Mud on the Truck

00:00 Yeah, I could be a butchered winter. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Sunday August 19th 2012 time for your Gizmo Nation media assassination this is episode 346 This is no agenda Smack in the middle of the landscape that Rover Curiosity loves so much From Albuquerque, in the great state of New Mexico. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where our East meets West I am John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill Morning! What do you mean east meets west?

00:35 What do you mean, what do I mean? Yeah. What do you mean? Where east meets west Not in Silicon Valley! Yeah have you ever been to Silicon Valley probably not yeah i think i've been around there's a lot of indians here oh okay now i was thinking gitmo nation but there's a lot of chinese here Oh right well that makes sense Hey John, I'm in Albuquerque. Hey! It's kind of... Albuquerque is the crap hole of New Mexico. Oh that is so unfair and so wrong of you to say You should be in Santa Fe That is the tourist trap of New Mexico I didn't say it wasn't

01:17 Let me can I give you an update on the 2009? Tour as we've had some interesting developments along the way oh Interesting development interesting developments indeed, okay last time. We spoke wait wait let me get can I guess a couple of things first If it's really a gas flat tire um let me think was it flat tire ah No, not flat tire. No no we're sorry you have two more guesses if you wish to wager mr.. Dvorak a yourself A blown is it a blown head gasket survey says oh? I'm so sorry No, no Septic tank overflow septic tank overflow can we see septic tank overflow? Oh, I'm so sorry that it is still a possibility though We're out of the woods

02:06 Uh, you know let me start by saying I think...I had this with my airplane. You saw my airplane right? You saw it when it was at Oakland Airport Yeah yeah! You had in a hangar Before we ate it basically Pretty much Yeah I don't think..I flew it once and then it's like goodbye But I love that aircraft I've been through alot with that aircraft And I think I'm getting the same....I dont know if this is possible or weird Can you actually start to love your truck Is that possible Oh yeah! I mean I LOVE THIS TRUCK I love my truck. What is it Adam? What kind of a truck might it be, its a Dodge? Its a Dodge Ram! Funny you should ask John. 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport with 4 doors and the shortened bed that's right. Despite the way to me this is the dorkiest looking truck in the world but go on. Oh man shh cover Sallys ears I don't want her hear that

03:00 And I'm really starting to love this truck. It's a now, we really understand each other so we left Moab Utah after the show on Thursday you know kind of snuck out so none of the Dutch people would be able to take pictures of us for the gossip magazines to show our pathetic little setup they'd probably like ha ha that is such a dorky truck And we drove, so we're kind of on our way back and instead of taking I-70 through Colorado which would seem repetitious in boring. We decided to go a different route as suggested by Chad Christian who turned out to be great. When you're traveling and got some internet connection, traveling is great if you've got people all around the country like we do on the show

03:50 You know, you get such great recommendations of places to go. A couple of dogs too but Chad has pretty much steered us right and he suggested we camp overnight in Ouray Colorado are you familiar with Ouray? Yeah, it's one of those small village-like communities that pepper the Rocky Mountains in the state of Colorado. Telluride Aspen I would put in that category No! Oh no, Aspen is very different from Ouray Well now I'm just saying these small towns peppering the place some are more popular than others But I looked at Ouray and didn't even see they had a Main Street They do In fact its called Main Street

04:31 Yeah, and but Uray is in what they call the Switzerland of America And I have to say having been to Switzerland the way. The mountains are in Uray is just stunning so beautiful There's a campground up in the National Park amphitheater campground Which is out now we're talking We're almost 9,000 feet and it really is you know in an amphitheater building. You see down into the valley and this... Oh this is where he decided to stop smoking! Yeah no that's Wednesday when we get home Just before the next show This is where Ayn Rand finished Atlas Shrugged And a lot of Uri was inspiration for Galt's Gulch Hello?

05:28 You've lost me now you do you were doing something else? That elitist writer that they thought everyone who was, you know better than everyone else should run things and the other people should just be useless slaves that it's really interesting because I figured this had to be there had to be some kind of uh... universal reason that we were there and this is the atlas shrugged town now and then i'm reading all these news reports in everyone's i think um first of all anyone who was not read atlas shrugged and his commenting on it but like yourself

06:10 I've read Atlas Shrugged. You tested me and I passed. But when did you read it? How long ago was it, and in what mind frame were... It doesn't make any difference to me. I've read her other book too and seen that... had it with her Let me just say something When Paul Ryan is a big Atlas shrug nut. Yeah, I have a clip well hold on back you up That's the back me up. I want to say so you up. You got your back all right? What's your what's your what's your clip okay? John Nichols on Paul Ryan yeah that's it Okay, I have something else to say but we'll listen to it's a long clip apparently starts off with with with and Rand

06:53 I'm wrong. She is a Russian immigrant, family supposedly dispossessed by the Russian Revolution came to the United States and throughout her writing career was a militant opponent of what she called collectivism but really what she meant was government and beyond that a critic even of helping your neighbor She said that selfishness must be the central organizing precept of your life and that the most important thing was to take care of yourself, don't worry about others. Now, Paul Ryan started reading Ayn Rand as a very young man. He has read all of her books. He has appeared at Ayn Rand celebrations and events. He cut a video in which he said that in these times – this was a video cut about two years ago – one of the most important things people can do is to read Ayn Rand. It's one of the best ways to respond to Obama's election. I've got to interrupt this for a minute. This is a long clip.

07:51 Here's what I wanted to say John when did you read Atlas Shrugged? I'm gonna talk about her other books. I'm not talking about her philosophy When did you read Atlas shrugged, did you read that first or do you have an opinion before the first book? I read by her was first had an opinion of her before I read anything but this is College yes, and for this unfortunate as unfortunate Well, let me just you don't know that it may be fortunate. I don't think so listening to how you respond I don't think is fortunate but okay well it could be well tell me when did you read it? You read in college no here Let me back let me give you the whole story I was when I was in college I had a roommate who was an and ran nut he had two boys

08:29 books, he was an objectivist. He was part of the club and he had this series of newsletters that they sent out. All he did was read that and ran books and Dale Carnegie's How to Influence Friends. So I thought this... And the guy was kind of weird also. Well he was a nut apparently! You have preconceived notions about him already. Maybe two years later I sat down in one sitting by the way it is only time I've ever read a book like that. What? Did you eat? Did you poop? How can you? That's impossible to read that book in one sitting. I sat down in one sitting and read The Fountainhead, in one sitting. Oh, The Fountainhead! Yeah but that doesn't count. It's the same book! No it's...I haven't read The Fountainehead. Well then how can you judge? And if your such an Anne Rand fanatic- No no I'm not! You haven't read all of her stuff like Paul Ryan has Because because I'm not. I want you to listen to what I have to say without interruption for a moment. Impossible. I know I know

09:22 I'm not saying that i am an Ayn Rand fan, but Atlas Shrugged. The book Atlas Shrugged, I took from a whole different perspective than what im reading from other incredibly smart elitist people who all say exactly what you said. Apparently the rich we can't do without them screw everybody else thats not how I read the book! I got a whole different take away. I read the book when I was 44 So a little bit later in life, not in your college years when you're... I've never even heard of objectivism. I didn't know anything about it The way I took the book was that the government was screwing up the entire universe and this was the only way to accelerate the collapse to get things back to normal. I didn't take it from this perspective that oh! You can do without us rich people running everything

10:16 Which is what I'm hearing. I have just a totally different take on this book and i'm surprised that you saw it from that way, that perspective basically the leftist progressive perspective as you would call it...I'm surprised by that! That you didn't see the other side of the book maybe you should reread it? She's hard to read Well, I'd say... Anyway go on. Well that was very difficult to read once you become a professional writer and you have trouble reading certain people because they're it just it makes you cringe And you were a professional writer when you read this? You were already a... No no no yeah okay but can you see... I was when I read Atlas Shrugged Can you see my perspective on the book though that's different? No not at least

11:00 We all have to disagree on this, but I encourage anyone who is talking about Atlas Shrugged right now in the media. I just like to know when did you read it and what mindset were you? Okay now I think your position is valid finish your story Well, so the only gripe I had about watching you know going through Ura and knowing that this was the inspiration for Galt's Gulch. I was like no way did she land a plane here? That's what I was thinking. Oh! What?! You just thought that was it!? That's the punchline?? I'm just saying...you took me into a whole clip and then didn't want to hear Alright So then we can now um It's Now this is very important This is very important

11:44 We're in, uh... Ouray. Then we go on to what's after Ouray? Um... Ugh! Starts with a P. Actually might start with a P. Uh another famous Colorado town. Oh Durango! Ah Durango! So we stop in Durango for lunch. You're driving a Dodge Durango No I'm not driving a Dodge Durango And it starts hailing. And by the way, we have this fantastic lunch at the Cypress Cafe another recommendation This is all good to get off the main street and someone tells you where to go We had a dynamite lunch It's raining its hailing there's you know There's wind their storm and it was pretty cool We wait until that dies down a little bit and then we drive on and were on our way to Albuquerque and we get gas in Cuba New Mexico

12:36 Now I'd like you to get the map John, just so you can see what happened after this. This I have to yelp. Yelp? Let me Google. Hold on let me get a little map and take a second Are you doing Cypress Cafe or are going straight back onto Cuba? I'm going to Cuba New Mexico. Cuba New Mexico which is... Wait wait wait give me break here lemme get this thing out of my head. Nah nah I'll embellish it that's on route 550 and what you typically do is you take route... I'm seeing it, I can't. I am on the map. You're on the map. I see Route 550 in the mountains Right so you'd... And coming in there's a green valley and then you hit Cuba right? And then typically go all the way down to Route 25 and then your off to New Mexico right not off to Albuquerque Well I'm not zoomed out far enough to see that It's okay stay right where you are on Cuba

13:19 And so we get some gas and I have a picture of the gas station here. You might, because there's one gas station that's the one! There is no internet connection, cell phone but no data connection and the guy in front me actually pulled up more waiting for him to get gas he sees us and gets back in his car pulls up so you know it was really nice yes we can pull up and we don't have to wait for him to fill up And he says, well I couldn't let a pretty little lady wait. He was talking about Mickey, I hope. I hope so too but you never know in northern New Mexico! Hey hey hey easy and then he says where y'all headed? We're going down south to Albuquerque. He says roads out. What? Roads out. Well what do you mean? Propane truck overturned roads out closed down traffic's backing up mile marker 29

14:18 And I said... That was nice that he told you this. Very nice! Are there ways of routing around? Well, well hold on a second so now of course it's the rain is following us the rain is now starting to come down in Cuba and what do you think? He says well this just happened its Friday they're probably gonna let the propane tank burn out 8000 gallons of propane So that's going take awhile Is there way around it And he says, well yeah you can take 126 down to 4 through the mountains but I don't know if it just rains or you know. And we're like cool! We're going to do that so... So your gonna take 128? 126. 126 through Fenton Lake State Park? Yes You see it on the map? Oh yeah Now do you see that there's a 20 mile stretch that is unpaved

15:11 No, it doesn't show that. So we get... Did he mention that to you? What he said was I don't know with the rain in the mountains That's kind of his warning which we didn't quite understand So we're... Now Mickey by the way is a great map reader and of course at this point my Google Maps is useless because I can't get a route because it has no data connection. Right, that's the drawback to the cloud! Well, uh, Mickey has one of those where you have to download the maps and so she hadn't yet downloaded... The old school? Yeah but she hadn't yet downloaded New Mexico or had the downloaded stop somewhere so she didn't have that but we had of course paper maps

15:52 She's looking at the man. She's really good at this she says like well looks like we had a piece of What does this say and where's were seeing signs saying? unpassable in inclement weather And it's raining, it's like it's coming down horizontal But one nice paved road It's beautiful John this put this National Park is so weak I mean with literally 10 minutes from the gas station We're in paradise besides that as raining And it looks really beautiful. And of course we're now seeing cars coming from the other direction who had come up Route 4 going around this accident, up 126 the other way and were driving and all of a sudden where on the unpaved road which is no longer a road at this point its three or four inches of mud

16:40 So I'm hauling 6,000 pounds of trailer. Wow! This is your story? Yeah yeah so i put Sally into four-wheel drive Oh you have four wheel drive that's right That's valuable in this situation Very we would have not made it but there are people literally like passing us making the turnaround signal and people saying stopping going hey man you should camp did you set up camp don't go any further It's horrible it's terrible You'll never make it So we're kind of debating what we should do. Of course you paid no attention to these people Well, not really because I'm still doing good. You know this well, you know well yeah, I'm doing well and there's this road Where you have to stop to let someone else pass? you know so it actually it's kind of nice because people are real real courteous and And then some good old boys in a pickup truck stop, and they say how's it looking oh

17:31 Say well I got through it with his trailer. He said how was it up there? He said he looks at me and goes yeah, you'll be alright And that was enough for me It was the good old New Mexico boys who sighs on you wasn't saying that laughing no he sized me up He looked at the trailer looked at Sally and went yeah know you'll be all right it took us about two hours to Doing an average probably 10 miles an hour and and the end you know It was pretty much easy, but when you're going downhill. Oh yeah That's when it gets tricky because the trailer is essentially a big boulder pushing you down the hill So I don't have you seen the pictures no I sent you an email. I mean God forbid you read it there's a couple of pictures on The Flickr website

18:23 Mean this the truck is caked the trip. The bin is caked There is mud inside the bin I don't know how it got in But does that yeah, so So we're about only really late only delayed us by about an hour We rolled into New Mexico at around 10 o'clock and Mickey's and oh by the way, so we were on 126 Mickey calls Jeff our host who's also arranging the meetup. Jeff Tuhig and he is still at work, and she says we're going on route 126 And you know he's looking at the map with his co-workers like oh my god they are not really gonna do that and then of course they lose contact with us. Hey before you get

19:15 And they figured if they hadn't heard from us by midnight, they were gonna go out and search for us. That's what this road was like! Well I'm looking at the pictures of mud on your...on the Durango It's not a Durango it's a Ram! It's not that bad? It's not like you're really inundated with mud just some on the running boards. Right..the whole car is gray. Anyway it was quite exciting And so we said, you know where we're finally on route 25. We're about 15 minutes away from Jeff's house and Mickey colleges Oh happy to hear from you because no didn't know if we had to come and rescue you can I get you anything? Yeah Jack Daniels So we we arrived we drink half a bottle of jack fall asleep hookers and blow on the side Well interesting you mentioned that

20:06 Um, because we uh... So Jeff lives in a kind of barn. It's a great house! You know how you arrive at someone's house and on this trip we're kinda like oh man, we don't know what it's gonna be like where are going to be sleeping? We've had interesting experiences And his house is clean. It's pristine Everything's in its place. It's really it's a nice bachelor pad You know beautiful outside terrace, you know he's got a loft bed so we're like oh this is paradise But he's behind another house which is Their new tenants coming in but the landlord of the landlady said go ahead you can park the bin in the driveway So it's not out on the street

20:52 And she was here yesterday while we're backing up the bin, we got it in the driveway. She's real nice but then she comes out with a bucket and a sponge and says yeah I'm going to take the hookers and blow off your car because that...I can't have that in the neighborhood! So we appeased her. I'm like, alright no don't worry about it i'll take it off. So that's the end of hookers and blow? Hooker's and blow is off yeah The JCB here is still there. Well im surprised you didn't get pulled over by the police We still have slave and two to the head on this on the bin that's all there um so then uh And so then uh... I'm sensitive about hookers and blow for some unknown reason in that part of the country I can't believe-I dont understand it! I dont understand! I dunno what it is either

21:39 So one of our early night or dames Sent an email in years ago a couple two three years ago saying she was that she was slightly upset about us ever say continuing to say hookers and blow mm-hmm, and She but she was on the impression that the blow part was like it was like a like blowjob No, well no if nothing as bad as that. It's only cocaine oh Not something as horrible as fellatio. We wouldn't participate in that kind of talk So I just wonder what they must have a different perspective In general and in then, you know? I've known a lot of people that have moved to New Mexico And some fallen love at the place and they stay there It's really great place if you like lightning and other people been aroused by the locals

22:29 I have to say it's really nice. We've had nothing but great experiences Jeff had one of his colleagues from work come over, Alex. He's studying to be an electrician and so he dismantled the 240 outlet and made it 120 and we got extended cord for our direct Ethernet connection. Actually Jeff had a whole new DSL installed just for our visit So, you know it's been everyone has been really great very hospitable. Here is the one thing I will say so I find out once we arrive that the minute we left Colorado torrential rains Utah torrential rains in southern Utah We drive through Colorado there is hail. We drive through New Mexico roads are washed out In fact a commuter train has been washed out for four days because of the rain. I know why this is happening

23:27 The weather machine. It's that damn rain stick! Oh, the rain stick you brought? We rolled out the rain stick in Utah and all of a sudden rain has been following us. Well pull it out again and shake it some more. No no I'm gonna do it on...no I have a theory now my theory is the rain- You're gonna do it in Texas Yes! My theory is the rainstick really works we have to do it on this show it doesn't just work if your shaking around but- No it needs to be on the internet. No it has to be on THE BEST PODCAST IN THE UNIVERSE That's when it works! Alright, well we'll do that. When you get back to Austin you can shake it and shake it and see what happens in Texas We'll see if we can make it rain I have a feeling this thing is magical Huh...could be an artifact Warehouse 13 is back on the air It could be magical Just to wrap this up so uh..we had a great lunch Oh, I've learned some culinary knowledge Really? Is that how you treat me

24:27 So when you're in New Mexico, and this probably goes for Mexico. You are offered a number of choices no matter what you order if you say cornflakes they still got 15 questions One of the questions will be red or green. Are you familiar with this question? Does this have to... Yes, I am as a matter of fact! I've heard about the red and green question. I always thought it was about different kinds of hot sauce. Well yeah what chilies do you want and depending on what it is so either red chilies are green chillies but here's the cool answer if you want to look like you fit in The answer is can you guess the answer No You just say um I'll have Christmas

25:10 Oh really? Uh-huh. And that means you get the red and green mixed. Oh no, is that what it means?! Yeah really! Let me write that down I would have never figured that out! Douche... Alright so we had a great meetup last night and that'll lead us right into our associate executive producers in a moment but what was handed to me at the meet up John was uh..and i can't tell you who i got this from but this is a manual apparently one of our producers work somewhere where these are laying around from the US Customs and Border Protection Agency a practical Spanish grammar booklet. And this entire book, so basically it's situations and what to say and you know how to speak Spanish but let me just... You can open it up on any random page and I shall read what the customs and border patrol

26:04 Protection agency is being taught when it comes to Spanish. I shall read only the English for obvious reasons Following is a group of commands that may be helpful to the beginner Some are given with reflexive pronouns which will be explained later. Are you ready John to hear some of these? Group of commands I'm on pins and needles show me your passport raise your hands Get in the car get out of the car get out of the train stop Relax your hand tell me the truth Show me the trail This thing is filled with nothing but shut up slave It's like nowhere. Is it like how do you say? You know Buenas Dias, how you doing your hair looks nice None of that the whole the whole thing is just get mo talk And I'm treasuring this

27:02 Let me see if I can find some more here. The whole thing is just crazy! Tell me your complete and correct name of what country are you a citizen? Hey, citizen on what day month and year were you born where were you born What is your address in the United States How about do you know where the cinema is? What time does the cinema start? Here let me try this one Have you ever been arrested by police anywhere for having violated some other law citizen Do you have other visible marks or scars? This is a great book. This one day will show up in the museum as the Hitler Bible of the United States How awesome are we Yeah, so that's humiliating So associate executive producers... producer of course is Jeff Tuhig It's crazy name Irish name Tuhig

27:58 Who has been our host here? He's provided us with whiskey. He's provide us with dinner with dinner he's uh, he's really gone all out along with his buddy Alex and all he really wanted from us was a Shut up slave and two to the heads karma. So let me make sure I give him that you've got karma so we do that and while I'm at it, I would like to Thanks Steve Foster and Liz who came to the meetup Donated $200 both of them unemployed by the way momentarily And he drove five hours to get to the meetup from Arizona. I think that was nice yeah, and he is a He's a vet and he is a used to be I think had the same job that atomic rod had he was on a nuclear sub

28:58 He was subs in the water and he is a an operator, nuclear reactor operator. And he is looking for a gig! So I'm gonna hook him up with atomic rods, see if we can get him any kind of civilian gig. But he... all they wanted really was a de-douching and a nuclear job karma callout so... You've been de-douched! Karma. Maybe you can get in on these little small nukes they're starting to look at building? Well Atomic Rod is into that thats why i am going try and hook them up, you never know it cant be like uh..a thing that alot of people do

29:35 Yeah, I don't think it's like that. Right if there is a job opening he has a good shot He is the guy! I think so too But he was telling me some amazing stories which am not allowed to repeat but I do have in my arsenal about his travels underwater. And in the morning by the way to all of our subs in the water and the chat room there at NoahJenIsStreamed.com, and in the morning to you John C. Dvorak. Subs in the water feet in the air and nights the world over that's right. Hello Knights Somebody mentioned doing an email I should mention That we don't call out We don't give the knights enough hellos which really you could and they're all over the world it's we don't well He says when we do the greeting

30:27 Well, what do you mean? Oh when we do the opening ITM greeting. Yes. Okay I've been building and building pretty soon to be up to ten very good But at nights and the Knights really came through Today to help us after a terrible Thursday donation producing said saying was and so we have but just to thank Besides the ones you have that you picked up along the way we have of our one two three four five six seven Producers and associate producers five of them are Knights

31:05 Wow, well then so the nights do come through for us one is especially in the dog days. Yeah. Well it's nice to do that yeah Sir Michael Zelina in Lakewood Ohio came up with another knighthood for his 12121212 knighthood which we don't have enough of He's re-upping his knighthood. This is fifth, sixth? Seventh? It's fifth or sixth. Wow Just give a hot milf to my better half Kelly Okay That's one hot milf baby Yeah Love that That was the silliest thing ever This kid is gonna grow up and say I said that really? I'm famous! Yeah I'm famous I was on the best podcast in universe Oh alright well uh Shut Up! Sit down

31:54 Sir James Spitzer in Jamaica Plains, Massachusetts. 42424. Oh! My monthly to the new sustaining provider level $42 and I'm kicking it off with a palindromic 42 24 for the extra espresso karma boost. Oh, let me hand that out this is turbocharged my friend you've got karma awesome Wow thank you Knights that's great all and another associate or another executive producer is Sir Dean Bertram right in Accra Ghana Who was the I related a story about him because a friend of mine Was in Ghana right right and ran into him yeah, and he said don't give money to those guys. Yeah starving Yeah, it wasn't because we don't need the money or if we don't deserve it is because Africans are starving It's these a piece of music He's a African file

32:54 Anyway, afrofile afro file good day John and Adam been a bit of a boner not donated for a while probably thanks to Greg but since today's my daughter's birthday I thought I should dig deep and donate can I get a birthday shout out for my daughter Deanna who turns 10 on 17th? We've got her down. She's been a listener for over a year Wow ten-year old wow now Yeah, she's a nine year old we play the show on the way to school And she gets her no agenda in 40 minute bite-sized pieces. Can you also send a bit of karma her way as the summer holidays are nearly over? With this donation I'm well on the way to a third knight who'd like to give it a second to my daughter Deanna, so if you can make her a Dame of the Realm on Sunday that would be real birthday buzz for her! Awesome! Hopefully by December I have completed the third one so i can make your big sister a dame as well when her birthday comes around otherwise I'll be in the shit. But wait a minute... So does Deanna become a dame today because they don't have her on list

33:41 Yes, I don't know but then we don't night James. I'm sorry Michael Zelina does he not get an extra knighthood or He didn't give it away to anybody you didn't give it away to anybody okay good Okay So Dame Deanna good good good We're all set the accounting is here ok and associate executive producer Gary Blatt so hold on we got to do the karma he asked for a Back-to-school karma end of summer Karma You've got Karma So she'll be, she's good to go. Uh, Sir Gary Blatt in Wayne Pennsylvania $250 a Michael Baker Wolvewind Queensland 250 is my donation so that John can upgrade the Skype premium and making it well we're gonna see how they when I go uh helium today we're going to do the plug of the USB plug right?

34:36 And so Mickey and Adam get home from the tour. It also brings up my knighthood donation, best wishes for the best podcast in the universe Scott Spencer Black Knight Scott Spencer as a matter of fact Dawsonville Georgia nice neck of the woods 23456 Sir Scott to you, donating sober for a change. I'll keep this short for a change also. I'm listening to 435 please split this donation between John and Adam so that Adam gets some gas money and John gets some money from his legal fees. Screw the Bank of America! Yeah thanks for the best part it's again these stories getting better but okay well uh... So he wants some karma for John okay hey John this is your screw bank in america karma You've got Karma Can we talk about the update or?

35:20 If it works out. We're still accumulating data. Brussels, Belgium 22269 That's all I got totally anonymous Belgium says too shy for the interwebs but i could use some of that famous no agenda karma nothing seems to be going right lately well this will do it you're in brussels that would be part of the problem there you go you've got karma hopefully this clears it up You know what is crazy between the Karma and the rain stick man we are on a roll Sir Michael Miller, Tiburon California $200 Hot Pockets Tour Fund Money and finally Noagendanation.com Eric have sold enough mugs to send us 200 bucks so he's on the list You know we've been handing out the remain- the remnant of our stickers and

36:10 Which are very popular I have to say as well Do you know what's actually? really Popular is the damn things you hang around your neck. What do you call them lanyard lanyards? And I have to say I have a lanyard for the for the bin with the keys on it and little flashlight so, you know at night when I'm like and I have to stay particularly when you're doing some camping It's really handy. You're not running around looking for your keys, which you always misplace in the dark. Now it looks pretty stupid and you look like an idiot but you know... I just got back from a train show. You look like a latchkey kid essentially. Remember that? I was a latch key kid were you a latch key kid now i was not a latch key kid now your mama was always home with a PB&J for ya

36:58 Yeah, I guess. What do you mean you guess? It's not like i remember Oh wow okay sorry Hmm get in the house We very much appreciate uh this uh Balancing out of our past actually past two or three shows thank you very much knights for stepping in and doing what you do best of course anyone who Likes our value for value model and donates to the show has a possibility of becoming an associate executive producer or an executive producer These are actual credits. It says not like some bogatyr thing You can put it on your IMDB you could put it on your resume And unlike the phonies in Hollywood We will gladly vouch for you if someone brings this into question If you were not involved in producing episode of The Best Podcast In The Universe, then you can always do that by going to Dvorak.org slash N A Oops wrong one here we go

37:57 Now, please think about propagating our formula. Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. Get ready to say it everybody! So tonight we travel anyway. Yeah, thanks After the show we pack up We're gonna wash down the bin and Sally Sally in the sin bin which I still think would be a great name for a band and better than pussy riot And then we're going to Drive to Clovis New Mexico where we have a night and a dame? I believe and we're going to make our stop there this evening and then tomorrow

39:01 We basically have two days to get to Austin. I think it's 12 hours or something, so we'll see how we do There is a whole lot of nothing between Clovis and Austin And of course were going to go...we want to drive route 40 and not i10 because you know what's on i10 right? Border Patrol Exactly What if you actually should take I tend and then I should have my booklet? To 40 is your best bet yes, sir. I crossed the way 40 that clear no No the 10 well You can take the 46 in your yo pase call me pasaporte local Vena a buscar trabajo on Tucson Yo no se leonia scream here this is what I should be saying

39:52 Oh, here. Señor yo no quiero empleo permanente. Quiero acuaderme en nomas dos o tres semanas! I'm just visiting two or three weeks Mickey should say that That'd be very funny if we get pulled over. I just pull out the book Oh, yeah, it would be hilarious to watch because you know those border patrol guys that work for the... They're so funny! They have the greatest sense of humor You can just have time in your life yucking it up with them Yeah There was a funny report Let me see if I can find this about border patrol Did you take the 84 down? Through Lubbock

40:34 I think the... Yeah, take it through Lubbock and then go through Abilene on the 20. That's a nice run to hit Fort Worth and go down straight. Possible. Well let me play you this report from Border Patrol up at the Canadian border And this kind of explains why these guys that pull us over, who are members of the Border Patrol Are 6'8", weigh 280 pounds and look like their breath could kill you Well it was border officials. There's something called the Border Enforcement Security Task Force Made up by Department Of Homeland Security in the US Immigration Officials As well as some Canadian borders services The RCMP

41:13 They caught on to the fact that there were some shipments, parcels going through courier services in the United States where they detected some drugs. They were being sent to a private mailbox outlet on the Buffalo and New York side of the border They began monitoring this private mailbox to see who was coming to pick up these packages and lo and behold it turns out It was a man named Jeffrey Purdy, who they've arrested in April And he is a constable with the Niagara Regional Police Service 13 years. And they have charged him with conspiracy to export controlled substances and distribute Now these drugs

41:49 Some of them were Valium, some of them included the ingredient to make the date rape drug. But largely it was testosterone and other anabolic steroids that the authorities contend were being brought across the border." So I think that these guys are all amped up? They're all pumped up. Amped up, pumped up? They're juiced up! They're on the juice I don't want to generalize of course but i would say there's a high likelihood these guys are using their own routes The whole country is going to be on this stuff eventually Hold on John before we do the show I gotta shoot up in the shoulder here I gotta make my shoulders a little broader What are you talking about the whole country is gonna be on this This is my prediction

42:32 So wait, I'm looking at this. You go from Sweetwater you go through this look if there's 20 route to start started Clovis started Clovis though Okay, Clovis let me get back to Clovis Well, you're gonna go through okay. You're gonna come down to 285 to Roswell anyway right? Yeah we are going through Roswell of course We're working so let's start at Roswell I have to go to the shrine Are you kidding me? You take the 285 you go all the way that the Pecos mm-hmm And then you take 220 Odessa this is your Texas trip Odessa Midland Big Spring Colorado City Abilene Sweetwater How many miles do you calculate on this route? It's gonna be the same as your other route, but this takes you to Fort Worth and when you get to Fort Worth it take the 35W south through Hillsboro and then you go through Waco. And you got that out of... You've got that albatross off. We live right near Waco Yeah but this time we get to go there. Go through Waco Oh! You know what is in Waco? In Waco is the Ranger Museum

43:34 The Texas Rangers. I've been to Waco. Uh-huh, heard about that then you come by and you just go past Ford Hood and you wave at the shooter hey everybody how are you doing? Okay i'm sure Miss Mickey was writing it all down Hey Andrew Horowitz just tweeted that we're live That's interesting. Is he sucking up to us? No, he's got some scheme. Yeah, he's got something going doesn't he well some I'm looking forward to it. He hasn't said what but i'll find out shortly. Looking forward to it But some money-making scheme oh good that's all we need yeah a money making scheme please Oh, I found a great clip actually then maybe now maybe it's an end of show clip the uh... I haven't been in this show clip

44:21 Well, I'm just kind of on the on the Gitmo Department of Homeland Security douchebags. Yeah This is um... The acting director of the ATF B Todd Jones Anyone of you can tell me your name Hello! I am B. I am B Todd Jones My name's B You call me B Or Mr.B And he did something called a change cast which was a video that was mandatory viewing for all employees of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives. And so someone videotaped... I guess it was released on DVD? ...and someone videotape this off of a screen and it essentially is the biggest SHUT UP! I have ever heard like don't you ever think being a whistleblower and this came out a month-and-a-half ago

45:23 Don't you dare think about talking to anybody except your superiors. You want to hear a little bit of this and oh, yeah Okay here it is its audio is a little crappy But I actually like it because it sounds very very understandable yeah, and it sounds very hello citizen I like it Listen up citizens Do you hear this man there's choices and consequences and working as a team Yeah, do you like?

46:59 Yeah, this is part of the whole government strategy to arrest and deal with whistleblowers and make examples out of everybody. It's the only reason they're trying to get Assange So you want to move on to Assange? We're you want to hear more that the sage clip I has is a son's mom watches a couple of Assange clips Yeah, I can do a couple okay first of all my favorite one was on I'm not sure where this was on one these foreign broadcast But they arrested Gary Kasparov. Oh no this is no no no no no pussy riot will get to in a second because I Assage mom

47:37 This is a long clip, maybe think of it as the end of show clip because it's really good clip. Where Assange's mom just goes after the UK government. I'll tell you what why don't we save that for end-of-show clip and let me play for you the funniest Assange clip from CNN Okay, then I have it. Did I have the you Ecuador's irk by UK? Okay good good We'll play that right after so here here's what's going on When I lived in Gitmo nation UK East I flew there I flew helicopters. I flew airplanes and know all the rules and regulations I know exactly how everything works CNN comes out with this report about how Assange can possibly escape a

48:19 from the Ecuadorian embassy and you just have to listen to it, and I've got to stop because i was rolling on the floor as a simple aviator. I was rolling on the floor listening to this. Inside in what's at the moment considered Ecuadoran territory and with British police outside ready to pounce Scenarios are being debated over a possible Assange escape. Is this an option? Getting smuggled out in the trunk of a diplomatic car? A former British diplomat says the car would be considered Ecuadoran domain, British police he says could stop it but not search it

49:02 couldn't necessarily pull a sign out but there's a hitch in that plan the hitch apparently there's no garage available to the ecuadorian embassy we're told is only one entrance to the embassy right here and obviously that's not an option so that was dumb let's try the next idea the building is completely surrounded by british police they're in the streets, the alleys, the side streets if anyone was going to try to take Assange from the building to awaiting car the police would get him The police are also reported to be monitoring the so-called communal areas of the building, the hallways and elevators preventing Assange from taking an elevator up to the roof where a helicopter could pick him up. Okay stop right there!

49:40 You are not, repeat you are not going to land a helicopter in London on a rooftop. This is just simply... Are you gonna fly into London's airspace and land on the roof and pick up Assange? I mean, are they insane these people at CNN? No, no! They're even crazier Police can monitor the hallways and elevators because the Ecuadoran embassy occupies only one floor, the first floor. And not even all of that! It's here right where this window is and Assange can barely step into a hallway without risking apprehension If he did somehow get to a car, there are airports large and small in every direction. Yeah... There's always border patrol at all of these airports you have to register every flight in and out this is the stupidest report ever but it gets even dumber! But experts say once he got to one of those he could easily be captured He could actually be smuggled out in a crate or a large bag There ya go thank you It's Assange in a bag ladies and gentlemen How stupid is CNN?

50:42 Well, you know the funny thing is that one obvious thing that they...that is something that's actually possible. They didn't even mention! Which was you gotta get him in a car somehow and once he's in the car, the car goes on the tunnel drags him to Paris and the French say fuck you, you can arrest him now Well, well thats kinda how it started like he'd hide in the trunk but they don't have a garage No, I know but he has to get into the channel. They never mentioned the channel as an exit strategy What's your Ecuador clip? Well my Ecuador thing is kind of interesting because this was the thing this leads to Apparently the Russians made it clear that if the British do what this guy describes It's something that they can't do their pulling out Never again should a foreign embassy in this country be allowed to be abused in that manner and so three years later

51:34 The Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act was introduced to allow the legal revocation of the diplomatic status of a building. Last night, the Ecuadorian government leaked a letter they'd received from the Foreign Office raising the spectre of Britain enforcing this law. We very much hope not to get to this point," the letter said but if you cannot resolve the issue with Mr Assange's presence on your premises, this route is open to us." Standoff. This evening, in the face of Ecuadorian indignation the Foreign Secretary stuck to his guns There are no time limits as I say that's a problem more for the embassy and for Mr Assange than for this country except we are determined to fulfil our legal obligations under the Extradition Act to Sweden

52:22 So where on earth does this go now? murderer and Assange has not even been indicted they just want him for questioning this is a the British government which by the way Assange's mother goes on about with the same rant I'm doing yeah, the British government should be ashamed of themselves and in fact the British government are what they all say lapdogs for Obama. Yeah you think so uh... the theory that there someone else in there? You don't think that holds water? Do you think this is still really all about just getting whistleblowers and extradition

53:11 rolling it up and... No, I think that does hold water. But at the same time they can make their point because Obama administration has been the hardest on whistleblowers so if they can kill two birds with one stone that's even better but they're definitely after this guy Well there are consequences you know There is choices and consequences The guy's not even an American citizen. As far as I'm concerned on the internet, he can publish whatever he wants to publish we haven't got any jurisdiction over him And then there was an actual Occupy moment which relates to this... Where is it? Why can i not find this? Well okay It wasn't all that interesting anyway but I guess Occupy Oakland

54:02 has wandered into, oh here it is. I think this is people who are using the Occupy moniker which they should definitely not do because we all believe the Occupy movement is compromised but they are protesting for Bradley Manning which of course is related to the WikiLeaks case. Well Occupy Oakland has a new target President Obama protesters decided to occupy his campaign office on Thursday about 100 protesters calling for the release of US Army soldier private first-class Bradley Manning invaded the campaign offices they stayed inside for three hours bringing business to a halt where they were later forced out by police. RT correspondent Ramon Rondo joins us now live from LA with more Hi, Ramone so what exactly were these people protesting? What an idiot!

54:59 Well, you know Russia today has pulled out all the stops. Oh yeah oh yeah and it's pretty obvious anybody who follows this stuff closely that they're you know they you know the Russians have always been I'd say grade B propagandists, especially with the more feeble-minded. Yeah they could have really used the Curry Dvorak consulting group. Yeah they could use some help but at least they're doing it and this is all because of Syria and in fact people always say this you know Alex Jones is stealing from you guys. He said something you said and this sort of thing I'm now And I've always and you know this because you've heard me go at bullcrap You got doesn't even know who we are a lot of people don't we have big audience? But it's not like there's the crossover is the audience not the actual producers or the shows, but I'm wondering about Russia today though

55:53 Russia today has a number of things in the last few episodes that just stand out like a sore thumb as no agenda items. Really? Yeah. Well that wouldn't surprise me, but the thing is where's the donation bitches? Yeah well we could use the money. We would help them you know I don't think it would get thrown in jail for helping Russia today although i think sometime in the future that might happen to way the Russians are going...I can definitely help him with a pussy riot thing which have figured out I'm sure you figured it out too because you probably saw the same thing I did

56:29 And I'll just play the report because it was an excellent report from the CBC. None of this was on American television as far as i could tell with my limited viewing ability on the road. Yeah, why don't you play that and then...I mean..i just have a minor pussy riot thing and then we can maybe discuss what Russia Today is doing thats literally Well its all part of the same thing Don't totally say this! I think they stole this from us Okay well okay so I'm taking this is from CBC and when i saw this report, I'm like oh then it all clicked together just a little bit of research and I figured out right down to the name. I completely understand what's going on here." Handcuffs smiling shocked three members of Pussy Riot listened as a Russian judge found them guilty of hooliganism and blasphemy. A severe breach of public order the Russian judge chastised that she sentenced each two years in prison

57:23 Outside the courtroom, police were cracking down arresting dozens of protesters. We're seeing now the total collapse of the rule of law in Russia. No sooner did chess master and activist Garry Kasparov utter those words than he was hauled away by police So when I saw this, I'm like oh okay... Garry Kasparov is a known CIA operative This is known He always goes into stir up crap when it comes to the party so I'm like alright this is clearly some kind of US mission And it goes on a little bit, which they actually... CBC focuses on the wrong member of Pussy Riot because there's one that is very interesting. But this one has an interesting connotation to her as well. By the way all these girls are kind of cute in a sexy kinky kinda way. Well there is one that is actually very pretty and their ones I keep focusing on What do you think? Lesbians?

58:20 Oh, probably. Okay good that fits into my theory. Pussy Riot's lawyer Mark Fagan declared the judgment orchestrated by Russian President Vladimir Putin The trial was a farce the verdict was a farce he says This is what got Pussy Riot in trouble A flash mob type performance at Moscow's main Orthodox Cathedral imploring the Virgin Mary to throw out Putin. Polls in Russia show a majority of people were offended to see a political protest in a church One of the members of Pussy Riot is married to a Russian-Canadian In what many see as propaganda, Natya Tola Konakova is confronted by this video by the chief investigator He produced her Canadian permanent residence card and Ontario health card Okay so this was a tip off

59:15 that this girl is clearly, she has Canadian status but she's not the one you need to focus on. Actually you need to focus on a couple of the witnesses at the trial now bear in mind that the National Endowment for Democracy which receives its funding we've talked about this on the show directly from the State Department Lucifer Hillary Clippity-Clop uh... many of the the ngos and non-governmental organizations receive funding from the national endowment for democracy i.e from the u s government from the state department one of them is goal loss and go lost these were the people behind actually i have here not this isn't it's all in a show notes at four three six on any show notes dot com page from the national endowment for democracy actually ever there's a screenshot of it to make sure that doesn't go away

1:00:07 money given to GOLOS, which is the Regional Civic Organization Defense of Democratic Rights and Liberties to carry out a detailed analysis on the autumn 2010 and spring 2011 election cycles in Russia. Which will include press monitoring monitoring of political agitation and activity of electoral commissions. These guys are meant to just stir up crap, which they did as you'll recall now the defense called 13 witnesses including opposition leader Alex Navalny

1:00:49 who is a long-time operative for the US. He was a Yale World Fellow, he was a banker and he had no involvement whatsoever with Pussy Riot but they just called him up to testify but here it is Oksana Chelysheva she is a board member of the Finnish Russian Civic Forum and a steering committee of the National Endowment for Democracy. And if you look at the website for the name this outfit which is FinRosForum, so Finnish it says right here Oksana Chelysheva is a journalist and human rights activist she coordinates the Pussy Riot support campaign Hello! So here's how the meeting went

1:01:47 Lucifer's sitting there, hey! Hey I want to be president in 2016. We gotta show these Ruskies who is boss You know we're gonna mess with that Putin bitch. I tell you what... We're going to call it Operation Pussy Riot Because you know we like pussy This whole thing is orchestrated by Clinton It's a lesbian front Pussy Riot! And even fun, she's sitting there watching all the news media going pussy riot, pussy riot. Of course the riot came from her pussy I'm sorry to put it so bluntly but you can't overlook that fact that name of band is Pussy Riot they have masks on which is a fantastic meme

1:02:29 It's it really is you know, you could not think of a better one people around the world Have these masks on are playing crappy ass songs and and and of course she makes her calls to all the elites Handcuffs smiling wait a minute. That's not the one here Here's the elites Some of the biggest names in the music industry have come forward to express their support for the group. Madonna, Sting and Sir Paul McCartney have all publicly supported the jailed rockers. McCartney posted on his website a letter to the group telling them to stay strong saying he would do everything in his power to help at a cost... Get me Sir Paul on the phone! Get me- put something on your website! Madge? MADGE?! MADGE!!! PUSSYRIOT!! I'm disappointed in Madonna as she's falling for this

1:03:18 And this is just a whole F-Russia, F-Putin campaign orchestrated by the State Department by Hillary Lucifer Clippity clop Clinton with the cloven one. Because she wants to show her muscle that she can be president in 2016 and she brought down the evil Putin or whatever She's trying to prove with this. Do you have a different take because this is the way I know? No, no, I actually liked it And I think that's probably why we're seeing the Occupy Exactly Oakland group go after the Obama offices Yeah, cuz they're taking orders from Moscow yes exactly Exactly. So I mean it's not unusual for the West Coast, especially in the San Francisco Bay Area to always have these close connections to the Soviets they always have and so why is this any different? And as when since when did The Occupiers start tearing up a campaign headquarters? I know and... Not that i'm against it but you know John if you and I had sat in the meeting we would've thought this was genius too! Oh yeah right down to you know free pussy riot

1:04:22 Wow, this is so good. Yeah free pussy right free pussy riots ludicrous You know the funny thing that gets me about this whole thing it's just as one comment got to miss and it said oh yeah Well, this doesn't make any sense play the Putin blast from me clip from the BBC started taking to the streets again in Russia in the last eight months to complain about what they see as unfairness within the system. So, what Vladimir Putin's probably doing here and those that are trying to support him within this system is trying to make sure that they're playing to the constituency that felt like these women did was wrong, was blasphemy and he's making sure that he's propping up that support by doing this at the same time their trying

1:05:03 and put down this sense that the opposition have at the moment, that they can do pretty much anything. They can protest in any way that they please and get away with it. And they're trying to kind of... Yeah, and we know did you see the video of Kasparov or Kasparov? Did you see the video he's? Yelling in Russian right but he's smiling I am he but he's smiling too. Yeah They threw him in a truck But anyway know that thing that got me when I heard this clip it was part of a larger clip was wait a minute Hold on a second Let's stop depresses and point out to one obvious thing that people seem to just somehow ignored

1:05:41 The official stance of the Russian Communist Party is atheist. They tried to completely shut down all these churches and now all of a sudden they're concerned about blasphemy? Are you kidding me?! This makes no sense! It makes zero sense, the Russians are a bunch of atheists there's no state religion this is bullcrap But there's a secondary part of the plan Because we're not just going to go after the so-called blasphemy. No, no! And this is part of Hillary's plan We're gonna mobilize gay That's what she's doing

1:06:19 A court in Moscow has banned gay pride parades in the Russian capital for the next 100 years. The first Moscow Pride took place in 2006, the organizers then intended to hold the event every year but the demonstrations have been plagued by homophobic attacks and local government bans So how does this work? Wait, hold on a second. There was breaking news this morning. Oh Madonna has been sued in a class-action suit in Russia uh-huh for pro gay Sentiments that she put it she pushed out there on stage. There you go This is once again Hollywood is on board with the plan But who comes up with this?

1:07:00 I mean who, because the report doesn't state it but it sounds like...I mean who decided oh that's it 100 we just we can't do it for a hundred years. Who came up with that? Is that the law or did they did the gay pride just say let's just make it crazy and say we're not where we're standing here we're not going to do it for 100 years you can come back in 101 I mean, this is not okay. So it's not okay if gays are being suppressed... This is so orchestrated! This is an orchestration of the highest order Thank you and you know who's behind it? So I would say It's not okay If gays are being suppressed but its equally not OKAY if gays are using their gayness to call people out this way. And that's equally wrong You know what I mean

1:07:51 to orchestrate it this way. Yeah, no! This is manipulating the public for somebody's benefit. This is agendas... This whole thing is sick. Thank you that was the word I was looking for. Sick? It's sick. Or as we say... Putin has decided himself. Bullshit! I think Putin is being flanked out of flank. By the way, Putin is probably gay Well going around with his shirt on and all that. He got some overtones. I mean he a handsome man You know, it's not... I don't know. I never thought of that. Not that it matters! I'm just pointing it out. We have no agenda so that's what we can do. It's impossible-I mean who knows? There is no advertiser going to pull out for this conversation. They would though you can count on it. This kind of conversation why we do this show. You can't do a show like this

1:08:44 No, you can't have the reason to show is what it is. You can't have an open conversation and sit using these words without advertisers You know pulling out It's not brand friendly or whatever they what's that term? Yeah brand brand brand safe Did you see I'm sure you saw this. This douchebag, Toure on MSNBC? Oh what a...what a...oh that guy is a total douche bag! Did you see what he said?! Yeah, I mean basically called and brought you know. You just put yeah right look like you want to hit the clip of the clip Oh, yeah great okay? So this is and what is Toure a is he a comedian is here writer What is he you know I've seen him two or three times they put use them on MSNBC as a foil And let's see what he is let's before we go on

1:09:36 It's fine. I thought it was a talent. I thought t-o-u r e oxen a grave He is an American novelist essayist Music jerk Oh music journalist right buddy, right? Right, right he used to be used to do a hip hop show, right? Right, right, right. He serves on the rock and roll Hall of Fame nominating committee. He's the guy that nominated ABBA All right that says enough Is he the guy that nominated Abba? Yeah, he's on the nominating committee. Well he must have been. So they had nominated Abba for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

1:10:12 He's from Boston. Let's see anything else what is he written? What has he written? He's written about Lauryn Hill, DMX, Beyonce 25 Cent. Well he was a big spokesperson during the Trayvon Martin thing playing the race card. He's a racist! Yeah well yes horrible racists Yes he is so let's listen to this The host of MSNBC who later if we want to play the whole clip I'll play half defends him first plays a quote from Romney. This is Romney, interestingly enough in response to Joe Biden's they'll put you in chains quote

1:10:49 Which of course you could interpret as having racial undertones and it was interpreted that way He plays that clip and then tour a just lays into it and uses words which I'm surprised MSNBC has any advertisers That disgraced the office of the presidency, this is what an angry and desperate presidency looks like mr. President Take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago. Woo! Take it back to Chicago. Woo, take it back to Chicago woo! Please. That anger and hate So when I listen to that To me the words seem sort-of loaded But I wanted you all's thoughts Torrey what did you think about that? Yeah, I mean that really bothered me You notice he says anger twice He is really trying to use racial coding Racial coding

1:11:44 John, you are of course a racial scholar. Do you feel that there was racial coding in that comment? No! But if you want to see that I can say... when he finishes his theory, you just shake your head. Apparently Romney can't say anything without it being racially coded. And let me just point out for the new listeners we think Romney's a douche. That's not the point Right, you know but to put so yeah He says racial I just thought it was interesting to pull out the racial coding right there at the top So we're set our mindset. Oh, it's racial coding. So now I'm thinking a racial thing in the brain. So now he can encode Yeah, and access some some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man The angry black man

1:12:34 Of all the things when I heard Romney do that, I didn't think of the angry black man. I don't think in those colors This is part of the playbook against Obama The otherization he's not- The otherization! What are we on? Lost now all of a sudden? The others...the otherization Like us I know it's a heavy thing to say and I'll say it lightly but this is niggerization Okay THAT is just not okay You know, African Americans black people in America have a free pass to use the word nigger whatever they want to because that's okay. Whatever it is that's the way culture goes but that's in context of yo he's my nigga or whatever but now when you actually say niggerization I feel like your crossing a line am I incorrect in this racial scholar John C. Dvorak?

1:13:22 he used it for obvious purposes to get attention, to inform self and you know to besmirch Romney in any way can. This guy is a lowlife. But not one of us and then you are like the scary black man who we've been trained to fear... Hey! Can somebody remind Ture that Obama is the president? He won the election based on on the backs of white voters? Maybe.. Is that possible? Oh wait a minute, is he implying I guess we're now stunned, we didn't notice that Obama is black. Whoa! And Romney is going to play on the racial stereotypes because he has to alert us because we are all idiots and don't know... Oh my God, Obama's black! We've been duped! Is that what he says? That's what he said. I think so. I think that's why we are so stupid. You and I John. By the way, we have been trained to hate the Black man

1:14:15 You know, I have it right here in my US Customs and Border Protection manual. We've been trained... not just the black man but the brown man too! We've been trained this way. So, um... I was stunned Because we knew, and this was predicted and it's in the Red Book. And we knew that race was going to play a big part in these elections. And Toure is clearly a shill he has been rolled out to play this script out... ...and I'm stunned! The guy has huge gonads to do this

1:15:08 And he only is MSNBC so who gives a crap? Yeah, go do it on ABC or CBS. You know then you're a man There was some woman Young woman I should say Who did call him out on it and if you're interested in hearing that and if you saw the whole segment or not Do it yeah, and she has no very valid points Not as good as yours of course because you know then you'd be a chick with glasses on MSNBC And the host starts defending Toure. It's just uncomfortable to watch. Get this straight, just so I have this straight In addition to calling Mitt Romney something of a racist and the whole of The Base as racist Joe Biden makes a racially charged comment which you and many others on the left called divisive Mitt Romney comes out calls that comment divisive

1:15:58 But because he used the word angry, now his is the racially charged comment. Do you see how dishonest that is? Well I didn't call anybody racist. Really?! Oh I'm sorry! I must be watching some other channel... Right? Because I don't want to deal with that it's a bit- I don't wanna deal with that man like I don't deal with race. Oh certainly you are implying that Mitt Romney and The Base will respond to this dog whistle race racially charged coding. Yeah, yeah dog whistle that's another meme that's out there yeah hate Obama the angry black man? The GOP has been working with... That is so irresponsible Trey! The GOP has been working with racial codes going back to Reagan and perhaps before

1:16:44 I mean, going back to Nixon with the war on drugs and Reagan with the welfare queens. The first... Tell me about Reagan and the welfare Queens? This is unfamiliar territory for me. Never heard it! You were around right when Reagan was president? Yes. Yeah you were conscious had you read Ayn Rand at that point I had read the Fountainhead when i was in college. It's irrelevant, I'm sorry In one sitting! In one sitting! With the Willie Horton...I mean this is typical Lee Atwater politics Carl Rovner What is Lee Atwater politics? I am so unfamiliar with these terms. Lee Atwater is the equivalent but not quite as talented as that funny looking guy that Obama has what's his name the bald guy with a little mustache who's the campaign guy what's his name yeah Hitler no you know

1:17:30 You know, come on chat room give us what's that guys name? He's from Chicago. He got the bald head I know exactly who you mean. I'm drawing a blank myself Let's give him a name Adolf... Adolf Baldman. Adolph, it was Adolf something or other. No it's not Adolf! Come on help me. Do we have to consider? This is bad how could- Yes this is bad we can't come up with the simple names that we know this guy We see him all the time and think he's a douchebag He's always coming out Okay let's go Obama... Adolf Campaign manager

1:18:11 Axelrod. Axelrod! Adolf Rod, that's his name. Adolf Rod... That's not his dad's name. Yeah, Axelrod he's the Atwater and Axelrod same... Same uh... Adolph Axelrod. Right. The sleazeball. Oh this is typical Republican playbook. The whole of the party uses this racial code. He's not saying that! Oh, he just did? He is not saying that. Seriously Kim, that's what you're talking about. But this isn't... But this isn't... But this is not... Peace out, Kim! Listen listen... A revolutionary comment This is a constituency all-white party That really?! Didn't they have a black leader of the Republican committee

1:18:49 Yeah, well no he's anyone who is black who is a Republican and not black. They're white they are now white. You have two white guys in Joe Biden and Mitt Romney. Joe Biden made the overtly racial comment and has a history of making bigoted remarks. Mitt Romney was responding to that comment and yet he is the one responsible for the whole Republican history of racism in politics. But thats not what Tories say! saying that's not what he is using the playbook that Republicans have been using for decades. Is this true? For decades has this always, have we always been using race this way for decades John in the United States to Republican Party of they've always done them well

1:19:34 Well, here's what the back story is where I can see he's kind of indicating. Is that the Democrats used to use this forever during the Roosevelt administration even before that and they owned a Dixie, they were also called Dixiecrats there were the Democrats in the deep south Democrats were historically the ones who did this. The Republicans somehow stole the idea with something called the Southern Strategy that was implemented by Nixon to use racial coding, which is exactly what he said so there's some truth to it even though he does not explaining it and doesn't know himself really what it is because when

1:20:11 Reagan he says and maybe before that and then Nixon came to him so he doesn't know what he's talking about but Nixon said the Republicans managed to steal the South, the Southern Dixie crack guys turned them Republican. And abandoned the black vote down there and they ended up with a bunch of winners after they figured this out I mean Nixon was the first one and they still can usually beat the Democrats in a national campaign and there is indeed coded language which is designed to appease the Southerners only. Right In a very mild way, it's not a national thing that California most people don't respond to or even know about it or care but yeah he's I mean there he's uh... It's not a complete fabrication let's put it that way

1:21:01 You know, come on. So let's look at the fantastic work of Ture. Here is the list of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation nominees for 2012 induction. Beastie Boys, The Cure, Donovan, Rock and Roll, Donovan. Eric B and Rakim... well there you go that was Ture's vote Guns N' Roses Who? Eric B and Rakim? Yeah! Who are they?! Oh you know it well come I mean they are very famous as the founders of hip-hop which of course Ture is the hip hop expert

1:21:40 They're the founders of hip-hop? Well, um... The Eric B. and Rakim actually if I uh here Eric B. and Rakim We have to look up in the book of knowledge No no i'm gonna find you the sample that you hear in all the all the certainly in all the early hip hop stuff Uh these guys were really I don't see if there's any uh YouTube is not helping me out Um so they were really the first ones on that whole sample tip You know, kum-hey! Kum-puh-heee! And it's hard for me to do. But they're certainly deserving of some... A link from Long Island to Prairie generally considered by hip hop enthusiasts to be one of the most influential and innovative groups in the genre. Yeah During the hip hop golden age of the mid 80s to early 90s The duo was almost universally regarded as a premier MC DJ combo in Hip Hop

1:22:37 Hip-hop so that's not rock and roll. I know it's not rock and roll any means, but this is this is because you can't be discriminating against other team We might as well just have Debussy on the list You know we put him in why don't put Debbie up? Yeah, did you see your fame Mozart while you're at it yeah Joan Jett in the Blackheart's agreed heart agreed Freddie King pretty keen. Blues band, he's a blues band. Yeah blues man yeah that's not rock and roll it's blue I'll give a little bit of props because a lot of rock and roll is based on the blues but then Laura Nairo i've never heard of Laura Nairo oh yeah Laura Nairo was in fact Laura...I actually heard from Laura Nairo she's very famous uh kind of a Joan Baez type singer

1:23:18 Okay, so singing guys poignant songs you know with a Would you put her in the rock category air? No she's not a rock and roller in any way all right red hot chili peppers agreed now here Rufus and Chaka Khan Please please The small faces the faces yes agreed the spinners Really? The Detroit Spinners? Hand me down my walking cane, hand me down my hat. You know, rubber band man, rubber band man... I mean that's not rock and roll it's a rubber band man! And then Donna Summer. I mean please. Disco. Yeah disco. 100%. She is the queen of disco but i guess we can't discriminate

1:24:00 Because you know that would be so wrong. So the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has been ruined by Tourette's. No it has always been ruined, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is... No I disagree in the late... Where is Ted Nugent? Isn't the Nugent at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? No because they had Honcho at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the right wing or the left winger Jan Wenner doesn't agree with his stance on guns so he has been blacklisted from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And if anybody's a rock and roll guy it's Ted Nugent! This is why I'm very happy that when Curry Dvorak, our president and vice-president in 2013 that we will nominate without any senatorial overview because that law has now been passed its no longer necessary We'll nominate Ted Nugent as our Minister of Defense or Secretary of Defense and have a new one for you John

1:24:49 to add to our list. Secretary of Transportation, Molly Wood. Good one right? Yeah it's a good one Anyway let's get off this because that was so annoying I'd say well talking about compromise I have some Glenn Eiffel clips. Who is? Now, Glenn Eiffel... I only see one Glenn Eiffel clip One is GQ when I am that's the first one and then there's subtle Eiffel Okay got that one part 1 and part 2 Got it okay so now Glenn Eiffel said well you can play the first clip And then I want to go into this little rant about this

1:25:38 NPR, Gwen Ifill wrote a hagiography. What is that? Of Obama. What is a hagiography? Hagiography is a good word by the way. Very good word! Let me just... how do you spell that? H-A-G-I-O. Hagiography. H-A-G-I-O-R-P-H-I-O-G- R-E-A-G- O- G-R- A- P-H-Y-O-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- R- E-A-G- It refers literally to writings on the subject of such holy people and specifically to the biographies of saints and ecclesiastical... Ecclesiastical. Yeah, that's the one. Ecclesiastical leaders so she wrote a haziology about St. Obama. A hagiography! A haziology about Saint Obama? Well if you look at the modern definition it means it is a fawning biography,

1:26:33 and I idolizing the guy you're by, you know she wrote this thing it's like Obama so great all I was looking for love with him. I wish they could marry Obama That's a hate geography. Okay? Who is this woman? Gwen Ifill we heard of her as one of the anchors on on the news I'd okay yes I'd she's the rather is that when there's a there was something of a fuss when she was one of the moderators in my reader in the debates and so she has got she is so compromised about Obama she should not be on the air she's very good and what she did, she has a bunch of national shows. She recently had...she would give us..she gets hired to do like I think recently with Sibelius where you got to announce her. And she's all, there was no conflict of interest. No conflict! It's bull crap! Shes completely compromised. She's got enough skills. She should go work for one ABC. Get off PBS Let me just see, let me just sees she serves on the board of Harvard Institute Politics

1:27:32 I'm looking for something very obvious. No, she's not a...I don't think she's CFR where did she go to school? Simmons College how did she hmm okay hold on a second parents from Barbados money laundering interesting She's a Manchurian news candidate is what she is. Yeah, and we're play the first one that you've Eiffel clip he did what we had heard earlier it is interesting to see sometimes the things that are on script and things that are off script today I heard Paul Ryan people were yelling out to him no teleprompter which he was not using he says I keep hearing that everywhere I go they should probably tell them right but Romney's using a teleprompter these days but that's beside the point because

1:28:21 The other thing that Mitt Romney was trying to do was take charge, as we mentioned of the Medicare issue. And so he set out to answer questions about his Medicare plan but ended up this is yesterday reviving the debate over how much he's paid in income taxes Okay. So she brings this up, she wants to keep that Democrat meme going about Romney and his income taxing okay so she does that in an ad-libbed part of the show. Later in this he's having this discussion with this woman who just thinks everything is hilarious and plays Eiffel Part 1 where she drops this little tidbit which is bullcrap right at the beginning of a segment and it goes on for another 15 minutes

1:29:05 And you can see, look on her face because somebody's yelling in her ear after she says this. False! Now this raises a couple of different questions one is that Paul Ryan put out his tax returns from the last two years late tonight and he paid more than Mitt Romney paid in taxes just to be for the record makes a lot less money also but why? Okay wait a minute explain that She said that Paul Ryan paid more taxes than Mitt Romney even though it makes less money That's not true. He might have paid a higher percentage, but not more money. And that is when we watch about 10 more minutes and you can see the look on her face that somebody in the control room is screaming at him So let us just explain this for second because I think it is important because you do not get this analysis anywhere else but on The Best Podcast In The Universe When you file your taxes

1:29:55 you can do it a number of ways and one way if you prefer to go for a schedule C, I believe it is. You can make deductions so for instance... If you go somewhere for work you can deduct your travel expenses and you deduct that off the top before you get your tax rate right? Is that am I saying because I'm not an expert in this. There's a lot different ways going about this and its possible that You could pay a higher rate and have more deductions or pay a lesser rate and have less deductions. Or you can have some professionals... So why is it, let me ask you this? Why is it John that Willard Romney paid 13% over his income tax? Is that because he had a lot of deductions? Well I think there's a lot of interest income He's not working for one thing! He's got no job

1:30:47 So he's, where is all his money coming from? It's either from selling investments which is capital gains. Which is very low right now or he has got interest income or other you know some sort of retirement money coming from Bain or whoever He doesn't have a job so his interest is going to be way down. He just getting by Well I don't know about that but anyway she makes this assertion the guy meanwhile... I'm sorry I have to interrupt again Is that therefore unfair? No, it's not unfair and that's not the point of what I'm trying to make here. No, I know that but i just want to make sure we understand so if you have no job yet you have a hundred million dollars It is not unfair that you pay less taxes because you have no job. Is that... If I am.. yeah okay here I am let me just put my... It's important! Do need to understand this. Yeah

1:31:38 God forbid with a hundred million dollars in the bank and so every once in awhile I take some money out or I find somewhere, run it through business that I started just as scam businesses. Get some hookers. Whatever! I got a hundred million bucks and let's say well you know everything is kind of paid for, i'm just getting literally just getting by. Not spending the 100 million dollars in spending what I need to get by and most that's right off. Right so then my taxes are going to be next to nothing if I get both it feels like this guy has got $100 million he's already paid taxes on that hundred million dollars that's whats left whatever the heck was that he had before which was probably 250 million dollars or 200 million who knows why? It's beside the point

1:32:18 If you don't have a job, you're not really going to be paying a lot of taxes no matter how much money you have. And that's the situation Romney is in he really hasn't had a job for 10 years. Great! So ten years of his taxes are gonna be ludicrous they're gonna be crazy I think the point you made is he has already paid taxes on that money Yeah. All right, just to get you back on track because I did you pull up? I'm going to pay play the clip again where she incorrectly states that Paul Ryan paid more in taxes where it's not true monetarily could never have been more or could have been but probably wasn't but it was a higher percentage and then I'll let you go false

1:32:54 Now this raises a couple of different questions. One is that Paul Ryan put out his tax returns from the last two years late tonight and he paid more than Mitt Romney paid in taxes just to be for the record makes a lot less money also but why? Makes a lot less money also, so she's pushing this meme. He made a lot less money This is the demean that Obama administration wants to promote which is that you know? It's unfair because somebody's paying more or less or whatever and she is like part of this scheme This is why our podcast is so much better than these compromised shows and this is, and you've seen this. You've seen the numbers The PBS News Hour is considered the least of the compromised news shows Yeah my uncle Don watches it and says this is truth

1:33:40 It's close to it, but do you still have this subtle bullcrap and this woman is part of this scheme? And so meanwhile she has an IFB and I have to say I cannot see because she got hair over her That's a little thing that there's a little thing that you haven't If your anchor on any these big stations. You have a thing in your ear. You'll see a lot of that Go watch newsroom go watch newsroom. You understand guys. It's a little curly thing at his end design It's designed to have a sound. It has a little curly thing and it actually has the sound thing, and the sound goes through the little curly thing. It's like a little curly...it's like a pigtail! It's weird because I don't see why they just can't use a wire but they won't use a wire. It's essentially the same technology that airplanes used with those tubes for your headphones. The tube!

1:34:27 Why? I get the biggest kick out of this but why don't want to electrocute the guy or something like that. I don't know okay it's a two- So anyway so she's got an IFB and you can see that she's getting a thing That's not true. You gotta change it, you gotta interrupt yourself! So it goes on for almost 10 minutes a lot of people could have turned out and then she follows up with this with her correction By the way I just want to clear it up I said that Paul Romney paid more he actually paid a higher rate than Romney paid obviously he didn't pay more in taxes so what do you do about that because we also heard... So what did he do about that? He obviously didn't pay more because again, there's the meme Romney is rich and you're not. Obviously! Anyway... Hey I- You know what? One thing is for sure We obviously did not pay any more than either of those guys.

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1:53:56 Uncle John and uncle Adam. Well, you know I got a gotta adjust it a little bit she's 10 Hey listen man, this is good yeah listen listen listen listen so we're on our way back to Tejas and We've got some crazy crazy crap going on in Texas right now if you had not heard about it We are all going to die Because the West Nile virus is rampant. I guess in Texas a couple people got it. Well, they're spraying the place with poison! Yeah so this is...I've done a little bit of research on this and let me actually put this under here we go Let me first play the report This I believe is CBS

1:54:57 and they bring on some guy from the Department of Preventative Medicine, and he's going to tell us exactly how this works. And there is a historical context to this which I'm hoping you will recall. I've read so far this year paradoxically because those areas have had a drought and you would have thought that the drought would have inhibited development of the mosquitoes but as it turns out in a drought You have pools, limited pools of water that draws the mosquitoes but also draws the birds. The mosquitoes bite the birds become infected and then bite humans." So is this automatically like a bird flu? The mosquitoes bite the birds they get whatever, the West Nile virus... How does a mosquito even bite a bird? It's like hey bird!

1:55:48 Come here, bitch. I'm gonna bite you! I don't know mosquitoes bite birds apparently this was very informative to me and so paradoxically the drought has actually accelerated the spread of West Nile check this out So what do you say when you hear that? Well there isn't much sign that this drought is going to end anytime soon Yes, well they all know about you and that stick yeah Thank you. I'm coming with my stick, baby! And by the way we have something called winter so the drought will end this is not like... We got fall... It's never going to end in the history of mankind. Global warming! We're going to die! So what are your fears for this spread of the virus? How much worse could it get?

1:56:25 Well, it could get worse and that's why everybody is urging preventive measures. Preventative measures? Listen up! To search around the house for any pools of standing water where... John! The house?! Do you have a pool of standing water in your living room by any chance? What!? Yeah look at make sure you don't have- Your house?? Yeah what do you- Eww there's a gla- Hey! Standing water!! You left a glass of water in your room! Clean up your room! Mosquitoes might breed use insect repellent. Oh, this is great advice! If you're going out and about particularly in the evenings or early morning take your hookers wear long sleeve garments and long trousers This is so I'm listening to this like okay they're not even gonna sell a vaccine to me what is this? What's going on?

1:57:15 and just use insect repellent constantly. Are we talking epidemic proportions here? I bathe in it! Well, it's certainly a large outbreak and a large outbreak is often called an epidemic. It's a bit of a slippery slope. And also one of those sensational words you have to be careful about using... That's why we just use it over and over again! If you have been bitten by a mosquito that happens to have been infected with West Nile virus What are the symptoms that you would get and what kind of treatment is available? Now this is very interesting. John, do you know the symptoms of the West Nile virus and what it actually is and how you die from it? It's like a mild flu

1:58:03 Well, the symptoms are first of all fever. You can have chills feeling poorly aches and pains And that may be all but a small proportion of people go on to develop West Nile encephalitis now That's the key word Encephalitis that you don't want that? That's the keyword that is the encephalitis is basically ahead Brain swelling zombie I'm thinking zombie virus. That's what encephalitis is, listen... The older you are John the more likely that is to occur and of course that's an infection that involves the brain And you lose uh.. The function to think You become the walking dead! And you can become comatose Yeah And thats obviously the most serious kind of infection Yes The treatment is supportive care at the moment

1:58:58 Do you feel better? Most people... supportive care. Over 50. Let me send you a card, you've got the zombie virus. one time or another in their lives. This is not a problematic situation. Well, essentially we take care of you while your body fights off the virus. Okay Dr Shafni mentioned the kind of things that individuals can do but in Texas they're already taking measures at a state level they want to start spraying some other cities I understand from the air haven't done that since Lyndon Johnson was president now this is very interesting to me and hoping you can add some historical perspective as a now you have your doctorate in history

1:59:36 Lyndon B. Johnson sprayed the population of, I believe at the time Houston, Gemini was launching and multiple people at Mission Control, the way i understand it had encephalitis so not even necessarily West Nile virus but encephalitis and he just went ahead and just sprayed the whole population and I will say...I've been to Houston! I think..I think it had effect What? Houston's always been that way. What the hell happened and you know this spraying is an issue now This happens all the time do you ever take an international flight in a good old days where two guys with masks on never had that happen I've had it happen twice

2:00:23 They, and I've seen it before. There's in one of the movies...I think it was one of the Crocodile Dundee films or one of these films. And they spray the passengers? You're in a big 747 and they come down the aisle and they spray everybody! This is the same thing that happened with the bird flu. They were spraying everybody on airplanes Yeah, well there's some malathion just in case there was a random mosquito. They used to spray the population of California routinely for all kinds of things because we're an agricultural state and we don't need any aggravation. John, this is not something that bothers me. But spraying insecticides can't be healthy for you?

2:01:02 It's a very low, no it can't be. Thank you! But it is extremely low, low, low...it's like if you stay inside for this is not something that people should fret about Oh yeah? Well why don't you book a ticket to Dallas and go stand there with your mouth open That's not what you're supposed to do by the way. Oh, oh okay well... Stand there with your mouth open! Or say hey why don't you pour some in? Why don't just give me some straight? No this is not the idea What are you supposed to do? Just stay inside? Stay inside for a few hours So we just shut down the city of Dallas It wouldn't hurt. So they, um... Someone tried to file an injunction They always do. Somebody's just, you know, hand-wringing old lady or something like that Well listen to the response of this from the local Dallas elites Injunction has been filed I'm told by the emergency manager for the state of Texas Oh! That wasn't an old lady John it was the emergency manager for the state of Texas How did you know that is not an old lady?

2:02:00 Could be an old man. And the state's lawyers, as long as... State's lawyers? Is that an old lady? Could be. As we're under this state of emergency and these disaster declarations this spring will go forward We're going to take the steps necessary today to ensure that the home rule cities have the capability To protect their citizens What can you tell us about the injunction? Where was it filed? Who filed it on behalf of who? I don't know. I have not read the document He should have just said some old lady I know it exists and I didn't need to see it to get on the calls with my state counterparts And begin the work so you don't have to go through any sort of special legal Wranglings to be able to forge ahead The states top lawyers and our top lawyers are looking at that but the states top lawyers are telling me that we do not

2:02:48 And I'll be meeting with my lawyers in the next 120 seconds, as soon as these cameras turn on. And the purpose of this clearly is to get this spraying to stop? Yes and what the CDC tells me as far that goes in most hard hit areas Is uh... The delay in spraying can be counted In a number of West Nile cases and potential deaths So we're not gonna let that happen Sooo..in other words uuhhh hmmm SHUT UP! Now, I wanted to know who was doing the spraying. Is this the state of Texas? And they showed on the news two aircraft...two King Air aircraft and of course it's stupid enough to show that to me and i see detail number November 7th 2 Juliet and if you put that into Google it comes up with Dynamic AV Lease Inc in Bridgewater Virginia

2:03:38 Virginia yeah, and it was a what's the tail number again November 7 to Juliet I Do you mean? I can just skip ahead for you One of their big clients is CDC so it is the CDC who is spraying now. I asked you I would have guessed after this new that gap But I ask you do you still feel comfortable if the CDC is? I'm sorry I said, I think the CDC's compromised. Thank you! Based on some of this stuff that has been going on... I think the local authorities should make these decisions for their citizens but yeah but they're not during the days of the spraying in California was a state of California well this is not this is and this is the government this is the CDC now what the feds what do they got to do with it why did they care about because it's the zombie virus and they're trying to stop it get it okay

2:04:30 Hey citizen, put your head back open your mouth and let the spray in. It's good for ya! The chat room is saying the fluoride is not working so they have to do that to spray I find this abhorrent. Yeah, apparently you do yeah well i'm You know what if all of a sudden we have West Nile virus in Austin? Hey, what this won't happen in California? I think encephalitis is Could be the zombie virus that everyone's been talking about but we've heard a lot about that on this tour people are talking About the zombie bars your head swells up you become here let me see symptoms include headache fever confusion drowsiness

2:05:13 And zombie-like behavior. It says it right here on Wikipedia. It does not! Convulsions, tremors hallucinations and memory problems None of this is very good. Yeah no it's definitely not good to get that. That's a bad thing I'm sorry? Don't mind finish off your little thing because we have one last...I have a crackpot add to this Well then you're done Oh well I'll have more about spraying in vaccines so why don't you add your crack Spraying and vaccines? Yeah add your crack go ahead No mine's about UFOs oh okay um So this is the news report that we've probably, I hope you've heard by now. Military officials say more soldiers committed suicide last month than any other month on record The 38 suicides include active and non-active duty soldiers in the Army National Guard and Reserve And the army has confirmed 120 suicides so far this year Last month Secretary of Defense said the US military was facing an epidemic of suicides

2:06:09 I wonder how many are actually suicides and have their own cover-ups for guys who were assassinated for coming into the COO and saying, hey you know i'm getting sick of guarding these poppy fields for the douchebags. Who are these CIA guys? What are these guys? I'll tell you one thing though if everyone at this point in America is a veteran or knows a veteran or has one in their family just talk to them Just listen to what they have to say and then think very hard about sending more of our boys and girls into Sam to go kill brown people. Clearly these are very smart, motivated individuals who are coming home very upset

2:06:52 and disturbed about what's going on. This is historical, and it's of epidemic proportions as they say in the news there but of course we have a solution The army is so brilliant I'm glad that you're chemical engineer John because he'll be able to help me with this solution that our military industrial complex has come up with cause if you feel depressed If you feel like killing yourself We've got the answer Volunteers at Coffee Strong near Joint Base Lewis-McChord are guiding veterans to health and financial benefits. Did your vision dramatically change in a service? And Jim Morrison, a 65-year old Navy vet says he needs plenty of help from diabetes to joint pain Well there's 22 pills that I take every day But he doesn't take anything for his post traumatic stress Talking to me is more help

2:07:43 to deal with it than medication is. So what does he think about the recent move by the Army to study a nasal spray that could ward off suicidal thoughts? I'm not buying it! The army IS buying it, spending three million dollars to study a suicide-stopping neurochemical called TRH delivered in a nose spray doctors say TRH taken nasally could decrease depression immediately not after weeks of waiting like with antidepressants such as Zoloft And immediate help is needed as 26 US soldiers took their lives in July, the highest number for any month in Army history. Suicide has been a concern of army leaders for many years Shut up asshole! Thyrotropin releasing hormone and this is not something new This has been around for a long time They've done studies since the 80's on this

2:08:41 And I'm very, very concerned about this development because this of course will also be introduced to your children eventually. You know if your kid feels down then you just take a shot! Here we have a report which...I couldn't get the full report from 1984 in the from the neuropsychobiology International Journal violent suicidal behavior and the thyrotropin releasing hormone a clinical outcome study abstract a relation between abnormal response of thyroid stimulating hormone to Thyro tropon releasing hormone and a personal history of violent suicidal behavior was observed in a sample of 60 depressive women

2:09:23 Patients with a blunted THS response to TRH were also at greater risk for the subsequent suicide. There was no relationship between TSH response to TRH and age, severity of depression and polarity of the illness." This sounds just like crazy! So we have the, you know the problem is of course we're at war that no one understands and it's just to move drugs and protect pipelines. Explain that to people and then make them let them make a informed decision whether they want to go ahead and pretend to be on a patriotic mission No instead were going to give them a nasal spray which sends your thyroid into hyperdrive

2:10:04 Are you familiar with this process? No, no. It sounds like something some of these drug experimenters would like to be playing with Well I'm very very concerned about this If you... it's on the book of knowledge TRH and right off the bat here it says TRH has been used clinically for the treatment of Spinosarbellar degeneration and disturbance of consciousness in humans You're going to give this to troops Yeah, that way they won't have any conscience. Right! No conscience. Maybe just shoot another guy. That crazy guy who shot a bunch of people and then he came back to the base and then... How you doing Bill? Pretty good And then he went out and shot some more guys and now he's under arrest Hey Bill have some nasal spray I need some of my nasal spray I gotta go out, i'll be right back Remember that guy? Yeah it could totally be the nasal spray It literally says

2:11:05 disturbance of consciousness. What's conscience or conscious? Consciousness, oh no it says consciousness so that means you'd be kind of hallucinating while your yeah you're in a funk here you know yeah and hallucinatory state like when half asleep and then you kinda dream travels across the medium eminence to the anterior pituitary gland, via the hypothesis seal portal system, where it stimulates the release of thyroid stimulating hormone

2:11:58 And excess levels inhibit dopamine, which then stimulate the release of prolactin which in turn decreases GNRH. Yeah yeah give me a double dose of that! TRH has antidepressant and anti-suicidal properties and in 2012 the US Army awarded research grant concerning It's gonna be given with shamanics and some of these other Shantix, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, that's what you do all yeah You having bad dreams out here just so you'd be so doped up on god knows What why doesn't Wikipedia just say its poison? Why don't they just put that in there? Why all these complicated? Put it in see how long it lasts

2:12:53 Before the drug companies are getting an RSS by they don't know this you go edit some of these these monitor pages on Wikipedia As soon as you put one thing in at an RSS Alert goes right out to the guy that's monitoring it. Yeah, he changes it within five minutes has changed back now I know it's amazing I know Although you can slip the stuff in casually carefully amongst a lot of edits like you go and do a bunch of editing Of like looks at grammar and some these other things, then you slip into zinger And then they might not notice Everybody's out on the web. We have a jobs jobs job situation these days and everybody starting with The Queen

2:13:34 The Queen, the Lizard Queen of Gitmo Nation East is putting their help wanted ads on the web. To be into the chance to being the Royal Household's newest recruit you'll need to be ready to assist in maintaining vehicles as well as driving them. Expect a starting salary around 23 thousand pounds and most importantly he only the ability to deploy tact and diplomacy when necessary This is the... to become the queens driver Twenty-three thousand pounds you had to be able to have tact and diplomacy, and she's put this on our website Did they give me a free room in board that doesn't sound like enough money. They live in London I think you live at the palace? I think you get a shack when you live in the garage in the garage You live in there with a little room in the back is you can sleep in the car

2:14:18 Listen I love the royal reporter just listen to the speech impediment the woman has So much room in Buckingham Palace palace you could kind of power there then pass princess and yeah exactly Isn't it odd that this is being advertised to anyone? Well, this isn't opening of the household. We've seen more and more jobs being advertised on the website that increasingly it's open to all of us I mean there are quite a lot of us who could qualify for this job at clean driving license and most of us think we're pretty tactful so... It is a very open job There was a job advertised in June

2:15:00 a royal household manager and also we've got one, there's a few up at the moment. There is a butcher in Windsor and payroll manager so... Hey John! John! What are we doing this stupid podcast for? We can get a gig- Yeah I could be butchered in Windsor. I can be an accountant. The household is really opening itself to the best candidates not necessarily people who have been corks all their lives and often drivers protection officers do often come from police ranks and army ranks. Ranks! Ranks! They cant say the r these elitists. Ranks It's really weird. Yeah, it was funny I said that to a Western interviewer on ABC. She can't say the R. It's like wanks. So already secured your vetted? Yeah it's code! And they have had the first... It's code from a dick. ...but the driving training that the average driver hasn't had is different now. That's what you'd need though wouldn't you because- I'd like to be a beef eater

2:15:50 Hey-oh. So, they're not the only ones advertising on the web have you heard about the Al Qaeda's advertising on the webs? Oh that would make sense now where do you want to go yeah now I do want to mention well actually all deconstruct this for you but the CBS has Gail Shepard who of course is she is a journalist Because she investigated Oprah for all those years so apparently she's a journalist now on the CBS News in the morning and there's this one... Was she an investigator or a hagiographer? I think a hagiographer would be more appropriate. And what's interesting is that all of this propaganda comes from one place, and this is SITE. We've talked about SITE before, S-I-T-E, you should look at their website actually

2:16:44 The site intelligence group. They're the ones that translate all these websites and monitor websites, the jihadist websites who never have a link to the website by the way And if you just it's a site intelgroup dot com and this is totally... so they monitor two things Al Qaeda and white supremacists those are the two things they monitor So they've always got their jihadist news in there crazy white guy news And they have social network jihad and it's just the whole thing is nuts, but they never have a link to the site. They've got videos and pictures and this thing has CIA operation written all over it so they bring in for this interview where Al-Qaeda apparently is now on the web recruiting They bring in a shill who was the former assistant national intelligence secretary or advisor I don't know...a shill

2:17:41 And it's just a meme fest of idiocy. One of the most feared offshoots of Al-Qaeda is looking for a few good terrorists. That's a throwback to A Few Good Men, how'd you like that riding everybody? Hey Bob! Good writing on that intro thanks buddy. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula launched... Oh too bad he messed it up couldn't he can this guy not read an online ad campaign recruiting some... An online ad I think they bought the AdWords in their online ad campaign, Google AdWords. Suicide bombers to attack Western targets Senior correspondent John Miller a former deputy director of national intelligence is with us this morning good morning John Good morning What do we know about this website and these posts?

2:18:24 Well, this is the Shumak al-Islam website. This is one that we watch very closely in the intelligence community watches it very closely but also key people in the world of terrorism watch it very closely. John do you watch this website very closely? We're in the world of terrorism I never heard it meant to course not on June 3rd when we first see a posting that says The goals are, meaning the targets, personalities or individuals who fight Islam and Muslims. Economic targets, military targets media targets... That means you Gail! That was up there saying for lovers of martyrdom people who want to kill themselves This is their translation by the way

2:19:08 This is their actual translation of whatever, of a site they don't link to. And it said you would deal directly with the Al Qaeda leadership and their media committee to do your martyrdom videos... This sounds like a Web 2.0 company, the way he's translating it. To get the word out after you're attacked... Now this was followed up in recent days in August by another posting and that one really reinforced the message You don't need passports or travel tickets to confront the enemy and kill them as they are around you on your right and on your left so what they're really saying there is You don't need to come to Yemen. Al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula doesn't need to train you, we can train you online with the instructions... It's a webinar John! A webinar? It's a webinar, al Qaeda Webinar apparently. This is bull crap. But your targets are Germany France Great Britain and of course more than anything the United States Yes of course. Because Al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula that horseshoe in Yemen is the one that has the ticket direct from Osama Bin Laden when he was live saying you take the lead and attack

2:20:11 I don't recall that. I don't recall Osama Bin Laden giving the ticket to Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula That doesn't ring true It's bullcrap! Yeah, well duh So far these ads have gotten 3500 hits What is he looking at? The server log? How does he know this?! Because it's their, their server apparently. It was generating some... Exactly! Thank you. So what's a hit? Listen, does it seem odd- By the way he's even before he's wed point oh point one Oh 1.0 where we still talked about hits no no page views douche

2:20:49 Or impressions? How about the social graph, can't you come up with anything better than hits? They gotta sack this guy. Now listen to this... Well, this website is pretty security conscious Because you know we put all the SSL certs in ourselves for one You need to apply to get on then they are you are vetted by some very security conscious people who work there Checking your background and so on what is it? Is this Symantec? I mean, who's running this outfit? And then if you do get it... Yeah. I know but that's why it's important to listen to us so people know its bullcrap and that this is three minutes of bull crap! If your not active all the time, if your not in the discussions, if you don't sound like you're talking about it, if your not fluent in Arabic... Where was this played? CBS

2:21:41 The compromise CBS take you off pretty quickly because they're very wary about intelligence services workers and others so We also know there's been a number of attacks and significant things including the attack on the CIA base where people connected to this website Were involved, so it's got some credibility. Is there not always John to shut the website down? That's the great debate which is No, no we only do that for people who sell fake Rolexes and torrents. If Al Qaeda was torrenting their martyrdom videos we'd shut it down but no the great debate is we can't shut them down of course not because why because? Do you take these off this without saying who what government this website has been taken down before but they pop up very quickly on another server sometimes in another country that's a nature of internet but the real argument is do you do better by collection of intelligence

2:22:32 by monitoring them to stop an attack than you do by trying to knock them down and they have a fireman. Maybe they should do that with the Rolexes too. John Miller, thanks To continue the propaganda It's unconscionable this bullcrap This is what... And people will sit in their breakfast tables looking at Gale going Yeah man, Al Qaeda's They're recruiting people who could be my neighbor Well let's get into something more interesting So how about playing my clip Which I'm surprised you didn't play. Oh, it's not... I'm only on the road driving through mud but okay, surprising UK air traffic controller to BBC 4 Yeah no, I found this You know about this? Of course I know about this of course But you know I... I just want to play it and don't want to talk about it Very quickly my children asked me to ask you this question Have you or any of your staff ever been unable to explain flying object? Excellent! Best question

2:23:29 Is there a procedure? Is there a procedure, come on. Well occasionally there are objects that I identify that don't sort of conform to normal traffic patterns and not just from UK point of view but from around the world. I have to say it's not something that occupies huge amounts my time though Come on... That is yes! How many? That is a Yes typically one month or something along those lines One month?! These guys are buzzing with UFOs Richard Deacon, thank you very much. Yeah why would I play that clip? Because I know this! Ah okay so let's skip this whole discussion and let's move to the Russia Today people copying us So there was a thing on Russia Today about Baluchistan Balochistan which i think you brought up very early in the game Yes Balochistan, very key region in Pakistan for the pipeline The port for the Chiners

2:24:26 So this woman comes out, some analyst. She's got a big map and I've never seen her before and everything she says was stolen from our show. What? And I don't say this lightly by the way you know that I think most of that is bullcrap. No no because to pull out the plagiarism card is something we typically reserve for idiots like Fareed Zakaria So here we go and then this is right about halfway through her talk she drops this bomb. Has RT been listening to NA? Got it. Powers have interests, and China one of them. Alushistan is sitting at the crossroads of oil and gas pipelines coming from Central Asia Iran and elsewhere The Iran-Pakistan pipeline that took Afghanistan Pakistan India pipeline not to mention that

2:25:15 Balochistan itself has its energy resources. Besides, it's water port and right here is the access point for Chinese commercial shipping to the Indian Ocean and on to Africa But all the violence and instability there doesn't make it an easy place for business. Investigative journalist Eric Dracer tells me some world powers might be interested in keeping it that way. First of all, we have various indigenous terrorist organizations operate inside of Balochistan, the Baloch Liberation Army, Jundala, the Baloch Republican Army, Lashkar-e Tayyiba just to name a few. Jundala is an organization that for decades has been focused on destabilization of Iran now

2:26:03 The confluence of these various terrorist organizations, of course is not coincidental. This has a direct relation to the interests of the United States and the Western powers vis-a-vis blocking the Chinese destabilizing Pakistan and part of waging their covert war against Iran in hopes of not just encircling that country but to collapse it from outside Yeah, I noticed they don't mention Russia and Gazprom's role in all of this. No that is what they leave out! This is Russia Today which is turning into more and more a propaganda machine. Let me just say one thing about this woman...I think you should be delighted You should be really really happy because if I get killed you can continue the show it'll just be called Buzzkill & Pussy Riot It's gonna be fantastic The problem is that I don't think this is her material so she probably useless to put

2:26:59 Put it mildly play pipeline wars part two, and then I'll go on to the thing that closed the deal Oh now this next clip on what? I think they're doing pipeline Wars part 2 Yeah, the US government denies having any connection with Joondala and Baluch terrorist organizations Although CIA memos leaked recently say the Israeli Mossad recruited Joondala members quote under the nose of u.s Intelligence officers end of quote as far as other terrorist groups like the Baloch liberation front There are a few people in us Congress who expressed readiness to support the separation of Belushi stun from Pakistan hello

2:27:36 Oh, good morning. Three months ago on no agenda." Like Dana Rohrbacher from the House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs. Anything that's coming up right now that the Pakistanis don't like about our attitude is being caused by actions taken by their government As far as who could benefit from instability in Balochistan most experts say it's extremists of all kinds Mainly al-qaeda and its affiliates and as well as the Taliban they certainly have in interest in meaning instability But some also see baluchistan is a key square on the geopolitical chessboard The United States knows that cannot compete with China economically or industrially So they have to stunt China's development through these various subversive tactics

2:28:22 They're willing to engage with various terrorist networks that they've had for many, many years if not decades in order to try and make the Chinese stall in their economic development. So according you pipe wars are real? and creating instability is one of the instruments to gain advantage. But wouldn't it backfire? The terror, violence, instability... Could it backfire in terms of terrorist reciprocation against the United States? This is entirely possible but that didn't prevent the United States in the late 1970s from financing and supporting the Mujahideen against the Soviets

2:29:00 allegations that some global powers may be stoking violence in a place like Balochistan for their geopolitical interests are quite disturbing and raises the question whether pipeline wars are reality. In Washington, I'm Ganesh Chakyan. Wow. I knew that would get you! Now here's the thing that is funny, it doesn't work unless you bring in Gazprom and then you can really wrap these stories up with some drama there is no drama its just a bunch of oh the US has a bunch of troublemakers this is not a story this is not an narrative This is RT trying their best to do propagandizing on behalf of government on behalf of Putin With half the story? And not pulling it off!

2:29:45 the story and it's so obvious that it's crap. Now here is the thing... No, no I can't handle more. This you have to listen to this. This is the clip where RT uses the term. Yeah yeah I got it. You gotta hear this because when I heard it nobody uses this term but us! You're not gonna hurt me with this are you? Hit It! and smile for the CIA. The US reportedly spies on its own, connecting all surveillance cameras nationwide but tech experts fear the system's being abused. Nobody uses that term except us! Alright alright Mr Oil I know you're listening please parse the logs

2:30:40 If anything comes from the Russia Today offices in Washington DC, we need to block that access. Because look the way this show works you can it's open source you can do whatever you want people make products they make challenge coins they may stickers and apps and then they toss us a nickel or shekel or two how about some of those Putin rubles baby come on don't be freaking boner I don't care if you steal our material, techno experts. Pipeline wars. Now normally as you know because i have defended this process over the years saying that's bullshit nobody is stealing our material that way thats not stolen its just coincidence. This is totally stolen! Blatant, blatant. Normally I take this as a compliment but that's no how our model works

2:31:35 You know Yeah, where's that oligarch money? Yeah about that rich guy once in New Jersey nets that guy Abraham a half like a million dollars and he wouldn't even notice And we're just handing them their show prep And then of course they blow it because they don't have the backstory, they don't know what the techno expert thing where it stems from. They just throw it out because it sounds good. It's terrible. Russia today is really... by the way they're going through just a tonne of different hosts or hostesses I've never seen the same one twice Well, and look. And they can solve that too? Yes! Hire us hire the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group and we'll at least help you will bleach him We'll give them better names I think what the problem is is they got to word that were into the blonde theory Oh they don't like that? I haven't seen a blond on that show The guy who's the producer of the guy who was ahead of Russia today obviously has some thing about brunettes That is just so unconscionable Well thats not okay

2:32:40 All right, let me give them their next show prep. Hello Russia today. This is the dog whistle for the Russians. Hello Russia today Here's your next show prep okay? I'll give it to you It's a gimme and they're gonna use this so before Michelle Bachman, which is not just Michelle Bachman but actually the intelligence committee Congressional Committee said hey you know we have a few questions about Huma Abedin. Huma Abedin, not Huma Abedin, Huma Abedin

2:33:21 Who is Hillary Clinton's and and the people ask they don't know why we call her clippity-clop You know, she if you ever listen to her walking in or high heels it. You actually hear her hooves Clicking on the marble of the State Department so that's why she's clippety-clop And so we have questioned way before anyone else came up with this If she might be an Islamist with an agenda mainly Of the Muslim Brotherhood And I have yet another little chunk here that has said that you will not hear on Russia Today until after this program is posted apparently and we have some some actual Archive.org wayback machine proof of this when Homa Abedin returned to the United States around 96 she simultaneously landed a job working for Hillary Clinton, but also the

2:34:19 Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs known as the IMMA and she joined the Muslim Students Association Executive Board, and you can see in the show notes at 436.nashownotes.com that she was the...oh I have to get the picture here She was I think the Associate Director and this Muslim Students Association is a 100% bona fide Muslim Brotherhood front group. And I could go through all the documentation, and I could show you how it works which you can follow for yourself but i thought would be more interesting to play a piece from the Muslim Brotherhood Fronted Muslim Student Association there was uh... this one guy Amir Abul Malik

2:35:14 And he presented at a conference of the MSA, which Homa Abedin was an executive director. Assistant Executive Director and he ends his...and remember this is about cultural jihad it's not about killing people its cultural jihad to change the ways of the West Which I am really starting to believe that this is something that is for real So they do a prayer at the end of their meeting And I think that, and the prayer is in English. I think that we should listen to the prayer and see if we feel like this has core American values Does that sound fair John? I'm all ears Let's recite it along with him Well i don't want go that far No I will The brothers and sisters who are here You know we have brothers and sisters who are here today amongst us Who some of their family is locked up

2:36:07 on secret evidence and we say to y'all hang in there, hang in there. Hang in there and we will continue make do it for you alright don't give up all right? We have to embrace them let's do the prayer and not kick him to the curb we have to embrace that Y'all go back and get to work. We will end with a pledge of allegiance alright so You will repeat after me inshallah Allah is my lord Allah is my Lord Islam is my life. The Quran is my guide, the Sunnah is my practice, Jihad is my spirit, righteousness is my character and paradise is my goal for I enjoin what is right, I forbid what is wrong, I will fight against oppression and I will die to establish Islam." Hell yeah!

2:36:59 I will die, I will die to establish Islam. Hello everybody! Okay so give us that again where is that from? The Muslim Students Association of which Homa Abedin was an associate director this is their prayer at the end of their little conference Well thats pretty damn good. I'm sorry you gave me Clipper today For that annoying clip, so I'm gonna do a double clip of the day. Thank you very much. That's very kind Yeah, Jim that's a gem I mean it's just my people listen to this show so they can go what what? I will die and we'll die yeah, so You know I'm just saying she is the assistant

2:37:56 Staff director for Hillary Clinton. She is the body man as they call it in The Washington's and there's a lot of this man There's the Muslim Public Affairs Council has the Hollywood Bureau They have a music video which is kind of funny I was gonna play that for ender show clip, but you want to do something else right friend or show? You want to do the Assange mom blast UK thing Well, you can play the blast and then play the music clip and then play a couple of other things. And we're outta here because I want to give you kudos on the air for doing great little mix-ups mash ups whatever you wanna call them advertising at the very end of this show. You've done a good job! Okay so we have Julian Assange's mom blasting the UK let me just make sure i got it all lined up here for my excellent mini mix

2:38:45 followed by the Muslim Public Affairs Council Hollywood Bureau which is a rap video denouncing Republicans and conservatives view of Muslims, which of course is reverse psychology. I just thought it was funny you have to see the video because the guy's just total douche well that'll do it and then on Thursday we hopefully will be back in Texas in Austin And we will... Then we let the rain stick rip. We rip the rain stick! and I'm very excited about that because i really have a feeling we have some power this could it is just possible John that we have a magical rainstick It's not beyond the realm of... We'll see. I'll tell you what if the rainstick works then I will become a believer in the Mars probe. Are you challenging fate? What is this?! Anything is possible

2:39:47 Alright everybody, we have the No Agenda Producer Update coming with Ms. Mickey, Mr. Oil, Gitmo Slave and a cast of thousands on the stream noagendastream.com Stay tuned for that I think you'll like it Get a totally different perspective On the trip which could be very different from the way I perceived it Particularly the manly off-roading we did Which I could not have done without my co-pilot Miss Mickey on the maps And are you doing the tweets today, John? Not that I know of. Oh my god! This is weird... Okay well then i don't have to watch Coming to you from Gitmo Nation Christmas in my salsa In Albuquerque New Mexico on our way back to Austin Tejas Back to Cam Mofo in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where wish you a happy drive home

2:40:44 And we're East Meets West. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here, on NO Agenda has merely exposed the UK as nothing but a puppet state of the US. And now they're willing to work at the behest of the US government, to silence the free press All Wikileaks has ever done was expose corruption, rorting war crimes forward etc. If you don't mind can we just concentrate on what might happen next? What do you think...what does he think might actually happen next You'll have to ask him what he thinks, but nobody knows what's going to happen next because obviously the British government is not willing to adhere not only to its own legal statutes regarding that the law for example European arrest warrant should have been knocked back because it was questioning. But it doesn't appear to have any respect for international law or declaration of human rights

2:41:43 So if nothing changes, basically he's stuck there in the London Embassy isn't he? Until perhaps Ecuador has a change of heart or maybe a change of government and that could end quite badly for him. Maybe the UK needs to change its government! Ecuador has done the right thing here. Ecuador is standing by its signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 17 which is by the way level of appeal possible. And this was a wrong statement that the UK government by Hague has binding obligation, that is absolute rubbish! The UK government is an executive arm it overrides the UK courts when Baldasar Ghosan tried to extradite Pinochet

2:42:32 a South American dictator with blood on his hands. The courts allowed the extradition, but the UK government overruled it to let him free! What does the UK government stand for these days? It certainly doesn't stand for justice or truth that's obvious to the whole world! I'm Leon Conservative and i am more american than the bounce pass this is the conservatives guide to understanding muslims here are the talking points Step 1, every Muslim is an Arab That's a fact dude We gotta stay on them Tattooed Sometimes they're disguised as black dudes Step 2 All terrorists are Muslim Yep Plain truth Let's kick em out And the gays too Y'all ain't American I'm Babe Ruth Step 3 Islam is violence If they acting all nice They lying The Quran is proper

2:43:32 can't explain that. That was a poor father's mission. Step five, don't trust them. Citizens arrest just cuff them If you're looking at your strange or you can say his name Guess what? Muslim! Step six they hate women Stone to death no forgiveness Can't talk can't do business Got him locked in the cage like pigeons Step seven there is a quote from the 32nd So we should probably listen

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