Episode 442 · Sunday, 9 September 2012

Zombie Webinar

Government agencies pivot to zombie-themed disaster drills while the FBI integrates social media into a billion-dollar facial recognition network and global unemployment figures face intense scrutiny.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 442

About this episode

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported a drop in the national unemployment rate to 8.1% despite adding only 96,000 jobs, a figure that falls short of the 150,000 required to maintain population growth. ShadowStats analysis suggests the real unemployment rate sits at 23% when accounting for discouraged workers. This data discrepancy coincides with a Democratic National Convention narrative led by Jennifer Granholm, who credited Barack Obama with saving the auto industry through taxpayer-funded bailouts.

General Electric secured $26.5 billion in Pentagon contracts while CEO Jeffrey Immelt maintains a close advisory role with the White House, even as the company relocates its x-ray division to China. In Europe, Mario Monti and Herman Van Rompuy proposed a summit to combat divisive populism, a term increasingly used to delegitimize Euro-skeptic movements. Meanwhile, the FBI launched a $1 billion facial recognition system that integrates with social media APIs to identify citizens via public surveillance and Facebook photos. In the Middle East, a series of shallow earthquakes near Iranian nuclear facilities sparked theories regarding the use of HAARP technology or covert super-weapons.

FEMA and the CDC launched a zombie awareness webinar series to generate low-cost publicity for disaster preparedness. On the International Space Station, astronauts reportedly repaired a power unit using a toothbrush and a pipe cleaner, a moment Mission Control compared to the film Apollo 13. The mystery of the West Seattle hum was finally solved by marine biologists at the University of Washington, who attributed the low-frequency noise to the mating calls of midshipman fish.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Google Zagat Wine Club, Bing Search Challenge

Google has expanded into the wine industry through the Zagat Wine Club, leading to criticism that the company is losing focus on its core search product. Microsoft is currently running a "Bing Challenge" marketing campaign, modeled after the Pepsi Challenge, to convince users that Bing's search results are superior to Google's in blind tests.

google· zagat wine club· bing· microsoft· search engines

00:00 Is the Stargate in the water? Still a certified and proud denialist here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where Google has turned into a wine store, I am John C. Dvorak. Oh do explain oh great one in the sky

00:36 Google has turned into a wine store. I got today's New York Times, which is about a 50 pound paper today and in the New York Times magazine there's kind of like a blow-in card sorts... I'm looking at google dot com and it doesn't look like a wine store to me Well, here it is. The Zagat Wine Club. Oh they bought Zagat didn't they? Yes now they're selling wine. Yeah so what? That's Google! So Google is a wine store and they're also gonna make cars that drive themselves and all kinds of stuff we don't need

01:17 What kinds of groovy things that no one cares about just you know, it's unfortunate though Is that their search blows? That would be kind of fun if they say this has been more time working on that. Yeah Well debut did you see Bing's latest challenge bing-bing being it being yeah They did I think they did something there running commercials And it's a working script. We know this, the Curry-DeVore Consulting Group has used this many times It is the old Pepsi challenge So they went to San Francisco and they are on the street and they literally say Hey! I'm here on the street in Google's backyard and we're going do the search challenge Then people use blind taste test using Google and Bing Of course majority of people say wow this search is so good what is it? Oh its Bing

02:07 Yeah, I think that's pretty smart. You know someone is going to come in you don't think it's possible when someone's gonna Come in he's gonna eat Google's lunch you can happen Don't knows it can happen But I haven't seen anyone come close and I don't think this being challenge Bing Bing Challenge is going to do the trick I Use being every once a while but when it comes down to it and though over the big picture That google still beats it they should be sponsoring us Yeah, somebody should every single time we hit that it's like it's basically. It's a Pavlovian call to use Bing That's a ding Hey there's maybe we should make our search engine ding Ding ding dong or dung Dung wow that'd be great domain name to have wouldn't it dung-dung? Dunge.com Yes well in the morning to you John C. Dvorak

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Podcast Production Logistics, Listener Consumption Habits

The hosts discuss the current state of show donations and the tendency of listeners to treat the podcast like a serial drama such as Breaking Bad. They advise listeners to skip old episodes rather than trying to catch up, emphasizing the topical nature of the content.

no agenda· podcasting· donation model· breaking bad· media consumption

03:07 In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground subs in the water and to all the knights out there and feet in the air I might add. And to all of our human resources in the chat room all charged up ready to go at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net and uh...of course set to all over artists out there everybody who's listening not a lot of donors today I always get a little demoted Demotivated when we start the show you send this probably won't have to go three hours. Yeah, and that's true yeah We can make it a much shorter show now you get what you pay for yeah? This is true. This is true little disheartening Well yeah well again It's the end of the holiday week I mean it will see what happens next week mostly but we have people still listen to three shows ago its

03:58 Yeah, weird. I always find it strange that people say I'm catching up or I'm behind like if you miss something just skip it Why would you? I mean what-I don't understand we're kind of a topical show Just skip it. Who cares? Just drop the show! People don't want to do that, it's like this... This is not a... It's like a serial. Yeah we're not Breaking Bad you know? Like you miss one... Right, you miss the part where the principal was shot. Yeah, like you don't understand what's going on I find- You try and reexplain most of the memes if they're fairly new. Yeah. I always find that rather interesting That people do that They really stick to it

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Alberta Energy Economy

During the reading of executive producer credits for Barry Hanna and Jesse Cruz, the discussion shifts to the Canadian economy. Alberta is identified as the primary economic driver of Canada due to its oil and energy resources, while other provinces like Quebec and Saskatchewan are characterized as beneficiaries of Alberta's wealth.

alberta· canada· oil shale· quebec· energy industry

04:40 So maybe we should at least thank the producers right at the top. Yeah, because we do have... Oh! We have an executive? That's nice. Alright. Well, we always have an executive if anybody contributes over $200 they would get the executive automatically But when somebody contributes over $330, they automatically get executive and everybody else gets... It's the highest. Okay it's the highest ranking. It's written very carefully in the Dvorak.org slash NA page so no one can be confused by this. Okay got it So Barry Hanna do we have a known note from Barry? Did he send us an email? I don't think so that that's weird there's no note at all

05:24 Well, now I'm gonna have to look. H-A-N-N-A This is the kind of stuff typically you'd expect to be part of your regular show prep John? Yeah normally it is but I was caught off guard here because I never expected a big blank at the beginning Like you didn't see that? Come on man what's wrong with you? I had other things...I was doing clips Alright without comment Barry Hannah from Akatox Alberta It's just a place by the way that Alberta is the province that pays for all of Canada.

06:05 which is why the Quebecois will never leave the place because they, you know to get all this free money. And why is it that Alberta pays for all of Canada? What are they going to do? It's where all their energy is, it's where all their oil, the oil shale everything they've got in Alberta and most of our oil comes from there So what are all the other people doing up there? They essentially leach off of Alberta Everybody knows this Now, how about the Paris of Canada? That's what Saskatoon. So do they also leech off of Alberta? Yeah yeah course! Well that sucks...that doesn't sound right All the Canadians put up with it They enjoy it They don't care They get enough scraps in Alberta

06:54 Toronto gets the building to a scraps get the scraps this analysis in Canada or Canadians would contribute we'd have a better analysis so they won't disagree with this by the way yes hey that's right we just mooching off of Alberta mm-hmm Apparently everyone's mooching off of Alberta and Anne Murray according to the chat room And he'll be very old-fashioned jokes a producer sole executive producer for show 442 Associates Jesse Cruz in Highland Park, Illinois for $225 nice. Sorry I haven't been donating lately. I was talking about ammo That's that's a valid excuse right there no problem complete my knighthood uh-huh

07:45 Oh, please de-douche me and give me a Huntsman Karma shot to all the Illinois producers out there. We need it. Yeah awesome! You've been de-douched. You've got karma Awesome! Hi Jesse thanks glad to know you're all stocked up totally understand your absence from donation that makes a lot of sense Jaron Huntinga Okay, Jeroen Huttinga Jeroen Huntinga Just don't make fun of it just try to do it. Hitting ha hunting ha if there's no end you're putting an N where there is none hitting hot No, but you putting the n before the T its hitting ha who think ha oh who I say what? You're saying okay? You're right in winning again Wageningen Yeah, okay 207

08:44 Thank you, Yerun. I have to really thank you as the one and only show 437 club member for giving me the title Swazilnuff. I couldn't have asked for more! To show my appreciation i'll donate a triple swazilnuff 207 which will bring me my knighthood which I promised myself from my 9-11 birthday please allow me to carry the name Knight Aronimus which is my name in Greek Ironimus, is that how you pronounce it? I don't know. I have to run into my Greek pronunciation machine. Ironimus... Ironimus... Let me make sure that's in the notes for the knighthood. I don't want to do that wrong. Let me see No So its Knight Of course we'll do that! Ironi... I think its ironimus? Iron... Irono... Ironimus Okay Now see your doing it Thanks and keep up the good work on your show

09:44 So he's Hieronymus Hüttinger. Okay, well anyway... From Wageningen. A very long segment for the three producers! I want to remind people hopefully you've caught up by the on the show by now or at least sometime this week, uh, to help us out here at Dvorak.org slash NA. It's a Euronymous is what it is. Uh, I'm getting prompting here. Euronymous of course, it's his name in Greek which is Gerun or Yeroun so Euronymus Got it. I'm set don't worry. I'm doing that part of the show. I'm all I'm square. I'm cool no worries about it Okay, okay? Yeah yeah, yeah alright Just making sure you understand we have a little PR thingy one of our producers finally finally put something out there You know what kqed

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

NPR KQED Call-in, Howard Stern Marketing

A podcast producer successfully called into a KQED NPR broadcast during a segment intended for guest Molly Ringwald. The incident is compared to the "Baba Booey" phenomenon popularized by Howard Stern fans, though the hosts encourage more professional show promotion.

npr· kqed· molly ringwald· howard stern· baba booey

10:40 Yeah, KQED is our national treasure here in San Francisco. Right, national treasure exactly so one of our producers called in at an opportune moment because you know if you're a National Treasure which is NPR then of course you know you have great guests on and these are very important guests and sometimes I guess this delay doesn't show up and then they'll make the obvious mistake of opening up phone lines Which is one of our producers, Bad Ace. I think he does open carry radio from California. He's in Northern California

11:21 And so he took advantage of it, although the guest who didn't show up was kind of funny for our national treasure. Willa Paskin with us by phone from New York Television Critic with Salon dot com Molly Ringwald who is supposed to be with us had her flight delayed unfortunately let me go to your call... Molly Ringwald a very important guest for NPR Oh yeah you gotta get Molly Ringwald Molly Ringwald Get her in there So lets go to the phones Paul's here and we begin with Julian Good morning Okay, did you hear the in morning? He got a little yeah in the morning and then I'm gonna fast-forward it here a little bit Talking about how he watches the BBC and doesn't watch American media anymore

12:02 Edinburgh, I think. Nice old gentleman. Son of Richard Attenborough who many of us old-timers remember. I love his voice and just his stuff it's great so yeah I learned about the mechanism to get into the UK from a No Agenda podcast and have been using it for three years now well we thank you for that and Willip Paskin I take it you like Donta and Abby? We thank you for that too! That was a nice little mention I thought he did pretty good Got it in or pretty well. What is it? Pretty good or pretty well, pretty well, pretty well I think you did pretty well You know what its in we'll take it but there's so much opportunity to promote our show

12:41 And, you know I just don't see a lot of people taking advantage of that which is saddening because it seems like you guys would be really really good at. So we thank bad news for them. Yeah look what Howard Stern managed to do over the years when he had his minions go out and just yell Mama Booey or whatever they did. But these days is well maybe the problem is that because of course Howard Stern has He's no longer kind of mainstay show he is but his show is because it's on satellite isn't It's not what it used to be so when someone calls up and says Baba buoy people like what you know now we'd never get it I wonder. I wonder if it would work if people do it for no agenda. No, I don't want to say baba buoy That will be wrong that's a note we not one yeah Did you realize?

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

C-SPAN Politico Partnership, Brian Lamb Departure

C-SPAN has begun airing Politico-branded programming featuring corporate advertisements from the natural gas industry. This shift toward commercialization is attributed to the departure of founder Brian Lamb and potential funding cuts from the cable companies that traditionally support the network.

c-span· politico· brian lamb· cable companies· advertising

13:38 That well first of all let me let me thank you Let me just thank everyone so of course our associate executive producer are two I mean our executive producer our two associate executive producers Thank you, so much and of course our PR associates for today's episode We really can use a bit more help second show in a row that we're a bit down go to vorac.org Slash n a and of course you can always do something really important when it comes to PR and our formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth So I was watching Some more C-SPAN which we tend to watch a lot of and I got very very confused And not only are they using that bogative Social network. What's the name of that social network again tout?

14:45 Tau-Taint, yeah. The Taint network Not only are they using that but they have Politico has shows on C-SPAN sponsored by like America's natural gas I don't understand what's happening. Isn't C-SPAN supposed to be a complete noncommercial just like turn the cameras on? Yes, paid for by the cable companies Comcast Time Warner Right but why... I guess the Dish Network But why all of sudden are they letting Politico which is anything but... Maybe somebody is cutting back their funding and they need the money I know that guy, the guy who runs it. Brian whatever his name is He left! The president left Yeah he left and he may have been the guy holding it together Holding the whole thing together Right right Well its like...its lame now Politico is anything but a... Its not like they're complete publication without an agenda

15:47 Right? Yeah, no I agree. It's dreadful that they would be given a show But not just given a show! They've got advertisers! There shouldn't be advertising on the thing. I haven't seen this by the way Oh all of the election coverage is political. They have whole shows. Discussion shows and panels What?! What is going on here Well, that was Thursday night after the president did his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. The big finish! Yeah not a real happy ending. Boy that was a meh speech if I ever saw one

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Bureau of Labor Statistics, Job Number Adjustments

The White House and the Bureau of Labor Statistics are criticized for reporting a drop in the unemployment rate to 8.1% despite adding only 96,000 jobs. The analysis highlights that 150,000 jobs are required monthly just to keep pace with population growth, and notes a recurring pattern of downward revisions to previous months' data.

bls· unemployment rate· job reports· white house· economic recovery

16:32 What did you think? It was pretty mediocre. Yeah, and then of course the job numbers come out which again show we're losing jobs here. Never mind people... No no no! You are completely wrong I have the statement here from The White House hold on you are so wrong White House on job numbers hold on a second Here is the statement from The White House Today's employment report provides further evidence that the US economy is continuing to recover from the worst downturn since the Great Depression And that is because, I know it's funny right? That is because... I would like to know why the media isn't calling him out on this. This is bogative! So well the reason why they're saying that is because the real bogativeness is in the unemployment numbers ticking down from 8.3% Yeah yeah people giving up To 8.1%, well yeah

17:24 This is what most people, maybe you should just explain it again John because most people don't seem to understand or care that these are just lies. Lies lies lies! Well let's start with the basics the first thing is to maintain A zero-sum game, in other words to go nowhere. To go absolutely nowhere up or down you have to have a hundred and fifty thousand new jobs Why is this? Because the population is growing at two of the point about a million people entering, over a million people entering the workforce every year

18:01 Just because they become a certain age and actually it's a bigger number than that because there are a bunch of people dying to and leaving the job. This is what I need to understand, cause i'm just the dumb disc jockey here so every single year there are people being born, getting older entering the workforce, there also people dying And leaving the workforce. And who maintains these numbers? How do you know that it's a million people a year and that essentially... Well, its 150 thousand a month is what it amounts to. How do you know that? The Bureau of Labor, our government, thats what they've told us. Okay well you don't have to get angry at me I'm just asking. I'm mad at you now! No its not fair! I didn't do anything! So you have to have.. so that is essentially zero line

18:50 So anything below 150,000 means we're losing the workforce. Anything above 150,000 we were actually adding people to the workforce which is what you want or you want even at least if it's even its okay this is not even and then the worst part about this which was kind of left out of those discussion Last month which came in at a hundred and sixty thousand was just inched over a little bit Which we could actually brag about that right? Right has been readjusted. Yeah, it was adjusted down wasn't it to like 100 140 something so they lost numbers last month So I don't even understand how that works They come out with numbers which by the way the entire stock market everything you know The whole financial system is based upon these numbers and then

19:42 you know, three weeks later they say oh yeah we have to adjust those down. How does that even work? How can those numbers are bogative? Actually Horowitz has discussed this on the DHM Plug Show especially a couple years ago or year so when it was rampant They were pulling this stunt off every single month. They would readjust the last month's numbers Wow, first they give you these glowing numbers Oh It's fantastic things have improved and then the next month comes out and they say oh by the way last months numbers Not so good we made a mistake We didn't carry the one So who knows I don't know how they do this in that is so they can make such a big mistake Yeah

20:22 Yeah, I mean that's not a small mistake. Percentage wise the difference between 165 and 140 is 20... what is it 5%? Oh, I don't know. I can't do that in my head for some reason. Where did you...? A couple percent maybe. I didn't ask you to do it in your head. I asked you to use the abacus like you always use. The abacus is downstairs So anyway, whatever the case is this is not these are not good numbers. You can't adding 90 thousand is a bad number so anyways So the baseline has to be 150 so it but the media does they've talked about it But they don't talk about it enough, so they know I don't come out and say well They've announced ninety thousand which is not good now why do people leave the workforce?

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Labor Force Participation, ShadowStats Analysis

The discrepancy between official U3 unemployment figures and the ShadowStats (SGS) alternative rate is examined. While government data suggests a recovery, the SGS metric, which includes discouraged workers who have left the labor force, indicates a real unemployment rate of approximately 23%.

shadowstats· john williams· u3 unemployment· u6 unemployment· labor force

21:04 What does that mean when you just retire? No, no but there's the people... Oh yeah. That refers to the unemployment number yes. The active participation. It is called actively looking for work. No it's called active participation Okay. Yes. Active okay same thing. You have to be actively looking for work to be included in the unemployed number If you say, eh I'm not...I don't care. I can't even go on vacation now When you do that then the unemployment actually goes down Just because you quit You quit trying So when you quit trying what happens? Do you just fall off of the edge of the earth and live on the street What happens when someone quits trying where did they go? They live off their savings or move home with mom There's a million things you can do You could be homeless if you want

21:55 I mean, you have a lot of opportunities in this country. The unemployed have opportunities in countries like no others! We can push shopping carts around and beg on the corners... we can hold up cardboard signs that say God Bless... Brain injury, that's my favorite, brain injury. Yeah, veteran brain injuries, God bless. We can move in with mom, we can find a shelter which is usually crowded with a bunch of psychos. Nobody really wants to go to those things. What else could we do? Is there anything else useful that we could... I don't know. Keep the country! That's an idea. So let me ask you another question Why are they always talking about it being non-farm payroll? I don't understand because the farm payroll... It splits up all this manufacturing yeah

22:42 But why is what's why is it split off because the farm payroll was all these calculated different and people work on farms You know that could be the family good kids It's a complete different calculation, and it's never been this far as I know they've never been combined. I just trying to understand Why so that but it seems like they're excluded no? It's just different if that number comes out too hmm But so the way, and we talked about this on the last show I think. So the Bureau of Labor Statistics BLS they say...so they show these 103 jobs last month overall non-farm payroll employment rose by 96 thousand which is supposed to be some big deal

23:24 The economy has, and this is how the White House spins it. The economy has now added private sector jobs for 30 straight months for a total of 4.6 million jobs during that period." Yeah that's essentially a mis- you know they always moan and groan about the misleading stuff that the Republicans do. This is borderline lying Borderline or it is lying also by the way farm payroll is very seasonal I forgot to mention that you know you didn't forget buzzkill jr. Just came in and told you that I heard him in the background Yeah, but I forgot to mention your stunt brain came in brain here He comes if you wake up in the morning And then you're looking at what my brain is in the jar and then buzzkill junior comes in no worry pops They got you covered

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Jennifer Granholm, DNC Auto Industry Narrative

Former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm delivered a high-energy speech at the Democratic National Convention credited Barack Obama with saving the auto industry. The narrative is challenged by the fact that the bailout used taxpayer funds and that bankruptcy for General Motors would have been a reorganization process rather than a total liquidation.

jennifer granholm· dnc· barack obama· auto bailout· general motors

24:11 So the one thing that bothers me about all this, besides you know the bull crap. You know the public if they're gonna be that stupid about this let them but here's the thing that's interesting there's a people look this up go to shadowstats.com okay and then they have a the unemployment rate official u3u6 versus SGS which is the calculation that the shadow guy does he's a business Statistician he's in Cali. I think is in San Francisco John Williams very famous very famous guy who does this and click on the chart Didn't you do the score for Star Wars? Different brother click it on the where says down here, which is that you see the SGS alternative employer rate and click on that charge Yes, I'm clicking on the chart now Oh blow it up. Oh, it shows we have 23% unemployment yes But here's what's we here's what bothers me going up

25:04 It is going up. This is what bothers me the official government numbers which on this chart are in red and gray Which and nobody was talking about you six anymore, which is more of a realistic No, no hold on the official is the U3 which is the red and then my gray is something called broadest u6 what is broadest? What that is the old calculation we used to use oh Before we have three Clint. I think Clinton is the one who maybe introduced us try to get rid of right You gotta get rid of that thing where's the you two number because I like them much better as a band Anyway, so here's what bothers me. I'm going to eventually for people listening out there, I will eventually get to this point after Adam stops with the one-liners if you look at U3 and U6 notice that they're trending down if you look at the SGS alternative notice that it's trending up

26:02 Now if you look back in history on these three little lines, they're not disparaging. They're all pretty much on the same page right? Am I allowed to say anything because i'm afraid now that... Yeah you can say something now because as long it's not about U2 the band So yes uh they are completely in synchronous harmony there is a little convergence here around 2009 There is something Something different happened there. I can't quite tell that was right and then it then right after that a brown looking at around 2010 no, this is when the government started lying I guess yeah

26:39 and it starts going down. 2010 is when it really starts to spread the government is lying and now these charts don't, now this chart is really weird looking because there's never I've never seen that I've always followed this by the way love this guy then the SGS unemployment rate which is more realistic to me 23 percent looks like what it feels like for sure heading at 25 and now we see the lies, and you can see it. It's so obvious at this point in every month it's getting worse I'm gonna put this into the show notes because that's really good hold on a second That's a great site That's a very good resource although it's a frightening resource because it essentially means hey good night who is turning off the lights Don't let the door hit ya in the ass literally actually it looks more like yeah 20% no it is about 23 percent

27:34 And rising. Yeah! Wow... So it is rising if you listen, if you knew what you were listening to when they tell you 90 thousand new jobs that means 40 thousand jobs shortfall. Shortfall. That means its rising is a six feet toad and rising. We can make it out in the homemade boat." This, ladies and gentlemen, is what will continue to happen until our donations get back to normal I will continue to sing Well so okay So about these...so this is very interesting So I was watching the there was one speaker who I saw at the Democratic National Convention

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Wealthy Democrats, Individual Success vs Government Infrastructure

A discussion on the political leanings of the ultra-wealthy suggests that many venture capitalists and tech elites are Democrats who credit government infrastructure for their success. This "you didn't build that" philosophy is contrasted with the individual effort required to build businesses and media properties.

venture capital· kleiner perkins· al gore· taxes· infrastructure

28:16 And I have to stop and help people understand the mind control and the programming that is going on in the... The people at this convention, obviously they're zombies. They're already on board with the program. There's this fourth thing for any of these any of these. Oh yeah, they're all the same. Yeah well there are some dissenters you know of course we know at the RNC there were a lot of Ron Paul people and then people really do was just told to shut up and leave or actually weren't even let in but there's the former governor of Michigan Jennifer Granholm now have you ever heard of this woman before? Yeah I think a couple years ago maybe even talked about her so Jennifer Granholm I'd looked her up on the Wikipedia

29:05 And she actually is from California. Well, she was born in Canada but she grew up in California and it's so obvious when I say politics is show business for ugly people and she's not even ugly! She's too short and her head's not big enough but she tried to become an actress and failed at that and then of course went the easy route and got into politics because that's kind of what you do And for all the, you know this whole you didn't build that thing which I. You know this is a big argument right now amongst American people like if you built a business did you or did you not build that by yourself? Do you have to thank everybody else for walking on the road because you know that road was not paid for just by you it was paid for by everybody else

30:04 Right, we're all one big happy family and it sounds like Soviet Russia. Well it's a fundamental viewpoint and again I know a lot of people who have bought into this and say yeah... And by the way people who have been very successful who have money And whether they are, and they may be lying to me but I know some very very wealthy people. I think most of the ultra-rich are Democrats Yes absolutely there in particular here in Austin of course you know Austin is not exactly the red Texas as you'd think of it's quite the opposite There are some very wealthy people venture capital even

30:41 And they literally will say, I cannot sit next to a Republican. A Republican is not allowed in my house. I will never have dinner with them and I didn't do this... Yeah you know and they're always blaming the Republicans for being exclusive but it's usually these Democrats You take a look at the big venture capital company The most famous Kleiner Perkins They have Al Gore working with them Yeah, everyone's a Democrat. And they're all Democrats I know these guys, I know all these guys except for one couple of exceptions are all Democrats. Ray Lane is the only one who's not except for one okay so um but i'm getting beyond the point and they will all say oh i'm happy to pay more taxes you know they'll say this and either mean it or if their lying or whatever but they also... They got so much money that don't care yeah thats true and they also without exception

31:30 You know, we didn't. We really have society to thank for that and everybody chipping in and paying their fair share And you know yes, you know okay? So it's important This is the Elizabeth Warren thing she really started this you if you're successful John you and I we if we said hey, we built this show together They would say to us no you did not because without the government building the internet You never would have a show. You would not have a show, so that's the fundamental... Although we could have a show on radio which is actually possible No! But I can't? Sorry no because the government allowed you to have the frequency However when it comes to the jobs that were created

32:16 This was not and this is that I'm gonna play this clip for you. This is not according to the General consensus among Democrats Not something that was a collective No, it was one man who did that can you guess who? That man was I would say It wasn't Joe Biden know and this is what I find so interesting And I don't understand why the Republicans don't jump on this and say hold on a second You can't on the one hand say You didn't build it and on the other hand say Barack Obama waved his magic wand and saved or created all these jobs because if I'm not mistaken John The bailout was also our money wasn't it? Yeah, no. I don't understand. I can't understand any of the Republican messaging I don't understand that even though they've hinted about at the American dream concept with that we harp on We're just getting by now is defined as the American

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Mitt Romney, Republican Messaging Failures

The Republican party and Mitt Romney are criticized for failing to effectively counter Democratic narratives regarding the auto industry and the "American Dream." The hosts argue that Romney's inability to explain the bankruptcy process has allowed his opponents to frame him as heartless.

mitt romney· gop· bankruptcy· detroit· political strategy

33:16 dream by Obama himself why they don't jump on any of this is beyond me. It's not beyond me it's because they're all idiots that's the Delcan here. That's all the same people and they don't give a crap, just fooling you into thinking there's yeah I know I agree with that wrestler number one wrestler number two but i want to listen to this Jennifer Granholm who she went into an orgasmic ecstasy of shouting and yelling about one man And I was just like, my mouth was open. Please watch the video. The whole video is six or seven minutes. She is actually pumping her fist and jumping up and down and people are crying it's just whoa! The entire auto industry and the lives of over 1 million hardworking Americans teetered on the edge of collapse and with that the entire manufacturing sector of this country and we looked everywhere for help

34:10 Almost nobody had the guts to help us. Not the banks, not the private investors and not Bain Capital In 2009, The Cavalry arrived And our new president, Farrell came in! Wow, really? The cavalry arrived. You want to hear more don't you tell me you want to hear more of this lady well you might as well I'm not gonna say no to that. He made the tuffles! And he saved the Ameri-industry! He did it with your money This is this is the

35:06 Wow! Now you know, you know Mitt Romney he saw the same crisis. So then she goes... actually she has a pretty funny line here I have to say great writing you want to hear her great line? Yeah okay for you just let it play because i think its you know I'm sure the line will show up on its own and you know what he said? Let Detroit go bankrupt Now sure, sure Mitt Romney loves our lakes and our trees. He loves our cars so much they even have their own elevator. So this is it that's the setup that's just a set up line?

35:49 design and build and sell those cars? Well, in Romney's world the cars get the elevator and the workers get the shaft. Come on man that is a good line! That is an old joke I never heard that one I liked it Yeah, well... I thought it was good. You and the turnip truck No me and all the idiots there clearly who are so but this he Hold on let's make something at least slightly clear which seems to be overlooked in all this and Republicans again with their crappy message and can't seem to get this across is that if General Motors went bankrupt it wasn't going out of business

36:29 bankruptcy is a process. No, it was on the process to stay in business legitimately they would stay in business and but they would be going through a process and the process that would apparently involve which is what nobody really wants talk about probably being a little more competitive on the union side of things so you can compete with those car manufacturing facilities in South Carolina put up by Honda and BMW and places like you know in that area where they have different labor laws The industry would not have gone out of business. It was just reorganized, like I mean United Airlines or let's say Continental they went bankrupt. I can still take a continental flight American Airlines is in bankruptcy right now. They're in bankruptcy now! I can go take a flight you can even sit first class. So this misleading of course yeah and Romney of course and Romney you know I believe as

37:19 I don't know, maybe he's retarded. I can't really put my finger on what is wrong with the guy but he can't explain any of this and so they're just blasting him from every angle and when you are done with your little exhibition, I want to play the woman who is head of Planned Parenthood and how she...I think they have a kind of nice leveraged angle on their whole scene that I honestly cannot believe it. And I'll put in the bread book, I don't see how it's possible unless the economy collapses in October which can happen... How is even remotely possible for Romney to beat this guy? Can we play her now? Planned Parenthood lady? I got three of her! This is the woman who you actually called me in the middle of the night and said Adam you've gotta Google her she so smoking hot

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Cecile Richards, Planned Parenthood DNC Speech

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards is analyzed following her appearance at the Democratic National Convention. The hosts note her repeated mispronunciation of "Planned Parenthood" as "Planned Parented," attributing the error to shorthand notes on a teleprompter.

cecile Richards· planned parenthood· dnc· teleprompter· ann richards

38:09 You did, you did! Oh, oh you lie. So she starts off though, she's on the prompter and obviously nervous because twice she says the name of her... We need to set it up. You gotta set it up! Who is she? What's her name? Okay come on. She's the daughter of the governor of Ann Richards. She's Cecilie Richards and she's a cute blonde who likes...she looks a lot like the singer from

38:47 What does not look like Annie Lennox of the year? She looks just like any letter. He looks a hair No, she's always when she speaks. She's got she's winking and she smiling at the camera She's really good at working the camera looked like Annie Lenox. She looks like When you see on TV if you saw these clips instead of whatever you were doing with your time If you'd seen these you would have said that Annie Lennox is up there talking then you go Oh no It's not as this What's her name? She looks like Annie Lennox 20 years ago maybe. She goes up there and this is what now she did. This shows me that this is so scripted She had a couple one-liners, but just so script here she is now you listen to this clip It's called this the planned parent what clip mm-hmm? She is she is going to say the name of her organization twice and blow it twice And she is the president of this organ and he's the president good evening

39:46 Good evening. On behalf of the millions of mothers, daughters wives sisters and friends Republicans and Democrats who've counted on Planned Parenthood for health care And in honor of the thousands of doctors and staff at Planned Parenthood Health Centers all across America She's saying planned parented. Why? How come she can't say it? Because I think somebody shortened it on the prompter Oh yeah, that's very possible. Speaking to us she's not gonna make that mistake we'll just put plan P I don't know what it was. It was like, what? Because later in her speech she actually said planned parenthood. Probably it was P-L-N-D-P-A-R-E-N-T-D. It's possible. Parented. Yeah. I mean it is possible that somebody was writing...I've seen it done where somebody writes shorthand on the prompter. No no this happens all the time. I guarantee you this is absolutely what happened. It said planned parent...parented with

40:46 P-A-R-E-N-T-D, and this woman has probably not even ever been in the office of Planned Parenthood. She is a Borg. I don't even think she's real as in she's a CEO. I'm sorry! Yeah no, she looks like a Borg but anyway so she blows these lines...I mean it reminds me at the time when I saw somebody reading from her prompter and they had the pronunciation and it would you know say something like pronounce it this way on there yeah brackets oh yeah they got to just read sure sure no or they'll actually say pronounce this way oh so actually I've seen that happen so you know who used to do that Kennedy remember Kennedy on MTV Oh Kennedy that woman? Yeah the other woman Kennedy yes on MTV she was

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Teleprompter Techniques, Bill Clinton vs Barack Obama

The technical aspects of using a teleprompter are discussed, comparing Bill Clinton's ability to weave in and out of a script with Barack Obama's perceived reliance on the device. An anecdote from Tech TV illustrates the risks of a teleprompter operator falling asleep during a live broadcast.

bill clinton· barack obama· teleprompter· public speaking· tech tv

41:30 I did not get along with her, I'll be up front. She was such a bonehead that she would read those kinds...she'd be like oh i'm sorry I just read the instruction on the prompter instead of uh okay she would read the actual pronunciation instructions in teleprompter yeah well Yeah, you gotta be careful when you're reading from a prompter because if you get into a zone where you're just robotically reading and not really thinking about it You will do that. And I think that's what happened to her here. Just as a side note before we get back to here...I have an article in the show notes about Bill Clinton speech Bill Clinton is one of those people and I can do it. I can do quite a bit of it but he is really the master where you'll take a 20 minute speech that is scripted in the teleprompter and he will weave in and out of the teleprompter embellishing and adding entire words, this only works by the way if you have a teleprompter operator who you've worked with and who knows what you're doing

42:28 Right. And the number one guy on set in television, the guy who I would always take to lunch two guys and always take the audio guy but it always would take the teleprompter guy or gal to lunch because they are the ones that will save your ass in this type of situation and if you really know how to work with them You can be a genius Bill Clinton he when he doubled his time Yeah Yeah, no he'll always go over because he does Shaggy Dog style talks. He's got the prompter up there and uses it both as a prompter and his notes so he'll go off script and go wandering around you better be good know where...you have to know that

43:06 The script, you have to be able to get to it with the prompter. You have to roll up and roll back and if the Republicans want to win all they have to do is take out Obama's prompter guy. They take him out like disappear him I think the president is lost It's probably true, it was a sick idea. I'm serious as i can be. I remember one time when I was doing tech TV and that was uh... reading off the prompter and then the thing stops dead right so im yakking away looking where the prompter goes and you could just barely see him in the back fell asleep. I haven't had that happen. He fell asleep! he really? he was A sleep?

43:52 So, you know but our president when the teleprompter fails he actually will go and he'll be like hey can you roll it back up? Can you do this? Can you do that here. I charge PCAST with advising me about national strategies to nurture and sustain a culture of scientific innovation In addition to John, sorry the uh I just noticed that uh i jumped the gun here. Go ahead move it up. Oh that's so worse when you have to say go ahead and move it! I'd already introduced all you guys in biomedicine

44:30 That's when you're, I mean at least just go to your notes man. You amateur! Yeah amateur that's it amateur. Amateur yeah actually what happened one time I learned the lesson the hard way when The Prompter just died because real smart newsreaders they always usually have the entire script in front of them on blue paper And they are, if you notice them they'll be talking to you on the camera and then they'll be flipping the sheets. But they're never looking at the sheets some of them try to make it look like that they look at the sheet and memorize it and read off the prompter I've seen that technique but generally speaking there just flipping sheets Yeah because there's nothing on them Right! They know when to flip them and if the prompter drops dead they go right to the sheet so right on the cue right perfect

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Funding, War on Women Narrative

Cecile Richards' claims that Republicans intend to end access to birth control and cancer screenings are characterized as a highly effective "War on Women" political strategy. The hosts argue that while the claims are skewed, the Republican party has no effective counter-messaging.

planned parenthood· mitt romney· paul ryan· birth control· womens health

45:17 And, you know that's what Obama should learn to do. Now move on with your... Okay PP woman slamming Romney now she starts to do some material now but her messaging which is that the government should be sponsoring Planned Parenthood and it's and is that everything's in attack against women she does this so well I think it's extremely effective so let's play the part where she slamming Romney Ryan and John Boehner and Todd Aiken of the Tea Party took over the House of Representatives, they promised us they were going to create jobs and jumpstart the economy. But instead on day one, they came after women's health and haven't let up since."

46:00 So first, they voted to end cancer screenings and well women visits for 5 million women. They voted to end funding for birth control at Planned Parenthood And for good measure they even tried to redefine rape. Now Mitt Romney is campaigning to get rid of Planned Parenthood and overturn Roe vs Wade We won't let him! Alright, so this is like bullcrap too. I mean it's not like he's trying to get rid of Planned Parenthood He's trying to get government funding reduced and because we know that's true Yeah That's true But you know but that's okay It's twisted beautifully And I think it really works and I think when she finishes here which is the next clip Which is a big says fig finish, but she means big finish oh?

46:55 I think she just really drives the point home. It's a very sympathetic argument even though it is skewed obviously, but i think that works and i think that the republicans are being portrayed as heartless bastards who hate women and i think its being done very well We've come so far! So why are we having to fight in 2012 against politicians who want end access to birth control? It's like we woke up on a bad episode of Mad Men. Because when Mitt Romney says he'll get rid of Planned Parenthood and turn the clock back on A Century Of Progress, it has real consequences for the 3 million patients who depend on Planned Parenthood each year – women like Libby Bruce who you just heard from

47:49 or women like Brandi McKay, a 27-year old woman whose stage 2 breast cancer was caught at the Planned Parenthood health center. And thank God she's now cancer free! The woman who went on Facebook after Paul Ryan voted to defund Planned Parenthood and posted well I guess they don't understand that us military wives go to Planned Parenthood when the doctor on base can't see us So Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are campaigning for women's votes by saying that women need their help Okay, this is coming from two men who are committed to ending insurance coverage for birth control Who would turn women's health care decisions over to our bosses and who won't even stand up for equal pay for women

48:52 Okay, was my grandmother back in Texas would have said any more help from Mitt Romney and I'm gonna have to take in ironing As a Texan. I kind of resent that so she I think really pounds these points home. I think it works and the taken ironing gag I thought was great It's just there they got no counter to this sort of thing on the other side They haven't got a prayer. And the whole thing is all the same, it gives you credit. Well this is all the same but still... well I mean we can just stop talking about politics altogether and have nothing to talk about? No no! We just stopped talking about American politics It doesn't matter In fact I can stop because I have to set something straight. I played the vote from the Democratic convention where clearly

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

RNC Floor Vote, Party Loyalty Extremism

A controversial floor vote at the Republican National Convention involving Ron Paul delegates is compared to similar maneuvers at the DNC. The discussion highlights the extreme polarization in American politics, where individuals refuse to associate with members of the opposing party.

rnc· ron paul· floor vote· political parties· polarization

49:49 if not equal, the nays probably had it over the yeas. Oh yeah and they ramrodded that thing through so this the same thing happened at the Republican convention I wanted to play this but i need to caveat it because a lot of people and this comes back to our prompter discussion A lot of people saw this clip and they said It was already scripted on the prompter for him to say The yeas have it And I'm going to just disagree because that is not the way the prompter read, because I saw the prompter video. You know what I'm talking about here John? Yeah and I saw the prompter video and that's what it did say! No if you saw the whole prompter video not just whatever you saw but if you see the whole video as it was put up on YouTube It says we're going to take the votes

50:36 If yay, go to scenario one in the prompter like in a... Yeah and then it said scenario two. Exactly! So the way this works is... So they had like 2 prompters? He would scroll up or scroll past scenario 1 to scenario 2 if there was a name on it so its not true that it was already pre-scripted I'm just debunking that now Okay, I can accept the possibility In other words, if they scroll further would have said the same thing only yay Yes exactly However It is not obvious that the yeas had it and that's just the 20 seconds I wanted to play. That, I think is funny. How about this then? How about this for a third theory?

51:38 It did have the two, it had this fork on the prompter. And yeah... The guy never... The guy reading was so amateurish that he didn't give the guide a chance to move it forward So he just read right through the first fork and said yay No I think that whatever this motion was but these people You have to understand... It's to get rid of Ron Paul Yeah! That is exactly what it was for And the what needs to happen, what should happen... Wait I got a fourth theory. Oh God please! It said that little thing about the fork on there just to fool people like you or use it as a counter argument. I'm so silly they've got me again. There was no fork They got me again John yes exactly that's what it was yeah now

52:35 If you are awakened and listening to this podcast, and if you are a member of either of these parties. You need to burn down your party headquarters. Tell them I said so because you are being tricked and fooled into believing that you matter! You stupid piece of cannon fodder! You mean nothing to them! Isn't that obvious from the clips we've played here? So the revolt means to take place... They just love to lie. ...inside these parties, that's what the revolt is about I like the way people lap it up Yeah! Okay we'll take it And I wouldn't have a Republican in my house Oh my God and I've actually heard from really smart successful people who say this I will not have a Republican over for dinner and I'm like oh man I better shut up It's nothing-I can't say anything now Well it's like you know same thing with I can't understand why would anybody listen to Rush Limbaugh?

53:30 Yeah, why would anybody read Sarah Palin's book? We need to burn books. This is a much better thing I can't do any of that. Well you could just do the same thing with the Republicans, say have you ever read Karl Marx and Lenin? They have some great writings by the way. Yeah. They're no slouches. Has anybody ever read any of this stuff? Oh those damn commies they've never even read the material! No. If you don't know what if you don't know what the other side's saying specifically yeah then you can't just say like i'm not gonna read that i'm not gonna listen to him. That's wrong But that's how it goes. You really have to check in somewhere if that is your attitude, I'm not having a Republican over to the house What do you think he's going to do? Rape your wife? Why specifically? Well its like my Uncle Don man its like these idiots

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Motivated Rejection of Science, University of Western Australia Study

A study from the University of Western Australia titled "NASA Faked the Moon Landing—Therefore, Climate Science Is a Hoax" is examined. The paper links skepticism of man-made global warming to a "conspiracist ideation" and belief in other theories involving HIV/AIDS, the CIA, and the moon landing.

climate change· moon landing· conspiracy theories· university of western australia· science denial

54:22 It's mind-controlled. Yeah, here's... so okay it's all a part of the mind control and this actually brings me to this new study which is now being lamented, it's being rolled out everywhere in fact we need to play the... The science is end! Science! Because you're actually involved with this. This is going to affect you as well because you will see this, and this is a professional study It's from Australia by University of Western Australia it's heavily funded its being rolled out everywhere as fact and it is the motivated rejection of science study Oh yeah! Now this is big one. This is really a big one now

55:13 We're almost upon the anniversary of September 11th. You, I would have to say question at least one part of September 11th Why did World Trade Center 7 fall like a rock for no apparent reason? Exactly the same way the other ones fell, by the way. WTC7 won't go away! So I knew you would say that... However because you now let me ask you one more question Do you believe in man-made global warming

55:52 I'm a skeptic. Ooh, skeptic! Even though as this science is in and everybody believes because actually that's the giveaway everybody doesn't believe but the one side is saying everyone does believe and that's very suspicious so because of this you might as well just join my camp and say you believe that NASA faked the moon landing Because this is what the study is saying This study is saying there was a direct correlation. People who believe the moon landing was faked are also climate science, climate change deniers and oh man HIV does not cause AIDS The CIA killed Martin Luther King 9-11 wasn't inside job all of this

56:44 So if you're about that, what about the Stargate in the Gulf of Aden? Is that in there? No. No no. That's moved to Seattle by the way but that's coming up later so just from this study and then you've got to read the PDF in the show notes 442.NAShownotes.com Just a couple highlights and it's 33 pages Now what is title again The title is motivated rejection of science A subtitle, NASA faked the moon landing therefore climate science and all science is a hoax. An anatomy of the motivated rejection of science. Did you remember what was the thing it was about a year ago on our show we were talking about to connect they're trying to make a connection between oh

57:26 Yeah, yeah if you didn't believe in global warming as a man-made phenomenon caused by CO2 You didn't believe in the Holocaust. Wasn't that the connection? Yes but the Holocaust is not in here They've gone all the way... They're fine tuning this thing is what they're doing In fact I will check and see. I'm just going to do a quick search on holocaust because I didn't see it It's 33 pages No, no. There is no... So they fine-tuned this pitch and they pulled a holocaust because people were really upset about that? Yeah! And I don't think also Republican, let me just check. Re-publi-can. No thats not in here. Okay so let me just read from 33 pages, no coincidence of course. Abstract Although nearly all domain experts agree

58:22 that human CO2 emissions are altering the world's climate, segments of the public remain unconvinced by these scientific evidence. Internet blogs have become a vocal platform for climate denial and bloggers have taken a prominent and influential role in questioning climate science." And then they go on about the survey... It gets better! Endorsements of the free market which is, see if you endorse the free market you are a climate denier now. Also... Oh that's interesting twist! Oh yeah predicted the rejection of other established scientific findings such as the facts that HIV causes AIDS and that smoking causes lung cancer we additionally show that endorsement of a cluster of conspiracy theories eg that the CIA killed Martin Luther King or

59:20 predicts rejection of climate science as well as the rejection of other scientific findings above and beyond endorsements of laissez-faire free markets. So what is happening here? I mean, you might as well just go get me a yellow star and put it on my jacket because this is what is happening if you reject any type of science If you question it which of course is what science is all about then you are going to be lumped in with all of these theories and labeled a complete lunatic. And I predict in DSM-6, we have DSM-5 coming up...I think in DSM 6 you will be medicated forcefully because of that

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Children on Airplanes, First Class Restrictions

A perceived trend of hostility toward children on airplanes is discussed, with reports that some airlines have restricted children under age seven from first-class cabins. The hosts link this social shift to broader patterns of stereotyping and intolerance in modern society.

airlines· first class· travel· parenting· social trends

1:03:42 It is this is the thank you for pointing it out. This is stereotyping and it is a part of why people if I have an alternative view, and if I'm running around, if I'm running like a nutball that's one thing but if I just say no, I have a different view on something and people go crazy as we have seen happen this year and you were you pegged it? This is what happens in a totalitarian fascist state And there's something else that's happening This is a very disturbing trend. You and you when the kids were young, John, did you fly with them? Yeah. OK. And did people when they would sit down on the airplane and you had your kids and they were young and so they might have some problems with the air pressure and they might cry but did people upon boarding the plane sit down ago? Oh, kids. Oh crap! This flight's going to suck

1:04:42 Because this is what's happening. Have you noticed this very disturbing trend where you're on the plane and people see other people with children, and they already make comments? And they've got a frowny face and like Oh God it probably gonna puke on me. It's killing... have you noticed this disturbing trend? I actually have not noticed it to the apparently the extent that you have. Um, I sense once in a while you will see people who are adverse just being around children usually old maids types of people to use an old phrase It is already outlawed on almost every single airline that i know of Children under I think the age of seven are not allowed in first class

1:05:30 This was, this didn't happen when my daughter was tiny. I mean we flew first class with her when she was young. This is now outlawed! I don't know this Oh yeah no kids in first-class They paid for a first-class ticket? You cannot buy a first-class ticket as far as i know on any airline anymore In America if you're under...I think it's six or seven Well, I haven't heard this. Yeah? I have to look this up and I question this No well I know a lot of people who have young kids and at this conversation came up the other day And I've been doing some informal research informal Q&A and This is a disturbing trend where people feel for some reason That having kids on the plane it's like oh god Can't you take the bus you need to take the great take the train whatever it is

1:06:29 And and they are upset by people having their children on the plane. OK, well I'd love to hear from any of our producers this is just what I have found an informal survey but i think it's related I think somehow there's something going on and it is absolutely related and this disturbing stuff happening And by the way, I want to you know we mentioned a stereotype thing. I want to say that people out there if you If you will get into an argument with somebody and they start throwing stuff back at you mm-hmm And they're in they're coming in from a liberal perspective Mm-hmm throw it back Adam saying your Stereotyping and when you because date that is like It's like throwing water on The Wicked Witch They just can't deal with it because they can't stereotype cuz it's like it's like confusing the computer in old Star Trek film

1:07:24 Or no Star Trek episode where you confuse the computer with logic. Just say you're stereotyping And it'll blow their mind yes, that is like it's like inserting a virus Yeah your stereotyping but of course stereotyping is only black See that's stereotyping in their mind. They don't understand. Believe me, there is a lot of stereotyping. They'll call you out on stereotyping under all... especially any ethnic stuff So while we're on the topic though I would like to... Oh sorry yes? Well if you are still on climate change No well I'm... Climate gate thing Well let me just move off into my denialism and then we can come back Okay then we will go back Okay so uh..I have not been able to find the actual audio from NASA

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

ISS Toothbrush Repair, Apollo 13 Movie Reference

Astronauts on the International Space Station reportedly used a toothbrush and a pipe cleaner to fix a power unit bolt. A Mission Control quote comparing the event to "living on the set of Apollo 13" is highlighted as a potential slip-of-the-tongue regarding the authenticity of space missions.

nasa· iss· apollo 13· sunita williams· space station

1:08:08 And I've been all over the site and maybe someone can find it for me, but the The quote has been published widely across the internet So what happened this past week is on the International Space Station. We had a big PR moment Oh yes How hilarious because the astronauts were able to fix the hundred billion dollar space station with a toothbrush? They're MacGyver But did you hear the quote that came back, that one of the astronauts said? No. You probably didn't. Here is a... The only news report I could find and just didn't want to only read it but you can find the quote everywhere online listen to what the astronaut said after fixing the space station with a toothbrush

1:08:54 a little ingenuity and the toothbrush. Two astronauts have been using a rather low-tech solution to try to restore full power for the International Space Station. It's armed with homemade tools including a toothbrush and pipe cleaner The astronaut unsuccessfully tried to make the repair during his spacewalk last week but the stuck space station bolt prevented the astronauts from installing the power unit With no hardware store for hundreds of miles and no supply ships due for months, the team had to improvise creating these tools to clean out debris from the bolt socket. As Central Florida's News 13 explains, the space station can't operate at full power without a power switcher

1:09:30 It will help route power from the solar arrays to different parts of the station. Without this new unit, the station can't relay power from two of the eight solar arrays." After the walk concluded Mission Control said it's been like living on the set of Apollo 13 for the past few days. It's been like living on the set. No wonder they pulled it! On the set of a... But listen, she doesn't even catch it She is such an idiot she continues Referring to the 1970 effort to save the three astronauts during the failed moon mission No no referring to the movie but she's so mind controlled that she's right on board with it So they actually said

1:10:10 It was like being on the set of Apollo 13. This set, I mean we should have...I mean we're glad we kept some of the pieces from that set for this set and they have electric toothbrushes i might add according to all the reports so not only did they have an analog toothbrush laying around just randomly on this highly controlled hundred billion dollar space station but a pipe cleaner you gonna tell me some dude up there is smoking a pipe and he has a pipe cleaner Come on Yeah, that you mention it a pipe cleaner would it be part of some kit if there's some tubes? They need to clean with a pipe cleaner. That's interesting

1:10:55 And they were very specific. It's an interesting guess, I think the observation is valid that why would there be a pipe cleaner is specifically that little bitty thing with some metal thing with a little it's like a test tube brush only this really small for pipes yeah specifically for pipes. It's a pipe cleaner you clean the pipe so you can get some air to come through after builds up all the goo And they use electric toothbrushes. Why do they all just... It's just a random extra toothbrush! Like one of the astronauts left his toothbrush, what did he leave his underpants behind to on the sleepover? Come on and then just to top it off NASA does impossible pretty darn well ABC reports The Astronauts were greeted with champagne when they got back inside the space station No alcohol Of course because alcohol is not allowed in space. And they have alcohol-free champagne onboard

1:11:47 Come on. That's what she said, essentially. Come on! What kind of a report is this? This is terrible! No alcohol but champagne's flowing! But the pipe cleaner... And why does it... Here's another question They could say the thing about the champagne but what is the point of the disclaimer about the alcohol in the report at all Yeah well of course because you Well from my perspective because it just makes you more confused More confused and an idiot about what happened These guys are on the set. Yeah, okay? All right, so you believe whatever you want It's the oldest crappiest set in the world If I hadn't seen it fly over and have a hard time believing in but the set of Apollo 13 So thank you very much NASA for that wonderful quote someone needs to be shot and of course You can't find the video or the quote on the nasa.gov website anywhere

1:12:45 Which also I might point out, you have to do www.nasa.gov Really? They don't have the uh they don't have it set up modern in a modern way No go ahead and type in nasa.gov and you will get oops! Go ahead try it These are the guys that brought you so they can put a car with a camera on Mars but they can't configure w- nasa.gov without the www That's your science right there, baby. Mine is on it. Yeah Am I right or what? No it doesn't get me works yeah no in mind does not work for the NASA government throws to WWE my browser to write a beat Firefox puts It in after a while at times out but nasa.gov by itself does not work as a website so This website yeah, you know they're so great

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Arctic Ice Melt, BBC Climate Reporting

A BBC report on shrinking Arctic ice is critiqued for attributing natural historical warming to man-made pollution without sufficient evidence. The hosts contrast global warming alarms with unseasonably cool temperatures in Austin, Texas, and Alabama.

bbc· arctic ice· climate change· jet stream· weather patterns

1:13:45 Well, they need to get that guy does the 18 million dollar websites apparently you want to say something about climate gate while we're Yeah, you might as well play the glide the climate gate jingle. Oh I'd love to do that hold on a second here we go To the gate to the gate So they you know the BBC is on board with the whole thing to extreme so they had to bring this report out about and but the thing is I think we've seen this report before about that shrinking ice shelf in the summer as it melts off around. Oh wait, this is that Arctic ice

1:14:30 that if you flew up there it would be gone by the time you got there. This is the real cause of this thing. Yeah, yeah okay so there's one little anomalous comment in here but this is a pro-climate change who doesn't say this show's not balanced? pro-climate change report from the BBC which brings in all the memes and it does everything, this is just like Friday. And I think it pretty much summarizes things and then there's one little gotcha that they can't seem to get around and they mention it and kind of blow by it and say oh we're all going to die but anyway play this. This is how much ice on average is left at the end of a summer melt

1:15:06 Compare that to what's left right now and the melt is still underway. This windswept landscape has warmed up in the past for natural reasons, but scientists are convinced man-made pollution is accelerating the change and they say it's big enough to make a difference We find a bearded seal on a tiny iceberg one of many creatures that need the ice The ocean will refreeze this winter But sometime soon, there may be a summer with no ice at all. So the impact of this great change may well be felt far beyond this remote part of the world. Heat waves in the United States, storms in Europe... All because the melting of the ice may shift the position of the jet stream This is early days for research into this but scientists are convinced scale of the change here means they're onto something

1:15:58 David Chipman there with some very alarming findings from the Arctic North that affect all of us around the world. You're watching BBC World News... The science is in! So he says this has happened in the past, but they think that was for natural reasons Yeah This isn't But they don't know why it isn't Somehow it happened before by the way For natural reasons Yes But now they are convinced that this one which Is unnatural This one for some reason is unnatural. The science is in it! Why is this? Because the scientists say so, that he said that right there the scientists agree you know It's pretty soon will be Scientists four out of five scientists agree You should cut your penis off and people be like oh yeah I better cut it off when this is how stupid people are The women may not be that stupid but they don't have penises

1:16:52 I'm just trying to prove a point here. You have to be very, very careful when you just say science is in and believe it! And this is how you're being tricked! Do you know that we have 78 degrees here in Austin Texas for the past two days? It looks like its going to be that way for the next week. Okay... I want to repeat, this is September beginning of September 78 degrees in Austin Texas Well what is it normally? 100! Oh yeah Alabama has been the coolest summer ever. So where's the whole... Well, that doesn't count as weather I'm sorry! What am i thinking? When it's my weather it doesn't count when its their whether it counts Okay. It's the hottest on record Yeah forever for the past 279 months This is a real problem

1:17:53 Jobs are going up or you're in a job recovery I mean everything is lies and then they wonder what people were skeptical about some of the science information this comes through from a bunch of guys who Don't make any sense or any money for that reason We don't make sense. We don't make money Oh John John John, okay now you're gonna love this no actually it's sad if this is this is the saddest thing ever So sometimes when we have an off donation day or week, um... We try to augment that by doing uh... you know by you coaching me do some voice work in the hopes of getting a national gig. Right and your making me lose confidence in my ability to direct Well so uh.. Do you remember the most recent one we did?

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Taylor Swift Sony Commercial, Voiceover Audition

An audition for a Taylor Swift Sony camera commercial is recounted, where the "cool male" spec was ignored in favor of a "zombie-like" delivery in the final aired version. The hosts conclude that modern advertising prefers flat, robotic vocal performances over energetic ones.

taylor swift· sony nex· voiceover· advertising· zombie read

1:18:47 Uh, you have to remind me. Taylor Swift! Oh right, Taylor Swift. Okay so okay I'm going to reread the specs for the script which you directed me upon So the spec was, and this is for Taylor Swift, uh the web announcement. Specs 18 to 28 year old cool male positive reading should not feel rushed but needs a few beats and should fit within 30 seconds no more than two takes please And so you and I we rehearsed it You got me pumped up and then you had me do the voiceover and uh you agreed that that was the one right? We're just

1:19:23 We're going to agree that and I think even the chat room who was listening live at the time said, OK. That's the one right? So just play that for a second just so you can get it. Adam Curry Vox Agency Taylor Swift Web announcement This is Taylor Swift. She loves to give this Sony NEX 5R as a gift. She also loves to give back to her fans which gave Sony an idea As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as their personal photographer. You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX but first you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos and what you said is put a little bit of the surfer dude in and he actually pumped me up like you love Taylor, Taylor is the best and that's what I came up with then we all universally agreed that was The Read right?

1:20:15 I think so. I think a little bit could have been toned down in the beginning, if i had heard that as from the guy doing the producing...I would've said bring him and we can work with this guy! And then they would put you into studio in normal way and then they made to say it over and over again till get one day wanted and that your done. You get your dual check for 45 bucks or whatever is 60 bucks And boom you're back home, and you can go buy some food. Okay so needless to say We did not Go by food do not pass ago didn't get a callback No But the the one the guy that did get it has here's his here's the official its out now Here is the commercial here's the commercial this is Taylor Swift she loves to give the Sony NEX 5r as a gift She also loves to give back to our fans

1:21:02 which gave Sony an idea. As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony is giving you an NEX camera and the chance to come along as her personal photographer You'll document every amazing moment with your Sony NEX but first you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos Then who knows? Maybe you get to join me on the road and use a Sony NEX camera to capture So if they had just said can we please have a zombie We would've done the right read Wow, that's nothing like the spec. It's nothing like my read either John No I not let your read for sure but what's this read the spec again? 18 to 28 year old cool male positive The guy is not he's like he's 30 if he's a day He's not cool. He sounds like Okay gone Reading should not feel rushed but needs a few beats and should fit within thirty seconds

1:21:55 I think, okay he did one thing I like which is he punched up butt first. Oh, come on. You know he sounded like one of those announcers that you hear on PBS Yeah! So I think... Which is a zombie-like quality yeah you're right it was a zombie they just put we want zombie to read this script I think we have been reading this all wrong and from now on i'm just going to do every single audition like a zombie because I think that's what they want for some reason It may be a big game, but they want some Always complains is that yeah people talk dry but they always drink sweet. Yeah, they just want zombies I think that's that's what and and I'm listening to the radio on television all these commercials are just zombies it's the same guy Have you pay attention to it?

1:22:46 I'm going to now. This guy could have, it could have been the Sprint commercial you know? Sprint now offers unlimited bandwidth get the sprint with the new HTC TCX Samsung Note Galaxy 3S or the new iPhone Sprint Taylor Swift It's just they just want zombies Zombies need to talk to zombies because you identify with zombies Oh we should've known this We do this show damnit! All right, well we here. We are a slow week I have to say but we did have some people help us out Michael McPhee and Langley British Columbia

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Producer Donations, Iranian Earthquake Anomalies

During a segment on listener donations, a producer notes a series of shallow earthquakes in Iran located near nuclear facilities. The message suggests these events may be the result of covert super-weapons or HAARP technology used against a sovereign power.

iran· earthquakes· nuclear sites· haarp· donations

1:23:34 $111.11 he's a first-time donor wants to douchebag he wants a douche bag yes what he says but he says many people will confirm that I do propagate the no agenda formula so much so that shut up girl shutup slave is probably deserved we'll save these two in the end anyway the one one one one one is a dedicated dedication to his beautiful daughter Amanda who turns 18 today September 9th and she's now enrolled at the University of Calgary which is in what province Adam? That is in Alberta. Which is where all the money is that's where they suck the money out of us, sucking the money out of us. We know whats going on up here but it's proof

1:24:19 We too are sucking the money out. She gets a birthday shout out on the best podcast in the universe Wow that's probably worth more in there in the karmic sense besides when she becomes a sysadmin or a Geologist, or whatever. She can use her stock options to buy chicken by anything. She wants anyhow Please send Amanda Amanda a sciences in and some karma for her new events adventure in cow town Which is away of course the BC people?

1:25:00 refer to a Calgary now so we need a shut up slave science is in karma okay you've got karma and she's on the list and she's on the list for a birthday call out Patrick McComb in Mount Vernon New York or make them make him become make make him I'm sure $111 no comment And then Wolfhound. It's a Chinese wolf. Chinese wolf, and Keller Tex is $100. A long time boner it's time to be a donor without revealing my age I'll say that i've been a fan of both you for some time. You're truly the best podcast in the universe

1:25:51 Your promotion of critical thinking and media assassination is unrivaled. Thank you It's true I had that, i don't see anyone else doing this...I had the pleasure- And it's not that hard You just have to sit and read a lot Shhh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh What a wonderful two years it was prior to the base closure. He must have been there when I was flying over it, if he... because I was there all the way up until it closed and flew over many times because you have to ask permission to transit their airspace. I would fly over the base all of time.

1:26:32 The Dutch people are the greatest and still I still have many friends back there. I'm asking for job karma as i'm tired of wasting time and energy in my current position Absolutely special airmen job karma were giving you right now. You've got Karma, that's only airman can give that out Chris Whitten in Huntersville North Carolina $100 he gets a chemtrails karma for his family and himself We just had our fifth anniversary to hope for at least a couple more Just Kidding Lots more keep up the good work You've got karma like that nice combo nice combo Eric Henry in Orlando, Florida 8401 in the morning you John and Adam I've just finished episode 435 which I tried to donate for three five. He's that far base seven episodes behind man Give it up

1:27:24 Which I tried to... just skip ahead. Just give it up! Wait a minute, wait a minute! We do repeat ourselves enough i think So he won't actually hear this He won't actually hear this for another month Until 2013 And we'll all be dead he may never hear this Which I tried to donate but for PayPal kicked it back and I was astounded To hear a douchebag call out which I would have made Please call out Matt Farrell as a douchebag DOOCHEBAG He introduced me to the show so he's getting old douchebag callouts. He introduced me to the show some time ago and is still hitting people in their mouth but not donating! To the best podcast in the universe, Adam I will give you some leniency because you are on the road but about one month ago now there were series of earthquakes all over Iran

1:28:12 funny enough they were all very shallow and located in the irregular Iranian nuke sites. Please harp on this for a while, pun intended as the US is using their super weapon to covertly attack a sovereign foreign power against the will of American people I recently hit my wife in the mouth she liked it and didn't call the cops please Please assassinate the media some more so we can give up more money. Did I get Obama riled up ready to go? Do you have that? No, I don't have that! I have it somewhere now but i dont' have it handy. 2 to the head karma shot. It usually hit people in their mouth 84-01 equals 8 plus 4 plus 0 plus 1 equals 13 plus...8 four dot 01 equals eight times four times plus zero plus one equals 33 Right, so what..I can give him a take that to the bank two to the head karma

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Toll Roads, Texas 85 MPH Highway

The opening of a new toll road between Austin and San Antonio with an 85 mph speed limit is discussed. The technical aspects of the tolling system, which uses cameras and mail-in billing rather than traditional toll booths, are explained.

texas· toll roads· speed limits· austin· san antonio

1:28:57 Well, is that I do the yes good. No, that's good. That's kind of good isn't it? You can take that to the bank You've got Carmen. Right, so his 8401 donation is eight plus four plus zero plus one is 1384 dot a one equals 33 and it makes so much sense that's how we do it. I love the numerologies that we have listening to our show Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina home of the Republican or Democrat Convention I guess 69! 69 dudes! Our first of the 69-69s for this week. We only have three, so it's starting to just fade off again. Allen Schaff in St Paul Minnesota 69-69 a little schwozzle enough getting laid Karma. Uh... we need a schwozzle enough jingle I'm gonna find something. You've got karma. Craig Ward in Blackpool!

1:29:52 UK 6969 hey Adam and John it's Craig from Blackpool I've always wanted to go to the amusement park there. It's one of the oldest still operating amusement parks in the world Yeah, this place I'm sure it's photogenic because it's good funky The town is funky around the amusement park currently backpacking around Australia Chris They won't be able to go with Craig here get a kick out of JCD trying to pronounce the town I'm in bit about a bit about a Queensland A-bada-bad? Badadaba. Badadabah, badabadabah... A simple one for AC just requesting some job karma for this perfect design engineering role at a very prestigious shopping center management company in Sydney hope the insight and analysis you gave the slaves or he loves it did you get to say 69 dudes sorry yeah sorry yes um karma

1:30:51 You've got karma. Sorry, something is... And that closes our 6969 segment Oh so we wind it up? 69! 69 dudes! Alan Martin 59 99 He needs some new job at Karma starting a new LAN admin for a price water house of some sort Alan Martin, Alan Martin brand in Florida Please pay a plas-a-at a penny a penny oh yeah a penny so you get 60 You've got karma. Well that's good. Given how the Bears looked this season, the motto will be whatever the winning score is has to offer some consolation that the greater good of no agenda will be supported even as the bears keep getting blown out you know nobody but him and I understand what we're talking about here except for you or cares actually if i think if you do except you now that you hate sports Now that I've made the transition from boner to donor can I get some huntsman shut up slave de-douching karma

1:32:10 Not drunk but would like this to be read in his drunk, too bad, too late Skype is broken chipmunk voice. Okay. Bill Bares So Huntsman shut up What is it slave huntsman shut up slave deducing? Okay, top with honey out yet you could change You've been deep do sorry You've got karma. I added an extra one in there. He gave him a bonus of a douche de douche de douching Yeah, a douche de douche Anyway, sorry about that. Mark Fusco in San Antonio Texas down the road up the road from you 50 bucks belated happy birthday to Adam and today's his birthday celebrating Sunday night with some friends and wine of course no karma or anything else just need a mention of 1-337-WINE dot com 1 3371 dot com check that out too Hey did you know that the fastest highway in the United States where the speed limit is 85 miles per hour

1:33:09 It's a toll road in Texas. It's between Austin and San Antonio, that's right. A toll road? Yes it is. Which means you're doing 85 and then you gotta stop there No, sorry you should come to Texas we have Readers so you can just keep going. Oh So anyone not that doesn't live in Texas and hasn't bought a reader from the no no Sorry stop douchebag from California. No it takes a picture and they'll send it to your house Yeah with a bill yeah with a bill yeah It's like and you get a bill

1:33:44 You don't have to prepay anything. They send the bill to your house, literally for like 99 cents or whatever and you send off your check. 99 cents? Yes! It's very sophisticated. It is not 99 cents I can assure you. It is 99 cents The spending away young. It's nice just to get on the toll road from Austin to San Antonio and drive 85 miles an hour? No, I think at the total distance you may be like $399 for the whole trip probably. That is probably worse. But yes, you don't have to slow down all these things see... You know what your stereotyping Freeway should be free. Gert Van Tripp, Parts Unknown $50 in finance. Hirt from Tribe. Yeah thank you. Hirt and Bernie Atima. Unfortunately I've corrected myself so many times on Bernie's name i can never pronounce it a hint in Iowa 50 bucks that'll be it for today's show 442 which is a little thin hopefully people pick up the pace as they get back and maybe catch up to the shows

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, No Agenda Roundtable

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for producers Barry Hanna, Jesse Cruz, and Jeroen Huttinga (Sir Knight Geronimus). Each individual contributed $1,000 or more to support the podcast's value-for-value model.

knighthood· barry hanna· jesse cruz· jeroen huttinga· donations

1:34:50 You know, before it's too late. Anyway... You know what is kind of sad? Is that people who are 12 episodes behind they don't know that we're actually starving and by the time they catch up We could be dead! We'd be like skeletons in a desert. We could be those cow heads in the desert Next to a cactus Well, we're just gonna presume this was off because of the vacation week But we do want you to remember Devorac.org slash N A And we really are still doing the work. I mean, I think we're really going all out Can you imagine having to watch all the crap that we watch? You know and then with the annoyance that now that C-SPAN is going commercial and what are we gonna have left

1:35:34 There'll be no stations left for me to watch. I don't know what we're gonna do. Yeah, anyway let's get to the birthdays. Another service here Noah Jenner. We love doing it free of charge. Jeroen Houtenka congratulates himself he is celebrating on 9-11 coming up And lots of people will be celebrating with him. Michael McPhee congratulates his daughter Amanda, she won a Nintendo 3DS for her 18th birthday which is today Guess what Amanda? You got a shout out on the No Agenda Show Ain't that great! It's the gift that keeps on giving And Mark Fusco congratulates himself celebrating yesterday Happy Birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in The Universe!

1:36:15 And we've got some people who have caught up and are becoming knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, John. Which is really nice! There's quite a few here... Yeah we got three today so it'll be good- I didn't ask you to pull out the blade yet. Put it back. Okay, you ready? What? Pull out your blade. Okay. You gotta wait until I tell ya how to do it. Barry Hannah! and Yaron Huttinkha, please step forward. Gentlemen so nice to welcome you into the exclusive club known as the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable each of us supported the best podcast in universe in an amount of $1,000 or more So your rings are on the way gents thank you so much And I hereby pronounce thee Sir Barry Sir Jesse

1:36:59 And Sir Knight Geronimus, all knights of the Noah-Jenner Round Table. Your hookers and blow red poison chardonnay hot pants and booze and wenches and beer are right here for you! Thank you once again... For without you we probably would have been a long long time ago. There's proof. We've got a jingle that says it yep can't be wrong jingles are never wrong, okay? I haven't asked Jingles are always right you mean don't throw the negative on it And by the way for those of you who keep emailing me about how doll we have a lot of people in the

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Smoking Cessation, Highball Cocktails

A personal update on quitting smoking leads to a discussion on the chemical triggers for nicotine cravings, such as stomach acidity from alcohol. The hosts explore the definition of a "highball" cocktail, referencing various recipes including Scotch and soda and the Moscow Mule.

smoking· nicotine· haldol· highball· cocktails

1:37:38 medical field we have a lot of people in the emergency services field who have access to this could you please send me some I want to try this now everyone's like did you see the thing willow C ran into the Italian version of the disclaimers or the country indications and it one of them was sudden death who Willow did Yeah, you got the letter. No I didn't see that! She says sudden death. She translated the Italian although... They left it off in the American version. Really? I didn't see that sudden death. Well, you know i'll do it after a show so you know at least should be able to have time to do it after showing up no but i'll do it after a sunday show let's do it near the end of this show right take it near the end of i want to do i love you like tongue is going like that according to chad uh who you know runs ems there and in denver

1:38:35 He has it as a part of his chemical restraint pack. They have to restrain a lot of people apparently, he says it reduces your entire capability as a human resource down to about 10% capacity So, uh... Notch on your ass. Yeah so send me some I want to try this! Now that i'm not smoking and I have a question two questions so first do you notice the difference in me now that I am not smoking? Do I seem more edged more irritated No. No difference at all? I didn't see any difference when he stopped smoking dope Right but so the dope was easier to quit obviously

1:39:14 The weed was like, you know just like I'm not feeling anymore And I don't care and and I'm around it and like whatever. You know, actually they kind of smell skunky now I don't I'm not even really interested in it but the cigarettes now we're on day 10 and Day ten is a little harder than day one through three for some reason why? I don't know what it is. It's not... You really want a cigarette, don't you? No no no it's not that... Do you know that they discovered long time ago drinking makes you wanna have a cigarette. It's the acidity in the stomach and they found you can contradict the effect of drinking like especially liquor by having Tums if you deacidify the stomach right there did the desire for tobacco lessens

1:40:06 It's not that you know what it is. I am NOT a doctor Oh, oh made the oh well stupid me. I always take your medical advice No, it's sir its situations so You know sitting outside Having because you know we wouldn't smoke in the house would sit outside. She was sitting outside You're like wow I'd love to smoke after dinner and have to say he's kind of one of those one those moments and just slam a few highballs instead The number The number one place where I miss it is during the show. And I have been smoking... Same advice! Slam a few highballs? Yeah, during the show. No, no, I would like to try some Haldol instead of... Instead of kill the show, I think a few high balls would be cool

1:40:54 highball what is the what are the ingredients of a high ball I can't remember what is that I can't read I just like saying it obviously highball in great eyeball this very famous drink isn't there like a Frank Sinatra type drink kind of a highball old-fashioned cocktail it's a here we go look up in The Book of Knowledge It's composed to see it's a... Oh, ginger ale! Right. Just the common highball of scotch whiskey and carbonated water which is also called Scotch and soda right well I like that family of mixtures let's see what else I thought a high ball was more to it than that. It says ginger ale is the classic highball. Okay, ginger ale. Ginger Ale I'll try that, that sounds kind of good.

1:41:54 Canadian whiskey and ginger ale, that should be tasty. A dulled dolphin? A gin and tonic they consider to be a highball by this century That's not...that's not a high ball, thats a gin and tonic No it is a gin and tonic To me a high ball has to have scotch or bourbon but scotch Micky will make one of these for me A Moscow mule I think i've had a Moscow mule So 7 & 7 is basically a High Ball I'm not buying this. A Moscow Mule is a buck or a mule cocktail, vodka ginger beer...I've had the Moscow Mule and I kind of like that with the ginger beer. Vodka, ginger beer and lime served in a copper mug? What's the point of that to create some electricity or something? It's probably toxic! You can use it as a battery if you're a rebel in Syria

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Seattle Hum Mystery, Midshipman Fish

Residents of West Seattle have reported a mysterious low-frequency hum keeping them awake. While some suggest industrial machinery or a "motorized Stargate," marine biologists from the University of Washington attribute the sound to the mating calls of the midshipman fish.

seattle· west seattle hum· midshipman fish· marine biology· stargate

1:42:47 It just floats in the copper mug. Alright, here's another question for you John C. Dvorak You sometimes are up there in the region of Washington and you've been to Seattle correct? Oh yes Have you been to Seattle recently? Well yeah I guess but it's not kind of recently because I haven't been roaming around the city if that is what your wondering Well because there is a mystery afoot in Seattle A foot?! No its not a foot but there is a mystery afoot And it is a sound, and I'm going to play this sound for you because we have it captured. And I want you to tell me if you can identify this sound which has been mystifying residents of Seattle for weeks. Are you ready? Here comes the ambient recording.

1:43:57 Now can you recognize this sound? You hear the sound, right? Sounds like a motor. It sounds like an airplane flying over it sounds like a motorcycle What is so weird about this sound well because it is a sound that is emanating all throughout Western Seattle and no one knows the origin of this sound let me play a little more. I think could be a very high powerful motor boat out there and they're going to... Sound's like a boat. A speedboat Now I personally believe it is the sound of the Stargate opening, but listen. You can laugh! Is this a stretch? No... Why does it make noise when it opens? Kind of g- was in the gears? The motor?! The old motor finally turned on My Stargate has an engine. No this actually- Is there Stargate IN THE WATER??

1:44:47 Because if it is you know what's coming through the other side I'm glad you mentioned that because it actually Is the sound of horny fish John? Where the Duwamish just starts to run upstream because people have been hearing this all over West Seattle doesn't matter which side of the hilltop You're living on they've been reporting hearing this thing so there's been a lot of guessing There's been a lot of theories even some finger-pointing well tonight. We We turned to science to finally try and get some answers. Now that's your clue when they say they're turning the science you know, The bullshit is coming really hard! In case you missed this sound it's been keeping West Seattle awake listen

1:45:31 That low frequency hum has had people wondering just what is it? There are plenty of theories. It definitely sounds like, it sounds like grinding or machinery and its not natural no I'm so sad they didn't interview me because I would have said dude its the motorized Stargate obviously Or is it Could it be the sound of this ugly creature looking for love? Marine biologists say yes. It very well could be the call of the midshipman fish Here's the mystery sound again Now here is the mating call of the midshipmen I love this part of the report because they don't sound anything alike They don't sound anything like that! Anything, but science will prove it to us

1:46:17 But we wanted proof. You want to just take the whole thing? Yeah, let's just take the whole thing. So we turned to Professor Joe Cisneros of The University Of Washington and grad student Ashwin Bhandiwad. See if we can get some fish We headed down to the banks for the Duwamish I'm going cast it out pretty far as far as i can where the pair sent an underwater microphone into the water listening for the distinct sound of the midshipman but there is a difference between an underwater mic and sound traveling miles over land Could it really be the fish? Yes, they say. Oh sure! Yeah it's pretty incredible and normally you wouldn't hear it but once you put something like a boat in the water It'll resonate and carry really far The mating calls reach a peak in the middle of night so the pair will be out late hoping to solve the mystery So there ya go John, it is not a motorized stargate. It's almost like a cat in heat Exactly In the water...it is not a motorized stargate which clearly it is

1:47:16 It is a horny fish who is groaning against the hull of a ship. How can the people of Seattle buy this crap? Meanwhile, there's some illegal activity taking place as they're drilling or God knows what—this would be my theory—on some boat offshore and they want to do it at night And people are bitching so they can't with this cock and bull story. Let me just tell you, those of you who are on board for the Mothership boarding pass your purchase is not in vain my friends it is not in vain when they start rolling out this bull crap science on ya something's going on lock me up okay I got one that you can lock me up well I ran into what I thought was the weirdest commercial ever

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Dish Network vs DirecTV, Con Job Commercial

Dish Network has released an aggressive commercial calling DirecTV a "con job" regarding their sports package pricing. The hosts discuss the rising costs of cable and internet services, which can reach $240 per month.

dish network· directv· advertising· cable bills· con job

1:48:10 And I don't even know if it's been pulled or they're gonna take it off the air. But this is a commercial that, that is the Dish Network calling out DirecTV and they normally do this to each other about you know usually about one price or another but I have never heard a commercial like this...I don't even know if its legal I have no before we play this. I have seen them say like breaking bad not on dish Network I've seen that is that what the right now? This is worse, okay? You're attractive you storm did charge of folks hundreds of dollars just to watch football on Sundays would pay for that I got dish and I see games every week Direct TV's a bunch of cars Roger gone job. Oh God dirty cons it's a real-only

1:48:58 old-fashioned con job! I think is liable. I thought he was saying cron job at first. No, con job, con job and they have a little kid yelling it they go from person to person all yelling con jobs you know we need the clip get a better version of that i'd like to just use the con job thing just by itself as kind of good but I swear I thought I thought I first thought I said cron job I'm like really got a cron job running or something

1:49:40 But ConJob just as a loose thing. Well, you know what it I'll tell the original I'll take and just piece con job conjab conjab together won't have anything to do with anything I am so close to Just is there way from besides the internet? Is there any other can I get C-SPAN with just basic cable? Is there any way to get that, because I don't need any of this crap. My bill John with internet is $240 a month! That's a scam it's a con job! It's a con job but and i don't even have sports packages You don't like sports... I don't watch any sports and I'm I don't understand where the portions are so small

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Kelsey Grammer, Boss TV Series Review

The Starz series "Boss" is reviewed, with high praise for Kelsey Grammer's lead performance but criticism for the supporting cast's acting abilities. The hosts also complain about the technical failures of "on-demand" cable interfaces.

kelsey grammer· boss· starz· acting· television

1:50:30 And last night, okay so we watched and by the way they changed the interface again on Time Warner. And now you can't find anything! Mickey's like mad at me she's like I can't find the movies i'm like I couldn't find them on the last interface And we literally go to Roku, Amazon Prime. You get the movies for free as part of your prime package I'm so done with this We have a bunch of listeners out there who are experts in satellite technology I don't care! I am not interested in watching any of it There's no movie that is interesting... No but you watch C-SPAN on the computer Yeah I guess I can just watch it on streams

1:51:13 Maybe, you know what? I think what I'm going to do. Here's my final solution Because I really wish that C-SPAN was on Roku with just their streams. Then it would be done, I'd cut the whole thing out We ordered... we were watching Boss you know the show Boss? Yeah which I've never watched, didn't watch the first season or whatever and I very good show Just got into it recently and I have to say Kelsey Grammer Here's what it might take before you say anything then you can tell me where I'm wrong because you probably seen more than I have I think Kelsey Grammer is a terrific actor who should win an Emmy for this role and his supporting cast can't act.

1:51:51 It's some of the worst acting I've ever seen. It's so funny you say that because when you have those two, we're actually... Because we do dialogue when something is really bad and then the girl says what's wrong? And then I'll reply well you really suck at acting oh okay yeah and that was during last night show who were watching Kelsey Grammer is great there are one or two I like The Nose Girl You know the the political girl who just went to the other side yeah, no she's okay. She does her if you see her in season one Because you haven't even seen season one she I mean she just she is Having sex with this guy and it's really sexy. I mean and she gets pretty naked in that show It's a no. No she's you got to see your screwing in that show oh

1:52:41 But you have to watch season one. So I think actually boss was did win an Emmy Well, I know I'm saying grammar Kelsey the Kelsey grammar when the Emmy He should win an Emmy for best actor he's really good at this but the problem is the supporting cast Really bad yeah and well Mario van Peebles is involved And yet think he directs a couple and I'm not a big fan of his Kelsey Graham oh we want he won a Golden Globe for Boss, but I think he's been shut out of the Emmys. Not even nominated so anyway... But this is a fantastic show and we had to purchase Starz Network or whatever just to watch the show on demand which is another con job, cron job And um.. So were watching it on my $250 a month cable thing and it keeps stopping and crapping out!

1:53:37 Because of the great new interface or whatever. You have to start it up again and then it goes back two minutes, so it's like... It's a biggest piece of...it's a cron job! Crap! Total crap. And for what? It's like, meh. It's not all that great a show. No, it's not. I like and enjoy it. It's a very enjoyable show but mostly... But the distracting bad acting although I have to say you do have a clip Of Boss No, I don't have a clip of Boss but I have another. I didn't realize because I never watched the show but I just caught this little clip on two broke girls. Oh you know is that what you're watching again? no i was flipping around and I just happened to nail this clip with anti-post office propaganda right in the middle of this crappy show and there's a blonde and brunette they are broke thats why they call it 2 Broke Girls

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Two Broke Girls, USPS vs FedEx Pricing

A clip from the sitcom "Two Broke Girls" is used to highlight anti-post office propaganda in media. The hosts compare the actual costs of overnight shipping, noting that the United States Postal Service is significantly cheaper than private carriers like FedEx.

usps· fedex· two broke girls· shipping· post office

1:54:32 The acting in this show is unbelievably bad and this brunette woman who I guess is a, I don't know who she is terrible. She can barely deliver a line it's just flat but I just wanted to play the anti-post off of propaganda which has just galled me to no end. I didn't know there was a cupcake check in your purse! It just got mixed in anyway who still sends important stuff through the mail these days what are we pioneers? No... and we need to keep track of every penny. Laugh Track! I have, with my daughter's passport woes... ...I've been sending a lot of stuff overnight to Los Angeles And you know for awhile there i was like I'll just FedEx it You know I go down the FedEx Do you want an overnight FedEx cost versus the United States Postal Service? Yeah and get used to it The Fedex is like $60

1:55:28 It used to be 12. It used to be 8 when they started FedEx for an overnight letter Yeah, now I'm literally and the girl who's very nice she was now she's like hey Adam you back or your daughter something? No it still on passport And then should we think you're gonna hate me as well not gonna hate you specifically but yeah i mean i hate this freaking cron job and uh... and then it's like a sixty dollars for an overnight delivery and but isn't is not even before 10 am just like anytime And the United States Postal Service, they'll do it for I think it's 17? Maybe less. It's less than that. Overnight overnight just straight overnight yeah maybe half the price Less than half the price Yeah and if you just do regular first class it will be there in two days! And I believe you can just stick this in your mailbox cant'you and the guy will just pick it up out of the mailbox You could yeah If he has the right fees on it sure

1:56:23 I mean, it's just nuts. Yeah get used to it because that is what its all about. That's just another thing. Get used to it people! You're going to get screwed over and you can thank your federal government and congress for setting this thing up 75 years of pre-paid retirement benefits health benefits they had to do thats why their losing there ass And uh... It's a scam And it's a cron job, and it's an anti-constitutional scam. Because the post office and its workings are listed very clearly. But you know what?

1:57:05 Just let that go because once they like it, you know look just whatever. Whatever you know what? Yeah if there's if you want to get the kind of scams that I liked we really follow more on this show than the Post Office being screwed over by our own government is...I think this was a good report It was on Bloomberg recently and I think it kind of says it all about the relationship between government and corporations Oh yes, I got it. I got it. Coming in at number 8 let's look at General Electric shares that just about 1% the world largest maker of jet engines won the biggest Pentagon contract in August as a total value military awards fell 40 percent from the previous month GE topped the list more than 380 contracts announced by the Defense Department with a combined potential value get this 26 and half billion

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

General Electric, Pentagon Contracts and China

General Electric (GE) received $26.5 billion in Pentagon contracts in August. The discussion highlights the close relationship between GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt and the Obama administration, as well as GE's move to relocate its x-ray division to China.

general electric· jeffrey immelt· pentagon· defense contracts· china

1:56:23 I mean, it's just nuts. Yeah get used to it because that is what its all about. That's just another thing. Get used to it people! You're going to get screwed over and you can thank your federal government and congress for setting this thing up 75 years of pre-paid retirement benefits health benefits they had to do thats why their losing there ass And uh... It's a scam And it's a cron job, and it's an anti-constitutional scam. Because the post office and its workings are listed very clearly. But you know what?

1:57:05 Just let that go because once they like it, you know look just whatever. Whatever you know what? Yeah if there's if you want to get the kind of scams that I liked we really follow more on this show than the Post Office being screwed over by our own government is...I think this was a good report It was on Bloomberg recently and I think it kind of says it all about the relationship between government and corporations Oh yes, I got it. I got it. Coming in at number 8 let's look at General Electric shares that just about 1% the world largest maker of jet engines won the biggest Pentagon contract in August as a total value military awards fell 40 percent from the previous month GE topped the list more than 380 contracts announced by the Defense Department with a combined potential value get this 26 and half billion

1:57:53 Before you say anything, John. Let me just see let me just go to the book of knowledge and look at Jeffrey R Immelt. Let me just see he is selected by GE's board of directors to replace Jack Welch following his retirement then he became the president and CEO Let me see, is there anything... Oh let me see. Yes. In February 2009 Imeldt was appointed as a member of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board Oh, and on January 21st 2011 President Obama announced Immelt's appointment as chairman of his outside panel of economic advisors succeeding former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker. Wow! And this... let's see.... wow this is very interesting in July Immelt's 2011 General Electric

1:58:53 announced that it's in the process of relocating its x-ray division from Wisconsin to China. Huh, and now all of a sudden he gets a really really big... Do you think that there is any kind of collusion there John about his like sleeping with the president? Conflicts of interest maybe you think that there was any question on Bloomberg about this or was just no No, it is number eight on their hot list of great trades. Yeah. Yeah great traders You mean yeah? Whatever anyway China China and he's a Chinese to the China. Yeah That's great 27 billion dollars and most of the work is going out to China right yes That's the joke of it. Yeah um

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

FEMA Zombie Awareness Webinar

FEMA and the CDC have launched a "Zombie Awareness" webinar series as a tool for disaster preparedness. The government uses the zombie theme to generate low-cost publicity and engage the public in general emergency planning.

fema· cdc· zombie apocalypse· webinars· disaster preparedness

1:59:42 Webinars. Let's talk webinars because you missed it. I bring this up because i think you hate webinars. Webinars! I love webinars, I love the word webinar What is inherently wrong with a webinar? It's dumb So all of a sudden, I don't know. People start... But one thing is it's not a true seminar because it was supposed to be a seminar over the web It's a webinar get it? So what is the seminar then what happens in seminars like you get about five or six people together with someone who's very knowledgeable and you sit and he presents information you converse about it as a college that's a functionary system within a college structure university structure where you can take a regular course we can take a seminar

2:00:30 You know, people are really interested in something and it's done for educational purposes. Webinars for educational purpose is usually to sell something and it's like infinite numbers of people. It's more like a lecture than anything else because there's no real...it's not the kind of interaction you would have at a true seminar where you're pretty much got the guy right in front of you asking him stuff. So I could go on yeah, no you could but that would be boring. So there's already boring I got a lot of you probably saw this message and I didn't understand it at first I'm like why are people sending me messages from the past? because in 2011 the CDC released that zombie apocalypse thing

2:01:16 Remember that? They have the prepare for the zombie apocalypse. Yeah, the zombies are coming. Yeah and it was so hilarious but that was 2011 And we discussed it on the show and how ridiculous it is. And, you know, is it really ridiculous? And maybe, you know, ha-ha-ha but there really is a zombie apocalypse and all of a sudden this shows up in the news again! Did you not get this did you not get emails from people and tweets saying zombie apocalypse the government's expecting a zombie apocalypse?! You didn't see that? No I got a lot of it and if you just google it you'll see like one day ago two days... days ago government ready for zombie apocalypse now what the hell is going on

2:01:54 Turns out it was a webinar. And I have a recording of the webinar! Good afternoon everybody and welcome to FEMA's Community Preparedness. webinar series. Don't you love it? Welcome to FEMA's preparedness webinars, a series of webinars John, this is your ultimate nightmare It's a webinar that never goes away. Welcome to the September monthly FEMA update where our topic is zombie awareness Is our government out-of-control This is unbelievable The whole thing is unbelievable I mean I have more of it but I know... effective practices in promoting disaster preparedness

2:02:36 A few technical considerations before we get started. Please make sure your computer speaker volume is turned up so you can hear the proceedings efficiently. This is how you take notes, John in case you're ever involved in a webinar and it's part of the government because if you are part of the government apparently you're an idiot! So make sure your speakers turned out. This webinar is free and open to the public. It is also being recorded Within 48 hours, we will be posting a link to the recording as well as the presentations on Citizen Corps' website. If you look directly to your left in the chat box... I can't even play more although i should What is this about? It's about the zombie webinar! The zombie webinar?! This is crazy! ...or after disaster and to inject a little levity into preparedness while still informing educating people

2:03:35 It's also a great way to grab attention and increase interest in general preparedness. The CDC zombie campaign, which you'll hear about in just a moment has been able to generate an enormous amount of publicity at very low cost." Bad publicity? Yeah! No they think it's great! See they think its awesome This is why they have the whole webinar To teach you how to use zombies to promote other stuff That's what the whole uh...webinar is about But just check the chat box You'l learn more over there I know, I know. You give me crap about watching two broke girls Something really really interesting happened particularly in light of what we were talking about with the TSA testing your drinks Yes Which was? Did we do our thank our artists for last show? Oh gee I'm sorry John you're so right I forgot to thank Martin JJ

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

TSA Retaliation, Passenger Drink Testing

A passenger was detained by the TSA after refusing to let agents test her drink. A secret recording of the encounter reveals a TSA agent admitting that the detention was "retaliatory" due to the passenger's attitude rather than a specific security threat.

tsa· airport security· civil liberties· police state· retaliation

2:04:37 Thank you for reminding me. So your advice was if the TSA comes up and wants to test my drink, then you just like... You pretend like you were shocked and you drop the drink and you throw it. Right? And then you throw the drink on the ground Jesus that what it was yeah, something like that. That was your advice You have to jump you got a gentleman here like you're scared you get a jump and then the drink goes flying right? Hopefully on their pants so there was a passenger and she refused To let the TSA test her drink and guess what happened they threw in jail well they They detained her as she was not allowed to get on the flight

2:05:21 And so she said, I'll teach the woman a lesson. So here's what's interesting you have to listen closely it's because she was recording with her phone video but it is kind of like underneath their jacket so its little rustly She recorded the TSA agents and you can see them actually in this shot answering questions why did you do this? Why did you detain me for not letting Test my drink. Do you think that I'm honestly a threat? So she's saying, do you think I'm really a threat? Do you think that? No no but with your attitude... Let me get this straight This is retaliatory for my attitude This is not making the airwaves safer It's retaliatory

2:06:05 So, okay. Because it was hard to hear for you she says why did you do this? They say because of your attitude and then she says wait a minute so this is retaliatory because I'm because of my attitude and the TSA agent says yeah that's pretty much it oh I love it that's a police state at work yes so there you go shut up! You've got an attitude and if you have an attitude well then we're just gonna retaliate That's what we do in a police state. Have you seen this on the evening news? Because I think it should be on the evening news, It should be on every news. And the FBI now says that they are very not just close to...I guess they're ready to start implementing their facial, their $1 billion dollar facial recognition system and wear a hat no draw a third eye that was the third eye right in the middle of your forehead underneath one

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

FBI Facial Recognition, Social Media Integration

The FBI is implementing a $1 billion facial recognition system that integrates with social networking sites and public surveillance cameras. Unlike traditional mugshot databases, this system uses APIs to query photos from platforms like Facebook to identify individuals.

fbi· facial recognition· facebook· privacy· biometric data

2:07:15 I think the one- I agree. Well, the hats are not allowed everywhere You're not there's a lot of stores. We're not allowed to wear the hat But I think the third eye is just in general Just when you get up in the morning, if you just yeah we should have them we should have no agenda third-eye stickers It just like a little sticker just a sticker just plop that looks just like an eyeball The artist out there we just have a take a photo someone's eyeball Stick next stickers and then stick him all over your face has to be really creepy it has to be a decal Even better, why not have it of like an eyeball? Like Valerie Jarrett's eyeball. That would really confuse the camera. Yeah So there was a hearing which I did not see on C-SPAN

2:08:05 Department of Justice, but they did and you know how they always enter the the written state written testimony this apparently happened July 18th and The title of this is what facial recognition technology means for privacy in civil liberties. It's not very long it's it's only about five pages or so But you really should take a look at it Of course that isn't the show notes 442 dot any show notes calm? but the key wording in this is that the FBI is integrated with public databases as well as social networks. Here it is. Oh yeah, Sochi, huh? That's a shocker to listeners of our show! They literally say its social networks... Let me get you the exact language

2:08:53 Here it is, the facial recognition pilot provides a search of the national repository of photos consisting of criminal mugshots which were taken at the time of a criminal booking. Only criminal mugshot photos are used to populate the national repository. Query photos and photos obtained from social networking sites surveillance cameras and similar sources will be used although they do not populate the national repository So they, so instead of populating their own database they just connect through the API. And you know Facebook has facial recognition they're using it now when you sign up to Facebook I think you can do with a current account You can say find other pictures with my face in it Yeah and it will actually find a few Yeah! A few...a few

2:09:45 They'll find a lot. Won't find too many, I try to avoid all those things So i was in Portugal couple years ago and there was a trade show that went on and then there was another trade show next to the trade show that I was at And the other trade show which is what I'm more interested in it was police It's a police trade show showing all kinds of fancy new things for cops in Europe Oh they had facial recognition stuff Here's what's cool when you go to these trade shows. They had facial recognition a facial recognition Recognition system that The vendor was there and he and I was like yeah scenario So I talked chatted with him as best I could And I said this is thing actually works Yeah You can test it and so I got this stay on this thing for like in-and-out it in out of it or not because I'm saying This can be tricked

2:10:39 And so I'm going through grimacing. I'm having it you look at me with this big smile with my glasses on upside down I'm doing everything I can and did it work that you trick it no It's very disappointing, but of course this was a close-in thing It was like you know here You put your face here looks at you see is that this you? This is different than you know random cameras on the top of telephone poles but Because I was going in and out, I think to this day even though I didn't spend as much time as i'd like to. Even though I spent a lot of time...I think it can be tricked! I just never could trick it I'm not sure what the algorithm was. I would just have to go through it more. But anyway, out there who goes to these shows going and find a guy and see if you can trick him? Well here's an easy way maybe so the third eye decal i think is still excellent idea that's just being... You get up in the morning, you put on your shoes, you put on your pants, you put on your shirt, you put on your decal! That's just gonna be a part of life

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Portugal Austerity, European Populism Summit

Portugal has announced new austerity measures, including a significant increase in social security contributions. Meanwhile, European leaders Mario Monti and Herman Van Rompuy are proposing a summit to confront "divisive populism," which they view as a threat to Eurozone integration.

portugal· austerity· mario monti· eurozone· populism

2:11:40 We can try that and see if you upload a picture of you with the third eye decal, Facebook can find it. It's the same algorithm I'm sure it's the same system Yeah So we should try that! I'll try it You don't have a Facebook? I have a Facebook I'll try it Oh speaking of Portugal John Portugal's tough new austerity measures have been widely criticized as an attack on workers. The government announced a raft of changes, including an increase in social security contributions from 11 to 18 percent which roughly equates to one month salary This newspaper kiosk owner described the move is unfair for the working classes So they're rolling out more austerity? A months worth of austerity How about that huh

2:12:29 A month. What does that even mean? A month. A months worth of wages because they're... Are you going to screw people out of a months worth of wages? Yeah, the equivalent of by... This is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing Oh boy! Please don't get into this I'm not gonna get into it, I'm just saying It's just the opposite of what we should be doing How do expect them jump start their economy when you take peoples money where there nothing to spend Well theres something... How does that work? Can somebody explain it to me We got..we are not gonna buy anything were totally austere And that's gonna do what? That's gonna make businesses want to open. I don't get it! Well, it's... It's to shut the slaves up isn't it? Yeah, starve them out Look we're going to starve you out if you don't shut up and do as we say So something very interesting and there was no audio or video of it unfortunately but Herman Van Roompoy the unelected president of Europe An Italian premier or premiere as you wish Monty, Super Mario Monty

2:13:27 They are proposing a special European summit, and listen very carefully because this is really bad what's happening. To confront the growing populism in Europe. Quote we are in a dangerous phase Monty said on the sidelines of Ambrosetti Forum at Lake Como He said a divisive populism is present in nearly all Eurozone countries and that it aims to divide nations at the moment when the impetus is for greater integration to help safeguard the euro currency and restore health to the EU's economy. Now what does he say?

2:14:06 He's saying that the Golden Dawn party, the PVV in the Netherlands, you know, the Le Pens party in France. What he is saying is these people are Nazis and we have to stop them instead of allowing democracy to prevail by, and there's that word again. They're stereotyping people who disagree with the government as populists which is now code word for racist and Nazi they're saying or far right wing that they are populous and they have to be stopped And now they're going to do this at a European level This is very very dangerous situation This is good for the show Well it's outstanding for the show

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Populism Redefined, Euro-Skepticism Labeling

The term "populist" is being redefined by European elites and media as a pejorative code word for racists, Nazis, and Euro-skeptics. This linguistic shift is seen as a way to delegitimize democratic movements that oppose the current fascist regime of the European Union.

populism· geert wilders· marine le pen· eurozone· political discourse

2:14:52 This is great! But isn't that amazing? If they're doing, if this is identified as a trend and it's floating around enough so that they're going to do a meeting about it. It must be a hell of a trend that has got them scared. Of course but you know if you read the media And we do this. It's always Geert Wilders, the populist politician. It is Marie Le Pen the populist. It's all populous and populous is now becoming code. You're right exactly code. In fact let's if we just do a quick populists by itself. Let me see what pops up. The Wikipedia says popular populism

2:15:38 has been viewed as a political ideology or as a type of discourse. Generally, populists tend to claim that they side with the people against the elites while much of the 20th century populism was considered to be a political phenomenon mostly affecting Latin America. Interesting! Since 1980s populous movements and parties have enjoyed degrees of success in established democracies such as USA Canada Italy The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries Academics and scholarly definitions of populism have varied widely over the past decades, and the term has often been employed in loose and consistent ways to denote appeals to the people. Demagogy... Is that what I say? Demagogy? It's demagoji. Demagoji, Tamagotchi, and catch-all politics. Hmm

2:16:36 They're trying to do this equation with it. I did populist Europe and i got the Green European Foundation's book, Populism in Europe German translation now available. The rise of the populous right and why it matters. The rise of white right-wing parties in a number of European countries for most reasons is that true Finns Finland. Examples in Hungary, Sweden France and elsewhere where the book acknowledges sometimes crucial differences can exist between these individual parties it's also true they share many attributes these include focusing of their grievances on minorities railing against the so-called elites and always a high level of euro skepticism. Sounds like us! So yeah well I'm looking at a report from 2010 on our national treasure NPR

2:17:33 February 5th. And by the way, the Green Movement considers this a challenge to them personally. Well now they're just... I think that's been.. They're just trying to hijack it here. February 5 2010 NPR there has been a lot of chatter about populism lately The Populist Tea Party movement kicked off its first convention Thursday evening in Nashville and the Occupy is not populist? Uh....I don't know. I think well first of all populists the way I've understood the use of the word is pandering to the people. Because that's kind of the way that Geert Wilders, they're saying well he just pandering to people who hate Muslims you know well that's kind of politics right? Isn't it democracy if a whole bunch of people want to change something then you know then the majority votes kind of get to decide so if you're then because you're on the side of majority than your populist

2:18:31 It's but it's becoming code populist is now becoming code for nut job climate denier Nazi Holocaust denier Children killer all of this stuff. Yeah, that's what you do So you hijack the term and then you redefine it and then you start hounding people with it Until they because they don't know what everyone know what their spend all the time defending themselves against the redefinition instead of actually doing anything That's a great technique And so anyway, so they're going to have a European summit to confront growing populism. Which includes all these popular these but they're going to go after these populist leaders because it's a threat that literally saying here it's a threat to the greater integration of the eurozone to help safeguard the eurocurrency It's a threat. It's a threat to this fascist regime They've thrown together Of course it is

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Barack Obama, Drone Program Kill List

In a CNN interview with Ben Swann, President Barack Obama was questioned about his personal role in approving targets for the drone "kill list." Obama defended the program as a "sacred duty" to keep Americans safe, while refusing to disclose the specific criteria for lethal force.

barack obama· drones· ben swann· al qaeda· lethal force

2:19:26 It must be stopped Yeah Put up with this bullcrap. We were real best all right I have one final Clip well let me do my final thing then yours should probably gonna be lighter than mine Because I just think I want to introduce something new alright, I have just in mind is really depressing Okay you do yours first okay? President Obama after the American hero What's his name? I've just, we've had a few. The American hero... what's his name again? Ben... Ben Bernanke Not Ben Bernanke! Benjamin Franklin No the guy from... Ben Johnson He is Canadian No the guy from Cincinnati who asked the president about those questions about the drones

2:20:24 Oh, that guy. You're the news reporter? Yeah! That guy we had him on the last show I can't remember his name now We know who he is go on Ben Anyway to me He's a real American hero just stands up there with the president and says hey what's up with those drone crap man so CNN sat down with our president and asked him all the hard questions about the drone, about the drone program, about the kill list. And if he even pulls the trigger and I think we need to listen to this and deconstruct his answers you're with me? Go! Ben Swan is his name S-W-A-N-N Ben Swann American hero more hero than Neil Armstrong here we go

2:21:11 My question to you is, do you personally decide who is targeted and what are your criteria if you do for the use of lethal force? Is this a good question? I like it. I think its an outstanding question! Well I've gotta be careful here they're classified issues Oh crap Right off the bat he says they're classified. Why is that even remotely classified? It's just a simple question. Why would the process of targeting the death of people be classified, why do we not have the right to know this?!

2:21:51 And I would point out in 2009 the president passed an executive order where he and he alone can determine at any point in time what is and what is not classified. He can declassify... Right, right. He's hiding behind it. He's hiding behind it and he can sit there right there and say I'm the president I declassified this but he won't answer it. A lot of what you read in the press that purport to be accurate aren't always accurate. Okay, and by the way the press lies you are a liar man What is absolutely true? Is that why when someone says what is absolutely true That means something in NLP world or in doesn't that mean something if if someone says instead of just saying what's true is they say What's absolutely true does that mean yeah some bogus thing go on my first job

2:22:46 My most sacred duty as President, Commander-in-Chief is to keep the American people safe. And what that means is we brought a whole bunch of tools to bear to go after Al Qaeda and those who would attack Americans. Drones are one tool that we use and our criteria for using them is very tight and very strict. It has to be a target that Authorized by our laws. Okay, authorized by our laws are you writing this down John? I just want to make sure we get it authorized by our laws Do we have any laws that authorize killing people apparently we do okay So it's authorized it has to be a threat that is serious and

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

Targeted Killing, Due Process Traditions

The legal justifications for the U.S. drone program are scrutinized, specifically the President's claim that the program adheres to "traditions of rule of law" and "due process." The hosts argue that the lack of transparency and the use of "avoidance" regarding civilian casualties undermines these claims.

due process· rule of law· drones· commander-in-chief· civilian casualties

2:23:36 But some guy in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere Pakistan that's a serious threat and not speculative Oh, not speculative so it can be in a mud hut but I can't just be any old mud huts got to be that mud hut That one. It has to be a situation in which we can't capture the individual before they move forward on some sort of operational plot against the United States and this is an example of where I think there's been some misreporting, our preference is always to... Misreporting second time! You know your press is bogative. I can't tell you how we do it but you're wrong. ...capture if we can because we can gather intelligence

2:24:15 But a lot of the... No, that's bullcrap. Because when you captured Bin Laden you didn't gather intelligence You killed him and dumped him in the sea! This is bullcrap! Terrorist networks that target the United States The most dangerous ones operate in very remote regions And it's very difficult to capture them Okay I just have to stop at the mind control Why are the most dangerous people To the entire United States Why are they in the most remote regions of the world and how is that danger apparent? I'm asking you a question. I am clueless as to why they have to be blowing up mud huts in the middle of nowhere, uh i mean i can assume that they have people on a big list like they said and Obama goes over and it's like that crazy list that doesn't list people that should be on and has other people on there we never heard of but i mean forget about that living in a mud hut so we decided to blow them up maybe just for target practice?

2:25:15 that this is part of the psychological warfare. When the president sits there and says, The biggest threat to the United States is people in mud huts... ...in some of the most remote regions of the world! It's like, honey I'm really worried about the scorpions in Corpus Christi because those are the ones that are going to come all the way from Corpus Christi and sit in your bed and bite you. This is lunacy And we've got to make sure that in whatever operations we conduct, you know, we are very careful about avoiding civilian casualties. Avoiding? In fact there are a whole bunch of situations where we will not engage in operations if we think there's going to be civilian casualties involved I love the words avoid and a whole bunch

2:26:11 It's not every single one, but there is a whole bunch where we're like, oh we might kill some civilians so let's avoid that. Avoidance is not stopping something So... We have an extensive process with a lot of checks A lot eyes looking at it Who? What?! Which eyes? Who? Mr President! Who? Is this just a group of dudes Obviously, as president ultimately I'm responsible for decisions that are made by the administration. But I think what the American people need to know is... Uh-oh, perk up everybody. Here's what you need to know You don't need to know any real truth or any information here's what you need to know The seriousness with which we take both the responsibility keep them safe but also the seriousness with which we take The need for us to abide by

2:27:07 our traditions of rule of law. Our traditions of rule of law? Oh, I'm sorry John! Our traditions of rule of law... that doesn't sound exactly like what he said in the beginning Like it has to adhere to our laws now It's just the tradition Yeah, we have a tradition. Traditions are traditions. It's a tradition and due process. Oh due process. Tradition of due process man. Nowadays it's an old-fashioned idea. It's like you know we used to have a real turkey at Thanksgiving now we just get one from the store. We traditionally eat turkey at Thanksgiving what are we having?

2:27:43 Goose? Evan Goose. Sir, do you personally approve the targets? Very good question! Do you personally approve the targets which is the same question as the first question but okay. Hey yo I can't get too deeply into how these things work You Mr President are a fucking pussy Sorry, that made me angry. And by the way it was interesting during the convention how often they had to keep talking about what a great backbone he had Why did I'm sorry? I just got really angry there if you're going to kill people at least have the balls to say it Say yeah, that's why I said yeah, yeah The buck stops here. Yeah, somebody gets killed by a drone. I signed off signed off He's a pussy up. Yes pretty wimpy

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

9/11 Responsibility, Conflicting Government Claims

On the eve of the 9/11 anniversary, the hosts review the conflicting government claims regarding responsibility for the attacks. They note that various official inquiries have blamed Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Afghanistan at different times, suggesting a pattern of public mind control.

9/11· iran· saudi arabia· iraq· osama bin laden

2:28:32 But as I said, as Commander-in-Chief ultimately... Maybe he's not the one assigned. Maybe Hillary is the one! Well here it says, As Commander in Chief Ultimately You know, I'm responsible for the process that we've set up to make sure What's the process? And what's the process?! Folks who are out to kill Americans that we are able to disable. The guy in the mud hut in Pakistan? That's the folks, before they carry out those plots. Are the standards different when the target is an American? Very good question! So it's a different when the target isn't American okay I think there's no doubt that when an American has made decision to affiliate itself with Al Qaeda and target fellow Americans

2:29:20 that there is a legal justification for us to try to stop them from carrying out plots. Ah, let me get this right! If an American decides to affiliate themselves with Al-Qaeda... Alawaki was an affiliate with al Qaeda that I know of, did he? Was he? But what does that even mean? Does that mean you sign a contract or...? I don't know what it means. It doesn't mean anything. It's just bullshit. You wear the decoder ring What is also true though as an American citizen they are subject to the protections of the Constitution in due process

2:30:01 So there's two things true. One is we're going to kill you, but you do have the right to due process under the Constitution. Yeah and tell it to the drone! Finally on this topic even Brennan said that some in government struggle with this Do you struggle with his policy? Oh absolutely look I think that Look, look, look, look, look, I'm pained a president who doesn't struggle with issues of war and killing people, fighting terrorism. And the difficulties of dealing with an opponent that has no rules. Get him a prompter! He's so slow talking! That is something you have to struggle with because if you don't then... Alright, so the guy is a huge lying pussy

2:31:01 And he won't tell us what the process is, and I'm sorry. I mean, I appreciate that CNN even asked these questions but at this point you've just got to interrupt him and say, first of all Mr President you're a huge pussy What's he going to do? Punch you in the mouth? Arrest you? Are you gonna go to jail for saying that? No but you might be audited for the rest your life and probably beaten up in an alley every so often Oh well there's that They're gonna drone America so they can easily beat you up Now, so shut up. Oh really? Pussy huh? I'll show you what a pussy does and then he walks off the stage next thing you know two goons come in and just work this woman over. Oh yeah! I'll show you pussy biatch So anyway on that idea On this eve of 9-11 i want to wrap up This particular piece of heinous language and talk and cron job

2:31:54 by just running down the sequences after 9-11, who got blamed for the attacks? Because in December of 2011, in case you didn't know a default judgment was held against Iran for being involved in the September 11th attack. So Iran is partially to blame according to the American government For 9-11. Of course, on the other hand, the 9-11 commissioner and co-chair of the Congressional Inquiry to 9-11 both say in sworn declarations that the Saudi Arabian government is linked to the 9-11 attacks

2:32:40 Of course, after 9-11 President Bush and Vice President Cheney and douchebag Rumsfeld of course attacked or accused Iraq and subsequently attacked Iraq for their hand in 9-11. Now you must not forget that Afghanistan is the country that was linked to a 9-11 through Osama Bin Laden who was captured in Pakistan So I just want everyone to understand that we have absolutely no fricking clue who was responsible and your government is mind controlling you into oblivion with confusing bull crap language. Happy 9-11 everybody!

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Syria Sanctions, Russia-US Antarctica Treaty

European foreign ministers met in Cyprus to increase sanctions against the Assad regime in Syria. Simultaneously, Hillary Clinton and Sergey Lavrov signed a bilateral agreement in Vladivostok regarding scientific cooperation and inspections in Antarctica and the Bering Strait.

syria· cyprus· vladimir putin· hillary clinton· antarctica

2:33:27 It's when is 9-11, is that coming up? Yes Tuesday. Well we don't have a show on Tuesday Oh okay I didn't realize yeah you know it's okay well I'm glad you reminded me all right well screw you and this crazy 911 condolences I think we should just stop celebrating it why are we celebrating at all because the president told us to celebrate My finishing thing which has got nothing to do with any of this is just something I've been watching and trying to follow and we need to follow something new. What is going on in Syria? Why have we bailed out, why was Hillary at AIPAC when she could have been at this minister's meeting that no one has told us about that nobody talks about in our media on Syria where were not even apparently at the table

2:34:19 The 27 European Union foreign ministers who've been meeting in Cyprus have agreed to step up sanctions against the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. They also resolved to boost the EU's aid contribution to people displaced by the Syrian crisis, by a further 50 million euros to currently a total 200 million. Meanwhile... Oh very interesting and it was held in Cyprus no less? Yeah. Oh, interesting! Well of course because Europe is the one that has the most to lose if the Russians continue to have control over the distribution through Syria. This is where it gets interesting...

2:34:57 Because perhaps our deals with the Russians have been changing. Remember when Hillary was going to be in Vladivostok and then we equated that with the APEC thing? Well, apparently she did do a meeting and check this one out! This is the Antarctica agreement that was made between us and the Russians... And let me mention before you play the clip There's a huge debate going on right now about the British Antarctic territory, which now whole bunch of Europeans are getting in on and they're all trying to chime in that we own this part because it is believed there's a bunch of oil under Antarctica. And now we have to do a deal with the Russians because were getting screwed out at that too! To strengthen bilateral scientific cooperation in the Antarctica and also around Bering Strait which connects both countries

2:35:45 Clinton and Lavrov signed the documents in Vladivostok on the guidelines of the APEC leaders meeting. Lavrov says Russia and the US should continue their cooperation to inspect foreign stations, installations equipment in Antarctica pursuant to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 and its environmental protocol So the Antarctic Treaty of 59 by the way that was a bad clip from source not me yeah okay So they're gonna do it and there's they're going to inspections of foreign operations in Antarctica the joint venture between the United States and Russia? Yep. And there was a... Well the Russians played to them. ...and then also with the Bering Straits, which because the Russians are claiming an Arctic seabed adventure that they're doing a joint venture with one of our oil companies up there which is becoming a big deal There's a bunch of stuff that's gonna hit the fan shortly and it's going to involve Antarctica It's my put in the book Well no, that's been going on for awhile and we know Clinton went up there couple months ago She was up there already

2:36:44 Well, it's apparently causing a rift between us and the UK that is not really being discussed much. Well you know the Russians they planted a flag under the ice in Antarctica That's how they claimed it They went there with a sub and put a flag under the ice And said this is ours bitches This is ours We're here This is Ruski territory And thats part of the whole dispute And we have Alaska up there So I don't know what's going to happen, but anyone who underestimates Vladimir Putin is very foolish.

2:37:22 Yeah, and I'd say and within if there he's in bed with Hillary. Oh my god That's a visual I didn't need that's In more ways than one Wow wow And so that's something that we got to keep an eye on I think the only people covering it from that perspective I don't put it but I don't put it past her or him III think it's a very distinct possibility We've got all kinds of weird things going on. We have this Glencore-Extrata merger is still not on, there's like... You know what I'm talking about right? The big merger. Yeah you talk about it all the time No! I haven't talked about it in quite awhile actually A year ago you were talking about it all the time

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Asian Welfare States, Paralympics False Flag Theory

The Economist reports on the rapid development of welfare states and health insurance in rural China and broader Asia. The show concludes with a mention of conspiracy theories regarding a potential "false flag" event at the Paralympics closing ceremonies.

the economist· asia· health insurance· paralympics· false flag

2:38:02 Yeah, so but you know they even Tony Blair is trying to get all the shareholders lined up and there's something really some really really big moves happening. And meanwhile you know what are we doing? We're watching Honey Boo Boo here comes honey boo boo that's the name of So I would, let's play one last thing now. The Socialism in Asia clip from France Vancat which was a discussion of all the different covers and it is talking about an article in the New Economist and I thought there was a couple of zingers in this thing that were just like why are we being propagandized with this bullcrap? Alright and there's an eye-catching cover on The Economist as well

2:38:47 normally the domain of politicians and public figures, we have got babies on the front of The Economist. An in-depth look at the reinvention of the welfare state across Asia is a really intriguing article because it says that as Asia has become more affluent, citizens are wanting the governments to do more and provide better health care, more pensions, welfare state basically. And also look at the incredible speed at which these are being developed for example it says that in rural China two years ago 80% of people didn't have access to health insurance. Now everyone does, compare that to perhaps welfare states in Europe that took half a century to create so very fast developments happening in Asia looked at by the economists. Alright well... Health insurance? In rural China? Really?! They didn't have access to health insurance in rural China! Really!?

2:39:51 That's where we're going with this? Yeah, I guess. I guess that is where it is going. Gotta find the best insurance company to invest in. Meanwhile, Ms. Mickey is on the verge of getting kicked out of her insurance. Oh, that stinks! Because she has some actual stuff and they are like you are going too often to the chiropractor. You gotta pay for yourself or we investigate. Yeah, that's your future. Get used to it. Well, no I told her to get used to me doing the chiropractic stuff. That's what I told her Hey honey. Heyo You don't need you don't need that guy. I can do it watch this Wow yeah

2:40:35 Alright, so we do have a lot of stuff coming up. According to the true conspiracy theorists we should have a false flag event at the closing ceremonies of the Paralympics tonight it being 9-9 The 11th year of 911 99 equals 3045 nine times nine is 33 somehow So you can watch out for that Yeah, yeah I know. Holding my breath on that one. No no, I didn't bring it up but just wanted to say it in case it happened. Like as they see? Insurance! It's my own version of insurance. Noah Jenner Producer Update is coming up on the stream right after the program so make sure you catch that and we're going to enjoy our 78 degree weather here during the climate apocalypse of 2012

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