out of his ear and the fact that hasn't been picked up by big mainstream media tells me that this is a hit job because most people would say... No, no, no, no, no, no, most people would say... Because of course NPR PBS ABC They're not gonna go bite Monsanto's ass

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Roseanne Barr Presidential Platform, Nationalizing Monsanto

Roseanne Barr's presidential campaign for the Peace and Freedom Party is reviewed. Her platform, which includes nationalizing Monsanto and removing the Federal Reserve, is discussed following her interview on Russia Today.

roseanne barr· peace and freedom party· monsanto· federal reserve· iceland

2:30:34 Have you seen that? That's for sure. Yeah, that's why the reporting is not there It's it's it's one of these weird situations where people think that this is not being reported You know because you know we're all supposed to eat the horrible corn now I think in this case it's really a hit job Now is this corn good now do we have to get rid of months We should nationalize Monsanto in fact This is what Roseanne Barr said, who was running for president. You knew she was a presidential candidate? No! Roseanne Barr is a presidential candidate for the Freedom and Peace Party so she will be on the ballot apparently Is that different than the Peace and Freedom party? It's the same one And she was interviewed by Thom Hartmann

2:31:18 on what yes on uh... russia today and here's her platform as the presidential nominee for the peace and freedom party how would you solve our current economic problems I would do what Iceland did. I would kick out the Federal Reserve or nationalize it and along with that, I would also nationalize all of Monsanto profits because Monsanto is an international corporation and I'm afraid if America does not nationalize it some other country will So I would just start there. That's working really well in Iceland and a couple of other countries where we're no longer on a failed system of theft, basically. A failed system of debt slavery and theft

2:32:08 So I'm for rebuilding everything from the ground up that becomes true representation of true opinions of by and for, and of the people. I am changing my vote! She's got my vote! I am voting for Roseanne Barr. I'm all over that. What an idiot... Shes great! Im voting for her She's great. Nationalize Monsanto, kick out the Federal Reserve... You know she's wacky but I'm really contemplating giving my vote to her! I really like it! What else we got? Hey welcome MrsSmallBizToTheParty where were you when we did that two hours ago? I'm sorry no now i'm just talking just smacking down the chat room oh and you know what I'm very close to not wanting to look at the chat room anymore

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Chat Room Demotivation, Real-Time Corrections

The hosts express frustration with the negativity and "boring" comments in the live chat room. They discuss the purpose of the chat room for real-time corrections versus the demotivating effect of "ankle biters."

chat room· moderation· adhd· canada· feedback

2:33:03 I give up on them. People are so harsh, you know? It's so many ankle biters! We work hard and here's the things when people go like they do a whole line of Zs It's so demotivating. For what? Because apparently they're bored with whatever topic we're talking about. Oh, Z or like this... boring. Or they'll just say this is boring! Go in the chat room and just say whatever you do is boring! In fact I'm logging off now. I can't watch it anymore

2:33:42 Well, I don't know why you're watching. The reason for a chat room situation like this is so... Yeah i'm done. ...is so you can Correct yourself in real time when you actually make an egregious. Yeah, but I can't do it anymore because it's too distracting Because people are saying you know just saying crap Like because the chat room is moderated no offense to the chat room people that moderate it All right so if someone wants to If I make an egregious error than one of the sur get mo or mr Oil or JC can Get in our back channel and tell me there. I can't I just can't what it's so demotivating

2:34:18 Like, you're wrong again! You suck. You're wrong again? Yes I swear to God you're wrong again because it is not like Leo's chat room even though you I think it was your fault My fault this is my fault how is this my fault? I bitch and moan about the chat room and said that needs to be strong if he has to throw some of these yay-whos out He said nooo its gonna be too much like Leo's too rigid they can fight they throw people out and ban them Well, I take it back. You were right, I was wrong honey! We are welcome. Alright ADHD drug suspected of hurting Canadian kids...I don't know if you saw this report? This is like nothing we don't know but it's kind of fun to see it show up. One out of- Can I read my favorite story for the week? Yeah why do I even show up except just to play the jingles for you?! Exactly

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Massachusetts Drug Lab Scandal, Improper Evidence Handling

A major scandal in a Massachusetts state drug lab is discussed, where thousands of convictions may be overturned due to improper evidence handling and falsified credentials. The segment explores the potential for massive lawsuits against the state.

massachusetts· drug lab· convictions· evidence· quality control

2:35:21 That's what the chat room would say. Thousands of drug related convictions in Massachusetts may be challenged as investigators learn more about improper evidence handling. Would you like to clip? Would you like the clip? 34,000 convictions about drugs Turns out that the woman who heads up to lab never had doesn't even have a can you hear me now? She claimed to have a master's degree. Can you hear me now one two? Two labs quality control and two judges So we have 30 drugs are legalized this wouldn't be a problem in the first place, but we have something like 34 thousand people convicted of drug crimes and it's all on

2:36:00 bogus information from this phony lab in Massachusetts. Can you imagine the states, the lawsuits that are gonna stem from this? Can you hear me now can you hear me now hello hello hello can you hear me up on me can you hear me ah this is bogative hello hello hello hello hello can you hear me now can you hear me now Now I can hear ya Jesus They don't blame me. I know because the minute i said would you like to hear the clip and I can't interrupt your flow which means this is like we might as well just go over... Would you like to hear that? I'm sorry, I didn't know you had a clip! I know because you can't hear me there's something weird with the connection would you like to hear the clip over

2:36:47 I'd love to hear the clip over. Now, this is of course the same thing you just read but you don't have the groovy reaction from your co-host. Crazy. Dukin has not been charged, but a criminal investigation is underway. That's terrible! Wow amazing! Alright let's move on now

2:37:43 That's all I that's all. That's what I should do on this show just go like oh wow, oh It's what I do. I don't it is really this has really been very challenging to have a conversation Later part of the show there's something with the connection is falling apart Well, I'm deflated now. I'm deflated by the chat room... ...I'm deflated by trying to make things work on the road and it doesn't work... ...and I don't have the jingles and- And I'M ALWAYS WRONG AGAIN! I'M WRONG! I'm so wrong! I don't wanna be wrong Think of the children Hey wait, don't we have that? Don't we have that jingle? Will somebody think of the children? I thought we had that one

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

MSNBC Romney Rant, Rehearsed Political Analysis

A highly rehearsed rant against Mitt Romney by an MSNBC political analyst is analyzed. The hosts point out the scripted nature of the commentary, which uses elaborate metaphors to depict Romney as out of touch with the working class.

msnbc· mitt romney· barack obama· political analysis· script

2:38:32 Wow, I don't know what I'd see. I have one clip that's kind of interesting if you want to hear some guy who was rehearsed Can you hear me now? Yeah Okay just checking What do ya got? I have the political analyst from MSNBC who does a rant on Romney That is rehearsed and it's absolutely stunning There's no way anyone could do this off the top of their head It's that good I found it very good, yeah. Absolutely right the reality is this is that Mitt Romney is attempting to exploit the statements by President Obama take them out of context and use them as a pretext to justify his assault upon the foreign policy of the Obama administration and yet we know what he really thinks again we've seen behind the curtain we see that The Wizard Of Oz

2:39:28 is a small guy. We see he's not the big bad wolf that he claims to be in his hawkish politics, here is a guy who dismisses with elite condescension the vast majority of Americans and it is just inexplicable to me why Mitt Romney would continue to poll even moderately well among those members of the white working class or working poor are those who are even in the middle class because Mitt Romney thinks they're bunch of moochers and hangars on and victims victimizers and victim mongerers who go around bellyaching and kvetching about their rate of taxes, denying the fact that they must be self-sufficient. I mean his picture of them is so distorted that we can't trust what he says about Obama, and we can't even trust what he says about the people who would ostensibly be part of his constituency. I think the man is confused it's not the bump on the road its' the bump on his head from which he suffered a bunch of stars and he cant see. That's great!

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

Novel Coronavirus Global Alert, WHO SARS-like Virus

The World Health Organization's global alert regarding a novel coronavirus is scrutinized. The hosts question why a Qatari patient was flown to London for testing and suggest the virus may have been synthesized at Erasmus University in the Netherlands.

world health organization· coronavirus· sars· qatar· erasmus university

2:40:27 I love that. It's like the guy has his one shot and he goes through the script, this was rehearsed... Right and he just hammers it out. Anyway that's the MSNBC political analyst All right let me uh we got to close this up i think we got a couple more things here oh one is um hold on a second where am i This is a new, we have to be very afraid. Let me see maybe we can roll out the jingle again where is it? Now with SARS! We're back on tonight's Outer Circle where we reach out to our sources around the world and we begin tonight in London where man is in critical condition with an unknown virus that is related to the deadly SARS infection but

2:41:14 The World Health Organization has issued a global alert over the new virus. Atika Schubert is in London and I asked her if she knows how he even contracted the virus? Aaron, authorities here do not know exactly how or where the man contracted this virus. All we know is that a Qatari man is in critical condition with a coronavirus This is the same class of virus that causes the common cold but also SARS Now unlike SARS this virus doesn't just cause severe respiratory illness it also seems to cause Kidney failure. Now fortunately it doesn't seem to spread as quickly as SARS but this is something that medical authorities still are trying to figure out what they do know is that a second patient was diagnosed earlier in June with that same virus, that patient died and what authorities are looking at now is whether or not these two patients were in any way connected

2:42:07 and how or where these two may have contracted that virus. And that will help authorities figure out whether or not this virus is spreading, or whether it is already much more widespread." So I go to the World Health Organization website who.int to find this Global Alert and Response Report which they abbreviate as GAR GAR global alert and response and this whole report is based. This this entire Aaron Burnett report is based upon this one Gar, and They literally took the guy so it says here novel Coronavirus infection in the United Kingdom now what does that sound like to you that headline John? What does that what does that mean? It means there's a one-off

2:43:01 But it sounds like the infection is in the United Kingdom. Oh yeah, right! It sounds like something's going on there... On September 11th this guy who was in Qatar was transferred to the UK by air ambulance from Qatar They brought him he had this virus in Qatar and they took him to the UK To have laboratory testing done on him And he is not a UK citizen And then this report goes on to say they compared information from the clinical sample collected from the 49 year old Qatari national with that of a virus sequenced previously by the Erasmus University Medical Center in The Netherlands. It's identical!

2:43:56 What that tells me is that these guys at the university in the Netherlands synthesized the virus and now they want to know why this guy in Qatar has their virus. And, that's why they brought him over! This is complete... there is no virus other than this synthesize thing and they brought the guy over to have him tested in London and now it's like oh we have this huge problem going on with a SARS-like virus in the UK This is very, very, very strange. I would agree... When i first heard the story I thought there was something screwy about the virus being perhaps manipulated but now that you have this information it's obvious what you just said is absolutely what's happening They have synthesized this and they want to know why the guy had it over there and they can't figure this out

2:44:52 Anyway, yeah. No, I would be of high importance That's why they would haul him into the UK under probably he's probably in an mi6 lab Here's the and have some little Mmm Corona viruses this is still from the World Health Organization website are a large family of viruses which includes viruses that cause the common cold and SARS Given that this is a novel Coronavirus, WHO is currently in the process of obtaining further information to determine the public health implications of this case. With respect to these findings, WHO does not recommend any travel restrictions." Please note that change is an earlier version... Yeah I mean it's just they're just searching around..I don't know! This is nuts completely nuts and why bring the guy over?

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

US Suicide Rates vs Auto Crashes

A report indicating that suicide has surpassed motor vehicle crashes as a leading cause of death in the United States is discussed. The hosts attribute the rising suicide rate to a "drugged-out" society and the prevalence of psychiatric medications.

suicide· auto crashes· mortality rates· pharmaceuticals· population control

2:45:46 Suicide... That's the other thing, yeah. Why bring him over? It's not as though Cutter hasn't got really high-end hospitals. Yeah of course they've got tons of great hospitals over there for the elites and in the United States now according to ABC News from another great research report I have no idea what they're trying to promote with this one that suicide in the United States has now outpaced death by auto crashes the United States. I find that hard to believe! Death, right? So not injury but death. 44 thousand people are killing cars every year well apparently more people here overall combined unintentional and intentional injury mortality rose 10% over this over the period per one so apparently 12 per 100 thousand people commit suicide

2:46:50 the United States per year and motor vehicle crashes second place. So our top cause of death is not guns, it's not terror or terrorists or terrorism, it's not even automobiles... It's suicide from all these crazy-ass drugs that we're taking I'm editorializing that but that can only be the logical conclusion We're a drugged-out crazed nation and we're killing ourselves because of it. That's one way toward population control See I can stand here and do the one liners, too Yeah, but if you got a gig on CNBC or MSNBC you'd make some actual money? I would then we could like to just do that long winded patter that guy does that was a little analyst now It was quite awesome doesn't yeah, MSNBC doesn't even try to be balanced or even say they are no No

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

EU Clean IT Project, Internet Radicalization Policy

The European Union's "Clean IT" project is analyzed through a leaked document. The policy aims to identify and remove online content that may lead to "radicalization," even if the content itself is not explicitly illegal, raising concerns about broad censorship.

european union· clean it· internet censorship· radicalization· terrorism

2:47:55 And I don't know if you saw the Clean IT draft that the EU has released, which some websites say it's a leaked document. Oh we've got a leaked document! I go to your EU website and it says it's just there as a link. It's not leaked. Leaked document! So I do see some similarities between the purported executive order that President Obama will be coming out with, having private sector and The government worked together on identifying cyber threats and terrorist activities, and sharing information. So they're doing exactly this in the EU it's called the Clean IT project which of course is meant to be clean IT

2:48:44 There are a couple of things I picked up that are kind of interesting in this report, some suppositions and just things that they take for granted. And just to give you an idea how the European Union elites think, I want to walk through this for you in just a second if you don't mind? You wanna hear some of this? Yeah! The European Union, this is literally from the document. The European Union has identified the following offenses that are linked to terrorist activities so these are things that are illegal and against the law which are linked to terrorist activities including public provocation to commit a terrorist offense... So provocation which I think is open to interpretation recruitment for terrorism yeah you think?

2:49:31 recruitment for terrorism and training for terrorism also when committed in the online environment. Internet companies, this is who will be adherent to these regulations Can refer to providers of access browsers chat boxes certificates domain registration email and user control filters exchange points hosting messaging system search engines social networks e-commerce sites vice voice over internet protocol on web forums So basically everything a web forum really? Preambles. The internet has become very important to modern society, the daily lives of individual citizens and for businesses and economic innovation most use of the Internet is legal and beneficial to its users. The Internet plays a positive role in our lives in societies nevertheless you guessed it! The Internet is also used for illegal purposes including terrorism supporting terrorism and encouraging terrorism. Ah there you go encouraging terrorism John

2:50:31 That's going to be illegal. The use of the internet for terrorist purposes is illegal by European legislation that includes spreading violent propagandistic material, glorifying and encouraging violence and radicalizing and recruiting individuals or distributing training manuals this is all legal so the encouraging thing I'm a little worried about what that means. I have a question for you Does all this that you're reading mean that a Shea Guevara t-shirt will soon be illegal? Quite possibly. But only if you take a picture and put it on your website because the illegal content itself as I'm reading here does not always lead to radicalization and terrorist activities now, but I want to read that again... The illegal content itself

2:51:32 does not always lead to radicalization and terrorist activities. While content that does contribute to radicalization is not always illegal, get your mind around that. So does that mean if it leads to terrorism and is not illegal, then it IS illegal? Well let me read again so we can dissect this The illegal content itself does not always lead to radicalization and terrorist activities, while content that does contribute to radicalization is not always illegal. This is the most important line in this document What they are setting you up for is to remove your content even though it may not be illegal because it might lead to radicalization and terrorist activities

2:52:27 Many activities of terrorists start in ordinary, easy accessible parts of the Internet and are not illegal. For the above reasons it is necessary to discuss and distinguish between unequivocally... unequivocally... I can't say that word! Unequivocally illegal content or activities in cases where it's not clear whether the content or activities are illegal or not Ladies and gentlemen, turn off your modem. Turn off your router! Pack it in! You're done! You're done!! Okay, cheery ending to the show! Well I have always said that our show is... Doomed!!! We are doomed!

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Howard Stern Obama Supporter Interviews, 2012 Election Ignorance

The show concludes with a long clip from the Howard Stern Show featuring street interviews with Obama supporters. The interviews reveal significant voter ignorance, with participants unaware that Osama bin Laden is dead or that Paul Ryan is Mitt Romney's running mate.

howard stern· barack obama· mitt romney· paul ryan· osama bin laden

2:53:22 We're telling you to get it while you can. That's the way I see it. Dvorak.org slash NA, keep us going! Yeah all right let's wind up here with your end of show clip It's a long one but you've played it enough that I'm very excited about this actually being Yeah, it's a man on the streets stuff with some place in New York. They were asking Obama supporters what they think of him and why they're going to vote for him and all the rest And it's quite funny Howard and his and Robin are conventioning into middle every so often because they're stunned by this Now do you have a serious receiver? Is that how you get ahold of this or... No its actually on the blog devorek.org slash blog I edited this down a little bit You listen to The Howard Stern Show at all

2:54:07 Yeah, I like the Howard Stern show. So this is actually a stretch for him to do some political stuff? Yeah it is a little bit. Right... Okay so as we get out of here I will remind you as well Dvorak.org slash NA I am now recruiting I would like some brown shirt Nazis for the chat room All you need to be able to do is type slash kick fill in the name if you're a Nazi come on in because I'm looking for you Because I'm so demotivated by this crap and we'll be back on Sunday. I will be here once again from The People's Republic of Southern California, and that will be in Los Angeles where the helicopters are like drones at night In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry

2:54:56 And from Northern Silicon Valley, and by the way when he gets back from Los Angeles I go up to Port Angeles so we still have a crappy connection. No matter what we do! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk again on Sunday right here on NO Agenda in the US. Absolutely And what do you like that he's done so far? I mean, he done got a Medicaid and all let the medical thing go on. You know what i'm saying? He got most of the jobs like he said he would. And it really improving but he need to improve more So he needs stay on up end so we can do more things Like he said he would Do you hope he will eventually find and kill Bin Laden

2:55:39 He'll eventually do it all. You think he'll eventually find him and kill him if he wins this election? Every person they interviewed, about ten people... They didn't know that Bin Laden was dead? I'm telling you, I could play every one of these interviews! They don't know bin laden's dead over wherever the hell Salman Richard was. Well i dont think this guy knows what day it is. Yeah, I know But this woman sounded very with it listen to this Do you know who your gonna vote for in this election? Obama Obama. I just don't like Romney. What is it about Mitt Romney that you don't like? Is it that he's pro-choice or... Yes, and its just his general.. It's him in general. I just don't like him. Cause he's a Muslim? No, it has nothing to do with religion

2:56:19 what his views are. I just don't like him. Do you think Obama made the right choice by choosing Paul Ryan as his vice president? Um, yes. And do you think he picked Paul Ryan because he's African American or because he's qualified? Uh it could be a little bit of both Do you think McCain has a shot this time out to beat Obama for this election? No. I just don't see McCain as presidential material, I don't see it What percentage of the vote do you think McCain will get over Obama this time About 20, I guess. If Obama wins this time are you hoping that we finally catch and kill Osama Bin Laden? Honestly, I don't agree with the whole war thing but if we... Do you think he should just go to jail then, bin Laden? Yeah! He could be tortured but I don't believe in killing How long of a jail term do you think bin laden should get when we find him It should be indefinite

2:57:20 It's crazy. Wow, by the way I'm pretty sure you can find a bunch of white people don't know what's going on either Well they do you know again? I told you that Nancy Pelosi's daughter did this Documentary of some guys in Mississippi and they were off wall really oh my goodness This is some African guy but Did expect maybe he doesn't know what's going on. Are you happy with Obama's vice president pick Paul Ryan? Yeah, because you know pull around have a lot of issue because Anything the media so to him in TV is not right Do you like Obama because he's pro-life is that one of the reasons why you would vote for Obama yeah I like Obama You know a lotta issues

2:58:04 for the human right side. Like pro-life? Pro life, international you know, marxist, you know Do you like that he's anti gay marriage? Oh yeah! You know that's a human being So you like that Obama is against it Yeah I like Obama and all the way he do about politics I like that Do you support Mitt Romney because he's black? No no no doesn't matter to me He don't use to tell people what you running for? explain to people your issue policy is the issue now are u upset that Romney his 4k marriage does that bother you yeah, daa...that bother me for the human being he don't know whats going on I love how people are so willing to talk they're not listening at all this guy's like one guy believed Obama was a Mormon

2:59:00 Well, we're obviously dealing with a whole population that doesn't listen to the newscast or read the newspaper. But how do you miss that Osama Bin Laden's dead? Because they don't listen to anything! Do you know who your voting for? Obama Why? Because I feel as though he is... Who are you voting for this election, Obama or Romney? Obama Why is it? He has done more. Do you like Obama because he is pro-life Yeah, I'm for that. Do you support his vice president pick Paul Ryan? Uh yeah i do What do you like about him Paul Ryan always has the stats out. He's always coming with stats, you know? He knows... basically knows what is going on! Unlike YOU! Do you think people are upset that Sarah Palin is running again this time? I think she probably got a little bit more experience this time than last time Does it bother you that Obama is a Mormon? No but that basically sways his votes alot

3:00:03 in the way that people look at him. And does it bother you that Mitt Romney is black? No, no...that's not the issue, no Thank you very much! I don't know what to tell What did he want to say?! It's interesting That all you need to do is get your name out there Yeah Because nobody knows what your about Well thats what Jesse Ventura was saying People vote Democrat or Republican You know, it's like they don't even know who the hell is running. Right! Who are you voting for this election? Obama or Romney? Obama I think he is best president Do you hope Obama finds Bin Laden and kills him if he wins? Yeah yeah...I want to see him dead John McCain do you think he has a shot this time out to beat Obama

3:00:56 McCain, I don't think so. What percentage of the vote do you think McCain will get this time against Obama? Forty. Forty percent? Yeah So it's going to be a close race? Yeah, I think so Now how do you think Sarah Palin is gonna do as McCain's running mate in 2012? I would vote for McCain but not Sarah Palin There has been talk that he'll drop Sarah Palin in this election Are you gonna vote for him then? And you're gonna vote for Obama as well? Yeah. Are you happy with Obama's Vice President Paul Ryan? Of course! What is some things that he has done that you like? He is honest, he says what the others are thinking and not saying. And he is in really good shape. Oh my goodness guys... Well based on this I think McCain may be going to take it

3:01:51 I think he must be busy with something at this moment. Or perhaps he must be stuck somewhere in traffic.